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"I\\u2019m a vegan myself, but not very activist or preachy (compared to many others). Even so, I still get told to shut up on Facebook and people get offended when I share an article about eating less meat and tell me I\\u2019m making them feel bad.., \\ud83e\\udd37\\ud83c\\udffb\\u200d\\u2640\\ufe0f\\n\\n\\nSo, it ... |
"For physical and mental health reasons, I have to incorporate cholesterol in my diet. How do I get cholesterol as a vegan?", |
"So every time you are on the internet and the question why or why not to eat meat comes up one of the major points on both sides seems to be that it is healthy/unhealthy.\\n\\nBut does anyone really become a vegan, because he/she thinks it\\u2019s healthier? I don\\u2019t get why you would make such a drastic diet c... |
"1) The \\"You're in the right direction\\" viewpoint\\n\\n2) The \\"You're a hypocrit because you don't care for animals 100%\\"\\n\\nWhich one is it? Are there more options?", |
"A while ago I had a neurology practical that required us to dissect a frog to examine its neural pathways for credit. It made me wonder what vegans would think about this. Is this unethical to them? Am I a bad person to them? Now a lot of animals are used for medical research every year in the U.S and other countrie... |
"I can see where vegans/vegetarians are coming from when they say that mass industrialized farms of animals are immoral, but what are your thoughts about hunting for meat? I wouldn't think hunting for meat would be immoral at all, animals have been killing each other for food forever. Getting shot with a gun or cross... |
"http://imgur.com/a/zPHbN\\nthe articles that prof commented: (this)(http://www.businessinsider.com/india-malnutrition-a-story-of-rotting-crops-and-rotten-bureaucracy-2012-7) and (this)(http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/op-ed/The-mother-of-all-disruptions/article16946195.ece)\\n\\nif you want some context, earlier toda... |
"Could someone eloquently explain that chickens are, in fact, harmed?", |
"Does anyone have any solutions to the problems created by invasive species other than extermination of the invasive species? I specifically do not mean measures which help the overall situation while ignoring invasive species, and i specifically do not mean the prevention of invasive species, as we already have many... |
"So I saw this article and I'm pretty torn on how I feel about it. I can definitely understand why it happens (just like feral cats in Australia) but I do wonder if there's another solution. \\n(German Authorities Will Kill Hybrid Wolf-Dog Pups to Protect Wolf Population)(https://focusingonwildlife.com/news/german-au... |
"I'm asking this because I just saw a post on r/damnthatsinteresting subreddit which stated that the first successful pig heart transplant in a person was made. I don't know the details, I don't know if that person is going to die tomorrow, it's really not important for this question.\\n\\nI just want to ask a hypoth... |
"Just curious.", |
"At what point does a being become 'sentient'? Are insects considered to be sentient? Where is the line drawn?", |
"*Apologies if this has been covered here before, I've read a few posts with similar content however none have fully addressed the issues I have*\\n\\nI am currently vegan however I have been considering consuming animal products from sources which I have personally viewed and vetted that are known to have high welfa... |
"So I've been trying to go full vegan for about a year and a half. I'm mostly there but still struggling with certain foods. \\n\\nI today came across a debate from a month ago where most people concluding musicians using antique instruments would not be considered vegan and I found it interesting.\\n\\nI have a rath... |
"Let's pretend that humans can survive by only eating oats. Let's say that oat farming causes the least amount of animal deaths. \\n\\nNow if vegan junk food causes more indirect animal deaths than oats, how are vegans justified to eat it? Isnt the point to reduce as much harm as possible?\\n\\nE.g. The impossible bu... |
"Not much text to this one just wanted to discuss. \\n\\nAI becoming more advanced, if/when they becoming sentient, does owning a Robot become an anti-vegan principle ?", |
"edit: It\\u2019s been made clear to me by the lack of direct answers to my question that I really haven\\u2019t articulated it well. The following is a scenario that can help illustrate the thought experiment.\\n\\nLet\\u2019s say Person A lives in a 1st world country with plenty of non-animal-based options for food... |
