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{"turn_id": ["4325_0", "4325_1", "4325_2", "4325_3", "4325_4", "4325_5", "4325_6", "4325_7", "4325_8", "4325_9", "4325_10", "4325_11", "4325_12", "4325_13", "4325_14", "4325_15", "4325_16", "4325_17", "4325_18", "4325_19", "4325_20", "4325_21", "4325_22", "4325_23", "4325_24"], "speaker_role": ["Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1"], "utterance": ["What kind of experience do you, do you have, then with child care?", "I think, uh, I wonder if that worked.", "Does it say something?", "I think it usually does. You might try, uh, I do n't know, hold it down a little longer, and see if it, uh,", "Okay pause > > Well, Does it usually make a recording or s,", "Well, I do n't remember. It seemed like it did, but it might not. I guess I guess we can start. Uh, No, I do n't, I do n't have any kids. I, uh, my sister has a, she just had a baby, he's about five months old and she was worrying about going back to work and what she was going to do with him and the different, do you have kids?", "I have three. Yeah, I do Yes, uh, I do n't work, though, but I used to work and, when I had two children. I work off and on just temporarily and usually find friends to babysit, but I do n't envy anybody who's in that situation to find day care. But, does your sister live in a big community?", "Uh, yeah she lives, it's a, it's a fairly large community. She, uh, got real lucky, though. He had a boss who, uh, moved into a larger office and she's able to take her baby to work with her. And it's a small office that she works in and, uh, it's a, it's a legal firm, office, and it's just one lawyer and so she's the only one really that takes care of the office. There's no one else that works there. And so they have an extra room and everything for the baby, so it works out pretty good for her.", "How lucky I, I know a lot of people around here sometimes have, like, mothers or grandmothers that take care of their kids and, but, the community I'm in is not a real large one, so there are a lot of people who babysit in their homes that, you know, you either know them or know somebody who knows them to get to,", "Yeah, so it's fairly safe.", "Yeah, to get references and that, so, but, uh, I, I d, do n't feel comfortable about leaving my kids in a big day care center, but, simply because there's so many kids and so many", "Worried that they're not going to get enough attention?", "Yeah, and, uh, you know, colds and things like that get spread real easy and things, but, and they're expensive and, course, there's a lot of different types of day care available, too, you know, where they teach them academic things. Or they just watch them and let them play and things like that, but, take a long time to find the right place", "Yeah, and you, and you do n't always even know if it's, it's going to be the right place or not. Anything, I guess, could happen. Because after, I guess after he, you know, gets to a certain age she's going to have to take him to a day care.", "Uh huh, when he starts toddling around and stuff.", "When, when he's not, when she ca n't keep control of him and he starts crawling that's,", "Uh huh. It would be hard, I think it would be kind of stressful. It would be nice to have him around but, uh, seems like, you know, goll, what if he cried at the wrong time or the phone rang or, you know, at the wrong time", "I think she has problems with that, too.", "Uh huh. Well, when you have kids, will you work? Do you", "I do n't know that's something I've considered. Uh, I always kind of think it would be neat to be able to watch them and be there for them all the time. Is that what you do?", "Uh, yeah. Actually, I teach my kids at home, so I'm here all the time.", "Oh, so they do n't go to school. Is it like, uh, oh, what's that called, it's, uh, correspondence school, they do it Do you have to have any special training?", "Not, it depends on the state you live actually. Some laws absolutely prohibit it. Some states, uh, say that you have to be a certified teacher in order to do that. Our state does n't yet, say that and I'm not a certified teacher. I went to college, but I, you know, but my kids are only elementary grades, levels right now and so,", "So they have n't been to public schools at all.", "One of them was for a couple of years and so, you know, my oldest, he was, and then my youngest two have never been. So anyway, but we do n't,"]}
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{"turn_id": ["4330_0", "4330_1", "4330_2", "4330_3", "4330_4", "4330_5"], "speaker_role": ["Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2"], "utterance": ["Well, uh, does the company you work for test for drugs?", "Actually, uh, they just recently started a policy of testing drugs, which was kind of interesting, because w, when I went to work for them, uh, they did n't do that, but, uh, since then they've, they've started a drug testing policy, not because of their own, uh, convictions, but because the clients of our company are requests that we do that. How about you?", "Uh, no, we're not being tested for drugs at all, uh, our policies and procedures manual, uh, the furthest it goes about drugs is in the, kind of the miscellaneous section, or it's reasons for immediate dismissal, it says, use of narcotics on company premises. So that's pretty general, but, uh, I work for an environmental management firm and I'm an engineer there, but I do go on a lot of hazardous waste sites, but I do n't operate any machinery. Now, people for our company that do operate machinery like drill rigs and things like that are under a, a medical monitoring program, because they're at a higher risk of exposure and blood screening is part of that and I, I think that drugs, they do test for drugs in that capacity, but it's not their exclusive, it's just part, it's just something that turns up in the other parameters that they test for. But I think it's got a little more relevance since they are around dangerous equipment and things like that and do have to exercise some quick judgment in the field. What is the nature of your company's business?", "Well, it's actually, uh, we do oil well services. So, a lot of our clients are oil companies, big oil companies, and they go out to, we have engineers who, uh, go out to the oil well, to the, to the client's oil well, and, and work with a lot of heavy equipment and put tools down the oil well and stuff, so the clients are very concerned that, you know, the engineers who go out there are adhering to their drug policy, because they're on their, their, you know, territory and everything, but the thing that's interesting is that I w, I'm an engineer and, a software engineer and I work in the software, uh, house, and everybody there, you know, are all software engineers. They've never, you know, they never go out to the, the oil rigs or anything, and yet, we're getting, we're subjected to this policy, you know, the same one that, uh, th, all the engineers have to, to, well, a little different, actually, but, uh, you know, we have to go through the same thing, and it's, but it's, uh, it's a little different, I guess than than a lot of drug policies. In our case, it's like, when you hire on, they'll test you, and then if you get injured on the job, if you like trip and fall or something, uh, they give you a drug test right away. Other than that they do n't have random testing or anything like that, but, a lot of people were really upset with the policy at first. Particularly, like uh, we have a lot of parties and stuff where they serve alcohol, and tha, they did n't find any problem with that, you know, but,", "We, that's been an, a, an issue, uh, in our company even though we do n't have the random or even regular drug screening. ( ( In fact ) ), they'll have these little parties, and people will just get, I mean, I've, my brother lives where I work, and I have many a time called him to come get me, you know. And, uh, uh, but, y, you know, they do n't think twice about serving beer by the keg. You know, but, uh, I think drug testing, and I, I do n't know, I guess I k, I think it's got some relevance, but I think its relevance is pretty limited. I mean, I think, you know, in your case, I do n't think that you should necessarily be subjected to drug testing. I think that's an interesting policy your company has about testing immediately after an on the job accident.", "Yeah, it's really, it's really bizarre. Uh, particularly, like where we are, you know. I, I, there was a story of a woman last year who, who actually did slip on the ice and, and like sprained her ankle and she, she was a personnel secretary and she had to get tested and, I do n't know I'm ambivalent about the whole thing. I, you know, I have a lot of mixed feelings about on the one hand, it's like if, you know, they're, they should be able to make it as a continue of employment in some sense and, you know, it's like you're, I mean, employments are contractual by nature anyway but, uh, I had an experience when I was interviewing for a job that, where I had to, uh, uh, do a drug test and, and it's, it was kind of a long story, but it was, it was just an incredibly humiliating experience what I went through, and it amounted to, uh, going in, uh, before any of these interviews, I'm not even working for this company, I'm going in for, like, interviews and they flew me out to Chicago and, and, uh, before I went into any of the interviews, uh, they took me to the doctor to give me a physical. They said it was going to be a physical, you know, and, uh, actually bec, beforehand they told me they were going to, uh, do drug screening, but I had forgotten about that, and so, basically, I'd already peed off ( ( in ) ) that morning and, and when I got in there, I did n't, I was n't, like, able to give a full sample, and so they made me sit and wait for forty five minutes, drink a whole ton of water"]}
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{"turn_id": ["4103_0", "4103_1", "4103_2", "4103_3", "4103_4", "4103_5", "4103_6", "4103_7", "4103_8", "4103_9", "4103_10", "4103_11", "4103_12", "4103_13", "4103_14", "4103_15", "4103_16", "4103_17", "4103_18"], "speaker_role": ["Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1"], "utterance": ["Uh, the question was kind of interesting to me because I was just trying to put together a, uh, long term financial plan and monthly budget. The only thing I do now is, uh, put the data into Quicken. I do n't know if you are familiar with that.", "Yeah, I have some friends of mine who use Quicken and, uh, I've considered using it once myself, but I decided that the amount of information that would have to go in would be a lot of time keeping that up to date. So I, I kind of gave up on the idea of using Quicken, at least for now.", "Um. I've found it's the only reliable way to keep a check book balanced actually because what will happen is my wife will write a few checks and then, well, uh, uh, not bother to total it and then it comes in to doing all the arithmetic. So it really helps with that.", "Yeah, well, it's similar problems but, uh, we just have the one check book and we try to keep it up to date as much as possible and occasionally we will get behind like you say but, uh, it does n't really seem to be too, too tight if we just remember to keep everything up, up to date and balanced. Well, how to you handle that, the long range or medium range planning on finances?", "Well, actually we have n't had to. Uh, until just recently. I guess we've got a, a daughter who is eighteen months and another one on the way so we needed to start doing more of that just for, uh, you know, saving for college and things like that. We tried a way, try to put away two and four thousand a year just for that.", "Yeah. Well that's pretty good if you can do that. I know. I have a daughter who's ten and we have n't really put much away for her college up to this point but, uh, we're to the point now where our financial income is enough that we can consider putting some away for college, so we are going to be starting a regular payroll deduction in the fall and then the money that I will be making this summer we'll be putting away for the college fund.", "Um. Sounds good. Yeah, I guess we're, we're just at the point, uh, my wife worked until we had a family and then, you know, now we're just going on the one income so it's a lot more interesting trying to, uh, find some extra payroll deductions is probably the only way we will be able to, uh, do it. You know, kind of enforce the savings. But, uh, it will be interesting to see ( ( ) ).", "Well our situation is just a little bit, kind of the opposite of that cause my wife was not working for some time and was going to school and just recently, uh, took on a full time job, well almost full time. So, it's only recently that we've had the money where we could start putting away large sums of it for, uh, long range goals like college and sickness and travel and that kind of thing.", "That sounds good. But, uh, uh, I was just curious, what, uh, part of the country.", "How about you?", "Uh, Cincinnati, actually. I was kind of wondering if they would be collecting people with, uh, the western accents or something like that. I do n't know how many people are, uh, getting involved in this but uh, well that's interesting. I'm, uh, uh, actually, uh, I was kind of interested if you found out about the study by, uh, reading TELECOM DIGEST or was there another?", "Uh, a colleague of mine at, uh, work got some information over, uh, the computer network called INTERNET.", "Oh, okay. Yeah, that is how I got it as well but, uh,", "And he just forwarded that on to me and, uh, it sounded like it would be an interesting project to participate in so I", "Yeah, it will be interesting to see what,", "sent back ( ( ) ) mail.", "It would be interesting to see how the data base, ( ( ) ) so, well, I guess we're talking about the experiment. Uh, probably need to try to get back on the topic but, uh, it's hard to talk about finances without without getting to, uh, dollar figures I guess you know, we could talk about some of the long range goals and,", "Well what other long range goals do you have besides college?", "Uh, well I think, either my wife or I would like to pursue advanced degrees at some point uh, I guess we will have to factor that in if we are not working for employers that happen to fund that. It seems like every year my employer just gives back, you know, a little bit your tuition reimbursement."]}
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{"turn_id": ["4327_0", "4327_1", "4327_2", "4327_3", "4327_4", "4327_5", "4327_6", "4327_7", "4327_8", "4327_9", "4327_10", "4327_11", "4327_12", "4327_13", "4327_14", "4327_15", "4327_16", "4327_17"], "speaker_role": ["Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2"], "utterance": ["Right, uh, actually I lived over in Europe for a couple of years, I lived in Germany and in Germany they do n't have the jury system. What they do is they have, uh, three judges, basically. And you get up there and the prosecuting attorney presents his evidence and your defense attorney presents their evidence and those three guys take the evidence, go off, figure it out and then come back and say whether you're guilty or not.", "Ou, ou, our judicial system is in such total chaos. I think what they need to do is, they need to somehow take the money out of it. I mean, when you have a man that's signed a, a, a statement saying he's guilty, we have a, a family called All day family. They were all murdered. All the people signed confessions, they went to a trial by jury. They been trying these people now for twenty two years, ever since I was a child. And what they've done is they've bought Mercedes after Mercedes after Mercedes is what they've done, has nothing to do with justice whatsoever.", "Well, you know, it's, it's one of those things, I mean, uh, uh, I would have to look at it. I, if they did it with the, uh, just the judges, the police have to do a lot better job of making sure that their evidence is airtight because the judges sitting in that kind of stuff day after day, they know all the procedures, they know what's good and what is n't, they'd be able to say, I'm sorry, you ca n't use this as, uh, evidence, you know, because it was either illegally obtained or whatever and, you know, you would n't have this, uh, uh, theatrics where the lawyer jumps up and presents it to the, to the jury and then the judge says, oh, no, d, disregard that. Come on, any jury's not going to disregard the evidence, you know", "Uh, that's true. I, I, I think our judicial system is attorney welfare myself.", "That may very well be.", "I, I hold it in the utmost contempt. The, uh, d, my favorite is the police department, they're not aimed at the criminal. The judicial system is aimed at the citizens because you and I, we have work schedules, we can be called at work, we have Social Security numbers, they can trace us down, we have telephones, then we have checkbooks. Criminals have none of these things. They're real difficult to catch, and if they do catch them, they do n't get any monetary gain out of it, whereas us, we write a check. So where do you think they target their efforts?", "That's true. ( ( You d ) ),", "They target their efforts toward the citizens not the criminals.", "How would you go about changing it?", "You know, that's a, I've nailed the problem down but I,", "Leave the details up to somebody else, huh.", "Yeah, I'm going to have to leave those details like, what would you do about, I think, to begin with, you would h, you would have, like, here in Atlanta area, our crime rate is just astronomical, yet, you go out on the streets and they're giving speeding tickets. I think somehow you have to separate the revenues from,", "Well, you know, uh, talking about the lawyers, you know what might very well do, uh, cause a, uh, a drop in the number of lawyers and things like that, is to set the fees for cases. It's kind of like do it, do it in the similar vein similar, like, uh, V C R or television repair. If you take your T V in, a lot of these T V repair places will say, well, I'll repair your T V for a hundred dollars, and if he gets in there and starts rooting around and finds something in there that's really tremendously wrong with it, then he eats it. He, he repairs it, gives it back to you, and takes your hundred dollars. Now, if he comes in and says, you know, I'll repair your, your V C R, or somebody else's V C R, for a hundred dollars, gets in there, maybe it's a blown fuse, takes him two minutes, he fixes it, he still charges you that hundred dollars. So, maybe if we did that with the lawyers, so that, you know, whether it's a murder case or a, you know, a civil, uh, somebody suing somebody else, you get X dollars for that case and that's it. None of this,", "I firmly believe in that because when you get the most heinous of crimes, have you ever noticed you always get the most renowned defense attorney? And here's this bum that did n't have a job and he's got a attorney that you and I could never afford. paying for that?", "Um, y, well, you, you know, you're talking to part of them that's paying for that", "Yeah, and you're talking to the other half that's paying for it", "That's right. You know that's, it, it's, it's amazing and, and when you stop and look at it, I mean, the judges, th, they're all former lawyers.", "Yeah, well, that's another problem. I think to really correct the judicial system, you have to get the lawyers out of it"]}
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{"turn_id": ["4646_0", "4646_1", "4646_2", "4646_3", "4646_4", "4646_5", "4646_6", "4646_7", "4646_8", "4646_9", "4646_10", "4646_11", "4646_12", "4646_13", "4646_14", "4646_15", "4646_16", "4646_17"], "speaker_role": ["Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2"], "utterance": ["Do you know anyone that, uh, is, is in a nursing home or has ever been in one?", "No. But I, my grandparents were looking into it before so I know what they've said.", "Well, I'm trying to think. My, uh, uh, wife's grandmother had Alzheimer's and they were going to put her into a, a nursing home and, uh, they, when they put her in, she had all kinds of trouble and the nursing home made them come and take her back because she was being a, a, you know, a, a nuisance. Or worse than a nuisance, I mean", " ( ( Oh ) ) they thought it was too much of a bother.", "she sort of went, you know, bananas and they could n't, could n't deal with her So, I guess you need to, uh, know whether it's a, you know, a no deposit, no return kind of thing whether", "Right. If they're equipped too, to handle the kind of patients you're going to have you know, put in there too. Because I know my grandparents wanted to have some independence still. They wanted some place they can go and have their meals and a nurse on staff just in case they needed her but they wanted to be independent as well. Have their own room.", "My grandmother actually was in a, a nursing home that, uh, there was a retirement hotel and then a, uh, there was some sort of full time care place that was also associated with it so for, uh, the first few years she had her own apartment and, you know, made her own meals sometimes. But could, could also go and eat someplace else. And then, uh, as she became less able to take care of herself, then she moved into this other part that was able to, uh, provide full time care and, uh, she did n't have to do anything anymore. But my experience has been that most people that move into nursing homes die very quickly. And that's som, I do n't know whether that's because they, you know, sort of give up hope once they get in there or what the, the reason is. But I think the average length of time that somebody lives in a nursing home is only like six months or something.", "Well a lot of it's probably to do with the fact that people go to it because they need help. They need health care so they're already ill before they go. That's probably a large factor.", " Yeah. If, if you can take care of yourself at all or have someone that can take care of you, then you stay where you are. Then you only go there as a last resort. Or people send you there as a last resort.", "Right, right. That's what my grandparents, it was just so that the rest of the relatives would have peace of mind knowing that if anything happened, there was somebody there for them. So that was their thinking. Somebody who would know what to do in the event of an emergency. And also so they could find someplace that they enjoyed while they still had choices to make. So they would n't be stuck going into just whatever nursing home was available at the time. I guess that's a problem too for people. Wait lists and all.", "Yeah, I guess.", " That, uh, you ca n't always get in when you want too and of course, you ca n't just sit around and wait.", "Right. When you need it, you need it", "And the money is also another issue. How you're going to pay for it. At that stage of life you only have so much money left and I guess it's not exactly fair for the younger family members to have to put it in their savings. I mean it is kind of fair, but it's also not fair because they have their own children to raise. So it's another problem.", "And you probably, if it were you, you probably would n't want someone choosing a place for you to live based on lowest price.", "Right, right. So, it, it's just so complicated anymore, I think People outlive their savings. And, with medicine being the way it is, you're extending life where sometimes the quality of living has gone down and they're not necessarily enjoying life anymore.", "Yeah. Well maybe that's the purpose of the nursing home is to have them go someplace where they can see that it's not worth continuing.", "It's just a shame that's the way it has to be. I think the retirement home idea's a nice idea. To go and find older people and with similar interests and someplace to stay and cause like if your spouse died, ( ( ) ) all alone, it'd be nice to go someplace with people similar to you. To have friends."]}
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Uh, sometimes it is, there is no alternative.", "Uh huh faint > >.", "Uh, you do not have, uh, uh, family available or family that's, uh, you may not even have family that is, uh, uh, in, you know, who are around.", "That's true. Yeah.", "So, sometimes it's not an alternative. And I think, uh, but I think also, sometimes it can be, uh, a benefit if it's for a short time. Sometimes in a nursing home uh, especially if, if it's after an acute illness. To get over a, or to rehab after, uh, an illness.", "That's true. I never thought of that. Yeah.", " Sometimes you know, sometimes the nursing homes are good for, uh, just short periods of time.", "That's true, until they get over that hump of whatever it is they're dealing with.", " Because too often the acute hospitals will, are sending them out much faster than what they're really able to.", "They really are. They do n't like to keep them longer than a week.", "so there is some good to it. Uh, sometimes too, it's used as a dumb job. You know the fam,", "What do you mean?", "well the families do not necessarily uh, know what to do with them and they do n't want to take the responsibility so they will put them in a nursing home.", "Yeah, that's true.", "So you see, uh, there's both sides to it too. What do you think?", " Yeah and it depends on how, how sick the person is too. What you're capable of, like if you have a family to take care of, you know, of your own Yeah, uh, I would personally like it if my parents were to get ill, I would like to take care of them at home and if I had the money with some help. That's not always possible. But, uh, to the best of my ability, I'd like to do it until it gets impossible", "I think that's also where you're going to have a lot of people who are going to, it's there's not a choice, it's because, it's not economically feasible even to", " Uh huh faint > >.", "put them in a nursing home. So that, that option sometimes is not available if they do not have the, uh, either Medicare or insurance to cover it.", "That's true. Yeah. But I think nursing homes can be good. It just depends on what kind they are. You know, you need to check them out ahead of time.", "Yeah, and then there's also some that are set up for specialties uh, I know some. Unfortunately, some elderly have to go to or have, I guess it's Alzheimer's or where they wonder or, or, uh, confused or have some mental problem", "Yeah, that they're", "And you need a special nursing home for that. You need one that has a unit that's locked where they are not able to get out and roam around and you need people who are trained for that type", "Who know what they're doing with that.", "Yeah so, so there's different types of nursing homes I think.", "Yeah well, my, uh, grandmother's not really in a nursing home, but a retirement home that also has a nursing home sort of attached to it. And she really liked the idea of, of moving there. She's not ill yet but, uh, she worked there as a volunteer for about ten years and then she decided that, uh, she's eighty five years old, that eventually, you know, she she does n't want her family taking care of her and being a burden. She's very independent. So she's in this nursing home. It's out in the country and, uh, she really enjoys it right now because she does n't have to wash dishes or cook", "Gives her a little bit of her own independence but she still has, uh, a security there.", "Right. Some support. And then there's also, uh, sort of a wing for those people that do get sick and, what I like about it and I think she likes about it is that she knows everybody there now and then, so if she ever does become ill, uh, it will be like family around her.", "That's right and I I've seen some of them like that too and also they have a lot of, uh, activities going on for the ones", " Uh huh faint > >.", "who are more active. So it's not sort of like, uh, uh", " Uh huh faint > >.", "a sick place.", "No, she loves it. She has a great social life and she travels and, uh, it's in, in the ( ( very ) ) in the mountains and it's beautiful and, uh, I, I hope that I have something like that when I get older faint > >.", " Yeah I, I think, I think the, uh", "Uh huh faint > >.", "I think that the decision that needs to be made though on nursing home has to be a joint one between the, uh, elderly uh, person who's going in and the family that's going to be, uh, effec, effected by it", "Oh definitely it's,", "and, uh, you know, sometimes it can, those choi, those choices can be made in advance and sometimes"]}
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{"turn_id": ["4171_0", "4171_1", "4171_2", "4171_3", "4171_4", "4171_5", "4171_6", "4171_7", "4171_8", "4171_9", "4171_10", "4171_11", "4171_12", "4171_13", "4171_14", "4171_15", "4171_16", "4171_17", "4171_18", "4171_19", "4171_20", "4171_21", "4171_22", "4171_23", "4171_24", "4171_25", "4171_26", "4171_27", "4171_28"], "speaker_role": ["Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1"], "utterance": ["So, uh, do you happen to be working for a large firm?", "Well, it's about three hundred and fifty people. I guess that's not large compared to some, but it's big enough. And they have a, they do n't have any kind of pension plan where they contribute anything and I wish they did. You know, they have a four O one K, but I put all the money into it. They do n't add anything. What about you?", "Uh, I work for a fairly large company. It's got eight thousand people. And, uh, we do have health insurance. We do n't have four O k, one K plan, stuff like that, but we do have, like, retirement. They kind of match up to, you, if you put six percent, they match up to six percent, and then the rest is whatever you want to put in. If you put more than that or something like that.", "Oh, that's a pretty good deal.", "It's not bad.", "Now, how long does it take for your contribution to vest?", "God, I do n't know. It's probably a long time I'm sure it's not till like twenty five years, thirty years.", "Yeah, the place I work at's, health insurance is kind of expensive. It's like hundred bucks a, a month or something for a family.", "Huh, well, I guess what we have is like a f, what they call a flex benefits plan where you, you get like a certain amount of dollars and then you spend it on a cafeteria of whatever you want or need. Otherwise you can, uh, guess you can put, also put money, hold money back and then either use or lose it and that does n't get taxed or can just have that money, you know, put in your paycheck.", "Yeah, we have one of those use it or lose it plans, too, where, uh, they'll basically pay for, uh, you know, child care type, uh, expenses. I can send in a, uh, can send in a request for payment and they'll, uh, and they'll send me, ( ( you know ) ) a check for the amount they withheld. That's pretty good, you know. It's, uh, it saves a third off on taxes or something.", "Yeah well, it depends on which company you work for. I know that, like, the, the, the one plan that everyone seems to be in, in my place is, uh, you know, you, uh, think you call it plan D another example like I guess it's alzheimer's > Deductibles are really high, it's like fifteen hundred dollars, but if you go for the other ones you're paying too much money for them because it's unlikely, if you're f, relatively, uh, healthy, then it's really unlikely that you'd use that much, amount of money, you know. So, the, it, ( ( you know ) ), someone did start a cost benefit analysis, and ends up the best is to take a high deductible and, and take a loss, what, whatever ( ( it ) ) happens to be, if you happen to be a healthy individual", "Yeah, I guess, uh, on the other hand, you know, I, I had a similar, had a similar health plan and, uh, one of my kids was in a car accident and, uh I had, wound up having to pay for, you know, a bunch of doctor visits and stuff out of my pocket because of, you know, no, no insurance policy happened to cover it, which is,", "Really? You mean, not even your, your, your car insurance?", "Well, it, it got all screwed up because I had a high deductible on the health insurance, no fault here, and, and I had a high deductible on the on the, uh, on the c, car insurance and then s, you know, we just goofed up the medical insurance and the car insurance and stuff and blew it", " Oh, that's too bad. Yeah uh, well, I do n't know, I think other than health insurance, I think, uh, you know, an extra week of, uh, time off would be nice. I only get two weeks.", "Yeah, yeah my place you get two weeks when you start and then every, every year they give you an extra day until you've got four weeks.", "Oh, that's nice. We do n't get them till, till your seventh year of service till you get an extra week.", "That's a long time.", "Yeah, it's, uh,", "Yeah, especially in the kind of engineering job I'm in, you know, companies do n't stay afloat that long and, and they,", " Uh, with the telecommunications type of company, supposedly you, used to be much more stable. It's a lot less stable than it used to be. They used to have job security ( ( crap ) ), but now they do n't.", "So you work for Bell or something like that?", "Yeah, it's the Bell Corps, which is, uh, So, I do n't know, it's, it's, uh, no longer So that's what, I think it's still based on the old model of, and, and now they do n't, uh,", "A lifelong job security telephone pioneers of America, all that stuff, huh.", "Yeah, but they, no, no longer I do n't think so. Uh, hearing a lo, there's always, they're always laying people off, which is another benefit that you can have other than salary is trade that off for security.", "Is it, I mean, does it, they must have pretty good severance, though, huh?", "Oh, I do n't know, we do n't, we have n't been doing layoffs. We've been doing, uh, down sizing with, uh, getting rid of extra layers of management. And, uh, I do n't know what they do for those people.", "Mean the, the, the management they get rid of?", "Some of it, yeah. There's too many manage, too many chiefs and not enough Indians but,"]}
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{"turn_id": ["4321_0", "4321_1", "4321_2", "4321_3", "4321_4", "4321_5", "4321_6", "4321_7", "4321_8", "4321_9", "4321_10", "4321_11", "4321_12", "4321_13", "4321_14"], "speaker_role": ["Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1"], "utterance": ["Well, have you ever served on a jury?", "No, I've not. I've been called, but I had to beg off from the duty. And you?", "Well, I was called and then I was not chosen.", "Um. Well, I was, I was, uh, originally chosen primarily, I think, because I was a young fellow and they tend to view the younger fellows as more likely to hand down a guilty verdict. I do n't know why. Something I picked up in a psychology class some time ago. Yeah, it's that the younger they are, they tend to be more conservative for some statistical oddball reason, and they kind of liked me. I looked conser, and all that stuff and they, I do n't know what they saw in me, but they saw it. But, uh, back to the issue, is, uh, I do n't know, at times I feel that a unanimous decision is warranted, especially in cases in which there's no smoking gun. But, there, too, there are also cases in which I feel a majority rule might be acceptable, particularly, I think in civil cases. In criminal cases, I'd like to see the unani, unanimity remain, but in civil cases, I think a majority rule by, by jury would be sufficient.", "Well, uh, could you give me an example of a case where you think that?", "Well, in a criminal case, say one in which, you know, there is, like, say assault or some such. I think there ought to be a unanimous, uh, vote because by law and by constitution there must be proven beyond a shadow of a reasonable doubt that the person in question did this. And in civil law there, you know, is such a thing as like, let's say, uh, misappropriations or misuse of financial instruments or something like that. A majority rule, I think, would be more in line as there is no real smoking gun in the civil cases. I do n't know if I'm making any sense or not.", "Well, I mean, I think, are you just trying to say that criminal cases are more, uh, tangible or,", "Yeah, often there's more incriminating evidence. Like, for instance, say, uh, and also, too, I think I'm, I'm tempering this and the fact that the consequences are much more, uh, serious in a criminal case.", "Well, do you think that, that in a civil case, if there was majority rule, that it would be easy for someone to be set up?", "Um, well, I really ca n't say for certain, truth be known. Uh, as it stands, there's, there's many ways and means by which a person can be set up, both, uh, in a ( ( civil ) ), uh, civil and criminal case. I mean, the, uh, documentary, the THIN BLUE LINE pretty much demonstrated that. You know, I do n't know for, if you're familiar with that or not.", "No, I'm not.", "A, uh, fellow when he was much younger, uh, was tried and convicted and sentenced to death. Fortunately, in his case, the death penalty was revoked and, uh, so he served out his, his sentence until it was discovered by a fellow who was making a documentary called the THIN BLUE LINE that this guy had basically gotten railroaded through the judicial system. The case was reopened and he was exonerated.", "Well, I mean, I think that there are many cases in our judicial system where justice is not served.", "Yeah, many laws, but little justice.", "Say, but, uh, and I also think, just like you were talking about before, why you were chosen to be on a jury that, uh, the, just, the process of picking jurors is not always objective."]}
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{"turn_id": ["4329_0", "4329_1", "4329_2", "4329_3", "4329_4", "4329_5", "4329_6", "4329_7", "4329_8", "4329_9", "4329_10", "4329_11", "4329_12", "4329_13", "4329_14", "4329_15", "4329_16", "4329_17", "4329_18", "4329_19", "4329_20", "4329_21", "4329_22", "4329_23", "4329_24", "4329_25", "4329_26", "4329_27", "4329_28"], "speaker_role": ["Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1"], "utterance": ["Okay, so I guess it starts recording now. Okay. I do n't know, really know that much about the recycling in this area that we're in. We live in the Saginaw area. Uh huh. And I'm not real familiar with, uh, anything that, I, fact as far as I know, the school does n't have any kind of programs or anything out here. And, uh, or the grocery store or anything in this area, yeah.", "The rec, we live in Plano and they started off recycling by, uh, putting the, I think at each Wal Mart, they had some recycling dumpsters and things like that, which now, I guess the, uh, city is, has bought the big green trash cans and, uh, we, they have a recycling truck that comes around now and you separate your glass and paper and, uh, aluminum and you set it out and they pick it up and it, it works real neat. They seem to be having a real good response.", "That is pretty good. I'm, we're originally from another state and I know in the state we were from that they did that t, similar type thing. The city brought ought, you know, set tr, separate trash cans and you separated your stuff and you put it in there and they took it, you know.", "Did they, did they, like on bottles, did they give you a so many cents back for", "I do n't really know.", "for cans ( ( even or ) ),", "I do n't really know, they, they started after we moved down here and so I, I'm not really familiar. I just know that, uh, my in laws up in, up in Oklahoma, that's how they do, you know, they pick it up, but I do n't know if they get a, get anything back on it or, do you get money for it?", "No, I just, I noticed it Iowa and other cities like that, it's a nickel per aluminum can. So you do n't see too many thrown out around the streets. Or even bottles. You know, all kinds of bottles they, they, they really charge people to, I guess when you purchase them and, and then when you turn them back in. I n, I remember the old days as a kid where bottle was a nickel.", "Right. And now, now most of them are throwaway.", "So, maybe that's one thing they can do.", "I think now they're a lot more expensive than that. Uh, I bought some Cokes the other day in the br, the little bottles you know, and I think the bottles were like, I know they were at least ten cents apiece. I ( ( started to see ) ), at home, I was like, God, how much were those bottles you know? like as verb of saying ! > And, it was, they come in like, uh, eight and, and eight and ten packs, you know instead of six packs and, uh, and they were like, it was like two dollars and something for the bottles. You know, I was like God Almighty, it costs more for the bottles than it did for the Cokes.", "That was my brother's first job in a grocery store. He was in the bottle area It's pretty dangerous out there, you know, when they fall over, but but it's, uh, it's quite, they say that the green glass now, that there's a big glut", "Of green glass.", "the green glass, yeah. It's amazing.", "Well, out in this area, they really do n't have anything. Now, I know that like Minyard's and places like that around like Arlington and Fort Worth and a lot of those grocery stores, they have like four different bins out front. Uh, different colors for different things and, and things like that, but I, I do know some of these places were doing that and they discontinued them because people were coming and dumping their trash in them.", "Yeah it's, I notice the plastic have sort of faded away, the milk jugs. It, it's, people just, they, they really do n't, uh, there's too much labor involved I guess to separate the stuff.", "Yeah, more than it's worth.", "It's, I do n't know, it, it can be, it's not as easy selecting, you know, clean junk as they say.", "Right. Well, who wants to clean their junk before they throw it away", "That's right, that's right. It's like washing the dishes before you put them in the dishwasher.", "Right, uh, yeah.", "We all do it Well, it was nice talking to you.", "It was nice talking to you. I have no idea how long this is supposed to last or anything.", "Oh, I think, I think two or three minutes is", "Is that it? Okay, well, it was nice talking to you and I, I guess I'll do this for, I was doing this for, actually, I was going to do it for my son so that he could, uh, he, he's in high school, so that he could make some money. Uh, but then it has my name on it, so I'm like, okay, I'll sit down here and call it", "Well, we're doing it for a church choir so,", "Oh, are you? Oh, that's interesting. That's nice. Well,", "Well, thank you.", "Thank you. Bye."]}
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{"turn_id": ["4356_0", "4356_1", "4356_2", "4356_3", "4356_4", "4356_5", "4356_6", "4356_7", "4356_8", "4356_9", "4356_10", "4356_11", "4356_12", "4356_13", "4356_14", "4356_15", "4356_16", "4356_17", "4356_18", "4356_19", "4356_20"], "speaker_role": ["Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1"], "utterance": ["So. Have you heard about Saturns?", "seems to be out of breath > > I've heard some about Saturns. I do n't know a lot about them. I have n't been over, uh, to a dealer to look at them although I did see something in tonight's paper that said that their, uh reliability is rated to be equal to that of the, I guess, the Japanese cars.", "Ooh, that's great. Actually that's kind of the type of car that I, I'm thinking about we might get. Saturns, you ca n't go to a dealer unless you go to a, a Saturn dealer. This, this offshoot of G M And, uh, supposedly, they've got great customer satisfaction from what things I've heard.", "Um. Yeah, I've heard a lot of people like them. Uh, yet I do n't know wh, whether I would buy Saturn or not at this point. I'm kind of, my card and, uh, desires tend to be pretty picky and so, uh.", "Well, like what?", "Well, let's see. I li, I like cars that are designed with, with human beings in mind, and that's not just the driver and the passenger but that's the person who's working on it, cause I do al, almost all my own maintenance and, uh those types of things. And I found that while you can find some cars that are comfortable to ride in, uh, finding a ca, car anymore that's, that's fairly easy for me to work on, it's just not very eas, it's not very, almost unlikely at this point.", "Yeah. I've got a sixty five Mustang and I, and I do the work on, most of the work on that myself. And when I look at modern cars and stuff like that, I just say I will never do that with the modern cars. It's not worth my time. You ca n't get in there. You ca n't do anything. And it's so complicated too. I look at it and I say, boy, you know, I, I'd have to almost go take a class or something like that.", "Well I've got an eighty three Saab. And I find that for a normal, you know, everyday things. It's really very easy to work on and so, uh, you know, I'm kind of spoiled. I used to have a ( ( ) ) Chevy. With a three fifty in it. And, uh, I really liked working on it. Uh, cause it was pretty easy too. It was about a nineteen seventy. So I'm kind of, uh, biased in that and, you know, I want a car that I can work on because I think it just costs too much even to get the oil changed anymore. And that's kind of, that's, that's probably one thing I'd look at. I think another thing I'd look at is safety.", "Yeah. That's one of the things that my wife and I have thought about. Actually, the car, one of the cars we'd most like to get would be the new ninety one Ford Taurus cause they're actually one of the cheaper cars that have dual side air bags.", "That's a real nice car, I think. I've driven some, uh, Tauruses over the last couple of years when I've been on business trips. Uh, as rental cars. And I've always been very impressed with the Taurus. It's a really nice car. I think it's very it's a stylish car both inside and out. It's comfortable to drive. Uh, reasonable performance, and this is out in California where, where they do n't make a car that's got reasonable performance anymore. Uh, I've been real impressed with that. Yo, and I did n't realize that they were putting dual, uh, air bags in that car now.", " Ninety, yeah. Or, excuse me, the ninety twos. The ninety twos had dual air bags. This newest model. You could", " ( ( Oh, I think that ) ),", "get them with duals", "That's excellent. That's excellent because,", " Yeah. But the thing is that it's twenty thousand dollars. Actually, my, my wife and I are actually thinking, contemplating buying a new car in the next year and a half or so. So we're actually been looking around and thinking about things. We'd like to get like a oh, I do n't know. What do you call it? A dealer return type thing on a ninety two and ninety three or something like that you know. Year old ninety two or something like that.", "Uh huh. Sure. Those are", " See if we,", "yeah, that, that would be a good deal to go with.", "And the other thing we're looking at is the Saturns too. Because they looked really nice.", "Uh huh. What do you, what do you looking for in, in those? What, what attracts you to the Saturns? Or, or, of course, we've already talked, you know, the Taurus is safe. But wh, what kind of things are you looking for?", " Well, the Saturns you can get air bags in them. I do n't think you can get dual side air bags. But one of the, the two things that I'm really, the, the I'd say the most important thing is a car that's not going to fall apart. That does n't have problems. You set down. You look at consumer reports. We've been pouring over consumer reports and you just get so depressed for the U S auto makers when you do that. Because you see the reliability and the types of problems they have and, and the two cars that apparently are close to that. That actually have high reliability, the Taurus is one of the highest U S cars. And the other one is, are the Saturns. So those two things. And then, you know, we kind of want a four door."]}
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{"turn_id": ["4358_0", "4358_1", "4358_2", "4358_3", "4358_4", "4358_5", "4358_6", "4358_7", "4358_8", "4358_9", "4358_10", "4358_11", "4358_12", "4358_13"], "speaker_role": ["Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2"], "utterance": ["Okay. What is your, uh, community, uh, currently doing with regard to recycling?", "Uh, basically, they're just, uh, having various recycling, uh, bins, uh, located for, uh, trash pickup.", "Uh huh Well that's more than we have up here in Massachusetts. Some, some local communities are very active in that, uh, in that respect and they do have bins set up. But I live in a, a metropolitan area and, uh, they're not, uh, too inclined to do something as aggressive as that", "Well, here they and, uh, live in an apartment complex. And they only have one set of recycling bins, one or two sets as opposed to a set at each of the dumpsters. So a lot of the people who live up front do n't bother to recycle because, you know, it's too far to carry the stuff to the other bins.", "I, I know a lot, I think a lot of, uh, the, the issues with regard to recycling are that, uh, people have to be motivated to do, to do something like that because it does take extra effort. Whether and, and I think that, and I know Massachusetts has, a bottle bill was passed and we have had a bottle bill for quite a few years now, and the majority of the incentive in recycling bottles probably, believe it or not, is just to get the extra nickel at the, uh, the store and not, uh, that's the majority of people that I know of anyways. Where people are n't really, you know, eco conscious. It's just the fact that it's something they have to do. And I'm not going to throw a bottle away, it's like throwing a nickel away. That type of thing. But, uh, people need to be more conscious of it.", "Th, here they're trying to push through a bill and a lot of people are against it. And it's going to create a lot more work for the, uh, the stores that sell, you know, sodas and stuff. Because they want to implement a refund on cans and on plastic bottles and everything.", "Yeah ( ( ) ) It did n't, it, it took awhile for that bill to be passed up here as far as recycling bottles and cans. Uh, and, and matter of fact, I think it took like three tries t, for it to go through. But, and it's been pretty successful and people notice it as far as, uh, highways being, uh, you know, people would dr, have a drink of soda, instead of throwing out the window, they, they keep the bottle so it's, it's been a ecologically sound policy and, you know, as, as far as recycling your bottles in terms of trash and so forth. But more importantly, it's recycling reusable materials back into, uh, manufacturing. And that's the big thing, I think, that th, they try to promote.", "Right. I think here if they, uh, instead of just, you know, requiring that you put, put out the trash and stuff, if they could get some kind of rebate, those people who do put the stuff out, uh, you know, and separate it, have lower collection fee or something may", " Yeah, that's a good idea.", "people to separate.", "Th, there definitely has to be a motivation factor and I know that, at w, where I work, I work for a defense contractor. And there's a big push on for recycling, uh, paper materials, you know, computer output paper and also to decrease the amount of, uh, Styrofoam usage because of the, uh, the process involved in Styrofoam and, and the whole eco issue and that. And, and they're very proactive and, uh, matter of fact, they give you discounts if you use, uh, china wear rather than, uh, Styrofoam stuff, so. So, i, i, it's incentives like that that get people people more conscious of it. I think that's, that's what they need to do. Be more ( ( proactive ) ) like that.", "Uh, I know, uh, I believe it was last year that they actually collected the old phone books. Uh, usually have them come from ( ( ) ) you know, projects to collect old ones. Usually just get dumped out with the trash. And phone books are a large volume of annual trash.", "Yeah. They, they just, matter of fact, that, that reminded me of an article I saw in the pa, the local schools, you could send your phone book to your, uh, to, with your kid to school and what they'll do is they'll recycle it. Because there was an article or a story done awhile ago that, uh, trash, uh, the telephone books are the type of thing that do n't break down over a long period of time. A guy went to a d, a landfill, dug down five feet and, and pulled up a phone book from like nineteen sixty because they do n't, they do n't degrade over such a period of time.", "Well, part of the problem with recycling them in the past has been the covers are made with a clay based paper. They contain the glue and stuff and they used to have to take out all the, uh, pages and then cut the spine off to be able to recycle them. Now I think they've come up with some way of, uh, pulling the glue out."]}
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{"turn_id": ["4360_0", "4360_1", "4360_2", "4360_3", "4360_4", "4360_5", "4360_6", "4360_7", "4360_8", "4360_9", "4360_10", "4360_11", "4360_12", "4360_13", "4360_14", "4360_15", "4360_16", "4360_17", "4360_18", "4360_19"], "speaker_role": ["Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2"], "utterance": ["Uh, let's see. How about, uh, let's see, about ten years ago, uh, what do you think was different ten years ago from now?", "Well, I would say as, far as social changes go, uh, I think families were more together. They, they did more things together.", "Uh huh faint > >.", "Uh, they ate dinner at the table together. Uh, the parents usually took out time, uh, you know, more time than they do now to come with the children and just spend the day doing a family activity. Uh, although I'm not a mother, I, I still think that, uh, a lot has changed since ten years ago. Uh, what do you think about that?", "Well, uh, actually ten years from today seems rather short. Uh, but I do agree that, uh, generally it's, society has sort of, uh, let's see, rushed everything ahead. And, uh, I do n't know, it leaves, leaves a lot of time out for family and things like that. In other words, they just prioritize their lives differently. But I think that has a lot to do with economic situation.", "Yes. What about like as far as, uh, social changes in the individual? Do you think that the individual has as much time as they did, let's say, ten, twenty years ago?", "Um. It depends. Uh, it's hard to say because I think people were busy ten twenty years ago too. Uh, I just", "Well, how, how old are you?", "I'm twenty eight.", "Twenty eight. Okay, I'm twenty three. So there's maybe a five year gap between us.", "I just, I think that things were a bit, were, have been busy all along. It's just a matter where priorities are, at placed. And that, uh, usually as far as families are concerned, there used to be just one person working and usually the other parent was home. And now, uh, it's pretty much an economic necessity of, for most, in most places for both parents to work.", "Do you think it's an economic c, necessity or do you think that we're, we're, uh, all trying to keep up with a certain standard of living?", "I think that's part of it too. But I do think,", "I mean do you think, people really need two cars and", "No, no. I do n't.", " a house in the suburbs or,", "No, I do n't think that. But then there are a lot of people that, that do n't have that. But, that really do need to work. I think maybe those people that really do need to work, both parents, just to survive. And then there, th, is, is that other group that is working to maintain a standard of living that, uh, they think is, is surviving which is really more luxuries. Uh, but I I tend to think that it's less those people that have the two cars and everything than it is the group that is just trying to survive.", "Yo, so you think it's, which group are you saying is the one trying?", " I'm saying that the, uh, the group that is just trying to survive from day to day, where both parents are working is more of the majority than the, than the people that have the higher standard of living. Because if you look at economics across this country and statistics on who has the money and who the decreasing, uh, middle class in this country I think that that's, in my opinion, the case. So. I mean I have met people that, uh, both that, that just want to maintain a, the standard of living and those that, that really need the job.", "Okay. And then, sometimes I, I often, uh, find that maybe there's so many different things available to us. Yo, a microwave, a V C R, a answering machine a, you know, a special, a dishwasher, uh, a refrigerator and some of those items, um, for the, for the, uh, well I guess we're sticking more to social changes but, uh people want all of that and not all of those are necessities."]}
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{"turn_id": ["4617_0", "4617_1", "4617_2", "4617_3", "4617_4", "4617_5", "4617_6", "4617_7", "4617_8", "4617_9", "4617_10", "4617_11", "4617_12", "4617_13", "4617_14", "4617_15", "4617_16", "4617_17", "4617_18", "4617_19", "4617_20", "4617_21", "4617_22", "4617_23", "4617_24", "4617_25"], "speaker_role": ["Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2"], "utterance": ["I say they, uh, probably the best things to do is, is tie them with a rope and throw them in the water ( ( if they sink ) )", " I see. A", "they're innocent right.", "a good, a good southern solution.", "Yeah. Uh, so, uh, how do you, how do you feel? Th, that's, of course, being facetious but", "Uh huh. You'd have to say that. Uh, I do n't know. The, the things they asked to talk about were whether the, uh, whether the judge should be the one that does the, uh, sentencing. And seems to me that that's, I think that's the way it's done now. Uh, at least, my understanding of the law which is n't very good. Uh, it seems to me that the judge does it and I, I think that's probably all right in that they, you know, maybe know what the, the norm is for a particular thing.", "And, I guess, also what the system will absorb Probably more tuned in to that. Possibly though on, uh, capital cases like maybe the death penalty uh, I'm kind of undecided on that whether the judge should have the sole, I mean he could have like a personal prejudice. You know, judges are people like everybody else even though they're, they're supposed to be impartial but maybe, uh,", " And I think that may, I, that may be an exception as well. Because I think that, does n't the jury decide on the death penalty rather than, than the judge?", " I, I think that's, I think that's the way it is. Uh, whether they, they decide whether or not they, uh, the accused or whatever would get the, uh, get the death penalty. Do they have a death penalty in California?", "fact, they're going to execute somebody at the end of this month. And, uh, there's a big uproar going on right now. Uh the, uh, Governor, you know, has been trying to decide whether he's going to commute it or not. You know, it's someone who had, uh, killed two teenage boys here in San Diego as a matter of fact.", "Yeah. I, something like that, I've got no problem with it. Uh I guess the way I think about it is not, it should n't necessarily be thought of as revenge. It's just like if you've got like a dog that's running wild and biting people put it to sleep, you know. Just get it out, you know, it's not able to fit in, you know Yeah. Yeah, exactly Uh, I guess, kind of the way I think about it also, is they just, if somebody gets the death penalty, they're, they're judged guilty, they got the death penalty, they should have one year and one appeal. Cover all their bases with one appeal and if not, you know, do n't, do n't let them sit up there on death row for, you know, fifteen years.", "Yeah. I think this particular case has been like ten or fifteen years.", "Uh huh. Yeah, that,", " But I guess there have been several cases where people have been executed by mistake and", "Yeah. Oh, I'm sure", " you'd hate to be one of those. The other thing they asked about was whether uh, uh, the verdict should be required to be unanimous. Which, again, I think is the way it is now. That all the, all verdicts, well maybe not. I do n't know. At least in capital cases I'd think they'd have to be", "I believe it is in capital. I think in like, uh, lesser cases it's like ten out of twelve or five out of six, whatever How ever many is on, sitting on a jury. I t, I believe that's the way it is. But I'm pretty sure you're correct on capital cases. Uh", "Yeah. The paper here tonight had a thing about the Noriega trial. And that there's one juror that is, is, uh, different than the other eleven. And, uh, they've only deliberated four hours or, something and they say they're hopelessly deadlocked. ( ( And ) ) the judge told them they were n't hopelessly deadlocked yet", "I'm telling you, go one way or the other. That, that's probably an expensive trial. ( ( Uh ) ),", " Yeah. Six months so far they said.", "Yeah. Probably. You know, I'm not sure there's a number. It's probably like thirty, forty thousand dollars a day you know, worth of all the free for all.", "Maybe they could go with a, with a nine hundred number and have people dial in and give their, uh, vote.", " Yeah Yeah, that's, that's been so long I've prac, practically forgot who Noriega was, you know. That has been going on My, uh, cousin is a F B I agent down in Miami. Yeah. So she follows that stuff pretty closely. But, uh, Yeah, she's not involved in that, that case. But she does,", "Well have you ever served on a jury?", "No I have n't. I never have. My wife has but I, I have n't.", " Uh huh. I got called but I, uh, never, uh, got selected for a jury I background > > sat for tw, ten days in a court room while they went through the selection process, and they had some guy that was, uh, defending himself."]}
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{"turn_id": ["4619_0", "4619_1", "4619_2", "4619_3", "4619_4", "4619_5", "4619_6", "4619_7", "4619_8", "4619_9", "4619_10", "4619_11", "4619_12", "4619_13", "4619_14"], "speaker_role": ["Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1"], "utterance": ["Bye to someone else > >. speaking to A > > So we're, uh, our discussion's about, uh, the care of the elderly?", "That's right, that's right. You know, what, what, uh, what do you think is important? If you were, uh, I do n't know how, how old you are, but if you had, if you had, uh, parents say or, or, or th, grandparents, whatever it is, uh, who were ready, who, who you thought might benefit from a nursing home, what do you think you would look for?", "Uh, well I, actually my dad's, my dad's almost ninety and he lives by himself and he's in good shape. Uh, but, uh, some friends of mine have, uh, gone through this. I think I'd look for a home where they got a lot of attention and, uh, where they did some things to try to keep them, um, mentally alive. And where there was, uh, caring and compassionate, where there were caring and compassionate people, uh, operating it. Do you have any experience with this yourself?", "Well my, uh, uh, my wife's grandmother is in a nursing home in, uh, Minnesota and we go there, uh, once a year. We see, we tend to see her there cause we're in Boston so we're pretty far away. When we visit Minnesota though we go to see her. And it seems, uh, I mean the, the environment there, I do n't know too much about it but it, it seems nice enough. Uh, it, it's hard, at least half of the residents I would say are not, not mentally sound. So it's hard to tell how much of that rubs off on those who are struggling to r, to retain, uh, clarity, say, uh, ( ( you know ) ).", " From the lack of stimulation, you mean.", " Yeah. Well I, I don, I do n't know. We, we also, my wife and I, uh, uh, volunteer to go to a, uh, nursing home that's just a mile from our house. We, uh, she goes more often than I. We used to go once a month, once every two months to visit some of the patients there. And we'd take, we have a two year old son and so we, sometimes we'd take him with us. And, uh, there I would say it's the same thing. It's, it's a nice, uh, relatively nice environment but again, um, it must be depressing for the people who, who are, who are just e, e, essentially not able to take care of themselves in their own house but, but, certainly, uh, certainly have ar, ar, are, have retained all of their, uh, mental skills and so on. It's, must be depressing to, to walk, walk the halls and see, an, and see all these other people who really do n't know where they are.", "Do you think that in the case of the one that you've actually had some experience with, that the people who operate it seem to have, what you'd perceive of as genuine concern?", "I think, yeah, I think they're relatively re, respectful. Yeah and, and concerned that, in as much as they can be. I, I think sometimes, you know, I've noticed, uh, people asking for, uh, some of the patients asking for things, uh, just repetitively and, but things that are not reasonable, and so at some level the, the, the, uh, I'm sure that the, that the, uh, the staff l, learn what's normal for this person and so it looks to me like maybe their not catering to this person's needs is really because this person is just, you know, is just in a state where they do n't really need what they think they need, you know.", "Yeah. It, it's possible, I was thinking also that there'd be, there could be a fair burn out factor um, in just having to respond to people's needs where the needs are sometimes, depending on the person, not going to be what we would perceive of as rational need.", "Yeah. I'll tell you one thing though that'll, that, that I, I saw that was really nice. We saw a husband and wife, we used to see a husband and wife in there, uh, together and they were in the same room which not all husband and wives were but these two were. And when you walked into their room, they had brought all their furniture from their house", "Uh huh. So it gives them a sense of identity.", "Yeah, you walked in there and it did n't look like, uh, you know, how, yo, you, you walk into some rooms and there's, it's completely generic. There's nothing, maybe a picture or two that belongs to that person and that's it. But this room, on the other hand, you know, they got rid of all of the sort of standard issue beds and dressers and this and that and they had all their stuff from their house and it looked like, uh, i, i, it must have been, it was nicer to walk in there and to talk to them and it must also give them a sense of, uh, uh, security and, and, uh, and, and, you know, s, s, uh,", " Yeah, I, I think part of what you're saying matches what I h, have read. I used to initially think that the only people who went into such residences were people who, uh, were adequately deficient in their abilities, uh physical or mental, that they could n't take care of themselves. But I also know a couple of people whose parents have gone into such things because I think they provide, um, a lot of social activities. Uh, the, one of my friend's parents who went in because she had largely lost her abilities and she was in there for awhile when they were away on vacation. Uh, and,", " Huh. ( ( ) ) temporary. I, that, that's, that's new to me. I,", "Well I think it, I think t, it was sort of on the grounds that they were considering whether she would live there and I feel like, the whole vocabulary of this is very loaded if you think of words like, like put her in there."]}
