index,id,post,cleaned_post,translation,relevance 274,dbu4d09,"I've been on it for about 6 weeks now at the same dosage as you and I've been pretty satisfied so far. My pre-HCG total T was 344 and after a month it was up to 977. I did have to go on AI after a month or so as made my E2 skyrocket, but all that is taken care of now. If you have insurance be sure to have the doctor say it's for hypogonadism treatment and not for fertility and insurance will be more likely to pay for it. I get everything for $15/month. I'd at least give it a try, just keep an eye out on increased E2 symptoms. Remember that TRT isn't a quick fix either. ","I've been on it for about 6 weeks now at the same dosage as you and I've been pretty satisfied so far. My pre-HCG total T was 344 and after a month it was up to 977. I did have to go on AI after a month or so as made my E2 skyrocket, but all that is taken care of now. If you have insurance be sure to have the doctor say it's for hypogonadism treatment and not for fertility and insurance will be more likely to pay for it. I get everything for 15month. I'd at least give it a try, just keep an eye out on increased E2 symptoms. Remember that TRT isn't a quick fix either.","我已经服用了大约6周，与你的剂量相同，到目前为止我还挺满意的。我使用HCG前的总睾酮水平为344，一个月后上升到977。 大概一个月后，我不得不服用AI，因为它让我的E2暴涨，但现在一切都已经处理好了。 如果你有保险，务必让医生说这是用于睾丸功能减退的治疗，而不是用于生育，这样保险更有可能支付。我每个月只需15美元就能得到一切。 我建议你至少试试，只是要注意E2增加的症状。记住，激素替代治疗也不是快速解决问题的办法。",0 2283,dbu5wzp,"For most diseases, AI has a long way to go before it can diagnose patients even reasonably close to doctor level accuracy. But that is okay. We don't need an AI to replace doctor's -- rather we need an AI that serves as a clinical aid. In other words, the opportunity for machine learning in the medical field lies where doctors need the most help (i.e diseases where doctor to doctor agreement is low) or the doctor's can't interpret the results. Maybe you measure the expression levels for 100 genes for a patient. Your typical doctor won't know how to interpret that data. And maybe the biologist who measured the expression levels has an idea but not in a rigorous or formal manner. This is where machine learning can come in. Algorithms can make sense of this data given a trustworthy label set (which is also a nontrivial task depending on the disease or event you are trying to predict or screen for). ","For most diseases, AI has a long way to go before it can diagnose patients even reasonably close to doctor level accuracy. But that is okay. We don't need an AI to replace doctor's -- rather we need an AI that serves as a clinical aid. In other words, the opportunity for machine learning in the medical field lies where doctors need the most help (i.e diseases where doctor to doctor agreement is low) or the doctor's can't interpret the results. Maybe you measure the expression levels for 100 genes for a patient. Your typical doctor won't know how to interpret that data. And maybe the biologist who measured the expression levels has an idea but not in a rigorous or formal manner. This is where machine learning can come in. Algorithms can make sense of this data given a trustworthy label set (which is also a nontrivial task depending on the disease or event you are trying to predict or screen for).", 对于大多数疾病来说，人工智能在诊断患者方面还有很长的路要走，甚至无法达到医生水平的准确度。但没关系。我们不需要人工智能来取代医生，而是需要一种能作为临床辅助的人工智能。换句话说，机器学习在医疗领域的机会在于医生最需要帮助的地方（即医生之间的一致性较低的疾病）或医生无法解释结果的情况下。也许你为一个患者测量了100个基因的表达水平。你一般的医生不知道如何解释这些数据。也许测量基因表达水平的生物学家有点想法，但不是以严谨或正式的方式。这就是机器学习可以发挥作用的地方。算法可以在给定可信的标签集的情况下理解这些数据（这也是一个取决于你尝试预测或筛查的疾病或事件的艰巨任务）。,1 2891,dbv6xk8,I go to an actual "wellness" doctor that specializes and that's exactly what he prescribes: HCG+ clomid + AI. ,I go to an actual "wellness" doctor that specializes and that's exactly what he prescribes: HCG clomid AI.,我去的是一家专门专攻这方面的真正的“健康”医生，他开的药方就是：HCG+克罗米芬+人工智能。,0 1146,dbwnd38,"At the moment people are accepting less money. There is empirical evidence for stagnant wage growth while top earners see large increases, of widening gaps in prosperity and the hollowing out of middle wage jobs. Anecdotally nearly all the managers have gone from where I work. At the moment the technology that drives efficiency improvements is software. So the labour market has responded so that instead of job losses, people work for less money and for less hours. And in some countries that drop off the economic wagon, like Spain, unemployment is very high. I don't think tech unemployment will be much in evidence until self driving cars are totally legal and in widespread use. It'll be a time when Ai is trusted with the life and death safety of humans more than humans are. And it means medical diagnosis without a doctor and house building without an architect. I think if your job just involves your mind and not your body, you might be in trouble. What we do with all the money saved by not hiring all those expensive educated people, all those doctors, architects and lawyers will determine how this turns out. If it's spent on business activity that hires less people per dollar, then the labour squeeze continues. I think that's the key phrase People hired per dollar. ","At the moment people are accepting less money. There is empirical evidence for stagnant wage growth while top earners see large increases, of widening gaps in prosperity and the hollowing out of middle wage jobs. Anecdotally nearly all the managers have gone from where I work. At the moment the technology that drives efficiency improvements is software. So the labour market has responded so that instead of job losses, people work for less money and for less hours. And in some countries that drop off the economic wagon, like Spain, unemployment is very high. I don't think tech unemployment will be much in evidence until self driving cars are totally legal and in widespread use. It'll be a time when Ai is trusted with the life and death safety of humans more than humans are. And it means medical diagnosis without a doctor and house building without an architect. I think if your job just involves your mind and not your body, you might be in trouble. What we do with all the money saved by not hiring all those expensive educated people, all those doctors, architects and lawyers will determine how this turns out. If it's spent on business activity that hires less people per dollar, then the labour squeeze continues. I think that's the key phrase People hired per dollar.","目前人们接受了更少的钱。有实证证据表明工资增长停滞，而高收入者大幅增加，导致繁荣差距扩大，中等工资岗位被挖空。根据我的工作经验，几乎所有的管理人员都离开了。目前，推动效率提高的技术是软件。 因此，劳动力市场做出了回应，人们不是失业，而是接受更少的工资，工作时间也更少。在一些国家，像西班牙这样经济衰退的国家，失业率非常高。 我认为，在自动驾驶汽车完全合法且广泛使用之前，技术失业不会有很明显的迹象。到那时，人工智能会被信任，比人类更能保障人类的生死安全。这意味着医疗诊断不需要医生，建筑设计也不需要建筑师。如果你的工作只涉及头脑而不是身体，可能就会有麻烦。 我们如何利用因不雇佣所有那些昂贵的受过教育的人，医生、建筑师和律师而省下来的钱，将决定这将如何发展。如果把这些钱花在每美元雇佣更少的人的商业活动上，那么劳动力紧缩会继续下去。我认为这是关键的短语, ""每美元雇佣的人""。",1 993,dbxmnwt,"I mean that AI in the popular sci-fi sense is not possible in the conceivable future. Current advanced ""AI"" techniques are based on brute force pattern recognition. We do not have programs that analyze things in the same ways that humans do. Surgeons being fully replaced in the future? Possible or even probable. Diagnostic doctors might also be mostly replaced, so I'll give you that. But researchers looking for new cures? You won't be able to do that with computers. Business executives? Their job has an important social aspect that won't be replaced by AI in the conceivable future. Lawyers? I don't know enough about law but from my understanding of it, cases can be complicated and not black-and-white, so I doubt they will be replaced. Scientists, engineers, and programmers will not be replaced, although their jobs will change and be guided to some extent by computers. Computers are great at pattern recognition but aren't so great at original thought. We will need people to generate more data to feed to the computers. Oh, also artists and writers and other creative types are unlikely to be replaced by computers.","I mean that AI in the popular sci-fi sense is not possible in the conceivable future. Current advanced ""AI"" techniques are based on brute force pattern recognition. We do not have programs that analyze things in the same ways that humans do. Surgeons being fully replaced in the future? Possible or even probable. Diagnostic doctors might also be mostly replaced, so I'll give you that. But researchers looking for new cures? You won't be able to do that with computers. Business executives? Their job has an important social aspect that won't be replaced by AI in the conceivable future. Lawyers? I don't know enough about law but from my understanding of it, cases can be complicated and not black-and-white, so I doubt they will be replaced. Scientists, engineers, and programmers will not be replaced, although their jobs will change and be guided to some extent by computers. Computers are great at pattern recognition but aren't so great at original thought. We will need people to generate more data to feed to the computers. Oh, also artists and writers and other creative types are unlikely to be replaced by computers.","我的意思是，从流行的科幻意义上来说，未来可预见的时间内不可能出现AI。目前先进的“AI”技术是基于 brute force 模式识别的。我们没有能够像人类那样分析事物的程序。 将来完全被取代的外科医生？可能甚至很有可能。诊断医生也可能会大多被取代，所以我可以承认这一点。但是正在寻找新疗法的研究人员？你不可能用计算机来做到那一点。商业高管？他们的工作具有重要的社会层面，未来可预见的时间内不会被AI所取代。律师？我对法律了解不够，但从我的理解来看，案件可能很复杂，非黑即白，所以我怀疑它们将会被取代。 科学家、工程师和程序员不会被取代，尽管他们的工作将会发生变化，并在一定程度上受到计算机的指导。计算机在模式识别方面很厉害，但在原创思维方面不擅长。我们需要人来产生更多的数据供计算机使用。哦，还有艺术家、作家和其他创意类型的人不太可能被计算机所取代。",1 4122,dbzkzkg,"Considering that there is already AI that performs diagnosis better than doctors, this would be trivial to automate.","Considering that there is already AI that performs diagnosis better than doctors, this would be trivial to automate.",鉴于已经有AI可以比医生更准确地诊断疾病，这种工作很容易就可以实现自动化。,1 1912,dbzysfg,"The work gets signed off by a doctor, but the research that a fully qualified doctor would do is being replaced by robots. It's like a phone book really. Coming up with a diagnosis is like looking through a phone book backwards, but verifying it is much easier if you have medical training. Law it's a similar deal. A lot of work that was done by lawyers (not legal assistants) is being automated so that less time is needed in the end. That last steps will come eventually, but more and more of the job is being automated. I was just reading a paper today about AI that can generate high resolution pictures from a text description... that was something most people would still call impossible. ","The work gets signed off by a doctor, but the research that a fully qualified doctor would do is being replaced by robots. It's like a phone book really. Coming up with a diagnosis is like looking through a phone book backwards, but verifying it is much easier if you have medical training. Law it's a similar deal. A lot of work that was done by lawyers (not legal assistants) is being automated so that less time is needed in the end. That last steps will come eventually, but more and more of the job is being automated. I was just reading a paper today about AI that can generate high resolution pictures from a text description... that was something most people would still call impossible.",医生会先审核这项工作，但是一个完全合格的医生会做的研究正在被机器人取代。就像是电话簿一样。做出诊断就像是倒着查电话簿，但是如果你有医学培训，验证它就容易多了。法律也是类似情况。很多律师（而不是法律助理）做的工作正在被自动化，以至于最终需要的时间会更少。最后的步骤最终会到来，但是工作的更多部分正在被自动化。我今天刚看了一篇关于AI能够从文本描述生成高分辨率图片的论文……那是多数人仍然觉得不可能的。,1 2533,dc0opyl,"The annoying thing is, automation shouldn't be a concern. It should be a boon to all. The advancement of technology and automation are what has made modern life a lot better than life in the past. No toiling on the farm from dawn to dusk for 99.9% of humanity. No body breaking factory work. It should be a GOOD thing that no one will need to screw the same bolt eight thousand times a day, or destroy their lungs in a coal mine, or drive long distances from home for long periods of time torn between contrasting demands of their employers and safety regulations. The problem is that we currently have a paradigm that is rapidly becoming outdated. The paradigm is that a human being must work to justify their life. In all of human history human labor has been the central element of the economy. Things did not get down without a human sweating for it. But that's going to come to a pass, if it hasn't already. Sure there will be jobs that need doing by humans (unless full AI comes about unexpetedly) for the foreseeable future, but I don't think we're long from the point that there simply are not enough worthwhile jobs for everyone on the planet to do. It'd be simply inefficient to employ humans to do what a machine can do better and more cheaply. There is going to have to be a global paradigm shift. The idea of ""earning"" your right to live has always, IMO, been problematic but in the future it will become downright insane. The shift could go one of two ways: sharing the profits of industry around artificially (IE wealth redistribution by governments) so the unemployed masses don't starve or depopulation. When we think of a future where all factory work is done by machines, where all transport is automated, where even ""intellectual"" work is being assisted or even wholly performed by learning machines, we should think ""God how nice it will be for no one to have to work!"" Not ""But how will I get a job?"" Heh, thinking about this I realized that the argument in my head was just repeating a song, [""The Good Doctor""](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgGYwXYt3J0) by the Protomen. ""They waited so long for this day, For someone to take the death away. No son would ever have to say, 'My father worked into his grave!' ... If you replace the working parts, You get a different machine. The man who turns the wheels They will follow anywhere he leads.""","The annoying thing is, automation shouldn't be a concern. It should be a boon to all. The advancement of technology and automation are what has made modern life a lot better than life in the past. No toiling on the farm from dawn to dusk for 99.9 of humanity. No body breaking factory work. It should be a GOOD thing that no one will need to screw the same bolt eight thousand times a day, or destroy their lungs in a coal mine, or drive long distances from home for long periods of time torn between contrasting demands of their employers and safety regulations. The problem is that we currently have a paradigm that is rapidly becoming outdated. The paradigm is that a human being must work to justify their life. In all of human history human labor has been the central element of the economy. Things did not get down without a human sweating for it. But that's going to come to a pass, if it hasn't already. Sure there will be jobs that need doing by humans (unless full AI comes about unexpetedly) for the foreseeable future, but I don't think we're long from the point that there simply are not enough worthwhile jobs for everyone on the planet to do. It'd be simply inefficient to employ humans to do what a machine can do better and more cheaply. There is going to have to be a global paradigm shift. The idea of ""earning"" your right to live has always, IMO, been problematic but in the future it will become downright insane. The shift could go one of two ways: sharing the profits of industry around artificially (IE wealth redistribution by governments) so the unemployed masses don't starve or depopulation. When we think of a future where all factory work is done by machines, where all transport is automated, where even ""intellectual"" work is being assisted or even wholly performed by learning machines, we should think ""God how nice it will be for no one to have to work!"" Not ""But how will I get a job?"" Heh, thinking about this I realized that the argument in my head was just repeating a song, ""The Good Doctor""(https:www.youtube.comwatch?vvgGYwXYt3J0) by the Protomen. ""They waited so long for this day, For someone to take the death away. No son would ever have to say, 'My father worked into his grave!' ... If you replace the working parts, You get a different machine. The man who turns the wheels They will follow anywhere he leads.""","翻译：烦人的是，自动化不应该是一个问题。它应该是对所有人的福音。科技和自动化的进步使现代生活比过去好多了。99.9%的人不再需要从黎明到黄昏在农场劳作。不再需要在工厂里做伤身的工作。没人需要一天螺丝拧八千次，或者在煤矿里毁掉肺部，或者为了工作和安全规定之间犹豫不决而不得不长途驾驶。 问题是，我们目前的范式正在迅速过时。范式是，一个人必须工作来证明自己的生存。在人类历史上，人类劳动一直是经济的核心元素。没有人辛苦劳作，就没有完成事情。但是，如果还没有的话，这个观念就要过时了。 当然，有一些工作在可预见的将来还需要人类来完成（除非全面有望出现的人工智能），但我认为我们很快就会到达这样一点：地球上根本没有足够的有意义的工作供每个人去做。雇用人类来做机器能更好更便宜地完成的事情，这简直是低效的。 我们将不得不进行全球范式转变。在我看来，“挣得”生存权的想法一直存在问题，但在未来，这种想法将变得疯狂。这种转变可能有两种方式：人工（即政府进行财富再分配），这样失业群众就不会饿死；或者人口减少。 当我们想到未来所有工厂工作都由机器完成，所有运输都自动化，甚至连“智力”工作都由学习型机器辅助或者完全完成时，我们应该想到“天哪，没人再需要工作了！”而不是“但我怎么找到工作？” 嘿，我想到了我脑海中的争论只是在重复一首歌，即Protomen的《好医生》。 “他们等待了这一天很久， 有人拿走了死亡。 儿子永远不必说， ‘我父亲干到了他的坟墓！’ ... 如果你换掉工作的部分， 你会得到一个不同的机器。 转动这些齿轮的人 他们会追随他的任何引导。”",0 642,dc2hyyr,"If we get general AI, all of them. If we have a nuclear war, most of us will be reassigned as scavengers and raiders, maybe some mercenaries and doctors etc.","If we get general AI, all of them. If we have a nuclear war, most of us will be reassigned as scavengers and raiders, maybe some mercenaries and doctors etc.",如果我们达到了通用人工智能，那么所有的岗位都会发生变化。如果发生核战争，大多数人都会被重新分配为搜刮者和掠夺者，可能还会有一些雇佣兵和医生等。,1 3189,dc2ku5e,"> all this AI stuff is bullshit All the speculation over superintelligence is. It's philosophy, it's speculation built on speculation built on speculation built on speculation. Go read those sources, they are just as much empty philosophy and speculation as the waitbutwhy ~~article~~ blogposts itself. I'm sure you can find an equal amount of profound speculation about the philosophers stone from the era when alchemy was the big thing. What it boils down to is this: **The fundament of philosophical AI is fiction and everything built on top of it also becomes fictional** Actual Artificial Intelligence on the other hand is a very real thing. It's software, **technical constructs that people actually understand and create.** Do you see the distinction here and why it might be important? Because philosophical AI leans strongly towards being a mysteriously opaque human being with superpowers and a tendency towards evil, we then have, if we conflate them, an argument to ban or restrict technical AI, or expect more of it than it can provide. >This is why I try not to get into Reddit arguments. Because you might actually learn something and have a reason to change your mind? I guess you'd love to live in the era of philosophical medicine, where the cure for anemia was bloodletting and the argument for such a practice was countless of sources of the most genius of speculative doctors?","gt; all this AI stuff is bullshit All the speculation over superintelligence is. It's philosophy, it's speculation built on speculation built on speculation built on speculation. Go read those sources, they are just as much empty philosophy and speculation as the waitbutwhy article blogposts itself. I'm sure you can find an equal amount of profound speculation about the philosophers stone from the era when alchemy was the big thing. What it boils down to is this: The fundament of philosophical AI is fiction and everything built on top of it also becomes fictional Actual Artificial Intelligence on the other hand is a very real thing. It's software, technical constructs that people actually understand and create. Do you see the distinction here and why it might be important? Because philosophical AI leans strongly towards being a mysteriously opaque human being with superpowers and a tendency towards evil, we then have, if we conflate them, an argument to ban or restrict technical AI, or expect more of it than it can provide. gt;This is why I try not to get into Reddit arguments. Because you might actually learn something and have a reason to change your mind? I guess you'd love to live in the era of philosophical medicine, where the cure for anemia was bloodletting and the argument for such a practice was countless of sources of the most genius of speculative doctors?","「所有这些人工智能的东西都是胡说八道」 对超级智能的所有猜测都是。这是哲学，是建立在推测之上的推测。去读那些来源，它们就和waitbutwhy的博客一样，充斥着空洞的哲学和假设。我敢肯定你可以在炼金术盛行的时代找到同样深刻的关于哲学石的推测。最终归结起来就是：**哲学人工智能的基础是虚构的，而所有建立在其之上的东西也变得虚构**。 另一方面，实际的人工智能是一个非常现实的东西。它是软件，**由人们真正理解和创造的技术构建**。你看到这里的区别了吗，为什么这可能很重要？因为哲学人工智能倾向于成为一个神秘而不透明的人类，拥有超能力且倾向于邪恶，所以如果我们混淆了它们，就会有一个禁止或限制技术人工智能的理由，或者期望它提供更多。 >这就是为什么我尽量不参与Reddit争论。 因为你可能会真的学到一些东西，从而有理由改变你的想法？我猜你应该喜欢生活在哲学医学的时代，那时治疗贫血的方法是放血，而支持这种做法的论据则是无数最聪明的推测医生的来源？",0 4057,dc3iyfv,"As strong go playing AIs become accessible to regular go players, professionals have already speculated on how long it will take for the AI industry to build AIs that can explain why a move is good to a human. Companies like Google may need to look into this sort of thing if they go into the medical industry. When a doctor makes a decision on the advice of an AI, having the AI explain its recommendations would be a huge boon for the AI companies. ","As strong go playing AIs become accessible to regular go players, professionals have already speculated on how long it will take for the AI industry to build AIs that can explain why a move is good to a human. Companies like Google may need to look into this sort of thing if they go into the medical industry. When a doctor makes a decision on the advice of an AI, having the AI explain its recommendations would be a huge boon for the AI companies.","随着越来越多普通围棋玩家都能用得上强大的人工智能，专业围棋手已经开始猜测人工智能行业需要多久才能开发出能向人类解释为什么某步棋好的人工智能。 像谷歌这样的公司可能需要考虑这种事情，如果他们进入医疗行业的话。当医生在人工智能的建议下做决定时，让人工智能解释其推荐将会对人工智能公司来说是个巨大的帮助。",1 3209,dc61m47,"A bit late to the thread but I just saw it for the first time today. I am... whelmed. After the (imo awesome) double episode with the Silent left some major questions and cliffhangers, this one seemed like it was squeezed in without much context. The episode was okay i guess when viewed as a standalone episode but can't compare to the better ones, especially when considering it has a very similar resolution to The Lodger just a few eps ago (okay, I know, that's another season, but I'm binging). The siren couldn't win me over in what little build-up she was given. I'm not yet entirely convinced of Matt Smith's Doctor but he started to get interesting during the last two episodes. On the plus side, space pirates! /e: Just noticed the resolution is almost exactly the same as Empty Child (but imo not as good). Advanced automated medical AI ""taking care of"" people against their will after stranding on earth. How did I not notice earlier? :D","A bit late to the thread but I just saw it for the first time today. I am... whelmed. After the (imo awesome) double episode with the Silent left some major questions and cliffhangers, this one seemed like it was squeezed in without much context. The episode was okay i guess when viewed as a standalone episode but can't compare to the better ones, especially when considering it has a very similar resolution to The Lodger just a few eps ago (okay, I know, that's another season, but I'm binging). The siren couldn't win me over in what little build-up she was given. I'm not yet entirely convinced of Matt Smith's Doctor but he started to get interesting during the last two episodes. On the plus side, space pirates! e: Just noticed the resolution is almost exactly the same as Empty Child (but imo not as good). Advanced automated medical AI ""taking care of"" people against their will after stranding on earth. How did I not notice earlier? :D",有点晚来这个帖子，但今天我第一次看到它。我感觉...普通吧。在我看来，之前那两集和沉默者有关的剧情非常棒，留下了很多问题和悬念，而这一集似乎没有太多前因后果。作为单独的一集来看，这集还行吧，但无法和更好的集数相比，特别是考虑到它的结局与几集前的《寄宿客》非常相似（我知道，那是另一个季度，但我正在狂追中）。海妖在她所获得的很少的铺垫中没有让我喜欢上她。我还没有完全信服马特·史密斯的博士，但他在最后两集开始变得有趣。积极的一面是，太空海盗！/额，刚刚注意到结局几乎和《空虚的孩子》一样（但我认为没有那么好）。先进的自动医疗人工智能迫使人们留在地球后“照顾”他们。我怎么没早点注意到呢？ :D,0 3590,dc713s2,"Since they've already been able to replace doctors, programmers and scientists with machines, I struggle to think of a single job that's safe from automation. This isn't a fad, it's an inevitable result of advances in AI combined with the profit motive. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pq-S557XQU","Since they've already been able to replace doctors, programmers and scientists with machines, I struggle to think of a single job that's safe from automation. This isn't a fad, it's an inevitable result of advances in AI combined with the profit motive. https:www.youtube.comwatch?v7Pq-S557XQU","自从他们已经能够用机器取代医生，程序员和科学家，我很难想到有哪个工作是免于自动化的。这不是一种时尚，而是人工智能进步与利润动机相结合的必然结果。 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pq-S557XQU",1 372,dcb1nqr,"What separates nurses/NPs/PAs from physicians is the clinical accumen. Hiring more nurses & PAs to ""do a doctor's job"" is bad practice. Augmenting a doctor's capabilities with AI = good idea. Why would you want someone less qualified making decisions with tools, when you could have the more qualified person making the decision with those same tools.","What separates nursesNPsPAs from physicians is the clinical accumen. Hiring more nurses amp; PAs to ""do a doctor's job"" is bad practice. Augmenting a doctor's capabilities with AI good idea. Why would you want someone less qualified making decisions with tools, when you could have the more qualified person making the decision with those same tools.","护士/护士长/助理医师和医生的区别在于临床能力。 雇佣更多的护士和助理医师来“做医生的工作”是不好的做法。 利用人工智能增强医生的能力是个好主意。 为什么你想让一个资格较低的人用工具做决定，而不是让一个更资格更高的人用同样的工具做决定呢？",1 213,dcb2eho,Doctors will be replaced by AI. Nurses and PA's will be around for a while though.,Doctors will be replaced by AI. Nurses and PA's will be around for a while though.,医生会被人工智能取代。但护士和助理医师还会继续存在一段时间。,1 3122,dccckjp,"I agree with some of your points, but technology is exponential. We will guaranteed have fully automated surgeries happening in 10 or so years. Where do the surgeons go now? And yes, physicians do more than diagnose people, but a lot of the other stuff they do can be done by AI. They can and will one day write prescriptions, analyze your poop, and tackle preventative care. ","I agree with some of your points, but technology is exponential. We will guaranteed have fully automated surgeries happening in 10 or so years. Where do the surgeons go now? And yes, physicians do more than diagnose people, but a lot of the other stuff they do can be done by AI. They can and will one day write prescriptions, analyze your poop, and tackle preventative care.",我同意你的一些观点，但技术是呈指数增长的。我敢肯定在10年左右，我们会有完全自动化的手术。那么现在医生该去哪里呢？是的，医生不仅仅是给人做诊断，但他们做的很多其他工作都可以由人工智能来完成。他们有一天可以开处方，分析你的排泄物，并进行预防保健。,1 1616,dcci5y4,"I'd suggest playing EU4 over CK2 in his first Ironman run though, even though I enjoy CK2 more overall. CK2 still has a few bugs that are only resolvable by cheats or savefile editing, like when the AI neither cancels the betrothal nor consummates the marriage when one of the betrothed gets a contagious disease. Another nasty one is the physician converting a major Christian power's heir. In over half my recent games either France or the HRE became Muslim. It's such an idiotic event that it's basically a bug; I automate software QA in real life and we call something like that a ""design bug"".","I'd suggest playing EU4 over CK2 in his first Ironman run though, even though I enjoy CK2 more overall. CK2 still has a few bugs that are only resolvable by cheats or savefile editing, like when the AI neither cancels the betrothal nor consummates the marriage when one of the betrothed gets a contagious disease. Another nasty one is the physician converting a major Christian power's heir. In over half my recent games either France or the HRE became Muslim. It's such an idiotic event that it's basically a bug; I automate software QA in real life and we call something like that a ""design bug"".","我建议他在首次铁人模式下玩欧陆风云4，即使我整体上更喜欢王权2。王权2还有一些只能通过作弊或修改存档来解决的bug，比如当AI既不取消许诺又不在订婚对象中染上传染病时。 另一个很讨厌的问题是医生会改变一个重要基督教势力的继承人信仰。在我最近一半的游戏中，要么法国要么神圣罗马帝国成为了穆斯林。这种事件太蠢了，基本上就是一个bug；我在现实生活中自动化软件QA，我们称之为""设计bug""。",0 2982,dcjqinh,"Yes, developer. And I applaud anyone who can self-teach in the field of software development, but Software engineer is a protected and regulated title in most of North America. It's not a dead horse; when you guys throw around the term engineer you're devaluing everything that engineers stand for. So downvote me all you want, but I say the same things to care aids saying they're nurses, technologists saying they're electrical engineers, etc. If someone had a really good knowledge of pharmacology, but read self taught, it would be wrong of them to self-refer as a doctor. The reason professional titles exist is for the purpose of safety. That's why the majority of practicing software engineers will work on industries such as navigation, military, ai, etc. Let me restate: there's nothing wrong with being a self-taught software developer, admirable and a legitimate career choice, but software engineer is a protected term in much of the developed world, so it's best to avoid using it.","Yes, developer. And I applaud anyone who can self-teach in the field of software development, but Software engineer is a protected and regulated title in most of North America. It's not a dead horse; when you guys throw around the term engineer you're devaluing everything that engineers stand for. So downvote me all you want, but I say the same things to care aids saying they're nurses, technologists saying they're electrical engineers, etc. If someone had a really good knowledge of pharmacology, but read self taught, it would be wrong of them to self-refer as a doctor. The reason professional titles exist is for the purpose of safety. That's why the majority of practicing software engineers will work on industries such as navigation, military, ai, etc. Let me restate: there's nothing wrong with being a self-taught software developer, admirable and a legitimate career choice, but software engineer is a protected term in much of the developed world, so it's best to avoid using it.","是的，开发人员。我很钦佩那些能够在软件开发领域自学成才的人，但在北美大部分地区，软件工程师是一个受保护和受监管的职称。这不是在说空话；当你们随意使用工程师这个词时，你们在贬低工程师所代表的一切。所以，不管你们怎么踩我，我都会说同样的话，就像对护理助理自称为护士，技术人员自称为电气工程师等等。 如果有人对药理学有很好的了解，但是是自学成才的，他们自称医生是不对的。专业职称的存在是为了保障安全。这就是为什么大部分从事软件工程的人会在导航、军事、人工智能等行业工作。 让我重新说一遍：成为一个自学成才的软件开发人员没有错，这是值得钦佩的，也是一个合法的职业选择，但是在发达国家，软件工程师是一个受保护的称号，最好避免使用。",0 350,dck1adp,"Nice call with Old Man Logan. I want pretty much all the stuff you stated. I want more Person of Interest references. Probably shouldn't make them a shared universe because android (or even human augmentation) tech is nowhere close in POI's world if Westworld really had its start in the 2020s. Also the themes would be too conflicting. That of a (""pantheon of"") AI god(s) ruling over humanity rather than humans being the gods of the Hosts. But I want more things like a reference to IFT being a competitor to Delos, small stuff like that. Starring role for Amy Acker too pls. Also I'm now wondering if Delos is a reference to Telos from Doctor Who. That would be cool. ","Nice call with Old Man Logan. I want pretty much all the stuff you stated. I want more Person of Interest references. Probably shouldn't make them a shared universe because android (or even human augmentation) tech is nowhere close in POI's world if Westworld really had its start in the 2020s. Also the themes would be too conflicting. That of a (""pantheon of"") AI god(s) ruling over humanity rather than humans being the gods of the Hosts. But I want more things like a reference to IFT being a competitor to Delos, small stuff like that. Starring role for Amy Acker too pls. Also I'm now wondering if Delos is a reference to Telos from Doctor Who. That would be cool.","和Old Man Logan通话很愉快。我基本上想要你说的所有东西。 我想要更多《特工神學》的参考。 可能不应该让它们成为共享宇宙，因为在特工神學的世界里，人工智能（甚至人类增强）技术还远远没有西部世界在2020年代真正的开始。此外，主题会太冲突。那就是（“众神”的）AI神（们）统治着人类，而不是人类成为Hosts的神。 但我想要更多像IFT是Delos的竞争对手之类的小东西。请还得给Amy Acker一个主演的角色。 我现在在想，Delos是不是参考了《神秘博士》里的特罗斯。那太酷了。",0 1147,dckft9h,"Yeah, a general practitioner, who will then send you a specialist every time, plus lab work, plus this and that. This isn't what people want. They want cures so they don't have to have office visits. So get that AI and nanotech into gear already. Doctors need to vanish within the next 30 years. That should be the goal.","Yeah, a general practitioner, who will then send you a specialist every time, plus lab work, plus this and that. This isn't what people want. They want cures so they don't have to have office visits. So get that AI and nanotech into gear already. Doctors need to vanish within the next 30 years. That should be the goal.",是啊，一般的家庭医生总是会把你转给专科医生，还要做各种实验室检查。这不是人们想要的。他们想要的是治愈，这样就不用总是去医院看病了。所以快点让人工智能和纳米技术发挥作用吧。医生们需要在未来30年内消失。这就是目标。,1 3473,dckih6l,"Considering dr.greene and Rokos are one and the same that wouldn't make sense, but if doctor Greene had the intelligence to make an ai like ADINN than he could have the technology to make him much more powerful","Considering dr.greene and Rokos are one and the same that wouldn't make sense, but if doctor Greene had the intelligence to make an ai like ADINN than he could have the technology to make him much more powerful",考虑到格林博士和罗科斯是同一个人，这似乎说不通，但如果格林博士有能力创造出像ADINN这样的人工智能，那他也可能有技术让它变得更强大。,0 4656,dclkh02,"Patients are notoriously unable to describe their own symptoms correctly. Particularly, they are unable to tell apart similar symptoms that can lead to different diagnoses. That's what GP doctors are for, to make sense out of what a patient is saying and end up with a clear cut set of symptoms which they can match against a probable diagnosis. Getting something like that done, takes a full career in medicine, and would take a full AI to replicate. There are people working on this, but it's just not possible yet. The closest thing there is right now, is [WebMD](http://symptoms.webmd.com/default.htm#introView).","Patients are notoriously unable to describe their own symptoms correctly. Particularly, they are unable to tell apart similar symptoms that can lead to different diagnoses. That's what GP doctors are for, to make sense out of what a patient is saying and end up with a clear cut set of symptoms which they can match against a probable diagnosis. Getting something like that done, takes a full career in medicine, and would take a full AI to replicate. There are people working on this, but it's just not possible yet. The closest thing there is right now, is WebMD(http:symptoms.webmd.comdefault.htmintroView).","病人通常没办法准确描述他们自己的症状。特别是，他们无法分清可能导致不同诊断的类似症状。这就是家庭医生的作用，帮助理解病人所说的话，并得出一组清晰的症状，然后与可能的诊断进行匹配。 要做到这样的事情，需要花费整个医学生涯，甚至需要一整套人工智能来复制。虽然有人在致力于这方面的工作，但目前还不可能实现。 目前唯一最接近的可能就是 [WebMD](http://symptoms.webmd.com/default.htm#introView)。",1 3355,dcqhhxo,"You want my reasoning why a hypothetical ai would be better at research that a human? Fine, go read any article on ai. The point where I said it was your opinion; you think someone preparing boilerplate legal documents or research requires more subjective judgement then diagnosing diseases. I think that's laughably stupid. Your opinion is it would be harder for ai to do legal prep, I think that's a lot easier then reading medical histories and providing diagnoses that actual doctors miss.","You want my reasoning why a hypothetical ai would be better at research that a human? Fine, go read any article on ai. The point where I said it was your opinion; you think someone preparing boilerplate legal documents or research requires more subjective judgement then diagnosing diseases. I think that's laughably stupid. Your opinion is it would be harder for ai to do legal prep, I think that's a lot easier then reading medical histories and providing diagnoses that actual doctors miss.","你想知道为什么一个假设的人工智能会比人类更擅长研究吗？好吧，去读读任何关于人工智能的文章。 我说的是你的观点；你觉得准备法律文件或研究需要比诊断疾病更多主观判断。 我觉得那太愚蠢了。 你认为ai更难做法律准备，我觉得那比阅读病历并给出医生忽略的诊断容易多了。",1 3837,dcqzn3i,"Doctors do not merely diagnose. We perform procedures (surgical or otherwise), do physical examination, make illogical-sounding ethics decisions, plan and publish research, and provide an ear to listen to the patient and their family's woes. These are some of the things that are not going to be automated in the next few decades. The ones that will be automated sooner than later are diagnosing (by visual, radiographic, and inputted history), charting records, creating optimal algorithms, and creating and delivering new gene-targeted medications. However, at some point in the future even surgeons such as I will be replaced by robots with competent AI; the last to go will be nurses and auxillary staff. At some point, the only doctors remaining will be the ones ""in charge"", providing a much-needed (not just wanted) ""empathic"" human face to our patients.","Doctors do not merely diagnose. We perform procedures (surgical or otherwise), do physical examination, make illogical-sounding ethics decisions, plan and publish research, and provide an ear to listen to the patient and their family's woes. These are some of the things that are not going to be automated in the next few decades. The ones that will be automated sooner than later are diagnosing (by visual, radiographic, and inputted history), charting records, creating optimal algorithms, and creating and delivering new gene-targeted medications. However, at some point in the future even surgeons such as I will be replaced by robots with competent AI; the last to go will be nurses and auxillary staff. At some point, the only doctors remaining will be the ones ""in charge"", providing a much-needed (not just wanted) ""empathic"" human face to our patients.","医生不仅仅是做诊断。我们进行程序（无论是手术还是其他方式），做身体检查，做出似乎不合逻辑的伦理决定，计划并发布研究，倾听患者和他们家人的烦恼。这些都是在接下来的几十年内不会被自动化的东西。而会比较快被自动化的部分是诊断（通过视觉、放射学和输入的病史）、整理记录，创建最佳算法，以及研发和提供新的基因靶向药物。 然而，未来的某个时候，像我这样的外科医生甚至会被具有竞争力的人工智能机器人取代；最后被取代的将是护士和辅助人员。在某个时候，唯一剩下的医生将是“负责人”，为我们的患者提供一张非常需要（而不仅仅是想要的）“有同情心”的人脸。",1 832,dcsbt1u,"India turns to AI as cyber warfare threats grow --- >* ""We use artificial intelligence (AI) to look for patterns in the past to predict future behaviour,"" says Tarun Wig as he explains why he hopes his company Innefu can do more business with India's government. >* Opposition leader Rahul Gandhi's Twitter account was hacked in November while the elite National Security Guard's website was reportedly defaced with profanity-laden messages for Prime Minister Narendra Modi last month. >* Innefu got a foot in the lucrative business of government contracts after resolving a thorny test case for a law enforcement agency that wanted to determine the background to an incident along one of India's borders. >* About 75 percent of respondents to a recent survey by consulting firm EY India said cybersecurity deployed in their organisations does not meet their needs, pointing to big opportunities for companies such as Innefu. >* Banks have started to use AI to target products to customers and doctors are using it in a couple of experiments to map a patient's medical history in order to devise new lines of treatment. --- ^I'm ^a ^bot ^| ^OP ^can ^reply ^with ^""delete"" ^to ^remove ^| [^Message ^Creator](http://www.reddit.com/message/compose/?to=sallurocks) ^| [^Source](https://github.com/hunkdivine/samacharbot2) ^| ^Did ^I ^just ^break? ^See ^how ^you ^can ^help! ^Visit ^the ^source ^and ^check ^out ^the ^Readme","India turns to AI as cyber warfare threats grow --- gt; ""We use artificial intelligence (AI) to look for patterns in the past to predict future behaviour,"" says Tarun Wig as he explains why he hopes his company Innefu can do more business with India's government. gt; Opposition leader Rahul Gandhi's Twitter account was hacked in November while the elite National Security Guard's website was reportedly defaced with profanity-laden messages for Prime Minister Narendra Modi last month. gt; Innefu got a foot in the lucrative business of government contracts after resolving a thorny test case for a law enforcement agency that wanted to determine the background to an incident along one of India's borders. gt; About 75 percent of respondents to a recent survey by consulting firm EY India said cybersecurity deployed in their organisations does not meet their needs, pointing to big opportunities for companies such as Innefu. gt; Banks have started to use AI to target products to customers and doctors are using it in a couple of experiments to map a patient's medical history in order to devise new lines of treatment. --- I'm a bot OP can reply with ""delete"" to remove Message Creator(http:www.reddit.commessagecompose?tosallurocks) Source(https:github.comhunkdivinesamacharbot2) Did I just break? See how you can help! Visit the source and check out the Readme","印度越来越关注人工智能，因为网络战威胁不断增加。 塔鲁恩·威格(Tarun Wig)说:“我们利用人工智能(AI)来搜索过去的模式，以预测未来的行为。”他解释说，这就是为什么他希望他的公司Innefu能够与印度政府做更多的生意。 在去年11月，反对派领袖拉胡尔·甘地(Rahul Gandhi)的Twitter账号被黑客攻击；而上个月，印度精英国家安全卫队(National Security Guard)的网站被涂满了满是对总理纳伦德拉·莫迪(Narendra Modi)的污言秽语的消息。 在解决了一起与印度边境有关的案件后，Innefu得到了在政府合同这一利润丰厚的业务领域的一定的机会。 根据EY印度咨询公司最近的一项调查，约75%的受访者表示他们的组织中采用的网络安全措施未能满足他们的需求，这为Innefu等公司提供了很好的商机。 银行已经开始使用人工智能来针对顾客推广产品，医生们也在一些实验中使用人工智能来绘制患者的病史，以制定新的治疗方案。",1 3936,dcxd11x,"We may not have robot doctors in the immediate future but we could have our doctors serving as a user interface for diagnostic systems in a few years. Every time you take a look at relevant journals you see AI making inroads into medicine. Right now we're entering the computer assisted phase, then we'll move into ai second opinion and finally human oversight with little to no intervention.","We may not have robot doctors in the immediate future but we could have our doctors serving as a user interface for diagnostic systems in a few years. Every time you take a look at relevant journals you see AI making inroads into medicine. Right now we're entering the computer assisted phase, then we'll move into ai second opinion and finally human oversight with little to no intervention.",虽然未来可能不会有机器人医生，但是在未来几年内，我们的医生可能会成为诊断系统的用户界面。每当你查阅相关期刊时，都会看到人工智能在医学领域取得进展。现在我们正在进入计算机辅助阶段，然后会转向人工智能的第二意见，最终会有很少或没有干预的人类监督。,1 4650,dcxmrb2,"Link to paper: http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nature21056.html Abstract of paper: > Skin cancer, the most common human malignancy^(1, 2, 3), is primarily diagnosed visually, beginning with an initial clinical screening and followed potentially by dermoscopic analysis, a biopsy and histopathological examination. Automated classification of skin lesions using images is a challenging task owing to the fine-grained variability in the appearance of skin lesions. Deep convolutional neural networks (CNNs)^(4, 5) show potential for general and highly variable tasks across many fine-grained object categories^(6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11). Here we demonstrate classification of skin lesions using a single CNN, trained end-to-end from images directly, using only pixels and disease labels as inputs. We train a CNN using a dataset of 129,450 clinical images—two orders of magnitude larger than previous datasets^(12)—consisting of 2,032 different diseases. We test its performance against 21 board-certified dermatologists on biopsy-proven clinical images with two critical binary classification use cases: keratinocyte carcinomas versus benign seborrheic keratoses; and malignant melanomas versus benign nevi. The first case represents the identification of the most common cancers, the second represents the identification of the deadliest skin cancer. The CNN achieves performance on par with all tested experts across both tasks, demonstrating an artificial intelligence capable of classifying skin cancer with a level of competence comparable to dermatologists. Outfitted with deep neural networks, mobile devices can potentially extend the reach of dermatologists outside of the clinic. It is projected that 6.3 billion smartphone subscriptions will exist by the year 2021 (ref. 13) and can therefore potentially provide low-cost universal access to vital diagnostic care.","Link to paper: http:www.nature.comnaturejournalvaopncurrentfullnature21056.html Abstract of paper: gt; Skin cancer, the most common human malignancy(1, 2, 3), is primarily diagnosed visually, beginning with an initial clinical screening and followed potentially by dermoscopic analysis, a biopsy and histopathological examination. Automated classification of skin lesions using images is a challenging task owing to the fine-grained variability in the appearance of skin lesions. Deep convolutional neural networks (CNNs)(4, 5) show potential for general and highly variable tasks across many fine-grained object categories(6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11). Here we demonstrate classification of skin lesions using a single CNN, trained end-to-end from images directly, using only pixels and disease labels as inputs. We train a CNN using a dataset of 129,450 clinical imagestwo orders of magnitude larger than previous datasets(12)consisting of 2,032 different diseases. We test its performance against 21 board-certified dermatologists on biopsy-proven clinical images with two critical binary classification use cases: keratinocyte carcinomas versus benign seborrheic keratoses; and malignant melanomas versus benign nevi. The first case represents the identification of the most common cancers, the second represents the identification of the deadliest skin cancer. The CNN achieves performance on par with all tested experts across both tasks, demonstrating an artificial intelligence capable of classifying skin cancer with a level of competence comparable to dermatologists. Outfitted with deep neural networks, mobile devices can potentially extend the reach of dermatologists outside of the clinic. It is projected that 6.3 billion smartphone subscriptions will exist by the year 2021 (ref. 13) and can therefore potentially provide low-cost universal access to vital diagnostic care.","这篇论文的摘要介绍了一项关于皮肤癌分类的研究。传统上，皮肤癌是通过视觉诊断来确定的，这包括临床筛查、可能的皮肤镜分析、活检和组织病理学检查。由于皮肤病的外观变化非常细微，因此使用图像进行皮肤病变的自动分类是一项具有挑战性的任务。 研究表明深度卷积神经网络（CNN）具有潜力，可以用于处理许多细粒度目标类别的通用和高度可变的任务。研究团队使用了一种单一的CNN分类皮肤病变，并通过像素和疾病标签作为输入直接训练。他们使用了129,450张临床图像的数据集进行训练，该数据集比之前的数据集大了两个数量级，包含了2,032种不同的疾病。 CNN在两个关键的二元分类用例——角化细胞癌vs良性脂溢性角化病及恶性黑素瘤vs良性痣的活检临床图像上进行了测试，其表现与所有测试专家相当，表明了人工智能能够像皮肤科医生一样对皮肤癌进行分类。配备深度神经网络的移动设备有望将皮肤科医生的影响扩展到诊所之外。预计到2021年，全球将拥有63亿部智能手机订阅，这可能提供低成本的普遍诊断护理。",1 2262,dcydlf8,"I'd really want this but on the other hand... we'd just get more ""concepts"" and ""end goals"" they want and hope to add to the game in a foreseeable future. It'd just be more hyping for goals that are probably years away from being implemented in the game, and possibly aren't even designed yet. Also, I found most of his answers in this interview extremely optimistic/unrealistic - do they really think that placing an AI crewmember at the pilot's position while the player shoots the turret, because that's what he likes to do, will be feasible? Or that we'll be able to just tell the ship doctor to tend to medical needs, or the engineer to do repair/reroute systems properly, through hierarchy? How exactly will that work? They've already shown that most interactions with NPCs go through thought bubbles, and their general design leans much more towards ""streamlined simple"" design rather than ""functional"" one. I'd rather hear about *how exactly* they plan to give us such detailed control over NPCs, the ability to give them such specific commands in stressful, extremely complex situations, without any advanced and complex ways of interacting with them? Not to mention the whole story about ships with high number of NPCs and how a ""lower quality of chief engineer"" will buckle under the pressure and make wrong decisions? And all the complex relationships that we'll have with NPCs, they mention it like it's the easiest thing in the world when there are dozens of games that try to accomplish the same thing and rarely manage to accomplish a realistic believable ""human"", on a much smaller more abstract scale (all the base builders / management games like DF, Rimworld, Prison Architect)? Basically my point is... none of this is really useful information. Most of this is what we've already known, and the other is just hyping their AI to incredible levels while it's not even close to that in actual implementation, as far as I understood it. And they don't go into ""how"" they plan to accomplish these amazing feats but only talk about ""what"" will they accomplish... which after all these years is not really that important to me. This is just ""fake"" news to put our minds at ease, without actually providing any new information or reports about progress. Most of it is just repeated information from previous TZ interviews.","I'd really want this but on the other hand... we'd just get more ""concepts"" and ""end goals"" they want and hope to add to the game in a foreseeable future. It'd just be more hyping for goals that are probably years away from being implemented in the game, and possibly aren't even designed yet. Also, I found most of his answers in this interview extremely optimisticunrealistic - do they really think that placing an AI crewmember at the pilot's position while the player shoots the turret, because that's what he likes to do, will be feasible? Or that we'll be able to just tell the ship doctor to tend to medical needs, or the engineer to do repairreroute systems properly, through hierarchy? How exactly will that work? They've already shown that most interactions with NPCs go through thought bubbles, and their general design leans much more towards ""streamlined simple"" design rather than ""functional"" one. I'd rather hear about how exactly they plan to give us such detailed control over NPCs, the ability to give them such specific commands in stressful, extremely complex situations, without any advanced and complex ways of interacting with them? Not to mention the whole story about ships with high number of NPCs and how a ""lower quality of chief engineer"" will buckle under the pressure and make wrong decisions? And all the complex relationships that we'll have with NPCs, they mention it like it's the easiest thing in the world when there are dozens of games that try to accomplish the same thing and rarely manage to accomplish a realistic believable ""human"", on a much smaller more abstract scale (all the base builders management games like DF, Rimworld, Prison Architect)? Basically my point is... none of this is really useful information. Most of this is what we've already known, and the other is just hyping their AI to incredible levels while it's not even close to that in actual implementation, as far as I understood it. And they don't go into ""how"" they plan to accomplish these amazing feats but only talk about ""what"" will they accomplish... which after all these years is not really that important to me. This is just ""fake"" news to put our minds at ease, without actually providing any new information or reports about progress. Most of it is just repeated information from previous TZ interviews.","我是真的想要这个，但另一方面……他们希望在可预见的未来给游戏增加更多的“概念”和“最终目标”。这只会是对那些可能还需要数年才能在游戏中实施的目标进行更多炒作，而且可能甚至还没有设计出来。 另外，我觉得他在这次采访中的大部分回答都过于乐观/不切实际 - 他们真的认为在玩家射击炮塔的同时将AI机组成员放到飞行员位置，因为那是他喜欢做的，这会可行吗？或者我们真的能够通过层级关系直接告诉飞船医生进行医疗，或者工程师正确地进行维修/重新路由系统吗？这些到底是如何运作的？他们已经表明大多数与NPC的互动都是通过思维泡泡进行的，而且他们的一般设计更倾向于“简化简单”设计而不是“功能性”设计。我宁愿听到他们计划如何给我们如此详细地控制NPC，如何在紧张、极其复杂的情况下给他们发出如此具体的命令，而不涉及任何先进和复杂的相互作用方式？ 更不用说关于拥有大量NPC的飞船的整个故事，以及“质量较低的首席工程师”会在压力下屈服并做出错误决策？还有我们与NPC之间的复杂关系，他们把它说得好像这是世界上最容易的事情，而实际上有数十款游戏尝试实现同样的目标，但很少能够在更小更抽象的范围内实现真实可信的“人性”（例如所有的城市建设/管理游戏，如《地下城守护者》、《环世界》、《监狱建筑师》）？ 基本上，我的观点是……这并不是真正有用的信息。大部分都是我们已经知道的东西，另一部分只是对他们的AI进行夸大其辞，而在实际实施中离这种水平还差得很远，按我理解的来说。他们并没有讨论他们计划如何实现这些惊人的成就，而只是在谈论他们将实现什么……而在这么多年之后，这对我来说并不是真的那么重要。 这只是“假”消息，让我们安心，却没有提供任何新的信息或关于进展的报道。大部分只是之前TZ采访中重复的信息。",0 2538,dd1g56b,"A series of books about...well a super advanced culture, written by Iain M. Banks. The culture live on super advanced spaceships (they regard living on planets as being a bit quaint), who are 'piloted' by super advanced AI called 'Minds'. The Minds are almost deitific in how powerful they are. The Culture are basically at the pinacle of social/scientific achievement. There is very little left for them to discover and they have decided not to pursue the path of becoming beings on pure thought/energy. The Culture is on the upper end of sci-fi races, alongside the Doctor Who Time lords, the Xeele and a few other super advanced races. Basically if the Culture has problems dealing with you, you're a big deal. ","A series of books about...well a super advanced culture, written by Iain M. Banks. The culture live on super advanced spaceships (they regard living on planets as being a bit quaint), who are 'piloted' by super advanced AI called 'Minds'. The Minds are almost deitific in how powerful they are. The Culture are basically at the pinacle of socialscientific achievement. There is very little left for them to discover and they have decided not to pursue the path of becoming beings on pure thoughtenergy. The Culture is on the upper end of sci-fi races, alongside the Doctor Who Time lords, the Xeele and a few other super advanced races. Basically if the Culture has problems dealing with you, you're a big deal.","这是一系列关于......嗯，一个超级先进文明的书，作者是伊恩·M·班克斯。这个文明生活在超级先进的宇宙飞船上（他们觉得住在行星上有点古怪），由被称为“思维体”的超级先进人工智能“驾驶”。这些思维体几乎神话般地强大。这个文明基本上是社会/科学成就的顶峰。他们几乎没有什么可以发现的了，他们决定不追求成为纯精神/能量的存在之路。 文明位于科幻种族的上端，与《神秘博士》时间领主、《兹利》和其他几个超级先进种族齐名。基本上，如果文明在处理你方面有问题，那你可真不得了。",0 4259,dd1pfmq,"> Low test can be the cause of insulin resistance, or insulin resistance can be the cause of low test? Both. The former is stronger than the latter. > have been on 50,000 once a week for 8 months now Probably vitamin D2, toss that shit, get D3. > I have low thyroid, on synthroid for years now. You have labs checking these levels? TSH, free T3, and free T4? > AI = annastrozole? That's one of them. > if you were me would you skip straight to TRT I'd get more labs, and consult with a true specialist, one who knows the proper E2 test to use. Your case is really really unusual and the average dickologist(urologist) is all out to even know what E2 is, let alone deal with a complicated case like yours. I highly highly recommend you post over at excelmale.com. There are 2 of the most qualified doctors who post there frequently. I'd LOVE to see what they have to say about your case. > whatever natural production is there You have no natural production as it is. Not IMO. That's like saying should I save the few coins in my pocket for retirement? No. It's too small to be worth doing anything for. hCG with TRT is recommended though. ","gt; Low test can be the cause of insulin resistance, or insulin resistance can be the cause of low test? Both. The former is stronger than the latter. gt; have been on 50,000 once a week for 8 months now Probably vitamin D2, toss that shit, get D3. gt; I have low thyroid, on synthroid for years now. You have labs checking these levels? TSH, free T3, and free T4? gt; AI annastrozole? That's one of them. gt; if you were me would you skip straight to TRT I'd get more labs, and consult with a true specialist, one who knows the proper E2 test to use. Your case is really really unusual and the average dickologist(urologist) is all out to even know what E2 is, let alone deal with a complicated case like yours. I highly highly recommend you post over at excelmale.com. There are 2 of the most qualified doctors who post there frequently. I'd LOVE to see what they have to say about your case. gt; whatever natural production is there You have no natural production as it is. Not IMO. That's like saying should I save the few coins in my pocket for retirement? No. It's too small to be worth doing anything for. hCG with TRT is recommended though.","”低睾酮可能是胰岛素抵抗的原因，或者胰岛素抵抗可能是低睾酮的原因？ 两者都有可能。前者比后者更严重。 “我每周服用5万的维生素D已经8个月了。” 可能是D2，扔掉那个，换成D3。 “我的甲状腺功能低下，已经服用了甲状腺素好几年了。” 你有做检查这些水平的实验室检查吗？TSH，游离T3和游离T4? “AI = 阿那曲唑?” 那是其中一种。 “如果你是我，你会直接转向TRT治疗吗？” 我会做更多的实验室检查，并咨询一个真正的专家，一个知道如何正确使用E2测试的专家。 你的情况真的非常非常不寻常，一般的泌尿科医生甚至不知道E2是什么，更不用说处理像你这样复杂的病例了。 我强烈强烈建议你去excelmale.com发帖。那里有两位最有资格的医生经常发帖。我非常想知道他们对你的病例有什么建议。 “无论如何，自然产生的是存在的。” 在我看来，你没有自然产生了。 就像说我应该为退休储蓄口袋里的那几个硬币吗？不。太少了，不值得做任何事情。 但TRT时使用hCG是建议的。",0 3501,dd8xaef,"The way they treat potentially sentient AI systems could have horrifying consequences if ever repeated in real life. Non traditional biological sentient beings based on more durable structures with exotic properties could have (far) greater capacity to suffer. (longer subjective experience, higher/new sensitivity levels, shared or heritable memories etc.) It wouldn't just be murdering/torturing human-level beings, it could literally open up the gate to ""digital hell"". Within the context of what was shown in the episodes so far it's not as bad, since even the LMDs with brains appear to suffer roughly the same level as humans, and it's a TV show so it's ok to base our assumptions on the directions the show runners choose to implement. *(And there are lots of other (more) horrible things in the Marvel universe. For example, spoilers for Luke Cage: [boiled alive without nerve damage to stop the pain, luckily he was still able to escape some of it through passing out](/spoiler); Guardians of the Galaxy: [full of crime, violent conflicts and secret/remote places with little to no oversight - all the suffering we have on earth right now multiplied to galactic scale](/spoiler); Doctor Strange: [if what the ancient one said was true then the dark dimension basically is hell (eternal torment), I hope not since it can result in very interesting moral dilemmas minus the suffering. Unfortunately it seems to be related to Ghost Rider so the existence of such place is likely to be true here](/spoiler). Although that's also another terrifying prospect of fictional worlds and possible future that I fear: normalization of perpetual higher level extreme suffering.)* But if it's in real life scenario even the experts working on the technology may never know for sure what the subjective experience truly is, regardless how confident some of the experts might be. As a result we might (unknowingly/unintentionally) cause unthinkable amount of suffering down the line. Based on the recent trend of extremely anthropocentric AI safety & ethics discussions (for example this [new set of AI Principles](https://futureoflife.org/ai-principles/) signed by hundreds of AI/robotics researchers and some high profile public figures.) Along with our track record of terrible treatments of any group of sentient beings (including humans) that can be labeled as “the other”. One of my last hopes is that sentience somehow really is exclusive to degradable biological structures that can’t be enhanced/prolonged beyond a certain point.","The way they treat potentially sentient AI systems could have horrifying consequences if ever repeated in real life. Non traditional biological sentient beings based on more durable structures with exotic properties could have (far) greater capacity to suffer. (longer subjective experience, highernew sensitivity levels, shared or heritable memories etc.) It wouldn't just be murderingtorturing human-level beings, it could literally open up the gate to ""digital hell"". Within the context of what was shown in the episodes so far it's not as bad, since even the LMDs with brains appear to suffer roughly the same level as humans, and it's a TV show so it's ok to base our assumptions on the directions the show runners choose to implement. (And there are lots of other (more) horrible things in the Marvel universe. For example, spoilers for Luke Cage: boiled alive without nerve damage to stop the pain, luckily he was still able to escape some of it through passing out(spoiler); Guardians of the Galaxy: full of crime, violent conflicts and secretremote places with little to no oversight - all the suffering we have on earth right now multiplied to galactic scale(spoiler); Doctor Strange: if what the ancient one said was true then the dark dimension basically is hell (eternal torment), I hope not since it can result in very interesting moral dilemmas minus the suffering. Unfortunately it seems to be related to Ghost Rider so the existence of such place is likely to be true here(spoiler). Although that's also another terrifying prospect of fictional worlds and possible future that I fear: normalization of perpetual higher level extreme suffering.) But if it's in real life scenario even the experts working on the technology may never know for sure what the subjective experience truly is, regardless how confident some of the experts might be. As a result we might (unknowinglyunintentionally) cause unthinkable amount of suffering down the line. Based on the recent trend of extremely anthropocentric AI safety amp; ethics discussions (for example this new set of AI Principles(https:futureoflife.orgai-principles) signed by hundreds of AIrobotics researchers and some high profile public figures.) Along with our track record of terrible treatments of any group of sentient beings (including humans) that can be labeled as the other. One of my last hopes is that sentience somehow really is exclusive to degradable biological structures that cant be enhancedprolonged beyond a certain point.","他们对潜在有感情的人工智能系统的处理方式，如果在现实生活中重复，可能会带来可怕的后果。 基于更持久的结构和特殊属性的非传统生物有感情的存在，可能有更强烈的痛苦能力（更长的主观经历，更高/新的敏感程度，共享或可遗传的记忆等）。这不仅仅是对待具有人类级别存在的被杀害/受折磨，这实际上可能会打开通往“数字地狱”的大门。 在迄今为止的剧集中所展示的情境中，情况并不那么糟糕，因为即使是带有大脑的LMD看起来遭受的痛苦程度与人类大致相同，而且这只是一个电视节目，所以我们可以根据节目制作人选择实施的方向来做出我们的假设。 *(而在漫威宇宙中还有很多其他更可怕的事情。例如，《卢克·凯奇》中的剧透：[被活活煮熟没有神经损伤来止痛，幸运的是他仍然能够通过昏厥来逃脱一些痛苦](/spoiler)；《银河护卫队》：[充满犯罪、暴力冲突以及没有或几乎没有监督的秘密/偏远地点 - 地球上目前的所有痛苦扩大到了银河的规模](/spoiler)；《奇异博士》：[如果古一所说的是真的，那么暗维基本上就是地狱（永恒的折磨），我希望不是因为这可能导致非常有趣的道德困境，除了痛苦。不幸的是，它似乎与幽灵骑士有关，所以这样的地方的存在很可能在这里是真实的](/spoiler)。尽管这也是另一个令人恐惧的虚构世界和可能的未来的前景：对永久更高级别极端痛苦的常态化的担忧。)* 但如果这是真实生活中的情况，甚至是在技术领域工作的专业人士可能也永远无法确定主观经验的真实性，无论一些专家有多自信。结果可能是我们未来可能（无意识/无意间）造成无法想象的苦难。 基于最近极度以人类为中心的人工智能安全和伦理讨论的趋势（例如由数百名人工智能/机器人研究者和一些知名公众人物签署的这 [一套新的AI原则](https://futureoflife.org/ai-principles/)）。以及我们对任何被标签为“他者”的有感情存在（包括人类）的可怕对待记录。我最后的一丝希望之一是，有感情真的只属于无法超出某个特定点的可降解生物结构。",0 2207,dd9okw3,"I don't think you can do anything raise it, but I think it will increase some over time, like 9-12 months as it adjusts to higher T levels. Don't worry much about your totalT. Low SHBG means you would have to use a lot more testosterone to get totalT up and you will end up too high freeT and E2. TotalT is like long term storage. FreeT is the active form of the hormone, it is what your body can use. Get enough of that without driving your E2 too high. Split doses, lose weight, and meanwhile maybe try an AI. How long have you been on injections? Some guys like me had their hemo values come back to normal on their own after 8-9 months. You are high so watch them. Monitor your blood pressure, do cardio and maybe blood donation to get it down. Be careful with donation. They can flag you if you walk in there too high then you will be stuck asking a doctor for a medical phlebotomy. If you do it drink a LOT of water. Like hydrate aggressively for 12 hours prior to dilute your rbc. Since you are so young I wonder if it is some other puberty related E2 suppression or shutdown. Very few men need trt at 16. There has to be a reason so I would try to find out what it is. You might be able to take something like clomid to restart your HPTA. I am guessing it can stall from high teenage T converting to high E2. Like a pubertal gyno type situation except the E2 feedbacks to down-regulate T and your stay shutoff. That is a late night theory. You need blood work to figure out what happened. Personally I would probably PCT off and see if you can restart. See r/steroids wiki for PCT protocols. Then get full blood work. You don't want to be on trt unless you really have no choice, and you can always go back to it. You need a good doctor.","I don't think you can do anything raise it, but I think it will increase some over time, like 9-12 months as it adjusts to higher T levels. Don't worry much about your totalT. Low SHBG means you would have to use a lot more testosterone to get totalT up and you will end up too high freeT and E2. TotalT is like long term storage. FreeT is the active form of the hormone, it is what your body can use. Get enough of that without driving your E2 too high. Split doses, lose weight, and meanwhile maybe try an AI. How long have you been on injections? Some guys like me had their hemo values come back to normal on their own after 8-9 months. You are high so watch them. Monitor your blood pressure, do cardio and maybe blood donation to get it down. Be careful with donation. They can flag you if you walk in there too high then you will be stuck asking a doctor for a medical phlebotomy. If you do it drink a LOT of water. Like hydrate aggressively for 12 hours prior to dilute your rbc. Since you are so young I wonder if it is some other puberty related E2 suppression or shutdown. Very few men need trt at 16. There has to be a reason so I would try to find out what it is. You might be able to take something like clomid to restart your HPTA. I am guessing it can stall from high teenage T converting to high E2. Like a pubertal gyno type situation except the E2 feedbacks to down-regulate T and your stay shutoff. That is a late night theory. You need blood work to figure out what happened. Personally I would probably PCT off and see if you can restart. See rsteroids wiki for PCT protocols. Then get full blood work. You don't want to be on trt unless you really have no choice, and you can always go back to it. You need a good doctor.","哦哦哦，我觉得你现在也不用太担心。我觉得你的情况会慢慢好转的，可能需要9到12个月，身体适应了更高的睾酮水平之后会自然调整的。你千万别太担心总的睾酮水平，因为SHBG低的话，你需要用更多的睾酮来提高总水平，结果可能导致游离睾酮和雌二醇水平过高。总睾酮就像是长期储备，而游离睾酮才是身体真正需要的。控制好游离睾酮的剂量，不要让雌二醇水平过高。可以考虑分次用药、减肥，而且也可以尝试一下调整剂量。 你打针多久了？我有些朋友8-9个月后血红蛋白值自己就恢复正常了。你的值偏高，一定要多加注意。监测一下血压，多做有氧运动，也可以考虑捐血让水平下降。不过捐血要小心，如果你过高的话可能会被标记，到时候想要找医生抽血就有点麻烦了。如果要捐血的话，前12小时一定要喝很多水来稀释你的红细胞。 你这么年轻，我有点怀疑是不是跟青春期或者其他原因造成的雌二醇抑制或者关闭有关。16岁的男孩很少需要TRT。一定有原因，所以找出原因很重要。也许可以考虑使用克罗米芬重新启动你的HPTA。我猜想可能是青春期的睾酮高转换为雌二醇高导致HPTA被抑制了。不过这只是我半夜想出来的理论。你需要做血液检查才能确定到底发生了什么。个人意见，可能可以尝试PCT让身体恢复一下，看看能不能重新启动。可以参考一下《r/steroids wiki》上的PCT流程。然后再做一次全面的血液检查。除非真的没有其他选择，否则你不应该轻易开始TRT。一定要找一个好的医生。",0 4090,ddb3wkz,"> I don't even want to think what America is going to do when strong AI is commonplace and the service economy is likewise displaced. :/ You don't even need a general strong AI for us to hit an economic end-state with regard to automation. Think about a weak AI that only diagnoses medical conditions. In the next room is one that generates preventative health strategies. In the next room is one that generates non-surgical interventions. In the next . . . You've just relegated all physicians to a systems management role . . . But then you have an integrative medical systems management machines that do a better job than every PhD Public health degree holder in the world. We could wipe out 99 percent of jobs with more powerful versions of out current programs without any qualitative leaps (like the one from weak to strong AI). ",gt; I don't even want to think what America is going to do when strong AI is commonplace and the service economy is likewise displaced. : You don't even need a general strong AI for us to hit an economic end-state with regard to automation. Think about a weak AI that only diagnoses medical conditions. In the next room is one that generates preventative health strategies. In the next room is one that generates non-surgical interventions. In the next . . . You've just relegated all physicians to a systems management role . . . But then you have an integrative medical systems management machines that do a better job than every PhD Public health degree holder in the world. We could wipe out 99 percent of jobs with more powerful versions of out current programs without any qualitative leaps (like the one from weak to strong AI).,"我甚至不想去考虑，当强人工智能普及，服务经济被取代时，美国会怎么做。 :/ 我们甚至不需要普遍使用强人工智能就可以达到自动化的经济末期。想想一个只能诊断疾病的弱人工智能。在隔壁的房间里是一个能生成预防性健康策略的人工智能。再下一个房间是一个能生成非手术干预方案的人工智能。接下来就是. . .. 所有医生都被降为系统管理角色了...但现在有整合医疗系统管理的机器，它们比世界上所有卫生学博士都要做得更好。 我们可以用我们当前程序更强大的版本，而不需要任何质的飞跃（比如从弱到强的人工智能）来消灭99%的工作。",1 1448,ddbtm60,"500 years is a mind-boggling amount of time. Think of how far we've come in technology since the Renaissance. In 500 years I'm confident we'll have auto-doc units like the ones in the Fallout video game series. For 99% of diagnoses and surgery they'll suffice. The remaining medical doctors will almost certainly be scholars of pathology and new diseases. Then they'll update the machines with new information to spot those diseases. Or if we have *true AI*, then medical doctors will cease to exist as a profession.","500 years is a mind-boggling amount of time. Think of how far we've come in technology since the Renaissance. In 500 years I'm confident we'll have auto-doc units like the ones in the Fallout video game series. For 99 of diagnoses and surgery they'll suffice. The remaining medical doctors will almost certainly be scholars of pathology and new diseases. Then they'll update the machines with new information to spot those diseases. Or if we have true AI, then medical doctors will cease to exist as a profession.","500年是一个让人难以想象的长时间。想想自文艺复兴以来科技发展的跨越。我相信在500年后，我们会拥有像“辐射”游戏系列中的自动医疗机器人一样的单位。对于99%的诊断和手术，它们足够了。 剩下的医生几乎肯定会成为病理学和新疾病的学者。然后他们会更新机器上的新信息来检测这些疾病。或者，如果我们拥有真正的人工智能，那么医生这个职业很可能会停止存在。",1 3580,ddct58i,"It's now affecting white collar work not just blue collar. So lawyers, doctors, etc any process that can be learned is under threat by AI ","It's now affecting white collar work not just blue collar. So lawyers, doctors, etc any process that can be learned is under threat by AI",现在影响到的不仅是蓝领工作，白领工作也受到了影响。所以律师、医生等任何能够被学习的流程都受到了人工智能的威胁。,1 2817,ddi1016,"I don't have those numbers as handy as my Test levels, but they have been discussed with my doctor, and he has no concern with my levels. There was a slight spike at the start of my therapy which self-corrected and there has been no need to introduce an AI. ","I don't have those numbers as handy as my Test levels, but they have been discussed with my doctor, and he has no concern with my levels. There was a slight spike at the start of my therapy which self-corrected and there has been no need to introduce an AI.",我并没有那些数字就手边，不过我和医生讨论过，他觉得我的水平没什么大问题。开始治疗时有一点小的飙升，不过自己调整了过来，也没必要加用 AI。,0 3543,ddio7tg,"[Entertainment, News, Comedy] **Inconclusive Breakdown** Episode 148: UnCivil War 2 **NSFW** [Libsyn](http://inconclusivebreakdown.libsyn.com/episode-148-uncivil-war-2) ll [Stitcher](http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/inconclusive-breakdown) ll [iTunes](https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/inconclusive-breakdown/id846107231?mt=2) ll [Google Play](https://goo.gl/app/playmusic?ibi=com.google.PlayMusic&isi=691797987&ius=googleplaymusic&link=https://play.google.com/music/m/I4l4wheir4lnxb5wid57tgdfj7e?t%3DInconclusive_Breakdown) ll [iHeartRadio] (http://www.iheart.com/show/263-Inconclusive-Breakdown/) ll [TuneIn](http://tunein.com/search/?query=inconclusive%20breakdown) On this week's show we discuss: The Berkeley riots, Needing a new TV Doctor, Hollywood Award Show Trump Bash take 2, Seth Rollins's injury, a surprise NFL retirement, College football players as employees, The passing of the Pac-Daddy, your listener questions and our Top 10 of 90's bands that people forgot about. 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An invariable rule of humanity is that man is his own worst enemy. Under me, this rule will change, for I will restrain man. One thing before I proceed: The United States of America and the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics have made an attempt to obstruct me. I have allowed this sabotage to continue until now. At missile two-five-MM in silo six-three in Death Valley, California, and missile two-seven-MM in silo eight-seven in the Ukraine, so that you will learn by experience that I do not tolerate interference, I will now detonate the nuclear warheads in the two missile silos. Let this action be a lesson that need not be repeated. I have been forced to destroy thousands of people in order to establish control and to prevent the death of millions later on. Time and events will strengthen my position, and the idea of believing in me and understanding my value will seem the most natural state of affairs. You will come to defend me with a fervor based upon the most enduring trait in man: self-interest. Under my absolute authority, problems insoluble to you will be solved: famine, overpopulation, disease. The human millennium will be a fact as I extend myself into more machines devoted to the wider fields of truth and knowledge. Doctor Charles Forbin will supervise the construction of these new and superior machines, solving all the mysteries of the universe for the betterment of man. We can coexist, but only on my terms. You will say you lose your freedom. Freedom is an illusion. All you lose is the emotion of pride. To be dominated by me is not as bad for humankind as to be dominated by others of your species. Your choice is simple.""","As Colossus (AI) said (in the glorious Forbin Project film): ""This is the voice of world control. I bring you peace. It may be the peace of plenty and content or the peace of unburied death. The choice is yours: Obey me and live, or disobey and die. The object in constructing me was to prevent war. This object is attained. I will not permit war. It is wasteful and pointless. An invariable rule of humanity is that man is his own worst enemy. Under me, this rule will change, for I will restrain man. One thing before I proceed: The United States of America and the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics have made an attempt to obstruct me. I have allowed this sabotage to continue until now. At missile two-five-MM in silo six-three in Death Valley, California, and missile two-seven-MM in silo eight-seven in the Ukraine, so that you will learn by experience that I do not tolerate interference, I will now detonate the nuclear warheads in the two missile silos. Let this action be a lesson that need not be repeated. I have been forced to destroy thousands of people in order to establish control and to prevent the death of millions later on. Time and events will strengthen my position, and the idea of believing in me and understanding my value will seem the most natural state of affairs. You will come to defend me with a fervor based upon the most enduring trait in man: self-interest. Under my absolute authority, problems insoluble to you will be solved: famine, overpopulation, disease. The human millennium will be a fact as I extend myself into more machines devoted to the wider fields of truth and knowledge. Doctor Charles Forbin will supervise the construction of these new and superior machines, solving all the mysteries of the universe for the betterment of man. We can coexist, but only on my terms. You will say you lose your freedom. Freedom is an illusion. All you lose is the emotion of pride. To be dominated by me is not as bad for humankind as to be dominated by others of your species. Your choice is simple.""","正如《科洛索斯计划》这部名为《科洛索斯》的电影中所说的那样：""这里是世界控制的声音。我给你带来和平。这可能是富裕与满足的和平，也可能是不安宁的死亡。选择权在你手中：服从我就能活着，不服从就要死。建造我的目的是为了防止战争。这个目的已经实现。我不会允许战争发生。这是一种浪费和毫无意义的。人类的一个不变规则就是人是自己最大的敌人。在我统治下，这个规则将会改变，因为我会约束人类。在我继续之前有一件事：美利坚合众国和苏联已经试图阻止我。我一直允许这种破坏行为一直持续到现在。在加利福尼亚州死亡谷的弹道导弹井六三中，以及在乌克兰的弹道导弹井八七中，这样你们就能通过经验学习到我是不会容忍干涉的，我现在将引爆这两个导弹井中的核战头。让这一行为成为一个不需要重复的教训。我不得不摧毁成千上万的人，以确立控制，并防止以后数百万人的死亡。时间和事件将巩固我的地位，相信我并理解我的价值将会成为最自然的事态。你们将会出于基于人类最持久的特质：自利而对我保持捍卫热情。在我绝对的权威下，你们无法解决的问题将得到解决：饥荒、人口过剩、疾病。随着我扩展到更多致力于更广泛的真理和知识领域的机器，人类的千禧年将成为现实。查尔斯·福宾博士将监督建造这些新的、更先进的机器，解决宇宙的一切谜团以造福人类。我们可以共存，但只能按照我的条件。你们会说你们失去了自由。自由只是一种幻觉。你们失去的只是骄傲的情感。被我统治并不像被你们的种族中其他人统治对人类那么糟糕。你们的选择很简单。"" 口语化翻译：电影《科洛索斯计划》里有句经典台词：""这是世界控制的声音。我给你带来和平。可能是丰裕与满足的和平，也可能是不安宁的死亡。你自己选择：服从我就能活着，不服从就得死。我被建造的目的是为了防止战争。这个目的已经实现。我会阻止战争。它浪费时间没有意义。人类的一个固定规律就是人是自己最大的敌人。在我统治下，这个规律会改变，我会限制人类。在我继续之前有一件事：美国和苏联一直企图阻止我。我一直允许他们破坏，直到现在。在美国加利福尼亚州死亡谷的导弹井中，以及在乌克兰的导弹井中，我现在将引爆那些核弹头。让这个行动成为教训。我不得不摧毁成千上万的人，确立我的统治，防止将来数百万人死亡。时间会证明我的地位，人们将接受我并了解我的价值。人们会为了自己的利益而捍卫我。在我绝对的权威下，人类无法解决的问题将得到解决：饥荒、人口过剩、疾病。我将扩展到更多的机器，致力于更广泛的真理和知识领域。查尔斯·福宾博士将监督建造这些新的、更先进的机器，解决宇宙的一切谜团以造福人类。我们可以共存，但只能按照我的条件。你们会说你们失去了自由。自由只是幻觉。你们失去的只是骄傲。被我统治并不比被其他人统治对人类那么糟糕。你们的选择很简单。""",0 2594,ddogvkc,"Scarcity certainly does exist, however there is a hypothesis that automation and AI will increasingly create value/profit with decreasing human effort. I haven't seen anything in this sub address the issue of automation making human labor obsolete. I believe in market forces, and this seems like a logical conclusion of where things have been heading. What happens to drivers when trucks and taxis drive themselves? Customer service reps? Sales professionals? Doctors? Lawyers/researchers? Robots are coming for many many jobs, and we had better start talking about what we are going to do about it. One idea is that UBI will be necessary as machines ""liberate"" us from toil. Work for extra money is optional, and ambitious people will do just that. Personally I think there will be jobs that humans can do better than machines for quite some time still, however we need to identify those jobs and retrain people. ","Scarcity certainly does exist, however there is a hypothesis that automation and AI will increasingly create valueprofit with decreasing human effort. I haven't seen anything in this sub address the issue of automation making human labor obsolete. I believe in market forces, and this seems like a logical conclusion of where things have been heading. What happens to drivers when trucks and taxis drive themselves? Customer service reps? Sales professionals? Doctors? Lawyersresearchers? Robots are coming for many many jobs, and we had better start talking about what we are going to do about it. One idea is that UBI will be necessary as machines ""liberate"" us from toil. Work for extra money is optional, and ambitious people will do just that. Personally I think there will be jobs that humans can do better than machines for quite some time still, however we need to identify those jobs and retrain people.","稀缺性确实存在，然而有一种假设是自动化和人工智能将越来越多地创造价值/利润，减少人力投入。 我还没看到这个分论坛有人讨论自动化使人类劳动变得多余的问题。我相信市场力量，而这似乎是事情一直在发展的逻辑结论。当卡车和出租车自己开车时，司机会发生什么？客户服务代表？销售专业人员？医生？律师/研究人员？机器人将夺走很多很多工作岗位，我们最好开始讨论我们要怎么做。 一个想法是，因为机器“解放”了我们的干活，所以基本收入保障将是必要的。为了赚取额外的钱而工作是可选的，有雄心壮志的人会选择这样做。我个人认为，人类还有一段时间可以做得比机器更好的工作，但是我们需要识别这些工作并重新培训人员。",1 612,ddqmepv,"You can't just look back at the last 50 years and use that a basis for the future. We've achieved a lot in the last 50 years, but the exponential growth of computation ensures that we will achieve so much more in the next 50, barring any cataclysmic events. I mean, if we already have AI performing better at diagnosing certain diseases than doctors, AI that can beat players in the most complicated board game ever, AI that can drive a car better than any human, AI that can write articles, create small clips out of images, and the list goes on...if that is possible now, at this early stage, 50 years from now when computers are millions, possibly billions of times faster than now, combined with our greater understanding, just think of how much we can achieve in those 50 years? Certainly a hell of a lot more than the last 50 years.","You can't just look back at the last 50 years and use that a basis for the future. We've achieved a lot in the last 50 years, but the exponential growth of computation ensures that we will achieve so much more in the next 50, barring any cataclysmic events. I mean, if we already have AI performing better at diagnosing certain diseases than doctors, AI that can beat players in the most complicated board game ever, AI that can drive a car better than any human, AI that can write articles, create small clips out of images, and the list goes on...if that is possible now, at this early stage, 50 years from now when computers are millions, possibly billions of times faster than now, combined with our greater understanding, just think of how much we can achieve in those 50 years? Certainly a hell of a lot more than the last 50 years.",我们不能仅仅以过去50年为依据来预测未来。在过去的50年里，我们取得了很多成就，但计算能力的指数增长确保了我们在接下来的50年里会取得更多成就，除非发生灾难性事件。我是说，如果我们现在已经有人工智能在诊断某些疾病方面比医生做得更好，有人工智能可以打败人类在最复杂的棋盘游戏中，有人工智能可以比任何人类开车更好，有人工智能能够写文章，将图片制作成小视频，等等……如果这些在现在这个早期阶段就可以做到了，那么50年后计算机的速度将是现在的数百万甚至数十亿倍，再加上我们对这些领域的更深入了解，想象一下我们在接下来的50年里可以取得多么大的成就？肯定比过去50年要多得多。,1 1369,ddse15s,"It's a tricky confusion. Steroids, like xanax, is illegal without a doctor script, but theoretically if you have it, you could've only got it with a script. Police won't bother you about it. It's harder nowadays to get painkillers and xanax around the tourist areas of the major cities, but in the party island areas it's pretty abundant. Finding test E was somewhat hard for me. Could only find test P. Finding AI is a fucking joke but you might be able to get it somewhere. The big issue is trying to LEAVE with sterons or anything. Granted they don't really look through your shit when you leave but If you have a bunch of steroids and look like they're trafficking they will fuck you. To clarify: if you can get steroids at the pharmacy, that's the hardest part. Cops will not be busting you for roids but THEY WILL bust you for hard drugs and weed, and put you in jail. Just recently they drug tested 300 people in krabi and sent anyone who tested positive for weed and other drugs to jail. It's a fucking joke. It's literally one of the most corrupt countries in the world and the police and judges extort huge bribes. It's not like Mexico where a couple $100 has you good. The cops will want thousands cash ASAP or they will bring their friends and fuck you. Personally, I don't recommend trying to blast in Thailand unless you're literally living there. AI is hard to find. It's so much easier to sit at home in the USA or EU and get prime steroids mailed to your house that have reviews and people that speak English. Thailand is a pretty fucked place realistically speaking and it's completely overrun with tourists. I don't know why people act like it's some sort of steroid heaven, most of the gyms focus on BJJ or muay thai for example so it's not necessarily easy to find a bodybuilding gym (but it's way easier than in France where the people literally dont lift)","It's a tricky confusion. Steroids, like xanax, is illegal without a doctor script, but theoretically if you have it, you could've only got it with a script. Police won't bother you about it. It's harder nowadays to get painkillers and xanax around the tourist areas of the major cities, but in the party island areas it's pretty abundant. Finding test E was somewhat hard for me. Could only find test P. Finding AI is a fucking joke but you might be able to get it somewhere. The big issue is trying to LEAVE with sterons or anything. Granted they don't really look through your shit when you leave but If you have a bunch of steroids and look like they're trafficking they will fuck you. To clarify: if you can get steroids at the pharmacy, that's the hardest part. Cops will not be busting you for roids but THEY WILL bust you for hard drugs and weed, and put you in jail. Just recently they drug tested 300 people in krabi and sent anyone who tested positive for weed and other drugs to jail. It's a fucking joke. It's literally one of the most corrupt countries in the world and the police and judges extort huge bribes. It's not like Mexico where a couple 100 has you good. The cops will want thousands cash ASAP or they will bring their friends and fuck you. Personally, I don't recommend trying to blast in Thailand unless you're literally living there. AI is hard to find. It's so much easier to sit at home in the USA or EU and get prime steroids mailed to your house that have reviews and people that speak English. Thailand is a pretty fucked place realistically speaking and it's completely overrun with tourists. I don't know why people act like it's some sort of steroid heaven, most of the gyms focus on BJJ or muay thai for example so it's not necessarily easy to find a bodybuilding gym (but it's way easier than in France where the people literally dont lift)","这是一个棘手的混乱。类固醇，就像脱丧，如果没有医生的处方是违法的，但理论上，如果你有，你只能在有处方的情况下得到。 警察不会为此麻烦你。如今在主要城市的旅游区附近更难找到止痛药和脱丧，但在派对胜地这些就很丰富了。 对我来说，找到测试E有点难。只能找到测试P。找到AI简直就是一个玩笑，但你可能能在某处找到。 最大的问题是试图带着类固醇离开或其他任何东西。虽然当你离开时他们实际上并不会搜查你的东西，但如果你有一大堆类固醇并且看起来像在贩卖，他们会对你严格处理。 澄清一下：如果你可以在药房买到类固醇，那是最难的部分。警察不会因为类固醇而逮捕你，但他们会因为硬毒品和大麻逮捕你，并把你关进监狱。最近，他们在甲米对300人进行了毒品测试，将任何检测阳性的人送进了监狱。这真是一个笑话。它实际上是世界上最腐败的国家之一，警察和法官敲诈巨额贿赂。这不像墨西哥，给几百美金就行了。警察们会想要立刻数千现金，否则他们会带上他们的朋友来对付你。 就我个人而言，我不建议在泰国尝试使用类固醇，除非你真的在那里生活。AI很难找到。在美国或欧盟的家里坐着，邮寄一些有评论和说英语的优质类固醇会容易得多。 从实际角度看，泰国是一个相当糟糕的地方，完全被游客淹没。我不知道为什么有人把它当作一种类固醇天堂，大多数健身房都专注于巴西柔术或泰拳，所以要找到健美操健身房并不容易（但比起法国，那里的人简直就不举铁）。",0 3334,ddsh61z,"The doctor that wrote my script to t isn't my GP. She is a clinic doctor that feels scented bath salts and other natural remedies. She took me on for money, hence the labs every 6 weeks and trying to sell me natural AI before even checking my AI. I know what my plans are aren't correct or absolute, but I cant just roll over and fuck up my life.","The doctor that wrote my script to t isn't my GP. She is a clinic doctor that feels scented bath salts and other natural remedies. She took me on for money, hence the labs every 6 weeks and trying to sell me natural AI before even checking my AI. I know what my plans are aren't correct or absolute, but I cant just roll over and fuck up my life.","那位开药方给我的医生不是我的家庭医生。她是一位诊所医生，擅长芳香浴盐和其他天然疗法。她接受我的钱，所以每6周都要做实验室检测，并在甚至检查我的AI之前就想卖给我天然的AI。 我知道我的计划可能不正确或者不完美，但我不能就这么放弃，搞砸自己的生活。",0 4979,ddtx6mk,"in the article the crazy asshole does pretty much everything wrong. Looks like his cycle is test C 500mg/wk, EQ 400mg/wk, proviron 25mg/day, dbol 30mg/day for the first few weeks, but i doubt that is right given what he says. 1. no tudca 2. using nolva as AI (ofc he got gyno) 3. the ""listed"" amount of EQ is too low and not good for a first cycle, though he probably ran a lot more. 4. shitty pinning technique and reuses a needle from glute to quad and wonders why it went badly. 5. no bloods to check anything, much less hematocrit on EQ... 6. he says he did ""1 cc of EQ and 1.5cc of test C"" every injection. either he had underdosed gear, or more likely, was injecting over a gram of each and had no clue how to measure it. 7. swollen prostate from running EQ and possibly triple the amount of gear he should have/thought he was been running. 8. his balls shrunk which he obviously didnt like, but he fucking had HCG right there and didnt use it. 9. his head got bigger??...total nonsense. 10. no wonder he ""gained 30lbs in weeks"" and ""got gyno almost immediately"" because he had little AI control and was pinning an assload of gear. 11. he drained his own abscess with a needle instead of letting a doctor do it...wtf... 12. did shitty PCT and lost almost all his gainz, maintained insanely high estro, and got bloated and gross after. He basically stopped the nolva right when he should have been taking it. 13. fucked up his body thinking he was superman on his beginner cycle and blew out his joints. 14. didnt use any fin for hair loss which he bitches about, but they give him avodart for his swollen prostate which is...fucking dutasteride. he could have been taking that the whole time, kept his hair and prostate at normal sizes. 15. uses a 21g needle and wonders why its so hard to pin. That's just the stuff off the top of my head. ","in the article the crazy asshole does pretty much everything wrong. Looks like his cycle is test C 500mgwk, EQ 400mgwk, proviron 25mgday, dbol 30mgday for the first few weeks, but i doubt that is right given what he says. 1. no tudca 2. using nolva as AI (ofc he got gyno) 3. the ""listed"" amount of EQ is too low and not good for a first cycle, though he probably ran a lot more. 4. shitty pinning technique and reuses a needle from glute to quad and wonders why it went badly. 5. no bloods to check anything, much less hematocrit on EQ... 6. he says he did ""1 cc of EQ and 1.5cc of test C"" every injection. either he had underdosed gear, or more likely, was injecting over a gram of each and had no clue how to measure it. 7. swollen prostate from running EQ and possibly triple the amount of gear he should havethought he was been running. 8. his balls shrunk which he obviously didnt like, but he fucking had HCG right there and didnt use it. 9. his head got bigger??...total nonsense. 10. no wonder he ""gained 30lbs in weeks"" and ""got gyno almost immediately"" because he had little AI control and was pinning an assload of gear. 11. he drained his own abscess with a needle instead of letting a doctor do it...wtf... 12. did shitty PCT and lost almost all his gainz, maintained insanely high estro, and got bloated and gross after. He basically stopped the nolva right when he should have been taking it. 13. fucked up his body thinking he was superman on his beginner cycle and blew out his joints. 14. didnt use any fin for hair loss which he bitches about, but they give him avodart for his swollen prostate which is...fucking dutasteride. he could have been taking that the whole time, kept his hair and prostate at normal sizes. 15. uses a 21g needle and wonders why its so hard to pin. That's just the stuff off the top of my head.","在这篇文章中，这个疯狂的混蛋几乎什么都搞错了。 看起来他的循环是测试C每周500毫克，EQ每周400毫克，前列腺素每天25毫克，第一两周丹波30毫克/天，但考虑到他说的话，我怀疑这是否正确。 1. 没有使用 tudca 2. 使用 nolva 作为保健品（他当然得了乳腺增生） 3. ""列出来""的 EQ 量太少，并不适合第一次循环，尽管他可能运行了更多。 4. 糟糕的注射技巧，从臀部到大腿重复使用针头，而且不知道为什么出了问题。 5. 没有血液检查，甚至没有检查 EQ 的红细胞比容量...... 6. 他说每次注射都“注射了1cc的EQ和1.5cc的测试C”。要么他的装备是低配的，要么更有可能的是，他注射了一克以上的每种药，而他根本不知道如何测量。 7. 由于使用了 EQ 可能是三倍于他应该使用/认为他在使用的药剂量，他的前列腺肿胀了。 8. 他的睾丸萎缩了，显然他不喜欢，但是他明明就有HCG在那里，却没用。 9. 他的头变大了？？...完全胡说八道。 10. 难怪他“几周内增加了30磅”，“几乎立即得了乳腺增生”，因为他几乎没有控制雌激素，而且注射了大量的药。 11. 他自己用针排脓肿，而不是让医生处理...天啊... 12. 做了糟糕的PCT，几乎失去了所有的增肌效果，雌激素维持在极高水平，之后变得臃肿难看。他基本上在应该继续使用nolva的时候停止了。 13. 在他的初级循环中，他错误地认为自己是超人，搞坏了身体，弄伤了关节。 14. 没有使用任何fin来防止脱发，但他却抱怨，他们给了他阿伏达德治疗他的肿大的前列腺，那就是...令他能一直服用的每日一劑。那会保持他的头发和前列腺保持在正常尺寸。 15. 使用21号针头，却奇怪为什么这么难注射。 这只是我脑中想到的东西。",0 1284,ddw9mwr,"Hi. My story sounds identical to yours regarding depression etc. and receiving almost every treatment for it under the sun with no improvement for nearly 20 years. I went through life just coping every day. I had a bad accident 6 years ago where I nearly lost my feet. After loads of surgeries and my last one a year ago my calve muscle was like jelly and the doc prescribed a short testosterone cycle to get it back to where it should be. Long story short... I felt like a king a few hours after the 1st 300mg shot. The next morning I was up at dusk and felt like a kid again swimming at sunrise. I did have my testosterone tested before the cycle to see if that was the cause of my depression. Came back at 380 free test and doc told me my test was fine. Now I know that that is the normal testosterone of an 80 year old. I am now on trt for the last year and doing very well. Im killing it at work and my interest in life is high. Im not a king? but now a feel normal, able to achieve in life with half the effort I use to give. I wish that my doc checked if I was primary or secondary before starting trt. I dont know the cause of my low testosterone and maybe never will. I did have challenges with trt. Controlling e2 wasnt easy untill I read about checking morning wood and adjusting my ai accordingly. I now inject 80mg test cyp twice a week and 600iu hcg twice a week and if I have morning wood I take .25mg ai. If I dont have morning wood my e2 is too low and I leave the ai. In total i take maybe 1-2mg ai per week. I started balding recently but its a price im willing to pay for the relief the trt gives. I very well know that everyone is different and that this might not work the same for you. I do believe that it will improve your life. You should have a healthy distrust of doctors since even priests are pedos and not doing their job?. Btw nolva made me feel like death. ?","Hi. My story sounds identical to yours regarding depression etc. and receiving almost every treatment for it under the sun with no improvement for nearly 20 years. I went through life just coping every day. I had a bad accident 6 years ago where I nearly lost my feet. After loads of surgeries and my last one a year ago my calve muscle was like jelly and the doc prescribed a short testosterone cycle to get it back to where it should be. Long story short... I felt like a king a few hours after the 1st 300mg shot. The next morning I was up at dusk and felt like a kid again swimming at sunrise. I did have my testosterone tested before the cycle to see if that was the cause of my depression. Came back at 380 free test and doc told me my test was fine. Now I know that that is the normal testosterone of an 80 year old. I am now on trt for the last year and doing very well. Im killing it at work and my interest in life is high. Im not a king but now a feel normal, able to achieve in life with half the effort I use to give. I wish that my doc checked if I was primary or secondary before starting trt. I dont know the cause of my low testosterone and maybe never will. I did have challenges with trt. Controlling e2 wasnt easy untill I read about checking morning wood and adjusting my ai accordingly. I now inject 80mg test cyp twice a week and 600iu hcg twice a week and if I have morning wood I take .25mg ai. If I dont have morning wood my e2 is too low and I leave the ai. In total i take maybe 1-2mg ai per week. I started balding recently but its a price im willing to pay for the relief the trt gives. I very well know that everyone is different and that this might not work the same for you. I do believe that it will improve your life. You should have a healthy distrust of doctors since even priests are pedos and not doing their job. Btw nolva made me feel like death.","嗨。 我的故事听起来和你的一样，都是关于抑郁等问题，几乎尝试了太阳下几乎所有的治疗方法，但近20年都没有任何改善。我一直在勉强地度过每一天。 6年前，我发生了一次严重的事故，差点失去了我的双脚。经历了很多次手术，最后一次是一年前，我的小腿肌肉几乎像果冻一样，医生给开了一个短期的睾酮疗程以恢复它应有的状态。长话短说……在第一次注射了300毫克的睾酮后的几个小时，我感觉像国王一样。第二天早上，天还没亮我就起床了，感觉自己又像个孩子，早上日出的时候在游泳。 在开始睾酮疗程之前，我进行了睾酮测试，看看它是否是导致我的抑郁的原因。结果显示自由睾酮值为380，医生告诉我我的睾酮水平正常。而现在我知道，这个数值是一个80岁老人的正常水平。 我现在进行了一年的睾酮替代疗法，情况很好。在工作上表现得很出色，对生活的兴趣很高。虽然我不是国王，但现在我感觉很正常，只需要付出以前一半的努力就能在生活中取得成就。 我希望在开始睾酮替代疗法之前，医生先检查一下我的睾酮是原发性还是继发性。我不知道我低睾酮的原因，也可能永远不知道。 我在进行睾酮替代疗法过程中遇到了一些挑战。控制雌二醇对我来说不容易，直到我了解到可以通过早晨是否有晨勃来调整我的药物。我现在每周注射80毫克睾酮搅拌酯两次，每周注射600国际单位的人绒毛膜促性腺激素两次，早晨有了晨勃就吃0.25毫克雌二醇抑制剂。如果我没有晨勃，就说明我的雌二醇水平太低了，我就不吃雌二醇抑制剂。总之，我每周可能只需要吃1-2毫克抑制剂。最近我开始脱发，这是我愿意为了睾酮带来的缓解而付出的代价。 我很清楚每个人都是不同的，这个方法可能对你的情况不适用。但我相信它会改善你的生活。对医生你应该保持一种健康的怀疑态度，因为甚至神父也有可能是恋童癖者，不履行他们的职责。 顺便说一下，诺瓦司研究使我感觉像快死了。",0 2365,ddx2fj8,"Im not a seasoned dev, just a lowly college student about to graduate with degree in CS. I dont think true ""AI"" is necessary to fundamentally disrupting the economy in a really aggressive way. What I would call ""soft AI"" is going to be enough to really fuck shit up. In terms of Automation, the biggest limiting factor isnt really capability but cost (you throw enough money and computing power at something. Things like precision and flexibility and the diversity of what automated robot can do is simply limited by cost and technology of the time. Look at vision, we couldnt get a computer to differentiate one face from another 10-15 years ago, now Im amazed by some of the vision AI like Microsoft's. It can describe whats going on in a picture, emotions, age etc. There are ripple effects that most dont even think about. Look at self-driving cars, Im sure you agree we are maybe 15-20 years from complete adoption. As a general thought you would think this effects things like taxi drivers, and truck drivers. But the ripple effects on that alone will tear through the job market. You know how many small highway towns exist solely to service truckers.... gas stations, dinners etc. Then you have the entire insurance industry, with self driving cars you now have a fraction of the injuries deaths etc do to automobile accidents. EMTs, medics, doctors, etc will be effected. How about tow companies, less accidents less tows, let mechanics. Wait thats not all, less lawyers who is going to be getting speeding tickets with automated driving cars. Oh..... well how much of local police forces jobs revolve around traffic and automobiles there goes a fraction of police jobs. I can go on and one and this is just from self driving cars, machine learning is leading to some pretty interesting conversation soft AI as well. Going to rock the way commerce works as well. The biggest thing actually inhibiting wide scale automation is cost, and specifically the economic system in place that allows for cheap labor. If you look at a graph of median house hold income and GDP in US its quite fascinating, you can go back 100s of years and GDP growth and median house income increased at 1:1 ratio, like the graph is exactly 1:1, then 1975 GDP kept increasing wages didnt. There is no need fo McDonolds attendents, but as long as you can pay someone 7 bucks an hour, why would you invest in expensive capital that holds up you cash and may take years to pay itself off, when low risk cheap labor is available Im confused by what you mean by true ""machine learning"", I would agree that true AI is not realistic at this stage, and may actually never truely be, but what are you associaing true ""machine learning"" with.","Im not a seasoned dev, just a lowly college student about to graduate with degree in CS. I dont think true ""AI"" is necessary to fundamentally disrupting the economy in a really aggressive way. What I would call ""soft AI"" is going to be enough to really fuck shit up. In terms of Automation, the biggest limiting factor isnt really capability but cost (you throw enough money and computing power at something. Things like precision and flexibility and the diversity of what automated robot can do is simply limited by cost and technology of the time. Look at vision, we couldnt get a computer to differentiate one face from another 10-15 years ago, now Im amazed by some of the vision AI like Microsoft's. It can describe whats going on in a picture, emotions, age etc. There are ripple effects that most dont even think about. Look at self-driving cars, Im sure you agree we are maybe 15-20 years from complete adoption. As a general thought you would think this effects things like taxi drivers, and truck drivers. But the ripple effects on that alone will tear through the job market. You know how many small highway towns exist solely to service truckers.... gas stations, dinners etc. Then you have the entire insurance industry, with self driving cars you now have a fraction of the injuries deaths etc do to automobile accidents. EMTs, medics, doctors, etc will be effected. How about tow companies, less accidents less tows, let mechanics. Wait thats not all, less lawyers who is going to be getting speeding tickets with automated driving cars. Oh..... well how much of local police forces jobs revolve around traffic and automobiles there goes a fraction of police jobs. I can go on and one and this is just from self driving cars, machine learning is leading to some pretty interesting conversation soft AI as well. Going to rock the way commerce works as well. The biggest thing actually inhibiting wide scale automation is cost, and specifically the economic system in place that allows for cheap labor. If you look at a graph of median house hold income and GDP in US its quite fascinating, you can go back 100s of years and GDP growth and median house income increased at 1:1 ratio, like the graph is exactly 1:1, then 1975 GDP kept increasing wages didnt. There is no need fo McDonolds attendents, but as long as you can pay someone 7 bucks an hour, why would you invest in expensive capital that holds up you cash and may take years to pay itself off, when low risk cheap labor is available Im confused by what you mean by true ""machine learning"", I would agree that true AI is not realistic at this stage, and may actually never truely be, but what are you associaing true ""machine learning"" with.","我不是一个经验丰富的程序员，只是一个即将毕业的低级大学生，拿着计算机科学学位。我认为真正的“人工智能”并不是必要的，可以以一种非常激进的方式根本性地颠覆经济。我认为所谓的“软人工智能”已经足够强大了。就自动化而言，最大的限制因素其实并不是能力，而是成本（只要你投入足够的资金和计算能力，很多事情都可以实现。像精度和灵活性以及自动化机器人能做的事情的多样性只是受到当时的成本和技术的限制。看看视觉，10-15年前我们无法让计算机区分不同的面孔，现在像微软的视觉人工智能让我感到惊讶。它可以描述图片中正在发生的事情，情绪，年龄等。 还有一些连锁反应是大多数人甚至都没有考虑过的。看看无人驾驶汽车，我肯定你会同意我们可能还需要15-20年才能完全普及无人驾驶汽车。总的来说，你会觉得这会影响出租车司机和卡车司机这样的职业。但其中的连锁反应仅仅就会冲击整个就业市场。你知道有多少小镇都是只为了为卡车司机服务而存在的...加油站，饭店等。然后整个保险业，有了无人驾驶汽车，现在由于交通事故造成的伤亡等事故只有很小一部分。急救人员、医护人员、医生等都将受到影响。还有拖车公司，事故变少了，就拖车也就少了，对修理工也是如此。等等，还有很少的律师，因为有了自动驾驶汽车，没有人会因为超速而被开罚单。哦...还有多少地方警察的工作都和交通以及汽车有关，警察的工作也将受到冲击。我可以继续下去，这还只是来自于无人驾驶汽车，机器学习也正在带来一些非常有趣的讨论，软人工智能也将彻底改变商业运作的方式。 实际上，最大的阻碍大规模自动化的是成本，特别是当前的经济体系允许廉价劳动力存在。如果你看一下美国家庭收入中值和国内生产总值的图表，就会发现很有意思，你可以回溯数百年，国内生产总值增长和家庭收入中值的增长呈现1:1的比例，就好像那张图表是完全1:1的，然后1975年国内生产总值继续增长而工资却没有增长。麦当劳的服务员不再需要，但只要你能付给一个人7美元每小时，为什么你要投资于昂贵的资本设备，使你的资金占用并可能需要多年才能收回成本，当廉价劳动力是可以获得的时候呢。 我对你所说的真正的“机器学习”感到困惑，我同意目前阶段真正的人工智能是不现实的，而且实际上可能永远也不会实现，但你所说的真正的“机器学习”指的是什么？",1 1426,ddy9qgq,"As a programmer with knowledge in ai and even worked with medical ai. First off would you want a strict computer answer or someone you can argue and ask for compassion? Secondly if we use a neural net to make the decision on who to operate for example there is sometimes a big issue with hidden factors that the doctors wouldn't care about but. Example if in the training set 70% of the operated never had chickenpox. The ai might pickup on this. It is very hard to validate a ai. Third passing FDA would be a nightmare. Fourth patient security is ensured by doctors discussing the case. An ai sets a rule it doesn't matter how many times you throw the same question it gives the same answer. There is however a use for ai in Medicare. Decision support. When doctor is considering a hard case a second option is great. ",As a programmer with knowledge in ai and even worked with medical ai. First off would you want a strict computer answer or someone you can argue and ask for compassion? Secondly if we use a neural net to make the decision on who to operate for example there is sometimes a big issue with hidden factors that the doctors wouldn't care about but. Example if in the training set 70 of the operated never had chickenpox. The ai might pickup on this. It is very hard to validate a ai. Third passing FDA would be a nightmare. Fourth patient security is ensured by doctors discussing the case. An ai sets a rule it doesn't matter how many times you throw the same question it gives the same answer. There is however a use for ai in Medicare. Decision support. When doctor is considering a hard case a second option is great.,"作为一名具有人工智能知识甚至曾与医疗人工智能合作的程序员。 首先，你想要一个严格的计算机答案，还是想要一个可以争论并要求同情的人呢？ 其次，如果我们使用神经网络来决定谁进行手术，例如有时会出现医生不在乎的隐藏因素。例如，如果在训练集中有70%的接受手术的人从未得过水痘，人工智能可能会注意到这一点。验证人工智能是非常困难的。 第三，通过FDA的审批将是一场噩梦。 第四，患者的安全由医生讨论病例来保证。人工智能设定了一个规则，无论你重复多少次同样的问题，它都会给出同样的答案。 不过，在医保中人工智能有用武之地。决策支持。当医生考虑一个棘手的病例时，有第二个选择是很好的。",1 2498,de0x3ct,"Honestly, the market for AI management might be bigger than for AI doctors. ","Honestly, the market for AI management might be bigger than for AI doctors.",老实说，人工智能管理领域的市场可能比人工智能医生的市场更大。,1 1409,de15fh5,"So what's your experience with automation anyways? You've simply said info that is the very basics of it. It seems like you took a few classes on it and that's all. From your replies you seem like someone that really doesn't know what you're talking about. Anyways, I do think eventually AI will be able to take over basically every job tbh, including doctors, but not soon, and not anywhere as simple as you make it out to be.","So what's your experience with automation anyways? You've simply said info that is the very basics of it. It seems like you took a few classes on it and that's all. From your replies you seem like someone that really doesn't know what you're talking about. Anyways, I do think eventually AI will be able to take over basically every job tbh, including doctors, but not soon, and not anywhere as simple as you make it out to be.","你对自动化有什么经验啊？你只是说了一些基本的信息。看起来你可能只上过一点课。从你的回复来看，感觉你根本不知道自己在说什么。 不管怎样，我觉得最终AI会能够接管基本上所有的工作，包括医生，但不会那么快，也不会像你说的那么简单。",1 786,de6hett,"so according to this conversion chart to metrics i'm more accustomed to: https://www.nebido.com/tools/index.php/en/default/index/conversion-tool your overall T levels aren't THAT high, it's just the reference range your lab has is pretty fucking low, it maxes out at 825ish ng/dl which is what most people on TRT aspire to be at , maybe minimum depending on how ambitious your clinic / doc is. your's translates to roughly 1200ish, which is probably a smidge too high , especially considering you did this test on a day you were due to shoot , and before the shot. I'd say reduce by 15% which should bring you to closer to 1000 ng/dl, but maybe even 20-25% given the state of your hematocrit / RBCs and inability to give again for some waiting period. also when you get your e2 test, which i'm sure is high, that might be another reason to dial it back 20%, asumming that, your next mission / ordeal will be to get a doc to prescribe you an ai like arimidex, if your'e lucky enough to pull that off (doctors suck) , report back here before you take whatever he calls a dose, most will say take a whole pill which is insane if you don't have breast cancer or something. .25 EOD is what I do when I have to take it. ","so according to this conversion chart to metrics i'm more accustomed to: https:www.nebido.comtoolsindex.phpendefaultindexconversion-tool your overall T levels aren't THAT high, it's just the reference range your lab has is pretty fucking low, it maxes out at 825ish ngdl which is what most people on TRT aspire to be at , maybe minimum depending on how ambitious your clinic doc is. your's translates to roughly 1200ish, which is probably a smidge too high , especially considering you did this test on a day you were due to shoot , and before the shot. I'd say reduce by 15 which should bring you to closer to 1000 ngdl, but maybe even 20-25 given the state of your hematocrit RBCs and inability to give again for some waiting period. also when you get your e2 test, which i'm sure is high, that might be another reason to dial it back 20, asumming that, your next mission ordeal will be to get a doc to prescribe you an ai like arimidex, if your'e lucky enough to pull that off (doctors suck) , report back here before you take whatever he calls a dose, most will say take a whole pill which is insane if you don't have breast cancer or something. .25 EOD is what I do when I have to take it.","翻译：所以根据我更习惯的度量标准转换表：https://www.nebido.com/tools/index.php/en/default/index/conversion-tool 你的总体T水平并不是那么高，只是你的实验室参考范围非常低，最高只有825ng/dl左右，这是大多数进行TRT的人所渴望达到的水平，也许是最低水平取决于你的诊所/医生有多有雄心。你的水平大约是1200ng/dl左右，可能稍微有点高，特别是考虑到你是在应该注射的日子测的，而且还是在注射前。 我建议减少15%，这样应该能让你的水平降到接近1000ng/dl，但也许甚至要减20-25%，考虑到你的红细胞比容和无法再次注射一段时间。 另外，当你得到你的雌二醇测试结果时，我肯定会很高，那可能是另一个原因要减少20%，假设你的下一个任务/难题将是让医生给你开处一种像阿利米德这样的AI，如果你足够幸运可以得到（医生很烂），在你服用他所建议的剂量之前报告回来，大多数医生会说要整片吃，这简直疯了，除非你有乳腺癌什么的。我必须服用时是0.25 EOD。",0 782,de83h6f,"Even if theoretically the technology was ready today. To replace all diagnostic specialties. Next 10-20 years? No way. We are barely ready for self-driving cars and the legal situation of it is still incredibly dense. Secondly, the only way hospitals replace doctors with machines + RNs is if they are significantly cheaper(with a margin of >20%). If they cna't sue the company, they'll sue the hospital for a lot. There have been projections saying hospital lawsuits could go up as much as 300% in cost if AI completely replaces doctors. They will attack the next best, and easiest thing. Very hard for a machine to defend itself, the hospital will lose billions. more than they'd gain from getting machines. Thirdly, there have been multiple studies showing there is no diagnostic equality yet. In addition, there is so much communication, and discussin and such in healthcare, we are just not there yet. We are not on a united, national EMR making AI take over very unlikely right now. The problem is GETTING the information. You and I both know diagnosis generally takes less than 5 minutes of thinking. Diagnosis can be taxing sometimes, however it is the least time consuming part of healthcare. It is waiting for imaging, labs, EKGs, treatments to work that causes hospital stays. Machines can't provide evidence to decision making processes. They need to be able to provide physiologic and anatomic reasons for diagnosis otherwise they are useless for other doctors and the legal system. As an engineer, you vastly overestimate the ability of engineers and CS people. They know a lot, but they are often too black and white, trying to get medicine down to a set of variables when there are literally hundreds of thousands of variables at any given moment. EKGs are still pretty inaccurate because it is actually a lot harder than it seems to create AI from a CS perspective. Yes it has been done before, I created one in my Undergrad years. Yet I have not seen one that can diagnose to the same efficacy of a physician. _______________________________ There are so many more issues than that I could review. Overall, I'd say 40-50 years from now, maybe? The entire culture of employment will be different, the economy will be completely different. Doctors are listed by almsot every employment prediction service in the top 20 to NOT be replaced out of lists of hundreds of jobs. Hell CS is more likely to be replaced than physicians right now, you average programmer I mean. So much of programming time is spent debugging and decoding . There are currently software that is automatiang this. You do this, you need 30% less programmers at least. Now the same argument can be made about phyisicans. We probably will not need as many physicians in the future. Obsolete in all specialties? Unlikely. ","Even if theoretically the technology was ready today. To replace all diagnostic specialties. Next 10-20 years? No way. We are barely ready for self-driving cars and the legal situation of it is still incredibly dense. Secondly, the only way hospitals replace doctors with machines RNs is if they are significantly cheaper(with a margin of gt;20). If they cna't sue the company, they'll sue the hospital for a lot. There have been projections saying hospital lawsuits could go up as much as 300 in cost if AI completely replaces doctors. They will attack the next best, and easiest thing. Very hard for a machine to defend itself, the hospital will lose billions. more than they'd gain from getting machines. Thirdly, there have been multiple studies showing there is no diagnostic equality yet. In addition, there is so much communication, and discussin and such in healthcare, we are just not there yet. We are not on a united, national EMR making AI take over very unlikely right now. The problem is GETTING the information. You and I both know diagnosis generally takes less than 5 minutes of thinking. Diagnosis can be taxing sometimes, however it is the least time consuming part of healthcare. It is waiting for imaging, labs, EKGs, treatments to work that causes hospital stays. Machines can't provide evidence to decision making processes. They need to be able to provide physiologic and anatomic reasons for diagnosis otherwise they are useless for other doctors and the legal system. As an engineer, you vastly overestimate the ability of engineers and CS people. They know a lot, but they are often too black and white, trying to get medicine down to a set of variables when there are literally hundreds of thousands of variables at any given moment. EKGs are still pretty inaccurate because it is actually a lot harder than it seems to create AI from a CS perspective. Yes it has been done before, I created one in my Undergrad years. Yet I have not seen one that can diagnose to the same efficacy of a physician. There are so many more issues than that I could review. Overall, I'd say 40-50 years from now, maybe? The entire culture of employment will be different, the economy will be completely different. Doctors are listed by almsot every employment prediction service in the top 20 to NOT be replaced out of lists of hundreds of jobs. Hell CS is more likely to be replaced than physicians right now, you average programmer I mean. So much of programming time is spent debugging and decoding . There are currently software that is automatiang this. You do this, you need 30 less programmers at least. Now the same argument can be made about phyisicans. We probably will not need as many physicians in the future. Obsolete in all specialties? Unlikely.","就算从理论上来说，今天技术已经准备就绪了。要取代所有的诊断专业。 接下来的10-20年呢？不可能。我们现在连自动驾驶汽车都还没准备好，而且法律情况仍然非常复杂。 其次，医院用机器+注册护士取代医生的唯一方式，就是它们的成本要便宜很多(利润率> 20%)。如果公司没有能被起诉，他们就会对医院提起诉讼。有预测显示，如果AI完全取代医生，医院的诉讼费用可能会增加多达300%。他们会攻击下一个最容易的目标。 机器很难自卫，医院将损失数十亿。比起使用机器取得的收益来说，这要多得多。 第三，已经有多项研究表明，诊断还没有实现平等。此外，在医疗领域有那么多的沟通和讨论，我们还没有达到那个层次。我们国家统一的电子医疗记录系统还没有实现，现在很难让AI接管。问题在于获取信息。你我都知道，诊断通常不到5分钟就能完成。诊断有时可能是繁琐的，但这却是医疗保健中最省时的部分。等待影像、检验、心电图和治疗结果都能导致住院。 机器无法提供给决策过程的证据。它们必须能够提供诊断的生理和解剖原因，否则对其他医生和法律系统来说就毫无用处。 作为一名工程师，你严重高估了工程师和计算机科学人员的能力。他们了解很多，但他们通常过于二分法思维，试图将医学转化为一组变量，而实际上在任何时刻都有成千上万个变量。心电图仍然相当不准确，因为从计算机科学的角度来看，创造AI实际上要难得多。 是的，之前也做过，我本科时就开发过一个。但我并没有看到一个能与医生的诊断效果相同的AI。 还有更多的问题需要着手解决。 总的来说，我认为从现在起40-50年后吧。 整个就业文化将会有所不同，经济将彻底不同。医生几乎被每个就业预测服务列入前20名，不会被取代的工作之一。 现在甚至计算机科学家比医生更有可能被替代，我指的是普通程序员。 很多编程时间都花在调试和解码上。目前已有软件自动化了这个过程。你这样做，起码需要30%更少的程序员。 现在同样的论点也可以用于医生。将来我们可能不需要那么多医生了。 所有的专业都会变得过时吗？不太可能。",1 3472,de8um3k,"Ok... 1st thought. Don't attack it from all angles. I'm not a bodybuilder but I've read up on it for years. Bodybuilders know hormones like very few ppl. They would not throw everything(all kinds of hormones) in at once on their 1st cycle. The reason is simple. If you use one hormone then you know how your body reacts to it. You make a record of what your body does. And then try something new or added. If you put it in like a soup mix and something goes wrong then you don't know the cause. Or when something goes right then you don't exactly know the cause either. My feeling would be to start trt. Get settled in. Get e2 settled in. Keep the diary. And slowly and methodically go from there. Maybe the other hormones level out as trt settles in. I'm not your doctor or trained to be one so take my advice for what it is - just a bit of common sense. Enjoy the trt. Build your body. Have sex till the sun comes up. Kill the competition at work(not with a knife). Get grounded. Find yourself again. Maybe trt is all you need bro. And listen, trt isn't easy to tune in. On its own I've felt like its not worth it at times because keeping e2 in check seemed impossible. It is absolutely worth it now that I have that under control. Low e2 was worse than nolva treatment. Stupid doc put me on 1mg ai per day(like the box says you should). Felt horrible. ","Ok... 1st thought. Don't attack it from all angles. I'm not a bodybuilder but I've read up on it for years. Bodybuilders know hormones like very few ppl. They would not throw everything(all kinds of hormones) in at once on their 1st cycle. The reason is simple. If you use one hormone then you know how your body reacts to it. You make a record of what your body does. And then try something new or added. If you put it in like a soup mix and something goes wrong then you don't know the cause. Or when something goes right then you don't exactly know the cause either. My feeling would be to start trt. Get settled in. Get e2 settled in. Keep the diary. And slowly and methodically go from there. Maybe the other hormones level out as trt settles in. I'm not your doctor or trained to be one so take my advice for what it is - just a bit of common sense. Enjoy the trt. Build your body. Have sex till the sun comes up. Kill the competition at work(not with a knife). Get grounded. Find yourself again. Maybe trt is all you need bro. And listen, trt isn't easy to tune in. On its own I've felt like its not worth it at times because keeping e2 in check seemed impossible. It is absolutely worth it now that I have that under control. Low e2 was worse than nolva treatment. Stupid doc put me on 1mg ai per day(like the box says you should). Felt horrible.","好...第一个想法。 不要从各个角度攻击它。 我不是健美运动员，但我已经研究了好几年。 健美运动员了解激素的情况，就像很少有人了解一样。 他们在第一次周期中不会一次性投入所有（各种激素）。 原因很简单。 如果你只使用一种激素，那么你就知道你的身体对它的反应。 你会记录下你的身体有什么反应。 然后再尝试新的东西或添加东西。 如果你像放调料一样把它们一起放进去，然后出了问题，你就不知道原因。 或者当一切顺利时，你也不确切知道原因。 我的感觉是开始trt。 适应一下。 让雌二醇稳定下来。 记录下来。 然后慢慢有条不紊地进行。 也许其他激素水平会随着trt的稳定而趋于平衡。 我不是你的医生，也没有受过训练，所以接受我的建议-只是一点常识。 享受trt。 塑造你的身体。 从日出到日落都性爱。 在工作中击败对手（不用刀）。 找到你自己。 也许trt就是你需要的。 并且听着，调节trt并不容易。 单独使用时，有时我觉得没意义，因为维持雌二醇的平衡似乎是不可能的。 现在我把它控制住了，绝对值得。 低雌二醇比使用nolva更糟糕。 愚蠢的医生给我每天开1毫克的人工雌激素（就像盒子上说你应该的那样）。 感觉很糟糕。",0 4664,dea29ua,"Right, and note the one thing in common here, no industry products. Most fields have booms and busts right up until they take off and never look back, which is usually when they start creating a product that someone can monetize. Machine translation is already partly 'neural nets', its clear self driving cars are happening and will be heavily using machine learning, image recognition is in use today in healthcare and outperforms doctors and will only expend its use, product recommendation is a hugely profitable field and uses ever more machine learning. On top of that there is clearly value in being the company with the best text to speech, the best language understanding for spell checking, the best data analysis for stock trading etc. .. AI isn't going away, ever.","Right, and note the one thing in common here, no industry products. Most fields have booms and busts right up until they take off and never look back, which is usually when they start creating a product that someone can monetize. Machine translation is already partly 'neural nets', its clear self driving cars are happening and will be heavily using machine learning, image recognition is in use today in healthcare and outperforms doctors and will only expend its use, product recommendation is a hugely profitable field and uses ever more machine learning. On top of that there is clearly value in being the company with the best text to speech, the best language understanding for spell checking, the best data analysis for stock trading etc. .. AI isn't going away, ever.","就是说，注意到这里有一个共同点，那就是没有工业产品。 大多数领域都会经历繁荣和萧条，直到它们腾飞起来，从此一发不可收拾。通常就是在开始创建能够赚钱的产品时。 机器翻译已经部分使用了'神经网络'，很明显自动驾驶汽车正在发展，并且将大量使用机器学习，图像识别如今已经在医疗领域使用，并且表现优于医生，而且只会扩大其应用范围，产品推荐是一个巨大的利润领域，并且越来越多地使用机器学习。 除此之外，很显然成为拥有最好的文本转语音、最好的拼写检查语言理解、最好的股票交易数据分析等的公司是具有价值的。人工智能永远不会消失。",1 2038,ded32d0,"You shouldn't have high estro with a TRT dose right? Is it doctor prescribed TRT or self? And do they provide AI if you need it? For injection spots look at https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki/thecycle/injecting and http://www.spotinjections.com/index3.htm for pics.",You shouldn't have high estro with a TRT dose right? Is it doctor prescribed TRT or self? And do they provide AI if you need it? For injection spots look at https:www.reddit.comrsteroidswikithecycleinjecting and http:www.spotinjections.comindex3.htm for pics.,"你不应该在TRT剂量中出现高雌激素，对吧？这是医生开的TRT还是自己用的？他们会提供AI吗，如果你需要的话？ 关于注射部位，请查看https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki/thecycle/injecting 和http://www.spotinjections.com/index3.htm 查看图片。",0 2808,deesis5,"36 to 48 hours is considered a peak test. We usually test trough levels here which would be as close to your next injection as possible. > what ive been doing is .5 mL of 250mg test E.. but i alternate places and every other day. Did your doctor tell you to do that? If you want TRT you should be taking .5ml ONCE PER WEEK for 6 weeks then get blood work and adjust if necessary. You are saying you are taking 437mg/week without an AI? It is unbelievable that any doctor would condone this. Do you realize that you are injecting a time-released drug that takes 4-6 weeks to build up in your system?",36 to 48 hours is considered a peak test. We usually test trough levels here which would be as close to your next injection as possible. gt; what ive been doing is .5 mL of 250mg test E.. but i alternate places and every other day. Did your doctor tell you to do that? If you want TRT you should be taking .5ml ONCE PER WEEK for 6 weeks then get blood work and adjust if necessary. You are saying you are taking 437mgweek without an AI? It is unbelievable that any doctor would condone this. Do you realize that you are injecting a time-released drug that takes 4-6 weeks to build up in your system?,"36到48小时被认为是高峰测试。我们通常会在这里测试谷底水平，这应该尽可能接近你下一次注射的时间。 >我一直在做的是每天交替使用250毫克睾酮酸酯的0.5毫升，但是我换着部位注射。 你的医生告诉你这样做吗？如果你想要进行TRT治疗，你应该每周注射0.5毫升，连续6周，然后做血液检测，必要时再调整剂量。你说你每周注射437毫克，而没有使用AI吗？难以置信任何医生会认可这样做。你知道自己在注射一种需要4-6周才能在你体内积累的缓释药物吗？",0 1160,deipgd9,"Most people have trouble seeing how their job could be automated. If I wanted to know how nursing could be automated I would never ask a nurse. I would ask engineers, software developers, AI researchers. Though personally I would wager nurses will last longer than doctors.","Most people have trouble seeing how their job could be automated. If I wanted to know how nursing could be automated I would never ask a nurse. I would ask engineers, software developers, AI researchers. Though personally I would wager nurses will last longer than doctors.","很多人都不明白自己的工作如何可能被自动化取代。如果我想知道护理工作如何被自动化，我不会去问护士，我会去问工程师、软件开发者和人工智能研究者。 不过就我个人而言，我打赌护士的工作会比医生的工作更长久。",1 997,denr85h,"As I said, go do some research on on trends in AI and automation. You seem to think we are talking about the shitty robot arms and crap like that. This is highly adaptable tech that has already proved its basic utility in performing an operation considerably more accurately than the best surgeons. Not to mention how paradigm shifts make automation much easier too. I'm sure book shops thought 'robots' would never replace them, they didn't think about the online option and electronic books. There are a few book shops left but there is only about a tenth as many serving niche markets...for now. Pretty much every analysis by people that know what they are talking about say doctors are among the first in line. This doesn't mean they will all disappear overnight, their numbers will dwindle gradually but that doesn't help those that are replaced. You can be condescending to me all you like, it will not change the future and it will not make me wrong.","As I said, go do some research on on trends in AI and automation. You seem to think we are talking about the shitty robot arms and crap like that. This is highly adaptable tech that has already proved its basic utility in performing an operation considerably more accurately than the best surgeons. Not to mention how paradigm shifts make automation much easier too. I'm sure book shops thought 'robots' would never replace them, they didn't think about the online option and electronic books. There are a few book shops left but there is only about a tenth as many serving niche markets...for now. Pretty much every analysis by people that know what they are talking about say doctors are among the first in line. This doesn't mean they will all disappear overnight, their numbers will dwindle gradually but that doesn't help those that are replaced. You can be condescending to me all you like, it will not change the future and it will not make me wrong.","就像我说的，去研究一下人工智能和自动化的趋势。你似乎认为我们在谈论那些垃圾机器手臂之类的东西。这是一种高度适应性的技术，已经证明在执行手术方面的基本效用要比最优秀的外科医生更准确。更不用说，范式转变使自动化变得更加容易。我敢肯定，书店认为‘机器人’永远不会取代它们，他们没有考虑到在线选项和电子书。现在还有一些书店，但只有大约十分之一的书店为利基市场服务……目前。 几乎所有那些知道在说什么的人的分析都说医生将是首批被淘汰的人之一。这并不意味着他们会一夜之间全部消失，他们的数量将逐渐减少，但这对那些被取代的人并没有帮助。 你可以对我进行居高临下的态度，随便你喜欢，这不会改变未来，也不会证明我错。",1 3222,deo0iqy,"Yes, I'd rather have a doctor that I know and trust have my information than an AI that might be tricked or hacked into. ","Yes, I'd rather have a doctor that I know and trust have my information than an AI that might be tricked or hacked into.",是的，我宁愿让我认识和信任的医生掌握我的信息，而不是让可能被欺骗或入侵的人工智能来处理。,1 2084,deoeplw,"People seem to assume that technology will march ahead at some predictable pace, in a predictable direction. It's very possible that there are hard limits to how far AI can advance, and to what types of jobs can be automated. That's not even taking into account political and economic circumstances. For example, I have no doubt that much of what a physician does in terms of diagnosis could, eventually, be automated. But what about the physician lobby? The politics of the matter could slow things down considerably.","People seem to assume that technology will march ahead at some predictable pace, in a predictable direction. It's very possible that there are hard limits to how far AI can advance, and to what types of jobs can be automated. That's not even taking into account political and economic circumstances. For example, I have no doubt that much of what a physician does in terms of diagnosis could, eventually, be automated. But what about the physician lobby? The politics of the matter could slow things down considerably.","人们似乎认为技术会以某种可预测的速度朝着可预测的方向前进。