"#Edit: After all the discussion in this thread and some thinking about the surrounding factors of small free range farming (like egg laying chickens still being bought from factory farm breeders who kill all the male chicks or the health detrements and likely pain cows and pigs have from being selectively overbred f... |
"My fiance is vegan and so I've been consuming a lot of pro-vegan articles and documentaries. I am also getting into weight lifting and a lot of people over in /r/Fitness recommend the 5-3-1 routine championed by T-Nation. \\n\\nWhile browsing the TNation website, I came across their article (Vegans Suck at Science. ... |
"Vegan here, but want to look into \\u201csustainable\\u201d methods of farming animals. Not sure this is the place for it, but if anyone can point me towards useful, reliable info on sustainable farming methods? I often see people that aren\\u2019t vegan say that they get meat from sustainable sources, or that x typ... |
"Vegan food is too expensive. Compared to meat substitutes it doesn\\u2019t take nearly as long to produce, which makes the vegan market a scandal. What can we do about this so going vegan is more financially attractive and accessible to more people?", |
"eating meat means animals more are brought in world and they're more happy than sad over life therefore it's good to eat meat?", |
"Most ethical arguments i hear about veganism are about \\"causing unnecessary suffering\\". Non-vegans then say that it's still better for animals to have a horrible life than no life at all, and the vegan argument is that you can't ask a non-existent animal if it would rather exist. The counter argument to this is ... |
"I want to get to a point in my life where all my meat is derived from animals that I hunt, I want to get as far away from factory farming as possible and remove myself from perpetuating that industry. How do vegans view this? \\n\\nI understand that the most common argument I hear against this is that you want to re... |
"I keep on seeing vegans insist that \\"grass fed\\" is somehow a fake concept. I beg to differ.\\n\\nI live in a rural area. There are thousands of cows living all around me that live peaceful lives out on pastures consisting of real grass, clean water, and a covered shelter for winter time where they are fed grass ... |
"I'd like to get some feedback on a trait that may be present in infants, one that I think is related to moral agency. My belief is that if I name traits that are associated with different entities, the traits should account for observational differences between the entities. For example, most human infants will grow... |
"Considering that it is very difficult if not impossible to be vegan and not support corporate agribusiness that destroys rainforest and exploits the local labor of the people who live in these areas so that large corporations can unsustainably grow soy, palm oil, paper and other plant-based products, wouldn't the ac... |
"Curious how vegans feel about eating insects and fungus...\\n\\nIntentional and incidental :D\\n\\nIf fungus angle is weird, mycelium (mushrooms) can solve mazes with more accuracy and problem solving prowess than people can. Paul Stammets a leading mycologist as well as peers in the scientific community, are having... |
"As you all know, busting makes me feel good. The ghosts already dead, right? And often times, they're being jerks, like haunting the living n'shit.\\n\\nCan you be vegan and still be a ghost-buster?", |
"**OVERVIEW**\\n\\nHi, /r/DebateAVegan! I'm not really here for a fight, but I am truly curious about how you guys feel about The Vegan Stigma and evangelizing veganism. I come from a place of 100% respect and I value your opinions and values.\\n\\nAs some background, here are some of my views:\\n\\n- I'm currently a... |
"Hi, I'm vegan and have just adopted a cat since he was not having a great time living at my sisters with her two dogs.\\n\\nI'm just interested to hear from anybody who knows more than I do about the dietary requirements of cats. Ie can they live healthily on a vegan diet? If not can they eat vegan food the majority... |
"The crux of my question is whether you are a vegan because you feel it is morally good or because you feel eating animal products is morally bad. A analogous question would be do you practice christianity because you want to go to heaven or rather so you don't go to hell. I find it a tough question to ask in any sit... |
"I'm wondering if you think eating and selling meat and fish should be illegal where it can be punished with fines or imprisonment, or if it should stay legal - but maybe be seen as bad like cheating. Or if you think it's fine like how it's today.\\n\\nPlease explain why. You can write \\"pro legal, vegan\\", \\"pro... |