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{"turn_id": ["4877_0", "4877_1", "4877_2", "4877_3", "4877_4", "4877_5", "4877_6", "4877_7", "4877_8", "4877_9", "4877_10", "4877_11", "4877_12", "4877_13", "4877_14", "4877_15"], "speaker_role": ["Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2"], "utterance": ["Okay. Uh, so your, you, I guess you're probably in the same, uh, same situation uh, we're in. We're kind of past having to provide child care. Our, our kids are grown up. We do n't have any grandchildren yet. But, uh, uh, they're,", "Uh huh. How old are your children?", "Uh, one's twenty six and the other is, uh, twenty, twenty one. So they're, uh, uh,", "Well, they're going to be getting there.", "They're, they're getting there. You know, there's no no, no prospects right away for anything to happen.", "U, uh huh. Oh, I see. I have, uh, five children. I have a eighteen year old son. The ( ( rest ) ) of my girls are like twenty three, twenty six, twenty eight, and twenty nine. And I have three granddaughters right now. And, uh, I, uh, one's in Iowa. And, uh, she's, she's a teacher and what she does is she, teaches at a preschool. And, and so she kind of, and they let her bring her, her little daughter in for free. And then, so ( ( ) ) but she just works part time. Then I have another daughter in, uh, Bountiful, Utah and she has to work full time and it's just tearing her apart. She has a private baby sitter. And, uh, the baby just screams. I mean, the baby is like seventeen months and she just screams. Well even if she knows that they're fixing to get ready to go over there. They're not even there yet", "Yeah. It's hard. We,", " And, and then I have my, uh, uh, I have a seven month old granddaughter and, uh, her mother stays home and she, they live, they live with us. You know, in, as Orange County is really expensive. They live with us and so, of course, we love it. Because we get to see this cute little baby all the time. But, uh, uh, she just, uh, she used to work in pre, in the preschool and, and, and child care and she says after working in there and, and, you know, here she was a provider but, you know, there's only so much one person can do. She said it's so awful. She said she'll never put her child in a, in a, in a preca, in a p, in a preschool. I'm sure there must be some good ones around here somewhere. But it's really, it's really, really very difficult and,", " Yeah. What did you do when your kids were growing up? Were you,", "Well, when, when the, uh, the first, uh, ten years, see first ten or twelve years, I stayed home. And, uh, then after that I, I went to work. And, uh, uh, uh, a couple of times I just, uh, uh, you know, th, then I had one job and then that job ran out because it was kind of a government seeded type job. And then, and then like about, later I, I tried to get the baby to a baby sitter. Supposed to be good, uh, recommended person from the church and I knew her personally. She had two kids of her own and everything. But I quit my job because I could n't stand how she was taking care of my child. I mean, first of all, uh, her children were sick all the time. So when my son stayed over there, he got sick.", "He got sick, yeah.", " Same thing, same thing that the, her kids had, right? And so, uh, we did n't take her over there until like about eleven o'clock. Then he, she'd take my son and her daughter over t, to kindergarten. But s, that day, uh, I was saying now he, he's sick. And she goes well, she goes, he has the same thing that all my kids have. That's what he got, you know. Goes, well, okay, so it's not like he's going to infect her kids. But then what happened was, is, I said, uh, he just threw up and kindergarten starts at eleven thirty so she said well she'll keep him home and he'll probably just sleep anyway. Well, you know, what that woman sent her, sent him to kindergarten. She sent him to kindergarten. As soon as he went there, the teacher took one look at him and he threw up again and they put him in the nursery, uh, they put him in the nurse's office.", "( ( Guess so ) ), yeah.", "And then what happened was, is, you know, they gave her a call because they knew that she was my baby sitter. Called her and they said, uh, that he's sick. Well she was n't home. I mean her, all her kids were sick but she was n't home, right. And her, and her, her daughter that was in kindergarten with him also did not go to school because she was sick. Now why did n't he, why did n't she keep him home with her? No, she did n't do that. So, it got to the point where he's, he's supposed to get out of, uh, kindergarten like about two thirty. And I had to leave work. It was, it was five o'clock in the evening and I found out he was still there at school. And they were calling me and they said somebody's got to pick him up. And I kept thinking that she was going to get picked up, she was going to pick him up because she only lives in like two blocks away from the school. I was trying to get my husband to come and pick him up and all that kind of stuff. And he had a hundred and four fever. They could n't, uh, give him anything because they're not allowed to at school and everything. I was so furious. I, I quit that job and I stayed home for awhile longer. Then I went and got a, uh, a job in real estate where I can kind of adjust my time a little bit better.", "Yeah, a little more flexibility. You can come and go.", " Yeah, but, uh, I have n't had any good, really very good experience with child care"]}
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{"turn_id": ["3389_0", "3389_1", "3389_2", "3389_3", "3389_4", "3389_5", "3389_6", "3389_7", "3389_8", "3389_9", "3389_10", "3389_11", "3389_12", "3389_13", "3389_14", "3389_15", "3389_16", "3389_17", "3389_18", "3389_19", "3389_20", "3389_21", "3389_22", "3389_23", "3389_24", "3389_25", "3389_26", "3389_27", "3389_28", "3389_29", "3389_30", "3389_31", "3389_32", "3389_33", "3389_34", "3389_35", "3389_36", "3389_37", "3389_38", "3389_39", "3389_40", "3389_41", "3389_42"], "speaker_role": ["Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1"], "utterance": ["So, who's your favorite team?", "My favorite team is the Pittsburgh Steelers.", " I used to be a big Pittsburgh fan when I was little.", "Well, I, uh, when ( ( John ) ) ( ( Stallworth ) ) played he was from my hometown in Alabama, so I kind of grabbed on to that team,", "Huh. ( ( That's pretty nice ) ).", " way back when.", "( ( Yeah, ) ) that's good. I, I used to watch them a lot when they were playing the big iron curtain, or steel curtain.", "How about your favorite team?", "Huh. Well, last year it was Buffalo and I, I still try to keep up with Buffalo because they just, they just impressed me as being so efficient and they never score. They never blow out their opponents. They just score just enough points, and that really impressed me. But then down here I li, ( ( ) ) is pretty close to New Orleans and I've been keeping up with the Saints a lot.", "Well, they are exciting, are n't they?", "Yeah, the Saints are starting to impress me this year, you know, a lot.", "Boy, they are, they are just a fun team to watch.", "This, it, they are really. Did you see the game Sunday night or,", "no, I did n't.", "It was funny. There were, they ha, uh, a fireworks display at halftime. Yeah, and some paper or something in the Super Dome up in the roof caught on fire.", "Oh, you're kidding", " So, they had to stop the game ( ( in lieu of ) ) the third quarter and put out this fire. Those big piece of something came flaming, falling out of the roof and landed on the field so there's this big fire on the field and they were dumping the ( ( Gatorade ) ) bucket and everything.", "Oh, I ca n't believe that.", " It was funn, I mean, you just really ca n't tell what's going to happen. I know. It's like about two weeks ago I was watching the Saints. And ( ( Morton ) ) Anderson kicked a sixty yard field goal. And it, it was beautiful, right down the middle.", "Oh, boy. He is tough, he has an incredible leg. Well, do you think they're, they're going to be able to make it this year, past the first playoff game?", "I sure hope so. I'm not sure, I'm not sure who they play. Right now I've got it narrowed down to the top four teams. It's pretty much going between Washington. They are undefeated. And, uh, Buffalo, New Orleans, and Chicago because Chicago has only lost twice and one of those was to Buffalo. And they beat the Saints. Their only time they lost.", "What do you think about, uh, Houston?", "Houston. I saw Houston play this summer in Memphis. Yeah. Uh, from what I saw they were playing, when I was at the game we sat right on the front row, right behind the Houston Oilers, and from what I saw the game Houston, Houston impressed me a lot. But my brother watched it on T V and said that Warren Moon was just having an off night, and if that was an off night I'd hate to see when he's on a good night.", "Oh, yeah, he's he definitely, uh, is one of the best I think.", "Yeah, the, their, their backfield is really impressive. Haywood ( ( Jeffreys ) ) and Drew Hill and ( ( Allen ) ) ( ( ) ), they really impress me.", "Well, they squeaked out a game on Sunday.", "That's right. Who, who did they play?", "They played Dallas.", "Dallas, that's right, That's right. I remember that now.", "So that was, I, I watched that game and, uh, that was, uh,", "Do you have a favorite between those two?", "Well, because I'm right here in Dallas I, I kind of pull for Dallas. Yeah. Well, also Houston is, uh, in Pittsburgh's division so,", " Well, that's true.", " I'll almost always root against them.", "I hate to say it but I hate Dallas", "That's okay Well I, you know, I, I was never really a big Dallas fan until we moved here and they just kind of grew on me.", "Yeah, I imagine. That's the way, I've never been a big Saints fan until the last year or two and they, they've actually started doing something. So, I've actually pl, paid attention to them. Well, do you know anything about the expansion teams they're thinking about bringing in?", "To tell you the truth I have n't paid too much attention to that. Um, what cities are they looking at?", "Uh, right now I think this Memphis, they're, they're trying to get the teams. And that's, that's where I was when I saw, uh, Houston play. Saint Louis is trying to get a team. Uh, Baltimore is trying to get a team, and there's some other city. I'm wanting to say Raleigh ( ( Durham ) ) but I'm not sure.", "You know, I think you are right. I think it is Raleigh. I think I remember hearing that.", "Uh huh. Because I know they've got a ( ( ) ) football team but I think it might be them.", "That would be fun. I'd like to see some more teams get in.", "I would, definitely. I think they are supposed to put two in by either next year or the year after. And right now I think Memphis and, it's Memphis and I think Baltimore have a really good shot at it. Because I know Saint Louis is much bigger than Memphis and when I went up there they were saying that Memphis sold more tickets than Saint Louis did."]}
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{"turn_id": ["4036_0", "4036_1", "4036_2", "4036_3", "4036_4", "4036_5", "4036_6", "4036_7", "4036_8", "4036_9", "4036_10", "4036_11", "4036_12", "4036_13", "4036_14", "4036_15", "4036_16", "4036_17", "4036_18", "4036_19", "4036_20", "4036_21", "4036_22", "4036_23", "4036_24", "4036_25", "4036_26", "4036_27", "4036_28", "4036_29", "4036_30", "4036_31", "4036_32", "4036_33"], "speaker_role": ["Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2"], "utterance": ["I think that, uh, one, uh, advantage of having, uh, the unanimous verdict is that in a criminal case you want to make sure that you do n't, uh, convict someone who, uh, really should n't be convicted. Um, and I think that, you know, a unanimous verdict, uh, helps to ensure that. I guess maybe one drawback of it is that if you have one juror who is very unreasonable in some way, that, uh, you, uh, would have a problem, uh, you know, that you would n't convict someone who maybe should be convicted. Have you ever served on a jury before?", "Uh, I have twice. It was a pretty wild experience.", "Uh, what sorts of cases were they?", "They were just, you know, small time cases where, uh, trailers and banks were involved, you know.", "So were they criminal or civil?", "They were civil. They were n't they were n't any criminal.", "What, uh, what was the verdict? Did the, did the jury have trouble reaching a decision?", "Uh, the jury, it was, uh, let me see, I think it was ten to one on the jury, because they only had to have eleven people so it was, they, and, uh, the one changed his vote at the end.", "So did it become?", "So it became unanimous, you know, after they turned it in and then he changed his mind after they turned it in but it then became unanimous.", "Uh. But since it was a civil case it really did n't matter, right? You just needed a majority? What was, what was the other case? That was also civil?", "The, the other case was just traffic, the, and, you know, it was seat belt law and it, it did n't even hardly", "Oh, did n't really even count.", "go through, so.", "Yeah. I'm, I'm a college student so I have n't been, you know, a jury eligible age for very long um, and, uh, I did get one summons actually at one point, but I declined it which I'm able to do because I'm a student, because it was, uh, a very bad time.", "Yeah. Well, you learn a lot going to the juries like that though.", "Yeah, I mean, I, I really, I would like to, uh, to do at some point, um, but, I, I have n't. Uh, one, one thing that I, I think is, um, you know, maybe is a problem is, uh, I, I think that the criminal jury system works pretty well now, but I wonder if maybe in some civil cases it does n't work as well. Especially sort of.", " I would n't think that it does I mean, from, from my, from what I experienced in them, it did n't, you know, it did n't turn out the way I planned it, I mean, the way that I would think that it would go.", "Uh, you thought it turned out pretty well?", "Yeah, but it was, you know, it was, jury was unorganized and it was, it was just was n't organized enough for me. I'm not used to it not being organized, and I just assumed that it would have been.", "Oh, so it was just kind of a zoo and the jurors just sort of, someone had to figure out what was going on?", "That's about what it was.", "Um. That's interesting. Did it, did it work out pretty well in the end? I mean, did a couple of people sort of gradually, sort of assume, uh, sort of a moderator role in the trial or,", "Yeah, they, well they picked one person, and then he finally, you know, moderated everything and made it turn out the way it should have.", "So it work, it did end up working out pretty well?", "Yeah, it ended up working all right.", "The one thing I sometimes wonder about, um, in civil cases is, uh, whether, especially sort of in, uh, maybe like pro, product liability, or medical malpractice, where there's, um, sort of a very technical decision to be made sometimes you know, it's not just a matter of, um, of, you know, did this guy rip off this guy, and it's just a matter of interpreting a contract, it's sort of a matter of, um, you know, sometimes getting into very technical issues, and I wonder if, uh, if there's really, um, if the system works adequately in, in educating the jurors about, uh, whatever, um, you know, issue is under discussion.", "I, I do n't think that they, they, they educate them enough to, to really know what's going on.", "In, in the case you were involved in, you said it was just sort of a bank matter of some kind. So.", "Yeah, the, the bank was suing them for, uh, because they went to get the, the trailer that, which was, uh, seemingly their property. It was on his property.", "Oh, so the deal was that he had, uh, borrowed money from the bank to buy it, and he had n't made the payments.", "So they came to get it. And then when they came to get it, well, it was on the landlord's property and he would n't let them take it off.", "Uh, so they were suing to get it back.", "So, and they are, it was a double wide, so they'd already taken it apart. So they left it there and then when they came back to get it a couple of days later it had rained and got all in it."]}
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{"turn_id": ["4082_0", "4082_1", "4082_2", "4082_3", "4082_4", "4082_5", "4082_6", "4082_7", "4082_8", "4082_9", "4082_10", "4082_11", "4082_12", "4082_13", "4082_14", "4082_15", "4082_16", "4082_17", "4082_18", "4082_19", "4082_20", "4082_21", "4082_22", "4082_23", "4082_24", "4082_25"], "speaker_role": ["Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2"], "utterance": ["Uh, I get most of my news uh, from newspapers really. I read the daily newspaper, uh, the HOUSTON CHRONICLE and sometimes I'll read like the, uh, WALL STREET or the NEW YORK TIMES. I do n't subscribe to either, but sometimes I get a hold of copies of it. Uh, how about you? Do you, uh, mostly get things from T V or ( ( ) ).", "I actually get most of my news coverage off uh, computer networks. However, I do also watch television news, uh, usually in the morning once a day and I read the front page of the WALL STREET JOURNAL most every day.", "Oh that's interesting. You said computer networks. Uh, what, uh, what sort. I am fairly knowledgeable of ( ( ) ) faint > >.", " Uh well, well DOW JONES for example have the, cause the", "Uh, okay. That's interesting.", "uh, news wire and it's picked up and actually available, uh, at my office, so, it's, no fee, or subscription either to read at my leisure and it's sort of by category. For example so I can read a certain business or topics.", "is it the A P news wire or is it something that is, uh, a little bit different from that?", "Well, uh, it's similar to that, but it's DOW JONES, which is, uh, the WALL STREET JOURNALS news wire.", "Uh, okay. So, that's that's interesting. Okay. Yeah, I've had, I had access in the past to, uh, uh, the A P news wire and I thought that was that was pretty a pretty good way to get news. Uh, I've never used the DOW JONES news wire but, uh, yeah it, uh, do you get any, uh, do you read any news magazines or anything like that for sort of like a broader, like more long term analytical sort of approach?", "Uh, well actually not. Uh, I do, uh, follow, uh, uh, uh, I do n't know how to how to describe it so I'll say a religious newspaper which, which talks about issues that are relevant to me in a more broad sense. It's a weekly but, uh, but not, uh, not like BUSINESS WEEK or NEWS WEEK or one of those kinds of things. I'd like to say that however, uh, that I'm overwhelmingly disappointed with the media in general except for the raw news wires", "In what way? In like, in sort of like, uh, qual, uh, quality or sort of an orientation in terms of like, view point or the way the news is presented or whatever?", "Uh, I think that it, I think that it has to do with, uh, I personally think, uh, I, I have a problem with their viewpoint and I personally think that, uh, ther,", " Yeah. Well you wo n't offend me. So go ahead and say", " that there's a strong bia, there's a strong bias in the media.", "Yeah. Like a liberal type of bias.", "Yeah. Absolutely. Uh, after all, who, who writes. People who are journalist who are trained to write and they're, that's a liberal, uh, a liberal field at least from academia and, uh, the other thing that I always notice is that whenever they write about something that I'm an expert in, I find their descriptions to be wrong", "They, they generally make mistake on anything technical at least like > >.", "That's right. Well, even if it's not technical. If it's, uh, some social thing or whatever. It does n't matter. If I am an expert in it, they usually make mistakes which makes me believe think I'm not expert in it. They're telling me lies.", "Yeah. Yeah. Do you, by mistakes, do you mean just like honest mistakes or do you think they are deliberate sorts of things?", "Uh, I think both. Uh, by deliberate I, uh, I mean mistake, mistakes of omission or, uh, or, uh, biased toward a particular view point a particular liberal view point that they have. So, uh, uh, to give you an example, uh, we will go out of the printing media. I know of cases where, uh, we have one television media where they will show clippings from one event and describe another event but, with the the attempt to give you the impression that what they're talking about is the same thing they are showing you. Which is sort of like a deliberate bias.", "Huh. That's disturbing.", "Which is which is rather disturbing. I mean he does that.", " I have n't really noticed them doing that, but whatever, again I do n't watch T V news that much now. If I had access to C N N, I would watch T V news more. Uh, I do n't you know, but I do n't usually.", "Yeah, I do n't have access either. Although, I did at one time and it was, I did during the Gulf War and it was addictive.", "Yeah. Did you, did you think that C N N, well, the Gulf War coverage would be kind of, uh, an abnormality? I just wonde, I guess. I would be curious to know what you thought as to how like say C N N T V news compared to the three networks. Uh, you know whether you thought it was more of a biased or whatever but I, I guess you would n't. You probably, if you just watched it during the Gulf War, that probably would n't would n't tell you much.", "Yeah, well during that small sample, I would think that everyone was just about, just about the same, except the three networks, ( ( ) ) radio television programming. So, if at a particular time, you wanted to get the latest and greatest news"]}
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{"turn_id": ["4104_0", "4104_1", "4104_2", "4104_3", "4104_4", "4104_5", "4104_6", "4104_7", "4104_8", "4104_9", "4104_10", "4104_11", "4104_12", "4104_13", "4104_14", "4104_15", "4104_16", "4104_17", "4104_18", "4104_19", "4104_20", "4104_21", "4104_22", "4104_23", "4104_24"], "speaker_role": ["Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1"], "utterance": ["How about you. What do you do with your budget?", "What do I do, uh, at the moment it's under chaos. Uh, right now I'm just, uh, I, I do n't really have a budget per se. I'm, I, uh, it's called living within your means You know, which means at the moment, paying off the VISA bill and keeping everything else under control and hoping the car does n't collapse", "Yeah. That's true.", "Uh, but, uh, no I do n't really have a budget at the moment. Uh, but I have uh, I have a rough feel for how much money I can afford to spend each month and then I do n't, usually do n't exceed that unless I, unless the VISA bill gets out of hand for one reason or another, like if I have car expenses and then that, then it goes through the moon, so.", "Yeah, that's sort of a problem.", "Yeah, so uh, what do yo,", " We're trying, we're trying to, uh, so far we are in the clear credit wise but, uh, the other side of it is, so, not much on that side of it to add to it. We're trying to think of how to put away some savings and stuff like that but,", "So you can afford to get a house?", "Yeah, we'd like to do that some day. We have this dream. But, we do n't know how long it will be a dream. We, we're kind of real, we're real happy that we do n't have any debt, but we're at the same time we're real scared about incurring it in this, uh, economy right now so we're stepping real careful and trying to see what's the best way to save what, the little bit that we do get, you know, on top of expenses every month.", "So, what do you and your husband do?", "We're missionaries actually.", "Are you really?", "Yeah, uh huh. And, uh, it will be easier once we get overseas cause we have, uh, like, uh, uh, support quota and it's cheaper to live overseas than it is to live here. And it does n't get switched very easily once you come home.", "Overseas, where would you be going? Really. How long would you be there?", "About four years. We're career so, we, we go over seas for four years and then we come back for a year. We go over four, we come back for a year.", "With, with what Church?", "Uh, we're with Wycliff Bible Translators.", "Oh yes. Yes, I, uh, I know who they are. They, uh, they have an office, uh, in in Costa Mesa as I recall.", "Yeah, they could very well and,", " There, there was, uh, you know, there was a fairly large building that that was well that belongs to them. So, uh, are you, uh, are you, uh, active in translation?", "Uh, we will be. I was over, over four years doing language surveying which is the first step. You're kind of like the scout that goes ahead of the team and assesses the need. And, uh, came home and got married and we will go ba, back as translators cause we want to raise a family and it is easier to raise a family as translators. Well, I always wanted to do translation, but as long as I was single and foot loose so to speak it's easier. You know they really need surveyors cause you could, you're free to travel anywhere. You do n't have kids hanging around you and stuff.", "True, true enough. So, uh, what, what, uh, what languages do you speak besides English, of course?", "Well, I have a smattering of about ten different ones, but there's, I'm not bilingual in any of them because I kept switching from one area to the other, you know, since I did", "Uh huh faint > >.", "you know, complete a survey in one area, I'd switch to the other. So I know the greetings in about ten, and how to do market stuff, but in about, uh, about five I guess, I can do better in it. And my French is pretty good but it's, uh, ( ( ) ) French so, uh, I'm terrified to speak in, uh in France. Yeah, because they're real snobby about their language and ( ( ) ) French is street French and I just picked it up off the street and I knew what I was, I knew what I was communicating, but I did n't know what I was saying. I never sat there and got a direct translation and said something here when I came home and French to somebody and he paled and said, uh, I'm not going to tell you what you said. So, since then I have refrained from speaking any French I do n't know what I said to him but, uh, I did n't ask him either."]}
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{"turn_id": ["4109_0", "4109_1", "4109_2", "4109_3", "4109_4", "4109_5", "4109_6", "4109_7", "4109_8"], "speaker_role": ["Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1"], "utterance": ["( ( Uh, guy ) ), uh, some of my things, I, I'd like to have a short work week you know, and and we need, you know, better health insurance and you know, cau,", "Okay, we can start off there. Let's just get started. If you do n't want to, you know, uh, talk about it now and then be bored when we get to it", "Okay, so I just press one then right?", "So, so you think, uh, I think that a short work week is real nice. Uh, I have a thirty seven hour work week. How about you?", "Well, well right now, I, I'm just a student. I only work part time, but I've work in the job force before and forty hours is just too long. You just do n't have any time to do anything. It seems like, Saturday you get get off, but Sunday you're getting ready for Monday. And if we get have a if we could have a thirty two hour work week, with that happen is that, for every four people we could give another job. And then that way everybody would have a three day holiday, okay. And that way that more, that would make a bigger market. We'd have, uh, more recreation. People would have time to do it. There would be less of a stress level. We'd have, we'd have less crime. We'd have to we'd have to build less prisons, you know, less police force.", "Yeah, it all makes sense to me. Although, there may be more crime. I mean if people have more leisure time. It's not clear. And that,", "It, it, that's, that's a possibility. One, one of the problems they're facing now, a lot of people now, is that the health insurance is that the small business ca n't, ca n't offer health insurance and it, it's too costly and what, what is happening is that they're on a policy where they have X amount of users in it, okay. So they get a specific rate. Well what happens is that if people start becoming having chronic illness and, and things like that, what happened and where they really have to spend out a lot of money for one particular, it's called a a group, well what will, well what happens then is that they cancel, because they just ca n't cancel an individual. So they, they have to cancel just like life insurance. They have to cancel everything. So what they do is that, that they cancel the insurance and then all the people do n't have any insurance coverage. But, I'm, I'm, you know, I'm, I'm satisfied with my job. I'm, I'm an engineering student. And I work for my instructor and I'm I'm not a typical student. I'm, I'm older. I'm, I'm in my thirties, okay. And so I have a lot of job experience and my instructor thrives on that because he can just tell me what he wants and he can give me access and tell me what to do and just turn me loose but in, in the same token, it's a very, really enjoyable for me because I do n't have to have, you know, nobody breathing down my back and and one of the things that I, I really hate about jobs. I do n't, I do n't like bosses that, that you know want to yell at you and you know are down on your back and all this and that. I, I just really ca n't deal with that so, What kind of, what kind of jobs have you done?", "Well, well, I do wo, uh, research in computer science and I've just been doing that for a few years now so uh, I, my job has most of the benefits I want. Uh, what I really like is, I like being, like they send me to conferences for instance, but probably not as much as I'd like but, uh, you know, that's just nice being, you know, having a company being able to give you time to do that sort of thing and sort of, uh, they also, a really important thing to me is when they, uh, they pay for continuing education. Like, I, I get night courses that they they'll cover right now and that's really good ( ( yeah ) ).", "Yeah, that's just great. You have what you might call knowledge power you know, when when you work at a company whether you know it or not, is that you're categorized. Some people can be let go and replaced like, uh, say, uh, a typist, uh, somebody who does data entry or answers the telephone or receptionist. But if you're a person who, that's doing computer type things and you have the, you have the knowledge, you know what the system you've revised and revamped the system, well then you're you're vital to the company and you get more benefits so. That's where I, I, I'm like, I'm into computers too and that's one of the things that I've found in any one, one of these jobs and anything I've done is that to have knowledge. When you have the knowledge, you're you're not going to, uh, you know, be let go, be one of the last ones to let go anyway."]}
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{"turn_id": ["4168_0", "4168_1", "4168_2", "4168_3", "4168_4", "4168_5", "4168_6", "4168_7", "4168_8", "4168_9", "4168_10", "4168_11", "4168_12", "4168_13", "4168_14", "4168_15", "4168_16", "4168_17", "4168_18", "4168_19", "4168_20", "4168_21", "4168_22", "4168_23", "4168_24", "4168_25", "4168_26", "4168_27", "4168_28", "4168_29", "4168_30", "4168_31", "4168_32", "4168_33", "4168_34", "4168_35", "4168_36", "4168_37", "4168_38", "4168_39", "4168_40", "4168_41", "4168_42", "4168_43", "4168_44", "4168_45", "4168_46"], "speaker_role": ["Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1"], "utterance": ["Well, what were you saying?", "Okay. I, I think we're started now. Uh, do you want to go ahead and start?", "Uh, well, I have n't really been up to date on a lot of music. I've been in school and I have n't really gone out, and bought any or listened to much on the, on the radio except for classical and, uh,", "Well, you like classical music? Uh, I like classical music. I like rock and roll. I like country and western Uh, I, I like all kinds I like, I like different things about each one of them.", "Well, I like most of them except for country music.", " Oh you do n't like country?", "No. I think I, I might like dancing to it but I do n't like listening to it.", "The, the kind of country I like is kind of the older country music. Not the, not the kind like Kenny Rodgers and stuff like that. That's, uh, that's a little bit to, uh, ( ( it's such ) ) they're trying to make it too much of a crossover thing, you know what I mean?", "Uh huh. Wh, what's the old country music like?", "Oh, like, like Hank Williams. Like the old Hank Williams. Even, even Hank Williams, Junior is real good stuff. The kind that uh, this stuff, makes you cry it sounds so sad I mean you d,", " That's the kind you like you mean?", "Yeah. Som, sometimes I do. I mean, not all the time.", "Oh. Oh, okay. Well, I guess I, I like the blues a lot and I guess you could say it's similar as far as", "Yes. And I", " the kind of ma, the way they do it.", "I, I do too. I also like jazz.", "Yeah. Me too, too. I guess I like except heavy metal and, uh, most rap I do n't like. Yeah.", " Yeah. You're, you're about like I am ( ( then ) ). I, I ca n't, watch M T V anymore. I used to love M T V. And I can, I can barely watch anymore because, uh, they have this heavy metal stuff on there and, and I ca n't even, you know, I ca n't like that. And, and I liked, uh, Aerosmith and Led Zepplin and, uh you know, and, uh, jeez who else is there. Van Halen. Now I like, I like groups like that. But when you get, uh, I, I even like Guns and Roses, some of their stuff. But, uh, some of these groups now like Slaughter", " Oh, I, I really have n't listened to that", "Some of them are just really rough. So, so you went to school then in, I'm surprised you did n't go to, to any pa, parties or anything where they were playing a lot of music or stuff or,", "Well, uh, I used to a long time ago but since I've started back into school now, I have n't really done that much. I've been pretty busy. Uh but, uh, so no I have n't. I, you know, I used to go out and dance a lot but I do n't do that anymore either So.", " Oh, I see. Are you married at all?", "I've just been real busy with, with lots of other things.", "Well, how old are you? Okay. So, you, you were out of s, you went to school for awhile and quit. Then went back.", "Well, no. I, I went to school and got a degree and then I worked for awhile. And then I just started, I started back a year and a half ago. Changed directions. Yeah. How old are you?", "Oh, I'm, uh, twenty eight I was born in sixty three I guess we're", " Oh, okay All right.", "the same age then.", "Yeah. And, uh, I did n't really start getting into music until I went to college because, uh, my parents did n't really have music in the house. Put it that way.", " Oh, rea, Were they religious? uh, I see. I,", " So, I'm always behind. I'm, I'm not, I'm never really up to date on all that stuff. But I know what I like when it's, uh, when I like a sound. A certain kind of sound, yeah.", " My parents were very musical. My mother had in the, in the house. My father likes, uh, country western music. He's from, uh, West Virginia. So that's what he grew up listening to. And he's always liked it and, and, you know, he's probably about fifty three years old now, so he grew up like in the late fifties and you know, when they had that, the Elvis Presley music and stuff like that. And that kind of rock and roll so he likes that. And my mom always liked that kind of stuff. My mom likes like, uh, Doris Day, you know. She always had those, these old Doris Day records and stuff like that, though. So, you know, I grew up listening to that stuff. But, uh, I could see why you went, uh, you know, I could see why you were kind of sheltered I guess from, from music.", "Well, I, I do play the piano, you know But, uh, I, I like the, uh, early seventies, late sixties rock. Kind of stuff, the old stuff. And, uh,", " Yeah, so do I. Do you like, uh, like V, Van Halen or anything like that? Or how about Brian Adams?", "Bri, what kind of music is, does what songs does he play?", "Th, THIS LOVE CUTS LIKE A KNIFE. Uh, SUMMER OF SIXTY NINE.", "I think I've heard SUMMER OF SIXTY NINE.", "Yeah. He sings that. He's, he's from Canada.", "Okay. I'm not, I'm not very good at remembering the, uh", "The titles and artists.", "titles, yeah, but I can remember this, the song. Yeah.", "do you watch music television, M T V at all? Or V H One?", "No, I do n't watch T V much at all.", "D, do, do you get cable? Oh, okay. That's, that's you have to get cable to get those stations anyhow. But, uh, yeah. I like to watch rock and roll videos and any kind of videos. I like watching that kind of thing. It's,", "Do you like, uh, like someone recent? Like Enya? Have you ever head of her. She's not rock but", "No, I have n't heard her.", "she, she's from Ireland. And, uh, she's gotten some, uh, she's been on like the top ten, I guess, or whatever."]}
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{"turn_id": ["4320_0", "4320_1", "4320_2", "4320_3", "4320_4", "4320_5", "4320_6", "4320_7", "4320_8", "4320_9", "4320_10", "4320_11", "4320_12", "4320_13", "4320_14", "4320_15", "4320_16", "4320_17", "4320_18", "4320_19", "4320_20"], "speaker_role": ["Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1"], "utterance": ["So how serious is the, subject of crime in your area?", "Well, needless to say, here in Washington, D C this is the war zone. Uh, D C around here stands for drug capital or death capital. It's, uh, it's really bad here. Uh, for example, the, uh, local high school, uh, they've already found two students with sawed off shotguns and they're starting to, uh, get these hand held metal detectors so they can inspect the kids every morning when they come to school, of all things. So,", "Well, luckily, it has n't gotten that bad here. Uh, San Jose actually has a pretty good record in terms of being relatively low on violent crime. Uh, but it's on the uprise, especially in a lot of the, uh, outlying agricultural towns. Uh, because you end up having a lot of gangs forming, uh, largely around the Hispanic core. Uh, it seems to be that, uh, gang warfare follows very rapidly on the heels of poverty conditions.", "Uh huh, right. That's how they, uh, they bind themselves together in groups, I guess and, uh, Now, the, interestingly enough, I do n't think we have here, a, a lot of gangs, but, uh, only a couple, uh of, not a whole large group of them, but, uh, just a few. Most of them centered around, uh, drug territory. And so they're protecting their economic interests, I guess. And, uh, nowadays the latest thing I've, I've read about in the paper here that they're doing as far as, uh, crimes involving stealing cars is that, instead of stealing, uh, cars like at night, breaking into them or whatever, they will pick out a car that they want and wait until you show up, and then as you get out of the car, they just, uh, step up and, uh, take the keys off of you and drive the car away and leave you standing in front of your house.", "Well, that's efficient.", "Yeah, that's the, uh, latest thing. That way there's no damage to the car or anything. They just wait for you to show up after they've picked out which one they want.", "They're decided they're completely unworried about being identified or anything of that sort.", "Right. Just wait for you to drive to your house, you get out and they get in off they go with your car. So it's, uh, I think they call it car jacking around here", "Yeah, yeah, I'd heard that phrase.", "Uh huh, yeah, that's kind of the latest thing, but every year in the D C area it gets progressively worse as far as the number of homicides, so it's, uh, it's unfortunate that we feel sometimes even that we have to bring our kids up in this area because we're not from around here, we're from, uh, I'm from Ohio and my wife's from Florida so, And we've just come from twenty years in the military and, uh, which is an entirely different environment, so this is a whole new thing for for us to, to have to put up with and it's, uh, really scary sometimes.", "Yeah, there are n't that many, places that are safe from that sort of thing nowadays.", "Right. And it's pretty bad when they're using metal detectors in school and, uh, of course, the mayor, uh, of D C is having a real problem, uh, trying to, what do you do to, to reduce crime in a, in a major city like D C where it's a way of life for everybody. It's, uh, I would hate to have to wrestle with that problem. I do n't know what, what the solution is. Uh, there's no way they can stop the drugs, and that's what's causing all the killing.", "there's a couple of things that I've heard, uh, most of them are fairly, uh, radical in terms of what you'd have to do. Uh, course the, the reason that, that these kids tend to, to turn toward the drugs and everything else s, seems to be just, you know, the, the, the end results of, of poverty and, and parents that are n't doing any parenting and everything else because, I mean, you know, the parents are n't making a living at anything.", "And they see all their friends and neighbors, uh,", "And they're accidental parents half the time anyway.", "Yeah, and their friends are driving Mercedes and, so it's actually, they grow up with that as their way of life and, uh, I think, uh, to a large extent, they do n't understand the concept that what they're doing is actually illegal because this is the way they were raised.", "It's illegal, but it's not wrong because all their friends do it.", "Right exactly, so maybe it's the law that wrong in their eyes and they they say, well, it's, it's the law that's, uh, got to be changed instead of their way of life, so, I do n't know, it's I'm glad it's not the kind of problem I have to come up with an answer to because it's not", "I think that the drug thing would actually be relatively easy to solve in terms of, of an actual solution to the problem. Uh the, the social, the other social problems would n't, would n't go away.", "They've always been with us.", "I mean, there's, there's been a lot of, uh, and I used to think that this whole argument was completely bogus, but then, the more I thought about it, the more sense it made, is that, uh, alcohol is as bad a drug as anything else. Uh, and prohibition did n't stop it and did n't do anything really"]}
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{"turn_id": ["4341_0", "4341_1", "4341_2", "4341_3", "4341_4", "4341_5", "4341_6", "4341_7", "4341_8", "4341_9", "4341_10", "4341_11", "4341_12", "4341_13", "4341_14", "4341_15", "4341_16", "4341_17", "4341_18", "4341_19", "4341_20", "4341_21", "4341_22", "4341_23", "4341_24", "4341_25", "4341_26", "4341_27"], "speaker_role": ["Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2"], "utterance": ["Okay, looks like we're ready to go. Capital punishment, uh, the problem I have with capital punishment is that, uh, uh, it's supposed to be a deterrent to crime, but I do n't think that it really actually does that. I do n't think it deters anybody, because most of the time crimes are, uh, are committed with a, without any thought to the consequences and they do n't think that, uh, stop and think and say, well, maybe I should n't do this, uh, because, uh, I might get the gas chamber or something like that. They worry about it afterwards and then they try and get out of it. And, uh, how about you", "Well, I think that in some cases, it is warranted.", "Uh huh, I do, too, yep.", "And I do n't, I think in some cases it does n't matter if it's a deterrent or not.", "Uh huh, yeah, you still have to do it. I,", "I mean, I'm thinking of an extreme case like a serial murderer", "So you're in, you're in favor of capital punishment, then.", "Well, for some things. I think for serial murder it is warranted because if a person who would do something like that in cold", "Needs to be punished or, uh, eliminated from society.", "you ca n't guarantee that they would n't escape", "And then do it all over again.", "and do it again. And I do n't think that, that rehabilitation is effective.", "Right. Have to agree with you, and I'm kind of i, in favor of capital punishment also. I just do n't think that it acts much as a deterrent to these people because, uh, you still see them committing the same crimes, but, I tend to agree with you that, uh, we should have it I just, I do n't know that it's always effective but I guess we, uh, we're kind of stuck with it. It's, it's a difficult, uh, problem, is n't it, to determine how you're going to punish somebody for a particular crime, uh,", "But, then, you know, I think that, that some murderers do n't really warrant capital punishment. just, like, for example, uh, you know, you hear about cases where women have killed their husbands who abused them", "Right, uh huh.", "and I do n't think, that would really warrant capital punishment.", "Uh huh, huh. Do you think they should be punished at all, or, uh, like go to prison, uh, because they're not really a danger to society. It was almost really self defense, is n't it, in a case like that.", "Uh it is to a certain extent but I think, I do n't know because,", "I know they put, uh, put them in jail sometimes, I guess. Uh,", "I think in s, and it, just would depend upon the circumstances and, and the extent of the abuse and, and if another alternative was", "Uh huh. You know, now, I wonder what you think about this and, uh, unfortunately, we, we do n't get to do it, but, uh, it used to be a long time ago, I guess in Biblical times when they had punishment if somebody did something, for example, to your family, then you had the right to administer the punishment. So if somebody killed somebody in your family then you had the right to, uh, if that person was caught and found guilty, you had the right to, uh, execute that person. And I know that, uh, if somebody had done something to my family, I would feel that I had the right to, to get revenge on them and, uh, but, I, I do n't think that's done much anywhere That's kind of drastic punishment.", "Well, I think that would be kind of drastic punishment.", "Might make you feel better but", "But, one thing, I think that if there is a chance for rehabilitation then that chance sh, should be investigated. But, like I said, if, if someone is, is just pathologically going to murder people no matter what then I think they should be eliminated from", "Right, because they're a danger to everybody else. Huh, that's interesting. I have to, uh agree with that. There's a lot of folks, probably, that are in prison that, uh, that are n't really a danger to society, huh, and, uh,", "And a lot of people that are a danger to society that are n't in prison.", "Right, probably more of them then the other way around Interesting. I do n't, I do n't, not sure I, I'm in Washington, D C or at least very close to it. I'm not sure what kind of, uh, capital punishment we have here.", "Well, I know in North Carolina, we do have capital punishment."]}
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{"turn_id": ["4688_0", "4688_1", "4688_2", "4688_3", "4688_4", "4688_5", "4688_6", "4688_7", "4688_8", "4688_9", "4688_10", "4688_11", "4688_12", "4688_13", "4688_14", "4688_15", "4688_16", "4688_17"], "speaker_role": ["Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2"], "utterance": ["Well, we, in, in, in our family, have been pretty remiss in trying to, uh, you know, keep track of, uh, daily finances. Uh, the, uh, way back, what, twelve years ago or something when I got my first computer, I did what everybody else does, which is to put the whole family budget on the machine and put checks, and, you know, checkbooks and all this kind of thing and we kept that going for about a month and it became so onerous that we gave up on it", "Uh huh. That sounds about right", "You know, so, uh, the only thing we're, you know, that we do now is, uh, I keep a, a little spread sheet of, uh, what I call the net worth calculation which is just the, the present value of various kinds of investments and so worth. Uh, and I only update that, oh I do n't know, maybe once every quarter or so. Every three months. Just, basically when the statements come in. You know. Just to see whether or not we're falling, you know, getting ahead, falling behind or staying even or what. Uh, that's really about, you know, the extent of, uh, of the kind of, uh, financial score keeping that we're doing.", "Well it's kind of difficult for me. Because right now, uh, like most teachers, I'm laid off and", "Huh. Oh dear, that's terrible.", " so, um, I spend most, you know, I substitute a lot. So it's a lot, it's very hard on a nonfixed income because I do n't know how many days I'm going to be called in and whether I am or not, to try to keep track of finances. And, but I know how much I have to bring in a month And that's about it. That's about as far as we go. And then anything extra is, you know, more or less split up between all of us. And just thrown in the kitty, more or less, for a rainy day", "Oh, I see. Are you, are you married? Are you living with a bunch of, with, with people that you're sharing expenses?", "Uh, no. I'm a single mother. I have three children.", "Oh, I see, uh huh.", "So, uh, right now, we're on, we get f, you know, aid from the state at this point because there's no other way to do it. And my ex husband just sort of took off and does n't pay child support So right now I know what I'm getting from the state and, uh, I have to balance, more or less, what I get from the state with my bills and, uh, you know, try to work as many days as possible. Any time they call me in. But I still have to figure out. If I work too many days, then I lose all my state aid and if I do n't work enough days then I do n't get enough to meet the bills and it's like a juggling act every single month. Like this week I've been just holding my breath and hoping they'll call me in but they probably wo n't because next week the kids have school vacation. So, you know, the four days before, they only have a four day week and they usually do n't need subs because everybody's pretty good about coming in", " A, oh, I see.", "They do n't like to be absent before a vacation. But we're shopping around as far as, well I'm shopping around as far as trying to get, uh, that's why I'm doing this, to get some extra money. And, uh, getting pledge sheets for the Boy Scouts. My kids are in Boy Scouts so trying to get pledge sheets for the Boy Scouts because every penny I bring in is ten percent to me. So it's sort of helps defray the costs a little bit. But, you know, we do a lot of robbing Peter to pay Paul. I guess we're in the situation that a lot of am, middle class Americans are in.", "Uh huh. Yeah, you're the first, you know, uh, my next door neighbor just lost his job.", "Oh, my Lord.", "In a, you know, one of these, uh, his company went broke. I mean went, you know, bankrupt. Actually, it was a subsidiary of a, of an outfit called U S Shoe or something. I, i, it was a computer subsidiary. I do n't know what a shoe company's doing running a computer company. But, uh, you know, they just folded it up and, uh, uh, told him to, they took the top management and gave them jobs with the, with the corporate, uh, at the corporate front office and everybody else was sent packing. Uh, hang on one second I've got uh, ( ( ) ) somebody was knocking on my door here. Uh, it sounds like, in a certain sense, at least at the present, I mean, it sounds, sounds terrible to say, but at the present stage, you probably are even more in the market for a, a budgetary thing than, than most people probably ar, might be. In terms of keeping, keeping score of input and output.", "Uh huh. Definitely.", " Do you have, do you have a computer at home or,", "Uh, yes we do. And we try to, you know, I keep track of every penny. And, more or less, enter it in. Every single day I'm at the computer. And, it's like, okay, what do we have left, what do we have to pay, what have we paid this month. What has n't come in yet, you know"]}
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{"turn_id": ["2451_0", "2451_1", "2451_2", "2451_3", "2451_4", "2451_5", "2451_6", "2451_7", "2451_8", "2451_9", "2451_10", "2451_11", "2451_12", "2451_13", "2451_14", "2451_15", "2451_16", "2451_17", "2451_18", "2451_19", "2451_20", "2451_21", "2451_22", "2451_23", "2451_24", "2451_25", "2451_26", "2451_27"], "speaker_role": ["Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2"], "utterance": ["Okay, this topic is, is Russia a threat to our security? I think they are more of a threat to their own people at this day and time. how do you feel about it?", "Well, they do have, uh, a major internal problem Everybody wants to defect, and I can understand why. Um, I think their biggest problem is just, you know, obtaining food to live, so when you have the basic needs, uh, being unmet I do n't think you think globally as far as, you know, being a threat to other people in the world. So, as soon as they get their, their own home country taken care of, then they'll consider, what they can do with the rest of the world.", "I believe Communism is very much waning It's, uh, pretty much on the way out of the door, insofar as the strong hold that they used to have, and the Russian people are all realizing that the Communist system does not work to their satisfaction or their way of surviving in this world, and their rebellions right now is the result of that If they can get the army, or the military to sway to their side, I think that, uh, it will be on the way out eventually. It's just a matter of time, because, in the Baltic States they have already massacred so many people who protested, and that has n't set too well with their diplomacy for the, regarding the, uh, outcome of their affairs What's your synopsis?", "Well, I do, I do realize that, uh, uh, the Bush Administration is n't too happy with, with how they're handling their internal, uh, strife, you know, as far as diplomacy is concerned I think it's been a good, a good positive direction for uh, the Soviets as far as Yeltsin is concerned. You know, he was, uh, allowed to, what, wh, in his, in the Congress they, they gave him more power as far as his republic in Russia is concerned, which is, gives him more power overall, which I think is a good sign that there will be some, you know, politically speaking, you know, he's going to have more power, and I think it's a step in the right direction. I think Gorbachev realizes that he's got a, a major uh, uh, power figure, you know, competing against him, and I think it's going to be pretty close to his demise if he does n't follow suit with Yeltsin as far as, uh, realizing, well, he does realize it, you know, with the fact that they reduced the uh, or they, increased the prices on their food, food and goods.", "I think that it went up a thousand percent on most,", "It, yeah. Tha, that's incredible but they had to, uh, go in the direction of a market driven economy, and, and they had to bite the bullet for that. So that's a good move on, on Gorbachev's part in doing that.", "but Gorbachev has still not fully convinced everyone that, he's moving towards a two to three party system of government that, nor eliminating or diminishing the Communist power, and I guess that's where Yeltsin steps in, so far as his politics of government goes, uh, but I do n't know how convinced the people are of him yet, myself.", "Well, that's all they got right now. That's their ray of hope. So, you know, they'll go with you know, whoever comes through for them. I, it, it's just that, the weird thing is, is that Gorbachev is the one that opened the floodgates, as far as with glasnost and poistro, perestroika and stuff, and I think he's got between the Old Guard and, in background > >, and the new, uh, glasnost. Uh, I think it's kind of escalated to a point where it's out of control. And I think he had to pull in the reins the only way he knew how, in order to keep the peace on, peace on both sides. So I think that's where you know, kind of where he's stuck. You know what I'm saying?", "Yeah. Uh, I understand.", "And that's the, that's the situation that he finds himself in, and you know, he's a tough guy, I mean, he's been through it So I have no doubt that he'll, I mean, I, I think overall he's been a, a good figure for the Soviet Union. I mean, I think his intentions and his ideals are, are uh, well intentioned. And in the long term, but I just think that because of the basic needs that the people do n't have, I think that, uh, makes the problem most severe, and makes him look, look worse that what his, um, what his ideals are,", "I agree. What's bad for the Soviet system is that they have the resources to grow and produce their food, but somehow it just does not get out to the market the way it should.", "I think it's, I think it's a lot of, uh, oh, how do you put it? bureaucracy and, and, uh, one thing, and then all the corruption. I think there's a, a large amount of corruption on the, the have and the have nots.", "Yeah That's probably more true than,", "You know, I", "a lot of people realize.", "I know you're going to have that with every society. At least we're more blatant about it, but it's very secret, and it's been going on for years. I mean, you ca n't change things overnight. And, but if it gets to a point where people ca n't survive, I mean, there's revolution. You know, and that's", "It seems to be headed in that direction too.", "Yeah big time major but you know, that's, that's what happens when, you know, the cork blows and you ca n't handle it anymore. I mean, that's that's the way the world, uh, you know, revolves that way", "and uh, I think that was a big stepping stone for them to initiate all their righteous ways of changing things, too. They, probably not enough, but I'm sure I lot of it's filtered down enough to the common folks that they have gotten wind of what they're missing out on.", "Yeah, I think they're starting to realize, but I, I just do n't think they have the resources, if you were to compare, uh, the Americans to the Soviets as far as home computers are concerned or fact machines, Fax machines and cellular phones, and state of the art equipment that we are so used to. I do n't think they even realize what's out there, and to what extent.", "Yeah, I'm sure a lot of them are missing those household items", "Yeah, the major conveniences of life", "Yeah what we consider just, I do n't normal everyday things to them is real luxury. Which is unfortunate for them, and of course, most of us, we do n't really appreciate what we've got because we've been so used to it.", "This is true. This is very true. And we, it's human, it's human nature though to take things for granted and it kind of, you know, when you've lost something or, or uh, uh, do n't have what other people have that's when you tend to realize, you know, what's out there and what, you know, what you have and what you do n't have.", "Yeah I agree", "So the original question, do we think they're a threat to our, you know, a security threat? Um, yes and no.", "Yeah, I can go with that answer too The only yes I could go to is if uh, a renegade crew decides to launch an attack or an accidental launching or something to that effect to, to a nuclear exchange, but I do n't even see that occurring. Uh, because their internal strifes are more important right now than concentrating on any kind of outside affairs that they used to be ( ( adapted ) ) to I guess.", "Well, I do n't really feel that the Soviets really want to blow up the world. I mean, um, we painted them back in the fifties and sixties as, as nonfeeling machine type people, and they're people just like us. I mean"]}
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{"turn_id": ["3902_0", "3902_1", "3902_2", "3902_3", "3902_4", "3902_5", "3902_6", "3902_7", "3902_8", "3902_9", "3902_10", "3902_11", "3902_12", "3902_13", "3902_14", "3902_15", "3902_16", "3902_17", "3902_18", "3902_19", "3902_20", "3902_21", "3902_22", "3902_23", "3902_24", "3902_25", "3902_26", "3902_27", "3902_28", "3902_29"], "speaker_role": ["Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2"], "utterance": ["Okay. Well why do n't you start cause it said I was suppose to ask you what do you,", "Do you have any elderly relatives currently in an, uh, nursing home now?", "Yes, I do.", "Do you? I have a grandmother. She's a hundred and two.", "Oh my gosh.", "She'll be a hundred and three in August. And we decide not to put her in a nursing home. She lives with my mother and my father who also live here in town and then my sister takes care of her. She, even though she is a hundred and two, she still has all of her faculties. She still has her snap. She takes care of her own business. This is the first year that she has gotten weak and actually has to have a little walker, but with somebody that needs around the clock care, I have seen my family age. I have seen them in the, she's been there ten years now. And I have seen them age twenty in the time and, and with the expense and everything, I th, I still think it is worth it if you, if you had a good nursing home and they needed some quality care, I would put someone in a nursing home.", "My mother in law finally. They had to make a family decision. There's seven children in my husband's family and fortunately four of them live in the same home town and she has Alzheimer's. It was getting where she was getting th, dangerous. I mean letting strangers in and things like this, but they were very fortunate. It's a small town and she happens to room with one of the doctor's mothers and", "Oh, well that's good.", "then she's got a lot of family there and that go and see her all of the time but she really does n't. Nobody thought she would adjust, but she has adjusted beautifully.", "Oh, that is great.", "But then I am also facing my father who is very sick and my mother and father reside in Colorado. She's been taking care of him. I do n't know how much longer this can last and at that point because he requires round the clock. He ca n't do anything without her. He does n't know when to take his medicine and it's really sad and I have thought if something would happen to my mother for, uh, my brothers are not interested in helping me so I would have to move him down here. That way, I want to see the nursing home. If I have to put him into one. You know, where I can go see it. I, I'd be very uncomfortable with him being in Colorado. And,", " Oh, why yeah. I am sure you have got some really good nursing homes around Dallas.", "Yes. And some of them are limited care too where people can do, uh, like they have apartment styles, but that would n't work for him. I think he is beyond that. Where if you need help you can get it, but basically people kind of have a small apartment and doctors are available if they need them.", "Uh huh. I, I know a lady that lives in a place similar to that in Austin.", "Yeah. Well, the only problem with these are that they are very expensive. Of course, I guess all nursing homes there is but,", "And the bad thing about it, before you can get any kind of government help, you just practically have, well you have to be a pauper. It, it takes every penny. They want you to spend every dime you have before the government will pay for your your care. And that's the sad part about it.", "Yeah. I, uh, yeah, and I think a lot of people who do it now. In Colorado it's interesting. I talked to my mother. They allow you sixty five thousand dollars and your car and your home. And my mother could make it on that. What she probably would do is disburse the money to me and then I would send it back to her so that's what would happen.", "Uh huh. I think that's what most people do. You just have to give it, everything away.", "Yeah. It's unfortunate.", " I, I work at a brokerage firm and I have seen so many people that just have to gift, you know, their belongings as much as they can each year in anticipation of having to move to a nursing home.", "Yeah. It's frightening. And I guess, uh, I do n't know how old you are. I'm forty six. You know, we're the generation moving into this and I do n't know how our kids are going to take care of us.", "I ca n't imagine. I'm twenty nine. And everybody in my family has always had, we do n't have any children. Everybody that has, has them later in life. So, my, my mother and my father are in their late sixties. So, I mean, they're not that far away.", "I also see on my generation a squeeze between looking to having to help my parents and still having to help my son because things are so rough out there job wise and he's still living at home and I do n't know how he is ever going to get on his own the way things are.", "Oh, I know.", "And so, it's kind of, you feel squeezed in the middle of having both generations, but it, something will have to change as more and more of us get older. Uh, luckily, if we could be like your grandmother, I, uh you know, I would love to live to a hundred and two if I were okay. But", " It, but yeah.", "you see these people in their seventies", "Most people are n't.", "yeah, most are n't. That's the problem.", "And that's the bad thing. I would hate to have lived so long. She lived by herself. My grandfather passed away before I was born so she lived by herself up until she was ninety, ninety one."]}
