hacking

	---[ Phrack Magazine Volume 8, Issue 53 July 8, 1998, article 02 of 15


	-------------------------[ P H R A C K 53 L O O P B A C K


	--------[ Phrack Staff



	[ Ed. note: The letters are perhaps editted for format, but generally not for
	grammar and/or spelling. I try not to correct the vernacular, as it often
	adds a colorful perspective to the letter in question. ]

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	[ P52-02@0xd: ... Something you've mailed to a whiley bunch... ]

	I couldn't help but notice your use of "whiley" rather than the more common
	English word "wily" in the above-quoted paragraph. In the future, take the
	time to grammar and spell check your replies to minimize the emotional
	damage you are bound to suffer.
	--Bob Stratton

	[ WHOA! My bad. Strat has caught me with my proverbial pants around my
	proverbial ankles. Further evidence towards me - not - being
	omnisicient argument (although I still believe this to be conjecture). ]

	P.S. Thanks for the sensible code-formatting discussion. Your style sounds
	a lot like that which kept me sane back when I earned my living writing
	code. The enlightened person's answer, of course, is to use an Emacs minor
	mode, and to let the editor do the work while one types. Emacs is also the
	answer to the Windoze 95 junkie looking for something with which to read
	Phrack. Works for me.

	[ Amen. Except for the emacs part. pico with regexp or vim 5.0 with
	syntax highlighting is the way to go. ]

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	[ P52-09: On the Morality of Phreaking ]

	Dear Phrack,

	I am not a hacker nor a hacker wannabe, so I had only the most passing
	acquaintance with your publication. However, today by chance I came across
	this article in your January 26 issue.

	I am impressed. I did my MA in philosophy, and I was quite nonplussed to see
	such a lucid and philosophical point of view in what is, to my understanding,
	a very specialized publication not typically devoted to philosophy. Though my
	areas of interest were mainly Nietzsche and Deleuze, I found your summary of
	both Mill and Kant to be accurate and well-applied. Kudos, you obviously have
	some very intelligent people on staff, whose talents are not limited to your
	own area of expertise.

	Yours respectfully,
	Sean Saraq
	Toronto

	[ High praise indeed! Thank you for the compliments. It's good to see
	we're read in communities other then that of our target demographic. ]

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	I can't believe you included article 12 in Phrack 50. Is Phrack really
	getting so sad? Have you really got nothing better to publish than
	regurgitated crypto babble?

	[ Despite what you may think, we are not sad. The phrack compound is
	imbibed with much conviviality and festivity. Why, every Friday is
	`punch a mime day`. We hire a mime to come down to the office and we
	all take turns punching him in the face. ]

	Cheers, Chris (XORed that's Fghyud)

	[ That's not a very good XOR implementation you have there. It appears
	an extraneous character has been inserted. Check your pad or the stream
	cipher. Or perhaps check your other regurgitated crypto babble for more
	info. ]

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	For those readers interested in "Piercing Firewalls" (Phrack Issue 52)
	take a look at datapipe.c available at www.rootshell.com. I can't think
	of any way to make it work with X, like tunnel/portal, but it works fine
	with telnet and nothing needs to be running outside the firewall.

	ziro antagonist

	[ Noted. ]

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	Okay, enough nagging about the Milla pics!

	The one thing everyone reading Phrack wants to know is:
	When will you publish nude pictures of dangergrl ???

	[ When your mom gives them back. ]

	Yours Sincerely,
	-anonymous. (i get kicked from #hack enuf as it is already :)

	[ What a suprise. ]

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	While the Juggernaut program is interesting, I've found that its model for
	session stealing is a tad limited. There are two issues, one of which I've
	dealt with. First issue is the one packet read, one packet written paradigm.
	It really should allow separate threads for read/write to avoid getting
	easily out of synch. This I've not dealt with, but it is understandable given
	the second, the ACK storms it creates.

	[ Juggernaut 1.x is very primitive in many ways. Juggernaut++, the next
	generation juggernaut, has been mostly redesigned from the ground up
	with a 90% new code base. It has many things the previous versions
	lacked, including: a much better interface, threading for concurency,
	portability, effcicieny mods, and many bugfixes. ]

	The ACK storms can be avoided with an ARP attack (or possibly an ICMP
	redirect). Send an ARP message to the source of the connection you're
	stealing (an ARP reply) which tells it that the ethernet address of the
	machine it's talking to (the destination machine, which you want to talk to
	instead) is something "off in space" like 2:3:4:5:6:7 instead of the real
	address. This needs to be done fairly often, should be started immediately
	before you start your hijack attack.