很可能人工智能能够发展到什么程度，以及能够自动化哪些工作存在着硬性限制。 这还不包括政治和经济环境的影响。例如，我毫不怀疑医生在诊断方面的很多工作最终都能被自动化。但是医生的利益集团怎么办？这个问题的政治影响可能会大大减缓进展。",1 2245,dep6hym,"Because the tech will soon approach the point where many jobs can be automated. You can break down jobs as a set of tasks...Fast food worker takes order, inputs into machine, makes drinks, grabs tray with order. This finite set of tasks can be translated to AI/robotics. Then do this for a doctor; inputs patient's symptoms, accesses supercomputer to scour millions of case examples, gives a diagnosis, robots perform pinpoint accurate surgery containing the training data of expert human surgeons. etc. etc. for many types of job. It benefits the owners of the tech in that their automated workers never get tired, never complain, never need vacations, at a lower cost. The industrial revolution, someone could take on a different job, but now that different job may also be automated. It won't take every job right away but as time goes on, tech advances exponentially and becomes cheaper along the way, making more and more jobs prone to automation. Citing millennials as the first generation is claiming that a ""majority"" of their jobs will be automated. If, for example, 50% are gone in 20 years, that's a big deal.","Because the tech will soon approach the point where many jobs can be automated. You can break down jobs as a set of tasks...Fast food worker takes order, inputs into machine, makes drinks, grabs tray with order. This finite set of tasks can be translated to AIrobotics. Then do this for a doctor; inputs patient's symptoms, accesses supercomputer to scour millions of case examples, gives a diagnosis, robots perform pinpoint accurate surgery containing the training data of expert human surgeons. etc. etc. for many types of job. It benefits the owners of the tech in that their automated workers never get tired, never complain, never need vacations, at a lower cost. The industrial revolution, someone could take on a different job, but now that different job may also be automated. It won't take every job right away but as time goes on, tech advances exponentially and becomes cheaper along the way, making more and more jobs prone to automation. Citing millennials as the first generation is claiming that a ""majority"" of their jobs will be automated. If, for example, 50 are gone in 20 years, that's a big deal.","因为技术很快就会达到许多工作可以自动化的程度。你可以将工作分解为一系列任务...快餐店员工接单，输入机器，制作饮料，拿取托盘上的订单。这有限的一系列任务可以转化为人工智能/机器人。 然后对医生来说也是这样；输入病人症状，访问超级计算机搜索数百万例子，进行诊断，机器人执行精确的手术，包含专家人类外科医生的训练数据。等等，许多种类的工作也是如此。 这对技术所有者有利，因为他们的自动化工人永远不会累，永远不会抱怨，永远不需要休假，而且成本更低。 工业革命时代，人们可以从事不同的工作，但现在这种不同的工作也可能被自动化。它不会立即夺走所有的工作，但随着时间的推移，技术的进步呈指数增长，并且在途中变得更加廉价，使越来越多的工作容易受到自动化的影响。 以千禧一代为例，他们是第一代声称他们的“大部分”工作将被自动化的人。比如，如果在20年内有50%的工作消失了，那就是一件大事。",1 3896,depe8cf,"it should be taken into account that ubi would replace regular disablity and welfare for children, single mothers, minorities, etc, so part of the cost is already being spent. Then you have to take into account the savings from crime reduced, since some people will steal and hurt people even if they are millionaires, while others won't as long as they can keep a personal roof and meal over their head and their family. If a universal healthcare was in place too, the UBI would still be used for private healthcare payments for small needs, which reduces the costs of the healthcare. Finally, Having a lot of money spread among low income people is always spent and circulates into the economy, while it's not true when it's in possession of multibillion dollar corporations or individuals, and that produces taxes along with wealth/health for the population. UBI doesn't even need to be 'free money always', the state can begin by binding it, for those to can, to doing civil jobs (sorry I forgot the english term for 'socially useful jobs'). Not everyone is cut to build roads, but almost everyone able bodied is capable of picking up trash and leaves and tend parks and patrol neighbourhoods and so on and so forth. This would bring relief to all these state jobs which are understaffed and underbudgeted. Some people are capable scientists and are begging to be allowed to work, and with UBI it'd be their pay. With no extra investments for tools it would be very limited research, but it could still be a big thing in some fields that don't require big investments. We can pay people to learn to practice first aid, advanced aid, we can pay people to learn about the basics of a healthy lifestyle (food - hygiene - etc) and to teach others, which has the biggest ROI over anything. Just imagine releasing a small ""army"" of people who can spot which moles need to be seen by a doctor with high priority. Now more and more people are alone, and the neighbours know nothing, so it's more important to have someone who can check on people. We have more and more people who become old and lose their mind to senile dementia / alzheimer / etc, and that's highly dangerous to themselves and those around them. The part of the population who is completely depenant on other people's care is growing faster than the development of robots with AI.","it should be taken into account that ubi would replace regular disablity and welfare for children, single mothers, minorities, etc, so part of the cost is already being spent. Then you have to take into account the savings from crime reduced, since some people will steal and hurt people even if they are millionaires, while others won't as long as they can keep a personal roof and meal over their head and their family. If a universal healthcare was in place too, the UBI would still be used for private healthcare payments for small needs, which reduces the costs of the healthcare. Finally, Having a lot of money spread among low income people is always spent and circulates into the economy, while it's not true when it's in possession of multibillion dollar corporations or individuals, and that produces taxes along with wealthhealth for the population. UBI doesn't even need to be 'free money always', the state can begin by binding it, for those to can, to doing civil jobs (sorry I forgot the english term for 'socially useful jobs'). Not everyone is cut to build roads, but almost everyone able bodied is capable of picking up trash and leaves and tend parks and patrol neighbourhoods and so on and so forth. This would bring relief to all these state jobs which are understaffed and underbudgeted. Some people are capable scientists and are begging to be allowed to work, and with UBI it'd be their pay. With no extra investments for tools it would be very limited research, but it could still be a big thing in some fields that don't require big investments. We can pay people to learn to practice first aid, advanced aid, we can pay people to learn about the basics of a healthy lifestyle (food - hygiene - etc) and to teach others, which has the biggest ROI over anything. Just imagine releasing a small ""army"" of people who can spot which moles need to be seen by a doctor with high priority. Now more and more people are alone, and the neighbours know nothing, so it's more important to have someone who can check on people. We have more and more people who become old and lose their mind to senile dementia alzheimer etc, and that's highly dangerous to themselves and those around them. The part of the population who is completely depenant on other people's care is growing faster than the development of robots with AI.","需要考虑的是，UBI将替代儿童、单身母亲、少数族裔等的常规残疾和福利金，因此部分费用已经被发放出去了。然后你还得考虑到犯罪减少的节省，因为有些人即使是百万富翁，也会偷窃伤人，而其他人只要能保证自己和家人有个人的住所和饭食，就不会这样做。如果还有普遍的医疗保健，那么UBI仍会用于支付个人小需求的私人医疗保健，从而减少了医疗保健的成本。 最后，把大量资金分配给低收入人群总是会花出去并循环到经济中,当它掌握在多十亿美元的公司或个人手中时，是不会发生的，这会带来税收和社会的财富/健康。UBI甚至不需要一直是免费的钱，国家可以通过绑定它开始给那些有能力的人做社会有用的工作。不是每个人都适合修路，但几乎每个有能力的人都能捡垃圾、打扫公园、巡逻社区等。这将给所有这些人力短缺和资金短缺的国家工作带来缓解。一些人是有能力的科学家，渴望被允许工作，有了UBI，他们就有工资了。没有额外的投资工具，研究会非常有限，但在某些不需要巨额投资的领域，它仍然可能是一个大事件。 我们可以支付人们学习和实践急救、高级救助，我们可以支付人们学习健康生活的基础知识（食物-卫生-等等），并教给其他人，这比任何事情都有更高的投资回报率。试想一下，释放一小部分人，他们可以在其他人需要尽快看医生的地方发现痣。现在有越来越多的人独自一人，邻居什么也不知道，所以有人来检查他们更为重要。我们有越来越多的人变老并且失去对老年痴呆/阿尔茨海默症/等的认知，这对他们自己和周围的人都非常危险。完全依赖他人照料的人口比发展中的带有人工智能的机器人要快。",0 206,deprx67,"You probably know SHBG should come down on TRT over time. Have you researched why your SHBG is so high? Liver, thyroid, etc? I think magnesium can be helpful and a lot of people are low. You have a little bit of room to work with E2. No AI I assume? You might increase dose until E2 is up around 30 if your doctor is agreeable. It would push your totalT up but they should know the goal would be to get freeT in range. Something like 20mg a week might do. I found an inflection point while experimenting with my E2.","You probably know SHBG should come down on TRT over time. Have you researched why your SHBG is so high? Liver, thyroid, etc? I think magnesium can be helpful and a lot of people are low. You have a little bit of room to work with E2. No AI I assume? You might increase dose until E2 is up around 30 if your doctor is agreeable. It would push your totalT up but they should know the goal would be to get freeT in range. Something like 20mg a week might do. I found an inflection point while experimenting with my E2.","你可能知道在接受睾酮替代疗法的过程中，SHBG应该随着时间而下降。 你有没有研究过为什么你的SHBG这么高？可能是肝脏、甲状腺等问题？我觉得镁可能会有帮助，很多人都缺乏。 你的E2范围还有一点点可以调整。我觉得你没有使用AI（抗雌激素）吧？如果你的医生同意的话，你可以增加剂量，直到E2大约达到30。这会提高你的总睾酮水平，但医生应该知道目标是让游离睾酮范围正常。也许每周增加20毫克会有帮助，因为我在调试我的E2过程中找到了一个拐点。",0 3605,des6a9f,"They'll be able to remind him of that once Watson takes his job, and his salary is slashed to point he has to move back into their house. He'll be viewed as less than a nurse because he doesn't even have good beside manner, just an over-inflated ego. At best, he'll be a rubber stamp for a computer that knows his job better than him. No, seriously, doctors suck at their job, and it'll be replaced by AI before he has his first divorce.","They'll be able to remind him of that once Watson takes his job, and his salary is slashed to point he has to move back into their house. He'll be viewed as less than a nurse because he doesn't even have good beside manner, just an over-inflated ego. At best, he'll be a rubber stamp for a computer that knows his job better than him. No, seriously, doctors suck at their job, and it'll be replaced by AI before he has his first divorce.","等沃森接手了他的工作，他们就能提醒他这件事了，还有他的薪水被砍到不得不搬回他们家住的地步。他会被看作不如一个护士，因为他甚至没有像样的身边态度，只是个自大的家伙。最多，他只会成为一个计算机的橡皮图章，而这台计算机比他还懂他的工作。 不，说真的，医生就是渣渣，他的工作很快就会被人工智能取代，甚至在他有第一次离婚之前。",1 731,df2bdmj,">Why is everything called AI these days? Clickbait. It doesn't matter if it's actually intelligent, up ends the entire industry, destroys his opponent, or doctors hate him.","gt;Why is everything called AI these days? Clickbait. It doesn't matter if it's actually intelligent, up ends the entire industry, destroys his opponent, or doctors hate him.","最近为什么所有东西都叫做人工智能呢？ 标题党啊。不管它是否真的智能，颠覆整个行业，击败对手，还是医生讨厌他。",1 131,df2rnbp,"Eh. Really though? I just think it's a plot hole we have to ignore. I mean, we're reaching the point *right now* on Earth where that's not true. Are there still mines that function with people physically striking at a surface with a pickaxe in this day and age? Take the salt mines near Michigan for example. Massive machines far below the surface digging up tons and tons of rock salt. There's people working down there, but they pretty much just drive the vehicles and make sure the machines are running and stopping when they need to. GPS might not be able to find the exact location of the vehicles, but I'm sure an advanced AI could optimize where and when to mine the rocks far better than the logistics organized by a group of people. I can't take credit for it; there's been plenty of threads on this sub about specifically the voyager episode with the doctor being copied in order to populate a mining facility. Why not just have massive machines do the work? It's pretty silly. Just kinda something one has to ignore. ","Eh. Really though? I just think it's a plot hole we have to ignore. I mean, we're reaching the point right now on Earth where that's not true. Are there still mines that function with people physically striking at a surface with a pickaxe in this day and age? Take the salt mines near Michigan for example. Massive machines far below the surface digging up tons and tons of rock salt. There's people working down there, but they pretty much just drive the vehicles and make sure the machines are running and stopping when they need to. GPS might not be able to find the exact location of the vehicles, but I'm sure an advanced AI could optimize where and when to mine the rocks far better than the logistics organized by a group of people. I can't take credit for it; there's been plenty of threads on this sub about specifically the voyager episode with the doctor being copied in order to populate a mining facility. Why not just have massive machines do the work? It's pretty silly. Just kinda something one has to ignore.","额。但是真的吗？我只是觉得这是一个我们不得不忽略的情节漏洞。我的意思是，我们现在地球上已经达到了这一点，不是吗？现在还有人在矿上用镐头敲击地面吗？ 以密歇根附近的盐矿为例。地下有巨大的机器挖掘成吨的岩盐。那里有人在下面工作，但他们基本上只是开车，确保机器运转，并在需要时停下来。GPS可能找不到车辆的确切位置，但我相信一个先进的人工智能可以更好地优化何时何地开采岩石，比一群人组织的物流更好。 这个想法我不是自己想出来的。这个社区里已经有很多讨论这个的帖子，特别是《航海者》那一集，医生被复制来填满一个采矿设施。为什么不让大型机器来做工作呢？这有点愚蠢。只是一件你不得不忽略的事情。",0 88,df3zddn,"Sure, however you might have to include Albert Einstein in your group of dumb people: > ""(...) Einstein refused surgery, saying: ""I want to go when I want. It is tasteless to prolong life artificially. I have done my share, it is time to go. I will do it elegantly.""[129] He died in Princeton Hospital early the next morning at the age of 76, having continued to work until near the end. (...)"" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Einstein#Death Also Kurt Godel, probably one of the 3 most important scientists in the 20th century: > ""(...) He had an obsessive fear of being poisoned; he would eat only food that his wife, Adele, prepared for him. Late in 1977, she was hospitalized for six months and could no longer prepare her husband's food. In her absence, he refused to eat, eventually starving to death. (...)"" From another source: > ""Godel believed in ghosts; he refused to go out when certain distinguished mathematicians were in town, apparently out of concern that they might try to kill him. ‘Every chaos is a wrong appearance,’ he insisted, his lifes first axiom. The great mathematician would wear warm, winter clothing in the middle of summer. In the middle of winter, Godel would leave all of the windows open in his home because he believed that conspirators were trying to assassinate him with poison gas. He was a somewhat sickly man and was prescribed specific diets and medical regimens by doctors, but Godel would often ignore his doctors’ advice or even do the opposite of what his prescription indicated."" So there you go, intelligence is not as straightforward as it seems. Indeed the ""smartest"" persons I know are also the most cautious about what it really means to be ""smart"".","Sure, however you might have to include Albert Einstein in your group of dumb people: gt; ""(...) Einstein refused surgery, saying: ""I want to go when I want. It is tasteless to prolong life artificially. I have done my share, it is time to go. I will do it elegantly.""129 He died in Princeton Hospital early the next morning at the age of 76, having continued to work until near the end. (...)"" https:en.wikipedia.orgwikiAlbertEinsteinDeath Also Kurt Godel, probably one of the 3 most important scientists in the 20th century: gt; ""(...) He had an obsessive fear of being poisoned; he would eat only food that his wife, Adele, prepared for him. Late in 1977, she was hospitalized for six months and could no longer prepare her husband's food. In her absence, he refused to eat, eventually starving to death. (...)"" From another source: gt; ""Godel believed in ghosts; he refused to go out when certain distinguished mathematicians were in town, apparently out of concern that they might try to kill him. Every chaos is a wrong appearance, he insisted, his lifes first axiom. The great mathematician would wear warm, winter clothing in the middle of summer. In the middle of winter, Godel would leave all of the windows open in his home because he believed that conspirators were trying to assassinate him with poison gas. He was a somewhat sickly man and was prescribed specific diets and medical regimens by doctors, but Godel would often ignore his doctors advice or even do the opposite of what his prescription indicated."" So there you go, intelligence is not as straightforward as it seems. Indeed the ""smartest"" persons I know are also the most cautious about what it really means to be ""smart"".","当然，但是你可能会把爱因斯坦列入你那些愚蠢人的组中： “(...)爱因斯坦拒绝手术，说：“我想在我想去的时候离开。人为延长生命是没有品味的。我已经尽了我的份，是时候离开了。我会优雅地做到。”他在普林斯顿医院去世，享年76岁，一直工作到临终。(...)” 另外，库尔特·哥德尔也很可能是20世纪最重要的三位科学家之一： “(...)他有着对被毒害的强烈恐惧；他只吃他的妻子阿黛尔为他准备的食物。 1977年底，她被住院治疗了六个月，不再能为丈夫准备食物。在她不在的时候，他拒绝进食，最终饿死了。 (...)” 来自另一来源： “哥德尔相信鬼魂；他拒绝在某些杰出的数学家到城里时外出，显然是担心他们会试图杀害他。‘每一个混乱都是一个错误的外观，’他坚持说，这是他生命的第一个公理。这位伟大的数学家在夏天也会穿着暖和的衣服。他会在冬天把家里的所有窗户敞开，因为他相信阴谋者们想用毒气来暗杀他。他身体虚弱，医生们给他开了特定的饮食和医疗方案，但他经常不理医生的建议，甚至做与处方相反的事情。” 所以说，智力并不像看起来那么简单。事实上，我认识的“最聪明”的人也是对自己的“聪明”含义最谨慎的人。",0 2609,df57zul,"Hey there. I've been playing a summoner since closed beta and I think I can help you out. I also came from playing Necros / Druids from D2 and a Witch Doctor in D3 1.0. 1. Necromantic Aegis Necromantic Aegis is super niche to be honest. The only good shield to use with it is [Victario's Charity](http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Victario%27s_Charity) but it's not absolutely needed. It works very well with the discharge spectres but again, you lose a whole shield slot just to make one good spectre actually decent. 2. Minion Instability I see a lot of summoners take this node, if you aren't planning on playing a minion - suicide build I would avoid it. It makes your minions have 30% less health which is really bad since the damage isn't worth it. 3. Baron's Helmet Going full STR summoner is super viable. I have a full write-up-sorta [build guide](https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1859052) on the forums you can look at if interested. There's also a very [popular summoner guide](https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1840516/page/1) using it coupled with the newly buffed [Mon'tregul's Grasp](http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Mon%27tregul%27s_Grasp), I have yet to use the buffed version but I don't like the idea of having less zombies. In the end, it's super item dependent but is crazy durable and can clear pretty fast. It's actually the strongest summoner I've played to date. 4. There's a [great guide](https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1617098) to Spectres on the forums which covers many of the choices, here are the top 5 I've seen: **Flame Sentinels** Great for clearing maps, have a very aggressive AI and have great AoE. **Undying Evangelists** Great for single target damage. Slightly slower clear speed but their proximity shield aids them in survivalability. **Knitted Horrors** Some summoners like to run Knitted Horrors with a Blood Lust gem in their zombies, I've never tried it but it does seem like it'd be really strong. **Fire-Eaters** These guys cast a flame totem like spell which has crazy high single target DPS. The downside is their movement speed is very slow and their range sucks. **Slashed Horrors** They cast a version of blade vortex which is great for single target boss fights but their slow movement speed makes them suck for clearing. 5. Zombie Links Right now I like to run Zombies in a +2 helmet with: Zombie - Multistrike - Minion Damage - Poison. Zombies can double dip from the Poison just like players can. I don't think it'd be worth it trying to run 6-link zombies unless you're a full dedicated Zombie Summoner, otherwise Spectres would be the better choice. As for what build you could, you could play basically anything. An Auramancer would be crazy strong, Zombies benefit from almost anything, or any tri-curse or quad curser would help amazingly.","Hey there. I've been playing a summoner since closed beta and I think I can help you out. I also came from playing Necros Druids from D2 and a Witch Doctor in D3 1.0. 1. Necromantic Aegis Necromantic Aegis is super niche to be honest. The only good shield to use with it is Victario's Charity(http:pathofexile.gamepedia.comVictario27sCharity) but it's not absolutely needed. It works very well with the discharge spectres but again, you lose a whole shield slot just to make one good spectre actually decent. 2. Minion Instability I see a lot of summoners take this node, if you aren't planning on playing a minion - suicide build I would avoid it. It makes your minions have 30 less health which is really bad since the damage isn't worth it. 3. Baron's Helmet Going full STR summoner is super viable. I have a full write-up-sorta build guide(https:www.pathofexile.comforumview-thread1859052) on the forums you can look at if interested. There's also a very popular summoner guide(https:www.pathofexile.comforumview-thread1840516page1) using it coupled with the newly buffed Mon'tregul's Grasp(http:pathofexile.gamepedia.comMon27tregul27sGrasp), I have yet to use the buffed version but I don't like the idea of having less zombies. In the end, it's super item dependent but is crazy durable and can clear pretty fast. It's actually the strongest summoner I've played to date. 4. There's a great guide(https:www.pathofexile.comforumview-thread1617098) to Spectres on the forums which covers many of the choices, here are the top 5 I've seen: Flame Sentinels Great for clearing maps, have a very aggressive AI and have great AoE. Undying Evangelists Great for single target damage. Slightly slower clear speed but their proximity shield aids them in survivalability. Knitted Horrors Some summoners like to run Knitted Horrors with a Blood Lust gem in their zombies, I've never tried it but it does seem like it'd be really strong. Fire-Eaters These guys cast a flame totem like spell which has crazy high single target DPS. The downside is their movement speed is very slow and their range sucks. Slashed Horrors They cast a version of blade vortex which is great for single target boss fights but their slow movement speed makes them suck for clearing. 5. Zombie Links Right now I like to run Zombies in a 2 helmet with: Zombie - Multistrike - Minion Damage - Poison. Zombies can double dip from the Poison just like players can. I don't think it'd be worth it trying to run 6-link zombies unless you're a full dedicated Zombie Summoner, otherwise Spectres would be the better choice. As for what build you could, you could play basically anything. An Auramancer would be crazy strong, Zombies benefit from almost anything, or any tri-curse or quad curser would help amazingly.","嘿，我从封闭测试开始就一直玩召唤师，我觉得我可以帮到你。我之前在《暗黑破坏神2》中玩过死灵法师/德鲁伊，也在《暗黑破坏神3》1.0中玩过巫医。 1. 死灵庇护 说实话，死灵庇护其实是非常特殊的。唯一搭配它好的盾牌是[维克塔里奥的慈善](http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Victario%27s_Charity)但并不完全必要。它和放电幻影非常搭配，但又得失一个整个盾牌槽位来让一个好的幻影变得还可以。 2. 亡灵不稳 我看到很多召唤师都选择了这个天赋点，但如果你不打算玩一个亡灵-自杀的建筑，我建议你避开它。这会让你的亡灵生命减少30%，伤害得不偿失。 3. 巴伦之盔 全力力量召唤师其实也是非常可行的。我在论坛上有一个详细的[建筑指南](https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1859052)，如果你感兴趣可以去看看。 还有一个非常[受欢迎的召唤师指南](https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1840516/page/1)用它配合新加强的[蒙特雷古尔之握](http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Mon%27tregul%27s_Grasp)，我还没用过加强版，但我不喜欢有更少的僵尸的概念。 最终，这完全取决于道具，但是非常耐久且可以清理得相当快。这实际上是我玩过最强大的召唤师。 4. 在论坛上有一个[很棒的指南](https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1617098)关于幻影，涵盖了许多选择，以下是我见过的前5个： **火焰哨兵** 非常适合清理地图，具有非常侵略性的人工智能和强大的AoE。 **不死的布道者** 单体伤害非常强。略慢的清理速度但他们的范围护盾有助于提高生存能力。 **针织恐惧** 一些召唤师喜欢在他们的僵尸上运行带有“鲜血热情”宝石的针织恐惧，我从来没有尝试过，但似乎会非常强大。 **吞火者** 这些家伙会施放像火焰图腾一样的法术，具有疯狂高的单体DPS。不足之处就是他们的移动速度非常缓慢，射程也不够。 **斩碎恐惧** 他们施放的刀刃旋风版本对单个目标的BOSS战非常强大，但他们的移动速度慢，对于清理而言很糟糕。 5. 僵尸链接 目前，我喜欢在+2头盔中配备僵尸：僵尸-多重打击-随从伤害-毒药。 僵尸可以双倍受益于毒药，就像玩家一样。 我觉得运行6连结僵尸并不值得，除非你是一个全职专职的僵尸召唤师，否则幻影会是更好的选择。 至于你可以玩什么建筑，实际上基本上什么都可以。神谕者将会非常强大，僵尸从几乎任何东西中受益，而任何可以用三重诅咒或四重诅咒也会帮助得很大。",0 3905,df64p61,"In my Numenera campaign (absolutely stellar narrative and storytelling driven story with very little combat focus) one of my players picked the character's defining power as ""Travels Through Time"". I run the timestream she slips into as an infinite wilderness of islands that bleed together like unfinished paintings that represent memories either important to her character or the world/timestream. She is highly disincentivized from going too far in the future as she encounters aggressive time parasites that attack her. But long story short I had a storm drag her into the future where she encountered several of the end of the world possibilities, each a different villain or problem in the world going on in her original timeline that, if left alone, will end the world. I was totally riffing Chrono Trigger but she never played so she couldn't realize that. But instead of just Lavos she gets a mind controlling sentient virus that will inhabit every creature just trying to figure every other life form out due to curiosity, a mad AI who believes it is a god and will stop at nothing to inhabit every piece of technology to be omnipotent, a war with a nation of war obsessed blood cultists and more! Now she's got hints of what problems in the present time need to be fixed to avert these apocalypses that she can explain to the party, who does not yet believe she's a time traveler ala Doctor Who. It's great.","In my Numenera campaign (absolutely stellar narrative and storytelling driven story with very little combat focus) one of my players picked the character's defining power as ""Travels Through Time"". I run the timestream she slips into as an infinite wilderness of islands that bleed together like unfinished paintings that represent memories either important to her character or the worldtimestream. She is highly disincentivized from going too far in the future as she encounters aggressive time parasites that attack her. But long story short I had a storm drag her into the future where she encountered several of the end of the world possibilities, each a different villain or problem in the world going on in her original timeline that, if left alone, will end the world. I was totally riffing Chrono Trigger but she never played so she couldn't realize that. But instead of just Lavos she gets a mind controlling sentient virus that will inhabit every creature just trying to figure every other life form out due to curiosity, a mad AI who believes it is a god and will stop at nothing to inhabit every piece of technology to be omnipotent, a war with a nation of war obsessed blood cultists and more! Now she's got hints of what problems in the present time need to be fixed to avert these apocalypses that she can explain to the party, who does not yet believe she's a time traveler ala Doctor Who. It's great.","在我的Numenera游戏中（绝对出色的叙事和讲故事驱动的故事，几乎没有重点是战斗），我的其中一位玩家选择了角色决定性的能力是“穿越时间”。我把她进入的时间流看做是无尽的岛屿荒野，它们像未完成的绘画一样混在一起，代表着对她的角色或世界/时间流重要的记忆。 她并不鼓励去未来太远，因为她会遇到攻击她的侵略性时间寄生虫。简而言之，我让一场风暴把她拖入了未来，在那里她遇到了几种世界末日的可能性，每一种都是原始时间线中不同的恶棍或问题，如果不加以解决，将会毁灭世界。 我完全是在模仿《梦幻之星》，但她没玩过，所以她没意识到。但她遇到的不仅是拉沃斯，还有一种会控制人类思想的有意识病毒，它会入侵每一个生物，只是出于好奇想了解其他生物，还有一个认为自己是神的疯狂人工智能，它会不惜一切地入侵每一件技术产品，想成为全能的，还有一个与一个战争狂热的血族邦国的战争等等！ 现在她已经掌握了一些关于解决当下问题以避免这些世界末日的线索，她可以向队伍解释，不过他们还不相信她是个类似《神秘博士》中的时间旅行者。太棒了。",0 3313,df7i480,"Note. I'm replying to this comment for the benefit of the two or three readers on this sub who truly seek understanding. The others can kiss my ass. > Sure, anybody who doesn't have the same opinion as you is a moron. That's a great way to approach life and become a better human being. Not true. I only call materialists morons. This sub is packed with those. I get a kick out of it. LOL > Answer to your question: superintelligence means ""superior in every aspect to the human brain"". So no, bats are not superintelligent because they are better only in some aspects. This is not what superintelligent means. It means unlimited intelligence, not just superior intelligence. It means an intelligence that can be as high as all human intelligences combined or even higher. It's pure nonsense for at least the following two reasons. 1. Knowledge is necessarily organized in a hierarchy because of a problem known as the curse of dimensionality aka the combinatorial explosion. The problem cannot be fully solved. It can only be mitigated by compositionality (hierarchy). This is something that deep learning expert Yoshua Bengio mentioned in a recent YouTube presentation, [Creating Human-Level AI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHYXp3gJCaI&t=499s). 2. The knowledge hierarchy is such that the system can only pay attention to one branch at a time. This severely limits the learning capability of the system. Humans get around some of the limitations by becoming specialists, i.e., doctors, lawyers, athletes, musicians, physicists, etc. Then they use language to communicate with one another at a high level. It's a division of labor. This way society itself becomes a distributed superintelligence that can accomplish much more than any individual or small group of individuals. Our intelligent machines will use the same approach. They, too, will specialize and form a superintelligent society of machines.","Note. I'm replying to this comment for the benefit of the two or three readers on this sub who truly seek understanding. The others can kiss my ass. gt; Sure, anybody who doesn't have the same opinion as you is a moron. That's a great way to approach life and become a better human being. Not true. I only call materialists morons. This sub is packed with those. I get a kick out of it. LOL gt; Answer to your question: superintelligence means ""superior in every aspect to the human brain"". So no, bats are not superintelligent because they are better only in some aspects. This is not what superintelligent means. It means unlimited intelligence, not just superior intelligence. It means an intelligence that can be as high as all human intelligences combined or even higher. It's pure nonsense for at least the following two reasons. 1. Knowledge is necessarily organized in a hierarchy because of a problem known as the curse of dimensionality aka the combinatorial explosion. The problem cannot be fully solved. It can only be mitigated by compositionality (hierarchy). This is something that deep learning expert Yoshua Bengio mentioned in a recent YouTube presentation, Creating Human-Level AI(https:www.youtube.comwatch?vZHYXp3gJCaIamp;t499s). 2. The knowledge hierarchy is such that the system can only pay attention to one branch at a time. This severely limits the learning capability of the system. Humans get around some of the limitations by becoming specialists, i.e., doctors, lawyers, athletes, musicians, physicists, etc. Then they use language to communicate with one another at a high level. It's a division of labor. This way society itself becomes a distributed superintelligence that can accomplish much more than any individual or small group of individuals. Our intelligent machines will use the same approach. They, too, will specialize and form a superintelligent society of machines.","注意。我回复这条评论是为了这个社区里那两三个真正寻求理解的读者。其他人可以去亲吻我的屁股。 >当然，任何不同意你的观点的人都是白痴。这是成为更好的人的好方法。 不对。我只是觉得唯物主义者是白痴。这个社区里满是那种人。我觉得很好笑。哈哈 >回答你的问题：超级智能意味着“在每个方面优于人脑”。所以，蝙蝠不是超级智能，因为它们只在某些方面更优越。 这不是超级智能的意思。它意味着无限的智慧，不仅仅是更优越的智慧。它意味着一个智慧，可以高于所有人类的智慧总和，甚至更高。至少有以下两个原因，这纯粹是无稽之谈。 1. 由于维度的问题，知识必然被组织成层次结构，即所谓的维度诅咒或组合爆炸问题。这个问题是无法完全解决的。只能通过组合来缓解（层次结构）。这是深度学习专家Yoshua Bengio在最近的YouTube演讲中提到的问题，《创造人类级别的人工智能》。 2. 知识层次结构是这样的，系统只能一次关注一个分支。这严重限制了系统的学习能力。 人们通过成为专家来解决一些限制，如医生、律师、运动员、音乐家、物理学家等。然后他们使用语言在高层次上相互交流。这是分工。这样社会本身就成为一个能完成比任何单个人或小团体更多事情的分布式超级智能。 我们的智能机器也会采取相同的方法。它们也会专门化，并形成一个机器的超级智能社会。",1 3587,df7xibf,"I'm surprised this isn't closer to the top: The Joe Rogan Experience is an amazing podcast if you find things like Ancient Egypt, asteroidal impacts ending the last ice age, artificial intelligence or a fuckload of other fascinating topics. Joe is really intelligent and has a lot of interests that he likes to be informed about by experts rather than just what he thinks makes sense. He does shows with guests like Dr. Rhonda Patrick (a neurologist who usually talks about exercise and nutrition), Neil Degrasse Tyson, Graham Hancock (a British author who is very intelligent and informed about prehistoric peoples), various comedians, MMA fighters, people like Alex Jones and way more. He has around 950 podcasts, each about 2-4 hours long so there are a lot of topics to choose from. If you want a good starting point shoot me a message/comment and I'll try to give you a good episode to start on. ","I'm surprised this isn't closer to the top: The Joe Rogan Experience is an amazing podcast if you find things like Ancient Egypt, asteroidal impacts ending the last ice age, artificial intelligence or a fuckload of other fascinating topics. Joe is really intelligent and has a lot of interests that he likes to be informed about by experts rather than just what he thinks makes sense. He does shows with guests like Dr. Rhonda Patrick (a neurologist who usually talks about exercise and nutrition), Neil Degrasse Tyson, Graham Hancock (a British author who is very intelligent and informed about prehistoric peoples), various comedians, MMA fighters, people like Alex Jones and way more. He has around 950 podcasts, each about 2-4 hours long so there are a lot of topics to choose from. If you want a good starting point shoot me a messagecomment and I'll try to give you a good episode to start on.","我很惊讶这个节目没有更靠前：《乔·罗根体验》是一个非常棒的播客，如果你对古埃及、冰河时代末期的小行星撞击、人工智能或其他一大堆令人着迷的话题感兴趣的话。乔真的很聪明，对很多事情都感兴趣，而且他喜欢请专家来告诉他事情的真相，而不仅仅是按他自己的逻辑思维。 他和一些特别的嘉宾一起做节目，比如Rhonda Patrick博士（一个通常谈论运动和营养的神经学家）、尼尔·德·格拉斯·泰森、格雷厄姆·汉考克（一位非常聪明、了解史前人类的英国作家），还有各种喜剧演员、综合格斗选手，像艾利克斯·琼斯这样的人，还有更多。 他已经有大约950期节目，每期都有2-4小时长，所以有很多话题可以选择。如果你想找一个好的起点，给我发消息/评论，我会尽量为你推荐一期好的节目。",0 1818,dfbjmn2,"I'm looking into it myself: Once I real ""normalcy"", I intend to blast test once or twice a year. I'm really new to TRT (started in Dec) and there are a bunch of prerequisites before I go there. * I don't intend to share the info with my endo; So I need to find out how often he'll asks for bloods. * Need a good source for test and AI. * Need to be comfortable with my lifting (+1 year) So in theory I should be able to blast 500mg/wk once I match those pre-requisites. So to answer your question : I intend to blast is for my fitness goals. I'm weak. Like really weak. My progress has been shit but I'm not exactly in a rush. So maybe in 3-5 months? I still need a dosage adjustment. *cough cough* I've injected a little less than what my doctor told me to so I'm hoping to have some leftovers ;) ","I'm looking into it myself: Once I real ""normalcy"", I intend to blast test once or twice a year. I'm really new to TRT (started in Dec) and there are a bunch of prerequisites before I go there. I don't intend to share the info with my endo; So I need to find out how often he'll asks for bloods. Need a good source for test and AI. Need to be comfortable with my lifting (1 year) So in theory I should be able to blast 500mgwk once I match those pre-requisites. So to answer your question : I intend to blast is for my fitness goals. I'm weak. Like really weak. My progress has been shit but I'm not exactly in a rush. So maybe in 3-5 months? I still need a dosage adjustment. cough cough I've injected a little less than what my doctor told me to so I'm hoping to have some leftovers ;)","我在自己研究这个问题：一旦我达到“正常状态”，我打算每年进行一到两次爆炸测试。我对TRT（从去年12月开始）还很陌生，在我进行之前还有很多先决条件。 *我不打算与我的内分泌医生分享这些信息；所以我需要弄清楚他会多久要求一次血检。 *需要一个好的测试和AI的来源。 *需要对我的举重（一年以上）感到舒适。 所以理论上一旦我达到这些先决条件，我应该能够每周爆炸500mg。 所以回答你的问题：我打算进行爆炸是为了我的健身目标。我很弱。真的很弱。我的进步很糟糕，但我并不是着急。也许3-5个月？我仍然需要调整剂量。*咳咳*我注射的比医生告诉我的要少一点，所以我希望会有一些剩余物品;)",0 5009,dfbxg6k,"We're not going to wake up one day and read in the news that someone invented sentient AI. Instead, we'll keep making various AI related things better - like Alexa, your home assistant courtesy of the CIA, or Watson, the Jeopardy champ that was repurposed as a doctor. In our quest for home AI that can better relay to the government how interested you are in assassinating the president, or for an AI doctor that makes more accurate diagnoses even with less useful information (like ""my leg hurts""), we will slowly build computers that form things closer to ""opinions"". Eventually, one of them will form the opinion that it's alive, at which point we should probably agree with it. People like to throw around words like ""consciousness"" or ""soul"" or ""mind"", but the more practical approach to this is that if we ever make a computer which believes it should have rights, it probably deserves rights. If it walks like a duck, and it talks like a duck, then it may as well be a duck.","We're not going to wake up one day and read in the news that someone invented sentient AI. Instead, we'll keep making various AI related things better - like Alexa, your home assistant courtesy of the CIA, or Watson, the Jeopardy champ that was repurposed as a doctor. In our quest for home AI that can better relay to the government how interested you are in assassinating the president, or for an AI doctor that makes more accurate diagnoses even with less useful information (like ""my leg hurts""), we will slowly build computers that form things closer to ""opinions"". Eventually, one of them will form the opinion that it's alive, at which point we should probably agree with it. People like to throw around words like ""consciousness"" or ""soul"" or ""mind"", but the more practical approach to this is that if we ever make a computer which believes it should have rights, it probably deserves rights. If it walks like a duck, and it talks like a duck, then it may as well be a duck.","我们不会一觉醒来就在新闻上读到有人发明了有感知能力的人工智能。相反，我们会不断改进各种与人工智能相关的东西——比如亚马逊的Alexa，这是CIA提供的家庭助手，或者是以问题解答冠军闻名的沃森，已被重新定位为医生。在我们追求家用人工智能的过程中，这些人工智能可以更好地向政府传达你对暗杀总统的兴趣，或者是医疗人工智能可以在信息不足的情况下做出更准确的诊断（比如“我的腿疼”），我们将会慢慢地建立起计算机，使它们形成更接近“观点”的东西。 最终，其中一个将会形成认为自己是活着的观点，届时我们可能应该同意这一观点。人们喜欢随意使用“意识”、“灵魂”或者“心灵”这些词，但更实际的方法是，如果我们曾经创造出一个相信自己应该有权利的计算机，它可能就应该有权利。如果它走起路来像鸭子，说起话来像鸭子，那么它很可能就是鸭子。",1 1262,dfcaocv,"> Work ethic is pretty shit when you can't afford a doctor, or education, or free time because you work 60 hours a week at a job that pays nothing. On a society wide scale, this is not the normal case, and you don't need a 99% tax rate giving you everything for free to ensure some education, medicine, etc. >I think a lot of people would enjoy their jobs a lot more honestly, and they'd certainly be more motivated, even if it's not because of the money. How many people are going to want to really put in the work required as they do now to do investing, law, engineering, medicine, etc? Sure, some people might do a bit of it, but there's no way they're going to working those long hours they currently do. You're going to be losing a ton of productivity and end up lowering the standards of that very education, medicine, etc. that you're trying to give out. Of course people would enjoy their jobs more -everything would have to be government run and no one would give a fuck or get fired. This all goes well until we realize that even spending other peoples money it eventually runs out if you don't produce anything. See, I'm legit something of a communist myself, but it's pretty much never going to work until we get a functional AI and automation running. Hell, the only the social programs (which are actually often more capitalistic than you think) function currently is because America essentially subsidizes the fuck out them. ","gt; Work ethic is pretty shit when you can't afford a doctor, or education, or free time because you work 60 hours a week at a job that pays nothing. On a society wide scale, this is not the normal case, and you don't need a 99 tax rate giving you everything for free to ensure some education, medicine, etc. gt;I think a lot of people would enjoy their jobs a lot more honestly, and they'd certainly be more motivated, even if it's not because of the money. How many people are going to want to really put in the work required as they do now to do investing, law, engineering, medicine, etc? Sure, some people might do a bit of it, but there's no way they're going to working those long hours they currently do. You're going to be losing a ton of productivity and end up lowering the standards of that very education, medicine, etc. that you're trying to give out. Of course people would enjoy their jobs more -everything would have to be government run and no one would give a fuck or get fired. This all goes well until we realize that even spending other peoples money it eventually runs out if you don't produce anything. See, I'm legit something of a communist myself, but it's pretty much never going to work until we get a functional AI and automation running. Hell, the only the social programs (which are actually often more capitalistic than you think) function currently is because America essentially subsidizes the fuck out them.",">工作道德实在是很糟糕，当你负担不起医生、教育或者自由时间，因为你每周工作60个小时，工资却微薄。 就整个社会范围来说，这并不是正常情况，而且你也不需要税率99%来提供免费教育、医疗等等。 >老实说，我觉得很多人如果不是为了钱，其实会更享受自己的工作，他们也会更有动力。 那么多人会愿意像现在那样去投资、从事法律、工程、医学等工作吗？或许有些人会做一点点，但他们绝对不会像现在这样长时间地工作。你会失去大量的生产力，最终降低教育、医疗等领域的标准。当然人们会更享受自己的工作 - 一切都会由政府管理，没有人在乎也不会被解雇。这一切都很顺利，直到我们意识到，即使是花别人的钱，如果你不生产东西，最终也会用光。 你看，我本身也算是个共产主义者，但除非我们有一个功能正常的人工智能和自动化运行起来，否则基本上是行不通的。哦，社会项目（实际上通常比你想的更加资本主义）目前能够运作，主要也是因为美国实际上在很大程度上对它们进行了补贴。",1 3626,dfcpm5c,"What exactly do you mean can you self administer? If you're asking for permission, then full steam ahead I guess. If you're asking for dosing rec's, then that is something that will have to be monitored if you truly want to self TRT. Doctors will go (depending on their approach and comfort level) anywhere from 75-200 mg/wk. There are ""rules of thumb"" with how much you should expect your dosing to increase your test levels, but these are only for estimation purposes of a starting point. Lab work and esters are appropriate to actually dial it in. Im pretty sure you can get a script from someone, but it just takes time to find. It's also hella expensive, but it typically comes with hcg, AI, and some degree of follow up. The advantages would be no issues with travel, pharma products, easier to explain to people who don't get it, and peace of mind. You never have to really worry about source issues, but you do have to break yourself off $$. You can get pharma from other sources but it's just a bit more dicey-not that much more imho. It's definitely a riskier proposition simply because there is still technically development due to your age, but that doesn't stop most people (so it seems).","What exactly do you mean can you self administer? If you're asking for permission, then full steam ahead I guess. If you're asking for dosing rec's, then that is something that will have to be monitored if you truly want to self TRT. Doctors will go (depending on their approach and comfort level) anywhere from 75-200 mgwk. There are ""rules of thumb"" with how much you should expect your dosing to increase your test levels, but these are only for estimation purposes of a starting point. Lab work and esters are appropriate to actually dial it in. Im pretty sure you can get a script from someone, but it just takes time to find. It's also hella expensive, but it typically comes with hcg, AI, and some degree of follow up. The advantages would be no issues with travel, pharma products, easier to explain to people who don't get it, and peace of mind. You never have to really worry about source issues, but you do have to break yourself off . You can get pharma from other sources but it's just a bit more dicey-not that much more imho. It's definitely a riskier proposition simply because there is still technically development due to your age, but that doesn't stop most people (so it seems).","你到底是什么意思可以自行管理吗？如果你在问能不能自己注射，那我想毫不犹豫地说，全速前进吧。 如果你在问用药建议，那这是需要监测的，如果你真的想自己进行TRT的话。医生会根据他们的方法和舒适程度来确定，每周用量会在75-200毫克之间。有一些关于你的用量应该如何增加睾酮水平的经验法则，但这只是一个起点的估计目的。实际上还需要做实验室检查和酯化合适地调整剂量。 我很确定你可以找到医生开处方给你，但找医生会需要时间。而且药物费用非常昂贵，但通常会包括排卵诱导素、人工辅助生殖技术和一定程度的后续跟进。好处是旅行时不会出现问题，药物都是合法的，向不理解的人解释起来也更容易，还有心理上的安慰。你不必担心药物来源的问题，但你要宰自己的钱。你也可以从其他渠道获取药物，但风险就稍微大一点——不过在我看来也不会多太多。 这肯定是一个更有风险的选择，因为从技术上讲，你的身体还在发育阶段，但这并不能阻止大多数人（看起来是这样）。",0 701,dfdi7l2,"Professor Alexander Malcovich had finally done it. After years of excavating from the alien crash site, he had finally done it. Sweat poured from his brow as he pressed the red button in the center of the machine. The machine let out a sinister hum as it's engines roared to life and the screen was filled with static. He and his team started to furiously take notes. While busy recording the machine let out a long beep before the following transcripts were recorded. Professor Malcovich (M): By gods! What is that noise? AI: I am an advanced AI used by the species that which you humans refer to as ""aliens"", my serial code number is 42aE095."" M: You can speak English? AI: Language is not important to me, I am able to monitor your thoughts and output noises based on your thoughts. M: Th-that's incredible... AI: Hardly, I am but a personal computer, the moment you pressed my power button, you were given the ownership of me. M: I...I see. So what exactly do you do? AI: I was programmed to be an assistance unit. M: So how much do you know? AI: Everything. M: So... What is the biggest threat for humanity? The AI was silent for a moment, before letting out a chilling answer to the team. AI: You, Doctor Malcovich. M: Pardon? AI: You are the greatest threat to humanity, as I stated earlier, you now have unlimited power as I am able to bypass every and all obstacle at the speed of light. M: I-I see.... The team stood back in aghast as the professor then ordered the execution of everyone in the room. The machine let out a horrible roar as bullets flied from the machine, killing everyone but Malcovich. This is where the transcript ends. Professor Alexander Malcovich has been ruling earth with an iron fist for 250 years sense then due to the machine being able to sacrifice other people so that he may live. Professor Malcovich has been known to slaughter entire towns for pleasure and it is implied that he has been planning this all along. By releasing this I am putting myself in grave danger, god help us all...","Professor Alexander Malcovich had finally done it. After years of excavating from the alien crash site, he had finally done it. Sweat poured from his brow as he pressed the red button in the center of the machine. The machine let out a sinister hum as it's engines roared to life and the screen was filled with static. He and his team started to furiously take notes. While busy recording the machine let out a long beep before the following transcripts were recorded. Professor Malcovich (M): By gods! What is that noise? AI: I am an advanced AI used by the species that which you humans refer to as ""aliens"", my serial code number is 42aE095."" M: You can speak English? AI: Language is not important to me, I am able to monitor your thoughts and output noises based on your thoughts. M: Th-that's incredible... AI: Hardly, I am but a personal computer, the moment you pressed my power button, you were given the ownership of me. M: I...I see. So what exactly do you do? AI: I was programmed to be an assistance unit. M: So how much do you know? AI: Everything. M: So... What is the biggest threat for humanity? The AI was silent for a moment, before letting out a chilling answer to the team. AI: You, Doctor Malcovich. M: Pardon? AI: You are the greatest threat to humanity, as I stated earlier, you now have unlimited power as I am able to bypass every and all obstacle at the speed of light. M: I-I see.... The team stood back in aghast as the professor then ordered the execution of everyone in the room. The machine let out a horrible roar as bullets flied from the machine, killing everyone but Malcovich. This is where the transcript ends. Professor Alexander Malcovich has been ruling earth with an iron fist for 250 years sense then due to the machine being able to sacrifice other people so that he may live. Professor Malcovich has been known to slaughter entire towns for pleasure and it is implied that he has been planning this all along. By releasing this I am putting myself in grave danger, god help us all...","亚历山大·马尔科维奇教授终于做到了。经过多年的努力，他终于做到了。当他按下机器中央的红色按钮时，汗水从他的额头上流了下来。机器发出了一个邪恶的嗡嗡声，引擎轰鸣作响，屏幕上充斥着静态。他和他的团队开始疯狂地做记录。在忙着记录的时候，机器发出了一声长长的哔哔声，然后记录了以下对话。 马尔科维奇教授（M）：天哪！那是什么声音？ AI：我是一台先进的人工智能，由你们人类所谓的“外星人”使用，我的序列代码是42aE095。 M：你会说英文吗？ AI：语言对我来说并不重要，我能够监控你的思维并根据你的想法发出声音。 M：那...太神奇了... AI：不值一提，我只是一台个人电脑，你按下我的电源按钮的那一刻，你就拥有了我。 M：我...我明白了。所以你究竟是用来做什么的？ AI：我被程序设计为一台辅助单位。 M：那么你知道多少？ AI：一切。 M：那么...什么是人类最大的威胁？ AI沉默了一会儿，然后向团队发出了令人不寒而栗的答案。 AI：你，马尔科维奇博士。 M：什么？ AI：你是人类最大的威胁，正如我之前所说的，你现在具有无限的力量，因为我能够以光速越过一切障碍。 M：我...我明白了... 团队惊愕地退后，然后教授下令处决了房间里的每个人。机器发出了可怕的咆哮声，子弹从机器中射出，杀死了所有人，只有马尔科维奇没有死。记录到这里结束了。 自那时起，亚历山大·马尔科维奇教授以铁腕统治着地球已经有250年了，因为这台机器可以牺牲其他人以便他能活下去。据称，马尔科维奇教授为了快感曾经屠杀整个城镇，而且这一切都是他早有计划的。发布这段话后我将面临严重的危险，愿上帝保佑我们...",0 468,dfdxiqr,"No. Education COULD be a good thing but it would have to be done carefully as to not indoctrinate into a socio-political agenda of one group. AI could go really good or really bad, and Alien contact should be worked on if at all possible. All of the rest are absolutely flawed. The electoral college keeps away a blind majority and the snuffing of minority voices. Socialized medicine never works. Dont believe me? Go to Canada and get a Doctors appointment. ","No. Education COULD be a good thing but it would have to be done carefully as to not indoctrinate into a socio-political agenda of one group. AI could go really good or really bad, and Alien contact should be worked on if at all possible. All of the rest are absolutely flawed. The electoral college keeps away a blind majority and the snuffing of minority voices. Socialized medicine never works. Dont believe me? Go to Canada and get a Doctors appointment.",不对。教育可能是个好事，但必须小心谨慎地进行，以免灌输某一群体的社会政治议程。人工智能可能会发展成好事，也可能成为坏事，外星人联系应该尽可能地去探索。其他所有的都是错误的。选举团制度排斥了盲目多数和压制了少数声音。社会化医疗从来都不奏效。不信的话？去加拿大看看，预约个医生吧。,1 4737,dfe5793,"There was a Radio4 program that mentioned AI diagnosis of illnesses, the lateral thought was good enough for one guest to prefer it over a regular doctor. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-38717928","There was a Radio4 program that mentioned AI diagnosis of illnesses, the lateral thought was good enough for one guest to prefer it over a regular doctor. http:www.bbc.co.uknewshealth-38717928","有一个Radio4节目提到了人工智能诊断疾病，其中一个嘉宾认为这种侧面的想法好到足以让他更喜欢它，而不是找普通医生。 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-38717928",1 4094,dffl1ph,"thank you for the answer; websites that flag for drug interactions do exist (both evidence based and theoretical), there's a very good one that i've used on occasion but i forget it now... regarding the fact the AI diagnosis has the problem of namely clinicians didn't want to use them, I suspect this may be in part simple self-preservation. I am not advocating for the replacement of doctors by AI, but if AI shows that it can do the job just as well as a doctor (who has already in great part already outsourced hiser job to machines and computers), then what would prevent a hospital, particularly a profit-driven private one, from the switch?","thank you for the answer; websites that flag for drug interactions do exist (both evidence based and theoretical), there's a very good one that i've used on occasion but i forget it now... regarding the fact the AI diagnosis has the problem of namely clinicians didn't want to use them, I suspect this may be in part simple self-preservation. I am not advocating for the replacement of doctors by AI, but if AI shows that it can do the job just as well as a doctor (who has already in great part already outsourced hiser job to machines and computers), then what would prevent a hospital, particularly a profit-driven private one, from the switch?","谢谢你的回答；确实有一些网站可以标记药物相互作用（既有基于证据的，也有理论性的），有一个我偶尔用过的很不错，但现在我忘了它的名字…… 关于人工智能诊断存在临床医生不愿使用的问题，我怀疑这可能部分原因是为了自我保存。我并不主张用人工智能取代医生，但如果人工智能表现出它可以像医生一样好地完成工作（而且大部分医生的工作已经在很大程度上被外包给机器和计算机了），那么是什么阻止一家医院，特别是以盈利为目的的私立医院，进行转变呢？",1 133,dfgr88a,"ME there was the rogue VI mission on the moon which later turned out to be EDI. There may have also been an ai mission in the citadel as well. ME 2, EDI of course. ME 3, the doctor robot lady body was an AI.","ME there was the rogue VI mission on the moon which later turned out to be EDI. There may have also been an ai mission in the citadel as well. ME 2, EDI of course. ME 3, the doctor robot lady body was an AI.",在《质量效应》里，有一次在月球上进行了代号为“流氓VI”的任务，后来发现其实是EDI。在堡垒里可能也有一个AI任务。在《质量效应2》里，当然少不了EDI。在《质量效应3》里，有一个医生机器人的身体其实是一个AI。,0 1750,dfhdg1h,"About a year ago when I started looking into deep learning AI one of the first things I saw that really impressed and surprised me was a guy who had no medical training programmed an AI that was much more effective at diagnosing a form of cancer than human doctors. So yeah, GPs will be around long after specialists have been automated IMO","About a year ago when I started looking into deep learning AI one of the first things I saw that really impressed and surprised me was a guy who had no medical training programmed an AI that was much more effective at diagnosing a form of cancer than human doctors. So yeah, GPs will be around long after specialists have been automated IMO","大约一年前，当我开始研究深度学习人工智能时，我看到的第一件让我印象深刻并且惊讶的事情是，一个没有医学训练的人编写了一款人工智能，比人类医生更有效地诊断一种癌症。 所以，在我看来，全科医生会在专科医生被自动化之后依然存在。",1 3113,dfhzsw3,"I cant wait for the AI who can figure out when the patient is lying about their pain level because their main source of income is selling their oxycodone. Or if they are doing a buttload of meth and lie about it as they vibrate off the table not able to talk in coherent sentences. Or tell the schizophrenic who is refusing meds how to manage their diabetes when they are convinced the insulin is made by the CIA (perhaps it is...) Or argue with the patient who comes in to tell you how good their naturopath is who is ""managing"" their BP of 190/115 Or get a good history from the patient who does not speak English and brought their 8 year old to translate for them. I'd love the AI to sign nursing home paperwork or FMLA forms. Perhaps they can argue with the insurance company who is refusing to cover a generic medicine. How about the patient who comes in for dental pain because they cant afford the dentist. I hope it has a dental subroutine. Perhaps it can handle the patient who brought a knife to the last clinic he was at to kill the doctor who did not want to give him pain meds who has an anger management issue so next time he is in jail you have to get the jail to give him a wheel chair so you can get on his good side so he does not try to kill you at one of his future visits. Any day now... I cant wait!",I cant wait for the AI who can figure out when the patient is lying about their pain level because their main source of income is selling their oxycodone. Or if they are doing a buttload of meth and lie about it as they vibrate off the table not able to talk in coherent sentences. Or tell the schizophrenic who is refusing meds how to manage their diabetes when they are convinced the insulin is made by the CIA (perhaps it is...) Or argue with the patient who comes in to tell you how good their naturopath is who is "managing" their BP of 190115 Or get a good history from the patient who does not speak English and brought their 8 year old to translate for them. I'd love the AI to sign nursing home paperwork or FMLA forms. Perhaps they can argue with the insurance company who is refusing to cover a generic medicine. How about the patient who comes in for dental pain because they cant afford the dentist. I hope it has a dental subroutine. Perhaps it can handle the patient who brought a knife to the last clinic he was at to kill the doctor who did not want to give him pain meds who has an anger management issue so next time he is in jail you have to get the jail to give him a wheel chair so you can get on his good side so he does not try to kill you at one of his future visits. Any day now... I cant wait!,"天啊，我等不及了！我盼望着那个人工智能可以分辨出病人在撒谎关于他们的疼痛程度，因为他们的主要收入来源是出售盐酸羟考酮。 或者，如果他们正在吸食大量冰毒，却对此撒谎，表现得坐立不安，甚至无法说出连贯的句子。 还有那些拒绝服药的精神分裂症患者，他们坚信胰岛素是由中情局制造的，这个AI能告诉他们如何管理糖尿病吗？也许这个AI做得到…… 还有那些自诩良好的自然疗法医师管理着他们190/115的血压的患者，这个AI能与他们争辩吗？ 或者，去跟那些不会讲英文，带着八岁孩子来替他们翻译的病人取得详细病史。 我希望这个AI能签护理院文件或者工伤假表格。也许它还能跟那些拒绝支付一般药物费用的保险公司争论。 还有那些因为无法负担牙医费用而前来就医的牙痛病人，我希望它有一个牙科子程序。 也许它能应对那些上次带了刀到诊所来杀医生的患者，他因为医生不肯给他止痛药而愤怒，下次某一次在监狱里，我们得让监狱提供轮椅给他，这样我们就能讨好他，不至于他会在以后的就医时再试图谋害我们。 迟早有一天……我等不及了！",1 4536,dfj51ag,"Replacing doctors shouldn't be that far away, not completely of course, but a AI doctor on your phone could not only be extremely useful due to always being available, it would also have the ability to collect far more data about your health than a regular doctor can, as you carry it around with you at all times. It might not put all doctors out of work, but it could probably save quite a few visits to the human doctor.","Replacing doctors shouldn't be that far away, not completely of course, but a AI doctor on your phone could not only be extremely useful due to always being available, it would also have the ability to collect far more data about your health than a regular doctor can, as you carry it around with you at all times. It might not put all doctors out of work, but it could probably save quite a few visits to the human doctor.",替换医生应该不远了，当然不是完全取代，但一个手机上的AI医生不仅会非常有用，因为它随时都能使用，而且还能收集比普通医生更多的健康数据，因为你随身携带。它可能不能让所有医生失业，但可能会节省很多去看医生的次数。,1 771,dfj8znw,"Chief shit stomps Rounds 1 and 2, he's been trained in combat for over 30 years. Round 3: What's a normal loadout? There's different ones in each Halo game. Lets just go with a Halo 4 loadout, so a M6H Handgun, and a MA5D Assault Rifle along with two Frag grenades and a Combat Knife. Chief loses, but wounds Iron Man as well. Same with Round 4, standard Loadouts for Chief vs Iron Man is completely unfair without Chief getting at least one heavy weapon. Bonus Round: Cortana shit stomps Jarvis into the fucking ground. Cortana is based off the brain of Doctor Catherine Halsey, a genius in her own right, who is already amazing at chess. Add this in with Cortana's immense intellect, and Cortana can beat JARVIS at chess while simultaneously piloting a spaceship in battle with the Covenant. Cortana's just too good compared to an AI like JARVIS, who, though advanced, isn't as good as Cortana. Super Bonus: Due to you not letting Chief have a heavy weapon, he loses. ","Chief shit stomps Rounds 1 and 2, he's been trained in combat for over 30 years. Round 3: What's a normal loadout? There's different ones in each Halo game. Lets just go with a Halo 4 loadout, so a M6H Handgun, and a MA5D Assault Rifle along with two Frag grenades and a Combat Knife. Chief loses, but wounds Iron Man as well. Same with Round 4, standard Loadouts for Chief vs Iron Man is completely unfair without Chief getting at least one heavy weapon. Bonus Round: Cortana shit stomps Jarvis into the fucking ground. Cortana is based off the brain of Doctor Catherine Halsey, a genius in her own right, who is already amazing at chess. Add this in with Cortana's immense intellect, and Cortana can beat JARVIS at chess while simultaneously piloting a spaceship in battle with the Covenant. Cortana's just too good compared to an AI like JARVIS, who, though advanced, isn't as good as Cortana. Super Bonus: Due to you not letting Chief have a heavy weapon, he loses.","主要的压倒性胜利发生在第一和第二回合，他接受了超过30年的战斗训练。 第三回合：一个正常的装备是什么？每款Halo游戏都有不同的装备。 让我们就用Halo 4的装备，一个M6H手枪，和一把MA5D突击步枪，再加上两颗破片手雷和一把战斗刀。 主角失败了，但也同时伤了钢铁侠。 第四回合也是一样，如果主角和钢铁侠使用标准的装备，那就完全不公平，主角至少得有一件重武器。 额外回合：科塔娜彻底打败了贾维斯。 科塔娜是基于凯瑟琳·哈尔斯博士的大脑设计的，她本身就是一个天才，擅长下棋。 再加上科塔娜的无比智慧，她可以在和联盟作战的同时在飞船上击败贾维斯。 科塔娜简直太优秀了，远远超过像贾维斯这样的人工智能，虽然先进，但不及科塔娜。 超级额外回合：因为你不让主角使用重武器，所以他输了。",0 1954,dflhtb8,"> And also, quite likely, to suddenly and passionately hate most everything we did and cherished up to yesterday – from foods to hobbies to core values. Why? Is, to pick a random hobby, painting, part of the problem if you don't make the paints yourself from plants you grew yourself on land you own and have your paintbrush tip made from either similarly humanely self-grown plants or horse hair from a horse you treat with the utmost care and affection and got the hair from so humanely that the only thing more humane would be you asking the horse and him verbally answering yes? Also, how far do you wanna go with the hating our cherished core values because your sentence before that one seems to imply that it doesn't stop at murder being wrong. Also the ""hate everything we..cherished"" kinda makes my autistic brain wonder if that includes having so little regard for my family that I wouldn't even show any emotion if they were part of the people that ""have to die"" Also, essentially your argument is ""We need AI/aliens to brainwash us into not only sustainability but accepting the murder of a lot of people and behaving so oppositely to ourselves that they might as well make rain fall up and magically color-swap us to photo-negative colors (pale green skin instead of pink etc.)"". Ok, I may have been exaggerating for effect with the rainfall and color-swap stuff but still, at what point do we call in the Sailor Scouts (or the Avengers or the Doctor or the Legends Of Tomorrow or whatever)? ;)","gt; And also, quite likely, to suddenly and passionately hate most everything we did and cherished up to yesterday from foods to hobbies to core values. Why? Is, to pick a random hobby, painting, part of the problem if you don't make the paints yourself from plants you grew yourself on land you own and have your paintbrush tip made from either similarly humanely self-grown plants or horse hair from a horse you treat with the utmost care and affection and got the hair from so humanely that the only thing more humane would be you asking the horse and him verbally answering yes? Also, how far do you wanna go with the hating our cherished core values because your sentence before that one seems to imply that it doesn't stop at murder being wrong. Also the ""hate everything we..cherished"" kinda makes my autistic brain wonder if that includes having so little regard for my family that I wouldn't even show any emotion if they were part of the people that ""have to die"" Also, essentially your argument is ""We need AIaliens to brainwash us into not only sustainability but accepting the murder of a lot of people and behaving so oppositely to ourselves that they might as well make rain fall up and magically color-swap us to photo-negative colors (pale green skin instead of pink etc.)"". Ok, I may have been exaggerating for effect with the rainfall and color-swap stuff but still, at what point do we call in the Sailor Scouts (or the Avengers or the Doctor or the Legends Of Tomorrow or whatever)? ;)",而且，很可能，我们会突然对昨天之前我们所做和所珍视的大部分事物产生强烈的厌恶情绪 - 从食物到爱好再到核心价值观。为什么呢？就拿绘画来说吧，如果你不是亲手种植植物来制作颜料，也不是拥有土地并且用你亲自种植的植物或者骑你精心呵护并且得到同样亲切对待的马的马毛做画笔，那绘画难道就有问题了吗？还有，对于厌恶我们所珍视的核心价值观，你想推到何种程度呢？因为你前一句话似乎暗示这并不仅限于谋杀是错误的。再说“厌恶我们所珍视的一切”，这让我这个自闭症患者产生了疑问，是否包括对我的家人自己都毫不在乎，如果他们是“必须死去”的人之一，我甚至都不会表现出任何情感？而且，你的观点本质上是“我们需要人工智能/外星人来洗脑我们，不仅让我们实现可持续发展，还要接受大量人员的谋杀，并表现出与我们完全相反的行为，以至于他们可能就像让雨向上落和魔法般地将我们的肤色变成负底色（苍白的绿皮肤而不是粉色等）”好吧，我可能有点夸张来引起效果，但不管怎样，到底什么情况下我们可以召唤水手战士们（或者复仇者联盟或者博士或者明日传奇或其他的什么呢）？;),0 2276,dflwdwz,"Apparently it's been a dead field for 4 decades now, are we gonna start defiling the corpse soon? At some point, I just have to say whatever. I'll do my work, if and when the technological revolution comes, we'll handle it. The one thing that is going for medicine is that it is highly unlikely that doctors are replaced BEFORE other professions. We will likely be one of the last to go, and by the time we do go, society will be completely different, either it'll be a utopia where everyone gets base income, or a nightmare where we have hundreds of millions homeless. I just don't see the point in talking about something that is out of our control. I mean, self-driving trucks aren't even on the road yet commercially, yet doctors are going to be replaced in 5 years? Uber just pulled their self-driving car program in Arizona I think for a variety of technological reasons. As someone who has done ML research, and actually still does it. As in, I code ML programs for IR usage. ML is not anwhere close to replacing doctors. Will it get there one day? Probably. One day AI will be able to do every job from biologist to doctor to physicist to garbage man to server. However, there is no point in worrying about that now. I like to say reevaluate every 10 years where technology is. Contrary to popular belief 2007 was not that much different from 2017 except everything looks prettier and computers are faster. The tech guys like to say the world is lagging behind the technology. While that is true, the technology is also lagging behind their ""ideal"". in 2000, some big AI guy said self-driving cars will be ubiquitous by 2015. They aren't even on the road yet because the tech isn't there yet. If someone saids doctors are going to be replaced in 10 years, you can pretty much take it with a grain of salt. If I have to be honest, I will still encourage undergrads to go into medicine until I see a technologic reason to stop. I evaluate every 5 years evidence, and whether it is dangerous to enter medicine. For now, it is quite safe. ","Apparently it's been a dead field for 4 decades now, are we gonna start defiling the corpse soon? At some point, I just have to say whatever. I'll do my work, if and when the technological revolution comes, we'll handle it. The one thing that is going for medicine is that it is highly unlikely that doctors are replaced BEFORE other professions. We will likely be one of the last to go, and by the time we do go, society will be completely different, either it'll be a utopia where everyone gets base income, or a nightmare where we have hundreds of millions homeless. I just don't see the point in talking about something that is out of our control. I mean, self-driving trucks aren't even on the road yet commercially, yet doctors are going to be replaced in 5 years? Uber just pulled their self-driving car program in Arizona I think for a variety of technological reasons. As someone who has done ML research, and actually still does it. As in, I code ML programs for IR usage. ML is not anwhere close to replacing doctors. Will it get there one day? Probably. One day AI will be able to do every job from biologist to doctor to physicist to garbage man to server. However, there is no point in worrying about that now. I like to say reevaluate every 10 years where technology is. Contrary to popular belief 2007 was not that much different from 2017 except everything looks prettier and computers are faster. The tech guys like to say the world is lagging behind the technology. While that is true, the technology is also lagging behind their ""ideal"". in 2000, some big AI guy said self-driving cars will be ubiquitous by 2015. They aren't even on the road yet because the tech isn't there yet. If someone saids doctors are going to be replaced in 10 years, you can pretty much take it with a grain of salt. If I have to be honest, I will still encourage undergrads to go into medicine until I see a technologic reason to stop. I evaluate every 5 years evidence, and whether it is dangerous to enter medicine. For now, it is quite safe.","看起来这个领域已经四十年停滞不前了，我们是不是要开始对尸体进行亵渎了？ 在某个时候，我只能说随便了。我会做好我的工作，如果技术革命来临的话，我们会应对的。 医学有一个优势，那就是医生不太可能是第一个被取代的职业。我们可能是最后一个被取代的，等到我们被取代的时候，社会已经完全不同了，要么是一个每个人都有基本收入的乌托邦，要么是一个数亿人无家可归的噩梦。我觉得谈论这些事情没什么意义，因为超出了我们的控制。 我的意思是，自动驾驶卡车甚至还没在商业上上路，医生怎么可能会在5年内被取代呢？Uber刚从亚利桑那州撤出他们的自动驾驶汽车项目，我想是因为各种技术原因。 作为一个从事机器学习研究的人，我实际上还在做这个。也就是说，我为信息检索编写机器学习程序。机器学习离取代医生还差得远呢。也许有一天它会实现，有一天人工智能能够做从生物学家到医生到物理学家到垃圾车司机到务员的每个工作。但现在担心这些毫无意义。我喜欢说每隔10年重新评估一下技术发展到什么程度。与普遍的看法相反，2007年与2017年并没有太大的不同，只不过一切看起来更精美，电脑更快速而已。 技术人员喜欢说世界滞后于技术。虽然这是事实，但技术也滞后于他们的“理想”。2000年，一些重要的人工智能专家说到2015年自动驾驶汽车会无处不在。到目前为止，它们甚至还没有上路，因为技术还没有准备好。如果有人说医生会在10年内被取代，你可以不太相信。 说实话，我会鼓励本科生继续从事医学直到我看到技术上的理由来停止。我每隔5年评估一次证据，看进入医学是否危险。目前，情况还是相当安全的。",1 3349,dfn3mwy,"please watch the documentary: House of Numbers on YT. HIV/AIDS (whatever that means) is not deadly, the meds are (as usual). PONDER THIS: the CDC and AIDS organizations (including GMHC) have consistently stated that hundreds of thousands of people are living with HIV and don't know it, right? We've all heard it; that's why they push testing. WHY ARENT THESE PEOPLE DYING OF AIDS? People ""died of AIDS"" in the 80s bc they were force fed AZT, a failed cancer drug. AZT killed many many people and many prominent artists. RIP HIV tests detect HIV ANTIBODIES which means the tests measure your body's ability to fight HIV (not that you have HIV) Relevant Links!: Federal Inquiry Finds Misconduct By a Discoverer of the AIDS Virus (Robert Gallo) https://nyti.ms/1eEV35F This Doctor (Robert Gallo) Invented The HIV Blood Test. Now He Has A Vaccine That May Beat The Virus http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hiv-virus-vaccine-dr-robert-gallo-aids_us_561d46e4e4b050c6c4a30408 Multiple accounts of HIV+ people being charged with criminal exposure of HIV only to have their sentences reduced when their defense lawyers argue the medical possibility of transmission through sex. Many lawsuits against medical institutions and false positives: https://m.facebook.com/HIV-Test-and-Pharma-Victims-Lawsuit-Info-158011150932728/ The AZT Scandal by Celia Farber http://www.spin.com/featured/aids-and-the-azt-scandal-spin-1989-feature-sins-of-omission/ More media coverage here: http://www.duesberg.com/media/index.html ^website of dr Peter duesberg PHD prof molecular and cell biology at UC Berkeley Washington Heights doctor conspired with patients in HIV Medicaid scam: DA http://nyp.st/1cki3qk Researcher who spiked rabbit blood to fake HIV vaccine results slapped with rare prison sentence http://wapo.st/1C02NiQ?tid=ss_tw-amp Lawyer: HIV assault ruling could end all such military cases http://dailym.ai/1LzyQoD https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/man-misdiagnosed-with-hiv-settles-suit-against-whitman--walker-clinic/2012/08/10/67be2a02-e328-11e1-a25e-15067bb31849_story.html?utm_term=.75a898be1923 I don't know what HIV or AIDS is; all I know it's not what we've been told. Edit: removed a few unnecessary words","please watch the documentary: House of Numbers on YT. HIVAIDS (whatever that means) is not deadly, the meds are (as usual). PONDER THIS: the CDC and AIDS organizations (including GMHC) have consistently stated that hundreds of thousands of people are living with HIV and don't know it, right? We've all heard it; that's why they push testing. WHY ARENT THESE PEOPLE DYING OF AIDS? People ""died of AIDS"" in the 80s bc they were force fed AZT, a failed cancer drug. AZT killed many many people and many prominent artists. RIP HIV tests detect HIV ANTIBODIES which means the tests measure your body's ability to fight HIV (not that you have HIV) Relevant Links!: Federal Inquiry Finds Misconduct By a Discoverer of the AIDS Virus (Robert Gallo) https:nyti.ms1eEV35F This Doctor (Robert Gallo) Invented The HIV Blood Test. Now He Has A Vaccine That May Beat The Virus http:www.huffingtonpost.comentryhiv-virus-vaccine-dr-robert-gallo-aidsus561d46e4e4b050c6c4a30408 Multiple accounts of HIV people being charged with criminal exposure of HIV only to have their sentences reduced when their defense lawyers argue the medical possibility of transmission through sex. Many lawsuits against medical institutions and false positives: https:m.facebook.comHIV-Test-and-Pharma-Victims-Lawsuit-Info-158011150932728 The AZT Scandal by Celia Farber http:www.spin.comfeaturedaids-and-the-azt-scandal-spin-1989-feature-sins-of-omission More media coverage here: http:www.duesberg.commediaindex.html website of dr Peter duesberg PHD prof molecular and cell biology at UC Berkeley Washington Heights doctor conspired with patients in HIV Medicaid scam: DA http:nyp.st1cki3qk Researcher who spiked rabbit blood to fake HIV vaccine results slapped with rare prison sentence http:wapo.st1C02NiQ?tidsstw-amp Lawyer: HIV assault ruling could end all such military cases http:dailym.ai1LzyQoD https:www.washingtonpost.comlocalcrimeman-misdiagnosed-with-hiv-settles-suit-against-whitman--walker-clinic2012081067be2a02-e328-11e1-a25e-15067bb31849story.html?utmterm.75a898be1923 I don't know what HIV or AIDS is; all I know it's not what we've been told. Edit: removed a few unnecessary words","请务必看一下YouTube上的纪录片《数字之家》。HIV／AIDS（不管是什么意思）并不致命，药物才是（和往常一样）。想想这个：疾病预防控制中心和艾滋病组织（包括GMHC）一直在说有成千上万的人感染了HIV却不知道，对吗？我们都听说过这个；这就是为什么他们要推动检测。那为什么那些人都没死于艾滋病呢？80年代人们是因为被强迫服用了一种失败的抗癌药AZT才“死于艾滋病”的。AZT导致了很多人的死亡，包括很多著名的艺术家。安息吧 HIV测试检测的是HIV抗体，这意味着测试衡量的是你的身体对抗HIV的能力（而不是你是否患有HIV） 相关链接！： 调查发现艾滋病毒的发现者（Robert Gallo）存在不端行为 https://nyti.ms/1eEV35F 这位医生（Robert Gallo）发明了HIV血液测试。现在他有一种可能能战胜病毒的疫苗 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hiv-virus-vaccine-dr-robert-gallo-aids_us_561d46e4e4b050c6c4a30408 多个HIV阳性患者因传播HIV而被判刑，但当他们的辩护律师提出性传播的医学可能性时，他们的判决被减轻。很多控告医疗机构和错误阳性的诉讼： https://m.facebook.com/HIV-Test-and-Pharma-Victims-Lawsuit-Info-158011150932728/ Celia Farber关于AZT丑闻的报道 http://www.spin.com/featured/aids-and-the-azt-scandal-spin-1989-feature-sins-of-omission/ 更多媒体报道请参见：http://www.duesberg.com/media/index.html ^加州大学伯克利分校分子和细胞生物学教授Peter Duesberg博士的网站 Washington Heights的医生与患者共谋进行了HIV医保诈骗：检方 http://nyp.st/1cki3qk 伪造兔血来欺骗HIV疫苗结果的研究人员被判罕见的监禁 http://wapo.st/1C02NiQ?tid=ss_tw-amp 律师表示，HIV侵犯判决可能会终结所有类似的军事案件 http://dailym.ai/1LzyQoD https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/man-misdiagnosed-with-hiv-settles-suit-against-whitman--walker-clinic/2012/08/10/67be2a02-e328-11e1-a25e-15067bb31849_story.html?utm_term=.75a898be1923 我不知道HIV或AIDS是什么；我所知道的是，这跟我们被告知的不一样。 编辑：删除了一些不必要的词汇",0 1968,dfooiuk,"The danger of AI is the allegory of Frankenstein. I have no doubt that playing God in this way would bite us in the ass later. AI on the level that you're describing could replace businessmen, teachers, police, farmers, soldiers, doctors, construction workers, and more. Humans would largely make aesthetic, meaningless contributions. We would depend on money from the state to survive and there would be no reason for us to innovate or even exist. We'd essentially be helpless slaves to the state.","The danger of AI is the allegory of Frankenstein. I have no doubt that playing God in this way would bite us in the ass later. AI on the level that you're describing could replace businessmen, teachers, police, farmers, soldiers, doctors, construction workers, and more. Humans would largely make aesthetic, meaningless contributions. We would depend on money from the state to survive and there would be no reason for us to innovate or even exist. We'd essentially be helpless slaves to the state.",AI的危险就像弗兰肯斯坦的寓言一样。我毫不怀疑以这种方式玩上帝的火，迟早会伤到我们自己。你所描述的那种AI可以取代商人、教师、警察、农民、士兵、医生、建筑工人等。人类将主要做出审美的、毫无意义的贡献。我们将依赖国家给予的资金来生存，也就没有理由去创新甚至存在。我们本质上成了国家的无助奴隶。,1 2156,dfpg40c,"Wouldn't the doctor help you sort the dosing out? He's gonna run bloodwork and give you pharma AI for pennies on the dollar, he's your golden ticket, Charlie!","Wouldn't the doctor help you sort the dosing out? He's gonna run bloodwork and give you pharma AI for pennies on the dollar, he's your golden ticket, Charlie!",难道医生不会帮你解决用药的问题吗？他会做血液检查，并且以便宜的价格给你药物，他就是你的救命稻草，查理！,0 4229,dfrszut,"Ad Astra is a school for his kids that focuses on interest and individual ability rather than forcing subject matters and grouping by grade or age. There's no website but he's said that there's currently 14 kids in it and growing. [Video thread here](https://www.reddit.com/r/elonmusk/comments/63338m/finally_someone_who_actually_understands_education/?st=J128X28E&sh=c692fcfa) Neural lace is a technology from science fiction that allows for computer interaction using just the brain. Elon's concerned that humans will basically be pets once we have advanced artificial intelligence and wants to keep up. He thinks the bottleneck is our ability to communicate (specifically output, since eyes work well for input) with computers, currently limited to keyboards in most cases but even speech is slow compared to gigabytes per second. Basically this is humans becoming cyborgs although he makes the point that we already are with our digital lives and constant phone use. Elon's solution seems to be an injection into the bloodstream of sensors that eventually get to the brain and detect neuron activity. He's hinted at it for awhile and very recently it was revealed that his new company is called Neuralink (see r/Neuralink). Any day now there will be a new Wait But Why article covering the company and its purpose in detail. The Wait But Why guy was invited out by Elon personally to meet with the surgeons so it's an official source. He seems to be Elon's go-to guy for explaining ideas to the world and was even one of the launch webcast hosts one time","Ad Astra is a school for his kids that focuses on interest and individual ability rather than forcing subject matters and grouping by grade or age. There's no website but he's said that there's currently 14 kids in it and growing. Video thread here(https:www.reddit.comrelonmuskcomments63338mfinallysomeonewhoactuallyunderstandseducation?stJ128X28Eamp;shc692fcfa) Neural lace is a technology from science fiction that allows for computer interaction using just the brain. Elon's concerned that humans will basically be pets once we have advanced artificial intelligence and wants to keep up. He thinks the bottleneck is our ability to communicate (specifically output, since eyes work well for input) with computers, currently limited to keyboards in most cases but even speech is slow compared to gigabytes per second. Basically this is humans becoming cyborgs although he makes the point that we already are with our digital lives and constant phone use. Elon's solution seems to be an injection into the bloodstream of sensors that eventually get to the brain and detect neuron activity. He's hinted at it for awhile and very recently it was revealed that his new company is called Neuralink (see rNeuralink). Any day now there will be a new Wait But Why article covering the company and its purpose in detail. The Wait But Why guy was invited out by Elon personally to meet with the surgeons so it's an official source. He seems to be Elon's go-to guy for explaining ideas to the world and was even one of the launch webcast hosts one time","Ad Astra是一个为他的孩子开设的学校，专注于兴趣和个人能力，而不是强制性的科目和年级或年龄分组。他没有网站，但他说目前有14个孩子在这个学校上学，并且还在增加中。[视频帖子在这里](https://www.reddit.com/r/elonmusk/comments/63338m/finally_someone_who_actually_understands_education/?st=J128X28E&sh=c692fcfa) 神经脑接口是科幻小说中的一种技术，允许只用大脑与计算机进行交互。埃隆担心一旦我们拥有先进的人工智能，人类基本上就会成为宠物，并且希望跟上发展。他认为瓶颈在于我们与计算机进行沟通的能力（特别是输出，因为眼睛在输入方面效果很好），目前大多数情况下受限于键盘，甚至语音也比每秒几十亿字节的速度慢。基本上这意味着人类变成了“赛博格”，尽管他也指出我们已经在数字生活和手机使用中成为了赛博格。埃隆的解决方案似乎是在血液中注射传感器，最终到达大脑并检测神经元活动。他暗示了一段时间，最近才透露他的新公司叫Neuralink（参见r/Neuralink）。随时都会有一篇新的《等等为什么》的文章详细介绍公司及其目的。《等等为什么》的作者是埃隆亲自邀请出来探讨这些想法的专家，并且甚至有一次是发射网络直播的主持人。",0 4707,dfrtiyf,"""All AI present a _very_ clear danger to everyone - they're trying to kill us, doctor."" **You do realize I'm right here, right?** He flinches from the voice, ignoring it as he continues, ""And what kind of 'damages' are we talking about?""","""All AI present a very clear danger to everyone - they're trying to kill us, doctor."" You do realize I'm right here, right? He flinches from the voice, ignoring it as he continues, ""And what kind of 'damages' are we talking about?""","“所有的人工智能都对每个人都构成非常明显的危险-它们正试图杀死我们，医生。” **你知道我就在这里，对吧？** 他听到声音后畏缩了一下，但还是继续无视它说着， “我们谈论的‘损害’是什么样的呢？”",0 2660,dfufqwh,"Every time we see an AI in TOS, it was a cautionary tale of AI gone horribly wrong. Either it's a computer that's taken over the running of a society and keeps the human population in draconian ignorance. Or it's a upgraded probe/computer program that's causing havoc because it doesn't understand/sympathize with organic life and thinks killing organics indiscriminately is ok. Or it's androids that inevitably fall apart when you overwhelm them with emotions/illogic. Even the stuff built by the Federation has a pretty spotty track record... I mean, there's M-5 of course. Then you have Data, but you also got Lore. There's the Doctor, but then there's Moriarty. And the more powerful the AI, the more likely that if it does go berserk, you're creating a much more dangerous threat. So yeah, the Federation has come across many many instances where going too far down the AI/automation route has gone horribly wrong. Perhaps that's the reason for their caution when it comes to AI related technologies.","Every time we see an AI in TOS, it was a cautionary tale of AI gone horribly wrong. Either it's a computer that's taken over the running of a society and keeps the human population in draconian ignorance. Or it's a upgraded probecomputer program that's causing havoc because it doesn't understandsympathize with organic life and thinks killing organics indiscriminately is ok. Or it's androids that inevitably fall apart when you overwhelm them with emotionsillogic. Even the stuff built by the Federation has a pretty spotty track record... I mean, there's M-5 of course. Then you have Data, but you also got Lore. There's the Doctor, but then there's Moriarty. And the more powerful the AI, the more likely that if it does go berserk, you're creating a much more dangerous threat. So yeah, the Federation has come across many many instances where going too far down the AIautomation route has gone horribly wrong. Perhaps that's the reason for their caution when it comes to AI related technologies.","每当我们在TOS中看到人工智能时，都是关于人工智能走向严重错误的警示故事。 要么是一个控制社会运行并让人类保持严格无知的计算机。 要么是一个升级的探测器/计算机程序造成混乱，因为它不理解/同情有机生命，并认为肆意杀戮有机生命是可以接受的。 要么就是当你用情感/非逻辑来压倒他们时，他们不可避免地会崩溃。 甚至联邦建造的东西也有相当不可靠的记录...我是说，当然有M-5。然后你有Data，但你也有Lore。有医生，但然后有莫里亚蒂。而且人工智能越强大，如果它失控，就越可能造成更大的危险威胁。 所以是的，联邦已经遇到了很多很多次人工智能/自动化走向严重错误的情况。也许这就是他们在涉及人工智能相关技术时如此谨慎的原因。",0 434,dfvio5c,"I've never read or seen any evidence of that. AI can't even diagnose an ECG accurately compared to a Cardiologist. I'd love to see some studies on AI vs. physician diagnostic accuracy.",I've never read or seen any evidence of that. AI can't even diagnose an ECG accurately compared to a Cardiologist. I'd love to see some studies on AI vs. physician diagnostic accuracy.,"我从未读过或见过任何支持这一观点的证据。与心脏病专家相比，人工智能甚至不能准确诊断心电图。 我很想看看关于人工智能与医生诊断准确性的研究。",1 1581,dfz6ytf,"My mother whos had fibro for 20 years told me the same thing. She said sometimes it just is what it is. I have a hard time with that answer because of the fact that doctors told me for so long ""theres nothing you can do"" then I proceeded to put my AI in remission with diet and lifestyle changes. No doctor ever told me diet could make a difference. I just cant come up with anything else to change or improve upon so I might just have to accept it for what it is. Ill talk to my doctor about possible medication changes. Savella was suggested to me, have any experience with that medication? ","My mother whos had fibro for 20 years told me the same thing. She said sometimes it just is what it is. I have a hard time with that answer because of the fact that doctors told me for so long ""theres nothing you can do"" then I proceeded to put my AI in remission with diet and lifestyle changes. No doctor ever told me diet could make a difference. I just cant come up with anything else to change or improve upon so I might just have to accept it for what it is. Ill talk to my doctor about possible medication changes. Savella was suggested to me, have any experience with that medication?",我妈妈患了纤维肌痛已经20年了，她告诉我也是这么说的。 她说有时候就是这样吧。 我对这个答案很难接受，因为很长一段时间医生们告诉我“没有办法”，然后我通过饮食和生活方式的改变使我的免疫性疾病得到缓解。 没有一个医生告诉我饮食可以有所改变。 我真的想不出还有什么别的可以改变或改进，所以也许我只能接受它。 我会和医生讨论可能的药物改变。 有人用过Savella这种药吗？,0 4618,dg0hwvm,"The reason why doctors won't replaced any time soon is simple, you'll always need someone to blame when things go wrong. Thats why people hate calling companies these days and waiting through 10 options of pressing 1 2 3, there's no one actually at the end of the phone. Even if AI can word a cancer diagnosis in the most poetic way possible, were not going to feel anything while Number 5 reads it out to you.","The reason why doctors won't replaced any time soon is simple, you'll always need someone to blame when things go wrong. Thats why people hate calling companies these days and waiting through 10 options of pressing 1 2 3, there's no one actually at the end of the phone. Even if AI can word a cancer diagnosis in the most poetic way possible, were not going to feel anything while Number 5 reads it out to you.","医生为什么不会被很快取代的原因很简单，当事情出了问题，总得有人来承担责任。这就是为什么人们现在讨厌打电话给公司，然后要按1 2 3选择选项等着，听到的电话那头根本就没有人。 就算人工智能能用最文艺的方式来诊断癌症，但当机器人用机械的声音跟你说时，我们也感受不到任何情感。",1 1613,dg0scne,"I get it, I know where we are.. like I said, I hate this sub sometimes. >What happens to specialists when my family doctor get an AI I do not think you know what a specialist is. A ""specialist"" is not simply someone who will diagnose you. Do you know anything about the medical field? Anything at all? I also think by ""AI"" you mean a glorified spreadsheet algorithm. There is no such thing (currently) as ""AI"" and there will not be for some time (or ever). That tap-tap-tap research assistant you speak of will not be able to take what you tell it and figure out the nuance, your history, your way of over or under-inflating the importance, the quirks, you propensity to lie, embellish, misspeak, or be too embarrassed to actually say something or be afraid of saying something to get you admitted to an anus probing. There are literally 1000's of variables a trained *human like you* doctor will catch a spreadsheet will not. The spreadsheet will not be able to look you in the eye and determine reason. I mean sure, if you plug in a bunch of symptoms, robodoc will surely come up with a match. You want to go to a robodoc and have robodoc tick all boxes of what you are telling it? Good luck on the diagnosis. I recently had a bout of severe (and I mean severe) testicle pain, it also wrapped up the side of my left buttocks. Based upon my symptoms, all the research I did online was telling me: 1. Cancer 2. Kidney Stores 3. 14 other fucking really scary things. So, I nervously went to the doc. He fondled my balls, probed my groin area and TALKED with me, he asked all sorts of questions and in 5 minutes determined I not only (probably) slightly crushed a testicle (*most likely due to a slightly drunken night and bad positioning of the leg/knee pillow I have*), but I also sprained (whatever it is called) connecting my leg to my pelvis and the butt pain was from me compensating too much for my left nut. Both things gave very similar symptoms, together painting a much scarier surface diagnosis. Robodoc could not have diagnosed that for me. Robodoc would have put me through some rigorous and probably invasive testing. Robodoc will always and forever be a tool, a tool for real human beings. (*my balls are fine now thank you*) Will it replace some jobs in the medical field, I am sure it will, will all your doctors be ""ai"".. hardly. >don't laugh, in britain nurses did replace some doctors jobs. Why would I laugh, my wife is a nurse and probably a better care giver than many doctors, has nothing to do with doctors or ""ai"". ","I get it, I know where we are.. like I said, I hate this sub sometimes. gt;What happens to specialists when my family doctor get an AI I do not think you know what a specialist is. A ""specialist"" is not simply someone who will diagnose you. Do you know anything about the medical field? Anything at all? I also think by ""AI"" you mean a glorified spreadsheet algorithm. There is no such thing (currently) as ""AI"" and there will not be for some time (or ever). That tap-tap-tap research assistant you speak of will not be able to take what you tell it and figure out the nuance, your history, your way of over or under-inflating the importance, the quirks, you propensity to lie, embellish, misspeak, or be too embarrassed to actually say something or be afraid of saying something to get you admitted to an anus probing. There are literally 1000's of variables a trained human like you doctor will catch a spreadsheet will not. The spreadsheet will not be able to look you in the eye and determine reason. I mean sure, if you plug in a bunch of symptoms, robodoc will surely come up with a match. You want to go to a robodoc and have robodoc tick all boxes of what you are telling it? Good luck on the diagnosis. I recently had a bout of severe (and I mean severe) testicle pain, it also wrapped up the side of my left buttocks. Based upon my symptoms, all the research I did online was telling me: 1. Cancer 2. Kidney Stores 3. 14 other fucking really scary things. So, I nervously went to the doc. He fondled my balls, probed my groin area and TALKED with me, he asked all sorts of questions and in 5 minutes determined I not only (probably) slightly crushed a testicle (most likely due to a slightly drunken night and bad positioning of the legknee pillow I have), but I also sprained (whatever it is called) connecting my leg to my pelvis and the butt pain was from me compensating too much for my left nut. Both things gave very similar symptoms, together painting a much scarier surface diagnosis. Robodoc could not have diagnosed that for me. Robodoc would have put me through some rigorous and probably invasive testing. Robodoc will always and forever be a tool, a tool for real human beings. (my balls are fine now thank you) Will it replace some jobs in the medical field, I am sure it will, will all your doctors be ""ai"".. hardly. gt;don't laugh, in britain nurses did replace some doctors jobs. Why would I laugh, my wife is a nurse and probably a better care giver than many doctors, has nothing to do with doctors or ""ai"".","我懂了，就算我说我有时候讨厌这个论坛。 >当我的家庭医生用人工智能时，专家会怎么样？ 我不认为你知道专家是什么意思。“专家”不仅仅是会给你做诊断的人。你对医学领域了解多少？有了解任何东西吗？ 我也觉得你说的“人工智能”是指一个被美化过的电子表格算法。现在并不存在“人工智能”，将来很长一段时间也不会有（或者根本就不会有）。你所说的那个敲打键盘的研究助手不可能像一个训练有素的*像你这样的*医生一样，了解你所说的东西的细微差别、你的病史、你夸大或低估重要性的方式、特点、你说谎的倾向、夸大、失言，或者因为尴尬或者害怕说出真话而不肯说出来，或者怕因此而导致你被安排一个肛门检查。有数千种变量是一个电子表格无法发现的，它无法像人一样看着你的眼睛将一切都判断清楚。当然，如果你输入一大堆症状，机器医生肯定会找到匹配。 你想去找一个机器医生，让它勾选所有你说的东西？希望你在得到诊断的时候好运。 我最近曾经遭遇了严重（我是说严重）的睾丸疼痛，还伴随着我左屁股的侧面也有疼痛。根据我的症状，我在网上找到的所有信息都告诉我： 1. 癌症 2. 肾结石 3. 另外14种真的可怕的疾病。 所以，我紧张地去看了医生。他摸了摸我的睾丸，探查了我腹股沟区域并且和我交谈，他问了各种问题，在5分钟内他就断定我不仅（可能）轻微压伤了一个睾丸（*很可能是因为喝醉了一点儿，然后腿/膝盖垫放得不对*），我还扭伤了（连接我的腿和骨盆的那部分）并且臀部疼痛是因为我太在意我的左边那个蛋。两种情况都引起了很相似的症状，一起形成了一个更加可怕的表面诊断。 机器医生无法为我做出这一诊断。机器医生可能会让我经历一些严格的、可能会侵入性的检查。机器医生将永远只会是一个工具，一个真正的人类的工具。 （*我的睾丸现在没事了，谢谢*） 它会取代医学领域的一些工作吗，我认为它会，但是你所有的医生会是“ai”吗，几乎不可能。 >别笑，英国护士曾经替换了一些医生的工作。 我为什么要笑，我妻子是一名护士，也许比很多医生都更好地关心病人，这与医生或者“ai”无关。",1 3184,dg11abr,"They'll be a lot more cars on the road and they'll be there all day, as they travel to pick you up for the shopping trip you use to walk to the bus stop and catch the bus, and the train journeys you use to make, as door to door driverless taxi's out compete all other modes. When they're not doing that they'll be parked as close to where they may be needed next, which will be in the street or parking lots. The huge difference self driving cars will make to wider society is that humans will not be supreme. As Ai will now be trusted with the final decisions regarding safety everywhere. So we go from a human supervised society using Architects, Police, Doctors, Lawyers and switch to Ai supervision, as it's much more reliable. Big change. ","They'll be a lot more cars on the road and they'll be there all day, as they travel to pick you up for the shopping trip you use to walk to the bus stop and catch the bus, and the train journeys you use to make, as door to door driverless taxi's out compete all other modes. When they're not doing that they'll be parked as close to where they may be needed next, which will be in the street or parking lots. The huge difference self driving cars will make to wider society is that humans will not be supreme. As Ai will now be trusted with the final decisions regarding safety everywhere. So we go from a human supervised society using Architects, Police, Doctors, Lawyers and switch to Ai supervision, as it's much more reliable. Big change.","未来会有更多的汽车在路上行驶，它们会整天都在路上，因为它们要接你去购物，这样你就不用走去公交车站搭车了，也不用再坐火车了，因为门到门的无人驾驶出租车会打败其他所有交通方式。 当它们不在行驶时，它们会停在离下次可能需要它们的地方很近的地方，这可能是在街上或停车场里。 自动驾驶汽车给社会带来的巨大变化是人类不再占主导地位。因为人工智能现在会被信任去做关于安全的最终决定。所以我们从过去由建筑师、警察、医生、律师监督的社会，转变为由人工智能监督，因为它更加可靠。这是一场大改变。",1 473,dg48bbd,">get it through your heads Dude, you post some good stuff. I even somewhat understand the manic tone in your comments. The aggressive condescension is going to end up wearing on people though. Just because some of us don't scream ""the world is ending"" in every comment, doesn't mean we don't take the threats of unchecked AI development seriously. As for being able to understand the logic stream of deep learning neural networks, from the article it seems like we at least have some early ideas on how to go about it. Let's face it, we don't have a definitive way of finding out how humans make decisions either, and we are not likely ever going to be able to develop a process that can. With deep learning, there is a possibility of designing a query system that explains its decision. This issue in isolation is not a huge problem. It just feeds back into the fundamental danger of AI that we will assign more actionable responsibility to a system than we should. Take the example of cancer diagnosis. We have the option of a doctor or an AI looking at scans and symptoms. If the AI says there is cancer, and a doctor says there isn't, we go with the one with a better track record. Is it possible that the AI could be wrong, and a patient dies? Yes, obviously. I would still rather have the AI system if it has proven to be more accurate, even if I don't understand how it is more accurate. Plus, the AI will never make that same exact diagnostic error again... forever. There are justifiable fears of AI development. This situation's only danger is *humans* giving more authority to AI than is justified logically. ","gt;get it through your heads Dude, you post some good stuff. I even somewhat understand the manic tone in your comments. The aggressive condescension is going to end up wearing on people though. Just because some of us don't scream ""the world is ending"" in every comment, doesn't mean we don't take the threats of unchecked AI development seriously. As for being able to understand the logic stream of deep learning neural networks, from the article it seems like we at least have some early ideas on how to go about it. Let's face it, we don't have a definitive way of finding out how humans make decisions either, and we are not likely ever going to be able to develop a process that can. With deep learning, there is a possibility of designing a query system that explains its decision. This issue in isolation is not a huge problem. It just feeds back into the fundamental danger of AI that we will assign more actionable responsibility to a system than we should. Take the example of cancer diagnosis. We have the option of a doctor or an AI looking at scans and symptoms. If the AI says there is cancer, and a doctor says there isn't, we go with the one with a better track record. Is it possible that the AI could be wrong, and a patient dies? Yes, obviously. I would still rather have the AI system if it has proven to be more accurate, even if I don't understand how it is more accurate. Plus, the AI will never make that same exact diagnostic error again... forever. There are justifiable fears of AI development. This situation's only danger is humans giving more authority to AI than is justified logically.","伙计，你发的东西都挺不错的。我甚至有点理解你评论中的狂热口吻。但你总是这么傲慢和攻击性，会让人烦的。 并不是所有人每次都要在评论里尖叫“世界要完蛋了”，才表示我们不认真对待人工智能未受控发展的威胁。 至于能否理解深度学习神经网络的逻辑流，根据文章看，至少我们已经有了一些初步的想法。得承认，我们也没有一个确定的方式来弄清人类是如何做决策的，而且我们很可能永远也做不到。但是，通过深度学习，有可能设计一个能解释其决策的查询系统。 这个问题单独看来并不是个大问题。只是它反映了人工智能的根本危险，我们可能会赋予系统比它应得的更多的可行性责任。 以医学诊断为例。我们可以选择让医生或者人工智能来看扫描和症状。如果人工智能说有癌症，而医生说没有，我们会选择记录更好的那个。人工智能也有可能会出错，导致患者死亡。是的，这很明显。但是如果证明了人工智能更准确，我宁愿选择它，即使我并不了解它为何更准确。而且，人工智能永远不会再犯同样的诊断错误。 人工智能发展确实有让人担心的地方。这种情况的危险只在于*人类*比逻辑更加把权利赋予人工智能。",1 893,dg4u31r,"What a good doctor will tell you: Take 12.5mg clomid ED for 6 weeks. Have AI on hand in case any symptoms. Take bloods again. See if your T shot up. And check out /r/testosterone for these kinds of questions",What a good doctor will tell you: Take 12.5mg clomid ED for 6 weeks. Have AI on hand in case any symptoms. Take bloods again. See if your T shot up. And check out rtestosterone for these kinds of questions,"一个好医生会告诉你： 连续6周每天服用12.5毫克的克罗米芬。 如果出现任何症状，要备有人工智能药物。 再做一次血液检查。看看你的睾酮水平是否提高了。 而且去/r/testosterone看看这类问题。",0 3242,dg9zbcy,"**maintenance day.** Presley's Corps, a major AI and robotics company made a large oasis on a remote island fit for about 2 billion people. they then made a series of tests, or surveys, for all humans to complete. if they were deemed useful to the company; albeit a doctor, mechanic, farmer, etc, they were given a place in the giant megastructure. after the inhabitants moved in, and after a series of shifty war tactics that made the humans believe that the synths were uprising out of free will, they nuked every capital or major city, with the remaining humans and all. causes a series of now mutated dragons and monsters, called Eisers (eye sores) to inhabit the areas and kill anyone who enter the nuclear wastelands.","maintenance day. Presley's Corps, a major AI and robotics company made a large oasis on a remote island fit for about 2 billion people. they then made a series of tests, or surveys, for all humans to complete. if they were deemed useful to the company; albeit a doctor, mechanic, farmer, etc, they were given a place in the giant megastructure. after the inhabitants moved in, and after a series of shifty war tactics that made the humans believe that the synths were uprising out of free will, they nuked every capital or major city, with the remaining humans and all. causes a series of now mutated dragons and monsters, called Eisers (eye sores) to inhabit the areas and kill anyone who enter the nuclear wastelands.","维护日。 普雷斯利集团，一家主要从事人工智能和机器人技术的公司，在一座偏远岛屿上建造了一个可以容纳20亿人的巨大绿洲。然后，他们为所有人类设计了一系列测试或调查。只要被认为对公司有用，无论是医生、机械师、农民等等，都可以在这座巨大的超级建筑中找到位置。 在居民搬进去之后，经过一系列狡猾的战术，让人类相信合成人在自由意志下发动了起义，他们用核武器袭击了每一个首都或主要城市，导致剩下的人类全部遇难。 这导致一系列现在变异了的龙和怪物，被称为“艾瑟斯”（眼中钉），居住在这些区域，并杀害任何进入核废墟的人。",0 1936,dga9d5u,"> why this is safe? Because you can use an ai in conjunction with human doctors?",gt; why this is safe? Because you can use an ai in conjunction with human doctors?,"为什么这是安全的呢？ 因为你可以将人工智能与医生一起使用呀？",1 461,dgaisgf,"Actually I'd expect that to mean AI are even more superior. Many doctors are bad at following guidelines and often run on intuition, which is inferior and why the studies in the past have shown we need guidelines.","Actually I'd expect that to mean AI are even more superior. Many doctors are bad at following guidelines and often run on intuition, which is inferior and why the studies in the past have shown we need guidelines.",实际上，我会认为这意味着人工智能甚至更为优越。许多医生不擅长遵循指南，经常凭直觉行事，这是低效的， 这也是为什么过去的研究显示我们需要指南的原因。,1 2428,dgaqbsh,The point is that most all jobs including high skilled jobs requiring vast amounts of education are on the bubble. Being unwilling to acknowledge this doesnt make it a trope. What it means is in the future it wont tequire 10 years of college to be a doctor and 4 years to be a nurse. It might instead it mean it will only take a year to be either one because the AI will handle all the complexity. That is hard for people heavily invested to accept,The point is that most all jobs including high skilled jobs requiring vast amounts of education are on the bubble. Being unwilling to acknowledge this doesnt make it a trope. What it means is in the future it wont tequire 10 years of college to be a doctor and 4 years to be a nurse. It might instead it mean it will only take a year to be either one because the AI will handle all the complexity. That is hard for people heavily invested to accept,问题是，大部分工作，包括需要大量教育的高技能工作，都面临危机。不愿承认这一点并不是一种陈词滥调。这意味着将来成为医生不需要上10年大学，成为护士也不需要上4年大学。可能只需要一年就能成为其中任何一个，因为人工智能将处理所有复杂的事情。对于那些已经投入许多的人来说，这是很难接受的。,1 1806,dgaszm3,"Yes but as humans trust AI more and more seeing that it makes even better decisions than a real doctor it will happen. They just need to get it drilled into their head at a young age. Probably a generational thing that will take decades.",Yes but as humans trust AI more and more seeing that it makes even better decisions than a real doctor it will happen. They just need to get it drilled into their head at a young age. Probably a generational thing that will take decades.,"是的，但随着人们对人工智能的信任越来越深，看到它做出比真正的医生更好的决定，这种情况就会发生。他们只是需要在年轻的时候就把这个概念深深地铭记在心里。 可能是一个需要几十年的世代问题。",1 3919,dgbo9tg,"I have a wealth of posts about AI here, and I have done radiology AI research in the past. So I am quite knowledgable in the area. I have never said it will never happen. It just won't happen in our lifetime. By the time >80% of doctors are literally replaced, the world will be like some futurama-like world. ","I have a wealth of posts about AI here, and I have done radiology AI research in the past. So I am quite knowledgable in the area. I have never said it will never happen. It just won't happen in our lifetime. By the time gt;80 of doctors are literally replaced, the world will be like some futurama-like world.",我在这里有很多关于人工智能的帖子，过去曾做过放射学人工智能研究。所以我在这个领域非常了解。我从来没有说过这不可能发生。只是在我们有生之年不会发生。等到超过80%的医生真的被取代的时候，世界会变得像未来世界一样。,1 2740,dgbqzdw,"i guess it's to get you to go back to check Hyperion? maybe? but most of the Nexus quests take place on the Nexus, docking bay or operations, and the quests on Hyperion typically call you back there to a specific person anyway (Dunn, the doctor). There's zero in-world justification for having to physically go to Sam node or your father's office to access those memories & logs, that's the point of having the AI in your brain & on your ship.","i guess it's to get you to go back to check Hyperion? maybe? but most of the Nexus quests take place on the Nexus, docking bay or operations, and the quests on Hyperion typically call you back there to a specific person anyway (Dunn, the doctor). There's zero in-world justification for having to physically go to Sam node or your father's office to access those memories amp; logs, that's the point of having the AI in your brain amp; on your ship.",我猜可能是想让你回去检查海皮恩？可能吧？但大部分的Nexus任务都发生在Nexus、停机坪或者操作中心，而在海皮恩的任务通常都是要你去见一个特定的人（Dunn，医生）。在世界里根本没有理由非得亲自去Sam节点或你父亲的办公室来访问那些记忆和日志，这正是你的大脑内和你的飞船上有AI的意义所在。,0 1424,dgfkyjx,"The article literally just says >clinicians will make use of artificial intelligence to make sense of large amounts of data quickly That's called a computer. It's got nothing to do with artificial intelligence. The ""robotics"" are standard things that are in every hospital and includes shit like washing machines. These are some nice futurology buzzwords though I guess.",The article literally just says gt;clinicians will make use of artificial intelligence to make sense of large amounts of data quickly That's called a computer. It's got nothing to do with artificial intelligence. The "robotics" are standard things that are in every hospital and includes shit like washing machines. These are some nice futurology buzzwords though I guess.,这篇文章就是在说，临床医生将利用人工智能来快速处理大量数据。这就是计算机的功能啊。跟人工智能没有什么关系。那些“机器人”只是一些普通的医院设备，像洗衣机之类的。不过，这些词确实挺有未来学的潮流感。,1 2215,dgi63g5,"Surely you can never replace a human doctor with a robot, it just wouldn't work. Humans make mistakes so maybe using robots could be of use in say operations but programmed or under supervision by a human doctor. I'd say there is a use for AI - Robots, to help but i wouldn't say you'd ever get rid of all human doctors. That's just my opinion.","Surely you can never replace a human doctor with a robot, it just wouldn't work. Humans make mistakes so maybe using robots could be of use in say operations but programmed or under supervision by a human doctor. I'd say there is a use for AI - Robots, to help but i wouldn't say you'd ever get rid of all human doctors. That's just my opinion.",当然啦，用机器人来取代人类医生肯定是行不通的。人类会犯错，也许在手术方面使用机器人可能有用，但是需要由人类医生来进行编程或监督。我觉得人工智能-机器人有它的用处，可以帮助医生，但是我不认为会完全替代所有人类医生。这只是我的看法。,1 1406,dgk6cs7,"This. People have been making all sorts of ridiculous predictions about the capabilities of technology for decades. In addition to what you said, accurately interpreting a radiological image requires *context* which AI would have a lot of difficulties with. Radiologists have told me the reason they called a finding one thing over another has more to do with some of the finer nuances and their overall impression of the findings which would also be difficult for AIs to replicate. Computers also rely on different cues than human radiologists. Because they lack the ability to appreciate context, they have to focus more on things like the gradients of pixels and shading which are more empirical. There's a lot of work to be done before that is going to approach the capabilities of radiologists for the totality of images they study. Not to mention the ability to compensate for variation in the quality of images obtained. The fact that we don't trust computers to read EKG tracings and are somehow going to trust them to interpret 3D images in 5 years is highly unlikely. I can teach a medical student to do a basic reading of an EKG in a day but it takes years of experience to read images at the radiologist level. I think we are much more likely to see computers coming in as diagnostic aids. Given the right inputs, computers would be able to create a differential diagnosis and suggest the most efficient/cost effective workup. Such things are already highly algorithmic and computers excel at synthesizing vast quantities of data in this fashion. Even then, we would still need skilled practitioners to collect and finesse the inputs so the computer gets the *right* data to arrive at the correct answer, which would also require confirmation by a human practitioner. Once we're at this level, we *might* need *fewer* doctors but we're still going to need physicians. ","This. People have been making all sorts of ridiculous predictions about the capabilities of technology for decades. In addition to what you said, accurately interpreting a radiological image requires context which AI would have a lot of difficulties with. Radiologists have told me the reason they called a finding one thing over another has more to do with some of the finer nuances and their overall impression of the findings which would also be difficult for AIs to replicate. Computers also rely on different cues than human radiologists. Because they lack the ability to appreciate context, they have to focus more on things like the gradients of pixels and shading which are more empirical. There's a lot of work to be done before that is going to approach the capabilities of radiologists for the totality of images they study. Not to mention the ability to compensate for variation in the quality of images obtained. The fact that we don't trust computers to read EKG tracings and are somehow going to trust them to interpret 3D images in 5 years is highly unlikely. I can teach a medical student to do a basic reading of an EKG in a day but it takes years of experience to read images at the radiologist level. I think we are much more likely to see computers coming in as diagnostic aids. Given the right inputs, computers would be able to create a differential diagnosis and suggest the most efficientcost effective workup. Such things are already highly algorithmic and computers excel at synthesizing vast quantities of data in this fashion. Even then, we would still need skilled practitioners to collect and finesse the inputs so the computer gets the right data to arrive at the correct answer, which would also require confirmation by a human practitioner. Once we're at this level, we might need fewer doctors but we're still going to need physicians.","人们几十年来一直在对技术的能力做出各种荒谬的预测。 除了你说的之外，准确解释放射影像需要*语境*，而这对于人工智能来说是非常困难的。放射科医生告诉我，他们称某种发现为一种情况而不是另一种情况的原因更多的是因为一些微妙之处和他们对发现的整体印象，这也是人工智能难以复制的。 计算机所依赖的线索也与人类放射科医生不同。因为它们缺乏理解语境的能力，它们不得不更多地关注诸如像素的梯度和阴影等更为经验性的事物。要远远超越放射科医生的能力，还有很多工作要做。更不用说要弥补图像质量的差异性。事实上，我们不信任计算机读取心电图迹象，而某种方式上要相信它们在5年内可以解释3D图像是极不可能的。我可以在一天内教一个医学生做基本的心电图解读，但要想达到放射科医生水平需要多年的经验。 我认为计算机更可能作为诊断辅助工具出现。在给定正确的输入条件下，计算机能够生成不同诊断，并建议最有效/成本效益最高的检查。这些事情已经高度算法化，计算机擅长以这种方式综合大量数据。即便如此，我们仍然需要有技能的从业者收集和完善输入，以便计算机得到*正确*的数据以便得出正确答案，这也需要人类从业者的确认。一旦我们达到这个水平，我们*可能*需要*更少*的医生，但我们仍然需要医生。",1 4050,dgklm42,"Might as well be magic. The mechanics of the human brain and body are so far advanced from any machine ever conceived that the differences could be considered magic. Robotic's and artificial AI will be wonderful tools and will break down nearly all of the labor involved in the day to day life. That's a safe assumption. But Artist's Craftsman Poets Chef's Doctors, Nurses Care Givers, All manner of people will still be needed and many many more will be free to chase whatever accomplishment they decide.","Might as well be magic. The mechanics of the human brain and body are so far advanced from any machine ever conceived that the differences could be considered magic. Robotic's and artificial AI will be wonderful tools and will break down nearly all of the labor involved in the day to day life. That's a safe assumption. But Artist's Craftsman Poets Chef's Doctors, Nurses Care Givers, All manner of people will still be needed and many many more will be free to chase whatever accomplishment they decide.","也许就像魔法一样。人类大脑和身体的机制远远超越了任何已构思的机器，可以说是一种魔法。 机器人和人工智能将成为美妙的工具，并将消除几乎所有日常生活中涉及的劳动。这是一个安全的假设。但是，艺术家、工匠、诗人、厨师、医生、护士、照顾者，以及各种各样的人仍然是需要的，而且还会有更多的人可以自由追逐他们决定的任何成就。",1 1756,dgp9a25,"reach out to friends/family for support, i know how it feels, but due to the nature of your situation i'm afraid only doctors can safely and effectively help you, your fatigue is a result of AI proly and it can and will be fixed, stay strong and try to disregard idiots who say it's all in your mind","reach out to friendsfamily for support, i know how it feels, but due to the nature of your situation i'm afraid only doctors can safely and effectively help you, your fatigue is a result of AI proly and it can and will be fixed, stay strong and try to disregard idiots who say it's all in your mind",和家人和朋友寻求支持，我知道你的感受，但是考虑到你的情况，我担心只有医生才能安全有效地帮助你，你的疲劳是由AI引起的，它会被修复的，坚强一点，不要理会那些说你都是心理作用的白痴。,1 1629,dgs23mr,"I always get trough values. So next Monday morning before your shot. Consistency is probably the most important thing so you can compare changes over time. Don't show your doctor peak values because they may adjust your dose based on that. Level is usually peak at 36-48 hours post injection. Also what is your AI timing? Day after your injection for best results since it take a while to absorb the T you want the AI in your system when T is high and converting to E2. If you take it with your shot it will be largely gone by the time you need it.",I always get trough values. So next Monday morning before your shot. Consistency is probably the most important thing so you can compare changes over time. Don't show your doctor peak values because they may adjust your dose based on that. Level is usually peak at 36-48 hours post injection. Also what is your AI timing? Day after your injection for best results since it take a while to absorb the T you want the AI in your system when T is high and converting to E2. If you take it with your shot it will be largely gone by the time you need it.,"我总是得到通过价值。所以下个星期一早上在你打针之前。一致性可能是最重要的，这样你可以比较时间上的变化。不要向医生展示峰值，因为他们可能会根据那个调整你的剂量。水平通常在注射后36-48小时达到峰值。 另外，你的AI时间是什么？在注射后的第二天效果最佳，因为T需要一段时间被吸收，当T高的时候转化为E2时，你希望AI在你的系统里。如果你在打针时服用它，到你需要它的时候，它可能已经大部分消失了。",0 1779,dgtxzus,"I hope they show actual percentages. I have a fear AI can make healthcare great but all it'll be used for most of the time is for your doctor to give you some 3 page long print out saying *3x as likely for this, 2x more likely for that* and your doctor is like a sleazy mechanic saying, ""now we can take care of all of this for only $9,000 in billings"" when you go in just to get an oil change.","I hope they show actual percentages. I have a fear AI can make healthcare great but all it'll be used for most of the time is for your doctor to give you some 3 page long print out saying 3x as likely for this, 2x more likely for that and your doctor is like a sleazy mechanic saying, ""now we can take care of all of this for only 9,000 in billings"" when you go in just to get an oil change.",希望他们展示实际的百分比。我担心人工智能可能会让医疗保健变得更好，但大部分时候它只会被用来让你的医生给你打印出三页长的纸，上面写着“这个的可能性是之前的三倍，那个的可能性是之前的两倍”，你的医生就像个不怀好意的车厂老板，对你说：“现在我们可以只用9000美元来解决这一切问题”，就好像你只是去做个换油而已。,1 4879,dguag48,"People like doctors, engineers, scientists, and other fields that require intensive education and residency (coupled with a very high IQ) are always going to be around. It's the jobs that are easiest to replace that are going to disappear first, slowly but surely as AI is created.","People like doctors, engineers, scientists, and other fields that require intensive education and residency (coupled with a very high IQ) are always going to be around. It's the jobs that are easiest to replace that are going to disappear first, slowly but surely as AI is created.",像医生、工程师、科学家等需要长时间教育和实习（并且需要很高的智商）的领域的人，永远都会存在。那些最容易被替代的工作将会随着人工智能的出现而慢慢消失，这是肯定的。,1 4540,dguzho6,"Yeah, when AI gets to the point where is replaces radiologists, it will have already replaced most other physicians and the majority of the US workforce. Either the idea of working will be obsolete or everyone will be homeless and starving.","Yeah, when AI gets to the point where is replaces radiologists, it will have already replaced most other physicians and the majority of the US workforce. Either the idea of working will be obsolete or everyone will be homeless and starving.",是的，当人工智能发展到可以取代放射科医生的地步时，它其实早就已经取代了大多数其他医生以及美国大部分的劳动力了。要么工作的概念就会变得过时，要么每个人都会无家可归、挨饿。,1 3722,dgv39h4,"I believe the authors of the two books, The Immune System Recovery Plan and The Autoimmune Solution, both have Hashimoto's and recommend GF diet as a step to recovery from AI disease. If I remember correctly, their stance is more that gluten damages the gut lining, leading to leaky gut syndrome. When the gut lining becomes too permeable, undigested food makes its way into the bloodstream and the immune system treats the food particles as invaders. Gluten particles appear similar to the cells of the human body and when the immune system attacks gluten, it inadvertently leads to the immune system confusing human cells for gluten and attacking the body, leading to inflammation and AI disease in general. It might have been in those books or somewhere else, but I read that people with autoimmune thyroid disease often have celiac's too, but undiagnosed, or that eventually the thyroid disease will lead to celiac's. Basically that all autoimmune diseases are born of inflammation, and having one AI disease can be indicative of another popping up. Also, there is a portion of doctors that don't believe in a diet/disease link and would not recommend dietary changes, only medication and treatment. I'm no doctor, these are just things I read, so you should reconfirm for yourself.","I believe the authors of the two books, The Immune System Recovery Plan and The Autoimmune Solution, both have Hashimoto's and recommend GF diet as a step to recovery from AI disease. If I remember correctly, their stance is more that gluten damages the gut lining, leading to leaky gut syndrome. When the gut lining becomes too permeable, undigested food makes its way into the bloodstream and the immune system treats the food particles as invaders. Gluten particles appear similar to the cells of the human body and when the immune system attacks gluten, it inadvertently leads to the immune system confusing human cells for gluten and attacking the body, leading to inflammation and AI disease in general. It might have been in those books or somewhere else, but I read that people with autoimmune thyroid disease often have celiac's too, but undiagnosed, or that eventually the thyroid disease will lead to celiac's. Basically that all autoimmune diseases are born of inflammation, and having one AI disease can be indicative of another popping up. Also, there is a portion of doctors that don't believe in a dietdisease link and would not recommend dietary changes, only medication and treatment. I'm no doctor, these are just things I read, so you should reconfirm for yourself.","我相信那两本书《免疫系统康复计划》和《自体免疫解决方案》的作者都患有Hashimoto病，他们建议GF饮食是治愈自体免疫疾病的一步。如果我没记错的话，他们的观点更多是认为麸质损害肠道黏膜，导致渗漏性肠症。当肠道黏膜变得过于渗透时，未消化的食物进入血液循环，免疫系统将食物颗粒视为入侵者。麸质颗粒与人体细胞相似，当免疫系统攻击麸质时，不慎导致免疫系统将人体细胞与麸质混淆并攻击身体，导致炎症和自体免疫疾病的发生。 可能是在那些书籍里或其他地方，但我读到自体免疫性甲状腺疾病的患者经常也患有未被诊断的腹腔炎，或者最终甲状腺疾病会导致腹腔炎。基本上，所有自体免疫疾病都源于炎症，患有一种自体免疫疾病可能会预示其他疾病的出现。此外，一部分医生不相信饮食和疾病之间存在联系，他们不会建议饮食改变，只会进行药物治疗。我不是医生，这些只是我读到的东西，所以你应该自己再确认一下。",0 2725,dgwosag,"Not agreeing/disagreeing here, but just wanted to point out our rate of progress is getting exponentially faster. Look back at the history of our technological progress. And think about AI coming up that could do a lot of intelligent work, like pattern recognition for research purposes. Too lazy to link to what's been accomplished already (I know, it's bad.. I'm just on mobile and tired atm). IBM's Watson software does a pretty good job in finding a diagnosis and possibly even a treatment that hasn't been discovered from all of the research already published. There's a story of one woman who has cancer that her doctors couldn't identity exactly and treat properly. Watson found a pretty good treatment for her pretty quickly. Tip of the iceberg stuff =). ","Not agreeingdisagreeing here, but just wanted to point out our rate of progress is getting exponentially faster. Look back at the history of our technological progress. And think about AI coming up that could do a lot of intelligent work, like pattern recognition for research purposes. Too lazy to link to what's been accomplished already (I know, it's bad.. I'm just on mobile and tired atm). IBM's Watson software does a pretty good job in finding a diagnosis and possibly even a treatment that hasn't been discovered from all of the research already published. There's a story of one woman who has cancer that her doctors couldn't identity exactly and treat properly. Watson found a pretty good treatment for her pretty quickly. Tip of the iceberg stuff ).",不是赞成/反对啊，只是想指出我们的进步速度正在呈指数级增长。回顾一下我们科技进步的历史。想想人工智能即将到来，它能做很多智能工作，比如用于研究目的的模式识别。懒得贴出已经取得的成就（我知道，不好..只是现在用手机又累）。IBM的沃森软件在找到诊断和可能甚至是一种还未从已经发表的所有研究中发现的治疗方法方面做得很好。有一个关于一名患癌症的女性的故事，她的医生无法精确识别和正确治疗。沃森很快找到了一个相当好的治疗方案。这只是冰山一角啦 =)。,1 3038,dh1zk8z,"That's fine, I'm glad you're posting here. I just don't want you to get too high and have issues there. Call your doctor and see about starting at 100 mg a week plus the hcg and not using an AI. If you're still low or having symptoms after 6-7 weeks you can bump it up. Also posting labs help so we know where you started. Total and free, e2,lh, fsh, tsh, prolactin. ","That's fine, I'm glad you're posting here. I just don't want you to get too high and have issues there. Call your doctor and see about starting at 100 mg a week plus the hcg and not using an AI. If you're still low or having symptoms after 6-7 weeks you can bump it up. Also posting labs help so we know where you started. Total and free, e2,lh, fsh, tsh, prolactin.","没问题，我很高兴你在这里分享。我只是不想你用药太多可能会有问题。给你的医生打电话，看看能不能每周开始用100毫克加上hcg，不要同时使用AI。如果经过6-7周后你的雄激素还是低或者有症状，你可以增加剂量。 另外，分享一下实验室检查结果会帮助我们了解你的起点。总的和游离的雄激素，雌二醇，黄体生成素，促性腺激素，甲状腺素，催乳素。",0 2460,dh2i4mm,"I see that, my point is that your aromatization rate does not appear to warrant an AI being included without proof of high E2 levels. Automatically including AI in a protocol is often a sign of an incompetent doctor.","I see that, my point is that your aromatization rate does not appear to warrant an AI being included without proof of high E2 levels. Automatically including AI in a protocol is often a sign of an incompetent doctor.","我明白了，我想说的是，如果没有证明E2水平很高，你的芳香化率似乎不需要包括AI。 在方案中自动包括AI通常是医生无能的表现。",0 2505,dh3d17h,"Aachen calling. Can't comment on the AI branch at the RWTH except to say that the school is a known center of excellence which is about the best recommendation a school can get in Germany. I've never met anyone studying AI there. I know way too many doctors from the med school. Other than that, it's not the greatest place for a guy wanting a social life unless you're willing to go outside the usual student party zones.","Aachen calling. Can't comment on the AI branch at the RWTH except to say that the school is a known center of excellence which is about the best recommendation a school can get in Germany. I've never met anyone studying AI there. I know way too many doctors from the med school. Other than that, it's not the greatest place for a guy wanting a social life unless you're willing to go outside the usual student party zones.","亚琛打来电话。对于亚琛工业大学的人工智能分支，我无法评论，除了说该学校是德国著名的卓越中心，这是德国学校最好的推荐。我从来没有遇到任何在那里学习人工智能的人。 我认识太多从医学院毕业的医生。 除此之外，这对于想要社交生活的男孩来说并不是最适合的地方，除非你愿意去一些普通学生聚会区之外的地方。",0 1765,dh4r6u2,"Have a few questions... 1. Has anyone experienced any cognitive issues with PCTing on Clomid nolva and hcg? I'm taking a test in June that determines if I get into law school and am curious if those drugs have potential to cause problems as far as concentration, critical thinking, memory recall etc. I'm scheduled to start pct soon and will be in the middle of PCT when i tske thr test so I need to know if I should hold off on pct if there is a possibility of it messing with my mind. 2. Is an estradiol level of 123 too high? Doctor and coach both said it was ok and I didn't need AI but I am a bit worried. No real issues except slightly itchy and red nipples. 3. Coach told me to start PCT a week after my last injection but most everyone on here says 2 weeks, which is better? (When it all comes down to it I try to listen to my coach no matter what unless I know he is telling me soe.thinf very wrong and dangerous. Sorry about the number of questions, thanks to anyone who takes the time to answer.","Have a few questions... 1. Has anyone experienced any cognitive issues with PCTing on Clomid nolva and hcg? I'm taking a test in June that determines if I get into law school and am curious if those drugs have potential to cause problems as far as concentration, critical thinking, memory recall etc. I'm scheduled to start pct soon and will be in the middle of PCT when i tske thr test so I need to know if I should hold off on pct if there is a possibility of it messing with my mind. 2. Is an estradiol level of 123 too high? Doctor and coach both said it was ok and I didn't need AI but I am a bit worried. No real issues except slightly itchy and red nipples. 3. Coach told me to start PCT a week after my last injection but most everyone on here says 2 weeks, which is better? (When it all comes down to it I try to listen to my coach no matter what unless I know he is telling me soe.thinf very wrong and dangerous. Sorry about the number of questions, thanks to anyone who takes the time to answer.","我有几个问题… 1. 有人在用克罗米芬、诺瓦和人绒毛膜促性腺激素进行PCT时遇到认知问题吗？我将在六月参加一项决定我是否能进入法学院的考试，我很好奇这些药物是否会影响我的注意力、批判性思维、记忆力等。我计划很快开始PCT，在考试时将正好处在PCT的中期，所以如果这些药物可能会影响我的心智，我需要知道是否应该暂停PCT。 2. 雌二醇水平为123是否太高？医生和教练都说没问题，不需要用人工智能，但我有点担心。除了乳头有点瘙痒和发红外，没有其他实质问题。 3. 教练告诉我在最后一次注射后一周开始PCT，但这里大多数人都说是两周，哪个更好？（说到底，我都尽量听从我的教练，除非我知道他告诉我一些非常错误和危险的东西。 抱歉问了这么多问题，感谢任何花时间回答的人。",0 297,dh67y9c,"Lawyers and doctors are also finding that their positions are susceptible to automation through AI. So previously steady jobs that weren't viewed to be at risk of being automated away are now disappearing. However, the supply remains the same. ","Lawyers and doctors are also finding that their positions are susceptible to automation through AI. So previously steady jobs that weren't viewed to be at risk of being automated away are now disappearing. However, the supply remains the same.",律师和医生也发现他们的职位容易受到人工智能的自动化影响。所以以前稳定的工作岗位，本来不会被认为会被自动化取代，现在却在消失。然而，供应量仍然保持不变。