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{"turn_id": ["4096_0", "4096_1", "4096_2", "4096_3", "4096_4", "4096_5", "4096_6", "4096_7", "4096_8", "4096_9", "4096_10", "4096_11", "4096_12", "4096_13", "4096_14", "4096_15", "4096_16", "4096_17"], "speaker_role": ["Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2"], "utterance": ["Uh, the other day, I attended a conference here at Utah State University on recycling and, uh, I was kind of interested to hear cause they had some people from the E P A and lots of different places and, uh, they had basically decided that there is going to be a real problem here within a few years on solid waste.", "Uh, I did n't think that was a new revelation.", "Well, it's not too new.", "Right. So, what what is the E P A recommending now?", "Oh, they really did n't propose any solutions. Actually, they were, the guy was pretty negative about the things that the government was doing even though he was from the E P A. But, he had a lot of, uh, facts to, to give and, uh, things like how many solid waste plants were being shut down and, and, uh, one of the most interesting things that he was talking about was recycling of, of news print. He was talking about, uh, the City of New York and how they went and collected all this news print and they could sell it for a while. They were able to sell it for some amount per ton and now at this stage of the game where they have gotten into recycling, they've collected so much news print that they have to pay to have it hauled away.", "Right. That's a, that's a common problem though. That it seems, that has happened in Dallas as well as New York and I try to recycle all of the newspapers that come to my house and after a while I just quit taking the newspaper because I could n't recycle it anymore which is n't good for business on the other end either, I suppose.", "Yeah. We're doing some here in, in Cash Valley, the community here. There's, uh, we've actually got a kind of a nice set up. We've got a couple of plants here that actually take, uh, recycled paper and shred it and spray it with chemical treatment so that it's not a fire hazard and make it into insulation and they can actually use as much recycled paper as the community can get to them. Because they are actually buying it and shipping it in from outside.", "Well, that's good.", "So one of the real keys, it sounds like, to getting recycling for, uh, paper or something like that to go is to get some sort of business to actually want it once you have collected it.", "Right. There has to be, uh, a reuse for it. I mean, that's why they recycle. The one I think is the most interesting is with the recycled bottles and all that, uh, the industry seems to be doing with the recycled polymers. Uh, everything from, uh, waste baskets to carpet to the no stick, I mean the sticky slide rugs under the carpet and, uh, I think they are even putting it in the roadways these days and they're making clothes now that are recycled. Like the recycled plastic coke bottles and and milk cartons and things like that.", "And there was a paper presented at this conference from a guy from Alabama and he was kind of hired to do a study by two departments for the government. One was like, environmental protection and the other one was, oh, I ca n't remember what, but the basic idea, it was presented to him was how can we maximize the amount of energy that we can get back from recycling and minimize the volume of stuff that we are putting into our landfill and, uh, the solution that he came up with for plastics, and it was really quite amazing, he says, well the best thing to do with plastics is to burn them. He came to the conclusion, plastics is actually one of the biggest problems in landfills cause it's, it's low weight, but it's high volume so it takes up a lot of space and there's almost no energy, there's very little energy value in actually doing a lot of the recycling, but there is a lot of energy in it if you can burn it and use it, produce electricity. So his solution was to burn plastic. Collect it and burn it.", "Well, it's carbon so that makes sense, like a carbon fuel of some sort, but", "And it's more than even paper or something like that. There is more energy in it per pound or whatever.", " what about emissions?", "Well that was he did n't deal with that. He just said burn it. He did n't talk about cleaning it up or anything like that. So it's not very practical ( ( ) ).", "No. Well it's interesting. I bet that was a good day, at the yeah, conference then.", "Yeah, well, real interesting.", "Did it change anything for you?"]}
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{"turn_id": ["4133_0", "4133_1", "4133_2", "4133_3", "4133_4", "4133_5", "4133_6", "4133_7", "4133_8", "4133_9", "4133_10", "4133_11", "4133_12", "4133_13", "4133_14", "4133_15", "4133_16", "4133_17", "4133_18", "4133_19", "4133_20", "4133_21", "4133_22", "4133_23", "4133_24"], "speaker_role": ["Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1"], "utterance": ["So, uh, you know, my feeling is that, uh, it's really being used today, it, it, you know, it, it really is n't doing any real good purpose for anything because it's not cost effective because of the amount of time the people end up waiting on appeal.", "Right, I think I've seen some statistics that say that, uh, it's more expensive to kill somebody than to keep them in prison for life.", "Right because y, you, you've got all, all the prison expenses, plus all the legal expenses. Uh, and, you know, it certainly does n't seem to be a deterrent. Uh, for one thing because it's used so infrequently and for another thing because I honestly do n't think the people that are committing the c, crimes that would be eligible, you know, really care.", "Well, that's, committing them mostly is, you know, either crimes of passion or at the moment or they think they're not going to get caught or,", "Right, I mean, it's kind of like the AIDS phenomenon, you know, I'm invulnerable, I do n't need to care about this. You know, I, I, I'm never going to get caught.", "Yeah, but you also have to think whether it's worthwhile on the individual basis, for example, someone like, uh, Jeffrey Dahlmer, do you want, by putting him in prison for life, there is still a possibility that he will get out again.", "Yeah, one, one way or another.", "if you kill him, there is not that possibility.", "Yeah, but, but the other side to that is, if you put him in prison for life, there's a chance that he might do things in prison, or, you know, and somehow redeem himself.", "Yeah, I do n't think he could ever redeem himself, but in some cases, yes.", "You know, so that, you know, the, the question is, you know, the other qu, problem with capital punishment you run into is, what are you going to do about people who are later to have been found innocent, you know? There are cases where, you know, twenty, thirty years after the fact of getting evidence, especially as new technology comes along that might prove their innocence, then, oops, I'm sorry, guess we killed the wrong guy.", "Yeah, it's, it's, yeah, once you've made a decision that way, it's a little difficult to go back on it.", "Right, you, you can apologize nicely, but, you know, you know, I think, you know, the, the price, you know, it, I've heard quotes, you know, it's better that a thousand people go free, than one person be unjustly imprisoned. I think i, is really the, the philosophy of the way our legal system works.", "Oh, yeah, yeah, it's a, the benefit of the doubt to the last iota is, uh, based on the, uh, person who is accused.", "Yeah, and, you know, the, I, I think that, you know, and the way it's being used now, it's like you listen to Bush is, you know, well, where are we going to impose d, you know, it's like for drug dealers is the new big thing like in, Tsongas is also saying, you know, capital, make it a capital crime to be a major drug dealer. And, again, I do n't thing these people care. * typo replace thing with thinkThey risk their lives every day.", "Yeah, and, there, there, they seem that the profit marg, uh, drug dealers, the profit margin's so high that, yeah the, the risk is almost not there.", "Yeah, and, and, you know, uh, especially, now, I live in, in Massachusetts, you know, w, w, we're going to get capital punishment here probably after the second coming or something. So, you know, but you look at our, our crime rates and things like that and you compare them to, to like Texas or someplace that does, you know, it, it, it's impossible to make a case that it's, it's affecting it in any way. I think it's mainly, people, like, they get the vengeance of it. Because, you know,", "it's also, I used to live in Georgia and, you know, the, the big thing down there was, all right, we have capital punishment, but if you look at who gets accused and who are the ones who actually get executed, it's very racially related and ethnically related,", "it's mainl, lot of blacks. Also a lot of young people. You know, a, a, a sixty two year old guy is less likely to be put on death row from what I've seen. And, you know, I, I think when you listen to like the, uh, the, the victims' families and things, they're always talking about, you know, uh, feeling justified or feeling, you know, like they've gotten something out of it, I mean, my thought has been, once the guy has been imprisoned, if he goes to jail forever or whatever, if he gets killed, it should n't make any difference to the, uh, the victim's family. The only thing that should really, I mean, obviously, if someone of mine who has close died, I'd probably feel differently, but you know, th, you know, what, the important thing is that they be caught and not be a danger to society.", "Right and that, and, you know, also by keeping them in prison, you do have the possibility, though, we do n't currently do this, of making restitution.", "Right, ( ( I mean, the ) ),", "You, you will work your prison job and any money you earn will go to the victim's family.", "Right and, the, the other thing is that, you know, I was reading through a book on, uh, geneo, human geneo research and there, more and more things like schizophrenia and why, does it just turn out to be genetic or biochemical in origin. So if someday we can go to Jeff Dahlmer and say, well, the problem is you, you've got an endorphin imbalance and, you know, if you take this regularly, you'll be a sane and productive member of society you know, you really get back to the question of, you know, is someone responsible for their actions.", "Yeah, well, I, I think on some of it, you have to say someone's responsible for his actions. I never like the, uh,", "Society made me do it."]}
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{"turn_id": ["4152_0", "4152_1", "4152_2", "4152_3", "4152_4", "4152_5", "4152_6", "4152_7", "4152_8", "4152_9", "4152_10", "4152_11", "4152_12", "4152_13", "4152_14", "4152_15", "4152_16", "4152_17", "4152_18", "4152_19", "4152_20", "4152_21", "4152_22"], "speaker_role": ["Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1"], "utterance": ["Well, anyway I, uh, I, uh, oh, yeah. I did forget to ask you. What is your name by the way?", "Uh, I'm Ann.", "Oh, you're Ann. Hi. But, uh, anyway, I, uh, lot of, lot of interesting procedural things I think would be a good, be a good change if we're going to be talking about the subject t, tonight which in some I guess criminal courts the", "Criminal courts? Yes.", " Yeah. Th, the one of which was, uh, something, something that's been going on because of the Rodney King trial here in town and that is, uh, and that is the exclusion of jurors because of or in spite of their race. Uh, Yeah. Well, they, they, uh, the, the people that ( ( ) ) the, uh, the jury that's trying, uh, the officers in that case, is, is an all white panel. And there's been a lot made in the local papers of that,", "I ca n't, I'm a little surprised they did n't get a change of venue on that one.", "They have. They have. They moved it up to the county north of here. Um, it's in Ventura and there's, there's still quite a bit of publicity obviously, and it's kind of, it's kind of debatable whether you could get a fair trial almost anywhere because that, uh, that,", "Well, that videotape was just horrible.", "Yeah. It was everywhere. So you know, and I, I think it would be very difficult to find someone, uh, find a panel that would be, not have seen it and, and known of what was going on.", "Oh, I agree with you but I ca n't imagine that they would do an all white jury without having some sort of, of discrimination or, or, you know, uh, appeal on not having a jury of his peers and all of that kind of stuff.", "Exactly. You know, um, the you know, I, I'm kind of torn on this issue. It's like they're saying well on the one hand they're not, he's not getting a jury of his peers which is in some ways I think true. But on the other hand, it's, it's also saying that white jurors are not going to, are not going to convict. Uh, you know, they're not going to do their job. Which is the whole, the whole point of being on a jury is to convict or, or, or, uh, let go based on whether, or not the person, whether or not the evidence says,", " Based on fact. Right.", " that there's enough", "How interesting. Oh. So what's the prevailing thought within the community? I mean you know, what the news media is going to make of it, but what about the community?", "They, well, I guess it depends on who you talk to. I have n't talked to, uh, I have n't talked to a whole lot of black people on it but I, I rather imagine there's, there's some snickering about it. And a lot of the usually fatalistic, uh, here we go again folks, kind of stuff.", "Oh, my goodness. That ca n't be good for Los Angeles either.", "No, no. I, you know, on, on, on one hand you know, on the one hand you almost hope that they convict them because it's sm, they have that very strong piece of physical evidence showing, these people beating the heck out of this guy. Um,", "Unfortunately that kind of thing is not limited to a big city like Los Angeles. You're going to have it just about anywhere. But that's, that's interesting. What about the judge who's hearing the case? Is he going to be impartial? Is he going to, be a go, a good adjudicator?", "I do n't know. You know, and, and again there's something else tha, you know, there was a uh, something else along those lines. There was a girl out here named ( ( Latausha Harlins ) ). I do n't know if it's, it's got, it's got as much notoriety but it's rather almost as infamous here as it was, as it was with, uh, the Rodney King problem. Um, a girl walked into a Korean owned store and, uh, they, she had a dispute, black girl. She, she had some kind of a dispute over some orange juice with the, with the owner of the store. The owner of the store popped her. Yeah. And, and, oh, of course, they, you know, the criminal case went up and, and the judge gave the woman who shot her, shot the girl a, uh, uh, practically a suspended sentence. I mean it was", "Oh, my goodness.", "it was just, she gave her no time in jail, you know, all of these things and then, oh, there's we have these, we have people wondering around to, with petitions trying to get the judge,", "To get that judge recalled I would think. Huh. That's almost when you kind of wish that there where standardized sentences.", "Yeah. It would make, it would make life easier."]}
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{"turn_id": ["4166_0", "4166_1", "4166_2", "4166_3", "4166_4", "4166_5", "4166_6", "4166_7", "4166_8", "4166_9", "4166_10", "4166_11", "4166_12", "4166_13", "4166_14", "4166_15", "4166_16", "4166_17", "4166_18", "4166_19", "4166_20"], "speaker_role": ["Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1"], "utterance": ["Okay. Uh, before a couple of years ago, I had a, a very narrow view of, of nursing homes and it was, uh, more like a funeral home. I always joked around about it being a funeral home and not really a nursing home. And, uh, then I had to do some volunteer work here in Tyler, Texas and I went to one and it just had a very good activities director. Everyone was cheerful and now I do n't have such a bad view of nursing homes anymore. But I, I certainly would n't want to send my parent unless it was an absolute last re, resort. Uh, I have a sister that is in nursing school and she's real interested in geriatrics.", "Well, that sounds good.", "Yeah. So, uh, she, she's real interested in, uh, what Ann Richards has been doing. She's, Ann Richards is really cracking down on, uh, the nursing homes and, I do n't know, you would n't know anything about a Texas governor", "I've heard the name and that's about all it goes.", "Okay. Ann Richards is our governor in Texas and she's really cracking down on restrictions and what goes on in nursing homes. And, uh, my sister's real interested in that and, and getting into the, to that side of nursing.", "Yeah. That's one problem with the, the nursing home environment. It, the elderly, even out of the nursing home, are very open to abuse. Uh, you know, they do n't always have their full wits about them. They're not completely up on what should be going on or what's not going on. And it can be pretty sad. I've got a, had a grandmother who had a stroke. And she was in a nursing home for four or five years before she died. And, you know, it's the type of thing that she was living down in Florida. My in, families was up in Maryland and the other part of her family was up in, uh, New York state. And, you know, it was very difficult for either them or my grandfather to take care of her since she was, uh, you know, could not do very much for herself after the stroke. And, you know, the nursing home was the, you know, best facility to put her in. You know, besides moving her up which is not a practical solution since both my parents work and both my, uh, aunts and uncle work. Which means it's, you know, very difficult for some, you essentially need to have someone taking care of the person full time. And, you know, there's also a lot of medical problems that ca n't always be completely handled in the home. Which makes it, you know, it's a necessary evil I think.", "Uh huh. It sure is. And some of the really nice ones that really take care of their people are so expensive. Because cause they can afford to hire the people that are really going to care for the older.", "Yeah. And, you know, even there you have to watch out for, you know, you get one person who's a little bit dishonest working in there and, you know, the elderly sometimes have a lot of jewelry and other stuff that just very easily tends to disappear in the nursing homes.", "Right. My grandfather passed away several years ago. I was much younger. But, uh, he was in the nursing home the last several years of his life and someone visited him every day. My grandmother did. But, uh, if she could n't, someone visited him every day. It was in a very small town nursing home. And, uh, people did n't get paid much there at all. They did n't care about what went on. They would let a, let a patient get a lot of bed sores. And, uh, the, the people living in the nursing home would have all kinds of needs that would n't get met because they were just old people. And then, the nurses and doctors really did n't put any for, forth any loving care for them.", "Either that or they're just so understaffed that they ca n't afford to put in the, uh, care that they need. Cause it's, you know, an elderly person can, you know, it's like a newborn baby. You need to have twenty four hour care uh, answering all the needs cause they ca n't do much for themselves at certain points.", "Right. And nurses get so worn down.", "Uh huh. And, you know, there's a lot of, number of the elderly are very, you know, complaining because they remember the way that things used to be. And remember being able to do things for themselves which, you know, they no longer can.", "Oh, sure. And they feel", " And it, very, very hard for them to accept that.", "they feel pretty helpless.", "We just, uh, moved my grandfather into, not a nursing home but, you know, a transitional type facility.", "Is it, uh, like a retirement center?", "More of a retirement home. He's got his own efficiency apartment. And they provide one meal a day. And, you know, the rest of the housekeeping and other meals a day are up to him. But they do have, you know, group activities going on.", "How's he handling that?", "Uh, he'd much rather be living alone in his apartment down in Florida. Uh, you know, to move into that facility we moved him from Florida up to Maryland and it's, it's a bit of a shock to the system, weather wise, if nothing else.", "Oh, sure. There was n't anything like that, that you could do in Florida?"]}
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{"turn_id": ["4319_0", "4319_1", "4319_2", "4319_3", "4319_4", "4319_5", "4319_6", "4319_7", "4319_8", "4319_9", "4319_10", "4319_11", "4319_12", "4319_13", "4319_14", "4319_15", "4319_16", "4319_17"], "speaker_role": ["Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2"], "utterance": ["Uh, so, uh, what are your benefits like at your job, and how do you feel about them?", "Uh, pretty good, actually. I work for Hewlett Packard and they have, uh, a pretty good, uh, benefits package. In fact, they're, they're kind of known, uh, for having good benefits. The pay is n't fabulous, although I saw a survey recently and I'm actually making just about as much as, you know, I'm m, making actually over average, over the average", "Oh, that's good.", "for my career, my experience and all that stuff which kind of surprised me.", "What kind of a degree have you got?", "I've got a Bachelor's in electrical engineering so, And I'm not, like, a hugely advanced degree or any ( ( of that stuff ) ). Uh, anyway, the, our benefits are pretty good. We've got stock purchase program and a, that, that's pretty generous, although you have to hold the stock for two years before you get the company contribution which is, kind of a, a pain, but, uh, there's a four O one K plan uh, for, uh, sheltering some taxable income.", "How long have you been with them?", "I've been with them for seven years. And, the best thing, and a lot of the stuff, the best thing is like four years or five years, it's pretty soon, you're completely vested in the retirement plan and everything, so, uh, it's not t, but there's full, uh, th, there's several medical plans to choose from, uh, that cover pretty much everything. I do n't get sick that often, so I do n't pay much of it, b, and I pay five dollars every time I visit the, the hospital that, you know, for a checkup or whatever. Uh, they do n't cover eyes though, and I, I have contact lenses, so that's kind of a pain. But, you know, I", " But, for all", " I can live,", "practical purpose, you are almost a hundred percent covered.", "Oh, yeah, yeah.", "So that you've got small, small things to gripe about. Well, that sounds like you must feel really good about it.", "Yeah, yeah, and, and the dental plan is ( ( fabulous ) ). The dental plan, I pay absolutely nothing because, uh I, I guess they would charge a little bit if there was some orthodontia or something for one of my dependents or something like that that's not the case, so, I guess nothing. It's fabulous. Uh, the, what about you?", "Well, I, uh, work in Washington at the Naval Research Laboratory. I also have a part time job at a law firm and I get no benefits from them, ( ( at ) ) to the part time work although, they pay better per hour than my, my sort of, quote, real job does. Uh, and benefits, through the government are, uh, really, uh, they just, uh, they're not the greatest. Uh, I, before I, I, uh, uh, got my degree I'm, uh, c, a computer scientist and before I got my degree, I had, uh, done paralegal work for law firms here in Washington and, uh, at that time, I was in gravy city. Uh, the law firms in this town are not, you know, for a long time were just rolling in the dough in the early eighties and, uh, benefits were just amazing and we had everything paid for, and, uh, anyway, with the government, it's not, uh, quite that nice a deal. Uh, but it's, you know, it's, it's okay. What we have to do is, we have to pay, uh, about twenty percent of our, uh, uh, our costs and it's deducted from our check each month and that sort of thing, and the plans that are available to us, uh, range from kind of mediocre to really sweet and, uh, so I, I think I'm actually involved in a relatively good p, plan at this point. Uh, but, uh, it could be better, that's for sure, and, uh, but, you know the, there are other things that you get when you work for the government i, uh, in, in terms of, uh, more relaxed atmosphere. It's really nice to be, for me, anyway, to be able to work in, uh, a research atmosphere, uh, where I do n't have to, uh, uh, you know, worry about, uh, academics or anything like that, and, so I'm, I'm really kind of happy about that end of, of things. It's, uh,", "Yeah, one of the things with my company is that they've, uh, got a reputation for a lot of job security and, uh there's a lot of different things that they do, lot of different divisions even this area, in the San Francisco Bay Area that they do, so there's, I, myself have moved around quite a bit within the company and it's, and I, and I have n't had to move my residence to do that. You know, I still live in San Jose and,", "Wow, that's fabulous. You see, now that's, that's interesting, because I have a cousin whose husband works for Hewlett Packard up in the Massachusetts area. He, he lives in Andover and, uh, the work that he, he's, uh, specifically an engineer and, and does work with, uh, the Hewlett Packard machines that do, uh, uh, sonographic imagining and, uh, I've been over to see his complex over there and it's amazing. It's, it's all ecologically designed and, and, uh, he seems really, really happy with the, the set up.", "In fact, I know a guy who works at Andover who used to work, who I used to work with out here"]}
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{"turn_id": ["4333_0", "4333_1", "4333_2", "4333_3", "4333_4", "4333_5", "4333_6", "4333_7", "4333_8", "4333_9", "4333_10", "4333_11", "4333_12", "4333_13", "4333_14"], "speaker_role": ["Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1"], "utterance": ["Steve, uh, with the election year and whatnot coming up, do you think we ought to cut taxes, raise them, or, or, or what do you think?", "Well, that's, that's a really hard question. I do know that, uh, politicians always talking out of both sides of their mouths. Uh, I let's example, uh, our friend, the President, right now, says no new taxes, we should and especially, if anything, be cutting taxes now because of the recession and at the same time, the budget he sent to Congress has tax and fee increases, so, uh, I know the politicians, uh, are n't, are n't straightforward. Now, i, in terms of economics I'm not, it's hard, hard to call. It really is.", "Uh huh. See, I never thought really, it's, uh, I never really thought that, that the, the question really had to do whether or not we're paying too much or too little. I, I always that the, the real question was is, are we getting a reasonable return on, on investment. For instance, like Social Security tax or Soc, uh, I mean, that's, that's tax we're paying money and, and supposedly this money is going into some kind of fund so that when it comes our turn to retire, the money will be there for us. So that's, yeah, you know, when I, when I see that money taken out of my paycheck each, each week, I, or each, every other week, I, I really think that money's history and you know, so as far as return investment, that's not, that's nothing and we're not even going to get the exact same number of dollars back. Uh, someone was telling me that there is a, uh, uh, there's still an office in, uh, you know, staffed with, with people there and, in D C that are researching to find a cure for polio, which, I may be wrong, but I believe that the cure for polio is already founded, but, but supposedly once you have an office in D C, or, you know, and, and staff it with people, it's really tough to close it down and, and they just have n't yet.", "Well, yeah, I'm not exactly sure, uh, about polio in particular. I know we have a polio vaccine come will prevent somebody from getting polio I'm not sure if we know what to do in terms of curing some who has already gotten polio.", "Well, that might be the difference. I do n't know. Uh, the other thing that, uh, I remember seeing on T V lately is, uh, had to do with, it's like seventy five percent of the historical sites in America are in the home districts of very powerful people politically that, that histor, for some reason, historical sites with, you know, the, the full federal money and everything seem to appear as, as almost as like political favors to, to very strong politicians.", "Yeah, it's, it's, it's funny because, uh, it was one of the things that Bush is trying really hard to get ahold of is the line item veto where, uh, you know, Congress is able to attach all kinds of, uh, funny amendments for individual, uh, c, congressional districts to the, to the main budget proposals and the poor President has, has to, uh, either accept or reject the whole thing.", "So, it sounds like you, uh, you think that, that we'd be able to save some money by, uh passing the line item veto.", "I, I think the line item veto is not, not, is not necessarily a bad thing, assuming that the, uh, the, the President, uh, uses it to get rid of, uh, this kind of waste. On the other hand, uh, it, it assumes that you have lots of confidence in your President not to veto important things. Uh, and just to get rid of the unimportant things. And whenever there's that kind of subjective judgment, there's always going to be a dispute as to, uh, where the exa, where the boundary between waste and, and necessity is. So I'm not, I'm not sure that, that that will help solve our problems, but there definitely is, is a problem with, uh, I forgot, there's a political term for this stuff, pork barrel or something.", "Pork barrel politics.", "Pork barrel politics. The, the, there has to be some way to do it. I know state governors usually have line item vetos and, uh, I lived in Massachusetts for a while and, uh, when Dukakis vetoed certain things, there was a big uproar and was n't necessarily so popular.", "Yeah, but Massachusetts was n't, when Dukakis was there, anyway, was n't in that great shape financially.", "D, at least at the end.", "Uh huh. I mean, I do n't know, I,", "Yeah, i, i, they were very good at first, they were in very good financials at first and, uh, that's part of the reason he became a nominee is because things went so well. And then, of course, the bottom fell out.", "It's, uh, I mean, it's, it's tough. I mean, there's, there's two ways you can kind of go to get out of tough financial situations. I guess you can like raise taxes and then create like job programs and whatnot or you can hope that if people keep their money that they'll spend more and create jobs and, and whatnot."]}
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{"turn_id": ["4336_0", "4336_1", "4336_2", "4336_3", "4336_4", "4336_5", "4336_6", "4336_7", "4336_8", "4336_9", "4336_10"], "speaker_role": ["Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1"], "utterance": ["Uh, well, I'm not sure how it is in Georgia, but in, in Pittsburgh the r, the crime rate really is not very high at the moment. Is that, is that true for, for Atlanta?", "Atlanta is kind of high. Uh, it's, it's lower than it has been in the past. Uh, I guess nineteen ninety is when it start to drop off, and usually around the Christmas season is usually when the crime rate is a little bit higher.", "Yeah, I, that's probably not true only for Atlanta, but for just about anywhere.", "Yeah. Uh, what kind of crime problem do you usually run into? Any specifics", "Well, uh, the least, what, from what's on the news, uh, there are very few, like actual robberies reported, uh, uh, of, of residences. What's more likely to occur is, uh, robbery of, uh, you know, knocking over a, a small store or a car theft, you know, it, things of that nature. Very few, uh, assaults, although on the college campuses, uh, there are, uh, cases of, you know, like people getting machine from a, from an automated teller and, you know, somebody trying to, to device a scam for, for, uh, getting the money for them that actually preys mostly on foreigners. But mostly petty things and, n, no, nothing, nothing really too big.", "Right, well, I guess here we run into that sometime, but I guess a lot of crimes are done with apartment type break ins that type, not much home break ins. There are some, but not, not very high. Uh, as far as tellers and things like that, it's not extremely high either. There were one case where, uh, this one guy, uh, was taking women from the teller and, and, you know, making them give him money and stuff and then at the same time, raping them all, so, so that's kind of like a double assault there.", "Yeah, uh, a strange case that, uh, that happened, oh, it's about, about a year ago was someone actually stole a complete automated teller machine. It was a free standing machine and they backed up into it with a truck and put it on the back and drove away with it. Now, there's a crime for you.", "Yeah, there's a crime.", "Yeah, but, uh, I guess most of the things that happen around here are, are pretty, uh, innocuous. Although, uh, from what I hear in the news, and, and I, I s, saw an episode of the T V show, COPS uh, one time that was in Pittsburgh, and, uh, it, it, it did surprise me, because, you know, they were doing drug arrests and thing, and things like that, but I, I do n't really think those things happen too often because, like I said, from what's reported in the news, at least, it's, it's not all that common.", "Oh, okay. I do n't know, crime situations here, they, like I say, lot of, lot of cases is usually just apartments and, and break ins and things like that and a lot of it is due to drugs. Uh, drug related, you know, in, in most cases, it's not like, uh, it's someone do steal a, a or television or V C R or something like that it is for drugs, you know, because you really ca n't on the street make any money off of it per se, you know, you going to get ten or fifteen bucks for it so you really not making a sizeable profit. So it's not really lucrative to take chances like that, you know, even though it, it does exist.", "You know, I, just to diverge a little bit, uh, I live in an apartment. Right now I'm finishing out my last semester at the University of Pittsburgh and, uh, the apartment like would be very easy for just about anyone to break in But, even so, it, I mean, it's, it's still difficult for me to convince my apartment mates to, to like lock the doors when they go out you know, and things like Uh, it would be so easy for someone who is motivated to do so to just, you know, sit out back, take a look at when people are here and when they're not just come in, you know, there's a T V and a V C R and, they could, uh, they could get in pretty easy and, and especially, uh, since there are bedrooms upstairs and people leave the door open, you know, while they're upstairs playing music, it could still happen then."]}
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{"turn_id": ["4345_0", "4345_1", "4345_2", "4345_3", "4345_4", "4345_5", "4345_6", "4345_7", "4345_8"], "speaker_role": ["Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1"], "utterance": ["I, uh, get a lot of my news driving home from work listening to ALL THINGS CONSIDERED on national public radio. Uh, that is one of my big sources for current events information. Uh, I really like that coverage. My wife, uh, on the other hand is home most of the day and she watches a lot of the cable news network. Have you seen, uh, h, have you, uh, ever heard of ALL THINGS CONSIDERED?", "No, we do n't have the, uh, national public radio in, in my area. I can hear it at the, uh, uh, oh, the college town nearby when I'm in Stillwater, which is about an hour away, but the F M signal does n't reach this far. Uh, I'll listen to shortwave quite a bit. It gives you a whole different perspective on the news, uh, when you hear it from, say, a European point of view, or from the country of origin. Uh, I agree with you, too, on the, uh, uh, the cable channel, C N N and HEADLINE NEWS. Uh, I'm not too satisfied with our local newspaper uh, which is why I rely on shortwave and, and then the cable, cable, C N N.", "I'm, uh, interested in the, in the shortwave aspect of it. Uh, how do you find that the, the coverage from other places in the world uh, compares with the American coverage of, how do you think that, uh, the viewpoints differ?", "I think a lot of it is just, uh, the fact that in the U S you're so far removed, uh, in a lot of cases from, say, conflicts or, or it's not happening in your backyard so it's, it's more of a, it's not as a personal, uh, the news is n't as personal in what we receive domestically than, than what's on shortwave. It's, B B C is, uh, oh, I do n't know the right word, is, is almost, uh, they almost take all emotions out of it when they report it and it just, they seem to give more of just the facts than opinions.", "Do you think, then, that, uh, the American media is presenting an opinion along with their facts?", "Uh, very much so, very much so, and I, I think a lot of it is, uh, especially T V news, they do n't really have the time and a lot of them do n't have the education and the background to, uh, oh, to really decipher the news and to really explain it. I mean, I, you know, I think it's important to interpret it, but a lot of times the person does n't have the experience to, to do the interpreting.", "Uh huh. Which, uh, which approach do you find to be, uh, more useful, the, the interpretive approach or the straight reporting?", "Oh, I like the straight reporting. Uh, and then I, I hope to be able to form my own opinion of it. It's, it's nice to hear someone's interpretation of it uh, I always think it's humorous when, when the President gives the State of the Union and, uh, for thirty minutes and then for an hour and a half you hear different commentators explaining what you just heard. And a lot of time I do n't hear exactly what they, what they write into it. So I, overall, I think I would rather hear just straight reporting.", "One of the things that I found interesting last year during the, uh, the Gulf conflict was a sentiment against, uh, Peter Arnett, who had stayed in Iraq and was presenting, uh, some of the things that were available. Uh, there was a, there was, uh, a piece where he was showing a bombed out building where there was obviously a crudely, uh, uh, hastily erected sign saying baby milk factory, and while he was being severely, uh, censored and could not make any judgment call on this, it was fairly obvious that it was a piece of propaganda, but people were really down on him for reporting the fact that, th, you know, this is n't a baby milk factory, how could he say it was, uh, I, I think that, that to me showed that the Americans were really getting used to having the, not just the facts, but also the conclusions and opinions spoon fed to them."]}
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{"turn_id": ["4372_0", "4372_1", "4372_2", "4372_3", "4372_4", "4372_5", "4372_6", "4372_7", "4372_8", "4372_9", "4372_10", "4372_11", "4372_12", "4372_13", "4372_14", "4372_15"], "speaker_role": ["Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2"], "utterance": ["So, let's talk about the, uh, wonderful abuses in the State of Pennsylvania of personal property taxes whereby you can purchase something mail order and after the fact, the State of Pennsylvania can find out about it and send you a bill for the sales tax appropriate to that item that you purchased as well as interest and penalties from the time that you bought it. What do you think? Is Pennsylvania kind of out of line there?", "Well, actually, I do n't think they're out of line. De, Devil's advocate possibly, but it, you are trying to avoid paying taxes and whe, whether or not you agree with that law, i, you're still circumventing it. You are legal in, in your circumvention of that law.", "What, what if you're not doing it in order to circumvent the law though? I mean what if you do n't even realize that you're subject to paying, uh, income tax on something that you purchase mail order?", "Really, I, I, I do n't think that's a valid argument. I think that most people are quite aware they're not paying that six percent sales tax. Um, s, s, naturally some, some things you just ca n't find in your local K Mart or, or, uh, Bryn Mawr stereo dealer. Uh, but th, th, th, then why not pay, pay the sales tax ( ( ) ). Corporations have to, why should an individual just because it's, just because the state ca n't really find out about it, be able to avoid paying sales tax?", "Well, I mean, it seems to me that, generally, at least in my own experience, when I purchase something mail order, it's not to circumvent paying sales tax to the State of Pennsylvania. It's because, I'm sorry, the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. Uh, it's because I, I ca n't find the item that I want at a competitive price anywhere in my local area. So I go outside the area for that. And I think that it's not my responsibility to police myself and pay Pennsylvania what they believe they are owed even though, you know, the revenue stream went to another state. I do n't, I do n't think that that's my responsibility as a, as a conscientious consumer.", "I, I'll agree it, it's not your responsibility but, b, is it also legal, for you to do that? W, w, fr, from what I understand from v, v, various net readings, i, i, it, the Federal government is going to try to legislate a more aggressive enforcement of state tax schemes, uh, in, into place in the next few years. It is, it is a lost revenue stream right now and states c, can use all the revenue they can get. With some, with something like that, d, do your arguments still apply?", "Well, I think that if, if policy is established and if a mechanism is put into place to promote the collection of taxes in this fashion, then I do n't argue with it. Because it's not a burden on the consumer to remember that oh, I bought this out of state. I need to Xerox the receipt and make out a check for six percent and send it to Pennsylvania.", "Which is exactly what businesses do at the present.", "Right. But the point is is that businesses do that. The business that you purchase the thing from is responsible for collecting the appropriate sales tax and forwarding it to the state in question. That's a cost of doing business. The burden", " And I, I", "should n't be placed on the consumer.", "I was actually talking about businesses purchasing something mail order and then having, having to pay sales tax on it. That's my understanding of the way, uh, the way it works. Usually, the, the person ordering does n't pay. But the accounting department will, uh, suck up all the bills at the end of the month and realize how much they have to pay. And there r, there are s, some substantial, nasty penalties, um, if you, if businesses try to avoid that.", "Uh, do you mean businesses from the point of view as, of, of selling things to a consumer and then being responsible for the sales tax?", "No. Businesses, uh if purchasing things mail order, if, if I'm a computer consulting firm and I see these, this great deal on forty six mother boards, uh, from, from say Utah. Um, I, I might buy the mother boards from Utah but then still have to pay Pennsylvania sales tax. My a, accounting department will at the end of the month. I think that i, i, I think that's the way things work in Pennsylvania. And I know they work that way in, uh, say here in D C.", "Yeah. See I'm unfamiliar with that because I do n't, I never see that end of the business. So, my only experience has been from the point of view of a consumer. Uh, but, if that's the case, if the business is responsible for policing themselves, then I think some well defined mechanisms need to be in place so that, uh, the opportunity f, to forget that you owe sales tax for something, uh, can be avoided.", "That's true. I, i, a r, a big hole does exist right now, uh, in that consumers can just say oh, I, I forgot that. There, there is no well defined mechanism at all and, and that it is a a l, loss. I, I think is that the Federal government will try to establish a mechanism ju, just to do just that in or, in order to gain the revenue that's being lost. Uh, I mean, I, I do n't know if I agree with that. But it, but,"]}
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{"turn_id": ["4379_0", "4379_1", "4379_2", "4379_3", "4379_4", "4379_5", "4379_6", "4379_7", "4379_8", "4379_9", "4379_10", "4379_11", "4379_12", "4379_13", "4379_14", "4379_15", "4379_16", "4379_17", "4379_18", "4379_19", "4379_20", "4379_21", "4379_22", "4379_23", "4379_24", "4379_25", "4379_26", "4379_27", "4379_28"], "speaker_role": ["Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1"], "utterance": ["Uh huh. Do you,", " So, what is your, uh, family, what do you usually do as far as budgeting?", "We have a very detailed budget. Because my husband is a finance major. And we have, you know, we have money that we take out each month that we, uh, you know, for food and, and for, for gas and things like that. And then we put aside so much money each month for birthdays and for Christmas and for, uh, other things. Then we take our major purchases we want to make during that year and we budget them into what we call our, our needs and wants list. And so, uh, the things that, like a vacation. We have a vacation fund. We have a fund for the things we need. And then a, for the things that we want. And, uh, and we're continually putting into those, you know, each month how much we're going to need and then we know the month that we're going to have enough to get that particular item. So we very rarely buy anything on credit. Everything we buy is paid for.", "Yeah. My husband is a finance major also And, uh, we kind of have the same plan. Uh, we have one credit card and every month we put, uh, you know, the same amount in for retirement. Uh, and we budget, we're, our, our new thing to our budget is we just had a baby. So we're,", "like she is slicing something > >.", "budgeting, uh, each month, uh, an allowance for his education So that's in our budget every month now. That's the newest addition. But we too do the same thing as far as, uh, we have a set amount we take, oh, one big vacation a year and then maybe, you know, three small vacations. So we, you know, an, exact amount that we spend on that each year.", " Uh, we have found that we spend less money if we pull out the money. Uh instead of just writing checks for things. If we actually pull it out and keep it in a safe here. And we actually pull out the money each month that we want to put in for birthdays, that we want to put in for, uh, the vacation. That we put in for Christmas.", "Like you have a separate account for that then?", "Well, a lot of that, uh, I do n't know how safe it is. I guess, uh, we keep it all in a safe here at the house.", "Oh, I see. Uh huh.", " And so it's actually pulled out. Then we keep our", " Oh, I see.", "we have a savings account for the kids' education. That money goes into there. Each of our, we have three children. So they each have their own account. That money is put into each month.", "Uh huh. Does your husband deal in, uh, stocks and bonds and mutual funds and all that kind of stuff? Th, does he invest in that and", " He does somewhat.", "for long term?", "Yeah. He does somewhat. Uh, we have an investment plan. Yeah. I guess he does. But, uh, we have really found, this is the first year we've done it this way. And we are really saving a lot of money.", "Really. Because you're, you've, you've sat down with a piece of paper and said well let's see what are we going to, so what goes into that, that particular thing? It's vacations, Christmas.", "Christmas, birthdays, uh, car maintenance, dental, medical, we just averaged out how much last year we used per month on medical and how much we used on dental and, uh, and so now when we have to come up with that deductible that our insurance does n't cover rather than wondering where it's going to come from, we have it, you know. And when, when we see something on sale, uh, instead of just looking in our checking account and saying well we've got enough and getting it, and then when something comes up, you know, kind of scrimping to pay for a medical bill. Everything's taken care of. And we're finding that we even have more money than we thought.", "Well, you know, uh, what do you do as far as, I, I take it, do you, uh, run the family budget as far as, uh, groceries and that sort of thing?", "I do. Uh huh. All the money.", " Uh huh. And how, what's that?", "All the money is turned over to me.", "Uh huh. Do you have a set amount that, that you spend each month or or how do you work that?", "I have a set amount. It's very generous and I usually have extra. And so then that can go, uh, you know, either back into our checking account or I can just carry it over. Uh, you know, there are certain months of the year that you'll spend more on food than other months. And certain times when that will be left over. But that's completely up to me how I do that. And then, uh, because I do n't work. I stay home.", "I do too. I stay home also.", " And so it's kind of my money and I also get my own money to do what I want to. Go to lunches, you know, and do that kind of thing. We have a clothing, uh, envelope for each of the kids and for myself and my husband that we put how much we figure we need each month on clothing. It really works out great. We're finding that we have a lot more money to spend on things like that. And we're,", " Yeah. What, what, as far as like big things like something comes up and you have to buy a T V or a big item, like for the house. How, do you have like a household?", "Yes. We have a household budget. Like we're going to need to buy a bed for my daughter that's coming out of her crib this year. And also, we need a new bed. And so we've got both of those budgeted and we put a certain amount in each month and we know which month we'll enough saved to go buy those."]}
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{"turn_id": ["4382_0", "4382_1", "4382_2", "4382_3", "4382_4", "4382_5", "4382_6", "4382_7", "4382_8", "4382_9", "4382_10", "4382_11", "4382_12", "4382_13", "4382_14", "4382_15", "4382_16", "4382_17", "4382_18"], "speaker_role": ["Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1"], "utterance": ["Well, here in Logan, Utah, we've got a nice little valley here and it's like crystal clear all the time except for during the winter when the inversion sets in and then we get a little bit of pollution in the valley.", "Huh. Well, here in Seattle, uh, it's g, the air's getting more and more polluted. We're, uh, we're in kind of a basin And, uh, Seattle is on Puget Sound which is a inland waterway between two mountains. And, uh, there's been a lot, a lot of growth, population growth around here And, uh, it's, uh, it's getting worse I think most of it is from cars.", "Yeah. Definitely. Here in Utah up along the Wasatch ( ( ) ) along the western side of the, of these Rocky Mountains here, where a lot of the big cities are Salt Lake and Ogden and Provo and Logan's up in the valley a little bit further north, we get a lot of pollution and it's like seventy percent of it is from cars. And, uh, it always really hits hard during the winter when we get the inversion And when we get, get cold air down in the valleys and warm air up above and it just sits and sits and sits and we're starting to hit pollution levels now on the Wasatch front which match that of L A a few years ago. It's not, it's almost sad. Because when I grew up here, it was just always the crisp air up in the mountain valleys and now it's not in the mountain valleys.", "Yeah. Yeah, I live in the, university district and, uh, uh, it's supposed to have about the worst air pollution I think probably due to, uh, a lot of students going back and forth to school. And then we're right next to Interstate Five also.", "They're getting serious about things like, uh, mandatory, well they've already passed laws where you have to get your cars checked for pollution if you're in certain counties, emissions.", " Oh, yeah. ( ( ) ) have they started doing that yet?", "Yeah. They've actually started doing it down along the, not in Logan up here cause we're doing a lot better. We have a lot, population is a lot lighter up here.", "We have that here and, uh, they're, they're expanding it to, uh, more counties here. Uh, as the population spreads out and I think they're also going to be making it, uh, mandatory for more cars. Th, th, there was, uh, something in the law about if your car was over a certain age, like over twenty years old, you did n't have to get it done anymore. And I think they're eliminating that, uh", "Yeah. They're ge, eliminating that out here.", " that loophole. Yeah.", "They're also talking very seriously about the thing called a dirt gun. Where they're, uh, looking at the emissions from the car using basically a spectrometer and looking at the, basically how much of what is coming out of the exhaust. Kind of like a radar gun. And...", "Oh, really, You mean they could do that remotely?", "Yeah. Do it remotely just looking at the, what they do, they do several different types of things. Sometimes they put a source light and they look at the source light and then as the car goes by, you can see the exhaust pipe and the source light behind it and you can look at the emissions actually.", "Now where does the source light go?", "Like across the street. They'll set up", " Oh, I see.", "like a trap or something like that in some sense. And they're also looking at, uh, other, you know, ways of monitoring this and, cause they've found out something basically that, uh, and a poorly tuned car can emit something, it's an incredible amount. It was like four hundred times as much uh, of certain pollutants, and it was like unburned hydrocarbons, then a properly tuned car. And, and the idea being that if you just tuned up all the cars, well if you tuned up this ten percent of the cars that were producing like fifty percent of the, the pollution then, you know, you, it'd be one way to cut the pollution in half.", "Yeah. That's neat But it's also been, uh, oh, you know, everybody is talking about using more mass transient here but it, uh, it's tough, you know. Like I've, I've looked into riding the bus to work and I can drive to work in, uh, and get there in twenty to twenty five minutes over a very congested corridor. Which goes over Lake Washington on one of the floating bridges. But if I, uh, if I take the bus, it requires several transfers and it takes over an hour. So so it", " Yeah. And they're..."]}
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{"turn_id": ["4611_0", "4611_1", "4611_2", "4611_3", "4611_4", "4611_5", "4611_6", "4611_7", "4611_8", "4611_9", "4611_10", "4611_11", "4611_12", "4611_13", "4611_14", "4611_15", "4611_16", "4611_17"], "speaker_role": ["Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2"], "utterance": ["Uh, uh I, I should say something. That I'm the, uh, least informed, this is totally accidental that I have to talk about this topic. But, it's, I'm the least informed person in the whole United States. This has not been determined yet but I, I, I've never read a newspaper in my entire life and I've, I, I never watch T V news nor listen to the news on the radio unless I'm just happening to be listening to music and they slip it on in the car radio before I can turn it off. But,", " Any particular reason?", "Well, no. I, I've, I've explored that with lots of people. Uh, they've tried to lock me up and, uh, things like that. But, uh, uh, I'm basically not interested and I also find the, uh, everything is so slick and superficial and misguided and mis, and off the, uh, uh, what am I trying to say. Uh, I do learn about things.", "Uh huh. Huh faint > >.", "Largely from friends and I occasionally will read something like the NEW YORK REVIEW OF BOOKS. You know, someone will write a book about something and then I'll learn all about this thing that was in the news two years earlier. But it, and somehow, and anything I participated in or know about when I read about it in the paper is always so, uh, covered from such a funny and superficial perspective that I do n't have much confidence in it. But, I mean, I do n't think it's just that I'm lazy", "I really do n't, ( ( I, I ) ), I like to refer to this as sort of CONSUMER REPORT phenomenon. Which is everybody that I know reads CONSUMER REPORTS so the people who do feel that CONSUMER REPORTS does a wholly inadequate job in their area of particular interest. But, assume that they do a reasonable job in other areas. Uh, without thinking that there were people in, who think each other areas, area of, of specialty and, uh, I guess you could explain it two ways. And, and the cynical view is, well these things are n't doing a very good job at all. And the view that I would rather take is that there's a different amount of information you need when you're particularly interested in a topic or, uh, particularly interested in buying something as a, you know as a hobbyist versus when you want to go out and buy a blender because you need to mix things. And I think the same thing is true with news. If you want to just have an idea as to what's going on, most papers, a, and especially the better papers, the, the TIMES, the WALL STREET JOURNAL, the WASHINGTON POST give you a reasonable idea. If you were deeply involved in it, then you immediately realize that what they print is stuff that you probably knew already and the stuff that you want they're not printing because the average person does n't need or want to know", " Right. Does n't want, Let me ask, by the way, just for the record. I, I'm, I totally concede that intelligent people read these things and intelligent people write them. So, I mean, I'm not being elitist in that sense, I hope. Uh,", "Well, I mean, there's, there's a reasonable question as to whether it's worth the amount of time it takes to keep up on things And most people think it is and I can, I can, you know, accept that some people think it's not and can find better ways to use it.", " Yeah. By the way when you say most people think it is, I think it's like ninety nine point ninety nine think it is, percent.", " I do n't think it's that high.", "Oh, you do n't?", " I know a lot of people who may watch the T V news in the evening but do n't spend the time to actually read a newspaper. And I think they're saying well if something's really important, I'll at least find out that it happened. And, and that's a, that's, is a reasonable start and for awhile I did n't read a newspaper when I came out here because I did n't find one that I liked. Uh, and if something important happened, it was covered on T V and I could then go and, and pick up newspapers if, if it were important enough to read about. And I imagine you get the same level of ( ( ) ) something that you cared about happened, you'd find out from friends or other channels", "Yeah. Uh, I did, on the, uh, the Supreme Court hearings, ar, the, for, uh, uh, the whole business of, uh, see I actually have a, a,", " Clarence Thomas or,", "Yeah, the Thomas and Anita Hill business. I, I mean that's, that's the closest thing. I deeply cared about that. Uh, and I sort of had planned to have dinner with a friend of mine and when I arrived at her house, she was engrossed in that. We ended up watching it for a couple of hours. Zooming out and grabbing something to eat and then zooming back and ea, watching it some more. And I thought that was terrific because she actually helped me understand what was going on. But even then, I did n't end up doing it on my own. Uh, uh,", "Yeah. I stayed as far away from those as I could. I decided I did n't want to waste the time I had, I guess, five years ago now, wasted that kind of time with Oliver North hearings.", "Right, right. Yeah.", "And afterwards, decided that what I had gotten out of it just was n't worth the time I put in. And that these things are just very slow in seeing information"]}
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{"turn_id": ["4628_0", "4628_1", "4628_2", "4628_3", "4628_4", "4628_5", "4628_6", "4628_7", "4628_8", "4628_9", "4628_10", "4628_11"], "speaker_role": ["Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2"], "utterance": ["Wha, what sort of company do you work for? Do you work for a big or a little place?", "Uh, I work for Georgia Tech. Yes sir. I work for the research facility. Uh, and it's, it's kind of small in a sense but it, it does have, about, uh, I guess, two thousand civil employees. And, on a, a scale, I guess it's still considered small. It just have a lot of different laboratories. The area I work in, it, it primarily have maybe a hundred people or so. So that's make up most of the laboratory so from, from that standpoint, it's pretty small it's pretty small. What about yourself?", "Huh. Well, I, I work for, uh, actually probably similar kind of place. I work for, uh, Lincoln Laboratory. Uh, yeah. We actually do some work with some people down at Georgia Tech.", "Oh, okay. I see.", "Uh, and, uh, so we're, we're part, we're actually part of M I T. So it's very much the same kind of place and, uh the technical institution. Uh, while I was sitting here waiting while they tried to find somebody for me to talk to, trying to think of what, uh, uh, what things were important, uh, besides salary and a, and a job. I guess, uh, ( ( ) ) list I had scribbled down was the people you worked with and maybe the, uh, the challenge of the work and, uh the working conditions, things like that. I do n't know. What are your, uh, what sorts of things would you consider important?", "Well those and probably the security aspect of it. Because a lot of time nowadays, even though you're working, uh, you're treated, and it may not be true in every place. In a lot of cases I think you're treated more like a number instead of a, a person. Because when it come down to layoff, they do n't really consider people and, and, you know, their well being as far as, you know, how they going, their next dollar going to come in. How they going to pay their bills. They just lay them off. And I was reading this book one time about this guy that had, uh, I think the company still exists. What they use to do is, they used to cut the number of hours for everybody as opposed to just laying people off you know. That way that, you know, one person would n't get one big blunt blow at one time. And, uh, you know, I think if they had programs that set up to subsidize people that do get laid off a little bit better, you know, other than s, you know, something like, unemployment is good but I mean the company as a whole because you as an employee, even the company is making money, they paying you a salary but you are responsible for that company growth. You're responsible also for helping that company get to the par, point that it's at at making profits. So there should be something in there or some kind of clause that will subsidize people if they did lose their job other than, you know, uh, neglect or something like that. You know. Because it's not a person's fault that, you know, people not buying or businesses are, are not on the up and up all the time, you know. I do n't see how one or two people, maybe more one or two, but, you know, a number of people can, can be the downfall of com, a company situation.", "Now how do you mean that? I know it,", "Well in a sense that say, how do you make a, a conclusion that you're going to lay off these ten people. Uh, for the bad times of the company. What about the, the work effort those ten people did when the company was doing well. You know. In that standpoint.", "Well, you, you think it's better than to, to try to spread the, the effort equally among all the employees of the company or,", "Ye, yes, I do. I really do. I think it'd be better that way and even at that, it would at least give the person time to look for another job because they know that ( ( ) ) that there are problems and, you know, there are reason to look for another job instead of just dumping it on them all at one time. You know. That's just, that's my views, you know.", "Yeah. I've heard of a couple of companies that have done that. I think, uh, back about, a few years ago when things were tough, Hewlett Packard did that for awhile. They went to a, uh, a, a four and a half day work week rather than cut, yeah, just cut everybody back ten percent. And, uh, have to, give everybody a half day a week off. And I think you can do that for a little while but I'm,", "Well at least that would give a person a chance to look"]}