	[ Indeed. As long the host will accept and cache unsolicited ARP
	responses, this will work. ]

	The result is that the machine you are intercepting becomes unable to talk to
	the destination and won't desynch the session, and traffic goes to practically
	nothing. After you stop, the ARP table will shortly expire and be updated
	with correct information, so the attack will either appear as a network
	glitch, or you'll get alerted (NT will alert) that an IP address conflict
	exists (but tell nothing about what the conflict is with). Moreover, an ARP
	reply will escape the notice of many network monitoring programs.

	[ Something like this has in fact been implemented in juggernaut++...
	And, just to answer the burning question I get asked so often, NO, J++
	is NOT publically available. ]

	I have sent the code to the original author of Juggernaut (being inclined to
	share knowledge) and wanted to alert you.

	[ The original author of juggernaut and I are pretty close. I'll be shure
	to check with him. ]

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	Hi! My name is StiN.

	[ Mine's route. ]

	I'm from Russia.

	[ I'm from the U.S. ]

	Sorry for my bad English.

	[ Sorry for my bad russian, comrade. ]

	I Have a friend His name is Armany.

	[ I have a friend named Gilgamesh. ]

	Where do you live?

	[ I live in a small one bedroom aprartment with four cats. ]

	How old are you?

	[ 19. ]

	What's yore name?

	[ We already went over this. ]

	What's yore Hobby?

	[ Volunteering for free medical tests of any variety. ]

	Do you knew Russia?

	[ I KNEW RUSSIA BACK IN THE GOOD OLE' DAYS! Back before the collapse. ]

	Good Bay.

	[ Bad Bay: Bay of Pigs. Good bay: Bay of jello. ]

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	Hola, soy Omar

	Soy un fantico de su revista, la sigo desde la phrack 48.
	No soy un hacker, phreaker, o cualquier cosa, soy ms un fantico de las
	malditas mquinas.
	Muy buenos artculos; gracias por las cosas de LINUX (me fueron de mucha
	utilidad)

	Suerte y sigan as.
	Saludos de Uruguay. South Amrica.

	[ Yo quiero taco bell. ]

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	hi,

	where can i find the source code for the legendary internet worm by
	morris (1988) ?

	thanx (i hope u dudez can help me :( )

	[ ftp://idea.sec.dsi.unimi.it/pub/crypt/code/worm_src.tar.gz ]

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	My friends were going to a basketball game at their gay school (Grades

	[ Wow, they have gay schools now? Do they videotape you jerking off
	and looking completely gay and stupid? (http://www.leisuretown.com) ]

	pre-school through 8th grade). They were wearing their wallet chains,
	not causing any harm with them. (It was an after school activity) the

	[ As opposed to those people who have the wallet-chain/morning-stars.
	They are the ones who cause all that wallet-chain inflicted harm. ]

	teachers made them take them off. My friend, Krazy K, asked if he could

	[ Krazy K? Any relation to Daft D? ]

	take off the chain and keep the wallet, but they made him give them the
	whole thing. He thought it was funny, though, especially since he had
	condomes in it (It is a "christian" school). Not that he was going to

	[ Condomes! The condom that's a tent! ]

	use them. They of course being the nosy bastards that they are, rummaged
	around in it to their liking and found them. (We know because they
	talked to him about it.

	[ Good detective work. ]

	He told them it was a joke he was going to do to his friend. "I was going to
	put it in his locker" He said.)

	[ Now that's good humor. ]

	I was wondering about the legality of this whole thing. Is it legal

	[ Perhaps you should wonder about the stupidity of the whole thing first,
	then work your way towards relevance, and then back to stupidity again. ]

	to take someones wallet and chain (Which I consider personal property)
	when it is an after school activity and then look through it? They gave

	[ shrug Sure is fun though, isn't it? Actually, I don't know the laws
	and regulations of gay schools. It just might be allowed. ]

	him no alternative (but to go home, and, "Oh by the way, you can't use
	the phone"). Then to search through the wallet without permission of the
	owner? I am asking because, I would like to get them in trouble, In
	retaliation to the many times I've been screwed there (I go to high

	[ Been screwed at the gay school? Hmm. Did you have any condomes? ]

	school now, thank God). If you could tell me, or know of someone who
	knows, then that would help us.