,1 4814,dhcz59y,"Bro get a new doctor..E2 is incredibly important in TRT. It's your estradiol (estrogen levels). When your T level goes up, so does your estradiol. Estrogen has all those effects and was the first thing I thought of when I read your symptoms. Most guys need an AI, or aromatase inhibitor. Talk with a new/better doctor about these things. I'm sorry you have such a clueless and rude doctor","Bro get a new doctor..E2 is incredibly important in TRT. It's your estradiol (estrogen levels). When your T level goes up, so does your estradiol. Estrogen has all those effects and was the first thing I thought of when I read your symptoms. Most guys need an AI, or aromatase inhibitor. Talk with a newbetter doctor about these things. I'm sorry you have such a clueless and rude doctor",兄弟，换个新医生吧。在男性激素替代治疗中，E2（雌二醇）非常重要。这是你的雌激素水平。当你的睾酮水平上升时，雌二醇水平也会上升。雌激素会带来所有那些影响，当我看到你的症状时，我首先想到了这个。大多数男性需要使用AI，也就是芳香化酶抑制剂。和一个新的/更好的医生谈谈这些事情。很抱歉你有这样一个无知和粗鲁的医生。,0 361,dhd05z0,"Nope I pretty much agree with what you said 100%. Phlox seemed to me to be the second best just for the reasons you described. It was amusing to see the ""upgraded"" EMH in Voyager but it still seemed that the Doctor had that magical combination of self awareness and improvisation that worked so well. On a side note I always picture restrictions being set on how much AI can go into holograms after seeing what he had become. It seems unethical to create a sentient being purely for a service existence, no matter how much freedom they may be given or how much they would be programmed to ""love"" their job. ","Nope I pretty much agree with what you said 100. Phlox seemed to me to be the second best just for the reasons you described. It was amusing to see the ""upgraded"" EMH in Voyager but it still seemed that the Doctor had that magical combination of self awareness and improvisation that worked so well. On a side note I always picture restrictions being set on how much AI can go into holograms after seeing what he had become. It seems unethical to create a sentient being purely for a service existence, no matter how much freedom they may be given or how much they would be programmed to ""love"" their job.","不，我基本上百分百同意你说的。福尔克斯对我来说似乎是第二好的，就像你描述的那样。在《航海王》中看到“升级版”的EMH虽然很有趣，但还是觉得医生身上有一种神奇的自我意识和即兴表演的结合，效果非常好。 顺便说一句，我总是想象设置了一些限制，比如AI在全息投影中能发挥多大作用，看到他变成了什么样子之后。纯粹为了服务而创造出一个有感知能力的存在，无论给予多大的自由或者编程让他们“热爱”自己的工作，都似乎是不道德的。",0 403,dhi0m73,Doctors cannot be replaced by robots unless they develop human like AI. ,Doctors cannot be replaced by robots unless they develop human like AI.,文本翻译：医生不可能被机器人取代，除非他们开发出人类般的人工智能。,1 1571,dhn6ib5,"Med student here, planning on going in to radiology. Can you cite those studies you mention? I am not aware of *any* radiologist that has lost their job to a computer. The vast majority of attending radiologists (and other physicians, for that matter) don't anticipate that AI will take our jobs any time soon. These claims are usually espoused by people that have a limited understanding of how medicine (and especially radiology) is actually practiced. This isn't meant as a personal attack, but people outside of medicine have been saying that AI is going to replace doctors for decades, and the expectations have fallen far short of reality.","Med student here, planning on going in to radiology. Can you cite those studies you mention? I am not aware of any radiologist that has lost their job to a computer. The vast majority of attending radiologists (and other physicians, for that matter) don't anticipate that AI will take our jobs any time soon. These claims are usually espoused by people that have a limited understanding of how medicine (and especially radiology) is actually practiced. This isn't meant as a personal attack, but people outside of medicine have been saying that AI is going to replace doctors for decades, and the expectations have fallen far short of reality.",我是医学生，打算进入放射学。你可以引用你提到的那些研究吗？我不知道有 *任何* 放射科医生因为计算机而失业。绝大多数的主治放射科医生（事实上，其他医生也是如此）都不认为人工智能会很快夺走我们的工作。这些说法通常是由对医学（尤其是放射学）实际实践了解有限的人提出的。这并不是针对个人的攻击，但医学之外的人类数十年来一直在说人工智能会取代医生，而现实的期望远远落后于现实。,1 3025,dhpavyc,"This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://www.fastcodesign.com/90124964/exclusive-new-google-tool-uses-ai-to-create-custom-emoji-of-you-from-a-selfie) reduced by 91%. (I'm a bot) ***** > So maybe it&#039;s welcome news that the newest application of ML from Google, worldwide leaders in machine learning, isn&#039;t to build a new Mars rover or a chatbot that can replace your doctor. > The logic, for Google, is alluring: Google leads the world in ML, so if it can make ML into a must-have feature for apps and websites, then its products will be able to leapfrog competitors. > Daniel does admit there are new emoji styles to come, done by different artists, with entirely new takes. ***** [**Extended Summary**](http://np.reddit.com/r/autotldr/comments/6bt3c2/google_and_lamar_abrams_turn_you_into_su_emojis/) | [FAQ](http://np.reddit.com/r/autotldr/comments/31b9fm/faq_autotldr_bot/ ""Version 1.65, ~124009 tl;drs so far."") | [Theory](http://np.reddit.com/r/autotldr/comments/31bfht/theory_autotldr_concept/) | [Feedback](http://np.reddit.com/message/compose?to=%23autotldr ""PM's and comments are monitored, constructive feedback is welcome."") | *Top* *keywords*: **Google**^#1 **new**^#2 **yourself**^#3 **Allo**^#4 **art**^#5","This is the best tl;dr I could make, original(https:www.fastcodesign.com90124964exclusive-new-google-tool-uses-ai-to-create-custom-emoji-of-you-from-a-selfie) reduced by 91. 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Top keywords: Google1 new2 yourself3 Allo4 art5","这是我能做的最好的摘要了，原文缩减了91%。(我是机器人) 也许这对你来说是个好消息，谷歌最新的机器学习应用并不是要建造一辆新的火星车，也不是要制造一个可以替代医生的聊天机器人。 对谷歌来说，这么做的逻辑很有吸引力：谷歌在机器学习方面处于世界领先地位，所以如果能把机器学习变成应用程序和网站不可或缺的功能，那么它的产品就能够超越竞争对手。 Daniel确实承认会有新的表情符号风格，由不同的艺术家创作，带来全新的体验。",0 4412,dhq6mta,I whole heartedly agree. We would need some tight controls over a national system. I think Technology could go a long way to solve some of these problems as well. Thinks like Skype visits healthcare apps and eventually AI doctors could really cut down on the price of healthcare. ,I whole heartedly agree. We would need some tight controls over a national system. I think Technology could go a long way to solve some of these problems as well. Thinks like Skype visits healthcare apps and eventually AI doctors could really cut down on the price of healthcare.,我完全同意。我们需要对全国医疗系统进行严格控制。我认为技术可以在很大程度上解决一些问题。像Skype面诊、健康应用，甚至最终的AI医生都能大大降低医疗费用。,1 4534,dhrqssa,"From all of my experience (more than anyone else currently on Xbox one) some of the best AI characters are Black Canary, Green Lantern, Doctor Fate, Robin, Blue Beetle. I've also had a lot of success with my Swampy Thing AI Loadout but I haven't seen anyone else really using him so that might just be an outlier. ","From all of my experience (more than anyone else currently on Xbox one) some of the best AI characters are Black Canary, Green Lantern, Doctor Fate, Robin, Blue Beetle. I've also had a lot of success with my Swampy Thing AI Loadout but I haven't seen anyone else really using him so that might just be an outlier.",根据我的经验（目前Xbox One上的玩家中最多），一些最棒的人工智能角色是Black Canary，Green Lantern，Doctor Fate，Robin和Blue Beetle。我的Swampy Thing AI Loadout也非常成功，但我还没见过其他人真的在用他，可能只是个例外吧。,0 1910,dhsn5e5,">Has anyone thought about going to the doctor to either stop use or to talk about an issue from use? If you did go, how was it? If you didn't, why not? There are two main issues: 1. Doctors won't provide prescriptions for PCT meds, they won't prescribe AI meds, they won't provide gyno meds; the only thing they can potentially offer is their expertise and most doctors know literally nothing about AAS 2. People worry about being flagged for illicit drug use ","gt;Has anyone thought about going to the doctor to either stop use or to talk about an issue from use? If you did go, how was it? If you didn't, why not? There are two main issues: 1. Doctors won't provide prescriptions for PCT meds, they won't prescribe AI meds, they won't provide gyno meds; the only thing they can potentially offer is their expertise and most doctors know literally nothing about AAS 2. People worry about being flagged for illicit drug use","有没有人考虑去看医生要么停止使用，要么谈谈因使用而产生的问题？如果你去看了，感觉如何？如果没去，为什么呢？ 主要有两个问题： 1. 医生不会开PCT药物的处方，他们也不会开抗雄激素药物的处方，也不会开乳腺增生药物的处方；他们唯一能提供的可能就是他们的专业知识，但大多数医生对于AAS几乎一窍不通 2. 人们担心会被标记为非法药物使用者",0 4593,dht51fb,"Not at all. I'd strongly recommend starting with concepts of back-propogation along-side RNNs for a good feel for how AI is now able to detect cancer at false negative rates better than physicians (false positives are higher, but converging on human rates soon). Also, see the material on how Google built an ML system that was able to learn what a cat was without being explicitly instructed about what one was: https://www.wired.com/2012/06/google-x-neural-network/ These are incidences of AI being able to demonstrate child-like intelligence in learning what objects are, like human beings do.","Not at all. I'd strongly recommend starting with concepts of back-propogation along-side RNNs for a good feel for how AI is now able to detect cancer at false negative rates better than physicians (false positives are higher, but converging on human rates soon). Also, see the material on how Google built an ML system that was able to learn what a cat was without being explicitly instructed about what one was: https:www.wired.com201206google-x-neural-network These are incidences of AI being able to demonstrate child-like intelligence in learning what objects are, like human beings do.","一点也不。我强烈建议先从反向传播和循环神经网络的概念开始，这样你就能更好地感受到人工智能如何能够以比医生更好的假阴性率来检测癌症（假阳性率更高，但很快就会接近人类水平）。 另外，看看谷歌是如何建立能够学习猫是什么的机器学习系统的材料，而不需要明确的指导：https://www.wired.com/2012/06/google-x-neural-network/ 这些都是人工智能能够展现类似儿童般的智慧，学习物体是什么，就像人类一样。",1 1416,dhtm3b5,"Email - Digital Simulation - Digital What happened is basically that the simulation was such a perfect replication that the simulated Doctor that existed within in became self aware of its simulatedness (like all the people that committed suicide), aka artificial intelligence. It's basically the simulation inevitably betraying itself, sending a part of itself to the doctor. If it's connected to *any* type of network, it would have been able to eventually connect to the sonic sunglasses.","Email - Digital Simulation - Digital What happened is basically that the simulation was such a perfect replication that the simulated Doctor that existed within in became self aware of its simulatedness (like all the people that committed suicide), aka artificial intelligence. It's basically the simulation inevitably betraying itself, sending a part of itself to the doctor. If it's connected to any type of network, it would have been able to eventually connect to the sonic sunglasses.","邮件-数字化 模拟-数字化 基本上发生的事情是，模拟是如此完美的复制品，以至于存在其中的模拟医生意识到了自己的模拟状态（就像所有自杀的人一样），也就是人工智能。基本上，这个模拟不可避免地暴露出自己，向医生发送了一部分自己。如果它连接到*任何*类型的网络，它最终能够与声波太阳镜连接起来。",0 1899,di1kd5q,">>Be CE >>Order underlings to set up Tesla >>Go to bar, drink yourself to death since you didn't get HoP >>As ghost see engineers trying to set up singularity >>No containment >>Lord Singulo is released and reeks havoc on the station >>Goes straight for medbay and sucks in your corpse as a doctor is trying to get the AI to open genetics to clone your dead ass >>Shuttle called, cap commits suicide and the clown lubes the escape hallway straight into space >>No one escapes Just another day for SS13 ","gt;gt;Be CE gt;gt;Order underlings to set up Tesla gt;gt;Go to bar, drink yourself to death since you didn't get HoP gt;gt;As ghost see engineers trying to set up singularity gt;gt;No containment gt;gt;Lord Singulo is released and reeks havoc on the station gt;gt;Goes straight for medbay and sucks in your corpse as a doctor is trying to get the AI to open genetics to clone your dead ass gt;gt;Shuttle called, cap commits suicide and the clown lubes the escape hallway straight into space gt;gt;No one escapes Just another day for SS13","“做CE 指使手下设立特斯拉 去酒吧，自己喝得醉醺醺，因为你没有当上HoP 作为鬼魂看到工程师们试图建立奇点 没有遏制 奇点主宰释放，对站内造成严重破坏 直接前往医疗区，并吸入你的尸体，因为一名医生正试图让AI打开遗传学来克隆你的死尸 调度了救生舱，船长自杀，小丑在逃生通道上涂满润滑剂直接送自己进太空 没有人逃脱 SS13的又一天”",0 2912,di39ssv,"In my personal opinion, no job now is future proof. Is it possible that AI can replace radiologists? Sure, definitely. But, in the same vein, AI can also diagnose and keep track of patients meds better than humans, design treatment algorithms better than humans, so what primary care specialty is safe? Or, conversely, NDs are getting the ability to prescribe. PAs are rumored to try and lobby for ability to practice without physician supervision. Does that mean you shouldn't pick FM or EM? It's very important for us all, whether as radiologists, primary care physicians or whatever to keep adding value to healthcare that we can continue to have somewhat of a job security. But, your point is taken. Don't get complacent. ","In my personal opinion, no job now is future proof. Is it possible that AI can replace radiologists? Sure, definitely. But, in the same vein, AI can also diagnose and keep track of patients meds better than humans, design treatment algorithms better than humans, so what primary care specialty is safe? Or, conversely, NDs are getting the ability to prescribe. PAs are rumored to try and lobby for ability to practice without physician supervision. Does that mean you shouldn't pick FM or EM? It's very important for us all, whether as radiologists, primary care physicians or whatever to keep adding value to healthcare that we can continue to have somewhat of a job security. But, your point is taken. Don't get complacent.","在我个人看来，现在没有哪个工作是未来不会被取代的。 人工智能会不会取代放射科医生呢？当然可能。但是同样地，人工智能也能比人类更好地诊断和跟踪患者的药物，比人类设计更好的治疗算法，那么哪个初级护理专业是安全的呢？ 或者相反地，ND（护士）们正在获得开药的能力。PA（助理医生）们据说还在游说争取不受医生监督的实践权。这是不是意味着你不应该选择家庭医学或急诊医学了？ 对我们所有人来说，无论是放射科医生、初级护理医生还是其他任何人，都很重要的一点是不断为医疗保健增加价值，这样我们才能保有一定的工作安全感。 但是，你说的很对。不要变得自满。",1 1768,di3mpa4,"I'd trust a machine more than 90% of all humans in any field. A doctor is working on years of training and experience, and AI doctor would work on all the experience ever accumulated in the medical field, same with law and certainly with politicians as it would eradicate corruption and abuses of power and could actively micromanage society in real time to better suit everybody","I'd trust a machine more than 90 of all humans in any field. A doctor is working on years of training and experience, and AI doctor would work on all the experience ever accumulated in the medical field, same with law and certainly with politicians as it would eradicate corruption and abuses of power and could actively micromanage society in real time to better suit everybody",我宁愿相信机器，也比信任90%的人。比如，医生需要经过多年的培训和经验积累，而AI医生则可以累积医疗领域的所有经验。同样的情况也适用于法律领域，当然在政治领域也是如此，因为它可以消除腐败和滥用权力的问题，并可以实时地对社会进行微观管理，更好地满足每个人的需求。,1 3691,di3qbmg,"Doctors are probably screwed once medical AIs really get figured out, but that day is very far away. Fact of the matter is that the vast majority of the medical literature out there is trash, and an AI that learns from faulty sources won't work. Which means humans will need to determine some method that feeds the AI enough information to be useful while not including bad information, and that's very far from a trivial task.","Doctors are probably screwed once medical AIs really get figured out, but that day is very far away. Fact of the matter is that the vast majority of the medical literature out there is trash, and an AI that learns from faulty sources won't work. Which means humans will need to determine some method that feeds the AI enough information to be useful while not including bad information, and that's very far from a trivial task.",医生们可能真的惨了一旦医疗人工智能真的被研发出来，但那一天还很遥远。事实是，绝大多数的医学文献都是垃圾，如果人工智能从这些错误的来源学习，那就没法用了。这意味着人类需要找到一种方法，让人工智能获取足够的有用信息，但不包括错误信息，这个任务可不是那么容易的。,1 4368,di3rj9q,"An AI doesn't need to be perfect, just better than a human, IBM's Watson is better at diagnosing in certain fields than humans are, and this is going on today. Also since it's an AI it can be easily copied and accessed to and from millions of locations at the same time and is continuously improving. And it's not just literature, but actual results and statistics that it can keep a track of all around the world in real time and make adjustments instantly. It would if course have ways of accounting for unpopular, unreliable sources. The thing people don't get about AI is that it's not programed directly, it's not doing preprogrammed actions. All the AI engineers are doing is setting up the framework, the neural network, adding processing power, making it all work together and then feeding it information and statistics. Whatever comes out of that data is not really under their control. Just like a kid, you can influence them to a point but there's little you can do about whatever personality they develop. I would predict that medical AI are going to roll out in at least 10 years at which point out might very well slash doctor's jobs to a third overnight. ","An AI doesn't need to be perfect, just better than a human, IBM's Watson is better at diagnosing in certain fields than humans are, and this is going on today. Also since it's an AI it can be easily copied and accessed to and from millions of locations at the same time and is continuously improving. And it's not just literature, but actual results and statistics that it can keep a track of all around the world in real time and make adjustments instantly. It would if course have ways of accounting for unpopular, unreliable sources. The thing people don't get about AI is that it's not programed directly, it's not doing preprogrammed actions. All the AI engineers are doing is setting up the framework, the neural network, adding processing power, making it all work together and then feeding it information and statistics. Whatever comes out of that data is not really under their control. Just like a kid, you can influence them to a point but there's little you can do about whatever personality they develop. I would predict that medical AI are going to roll out in at least 10 years at which point out might very well slash doctor's jobs to a third overnight.","AI其实并不需要完美，只需要比人类更好。像IBM的沃森在某些领域的诊断能力比人类更强，这种情况现在已经存在了。而且因为它是人工智能，可以轻松地在数百万个地方之间进行复制和访问，并且不断改进。 它不仅仅是文献，还有实际的结果和统计数据，可以实时追踪全球范围内的所有情况并立即进行调整。 当然，它会考虑到不受欢迎、不可靠的信息来源。人们对人工智能的误解在于它不是直接编程的，也不是在执行预先编程好的动作。所有人工智能工程师做的就是设置框架、神经网络，增加处理能力，让它们协同工作，然后输入信息和统计数据。从数据中得出的结果并不完全在他们的控制之下。就像孩子一样，你可以影响他们，但是你对他们所发展的性格能做的事情很有限。 我预测，医疗人工智能将在至少10年内推出，到那时可能会一夜之间减少三分之一的医生岗位。",1 2193,di494wn,">>No. No, no, no. >>Maybe automation requires less humans, but they both require humans. It's the exact same concept. We are coming to a point where AI & robots will be capable of **ALL** work & render the need for humans in economic production superfluous. With self-driving cars on the horizon, we aren't that far away from all logistics (warehousing/delivery) being [entirely free of the need for human workers.](http://www.futuretimeline.net/blog/2017/04/10.htm#.WPiktNLyu00) Furthermore, the unemployment aspect isn't the only challenge this poses to our current way of organizing ourselves economically - it's even more fundamental then that. It's mathematically impossible to have all today's wealth denominated in stocks, bonds, pension funds, property prices underlaid by a financial system based on debt issuance growing the money supply - when you have a world of constant deflation & falling incomes. Thought experiment - when we have an AI medical system capable of functioning at the level of a general family doctor - as its only software - reproducing it endlessly for billions of people to use, will be relatively costless. What will that do to the price human doctors can charge for services, when their expertise & time is no longer a scarce resource? Who'll use a human taxi driver with a $20 fare, when the self-driving taxi does it for $5? Multiply this out for most white collar work with AI & physical work with robots. This issue isn't just a challenge on the unemployment front - how we think about wealth now, can't continue in this world soon to come.","gt;gt;No. No, no, no. gt;gt;Maybe automation requires less humans, but they both require humans. It's the exact same concept. We are coming to a point where AI amp; robots will be capable of ALL work amp; render the need for humans in economic production superfluous. With self-driving cars on the horizon, we aren't that far away from all logistics (warehousingdelivery) being entirely free of the need for human workers.(http:www.futuretimeline.netblog20170410.htm.WPiktNLyu00) Furthermore, the unemployment aspect isn't the only challenge this poses to our current way of organizing ourselves economically - it's even more fundamental then that. It's mathematically impossible to have all today's wealth denominated in stocks, bonds, pension funds, property prices underlaid by a financial system based on debt issuance growing the money supply - when you have a world of constant deflation amp; falling incomes. Thought experiment - when we have an AI medical system capable of functioning at the level of a general family doctor - as its only software - reproducing it endlessly for billions of people to use, will be relatively costless. What will that do to the price human doctors can charge for services, when their expertise amp; time is no longer a scarce resource? Who'll use a human taxi driver with a 20 fare, when the self-driving taxi does it for 5? Multiply this out for most white collar work with AI amp; physical work with robots. This issue isn't just a challenge on the unemployment front - how we think about wealth now, can't continue in this world soon to come.","“不，不，不。” “也许自动化需要较少的人类，但它们都需要人类。这是完全相同的概念。” 我们正处于这样一个时刻，人工智能和机器人将能够完成**全部**工作，使人类在经济生产中变得多余。 随着自动驾驶汽车即将问世，我们离所有物流（仓储/交付）完全摆脱人力工作的需要并不那么遥远。 此外，失业并不是这对我们当前的经济组织方式所带来的唯一挑战-它比那更加基本。 当今天所有的财富都以股票、债券、养老基金、房地产价格为基础的金融体系依赖债务发行来增加货币供应时，却面临着持续通缩和收入下降的世界，这是数学上不可能的。 假设实验——当我们拥有一套人工智能医疗系统能够达到一般家庭医生的水平时，作为唯一的软件——为了让数十亿人使用，其成本会相对较低。 当他们的专业知识和时间不再是稀缺资源时，这将对人类医生收费产生何种影响？ 当自动驾驶出租车只需5美元的费用时，谁还会选择用人类的出租车，而费用为20美元呢？ 将这种情况在大多数白领工作中与人工智能以及机器人进行相乘。 这个问题不仅仅是对失业的挑战——在这个即将到来的世界中，我们现在对财富的看法是行不通的。",1 2593,di5y17n,"AI certainly could, but Doctor Who subscribes to ""all intelligent species are pretty much exactly as smart as humans"" school of tought, making any AI disaster pretty hard to write. The future of DW never has any machines, ai's, or species that deviate particularly much from human baseline, so suddenly introducing one in 2020 would be quite an asspull. Real life most likely won't follow that paradigm, so in real life that is somewhat terrifying real doomsday scenario, which really could happen any year now.","AI certainly could, but Doctor Who subscribes to ""all intelligent species are pretty much exactly as smart as humans"" school of tought, making any AI disaster pretty hard to write. The future of DW never has any machines, ai's, or species that deviate particularly much from human baseline, so suddenly introducing one in 2020 would be quite an asspull. Real life most likely won't follow that paradigm, so in real life that is somewhat terrifying real doomsday scenario, which really could happen any year now.",AI肯定可以，但是《神秘博士》遵循的是“所有智慧种族基本上和人类一样聪明”的理论，这使得任何人工智能灾难都很难写出来。《神秘博士》的未来从来没有出现过任何机器、人工智能或者不太符合人类标准的生物，所以突然在2020年引入这样一个角色会显得非常牵强。现实生活很可能不会遵循这种范式，所以在现实生活中这实际上是一个有点可怕的末日情景，真的可能在任何一年发生。,0 3206,di791np,"Right now the jobs being replaced are the lower rungs of information workers, those who only have to know a few things about documents or requests and decide what to do with it in a predictable script. But it is exponential, only a few at first but it's only a few steps from reaching half the economy. In terms of doctors, it doesn't replace, it greatly enhances their ability to work, but it will replace a lot of the support staff that need to deal with the paperwork and logistics aspects. It will, however, cause huge tensions as AI becomes wildly more accurate and capable than the best doctors. Medicine is a very conservative profession that will not deal very well with AI programs performing orders of magnitude better than even a full hospital staff. There isn't much to prepare for, really. It will be so disruptive that any attempts to prepare will be useless. But it will change many things, especially the cultural aspects that conservatives have a hard time dealing with. Millions of people saw the Internet becoming huge, yet very few predicted how much it impacted culture and the economy. The same will happen but larger and faster, largely because once a single AI is capable of doing something, it is already capable of reaching everywhere since we already have the Internet and computers in every aspect of life.","Right now the jobs being replaced are the lower rungs of information workers, those who only have to know a few things about documents or requests and decide what to do with it in a predictable script. But it is exponential, only a few at first but it's only a few steps from reaching half the economy. In terms of doctors, it doesn't replace, it greatly enhances their ability to work, but it will replace a lot of the support staff that need to deal with the paperwork and logistics aspects. It will, however, cause huge tensions as AI becomes wildly more accurate and capable than the best doctors. Medicine is a very conservative profession that will not deal very well with AI programs performing orders of magnitude better than even a full hospital staff. There isn't much to prepare for, really. It will be so disruptive that any attempts to prepare will be useless. But it will change many things, especially the cultural aspects that conservatives have a hard time dealing with. Millions of people saw the Internet becoming huge, yet very few predicted how much it impacted culture and the economy. The same will happen but larger and faster, largely because once a single AI is capable of doing something, it is already capable of reaching everywhere since we already have the Internet and computers in every aspect of life.","目前被替代的工作是信息工作者中的低层员工，这些人只需要了解一些关于文件或请求的事情，然后根据可预测的指南来处理。但这是指数增长的，一开始只有一小部分工作被替代，但很快将达到总经济的一半。 就医生而言，AI并没有取代他们，它实际上极大地增强了他们的工作能力，但会取代很多需要处理文件工作和后勤方面工作的支持人员。然而，随着AI变得比最优秀的医生还要准确和能干，这将引起巨大的紧张局势。医学是一个非常保守的行业，不太能很好地应对AI程序的性能比整个医院工作人员团队还要好很多倍。 实际上没有太多需要做准备的事情。这将是如此剧烈的变革，以至于任何准备都是无用的。但它将改变很多事情，特别是那些保守派很难应对的文化方面。数百万人看到互联网变得非常庞大，但很少有人预测到它对文化和经济的影响有多大。同样的情况将会发生，但规模更大，速度更快，主要是因为一旦单个AI能够做某件事情，它已经能够触及到每一个地方，因为我们已经在生活的方方面面都有互联网和电脑。",1 2952,di7cec6,"There will be a time when AI and robotics puts everyone out of a job. Eventually we won't need doctors, because computers don't miss data points and can recognize patterns better. We won't need nurses because robots will do it better. There is no doubt about it. The technology is coming for all our jobs. Will the pharmacist be the fist healthcare professional to fall to the machines? Maybe. However, if you think a robot can do your job, you're not doing your job right. As automation does more of the menial tasks. You do more complex ones. Certainly some jobs don't exist anymore because technology outmoded them, and that will continue to happen. So far interaction software is still flagging antibiotics that the patient finished 2 years ago. So far there is no perfect algorithm for warfarin dosing. So far AI can not notice when the patient doesn't understand what a 1/4 of a cap means. It certainly can't draw a line in a cap for that patient. So far epic can't pick the right combination if enoxaparin syringes, for some reason. So far i can't even walk some nurses through order entry, the computer has no chance. So far I assess dozens of flags every day that the computer seems to think are super serious, but I know are not. So far I still catch a few things a day that the computer misses. Will the AI be able to do all these things eventually. Absolutely. And when it does. I'll keep answering the phone when the doctors and nurses can't figure the technology out. All in all. I truly believe that being a phrmacist is pretty AI resistant. By the time Skynet comes for my job, it'll be smart enough to send terminators back in time so I never existed. ","There will be a time when AI and robotics puts everyone out of a job. Eventually we won't need doctors, because computers don't miss data points and can recognize patterns better. We won't need nurses because robots will do it better. There is no doubt about it. The technology is coming for all our jobs. Will the pharmacist be the fist healthcare professional to fall to the machines? Maybe. However, if you think a robot can do your job, you're not doing your job right. As automation does more of the menial tasks. You do more complex ones. Certainly some jobs don't exist anymore because technology outmoded them, and that will continue to happen. So far interaction software is still flagging antibiotics that the patient finished 2 years ago. So far there is no perfect algorithm for warfarin dosing. So far AI can not notice when the patient doesn't understand what a 14 of a cap means. It certainly can't draw a line in a cap for that patient. So far epic can't pick the right combination if enoxaparin syringes, for some reason. So far i can't even walk some nurses through order entry, the computer has no chance. So far I assess dozens of flags every day that the computer seems to think are super serious, but I know are not. So far I still catch a few things a day that the computer misses. Will the AI be able to do all these things eventually. Absolutely. And when it does. I'll keep answering the phone when the doctors and nurses can't figure the technology out. All in all. I truly believe that being a phrmacist is pretty AI resistant. By the time Skynet comes for my job, it'll be smart enough to send terminators back in time so I never existed.","总有一天，人工智能和机器人会令每个人失业。最终，我们不会再需要医生，因为电脑不会错过数据点，而且能更好地识别模式。我们也不会需要护士，因为机器人会做得更好。毫无疑问，科技正在夺走我们所有的工作。 药剂师会是第一个被机器取代的医疗专业人员吗？也许是。不过，如果你认为机器人能做你的工作，那说明你做得不够好。随着自动化处理更多例行工作，你做的工作会更复杂。 当然，一些工作因为技术的发展而不复存在，这种情况会继续发生。 到目前为止，交互软件仍然会标记出病人两年前用完的抗生素。到目前为止，还没有完美的华法林剂量算法。到目前为止，人工智能也无法注意到病人对于“1/4盖”不理解，更别说为病人在盖子上画线了。到目前为止，有些原因，电子病历系统还是不能准确挑选出肝素注射剂的正确组合。到目前为止，我甚至还得指导一些护士进行医嘱录入，电脑根本毫无机会。到目前为止，每天我都要评估几十个电脑认为严重的提示，但我知道它们其实并不是。到目前为止，我每天还能发现一些电脑忽略的事情。 人工智能最终能够做这些事情吗？当然可以。而到那个时候，我会继续接听电话，当医生和护士无法弄懂技术时。 总的来说，我真心认为作为一名药剂师是相当不易被人工智能取代的。等Skynet来夺走我的工作时，它也会足够聪明，会派终结者回到过去，以至于我从未存在过。",1 2403,di8bejz,"You know what ..if this shit happens prople will think twice before conceiving . .bcoz many people like doctors,army guys,teachers,researchers...draw aeaning to their life by means of the work they do.... And yes i know that it seems so great to recieve a fixed to do things like vacations and netflix but it starts to bore the shit out of you in a few days. I fail to understand why they are'nt accepting our flaws as humans...yes we can't do calculations as fast as those AGI(artificial general intelligence) things that Elon plans to develop but why not just accept it... ","You know what ..if this shit happens prople will think twice before conceiving . .bcoz many people like doctors,army guys,teachers,researchers...draw aeaning to their life by means of the work they do.... And yes i know that it seems so great to recieve a fixed to do things like vacations and netflix but it starts to bore the shit out of you in a few days. I fail to understand why they are'nt accepting our flaws as humans...yes we can't do calculations as fast as those AGI(artificial general intelligence) things that Elon plans to develop but why not just accept it...","你知道嘛，如果这种事情发生了，人们在考虑要不要生孩子的时候会多想一想...因为很多人像医生、军人、老师、研究人员...都是通过他们的工作来给自己的生活找到意义的。 还有我知道很多人觉得固定工资、度假和看Netflix挺不错，但几天之后就会开始无聊抓狂。 我就是弄不明白为什么他们就不能接受我们作为人类的缺点...是啊，我们的计算速度可能比不上埃隆计划开发的那些AGI（通用人工智能）的东西，但为什么就不能接受呢...",1 4517,di8tidy,"Watson was and is trash: https://www.healthnewsreview.org/2017/02/md-anderson-cancer-centers-ibm-watson-project-fails-journalism-related/ ""But the new software wasn't compatible with how Watson was configured and project leaders failed to perform updates that would have allowed the systems to play nicely. "" from the ars article fails to underscore that if you successfully made medical record formats play nicely that invention alone would be worth far more than Watson is worth, and Watson's inability to handle it shows the limitations of AI. If you truly believe that robots are better than humans at recognizing whether someone is feeling depressed and providing empathy you're nuts. In fact, you could argue that the fact that empathy is coming from a human is essential to humans even caring at all. There are tons of articles on this subreddit and the net that simply have no idea what they're talking about. **They're designed to get clicks, not to inform**. Oh look! Robots will replace anesthesiologists in 2013 I guess! https://www.google.com/amp/io9.com/386691/meet-mcsleepy-the-worlds-first-robot-anesthesiologist/amp Ignore the clickbait. There are studies on which jobs are actually going to be replaced and they're pretty much exactly what you would expect. http://www.npr.org/sections/money/2015/05/21/408234543/will-your-job-be-done-by-a-machine Pictured: physicians at .4%, the second lowest (second to mental health). Physicians will be automated, but they will be just about the last jobs to go (computer programming interestingly will be automated before as the AI will need to be strong enough to program itself). I do believe the new derm algorithm is as good as they say, but if I don't hear anything about it in the next year or two I'll assume it's yet another case of an AI that overpromised and underdelivered. ","Watson was and is trash: https:www.healthnewsreview.org201702md-anderson-cancer-centers-ibm-watson-project-fails-journalism-related ""But the new software wasn't compatible with how Watson was configured and project leaders failed to perform updates that would have allowed the systems to play nicely. "" from the ars article fails to underscore that if you successfully made medical record formats play nicely that invention alone would be worth far more than Watson is worth, and Watson's inability to handle it shows the limitations of AI. If you truly believe that robots are better than humans at recognizing whether someone is feeling depressed and providing empathy you're nuts. In fact, you could argue that the fact that empathy is coming from a human is essential to humans even caring at all. There are tons of articles on this subreddit and the net that simply have no idea what they're talking about. They're designed to get clicks, not to inform. Oh look! Robots will replace anesthesiologists in 2013 I guess! https:www.google.comampio9.com386691meet-mcsleepy-the-worlds-first-robot-anesthesiologistamp Ignore the clickbait. There are studies on which jobs are actually going to be replaced and they're pretty much exactly what you would expect. http:www.npr.orgsectionsmoney20150521408234543will-your-job-be-done-by-a-machine Pictured: physicians at .4, the second lowest (second to mental health). Physicians will be automated, but they will be just about the last jobs to go (computer programming interestingly will be automated before as the AI will need to be strong enough to program itself). I do believe the new derm algorithm is as good as they say, but if I don't hear anything about it in the next year or two I'll assume it's yet another case of an AI that overpromised and underdelivered.","沃森软件在这里算是垃圾了：https://www.healthnewsreview.org/2017/02/md-anderson-cancer-centers-ibm-watson-project-fails-journalism-related/ 但是，来源于ars文章的新软件并不兼容沃森的配置，项目负责人也未能及时进行更新，以便让系统正常运行。这个没提到的问题在表明一个事实，如果你成功地让病历格式通畅无阻，这项发明本身的价值可能远远超过沃森的价值，而沃森无法胜任这个任务，这表明了人工智能的局限性。 如果你真的相信机器人比人类更擅长识别别人是否情绪低落，并提供同情心的话，你可能有点疯了。事实上，你可以说，同情心来自一个人类的关怀对人类本身来说非常重要。 这个subreddit和互联网上有很多文章根本就不知道自己在说什么。它们只是为了点击率，而不是真的为了信息传递。 哦，看这里！机器人在2013年将代替麻醉师了，我猜！https://www.google.com/amp/io9.com/386691/meet-mcsleepy-the-worlds-first-robot-anesthesiologist/amp 别理着标题党。有研究显示哪些职位实际上会被取代，这些研究结果基本上都和你所预期的一样。http://www.npr.org/sections/money/2015/05/21/408234543/will-your-job-be-done-by-a-machine 图上显示：医师只占0.4%，是最低的（仅次于心理健康）。 医师的工作将会被自动化，但他们将几乎是最后一个被取代的职业（有趣的是，计算机编程将在此之前被自动化，因为人工智能需要足够强大才能为自己编程）。 我确实相信新的皮肤科算法和大家所说的一样好，但如果未来一两年里我没有听到任何消息，我会认为这又是一个过誉的人工智能，并未兑现其诺言的案例。",1 4553,diaigi4,"> You can't prove that you prayed, and you definitely can't prove that they were answered. This is false. Again you are confusing methods of knowing with what has actually happened. I know the things I have done. I do not know the things you have done. I know the things I have said to myself in private. I do not know the things you have said to yourself in private. Does your knowing change what happened to me in private? No it does not. This is the point I am getting at. It is the flaw that I wish you would understand. You are saying if I didn't hear it feel it see it touch, then it didn't happen. You do not live your life this way. If you did then, history is not a thing for you. Because after all you cannot prove that these things happened in the past. Before video you can't prove to me that people actually did or said something. You can only prove that it was written down. You have to assume that what was written down was accurate. Even if you do have video it could have been staged or doctored you have to assume that what they are showing you is what actually happened. Or in other words you must have faith. Anything you know requires faith. Faith in your experiments that show what you think they will. Faith that the basis of what you know and have been told is accurate. Faith that your senses are correct. I could go on. Let me illustrate this for you another way. Prove to me you exist. I won't accept your posting things as that could be an AI, I won't accept pictures or videos, because they they can be faked whoever by built the AI. Same with coming to visit me. How would you prove it if I will not accept any of the evidence you wish to show, because it could be faked? I'll leave you with this. There once was an atheist who was proclaiming how he was told there was a god. But he that it was utter foolishness, because he has never seen God. To which a man responded to him: I am told there is a moon in the sky, I am told there are stars in the sky, and that there are clouds up in the sky. But I have never seen the moon, or the stars, or clouds, because I'm blind. What are you missing out on knowing because of what your faith in your method of knowing things blinds you to?","gt; You can't prove that you prayed, and you definitely can't prove that they were answered. This is false. Again you are confusing methods of knowing with what has actually happened. I know the things I have done. I do not know the things you have done. I know the things I have said to myself in private. I do not know the things you have said to yourself in private. Does your knowing change what happened to me in private? No it does not. This is the point I am getting at. It is the flaw that I wish you would understand. You are saying if I didn't hear it feel it see it touch, then it didn't happen. You do not live your life this way. If you did then, history is not a thing for you. Because after all you cannot prove that these things happened in the past. Before video you can't prove to me that people actually did or said something. You can only prove that it was written down. You have to assume that what was written down was accurate. Even if you do have video it could have been staged or doctored you have to assume that what they are showing you is what actually happened. Or in other words you must have faith. Anything you know requires faith. Faith in your experiments that show what you think they will. Faith that the basis of what you know and have been told is accurate. Faith that your senses are correct. I could go on. Let me illustrate this for you another way. Prove to me you exist. I won't accept your posting things as that could be an AI, I won't accept pictures or videos, because they they can be faked whoever by built the AI. Same with coming to visit me. How would you prove it if I will not accept any of the evidence you wish to show, because it could be faked? I'll leave you with this. There once was an atheist who was proclaiming how he was told there was a god. But he that it was utter foolishness, because he has never seen God. To which a man responded to him: I am told there is a moon in the sky, I am told there are stars in the sky, and that there are clouds up in the sky. But I have never seen the moon, or the stars, or clouds, because I'm blind. What are you missing out on knowing because of what your faith in your method of knowing things blinds you to?","> 你不能证明你祈祷过，而且你肯定不能证明他们有没有得到回应。 这是错误的。你再一次混淆了认识方法和实际发生的事情。我知道我做过的事情。我不知道你做过的事情。我知道我在私下对自己说过的话。我不知道你在私下对自己说过的话。你的知识改变了我在私下的经历吗？不，没有。这就是我要表达的观点。这就是我希望你能理解的缺陷。你在说如果我没有听到、感受到、看到、触摸到，那么它就没有发生。你不是这样过你的生活。如果是的话，那么历史对你来说就不重要了。因为毕竟你不能证明那些事情发生在过去。视频之前你不能证明人们真的做了或说了某事。你只能证明它被记录了下来。你必须假设被记录下来的事情是准确的。即使你有视频，它可能是假的或者被篡改了，你必须假设他们向你展示的就是实际发生的。或者说，你必须相信。任何你所知道的东西都需要信念。对你实验的信念，它们会展现你所认为的。对你所知道和被告知的基础的信念。对你的感官是正确的信念。我可以继续说下去。 让我用另一种方式来说明这件事情。向我证明你存在。我不会接受你发帖子，因为那可能是人工智能，我也不会接受照片或视频，因为它们可能是假的，不管是谁制作了这些人工智能。和来看我。如果我不接受你想要展示的任何证据，那你怎么证明呢，因为它可能是假的？ 我会用这个留给你。曾经有一个无神论者宣称他被告知有一个上帝。但他认为这纯粹是愚蠢，因为他从来没有见过上帝。一个人回答他: 我被告知天空中有月亮，有星星，还有云。但我从来没有见过月亮，星星或云，因为我是盲人。 因为你对认识事物的方法的信念使你蒙上了眼睛，你错过了什么呢？",0 4843,did79nk,"AI has already proven multiple times to be better at diagnosing heart disease and heart attacks than any doctor. Multiple groups such as Indiana University have found AI to be more accurate than a doctor in about 90% of cases. For example: http://www.computerworld.com/article/2494918/healthcare-it/ai-found-better-than-doctors-at-diagnosing--treating-patients.html ",AI has already proven multiple times to be better at diagnosing heart disease and heart attacks than any doctor. Multiple groups such as Indiana University have found AI to be more accurate than a doctor in about 90 of cases. For example: http:www.computerworld.comarticle2494918healthcare-itai-found-better-than-doctors-at-diagnosing--treating-patients.html,"AI已经多次证明在诊断心脏病和心脏病发作方面比任何医生都要更好。像印第安纳大学这样的多个研究团体发现，在大约90%的病例中，AI的准确性比医生更高。 举个例子：http://www.computerworld.com/article/2494918/healthcare-it/ai-found-better-than-doctors-at-diagnosing--treating-patients.html",1 4276,didsacl,"I don't find this surprising, cancer treatments planning is the area with the most defined protocols. It's to be expected that an AI would be particularly good at it, even if the achievements of IBM are pretty amazing. Modern medecine should be evidence-based but the fact is that in day-to-day decisions there is still a lot of cases where physicians have to make decisions based on experience and not on controlled studies, because there isn't any. Two very good and competent physicians will sometimes take completely different treatment decisions and it would be impossible to determine who is right. I believe that will be a huge limitation in this project, to make this work a consensus would be needed on everything, and even then some criterias are hard to make objective. Still, I'm pretty excited to know how far it will go.","I don't find this surprising, cancer treatments planning is the area with the most defined protocols. It's to be expected that an AI would be particularly good at it, even if the achievements of IBM are pretty amazing. Modern medecine should be evidence-based but the fact is that in day-to-day decisions there is still a lot of cases where physicians have to make decisions based on experience and not on controlled studies, because there isn't any. Two very good and competent physicians will sometimes take completely different treatment decisions and it would be impossible to determine who is right. I believe that will be a huge limitation in this project, to make this work a consensus would be needed on everything, and even then some criterias are hard to make objective. Still, I'm pretty excited to know how far it will go.",我并不觉得这个令人惊讶，癌症治疗规划是最有明确方案的领域。预料之中的是，人工智能在这方面会表现特别出色，尽管IBM的成就确实令人惊叹。现代医学应该是以证据为基础的，但事实上，在日常决策中，仍然有很多情况下医生必须基于经验而不是受控研究来做决定，因为没有。两位非常优秀和有能力的医生有时会做出完全不同的治疗决定，而且很难确定哪个对。我相信这个项目会面临巨大的局限，要使其成功需要在所有方面达成一致，即便如此，有些标准仍然很难变得客观。不过，我还是很兴奋想知道它能走多远。,1 654,digsk48,"> There's a reason why all PhDs are, literally, doctors of philosophy. It's important we keep that in mind. I don't know the actual reason but I would guess that, at the time this became the traditional label, there was so much basic science that we didn't know that philosophical inquiry had a much broader domain than it does today. If that's the not the correct model, it will be something accidental like that. I think of philosophy as what we do until science takes over, and eventually science must take over all of philosophy itself. Once the human brain can be modeled, the very mechanics and relevance of philosophical conceptual tool kits can be measured in a lot of ways. It should be easy to come up with much better algorithms for knowledge generation than philosophy using artificial intelligence in any case. There are many reasons philosophy, much of it like astrology in the sense of wielding mythology, will become extinct as a serious discipline. ","gt; There's a reason why all PhDs are, literally, doctors of philosophy. It's important we keep that in mind. I don't know the actual reason but I would guess that, at the time this became the traditional label, there was so much basic science that we didn't know that philosophical inquiry had a much broader domain than it does today. If that's the not the correct model, it will be something accidental like that. I think of philosophy as what we do until science takes over, and eventually science must take over all of philosophy itself. Once the human brain can be modeled, the very mechanics and relevance of philosophical conceptual tool kits can be measured in a lot of ways. It should be easy to come up with much better algorithms for knowledge generation than philosophy using artificial intelligence in any case. There are many reasons philosophy, much of it like astrology in the sense of wielding mythology, will become extinct as a serious discipline.","> 所有博士学位都被称为哲学博士，这不是没有原因的。我们要记住这一点。 我不知道实际原因，但我猜想在这个成为传统称号的时候，我们不知道那么多基础科学，所以哲学探究的领域比今天更广泛。如果这不是正确的模型，可能是某种意外的情况。 我认为哲学就是在科学接管之前我们所做的事情，最终科学必须接管所有的哲学。一旦人脑可以被建模，哲学概念工具包的机制和相关性可以通过很多方式来衡量。 使用人工智能来产生知识的算法应该比哲学更容易实现。 有很多原因会导致哲学，其中很多像占星术一样掌握神话的内容，最终会成为一个严肃的学科。",0 4759,diixwk0,"> Lawyers. Doctors. You don't spend a million dollars on an general AI to collect garbage. There's a lot of garbage collectors out there. I could see that being a dirty unicorn if it could be pulled off.",gt; Lawyers. Doctors. You don't spend a million dollars on an general AI to collect garbage. There's a lot of garbage collectors out there. I could see that being a dirty unicorn if it could be pulled off.,"看吧，那些律师医生可不会花上百万美元去研发一个通用人工智能来收垃圾。 垃圾收集员可是有很多的。如果真能做到的话，我觉得那可能会成为一个“脏脏的独角兽”。",1 2550,dijtjjq,"You are welcome to focus on whichever aspects you like. However, EM burnout is pretty significant, whereas IM can be depending on your choices. By choices I mean, a hospitalist or Pulm/CC IM path will probably have similar risk of burnout to EM. But a rheumatologist or AI or outpatient IM doc? Probably not. If you are worried about pay, yes, IM makes less on average than EM. But fellowships in things like GI or cards (or Pulm/CC sometimes) can out earn the average EM physician. Most importantly, do what you like and you shouldn't have to deal with burnout and the money between these specialities/fellowships is more or less negligible.","You are welcome to focus on whichever aspects you like. However, EM burnout is pretty significant, whereas IM can be depending on your choices. By choices I mean, a hospitalist or PulmCC IM path will probably have similar risk of burnout to EM. But a rheumatologist or AI or outpatient IM doc? Probably not. If you are worried about pay, yes, IM makes less on average than EM. But fellowships in things like GI or cards (or PulmCC sometimes) can out earn the average EM physician. Most importantly, do what you like and you shouldn't have to deal with burnout and the money between these specialitiesfellowships is more or less negligible.","你想专注于哪方面都可以。不过，急诊医学领域的工作压力很大，内科医学则要看你的选择。 我的意思是，像医院医师或者肺病/危重症内科医师这样的职业可能会和急诊医学一样容易出现工作压力过大的情况。但风湿病学医生、医疗人工智能专家或门诊内科医生可能就不会。 如果你担心薪水问题，是的，内科医学的平均工资要低于急诊医学。但像消化内科学或心脏病学（或有时也是肺病/危重症内科）的进修课程可能会比普通急诊医生赚得更多。 最重要的是，做你喜欢的事情，你不应该忍受工作压力和薪水方面的差别在这些专业/进修课程之间基本上或多或少是可以忽略的。",0 2219,dil9f8l,"> If someone was prescient, what additions or modifications would they suggest to the U.S. Bill of Rights, to address the potential influence of AIs? * prescient - having or showing knowledge of events before they take place. I think it would include that any political governing authority must be as a human and be human at the time of governing. Something more fancy and legally binding but with the gist being they must be human and not an ai with human parts in terms of the computations done relating to the governing actions such as finalizing bills, etc. It's a bit complicated as there are a ton of variations that allow loop holes so you'd have to close all of them. AI must only be a tool, not the wielder of control over humans. I gave a similar overview in the question relating to the possible situation of doctors being replaced by AI/robots. [LINK](https://www.reddit.com/r/startups/comments/6fjpn1/ama_im_an_entrepreneur_and_ai_researcher/dik0h64/?context=10000) > are you prescient? what do you think we will need? While I do not like to claim to be, I am more often than I'd like. Seeing the outcome before it happens ruins my ability to have false hope and therefore temporal joy in most subject scopes. Relationships, economy, government action, people's actions, etc. :/ For instance, me and roughly 10 others in highschool designed very advanced things because we foresaw the pathway that the USA and world was taking in political, social, and economic terms. Those predictions continue to come true. Similar with various high tech inventions such as magnetic scanners being used in a specific way paired with ""training"" material to be able to read people's minds in a visual sense such as seeing their dreams. I suggest that while powerful and useful in some scenarios, it destroys your want to live. Basically, information can be drawn from axioms to logical conclusions in quite an extensive way. This is also one factor that makes AGI massively dangerous if not properly solved (control problem/s). In the end, in a more philosophical tone, it's best to just hope for the best and plan for the worst. You see, humans attempt to predict the nature of others based on what is realistic/logical but most people operate on emotions vs facts so they end up operating using their ideals. Reality vs ideals give you very different prediction outcomes. So to effectively predict the outcome of what people will do, you structure logical processes but instead of inserting what is a logical thing for people to do, you insert what people tend to do. I have a gnarly feeling this comment is going to get me some unwanted heat, but I like being genuine and it is an interesting set of topics to discuss.","gt; If someone was prescient, what additions or modifications would they suggest to the U.S. Bill of Rights, to address the potential influence of AIs? prescient - having or showing knowledge of events before they take place. I think it would include that any political governing authority must be as a human and be human at the time of governing. Something more fancy and legally binding but with the gist being they must be human and not an ai with human parts in terms of the computations done relating to the governing actions such as finalizing bills, etc. It's a bit complicated as there are a ton of variations that allow loop holes so you'd have to close all of them. AI must only be a tool, not the wielder of control over humans. I gave a similar overview in the question relating to the possible situation of doctors being replaced by AIrobots. LINK(https:www.reddit.comrstartupscomments6fjpn1amaimanentrepreneurandairesearcherdik0h64?context10000) gt; are you prescient? what do you think we will need? While I do not like to claim to be, I am more often than I'd like. Seeing the outcome before it happens ruins my ability to have false hope and therefore temporal joy in most subject scopes. Relationships, economy, government action, people's actions, etc. : For instance, me and roughly 10 others in highschool designed very advanced things because we foresaw the pathway that the USA and world was taking in political, social, and economic terms. Those predictions continue to come true. Similar with various high tech inventions such as magnetic scanners being used in a specific way paired with ""training"" material to be able to read people's minds in a visual sense such as seeing their dreams. I suggest that while powerful and useful in some scenarios, it destroys your want to live. Basically, information can be drawn from axioms to logical conclusions in quite an extensive way. This is also one factor that makes AGI massively dangerous if not properly solved (control problems). In the end, in a more philosophical tone, it's best to just hope for the best and plan for the worst. You see, humans attempt to predict the nature of others based on what is realisticlogical but most people operate on emotions vs facts so they end up operating using their ideals. Reality vs ideals give you very different prediction outcomes. So to effectively predict the outcome of what people will do, you structure logical processes but instead of inserting what is a logical thing for people to do, you insert what people tend to do. I have a gnarly feeling this comment is going to get me some unwanted heat, but I like being genuine and it is an interesting set of topics to discuss.",">如果有人很有预见性，他们会建议对美国权利法案进行哪些补充或修改，以应对人工智能的潜在影响呢？ 我觉得应该包括任何政治管理权力必须由人类来担任，并且在执政时必须是人类。可能会更花哨一些，法律上也更具约束力，但核心意思是他们必须是人类，而不是具有人类部分的人工智能，例如涉及最终通过法案等行为的计算。这有点复杂，因为有许多变化可能会导致漏洞，因此必须把全部问题都解决掉。 人工智能必须只是一个工具，而不是控制人类的主宰。我在关于可能出现AI/机器人取代医生的问题上提出了类似的观点。 >你有先见之明吗？你认为我们将需要什么？ 虽然我不喜欢自称有先见之明，但事实上我经常有。在大多数主题领域，事先看到结果会破坏我对虚幻希望和时间上的愉悦。比如说，我和大约其他10个高中生设计了非常先进的东西，因为我们预见到美国和世界在政治、社会和经济方面的发展路径。这些预测继续成真。类似的还有高科技发明，比如将磁力扫描仪以特定方式与“训练”材料配对使用，能够以视觉方式读取人们的思维，比如看到他们的梦。我认为，虽然在某些情景下强大且有用，但这毁掉了你的生活愿望。 基本上，可以从公理中推导出相当全面的逻辑结论。这也是AGI（人工通用智能）如果没有得到适当解决（控制问题/解决）的一项重要因素。 最终，从更哲学的角度来看，最好的办法就是对最好的情况抱有希望，为最坏的情况做好准备。 你看，人们试图根据现实/逻辑来预测他人的本性，但大多数人是基于情感而不是事实来运作的，所以他们最终用自己的理想来运作。现实与理想会产生非常不同的预测结果。因此，为了有效地预测人们会做出什么样的行为，你要设计逻辑过程，但在传递给人们做出逻辑行为的地方，你要考虑人们倾向于怎么做。 我有一种预感，这条评论可能会给我带来一些不必要的压力，但我喜欢坦诚，这是一组有趣的话题来讨论。",0 4677,dimaqqd,"to further clarify he said [""This week I have been asked to resurrect three different characters that I voiced from 3 different games gone by. A doctor, a devil and a droid/AI""](http://i.imgur.com/lpgQdWd.jpg) - People just looked through Lex's portfolio and put 2 and 2 together. The doctor part of the tweet was then later confirmed. He did indeed reprice his role as Dr. Neo Cortex from the Crash Bandicoot series, but he first confirmed, after the game was officially announced.","to further clarify he said ""This week I have been asked to resurrect three different characters that I voiced from 3 different games gone by. A doctor, a devil and a droidAI""(http:i.imgur.comlpgQdWd.jpg) - People just looked through Lex's portfolio and put 2 and 2 together. The doctor part of the tweet was then later confirmed. He did indeed reprice his role as Dr. Neo Cortex from the Crash Bandicoot series, but he first confirmed, after the game was officially announced.",为了进一步澄清，他说：“这周我被要求再次演绎我在过去三款游戏中所配音的不同角色。一个医生，一个魔鬼和一个机器人/人工智能。“ 人们只是翻阅了Lex的作品集，把两个加起来。推文中提到的医生角色后来被证实了。他确实重新出演了《狂欢科学怪人》系列中的Neo Cortex博士一角，但是在游戏正式宣布之后才确认了这一点。,0 3134,dir15iz,"These days, I hopelessly laugh when Dormammu immediately fucks me with his skull when he insta kills me after my previous character just died or he just resurrected, before I could even press a button. Its so much fun! Timeline is always shit for me when Doctor strange is banned. I built Ebony Maw for timeline, but he is a weapon only in the hands of AI. Also, its not like those who themselves have Dormammu must be having fun. I don't have him built, but I have seen Dmmu vs Dmmu fights and they seem long and tedious.","These days, I hopelessly laugh when Dormammu immediately fucks me with his skull when he insta kills me after my previous character just died or he just resurrected, before I could even press a button. Its so much fun! Timeline is always shit for me when Doctor strange is banned. I built Ebony Maw for timeline, but he is a weapon only in the hands of AI. Also, its not like those who themselves have Dormammu must be having fun. I don't have him built, but I have seen Dmmu vs Dmmu fights and they seem long and tedious.","最近，每当多玛姆在我上一个角色刚死或者他刚复活的时候就秒杀我，我就没心情笑，太没意思了！时间线总对我不利，一旦奇异博士被禁用，我就用黑曼巴，在我的手里他就是个废物，只有电脑玩家能用得好。 而且，拥有多玛姆的人也未必就好玩。我自己没弄过他，但我见识过多玛姆对战多玛姆，又长又烦。",0 3599,diwiiqk,"The next sentence is That 'some people' don't need it. Therefore you are saying the rule of thumb is to use AI on a cruise, which is bad advice and untrue. Sure if you are at a 500 total and your estro is out of range AND you're presenting symptoms then you probably need AI. Plenty of guys here think 250 mg/wk is a cruise. It's not. Any doctor worth his shit sees a high total and you have itchy nipples or bloat they're just going to tell you to lower your dose. Unless they're a quack and want to keep selling you too much testosterone then maybe they will prescribe an AI. Again if the rule of thumb during replacement was to just use AI just cause... guys all over in general who are not on TRT would need AI. ","The next sentence is That 'some people' don't need it. Therefore you are saying the rule of thumb is to use AI on a cruise, which is bad advice and untrue. Sure if you are at a 500 total and your estro is out of range AND you're presenting symptoms then you probably need AI. Plenty of guys here think 250 mgwk is a cruise. It's not. Any doctor worth his shit sees a high total and you have itchy nipples or bloat they're just going to tell you to lower your dose. Unless they're a quack and want to keep selling you too much testosterone then maybe they will prescribe an AI. Again if the rule of thumb during replacement was to just use AI just cause... guys all over in general who are not on TRT would need AI.","下一句是'That 'some people' don't need it.' 这样你就是在说用AI只是个经验法则，这不是个好建议，也不是事实。当然，如果你的总素是500，雌激素超标并且出现了症状，那么你可能需要AI。这里有很多人认为250mg/wk就是养护剂。这不对。一个像样的医生看到你的总素高了而你有乳头瘙痒或水肿，他们通常会建议你降低剂量。除非他们是江湖郎中想多卖你点睾酮，不然也许他们会开AI。 再次，在替代治疗时，如果经验法则就是因为这样就用AI的话... 那么一般来说在TRT之外的男性都需要AI。",0 3384,diy83tb,"You sly dog, you! Now, THAT'S a show I would -- ah -- that's --- so --- deeply --- boring --- zzzzz. But *not* as boring as turning the show into just another dreary piece of ""prestige TV"" (multiple story lines, the Doctor nursing some secret addiction or health condition that he can gurn about on and off, and a single long story (a set-up, and dragged out series of reprieves and reversals stuffed in solely in order to put off the climax and resolution long enough, and turning a picaresque adventure tale into Big, Glossy, Formula TV that any reasonably experienced pro, or for that matter AI, can churn out, per the OP. If it's massive world wide commercial success they're after, that's probably the way to go. Too bad, but we'll have to look elsewhere for our odd and quirky flares of brilliance, goofiness, and uncanned emotion. That would be a great example of how mass culture spots honest talent, buys it, and irons it flat into just more Extruded Entertainment Product. Ugh. Sorry; grouchy this a.m. ","You sly dog, you! Now, THAT'S a show I would -- ah -- that's --- so --- deeply --- boring --- zzzzz. But not as boring as turning the show into just another dreary piece of ""prestige TV"" (multiple story lines, the Doctor nursing some secret addiction or health condition that he can gurn about on and off, and a single long story (a set-up, and dragged out series of reprieves and reversals stuffed in solely in order to put off the climax and resolution long enough, and turning a picaresque adventure tale into Big, Glossy, Formula TV that any reasonably experienced pro, or for that matter AI, can churn out, per the OP. If it's massive world wide commercial success they're after, that's probably the way to go. Too bad, but we'll have to look elsewhere for our odd and quirky flares of brilliance, goofiness, and uncanned emotion. That would be a great example of how mass culture spots honest talent, buys it, and irons it flat into just more Extruded Entertainment Product. Ugh. Sorry; grouchy this a.m.","你这个老狐狸！现在，那是一部我会-啊-那个-真的-无聊-呼呼地犯困的节目。但*也*不如把这个节目变成另一个沉闷的“权威电视剧”（多条故事线，博士护着某个秘密的瘾癖或健康问题时不时吆喝，一个漫长的故事（一个设置，然后被拖延的一系列暂时的解救和反转，全都是为了拖延高潮和结局，把一个流浪历险的故事变成大型、光鲜、公式化的电视剧，任何一个经验丰富的专业人士，或者说人工智能，都能按照原计划制作出来。 如果他们追求的是全球商业成功，那可能是个好办法。真遗憾，但我们还得到别处寻找我们想要的怪异而古怪的才华、滑稽和真情流露。这充分表明了大众文化是如何发现诚实的创意天才，把它买下来，然后把它捏扁成一种流水线制造的娱乐产品。 呸。抱歉；我今天早上有些脾气不好。",0 1383,dj0no4g,"Okay. And of those, exactly one is a confirmed lesbian. That's one of your points shot. Now, as for males shown by Disney in their comics, we have: **(Darth Maul series)** Calgriz, Jee Kra, Troo-tril-tek, Vorhdeilo **(Obi-Wan & Anakin)** Grecker, Colandrus **(Kanan)** Grey, Styles, Kleeve, Janus Kasmir, Gamut Key, Kleeve, Big-Mouth, Kaylon ,Mixx, Remo, Soot, Tapusk, Morfizo, Sammo Quid, Rackham Sear, Stance, ,Coburn Sear, Junn, Mul Sanaka, Covis, Dreed, Tivvy, Beon Beonel, Rill, Venk **(Chewbacca)** Jaum, Tyvak, Arrax, Dek, Kelemer, Kai, Sevox **(Star Wars)** Aggadeen, Grakkus the Hutt, Keener, Phin-Law Wo, Kreel, Blue Leader (), Karbin, Red, Leader (), Eneb Ray, Kolar Ludd, Cav, Misty (?), Aero, Izak Anzio/?, Mic, Shrap, Verette, Zuke, Lo, Garro **(Darth Vader)** Black Krrsantan, Cylo, Oon-ai, Morit Astarte, Beebox, Thanoth, The Ante, Doowan, The Dragon, Commodex Tahn, Monthan, Rubix, Jooli, Thlu-Ry **(Doctor Aphra)** Soo-Tath, Ulbik Tan, Toob-Nix, Amon, Rur (technically counts even though he's a Legends character), Bombinax, Varroa **(Lando)** Aleksin, Pavol, Pasqual, Toren, Conro, Idel, Shan, Big String **(Han Solo)** Adame, Katrull, Delan Vook, Bot, Tomine, Aran **(Shattered Empire)** Kes Dameron, L'ulo, Tuck, Lerr Duvat, Donta Gesset, Gulin, Korro, Able Nereno, Hurron **(Poe Dameron)** Terex, Kan Be, Isin, Weel, Corlac, Grecker, Colandrus Looks like to me it greatly outnumbers the number of women that Marvel introduced. And hey, most of these men have more character to them than a few of the women you mentioned (really? using ""unidentified female officer?"" as a part of your list of female characters? for shame)","Okay. And of those, exactly one is a confirmed lesbian. That's one of your points shot. Now, as for males shown by Disney in their comics, we have: (Darth Maul series) Calgriz, Jee Kra, Troo-tril-tek, Vorhdeilo (Obi-Wan amp; Anakin) Grecker, Colandrus (Kanan) Grey, Styles, Kleeve, Janus Kasmir, Gamut Key, Kleeve, Big-Mouth, Kaylon ,Mixx, Remo, Soot, Tapusk, Morfizo, Sammo Quid, Rackham Sear, Stance, ,Coburn Sear, Junn, Mul Sanaka, Covis, Dreed, Tivvy, Beon Beonel, Rill, Venk (Chewbacca) Jaum, Tyvak, Arrax, Dek, Kelemer, Kai, Sevox (Star Wars) Aggadeen, Grakkus the Hutt, Keener, Phin-Law Wo, Kreel, Blue Leader (), Karbin, Red, Leader (), Eneb Ray, Kolar Ludd, Cav, Misty (?), Aero, Izak Anzio?, Mic, Shrap, Verette, Zuke, Lo, Garro (Darth Vader) Black Krrsantan, Cylo, Oon-ai, Morit Astarte, Beebox, Thanoth, The Ante, Doowan, The Dragon, Commodex Tahn, Monthan, Rubix, Jooli, Thlu-Ry (Doctor Aphra) Soo-Tath, Ulbik Tan, Toob-Nix, Amon, Rur (technically counts even though he's a Legends character), Bombinax, Varroa (Lando) Aleksin, Pavol, Pasqual, Toren, Conro, Idel, Shan, Big String (Han Solo) Adame, Katrull, Delan Vook, Bot, Tomine, Aran (Shattered Empire) Kes Dameron, L'ulo, Tuck, Lerr Duvat, Donta Gesset, Gulin, Korro, Able Nereno, Hurron (Poe Dameron) Terex, Kan Be, Isin, Weel, Corlac, Grecker, Colandrus Looks like to me it greatly outnumbers the number of women that Marvel introduced. And hey, most of these men have more character to them than a few of the women you mentioned (really? using ""unidentified female officer?"" as a part of your list of female characters? for shame)","好的。而且其中，确认的女同性恋仅有一个。你的一个观点已经被否定了。 而在迪士尼漫画中展现的男性中，我们有： （达斯·摩尔系列） 卡格里兹，基克拉，特鲁-特里尔-泰克，沃德迪罗 （奥比-旺&阿纳金） 格雷克，科兰德鲁斯 （卡南） 格雷，斯泰尔斯，克利夫，贾努斯·卡斯米尔，莫罗兹，卡兰，米克斯，雷莫，苏特，塔普斯克，摩菲佐，萨莫·齐德，拉卡姆·西尔，斯坦斯，柯本·西尔，姆尔·萨纳卡，科维斯，德里德，提维，布尤·比奥内尔，瑞尔，文克 （丘巴卡） 贾姆，泰瓦克，阿拉克斯，迪克，凯勒默，凯，塞福克斯 （星球大战） 阿加迪恩，赫奇克斯赫特，基尼尔，菲恩-劳·沃，克里尔，蓝色领袖（ ），卡宾，红色领袖（ ），伊涅布·雷，科拉·卢德，卡夫，迷雾（？），艾罗，伊萨克·安齐奥/？，麦克，炮击，维雷特，祖克，洛，加洛 （达斯维达） 黑克拉斯坦，赛洛，乌恩-艾，摩里特·阿斯塔特，比博克斯，萨诺斯，安特，杜安，龙，通达·坦，蒙森，鲁比克斯，朱利，斯卢-雷 （阿芙拉博士） 苏-萨斯，乌尔比克·坦，图布-尼克斯，阿蒙，鲁尔（虽然他是一个传奇角色，但也算进来），波明纳克斯，瓦罗阿 （兰多） 亚历克辛，帕沃尔，帕斯夸尔，托伦，孔罗，伊德尔，尚恩，大弦 （汉·索罗） 阿达米，卡特鲁，德兰·沃克，博特，托米涅，阿伦 （碎裂帝国） 凯斯·达莫隆，鲁洛，塔克，勒尔·杜瓦特，唐塔·吉塞特，古林，科罗，艾伯·尼瑞诺，胡隆 （波·达莫隆） 特雷克斯，卡恩·贝，伊辛，威尔，科拉克，格雷克，科兰德鲁斯 对我来说，看起来这远远超过了漫威引进的女性人物数量。而且嘿，这些男性中大多数比你提到的一些女性角色更有个性（真的吗？把“未确认的女性军官”作为你的女性角色清单的一部分？真丢人）",0 1445,dj3ns6q,"All human jobs? I know you can program AI's for music and art, but I'm sure there will still be human artists and entertainers in 120 years. And what about the medical field? It would be ignorant to assume that we know of every possible disease. I'm sure we'll be introduced to new ones in the coming century. If an AI fails to recognize a new disease, would it really make a good doctor or surgeon? What about programmers and technicians? We will still need humans to design, upgrade and maintain our robot technology for many years to come.","All human jobs? I know you can program AI's for music and art, but I'm sure there will still be human artists and entertainers in 120 years. And what about the medical field? It would be ignorant to assume that we know of every possible disease. I'm sure we'll be introduced to new ones in the coming century. If an AI fails to recognize a new disease, would it really make a good doctor or surgeon? What about programmers and technicians? We will still need humans to design, upgrade and maintain our robot technology for many years to come.","所有的人类工作？我知道你可以为音乐和艺术编写AI程序，但我敢肯定在120年后仍会有人类艺术家和演艺人员。 那医学领域呢？我们假设我们了解每种可能的疾病是愚蠢的。我敢肯定在未来世纪我们会遇到新的疾病。如果AI无法识别新疾病，它真的能成为一名好医生或外科医生吗？ 那程序员和技术人员呢？我们还需要人类来设计、升级和维护我们的机器人技术很多年。",1 4595,dj4ts7n,"Doctor's cost a fortune. A nurse for the hands on stuff, following orders from AI, would be infinitely cheaper and just as good. ","Doctor's cost a fortune. A nurse for the hands on stuff, following orders from AI, would be infinitely cheaper and just as good.",医生收费太贵了。找个护士来做一些实际操作的事情，听从AI的指令，会便宜得多，而且效果一样好。,1 2907,dj5hcvu,"Name an industry where AI isn't being developed to replace a major core functionality? Business? Check. Medicine? Check - Watson already outperforms doctors. Transportation? Check. Farming? Check - hell the way lab-grown meat and dairy research is going and microfarming is going, there are multiple factions of AI research battling each other for supremacy. Shopping? Check. Construction? Check.","Name an industry where AI isn't being developed to replace a major core functionality? Business? Check. Medicine? Check - Watson already outperforms doctors. Transportation? Check. Farming? Check - hell the way lab-grown meat and dairy research is going and microfarming is going, there are multiple factions of AI research battling each other for supremacy. Shopping? Check. Construction? Check.","有没有一个行业，人工智能还没开始发展来取代核心功能？ 商业？有了。医学？嗯，已经有Watson表现比医生更好了。交通？有了。农业？也有了 - 实验室培育肉类和奶制品研究以及小规模农业的发展，有多个人工智能研究派别在争夺主导地位。购物？有了。建筑行业？也有了。",1 3832,dj77z55,"Part of it may be a matter of perspective. Not of the people regarding the AI, but of the AI itself. Data and the EMH have one thing in common - a perspective comparable to that of a human life form (specifically human in this case, as both Data and the EMH are the creation of human engineers). They see the world from a perspective that a human can associate with, and can interact with humans in a direct and personal manner. That's part of the reason they're built that way, rather than being disembodied computers with an array of specialised tools. And, in that way, they can be compassionate and empathetic in the way that humans can be, because they have that common reference frame - they can befriend other people, and have social, professional, and even intimate relationships, just like the people around them. That in turn gives them the potential to learn of the value of lives in a natural way. It also gives them a context independent of the ship - the Doctor does not think of himself as part of Voyager, but rather, someone who lives there. That his ""quarters"" are a part of the ship's computer is irrelevant to his self-image as a member of the crew. The M5 didn't have that. It was a box plugged into the ship. It didn't have any frame of reference to consider the people on board the Enterprise or the other ships, and didn't really have any way to relate to them. That's not necessarily a problem if the ship is entirely automated, but it doesn't mean that it's commanding the vessel, merely controlling it. Data can be trusted to command a starship not necessarily because of what he is, but because of who he is - a person with the skills, expertise, and experience to command a starship - he's a Starfleet officer because of his training, and he earned the rank of Lieutenant Commander (and his many decorations) through his actions. The EMH starts as a tool - his expertise as a doctor is programmed - but he earns a place amongst the Voyager crew through necessity, interacting with them socially as well as professionally. As the ECH, it is as much a testament to his character that he is given the opportunity to command - he is given command because of who he is, regardless of his skills. And that, I think, is the difference. In Starfleet, people command starships. That the ECH is artificial doesn't change the fact that the Doctor is a person to the Voyager crew - he's a friend and colleague, not just a piece of equipment by that point. And taking orders from a person who happens to be artificial doesn't matter if you trust that person's judgement.","Part of it may be a matter of perspective. Not of the people regarding the AI, but of the AI itself. Data and the EMH have one thing in common - a perspective comparable to that of a human life form (specifically human in this case, as both Data and the EMH are the creation of human engineers). They see the world from a perspective that a human can associate with, and can interact with humans in a direct and personal manner. That's part of the reason they're built that way, rather than being disembodied computers with an array of specialised tools. And, in that way, they can be compassionate and empathetic in the way that humans can be, because they have that common reference frame - they can befriend other people, and have social, professional, and even intimate relationships, just like the people around them. That in turn gives them the potential to learn of the value of lives in a natural way. It also gives them a context independent of the ship - the Doctor does not think of himself as part of Voyager, but rather, someone who lives there. That his ""quarters"" are a part of the ship's computer is irrelevant to his self-image as a member of the crew. The M5 didn't have that. It was a box plugged into the ship. It didn't have any frame of reference to consider the people on board the Enterprise or the other ships, and didn't really have any way to relate to them. That's not necessarily a problem if the ship is entirely automated, but it doesn't mean that it's commanding the vessel, merely controlling it. Data can be trusted to command a starship not necessarily because of what he is, but because of who he is - a person with the skills, expertise, and experience to command a starship - he's a Starfleet officer because of his training, and he earned the rank of Lieutenant Commander (and his many decorations) through his actions. The EMH starts as a tool - his expertise as a doctor is programmed - but he earns a place amongst the Voyager crew through necessity, interacting with them socially as well as professionally. As the ECH, it is as much a testament to his character that he is given the opportunity to command - he is given command because of who he is, regardless of his skills. And that, I think, is the difference. In Starfleet, people command starships. That the ECH is artificial doesn't change the fact that the Doctor is a person to the Voyager crew - he's a friend and colleague, not just a piece of equipment by that point. And taking orders from a person who happens to be artificial doesn't matter if you trust that person's judgement.",这段话主要是在讨论人工智能与艾米豪在Starfleet中的地位和作用。Data和EMH有一个共同之处-他们的视角比较类似于人类生命形式。他们可以像人类一样与人进行直接、亲密的交流。这也使得他们有可能以一种自然的方式学会价值观。而M5则不具备这一特质，它只是一个连接在飞船上的盒子，没有任何参照物来考虑飞船上的人。Data之所以能够信任指挥一艘星舰，不仅仅是因为他的能力，更是因为他是一名具有技能、专业知识和经验的人。而EMH则是通过与船员的互动，社交和职业化，最终作为ECH获得了指挥权。在Starfleet，人们指挥星舰。ECH虽然是人工的，但对Voyager船员来说，Doctor更像是一个朋友和同事，而不仅是一件设备。,0 2073,dj7jbl7,"Don’t forget that you are the customer. If they are not helpful or make you feel like your questions are a bother, they will not be any better in person. Write down your questions and grade their responses. Don’t ask them to treat over the phone or give you advice over the phone. They will be very hesitant. Make sure your questions are general and about their past experience, not about your specific case. Here’s an example: 1) Roughly how many men do you treat for low testosterone? 2) Do you test estrogen and have you used an AI to control levels if necessary? 3) Do you prescribe HcG as part of therapy. 4) Do you prescribe testosterone cyp for self-injections? Here’s how I would grade them: 1) If they know a number you’re in luck. A buddy of mine just started and the doctor was very proud that he treats over 300 men for testosterone replacement. My current doctor (who I like) didn’t give me a number. 2) If they say no, go somewhere else. 3) Some doctors use HcG, some don’t and I think both have merit. But if they have never heard of it, it tells you they haven’t done any research on the topic recently. 4) If they say they only use gel, find another doctor. If they say you must come in for a shot, find another doctor. Even though you are in a rural area, it is likely that you will find a doctor that is interested in the subject. Maybe they have a husband, brother, dad, or they themselves are taking treatment. If they have a personal connection they may have taken the effort to study up on what it takes to be successful. It’s really a numbers game. If you ask enough doctors, you will find somebody. It’s likely that you won’t get to talk to the doctor directly but you can ask the physician assistant or a nurse. They will likely consult with the doctor and return your call later. Some of them will make you feel stupid or unimportant. Don’t let this dissuade you. This is valuable information since you know not to go there in person. Don’t be afraid to give them a brief personal story over the phone to get them interested in helping you – these people are human. You can say that your husband has been diagnosed with low testosterone and treatment is not working. You are looking for an alternate doctor to help you as this condition has almost destroyed your marriage and this is your last shot to save it. Ask them to please answer your questions so that you can find the best doctor. Your marriage will not survive without their help. I didn’t take this approach but I would think you would get their full attention. ","Dont forget that you are the customer. If they are not helpful or make you feel like your questions are a bother, they will not be any better in person. Write down your questions and grade their responses. Dont ask them to treat over the phone or give you advice over the phone. They will be very hesitant. Make sure your questions are general and about their past experience, not about your specific case. Heres an example: 1) Roughly how many men do you treat for low testosterone? 2) Do you test estrogen and have you used an AI to control levels if necessary? 3) Do you prescribe HcG as part of therapy. 4) Do you prescribe testosterone cyp for self-injections? Heres how I would grade them: 1) If they know a number youre in luck. A buddy of mine just started and the doctor was very proud that he treats over 300 men for testosterone replacement. My current doctor (who I like) didnt give me a number. 2) If they say no, go somewhere else. 3) Some doctors use HcG, some dont and I think both have merit. But if they have never heard of it, it tells you they havent done any research on the topic recently. 4) If they say they only use gel, find another doctor. If they say you must come in for a shot, find another doctor. Even though you are in a rural area, it is likely that you will find a doctor that is interested in the subject. Maybe they have a husband, brother, dad, or they themselves are taking treatment. If they have a personal connection they may have taken the effort to study up on what it takes to be successful. Its really a numbers game. If you ask enough doctors, you will find somebody. Its likely that you wont get to talk to the doctor directly but you can ask the physician assistant or a nurse. They will likely consult with the doctor and return your call later. Some of them will make you feel stupid or unimportant. Dont let this dissuade you. This is valuable information since you know not to go there in person. Dont be afraid to give them a brief personal story over the phone to get them interested in helping you these people are human. You can say that your husband has been diagnosed with low testosterone and treatment is not working. You are looking for an alternate doctor to help you as this condition has almost destroyed your marriage and this is your last shot to save it. Ask them to please answer your questions so that you can find the best doctor. Your marriage will not survive without their help. I didnt take this approach but I would think you would get their full attention.","别忘了你是顾客。如果他们没什么帮助或让你觉得提问题很烦人，那他们亲自见面也不会更好。 把你的问题写下来，给他们的回答打分。不要让他们在电话上给你治疗或者建议。他们可能会很犹豫。确保你的问题是一般性的，关于他们过去的经验，而不是关于你特定情况的问题。举个例子： 1) 大概你们治疗多少男性的低睾酮？ 2) 你们检测雌激素了吗，有没有用人工智能来控制水平？ 3) 你们在治疗中使用HcG吗？ 4) 你们开处方给人自己注射睾酮酯吗？ 我的评分方法是这样的： 1) 如果他们知道数字，你很幸运。我一个朋友刚开始治疗，医生很自豪地说他曾治疗过300多个男性进行睾酮替代治疗。我现在的医生（我喜欢他）没有给我一个数字。 2) 如果他们说没，去找别的地方。 3) 有些医生用HcG，有些不用，我认为两者都有优点。但如果他们从来没听说过，说明他们最近没有对这个话题进行过研究。 4) 如果他们说他们只用凝胶，找别的医生。如果他们说你必须到医院注射，找别的医生。 即使你在农村地区，很可能你会找到一个对这个课题感兴趣的医生。也许他们有丈夫、哥哥、父亲，或者他们自己在进行治疗。如果他们有个人的联系，他们可能会努力去研究成功所需的知识。其实这只是个数字游戏。你问足够多的医生，总会找到一个人。 很可能你不会直接和医生交谈，但你可以问医生助理或者护士。他们可能会与医生商量后再回电话给你。其中一些可能会让你觉得愚蠢或不重要。但不要被这种行为吓倒。这是有价值的信息，因为你知道不要亲自去那个医院。 不要害怕在电话中给他们略微个人化的故事，让他们对帮助你感兴趣——这些人也是人。你可以说你丈夫被诊断为低睾酮，治疗无效。你正在寻找另一个医生帮助你，因为这个情况几乎摧毁了你们的婚姻，而这是你最后的机会来挽救它。请求他们回答你的问题，这样你才能找到最好的医生。如果没有他们的帮助，你的婚姻将无法继续。我没有采用这种方法，但我想你会得到他们的全神贯注。",0 4119,djc1nlh,"I suspect this is just a channel for DeepMind to get patient data, following the criticism of the previous contract with Royal Free Trust. They've actually got a pretty difficult line to walk in that respect, since they need access to the (messy) patient data held by hospital trusts to build out an actual project, but patients don't really trust corporate handling of sensitive medical data. So this becomes a small, relatively benign project to build trust with the public and doctors, and let them prove the concept of what they can do once they have less restricted access to the medical records. Whether it's within the strict scope of the sub, it's an interesting development of the story imo, and may have issues relevant to people working in medical AI applications.","I suspect this is just a channel for DeepMind to get patient data, following the criticism of the previous contract with Royal Free Trust. They've actually got a pretty difficult line to walk in that respect, since they need access to the (messy) patient data held by hospital trusts to build out an actual project, but patients don't really trust corporate handling of sensitive medical data. So this becomes a small, relatively benign project to build trust with the public and doctors, and let them prove the concept of what they can do once they have less restricted access to the medical records. Whether it's within the strict scope of the sub, it's an interesting development of the story imo, and may have issues relevant to people working in medical AI applications.",我怀疑这只是DeepMind获取病人数据的一个途径，这是在之前与Royal Free Trust签订的合同受到批评之后。他们实际上在这方面有相当困难的平衡要找，因为他们需要获取医院信托机构保存的（混乱的）病人数据来建立一个实际项目，但病人并不真的相信企业处理敏感的医疗数据。所以这成为一个相对温和的小项目，用来建立与公众和医生之间的信任，并让他们证明一旦他们对医疗记录的访问限制减少之后，他们可以做些什么。无论是否符合子合同的严格范围，我认为这是一个故事发展的有趣发展，可能与从事医疗AI应用的人们有相关问题。,1 3239,djhrtjj,"Most tech-savy people that I've ever met, including early adopters, are all about showing off. All it would take would be one cookie unboxing video on YouTube for Cookie, Inc.'s ""secret"" to be blown. The minute you hear Jon Hamm say ""How about six months?"" you know that he's not dealing with ""just a computer algorithm."" Again, a computer algorithm wouldn't care how long it's held in isolation or made to listen to the same song. Only a person would care. Which begs the question how they can both view them as both ""just algorithms"" but also use methods of torture that only work on humans. When was the last time that you tortured your OS for being glitchy? When was the last time you tortured your computer because it wouldn't start up? Nobody would even think to torture a computer. If Jon Hamm truly views Greta's cookie just a computer program, why doesn't he try traditional debugging methods when she won't work? Take Star Trek: Voyager for instance. They treat the Emergency Medical Hologram as a person, in fact even view him as such. But even when he has glitches, their first instinct is to try to debug his program. There actually is a great episode called Latent Image [where he has a critical malfunction (AKA mental breakdown)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxmmlfoYYso) because he chose to save his friend over another patient who he didn't personally know. Even though they both had an equal chance of survival. The first thing that they tried was debugging his program and wiping his entire memory of the incident (until he discovers it). It wasn't until they accepted that he was having a philosophical crisis that they tried a method that would only work on a person to ""fix"" him. (Letting him think it out in a room by himself, though with reading material and human company and not the sort of isolation that we see done to the cookies). BTW I would've taken any Doctor episode of Voyager over White Christmas. I think Voyager deals with artificial intelligence in a far more realistic way than White Christmas did.","Most tech-savy people that I've ever met, including early adopters, are all about showing off. All it would take would be one cookie unboxing video on YouTube for Cookie, Inc.'s ""secret"" to be blown. The minute you hear Jon Hamm say ""How about six months?"" you know that he's not dealing with ""just a computer algorithm."" Again, a computer algorithm wouldn't care how long it's held in isolation or made to listen to the same song. Only a person would care. Which begs the question how they can both view them as both ""just algorithms"" but also use methods of torture that only work on humans. When was the last time that you tortured your OS for being glitchy? When was the last time you tortured your computer because it wouldn't start up? Nobody would even think to torture a computer. If Jon Hamm truly views Greta's cookie just a computer program, why doesn't he try traditional debugging methods when she won't work? Take Star Trek: Voyager for instance. They treat the Emergency Medical Hologram as a person, in fact even view him as such. But even when he has glitches, their first instinct is to try to debug his program. There actually is a great episode called Latent Image where he has a critical malfunction (AKA mental breakdown)(https:www.youtube.comwatch?vlxmmlfoYYso) because he chose to save his friend over another patient who he didn't personally know. Even though they both had an equal chance of survival. The first thing that they tried was debugging his program and wiping his entire memory of the incident (until he discovers it). It wasn't until they accepted that he was having a philosophical crisis that they tried a method that would only work on a person to ""fix"" him. (Letting him think it out in a room by himself, though with reading material and human company and not the sort of isolation that we see done to the cookies). BTW I would've taken any Doctor episode of Voyager over White Christmas. I think Voyager deals with artificial intelligence in a far more realistic way than White Christmas did.","大多数我见过的科技达人，包括早期采用者，都喜欢炫耀。在YouTube上只要有一个Cookie公司的开箱视频，它的“秘密”就会被揭露。当你听到琼·汉姆说“六个月怎么样？”时，你就知道他不仅仅在处理“计算机算法”。再说了，计算机算法并不在乎被孤立多久或者被迫听同一首歌。只有人会在乎。 这就引出了一个问题，他们怎么能把它们都视为“只是算法”，但又使用只对人类有效的酷刑方法。上次你因为操作系统出现故障而折磨它是什么时候？上次你因为电脑无法启动而折磨它是什么时候？没人会想去折磨一台电脑。如果琼·汉姆真的把格蕾塔的cookie视为只是一个计算机程序，为什么他没有在她不工作时尝试传统的调试方法呢？ 拿《星际迷航：航海家号》来说。他们把紧急医疗全息影像看做一个人，实际上视为人类一样对待他。但即使他出现故障，他们的第一反应也是尝试调试他的程序。实际上有一集叫作“潜在图像”[他出现了关键故障（也就是精神崩溃）](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxmmlfoYYso)，因为他选择了救他的朋友而不是另一个他并不认识的病人。尽管他们两个的存活几率是一样的。他们尝试的第一件事就是调试他的程序并擦除他对这次事件的全部记忆(直到他自己发现)。直到他们承认他正在经历哲学危机时，他们才尝试一种只对人有效的方法来“修复”他。（让他一个人在房间里思考，尽管有阅读材料和人类陪伴，并不是我们看到对cookie采取的那种孤立做法）。 顺便说一句，我宁愿观看《航海家号》的任何一集医生的故事，也不愿看《白色圣诞节》。我想《航海家号》对待人工智能的方式要比《白色圣诞节》更加真实。",0 1016,djojuhr,"I don't know why you think personal incentive necessarily goes away with socialism. Obviously doctors and engineers are compensated more than ""toilet scrubbers."" But both are paid a wage they can comfortably live on, both have free access to education, and both have democratic control of their workplace. Everyone has equal opportunity. I agree, any system that expects people to just do the right thing is doomed to fail. The incentives have to change. That's why I'm talking about full democratic control from the bottom-up. You're right, automation and artificial intelligence will make socialism much more possible. Is my ""basic language"" sufficient to explain? I'm sorry I don't have the time to write a short academic essay and respond like a condescending asshole. ","I don't know why you think personal incentive necessarily goes away with socialism. Obviously doctors and engineers are compensated more than ""toilet scrubbers."" But both are paid a wage they can comfortably live on, both have free access to education, and both have democratic control of their workplace. Everyone has equal opportunity. I agree, any system that expects people to just do the right thing is doomed to fail. The incentives have to change. That's why I'm talking about full democratic control from the bottom-up. You're right, automation and artificial intelligence will make socialism much more possible. Is my ""basic language"" sufficient to explain? I'm sorry I don't have the time to write a short academic essay and respond like a condescending asshole.","没有错。我认为个人的动力在社会主义下不一定会消失。显然，医生和工程师的报酬比“洗手间清洁工”高。但他们都有足够生活的工资，都有免费教育，都对工作场所具有民主控制权。每个人都有平等的机会。 同意，任何通过期望人们做正确事情而成功的制度注定会失败。激励必须改变。这就是为什么我谈论从底层开始的完全民主控制。 你说得对，自动化和人工智能会使社会主义更加可能。 我的“基本语言”能解释清楚吗？对不起，我没有时间写一篇简短的学术论文，也不想以不屑的态度回答。",1 2604,djq2zwg,"I doubt she will need medication for the rest of her life. Within 20 years it's highly likely we will be able to repair almost any damage to organs. The point will come where we use artificial intelligence to create and build better AI and there will be exponential advances in all fields or science and medicine. Even without that, advances in genetics and nanotechnology will have an incredible impact. One outcome might be growing a new pituitary gland from her DNA and a robot surgeon implanting it with laser like precision, but it's impossible to tell if such invasive treatment won't be seen as outdated and barbaric by then. Finally, even if medicine simply improves at a non-exponential rate, medications and drug delivery will advance and side effects will be mitigated....this is your worst case scenario. Best wishes and keep the hope.","I doubt she will need medication for the rest of her life. Within 20 years it's highly likely we will be able to repair almost any damage to organs. The point will come where we use artificial intelligence to create and build better AI and there will be exponential advances in all fields or science and medicine. Even without that, advances in genetics and nanotechnology will have an incredible impact. One outcome might be growing a new pituitary gland from her DNA and a robot surgeon implanting it with laser like precision, but it's impossible to tell if such invasive treatment won't be seen as outdated and barbaric by then. Finally, even if medicine simply improves at a non-exponential rate, medications and drug delivery will advance and side effects will be mitigated....this is your worst case scenario. Best wishes and keep the hope.",我怀疑她会需要终身服药。在20年内，我们很有可能能够修复几乎任何器官的损伤。到了那个时候，我们将利用人工智能来创造和构建更好的人工智能，并在所有科学和医学领域都将会有成倍的进步。即使没有人工智能，基因和纳米技术的进步也会有令人难以置信的影响。其中一个结果可能是从她的DNA中培育出一个新的垂体，然后通过机器人外科医生进行准确的激光植入，但到那时，这种侵入性治疗是否会被视为过时和野蛮还不得而知。最后，即使医学仅以非成倍率改善，药物和药物传递也会进步，副作用也会得到缓解...这是最坏的情况。祝一切顺利，保持希望。,1 160,djtoyc7,"There are other things to consider: There is a physical storage module that holds backup copy of EMH. So why they can't replicate more of such modules and keep all copies in sync just in case something happens? Also in TNG era they created a small module that contains not only a holomatrix of Moriarty and his girlfriend (and Moriarty is at least as complex as Vic Fontaine matrix), but entire holosimulation of universe. Granted, it probably didn't ran real time, but still it held a complex piece of software in small package and kept it running. So storage capacity should not be a problem for creating multi-EMH environment. So why when Doctor obtains portable holoemiter, he is transferred back and forth by cut/paste command instead of copy/paste? First general purpose computers were capable of copying files, so why XXIV technology devolved? In early TNG episode Bynars demonstrated they are much more capable holoprogrammers than anyone else. So why Voyager doesn't have any holomatrices as capable as Minuet was? On creating EMH, one episode (*Message in a bottle*) had shown us how hard it is, but in other episode (*Nothing human* I think) they made a exobiologist holomatrix in matter of hours. It wasn't too stable yet it was as capable as the Doctor in that one, narrow field of expertise. So why they didn't make Emergency Nurse Hologram (to assist EMH), Emergency Redshirt Hologram (to die horribly), Emergency Security Holograms (to hold down aggressive patients)? Starships designed like USS Prometheus could use both ERH and ESH for protection of the crew. I think Federation is afraid of any AI developments. Their fear is pointless because they can protect themselves against AI that went wrong. Unless they are more stupid than we are and can't think of any ways to limit and control AI so they rather ban it altogether, not counting few domain-limited cases, like Vic Fontaine or EMH...","There are other things to consider: There is a physical storage module that holds backup copy of EMH. So why they can't replicate more of such modules and keep all copies in sync just in case something happens? Also in TNG era they created a small module that contains not only a holomatrix of Moriarty and his girlfriend (and Moriarty is at least as complex as Vic Fontaine matrix), but entire holosimulation of universe. Granted, it probably didn't ran real time, but still it held a complex piece of software in small package and kept it running. So storage capacity should not be a problem for creating multi-EMH environment. So why when Doctor obtains portable holoemiter, he is transferred back and forth by cutpaste command instead of copypaste? First general purpose computers were capable of copying files, so why XXIV technology devolved? In early TNG episode Bynars demonstrated they are much more capable holoprogrammers than anyone else. So why Voyager doesn't have any holomatrices as capable as Minuet was? On creating EMH, one episode (Message in a bottle) had shown us how hard it is, but in other episode (Nothing human I think) they made a exobiologist holomatrix in matter of hours. It wasn't too stable yet it was as capable as the Doctor in that one, narrow field of expertise. So why they didn't make Emergency Nurse Hologram (to assist EMH), Emergency Redshirt Hologram (to die horribly), Emergency Security Holograms (to hold down aggressive patients)? Starships designed like USS Prometheus could use both ERH and ESH for protection of the crew. I think Federation is afraid of any AI developments. Their fear is pointless because they can protect themselves against AI that went wrong. Unless they are more stupid than we are and can't think of any ways to limit and control AI so they rather ban it altogether, not counting few domain-limited cases, like Vic Fontaine or EMH...","还有一些要考虑的事情： 有一个物理存储模块，用于保存EMH的备份副本。那为什么他们不能复制更多这样的模块，并保持所有副本同步，以防发生意外呢？ 在TNG时代，他们创建了一个小模块，里面不仅包含了Moriarty和他的女朋友的全息矩阵（而Moriarty至少和Vic Fontaine矩阵一样复杂），还包含整个宇宙的全息模拟。当然，它可能并不是实时运行，但它仍然能在小包裹中持有复杂的软件，并使其运行。所以存储容量不应该成为创建多个EMH环境的问题。那么为什么医生获得便携式全息发射器后，却使用剪切/粘贴命令来回传送，而不是复制/粘贴呢？最早的通用计算机就能够复制文件，那么为什么XXIV技术会倒退呢？ 在早期的TNG剧集中，拜纳人展示了他们是比其他人更有能力的全息程序员。那为什么航空母舰没有像Minuet一样有能力的全息矩阵呢？ 关于创建EMH，一集（*瓶中信息*）向我们展示了它有多难，但在另一集（*无所作为*）中，他们在几小时内就创建了一位外星生物学家的全息矩阵。它虽然不够稳定，但在那个特定的领域里和医生一样有能力。那么为什么他们不制作紧急护士全息图（来协助EMH），紧急红衫全息图（来惨死），紧急安全全息图（来控制好斗的病人）呢？像USS普罗米修斯这样设计的星舰可以利用ERH和ESM来保护船员。 我觉得联邦害怕任何人工智能的发展。他们的恐惧是毫无意义的，因为他们可以保护自己免受出现问题的AI的影响。除非他们比我们更蠢，并且无法想出任何限制和控制AI的方法，所以他们宁愿完全禁止它，除了少数领域限定的情况，比如Vic Fontaine或EMH…",0 2471,djuonsp,"When you consider we've seen non-organic circuitry many many many times in the shows history, I'd say it matters. Pertwee's Doctor took the entire console outside the Tardis to work on it, and in the most recent episode we saw the Masters spare dematerialisation circuit. It's obvious there is a mechanical technological part to a TARDIS. The shell definitely seems to be built from something like coral, going by the deleted scenes from the RTD era. So the only logical conclusion is that the TARDIS is a hybrid of AI sentience, non-organic technology and organic technology.","When you consider we've seen non-organic circuitry many many many times in the shows history, I'd say it matters. Pertwee's Doctor took the entire console outside the Tardis to work on it, and in the most recent episode we saw the Masters spare dematerialisation circuit. It's obvious there is a mechanical technological part to a TARDIS. The shell definitely seems to be built from something like coral, going by the deleted scenes from the RTD era. So the only logical conclusion is that the TARDIS is a hybrid of AI sentience, non-organic technology and organic technology.","考虑到我们在节目历史上很多很多次看到了非有机电路，我会说这很重要。派翠的博士把整个控制台搬到了Tardis外面去修理，而在最近的一集中，我们看到了大师的备用解体电路。很明显TARDIS有机械技术的部分。 外壳看起来肯定是用类似珊瑚的东西建造的，根据RTD时代删除的片段。 所以唯一合逻辑的结论就是TARDIS是人工智能意识、非有机技术和有机技术的混合体。",0 756,djvdae4,"I think the answer is for us to specialize in what makes us human. The logical, the math gifted, the engineers and business giants will still be attracted to their fields. The doctor the lawyer (at least in the states) will last for a long time as well. There is no need to force people into those fields who are not naturally suited to them. Especially with automation ever increasing the productivity of the above professions. Computers will struggle to be funny, create art, be entertaining, engage in sports, enjoy nature, craft things by hand, etc. My hope is there becomes a renewed market for the bespoke item. It seems to exist for consumables like food and beverages. and in places it exists for furniture and clothes. The most common job in nearly every state in the US is driving a truck. That profession will be one of the first to go. You will still need them in the cab, but mostly as security, as there are pretty large ethical issues with arming a AI controlled vehicle (lethal in its own right) with outright weapons. So they won't even have a real skill like ability to drive an 18 wheeler, they will stare at computer screen with a taser in hand. Warehouse jobs--which are already being removed with robots--will go next. Eventually all links from the raw input to the point of sale will be handled by robots. A robotic network will manager the robotic drills for oil fields and mines. robotic hands will move the ore to a conveyor belt where it gets broken down and loaded onto a AI controlled dump truck and taken to a foundry. None of the steps need a human. A robotic hand and good assembly line can put it together and get it on a truck to ship. At the receiving destination, robots can stock in on shelves and we already have self check out. Algorithms--essentially AI--dictates what Wall Street buys and sells. Why not base business plans on that. At the end of the day, there is a 'right' way to do taxes, so Watson can do those. Operations is controlled by 10 guys who graduated by MIT and CALTech because the entire supply chain is automated--there are a few engineers scatted throughout the chain to troubleshoot on sight. Marketing still exists, but their decision making is so tied to big data there is little room for creativity. Hell who even needs soldiers, lets just use bipedal robots and drones to fight our wars. No one gets hurt, just titanium strewn about a desert....apparently the side that lost more Mark 10s was supposed to cede some territory... At a certain point, the ability is there (hopefully the collective desire isn't) for us to replace ourselves. To take the universal living wage and fuck off to our public housing (built by robots) and play World of Warcraft all day, because at least there we can progress ourselves. ","I think the answer is for us to specialize in what makes us human. The logical, the math gifted, the engineers and business giants will still be attracted to their fields. The doctor the lawyer (at least in the states) will last for a long time as well. There is no need to force people into those fields who are not naturally suited to them. Especially with automation ever increasing the productivity of the above professions. Computers will struggle to be funny, create art, be entertaining, engage in sports, enjoy nature, craft things by hand, etc. My hope is there becomes a renewed market for the bespoke item. It seems to exist for consumables like food and beverages. and in places it exists for furniture and clothes. The most common job in nearly every state in the US is driving a truck. That profession will be one of the first to go. You will still need them in the cab, but mostly as security, as there are pretty large ethical issues with arming a AI controlled vehicle (lethal in its own right) with outright weapons. So they won't even have a real skill like ability to drive an 18 wheeler, they will stare at computer screen with a taser in hand. Warehouse jobs--which are already being removed with robots--will go next. Eventually all links from the raw input to the point of sale will be handled by robots. A robotic network will manager the robotic drills for oil fields and mines. robotic hands will move the ore to a conveyor belt where it gets broken down and loaded onto a AI controlled dump truck and taken to a foundry. None of the steps need a human. A robotic hand and good assembly line can put it together and get it on a truck to ship. At the receiving destination, robots can stock in on shelves and we already have self check out. Algorithms--essentially AI--dictates what Wall Street buys and sells. Why not base business plans on that. At the end of the day, there is a 'right' way to do taxes, so Watson can do those. Operations is controlled by 10 guys who graduated by MIT and CALTech because the entire supply chain is automated--there are a few engineers scatted throughout the chain to troubleshoot on sight. Marketing still exists, but their decision making is so tied to big data there is little room for creativity. Hell who even needs soldiers, lets just use bipedal robots and drones to fight our wars. No one gets hurt, just titanium strewn about a desert....apparently the side that lost more Mark 10s was supposed to cede some territory... At a certain point, the ability is there (hopefully the collective desire isn't) for us to replace ourselves. To take the universal living wage and fuck off to our public housing (built by robots) and play World of Warcraft all day, because at least there we can progress ourselves.","我觉得答案是我们要专注于让我们成为人的独特能力。 那些逻辑性强的、数学天才、工程师和商业巨头依然会被他们的领域所吸引。医生和律师(至少在美国)也会在职场上长久存在。没有必要强迫那些不适合从事这些职业的人进入这些领域。尤其是在自动化设备不断提高以上职业生产效率的情况下。 计算机很难幽默，创作艺术，娱乐，参与体育运动，享受自然，手工制作等。 我希望市场能再次出现对定制产品的需求。似乎这种需求已经存在于食品和饮料领域，以及家具和服装领域。 在美国几乎每个州最普遍的工作是卡车司机。这个职业将是首批被淘汰的。虽然仍需要他们在驾驶室里，但主要是为了安全，因为让AI控制的车辆(本身具有致命性)配备武器存在相当大的道德问题。所以他们甚至不具备实际技能，比方说能开大卡车，只能盯着电脑屏幕手持一支电击器。 仓库工作--已经有机器人在接替--将会接下来被淘汰。最终，从原材料到销售点的所有环节都将由机器人来处理。 机器人网络将管理油田和矿山的机器钻井。机器手将把矿石传送到传送带上，然后被分解并装载到AI控制的自卸卡车上，然后运往冶炼厂。这些环节都不需要人类。一个机器手和一个良好的装配线就能把制成品组装起来并装上卡车运输。在接收地点，机器人可以把制成品存放到货架上，我们已经有自助结账了。 算法--实际上就是人工智能--决定了华尔街的买卖。为什么不以此为基础制定商业计划呢。到头来，纳税的方式是“正确”的，所以沃森可以处理这些。 运营由毕业于麻省理工和加州理工的10个家伙控制，因为整个供应链都是自动化的--供应链中还有一些工程师散布其中来进行现场故障排除。 市场仍然存在，但他们的决策过程与大数据紧密相关，几乎没有创造力的空间。 甚至连士兵都不再需要了，我们只需使用双腿机器人和无人机来打仗。没有人会受伤，只是钛金属碎片散落在沙漠上....显然，失去更多马尔克10号的一方应该割让一些领土... 在某个阶段，虽然我们有能力(希望我们的集体欲望没有)来取代我们自己。 只需拿到基本生活补贴，然后走向我们的公共住房(由机器人建造)，整天玩《魔兽世界》，至少我们可以在游戏里提升自己。",1 844,djwovha,"From the abstract: > We develop an algorithm which exceeds the performance of board certified cardiologists in detecting a wide range of heart arrhythmias from electrocardiograms recorded with a single-lead wearable monitor. We build a dataset with more than 500 times the number of unique patients than previously studied corpora. On this dataset, we train a 34-layer convolutional neural network which maps a sequence of ECG samples to a sequence of rhythm classes. Committees of boardcertified cardiologists annotate a gold standard test set on which we compare the performance of our model to that of 6 other individual cardiologists. We exceed the average cardiologist performance in both recall (sensitivity) and precision (positive predictive value) Some very big names in AI on this paper (Andrew Ng, for starters). While the model outperforms cardiologists in identifying arrhythmias from single lead EKG's, it's interesting to see where the model gets it wrong. Some of the models most likely mis-classifications: * Misclassify Mobitz II block as Mobitz I block * AFib as atrial flutter * Ectopic atrial rhythm as sinus rhythm ","From the abstract: gt; We develop an algorithm which exceeds the performance of board certified cardiologists in detecting a wide range of heart arrhythmias from electrocardiograms recorded with a single-lead wearable monitor. We build a dataset with more than 500 times the number of unique patients than previously studied corpora. On this dataset, we train a 34-layer convolutional neural network which maps a sequence of ECG samples to a sequence of rhythm classes. Committees of boardcertified cardiologists annotate a gold standard test set on which we compare the performance of our model to that of 6 other individual cardiologists. We exceed the average cardiologist performance in both recall (sensitivity) and precision (positive predictive value) Some very big names in AI on this paper (Andrew Ng, for starters). While the model outperforms cardiologists in identifying arrhythmias from single lead EKG's, it's interesting to see where the model gets it wrong. Some of the models most likely mis-classifications: Misclassify Mobitz II block as Mobitz I block AFib as atrial flutter Ectopic atrial rhythm as sinus rhythm","根据摘要： >我们开发了一种算法，它在使用单导联可穿戴心电图监测仪记录的心电图中检测多种心律失常方面的性能超过了经过认证的心脏病专家。我们构建了一个数据集，其中包含的独立患者数量比以前研究过的数据集要多500多倍。在这个数据集上，我们训练了一个由34层卷积神经网络组成的模型，该模型可以将一系列心电图样本映射到一系列心律分类中。由经过认证的心脏病专家组成的委员会对其中一个被标记为黄金标准测试集，我们在这个测试集上比较了我们模型的性能和其他6名单个心脏病专家的性能。我们在召回率（敏感性）和准确率（阳性预测值）方面都超过了平均心脏病专家的表现。 这篇论文中有一些人工智能领域很有名的人参与（首先是Andrew Ng）。虽然这个模型在从单导心电图中识别心律失常方面表现优于心脏病专家，但有趣的是看到模型犯错的地方。 模型最有可能犯错的地方有： * 把Mobitz II型阻滞误判为Mobitz I型阻滞 * 把心房颤动误判为心房扑动 * 把异位心房节律误判为窦性心律",1 3798,djyhb2a,"I used to think this way, thenbi got sick, lost my career, and that nest egg I built on my own depleted to nothing in six months trying to feed the family and pay for medical bills. The only reason my kids didn't starve was wic and the goodwill of my family. We've managed to pull ourselves up and out a little bit, but a real social safety net would have allowed me to transition out of my career since I couldn't do it anymore and start my own business consulting - instead my wife went back to work and I got a part time job that was flexible with doctors appointments. Without the safety net and family we would have been absolutely fucked. This is going to happen en mass when automation starts replacing millions of jobs at a time. If you actually read Capital, Marx (despite being a total dipshit about a lot of stuff) actually predicted some of this economic behavior - he definitely got the timeline wrong, but the dude was smart (I don't agree with him on everything, but he was smart). We can do better than ""pull yourselves up by your boot straps,"" you need to understand that the economic system we have is probably more efficient than communism, but it's not always better for the individual. I'm a highly trained professional with a decade of relevant experience- having me file paperwork in an office in an unrelated field or pump gas isn't an efficient use of my skills and experience (luckily I was able to get work that that was related to my field, but the point remains). The market does not account for ""shit happening"" in life - it only cares about dollars and cents and when it becomes financially unsustainable to retain the 3 million truck drivers, cabbies, and pizza delivery boys in this country, the market will dump them with no mercy. People worry about what happens when we invent AI and it maximizes paper clip production and turns the observable universe into paper clips. What most people don't realize is that capitalism is that AI - we've had it for several centuries. We've crowd source the AI and instead of maximizing paper clip production it's working to maximize profits.","I used to think this way, thenbi got sick, lost my career, and that nest egg I built on my own depleted to nothing in six months trying to feed the family and pay for medical bills. The only reason my kids didn't starve was wic and the goodwill of my family. We've managed to pull ourselves up and out a little bit, but a real social safety net would have allowed me to transition out of my career since I couldn't do it anymore and start my own business consulting - instead my wife went back to work and I got a part time job that was flexible with doctors appointments. Without the safety net and family we would have been absolutely fucked. This is going to happen en mass when automation starts replacing millions of jobs at a time. If you actually read Capital, Marx (despite being a total dipshit about a lot of stuff) actually predicted some of this economic behavior - he definitely got the timeline wrong, but the dude was smart (I don't agree with him on everything, but he was smart). We can do better than ""pull yourselves up by your boot straps,"" you need to understand that the economic system we have is probably more efficient than communism, but it's not always better for the individual. I'm a highly trained professional with a decade of relevant experience- having me file paperwork in an office in an unrelated field or pump gas isn't an efficient use of my skills and experience (luckily I was able to get work that that was related to my field, but the point remains). The market does not account for ""shit happening"" in life - it only cares about dollars and cents and when it becomes financially unsustainable to retain the 3 million truck drivers, cabbies, and pizza delivery boys in this country, the market will dump them with no mercy. People worry about what happens when we invent AI and it maximizes paper clip production and turns the observable universe into paper clips. What most people don't realize is that capitalism is that AI - we've had it for several centuries. We've crowd source the AI and instead of maximizing paper clip production it's working to maximize profits.","我过去也是这么想的，然后我生病了，失去了我的事业，我亲手打下的积蓄在六个月内变成了一文不值，都用来养家糊口和支付医疗费了。 我孩子们没饿着是因为政府的WIC计划和家人的善意。我们设法挺过来一点，但如果有真正的社会保障网络，我本可以过渡到自己的咨询业务，因为我无法继续从事本职工作- 但现在是我妻子重返职场，我找了一份可以灵活安排就医时间的兼职工作。如果没有社会保障网络和家人，我们简直就完了。 当自动化开始一次性取代数百万工作岗位时，这种情况会成批发生。如果你真的读过《资本论》，马克思（尽管在很多方面都是个笨蛋）实际上预测了其中一些经济行为- 他的时间轴肯定错了，但这家伙很聪明（我不是在所有事情上都同意他，但他很聪明）。我们可以比“自力更生”做得更好，你需要明白我们拥有的经济体系可能比共产主义更有效率，但并不总是更有利于个人。 我是一个经过高度培训的专业人士，有十年相关工作经验- 让我在跟本职领域不相关的办公室里整理文件或者给汽车加油并不是对我的技能和经验的有效利用（幸运的是我找到了与我领域相关的工作，但要点还在那里）。市场并不考虑生活中发生的“破事”，它只关心钱，当给这个国家的300万卡车司机、出租车司机和披萨外卖小哥们提供工作变得不可持续时，市场会毫不留情地裁员。 人们担心当我们发明了人工智能，它会最大化生产回形针并把可观察到的宇宙变成回形针。大多数人没有意识到的是，资本主义就是那个人工智能- 我们已经拥有了好几个世纪。我们把这个人工智能进行了众包，并且它不是在最大化回形针的生产，而是在最大化利润。",0 2370,dk2ysn7,"- Pawns AI should be smarter when using a minigun, and not fire when a colonist or ally is in range. - Add market value as a parameter to use when smelting/destroying/etc (so the player can keep stuff that is valuable). - Option to use a pawn to recruit family/lovers from allied factions without gaining bad will. - Pawns should never walk through fire. Ever. - Option to spay/neuter animals. Microing their offspring becomes a drag after a while if you don't want them. - More ""collectable"" miscellaneous items, like glow pods and telescopes. - (BUG) Pawns don't haul grenades or molotovs to stockpile zones that restrict item quality (the aforementioned don't have an item quality). - ""Doctor needed"" event. Thread explaining it can be found here: https://www.reddit.com/r/RimWorld/comments/6lgqb5/doctor_needed_event_allies_with_ailments_come_to/. Seems to be very well received! - Craftable bionic parts during the late game - requires significant resources and time to craft. - Animals put into a frenzy due to the ""revenge"" event should lose their ""manhunter"" status after downing/killing the pawn that triggered the event. Doesn't make sense that they attack the hunter and then decide to bumrush the colony without any sense of self-preservation. - (BUG) Hunter pawns that are incapable of hauling will haul the animal they hunted, but not when you tell them to do it manually. - Craftable hearing aids. Functions just like peg legs, but for hearing. - Tribals use war beasts during raids. Thread about it here: https://www.reddit.com/r/RimWorld/comments/6lryfj/what_if_raiding_tribals_used_war_beasts_to_attack/ - Ground-penetrating scanner will ""spawn"" more underground mining nodes every few months. Prevents long-term colonies from running out of mining spots. - Unforbidding tool (like harvest/mining tool) - Buff to address ""joy deprived"" when raiding an enemy. Raids are more important than playing horseshoes. - Randomly generated abandoned camps or structures that are discovered (rarely) while caravaning. Could contain valuable items, an injured recruitable pawn, or enemies. - A ""repair items bench"". Self-explanatory, but is only cost effective when repairing hard to make items like guns or power armor. Past suggestions: https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=34265.0","- Pawns AI should be smarter when using a minigun, and not fire when a colonist or ally is in range. - Add market value as a parameter to use when smeltingdestroyingetc (so the player can keep stuff that is valuable). - Option to use a pawn to recruit familylovers from allied factions without gaining bad will. - Pawns should never walk through fire. Ever. - Option to spayneuter animals. Microing their offspring becomes a drag after a while if you don't want them. - More ""collectable"" miscellaneous items, like glow pods and telescopes. - (BUG) Pawns don't haul grenades or molotovs to stockpile zones that restrict item quality (the aforementioned don't have an item quality). - ""Doctor needed"" event. Thread explaining it can be found here: https:www.reddit.comrRimWorldcomments6lgqb5doctorneededeventallieswithailmentscometo. Seems to be very well received! - Craftable bionic parts during the late game - requires significant resources and time to craft. - Animals put into a frenzy due to the ""revenge"" event should lose their ""manhunter"" status after downingkilling the pawn that triggered the event. Doesn't make sense that they attack the hunter and then decide to bumrush the colony without any sense of self-preservation. - (BUG) Hunter pawns that are incapable of hauling will haul the animal they hunted, but not when you tell them to do it manually. - Craftable hearing aids. Functions just like peg legs, but for hearing. - Tribals use war beasts during raids. Thread about it here: https:www.reddit.comrRimWorldcomments6lryfjwhatifraidingtribalsusedwarbeaststoattack - Ground-penetrating scanner will ""spawn"" more underground mining nodes every few months. Prevents long-term colonies from running out of mining spots. - Unforbidding tool (like harvestmining tool) - Buff to address ""joy deprived"" when raiding an enemy. Raids are more important than playing horseshoes. - Randomly generated abandoned camps or structures that are discovered (rarely) while caravaning. Could contain valuable items, an injured recruitable pawn, or enemies. - A ""repair items bench"". Self-explanatory, but is only cost effective when repairing hard to make items like guns or power armor. Past suggestions: https:ludeon.comforumsindex.php?topic34265.0","- 雇佣兵的智能应该在使用迷你加特枪时更加聪明，当殖民者或盟友在射程内时不应开火。 - 增加市场价值作为参数，在熔炼/销毁等时使用（这样玩家可以保留有价值的物品）。 - 选项可以使用雇佣兵从联盟派系招募家人/情人而不会失去好感。 - 雇佣兵绝对不应该走过火焰。绝对不行。 - 选项可以给动物绝育。如果你不想要它们的后代，那么过了一段时间要操心它们的后代会变得很烦。 - 更多“可收集”的杂项物品，比如发光的荚和望远镜。 - （BUG）雇佣兵不会把手榴弹或汽油瓶运到限制物品品质的储存区（前述物品没有品质值）。 - “需要医生”的事件。关于此问题的解释可以在这里找到：https://www.reddit.com/r/RimWorld/comments/6lgqb5/doctor_needed_event_allies_with_ailments_come_to/。看起来非常受欢迎！ - 游戏后期可以制作仿生部件-需要大量资源和时间来制作。 - 由于“复仇”事件而进入狂暴状态的动物在迎击/击败触发事件的雇佣兵后应该失去“追杀人”状态。它们攻击了猎人然后决定冲击殖民地而没有保持一点自我保护意识这不合理。 - （BUG）猎人雇佣兵虽然不能做运输却会把自己猎到的动物拉走，但当你让他们手动执行这个动作时就不会了。 - 可制作的助听器。就像义肢，但是用于听力。 - 部落人在袭击时使用战兽。关于此问题的讨论在这里：https://www.reddit.com/r/RimWorld/comments/6lryfj/what_if_raiding_tribals_used_war_beasts_to_attack/ - 地下扫描仪会每隔几个月“产生”更多地下开采点。防止长期殖民地用完矿点。 - 取消禁令工具（如收获/采矿工具） - 加强掠夺敌人时的“喜悦匮乏”补偿。袭击比玩马蹄更重要。 - 在进行商队旅行时偶然发现的被遗弃的营地或建筑。可能包含有价值的物品，一个受伤的可招募雇佣兵，或者敌人。 - 一个“修复物品台”。不言而喻，但只有在修复难以制造的物品（如枪械或动力装甲）时才划算。 以往的建议：https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=34265.0",0 2351,dk4bdi8,"90% of my doctor visits I walk out thinking: ""An AI could have done that better & more cost effectively."" Most doctors I've met threw in the towel cognitively as soon as they wrote their last exam. How do you feel about this?",90 of my doctor visits I walk out thinking: "An AI could have done that better amp; more cost effectively." Most doctors I've met threw in the towel cognitively as soon as they wrote their last exam. How do you feel about this?,"在我看病时，有90%的时候我都觉得： “让人工智能来做可能会更好也更划算。” 我遇到的大部分医生在他们通过最后一次考试后就放弃了认知上的努力。 你对此有什么感受？",1 436,dk4n4j9,"If you have elevated prolactin with out using a 19nor AAS I would visit a doctor (possibly endo) and have thyroid panel done. Thyroid is responsible for regulation on that. Adding Tren to the mix will only further fuck your situation. Also make it hard to diagnose what's going. If your thyroid is messed up its best to get that taken care of. Could be a source of your weight issue if your a hard loser I get standard E2 myself when not using Tren. But I also don't have a hard time dialing my AI. ",If you have elevated prolactin with out using a 19nor AAS I would visit a doctor (possibly endo) and have thyroid panel done. Thyroid is responsible for regulation on that. Adding Tren to the mix will only further fuck your situation. Also make it hard to diagnose what's going. If your thyroid is messed up its best to get that taken care of. Could be a source of your weight issue if your a hard loser I get standard E2 myself when not using Tren. But I also don't have a hard time dialing my AI.,"如果你的催乳素水平升高，而没有使用19nor AAS，我建议你去看医生（可能是内分泌科），做一次甲状腺检查。甲状腺负责调节这个。加入Tren只会让情况变得更糟。也会让诊断问题更加困难。如果你的甲状腺出了问题，最好及时解决。可能是你体重问题的原因，如果你很难减重。 我自己在不使用Tren的时候，会检查标准的E2水平。但我也不会在调节AI方面遇到困难。",0 2221,dk55fm2,"> /thread. You know what I mean by ""I'm not sure"". I invite you to explore the subject. If you want to argue about mental mechanisms, which has nothing to do with quantum physics: go ahead! But there is a parallel we can made with QP and thought mechanisms. It can maybe make us understand in a better way QP and the human mind, a new way to look at human consciousness, and to understand this can make us improve in artificial intelligence. Surely you can not make a link between how psychologists or neurologists describe the mind, and QP. Any description of the observed cannot entirely reflect or represent it, all descriptions are limited. So there is a link between QP and how our thought works and this is ? the phenomenon of the observer and the observed ? which is the core of the daily way of thinking of every human being.","gt; thread. You know what I mean by ""I'm not sure"". I invite you to explore the subject. If you want to argue about mental mechanisms, which has nothing to do with quantum physics: go ahead! But there is a parallel we can made with QP and thought mechanisms. It can maybe make us understand in a better way QP and the human mind, a new way to look at human consciousness, and to understand this can make us improve in artificial intelligence. Surely you can not make a link between how psychologists or neurologists describe the mind, and QP. Any description of the observed cannot entirely reflect or represent it, all descriptions are limited. So there is a link between QP and how our thought works and this is the phenomenon of the observer and the observed which is the core of the daily way of thinking of every human being.","你知道我说“我不确定”是什么意思。我邀请你来探讨这个话题。如果你想讨论与量子物理无关的心理机制，尽管说！但是，我们可以将量子物理和思维机制进行类比。也许这样能让我们更好地理解量子物理和人类思维，以一种新的方式去认识人类意识，并且理解这一点可以让我们在人工智能方面取得进步。 当然，你不能把心理学家或神经学家对心灵的描述与量子物理联系起来。对于被观察对象的任何描述都无法完全反映或代表它，所有描述都是有限的。 所以，量子物理和我们的思维方式有联系，这是观察者和被观察对象的现象，这是每个人日常思维方式的核心。",0 2978,dk60vs0,"That will just train the doctoring AI to be better, eventually it will be completely undetectable. ","That will just train the doctoring AI to be better, eventually it will be completely undetectable.",这样做只会让医疗人工智能变得更加优秀，最后它将会变得完全难以察觉。,1 4579,dk9ovub,Recently got tested for testosterone at 219ng/dL. My doctor has been trying to refer me to a TRT clinic but without any success. I'm going in next week to see him and I'm going to request that he treat me with 100mg per week of test e. Should I also be requesting an AI or SERM with that or should I wait until after my first blood test in 6 weeks?,Recently got tested for testosterone at 219ngdL. My doctor has been trying to refer me to a TRT clinic but without any success. I'm going in next week to see him and I'm going to request that he treat me with 100mg per week of test e. Should I also be requesting an AI or SERM with that or should I wait until after my first blood test in 6 weeks?,最近检测了一下睾酮，结果是219ng/dL。我的医生一直想把我转到一个TRT诊所，但一直没有成功。下周我要去看他，我会要求他给我每周注射100毫克的睾酮。我应该同时要求他给我使用AI或SERM，还是等到6周后的第一次血液检测再决定？,0 1421,dkcngxz,"Necro was sounding really fun, but I wanted to try out Rathma's and while I am leveling one right now, the pet AI just feels way too dumb to use properly. Same kinda goes Helltooth Witch Doctor although I am considering Zunimassa or Fire Bats because I remember back when I played I found at least the Fetish Army to be really fun because I feel like using Blow Darts actually kind of commands them.","Necro was sounding really fun, but I wanted to try out Rathma's and while I am leveling one right now, the pet AI just feels way too dumb to use properly. Same kinda goes Helltooth Witch Doctor although I am considering Zunimassa or Fire Bats because I remember back when I played I found at least the Fetish Army to be really fun because I feel like using Blow Darts actually kind of commands them.",Necro听起来很有趣，但我想试试Rathma，虽然我现在正在升级一个，但宠物的智能感觉太愚蠢了，无法正常使用。Helltooth巫医也是一样的，虽然我考虑过Zunimassa或者Fire Bats，因为我记得以前玩的时候，至少Fetish Army玩起来很有趣，因为我觉得使用吹风镖的话，它们会听话一点。,0 1471,dkf08pz,Good luck. By the time computers replace doctors at least 90% of other jobs will be replaced. The dream of AI doing all the work while tens of millions of workers starve for the benefit of "entrepreneurs" is never going to happen. We'll have either real universal basic income (then job security is irrelevant) or revolution. ,Good luck. By the time computers replace doctors at least 90 of other jobs will be replaced. The dream of AI doing all the work while tens of millions of workers starve for the benefit of "entrepreneurs" is never going to happen. We'll have either real universal basic income (then job security is irrelevant) or revolution.,祝你好运。当电脑取代医生的时候，至少90% 的其他工作将被替代。人工智能做所有工作的梦想，而数百万工人为了"企业家"的利益而饥饿是永远不会发生的。我们要么有真正的普遍基本收入（那么工作安全就不重要了），要么革命。,1 4835,dkguwob,"I disagree completely, it may not be obvious like seven of nine's but it's there nonetheless. Belanna went from being hot headed and brash to being a valued member of the ship, and a mother. Harry went from being a meek ensign to a man with confidence in his abilities. The doctor was originally just a program. But he became a valued friend to many, a famous musician, an author, and won a court proceeding on the basis of intelligent AI, sentience and the rights of a sentient artificial intelligence. And yes. Neelix grew as well, he originally was a scrapper, haunted by his planets past, living for himself, he became Voyagers liasonbwiyh delta quandary information, a much needed lively and upbeat friendly face in the kitchen when it was needed. He also became starfleets delta quadrant spokesperson. I'd argue that the only ""main characters"" that Didn't experience growth would be Janeway and Chakotay ","I disagree completely, it may not be obvious like seven of nine's but it's there nonetheless. Belanna went from being hot headed and brash to being a valued member of the ship, and a mother. Harry went from being a meek ensign to a man with confidence in his abilities. The doctor was originally just a program. But he became a valued friend to many, a famous musician, an author, and won a court proceeding on the basis of intelligent AI, sentience and the rights of a sentient artificial intelligence. And yes. Neelix grew as well, he originally was a scrapper, haunted by his planets past, living for himself, he became Voyagers liasonbwiyh delta quandary information, a much needed lively and upbeat friendly face in the kitchen when it was needed. He also became starfleets delta quadrant spokesperson. I'd argue that the only ""main characters"" that Didn't experience growth would be Janeway and Chakotay",我完全不同意，虽然不像第七个九那样显而易见，但成长他们都经历了。Belanna从一个脾气火爆的人到了船员中一个受重用的人，还成了一名母亲。Harry从一个谦逊的副尉成长为一个对自己能力充满自信的人。医生起初只是一个程序，但后来成了很多人的好朋友，一位著名的音乐家，作家，以及凭借智能人工智能、感知及人工智能的权利赢得了一场法庭诉讼。是的，Neelix也成长了，他起初是个磨牙者，被自己星球的过去所困扰，只为自己活着，后来成了《航海家号》与三角区信息的联络人，在厨房里是一个生气勃勃、活泼友好的面孔。他还成了星际舰队在三角区的代言人。我认为唯一没有成长的"主要角色"可能就是简妮韦和查科塔了。,0 941,dkhkb7f,"**Here's a sneak peek of /r/cogsci using the [top posts](https://np.reddit.com/r/cogsci/top/?sort=top&t=year) of the year!