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{"turn_id": ["2095_0", "2095_1", "2095_2", "2095_3", "2095_4", "2095_5", "2095_6", "2095_7", "2095_8", "2095_9", "2095_10", "2095_11", "2095_12", "2095_13", "2095_14", "2095_15", "2095_16", "2095_17", "2095_18", "2095_19", "2095_20", "2095_21", "2095_22", "2095_23", "2095_24", "2095_25"], "speaker_role": ["Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2"], "utterance": ["All right, have you lived in this area long?", "No, I've only been here a couple of years. Uh, but, uh, I've, I've noticed that, uh, this year it seems to have been a lot warmer than it has in the past.", "Yeah, it, it, it's, it's a lot warmer, a lot drier too, because usually about this time of year, this, you know, you see a little bit more rain. I mean by, by mid February, I mean, we start getting a lot of rain.", "Yeah, yeah, well I remember last year, or the year before, uh, we had ice and snow, uh, uh, terrible ice storm, uh, around this time of the year. And, uh, this year it's been so hot and, uh, sunny it, it's really quite, uh, quite amazing.", "Yeah, unseasonable. I used to, my wife and I we used to live in San Antonio, couple years ago, and it was, it was I remember the first day of Spring, it was so much ice that came down, later on that afte, that afternoon and evening, it was just, it was horrible.", "Yes, I was just talking to my son today, he's up in Boston, and it was twenty nine there and it was, you know, in the seventies out here and, it was really, uh, he really wished he could be here, rather than there.", "Yeah, well, um, I do n't know I, I guess I'm just sort of acclimated to colder weather. Um, I, I like it warmer, I mean I like it, you know, I like it warm but it does n't really matter. I mean, I'd, I would much rather see it cool at this time of year anyway because it would mean a little bit more rain possibly but, uh,", "Uh huh, uh huh. I have, you know, I, I, don, I think it's really been delightful. I come, uh, I've spent most of my time in, in warm weather areas and, uh, uh, the ice and snow just does n't, uh, hold any allure for me at all.", "Well I spent three years in Germany, so I'm not too thrilled with the whole thing anyway But I got used to it, it was really strange, I mean, when I, when, when, when we came to San Antonio it was just like, uh, you know, it just, just swelter and then we got used to it and then we went up to Dallas and it was just, it's, it's not, not that it's just hot or dry, it's just not very comfortable, it just,", "Her, do you, you think San Antonio is more comfortable than Dallas.", "Yeah, a little bit.", "You must, well, uh, it must be quite a bit hotter down there, is n't it?", "Yeah, my wife and I, the last day we were in Florida, we, my visiting my, uh, my parents, and my brother and sister, we were, we were down there and, the last day, right before we left, we had to, I had to ride with my sister and the air conditioning went out on the car and, we, you, you just get used to air conditioning all the time, and this, it was just, the humidity was like eighty plus, eighty percent plus and it was just killing us.", "Oh yeah, it's terrible. Orlando is the only place I've ever been where I've seen the car sweat. I mean, that's really bad.", "Yeah, well, I mean, I, I, I guess I've been in some places, you know, where the weather was just so mild, you know, places like Monterey, California or,", "Uh huh, uh huh.", "you know, just, you know, so mild, and then you've been to such extremes like San Angelo, Texas where you just, where you walk outside and you sweat, you know you're sweating, you look down at your arm, but you see the water leaving your arm, it's so hot,", "Oh wow, uh.", "you just feel it pulling away, bizarre.", "I know I, I tend to, I tend to be able to get along with monotony in the weather when it's very temperate. Uh it does n't, some people say, uh, they, they like to watch the changing of the seasons but, uh, I'd rather, you know, like southern California, you know, have it kind of sunny and temperate all the time. So, it's kind of a luxury.", "I tend to agree but, I do n't know, I, I think, in, in some, in some respects it probably ( ( ) ) more tolerable.", "Yeah, well I guess this, the weather is n't as lively a topic as, uh, as some of the others we might have gotten.", "No, the other topics. I got one topic, they said talk about the Middle East situ, well,", "I guess we're supposed to say good bye or something, and think about what my daughter is here prodding me to say good bye. We messed up the conversation, anyway.", "Well I mean I've had some pretty bad, I guess some pretty controversial topics so it's just like well that was my fault. But then the weather's like, man, I mean, it gets pretty mundane, I mean you can only talk about, about the situation just so long.", "Yeah, I know, weather's just not all that inspiring. Okay, well it's nice talking to you."]}
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{"turn_id": ["4048_0", "4048_1", "4048_2", "4048_3", "4048_4", "4048_5", "4048_6", "4048_7", "4048_8", "4048_9", "4048_10", "4048_11", "4048_12", "4048_13", "4048_14", "4048_15", "4048_16", "4048_17", "4048_18", "4048_19", "4048_20", "4048_21", "4048_22", "4048_23", "4048_24", "4048_25", "4048_26", "4048_27", "4048_28", "4048_29", "4048_30", "4048_31", "4048_32", "4048_33", "4048_34"], "speaker_role": ["Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1"], "utterance": ["pretty good, pretty good. So we're talking about drug testing in the work place, huh. * listen", "Drug testing in the work place. Um. I've been tested a few times, just before pre, drug employment. But that's about it. I've never had random drug testing.", "Yeah, we have random drug testing at, in my business, but I've never been, uh, never had to do it. Yeah, yeah, they started that about a year ago, and I think it's mostly for the, the field people that, you know, drive trucks and heavy machinery, that kind of stuff. But, uh, they, they have done some testing around our office, mostly after lunch, looking for people drinking, uh, drinking beer and stuff at lunch time, at least that's.", " Oh, they do with alcohol. They do it with alcohol?", "Yeah, yeah, they, they, they'll check for alcohol.", "Oh, I thought it was just like marijuana or cocaine.", "No, once, once you start doing that stuff, you sort of, you're sort of stuck into, uh, checking for the whole, the whole thing.", "Huh. That's interesting.", "Yeah, it's a,", "What type of field of work are you in?", "I'm in the oil business.", "Oh, in the oil business. Okay, and you work in the office around.", "Yeah, I work in the office, so, uh, it's pretty, pretty safe environment.", "Yeah see, I work in the automotive air bag industry, where we make the safety bags", "Uh huh, uh huh.", "for the cars, and we work around a lot of explosives.", "Well, that sounds like kind of an important job to be, uh, straight on.", "Yeah, so that's, you know, I'm all for it, because the, well, the type of environment I work in, you know, they're working with explosives, and so they could blow up the whole, well, they have safety features with each of the explosives they use, but still, it can be dangerous.", "Yeah, yeah, well, I, I, I agree. I think that, uh, you know, under certain circumstances, especially when you're working in, in high risk, uh, uh, industries, where you can really hurt other people, that, that you need to have that kind of stuff. You know, if it's, as long as it's not abused, uh, you know, random, you know, as long as it's random, and, and the individual's rights are, uh, are protected, I do n't have that big a problem with it.", "Now do they fire them, or do they?", "Well, see, this is it, this is where I start having my problems with my company. I work for a private company, and and the policy is something like, see if I can re, state this correctly now. If you turn yourself in as having a drug related problem, then you're eligible for company counseling. But if they catch you, if you test positive for a, a controlled substance, then you get fired. So, it, you know, it's sort of one of these little catch twenty twos.", "Huh, that's. I think our policy is that, all right, it's probably the same thing. I'm not really sure what the", "Yeah, really, it's one of those things that you read once, and then, if you, if you're not worried about it, you just forget about it", "That's right. But I know, they do have counseling, and that they do give you a second chance, but I'm not sure if if it's if you get caught or if you turn yourself in.", "Yeah, yeah, our company's a little tougher on the second chance. I mean, if, if they're going to give you the opportunity to turn yourself in, then they ought to, you know, go out of the way, I think, a little bit more to, uh, to help you get, help get you rehabilitated to, you know, to get get back at your job. But, uh, when you're not, when you're a private company, the rules do n't always apply.", "Uh, do you think it works very good with that random, do you think it limits,", "Well, it's, it's hard for me to, to evaluate it because everybody I work around is in an office environment and, you know, it's not, I guess I ha, have n't run into anybody that's, that's had a problem that's, that's been a problem. Uh, so I gue, you know, I guess it works, uh, much like, uh, well, shoot, like any lottery, I mean, everybody's got an equal chance to get picked. So, uh, I'd rather have that than, you know, say well, this week the As and Bs are going to be in and next week, Cs and Ds are going to come in", "You could time it just right.", "Yeah, right, right.", "I know one employee, I know, when I was working with, he had alcohol on his breath, and I'm not sure if our policy covers that or not. That'd be just as dangerous.", "Yeah. Well, especially around, uh, you know, equipment, machinery and stuff.", "Huh. That's true.", "You know, I've, I've gone out and had a, had a beer at lunch time, but not to excess in any case", "Uh huh. Do they give any limits on alcohol, or is it?", "Uh, I do n't remember, to tell you the truth. I do n't think they do. Um, well, they must, I mean, gee whiz. That just shows you how much I've been paying attention, because I, I really do n't know. I'll have to go into work tomorrow and ask Well, you know, you can take some of that, that testing a little bit too far. Uh, there was a company in Houston that, they did, uh, an unannounced drug sweep of the, of their company"]}
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{"turn_id": ["4060_0", "4060_1", "4060_2", "4060_3", "4060_4", "4060_5", "4060_6", "4060_7", "4060_8", "4060_9", "4060_10", "4060_11", "4060_12", "4060_13", "4060_14", "4060_15", "4060_16", "4060_17", "4060_18", "4060_19", "4060_20", "4060_21", "4060_22"], "speaker_role": ["Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1"], "utterance": ["Okay Karen. You, you're first.", "Okay. I was just going to say I think one of the biggest thing for me is room for advancement. You know, not to get in, like in a dead end job. And plus, for me, it's, uh, I mean like medical and you know, uh, benefits and dental. They're also important.", "Yeah. I guess one of the differences I see is, uh, working for a university, uh, there is room for advancement, but not so much so, our in, uh, quite a highly unionized environment and then also in the administrative association so there is a progressive path, but not being in the say the commercial sector, the motivation is n't there for a lot of people uh, like really,", " Are they like pretty much train for a specific job and that what I hired for and then I, just very little variation from that.", "Yeah, somewhat that, but then also there just is n't the ability to in one sense have, uh, a broader scope for rewarding people for their performances. Uh, so that's in our situation where we are dealing with an institution, uh, it's a little more difficult to recognize an individual's performance and I suppose that's maybe a disadvantage of being in a larger institution, perhaps somewhat even with the business, uh. But I agree, you know, the, uh, medical benefits and those kinds of things are one of the big pluses of working for a large organization and also the, uh, security aspect for long term employment, uh,", "Well, you know that's interesting though. Because I do n't know if that's necessarily the case anymore. I use to think that, you know, after you work, you mean security, job security?", "Job security, yes.", "Uh, that use to be I think a couple of years ago, but I do n't know if it is so much anymore. In fact, they, we just had a lay off in what November, I guess. But, uh, it was n't necessarily, I mean, you know, some people had been there a long time.", "Yeah, we are seeing that here as well. Like in some of the large oil companies. There has been massive lay offs. Uh, so I, I think there it's probably a major distinction between institutions and the corporate world in, uh, institutions are slower to react both on the growth side and then also on the reduction side where the businesses, we need to cut back, that's what we do.", "Uh huh. No doubt", "Yeah, and institutionally, like here at the university, oh if there is a cut back, well gee, it's not where it necessarily where it's needed, it's where it's most expedient which,", "Expedient, yeah that's exactly it. Yeah, where the most dollar, where, where you know it cuts back the most.", "Well, in one sense for us, it's where it makes the least noise which means it's often the lowest support type roles.", "Oh. See, yeah. Yeah. I think that's one of the things too. You get too many management people, you know.", "It's very easy.", "Yeah and it's very easy for them to say, oh this is the best way when they really are n't aware of what all it took to get the work done you know. And then they wonder why it does n't get done in the same amount of time. Well, those people are n't there anymore.", "Right. Because it's support people that are providing the speed for it.", "Yeah, but, so what else do you think is important?", "Well the, uh, that's maybe the majority of the importance, I guess. Yeah, because my perspective is from an institution, uh, the, there is not much incentive for innovativeness because the limitation for reward is very severe but if you're in the corporate world, I think there is considerable motivation for I guess in, innovation, although he, you know, the more complex your structure the, uh, less difficult it is to kind of carry some things through but, uh, I think there is, uh, it's a long term type of process where in a small organization it's, uh, things can happen much more quickly and so you can see the reward of the efforts.", "I think probably in a small, yeah, I was going to say more, it's more personal for one thing. You probably have a better team, uh, cooperation, or team playing, atmosphere. Probably, where as in a bigger corporation, I think you're just a number, you know.", "Yeah. You end up being your own person and, uh, if you do your job fine and if somebody else is messing it up, well then that's their problem and you know you really,", " whereas yeah in a smaller, I think you would be more willing to either help that person or help it get accomplished, you know.", "Yeah. Yeah. It becomes the organization instead of person being you know a part of the individual themselves."]}
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{"turn_id": ["4148_0", "4148_1", "4148_2", "4148_3", "4148_4", "4148_5", "4148_6", "4148_7", "4148_8", "4148_9", "4148_10", "4148_11"], "speaker_role": ["Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2"], "utterance": ["Okay. So, uh, with the issue of trial by jury, uh, I actually found the whole question about whether you need a, a unan, a unanimous verdict in a criminal case to be somewhat interesting.", "Yeah, actually, I, I agree that that's an interesting thing. I, I believe that's a, for, for civil suits it's not unanimous, right, but for, for criminal suits it's unanimous by federal law?", "I do n't know if it's even true that it's always unanimous because I thought there were cases where, uh, I do n't know if it's the difference between felonies and misdemeanors, but where it was okay for a state to have it like eleven out of twelve. messy kind of inaccurate bracketing >", "Yeah, I actually thought I'd read that, too and that's why I phrased it that way. I wonder, the difference, yeah, the difference could be that for, uh, state, if there is such a thing, state felonies versus federal felonies that federal, things that are under federal jurisdiction require the unanimous vote, and things that are under state jurisdiction, even criminal do n't require, but I do n't know what the, the laws, do you think that that's an unreasonable, uh, requirement that they be unanimous?", "Well, I'd be curious as to what the, uh, requirement for a, an acquittal is. And I, I do n't think it would be wrong to say that eleven out of twelve can convict if there were something corresponding saying that if, you know, six or seven voted not guilty, then instead of it being a hung jury, that was an acquittal. But I do n't know whether you need an, a unanimous, uh, vote of not guilty to acquit.", "Yeah, that, that would be an interesting change. It was also allow the, uh, idea that if you had one person who was, uh, very disagreeable that, I mean, it, it fundamentally changes the way the processing occurs because, uh, the fact that it's w, the, the principle is that the fact that it's unanimous insures the beyond a reasonable doubt, uh, criterion that it, uh, increases the, the likelihood of getting the proper judgment. So, I, I think, if anything, it would have to be a very close to unanimous decision.", "Yeah, I'd agree with that. But I've never had the, the opportunity to serve on a jury, although I've been out here and registered for, I guess, about five years.", "I, I thought that that would be very interesting thing to do. I would like to do that. I've been out here twenty some years and I've been called, uh, three different times, but I've never actually even made it into the, the jury box. And, because there have always been a number of people and, and I've never gotten up there to answer any of the questions. Uh, I, yeah, I also think that would be really good. I,", "( ( Well ) ), the people I know who have served have said that usually what ends up happening is that, you know, after initially finding out where people stand, that the whole deliberation usually results, if there is a, you know, something like a nine, three or, or more severe and, and the people in the majority trying to convince the minority that they're right and in fact, I'm not sure that that's any more, uh, liable to get rid of the reasonable doubt than, than anything else.", "Well, the, the one thing that I know does seem to happen from people I've talked to on this, is that in the situation you just said where it's nine to three, or some such number, that there's, an effect starts being that there's starts being a lot of peer pressure going on and that that, uh, peer pressure, and in some cases if it's a long trial, the desire of people to get out of there and not be stuck in there for a very long time, that people are changing their minds for the wrong reasons.", "read one book, I think it was calls TRIAL BY JURY of all things, that, uh went through and interviewed a bunch of jurors in some of the big cases, and in many cases looking at what had, at the evidence afterwards as to whether the decision was right, went back to the jurors, uh, based on the deliberations. Some of them did say that, you know, when they were the only one left opposing the verdict, uh, you know, everyone was getting on them so, so heavily that eventually they just gave in knowing that nothing they could do could stop it from either being the verdict everyone else was trying for or a hung jury because the one vote does n't mean anything except the ability to not have a verdict.", "Yeah, I, I understand. You, you would hope that if you were in that situation that you'd have the moral fortitude, uh, to hold out if you believed that that was really the proper response. I think of the movie, uh, TWELVE ANGRY MEN. You ever seen that movie?"]}
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{"turn_id": ["4177_0", "4177_1", "4177_2", "4177_3", "4177_4", "4177_5", "4177_6", "4177_7", "4177_8", "4177_9", "4177_10", "4177_11", "4177_12", "4177_13", "4177_14", "4177_15", "4177_16", "4177_17", "4177_18", "4177_19", "4177_20", "4177_21", "4177_22", "4177_23", "4177_24", "4177_25", "4177_26", "4177_27", "4177_28", "4177_29", "4177_30"], "speaker_role": ["Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1"], "utterance": ["Hi. So, do you think you get good coverage from the sources that you have?", "Uh, actually no, because, because I'm in school. I, I kind of miss out on most of the current events. I just catch the major ones off the news or if someone starts to talk about it.", "Do you watch a lot of T V to get the news then?", "Uh, I do n't watch a lot of it, but that's the on, basically that's my only major source of information. What about, what about you?", "Well, I read, uh, I get a bunch of different things. I get a newspaper every day and I try to at, at least have a few minutes to look through that and I look through, uh, I get a NEWSWEEK every week which I, I pretty much read that cover to cover and I, as far as, you know, that satisfies most of the short term news I get. Uh, do n't watch much T V, do n't have enough time and, uh, do n't listen to the radio too much especially the news channels or anything like that, you know, they might give you a little blurbs like this happened or that happened and that's about all I ever hear of it. Uh, but most of my news probably comes from NEWSWEEK and for the longer term I, I read, uh, like SCIENTIFIC AMERICAN and, and, uh, READERS' DIGEST and some of those other types of magazines that come out which, they, the news is n't, like, immediate what you'd generally think of as news, but it's recent material.", "And it's more in depth.", "Yeah, it is, it is more in depth, less broad. Well, actually, it's, probably is n't less broad, but it's just more in depth and, uh, it is, it is more sig, it is more just significant information, you know. It is the big events, not the little events. Not the fact that there was a big auto accident down on the corner of Broad and Main, you know.", "I know, where they're just trying to fill in.", "Yes, or they're making, making time because they to fill in an hour's worth of news. Uh, I get kind of bored watching T V actually, when I watch the news on T V because", "I know, I do, I do, too.", "it goes so slow and, then there's nothing that, you know, really is like oh, so exciting.", "Yeah, you may find one little, uh, news item interesting so you have to wait twenty minutes to, to hear about it.", "Yeah, that, that's about what it ends up being. Listen to the news to hear the traffic report or something", "Yeah, actually, y, you mention NEWSWEEK, I, I, I do like, uh, U S NEWS AND WORLD REPORT. I do n't get to read it as much as I like, but that's, I think that's a good magazine.", "Yeah, I think they're about the same. I, you know, they, they certainly have a very similar, uh, charter at least in my mind. And, uh, uh, what, what kind of, uh, what kind of news normally interests you, I mean what do you, what, what do you find interesting versus what do you find boring?", "right now trying to keep abreast of, uh, what's going on in Europe, you know, with all the, U S S R's satellites breaking off, trying to become independent and, you know, European community coming together. That's going to affect our, uh, economy quite a bit.", "I think it will, uh, they, they keep claiming it's going to have a big influence, but we've yet to see it and th, it's real short term yet, though, I mean, it's only been, three months or something like that since that happened so, But they like to tell us that it's going to be important", "I'm, I'm pretty sure it is, because, uh", "I think it is, too.", "once, once Europe becomes unified and, uh, their economy becomes one big economy we're going to be, uh, kind of hurting", "Yeah, I, I think that's a possibility, uh, it, we might also be helped, though, because it, it will be easier to do business over there, too. For the companies that already have a presence over there and, uh, I know of at least one company that specifically went over there and established a presence before nineteen ninety two so that they would have it when it", "so they have a toe hold, I good toe hold.", "Yep. Because once you're in there, then you can easily expand. But getting in after nineteen ninety two is more difficult.", "Yeah, because, when they first start off, they're going to be highly protectionist so,", "And there's already a lot of evidence that they are being very protectionist, even amongst themselves, they're being somewhat protectionist, you know. Like, England does n't want to do one thing and, and Sweden does n't want to do other thing and they're, they've all got their own reasons which have to be resolved yet. And some of it, I mean, is, I'm sure within those people's minds, it's quite justified.", "Yeah, I, I can understand their viewpoint, they're just, they're starting off, their economy's a little bit weak, so you want to get established before they", "open up their borders to everyone. Uh, what is the, uh, do you watch anything like with sports or anything like that?", "Actually I'm not really into sports. My roommates are, so, unfortunately, I forced to watch quite a bit of sports.", "Against your will.", "Yeah, we have to, fight over the remote control.", "Yeah, at least you guys have a remote control. It's sometimes better to not have one of those. Course, you can always mislocate it."]}
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{"turn_id": ["4312_0", "4312_1", "4312_2", "4312_3", "4312_4", "4312_5", "4312_6", "4312_7", "4312_8", "4312_9", "4312_10", "4312_11", "4312_12", "4312_13", "4312_14", "4312_15"], "speaker_role": ["Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2"], "utterance": ["So, what kind of music you into?", "Well, I have a, uh, pretty wide taste, uh, in music, ranging from progressive rock to jazz to, uh, lot of different forms of, uh, music. In fact, it's easier for me to say, uh, the types of music that I do n't like are opera and, uh, screaming heavy metal.", "The opera, yeah, it's right on track. I like classical, but I ca n't deal with opera at all. And heavy metal, uh, it's noisy. I'm into, uh, some industrial music that's, a, a bit even harder than that. But it's, it's got to have a point to it.", "Oh, I do n't mind music that's difficult to listen to, but, uh, the, the, uh, basic point of heavy metal w, which seems to be music to annoy you, is, uh, gets a little annoying.", "What kind of progressive stuff?", "Uh, lot of stuff that actually has, uh, ended up becoming popular like, uh, Nirvana and, uh, oh, you know, I'm thirty, so lot of the stuff I was listening to in my teens like the Clash and, and the Sex Pistols and R E M, that sort of stuff. Uh, R E M makes me laugh because they've gone from a college radio progressive group to being, uh, you know, ultra mainstream at this point, and it's not really that they've changed their musical style so much as the stream changed.", "Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's, a lot of people l, like, saying that, you know, bands in that position, you know, sold out. I think that's pretty much, you know, bull. Because R E M really has n't changed. If, it's, it's interesting. They're producing, uh, similar music and it's good music but, you know, people have picked up on it.", "I think it is. Uh, for a while there, music seemed to really ha, popular music seemed to have, uh, not a lot of point to it. I was really tired of, uh, the Michael Bolton. Mi, Michael Bolton really got on my nerves because he, he was making all this money doing mediocre cover tunes. And I could, uh, go down to a bar that's about three minutes from my house and hear people doing covers better than him not making nearly as much money.", "Uh, but he picked the right songs and and that that's about all he had going for him. Or still has, for that matter.", "That, and a marvelous hairdo.", "Yeah, I'm sure that, that so, that sold a lot for him. That's all you really need for a lot of, lot of pop. I'm ki, I've kind of like developed a, a short hatred for, for pop. It just seems like there's no, no real point. You hear the same, same tune over and over again in a thousand guises and,", "Well, i, it's interesting because you were, you were saying that you liked classical music and I like a lot of classical music, but I also dislike, uh, some classical music, and what gets me even more is the attitude of people who are really into classical music, and feel that if, if it's not seventy five years old, it has n't stood the test of time.", "Yeah, I can, I can believe that. What kind of things are you, do you like in classical? What's the", "Stuff that I like, uh, I like Bach. I tolerate Vivaldi. I ca n't, stand, uh, uh, Debussy or Debussy different ways > > Uh, uh, I like Tchaikovsky. He can make a lot of noise when he's, uh, so inclined. Uh, and some of, some stuff that I like, uh, for instance, Frank Zappa has done a fair amount of orchestral composition and that's interesting music,", "else in the room > >.", "but it would not get performed by any, uh, municipally funded, uh, philharmonic, uh, just because, number one, it's Frank Zappa and he's weird, number two, is n't he still alive. You know, we're, we're, much better off playing, uh, Beethoven's ninth, that's right, you know, w, we'll do, we'll do the ninth and everyone will know it and and hum it and i, it, it just is n't chance taking enough for me."]}
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{"turn_id": ["4316_0", "4316_1", "4316_2", "4316_3", "4316_4", "4316_5", "4316_6", "4316_7", "4316_8", "4316_9", "4316_10", "4316_11", "4316_12", "4316_13", "4316_14", "4316_15", "4316_16", "4316_17", "4316_18", "4316_19", "4316_20", "4316_21", "4316_22", "4316_23", "4316_24", "4316_25", "4316_26", "4316_27", "4316_28", "4316_29", "4316_30", "4316_31", "4316_32", "4316_33", "4316_34"], "speaker_role": ["Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1"], "utterance": ["Do you think that there's any way that, uh, or do you think there's too much crime now? I mean, I guess, any crime is too much but,", "Uh, yeah, yeah.", "It's out of control.", "Uh, well, uh, out of control, I do n't know. I guess it could be worse. Uh, we've, uh, we've, we've got quite a bit of crime in our neighborhood. Uh, I live in the university district in Seattle near the University of Washington. Uh, there's, uh, there's a lot of problems. I mean, there's like a big rise in homelessness and more street people and, uh, you know, we get c, cars on our block, uh, regularly, uh, uh, g, uh, gone through, rifled through and stuff.", "I would not of, okay, I would not have guessed that in Seattle.", "Yeah, you figured it was like Omaha, right? No, it's, uh, it's not Newark, but, uh, yeah it's got problems.", "Yeah, I wonder, I mean, I wonder what, what really is the answer. I mean, it seems like our, our, the prison systems, we ca n't seem to decide whether or not it's a reform system or penal system.", "Yeah, I think most people regard it as a warehouse. Where you put away the people that are so bad that, uh, you do n't want them out in circulation.", "But, but the problem is, is that we, we only have but so much room and we, we try to put aside in the warehouse, and all we do is just displace other people which come back into society and commit crimes and,", "That's what I hear.", "So it's, uh,", "Yeah, I, I think, you know, do n't you feel like most people have given up on the rehabilitation idea?", "I get the feeling that a lot of people have. I'm not convinced that I have. Uh, see, I mean, my mom taught English as a second language and, and she was dealing mostly with people that were, were in on drug crimes and, uh,", "Oh, you mean she taught in a prison?", "in a maximum security prison down in central Virginia. And, the problem she had was not with the inmates at all. The, the people that she had the most problems with were the people that ran the prison.", "Yeah, the b, the bureaucracy.", "It was, it was, I mean, they, they put her, I mean, I did n't, obviously I did n't see the classroom, uh, and, hopefully never will, but, uh they, they put her at the end of a hallway, there were no other classes going on at the time and they refused to let her wear a body al, a body alarm. Which, and I do n't know exactly what that is, but I just assume it was something that she could hit immediately and, and really annoy a lot of people. But, uh, you know ( ( ) ),", "So she did n't feel safe.", "No, she did n't. She did n't, she, she felt fine for the first year when she had her first set of inmates, and then later on the, uh, the administration kept getting worse, and, uh, she got a couple of inmates that she was n't, she did n't feel quite as comfortable around. But, well, she had decided that it was, when we came back to the States, she decided that it was too, she did n't feel that public schools were s, were safe, so next thing you know she's teaching in a maximum security prison.", "Well, at least it's maximum security, right", "Yeah. But, but the point that was, that it, you know, you said that perhaps, uh, people have given up the thought that rehabilitation's possible and, and I'm, I'm thinking that it's even to the point that the people in, that run the system have given up on it.", "Uh, well, I, I think the people that run, yeah, that run the system are the most hardened and probably the most cynical, you know. I mean, I, uh, you know, I, I talked to a few people who worked in prisons and stuff and it's, uh, you can get pretty hardened, I'm sure.", "But getting, I mean, well, see, I always have problems because, because I can never decide whether or not I'm, I'm supposed to be a conservative or, or a liberal but, But I keep,", "Those are funny ( ( labels, see ) ).", "I keep thinking that there's got to be some way, that, that a lot of this is circumstances. I mean, I ca n't help but wonder if, if I grew up without a father, on the streets, and with like little or no money, would n't would n't I be in prison ( ( at this point ) )?", "Oh, yeah, absolutely. I think, uh, yeah, I think you can blame it on social problems. Sure.", "I mean, I do n't know.", "I mean, as, as, you know, as poverty has gotten worse, as, you know, education has gotten worse, as there's been more single parent families, as there's been more homelessness, there's m, been more crime.", "We've got methadone programs where people who desperately want to get off drugs ca n't", " Yeah, there's not enough", " get onto the program.", "beds and treatment programs, rising drug abuse, and, yep, it's a mess.", "I do n't, I do n't remember the, the gentleman's name, but the, the, uh, the mayor of Baltimore is a, is a Rhodes Scholar and what he,", "Is he the guy wants to, like, deregulate heroin, or something?", "Well, what he wants to do is take all the money that, uh, he gets for drug enforcement and use it for, uh, drug education. And basically, just, just attack the problem at the demand side."]}
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{"turn_id": ["4339_0", "4339_1", "4339_2", "4339_3", "4339_4", "4339_5", "4339_6", "4339_7", "4339_8", "4339_9", "4339_10", "4339_11", "4339_12", "4339_13", "4339_14", "4339_15", "4339_16", "4339_17"], "speaker_role": ["Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2"], "utterance": ["Yeah, Jonathan, uh, you s, you say it's near and dear to your heart. Buying a car is, uh, something you're contemplating, I take it.", "Uh, fantasizing about. Ca n't do it right now. Our situation is that we're a two car family and I have a mini van we bought a few years ago. It's got a, uh, five year loan, so that's still got a couple years to run and the car I get to drive is a, uh, Nissan Sentra that's going to be ten years old next month so, I think about, uh, sprucing that up in a couple years if I can.", "Uh huh. What do you think you'll, uh, what kind of a car do you think you'll buy next?", "Well since I just turned forty, I'm thinking about a forty year old man's car, something, uh, something real sporty but, uh, realistically with, uh, the need to take the kids to school, probably have to have something that, uh, would n't wined up putting their knees this their throat when they sat in the back seat. * spelling wined should be wind ( ( Something a little ) ) seating room. How about you?", "Well, I think the next car we get will probably be a well I, I like Buicks. We have a Buick Century now, it's a nineteen eighty seven and, uh, whatever I get, I want to have, uh, air bags, uh, both driver's and passenger side and four door because it's much more convenient if you're carrying anybody to, you know, rather than have them stoop down to get over, so I think the four door is probably a major requirement and, other than that, uh, you know, reasonable cost and safety and, uh, as much economy as you can get out of a car. Uh, you know, I'm not looking for one with a great big engine, uh something that will carry it around careful, I guess is best, best way to describe it. Right now, we've got a V six and it, that seems to be just fine. I know they s, they're coming out with some V eight now and I think that's probably a little over kill for this day and age.", "Yeah, I was surprised to hear that the V eights are coming back, so, they've got some pretty powerful sixes. And, uh, you know, V eights seem to be a return to the days of, you know, ten or twelve miles a gallon.", "Right. I, uh, I drive a, a truck, a Ford truck. I, I like trucks because they're spacious, and it's handy to haul things. Uh, it's not related to my business, I just really use it, basically, for transportation, but there's so many occasions when I've had to move some members of the family or do this or that, and it's it's handy to have a truck and not have to borrow one.", "Is, uh, traction much of an issue for you up there.", "Uh, not really, uh, you know, it's a two wheel drive truck and I figure if it's so bad that I need a four wheel drive, I probably ought to be home anyway", "Actually, uh, pretty good way of looking at it, yeah. We, uh, we had a small accident with our mini van a few years ago. A case where there was a, sort of freak ice storm and we were n't aware of it, and just slipped on some black ice and went into another car, and, this is a rear wheel drive model. So, we got some monster studded snow tires after that. Have n't had any problems since.", "What kind of, what make is the mini van?", "It's a Mazda.", "Mazda, I see.", "And, uh, we're pleased with it in terms of comfort, and, uh, driveability. Fuel economy is n't great, being a mini van, but, uh it's real nice for carrying around our kids and others and it's, uh, got some nice features in terms of being able to remove seats and flip them around so we've been able to do some real creative, uh, load hauling when called upon.", "One of my sons has a, a Plymouth, uh, van or, you know, uh, uh, that same type of thing, the Voyager, I guess and, uh, they have a, a child that's five years old and it's really handy for hauling him around and, and their stuff, and, of course, as he gets friends, I'm sure that will be even handier. So, I know if we were, if we had kids still at home, we're in our fifties now, but, if we had kids still at home, we'd certainly have to seriously consider a van just for their functional value.", "Yeah, I think that we're going to be, uh, owning a mini van for some years to come. Probably till the kids are out of, uh, high school anyway.", "What about, uh, all wheel drive? Is that something that you'd be interested in or is that,", "Uh I'd be satisfied with a, a good front wheel drive car when it comes time to replace the Sentra. And even as, as light as that is with, uh, the small tires it's, it's done pretty well in winter, uh, again, like you, if conditions are, are that bad, I probably do n't want to be driving anyway."]}
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{"turn_id": ["4340_0", "4340_1", "4340_2", "4340_3", "4340_4", "4340_5", "4340_6", "4340_7", "4340_8", "4340_9", "4340_10", "4340_11", "4340_12", "4340_13", "4340_14", "4340_15", "4340_16", "4340_17", "4340_18", "4340_19", "4340_20", "4340_21", "4340_22", "4340_23", "4340_24", "4340_25", "4340_26", "4340_27", "4340_28", "4340_29", "4340_30", "4340_31", "4340_32", "4340_33", "4340_34", "4340_35", "4340_36", "4340_37", "4340_38"], "speaker_role": ["Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1"], "utterance": ["What kind of crime do you think, uh, is the most prevalent in our society?", "Oh, boy, probably, uh, robberies, people stealing from each other.", "Such as New York City", "Is that what happens up there a lot? Uh, th, that, that's mostly what I hear, ( ( though ) ), is people getting ripped off and things getting stolen. That's the most prevalent crime. Uh, the ones that really, you know, the ones that really add up after a while, I guess, you know, from, s, far as insurance money and stuff like that, insurance costs. You know, everybody has to pay for it indirectly eventually.", "Yeah, I, I, I wonder if, uh, if drug use is a more prevalent crime, though, because, I mean, so many people use it, and even though just using is not really, I mean it is a crime,", "Oh, well, yeah, that, that, that is a crime. I guess, uh, when you, when you count all the little things that people do like, uh, speeding is a crime", "Well, that's true.", "I break that law every day", "But I was, I, I was staying in the realm of, of felonies versus misdemeanors and, uh, drug use, well, actually drug use is probably a misdemeanor, but, uh, what kind, what kind, have you been, uh, have you been the subject of such a crime, such as stealing, or anything?", "Well, I've, uh, I've been caught with marijuana before, so I guess that was a crime. I got a year's probation for that, but, uh,", "That, that's not that much. I mean", "No, it was n't that", " you know, those are n't,", " big a deal. Uh, when I think of crime, I think of stuff that, that affects other people like people getting, you know, killed or raped. I think rape is one of the worst crimes", "Yeah, I think it is. I, in some ways, it's almost worse than murder.", "Yeah, it's very degrading", "Uh, Murder, murder is, is hard on the people that were related toyou know, I mean, it is a rather final solution, ( ( though ) )", "Yeah, right, once, once a person's, you know, gone, then it's, but the person that's been raped has to live with that the rest of their life, you know.", "Yes. What, what do you think is, uh, is an appropriate, uh, punishment for some of the various, you know, such as, things such as rape or, or, uh, murder or something like that.", "for, for a lot of the kind of premeditated murders, I think the death penalty is, it's a pretty good thing.", "I agree with that.", "They, they have that down here in Florida still. They the electric chair and, uh,", "Yeah, I think Virginia does, too, up here.", "Oh, do they? Yeah, I think, I think that's still an appropriate penalty to pay if they absolutely sure they got the right guy and, I guess usually they're, they're always sure they got the right guy, but, uh,", "Yeah, I think the appeal process takes too long.", "Yeah, so do I.", "I think, I, I think it should take, from conviction to execution should take no longer than a year.", "Yeah, i, if that. You know, the sooner, a, a, a year's plenty of time you know, for something to come out, I guess. Then, you know, there's been guys in jail for six years and the other guy admits that he did it and they it's like oops,", "Well, yeah, I mean, the system is n't perfect, I mean, it's run by a bunch of imperfect humans. You do the best you can to make it perfect, you know, you, you go out of your way to try real hard to make it perfect. But, I think you have to accept some of the errors. I think that murder itself would decrease significantly if, if there was a credible punishment, uh, for murderers.", "Um, yeah, I do n't know if it would or not though. I, I do n't think it's a, so much of a deterrent as, as it is a, a good, uh, a good way for vengeance, you know, for the relatives and, and family members, you know what I mean?", "And society probably, too. I mean, just general society to,", "Yeah, it kind of gets it off their chest.", "Yeah, it does and, and it decreases the prison population. And, which is", "Yeah, I know that a, a lot of the lot of murders that you hear about are people that know each other. And they're the, kind of like crimes of passion and stuff like that. I do n't think you'll ever stop all that stuff dead, but, I, y, y, you might be able to, uh, stop people, you know, they're thinking about it, they know they're going to get the chair if they get caught.", "Yeah, generally the crimes of passion and things like that, uh, are not premeditated. I mean, they can be, but usually they are n't. They're spur of the moment and, uh, the premeditated murders, the ones where the person plots and plans, when you catch those, those individuals, I think that you, you end up with a, uh, uh, how do I want to, you end up with a s, you end up with someone who's more dangerous to society because they actually could harbor these thoughts for a long time.", "Yeah, they could p, probably do it again.", "Yes, they, they would have no problems doing it again.", "That's right, they did n't have any time doing it the first time.", "Uh huh. And I think locking them up for, you know, fifty years does n't do a, any good because"]}
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{"turn_id": ["4353_0", "4353_1", "4353_2", "4353_3", "4353_4", "4353_5", "4353_6", "4353_7", "4353_8", "4353_9", "4353_10", "4353_11", "4353_12", "4353_13", "4353_14", "4353_15", "4353_16", "4353_17", "4353_18", "4353_19", "4353_20", "4353_21", "4353_22", "4353_23", "4353_24", "4353_25", "4353_26", "4353_27", "4353_28", "4353_29", "4353_30", "4353_31", "4353_32", "4353_33"], "speaker_role": ["Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2"], "utterance": ["Huh. Do you all have a budget?", "Well, uh, yeah, we, we do. Um, we've been married for twenty three years and we have, uh, three teenage daughters and, you know, they're very expensive. So, uh, uh, we, yeah, we have somewhat of, uh, a system. Uh, it's, it's kind of, uh, you know, it's kind of hard to explain. We've actually gone, uh, just recently, to you know having, having two checking accounts. We always had just one. And now we are having two. Uh, it's kind of hard to talk about this because to me it's very personal.", "Yeah. It's, uh,", " So, I have to be. That's that's kind of the way I feel about it.", "Yeah. I usually, uh, my wife handles a lot of the day to day finances and of course, we're ju, like ther, like a lot of people. We just scramble through month to month, you know.", "Do you have a two income family or one income?", "Uh, we have a two income uh family. She also works and, uh, but she, she enjoys it and she's good at it. Uh, if it's, if it's, I am kind of, uh, uh, I'm pretty bad about procrastinating and one of these days I am going to do something about that ( ( I believe ) ) You know how that goes, but, uh, uh, if, she, she handles it pretty well. She, uh", "So your wife,", "she writes all the checks, you know, once a month.", "Yes. It that what her, is her career, uh, related to, to finance or accounting?", "Uh, sort of on a peripheral. She's, uh, uh, an annuity administrator and so she, uh, she works for an insurance company. But, but she enjoys it. She likes keeping track of all that stuff and, uh,", "Yeah, so that's sort of related to her field a little bit.", " Yeah sort of. And we, you know, we've experimented with, with, uh, budgets, you know from time to time, uh, but, if, you know, you have to keep up with them. So a lot of times, we just, uh, just kind of play it by ear. We try to keep our, uh, our retirement and our savings kind of automated so we never see that money. Just like taken directly.", " It's just taking it out, right. Right. Yeah. Yeah. We do the same thing.", " And that, that's kind of handy. Yeah, because if you do n't see it, you do n't miss it ( ( ) ) You do n't spend it.", "you have something to take it out. That's exactly what we've always done and we've had, uh, they've always had, uh, where they match your funds, you know, sometimes if you, if you save so much, then they will match it. Uh, that, you know, we've done that too. But, my husband works for an insurance company and he, he has now for about, oh gosh, how long has it been, ten years I guess. But he was with another company before that, but we have, we have, I, I work also, but I only have a part time job and I get paid very little but, uh, you know, I try to use that money for food mo, Jim gives me a certain amount money. You know, we just transfer it", "Yeah. Uh huh.", "into my account and then I use that for food, household expenses, and then I add my own check to that and then with that I try and handle, you know, some of the clothes that the girls need and things like that, but the expenses that we need and have around the house.", "sounds like you all pretty much do it the same we do. Just kind of play it by ear, but keep the, the deductions", " well Jim has, Jim has a budget. I mean he works it out every month and breaks it all down. Uh, you know. I am given so much mon, money a month, so I am suppose to kind of get the food out of that. So, I try not to, you know, we do n't, you know, I do n't ask for more. I mean I just try and make it on that.", "Uh huh. Yeah faint > >.", "Because I think when you go to the grocery store, you can just, you can go crazy with all the choices that you have and, uh, you can, you can really waste a lot of money that way. So, uh, well how long have you been married?", "Uh, about five years. Yeah.", "Oh, yeah. So you're just really getting started So do you have a family too?", "Uh, I've got one little girl. She's like, uh, nineteen months.", "Oh yeah. Yeah.", "So, uh, she's, she's not, uh,", "She has n't effected your budget yet really.", "Not, not really. Not too bad. Uh.", " No. Not like she will later on. You will see that all of a sudden you're paying, you're trying to decide whether you are going to do, you know, soccer and piano and all these choices that they have of activities to do and then you really have to start saying okay, now what can we afford you know, what can we do here and then you have to really sit down and plan some more and, uh, but I think when we were back at your age, we did n't have much of a budget and then as the girls got older, I think we, we did more and more of that. You know, more budgeting as as they got older. Uh, but uh, but what do you do? Do you,", "I'm uh, I, I work for, I'm an electronic technician. I work at a, for a university. Uh, Georgia Tech, uh, research", "Oh. Well good.", " So I just, uh,", " Well, we just have, you know, we have a good friend that's about to move to Atlanta. I guess we're not suppose to talk about those things. I'd better get back to the subject. But, uh, budgeting. I found, you know, I feel a lot better. You know, we use to work out of one check book and it would be very hard for me because I would n't have, I would n't have any idea how much money I was spending in one month."]}
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{"turn_id": ["4362_0", "4362_1", "4362_2", "4362_3", "4362_4", "4362_5", "4362_6", "4362_7", "4362_8", "4362_9"], "speaker_role": ["Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2"], "utterance": ["Uh, well, h, having ( ( sort of the reason we're ) ) going through the school system I seem to be younger than most people who, who talk on this thing. I'm, I'm just graduating col, graduating from college. Uh, I did n't really perceive much of a, of a problem with the school system. However, when you compare it to school systems like they have in Japan and ad, you can compare just about everyth, thing to Japan need to separate every th > and we look like wh, we do n't have anything. Uh, it seems to be not difficult enough for students. Not challenging enough. And just not generally competitive enough. Uh, however, I, if it were n't for our needless, uh, competition with Japan, I, I'd, I'd think that, that, the school systems, system works at a pretty good pace.", "I do n't know. Uh, I have n't, it's been, uh, well seventy nine since I was at school. At high school. And, uh, I've seen things change. I do n't know if I've seen things change enough that I can actually, because I was n't really like listening to the world go by back then so it's hard to compare. You know what I mean? But, uh, it seems like when I li, I lived in Chicago, I, I've lived down here. I hear the dropout rates from the schools, and I certainly see how much I pay in real estate taxes every year. And I begin to wonder if I'm really getting my money's worth. I mean, I, I've seen so many different things. So, so many different bad reports coming out of the school system and I recognize that there are good schools out there. I mean, somebody's getting, getting a good education because we, continue to employ people. But, uh, I do n't, I do n't understand the, uh, I do n't understand, I guess, why the schools don, seem to have such a high dropout rate in the big cities.", "Uh, well, I do n't pretend to understand that either. Uh, but I'm not quite sure that it's the kind of thing that ought to be blamed on the schools. But then, again, I'm not quite sure where the blame ought to be put. Uh, because the, the dropout rate is, in those areas, w, it's high in those areas where also there's poverty and, and crime. And they all seem to go together. And it seems like if you could eliminate one of, of the parts of that circle, whether, where you have the dropout rate and crime and, you know, general poverty kind of conditions, that things ought to get better. So, uh, a, the other two a, a, they're all three social issues and could be addressed by the government in any ways And clearly, to me, is a kind of government thing to, to fix but it's just like, I, I do n't expect them to know which, which, which part is best to fix just like I do n't know. It's, it's a complicated issue. I, I still do n't think I would blame it directly on the school.", "I do n't know if I blame it on the school. I think, I think I blame it, I think I blame it on a couple of different things. I think I blame it on the school system. Uh,", " Well, that's I meant when I said the school.", "Yeah. I do n't blame it on the teachers in the school. I, although I think that, I do know for a fact that some of the teachers that I know personally get paid an awful lot more than, well, they do quite well for themselves", " Huh. Well, that's odd because I do n't think the teachers in my school district, uh, were well paid.", "No. Not all school districts are well paid. But there are some school districts out there that are very well paid. I mean I know one family that's got, they're both teachers, and they both have, like second jobs that they work in the afternoons. They both work all summer full time. And from their teaching job alone, they pull in forty grand each.", "Yeah. Well, it, it,", " I mean that family is making over a hundred grand. And I'm, I mean, okay, okay. Yes, I agree that teaching our kids is important. However, these people who only work eight hours day at it, from seven to three, and they only work nine months a year and they get an awful lot of breaks in between and that's my tax dollars that I'm spending on that. And I do n't even have kids"]}
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{"turn_id": ["4364_0", "4364_1", "4364_2", "4364_3", "4364_4", "4364_5", "4364_6", "4364_7", "4364_8", "4364_9"], "speaker_role": ["Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2"], "utterance": ["So, do you, your privacy being invaded at any time?", "Well, uh, one of the things that, uh, that I found to be, uh, an invasion is when I pay for something with a credit card and they ask me to put my telephone number on the, on the, uh, credit card bill. That is something that is not required and, in fact, uh, it is actually prohibited but it does n't stop many people many people from, uh, from doing it. And it's n, o, one of the things that it's used for, primarily, is for demographic, uh, research. And to get th, your, your phone number on, uh, uh, lists for phone solicitations.", "Yeah. Yeah. Now th, that y, s, you can still, yeah, I've always done that. I started, once I found out that that's really not necessary or legal then I just refuse and I say what are you going to do. You going to say you do n't want to sell me this product then that's fine. I'll just buy it somewhere else or not buy it at all. And then, ultimately, they say, no you do n't have to put it down But, uh, really it's part of this compliance thing. Uh, the thing I do n't like, I know that certain states actually sell their, uh, their lists like, uh, motor vehicles. That really burns me because, hey, you're required. You have to do that. And V > nowhere does it say you h, asks you whether you have permission or not to sell your name or information regarding that to anyone. And I think that, it, it's one thing f, to, uh, voluntarily give it because someone asks. You can always refuse but it's another thing where it's required by law and then they go ahead and take that information and sell it to somebody.", "Right. Uh, That,", " You know, I do n't think, I do n't think they have the right to do that.", "I agree with you there. That's something that, uh, people have seen. Oh, here's an easy way to make some money. But, uh, I do n't know if that's been challenged in the courts or not. I, I've heard, fairly recently, uh, some talk about that in this, in, in my state. Uh, the budget problems up here are, are pretty tense. And people are looking for alternate ways of, uh, en, enhancing revenue is the, uh, phrase they use. And they were talking about selling the D M V lists and there was a lot of, uh, a lot of, uh, consternation about that and the last I heard they'd backed down from that idea. But it really makes you wonder what other lists you're own that have been made, uh, public that you, do n't know about.", "Well, that's easy. Whenever you donate money to someone? They, you become, put on something like a sucker list and you start getting millions of calls or solicitations. And then you s, y, y, it kind of makes you feel ( ( ) ) from doing it again. Like, uh, National Public Radio or any of these, the public, uh, stations, you know. I, I, I, I think I sent in, in money for, f, once to, uh, to public, uh, T V. And I started getting calls from all sorts of diseases and syndromes and everything you could imagine. I, it's like and it just started soon after I had done that one. And I just said this is, this is terrible Uh, and that's also happened to me where I've given money to my old Alma Mater in college. And, uh, it's one thing, they do n't sell the list. But the thing that makes me mad is, uh, then they start getting, uh, other people, th, the people do these phonathons and they call you up and they actually happen to be people who are, graduated in your class or something like that. And, and they say, oh, we, we know you. You, uh, had, uh, contributed x amount last year. Can you do better this year? And, you know, like hold on here.", "How do you know that?", "Who, how do you know that? Why, why you even telling me this? Is it any of your business? I mean, it's one thing that I, and the college knows that that's, just our business. There's no need for someone who is soliciting should know at all. Just, uh, and that was very offensive too. I, and so very faint > >,", "Last year, the, uh, Lotus Development Company, the, uh company that puts out One, Two, Three"]}
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{"turn_id": ["2184_0", "2184_1", "2184_2", "2184_3", "2184_4", "2184_5", "2184_6", "2184_7", "2184_8", "2184_9", "2184_10", "2184_11", "2184_12", "2184_13", "2184_14", "2184_15", "2184_16", "2184_17", "2184_18", "2184_19", "2184_20", "2184_21", "2184_22", "2184_23", "2184_24", "2184_25", "2184_26", "2184_27", "2184_28", "2184_29", "2184_30", "2184_31", "2184_32", "2184_33", "2184_34", "2184_35", "2184_36", "2184_37", "2184_38", "2184_39", "2184_40", "2184_41", "2184_42", "2184_43", "2184_44", "2184_45", "2184_46", "2184_47", "2184_48", "2184_49"], "speaker_role": ["Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2"], "utterance": ["Uh, being a former drug user I, uh, I, I guess I have to say at this point, that I do approve of it. Uh, because I know that, uh, in using drugs I was not a good employee. And so I can see from the company's standpoint that there, uh, whenever you are an employee of the company, you are using its assets, and, uh, b, you are also under their liability, under the Workmen's Comp. Uh, on my job we had a lot of Workmen's Comp cases", "Where do you work? Oh.", "And, uh, it's also a retreading plant, and that's where most of our, uh, injuries occur. And what we do is we'll have a drug test if an, if a, a break or a man, uh, has an accident. Then he's automatically, uh, given a drug test.", "Right. Do they do it, like, you know, within hours of the accident, or is it?", "Yes, when he goes to the doctor the first time. And so, that kind of, uh, I do n't know if it's been a deterrent or not, because we have, uh, just started using it oh, for the past year or so. Now we've let some people go, uh, that wa, we, was found that drugs were used in their system. Now, I do n't know how T E C would handle it. They have n't pursued it, you know. Uh, if there's some, uh, problem I know, there was one guy that we tested for preemployment for drugs who absolutely swore up and down that it showed that he was using amphetamines, and he went to a, a separate drug testing firm, and they showed it negative. So I think the tests themselves are not really that cut and dried, you know.", "Yeah, I think that's probably true, too. That's, that's, that's sort of scary.", "Uh huh, really. And then I also had a friend who was just around some people that were smoking cocaine. And he tested positive on cocaine. Now then you always wonder, well is he just saying that", "Yeah, yeah, really, really. Yeah, that's, that's a bad situation. I think that probably, I think most companies now, as far as entry, you know, exams require that. I think they should. I'm a T I employee and and, and, uh, I'm, I'm really gung ho for it. In fact I, you know, some of the places now, um, like I B M do n't allow them smoking, you know in, in the plant. We, we have designated smoking areas. But, um, I work in sort of a building that's, that's not really, well it's on the campus of the T I facility, but it's a little bit, you know, separated. We lease the building. And it's, it's a factory environment. And, uh, they, they have designated smoking, but it's just wide open, it's not ventilated properly and I think that's bad. But as far as the drugs, you know, being in the factory kind of environment that way", "Uh huh, uh huh.", "I think it's a, it's a definite, I think it's essential.", "Yeah, because you're endangering everybody's lives if you if it's something like that.", "In fact we've had the policy on just the random testing now for a couple years, and, uh, I, I was giving my boss a hard time because I kept waiting for my name to came, come up, you know, they never, they never called me, they never, you know, and finally, the day we declared war was my time No And so, and, and my boss has, has gone for about like three times, I think. And I told him he's obviously in a high risk group", "The executives, right?", "Right, right, and of course, you know, they did being moved around and making sound > > specifically single them out when we started, you know, that they were going to do all them first.", "Yeah. Would n't that be awful if you were", " Which I thought was interesting", "if you were using, and, and", "Oh, man, yeah.", "oh, lose your job and everything. I ca n't believe I was so brazen before. I, like I say, I'm a former drug user, but, uh, I, I, well, I, I accepted Christ as my Lord and Savior, and so I do n't use drugs any more.", "Oh, what kind of drugs did you use, if you do n't mind?", " Uh, marijuana, cocaine and amphetamines. Um, yes, uh huh And all on the job, too. You know, it had gotten that bad.", "Well, it's really lucky that you got away from that. Cause that's really,", " it's, it's life is so much more enjoyable. Uh huh. And I was losing jobs just from doing a poor job, you know.", " Yeah. Yeah, that's, that's it.", "I mean, you know, there's all kinds of drawbacks, much less the drug testing.", "Yeah. Just life in general.", "Uh huh, that's right.", "Yeah, well, well I'm definitely for it. Plus, you know, you, you want to think that, that you're working with people who are not only putting out their fair share, but that are not endangering your life, in some cases", " Uh huh, uh huh.", " like, uh, my husband, uh, several years back, worked for Motorola. And they had, you know, I mean it was a chemical handling type. Yeah, I mean, and they have, they have some serious chemicals out there you know, like they have emergency shower where you just run in there and strip off and dump water, you know, that kind of thing. And they had people out there using all sorts of drugs handling those chemicals.", "Oh, my gosh.", "And that's really, that's really frightening. So I think some place, you know, places like that, it should be like mandatory like, you know, on, on a, on a greater frequency than maybe, just, you know, paper pushers like, like I am.", " I would think there would be.", "Well, well you'd think so but, uh,", "But they were n't?", "I do n't know if they do it till yet.", "Is n't that awful.", "Because when he was at, course now it's been years now, because it was before, it was even before they had the, the designated smoking", " Uh huh, uh huh.", " type stuff, you know, at T I. I forgot what, I guess it was like eighty four, eighty five something like that. And they, at that time, they had no testing whatsoever. So that's scary", "Yeah. That reminds me of, uh, I have a friend who was telling me about her brother who gets high all the time, and I have just casually asked her what he did for a living. And she said, Oh, he's the supervisor of this chemical land fill, you know where they go and dump all this toxic stuff. And I just, you know, went, Oh, where?", "Yeah, should we move?", " Let me move as far away as possible. But, I'm proud, though, that, that, um, you know, I grew up in the sixties, and back then it was popular but people have really wizened, you know, become wise about drugs and they really have a good campaign for the young people, you know. They know it's not smart, so. So, I guess it was just a generational thing.", "Yeah, peer group is the other way now instead of,", "That's right, and that's good.", "Uh huh, that's,", "That's the best way to stop it.", "Yeah, that, it really is.", "Yeah, well, I think we did it. So it's good talking to you.", " Well, I enjoyed talking to you, Cathy."]}