	Thanks,

	Abs0lute Zer0

	[ You can say that again. ]

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	Dear Editor,

	I would like to take a chance to give my most sincere thanks for
	resurrecting my uttermost respect to the humanity (so often shattered by
	politicians and other freaks) by providing me a unique opportunity to
	immerse myself into the deep wisdom and magic of written word found in the
	Line Noise section. This is truly the place where one can look for (with a
	sense of deep confidence) a genuine proof that every person is a genius on
	the inside.

	[ Well thank you very much. Although I think you are refering to
	loopback. ]

	Driven by this wonderful feeling of replenished hope and respect, I'd like
	to answer a cry for help from a young but talented Hacker Demonhawk, who
	expressed a wish to "blow shit up!!". I used to be a chemist, and I would

	[ Ummm... ]

	like to share, in the spirit of the magazine, my knowledge and provide easy,
	quick instructions for young fighting souls that would assist them in the
	aforementioned noble cause. In other words, how to build a bomb.

	[ Whoops. You just lost me there. ]

	{ rest of message truncated due to overwhelming levels of inanity ... }

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	where would one go to get "private" hacker help?

	[ In the back where they give the lapdances. ]

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	sorry to bother ya...
	i was hoping maybe you could give me some info. don't take me for a complete
	idiot,

	[ Uh oh. ]

	i just don't know much about this kind of stuff.
	maybe u could get me started... give a few tips???

	[ Sure. Never kiss on the first date. Always pack an extra pair of
	socks AND underwear. Never put electrity in your mouth 'just to see
	what would happen'. Also, if you happen to find yourself in the
	position, always at least ask to give someone the reach-around; it's
	common courtesy. ]

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	Hello,
	My name is Robert I guess you could call me a beginner hacker I I was
	wondering if you could please help me out I need some hacking numbers and

	[ Ok. 7, 9, 11, 43, and 834. ]

	passwords just so I can play around on them and get good. Also if you have

	[ Sure. Try `password`, `hacker12`, `pickle`, and `love`. ]

	any files or anything that you think that would be helpful to me please attach

	[ Alright, /dev/random is a good one to start with. ]

	or tell me where I can get them. I just bought the book Secerts Of A Super
	Hacker By Knightmare is that any good if there is any books I should get

	[ Ah yes, the book of the truly desperate and depraved. As was said once
	before by Voayger, Knightmare's biggest hack was getting that book
	actually published. ]

	please tell me or if you have any text please send. I am running windows 95

	[ Can you put Windows 95 in your mouth? NO! Such is Mango! ]

	Thanks For Ur Time
	Robert

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	Dear Sir
	I like you hacker people because you made life easy
	to a lot of people

	[ Especially the makers of fine Bavarian shoe-horns. ]

	I want to ask you an important question to me
	When connecting to Internet, I found that some sites inform me with my ISP IP#

	So if they're any possibility that any site can track me
	and identify the following
	1-what country I came from?

	[ Well; if you're dialing up to your ISP, and connecting to 'sites' from
	there, that would be a one hop jump out to the world. And yes; they
	could find out what country you're coming from, unless you're dialed
	into a provider in another country. In which case; it might be a little
	more difficult. The other tipoff is when you scan in your birth
	certificate and put it up on your webpage along side your current
	address and a head shot.

	That's a 'no-no'. ]

	2-what is my phone number?

	[ Are you asking us if we know your number? Or if someone can find your
	number when you connect to their machine and they know your IP address?
	I'm confused, so I'll answer the question both ways.

	A-1: No. We don't know your number, and we don't want it. While we're
	at it. We don't want to make out with you either. Quit sending us the
	flowers. It's over this time once and for all.

	A-2: If you did something that would incite someone to try to find your
	phone number; odds are if it was an illegal action your ISP would gladly
	hand your information to the first law enforcement person who walked
	through the door. Or for that matter, anyone who asks nicely. ISPs
	aren't exactly known for being well guarded vaults of information. ]

	Globally can any site by coordination with my ISP track me and catch me?

	[ Ever hear of Kevin Mitnick? ]

	Please provide me with a full answer quickly.