"So today I see a popular post in the vegan sub saying \\u201chard pill to swallow: if you are not vegan then you are pro-animal abuse\\u201d \\n\\nI would like to hear some thoughtful debate on the following:\\n\\"harder pill to swallow: if you own a smartphone, then you are pro-human suffering and therefore not veg... |
"I am a meat eater & I recently watched a vegan live stream educating people like me on vegan beliefs. This got me thinking.\\nI came to this conclusion.\\n\\n\\u2018Vegans are thinking about the cause, \\nBut not the result.\\u2019\\n\\nLet me explain. I completely understand We don\\u2019t really need to eat meat a... |
"I am sorry that this discussion might probably be overused, however I think I might have something new to discuss with some vegetarians or vegans who are vegetarians or vegans because they believe strongly in the cause. I know vegetarians that follow that movement for stupid reasons... and to discuss with them has n... |
"The part of veganism that is most appealing to me is the idea of reducing suffering. I don't care about health, environment, or animal rights arguments at all.\\n\\nSo, a fish in the wild is going to die eventually, probably eaten by a parasite or a predator, or will die from starvation or disease. How does abstaini... |
"This is a random and largely unimportant question, just curious on what y\\u2019all think. \\n\\nSo in a full dive VR Scenario like the Matrix or Sword Art Online, would you eat an animal? Why or why not ?", |
"So this is a divisive topic for many, and I've heard a range of views on this subject as to whether honey is or is not considered to be vegan. \\n\\nSome vegans say yes, others say no. Here, I hope to gather some of the main arguments for and against, to help build a better understanding of the topic and people's st... |
"A human fetus is capable of feeling pain. They are, in every sense, a \\"captive,\\" every bit as much as an animal in a factory farm. Why aren't there more pro-life vegans?", |
"I am a moral error theorist. I don't believe we have good reasons to suppose that objective moral values exist. That is, objective morals are the kinds of thing that would have to be writ into the fabric of the universe by some sort of creator. Since I don't believe in a creator, I don't believe in objective moral v... |
"The recent (2020 PhilPapers Survey)(https://survey2020.philpeople.org/survey/results/4938) shows most philosophers think omnivorism, construed as the proposition that it is permissible to eat meat and use animal products under ordinary circumstances, is true. \\n\\nIf we narrow the demographic to ethicists, the marg... |
"I've been very passionate about the vegan lifestyle for 10 years, but recently I've been bothered by something....owning pets. Not necessarily the idea of having a pet, but that if you own a cat or dog, for example, you must feed them meat. This results in continuing the support of the meat industry. Can we start en... |
"How am I supposed to debate when 90% of the comments are angry people hurling meaningless insults? I cant scroll through 100 comments and reply to the good ones when I can\\u2019t find them in the endless sea of anger. The folk who can\\u2019t converse maturely really need to just be banned from commenting on any po... |
"During dinners with non-vegans, its easy to end up answering repetitive questions (e.g. why, where you get your protein, supplements). The average reaction is that these people also started to eat less meat etc. etc. \\nOf course it is nice that these people are interested, and that my actions could possibly have a ... |
"I'm certainly not a bamboozle (bamboozling is not universalizable!), so I guess (I have to do this now)(http://i.imgur.com/VmTLhrc.png).\\n\\nSo it seems to me that a lot of the justifications for vegans here are (consequentialist)(https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/consequentialism/), and so I've come to assume tha... |
"Hello all, sorry I don't know if this is the right subreddit to place it - but I've been talking to an ignorant person who ONLY accepts peer reviewed studies (while not having linked any themself, they're just refusing to even acknowledge anything regarding veganism). So, anybody in here who has some peer reviewed s... |
"I\\u2019m sure it\\u2019s been asked but I haven\\u2019t seen this and have been curious about it. What is the view of human life, it\\u2019s conception, and the ethical framing behind abortion through a vegan\\u2019s eyes? Is it a mixed subject among the community?", |
"You can skip the introduction but you will get an idea of how I found this crazy idea.\\n\\n**Introduction:**\\n\\nI've been an ethical vegan for 2 years now. In that time, and it was actually thanks to these things, I learnt critical thinking, bits about philosophy, and debate skills. In all that time, I was learni... |
