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| Welcome to my final issue of Phrack World News. Many people are wondering why | |
| I am giving it up. There are several reasons, but the most important is that | |
| I will be going to college and will have little (if any) time for the | |
| phreak/hack world or PWN. I doubt I will even be calling any bulletin boards, | |
| but I may make an occasional call to a few of my friends in the community. | |
| The Phrack Inc. VMS is no longer in service and messages will not be received | |
| there by anyone. Phrack Inc. is now in the hands of Sir Francis Drake, Elric | |
| Of Imrryr, and Shooting Shark. | |
| :Knight Lightning | |
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| Dan The Operator; Informant July 27, 1986 | |
| ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | |
| I'm going to assume that all of you have read PWN 14/2 and the details | |
| surrounding SummerCon '87. | |
| This article will feature information collected from our investigation and | |
| quotes from the Noah Tape. | |
| The tape actually has two parts. The front side has part of an Alliance | |
| Teleconference in which Noah attempted to gather information by engineering | |
| hackers. Side B contains 45 minutes of a conversation between Noah and John | |
| Maxfield of BoardScan, in which Noah tried to engineer Maxfield into giving | |
| him information on certain hackers by trading him information on other | |
| hackers. All of this has been going on for a long time although we are unsure | |
| as to how long and Noah was not exactly an informant for Maxfield, it was the | |
| FBI. | |
| -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- | |
| Part One: Noah Engineers his "friends" | |
| The Alliance teleconference recording has about 7 people on it, but the only | |
| people I recognized were Dan The Operator, Il Duce (Fiber Optic), Johnny | |
| Rotten, and The Ninja. | |
| The topics discussed (mostly by Noah) included; | |
| Bill From RNOC / Catch-22 / Doom Prophet / Force Hackers / John Maxfield | |
| Karl Marx / Legion of Doom / Lord Rebel / Neba / Phantom Phreaker | |
| Phucked Agent 04 / Silver Spy / SummerCon '87 / The Rebel / The Videosmith | |
| Here is a look at some of the conversation; [Il Duce=Mark] | |
| ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ | |
| Noah: SILVER SPY, you know him? | |
| Mark: Yeah, what about him? | |
| Noah: Yeah, Paul. | |
| [This was done to make it look like Noah knew him and was his buddy.-KL] | |
| ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ | |
| Noah: Anyway, is LORD REBEL part of LOD? | |
| Mark: He's not really. | |
| Noah: I didn't think so. | |
| Mark: Well, he is, he is sort of. | |
| Noah: Ah, well what does he know. | |
| Mark: Not much. | |
| Noah: Why do they care about him, he's just a pirate. | |
| [Look at this dork! First he tries to act like he knows everything and then | |
| when he realizes he screwed up, he tries to insult LORD REBEL's abilities.-KL] | |
| ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ | |
| Noah: Who else is part of LOD that I missed? | |
| Mark: I don't know who you would have heard of. | |
| Noah: I've pretty much heard of everyone, I just can't think of anyone else. | |
| [Yeah Noah, you are a regular best friend with everyone in LOD.-KL] | |
| ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ | |
| Noah: Want to give out LORD REBEL's number? | |
| Mark: Everybody knows it already. | |
| Noah: What is it? | |
| Mark: Which one? | |
| Noah: Both, all. | |
| Mark: Want do you want to know for, don't you have it? | |
| Noah: Never bothered getting them. What do you got? Mark! | |
| Mark: Yeah. | |
| Noah: Do you have his number? | |
| Mark: Yeah. | |
| Noah: Well, what is it!? | |
| Mark: Why should I say? | |
| Noah: I dunno, you say everyone's got it. | |
| Mark: Yeah, so. | |
| Noah: So if everyone has it, you might as well give it to everybody. | |
| Mark: Not really, I wouldn't want to be the one to tell him that I gave out | |
| his number. | |
