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Finally, even though it took 10 years, cost the lives of 58,000 young Americans and inflicted humiliating defeat on a nation that had never before lost a war. Some of us learned that Klauswitz had it right 150 years earlier when he wrote these words.
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Or rather, no one in his senses ought to do so without first being clear in his mind what he intends to achieve by that war and how he intends to conduct it.
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But how often do we see people going through their lives without knowing what
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People go through their lives without knowing what it is they want to do, what they want to accomplish.
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Maybe help themselves win that war and maybe support the podcast if they want to.
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Well again, it's so shocking because what you're saying is absolutely true. You wouldn't think that people would be going through life without knowing where they're trying to get to.
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But you wouldn't think that a nation would go to war without clear intention of where they want to end up and how they're going to get there. At least an idea of how you're going to get there. Now I have a little bit of, like when Klaus Fitts says,
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Because you're going to make adaptations, things are going to come up, things are going to change, the battlefield changes, your life changes, things pop up, I mean things happen. So I think that, that idea that you're going to know how you're going to execute something is, is far-fetched.
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Actually, I should use the word idea. You should have an idea of how you're gonna do it. You should have an idea like, okay, well, this is what I need to get done. This is what I want to achieve in my life. I wanna make, I wanna do this.
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I wanna own a house. That's a simple one. That's a good place to start. I wanna own a house. Okay, well, let's think about how we're gonna get there.
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You know, let's think about how we're gonna get there. You have to build your credit, you have to, how do you build your credit?
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You have to borrow money. Some people, some people they go to buy a house, they've never borrowed money before. You can't-
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Borrow money if you've never borrowed money. You can't borrow money for a house if you've never borrowed money for a car or a, or a, or some smaller object before. So you gotta establish your credit, then you gotta have two years worth of income, then you gotta have a big fat down payment sitting ready. So there's thi...
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Boom, you go make that happen. Hey, guess what, you wanna buy a house one day? Save money, have good credit.
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Okay, well you gotta make money. How you gonna make money? You might make it drive an Uber. You might make it deliverin' pizza. You might make, cause you got your real job with that support and your family, but then you need a little extra to throw in there. Well that's why you end up drivin' Uber. You end up with wha...
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Okay, let's say you're gonna, you're gonna say you're gonna be financially secure and independent. Okay. That would be a much bigger goal, right? That's an awesome goal to have. And the younger you make that goal, the better chance you have of achieving it. Yeah. Cause now you're not wasting your money. You're actuall...
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Yes, you have small goals that lead to the big goal, right? So, for instance, you want to be financially secure and stable, what are you going to do? You're going to save some of your money. Okay, that's one thing. You're going to buy a house, that's another thing. You're going to pay off your car and you're not going...
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You have your broad goal, yes. You have your long term goal, yes. And then you got your short term goals that lead and are strategically aligned with that long term goal. It's the same thing in war. You have to have those, both those things going on.
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I never said like, I want to be a black belt. I never even fought that.
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My goal was like even finances. I wasn't like, hey, I want to make X amount of money. I was like, I want to be able to do whatever I want to do.
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That might not even have a financial value, like there's some people that do whatever they want to do, but they have a very low income, but they've set themselves up in such a way that they're allowed to do what they pretty much want to do. Check. Alright. Are you done? Last word?
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Oh, you mean they have a plain black victory MMA t-shirt? No, we have- Oh, okay. Cause that's my level of fashion.
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If you're doing- Did you say that origin stuff is made here in America? No big deal. Yeah. To you, it's no big deal. It's made in America.
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No, one of my buddies just, uh, he's, he was on deployment and had an origin key.
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I've never worn my gi outside of a jujitsu academy.
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You know what, little kids do it. My daughter, she throws the gi on. She's no problem with that. She walks around the supermarket. No, she's working on the supermarket. She's ready. Representing. She'll gi choke somebody. Ezekiel.
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It's a great title when you see, like, my wife will, will do something that there'll be like young seals at.