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It's, uh, it's a new, uh, form I think, uh, it's like low impact aerobics but at, it...", "Oh, instead of hopping and jumping you just step", "Uh huh. Yeah, you, you have a step and you literally step up on the step and move your arms, it's, it's, it's, it's new,", "I probably could n't do that because of my knee", "Uh huh, bad knee Um, and, uh, I do toning a lot and, uh, some, every once in a while I play tennis, I'm not too great at it but I, I try to play,", "Yeah, I've, I've kind of gotten out of the habit myself, I mean, it's I guess what I do now is I play softball, right now, that's about, well, right now I'm on two teams so it's four nights a week. But, uh, uh, so I enjoy it but, as far as, you know, uh, instead of having to join a health club and make myself go out there, I went and bought a weight bench, and do n't ever hardly use it. I need to make myself do that.", "yeah, I slacked off a little because of, um, I'm about to graduate from college and so this past couple months have been really hectic so I have n't really gone, ( ( and I've really been ) ) faithful these past two months of going to the health club and working out but...", "What school you going to?", "I'm at East Carolina. But, um, no, I, uh, my step classes and toning is about the only thing well, I mean...", "Now what's, what's toning? Is that lift, lifting weights?", "It's, um, like isolated movements for each muscle certain muscles groups, you can do with,", "Isometrics, stuff like that.", "Yeah, you can do it with certain, you know, you can do it with weights if you wanted to but, you know, you leave out of there usually the next morning, if you have n't done it in a while, you wake up the next morning you're like, oh, no, what did I do to myself and your whole body aches, you know. Um, I know I'm looking forward to getting back into getting into shape, uh, I feel like I'm out of shape but I feel guilty for not going, because I really I'm, I'm so used to going for, you know, three or four years now.", "stayed in pretty good shape during school. I played baseball, all the way through and, you know, working out six hours a day, usually six or seven days a week that kind of, kept us all in pretty good shape, But, uh, ever, ever since I got out of school, you know, just jumped right into the job and, I guess the job that I'm in it's stuff to stay on any kind of a regular schedule. * listen ; possible typo stuff = tough? Because I work some weird hours and do some traveling.", "No, some, um, I walk a lot because, uh, you know, being in, in school we, I do n't know if your campus was anything like ours, but our parking lot's in one end of the, of the campus and the school, the buildings are all at the other end, so. ( ( You ut, ) )", "No, I did n't have, well, much of a problem we, ( ( ) ) I guess I went to a small Baptist school and we had about, when I was there, maybe thirteen hundred people.", "Uh huh. Oh, okay, that's if...", "So, it's pretty small. Yeah. But I usually get in at least a couple of miles at work just walking around the plant.", "Yeah, it's, uh, I live, I live on the second story apartments so I walk up and down stairs all day long, so.", "Uh, we've got a one story house now that's, that's enough. I guess I push the lawn mower around that's,", "( ( That's one of the exercise, now ) ). I, I, um, would like to start running. I've never been much of a runner but I want to start, I want to run but I do n't, I do n't know if I'll be able to, to do it.", "What just, because yo, you do n't like to or because, because you wo n't be able to.", "I'm, I'm afraid I wo n't be able to.", "Oh, if you do,", "I ( ( wish I'd ) )", "if you do aerobics you should n't have any problem running.", "Yeah. I hope not. Um,", "We've, we ride our bike occasionally but again not nearly often enough", "Uh huh. I do n't even own a bike, I think the last time I was on a bike when I was about twelve, so. Uh, I do n't know, I'd be afraid, afraid I probably forgot how to ride a bike, you know.", "No, you ca n't forget how to ride a bike.", "Yeah, but, um, no, I guess that's about the only form, I'm trying to think of, of other things that I do that will be considered exercise, there are things I should do. I know ( ( it ju, ) )", "Now, when I was going to, I, I went to a junior college for a couple of years and played baseball and then transferred, well, when we were at this junior college, uh, our coach, you know, we, one semester the whole team was required to take aerobics and the next semester they were required to do weight lifting. So, they, uh, I mean, it was a regular, I mean, we had it for course credit, but still, I mean, it was pretty high impact stuff,", "Those aerobic classes are, are tough the, the high impact. Definitely are, are tough classes.", "Yeah, and she'd, uh, you know, most of the guys were all in one class so she'd kind of lay it on occasionally, you know, First at eight, I think we had eight o'clock in the morning, was our class.", "Well, now they have those, uh, those exercise bands now that are better that you can use for like toning instead of using a weight, you have like bands, I do n't know, if you've seen them, they're...", "I think my wife has some.", "Yeah, they're, they're weird. They're, uh, you ge, they're just made of, I guess it's different kinds of rubber, uh, and they get,", "Or sand even some of them, well, no, they're elastic so I guess it would n't be sand.", "Uh huh. And there's some that, like the different colors denotes how much they, how much the tension I guess they are and how easy they are to move. Uh, there's like, I know there's purple, gray, and, uh, green. And some of them are real short and they're the ones that are the tough ones to use, you know. But, uh, those classes I, I enjoy. Uh, I think, uh, with the aerobic classes you have to get an instructor that's fun. If you do n't have one that's fun, and not enjoy it, look, not acting like she's enjoying what she's doing, the class is not going to get out, uh, what they should get out of the class. Uh, if the,", "So, are you going to get into instructing? Well, what are you studying?", "Oh, I'm an interior design major,", "Oh, okay, not in the, not in the, aerobic instructor type field.", "No, no, no, no, oh, I could never do that I do n't think, I'd rather just be the student, And, uh, Occasionally I do the weights at the health club but low weights just...", "Yeah, the, uh, the, some of the Nautilus equipment that I started seeing at the one that we used to go to was really interesting, I mean, they, they, they really know how to isolate each of the different muscle groups, with those things but, man, they are, it, ut, I do n't know to me that was just too much of a hassle to get all geared up and take the time to drive over there, and workout and then drive back", "Right. Well, they, um, I just noticed at our health club they ( ( will put on ) ) these computerized one, these computerized machines, and you set a speed on it and the weight and it, and it makes you do it. And it tells you like if you're going too slow it will say, my grandmother could do this faster than you. And stuff like, a turtle goes faster and, um, it tells it and the whole place can hear what this machine is telling you.", "A little negative reinforcement there while you're going.", "Yeah So, uh, do that, stuff like that but just I've never used those machines I just use the regular machines and the free weights, you know, like little five pound hand weights and eight pound hand weights. ( ( Just ) ) to do, you know, some bicep, tricep exercises. Sit ups, of course.", "yeah, that's, that's where I'm really starting to get noticeable, I'm just getting real soft in the middle.", "Oh, yeah, I think that's, uh, number one problem with everyone", "Uh huh. I have n't really started to put on a lot of weight I'm, I guess I probably put on about ten, nine or ten pounds, since I stopped playing, which was about four years ago. But I've, just myself I just notice myself just really, real soft and I'm sure I do n't have near the endurance that I did, But I, I intend, I keep saying I intend to get back into it.", "Uh huh. Yeah.", "faint > >, I just need to, put the old nose to the grindstone, I, I, I guess at that point it would turn into a task, I do n't consider it fun doing that, but.", "Right. Yeah, I plan on getting back, once I graduate next weekend. Yeah, one week, Then I plan to get right back into it. You know, it's, it does a lot for you I think. Makes you feel a lot better.", "oh, no, yeah, there, there's no, no question the, the end result is great and I, I mean, I enjoyed, you know, we, when I was playing ball we could like run all day and not be tired, you know", "Uh huh, and I mean you feel so much better, Just ( ( that ) ), you know, you do n't feel guilty when you eat that cake after dinner,", "Oh, I still do n't, but That's a problem.", "Oh, yeah, yeah.", "Well, good luck on your graduation and your...", "All righty, well, thank you. It was nice talking to you.", "Yeah, you too.", "Okay, bye bye."]}
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{"turn_id": ["3156_0", "3156_1", "3156_2", "3156_3", "3156_4", "3156_5", "3156_6", "3156_7", "3156_8", "3156_9", "3156_10", "3156_11", "3156_12"], "speaker_role": ["Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1"], "utterance": ["ing seems to be a, a topic that's going to probably take about a generation to, uh, catch on, it seems, or maybe a generation to two And we may have to do it out of necessity as far as moving that time schedule up. Uh, it does seem to be a lot of habits to break. I, uh, was n't raised as a kid on it, but my kids are and so they, they tended to want to grab the aluminum cans when that was one of the first things to do, and we were doing all right there until, uh, the price dropped out and they were n't worth anything anymore. And we it took us, almost a year to get a garbage sack full. We just do n't drink that many. So as far as at home use, uh, we'll pick up a six pack every once in a while or for whatever occasion of Doctor Pepper or something and, and by the time we gathered up enough crushed cans to take it in, uh, at the time it was still, oh, about forty or fifty cents a pound, and we came out with about a dollar it just really was n't worth it.", "And a lot of hassle all year round and cans laying,", "So, they, they realized, you know, well, of course to them a dollar was a dollar at four and five years old. That was n't, uh, that was a big deal, but we decided it was n't worth us keeping it and then, uh, T I started keeping up with, uh, cans there, so occasionally I'll bring whatever I've got laying around the car or the like and throw them in there. Least it gets back into the system, but, as far as a habit at the house, uh, I have n't started on anything other than just whatever the city wants to pick up. Have you all got the individual containers yet?", "No, I read in the paper this week where maybe, I do n't know if it w, was, I guess maybe this week someone may start getting them if the truck that picks them up is outfitted in time. But, it, it should be starting, I would stay probably in the next month if, if everything goes that I'm not sure all what we're going to have to do, whether we have three separate containers, I really do n't understand that part on what they've told you to separate everything.", "Right. Yeah, it seemed like, uh, if, if I recall, it's been a long time. They're way behind schedule on that particular part of it. They were fine on the green, big green containers but, uh, seems like they said they were just going to have a bin and all different types would go in there and then that they would sort it as as needed. It, it seemed that there was, at the time anyway, it, the thinking was that there was too much not getting sorted properly and that at, at the collection sites where everything's clearly labeled and people that happen to go to that kind of trouble to do it, happen to do it pretty well, uh, those are okay to have the general public doing the sorting. But when it comes down to just general purpose trash, that all the houses, uh, the success rate of getting it sorted properly seemed to be poor, so they felt that having one guy just sit there and run through it real quick was better than, than having a household try it. But I, I do n't know, that sounds like an awful lot of labor to sort the entire week's worth of trash for a house.", "Well, it would get messy, too. I, I, I know other places when they recycle, they have to, like, wash out their glass jars and whatnot. And, uh, which we're not in the habit of doing. I was brought up, uh, you know, long time ago, that they did n't even have cans. They had bottles and you'd return them to the the grocery store and you'd get our money back and that, that was all well and good. They do n't seem to still be doing that. If they could just eliminate the cans and use glass, but, I guess this day and age", "They do n't do that. We live next to a set of railroad tracks and it seemed to be a very popular thing for people driving by that highway there, by our tracks to throw the bottles at the tracks and try to crash, you know break them, but, uh, they were n't that successful, so there were a lot of bottles to be returned and we just walk about a half a mile in each direction and gathered up enough to buy whatever we wanted for the day and,", "Yeah, and they, uh, p, I, I think kids do n't appreciate, maybe the value of money, that it's so little that they do n't care, they can get more somewhere else.", "Yeah, just a little bit of begging will", "Uh, for a good, right. They're, the nickels, the dimes or what, I suppose it might be quarters, fifty cent pieces in these days, that they would get, they, the kids just do n't seem to, to care that, that much about a small amount of money.", "Right. Well, I wonder,", "But, we, we did buy a can crusher and we are crushing cans and when we buy the soda when it's on sale for ninety nine cents, so I would say in the last three years, we've probably used a lot more cans than ever before. Uh, it was just easier to do that than to open a large liter bottle and then have it go flat. So that's the main reason we're, we, sort of are into cans at this point rather than the liter bottles", "Where do you take your cans?"]}
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{"turn_id": ["3351_0", "3351_1", "3351_2", "3351_3", "3351_4", "3351_5", "3351_6", "3351_7", "3351_8", "3351_9", "3351_10", "3351_11", "3351_12", "3351_13", "3351_14", "3351_15", "3351_16", "3351_17", "3351_18", "3351_19", "3351_20", "3351_21", "3351_22", "3351_23", "3351_24", "3351_25", "3351_26", "3351_27", "3351_28", "3351_29"], "speaker_role": ["Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2"], "utterance": ["Okay. Do you have any pets?", "Yes, I have a dog and cat now.", "Oh, what are their names?", "Tibby and Liberty.", "Which is the dog and which is the cat?", "Tibby is the dog and Liberty is the cat.", "Uh, wife and I, we have, we have two cats. Uh, one's real nice, but the other one is a, well, she's pretty wild.", "Oh Ours are pretty calm.", "Yeah, are they, um, just house pets? Yeah, that's, that's what ours are too.", "Yeah. Our cat we got from the pound the day bef, the night she was going to be put to sleep. So that's why we call her Liberty.", "Oh, well, that's a nice, nice story. Um.", "Do you want to hear about my other animals I've had? I've had a skunk I've had a Burmese python, I've had rats, I've had mice uh, let's see, I've had gerbils, I have, I had a son, he's now gone from the home, that was an animal lover. So at one point I had a snake, skunk, dog and cat running loose in the house.", "Um, do the skunk, uh, was it kind of like a cat to have around the house?", "it was litter trained and we had it perfumed and, uh, it was very aggressive. But all the, all three of them, dog, cat and skunk, used to chase each other all through the house.", "Uh huh, and the skunk.", "And the only thing we have with the skunk, he was very, very protective of his territory being the sofa and the blanket on the sofa. Nobody came near it when he was there.", "Oh. Uh, I had, I had a dog one time, and, uh, he chased after a, after a skunk and got sprayed so we had to, we had to give him a tomato, tomato juice bath, and, uh, get him cleaned up,", "Yeah, they um, ours would still back up to the dog or cat when he got mad and try to perfume them, but the glands had been removed so,", "Right, but I suppose it was still in the instinct of them to to back up and get ready. Yeah, why, I do n't know, I, I think they're kind of nice to have, they're kind of, you know, just relaxing to, I do n't know, to pet and to, I do n't know, when they like sit up on your lap and stuff like that, just kind of enjoyable to, you know, have like, I do n't know, something giving you some affection as well.", "Yeah, I always said if I di,", "What, what do you think?", "Well, I always said if I died I'd come back as a dog", "Oh, yeah. Yeah.", "That'd be the best way to be.", "Yeah. Um, do you like big dogs or or little dogs?", "we had a German Shepherd and he had dysplasia and he had it for about three or four years where we just about had to lift him and carry him every place he went. So, when he died, we got a little one. But our shepherd was almost thirteen years old, and it just, you know, was almost cruel", "almost cruel for him to, to walk.", "Yeah, he just, he could n't get up, he could n't walk, so, he was a hundred and twenty pounds, so it was a chore. So we said the next time around we'd get something little that if something happened, it would be easier to carry. And then we've had three cats in our married life, and we've got a calico now.", "Yeah, we've got a calico cat too. Yeah, yeah, she's the, she's the nice one. We, uh, we used to live in an apartment and like, our cats never went outside, but, um, the neighbors used to let their dogs out, and our neighbors were, I do n't know, kind of slimy, and, uh, our cats wound up getting fleas, uh, from the apartment that we were in so, we had to, we had to flea bath them and it was, uh, it was an experience that they did n't enjoy at all.", "Yeah, well, do n't even talk to me, I, when I was single I had gone away for the weekend, and my husband, then fianc3e, was to keep my cat, and he let her out, and my house was loaded with fleas, I mean, you walked in and your legs were just black. And we had such a time, and never got the cat back. Yeah, I found it, you know, in the street."]}
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{"turn_id": ["3506_0", "3506_1", "3506_2", "3506_3", "3506_4", "3506_5", "3506_6", "3506_7", "3506_8", "3506_9", "3506_10", "3506_11", "3506_12", "3506_13", "3506_14", "3506_15", "3506_16", "3506_17", "3506_18", "3506_19", "3506_20", "3506_21", "3506_22", "3506_23", "3506_24", "3506_25", "3506_26", "3506_27", "3506_28", "3506_29", "3506_30"], "speaker_role": ["Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1"], "utterance": ["Now is it Stacy? Angie, I'm sorry. Well, now, so if you were going to have a dinner party, what would you make?", "Um, let's see, uh, I like seafood. Uh, let's see, uh, shrimp, steamed she, uh, shellfish with maybe herbs. Uh, spicy lobster with lem, linguini.", "That sounds good. Now what is, uh, what is, uh, the steamed shellfish you said? And what would that be like, a clam or, uh,", "Yeah. Uh, I think hors d'oeuvres are good, too. Uh, and that way, you can have a variety. Uh,", "So if you have a, a dinner party and you're going to serve, uh, seafood for supper, what type of, uh, hors d'oeuvres would you serve prior to the meal? Like cheeses or fruits or vegetables or,", "Yeah, fresh vegetables would be good or, uh, just,", "Probably not nachos and dip, huh? And would you, uh, would it be appropriate to, uh, drink with the, uh, prior, when you have the hors d'oeuvres? Okay. And then when you serve the meal, what type of wine would you have with, uh, with the, with seafood?", "Oh, all these hard questions Uh, what, white wine?", "That would be my guess.", "I'm not really a drinker, so I'm not, I do n't know a lot about that.", "And then, uh, uh, dessert. Something sweet?", "Oh, goodness. Uh, chocolate, something chocolate. Uh", "You must like chocolate. Well, let's see. Usually when we have a dinner party, I always, I like to grill.", "Oh, you do?", "So, we might have some cocktails ahead of time and maybe some, uh, some dip, uh, some cheese. One of our favorites is, uh, to take some, let's see Philadelphia cream cheese I think, is that what comes in those little blocks? And pour cocktail sauce over the top of it and then get these little canned shrimp and, uh, wash them and cool them and then dump them in the, uh, sauce and then take crackers and then you just dip the cracker in the sauce with the clams and the cream cheese and you have a real nice dip that goes good with a cocktail. And then I like to barbecue, like steaks or pork chops. And then we have, uh, s, oh, lot of times we'll have baked potatoes with them and a salad and then, uh, I do n't know what we usually have for dessert. Cake sometimes, but, uh, that's what we would do for a dinner party, I guess.", "That sounds good, too.", "But that's, I guess when you talk about dinner party, that's probably not, uh, that's more for like when friends come I would n't be the big, uh, snotty kind.", "I just started, I just really started, uh, uh, learning about that and I bought a Martha Stewart, I do n't know if you've heard of her. Her cookbook and she talks about catering and, uh, you know, goes into, goes into all that and the different types of, uh, uh, different types of parties, you know, different types of foods.", "Oh, well, do you work in a, uh, in a setting where you, uh, are in the food business?", "Um, my father owns a restaurant.", "Oh, in, uh,", "It's, it's just a, uh, c, a cafe, so it's not really anything, you know, that I want to, it's not the same", "Is it in Dallas?", "Uh, it's in Lewisville.", "Okay, all right. So you graduated from which high school? Trinity, okay. And that's a public school or private? Huh, okay, I have to get to know this area a little better, I guess. Uh, well, is your father's cafe, uh, one that you could cater out of?", "No, uh huh, * listen ; mistranscription of' uh uh'?it's not.", "Um, and he's not interested in letting his twenty one year old daughter experiment with it probably. Well, let's see, what else for catering. Uh,", "Let's see, what about Hawaiian luau.", "Oh, that would be good.", "Could have, uh, uh, fruits and, and pineapple, uh, let's see, uh,", "And you could actually go with, uh, a chicken if you wanted to."]}
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{"turn_id": ["3707_0", "3707_1", "3707_2", "3707_3", "3707_4", "3707_5", "3707_6", "3707_7", "3707_8", "3707_9", "3707_10", "3707_11", "3707_12", "3707_13", "3707_14", "3707_15", "3707_16", "3707_17", "3707_18", "3707_19", "3707_20", "3707_21", "3707_22", "3707_23", "3707_24", "3707_25", "3707_26", "3707_27", "3707_28", "3707_29", "3707_30", "3707_31", "3707_32", "3707_33", "3707_34", "3707_35", "3707_36", "3707_37", "3707_38"], "speaker_role": ["Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1"], "utterance": ["Uh, we have a Sheltie Collie, a miniature Sheltie. Yeah. It's about, oh, about six months old, and we're try, we live in an apartment, so, we do n't have a yard, so it has to stay inside and we're having a difficult time trying to train it.", "How old is it?", "It's about six months.", "Uh, you, you're, you're in the roughest stages of pet ownership, I think.", "But they're supposed to be real intelligent dogs, but I guess every one, one one, one of them, or every once in a while, you get one that's not so intelligent because this one, it.", "I do n't, I do n't know if that has anything to do with the intelligence, really, the, the, the training bit, uh. I've had dogs through the years. Right now I've got two, and three cats, but, uh, and my son and daughter in law have kind of a Sheltie mix, and we watched it this summer for two to three months, and it was n't trained quite fully either and, uh, but it was a sweet and an intelligent dog.", "Yeah, so how'd you all, how do you, what's the best method?", "I do n't know. I, I'm old fashioned, and when I got my, my dogs, when they, when they did something I hollered at them and threw them outside. They say that's not the way to do it now. You're just supposed to", "Stand outside with them until they.", " No, just, just, put them outside, I guess. Unless you ca, catch them in the act.", "Well, we're hardly ever at home, so it's kind of difficult, and, you know, you do n't want to, you do n't want to spank it or scare it, or anything like that, so.", "No, no, you do n't want to do that, but, uh.", "Yeah, we, we try to take it, you know, it gets, it gets frustrating when you take it outside and, you know", " Does, does it just want to sniff around?", " and then it runs right inside", "Does it just want to sniff around and play when it's outside?", "Yeah, a lot of times, and you know, it wo n't it's little job outside and it comes inside.", " Have you praised it and given it a treat maybe when it does something outside?", "Uh, yeah, we've tried that, and, uh, you know, there's certain spots in the house where he likes to go, so, and he chews on plants and all that, but, you know, that's natural", " That's nothing, huh.", "for a little puppy. Huh?", " Well, it, it, it'll, it'll catch on pretty soon, I'll, I'll bet you. I, I have a sixteen year old, almost sixteen year old Golden Retriever, and she's gone the other way, because she's so old, she does n't have much control so we're battling with that problem", "Oh, that's sad.", "and she still feels good. Uh, she ca n't hear worth a darn or see very well, but she's got a great appetite, and she knows we're there,", "How old is it?", "She'll be sixteen in May. yeah, but we ca n't bear to do anything because", "Oh, of course not.", "she's been our friend for all these years, so we're putting up with all her accidents, and the la, two nights ago, she had diarrhea, and so that was a bad one. But, uh, I think we're buying a carpet shampooer this weekend", "That is really sad. What, what's the deal, we, we try to, we're trying to take it on walks now, you know and we ca n't because it's not accustomed to being on a leash and so it, I mean this dog really feels like it's being killed or something when you try to, you know, tug on it to walk it. I mean, it just goes like a mad dog, I mean it just jumps up and down and starts yapping, and", " Does it, oh.", "it's, you know, I mean, it's not even close to even being trained on a leash.", "You know, maybe you nee, you can get it signed up this spring or summer for some of the dog obedience classes.", "Uh huh. Well, we've heard bad, we've heard some bad things about some of those, you know, they sometimes mis, misuse their license or whatever you know, they treat them bad.", "Well, you know, we went, we went to the junior college, Richland and we took, my, my daughter was living at home then, and she took our Golden Retriever, oh, not the Golden Retriever, the Norwegian Elk Hound over there and, it, it, it's a pretty good class, and they did pretty good, except this dog is, she's just pretty, she's not smart So, she did n't learn a lot, but it, I think it calmed her down a little bit, and she's used to being around other dogs now.", "How long did it take?", "I think it was like a six week program. Uh, I think it was one night a week for like six weeks, and, uh, you know, it was a group class, outside. It was fairly reasonable, too.", "Well, Sheltie Collies are, you know, timid, and they do n't really, unless they get used to something, they're really nervous and.", "Yeah, they're, they're usually, a high strung dog are n't they?", "Yeah, yeah, and, uh, if they're not accustomed to something, they, they're really scared. So."]}
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{"turn_id": ["4028_0", "4028_1", "4028_2", "4028_3", "4028_4", "4028_5", "4028_6", "4028_7", "4028_8", "4028_9", "4028_10", "4028_11", "4028_12", "4028_13", "4028_14", "4028_15"], "speaker_role": ["Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2"], "utterance": ["Okay, um, I guess we're going to talk, describe, uh, job benefits, and so what do you think, next to salary do you rank, is the most important job benefits?", "Uh, I would say the medical, uh, group insurance area as far as, uh, covering medical costs for yourself or family members.", "Uh huh. Well, um, does your company have good benefits in that, in that regard?", "Yeah, I think, I work for a public school system, district and, uh, so it's different than a company where most companies fund almost the entire thing, where the school district does, um, the employee must pick up a greater figure in the way of, uh, costs. But overall, um, I've been pleased with it over the years. I think the biggest frustration is because of the cost of insurance going up every year, our district has had to alter, uh, you know, change companies, or now we're on a managed care thing, which has stressed a lot of people out although it has not disturbed me any. How about yourself?", "Uh, well I'm, my medical coverage is with an H M O um, so, that's, in my opinion, that's get, that's bordering on a health clinic, but it seems to be a good way to maintain costs and still provide a good amount of coverage.", "Our district did that for the ninety one and the ninety school year, or calendar years, and I was in the H M O, and, um, I was because my, my same doctor, you know, agreed to be in it for, uh, they usually sign a contract or something and, um, uh, I did have surgery last summer and I paid ten dollars when I went to see him that first day, and I've never seen another bill, so I I have to say it really works. But, again, I was fortunate because my doctor agreed to be in it. Uh, if you've been going to a doctor for, you know, ten years or something and he elects not to join, it can be very stressful for you know, those people.", "That's right, yeah, I'm, I'm fairly young myself, I've only been, when I first started working which, three years ago is when I first got into full time employment and, uh, at that time I immediately joined the H M O, and I never really, so the only doctor I, I've kind of consistently had has been through the H M O, and, uh you know, for me it's worked out real good.", "Right, but if you, you know, have a family and, and, um, everybody's gone to different doctors, uh, it is hard to give up somebody who you feel knows you and your body and your, just has, you know, all the medical history and you feel comfortable with it. I, I'm sure it would be very stressful and, my husband and I have just elected that if that happens, I will go and just pay. You can continue to go to your own doctor but your benefits are not as, you know, good, so, uh.", " Uh huh. Yeah, um, like you, you mentioned you work for a school system. I work for, uh, Georgia Tech in the", " Oh, all right.", "research branch, and I guess another one that, that I rank up there high is the, uh, kind of job flexibility and time off, um, I enjoy as a benefit.", "I do too. Are you talking about like Spring Break and,", "yeah, getting a lot of breaks between quarters and that, and having a lot of vacation.", "It, it really, um, I do n't think most of our teachers, now I'm not a teacher, I am a secretarial executive assistant, but I do n't think the teachers could stand the stress all, all year long frankly. It is just, Texas has really, um, you know, they want everybody educated, no matter what it costs, uh, and it, it would be just, we all look forward to, like in two weeks we have Spring Break, and I do n't know who looks forward to it more, the students or the teachers and the staff. What do you do there?", "Well, um, I'm not actually on the teaching faculty, but we have a large research organization associated with the university, and that's who I work with. Um, and we're given, you know, a good bit of flexibility in what we do. We can kind of pursue our own interests in terms of the research areas that we study.", "Well, that's good. Yeah, I would think that that type of employment, you're, you're, one day you might be really tuned in and the next day, oh, a little luke warm or something and, um, it's good that they allow you that. It, um, as I say, the schools, now we do have to work, you know, the day, but we do get many days off, and, uh, we all look forward to it. That's the only reason I work there, is that my children now have graduated, and graduated from college but at the time, I worked there because my hours and days were the same as theirs and, uh, I've just continued to, uh, stay there ( ( ) )."]}
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{"turn_id": ["4038_0", "4038_1", "4038_2", "4038_3", "4038_4", "4038_5", "4038_6", "4038_7", "4038_8", "4038_9", "4038_10", "4038_11", "4038_12", "4038_13", "4038_14", "4038_15", "4038_16", "4038_17", "4038_18", "4038_19", "4038_20", "4038_21", "4038_22", "4038_23", "4038_24"], "speaker_role": ["Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1"], "utterance": ["Okay, I guess it took, so I guess the recording has started now.", "So, have you ever served on a jury?", "I served, I was in the Air Force, and served on a court martial, uh, board a couple of times, which is very similar to a jury. A lot of the same rules apply. Have you ever served on one?", "Yeah, I finally served on one last year. I've, um, been voting for years, and I could n't figure out why I had n't been called yet and I finally was. So it was an interesting experience. I was kind of boring. * listen ; should I be \" it \"", "Was it civil or criminal?", "Uh, it was, uh", "A grand jury or,", "uh, it was, uh, well, let's see, it was municipal court so it was a combination of, uh, and I was in the pool for a couple of weeks so it was a combination of criminal and civil, and they had, uh, well most of the time we, we spent sitting around in the jury room and getting to know the other potential jurors and then, it was always exciting when we got called to, to, to go, because then we thought we might be able to do something else besides, uh, just sit in the jury room.", "Uh huh. Uh, did, did the judge, uh, hand down sentences or did you folks do that?", "Uh, yeah, the judge did. Uh, I, uh, I had a hard time getting seated on a jury. I kept getting, uh, I'd be questioned, uh, for empaneling the jury, and they kept, uh, dismissing me. Course they do n't have to give a reason, but it's just whether the prosecutor or the defense attorney feels like, you know, they want to get the best, uh, mix for their case, so they ask all kinds of wild questions.", "that's a science in itself.", "Yeah, well I kept getting called up for drunk driving questions, and I think part of it was they did n't, uh, they did n't like the fact that I do n't drink any more. So.", "Uh huh, I see. Because you'd probably be, uh, too puritanical and", "Yeah, that was probably it, although in my case I might have been more, uh, sympathetic with the person who got caught, I do n't know.", "So, uh, were, were the, uh, sentences that the judge handed out what you thought to be fair, or would, if you were deciding, do you think that they would have been different.", "Well, I was never there, never there for any sentencing. Uh, I finally got empaneled on one case, uh, on my next to the last day, and, uh, we got into the, uh, jury room to, uh, decide the case, and there was one guy on the jury who announced to everybody that he did n't need to deliberate, because he'd already decided that the guy was, uh, not guilty, and he would never vote for guilty. So, uh, they appointed me jury, jury foreman and I, uh, did n't think that, uh, going in without deliberating allowed us to reach a verdict, so I told the judge that we were n't, were unable to reach a verdict because we could n't get one member of the jury to deliberate. So the whole thing had to be tried over again.", "Wow, I bet that made him happy.", "Yeah. Yeah, it was, uh, it was funny. The, uh, I ju, I, I do n't know, I, uh, I did n't, uh, uh, I did n't like not being able to deliberate. I, uh, I, I wanted to vote guilty for the guy, and the other people were kind of mixed so, uh, the guy had to go through the whole thing all over again. Cost him a lot of money, I'm sure.", "Yeah. Oh, how many members were on the jury? Was it a six or twelve member jury?", "Uh, it must have been six.", "That's kind of curious to me. I did n't realize until the, uh, Wayne Kennedy Smith trial, uh, a few months ago that they had six member juries. I thought that they, you know, it was always twelve, twelve men tried and true, so to speak. But, uh, apparently for some, some crimes, it's permissible to have six people sit in judgment. I know on a getting to this unanimous thing, whether, you know, a jury should be unanimous or not, or not, in a court martial case it does n't require the jury to be unanimous. It's a simple majority, you know, rules.", "Yeah. Well, let's see, is it on, uh, capital crimes that they have to be unanimous and,", "Probably on capital, I do n't know, we were n't, we, we, the two that I were on had to do with drugs and, uh, we were, uh, unanimous is acquitting the person, even though we in our, in our, uh, gut felt that the individuals were both guilty just because of the friends, because of various things, the government really failed to prove its case, and, you know, being fair to the person, if the government does n't prove its case, no matter how you feel, you have to go by what's offered as proof, and we had to acquit him in both cases.", "Uh, it was too circumstantial?", "Uh, yeah, it was, yeah, in some of the critical things, like the off, special investigations, at one time in one of the cases had videotaped this person, but something happened to the camera and the tape and"]}
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{"turn_id": ["4151_0", "4151_1", "4151_2", "4151_3", "4151_4", "4151_5", "4151_6"], "speaker_role": ["Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1"], "utterance": ["Do you ever think that there's a crime that's just so heinous and so bad that the person who commits this crime just does n't deserve to live anymore?", "That's a good question. Uh, there would be a point, there was a point where I would have said, no, that no one would deserve to die for, for a crime that he committed. But, uh, since I've become a parent and since I've seen, uh, things like Jeffrey ( ( Dahlmer ) ), I really have to question that. I really, uh, I, I ca n't conceive of someone being that brutal to that many other people. And, uh, try and figure out what would be a suitable punishment. Uh,", "Of the statements made by people against the, the death penalty, um, I, I like the statement made by Cuomo. Cuomo I believe is, um, he's, he's governor of New York but, uh, he's, uh, against the death penalty. But, um, he said that he would, he would want to, to seriously hurt or if not kill someone if, if they did something to his wife. And that's, but, but, even, even in that circumstan, in that, uh, uh, situation he would b, he would hope that there would be people around him who would, uh, keep him from doing the, doing the things.", "Oh, it's a, uh, it's a question of your, your gut reactions to something like that versus an intelligent reason response. Uh, a, and that was the thing that, uh, killed Dukakis back, uh, four years ago when someone asked him a similar question and he, he thought for a second and gave a thoughtful well reasoned reply when, uh, people wanted to see if he was going to go for an emotion uh, a gut level reaction. And I think that the people who are strongly in favor of the death penalty are really working from that gut level. Uh, you know, whether it be a biblical force, uh, you know, the eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, a life for a knife, life type logic or just, uh, uh, some sort of anger at putting peop, putting, uh, murderers up in federal pens for the rest of their life, uh, while we foot the bill. I think people are, are working at that from more of a, uh, a gut reaction than a, a reason humane one.", "See, I do n't think the decisions that are going to be made on dea, on the death penalty until we decide what our prison system is intended to do. Are they reformatories, where we're trying to take people who ca n't survive or, or that, that are n't conforming enough to society so that, that we work well together. Or are they, is it a penal institution? Is it, is, is it designed for punishment? Um, the death penalty surely fits in well with, uh, in a penal situation where you're trying to punishment. Uh, perhaps not in the manner that we do it but, but it, in, in theory it fits in. In reforma, system, in a reformatory, I mean if you, if you put someone to death you obviously, ca n't reform them.", "Uh, th, the other argument is that the death penalty is a deterrent and I really do n't, uh, agree with that. I do n't think anyone who would commit a, uh, a crime that would get them the death penalty would stop at the moment and say, well, I was about to kill and dismember this person but, oh, if they catch me they're going to kill me so I better not do it. I, I just, do n't think that, uh, that it works that way.", "I do n't think it's done. I do n't think we run it as a deterrent. I mean people say that, but, I mean, if it was really a deterrent, I mean I think like horse thieves in the old west, you know, they saw other horse thieves hanging by the necks every once in a while. And if we really w, if it was really seriously going to be a d, deterrent, I would think that it would be public. I mean I do n't think it would be this private thing because nobody ever, nobody ever sees it. If someone ever, if, you know, like say some young kids or something like that that might be inclined more towards a life of crime, had to sit and watch and, and see a guy burn or, or, you know, something or shot by a firing squad or something like that. I would think you'd make a bigger impact on their life rather than, you know, telling them that there's, there's protestors out here at the, you know."]}
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{"turn_id": ["4158_0", "4158_1", "4158_2", "4158_3", "4158_4", "4158_5", "4158_6", "4158_7", "4158_8", "4158_9", "4158_10", "4158_11", "4158_12", "4158_13", "4158_14", "4158_15", "4158_16", "4158_17", "4158_18", "4158_19", "4158_20", "4158_21", "4158_22", "4158_23", "4158_24", "4158_25", "4158_26", "4158_27", "4158_28", "4158_29", "4158_30"], "speaker_role": ["Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1"], "utterance": ["Um, are you working right now?", "Uh, yes, I am. I'm working in the computer science department here uh, at C M U.", "What kind of, what kind of work do you do?", "Uh, I'm doing basically system, system design", "faint > > Uh huh.", "work and, uh, implementation work for the speech, for the speech group", "Wh, is that how you heard about this thing?", "actually through electronic mail.", "Uh huh. Me too. I work at, uh, the Georgia Tech Research Institute. Um, I'm a co op student so I work and go to school about halftime. And, uh, I really do n't have any job benefits to speak of. We're kind of, um, I do n't know, they just kind of forget us on that end. We do n't really have any vacation or, you know, sick days or health care or anything really so.", "Right. So it's pretty fair they've got you slaving away, at, at this point", "What about you?", "Well, um, t, i, I'm research stuff here now so what they, they have, uh, um, okay, benefits package. It's not quite as good as industry but one of the significant, um, benefits here is that you can take, uh, up to two courses a semester, um, and they pay for you know, pay for the classes. So, ( ( Carnegie Mellon ) ) that works out to be, um, a reasonable, a reasonable benefit.", "Uh, they do that I think if you're, uh, research ( ( ) ) here then I know of some of the people that have gotten their masters and I think that, um, they might, you know, pay for that. Pay for the classes and stuff but I know they let you, they'll let you decrease how many hours you work by ( ( ) ) kind of percentage. You know, they'll let you work halftime if you want to, if you want to finish,", " If you want to,", " you want to,", "do it quickly.", "Yeah. They'll let you work, decrease your number of hours by any percentage just, just about so if you want to get your masters and then, I think of course you get like a, with your extra degrees you get a pay raise due so", "Uh huh, uh huh.", "that will probably help out.", "Yeah. Yeah. So I, I do n't know in, in terms of other things, other benefits other than sort of monetary I'd, you know, I,Yeah, we, we do. We have to contribute a certain amount, uh, to it. And it's kind of split between C M U and, and, you know, the employee.", "Yeah, I think, I mean that's pretty, that's a pretty important, uh, part of it there because that, that can be really expensive if you ever have any health problems. My dad, I think my, I'm still covered on, with my dad's, uh, health plan at his, where he works, but it would definitely be something to look into once I get my own.", "Yeah, and it's also, right now it's, uh, the, like everywhere else, uh, here in Pittsburgh the health care, uh, rates are, are going up pretty quickly. That's a whole other topic to begin with too but. Yeah, but it's, you are right. I, I, I really agree that, that that's pretty important.", "( ( Well, the only, ) ) I think the, I guess the only real, um, benefit I guess you could say working, for me working here, besides I mean I'm learning and stuff because, I'm at, you know, in school. But there's, there's some ( ( weird law ) ) where, uh, uh, student employees working for the government do n't have to pay Social Security tax.", "Now that's a big win.", "five percent right there so.", "Yeah, yeah. That's,", " That's about the only real bonus I have, so I have to take that into consideration when I evaluate like how much I get paid ( ( real, ) ) you know, because if I was working somewhere else I'd have to, you know, pay an extra five percent,", "I figured for and they've just raised the, um, income caps on Social Security to the point where you have to be pretty, you have to be pretty well off before you stop paying paying that as well. Yeah, well if you could call it a benefit that C M U, I mean i, the other thing that they allow you to do here while you are working is, is consult for, um, you know, other companies. Um, so that's, that kind of helps out in terms of, you know, keeping up to date with contacts in industry. You know, in case,", "( ( ) ) help a lot.", "you know, in case you ever need to bail out", "Yeah. See around, around here it's like, uh, we pretty much work from project to project on, well, you know, with different sponsors."]}
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{"turn_id": ["4334_0", "4334_1", "4334_2", "4334_3", "4334_4", "4334_5", "4334_6", "4334_7", "4334_8", "4334_9", "4334_10", "4334_11", "4334_12", "4334_13", "4334_14", "4334_15", "4334_16", "4334_17", "4334_18", "4334_19", "4334_20", "4334_21", "4334_22", "4334_23", "4334_24", "4334_25", "4334_26", "4334_27", "4334_28", "4334_29", "4334_30", "4334_31", "4334_32", "4334_33", "4334_34", "4334_35"], "speaker_role": ["Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2"], "utterance": ["Type of music is hot down in Texas?", "Uh, well, I do n't know exactly what's hot down in Texas. I know what's hot down here with me, so that's about all I can feel apt to discuss with you since I just know, I do n't ever listen to the radio and that's usually what's hot around here so, So, what kind of music do you like?", "Uh, mostly folk music. Yeah, I find myself, uh, listening to a lot of, uh, uh, either old timer or New England, uh, dance bands as well as, uh, just more popular folk music and new artists coming up.", "Uh huh. Well, we're on totally different wavelengths. I'm more, uh, old rock and roll, uh, some new, newer, I guess you would call it heavy metal rock and roll type you know, uh, Van Halen, that kind of thing.", "Yeah, what about, uh, classic rock type stations.", "Uh, I do n't listen to the radio at all. We live in a fairly small town, so uh, classic rock for me is what I have, which is like, uh, Doors, Eagles, Jimmy Hendrix.", "some of the older Eagles stuff was good. I, I did n't like, uh, they started getting a little more, you know, the type of music, at least to me, it's, uh, sounds like it's only sounds good at a high volumes and I do n't like listening at high volumes. But, uh, some of their older s, stuff was, uh, you know, quite enjoyable to me.", "Yeah, well they,", "You know, Ho, Hotel California and that era.", "Yeah, yeah that does, that's something you do n't, does n't even sound good loud really. You know. You know, definitely. Uh, so, anything new you like coming out now, other than folk music, some I might know of. I do n't know any folk music at all.", "Well, down in Texas, uh, you know, little, listen to a little country every now and then.", "Yeah, oh yeah, here,", "I'm sure there's a lot of that down there.", "Oh, plenty. Way, way more than I can stand down here. I, I do n't care for it at all, that Texas twang or whatever you want to call it. I,", "Well, there, there's a Conway Twitty twang, then there's the, uh, Dolly Parton, uh, Hollywood sound.", "Yeah, yeah, that's more, even more commercialized for of country music. But, uh, it's getting, uh, uh, getting pretty big everywhere, as I see it. Garth Brooks is outselling Guns and Roses so,", "Yeah, I think some of them, the artists are even, uh, hitting the pop charts.", "Yeah, it's, it's kind of strange that it's getting as big as it is. Concert tours for country and western sings is, it's, it's quite, quite odd, but, uh, I do n't know, it's, music is kind of going an odd direction nowadays, I think. It's becoming not necessarily good music, just popular music, you know.", "Hey, I, I, I think most artists are in to make a few bucks.", "Yeah, and that's all it,", "But they're not in it to say anything or give a message which is what they were do, late, late sixties, early seventies, they were", "That's what it,", "they were definitely pushing a message.", "Yeah, that's what, what you say, and, and then music is wrapped around now. Now, it's the other way around.", "Yeah, I, I do n't, I do n't think Gun, at least to my mind, Guns and Roses does n't have too much of a message, too much to say.", "No, no, they do n't have anything really important you want to hear. But, you know, it's kind of odd, it's like, it does n't have to be good, it's just who does it, you know. You hear a, you hear a Paula Abdul song and you, and I think, if somebody else were to play that, you know, they would n't, they, nobody, everybody would think, that's lousy, but because she did it, it's supposed to be good, you know, it comes to the point where it's your name, not what you do more than anything. Madonna can do anything and it would be considered good because it's Madonna, you know. Madonna could start playing folk music and folk music would be huge just because Madonna does it, so it's, it's, it's really backwards how things are working now but,", "Yeah, i, i, it's the artist, not the merit.", "Yeah, exactly. So, I do n't know, I, I do n't know that that's, I do n't think that's a good thing at all, but that's that's what the, point we've reached, so I do n't know how how much farther we can digress before we have to turn it around and go the other way, at least.", "Well, I do n't know, I know for myself that, uh, for the most part, I do n't know which artist is which, so I listen to a song, I either like the song or I do n't like it and then if I really like the song, eventually I'll figure out who it was.", "Yeah. Yeah, that's about how I am on popular music. I do n't, you know, you do n't, I do n't know enough about it because I just listen, uh, everything I listen to is what I buy, not whatever they play on the radio so,", "Well, you have to figure out what to buy, or do you just buy along the same artist?", "Uh, I, yeah, I just mostly buy along the same lines all the time. I do n't really switch around to new things very often. It's just, it's, you know, it's way to hectic and too confusing.", "Yeah, so you keep buying the same artists until you do n't like an album, then you stop?", "Uh, yeah, generally, or, about the only new music I hear is somebody else that I know will buy something new that I have n't heard and I listen to it that way, but as far as, yeah, I do n't go out on a limb and buy something new very often unless I've heard it.", "Yeah, see, that's one thing I like about the, uh, some of the folk music scenes, you know, there's a couple of nice, uh, small coffee houses up in New Jersey. And, it's very nice, you go into the coffee house and, you know, an artist is there and very often the artist will have a d, an album and, so if you like the artist, you buy the album. So you definitely get to try before you buy.", "Yeah, yeah, that's definitely I,"]}
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{"turn_id": ["4346_0", "4346_1", "4346_2", "4346_3", "4346_4", "4346_5", "4346_6"], "speaker_role": ["Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1"], "utterance": ["Okay, you go first.", "Well, I have, uh, two kids, I have one seven and one five and, uh, they're in a public school here in Tyler and, uh, I'm happy with it. I'm happy with the school, it's great, good teachers good curriculum, uh, they learn a lot, they have no problems, uh, but I do live in the better, well, in the best part of the city, though, I live in, you know, the real richy part, I guess. I'm not, but, everybody around me is and, uh, but they're, I have friends that live in the other, the less fortunate or whatever you want to call it part of town and their schools are kind of rundown and, uh, older and they do n't really offer as much, I do n't know, as, uh, the school that my girls are in. I do n't really think that's fair. You know. Uh, but, you know, I'm happy with what they're in, so, go ahead", "Well, yeah, it, it's, it's pretty much what I was s, going to say is there's a lot of disparity between different neighborhoods and what sort of schools go in. Uh, I grew up in New York and uh, the place, or not New York City, upstate New York and I went to, uh, the City of Rochester School District and s, a lot of my friends were in one of the neighboring suburbs and it was n't, we were n't too far removed geographically from each other, but the difference in schools I think was pretty substantial and, uh, one of the things that probably would have been better if, is if the entire county had had, had just one school system. And that would result in some, uh, could result in more equitable distribution of money because what was happening was, you know, all the very rich people went out to the, move out to the suburbs and the city had a very low tax base so they did n't have a lot of money to work with. As a result, the schools were rundown, there was n't as many, you know, of the nice supplies in science class that we would have liked. There was n't as many advanced placement courses, uh, when I was a senior that some other schools had. And, uh, it, it, so I, you know, I think that one of the things, one of the ways to, to, to help schools in general, uh, and get them all to a minimum level of, of, of competency almost, would be to expand the size of school districts so you get a wider variety of people, and the, the problem with that is then, then, then people will either, the rich people will either pull their kids out of the public school and put them in private schools or they'll move farther away to get better schools. So, you know it, it's kind of, you end up chasing, like a dog chasing its own tail sort of.", "Also, uh, the, the family environment, you know, you can come to south Tyler where I live and you have got room mothers in every room, you've got art mothers, you've got every, every holiday, there's parties. All these kids have these really supportive, really supportive parents, always up there for something. You can go to north Tyler to the schools and the parents might not could even tell you what their kid's teacher's name is. You know, uh, that has a, a whole lot to do with it, you know, as far as their learning, I mean, if the parents are n't, uh, you know, willing to go with the kids and find out what they're learning and if they're learning you know, they really do n't have much of a chance", "Why is that? Why is that?", "Why ( ( you asking ) ) You j, they just do n't, I mean, I mean, I'm, I'm up there at my kids' school, I know what they're learning and if they're up, I call and find out, you know, is she having problems, does she need help with anything, no, she's doing fine, okay, you know, uh, and I, I know kids that their parents could really give a rip and the kids are not motivated. They have no motivation from home, so they just go to school and, you know, ( ( eh ) ), you know, I'll get through the day, and, uh, bring homework home and, there's nobody to, to sit them down and say, you're going to do this. Uh, just, you know, they, they take a notion to do it, they do, and, uh, that does n't work either, you know, they have to have guidance and uh, they ca n't just have it at school and then come home and there's nothing, you know.", "Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I know that that, that was a big factor for me. I ended up coming out of, of the public school system very well and was very good education, uh, ended up getting some scholarships to go to college and which has been, you know, which is really nice, and"]}
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{"turn_id": ["2593_0", "2593_1", "2593_2", "2593_3", "2593_4", "2593_5", "2593_6", "2593_7", "2593_8", "2593_9", "2593_10", "2593_11", "2593_12", "2593_13", "2593_14", "2593_15"], "speaker_role": ["Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2"], "utterance": ["So, the, the topic is hobbies", "In your spare time.", "Yeah. Who has spare time Um, I do n't really, do n't really do any handicraft things like that. I used to. I used to do, like salt ornaments and things. But that was, oh, good many, many years ago and I have, I really, my spare time I usually go do aerobics and read, and that's,", "Yeah. I understood that. I'm, you know, I work full time and I have two kids so my spare time usually involves something with the kids. You know, hobbies, we, I, I ca n't really say that we have hobbies. It's more like maybe projects or something on the weekend. You know, we like to go out", "family. Well, well, that's what I meant by salt that we, we did that like as a family, little ornaments and,", "Oh. Uh huh.", "things like that, and just kind of really got into it. Like during the Christmas season, making them up for other people and things like that. But as far as, I've just never been very skilled at, far, you know, needle, work ( ( cloths ) ). And the things I've tried to do just do n't look very good", "I, I guess mostly as far as, as crafts go, I've done, um, some needlepoint. I've done mostly cross stitching. I used to, uh, do like, um, one that I did for both kids are like, oh, they're plaques with, you know, different kind of animals and then you have their birth date on them, and then you have a little picture of them and you frame them and stuff, but nothing steady. Just when I get some spare time here and there I'll work on it, but, you know, it's nothing that I,", "like you sit and knit every night", "No. Not at all.", "Yeah. I do n't even know how to knit and my mother used to knit, you know, all the time and, and I do n't even know how to knit I'm like, that's a lost art from this family So, um, but, it's not a very good topic it feels like, if, you know, not when you're n, neither one of us are really, I, I have seen things I really like, you know, that were done, especially like needlepoint. Needlepoint, cushions and things. But, it just seems like there'd be so much time involved in it, you know, and, and that the petty point and things like that. It's like, God, it, it seems like it's easier just to go out and buy it already made", " ( ( ) ) I do n't know what, what, is, it's like there, but here a lot of the country stuff is in, you know, a lot of the woodwork, a lot of, uh, stenciling. And, you know, you can go to any, like a flea market and stuff and there's just tons of stuff everywhere and, you know, people just do it in their garage and then on weekends they go out and sell it and during the week they go back and do some more.", "And see, they do that as their job. Whereas, you know, for us it, and they make it cheaper for us to buy So, but, and, I mean, I'm sure it must be relaxing to do things like that because I can remember when I used to do, you know, those little salt, those figurines and things. It was, it was relaxing, you know, creative, you felt very creative. But, it just was so time, time, involved, you know, so much time involved and the different steps and things.", " Okay Well, I think, I think we're okay. I think we did ( ( the ) ) five minutes, so we do n't have to keep talking about nothing anymore Okay. Well, thank you.", "Okay. I hope you have a good rest of your weekend.", "Thanks. Bye bye."]}