"If everyone else dogmatically bought from factory farms would you still be vegan?", |
"So is the main difference between vegans and meat eaters the value we put on animals? I've been looking through this subreddit and others on both sides, and I just want to make sure I understand what the disagreement boils down too. Some vegans and vegetarians seen to believe that animal lives are equal to human liv... |
"I don't think I could. Best case scenario, I'm with someone who's open to the idea and I convince them to switch. But it seems like a bad idea to begin a relationship with someone and hope that they'll change on such a fundamental belief. I've read success stories of people converting their SOs to veganism, but I've... |
"So I've been reading up about how cutting out meat is a really good way to help the environment, cut gas emissions, use less resources, etc., and I think thats really cool! I've cut down on milk and cheese for similar reasons plus lactose intolerance is a thing. But I'm having trouble reasoning through why cutting o... |
"It's probably the main thing that keeps me from going vegan - protein. \\n\\nI know there are plenty of examples of protein sources in vegan diets for your average Joe, but what about weightlifters/bodybuilders etc like me that require a *lot* more than that? 50-60g a day isn't going to cut it. \\n\\nAt my current w... |
"I see posts like this all the time. \\u201cEating junk food without hurting the animals\\u201d that\\u2019s just not true. You are not only supporting companies that destroy the planet (like nabisco) and consequently hurting a lot of animals, but you are also contributing to the trashing of the planet with harsh che... |
"To narrow the field of discussion: I am not talking about the ethics of keeping animals at the moment. I only intend to talk about the ethics of hunting and managing animals in the wild. I also do not intend to argue about the far future, just the immediate future. This discussion also does not include any real talk... |
"Since products like milk are not vegan, would products (such as vegetables) obtained through slave labor be vegan?", |
"I will admit off the bat that I am not personally vegan, nor am I close with many people who are. I'm not here to be rude or argue either, I'm just curious because this thought crossed my mind and I realized I don't know the answer. Google has been mostly unhelpful as well, and it seemed like this was the right plac... |
"I am not vegan but have recently been looking at all the horrors of the meat and animal product industry. And the only thing that interested me was the environmental benefits for the planet that going vegan would have. So based off that, I am considering maybe going vegetarian in the future or at very bare minimum s... |
"Hello! I'm someone with autism and I was curious about vegans and their opinions on people with intense food sensitivities. \\n\\nI would like to make it clear that I have no problem with the idea of being vegan at all :) I've personally always felt way more emotionally connected to animals then people so I can unde... |
"Morals do not lead to a convincing argument. Theres no good reason why i should believe that \\"exploiting animals is wrong if it dosent meet X level of necessity\\" or \\"its wrong to deny animals the same rights as humans\\" or really any claim for why something is right or wrong. \\n\\nVegans also argue that vega... |
"Yeh, take that, vegans! Just kidding. This question has been put to me and I want some eye opening dialogue on it because it's a good question, albeit a typical 'gotcha' type one.\\n\\nAnimals as in big land mammals. \\n\\nSo we'd need to kill considerably less animals than we do currently to eat meat.\\n\\nWe could... |
"I don't mean it as \\"Animals eat meat so it's justified.\\" I mean it as what do you think of animals such as wolfs and bears who require meat? Is it wrong for them to consume other animals to sustain themselvses?\\n\\nEdit: I ask this because some vegans only feed carnivours plant based food.\\n\\nI'm not a vegan ... |
"Four plaintiffs have complaints. What would the consequences be, do you think, if they brought their cases to court, and the court ruled either in favor or against them?\\n\\n​\\n\\n|Plaintiff|Complaint|\\n|:-|:-|\\n|A|I ordered a plant-meat sandwich for lunch, believing it to be vegan. After I finished it, I... |
"like, i've never had a good argument with a vegan. it always ends with being insulted, being guilt-tripped, or anything like that. because of this, it's pushed me so far from veganism that i can't even imagine becoming one cause i don't want to be part of such a hateful community. also, i physically cannot become ve... |