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You know, and that's what you always think. You always think that these kids are so young and then I was one of those kids.
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And yeaah, they are young. And that's who fights wars. Young kids.
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It doesn't, it doesn't. In some ways. It doesn't, it doesn't, because you're also institutionalized.
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Like, when you're in the mil- that's what hurts some guys when they get out of the military, they're like, wait a second, I don't- wait, where's my paycheck? It's supposed to come every two weeks, now it's not there anymore. They just get used to it. Oh, you have a mission, here's what you're gonna do. And that- when ...
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You don't have this direction anymore. Yeaah.
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What? How far away? 25 years? Or how, how long was it until he was 25? Like he would understand 10 years. He has no, he would not be able to like.
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Yeah, I did. Jocko White Tea. Guaranteed to get your deadlift to 8,000 pounds. Boom. That's it. Done. Next. Books. There's three books you can get.
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Way the warrior kid, gets kids on the path, boom, done.
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That's, new version just came out, has a little Q&A from you all, from the podcast, that's in there. So you can get that.
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It's available everywhere. There's no better gift than discipline. The audio version of that, which people ask me about a lot, is not on audible.com. It is on
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It's, it's an album with tracks, actually. You can get it from iTunes, Amazon Music, Google Play, other MP3 platforms for leadership. Also, beyond the podcast, beyond the books, we have a leadership consulting company. It's me, Leif Babin, JP Donnell, Dave Burke. You can email info at echelonfront.com if you want to b...
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A speaker? Don't call a speaker's bureau or a speaker's agent. Don't. Just go to echelonfront.com, fill out the form, and one of us will come talk to you and your company. On top of that, we got something called the muster, also known as the muster. We're doing two of them this year only.
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Why? We don't have enough room in the schedule to do three again.
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Washington DC, May 17th and 18th, San Francisco, California, October 17th and 18th. Come and get it. ExtremeOwnership.com, that's where you register. There's some video stuff about it.
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Yeah, that's that. Also, if you want to ask us more questions, or you have answers to questions or points to make outside of the podcast, and you wanna get in touch with us, you can do it on the interwebs. Twitter, Instagram.
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That is where you can find us. Echo is at Echo Charles and I am at Jocko Willink. And to those people out there, the soldiers, sailors, airmen, and marines around the world right now, standing watch.
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Thank you for protecting our nation and our freedoms and the police and law enforcement. Thanks for watching our backs here at home and protecting us from evil in our own backyard.
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And the paramedics that keep us alive. First responders, thanks to all of you for what you do and to everyone out there. Make sure you have a plan.
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Make sure you have a goal. Make sure you have intent. Make sure you have a mission.
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And when you say as hard as it is to do that, that's because when, you know, oh, your friend is wounded. Yes. You kind of, the automatic thing is to go get him real quick. That's exactly right.
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Yeah, and I don't know how much this, he talks about this, but the, he says because of hardship, like what? Just, just starving. Marching. Marching and starving.
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This one time on Seinfeld, where George- Do you really want to go there right now? In a way, because it, it sounds dumb, but this, that, just what you said right there though, this, cause this seemed what, like, this seems like what Napoleon was like.
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So George, this real, real kinda, this guy. A fire breaks out, and he...
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Pushes over an old lady, some kids, you know, to escape. To escape the fire.
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I had to lead these people to safety and if, you know, all is lost if the leader dies kind of thing. That's what he was saying. Everyone's looking at him. They're shaking their heads. Yea, like bro, we saw what you did. You know, you stepped on the old lady going out kind of thing. So it kind of, it's kind of that dea...
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Interesting how he, they kept mentioning the lice, you know. Yeaah. That's good when they do that, cause it really does give you a feel of like, you know.
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It's a little thing. It seems like no big deal. Yeaah. But it's constantly there. Boom boom. Or the hunger. Or the cold. When it's just constantly there. Cause you don't really think of that. You know? You think of the firefight. And the bombs. And the, you know, those big things. But all those little things adding up...