	[ Do people not realize this is a quarterly magazine? Quick for us is
	3 months. If you've done something stupid and gotten busted; our
	sincerest apologies for being late. Next time we'll drop what we're
	doing and get right to it. ]

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	I am a Indiana University student currently studying Criminal Justice. I am
	trying to gather data and find information concerning computer hacking and
	governmental and/or corporate involvement. The twist that I am persuing
	concerns a rumor that I had heard. I was told that when some computer
	hackers were caught, they were recruited by the government and/or
	corporations to work in their security department. Usually where there is a
	rumor, there is some truth to the matter, especially when concerning the
	department of defense. I don't know if you could help me find information
	concerning this issue. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

	Respectfully,
	Jason Sturgeon

	[ Well... We at Phrack haven't heard anything about the DoD hiring
	'hackers', it's been our understanding that the government at least
	prefers straight laced guys with military background to handle their
	stuff. Although it's not out of the realms of possibility that they've
	hired 'hackers', if it's happened it's of rare occurance, and those
	individuals who fit the title of 'hacker' probably don't conform to your
	definition of what a 'hacker' really is..

	Corporations and The Government for the most part tend to shy away from
	'hackers', if merely for the stigma of being a 'hacker'. But as a
	stereotype, hackers conjur up all sorts of bad mental images for
	respectable management types. We're sure it's happened to some capacity,
	but we have no witty anticdotes concerning it. ]

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	Hello there

	I have heard there are some risks using callback modems.
	Can you give me some more info on this, or info where to look

	[ Risks of callback modems are fairly simple. The problems involved with
	them are a little bit more complex. We'll discuss both in an effort to
	best cover this subject. The overall fundamental flaw of callback
	modems is the idea that you could 'fake' a hang-up on your end, or play
	a dialtone in an effort to fool the modem into thinking it hung up. Then
	you wait for it to dial the number, and once it's done, 'ATA' your modem
	and pick up the carrier.

	We ourselves have tested this a couple times with moderate success, it's
	not 100% accurate, and it also depends on the hardware on the remote
	side.

	If the call-back information is based of ANI, that could provide more
	problems, since the Phrack staff has heard the rumor that you can fake
	ANI with certian types of ISDN set-ups.

	The two types of callback modem configurations, one being a program that
	acts as a frontend to the dialing mechanism, the other being hardware
	based.

	Such as, you dial in to the modem, the program asks you to authenticate
	yourself by some means, you do so; it hangs up and calls the number
	that's paired with your authenication information. This isn't so bad,
	but if anyone remembers back when certian BBSs had callback that you
	could enter, you could make them call arbitrary phone numbers by putting
	in a fake number if their door was misconfigured.

	As far as hardware based call-back, whence you program the passwords and
	numbers into the modem and it deals with the whole transaction,
	introduces a scalability issue as well as the fact that the modem has no
	means to log on it's own, etc.. etc.. etc.

	If any readers wish to write an article based on this subject you are
	urged to write it and send it in. It'd be nice to see some more solid
	information on this subject.

	As well; if any companies wish to send us modems, we urge you to send us
	some modems so we can put them up against a battery of hacker tested and
	hacker approved tests. ]

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	I would like to know about cellular phones....how to find out secret
	pin, how to listen to calls etc....

	[ I would like to know more about marshmellows. How they're planted, the
	way they're picked in the spring time as they blossom from the little
	tiny buds you get in 'Swiss Miss Hot Coco', to the fat chewey vessles of
	taste and excitment that they are at full maturity.

	I would like to find out the secrets of gravity, as well as a good solid
	reason why the universe keeps 'expanding' -- without any of that "just
	because" rhetoric that seems to dominate the subject. ]

	If You need the cellular make I'll be obliged to give it to you....

	[ Wow. You'll give us your phone just so we can look at it? Send us your
	home address and we'll send you a S.A.S.E to mail it back to us in. ]

	Thanks. Anthony.

	[ No. Thank _you_ your generosity Anthony! ]

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	Hiya,

	Not wishing to sound like a playboy forum article but I have read phrack for

	[ Already my interest is waning... ]

	quite a while and have only seen cause to write now.
	I commend you on your editorial on C programming style. The sooner we get out

	[ And I commend you on your commendation. +100 points. ]

	there and club to death those people that use single space indentation the
	better.

	I do however have three main points to disagree with you on.

	1. Write as many comments as you can. You may need to remember what it
	was you where coding AFTER copious amounts of recriational drugs.

	[ Nah. You don't want to get out of hand with the commenting. You end
	up commenting needlessly and redundancy abounds. And if you can't read
	your own code, kill yourself. -100 points. ]

	2. Put your own varaibles with uppercase first letters (to distinguish them
	from sys vars)

	[ `sys vars`? What like argc, argv or errno? This is a ridiculous
	suggestion. It makes your code ugly and harder to parse. I award you
	no points. ]

	3. In reference to your comment

	"In the grand scheme of things, none are really
	any more correct than any others, except mine."