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Are, are you married, or...", "Yeah, uh huh. I have, I have two children, I have a seven year old and a three year old. And, uh, so I try to spend as much time as possible with them.", "That's good. Uh, what kind of things do you do?", "Well, um, w, we do a lot of things with them, you know, Ta, Taylor my youngest is, or my oldest is in school and so she has a lot of school programs and things like that. Ho, was it a big change in your life, to, uh have a child.", "Um, yeah, it's really nice, uh, my husband, uh, is working mo, you know, most of the time. He's working long hours, but, uh, I'm staying home. Uh, I'm just working a couple days a month, and, um...", "Oh, uh huh. What do you do during those, those days?", "Um, we spend a lot of time at the playground and we go to the zoo, and we go and we wa,...", "Well you said, you said you worked a couple days a month, though, what do, what do you do?", "I'm a nurse.", "Oh, are you?", "So, yeah, so it's, it's, it's real easy to work out my schedule, you know, to, uh, get in, to, to still stay in with that, an, and to have enough time to spend with Matthew. He, he's, uh, just now really starting to, to get interested in a lot of things, so, um,", "Yeah, I understand that, yeah. They really grow up quick. Especially at that early age. But my, my wife was, uh, she worked part time when my oldest was, was little and now she's staying home all the time, but, uh, that worked out really well because it's a big transition I think to have children. You know, to go from, you know, nothing, you know, if you want to do something every night that's fine, but when you have children it does n't work that way anymore, so.", "That's right, and I think a lot of people are, um, are turning to, well, I think, I think a lot of people are realizing that but still there are so many people that are, you know, have their careers first and, it's, uh, I think it's really hurting, uh, the kids, you know, but.", "Yeah, I agree with you, I, I, I think that my wife leaned that way and I'm really glad she did and, you know, I'm glad she's staying home, but, you know, I know there are some days when she wi, she wishes she was back at work.", "That's why I like to to, to work a couple days, I think it's, uh, it gives me a break.", "Yeah, well t, see that's, that's why I'm glad my wife did too,'cause she worked either two to thre, three days a week and that got her out of the house and yet she'd get to spend, you know, three or four days with...", "Most of the time at home, yeah.", "Yeah, yeah, and so.", "Uh, we had started out like that and, um, I think that was really ideal, uh.", "Yeah, I do to, I agree, but then when you start having two of them, it's, you know, a little bit tougher, because you've got to make a little more money, to make that payoff and stuff.", "Yeah, yeah, it's difficult, but.", "Are, are you from the Maryland area?", "Uh huh, I'm, I've, I've lived here forever, so. Yeah, I me, I live in Germantown, and, uh. Are you, where are you from?", "Um, uh, I'm in Dallas, Texas.", "In Dallas, oh.", "Yeah, so, uh, I'm, I've lived here like eight years or so, my wife's from Fort Worth. But, yeah, I work for Texas Instruments.", "Okay, oh, so that explains.", "Yeah, that explains it does n't it.", "Well, um, I do n't know, I, uh, we, we do a lot of things on the weekends together, the family, but, uh, as far as during the week, it's, it's usually, uh, you know, just my son and I, and we're...", "Yeah, what's your husband do?", "Uh, he, he works for Coca Cola. So he, uh, he manages a plant out here, an, and it takes a lot of time.", "Oh, yeah, I'm sure it does.", "But, um, it, you know, we take walks, and go to the library, and try to fill our day with things like that, but, um.", "Yeah, what, uh, my wife did some teaching at like, uh, like a private tutoring place. A Sylvan Learning Center this year and so that, that got me to sp, to be able to spend more time with the kids at night and stuff, you know,'cause normally if, if they need something they just go to mom. No matter what it is, I mean, I cou, I'm perfectly capable of doing it for them, but, it's so much easier to go to mom, I guess they get used to it. So, but, you know, we'd go to the library and do things like that, yeah, but", "That's good, that's good. I know my husband was real, uh, in the beginning when he, uh, he was transferred to a, a larger plant and he, uh, he works about an hour and a half away from here, from our home, and, uh, so it takes him a little bit of time. And I'm not able to work during the week, uh, because of that. He was, I was working in the evening, and he was coming home and I, I could go to work, but, uh, their relationship, uh, when I was able to work in the evenings, uh, really grew. He, you know, just the time that they were spending together, I think it, it really, it really helped to have that time together.", "Uh huh, it really does because I think yu, you know, you grow closer. Was your, uh, was your husband, I mean naturally a child, I mean ha, had he been around children, or...", "Uh, oh yeah, he has, uh, he has seven other brothers and sisters, and they have, we have thirteen grand, well his parents have thirteen grandchildren. So it's, uh, you know, there's a lot of kids in the family and, and he really enjoys it. But, uh, right now it's kind of a difficult time, but... And, and the cost of living here is just so tremendously, you know, outrageous Um, it's difficult, uh, to do it any other way.", "Yeah, I understand. I'm, I, you know it's, it's hard because, you know, then you're not getting to spend as much time with, at home, I mean your husband is not getting to spend as much time at home as he'd want to. So, yeah, that that's a tough situation, but then, then again, you know, some, you got to do what you got to do, you know to get along, too, so.", "Yeah, yeah, at least, I, I just consider myself blessed that I can stay home It, uh,", "Uh huh, we, well like I said my wife normally feels that way, there are days when, uh, I come home and she says here take these kids, I'm getting out. So she's, she's had about enough during those days, but. But, for the most part, I, you know, I've really feel like that's led, the way that, you know, we, jus, like what you said with the cost of living and everything, I think a lot of people ca n't afford to get by on just one salary an And so I think that's le, tended to lead to a decline in, in families and family values especially.", "Oh yeah, it has.", "And I really think that that's one of the problems the nation's facing that, you know, we need to do something about, but I do n't know what.", "I believe that too, and I think, uh, the kids are where they need to, you know, they need to really focus on the children in the wor, in this country.", "Yeah. Would, would you have said that a couple of years ago, do you think?", "No, I did n't, I did n't even really think about it that much, I mean, you know, I, I was aware, vaguely aware of it, but, um, I did n't it was n't really that important to me, and, uh,...", "Uh huh, it's amazing how your whole focus on life changes after you've had a child.", "Oh, it, it really does, I, just the whole, uh, you know, seeing how you really are cre, are, are forming this, you know, the mind", "Well, you know, in the next year or so, you'll see so many instances where, you know, he'll mimic something that you've done, and you see, you know, everything I'm doing, he's learning from. And, and, you think, if I was n't here he'd be learning that from a baby sitter or from a day care. You know, th, that's how they're developing their patterns. And I think a lot of people either, do n't care, or do n't realize it, you know. That's,", "Or, or they just put it in the back of their mind and let it slide. I, I've seen a lot of people just say well, you know, he'll learn everything when he gets into, uh, you know,", "Yeah, it's true.", "but it, um, I, I know, even just this first year, that I've been with, uh, my son, h, here, um, he's, I can just see how much, of, of a difference it makes staying home with him, instead of, uh, ( ( ) ),", "Yeah, plus, plus I think it becomes part of y, part of you too, I mean, you get to stay home, I mean it's not just for him, but it's also for you, because you're both kind of bonding together there too, I think, so.", "Yeah, that's true.", "Well it's been nice talking to you.", "Well it's nice talking to you, too.", "Okay good luck."]}
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Do you want to tell me about ( ( summer ) ) vacations you've taken or,", "Well, I, I tend to, uh, take two kinds of vacations, the vacations to visit family and the vacations to just have a week being cultural and going to the theater and doing sight seeing and things like that.", "Which is your favorite?", "Oh, well, I could n't live without the family vacations, but, uh, my favorite is the, the indulgent ones, where we go off and, and, uh, see places that have interested me since I was a kid, for the most part. And, uh,", "Your family does n't live close, then?", "Uh, not anymore. They, uh, they've been in San Diego for the last few years, and they're moving to Florida. And that's one of those things, you just have to go once a year.", "Yep, I understand.", "So, uh, basically it, it sorts out into that, and then once, about once every three or four years I try to get over to England, because I lived there for a while, some years back.", "I've only been there once. and I'd love to go back.", "Beautiful country. Beautiful country,", "And it was,", "But, uh, and I'd real,", " we had a great time.", " really like to go because, um, I'm fairly recently married and, and my husband has been hearing about these people for years and, uh, but he's never met them, so, uh, I'd like, I'd like to do that. But anyway, that's, that's our typical vacation, and, uh, we enjoy the family vacations, but the other ones are very special getaways, and we probably take one of each every year. How about yourself?", "Well, uh, we, we, as you do, take family vacations, uh, sometimes one a year, and, but this year we're not going to be taking one for several reasons. But vacations we really enjoy, I think we've been on three cruises.", "Oh, I've never, been on a cruise.", "we really love cruises. We've gone on CARNIVAL CRUISE LINES. And, uh, we've gone fairly inexpensive from, as most cruises go. Uh, we usually book just a month before it's ready to go. And we get upgraded. Last ti, last two times, in fact, we had an outside room and it was beautiful. And we like not having to take our suitcase in and out of hotel rooms and drag it all around. It's kind of,", "Well, what do you do on a cruise? I've never been on a cruise.", "Oh, my God, you do everything. You, I mean, you can be as busy as you want to be, or as laid back as you want to be. You can sit in the sun all day around the pool, or you can take part in the games that they have going on. They always have bingo. They have a casino. Uh, they have a massage parlor. They have exercise, I mean, you can do anything. And that's just aboard ship. And then when the ship docks, you get to go sight seeing and shopping. And that's quite fun.", "Uh huh. And where have you been on these cruises?", "Uh, Nassau, San Juan, Saint Thomas. We've been there twice. We went two cruises that hit those islands, but with different people. We, we've gone with friends each time. And then we went to, uh, the western Caribbean, which is, uh, Port, uh, Cancun, Cozumel,", " Oh, the, the Mexican coast.", " and Ocho Rios. Pardon me?", "That's all Mexico, I think.", "Yes, uh huh. And, but it was wonderful. So we really like those. And, uh, I guess we just like to go someplace, someplace entirely different. We've been to a few places in this country. We still have a lot to see, though.", "Where are you from originally?", "We're from Illinois originally. And we've been down in Texas eighteen years, and so, like you, we always try to make it, you know, back home to see the relatives. We both still have family there. And that's fun. It brings back a lot of memories. Uh, things are different there, though. They're, uh, I do n't know. It's just entirely different world than this ( ( area ) ).", "Well, I, I grew up in Dallas, so I mean, it's not, it's not like I'm going home. My, my parents retired first to San Diego, and they're going now to Florida, and so they're going very nice places, thank God, that will be a pleasure to visit and get to know. I really came to love San Diego and feel very, comfortable there. They've been there eight years. And, uh, you know, I just grab the car and drive everywhere.", "Oh, that's great.", "So it, it is, it is nice, but it's not home. This is home, and, um, and I've never thought about a cruise. It's so funny.", "Oh, they, they, they really are. We've, yeah, as I said, we've done them three times. We'd be going again this, this year if circumstances had n't changed. We, we'd probably go. My husband would, you know, the minute I said the word, he, he, he's chomping at the bit. He kind of likes the casinos a little bit. But I like all of that.", "What's the best part, from your point of view?", "I like seeing other countries and shopping in other places. I like shopping. I can shop anyplace, shop in London and France and wherever. Now, my kids are moving to Toronto, so we're going to be able to go up there.", "Oh, that will be nice.", "So I'm kind of looking forward to that, except I hate to see them go.", "Sure. Well, go in, do n't go in the winter.", "Oh, that's what everybody says, and I, I think it's, I think I'll try to stay away, except my, my second grandchild will be born in in the winter in January. So that will be hard to stay away from.", "Well, th, there are exceptions made for special occasions like that. But the ordinary thing is to stay out of the north in the winter and get out of Texas in the summer so,", "Is n't that the truth, uh huh.", "Huh. Well, that sounds wonderful. I, I guess I, I would contemplate going on a cruise, uh, oh, all circumstances permitting it.", "Well, there's all age grou, groups too, and that's, that's kind of fun. Uh, you, if you sit at a table with a lot of people for your meals, you meet different people. You may meet people, you know, thirty years older than you, or younger, and everybody is really interesting, and everybody is there to have a good time and,", "Huh. How long are the cruises?", "Uh, we've only gone on the seven day cruises. They have shorter ones and then they have ten day ones. But I think seven days is long enough for us. By that time we're ready to get home and get back to our routine. I think most vacations, uh, seven days is enough for us. We've gone, I think when we went to England and France, we were there ten, twelve days, and that was pushing it a bit.", "Yeah. Uh, I tend, when, when I spend enough money to go overseas I, go for a long time.", "Well, that, that makes sense, it really does. I mean, oh, we went to Panama too.", "Oh, that's interesting.", "Went to Panama last August. Our son in law is from Panama. And, uh, we went with our daughter and son in law to visit his parents, who live there. And his father is a, a doctor and his mother is a kindergarten teacher, and they took time off, it was their winter and they were having a little break, so they took some time off that, uh, they could show us around. And it, it is a beautiful country. It is beautiful. They have mountains. We were an hour away from the mountains or an hour away from the shore.", "That's really nice.", "And it, it is gorgeous. They live in a small town called David, which is northern Panama up near Costa Rica. And, uh, it's, it's just, it's just a gorgeous country. Most people do n't realize it. I think if they could get tourists coming to their country, they'd improve the economy considerably.", "Huh. Well, may, maybe now things are calming down again. That will happen.", "We really hope, hope so.", "Well, that, that's really great. Uh, I, I mean, as I said, basically all I've done is go back and forth to parents and, uh,", "Well, that, that's, that's pretty good. That's pretty good.", "And, and, uh, we had, ( ( ) ) my husband had a conference in L A, so we spent a week in L A and of course,", "Oh, do you like L A?"]}
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What have you seen lately?", "Well, uh, it's funny, when I tried, to make the call the other days, I thought, I had n't seen anything since DANCES WITH WOLVES but today I went to see REGARDING WITH HENRY.", "Oh, I'm dying to see that.", " It was really good. We uh, Jeff Wariner just got out of the hospital and, uh, Jeff and Deeanna went and another friend in the neighborhood, and, uh, we all liked it. We had both moms and, uh, fifteen year olds and a twelve year old and", "Oh, my goodness.", "everyone enjoyed it. And, uh,", " Oh, well I am just dying to see it. I went to dinner with some friends last weekend and they said get a baby sitter and we'll all go see REGARDING HENRY and I said, ooh, I want to see it so bad.", "Well, my son had gotten to see a lot of movies this summer, on, choir tour and visiting friends and one thing and another. A lot of the ones I had wanted to see and so since he had this friend up from Houston, uh, and his friend had already seen so many and I thought they decided on this and I thought well, I want to see this one, too. So, we, uh, I finally, it's my first summer movie", "Oh my. Well, let me see. Was it, well, we went to see ONE HUNDRED AND ONE DALMATIANS last weekend and that may be, no, right before I went in the hospital my girlfriend said come on, we're going to the movies. And we wo n't, well she goes all the time but I go maybe once every couple of months. And when I go, I go see two at a time. So we went to see SOAPDISH, and", " Oh, was that good? Cause,", "Oh, hysterical. We laughed so hard, it was just, you could n't hear half the dialogue because everyone in the audience was laughing", " Well, I want to see that and CITY SLICKERS both. I love comedies. But, that's what I was", " that's the other one that we went to that night.", "Oh, was it?", "And, my face hurt so bad, because I love Billy Crystal. And course, growing up on, on the back of a horse, you know, and being on ranches and stuff, so much of that was so true and I was absolutely rolling in the aisles. It was so funny. Both of them were great.", "Oh, well good. I'm, I'm glad to hear that because they,", " Oh, they are, are we just laughed so hard. And like I said, with CITY SLICK, I mean with SOAPDISH, it is so cornball and it is so overacted that you're just hysterical you know. Just, they just carried it off, to the tee.", "Well, I do n't, I do n't know if you got to see WEEKEND, um, AT BERNIE'S that was out a couple of years ago. They had a free showing at the Berkeley, um, United Artist. And, I do n't know who was here or whether Jay called a friend and we did n't think we'd have much chance of getting in but we thought we'd try it, you know, free movie. It was so funny and it sounds like, uh, what you were just describing, SOAPDISH, too. I mean, we just, we hurt by the time we came out. And the whole theater was hysterical and it's just, it's just goofy. I mean, it's, uh, if you have a chance to rent it, at least, or it should be out on T V, I would think,", " Yeah, I think it is. I think it is.", "Um, cause it's, it's just a fun summer light comedy, make your cheeks hurt laughing. Especially in the theater it was contagious, you know I, I imagine the way SOAPDISH was, but, with", " I never laughed. And people were just screaming and applauding and, you know, it was just hysterical.", "Well, I'm glad you did that before your surgery", "Oh, me too, because I do n't even know if I could live through it now. I mean I'm getting around real good and I'm just still real sore. And today I was, I, course I went back to work two weeks after, uh but see I do n't have permanent work. I, right now I'm working with a temporary agency. And so, the second week I was out of the hospital I went up and worked half day on the computers cause you can learn all the software for free. Oh, so I went up to do WordPerfect cause that seems like that's what everybody wants, and I was up there half a day and came home and collapsed. And then they called me to see if I wanted to work a day. And I said, yeah, and I went and of course it took me the whole weekend to recover from that. And, uh, I worked about three days a week ever since, two to three days a week. And so I went to my doctors last Thursday, and this was my fourth week checkup and he said well gosh, you're just healing really well, I just ca n't get over this. He says, in two weeks you can go back to doing your crazy normal things. If you want to play ball, you can go play ball. He says, now I'm not going to say you're going to feel like playing ball but you can if you want to. And, uh, you know, he was teasing me and he says, yeah, you'll be out there waterskiing, I can just see it now. And, uh, he says so you just take it easy for two more weeks. You've only got two more weeks. I said okay fine, I, I will, I will Whatever you call easy, I'll do it, you know. But and I've been out trying to find a job because this is just not cutting it.", "Yeah. Yeah faintly > >.", "And so, I do n't, I'm real glad that we did n't go see those funny ones when I was, when I'm still sort of on the sore side. But, well, wha, what's your next, have you seen ROBIN HOOD yet?", "No, that was one, uh, Jay got to see with a friend and so I and to try and, uh, try and find time it's hard, uh, with Jim's schedule, too, just to get a time that we can both go. And, uh, I'm holding out for CITY SLICKERS for the two of us because, uh, we had friends that went to see that and said, you know, it's just perfect for our age group and because I think he, he needs a comedy, too. Uh, and that's what he would have liked to have seen REGARDING HENRY, too, but knew that, uh, we've, we've got a lot of company this summer, which is wonderful. We're really enjoying it but some of the different things we're doing, uh there's just not a time, enough time to do it all and he said, well, realistically You know, he knew he could n't get them all in. But, uh, Jay really liked ROBIN HOOD. Um, when the choir group went to see BACKDRAFT and they thought that was, uh, it was funny cause he sounded like the critics. He said, you know the plot line and the characters, uh, you know are n't real big but the, the fire scenes and the dra, you know that action part is fantastic. But, he thought ROBIN HOOD was great. It was real different then you'd expect, but h but he enjoyed it and so,", " Well I went, course I am a Kevin Costner fan.", "Yeah, me too. And yeah, I really, uh, like him a lot. Which is why, DANCES WITH WOLVES was the last movie we had seen for several months but,", " Gosh, was that wonderful.", "It was, I, uh, in fact, uh, a friend from Germany was visiting in March and we wanted, we did n't, ran out of time, we wanted to take him to see it. We were going to sit through it again cause we really wanted him to see it, too. Uh, I just thought that was terrific. And I really enjoy Harrison Ford which is one of the reasons I wanted to see,", " I do, too. I think he's really good.", "And he's very good in REGARDING HENRY. That's not an easy part to play, I, I do n't think faintly > >.", "I would n't think. Well, my kids are going to their Dad's tomorrow night so I sort of think I may go do that.", "Yeah. That's at, that one wo n't your sides Um, it, was this the first time you got to see ONE HUNDRED AND ONE DALMATIANS? Or,", "I hav, my parents took me when I was probably somewhere between Ashley and Jamie's age begin to fade > >."]}
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So are you a, a, a golfer or are you a spectator?", "Oh, I'm a, I play golf but I do n't actually play golf.", "Well, I'm the same way. I, I go out there and hit the ball.", "Hack it all over the place? It's sickening, is n't it?", "Um, uh, well, in the Carolinas it's, it's just, you know, we've got a bunch of golf courses around here.", "Yeah. We've got tons up here but I do n't know. How do you feel about your game? I guess that's a good question?", "Uh, well, I mean I'm not a serious golfer at all, uh, uh, a friend of mine goes golfing a lot and he drags me out every now and then and I, uh, I do n't have a, I do n't really even have a game. I usually when I go out and play golf it's usually like at a, at one of these par threes that, you know, you, but, um, I like watching it on T V.", "Yeah, I like that too. I do n't know I try to play, but God, I, a couple years ago I played two, three times a week and got lousy. I guess that's the best I ever got was lousy. And I thought I was really improving and the big break was going to come and then I got worse again so.", "( ( to get me ) ) they, they say I hit worm burners because I, I ca n't hit it up in the air. So I'm pretty bad but I, I, I get great distance hitting it, you know, ( ( ) ) across the ground, and if it's going over water or something one of them have to take the shot for me because I'm, but I'm getting better. I've got where now I can hit it in, in the air some of the time.", "That's pretty good.", "Yeah. Uh, so I'm kind of a novice at it.", "Um, I'm that and worse. I, I play next year I, actually I take it kind of seriously but I've been doing so bad. Next year, I always say this every year, but next year I'm starting over from scratch. I'm going to go take lessons and everything. I'm going to do it right, and see if I can actually play this game or not.", "Well, that I, I guess that's what I need to do is, is get some kind of lessons or something. Because I, my, my tee off is not bad, I mean I'm, I'm good up to everything else putting and stuff like that it's just, that, that initial tee", "Yeah, what do you do when you're putting? That's a good thing. That's something I could learn actually. That's when I do my worst. I finally get to the green and I think I'm doing all, all fine and then,", "Just walking around the hollow and making sure there's not really, you know, checking the ground and, and so forth, you know. See how it's going to break or whatever.", "Can you really see it though? What about the speed?", " If you get, if you get down on the ground you really can.", "Can you tell ho, no, but can you tell how, how fast you're going to hit it?", "Um, well, if you know if it's up on a slope that you've got to hit it not kill it but you've got to hit enough speed and the right angle that it's, it's, you know, because when it's going up a hill it's going to break in a direction.", " Yeah, but you can feel that? I do n't know I have, I can gi, get it within like, you know, four or five feet or something but I do n't have enough field. Now I'm T V watching. They make you die at the hole every time. Oh, it just dies and rolls in. I do n't know, it's hard for me.", "The, the, it's, it's like I said once I get up on the green I'm fine, but that, that tee shot, uh, it, you know, when teeing off i, I'll go probably a hundred feet across the ground so it, it takes me awhile to get to the hole but,", "Once you're there, you're all set though.", "I'm all set.", "We should play team golf then. I'll get us there and you put it in.", "( ( ) ) that sounds good to me.", "I s, oh, the T V golfers they do that. It takes them two to get there and two to get it in so it's fifty percent. And me it takes me five to get there and five to get it in.", "Well, it, it, it usually takes me about probably two, two or three to get it there and, and then, that's according to the hole and it ju, uh, uh, maybe one or two putts. It's, according to where I'm at on the green. But the friends I play with, uh, they play all the time and, and they're really good. Uh, they're not Joe Pros but they, they golf in the high sixties low seventies so I guess they're pretty good", "That's pretty good. For eighteen?", "Yeah. For eighteen.", "Wow, that's pretty good. I'm talking to the wrong guy. Your shitty golf is probably the best golf I've ever seen.", "No, no, no, that's not my golf. That's my friends. Mine, mine, I'm, I'm usually in the eighties or nineties so I'm, I'm not good", "If, when I'm in the nineties I'm feeling good. I'm usually around a hundred. That's my thing. Around a hundred. You know, I can hit a great drives and think I'm going to do all awesome on this hole but it ai n't going to happen.", "Well, I either, teeing off I either slice it or I hook it ever single time and, and I alternate."]}
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What would we like to say I think,Uh huh. I think that's what the subject is about.", "Did you read, uh, the article in the paper today about this particular subject?", "In the Dallas, the MORNING TIMES? I guess I did not.", "Uh, the state of Washington and the state of Minnesota is, uh, going to begin testing a program, a state funded program for citizens of those two states and there's fourteen other, uh, states that are considering it. Least according to the article in the paper this morning. I think it's a trend that's, that's, that's, uh, probably may go nationwide eventually because I think national health is something that we all need. It's getting to a point that you have to have it, you have to have some form of health insurance.", "Well, it's been interesting that we,", "Extremely expensive, though.", "Yes. So we live in a society, though, where everyone if you ask them on polls, will, uh, say that they think that everyone has a right to health care. And yet, I do n't think we've ever quite decided who's really supposed to pay for it.", "Well, that's the thing, you know, uh, unfortunately the ones that currently pay and pay the premiums for health insurance are, are paying for the people that do n't have health insurance.", "Which is why people are talking about we ought to just admit it perhaps and then try and somehow subsidize it in a way that's more fair.", "I do n't think you, uh,", "You have health insurance?", "Yes, I do.", "Through your company?", "Uh, through my company, yes. But I have been in a situation, uh, recently where I was laid off from a position as a sales manager of a company and was off work for about a year and my wife developed cancer. We did n't have any", "Oh, my goodness.", "insurance. And it was a", "That's must have been hard", "go to Parkland type situation.", "How was your care at Parkland?", "Uh, because it was a life threatening situation, it was very good. Uh, as it, as it turned out one of the top, uh, people, or one of the top doctors in the state that is involved in cancer treatment was at Parkland.", "But, yet, Parkland is not free, either.", "No, it's not free, but, uh,", "Is it affordable?", "It's, it's a situation that because I did n't have any insurance and I was on unemployment, it was paid by the county.", "So you did have a good experience.", "I had a bad experience as it turned out. Uh, I was fortunate that there was Parkland.", "Is your wife better, I hope?", "Uh, no she passed away.", "I'm real sorry.", "That's all right.", "Sure. * listen ; is this a question? It does happen, but it's very sad.", "Yeah, but in any event, uh, I'm in favor of national health. If I had to vote for it.", "Actually, uh, I'm a pediatrician", "Oh, is that right?", "and I feel very strongly about, uh, children, and, uh, developed very strong feelings about this during our measles epidemic Where we certainly proved that we're not doing a very good job with preventive health care among children and particularly the children who need it most. So, uh, I'm really quite active in trying to, uh, be proactive at least for children's issues. It's very complex, very complicated, but, uh, I strongly believe that all children have a right to immunization, glasses, hearing aids basic health benefits.", "Well, I, when I grew up and I grew up in south central Kansas, uh, we had, and my mom worked for the health department, the county health department and we had x rays every year, we had a dentist come to our school and, uh, check our teeth once a year at least. Uh, we had all our flu shots taken care of, our measles, mumps, rubella and all that other stuff. And, uh, when my children were growing up, we did n't have that. We had to pay for it, which I was n't opposed to paying for it. I had the money to pay for it, but I'm sure that there were people that do n't.", "Well, and the costs have, so much has gone up so much. The cost of immunizations for example, uh, and just the legal the legal benefits, uh, that has really forced people into doing a lot of things unnecessarily, et cetera. So, well, I do n't know, it's, it is interesting, in case you did n't know, Texas leads the nation in uninsured children. Thirty one percent of all Texas children", "Did not know that.", "do not have insurance and are not on Medicaid. So, uh, one out of every three children has nothing to reimburse them for their health care. And I work in the children's Parkland system and it's pretty overwhelming to me."]}
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{"turn_id": ["3876_0", "3876_1", "3876_2", "3876_3", "3876_4", "3876_5", "3876_6", "3876_7", "3876_8", "3876_9", "3876_10", "3876_11", "3876_12", "3876_13", "3876_14", "3876_15", "3876_16", "3876_17", "3876_18", "3876_19", "3876_20", "3876_21", "3876_22", "3876_23", "3876_24", "3876_25", "3876_26", "3876_27", "3876_28", "3876_29", "3876_30", "3876_31", "3876_32", "3876_33", "3876_34", "3876_35", "3876_36", "3876_37", "3876_38", "3876_39", "3876_40", "3876_41", "3876_42"], "speaker_role": ["Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1"], "utterance": ["Okay, so now what are your opinions on recycling?", "Well, I definitely think that we need to start recycling. I think it has got to be an individual responsibility until, I think if we wait, uh, which is happening until somebody says we have to do it it is going to be to late. I have heard reports around here that the landfills will be full by the year two thousand.", "Yeah, I have heard that too.", "And that is not too far away, but I do n't know how it is there. It is very difficult here even if you care like I do to do much. I take, my paper, I can take plastic and paper bags back to the grocery store and I can take plastic like milk cartons or if they have water in them and there are some fire stations I can take newspapers to and that is very inconvenient cause I have to wait until I have enough of them to make the trip worthwhile.", "Well see, I started saving newspapers and I would take a ton of them and, uh, that's, I ca n't remember where I went to take them, but they would n't take them.", "Yeah. It is real hard to find a spot and then, I do n't know if you note, even doing that, the amount of trash we throw away is incredible bottles", " Oh I know.", "glass that can not be, it could be recycled, but there is no place to,", "There is no really recycling facilities.", " No. We have a pilot program in Arlington going on I think in the north part of the city where they are have people people separate the garbage as, the trash as they put it out.", "I think that is a good idea.", "And I think that is what it is going to have to come to. Where we are just forced to.", "Besides, well like a law or whatever. An, that's how it is in New York is n't it.", "I think so, just because they have to.", "And you get ticketed if you do n't do it right.", "Right, uh huh. And I think it is going to come to that because some people will just not go to the, it's, It's trouble for me to do what I do I mean, I am willing to do it but,", "Plus you have to have a place to store all of it and see I live in an apartment.", "Yeah. It is very difficult. Like our garage is always full of sacks of newspapers and, so, I do n't know. I think there needs to be more places and also I have a real strong opinion. In Iowa, the state I am from uh, I believe it has gone up to a dollar now. Every time you buy a container, no matter what it is, whether it is glass, whether it's a beer can or a fifth of whiskey or a pop or whatever, you pay ten cents for it and then you take it back to the store and you get it back.", "Uh, so that way it kind of forces you to recycle.", "You are forced to. And, uh, you also do n't see the litter there. People just,", " Yeah, that's true.", "It makes it worthwhile to take it back and I've just started drinking a new water called Clearly Canadian, I do n't know if you've tried it", "Yeah, I have seen them.", "and they have on the ba, it's five cents, that they pay five cents and it even shows the states that,", "That take them back.", "Yeah. Well, on, some of them are five, some are ten cents. I am looking at it right now.", "Is Texas one of them?", "Texas is not one of them see. So, I have to throw them away cause there is no place to take glass.", "Yeah. No, I do n't think that there is enough being done. Now, I work at J C PENNY at their corporate headquarters. And we have a paper recycling program that, uh, is company wide and I do the recycling for that.", "Do they save like the paper they they use at the office paper. Good. Because there is a lot of waste there is n't there.", "Yeah. And I know there is a lot of computer paper that you ca n't use. But, uh, we use to have, uh, I mean, I do n't even remember how much money that they've, uh, I mean, the money that they've made from the recycling program. They have donated it to charities. they have made a substantial amount of money from it.", "Something else I think we do can do is support companies that encourage like, I have decided Downy Fabric Softener now has where you can buy a little carton you add wa, well, I image everybody else will start doing that sooner or later, but I am going to stick with Downey because they were first. And I want them to have my business. And I think packaging could be done much better. There is so much plastic. But,", " Well I know, you see some of the stuff and then when they come out with the new things, you are like, well why did n't you think of that before.", "Yeah. Yeah. And I think that it's just people have got to be aware. Unfortunately, there are a lot of people that just do n't care and they do n't want to think about it.", "Yeah, that's true.", "And, uh, I just look at it, I do n't want my grandchildren looking at me and saying why did n't you do something. You know, I want to feel like I at least tried. And I do n't know. It just may overwhelm us here when we run out of places to put it. Then we will be forced to. It may be too late.", "Do they not ever, I mean, I do n't know that much. Do they not ever burn trash or anything like,", "Very little. That's another thing that, see there were no,", " Then, that's pollution.", "I know Amway. I use a couple of things from Amway that it says this is burnable material. Well, that does n't do me any good because I do n't have any place to burn it.", "Yeah, I know. I guess you run into the pollution factor.", "Yeah. And then just like the glass bottles, that it says on the bottle I can get ten cents, but not in Texas. And there is no place I can take glass to. So, I still throw away a lot of glass.", "It is really sad."]}
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{"turn_id": ["4049_0", "4049_1", "4049_2", "4049_3", "4049_4", "4049_5", "4049_6", "4049_7", "4049_8", "4049_9", "4049_10", "4049_11", "4049_12", "4049_13"], "speaker_role": ["Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2"], "utterance": ["Well, uh, I myself am not in favor of drug testing in the work place except in, in specific, uh, very specific in this, uh, very specific examples such as, uh, transportation workers, as in, uh, air traffic controllers, bus drivers and that kind of thing. Um, I do n't really think that it's, uh, too many, I think it's a severe invasion of somebody's privacy to say, well, we're going to look at your urine and then decide whether you're, uh, you know, worthy of working for us. I really do n't see that that's a very, very valid, uh, thing for a company to say, and I, personally, I do n't think I would work for somebody if they were going to reject me on the basis of what's inside my body.", "Yeah, uh, I guess I basically agree that, uh, do you think it's okay for a company to reject somebody knowing that they'll take drugs? I mean suppose they found out some other way?", " Well, I think, I think we, I think the problem here is, is that a, a drug test does not necessarily imply that someone is taking drugs or not taking drugs. There's too many cases where it can, you know, there can be false positive results, and that, that sort of thing. I do n't think there's any definitive, you know, okay this person is taking drugs, so we do n't want him here. Uh, like I said, some industries, though, I think it'd be very necessary, I would n't want any air traffic controllers high or anything like that when I'm flying in an airplane. But, uh, I, I just, I find it to be pretty offensive that, that it's such a, a big deal. I mean, if your employer's not going to trust you or, you know, it, I just, I think it's a whole trust issue. I just ca n't see it.", "But, have you ever been in a situation where you, you were drug tested or,", "Uh, yeah, I have been.", " I once too, so.", "I mean, I was very offended by, by the whole process. I mean it's very humiliating, and, I mean, I'm not speaking in favor of drugs or against drugs, but I, uh, I am totally against that sort of a, uh, I mean it's, it's a pretty personal thing when somebody says I want to look at your urine before I'm going to talk to you.", "Yeah. I had it during a job interview, and I just thought it was dumb of the company, at a point where they were trying to convince me to, to want to work for them to do this, and I'm just like, well, uh, I'm not even going to think much about it if you're going to treat me with this much respect even before you've gotten to know me.", "Right. That's, that's basically my opinion on it, right there, is that it's just, you know, I did, I, I was in the same sort of situation as, it was a job interview and then you had a physical, where you were drug tested, and it's, I just, and I know people who have been drug tested and who have not, you know, been hired by a corporation which, uh, you know, I really. The other side of it is, is, besides its being an invasion of personal privacy, as in my, it's my bodily fluid and I do n't really want you to look at it, or or something pretty basic like that, just to the fact that I do n't know that it is a company's business to regulate what its employees are doing when they're not at work. I mean, during the eight hours, during the day, when they're supposed to be there, I think they have every right to say this is, these behaviors are acceptable and these are not, but when it enters into what they're doing when they're not at work, I find that to be fairly offensive also.", "Yeah, well like you say, I mean, if it's not a critical kind of job where someone could get hurt, then really what people ought to be doing, I mean, the, the employer ought to be judging you on how well you do your work rather than on these other factors. And, I mean, if you are doing drugs and it's causing a problem, then they'll notice it for other reasons.", "That's exactly right. And also I just think it, it gets a lot, I'm a big, uh, supporter of personal freedoms and personal privacies, and I think that it just moves down along a line that, that I really would find bad if, if most people went down that line into regulating employees' lives outside of work, you know, there's already talk of people, well, we're not going to hire you if you smoke. Well, you know, I, I can see how they can say in the work place we, you do n't want them to smoke, but when somebody leaves work, I do n't think that it's the employer's right to regulate their life style at all.", "Well, do you think it's, should be illegal for an employer to do this or,", "Uh, I really think it should be, except as I've mentioned twice now, in the specified industries or, or jobs, because there are certain things where it's just vital that a person is clear minded at all times. And other than that I think, I do not think it should be allowable. I think it should be illegal for them to, to want to do that. It should, it's kind of the big brother syndrome, I mean, I just, anything like that just kind of scares me.", "I tend to, to view it, even though I do n't think I'd work for a company that did that, I sort of want to defend an employer's rights as opposed to an in, uh, in addition to an individual's rights, but an employer, really, I think, has the right to hire someone on any basis they want to and if they say they do n't want smokers, I sort of feel like an employer should have the right to decide whether they want to allow that."]}
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{"turn_id": ["4127_0", "4127_1", "4127_2", "4127_3", "4127_4", "4127_5", "4127_6", "4127_7", "4127_8", "4127_9", "4127_10", "4127_11", "4127_12", "4127_13", "4127_14", "4127_15", "4127_16", "4127_17", "4127_18", "4127_19", "4127_20", "4127_21", "4127_22", "4127_23", "4127_24", "4127_25", "4127_26", "4127_27", "4127_28", "4127_29"], "speaker_role": ["Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2"], "utterance": ["Okay, I thought it was supposed to give a recording, but anyway, uh, well, I do take care of pretty much all of the stuff for, for my wife and for me and uh, I, embarrassed to say, it's pretty trivial. All we, all I do is, uh, keep a list of things like debts that are outstanding and every two or three months update that and every once in a while make a list of what we spent that month, but I doubt I do it more than three times a year.", "Uh huh, do you use a computer?", "No, I work with them all day, I'm in computer science, yet I I do everything on paper Uh, I do n't even use a calculator for the stuff I'm doing because it's all pretty round numbers.", "Yeah, mine is really simple, because I got all our bills paid off when, uh, he was a Marine, he went to Saudi Arabia and while he was gone I got all of our bills paid off, so really the only bills I have is rent, utilities, insurance you know, so they come in, I pay them, and that's it you know, that's about the extent of it, you know. I do n't really have this major budget or anything. I just really, I'm real thrifty. I take care of, you know, two children and me and uh, just real careful with the money, you know. What little we have so, that's what I do.", "Yes, it's pretty straightforward. It's almo, I ca n't imagine having to go into real complicated stuff and making you know, fancy budgets. It seems like if you're getting to that level, y, you're not in real good control.", "Uh uh. You know, I mean, I, I, I've never liked credit cards", "Uh huh faint > >.", "and a lot of debt, you know, you buy something on credit and you pay twice as much for it when you get done. You know so,", "Actually, I mean, I like using credit cards for everything, but just paying off the bills because that way it's a record of everything and I do n't have to worry about keeping records of anything else", "I do n't have", "because they come in at the end of the month.", "I do n't have too many weaknesses, but I found out a credit card was one of them. You know, it's so much easy, easier, you know, if something's on sale if you're a woman and you're a sale person, it's like, oh, it's on sale, let's go grab it, you know so, uh, and if you do n't have the money, then use a credit card, so, I got rid of them credit cards.", "Yeah, I guess if that's if that's a weakness, that's a good thing to do.", "Yeah, that was my weakness It was n't bad, I mean, I did n't have like thousands of dollars, you know, and like that, just, I just learned that that was n't for me, you know. So, but I, self employed, you know, I have my own little cleaning business type thing, so, uh, I keep,", "Do you find trouble keeping the records for taxes and all that or,", "No, it's not hard, I just keep it in a notebook and write down what I've made and, uh, you know, what it's going to have to go for that month and you know, it's not that, not that hard. Not at all.", "Well, that's good to know.", "So, I always do my own income tax, you know.", "I do n't understand the idea of paying somebody to, to do it. It seems like it's absurd the number of people who end up having to pay somebody to do it.", "R, all you got to do is read a book, I mean read the little book they send you", "Yeah, just the form.", "fill in the blanks and go. I mean, it seems absurd that people will pay, you know, some bucks just to get", "Yeah, and a lot of them.", "someone to, it's dumb I guess if you had some really complicated stuff, but I do n't, so, I do n't mess with it. But, I do n't use a calculator either, you know I do n't, I do n't have that mu, that many, you know, things to add up so,", "I do n't trust myself with using a calculator or computer, y, too much stuff like that because I want to make sure that, that I, I keep on top of the numbers and understand what's going on. I know too many people who use a calculator if they make a mistake, they find out two months later because they were n't paying attention.", " And we have a,", " And it seem,", "I bank at N C N B here and they have a number that you can call in, and I always call in and, like, once every other week or so and I will, uh, check off what checks have cleared and, Do you do that?", "We have the same thing.", "You do too? And I always check them off and, you know, check my balance and my book and, you know, because I always want to know exactly what I have, you know. I do that real often. I do that, so anyway,"]}
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{"turn_id": ["4129_0", "4129_1", "4129_2", "4129_3", "4129_4", "4129_5", "4129_6", "4129_7", "4129_8", "4129_9", "4129_10", "4129_11", "4129_12", "4129_13", "4129_14", "4129_15", "4129_16", "4129_17", "4129_18", "4129_19", "4129_20", "4129_21", "4129_22", "4129_23", "4129_24", "4129_25", "4129_26", "4129_27", "4129_28", "4129_29", "4129_30", "4129_31", "4129_32", "4129_33", "4129_34", "4129_35", "4129_36", "4129_37", "4129_38", "4129_39", "4129_40", "4129_41"], "speaker_role": ["Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2"], "utterance": ["Okay, so, what are, what are your views on capital punishment?", "I have ambivalent feelings because I do n't think it serves as a kind of deterrent we would like to think it is. But, on the other hand, it is very, very expensive to maintain, you know, Texas has one of ( ( the ) ) biggest criminal justice systems in the country. And it's eating us alive budget wise and, uh,", "So are they currently practicing capital punishment in your state?", "do practice capital punishment, but the nature of the, uh, courts and the appeals and the stays and all that means that it's a very long haul before anybody's ever executed.", "Yes, that's similar to Georgia.", "Yeah. And then, I was reading in the paper just this morning, it's interesting because I had forgotten, I guess, that I wrote this little topic down, that it costs more to execute somebody th, than it does to keep them.", "That's probably true considering,", "Because of all the costs of the appeals and all that", "Yes, uh, I guess in a way that, it, it kind of defeats the purpose of having capital punishment if,", "Well, I think capital punishment is supposed to be primarily a deterrent to other people. You know, who would see it.", "Right, that would be the intent of it.", "Yeah, but I'm not sure how successful that is.", "Well, I think it would be more successful if it was applied in a more expedient manner, if there were n't so many Yeah, if, if the person who's going to commit the crime knew that they were going to be punished severely, possibly capital punishment,", "What, what kind of work do you do?", "Uh, I'm a research engineer, I work, uh, f, with Georgia Tech.", "Um, well, see, I'm a school principal. And in a very poor section of town with p, predominantly Anglo kids. And I see kids already that are going to be criminals in spite of everything we can do and, see, I'm afraid I think if we would take the equivalent amount of money and invest it in young people, that, I mean, course, you could n't do that because you got to do something with the ones that are already there but I think we would make a bigger investment in kids, we'd have fewer decisions to make.", "Um, that's probably true, but I guess", "Down the road, you know.", "there's other factors that, But, p, p, pumping more money into the school system is a good thing, but it's not going to,", "I'm not talking about just in the school system.", "Oh, I see.", "See, I'm talking about, like, in, in, uh, I'm afraid I think that there are kids who just ought to be taken out of their homes and reared. Uh, I know the institutions do n't work that well, but ( ( it's ) ) a bad day because I ( ( get ) ) all these kids through my office. I have a school of five hundred and thirty seven kids. Five hundred of them are good, solid kids and I have the same thirty seven in my office every day. And a lot of their parents are totally irresponsible. Some of them in the penal system.", "So that's a difficult situation.", "And, you know, you just see those kids going down the road. Now, not all of them will commit offenses that have to do with capital punishment, but some of them have already been in youth centers. And that kind of thing, and if we had something to do before they get to be full blown adult criminals, and I'm not talking about necessarily in the school system, I'm not sure that the school system should be the agent of all the social action. I think that's one reason we have problems in schools, uh, and some of them are our problems, but a lot of it's because everything society wants, we are supposed to do. But that's another subject but,", "Well, that's probably true. W,", "Anyway, I dealt with two or three kids today that are going to end up where somebody has, making a decision what to do with them.", "Um, yeah, I guess that's not an easy solution. There's, there's no easy solution for that.", "I do n't, I do n't know that there is an easy solution, but if you could find a way to prevent some of it, and I'm not sure what it would be. It would be money better spent than, do you know it costs more to keep an inmate on death row than it does to send a kid to Harvard?", "I'm sure it is, yeah.", "Statistically, that's true.", "Um, yeah, I do n't, I do n't, certainly capital punishment is n't going to solve a lot of problems but,", "Are you for it? I'm for it in", " I guess I am", " in some cases.", " yeah, in certain crimes.", "What kind of crimes would you d, use it for?", "Uh, premeditated murder. Crimes of that nature, I think should definitely, any mass murderer type individual.", "I, I would consider it for sexual abuse of children, on going. You know, not one instance, but perpetual abusers of children.", "Uh huh. Well, you always have castration", "Well, you know, somebody elected that recently.", "Yes, I read about that", "And all the civil rights people are up ( ( in ) ) arms about it, you know."]}
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{"turn_id": ["4153_0", "4153_1", "4153_2", "4153_3", "4153_4", "4153_5", "4153_6", "4153_7", "4153_8", "4153_9", "4153_10", "4153_11", "4153_12", "4153_13", "4153_14", "4153_15", "4153_16", "4153_17", "4153_18", "4153_19"], "speaker_role": ["Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2"], "utterance": ["Okay. Well, um, I used to work in a day care center. I worked in, um, in all the different areas of the day care center and it is, they can be deceiving to people. I did not work there long because I could n't handle the, the treatment that the children got, and this is supposed to be a very well known center here in Tyler who had two or three, um, centers, all over, you know, the, um, city and they would, um, be one way when the parents were there and be another way when the parents left. So, um, I think you need to make, you know, if you do, do day care centers, you know you should make frequent checks and, um, to check in on them when they're not expecting it. Because they do, do things differently when you're not around, so.", "Well that, I know wh, the things that we kind of looked at is, is you want to see how many teachers you have. And, and how many kids they have and how they break it up. Because we had, we had one that sounds kind of like what you were in. It, it was a really good one, and in fact, it worked out for us because my wife, we kind of bartered. My wife did artwork for them and then, you know, so we got our day care free. But they did n't have enough teachers and,", " Well, this one was set up good. I mean they had two teachers to every room. Um, sometimes three. And they had a good system like so when you walked in, everything looks cool. The problem I had was that they did not show affection to the children enough. They did not show them care to these small children who are being left. Um, they, one time I picked up this little boy who was crying and the owner came and just chewed me up one side down the other. You know, he said you are going to have every child in here wanting you to pick them up. And I said, no, this child was crying and needed some comfort, you know, what is your problem. So, um,", "Did, did they separate them by age group? Because I'd think, you know, I think that's one thing that was important.", "Right. They did, they had like, um, the, the crawlers, the babies that did n't walk in one room. The ones that were starting to walk in one room. Then they had like the, um, three, three year olds, upper fours, lower fours, upper fives, lower fives. You know, just like that. You know, they really did separate them well.", " I, it sound, yeah,", " It was just the teachers themselves. Right. But, yeah, that they're not,", " Affectionate people that they're, they're kind of par,", " Yeah. Their system,", " may be parents themselves or something.", "Right. But their, but their system was, was great but, um, the, you know, the caring just was n't there. The one woman that taught that did the babies. I worked with her and she was fabulous. She loved them babies, and she loved them and cared for them. But, um, every one of the others that I saw was just screaming and yelling and, um, you know, would make me a nervous wreck, so, you know.", "Yeah. I, I, I think that's probably a really important thing because you can have doctorates and P H D's and all that kind of thing and, you know, know all the technical stuff, but if they do n't reach out and touch the kids, then that does n't do any good.", "Yeah, these kids are just in a day care center all day and, uh, with no, any type of emotional, you know, getting love, getting care, they're just there. You know. Going through this routine, which is lousy.", "The other, the other group that we had was kind of interesting. The other one we went to the, it was a husband and wife team and we knew them from other associations but, uh, it was kind of interesting because she was kind of the strict one, and I think, you know, she would, she'd put her arm around the kids and talk to them and stuff, you know, but he was actually the more, um, the more, uh, what, demonstrative type. The more loving he would, you know, laugh with the kids and play with the kids and and i, it was kind of interesting to see that, that it was actually the man in the group that, that did that side of it. An,", "Yeah, you do n't see that much.", "Yeah, so they had a really nice balance. We liked that one. In fact, it was called Humpty Dumpty Play School or something, but they also did, they also did some of the teaching things and then they had, um, you know, obedience, obedience was important.", " Yeah, that has to be with a day care center.", " And you know so they, you know, they used, uh, oh, I think they used the, you probably heard where, you know, where you stand in front of the clock and get your power back to control yourself.", "I've never heard of that. That's, that's a new one,", " And it's, it's one, Uh, I ca n't remember what they call it actually but y, you just stand them in front of a clock and, you know, it has a second hand that goes around."]}
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{"turn_id": ["4155_0", "4155_1", "4155_2", "4155_3", "4155_4", "4155_5", "4155_6", "4155_7", "4155_8", "4155_9", "4155_10", "4155_11", "4155_12", "4155_13", "4155_14", "4155_15", "4155_16", "4155_17", "4155_18", "4155_19", "4155_20", "4155_21", "4155_22", "4155_23", "4155_24", "4155_25", "4155_26", "4155_27"], "speaker_role": ["Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2"], "utterance": ["Um, what's our topic?", "Do we pay too much?", "Right. Right. Um", "Well, do we?", "What do you do? I guess that, I mean it all depends really on what kind of bracket you're in.", "My tax bracket is, is pretty high up there. I pay the, I generally pay the maximum tax bracket. And, uh, I think that we're paying too much because I do n't have any children. And I pay a lot of property taxes. I do n't have any, um, I do n't, you know, I do n't use an awful lot of city services. It, it, you know it's like I have to work m, I have to work all the time just to make enough money to pay the taxes. And, um, y, there's so many people who want a, a ( ( dib ) ) of the federal money or the state money or whatever it is and I just, sometimes, many times I end up feeling like I'm paying too much in taxes. How about you? Do you pay too much?", "Uh, well, no, I ca n't really complain. I'm a student, um, and I d, I work as a co op at, uh, Georgia Tech Research Institute. And, uh, I'm going to get back most of what I earned, I mean most of what I pay in taxes and, uh, and, uh,", " Well, when you", " on, one of my parents is still claiming me. Huh?", "when you go out into the, uh, when you go out into the working world it, it changes quickly. Um, you look at your paycheck and you go, oh, my gosh where did it all go Um, what kind of, what kind of, uh, well have you pay a lot of in ta, have you been out working and then gone back to school or are you, did you go directly from high school into, into college?", "I went, well I did work, um, just very ( ( ) ) for some time but I did n't make enough money to really make,", " To worry about it.", " too much of a difference. Right.", "Have you, have you been active in, in politics trying to, concerning this? Have you like worked on political action committees or something like that?", "No, no, I have n't.", "I, uh, I have n't done any of that type of work myself. Um, but every once in a while when I hear up here at, at, uh, in D C area, um, one of the radio stations has been talking about the, the Congress, um, Congress has added too towards the Members Bank there, you know, there's a bank that they all bank with, and I guess it went defunct recently. And one of the Congressmen has, has written in the last three years al, about a thousand bad checks. And we, we the taxpayers float him a loan for all tho, all those bad checks, no interest, no repayment schedule. And, um, it's causing quite a stir up here, because we're so close to D C anyway. It's really kind of curious to watch this thing occur. Um, I, I, I think we pay too much. And I've, I look at my paycheck and I make, well, let's see. They take out in state and federal taxes I think I pay forty two percent. Forty two cents out of every dollar I make goes to the government, and then they charge me sales tax and they charge me gasoline taxes,", "faint > > Uh huh. ( ( ) ) taxes.", "and they charge me all these others, and it's just too expensive. I ca n't believe that I, I'm just thankful that I do n't get all the government that I pay for. You know what I mean? Do you, have you used, um, student loans and things like that that were guaranteed by the government?", "No, no, I have n't. Uh, I, uh, my father pays for my, my schooling, my tuition. So, uh, I'm, I have n't made use of that.", "What are you studying down there? Oh, that sounds like a fun, fun field.", "Everybody says that", "Are you like in the particle, particle research or anything like that or is it more, um, applied physics?", "Um, I have n't, I have n't gotten too terribly much into my major yet. Actually, um, the, the degree I'm getting is physics. There's a different one for applied physics so I guess you could call it more straight stuff", "Well maybe, maybe you can figure out how we can stop this inertia that's, ( ( ) ) come rolling towards, whatever it's rolling toward.", "I doubt about that. Are, are, is America, I mean are we pretty, pretty steep compared to most countries?", "Actually, I do n't think we are.", " No, I do n't think so either.", " Um, like, like Europe, I know the taxes are a lot higher. But they do have socialized medicine and things like that."]}