| Noah: Ok Mark, fine, it's no problem for me to get anyone's number. I got | |
| VIDEOSMITH's and SILVER SPY's, no problem. [Yeah right, see the other | |
| conversation with John Maxfield.-KL] | |
| ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ | |
| Noah: CATCH-22 is supposed to be the most elite BBS in the United States. | |
| What do you think about that Mark? | |
| Mark: What? | |
| Noah: What do you think about that Mark? | |
| Mark: About what? | |
| Noah: About CATCH-22. | |
| Mark: What about it? | |
| Noah: (pause) Well. | |
| Mark: Its not the greatest board because it's not really that active. | |
| Noah: Right, but what do you think about it? Alright, first off here, first | |
| off, first off, do you have KARL MARX's number? | |
| Mark: What? | |
| Noah: I doubt you have KARL MARX's phone number. | |
| Mark: Ask me if I really care. | |
| Noah: I'm just wondering if YOU DO. | |
| Mark: It's one thing to have all these people's numbers, it's another if you | |
| are welcome to call them. | |
| Noah: Yeah (pause), well are you? | |
| Mark: Why should I say? | |
| Noah: I dunno, I dunno. I'm probably going to ask him anyways. | |
| [I don't think my ragging is even necessary in this excerpt.-KL] | |
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| Noah: Here is what MAXFIELD says, "You got the hackers, and then you got the | |
| people who want to make money off the hackers." Information shouldn't | |
| be free, you should find out things on your own. | |
| [Give me a break Noah, you are the BIGGEST leach I have ever seen -KL] | |
| ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ | |
| One final note to make about the Alliance conversations is that halfway | |
| through, IL DUCE and DAN THE OPERATOR gave out BILL FROM RNOC's full name, | |
| phone number, address, etc. | |
| -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- | |
| Part Two: Noah Engineers John Maxfield | |
| The list of topics discussed in this conversation is much longer; | |
| Arthur Dent / Ben Casey / Big Brother / Bill From RNOC / BoardScan | |
| Captain Crunch / Celtic Phrost / Cheshire Catalyst / Doc Holiday / Easywriter | |
| Genghis Khan / Jenny Jaguar / Jester Sluggo / Karl Marx / Kerrang Khan | |
| Kloey Detect / Max Files / Noah Espert / Legion Of Doom / Legion of Hackers | |
| Lord Digital / Lord Rebel / Mark Tabas / Oryan QUEST / Phucked Agent 04 | |
| Phrack Inc. / Pirate's Hangout / Septic Tank / Sigmund Fraud / The Disk Jockey | |
| The Executioner / The Federation / The *414* Wizard / The Hobbit | |
| The Marauder The Safecracker / The Telecom Security Group / The Videosmith | |
| The Weasel / Tommy Hawk / Torture Chamber / Twilight Zone / Tuc | |
| Violet Boregard / Zepplin | |
| The following are the highlights of the conversation between DAN THE OPERATOR | |
| and JOHN MAXFIELD. [John Maxfield = John] | |
| ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ | |
| Noah: Did you ever find VIDEOSMITH's number? | |
| John: No, matter of fact. You know what it is, I've been on boards he's been | |
| on in the 215 NPA [possibly Atlantis], but well. | |
| Noah: But you don't have his number? | |
| John: Should I? | |
| Noah: He's fairly big, he knows his stuff. I would think he'd be worth | |
| getting a number for. | |
| John: Doesn't do anything for me because you know, just having his number | |
| doesn't get him in trouble or anything. | |
| Noah: Oh, well I don't want him to get in trouble...he's a nice person. So | |
| do you have LORD REBEL's phone number? | |
| John: What do you know about him? | |
| Noah: I think he's up in New York. | |
| John: 914? | |
| Noah: Possibly 718, 212, possibly even 201. [Excuse me you dork. The 201 NPA | |
| is in the state of New Jersey not New York. What a loser Noah is. -KL] | |
| John: If you don't have a number on him I'll have to do an alphabetical | |
| search for him. It takes a while. | |
| Noah: Well we could talk while it's going. I think you're pretty | |
| interesting, you're not boring like I am. | |
| John: Well you're not boring to me as long as I keep getting people's phone | |