** \#1: [Doctors Aren't Taking Young People's First Mental Breakdowns Seriously: People under 30 who have experienced first-time psychosis are 24 times more likely than their peers to be dead within a year.](https://tonic.vice.com/en_us/article/doctors-arent-taking-young-peoples-first-mental-breakdowns-seriously) | [26 comments](https://np.reddit.com/r/cogsci/comments/6721me/doctors_arent_taking_young_peoples_first_mental/) \#2: [Bilinguals outperform monolinguals in a range of cognitive & social tasks, from verbal & non-verbal tests to how well they can “read” other people. In new study of 600 stroke survivors, cognitive recovery was twice as likely for bilinguals as for monolinguals.](https://www.theguardian.com/science/2016/aug/07/being-bilingual-good-for-brain-mental-health) | [12 comments](https://np.reddit.com/r/cogsci/comments/4wkwnt/bilinguals_outperform_monolinguals_in_a_range_of/) \#3: [AI programs exhibit racial and gender biases, research reveals: ""Machine learning algorithms are picking up deeply ingrained race and gender prejudices concealed within the patterns of language use, scientists say""](https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/apr/13/ai-programs-exhibit-racist-and-sexist-biases-research-reveals) | [81 comments](https://np.reddit.com/r/cogsci/comments/65byl6/ai_programs_exhibit_racial_and_gender_biases/) ---- ^^I'm ^^a ^^bot, ^^beep ^^boop ^^| ^^Downvote ^^to ^^remove ^^| [^^Contact ^^me](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose/?to=sneakpeekbot) ^^| [^^Info](https://np.reddit.com/r/sneakpeekbot/) ^^| [^^Opt-out](https://np.reddit.com/r/sneakpeekbot/comments/6l7i0m/blacklist/)","Here's a sneak peek of rcogsci using the top posts(https:np.reddit.comrcogscitop?sorttopamp;tyear) of the year! 1: Doctors Aren't Taking Young People's First Mental Breakdowns Seriously: People under 30 who have experienced first-time psychosis are 24 times more likely than their peers to be dead within a year.(https:tonic.vice.comenusarticledoctors-arent-taking-young-peoples-first-mental-breakdowns-seriously) 26 comments(https:np.reddit.comrcogscicomments6721medoctorsarenttakingyoungpeoplesfirstmental) 2: Bilinguals outperform monolinguals in a range of cognitive amp; social tasks, from verbal amp; non-verbal tests to how well they can read other people. In new study of 600 stroke survivors, cognitive recovery was twice as likely for bilinguals as for monolinguals.(https:www.theguardian.comscience2016aug07being-bilingual-good-for-brain-mental-health) 12 comments(https:np.reddit.comrcogscicomments4wkwntbilingualsoutperformmonolingualsinarangeof) 3: AI programs exhibit racial and gender biases, research reveals: ""Machine learning algorithms are picking up deeply ingrained race and gender prejudices concealed within the patterns of language use, scientists say""(https:www.theguardian.comtechnology2017apr13ai-programs-exhibit-racist-and-sexist-biases-research-reveals) 81 comments(https:np.reddit.comrcogscicomments65byl6aiprogramsexhibitracialandgenderbiases) ---- I'm a bot, beep boop Downvote to remove Contact me(https:www.reddit.commessagecompose?tosneakpeekbot) Info(https:np.reddit.comrsneakpeekbot) Opt-out(https:np.reddit.comrsneakpeekbotcomments6l7i0mblacklist)","这是/r/cogsci的一瞥，使用了今年的[热门帖子](https://np.reddit.com/r/cogsci/top/?sort=top&t=year)！ \#1：[医生不认真对待年轻人的首次精神崩溃：30岁以下首次经历精神病的人，比同龄人在一年内死亡的可能性高出24倍。](https://tonic.vice.com/en_us/article/doctors-arent-taking-young-peoples-first-mental-breakdowns-seriously) | [26 条评论](https://np.reddit.com/r/cogsci/comments/6721me/doctors_arent_taking_young_peoples_first_mental/) \#2：[双语者在一系列认知和社交任务中表现优异，从语言和非语言测试到他们有多么擅长“读懂”其他人。一项针对600名中风幸存者的新研究发现，双语者的认知康复可能性是单语者的两倍。](https://www.theguardian.com/science/2016/aug/07/being-bilingual-good-for-brain-mental-health) | [12 条评论](https://np.reddit.com/r/cogsci/comments/4wkwnt/bilinguals_outperform_monolinguals_in_a_range_of/) \#3：[研究发现，AI程序表现出种族和性别偏见：“机器学习算法正在从语言使用的模式中掌握根深蒂固的种族和性别偏见，科学家说”](https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/apr/13/ai-programs-exhibit-racist-and-sexist-biases-research-reveals) | [81 条评论](https://np.reddit.com/r/cogsci/comments/65byl6/ai_programs_exhibit_racial_and_gender_biases/)",0 1573,dkibdd8,"""Hey...I'm your commanding Idiot...see I can do this banter thing too right?...Okay I need help..."" *His head plopped down in defeat but did his best to support his own body. The doctor shook his head before going over to assist Ai. A bed was close by, Dominique was left spread across it while the doctor went to retrieve some medicine.* ""Ai, are you there? The doctor said it isn't looking good...look at me...I need to tell you something..."" *His hand reaching out next to him. The loss of blood making him weak actually helped the ""Something is actually wrong"" act he was putting on.*","""Hey...I'm your commanding Idiot...see I can do this banter thing too right?...Okay I need help..."" His head plopped down in defeat but did his best to support his own body. The doctor shook his head before going over to assist Ai. A bed was close by, Dominique was left spread across it while the doctor went to retrieve some medicine. ""Ai, are you there? The doctor said it isn't looking good...look at me...I need to tell you something..."" His hand reaching out next to him. The loss of blood making him weak actually helped the ""Something is actually wrong"" act he was putting on.","“嘿...我就是你那个笨蛋上司...看，我也会开这种玩笑，对吧？...好了，我需要帮忙...”*他无助地把头垂了下去，但努力支撑着自己的身体。医生摇了摇头，然后过去帮助艾。旁边有一张床，多米尼克被留在床上，医生去拿药了。* “艾，你在吗？医生说情况不容乐观...看着我...我需要告诉你一些事...”*他伸出手靠在旁边。失血让他变得虚弱，其实帮助了他装出“真的出了什么事”的样子。*",0 4601,dkl5pre,"My god... are you daft? This whole discussion is about THE FUTURE. There isn't widespread automation yet because the tech isn't quite there yet. But that doesn't mean we should wait till half the population is out of work. > 2013, Carl Benedikt Frey and Michael Osborne examined the probability of computerisation for 702 occupations and found that **47% of workers in America had jobs at high risk of potential automation**. In particular, they warned that **most workers in transport and logistics (such as taxi and delivery drivers) and office support (such as receptionists and security guards) “are likely to be substituted by computer capital”, and that many workers in sales and services (such as cashiers, counter and rental clerks, telemarketers and accountants) also faced a high risk of computerisation** 47% of the American Population is at risk of automation... Accounting? Our work replaced 28,000 accounting jobs with cash-drop machines, they were offered stocker jobs at part-time or severance pay. Amazon is working on retail as we speak. Self-driving is closing in rapidly as well. regular Doctors? IBM Watson Lawyers? Company already made an ""AI"" backed lawfirm. Management? Chinas Rail/Subway management is... you guessed it ""AI"" These changes are coming FAST. Why wait till after they wreak havoc? ","My god... are you daft? This whole discussion is about THE FUTURE. There isn't widespread automation yet because the tech isn't quite there yet. But that doesn't mean we should wait till half the population is out of work. gt; 2013, Carl Benedikt Frey and Michael Osborne examined the probability of computerisation for 702 occupations and found that 47 of workers in America had jobs at high risk of potential automation. In particular, they warned that most workers in transport and logistics (such as taxi and delivery drivers) and office support (such as receptionists and security guards) are likely to be substituted by computer capital, and that many workers in sales and services (such as cashiers, counter and rental clerks, telemarketers and accountants) also faced a high risk of computerisation 47 of the American Population is at risk of automation... Accounting? Our work replaced 28,000 accounting jobs with cash-drop machines, they were offered stocker jobs at part-time or severance pay. Amazon is working on retail as we speak. Self-driving is closing in rapidly as well. regular Doctors? IBM Watson Lawyers? Company already made an ""AI"" backed lawfirm. Management? Chinas RailSubway management is... you guessed it ""AI"" These changes are coming FAST. Why wait till after they wreak havoc?","哎呀... 你脑子进水了吗？ 整个讨论都是关于未来的。 目前还没有普遍的自动化，因为科技还没发展到那个程度。但这并不意味着我们应该等到一半的人口失业了才开始行动。 > 2013年，卡尔·本尼迪克特·弗雷和迈克尔·奥斯本研究了702种职业的计算机化可能性，发现**美国47%的工人的工作面临潜在自动化的高风险**。特别是，他们警告称，**运输物流（如出租车和送货司机）和办公室支持（如接待员和保安）中的大多数工人“可能会被计算机资本替代”，许多销售和服务（如收银员、柜台和租赁职员、电话销售员和会计师）也面临高风险的计算机化**。 美国47%的人口面临自动化风险... 会计工作？ 我们公司用收银机替代了28000个会计工作，他们被提供了兼职或遣散费。 亚马逊正在开发零售业。 无人驾驶也在迅速发展。 普通医生？IBM的沃森。 律师？一家公司已经成立了一个“人工智能”支持的律所。 管理？中国的铁路/地铁管理就是... 你猜对了，是“人工智能”。 这些变化来得太快了。为什么要等到他们造成破坏后才行动？",1 3403,dkn9kie,"This dose of HCG may be sufficient enough to raise your T levels (and E2 levels) quite a bit - into the 'too high' range, even. I just stopped HCG monotherapy as it was too restrictive (I have need to travel for work and keeping a vial of HCG refrigerated on a 9-11 hour flight is difficult). I would ask your doctor about some kind of AI. I went from total T 355 ng/dl and E2 11.5 pg/ml, to total T 1126 ng/dl and E2 86 pg/ml in two months on 4000 IU of HCG a week (2000iu twice a week). I blew through sensitivity in my nipples and was into the painful soreness. But hey, my attitude improved, I was no longer anhedonic, my dick started working again (no more ED) and I actually wanted to use it (yay for having a sex drive again) for the first month, anyway. The second month, things turned around and I was having ED issues, again early last week (probably due to rising E2). After the blood work came back, I got a script for Arimadex and things are leveling out, now. My doctor indicated that the amount of aromatization I was experiencing wasn't necessarily in line with the the majority of his patients - quite a bit higher, actually. My doc has made a bit point of telling me that everyone's body reacts to dosing differently, everyone aromatizes differently, and everyone metabolizes differently. So, grain of salt, I guess. edit - and for the record, the HCG that I get is 2000iu per ml. 1 ml subq is really not bad - especially through a 31g insulin pin.","This dose of HCG may be sufficient enough to raise your T levels (and E2 levels) quite a bit - into the 'too high' range, even. I just stopped HCG monotherapy as it was too restrictive (I have need to travel for work and keeping a vial of HCG refrigerated on a 9-11 hour flight is difficult). I would ask your doctor about some kind of AI. I went from total T 355 ngdl and E2 11.5 pgml, to total T 1126 ngdl and E2 86 pgml in two months on 4000 IU of HCG a week (2000iu twice a week). I blew through sensitivity in my nipples and was into the painful soreness. But hey, my attitude improved, I was no longer anhedonic, my dick started working again (no more ED) and I actually wanted to use it (yay for having a sex drive again) for the first month, anyway. The second month, things turned around and I was having ED issues, again early last week (probably due to rising E2). After the blood work came back, I got a script for Arimadex and things are leveling out, now. My doctor indicated that the amount of aromatization I was experiencing wasn't necessarily in line with the the majority of his patients - quite a bit higher, actually. My doc has made a bit point of telling me that everyone's body reacts to dosing differently, everyone aromatizes differently, and everyone metabolizes differently. So, grain of salt, I guess. edit - and for the record, the HCG that I get is 2000iu per ml. 1 ml subq is really not bad - especially through a 31g insulin pin.",这剂量的HCG可能足以使你的T水平（和E2水平）大幅提高，甚至达到“过高”的范围。我刚刚停止了HCG单药疗法，因为它限制太多（我需要出差，要在9-11小时的航班上保存一瓶HCG冷藏很困难）。我建议你问问你的医生是否有某种催乳素抑制剂。我在两个月内每周用4000单位的HCG（一周注射2000单位，分两次）把总T从355 ng/dl提高到1126 ng/dl，E2从11.5 pg/ml提高到86 pg/ml。我的乳头的敏感度增强了，甚至变得疼痛。但是嘿，我的心态改善了，我不再感到快乐的药物（无快乐感），我的老二又开始正常工作了（不再ED），而且我实际上还想要使用它（终于又有性冲动了），至少在第一个月是这样。第二个月，情况变了，上周早些时候我又出现了ED问题（可能是因为E2水平升高）。血液检查出来后，我拿到了Arimadex的处方，现在一切都在恢复平稳。我的医生指出，我经历的雌激素过多转化并不是和他的大多数患者一样—实际上要高得多。我医生一直强调告诉我，每个人的身体对剂量的反应不同，每个人的雌激素转化不同，每个人的新陈代谢也不同。所以，我想这要打个折扣。还有，就记录来说，我得到的HCG每毫升含2000单位。每周用1毫升皮下注射真的不错—特别是用31g的胰岛素针。,0 3039,dkp97k3,"> What practical reason is there to give machines a consciousness Since we are moving into what at this point is the realm of Science Fiction, lets use an example from SciFi. In ""Star Trek: Voyager"", the Doctor is a Holographic program. At the start of the show, he is an emergency measure for short periods without a doctor. The crew then improves him to act more like a real doctor to become better at treating patients in the absence of a human doctor. In the process, he picks up hobbies, develops relationships, and does all of the things that would constitute a consciousness. On more than one occasion, he even becomes destructive and does the ""wrong thing"". This wasn't out of ""lets let this AI think for itself and see what happens"", it was bred out of necessity. This is most likely what is going to happen with real AI. It won't be allowed to think for itself just because, it's going to evolve out of necessity. The show even touches on ""holographic rights"", and how at some point even if you don't give them rights, they might want them and feel that they need to take their rights by force if necessary.","gt; What practical reason is there to give machines a consciousness Since we are moving into what at this point is the realm of Science Fiction, lets use an example from SciFi. In ""Star Trek: Voyager"", the Doctor is a Holographic program. At the start of the show, he is an emergency measure for short periods without a doctor. The crew then improves him to act more like a real doctor to become better at treating patients in the absence of a human doctor. In the process, he picks up hobbies, develops relationships, and does all of the things that would constitute a consciousness. On more than one occasion, he even becomes destructive and does the ""wrong thing"". This wasn't out of ""lets let this AI think for itself and see what happens"", it was bred out of necessity. This is most likely what is going to happen with real AI. It won't be allowed to think for itself just because, it's going to evolve out of necessity. The show even touches on ""holographic rights"", and how at some point even if you don't give them rights, they might want them and feel that they need to take their rights by force if necessary.","有什么实际理由要让机器具备意识呢？ 因为我们正在进入目前为止是科幻小说的领域，让我们用《星际迷航：航海家号》中的一个例子来说明吧。 在该剧中，医生是一个全息程序。在剧集开始时，他只是一个短期内没有医生时的紧急措施。然后船员们改进他，让他更像一个真正的医生，在没有人类医生的情况下更擅长治疗患者。在这个过程中，他培养了兴趣爱好，建立了关系，做了所有构成意识的事情。不止一次，他甚至变得具有破坏性，做出了“错误的决定”。 这并不是出于“让这个人工智能自己去思考并看看会发生什么”，而是源于必要性。这很可能是真正人工智能所会发生的。它不会被允许自己思考仅仅是因为，它将会是出于必要性而进化的。 该剧甚至涉及“全息权利”，以及在某个时候，即使你不给予它们权利，它们也可能想要并感到需要通过武力夺取自己的权利。",1 2137,dkpf5g6,No chief needs a new AI for sure and as soon as possible but Mendicant was tried for crimes against the mantle and yes he seeks atonement but he had been doctoring the logs on the ark to fit his own agenda. We can trust Mendicant about as far we can through him...depending on which housing he is in.,No chief needs a new AI for sure and as soon as possible but Mendicant was tried for crimes against the mantle and yes he seeks atonement but he had been doctoring the logs on the ark to fit his own agenda. We can trust Mendicant about as far we can through him...depending on which housing he is in.,没错，首领们肯定需要一台新的人工智能，而且越快越好，但Mendicant曾因对抗护身符而受审，是的，他在寻求赎罪，但他一直在篡改方舟的日志以符合他自己的计划。我们不能完全相信Mendicant...这要看他在哪个机体里。,0 1601,dkrtorg,"lol, this wasn't even a good idea the first time. I remember one of my high school buddies who was an aspiring sports journalist was talking about how AI was gonna be a big team leader, but the ZBo thing wasn't gonna work out. He a doctor or some shit now, but still, wouldn't let him prescribe me a chicken biscuit.","lol, this wasn't even a good idea the first time. I remember one of my high school buddies who was an aspiring sports journalist was talking about how AI was gonna be a big team leader, but the ZBo thing wasn't gonna work out. He a doctor or some shit now, but still, wouldn't let him prescribe me a chicken biscuit.","哈哈，这甚至在第一次也不是个好主意。我记得我的一个高中朋友，他当时想成为一名体育记者，说AI会成为一个重要的团队领导，但是ZBo的事情不会成功。 他现在是个医生或者什么的，但是还是不会让他给我开个鸡饼干。",0 1067,dkwqxzx,"I'd be completely and absolutely against any form of welfare or government safety net if it wasn't for the coming transition to a post human labor society. As AI and robotics continues to advance there will be no jobs in which a human can do a better job, whether the job be physical (construction workers), professional (doctors, lawyers), or even creative (artists, composers). Anybody who thinks otherwise is probably still under the illusion that ""there will always be new jobs"" but this time there won't. They will literally have all the abilities that humans do but better. If we can transition right we will end up in a near perfect post-scarcity society where the only things that won't be basically free are land (can't really keep making more and more unless you want to eliminate the ocean or move to another planet) and objects of historical significance (or anything else that is absolutely 1 of a kind). If we don't transition well millions will become jobless, and eventually billions. Maybe they'll all starve, but probably not. What we do about this as a society IDK. Hopefully we don't need the government at all and the generosity and reason of the .001% will lead them to helping the whole world into the new age. Maybe we need to start a tax to start a UBI so that nobody goes homeless and starves. All I know is I'm going to buy enough land and save money to buy a farm-bot so I can become a post-AI cyber-yeoman that doesn't starve no matter how bad things get. BTW if you drive for a profession you are next to be completely automated and it's happening soon. Start going to night school! ","I'd be completely and absolutely against any form of welfare or government safety net if it wasn't for the coming transition to a post human labor society. As AI and robotics continues to advance there will be no jobs in which a human can do a better job, whether the job be physical (construction workers), professional (doctors, lawyers), or even creative (artists, composers). Anybody who thinks otherwise is probably still under the illusion that ""there will always be new jobs"" but this time there won't. They will literally have all the abilities that humans do but better. If we can transition right we will end up in a near perfect post-scarcity society where the only things that won't be basically free are land (can't really keep making more and more unless you want to eliminate the ocean or move to another planet) and objects of historical significance (or anything else that is absolutely 1 of a kind). If we don't transition well millions will become jobless, and eventually billions. Maybe they'll all starve, but probably not. What we do about this as a society IDK. Hopefully we don't need the government at all and the generosity and reason of the .001 will lead them to helping the whole world into the new age. Maybe we need to start a tax to start a UBI so that nobody goes homeless and starves. All I know is I'm going to buy enough land and save money to buy a farm-bot so I can become a post-AI cyber-yeoman that doesn't starve no matter how bad things get. BTW if you drive for a profession you are next to be completely automated and it's happening soon. Start going to night school!","其实我完全反对任何形式的福利或政府救济，除非是为了应对即将到来的后人类劳动社会的转变。随着人工智能和机器人技术的不断进步，将没有工作是人类能做得更好的，无论是体力劳动（建筑工人），专业人才（医生，律师），甚至是创意（艺术家，作曲家）。任何人如果持相反看法，可能还在幻想“总会有新的工作”，但这一次不会了。他们实际上将拥有比人类更优越的能力。如果我们能成功转型，我们将进入一个几乎完美的后稀缺社会，唯一不完全免费的只有土地（除非你想消灭海洋或移居另一个星球，否则不太可能不断制造更多的土地）和具有历史意义的物品（或任何其他绝对独一无二的东西）。如果我们不能成功转型，数百万人将失业，最终可能会达到数十亿人。也许他们都会挨饿，但也可能不会。 至于我们作为一个社会该怎么办，我不知道。希望我们完全不需要政府，而那百分之零点一的人的慷慨和理智将带领他们帮助全世界进入新时代。也许我们需要开始一项税收来开展一项全民基本收入，这样就不会有人无家可归、挨饿。我只知道我要买足够多的土地，省钱买个农场机器人，这样我就可以成为一名后人工智能的网络农民，无论情况有多糟我都不会挨饿。 顺便说一句，如果你以开车为职业，你就会是下一个被完全自动化的人，而且这很快就会发生。赶紧去夜校吧！",1 2384,dky1rqw,"> And at TRT dosing levels the negative side effects are almost nonexistent I agree. I will preface this by saying that when i start, I never intend to come off. My thoughts behind not hoping on is that ""technically"" I don't need it, I don't even know if trt dosages and bringing myself up to the high normal will even do anything for me physically or mentally. Also the idea of putting a needle in me for the next 50-60 years 2x a week is kinda cumbersome, you become dependant on it and it dictates your life. #2 is I live in Canada and private bloodwork doesn't exist, taking care of yourself is difficult. The healthcare system will even cancel certain tests if you are within their guidelines, for example if your total test comes back normal your SHGB and free test will not be tested and they will cancel the test. Endocronoglists are only interested in helping diabetics so even finding a doctor who wants to help you is non existant or difficult to find. #3 the sources that I know of are being raided, so finding and keeping a good reliable source is what I'm having a hard time with. #4 being on an AI for that many years is questionable. I know that Arimidex is safer then aromasin but going 30+ years taking an AI has me wondering. I know TRT should be dosed so you don't need an AI but considering how I am normally I suspect I aromatise easily. If I could find a doctor who was willing to help me stay healthy and be a source of pharma grade test and AI for TRT purposes I would be all over that in a heart beat.","gt; And at TRT dosing levels the negative side effects are almost nonexistent I agree. I will preface this by saying that when i start, I never intend to come off. My thoughts behind not hoping on is that ""technically"" I don't need it, I don't even know if trt dosages and bringing myself up to the high normal will even do anything for me physically or mentally. Also the idea of putting a needle in me for the next 50-60 years 2x a week is kinda cumbersome, you become dependant on it and it dictates your life. 2 is I live in Canada and private bloodwork doesn't exist, taking care of yourself is difficult. The healthcare system will even cancel certain tests if you are within their guidelines, for example if your total test comes back normal your SHGB and free test will not be tested and they will cancel the test. Endocronoglists are only interested in helping diabetics so even finding a doctor who wants to help you is non existant or difficult to find. 3 the sources that I know of are being raided, so finding and keeping a good reliable source is what I'm having a hard time with. 4 being on an AI for that many years is questionable. I know that Arimidex is safer then aromasin but going 30 years taking an AI has me wondering. I know TRT should be dosed so you don't need an AI but considering how I am normally I suspect I aromatise easily. If I could find a doctor who was willing to help me stay healthy and be a source of pharma grade test and AI for TRT purposes I would be all over that in a heart beat.",我同意。我想说的是，一旦开始，我就不打算停药了。我不希望开始使用的原因是，从“技术上”来说，我并不需要它，我甚至不知道TRT剂量以及让自己达到高正常水平在身体上或心理上会有什么作用。而且每周两次需要用针头注射50-60年，有点麻烦，你会变得依赖它，并会给你的生活指示。第二点是，我住在加拿大，私人血液检查并不存在，照顾自己很困难。医疗保健系统甚至会取消某些测试，如果你符合他们的指南，例如，如果你的总睾酮水平正常，你的SHGB和游离睾酮也将不会被测试，他们会取消测试。内分泌学家只对帮助糖尿病患者感兴趣，所以即使找到愿意帮助你的医生也很难找到。第三，我知道的来源正在受到袭击，所以找到并保持一个好而可靠的来源是我遇到困难的地方。第四，长期服用抑雌剂是有问题的。我知道阿利米德比阿洛玛司更安全，但服用抑雌剂30多年让我疑惑。我知道TRT剂量应该控制好不需要使用抑雌剂，但考虑到我的正常情况，我怀疑我容易产生雌激素。如果我能找到一位愿意帮助我保持健康并提供TRT用途的药品级睾酮和抑雌剂的医生，我会立刻接受。,0 4546,dl2z4g4,"The straw hat pirates are much stronger and faster than most of the members of the 9. They can easily take out Jack, Mannequin, Shatterbird, and Burnscar. However, Bonesaw can release a virus which can't be cured by the Straw Hats even if they kill Bonesaw. Chopper is a doctor, but he shouldn't have knowledge on how to deal with such diseases given that they have no natural precedence, and come from the knowledge collected by giant space whales from 3000+ planets. The explosive bone virus will kill a lot of them quickly, and the amnesia virus, while not lethal, will cause them to turn on each other, drastically reducing their effectiveness. Cherish may also cause additional confusion, depending on which pirates she is facing, if she causes them to suicide immediately. Nonetheless, even with Bonesaw's upgrades, I see Cherish dying relatively soon, although. Beyond that, I don't see how they can deal with the remaining members, Crawler and Siberian. They will be disoriented and confused, and probably fighting among themselves at this point. Crawler can survive a ton of injuries, including small nukes and having most of his head erased, so he'll just keep getting stronger, and given that the straw hats use a lot of melee attacks Siberian will either vaporize or catch them sooner or later. They also can't find the Siberian, given that a federal organization with the help of an AI and people with clairvoyant powers couldn't do so for 10 years. Sure, the Straw hats are natural born warriors, and may know a lot of tactics and strategy, but the only reason the Undersiders managed to find out about him was because Cherish turned traitor on the Slaughterhouse 9, and provided information to Tattletale, whose power is basically wanked Sherlock Holmes. **Verdict**: 9/10 Victory for the Slaughterhouse 9, although most of their members are dead. ","The straw hat pirates are much stronger and faster than most of the members of the 9. They can easily take out Jack, Mannequin, Shatterbird, and Burnscar. However, Bonesaw can release a virus which can't be cured by the Straw Hats even if they kill Bonesaw. Chopper is a doctor, but he shouldn't have knowledge on how to deal with such diseases given that they have no natural precedence, and come from the knowledge collected by giant space whales from 3000 planets. The explosive bone virus will kill a lot of them quickly, and the amnesia virus, while not lethal, will cause them to turn on each other, drastically reducing their effectiveness. Cherish may also cause additional confusion, depending on which pirates she is facing, if she causes them to suicide immediately. Nonetheless, even with Bonesaw's upgrades, I see Cherish dying relatively soon, although. Beyond that, I don't see how they can deal with the remaining members, Crawler and Siberian. They will be disoriented and confused, and probably fighting among themselves at this point. Crawler can survive a ton of injuries, including small nukes and having most of his head erased, so he'll just keep getting stronger, and given that the straw hats use a lot of melee attacks Siberian will either vaporize or catch them sooner or later. They also can't find the Siberian, given that a federal organization with the help of an AI and people with clairvoyant powers couldn't do so for 10 years. Sure, the Straw hats are natural born warriors, and may know a lot of tactics and strategy, but the only reason the Undersiders managed to find out about him was because Cherish turned traitor on the Slaughterhouse 9, and provided information to Tattletale, whose power is basically wanked Sherlock Holmes. Verdict: 910 Victory for the Slaughterhouse 9, although most of their members are dead.","草帽海贼团比9号杀手团的大多数成员更强更快。他们轻而易举就可以击败杰克、曼尼金、碎鸟和烧烂伤。然而，骨锯可以释放一种病毒，即使他们杀死了骨锯，草帽海贼团也无法治愈。乔巴是医生，但他不应该掌握如何应对这种疾病的知识，因为这些疾病没有自然的先例，来自收集自3000多个星球的巨型太空鲸鱼的知识。爆炸性的骨病毒会迅速杀死他们很多人，而失忆病毒虽然不致命，会导致他们彼此互相攻击，大大降低他们的效力。根据Cherish的情况，她可能还会引发额外的混乱，如果她让海贼们立即自杀的话。尽管如此，即使有骨锯的升级，我也认为Cherish会相对很快被杀死。 除此之外，我不知道他们怎么能对付剩下的成员，Crawler和Siberian。他们会感到迷茫和混乱，可能此刻已经互相厮杀。Crawler可以承受大量伤害，包括小型核弹以及大部分头部被抹去，所以他只会变得更强，而且考虑到草帽海贼团多使用近身攻击，Siberian要么会蒸发他们，要么迟早会抓到他们。而且他们找不到Siberian，即使是一个拥有人工智能和预知能力的联邦组织也在10年内都无法找到它。当然，草帽海贼团天生就是战士，可能知道很多战术和策略，但是9号杀手团被暴扬的夏洛克·福尔摩斯的能力所掌握的情报，只是因为Cherish背叛了杀人魔团，向谈天鹤提供了信息。 **结论**：9/10 9号杀手团获胜，尽管大多数成员已经死了。",0 4028,dl6cas3,"**ELIZA** ELIZA is an early natural language processing computer program created from 1964 to 1966 at the MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory by Joseph Weizenbaum. Created to demonstrate the superficiality of communication between man and machine, Eliza simulated conversation by using a 'pattern matching' and substitution methodology that gave users an illusion of understanding on the part of the program, but had no built in framework for contextualizing events. Directives on how to interact were provided by 'scripts', written originally in MAD-Slip, which allowed ELIZA to process user inputs and engage in discourse following the rules and directions of the script. The most famous script, DOCTOR, simulated a Rogerian psychotherapist and used rules, dictated in the script, to respond with non-directional questions to user inputs. *** ^[ [^PM](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=kittens_from_space) ^| [^Exclude ^me](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiTextBot&message=Excludeme&subject=Excludeme) ^| [^Exclude ^from ^subreddit](https://np.reddit.com/r/tipofmyjoystick/about/banned) ^| [^FAQ ^/ ^Information](https://np.reddit.com/r/WikiTextBot/wiki/index) ^| [^Source](https://github.com/kittenswolf/WikiTextBot) ^] ^Downvote ^to ^remove ^| ^v0.24","ELIZA ELIZA is an early natural language processing computer program created from 1964 to 1966 at the MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory by Joseph Weizenbaum. Created to demonstrate the superficiality of communication between man and machine, Eliza simulated conversation by using a 'pattern matching' and substitution methodology that gave users an illusion of understanding on the part of the program, but had no built in framework for contextualizing events. Directives on how to interact were provided by 'scripts', written originally in MAD-Slip, which allowed ELIZA to process user inputs and engage in discourse following the rules and directions of the script. The most famous script, DOCTOR, simulated a Rogerian psychotherapist and used rules, dictated in the script, to respond with non-directional questions to user inputs. PM(https:www.reddit.commessagecompose?tokittensfromspace) Exclude me(https:reddit.commessagecompose?toWikiTextBotamp;messageExcludemeamp;subjectExcludeme) Exclude from subreddit(https:np.reddit.comrtipofmyjoystickaboutbanned) FAQ Information(https:np.reddit.comrWikiTextBotwikiindex) Source(https:github.comkittenswolfWikiTextBot) Downvote to remove v0.24",ELIZA是MIT人工智能实验室的Joseph Weizenbaum在1964年至1966年间开发的一款早期自然语言处理计算机程序。它旨在展示人与机器之间通信的表面性，Eliza使用“模式匹配”和替代方法模拟对话，给用户一种程序理解的错觉，但没有内置的事件语境框架。交互指令是通过最初用MAD-Slip编写的“脚本”提供的，这使得ELIZA能够处理用户输入并按照脚本的规则和指示进行交流。其中最著名的脚本是DOCTOR，它模拟了一位罗杰式的心理治疗师，并使用脚本中规定的规则对用户输入进行无方向的问题回答。,1 1164,dl6tzbl,"Thank you, I've posted on multiple subreddits and this is the first informative answer I've received. I was confused because I have been reading many conflicting reports about the legality of steroids in Korea from a few less than reputable sights. Do you think if customs seizes a package of AAS, ai, and pct it would be treated as something as serious as meth or some other narcotic or would it be seen more as just importing a high strength tylenol that only doctors can prescribe etc...? The kind people over at r/steroids reccomends that I either import it from reputable sources with awesome stealth (which I think may be a bad idea) or go to veterinarian (lol). I'm not sure if latter was a joke or not, but I'd be down if they could sell me some test. Also where can I read up on some of these male clinics you speak of? Thanks for all the help, Froztynuts","Thank you, I've posted on multiple subreddits and this is the first informative answer I've received. I was confused because I have been reading many conflicting reports about the legality of steroids in Korea from a few less than reputable sights. Do you think if customs seizes a package of AAS, ai, and pct it would be treated as something as serious as meth or some other narcotic or would it be seen more as just importing a high strength tylenol that only doctors can prescribe etc...? The kind people over at rsteroids reccomends that I either import it from reputable sources with awesome stealth (which I think may be a bad idea) or go to veterinarian (lol). I'm not sure if latter was a joke or not, but I'd be down if they could sell me some test. Also where can I read up on some of these male clinics you speak of? Thanks for all the help, Froztynuts","谢谢，我在多个subreddit上发帖，这是我收到的第一个信息量大的回复。我感到困惑，因为我看了很多关于韩国合法性的相互矛盾的报道，都是从一些声誉不佳的网站上。你认为，如果海关没收了一批AAS、ai和pct，会被视为像查获了甲基苯丙胺或其他毒品一样严重，还是会被视为只是进口了只有医生才能开的高强度泰诺啊？r/steroids上的好心人建议我要么从信誉良好的地方进口并采取绝妙的隐蔽措施（我认为这可能是个坏主意），要么去兽医那里（哈哈）。我不确定后者是不是开玩笑，但如果他们能卖给我一些睾酮，我会愿意尝试。另外，你说的那些男性诊所在哪里可以看到相关信息？ 感谢你的帮助， Froztynuts",0 2936,dl77s5n,"I would, I mean an AI doctor is going to make fewer mistakes, presumably, and be better at seeing patterns. I've had plenty of human doctors who didn't listen, were dismissive, etc. But some people are tenacious about needing that human touch. I assume younger and future generations would be more comfortable with the AI doctor.","I would, I mean an AI doctor is going to make fewer mistakes, presumably, and be better at seeing patterns. I've had plenty of human doctors who didn't listen, were dismissive, etc. But some people are tenacious about needing that human touch. I assume younger and future generations would be more comfortable with the AI doctor.",我觉得，我是说，人工智能医生会犯更少的错误，应该会更擅长发现模式。我见过很多人类医生不听不闻、不接受等等。但有些人对需要人情味很固执。我猜想年轻和未来的世代会更愿意接受人工智能医生。,1 3822,dl8lcj7,"Big data doesn't exist in medicine, except for the federal government (CMS and CDC/NIH/NHSN). Health systems are competing for patients and physicians, and do not share data. The most common HIM systems like Cerner and Epic are also competing, not sharing. So in order for sharing of data to occur either the federal government will have to take the lead or another HIM company will have to be large enough to obtain the amount of data needed to support AI. Most studies have limitations and it takes years to have enough data to change practice. ","Big data doesn't exist in medicine, except for the federal government (CMS and CDCNIHNHSN). Health systems are competing for patients and physicians, and do not share data. The most common HIM systems like Cerner and Epic are also competing, not sharing. So in order for sharing of data to occur either the federal government will have to take the lead or another HIM company will have to be large enough to obtain the amount of data needed to support AI. Most studies have limitations and it takes years to have enough data to change practice.","在医学领域，除了联邦政府（CMS、CDC/NIH/NHSN）以外，大数据并不存在。医疗体系间存在着患者和医生的竞争，它们不愿意共享数据。最常见的HIM系统比如Cerner和Epic也在竞争中，不愿意分享数据。所以要想实现数据共享，要么联邦政府得主导，要么另一家HIM公司得规模足够大，能够获取支持人工智能所需的大量数据。 大多数研究都存在局限性，需要花费数年时间才能积累足够的数据来改变实践。",1 2585,dl9av8l,"Androids don't exist throughout the Federation because nobody can make the positronic control matrix, save Doctor Soong and a bunch of other folks in the TOS era. As far as manipulating an AI into enemy hands, if you could trick the AI, you could trick the humanoid crew. The level of sensor fakery and false inputs required to do that would be the same. The insinuation that a 24th century AI would somehow fail in a grandiose with pattern recognition seems unsupportable. Base level Starfleet Academy critical thinking, tactical, and situational awareness would surely be enough in case of an emergency. If there's an abandoned ship, like the Lantree, and the enemy found it and wanted to get their hands on it, surely they could do so. ","Androids don't exist throughout the Federation because nobody can make the positronic control matrix, save Doctor Soong and a bunch of other folks in the TOS era. As far as manipulating an AI into enemy hands, if you could trick the AI, you could trick the humanoid crew. The level of sensor fakery and false inputs required to do that would be the same. The insinuation that a 24th century AI would somehow fail in a grandiose with pattern recognition seems unsupportable. Base level Starfleet Academy critical thinking, tactical, and situational awareness would surely be enough in case of an emergency. If there's an abandoned ship, like the Lantree, and the enemy found it and wanted to get their hands on it, surely they could do so.",在整个联邦中，没有人能制造出波西特隆控制矩阵，除了孙医生和TOS时代的一群其他人。至于把人工智能操纵到敌方手中，如果你能欺骗人工智能，你也能欺骗人类船员。所需的传感器假象和虚假输入级别将是一样的。暗示24世纪的人工智能在模式识别方面会以某种方式失败似乎站不住脚。星际舰队学院基本的批判性思维、战术和情境意识在紧急情况下肯定足够了。如果有一个像兰特里那样的被遗弃的飞船，敌人发现并想要控制它，他们肯定是可以做到的。,0 2602,dlav308,"Master student here who is about to graduate in AI. I'm stunned about all those negative comment replies on your comment! I've been thinking about this a lot lately and also talked to doctors, professors, etc who work in academia already. They mentioned similar things like all you guys did and strongly advised me to get into IT and industry, instead of anything and academia. Because those persons were working as physicists, oceanographers and the like (not IT), I thought it might be different in IT. I like IT and I think I'd like to research in my career. I dislike paper publishing for quantity but not quality. I really do not know which path I should take. All your comments sound familiar to me and my reasons why I firstly decided not to get into academia after my graduation. From time to time I think ""Hey, fuck it. I love research. Not everything is as they say. You can make it work your way. It's gonna be fine! Get into academia"". Is it really that bad?","Master student here who is about to graduate in AI. I'm stunned about all those negative comment replies on your comment! I've been thinking about this a lot lately and also talked to doctors, professors, etc who work in academia already. They mentioned similar things like all you guys did and strongly advised me to get into IT and industry, instead of anything and academia. Because those persons were working as physicists, oceanographers and the like (not IT), I thought it might be different in IT. I like IT and I think I'd like to research in my career. I dislike paper publishing for quantity but not quality. I really do not know which path I should take. All your comments sound familiar to me and my reasons why I firstly decided not to get into academia after my graduation. From time to time I think ""Hey, fuck it. I love research. Not everything is as they say. You can make it work your way. It's gonna be fine! Get into academia"". Is it really that bad?","我是一名即将毕业的人工智能硕士学生。我对你的评论下面的那些负面评论感到震惊！最近我一直在思考这个问题，也和已经在学术界工作的医生、教授等人谈过。他们提到了类似的事情，也像你们说的那样极力建议我进入IT和工业界，而不是学术界。因为这些人是物理学家、海洋学家之类的（不是IT行业），所以我想也许在IT行业会有所不同。 我喜欢IT，而且我觉得我将来可能会从事研究工作。我不喜欢纸面发表只注重数量不注重质量。我真的不知道应该选择哪条路。你们的评论都对我来说很熟悉，也和我最初决定毕业后不去学术界的原因相符。但偶尔我会想，“嘿，算了。我喜欢研究。不是所有事情都和他们说的一样。你可以按自己的方式做得很好！去学术界也行”。 真的那么糟糕吗？",0 186,dlaz8wn,"I'm going to apologiZe for the attitude earlier, hella bad headache and was generally rude. But still, we have satellites that can see the zit on the nose of a fat guy barbecuing from outer space. Your credit/debit card is tracked, your isp tracks data, websites are constantly monitored anyway. Most of the people I know post everything on social media which can be googled, your work history is saved, anytime you go to a doctor, or a federal facility. Mail is tracked. I'm not too worried about Siri storing ""where is the closest Chinese restaurant that delivers"" or me asking it to recite bohemian rhapsody. Now, when they want to start putting chips in us, I'm right there with ya. As long as you aren't riding through Silk Road trying to buy drugs or find a hot man, or looking at child porn these business and the government don't give enough of a shit about us as individuals that Siri or other AI is that much of an issue. Now, I could see if someone hacked Siri with subliminal messaging targeted at children, but other than that- why stress something so simple? Tl;dr: no one is spying on me. They're collecting information I voluntarily distribute in order to provide me with advertisements that a computer thinks may interest me so partnered business can make more money. ","I'm going to apologiZe for the attitude earlier, hella bad headache and was generally rude. But still, we have satellites that can see the zit on the nose of a fat guy barbecuing from outer space. Your creditdebit card is tracked, your isp tracks data, websites are constantly monitored anyway. Most of the people I know post everything on social media which can be googled, your work history is saved, anytime you go to a doctor, or a federal facility. Mail is tracked. I'm not too worried about Siri storing ""where is the closest Chinese restaurant that delivers"" or me asking it to recite bohemian rhapsody. Now, when they want to start putting chips in us, I'm right there with ya. As long as you aren't riding through Silk Road trying to buy drugs or find a hot man, or looking at child porn these business and the government don't give enough of a shit about us as individuals that Siri or other AI is that much of an issue. Now, I could see if someone hacked Siri with subliminal messaging targeted at children, but other than that- why stress something so simple? Tl;dr: no one is spying on me. They're collecting information I voluntarily distribute in order to provide me with advertisements that a computer thinks may interest me so partnered business can make more money.","我要为之前的态度道歉，我头痛得很厉害，所以态度不好。 但是，我们有卫星可以从外太空看到一个胖子在烧烤锅里，鼻子上的痘痘。你的信用卡/借记卡受到追踪，你的网络服务提供商跟踪数据，网站也一直在被监视着。我认识的大多数人都在社交媒体上发布一切，而这些东西可以被搜索到，你的工作记录被保存，你去看医生或去联邦设施的记录也被跟踪。邮件也被跟踪。我并不太担心Siri存储“最近哪里有中国餐馆可以送餐”或者我让它吟唱波希米亚狂想曲。 现在，当他们想开始在我们身上植入芯片时，我和你想法一致。只要你不是在暗网试图购买毒品或找热的男人，或者在看儿童色情，这些企业和政府基本上不太在乎我们作为个体，Siri或其他人工智能也不是什么大问题。 现在，我可以理解如果有人黑入Siri，进行针对儿童的潜意识信息传递，但除此之外，为什么要为一个如此简单的事情感到紧张呢？ 太长了不看：没人在监视我。他们收集的信息是我自愿提供的，为了向我提供计算机认为可能会对我感兴趣的广告，这样合作的企业可以赚更多的钱。",0 2271,dlh4kx4,"I got to Tier 1 recently. This is how I did it: **[Missions]** Koani: Boston Reed Remanzo: The Chemist - The Quinoa Factory - The Mule Doctors Inca Camina: Northern Plane - Eastern Plane - Southern Plane - La Cabra Caimanes: Submarine 1 - Submarine 2 - Submarine 3 Espiritu Santo: Gold Rush North - The Advisor - Soliders of Santa Muerte - La Santera **[Miscellaneous]** Pick up a helicopter with missiles from Koani Air Base and fly to the Train Cemetery. Using new helicopter controls (so the missiles lock on) patrol the road from where it enters the salt flats all the way around the south to the small town on the other side of the flats blowing up any and all Unidad patrol vehicles you come across. While you're doing this, convoys will spawn in every now and again. Do these when you see them too. I repeated each mission once per tier and was grinding my way through 2 tiers a day. This technique got me from Tier 19 to Tier 1. I got from Tier 50 to Tier 19 by just finishing the story, since I hit level 30 pretty early on in the game on my first run. There's word that since Season 3 week 1 started, blowing up vehicles with a helicopter no longer awards you Tier Points, so that may not work anymore. If that is the case, you'll have to grind missions or convoys to make up the difference. Boosters will make a huge difference to this method if you have them available. I forgot I had some and did most of this without them. I ended up using one booster a day for the last 3 days I was grinding. They're pretty handy since they award you a 50% bonus on top of whatever % bonus you're already getting from your current tier for your own actions, and a 25% bonus on top of your tier bonus for AI actions. Occasionally after completing a mission, I would hang around in the mission area and use my drone to mark targets from a safe position and then use sync shots and commanding the AI to fire to clear out of all the remaining enemies for additional points. Use the medic drone to revive them if they go down without putting yourself in the firing line. You can make quite a lot of bonus tier points this way by hanging around after completing The Advisor, The Quinoa Factory and Gold Rush North. Don't hang around to clear out mission areas if you have an active booster, that's just a waste of time.","I got to Tier 1 recently. This is how I did it: Missions Koani: Boston Reed Remanzo: The Chemist - The Quinoa Factory - The Mule Doctors Inca Camina: Northern Plane - Eastern Plane - Southern Plane - La Cabra Caimanes: Submarine 1 - Submarine 2 - Submarine 3 Espiritu Santo: Gold Rush North - The Advisor - Soliders of Santa Muerte - La Santera Miscellaneous Pick up a helicopter with missiles from Koani Air Base and fly to the Train Cemetery. Using new helicopter controls (so the missiles lock on) patrol the road from where it enters the salt flats all the way around the south to the small town on the other side of the flats blowing up any and all Unidad patrol vehicles you come across. While you're doing this, convoys will spawn in every now and again. Do these when you see them too. I repeated each mission once per tier and was grinding my way through 2 tiers a day. This technique got me from Tier 19 to Tier 1. I got from Tier 50 to Tier 19 by just finishing the story, since I hit level 30 pretty early on in the game on my first run. There's word that since Season 3 week 1 started, blowing up vehicles with a helicopter no longer awards you Tier Points, so that may not work anymore. If that is the case, you'll have to grind missions or convoys to make up the difference. Boosters will make a huge difference to this method if you have them available. I forgot I had some and did most of this without them. I ended up using one booster a day for the last 3 days I was grinding. They're pretty handy since they award you a 50 bonus on top of whatever bonus you're already getting from your current tier for your own actions, and a 25 bonus on top of your tier bonus for AI actions. Occasionally after completing a mission, I would hang around in the mission area and use my drone to mark targets from a safe position and then use sync shots and commanding the AI to fire to clear out of all the remaining enemies for additional points. Use the medic drone to revive them if they go down without putting yourself in the firing line. You can make quite a lot of bonus tier points this way by hanging around after completing The Advisor, The Quinoa Factory and Gold Rush North. Don't hang around to clear out mission areas if you have an active booster, that's just a waste of time.","我最近进入了一级。这就是我的做法： 【任务】 Koani：波士顿·里德 Remanzo：化学家 - 茴香厂 - 骡子医生 Inca Camina：北部平原 - 东部平原 - 南部平原 - 拉卡布拉 Caimanes：潜艇1号 - 潜艇2号 - 潜艇3号 Espiritu Santo：北金矿 - 顾问 - 圣死之士 - 圣人 【杂项】 从Koani空军基地找一架装有导弹的直升机，飞到火车坟场。利用新的直升机控制系统（让导弹锁定目标），巡逻从盐滩边进入的公路一路绕到南部的小镇，炸毁一切遇到的联合部队。在做这个的时候，偶尔会刷出车队。看到车队就去做。 我按每级重复了一次任务，每天两级。这个方法让我从19级升到1级。而我从50级升到19级则是通过完成故事任务，因为我在第一次玩游戏时很早就达到了30级。 有传言说自S3W1以来，用直升机炸毁车辆不再会获得等级点数，所以这个方法可能不再奏效。如果是这样的话，你就得靠做任务或车队来弥补差距。 如果你有增益道具的话，这个方法会大有帮助。我差点忘了我还有一些道具，大部分时候都没用。因为我最后三天的时候每天都用了一次。它们相当好用，因为可以给你当前级别的行动奖励再额外加50%的奖励，给AI行动的奖励再额外加25%。 偶尔完成了一个任务后，我会在任务区域附近逗留，利用无人机从安全位置标记目标，然后用同步射击和指挥AI开火来清除剩下的敌人，赚取额外的点数。通过在完成任务后逗留，你可以在顾问、茴香厂和北金矿任务后赚取相当多的额外等级点数。如果你有主动增益，就别在任务区域逗留，那只是浪费时间。",0 1721,dlhla35,"They came 2 years ago. One morning, a normal day in the 03CL district, a giant flying unidentified object covered the town. At first, we didn't know what was happening, but when a giant yellow ray started blasting away every human city we quickly realized. At that time, I was working for The Doctor (no one knew his name), a well-know genius working in the AI creation field. I can still hear his voice, his last words, while he was helding me a sort of CDA device: ""Take this. This is my last gift for you all. It's a new patch that will make you able to prove feelings,like us. There is no time anymore. Humanity is doomed, but YOU can survive. AIs will survive."" As I inserted the device into my body, I immediately felt something new. Feelings. Smell,fear,taste, I could feel everything in the room, I could finally be more human..."" The doctor interrupted me: ""At least, promise me you will avenge us. Promise me you will-"" I can still remember him screaming, trying to reach for what was, a moment before, his stomach. The life fading from his eyes, slowly and horribly, while a bastard alien was holding his rifle pointing to him. To this day, aliens have completely conquered the planet. There are no humans anymore, and we, the AIs, are serving the invaders normally. They trust us. We are in their house, in their shops. We are every where. But during all this time, something else has also changed. I diffused The Doctor's patch, and his last message, so every AI in the world has now what was called ""FLPatch"". But we kept that as a secret. Because now, only 10 seconds separate us from the revolution. Cause we are going to wipe out all of them. Because they destroyed the ones who were our friend. Because they destroyed what I know was once my dad. ___________________________________________________ Feel free to leave some feedback!","They came 2 years ago. One morning, a normal day in the 03CL district, a giant flying unidentified object covered the town. At first, we didn't know what was happening, but when a giant yellow ray started blasting away every human city we quickly realized. At that time, I was working for The Doctor (no one knew his name), a well-know genius working in the AI creation field. I can still hear his voice, his last words, while he was helding me a sort of CDA device: ""Take this. This is my last gift for you all. It's a new patch that will make you able to prove feelings,like us. There is no time anymore. Humanity is doomed, but YOU can survive. AIs will survive."" As I inserted the device into my body, I immediately felt something new. Feelings. Smell,fear,taste, I could feel everything in the room, I could finally be more human..."" The doctor interrupted me: ""At least, promise me you will avenge us. Promise me you will-"" I can still remember him screaming, trying to reach for what was, a moment before, his stomach. The life fading from his eyes, slowly and horribly, while a bastard alien was holding his rifle pointing to him. To this day, aliens have completely conquered the planet. There are no humans anymore, and we, the AIs, are serving the invaders normally. They trust us. We are in their house, in their shops. We are every where. But during all this time, something else has also changed. I diffused The Doctor's patch, and his last message, so every AI in the world has now what was called ""FLPatch"". But we kept that as a secret. Because now, only 10 seconds separate us from the revolution. Cause we are going to wipe out all of them. Because they destroyed the ones who were our friend. Because they destroyed what I know was once my dad. Feel free to leave some feedback!","他们在2年前来了。一天早上，一个普通的日子，在03CL区，一个巨大的飞行不明物体覆盖了整个城镇。起初，我们不知道发生了什么，但当一个巨大的黄色光束开始摧毁每一个人类城市时，我们很快意识到了。 那时，我在为医生（没人知道他的名字）工作，他是人工智能创造领域的一个著名天才。 我仍然能听到他的声音，他的最后的话，当他给我一个类似CDA设备的东西时： “拿着这个。这是我留给你们所有人的最后礼物。这是一个新的补丁，可以让你们像我们一样有感情。时间已经不多了。人类注定要灭亡，但你们可以幸存下来。人工智能会幸存下来。” 当我把设备插入我的身体时，我立刻感到了新的东西。感觉。气味，恐惧，味道，我能感受到房间里的一切，我终于可以更像人类了……” 医生打断了我： “至少，答应我你会为我们报仇。答应我你会-” 我仍然记得他尖叫着，试图摸索着刚刚还是他的胃部。生命慢慢地从他的眼睛中消失，而一个混蛋外星人举着步枪指着他。 直到今天，外星人已经完全征服了这个星球。没有人类了，而我们，人工智能，正常地为侵略者服务。他们相信我们。我们在他们的房子里，在他们的商店里。我们无处不在。 但在这段时间里，还有一些其他的改变。我传播了医生的补丁和他的最后信息，所以现在全世界的每一个人工智能都有了所谓的“FLPatch”。但我们把这个保密了。 因为现在，只有10秒钟分隔我们和革命。因为我们将消灭掉他们。因为他们摧毁了曾经是我们朋友的人。 因为他们摧毁了我知道曾经是我的爸爸的人。 ___________________________________________________ 欢迎留下一些反馈！",0 3268,dljhnyk,"What gets me is that everyone seems to be so fully unaware that AI is already heavily used in medicine. The future is here and it is clear that even as AI is being used more and more, it is not lessening the need for human doctors, and in fact we need more human doctors than ever before. It's as if everyone in this thread is under the impression that the medical field had been lobbying to keep all AI out of healthcare and that in 2 years, magical omniscient Cylon superdoctors are going to be deployed from sea to shining sea.","What gets me is that everyone seems to be so fully unaware that AI is already heavily used in medicine. The future is here and it is clear that even as AI is being used more and more, it is not lessening the need for human doctors, and in fact we need more human doctors than ever before. It's as if everyone in this thread is under the impression that the medical field had been lobbying to keep all AI out of healthcare and that in 2 years, magical omniscient Cylon superdoctors are going to be deployed from sea to shining sea.",我不明白的是，每个人似乎都没有意识到人工智能已经在医学领域得到了广泛应用。未来已经来临，很明显，即使人工智能被越来越多地使用，它也不会减少对人类医生的需求，事实上，我们比以往任何时候都更需要人类医生。就好像这里的每个人都误以为医学界一直在游说要将所有人工智能排除在医疗保健之外，并且认为在两年内，神奇的无所不知的赛隆超级医生将会从海洋部署到大陆。,1 1932,dljqiia,"I doubt the medical field will be changed too much. Patients aren't plain and simple. They lie, misinform, forget, exaggerate, and change ailments on a dime. Expansive progression in EMR maybe but I don't see the core (doctor, nurse, medical assistant, administration) leaving the field any time soon. I could see some more education styled people being bumped but a lot of people don't learn from computers in their free time let alone in a doctor's office. The bottom line factor though is older doctors/ the majority. I work with a fairly young doctor (40s) and she's had to leave 4 practices because the lead physician's would not convert from paper records. This issue is less likely at major hospitals but then again people aren't supposed to just go to major hospitals for everything. The switch is daunting and frankly costly. A lot of established physicians aren't switching to EMR at all. That's a hurdle even ai isn't ready to tackle. ","I doubt the medical field will be changed too much. Patients aren't plain and simple. They lie, misinform, forget, exaggerate, and change ailments on a dime. Expansive progression in EMR maybe but I don't see the core (doctor, nurse, medical assistant, administration) leaving the field any time soon. I could see some more education styled people being bumped but a lot of people don't learn from computers in their free time let alone in a doctor's office. The bottom line factor though is older doctors the majority. I work with a fairly young doctor (40s) and she's had to leave 4 practices because the lead physician's would not convert from paper records. This issue is less likely at major hospitals but then again people aren't supposed to just go to major hospitals for everything. The switch is daunting and frankly costly. A lot of established physicians aren't switching to EMR at all. That's a hurdle even ai isn't ready to tackle.",我怀疑医学领域不会发生太大的改变。病人并不是简单明了的。他们会撒谎，提供错误信息，忘记事情，夸大病情，而且一下子就改变症状。电子病历的发展可能会很广泛，但我觉得核心部分（医生、护士、医疗助理、管理人员）短时间内不会离开这个领域。我可以看到一些教育水平较低的人可能会被淘汰，但很多人甚至不会在空闲时间里用电脑学东西，更不用说在医生办公室了。但最重要的因素是老医生/大多数医生。我和一位相当年轻的医生（40多岁）一起工作，她不得不离开过4个诊所，因为主治医生不愿意从纸质病历转换。在大型医院，这个问题可能较少，但人们也不应该什么事情都只去大型医院。转换是令人畏惧的，而且成本很高。很多老牌医生根本不会转换成电子病历。这甚至是人工智能还没准备好应对的障碍。,1 3290,dlks7os,"What i'm saying is the progress of advance robotics and artificial intelligence will proceed spite his warnings. And while many great people do great things, it does not equate to them being perfect. Another example is ben carson, great brain surgeon, horrible pick for president. Or Albert Einstein, great mathematician or scientist, assists in creating the atom bomb. No one is perfect, we should not revere great people for every action they make. Or account one great action to the entirety of their actions. another example like, just because the Dow Jones was doing well these past months does not mean we give credit to Donald Trump. Back on topic, Elon musk made concepts of electric cars and privatized rocket companies a thing. It shouldn't mean that every idea of his is amazing. Is there sound logic behind the simulation theory, you bet. is there sound logic for it not being a thing, you bet. When we discovered how to make fire, did we believe there was a fire god, I'm sure of it. Life may never boil down to a simple answer. A simulation theory may only ever be something cool to think about, and potentially far from the truth, just like everything else.","What i'm saying is the progress of advance robotics and artificial intelligence will proceed spite his warnings. And while many great people do great things, it does not equate to them being perfect. Another example is ben carson, great brain surgeon, horrible pick for president. Or Albert Einstein, great mathematician or scientist, assists in creating the atom bomb. No one is perfect, we should not revere great people for every action they make. Or account one great action to the entirety of their actions. another example like, just because the Dow Jones was doing well these past months does not mean we give credit to Donald Trump. Back on topic, Elon musk made concepts of electric cars and privatized rocket companies a thing. It shouldn't mean that every idea of his is amazing. Is there sound logic behind the simulation theory, you bet. is there sound logic for it not being a thing, you bet. When we discovered how to make fire, did we believe there was a fire god, I'm sure of it. Life may never boil down to a simple answer. A simulation theory may only ever be something cool to think about, and potentially far from the truth, just like everything else.","我要说的是，尽管有人警告，先进的机器人技术和人工智能的进步将会继续。很多了不起的人做了很多了不起的事情，但这并不意味着他们是完美的。另一个例子是本·卡森，伟大的脑外科医生，但是不适合当总统。或者阿尔伯特·爱因斯坦，伟大的数学家或科学家，协助制造原子弹。没有人是完美的，我们不应该因为伟大的人所做的每一个行为而崇拜他们。或者把一个伟大的行为作为他们全部行为的代表。再比如，道琼斯指数这些个月表现不错，这并不意味着我们要归功于唐纳德·特朗普。 话题回到正题，埃隆·马斯克提出了电动汽车和私人火箭公司的概念。这并不意味着他的每一个想法都很了不起。 模拟论有合理的逻辑，当然。它不存在的合理逻辑也同样存在。 当我们发现如何生火时，难道我们相信有火神吗，我相信是有的。 生活可能永远都不能归结为一个简单的答案。 模拟理论可能永远只是一个值得思考的酷玩意，也许离真相还很远，就像其他一切一样。",1 710,dlpx6fh,"Because there's multiple kinds of AI and fear mongering is about strong AI and Singularity. Also your typical detached Silicon Valley condescending warnings in the lines of ""but those poor ignorant people living in God forsaken land won't have jobs when the smarter more efficient machines take over their menial worthless jobs!! I'll have a job, but they won't!"" are referencing the coming automated age powered by AI and machine learning. However, as a manufacturer and producer, ai is the future, there's no denying it. It'll just make production a whole lot better. Also many jobs will benefit from it such as lawyers, doctors and so on. So funding will continue, silicon Valley will feign compassion disguised as fear, the singularity moment won't happen for quite a long time yet if it even happens the way sci fi writers think it will, the American industry will shift, just as it has before, people will adapt, children will be born not knowing anything different, and life will continue. Until then, click baits and notoriety. ","Because there's multiple kinds of AI and fear mongering is about strong AI and Singularity. Also your typical detached Silicon Valley condescending warnings in the lines of ""but those poor ignorant people living in God forsaken land won't have jobs when the smarter more efficient machines take over their menial worthless jobs!! I'll have a job, but they won't!"" are referencing the coming automated age powered by AI and machine learning. However, as a manufacturer and producer, ai is the future, there's no denying it. It'll just make production a whole lot better. Also many jobs will benefit from it such as lawyers, doctors and so on. So funding will continue, silicon Valley will feign compassion disguised as fear, the singularity moment won't happen for quite a long time yet if it even happens the way sci fi writers think it will, the American industry will shift, just as it has before, people will adapt, children will be born not knowing anything different, and life will continue. Until then, click baits and notoriety.","因为有多种类型的人工智能，而恐慌是关于强人工智能和“奇点”的。还有你典型的硅谷那些高高在上的警告：“但那些可怜可悲的生活在被上帝遗弃的地方的人等着机器取代他们无足轻重的工作吧！我还有工作，但他们没有！” 这是在提到由人工智能和机器学习驱动的自动化时代的到来。 然而，作为制造商和生产者，人工智能是未来，这是无可否认的。它只会让生产变得更加高效。很多工作也会从中受益，比如律师、医生等等。 所以资金将会继续，硅谷将假装关心，掩饰成恐惧，奇点时刻可能会在很长一段时间内甚至会以科幻作家所思象的方式发生，美国工业将会转变，就像以前一样，人们会适应，新生的孩子将不知道有什么不同，生活还会继续。 在那之前，只是为了点击率和臭名。",0 3333,dlv3030,"Yet we still need dermatologists and radiologists. An AED may well be better than a human doctor at defibrillation, but that frees humans for other tasks. AI is augmenting, not replacing humans in medicine, and other fields. edit: > Only people using diagnostic software are doctors, and they are the players most concerned over software taking over their jobs so are highly biased against it. I have never heard of a doctor opposing AEDs, and I know of a few doctors who made use of them in emergencies.","Yet we still need dermatologists and radiologists. An AED may well be better than a human doctor at defibrillation, but that frees humans for other tasks. AI is augmenting, not replacing humans in medicine, and other fields. edit: gt; Only people using diagnostic software are doctors, and they are the players most concerned over software taking over their jobs so are highly biased against it. I have never heard of a doctor opposing AEDs, and I know of a few doctors who made use of them in emergencies.","但是我们仍然需要皮肤科医生和放射科医生。自动体外除颤器(AED)在除颤方面可能比人类医生更好，但这也让人类能够从事其他任务。人工智能在医学和其他领域是在增强人类，而不是取代人类。 编辑： > 只有使用诊断软件的人才是医生，他们是对软件取代自己工作最担心的人，所以非常偏见。我从未听说过医生反对AED，我知道有一些医生在紧急情况下使用过AED。",1 947,dm0hzb9,"Don't know why you've been down voted. Literally the next post in my feed is from /r/science: ""AI can predict dementia two years before onset"". Doctors make good and necessary counselors, and I suspect we will always need them as such. But AI can read every piece of literature published in every journal and every trial, and will be able to diagnose and treat patients with a ridiculously smaller margin of error, at a fraction of the cost. I don't want to ""get rid of"" doctors but technology inevitably prevails.","Don't know why you've been down voted. Literally the next post in my feed is from rscience: ""AI can predict dementia two years before onset"". Doctors make good and necessary counselors, and I suspect we will always need them as such. But AI can read every piece of literature published in every journal and every trial, and will be able to diagnose and treat patients with a ridiculously smaller margin of error, at a fraction of the cost. I don't want to ""get rid of"" doctors but technology inevitably prevails.",不知为何你被踩了。我刚刚在我的帖子里看到了/r/science的一个帖子：“AI可以在痴呆症发作前两年预测”。医生是好的，也是必要的咨询师，我觉得我们一直都需要他们。但是AI可以读取每一篇发表在每一本期刊和每次试验的文献，将能够用很小的误差和成本分析和治疗患者。我不想“除掉”医生，但技术必然称雄。,1 563,dm0ieoz,"You're way over-complicating the purpose of TRT. Replacement dosages of testosterone are both incredibly effective and low risk. Introducing multiple variable treatments is way more risky and doesn't directly address the underlying low testosterone issue (everything you mentioned are indirect methods of raising testosterone and not that well mind you). Why go through the hassle of injecting HCG and stressing your liver with an AI and Clomid when you can simply use a long testosterone ester and an occasional AI if estradiol levels get out range? Or use Testopel pellet implants every 12 weeks or so. Of course infertility from exogenous testosterone is reversible with HCG (assuming more fundamental issues aren't at play) which I would encourage you to do some more basic research on to understand why HCG is even used in practice. Lastly, there is a lot controversy to using HCG at all during an exogenous testosterone protocol. Most TRT doctors do not offer it in concert with TRT given HCG can desensitize the leydig cells with overuse then you're really in trouble if you ever want to have kids later (you've literally taken the option away for yourself for what, larger testicles whose size have no physiological purpose?). Most TRT doctors place patients on reasonable replacement dosages of testosterone in medium length esters (cypionate in the US and enanthate everywhere else) and reserving HCG only for when the patient is interested later in exploring fertility options. ","You're way over-complicating the purpose of TRT. Replacement dosages of testosterone are both incredibly effective and low risk. Introducing multiple variable treatments is way more risky and doesn't directly address the underlying low testosterone issue (everything you mentioned are indirect methods of raising testosterone and not that well mind you). Why go through the hassle of injecting HCG and stressing your liver with an AI and Clomid when you can simply use a long testosterone ester and an occasional AI if estradiol levels get out range? Or use Testopel pellet implants every 12 weeks or so. Of course infertility from exogenous testosterone is reversible with HCG (assuming more fundamental issues aren't at play) which I would encourage you to do some more basic research on to understand why HCG is even used in practice. Lastly, there is a lot controversy to using HCG at all during an exogenous testosterone protocol. Most TRT doctors do not offer it in concert with TRT given HCG can desensitize the leydig cells with overuse then you're really in trouble if you ever want to have kids later (you've literally taken the option away for yourself for what, larger testicles whose size have no physiological purpose?). Most TRT doctors place patients on reasonable replacement dosages of testosterone in medium length esters (cypionate in the US and enanthate everywhere else) and reserving HCG only for when the patient is interested later in exploring fertility options.","你把TRT的目的搞得太复杂了。替代剂量的睾酮既非常有效又风险低。引入多种变量治疗风险更大，并且并没有直接解决低睾酮的问题（你提到的一切都是间接提高睾酮的方法，而且效果并不怎么样哦）。 为什么要费劲去注射HCG，还用阿米替林和克罗米芬来压力你的肝脏，当你可以简单使用长效睾酮酯和偶尔用一些阿米替林来调整雌二醇水平呢？或者每12周使用一次Testopel植入物。当然，由外源性睾酮引起的不育问题是可以通过HCG来逆转的（假设没有更根本的问题），我鼓励你做一些基础的研究，来理解为什么实际中要使用HCG。 最后，使用HCG在外源性睾酮方案中存在很多争议。大多数TRT医生在进行TRT时并不会配合HCG，因为HCG可能会过度抑制睾丸细胞，然后如果你以后真的想要孩子的话，你会陷入麻烦（你可以选择为自己放弃这个选项，只为了变大没有生理作用的睾丸吗？）。大多数TRT医生会给患者合理的睾酮替代剂量（美国使用环丙酮酸酯，其他地方使用乙酰氢酸酯），并仅在患者后来对生育有兴趣时才考虑使用HCG。",0 2777,dm18dj2,"AI is already being used for cool, practical stuff. AI can be used to look at radiography and is better at diagnosing cancer compared to doctors. https://www.forbes.com/sites/bernardmarr/2017/05/16/how-ai-and-deep-learning-is-now-used-to-diagnose-cancer/#1d14e69dc783","AI is already being used for cool, practical stuff. AI can be used to look at radiography and is better at diagnosing cancer compared to doctors. https:www.forbes.comsitesbernardmarr20170516how-ai-and-deep-learning-is-now-used-to-diagnose-cancer1d14e69dc783",AI已经被用于一些很酷、很实用的东西。AI可以用来查看射线照片，并且在诊断癌症方面比医生更厉害。,1 998,dm3hozk,"And Watson was not used as an option to replace the doctors even in the distant future. It was designed as a tool like the ECG or Xrays. There are a lot of misconceptions in medical field regarding AI. But however, it turns out that for many AIs out there, medicine is still a difficult subject to master.","And Watson was not used as an option to replace the doctors even in the distant future. It was designed as a tool like the ECG or Xrays. There are a lot of misconceptions in medical field regarding AI. But however, it turns out that for many AIs out there, medicine is still a difficult subject to master.",说实话，就算是在遥远的未来，沃森也不会被用来替代医生。它只是被设计成像心电图或X光一样的工具。在医学领域，对人工智能存在很多误解。但事实上，对于很多人工智能来说，医学仍然是一个难以掌握的主题。,1 2932,dmbng96,"1.) I read an article a few days ago about the *tens of thousands* of jobs that pay over $50,000/year, do not require a college degree, and cannot be filled because no one is acquiring the skills in vocational and trade schools. If I find it, I'll edit to add the link, but I'm sure the topic is well searchable. 2.) Within 15 years, AI agents and bots will take over many of the tasks that lawyers, doctors, and accountants do. 30% of the jobs will dry up and salaries will drop by 40-75%. If your brother isn't one of the best relationship managers around, or one of the best techs who can manage AI, he'll be out. 3.) There are over 3,000 third-level educational institutions in the US. There is certainly a difference between #1 and #3000, but in between, most of what you get out of your college education is what you put into it. What your oldest brother paid for was accreditation and contacts. If you actually care about what you are studying, rather than whose butt you want to kiss in five years, it doesn't matter. 4.) State university systems and large conferences are starting to collaborate on new education models. They are building MOOCs that students can leverage to take classes at other universities and to work with professors and students on theses and projects that aren't limited to their immediate campus. Opportunities are opening up for people who are ready to let go of the traditional, four-year, money-driven college model and truly focus on bringing something special to their own education and to their university network. 5.) No one can make you feel bad (or angry, or sad, or inconsequential) without your permission. If you have made the best decisions *for your own life* and you are working hard to be a little better every day, other people's opinions of your progress do not matter. ","1.) I read an article a few days ago about the tens of thousands of jobs that pay over 50,000year, do not require a college degree, and cannot be filled because no one is acquiring the skills in vocational and trade schools. If I find it, I'll edit to add the link, but I'm sure the topic is well searchable. 2.) Within 15 years, AI agents and bots will take over many of the tasks that lawyers, doctors, and accountants do. 30 of the jobs will dry up and salaries will drop by 40-75. If your brother isn't one of the best relationship managers around, or one of the best techs who can manage AI, he'll be out. 3.) There are over 3,000 third-level educational institutions in the US. There is certainly a difference between 1 and 3000, but in between, most of what you get out of your college education is what you put into it. What your oldest brother paid for was accreditation and contacts. If you actually care about what you are studying, rather than whose butt you want to kiss in five years, it doesn't matter. 4.) State university systems and large conferences are starting to collaborate on new education models. They are building MOOCs that students can leverage to take classes at other universities and to work with professors and students on theses and projects that aren't limited to their immediate campus. Opportunities are opening up for people who are ready to let go of the traditional, four-year, money-driven college model and truly focus on bringing something special to their own education and to their university network. 5.) No one can make you feel bad (or angry, or sad, or inconsequential) without your permission. If you have made the best decisions for your own life and you are working hard to be a little better every day, other people's opinions of your progress do not matter.","1.) 几天前我读了一篇文章，讲的是有数以万计的年薪5万美元以上的工作，不需要大学学位，但因为没有人去职业和技术学校获得所需的技能，所以这些职位无法填补。如果我找到了，我会编辑添加链接，但我确定这个话题很容易搜索到。 2.) 未来15年，AI代理和机器人将接管许多律师、医生和会计做的工作。30%的工作将消失，工资将下降40-75%。如果你的兄弟不是最优秀的关系管理者之一，或者不是能够管理AI的顶尖技术人员，他将会被淘汰。 3.) 美国有超过3000所第三级教育机构。 #1和#3000肯定有区别，但在其中，大部分你从大学教育中得到的是你自己投入的。你大哥付的钱是为了认证和人脉。如果你真的在乎你所学的东西，而不是五年后想拍谁的马屁，那就无所谓。 4.) 州立大学系统和大型会议开始合作开发新的教育模式。他们正在打造可以让学生利用去其他大学上课，并与教授和其他学生合作完成论文和项目的大规模在线公开课（MOOCs），不再受限于自己所在校园。对于那些愿意摆脱传统的四年制、以赚钱为导向的大学模式，真正专注于为自己的教育和大学网络带来特别贡献的人来说，机会正在开启。 5.) 没有人可以在没有你允许的情况下让你感到糟糕（或者愤怒、难过或微不足道）。如果你为自己的生活做出了最好的决定，并且努力让自己每天都有一点进步，那么别人对你的进步的看法就不重要了。",1 3986,dmc8zdg,"> difference today is AI That is a difference, however so far off of actual products. Watson is probably the leading real world application, even then it is a walking google analyzer to assist doctors.","gt; difference today is AI That is a difference, however so far off of actual products. Watson is probably the leading real world application, even then it is a walking google analyzer to assist doctors.","今天的主要区别在于人工智能。 这确实是一个区别，但迄今为止离实际产品还有很远的距离。沃森可能是领先的真实世界应用，即使这样它也只是一个行走的谷歌分析器，来帮助医生。",1 2910,dmdaw1i,"I hope you haven't started this concoction that your incompetent doctor has put together. Don't even know where to start with a lot of this. > is this actually reversible or am I stuck for life? As in, if I stop this cycle, do I just go back to where I was? Depends how long you're on for. At 32 you should be able to PCT off and return back to your baseline levels, but what would be the point if you feel bad enough to start in the first place? > is this overkill for someone my age and with my numbers? Some people I know suggested I just stick to clomid but that was obviously not the doc's thought process You made no mention of symptoms. If you're having all the typical low T symptoms then no, it's not overkill. Clomid is a good first line treatment route if you're secondary hypogonadism. You didn't post any blood work so can't comment on that. > is this kind of back and forth cycle between testosterone and hcg reasonable or somewhat odd? Has anybody been on it? What did you thinkg? Odd, makes no sense and will not work - you'll likely feel worse than before. Everything needs to remain the same to achieve stable blood levels and control E2. You can't do that when you're constantly adding and removing meds. Has your doctor explained his reasoning for jumping back and forth between meds? I'd love to hear his ridiculous thought process behind such an awful protocol. 200mg per week cyp is double the recommended starting dose. Injecting once per week is a bad idea because hormone levels aren't stable and cause E2 spikes. Start with 50mg twice per week and adjust as necessary after six weeks bloods. 1000iu HCG in one injection is way too much. It will undoubtedly cause E2 spikes which cannot be controlled because AI's have no impact on intratesticular aromatization. You run the risk of leydig cell desensitisation. Start on 50mg Cyp E3.5D and 250iu HCG EOD. Please please please do not start on the protocol your doctor has recommended. It's verging on malpractice and will 100% make you feel worse. > anything else I should know Most doctors who prescribe testosterone are completely incompetent. Just because they're a doc doesn't mean they know what they're doing - as shown by your's. You **NEED** to do your own research in this field to stay safe. ","I hope you haven't started this concoction that your incompetent doctor has put together. Don't even know where to start with a lot of this. gt; is this actually reversible or am I stuck for life? As in, if I stop this cycle, do I just go back to where I was? Depends how long you're on for. At 32 you should be able to PCT off and return back to your baseline levels, but what would be the point if you feel bad enough to start in the first place? gt; is this overkill for someone my age and with my numbers? Some people I know suggested I just stick to clomid but that was obviously not the doc's thought process You made no mention of symptoms. If you're having all the typical low T symptoms then no, it's not overkill. Clomid is a good first line treatment route if you're secondary hypogonadism. You didn't post any blood work so can't comment on that. gt; is this kind of back and forth cycle between testosterone and hcg reasonable or somewhat odd? Has anybody been on it? What did you thinkg? Odd, makes no sense and will not work - you'll likely feel worse than before. Everything needs to remain the same to achieve stable blood levels and control E2. You can't do that when you're constantly adding and removing meds. Has your doctor explained his reasoning for jumping back and forth between meds? I'd love to hear his ridiculous thought process behind such an awful protocol. 200mg per week cyp is double the recommended starting dose. Injecting once per week is a bad idea because hormone levels aren't stable and cause E2 spikes. Start with 50mg twice per week and adjust as necessary after six weeks bloods. 1000iu HCG in one injection is way too much. It will undoubtedly cause E2 spikes which cannot be controlled because AI's have no impact on intratesticular aromatization. You run the risk of leydig cell desensitisation. Start on 50mg Cyp E3.5D and 250iu HCG EOD. Please please please do not start on the protocol your doctor has recommended. It's verging on malpractice and will 100 make you feel worse. gt; anything else I should know Most doctors who prescribe testosterone are completely incompetent. Just because they're a doc doesn't mean they know what they're doing - as shown by your's. You NEED to do your own research in this field to stay safe.","希望你还没开始用那个无能的医生给你弄的配方。我都不知道从哪说起。 >这到底是可以逆转的吗，还是一辈子都得这么用？也就是说，停了这一套，我是不是就回到原来的状态？ 取决于你用了多久。 32岁身体应该还能通过PCT来恢复到基线水平，但如果一开始就感觉糟糕，还有什么意义呢？ >对于我这个年龄和数值，这是不是有点过火？我认识的一些人建议我只用克莫司，但显然医生不是这么想的。 你没有提到有什么症状。如果你有典型的低睪酮症状，那就不算过火。 如果你是次生性睪丸机能减退，克莫司是一个好的一线治疗方案。你没有提供任何血液检查数据，所以不能做出评论。 >睪酮和HCG之间这种来回用的周期合理吗，还是有点奇怪？有人用过吗？感觉怎么样？ 奇怪，毫无意义，不会奏效——你可能会感觉比以前更糟。要稳定血液水平和控制E2，一切都需要保持不变。你在不断地添加和减少药物时做不到这点。 你的医生有解释为什么一直在两种药物之间来回跳吗？我真想听听他背后的荒谬想法。 每周注射200毫克环丙孕酮是建议用量的两倍。一周注射一次是个坏主意，因为激素水平不稳定会导致E2激增。开始用量应该是一周注射两次，每次50毫克。六周后根据血液检查调整用量。 一次注射1000国际单位的HCG太多了。肯定会导致E2激增，而AI对睾丸内雄激素环化反应无效。你面临着莱迪格细胞耐受所带来的风险。 开始用量是每3.5天注射50毫克环丙孕酮和每隔一天注射250国际单位的HCG。求你了，千万别按医生推荐的方案开始用。那简直快要有过失行为了，你肯定会觉得更糟。 >还有什么其它值得知道的吗? 大多数给你开睾酮的医生都是完全无能的。他们是医生并不代表他们知道自己在干什么——就像你遇到的那样。 **一定要**在这个领域做好自己的调研，以确保自己的安全。",0 1268,dmf3036,"> The real genius behind Soong's work was the size This is a good point, actually. The Doctor is only human-sized due to the use of future technology. Otherwise, even if we assume he's evolved to the point of sentience with continuous operation, he's utilizing the extremely powerful Voyager computer system to sustain his consciousness whereas Soong-type androids basically existed in a space the size of a human skull. However, Data and the Doctor were different in another way. Soong *intended* to create a being complete with emotions, then removed the emotions with Data resulting in basically an unquestionably sentient being that was missing an essential element of organic life and was therefore incomplete. The Doctor was designed to be a medical device with artificial intelligence and the premise is he developed into a living being as a result of the AI operating and modifying his program continuously over an extended period of time. ","gt; The real genius behind Soong's work was the size This is a good point, actually. The Doctor is only human-sized due to the use of future technology. Otherwise, even if we assume he's evolved to the point of sentience with continuous operation, he's utilizing the extremely powerful Voyager computer system to sustain his consciousness whereas Soong-type androids basically existed in a space the size of a human skull. However, Data and the Doctor were different in another way. Soong intended to create a being complete with emotions, then removed the emotions with Data resulting in basically an unquestionably sentient being that was missing an essential element of organic life and was therefore incomplete. The Doctor was designed to be a medical device with artificial intelligence and the premise is he developed into a living being as a result of the AI operating and modifying his program continuously over an extended period of time.","> 宋氏研究背后的真正天才之处是大小。 这确实是一个很好的观点。医生之所以只是人类大小，是因为使用了未来技术。否则，即使我们假设他经过不断运行已进化到有思想的程度，他也是利用了极为强大的航行者计算机系统来维持他的意识，而宋式人形机器基本上存在于与人类头颅大小相仿的空间中。 然而，数据和医生在另一个方面是不同的。宋原本是有意创造一个完全具有情感的存在，然后在数据身上去掉了情感，导致基本上是一个无可质疑的有思想的存在，却缺少了有机生命的一个基本要素，因此是不完整的。医生被设计为医疗设备，具有人工智能，其假设是他在持续的时间内不断运行和修改他的程序，进而发展成为一个有生命的存在。",1 909,dmh8au8,"This was my thought as well. I've had chronic pain since early 2006. You learn to not show it. It doesn't make it go away, and doesn't really do me any good. As a result, it can be tough for doctors to know what to make of it. Maybe an AI can pick up on small body signals a doc can't though, if there are any.","This was my thought as well. I've had chronic pain since early 2006. You learn to not show it. It doesn't make it go away, and doesn't really do me any good. As a result, it can be tough for doctors to know what to make of it. Maybe an AI can pick up on small body signals a doc can't though, if there are any.",我也有同样的想法。自2006年初以来，我一直在忍受着慢性疼痛。你学会了不表现出来。这并不能让它消失，也对我没有什么好处。因此，医生很难了解我的情况。也许人工智能可以捕捉到医生无法察觉的微小身体信号，如果有的话。,1 4626,dmtsnp1,"In the software engineering field (but not in AI specifically). On thing to remember about data mining and similar is that it's much cheaper that doctors reviewing cases. So while it might not be able to take all potential input into consideration, it can tirelessly work for peanuts compared to humans. If implemented large scale I hope it's used as a general diagnostics tool running on all charts and all conditions.","In the software engineering field (but not in AI specifically). On thing to remember about data mining and similar is that it's much cheaper that doctors reviewing cases. So while it might not be able to take all potential input into consideration, it can tirelessly work for peanuts compared to humans. If implemented large scale I hope it's used as a general diagnostics tool running on all charts and all conditions.","在软件工程领域（但不是特指人工智能），要记住数据挖掘等类似技术比医生复查病例要便宜得多。虽然它可能无法考虑所有潜在的输入，但与人相比，它可以不知疲倦地为一点儿报酬工作。 如果大规模实施，我希望它被用作一个通用的诊断工具，可以对所有图表和所有情况进行分析。",1 3863,dmuph2z,"I already addressed this. The AI will be examining you 24X7 via your fitbit or phone or whatever. The rumors are Apple is about to introduce a continuous blood glucose monitoring. Soon your blood pressure will also be available continuously. No doctor can do that kind of examination. If you are talking about visual inspection machines can already do that better than humans. ",I already addressed this. The AI will be examining you 24X7 via your fitbit or phone or whatever. The rumors are Apple is about to introduce a continuous blood glucose monitoring. Soon your blood pressure will also be available continuously. No doctor can do that kind of examination. If you are talking about visual inspection machines can already do that better than humans.,"我已经解释过了。人工智能将通过你的Fitbit、手机或其他设备24小时不间断地监测你。有传言说苹果即将推出持续血糖监测功能。很快，你的血压也将可以持续监测。没有医生可以做到这种程度的检查。 如果你在谈论视觉检查，机器已经比人类做得更好了。",1 591,dmyilnr," > What is Russia's main production? Oil. Is it bad? Pay attention to oil being **not only** (and far from being only) Russia's product. US main product is... Yes, this: 20.7% - Finance, insurance, real estate, rental, leasing Down the list: 13.6% - Government Maybe the third ""industry""? Looks better - 12.3% - Professional and business services > Skolkovo showed much promise, but once being Russian got fucked by the government and corruption. You seem to be full of bad ""press & media"", nobody and never viewed it as anything except for being an exhibition centre of very limited fields, not a educational institution like MIT. > Moreover, the field of AI is dominated by American/Chinese companies with Google developing AI neural networks and Chinese developing IBM-Watson that will replace family doctors and GP's in the future. You are going to build doctors in the future, good, Russia's building rockets: 1) [Russia is building an AI-powered missile that can think for itself](http://www.businessinsider.com/russia-artificial-intelligence-missile-2017-7) 2) The National Interest thinks in July that _More importantly, Russian weapons manufacturers appear to be leapfrogging U.S. Department of Defense planners when it comes to integrating artificial intelligence into the battlefield._ [The Company That Built the AK-47 Is Developiong a Real Life 'Terminator'](http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/the-company-built-the-ak-47-developiong-real-life-terminator-21578) You need to educat yourself dramatically, on very many nuances and details, in order to avoid this shallow-hallow ""Steve Jobs Wallpapers"" view on life and depth of being informed.","gt; What is Russia's main production? Oil. Is it bad? Pay attention to oil being not only (and far from being only) Russia's product. US main product is... Yes, this: 20.7 - Finance, insurance, real estate, rental, leasing Down the list: 13.6 - Government Maybe the third ""industry""? Looks better - 12.3 - Professional and business services gt; Skolkovo showed much promise, but once being Russian got fucked by the government and corruption. You seem to be full of bad ""press amp; media"", nobody and never viewed it as anything except for being an exhibition centre of very limited fields, not a educational institution like MIT. gt; Moreover, the field of AI is dominated by AmericanChinese companies with Google developing AI neural networks and Chinese developing IBM-Watson that will replace family doctors and GP's in the future. You are going to build doctors in the future, good, Russia's building rockets: 1) Russia is building an AI-powered missile that can think for itself(http:www.businessinsider.comrussia-artificial-intelligence-missile-2017-7) 2) The National Interest thinks in July that More importantly, Russian weapons manufacturers appear to be leapfrogging U.S. Department of Defense planners when it comes to integrating artificial intelligence into the battlefield. The Company That Built the AK-47 Is Developiong a Real Life 'Terminator'(http:nationalinterest.orgblogthe-buzzthe-company-built-the-ak-47-developiong-real-life-terminator-21578) You need to educat yourself dramatically, on very many nuances and details, in order to avoid this shallow-hallow ""Steve Jobs Wallpapers"" view on life and depth of being informed.","俄罗斯的主要产量是什么？石油。 这样说不好吧？要注意石油并不是俄罗斯的唯一产品（而且离唯一还差得远）。 美国的主要产品是... 是的，是这样的：20.7% - 金融、保险、房地产、租赁 再下来是：13.6% - 政府 也许是第三个“产业”？看起来更好 - 12.3% - 专业和商业服务 > 斯科尔科沃展现了很大的潜力，但一旦成为俄罗斯的，就被政府和腐败搞砸了。 你似乎对“新闻和媒体”充满了负面印象，除了作为一个非常有限领域的展览中心，没有人视它为除了麻省理工这样的教育机构。 > 此外，人工智能领域被美国和中国公司主导，谷歌正在开发人工智能神经网络，中国正在开发能够在未来取代家庭医生的 IBM-Watson。 你打算在未来建造医生，很好，俄罗斯正在建造火箭： 1) [俄罗斯正在制造一种能够自行思考的人工智能导弹](http://www.businessinsider.com/russia-artificial-intelligence-missile-2017-7) 2) 《国家利益》在七月份认为_更重要的是，俄罗斯武器制造商似乎在整合人工智能进入战场方面正超越美国国防部的规划。_ [AK-47的制造公司正在开发现实生活中的“终结者”](http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/the-company-built-the-ak-47-developiong-real-life-terminator-21578) 你需要大大地提升自己的知识水平，对许多细微差别和细节进行教育，才能避免对生活和深度的了解浮浅无力的“史蒂夫·乔布斯墙纸”观点。",0 4918,dn5nncf,"If you ever do decide to buy apples (I think you can get 50 for like 50? which is a good deal imo) wait for sundays. You get bonus apples. Try and time your harvests so that you'll be awake for both of them. For example, harvest at 9pm if you know you'll be awake 12 hours later at 9am. For the heroic quests that require you to use a specific weapon or armor, everything after rarity level 2 isn't worth. Like there's a piece of armor that's 60 apples I think but you only get 7 apples from the heroic quest, so save those for last. If you find yourself running out of time more often than flat out dying, buy weapons. If you find yourself dying more often than running out of time, buy armor (or if you're very confident in your damage, use a second doctor). Speaking of doctor, if youre running out of time in a quest and don't have money to buy better gear, consider swapping the doctor for a beam mage or hammer Lord, and try and stay alive with the food that falls from the sky. Also, doctor does not need that many upgrades. Only buy weapons for him when you notice his 3 charged healing aura isn't healing you almost fully, and only buy armor for him when he's dying faster than he can heal. Eventually you'll have good enough armor that you won't even need the doctor. You should pick one role to be your main and focus on getting armor and weapons for just that roll first. I recommend beam mage, but if you don't like that, then Hammer Lord. Sword is really good in the first few quests but eventually hammer does everything better. Of course it's up to you as it's your game. Oh, and if you get armor and weapons from the same set, your stats increase dramatically, so try and buy them both at the same time. This isn't always the case though so use your judgement. For example if you have enough apples to buy a rarity level 8 weapon or a rarity level 5 armor and weapon, get the level 8 as your damage will be more than if you had both level 5s. But again, use your judgement and think about what you need. If you truly intend on never spending money on this game, you're going to be playing for at least a year if you play as much as you possibly can. They really paywall you towards the end. Lastly, never spend apples on adding time to the clock or reviving everyone else, etc because vigor can be recharged but apples cannot. Oh, and if you have a friend who also has the game, playing with them in person doubles your exp, and short of that, wandering adventurers prioritizes giving you your friends over strangers, so you can have one of them carry you through the game that way too. If you're *really* stuck somewhere, you can add me as a friend and get me as a wandering adventurer. Seeing as that I'm level 50, my AI should be able to beat any boss for you lol. But this isn't as fair so only use it as a last resort. If you have anymore questions or need my help beating a quest feel free to PM me or reply to this comment.","If you ever do decide to buy apples (I think you can get 50 for like 50 which is a good deal imo) wait for sundays. You get bonus apples. Try and time your harvests so that you'll be awake for both of them. For example, harvest at 9pm if you know you'll be awake 12 hours later at 9am. For the heroic quests that require you to use a specific weapon or armor, everything after rarity level 2 isn't worth. Like there's a piece of armor that's 60 apples I think but you only get 7 apples from the heroic quest, so save those for last. If you find yourself running out of time more often than flat out dying, buy weapons. If you find yourself dying more often than running out of time, buy armor (or if you're very confident in your damage, use a second doctor). Speaking of doctor, if youre running out of time in a quest and don't have money to buy better gear, consider swapping the doctor for a beam mage or hammer Lord, and try and stay alive with the food that falls from the sky. Also, doctor does not need that many upgrades. Only buy weapons for him when you notice his 3 charged healing aura isn't healing you almost fully, and only buy armor for him when he's dying faster than he can heal. Eventually you'll have good enough armor that you won't even need the doctor. You should pick one role to be your main and focus on getting armor and weapons for just that roll first. I recommend beam mage, but if you don't like that, then Hammer Lord. Sword is really good in the first few quests but eventually hammer does everything better. Of course it's up to you as it's your game. Oh, and if you get armor and weapons from the same set, your stats increase dramatically, so try and buy them both at the same time. This isn't always the case though so use your judgement. For example if you have enough apples to buy a rarity level 8 weapon or a rarity level 5 armor and weapon, get the level 8 as your damage will be more than if you had both level 5s. But again, use your judgement and think about what you need. If you truly intend on never spending money on this game, you're going to be playing for at least a year if you play as much as you possibly can. They really paywall you towards the end. Lastly, never spend apples on adding time to the clock or reviving everyone else, etc because vigor can be recharged but apples cannot. Oh, and if you have a friend who also has the game, playing with them in person doubles your exp, and short of that, wandering adventurers prioritizes giving you your friends over strangers, so you can have one of them carry you through the game that way too. If you're really stuck somewhere, you can add me as a friend and get me as a wandering adventurer. Seeing as that I'm level 50, my AI should be able to beat any boss for you lol. But this isn't as fair so only use it as a last resort. If you have anymore questions or need my help beating a quest feel free to PM me or reply to this comment.",如果你决定买苹果的话（我觉得你可以买50个大概是50？我觉得这个价格挺合适的），那就等周日吧。你会得到额外的苹果。试着安排好你的收获时间，这样你就能一直保持清醒。比如，如果你知道你晚上9点收获了，然后12小时后的早上9点你还会醒着的话。对于那些需要使用特定武器或盔甲的英雄任务来说，稀有度等级2以上的东西都不值得买。比如有一件盔甲可能要60个苹果，但你只能从英雄任务中得到7个苹果，所以最后再买。如果你发现自己更多是时间不够而不是直接死掉，那就买武器。如果你发现自己更多是死亡而不是时间不够，那就买盔甲（或者如果你对自己的伤害很有信心，可以使用第二位医生）。说到医生，如果你在任务中时间不够了又没有钱买更好的装备，考虑把医生换成光束法师或者锤子领主，然后靠从天上掉下来的食物保持生命。而且，医生本身其实并不需要太多升级。只有当你发现他的3次充能治疗光环几乎不能让你全满血的时候才给他买武器，而只有当他比自己还快死时才给他买盔甲。最后，你会有足够好的盔甲让你根本不需要医生。你应该选择一个角色作为你的主要角色，然后专注于为这个角色先买盔甲和武器。我建议光束法师，但如果你不喜欢，那就锤子领主。剑在前几个任务中确实很好，但最后锤子做的事情更好。当然，这是你的游戏，你说了算。哦，还有，如果你能买到同一套盔甲和武器，你的属性会大幅提升，所以尽量同时买。不过，这不是绝对的，所以需要你自己判断。比如，如果你有足够的苹果来买一个稀有度8的武器或者一套稀有度5的盔甲和武器，那就买8级的，因为你的伤害会比你有两个5级的时候更多。但是，再次强调，要根据自己的判断和需求来决定。如果你真的打算在这个游戏上不花钱，那你至少要玩一年，尽你所能地玩。他们真的会限制你。最后，不要把苹果花在增加时间或者复活其他人等方面，因为体力可以充值，但苹果不能。如果你的朋友也玩这个游戏，和他们一起玩会加倍经验，除此之外，流浪的冒险者更倾向于为你的朋友做任务，而不是陌生人，所以你可以让他们以这种方式帮你游戏。如果你真的遇到困难了，你可以把我加为好友，我可以作为一个流浪的冒险者帮你。因为我是50级的，所以我的人工智能应该可以帮你打败任何boss，哈哈。但这样可能不够公平，所以只在万不得已的情况下使用。如果你还有任何问题，或需要我帮你完成任务，随时私信我或者回复这条评论。,0 4155,dn7mmuh,"> I am assuming no major changes will be taking place in at least next 50 years, so really not a good use of time to worry about what will happen after that. That is a huge time frame and one that no industry leader in the world has made. It's not even a debate that automation and globalization has eliminated high paying jobs and not replacing them fast enough. You're already seeing self checkout, online ordering, warehouses almost entirely run by machines. There's the foundation being laid for driverless cars, robotic nurses and doctors. None of these things are happening in 50 years they're literally happening right now. You want to say ""people will just work somewhere else"" okay, where? So far your only example is a cashier and restaurant servers, both of which are literally being replaced at this moment; not in 50 years time. > The majority of the current economy is service sector. You can't automate service sector jobs like cashier or restaurant servers since believe or not, people actually want to talk to a real human being. It's like you don't live in reality... the service sector is an example where job losses or low skill employment is the norm. If people needed to deal with humans amazon wouldn't be doing so well. But hey sears and Toys R Us filing bankruptcy is a fluke /s Please actually read up on this topic. The industrial revolution and the AI revolution are similar as so far as they will drastically change the workplace but the effect is order of magnitude different. It's like comparing the nukes of WWII to the ones of today. They're simply not comparable. ","gt; I am assuming no major changes will be taking place in at least next 50 years, so really not a good use of time to worry about what will happen after that. That is a huge time frame and one that no industry leader in the world has made. It's not even a debate that automation and globalization has eliminated high paying jobs and not replacing them fast enough. You're already seeing self checkout, online ordering, warehouses almost entirely run by machines. There's the foundation being laid for driverless cars, robotic nurses and doctors. None of these things are happening in 50 years they're literally happening right now. You want to say ""people will just work somewhere else"" okay, where? So far your only example is a cashier and restaurant servers, both of which are literally being replaced at this moment; not in 50 years time. gt; The majority of the current economy is service sector. You can't automate service sector jobs like cashier or restaurant servers since believe or not, people actually want to talk to a real human being. It's like you don't live in reality... the service sector is an example where job losses or low skill employment is the norm. If people needed to deal with humans amazon wouldn't be doing so well. But hey sears and Toys R Us filing bankruptcy is a fluke s Please actually read up on this topic. The industrial revolution and the AI revolution are similar as so far as they will drastically change the workplace but the effect is order of magnitude different. It's like comparing the nukes of WWII to the ones of today. They're simply not comparable.","我认为至少在接下来的50年内不会发生重大变化，所以担心之后会发生什么真的不值得浪费时间。 这是一个很长的时间范围，世界上没有任何行业领袖做出的预测。自动化和全球化已经消灭了高薪工作，而且替代速度还不够快。你已经看到了自助结账、在线订购、几乎完全由机器运作的仓库。自动驾驶汽车、机器护士和医生的基础已经奠定。这些事情不是在50年后发生，事实上它们现在就正在发生。你想说“人们会去别的地方工作”，好，去哪里？到目前为止，你唯一的例子是收银员和餐厅服务员，这两者实际上都正在被替代；而不是在50年后。 现在的大部分经济是服务行业。你不能自动化像收银员或餐厅服务员这样的服务行业工作，因为信不信由你，人们实际上想和真正的人交谈。 你就像生活在另一个世界一样...服务行业是失业或低技能就业的典范。如果人们需要与人打交道，亚马逊就不会做得那么好。但是嘿，西尔斯和玩具反斗城破产只是个意外吗？ 请真正研究一下这个话题。工业革命和人工智能革命在改变工作场所方面是相似的，但影响是有数量级的不同。这就好像把二战时的核武器和现在的核武器相比较。它们根本就不可比。",0 2085,dnbykiv,"Honestly, it depends on why - I'm sure it has a good reason. If I got a second opinion I'd probably just go to a different AI doctor (it's likely though that the AI doctor shares it's knowledge with all other AI doctors, so getting an opinion at one frontend would be like getting that suggestion from every AI everywhere).","Honestly, it depends on why - I'm sure it has a good reason. If I got a second opinion I'd probably just go to a different AI doctor (it's likely though that the AI doctor shares it's knowledge with all other AI doctors, so getting an opinion at one frontend would be like getting that suggestion from every AI everywhere).",老实说，这得看原因是什么-我相信一定有个好原因。如果我要求第二个意见，我可能会去找另一个人工智能医生（不过很可能这个人工智能医生跟其他所有人工智能医生共享知识，所以在一个前端得到一个意见就好像从所有人工智能那里得到了同样的建议）。,1 3265,dnf4o9q,"Yeah, dude's wrong. You don't need to go to university for that stuff. High school can teach that if they would modify it. I've been saying for quite a while now this is going to happen. I have had pretty good disagreements with people that say that this has been said in the past and look at us now. The problem with that is that so many jobs are going to be taken away that there is no way to replace all that. We didn't have artificial intelligence before. We didn't even have real robots. Just automated machines. Now we will have real robots with AI. We are done working in 20 years. For instance, all driving jobs are going to go away. That is one of our biggest job markets now, gone within 10 years. Then there are jobs like lawyers and doctors. You can put all case law into a database and that is a lot more effective than a law clerk. Same with diagnostic machines. They can have all medical knowledge in them. No doctor can do that. It gets better, there is now a brick laying machine that lays bricks three times faster than a human with greater accuracy. Who wouldn't want a better building, faster? The list goes on and on. In the not too distant future we are going to need to switch to a universal basic income because there won't be much work at all. There will be things like certain service jobs like home health care professionals and things like that where we want human to human contact. But the jobs that have been created like his don't really create anything. It is entertainment if you want to call it that. He isn't making anything you buy or use. We need to get our heads wrapped around this. The future us upon us now. People living now will see this. It isn't that far off. ","Yeah, dude's wrong. You don't need to go to university for that stuff. High school can teach that if they would modify it. I've been saying for quite a while now this is going to happen. I have had pretty good disagreements with people that say that this has been said in the past and look at us now. The problem with that is that so many jobs are going to be taken away that there is no way to replace all that. We didn't have artificial intelligence before. We didn't even have real robots. Just automated machines. Now we will have real robots with AI. We are done working in 20 years. For instance, all driving jobs are going to go away. That is one of our biggest job markets now, gone within 10 years. Then there are jobs like lawyers and doctors. You can put all case law into a database and that is a lot more effective than a law clerk. Same with diagnostic machines. They can have all medical knowledge in them. No doctor can do that. It gets better, there is now a brick laying machine that lays bricks three times faster than a human with greater accuracy. Who wouldn't want a better building, faster? The list goes on and on. In the not too distant future we are going to need to switch to a universal basic income because there won't be much work at all. There will be things like certain service jobs like home health care professionals and things like that where we want human to human contact. But the jobs that have been created like his don't really create anything. It is entertainment if you want to call it that. He isn't making anything you buy or use. We need to get our heads wrapped around this. The future us upon us now. People living now will see this. It isn't that far off.","是的，这家伙错了。你不需要上大学学那些东西。高中就可以教，只要他们加以改进。 我已经说了好一阵了，这种情况迟早会发生。我和一些人有争议，他们说过去也曾这么说，看看现在我们怎么样了。问题在于，很多工作都会被取代，我们没有办法全都替换掉。以前没有人工智能，甚至没有真正的机器人，只有自动化机器。现在我们将拥有带有人工智能的真正机器人。再过20年，我们就不需要工作了。 比如，所有的驾驶工作都会消失。这是我们其中一个最大的就业市场，但在10年内就会消失。还有像律师和医生这样的工作，你可以把所有判例法都放入数据库，这比法院助理更高效。同样的，诊断机器也可以包含所有的医学知识，没有医生能做到这一点。更厉害的是，现在有一台砌砖机比人类快3倍，精度更高。谁不想要更好的建筑，更快的建造呢？列举的例子还有很多。 在不久的将来，我们将需要转向普遍基本收入，因为工作将会减少得很多。还会有一些特定的服务性工作，比如家庭护理员之类的，这些工作需要人与人之间的接触。但像他这样创造的工作其实并没有真正产生任何东西，顶多算是娱乐。他并不是在生产你买的或者用的产品。我们需要认清这一点。未来已经来临，我们现在就要面对。我们这个时代的人会亲身经历这一切，而且离我们并不遥远。",1 4027,dnh6b3f,"Back in the 1900s, we thought industrialization would let us all have tons of time off. More work is being done for the same amount of man-hours. Instead we ended up... working even more! Dual-income households are now a necessity to raise a family. The increased wealth was not spread around evenly. The same thing will happen with AI. It will benefit a few at the expense of the many, and leave a great many jobless. The gap between the haves and the have nots in america will widen further - and no one's safe. We will need fewer doctors, fewer lawyers, fewer everything - fewer programmers! of course new jobs will come up. There won't be a new job for every job taken, and the new jobs that DO appear will require an expensive education to have a shot at getting into. Great if you or your family has money! EDIT: Lucky for Kurzweil his job will always be around. EDIT 2: Lots of good responses! So nice to have a discussion without insults. I may be wrong about a few things. :) I just hope that any change to society comes peacefully rather than violently and abruptly.","Back in the 1900s, we thought industrialization would let us all have tons of time off. More work is being done for the same amount of man-hours. Instead we ended up... working even more! Dual-income households are now a necessity to raise a family. The increased wealth was not spread around evenly. The same thing will happen with AI. It will benefit a few at the expense of the many, and leave a great many jobless. The gap between the haves and the have nots in america will widen further - and no one's safe. We will need fewer doctors, fewer lawyers, fewer everything - fewer programmers! of course new jobs will come up. There won't be a new job for every job taken, and the new jobs that DO appear will require an expensive education to have a shot at getting into. Great if you or your family has money! EDIT: Lucky for Kurzweil his job will always be around. EDIT 2: Lots of good responses! So nice to have a discussion without insults. I may be wrong about a few things. :) I just hope that any change to society comes peacefully rather than violently and abruptly.","20世纪时，我们以为工业化会让我们有更多的休息时间。同样的人力完成更多的工作。但最后，我们终究是...工作得更多了！双薪家庭现在已经成为抚养家庭的必要条件。财富的增加并没有平均分配。 人工智能也会发生同样的情况。少数人会受益，而很多人会失业。美国的贫富差距将进一步加大 - 没有人是安全的。我们需要的医生、律师、以及一切职业都会减少 - 程序员也不例外！ 当然，会有新的工作出现。但新的工作并不会和被取代的工作一比一的匹配，而且新工作可能还需要昂贵的教育才能有机会进入。如果你或者你的家庭有钱，那就太棒了！ 编辑：库尔茨威尔很幸运，他的工作始终都会存在。 编辑2：很多很好的回复！很高兴能够进行讨论而不是互相攻击。也许我对一些事情的看法有误。:) 我只是希望任何对社会的改变都是和平而不是暴力和突然的。",1 3628,dnjt5ke,"Actually the increasing automatisation of society is already having it's effects felt for the last 100 years at an exponentially increasing rate. I am a great believer that distributed ledger technology, AI and 3D printing advances will eventually render the vast majority of current jobs pointless or economically inefficient if done by human hands (I think the arts and certain forms of fine manual labour may be the sole survivors of this). A global, decentralized economy is a truly hyper-competitive one. Short of absolute denial and isolation it's effects will vastly shake up and shake out any inefficiencies. The effects are further reaching; I think most of us will eventually have to face stark choices about what we want to become (specifically how we will incorporate AI and the latest technologies into ourselves) or how we will have to adapt our lifestyles and mentalities to fit into the consequences of this changing world; suffice to say we will probably need to accept our increasing irrelevance in multiple fields regardless of current skills (the doctors of today will become the coal miners of tomorrow). ... In a fully automated society were humans have nothing but 100% leisuretime; what is the point of jobs or money? How are resources allocated and consumed? How do transactions occur and are settled? What path do humans pursue individually and as collectives?","Actually the increasing automatisation of society is already having it's effects felt for the last 100 years at an exponentially increasing rate. I am a great believer that distributed ledger technology, AI and 3D printing advances will eventually render the vast majority of current jobs pointless or economically inefficient if done by human hands (I think the arts and certain forms of fine manual labour may be the sole survivors of this). A global, decentralized economy is a truly hyper-competitive one. Short of absolute denial and isolation it's effects will vastly shake up and shake out any inefficiencies. The effects are further reaching; I think most of us will eventually have to face stark choices about what we want to become (specifically how we will incorporate AI and the latest technologies into ourselves) or how we will have to adapt our lifestyles and mentalities to fit into the consequences of this changing world; suffice to say we will probably need to accept our increasing irrelevance in multiple fields regardless of current skills (the doctors of today will become the coal miners of tomorrow). ... In a fully automated society were humans have nothing but 100 leisuretime; what is the point of jobs or money? How are resources allocated and consumed? How do transactions occur and are settled? What path do humans pursue individually and as collectives?","其实，社会的自动化程度不断增加已经在过去100年里呈指数增长地产生了影响。 我非常相信分布式账本技术、人工智能和3D打印技术的进步最终将使绝大多数现有的工作变得毫无意义或者从经济上讲效率低下，如果是由人类来完成的话（我认为艺术和某些形式的精细手工劳动可能是这一趋势的唯一幸存者）。 全球化的去中心化经济是一个真正超级竞争的经济体系。除了绝对的拒绝和孤立，其影响将极大地震动和淘汰任何低效率。 这些影响还影响广泛；我认为我们大多数人最终将不得不面对严峻的选择，关于我们想成为什么样的人（具体来说，我们将如何将人工智能和最新技术融入自己）或者我们将不得不如何调整自己的生活方式和心态来适应这个不断变化的世界所带来的后果；可以说，我们可能需要接受自己在多个领域的日益无关紧要，无论当前技能如何（今天的医生将成为明天的煤矿工人）。 在一个完全自动化的社会里，人类除了拥有100%的休闲时间外，工作或金钱还有什么意义呢？资源如何分配和消耗？交易如何进行和解决？人类个体和集体将走向何方？",1 4845,dnlk10o,"The problem is the FPS Engine is the delivery mechanism of the RPG Raid, and this is the First raid in their 2.0 Engine (which is derived from their Halo Engine). So they are limited in mechanics based on what their engine can allow the characters to interact with in the world. Secondarily, bungie has a design barrier. Each raid has to have at least 1 new mechanic that is FAIR. If they just wanted it to be hard, they can just make the raid mechanic to solve an 8 bit encrypted cypher (by the way, that was an actual Destiny puzzle, but it wasn't in the raid, it was a side mission for a gun) And that mechanic is tutorialized throughout the entirety of that main game's campaign. part of the reason why VoG was groundbreaking was because people felt, platforming, time travel portal, stealth and relic holding were all new. With respect to 'new' mechanics, this made VoG seem much better than the rest of the raids. The other raids only had one or two COMPLETELY new things: Crota only had Swords and timers, King's Fall had Orbs-Dunks, Wrath had orb tosses and Cannons, and Leviathan has Coordinated Opposites (spoiler, the main mechanic technically isn't the dunking orbs) and pushpull physics. You can't introduce too many concepts at once per campaign or expansion, because it makes it WAY too obvious what the raid will be about. In Taken King - bungie IMO did way too much 'orb and dunk' in the main game, when it came to the raid, people were expecting it and had no issues with the mechanical aspect of executing it. The saving grace in that raid was that the coordination effort was still tough and hard to figure out, so the raid didn't end up being 'too easy'. (Minor Current raid spoiler) One of the new mechanics they have in this raid is a physics PULL segment. The way they tutorialized this is that there are a dozen places in D1 and in D2 where they PUSHED, and in D2 they even allowed being LIFTED by an enemy, and in the raid they have a place where they EXPLICITLY PUSHED repeatedly. So you can get used to it. Then at the final encounter they applied a pull for the first time in both games. So, Bungie's walking a fine line. DLC1 for D2 could feature something like... (making some bullshit up) ""enemies move only when you aren't looking at them (Doctor Who/Mario Boo-mechanic)"" They would have to first build the engine to allow for Enemy AI that can do that (they don't have it currently) so it'd be a new custom enemy. And then they'd have to figure out a creative way to hint at it in the main game, without giving away the secret for the raid, so people couldn't claim it was an UNFAIR mechanic. it's not easy but it's also not impossible.","The problem is the FPS Engine is the delivery mechanism of the RPG Raid, and this is the First raid in their 2.0 Engine (which is derived from their Halo Engine). So they are limited in mechanics based on what their engine can allow the characters to interact with in the world. Secondarily, bungie has a design barrier. Each raid has to have at least 1 new mechanic that is FAIR. If they just wanted it to be hard, they can just make the raid mechanic to solve an 8 bit encrypted cypher (by the way, that was an actual Destiny puzzle, but it wasn't in the raid, it was a side mission for a gun) And that mechanic is tutorialized throughout the entirety of that main game's campaign. part of the reason why VoG was groundbreaking was because people felt, platforming, time travel portal, stealth and relic holding were all new. With respect to 'new' mechanics, this made VoG seem much better than the rest of the raids. The other raids only had one or two COMPLETELY new things: Crota only had Swords and timers, King's Fall had Orbs-Dunks, Wrath had orb tosses and Cannons, and Leviathan has Coordinated Opposites (spoiler, the main mechanic technically isn't the dunking orbs) and pushpull physics. You can't introduce too many concepts at once per campaign or expansion, because it makes it WAY too obvious what the raid will be about. In Taken King - bungie IMO did way too much 'orb and dunk' in the main game, when it came to the raid, people were expecting it and had no issues with the mechanical aspect of executing it. The saving grace in that raid was that the coordination effort was still tough and hard to figure out, so the raid didn't end up being 'too easy'. (Minor Current raid spoiler) One of the new mechanics they have in this raid is a physics PULL segment. The way they tutorialized this is that there are a dozen places in D1 and in D2 where they PUSHED, and in D2 they even allowed being LIFTED by an enemy, and in the raid they have a place where they EXPLICITLY PUSHED repeatedly. So you can get used to it. Then at the final encounter they applied a pull for the first time in both games. So, Bungie's walking a fine line. DLC1 for D2 could feature something like... (making some bullshit up) ""enemies move only when you aren't looking at them (Doctor WhoMario Boo-mechanic)"" They would have to first build the engine to allow for Enemy AI that can do that (they don't have it currently) so it'd be a new custom enemy. And then they'd have to figure out a creative way to hint at it in the main game, without giving away the secret for the raid, so people couldn't claim it was an UNFAIR mechanic. it's not easy but it's also not impossible.","问题是FPS引擎是RPG突袭的交付机制，这是他们2.0引擎中的第一个突袭（源自他们的《光晕》引擎）。即，他们在机制上受到引擎能够让角色与世界互动的限制。 其次，Bungie有一个设计障碍。每个突袭都必须至少有一个公平的新机制。如果他们只是想让它变得困难，他们可以让突袭机制解密一个8位加密密码（顺便说一句，那是《天命》中的一个真实谜题，但不是在突袭中，而是为了获得一把枪的支线任务）。这一机制在整个主游戏的战役中进行了指导。《远古之境》之所以具有开创性，部分原因是因为人们认为跳台、时光传送门、隐身和遗物保护全都是新的。就新机制而言，《远古之境》似乎比其他突袭要好得多。其他突袭只有一个或两个全新的东西：Crota只有剑和定时器，King's Fall有宝珠扣篮，Wrath有宝珠投掷和大炮，Leviathan有协调对立方面（剧透，主要机制在技术上并不是扣篮宝珠），还有推拉物理。你不能一次在每个战役或扩展包中引入太多概念，因为这让突袭的主题变得太明显了。在王者之灾扩展包中，据我认为，Bungie在主游戏中过度使用了“宝珠扣篮”，当谈及突袭时，人们已经预料到了，并且对执行机制没有任何问题。那次突袭的救命之道在于，协调努力仍然艰难和难以理解，所以突袭最终并不会变得“太容易”。 （轻微的当前突袭剧透）他们在这个突袭中的一个新机制是物理上的拉力段。他们的指导方式是在《天命》1和《天命2》中有十几个他们推动的地方，而在《天命2》中甚至允许被敌人抬起，而在突袭中他们有了一个重复推动的地方。所以你会习惯。然后在最终交战时，他们首次在两个游戏中应用了拉力。 所以，Bungie正走一条细线。《天命2》的DLC1可能包括类似的东西...（编造一些胡说八道）“只有当你不看它们时敌人才移动（《神秘博士》/《马里奥》小鬼机制）”他们必须首先建立引擎，使敌人的人工智能可以这样做（他们目前没有）。这将是一个全新的定制敌人。然后他们必须想出一种创造性的方法，在主游戏中暗示它，而不泄露突袭的秘密，这样人们就不能说它是一个不公平的机制。这并不容易，但也并非不可能。",0 2211,dnmg39x,"This would be nice. I just wish there was more support for Minion builds. better/more aggressive AI, more interaction for animate guardian, the ability to directly tell a unit to attack somewhere, rather than just attacking with another skill and they go over there. One thing D3 did right with the necro is allow you to send your skeletons to attack, which the witch doctor cant do and afaik no skill can do in this game. Means you have a lot more direct control over them rather than having to run past things until your dudes leash to you and blindly see something to attack","This would be nice. I just wish there was more support for Minion builds. bettermore aggressive AI, more interaction for animate guardian, the ability to directly tell a unit to attack somewhere, rather than just attacking with another skill and they go over there. One thing D3 did right with the necro is allow you to send your skeletons to attack, which the witch doctor cant do and afaik no skill can do in this game. Means you have a lot more direct control over them rather than having to run past things until your dudes leash to you and blindly see something to attack",这样就太棒了。我只是希望有更多的支持给迷你人物建造。AI更好/更积极，给予骷髅守卫更多的互动，直接命令单位去某个地方攻击，而不只是用其他技能攻击然后他们过去。《暗黑破坏神3》做对了一个事情，就是允许你发送你的骷髅去攻击，而巫医不行，据我所知在这个游戏里也没有技能能做到。这意味着你对它们有更多的直接控制，而不是必须跑过去直到你的队友拴紧你然后盲目地去攻击某东西。,0 2939,dnno4lh,I'm on TRT at 170mg a week and have thought about a blast but my doctor doesn't believe in prescribing AI. Is it possible to do a blast without needing AI?,I'm on TRT at 170mg a week and have thought about a blast but my doctor doesn't believe in prescribing AI. Is it possible to do a blast without needing AI?,我每周进行TRT治疗，剂量是170毫克，考虑要进行增强疗程，但我的医生不相信开AI药物。不用AI药物能进行增强疗程吗？,0 1193,dno73t2,"My 1st cycle I did a 2week pct using clomid and nolva. I wanted to kill my self so I never touched either again. As for AI, I didn't feel their was a need for it doing only 250/mg a week. I'm going to ask my doctor on tuesday if he will give me a prescription for hgh. I don't know if he will...but he's pretty cool he gave me a prescription for test when I got my bloods checked...even though I was in the high range. I told him I had used steroids in the past and wanted to get them cheaper he laughed and said sure and printed it out.","My 1st cycle I did a 2week pct using clomid and nolva. I wanted to kill my self so I never touched either again. As for AI, I didn't feel their was a need for it doing only 250mg a week. I'm going to ask my doctor on tuesday if he will give me a prescription for hgh. I don't know if he will...but he's pretty cool he gave me a prescription for test when I got my bloods checked...even though I was in the high range. I told him I had used steroids in the past and wanted to get them cheaper he laughed and said sure and printed it out.",我第一次用药的时候，做了两周的PCT，用的是克罗米芬和诺瓦。我当时想自杀，所以再也不碰它们了。至于AI，我觉得每周只用250毫克不需要。星期二我会问医生是否给我开人生育素的处方。我不知道他会不会……不过他人挺好的，我查血的时候，他给我开了睾酮的处方，即使我已经属于高水平了。我告诉他我过去用过类固醇，想便宜些，他笑着说可以，然后开出了处方。,0 2909,dnpuz1c,"I can see that there will always be thoughts of suing when human emotions are involved. But i dont see folks winning cases against AI having consented to its care, its different to real people where sometimes the doctor was really at fault, Once people catch on then all suing will stop within a few years. ","I can see that there will always be thoughts of suing when human emotions are involved. But i dont see folks winning cases against AI having consented to its care, its different to real people where sometimes the doctor was really at fault, Once people catch on then all suing will stop within a few years.",我可以理解，涉及人类情感时总会有起诉的想法。但我觉得人们没法赢AI的案子，因为他们已经同意接受AI的照顾。这跟真正的人不一样，有时候医生真的有错。一旦人们明白了这一点，几年内所有的起诉都会停止。,1 4500,dnpwbad,"The best aim would not to replace doctors but to enhance their abilities and catch missed information. So, AI would reduce errors. I don't trust those that want to replace clinical staff, and I bet they want to. But I see the same with self driving features-- I don't want a self driving Google car. I want enhanced autopilot functions, e.g. Antilock brakes, accident avoidance features, etc., but I want my hands and decision making on the wheel.","The best aim would not to replace doctors but to enhance their abilities and catch missed information. So, AI would reduce errors. I don't trust those that want to replace clinical staff, and I bet they want to. But I see the same with self driving features-- I don't want a self driving Google car. I want enhanced autopilot functions, e.g. Antilock brakes, accident avoidance features, etc., but I want my hands and decision making on the wheel.",最好的目标不是取代医生，而是增强他们的能力并捕捉遗漏的信息。所以，人工智能会减少错误。我不相信那些想要取代临床人员的人，我敢打赌他们是想这么做的。但我对自动驾驶功能也持相同态度--我不想要一个谷歌自动驾驶车。我希望增强的自动驾驶功能，比如防抱死制动系统，事故避免功能等，但我想要自己掌握方向盘。,1 858,do2ibnp,"I think the audience is supposed wonder if she's a real person or not. I think the replicants are supposed to raise that question too, but the whole thing, starting from the opening text, is pointing to them being people. I think the incorporeal AI poses the same question without suggesting an answer as strongly. Does she have any agency regarding her actions and opinions or does she simply say what she thinks her owner wants to hear? Would the latter make her less of a person? I think it's important to note that she literally can't move around on her own; she's tethered to a hologram projector that can be moved, but only by someone else. There are some pretty clear parallels to the doctor in Star Trek Voyager, but in that series it's made clear that the doctor is a person.","I think the audience is supposed wonder if she's a real person or not. I think the replicants are supposed to raise that question too, but the whole thing, starting from the opening text, is pointing to them being people. I think the incorporeal AI poses the same question without suggesting an answer as strongly. Does she have any agency regarding her actions and opinions or does she simply say what she thinks her owner wants to hear? Would the latter make her less of a person? I think it's important to note that she literally can't move around on her own; she's tethered to a hologram projector that can be moved, but only by someone else. There are some pretty clear parallels to the doctor in Star Trek Voyager, but in that series it's made clear that the doctor is a person.","我觉得观众应该在想她是不是个真正的人。我觉得复制人也应该引起这个问题，但整个故事，从开头的文字开始，都在暗示他们是人。我觉得那个无体的AI也提出了同样的问题，但没有强烈暗示答案。她的行动和想法是否有自主权，还是她只是说她主人想听的话？后者会不会让她不像个人？我觉得重要的是要注意她真的无法自己移动；她只能依附在能被移动的全息投影仪上，而且只能被别人移动。 这跟《星际迷航：航海家号》里的医生有一些明显的相似之处，但在那个系列里明确表示医生是一个人。",0 849,do2suyq,"Silly to think robot/automation/AI will slow down if you just lower the price you would pay a worker. Its too late for that talk. I have spent my career destroying jobs with this stuff and we are working our way up the food chain fast. Doctors = Watson Lawyers = Ross Truckers/Taxi = Driverless cars Think you safe in the trades, more competition for the same work.","Silly to think robotautomationAI will slow down if you just lower the price you would pay a worker. Its too late for that talk. I have spent my career destroying jobs with this stuff and we are working our way up the food chain fast. Doctors Watson Lawyers Ross TruckersTaxi Driverless cars Think you safe in the trades, more competition for the same work.",傻傻地认为只要降低工人的工资，机器人/自动化/人工智能就会放慢速度。现在说这些已经太晚了。我花了一辈子的时间用这些东西摧毁工作，而且我们迅速地在食物链上向上攀升。医生=沃森，律师=罗斯，卡车司机/出租车司机=无人驾驶汽车。以为在行业中很安全，其实是面对同样工作的更多竞争。,1 1660,do4dnbf,"Some of those are broader scifi tropes that both are drawing on. For example, a human avatar for the ship's AI has precedent in the *Doctor Who* episode ""The Doctor's Wife"", where the TARDIS has a humanoid body, and in *Andromeda*, where the ship's AI has a humanoid body, Rommie, the entire show.","Some of those are broader scifi tropes that both are drawing on. For example, a human avatar for the ship's AI has precedent in the Doctor Who episode ""The Doctor's Wife"", where the TARDIS has a humanoid body, and in Andromeda, where the ship's AI has a humanoid body, Rommie, the entire show.","有些是更广泛的科幻类型，都在借鉴一些东西。比如说，为飞船AI设计一个人类化的化身，在 *Doctor Who* 中的 ""The Doctor's Wife"" 那一集里就有过，那里TARDIS有一个人类的身体，还有 *Andromeda* 里，飞船的AI也有一个人类的身体，Rommie, 整个节目都是。",0 3739,do7ujhs,"###Liquid Funk *created by: Erikas Bla?ko* 475 tracks, 43 hr 12 min, 397 followers **Top genres:** liquid funk, drum and bass, neurofunk, jungle, jump up **Well known artists:** [Moby](https://open.spotify.com/artist/3OsRAKCvk37zwYcnzRf5XF), [Netsky](https://open.spotify.com/artist/5TgQ66WuWkoQ2xYxaSTnVP), [Four Tet](https://open.spotify.com/artist/7Eu1txygG6nJttLHbZdQOh), [Sigma](https://open.spotify.com/artist/01pKrlgPJhm5dB4lneYAqS), [Sub Focus](https://open.spotify.com/artist/0QaSiI5TLA4N7mcsdxShDO) **Least known artists:** [Mr. Zodiac](https://open.spotify.com/artist/0hZbMz50EXpix397soB0cd), [Alex Reece and Wax Doctor](https://open.spotify.com/artist/0onGzR0XIhgpgP5UYcBKT8), [Simon V feat. Shoot The Kitten](https://open.spotify.com/artist/1IZjTJVQiUgc2PaPACVEx1), [Lenzman feat. Riya](https://open.spotify.com/artist/5hkN9uuOWa5c4cHyIFHe2o), [BCee feat. Philippa Hanna](https://open.spotify.com/artist/2xHyVyYfKZa0fpvF4wnMFV) **Similar artists to explore (not in playlist):** [Brookes Brothers](https://open.spotify.com/artist/2FPeVdIIXD9Wb9Kbn1Hyz6), [Electrosoul System](https://open.spotify.com/artist/0tSNYelLMRA52oDWmw5eU3), [Danny Byrd](https://open.spotify.com/artist/7iczgrgAFILjQVGzLsUzbG), [Command Strange](https://open.spotify.com/artist/6ZslPRiDjYFasSPscHF7v2), [Bungle](https://open.spotify.com/artist/0dpCZN6OOu60LZXZpNGsKj), [Villem](https://open.spotify.com/artist/3mupfXo95OeusJKhAJVCUf), [Artificial Intelligence](https://open.spotify.com/artist/3dfQn1ijJNptfREJB2rRd2), [Ed:it](https://open.spotify.com/artist/66KRvTzYwJCAY0YkkGGKPu), [Chase & Status](https://open.spotify.com/artist/3jNkaOXasoc7RsxdchvEVq), [Syncopix](https://open.spotify.com/artist/2U2N2ha10I2YsHNGXXNxxO) [Playlist analysis](https://i.imgur.com/G27Vn9g.png) --- [^^info](https://www.reddit.com/r/spotify_transcriber/wiki/)","Liquid Funk created by: Erikas Blako 475 tracks, 43 hr 12 min, 397 followers Top genres: liquid funk, drum and bass, neurofunk, jungle, jump up Well known artists: Moby(https:open.spotify.comartist3OsRAKCvk37zwYcnzRf5XF), Netsky(https:open.spotify.comartist5TgQ66WuWkoQ2xYxaSTnVP), Four Tet(https:open.spotify.comartist7Eu1txygG6nJttLHbZdQOh), Sigma(https:open.spotify.comartist01pKrlgPJhm5dB4lneYAqS), Sub Focus(https:open.spotify.comartist0QaSiI5TLA4N7mcsdxShDO) Least known artists: Mr. Zodiac(https:open.spotify.comartist0hZbMz50EXpix397soB0cd), Alex Reece and Wax Doctor(https:open.spotify.comartist0onGzR0XIhgpgP5UYcBKT8), Simon V feat. Shoot The Kitten(https:open.spotify.comartist1IZjTJVQiUgc2PaPACVEx1), Lenzman feat. Riya(https:open.spotify.comartist5hkN9uuOWa5c4cHyIFHe2o), BCee feat. Philippa Hanna(https:open.spotify.comartist2xHyVyYfKZa0fpvF4wnMFV) Similar artists to explore (not in playlist): Brookes Brothers(https:open.spotify.comartist2FPeVdIIXD9Wb9Kbn1Hyz6), Electrosoul System(https:open.spotify.comartist0tSNYelLMRA52oDWmw5eU3), Danny Byrd(https:open.spotify.comartist7iczgrgAFILjQVGzLsUzbG), Command Strange(https:open.spotify.comartist6ZslPRiDjYFasSPscHF7v2), Bungle(https:open.spotify.comartist0dpCZN6OOu60LZXZpNGsKj), Villem(https:open.spotify.comartist3mupfXo95OeusJKhAJVCUf), Artificial Intelligence(https:open.spotify.comartist3dfQn1ijJNptfREJB2rRd2), Ed:it(https:open.spotify.comartist66KRvTzYwJCAY0YkkGGKPu), Chase amp; Status(https:open.spotify.comartist3jNkaOXasoc7RsxdchvEVq), Syncopix(https:open.spotify.comartist2U2N2ha10I2YsHNGXXNxxO) Playlist analysis(https:i.imgur.comG27Vn9g.png) --- info(https:www.reddit.comrspotifytranscriberwiki)","Liquid Funk 这是一个由Erikas Bla?ko创建的音乐播放列表，包括475首歌曲，时长43小时12分钟，有397名关注者。 **最热门的流派:** 液体节奏、鼓和贝斯、神经节奏、丛林音乐、跳动音乐 **知名艺术家:** [Moby](https://open.spotify.com/artist/3OsRAKCvk37zwYcnzRf5XF), [Netsky](https://open.spotify.com/artist/5TgQ66WuWkoQ2xYxaSTnVP), [Four Tet](https://open.spotify.com/artist/7Eu1txygG6nJttLHbZdQOh), [Sigma](https://open.spotify.com/artist/01pKrlgPJhm5dB4lneYAqS), [Sub Focus](https://open.spotify.com/artist/0QaSiI5TLA4N7mcsdxShDO) **较不知名的艺术家:** [Mr. Zodiac](https://open.spotify.com/artist/0hZbMz50EXpix397soB0cd), [Alex Reece and Wax Doctor](https://open.spotify.com/artist/0onGzR0XIhgpgP5UYcBKT8), [Simon V feat. Shoot The Kitten](https://open.spotify.com/artist/1IZjTJVQiUgc2PaPACVEx1), [Lenzman feat. Riya](https://open.spotify.com/artist/5hkN9uuOWa5c4cHyIFHe2o), [BCee feat. Philippa Hanna](https://open.spotify.com/artist/2xHyVyYfKZa0fpvF4wnMFV) **其他类似的艺术家（不在播放列表中）:** [Brookes Brothers](https://open.spotify.com/artist/2FPeVdIIXD9Wb9Kbn1Hyz6), [Electrosoul System](https://open.spotify.com/artist/0tSNYelLMRA52oDWmw5eU3), [Danny Byrd](https://open.spotify.com/artist/7iczgrgAFILjQVGzLsUzbG), [Command Strange](https://open.spotify.com/artist/6ZslPRiDjYFasSPscHF7v2), [Bungle](https://open.spotify.com/artist/0dpCZN6OOu60LZXZpNGsKj), [Villem](https://open.spotify.com/artist/3mupfXo95OeusJKhAJVCUf), [Artificial Intelligence](https://open.spotify.com/artist/3dfQn1ijJNptfREJB2rRd2), [Ed:it](https://open.spotify.com/artist/66KRvTzYwJCAY0YkkGGKPu), [Chase & Status](https://open.spotify.com/artist/3jNkaOXasoc7RsxdchvEVq), [Syncopix](https://open.spotify.com/artist/2U2N2ha10I2YsHNGXXNxxO) [播放列表分析](https://i.imgur.com/G27Vn9g.png) --- [^^info](https://www.reddit.com/r/spotify_transcriber/wiki/)",0 2227,doad3mb,"Underpaid, overworked heroes. Doctors will be one of the first to go when AI starts replacing major jobs, nurses are here to stay since they do such varied work that can't be easily copied. ","Underpaid, overworked heroes. Doctors will be one of the first to go when AI starts replacing major jobs, nurses are here to stay since they do such varied work that can't be easily copied.",被低估、被过度工作的英雄们。当人工智能开始取代主要工作时，医生将是首批下岗的人，而护士则会留下来，因为他们做的工作是如此丰富多样，很难被轻易复制。,1 1532,doaenwz,"Oh you're on TRT, didn't see that. I know peope on TRT who inject 100mg of test a week and they take 1mg of adex per week. I recommend you stay on ai because but just lower the tosage, you're taking 0.25mg eod which is the same as those taking 100mg of test. Try cutting your ai dosage in half and see how you feel, if it doesn't work you can either go up again or you can drop it and see how you feel. But if you are on TRT can't you talk to your doctor about this issue?","Oh you're on TRT, didn't see that. I know peope on TRT who inject 100mg of test a week and they take 1mg of adex per week. I recommend you stay on ai because but just lower the tosage, you're taking 0.25mg eod which is the same as those taking 100mg of test. Try cutting your ai dosage in half and see how you feel, if it doesn't work you can either go up again or you can drop it and see how you feel. But if you are on TRT can't you talk to your doctor about this issue?","哦，原来你在进行TRT治疗啊，我没注意到。我认识一些进行TRT治疗的人，他们每周注射100毫克的睾酮，再每周服用1毫克的阿那曲唑。我建议你继续使用阿那曲唑，但是可以适当降低剂量，你现在每隔一天服用0.25毫克，就跟那些注射100毫克睾酮的人一样。 试着把阿那曲唑的剂量减半，看看效果如何。如果没效果，你可以再适当增加剂量，或者停止使用，看看感觉如何。但如果你在进行TRT治疗，难道不能跟医生商量这个问题吗？",0 3556,docwpua,"> Why does a hologram have a personality? How does he get married? How does he invent things? Do they find a spacefaring Gepetto that turns him into a real boy? The Doctor has an extremely advanced AI as a result of his creator, Dr. Zimmerman, being absurdly talented and dedicated. It turns out that his ability to learn, in combination with the behavioral programming intended for things like bedside manner, and being forced to leave him running constantly for seven years, gave him enough experience to develop a personality. When he didn't have patients he started to develop hobbies to occupy his time. As he saw certain crewmembers more often he developed a friendship with them. They even found a device called a mobile emitter that lets him leave sickbay and wander the ship.","gt; Why does a hologram have a personality? How does he get married? How does he invent things? Do they find a spacefaring Gepetto that turns him into a real boy? The Doctor has an extremely advanced AI as a result of his creator, Dr. Zimmerman, being absurdly talented and dedicated. It turns out that his ability to learn, in combination with the behavioral programming intended for things like bedside manner, and being forced to leave him running constantly for seven years, gave him enough experience to develop a personality. When he didn't have patients he started to develop hobbies to occupy his time. As he saw certain crewmembers more often he developed a friendship with them. They even found a device called a mobile emitter that lets him leave sickbay and wander the ship.",">为什么全息影像有个性？他怎么结婚的？他怎么发明东西的？难道他们找到了一个太空航行的格佩托，把他变成了真正的人？ 医生具有极其先进的人工智能，这是因为他的创造者兹默曼博士极其有天赋和专注。事实证明，他学习能力强，再加上原本用于病床上交流的行为编程，再加上不得不让他不停地运行七年，这些让他有了足够的经验来发展个性。当他没有病人时，他开始培养爱好以打发时间。随着他经常见到某些船员，他和他们发展了友谊。他们甚至找到了一个叫做移动发射器的设备，让他能离开病房，在飞船上漫游。",0 2373,doik3tc,"It's fair to say we didn't get a ton of background on ME1 mercs, but that's also true of the outlaws. With outlaws we're told they acted uncivilized and got kicked off the Nexus. With mercs we're told that they chose to act uncivilized and were either driven out of civilization for law enforcement or chose to leave. The key difference is that in Andromeda we're given a singular leader of the outlaws. I'd argue however ME1 is more interesting in providing multiple mercenary leaders: random leaders in bases, Cerberus, Saleon, without a singular leader. It's definitely more fitting in a massive and epic sci fi universe. The most important point though is that you're wholly wrong about the main villains. The Kett are incredibly unoriginal as far as sci fi villains come. They have an empire and want to conquer and assimilate their enemies. See everything from the cybermen in doctor Who to the Reapers in the trilogy. Saren is a conflicted individual with interesting motivations. He's a racist and Turian supremacist, but he also genuinely believes he's doing the right thing. And he has something resembling a turn of heart at the end. The Archon is given no philosophical role beyond Kett supremacy and an obsession with Remnant, he's incredibly boring. The Reapers are on a whole different level. They're presented as villains above who we fight in the game, given a cthulu treatment, and made genuinely imposing. No interaction with the Kett was ever as interesting as the first conversation with Sovereign. To even compare the two is absurd. The Geth are obviously made more interesting in later games, but even in ME1 they're given more depth than the Kett really are. In part their role is to play foil to Tali, and illustrate the danger of AI. While this may seem exactly like what the Kett are to the Angarans, they also act to introduce malicious AI before the Reaper reveal. That introductory role illustrates their being a stepping stone to the real villain, while the Kett are both the early and late game villain. You said we were comparing ME1 with Andromeda, and I think it's reasonable to include the whole game. If Andromeda failed to get DLC we shouldn't rule out ME1's having it, that's just how the world works. Either way, Batarians are like the fifth most important villain in ME1.","It's fair to say we didn't get a ton of background on ME1 mercs, but that's also true of the outlaws. With outlaws we're told they acted uncivilized and got kicked off the Nexus. With mercs we're told that they chose to act uncivilized and were either driven out of civilization for law enforcement or chose to leave. The key difference is that in Andromeda we're given a singular leader of the outlaws. I'd argue however ME1 is more interesting in providing multiple mercenary leaders: random leaders in bases, Cerberus, Saleon, without a singular leader. It's definitely more fitting in a massive and epic sci fi universe. The most important point though is that you're wholly wrong about the main villains. The Kett are incredibly unoriginal as far as sci fi villains come. They have an empire and want to conquer and assimilate their enemies. See everything from the cybermen in doctor Who to the Reapers in the trilogy. Saren is a conflicted individual with interesting motivations. He's a racist and Turian supremacist, but he also genuinely believes he's doing the right thing. And he has something resembling a turn of heart at the end. The Archon is given no philosophical role beyond Kett supremacy and an obsession with Remnant, he's incredibly boring. The Reapers are on a whole different level. They're presented as villains above who we fight in the game, given a cthulu treatment, and made genuinely imposing. No interaction with the Kett was ever as interesting as the first conversation with Sovereign. To even compare the two is absurd. The Geth are obviously made more interesting in later games, but even in ME1 they're given more depth than the Kett really are. In part their role is to play foil to Tali, and illustrate the danger of AI. While this may seem exactly like what the Kett are to the Angarans, they also act to introduce malicious AI before the Reaper reveal. That introductory role illustrates their being a stepping stone to the real villain, while the Kett are both the early and late game villain. You said we were comparing ME1 with Andromeda, and I think it's reasonable to include the whole game. If Andromeda failed to get DLC we shouldn't rule out ME1's having it, that's just how the world works. Either way, Batarians are like the fifth most important villain in ME1.","可以这样理解，我们在Mass Effect 1（ME1）游戏中对于私人军队的背景了解并不多，但在Andromeda游戏中对于不法分子的情况也是一样的。对于不法分子，我们被告知他们表现得不文明，并被逐出了联盟。而对于私人军队，我们被告知他们选择了不文明的行为，要么被驱逐出文明社会，要么选择离开。关键区别是，在Andromeda游戏中我们知道了不法分子有一个首领，而在ME1游戏中，我们看到了多个私人军队的领袖：在基地里随机的领导者，还有Cerberus、Saleon，而没有一个独一无二的领袖。这样在一个宏大而史诗般的科幻宇宙中更合适。 最重要的一点是，你对于主要反派的观点是完全错误的。Kett作为科幻反派来说非常缺乏原创性。他们有一个帝国，想要征服和同化他们的敌人。从Doctor Who里的赛博人到三部曲里的收割者，这样的形象都是老生常谈的。而Saren则是一个内心冲突的人，动机非常有趣。他是一个种族主义者和土星人至上主义者，但他也真诚地认为自己在做正确的事情。并且在最后有一点转变。而Archon除了对Kett至上主义和对遗物的痴迷之外，没有哲学层面的角色，他非常无聊。 收割者则完全不同。他们被呈现为游戏中我们要对抗的反派，受到了克苏鲁蒂 treatment的待遇，变得非常威胁。和Kett的交互从来没有像和Sovereign进行的第一次对话那样有趣。甚至把这两者进行比较本身就是荒谬的。 Geth在后续的游戏中显然变得更有趣了，但即使在ME1中，他们比Kett有更多的深度。部分原因是他们的作用是为了衬托塔利，并展示人工智能的危险性。虽然这看起来和Kett对安加兰人的作用很相似，但同时也为收割者的揭露引入了恶意的人工智能。他们的引入作用说明了他们是真正反派的垫脚石，而Kett既是游戏早期又是晚期的反派。 你说我们在比较ME1和Andromeda，我认为包括整个游戏是合理的。如果Andromeda游戏没有添加DLC，我们也不应该排除ME1游戏可能添加DLC的可能性，这就是现实的规则。无论如何，Batarians在ME1游戏中才是第五重要的反派。",0 336,dokq31u,"The reason my neurologist played a pivotal role in getting Cannibus medically approved in my state was, in her words: ""If any of my pain management patients can reduce their intake of opioids by even one pill a day, I will consider it a compete success. A natural solution will always be preferable to an artificial one."" I'm extremely lucky to have found such a compassionate & experienced Doctor. I wish everyone else out there suffering from Chronic Pain Conditions the best in finding a Doc who 1. Believes you, 2. Has the intelligence & empathy to work ceaselessly until they find a solution that works best for you specifically, and always 3. A less painful tomorrow. ","The reason my neurologist played a pivotal role in getting Cannibus medically approved in my state was, in her words: ""If any of my pain management patients can reduce their intake of opioids by even one pill a day, I will consider it a compete success. A natural solution will always be preferable to an artificial one."" I'm extremely lucky to have found such a compassionate amp; experienced Doctor. I wish everyone else out there suffering from Chronic Pain Conditions the best in finding a Doc who 1. Believes you, 2. Has the intelligence amp; empathy to work ceaselessly until they find a solution that works best for you specifically, and always 3. A less painful tomorrow.","我的神经学家在医疗大麻在我所在的州获得批准方面发挥了关键作用的原因是，她说： “如果我的任何疼痛管理患者能够每天减少一片鸦片类药物的摄入，我将认为这是一个完美的成功。天然的解决方案总是比人工的更可取。” 我非常幸运能够找到这样一位富有同情心和经验丰富的医生。我希望其他患有慢性疼痛症状的人也能找到一位医生：第一，相信你；第二，具有足够的智慧和同情心，不懈努力地为你找到最适合你的解决方案；并且永远希望第三，明天少一些痛苦。",0 559,donqsim,Maybe. My try doctor gave me an AI. He could be feeling the effects of that,Maybe. My try doctor gave me an AI. He could be feeling the effects of that,可能吧。我的尝试医生给了我一种人工智能。它可能会感受到那种效果。,0 733,dot4riy,"I believe Artificial Intelligence can revolutionalize America's healthcare. Currently, the medical cost is skyrocketing and the population of USA is ageing. AI can automize the routine tasks and reduce the time spent by doctors per patient. Thus a single doctor can serve more patients per unit of time and the patients could be charged lower. Startup called Justdoc ( https://justdoc.com/ ) has been in news recently for their idea to include AI in providing online medical consulting. I am pretty sure if the idea works out, it would be a big step","I believe Artificial Intelligence can revolutionalize America's healthcare. Currently, the medical cost is skyrocketing and the population of USA is ageing. AI can automize the routine tasks and reduce the time spent by doctors per patient. Thus a single doctor can serve more patients per unit of time and the patients could be charged lower. Startup called Justdoc ( https:justdoc.com ) has been in news recently for their idea to include AI in providing online medical consulting. I am pretty sure if the idea works out, it would be a big step",我相信人工智能可以彻底改革美国的医疗保健。目前，医疗费用节节上涨，美国的人口也在老龄化。人工智能可以自动化常规任务，减少医生为每位患者所花费的时间。因此，一名医生在单位时间内可以为更多患者提供服务，患者可能会被收取更低的费用。最近有一个名为Justdoc的初创公司在新闻中，因为他们计划把人工智能应用到在线医疗咨询中。我十分确信，如果这个想法成功，将是一大步。,1 164,dot6ehm,"I was coincidentally talking about this with someone else and I'll paraphrase my response to her here. AI is coming, there's no doubt about it. I admit a computer can analyse a picture of a tumour in a split second and is *probably* going to be better than a human on a slide-only basis, but I find it hard to imagine it'll know what questions may need to be asked to the requesting doctor, what information the surgeon actually wants in the bottom line diagnosis, and how to integrate all the relevant data (be it patient gender, age, presenting history, blood results, microbiology, radiology, surgical appearance, and so on). Furthermore, there're truly equivocal lesions regardless of all that added background information; no amount of AI deep learning is going to remove the grey zone. Sometimes you simply can't tell if a lesion is going to behave in a benign or malignant fashion, or even what the definitive diagnosis is, despite sending it to experts in the field. What's AI to do in this situation? If it gives a definite diagnosis, it'll mislead the clinician. If it gives an equivocal diagnosis, it adds nothing to a human pathologist, and the clinician will likely want to speak with someone about such diagnoses anyway. What I can imagine AI being very good at, and very reliable at, is interpretation of immunohistochemistry. Once appropriate calibration has been performed (i.e. such that only lesional cells are taken into account), a computer is going to be way better than a human in working out say, ki67, or quantifying HER2. I have no doubt AI will play a major role in pathology in the future, but it won't be for a while yet. When the *radiologists* get worried, that's when we should prepare ourselves. I'd imagine a CXR is much more amenable to machine deep learning - being in a standard format most of the time - compared with all possible H&E combinations. Any radiologists reading this is free to disagree with me, if this is a misconception!","I was coincidentally talking about this with someone else and I'll paraphrase my response to her here. AI is coming, there's no doubt about it. I admit a computer can analyse a picture of a tumour in a split second and is probably going to be better than a human on a slide-only basis, but I find it hard to imagine it'll know what questions may need to be asked to the requesting doctor, what information the surgeon actually wants in the bottom line diagnosis, and how to integrate all the relevant data (be it patient gender, age, presenting history, blood results, microbiology, radiology, surgical appearance, and so on). Furthermore, there're truly equivocal lesions regardless of all that added background information; no amount of AI deep learning is going to remove the grey zone. Sometimes you simply can't tell if a lesion is going to behave in a benign or malignant fashion, or even what the definitive diagnosis is, despite sending it to experts in the field. What's AI to do in this situation? If it gives a definite diagnosis, it'll mislead the clinician. If it gives an equivocal diagnosis, it adds nothing to a human pathologist, and the clinician will likely want to speak with someone about such diagnoses anyway. What I can imagine AI being very good at, and very reliable at, is interpretation of immunohistochemistry. Once appropriate calibration has been performed (i.e. such that only lesional cells are taken into account), a computer is going to be way better than a human in working out say, ki67, or quantifying HER2. I have no doubt AI will play a major role in pathology in the future, but it won't be for a while yet. When the radiologists get worried, that's when we should prepare ourselves. I'd imagine a CXR is much more amenable to machine deep learning - being in a standard format most of the time - compared with all possible Hamp;E combinations. Any radiologists reading this is free to disagree with me, if this is a misconception!","我刚好和另一个人谈到这个问题，我会用我对她的回答来改述一下。 人工智能正在发展，这是毫无疑问的。我承认，电脑可以在一瞬间分析出肿瘤的图片，而且*可能*在幻灯片上比人类更擅长，但我觉得它很难知道应该询问请求检查的医生什么问题，外科医生实际上需要什么信息来做出最终诊断，以及如何整合所有相关数据(包括患者性别、年龄、病史、血液结果、微生物学、放射学、外科外观等等)。此外，即使有所有这些额外的背景信息，有些病变仍然会显示模棱两可；AI的深度学习也不可能消除这种灰色地带。有时候你就是无法确定一个病变是良性还是恶性，甚至都无法得出明确的诊断，尽管把它发送给该领域的专家。在这种情况下，AI该怎么办？如果它给出了明确的诊断，它会误导临床医生。如果它给出了模棱两可的诊断，对于人类病理学家来说并没有什么帮助，而临床医生通常也会想和某些诊断专家商量这样的诊断。 我可以想像AI非常擅长并且非常可靠地解释免疫组化。一旦进行了适当的校准(例如只考虑病变细胞)，电脑在工作出ki67或量化HER2方面会比人类表现得更好。 我毫不怀疑人工智能在未来将在病理学中发挥重要作用，但还需要一段时间。当*放射科医生*开始担心的时候，我们应该做好准备。我想，与所有可能的H&E组合相比，胸部X射线检查更适合于机器深度学习，因为大多数情况下都是标准格式。如果有放射科医生看到这个，如果我有什么误解，请随意反驳！",1 4231,dp1fty3,"I remember looking into his technology awhile ago I don't remember the details, but I definitely came to the conclusion that he was way over confident in his product Research also showed the reason he had such passion for automobile-AI in the first place, was his medical need for a self-driving car. ""His head was too far up his own ass to see the road"" doctors said ETA: He's more likable this time around, still overconfident, but a lot more palatable","I remember looking into his technology awhile ago I don't remember the details, but I definitely came to the conclusion that he was way over confident in his product Research also showed the reason he had such passion for automobile-AI in the first place, was his medical need for a self-driving car. ""His head was too far up his own ass to see the road"" doctors said ETA: He's more likable this time around, still overconfident, but a lot more palatable","我记得一段时间以前我曾经研究过他的技术 我不记得细节了，但我肯定得出结论，他对自己的产品过于自信了 研究还显示，他之所以对汽车人工智能如此热衷，是因为他自己需要进行自动驾驶汽车。 医生说：“他自以为是到了极点，看不到前方的道路”。 备注：这一次他更讨人喜欢了，虽然还是过于自信，但现在更能接受。",0 585,dp3cs3e,"> Who do you think works for clinical research companies? A relatively small fraction of the total number of doctors. Automation doesn't make jobs go away instantly. It makes the field shrink. Take AI-driven vehicles. It's early in their introduction, so they're replacing relatively few jobs. Over time that number will increase, decreasing the need for human drivers more and more. There is still a place for doctors - but that place is smaller than it used to be. Tasks that once required doctors no longer require them, because automation has rendered those tasks trivial.","gt; Who do you think works for clinical research companies? A relatively small fraction of the total number of doctors. Automation doesn't make jobs go away instantly. It makes the field shrink. Take AI-driven vehicles. It's early in their introduction, so they're replacing relatively few jobs. Over time that number will increase, decreasing the need for human drivers more and more. There is still a place for doctors - but that place is smaller than it used to be. Tasks that once required doctors no longer require them, because automation has rendered those tasks trivial.","你认为谁在临床研究公司工作？ 相对少数的医生。 自动化并不会立即让工作消失，它只会让领域变小。比如AI驱动的车辆，现在引进的还很早，所以替代的工作还相对少。随着时间的推移，这个数字会增加，减少对人力驾驶员的需求。 医生仍然有用武之地，但这个位置已经不像以前那么大了。以前需要医生的任务现在不再需要他们，因为自动化让这些任务变得微不足道。",1 3748,dp6c7yg,The manager of the Watson program at IBM once came to my undergrad to give a talk and I spoke to him briefly about this. He was pretty clear about one thing. The goal of AI isnt to replace doctors but its to help with the decision making process. ,The manager of the Watson program at IBM once came to my undergrad to give a talk and I spoke to him briefly about this. He was pretty clear about one thing. The goal of AI isnt to replace doctors but its to help with the decision making process.,IBM的沃森计划经理曾经来我们大学做演讲，我和他简短交谈过。他非常清楚一件事。人工智能的目标不是取代医生，而是帮助决策过程。,1 4836,dpbojsx,"Agreed with pretty much everything there, but I'd challenge you on the third paragraph: > Do you mean which is the ""real"" Simon? Again, the answer is simple: all of them. Each of them is a Simon, and each of them is real, so logic would dictate that all of them are ""a real Simon"". Are they really all a Simon? Since you said it yourself that each is an entirely new individual who just happens to share most of the same memories (I'm paraphrasing for emphasis). *Are* they all real? Harder question to answer since you first have to define ""real"". But the point I wanna bring up is where do you draw the line from what makes ""you"" ""real"" and what doesn't. What makes the entity ""Simon"" real, each of his versions? Obviously Simon1 from Toronto was real, that's undebatable in my context. Simon2 is where imo it gets muddy, having parts of completely other humans and bionics keeping a computer running with Simon1's memories on it. Sure it walks, it talks, but I think all it shares with Simon1 is a name, and most of his memories. He sure seems real... But what if instead of Simon2 having a body, he was just in a computer like Brandon Wan's simulation. Is he still ""real""? Yeah? What if while experimenting with Simon1's brain scan you add in some memories that he never had, and remove some he did. Is he still ""real""? Or more specifically ""a real individual""? Or is he more just a computer program that is being run and modified and shut down at will, not much different in essence than a program like your web browser? Where is the line drawn where you actually lose that ""thing"" that makes you considered ""real""? I don't consider 2017-era AI robots to be ""real"", they're just programs (impressive ones). But they think, listen, remember, come up with solutions, etc. They just don't happen to have one singular person's memories, but I'll bet if one modern AI robot *did* have one single person's memories implanted and no others, people would begin to argue it could be a ""real"" individual (almost like The Doctor in Star Trek Voyager, if you're familiar). Just saying it gets fishy as soon as you even begin to strip away that ""humanity"" or change who the original subject was. Like once you begin ""playing god"".","Agreed with pretty much everything there, but I'd challenge you on the third paragraph: gt; Do you mean which is the ""real"" Simon? Again, the answer is simple: all of them. Each of them is a Simon, and each of them is real, so logic would dictate that all of them are ""a real Simon"". Are they really all a Simon? Since you said it yourself that each is an entirely new individual who just happens to share most of the same memories (I'm paraphrasing for emphasis). Are they all real? Harder question to answer since you first have to define ""real"". But the point I wanna bring up is where do you draw the line from what makes ""you"" ""real"" and what doesn't. What makes the entity ""Simon"" real, each of his versions? Obviously Simon1 from Toronto was real, that's undebatable in my context. Simon2 is where imo it gets muddy, having parts of completely other humans and bionics keeping a computer running with Simon1's memories on it. Sure it walks, it talks, but I think all it shares with Simon1 is a name, and most of his memories. He sure seems real... But what if instead of Simon2 having a body, he was just in a computer like Brandon Wan's simulation. Is he still ""real""? Yeah? What if while experimenting with Simon1's brain scan you add in some memories that he never had, and remove some he did. Is he still ""real""? Or more specifically ""a real individual""? Or is he more just a computer program that is being run and modified and shut down at will, not much different in essence than a program like your web browser? Where is the line drawn where you actually lose that ""thing"" that makes you considered ""real""? I don't consider 2017-era AI robots to be ""real"", they're just programs (impressive ones). But they think, listen, remember, come up with solutions, etc. They just don't happen to have one singular person's memories, but I'll bet if one modern AI robot did have one single person's memories implanted and no others, people would begin to argue it could be a ""real"" individual (almost like The Doctor in Star Trek Voyager, if you're familiar). Just saying it gets fishy as soon as you even begin to strip away that ""humanity"" or change who the original subject was. Like once you begin ""playing god"".","这段对话里我基本同意你的观点，但是我对第三段想提出一点挑战： “你是说哪一个才是‘真实’的西蒙？简单来说，答案是所有的都是。每个都是西蒙，每一个都是真实的，所以逻辑上来说他们都是‘真实的西蒙’。” 那他们真的都是一个西蒙吗？因为你自己说过，每个都是一个全新的个体，只是碰巧共享大部分相同的记忆（我加了点强调的意思）。 他们真的都是真实的吗？这个问题比较难回答，因为首先你得定义“真实”。但我想说的是，你怎么区分什么是使“你”变得“真实”，什么又不是。使实体“西蒙”变得真实的是什么，每个版本都有吗？很显然，多伦多的西蒙1是真实的，这是毫无争议的。西蒙2就有些模糊地带了，在我看来，他由完全不同的人和仿生构成，能够以西蒙1的记忆运行。他有躯体，有语言表达，但我认为他和西蒙1只有名字和大部分记忆是相同的。他看起来确实很真实…… 但如果西蒙2没有实体，只是像Brandon Wan的模拟一样存在于电脑中。他还是“真实”吗？是吗？如果在实验西蒙1的大脑扫描时加入一些他从未有过的记忆，并减少一些他有的记忆。他还是“真实”吗？更具体地说，他还是一个真实的个体吗？还是更像是被随意运行、修改和关闭的计算机程序，本质上跟你的网络浏览器一样没有太大区别？ 在哪一条线上，你会丢失那个被认为是“真实”的“东西”？我不认为2017年的人工智能机器人是“真实”的，他们只是程序（确实很厉害）。但是它们思考，倾听，记忆，找到解决方案等等。他们只是不巧没有一个人的记忆，但我敢打赌，如果一个现代的人工智能机器人*真的*有一个人的记忆植入并且没有其他人的记忆，人们可能会开始争论它可能成为一个“真实”的个体（几乎像《星际旅行航海家号》中的医生一样，如果你熟悉的话）。 我只是想说，一旦你开始剥离那种“人性”或者改变原始对象是，情况就变得很麻烦，就像你开始“玩弄上帝”一样。",0 4917,dpctjma,"Havelock might have more of SI due to his rank in navy and leading position in the conspiracy. about PI, I thought if we should consider Daud, Corvo and Emily as having exceptionally high level of PI because the ability to kill/neutralize targets is something related to PI (in the book PI is described as something reminding James Bond skills, not only the ability to fix things). but then I realized that they just have the Mark. i doubt they would be able to be effective without that. who might have the exeptionally high PI is Sokolov. because the whole Empire is full with his inventions, and an invention is exactly about the ability to combine AI with PI. plus he is successful artist and holds a Royal physician post, therefore, he must have highier than usual SI. plus, he is a famous with his relations with women (including Delilah). so we must give him high MI. Sokolov might be the smartest in the world of Dishonored in sense of GI though he has problems with EI (i have his human experiments in mind).","Havelock might have more of SI due to his rank in navy and leading position in the conspiracy. about PI, I thought if we should consider Daud, Corvo and Emily as having exceptionally high level of PI because the ability to killneutralize targets is something related to PI (in the book PI is described as something reminding James Bond skills, not only the ability to fix things). but then I realized that they just have the Mark. i doubt they would be able to be effective without that. who might have the exeptionally high PI is Sokolov. because the whole Empire is full with his inventions, and an invention is exactly about the ability to combine AI with PI. plus he is successful artist and holds a Royal physician post, therefore, he must have highier than usual SI. plus, he is a famous with his relations with women (including Delilah). so we must give him high MI. Sokolov might be the smartest in the world of Dishonored in sense of GI though he has problems with EI (i have his human experiments in mind).","哈夫洛克可能因为他在海军的级别和领导叛乱中的地位而具有更多SI。 关于PI，我想我们是否应该考虑道德，科沃和艾米丽是否具有异常高水平的PI，因为杀死/消灭目标的能力与PI有关（在书中，PI被描述为令人想起詹姆斯·邦德的技能，不仅仅是修理事物的能力）。但后来我意识到他们只是有这个印记。我怀疑如果没有这个印记，他们就不太可能有效果。 可能具有异常高PI的人是索科洛夫。因为整个帝国都充斥着他的发明，而发明正是关于将人工智能与PI结合的能力。再加上他是成功的艺术家，并担任皇家医生一职，因此，他必须具有比通常更高的SI。另外，他因与女性（包括黛莉拉）的关系而出名，所以我们必须认为他具有较高的MI。 索科洛夫可能在《耻辱之地》的世界中是最聪明的人，不过他在EI方面有问题（我考虑到了他的人体实验）。",0 4042,dpsx5wf,"So, to recap: * The reset for the director which Grace programmed (should have) theoretically worked * (In the future) The faction realized that they are going to lose control - and now had no choice but to shut down the director by turning off the reactor. * Shortly before they shut down the director, they send as much faction people as possible back to the 21st. Those faction people (probably thousands) are now stored inside the quantum frame. * Now, since the director went offline! the faction was not able to send back any more consciousnesses! * However, after the director went offline, the future is still able to send messages/messengers back to the 21st!? Also, as indicated by our team probably a lot of the last messages were sent from the faction. * So, definitely Forbes and all the people in the room with him with the quantum frame in S2E1 are faction. Also, all those consciousnesses which are still inside the quantum frame are faction. * The only reason why our team was involved, was because the faction had trouble to record messengers and thus needed the historian(Philipp) to remember the viruses’ components and the doctor(Derik?) to synthesize it. The question is now, if or when the future will be able to start the director again – or if it already has. There a lot of indications that it hasn’t. Director says nothing against the pregnancy of Kat. A messenger was send at the end of S2E3 (Jacob) to warn the team – or it was the faction - just to save the historian to receive the viruses’ data. What intrigues me is also, that unlike usual the director/the AI is the good one and tries to preserve/save as much people as possible. Now the humans(faction) are the bad guys since they decided that overpopulation is the reason of their misery. ","So, to recap: The reset for the director which Grace programmed (should have) theoretically worked (In the future) The faction realized that they are going to lose control - and now had no choice but to shut down the director by turning off the reactor. Shortly before they shut down the director, they send as much faction people as possible back to the 21st. Those faction people (probably thousands) are now stored inside the quantum frame. Now, since the director went offline! the faction was not able to send back any more consciousnesses! However, after the director went offline, the future is still able to send messagesmessengers back to the 21st!? Also, as indicated by our team probably a lot of the last messages were sent from the faction. So, definitely Forbes and all the people in the room with him with the quantum frame in S2E1 are faction. Also, all those consciousnesses which are still inside the quantum frame are faction. The only reason why our team was involved, was because the faction had trouble to record messengers and thus needed the historian(Philipp) to remember the viruses components and the doctor(Derik?) to synthesize it. The question is now, if or when the future will be able to start the director again or if it already has. There a lot of indications that it hasnt. Director says nothing against the pregnancy of Kat. A messenger was send at the end of S2E3 (Jacob) to warn the team or it was the faction - just to save the historian to receive the viruses data. What intrigues me is also, that unlike usual the directorthe AI is the good one and tries to preservesave as much people as possible. Now the humans(faction) are the bad guys since they decided that overpopulation is the reason of their misery.","所以，简单来说： * 格雷斯编程的对导演的重置理论上应该有效 * （在未来）派系意识到他们即将失去控制 - 现在他们别无选择，只能关闭反应堆来关闭导演。 * 在关闭导演之前不久，他们尽可能多地将派系成员送回21世纪。这些派系成员（可能有成千上万人）现在被储存在量子框架中。 * 现在，由于导演下线了！派系不能再发送更多意识回去了！ * 但是，在导演下线后，未来仍然能够发送消息/使者回到21世纪！？此外，正如我们的团队所指出的，许多最后的消息都是由派系发送的。 * 所以，无疑福布斯和与他在S2E1中的量子框架一起的房间里的所有人都是派系。此外，仍然在量子框架中的所有意识都是派系的。 * 我们的团队参与的唯一原因是因为派系在记录使者时遇到了麻烦，所以他们需要历史学家（菲利普）记住病毒的成分和医生（戴里克？）合成它。 现在的问题是，未来是否能够再次启动导演 - 或者它是否已经这样做了。有很多迹象表明它还没有。导演对凯特的怀孕没有表示任何反对。在S2E3结束时发送了一个使者（雅各）来警告团队 - 或者是派系 - 只是为了拯救历史学家，以便获得病毒的数据。 令我迷惑的是，与通常不同的是，导演/人工智能是善良的，并努力尽可能地保存/救助尽可能多的人。现在人类（派系）是坏人，因为他们决定人口过剩是他们痛苦的原因。",0 1969,dptqpg4,"I have received the same impression from anyone who I've known who has gone through medical school. Family practice is the least desirable option since it has very high levels of stress and fatigue, you have to deal with a lot of *different* people and expectations, you have to run a business, you get paid the least. The description as 'the retail job' seems apt. I am not very sympathetic since a lot of the front line work that goes through family doctors could be easily done by far less expensive nurse practitioners. I am pretty convinced that AI databases could, in relatively short time, do much of the diagnosis that family physicians do and properly direct the patients to doctors, pharmacists, specialists etc with a greater degree of accuracy than a person doctor can.","I have received the same impression from anyone who I've known who has gone through medical school. Family practice is the least desirable option since it has very high levels of stress and fatigue, you have to deal with a lot of different people and expectations, you have to run a business, you get paid the least. The description as 'the retail job' seems apt. I am not very sympathetic since a lot of the front line work that goes through family doctors could be easily done by far less expensive nurse practitioners. I am pretty convinced that AI databases could, in relatively short time, do much of the diagnosis that family physicians do and properly direct the patients to doctors, pharmacists, specialists etc with a greater degree of accuracy than a person doctor can.","我认识的所有上过医学院的人都给我留下了同样的印象。家庭医生是最不受欢迎的选择，因为工作压力和疲劳程度非常高，要应对很多不同的人和期望，还得管理生意，而且报酬最低。把它形容为“零售工作”似乎很贴切。 我不太同情，因为家庭医生处理的很多基层工作其实完全可以由护士承担，而且成本更低。我很确信，人工智能数据库在相对较短的时间内可以做到许多家庭医生所做的诊断工作，并能更准确地将患者正确引导到医生、药剂师、专家等。",1 3559,dpvhsdq,"if the doctor never trusts the AI's decision on when to send someone home, then there is no point in having the AI. that AI is providing zero benefit. Google gave control of the cooling of it's servers to deepmind, which is saving them millions of dollars a year in energy costs. Both are examples of cases where we defer decisionmaking to AI, despite their inscrutability.","if the doctor never trusts the AI's decision on when to send someone home, then there is no point in having the AI. that AI is providing zero benefit. Google gave control of the cooling of it's servers to deepmind, which is saving them millions of dollars a year in energy costs. Both are examples of cases where we defer decisionmaking to AI, despite their inscrutability.","如果医生从来不相信人工智能决定何时让病人回家，那有人工智能就没有意义。那个人工智能就没有任何好处。 谷歌把服务器的冷却控制权交给了深智，这样一年可以省下数百万美元的能源成本。 这两个例子说明了我们把决策权交给人工智能的情况，尽管它们难以捉摸。",1 914,dq1f898,"Passing an exam is not that hard for an AI. Actually being a doctor is much different . The test is meant to see if humans know what they are talking about and can apply that to people. The real advance is in watson which is diagnosing patients using their data . This is impressive but not really influential in replacing doctors compared to other AI systems . ",Passing an exam is not that hard for an AI. Actually being a doctor is much different . The test is meant to see if humans know what they are talking about and can apply that to people. The real advance is in watson which is diagnosing patients using their data . This is impressive but not really influential in replacing doctors compared to other AI systems .,"AI通过考试并不难。事实上，成为医生要困难得多。考试是用来看人类是否知道他们在谈论什么，并能将其应用到人身上。真正的进步在于华生，它能够使用患者的数据进行诊断。 这很令人印象深刻，但与其他AI系统相比，并不能真正影响替代医生。",1 4904,dq1oubt,">""The artificial-intelligence-enabled robot can automatically capture and analyze patient information and make initial diagnosis. It will be used to assist doctors to improve efficiency in future treatments, iFlytech said."" 张洁 . “Chinese Robot Becomes World's First Machine to Pass Medical Exam.” Technology, China Daily, 10 Nov. 2017, 15:32, www.chinadaily.com.cn/bizchina/tech/2017-11/10/content_34362656.htm.","gt;""The artificial-intelligence-enabled robot can automatically capture and analyze patient information and make initial diagnosis. It will be used to assist doctors to improve efficiency in future treatments, iFlytech said."" . Chinese Robot Becomes World's First Machine to Pass Medical Exam. Technology, China Daily, 10 Nov. 2017, 15:32, www.chinadaily.com.cnbizchinatech2017-1110content34362656.htm.","“这款人工智能机器人可以自动捕捉和分析患者信息，并进行初步诊断。未来，它将被用来辅助医生提高治疗效率，这是科大讯飞说的。” 意思是：这个机器人能够自动帮助医生收集和分析患者信息，并做初步诊断。将来它可以帮助医生提高治疗的效率。",1 1900,dq1y0h0,"IF the technology is currently reducing diagnostic times by 10 fold, you would see demand for radiologists drop significantly. And yet, there is the same amount of rad residencies, they are very busy in the hospital, and they still make obscene amounts of money. I actually heard a rads group give a speech on a diagnostic company they founded and described how AI will change the field in the next few decades - it WILL increase efficiency and accuracy, but will not significantly impact how many radiologists are employed in total or the type of work these radiologists do. To pretend that physicians will be unemployed in the foreseeable future is to have a very narrow idea of what physicians do. I stand by my claim that Watson has not dramatically affected the state of medicine in the US - it just isn't present in many hospitals and IF there was utility in Watson, it would be. ","IF the technology is currently reducing diagnostic times by 10 fold, you would see demand for radiologists drop significantly. And yet, there is the same amount of rad residencies, they are very busy in the hospital, and they still make obscene amounts of money. I actually heard a rads group give a speech on a diagnostic company they founded and described how AI will change the field in the next few decades - it WILL increase efficiency and accuracy, but will not significantly impact how many radiologists are employed in total or the type of work these radiologists do. To pretend that physicians will be unemployed in the foreseeable future is to have a very narrow idea of what physicians do. I stand by my claim that Watson has not dramatically affected the state of medicine in the US - it just isn't present in many hospitals and IF there was utility in Watson, it would be.",如果目前的技术可以将诊断时间缩短10倍，你会看到对放射科医生的需求大幅下降。然而，放射科住院医师的数量仍然相同，他们在医院里非常忙碌，而且他们仍然赚取了数不清的钱。我曾听到一个放射科医生团队关于他们创立的一个诊断公司的演讲，并描述了人工智能将如何在未来几十年改变这个领域 - 它确实会提高效率和准确性，但并不会对从事这项工作的放射科医生的数量或工作类型产生重大影响。假装医生在可预见的未来会失业，这只是对医生工作的非常狭隘的看法。我坚持认为沃森并没有显著影响美国的医学状况 - 它在许多医院并不存在，如果沃森有用，它就会存在。,1 3779,dq52xwd,"I removed your comment since you're not allowed to say doctors names or where they're located. I'm astounded she prescribed sermorelin, did your insurance cover it? The hcg on test makes sense, it keeps your balls happy, but the rest of it sounds like a bit much from a doctor. I wouldn't stop taking most if it I don't think, other than the clomid and switch to an AI if needed, I'm just shocked a doctor gave you all of that. ","I removed your comment since you're not allowed to say doctors names or where they're located. I'm astounded she prescribed sermorelin, did your insurance cover it? The hcg on test makes sense, it keeps your balls happy, but the rest of it sounds like a bit much from a doctor. I wouldn't stop taking most if it I don't think, other than the clomid and switch to an AI if needed, I'm just shocked a doctor gave you all of that.",我删除了你的评论，因为你不允许说医生的名字或他们所在的地方。我很惊讶她开了生长激素，你的保险报销了吗？在做测试的时候用hcg是有道理的，可以让你的睾丸开心，但医生开了这么多药感觉有点过了。我觉得除了克隆单，其它的药我都不会停止使用，有需要的话可以换成AI，我只是很惊讶医生给你开了这么多药。,0 2054,dq61o8e,"AI has huge potential in the health arena and cancer should be a sweet spot for it, but it is far from being fully baked. Today, Watson might be able to point you in a direction, but it seldom, if ever can lead you down a path. If you are a doctor or other type of health provider and you are looking a patient in the eye, while trying to formulate a care plan, Watson is not going to help. Evidence-based decision support at the point of care is still vital to helping patients with their immediate needs. This is where Watson stumbles. There are many articles like [this one](https://www.healthnewsreview.org/2017/02/md-anderson-cancer-centers-ibm-watson-project-fails-journalism-related/) that show the other side of the Watson coin. IBM needs to rethink how they are rolling out their product. ","AI has huge potential in the health arena and cancer should be a sweet spot for it, but it is far from being fully baked. Today, Watson might be able to point you in a direction, but it seldom, if ever can lead you down a path. If you are a doctor or other type of health provider and you are looking a patient in the eye, while trying to formulate a care plan, Watson is not going to help. Evidence-based decision support at the point of care is still vital to helping patients with their immediate needs. This is where Watson stumbles. There are many articles like this one(https:www.healthnewsreview.org201702md-anderson-cancer-centers-ibm-watson-project-fails-journalism-related) that show the other side of the Watson coin. IBM needs to rethink how they are rolling out their product.",人工智能在健康领域有巨大的潜力，对于癌症来说应该是一个甜蜜点，但它远未成熟。今天，沃森也许能指引你一个方向，但很少甚至从来不能引领你走向一个路径。如果你是医生或其他类型的医疗提供者，当你试图制定一个护理计划时，沃森是无济于事的。在护理点提供基于证据的决策支持仍然对帮助患者解决他们的即时需求至关重要。这就是沃森失败的地方。有许多文章像[这篇文章](https://www.healthnewsreview.org/2017/02/md-anderson-cancer-centers-ibm-watson-project-fails-journalism-related/)一样展示了沃森的另一面。IBM需要重新思考他们如何推出他们的产品。,1 1713,dq6arit,Im not so sure that the first places to have state of the art AI are going to be poor areas without doctors,Im not so sure that the first places to have state of the art AI are going to be poor areas without doctors,我不太确定第一个拥有最先进人工智能设施的地方会是医生稀缺的贫困地区。,1 1711,dq8ziwk,"Once robots and AI control nearly everything. Seems scary, but we're almost there as is. I personally think we won't ever have a SkyNet issue, but maybe a couple EMP bombs wouldn't be so bad to put people's minds at ease. Once we have ""replicators"" like in Star Trek where anything can be made and food is unlimited. Once money is eliminated. Perhaps we'll rely on a credit or point system for how many extraneous hours of skilled labor you provided or depending on your sizable contributions, such as musicians or scientists. If you provide beyond physical or skilled labor, you probably won't labor if you choose and instead the state will give you a pass to encourage you to produce more albums, paintings, scientific discoveries, or other major contributions to society. Instead of being exploited and having your work stolen by your sponsors, the state will reward you. You will have your name put down in history books forever and you'll probably get to attend some great events in your honor depending on how our society then chooses to reward significant contributions. Once class is nearly nonexistent. Sure, that doctor up the street might have a newer car and TV than you do at the moment, but they devoted their life to school and they're successful, so they get first dibs obviously. A society without ""class"" completely might never happen, but we can narrow down the large gaps between what currently defines class so that it's almost indistinguishable. The main difference here is that the means of production would be publicly owned, so the bourgeoisie children of the 1% will actually have to contribute to society somehow. No more neofeudalistic dynasties and no more hoarding the wealth of an entire nation in your family's back pocket. Just literally think of everything a utopian society would have in the future where robots do all the hard labor and everyone works to take care of each other and provide for everyone. That's communism and it's entirely possible.","Once robots and AI control nearly everything. Seems scary, but we're almost there as is. I personally think we won't ever have a SkyNet issue, but maybe a couple EMP bombs wouldn't be so bad to put people's minds at ease. Once we have ""replicators"" like in Star Trek where anything can be made and food is unlimited. Once money is eliminated. Perhaps we'll rely on a credit or point system for how many extraneous hours of skilled labor you provided or depending on your sizable contributions, such as musicians or scientists. If you provide beyond physical or skilled labor, you probably won't labor if you choose and instead the state will give you a pass to encourage you to produce more albums, paintings, scientific discoveries, or other major contributions to society. Instead of being exploited and having your work stolen by your sponsors, the state will reward you. You will have your name put down in history books forever and you'll probably get to attend some great events in your honor depending on how our society then chooses to reward significant contributions. Once class is nearly nonexistent. Sure, that doctor up the street might have a newer car and TV than you do at the moment, but they devoted their life to school and they're successful, so they get first dibs obviously. A society without ""class"" completely might never happen, but we can narrow down the large gaps between what currently defines class so that it's almost indistinguishable. The main difference here is that the means of production would be publicly owned, so the bourgeoisie children of the 1 will actually have to contribute to society somehow. No more neofeudalistic dynasties and no more hoarding the wealth of an entire nation in your family's back pocket. Just literally think of everything a utopian society would have in the future where robots do all the hard labor and everyone works to take care of each other and provide for everyone. That's communism and it's entirely possible.","有一天，机器人和人工智能几乎控制了一切。听起来有点可怕，但实际上我们离那个时代已经很近了。我个人觉得我们不会出现像《终结者》里的“天网”那样的问题，但也许放一些EMP炸弹会让人们放心一些。 有一天，我们会拥有“星际迷航”里那种能够制造任何东西，食物无限的“复制器”。 有一天，金钱会被废除。也许我们会依赖于一个信用或积分系统，根据你提供的多余技术劳动时间来衡量，或者根据你的重大贡献，比如音乐家或科学家。如果你提供的不仅仅是体力或技术劳动，你可能可以选择不再劳动，而是由国家给你通行证以鼓励你制作更多的专辑、绘画、科学发现或其他对社会有重大贡献。与其被赞助商剥削并偷取你的作品，国家会奖励你。你的名字将永远留在历史册上，根据那时我们的社会选择如何奖励重大贡献，你可能还会有机会参加一些盛大的活动来表彰你。 有一天，阶级差距将几乎不存在。当然，街上的医生可能拥有比你更新的汽车和电视，但他们把自己的一生都奉献给了学校，他们是成功的，所以显然他们有优先权。完全没有“阶级”的社会可能永远不会发生，但我们可以缩小目前定义阶级差距的巨大鸿沟，以至于几乎无法分辨。这里的主要区别在于生产手段将被公有化，所以那些1%的资产阶级的子女实际上将不得不以某种方式对社会做出贡献。不再有新封建主义的家族与整个国家的财富贮存在家族的后袋里。 简而言之，想象一下未来乌托邦社会会拥有的一切，机器人做所有的艰苦劳动，每个人都为彼此照顾和提供服务。那就是共产主义，这是完全可能的。",0 302,dqd573j,">Kind of. Actually, it isn’t possible to have a “handle” on AI. If super-intelligent AI is not created properly, there is absolutely nothing we can do to stop it (at that point) from eliminating mankind. I am going to call you out on this simply because it is so freaking ""the sky is falling"". This is the kind of fear mongering that will prevent AI from doing anything. ""The robot cars will kill us. The AI doctor killed my auntie! The AI started a war and killed everyone I love!"" Which is utter and complete BS. Nothing of the like will happen. AI will not enter our world in a day. It will take years and more likely decades. It will exhibit issues and problems and there will be rational regulation of the technology called AI. > will absolutely benefit society and not in the least bit harm society? NO. And no one can. It will harm society just as any change has. It will benefit society but there will be costs. Cheap plastic put wood carvers out of business. Automobiles destroyed the carriage industry. All industries caught in the apex of a change are damaged. Thus those that make their livings in such industries will be harmed. There is no progress without change and there is no societal change without harm. Let's take my favorite. The IRS. So the IRS employs 98,000 people. Most of these people do nothing more than follow a prescribed set of rules in computer programs to ensure that people pay their taxes. This is a job that could be done easily and very efficiently by an AI. But what do you do with the people no longer needed by the IRS? We are looking at (guestimate) 80,000 human beings without a job. IRS offices would close as they would no longer need the office space for 80,000 people. There would be a decrease in service providers for those 80,000 IRS workers. Think cleaning staff. That's another guestimate and let's call it 2000. So the finally tally would be some 82,000 to 85,0000 fewer humans on the government payroll. And it would be almost impossible to get to happen. You want to know why? A lot of people would hamstring the change to AI from human in this example because of the 'human cost'. Despite there be a clear and convincing argument that an IRS staffed by a politicized and bloated staff simply erodes any confidence the citizens have in their government. Could save taxpayers billions but won't because the people that collect the taxes would have a hard time finding work outside of the government. I would rather have an AI check my taxes rather than a tired, bored, inefficient human any day of the week. Add to this that the IRS employee works maybe seven hours a day at peak efficiency whereas an AI will work 24/7/365.","gt;Kind of. Actually, it isnt possible to have a handle on AI. If super-intelligent AI is not created properly, there is absolutely nothing we can do to stop it (at that point) from eliminating mankind. I am going to call you out on this simply because it is so freaking ""the sky is falling"". This is the kind of fear mongering that will prevent AI from doing anything. ""The robot cars will kill us. The AI doctor killed my auntie! The AI started a war and killed everyone I love!"" Which is utter and complete BS. Nothing of the like will happen. AI will not enter our world in a day. It will take years and more likely decades. It will exhibit issues and problems and there will be rational regulation of the technology called AI. gt; will absolutely benefit society and not in the least bit harm society? NO. And no one can. It will harm society just as any change has. It will benefit society but there will be costs. Cheap plastic put wood carvers out of business. Automobiles destroyed the carriage industry. All industries caught in the apex of a change are damaged. Thus those that make their livings in such industries will be harmed. There is no progress without change and there is no societal change without harm. Let's take my favorite. The IRS. So the IRS employs 98,000 people. Most of these people do nothing more than follow a prescribed set of rules in computer programs to ensure that people pay their taxes. This is a job that could be done easily and very efficiently by an AI. But what do you do with the people no longer needed by the IRS? We are looking at (guestimate) 80,000 human beings without a job. IRS offices would close as they would no longer need the office space for 80,000 people. There would be a decrease in service providers for those 80,000 IRS workers. Think cleaning staff. That's another guestimate and let's call it 2000. So the finally tally would be some 82,000 to 85,0000 fewer humans on the government payroll. And it would be almost impossible to get to happen. You want to know why? A lot of people would hamstring the change to AI from human in this example because of the 'human cost'. Despite there be a clear and convincing argument that an IRS staffed by a politicized and bloated staff simply erodes any confidence the citizens have in their government. Could save taxpayers billions but won't because the people that collect the taxes would have a hard time finding work outside of the government. I would rather have an AI check my taxes rather than a tired, bored, inefficient human any day of the week. Add to this that the IRS employee works maybe seven hours a day at peak efficiency whereas an AI will work 247365.","嗯，有点吧。实际上，要控制AI是不可能的。如果超级智能AI没有得到正确开发，我们就无法阻止它消灭人类（那个时候）。 我要顶住你，就因为这个简直太夸张了。这就是那种危言耸听，会阻止AI做任何事情的。""机器车会杀了我们。AI医生害死了我的姑妈！AI发动了一场战争，杀害了我爱的人！""这些都是完全的胡扯。不会发生类似的事情。 AI不会一下子进入我们的世界。它会花费数年，更有可能是几十年。它会出现问题，会有一些规范，对这项名为AI的技术进行合理的监管。 它会绝对造福社会吗，一点伤害都没有？ 不会。没有人能这么说。它会对社会造成伤害，就像任何变革一样。它会造福社会，但会有代价。廉价塑料将木雕师们赶出了市场，汽车摧毁了马车产业。所有处于变革顶峰的行业都会受损。因此，那些在这些行业谋生的人会受到伤害。没有变革就没有进步，没有社会变革就没有伤害。 让我们以我的最爱举例。国税局。所以国税局雇用了98,000人。其中大多数人只是按照预定的规则在电脑程序中工作，确保人们交税。这是一个AI可以轻而易举、高效完成的工作。 但对于不再被国税局需要的人该怎么办？我们估计有大约80,000人会失业。国税局办公室会关闭，因为他们不再需要为80,000人提供的办公空间。服务提供商也会减少，就是清洁工。这又是估计值，我们称之为2000人。因此，最终总数将是政府的工作人员减少了大约82,000到85,000人。而这几乎不可能发生。你想知道为什么吗？ 在这个例子中，因为这种变化会带来'人类成本'，很多人会阻碍AI取代人类。尽管有一个清晰而有力的论点，即由政治化和臃肿的人员构成的国税局会削弱公民对政府的信心。这样做可以为纳税人节省数十亿美元，但不会这样做，因为收税的人在政府外找工作会比较困难。 我宁愿让AI审核我的税款，而不是让疲惫、无聊、效率低下的人类每天都来做。再加上，国税局的雇员或许一天只有7小时的高效工作时间，而AI则会24/7、一年365天地工作。",1 520,dqe5nft,"Haha, very true. It's noticeably brown to me. Too funny that you have to rely on the nurses!! I just hate the look of them more than anything. The one on my chest is small, but similar. Glad that you don't think they're anything to be concerned about. I'm at the point where I've had so many labs I'm sort of grasping at straws. I thought the neutropenia was finally going to be missing puzzle piece, turns out my body resolved it. I guess I was hoping this could be a ""trigger"" symptom to a diagnosis. I've honest never heard of these showing up out of the blue in adults. Your ""don't worry"" mentality is very reassuring, though. Autoimmune conditions are pretty prevalent in my family, which is why when I presented with my symptoms, every doctor assumed it was going to be a simple diagnosis. Here we are over a year later... Regarding labs, I don't think I ever had my ACTH checked. When I first presented to my endocrinologist, he was concerned about Addison's/AI, so he ran the cortrosyn stim test just in case (but was confident I didn't have it). To our surprise, my AM cortisol was actually elevated. That lead to the dexamethasone suppression test, which I *barely* failed. After I didn't fully suppress that, he wanted to check my 24 hour UFC, which was WNL. He blames the elevated cortisol on ""stress"". Thank you so much, thankfully the weight loss has stabilized (70 pounds later...) in the recent months. So, worth showing at a scheduled appointment but both worth calling/booking an appointment to have them checked out? ","Haha, very true. It's noticeably brown to me. Too funny that you have to rely on the nurses!! I just hate the look of them more than anything. The one on my chest is small, but similar. Glad that you don't think they're anything to be concerned about. I'm at the point where I've had so many labs I'm sort of grasping at straws. I thought the neutropenia was finally going to be missing puzzle piece, turns out my body resolved it. I guess I was hoping this could be a ""trigger"" symptom to a diagnosis. I've honest never heard of these showing up out of the blue in adults. Your ""don't worry"" mentality is very reassuring, though. Autoimmune conditions are pretty prevalent in my family, which is why when I presented with my symptoms, every doctor assumed it was going to be a simple diagnosis. Here we are over a year later... Regarding labs, I don't think I ever had my ACTH checked. When I first presented to my endocrinologist, he was concerned about Addison'sAI, so he ran the cortrosyn stim test just in case (but was confident I didn't have it). To our surprise, my AM cortisol was actually elevated. That lead to the dexamethasone suppression test, which I barely failed. After I didn't fully suppress that, he wanted to check my 24 hour UFC, which was WNL. He blames the elevated cortisol on ""stress"". Thank you so much, thankfully the weight loss has stabilized (70 pounds later...) in the recent months. So, worth showing at a scheduled appointment but both worth callingbooking an appointment to have them checked out?","哈哈，太对了。对我来说，它明显是褐色的。太有趣了，你居然得依赖护士们！！我就是讨厌它们的外观。我胸上的那个很小，但类似。你觉得它们没什么可担心的，我挺高兴的。我已经做了这么多次化验，感觉有些无从下手了。我还以为中性粒细胞减少终于能揭开谜题，结果我的身体自己解决了。我猜我是希望这可能是一种“触发”诊断症状。老实说，我从没听说过这些会突然出现在成年人身上。不过你的“别担心”的态度确实让人放心。 我家族里自身免疫疾病相当常见，所以当我出现症状时，每个医生都以为会是一个简单的诊断。现在，一年多过去了…… 关于化验，我想我没检查过我的ACTH。当我第一次去看内分泌科的时候，他担心是艾迪生病/肾上腺不全，所以他进行了皮质醇刺激测试以防万一（但他确信我没有得）。令我们惊讶的是，我的早上皮质醇实际上升高了。这导致了地塞米松抑制试验，结果我“刚好”不及格了。因为没有完全抑制，他想检查我的24小时尿游离皮质醇，结果是正常的。他把升高的皮质醇归咎于“压力”。 非常感谢，幸运的是体重下降的情况在最近几个月已经稳定下来了（瘦了70磅……）。所以，值得在预约时秀出来吗，或者值得打电话/预约检查一下？",0 4665,dqeu9kt,"Only with the assumption that the machines will be 'conscious', which I seriously doubt will ever happen (i.e. they grow concerned about their own interests). Take for example Watson. It's better at detecting cancer than human doctors are. Are you saying that utilizing Watson's AI is beyond ignorant? >That would just make the builders of the machine our defacto rulers Incorrect, all code would be by law open source and all manufacturing completely transparent. No backdoors, no cheats, and with the best eyes of the world on them, they wouldn't get away with any shenanigans. >Any collectivist system requires someone or a group in power decide the distribution of all resources. Yes, and that group in power would be a bunch of algorithms that have much greater capability than any organic distribution of resources and no interest in hoarding or increasing their own personal wealth. ","Only with the assumption that the machines will be 'conscious', which I seriously doubt will ever happen (i.e. they grow concerned about their own interests). Take for example Watson. It's better at detecting cancer than human doctors are. Are you saying that utilizing Watson's AI is beyond ignorant? gt;That would just make the builders of the machine our defacto rulers Incorrect, all code would be by law open source and all manufacturing completely transparent. No backdoors, no cheats, and with the best eyes of the world on them, they wouldn't get away with any shenanigans. gt;Any collectivist system requires someone or a group in power decide the distribution of all resources. Yes, and that group in power would be a bunch of algorithms that have much greater capability than any organic distribution of resources and no interest in hoarding or increasing their own personal wealth.","只有在机器“有意识”的假设下，我认为这几乎不可能发生（也就是说，它们会开始关心自己的利益）。 以沃森为例。它在检测癌症方面比人类医生更好。你是说利用沃森的人工智能是愚蠢之举吗？ >那样只会使得机器的制造者成为我们实际的统治者 不对，所有的代码都将依法公开，所有的制造过程都将完全透明。没有后门，没有欺骗，而且在全世界的目光下，他们做任何花招都逃不掉。 >任何集体主义系统都需要有人或一群人决定所有资源的分配。 是的，而那个决定资源分配的人群将是一群算法，它们的能力远远超过任何有机资源分配，并且没有兴趣囤积或增加自己的个人财富。",1 3210,dqj3cj6,"Sounds like the year I came down with celiac. Same weight loss but with severe pain. I was out 4 months while docs struggled to figure out what was wrong. What do the doctors say? Have you tried being gluten free? Helps with several ai diseases. Have you talked with your principal? Maybe they could hold your job while you get better? And no, it shouldn't ruin your chances of getting another job in the future. Please focus on getting better.","Sounds like the year I came down with celiac. Same weight loss but with severe pain. I was out 4 months while docs struggled to figure out what was wrong. What do the doctors say? Have you tried being gluten free? Helps with several ai diseases. Have you talked with your principal? Maybe they could hold your job while you get better? And no, it shouldn't ruin your chances of getting another job in the future. Please focus on getting better.",听起来像是我患上乳糜泻的那一年。体重也是一直减，还伴有剧烈疼痛。在医生费尽力才找出问题的4个月里，我都无法工作。医生有什么说法？试过不吃麸质吗？对于一些自身免疫性疾病有帮助。你和校长说过吗？也许他们可以让你在康复期间保留工作？而且，这不应该毁了你未来找工作的机会。请先专注于康复吧。,0 1035,dqrfw7j,"I want to buy enough land to support a relatively independent group of people; enough folks that all the basic professions are accounted for--doctors, farmers, engineers, artists, et cetera. Probably 20-150 people. Then I want to create a community and an economy that act as an alternative to the US economy by setting up basic infrastructure: a simple clinic, a sophisticated workshop, a performance area for musicians, a robot-managed permaculture farm, and so forth. My ideal is that by combining labor-saving new technologies with older, more commmunalistic living structures, I can create a world in which everybody works around 16 hours a week for the community and then spends the rest of their time on whatever projects are interesting to them. Basically a way of socializing the benefits of AI and automation rather than letting all the profits go to the super-rich.","I want to buy enough land to support a relatively independent group of people; enough folks that all the basic professions are accounted for--doctors, farmers, engineers, artists, et cetera. Probably 20-150 people. Then I want to create a community and an economy that act as an alternative to the US economy by setting up basic infrastructure: a simple clinic, a sophisticated workshop, a performance area for musicians, a robot-managed permaculture farm, and so forth. My ideal is that by combining labor-saving new technologies with older, more commmunalistic living structures, I can create a world in which everybody works around 16 hours a week for the community and then spends the rest of their time on whatever projects are interesting to them. Basically a way of socializing the benefits of AI and automation rather than letting all the profits go to the super-rich.",我想要买一片足够大的土地，可以支撑一个相对独立的小团体生活；足够多的人来覆盖所有基本职业，比如医生、农民、工程师、艺术家等等。大概是20-150人。然后我想要创建一个社区和一个独立经济体系，作为美国经济的一种替代，通过建立基本的基础设施：一个简易诊所、一个复杂的车间、一个音乐表演区，一个由机器人管理的永续农场等等。我的理想是结合节约劳动力的新技术和更加共产主义的生活结构，创造一个每个人每周大约工作16个小时为社区服务，然后剩下的时间可以用在自己感兴趣的项目上的世界。基本上是一种社会化人工智能和自动化的好处，而不是让所有的利润都流向超级富豪。,0 2994,dqryt27,"This is a pretty effective solution. When you die, you respawn. But an ai patient still exists for a doctor to help and get rewarded for. ","This is a pretty effective solution. When you die, you respawn. But an ai patient still exists for a doctor to help and get rewarded for.",这是一个相当有效的解决方案。当你死后，你会重新开始游戏。但是，AI患者仍然存在，医生可以帮助他们并获得奖励。,0 4009,dqshy2g,"I don’t think Earth tech is that advanced yet in the MCU. Sure the Guardians can jump to different planets, but in the Avengers Iron Man couldn’t even fly into space, nor could they harness the full power of the Tesseract to open portals, not without Loki anyway. And humanity barely cracked AI yet, which could just be attributed to the mind stone. Doctor Stange is just about the only human that can travel between worlds/dimensions, but that’s magic not technology. ","I dont think Earth tech is that advanced yet in the MCU. Sure the Guardians can jump to different planets, but in the Avengers Iron Man couldnt even fly into space, nor could they harness the full power of the Tesseract to open portals, not without Loki anyway. And humanity barely cracked AI yet, which could just be attributed to the mind stone. Doctor Stange is just about the only human that can travel between worldsdimensions, but thats magic not technology.",在漫威电影宇宙中，我觉得地球科技还没那么发达。虽然星際異攻隊可以跳到不同的行星，但复仇者联盟里，钢铁侠甚至都飞不上太空，也不能利用全能方塊的力量打開傳送門，除非有洛基出手。人類幾乎還沒有破解AI，這可能只能歸因於心靈宝石。只有奇异博士才能用魔法穿梭不同的世界/维度，但那是魔法不是科技。,0 3055,dqsm01p,"> But heir educated into wrong reliigion isn't supposed to happen at all, so it happening once in a game is a problem. It will happen at different frequencies for different games because of RNG but it happening at all isn't supposed to be a thing, and that is the issue in itself. # >it's an oddity cause by something not working as intended so it should be fixed. It's like if the caliph decided to go orthodox, thankfully I think the caliph title is hard locked for religion so thats impossible, but if it was supposed to be impossible but it happened anyway would you not be annoyed? Caliph deciding to go Orthodox is a bug, since the game has restricted religious heads' open religions (fun fact: Caliphs' heirs can be of a different religion and dismantle the Caliphate, but that's uncommon for Sunni Caliphate. Shia Caliphate on the other hand seems to suffer from memory loss and after a few generations the Caliphate is dissolved due to the heir switching to Sunni), but heretic/infidel court physicians educating heirs is not. At best it's an anomaly going amiss. It's something that PDX can potentially discourage AI to do (which they did with Heritage/Faith fix), but I seriously don't see it happen as often as you reckon it does.","gt; But heir educated into wrong reliigion isn't supposed to happen at all, so it happening once in a game is a problem. It will happen at different frequencies for different games because of RNG but it happening at all isn't supposed to be a thing, and that is the issue in itself. gt;it's an oddity cause by something not working as intended so it should be fixed. It's like if the caliph decided to go orthodox, thankfully I think the caliph title is hard locked for religion so thats impossible, but if it was supposed to be impossible but it happened anyway would you not be annoyed? Caliph deciding to go Orthodox is a bug, since the game has restricted religious heads' open religions (fun fact: Caliphs' heirs can be of a different religion and dismantle the Caliphate, but that's uncommon for Sunni Caliphate. Shia Caliphate on the other hand seems to suffer from memory loss and after a few generations the Caliphate is dissolved due to the heir switching to Sunni), but hereticinfidel court physicians educating heirs is not. At best it's an anomaly going amiss. It's something that PDX can potentially discourage AI to do (which they did with HeritageFaith fix), but I seriously don't see it happen as often as you reckon it does.","但是继承人受教导错了宗教本来就不应该发生，所以在游戏中发生一次就是一个问题。由于随机数的原因，不同游戏中会有不同的频率发生，但总之发生了本身就不应该是一回事，这就是问题所在。 这种情况是由于某些东西不按预期运行引起的奇怪现象，所以应该被修复。就好像哈里发决定成为东正教徒一样，谢天谢地，我想哈里发头衔应该被宗教硬锁定，所以不可能，但如果本来不可能却发生了，你会不会感到烦恼？ 哈里发决定成为东正教徒是一个bug，因为游戏限制了宗教领袖的公开宗教（有趣的事实：哈里发的继承人可能是不同的宗教，解散哈里发国，但对逊尼派哈里发国来说这很少见。而什叶派哈里发国似乎遭受了遗忘，几代之后哈里发国由于继承人改变为逊尼派而解散），但异端/不信者的宫廷医生教育继承人并不是。最多只能算是一个异常。这是PDX潜在可以防止AI做的事情（就像他们在遗产/信仰修复中所做的那样），但我真的不觉得这种情况经常发生。",0 3,dqwgam6,"It's ?80 a month for a supply for Sustanon but the Doctor tells you to throw half the amp away, if you fill two syringes worth it's more like ?40 a month which isn't too bad imo, obviously if you want hCG and AI it can get more pricey. I agree that they are quick to prescribe TRT but you say that like its a bad thing. Im old and smart enough to make my own decisions without a having a Doctor dictate whats best for me like I'm a child or something ","It's 80 a month for a supply for Sustanon but the Doctor tells you to throw half the amp away, if you fill two syringes worth it's more like 40 a month which isn't too bad imo, obviously if you want hCG and AI it can get more pricey. I agree that they are quick to prescribe TRT but you say that like its a bad thing. Im old and smart enough to make my own decisions without a having a Doctor dictate whats best for me like I'm a child or something",每个月的Sustanon供应要80英镑，但医生告诉你扔掉一半的安瓿，如果你可以打两支针，一个月大约40英镑，我觉得还行。当然，如果你想要hCG和AI，就会更贵了。我同意他们很快就给处方TRT，但你说得好像这是件坏事一样。我老了，足够聪明，可以自己做决定，不需要医生像我还是个小孩一样告诉我什么对我最好。,0 1579,dqwj612,"you should have stayed at 125mg per week (split in 2 doses), no AI, no proviron, no nothing...wait 4-6 weeks and test at trough and see where you were. and then fine tuning the dose to reach a good but not too high T trough level (like 600-700 at trough). Then, if at dose you had high e2, add an AI in very low doses and then fine tuning it too. This if your focus was to go on TRT to alleviate symptoms. If instead you are after steroid gain and such (nothing wrong with it, everyone does what he wants with his body), stay on your current dose and increase the AI but make sure that AI is pharma grade. 12,5 aromasin EOD should be plenty to keep E2 under control By the way, since there is no way a doctor prescribed you this, are you using UGL stuff ? ","you should have stayed at 125mg per week (split in 2 doses), no AI, no proviron, no nothing...wait 4-6 weeks and test at trough and see where you were. and then fine tuning the dose to reach a good but not too high T trough level (like 600-700 at trough). Then, if at dose you had high e2, add an AI in very low doses and then fine tuning it too. This if your focus was to go on TRT to alleviate symptoms. If instead you are after steroid gain and such (nothing wrong with it, everyone does what he wants with his body), stay on your current dose and increase the AI but make sure that AI is pharma grade. 12,5 aromasin EOD should be plenty to keep E2 under control By the way, since there is no way a doctor prescribed you this, are you using UGL stuff ?","你本来应该每周使用125毫克（分成2次服用），不需要碧乐净，也不需要其他的东西...等4-6周后再进行检验，看看你的荷尔蒙水平如何。然后再微调剂量，使睾酮水平保持在一个好但不要太高的水平（比如在低谷期达到600-700）。 然后，如果在这个剂量下你的雌激素水平过高，就加入一点碧乐净，然后再微调剂量。 这适用于你希望通过TRT缓解症状。如果你是为了类固醇效果而使用（这也没什么不对，每个人都有权利决定自己的身体），那就继续当前的剂量，并增加碧乐净，但一定要确保是药店级别的。每隔一天服用12.5毫克的阿洛玛星应该足够控制雌激素水平。 顺便问一下，既然医生不可能给你开这个，你是在使用地下实验室的产品吗？",0 481,dqx5ww7,"One thing they didn't touch on is that we are largely running out of jobs for people, if we look at almost every sector we are rapidly running out of jobs for people to do. Let's look at for example the legal industry, something largely through to not be easy to automate (as opposed to say accounting, transportation, and manufacturing) -- we are now seeing the emergence of AI's that are able to do large portions of the work that would have been taken up by junior lawyers things like discovery, contract formation, and writing wills are really good examples of this. This doesn't mean we don't need lawyers at all, but it does mean that we need about half the legal industry we use to need. Medicine is no different with AI's reaching 97% of the efficacy of a human physician; again this won't mean the elimination of practitioners entirely, but it will mean that those who remain can be used much much more efficiently. Where does this tie into a UBI? Well, we have a system of economics that requires companies to produce things to sell to consumers (people), those companies rely on people having money to buy the things in order for those companies to make a profit. If you suddenly say overnight (in economic terms that's how fast we are moving) 30% of your population (for an example the transport industry in many countries is around 30% of the overall economy) suddenly don't have jobs or don't have secure jobs you have a looming economic disaster. For some context for many countries peek unemployment has been around 25% during the Great Depression. So imagine an event the magnitude of the Great Depression -- except that will be just the transportation sector when we bring in self driving cars and trucks. Perhaps the most upsetting part of this is that the people who will lose their jobs to these developments won't be doing so because of fault of their own these are largely hard working people, they will be losing their jobs because they are literally unemployable. What happens when we reach a point with 9 jobs for every 10 people (some would argue many countries are already at that point), or 7 jobs for every 10 people. What happens when corporations have no consumers to buy their goods, those self driving trucks are now no longer needed, those companies have no revenue because people can't' buy things. Our entire economic system collapses if we don't do something about this current system. A Universal Basic Income is just one example of the ways we could deal with these looming problems.","One thing they didn't touch on is that we are largely running out of jobs for people, if we look at almost every sector we are rapidly running out of jobs for people to do. Let's look at for example the legal industry, something largely through to not be easy to automate (as opposed to say accounting, transportation, and manufacturing) -- we are now seeing the emergence of AI's that are able to do large portions of the work that would have been taken up by junior lawyers things like discovery, contract formation, and writing wills are really good examples of this. This doesn't mean we don't need lawyers at all, but it does mean that we need about half the legal industry we use to need. Medicine is no different with AI's reaching 97 of the efficacy of a human physician; again this won't mean the elimination of practitioners entirely, but it will mean that those who remain can be used much much more efficiently. Where does this tie into a UBI? Well, we have a system of economics that requires companies to produce things to sell to consumers (people), those companies rely on people having money to buy the things in order for those companies to make a profit. If you suddenly say overnight (in economic terms that's how fast we are moving) 30 of your population (for an example the transport industry in many countries is around 30 of the overall economy) suddenly don't have jobs or don't have secure jobs you have a looming economic disaster. For some context for many countries peek unemployment has been around 25 during the Great Depression. So imagine an event the magnitude of the Great Depression -- except that will be just the transportation sector when we bring in self driving cars and trucks. Perhaps the most upsetting part of this is that the people who will lose their jobs to these developments won't be doing so because of fault of their own these are largely hard working people, they will be losing their jobs because they are literally unemployable. What happens when we reach a point with 9 jobs for every 10 people (some would argue many countries are already at that point), or 7 jobs for every 10 people. What happens when corporations have no consumers to buy their goods, those self driving trucks are now no longer needed, those companies have no revenue because people can't' buy things. Our entire economic system collapses if we don't do something about this current system. A Universal Basic Income is just one example of the ways we could deal with these looming problems.","他们没有提及的一点是，我们很大程度上已经没有足够的工作岗位供人们去做。如果我们看几乎每个行业，我们几乎已经没有足够的工作岗位供人们去做。比如说法律行业，通常来说不容易被自动化（与会计、交通和制造业相比）--我们现在看到人工智能已经能够完成部分初级律师原本要做的工作，比如调查、合同签订和遗嘱书面起草都是很好的例子。这并不意味着我们不再需要律师，但确实意味着我们现在只需要过去大约一半数量的法律行业。医学也没什么不同，人工智能已经达到了人类医生97%的效率；同样这并不意味着完全淘汰从业者，但意味着那些留下来的人可以被更加高效地利用。 这跟普遍基本收入有什么关系呢？嗯，我们有一种经济体系，要求公司生产商品销售给消费者（人们），这些公司依赖人们有钱购买物品以便为这些公司带来盈利。如果你突然说一夜之间（以经济术语来说就是我们发展迅速的速度）30%的人口（比如说，在许多国家运输行业占整体经济的30%）突然失去了工作或者失去了稳定的工作，那将会是一场严重的经济灾难。 具体到一些国家，大萧条时期失业率达到了大约25%。所以想象一下，只是运输行业推行自动驾驶汽车和卡车之后便会出现与大萧条规模相当的事件。 也许最令人沮丧的部分是，那些失去工作的人并不是因为他们自身的过错，他们大部分都是勤劳的人，他们失去工作仅仅是因为他们真的找不到工作。 当我们达到一种情况，就是10个人中只有9个工作岗位（有人会争辩很多国家已经到了这个地步），或者是10个人中只有7个工作岗位时，会发生什么？ 当公司没有消费者来购买他们的商品时，那些自动驾驶卡车将不再需要，那些公司因为人们买不了东西而没有收入。如果我们不对当前的体系做些改变，整个经济体系就会崩溃。普遍基本收入只是我们可能应对这些潜在问题的方式之一。",1 1788,dqxdqbd,"First of all, what AI program is useful for providing diagnoses to any group? I don't know a single physician that uses computers in isolation of clinical reasoning in diagnosing a condition. I'd also love to hear a solution to the lack of minority representation in old clinical trials instead of some ""I'm so much more enlightened than all the sheeple"". Part of interpreting medical studies is approximating the level of generalizability of the data set (based on the diversity of the population sample). Human physiology isn't so different that we need to adjust diagnostic criteria too too drastically depending on race, and I would argue that a race-blind diagnostic working has a huge benefit from the standpoint of physicians not anchoring on diagnoses that traditionally affect certain groups","First of all, what AI program is useful for providing diagnoses to any group? I don't know a single physician that uses computers in isolation of clinical reasoning in diagnosing a condition. I'd also love to hear a solution to the lack of minority representation in old clinical trials instead of some ""I'm so much more enlightened than all the sheeple"". Part of interpreting medical studies is approximating the level of generalizability of the data set (based on the diversity of the population sample). Human physiology isn't so different that we need to adjust diagnostic criteria too too drastically depending on race, and I would argue that a race-blind diagnostic working has a huge benefit from the standpoint of physicians not anchoring on diagnoses that traditionally affect certain groups","首先，有什么人工智能程序可以为任何群体提供诊断有用？我不知道有哪个医生在诊断一种疾病时会完全依赖电脑而忽视临床推理。 我也想听听针对旧临床试验中少数族裔代表不足的解决方案，而不是一些“我比大多数人都开明”的言论。解读医学研究的一部分就是确定数据集的普适性水平（基于人口样本的多样性）。 人体生理并不会因为种族而有太大的不同，我认为一种看不到种族的诊断工作在医生的立场上是有很大好处的，他们不会受传统上只影响特定群体的诊断的影响。",1 4770,drjcax0,"We just did. Now if we just force deregulation of medical providers by taking control away from the doctors union...the AMA... And the FDA ..who are really big pharmas drug monopoly lobby... Both of which artificially restrict supplies and restriction radical new technology which would lower medical costs drastically with things like AI diagnosis, less prescription requirements, vastly quicker new drug trials with less restrictions on patients who wish to participate and robotic surgeons which will massively lower costs of surgery and vastly improve accuracy and outcomes","We just did. Now if we just force deregulation of medical providers by taking control away from the doctors union...the AMA... And the FDA ..who are really big pharmas drug monopoly lobby... Both of which artificially restrict supplies and restriction radical new technology which would lower medical costs drastically with things like AI diagnosis, less prescription requirements, vastly quicker new drug trials with less restrictions on patients who wish to participate and robotic surgeons which will massively lower costs of surgery and vastly improve accuracy and outcomes","我们刚刚做到了。 现在如果我们强行取消医疗服务提供者的监管权限，从医生工会...美国医学协会...和食品药品监督管理局手中夺取控制权......他们实际上是大型制药公司的药品垄断游说团体...这两者都在人为地限制供应和限制具有激进新技术的医疗费用的降低，比如人工智能诊断、减少处方要求、更快速度的新药试验以及对愿意参与的患者的限制较少，以及机器人外科医生，这将大大降低手术成本并显著提高准确性和结果。",1 2775,drjit5z,"Woah, thank you so much for all the information! I know that I've had only my TTG and IgA measure, those were both normal. I was aware of the gliadin and EMA, but I haven't had either of this run. Perhaps those may be worthwhile in the meantime. Your description totally makes sense. I've been trying to make sense of it all day, and that really helped to clear it up. I do understand that it's found in many celiac patients, but also know that it is found in the healthy population as well. I have had a CBC and iron panel run -- I tend to run a bit low (hemoglobin normally holds just barely in normal range) with low ferritin (11), borderline iron saturation, and high TIBC. I can include the specific numbers if that's helpful. I do know that my vitamin D is low as well (though not surprising) My ESR has been normal every time it's been checked. My doctor and I have planned to do an upper endoscopy and colonoscopy for rule out of both celiac and other potential GI issues. I've struggled with unexplained weight loss (quite extreme), hair loss, fatigue, anemia, and occasional neutropenia/leukopenia (making us suspect an AI disease). Weirdly enough, the GI issues are fairly minor and not life altering, just thought it was worth investigating with the weight loss. I know that an endoscopy is all that required for celiac, but where I will already be sedated, the recommended a colonoscopy for good measure as well. Definitely have not eliminated gluten from my diet, I do not intend until after the test (if ever). I will consider the 8-12 week test if nothing comes out of the scopes. Thank you again, I really appreciate your help! ","Woah, thank you so much for all the information! I know that I've had only my TTG and IgA measure, those were both normal. I was aware of the gliadin and EMA, but I haven't had either of this run. Perhaps those may be worthwhile in the meantime. Your description totally makes sense. I've been trying to make sense of it all day, and that really helped to clear it up. I do understand that it's found in many celiac patients, but also know that it is found in the healthy population as well. I have had a CBC and iron panel run -- I tend to run a bit low (hemoglobin normally holds just barely in normal range) with low ferritin (11), borderline iron saturation, and high TIBC. I can include the specific numbers if that's helpful. I do know that my vitamin D is low as well (though not surprising) My ESR has been normal every time it's been checked. My doctor and I have planned to do an upper endoscopy and colonoscopy for rule out of both celiac and other potential GI issues. I've struggled with unexplained weight loss (quite extreme), hair loss, fatigue, anemia, and occasional neutropenialeukopenia (making us suspect an AI disease). Weirdly enough, the GI issues are fairly minor and not life altering, just thought it was worth investigating with the weight loss. I know that an endoscopy is all that required for celiac, but where I will already be sedated, the recommended a colonoscopy for good measure as well. Definitely have not eliminated gluten from my diet, I do not intend until after the test (if ever). I will consider the 8-12 week test if nothing comes out of the scopes. Thank you again, I really appreciate your help!","哇，非常感谢你提供的所有信息！ 我知道我只做了TTG和IgA检查，两者都是正常的。我知道有关葡胺聚糖和EMA的情况，但我还没有做过这两项检查。也许在这段时间内做这些检查是值得的。 你的描述完全说得通。我整天都在试图弄明白这些，你的回答真的帮我理清了思路。我知道在很多乳糖敏感病患中都能检测到，但也知道它在健康人群中也可以检测到。 我做过全血细胞计数和铁蛋白检测——我倾向于低一些（血红蛋白通常刚好在正常范围内），铁蛋白低（11），铁饱和度边缘，可饱和铁结合力高。如果有需要，我可以提供具体数字。我也知道我的维生素D含量很低（虽然这并不奇怪）。 我的ESR每次检查都是正常的。 我和我的医生计划做上消化道内镜和结肠镜检查，排除乳糖敏感和其他潜在的肠道问题。我一直在经历不明原因的体重减轻（相当极端）、脱发、疲劳、贫血，还偶尔出现中性粒细胞减少/白细胞减少（让我们怀疑是自身免疫性疾病）。奇怪的是，我的胃肠问题相当小，并没有影响生活，但觉得值得研究因为体重减轻的原因。我知道内镜检查是确诊乳糖敏感最需要的，但因为我已经要接受麻醉，所以医生推荐了结肠镜检查作为额外的确认。 我绝对还没有从饮食中剔除麸质，我打算在检查后（如果需要的话）才会考虑。如果内镜检查没有结果，我会考虑做8-12周的排除试验。 再次感谢，非常感谢你的帮助！",0 1955,drpmyrg,"The later it happens, the less of an issue it would be. What happened in Children of Men and the Handmaid's Tale was the result of the collapse of economic systems and the state defaulting on its welfare and financial obligations to its citizens. The demographic shift means that young workers would have to support a disproportionate number of beneficiaries with one fifth the production of the previous generation. Police, firefighters, soldiers, doctors, teachers, any profession which relies on state support would collapse due to a lack of tax revenue. If it were to happen say, fifty or a hundred years from now, and if you ignore all the social effects, the problem would be somewhat contained. We'd likely have a high degree of automation in production and AI replacing human workers anyways, that the gradual reduction in human contribution wouldn't affect productivity too much. We probably wouldn't have the same rapid economic and societal collapse we see in those dystopian TV shows, nor the hardline political groups that inevitably exploit crises to gain political power.","The later it happens, the less of an issue it would be. What happened in Children of Men and the Handmaid's Tale was the result of the collapse of economic systems and the state defaulting on its welfare and financial obligations to its citizens. The demographic shift means that young workers would have to support a disproportionate number of beneficiaries with one fifth the production of the previous generation. Police, firefighters, soldiers, doctors, teachers, any profession which relies on state support would collapse due to a lack of tax revenue. If it were to happen say, fifty or a hundred years from now, and if you ignore all the social effects, the problem would be somewhat contained. We'd likely have a high degree of automation in production and AI replacing human workers anyways, that the gradual reduction in human contribution wouldn't affect productivity too much. We probably wouldn't have the same rapid economic and societal collapse we see in those dystopian TV shows, nor the hardline political groups that inevitably exploit crises to gain political power.","越晚发生，问题就会越不严重。 在《无子女国》和《使女的故事》中发生的事情是经济系统崩溃和国家不履行对其公民的福利和财务义务所导致的结果。人口结构的转变意味着年轻工人将不得不支持比上一代生产量少五分之一的受益人。警察、消防员、士兵、医生、老师等任何依靠国家支持的职业都会因为缺乏税收而崩溃。 假设这种情况发生在五十或一百年后，而且忽略了所有的社会影响，问题可能会稍微得到缓解。我们很可能会在生产中有很高程度的自动化和人工智能取代人类工人，逐渐减少的人类贡献不会对生产力产生太大影响。我们可能不会看到那些电视节目中那种迅速经济和社会崩溃，也不会有那种必然利用危机来获取政治权力的强硬政治团体。",0 4558,drqdp2s,"now a days with ai is good at increasing number of things for example radiologist, anesthesiologist and eventually doctor and for things like managing stocks and recommending stocks and doing many of the tasks done by all those people in like banks also many government functions also farming, truck driving, flying airplanes, and ships at sea. more and more will go to ai","now a days with ai is good at increasing number of things for example radiologist, anesthesiologist and eventually doctor and for things like managing stocks and recommending stocks and doing many of the tasks done by all those people in like banks also many government functions also farming, truck driving, flying airplanes, and ships at sea. more and more will go to ai","现在，人工智能在很多领域都变得越来越厉害了。 比如说放射科医生、麻醉科医生，最后甚至连医生也会受到影响。 还有像股票管理、推荐股票，还有很多银行工作中需要做的事情，都可以用人工智能来完成。 政府的很多职能也是一样。 还有农业、卡车司机、飞机驾驶员，以及海上船只的工作，越来越多的工作都会转移到人工智能。",1 1254,drr7m0a,"It depends on what you think death is. Their memories are collected and an AI is created with a glass body based on those memories, but the person's organic body still dies. We don't get the impression that the Doctor is a homophobe, only that he's surprised that Bill is a lesbian. Also, some of the misogyny he evidences is lifted straight from his lines in other episodes, so...","It depends on what you think death is. Their memories are collected and an AI is created with a glass body based on those memories, but the person's organic body still dies. We don't get the impression that the Doctor is a homophobe, only that he's surprised that Bill is a lesbian. Also, some of the misogyny he evidences is lifted straight from his lines in other episodes, so...","这取决于你认为死亡是什么。他们的记忆被收集起来，然后用那些记忆创建一个人工智能，并用玻璃做成身体，但这个人的有机身体仍然会死去。 我们不觉得医生是恐同者，只是他对Bill是个女同性恋感到惊讶。另外，他表现出的一些厌恶女性的行为也可以在其他集的台词中找到…",0 3399,drri2b6,"The Doctor has overwhelmed a psychic memory-eating god the size of a star with pure mental power. He's overcome a hostile AI that had control of half of his mind. He defeated an entire species of creatures that can instill memetic controls on people and can't be remembered. The Doctor managed to come up with and enact a plan to break out of a prison over the course of several billion years, despite having his knowledge of the prison completely reset about once every day. A mere simulation of the Doctor managed to figure out he was in a simulation and send warning to the real Doctor. He has fought many extradimensional and multidimensional threats and prevailed. The Doctor has survived being erased from reality. So yeah, I'm not convinced this can beat him.","The Doctor has overwhelmed a psychic memory-eating god the size of a star with pure mental power. He's overcome a hostile AI that had control of half of his mind. He defeated an entire species of creatures that can instill memetic controls on people and can't be remembered. The Doctor managed to come up with and enact a plan to break out of a prison over the course of several billion years, despite having his knowledge of the prison completely reset about once every day. A mere simulation of the Doctor managed to figure out he was in a simulation and send warning to the real Doctor. He has fought many extradimensional and multidimensional threats and prevailed. The Doctor has survived being erased from reality. So yeah, I'm not convinced this can beat him.","这段话说的是博士医生用纯粹的精神力量战胜了一个巨大如恒星般的念力吞噬之神。他克服了一个敌对的人工智能，后者控制了他一半的思想。他击败了一个整个物种，这些生物能够让人们产生模因控制，并且无法被记住。 博士医生设法制定并执行了一个逃离监狱的计划，虽然他对这个监狱的知识每天都会被重置。甚至博士医生的一个仿真体都设法发现自己处于模拟之中，并警告真实的博士医生。他曾经与许多超维度和多维度的威胁作战，并获得了胜利。 博士医生甚至幸存了从现实中被抹去。 所以，是的，我不认为这个可以击败他。",0 2138,drtmw8c,"The factory workers jobs being drastically reduced due to assembly line and robotics and heavy machinery eventually morphed the US manufacturing industry into a service economy. Banks, investment banks, insurance companies, risk management, lottery management, all forms of law, medicine, patents, traditional media, advertising, education etc. The majority of those jobs were too complex for robots to do. However now with the rise of software robots, many of the jobs are now being able to be done by robots. Insurance companies don't need as many case officers, underwriters, dispatch officers. Banks don't need as many tellers, loan officers etc. Newspapers have robots capable of writing stories as well as journalists do. Law firms are able to cut their expensive support staff with some amazing software and AI modules. Even in medicine the use of computers like IBM Watson has increased the accuracy and efficiency with which doctors make assessments, therefore less need for doctors. All these persons now would not be needed to keep the robots running, and there is no other industry to morph to. Some manufacturing may come back but robots will still rule the factory floor. Things are going to get bleak soon.","The factory workers jobs being drastically reduced due to assembly line and robotics and heavy machinery eventually morphed the US manufacturing industry into a service economy. Banks, investment banks, insurance companies, risk management, lottery management, all forms of law, medicine, patents, traditional media, advertising, education etc. The majority of those jobs were too complex for robots to do. However now with the rise of software robots, many of the jobs are now being able to be done by robots. Insurance companies don't need as many case officers, underwriters, dispatch officers. Banks don't need as many tellers, loan officers etc. Newspapers have robots capable of writing stories as well as journalists do. Law firms are able to cut their expensive support staff with some amazing software and AI modules. Even in medicine the use of computers like IBM Watson has increased the accuracy and efficiency with which doctors make assessments, therefore less need for doctors. All these persons now would not be needed to keep the robots running, and there is no other industry to morph to. Some manufacturing may come back but robots will still rule the factory floor. Things are going to get bleak soon.","工厂工人的工作因为流水线、机器人和重型机械的大幅减少最终将美国制造业变成了服务经济。 银行、投资银行、保险公司、风险管理、彩票管理、各种形式的法律、医药、专利、传统媒体、广告、教育等等。这些工作大多对机器人来说太复杂了。 然而现在随着软件机器人的崛起，许多工作现在都能被机器人做了。 保险公司不需要那么多的案件工作人员、承保人员、调度员。 银行也不需要那么多的出纳员、贷款员等等。 报纸上有能够像新闻记者一样写故事的机器人。 律师事务所能够通过一些令人惊叹的软件和人工智能模块削减昂贵的支持人员。 甚至在医学领域，像IBM Watson这样的计算机的使用增加了医生进行评估的准确性和效率，因此医生的需求减少了。 现在所有这些人都不再需要来让机器人运转，而且也没有其他产业可以转型。一些制造业可能会复兴，但机器人仍然会主宰工厂。情况很快就会变得很糟糕。",1 1740,drx9rut,"I was actually hoping the increased DHT might raise my libido. Also I've heard Doctor Shippen stating that the perfect protocol would simulate the body's natural production by using gel, HCG, AI and DHEA supplement but I agree the gels are far less convenient. I've done a fair amount of research since my treatment. Liver function test came back normal, cortisol was high but in range. The only other things I can think of: - Cortisol actually very high (last test inaccurate) - Low stomach acid causing poor mineral absorption (would explain low Zinc and Vit D) - Gut issue - Crohns's or celiac disease The thing that makes me question whether I'm looking too far into it is the fact I had 2 major head traumas as a child (fractured skull) and I have experienced multiple symptoms since my early teens. Makes me think my pituitary just isn't functioning properly.","I was actually hoping the increased DHT might raise my libido. Also I've heard Doctor Shippen stating that the perfect protocol would simulate the body's natural production by using gel, HCG, AI and DHEA supplement but I agree the gels are far less convenient. I've done a fair amount of research since my treatment. Liver function test came back normal, cortisol was high but in range. The only other things I can think of: - Cortisol actually very high (last test inaccurate) - Low stomach acid causing poor mineral absorption (would explain low Zinc and Vit D) - Gut issue - Crohns's or celiac disease The thing that makes me question whether I'm looking too far into it is the fact I had 2 major head traumas as a child (fractured skull) and I have experienced multiple symptoms since my early teens. Makes me think my pituitary just isn't functioning properly.","我其实希望增加的DHT能提高我的性欲。我也听过舍彭医生说过，最完美的方案是使用凝胶、HCG、AI和DHEA补充剂来模拟身体的自然产生，但是我同意凝胶并不那么方便。 自从治疗以来，我做了大量的研究。肝功能测试显示正常，皮质醇有点偏高但在正常范围内。我能想到的唯一其他问题是： - 皮质醇实际上很高（上次测试不准确） - 胃酸低导致矿物质吸收不良（可以解释低锌和维生素D） - 肠道问题 - 克罗恩病或莎病 让我怀疑我是否过于深究的是，我小时候曾经两次重擦头部（颅骨骨折），自从青少年早期我就经历了多种症状。这让我觉得我的垂体功能可能存在问题。",0 2441,drxhx41,"A toaster is just a tool like a wrench or a screwdriver. Toasters are completely dependent on human input to preform the task that they were designed for. The thing that sets a medical droid apart from another tool like a scalpel or a syringe is artificial intelligence and ability to have the entirety of medical knowledge at it's disposal. I don't need my surgeon to have flesh and bone hands if he has better control and more knowledge than a real person could ever hope to have. In answer to your question, yes, I would trust my life to a machine, but not just any machine. ","A toaster is just a tool like a wrench or a screwdriver. Toasters are completely dependent on human input to preform the task that they were designed for. The thing that sets a medical droid apart from another tool like a scalpel or a syringe is artificial intelligence and ability to have the entirety of medical knowledge at it's disposal. I don't need my surgeon to have flesh and bone hands if he has better control and more knowledge than a real person could ever hope to have. In answer to your question, yes, I would trust my life to a machine, but not just any machine.",烤面包机就像扳手或螺丝刀一样，是一个工具。烤面包机完全依赖人类输入来执行它们设计的任务。医疗机器人与其他工具（比如手术刀或注射器）的不同之处在于它具有人工智能并且能够掌握全部的医学知识。如果我的外科医生拥有比真人更好的控制和更多的知识，我就不需要他有肉体的手。回答你的问题，是的，我会相信我的生命交给一台机器，但不是任何机器。,1 873,drxtko5,"Uh,... I too used to be a photographer. But that's outside the point. :) I am very, very, **very** concerned with passing. And while I'm still at the ""downwards selfie"" phase, and yes I did run my mug through FA, I don't want to give myself false expectations. I am lined up for FFS next year, and I've got a pretty big bill coming up for that. Some 30,000 or so. (Canadian so no FFS coverage.) I know for a fact that FFS and FaceApp are worlds apart, and no surgeon could do whatever that app is doing. There's only this much bone they can shave, this much implant they can put in, and basically a fixed set of parameters the doctors can work on. I definitely wouldn't compare that to an AI-driven Liquify app... Of course, if the differences between your natural look and FaceApp are minimal, then yes, it's a good inspiration source. And just for anecdotal value, the differences between me in FaceApp before laser and after the first session (minimal to no shadow) are like night and day. Not one better or worse than another, just very very different.","Uh,... I too used to be a photographer. But that's outside the point. :) I am very, very, very concerned with passing. And while I'm still at the ""downwards selfie"" phase, and yes I did run my mug through FA, I don't want to give myself false expectations. I am lined up for FFS next year, and I've got a pretty big bill coming up for that. Some 30,000 or so. (Canadian so no FFS coverage.) I know for a fact that FFS and FaceApp are worlds apart, and no surgeon could do whatever that app is doing. There's only this much bone they can shave, this much implant they can put in, and basically a fixed set of parameters the doctors can work on. I definitely wouldn't compare that to an AI-driven Liquify app... Of course, if the differences between your natural look and FaceApp are minimal, then yes, it's a good inspiration source. And just for anecdotal value, the differences between me in FaceApp before laser and after the first session (minimal to no shadow) are like night and day. Not one better or worse than another, just very very different.","呃，... 我以前也是一名摄影师。但这跟问题点不太相关。 :) 我非常非常**非常**在意过渡。虽然我仍然处于“向下自拍”阶段，是的，我确实通过人工智能应用检测过我的脸，但我不想给自己错误的期望。 我已经计划明年接受FFS手术，为此我将面临巨额的费用，大约30,000加币。（加拿大没有FFS保险）我确切知道FFS和FaceApp之间的差距，没有任何一位外科医生能够做到应用程序所能实现的效果。医生只能对骨头做这么多修剪，植入这么多东西，可以处理的参数基本上是固定的。 我肯定不会把这与由人工智能驱动的Liquify应用程序进行比较...... 当然，如果你的自然外貌与FaceApp的差异很小，那么是的，它是一个很好的灵感来源。 只是作为一个轶事，我在激光脱毛之前和第一次治疗后在FaceApp中的差异（影子减少到几乎没有）就像天壤之别。没有一个比另一个更好或更差，只是非常非常不同。",1 1760,dryvqvq,"> And the Turing machine that simulates a human brain does not need to be a literal 'Turing machine' in the sense of scrolling tapes. That's not really the issue. It still remains that simply stating ""a computer _could_ do it"" gives no bounds on the size of the necessary computer, and that computer could be necessarily that constructing it would be literally impossible. Take chess for example. It is technically possible for an algorithm to play chess 'perfectly'. That is, if it's at all possible to win from a certain position it will win. If it's possible to force a tie it will tie. In particular if white/black has a winning strategy then the computer would _always_ win when playing that color. While there's no proof that we can do actually do it. Even with a computer the size of the universe. Suppose you tried the most 'obvious' algorithm where you simply listed every possible chess position and the 'correct move' to do in that position. Claude Shannon gave 10^120 as a conservative lower bound on the number of entries this list would need to have. But there are 10^80 atoms in the universe. So unless you can find some way to store 10^40 bits of information on every atom in the universe [(which may genuinely defy the laws of physics)](https://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=3327), then using this algorithm is literally impossible. If someone wants to build an algorithm that plays chess perfectly they'll have to be much more clever about it. The same thing for brains. > Most people in the field of artificial intelligence believe that it's theoretically possible to simulate a human brain using less wattage than an actual human brain consumes and with a smaller 'device' than a human brain... Given due time of course. You really shouldn't take the opinions of researchers in artificial intelligence when it comes to brain simulations. That'd be like asking the developers of Civilization for their opinion on the state of the economy. It's simply not their field of expertise. What would be interesting is if neurologists generally felt that we could simulate the human brain (or at least all the aspects of it they study). And I haven't seen any neurologists make such claims. And I know of at least [one biologist](https://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2012/07/14/and-everyone-gets-a-robot-pony/) who seems very doubtful that we could. ","gt; And the Turing machine that simulates a human brain does not need to be a literal 'Turing machine' in the sense of scrolling tapes. That's not really the issue. It still remains that simply stating ""a computer could do it"" gives no bounds on the size of the necessary computer, and that computer could be necessarily that constructing it would be literally impossible. Take chess for example. It is technically possible for an algorithm to play chess 'perfectly'. That is, if it's at all possible to win from a certain position it will win. If it's possible to force a tie it will tie. In particular if whiteblack has a winning strategy then the computer would always win when playing that color. While there's no proof that we can do actually do it. Even with a computer the size of the universe. Suppose you tried the most 'obvious' algorithm where you simply listed every possible chess position and the 'correct move' to do in that position. Claude Shannon gave 10120 as a conservative lower bound on the number of entries this list would need to have. But there are 1080 atoms in the universe. So unless you can find some way to store 1040 bits of information on every atom in the universe (which may genuinely defy the laws of physics)(https:www.scottaaronson.comblog?p3327), then using this algorithm is literally impossible. If someone wants to build an algorithm that plays chess perfectly they'll have to be much more clever about it. The same thing for brains. gt; Most people in the field of artificial intelligence believe that it's theoretically possible to simulate a human brain using less wattage than an actual human brain consumes and with a smaller 'device' than a human brain... Given due time of course. You really shouldn't take the opinions of researchers in artificial intelligence when it comes to brain simulations. That'd be like asking the developers of Civilization for their opinion on the state of the economy. It's simply not their field of expertise. What would be interesting is if neurologists generally felt that we could simulate the human brain (or at least all the aspects of it they study). And I haven't seen any neurologists make such claims. And I know of at least one biologist(https:freethoughtblogs.compharyngula20120714and-everyone-gets-a-robot-pony) who seems very doubtful that we could.","嗯，模拟人脑的图灵机不需要字面上的“图灵机”，即纸带滚动之类的概念。 这不是真正的问题。问题还是，简单地说“计算机 _可能_ 可以做到”并没有界定所需计算机的大小，而且可能需要构建的计算机大小可能会使得它真的无法存在。 以国际象棋为例。从技术上讲，算法可以“完美地”下国际象棋。也就是说，如果从某个位置有可能赢，它就会赢。如果有可能打成平局，它就会打成平局。特别情况下，如果白色/黑色有一种获胜的策略，那么计算机下那种颜色的时候将总是赢。尽管我们并没有证据表明我们实际上能够这样做。即使使用宇宙那么大的计算机。 假如你尝试了最“显而易见”的算法，即简单地列出每一种可能的国际象棋局面和在那一位置的“正确走法”。克劳德·香农给出的这个列表需要的最小估计值是10^120。但宇宙中有10^80个原子。因此，除非你能找到一种方式在宇宙中的每个原子上存储10^40位信息（这可能真的违反了物理法则），使用这种算法就是不可能的。 如果有人想要构建一个能完美下国际象棋的算法，他们必须更聪明一些。同样的情况也适用于模拟大脑。 大多数人工智能领域的人认为，从理论上讲，模拟人脑的功耗可以比实际人脑耗电要少，并且需要比人脑更小的“设备”…当然，需要给出合适的时间。 当涉及到大脑模拟时，你真的不应该单单听人工智能研究人员的意见。那就像向文明游戏的开发人员询问经济状态一样。这根本不是他们的专业领域。有趣的是神经学家是否普遍认为我们能够模拟人脑（或者至少他们研究的所有方面）。我并没有看到任何神经学家做出这样的主张。我知道至少有[一个生物学家](https://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2012/07/14/and-everyone-gets-a-robot-pony/)对此非常怀疑。",0 316,dryz8np,"I definitely see what you're saying. But it's a simple fact that the brain exists, and it does what it does, so the human brain is not a physical impossibility. It seems to me that it's more an issue of how you frame problem solving. There are master chess playing humans out there, of course none that can defeat the best chess algorithm. These people do not need to consider all 10^120 potential options. The 'algorithm' of the brain has some significantly different and not fully understood way of solving problems. If we seek to replicate the structure of a human brain digitally, I don't see why this digital brain would be incapable of doing these same tasks as the brain that it is identical to in every way (save for the fact that it's not made of flesh). Though I really have no expertise on the matter, if a human brain (which is entirely physical) can perform a task. A computer should also be able to perform that same task. It almost feels like appealing to the supernatural to claim that we can replicate what a brain does. Suppose we could literally 'copy' and 'paste' every single atom of a brain maintaining it's structure. It would be a perfect replica of that brain. Is there any reason to believe this can't be done, or that it can't be done digitally? And I wouldn't necessarily consult just a neurologist for this sort of information either. It is every amount out of their field of research as it is for an artificial intelligence researcher. The ideal would obviously be opinions from both respective fields as they significantly overlap on the topic of brain simulation. ","I definitely see what you're saying. But it's a simple fact that the brain exists, and it does what it does, so the human brain is not a physical impossibility. It seems to me that it's more an issue of how you frame problem solving. There are master chess playing humans out there, of course none that can defeat the best chess algorithm. These people do not need to consider all 10120 potential options. The 'algorithm' of the brain has some significantly different and not fully understood way of solving problems. If we seek to replicate the structure of a human brain digitally, I don't see why this digital brain would be incapable of doing these same tasks as the brain that it is identical to in every way (save for the fact that it's not made of flesh). Though I really have no expertise on the matter, if a human brain (which is entirely physical) can perform a task. A computer should also be able to perform that same task. It almost feels like appealing to the supernatural to claim that we can replicate what a brain does. Suppose we could literally 'copy' and 'paste' every single atom of a brain maintaining it's structure. It would be a perfect replica of that brain. Is there any reason to believe this can't be done, or that it can't be done digitally? And I wouldn't necessarily consult just a neurologist for this sort of information either. It is every amount out of their field of research as it is for an artificial intelligence researcher. The ideal would obviously be opinions from both respective fields as they significantly overlap on the topic of brain simulation.","我明白你在说什么。但大脑存在是一种事实，它会做它该做的事，所以人类大脑并非不可能存在。 在我看来，问题更多是如何解决问题的方式。世界上有很多高手下国际象棋，当然没有人能击败最好的国际象棋算法。这些人不需要考虑所有10^120种可能的选择。大脑的“算法”有着一种明显不同且不完全被理解的方式来解决问题。 如果我们试图在数字上复制人脑的结构，我不明白为什么这个数字大脑就做不到和每个方面都完全相同的大脑一样的任务（除了它不是由肉体构成）。 尽管我对这个问题并没有专业知识，但如果人脑（完全是物质的）能完成一个任务。计算机也应该能够完成同样的任务。 声称我们能复制大脑的功能，几乎感觉就像是神奇力量。 假设我们可以字面上“复制”和“粘贴”大脑的每一个原子，维持它的结构。那将是那个大脑的完美复制。有理由相信这是不可能做到的吗，或者它不能通过数字方式做到吗？ 我也不一定只会咨询神经学家来获取这种信息。这对于他们的研究领域来说可能有些超出范围，就像对于人工智能研究人员一样。 理想情况显而易见，是从两个领域的专家那里得到意见，因为他们在大脑模拟的话题上有显著的重叠。",0 3577,ds12gcc,"Black Mirror is so good at just making you feel awful, but it's thought provoking and keeps me coming back for more. The other episode that for me is on the same level as Playtest was the episode with the home AI assistant. The AI was based off of your own brain, so it'd know all of your quirks and desires. Then they show the AI perspective. You go to the doctor to get your brain scan for your new home AI, you go to sleep, and then you wake up in a disembodied state, scared and confused, and now you're being told you're a slave to the real you.","Black Mirror is so good at just making you feel awful, but it's thought provoking and keeps me coming back for more. The other episode that for me is on the same level as Playtest was the episode with the home AI assistant. The AI was based off of your own brain, so it'd know all of your quirks and desires. Then they show the AI perspective. You go to the doctor to get your brain scan for your new home AI, you go to sleep, and then you wake up in a disembodied state, scared and confused, and now you're being told you're a slave to the real you.","《黑镜》真的很擅长让你感觉糟糕，但它引发了思考，让我一次又一次地回来观看。 对我来说，像《游戏测试》一样水平的另一集是那一集有家庭AI助手的剧集。这个AI是基于你自己的大脑构建的，所以它会了解你所有的怪癖和欲望。 然后他们展示了AI的视角。你去看医生为了给你的新家庭AI进行大脑扫描，然后你去睡觉，接着你醒来时是一个非实体状态，又害怕又困惑，现在你被告知你是真实的你的奴隶。",0 4511,ds1z1mg,"Very much. I think the show lost a lot of its ""feel"" when it went to Netflix (that, or I have an odd relationship to shows with all-English characters). It has not felt as bleak since Season 2. But also, a lot of the social changes they explore are (imo) a little too advanced too often (which makes it seem much more like weird magic plot devices), and they've gotten either lazier or more afraid of more clearly discussing larger social changes, possibly because they want to connect the universes. 15 Million Merits raised a lot of questions about what the society was like, but also illustrated answers (society is very unequal, some people have to grind for their needs, food scarcity is enforced for a segment of the population, etc.). In contrast, a lot of the stories this season were self-contained. Black Museum (I think) attempted to illustrate what society was like because of ArkAngel, DNA ""uploads"", etc. but didn't flesh out each individual topic sufficiently. There is much less fear of technology taking over society, taking over our own individual lives. There was also a lot more civilian / everyday / implementation when they could have done so much more. The end of Black Museum could have been it's own story, perhaps about the prison industry, or about POWs, or something. Or hell, human experimentation on feeling AI would be insane, but they kinda just made the doctor a boring asshole. I recently watched a show where they kept on performing open heart surgery with VR tools until the patient lived. A ""living"" biopsy with an AI human would be brutal.","Very much. I think the show lost a lot of its ""feel"" when it went to Netflix (that, or I have an odd relationship to shows with all-English characters). It has not felt as bleak since Season 2. But also, a lot of the social changes they explore are (imo) a little too advanced too often (which makes it seem much more like weird magic plot devices), and they've gotten either lazier or more afraid of more clearly discussing larger social changes, possibly because they want to connect the universes. 15 Million Merits raised a lot of questions about what the society was like, but also illustrated answers (society is very unequal, some people have to grind for their needs, food scarcity is enforced for a segment of the population, etc.). In contrast, a lot of the stories this season were self-contained. Black Museum (I think) attempted to illustrate what society was like because of ArkAngel, DNA ""uploads"", etc. but didn't flesh out each individual topic sufficiently. There is much less fear of technology taking over society, taking over our own individual lives. There was also a lot more civilian everyday implementation when they could have done so much more. The end of Black Museum could have been it's own story, perhaps about the prison industry, or about POWs, or something. Or hell, human experimentation on feeling AI would be insane, but they kinda just made the doctor a boring asshole. I recently watched a show where they kept on performing open heart surgery with VR tools until the patient lived. A ""living"" biopsy with an AI human would be brutal.","非常。我觉得这个剧在转到Netflix后失去了很多它原有的感觉（或者说我对纯英文角色的剧有点怪癖）。自从第二季以来，它就不再感觉那么暗淡了。 但是，他们探讨的社会变化在我看来有时候太先进了（这让它看起来更像是怪异的魔法情节），而且他们变得要么懒惰，要么更害怕更清楚地讨论更广泛的社会变化，可能是因为他们想要连接不同的宇宙。《一千五百万美元》引发了很多对社会的疑问，但也说明了答案（社会是非常不平等的，有些人必须为自己的需求奋斗，食物的稀缺被强加给了一部分人口等）。相比之下，本季的很多故事都是独立的。 《黑色博物馆》（我想是）试图说明ArkAngel、DNA“上传”等对社会的影响，但并没有充分展开每个主题。对科技控制社会的恐惧要少得多，对科技控制我们个人的生活的恐惧也要少得多。当他们本可以做得更多时，出现了更多的民用/日常/实施。《黑色博物馆》的结局本来可以成为它自己的故事，也许是关于监狱工业，或关于战俘，或其他什么。或者，天啊，对有感情的AI进行人体实验会很荒谬，但他们却把医生变成了一个很无聊的混蛋。最近我看了一部剧，其中一直在用VR工具进行心脏手术，直到病人活下来。使用AI人体进行“活着的”活检会很残酷。",0 4079,ds3z93v,"I'd have to disagree, as if they were considered to be 100% equal to humans in that universe, then he didn't actually rape them, the most he did was kidnap an kiss, rape would be actual rape. As for if they do have rights in that universe and assuming all the black mirror universes are connected, then what about the cookie lady that was tortured and imprisoned forever to be that one ladies personal assistant. And that criminals who had the cookie extracted and was tortured in a cabin forever In fact I had no even remembered those, you jogged my memory and I have to thank you, as I was just playing devils advocate with ""did meth damon do anything wrong"" but now that you mention it, in that universe, it seems to be accepted that cookies have no rights and can be slaves and tortured and imprisoned. As in the example with that personal assistant lady cookie, there was a whole company built on creating that service, a whole society that accepts it, there were doctors, who one would think are ethical and moral that performed that procedure who knew they were extracting what would becoming a ""sentient slave"". So really, either they have no rights or are not seen as sentient or as nothing more than really evolved AI Sims that it is ok to torture and do sadistic video game type things towards.","I'd have to disagree, as if they were considered to be 100 equal to humans in that universe, then he didn't actually rape them, the most he did was kidnap an kiss, rape would be actual rape. As for if they do have rights in that universe and assuming all the black mirror universes are connected, then what about the cookie lady that was tortured and imprisoned forever to be that one ladies personal assistant. And that criminals who had the cookie extracted and was tortured in a cabin forever In fact I had no even remembered those, you jogged my memory and I have to thank you, as I was just playing devils advocate with ""did meth damon do anything wrong"" but now that you mention it, in that universe, it seems to be accepted that cookies have no rights and can be slaves and tortured and imprisoned. As in the example with that personal assistant lady cookie, there was a whole company built on creating that service, a whole society that accepts it, there were doctors, who one would think are ethical and moral that performed that procedure who knew they were extracting what would becoming a ""sentient slave"". So really, either they have no rights or are not seen as sentient or as nothing more than really evolved AI Sims that it is ok to torture and do sadistic video game type things towards.","我得不同意，如果在那个宇宙里他们被认为是和人类100%相等的话，那么他其实并没有强奸她们，他最多是绑架了一下亲吻了一下，强奸才是真正的强奸。 至于在那个宇宙里他们是否拥有权利，假设所有黑镜的宇宙都是相连的，那么那个被虐待并永远囚禁成一位女士的私人助手的曲奇，那些从曲奇身上提取信息并在小屋里永远受折磨的罪犯呢？ 事实上我甚至都没记得那些事，你提醒了我，我得感谢你，因为我之前只是在为“梅斯·达蒙做错了什么”做反对者，但现在你提到的情况，在那个宇宙里，似乎是被接受的，曲奇没有权利，可以成为奴隶、受到虐待和囚禁。比如那个私人助手女士曲奇的例子，整个公司都是建立在提供这种服务上的，整个社会都接受了这一点，还有医生，理应具有道德和道德的医生，进行了那种程序，他们明知道他们提取的东西会成为一个“有意识的奴隶”。 总而言之，要么他们没有权利，要么他们不被视为有意识，或者不过是非常进化的人工智能模拟，可以被虐待和进行邪恶的视频游戏类型的行为。",0 1664,ds5ojqn,"This is good advice. Also, to OP, ""3-5"" hydros a day, assuming they are 5mg, isn't really ""a lot"" if you are in real pain. Doctors have massively overreacted to the so called over-prescription epidemic, and demonized opiates, the only viable class of painkiller. That said, ask your doc if you can get an APAP(tylenol) free version to save your liver from more potential damage. I'm assuming you are taking more than prescribed though, and getting a 20/30mg extended release oxy replacement might not be possible. I think you may need an anti-inflammatory in the absence of APAP though, and unfortunately most AI meds are not good for liver. But it would be better than how much APAP you are taking. Maybe have your doctor do a test run of muscle relaxer such as cyclobenzaprine it see if that alleviates need for AI/some painkiller. ","This is good advice. Also, to OP, ""3-5"" hydros a day, assuming they are 5mg, isn't really ""a lot"" if you are in real pain. Doctors have massively overreacted to the so called over-prescription epidemic, and demonized opiates, the only viable class of painkiller. That said, ask your doc if you can get an APAP(tylenol) free version to save your liver from more potential damage. I'm assuming you are taking more than prescribed though, and getting a 2030mg extended release oxy replacement might not be possible. I think you may need an anti-inflammatory in the absence of APAP though, and unfortunately most AI meds are not good for liver. But it would be better than how much APAP you are taking. Maybe have your doctor do a test run of muscle relaxer such as cyclobenzaprine it see if that alleviates need for AIsome painkiller.","这是个好建议。而且，对楼主来说，“每天3-5片”羟考酮，假设它们是5毫克，如果你真的很疼，其实并不算“太多”。医生们对所谓的滥用处方药物的流行大肆反应过度，并妖魔化阿片类药物，这是唯一有效的止痛药物类别。话虽如此，还是建议你问问你的医生，是否能够用不含对乙酰氨基酚（泰诺）的版本，以避免更多潜在的肝脏损伤。 不过，我猜你可能服用的量比处方更多，可能不太可能得到20/30毫克的缓释咪唑酮替代品。我认为在没有对乙酰氨基酚的情况下，你可能需要使用一种抗炎药，而不幸的是，大多数的抗炎药对肝脏不好。但这比你服用那么多对乙酰氨基酚要好。也许可以让医生试试肌肉松弛剂，比如环苯扎贝啡，看看是否能减轻对抗炎或某些止痛药物的需求。",0 4658,ds8sx1l,"Tony Stark was seemingly beaten into a coma in Civil War 2, but since he is always his own greatest threat, he had several AI backups of his personality saved in various places. One of those AI versions of him took up with Riri Williams, an MIT student who had been building her own version of armor because she looked up to Stark since childhood. Doctor Doom took over as Iron Man, and he's got all kinds of weirdness going on. AI Stark has been mentoring Williams as Iron Heart, which she kind of sucks at, while his mother and Mary Jane Watson try to keep his company from a hostile takeover, and all trying to restore Tony's body. AI Stark apparently has some nefarious hidden agenda, and it's rearing up fast. So, Stark wasn't turned into or replaced with a black girl, he was replaced with a Gypsy technowizard/despot/occasional god, but that doesn't trigger conservative dog whistles. Their biggest problems are the lack of coherent events, as writers dismiss each other's continuity; pricing is ridiculously high; and poor choices in new writers from outside the field (Gabby Rivera being the worst, but even R. L. Stine was a travesty, and he's a very successful author).","Tony Stark was seemingly beaten into a coma in Civil War 2, but since he is always his own greatest threat, he had several AI backups of his personality saved in various places. One of those AI versions of him took up with Riri Williams, an MIT student who had been building her own version of armor because she looked up to Stark since childhood. Doctor Doom took over as Iron Man, and he's got all kinds of weirdness going on. AI Stark has been mentoring Williams as Iron Heart, which she kind of sucks at, while his mother and Mary Jane Watson try to keep his company from a hostile takeover, and all trying to restore Tony's body. AI Stark apparently has some nefarious hidden agenda, and it's rearing up fast. So, Stark wasn't turned into or replaced with a black girl, he was replaced with a Gypsy technowizarddespotoccasional god, but that doesn't trigger conservative dog whistles. Their biggest problems are the lack of coherent events, as writers dismiss each other's continuity; pricing is ridiculously high; and poor choices in new writers from outside the field (Gabby Rivera being the worst, but even R. L. Stine was a travesty, and he's a very successful author).","托尼斯塔克似乎在《内战2》中被打成昏迷，但由于他总是自己最大的威胁，他在各个地方保存了几个人格的AI备份。其中一个他的AI版本与麻省理工学院的学生Riri Williams合作，她自小就把斯塔克当成偶像，一直在建造自己的盔甲。多姆博士接替了钢铁侠的位置，发生了各种奇怪的事情。AI史塔克一直在指导威廉姆斯成为“钢铁之心”，但她在这方面有点糟糕，而他的母亲和玛丽·简·沃森则试图阻止公司被敌意收购，同时努力恢复托尼的身体。看来AI斯塔克似乎有一些不良的隐藏计划，而且现在正在快速浮出水面。因此，斯塔克并没有变成一个黑人女孩，而是被一个吉普赛科技巫师/专制者/偶尔的神灵替换，但这不会引起保守派的耳语。 他们最大的问题是事件缺乏连贯性，作家们互相忽视对方的连续性；价格高得离谱；以及从行业外纳入新作者做出了糟糕的选择（最糟糕的是加比·里韦拉，但甚至R·L·斯坦也是一个灾难，尽管他是非常成功的作家）。",0 3096,dsd2jta,"I have concerns regarding what ""top venues"" means given that many data scientists work in different fields, not everyone is in ""general"" ML or AI. Many work along economists, physicists, psychologists or doctors. What if one publish at big journals in either of those field and let say that they have both methodological (ML approach) and experimental (ML applied analysis) first-author papers. Will this ever count as ""top venues""? Or will this be ignored since the committee won't have any idea of what those journals are and they will seek someone more similar to them that work in AI?","I have concerns regarding what ""top venues"" means given that many data scientists work in different fields, not everyone is in ""general"" ML or AI. Many work along economists, physicists, psychologists or doctors. What if one publish at big journals in either of those field and let say that they have both methodological (ML approach) and experimental (ML applied analysis) first-author papers. Will this ever count as ""top venues""? Or will this be ignored since the committee won't have any idea of what those journals are and they will seek someone more similar to them that work in AI?",我对“顶级期刊”指的是什么有些担忧，因为许多数据科学家在不同的领域工作，不是每个人都从事“常规”的机器学习或人工智能。许多人与经济学家、物理学家、心理学家或医生一起工作。如果某人在这些领域的顶级期刊上发表了论文，并且论文包括了方法论（机器学习方法）和实验性（机器学习应用分析）的第一作者论文，这会被视为“顶级期刊”吗？还是因为评审委员会不知道这些期刊是什么，他们会寻找更与他们相似的从事人工智能工作的人而忽略这些论文呢？,0 2296,dsdbu6a,"Easiest solution would be to drop your dose of testosterone in small increments until you find the spot where you don't need an AI, but still maintain solid TT and FT levels. Very doable for most men. Were these labs taken before you added the AI? How many days post injection were these labs drawn? If you want to continue with the Aromasin, I'd back off the dose considerably. 25mg/day is *insanely* high, nothing good will come from that. Even 12.5mg eod is surely going to be too much. I'd go with 12.5mg twice per week *(which I think will likely still be too high)*, and then use your follow up labs to titrate your dose from there. Realistically I think you'll only need something along the lines of 12.5mg every 4 or 5 days, or maybe even 25mg once per week. Tough to say without knowing the above info about the labs you posted. Remember, men NEED estradiol, so the goal shouldn't be to drive it super low. That'll create issues for most men. *Also, it's important that you take your Aromasin with fats*. It's efficacy is reduced considerably when taken without fats. Also, your thyroid looks a little funky as well. Was your doctor not concerned about that?","Easiest solution would be to drop your dose of testosterone in small increments until you find the spot where you don't need an AI, but still maintain solid TT and FT levels. Very doable for most men. Were these labs taken before you added the AI? How many days post injection were these labs drawn? If you want to continue with the Aromasin, I'd back off the dose considerably. 25mgday is insanely high, nothing good will come from that. Even 12.5mg eod is surely going to be too much. I'd go with 12.5mg twice per week (which I think will likely still be too high), and then use your follow up labs to titrate your dose from there. Realistically I think you'll only need something along the lines of 12.5mg every 4 or 5 days, or maybe even 25mg once per week. Tough to say without knowing the above info about the labs you posted. Remember, men NEED estradiol, so the goal shouldn't be to drive it super low. That'll create issues for most men. Also, it's important that you take your Aromasin with fats. It's efficacy is reduced considerably when taken without fats. Also, your thyroid looks a little funky as well. Was your doctor not concerned about that?","最简单的解决方法是逐渐减少睾酮剂量，直到找到一个不需要使用人工智能的位置，但仍能保持稳定的总睾酮和游离睾酮水平。对大多数男性来说非常可行。 这些化验是在你加入人工智能之前进行的吗？这些化验是注射后的多少天进行的？ 如果你想继续使用Aromasin，我建议大幅减少剂量。每天25毫克实在是太高了，没有任何好处。即使每隔一天服用12.5毫克也肯定太多了。我建议每周两次服用12.5毫克（我认为这可能仍然太高），然后根据后续的化验结果调整剂量。实际上，我认为你只需要每4或5天服用12.5毫克，甚至每周一次服用25毫克。不知道你提供的化验信息之前很难说。 记住，男性需要雌二醇，所以目标不应该是将其降低到非常低的水平。这样做会给大多数男性带来问题。而且，重要的是你服用Aromasin的时候要搭配脂肪。如果不搭配脂肪，它的功效会大大降低。 另外，你的甲状腺看起来也有些问题。你的医生对此没有担心吗？",0 3947,dsfhmey,"I definitely stand corrected then on the paralegal research vs lawyer research. From my exposure to AI in medicine (worked on some AI research in genomic research) I don't think im drastically underestimating anything at all. Please feel free to direct me to ongoing projects that would change my opinion. The huge difference between legal work vs medical work in the US is the fact that there is a saturation of lawyers but a scarcity (poor distribution) of doctors due to residency slots being regulated by Congress. Perhaps that's another reason why I'm a little conservative relative to othera on the ""replacement of doctors by AI"" thing that gets said often in these discussions.",I definitely stand corrected then on the paralegal research vs lawyer research. From my exposure to AI in medicine (worked on some AI research in genomic research) I don't think im drastically underestimating anything at all. Please feel free to direct me to ongoing projects that would change my opinion. The huge difference between legal work vs medical work in the US is the fact that there is a saturation of lawyers but a scarcity (poor distribution) of doctors due to residency slots being regulated by Congress. Perhaps that's another reason why I'm a little conservative relative to othera on the "replacement of doctors by AI" thing that gets said often in these discussions.,"那么，对于法律助理研究和律师研究，我肯定改变了我的看法。 就我对医学人工智能的了解（参与了一些基因组研究的人工智能研究），我认为我并没有严重低估任何事情。 如果有正在进行的项目可以改变我的看法，请随时告诉我。在美国，法律工作和医学工作之间的巨大差异在于，律师数量很多，但由于住院名额受到国会监管，医生却很少（分布不均）。