	It must be said that this is completely wrong. The only point that counts
	is in fact mine.

	[ Not when it's in my magazine. With a final score of 0, you lose. ]

	Regards,
	andrewm at quicknet dot com dot au

	[ Cute. ]

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	Dear Guys,

	First off, I'd like to say that I am ever more impressed with the quality
	of each successive issue of Phrack.

	[ Danke. ]

	The reason for this mail it to respond to the request made by N0_eCH0 in
	Ireland in issue 52. Myself and a few friends are happy to help this guy
	out if we can. I'm afraid that we're no great sources of knowledge, but
	are willing to have a crack at most things.

	Anyway, if you can pass this on, as there was no e-mail address for
	N0_eCH0, I'd be much obliged. Keep up the excellent work, I look forward
	to issue 53 !

	ben_w@netcom.co.uk

	[ There you go. ]

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	To whom it may concern:

	I was wonder how I can read someone dir and take over their
	account the kernal is 2.0.0. How could I hack into the system
	without having a passwd!!

	[ I assume you mean Linux. `LILO: linux init=/bin/sh`. Oh, and you need
	console access. Good luck. ]

	Thanx!

	Tag

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	[ P52-19@0x2: Statement of Louis J. Freeh, Director F.B.I... ]


	Hello,

	I would like to say that the article, published as P52-19 is without
	a doubt one of the most frightening threats to our freedom that man has
	ever seen.

	the article is:
	"The Impact of Encryption
	on Public Safety

	Statement of Louis J. Freeh, Director
	Federal Bureau of Investigation"

	This article basically states that Americans should have now
	personal communication rights whatsoever. The Director of the FBI
	practically states that strong encryption should be banned from the
	public, because he wants law enforcement officers to be able to read all
	of our mail. He says that this would be for reasons of terrorists and
	criminals, but fails to state that the security of the average American
	would be compromised. Due to his proposal that you would have to
	forfeit your key to government officials, and that these keys would only
	be used "for the immediate decryption of criminal-related encrypted
	communications or electronic information.". Or maybe this way the
	government can just intrecept all of your communications.
	My main objection to this is the irrelevancy that this would have to
	the general public. According to US law, the US Postal Service is the
	ultimate form of private security. The average American should be able
	to send a letter to anywhere in the world, and it should be completely
	safe. And what more can you send with encrypted email? A program, but
	you can do that with a disk in a letter. So whats stopping these
	terrorists from hopping on down to the Post Office?
	Another problem with this proposal is that encrypted information is
	more used to protect your information from other parties then the
	government. I can guarantee that the average Joe living down the street
	is encrypting his love letter to his mistress Jane so that his wife
	doesn't see int, not so that some lazy, fat, government "official"
	doesn't see it. Most people use this technology for much more practical
	usage than the deception of the government. We use it because of the
	millions of people on the Net, and perhapse we don't want those millions
	to see every little thing about our personal lives.
	And finally, why should the government be able to restrict our right
	to gather peacefully? With technology moving so fast, i think that it
	is reasonable to assume that the Internet is a gathering place? We have
	all of the means of normal communication and more. Chat rooms, email,
	and programs like Mirabilis's ICQ allow us to communicate on a whole new
	level.
	In light of all of this, i hope you share my opinions now about the
	loss of freedom that this would represent. Thank you.

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	Hi,

	I am a little sysadm on a little Linux-Server on the net.

	[ I have little interest in those details. ]

	I am searching for documents about System Security under Linux/UNIX
	just to be up-to-date :) Thank you for your help.

	[ http://www.redhat.com/linux-info/security/linux-security/ ]

	And btw...I have parts of the /etc/shadow file from my ISP...what
	can I do with this? Can I just run crack over it?

	[ Well now, that all depends on what parts you have, doesn't it...?
	If you have the encrypted hashes, then you're in business. ]

	And, btw: Not all germans hate americans...I am german and I
	don't hate americans... and my generation has nothing to do with
	the WWII...

	[ Oh, I think you do. I am relatively certian that, somewhere deep
	down, you dislike us. You couldn't take a shellacking like you did
	in WWII (not to mention spaetzle) and not feel some sort of
	resentment. It's ok. Embrace your malevolent feelings. Hug them.
	C'mon! Once you've done that, you can dissolve them. I admonish you to
	TURN THAT FROWN UPSIDE-DOWN! Cmon! Bodyslam yourself into gayness! ]

	-firefox01

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	Hello there, good to talk to you.

