| Newsgroups: rec.arts.int-fiction | |
| From: librik@netcom.com (David Librik) | |
| Subject: The Origin of ADVENTURE | |
| Date: Sun, 23 Oct 1994 22:33:25 GMT | |
| The following article was posted on alt.folkore.computers, but I think its | |
| historical significance warrants its re-posting here. This is how and why | |
| Will Crowther invented Adventure. (One thing not mentioned in here is that | |
| Will was a caver who did a good deal of exploration in the Flint Ridge - | |
| Mammoth Cave System, where there really is a Colossal Cave containing a | |
| Bedquilt area.) To find out what Don Woods, Stanford AI hacker, did with | |
| Will's game, read Steven Levy's book HACKERS. | |
| (The original discussion concerned the origin of the magic word XYZZY.) | |
| - David Librik | |
| librik@cs.Berkeley.edu | |
| Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers | |
| From: bernie@fantasyfarm.com (Bernie Cosell) | |
| Subject: Re: XYZZY Origins | |
| Sender: cosell@world.std.com (Bernie Cosell) | |
| Organization: Fantasy Farm, Pearisburg, VA | |
| Date: Sun, 23 Oct 1994 01:21:12 GMT | |
| In article <37tu1o$kdf@hpuerci.atl.hp.com>, Sandy Morton writes: | |
| } In article <+A3Bv*zh0@fantasyfarm.com>, bernie@fantasyfarm.com (Bernie | |
| Cosell) writes: | |
| } |> Depends on what you mean by 'adventure'. Will Crowther says he | |
| } |> made up the term out of whole cloth when he was putting ADVENT | |
| } |> together. Advent was the original program of this genre from which | |
| } |> all the others have descended in one way or another. | |
| } | |
| } This is the adventure to which I refer. So, how do you know this? And, | |
| } have you any idea what he meant by "out of whole cloth"? More, please. | |
| Well, Will Crowther made the game up after we had been playing D&D | |
| for a few months. A new arrival on the ARPANET project was also a | |
| housemaster at Harvard at the time and D&D had pretty much just | |
| appeared. He dungeounmastered up a dungeon and a bunch of us from | |
| the project team got sucked into playing. | |
| Due to our inclinations, we were almost zero interested in the 'battle and | |
| monster' aspect of the game, but rather a lot more interested in the | |
| cooperation/innovation/puzzlesolving aspect. And so quite against the | |
| tide of the D&D world at the time, our dungeon turned into more of | |
| a group problem-solving expedition than an every man for himself | |
| hack-em-up. Anyhow, it was great fun but VERY difficult for folk | |
| who had any sort of a life: getting the eight of us together at the | |
| same time and in the same place with nothing else to do for four | |
| hours or so was a nontrivial problem. | |
| So Will had the astounding idea that he could cobble up a | |
| computer-mediated version of the game. We mostly thought he was | |
| nuts [but had long-since learned not to underestimate what Will | |
| could innovate]. Given our predilections in the real game, in | |
| ADVENT puzzles and cleverness were more of a premium than quick | |
| reflexes and keeping track of hit-points. | |
| I can't recall why he decided to do it in FORTRAN. I'm not | |
| convinced that portability was a big concern of his, but FORTRAN | |
| was actually a fairly reasonable higher-level-language choice among | |
| those available on TENEX [I mean, what did you have? BCPL, | |
| BBN-Lisp and FORTRAN; I'll note in passing that when I did the | |
| Eliza-clone called "doctor" back in '66, I made a different | |
| decision: I decided on BBN-Lisp]. | |
| As for 'out of whole cloth', I meant just what the idiom means: he | |
| devised this little pseudo-puzzle and needed a magic word to make it | |
| happen, and he just made one up. It has no antecedent nor is it an | |
| acronym or anything like that. | |
| /bernie\ | |
| -- | |
| Bernie Cosell bernie@fantasyfarm.com | |
| Fantasy Farm Fibers, Pearisburg, VA (703) 921-2358 | |
| --->>> Too many people; too few sheep <<<--- | |
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