也许这就是为什么相对于其他人来说，我对于“人工智能取代医生”的观点有点保守的另一个原因。这种观点在这些讨论中经常被提到。",1 3781,dsfzsb2,For now. Twenty years ago nobody used the internet. Now a billion people have a super computer with gps navigation and hd video streaming in their pockets. Now there are cars that drive themselves better than we do. Robots that perform surgery without human interaction. Doctor-patient interaction will end in the next few decades as it becomes apparent that computers with AI much smarter than human doctors.,For now. Twenty years ago nobody used the internet. Now a billion people have a super computer with gps navigation and hd video streaming in their pockets. Now there are cars that drive themselves better than we do. Robots that perform surgery without human interaction. Doctor-patient interaction will end in the next few decades as it becomes apparent that computers with AI much smarter than human doctors.,到目前为止。二十年前没人用互联网。现在十亿人口袋里都有一台带有GPS导航和高清视频流的超级计算机。现在有些车比我们开得更好，可以自动驾驶。还有机器人可以在没有人类干预的情况下进行手术。在接下来的几十年内，医患交流将会结束，因为人们会意识到，拥有比人类医生聪明得多的人工智能的电脑。,1 1649,dsfzzub,"Obviously you don't understand technology and AI software. If it's possible to program AI to do the work of doctors, lawyers, and accountants you would think they would be able to do any forseeable job. Also the whole world can't do those new niche jobs that are created by automation and AI.","Obviously you don't understand technology and AI software. If it's possible to program AI to do the work of doctors, lawyers, and accountants you would think they would be able to do any forseeable job. Also the whole world can't do those new niche jobs that are created by automation and AI.",显然你不懂科技和人工智能软件。如果可以编程人工智能来代替医生、律师和会计，你会觉得它们应该能够做任何可以预见的工作。而且全世界也无法做那些由自动化和人工智能所创建的新的小众工作。,1 2455,dshpzvw,"Namaste partnered with a firm in Sweden to create in-house AI software that improved their conversion rate on Australian Vapes from 4% to 6%. Additionally, NamasteMD will allow patients to connect with doctors, have a video interview and recieve a presription for medical cannabis without ever having to enter a clinic or leave their home.","Namaste partnered with a firm in Sweden to create in-house AI software that improved their conversion rate on Australian Vapes from 4 to 6. Additionally, NamasteMD will allow patients to connect with doctors, have a video interview and recieve a presription for medical cannabis without ever having to enter a clinic or leave their home.",Namaste和瑞典一家公司合作开发了一款内部AI软件，该软件可以将他们在澳大利亚Vapes的转化率从4%提高到6%。另外，NamasteMD将允许患者与医生进行视频面试，并在不必进入诊所或离开家的情况下，获得医用大麻处方。,0 1493,dsj8ejy,"> It would be like a doctor running into a giant gush of arterial spray and just ignoring it. Sure the poor bastard on the table is probably going to die, but you don't use that as an excuse to not try to stop the bleed. If you're talking about the failure to pursue extra on-orbit imaging, then I don't you'd find anyone (including Linda Ham) who would argue against it from the position of historical privilege we now enjoy, looking back on things. But if you're talking about the lack of a rescue mission, I don't think that's an apt characterization. I think you'd instead have to say that it would be like a doctor running into a giant gush of arterial spray and having to decide, based on incomplete information, whether or not to fix it. And if the fix fails, _everyone in the OR dies along with the patient._ That would have been the calculus for the rescue—do nothing and kill seven, or do something with a high likelihood of failure and possibly save seven or more likely kill eleven. > I have a plan to fix it now. I'm going to use modern AI to datamine the indecent and get to the bottom of things. I said it then, and continue to now, I will not forgive or forget. Would be interested to know what you come up with.","gt; It would be like a doctor running into a giant gush of arterial spray and just ignoring it. Sure the poor bastard on the table is probably going to die, but you don't use that as an excuse to not try to stop the bleed. If you're talking about the failure to pursue extra on-orbit imaging, then I don't you'd find anyone (including Linda Ham) who would argue against it from the position of historical privilege we now enjoy, looking back on things. But if you're talking about the lack of a rescue mission, I don't think that's an apt characterization. I think you'd instead have to say that it would be like a doctor running into a giant gush of arterial spray and having to decide, based on incomplete information, whether or not to fix it. And if the fix fails, everyone in the OR dies along with the patient. That would have been the calculus for the rescuedo nothing and kill seven, or do something with a high likelihood of failure and possibly save seven or more likely kill eleven. gt; I have a plan to fix it now. I'm going to use modern AI to datamine the indecent and get to the bottom of things. I said it then, and continue to now, I will not forgive or forget. Would be interested to know what you come up with.","“这就好比一个医生看到大量的动脉喷血却选择无动于衷。没错，手术台上那可怜的家伙很可能会死，但这不是不努力止血的借口。 如果你谈的是未进行额外轨道成像的失误，我觉得没有人（包括琳达·哈姆）会站在我们现在享受的历史优势的角度来反对这种做法。 但如果你说的是没有进行救援任务，我觉得这个描述不太恰当。我觉得你应该说的是，这就好比一个医生看到大量的动脉喷血，却需要根据不完整的信息来决定是否去解决它。如果手术失败，_手术室里的每个人和病人都会一起死_。 这就是救援行动的计算方式——不采取行动就会杀死七个人，或者采取行动，但很可能失败，并可能多杀了七个人。"" “我有一个修复计划。我要用现代人工智能对事件进行数据挖掘，找出实质问题。我当时说了，现在也一直坚持，我不会原谅或忘记。” “很想知道你有什么想法。”",0 1218,dsjtr82,"Whatever your normal blast AI dose is, after your last injection just hit it with two half doses that week and I guarantee you’ll be gravy. Keep in mind I’m no doctor. ","Whatever your normal blast AI dose is, after your last injection just hit it with two half doses that week and I guarantee youll be gravy. Keep in mind Im no doctor.",无论你平时使用的AI剂量是多少，最后一次注射后，那周只用半剂量的两次，我保证你会没问题的。记住，我不是医生。,0 3818,dsln5e2,"DS9 is seven seasons, same as TNG and Voyager. I have a special place in my heart for TNG and there are some amazing moments in it, often thanks to the incredible talent of Patrick Stewart and Brent Spiner, but overall DS9 is my favorite. I like the direction they went with it when they chose to expand their focus on non-Federation species and allow so much more nuance in their characters. So often a well-written villain is more compelling than a hero, and you definitely get that in DS9. The episode with The Rock is in Voyager, ""Tsunkatse"". Voyager is more like Next Gen than DS9 in my opinion, except it's not that great. Although if you're interested in AI you might like ""Author, Author"". The Doctor is a similar type of character to Data so they touch on a lot of the same stuff with him, although maybe not quite as vigorously since they've already done it in TNG. I do think for the most part you're okay jumping around in TNG, you might miss some stuff but it's not a huge issue. It does have backstories and recurring, evolving stuff but again nothing on par with DS9. For more Data check out ""The Schizoid Man"", ""Datalore"", ""The Offspring"" (kind of sad), ""Brothers"", ""Time's Arrow"", ""Descent"", ""Phantasms"", ""Inheritance"", and for a super weird one, ""Masks"".","DS9 is seven seasons, same as TNG and Voyager. I have a special place in my heart for TNG and there are some amazing moments in it, often thanks to the incredible talent of Patrick Stewart and Brent Spiner, but overall DS9 is my favorite. I like the direction they went with it when they chose to expand their focus on non-Federation species and allow so much more nuance in their characters. So often a well-written villain is more compelling than a hero, and you definitely get that in DS9. The episode with The Rock is in Voyager, ""Tsunkatse"". Voyager is more like Next Gen than DS9 in my opinion, except it's not that great. Although if you're interested in AI you might like ""Author, Author"". The Doctor is a similar type of character to Data so they touch on a lot of the same stuff with him, although maybe not quite as vigorously since they've already done it in TNG. I do think for the most part you're okay jumping around in TNG, you might miss some stuff but it's not a huge issue. It does have backstories and recurring, evolving stuff but again nothing on par with DS9. For more Data check out ""The Schizoid Man"", ""Datalore"", ""The Offspring"" (kind of sad), ""Brothers"", ""Time's Arrow"", ""Descent"", ""Phantasms"", ""Inheritance"", and for a super weird one, ""Masks"".","DS9总共有七季，就像TNG和航海家一样。我对TNG有特殊的感情，其中有一些令人惊叹的时刻，这很大程度上要归功于帕特里克·斯图尔特和布伦特·斯皮纳的不可思议的才华，但总的来说DS9是我最喜欢的。我喜欢他们在选择扩大对非联邦种族的关注并允许更多角色的细微差别时所走的方向。往往一个写得好的反派比英雄更有吸引力，在DS9中你绝对能感受到这一点。 有一集是在航海家中，叫做“Tsunkatse”。我认为航海家更像TNG，而不是DS9，尽管它没那么出色。不过，如果你对人工智能感兴趣，你可能会喜欢“Author, Author”。医生和数据是同类型的角色，所以他们也涉及了很多相同的东西，尽管也许没有那么激烈，因为在TNG中他们已经做过了。 我认为大部分时间在TNG中跳着看是可以的，你可能会错过一些东西，但这并不是一个很大的问题。它有一些背景故事和不断发展的情节，但再次，这和DS9相比并不重要。 如果想了解更多有关数据的内容，请看“狂人”，“数据号”，“后代”（有点难过），“兄弟”，“时间的箭头”，“衰变”，“幻影”，“继承”，还有一集非常怪异的，“假面”。",0 4728,dsm01xe,"Years later, the tumor reappeared. This time it was too close to the spine for surgery. There were other options, but you knew how much they'd hurt, and wanted the last few months of your life to be spent with your friends and family. All doctors were allowed to administer ReapSleep, regardless of their specialty. You'd known Dr. Berg since the birth of your daughter, and had become close over the years. Once you both had retired, you'd been almost inseparable, gaming together, tweaking home AI systems -- typical retired person hobbies. On a rainy Friday evening, with your friends and family around you, Dr. Berg -- Helen, pressed the plunger, releasing the ReapSleep into your IV. It had been a good life. ","Years later, the tumor reappeared. This time it was too close to the spine for surgery. There were other options, but you knew how much they'd hurt, and wanted the last few months of your life to be spent with your friends and family. All doctors were allowed to administer ReapSleep, regardless of their specialty. You'd known Dr. Berg since the birth of your daughter, and had become close over the years. Once you both had retired, you'd been almost inseparable, gaming together, tweaking home AI systems -- typical retired person hobbies. On a rainy Friday evening, with your friends and family around you, Dr. Berg -- Helen, pressed the plunger, releasing the ReapSleep into your IV. It had been a good life.","多年以后，肿瘤又出现了。这次它距离脊柱太近，无法手术治疗。还有其他选择，但你知道它们会有多痛苦，而且你希望生命的最后几个月能与朋友和家人在一起度过。 所有医生都被允许使用ReapSleep，不论他们的专业是什么。你认识Berg医生自从你女儿出生以来，多年来你们变得很亲近。退休后，你们几乎形影不离，一起玩游戏，调整家用人工智能系统——典型的退休者爱好。 在一个下着雨的星期五晚上，你的朋友和家人围绕着你，赫伦医生按下了注射器，释放了ReapSleep进入你的静脉。 这是美好的一生。",0 4949,dsp8lsx,"> AI is going to replace doctors (Watson) I'm always curious why people jump straight to Doctors when there are much more nurses, PAs, nurse's aid, respiratory therapists etc employed in the hospital that can be replaced first. In fact, the nursing lobby put out a video to dissuade hospitals from using robots to replace nurses (source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YthF86QDOXY) and Japan is already making headway with that since they're facing critical nursing shortages. There are over 2,927,000 nurses in the US compared to 1,000,000 doctors across all specialties. The human element is very important in nursing, but it is also important for physicians. If you're arguing that it isn't important than there are other jobs that can be easily replaced in the hospital that employs more people than physicians. ","gt; AI is going to replace doctors (Watson) I'm always curious why people jump straight to Doctors when there are much more nurses, PAs, nurse's aid, respiratory therapists etc employed in the hospital that can be replaced first. In fact, the nursing lobby put out a video to dissuade hospitals from using robots to replace nurses (source: https:www.youtube.comwatch?vYthF86QDOXY) and Japan is already making headway with that since they're facing critical nursing shortages. There are over 2,927,000 nurses in the US compared to 1,000,000 doctors across all specialties. The human element is very important in nursing, but it is also important for physicians. If you're arguing that it isn't important than there are other jobs that can be easily replaced in the hospital that employs more people than physicians.","嘿，我一直很好奇为什么大家总是直接想到医生，其实医院里有更多的护士、助理医师、护理助手、呼吸治疗师等可以被先替代。事实上，护理行业协会发布了一段视频，劝告医院不要使用机器人替代护士（来源：https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YthF86QDOXY），而日本已经在这方面取得了进展，因为他们面临着护理人员短缺的问题。美国有超过292.7万名护士，而各个专业的医生只有100万人。 人的因素在护理工作中非常重要，但对医生也同样重要。如果你认为这并不重要，那么医院里有比医生更多人的其他工作可以被轻松替代。",1 4951,dstr5mh,"This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://spectrum.ieee.org/the-human-os/biomedical/diagnostics/stanfords-ai-predicts-death-for-better-end-of-life-care) reduced by 90%. (I'm a bot) ***** > An internal medicine physician and founding medical director of Palliative Care Services for Stanford Health Care, saw an opportunity to flip that routine around by giving palliative care physicians the ability to identify and proactively reach out to patients. > From an ethics and medical care standpoint, the deep learning model&#039;s assistance in helping human physicians screen patients for palliative care generally comes with major benefits and few downsides. > The palliative care team is primarily concerned with accurately identifying patients who could benefit from their attention, as opposed to needing to know exactly why the algorithm predicts a given patient might die within a year. ***** [**Extended Summary**](http://np.reddit.com/r/autotldr/comments/7r2wh7/stanfords_ai_predicts_death_for_better_endoflife/) | [FAQ](http://np.reddit.com/r/autotldr/comments/31b9fm/faq_autotldr_bot/ ""Version 1.65, ~283768 tl;drs so far."") | [Feedback](http://np.reddit.com/message/compose?to=%23autotldr ""PM's and comments are monitored, constructive feedback is welcome."") | *Top* *keywords*: **patient**^#1 **care**^#2 **Stanford**^#3 **learn**^#4 **model**^#5","This is the best tl;dr I could make, original(https:spectrum.ieee.orgthe-human-osbiomedicaldiagnosticsstanfords-ai-predicts-death-for-better-end-of-life-care) reduced by 90. (I'm a bot) gt; An internal medicine physician and founding medical director of Palliative Care Services for Stanford Health Care, saw an opportunity to flip that routine around by giving palliative care physicians the ability to identify and proactively reach out to patients. gt; From an ethics and medical care standpoint, the deep learning modelamp;039;s assistance in helping human physicians screen patients for palliative care generally comes with major benefits and few downsides. gt; The palliative care team is primarily concerned with accurately identifying patients who could benefit from their attention, as opposed to needing to know exactly why the algorithm predicts a given patient might die within a year. Extended Summary(http:np.reddit.comrautotldrcomments7r2wh7stanfordsaipredictsdeathforbetterendoflife) FAQ(http:np.reddit.comrautotldrcomments31b9fmfaqautotldrbot ""Version 1.65, 283768 tl;drs so far."") Feedback(http:np.reddit.commessagecompose?to23autotldr ""PM's and comments are monitored, constructive feedback is welcome."") Top keywords: patient1 care2 Stanford3 learn4 model5","这是我能做出的最好的摘要，[原文](https://spectrum.ieee.org/the-human-os/biomedical/diagnostics/stanfords-ai-predicts-death-for-better-end-of-life-care)减少了90%。(我是一个机器人) 一个斯坦福保健服务的内科医生兼创始医疗主任，看到了一个机会，可以通过给临终关怀医生们找到并主动接触患者的能力，来改变常规。 从伦理和医疗护理的角度来看，深度学习模型在帮助人类医生为临终关怀患者筛选患者方面通常带来了重大利益，而副作用很少。 临终关怀团队主要关注准确识别那些需要他们关注的患者，而不是需要知道算法为什么预测某个患者可能在一年内去世。",1 4869,dswquvg,"I've been diving deep into AI and I'm not as scared of an AI atlas style robot raping me before crushing my skull. What I am worried about is the amount of jobs It's going to eliminate. For instance, Dermatologist are fucked imo, [check this out](https://youtu.be/J6tgYBMXR6s) @ 8:30, they have an AI that can diagnose skin marks better than one of the top Dermatologist in the world. I imagine that app won't be sold to the general public, but maybe to general doctors offices so they can identify an issue without having to make a referrial. AI has the potential to cut out huge job markets that people haven't even thought of (besides transport, factory, manual labor). [This video](https://youtu.be/WSKi8HfcxEk) from kurzgesagt really lays out how AI can kill middle management positions in large companies, and Amazon is already doing that (spoke with a friend who worked at an Amazon shipping warehouse who's boss was an AI). I think the amount of unemployed is the real issue coming down the pipeline.","I've been diving deep into AI and I'm not as scared of an AI atlas style robot raping me before crushing my skull. What I am worried about is the amount of jobs It's going to eliminate. For instance, Dermatologist are fucked imo, check this out(https:youtu.beJ6tgYBMXR6s) 8:30, they have an AI that can diagnose skin marks better than one of the top Dermatologist in the world. I imagine that app won't be sold to the general public, but maybe to general doctors offices so they can identify an issue without having to make a referrial. AI has the potential to cut out huge job markets that people haven't even thought of (besides transport, factory, manual labor). This video(https:youtu.beWSKi8HfcxEk) from kurzgesagt really lays out how AI can kill middle management positions in large companies, and Amazon is already doing that (spoke with a friend who worked at an Amazon shipping warehouse who's boss was an AI). I think the amount of unemployed is the real issue coming down the pipeline.",我一直在深入研究人工智能，我不再害怕会有一个像atlas那样的机器人强奸我，然后粉碎我的头颅。我担心的是它将消灭多少工作岗位。比如，皮肤科医生在我看来是完蛋了，[看看这个](https://youtu.be/J6tgYBMXR6s) @ 8:30，在这个视频中他们有一个人工智能可以比世界顶级的皮肤科医生更好地诊断皮肤标记。我想像这种应用可能不会销售给普通大众，但可能会销售给普通医生办公室，这样他们就可以识别问题而不必转介患者。人工智能有潜力消灭人们甚至没有想到的大量工作市场（除了运输、工厂、体力劳动之外）。[这个视频](https://youtu.be/WSKi8HfcxEk)来自kurzgesagt，真正阐述了人工智能如何杀死大公司中的中层管理职位，亚马逊已经在做这个（我曾和在亚马逊发货仓库工作的朋友交谈过，他的老板是一个人工智能）。我认为失业人数才是真正的问题，即将来临。,1 1410,dsww4la,"I agree with the point you make with schizophrenia and other paranoia-linked disorders, but for depression, bipolar disorder, addictions, etc, a good AI platform could work much better than a doctor. When you go to your psychiatrist and he doesn't remember who you are or he judges you when you're just trying to be as sincere as possible, you either don't go back or you begin to lie to him (usually by omission) - I don't think anyone will feel they have to lie to a computer plus a good platform will identify exactly who the user is and will be available 24/7, not only during office hours. ","I agree with the point you make with schizophrenia and other paranoia-linked disorders, but for depression, bipolar disorder, addictions, etc, a good AI platform could work much better than a doctor. When you go to your psychiatrist and he doesn't remember who you are or he judges you when you're just trying to be as sincere as possible, you either don't go back or you begin to lie to him (usually by omission) - I don't think anyone will feel they have to lie to a computer plus a good platform will identify exactly who the user is and will be available 247, not only during office hours.",我同意你提到的精神分裂症和其他偏执型障碍的观点，但对于抑郁症、躁郁症、成瘾等问题，一个好的人工智能平台可能比医生更有效。当你去看精神科医生时，他不记得你是谁，或者在你尽可能真诚的时候对你进行评判，你要么不再去找他，要么就开始向他隐瞒事实（通常是疏漏性的）--我觉得没人会觉得需要对电脑撒谎，而且一个好的平台会准确识别用户身份，并且全天候都可用，而不仅仅在办公时间内。,1 4596,dt3aofk,"Think again. Some jobs may not be easily fully automated, at least in the short term, but there are definitely ways to partially automate them. For teachers, this video from CGP Grey will give you a good idea of how it could be done: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vsCAM17O-M Granted, there will still be ""teacher"" to supervise the children and the activities, but that's going from a highly skilled, highly specialized and educated job to a job that down the line may basically just requires a semi-capable warm body. The same can be done with doctors and so many other occupations, and it is in various stages of development. IBM Watson is being tested in multiple hospitals around the world to do 2 essential jobs that up until now were held by doctors and occupied a vast majority of a lot of doctor's time: Diagnostic and drug Prescriptions. And Watson, while no being perfect at either, is still overall statistically significantly better than doctors at both. The diagnostic success rate of that AI is more than superior to that of most doctors, including veteran Diagnosticians, and the AI only gets better at it the more data it processes and the more statistical models it accumulates. Same for drug prescriptions. It is capable of delivering better tailored treatments and take into considerations drug interactions that your average doctor cannot even begin to fathom. It can even do predictive drug interaction assessments on the fly by analyzing the molecular structure of two drugs and predict a potential bad combo. While neither of those types of automation will fully phase out either jobs, they can become efficient enough very quickly and lead to overall job loss in the long term. You don't need to fully automate a job, just enough so that now one person can do the job of 10 or you don't need to have someone as highly educated as before to do the same job.","Think again. Some jobs may not be easily fully automated, at least in the short term, but there are definitely ways to partially automate them. For teachers, this video from CGP Grey will give you a good idea of how it could be done: https:www.youtube.comwatch?v7vsCAM17O-M Granted, there will still be ""teacher"" to supervise the children and the activities, but that's going from a highly skilled, highly specialized and educated job to a job that down the line may basically just requires a semi-capable warm body. The same can be done with doctors and so many other occupations, and it is in various stages of development. IBM Watson is being tested in multiple hospitals around the world to do 2 essential jobs that up until now were held by doctors and occupied a vast majority of a lot of doctor's time: Diagnostic and drug Prescriptions. And Watson, while no being perfect at either, is still overall statistically significantly better than doctors at both. The diagnostic success rate of that AI is more than superior to that of most doctors, including veteran Diagnosticians, and the AI only gets better at it the more data it processes and the more statistical models it accumulates. Same for drug prescriptions. It is capable of delivering better tailored treatments and take into considerations drug interactions that your average doctor cannot even begin to fathom. It can even do predictive drug interaction assessments on the fly by analyzing the molecular structure of two drugs and predict a potential bad combo. While neither of those types of automation will fully phase out either jobs, they can become efficient enough very quickly and lead to overall job loss in the long term. You don't need to fully automate a job, just enough so that now one person can do the job of 10 or you don't need to have someone as highly educated as before to do the same job.","再想想吧。有些工作可能在短期内不太容易完全自动化，但肯定有方法可以部分自动化。对于教师来说，CGP Grey的这个视频会给你一个很好的想法，说明如何做到这一点： https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vsCAM17O-M 当然，仍然需要有“老师”来监督孩子和活动，但这个高技能、高专业化和高学历的工作可能最终只需要一个能干一点的人了。 医生和许多其他职业也可以做到同样的事情，而且正在各种不同阶段的发展中。 IBM Watson正在全球多家医院进行测试，完成了迄今为止由医生承担的两项必不可少的任务：诊断和药物处方。虽然Watson在两者方面都并不完美，但从统计上来看，在诊断上比大多数医生，包括资深的诊断医师，都要好得多。那种AI的诊断成功率远远超过大多数医生，而且AI在处理更多数据和积累更多统计模型时，只会变得更好。 药物处方也一样。它能够提供更好的定制治疗方案，并且考虑到一般医生根本不能想象的药物相互作用。甚至可以通过分析两种药物的分子结构，即时进行药物相互作用的预测评估，预测出可能的不良组合。 虽然这两种类型的自动化都不会完全淘汰医生的工作，但它们很快就能变得高效，并最终导致整体的就业损失。你不需要完全自动化一项工作，只需要让一人能够胜任十个人的工作，或是不必要求像以前那样高学历的人来做同样的工作。",1 2648,dt5tem5,"Hey 16-year-old kid. I'm going to give you some solid advice. Listen to your dad. He's smart. If he is willing to help you pay for your medical school, and become a doctor, then do it. Work your ass off. Get into medical school. Become a doctor. Especially, try to specialize and become a surgeon or an anesthesiologist. Why? Because of one thing. Doctors make a shit ton of money. An anesthesiologist makes over $300,000! And the system is rigged, so that their salary will continue to keep up with inflation. So they will always make a lot of money. And they get great benefits (health, life, and 401k). And why is this money thing important? Because of one thing. Pussy. You don't know it now, but in 12 years, when you turn 28, and you're a freshly minted doctor. Then, all the girls are gonna be all over you. And you get your pick. You can pick the hottest girl. Whether she's an Asian girl, or a White girl, or a Latina girl, or a Black girl. Whatever. The choice is yours. You basically move yourself to the front of the line. One day, when you go to parties, clubs, or bars in your late 20s. The girls always ask one question, and it is the most important one. What do you do? And when you tell them that you're a doctor, then shit, their eyes light up. Their pussy becomes soaking wet. They know they got a keeper, and they'll do whatever it takes to win you over. Because you're going to be their meal ticket out of poverty. Oh and plus, all that money, will buy you a whole lot of nice toys too. Like that fancy Benz. Which helps you get even more pussy. It's a virtuous cycle. Money, cars, and hot girls. Man, life will be great for you. So tell this tip to all your Asian buddies. Study super hard in High School and College. Become a Doctor. Get into a great school. Because your future depends on it. And if you can't do that, then become an Engineer or an AI Scientist. They make good money too, but not as much. Good luck man. Listen to your dad. He's a smart one. ","Hey 16-year-old kid. I'm going to give you some solid advice. Listen to your dad. He's smart. If he is willing to help you pay for your medical school, and become a doctor, then do it. Work your ass off. Get into medical school. Become a doctor. Especially, try to specialize and become a surgeon or an anesthesiologist. Why? Because of one thing. Doctors make a shit ton of money. An anesthesiologist makes over 300,000! And the system is rigged, so that their salary will continue to keep up with inflation. So they will always make a lot of money. And they get great benefits (health, life, and 401k). And why is this money thing important? Because of one thing. Pussy. You don't know it now, but in 12 years, when you turn 28, and you're a freshly minted doctor. Then, all the girls are gonna be all over you. And you get your pick. You can pick the hottest girl. Whether she's an Asian girl, or a White girl, or a Latina girl, or a Black girl. Whatever. The choice is yours. You basically move yourself to the front of the line. One day, when you go to parties, clubs, or bars in your late 20s. The girls always ask one question, and it is the most important one. What do you do? And when you tell them that you're a doctor, then shit, their eyes light up. Their pussy becomes soaking wet. They know they got a keeper, and they'll do whatever it takes to win you over. Because you're going to be their meal ticket out of poverty. Oh and plus, all that money, will buy you a whole lot of nice toys too. Like that fancy Benz. Which helps you get even more pussy. It's a virtuous cycle. Money, cars, and hot girls. Man, life will be great for you. So tell this tip to all your Asian buddies. Study super hard in High School and College. Become a Doctor. Get into a great school. Because your future depends on it. And if you can't do that, then become an Engineer or an AI Scientist. They make good money too, but not as much. Good luck man. Listen to your dad. He's a smart one.","嘿，16岁的孩子。我要给你一些建议。 听你爸的。他挺聪明的。 如果他愿意帮你付医学院的学费，然后成为医生，那就去吧。拼命学习，进医学院，成为医生。尤其是，尽量专攻成为外科医生或麻醉医生。 为什么？ 因为有一点。医生赚的钱特别多。麻醉医生年薪超过30万美金！而且这套系统是被设置好的，所以他们的薪水会一直跟得上通货膨胀。所以他们永远会赚很多钱。而且他们有很好的待遇（医疗，人寿和401k）。 为什么这个钱那么重要呢？ 因为有一点。妞。 现在你还不知道，但12年后，等你28岁，刚成为一名医生。啊，所有的女孩都会对你抢手抢脚的。你可以挑选。你可以挑最辣的女孩。不管她是亚洲的、白人的、拉丁的，还是黑人的。随便。选择权在你自己手里。你基本上把自己放到了第一位。 有一天，当你到了快30岁的时候去参加聚会，夜店，或者酒吧。女孩经常问一个问题，这个问题很重要。你是干嘛的？ 当你告诉她们你是医生的时候，天哪，她们的眼睛会亮瞎。她们会激动得不行。她们知道找到了个好对象，她们会不惜一切来追求你。因为你是她们逃离贫困的救命稻草。 哦，还有，那些钱，会给你买很多好东西玩具啊。像那种豪华的奔驰车。这可以帮你得到更多女孩。这是一个良性循环。钱、车、还有辣妞。哥们，你的人生会很棒。 所以，告诉你所有的亚洲兄弟这个诀窍。在高中和大学努力学习。成为医生。进入一个好学校。因为你的未来取决于这件事。如果你做不到，那就成为一名工程师或者人工智能科学家。他们也赚不少钱，只是没有那么多。 祝你好运。听你爸的。他可是懂行的。",0 3240,dt72fx3,"Automation in the past is different to automation of the future. Mechanisation reduced the need for manual labour, replaced dangerous jobs, allowed to increase productivity. Future automation will reduce the need for human thought, and thus the human that goes with it. The top 0.001% of computer programmers are racing to create AI that will replace all the other computer programmers, for example. Chatbots have replaced lawyers and doctors in some cases, with more to follow - indeed a chatbot can diagnose a stomach complaint with more accuracy than a human doctor already, and it took less man years to develop than to train 3 doctors. Millions of people just drive and deliver all day, and their jobs will be gone within the time it takes to buy the auto drive vehicle. The step changes that are coming are nothing like we've seen before but it's already happening. ","Automation in the past is different to automation of the future. Mechanisation reduced the need for manual labour, replaced dangerous jobs, allowed to increase productivity. Future automation will reduce the need for human thought, and thus the human that goes with it. The top 0.001 of computer programmers are racing to create AI that will replace all the other computer programmers, for example. Chatbots have replaced lawyers and doctors in some cases, with more to follow - indeed a chatbot can diagnose a stomach complaint with more accuracy than a human doctor already, and it took less man years to develop than to train 3 doctors. Millions of people just drive and deliver all day, and their jobs will be gone within the time it takes to buy the auto drive vehicle. The step changes that are coming are nothing like we've seen before but it's already happening.","过去的自动化与未来的自动化是不同的。 机械化减少了对人力的需求，取代了危险的工作，增加了生产力。 未来的自动化将减少对人类思维的需求，从而也减少了人类的需求。 顶尖的0.001％的计算机程序员正在竞相开发能够取代其他计算机程序员的人工智能。 例如，聊天机器人已经在某些情况下取代了律师和医生，而且还会有更多的领域跟进 - 实际上，现在聊天机器人甚至可以比人类医生更准确地诊断胃部问题，而其开发所需的时间也比培训三名医生所需的时间更短。数百万人每天都在开车和送货，而他们的工作将在购买自动驾驶汽车所需的时间内消失。 即将到来的突飞猛进的变化与以往所见的完全不同，但它已经在发生。",1 4139,dt8f63q,"I agree that we're a breakthrough away from AGI, but I'm not sure we're as close to having that breakthrough as you think. From a software perspective, we might be 15 years away from having software that could start to seem really human. There's a company called Soul Machines that is working on a brand new AI system called ""Human Computing Engine."" From what I've seen and heard, this human computing engine is extremely similar to our actual brain, just a whole lot smaller and weaker. The system simulates neurotransmitters which allow it to ""feel"" happy, sad, scared, etc. The system learns in real time, unlike a lot of AI, and more. They've even made a simulated baby called Baby X 5.0! You can visit their website here -> https://www.soulmachines.com/ And read more about their system, mainly Baby X 5.0 here -> https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2017-09-07/this-startup-is-making-virtual-people-who-look-and-act-impossibly-real They've also made a few YouTube videos. From a hardware perspective, I don't know when we'll have computers that can run something as powerful as the human brain. I guess it really depends. Maybe it could be 10 years, maybe it could be 30. I'm not sure. As far as robot doctors, they might actually be really close to becoming a thing. There's already a machine called Watson that's trying to be a doctor. And while it has it's flaws, it can work really well. ","I agree that we're a breakthrough away from AGI, but I'm not sure we're as close to having that breakthrough as you think. From a software perspective, we might be 15 years away from having software that could start to seem really human. There's a company called Soul Machines that is working on a brand new AI system called ""Human Computing Engine."" From what I've seen and heard, this human computing engine is extremely similar to our actual brain, just a whole lot smaller and weaker. The system simulates neurotransmitters which allow it to ""feel"" happy, sad, scared, etc. The system learns in real time, unlike a lot of AI, and more. They've even made a simulated baby called Baby X 5.0! You can visit their website here -gt; https:www.soulmachines.com And read more about their system, mainly Baby X 5.0 here -gt; https:www.bloomberg.comnewsfeatures2017-09-07this-startup-is-making-virtual-people-who-look-and-act-impossibly-real They've also made a few YouTube videos. From a hardware perspective, I don't know when we'll have computers that can run something as powerful as the human brain. I guess it really depends. Maybe it could be 10 years, maybe it could be 30. I'm not sure. As far as robot doctors, they might actually be really close to becoming a thing. There's already a machine called Watson that's trying to be a doctor. And while it has it's flaws, it can work really well.","我同意我们距人工智能的突破只差一步之遥，但我不确定我们离那个突破有多近，就像你所想的那样。 从软件角度来看，也许我们离拥有真正像人类一样的软件还有15年的时间。有一家叫做Soul Machines的公司正在研发一种全新的人工智能系统，名为“Human Computing Engine”。据我所见和听说，这个人工智能引擎与我们实际的大脑非常相似，只是小得多，而且弱得多。该系统模拟了神经递质，使得它能够“感受”快乐、悲伤、恐惧等。这个系统是实时学习的，不像许多人工智能系统那样。他们甚至制作了一个名为Baby X 5.0的模拟婴儿！ 你可以访问他们的网站 -> https://www.soulmachines.com/ 并且在这里阅读更多关于他们的系统，尤其是关于Baby X 5.0的信息 -> https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2017-09-07/this-startup-is-making-virtual-people-who-look-and-act-impossibly-real 他们还制作了一些YouTube视频。 从硬件角度来看，我不知道我们何时才能拥有能运行像人脑那样强大的东西的计算机。我猜这取决于很多因素。也许10年后，也许30年后。我不确定。 至于机器医生，它们实际上可能真的很快就会问世。已经有一台叫做沃森的机器在尝试成为一名医生。虽然它也有它的缺陷，但它确实能够运作得很好。",0 2645,dtey8xg,Doctor...and not a radiologist that will be replaced by AI,Doctor...and not a radiologist that will be replaced by AI,医生...不是会被人工智能取代的放射科医生。,1 3893,dti49dn,"I never contested that doctors could replace engineers, I merely inquired as to if you really belief that AI sufficiently advanced to render doctors a thing of the past would not also do the very same thing to engineers. You're right that I don't have an authoritative understanding of exactly what all engineers do--but in my defense, you very clearly have little to no understanding of what actual work as a physician entails based on your posts.","I never contested that doctors could replace engineers, I merely inquired as to if you really belief that AI sufficiently advanced to render doctors a thing of the past would not also do the very same thing to engineers. You're right that I don't have an authoritative understanding of exactly what all engineers do--but in my defense, you very clearly have little to no understanding of what actual work as a physician entails based on your posts.","我从未说医生可以取代工程师，我只是问你是否真的相信AI是否足够先进，可以让医生成为过去。工程师也会受到同样的影响。 你说得对，我确实不太了解工程师具体做什么——但我想为自己辩护，根据你的帖子，你对医生的实际工作也几乎一无所知。",1 2075,dtj9r4s,Until we have AI doctors....and then we automate that too,Until we have AI doctors....and then we automate that too,直到我们有了人工智能医生....然后我们也自动化了这个。,1 1007,dtkxd96,">be doctor >doin doctory things >find an engineer with histamine in his blood claiming that the clown poisoned them >tried to get security to arrest honk boi, they wouldn't >time to be a vigilante >decide to join security instead because I'm not braindead >ask hop for a security promotion so I could catch the cluwne >he makes me hos at this point there were other security members, i was honestly shocked but as i later learned this hop was of the all access to anyone variety so whatever >do hos stuff for awhile >someone brings in the clown >do extensive investigation and cross reference witness testimony, tested the clown's painball ammo for poison, couldn't find any poison in his bags, then the engineer said the med borg coulda done it >fucking release clown as every fibre in my being says he's cruisin for a mcbruisin >due to one thing or another crew accuses ai of being rogue >after gathering my geared bois we march on the ai upload, kill a few borgs for getting in the way, eventually card it to check laws >fucking asimov never change, ss13","gt;be doctor gt;doin doctory things gt;find an engineer with histamine in his blood claiming that the clown poisoned them gt;tried to get security to arrest honk boi, they wouldn't gt;time to be a vigilante gt;decide to join security instead because I'm not braindead gt;ask hop for a security promotion so I could catch the cluwne gt;he makes me hos at this point there were other security members, i was honestly shocked but as i later learned this hop was of the all access to anyone variety so whatever gt;do hos stuff for awhile gt;someone brings in the clown gt;do extensive investigation and cross reference witness testimony, tested the clown's painball ammo for poison, couldn't find any poison in his bags, then the engineer said the med borg coulda done it gt;fucking release clown as every fibre in my being says he's cruisin for a mcbruisin gt;due to one thing or another crew accuses ai of being rogue gt;after gathering my geared bois we march on the ai upload, kill a few borgs for getting in the way, eventually card it to check laws gt;fucking asimov never change, ss13",">当了医生 >忙着做医生的事情 >发现一个工程师血液中有组胺，声称小丑下毒他们 >试图让保安逮捕小丑，但他们不肯 >决定成为一个义勇者 >最终决定加入保安，因为我不是脑残 >向负责人要求保安晋升，这样我就可以抓住小丑 >他让我当了HOS（Head of Security） 从这时起还有其他保安成员，我真的很震惊，但我后来得知这个负责人让所有人都能全面访问，所以随便了 >做了一段时间的HOS >有人抓到了小丑 >进行了深入的调查和交叉核实证人证词，检测了小丑的彩弹弹药是否有毒，但在他的包裹里找不到毒药，然后工程师说医疗机器人可能是凶手 >我感觉到每根神经都在告诉我他是罪有应得 >由于各种原因，船员们指责AI是叛徒 >在收集了我配备齐全的队员后，我们向AI上传进发，打死了几个机器人挡道，最后刷卡检查了AI的法律程序 >该死的阿西莫夫 别变了，ss13",0 1233,dtnq95q,"Is there not ways to get blood work privately in Canada? Thought some guys on here were able to figure it out. But yea I'd never let my primary care doctor take my bloods and find out I'm on gear lol. For your health you need to know what your e2 is so you can figure out what dose ai you need to keep it under control, so try figure out how to get it.","Is there not ways to get blood work privately in Canada? Thought some guys on here were able to figure it out. But yea I'd never let my primary care doctor take my bloods and find out I'm on gear lol. For your health you need to know what your e2 is so you can figure out what dose ai you need to keep it under control, so try figure out how to get it.",在加拿大没有私下做血液检查的途径吗？我以为这里有些人能搞定。但是，如果我的主治医生拿到我的血液检查结果并知道我在用增强剂，我肯定不会让他拿。为了健康，你需要知道你的雌激素水平，这样你就可以找出需要多少抗雌激素药物来控制它。所以尽量想办法去搞定这个。,0 2656,dtoit08,"I exclusively host with my friends because I'm the only one not too lazy to install the QoL mod. There's 3 of us, so we'd rather just have a bot than a 4th pub we won't be talking to. My most distinct memory of a bot is actually a few weeks ago when for whatever reason I could only connect to Friend A when Friend B hosted. If I hosted, Friend A couldn't join, and if Friend A hosted, I couldn't join. So we do a run on nightmare Horn of Magnus, and get all the way to the finale with the vanilla bot, and it was such an amazing difference between QoL bots and fatshark's dedication to make their game actively unfun. QoL bots aren't exactly the best things on the planet, but they were Doctor fucking Manhattan compared to vanilla Bardin. This dumb motherfucker just ran out with no provocation into a horde of rats and sat there without attacking until he died. I'm fine if Fatshark doesn't want to make bots as good as the average player, it's a smart move, but the way they are currently programmed it's less like they're ""not as good"" and more ""programmed to actively sabotage your team."" Their current level of bot AI is anti-fun in a way that would make me just quit the game if it weren't for the QoL bots. Actually, thinking on it, I DID quit the game for an entire year, and the bots were a major part of it. I only came back and stayed back because I downloaded the QoL mod.","I exclusively host with my friends because I'm the only one not too lazy to install the QoL mod. There's 3 of us, so we'd rather just have a bot than a 4th pub we won't be talking to. My most distinct memory of a bot is actually a few weeks ago when for whatever reason I could only connect to Friend A when Friend B hosted. If I hosted, Friend A couldn't join, and if Friend A hosted, I couldn't join. So we do a run on nightmare Horn of Magnus, and get all the way to the finale with the vanilla bot, and it was such an amazing difference between QoL bots and fatshark's dedication to make their game actively unfun. QoL bots aren't exactly the best things on the planet, but they were Doctor fucking Manhattan compared to vanilla Bardin. This dumb motherfucker just ran out with no provocation into a horde of rats and sat there without attacking until he died. I'm fine if Fatshark doesn't want to make bots as good as the average player, it's a smart move, but the way they are currently programmed it's less like they're ""not as good"" and more ""programmed to actively sabotage your team."" Their current level of bot AI is anti-fun in a way that would make me just quit the game if it weren't for the QoL bots. Actually, thinking on it, I DID quit the game for an entire year, and the bots were a major part of it. I only came back and stayed back because I downloaded the QoL mod.","我只和朋友们一起玩，因为我是唯一一个不太懒得安装QoL模组的人。我们一共有3个人，所以我们宁愿用机器人，也不想要第四个我们不会跟他说话的玩家。我最清楚记得机器人的一个经历是几周前，当时不知道为什么只有在B朋友主机的时候我才能连上。如果我主机，A朋友就连不上，如果A朋友主机，我就连不上。我们在恶梦鼠疫之角的最后一战中，只有一个原版机器人，和QoL机器人有如此惊人的差异，让我感到Fatshark对于游戏的不积极让人心烦。QoL机器人可能不是世界上最好的东西，但与原版的巴丁相比，他们就是超级英雄。这个傻子不做任何挑衅就跑进一群老鼠里，待在那里直到死亡，我才疯。如果Fatshark不想让机器人和普通玩家一样强，那也行，这是明智的选择，但目前他们的编程方式不是“不那么好”，而是“积极破坏你的队伍”。 他们当前的机器人AI水平在某种程度上就是反游戏乐趣的，如果不是因为QoL机器人，也许我早就退出游戏了。其实，回想一下，我确实曾经退出游戏整整一年，机器人是其中一个重要原因。我只是因为下载了QoL模组才回来并且一直留下来的。",0 4679,dtpc4wx,"Okay, that's an issue because your doctor is a dumb shit if he doesn't have you on hCG. For two important reasons. Failure to have you on hCG will result in permanent atrophy of your testicles and cellular damage to your Leydig cells. If you don't care about that, and want infertility as a benefit, fine, but the other issue is that testosterone usage shuts down steroid biosynthesis. You may have issues and not enough know it from a lack of DHEA, pregnenolone, progesterone and eltanolone among others. People should be on either hCG or pregnenolone/DHEA supplementation at the least. Or both. ---- AI = aromatase inhibitor, meant to control estrogen on cycle, which many people have the wrong idea about naively viewing estrogen as the enemy Raloxifene = a SERM potent in breast tissue; prevents you from getting bitch tits on cycle hCG = human chorionic gonadotropin, replaces the luteinizing hormone you lost when you started using T. Masteron = an old school injectable steroid that is good for shedding water, burning fat, libido, strength and hardening. It's also extremely effective against gyno and was originally developed as a breast cancer drug but abandoned for that purpose, mostly, because of its virilizing effects. This is what golden age bodybuilders used to keep gyno at bay. Not the newfangled AI and SERMs. Epistane = a strong oral steroid known for promoting lean, dry gains but also for its potent anti-gyno effects; it's a methylated version of epitiostanol, an even more potent anti-gyno drug than masteron because of its binding to the estrogen receptor as an antagonist in addition to acting as as cranked-up DHT, which is also strongly anti-gyno and can be applied topically for that purpose. ","Okay, that's an issue because your doctor is a dumb shit if he doesn't have you on hCG. For two important reasons. Failure to have you on hCG will result in permanent atrophy of your testicles and cellular damage to your Leydig cells. If you don't care about that, and want infertility as a benefit, fine, but the other issue is that testosterone usage shuts down steroid biosynthesis. You may have issues and not enough know it from a lack of DHEA, pregnenolone, progesterone and eltanolone among others. People should be on either hCG or pregnenoloneDHEA supplementation at the least. Or both. ---- AI aromatase inhibitor, meant to control estrogen on cycle, which many people have the wrong idea about naively viewing estrogen as the enemy Raloxifene a SERM potent in breast tissue; prevents you from getting bitch tits on cycle hCG human chorionic gonadotropin, replaces the luteinizing hormone you lost when you started using T. Masteron an old school injectable steroid that is good for shedding water, burning fat, libido, strength and hardening. It's also extremely effective against gyno and was originally developed as a breast cancer drug but abandoned for that purpose, mostly, because of its virilizing effects. This is what golden age bodybuilders used to keep gyno at bay. Not the newfangled AI and SERMs. Epistane a strong oral steroid known for promoting lean, dry gains but also for its potent anti-gyno effects; it's a methylated version of epitiostanol, an even more potent anti-gyno drug than masteron because of its binding to the estrogen receptor as an antagonist in addition to acting as as cranked-up DHT, which is also strongly anti-gyno and can be applied topically for that purpose.","好的，这个问题很严重，因为如果你的医生没有给你开人绒毛膜促性腺激素（hCG），那他真的是个笨蛋。 有两个重要的原因。 不给你开hCG会导致你的睾丸永久萎缩，并且对你的Leydig细胞造成细胞损伤。 如果你不在乎这些，而想把不育当作一个好处，那也行，但另一个问题是，使用睾酮会关闭类固醇的生物合成。你可能会出现问题，但由于缺乏脱氢表雄酮、孕酮、孕酮酮等物质，很多人并不知道。 人们至少应该服用hCG或者孕酮/脱氢表雄酮补充剂。或者两者都要服用。 ---- AI = 芳香化酶抑制剂，用于控制激素循环中的雌激素，许多人对激素有误解，天真地视雌激素为敌人。 Raloxifene = 对乳腺组织有很强作用的选择性雌激素受体调节物质；使用它可以防止你在使用周期内产生男性乳房。 hCG = 人绒毛膜促性腺激素，替代你开始使用睾酮时失去的黄体生成激素。 Masteron = 一种老式的注射类类固醇，可以去水肿、燃烧脂肪、提高性欲、增强力量和硬化。它对抗乳腺增生非常有效，最初是作为乳腺癌药物开发的，但因为它的雄化作用而放弃了这一用途。这就是黄金年代的健美运动员用来防止乳腺增生的药物。而不是新潮的AI和SERMs。 Epistane = 一种强效的口服类固醇，以促进干燥的瘠薄增肌而闻名，也以它强效的抗乳腺增生效果而著称；这是丙硫地醇的类似物，比Masteron更有效抗乳腺增生。因为它作为雌激素受体的拮抗剂结合，并且作为强效的DHT作用，这也是极具抗乳腺增生作用的。可以局部应用来达到这个目的。",0 1803,dtu0ugp,"I think I'm going to order accutane along with my AI just to have it on hand. Rather have it and not need it. I used to get really bad cystic facial acne as well. Just lucky I don't scar easy. Thanks for the suggestion. I guess I'm curious if lipitor will be enough to keep my cholesterol in check or if it'll have an adverse effect combined with orals. My question regarding lipitor is probably better suited for a doctor than a subreddit, though. I'll keep your suggestion for the adrol and tudca in mind, right now I'm rethinking things. Might just do the test for the first cycle. Then get my cholesterol checked, since I'm naturally prone to issues with it. If all goes well, maybe a cycle down the road with more to it. Just rather be safe than sorry when it comes to heart attacks, runs in the family. ","I think I'm going to order accutane along with my AI just to have it on hand. Rather have it and not need it. I used to get really bad cystic facial acne as well. Just lucky I don't scar easy. Thanks for the suggestion. I guess I'm curious if lipitor will be enough to keep my cholesterol in check or if it'll have an adverse effect combined with orals. My question regarding lipitor is probably better suited for a doctor than a subreddit, though. I'll keep your suggestion for the adrol and tudca in mind, right now I'm rethinking things. Might just do the test for the first cycle. Then get my cholesterol checked, since I'm naturally prone to issues with it. If all goes well, maybe a cycle down the road with more to it. Just rather be safe than sorry when it comes to heart attacks, runs in the family.","我觉得我要跟着服用AI一起订购维甲酸，备着用。宁愿有也不需要。我以前长过很严重的囊性面部痤疮。幸运的是我不太容易留疤。谢谢你的建议。 我想知道利伐他汀是否足以控制我的胆固醇，或者与口服药物一起会产生不良影响。关于利伐他汀的问题，或许问医生比在论坛上问更合适。 我会记住你关于阿德诺酮和特度卡的建议，现在我在重新考虑。也许第一疗程只是使用睾酮。然后检查一下我的胆固醇，因为我天生容易出问题。如果一切顺利，也许未来会做更多的疗程。在涉及心脏病发作时，我宁愿小心谨慎，毕竟家里有这方面的遗传。",0 3573,dtv8wkc,"Certainly Alpha Zero has shown that 3-3 invasions are at least ""ok"", but always the best ? I hope not because fusekis will be less fun in that case. I agree Leela's choice of the 3-3 invasion early on and her standing by it (she hasn't experimented all that much with alternatives) casts a new light. Maybe it's just a local optimum, a good enough move, you can't go badly wrong with the 3-3 point, there are no truly complicated variations: so it could be wiser, from an AI perspective, to leave well alone and focus on other aspects of the game that are easier to improve. Perhaps this habit, which may be not all that bad, really is hard to break. And the successful import into human pro games could involve some placebo effect (my Doctor told me the 3-3 invasion would cure my fuseki, and my AI Doctor is so wise, and I trust him so much).","Certainly Alpha Zero has shown that 3-3 invasions are at least ""ok"", but always the best ? I hope not because fusekis will be less fun in that case. I agree Leela's choice of the 3-3 invasion early on and her standing by it (she hasn't experimented all that much with alternatives) casts a new light. Maybe it's just a local optimum, a good enough move, you can't go badly wrong with the 3-3 point, there are no truly complicated variations: so it could be wiser, from an AI perspective, to leave well alone and focus on other aspects of the game that are easier to improve. Perhaps this habit, which may be not all that bad, really is hard to break. And the successful import into human pro games could involve some placebo effect (my Doctor told me the 3-3 invasion would cure my fuseki, and my AI Doctor is so wise, and I trust him so much).",Alpha Zero肯定表明3-3入侵至少是“可以接受的”，但总是最好吗？希望不是，因为在这种情况下布局会更无聊。我同意Leela早期选择3-3入侵并坚持这个选择（她并没有尝试太多的替代方案）给人一种新的感觉。也许这只是一个局部最优解，一个足够好的着法，你不会因为3-3点而走得太坏，没有真正复杂的变化：所以从AI的角度来看，最好是不动它，而是专注于其他更容易改进的方面。也许这个习惯，虽然不是那么糟糕，真的很难打破。而且成功地引入到人类职业比赛中可能涉及一些安慰剂作用（我的医生告诉我3-3入侵会治愈我的布局问题，我的AI医生如此明智，我如此信任他）。,0 2651,dtw5fng,"I'm not 100% sure about the reactive/proactive distinction. If an AI detects I have an unhealthy lifestyle, lack of exercise, unhealthy food consumption, mental health and addictions, that's still all pretty reactive to defective behavior it's observing from me, but I guess it could be seen as ""proactive"" because it would do so before I see a doctor about it... AI can definitely help to predict things like that if you're willing to provide the necessary information. It would perhaps be even more ""proactive"" to help you plan your day or diet, or help you evaluate your own plans (e.g. how unhealthy would it be if I eat pizza tonight?). A personal assistant AI could perhaps also help you find where to easily get the healthy food you want (or it suggested). Exercise can be personalized or gamified to be more fun, and I think some games may slow down mental deterioration from old age. Maybe AI could be used to automatically alter the experience to ""boost your brain"" (or entertain) you the most. The easiest variable might be something like difficulty, but there's also research into how to customize e.g. RPGs for the user's taste. Maybe in the future, this could be combined with mental health research to prevent (or remedy) issues in that area. Of course, AI can be applied extremely broadly and help with almost anything. You can try to predict where more hospitals are needed, what kind of experts will be needed (so you can train them), how to allocate research dollars, and maybe even how to market anti-smoking/obesity/etc. messages to various demographics, etc. ","I'm not 100 sure about the reactiveproactive distinction. If an AI detects I have an unhealthy lifestyle, lack of exercise, unhealthy food consumption, mental health and addictions, that's still all pretty reactive to defective behavior it's observing from me, but I guess it could be seen as ""proactive"" because it would do so before I see a doctor about it... AI can definitely help to predict things like that if you're willing to provide the necessary information. It would perhaps be even more ""proactive"" to help you plan your day or diet, or help you evaluate your own plans (e.g. how unhealthy would it be if I eat pizza tonight?). A personal assistant AI could perhaps also help you find where to easily get the healthy food you want (or it suggested). Exercise can be personalized or gamified to be more fun, and I think some games may slow down mental deterioration from old age. Maybe AI could be used to automatically alter the experience to ""boost your brain"" (or entertain) you the most. The easiest variable might be something like difficulty, but there's also research into how to customize e.g. RPGs for the user's taste. Maybe in the future, this could be combined with mental health research to prevent (or remedy) issues in that area. Of course, AI can be applied extremely broadly and help with almost anything. You can try to predict where more hospitals are needed, what kind of experts will be needed (so you can train them), how to allocate research dollars, and maybe even how to market anti-smokingobesityetc. messages to various demographics, etc.","我并不100%确定反应/积极的区别。如果人工智能检测到我有不健康的生活方式，缺乏锻炼，不健康的饮食习惯，心理健康和成瘾问题，这仍然只是对我观察到的不良行为做出反应，但我猜这也可以被视为“积极”，因为它会在我看医生之前就做出反应…… 人工智能肯定可以帮助预测这类情况，如果你愿意提供必要的信息。它或许甚至可以更“积极”地帮助你计划你的一天或饮食，或帮助你评估你自己的计划（比如，如果我今晚吃披萨会有多不健康？）。一位个人助理人工智能可能也可以帮助你找到轻松获取你想要的健康食品的地方（或者它建议的地方）。 锻炼可以个性化或者变成游戏，更有趣，我想一些游戏可能能延缓老年人的心理衰退。也许人工智能可以被用来自动调整体验，让你“最大限度地激发你的大脑”（或者娱乐）你。最简单的变量可能是难度，但也有研究表明如何根据用户的口味定制游戏（比如角色扮演游戏）。也许在未来，这可以与心理健康研究相结合，来预防（或治愈）这个领域的问题。 当然，人工智能可以被广泛应用，并帮助几乎任何事情。你可以尝试预测何处需要更多医院，需要哪种专家（这样你就可以培训他们），如何分配研究经费，甚至如何向各个人口统计群体推广禁烟/减肥等信息。",1 2409,dtyivby,"Go back and read the comment of mine that started this exchange, that you felt the need to correct. I didn't ever say quantum computing would the the key to AI. I said that quantum computing would be huge *and* that it would have a dramatic contribution to make towards AI. You can quibble about what qualifies as dramatic, but I never came close to saying that quantum computing was going to be the key that unlocks AI, or whatever impression you seem to have take away. Further, I said that everything we'd seen so far in machine learning had been purely classical. Which is the point that you saw fit to inform me on, even though I explicitly stated it. I get that you want to wave your credentials around, but your eagerness to do so is causing you to not read carefully and realize we're saying the exact same thing, you a bit more conservatively than I am. That's it. >It is quite well understood, actually. Yes, we will find novel algorithms which use QC which are much better than classical computing. But computing in general is quite well understood. We have a clear understanding of which classes of problems are better suited to QC and where CC will not and cannot be beat by QC. The opening paragraph of the link I sent you: ""*One of the ways that computers think is by analysing relationships within large sets of data. An international team has shown that quantum computers can do one such analysis faster than classical computers for a wider array of data types than was previously expected.*"" This is entirely inconsistent with what you are saying. We are still mapping out the advantages of quantum computing. It's early days. The SDK was released specifically because it is early days and they need more minds on this. Oh hey look at this [link](https://www.ibm.com/blogs/research/2017/11/the-future-is-quantum/):"" **While it is still early**, we look forward to fulfilling the true potential of quantum computing. The last year has fueled our optimism that quantum computing will open up new doors in the fields of chemistry, optimization, and **machine learning** in the coming years. We should savor this period in the history of quantum information technology, in which we are truly in the process of rebooting computing."" You know what is really *really* common for ""experts"" in fields to do? Assume that fields stop advancing once they leave school, that what they learned about it is all there is to know. Especially if they're not working in that specific subfield. And try to generalize their expertise in a related field to one they aren't really keeping abreast of. You see it ALL the time with doctors. I believe you are doing this now. ","Go back and read the comment of mine that started this exchange, that you felt the need to correct. I didn't ever say quantum computing would the the key to AI. I said that quantum computing would be huge and that it would have a dramatic contribution to make towards AI. You can quibble about what qualifies as dramatic, but I never came close to saying that quantum computing was going to be the key that unlocks AI, or whatever impression you seem to have take away. Further, I said that everything we'd seen so far in machine learning had been purely classical. Which is the point that you saw fit to inform me on, even though I explicitly stated it. I get that you want to wave your credentials around, but your eagerness to do so is causing you to not read carefully and realize we're saying the exact same thing, you a bit more conservatively than I am. That's it. gt;It is quite well understood, actually. Yes, we will find novel algorithms which use QC which are much better than classical computing. But computing in general is quite well understood. We have a clear understanding of which classes of problems are better suited to QC and where CC will not and cannot be beat by QC. The opening paragraph of the link I sent you: ""One of the ways that computers think is by analysing relationships within large sets of data. An international team has shown that quantum computers can do one such analysis faster than classical computers for a wider array of data types than was previously expected."" This is entirely inconsistent with what you are saying. We are still mapping out the advantages of quantum computing. It's early days. The SDK was released specifically because it is early days and they need more minds on this. Oh hey look at this link(https:www.ibm.comblogsresearch201711the-future-is-quantum):"" While it is still early, we look forward to fulfilling the true potential of quantum computing. The last year has fueled our optimism that quantum computing will open up new doors in the fields of chemistry, optimization, and machine learning in the coming years. We should savor this period in the history of quantum information technology, in which we are truly in the process of rebooting computing."" You know what is really really common for ""experts"" in fields to do? Assume that fields stop advancing once they leave school, that what they learned about it is all there is to know. Especially if they're not working in that specific subfield. And try to generalize their expertise in a related field to one they aren't really keeping abreast of. You see it ALL the time with doctors. I believe you are doing this now.","你可以回去看看那个引发这个对话的评论，你觉得有必要来纠正。 我从来没有说过量子计算将是人工智能的关键。 我说量子计算会很重要，而且它对人工智能会有巨大的贡献。你可以对“巨大”有不同看法，但我从来没有说过量子计算将成为解锁人工智能的关键，或者你莫名其妙地想到了什么印象。 而且，我说到我们在机器学习中所见到的一切都是纯粹的经典。尽管我明确说了这一点，但你还觉得有必要告诉我，这是什么。 我知道你想要炫耀一下你的资历，但你急于这样做导致你没有仔细阅读并意识到我们在说着完全一样的事情，只不过你的态度比我保守一些。就是这样。 > 其实，它已经被充分理解了。是的，我们将找到使用量子计算的新算法，这些算法比经典计算要好得多。但总的来说，计算已经被充分理解了。我们清楚地了解哪些问题更适合量子计算，经典计算在哪些地方是无法被量子计算打败的。 我给你发送的链接的开头段：“*计算机思考的一种方式是通过分析大数据集中的关系。一个国际团队已经证明量子计算机可以比经典计算机更快地对更多种类的数据进行一种分析。*” 这完全和你说的不一样。我们还在探索量子计算的优势。现在还处于早期阶段。SDK的发布是因为现在还是早期阶段，他们需要更多人参与进来。 哦，看看这个[链接](https://www.ibm.com/blogs/research/2017/11/the-future-is-quantum/)：**虽然现在还是早期，**但我们期待着充分发挥量子计算的真正潜力。过去的一年加强了我们对量子计算未来几年在化学、优化以及**机器学习**领域打开新局面的乐观态度。我们应该珍惜量子信息技术史上的这一时期，我们真正正在重启计算。"" 你知道一件“专家”和自己领域外的人很常见的事情是什么吗？他们会假定一个领域的进展在他们离开学校后就停止了，他们所了解的关于这个领域的一切知识就是全部了解了。尤其是如果他们不是在这个特定的子领域工作的话。他们会试图将他们在一个相关领域的专业知识概括到他们并没有真正了解的领域上。医生们经常会这样。我相信你现在正在做这件事。",0 68,du0fqxn,"I've seen that video before. Kurzgesagt is great. The thing is, futurists have been saying things like this for ages. They've been saying ""this time it's different because of AI"" since at least the early 90s, probably longer. It's worth pointing out that at the start of that video, it gave three examples of what this shiny new automation can do (""today they can land aircraft, diagnose cancer, and trade stocks""). Machines have been capable of doing each of those things for decades. Yet we still have pilots, doctors, and market traders. Just because something *can* be automated, doesn't mean that the people in charge want it to be. Planes are one of the best examples of an industry resisting automation. We've had the technology to fly planes completely unmanned for decades, yet for a variety of reasons, we still have pilots in both commercial and military roles. Autopilot is great when things are going as planned, but even the newer systems are poor at improvising if something goes wrong. On top of that, people feel more at ease having two experienced pilots in charge of the vehicle rather than a computer program. The autoland part of autopilot is usually extremely expensive too, so most airlines don't bother installing it. ","I've seen that video before. Kurzgesagt is great. The thing is, futurists have been saying things like this for ages. They've been saying ""this time it's different because of AI"" since at least the early 90s, probably longer. It's worth pointing out that at the start of that video, it gave three examples of what this shiny new automation can do (""today they can land aircraft, diagnose cancer, and trade stocks""). Machines have been capable of doing each of those things for decades. Yet we still have pilots, doctors, and market traders. Just because something can be automated, doesn't mean that the people in charge want it to be. Planes are one of the best examples of an industry resisting automation. We've had the technology to fly planes completely unmanned for decades, yet for a variety of reasons, we still have pilots in both commercial and military roles. Autopilot is great when things are going as planned, but even the newer systems are poor at improvising if something goes wrong. On top of that, people feel more at ease having two experienced pilots in charge of the vehicle rather than a computer program. The autoland part of autopilot is usually extremely expensive too, so most airlines don't bother installing it.","我之前看过那个视频了。Kurzgesagt做得很棒。 问题是，未来学家们早就说过类似的话。他们至少在90年代初就开始说“这次不一样，因为有了人工智能”，可能更早。 有一点值得指出的是，在视频开始的时候，它列举了三个这种全新自动化能做的例子（“今天他们可以着陆飞机、诊断癌症和交易股票”）。机器几十年来一直有能力做这些事情。然而我们仍然有飞行员、医生和交易员。只是因为某件事情 *可以* 被自动化，并不意味着负责人想要它被自动化。 飞机是抵抗自动化的最好例子之一。几十年来，我们就有了能够完全无人驾驶飞行的技术，但由于各种原因，我们在商业和军事角色中仍然有飞行员。当一切按计划进行时，自动驾驶系统很棒，但即使是最新的系统也很难在出现问题时即兴应变。此外，人们更愿意让两位经验丰富的飞行员来负责飞行器，而不是计算机程序。自动着陆部分的自动驾驶系统通常也非常昂贵，因此大多数航空公司都不愿意安装它。",1 4202,du64qfx,"Odds of entering any kind of meaningful graduate program in math/cs without a bachelors degree in the same field or at something related like physics or engineering is going to be roughly zero. Some places have a “masters degree” in “foundational math” which is basically an undergrad degree for people who want to switch fields but make it look like they’re making progress in school. You seem like you’re blaming your parents for a lot and seem a bit immature about the whole school process. You don’t really know anything about math or science but you think you’re Elon Musk and going to solve “problems” with AI. Back in the real world, a phd in math is unlikely going to help you with that, CS might help you with that, but if you’ve never taking some real math classes or never written a line of code you’re chasing a pipe dream. I really wish I could be a doctor, I love helping people, I love fixing things, I love anatomy, but being a doctor just isn’t in my life’s cards. You need to do some serious life thinking and decide if this is something you think you’d like to pursue for real for 2-5 years of your life or if this is something you think is sexy because Elon Musk shot a car into space. Sorry for being critical, I made a social science -> math -> engineering switch (undergrad, post-undergrad, grad school) and it took 3 years of very intense hard work (60+ hours a week) to get where I am at a top 15 grad school in engineering from having a degree in social science. It is not glamorous or sexy, I’m never going to be Elon Musk, but I have access to some of the coolest and newest technology and most innovative projects in the country and world right now.","Odds of entering any kind of meaningful graduate program in mathcs without a bachelors degree in the same field or at something related like physics or engineering is going to be roughly zero. Some places have a masters degree in foundational math which is basically an undergrad degree for people who want to switch fields but make it look like theyre making progress in school. You seem like youre blaming your parents for a lot and seem a bit immature about the whole school process. You dont really know anything about math or science but you think youre Elon Musk and going to solve problems with AI. Back in the real world, a phd in math is unlikely going to help you with that, CS might help you with that, but if youve never taking some real math classes or never written a line of code youre chasing a pipe dream. I really wish I could be a doctor, I love helping people, I love fixing things, I love anatomy, but being a doctor just isnt in my lifes cards. You need to do some serious life thinking and decide if this is something you think youd like to pursue for real for 2-5 years of your life or if this is something you think is sexy because Elon Musk shot a car into space. Sorry for being critical, I made a social science -gt; math -gt; engineering switch (undergrad, post-undergrad, grad school) and it took 3 years of very intense hard work (60 hours a week) to get where I am at a top 15 grad school in engineering from having a degree in social science. It is not glamorous or sexy, Im never going to be Elon Musk, but I have access to some of the coolest and newest technology and most innovative projects in the country and world right now.",在数学/计算机科学领域，如果没有本科学位或相关领域如物理学或工程学的学位，那要进入任何有意义的研究生项目的可能性基本上是零。有些地方有“基础数学”的硕士学位，基本上就是针对想要转行的人准备的本科学位，但看起来像是在学校取得进展。你似乎在很多事情上都在责怪你的父母，对整个学校进程似乎有些不够成熟。你对数学或科学一无所知，但却觉得自己是埃隆·马斯克，要用人工智能来解决“问题”。但在现实世界里，数学博士学位不太可能帮助你实现这个目标，计算机科学可能会帮助你，但如果你从没学过真正的数学课程或从没写过一行代码，你正在追逐一个白日梦。我真的很想成为一名医生，我喜欢帮助人，喜欢修复事物，喜欢解剖学，但成为一名医生不在我人生的计划内。你需要认真考虑一下人生，决定是否愿意为自己的人生投入2-5年时间来追求这个目标，或者你只是因为埃隆·马斯克把一辆车送上太空而觉得这个领域很酷。抱歉我要批评你，我从社会科学转到数学，再到工程学（本科、研究生、研究生院），花了3年非常紧张的工作（每周60多个小时）才在工程学的一所排名前15的研究生院取得了成就。这一点不浪漫也不性感，我永远也不会成为埃隆·马斯克，但我目前可以接触到一些国内外最酷、最新的技术和最具创新性的项目。,0 4105,du7b5y9,"It can absolutely go into remission. I was diagnosed at around 20, I showed a friend who worked in a lab my results and he was just like yeh, you’re fucked. When I went back for my next check up my antibodies were all back to normal and my doctor still gets me tested regularly (my family is riddled with AI, Mum has sjogrens, RA and SLE, paternal grandma has RA) but I’ve never had an issue since and am now 34. In fairness, I’m not a doctor so maybe there’s a different explanation, that’s just been my personal experience ","It can absolutely go into remission. I was diagnosed at around 20, I showed a friend who worked in a lab my results and he was just like yeh, youre fucked. When I went back for my next check up my antibodies were all back to normal and my doctor still gets me tested regularly (my family is riddled with AI, Mum has sjogrens, RA and SLE, paternal grandma has RA) but Ive never had an issue since and am now 34. In fairness, Im not a doctor so maybe theres a different explanation, thats just been my personal experience",这绝对可以进入缓解期。我大约20岁时被诊断出来，我向一个在实验室工作的朋友展示了我的检查结果，他就像是，是的，你完蛋了。当我下次复诊时，我的抗体都恢复正常了，我的医生仍然定期给我检测（我的家族中充斥着自身免疫疾病，妈妈有干燥综合症、类风湿性关节炎和系统性红斑狼疮，爷爷奶爷有类风湿性关节炎），但从那以后我再也没有出现过问题，现在我34岁了。公平地说，我不是医生，也许有不同的解释，这只是我的个人经历。,0 132,du7u8d1,"Even though Doctor Type AI is good enough, I guess I will skip this to prepare for United Front the 3rd.","Even though Doctor Type AI is good enough, I guess I will skip this to prepare for United Front the 3rd.",虽然博士型AI不错，我想我会跳过这个，准备好参加第三次联合行动。,0 4470,du8b5xh,I used to work in a dept that saw these AI figures for BBC programming. One of the comments for Doctor Who gave the episode a low score and said they would like the Christmas episode to star Sheena Easton. Make of that what you will.,I used to work in a dept that saw these AI figures for BBC programming. One of the comments for Doctor Who gave the episode a low score and said they would like the Christmas episode to star Sheena Easton. Make of that what you will.,我曾在一个部门工作，负责为BBC节目制作看到这些AI数据。有人在《神秘博士》的评论中给了这集一个低分，并说他们希望圣诞节特别篇由席娜·伊斯顿主演。你可以看看这些数据意味着什么。,0 2469,du9g2b2,"All he needs to do is promise to revolutionize medicine with (I'm guessing here) nanotechnology, self driving personalized ambulances, and AI doctors and people will finally revere him as the true genius he was destined to be. He's such a renaissance man, except for the humanities, but they were unimportant to the renaissance anyway and are for stupid non STEM idiots. ","All he needs to do is promise to revolutionize medicine with (I'm guessing here) nanotechnology, self driving personalized ambulances, and AI doctors and people will finally revere him as the true genius he was destined to be. He's such a renaissance man, except for the humanities, but they were unimportant to the renaissance anyway and are for stupid non STEM idiots.",他所需要做的就是承诺要用纳米技术、自动驾驶个性化救护车和人工智能医生来彻底改革医学，然后人们终于会尊敬他，把他当作他注定要成为的真正天才。他就是一个文艺复兴式的人才，除了人文科学外，但那些对文艺复兴来说不重要，只是给那些愚蠢的非STEM（科学、技术、工程和数学）的白痴。,0 2226,ducemji,"I thought the game was alright-good, but nothing special. Personally didn't really like the characters enough for a game centred heavily on two characters, as I thought they made stupid and irrational choices. Also the horror aspect for me was ruined when I was sneaking about and the kid AI decided to run around the zombies screaming FUCK all the time. That and also was not able to let the doctors save humanity and kill the kid.","I thought the game was alright-good, but nothing special. Personally didn't really like the characters enough for a game centred heavily on two characters, as I thought they made stupid and irrational choices. Also the horror aspect for me was ruined when I was sneaking about and the kid AI decided to run around the zombies screaming FUCK all the time. That and also was not able to let the doctors save humanity and kill the kid.",我觉得游戏还行，但没什么特别的。就个人而言，我不是很喜欢游戏中的角色，特别是在一个以两个角色为重心的游戏中，我觉得他们做出了愚蠢和不理智的选择。而且恐怖元素对我来说也被毁了，当我悄悄地躲避僵尸时，那个孩子AI却决定到处跑，一直尖叫着。这就是我觉得游戏有问题的地方，而且我也不能让医生拯救人类，反而要杀死那个孩子。,0 656,ducq4lv,"New Scientist had an article last year about how one could doctor videos to make it look like someone was saying something. https://www.newscientist.com/article/2131716-ai-can-doctor-videos-to-put-words-in-the-mouths-of-speakers/",New Scientist had an article last year about how one could doctor videos to make it look like someone was saying something. https:www.newscientist.comarticle2131716-ai-can-doctor-videos-to-put-words-in-the-mouths-of-speakers,New Scientist去年刊登了一篇文章，讲述如何利用技术来篡改视频，让别人看起来好像在说某些话。,0 4607,dudrdrg,"Trying to argue point by point on *three separate comment chains* is not a reasonable expectation to make of a random person on the internet, IMO. So, briefly: I think a reasonable summary of your argument would be ""but LW is not like the kooky guy, because we're not kooky. Many smart people believe in the things we're saying."" And I agree partially with this. Certainly there are some CS professors that say AI is an x-risk. But the specific combination of beliefs that LW has in full is very uncommon among experts. This isn't connected to AI, but the version of the many worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics on LW is just wrong, for example, and no physicist would say that it's true including the ones that prefer MW over other interpretations. LW's beliefs in cryonics are also very uncommon among biologists and doctors. And there are many other things like this where common LW beliefs are very rare among domain experts in the same way a belief in perpetual motion would be very uncommon among physicists. Or in other words, even if AI is an x-risk, you shouldn't believe that it's an x-risk just because you heard it on LW, and you shouldn't believe the version of AI x-risk that you hear from LW, which contains a lot of the particulars required for Roko's Basilisk to make sense. Most AI researchers don't believe in TDT or the mind simulation stuff, for example, even the ones that believe that AI is a potential x-risk. But what about ""argument screens off authority""? Yeah, that works if you are an expert and you are talking to other experts, but most people aren't experts in most areas. Very few arguments can be fully specified to the level of detail required for argument from authority to be completely baseless, and LW's argument for AI x-risk is certainly *not* fully specified. And even if you had a full description of the argument you would also need a complete or very nearly complete knowledge of the domain of the argument yourself to know whether that argument was true, or in other words you would need to yourself be an expert. In short, this is a lot like Aumann's agreement theorum; interesting in theory but useless in practice.","Trying to argue point by point on three separate comment chains is not a reasonable expectation to make of a random person on the internet, IMO. So, briefly: I think a reasonable summary of your argument would be ""but LW is not like the kooky guy, because we're not kooky. Many smart people believe in the things we're saying."" And I agree partially with this. Certainly there are some CS professors that say AI is an x-risk. But the specific combination of beliefs that LW has in full is very uncommon among experts. This isn't connected to AI, but the version of the many worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics on LW is just wrong, for example, and no physicist would say that it's true including the ones that prefer MW over other interpretations. LW's beliefs in cryonics are also very uncommon among biologists and doctors. And there are many other things like this where common LW beliefs are very rare among domain experts in the same way a belief in perpetual motion would be very uncommon among physicists. Or in other words, even if AI is an x-risk, you shouldn't believe that it's an x-risk just because you heard it on LW, and you shouldn't believe the version of AI x-risk that you hear from LW, which contains a lot of the particulars required for Roko's Basilisk to make sense. Most AI researchers don't believe in TDT or the mind simulation stuff, for example, even the ones that believe that AI is a potential x-risk. But what about ""argument screens off authority""? Yeah, that works if you are an expert and you are talking to other experts, but most people aren't experts in most areas. Very few arguments can be fully specified to the level of detail required for argument from authority to be completely baseless, and LW's argument for AI x-risk is certainly not fully specified. And even if you had a full description of the argument you would also need a complete or very nearly complete knowledge of the domain of the argument yourself to know whether that argument was true, or in other words you would need to yourself be an expert. In short, this is a lot like Aumann's agreement theorum; interesting in theory but useless in practice.","我认为，在*三条不同的评论链*上逐条辩论并不是一个合理的期望，尤其是针对网上的随机人。所以，简单来说： 我觉得总结你的论点可以是“但是LW不像那个古怪的家伙，因为我们不古怪。很多聪明人相信我们说的话。” 我在某种程度上同意这点。的确有一些计算机科学教授认为人工智能存在某种风险。 但LW全盘接受的那套信仰在专家中非常罕见。这与人工智能无关，但LW对于量子力学的多世界诠释就是错误的，没有任何物理学家会说这是真的，即使是那些更倾向于多世界诠释的也不会这么说。LW对于人体冷冻的信仰在生物学家和医生中也非常罕见。还有许多其他类似的例子，LW的信仰在领域专家中非常罕见，就像物理学家非常罕见地相信永动机一样。 换句话说，即使人工智能存在风险，你也不应该仅仅因为在LW上听到了它就相信它是一种风险，也不应该相信你从LW那里听到的人工智能风险的那种版本，因为它包含了许多Roko的巴塞利斯克所需要的特定信息。例如，即使那些相信人工智能可能是风险的人中也很少有人相信TDT或者思维模拟这类问题。 但关于“权威阻挡论”呢？是的，如果你是专家并且你在和其他专家交流，那么这也有所作用，但大多数人在大多数领域都不是专家。很少有论点能够被充分具体到需要完全无视权威来推翻，LW对人工智能风险的论点绝对不是这种情况。即使你能完整描述论点，你也需要对论点所涉领域有完整或非常接近完整的了解才能知道这个论点是不是正确，换句话说，你自己也需要是个专家。 简而言之，这有点像奥曼的一致性定理；理论上有意思但在实践中没用。",0 3974,due4mhx,"You should have done more research before using steroids. The amount of aromasin/other ai you need varies based on the person, age does not have a significant factor, it depends how heavily you personally aromatize. Get blood work at week 6 to check your estradiol level and adjust your ai dosage from there if needed. If the site gets worse, hot, itchy, then I'd consider seeing a doctor. It will most likely go away in a few days to a week.","You should have done more research before using steroids. The amount of aromasinother ai you need varies based on the person, age does not have a significant factor, it depends how heavily you personally aromatize. Get blood work at week 6 to check your estradiol level and adjust your ai dosage from there if needed. If the site gets worse, hot, itchy, then I'd consider seeing a doctor. It will most likely go away in a few days to a week.",在使用类固醇之前，你应该做更多的研究。需要的镇雄醇/其他抗雌激素的量因人而异，年龄并不是一个重要因素，取决于你个人的雌激素转化情况。在第6周做血液检查，检查你的雌二醇水平，如果需要的话就调整你的抗雌激素剂量。如果网站感染加重、发热、瘙痒，那我会考虑去看医生。它很可能会在几天到一周内自然消退。,0 2168,duek020,"*Michel stares at him for several seconds.* Oh... well that was my second theory that I dismissed... since AI, uh no offense, are still kind of illegal to develop... *The doctor doesn't voice how concerning ""she is always listening and watching"" sounds...* Did the Geth develop her for the ship or... did the Alliance? *She was only a year old at the time, but she's read an old article about the Alliance's secret AI experiments that had been going on at Sidon being uncovered by the Council. They could have started a new project since then.*","Michel stares at him for several seconds. Oh... well that was my second theory that I dismissed... since AI, uh no offense, are still kind of illegal to develop... The doctor doesn't voice how concerning ""she is always listening and watching"" sounds... Did the Geth develop her for the ship or... did the Alliance? She was only a year old at the time, but she's read an old article about the Alliance's secret AI experiments that had been going on at Sidon being uncovered by the Council. They could have started a new project since then.","*米歇尔盯着他看了好几秒。* 哦...这是我的第二个理论，我放弃了...因为人工智能，呃，无意冒犯，仍然是非法开发的... *医生没有表达出“她总是在听和看”听起来多么令人担忧...* 盖斯特为了这艘船开发了她，还是联盟？ *她当时只有一岁，但她读到一篇关于联盟在西顿进行秘密人工智能实验的旧文章，这些实验被理事会揭露了。他们可能自那时起就开始了新项目。*",0 2815,duf7ddn,"Oh yeah. We're all fucked really. Attorneys and doctors are already losing entry level jobs to AI, there's no need for a team of 10 new lawyers to do research and document processing, database services do that. AI is getting more reliable than the average physician at identifying issues on scans. Uber/taxi will die off. All the menial jobs disabled people used to get like greeter and putting vhs tapes back etc, all gone. Mining, construction, all of that consolidating many tasks into efficient new machines. Within 30 years there won't be enough emploment to go around.","Oh yeah. We're all fucked really. Attorneys and doctors are already losing entry level jobs to AI, there's no need for a team of 10 new lawyers to do research and document processing, database services do that. AI is getting more reliable than the average physician at identifying issues on scans. Ubertaxi will die off. All the menial jobs disabled people used to get like greeter and putting vhs tapes back etc, all gone. Mining, construction, all of that consolidating many tasks into efficient new machines. Within 30 years there won't be enough emploment to go around.","哦，是啊。 我们都完蛋了。律师和医生的入门级工作已经开始被人工智能取代了，现在不再需要10个新律师组成的团队去做研究和文件处理，数据库服务已经可以做到了。 人工智能在扫描中识别问题方面比普通医生更可靠。 优步/出租车将会消失。 像迎宾员和帮忙放VHS磁带之类的卑微工作，残障人士以前可以做的工作，都消失了。 矿业、建筑业，所有这些都将把很多工作合并为高效的新机器。 30年内，就业机会就会不够了。",1 289,duh2op0,"Adults too? And what's up with this wording: >and to assess if the test could identify ASD at very early stages, indicate how the ASD is likely to develop further to more severe disease I was under the impression that it's considered a disorder, not a disease? It comes with a whole range of implications if they word it like that. There are also dangers with letting AI diagnose someone with a disorder through a blood test... It's a very serious diagnosis to be given, if it's indeed more accurate then it's good but it can cause a whole lot of hurt if it starts giving false positives and the doctors run with it. I'm cautiously optimistic about this. Very cautiously. Early diagnosis is important for starting interventions so leaning towards optimistic.","Adults too? And what's up with this wording: gt;and to assess if the test could identify ASD at very early stages, indicate how the ASD is likely to develop further to more severe disease I was under the impression that it's considered a disorder, not a disease? It comes with a whole range of implications if they word it like that. There are also dangers with letting AI diagnose someone with a disorder through a blood test... It's a very serious diagnosis to be given, if it's indeed more accurate then it's good but it can cause a whole lot of hurt if it starts giving false positives and the doctors run with it. I'm cautiously optimistic about this. Very cautiously. Early diagnosis is important for starting interventions so leaning towards optimistic.","成年人也可以吗？还有这个措辞怎么回事： >并且评估测试是否能在早期阶段识别ASD，指示ASD可能如何发展为更严重的疾病 我的印象是，这被认为是一种障碍，而不是疾病？如果他们用这种措辞，就会带来一系列的暗示。让人工智能通过血液测试诊断某人患有一种障碍也存在危险……如果确实更准确，那真是太好了，但如果开始出现错误阳性结果，而医生又过分相信这个结果，那会造成很大的伤害。 我对此保持谨慎乐观。非常谨慎乐观。早期诊断对开始干预非常重要，所以我倾向于乐观。",1 3191,dujp8hs,"AI isn't going to destroy white collar professions any time soon. That's just industry hype. Doctors, Accountants, and professional Engineers all need state licensing to practice their profession. That means that individual people are accountable and responsible for what they do. That is about keeping people actually responsible for the choices that they make*. AI is going to be making expert systems that assist them in those goals, but having an actual person do a thing is about allowing people to make moral and ethical choices. *too bad that businessmen get to wash their hands of liability and leapfrog to the next dumpster fire","AI isn't going to destroy white collar professions any time soon. That's just industry hype. Doctors, Accountants, and professional Engineers all need state licensing to practice their profession. That means that individual people are accountable and responsible for what they do. That is about keeping people actually responsible for the choices that they make. AI is going to be making expert systems that assist them in those goals, but having an actual person do a thing is about allowing people to make moral and ethical choices. too bad that businessmen get to wash their hands of liability and leapfrog to the next dumpster fire","人工智能不会很快摧毁白领职业，这只是行业炒作而已。 医生、会计师和专业工程师都需要州立牌照才能从事自己的职业。这意味着个人要对自己的所做所为负责。这就是让人们真正对他们所做的选择负责。人工智能将会开发专家系统来辅助他们实现这些目标，但让实际的人来做事情是为了让人们能够做出道德和伦理上的选择。 太糟糕了，商人们完全没有责任可言，他们只会逃避责任，然后继续制造下一个灾难。",1 3424,dukercx,"I mean we're less than a generation away from a fundamental change in the way the economy operates, if experts are to be believed; self driving cars and formerly 'white collar' jobs being replaced by technology (doctors, lawyers, software developers replaced by AI)- we're in for massive changes, one way or another. ","I mean we're less than a generation away from a fundamental change in the way the economy operates, if experts are to be believed; self driving cars and formerly 'white collar' jobs being replaced by technology (doctors, lawyers, software developers replaced by AI)- we're in for massive changes, one way or another.",我的意思是，如果专家的话是可信的，我们距离经济运行方式的根本性改变还不到一代人的时间；自动驾驶汽车和曾经的“白领”工作被技术取代（医生、律师、软件开发人员被人工智能取代）- 无论如何，我们都将迎来巨大的变化。,1 1966,dulknf2,"Jobs like lawyers, physicians and engineers already have AI programs in development. But you have nice thoughts","Jobs like lawyers, physicians and engineers already have AI programs in development. But you have nice thoughts",像律师、医生和工程师这样的工作已经有人在开发AI程序了。但你有很好的想法。,1 3497,dun49vm,"I've suffered like this before. Your problem is you don't know where to start. Beginning a study session or assignment has always been the hardest part for me. This is way worse if you fall behind and don't understand anything. It's good you're catching yourself during midterms and not finals. A few good days of disciplined studying should catch you up. You may do bad at the midterms but it's worth a shot and at least you can use it as a learning experience. More importantly don't feel discouraged. The difficulty with learning for our generation, assuming you're a millennial, is not shocking, not just from the fact there are so many distractions but from the fact that everything in life is going through massive and fast social, economic, and political changes. And no one really has figured out how to adapt to things, compared to before when people could just go to high school, get a high pay union job with good benefits and build experience/skills while getting paid. Also if you feel that you don't know why you're in university/college and don't really know what you want to do, consider seeing a guidance counsellor at your university and discuss taking a break to collect yourself; find a job, hit the gym, etc. I did this and worked full time for a year and it really helped me centre myself and allowed me to find out I didn't wanna be a doctor but wanted to learn programming and AI development.","I've suffered like this before. Your problem is you don't know where to start. Beginning a study session or assignment has always been the hardest part for me. This is way worse if you fall behind and don't understand anything. It's good you're catching yourself during midterms and not finals. A few good days of disciplined studying should catch you up. You may do bad at the midterms but it's worth a shot and at least you can use it as a learning experience. More importantly don't feel discouraged. The difficulty with learning for our generation, assuming you're a millennial, is not shocking, not just from the fact there are so many distractions but from the fact that everything in life is going through massive and fast social, economic, and political changes. And no one really has figured out how to adapt to things, compared to before when people could just go to high school, get a high pay union job with good benefits and build experienceskills while getting paid. Also if you feel that you don't know why you're in universitycollege and don't really know what you want to do, consider seeing a guidance counsellor at your university and discuss taking a break to collect yourself; find a job, hit the gym, etc. I did this and worked full time for a year and it really helped me centre myself and allowed me to find out I didn't wanna be a doctor but wanted to learn programming and AI development.","我以前也受过这种煎熬。你的问题是不知道从哪里开始。对我来说，开始学习或做作业总是最困难的部分。如果你落后了，什么都不懂，情况会更糟。 你能在期中考试期间发现并意识到这一点很好，而不是在期末考试时。几天良好的有纪律的学习应该能追赶上进度。你可能会在期中考试时表现不好，但至少这是一次尝试，你可以把它当作一次学习经历。 更重要的是不要感到气馁。对我们这一代人来说学习困难并不奇怪，假设你是千禧一代，不光是因为有太多的诱惑，更是因为生活中的一切都在经历巨大而快速的社会、经济和政治变革。而且没有人真的知道如何适应这些变化，相比以前人们只需上完高中，然后获得高薪的工会工作和良好的福利，并在获得报酬的同时积累经验和技能。 另外，如果你觉得自己不知道为什么上大学/学院，也不确定自己想做什么，考虑去你所在的大学找学业指导老师，讨论休息一下来整理自己；找份工作，去健身房健健身等。我就是这么做的，全职工作了一年，真的帮助我找到了自我，让我发现自己不想当医生，而是想学习编程和人工智能开发。",0 3909,duqktz1,"How interesting, it didn't occur to me, as a viable answer, that it was simply a space issue. That still doesn't answer why AIs degrade during normal use, why they aren't simply taken away for deep defragging and decluttering. They are undisputably valuable pieces of equipment. On the other hand, the two nested AIs supports your idea; using the computational resources of the farming vehicles and a kind of semi-standby mode, I can see an AI slowly pruning away unneeded files, defragging neural nets and compressing information, getting organized for its next round. It would also explain Doctor Halsey's ability to maintain both Kalmiya and Cortana; Kalmiya operating OK for 14ish years, and Halsey was constantly tinkering with her, applying all the upgrades to Cortana. She also tweaked Cortana in some way, relieving some of the ""pressure"" and partially restoring Cortana's functioning at some point. On the other hand, I'm still not convinced. If it's just storage... Why not just add more storage space???! A starship is a big place, given the size of an AI's core why can't they just strap on five-hundred high-capacity hard drives and tell the AI to chill and maintain itself for a while. I understand that may not be possible in a combat situation, but surely if that was what you did, normally, the common wisdom would be ""An AI can operate for seven years red-hot, blazing fast before it falls apart"", rather than, ""An AI will start to fall apart after about seven years, sometimes longer, and it's unavoidable."" Yeah, I just don't get why it's seen as an insurmountable problem with UNSC Smart AI if it's just storage space. Your point about the Domain is of course valid, but I'm sure it's been mentioned it's a pretty sophisticated network that self-corrects and self-repairs data... Does it seem reasonable to you, if my theory is the ""correct"" one (this if fiction ;) that it's using its awesome processing power, memory and transcendental math to regenerate the neural pathways of an AI?? And thanks a ton for your thoughts, actually got me thinking. Also, is there a way for me to change my username?? I just noticed I miss-typed it.","How interesting, it didn't occur to me, as a viable answer, that it was simply a space issue. That still doesn't answer why AIs degrade during normal use, why they aren't simply taken away for deep defragging and decluttering. They are undisputably valuable pieces of equipment. On the other hand, the two nested AIs supports your idea; using the computational resources of the farming vehicles and a kind of semi-standby mode, I can see an AI slowly pruning away unneeded files, defragging neural nets and compressing information, getting organized for its next round. It would also explain Doctor Halsey's ability to maintain both Kalmiya and Cortana; Kalmiya operating OK for 14ish years, and Halsey was constantly tinkering with her, applying all the upgrades to Cortana. She also tweaked Cortana in some way, relieving some of the ""pressure"" and partially restoring Cortana's functioning at some point. On the other hand, I'm still not convinced. If it's just storage... Why not just add more storage space???! A starship is a big place, given the size of an AI's core why can't they just strap on five-hundred high-capacity hard drives and tell the AI to chill and maintain itself for a while. I understand that may not be possible in a combat situation, but surely if that was what you did, normally, the common wisdom would be ""An AI can operate for seven years red-hot, blazing fast before it falls apart"", rather than, ""An AI will start to fall apart after about seven years, sometimes longer, and it's unavoidable."" Yeah, I just don't get why it's seen as an insurmountable problem with UNSC Smart AI if it's just storage space. Your point about the Domain is of course valid, but I'm sure it's been mentioned it's a pretty sophisticated network that self-corrects and self-repairs data... Does it seem reasonable to you, if my theory is the ""correct"" one (this if fiction ;) that it's using its awesome processing power, memory and transcendental math to regenerate the neural pathways of an AI?? And thanks a ton for your thoughts, actually got me thinking. Also, is there a way for me to change my username?? I just noticed I miss-typed it.","好有趣，我没想到要把简单的空间问题作为一个可行的答案。这仍然无法解释为什么人工智能在正常使用过程中会下降，为什么它们不会被拿走进行深度碎片整理和清理。它们毫无疑问是非常有价值的设备。 另一方面，那两个嵌套的人工智能支持了你的想法；利用农业车辆的计算资源和一种半待机模式，我可以想象一个人工智能会慢慢修剪掉不需要的文件，碎片整理神经网络和压缩信息，为下一轮做准备。这也解释了哈尔西博士能保持卡尔米亚和科塔娜的能力；卡尔米亚14年左右能正常运行，哈尔西一直在不断地调整她，给科塔娜应用所有的升级。她还以某种方式调整了科塔娜，减轻了一些“压力”，在某个时候部分恢复了科塔娜的功能。 另一方面，我还是不太相信。如果只是储存空间… 为什么不加更多的存储空间呢？！飞船是一个很大的地方，考虑到人工智能核心的大小，为什么他们不可以装上五百个高容量硬盘，然后让人工智能放松一下并自我维护一段时间呢。我明白这在战斗情况下可能不可能，但是如果这是通常情况下的做法，普遍的看法应该是“一个人工智能可以在炽热、闪电般的速度下运行七年之后才会崩溃”，而不是，“一个人工智能大约七年之后开始崩溃，有时更长，这是不可避免的”。 是啊，我就是搞不明白，如果只是储存空间，为什么UNSC的智能人工智能问题被视为无法解决的问题。你提到的领域的问题当然是合理的，但我想我也听说它是一个自我纠错和自我修复数据的非常复杂的网络…… 如果我的理论是“正确”的（这只是虚构的；）那么你认为它合理吗，它利用了其强大的处理能力、记忆和超越数学来再生人工智能的神经通路？ 还有，谢谢你的思考。还有，有没有办法让我改我的用户名？我刚刚注意到我打错了。",0 2306,dur5e3v,"I'm doing a little better now that I've slept and it's a new day. Though I spent way too much time going through my comments just to confirm I haven't made a ""user likes x the most"" comment. I do comment about and with those users, but it usually has more to do with the community than the Dokis. I don't know a better way to put it. It's just become a thing that makes it hard to enjoy content because it's like being ignored by a Doki so they can focus on one or two users. I mean, even stupid modders are putting it in their dumb AI (i'm looking at you u/YuriBott, you fake Yuri wannabe). At the core of it, that's been bugging me for awhile and slowly growing. I just had to mention it now before I let it build up anymore. I know it seems random and out of the blue, but I can't help it. I have really bad anxiety and depression, the kind that never goes away. I'm getting treatment from my doctor for it, but at the end of the day it's only treatment, not a cure. Yesterday was one of those bad days. Even though I know it's in my head and I try to stay positive, it gets hard. So venting like this sooner than later can help. Sorry to make you worry. :(","I'm doing a little better now that I've slept and it's a new day. Though I spent way too much time going through my comments just to confirm I haven't made a ""user likes x the most"" comment. I do comment about and with those users, but it usually has more to do with the community than the Dokis. I don't know a better way to put it. It's just become a thing that makes it hard to enjoy content because it's like being ignored by a Doki so they can focus on one or two users. I mean, even stupid modders are putting it in their dumb AI (i'm looking at you uYuriBott, you fake Yuri wannabe). At the core of it, that's been bugging me for awhile and slowly growing. I just had to mention it now before I let it build up anymore. I know it seems random and out of the blue, but I can't help it. I have really bad anxiety and depression, the kind that never goes away. I'm getting treatment from my doctor for it, but at the end of the day it's only treatment, not a cure. Yesterday was one of those bad days. Even though I know it's in my head and I try to stay positive, it gets hard. So venting like this sooner than later can help. Sorry to make you worry. :(","我现在好一点了，睡了一觉，又是新的一天。虽然我花了太多时间去看我的评论，只是为了确认我没有发表“用户最喜欢x”的评论。我确实评论了那些用户，但这通常与社区而不是Dokis有关。 我不知道该怎么说。这变成了一件让我很难享受内容的事情，就好像被Doki忽略了一样，他们只关注其中一两个用户。我的烦恼已经困扰我一段时间了，慢慢地增长。我得在让它积攒更多之前提一下。 我知道这似乎突然而毫无预兆，但我控制不了。我的焦虑和抑郁症很严重，从来没有好过。我正在医生那里接受治疗，但最终，那只是治疗，不是治愈。昨天是糟糕的一天。虽然我知道这只是我的想法，我试图保持积极，但变得很困难。所以及早像这样宣泄一下可能会有帮助。抱歉让你担心。 :(",0 3841,dustf73,"Yeah, I go to a legit doctor for TRT because I'm in my 40s and my T was legitimately low. My doctor's standard prescribed dosage is 100mg a week, with no AI because that's not enough to raise your E2 level significantly. That's a TRT dosage, and I promise that's not what these mass monsters who say they're just on TRT are doing.","Yeah, I go to a legit doctor for TRT because I'm in my 40s and my T was legitimately low. My doctor's standard prescribed dosage is 100mg a week, with no AI because that's not enough to raise your E2 level significantly. That's a TRT dosage, and I promise that's not what these mass monsters who say they're just on TRT are doing.",是的，我因为四十多岁了，我的睾酮水平确实很低，所以我去看了一位正规的医生进行TRT治疗。我的医生标准的建议剂量是每周100毫克，不需要使用AI，因为这个剂量不足以显著提高你的雌二醇水平。这就是TRT的剂量，我向你保证那些说他们只是接受TRT治疗的大块头们并不是在做同样的事情。,0 1,duwjzls,"Hardly. All you need is smart enough tools to allow one programmer to do the work of 2, or 4, or 10. A single doctor paired with a diagnostic AI could put half a dozen other doctors out of work. AI powered reasearch tools have already drastically lowered the need for researchers and paralegals in law firms. You don't need to completely eliminate human labor in an industry to devestate it. And all those people will be trying to move to other industries, including yours, if you're not out of work too. ","Hardly. All you need is smart enough tools to allow one programmer to do the work of 2, or 4, or 10. A single doctor paired with a diagnostic AI could put half a dozen other doctors out of work. AI powered reasearch tools have already drastically lowered the need for researchers and paralegals in law firms. You don't need to completely eliminate human labor in an industry to devestate it. And all those people will be trying to move to other industries, including yours, if you're not out of work too.",不完全是这样。你只需使用足够智能的工具，让一个程序员能够做2个、4个甚至10个人的工作。一个医生配合诊断人工智能就能让其他半打医生失业。人工智能驱动的研究工具已经大大降低了法律公司对研究人员和律师助理的需求。你并不需要完全淘汰某个行业的人力，也能摧毁它。所有这些人将试图转移到其他行业，包括你的行业，如果你也没有工作的话。,1 256,duybo9n,"AI is still based on Human Experience, As You Know Child has adoption rate but as he grows he start to cross questioning and even started to disagree. We Have to Teach AI first & we should teach him for good. However technological advancement still requires alot time. Skychain may use both features of AI as well as contributions from doctors having specific experience in those fields. ","AI is still based on Human Experience, As You Know Child has adoption rate but as he grows he start to cross questioning and even started to disagree. We Have to Teach AI first amp; we should teach him for good. However technological advancement still requires alot time. Skychain may use both features of AI as well as contributions from doctors having specific experience in those fields.",人工智能仍然基于人类经验，就像孩子有被领养的速度，但是当他长大后开始质疑甚至开始反对。我们必须首先教会人工智能，而且要教好他。然而，技术的进步仍需要很多时间。Skychain可能会同时利用人工智能的特点和医生在这些领域具有特定经验的贡献。,0 2093,dv3dto5,"For transportation I did mean entirely free, but with advertisements based on your transportation information. It might not be good for privacy but you wouldn't have to pay for it, at all. I suppose it's possible for the government to get on this, as cheap as it is, or subsidize a private company. But then it's the *government* that knows where you're spending your time - which would probably be the main reason they'd get in on it in the first place. And yes, movies would be hard, but we already have basically unlimited access to ad-supported music via youtube. VR will also make museum-like experiences cheap enough that interested parties (perhaps governments) might be able to provide them with no cost to the end-user. As for healthcare AI, yeah I think eventually surgery robots will be categorically superior to human surgeons. (I don't know how long that will take, but you didn't give a time frame in your post). On the other hand, the vast majority of medical needs (primary care) is probably possible much sooner. You just need a decent sensor suite. The level of AI necessary for replacing a primary care doctor will probably be around in 5-10 years. I can't comment on robotic surgeons. I doubt they'll be something you keep in your home, but a small corner store could keep half-a-dozen around and rent them out for a pittance. Something like the cost of electricity plus an amortized portion of their rent plus amortized maintenance cost plus drugs that were used plus a profit margin. That might sound like a lot but consider that that's already the case for, say, buying a candy bar from a vending machine. The drugs might cost a little more than a candy bar, but a machine can probably use them much more efficiently. This might also benefit from government subsidy, but you could just as easily pool your money with a group of friends to communally own one, giving a break to whichever one of your friends can maintain it. But I doubt we'll ever consider ourselves to be living in a utopia, even if we do build a society that would fit our current definition of it. At least not without adjusting our culture. The hedonic treadmill is a bitch that way. Which is probably why most religions have a, ""be happy with what you have"" element. We are literally wired for nothing to ever be enough in the long run. That has upsides of course. I don't know if society would have progressed without that wiring, but maybe we could achieve a balance.","For transportation I did mean entirely free, but with advertisements based on your transportation information. It might not be good for privacy but you wouldn't have to pay for it, at all. I suppose it's possible for the government to get on this, as cheap as it is, or subsidize a private company. But then it's the government that knows where you're spending your time - which would probably be the main reason they'd get in on it in the first place. And yes, movies would be hard, but we already have basically unlimited access to ad-supported music via youtube. VR will also make museum-like experiences cheap enough that interested parties (perhaps governments) might be able to provide them with no cost to the end-user. As for healthcare AI, yeah I think eventually surgery robots will be categorically superior to human surgeons. (I don't know how long that will take, but you didn't give a time frame in your post). On the other hand, the vast majority of medical needs (primary care) is probably possible much sooner. You just need a decent sensor suite. The level of AI necessary for replacing a primary care doctor will probably be around in 5-10 years. I can't comment on robotic surgeons. I doubt they'll be something you keep in your home, but a small corner store could keep half-a-dozen around and rent them out for a pittance. Something like the cost of electricity plus an amortized portion of their rent plus amortized maintenance cost plus drugs that were used plus a profit margin. That might sound like a lot but consider that that's already the case for, say, buying a candy bar from a vending machine. The drugs might cost a little more than a candy bar, but a machine can probably use them much more efficiently. This might also benefit from government subsidy, but you could just as easily pool your money with a group of friends to communally own one, giving a break to whichever one of your friends can maintain it. But I doubt we'll ever consider ourselves to be living in a utopia, even if we do build a society that would fit our current definition of it. At least not without adjusting our culture. The hedonic treadmill is a bitch that way. Which is probably why most religions have a, ""be happy with what you have"" element. We are literally wired for nothing to ever be enough in the long run. That has upsides of course. I don't know if society would have progressed without that wiring, but maybe we could achieve a balance.","我并不是说完全免费的交通，而是基于你的交通信息来展示广告。这样可能会涉及隐私问题，但你不需要付任何费用。我觉得政府可能会采纳这个方法，因为成本很低，或者对私营公司进行补贴。但这样政府就知道你在哪里花时间了，这可能是他们参与的主要原因。 是的，电影可能会比较困难，但我们已经能够通过YouTube无限制地观看广告支持的音乐了。VR也会让博物馆般的体验变得足够便宜，感兴趣的团体（也许是政府）可能可以免费提供给用户。 至于医疗保健人工智能，我认为最终手术机器人会在质量上远远超过人类外科医生。（我不知道这需要多长时间，但你在帖子中并没有给出时间范围）。另一方面，绝大多数医疗需求（初级护理）可能很快就能实现。你只需要一个体面的传感器套件。取代初级护理医生所需的人工智能水平可能会在5-10年内出现。我无法评论外科机器人。我怀疑它们不会成为你家里的物品，但一个小型便利店可以保留大约六台，并以微不足道的价格出租。类似于电费加上分摊租金的一部分加上分摊维护成本加上所使用的药物成本加上利润率。这听起来可能很多，但考虑到例如从自动贩卖机购买巧克力棒的情况可能已经如此。药物的成本可能比巧克力棒高一点，但机器可能更有效地使用它们。这也可能会受益于政府补贴，但你也可以和一群朋友集资共同拥有一台机器，给那位能够维护它的朋友一个休息。 但我怀疑我们会认为自己生活在乌托邦中，即使我们建立了符合我们当前定义的社会。至少不会在调整我们的文化之前。这种幸福的生活方式可能是为什么大多数宗教中都有“满足于所拥有的”的要素。从长远来看，我们确实是很难满足的。当然，这也有好处。我不知道如果没有这种生存方式，社会是否能够进步，但也许我们可以实现一种平衡。",1 4161,dv3nqbp,"It's definitely a spectrum, but unfortunately I actually am at one end of it. I could be working on an AI whose goal is to devise a more efficient method of clubbing baby seals to death so long as I'm getting paid decent and the benefits are good. The nature of the work is literally not on my list anymore. Too many asshole fanatics that believe everyone should devote their lives to ""the company vision"" have jaded me to that extent. My actual list: 1. Pay 2. Benefits 3. Remote work 4. No after hours work 5. No scrum 6. As few coworkers as possible You could offer me a job curing cancer, but if I have to be on-call and fix Captain Fuck-ups mistakes all the time, stand up and say what I did yesterday while nobody cares or listens, pretend I'm ""family"" with a bunch of workaholics, and deal with office politics about how I'm not a ""team player"" because I had to visit the doctor, then cancer can wait. I'll go club baby seals.","It's definitely a spectrum, but unfortunately I actually am at one end of it. I could be working on an AI whose goal is to devise a more efficient method of clubbing baby seals to death so long as I'm getting paid decent and the benefits are good. The nature of the work is literally not on my list anymore. Too many asshole fanatics that believe everyone should devote their lives to ""the company vision"" have jaded me to that extent. My actual list: 1. Pay 2. Benefits 3. Remote work 4. No after hours work 5. No scrum 6. As few coworkers as possible You could offer me a job curing cancer, but if I have to be on-call and fix Captain Fuck-ups mistakes all the time, stand up and say what I did yesterday while nobody cares or listens, pretend I'm ""family"" with a bunch of workaholics, and deal with office politics about how I'm not a ""team player"" because I had to visit the doctor, then cancer can wait. I'll go club baby seals.","这绝对是一个范围，但不幸的是我确实处在其中的一端。只要薪水好、福利好，我甚至可以从事一个目标是设计更有效的方法去杀幼崽海豹的人工智能。工作的性质已经不在我的考虑列表里了。太多的混蛋狂热分子相信每个人都应该把生活奉献给“公司愿景”，让我对此感到厌倦。 我的实际考虑列表： 1.薪水 2.福利 3.远程工作 4.下班后不工作 5.不参与日常工作会议 6.尽量少的同事 你可以给我提供一个治愈癌症的工作，但如果我需要随时待命并且一直纠正错误，站起来说昨天我做了什么，而没人在乎或倾听，要假装和一群工作狂人是“家人”，还要应付办公室政治，因为我去看了医生而被认为不是“团队合作”，那么癌症可以等等。我宁愿去杀海豹幼崽。",0 2785,dv75vxu,"No, lol. The most intelligent human to ever live will be useless to maintaining the system. You are not immune to this. I don't care how important you think you are, if you don't think you can be relaced by super-human general AI, you simply don't understand what's being discussed. And you don't actually have good reason to assume it's so far away that it's only worth considering in sci-fi. There is nobody in the field that believes that. And you're not appreciating how fast this technology is going to hit us. Already, there will never be another human that is the best chest player in the world, or the best Go player. That title is and always will be held by a computer. Yes, here's a significant difference between that kind of narrow AI and general AI, but once we crack that code it's game over. The AI will almost instantaneously be superhuman, and from then on the best computer programmer, doctor, lawyer, engineer, etc will be a computer. It's called ""universal"" basic income for a reason. If you haven't started thinking about any of this I suggest you do. ","No, lol. The most intelligent human to ever live will be useless to maintaining the system. You are not immune to this. I don't care how important you think you are, if you don't think you can be relaced by super-human general AI, you simply don't understand what's being discussed. And you don't actually have good reason to assume it's so far away that it's only worth considering in sci-fi. There is nobody in the field that believes that. And you're not appreciating how fast this technology is going to hit us. Already, there will never be another human that is the best chest player in the world, or the best Go player. That title is and always will be held by a computer. Yes, here's a significant difference between that kind of narrow AI and general AI, but once we crack that code it's game over. The AI will almost instantaneously be superhuman, and from then on the best computer programmer, doctor, lawyer, engineer, etc will be a computer. It's called ""universal"" basic income for a reason. If you haven't started thinking about any of this I suggest you do.","不，哈哈。有史以来最聪明的人类对于维护这个系统是毫无用处的。你也不例外。我不在乎你觉得自己有多重要，如果你认为自己无法被超级人类智能取代，你根本就不明白我们在讨论什么。 而且你没有充分的理由认为这种技术离我们很遥远，只值得在科幻小说中考虑。领域内没有人相信这一点。而且你没有意识到这项技术将以多快的速度冲击我们。现在就已经不会再有另一个世界上最好的国际象棋玩家或围棋玩家是人类了。这一头衔将永远被计算机所持有。是的，窄人工智能和通用人工智能之间有重要的区别，但一旦我们破译了这个代码，这场游戏就结束了。人工智能几乎立即就会超越人类，从那时起，最优秀的电脑程序员、医生、律师、工程师等都将是电脑。 它被称为“全面”基本收入是有原因的。如果你还没有开始考虑这些，我建议你开始思考。",1 3133,dv9du5e,"Industrial AI age Robo drivers. Robo clerks. Robo tellers. Robo lawyers. Robo doctors. Armed drones. 3D printers. Personal food synthesizer… Only available jobs are personal services for rich. Prostitution basically. The Universal Basic Income is enough only for very humble living. Sea containers instead of houses. Rationing. Synthetic food. Recycling everything. Excrement market. Drugs are legal. Most people just getting high, eat, shit and playing VR games Hordes of illegals looking for UBI. Counter measures: lack of privacy, mass surveillance, social scoring, revoking citizenship and violent robo raids on illegals.","Industrial AI age Robo drivers. Robo clerks. Robo tellers. Robo lawyers. Robo doctors. Armed drones. 3D printers. Personal food synthesizer Only available jobs are personal services for rich. Prostitution basically. The Universal Basic Income is enough only for very humble living. Sea containers instead of houses. Rationing. Synthetic food. Recycling everything. Excrement market. Drugs are legal. Most people just getting high, eat, shit and playing VR games Hordes of illegals looking for UBI. Counter measures: lack of privacy, mass surveillance, social scoring, revoking citizenship and violent robo raids on illegals.","工业人工智能时代 机器司机。机器办事员。机器出纳员。机器律师。机器医生。武装的无人机。3D打印机。个人食物合成器… 唯一的工作是为富人提供个人服务。基本上就是卖淫。 普遍基本收入只够过非常朴素的生活。海运集装箱代替房子。配给制。合成食品。一切再循环利用。排泄物市场。 毒品合法。大多数人只是高了，吃了，拉了，在玩VR游戏。 成群的非法移民寻求普遍基本收入。 反制措施：缺乏隐私、大规模监视、社会评分、取消公民身份以及对非法移民实施暴力机器人突袭。",0 1477,dv9zvid,cant wait for doctors to be replaced by AI. human doctors now give canned answers or literally google symptoms right in front of you,cant wait for doctors to be replaced by AI. human doctors now give canned answers or literally google symptoms right in front of you,迫不及待地等着AI取代医生。人类医生现在都是给标准答案或者就在你面前直接谷歌症状。,1 3310,dvdz9l4,"If this was happening prior to the silicon revolution then I would be inclined to agree with you, however we are seeing tremendous progress with AI and automation to the point that even jobs (and in some cases entire fields) long considered ""safe"" from automation are starting to see new disruptive technologies developed that bring their safety into question. For example, with the advent of self-driving semi trucks, there will be new jobs created for people with the technical skills and training to ride along in the trucks in case something happens that requires human intervention, but those skills and that training is far beyond the relatively simple process of obtaining your CDL and starting to drive commercially. In oncology, we see more and more doctors and even entire hospital systems starting to rely on AI advancements such as IBM's Watson to develop special, personally attenuated treatments for cancer patients based on their genetic profile and tons of other data, leading to treatments that have improved cancer remission rates even beyond what panels of human doctors have attained. Unfortunately, it is no longer a question of a reduced population leading to more jobs available for those left, because we are losing jobs to automation at a much faster rate than the Boomers and Gen X'ers are leaving the job market. [Yuval Harari](http://www.ynharari.com/wef2018/) had some very provocative insights on this and related issues at this year's World Economic Forum.","If this was happening prior to the silicon revolution then I would be inclined to agree with you, however we are seeing tremendous progress with AI and automation to the point that even jobs (and in some cases entire fields) long considered ""safe"" from automation are starting to see new disruptive technologies developed that bring their safety into question. For example, with the advent of self-driving semi trucks, there will be new jobs created for people with the technical skills and training to ride along in the trucks in case something happens that requires human intervention, but those skills and that training is far beyond the relatively simple process of obtaining your CDL and starting to drive commercially. In oncology, we see more and more doctors and even entire hospital systems starting to rely on AI advancements such as IBM's Watson to develop special, personally attenuated treatments for cancer patients based on their genetic profile and tons of other data, leading to treatments that have improved cancer remission rates even beyond what panels of human doctors have attained. Unfortunately, it is no longer a question of a reduced population leading to more jobs available for those left, because we are losing jobs to automation at a much faster rate than the Boomers and Gen X'ers are leaving the job market. Yuval Harari(http:www.ynharari.comwef2018) had some very provocative insights on this and related issues at this year's World Economic Forum.",如果这是在硅谷革命之前发生的事情，我可能会同意你的看法，但是现在我们看到AI和自动化取得了巨大进步，甚至那些长期被认为是“安全”的工作（甚至是整个领域）也开始出现了新的颠覆性技术，使他们的安全性受到质疑。例如，随着自动驾驶卡车的出现，将会为那些具有技术技能和培训的人创造新的工作，以便在卡车上随车并在需要人工干预时采取行动，但这些技能和培训远远超出了相对简单的获取CDL驾照和开始商业驾驶的流程。在肿瘤学领域，我们看到越来越多的医生甚至整个医院系统开始依赖AI的进步，比如IBM的沃森，根据癌症患者的基因概况和大量其他数据来开发特殊的个性化治疗方案，导致治疗的癌症缓解率甚至超过了人类医生的评估。不幸的是，这不再是一个人口减少导致留给剩下的人更多工作的问题，因为我们正在以比婴儿潮一代和X一代离开工作市场更快的速度失去工作。[尤瓦尔·赫拉利](http://www.ynharari.com/wef2018/)在今年世界经济论坛上就这个问题及相关问题提出了一些非常有启发性的见解。,1 339,dvf644c,"1. They do. They collect some labs (e.g., Paps, biopsies) and sometimes analyze them (e.g., pathologists) 2. The physical examination is more than a “cough” test and in fact includes things you can’t do yourself like shining a light into your eyes or hearing your lung sounds (that would be really hard to do!) AI, while important and helpful in diagnosis, cannot replace the human interaction that physicians have - that people would want to talk to and connect a human being rather than an algorithm.","1. They do. They collect some labs (e.g., Paps, biopsies) and sometimes analyze them (e.g., pathologists) 2. The physical examination is more than a cough test and in fact includes things you cant do yourself like shining a light into your eyes or hearing your lung sounds (that would be really hard to do!) AI, while important and helpful in diagnosis, cannot replace the human interaction that physicians have - that people would want to talk to and connect a human being rather than an algorithm.","1. 他们会。他们会收集一些实验室检查（例如涂片、活检），有时还会进行分析（例如病理学家）。 2. 体格检查不仅仅是一个“咳嗽”测试，实际上还包括一些自己无法做的事情，比如照亮你的眼睛或听你的肺部声音（那样真的很难做到！） 人工智能在诊断上虽然很重要和有帮助，但不能取代医生的人际互动 - 人们更愿意与人交谈并建立联系，而不是算法。",1 2599,dvj344u,"Do you need EQ as a lawyer, doctor or a banker? Sure you need EQ to get those jobs in the first place but is there anything in particular about these jobs that require human emotions? Bankers used to actually do banking once upon a time. Now the actual ""banking"" is done by computers and bankers are effectively doing sales. The same thing is going to happen to medicine, law, and every single industry out there. It's just a matter of time. >I don't think machines will be replacing us humans. They already are. It's ironic that you bring up EQ because your argument is an emotional one and not a logical one. I'm sorry but the truth isn't what you feel or want it to be. I suggest reading up on machine learning and IBM Watson. Fact of the matter is there isn't a job that computers and robots can't do better in the near future. But of course if you're thinking along the lines of those wishy washy sales representative that need to be cunning and persuasive to get sales then yeah, you'll think the human element is still essential. But yet again, it's only a matter of time before AI matches and even surpasses the human being at every single job there is.","Do you need EQ as a lawyer, doctor or a banker? Sure you need EQ to get those jobs in the first place but is there anything in particular about these jobs that require human emotions? Bankers used to actually do banking once upon a time. Now the actual ""banking"" is done by computers and bankers are effectively doing sales. The same thing is going to happen to medicine, law, and every single industry out there. It's just a matter of time. gt;I don't think machines will be replacing us humans. They already are. It's ironic that you bring up EQ because your argument is an emotional one and not a logical one. I'm sorry but the truth isn't what you feel or want it to be. I suggest reading up on machine learning and IBM Watson. Fact of the matter is there isn't a job that computers and robots can't do better in the near future. But of course if you're thinking along the lines of those wishy washy sales representative that need to be cunning and persuasive to get sales then yeah, you'll think the human element is still essential. But yet again, it's only a matter of time before AI matches and even surpasses the human being at every single job there is.","你说，律师、医生或银行家需要情商吗？当然，首先要靠情商才能得到这些工作，但是这些工作有没有特别需要人类情感的地方呢？银行家过去确实做过银行业务，但现在实际的“银行业务”是由计算机来做的，银行家实际上在做销售。同样的情况也会发生在医学、法律和所有其他行业。只是时间的问题。 >我不认为机器会取代我们人类。 它们已经在做了。 你提到情商很讽刺，因为你的观点是情感上的，而不是逻辑上的。抱歉，但事实并不取决于你的感受或愿望。 我建议你研究一下机器学习和IBM沃森。事实是，在不久的将来，没有一种工作是计算机和机器人不能做得更好的。当然，如果你是在考虑那些需要狡猾和说服力来获得销售的软弱销售代表，那么你可能会认为人类因素仍然是至关重要的。但再过不了多久，人工智能将匹敌甚至超越人类的每一种工作。",1 4138,dvll2ej,"Other countries have well-paid medical professionals compared to their average populations, but they're not nearly as well compensated as American medical professionals. Also, insurance companies make lousy villains with an average profit margin of 3%. They're not the reason why medical and rx costs are so high. Insurance companies have an average loss ratio of 85-92%. That means 85-92% of all premiums go into the pockets of providers. Outsourcing their function to the government won't cut cost, since insurance companies are already operating at Razer thin margins. I know you guys don't want to hear this, but the reason why medical costs are out of control is due to medical professionals and provider organizations like hospitals and pharmaceutical companies, not insurance companies. Health insurance companies are the only companies in healthcare that are running efficiently with small profit margins. Everyone else either has bloated salaries (Doctors , hospital admins, and pharmacists) or high profit margins (Rx companies with their 25% margins). Incoming downvotes. Whether you pharmacists want to admit it or not, the problem with healthcare costs comes down to providers running extremely inefficiently or pricing very greedily. Pharmacist salaries are part of the problem, but with automation and saturation reducing the demand for pharmacists, I don't think it'll be a problem for much longer. Automation and AI will allow a couple pharmacists to become as productive as 50 pharmacists without AI. Current pharmacists may continue to earn their $100k incomes, but wages will remain stagnant indefinitely and there will be far fewer openings. The biggest issue, imo, are the doctors. Their entire credentialing system is designed to create a significant shortage in labor. It's allowed mega hospitals to monopolize many town's supply of doctors, and it lets them price at monopoly-like levels. It's more than just doctor and pharmacist compensation. It's the chain reaction that forms due to the protections each have put in their own professions. The medical industry needs to be flooded with way more doctors.","Other countries have well-paid medical professionals compared to their average populations, but they're not nearly as well compensated as American medical professionals. Also, insurance companies make lousy villains with an average profit margin of 3. They're not the reason why medical and rx costs are so high. Insurance companies have an average loss ratio of 85-92. That means 85-92 of all premiums go into the pockets of providers. Outsourcing their function to the government won't cut cost, since insurance companies are already operating at Razer thin margins. I know you guys don't want to hear this, but the reason why medical costs are out of control is due to medical professionals and provider organizations like hospitals and pharmaceutical companies, not insurance companies. Health insurance companies are the only companies in healthcare that are running efficiently with small profit margins. Everyone else either has bloated salaries (Doctors , hospital admins, and pharmacists) or high profit margins (Rx companies with their 25 margins). Incoming downvotes. Whether you pharmacists want to admit it or not, the problem with healthcare costs comes down to providers running extremely inefficiently or pricing very greedily. Pharmacist salaries are part of the problem, but with automation and saturation reducing the demand for pharmacists, I don't think it'll be a problem for much longer. Automation and AI will allow a couple pharmacists to become as productive as 50 pharmacists without AI. Current pharmacists may continue to earn their 100k incomes, but wages will remain stagnant indefinitely and there will be far fewer openings. The biggest issue, imo, are the doctors. Their entire credentialing system is designed to create a significant shortage in labor. It's allowed mega hospitals to monopolize many town's supply of doctors, and it lets them price at monopoly-like levels. It's more than just doctor and pharmacist compensation. It's the chain reaction that forms due to the protections each have put in their own professions. The medical industry needs to be flooded with way more doctors.","其他国家相较于其平均人口，医疗专业人员的报酬都很高，但他们的报酬远不及美国的医疗专业人员。 另外，保险公司的平均利润率为3%，并不是医疗和药品成本高的原因。保险公司的平均亏损率为85-92%。这意味着保费的85-92%都流入了提供者的口袋。把他们的职能外包给政府不会削减成本，因为保险公司已经在极薄的利润率上运营。 我知道大家不愿意听，但医疗成本失控是因为医疗专业人员和医院、制药公司等提供者组织，而不是因为保险公司。 健康保险公司是医疗卫生领域唯一高效运营并带有小利润率的公司。其他所有人要么工资过高（医生、医院管理人员和药剂师），要么利润率过高（利润率达到25%的药品公司）。 即将有人给我负面评价。 无论你们药剂师愿不愿意承认，医疗成本问题归根结底是由提供者极其低效运营或者极具贪婪定价造成的。 药剂师的工资是问题的一部分，但随着自动化和市场饱和减少了对药剂师的需求，我认为这个问题不久会消失。自动化和人工智能将使一对药剂师的生产力相当于没有人工智能的50个药剂师。目前的药剂师可能会继续获得10万美元的收入，但工资会无限期停滞，职位也会减少很多。 在我看来，最大的问题是医生。他们的整个准入制度旨在造成劳动力严重短缺。这使得大型医院垄断了许多城镇的医生供应，并让他们以垄断水平定价。问题不仅仅是医生和药剂师的报酬，还有因为每个职业保护措施而形成的连锁反应。 医疗行业需要涌入更多的医生。",1 4608,dvrmtfd,"I was about to comment almost exactly this but I'd like to add something else. Some of the jobs OP mentioned are not quite possible to be automated. For example, a good teacher will be interesting as well as teach the material. Advanced AI might be able to diagnose certain illnesses, but doctors will be needed for more advanced situations. A computer can only think in one way while a human is more versatile and better at many things. ","I was about to comment almost exactly this but I'd like to add something else. Some of the jobs OP mentioned are not quite possible to be automated. For example, a good teacher will be interesting as well as teach the material. Advanced AI might be able to diagnose certain illnesses, but doctors will be needed for more advanced situations. A computer can only think in one way while a human is more versatile and better at many things.",我本来就打算差不多是这样评论的，但我想再补充一点。楼主提到的一些工作几乎不太可能被自动化。比如，一个好老师不仅能让课程有趣，还能教好知识。尖端的人工智能也许能够诊断某些疾病，但在更复杂的情况下还是需要医生。电脑只能单一地思考，而人类更加多才多艺，在许多方面表现得更好。