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+About this version
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+Restarted training from scratch, because apparently training on vanilla
+1.5 is actually better in terms of making models that don't overcook
+things or change the style very much. This new version is still in need
+of more training, so it's not quite as effective as the old one, but it
+does seem to, on average, improve things a bit, and it works across a
+lot more models and doesn't mess with style at all, so I think this is
+probably the right direction to go in. I'll play around with prompting a
+bit and update the main description with advice.
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+  This model is a LoCon. You MUST install the Lycoris extension for it
+  to load.
+
+I'm using Lora Block Weight <https://github.com/hako-mikan/sd-webui-
+lora-block-weight>. I believe you can also use Additional Networks
+<https://github.com/kohya-ss/sd-webui-additional-networks> and SD Webui
+Lycoris <https://github.com/KohakuBlueleaf/a1111-sd-webui-lycoris>.
+
+*UPDATE 4/27/2023:* I've hit a training plateau so I'm in the process of
+adding a bunch more images to the dataset, including some more
+complicated stuff like intertwined fingers. I'm probably going to have
+to drop the learning rate some more, so things may be slower from here
+on. I'll keep everyone posted as things progress.
+
+*UPDATE: Prompting advice for beta 2:*
+
+  *
+
+    This is a completely new train on top of vanilla Stable Diffusion
+    1.5. I did this based on the advice of a fellow enthusiast, and it's
+    surprising how much more compatible it is with different model. It
+    doesn't mess with the style of your model /at all/ as far as I can
+    tell, and it really only affects hands and occasionally arms,
+    leaving everything else untouched.
+
+  *
+
+    It seems to work best at a strength of 1, although turning up higher
+    than that (1.5, 2, etc) can help it on some images at the cost of
+    making it worse on others. No need to mess with your CFG scale, as
+    it doesn't cause things to overcook at these levels.
+
+  *
+
+    Freely mix it with other LoRAs.
+
+  *
+
+    I've had best results putting "nice hands, perfect hands" in the
+    positive prompt (increasing the weight makes things worse), and
+    "(extra fingers, deformed hands, polydactyl:1.5)" in the negative
+    prompt. This is on EnvyMix v1 (and probably RevAnimated), but YMMV
+    for other models.
+
+  *
+
+    "Bad hands" negative embeddings appear to make it worse, although I
+    haven't tested this extensively.
+
+  *
+
+    As usual, this won't work miracles, but I do find that over a large
+    number of images, it does make things generally better on average.
+    Hopefully this will continue to improve with a few more nights of
+    training.
+
+*Prompting advice for alpha 3 and beta 1:*
+
+  *
+
+    Note that this advice is for RevAnimated 1.2. YMMV with other models.
+
+  *
+
+    It overcooks things a bit, but you need the strength set to 1.0 for
+    it to really work well. You can work around this by reducing the CFG
+    value to 5 or 6 or so. I've had good luck with enabling the dynamic
+    thresholding extension and setting it to /mimic/ CFG 5, and then I
+    can set my CFG value to 9 or 10 and things come out fine.
+
+  *
+
+    I tried using it with another LoRA and got some pretty strange
+    results, so YMMV there as well. Right now I'm just trying to get it
+    to work consistently in a simple use case.
+
+  *
+
+    Oddly, I think it's regressed a bit on hands in neutral positions,
+    but it's noticeably better at more complicated interactions, such as
+    holding objects (which is why I have so many pictures of blacksmiths
+    and librarians in the example images).
+
+  *
+
+    Keep your prompts simple and it tends to do better.
+
+  *
+
+    With RevAnimated, I tend to get 1 or 2 usable images out of every 8,
+    with a bunch of other ones that are pretty close and can probably be
+    fixed with inpainting.
+
+*Prompting advice for alpha 2:*
+
+  *
+
+    It's getting stronger now, and it works best around strength 1.
+    Setting it to 1.3 like the previous version will make things look bad.
+
+  *
+
+    My negative prompt is still "(extra fingers, deformed hands:1.15),
+    (worst quality, low quality, poor quality, bad quality:1.35)"
+
+  *
+
+    I had good luck just putting "nice hands" in the main prompt.
+
+*Prompting advice For alpha 1:*
+
+  *
+
+    Your prompt should contain these words: "beautiful hands, perfect
+    hands, fingernails". I've had the best luck with them towards the
+    middle, and at no emphasis.
+
+  *
+
+    The alpha1 LoCon seems to work best at a strength of around 1.3 (on
+    RevAnimated 1.1, where I'm testing it right now -- YMMV for other
+    models)
+
+  *
+
+    Don't use negative embeddings for improving hands. When I removed
+    badhandv4 from my negative prompt, things improved noticeably. You
+    may want to try without any negative embeddings at all. I haven't
+    used them for a while now.
+
+  *
+
+    My negative prompt is: "(extra fingers, deformed hands:1.15), (worst
+    quality, low quality, poor quality, bad quality:1.35)", which I
+    arrived at through a lot of experimentation adjusting strengths and
+    terms one at a time. It should work decently well.
+
+  *
+
+    This all gives me hope that there's a real shot at solving hands on
+    SD 1.5. Even with good prompting, I'm generally not getting perfect
+    results, but things are close. I'll consider this done when it
+    creates well-formed hands without having to add anything to the
+    positive or negative prompt.
+
+/Now back to your regularly scheduled readme.../
+
+I'm testing the theory that maybe the reason MidJourney's hands are so
+much better now is that they just took the time to specifically train a
+network on a high quality set of pictures of hands, and literally nobody
+else has actually tried. This LoRA definitely isn't at MidJourney levels
+yet, but I've been training it over night for several nights now and
+adding to the dataset where it appears deficient, and quality seems to
+be steadily improving. As such, I'm going to post this now so people can
+start using it. Consider this an early alpha -- I'll only stop updating
+once it stops getting better.
+
+*Example images are cherry-picked. *Please don't expect this model to
+make all of your hand generations better. It may even make some of them
+worse, so you should evaluate its usefulness on a large number of images
+and not just one. If it works for you like it does for me, the a lot of
+your results should be the same or better quality (some will just be bad
+in different ways).
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+Is there a license for this LYcoris?
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+I would like to know about commercial use, etc.
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+My guess is that this doesn't work and is just an optical illusion
+caused by the 'perfect hands' and some negative prompts. I don't see a
+difference when I remove Lora (the lycoris), so we need more clear
+evidence that it works.
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+Idk why, but it changes style to incredibly cartoony for me, for some
+reason. It's almost ms paint quality, lol. Yes, it fixes hands, but in
+this state, it's unusable for me.
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+Hi, I would like to know how to install this LYCORIS?
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+is this a positive or negative prompt locon
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+the change is a little bit subtle. I'll have to play with it a bit more
+to be sure. still, i'm hoping for some positive changes.
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