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Like Travis Mills, remember he was talking about how uhm, the salt stuff on your back or whatever, the salt crystals forming on your back. No one told me about that and I heard, you know, a lot of my friends have been to come, no one talked about that kind of stuff, you know.
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Yeah. Yeah. I had that too when I moved here from Kauai. I had that where we were all tough. Cause yeah, you go barefoot, you wear slippers all the time, you go barefoot everywhere.
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Right, but you don't take them off all the time. No. So, here's to give you an idea of how common being barefoot is. On, in elementary school, I went to school with no shoes on before, and no one said anything. And if you go to school with shoes on, you take them off immediately, cause you go run around and recess and...
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Yeah, no need to buy all day. Yeah, don't need those things. Why you doing those things?
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Yeah, that's why his feet are tough. Yeah. Indian feet. And then now, you know, you come to the mainland where you wear shoes all the time. And we don't wear shoes in the house. You know why? That's a thing. And so still, you know, but if you have like a carpet or something like that, your feet get soft. Yeah.
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Yeah, one second you're eating bread and butter and wine. What was it, Brandy? Both. Brandy, wine, cheese. And then the next minute you're killing your friend for his clothes. Yeah. Cause you gotta live.
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Oh, back to that, what you were just saying, the, uh, uh, you know, how you form into little gangs. Yeah. In times of...
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See, I kinda, I'm gonna say it anyway. No, there's this movie, it's called The Divide. I think it's called The Divide, I'm pretty sure. It's like this weird movie.
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And some apocalyptic thing happens in the beginning and everyone like, retreat in this apartment building retreats to the basement where the superintendent or somebody lives. And this guy is, uh, uh,
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But that's what the, that's essentially what the movie is about right there. Where everyone's just, we're all just people, right? We all live in this building. We're all kinda, and then...
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They start to just divide into teams and groups and they fight and the harder stuff gets, the more violent it gets. So they end up like killing each other in all these ways, like certain people have certain assets so they can offer like value to this group, you know, kind of thing and it's all within like this.
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The dominant evil group is, uh, is these just two friend guys. The person who lives is just the one girl.
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Yeah, everyone else dies in one way or another, yeah. It's a weird movie. Spoiler alert. But yeah, it's weird because you don't know, like, who caused the bomb, you know, and all that. Well, there's a great book about that.
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The great book. But yeaah. But yeaah, that's, the movie essentially, they just kinda omit all these details, like that doesn't make sense, that's why the movie's weird, but when you think about it, that's what the movie's about.
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Cool. Well, support? I'll try my best here.
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To not do a crappy job. So, origin, talk about origin.
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OriginMain.com, that's where you can go for all the cool Origin stuff. Supplier of! Yes, Jocko has supplements. Jocko supplements. Krill Oil, Joint Warfare. Too very good. Essential, I would say essential.
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He's telling me and I was laughing and I think he thought, he might have thought I was like laughing at him like, oh, you're getting all kind of thing, but I was laughing at that. I was laughing at just the idea of injuring your back really bad by laying in bed, opening a window.
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You'll be joyous again. Yeah, yeah. You'll be joyous again. I appreciate that too. You know, like when you're out and you're like...
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Yeah, so that's a good one. Get that for your joints, uh, also.
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The one I saw was like, kinda expensive. So I was like, yea Origin's cool if you want the high end one and stuff like that and it was cool. But, Origin has all levels.
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I bought one for 99 dollars, and...
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And they have different kinds of leaves or whatever, but they have the, and really the point there is when people ask me and if you're wondering what gee to get, go on, go on the website and you can see whichever, you know, like if you, if you're like, Hey, I want the Cadillac one, which I recommend by the way, cause ...
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But yea, some good rash guards, and they fit good too. So, and again, I'm not gonna say the brand name, but this is a very good, kinda high-end combat sports brand. Rash guards, geese, I'm not gonna say the name cause it doesn't matter cause it's a matter of opinion anyway, so I don't wanna influence that way. But, I ...