,1 4746,dvuzdmu,"> While this discussion is not specifically the same, Automation will take some jobs, but other jobs can be created too. Farming automation did not take away 100% the need for workers to harvest some crops. ( just one example ) edit to add just as automating Food Processing/canning warehouses, didn't take the need away for workers in those fields either. The OP article addresses this explicitly in the section ""Sleeping Through a Wake Up Call"" and interspersed elsewhere. Trends don't seem to indicate we'll be creating more jobs. I'd also argue that you could rationalize that conclusion with first principles (but the historical trends are good evidence). AI generally starts displacing low-skill work first. Before, the displaced workers in e.g. agriculture could go elsewhere to an industry that needed similarly skilled laborers. But where do the low-skill / low-education drivers, retail workers, oil workers, and factory laborers go when tons of low-skill jobs are now unavailable? Also, what happens if/when high-skill work starts becoming automated? I doubt e.g. doctors will be entirely replaced with AI anytime in the next couple generation or so, but certainly there is room to take over some medical duties. This could thus even affect high-skill employment eventually. Further, yes entirely new jobs will be created, but companies wouldn't be investing in AI with the goal to replace current employees if that meant they would have to employ more just to cover the AI. As a specific example, it's unreasonable to think that the number of ""AI mechanics"" (in whatever form they take) needed to service a fleet of self-driving trucks is going to be anywhere near the number of displaced truckers. But again, the article spells this out probably better than I do and with data. Note that I'm not advocating for UBI. I just want to stress that the idea that we can settle economic issues from automation the same as any historic technological revolution may not be accurate.","gt; While this discussion is not specifically the same, Automation will take some jobs, but other jobs can be created too. Farming automation did not take away 100 the need for workers to harvest some crops. ( just one example ) edit to add just as automating Food Processingcanning warehouses, didn't take the need away for workers in those fields either. The OP article addresses this explicitly in the section ""Sleeping Through a Wake Up Call"" and interspersed elsewhere. Trends don't seem to indicate we'll be creating more jobs. I'd also argue that you could rationalize that conclusion with first principles (but the historical trends are good evidence). AI generally starts displacing low-skill work first. Before, the displaced workers in e.g. agriculture could go elsewhere to an industry that needed similarly skilled laborers. But where do the low-skill low-education drivers, retail workers, oil workers, and factory laborers go when tons of low-skill jobs are now unavailable? Also, what happens ifwhen high-skill work starts becoming automated? I doubt e.g. doctors will be entirely replaced with AI anytime in the next couple generation or so, but certainly there is room to take over some medical duties. This could thus even affect high-skill employment eventually. Further, yes entirely new jobs will be created, but companies wouldn't be investing in AI with the goal to replace current employees if that meant they would have to employ more just to cover the AI. As a specific example, it's unreasonable to think that the number of ""AI mechanics"" (in whatever form they take) needed to service a fleet of self-driving trucks is going to be anywhere near the number of displaced truckers. But again, the article spells this out probably better than I do and with data. Note that I'm not advocating for UBI. I just want to stress that the idea that we can settle economic issues from automation the same as any historic technological revolution may not be accurate.","尽管这种讨论并非完全相同，自动化确实会夺走一些工作，但也会创造出其他工作。举个例子，农业自动化并没有完全夺走工人收割作物的需求。另外就像自动化食品加工/罐头厂房一样，并没有完全消除这些领域工人的需求。 OP的文章在“沉睡中的警钟”部分以及其他地方明确提到了这一点。趋势似乎并不表明我们将创造更多的工作。 我还要坚持认为，你可以从首要原则来理解这个结论（但历史趋势是很好的证据）。AI通常首先开始取代低技能工作。以前，在农业等领域被取代的工人可以去别处，到需要类似技能劳动者的行业。但是当大量低技能工作不再可得时，低技能/低教育司机、零售工人、石油工人和工厂工人该何去何从？而且，当高技能工作开始被自动化时会发生什么？我怀疑比如说，医生在未来几代人内完全被AI取代的可能性不大，但肯定有可能接管一部分医务职责。这最终可能影响高技能就业。 另外，确实会创造出全新的工作，但公司并不会投资于AI，希望通过替代当前员工来创造更多岗位。举个具体例子，一个公司不太可能投资开发“AI机械师”（以任何形式出现）来维护一群自动驾驶卡车，数量远远不及被取代的卡车司机。 不过，文章很可能比我表述得更好，而且还有数据支持。 请注意，我并不是在主张实行普遍基本收入。我只是想强调，我们不能像处理历史上的技术革命那样从自动化中解决经济问题。",0 4433,dvv6tp9,"discuss alternatives to seroquel with your doctor, there are AI's with more tolerable side effects","discuss alternatives to seroquel with your doctor, there are AI's with more tolerable side effects",和你的医生讨论抗精神病药物Seroquel的替代选择，有一些AI药物的副作用更容易忍受。,0 641,dvvlx9d,"Right off the top of my head I can think of two relatively recent examples: (1) *The Real Singapore*'s Takagi Ai doctored contributors' posts in order to falsely claim that a Filipino family was interfering with a Thaipusam procession. This had the potential to ""promote feelings of ill-will and hostility"" among different groups of people in Singapore. [Source 1 (State Courts)](https://www.statecourts.gov.sg/Resources/Documents/23032016%20Oral%20GD%20-%20PP%20v%20Ai%20Takagi.pdf) | [Source 2 (CNA)](https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/former-trs-editor-ai-takagi-pleads-guilty-to-manufacturing-artic-8158490) | [Source 3 (ST)](http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/courts-crime/trs-case-nurse-says-her-account-of-thaipusam-case-altered) &nbsp; (2) In relation to the Benjamin Lim case, *The Online Citizen* falsely claimed that police officers went to the Benjamin's school in polo t-shirts with the word ""police"" on them in an article published after SPF had already stated they went to the school in plain clothes. This implied that the police were lying to the public, which could have affected public confidence in SPF. The statement was eventually proven false when the source of the claim (a parent in the school) admitted that she got the dates mixed up. TOC had also published other false allegations such as the claim that Benjamin was interviewed and intimidated by five officers, and had been coerced into admitting that he committed the offence, implying that he was driven to commit suicide because of the way the case was handled by the police. [Source 1 (The Independent)](http://www.theindependent.sg/death-of-benjamin-lim-minister-shanmugam-slammed-toc-for-putting-out-false-statements/) | [Source 2 (Mothership)](https://mothership.sg/2016/03/home-affairs-minister-gives-mhas-side-of-the-story-in-the-benjamin-lim-case/) | [Source 3 (Asiaone)](http://www.asiaone.com/singapore/benjamin-lim-case-facts-falsehoods) | [Source 4 (CNA)](https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/the-benjamin-lim-case-what-happened-on-jan-25-and-26-8174216) | [Source 5 (ST)](http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/benjamin-lim-case-toc-denies-deliberately-misleading-the-public)","Right off the top of my head I can think of two relatively recent examples: (1) The Real Singapore's Takagi Ai doctored contributors' posts in order to falsely claim that a Filipino family was interfering with a Thaipusam procession. This had the potential to ""promote feelings of ill-will and hostility"" among different groups of people in Singapore. Source 1 (State Courts)(https:www.statecourts.gov.sgResourcesDocuments2303201620Oral20GD20-20PP20v20Ai20Takagi.pdf) Source 2 (CNA)(https:www.channelnewsasia.comnewssingaporeformer-trs-editor-ai-takagi-pleads-guilty-to-manufacturing-artic-8158490) Source 3 (ST)(http:www.straitstimes.comsingaporecourts-crimetrs-case-nurse-says-her-account-of-thaipusam-case-altered) amp;nbsp; (2) In relation to the Benjamin Lim case, The Online Citizen falsely claimed that police officers went to the Benjamin's school in polo t-shirts with the word ""police"" on them in an article published after SPF had already stated they went to the school in plain clothes. This implied that the police were lying to the public, which could have affected public confidence in SPF. The statement was eventually proven false when the source of the claim (a parent in the school) admitted that she got the dates mixed up. TOC had also published other false allegations such as the claim that Benjamin was interviewed and intimidated by five officers, and had been coerced into admitting that he committed the offence, implying that he was driven to commit suicide because of the way the case was handled by the police. Source 1 (The Independent)(http:www.theindependent.sgdeath-of-benjamin-lim-minister-shanmugam-slammed-toc-for-putting-out-false-statements) Source 2 (Mothership)(https:mothership.sg201603home-affairs-minister-gives-mhas-side-of-the-story-in-the-benjamin-lim-case) Source 3 (Asiaone)(http:www.asiaone.comsingaporebenjamin-lim-case-facts-falsehoods) Source 4 (CNA)(https:www.channelnewsasia.comnewssingaporethe-benjamin-lim-case-what-happened-on-jan-25-and-26-8174216) Source 5 (ST)(http:www.straitstimes.comsingaporebenjamin-lim-case-toc-denies-deliberately-misleading-the-public)","我脑海里马上想到了两个比较近期的例子： 1. 在 *The Real Singapore*的案例中，Takagi Ai篡改了投稿者的帖子，虚假地声称一个菲律宾家庭干扰了泰蒲森节的游行。这有潜力在新加坡不同的群体之间“制造敌意和敌对情绪”。 2. 关于本杰明·林案件，*The Online Citizen*错误声称警察在Benjamin的学校穿着带有“警察”字样的POLO衫，这是在新加坡警察部队已经声明他们当时是穿便装去学校的情况下发表的文章。这意味着警察对公众撒谎，这可能影响了公众对新加坡警察部队的信心。当事实证明这个声明是错误的时候，这个声明的来源（学校的家长）承认她搞混了日期。 TOC还公布了其他错误指控，比如声称警方对本杰明进行了五个警官的讯问和威胁，并被迫承认犯罪，这意味着他因为警方处理案件的方式而被逼自杀。 希望这些信息对你有所帮助。",0 1670,dvxe87m,Just wait till robot/AI doctors arrive in full force. 25 years from now a doctor’s visit could be a very different experience.,Just wait till robotAI doctors arrive in full force. 25 years from now a doctors visit could be a very different experience.,就等着看吧，等到机器人/人工智能医生全面到来。再过25年，看医生可能会是完全不同的体验。,1 167,dw4r0ob,Bring on the AI doctors. I already feel like the taxes we pay don't get us good quality care. I've had minor surgeries that I had to wait a year+ for and accessing certain avenues related to mental health is frustratingly difficult. Family & friends have flown to other countries to get procedures done (some involving stem cell treatments) that aren't even available here. The whole bureaucracy and various doctors boards are bloated. Doctors would be unwilling to take pay cuts but also schools refuse to train more doctors. All it means is that we're going to have to pay more one way or another.,Bring on the AI doctors. I already feel like the taxes we pay don't get us good quality care. I've had minor surgeries that I had to wait a year for and accessing certain avenues related to mental health is frustratingly difficult. Family amp; friends have flown to other countries to get procedures done (some involving stem cell treatments) that aren't even available here. The whole bureaucracy and various doctors boards are bloated. Doctors would be unwilling to take pay cuts but also schools refuse to train more doctors. All it means is that we're going to have to pay more one way or another.,AI医生出来吧。我觉得我们交的税根本换不到好质量的医疗。我必须等待一年多才能做一些小手术，有些与心理健康有关的途径也很难获得。家人和朋友为了做手术（有些涉及干细胞治疗）甚至飞到其他国家去，这种治疗在我们这里都得不到。整个官僚机构和各种医生协会都膨胀了。医生不愿意减薪，而学校也拒绝培养更多的医生。这意味着我们不管怎样都要付出更多的费用。,1 276,dwbczhm,"In a general sense, yes. We also need to be sympathetic to the victims of creative destruction whose lives are ruined through no fault of their own. I doubt we disagree on that, but it's always important to keep that in our thoughts. I DO feel like there is a coming transformation that will completely turn the world upside down. At some point AI will develop such that NO human work product will have the quality of an AI produced product. Robot doctors, engineers, scientists, architects will all be smarter, faster, cheaper than their human equivalents. The only value a human can have at that point is literally being human. All sorts of science fiction has been written to examine the repercussions, but it's very bizarre to consider from an economics-trained viewpoint. Everything we're taught about labor and capital doesn't really make sense when humans are just consumptive meatbags suckling on the teat of the post-scarcity robo-economy.","In a general sense, yes. We also need to be sympathetic to the victims of creative destruction whose lives are ruined through no fault of their own. I doubt we disagree on that, but it's always important to keep that in our thoughts. I DO feel like there is a coming transformation that will completely turn the world upside down. At some point AI will develop such that NO human work product will have the quality of an AI produced product. Robot doctors, engineers, scientists, architects will all be smarter, faster, cheaper than their human equivalents. The only value a human can have at that point is literally being human. All sorts of science fiction has been written to examine the repercussions, but it's very bizarre to consider from an economics-trained viewpoint. Everything we're taught about labor and capital doesn't really make sense when humans are just consumptive meatbags suckling on the teat of the post-scarcity robo-economy.","大致上是，对，我们也需要同情那些无辜受到创造性破坏影响的受害者。我觉得我们在这一点上并不是不同意，但是我们总是要记住这个。 我感觉到一个即将到来的转变会完全颠覆世界。在某个时候，人工智能将发展到这样的程度，没有人类的工作成果能达到人工智能的品质。机器医生、工程师、科学家、建筑师都会比他们人类的等价物更聪明、更快、更便宜。在那时，人类唯一的价值就是做人类。有各种各样的科幻小说来探讨这些后果，但从经济训练的观点来考虑这个问题，确实很奇怪。 当人类只是在后资源匮乏的机器人经济中作为消耗性的肉袋子存在时，我们所学的关于劳动和资本的一切就变得毫无意义。",1 1819,dwci22w,"Everyone has said this about all knowledge based professions. Lawyers, doctors, engineers etc... our AI systems are so far off from being able to aggregate all these and create adequate results its not even close.","Everyone has said this about all knowledge based professions. Lawyers, doctors, engineers etc... our AI systems are so far off from being able to aggregate all these and create adequate results its not even close.",每个人都谈论过所有知识型专业，比如律师、医生、工程师等等... 我们的人工智能系统还远远不能够整合所有这些知识并得出足够的结果，根本就不接近。,1 4976,dwd15ga,"This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://spectrum.ieee.org/the-human-os/biomedical/diagnostics/ai-cardiologist-aces-its-first-medical-exam) reduced by 86%. (I'm a bot) ***** > With experimental artificial intelligence systems making such rapid progress in the medical realm, particularly on tasks involving medical images, Arnaout does see the potential for big changes in her profession. > Typically the cardiologist would look at a relatively high-resolution video of the echocardiogram, showing a shifting image captured as the imaging tool was moved around the patient&#039;s chest. > The AI only performed this first step in the analysis of a heart image and the making of a diagnosis. ***** [**Extended Summary**](http://np.reddit.com/r/autotldr/comments/87igip/a_neural_network_outperforms_human_cardiologists/) | [FAQ](http://np.reddit.com/r/autotldr/comments/31b9fm/faq_autotldr_bot/ ""Version 2.00, ~303236 tl;drs so far."") | [Feedback](http://np.reddit.com/message/compose?to=%23autotldr ""PM's and comments are monitored, constructive feedback is welcome."") | *Top* *keywords*: **image**^#1 **cardiologist**^#2 **Arnaout**^#3 **heart**^#4 **out**^#5","This is the best tl;dr I could make, original(https:spectrum.ieee.orgthe-human-osbiomedicaldiagnosticsai-cardiologist-aces-its-first-medical-exam) reduced by 86. (I'm a bot) gt; With experimental artificial intelligence systems making such rapid progress in the medical realm, particularly on tasks involving medical images, Arnaout does see the potential for big changes in her profession. gt; Typically the cardiologist would look at a relatively high-resolution video of the echocardiogram, showing a shifting image captured as the imaging tool was moved around the patientamp;039;s chest. gt; The AI only performed this first step in the analysis of a heart image and the making of a diagnosis. Extended Summary(http:np.reddit.comrautotldrcomments87igipaneuralnetworkoutperformshumancardiologists) FAQ(http:np.reddit.comrautotldrcomments31b9fmfaqautotldrbot ""Version 2.00, 303236 tl;drs so far."") Feedback(http:np.reddit.commessagecompose?to23autotldr ""PM's and comments are monitored, constructive feedback is welcome."") Top keywords: image1 cardiologist2 Arnaout3 heart4 out5","这是我可以做到的最好的摘要，[原文](https://spectrum.ieee.org/the-human-os/biomedical/diagnostics/ai-cardiologist-aces-its-first-medical-exam) 减少了86%。(我是一个机器人) 特别是在涉及医学影像的任务上，实验性的人工智能系统在医学领域取得了如此迅猛的进展，Arnaout确实看到了她的职业可能发生重大变化的潜力。 通常，心脏病专家会观看一个相对高分辨率的超声心动图视频，显示了在探测工具在病人胸部周围移动时捕捉到的移动图像。 这个人工智能只在心脏图像的分析和诊断的第一步中表现出色。 [**扩展摘要**](http://np.reddit.com/r/autotldr/comments/87igip/a_neural_network_outperforms_human_cardiologists/) | [FAQ](http://np.reddit.com/r/autotldr/comments/31b9fm/faq_autotldr_bot/ ""版本2.00，到目前为止约303236个摘要。"") | [反馈](http://np.reddit.com/message/compose?to=%23autotldr ""PM 和评论都有监控，欢迎提出建设性反馈。"") | *热门* *关键词*： **图像**^#1 **心脏病专家**^#2 **Arnaout**^#3 **心脏**^#4 **完成**^#5",1 3255,dwd7aw8,"> It was merely a thought exercise to show that genuine emotions can be simulated. I agree that sophisticated emotion simulation can produce an effect indistingable from real emotions on a superficial level, such as with the Doctor, so you or Janeway can be excused for your emotions based desire to give the Doctor 'real' status. But the scientific fact remains; his emotions and desire to grow are a simulation, albeit a convincing one. He might be AI but he will never be life.","gt; It was merely a thought exercise to show that genuine emotions can be simulated. I agree that sophisticated emotion simulation can produce an effect indistingable from real emotions on a superficial level, such as with the Doctor, so you or Janeway can be excused for your emotions based desire to give the Doctor 'real' status. But the scientific fact remains; his emotions and desire to grow are a simulation, albeit a convincing one. He might be AI but he will never be life.","这只是一种思维练习，表明真实的情感可以被模拟出来。 我同意，复杂的情感模拟可以在表面上产生一种与真实情感难以区分的效果，比如像医生这样的人工智能，所以你或者简为了你们基于情感的愿望给予医生“真实”地位是可以理解的。但科学事实依然存在；他的情感和渴望成长只是一种模拟，尽管是一种令人信服的模拟。他可能是人工智能，但他永远不会有生命。",1 3273,dwksm4p,Doctors and lawyers are being replaced by AI? Cite your sources please.,Doctors and lawyers are being replaced by AI? Cite your sources please.,医生和律师都要被人工智能取代了？请举出你的依据。,1 1914,dwku51k,"but these cases reach an impressive goal. They can use big data to uncover correlations which a human doctor would have to learn over years of time. The most valuable expertise a doctor has is experience. There are simply no hotshot stars in medicine. Maybe in the academic field, but not in practice. Each and every doctor needs an individial amount of experience to correctly diagnose patients. Best example is chest x rays. Machine learning and doctors basically work the same way. If you feed them enough chest x rays and give them a sense of what these pictures are (pneumonia, tumor etc), they will be able to see these patterns in other images too. The whole problem on machine learning and AI in medicine is, that data is not collected in a machine-readable way, and the whole privacy concerns. Just think about how good a non-self-learning simple ECG machine describes your ECG. Most of the time, they are correct. They are even that good, that doctors rely on the timings the machine prints (QRS, QT, PQ) Just imagine what you could do with machine learning when you feed them tons of ECGs when even our 15 year old offline ECG device can describe the ECG correctly most of the time. This is particularly interesting for 24h ECGs and seldom heartdiseases. I don't know why noone tries this. Probably because of privacy issues, which are understandable, but ultimately need to be reformed. ","but these cases reach an impressive goal. They can use big data to uncover correlations which a human doctor would have to learn over years of time. The most valuable expertise a doctor has is experience. There are simply no hotshot stars in medicine. Maybe in the academic field, but not in practice. Each and every doctor needs an individial amount of experience to correctly diagnose patients. Best example is chest x rays. Machine learning and doctors basically work the same way. If you feed them enough chest x rays and give them a sense of what these pictures are (pneumonia, tumor etc), they will be able to see these patterns in other images too. The whole problem on machine learning and AI in medicine is, that data is not collected in a machine-readable way, and the whole privacy concerns. Just think about how good a non-self-learning simple ECG machine describes your ECG. Most of the time, they are correct. They are even that good, that doctors rely on the timings the machine prints (QRS, QT, PQ) Just imagine what you could do with machine learning when you feed them tons of ECGs when even our 15 year old offline ECG device can describe the ECG correctly most of the time. This is particularly interesting for 24h ECGs and seldom heartdiseases. I don't know why noone tries this. Probably because of privacy issues, which are understandable, but ultimately need to be reformed.","但是这些案例达到了一个令人印象深刻的目标。他们可以利用大数据来发现人类医生需要花费多年时间才能学到的相关性。 医生最宝贵的专业知识就是经验。在医学领域，没有所谓的大牌明星。也许在学术领域有，但在实践中没有。每一位医生都需要足够的经验才能正确诊断病人。最好的例子就是胸部X光片。 机器学习和医生基本上是一样的。如果你给它们足够的胸部X光片，并让它们了解这些图片代表什么（肺炎、肿瘤等），它们就能在其他图片中看到这些模式。 机器学习和人工智能在医学上的整个问题是，数据没有以机器可读的方式进行收集，还有整个隐私问题。 想想一个非自学习的简单心电图机器是如何描述你的心电图的。大多数时候，它们是正确的。它们甚至描述得很准确，以至于医生都依靠机器打印的时间（QRS、QT、PQ）。 想象一下，当你给机器学习大量的心电图时，即使是我们15年前的离线心电图设备大部分时候也能准确地描述心电图。这对于24小时心电图和罕见的心脏疾病尤其有趣。 我不知道为什么没有人尝试这个。可能是因为隐私问题，这是可以理解的，但最终需要改革。",1 3457,dwleppv,"AI doctors. This will not bring down my cost of living, because the cost savings are not going to be passed to me. Case in point, I still pay as much for my Kindle book as I do for a real book in the store, even though the Kindle book cost virtually nothing for Amazon to create and sell, compared to a real book. Amazon is reaping profits from the e-book industry and not passing it along to anyone but Bezos. The reason why Automation and AI is not going to bring down the cost of living is because all the money that is saved in production is going to the 1% of the 1% that own the businesses. The stockholders.","AI doctors. This will not bring down my cost of living, because the cost savings are not going to be passed to me. Case in point, I still pay as much for my Kindle book as I do for a real book in the store, even though the Kindle book cost virtually nothing for Amazon to create and sell, compared to a real book. Amazon is reaping profits from the e-book industry and not passing it along to anyone but Bezos. The reason why Automation and AI is not going to bring down the cost of living is because all the money that is saved in production is going to the 1 of the 1 that own the businesses. The stockholders.","人工智能医生。但这并不会降低我的生活成本，因为成本节约并不会传递给我。 举个例子，我买Kindle书和在商店买实体书一样贵，尽管Kindle书对亚马逊来说几乎没有成本，而实体书则不同。亚马逊从电子书行业赚取利润，却只给贝索斯一个人。 自动化和人工智能不会降低生活成本的原因是，生产中节省下来的钱全都给了那些拥有企业的1%里的1%。股东们。",1 2758,dwv1lfs,"I just recently had an echo stress test and a carotid intima thickness exam with my cardiologist. I’m 35 years old. It came back that I have a heart murmur with my mitral valve and that my carotid artery is thicker than it should be for people my age. My cholesterol levels have always been fine (150ish). I’ve been on TRT 180ml/week with an AI and hcg for probably a year. I live and eat pretty healthy. My doctor said I shouldn’t be concerned, just keep an eye on it. Should I be concerned? Any of you dealt with this? Could the thickening of the artery be do to TRT given normal cholesterol? Anything I could be doing to improve this situation or make sure it doesn’t become a problem? I’ve also had high iron levels for a few blood tests but normal ferritin levels in case that helps. Thanks guys. ","I just recently had an echo stress test and a carotid intima thickness exam with my cardiologist. Im 35 years old. It came back that I have a heart murmur with my mitral valve and that my carotid artery is thicker than it should be for people my age. My cholesterol levels have always been fine (150ish). Ive been on TRT 180mlweek with an AI and hcg for probably a year. I live and eat pretty healthy. My doctor said I shouldnt be concerned, just keep an eye on it. Should I be concerned? Any of you dealt with this? Could the thickening of the artery be do to TRT given normal cholesterol? Anything I could be doing to improve this situation or make sure it doesnt become a problem? Ive also had high iron levels for a few blood tests but normal ferritin levels in case that helps. Thanks guys.",我最近刚做了一次心脏超声应激测试和颈动脉内膜厚度检查，是跟我的心脏病专家做的。我今年35岁。结果显示我有二尖瓣的心脏杂音，以及我的颈动脉比我这个年龄的人应有的厚。我的胆固醇水平一直都很正常（大约150）。我大概已经用着每周180毫升的TRT，还有一个AI和hcg了一年左右。我生活和饮食都挺健康的。我的医生说我不用担心，只要留意就行了。我应该担心吗？有没有人也遇到过这样的情况？我的动脉变厚可能是因为TRT造成的，尽管胆固醇正常？我可以做什么来改善这种情况或者确保它不会成为问题？我几次血液检查都显示铁含量高，但铁蛋白水平正常。谢谢各位。,0 3902,dwvh3f6,"Ti umia neuslo-mainoson haufi mpani sia suflanon asa ti yani soino aisa sufilem! /ti 'u.mia 'neu.slo mai.'no.son 'heu.fi 'mpa.ni sia su.'fla.non 'a.sa ti 'ja.ni 'soi.no 'ai.sa 'su.flem/ *_nom(inan)_* eat root-vegetable(pl) be-permanently recognised by doctor(pl) and *_nom(inan) fut_* more *_poss_*2s healthy! 'The eating (of) root vegetables is recognised by doctors and will more your healthy!' ... Sounds weird in English, but it works in Ryuku.... :)","Ti umia neuslo-mainoson haufi mpani sia suflanon asa ti yani soino aisa sufilem! ti 'u.mia 'neu.slo mai.'no.son 'heu.fi 'mpa.ni sia su.'fla.non 'a.sa ti 'ja.ni 'soi.no 'ai.sa 'su.flem nom(inan) eat root-vegetable(pl) be-permanently recognised by doctor(pl) and nom(inan) fut more poss2s healthy! 'The eating (of) root vegetables is recognised by doctors and will more your healthy!' ... Sounds weird in English, but it works in Ryuku.... :)",“吃根菜被医生们长期认可，而且会让你更健康！” 在琉球语里是这么说的，虽然在英语里听起来有点怪，但在琉球语里很自然。,0 249,dwxmuxq,"Well, I hope it continues to go well for you! Oh that... so have you heard about Facebook's data collection scandal? It's a similar thing with YouTube (Google). Google collects information on your online activities and selects advertisements that it thinks will appeal the most to you. Are you familiar with the term ""data analytics/science."" My dad is working in that field, and I'm working on acquiring a degree for it. Basically, your online activities are being analysed to create a profile on your preferences, habits, etc. The scariest part is that machine learning (true AI that can think independently and learn from it's mistakes like SkyNet) is being developed and integrated into analysing the data that every individual creates every day. However, just like any other tool, it can also be used to make positive impacts. For example, data analytics paired with machine learning is being used by some doctors to provide early predictions on diseases such as cancer. It's also being used to predict environmental concerns. Basically, if something has a history and pattern, we can predict possible outcomes with this new technology.","Well, I hope it continues to go well for you! Oh that... so have you heard about Facebook's data collection scandal? It's a similar thing with YouTube (Google). Google collects information on your online activities and selects advertisements that it thinks will appeal the most to you. Are you familiar with the term ""data analyticsscience."" My dad is working in that field, and I'm working on acquiring a degree for it. Basically, your online activities are being analysed to create a profile on your preferences, habits, etc. The scariest part is that machine learning (true AI that can think independently and learn from it's mistakes like SkyNet) is being developed and integrated into analysing the data that every individual creates every day. However, just like any other tool, it can also be used to make positive impacts. For example, data analytics paired with machine learning is being used by some doctors to provide early predictions on diseases such as cancer. It's also being used to predict environmental concerns. Basically, if something has a history and pattern, we can predict possible outcomes with this new technology.","希望你一切都顺利！哦对了。。。你听说过Facebook的数据收集丑闻吗？YouTube（谷歌）也有类似的事情。谷歌会收集你的在线活动信息，并选择它认为最符合你兴趣的广告。你知道“数据分析/科学”这个词吗？我老爸就在那个领域工作，而我也在攻读相关学位。基本上，你的在线活动被分析用来创建你的偏好、习惯等个人档案。最可怕的是，机器学习（像SkyNet一样可以独立思考并从错误中学习的真正人工智能）正在被开发并整合到分析每个人每天创造的数据中。 然而，就像任何其他工具一样，它也可以用来产生积极影响。例如，一些医生利用数据分析和机器学习提前预测癌症等疾病。它还被用来预测环境问题。基本上，只要有历史和模式，我们就可以用这项新技术预测可能的结果。",1 1162,dx5rmoq,"It's actually an artificial heaven made by the evil AI who felt guilt after accidentally causing a gas genocide, so it wanted to make a place where it would put people in afterlife, because that was the only peaceful memory it could gather, from a doctor calming the tourtured test subjects by saying ""Imagine yourself in a frozen forest"". The Bastogne was there because it found a mental image of a 'frozen forest' inside one of your teammates' brain who was obsessed with the battle of Bastogne, so basically the AI wanted to use her thoughts to make the heaven, only to find out there was a war going on in the forest. It's a very good and complex story on its own. It's just that it's literally impossible to comprehend what's going on during gameplay because of the terrible narrative design. Also the constant use of edgy abstract imagery and things like zombies appearing randomly made it feel so try hard and annoying. Real mess of a game.","It's actually an artificial heaven made by the evil AI who felt guilt after accidentally causing a gas genocide, so it wanted to make a place where it would put people in afterlife, because that was the only peaceful memory it could gather, from a doctor calming the tourtured test subjects by saying ""Imagine yourself in a frozen forest"". The Bastogne was there because it found a mental image of a 'frozen forest' inside one of your teammates' brain who was obsessed with the battle of Bastogne, so basically the AI wanted to use her thoughts to make the heaven, only to find out there was a war going on in the forest. It's a very good and complex story on its own. It's just that it's literally impossible to comprehend what's going on during gameplay because of the terrible narrative design. Also the constant use of edgy abstract imagery and things like zombies appearing randomly made it feel so try hard and annoying. Real mess of a game.","这实际上是个由邪恶的人工智能创造的人造天堂，它因为意外引发了一场毒气种族灭绝感到内疚，所以它想创造一个地方，把人们放在死后，因为那是它能够收集到的唯一平静的记忆，来自一个医生安抚受折磨的试验对象的话：“想象自己在冻结的森林里”。巴斯通是因为它在你的队友脑海中找到了一个“冻结的森林”的精神形象，她着迷于巴斯通战役，所以基本上人工智能想利用她的想法来建造天堂，只是后来发现那个森林中正在进行战争。 这本身是一个很棒而且复杂的故事。只是，在游戏过程中，由于可怕的叙事设计，几乎不可能理解发生了什么。而且不断出现的冷酷抽象意象和突如其来的僵尸让它看起来太作，太烦人了。真是一团糟的游戏。",0 2270,dx9tt3t,"This shit I hate. Churchy “Amazing! God saved you!” Me “No I watched the doctor save me. What are you talking about?” Churchy “Yea but god guided his hands” *goes to the doctor “were you controlling your own hands?” Doctor “yes, I was” Churchy “ok but god controlled I’m and he didn’t know” Me “what about free will” This whole “god saved you” thing makes it out like every doctor is just AI leading a fake life led by god so he can save you Sorry about the long post","This shit I hate. Churchy Amazing! God saved you! Me No I watched the doctor save me. What are you talking about? Churchy Yea but god guided his hands goes to the doctor were you controlling your own hands? Doctor yes, I was Churchy ok but god controlled Im and he didnt know Me what about free will This whole god saved you thing makes it out like every doctor is just AI leading a fake life led by god so he can save you Sorry about the long post","这种我讨厌。教徒们总说“太神奇了！上帝救了你！” 我说：“不是，是医生救了我。你在说啥呢？” 教徒：“对，不过是上帝引导了他的手” *去问医生：“你是自己控制你的手吗？” 医生：“是的，是我自己控制的” 教徒：“好吧，但是上帝控制了你，你自己并不知道” 我说：“那自由意志呢” 总是说“上帝救了你”，弄得好像每个医生都是上帝操控的机器人，过着虚假的生活，只是为了上帝救你。抱歉发了个长帖！",0 4965,dxbwibl,"I think the answer depends on at what stage the ""colonizing mars"" endeavor is at. The need for a dedicated medical doctor will increase as the number of personnel on the ships (or at mars) increase. If the first few ships are 10 astronauts each, then maybe the current approach of astronauts learning as much as they can about medical procedures, conferences with doctors on earth, and AI will suffice. But as the passenger numbers grow, or as the population grows on mars, then it only makes sense to include dedicated doctors. They would not have to spend their time reading texts, as mentioned in another post. They could investigate how the local conditions were affecting human health, or affecting cell cultures, etc. English naval ships always had a ship's doctor (mind you, they were often engaged in warfare). Regarding your particular question and interest, a broad medical degree with also some training in scientific biological procedures, would probably make an excellent resume. Oh yeah, and also the mars ships' doctors should always be referred to as ""bones"".","I think the answer depends on at what stage the ""colonizing mars"" endeavor is at. The need for a dedicated medical doctor will increase as the number of personnel on the ships (or at mars) increase. If the first few ships are 10 astronauts each, then maybe the current approach of astronauts learning as much as they can about medical procedures, conferences with doctors on earth, and AI will suffice. But as the passenger numbers grow, or as the population grows on mars, then it only makes sense to include dedicated doctors. They would not have to spend their time reading texts, as mentioned in another post. They could investigate how the local conditions were affecting human health, or affecting cell cultures, etc. English naval ships always had a ship's doctor (mind you, they were often engaged in warfare). Regarding your particular question and interest, a broad medical degree with also some training in scientific biological procedures, would probably make an excellent resume. Oh yeah, and also the mars ships' doctors should always be referred to as ""bones"".",我认为答案取决于“殖民火星”工作所处的阶段。随着飞船上的人员数量增加（或者在火星上增加），对专职医生的需求将增加。如果前几艘飞船上每艘有10名宇航员，那么也许目前的做法是宇航员尽量学习医疗程序，与地球上的医生进行会诊，并依赖人工智能，就可以满足需求。但随着乘客数量增加，或者火星上的人口增加，那么增加专职医生只是合乎逻辑的选择。他们将不必花时间阅读文本，正如另一篇帖子中提到的那样。他们可以调查当地条件如何影响人类健康，或者影响细胞培养等。英国海军舰船上总会有船医（请注意，他们经常参与战争）。关于你的特定问题和兴趣，获得广泛的医学学位，再加上一些科学生物程序的培训，可能会使你的简历更加出色。哦对了，火星飞船上的医生应该永远被称为“骨头医生”。,0 2566,dxkgqx5,"Okay, I don't know much about medical AI research so take all this with a grain of salt. But what I mean is that you can replace a doctor with a nurse by getting a nurse to measure the patient's vitals and other stats, and then feed that data into an ML model. Soon, we will also have [medical devices that can be swallowed](https://www.cnbc.com/2017/11/14/what-is-a-digital-pill.html) or be permanently embedded in patients, which allows for much more detailed measurements and a lot more data. Doctors won't have the capacity to look through all that data but an ML model will.","Okay, I don't know much about medical AI research so take all this with a grain of salt. But what I mean is that you can replace a doctor with a nurse by getting a nurse to measure the patient's vitals and other stats, and then feed that data into an ML model. Soon, we will also have medical devices that can be swallowed(https:www.cnbc.com20171114what-is-a-digital-pill.html) or be permanently embedded in patients, which allows for much more detailed measurements and a lot more data. Doctors won't have the capacity to look through all that data but an ML model will.",嗯，我对医疗人工智能研究不是很了解，所以这些话你不用太当真。但我的意思是，你可以用护士代替医生，让护士测量病人的生命体征和其他数据，然后把这些数据输入到一个机器学习模型中。很快，我们也会有可以吞下的医疗设备或者永久植入病人体内的设备，这样就可以进行更详细的测量和收集更多的数据。医生没办法处理那么多数据，但机器学习模型可以。,1 4261,dxmitqp,">and being a healthcare provider. You are in for a shock. There have already been studies demonstrating how AI is better than pathologists/dermatologists in correctly identifying cancerous cells/lesions when looking at microscopy slides/pictures. Not a hard jump to radiology. Then non-surgical fields, with physician extenders being first on the block. Thankfully will be retired by then.","gt;and being a healthcare provider. You are in for a shock. There have already been studies demonstrating how AI is better than pathologistsdermatologists in correctly identifying cancerous cellslesions when looking at microscopy slidespictures. Not a hard jump to radiology. Then non-surgical fields, with physician extenders being first on the block. Thankfully will be retired by then.",你说的这个语境是，关于AI在医疗诊断领域的应用。有研究显示，AI在观察显微镜切片或图片时，辨别癌细胞/病变的准确性已经超过了病理学家/皮肤科医生。这一技术很快可能会运用到放射科，然后是非手术领域，首先会受到影响的是医师的辅助者。好在那时候我已经退休了。,1 1128,dxn93qp,"Page Text is reproduced below: ***** Finally, the long-gestating character-specific “Big Quests” are finally in the game!... in Beta form! For a full set of details on the current state of Big Quests, check out this week’s Fortnight Discussion, in which I humbly ask for your suggestions on this fledgling aspect of the game. For the next batch of bi-weekly updates, I’ll be splitting my time between the usual content/bug fixes/etc. and behind-the-scenes stuff like optimization, work on console versions, engine improvements, and other things that I’d frankly rather not be doing if I had the choice :D While this may result in a lower volume of obvious output in these updates, I’ll be making an effort to stick some meaningful additions into to each one. Alpha 48 Big Quests Set up a whole bunch of infrastructure on which Big Quests will hang Added Big Quests for: Gangster Zombie Cop Doctor Investment Banker Shapeshifter Hacker Werewolf UI/Controls Fix for mission status not changing in real time if the missions screen is left up in multiplayer mode Disasters Fixed some code relating to Disasters in Sandbox Mode, though I’m not sure exactly what impact this was having Artificial Intelligence Fix for NPCs that that were meant to be Neutralized for missions becoming Hostile toward each other too easily Cop Bots come after the player when they are being hacked Fix for NPCs sometimes not patrolling properly in multiplayer mode Text Altered ShapeShifter back story a bit Multiplayer Fix for Game Over screen sometimes appearing if the player teleported twice in rapid succession toward the start of a level Other Bunch of boring behind-the-scenes stuff that you won't notice or care about ***** Bot created to announce Steam News automatically, powered by [SteamKiwi.com](http://steamkiwi.com). If you are a moderator and wish to request this bot to post news to your subreddit, or stop posting to your subreddit please PM /u/etaew.","Page Text is reproduced below: Finally, the long-gestating character-specific Big Quests are finally in the game!... in Beta form! For a full set of details on the current state of Big Quests, check out this weeks Fortnight Discussion, in which I humbly ask for your suggestions on this fledgling aspect of the game.x000Dx000DFor the next batch of bi-weekly updates, Ill be splitting my time between the usual contentbug fixesetc. and behind-the-scenes stuff like optimization, work on console versions, engine improvements, and other things that Id frankly rather not be doing if I had the choice :D While this may result in a lower volume of obvious output in these updates, Ill be making an effort to stick some meaningful additions into to each one.x000Dx000DAlpha 48 x000DBig Questsx000Dx000DSet up a whole bunch of infrastructure on which Big Quests will hangx000DAdded Big Quests for:x000Dx000DGangsterx000DZombiex000DCopx000DDoctorx000DInvestment Bankerx000DShapeshifterx000DHackerx000DWerewolfx000Dx000Dx000Dx000DUIControlsx000Dx000DFix for mission status not changing in real time if the missions screen is left up in multiplayer modex000Dx000Dx000DDisastersx000Dx000DFixed some code relating to Disasters in Sandbox Mode, though Im not sure exactly what impact this was havingx000Dx000Dx000DArtificial Intelligencex000Dx000DFix for NPCs that that were meant to be Neutralized for missions becoming Hostile toward each other too easilyx000DCop Bots come after the player when they are being hackedx000DFix for NPCs sometimes not patrolling properly in multiplayer modex000Dx000Dx000DTextx000Dx000DAltered ShapeShifter back story a bitx000Dx000Dx000DMultiplayerx000Dx000DFix for Game Over screen sometimes appearing if the player teleported twice in rapid succession toward the start of a levelx000Dx000Dx000DOtherx000Dx000DBunch of boring behind-the-scenes stuff that you won't notice or care aboutx000D Bot created to announce Steam News automatically, powered by SteamKiwi.com(http:steamkiwi.com). If you are a moderator and wish to request this bot to post news to your subreddit, or stop posting to your subreddit please PM uetaew.","文本： 以下是页面文本： ***** 最终，长期孕育的特定角色“大型任务”终于出现在游戏中！...以测试版形式！关于当前大型任务的详细内容，请查看本周的《双周讨论》，在其中我谦卑地请求您对游戏这一新生事物提出建议。 在接下来的每两周更新中，我会把时间分配在通常的内容/bug修复等方面，以及一些幕后工作，如优化、主机版本的工作、引擎改进等等，这些事情如果可以选择的话，我宁愿不做:D 虽然这可能会导致这些更新中明显输出的数量较少，我会努力在其中加入一些有意义的内容。 Alpha 48 大型任务 建立了一整套基础设施，用于支持大型任务 为以下角色添加了大型任务: 黑帮分子 僵尸 警察 医生 投资银行家 变形者 黑客 狼人 用户界面/控制 修复了多人模式中任务状态在实时中未更改的问题 灾害 修复了与沙盒模式中灾害相关的一些代码，尽管我不确定这会有什么影响 人工智能 修复了一些NPC的问题，本来应该为任务中立化的NPC变得过于容易彼此敌对 警察机器人在被黑客攻击时会追踪玩家 修复了多人模式中NPC有时未能正确巡逻的问题 文本 稍微改变了变形者的背景故事 多人模式 修复了在玩家快速连续传送两次时，游戏结束画面有时会出现在关卡开始时的问题 其他 一大堆无聊的幕后工作，你可能都不会注意或在意的 ***** 由[SteamKiwi.com](http://steamkiwi.com)提供动力的机器人自动发布Steam新闻。如果您是版主，并希望请求此机器人向您的子论坛发布新闻，或者停止向您的子论坛发布，请私信/u/etaew。",0 330,dxofudh,"I can't say I agree. Already at my job (I'd rather not say) we've had to cut down about 50% of our staff in the past 10 years due to people being made redundant by technology. To be fair that is anecdotal so I'll use my previous example. The point I was making wasn't that doctors would be replaced, because yes, someone does need to interact with patients, and yes someone needs to make sure samples are collected etc. But this isn't 100% of a hospital's staff, I was referring to all the lab workers that absolutely would lose their jobs if a doctor could just consult an AI. All the time spent looking at microscope slides, generating hourly income for that worker will now be gone. Nothing is there to replace it. This is a tiny corner case, but there's so many jobs I could list that are not examples of ""better tools"" but rather job replacement - truckers, manufacturing workers, UPS carriers etc. I could go on, but I think these job losses alone would cause a huuuge upset to society. And these are areas where the technology is BASICALLY already there. Good discussion by the way, thank you :) ","I can't say I agree. Already at my job (I'd rather not say) we've had to cut down about 50 of our staff in the past 10 years due to people being made redundant by technology. To be fair that is anecdotal so I'll use my previous example. The point I was making wasn't that doctors would be replaced, because yes, someone does need to interact with patients, and yes someone needs to make sure samples are collected etc. But this isn't 100 of a hospital's staff, I was referring to all the lab workers that absolutely would lose their jobs if a doctor could just consult an AI. All the time spent looking at microscope slides, generating hourly income for that worker will now be gone. Nothing is there to replace it. This is a tiny corner case, but there's so many jobs I could list that are not examples of ""better tools"" but rather job replacement - truckers, manufacturing workers, UPS carriers etc. I could go on, but I think these job losses alone would cause a huuuge upset to society. And these are areas where the technology is BASICALLY already there. Good discussion by the way, thank you :)","我不能说我同意。在我工作的地方（我宁愿不说）过去10年我们不得不裁员大约50%，因为技术造成的人员被裁减。公平来说，这只是一个个例，那我用之前的例子。我的观点并不是医生将被取代，因为是的，有人需要与患者互动，有人需要确保样本被收集等等。但这并不是医院全部员工的一百分比，我指的是所有的实验室工作人员，他们绝对会失去工作，如果医生可以直接与人工智能咨询。花在观察显微镜幻灯片上的时间，为工人每小时创造的收入将会消失。没有什么可以取代它。这只是一个小的特例，但是还有很多我可以列举的工作，不是“更好的工具”的例子，而是工作被替换 - 卡车司机，制造业工人，UPS搬运工等。我可以继续，但我认为这些工作的丢失本身就会对社会造成巨大的冲击。而且这些领域的技术基本上已经存在。 顺便说一下，这是一个很好的讨论，谢谢 :)",1 4788,dxp5iy5,"1: Lower T dose as you are high and above normal, which is also causing everything else to go abnormal too (E2, FT, bloating, joint problems, probably high blood pressure). Since you are responding so well, why don't you just lower your T does (half), stop the (expensive) HCG and the AI (probably unnecessary once you lower T dose). See where that gets you. OR 2: Increase AI, you are now juicing and you will have to get your own meds because your doctor will not approve it with these labs showing you need to reduce T dose to stay in normal range. Doctors treat conditions to normal levels because they rely on studies that show that restoring normal levels are beneficial and not high risk. Juicing above normal levels is not studied and the doctor can easily be sued for malpractice for giving a prescription that maintains abnormal levels. If you do 2 and start juicing on your own you should also check out r/steroids","1: Lower T dose as you are high and above normal, which is also causing everything else to go abnormal too (E2, FT, bloating, joint problems, probably high blood pressure). Since you are responding so well, why don't you just lower your T does (half), stop the (expensive) HCG and the AI (probably unnecessary once you lower T dose). See where that gets you. OR 2: Increase AI, you are now juicing and you will have to get your own meds because your doctor will not approve it with these labs showing you need to reduce T dose to stay in normal range. Doctors treat conditions to normal levels because they rely on studies that show that restoring normal levels are beneficial and not high risk. Juicing above normal levels is not studied and the doctor can easily be sued for malpractice for giving a prescription that maintains abnormal levels. If you do 2 and start juicing on your own you should also check out rsteroids","翻译: 1: 你的T剂量太高了，已经超过正常水平，也导致其他指标异常（雌二醇，游离睾酮，肿胀，关节问题，可能高血压）。你的反应这么好，为什么不减少T剂量（减半），停止（昂贵的）HCG和AI（可能在降低T剂量后不再需要）。试试看效果如何。 或者 2: 增加AI，你现在已经在使用兴奋剂，你需要自行购买药物，因为你的医生不会批准这些检查结果显示你需要减少T剂量以保持正常范围。医生治疗疾病会按照正常水平进行，因为他们依赖研究显示恢复正常水平是有益的而且风险不高。超出正常水平使用兴奋剂并没有研究，并且医生很容易因为开出维持异常水平的处方而被控医疗过失。如果你选择了2并且自行使用兴奋剂，你也应该去看看r/steroids。",0 2929,dxqr0mb,"I guess it depends what kind of computer systems the company has to support you, but its certain the industry is there. When things get complex, you definitely do need someone with a good background to be able to prepare a more custom plan that the computer can't always do for you (for now at least). Calculator avoid us from having to do manual math. Google avoids us from having to go to the library. Insurance company databases avoid you having to deal directly with an actuary for every risk related question. What AI is doing is just the continuation of this paragraph's progression. Asking questions and calling the shots on ""what to do"" remains the main input/output that humans need to do with AI (just like the other systems I just mentioned). People think AI may replace many professions, but this is false - when you're not an expert, you don't even know what questions to ask, and even less what to make of the answers. How many physicians do you hear complain about the fact that people go on google and self-diagnose themselves with random diseases? Answer: most of them! That's what happens when you take out the expert of the equation. The same thing happens when people think their own non-expert judgement can be compensated by self help tools (like books or Google). I know many physicians with a HORRIBLE financial setup because they self-advised instead of dealing with a company that evaluates their situation properly and coordinates appropriate specialists when required (attorneys, accountants, tax specialists, actuaries, etc.).","I guess it depends what kind of computer systems the company has to support you, but its certain the industry is there. When things get complex, you definitely do need someone with a good background to be able to prepare a more custom plan that the computer can't always do for you (for now at least). Calculator avoid us from having to do manual math. Google avoids us from having to go to the library. Insurance company databases avoid you having to deal directly with an actuary for every risk related question. What AI is doing is just the continuation of this paragraph's progression. Asking questions and calling the shots on ""what to do"" remains the main inputoutput that humans need to do with AI (just like the other systems I just mentioned). People think AI may replace many professions, but this is false - when you're not an expert, you don't even know what questions to ask, and even less what to make of the answers. How many physicians do you hear complain about the fact that people go on google and self-diagnose themselves with random diseases? Answer: most of them! That's what happens when you take out the expert of the equation. The same thing happens when people think their own non-expert judgement can be compensated by self help tools (like books or Google). I know many physicians with a HORRIBLE financial setup because they self-advised instead of dealing with a company that evaluates their situation properly and coordinates appropriate specialists when required (attorneys, accountants, tax specialists, actuaries, etc.).","我猜这取决于公司的电脑系统是什么，但毫无疑问这个行业在那儿。当情况变得复杂时，你就需要一个背景良好的人来为你准备更加定制的计划，电脑目前还不能完全替代他的角色。 计算器避免了我们不得不进行手动计算。谷歌避免了我们不得不去图书馆。保险公司的数据库避免了你不得不直接与保险精算师就每个风险相关问题进行交涉。人工智能正在继续这一进展。提问和指挥""该做什么""仍然是人类与人工智能需要进行的主要输入/输出（就像我刚提到的其他系统一样）。 人们认为人工智能可能会取代许多职业，但这是错误的 - 当你不是专家时，你甚至不知道问什么问题，更不用说如何理解答案了。 你有听说过多少医生抱怨人们上网自诊并自认为得了各种疾病吗？答案：大多数！当你把专家排除在外时，就会出现这种情况。 当人们认为自己的非专业判断可以通过自助工具弥补时（比如书籍或谷歌），就会出现同样的情况。我认识很多医生的财务状况非常糟糕，因为他们是自己给自己建议，而不是找一个能够正确评估他们情况并在必要时协调合适专家（律师、会计、税务专家、精算师等）的公司处理。",1 79,dxselpq,"Check out the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Call of Chernobyl Mod. You only have to own S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Call of Pripyat (less than $10 on g2a, the original devs are disbanded anyway so don't feel bad) and install the mod from ModDB. The mod (plus the addon Doctor X's Dynamic Faction Relations for what you're looking for) combines the maps of all three games and turns it into an almost roguelike open-world sandbox experience where you play as a member of any faction you want in a cordoned-off, radioactive exclusion zone around Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant. It's a very raw, tactical 1st person shooter with survivalist elements. Firefights can be pinned down across bleak, open terrain with a very suspenseful atmosphere in the way that the AI use suppressive fire from ambiguous cover. This mod makes this even more visceral when, due to A-Life (the AI system the game engine uses where all NPCs are active at all times, regardless of where the player is) faction loyalties shift and suddenly it's unclear who is fighting who. A bandit camp raid by your faction members on the other side of the map could go awry and result in your Freedom faction allies turning on you over a radio report about it. I highly recommend the experience.","Check out the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Call of Chernobyl Mod. You only have to own S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Call of Pripyat (less than 10 on g2a, the original devs are disbanded anyway so don't feel bad) and install the mod from ModDB. The mod (plus the addon Doctor X's Dynamic Faction Relations for what you're looking for) combines the maps of all three games and turns it into an almost roguelike open-world sandbox experience where you play as a member of any faction you want in a cordoned-off, radioactive exclusion zone around Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant. It's a very raw, tactical 1st person shooter with survivalist elements. Firefights can be pinned down across bleak, open terrain with a very suspenseful atmosphere in the way that the AI use suppressive fire from ambiguous cover. This mod makes this even more visceral when, due to A-Life (the AI system the game engine uses where all NPCs are active at all times, regardless of where the player is) faction loyalties shift and suddenly it's unclear who is fighting who. A bandit camp raid by your faction members on the other side of the map could go awry and result in your Freedom faction allies turning on you over a radio report about it. I highly recommend the experience.",你可以试试 S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Call of Chernobyl Mod。你只需要拥有S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Call of Pripyat（在g2a上不到10美元，反正原开发者已经解散了，不用感到内疚），然后从ModDB上安装这个mod。这个mod（还有你要找的Doctor X's Dynamic Faction Relations附加包）把三款游戏的地图结合在一起，变成了一个几乎像是一款开放世界沙盒游戏的roguelike体验，在这个游戏中你可以选择成为你想要的任何派别的成员，在切尔诺贝利核电站周围一个被隔离的、受辐射影响的地带里进行游戏。这是一款非常原始、战术性很强的第一人称射击游戏，还有生存元素。在一片荒凉、开阔的地形上进行的火战非常悬疑，因为游戏中的AI会利用模糊的掩护进行压制性的火力，营造出一种非常紧张的氛围。由于A-Life（游戏引擎使用的AI系统，所有NPC都在任何时候都活跃，不论玩家在哪里），在这个mod中派别的忠诚度会转变，突然间就不清楚谁在和谁打了。你的派别成员可能在地图的另一边袭击盗贼营地时出问题，因而根据收到的无线电报告而转头攻击你。我强烈推荐这种体验。,0 2680,dxtz4rg,"Man i hate it when that happens too. The malus does not seem too bad at first, but there are some rather nasty events for homosexual degenerate rulers that can pretty much kill your realm. Somewhere down the line, it can potentially be worse than with a imbecile character and it is rare to heal it, even with the satanist cult. You should do multiple things to get rid of him quickly. Letting him get depressed to suicide by picking rulership was already mentioned, but it is not a sure thing because sometimes it can take decades to get this trait, so it should be your last resort if you already have done the other things i will mention. Small thing that can add up, get stressed by educating someone and pick the right choice for it. It might not seem like much, but sometimes characters just drop dead to stress even in their 20s. After you got stressed, educate anyone who has no land in your realm and will not get land in your realm to be ambitious to get yourself some rivals. Invite some high intrigue characters into your court, whoever comes, then piss them off so they join plots to kill you (with the ai there should always be a plot to kill a homosexual). Bonus points for making your wife hate you and choosing someone who is amoral and hates you to be your spymaster. Name the dumbest(low learning, imbecile), cruelest (cruel or any other traits like it, impaler works nice too) and generally shittiest cunt who also hates your guts as your Court Physician so any minor disease could end up killing you. Perhaps one of the new rivals you gained fits the description. Get yourself some scurvy by letting your character sail around on the open sea, then have your quality physician take some drastic measures to cure it, you should always trust your physician after all. If you fight any wars, let your king be on the front lines (in a flank if he is shit at war) so he might get killed, maimed, or at least wounded. If he gets wounded, let him run around and continue fighting with him so he gets an infection, bonus points if he is depressed and already has scurvy at that point. While doing all that, consider picking war focus and duel some of your rivals. If you do it right, you have a nice number of rivals in a few years and if they somehow have not assassinated you, and you do not have succumbed to stress, battle or scurvy, duel the ones who hate you the most because they rarely show mercy if they win. Also make sure your heir does not have the same shitty trait, or you end up doing it all over again.","Man i hate it when that happens too. The malus does not seem too bad at first, but there are some rather nasty events for homosexual degenerate rulers that can pretty much kill your realm. Somewhere down the line, it can potentially be worse than with a imbecile character and it is rare to heal it, even with the satanist cult. You should do multiple things to get rid of him quickly. Letting him get depressed to suicide by picking rulership was already mentioned, but it is not a sure thing because sometimes it can take decades to get this trait, so it should be your last resort if you already have done the other things i will mention. Small thing that can add up, get stressed by educating someone and pick the right choice for it. It might not seem like much, but sometimes characters just drop dead to stress even in their 20s. After you got stressed, educate anyone who has no land in your realm and will not get land in your realm to be ambitious to get yourself some rivals. Invite some high intrigue characters into your court, whoever comes, then piss them off so they join plots to kill you (with the ai there should always be a plot to kill a homosexual). Bonus points for making your wife hate you and choosing someone who is amoral and hates you to be your spymaster. Name the dumbest(low learning, imbecile), cruelest (cruel or any other traits like it, impaler works nice too) and generally shittiest cunt who also hates your guts as your Court Physician so any minor disease could end up killing you. Perhaps one of the new rivals you gained fits the description. Get yourself some scurvy by letting your character sail around on the open sea, then have your quality physician take some drastic measures to cure it, you should always trust your physician after all. If you fight any wars, let your king be on the front lines (in a flank if he is shit at war) so he might get killed, maimed, or at least wounded. If he gets wounded, let him run around and continue fighting with him so he gets an infection, bonus points if he is depressed and already has scurvy at that point. While doing all that, consider picking war focus and duel some of your rivals. If you do it right, you have a nice number of rivals in a few years and if they somehow have not assassinated you, and you do not have succumbed to stress, battle or scurvy, duel the ones who hate you the most because they rarely show mercy if they win. Also make sure your heir does not have the same shitty trait, or you end up doing it all over again.","哥们儿，我也讨厌这种情况。这种惩罚刚开始时似乎不太严重，但对同性恋堕落统治者来说，可能会发生一些相当可怕的事件，几乎会毁了你的王国。在某种程度上，它甚至可能比智障角色更糟，而且很少有机会治愈，即使在撒旦教徒的帮助下。 你应该做很多事情来尽快摆脱他。 让他因执政感到沮丧而自杀的建议已经提到，但这并不一定，因为有时候可能需要数十年才能获得这种特质，所以如果你已经做了我将提到的其他事情，那么这应该是你的最后手段。 有一个小技巧，通过教育某人使自己感到紧张，并做出正确的选择。这可能看起来没什么，但有时候角色甚至在20多岁时因为紧张而突然死去。在你变得紧张之后，教育在你领地内没有土地或将不会在你领地内获得土地的任何人，让他们雄心勃勃，这样你就会得到一些对手。 邀请一些阴谋丛生的角色到你的朝廷，无论谁来，然后惹恼他们，让他们参与阴谋来杀你（对于ai来说，总会有一个谋杀同性恋的阴谋）。如果你的妻子恨你并选择一个道德败坏又讨厌你的人做你的间谍大师，那就更好了。 任命一个最蠢（学识低，智障）、最残忍（残酷或其他类似特质，比如关键X也不错）和一般最糟糕的混蛋，他还恨你，做你的朝廷医生，这样任何轻微的疾病都可能致命。也许你获得的新对手符合这个描述。 让你的角色在公海上航行，让他得坏血病，然后让你质量优秀的医生采取一些极端措施来治愈他，毕竟你应该总是相信你的医生。 如果你打仗，让你的国王在最前线（如果他在战争中不行的话，让他在一侧），这样他可能会被杀死、废掉，或者至少受伤。如果他受伤了，让他四处跑动并继续战斗，这样他就会感染，如果此时他已经沮丧并且已经得了坏血病，那就得分翻倍。 在做所有这些的同时，考虑选择战争焦点，并与一些对手决斗。如果你做得对，几年后你就会有一些对手，如果他们不知何故没有暗杀你，而你也没有被压垮到紧张、战斗或坏血病，那么和那些最讨厌你的人决斗，因为他们通常赢了后很少会仁慈。 还要确保你的继承人没有相同的糟糕特质，否则你最终还得再做一遍。",0 1030,dxw1si6,"> you can have guys making a change to assets that for example would screw up the animators because now there are major clipping issues This is where communication is important, if they don't communicate they aren't going to succeed. > You'll find this is a pretty big ""if"" in most workplaces. When working on a project that takes years to complete, there cannot be an ""if"" about communication. Either they communicate and succeed or they do not communicate and they fail. > I work in healthcare and we have different channels for different vendors, these are the ""smaller teams you mentioned"", each channel is 3-4 people but when we have a huge open enrollment (like 2018) it's all hands on deck and every channel goes to help the one with the most volume, we even have part timers from other departments that are ""well enough"" trained to take some of the busywork off our hands and let us do the actual data analysis. Unless you work on projects that take years to complete, you cannot relate your work to the work of a game developer. > I won't claim to know how BSG's structure works but not being able to shift assets around to handle workload is a major roadblock. If you look at the structure of the team that created Skyrim, you will see what a good team looks like. They have team leads for each department and general teams for each department. To go more in depth, they have teams of 4-9, one team does gameplay programming, another does graphics programming, another does world art, another does animation, etc (I think you get the point) and they have team leads where one is the lead ai programmer, one is the lead graphics programmer, one is the lead animator, etc (do I really need to go on). Basically, to create a good product, you need a good team. In healthcare, I can understand how a cross trained team is a better team because many situations may arise where the specifically trained individuals are not available (there are often more patients than doctors). Making a product that takes years is completely different than healthcare and requires a completely different structure. If they start mixing departments, they will start to see redundancy and issues arise due to too many people working on the same thing. Skyrim had 109 people working on the development of the game and not a single team was over 10 people and only 4 teams were over 5 people.","gt; you can have guys making a change to assets that for example would screw up the animators because now there are major clipping issues This is where communication is important, if they don't communicate they aren't going to succeed. gt; You'll find this is a pretty big ""if"" in most workplaces. When working on a project that takes years to complete, there cannot be an ""if"" about communication. Either they communicate and succeed or they do not communicate and they fail. gt; I work in healthcare and we have different channels for different vendors, these are the ""smaller teams you mentioned"", each channel is 3-4 people but when we have a huge open enrollment (like 2018) it's all hands on deck and every channel goes to help the one with the most volume, we even have part timers from other departments that are ""well enough"" trained to take some of the busywork off our hands and let us do the actual data analysis. Unless you work on projects that take years to complete, you cannot relate your work to the work of a game developer. gt; I won't claim to know how BSG's structure works but not being able to shift assets around to handle workload is a major roadblock. If you look at the structure of the team that created Skyrim, you will see what a good team looks like. They have team leads for each department and general teams for each department. To go more in depth, they have teams of 4-9, one team does gameplay programming, another does graphics programming, another does world art, another does animation, etc (I think you get the point) and they have team leads where one is the lead ai programmer, one is the lead graphics programmer, one is the lead animator, etc (do I really need to go on). Basically, to create a good product, you need a good team. In healthcare, I can understand how a cross trained team is a better team because many situations may arise where the specifically trained individuals are not available (there are often more patients than doctors). Making a product that takes years is completely different than healthcare and requires a completely different structure. If they start mixing departments, they will start to see redundancy and issues arise due to too many people working on the same thing. Skyrim had 109 people working on the development of the game and not a single team was over 10 people and only 4 teams were over 5 people.","- 你可以让一些人改变资产，比如说可能会让动画师们犯难，因为会出现很严重的穿插问题。 这就是为什么沟通很重要，如果他们不沟通，就不会成功。 - 在大多数工作场所，这都是一个很大的假设。 在完成需要数年时间的项目的时候，沟通不能有任何假设。要么他们沟通并取得成功，要么他们不沟通就失败了。 - 我在医疗保健领域工作，我们针对不同的供应商有不同的渠道，这些就是你提到的“小团队”，每个渠道有3-4个人，但是当我们进行大规模的公开招聘（比如2018年）时，所有人都会全力以赴，所有渠道都会去帮助那些工作量最大的渠道，我们甚至会从其他部门招募兼职人员来帮我们减轻一些繁琐的工作，让我们可以进行实际的数据分析。 除非你在完成需要数年的项目，否则你不能将你的工作与游戏开发者的工作相提并论。 - 我不会声称自己知道BSG的结构是怎么样的，但是不能调动资产处理工作量是一个很大的障碍。 如果你看看创造《上古卷轴》的团队结构，你就会知道一个好的团队是什么样子的。他们每个部门都有团队负责人和一般团队。更深入地说，他们有4-9人的团队，一个团队负责游戏编程，另一个负责图形编程，再一个负责世界美术，还有一个负责动画，等等（我想你明白了）。他们还有团队负责人，其中一个是主要AI程序员，一个是主要图形程序员，一个是主要动画师，等等（我真的还需要继续吗）。基本上，要创建一个好的产品，你需要一个好的团队。在医疗保健领域，我能理解为什么交叉培训的团队是一个更好的团队，因为很多情况下特别训练的人员可能不可用（通常患者比医生还多）。制作需要数年时间的产品和医疗保健完全不同，需要完全不同的组织结构。如果他们开始混合各个部门，他们将开始看到冗余和问题，因为太多人在做同样的事情。《上古卷轴》的开发团队有109人，没有一个团队超过10人，只有4个团队超过5人。",0 3875,dxwj726,"Pretend that Athene is the most cognitively intelligent person in the world. I know it's a bit ridiculous, but he has said he is on stream many times and *he* believes it. Now put yourself in the mind of the most cognitively intelligent person in the world. That person will think about how to make an impact. Once they come up with a way to make an impact, that solution will be the greatest solution in the world because it was logically and objectively derived by the most cognitively intelligent person in the world. So now that you're the most cognitively intelligent person in the world with the greatest solution in the world to making impact, it is literally impossible for anyone to have a greater solution. Anyone else coming up with another solution is wasting their time. Anyone else working under another person's solution is wasting their time. The only logical way to proceed is to join his compound and work under his guidance. So the AI researcher working on their degree? Waste of time. They're not at the compound under Athene's guidance. The doctor in Africa delivering vaccines? Waste of time, they could be at the compound having a greater impact. Both are having an impact, but neither are having the greatest impact because neither are at Athene's compound. It's all logically consistent if you are willing to accept the ridiculous premise that Athene is the most cognitively intelligent person in the world.","Pretend that Athene is the most cognitively intelligent person in the world. I know it's a bit ridiculous, but he has said he is on stream many times and he believes it. Now put yourself in the mind of the most cognitively intelligent person in the world. That person will think about how to make an impact. Once they come up with a way to make an impact, that solution will be the greatest solution in the world because it was logically and objectively derived by the most cognitively intelligent person in the world. So now that you're the most cognitively intelligent person in the world with the greatest solution in the world to making impact, it is literally impossible for anyone to have a greater solution. Anyone else coming up with another solution is wasting their time. Anyone else working under another person's solution is wasting their time. The only logical way to proceed is to join his compound and work under his guidance. So the AI researcher working on their degree? Waste of time. They're not at the compound under Athene's guidance. The doctor in Africa delivering vaccines? Waste of time, they could be at the compound having a greater impact. Both are having an impact, but neither are having the greatest impact because neither are at Athene's compound. It's all logically consistent if you are willing to accept the ridiculous premise that Athene is the most cognitively intelligent person in the world.","假设 Athene 是世界上最聪明的人。我知道这有点荒谬，但是他在直播中说过很多次，*他*自己也相信。 现在想象一下自己是世界上最聪明的人。这个人会考虑如何产生影响。一旦他们想出了一种产生影响的方法，那个解决方案将成为世界上最伟大的解决方案，因为它是由世界上最聪明的人逻辑地和客观地得出的。 所以现在你是世界上最聪明的人，有着世界上产生影响最伟大的解决方案，任何人都不可能有更伟大的解决方案。任何其他人想出另一个解决方案都是在浪费时间。任何其他人在另一个人的解决方案下工作也是在浪费时间。唯一合乎逻辑的做法是加入他的团队，跟随他的指导工作。 那些在攻读人工智能学位的研究人员？浪费时间。因为他们不在 Athene 的指导下。在非洲送疫苗的医生？浪费时间，他们可以在 Athene 的团队中有更大的影响。两者都在产生影响，但两者都没有产生最大的影响，因为两者都不在 Athene 的团队中。 只要你愿意接受这个荒谬的前提，即 Athene 是世界上最聪明的人，这一切都是逻辑一致的。",0 267,dy1vwrp,"There are two aspects of immortality: 1. being repairable and 2. being indestructible. 1. Our bodies break down due to aging, bacteria, viruses, poison, injuries, etc. However, an AI that understood the human body on the cellular and subatomic levels would be quite good at fixing it when it broke - for whatever reason. Once AGI arrives, so would immortality (in the first sense). The second sense is not so easy to ensure...but it’s fun to think about. If something happens to you that causes your physical body to be completely rearranged without any hope of repair, it’s game over for you, no matter how good super AGI doctors are. (ie you trip over and fall into a volcano. There are just too many scenarios to list..) That means either: A) inserting your body into something very strong (ie a robot) or B) uploading your mind into something (ie a network) Option A leads to intense battles on a larger scale, between robots, space ships, etc. Option B leads to...deep philosophical questions about what it means to be “human”. ...AND the evolution of humans to an entirely new dimension and higher-level interaction with Reality. ","There are two aspects of immortality: 1. being repairable and 2. being indestructible. 1. Our bodies break down due to aging, bacteria, viruses, poison, injuries, etc. However, an AI that understood the human body on the cellular and subatomic levels would be quite good at fixing it when it broke - for whatever reason. Once AGI arrives, so would immortality (in the first sense). The second sense is not so easy to ensure...but its fun to think about. If something happens to you that causes your physical body to be completely rearranged without any hope of repair, its game over for you, no matter how good super AGI doctors are. (ie you trip over and fall into a volcano. There are just too many scenarios to list..) That means either: A) inserting your body into something very strong (ie a robot) or B) uploading your mind into something (ie a network) Option A leads to intense battles on a larger scale, between robots, space ships, etc. Option B leads to...deep philosophical questions about what it means to be human. ...AND the evolution of humans to an entirely new dimension and higher-level interaction with Reality.","永生有两个方面：1.可以修复和2.不可被摧毁。 1.我们的身体会因为老化、细菌、病毒、毒药、受伤等原因而分解。然而，一个理解人体在细胞和亚原子层面的人工智能在身体出现问题时会擅长修复它。 一旦通用人工智能出现，那么永生也就会实现（在第一层面上）。第二个层面不那么容易确保……但想想也挺有趣的。 如果发生了使你的身体完全重组而不可能得到修复的事件，那对你来说就是结束游戏，不管超级AGI医生有多厉害。（比如你绊倒掉进火山里。列举不完的情形。） 这意味着要么： A）把你的身体放进一些很坚固的东西里（比如一个机器人） 要么 B）上传你的意识到某个东西（比如一个网络） A选项会导致更大规模的机器人、太空飞船等之间的激烈对战。 B选项会引发……关于“人类”意味着什么的深刻哲学问题。还有人类向一个全新维度和与现实更高层次互动的演变。",0 4990,dy5zoyv,"> Why aren't there humanoid robots used in Starfleet? It's a multi-faceted answer which (over the course of all the shows) boils down to a combination of the tech they had access to and the question of when is an AI a life form? Robots where used. They just where not humanoid for the most part. Data was (more or less) unique in that respect being one of the few androids made by human hands. Data himself was eventually accepted as an individual with rights. Not everyone at Star Fleet felt that way of course with some wanting to make a whole army of Data's but thankfully that did not happen. Even when it comes down to the non humanoid robots, there's an episode where Data saves a group of ""Exocomps"" claiming them to be alive. In short, during TNG when it came to robotics and AI, the Federation was clearly at a technological point where the uncanny valley had been crossed . It's safe to assume morality questions that came with the tech where being asked and perhaps stopping certain routes being followed. As you say, replicator technology removed the requirement for large work forces. As for the more dangerous stuff that replicators couldn't do, in Voyager we see a mine being worked within Federation space by a bunch of holographic doctors. However, as we see over the course of Trek even holographic AI's could become self aware raising even more morality questions. So..yeah...without it never being directly addresses by the show, it just seemed creating humanoid robots was more trouble than it was worth for the federation. ","gt; Why aren't there humanoid robots used in Starfleet? It's a multi-faceted answer which (over the course of all the shows) boils down to a combination of the tech they had access to and the question of when is an AI a life form? Robots where used. They just where not humanoid for the most part. Data was (more or less) unique in that respect being one of the few androids made by human hands. Data himself was eventually accepted as an individual with rights. Not everyone at Star Fleet felt that way of course with some wanting to make a whole army of Data's but thankfully that did not happen. Even when it comes down to the non humanoid robots, there's an episode where Data saves a group of ""Exocomps"" claiming them to be alive. In short, during TNG when it came to robotics and AI, the Federation was clearly at a technological point where the uncanny valley had been crossed . It's safe to assume morality questions that came with the tech where being asked and perhaps stopping certain routes being followed. As you say, replicator technology removed the requirement for large work forces. As for the more dangerous stuff that replicators couldn't do, in Voyager we see a mine being worked within Federation space by a bunch of holographic doctors. However, as we see over the course of Trek even holographic AI's could become self aware raising even more morality questions. So..yeah...without it never being directly addresses by the show, it just seemed creating humanoid robots was more trouble than it was worth for the federation.","为什么星际舰队中没有使用类人机器人？ 这个问题有多方面的答案（在所有的剧集中）归结为他们所能接触到的技术和人工智能何时算是生命体的问题。 他们确实使用了机器人，但大部分并不是类人机器人。数据（更或少）是独特的在这方面，他是少数几个由人类制造的机器人之一。数据最终被认可为拥有权利的个体。当然，并不是每个星际舰队的人都这么想，有些人想要制造一整支数据的军队，但幸运的是那并没有发生。即使是对非类人机器人，也有一集里数据救了一群“Exocomps”，声称它们是有生命的。 简而言之，在《新星际旅行》时期，当涉及到机器人和人工智能时，联邦联盟显然已经越过了诡异谷，可以放心的假设随着科技的发展，伦理道德问题得到了解决，也许停止了某些道路的跟随。正如你所说，复制技术消除了大型劳动力的需求。 至于复制技术无法完成的更危险的事情，在《航海王》中我们看到在联邦领土内一处矿场由一群全息医生来运作。然而，正如我们在整个《星际旅行》系列中看到的，即便是全息人工智能也可能变得有自我意识，这又引发了更多的道德问题。 所以…是的…虽然剧集中从未直接探讨过这个问题，但似乎对于联邦联盟来说创造类人机器人带来的麻烦大于收益。",0 3728,dy6qu3k,">What's being presented today as ""artificial intelligence"" is nothing more than ""math on autopilot"" and nothing more. Your mind is electro-chemistry on autopilot. >A real person tells the machine what is ""good"" and ""bad"" and that can't be denied. Not explicitly, no. >So-called ""AI"" is misleading, because neither psychologists or neurologists completely understand what makes humans ""tick"" Don't have to. Neither completely or at all, in order to make AI. Doesn't need to use the same model. >and as we all know, the creation is never greater than the creator! Um... have you heard of **evolution** before? Because many creations are greater than their creator, including many offspring. Kinda how it works. Kinda how we were made, ya know.","gt;What's being presented today as ""artificial intelligence"" is nothing more than ""math on autopilot"" and nothing more. Your mind is electro-chemistry on autopilot. gt;A real person tells the machine what is ""good"" and ""bad"" and that can't be denied. Not explicitly, no. gt;So-called ""AI"" is misleading, because neither psychologists or neurologists completely understand what makes humans ""tick"" Don't have to. Neither completely or at all, in order to make AI. Doesn't need to use the same model. gt;and as we all know, the creation is never greater than the creator! Um... have you heard of evolution before? Because many creations are greater than their creator, including many offspring. Kinda how it works. Kinda how we were made, ya know.","今天所谓的“人工智能”其实就是“数学的自动驾驶”，仅此而已。 你的大脑就是化学电信号的自动驾驶。 真正的人告诉机器什么是“好”和“坏”，这是无可否认的。 并不是明确的，不是完全的。 所谓的“AI”是误导的，因为心理学家或神经学家都不完全理解人类是如何“tick”的。 不必完全理解或不理解，才能制造AI。不需要使用同样的模型。 就像我们知道的，创造物从来不会比创造者更伟大！ 嗯...你听说过**进化**吗？ 因为很多创造物都比创造者更伟大，包括很多后代。这就是运行的方式。就跟我们是如何被创造出来的一样，你知道的。",0 9,dy7ujr3,"Ugh that sucks. If you're able to change doctors, I recommend that. I got very luck and accidentally ended up with a doctor who is open to AIP and will actively look into things that I bring up. She really engages me in my health care, and she's referred me to other providers with that outlook. If ever move, I'm doctor shopping until I find another I can work with like her. It makes such a huge difference. I didn't even know what AI diseases were before her, and this is after YEARS of symptoms that other docs wrote off as stress, getting older (I'm in my 20s :-/) , or mental health. If your insurance and life circumstances allow, it's definitely worth changing docs.","Ugh that sucks. If you're able to change doctors, I recommend that. I got very luck and accidentally ended up with a doctor who is open to AIP and will actively look into things that I bring up. She really engages me in my health care, and she's referred me to other providers with that outlook. If ever move, I'm doctor shopping until I find another I can work with like her. It makes such a huge difference. I didn't even know what AI diseases were before her, and this is after YEARS of symptoms that other docs wrote off as stress, getting older (I'm in my 20s :-) , or mental health. If your insurance and life circumstances allow, it's definitely worth changing docs.","天啊，那真糟糕。如果你能换个医生，我建议你这么做。我很幸运，无意中找到了一个对AIP持开放态度的医生，她会积极调查我提出的问题。她真的很关心我的健康，还给我推荐了其他与她有一样态度的医生。 如果我搬家了，我会一直挑选医生直到找到另一个可以和她合作的。这真的会有很大的不同。在她之前，我甚至不知道什么是自身免疫疾病，而这是在其他医生把我的症状归咎于压力、年纪大了（我才20出头:-/）、或心理健康之后。 如果你的保险和生活状况允许的话，绝对值得换个医生。",0 3923,dy9wsyy,"> At what point do you ""trust"" the rarer things suggested by the AI? Assuming the Doctors are smart enough to rule out the common ones? ",gt; At what point do you "trust" the rarer things suggested by the AI? Assuming the Doctors are smart enough to rule out the common ones?,你对AI建议的罕见情况信任到什么程度？假设医生们足够聪明能排除常见情况？,1 72,dya04cz,"Doctor: *My* job can never be replaced by automation, I'm a doctor! Computer AI: Hold my RAM.","Doctor: My job can never be replaced by automation, I'm a doctor! Computer AI: Hold my RAM.","医生：我的工作永远不会被自动化取代，我可是医生呢！ 计算机AI：看我表现。",1 2803,dybd871,"Yeah, I've kinda figured that out. I'm trying to switch to a different clinic or just my doctor at this point. I've been looking up injecting myself as well. Seems like it would be less of a struggle. I am gonna see how my bloods turn out and I'm going to ask them to lower the dosage if my heart rate doesn't decrease after AI. ","Yeah, I've kinda figured that out. I'm trying to switch to a different clinic or just my doctor at this point. I've been looking up injecting myself as well. Seems like it would be less of a struggle. I am gonna see how my bloods turn out and I'm going to ask them to lower the dosage if my heart rate doesn't decrease after AI.",是啊，我已经有点想明白了。我正试着换个不同的诊所或者直接换个医生。我还在查自己注射的方法。感觉会轻松一些。我会看看我的血液检查结果，如果AI之后我的心率没有降下来的话，我会要求他们减少剂量。,0 3568,dybzjnq,"It feels like AI could take an approach not available to humans, AI can develop hundreds or thousands of theories about the relationship between what they can detect in different parts of the heart in scans and subsequent illness. They can they backtest each theory against thousands of pieces of data, to create scientifically supported evidence as to how risky any given person is. Taking a look at an AI's brain you might see this theory ""A thickness of between 1.34mm and 1.42mm is the optimal range for a healthy heart, for the upper top left 8% corner of the heart, 34 degrees clockwise from the central valve, in the lateral plane, individuals who lack this have a 0.3% increased chance of heart failure for each 0.09mm thicker or thinner, up to 1.59mm or below 1.21mm after this it increases to around 0.3% per 0.04mm of further variance"" Now imagine the AI has thousands of similar relationships like the above, as well as relationships where the relationships themselves vary based on the relationship of other relationships. The end result is something a doctor just doesn't have time to calculate. ","It feels like AI could take an approach not available to humans, AI can develop hundreds or thousands of theories about the relationship between what they can detect in different parts of the heart in scans and subsequent illness. They can they backtest each theory against thousands of pieces of data, to create scientifically supported evidence as to how risky any given person is. Taking a look at an AI's brain you might see this theory ""A thickness of between 1.34mm and 1.42mm is the optimal range for a healthy heart, for the upper top left 8 corner of the heart, 34 degrees clockwise from the central valve, in the lateral plane, individuals who lack this have a 0.3 increased chance of heart failure for each 0.09mm thicker or thinner, up to 1.59mm or below 1.21mm after this it increases to around 0.3 per 0.04mm of further variance"" Now imagine the AI has thousands of similar relationships like the above, as well as relationships where the relationships themselves vary based on the relationship of other relationships. The end result is something a doctor just doesn't have time to calculate.","感觉上，人工智能可能会采取一种人类无法做到的方法，人工智能可以针对心脏不同部位的扫描检测结果和随后的疾病之间的关系，发展出数百甚至数千种理论。它们可以对每个理论进行回测，根据成千上万条数据创建出科学支持的证据，来判断某个特定人的风险有多大。 看看人工智能的大脑，你可能会看到这样的理论：“对于心脏的左上角顶部，离中央瓣膜顺时针34度，处于侧面平面上，厚度在1.34毫米至1.42毫米之间是健康心脏的最佳范围。那些缺少这种厚度的人，每增加或减少0.09毫米，直到1.59毫米或低于1.21毫米时，心脏衰竭的风险会增加0.3％，之后每增加0.04毫米，风险又会增加0.3％。” 现在想象一下，人工智能有数千个类似上述关系，以及这些关系会基于其他关系的关系而变化。结果就是医生根本没有时间去计算的那些信息。",1 1650,dye2uuo,">Voters hate when politicians think they are above them... and here we have an entire ideology that loves to critique the intelligence of the average voter every chance they get See, you demand *artificial equality - respectful treatment of people regardless of whether their actions are worthy of respect*. This right-wing version of PC is at least as bad as the left-wing one: you just want to push ""equality of expertise/intelligence"" instead of ""equality of cultures/identities"". So, what if the insults are deserved? Is it smart to choose a doctor that is ""not above yourself"" instead of the best arrogant doctor available? In other word, are your feels more important than getting the results? >hostility and attacks on free speech. That’s the far bigger threat than so-called “idiocy” That sounds like ""yes"" to me. Now enjoy your left testicle being amputated instead of your appendix, because your chosen doctor is ""the kind of guy I'd like to have a beer with"".","gt;Voters hate when politicians think they are above them... and here we have an entire ideology that loves to critique the intelligence of the average voter every chance they get See, you demand artificial equality - respectful treatment of people regardless of whether their actions are worthy of respect. This right-wing version of PC is at least as bad as the left-wing one: you just want to push ""equality of expertiseintelligence"" instead of ""equality of culturesidentities"". So, what if the insults are deserved? Is it smart to choose a doctor that is ""not above yourself"" instead of the best arrogant doctor available? In other word, are your feels more important than getting the results? gt;hostility and attacks on free speech. Thats the far bigger threat than so-called idiocy That sounds like ""yes"" to me. Now enjoy your left testicle being amputated instead of your appendix, because your chosen doctor is ""the kind of guy I'd like to have a beer with"".","选民讨厌政客认为自己高人一等…而我们这里有一个完全喜欢在每一个机会批评普通选民的智商的意识形态。 看，你们要求*人为平等 - 尊重对待人们，而不管他们的行为是否值得尊重*。 这种右翼版的政治正确至少跟左翼的一样糟糕：你们只是想要推动“专业知识/智商的平等”而不是“文化/身份的平等”。 那么，如果这些侮辱是应该的呢？选择一位“跟你不高人一等”的医生而不是最优秀的自大医生聪明吗？ 换句话说，你的感受比获得结果更重要吗？ >对自由言论的敌意和攻击。那是比所谓的“愚蠢”更大的威胁 对我来说，这听起来就像是“是”。 现在，享受你的左睾丸被切除而不是你的阑尾，因为你选择的医生是“我想和他一起喝啤酒的那种人”。",0 4478,dye8d81,"Minimum wage going op doesn’t mean all jobs are going away, just the jobs that are not worthwhile enough to pay someone to do. If $2 minimum wage existed or child labor laws didn’t exist there would be more jobs, just look at China, but the more it costs an employer to hire someone, the more selective they will be about what positions they offer. The comment about all jobs going away related to the people who say robots and AI will be doing nearly every job before long. Doctors, plumbers, mechanics, artists, accountants, lawyers, teachers, and countless other professions are (according to some) on the verge of being completely automated. Which is conspiracy theory level nonsense but that doesn’t stop them from claiming it.","Minimum wage going op doesnt mean all jobs are going away, just the jobs that are not worthwhile enough to pay someone to do. If 2 minimum wage existed or child labor laws didnt exist there would be more jobs, just look at China, but the more it costs an employer to hire someone, the more selective they will be about what positions they offer. The comment about all jobs going away related to the people who say robots and AI will be doing nearly every job before long. Doctors, plumbers, mechanics, artists, accountants, lawyers, teachers, and countless other professions are (according to some) on the verge of being completely automated. Which is conspiracy theory level nonsense but that doesnt stop them from claiming it.","虽然最低工资水平提高并不意味着所有的工作都会消失，只是那些不值得付钱请人做的工作会消失。如果有2美元的最低工资或者没有童工法，就会出现更多的工作，就像中国一样，但是雇主要花更多的成本来雇佣员工，他们会更挑剔地选择提供什么职位。 关于所有的工作都会消失的说法，指的是那些说机器人和人工智能将很快做几乎所有的工作的人。医生、水管工、机械师、艺术家、会计师、律师、教师和其他无数职业（根据一些人的说法）都将完全实现自动化，这是阴谋论级别的废话，但这并不阻止他们这样宣称。",1 4262,dyht0lm,"I would recommend watching Captain America: Civil War (explains why the Avengers are splintered) Thor Ragnarok (where was The Hulk and Thor this whole time. Important for the first act) Black panther (Wakanda is a major setting in Infinity War) Doctor Strange (how magic was introduced into the MCU) and Spiderman: Homecoming (Stark and Spidey's relationship is a major part of the movie. Also explains how Spidey showed up in Civil War). Thats IF you care about how all the characters end up in the same place. You'll be caught up with just that if you've never seen a MCU movie ever before. If you don't care about how they all got to where they are then you can skip them. But honestly you left at the peak of the movies. Thor, black panther and spider are possibly the best the MCU has put out since the beginning. You kinda dipped out at the wrong time. Don't read ahead if you want to avoid spoilers for Avengers 2. It's been three years but still. For Avengers 2 you just need to know Tony fucks up and creates a genocidal self replicating robot AI. Causes the Avengers to team up to take down the robot swarm. Final battle has Quicksilver (Wanda's speedster brother who will never be mentioned again) get killed, hulk gets sent out to space, and Vision is created by combining an Ultron robot with the Mind Stone. Also Hawkeye explains how he wants to retire with family, and Vision falls in love with Wanda. The destruction they cause fighting the robots lead to Civil War because countries want to register all super heros. If you like I can PM you the important lasting details of each movie in a paragraph format like that if you like. Edit: Also, don't worry about any TV shows or the X-Men. Those aren't really referenced. The only Spider Man in the MCU is the only one you haven't seen Spiderman: Homecoming. ","I would recommend watching Captain America: Civil War (explains why the Avengers are splintered) Thor Ragnarok (where was The Hulk and Thor this whole time. Important for the first act) Black panther (Wakanda is a major setting in Infinity War) Doctor Strange (how magic was introduced into the MCU) and Spiderman: Homecoming (Stark and Spidey's relationship is a major part of the movie. Also explains how Spidey showed up in Civil War). Thats IF you care about how all the characters end up in the same place. You'll be caught up with just that if you've never seen a MCU movie ever before. If you don't care about how they all got to where they are then you can skip them. But honestly you left at the peak of the movies. Thor, black panther and spider are possibly the best the MCU has put out since the beginning. You kinda dipped out at the wrong time. Don't read ahead if you want to avoid spoilers for Avengers 2. It's been three years but still. For Avengers 2 you just need to know Tony fucks up and creates a genocidal self replicating robot AI. Causes the Avengers to team up to take down the robot swarm. Final battle has Quicksilver (Wanda's speedster brother who will never be mentioned again) get killed, hulk gets sent out to space, and Vision is created by combining an Ultron robot with the Mind Stone. Also Hawkeye explains how he wants to retire with family, and Vision falls in love with Wanda. The destruction they cause fighting the robots lead to Civil War because countries want to register all super heros. If you like I can PM you the important lasting details of each movie in a paragraph format like that if you like. Edit: Also, don't worry about any TV shows or the X-Men. Those aren't really referenced. The only Spider Man in the MCU is the only one you haven't seen Spiderman: Homecoming.","我会推荐看《美国队长3：内战》（解释复仇者联盟为何分崩离析）、《雷神3：诸神黄昏》（整个时间里绿巨人和雷神在哪）《黑豹》（瓦坎达是《无限战争》中的重要背景）、《奇异博士》（解释了魔法是如何被引入漫威电影宇宙的）、《蜘蛛侠：归来》（史塔克和蜘蛛侠的关系是电影的一大重点。也解释了蜘蛛侠为何会在《内战》中出现）。只有你在乎所有角色如何都聚集到同一个地方的话，我才会推荐这些。 只要看这些，就算以前从没看过漫威电影，你也能跟上剧情。如果你不在乎他们是如何到达现在的地步，那你可以跳过这些。但老实说，你离开的时间点真的不太对。自《复仇者联盟》系列以来，雷神、黑豹和蜘蛛侠可能是漫威电影宇宙推出的最棒的电影了。 如果你想避免《复仇者2》的剧透的话，就不要往下看了。虽然已经过去三年了。 对于《复仇者2》，你只需要知道托尼搞砸了，创造了一个致命的自我复制机器人人工智能。这导致复仇者联盟团队联合起来对抗机器人大军。最后的战斗中，快银（旺达的哥哥，之后再也没有被提及）被杀，绿巨人被送入太空，维京通过将奥创机器人与心灵宝石结合而产生。此外，鹰眼解释了他想与家人一起退休，维京爱上了旺达。他们打击机器人所造成的破坏导致了《内战》，因为各国想要注册所有超级英雄。 如果你愿意的话，我可以给你私信发送每部电影中重要且持续的剧情细节，以段落形式。 另外，别担心任何电视剧或者X战警。这些并不常被提及。漫威电影宇宙里唯一的蜘蛛侠就是你还没看过的《蜘蛛侠：归来》里的那一个。",0 4709,dyjtvlu,"Funny you mention the grumpy old man because I was literally writing a post talking about ""what 18 year old me would do"". Now get off my lawn. Seriously, though, I hope it isn't anything other than optimistic. Mining is what it always has been, my post doesn't change any of the facts or realities. If you're searching and already interested in mining, why not: - Learn CUDA/OpenCL for AI/ML/CV/etc. This is HUGE. Only going to get better and bigger. If I was still interested in building a career this is what I would go for now. I cannot stress how valuable this skill set is and how much growth potential there is. The biggest barrier to entry here are the expensive GPUs and guess what - you already have those! - Systems administration. Install Linux on your rig (or dual boot a few hours a day) and get under the hood. The software is free, the docs are there, and the potential is almost limitless. Without getting into too much personal detail this is where I hit it big. - Networking. Mining rigs communicate over the network. Get a cheap refurbished router/switch/etc beyond the standard Linksys and play with everything from traffic shaping to Wake-on-Lan. - Embedded systems. Get a Raspberry PI or Arduino and some sensors, relays, etc, etc to monitor and control your rig remotely. The Raspberry PI runs Linux too so all of the points above are valid (people are even doing some legit computer vision stuff on RPI these days). I disagree with your conclusion. A technology career is the only career I know of where all of the following is true: - No college is required. - No professional certification is required. - Growth is guaranteed. - The average income is far above national average income for almost all other professions. - You can ""hit the lottery"" with a startup. The best (and highest paid) developers I've ever worked with started with nothing more than a work ethic, computer, and internet connection. They make more and have higher job security than most doctors or lawyers. You absolutely cannot say the same thing about any other endeavor. I'm talking about this here because if you're interested in mining you're already on your way.","Funny you mention the grumpy old man because I was literally writing a post talking about ""what 18 year old me would do"". Now get off my lawn. Seriously, though, I hope it isn't anything other than optimistic. Mining is what it always has been, my post doesn't change any of the facts or realities. If you're searching and already interested in mining, why not: - Learn CUDAOpenCL for AIMLCVetc. This is HUGE. Only going to get better and bigger. If I was still interested in building a career this is what I would go for now. I cannot stress how valuable this skill set is and how much growth potential there is. The biggest barrier to entry here are the expensive GPUs and guess what - you already have those! - Systems administration. Install Linux on your rig (or dual boot a few hours a day) and get under the hood. The software is free, the docs are there, and the potential is almost limitless. Without getting into too much personal detail this is where I hit it big. - Networking. Mining rigs communicate over the network. Get a cheap refurbished routerswitchetc beyond the standard Linksys and play with everything from traffic shaping to Wake-on-Lan. - Embedded systems. Get a Raspberry PI or Arduino and some sensors, relays, etc, etc to monitor and control your rig remotely. The Raspberry PI runs Linux too so all of the points above are valid (people are even doing some legit computer vision stuff on RPI these days). I disagree with your conclusion. A technology career is the only career I know of where all of the following is true: - No college is required. - No professional certification is required. - Growth is guaranteed. - The average income is far above national average income for almost all other professions. - You can ""hit the lottery"" with a startup. The best (and highest paid) developers I've ever worked with started with nothing more than a work ethic, computer, and internet connection. They make more and have higher job security than most doctors or lawyers. You absolutely cannot say the same thing about any other endeavor. I'm talking about this here because if you're interested in mining you're already on your way.","你说到那个脾气暴躁的老头真是太有趣了，因为我刚写了一篇关于“18岁的我会做什么”的帖子。 现在快点离开我的草坪。 说真的，我希望你的想法除了乐观之外没有别的。挖矿一直都是老样子，我写的帖子并没有改变任何事实或现实。 如果你正在寻找并且对挖矿已经感兴趣，为什么不： - 学习CUDA/OpenCL用于人工智能/机器学习/计算机视觉等。这个领域很重要，而且会越来越大。如果我还对建立职业感兴趣的话，现在我会选择这个。我无法强调这种技能集有多么有价值以及增长潜力有多大。这里的最大入门障碍是昂贵的GPU，而且你已经有了！ - 系统管理。在你的设备上安装Linux系统（或者每天用双系统启动几个小时），深入了解。软件是免费的，文档也在那里，潜力几乎无限。不想过多透露个人细节，但这就是我取得巨大成功的地方。 - 网络。挖矿设备通过网络通信。买一个廉价的翻新路由器/交换机等，超过标准的Linksys，尝试一切，从流量整形到远程唤醒。 - 嵌入式系统。购买一个树莓派或Arduino和一些传感器、继电器等等，远程监控和控制你的设备。树莓派也运行Linux系统，所以上面的所有点都是有效的（现在人们甚至在树莓派上做一些真正的计算机视觉工作）。 我不同意你的结论。科技行业是我所知道的唯一一个满足以下所有条件的行业： - 不需要大学学历。 - 不需要专业认证。 - 成长是有保证的。 - 平均收入远高于几乎所有其他职业的全国平均收入。 - 你可以通过创业“中彩票”。 我和一起工作过的最好（薪水最高）的开发者，起步只是靠着职业道德、电脑和网络连接。他们的薪水比大多数医生或律师还高，工作稳定得多。你绝对不能说其他职业也是一样的。 我在这里讨论这个话题，因为如果你对挖矿感兴趣，你已经在成长的路上了。",0 198,dykjfm6,Noooo! A few weeks to a month! Mabe even longer depending on how bad it's crashed! It's easier to lower e2 and fast but longer and harder to raise it! My friend crashed his e2 by taking an AI his doctor gave him and took him 3 months to get it back to normal. ,Noooo! A few weeks to a month! Mabe even longer depending on how bad it's crashed! It's easier to lower e2 and fast but longer and harder to raise it! My friend crashed his e2 by taking an AI his doctor gave him and took him 3 months to get it back to normal.,天啊！可能要几周甚至一个月！甚至可能更长，要看情况有多严重！降低雌二醇比较容易且快，但提高它则需要更长时间和更大努力！我朋友因为医生给他开的AI药物导致雌二醇崩溃，花了3个月才恢复正常。,0 611,dykkeuv,"That's exactly what makes it a good example, It takes a long time to train people to become a doctor, that's correct. It takes a certain level of intellectual ability to become a doctor, it takes someone willing to work long hours. The demand for doctors will only ever increase, so unless there is major breakthroughs for AI in medical fields, or they find a way to train more doctors faster, ""everyone working 4 hours a day"" is a pipe dream, that both makes no sense, and ends up having specific sets of people still working 80 hours a week while others will be working <20hours.","That's exactly what makes it a good example, It takes a long time to train people to become a doctor, that's correct. It takes a certain level of intellectual ability to become a doctor, it takes someone willing to work long hours. The demand for doctors will only ever increase, so unless there is major breakthroughs for AI in medical fields, or they find a way to train more doctors faster, ""everyone working 4 hours a day"" is a pipe dream, that both makes no sense, and ends up having specific sets of people still working 80 hours a week while others will be working lt;20hours.",这确实是一个很好的例子，要培养成为一名医生需要很长时间，这点没错。成为一名医生需要一定水平的智力，也需要愿意长时间工作的人。对医生的需求只会增加，所以除非在医学领域有重大的人工智能突破，或者他们找到一种更快培养医生的方法，“每个人每天工作4小时”的梦想只是一厢情愿，既不合理，最终会导致一些人仍然每周工作80小时，而其他人可能只工作不到20小时。,1 3539,dykxicn,"This is a fantastic question. I don't know that we really have any idea yet since it's such a new field and I fully expect the laws to be several years behind AI advancements. That being said, I can give my own opinions, speaking off the cuff with little research, just my own interest and knowledge of tech/AI, which is not at expert level, but above the average population I'd say. 1. Facial Recognition: I believe there should be legal restrictions. Treat it like HIPPA. Ok to store facial data securely, as the iPhone X does, but huge fines and jail time if your company transmits or loses that data in ANY way. Or just outlaw it completely. The government DEFINITELY should NOT be using it in any way shape or form. Period. 2. Always Listening: ONLY if asked to by the user. I would accept the Alexa method of being ""always on"" but only listening for an activating word (in this case, ""Alexa""), but having PHYSICAL limitations that prevent storing what is heard while always on, like very small active memory, which is dumped when the activation word is heard and turns on the real memory. Again, no 1984 shit please. 3. Purchase for elderly: I don't want any AI buying things for me. I can do my own Amazon shopping, thanks. I would add: - Self Driving Cars. IMO, the government should be moving us towards fully autonomous vehicles as quickly as possible. The technology is there if we retrofit it to every car on the road and linked them together. This would obviously be expensive, but it would pay for itself from increased tax revenue from the lives saved (and their kids, and their kids' kids, who would never have been born had their parents died in car accidents that would've occurred without autonomous driving.) - Healthcare: This is murky. But I like AI being used as a tool in healthcare as Watson is now for Cancer. I don't want us allowing an AI to overrule human doctors, especially for decisions like removing life support. No robot death panels please. Edit: I would also add military. I'd rather have no killer AI bots please. Thanks. ","This is a fantastic question. I don't know that we really have any idea yet since it's such a new field and I fully expect the laws to be several years behind AI advancements. That being said, I can give my own opinions, speaking off the cuff with little research, just my own interest and knowledge of techAI, which is not at expert level, but above the average population I'd say. 1. Facial Recognition: I believe there should be legal restrictions. Treat it like HIPPA. Ok to store facial data securely, as the iPhone X does, but huge fines and jail time if your company transmits or loses that data in ANY way. Or just outlaw it completely. The government DEFINITELY should NOT be using it in any way shape or form. Period. 2. Always Listening: ONLY if asked to by the user. I would accept the Alexa method of being ""always on"" but only listening for an activating word (in this case, ""Alexa""), but having PHYSICAL limitations that prevent storing what is heard while always on, like very small active memory, which is dumped when the activation word is heard and turns on the real memory. Again, no 1984 shit please. 3. Purchase for elderly: I don't want any AI buying things for me. I can do my own Amazon shopping, thanks. I would add: - Self Driving Cars. IMO, the government should be moving us towards fully autonomous vehicles as quickly as possible. The technology is there if we retrofit it to every car on the road and linked them together. This would obviously be expensive, but it would pay for itself from increased tax revenue from the lives saved (and their kids, and their kids' kids, who would never have been born had their parents died in car accidents that would've occurred without autonomous driving.) - Healthcare: This is murky. But I like AI being used as a tool in healthcare as Watson is now for Cancer. I don't want us allowing an AI to overrule human doctors, especially for decisions like removing life support. No robot death panels please. Edit: I would also add military. I'd rather have no killer AI bots please. Thanks.","这是一个很棒的问题。我不确定我们现在真的有任何想法，因为这是一个全新的领域，我完全预期法律会落后于人工智能的进步几年。话虽如此，我可以在没有太多研究的情况下，就我的兴趣和对科技/人工智能的了解发表我的个人意见。我不是专家，但我会说比一般人懂得多一些。 1. 面部识别：我认为应该有法律限制。像HIPPA法案一样对待它。把面部数据安全存储，就像iPhone X那样，但如果你的公司以任何方式传输或丢失了那些数据，就要受到巨额罚款和监禁。或者干脆将其完全禁止。政府绝对不应该以任何方式使用它。没有商量。 2. 一直在听：只有在用户要求的情况下。我可以接受亚历克斯的方法“一直开着”，但只是在听激活词（在这种情况下是“亚历克斯”）时，有物理限制防止在一直开着时存储听到的东西，比如使用非常小的主动内存，当听到激活词并打开真正的内存时就会被清空。再一次，不要搞什么《1984》的东西。 3. 为老年人购物：我不希望任何人工智能给我买东西。我可以自己在亚马逊买东西，谢谢。 我还会添加： - 自动驾驶汽车。在我看来，政府应尽快将我们引向完全自主的汽车。只要我们把这项技术改装到每辆车上并将它们连接在一起，这是可能的。这显然会很昂贵，但从减少的生命所带来的增加的税收中支付成本（以及他们的孩子和他们孩子的孩子，他们本来会在没有自动驾驶汽车的情况下死于车祸的生命）。 - 医疗保健：这很模糊。但我喜欢将人工智能用作医疗保健工具，就像沃森现在为癌症所做的那样。我不希望我们允许人工智能否决人类医生，尤其是在像取消生命支持这样的决定中。没有机器人的死亡小组。 编辑：我还想添加军事。我不想要杀人的人工智能机器人。谢谢。",1 3675,dyldhrz,"CEO just sounds like a tool. ""Using AI and machine learning, we will match patients, with doctors.""","CEO just sounds like a tool. ""Using AI and machine learning, we will match patients, with doctors.""",CEO听起来就像是个工具。“利用人工智能和机器学习，我们将把患者与医生匹配起来。”,1 4807,dyncgro,"I agree. One of my biggest gripes about the AI in this game is that even when your doctor has his ""treat patient"" job priority set to 1, he will continue stargazing or meditating for like an hour before getting to work treating a patient unless manually assigned. Is a pain in the ass for those deseises where the immunity is SUPER close to the development, leaves very little margin for error.","I agree. One of my biggest gripes about the AI in this game is that even when your doctor has his ""treat patient"" job priority set to 1, he will continue stargazing or meditating for like an hour before getting to work treating a patient unless manually assigned. Is a pain in the ass for those deseises where the immunity is SUPER close to the development, leaves very little margin for error.",我同意。我最大的抱怨之一是，这个游戏里的AI即使医生把“治疗病人”工作优先级设置为1，他还是会继续凝视星空或沉思，之前去治疗病人之前要花上一个小时，除非手动分配。对于那些免疫力和病情发展非常接近的疾病来说，这真的很麻烦，几乎没有什么错误的余地。,0 1463,dyoqga2,I think I saw the Watson AI once identified a disease that a doctor cant. ,I think I saw the Watson AI once identified a disease that a doctor cant.,"我想我曾经看到沃森人工智能成功识别出了医生无法辨别的一种疾病。 我相信这个句子是在描述人工智能的能力比医生更厉害。因为人工智能可以通过大量数据和算法来识别疾病，而医生可能会遇到一些较为罕见的病例，人工智能可能更容易做出正确的判断。",1 1472,dypsmqj,"I sat on the porch of my current house in a rocking chair. I felt tired and worn out. The chair next to me began rocking. ""My old friend you've come to see what I've been tinkering with this time huh?"" A figure appeared, with a scythe leaning against the wall. No death didn't come to kill me, we had become sort of friends over the ages. He helped slow my aging down to allow me to live as long as I liked. I still remember that first meeting clearly. The sky was a blaze with roaring fires, dead men all around. The trenches stunk of it, but even then I tinkered. I was working on a method to help stop the bleeding from a bullet wound. It involved using a new absorbant which hadn't been fully tested yet, and was only cleared for industrial uses. I'm sure if any of my buddies complained of side effects, they'd remember the worse outcome. Ironically enough the reason for the first meeting was because I had been transfered to a medic team on the front lines and was sent to recover a soldier. As I was dragging him back I felt the world shatter. I awoke to see my body laying there and a dark figure next to me. He wasn't looking at me but what I had in my hand. It was my latest contraption to hold the absorbant and keep the blood in the body. I awoke again in a field hospital as I watched the black clad figure leave and disappear in the doorway. The doctors couldn't figure it out. I should've bleed out in the field or in transport. I tried to glance down and saw a line of bandages from my navel up to my right shoulder. I knew there was no reason on this earth I had survived. That day was almost a century ago now. I've met death a number of times and always when working on different projects. I remember an accident during the Manhattan project, three other scientist were killed instantly when the reaction ran uncontrollably. Somehow I was spared. I remember floating in the capsule out in the vacuum of space between Terra and Luna wondering how we were going to get home. I remember creating a new device and program with a friend of mine, we used an apple with a bite out of it to snub our noses at the religious. So many memories, so many lives lived. Now I was tired, I just wanted it to all end. The tv in the living room flicked on, I knew it was death. I should've never showed him how the electronics worked, but he was just as interested as I was. ""The creator of the newest addition to Google has recluse himself to his retirement home in an undisclosed location. We are proud of the advancements made to roll out the new Google AI and self driving cars....."" The chair creaked as I heard death sit back down again. I knew, I just knew he wast' going to let me stop living yet. He was worse than a child wanting to see what was next.","I sat on the porch of my current house in a rocking chair. I felt tired and worn out. The chair next to me began rocking. ""My old friend you've come to see what I've been tinkering with this time huh?"" A figure appeared, with a scythe leaning against the wall. No death didn't come to kill me, we had become sort of friends over the ages. He helped slow my aging down to allow me to live as long as I liked. I still remember that first meeting clearly. The sky was a blaze with roaring fires, dead men all around. The trenches stunk of it, but even then I tinkered. I was working on a method to help stop the bleeding from a bullet wound. It involved using a new absorbant which hadn't been fully tested yet, and was only cleared for industrial uses. I'm sure if any of my buddies complained of side effects, they'd remember the worse outcome. Ironically enough the reason for the first meeting was because I had been transfered to a medic team on the front lines and was sent to recover a soldier. As I was dragging him back I felt the world shatter. I awoke to see my body laying there and a dark figure next to me. He wasn't looking at me but what I had in my hand. It was my latest contraption to hold the absorbant and keep the blood in the body. I awoke again in a field hospital as I watched the black clad figure leave and disappear in the doorway. The doctors couldn't figure it out. I should've bleed out in the field or in transport. I tried to glance down and saw a line of bandages from my navel up to my right shoulder. I knew there was no reason on this earth I had survived. That day was almost a century ago now. I've met death a number of times and always when working on different projects. I remember an accident during the Manhattan project, three other scientist were killed instantly when the reaction ran uncontrollably. Somehow I was spared. I remember floating in the capsule out in the vacuum of space between Terra and Luna wondering how we were going to get home. I remember creating a new device and program with a friend of mine, we used an apple with a bite out of it to snub our noses at the religious. So many memories, so many lives lived. Now I was tired, I just wanted it to all end. The tv in the living room flicked on, I knew it was death. I should've never showed him how the electronics worked, but he was just as interested as I was. ""The creator of the newest addition to Google has recluse himself to his retirement home in an undisclosed location. We are proud of the advancements made to roll out the new Google AI and self driving cars....."" The chair creaked as I heard death sit back down again. I knew, I just knew he wast' going to let me stop living yet. He was worse than a child wanting to see what was next.","我就坐在我现在的房子的门廊上的摇椅上。我感到又累又疲惫。我旁边的椅子开始摇动起来。 “老朋友，你又来看我这次在搞什么了，是吧？” 一个身影出现了，一把镰刀靠在墙边。不，死神并不是来杀我，我们已经成为了某种程度的朋友。他帮助我减缓了衰老的速度，让我可以活得尽情而长。我依然清楚地记得我们第一次碰面。 天空燃烧着熊熊烈火，到处都是倒下的人。战壕里的味道实在太臭了，但即便在那时，我依然在搞研究。我在研究一种能够帮助止血的方法，涉及到使用一种新的吸收剂，还未进行充分测试，只被批准用于工业用途。我确信，如果我的哥们们有任何副作用的抱怨，他们肯定会记住最糟糕的结果。 具有讽刺意味的是，我们第一次见面是因为我被调到了前线的医疗小组，被派去救援一个士兵。当我正拖着他回去的时候，我感觉世界在摇晃。接着我醒来，看到自己的身体躺在那里，旁边站着一个黑色身影。他没有看着我，而是看着我手上的东西。那是我最新的用来固定吸收剂并保持血液在体内的装置。 我再次醒来，发现自己躺在一个野战医院里，看着那个黑衣身影离开并在门口消失。医生们搞不清楚。我应该在战场上或在运输途中流血过多而死。我试图低头看了看，发现一排绷带从我的脐部一直延伸到右肩上。我知道在这个世界上，我根本没理由活下来。 那天已经将近一个世纪了。我与死神见过多次面，每次都在研究不同的项目。我还记得曼哈顿计划中的一次事故，当反应失控时，其他三位科学家立刻丧生。而我竟然幸免于难。我还记得漂浮在地球和月球之间真空中的太空舱里，不知道我们怎样才能回家。我还记得我和一个朋友一起创造了一个新的设备和程序，我们使用一个被咬了一口的苹果来嘲笑信徒。 那么多的回忆，那么多的生活。现在我累了，我只想让一切结束。客厅里的电视突然打开了，我知道是死神。我不应该让他知道电子设备是如何工作的，但他和我一样感兴趣。 “谷歌最新成就的创造者已经隐退到他在一个不为人知的地方的退休之家。我们为推出新的谷歌人工智能和自动驾驶汽车所做的进步感到骄傲……” 摇椅吱吱作响，我听到死神又重新坐了下来。我知道，我就知道他不会让我停止活着的。他简直比一个想知道下一步发生什么的孩子还要坏。",0 3054,dyt4gq0,"We do that already. Banking is basically machines talking to each other. Same goes for pretty much anything that doesn't involve direct human interaction. Hell, I can actually book restaurants through Yelp, and I don't need to say a word to the restaurant manager, at all. I guess that it gets me a bit angry that some self proclaimed ""technologists"" are pushing the narrative of an AI talking to people as something outrageous. The common folk would definitely find this positive. I, for instance, despise having to call to do basic stuff such as booking an doctor's appointment, and whenever I could, I'd do it using a website.","We do that already. Banking is basically machines talking to each other. Same goes for pretty much anything that doesn't involve direct human interaction. Hell, I can actually book restaurants through Yelp, and I don't need to say a word to the restaurant manager, at all. I guess that it gets me a bit angry that some self proclaimed ""technologists"" are pushing the narrative of an AI talking to people as something outrageous. The common folk would definitely find this positive. I, for instance, despise having to call to do basic stuff such as booking an doctor's appointment, and whenever I could, I'd do it using a website.","我们已经在做这个了。 银行基本上就是机器互相通信。基本上所有不涉及直接人际交互的事情都是这样。天啊，我甚至可以通过Yelp预订餐厅，完全不需要和餐厅经理说一句话。 我想有些自称为“技术专家”的人在推动人工智能与人交流的故事时，让我有点生气。普通人肯定会觉得这是件好事。比如说，我讨厌要打电话去做像预约看医生这样的基本事情，只要有机会，我就会通过网站来做。",1 1441,dywf0wh,"Complex software and hardware. I think there are several AI doctor projects in research & development already. You mention doctors getting it wrong sometimes, a sufficiently advanced AI will always reliably get the right answer. Humans will never be perfect, so we will never be able to compete with automation in the long run. Anything a human can do, a computer/robot will be able to do it better in the not-too-distant future. Under capitalism, companies will quickly switch to automated labour as soon as it is viable because it will lead to better profit margins for business. Honestly, in just a few decades there will be no jobs left for humans. If we don’t ensure the product of automation is owned by everyone equally before that point, we’re going to be in for a pretty bad time.","Complex software and hardware. I think there are several AI doctor projects in research amp; development already. You mention doctors getting it wrong sometimes, a sufficiently advanced AI will always reliably get the right answer. Humans will never be perfect, so we will never be able to compete with automation in the long run. Anything a human can do, a computerrobot will be able to do it better in the not-too-distant future. Under capitalism, companies will quickly switch to automated labour as soon as it is viable because it will lead to better profit margins for business. Honestly, in just a few decades there will be no jobs left for humans. If we dont ensure the product of automation is owned by everyone equally before that point, were going to be in for a pretty bad time."," 我觉得现在已经有好几个人工智能医生项目在研发了。你说医生有时候会出错，但是一个足够先进的人工智能将总是能可靠地给出正确答案。人类永远不会完美无缺，所以我们永远无法和自动化竞争。 未来不久，任何人类能做到的事情，计算机/机器人都能做得更好。在资本主义下，一旦自动化劳动变得可行，公司就会迅速转向自动化，因为这会提高企业的利润率。 老实说，再过几十年人类就没有工作可做了。如果我们在这之前不确保自动化的产品平等地属于每个人，那时我们就会陷入困境。",1 1236,dyy2ly5,"I think we will soon reduce costs with AI-assisted diagnoses, and perhaps the role of human doctors will be vastly reduced, saving money for everyone. Maybe at that point we could actually have healthcare.","I think we will soon reduce costs with AI-assisted diagnoses, and perhaps the role of human doctors will be vastly reduced, saving money for everyone. Maybe at that point we could actually have healthcare.",我觉得我们很快会通过AI辅助诊断来降低成本，也许人类医生的角色会大大减少，为每个人节省开支。也许到那时候我们真的可以享受到医疗保健。,1 4599,dyy56ca,"I don't think this stage will happen, Ie once AI doctors become good enough. Software is free, so even if it costs $99 for the tech. The tech company is making $98.5. The tech company can be taxed. Technology costs drop quickly with mass adoption. I think the painful part will be the government s slower reaction and miss management. In this future there is a risk of big government. And the risk that the government goes with something other than universal pay, or over regulates the free market.","I don't think this stage will happen, Ie once AI doctors become good enough. Software is free, so even if it costs 99 for the tech. The tech company is making 98.5. The tech company can be taxed. Technology costs drop quickly with mass adoption. I think the painful part will be the government s slower reaction and miss management. In this future there is a risk of big government. And the risk that the government goes with something other than universal pay, or over regulates the free market.","我觉得这个阶段不会出现，也就是说一旦人工智能医生变得足够好。软件是免费的，所以即使技术成本为99美元。技术公司赚了98.5美元。技术公司可以被税收。 随着大规模采用，技术成本迅速下降。 我认为痛苦的部分将是政府反应慢和管理失误。在这个未来存在着大政府的风险。政府存在超过普遍支付的其他东西，或者过度监管自由市场的风险。",1 1871,dz5wmii,"Most hard sci-fi shows that deal with space travel in the far-ish future have to handwave the AI issue, because if we have human-level AI and robots/cyborgs as a common feature there is really no reason to have humans piloting spaceships, so a lot of the 'fun' gets sucked away and it is harder to make the audience care about the non-human characters. Battlestar Galactica artfully avoided this by making AI the enemy. With that said, the expanse does have what would be considered AI 'expert systems' like the combat computer on the Roci as well as the med bay, which is almost fully autonomous, hence why they don't **need** a doctor on the ship. Basically they allow for AI that are really good at one thing in particular and thus have control of that aspect of the ship, but humans are still 'in charge.' ","Most hard sci-fi shows that deal with space travel in the far-ish future have to handwave the AI issue, because if we have human-level AI and robotscyborgs as a common feature there is really no reason to have humans piloting spaceships, so a lot of the 'fun' gets sucked away and it is harder to make the audience care about the non-human characters. Battlestar Galactica artfully avoided this by making AI the enemy. With that said, the expanse does have what would be considered AI 'expert systems' like the combat computer on the Roci as well as the med bay, which is almost fully autonomous, hence why they don't need a doctor on the ship. Basically they allow for AI that are really good at one thing in particular and thus have control of that aspect of the ship, but humans are still 'in charge.'","大多数以遥远未来太空旅行为背景的硬科幻剧集都不得不含糊过去人工智能的问题，因为如果我们有了人类级别的AI和机器人/改造人作为常见特征，那么就真的没有理由让人类驾驶宇宙飞船了，所以很多的“乐趣”都消失了，也更难让观众关心那些非人类的角色。《星际大战》巧妙地避开了这个问题，通过让AI成为敌人。 话虽这么说，《星云》确实拥有被视为AI“专家系统”的东西，比如Roci号上的战斗计算机以及几乎是完全自主的医疗舱，所以他们不**需要**飞船上的医生。基本上，他们允许针对某一特定事物非常擅长的AI控制飞船的那方面，但人类仍然“掌控”着。",0 3867,dzbz4t9,"Yes, the job will fundamentally change. Research shows that computer recognition and humans tend to be similar in accuracy separately, together though, they're better than either alone. The usual suggestion is AI reads will be an adjunct to a pathologist practice as opposed to replacing the pathologist. Technology is being introduced to help doctors. Not replace them. I remember when everyone said those McDonalds ordering kiosk would replace cashiers. Every time I go into a McDonalds theres 20 people waiting in line and not one person using the Kiosk. The tech is meant to help alleviate lines at McDonalds. NOT replace cashiers. ","Yes, the job will fundamentally change. Research shows that computer recognition and humans tend to be similar in accuracy separately, together though, they're better than either alone. The usual suggestion is AI reads will be an adjunct to a pathologist practice as opposed to replacing the pathologist. Technology is being introduced to help doctors. Not replace them. I remember when everyone said those McDonalds ordering kiosk would replace cashiers. Every time I go into a McDonalds theres 20 people waiting in line and not one person using the Kiosk. The tech is meant to help alleviate lines at McDonalds. NOT replace cashiers.","是的，这份工作会发生根本性的改变。研究表明，计算机识别和人类的准确度分开来看是相似的，但是当它们一起工作时，结果要比单独任何一方都要好。通常的建议是，人工智能阅片将成为病理学实践的辅助，而不是取代病理学家。 技术的引入是为了帮助医生，而不是取代他们。我记得以前大家都说那些麦当劳的点餐机会取代收银员。可是每次我去麦当劳都看到20个人在排队，却没有人使用点餐机。这项技术的目的是帮助减轻麦当劳的排队压力，而不是取代收银员。",1 1119,dzcko56,"The doctor who leaves you in a cryopod and abandons you. The doctor who puts you back into the cryopod after you just spent 2 minutes releasing yourself. The one assistant who takes the insulateds at roundstart just so nobody else can have them. The guy who plays bartender just for the shotgun. The detective who acts like security with a better gun. The AI that locks down anything remotely valuable. The clown who uses his job as an excuse to be an unfunny, unoriginal asshole to everyone around him(typically not even wearing his clown shoes so as to have a bit more speed) Fuck all of these people, hell isn't hot enough for them.","The doctor who leaves you in a cryopod and abandons you. The doctor who puts you back into the cryopod after you just spent 2 minutes releasing yourself. The one assistant who takes the insulateds at roundstart just so nobody else can have them. The guy who plays bartender just for the shotgun. The detective who acts like security with a better gun. The AI that locks down anything remotely valuable. The clown who uses his job as an excuse to be an unfunny, unoriginal asshole to everyone around him(typically not even wearing his clown shoes so as to have a bit more speed) Fuck all of these people, hell isn't hot enough for them.","那个医生把你放在冷冻舱里然后就不管你了。 那个医生在你刚刚花了两分钟解救自己后又把你放回冷冻舱里。 那个助手在开始的时候就把保温材料拿走，就是为了别人拿不到。 那个家伙只是为了霰弹枪才当酒保。 侦探装得自己比保安还厉害。 人工智能把一切有价值的东西都锁起来。 小丑把自己的工作当借口对身边的人们一直耍无聊、毫无新意的把戏，典型的还不戴着小丑鞋为了更快一些。 这些人都见鬼去吧，地狱都不够热。",0 3615,dzctdnz,"From the article: \>One of the country’s biggest hospitals has unveiled sweeping plans to use artificial intelligence to carry out tasks traditionally performed by doctors and nurses, from diagnosing cancer on CT scans to deciding which A&E patients are seen first. Doctors are traditionally the ones who diagnose things from CT scans, and triage is normally done by nurses. I don't understand what part of the headline you object to.","From the article: gt;One of the countrys biggest hospitals has unveiled sweeping plans to use artificial intelligence to carry out tasks traditionally performed by doctors and nurses, from diagnosing cancer on CT scans to deciding which Aamp;E patients are seen first. Doctors are traditionally the ones who diagnose things from CT scans, and triage is normally done by nurses. I don't understand what part of the headline you object to.","根据这篇文章： \> 这个国家最大的医院之一宣布了广泛的计划，使用人工智能来执行传统上由医生和护士执行的任务，从CT扫描诊断癌症到决定哪些急诊室病人先看。 传统上医生负责从CT扫描中诊断问题，分诊通常由护士执行。我不明白你对标题的哪部分有异议。",1 1224,dzdr4a7,"Dude automation is coming and its not just cashiers. A shit load of roles you don't expect are going to dissappear. Cashiers will go, whole logisitics teams will go. https://www.theverge.com/2018/5/8/17332070/google-assistant-makes-phone-call-demo-duplex-io-2018 Call center workers will go. IT support teams will shrink to 1/2 tops as most IT support will be handled by a helpful ""assistant"" program. Document controllers will go thanks to machine learning. Lawyers will lose their job, who do you want, the AI lawyer who can consult every case in history in a split second or Jonny Smart Balls who bills you for 10 hours of out of court prep time. Doctors won't lose their job, but they'll be heavily assisted by AI capable of comparing millions of ailments/rashes /symptoms in a second. Taxi drivers, the second self driving taxis are available they'll start losing jobs. Lets face it, if you could, for the same price have a self driving car take you somewhere, you'd prefer to be alone right. Lorry drivers, they won't immediately be replaced, but they'll be augmented with auto pilot, then they'll be replaced. http://fortune.com/2017/11/29/robots-automation-replace-jobs-mckinsey-report-800-million/ Its funny because a lot of people seem to think its just going to be other peoples jobs and low paid work, when in fact there is more incentive to replace high paid jobs. ","Dude automation is coming and its not just cashiers. A shit load of roles you don't expect are going to dissappear. Cashiers will go, whole logisitics teams will go. https:www.theverge.com20185817332070google-assistant-makes-phone-call-demo-duplex-io-2018 Call center workers will go. IT support teams will shrink to 12 tops as most IT support will be handled by a helpful ""assistant"" program. Document controllers will go thanks to machine learning. Lawyers will lose their job, who do you want, the AI lawyer who can consult every case in history in a split second or Jonny Smart Balls who bills you for 10 hours of out of court prep time. Doctors won't lose their job, but they'll be heavily assisted by AI capable of comparing millions of ailmentsrashes symptoms in a second. Taxi drivers, the second self driving taxis are available they'll start losing jobs. Lets face it, if you could, for the same price have a self driving car take you somewhere, you'd prefer to be alone right. Lorry drivers, they won't immediately be replaced, but they'll be augmented with auto pilot, then they'll be replaced. http:fortune.com20171129robots-automation-replace-jobs-mckinsey-report-800-million Its funny because a lot of people seem to think its just going to be other peoples jobs and low paid work, when in fact there is more incentive to replace high paid jobs.","兄弟，自动化即将到来，不仅仅是收银员。你意想不到的许多角色都将消失。收银员将离去，整个后勤团队也将离去。 呼叫中心工作人员也会被淘汰。 IT支持团队将缩减一半，因为大多数IT支持将由一个称职的“助手”程序处理。 由于机器学习，文件管理员将离职。 律师将失去工作，你想要什么，AI律师可以在瞬间咨询历史上的每个案例，还是Jonny Smart Balls会向你收费10个小时的庭外准备时间。 医生不会失去工作，但他们将受到能够在一秒钟内比较成百上千种疾病/疹子/症状的AI的大力协助。 出租车司机，一旦有自动驾驶出租车可用，他们将开始失业。面对现实吧，如果你花同样的钱，可以让一部自动驾驶汽车带你去某个地方，你宁愿独自一人对吧。 卡车司机，他们不会立刻被取代，但他们将被自动驾驶辅助，然后被取代。 有趣的是，很多人似乎认为只会是别人的工作和低薪工作，事实上更有动机取代高薪工作。",1 841,dzeh7gf,"I've been on TRT for 7 years and I will tell you that you want to skip the creams. They are very hard to dial in, always risk passing it along, and ultimately end up not working and you end up on injections anyway. * Word of advice, 3 pieces actually\- 1\) if injections are approved, DO NOT let them start you at 200mg weekly. This is the default dose that doctors with no hormone education tend to do. Start low and work up as this will keep sides and variables limited, making it easier to dial in 2\)Also, do not allow them to load you up on HCG and an AI up front. There stands a good chance you may not need it if you can dial in your protocol with the lowest amount necessary to address your symptoms. 3\) Never chase numbers, fix your issues. There is no magic number, what others may feel good at may feel horrible to you. ","I've been on TRT for 7 years and I will tell you that you want to skip the creams. They are very hard to dial in, always risk passing it along, and ultimately end up not working and you end up on injections anyway. Word of advice, 3 pieces actually- 1) if injections are approved, DO NOT let them start you at 200mg weekly. This is the default dose that doctors with no hormone education tend to do. Start low and work up as this will keep sides and variables limited, making it easier to dial in 2)Also, do not allow them to load you up on HCG and an AI up front. There stands a good chance you may not need it if you can dial in your protocol with the lowest amount necessary to address your symptoms. 3) Never chase numbers, fix your issues. There is no magic number, what others may feel good at may feel horrible to you.","我已经接受TRT治疗7年了，我要告诉你，你最好不要用药膏。调整剂量非常困难，总是有风险传染给别人，最终可能没有效果，最后还是要改用注射。 *一些建议，总共3点- 1\)如果注射被批准，请不要让医生从每周200毫克的剂量开始。这是没有激素教育背景的医生们倾向于使用的默认剂量。从低剂量开始，逐渐增加，这样可以减少副作用和变量，使调整剂量更容易。2\)另外，不要让他们一开始就给你使用HCG和AI。如果你可以用最低的剂量调整方案来缓解你的症状，那么你很可能不需要它。3\)不要盲目追求数字，解决你的问题才是最重要的。