" \\n\\nAny moral system (i.e. one based on sentience for instance) that does not have reciprocity as core principle turns a moral agent from an ends to a means, unjustifiably elevating the other animals above the human animal. A justifiable moral duty cannot turn a moral agent into, essentially, a slave. All right... |
"Like, is meat defined by its flavour and texture or its origin? would not calling vegan meat \\"meat\\" by deprecating or help the vegan movement?", |
"Personally, I would do it. I would love to find a way to subject every person indiscriminately to a bite from the Lone Star Tick (it's enzymes and proteins will make a person allergic to red meats for the rest of their life. They can never eat them again.).\\n\\nMy justification is this: all they have to do is stop ... |
"I\\u2019m an ethical egoist. I believe that I should do whatever leads to the most preferable life for myself, for why would I do something that is less preferable than something else? It\\u2019s by definition most preferable. I think we are irrational creatures fundamentally, being compelled in everything we do by ... |
"By succeeding I mean becoming an accepted and used part of mainstream society. \\n\\nMost people including myself have been raised to believe that what we are doing to animals is normal and just a part of the natural food chain (which I of course know is rather distorted). \\n\\nEven though all the ethic arguments a... |
"I acknowledge that veganism is the ethical way to live, but I find it hard to commit to it because it feels like a futile and inconvenient endeavor. I enjoy eating meat and I have learned how to balance my diet and health, so I don\\u2019t feel the urge to switch to a plant-based lifestyle. I would gladly endorse a ... |
"Is it wrong to \\u201crape\\u201d an animal?\\nMost people would probably answer yes.\\n\\nIs it wrong to eat an animal?\\nMost people would probably answer no.\\n\\nWhy is \\u201craping\\u201d an animal worse than killing and eating it?\\n\\nBecause bestiality is illegal?\\nBecause your parents told you it\\u2019s ... |
"I'm really curious what the vegan opinion is on showing animals. I did some research online, but didn't find a lot. Is it done ethically? Could it be done ethically? Is it better or worse than other uses of animals for sport, for example hunting?\\n\\nPlease and thank you!", |
"Vegan plant enjoyer of multiple years here. \\n\\nI have recently been reading some of the posts and I fail to understand what is the big deal about calling veganism a \\"moral philosophy\\"?\\nDon't You think that it would be much smarter to approach this whole thing as it is? Eating plant based is undoubtably much... |
"If your argument hinges on plants not being conscious please include what makes you think this is the case.", |
"For me a mosquito is just an annoying insect trying to get my blood. So when it gets in my room I kill it. I dont feel like its against my morals because it makes no sense to do so.\\n\\nDidnt morals start to exist because they help living together as humans. How come that you just say that they also include animals... |
"Doesn't the however many years of good life where they are treated right outweigh the one day of killing them against there will? While I do believe that if an animal wants to live we don't have the right to kill it, wouldn't giving it a great life and then killing it be better then never living in the first place?"... |
"Will any vegans have an issue or reason to protest and oppose in any community that consumed all of its meats only from hunting with a priority of quick and sudden kills as well restricted its meat consumption to an average of less then 10 to 15% of any individuals diet while prioritizing the consumption of the obta... |
"I\\u2019ve been seeing a lot of meat eaters bring up regenerative farming and saying it\\u2019s better for the environment. What do you guys say to this?", |
"I believe humans are the apex predators of this world, and possibly of this universe. We decide what is right and wrong, and who gets to live and so on. We bend to no one. And we are proud of that fact.\\n\\nAnimals simply play a supporting roles in merely helping us achieve our collective goals. Their sole objectiv... |
"I\\u2019ve been pondering this question recently, and I wonder how many people on this sub feel this way. I see lots of discussions of speciesism, for example; I personally interpret this as meaning that just because animals are a different species to us, it doesn\\u2019t give us the right to exercise total dominion... |
"I know a few vegans and I was wondering what everyone's stance on honey was and how it's produced?", |
"I've tried to become vegan before. I agree with the philosophy and it all makes logical, ethical sense to be vegan.\\n\\nHowever, I start to have withdrawals for meat soon after trying to initiate a vegan diet. I literally drool thinking about meat.\\n\\nMy question is why does this happen? Why is this such a hurdle... |