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{"turn_id": ["4181_0", "4181_1", "4181_2", "4181_3", "4181_4", "4181_5", "4181_6", "4181_7", "4181_8", "4181_9", "4181_10", "4181_11", "4181_12", "4181_13", "4181_14", "4181_15", "4181_16", "4181_17", "4181_18", "4181_19", "4181_20", "4181_21", "4181_22", "4181_23", "4181_24", "4181_25", "4181_26", "4181_27", "4181_28", "4181_29", "4181_30", "4181_31", "4181_32", "4181_33", "4181_34", "4181_35", "4181_36"], "speaker_role": ["Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1"], "utterance": ["I do n't think anybody pays too little.", "No, I would tend to agree very highly. I think that we're all paying a little bit too much taxes and not seeing too much good come out of it.", "Do you get hit up for local taxes there?", "Yeah, we sure do. Here in Indiana we pay, uh, we pay county income tax, state income tax, we pay five percent sales tax, uh, you name it, they tax it.", "Oh, so y, y, you get the whole smorgasbord.", "That's right we,", "Well, I, I actually live in New Hampshire tax free or die.", "Which is probably pretty nice, but I'll bet that means your state sales tax is pretty high.", "No, actually there's no sales tax in New Hampshire either.", "There's no sales tax either?", "No, what there is, is very high property taxes because that's how they fund schools and everything. The only problem is I work in Massachusetts, so they they hit me up for the five percent there. Yep, but, it, well, you know, we, it's only a state tax here, no local. ( ( We've ) ) got a five percent sales tax. But, uh, the problem is that so I'm paying state tax even if I do n't live here. But, at least on things like stock options and things like that, they do n't tax me. So that's not too bad.", "No, I, uh, I really think that, here in Indiana at least we pay a, a whole, uh, just too much tax. I worked in a factory, uh, last summer and, on the average, I was losing twenty percent of every paycheck to taxes and I do n't feel that I really get a whole lot of return from that. I mean, I do n't utilize all, you know, it really, any government welfare services. Of course, I drive on the roads and I, you know, went to the schools and stuff, but I really feel that, that I'm just getting overtaxed.", "Oh, I, I mean, I, I'd consider twenty percent lucky because just on, I mean, you know, when you figure out just on feds, you know, I actually hit the thirty one bracket this year, which was no fun.", "that's not any fun.", "Right, and also, you know, then you figure out seven or eight percent for F I C A which is taxes where ( ( you ) ), most people forget about them, because you've g, you know, you ca n't always get your F I C A back at the end of the year. But, so, you know, and then, you know, like a five percent surtax, I'm paying forty percent tax.", "Yeah, which is just outrageous and a lot of it, and if you look at the way the government is run these days, it just seems like a lot of it's going to waste.", "Yeah, well, I, I mean, I think there's some people, there, y, certainly are some things where you need infrastructure and you need you n, you know, ( ( there are ) ) things government does better, you know, I ( ( think ) ) government does a better space program than you're going to get out of private individuals, but, you know, I think, you know, you look at things like, you know, tax subsidies to tobacco farmers because Jesse Helms wants it that way or,", "That's right, got to keep those farmers happy.", "You know, and, and just tremendous amounts of, you know, so much of it, is now just going to service debt or you know, is going in, into, into programs that, you know, yeah, they are, they are a fat. You know, I think the military is really fat. I think that a lot of the, the H E W services, although they're providing necessary services, have too much fat in them.", "Right. The, there is just way too much bureaucracy and so much of that tax money is going just to keep that bureaucracy running, keep the paper shuffling around", "You know, like we,", "instead of real, you know, good programs.", "Yeah, I mean, we, we spend a fortune for things like V A hospitals and, you know, then you look at how well they're managed, you know, I do n't think we're getting our money's work out, worth out of there. I think it's all going into, into bureaucrats.", "Right, and a lot of it's feeding that. Just, I just, I really, especially in the election year, I mean, I'm really thinking a lot about this, the economy and questions like that and, and just the whole, it seems like everything is really screwy right now as far as the economy, uh, the government goes and our, our whole economy in general and our taxes just are going to keep rising no matter what happens and especially when you've got the Bush administration who has increased government expenditures, uh, beyond what any other President since World War Two has done and yet", "between him and Reagan, yeah.", "Right right, yeah.", " ( ( The great communicator ) ),", " I mean, I just read something that, two thirds or three quarters, I'm not exactly sure of our national debt are, was created during the Reagan Bush era", " Oh, oh, yeah, they think,", " who are suppo, supposedly fiscally conservative.", "Oh, yeah, and then they go ( ( and say ) ), I'm not c, Congress, they're the fault for it. But, you know, the other thing is, it's tricky, though, because like in New Hampshire, they say, oh, all right, let's cut the military budget. Well, yeah, then, you lose half your jobs in New Hampshire you lose, ( ( Grotten ) ) Connecticut goes, so, you know, it's like, you know, it's very tricky to balance ( ( that stuff ) ) off, because then you hurt, you know, if the, if the, if people lose their jobs, then they become a load and they're not contributing taxes. So, you know, it's, it's very hard to say, you know, this is what we should cut.", "Yeah, it's really, that is the, especially that defense, cuts in the defense is really a Catch twenty two double whammy, because like you say, if you cut defense, well, that's great, that's going to lower our national expenditures, but then you're going to have people on welfare and they're not", " Who are n't contributing.", " putting taxes in. So that's, that's really, it's,", "And, uh, in our,", "I'm glad I'm not the one who has to come up with these policies.", "But, what's very funny is in our town meeting they were v, th, this, this guy had, both for our school district meeting and our town meeting had this proposal which, unfortunately violates New Hampshire constitution d, for our local town to do it to, uh, have you, have people line item their taxes. They say I want to pay for this and this and this and this and this. Course, the only problem with that is then nobody paying for the necessary services they do n't use."]}
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{"turn_id": ["4318_0", "4318_1", "4318_2", "4318_3", "4318_4", "4318_5", "4318_6", "4318_7", "4318_8", "4318_9", "4318_10", "4318_11", "4318_12", "4318_13", "4318_14", "4318_15", "4318_16", "4318_17", "4318_18", "4318_19", "4318_20", "4318_21", "4318_22"], "speaker_role": ["Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1"], "utterance": ["( ( Before ) ) the one will take, uh, okay, let's see, I guess, uh, I can start. I'm actually, we're actually trying to find one now because", "Are you really?", "our family's growing. Yeah. Uh, so I'm looking at, uh, something larger than what we have. We've got, like, an eighty four Charger that's about gone and a, uh, an eighty nine Horizon. So, I'm looking for something, uh, littler", " Uh huh, which are both kind of small.", "bigger, yeah. Uh, so we were thinking mini van for a while and, uh, we're looking at, uh, some just four door, five passenger sedans", "Are you looking for an American car or, you open to buying foreign cars?", "Uh, I do n't really have a preference either way I guess. You know, it's, you know, it, I guess the American cars had a bad reputation but I have n't had any real substantial problems with the ones I've had.", "Personally, I have a Japanese car right now, and I really like it a lot. Uh, I think the Japanese really build good cars and I know that kind of rubs against the grain right now in the whole, uh, you know, buy American, keep American auto workers working right now, but I feel that the Japanese have really produced a much higher quality product than our, uh, car manufacturers have for a while. If I were to buy another car, I would be, uh, I would be partial to buying another Japanese car, but I would also look at American cars, but when I bought the car that I bought now, I did that also and I just felt that the Japanese car was a much better product.", "Yeah, I mean, e,", "So, if I were,", "even if it's just details, it seems like, uh they, you know, I j, there's a door seal that s, does n't quite seal and you have to take it back every once in a while. It's clearly just a, a design problem there.", "Right, it is. Uh, I'm kind of, right now, the next car I buy is going to be sort of a sports car. I would really like to have a sports car. Uh I do n't really, I do n't have a family, so I do n't need a, a mini van or such to, uh, haul people around in. So I'm looking for more a, a two passenger car that, uh,", "Oh, like a Miata or something like that?", "Well, I like the Miata, but I do n't like it enough to buy it. I would buy something, actually the, the car that I really like right now is an Eagle Talon, which is an American car. But, uh, something along that lines. Uh, because I have a, an economy car right now, which is okay, but uh, I think I, I'd like to move on to something a little better.", "( ( That's ) ) interesting. Yeah, I guess probably the factors we'd use to compare are a little different because I look for, you know, size and safety, and then mileage. Probably,", "That's, when I bought the car that I bought, I was looking for mileage, and I was looking for, uh, dependability and something that was going to last a long time. I was g, that I would get a, for the money that I was going to spend, that I would get a return that was, that was worth that money.", "Yeah I c, I think in terms of computer terminology, I look at, you know, price performance and things like that. And then a little bit at life expectancy, I guess, but it, you know depends on what you, what you pay initially. But, you know I've got a hundred and twenty five thousand miles on the Charger. Actually it was my wife's car that she brought into the marriage and she got just a commute between Cincinnati and Dayton. It's, you know, we, we had to replace the friction plate and the transmission at thirty thousand miles, but uh, the other ninety four thousand have been just fine with it, so,", "Uh, I've had, uh, I've had one or two American cars I think, and, and they were okay. I had a Pontiac once and, and I never had a problem with it, but, uh, my mother had a Dodge at one point and I, I had driven it a few times and I really did not feel that it, that I would buy a Dodge j, just from, well, actually, I had a, uh, a Dodge Omni at one point and that was, I think, what really prejudiced me against American cars was because I did not feel that it was a very quality, uh, car. So, I guess you'd have to say, if I was looking, I would definitely be looking for a foreign car.", "That's interesting. But, yeah, it, it's hard to beat some of the, uh, like, I guess, in particular, we're looking at a, like a ninety one Corsica, uh, buy back at a, they say G M sponsored auction, but I think they're obliged to have these things because Hertz and Avis and those folks have it in their contract that they can sell it back to G M after, you know, it's, after they've used it for six months and put you know, twelve or fifteen thousand miles, on it and you can get those for like eight thousand bucks if you,", "Which is a good deal.", "Yeah, because I guess, uh, I mean, well, ninety twos, granted, but the new ones, you know fourteen to sixteen is what they go for on the lot, so all the depreciation has been taken off and, s, the dealer comes out okay you know, ( ( I do n't know ) ) what kind of, I do n't know what G M corporate, kind of hit the, I do n't know what kind of hit they take on it, but sounds like everybody's had their chance to make their money off it and", "Yeah, I'm sure they did.", "So, but, uh, I do n't know, we keep looking at that mini van. It's just, you know, we can get a, like a Caravan for, ( ( at ) ) twelve, five"]}
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{"turn_id": ["4366_0", "4366_1", "4366_2", "4366_3", "4366_4", "4366_5", "4366_6", "4366_7", "4366_8"], "speaker_role": ["Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1"], "utterance": ["Well, Julie, uh, are you in a situation where you'd soon need to deal with, uh, special care for elderly?", "Well, I do n't know. My grandfather is ninety two years old. And he is still living by himself. My grandmother died a couple of years ago But he does n't want to, to move away. He lives in a little farmhouse on a farm. And he recently had to have an operation but he just really does n't want to go to a nursing home.", "Is he able to, uh, still do everything himself pretty well?", "Well, he was until this operation. He has arthritis. And now I do n't really think he's doing that well. And my, a lot of my aunts and uncles live near him. And I have one aunt that really looks after him a lot. But, uh, my great grandfather was put in a nursing home when he was a hundred and three. And, uh, died six weeks after they put him in the home.", "Yeah. And I'm sure that kind of thing would influence your f, grandfather's feelings. Because, uh, I th, you know, I think for a lot of people it really is the decision of, do they still have some of their life left. And and, for, for, I'm sure, a lot of people going into a nursing home it's like saying my life is over and I'm just here for the rest of the stay And so I, you know, I guess most of the time when I think about somebody going into a nursing home, it's more a case of where they are not able to look after their day to day needs. Yeah they have can look after a lot of things but there's some of the day to day needs that they just are not able to deal with physically anymore. Uh, I know my, none of my grandparents were in a nursing home. They generally were able to have someone care for them at home and they died background > >. But they were all, goodness, younger than your grandparents Like they were in their eighties. That type of thing Uh, but I did, uh, you know, I guess, uh, when I think nursing home I do think of people that are not able to do, take care of themselves physically. Uh", " But I just do n't think that nursing homes really do a very good job.", "And that's, that's difficult part. Because I think what they often get used as is, uh, almost like a very high level or long term care for, uh, similar to a hospital. Uh, I know, like here in Saskatchewan, we have our hospital care ( ( ) ) the care actually for the older people graded in level, in four levels. And a level four type of care would be someone that really requires long term hospital care. Generally are not able to look after this, themselves to very, to a very great extent, physically Often times they even have mental difficulty with senility or Alzheimer's Disease or those or, or physical and mental handicaps. Uh, you know, where they really require twenty four hour supervision of some kind Even though it may be minimal And, uh, but I think that it can be helpful in that, uh, it gets people the level of physical care they need. Uh,", "But I do n't, I mean at least, I mean I think some nursing homes do that. But I think a lot of nursing homes really, uh, are guilty of neglect.", "Yeah. I th, and I think it happens more in areas where it's, uh, I guess, uh, a broad social medical system where, uh, you know, there's government medical care and that kind of thing. If it's the lot where it's funded by the individuals and, and I guess that's sort of my lack of understanding. I think that a majority of the places in the U S, uh, you know, there is some government aid available, but the majority ( ( of it ) ) is to the availability of the individual to pay"]}
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{"turn_id": ["4380_0", "4380_1", "4380_2", "4380_3", "4380_4", "4380_5", "4380_6", "4380_7", "4380_8", "4380_9", "4380_10", "4380_11", "4380_12", "4380_13", "4380_14", "4380_15", "4380_16", "4380_17", "4380_18", "4380_19", "4380_20", "4380_21", "4380_22"], "speaker_role": ["Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1"], "utterance": ["Recently graduated from high school. Meaning like, uh, you know, three or four years ago. I'm a senior in, in, uh, college now. And, uh, I ca n't really talk too much about the problems with, uh, public education in detail because the school system I went to was, uh, really superb even though it was a public school", "Yeah. I feel that my, uh, I'm a junior in college now. And I go to Tech, Georgia Tech?", " I got a friend who goes there, by the way I want to as, talk to you about that afterward, okay.", " Okay Uh, I've, the high school I went to was, uh, was a good one also. And I, well, I guess you could say one of the problems with the public education system is the disparity between different schools. Because the one I went to was, you know, I'm sure a, a lot nicer than, you know, a lot of the inner city schools and the things around Atlanta.", "Yeah. ( ( It was a, a, it's a ) ) more or less a suburban school system? Yes. That, that was true for mine too. Uh, although I I'm sure to some extent, that money is part of the problem in the disparity, but I do n't think, I honestly do n't think that's the biggest part of it. You know, I think that, uh, I mean I know that in my town, you know, most of the, most of the parents, they're valued education. And, uh", " Yeah, that's true.", "you know, and so the students were, you know, to some extent, motivated to learn. I mean", "Yeah. And I'm also I mean, in the, in those places where, uh, like the economy is really bad, they might, you know, be more tempted to, to quit school and get jobs and that kind of thing because they need the, you know, money to put food on the table and stuff like that. More than they would you know, in areas where they ( ( yeah ) ),", "Yeah, that's true. But but, uh, I think, I mean even more than that, even, I mean if you drop out in high school you should still be able to read you know?", "Yeah. That's true.", " Which it ( ( ) ), I mean it sounds like, uh, now I think maybe it's started changing in the past few years because, uh, they have of these, uh, sort of mandatorytory tests if you have to take before you get a diploma. But, uh, but, uh, certainly before that, there were people that, you know, would graduate from high school and could barely read. Uh, and that's just sort of inexcusable and you ca n't really, I, I, I mean I just ca n't even picture how that could happen. You know, except maybe to someone whose, you know, really badly learning, uh, disabled or something. But these people obviously were n't.", "That's hard for me to say since I did n't,", "likes a burp > >.", "I did n't really grow, well when I went to elementary school it, it was n't in a great area but I still, I mean, I learned to read, started learning to read when I was in kindergarten, you know. So I guess I ca n't really I ca n't say what it would be like to, uh, grow up in a really oppressed region You know, I guess the whole, the whole environment and attitude towards school and learning is different for the ( ( ) ) people.", " Yeah. And I think that's almost a bigger factor, than anything else probably. I mean, I do n't, I think you know, people just,", " So, I guess the problem is the, the thing to do is to try to, uh, to get some kind of motivation to learn and,", "Yeah. And, again, I do n't, I mean ( ( they got to ) ) know the, you know, how qualified, I mean, ( ( ) ) I think it'd be interesting to, you know, to spend a couple of days just looking around an inner city school. Uh, you know, sort, sort of maybe from elementary through, uh, high school. You know, just sort of to get a feel for what it's like. I think that'd be an interesting experience. But, uh, I have n't done that", "No, I, I ca n't say that I have either.", "But I do, I do think that, uh, I mean, public education in general I think can work. And I think it's a good thing.", "Yeah. I've, I've heard some, I mean I've heard sta, sta, statistics and things that, that compare a public education to a private education. I mean within like, within the same, uh, income groups. If you compare the, like the people that could have, that could have sent their kids to private schools and the people that, you know, the people that, uh, did send their kids to private schools. I think they compare fair, you know, fairly well.", "Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I do n't, I honestly do n't really think I could have, you know, done much better than I did in the school system I was in.", "I, I, I, my schools, I mean, there, I have a lot of once, once it seemed I got into high school, they had a lot of, uh, ( ( ) ) accelerated programs and all kinds of stuff like that. That, I mean, that makes a big difference cause I wondered when they're taking classes with, uh, with people that are really, are interested in the, the subject and stuff like that.", " Yeah. I mean, and and in the, once you ( ( book ) ) junior high, uh, start junior high, starting in eighth grade all the way through high school, there were four levels. Well, no, I guess it wa, in junior high, it was still three. Then in high school it changed into four levels of, uh, of instruction in the major subjects."]}
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{"turn_id": ["4626_0", "4626_1", "4626_2", "4626_3", "4626_4", "4626_5", "4626_6", "4626_7", "4626_8", "4626_9", "4626_10", "4626_11", "4626_12", "4626_13"], "speaker_role": ["Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2"], "utterance": ["How are you? You want to go ahead and start talking about whether you budget", " ( ( Yes ) ). Yeah. Well i, I, I, I feel like, uh, I am from Mars. I mean I'm fifty years old and, uh, I've been divorced for, um, eighteen years. But I've two kids and all. But I, uh, I, I've never had a budget and I do n't, uh, do any planning and I do n't know, ( ( ) ) I do n't, uh, uh, I do n't have a long term financial plan. I do n't try to control my expenses. But I'm, I'm glad you're a stranger.", "That sounds kind of like me.", "But, really, I'm, I happy, I, I, well I'm curious how other people live. Uh, so maybe we should start with you What do you do?", "About the same thing.", "Oh. Maybe they're going to arrest us both.", "I'm even in worse shape because I have eight children and, uh, we live from hand to mouth We hope that there's enough money at the end of the month to pay for the bills and if there's not, then we ( ( ) ) due for the next month. A couple of times we've tried some things and they worked but I'm not disciplined enough to keep doing it. The best program we ever had is at the beginning of the month we took and, uh, took my check and divided it out into envelopes and then paid for the expenses out of that envelope and when the envelope was empty then you did n't have any more money to spend in that area. And that worked out real well cause we did n't have to keep writing down what we'd spent. It was just that when that was empty, you knew you were out of money. And we did that pretty successfully for about three months and then we started borrowing from one envelope to put it in the other envelope and in about two months we were back to doing the same thing we always do.", "Huh. The, uh, I had a part time job around, oh gosh, fifteen years ago, seventy six, and, uh, uh, this was a sort of a career shift at the time and so I was willing to take a half time job to do that. And I actually did, my bank account would, uh, I'd, I, I kept bouncing checks, just at the end of the month but I, I had miscalculated. I, well I did n't keep a balance It's one of the problems this very faintly > >. I never had to in the past. I always kept plenty of money in my checking account, but when you're only earning half the salary. Even though I was n't spending much money, I sometimes I sometimes would just, things would get to tight. Uh, and sometimes what I would do is keep a piece of paper in my wallet and every time I, uh, I spent money, I mean cash mostly, I would, uh, write it down so I could see at the end of a month how much I spent on food so I could do better planning. But I would forget to write the things down and it, that I, I do n't know if I ever went as far as three months or not i, i, in keeping that kind of data. I certainly have n't done that in sixteen years or whatever.", "I even find now like with the automatic tellers, I'll go take money out of that and then I forget to take that out of my checking account. So I, I, I leave a little bit of a slush fund in my checking account and I figure that, so the balance showing in the checking account is always somewhat different that what's really there. And I figure that gives me room for the mistakes I make.", "Uh huh. The, uh, I, i, I have to say that, let's see, at this point on, I do n't run out of money. Uh, and it, uh, a, and I do n't, I mean someday, if I were to get remarried I might want to buy a house which requires lots of money which I do n't have and I, I, I think my strategy if, if I may, i, i, is to, is to not spend money. I mean I do n't have expensive tastes. I do n't go out. I mean I buy a car, well the last car I got rid of I'd had, it was nineteen years old. Pe, people were embarrassed for me. I mean it was, it was a good car and,", " ( ( But it was ) ) still running.", "Oh, it was great. My, my mechanics loved it because it was an old, it was a sixty five Buick and it just would n't stop. Uh, and it, I, I just did n't feel the need for a new car. It is n't like I could n't afford one. Uh, and now, I mean I, I do n't, uh, I tend to eat expensive food. I mean I do n't mind buying a good steak but for me, I only do that every week or, without even, I mean, maybe once a month. I mean you buy a, a tenderloin steak, it costs outrageous, like twelve dollars a pound. You buy a, a, less than half a pound so it's six or seven dollars. To me, I realize if you have eight kids you're not going to run out and do that.", "Not very often", "But, but I'm just, I'm just saying as a single person, that's, that's a drop in the bucket. And so if you're extravagant on how you buy food, it does n't add up. If you're buying, I mean if you're not going to super expensive restaurants, which I do n't care to go to. So, so that's, I think, one of the reasons I do n't need to budget is that I do n't have, I do n't, I do n't have to hold myself back from buying that expensive thing because I ca n't afford it, because I'm not interested in that expensive thing."]}
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And I really do n't agree with that I think that the trial by jury is better, uh, you know, than e, having a unanimous decision rather than to have one person be responsible. I do n't think that they could be objective in every case, every time. Yo, you know what I mean?", "Right. There's, there, th, this topic is kind of mute. Uh there, there's no way. We, we could n't survive in a sy, in a juror syst, in a trial system without a jury. Uh, one man can never be, one man, one woman can never be objectionable in every case. Uh, every person has their opinions and that's why jury selection is often very difficult. Uh.", " Well, I, I feel the other thing too, uh, they were saying, uh, you know, what new ways could y, could it, you, you know, change the system. I, I really think that, uh, we spend a lot of time, uh, going through appeal after appeal after appeal after appeal,", "like something is being sliced > >.", "I mean, i, if you go to a trial by jury and especially if a person has confessed. If they have been caught, you know, point blank in the crime. There's, uh, no question it's beyond a reasonable doubt. You know, all these things. I mean, you know, we've gone through this over and over again.", "Right. They should n't allow an appeal.", " And it can go on for ten, twenty, I, I think this is a little ridiculous. I think the only people who benefit from that are the lawyers.", "Oh, that's right. I work for a law firm ( ( ) ).", " I, I'm serious. And I think that the lawyers have caused a lot of the problems tha, that exist in the s, in the criminal system today. With plea bargaining. You know, if someone is ( ( ill ) ),", " Well plea bar, plea bargaining is a different story. Plea bargaining is something completely different. That, that actually prevents trials. Or at least speeds them up.", " Well, I know. That's ( ( ) ) what I'm saying. But I think a lot of, all of the whole criminal system is messed up in, in that regard. I mean, you know, people who commit, uh, crimes that they, I do n't know how it works exactly but you know, they get lesser sentences and I understand that the jails are full of people, you know, uh and that they have to do something. But, I think that the reason they are full is because they know that they can get away with it. Yo, you know what I'm saying? That w, we do n't have, uh, well a lot of states do n't have capital punishment. I, I think they should. I, and I think if a person is guilty of taking someone's life and like you say, it's, it's, there's no doubt whatsoever. Like drunk drivers that kill people and, uh, you know, all they, they're caught dead to rights. I, I just think that that's, they've, they've taken a life and if, they should pay for it with their life.", "Right. When you're saying as far as the appeal, uh, procedure was concerned. We just have the case, I'm, I'm sure you've probably heard of Marion Berry. Uh, his f, last appeal was, was denied two days before his sentence was up So, I mean, his appeal was denied and two days later he got out of jail For cocaine possession. But, uh, that was absurd There is never, there was no reason", " I know that, that ( ( ) ).", "the appeal process should have dragged on that long for a six month sentence.", "Uh huh. And, I do n't know. Uh, what would you do to change it? To make it better?", "Well, uh, the, the only I can, I wa, you know, the, appeal procedure is the only thing I can possibly think of. Uh, a, like I said, as far as removing of the jury and having the judge sentence, that's absurd. There's no way that could work.", " Oh, yeah. I, I, I do n't agree with that at all. Imagine the guilt that person would have. I mean ( ( ) ) burned out. There's there's no possible way that you could, uh, you know, feel good about yourself. If you had to do something like that, day after day.", "No one would want the job", "No. Not really.", "Uh, and, you know, like I said, the, you know, everyone has their opinions about every case.", "Well, w, do you think people should have a trial is they're caught dead to rights like,", "Oh yeah. I, I feel that everyone is, everyone is, uh, entitled to a trial by jury. That, that, that right s,", " I mean, supposing I come up to you and I just point blank kill you.", "Well, I mean, were there witnesses?", " In other words you're saying that, w, you have to find out whether it's premeditated or what the circumstances were.", " Right. That you ca n't, you ca n't remove the jury regardless of the case. I mean you could have fifty people in audience watching a murder take place and you, you'd still, there's still mitigating circumstances"]}
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Uh, the, uh, the guy, uh, apparently had a, a, mental disfunction in which he needed to go out and just slay people. Uh, just, uh, kill them with, with as much blood and, and guts as possible.", "Oh, how awful", "It was true, it was truly awful. It was not one that I picked, but, uh, uh, it, it did show some, some, uh, some interesting things about the F B I because they were the, the, uh, the characters trying, trying to get him were F B I people and, uh, uh, of the, of the few good things that were in it, it did show, uh, a lot about the F B I. About the training, and, and how they go through training and how they try to, to develop, uh, uh, a mental picture of who they're looking for before they go out and do it and all the different ways they go about doing that. And it was, uh, uh, it was pretty telling about the, the, the F B I and their procedures.", "I wonder how truthful all of that was or whether there was fiction.", "Yeah, I, I imagine a lot of it had to be fictional just to keep the F B I, uh, going, I guess.", "Yeah, well, they keep it rather secretive, yes Well the most recent movie I saw, uh, I'm afraid was, uh, well two, two of them actually. Uh, the RAIN MAN was one.", "Oh that was great one.", "Was n't that fabulous, and,", "Oh, I loved it.", "and DRIVING MISS DAISY.", "You know, I have n't seen that one yet, and I need to go see it.", "Oh, you need to see that. That is the most heart rendering story of relationships between two people. Two diametrically opposed people from the stand point that one was Jewish and one was black and this all took place in the South. And, uh, normally never the twain shall meet.", "You bet, especially in the South.", "Yes, right, and, um, uh, it, it really was a fantastic movie. The acting was phenomenal.", "Well as, it, as I recall it got some Academy Awards, did n't it.", "Oh yes, Jessica Tandy won best actress and, uh,", "Oh yeah, that's right. It, it might have one best picture, too.", "Yes it did, yes it did. Just as RAIN MAN, uh, with Dustin Hoffman, uh, that, that was tremendous and Tom Cruise.", "yeah, I, I think it was more a lesson for Tom Cruise than anything else in terms of, uh, of how to act from Dustin Hoffman, but, uh.", "Yes, uh, oh, that was, that was, uh, what the, much of the hype was that Tom Cruise learned so much from Dustin Hoffman.", "Yeah, it must have been great just being with him on, on a daily basis and seeing how he prepares for his, for his lines and all that stuff.", "Yeah and a good bit of that was filmed right in Cincinnati. Which is just forty five miles from, from where I am, where I actually live in a suburb of Dayton.", "Is, is the Kmart there?", "Oh, we do have Kmart here, you better believe it. Is n't there a Kmart everywhere?", "That was, that was so funny, he had to, or was it Kmart. He had to buy his underwear at Kmart.", "Right, right yeah.", "That was hilarious. The, the, I guess the, the first, the first, uh, scene in that movie that really got my attention, uh, concerning the, the disease and all that was when he, uh, dropped the, the, uh, the toothpicks, and he was able to count the number of toothpicks just by a mental image.", "Well, you know there are people, uh, referred to as savants also, uh, who can do most phenomenal things and everyone feels they are totally retarded.", "Yeah, wel, because that's the way they, they might seem outwardly, but, boy there's a lots going on in there Yeah, yeah and I, the, the, I think the, the best thing about RAINMAN was the, uh, the way that they put together the, the real awfulness of the, of the, of the disease, only, an, and then they balanced it with the wonderfulness of it, you know, and, and, and you need to, to work with it, uh, you know, certainly on, on a daily basis but then ag, then again work with it toward a good end.", "Yes and the,", "Not, not toward winning in Las Vegas, for example.", "Right, well the warmth that developed between them and again it, I think was a picture of relationships. Again the relationship, uh, between the two, uh, that, uh, never would have occurred, uh, by accident.", "Right, right. I was, uh, I was so impressed with that movie I saw it three times. I can, I can se, tell you, oh, so much about that movie, just because it, it really rang, uh, rang a lot of my, uh, my personal background. I, I have a, a brother myself that's, that's older and, uh, he's not, you know, nothing, nothing, of course, serious is wrong with him but, uh, but we have gone through these, these lapses of, of a relationship, somewhat, sometimes, and then, you know, uh, for, for, for no real, you know, direct reason, I guess, uh, we, we get into, uh, uh, a really good relationship for a while and then, you know, back and forth so I, I was really able to, to relate to the, the relationship aspect of the movie between the brothers. That was neat.", "Uh huh. Well that's tremendous, that, it's good because it does make you think, about your own family.", "Yeah, a lot.", "And see it did bring out a lot of thoughts between you and your brother.", "Uh huh. No question, he, the, he was, he's one of these guys though that does n't really like to go see movies like that. He likes the bang them up and shoot them up things. And, and, uh, it, it was like pulling teeth to go get him to, to see it but, uh, oh boy. He was, uh, uh, he, he gave the, the best response that I've heard him give of this type of movie for RAIN MAN. I mean he certainly did n't, he only saw it one time, and he did n't go back for more, but, uh, he, he said he enjoyed it and, and,", "Well he at least saw it one time", "Yeah, yeah, and, and he really, I do n't know, he, he's kind of a Dustin Hoffman fan anyway. But he wa, but before he saw the movie he was like disappointed that Dustin Hoffman would do this I'm like, oh, come on.", "Just think of what a phenomenal actor Dustin Hoffman is. He will do that, to research it and to be able to mimic a person, uh, uh, with the kinds of problems that he had.", "And to make it believable. I mean I was, I was believing it, I do n't know about any body else but I was, it was great.", "Well, I'm sure everybody that saw it was believing it right along with them.", "He did great.", "Well it's just, uh, been delightful talking with you.", "Yeah, yeah, you take care up there and, uh, let's hear it for the summertime.", "Absolutely, I'm ready for it, but they're predicting some more snow for our direction.", "No, oh no. Oh well, take care.", " Take care now. Bye, bye."]}
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Are you in Dallas also?", "No, I'm in San Antonio.", "Oh, really, okay.", "I get my news from a combination of sources. I take the paper every day and I read it on the way in to work on the, in a carpool. Uh huh. And, uh, and I watch the, uh, actually I watch the morning news before I leave for work. And then, you know, usually over lunch, there'll be a big topic of conversation on something from the news.", "I normally find that uh, I, I'm probably the most, um, news hungry of my friends, so I do n't, we do n't normally talk about the news at lunch. I, I find that I have to only subscribe to the paper on the weekend, simply because I used to get it during the week but, um, I would always end up arriving at work late, because I would always end up skimming the headlines, spending too much time, reading it in the morning. So I have to cut myself down to the weekend, plus after work. Um, the MACNEIL LEHRER news hour is on public television and I enjoy that quite a bit.", "Yeah. Um, one of the women that I work with, her husband is Iranian. So here lately with all the Middle Eastern news we've had some very interesting conversations over lunch.", "I will admit I work with, uh, someone who's Iranian, and he definitely has a very different slant on the news. He's very, very skeptical of the news media, and I will admit I'm reasonably skeptical also. But he's, I do n't know, uh, he's mu, much, much more so. It's sort of interesting though, because he does bring a, a much, um, different perspective with all the Gulf goings on, um. He was always speaking in terms of, you know, American imperialism reasserting itself. Um, I suppose it's a different attitude that we normally do n't hear in the country.", "Uh huh Well I, I, uh, I like the print news much better than the television news because television news tends to sensationalize.", "True, um, the,", "I understand that the MacNeil Lehrer probably does n't.", "They, um, tend to spend quite a bit of time on one story. They will have maybe two or three main stories and just spend a very large amount of time. Sort of like the, uh, what is that, A B C's NIGHTLINE. Well, I guess they only normally stick with just the one, um, story. But they, they can do a much better job since they do n't have to chop it into little two minute stories.", "They do n't report on every murder and shooting that happened in, in every little town.", "No, no. It's very much national interest news. A lot of times they end up, um, with these panels of experts and they go back and forth, where everyone's giving some opinions and sometimes that, I do n't know the value of that, because I saw plenty of jokes and, and, um, oh, editorial cartoons about all the retired generals, making a living during the, the Gulf War.", "I've been getting a kick out of those lately. Although, um I, I'm only twenty five, so I've never actually been through a period of war and I do n't know anyone in the military and I do n't have a lot of background knowledge in, uh, military strategy and, and weaponry, and, and all that kind of stuff. And I thought the generals were very interesting. Now when they started to speculate, I, I saw that for what is was, and thought all of these guys do n't know what's going on. But I thought the, the, they were interesting, and, and they shed some light on what was going on for me.", "I will admit it's interesting. I, I, I'm twenty six. So I do n't have any more experience in that than you. Um, it, it, it was very interesting that it seemed like some of the commentators had their axe to grind, you know, there were some that were screaming for air power, there were some that were saying the air power was n't going to do it. And they seemed to mold the events to their view of the world, which I suppose just about everyone does, but these guys had a, a, uh, national soap box to stand on and, and express this view.", "You know, one of the best television news shows that I saw during the war was a show on a Saturday morning on A B C, and it was for children and it was hosted by Peter Jennings, and it was so interesting because they were relating the war to these children in their studio, and they also had children calling in live from all over the country and asking questions. And they, they had all their correspondents in the different areas, in Saudi Arabia, and Israel, and, and all. They had them all, uh, on, I do n't know what you'd call it other than on line. They had them all on hold and if a child asked a question that the person in Jerusalem could best answer, they would cut to that person, and that person would answer the question. It was just very informative and interesting, and, uh, I was real impressed at how A B C handled, uh, translating, the war for children.", "Yeah, I did n't see anything like that, although I did, uh, I guess one thing that I found sort of interesting, this is getting a little off the topic, but there was a, a, a big push with the local T V stations to have little hot lines with counselors to, to help parents learn how to talk about their war with their children. I thought that was a really unusual thing.", "And our local H E B stores here, I do n't know if it's H E B statewide or whatever, but they have videos that, uh, I do n't know if they still have them, but they were free rental, videos, that had something to do with the war. Uh, it was,", "It, with the children's aspect?", "Right. It was something for children, that they, they had several advertisements on television pushing parents going and, uh, getting the video and watching it with their children and discussing it and that kind of thing.", "I suppose that is a valuable service. Again not having, uh, lived through another war, I do n't know if that's a common thing that people thought of, or if that was a new concern with people.", "back during the Viet Nam conflict that no one will, will have the guts enough to call a real war uh, the, that type of technology just was n't at people's disposal.", "That's true. That's true.", "So I do n't think there's ever been a war that's been so thoroughly covered by the news.", "And spot in the tape > > probably more importantly, one that lasted short enough that, that people's interest did n't flag too badly.", "Yeah. I tell you what, the first three days, I was glued to the television.", "I will admit the same thing. And I, would come home and flip on MacNeil Lehrer and they would run these extended two, three hour versions of the program and I, I was just, I was horrified and fascinated by what I was seeing.", "I tell you what. The uh, the war start, spot in tape > > let's see, was it a Wednesday or Thursday? Must have been Thursday, uh, and Friday night I was, I stayed up until two o'clock in the morning, sitting, right dead center in front of my television just watching practically with my mouth hanging open. Because I was watching C N N, and they would, they would switch back to one of their Israel bureaus, and the people would be standing there in gas masks, and you'd be hearing the sirens, and it was just, I was amazed.", "Uh huh. I, I did n't have that experience. I, I do n't have cable so I, I'm pretty much limited to P B S, which I thought, I thought they did a very good job. Um, I've got one question for you. I you say you take the newspaper. Um, I, I found the newspaper situation in Dallas very interesting. We've got the one fairly, well, relatively weaker paper, the TIMES HERALD, and then the MORNING NEWS, which has a very strong subscription. Does San Antonio ha, you said San Antonio, right? Do you have just one paper, or do you have several?", "No. There are two, and they're pretty close. Uh, the one that I picked is more similar in format to the newspaper, I grew up near Houston and there are two major newspapers there that run pretty much neck and neck, and the one I picked here had the same format as the one that my parents took as I was growing up. I mean, the same type of typeface on the headline and that kind of stuff. It's piddly stuff to pick a newspaper over, and I enjoy, the comics are better in this newspaper. This newspaper has the far side and the comics that I enjoy and the other one has some weird ones that I've never heard of. So,", "I, I actually take both newspapers on the weekends. I figure I'm only taking on the weekend, and I can afford that. I, I find the news reporting in the MORNING NEWS to be better, but I sort of have a liberal political slant, and the MORNING NEWS just has an incredibly conservative editorial, um, outlook. I get the TIMES HERALD just to balance that out a little bit.", "My fiancee takes probably six Sunday papers. He takes both San Antonio papers, an Austin paper, both Houston papers, I guess he takes seven, the San Marcos paper and the New Braunsfel paper, but he's a football coach at Southwest Texas State University, so he's getting all the sports sections."]}
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My belief all my life, I guess, has been that, that if you take someone else's life, then you automatically ( ( are ) ) giving up, uh, yours in place of it But I do n't, seems to be a lot of controversy about that", "Uh, uh, I tend to agree with you, uh, you know, probably pretty similar views on it, but that's, that's one of the things I do n't, do n't understand is, is so much of the controversy because, uh, you know, I, I do also, myself, believe in capital punishment, uh, uh, you know, it, it really irks me to see so much effort put into preventing someone being put to death by the State when they so callously and usually so, you know, without even thinking or without any concern, uh, you know, end somebody else's life, and in a lot of cases several people's lives.", "That's true I guess, well, there's, there's probably two or three different types of, of views as far as the controversy goes. I can see where if a life was taken by accident or, uh, I do n't know what you'd call it, not premeditated or, I guess primarily by accident, uh, there may be cases where the death penalty is not called for, but I lean towards, if it's premeditated or if it's, uh, kind of a habitual or, or a habit that, uh, a tendency that people, uh, may get into, then I guess I do n't really have a problem with it", "Yeah, that's, that's kind of the way I feel. If, if you've got a guy who's, who's been to trial and has been in and out of jail, you know, basically a, a three time loser for the twelfth time, you know, and he goes out and kills somebody, he's not going to be reformed, he's not going to get any better, you know, it's, it's not going to, it's just not going to get any better. And, and the only thing, you know, a lot of people have the opinion that, you know, do n't, do n't have capital punishment, but give them life in jail and, you know, I could go along with that, if, if I could be assured that it would be their natural life in jail and not parole after ten, or twelve years.", "Yeah, I think that's what aggravates a lot of people, is somebody does get a life sentence in place of the death penalty, and they wind up back on the streets after five years or six years or like the kid on the news tonight out in Mesquite who was out in six months.", " Uh huh. Yeah, it's, it's just our criminal system is just so, I guess, overloaded, but the, you know, the, the problem is not so much with the prison system, you know, I mean, because the, the cops are out there doing their job enforcing the laws, and the prison system are just, you know, they're trying to cope with them, but you know, the thing about capital punishment i, I, you know, a lot of people do n't think it would be a deterrent, uh, to, to future crime, and the way it is now, it's not. Because, you know, you, if like the State of Texas, for example, may, uh, you know, may execute somebody twice a year. You know, that's, that's no kind of deterrent because we, we've got literally hundreds of people on death row, and, and many of them who have been there for literally for ten or fifteen years on death row, and that's, that's certainly no kind of deterrent, and I would tend to agree with anybody who says right now that it, it's not a terrent, a deterrent, because it's not.", "No, it's not. You think of your chances of getting the death penalty after cre, uh, committing a crime are really pretty slim right now. And you can, probably spend, uh, a lot of time, uh, or maybe eventually, uh, just waiting it out, and that's where a lot of aggravation comes, I think, is, is, uh, these guys spend so much time in the appeal process or just in the waiting process, they may spend years, and, you know, the last I heard it was costing ten, twenty, thirty thousand dollars a year, uh, to keep these guys waiting.", "Yeah, it, it's amazing. There's, uh, there's a girl I work with, our secretary, as a matter of fact, her, her father was murdered, her father and three other guys up here in Sherman. And the, uh, the guy, that they tried and convicted and sentenced him to death, you know, he's been on death row for like eight years. And, you know, this, this was her father, uh, you know, that, that got killed, you know, just cold blooded murder, him and three other people, and, but still, for some reason, you know, this, this guy's sentence has not been carried out, you know, he's sitting on death row for eight years after having killed four people, and the State still ca n't bring itself to, to ex, execute,", "To, yeah, to carry it out. It sort of takes the justice out of the justice system.", "It does, it really does, you know. She, and they have to go back, uh, occasionally, you know, she has to write letters to the parole board and, you know, lawyers, and just, just ever so often she mentions, well, she's got to do something else, you know, write another letter, or do something. It's just,", "It should be over and done with.", "Yeah, yeah, you know, she should be getting on with her life, you know, getting, getting that part behind her, but yet, it's, it's kind of tied to her the way it is now.", "Yeah, it is. And she winds up being a, a victim, day after day after day.", "Yeah, right. A victim, not only of, indirectly of the crime, but also indirectly by that, indirect involvement. It's just, it's,", "She's an emotional victim", "Yeah. Yeah, it, it's terrible, you know and,", "And, you know, the, like you say, the cops ( ( that ) ) are out doing the work day by day have got to have a lot of frustration when they see all their work, basically go out the window.", "oh, man, I, I could n't be a cop for that, for that very reason, you know, because they do. The, the criminal gets right back out and, you know, the cop's just got to go back and, and do his thing all over again, because so many of the crimes are, are done by repeat offenders.", "Yes, they are. Well, that's about five minutes, so unless you've got something else, well, It's a pleasure talking with you.", "All right, Ron, we'll see you later.", "Okeydoke, good bye."]}
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Tell me about your home.", "Well, it's an older home. It was made back in the early sixties. It's a pier beam house. Got three bedrooms, one bath and that just makes me scream.", "That's pretty tough What area do you live in?", "I live in Houston.", "Oh, okay. I see. Is that pretty typical for your area?", "Well, for the neighborhood I'm in, yeah, This is one of the more established neighborhoods,", "Huh uh. That sounds real interesting. I live in a suburb of Dallas and, uh, I live in the basic three bedroom, two bath home. So, at least, I have two bathrooms. That's not so bad, but, uh, it's pretty typical for the area, as well. Uh, I've always been interested in older homes, personally. So, I think you can end up doing more with them, it seems like. What about yard space? Do you have lot of, a big lot, or anything like that?", "The whole lot I'm sitting on is roughly half an acre.", "Oh, I see.", "About half of that, about a quarter acre of that, I've got a garden.", "Huh uh. Oh, that's nice. Because I have just like a very small, you know, those basic tract houses, like that. We have a very small yard and, um, I do have garden, but it's extremely small, but, uh, it seems like, though, for your area that, that is sort of different. In a big city like that most houses, I would think, would be sort of like what we live in. Just a you know, basic tract house.", "Well, in the, uh, newer neighborhoods and development communities, the houses are so close together, if your neighbor is having an argument you can here it blow for blow.", "That's exactly right. That's the way we are. We have, uh, one thing we have that we really enjoy here, is we have a hot tub in the back. So we have, we have quite a few parties, and uh, seems like everyone that lives around us, ends up, you know, hearing every conversation that goes on outside with everyone. So, uh, that's true that is one thing that I do n't enjoy about it, is the houses are too close together. But, uh, you know, it's fine for now, hopefully, eventually, we'll move in a larger home. The only thing that I do n't like also is the rooms are so small. You know, it's very difficult to arrange furniture and things like that, so. Are your rooms in your house bigger since it's a sixties home? Because it seems like then, that they built the homes much larger is that true?", "Yeah. And they've got better closet space. ( ( ) ) new houses that I've seen.", "Yeah. Yeah. That's really it. That's a plus. At least we do have like three walk in closets here. So that's, that's maybe not so typical, but, uh,", "It helps a bunch.", "Yeah. It really does, except when you have to fill them up and then you get those Visa bills in. And So anyway, um, anything else about the area, about, um, you know, can you compare yourself to any thing around there.", "Most of the neighborhood I'm in is pretty typical. This whole neighborhood was built between sixty and sixty five.", "Yeah. So it's, it's,", "Everybody has got a ( ( ) ), pretty good size yard, I mean, I got probably the biggest, if not the biggest yard, I've got pretty close to it, in the entire neighborhood.", "That's nice. That is nice. But, you know, too, the only bad thing, too, is that then you have to keep up, you know, you have to, the yard to deal with and,", "I enjoy that though.", "Do you. You must have more time than, than I have. I'm sitting out here right now. We had this terrible rain and I'm looking at the yard and seeing how tall the grass has gotten and it seems like now that's, that's, I almost wish I was in an apartment or something. You know, Yeah. Well, um, I do n't know, do we just terminate this or do you have to talk for a certain amount of time? Do you know?", "No, we can, after you go to somewhere between five and ten minutes, they'll get a little master recording ( ( on ) ),", "Okay. Well, can you tell me anything else about the house Are you working on it? I mean, do people around that area seem to do a lot of renovation?", "Yeah. This entire neighborhood, everybody keeps the places up real nice.", "Yeah. That's, that's nice. Yeah, the town that I came from is, uh, is a, uh, older town, it like, the typical, the typical homes there are like, you know, early nineteen hundreds late eighteen hundreds, and I renovated a house there and that was so much fun. I mean, there, if you do n't live in a house that's at least seventy five to hundred years old, you know, you're just nobody, practically And that was really, that was a good experience for me to learn a lot of discipline and, uh, ( ( ) ) was considered typical for that area. So, uh, it was quite a change for me to come to a house like that now that's just, you know, a very square little box and, you know, there's not a whole lot you can do with it. But, uh, anyway,", "Living in the city has some advantages.", "Yeah. That's true.", "If given the choice, I'm getting out.", "Oh, really. Well, I have lived in a small town for, you know, this, this town was like less than ten thousand people and it was about sixty miles south of Dallas. And, you know, I did n't move out of there until I was, you know, twenty seven and that was just, you know, so I love the big city You know, I had lived in a rural area for, for so long so I've enjoyed it, but, uh, it can, it can get kind of tough. Its like a rat race sometimes.", "That's just something I'll never adapt to. I do n't, I do n't want to be a part of the rat race. I want to be basically just kind of left alone. If I want to sit around and mess with my garden, I'll mess with my garden, if I want to work in the flower beds,", "Yeah. It sounds like you enjoy working outside as well. I, I, yeah. I really do enjoy that. But I have n't planted anything yet or, you know, I usually have gotten flowers coming out the ( ( gazoo ) ), but I, I have n't done that, yet. I've had finals this week. So, uh, you know, I'm just kind of trying to, trying to stick in with that, but, uh, since that's over with now, maybe I can, I can get this yard in shape. Do you do a lot of gardening?", "Uh, landscaping is more, than the gardening, ( ( in the garden ) ) I've got my beans, peas, I've got some onions out, tomatoes, I'm not real sure what they're going to do this year.", "I never have much luck with tomatoes. I do plant a lot of beans, because it seems like, the, uh, bugs get on them so easily and I have a real problem with anything like pesticides or anything like that, so, the only thing that I use is soap. I water, you know, spray the plants, because they say, supposedly, that will keep the bugs off them. But, uh, I do n't have luck with that tomato plant, so I hate to spray them with anything. Um, what do you do? Do you have any tips you could give me?", "Um, my favorite one is putting on the, um, tomato plant is to put, uh, ( ( ) ) dust, and that stuff has been around since the beginning of time,", "That's true. That's true. My dad is a farmer so, I've heard him talk about that forever. I guess it works, but, um, you have to really wash your vegetables after that so it wo n't make you sick. Let's see what else do you do to your house?", "Well, I've done some rewiring on it. Eventually, if we stay here, I'm going to have to rewire the entire house.", "Oh, really. Do you plan on like adding any rooms or, you have enough space you could probably do that. Or is it,", "I've talked about adding at least one more room and definitely adding another bath on.", "Yeah I would think so if you only have one bathroom for three bedrooms, that's tough. Do you not, like, have a half bath.", "Not even a half bath.", "Yeah. Yeah. That's rough. The house that I used to live in had one bath and a half. And that was even just with two people. That was a pain.", "The only thing that saves it, with the schedule I work and the schedule my wife works, we're getting ready to go to work at totally different times. So that. It's not like we're tripping over each other in the morning.", "Really. That could account for a lot of marital problems I think You get to know each other very well if you have to share a bathroom", "It does n't work if you're trying to shave and she's trying to put her eyeliner on and, you're both fighting over the mirror.", "That's right. It does not make for a happy situation. That's true. Well, do you have any children?", "I've got one.", "One child. And they enjoy where they're living?", "We'll, he's nine months old.", "Oh, so he does n't know, right. I guess, he's a big help out in your garden. Right.", "He likes to dig around a little bit. His mother comes in and says, why did you let him play in the dirt, I guess he's enjoying himself.", "That's right. It's healthy, why not. Yeah.", "He was eating the dirt, I would n't worry about it.", "No. It wo n't hurt them. I was a big dirt eater, supposedly, when I was a child and I turned out okay so, do n't worry about it. Just let him enjoy himself So you think that you want to move away from the big city, uh?", "Well, that's what I've always, I was raised up in a town that was about ten thousand people.", "Yeah. So you're just the opposite from me. You want to go back to that, uh,", "After we got married we moved, ended up moving to the Houston area.", "Yeah. Yeah. So are you from Texas?"]}
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Um, you say you watch evenings mostly?", "I watch evenings because I work all day. I used to watch daytimes. Um, mainly like ALL MY CHILDREN, that kind of thing. And then sometimes OPRAH and sometimes DONAHUE, but now it's mainly evenings.", "Do you have any that you like well enough that you tape them when you're not going to be there?", "I tape THIRTY SOMETHING, and L A LAW. Those are the two I like the best.", "Oh, two they're going to change. Well, one they're taking,", " I know. It's going to be history, I know.", " off. I do n't know what's going to ha, yeah, we like L A LAW. We do n't watch THIRTY SOMETHING, but that's kind of young for us. My husband and I are grandparents.", "Oh, well. Well...", "So we do n't watch, uh, that type of show, but we like L A LAW. We like, that. We're just, I'm sorry they're breaking the team up, because we liked all the ones that were on there.", "I know. I'm amazed.", "I'm not sure I like the new ones too much.", "Huh uh. I'm surprised that, I was surprised at the ending of, you know, with all the funny things happening and different things.", "I just wonder if, if, uh, they just want to go on to other projects and not be stuck in this show, since it's gone on for so long, it looks like, it looks like it might be one of these seven or eight year run things. Where you kind of can spend your whole career on one show. Of course, I guess that's not bad. Alan Alda did it on MASH.", "I know. Is n't that funny?", "It has n't hurt him at all. So do you, do you mostly like this type of like a story type of thing that lasts an hour?", "Oh, I do n't usually like stuff that continues. That's why I'm surprised I like those two shows, because usually I like, you know, stuff that just ends sort of, that you just, you do n't have to,", "In one hour, like QUANTUM LEAP.", "have watched, you know. Yeah. I mean, you do n't have to...", "That's one of our favorites", "Yeah. You do n't have to have watched it last week in order to follow, so,", "Right, which they do at the beginning of the season,", "you know, I usually do n't like that.", "to grab your attention. You know, that's always a bummer too. Sometimes it's better just to tape record both of them and then watch it all in one. We, we do that sometimes. I, I guess I'm, I'm not into real heavy stuff. L A LAW is about the heaviest thing I watch. I, I'll, mostly I'm into it for relaxation, so I like things like GOLDEN GIRLS or CHEERS or, uh, Monday night is real good with me, you know, MAJOR DAD and, and, uh, NORTHERN EXPOSURE and, and, uh, oh, what's that one with Burt Reynolds? That type of show is what we what, uh, we watch. We generally just stay on one channel all, for all of Monday night, just to watch those. Just some of the times they're continued, but mostly they're just little vignettes. A new one we found we really like is that DINOSAURS. Have you seen that? That is, it's, it's really funny. They use like animated, it's not like a cartoon, but it's like dummies and things, that are used, and, uh, it's really, um, and robots probably. But there's always a, a moral to each story.", "And what night is it on?", "Well, yo, we watched it, the times we've seen it, it's been like on Satur, or, excuse me, Friday night. Uh, but it's, we've only seen it a couple of times. But it, it's real, the first one we saw, um, they were, it, it involved a tradition of when a per, person reaches seventy five, and I ca n't remember what day they call it, but, but, uh, the son in laws get to throw the mother in laws when they're seventy five over a cliff Anyway, it, it goes on, you know, and the son in law and mother in law are sniping at each other and all, and then when it comes time for him to throw her over, well, the, the teenaged son the night before tried to save her by hiding her. And she said no, you ca n't do, you know, he ran her out, was running to hi, in a wheelchair to hide her, and she said, \" You ca n't do that. \" \" This is tradition. This is what old people are supposed to be, thrown over the, the cliff. \" And, uh, he said, \" I do n't understand. \" It's, it's real funny that they give the teenagers the, as the one that questions, uh, the, what's going on. And, uh, in the end of, uh, the son in law, when he did get the mother in law up to the cliff, uh, th, the so, the teenaged son throws himself in the way and says, \" No, you ca n't do it, \" and then, and then, uh, \" Oh, well, we've got to do it. It's tradition, \" and the son was, you know, \" Why? \" And so, in, in the end he does n't throw her over,", "Oh, he does n't.", "and, of course, the town thinks he's just terrible, because that has been tradition for hundreds of years and he's broken it. And then we saw one where this, there was a teenage, when a teenage boy comes into his manhood, they call it the night of the howling, or something like that, and they all go out and howl, you know And, and the son refused to do it. He, he did, he thought it was not...", "So he did n't go howl?", "No, he would n't go howl, so all the, all the people that worked with the father ostracized him", "Oh, how funny.", "It is. It, it, it's, it's real interesting to watch the show, and, and wh, the relationship between the family is, is really now, now the mother in law lives in the house with them. So it's, our, our grandson, our oldest grandson is the one that, that got us to watching it. But it really is, it moves real fast. It's a real short, and there's always, like I say, a moral to it and,", "It's just a half hour, or is it hour?", "Well, half hour. That, that's all there is to it. And, and, uh, they...", "There's not many half hour shows, it seems like that,", "Yeah, it, it, they, they're trying to liken the, the father in there of the teenage son to like JACKIE GLEASON SHOW. Uh, the way he talks to his mother in law and so forth, and I guess maybe there are some parts of that, but I did n't really see that in there. But what I've read about it, they talk about that. But anyway, we've, we've enjoyed that, and, and, uh, I guess mostly I, I like the news shows too, the news magazines, like SIXTY MINUTES or TWENTY,", "Yeah, no, I watch those if I,", "TWENTY or PRIME TIME LIVE or something like that, you know, all, all of those shows, if I can do it, but my husband likes to watch, um, old movies, especially war movies, or, or, uh, sports, which I'm not,", "Oh, see, I like sports.", "No, I do n't. Well, I, I do, I like ice skating and I like, uh, gymnastics, and some track and field, but I, I, and I'll watch snippets of baseball games and I, I just do n't have that much time to sit and watch the whole thing. And I do n't ever, no matter what's on, I do n't ever just sit and watch T V. I'm usually either doing dishes, or I may be sewing, or, you know, I always have, or letter writing, or I may be working around in the room somehow, but I do n't, I do n't ever just sit and, I, that's something that comes from your old age, you know.", "No, I do n't sit.", "Idle hands are the devil's workshop", "I know. Who has time? I do n't have time to sit, I know.", "No. It's, it's, uh,", "That's why I do n't get to watch that much. I mean, I, watch nine o'clock I do okay, because the kids are all in bed, but before that, I really, there's not much time. Or like at six thirty I'll watch WHEEL OF FORTUNE or something like that.", "Right, well, our, yeah, if our gra, if our grandchildren are with us, that's, they have to watch that. We do n't watch it unless they're here", "Uh huh. No, I like that. No, I'll watch,", "But they, uh,", "game show kind of stuff but,", "It's, it's, um, oh, and, you know, the, the kids will get you started on stuff like AMERICA'S FUNNIEST HOME VIDEOS. We've wound up sending in one. That's something I did n't think that we'd ever do", "Did you send one?", "Yeah. My oldest grandson pulling his tooth. He's, he's, he would n't let us pull it, and I mean, it, it got to the point he was eating a pear here, and he bit into it, and it was just hanging by a thread. And I, and I'd tell him, you know, it's getting ready to fall out, and he walked around the house with his fa, face down toward the floor and his mouth open, hoping it would ( ( fall out ) ), because he would n't let anybody pull it."]}