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And I was like, cool, they look dope. And I'm like, cool. But you put it on and it's...
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I agree with that, but it was weird because it was baggy in certain areas, you know? That is weird. I don't know. Either way, OrdinMain.com. It's some cool stuff. Also,
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Well, then again, I don't know. Think about this. What if it was all made in America? It was, you know, then legit from, from the cotton grown all the way to the end product. But when you get it, the rash guard fits all baggy in certain areas. I don't know, kind of defeats the purpose, really.
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It's kinda like, you know, I don't know if you ever had a friend or something, or maybe yourself, you start like a clothing brand, right? I remember back when I first started YouTube, like everyone, that was kinda like the thing, start a clothing brand.
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Clothing brand, yeaah, that was kind of like the joke, you know? And, so,
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Uh, a lot of people they'd, not a lot, I don't wanna say a lot of people, but some people they'd hear, you know, then that's kind of the textbook process. You start your brand, you give away your stuff to key people, and you know, hopefully it kind of takes hold and takes off.
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Sometimes I'd get the shirt and the designs are cool for the time. They were cool, but then when you put on the shirt, it doesn't like fit correct or, you know, cause when they got the blanks, they just were like, hey, I gotta cut costs. Hey, it's a blank black shirt. You know, what's the difference kind of thing. But...
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Bruh, the design can be outstanding, but if no one's gonna wear it, then who cares? So, who knows?
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But it is a big deal. Made in America from the cotton all the way to the end product. That is a big deal. And that's on top of the fact that the product is perfection.
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Fitness. Being fit. Where are we talking about being fit?
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Yeaah. Yes, oh yes we were. Muscle ups in joint warfare, that's what I was thinking about. So, kettlebells, I'm in too. I think...
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This is just me. Cause I'm spoiled. But the kettlebells from Onnit. And, you know, there's like copycat brands. You know, they do that. I'm not saying with kettlebells specifically.
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Here's the thing, I don't know if there's, they're specifically copycat. Cause there's other ones, yea, for sure. There's like a skull one, and like this, this other one.
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Dumb Ami. Like it's dumb. Over 103? Yea, it's like 200 something pounds. Oh, that's big. Yea. Dang. Someone sent it to me on Twitter. Oh.
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You know the man, I buy it like, when uhm, you know, okay, so how I did it was, I got the, the chimp, right, it's like 35 pounds or something like that. So I get two of them. And that's when I started kettlebells. So they're like, start, start lighter, lighter, so. They didn't mean 35, dude.
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I have the luxury of getting like the good ones, you know? I'm all spoiled.
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So I'm over here, like I'm about to say everyone should have the design one cause it's like cooler and I don't know you get kind of, you know how like when you get like a new cool rash guard?
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Primal Bells, Zombie Bells, and Legend Bells. Those are the ones. Cool jump ropes on there too, by the way. And other fitness stuff. Interesting fitness stuff. And uhm, again, the Kettlebells, I recommend the Kettlebells, but like me, start light.
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So even that, I've seen it done, so I'm like, oh, I can do that, I'll just use it light, but I'm doing it wrong. I'm like flipping it, flipping it up where it lands on the back of my wrist and then it like pulls my shoulder back. So I'm like, how do they do this? I was like, oh, I just gotta use, but then I looked it ...
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Yeaah, you. Idiot. Straight up cattle fat. Yeaah. Right, that thing. Yeaah, I think you mean Dan. Just be careful, that's the point. Anyway. Onit.com slash Jocko. Check em out, those are cool ones. They have the regular ones too, but, I don't know man. Once you have the design one, you can't go back. My opinion.
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Not that I have any basis for comparison, because I've never had the normal ones, but I've seen them in other gyms, used them before, and it's not the same. My opinion. Also, if you want to get this book, The Diary of a Napoleonic Foot Soldier.
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Or writes, author, by the way. We have direct links to all these books per episode on our website, jocopodcast.com. This is the books, the book section, it's books from the episodes, I think that's what it's called. Anyway, go on there, click through there.
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