	[ Likewise. ]

	I am just this "Thinker" with this thought why don't we the Hackers and you
	the one of the major contributing Hacker commune (2600,Phrack,ect) make a Full
	Strong "live" Cryto network for the Hacker and by the Hacker.

	[ I have a thought. Get a speak n' spell. ]

	I can't belive I am sending this from hotmail bought out by
	microshit blah blah no this thing must be really insecure.

	[ Well, maybe it just needs love and attention and for someone to say nice
	things to it. ]

	Well I have a whole line of ideas and no one ever listens to me
	netscape ect... but if your intrested e-mail me back and I'll give you
	my POP adress. The benifit of this system is 1) we can piss off the FBI

	[ Yes, let's piss off the F.B.I. And, while we're at it, let's piss off
	the IRS and let's annoy the CIA.. We can poke fun at the retarded
	wrestlers association. And lastly, let's aggravate an enraged bull. ]

	and 2) final we hackers can have a place to loyter and idile , lurk at

	[ loyter and idile? Hey, aren't they those two Jewish film critics? I
	love them! ]

	where we can say what ever the Hell such as Full deatails on how to
	enter a sys,ect...of corse we will have to screen ppl for trust ect...

	[ And screen them for stupidity. ]

	But I reall belive we can werk this.
	If you want to here the rest of my ground shaking ideas just ask, or
	full deatials on the Crypto.net .

	[ Pass. ]

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	First off, I'd like to say that I love the mag...but you really get some
	nutjobs that post to it..(myself included) I'm not an elite hacker, a unix
	guru or anything like that(duh), but I am amazed at the effort you put into
	Phrack...anyways, keep up the good work

	[ Thanks, nutjob. ]

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	Hello,

	Who was the first hacker in history?

	[ God. ]

	thanks for your time,
	greetings,
	Max

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	Hi.

	i'm a Swedish kid and i just wonders

	[ Now the Swedes I like. Beautiful women. Amazing accents. I think
	they like me. Although this one particularly hot Swedish girl I know
	doesn't seem to like me much. I think maybe it's because I try too hard
	around her. She'll come around and I'll be like bouncing off the walls
	trying to impress her.. I remember one time I got so excited I almost
	set sail for gaiety. I know. I know. I should "just relax" and
	everything will fall into place. I dunno tho. She's so pretty. And
	ahm just so awkward... ]

	if you might know a good haking, freaking and craking
	site. I've checked everywhere but i have not any.

	[ Huh? ]

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	Hey sup, I'm makin an essay site similar to Slackers Inc. but with more
	essays. The only problem is I need sponsors to get my page up, can you pay me
	a small fee monthly for displayin a banner for your site. I know almost

	[ O.k. Sure, how does nothing/month sound? ]

	everybody knows about Phrack Magazine but I heard you do some sponsoring, E-
	mail me back if you are interested.

	[ Yah, we are so reknown for our advertising budget. And now I'd like to
	make Phrack reknown for sponsoring a gay fucking highschool/college paper
	stealing webpage. Sure. I'll get right on that after we do our 'kick
	a baby harp seal campaign'. ]

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	You need to write an Interactive tutorial to simulate hacking into a
	private college or a company. You should make it realistic and hard to access.

	[ Someone already did. They're called .edu and .com. Although sometimes
	they're not too realistic. ]

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	[ P52-14: International Crime Syndicate Association ]

	Dorathea Demming,

	You remark that the ICSA doesn't guarantee their certification against
	attack.

	"In plain English, they are saying that if you get sued, you are on your
	own."

	Do you know of any security company, consultant, or consortia that will
	commit to helping a customer legally if they've been attacked?

	Stu

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	In skateboarding you are a "poseur" if you don't know shit.
	In the computers culture you are a "lamer" if you don't know shit.

	The term that bugs me is "elite" or "eleet" or "3l33t3".
	Are you elite?

	I just don't like the term.
	I really like the term "HI-FI" ,as in high-fidelity, or high-fidelity
	stereo's.

	An outdate term that orginally meant "I've got the best gear".
	But now it just means "late 70's marketing scheme".

	Are you hi-fi?
	It has a ring to it.
	You may be elite right now but in time you'll be hi-fi.

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