| numbers. Bahahahahahahahahah Har har har. | |
| Noah: (Pause)(Pause)(Pause) Bahahahahahahaha. Sheesh. | |
| John: Well let's see what it finds, there's a lot of Lords in there. | |
| Noah: He's part of LOD. | |
| John: Oh he's part of LOD!? | |
| Noah: Yeah. | |
| John: Well I might have him and I might not [What a profound statement -KL]. | |
| Noah: He's not very active in LOD. | |
| [The search for LORD REBEL's information was a failure -KL] | |
| ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ | |
| Noah: I got a question, I'm still trying to figure this out. Are there | |
| people like me who just call you up like this? | |
| John: Yes there are. | |
| Noah: A lot? | |
| John: Enough. You know it's funny, there's people that call up and there | |
| assholes and I'll just hang up on them. There is other people that | |
| call up and well you know they try to feed me bullshit, but at least | |
| they aren't being jerks about it. | |
| Noah: You think I'm feeding you bullshit? | |
| John: I dunno, maybe you are or maybe you aren't. What I'm saying is that | |
| there are people that behave like humans. So there are a few that call | |
| in. | |
| You know when you're working with informants, you got different | |
| categories. You got informants you can trust and you got informants | |
| that well hold on a second. There are some informants, that they could | |
| tell me anything and I'd believe them. Ok, because I know them. Met | |
| them personally maybe or known the guy for 3 or 4 years, his | |
| information is always correct that sort of thing. | |
| Then there is somebody like you that umm is kinda maybe a "Class 2 | |
| Informant." Gives valid phone numbers and information out, but is not | |
| really a true informant. Then there is a "Class 3 Informant" that's | |
| like, ahh somebody like ORYAN QUEST who calls up and turns in somebody | |
| he doesn't like, but that's all he ever does. I don't know if you can | |
| call them Class 1, Class 2, Class 3 exactly but that's how I look at | |
| it. | |
| [Shortly after this, Maxfield gave out JESTER SLUGGO's information -KL] | |
| ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ | |
| Noah: How about Phucked Agent 04? | |
| John: Oh him, his name is XXXXX and he's out in XXXXXXX. | |
| Noah: Something like that. | |
| John: He's one of the jerks that made death threats against me. I kinda | |
| would like to get him. | |
| Noah: You want his number? | |
| John: Yeah. | |
| Noah: Lemme see if I can catch up with him, I know a few people in LOD. | |
| ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ | |
| [Noah tried to get information on KERRANG KHAN for a while and then started | |
| asking about KARL MARX -KL] | |
| Noah: Ok, KARL MARX. | |
| John: Oh, he got busted along with MARK TABAS you know, I told you all about | |
| that. | |
| Noah: Yeah yeah. | |
| John: He lives out in NPA XXX, but he was going to college in XXXXXXXXXX and | |
| I don't have a number for him there. | |
| Noah: He's probably back home now. | |
| John: Yeah, but I probably shouldn't give out his number. He did get popped. | |
| Noah: Aw come on. | |
| John: Nah. | |
| Noah: Come on. | |
| John: Nah. | |
| Noah: Please. | |
| John: Nah. I probably don't have a correct number anyway. | |
| Noah: Dude. Well if you don't have a correct number then give me the old | |
| number. | |
| John: Nah. | |
| Noah: C'mon dude. | |
| John: Nah. | |
| Noah: Dude! | |
| John: Nah nah. Besides I have a feeling that he wouldn't appreciate being | |
| called up by hackers anyway. | |
| Noah: He's still around though! | |
| John: Is he!? | |
| Noah: Yes. | |
| John: Oh really. | |
| Noah: Yes sir. Because he was talking with THE MARAUDER, you know, Todd. | |
| John: Yeah? | |
| Noah: Yeah. | |
| John: That's interesting. | |
| [They went on to discuss THE SAFECRAKER, THE SEPTIC TANK, THE TWILIGHT ZONE, | |
| TORTURE CHAMBER, and THE FEDERATION. Maxfield reveled that he had been on | |
| TWILIGHT ZONE back when THE MARAUDER used to run it. -KL] | |
| ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ | |
| Noah: THE MARAUDER is still home, he didn't go to college. | |
| John: Yeah, MARAUDER, now he is heavy duty. | |
| Noah: Yeah, he knows his snit (not a typo). However, he doesn't brag about | |
| it. | |
| John: Well the thing is, you know is what the hell is he trying to | |
| accomplish? I sometimes kinda wonder what motivates somebody like that. | |
| Noah: What do you mean? | |
| John: Well he wants to screw around with all this stuff, but what's the | |
| point? | |
| ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ | |
| SIGMUND FRAUD, MAX FILES, TOMMY HAWK, TUC, PHRACK INC., MARK TABAS, were next | |
| to be discussed. After which MAXFIELD went on to retell a story about a | |
| district attorney in California that referred to him as a legend in his own | |
| time. Noah then started asking about CAPTAIN CRUNCH and Easywriter, and | |
| Maxfield told him the story of CAPTAIN CRUNCH's latest bust. | |
| ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ | |
| THE DISK JOCKEY, DOC HOLIDAY, THE MARAUDER, BIG BROTHER, ARTHUR DENT, THE | |
| WEASEL, BILL FROM RNOC, THE 414 WIZARD, THE EXECUTIONER, and LORD DIGITAL were | |
| next. | |
| Then it was Noah's turn to unload (although Noah had already given out | |
| information on many of the previously mentioned people). | |
| TUC, THE TELECOM SECURITY GROUP, CELTIC PHROST, ZEPPLIN, and GENGHIS KHAN had | |
| their information handed out freely. | |
| John: I guess I'm going to have the goons come over and pay you a visit. | |
| Noah: Who me? | |
| John: Take your computer, clean your room for you. | |
| Noah: No, no, please... don't... you can't do that. I'll be an informant | |
| dammit. I'll give you all my files, I'll send them immediately... | |
| Federal Express. | |
| John: Sounds good. | |
| Noah: Has anyone ever really done that? | |
| John: Well not by Federal Express. | |
| Noah: I'll send you all my manuals, everything. I'll even tell you my | |
| favorite Sprint code. | |
| John: Sprint would appreciate that. You know, it's interesting that you know | |
| MARAUDER. | |
| Noah: Todd and I, yeah, well we're on a first name basis. [Yeah you know his | |
| first name but that's as far as it goes, isn't it Noah. -KL] | |
| ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ | |
| Noah gave out more people's information and the conversation ran on for | |
| another 20 minutes. The problem is that this is when the tape ran out, but | |
| the conversation was going strong. Noah was giving out numbers alphabetically | |
| and he was still in the C-G area when the tape ran out. There is no telling | |
| as to what was discussed next. | |
| All of the people mentioned at the beginning were discussed in depth and the | |
| excerpts shown here do not necessarily show the extent of the discussion. I | |
| didn't transcript the entire conversation because in doing so would publicly | |
| release information that would be unproductive to our society. | |
| So, many of you are probably still asking yourself, where did we get the FBI | |
| connection from? Well, some time ago, DAN THE OPERATOR used to hang out with | |
| THE TRADER and they were into some kind of stock fraud using Bank Americard or | |
| something along those lines. Something went wrong and Noah was visited by the | |
| FBI. As it turns out, Noah became their informant and they dropped the | |
| charges. | |
| Sometime later, Noah tried to set up TERMINUS (see the current Phrack | |
| Pro-Phile) to meet (unknowingly) with the FBI and give them a tour of his | |
| board, TERMINUS realized what was going on and Noah's plans were ruined. | |
| I hope you learned from this story, don't let yourself be maneuvered by people | |
| like Noah. There are more informants out there than you think. | |
| Written by Knight Lightning | |
| For more information about DAN THE OPERATOR, you should read THE SYNDICATE | |
| REPORTS Transmittal No. 13 by THE SENSEI. Available on finer BBSes/AEs | |
| everywhere. | |
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