"I am personally not vegan, nor am I a vegetarian anymore. I was a vegetarian for a period of time only because of peer influence, though I do think there are good reasons to become vegan. I also do believe humans evolved to be omnivores, but through looking at indigenous tribes we can see humans can live long lives ... |
"I call myself vegan, and this year will be my 9 year veganniversary. I do however have a few leather shoes (purchased second hand) and patches on the back of jeans. I don\\u2019t usually wear wool because I don\\u2019t like the feeling, but do have some socks. I often receive free samples from work (outdoor recreati... |
"a very close friend of mine has turned vegan as of a few months ago and i feel like i dread whenever the topic of food comes up because im always scared it'll lead to an argument. I'm not opposed to his beliefs or the things he says about it but i feel like he's charged with so much energy from everything he has res... |
"I am vegan, but I have a question that makes me think twice. Can cows live on their own if not raised for food or are they too far domesticated to live on their own anymore?", |
"I think this will be interesting, because i completely agree with basically everyone that has to do with veganism and i practice basically all of it in my daily life. But here we go. I do not call myself vegan, because i am not. I WAS vegan for 5+ years until I realized that sometimes being non vegan is BETTER for t... |
"So I used to be vegan for health reasons rather than ethical and eventually I went back to eating dairy and eggs products. But in that time I had read up about the ethical stance and I felt guilty eating animal products despite enjoying the taste and so I recommitted years ago.\\n\\nHowever, for the past few years I... |
"people keep telling me that i cant survive in -40C without eating meat.what should i do? ", |
"Most things you do hurt others. Every thing you consume damages the environment or other living beings. I still prefer a car and cheap products over the \\"good\\" (local) ones. Why should I stop eating meat then?", |
"Can this lab meat match the nutritional content of lamb or ox liver?\\nVit A: 813%, B2: 250%, B3: 100%, B6: 53%, B12: 1083%, C: 28%, Iron: 77%\\nOr even remotely close to these numbers? If you think so, please tell me how you know? ", |
"Now this is a hot topic for a lot people. I do not advocate for any particular lifestyle. I am only looking at the health effects and not so much the moral side of the argument. \\n\\nI would like to know if there is any research out there that shows that people who participate on a ketogenic or paleo diet actually ... |
"I believe we are all morally obligated to purchase plant-based fake meats as much as is financially viable. I'll lay my argument out as a syllogism for sake of clarity.\\n\\nP1: Humans will never quit eating unhealthy fast food products. Most people are so addicted to these products that they will never quit eating ... |
"I would like some thoughts from the logic experts on the following premise: \\n\\n**Suppose that X (some evil action) is going to happen no matter what. So one might as well do X and escape moral culpability for X.**\\n\\nWithin the context of veganism, X would be the violent abuse and killing of innocent animals t... |
"As a non vegan (but somebody who does eat certain \\u2018free from\\u2019 foods for health reasons) I rarely see much enticing and convenient vegan food. \\n\\nNow Im talking here about convenience food, lunches quick dinners etc, obviously anything you make from scratch would be simple enough to make vegan. \\n\\nH... |
"I've thought of veganism ever since I've taken a tour of an industrial dairy/pig farm and shocked at what I saw. It's been in my mind for 10+ years. I think our society is utterly obsessed with consumption and pleasure and we eat shitloads of meat without thinking or considering the big picture. Industrial farming f... |
"vegans say that eating eggs is bad because they shred baby chicks. What doesn't make sense to me is that in order for a chick to be born, the egg needs to be fertilized by a rooster (male). So if they kill all the males, how does the egg get fertilized, and why do they need the roosters? Also when it comes to stores... |
"My choosing to stop eating meat will have no impact on the number of animals that suffer during the process of meat production. Giant meat corporations will, obviously, not adjust their supply of meat based on the changes in demand of one individual consumer. Even if tomorrow I were to renounce all animal products, ... |
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