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It's an A T compatible. I do n't use it very much any more. I used to use it quite a bit. I also have a P C at work that I use as a terminal. I do some P C stand alone work on it, and I can transfer data back and forth between the P C and the main frame. What about you? Do you own a computer?", "Um, well I sort of own a computer. We have two P Cs at home, but neither one do we really own. Um.", "Are you leasing them?", "No, both of them are sort of work related, and,", "Loaners from work?", "Yeah, that's the nicer way, right.", "Do you work for T I?", "No, no. Um, I, actually I'm doing consulting right now because I just had a baby, and my husband's working at Bell Labs, but he's really from France, and these computers actually are from France.", "What brand are they?", "One of them's a Compaq it's a three eighty six and the other is actually a I B M P C compatible, it's a three eighty six, I guess it's twenty five, yeah, three eight six twenty five C maybe I do n't know, no we do n't have the ( ( ) ), ( ( ) ) we decided not to get the ( ( ) ) which is actually another loaner one too that we picked up for a consulting job that my husband was doing and,", "What kind of consulting do you do?", "Um, well, I actually do some work, working at M I T and at NIST, National Institute of Standards and Technology in Washington, and then I worked for Dragon Systems for a while.", "What kind of work do you do when you're consulting?", "Um, well, it depends, it's very different in the different places, but,", "Is it programming related?", "Yeah, yeah. Program related, research related, and I work in the speech field, and I do a lot metacoustic phonetics and looking at the acoustic characteristics of speech, and I do that type of stuff typically for other people, and we, like here we use the P Cs to do that. Mostly I use it for writing papers and things like that. Well, more, uh, do you know Latek?", "not familiar with that.", "Word text processing, so I do n't, I do n't use, I mean, you can call it word processing, but I do n't usually use a word processor to do it and we do n't have too much standard software. Like I have n't bought, we have n't really bought any commercially available software at all. So we do n't use it for things like our accounts and addresses and things like that. We use it more for just writing programs when we need to or, um, doing research, looking at the speech signal and then doing writing, and also as a just as a terminal, and we connect to other computers to read our net mail and things like that.", "So, you've got, you've got a modem in it then.", "Uh, neither one has a modem, but we have a modem.", "you have a modem that you can connect to each of them? Uh, and so it's an external modem.", "Yeah, we have ( ( ) ).", "I got, when I got mine I had an internal modem in it I used it, uh, quite a bit when I was, uh, uh, looking at, uh, information on a large bulletin board sponsored by a newspaper in a, in Fort Worth but, uh, went out of town for a while, and, and sort of got off the, uh, bulletin board and off of my micro completely and after a while the modem started making noises on its own without, uh, even without using it on the computer, I could turn a computer on, it'd start squawking. So I finally opened up the box and took it out.", "So that was it.", "I think that's the thirty second warning.", "Oh, I did n't hear it. Do you hear, the, the beep in the background. Oh, that's a, an ambulance or something going on here, I think. I have n't ever noticed the thirty second warning actually.", "Where are you, and, uh, Are you at home now?", "Yeah, I'm at home.", "So you've got a lot of traffic noise real close.", "Uh huh. So it'd be interesting for the people that look at this signal I mean, because there's a lot of background noise that, you know, people can hear. So it'll be interesting how much of it actually gets picked up. Um, yeah, and often times that, I ca n't talk on th, ca n't do this much later than now, between sort of like six, five thirty and six thirty or something like that, because the traffic outside, they honk the horn so loud I ca n't even hear the phone call.", "What time is it now where you are?", "Uh, about twenty after four.", "So you're an hour ahead of where I am. I'm in Central Central time zone.", "we're Eastern. And, um, what did, did you ever try using like Prodigy or any of those systems?", "No, I have n't done that. Uh, I know someone who has, and, and she's, uh, very, uh, pleased with it. She told me some of the things you can do, and it's just a, a very handy tool to have. Yeah, and you can do a l, it makes things very convenient. You can save a lot of money, too. Certainly cut down on long distance charges if you, if that's what you have in mind.", "Uh huh, yeah, I've never tried using that, I do n't know too much about it. What about, have you, did you use commercially available software or,", "I have, I have used Lotus. I have used, uh, Word Perfect uh, I, not heavy use. I've used, uh, D Base and, uh, I've used a substantial amount of shareware. Um, I have n't done much Lotus work connected with my job. I've been through three classes and I have a great deal of respect for it. Um, I have n't done much word processing work with my job. I do some and I, and the D Base work I've done was strictly class related.", "I've never used D Base, um, but I've heard both good things and bad things about it.", "Well, it's probably the granddaddy of most, uh, data base management systems. It's got some pretty strong competitors. Some of them have reviews that are better than D Base, so, I, I think by now, it's a matter of, uh, personal taste.", "Yeah, people told me that it was sort of cumbersome to use.", "I can understand that very easily. I've used, I've had a class on, um, R Base and also in Paradox and both of those seem very easy to use compared to D Base.", "Uh huh. Do you think you D Base is more flexible or allows you to do more. Or do you think the others are pretty much compatible these days?", "Um, I would n't say compatible, but", "yeah, I did n't mean compatible, I meant comparable. My brain is going to mush. And what do you work on at T I?", "I'm a computer programmer on the I B M main frames. I do, uh, main, mainly business data processing. I also handle production support for the systems in my area of responsibility. Um, sometimes I get called late at night at home because there's a production problem, and that gives me the opportunity to, uh, come in to work and fix it, if I ca n't think of some thing to tell the trouble shooter while we're on the phone."]}
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Because I, I did n't know if that would make a difference in how you felt. Um, what do you think about the proposal that all young Americans should spend a year or two,", "I think it's a good idea. I think everybody should, should, uh, put in their time so to speak for the, for the good of the, the nation and for the good of themselves. I think it's, uh, would every, everyone grow up and mature and, and realize what this country's all about.", "I just, um, I guess that's ( ( ) ), my, that's something that my family has always believed strongly in, and, uh, I had opportunities in high school, to work in some programs, um", "Did you? something fell > >. Oh ! faintly > >.", "and, and I agree with what you said that it's, uh, it benefits the person doing it so much I do n't think they realize and I, uh, I, I think it gives you a better perspective, on life and, uh, it gives you a little bit, uh, more a glimpse of the, the real world and and it would certainly help the country, too, uh.", "Really Yeah, I think that's probably like, uh, quite a few things that, that the kids, uh, maybe not so much nowadays but used to go through, you know, they, just, they were, they did things for people, you know, for their communities, for their, their, uh, families, for their friends, where now, I'm not sure they really do.", "Yeah. Well, I think sometimes through groups and organizations, um, my first, when I first thought of it, I thought it, uh, when they asked the question I thought, well that sounds wonderful. And then, I wondered if people were unwilling but, but I think even if you went in with a negative attitude I do n't think it would stay negative very long. Um, but I do know through some organized groups like Scouts and church do still have opportunities.", "Yeah, that's probably true", "But, I, I think that's a small, uh, number could,", " You know but even, even through those groups, do you think that they participate as much as maybe they used to?", "No, um, not since, um, not as much as I remember growing up. And that was something, uh, I think in the fifties and sixties, um, seemed more common in the last two decades.", "Yeah. I think that's probably true. I think it's probably more true, still in the, in the smaller communities then in the larger cities.", "Yeah. Where, uh, where abouts do you live? What part of the country?", "Well, I live in Richardson right now. Which is just,", " Oh, okay. We're in Plano so we're not far apart.", " Right. Yeah, okay.", "One of the calls I'd gotten before was, uh, down to Austin and, and I know, a friend of mine talked to someone in the midwest so I know there is the possibility that it could be out of the area.", "Gosh, I had n't even thought about it being out of the area but you're right. Yeah. I grew up in a real small town in Florida. I mean a real small town And, uh, I think it was just ( ( ) ), of course it was back in the, in the fifties and I think it was real prevalent back then. I ( ( ) ), I think people thought more of others than they do now. You know, as far as doing things for them and, and then gaining benefits from it.", "Well, and maybe, uh, maybe this would be a way to get that feeling back. Um, if we've lost some of that and it, it seems in the last decade or two, um, that's true, maybe that's a way, if, if young people had to do it um, maybe that would start the trend back because that's one of the things I always thought was a wonderful part of our country. Um,", " Yeah, I do to. I do to.", "is helping others", "I'm not sure that, that today's kids would go for it though. I think you would have to start younger. I, I do n't know how young you'd have to go but I think by the time they're, oh, early teenagers anyway, I think it's too late now. At least around here.", "Yeah, I think, uh, I think it does help, um, even preschoolers, you know they're, um, things even just starting around the home. You know little ones can do a little bit to help the family. And, and just watching the parents do things too, um, it can start a pattern. There's always something, no matter how young, and then that helps develop that attitude. Um, I guess I would really like to see this happen with families more. You know, I think this is certainly a possible way, um, to handle it but I wish, ( ( ) ) that's something that I think that has been lost in families and I think that's a good place to start again.", "Yeah. I think it has to start in the families first because if you do n't do it for, for your own immediate family, you're sure not going to do it for anybody else.", "Yeah. And I do think, um, the schools, if you're trying to do something, even with food drives and, uh, sometimes what Richardson and Plano both, I mean when you live in areas like that where there's so much they do n't realize what a small percentage of the world that is. I mean, that's, uh, gosh I'm sure, not even one percent of the world is as fortunate as these areas and, uh", " That's probably true. That's probably true.", "it's, I know our church youth group, uh, starts with projects young but they have a high school group that works in the Appalachia area every year. They've done this for fourteen years now.", "Oh, that's great.", "Um, and it is, it's, uh, and they've also see that there's, there's a different way of life and those families are really close. Some of the things, that we talked about that were common in the fifties are still there and, uh, it really, every youth that's ever gone really has felt that their life has been changed and it's changed their perspective. And, and that's just the t, two weeks during, during the summer. So, if two weeks, uh, could have that kind of effect I would", "Well, that's, that's great. I'm glad that there are still some areas that, that get the youth involved in that sort of thing. Like I said, I think it does, e, even a small amount of exposure can make a vast difference in their attitudes Well", "Well, I guess, um, did you have anything else?", "No, no I guess that's about all.", "Well, I enjoyed talking with you.", "Well, good talking with you.", "And I hope you have a good evening."]}
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Do you, have you ever had to put your children in, child care, Mary Dell?", " Oh yes. I'm an old experienced hand. I started back when it was n't, stylish to do that at all. My daughter that's seventeen now I worked even when she was a baby. And I had private care for both my daughters until they were two and then I was really lucky to have put them in a, Methodist day school at Preston Hollow Methodist, right off of Walnut Hill and Preston. And it was a wonderful environment. I, I just wish all kids, if they have to be put in day school, could have that kind of place", "Uh huh. I see.", " So, it worked well. How about you?", "Well, I have, uh, a nine year old and a six year old and neither one of them has ever been in in, uh, day care for the reason of, of me working but, uh, they both went through preschool. And, uh, we've just been real lucky I think, anyway. To not,", " It's not hard to find anything that's part time. So many of the churches have really strong", "Right, like half day programs. Uh huh.", " preschool and children's day out but, it was a nightmare back when Cheryl was little and this is one of the few churches that did it. There were a couple downtown Dallas but they were so, seemed,", "like water running > >.", "cold and impersonal, I just could n't hack it. And what I liked about Preston Hollow is that the people that were there when Cheryl was two, which was fifteen years ago, many of them are still there today. So there was real continuity. She went back as a teenager and these people that had changed her diapers when she was three were still there.", "Oh, my gosh.", "So, it, it was really neat. But it was because they had a director that had always done it as a labor of love and she just kept good people and", " Oh my goodness", " real cheerful place, lots of arts and crafts, and I'm really glad my kids had it because Plano schools do so little of that.", "Right. Right. Yeah.", " That if they had n't had it before they hit first grade they were never going to have any art or music or any of the interpretive stuff.", "Uh huh. Yeah, that is, uh, a big drawback I think in that, in the, uh, public schools out here. You know, to, you're lucky to have an art teacher and if you do you get them once a week or something, you know.", " Or pay for it after school. Our Emily's in the third grade over at Huffman and they started a pilot program where we can pay private tuition so that they can take French and music and art and", " Oh is that right? I had no idea.", " you know, I willingly did it but I thought, this makes me angry. This is something that ought to be in the schools", " Oh my goodness.", " rather than some of the other stuff they do.", " And with our budget cuts, I'm sure that's not going to not going to change anytime soon.", " Well that's the only way they're. Yeah, well, that's the only way they're going to be able to do it. And parents who really want their kids to have any humanities are going to have to do that.", "Oh my goodness.", " So, in some ways I think the, the day schools do serve those purposes.", "Yeah. That's true. Well even the preschools, you know they get so much of that in preschool and then when they hit kindergarten, you know, it's like wham Culture shock. It's just,", " Put the colors away", "Yeah, yeah. Get the computers out", " Which is too bad.", "and, you know. It's so difficult for them. Um, did you have your children, did you say in home, in, in, private care, was that in your home or in someone else's home?", " Until they were two. Yeah. Yeah, both times they were at our house.", "Uh huh. So you were able to have somebody come there.", " And that was hard too. I, I lucked out with really good people both times but I know so many people that are never able to find that and I'd practically give my paycheck away to do it, so", " Yeah. Yeah. Did you have a nanny or did you have someone that lived in with you?", "Well no, she did n't live with us. Uh, the first one was an, elderly lady who was putting a, a daughter through nursing school just purely on baby sitting money.", " Oh my goodness.", " And she kept Cheryl during the day and then did more baby sitting at night. And she was neat because she was like the grandmother that my kids never had because both our parents are dead. So that, that was a plus from that respect as well. And then with Emily it was a neighborhood friend that kept her.", "I have, uh,", "I just can not fathom putting a little bitty baby in a commercial care center.", " Uh huh. I was just listening to a program this morning, oh well, I guess it was on the HOME SHOW, but they were talking about, uh, a new, uh, oh I ca n't even think of the name of it. I was halfway listening while I was painting Um, it's some kind of advisory board they've put together for parents and children and they've now moved it to Washington, D C and the, the doctor that was on there, the pediatrician said, you know, I ca n't imagine leaving a three week old and taking them to a nursery day care and leaving them there.", " Oh that would be hard.", "You know, so, um,", "Well, they give a lot more leave. I work at N C N B now, and our benefits for maternal and, and parental care and even for elderly people are, are really expanding. We have more options now then we did when I, my kids were born, with being able to take off full time longer of, you can phase your schedule in so that it's not full time for", " Oh boy, that's great.", " up to six months. It's really neat. I've, I've had a couple of assistants that came back just three days a week or they've, you know, whatever schedule they want from a pay standpoint.", "Uh huh. Uh huh.", "We try to work it with their hours. And that helps because you do n't have to just wean yourself cold turkey and say okay, I never get to see my baby for eight hours a day again. And the bank has a lot of programs now for child care referrals. I've, of course it's too late for me so I've, I've not tried them to see how effective they are but", " Uh huh. Uh huh.", "I think we're finally beginning to make progress but just not very fast", " God, it's amazing faintly > >.", " And for our age group it's too late, too little, too late. But I, I do think it's an area that needs to be looked at and improved because more of us are going to have to work.", "Uh huh. Uh huh.", " Two income families I think are here to stay.", " Well and I would think, you know, since big business is supposedly why the government makes the decisions they do you know, the, the people that work in big business have families they have children. So, it's only to their advantage that they get these programs going and working and, uh,", "You retain employees and keep them longer. That's, that was the rationale they gave when they were giving us information about our Employee Assistance Programs that they want us to be happy and want us to be able to cope with trying to split ourselves in fifteen million pieces So, I, I hope it helps. It seems to help the new mothers", " Oh that's good.", " not have to come back full time. because that's hard.", " That's good to know. I have a couple of friends that, have, have found the, uh, you know, a pri, a private home to take their children to when they're young until they hit the preschool age. And they usually, you know, you'll find a, a woman that's keeping like six children or four to six children in the home and my future, future sister in law's mother does that too, full time.", " Well in Plano though the problem is, you find, and this is what I found with Emily. I, from the time she started first grade, I wanted her out in Plano area. And I kept finding neighbors and friends and they'd move. She ended up being in a different home every year.", " Too transit. Uh huh.", "And I finally decided I did n't like that because it was traumatic to her to get so attached to a family and then have them move.", "And her surroundings.", " So this year I, I tried Kinder Care and,"]}
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I guess we collect m, milk cartons and whatever p, other plastics are acceptable.", "Are you in the part of town where, uh, they have gotten into the other containers yet for recycling?", "No, no, I did n't think that anybody had those at all yet.", "Well, maybe they do n't. I, I know that was supposed to be in May and I could n't tell whether some parts of town had started it or if it was just everybody was, was waiting for the delivery of whatever those containers were.", "Right. Well, no, I have n't seen any, so I, I thought that it all, had all been delayed several times. So I have no idea what they look like and, I'm kind of anxious to see them.", "That's going to be interesting because it's, uh, we've gotten so convenient and conventional in trash disposal which is uh, I look at our big green containers, and I say, well, they work fine and I keep mine outside the garage so that I do n't have any odors but it's clearly a place where, uh, uh, it will be interesting to see how well that works and I am, I'm glad the community is doing it. Uh, it's one of those things that kind of has to be forced on people. Uh, I do n't know if, where you grew up in your, what you saw back, uh, years ago, but for me the thing that strikes me is I, uh, growing up in rural South Dakota where, hey the farmers brought their eggs to town and the local hatchery would candle them and package them is that, uh, in the fifties, uh, you could say we had the recycling going on then that we should have now. Which was all the milk bottles were glass and you got a nickel or dime, which in that time was a lot of money, when you returned them. Pop bottles all had a deposit on them.", "Oh, of course. That, they did. You know actually, we had milk delivered to our house in glass bottles and we had a milk shoot at the side of the house. You could just leave the milkman a note on what you needed and so you just put the empty ones back out there and he took them away and put, you know, put another gallon of glass, glass bottle in there. So, uh, yeah,", "So, uh, you know, I look back at, at, uh, my childhood and I'd say, you know, they were doing things then that we should be doing now and so it does n't bother me at all that we're, we're, uh, kind of starting to put the pressure on people to get away from all this, uh, throwaway society that got developed in the sixties and seventies.", "Right, right, it would be nice, it would be nice to see it take a good turn here. It seems like it started to take a turn and then it went away so I hope that this time it, it stays. Just, To see stacks and stacks of newspapers just to the trash is just amazing. So, uh, you know, we, when we go dump, actually when we go dump our things, oh, we collect newspapers, too, and then take them, seems like there's a pretty well, there's a p, pretty continual flow of people coming and dumping glass and dumping plastics so that's kind of encouraging. I did n't know, you know, I did n't know if we started to do that. I did n't know what to expect.", "Yeah, well I'll have to say I'm, I'm, the only one I'm good at at this point is the newspaper. Uh, taking that to the Boy Scouts and my aluminum cans uh, getting rid of those, but on the plastic, I have, uh, I do n't have any habits there yet and I'm, guess I'm waiting for the city to, to push me in that direction but,", "Well, I guess they will shortly. I, uh,", "But, it just seems like on the larger scale that, you know, the, we always talk about in our society is that economic strife things and I think if, uh, if we just start to put, you know, the nickel deposit on things, like, uh, was the case years ago that, uh, it would have more immediate effect, uh, than, because I remember searching ditches for beer bottles because they were worth money and it seems like beer drinkers are among the worst for throwing things out the window and so outside my little town, we would, uh, go out and look for long neck beer bottle because they were worth something.", "Right. Do you know, I saw in Tom Thumb yesterday, I saw the return to the, uh, the small Coke bottles. And I do n't know if there's a deposit on those or not.", "I, well that's interesting because, they're back to glass, you're saying?", "They were glass, they were the glass, uh, well, let's see, they'd be, I do n't know, maybe ten ounce or six ounce or ten ounce. Sort of a small size, sort of a small size and, and we, anyway we just, we did n't stop and look them, look at them a long time but, and they were packed in the old sort of six pack stick them down, you know, uh sort of, sort of a basket", "The paper carton.", "Right, right, so, I had n't seen that in a long time.", "Yeah. Well, I mean the, you really look and say a lot of the things we need to do, we were doing and we had all the mechanisms in place with the fold up paper cartons, the wood uh, racks which now, basically, you could turn them into the plastic ones that would hold, uh, twenty four bottles. And, and, uh, uh, I'm not really say going back to good old days, but certainly we were doing things the way we think we should do them now.", "Yeah, yeah, well,", "Well, it will be interesting to see how, over the next year, this all works out because, like on the, uh, grass, I'm, I know your husband, uh, does n't really like the paper sacks.", "No, he does n't like the paper sacks and, uh, but he, but, you know, he likes to pick the grass up, too. He does n't,", "I'm the, I'm the same way because otherwise, uh, oh, I'm, I generally listen to Neal Sperry on Saturdays and Neal, uh, Neal's a person who says, I like to pick it up but I do n't believe in throwing it into the, uh, the landfill, so I have my compost pile, but most of us do n't have the, uh, sufficient, lot size to, uh, to do that. Uh, so I'm glad the city's willing to take that on.", "That's nice. I guess they dump it the same place, I wonder where they dump that.", "Well, there's someplace, you know, if it's, because really, when I look at what my grass does in, in actually about twenty four hours, uh, knowing what the farmers do in rural areas, they just take their hay and just build a big mound of it and it naturally, uh, composts or stores and, uh, so all you have to do is just place it somewhere and churn it and it will naturally decompose uh, so you just have to kind of keep in separated and then, uh, who knows how they process it from there and what they turn it into, but it's certainly usable material.", "Yeah, yeah, well they must, they must keep it separate if they have this date in. They have this day now, that it's, you know, separate from the other trash pick up.", "Right But, I, the thing I do n't understand about that is, like when, it's one thing to send grass there, but I've trimmed trees and other things which, uh, end up being something that, clearly wo n't decompose nearly as rapidly,"]}
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Oh, nice, I'm from Dallas, Texas.", "Oh, that's neat.", "Well, did you understand what this was for, you know, what it was for, what we,", "Uh, television shows? Sure, that sounds good.", "Okay I, I do n't watch too many, but we can try it. Are you ready to start? Okay, just a minute", "Okay, I guess we're recording now. What are your favorite television shows?", "Well, I do n't really watch too many T V shows other than, uh, occasionally I'll, I'll turn on DONAHUE because it comes on in the morning when I seem to be getting ready around here. And, uh, so if, if there's no one else around, you know, it's just me and I have a chance to listen to something, I'll turn that on, but, uh, just for the, for the conversation factor, I think, but, and then I think I enjoy when I catch it, I do n't even know what night it's on, but DESIGNING WOMEN sometimes,", "Oh, I love that show.", "Yeah, do you?", "Yes, that is great.", "Yeah, it's fun. And then there's a new one that started out that I've caught occa, a couple of times called GOOD AND EVIL, I think.", "Oh, I heard they just canceled that. I read in today's paper they just canceled that show.", "It is a real different one. It's, uh, it's, it's different. I guess I watch it more out of the uniqueness of it and the time that it comes on more than the fact that I have to see it.", "Have you seen the show, it's, it's new this year, called HOME FRONT?", "No, I have n't watched that.", "Oh, it's, it's really good. It's, uh, I think it's on like Tuesday nights from ten to eleven and it's set in post World War Two times and it's about how the servicemen come home and readjust to civilian life here and the changes everyone's going through. It's really interesting. It's kind of like a s, a nighttime soap opera type thing. It is, it's a good, it's really well written.", "Yeah. Is that on, what chan, what station?", "Uh, I do n't even know, to tell you the truth", "Oh, okay. What other shows do you like?", "Uh, I prefer OPRAH WINFREY", "Well, she comes on later and I usually have kids around so I do n't end, end up watching that one is the only problem I have with it, I guess.", "I did watch soap operas, but I work full time now and ca n't catch those anymore. Except when I'm home sick, and now when I watch them, I think, why did I ever watch those? So when I did watch them I was addicted to them every day. But not anymore.", "That can happen. So do you know of any other shows in the even, or something that you enjoy?", "Oh, uh, tonight I'm looking forward to seeing GOLDEN GIRLS.", "Oh, that's always fun.", "Yes, I like that show. And if I can stay up late enough, I like to catch SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE every now and then.", "Oh, uh huh.", "And right now we're watching a Penn State football game because that's where we live. It's exciting, we're winning, so that's really exciting.", "Yeah, well, I think, I also, course, like to catch the news during the evening hours but, uh, it's a little tough because that's when I'm usually making dinner and the kids are wanting to talk all at the same time. So, usually I do n't get a whole lot of news watching in.", "Yes, we watch C N N in morning while we're getting ready for the day and eating breakfast. We'll catch our news that way. Watch the weather channel so that we know what the weather's going to be like.", "Yeah, yeah. So what have you seen interesting on OPRAH WINFREY lately?", "Lately, I have n't been catching it because of my work schedule. Uh, I ca n't remember the last time I saw it. It's been a while.", "Yeah, well, I do n't know if we've talked our full three minutes or not", "I do n't know, sometimes they come on and, and say.", "Oh, that's right.", "Well, today on C N N they were talking about something like this about, uh, learning to recognize voices and words and stuff and the research that's going on which is kind of what we're doing, helping them get a data base for words. It was really interesting.", "It is interesting. So,", "Do you work for Texas Instruments?", "No, no, just, uh, doing this as a fund raiser for our church.", "Oh, that's nice.", "Yeah, so it kind of makes it easy, you know, to do a little something for it."]}
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{"turn_id": ["3445_0", "3445_1", "3445_2", "3445_3", "3445_4", "3445_5", "3445_6", "3445_7", "3445_8", "3445_9", "3445_10", "3445_11", "3445_12", "3445_13", "3445_14", "3445_15", "3445_16", "3445_17", "3445_18", "3445_19", "3445_20", "3445_21", "3445_22", "3445_23", "3445_24", "3445_25", "3445_26", "3445_27", "3445_28", "3445_29", "3445_30", "3445_31", "3445_32", "3445_33", "3445_34", "3445_35", "3445_36", "3445_37", "3445_38", "3445_39", "3445_40", "3445_41", "3445_42", "3445_43", "3445_44", "3445_45", "3445_46", "3445_47", "3445_48", "3445_49"], "speaker_role": ["Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2"], "utterance": ["All right. I think that gets us off to discussing the topic for tonight.", "Which is movies, correct?", "That is correct. Are you a movie buff?", "Um, yeah. I do n't like going to see them in the theaters but outside of that, rent a lot, watch them on T V mostly.", "Well, I have a V C R and I see most all of mine there. What have you seen recently that you enjoyed?", "Uh, I do n't know, um, actually earlier tonight we were watching TO LIVE AND DIE IN L A. Have you seen that movie?", "No, I have n't.", "It's a kind of one of those psycho ones.", "Now, I, I live alone. Consequently, I do n't like these sa, psycho things.", "Oh, it's not too bad. One of those cop thrillers but,", "Oh, okay. Have you seen the mov, if, do you have a V C R?", "Yes, we do.", "Have you seen the movie CLASS ACTION with Gene Hackman?", "Uh, no, I have n't yet.", "I saw it this weekend and it is, uh, to me an outstanding movie. I thoroughly enjoyed it. He is, uh, an attorney and his daughter is an attorney and she has a suit against his company. You know, it's one of those things. But there's a lot of l, well, it's just it's something that anyone can watch and enjoy.", "He's a good actor though.", "Beg your pardon?", "Um, Gene Hackman's a good actor.", "Yes, he is.", " I think. Do you see HOOSIERS?", "Yes. I've seen HOOSIERS. Saw it just again the other night, for,", " Yeah, actually I, we saw her just the other night too.", "Oh, did you?", "Yeah. It's one of our favorite movies. I, I live with, um, a roommate and my girlfriend the three of us. We've seen that movie probably six times in the last six months.", "Have you seen the movie, um, CROSSING DELANCY? Now, that's one I have watched, oh, six or eight times. I always feel so good when I get through with that movie.", "Yeah, I like those movies that you watch time and time again.", "I do too. DIRTY DANCING and CROSSING DELANCY are two of my favorite. So, well what business are you in?", "I'm, I'm an electrical engineer.", "Oh. In New Hampshire. All right.", " I work in Massachusetts actually.", "Oh, all right. Okay. So is everything going all right up there?", "Um, it's only about, um, half an hour. I live wi, on the border.", "Oh, well that's that bad then. Half an hour, we do that just going to downtown Dallas.", "See we live up in tax free New Hampshire and drive down to Massachusetts to work.", "That makes a lot of sense But, um, we, are you a native of that part of the country?", "Yeah, I grew up in New Hampshire. It seems, southern town, it's called ( ( Portsmouth ) ). It's, I do n't know, fifteen minutes from the Mass, border and five minutes from the main border. * main = Maine?We live right in the corner. That one little spot in New Hampshire, we have ten miles of coastline, I live on one of tho, that little ten mile spot.", "Uh, sounds wonderful. Did you have damage this year with hurricanes?", "Not up, um, where I live but further down the coast in Massachusetts they got hit pretty bad.", "I happened to be in Nassau and we got the backlash of that thing. And they had record high waves, thirty year high waves come in there, and it was quite an experience so. Well, what movies are you looking forward to seeing now?", "Um, well, I'm, I'm only twenty seven years old so THE DOORS movie, that's out on video. I want to watch that.", "Okay. Have you seen GREEN CARD?", " That would be pretty good. No, I have n't seen that one.", "That's a real warm movie. It, it really just turned out nicely. So I would recommend that if you have a chance.", "I'm in for it. We rent a lot of movies so we, we often sit around and say, what movies should we rent? And we do n't know.", " Well if you, if you can get GREEN CARD, go for it.", "All right, we'll try that one.", "I have been working at, uh, as an accountant at the medical school here in Dallas and I have watched, uh, GROSS ANATOMY. Have you seen that one?", "Yeah, I did.", "Okay. And I do n't know I can associate with some of the people in that movie because of the young students I see over at the medical school. But I hope you have a very Merry Christmas. I'm looking forward to it.", "I think we're going to have a white Christmas up here just like the song says."]}
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{"turn_id": ["3580_0", "3580_1", "3580_2", "3580_3", "3580_4", "3580_5", "3580_6", "3580_7", "3580_8", "3580_9", "3580_10", "3580_11", "3580_12", "3580_13", "3580_14", "3580_15", "3580_16", "3580_17", "3580_18", "3580_19", "3580_20", "3580_21", "3580_22", "3580_23", "3580_24", "3580_25", "3580_26", "3580_27", "3580_28", "3580_29", "3580_30", "3580_31", "3580_32"], "speaker_role": ["Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1"], "utterance": ["Uh, well, uh, to begin, I guess, uh, space is, uh, real important, I think, so it's real vital to the future of not only our kids but every generation until the end of time, I guess. So.", "Yeah, I, I agree it's definitely new frontier stuff.", "So, uh, but, uh, I'm not too up to date on the space, on the space frontier, but, uh, I guess they're going, going pretty far into it now. Um, Star Wars is not too far I do n't think.", "I, I, I worked on some of it at T I", "Oh, have you.", "once upon a time. Yeah.", "So what do you know about it.", "Well, actually I'm, I, I'm quite versed lately. I get on a computer network all the time, and people are talking about, about the current space program all the time. They're talking about new rockets that they're designing now that, you know, are just like science fiction, you know, it's like they, take off, you know, and then they land, with the, with the, you know, the afterburners are going, you know, not like space shuttle landing, you know, gliding down, but straight down to the landing pad.", "Oh, my gosh.", "Yeah, it's called V C X or something like that. Also called Delta Clipper, which is a decent name for something like that.", "Well, I do n't know. You think you'd, you think you'd, uh, go up in space if you had a chance?", "I think I would. I think that'd be neat.", "I think I would just sitting here talking about it, but if the time came, it'd be real nervous. I'd be scared, scared me worse than Six Flags roller coaster. That'd be pretty hairy.", "Well, you know, I had a car, uh, uh, a tire come off of a car, so you know, I, like I know what it's like to Depending on what was left of my technology to get me home", "Right, right. So, well, I guess they're talking about people going to the moon and stuff, now, wherever.", "Yeah, they're talking about doing that again, too.", "And opening up those stations, whatever, filling them. I do n't know if we'll ever see that up there.", "Well at least we're going to have a space station supposedly in the next few years. Yeah, and they're going to put,", "That's all beyond my imagination really. But, science fiction books, I mean, you look at the Jetsons, you know, cartoon show, and it's not too far fetched what, what they all had in those cartoons, so you never know.", "Oh, yeah, yeah.", "Any of that stuff from the Jetsons, from that cartoon, that you would never imagine would come, become possible, and now you, we have a lot of those, so, So you never know what, what may occur, but as far as me seeing it, you know, I do n't know I do n't know, but I think it's real vital important for the future, you know generations to come, so.", "Yeah, I, uh, it's, it's, it's something definitely that, uh, you know, it's, it's, uh, got the extra little oomph of interest.", "I'm sure it'll draw a lot more interest too, once it becomes, you know, like it's more possible, but when they start showing the drawings and all that, I'm sure, you know, when they,", "Yeah, I wish, uh, like, uh, Boeing or McDonald Douglas or something like that was supposed to buy, uh, a space shuttle sooner or later and just make it, you know, purely commercial and they'd go up, you know, and do things and,", "So did they scratch those, uh, that Star Wars deal, you know, they one we was all worried about the \" they \" in this sentence should probably be a \" the \" > Russia and all that?", "No, it's still probably going, but I do n't know whether, it, it, research will go on.", "Yeah, but the economy the way it is all over, they probably cut back on on that, because it's not,", "Well, they're, they're going to be cutting back so much on just, you know, the number of troops we've got in Europe and the number of troops we have here.", "Yeah, I know, and then,", "But, uh, Russia's still going to have missiles, they're still going to be subs and things.", "Yeah, and we do n't know who's handling them now so that's a whole different story now.", "Latest I heard it was just going to be Russia that, Russia itself that was going to have them. At least that was, you know, that's what everybody says. Oh, yeah, yeah, we want only Russia to have them. And now they're saying, Yeah, yeah, you're a republic, you do n't want those, you do n't want those. ( ( ) ).", "Some crazy hit man over there so, with those little republican, republics or whatever they splitting it all up now, and one of them crazy crazy guys get a hold of it, you never know. But that, the guy that's taken over for Gorbachev, he's supposed to be, he's supposed to be on our side, is n't he. I think we went through him though to get to Gorbachev on a lot of subjects so, But that way, you ca n't never tell that. Kiss some butt, but,"]}
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{"turn_id": ["3798_0", "3798_1", "3798_2", "3798_3", "3798_4", "3798_5", "3798_6", "3798_7", "3798_8", "3798_9", "3798_10", "3798_11", "3798_12", "3798_13", "3798_14", "3798_15", "3798_16", "3798_17", "3798_18", "3798_19", "3798_20", "3798_21", "3798_22", "3798_23", "3798_24", "3798_25", "3798_26", "3798_27", "3798_28", "3798_29"], "speaker_role": ["Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2"], "utterance": ["Well, Michael, what do you think about, uh, funding for AIDS research? Do you,", "Well, uh, uh, that's something I've thought a lot about. Uh, I, I work in a hospital. And I've worked in the hospital for fifteen years and I've taken care of a few AIDS patients. Uh, when they asked us did, did we want to, uh, keep it the same or, uh, spend more, spend less, I think uh, I think right now what they're spending is adequate. Uh, my, for my personal opinion. Uh, because I think it's something that's going to take them a while to come up with a, uh, vaccine for. I do n't think it's going to be that easy to come up with or I think they already would have by now, you know. And, uh, so I do n't know if, if spending a lot more money would really make any difference right now. I think they're doing the, is as much research as they can possibly do, you know. And, uh, what about you?", "Well, I guess I'm not too aware of how much they're spending right now", "I'm not either. I'm definitely not aware of how much. Uh, that's something I've never really kept up with at all.", "Uh huh, yeah.", "Uh, I do n't,", " I mean, I, go ahead.", "I'm not sure, uh, I know, uh, I've always thought more about the disease rather than the der, research, you know what I mean? And, uh, that sort of thing. Uh, if, if we were talking about the money, uh, I'd just have to say what they're spending is probably enough, simply because I do n't know that much about it.", "Yeah. I mean, I, I can see that research is needed and, you know,", " I think so, I think so.", " I mean it's becoming a major problem. I guess the area that I think more about is I would like to see them focus on, uh, preventing it, uh", "Well, that's true. That's true because, uh, it's a, such an easily preventable disease.", "Right, and I, I feel like just saying, uh, safe sex is not the answer. It's", "It's definitely not.", "abstinence in certain cases and", "That's true, that's true.", "And, knowing, you know,", "Myself, uh, uh, I'm just recently, or about to, get a divorce and, uh, course, I'm not all ready to just run out there and start dating everybody I can or anything. But, it's sort of scary to find yourself single again, you know. And, uh, because you never know what's going to happen You do n't know who you're going to come across, you know. Course, it's, it's not that I'm wanting to, I'm not going to want to go and have sex with everybody I see. But it's something you got to think about these days. A single person. You know, and, uh, I mean, it certainly changed my attitude about that in a hurry.", "I think for a lot of people it has.", "But, uh, uh, I know that, uh, in some of these larger cities they're passing out free syringes and all of that sort of thing to prevent, you know, so that, uh, the drug addicts getting dirty needles and everything. And, uh, I do n't know, I do n't think that's a bad idea. I know it, uh, sort of does n't address the problem of drug addiction It just sort of keeps that going. But, uh, I do n't know, at least drug addiction can be treated whereas AIDS, so far, can not be. You know, so, I do n't know, that, I think that's, I'm not too a, much against the, the passing out of the free syringes myself. I do n't know, what do you think about that?", "Well, yeah, boy that's a hard issue", "It really is.", "It really is.", "It really is. They gave us a hard topic", "Yeah I mean, I, I definitely think that it's the drug problem that needs to be addressed, but as you say, uh, people, I mean, in the meantime, well someone who's not ready to give up drugs, uh, If they're perp, perpetrating the AIDS problem, passing that on to each other, then", " You know, I guess if you consider the two problems, drug addiction and AIDS AIDS would have to come first, I guess, as far as something to, to do about it. So, so I do n't know. Uh, course, there's so many things in the world where, if you solve one problem, you may be creating another you know. And, uh, so I guess you just have to take the two problems and see which is worse. Which is the most important to solve at the time and, I do n't know. But, uh, but I've never looked into how much money they're spending. I have, I have no idea. And I know a lot of our tax money goes to that. But, uh, I really have never looked into it. I have no idea.", "Yeah, I have n't either. I've heard, you know, uh speaking up and saying we're not spending enough and, Mostly that's what I've heard, so I do n't know, And, yet, I know it's, uh, it sounds like big money to me", "I think it is. I think it is. Yeah, it does every, It seems to take more than, uh, for any little thing they do, it seems to take a lot more money that you would think it would.", "Did you have any fear working in the hospital with that,", "That's one thing I've never really feared. Uh, uh, I, a lot of the, my family, you know, they fear me working like that and, under some, some of those conditions, but, uh uh, I do n't fear it at all. Uh, I work in, in the operating room a lot"]}
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{"turn_id": ["3830_0", "3830_1", "3830_2", "3830_3", "3830_4", "3830_5", "3830_6", "3830_7", "3830_8", "3830_9", "3830_10", "3830_11", "3830_12", "3830_13", "3830_14", "3830_15", "3830_16", "3830_17", "3830_18", "3830_19", "3830_20", "3830_21", "3830_22", "3830_23", "3830_24", "3830_25", "3830_26", "3830_27", "3830_28", "3830_29", "3830_30", "3830_31", "3830_32", "3830_33", "3830_34", "3830_35", "3830_36", "3830_37", "3830_38", "3830_39", "3830_40", "3830_41", "3830_42", "3830_43", "3830_44", "3830_45"], "speaker_role": ["Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2"], "utterance": ["How you doing? I'm Lee with, uh, uh, I'm over here in Plano, Texas.", "Okay. Let me ask you something, can I run a minute and shut my radio off?", "Where are you calling from or where are you at? Well, there's a lot of s, stuff going on in Arlington these days.", "Yes, not all good stuff.", "Are you involved in any of that?", "No, I'm not, not personally.", "Well, uh, what benefits do, now, do you work?", "I'm going to school right now.", "Oh, you are?", "I can tell you about my last job or whatever you want to talk about that or my husband's or what I think. I've got a lot of,", "Because I, I work for myself and so, uh, there's a lot that I, that I guess I do miss, uh, a lot of benefits from working for a big corporation. I miss, uh uh, the steady paychecks that come.", "Yes, I've been in my own business, Mary Kay, in fact, I'm selling in out now to go to school full time and", "Oh, is that right?", "I enjoyed the freedom of having that, you know, go to work when I wanted to or not but, you know, the benefits were n't there.", "I, uh, I own part of a roofing company.", "Oh, do you?", "In the, in the Dallas, Fort Worth area. And, uh, you know, unfortunately we, we were part of a, of a bigger, bigger company and they, uh, you know, we, we had all the benefits there and, and I do miss that. You know, but, uh, on the other hand, I, I, uh, I enjoy having the, the time that I have with my family and", "Yeah, uh huh.", "being able to, you know, work when I want and,", "I think today the thing that I, uh, would appreciate the most, uh, because my husband gets, his medical through his company, but we have to pay for mine and we're the only one, I'm the only one that's being insured and", "Oh, is that right?", "and we pay the same amount that someone over there that has four children has, I mean, so it's kind of, And I would, I really, and the way medical expenses are I think that's probably one of the biggest to ha, you need to have.", " Yeah, I'll tell you what, that is the single most uh, benefit that I, that I enjoyed, and I do miss because I looked into picking up some, uh, medical insurance for my, just for my family, you know, just, and it is unbelievable", "It's out of sight.", "how much you have to pay for it.", "Right, it's out of sight.", "And, uh, yeah,", "Even at a group rate, I could n't believe how much", "even at a group rate. Uh, it's, it's unbelievable and, uh, the amount that you have to pay for, you know, for kids and, and if you want to add dental to it, I mean, that's", "Right, it goes up.", " that eats even more. So, yeah, I guess what, the other benefits that, uh, that I, uh, that I miss, I guess is, uh, you know, some of the bonuses and stuff that that goes on with just being involved with a big company, you know and course, these days, you ca n't count on that because uh, you know, I feel bad for the people that are involved in that, uh, G M deal there in in Arlington and I'm sure it will be, you know, quite a few people are affected by that so,", "Right, it's going to hurt the city, although, uh, I will personally tell you, I used to work at a bank, and I would see the G M people come in when they were, they would shut down to retool. They were paid that whole time and I do n't know, if you're aware of this r, Yes, they come in there, just, they go off fishing and stuff and come in and, every Friday, and go to the safety deposit box, and I'm sitting there making a hundred dollars a week, you know and,", "Is that right?", "And they had all these gr, I, I really believe they have done this to themselves, in a way, because of the unions being so stocked.", " The union, yeah.", "And right now, anybody's that's laid off from G M will have a full year's paycheck. I just read this in the paper the other day.", "Is that right?", "Plus probably an additional six months through the, the worker's stuff that they have at, at, uh, through the company so I'm sor, you know, I'm sorry it's happening because it's going to hurt, but I do n't feel as sorry for them, If my husband were laid off tomorrow, we'd get one more check and that would be it.", "Yeah, really the ones it's going to hurt is, is actually the, the businesses around in that area.", "Oh, yeah, that's already", "You know, that's the ones that that that's going to hurt because they depend on that, uh,", "But I think there's a case, where benefits have gotten, they voted them in and they got so good, I mean, like two dollars for a prescription no deductible on the medical, all these things, you know and it made the prices of cars go up and and, you know, the, I, we, I believe in unions, but they went too far.", "Well, I'll tell you, I", "I mean, I ca n't make eighteen dollars an hour.", "I've had my fill of unions I,", "I mean, I know someone out here that makes eighteen dollars an hour."]}
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{"turn_id": ["3917_0", "3917_1", "3917_2", "3917_3", "3917_4", "3917_5", "3917_6", "3917_7", "3917_8", "3917_9", "3917_10", "3917_11", "3917_12", "3917_13", "3917_14", "3917_15", "3917_16", "3917_17", "3917_18", "3917_19", "3917_20", "3917_21", "3917_22", "3917_23", "3917_24", "3917_25", "3917_26", "3917_27", "3917_28"], "speaker_role": ["Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1", "Speaker_2", "Speaker_1"], "utterance": ["Okay. Uh, do you want to go ahead or,", "Oh, sure. Uh, well I, uh, went to school at Madison for two years and they are really big on women's rights. And, and equal treatment. And so I, I've seen a lot of like rallies and things like that. But, uh, I'm not that liberated. I mean my mom is kind of old fashioned, you know. So, I, you know, you pick up some traits from her and stuff. But, uh, I think it's, I think it's interesting and better for women to see that there's more, more of them doing men's fields. I like to see that. And I do n't like to see women, you know, like waiting on men hand and foot but, you know, I, I believe in like sharing and doing things for each other.", "I do too. I like the idea. I see a lot more, uh, my children, I have five children and they're all married. And, uh, I love seeing the men help the women so much. And they both cooperate together on, I think it's great.", "Oh, me too I hope that happens to me someday. I mean, I, I do n't mind doing stuff. Uh, I have a boyfriend and I got to make him dinner and stuff but, you know, I, he'll help me do the dishes. I do n't want to, you know expect to help to clean up then after ( ( ) ) Yeah.", " That's right. That's right. I've always taught my men that. They better clean up with their women and help them. If they did that, you know. And they're, they're good about it. But it is neat to see them all work together. And a big thing that I see. All that, most of the, most of the women getting married now, uh, go back, have gone back to, you know, they, they stay at work or go back to work. Or whatever. And they're well educated. And I believe we'll see a lot more C E Os in companies. They're having a fit about how little there are. And I think we'll see a lot more. Do n't you? Of upper management?", "Oh, yeah. Uh huh.", "Then we do now, even. I think it'll escalate. And, uh, and I think black women now i, in fact I work at a high school. And my boss is a black woman and has only been there a couple of months and already promoted and she's very sharp. And I think that th, and the ethnic thing will be, you know, is a good thing now.", "Oh, me too.", "They're moving them up and they're sharp and they, so you're going to see a lot, a lot more of that in leadership I believe.", "Yeah. I like to see that. I think it's, uh, really neat to see and all that educated minority, uh, person who really knows what they're talking about. And it's just too bad that some people, you know, still look down on them just because of their color. You know.", "Right. That's ( ( a shame ) ).", " Especially black women.", "Yeah. But they ( ( would n't ) ) know what they're doing. But I'm not big on subserving as far as to the men at all. But I never have gone along with that, you know. Even far back. But I was brought up pretty good in a home that, years ago my mother was that way. The same. I, my bo, ther, you know, some people say oh the boys should n't have to do those jobs. The inside jobs. But we never were taught, they had to do as much as we did. So that was good.", " Right, same here. Yeah.", "So that's, I think that's good. To keep the equal as far as, as, uh, not, nex, nex, uh, necessarily by sex type thing.", "Right. Same here.", " You know. You should be able to accomplish as much. And I think the, uh, attitude is a lot better towards the parents raising the younger ones now. You see a lot more of the mothers and all saying to the young girls, you know you can do it. If he can do it, you can do it type thing.", "Exactly. I, I see more men, uh, like participating in like the family things with children. Like, you know, helping to take care of them more. And and, uh, uh, doing the jobs equally, you know,", "Right. What about politics on it? Do you think the political scene?", "I'm not that big on politics. I'm not that educated on it. I'm,", "I'm real dis, I'm kind of disgusted this year because I do n't see many women into the political scene and I really think we should have more", "Oh, yeah. I agree with that.", "political leaders in the women than we do up for, and even for President and Vice President this year, there's nobody again. I think they're all scared out after tha, after, uh, oh, what was the lady's name that ran a couple of, Fitz, I forget her name now.", "Oh, I do n't know", " But you know who I mean?", "Yeah, I know who you're talking about.", " Yeah. She took such a rough go of it. And they t, their tax deal and,", "Yeah. At least she was strong to like try it and you know. So that's good.", " But I wish they would get some more on that. I really was disappointed this year when I see any of the candidates talking that they're talking about. Uh, they, I did n't see any of the women in there. And that disappoints me. And right now I do n't think we have too many. Uh, th, in the forefront. Schroeder's about the biggest one in Washington."]}
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Well, I suspect that it is possible. Uh, I think it probably is more likely if you have a small government unit where everybody knows everybody.", "Right. That's a good point.", "But, uh, other than that I think maybe it just depends on how you define honesty.", "That's an int, you know, that's interesting. I had read something one time and it was just applying to governments in general, it was written many years ago. It said that it's impossible to have a completely honest system of government because people who choose government for their positions are power seekers. And I thought that was interesting. It was n't just talking about our government. It was just government in general. From times past, you know", "So they're saying that government officials would tend to be power seekers.", "Right. And that would be a next question to ask. or are they in there for their own gains, and personally I feel it's probably, there's probably some of each.", "Right. Yeah. But I think maybe a lot of them, um, say the more honest ones who are still looking out for themselves, it may be more matter of not what can I steal while in an office but how many friends can I make while, I'm in office. And, you know, how good a name can I make for myself and so forth. So I guess it would be like anything else. The president of General Motors probably has the same,", "And they talked, uh, the other, let's see. Third question was how m, ( ( ) ) serving for their own gains do you think goes on, then they, that's hard to answ, I'm sure there's a lot. But I agree with you, there's a lot in business. I think that's just, I think that's very normal, that we should not ex, ( ( I think, ) ) I think we put too much on politicians. We expect them to only be there to serve us, you know.", "I think a little more honesty in the campaigns would be, more to the point. If you knew what you were getting when you voted, uh,", "That's a problem, is n't it? It's interesting because I'm taking a Texas government class right now, and one of the things ( ( ) ) it's so easy to blame them to ( ( ) ) a lot of times I think it's our own fault. They lie to us because we do n't want to hear the truth.", " Yeah, they say you, get the government you deserve.", "If they tell us the truth, we do n't ( ( elect ) ) them and, Especially with all this fron, co, stuff coming up here lately about people's past, and I do n't know why anybody would want to get under that scrutiny anymore.", "It's hard to imagine.", "I think it's gotten just care, well, we're not talking about issues we're talking about somebody's personal life and, and we're getting away from what we ought to be looking at", "Yeah, and it almost seems like in order to avoid, uh, some of the scandal, you would have to have the kind of wife that you would only find, on, say in the ( ( Bobsy ) ) twins or, something like that", "You know, I also think it would be funny if we could know everything about the people that were in there and throw them out. I do n't think there would be too many ( ( left ) )", "So you're taking a government course? At what? The university?", "Uh, at, uh, it's T C J C. Tex, Tarrant County Junior College. And it's really, it's really enjoyable. I like it. And then they also, you know, ask can we eliminate, do you think we could make laws to eliminate all corruption, and I do n't think we can make laws to eliminate anything anyplace totally.", "You can make laws against corruption", " Yeah, but that,", " But that does n't eliminate it, does it?", "does n't mean, I do n't think making laws will stop it. I mean I do n't know how many laws you would have to have. I mean, No, sure did n't,", " Milwaukee, did it?", "So no, I think you can legislate but I think there's no way that you eliminate it all by legislating, and we would end up with so many more laws that, you know, I mean I just think that's human nature that you're going to have corruption in government, in business, personal life, I mean, you know.", "Actually, I think other countries may have it worse, uh, the Japanese government is always having a, some kind of a scandal. Usually involving the Prime Minister or people very close to him.", "Yeah, I still believe I get very fed up with government sometimes but when I think about where I'd want to go, you know, this is still the best or I can,", "Yeah, I've been around to a few other countries and I, uh, I, I have not found one yet that I would rather live in. I think, uh,"]}