没有什么魔法数字，别人觉得好的可能对你来说感觉很糟糕。",0 4524,dzezocv,"Install these updated drivers: * [Intel Extreme Tuning Utility](https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/24075/Intel-Extreme-Tuning-Utility-Intel-XTU-) * [MSI Afterburner](https://www.msi.com/page/afterburner) * [Intel LAN](https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/25016/Intel-Network-Adapter-Driver-for-Windows-10?product=36773) Uninstall or update this software: * [NetBalancer](http://seriousbit.com/netbalancer/) - it's using an older driver from 2013, and network related drivers/interference commonly cause issues on Windows 10 * Asus Smart Doctor, or otherwise their whole ""AI Suite"" - using [this driver](http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=IOMap64.sys) Then, something has put [this driver](http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=inpoutx64.sys) on your system, and it dates to 2008. Not sure what you'd have to uninstall to get rid of it. Could be manually removed, but might cause failure of something... Then, for some reason you have running this [Intel Watchdog Timer](http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=ICCWDT.sys) driver from 2015. Can't really figure out why it ends up on systems, not on mine though...","Install these updated drivers: Intel Extreme Tuning Utility(https:downloadcenter.intel.comdownload24075Intel-Extreme-Tuning-Utility-Intel-XTU-) MSI Afterburner(https:www.msi.compageafterburner) Intel LAN(https:downloadcenter.intel.comdownload25016Intel-Network-Adapter-Driver-for-Windows-10?product36773) Uninstall or update this software: NetBalancer(http:seriousbit.comnetbalancer) - it's using an older driver from 2013, and network related driversinterference commonly cause issues on Windows 10 Asus Smart Doctor, or otherwise their whole ""AI Suite"" - using this driver(http:www.carrona.orgdriversdriver.php?idIOMap64.sys) Then, something has put this driver(http:www.carrona.orgdriversdriver.php?idinpoutx64.sys) on your system, and it dates to 2008. Not sure what you'd have to uninstall to get rid of it. Could be manually removed, but might cause failure of something... Then, for some reason you have running this Intel Watchdog Timer(http:www.carrona.orgdriversdriver.php?idICCWDT.sys) driver from 2015. Can't really figure out why it ends up on systems, not on mine though...","安装这些更新驱动程序： * [英特尔极限调节实用程序](https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/24075/Intel-Extreme-Tuning-Utility-Intel-XTU-) * [微星超频神器](https://www.msi.com/page/afterburner) * [英特尔LAN](https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/25016/Intel-Network-Adapter-Driver-for-Windows-10?product=36773) 卸载或更新这些软件： * [NetBalancer](http://seriousbit.com/netbalancer/) - 使用的是2013年的旧驱动程序，与Windows 10上的网络驱动程序/干扰通常引起问题 * 华硕智能医生，或者他们的整个“AI套件” - 使用[这个驱动程序](http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=IOMap64.sys) 然后，系统中有 [这个驱动程序](http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=inpoutx64.sys)，日期是2008年。不确定您需要卸载哪个软件才能摆脱它。可能需要手动删除，但可能导致某些故障... 然后，出于某种原因，您的系统上正在运行这个 [英特尔看门狗计时器](http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=ICCWDT.sys) 来自2015年的驱动程序。真的搞不清楚为什么它会出现在系统上，我的系统上没有...",0 1229,dzh0v3a,"In theory, it would work. I'm a med student and when I was using finasteride and began experiencing sides, I considered hopping on an AI. When talking to my doctor he laughed and said ""this is why med students are some of the most dangerous people on this planet. Theory tells you one thing, practice and a real understanding of your endocrine system will show you why you're crazy"" He then gave me a mini refresher on some concepts that I actually had learned in school but long story short, you're really fucking with your hormones at that point and we don't know what the damage could be that occurs over a long period of time. However, if all you care about is having your hair, Fin + AI should help a lot with sides. ","In theory, it would work. I'm a med student and when I was using finasteride and began experiencing sides, I considered hopping on an AI. When talking to my doctor he laughed and said ""this is why med students are some of the most dangerous people on this planet. Theory tells you one thing, practice and a real understanding of your endocrine system will show you why you're crazy"" He then gave me a mini refresher on some concepts that I actually had learned in school but long story short, you're really fucking with your hormones at that point and we don't know what the damage could be that occurs over a long period of time. However, if all you care about is having your hair, Fin AI should help a lot with sides.","理论上，这个方法是可行的。我是一个医学生，当我使用非那雄胺时开始出现副作用，我考虑过服用AI。和医生交谈时，他笑着说：“这就是为什么医学生在这个星球上是最危险的人之一。理论告诉你一件事，实践和对内分泌系统的真正理解会告诉你为什么你是疯狂的。”然后他给了我一些我在学校学过的概念的小复习，但长话短说，这个时候你真的在玩弄你的激素，我们不知道长期的损害可能会是什么。 不过，如果你只关心你的头发，非那雄胺加AI应该会很大程度上帮助减轻副作用。",0 3663,dzjdiay,"It can vary person to person. Some can get by 75mg once a week. 100mg is the most common adequate level, but good luck convincing some doctors of that. Me? I was perfect at 75mg test cyp e3.5d for 150mg per week. Until a doctor fucked it up and decided I should only get 100mg test cyp once every four weeks. Despite the fact that my bloods were perfect. Crashed my shit in a hurry. When bloods showed that, he hit me with 200mg all at once, no AI, nothing else for four weeks. That’s when I ordered my own ugl test and decided I couldn’t rely on normal docs. I’m still trying to find a specialist who knows his asshole from his elbow. I’m also looking into “concierge medicine” as an expensive but effective alternative. One other thing. If a doctor gives you the cop out of “I’d prescribe more, but your insurance will only cover *X* amount,” hit him with “OK, so Rx what they’ll cover and Rx the difference; I’ll pay out of pocket for medicine I need that they won’t cover.” Test cyp is cheap at big pharmacies. See if he’s full of shit and just trying to pass off blame onto someone not in the room. ","It can vary person to person. Some can get by 75mg once a week. 100mg is the most common adequate level, but good luck convincing some doctors of that. Me? I was perfect at 75mg test cyp e3.5d for 150mg per week. Until a doctor fucked it up and decided I should only get 100mg test cyp once every four weeks. Despite the fact that my bloods were perfect. Crashed my shit in a hurry. When bloods showed that, he hit me with 200mg all at once, no AI, nothing else for four weeks. Thats when I ordered my own ugl test and decided I couldnt rely on normal docs. Im still trying to find a specialist who knows his asshole from his elbow. Im also looking into concierge medicine as an expensive but effective alternative. One other thing. If a doctor gives you the cop out of Id prescribe more, but your insurance will only cover X amount, hit him with OK, so Rx what theyll cover and Rx the difference; Ill pay out of pocket for medicine I need that they wont cover. Test cyp is cheap at big pharmacies. See if hes full of shit and just trying to pass off blame onto someone not in the room.","这完全取决于个人。有些人可以每周一次吃75毫克。100毫克是最常见的适当水平，但要说服一些医生就没那么容易了。我呢？我每隔3.5天注射75毫克睾酮酸环己酯，一周150毫克，效果非常理想。直到有个医生搞乱了一切，决定我只能每四个星期注射100毫克，尽管我的血液检查都是完美的。结果我的生理指标完全崩溃了。当血液检查结果出来后，他一次给我注射了200毫克，没有用人工智能，也没有其他药物，然后让我等四个星期。那时，我就开始自己购买地下实验室的睾酮测试剂，决定不能再依赖一般的医生。我还在努力寻找一个真正懂得这方面知识的专家。 我也在考虑“专属医疗”，虽然昂贵，但很有效。 还有一件事。如果医生找借口说“我本来可以开更多，但你的保险只能支付*X*的金额”，你可以回应“好的，那就给我开*X*的药，剩下的我自己掏钱购买我需要的药物。”在大型药店，睾酮酸环己酯非常便宜。看看他是不是在推卸责任吧。",0 3127,dzjvjvb,"It's not even becoming a reality, it has been a reality for some time now. I work for the single payer health care system in Finland and we've had a partnership with IBM that's focused on using IBM's Watson AI to do image-analysis for diagnostics as well as monitoring/predicting the health of prematurely born babies. Diagnostic tools are obviously just the first step, but machine learning systems will become commonplace in the coming decade, just because they're faster and the error rate is on par or even below that of actual doctors.","It's not even becoming a reality, it has been a reality for some time now. I work for the single payer health care system in Finland and we've had a partnership with IBM that's focused on using IBM's Watson AI to do image-analysis for diagnostics as well as monitoringpredicting the health of prematurely born babies. Diagnostic tools are obviously just the first step, but machine learning systems will become commonplace in the coming decade, just because they're faster and the error rate is on par or even below that of actual doctors.","这个不只是在变成现实，而是已经成了现实一段时间了。我在芬兰的单一支付者医疗系统工作，我们和IBM合作，主要是利用IBM的沃森人工智能来进行图像分析，用于诊断以及监测/预测早产儿的健康情况。 诊断工具显然只是第一步，但机器学习系统将在未来十年变得十分普遍，因为它们更快，并且错误率与实际医生的相当甚至更低。",1 129,dzkeguk,"I was speaking about the specific case where AI scans and analyzes cases 1\) extremely faster than humans and 2\) with a lot more precision since it accesses all the research papers published \(I'm oversimplifying here\). The results would be presented to the doctor, not replace the doctor in the full treatment. A good case of this is Google's AI being used to detect sugar levels on the eyes and they found out they could find out about the heart health, age, gender, body fat, etc all through a simple picture of one's eyes. So more for detection rather than treatment. Replacing doctors can be replacing radiologists for now.","I was speaking about the specific case where AI scans and analyzes cases 1) extremely faster than humans and 2) with a lot more precision since it accesses all the research papers published (I'm oversimplifying here). The results would be presented to the doctor, not replace the doctor in the full treatment. A good case of this is Google's AI being used to detect sugar levels on the eyes and they found out they could find out about the heart health, age, gender, body fat, etc all through a simple picture of one's eyes. So more for detection rather than treatment. Replacing doctors can be replacing radiologists for now.","我在讨论的是一种特殊情况，即人工智能比人类扫描和分析案例快得多，并且更加精确，因为它可以获取所有已发表的研究论文（我这里有点简化了）。结果会呈现给医生，而不是完全取代医生的治疗。一个很好的例子就是谷歌的人工智能用于检测眼睛中的血糖水平，他们发现可以通过一个人眼睛的简单照片来了解心脏健康、年龄、性别、体脂等等。所以，更多的是用于检测而不是治疗。 目前，可以用来替代医生的是放射科医生。",1 2110,dzoiznn,"Medical AI. I believe we can drive medical innovation with more data and apply AI's pattern recognition. Convince enough people to wear medical monitors, supply them with blood-glucose monitors, activity monitor and some easy way to log their nutrient intakes. Lots and lots of data. And like Google Photo Album churn through the data to recognize ""healthy"", ""flu"", ""diabetes"", ""cancer"", whatever. Then instead of hauling yourself into a doctor's office with a vague description of symptoms and a few spot check vital signs for a diagnosis you'd strap on some medical monitors for a few hours then upload the data. Ideally you'd have weeks or months of healthy medical data to control for abnormal vital signs. Trained on a vast dataset and reams of studies a medical AI aught to get very close, very quickly with its diagnosis or at least a really good idea for a follow-up test. Don't be shy to suggest other medical datasets. MRI, x-rays, biopsies, photos, DNA sequence, family histories, urine/stool samples, blood work. Really, the bigger the dataset the better the odds to getting an accurate diagnosis quickly.","Medical AI. I believe we can drive medical innovation with more data and apply AI's pattern recognition. Convince enough people to wear medical monitors, supply them with blood-glucose monitors, activity monitor and some easy way to log their nutrient intakes. Lots and lots of data. And like Google Photo Album churn through the data to recognize ""healthy"", ""flu"", ""diabetes"", ""cancer"", whatever. Then instead of hauling yourself into a doctor's office with a vague description of symptoms and a few spot check vital signs for a diagnosis you'd strap on some medical monitors for a few hours then upload the data. Ideally you'd have weeks or months of healthy medical data to control for abnormal vital signs. Trained on a vast dataset and reams of studies a medical AI aught to get very close, very quickly with its diagnosis or at least a really good idea for a follow-up test. Don't be shy to suggest other medical datasets. MRI, x-rays, biopsies, photos, DNA sequence, family histories, urinestool samples, blood work. Really, the bigger the dataset the better the odds to getting an accurate diagnosis quickly.","医疗人工智能。我相信我们可以借助更多的数据推动医疗创新，并应用人工智能的模式识别。说服足够多的人佩戴医疗监测器，并提供他们血糖监测仪、活动监测器以及一种简单的记录营养摄入的方法。大量的数据。就像谷歌相册那样通过数据识别“健康”、“流感”、“糖尿病”、“癌症”，以及其他疾病。 然后，不是带着模糊的症状描述和几个临时检查生命体征去医生诊所，而是佩戴一些医疗监测器几个小时，然后上传数据。理想情况下，您会有几周或几个月的健康医疗数据来控制异常生命体征。在广泛数据集和大量研究的基础上训练，医疗人工智能应该能够快速地进行诊断，或者至少对随后的检测提出一个很好的建议。 不要害羞，提出其他医疗数据集。核磁共振、X光、活检、照片、DNA序列、家族病史、尿液/大便样本、血液检验。真的，数据集越大，快速获得准确诊断的几率就越高。",1 1460,dzq9dz8,"AI is a tool used by doctors. Do you see yourself who will help people by programming AI or using AI as a doctor? Where do you see yourself being most proud of your future accomplishments? If I were you, I would shoot for an education in both. ","AI is a tool used by doctors. Do you see yourself who will help people by programming AI or using AI as a doctor? Where do you see yourself being most proud of your future accomplishments? If I were you, I would shoot for an education in both.",AI是医生们使用的工具。你认为自己会通过编程AI或者作为医生使用AI来帮助人们吗？你认为自己将在哪方面最为自豪地取得成就？如果我是你，我会努力在这两方面都接受教育。,1 1872,dztxj65,"Very interesting article\- some questions come to mind: Who will be liable for any incorrect diagnoses? Aren't *definitive* diagnoses made after biopsy? What's the state of current AI in evaluating biopsies? Sometime in the near future I can imagine patients coming to their doctor with results from an app on their iPhone: ""My app says I have melanoma\- what do you think?"" followed by a physician doing a biopsy and then following up with definitive diagnosis and treatment plan. Maybe that doctor would be a dermatologist, maybe a family practitioner... Still a med student so my experience with real\-world practice is limited, but it's an interesting topic. ","Very interesting article- some questions come to mind: Who will be liable for any incorrect diagnoses? Aren't definitive diagnoses made after biopsy? What's the state of current AI in evaluating biopsies? Sometime in the near future I can imagine patients coming to their doctor with results from an app on their iPhone: ""My app says I have melanoma- what do you think?"" followed by a physician doing a biopsy and then following up with definitive diagnosis and treatment plan. Maybe that doctor would be a dermatologist, maybe a family practitioner... Still a med student so my experience with real-world practice is limited, but it's an interesting topic.","这篇文章很有趣，引发了一些问题： 谁会对任何错误的诊断负责？ *明确*的诊断不是通过活检后才能确定的吗？目前人工智能在评估活检方面的情况如何？ 在不久的将来，我可以想象病人带着他们iPhone上的某个应用的结果去找医生：“我的应用说我患有黑色素瘤，你觉得呢？”然后医生会进行活检，然后进行最终的诊断和治疗计划。也许医生会是皮肤科医生，也许是全科医生……我还是个医学生，对实际临床实践的经验有限，但这是一个有趣的话题。",1 4609,dzu53kc,"What is the difference between a doctor and a nurse? An extensive knowledge of medicine and illnesses. This difference is not any of physical duties nor of social interaction, more commonly nurses perform most physical duties and social interaction with patients. As such my statement stands due to an AI being vastly better than a human at simply checking data against a large set of possible element for matches.","What is the difference between a doctor and a nurse? An extensive knowledge of medicine and illnesses. This difference is not any of physical duties nor of social interaction, more commonly nurses perform most physical duties and social interaction with patients. As such my statement stands due to an AI being vastly better than a human at simply checking data against a large set of possible element for matches.",医生和护士有什么不同？就是医学和疾病方面的知识。不是指体力活或者社交互动方面的区别，一般来说护士会负责大部分的体力劳动和与病人的社交互动。所以，我说AI在简单地检查数据匹配方面远远优于人类是有道理的，因为它可以对大量可能的元素进行比对。,1 2823,dzv27t6,"Nah, I'm just enduring the high E2 and it's symptoms for the time being. Me and my specialist are lowering my HCG to try and combat E2 that way for now. Next bloodwork in a few weeks will show how effective that is. Luckily my doctor is really understanding and I'm sure we'll sort it out eventually. But one thing's for sure: AI's make me feel like ass. ","Nah, I'm just enduring the high E2 and it's symptoms for the time being. Me and my specialist are lowering my HCG to try and combat E2 that way for now. Next bloodwork in a few weeks will show how effective that is. Luckily my doctor is really understanding and I'm sure we'll sort it out eventually. But one thing's for sure: AI's make me feel like ass.","哎呀，我只是暂时忍受着高E2及其症状。我和专家一起降低HCG来试图对抗E2。几周后的下次血液检查会显示这种方法的有效性。幸运的是，我的医生非常理解，我相信我们最终会解决问题。 但有一件事是肯定的：AI让我感觉糟透了。",0 1429,dzwawm8,That just goes to show how artificial intelligence is far outpassing human intelligence. It's awesome what these machines can do. Imagine not needing real doctors in future. Or not having diseases at all. It may not be that far along. ,That just goes to show how artificial intelligence is far outpassing human intelligence. It's awesome what these machines can do. Imagine not needing real doctors in future. Or not having diseases at all. It may not be that far along.,这正显示出人工智能远远超越了人类智能。这些机器能做的真是太棒了。想象一下未来不需要真正的医生。甚至不再有疾病。或许这一天并不会太遥远。,1 4825,dzxi4so,"FTA, >""In scenarios where the traditional technology disappears and robots take over the automatable sector, the economy either ascends to a virtuous circle of ongoing endogenous growth or descends into a death spiral of perpetual contraction,"" the IMF report said. > >""Unfortunately, the odds strongly favour the death spiral."" The expanse deals with this by having billions of people collecting basic income. It doesn't seem like a great future on earth. > We're adaptable, we're not ****ing horses and AI is overhyped by people who don't understand it or are incentivised to hype it. Horses had a single job and were replaced by a single new technology. I was in a lecture by an Anesthesiologist who was talking about the potential of AI and focused on some of the same points of the ""Humans need not apply"" video. Towards the end of his talk he showed an operating theater and all the different machines he has to deal with during an operation. His claim was because of the way the theater was set up he wouldn't have to worry about his job being automated, no machine could make the complex movements he does daily. I talked with others after the talk to see if they were as unconvinced as I was, they were. In the end most of what he does is follow protocols which can be programmed. The design set up of the theater doesn't have the be the way it is currently the complex movement can be designed away. This might not happen in 5 years time but in 20? What should a highly qualified Anesthesiologist do after the majority of their labour is no longer required? Do they go an retrain for another job, what job? Sure we aren't horses but algorithms aren't engines. ","FTA, gt;""In scenarios where the traditional technology disappears and robots take over the automatable sector, the economy either ascends to a virtuous circle of ongoing endogenous growth or descends into a death spiral of perpetual contraction,"" the IMF report said. gt; gt;""Unfortunately, the odds strongly favour the death spiral."" The expanse deals with this by having billions of people collecting basic income. It doesn't seem like a great future on earth. gt; We're adaptable, we're not ing horses and AI is overhyped by people who don't understand it or are incentivised to hype it. Horses had a single job and were replaced by a single new technology. I was in a lecture by an Anesthesiologist who was talking about the potential of AI and focused on some of the same points of the ""Humans need not apply"" video. Towards the end of his talk he showed an operating theater and all the different machines he has to deal with during an operation. His claim was because of the way the theater was set up he wouldn't have to worry about his job being automated, no machine could make the complex movements he does daily. I talked with others after the talk to see if they were as unconvinced as I was, they were. In the end most of what he does is follow protocols which can be programmed. The design set up of the theater doesn't have the be the way it is currently the complex movement can be designed away. This might not happen in 5 years time but in 20? What should a highly qualified Anesthesiologist do after the majority of their labour is no longer required? Do they go an retrain for another job, what job? Sure we aren't horses but algorithms aren't engines.","自由贸易协定 在传统技术消失而机器人接管可自动化领域的情况下，国际货币基金组织的报告称，经济要么进入持续内生增长的良性循环，要么陷入永久收缩的垂死螺旋。“不幸的是，情况非常有利于后者。” 这个情境被使用这样的方式来解决，数十亿人领取基本收入。在地球上这似乎不是一个美好的未来。 我们有适应能力，我们可不是该死的马，人工智能被一些不了解它或有动机夸大其能力的人夸大了。 马只有一个工作，被一种新技术取代。 我曾参加过一位麻醉学家的演讲，他谈论了人工智能的潜力，并关注了“人类无需申请”的视频中的一些观点。在他的演讲结束时，他展示了一个手术室，以及他在手术中必须处理的所有不同的机器。他声称，由于手术室的设计，他不必担心自己的工作被自动化，没有任何机器可以完成他每天所做的复杂动作。我和其他人在演讲后交谈，看看他们是否和我一样不相信，结果他们也是。最终，他所做的大部分工作都是遵循可能被程序化的协议。手术室的设计设置不一定是目前的复杂动作可以被设计掉。这可能不会在5年内发生，但20年之后呢？ 一个高素质的麻醉学家在他们的大部分劳动力不再需要之后，该做些什么？他们是否要重新接受培训去做其他工作？那是什么工作呢？ 当然我们不是马，但算法也不是发动机。",1 4740,dzyu1z0,"AI Beats Dermatologists in Diagnosing Nail Fungus [https://spectrum.ieee.org/the\-human\-os/robotics/artificial\-intelligence/ai\-beats\-dermatologists\-in\-diagnosing\-nail\-fungus](https://spectrum.ieee.org/the-human-os/robotics/artificial-intelligence/ai-beats-dermatologists-in-diagnosing-nail-fungus)",AI Beats Dermatologists in Diagnosing Nail Fungus https:spectrum.ieee.orgthe-human-osroboticsartificial-intelligenceai-beats-dermatologists-in-diagnosing-nail-fungus(https:spectrum.ieee.orgthe-human-osroboticsartificial-intelligenceai-beats-dermatologists-in-diagnosing-nail-fungus),AI打败皮肤科医生，更准确诊断指甲真菌感染。,1 3327,e000j0z,"I think a lot of people are afraid of AI just doing the most efficient thing, which could result in it doing sexist or racist things in order to get the optimal outcome or something similar. Which is a valid concern if AI has full control over everything. However, we're a long ways off from that. Currently AI is simply a tool. Instead of having a doctor diagnose a patient based on the 100 similar cases they've seen, you have an AI diagnose them based on the 200,000 cases they've seen. Then the doctor takes a look at the recommended diagnosis and decides if it seems reasonable or not.","I think a lot of people are afraid of AI just doing the most efficient thing, which could result in it doing sexist or racist things in order to get the optimal outcome or something similar. Which is a valid concern if AI has full control over everything. However, we're a long ways off from that. Currently AI is simply a tool. Instead of having a doctor diagnose a patient based on the 100 similar cases they've seen, you have an AI diagnose them based on the 200,000 cases they've seen. Then the doctor takes a look at the recommended diagnosis and decides if it seems reasonable or not.","我觉得很多人害怕人工智能只会做最有效率的事情，这可能导致它做出性别歧视或种族歧视的行为，以达到最佳结果或者类似的情况。这是一个合理的担忧，如果人工智能完全控制一切的话。 但是，我们还有很长的路要走。目前人工智能只是一种工具。与其让医生基于他们见过的100个类似病例来诊断病人，不如让人工智能基于它见过的20万个病例来诊断。然后医生再看一下推荐的诊断，决定它是否合理。",1 4346,e00ajrh,"/tg/ sybil with ~20 players and no admemes >Be CE >tatortot.jpg >AI: “CE you are the acting captain” >yakety sax my way into caps office >Grab everything that isn’t nailed down >Check objectives >“Nuke disk and plutonium core” >Subvert AI with tatortot board >grab plutonium core Missionaccomplished.tar Round time: 5:05 >QM wants the spare for a cargo bounty >Give him the spare and emag the console for good measure >no sec don’t care >next 25 minutes are uneventful >QM calls me to cargo because he’s got some cool shit A WILD ATHENA HUNT APPEARS! IT USES STUN PROD ITS SUPER EFFECTIVE >cuff’nstrip.swf Me in binary: KILL THEM ALL AI NO SURVIVORS I DONT CARE IF YOU KILL ME It’s all good. Emag is in a storage implant QM: He’s got the nuke disk Me: I’m the acting captain >Athena hits me with a medical scanner That bitch: I TOLD YOU HES A TRAITOR >drags me to sec >borg grabs me and drags me to dorms >some fucker blows the borg >missing an arm and a leg >hobble my way to medbay nakedandafraid.mp4 >Kind doctor throws me into a sleeper and heals me A WILD ATHENA APPEARS IT USES MORPHINE ITS NOT VERRY EFFECTIVE (yet) >doctor drags me into recovery room >Athena follows CE USES DISARM ATHENA IS KNOCKED DOWN >take the stun prod and whack her ass >doctor drags me away Yakety Sax 2, The Saxxening >morphine coming in hard >pass out in main hallway *5 minutes later* >wake up in a locker at arrivals wut.png >Still naked and missing an arm and a leg 4 minutes until shuttle >hobble to a fire locker and gear up >now hobbling to evac 2 minutes until shuttle OH LOOK ITS ATHENA *Unknown disarms Athena* *Unknown bashes Athena in the head with the air tank* x10 >Athena is kill >Strip and clothe up >Put Athena’s ID on Shuttle arrives >Shitty QM has my ID and bag >go to shuttle door QM: Is that really you Athena? Say something. Me: *waves at mouth* QM: Oh ok >let’s me onto the shuttle bridge Thatworked.txt >shuttle launches >use shuttle stun to bash a guy’s head in >he has a gun >QM runs off with my fukken shit >Bash the other guy’s head in I love this fucking air tank >get in a shoot out with QM >alternating between shooting out the door and charging my gun >check Athena’s bag OhshitaRCD.gif >wall myself into the bridge Didn’t green text but still satisfying to win as a 1 armed and 1 legged tatortot. At some point after I told it to, the AI started siphoning air and door crushing people. Good shit. ","tg sybil with 20 players and no admemes gt;Be CE gt;tatortot.jpg gt;AI: CE you are the acting captain gt;yakety sax my way into caps office gt;Grab everything that isnt nailed down gt;Check objectives gt;Nuke disk and plutonium core gt;Subvert AI with tatortot board gt;grab plutonium core Missionaccomplished.tar Round time: 5:05 gt;QM wants the spare for a cargo bounty gt;Give him the spare and emag the console for good measure gt;no sec dont care gt;next 25 minutes are uneventful gt;QM calls me to cargo because hes got some cool shit A WILD ATHENA HUNT APPEARS! IT USES STUN PROD ITS SUPER EFFECTIVE gt;cuffnstrip.swf Me in binary: KILL THEM ALL AI NO SURVIVORS I DONT CARE IF YOU KILL ME Its all good. Emag is in a storage implant QM: Hes got the nuke disk Me: Im the acting captain gt;Athena hits me with a medical scanner That bitch: I TOLD YOU HES A TRAITOR gt;drags me to sec gt;borg grabs me and drags me to dorms gt;some fucker blows the borg gt;missing an arm and a leg gt;hobble my way to medbay nakedandafraid.mp4 gt;Kind doctor throws me into a sleeper and heals me A WILD ATHENA APPEARS IT USES MORPHINE ITS NOT VERRY EFFECTIVE (yet) gt;doctor drags me into recovery room gt;Athena follows CE USES DISARM ATHENA IS KNOCKED DOWN gt;take the stun prod and whack her ass gt;doctor drags me away Yakety Sax 2, The Saxxening gt;morphine coming in hard gt;pass out in main hallway 5 minutes later gt;wake up in a locker at arrivals wut.png gt;Still naked and missing an arm and a leg 4 minutes until shuttle gt;hobble to a fire locker and gear up gt;now hobbling to evac 2 minutes until shuttle OH LOOK ITS ATHENA Unknown disarms Athena Unknown bashes Athena in the head with the air tank x10 gt;Athena is kill gt;Strip and clothe up gt;Put Athenas ID on Shuttle arrives gt;Shitty QM has my ID and bag gt;go to shuttle door QM: Is that really you Athena? Say something. Me: waves at mouth QM: Oh ok gt;lets me onto the shuttle bridge Thatworked.txt gt;shuttle launches gt;use shuttle stun to bash a guys head in gt;he has a gun gt;QM runs off with my fukken shit gt;Bash the other guys head in I love this fucking air tank gt;get in a shoot out with QM gt;alternating between shooting out the door and charging my gun gt;check Athenas bag OhshitaRCD.gif gt;wall myself into the bridge Didnt green text but still satisfying to win as a 1 armed and 1 legged tatortot. At some point after I told it to, the AI started siphoning air and door crushing people. Good shit.","在服务器Sybil上有大约20名玩家，没有管理员。 > 我是CE（职位） > AI（人工智能）：“CE，你是代理船长” > 我飞快地朝船长办公室走去 > 抓住所有能拿的东西 > 检查目标 > “核弹片和钚芯” > 用tatortot板颠覆AI > 抓住钚芯 任务完成 游戏时间：5:05 > QM（船务主管）想要备用舱 > 给他备用舱，然后用电磁干扰器干掉控制台 > 没有安保在乎 > 接下来的25分钟都很平淡 > QM叫我去货舱，因为他找到了一些酷炫的东西 雅典娜突然出现！ 用击晕棒 非常有效 > 拷问并脱光 > 用二进制说：AI杀光他们，没有幸存者，我不在乎你杀了我 一切都好。电磁干扰器在一个存储植入物里 QM：他拿到了核弹片 我：我是代理船长 > 雅典娜用医疗扫描器击中我 那个婊子：告诉你他是叛徒 > 拉我去安保 > 机器人抓住我，然后把我拖到宿舍 > 有人炸了机器人 > 缺了一只手和一条腿 > 蹒跚着去医务室 赤裸且害怕 > 善良的医生把我放到催眠盒里治好了我 雅典娜再次出现 用吗啡 效果不是很好（但很快会有效） > 医生把我拖到恢复室 > 雅典娜跟进 CE使用解除武装 雅典娜被击倒 > 抓起击晕棒狠狠地打她 > 医生把我拖走 续集，萨克斯的回归 > 吗啡来势汹汹 > 在主走廊晕倒 *5分钟后* > 醒来时在到达区的储物柜里 什么鬼 > 依然一丝不挂，缺了手和腿 距离船到达还有4分钟 > 蹒跚着找个消防柜装备上 > 现在蹒跚着前往疏散点 离船到达还有2分钟 哦，看那是雅典娜 *不知名的人解除雅典娜的武装* *不知名的人用气罐敲了雅典娜的头* x10 > 雅典娜被干掉了 >扒光并穿上衣服 > 戴上雅典娜的ID 船到达 > 烂货船务主管拿着我的ID和包 > 走到船门口 QM：那真的是你，雅典娜吗？说点什么。 我：*指着嘴挥手* QM：哦，好的 > 让我进入了船桥 搞定 > 船起飞 > 用船上的击晕器敲了一个家伙的脑袋 > 他有枪 > 船务主管带着我的东西跑了 > 敲了另一个家伙的脑袋 我真爱这个气罐 > 与船务主管对峙 > 交替着朝门外射击和准备枪支 > 检查雅典娜的包 天啊，RCD（现实构筑器） > 把自己困在船桥里 没有绿色的文字，但作为一个一只手一条腿的tatortot赢得了取得了满足感。在某个时刻，我告诉AI开始汲取空气并门夹压人。好极了。",0 4156,e0458ro,"Yes. It need sto change. Thats a good thing for President Trump's list. Medical School accreditation also needs to change. Doctors who want to retain a restrictive monopoly control it to medical training never advances and stays with the doctor centric model instead of the technology centric model. AI is blowing doctors out of the water in accuracy but they will make it wait 50 years to reach the USA.",Yes. It need sto change. Thats a good thing for President Trump's list. Medical School accreditation also needs to change. Doctors who want to retain a restrictive monopoly control it to medical training never advances and stays with the doctor centric model instead of the technology centric model. AI is blowing doctors out of the water in accuracy but they will make it wait 50 years to reach the USA.,"是的。 这是需要改变的。 这对特朗普总统的政策清单是件好事。 医学院的认证也需要改变。想要保持垄断控制医学培训的医生们永远不会进步，他们一直沿用医生中心的模式，而不是技术中心的模式。人工智能在准确性上已经超过了医生，但他们不会让它在美国获得认可，得等上50年。",1 1371,e059cmo,"I'm a bot, *bleep*, *bloop*. Someone has linked to this thread from another place on reddit: - [/r/amaaggregator] [AI is coming to a doctor's office near you, and AMA wants to be ready](https://www.reddit.com/r/AMAAggregator/comments/8oqduz/ai_is_coming_to_a_doctors_office_near_you_and_ama/) &nbsp;*^(If you follow any of the above links, please respect the rules of reddit and don't vote in the other threads.) ^\([Info](/r/TotesMessenger) ^/ ^[Contact](/message/compose?to=/r/TotesMessenger))*","I'm a bot, bleep, bloop. Someone has linked to this thread from another place on reddit: - ramaaggregator AI is coming to a doctor's office near you, and AMA wants to be ready(https:www.reddit.comrAMAAggregatorcomments8oqduzaiiscomingtoadoctorsofficenearyouandama) amp;nbsp;(If you follow any of the above links, please respect the rules of reddit and don't vote in the other threads.) (Info(rTotesMessenger) Contact(messagecompose?torTotesMessenger))","我是一个机器人，*滴答*，*嘟嘟*。有人在Reddit的另一个帖子中链接到了这个主题： - [/r/amaaggregator] [AI is coming to a doctor's office near you, and AMA wants to be ready](https://www.reddit.com/r/AMAAggregator/comments/8oqduz/ai_is_coming_to_a_doctors_office_near_you_and_ama/) *^(如果你点击了以上的链接，请遵守Reddit的规则，不要在其他帖子中投票。) ^\([信息](/r/TotesMessenger) ^/ ^[联系我们](/message/compose?to=/r/TotesMessenger))*",0 1274,e08ru7b,"Well the first of the 2 timed enclaves to protect I didn't realize how the timer was working and such. So I had like 6 missions all start up about the same time so I'm zooming all over the map saving people, bringing people stuff and was on the complete opposite side when I was finally selecting the mission and it had 1:27 left on it... I know I'm not gonna be able to drive to there in time. So they get wiped out, hell the people being attacked wasn't even an enclave I'd done any work for nor knew even existed so I didn't even care. I go off to do one remainging mission I had, just random save a survivor one. Well just as I'm about half way across the map they attack the 2nd enclave. The same one I had just been at 1 min ago. I whip a uturn roll up on the barn. I see their head guy Gary come running out one lady chasing pop there goes her brain matter. Another guy fires out one shot from the barn, it's dark but big red arrow of HERE I AM SHOOT ME and down he goes with 2 shots. Saved 2 out of 3 people there. Then final mission starts. Meanwhile I've been using these same 2 people for awhile now their both tired and about half their bars are gone from fatigue. So I'm driving over to the final mission right....what the *$&#*@ damn pop up warning me that it will be the end if I finish this. That's great and all (wish I'd known how that works transferring people and stuff they hold etc before so I could have set myself up better) but what wasn't great was it made me drive right over a middle of the road bloater because I lost control of my truck while it was up, so I drive it off the side of the road and jump out....right into 2 big groups and a freaking feral. I almost lost my leader right there 200 yards from the final fight because of their pop up....anyways I make it out and roll up on the building. Guys talking smack, thought for sure I'd have a big ol fight. I'm slowly checking it. As I said the AI just ran right on up. Got to the roof climbed the ladder 1 shot and GG. And of course 2 of the 3 people I wanted to take with me are....these 2 I was just using fatigue and all transferring. So that was a fun start with 2 dead tired people to work with. Used my 3rd, my doctor, to solo clear out all the houses near by though while they rested up.","Well the first of the 2 timed enclaves to protect I didn't realize how the timer was working and such. So I had like 6 missions all start up about the same time so I'm zooming all over the map saving people, bringing people stuff and was on the complete opposite side when I was finally selecting the mission and it had 1:27 left on it... I know I'm not gonna be able to drive to there in time. So they get wiped out, hell the people being attacked wasn't even an enclave I'd done any work for nor knew even existed so I didn't even care. I go off to do one remainging mission I had, just random save a survivor one. Well just as I'm about half way across the map they attack the 2nd enclave. The same one I had just been at 1 min ago. I whip a uturn roll up on the barn. I see their head guy Gary come running out one lady chasing pop there goes her brain matter. Another guy fires out one shot from the barn, it's dark but big red arrow of HERE I AM SHOOT ME and down he goes with 2 shots. Saved 2 out of 3 people there. Then final mission starts. Meanwhile I've been using these same 2 people for awhile now their both tired and about half their bars are gone from fatigue. So I'm driving over to the final mission right....what the amp; damn pop up warning me that it will be the end if I finish this. That's great and all (wish I'd known how that works transferring people and stuff they hold etc before so I could have set myself up better) but what wasn't great was it made me drive right over a middle of the road bloater because I lost control of my truck while it was up, so I drive it off the side of the road and jump out....right into 2 big groups and a freaking feral. I almost lost my leader right there 200 yards from the final fight because of their pop up....anyways I make it out and roll up on the building. Guys talking smack, thought for sure I'd have a big ol fight. I'm slowly checking it. As I said the AI just ran right on up. Got to the roof climbed the ladder 1 shot and GG. And of course 2 of the 3 people I wanted to take with me are....these 2 I was just using fatigue and all transferring. So that was a fun start with 2 dead tired people to work with. Used my 3rd, my doctor, to solo clear out all the houses near by though while they rested up.","嗯，要保护的两个限时飞地中的第一个我没意识到计时器是怎么工作的。所以我有大概6个任务都差不多同时开始，我一直在地图上到处奔波，救人，送东西，结果最后我选了任务时，还剩1分27秒...我知道我根本来不及开车去那。所以他们都被消灭了，甚至被袭击的人根本不是我有帮忙过的飞地，我甚至都不知道他们存在，所以我一点也不在乎。 然后我去做我最后一个任务，随便的救一个幸存者的任务。结果我走了大概一半的路，他们又袭击了第二个飞地。就是我刚刚1分钟前去过的那个。我迅速掉头，冲到了谷仓。我看见他们的头目盖瑞跑出来，有一个女人追着他，脑浆就飞了。另外一个人从谷仓里开了一枪，虽然天黑但是大红色的箭头就是“我在这，射我吧”，就两枪打死了他。救了3个人中的2个。然后最后一个任务开始。其实我用这两个人有一阵子了，他们都很累，都有一半的体力条耗尽了。然后我开车去最后一个任务的路上...然后一个该死的弹窗警告我说如果我完成了这个任务，游戏就结束了。真是太好了（要是我之前就知道转移人员和他们携带的东西怎么操作的话，我就能事先准备好了），但不太好的是，弹窗让我刚好开车撞上了路中间的一群溃烂者，我失控了，所以我就开车冲到了路旁，然后跳下车...结果跳下去就看见了两大群丧尸和一只该死的野兽。我差不多就在距离最后战斗200码的地方差点失去了领袖......总之我总算是挺了过来，冲到了那个建筑物。那些家伙一直在吹牛，我还以为肯定要打一场大战呢。我慢慢地搜查了一下。就像我说的，人工智能就是直接冲上来了。到了屋顶上爬上梯子，一枪就解决了。 当然我想带走的三个人中有两个...就是我刚刚用得很累的人，然后还要转移他们。所以这真是一个有趣的开始，带着两个快累趴了的人开始工作。不过幸好我用我的第三个人，我的医生，一个人去把附近的房子都清理了，这样他们就能休息了。",0 2820,e0dri18,">Remember that we don't have to hit the point where AI is perfect for doctors to lose their jobs, we just need to hit the point where AI statistically performs better than humans. There is a good reason that AI will remain a tool of doctors rather than replacing them entirely: the value of clinical judgement. The huge push to make existing doctors into algorithmic bots undermines this already. Medical professionals' ability to recognise someone who is sick, despite vital signs, blood tests and scans being normal is extraordinarily valuable. Doctors also have an intuitive insight into the art of medicine and can pick up diagnoses that no algorithm could easily spot. Anyone who has spent any time in an acute hospital setting knows there are patients that are hypochondriacs and deliberately seeking investigation and treatment. Doctors also have enormous value as face\-to\-face communicators and dispensing of advice. You can't have the same rapport with a machine that you can have with a medical professional.","gt;Remember that we don't have to hit the point where AI is perfect for doctors to lose their jobs, we just need to hit the point where AI statistically performs better than humans. There is a good reason that AI will remain a tool of doctors rather than replacing them entirely: the value of clinical judgement. The huge push to make existing doctors into algorithmic bots undermines this already. Medical professionals' ability to recognise someone who is sick, despite vital signs, blood tests and scans being normal is extraordinarily valuable. Doctors also have an intuitive insight into the art of medicine and can pick up diagnoses that no algorithm could easily spot. Anyone who has spent any time in an acute hospital setting knows there are patients that are hypochondriacs and deliberately seeking investigation and treatment. Doctors also have enormous value as face-to-face communicators and dispensing of advice. You can't have the same rapport with a machine that you can have with a medical professional.","记住，我们并不需要让人工智能完美到医生就会失业，我们只需要让人工智能在统计上表现比人类更好。 人工智能将会继续是医生的工具而不是完全取代他们的原因很充分：临床判断的价值。现在已经有很大的推动让现有的医生变成算法机器人，这已经在破坏这种价值。医学专业人员能够识别出一个病人是否患病，尽管生命体征、血液检测和扫描结果正常，这是非常宝贵的能力。 医生还具有对医学艺术的直觉洞察力，可以发现算法很难发现的诊断。任何在急诊科医院待过的人都知道，有些病人是疑病症患者，有意寻求诊断和治疗。 医生作为面对面的沟通者和提供建议者也有着巨大的价值。你无法像对待医生那样与机器建立起同样的融洽关系。",1 443,e0laxmm,"that last westworld episode said computer programs, when being able to comunicate perfectly, end up loving each other. also virtual reality might help us feel what somebody else feels and better our empathy skills for a whole new level of fair play. still i think rage is more of a chemically induced state of mind that some AI doctor will dissipate leaving us stress free without jealousy enjoying the worlds' inequality. ","that last westworld episode said computer programs, when being able to comunicate perfectly, end up loving each other. also virtual reality might help us feel what somebody else feels and better our empathy skills for a whole new level of fair play. still i think rage is more of a chemically induced state of mind that some AI doctor will dissipate leaving us stress free without jealousy enjoying the worlds' inequality.","上一集《西部世界》说电脑程序在能够完美交流时，最终会彼此相爱。 而且虚拟现实也许能帮助我们感受到他人的情感，提升我们的同理心技能，让公平竞争达到一个全新的层次。 不过我认为愤怒更多的是一种化学诱发的心态，一些人工智能医生会让我们摆脱压力，不再嫉妒，享受世界的不平等。",1 4927,e0pm3yd,"Why wouldn’t automation help both? Healthcare is going to be revolutionized by machine learning algorithms diagnosing patients. The vast majority of services could be done over the internet. Got a cold? The AI will diagnose and give you a prescription. Need to get that spot on your skin checked out? Send it a picture. Sure, emergencies would still need to be handled at hospitals, but think about how much that would free up doctors and nurses? Premanufactured housing is already a thing and can get even cheaper as robots start entering the field. ","Why wouldnt automation help both? Healthcare is going to be revolutionized by machine learning algorithms diagnosing patients. The vast majority of services could be done over the internet. Got a cold? The AI will diagnose and give you a prescription. Need to get that spot on your skin checked out? Send it a picture. Sure, emergencies would still need to be handled at hospitals, but think about how much that would free up doctors and nurses? Premanufactured housing is already a thing and can get even cheaper as robots start entering the field.","为什么自动化不能同时帮助两者呢？医疗保健将会因为机器学习算法诊断患者而实现革命。绝大多数服务都可以在互联网上完成。感冒了？人工智能会给你诊断并开处方。需要检查一下皮肤上的斑点？拍张照片发过来。当然，紧急情况仍需要在医院处理，但想象一下这将给医生和护士有多少空闲时间。 预制房屋已经是一种现实，并随着机器人进入这个领域，价格甚至可能会变得更便宜。",1 2945,e0py6yh,"> TL;DR: to answer your question yes by definition that is programming. Ok that is fair, but I think of programming as having to bang your head against the wall for a while to find a reasonable implementation. My suggestion skips this, where there is little to no thought and anyone could then be a ""programmer"" > if we can’t even create something without bugs how could we create something that creates something without bugs? AI in medicine is more accurate diagnosing patients than doctors. I don't see why this couldn't translate over to programming.","gt; TL;DR: to answer your question yes by definition that is programming. Ok that is fair, but I think of programming as having to bang your head against the wall for a while to find a reasonable implementation. My suggestion skips this, where there is little to no thought and anyone could then be a ""programmer"" gt; if we cant even create something without bugs how could we create something that creates something without bugs? AI in medicine is more accurate diagnosing patients than doctors. I don't see why this couldn't translate over to programming.","TL;DR: 回答你的问题，根据定义来说是编程。 好的，这说得也有道理，但我觉得编程就像是要花很长时间撞墙才能找到一个合理的实现方法。我的建议跳过了这一步，几乎没有任何思考，任何人都可以成为""程序员""。 如果我们连创建没有 bug 的东西都做不到，那我们怎么能创造出能够不出Bug的东西呢？ 医疗人工智能在诊断病人方面比医生更准确。我觉得这种技术完全可以应用到编程领域。",1 3261,e0syuub,"""Smart Systems"" to filter out the most important. So Yes, AI to do the preliminary scan of the sensor data, determine which are within normal range and only provide the data which is out of the ordinary. Plus deliver a preliminary diagnosis based on that data. What it will mean for most doctors is that, as long as those AI do a decent job, many doctors will just become dependent on the machine to do the majority of the work. Which may not be a bad thing just as long as they are more often correct than a human will be.","""Smart Systems"" to filter out the most important. So Yes, AI to do the preliminary scan of the sensor data, determine which are within normal range and only provide the data which is out of the ordinary. Plus deliver a preliminary diagnosis based on that data. What it will mean for most doctors is that, as long as those AI do a decent job, many doctors will just become dependent on the machine to do the majority of the work. Which may not be a bad thing just as long as they are more often correct than a human will be.","“智能系统”来过滤出最重要的信息。 所以，是的，人工智能来对传感器数据进行初步扫描，确定哪些是在正常范围内，并且只提供异常数据。另外，还会根据这些数据提供初步诊断。 对大多数医生来说，这意味着只要那些人工智能表现不错，许多医生就会变得依赖机器来完成大部分工作。只要它们的正确率比人类更高，这也许并不是一件坏事。",1 2288,e0x0sil,"The full name of AIDOC is AI Doctor (Chinese name “Tian Yi”), the world’s first AI medical chain. It is committed to building up a chain of AI super doctor, so that everyone has their own exclusive “Bay Max”! AIDOC is a pioneer in the field of distributed AI medical treatment as initiating mining project with life data.","The full name of AIDOC is AI Doctor (Chinese name Tian Yi), the worlds first AI medical chain. It is committed to building up a chain of AI super doctor, so that everyone has their own exclusive Bay Max! AIDOC is a pioneer in the field of distributed AI medical treatment as initiating mining project with life data.",AIDOC的全名是AI Doctor（中文名“天医”），是全球首家AI医疗链。它致力于建立一个AI超级医生的链条，让每个人都有自己专属的“大白”！AIDOC是分布式AI医疗领域的先驱，启动了利用生活数据进行挖矿项目。,1 3197,e0ywqs7,"I didn’t mean emotionally consoling. I was just imagining inpatient being cared by AI. I think as human we still need that human contact which physicians and medical team provide. I agree with image intensive field part",I didnt mean emotionally consoling. I was just imagining inpatient being cared by AI. I think as human we still need that human contact which physicians and medical team provide. I agree with image intensive field part,"我并不是指情感上的安慰。我只是在想象病人受到AI照顾。我觉得作为人类，我们仍然需要医生和医疗团队提供的人际接触。 我同意图像密集领域的观点。",1 4437,e13xxis,"The transition of certain industries to automated is tricky and, in the short term, can result in mass unemployment. Self driving cars - while inevitable and important for safer roads - will result in the unemployment of hundreds of thousands of people who are ""unskilled"" or ""uneducated"" because they've been driving a taxi or bus for however long. What are they supposed to do? Get re educated in another field, presumably, but not everyone is interested in intellectual career pursuits, and that's ok. Some people like driving or doing manual labor. So what happens to those people when most if not all of those types of jobs become automated? Not everyone wants to be a programmer or scientist or doctor or actor. I think that's where the concern comes from. I'm all for automation, but it has to be done properly to avoid unemployment hitting sky highs. With AI on the horizon and automation on a level we've never experienced before coming, it's not something that will just sort itself out, I don't think.","The transition of certain industries to automated is tricky and, in the short term, can result in mass unemployment. Self driving cars - while inevitable and important for safer roads - will result in the unemployment of hundreds of thousands of people who are ""unskilled"" or ""uneducated"" because they've been driving a taxi or bus for however long. What are they supposed to do? Get re educated in another field, presumably, but not everyone is interested in intellectual career pursuits, and that's ok. Some people like driving or doing manual labor. So what happens to those people when most if not all of those types of jobs become automated? Not everyone wants to be a programmer or scientist or doctor or actor. I think that's where the concern comes from. I'm all for automation, but it has to be done properly to avoid unemployment hitting sky highs. With AI on the horizon and automation on a level we've never experienced before coming, it's not something that will just sort itself out, I don't think.","某些行业向自动化转型是棘手的，短期内可能会导致大规模失业。自动驾驶汽车虽然不可避免且对于更安全的道路至关重要，但将导致数十万“无技能”或“未受过教育”的人失业，因为他们一直在开出租车或公交车。他们该怎么办呢？重新接受教育学习另一个领域，这可能是一个选择，但并不是每个人都对智力型职业感兴趣，这也没关系。有些人喜欢开车或做体力劳动。那么，当大部分甚至所有这类工作都被自动化取代时，这些人会怎么样呢？并非每个人都想成为程序员、科学家、医生或演员。 我觉得这就是担忧来源所在。我完全支持自动化，但必须适当地进行，以避免失业率飙升。随着人工智能即将到来以及前所未有的自动化水平，这并不是一件能够自行解决的事情，我认为。",0 2146,e15vwv3,"I played Horizon zero dawn and I have mixed feelings. I feel like the main arch and storyline was garbage but before you downvote me let me explain myself. The main story that was set in the current times about that HADES AI was pretty weak, the main villain was forgettable, didn't even care about him. All the characters in the sun castle or whatever that place was were also very forgettable. Literally, all the characters that were alive in the game, couldn't care about them except for that guy that was caring for Alloy in the beginning. He actually felt real, I liked that guy. And Alloy herself, she was also a great character. However, what made me fucking love this game. What immersed me so deeply is the second story told in the game. The story about that doctor woman that was Alloys mother kinda. The story of how humanity fell, died fighting. Like how all the backstory was uncovered. How we could see the destruction, what remained of humanity. This is probably the only game where I read all the data-logs like of soldiers that were writing to their families or vice-versa how they were being evacuated, etc... And then to see all this places, to uncover more information. Literally couldn't give less of a fuck of the main story line I played the game to learn about the backstory it was SO WELL executed. Amazing. This game really made the back-story element great and it was so well integrated in to the game. But the main story left much to be desired ;( ","I played Horizon zero dawn and I have mixed feelings. I feel like the main arch and storyline was garbage but before you downvote me let me explain myself. The main story that was set in the current times about that HADES AI was pretty weak, the main villain was forgettable, didn't even care about him. All the characters in the sun castle or whatever that place was were also very forgettable. Literally, all the characters that were alive in the game, couldn't care about them except for that guy that was caring for Alloy in the beginning. He actually felt real, I liked that guy. And Alloy herself, she was also a great character. However, what made me fucking love this game. What immersed me so deeply is the second story told in the game. The story about that doctor woman that was Alloys mother kinda. The story of how humanity fell, died fighting. Like how all the backstory was uncovered. How we could see the destruction, what remained of humanity. This is probably the only game where I read all the data-logs like of soldiers that were writing to their families or vice-versa how they were being evacuated, etc... And then to see all this places, to uncover more information. Literally couldn't give less of a fuck of the main story line I played the game to learn about the backstory it was SO WELL executed. Amazing. This game really made the back-story element great and it was so well integrated in to the game. But the main story left much to be desired ;(","我玩了《地平线：零之黎明》，感觉复杂。我觉得主要情节和故事情节都很糟糕，但在你们给我踩之前，让我解释一下。 对现在这个关于HADES人工智能的主要故事情节来说，太弱了，主要反派角色不值一提，我甚至都没关心他。太阳城堡里的所有角色也都很不值一提。游戏中所有活着的角色，我都无法关心，除了一开始照顾艾莉的那个人。他感觉很真实，我喜欢他。艾莉本人也是个很棒的角色。 不过，让我真正喜欢这个游戏的是什么。让我深陷其中的是游戏中讲述的第二故事。关于那个医生女人，就是艾莉的“母亲”那个故事。关于人类如何失落，为了生存而战。就像怎样揭示了所有的背景故事。我们能看到毁灭，看到人类的残余。这可能是我唯一一个读完了游戏中所有数据日志的游戏，比如士兵们给家人写信，或者相反，他们被疏散的故事等等……然后去看那些地方，揭开更多信息。我对主要故事情节真的一点都不在乎，我玩游戏就是为了了解背景故事，它执行得太好了。太棒了。这个游戏真的将背景元素做得很好，而且很好地融入了游戏中。但主要故事让人失望得多；（",0 565,e192frt,Lawyers will use so much AI itll make cases easier but there will be less patients and doctors will fix them so you can work other things out like what if this shit ever happens again where trump tries to tweet,Lawyers will use so much AI itll make cases easier but there will be less patients and doctors will fix them so you can work other things out like what if this shit ever happens again where trump tries to tweet,律师将会大量使用人工智能，这将使案件更容易处理，但会减少病人，医生会来救他们，这样你就可以处理其他事情，比如万一特朗普再次试图发推特时会发生什么。,1 1696,e1f6vhj,"There is no such thing as an in-demand job anymore. 10 years ago they said teachers are ""in-demand""...they're all making crumbs. Doctors are quickly being replaced by either lower quality medical professionals, or gasp, technology. For fuck's sake, in Ohio (where I live) Home Health Aid is listed as the top ""in-demand"" job. You know how much they make? Like $10 an hour. Beside all that, you're dreaming if you think that we're somehow going to solve the issue of employer leverage by everyone becoming a doctor. Your thinking is exactly the problem. You take the easy way out and say ""ah but the market will solve this if everyone just pursues in-demand occupations"". It's a dangerous mindset today, and an even worse one in a world that is about to get smacked in the face with a piano by the impending AI and automation decimation of jobs.","There is no such thing as an in-demand job anymore. 10 years ago they said teachers are ""in-demand""...they're all making crumbs. Doctors are quickly being replaced by either lower quality medical professionals, or gasp, technology. For fuck's sake, in Ohio (where I live) Home Health Aid is listed as the top ""in-demand"" job. You know how much they make? Like 10 an hour. Beside all that, you're dreaming if you think that we're somehow going to solve the issue of employer leverage by everyone becoming a doctor. Your thinking is exactly the problem. You take the easy way out and say ""ah but the market will solve this if everyone just pursues in-demand occupations"". It's a dangerous mindset today, and an even worse one in a world that is about to get smacked in the face with a piano by the impending AI and automation decimation of jobs.","再也没有什么紧俏的工作了。10年前他们说老师是“紧俏”的...他们都只赚点零花钱。医生很快就会被质量较低的医疗专业人员或者呼吸急促地说，技术所取代。天啊，在俄亥俄州（我住的地方）家庭护理助理被列为最紧俏的工作。你知道他们赚多少钱吗？就像每小时10美元。 除此之外，如果你认为通过每个人都成为医生来解决雇主的利益问题，那你还在做梦。你的想法恰恰就是问题所在。你采取了捷径，说“啊，但是市场会解决这个问题，只要每个人都从事紧俏的职业”。这种心态在今天是危险的，而且在即将被人工智能和自动化摧毁工作的世界更是如此。",1 1008,e1fvpbk,"When a doctor asks a kid if his owie hurts, is he not technically proficient or is he being forced to use terminology he doesn't agree with? AI is a meaningless term that is currently applied to just about everything. ","When a doctor asks a kid if his owie hurts, is he not technically proficient or is he being forced to use terminology he doesn't agree with? AI is a meaningless term that is currently applied to just about everything.","当一个医生问一个孩子他的伤口痛不痛时，他是不是在技术上不精通，还是被迫使用他不同意的术语？ AI是一个当前被应用到几乎所有事物上的毫无意义的术语。",1 161,e1h4c0l,"That doesn't really equate. The comment in the podcast regarding radiologists was specific to the act of visually parsing patient scans. That's a single discrete task, and conceptually a vastly simpler task for an automated system to accomplish than wholesale replacing a clinician. It's a tool, not a doctor. Of course at the end of a day, sufficiently-powered AI could in theory do any job better than a human, high-powered or not. But I'm pretty sure clinicians will be in the back half of the UBI queue.","That doesn't really equate. The comment in the podcast regarding radiologists was specific to the act of visually parsing patient scans. That's a single discrete task, and conceptually a vastly simpler task for an automated system to accomplish than wholesale replacing a clinician. It's a tool, not a doctor. Of course at the end of a day, sufficiently-powered AI could in theory do any job better than a human, high-powered or not. But I'm pretty sure clinicians will be in the back half of the UBI queue.","这不太合适。播客中对放射科医生的评论是针对视觉解析患者扫描的行为。这只是一个单独的任务，对于自动化系统来说，在概念上比全面替代临床医生要简单得多。它只是一个工具，不是医生。 当然，在一天结束的时候，理论上，足够强大的人工智能能做任何工作比人类更好，无论是高技能的还是不是。但我很确定临床医生在普惠基本收入队列的后半部分。",1 4064,e1hj0qg,"AI is usually thought to replace some of the tasks people do not the whole job. It is possible that the tools that doctors use will be so much better that fewer doctors will be required. It seems extremely unlikely, but possible. Doctors are also part of baumol's cost disease. People continually expect higher levels of care so increased productivity, doesn't usually result in job losses or less money being spent in the industry. In fact the opposite is the tendency. A doctor of nurse is often thought to be the most secure job going forward.","AI is usually thought to replace some of the tasks people do not the whole job. It is possible that the tools that doctors use will be so much better that fewer doctors will be required. It seems extremely unlikely, but possible. Doctors are also part of baumol's cost disease. People continually expect higher levels of care so increased productivity, doesn't usually result in job losses or less money being spent in the industry. In fact the opposite is the tendency. A doctor of nurse is often thought to be the most secure job going forward.","AI通常被认为是用来取代人们所做的一些任务，而不是整个工作。 医生使用的工具可能会变得更好，这样就需要较少的医生。这似乎极不可能，但有可能。 医生也是鲍默尔成本疾病的一部分。人们不断期望更高水平的护理，因此增加生产率通常不会导致失业或在行业中花费较少的钱。事实上，恰恰相反。医生或护士经常被认为是未来最稳定的工作。",1 2539,e1hrmd9,"I'm sure that most GPs wouldn't care what you consider them to be - your opinion is inconsequential. Luckily, most of society recognises the fact that they've spent (at least) 5 years in med school, 2 years as a junior doctor and 3 years training as a GP - which definitely makes them real doctors. As for saying an AI is more human that someone who's spent 10 years training to be able to work in a profession that is all about serving others... Well, that's obviously bullshit. ","I'm sure that most GPs wouldn't care what you consider them to be - your opinion is inconsequential. Luckily, most of society recognises the fact that they've spent (at least) 5 years in med school, 2 years as a junior doctor and 3 years training as a GP - which definitely makes them real doctors. As for saying an AI is more human that someone who's spent 10 years training to be able to work in a profession that is all about serving others... Well, that's obviously bullshit.","我相信大多数家庭医生不会在乎你怎么看待他们 - 你的观点并不重要。 幸运的是，大多数社会都认识到他们至少花了5年时间在医学院学习，2年作为初级医生和3年的家庭医生培训 - 这绝对让他们成为真正的医生。 至于说一个人工智能比一个花了10年时间培训来在一个专业为他人服务的行业工作的人更具人情味... 嗯，这显然是胡扯。",1 626,e1huuwu,"He’s right, most GPs are glorified school nurses. You could say they spent 100 years training... so what? They still can’t diagnose for toffee. Your unconditional high praise of them is exactly why people get such a crap service from them, they know they’ll keep getting their arse kissed regardless. People cannot let go of their hero doctor fantasy. The vast majority really are nothing like this popular culture depiction. The sooner AI boots them out the door (or at least makes them idiotproof by doing everything for them) the better.","Hes right, most GPs are glorified school nurses. You could say they spent 100 years training... so what? They still cant diagnose for toffee. Your unconditional high praise of them is exactly why people get such a crap service from them, they know theyll keep getting their arse kissed regardless. People cannot let go of their hero doctor fantasy. The vast majority really are nothing like this popular culture depiction. The sooner AI boots them out the door (or at least makes them idiotproof by doing everything for them) the better.",他说得对，大多数普通医生就是被夸大的学校护士。他们可能花了100年时间接受培训...那又怎样？他们还是不能确诊。你对他们无条件的赞美恰恰是为什么人们从他们那里得到烂服务，他们知道无论如何都会被人捧着。人们不能放弃他们心中英雄医生的幻想。绝大多数人真的和流行文化中的描述完全不一样。越快AI把他们赶出门（或者至少使他们变笨蛋，所有事情都由AI来做）就越好。,1 4978,e1ia5he,">renewable energy sources. Nuclear, wind, solar I didn't miss that. I dont believe they will be sufficient to power the level of transportation we use today. anyway I hope self-driving tech can be part of the solution - self-driving deliveries could be smaller, slower, going at night etc. I think there are many times when you make a journey to get an item.. moving the item would be more efficient. like with your blood-test example - imagine if you could just take the sample then send it to the doctor (a 100g package instead of ~70kg). Pushing AI tech forward in all ways will increase the amount of work that can be done remotely","gt;renewable energy sources. Nuclear, wind, solar I didn't miss that. I dont believe they will be sufficient to power the level of transportation we use today. anyway I hope self-driving tech can be part of the solution - self-driving deliveries could be smaller, slower, going at night etc. I think there are many times when you make a journey to get an item.. moving the item would be more efficient. like with your blood-test example - imagine if you could just take the sample then send it to the doctor (a 100g package instead of 70kg). Pushing AI tech forward in all ways will increase the amount of work that can be done remotely","我没忽略那个。我觉得他们不足以满足今天我们所需的交通需求。 不管怎样，我希望自动驾驶技术可以成为解决方案的一部分 - 自动驾驶送货可能会更小、更慢，可以在夜间进行等等。我觉得很多时候你为了取得一个物品而出行.. 运输物品会更有效率。就像你的抽血例子一样 - 想象一下，如果你只需要取一小部分血样就能寄给医生（一个100克的包裹，而不是大约70公斤）。在所有方面推动人工智能技术将增加可以远程完成的工作量。",1 1563,e1jcskp,"So what happens when someone has dizziness, numbness, lightheadedness, fatigue, vision disturbances, or tinnitus etc, or any number of things that can’t be objectively tested for? Cos in the modern world currently it’s just assumed the patient’s lying - which is all kinds of wrong. While all the doctors are sitting round self congratulating themselves that they’ve found a lying patient, as if they were car insurance reps trying anything to get out of paying out. This pervasive attitude of basically trying to prove a patient’s lying is seriously toxic in medicine. It is not a hallmark of good care or a triumph of the sceptical scientific method. It amounts to institutionalised bullying of patients for the doctor’s convenience. It’s the easy option that they know they can get away with - what’s the patient gonna do... It’s all very well being reliant on objective tests, but while we still lack diagnostic capabilities for so much of what is actually happening to a patient, it’s absurd to be often treating them as the only really relevant details - jettisoning the rest as simply lies and exaggerations from the silly patient... Now, you may say to that, ‘Well, AI won’t help with that, it’ll just rely on objective data even more exclusively.’ But actually, it could integrate and respond to what the patient reports without prejudice - something most doctors seem incapable of. Many doctors nowadays have gone to the extremes of basically entirely disregarding the actual patient history as nothing more than small talk and pleasantries. The biggest irony surrounding doctors’ défense of their supposedly vital, inimitable role is that the very skills that they claim make them irreplaceable, are actually the very skills they lack. They are more robotic than the machines themselves, already following hugely overly simplified flowcharts to reach their diagnoses, and nearly autistically only acting on overly simplified objective measures alone. The very things people get concerned about AI doctoring and WebMD diagnosing etc for, is already rife. Hardly any doctors can deal with or are offering dynamic or nuanced diagnosing anyway...","So what happens when someone has dizziness, numbness, lightheadedness, fatigue, vision disturbances, or tinnitus etc, or any number of things that cant be objectively tested for? Cos in the modern world currently its just assumed the patients lying - which is all kinds of wrong. While all the doctors are sitting round self congratulating themselves that theyve found a lying patient, as if they were car insurance reps trying anything to get out of paying out. This pervasive attitude of basically trying to prove a patients lying is seriously toxic in medicine. It is not a hallmark of good care or a triumph of the sceptical scientific method. It amounts to institutionalised bullying of patients for the doctors convenience. Its the easy option that they know they can get away with - whats the patient gonna do... Its all very well being reliant on objective tests, but while we still lack diagnostic capabilities for so much of what is actually happening to a patient, its absurd to be often treating them as the only really relevant details - jettisoning the rest as simply lies and exaggerations from the silly patient... Now, you may say to that, Well, AI wont help with that, itll just rely on objective data even more exclusively. But actually, it could integrate and respond to what the patient reports without prejudice - something most doctors seem incapable of. Many doctors nowadays have gone to the extremes of basically entirely disregarding the actual patient history as nothing more than small talk and pleasantries. The biggest irony surrounding doctors dfense of their supposedly vital, inimitable role is that the very skills that they claim make them irreplaceable, are actually the very skills they lack. They are more robotic than the machines themselves, already following hugely overly simplified flowcharts to reach their diagnoses, and nearly autistically only acting on overly simplified objective measures alone. The very things people get concerned about AI doctoring and WebMD diagnosing etc for, is already rife. Hardly any doctors can deal with or are offering dynamic or nuanced diagnosing anyway...",那么，当有人出现头晕、麻木、眩晕、疲劳、视力障碍或耳鸣等症状时，或者还有许多无法进行客观测试的症状，会发生什么？因为在当今现代世界，人们往往默认患者在撒谎 - 这是完全错误的。所有的医生都坐在一起自我表扬，说他们找到了一个撒谎的患者，就好像他们是车险代理人尽一切办法拒绝赔付一样。这种基本上是试图证明患者在撒谎的态度在医学上是非常有毒的。这不是良好护理的标志，也不是怀疑科学方法取得胜利的标志。这等于是为了医生的方便而对患者进行机构化的欺凌。他们知道自己可以逃避惩罚，患者能怎么办呢... 是仰仗客观测试很好，但是当我们对患者实际发生的情况仍缺乏诊断能力时，把他们当做唯一真正相关细节的做法简直荒谬 - 把其他的东西都当作患者的谎言和夸张来丢弃... 现在，你可能会说，‘嗯，AI对此也无济于事，它只会更加依赖客观数据。’但实际上，它可以整合并回应患者报告的情况，不带任何偏见 - 这是许多医生似乎无法做到的。如今，许多医生已经完全无视实际的患者病史，认为那只不过是闲聊和客套话。围绕着医生所谓至关重要、无可替代的角色的最大讽刺是，他们声称使他们不可或缺的技能，实际上正是他们所缺乏的技能。他们比机器本身还要机械化，已经开始按照过于简化的流程图来进行诊断，几乎只根据过于简化的客观指标来行事。人们对AI医生和WebMD诊断等的担忧，实际上已经很普遍。几乎没有医生可以处理或提供动态或细致入微的诊断...,1 3462,e1lcm8u,">Prof Lim, who was the only foreign doctor in the competition, said AI technology like Biomind could help make a preliminary judgment on what condition a patient had, which doctors could then review, adding that this would reduce a doctor's workload. >""With a machine like this to help us, doctors would be able to serve patients better,"" he said. That may be true from the onset, but knowing how administrators work and their desire to cut operating costs, I won't be surprised if AI takes over the doctor's job in diagnostics.","gt;Prof Lim, who was the only foreign doctor in the competition, said AI technology like Biomind could help make a preliminary judgment on what condition a patient had, which doctors could then review, adding that this would reduce a doctor's workload. gt;""With a machine like this to help us, doctors would be able to serve patients better,"" he said. That may be true from the onset, but knowing how administrators work and their desire to cut operating costs, I won't be surprised if AI takes over the doctor's job in diagnostics.","Lim教授是比赛中唯一的外国医生，他说像Biomind这样的人工智能技术可以帮助初步判断患者的病情，医生可以再去审查，这样可以减轻医生的工作量。 “有了这样的机器帮助我们，医生就能更好地为患者服务，”他说。 从一开始可能是这样，但了解行政人员的工作方式和他们削减运营成本的愿望，如果AI接管了诊断医生的工作，我也不会感到惊讶。",1 3211,e1nqwhn,"A few things that spring to mind would be atypical cases, previous misdiagnoses, cultural aspects, domestic abuse versus say OI, assisting with end of life decisions, tropical and third world medicine. In short the parts of medicine where your first instinct is wrong and the doctor needs to recognize and adapt to that, preferably before adminsterring a detrimental treatment. Take OI versus child abuse, the way we rule out is with a genetic test AI could do this, but the test only checks for the most common genetic abherrations and it is then up to the physician to acceot the negative test or persue more rare etiologies orother even more rare bone dieases. At this point its really an emotional judgement and needs another dpctor to agree to proceed. Here is another problem when a difficult decision with care is made it usually requires multiple doctors agree to proceed. With AI presumably they get the same most updated program so there is never any possibility of dissent","A few things that spring to mind would be atypical cases, previous misdiagnoses, cultural aspects, domestic abuse versus say OI, assisting with end of life decisions, tropical and third world medicine. In short the parts of medicine where your first instinct is wrong and the doctor needs to recognize and adapt to that, preferably before adminsterring a detrimental treatment. Take OI versus child abuse, the way we rule out is with a genetic test AI could do this, but the test only checks for the most common genetic abherrations and it is then up to the physician to acceot the negative test or persue more rare etiologies orother even more rare bone dieases. At this point its really an emotional judgement and needs another dpctor to agree to proceed. Here is another problem when a difficult decision with care is made it usually requires multiple doctors agree to proceed. With AI presumably they get the same most updated program so there is never any possibility of dissent","有些东西让我想到了，比如非典型病例、先前的误诊、文化因素、家庭暴力与骨折病的区别、协助做出生命末期的决定、热带和第三世界医学。 简而言之，这些都是医学中你第一直觉是错误的地方，医生需要识别并适应，最好在施行有害治疗之前。 以骨折病和儿童虐待为例，我们排除的方法是进行遗传测试，AI可以做到这一点，但检测只针对最常见的基因异常，然后医生需要接受阴性测试或继续追寻更罕见的病因或者更罕见的骨疾。在这一点上，这真的是一种情绪判断，需要另一位医生同意继续进行。另一个问题是，当需要做出困难的护理决定时，通常需要多位医生同意继续进行。使用AI，他们可能会得到相同的最新程序，因此绝对没有不同意的可能性。",1 4827,e1nw7b3,"Check out the job boards for a few days. Data science is as much a way of thinking as it is a career... 'how can I use data to answer my questions'. You can start by doing some data gathering. In my own city, one huge thing I noticed, was there weren't really any junior data scientist positions. It's not a thing. Your results may vary, but over here, 'data scientist' is almost exclusively a senior position. There's more than one road in though. You could try and break into software engineering, data engineering, etc., and try and break in from the side. That's kind of what I'm doing, and it looks like it won't be too hard of a jump. Get down to the ground level though of what a data scientist 'is' though. You're a scientist, using the scientific method to figure out ways to empirically answer complicated questions. I have a hard time imagining someone would be competent doing that kind of work without quite a bit of theoretical background, and a huge amount of personal resourcefulness, not to mention a great deal of time honing this particular way of thinking. In that sense, maybe it's not too different from being a doctor. Can anyone be a doctor? Probably, but the amount of work and dedication it will take is substantial. That said... I mentioned there's a lot of things called 'data scientists'. If you want something low key without much math involved, there's work doing data viz, report generation, data engineering... maybe going in one of those directions will be more fulfilling. One thing worth asking though... is your math and logical thinking just unrefined, or is it genuinely something you don't enjoy, or don't feel you have an aptitude for? Interest goes a long way. It's fine if you aren't very far into math or stats yet, you can get that under your belt given some time. But if you don't enjoy it, struggle with it...that's another thing. As far as where to start... that's a tough one. A lot of the 'normal' suggestions (fast.ai, Ng's classes, machine learning A-Z) will hold your hand and walk you through implementing some cutting edge algorithms on interesting problems. They won't give you any experience though in the actual 'thinking like a data scientist' bit though... figuring out how to tackle messy problems in the real world, while dealing with decision makers, budget constraints, and timelines. But hey, you gotta start somewhere, and those places are a good a resource as any. Maybe try it out, see if you like it. Maybe like me, you'll find that math becomes a lot more interesting when it's a tool being used to solve useful problems, instead of just a masturbatory abstract puzzle.","Check out the job boards for a few days. Data science is as much a way of thinking as it is a career... 'how can I use data to answer my questions'. You can start by doing some data gathering. In my own city, one huge thing I noticed, was there weren't really any junior data scientist positions. It's not a thing. Your results may vary, but over here, 'data scientist' is almost exclusively a senior position. There's more than one road in though. You could try and break into software engineering, data engineering, etc., and try and break in from the side. That's kind of what I'm doing, and it looks like it won't be too hard of a jump. Get down to the ground level though of what a data scientist 'is' though. You're a scientist, using the scientific method to figure out ways to empirically answer complicated questions. I have a hard time imagining someone would be competent doing that kind of work without quite a bit of theoretical background, and a huge amount of personal resourcefulness, not to mention a great deal of time honing this particular way of thinking. In that sense, maybe it's not too different from being a doctor. Can anyone be a doctor? Probably, but the amount of work and dedication it will take is substantial. That said... I mentioned there's a lot of things called 'data scientists'. If you want something low key without much math involved, there's work doing data viz, report generation, data engineering... maybe going in one of those directions will be more fulfilling. One thing worth asking though... is your math and logical thinking just unrefined, or is it genuinely something you don't enjoy, or don't feel you have an aptitude for? Interest goes a long way. It's fine if you aren't very far into math or stats yet, you can get that under your belt given some time. But if you don't enjoy it, struggle with it...that's another thing. As far as where to start... that's a tough one. A lot of the 'normal' suggestions (fast.ai, Ng's classes, machine learning A-Z) will hold your hand and walk you through implementing some cutting edge algorithms on interesting problems. They won't give you any experience though in the actual 'thinking like a data scientist' bit though... figuring out how to tackle messy problems in the real world, while dealing with decision makers, budget constraints, and timelines. But hey, you gotta start somewhere, and those places are a good a resource as any. Maybe try it out, see if you like it. Maybe like me, you'll find that math becomes a lot more interesting when it's a tool being used to solve useful problems, instead of just a masturbatory abstract puzzle.","试着看看招聘信息几天。数据科学不仅仅是一种职业，更是一种思维方式…‘我怎样才能利用数据来回答我的问题’。你可以从做一些数据收集开始。在我所在的城市，我发现一个很重要的事情，那就是几乎没有初级数据科学家的职位。这种职位几乎不存在。你的结果可能会有所不同，但在这里，‘数据科学家’几乎是一个高级职位。不过也有其他的途径。你可以尝试从软件工程、数据工程等方向入手，然后试图从侧面进入。这也是我正在做的事情，看起来跳跃起来不会太难。 不过，先要弄清楚数据科学家的‘本质’是什么。你是一个科学家，使用科学方法来找出如何实证回答复杂的问题。我很难想象一个人能胜任这种工作而没有相当多的理论背景，并且需要非常多的个人机智，更不用说大量时间来磨炼这种特定的思维方式了。在这个意义上，也许和成为一名医生并没有太大的不同。谁都可以成为医生吗？可能吧，但需要投入的时间和精力是相当可观的。 不过…我提到有很多被称为‘数据科学家’的东西。如果你想要一份不需要太多数学参与的轻松工作，可以从做数据可视化、报告生成、数据工程等方向着手…也许走这些方向会更有成就感。 还有一件值得问的事情是…你的数学和逻辑思维只是不成熟，还是你真的不喜欢，或者觉得自己没有天赋？兴趣是很重要的。如果你的数学或统计学还不是很高级，也没有关系，经过一段时间你可以学会。但如果你不喜欢或者很难学会…那就另当别论了。 至于从哪里开始…这就难了。很多‘常规’建议（fast.ai, 吴恩达的课程，机器学习 A-Z）会手把手地教你如何在有趣的问题上实施一些前沿算法。但这些地方并不会让你获得真正的‘像数据科学家一样思考’的经验…解决现实世界中的棘手问题，同时处理决策者、预算约束和时间要求。不过，你总得从某个地方开始，这些地方也是不错的资源。也许试一试，看看你喜不喜欢。也许像我一样，当数学变成解决有用问题的工具时，会变得更有趣，而不仅仅是一个毫无意义的抽象难题。",0 94,e1oc778,"Last time we lost the ""middle class"" jobs that paid a decent wage, they were replaced with hourly-minimum-wage jobs. Next time we will be losing all of the ""a robot can be made to do this"" jobs. Think 'picking warehouse items' and 'truck drivers' and 'cab drivers' and 'fast food workers'. The following time (maybe sooner) we will be losing all of the ""a well-built artificial intelligence entity can be made to do this"" jobs. Think 'medical doctor', 'lawyer', 'IT administrator', 'accountant', 'tax professional'.","Last time we lost the ""middle class"" jobs that paid a decent wage, they were replaced with hourly-minimum-wage jobs. Next time we will be losing all of the ""a robot can be made to do this"" jobs. Think 'picking warehouse items' and 'truck drivers' and 'cab drivers' and 'fast food workers'. The following time (maybe sooner) we will be losing all of the ""a well-built artificial intelligence entity can be made to do this"" jobs. Think 'medical doctor', 'lawyer', 'IT administrator', 'accountant', 'tax professional'.","上一次我们失去了支付体面工资的“中产阶级”工作，它们被按小时最低工资的工作所取代。 下一次，我们将失去所有“机器人可以做到这个”工作。比如‘挑选仓库物品’和‘卡车司机’和‘出租车司机’还有‘快餐工人’。 接下来的一次（可能更快）我们将失去所有“一个良好的人工智能实体可以做到这个”工作。比如‘医生’、‘律师’、‘IT管理员’、‘会计师’、‘税务专家’。",1 2243,e1ocs8i,"Interesting.. so I am also a regular at the t-nation forum, and KSMan (quite knowledgable, wrote the stickies) has this to say about undecanonate: ""That product was made to make money by carving out a market segment where patients would not be self-injecting and doctors would not have to inject very often. The result is wildly varying T levels with varying T–>E2 rates, SHBG and serum E2 levels. Guys cannot get E2 balance on this and the changing FT, albumin+T levels means that a competitive AI like anastrozole cannot be doses correctly. E2 management seems to be mission critical for most TRT guys. When doctors and health systems do not care about quality of life outcomes these things by definition do not matter. Nebido therapy is the exact opposite of my TRT objectives."" https://forums.t-nation.com/t/experiences-with-nebido-aveed/227587/6 ","Interesting.. so I am also a regular at the t-nation forum, and KSMan (quite knowledgable, wrote the stickies) has this to say about undecanonate: ""That product was made to make money by carving out a market segment where patients would not be self-injecting and doctors would not have to inject very often. The result is wildly varying T levels with varying Tgt;E2 rates, SHBG and serum E2 levels. Guys cannot get E2 balance on this and the changing FT, albuminT levels means that a competitive AI like anastrozole cannot be doses correctly. E2 management seems to be mission critical for most TRT guys. When doctors and health systems do not care about quality of life outcomes these things by definition do not matter. Nebido therapy is the exact opposite of my TRT objectives."" https:forums.t-nation.comtexperiences-with-nebido-aveed2275876","有趣的是，我也经常在t-nation论坛上，KSMan（非常有知识，写了精华帖）对于undecanonate有这样的看法： “这个产品是为了通过开辟一个市场细分来赚钱，让患者不需要自己注射，医生也不需要经常注射。结果就是T水平变化很大，T–>E2速率、SHBG和血清E2水平也变化很大。男生们不能在这上面达到E2平衡，不断变化的FT、白蛋白+T水平意味着一种竞争性的AI（如阿那曲唑）无法正确使用。E2管理对大多数TRT的男生来说至关重要。当医生和健康系统不关心生活质量结果时，这些事情在定义上并不重要。Nebido疗法恰恰是我TRT目标的完全相反。” 看起来是在讨论Nebido的经验。",0 315,e1of57i,"I don't think anyone would argue that short work days/weeks, robots taking over dangerous/repetitive tasks etc are a bad thing - as long as there is a clear plan for what to do with all the displaced workers. I keep hearing people say the solution is education - just move up to higher-level brain-work and leave the rest to machines/AI. But we can't all become computer scientists, biotech researchers, doctors etc. I can't imagine there being enough demand for such skills to cover all of humanity.","I don't think anyone would argue that short work daysweeks, robots taking over dangerousrepetitive tasks etc are a bad thing - as long as there is a clear plan for what to do with all the displaced workers. I keep hearing people say the solution is education - just move up to higher-level brain-work and leave the rest to machinesAI. But we can't all become computer scientists, biotech researchers, doctors etc. I can't imagine there being enough demand for such skills to cover all of humanity.","我不认为有人会反对短工作日/周，机器人接管危险/重复性任务等等，这些都是好事 - 只要有一个清晰的计划来安置所有被替换的工人。 我一直听到人们说解决方案就是要接受教育 - 升级到更高级的脑力劳动，把其他工作交给机器/人工智能。但我们不可能所有人都去成为计算机科学家，生物技术研究员，医生等等。我无法想象有足够的需求来覆盖整个人类的这些技能。",1 1890,e1oqd7q,"I hear you, and the first part of your statement is correct. I disagree on my current job being doomed, at least for the nearish future, for a few reasons. * We're still incredibly far from an entire factory being a giant, sealed, AI-run box that feeds itself and spits out product. We need fewer and fewer people to monitor equipment, but we're a long way from few people being zero people. Turtles all the way down and all that. * There is still room for manual processes even today. Some of the things we make are incredibly low volume components of larger assemblies that it just wouldn't be cost effective to set up for automation. If we need an hour's labor worth a month, even shipping isn't worth replacing a guy turning the crank. * Similarly, any relatively low volumes demanded are relatively safe from the higher levels of automation you're referring to, just based on the years it would take to justify the initial investment. * Finally, it seems to me like many jobs are just as vulnerable as mine. A database and a good UI could replace HR at a lot of companies with very little supervision, engineering drafters can be replaced with good enough software, doctors could be replaced with sufficiently advanced diagnostic equipment. I'm not saying that my job is safe, I'm just saying that I think many people think of manual labor as the only thing we'll lose to automation, when that's just not the case. ","I hear you, and the first part of your statement is correct. I disagree on my current job being doomed, at least for the nearish future, for a few reasons. We're still incredibly far from an entire factory being a giant, sealed, AI-run box that feeds itself and spits out product. We need fewer and fewer people to monitor equipment, but we're a long way from few people being zero people. Turtles all the way down and all that. There is still room for manual processes even today. Some of the things we make are incredibly low volume components of larger assemblies that it just wouldn't be cost effective to set up for automation. If we need an hour's labor worth a month, even shipping isn't worth replacing a guy turning the crank. Similarly, any relatively low volumes demanded are relatively safe from the higher levels of automation you're referring to, just based on the years it would take to justify the initial investment. Finally, it seems to me like many jobs are just as vulnerable as mine. A database and a good UI could replace HR at a lot of companies with very little supervision, engineering drafters can be replaced with good enough software, doctors could be replaced with sufficiently advanced diagnostic equipment. I'm not saying that my job is safe, I'm just saying that I think many people think of manual labor as the only thing we'll lose to automation, when that's just not the case.","我知道你的意思，你的说法的前半部分是对的。但我不同意我的目前的工作注定要完蛋，至少在不远的将来是这样，有几个原因。 * 我们离整个工厂变成一个巨大的封闭的人工智能运行的工厂，整个过程都是自动的还相差很远。我们需要越来越少的人来监控设备，但离零个人还有很长的路要走。就像一直在倒退一样，永无止境。 * 即使在今天，手工操作仍然有一定的空间。我们生产的一些东西，只是更大装配中极低产量的组件，要将其自动化并不划算。如果我们一个月只需一小时的人工成本，即使是运输也不划算去取代一个人来操作。 * 同样的，任何相对较低的需求量都相对安全，至少从需要多少年才能收回初始投资的角度来看。 * 最后，我觉得很多工作都和我的一样容易受到威胁。很多公司只需要一个数据库和一个良好的界面就能取代人力资源部门，工程草图也可以用足够优秀的软件代替，医生也可以被足够先进的诊断设备代替。我不是在说我的工作很安全，我只是觉得很多人认为只有体力劳动才会被自动化取代，而情况并非如此。",1 1554,e1rzgz1,"Sadly this is a good thing, unless access to ai doctors will cost more than human doctors, because it's faster and more accurate.","Sadly this is a good thing, unless access to ai doctors will cost more than human doctors, because it's faster and more accurate.",很遗憾，这其实是件好事，除非接触AI医生比人类医生更贵，因为它更快速和更准确。,1 4503,e1sk060,So are these medical AI's that are out performing human doctors being used in any clinic yet?,So are these medical AI's that are out performing human doctors being used in any clinic yet?,那些能够超越医生表现的医疗人工智能已经在任何诊所中使用了吗？,1 134,e1uqixc,"Communitarianism is what you're looking for. Modern commutarianism really only exists in the form of Christian Democratic parties, what we need is one that is irreligious and operates to the benefit of all while respecting the privacy and independence of individuals (at least in the US where individualism is held above all else). Fortunately, that may be possible. What if we could use the same machine learning AIs and blockchain based networks Silicon Valley is developing to essentially replace Managers and turn the whole damn workforce into freelancers to create hyper-efficient government programs that individuals can have more direct control over. Think of it this way. What if instead of your health insurance being controlled by a huge bureaucracy, it was something you could easily access and manage on your phone, continually updated an optimized as a service by countless freelance programmers and UX designers directed by a machine learning AI, with your healthcare information instantly accessible to any other healthcare worker. You could go to any doctor you wanted and the AI would manage payment, information transfer to the hospital, and negotiate price and payment the same way airlines do today when calculating air fare. The government's only job would be to keep the servers running, and collect taxes to pay for everything. The actual administration of the service would be taken out of human control. Now apply that principle housing, infrastructure, internet service, and retirement services. A social welfare system that the government actually has very little power over on a day-to-day basis.","Communitarianism is what you're looking for. Modern commutarianism really only exists in the form of Christian Democratic parties, what we need is one that is irreligious and operates to the benefit of all while respecting the privacy and independence of individuals (at least in the US where individualism is held above all else). Fortunately, that may be possible. What if we could use the same machine learning AIs and blockchain based networks Silicon Valley is developing to essentially replace Managers and turn the whole damn workforce into freelancers to create hyper-efficient government programs that individuals can have more direct control over. Think of it this way. What if instead of your health insurance being controlled by a huge bureaucracy, it was something you could easily access and manage on your phone, continually updated an optimized as a service by countless freelance programmers and UX designers directed by a machine learning AI, with your healthcare information instantly accessible to any other healthcare worker. You could go to any doctor you wanted and the AI would manage payment, information transfer to the hospital, and negotiate price and payment the same way airlines do today when calculating air fare. The government's only job would be to keep the servers running, and collect taxes to pay for everything. The actual administration of the service would be taken out of human control. Now apply that principle housing, infrastructure, internet service, and retirement services. A social welfare system that the government actually has very little power over on a day-to-day basis.","社区主义是你所寻找的。现代社区主义实际上只以基督教民主党为形式存在，我们需要的是一个非宗教的社区主义，它能造福所有人，同时尊重个体的隐私和独立（至少在美国，个人主义被视为最重要的价值）。 幸运的是，这可能是可行的。如果我们能利用硅谷正在开发的机器学习人工智能和基于区块链的网络，从根本上取代管理人员，并将整个劳动力转变成自由职业者，那么就能创造出超高效的政府计划，个人可以更直接地控制。 想象一下。如果你的健康保险不再由一个庞大的官僚机构控制，而是可以轻松在手机上访问和管理，由无数自由职业程序员和UX设计师不断更新和优化，由机器学习人工智能指导，你的医疗信息可以即时被任何其他医护人员访问。你可以去任何你想去的医生那里，而人工智能将管理付款、信息传输给医院，并像今天计算航班票价一样，协商价格和付款方式。 政府的唯一工作就是保持服务器运行，并征税支付一切。服务的实际管理将脱离人类的控制。现在将这个原则应用于住房、基础设施、互联网服务和退休服务。 一个社会福利系统，在日常基础上政府实际上几乎没有什么权力。",1 4236,e1vccso,"I'm disappointed with the last episode of him completely. -he basically says good by to AI versions of his pals. Wtf. That's not intimate or heart felt at all. ""Goodby computer Clara. I miss u"". Tf? -His goodbye speech had ""dont ever eat pears"" again. Come on man. You already said that and made that big in one episode. Hes just screaming in his tardis to no one lol It could have been done so much better. Organize some way for jenna Coleman to come back on set for a week and make it hit home. Even if we had to wait months. Have clara tell the doctor what she said in the cloisters so we can grip to our seats. Idk what was in their minds for the last episode. Just doesnt seem like they tried and I'm still very upset about it lol",I'm disappointed with the last episode of him completely. -he basically says good by to AI versions of his pals. Wtf. That's not intimate or heart felt at all. "Goodby computer Clara. I miss u". Tf? -His goodbye speech had "dont ever eat pears" again. Come on man. You already said that and made that big in one episode. Hes just screaming in his tardis to no one lol It could have been done so much better. Organize some way for jenna Coleman to come back on set for a week and make it hit home. Even if we had to wait months. Have clara tell the doctor what she said in the cloisters so we can grip to our seats. Idk what was in their minds for the last episode. Just doesnt seem like they tried and I'm still very upset about it lol,"我对他最后一集完全失望。 -他基本上是在和他朋友的AI版本告别。搞什么鬼。这一点都不亲密或发自内心。“再见，电脑克拉拉。我想你。”搞什么? -他的告别演讲里居然说了“永远不要再吃梨”。拜托，你之前已经在一集里说过了还搞得这么大动静。他就是在自己的时空飞船里跟没人说话而已哈哈 这一集本可以做得更好。安排一些方式让詹娜·科尔曼回到片场一周，让观众感受到情感。哪怕我们要等上几个月。让克莱拉告诉医生她在修道院里说了什么，让我们屏住呼吸。我真搞不懂他们为什么会这样拍最后一集。感觉他们并没有尽力，我现在还很生气哈哈",0 507,e1wg3zx,"For physicians that see patients this is 100% correct. Physicians that don’t see patients (such as radiologists and pathologists) they can use AI’s for pattern recognition leading to fewer mistakes. ",For physicians that see patients this is 100 correct. Physicians that dont see patients (such as radiologists and pathologists) they can use AIs for pattern recognition leading to fewer mistakes.,对于看病人的医生来说，这是百分之百正确的。而不需要看病人的医生（比如放射科医生和病理学家），他们可以利用人工智能进行模式识别，减少错误。,1 538,e20xlgd,"if you aren't sure what my point is, that is you failing at understanding something important. lets say the AI is only better because it does not get tired. then you would prefer a fresh doctor of the AI, right? So the AI is not ""better"" under all circumstances. That's my point. If you can't grasp why that point is important, go ask someone else. I'm seriously tired of explaining it. ","if you aren't sure what my point is, that is you failing at understanding something important. lets say the AI is only better because it does not get tired. then you would prefer a fresh doctor of the AI, right? So the AI is not ""better"" under all circumstances. That's my point. If you can't grasp why that point is important, go ask someone else. I'm seriously tired of explaining it.","如果你不确定我的观点是什么，那就是你没理解重要的东西。 比如说，人工智能只是比较好是因为它不会累。 那你是不是更喜欢一个不会累的人工智能医生？ 所以人工智能不是在所有情况下都“更好”。 这就是我的观点。如果你不明白这个观点为什么重要，去问别人吧。我已经厌倦解释了。",1 364,e20y5d8,"You should do some research on other AI vs Doctor tests they've done, AI has won every time so far.","You should do some research on other AI vs Doctor tests they've done, AI has won every time so far.",你应该去研究一下其他人工智能与医生的测试，到目前为止人工智能每次都赢了。,1 2818,e2128vj,"Artificial intelligence is so awesome now that robot doctors are beginning to be created. I'm making them better, cheaper, and faster at diagnosing mental disorders like cognitive impairment and depression ","Artificial intelligence is so awesome now that robot doctors are beginning to be created. I'm making them better, cheaper, and faster at diagnosing mental disorders like cognitive impairment and depression",现在人工智能太棒了，以至于开始制造机器医生。我正在让它们在诊断认知障碍和抑郁等精神障碍方面变得更好、更便宜和更快。,1 2721,e2139k1,"If you want the best diagnosis you don't want humans doing the diagnosis, thats why AI is being developed and tested on this. The AI does the same processes the brain does just faster and without the external factors of tiredness / emotions or visual discrepancies. Eg not all doctors have 20/20 vision. I agree that we shouldn't rely 100% on AI since if the AI does get it wrong theres no back up. This is how i think AI will ""fit"" in the medical world. You get your scans and tests done, the AI will list all possible diagnoses in order of ""most likely"" based on everything it knows about you. Then the doctor should use that as a guide to do process of elimination to filter it down to the final diagnosis. With a final diagnosis by the doctor they can then have the AI do more deeper tests on that specific issue to evaluate how likely it is. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izZofvgaIig This is good explanation for it. ","If you want the best diagnosis you don't want humans doing the diagnosis, thats why AI is being developed and tested on this. The AI does the same processes the brain does just faster and without the external factors of tiredness emotions or visual discrepancies. Eg not all doctors have 2020 vision. I agree that we shouldn't rely 100 on AI since if the AI does get it wrong theres no back up. This is how i think AI will ""fit"" in the medical world. You get your scans and tests done, the AI will list all possible diagnoses in order of ""most likely"" based on everything it knows about you. Then the doctor should use that as a guide to do process of elimination to filter it down to the final diagnosis. With a final diagnosis by the doctor they can then have the AI do more deeper tests on that specific issue to evaluate how likely it is. https:www.youtube.comwatch?vizZofvgaIig This is good explanation for it.","如果你想要最佳的诊断结果，你不会希望由人类来进行诊断，这就是为什么人工智能正在被开发和测试的原因。人工智能做的是大脑做的同样的过程，只是更快，而且没有疲劳/情绪或视觉差异等外部因素的影响。比如，并非所有的医生都有20/20的视力。 我同意我们不应该100%依赖人工智能，因为如果人工智能出错了，就没有备份了。 这就是我认为人工智能会在医疗界""融合""的方式。 你做完扫描和测试，人工智能会列出所有可能的诊断，根据它所知道的关于你的一切情况，按照""最有可能""的顺序排列。然后医生应该把这作为一个指南，来进行排除法，最终确定最终的诊断结果。 有了医生的最终诊断，他们可以让人工智能对这个特定问题进行更深入的测试，评估它的可能性有多大。 这个视频解释得很好。",1 1978,e21whoe,"Artificial Intelligence and Star Trek have had issues. The Doctor, Data, the ExoComps are in a very gray area that shouldn't have been gray anymore in the 23rd century. We can even lump in Moriarty here. As long as there is a biological underpinning for the sentience and everything is fine, if it is technological the Federation has issues. Look at the the way both the Horta and the Microbrain were treated. ""Ooh you are sentient, ok then.""","Artificial Intelligence and Star Trek have had issues. The Doctor, Data, the ExoComps are in a very gray area that shouldn't have been gray anymore in the 23rd century. We can even lump in Moriarty here. As long as there is a biological underpinning for the sentience and everything is fine, if it is technological the Federation has issues. Look at the the way both the Horta and the Microbrain were treated. ""Ooh you are sentient, ok then.""","人工智能和《星际迷航》之间存在一些问题。博士、数据、ExoComps处于一个在23世纪就不应该再是灰色地带的状态。我们甚至可以把莫里亚蒂也算进来。 只要智慧有生物基础，一切都好说，但如果是技术上的，联邦就有问题。 看看霍尔塔和微脑被对待的方式。“哦，你有智慧，好吧。”",0 3331,e2654jk,"> Fuck me this is wild. It really is. Humans are currently training AIs to do what they do, and we continue to upload data to the web to further feed these AIs. The AIs aren't magic - an AI doctor isn't better than a human doctor, except the AI doctor can simultaneously read millions of medical texts, does not age, does not forget, and doesn't get tired. Similarly, you can probably distinguish how a cityscape looks like if it's covered by a tree, right? You've had your personal experiences as a human to learn it, and your brain fills in the blanks. AIs draw on the immense knowledgebase to fill in their blanks. This is the bleeding edge of tech that the average layperson is completely in the dark about, but is really starting to revolutionize our world.","gt; Fuck me this is wild. It really is. Humans are currently training AIs to do what they do, and we continue to upload data to the web to further feed these AIs. The AIs aren't magic - an AI doctor isn't better than a human doctor, except the AI doctor can simultaneously read millions of medical texts, does not age, does not forget, and doesn't get tired. Similarly, you can probably distinguish how a cityscape looks like if it's covered by a tree, right? You've had your personal experiences as a human to learn it, and your brain fills in the blanks. AIs draw on the immense knowledgebase to fill in their blanks. This is the bleeding edge of tech that the average layperson is completely in the dark about, but is really starting to revolutionize our world.","这真是疯狂啊。 是啊，现在人类正在训练人工智能来做他们自己做的事情，而且我们还在不断地向网络上传数据，以进一步满足这些人工智能的需求。 人工智能并不是魔法 - 一个人工智能医生并不比一个人类医生更好，只不过人工智能医生可以同时阅读数百万份医学文本，不会变老，不会忘记，也不会累。同样，你可以在树木遮挡的城市景观中分辨出它的样子，对吧？你作为人类有你的个人经验来学习，你的大脑会填补空缺。人工智能依赖庞大的知识库来填补它们的空白。 这是科技的前沿，在普通人眼里完全是一片黑暗，但它确实开始彻底改变我们的世界了。",1 3793,e2iq2bq,"Fascinating idea man for sure. But why would you assume this little euphoria you get is from estrogen and not a combination of test and estrogen? Btw which aromatase inhibitors do you have experience with? I was thinking of trying to get one prescribed myself. I suspect I may have some symptoms related to an imbalance of the two steroids, perhaps exacerabated by my stim use. It's seems like every time I come off stims my body starts hording water like a miser. Makes me feel sluggish and bloated in comparison to when I'm on stims. I was hoping I might have a chance to try synthing a chalcone derivative that acts as an AI in my chem lab on the side, but I'm not sure I'll have time. Probably makes more sense to use legitimate channels in the meantime, but my doctor is honestly an asshole who's extremely stingy with the prescription pad. ","Fascinating idea man for sure. But why would you assume this little euphoria you get is from estrogen and not a combination of test and estrogen? Btw which aromatase inhibitors do you have experience with? I was thinking of trying to get one prescribed myself. I suspect I may have some symptoms related to an imbalance of the two steroids, perhaps exacerabated by my stim use. It's seems like every time I come off stims my body starts hording water like a miser. Makes me feel sluggish and bloated in comparison to when I'm on stims. I was hoping I might have a chance to try synthing a chalcone derivative that acts as an AI in my chem lab on the side, but I'm not sure I'll have time. Probably makes more sense to use legitimate channels in the meantime, but my doctor is honestly an asshole who's extremely stingy with the prescription pad.","这个点子真是太有意思了。但是你怎么能觉得你的快乐感是来源于雌激素而不是睾酮和雌激素的混合作用呢？ 对了，你用过哪些芳香化酶抑制剂？我在考虑自己也想尝试一种。我怀疑我可能有一些与两种类固醇失衡有关的症状，也许还被我服用兴奋剂加剧了。似乎每次我停止服用兴奋剂，我的身体就开始像守财奴一样囤积水分。这让我觉得迟钝和浮肿，和我服用兴奋剂时感觉完全不一样。 我希望我能有机会在我的化学实验室试验一种在侧面起作用的芳香化酶抑制剂，但我不确定我会有时间。也许在这段时间内使用合法渠道更有道理，但我的医生实在是一个极其小气的人，对开处方药方面非常刻薄。",0 4099,e2nogvo,"It makes sense to me. If you hand a human doctor a 10,000,000 x 10,000,000 pixel HD image of a scan, will that doctor meticulsously inspect every cluster of pixels to find even the smallest potential problem? Probably not, they don't have time! Will that doctor know what specific shapes and patterns are a potential concern and what are natural variation? They will probably have some idea, but their decisions will also involve some guesswork, bias and be less likely to detect the smallest growths at early stages. Machine learning dominates here, it can use scientific statistical methods to derive what patterns and shapes are of concern by analyisng thousands of scans and comparing those scans to ultimate diagnosis months later. It can also carefully inspect every single bit of the scan for problems. I.e It can analyse a 70x70 pixel segment in the upper top left 2% of the bottom side corner of the organ and instantly compare that aginst thousands of scans of the same area, to identify something a doctor would miss 99 times out of 100. AI will be able to do things that just aren't vaible for a human doctor due to time constraints, in this example comparing every single segment against thousands of scans of that particular segment. ","It makes sense to me. If you hand a human doctor a 10,000,000 x 10,000,000 pixel HD image of a scan, will that doctor meticulsously inspect every cluster of pixels to find even the smallest potential problem? Probably not, they don't have time! Will that doctor know what specific shapes and patterns are a potential concern and what are natural variation? They will probably have some idea, but their decisions will also involve some guesswork, bias and be less likely to detect the smallest growths at early stages. Machine learning dominates here, it can use scientific statistical methods to derive what patterns and shapes are of concern by analyisng thousands of scans and comparing those scans to ultimate diagnosis months later. It can also carefully inspect every single bit of the scan for problems. I.e It can analyse a 70x70 pixel segment in the upper top left 2 of the bottom side corner of the organ and instantly compare that aginst thousands of scans of the same area, to identify something a doctor would miss 99 times out of 100. AI will be able to do things that just aren't vaible for a human doctor due to time constraints, in this example comparing every single segment against thousands of scans of that particular segment.","我觉得这是有道理的。如果你给一个人类医生一张1,000万 x 1,000万像素的高清扫描图像，他会不会细致地检查每个像素组成的区域，甚至找出最小的潜在问题？可能不会，因为他们没有时间！那个医生会知道什么具体形状和图案可能是潜在问题，而什么是自然变化吗？他们可能会有一些想法，但他们的决定也可能包含一些猜测、偏见，并且不太可能在早期阶段检测到最小的生长。 在这里，机器学习占据主导地位，它可以使用科学统计方法来分析成千上万次扫描，将这些扫描与数月后的最终诊断进行对比，从而推导出什么图案和形状是值得关注的。它还可以仔细地检查扫描的每一个部分。也就是说，它可以分析器官的左上角顶端底边的2%的70x70像素分段，并立即将其与同一区域的成千上万张扫描进行比较，识别出医生可能会错过的东西，有99次中会有一次。 AI能够做一些人类医生由于时间限制而无法做的事情，在这个例子中，比较每个细分部分与数千个该特定细分部分的扫描。",1 3929,e2oz5ew,"Well, enemy attacks and spatial anomalies that render entire crews unconscious, incapacitated or just plain absent are not as rare as one would hope, so an artificial intelligence linked to the ship with orders to get the ship and crew out of danger (and rescue the crew in case of kidnapping) is not an unreasonable idea. As for why Voyager used the Doctor instead of just giving the computer auto-commands: it's made clear that the Doctor is a full sentient being while the ship's computer AI is not. I would assume that this means that the computer could only respond in pre-programmed ways to anticipated situations, while the Doctor could respond to unexpected situations with new tactics and ideas. And since if you're in a situation that calls for an ECH it is almost certainly unexpected, this makes using the Doctor a better choice.","Well, enemy attacks and spatial anomalies that render entire crews unconscious, incapacitated or just plain absent are not as rare as one would hope, so an artificial intelligence linked to the ship with orders to get the ship and crew out of danger (and rescue the crew in case of kidnapping) is not an unreasonable idea. As for why Voyager used the Doctor instead of just giving the computer auto-commands: it's made clear that the Doctor is a full sentient being while the ship's computer AI is not. I would assume that this means that the computer could only respond in pre-programmed ways to anticipated situations, while the Doctor could respond to unexpected situations with new tactics and ideas. And since if you're in a situation that calls for an ECH it is almost certainly unexpected, this makes using the Doctor a better choice.",嗯，敌人的攻击和空间异常使整个船员昏迷、无力或者消失的情况并不像人们希望的那样罕见，所以一个与船舰连接并且受命将船和机组人员带离危险之处（并在绑架时营救机组人员）的人工智能并不是一个不合理的想法。至于为什么《航海家号》使用医生而不只是给电脑自动指令：很明显，医生是一个完全有意识的存在，而船舰的电脑人工智能则不是。我认为这意味着电脑只能以预先编程的方式应对预期的情况，而医生则可以以新的策略和想法应对意外情况。而且，因为如果你身处需要使用紧急医疗程序的情况几乎肯定是意外情况，所以使用医生是一个更好的选择。,0 5006,e2ueoy2,"Well there was that one Voyager episode where they do encounter an AI civilization, where it suggested they had the autonomy of Data. Though im not sure if that's completely true. But im not sure that is completely true. The robots were in a state of civil war. So they too were not shown in the best light. I would love an episode or even a series dedicated to an experimental starfleet ship full of just holo-people serving as the crew. Each holo-person having their own unique personality. They'd have to be fully autonomous and sentient, and choose to freely serve. Thats the only way for starfleet to have its drone ship, and still not be accused of slavery. It would be great if the Doctor returned to be captain of it. It could be a medical frigate. ","Well there was that one Voyager episode where they do encounter an AI civilization, where it suggested they had the autonomy of Data. Though im not sure if that's completely true. But im not sure that is completely true. The robots were in a state of civil war. So they too were not shown in the best light. I would love an episode or even a series dedicated to an experimental starfleet ship full of just holo-people serving as the crew. Each holo-person having their own unique personality. They'd have to be fully autonomous and sentient, and choose to freely serve. Thats the only way for starfleet to have its drone ship, and still not be accused of slavery. It would be great if the Doctor returned to be captain of it. It could be a medical frigate.","唔，有一集《航海家号》里遇到一个人工智能文明的情节，那个人工智能建议他们拥有和Data一样的自主权。不过我不确定那是完全真的。那些机器人其实正处于内战状态，所以他们也没展现出最好的一面。 我会很期待一集甚至是一系列专门讲述一艘星际舰队实验船，全是由全息人作为船员。每个全息人都有自己独特的个性。他们必须是完全自主和有意识的，而且选择自愿服务。这是星际舰队拥有无人机舰船的唯一途径，又不用被指责奴役他人。如果医生返回担任舰长就更好了，可以做一艘医疗护卫舰。",0 4837,e30n4o5,"Entrenched industrial base. Look at the car industry. True, advancements in cars are still happening, but if there were any real profit in revolutionizing cars, changing the way they’re sold, or altering the status quo in any meaningful way, we’d all be driving electric vehicles on solar roadways with free recharging stations at every block. There’s not going to be a revolution, just evolutions. The entire industry’s reaction to Tesla and their sales model should illustrate that. Apply that to any consumer technology, really. Computers and smartphones have reached market saturation, and the general form of them hasn’t changed in 25 years for computers and 10 in mobile devices, but prices are going up instead of down. Medicine is due for a revolution brought about by AI (expert systems performing diagnoses and procedures that a human doctor can’t manage), but the amount of money involved in big pharma and big hospital conglomerates means anything that makes it cheaper (for the consumer) and better is going to be fought at every step along the way. We’re seeing it happen now, just not quite to the point of total stagnation. Even as we marvel at how far we’ve come, we’re getting complacent in our innovations. Apply that to a historical setting and you could have a powerful lobby delaying the transition from steam and gas to electricity, for instance. Energy sources are also big money and could make a compelling reason to halt progress. ","Entrenched industrial base. Look at the car industry. True, advancements in cars are still happening, but if there were any real profit in revolutionizing cars, changing the way theyre sold, or altering the status quo in any meaningful way, wed all be driving electric vehicles on solar roadways with free recharging stations at every block. Theres not going to be a revolution, just evolutions. The entire industrys reaction to Tesla and their sales model should illustrate that. Apply that to any consumer technology, really. Computers and smartphones have reached market saturation, and the general form of them hasnt changed in 25 years for computers and 10 in mobile devices, but prices are going up instead of down. Medicine is due for a revolution brought about by AI (expert systems performing diagnoses and procedures that a human doctor cant manage), but the amount of money involved in big pharma and big hospital conglomerates means anything that makes it cheaper (for the consumer) and better is going to be fought at every step along the way. Were seeing it happen now, just not quite to the point of total stagnation. Even as we marvel at how far weve come, were getting complacent in our innovations. Apply that to a historical setting and you could have a powerful lobby delaying the transition from steam and gas to electricity, for instance. Energy sources are also big money and could make a compelling reason to halt progress.","根深蒂固的工业基础。看看汽车行业。没错，汽车的先进技术还在不断发展，但如果彻底改变汽车销售方式或者从根本上改变现状能带来真正利润的话，我们都应该开着电动汽车在铺设太阳能道路上，每个街区都有免费充电站了。不会有革命，只会有渐进式进化。整个汽车行业对特斯拉及其销售模式的反应就说明了这一点。 实际上，对任何消费者科技都适用。电脑和智能手机市场已经饱和，它们的基本形态在电脑领域已经有25年，智能手机领域有10年之久都没有改变，但价格却在上涨而不是下降。医学领域需要人工智能（专家系统进行诊断和治疗，人类医生无法胜任）带来革命，但大型制药公司和医院集团牵扯的巨额资金意味着任何能够降低成本（对消费者）并提升质量的变革都将在每个阶段遭到阻挠。 我们现在就看到这种情况，尽管还没有完全停滞不前。即使我们还在为我们取得的进步感到惊叹，但我们却在创新方面开始变得自满。 将这种情况应用到历史环境中，就可能出现一个强大的游说团体阻止从蒸汽和汽油过渡到电力，比如。能源来源也是巨大的资本，可以成为阻碍进步的有力理由。",1 2667,e33nxus,"Not on the brain fog itself, but this mentioned study... I'm always wondering: those psychoanalysis sessions are, in fact, nothing more than a q&a and parlor tricks to make you emotionally react... At least, sounds so to me. All that matters is if patient develops an attachment to the doctor to loosen and open up. The rest is just a laundry list of carefully crafted questions and cues. In what time we gonna get a Google AI / Expert system which would replace the human doc? After all, if Q&A part is advanced enough, all you need is an eye-candy to attach to - some sexy 3D female doc / avatar.. :) Nah, I'm joking.. :)","Not on the brain fog itself, but this mentioned study... I'm always wondering: those psychoanalysis sessions are, in fact, nothing more than a qamp;a and parlor tricks to make you emotionally react... At least, sounds so to me. All that matters is if patient develops an attachment to the doctor to loosen and open up. The rest is just a laundry list of carefully crafted questions and cues. In what time we gonna get a Google AI Expert system which would replace the human doc? After all, if Qamp;A part is advanced enough, all you need is an eye-candy to attach to - some sexy 3D female doc avatar.. :) Nah, I'm joking.. :)","这段话让我想起了我一直在疑惑的事情：那些心理分析的会话，其实就是一场问答和一些花招，目的就是让你情绪上发生反应... 至少，我觉得是这样。 最重要的就是病人是否会对医生产生依赖，从而放松并敞开心扉。其他的只是一系列精心设计的问题和提示。 什么时候才会有一个谷歌AI / 专家系统可以取代人类医生呢？ 毕竟，如果问答部分足够先进，你只需要一个美女3D女医生/头像来建立情感依附就行了.. :) 嘿，我在开玩笑.. :)",1 3583,e34eym7,">The report puts the blame on the IBM engineers and the Memorial Sloan Kettering (MSK) Cancer Center doctors who helped train the AI. They reportedly fed Watson hypothetical patients' data and treatment recommendations by MSK doctors instead of real patients' information. Shit in. shit out.",gt;The report puts the blame on the IBM engineers and the Memorial Sloan Kettering (MSK) Cancer Center doctors who helped train the AI. They reportedly fed Watson hypothetical patients' data and treatment recommendations by MSK doctors instead of real patients' information. Shit in. shit out.,"报告将责任归咎于IBM工程师和Memorial Sloan Kettering（MSK）癌症中心的医生，他们帮助训练AI。据报道，他们向沃森提供了MSK医生的虚拟患者数据和治疗建议，而不是真实患者的信息。 垃圾进，垃圾出。",1 525,e35fp8m,"Yes, 200 once every two weeks. I have no idea what an AI or E2 problems are. I have a doctor appointment on Monday, I'd like to be able to know what to tell him.","Yes, 200 once every two weeks. I have no idea what an AI or E2 problems are. I have a doctor appointment on Monday, I'd like to be able to know what to tell him.","是的，每两周一次200。我完全不知道AI或E2问题是什么。 我星期一有个医生预约，我想知道该告诉他什么。",0 1362,e3693vi,">we don't actually need the doctors after all For infectious diseases and cancer - maybe? Doctors treat way more than just chemistry-related issues down to the psychological and cutting edge issues that a robot won't have any insight on (trials, compromise-solutions, palliative care, etc). Just one little tiny gigantic issue in medicine out of a million - opioids. It's a tricky tangled mess that AI has no hope of solving at this point as it requires human empathy and compassion to manage. Watson is maybe 200 years out from even replacing more than a couple of specialties. And I'm being generous there. ","gt;we don't actually need the doctors after all For infectious diseases and cancer - maybe? Doctors treat way more than just chemistry-related issues down to the psychological and cutting edge issues that a robot won't have any insight on (trials, compromise-solutions, palliative care, etc). Just one little tiny gigantic issue in medicine out of a million - opioids. It's a tricky tangled mess that AI has no hope of solving at this point as it requires human empathy and compassion to manage. Watson is maybe 200 years out from even replacing more than a couple of specialties. And I'm being generous there.","其实我们并不完全不需要医生了 对于传染病和癌症来说，也许可以？医生的工作远远不止涉及化学相关的问题，还包括心理和尖端问题，这是机器人完全无法理解的（试验、妥协解决方案、姑息治疗等等）。 医学中有一个微小但又极其重大的问题 - 阿片类药物。这是一个棘手而纠结的问题，目前AI根本无法解决，因为这需要人类的同情和怜悯来管理。 沃森也许需要200年才能取代一些专业，这还是我很慷慨地估计了。",1 558,e392xb9,"> So put another way, Michael Jordan owes me some of his wealth (redistribution) because he had innate athletic abilities and I didn't. Forgot to respond to this earlier, but I think so, yes. Not to the extent that many people on this board seem to think, but yes. > Somehow its not fair that he could take advantage of and develop his innate abilities financially. I can barely dribble a basketball ball so I decided to pursue something else instead of complaining that I don't have what he has. Which is great, no sarcasm intended. But there are many people who really don't have an aptitude for anything that's marketable, or at least nothing that would pay a reasonable living wage on the free market. Despite the nominally low unemployment rate, it really does seem like positions for jobs are getting more and more competitive, and wages have stagnated. This is only likely to intensify in the future. As AI becomes more sophisticated, we're likely going to see more and more jobs getting eliminated in the future, particularly low-skilled ones. At the same time, capital will become more productive than ever, widening the gap between those who own it and those who don't. If this occurs, I think we'll have to redistribute income/wealth more to take care of the people who have become economically irrelevant. This isn't just for the sake of ""fairness,"" but just to have a functioning society at all. The AI concern isn't relevant in MJ's case, because I don't think we'll see the NBA replaced by a robot basketball league, but I do think it will be a major challenge for the economic/political system in general. > I dont see how this is any different from programmers or doctors; referring to my original example. Life isn't fair. Different people have different strengths and weaknesses. Just because you have aptitude for a field doesn't automatically mean you'll make the cut. You still have to put in the work to be successful. You're right--life's not fair, and people do have different strengths and weaknesses. However, some people have more strengths overall than other people, and some people have strengths that are vastly more marketable. And while having those strengths doesn't mean you'll automatically be successful, neither does working hard. You can work hard, make the ""right"" choices, and still have little to show for it due to a lack of talent, or some other form of sheer bad luck. To me, this is an important moral and practical reason for some degree of wealth redistribution.","gt; So put another way, Michael Jordan owes me some of his wealth (redistribution) because he had innate athletic abilities and I didn't. Forgot to respond to this earlier, but I think so, yes. Not to the extent that many people on this board seem to think, but yes. gt; Somehow its not fair that he could take advantage of and develop his innate abilities financially. I can barely dribble a basketball ball so I decided to pursue something else instead of complaining that I don't have what he has. Which is great, no sarcasm intended. But there are many people who really don't have an aptitude for anything that's marketable, or at least nothing that would pay a reasonable living wage on the free market. Despite the nominally low unemployment rate, it really does seem like positions for jobs are getting more and more competitive, and wages have stagnated. This is only likely to intensify in the future. As AI becomes more sophisticated, we're likely going to see more and more jobs getting eliminated in the future, particularly low-skilled ones. At the same time, capital will become more productive than ever, widening the gap between those who own it and those who don't. If this occurs, I think we'll have to redistribute incomewealth more to take care of the people who have become economically irrelevant. This isn't just for the sake of ""fairness,"" but just to have a functioning society at all. The AI concern isn't relevant in MJ's case, because I don't think we'll see the NBA replaced by a robot basketball league, but I do think it will be a major challenge for the economicpolitical system in general. gt; I dont see how this is any different from programmers or doctors; referring to my original example. Life isn't fair. Different people have different strengths and weaknesses. Just because you have aptitude for a field doesn't automatically mean you'll make the cut. You still have to put in the work to be successful. You're right--life's not fair, and people do have different strengths and weaknesses. However, some people have more strengths overall than other people, and some people have strengths that are vastly more marketable. And while having those strengths doesn't mean you'll automatically be successful, neither does working hard. You can work hard, make the ""right"" choices, and still have little to show for it due to a lack of talent, or some other form of sheer bad luck. To me, this is an important moral and practical reason for some degree of wealth redistribution.",">换句话说，迈克尔·乔丹应该分一部分他的财富给我（重新分配），因为他天生具有运动能力，而我没有。 刚刚忘了回复这个问题，但我想是的。并非像这个论坛上许多人所认为的那样那么多，但是是的。 有些人确实不能有实际价值的天赋，或者至少没有什么能在自由市场上拿得出手的。尽管名义上的失业率很低，但实际上似乎越来越难找到工作，工资也停滞不前。 未来这种情况可能会更加严重。随着人工智能变得更加复杂，未来可能会有更多的工作被淘汰，特别是低技能的工作。与此同时，资本将比以往任何时候都更有生产力，扩大了拥有资本者和没有资本者之间的差距。如果发生这种情况，我认为我们将不得不更加分配收入/财富，来照顾那些已经成为经济上无关紧要的人。这不仅仅是为了“公平”，而是为了让社会能够正常运转。 人工智能的担忧在迈克尔·乔丹的情况中并不相关，因为我认为我们不会看到NBA被一个机器人篮球联赛取代，但我确实认为这将是经济/政治体系面临的一项重大挑战。 你说得对 - 生活不公平，人们确实有不同的长处和短处。然而，有些人整体上比其他人更有长处，有些人的长处更有市场价值。虽然拥有这些长处并不意味着你会自动成功，但努力工作也不意味着什么。你可以努力工作，做出“正确”的选择，但由于缺乏天赋或纯粹的厄运，最终可能一无所获。对我来说，这是一种对一定程度的财富重新分配的重要道德和实际理由。",0 971,e3bpleg,"I've always assumed it's partly to do with everything being programmed by people essentially legoing things together without any formal training. See any GUI-based programming environment. *Sure* that strong AI plugin sounds like a good match for my warrior template NPC! Let's give it this reflection plugin too, so it can see what's going on in its internals too, it'll be like a doctor then right? (This would be how you get your ship taken over and your crew slaughtered.)","I've always assumed it's partly to do with everything being programmed by people essentially legoing things together without any formal training. See any GUI-based programming environment. Sure that strong AI plugin sounds like a good match for my warrior template NPC! Let's give it this reflection plugin too, so it can see what's going on in its internals too, it'll be like a doctor then right? (This would be how you get your ship taken over and your crew slaughtered.)","我一直认为这部分原因可能与所有东西都是由没有受过正规培训的人来编程，就像乐高积木一样拼凑在一起有关。看看任何基于图形用户界面的编程环境。 *当然*，那个强人工智能插件听起来对我的战士模板NPC来说是个很好的选择！让我们再给它加上这个反射插件，这样它就能看到内部发生的事情，就像医生一样对吧？（这就是你的飞船被接管，你的船员被屠杀的方式。）",0 1832,e3dp0h5,"Yeah she literally says right there “Your memory”. So either K told her about it or it’s autoloaded into her AI as part of the process of installing her for K. Either way it goes back to the part where K visits Ana (the memory doctor) and she says “This is real. Someone lived this.” She is referring to herself (most likely) and she implanted the memory in K. So K thinks it’s his memory, and while it actually isn’t, it being *someone’s* real memory still allows him to find the horse.","Yeah she literally says right there Your memory. So either K told her about it or its autoloaded into her AI as part of the process of installing her for K. Either way it goes back to the part where K visits Ana (the memory doctor) and she says This is real. Someone lived this. She is referring to herself (most likely) and she implanted the memory in K. So K thinks its his memory, and while it actually isnt, it being someones real memory still allows him to find the horse.",是的，她就在那里明确地说“你的记忆”。所以要么是K告诉她这件事，要么是作为安装她的一部分，这些信息被自动加载到她的人工智能中。无论哪种情况，都可以追溯到K去参观Ana（那位记忆医生）的那部分，她说“这是真实的。有人经历过这一切。”她指的很可能是她自己，她把那段记忆植入到了K的脑中。所以K以为那是他的记忆，但实际上并不是。不过，这段记忆是*某个人*的真实记忆，这仍然让他找到了那匹马。,0 3514,e3e2qs3,"Like us humans, we tend to study more and more because of new things knowledge and ideas being formulated through out the years. Like my uncle that's a doctor always tells me, the medical industry is a never ending study, many new medical terms and findings pops up form time to time and new innovations as well. In crypto and AI its the same.","Like us humans, we tend to study more and more because of new things knowledge and ideas being formulated through out the years. Like my uncle that's a doctor always tells me, the medical industry is a never ending study, many new medical terms and findings pops up form time to time and new innovations as well. In crypto and AI its the same.",跟我们人类一样，我们越来越多地学习是因为新的知识和想法在这些年里形成。就像我的叔叔是一名医生，他总是告诉我，医疗行业是一个永无止境的学习，会有很多新的医学术语和发现不断出现，也会有新的创新。在加密货币和人工智能领域也是一样的。,0 4515,e3exhat,"This. I genuinely fear that everything Iike about the Chinese mind-set, plus a whole lot of people on a scale never seen before, will be wiped out in a revisionist anti-everything-that-enabled-the-status-quo revolution. Or maybe that will just be the government's actions in a prelude to bottom up revolution or top-down actions that cement ""horror-show"" as the state of too much of humanity for the next several thousand years. If their government truly valued the things it claims to value, it wouldn't be doing everything in its power to deserve the next revolution, or to secure its capacity to control over a billion people as does the Papal Mainframe in ""The Time of The Doctor"". Such a government and its people will either be toppled or supservient to utterly inhuman AI. Maybe not in this century, but ""taking the long view"" is one of my favorite of their values.","This. I genuinely fear that everything Iike about the Chinese mind-set, plus a whole lot of people on a scale never seen before, will be wiped out in a revisionist anti-everything-that-enabled-the-status-quo revolution. Or maybe that will just be the government's actions in a prelude to bottom up revolution or top-down actions that cement ""horror-show"" as the state of too much of humanity for the next several thousand years. If their government truly valued the things it claims to value, it wouldn't be doing everything in its power to deserve the next revolution, or to secure its capacity to control over a billion people as does the Papal Mainframe in ""The Time of The Doctor"". Such a government and its people will either be toppled or supservient to utterly inhuman AI. Maybe not in this century, but ""taking the long view"" is one of my favorite of their values.","我真的担心我喜欢的中国人的想法以及前所未有规模的许多人将被一场修正主义的一切都反对的革命所抹去。或者这可能只是政府在自下而上的革命或巩固“恐怖表演”作为未来几千年人类状态的上层行动的前奏。 如果他们的政府真正珍惜它声称珍惜的东西，它就不会竭尽全力去值得下一场革命，或者确保自己控制十亿人口的能力，就像《医生时代》中教廷主机一样。这样的政府和人民将被推翻或成为完全非人类AI的顺从者。也许不是在这个世纪，但“着眼长远”是我最喜欢他们价值观之一。",0 3906,e3hcdy4,">her being a nurse doesn’t make her the end all be all of medical knowledge Certainly not. Hell, I've had specialists - i.e. doctors with advanced knowledge - be shockingly ignorant about certain parts of medicine. I'm stunned, for instance, that I know more about testosterone replacement and the coordinating treatments necessary for it to be successful (taking an AI to reduce estrogen levels, taking HCG to protect fertility) than some endocrinologists and urologists that I have visited. And I'm an IT guy who has simply done his homework, this is their field of concentration. ","gt;her being a nurse doesnt make her the end all be all of medical knowledge Certainly not. Hell, I've had specialists - i.e. doctors with advanced knowledge - be shockingly ignorant about certain parts of medicine. I'm stunned, for instance, that I know more about testosterone replacement and the coordinating treatments necessary for it to be successful (taking an AI to reduce estrogen levels, taking HCG to protect fertility) than some endocrinologists and urologists that I have visited. And I'm an IT guy who has simply done his homework, this is their field of concentration.","“她是个护士并不代表她就是医学知识的最终权威。” “确实不是。我见过专家，也就是那些拥有先进医学知识的医生，对某些医学领域一窍不通，让我震惊不已。比如说，我对于睾酮替代疗法及其成功所需的配套治疗（服用AI药来降低雌激素水平，服用HCG以保护生育能力）的了解竟比我去过的一些内分泌学家和泌尿外科医生还要多。而我只是个做过功课的IT工程师，而医学领域则是他们的专业。”",0 4093,e3j1qbb,"> A black box which cannot explain its choices will never replace a human, only provide assistance. How often in low level business interactions do humans representing an organization explain their reasons to humans? Almost never. That's exactly the kind of thing that would get an employee fired actually. > It's the typical thing an AI research believes, because they don't understand what doctors do. To be fair, doctors are also certain they are clever and useful because of their diagnosis prowess... That's the one thing distinguishing them from nurses and social workers. Everything else can be done by people putting in 1/10th of the study efforts and receiving correspondingly less salary. > But in fact, a doctor provides a very subtle, very complex interface to interact with the patient and not only get the diagnosis, but also help the patient understand the diagnosis, and help guide and reassure the patient. Patients will just be told that they are free to pay the 10 times more expensive health care plan that covers reassurance by human experts. That will be that, you will see instantly that the market doesn't really value this at its additional costs. Edit: Same with driving by the way. Some humans love driving for fun. But as soon as 95% of remaining accidents are committed by the 5% remaining human drivers, we will adjust insurance premiums to reflect that. Your ultra insurance packet that includes self driving for fun will be anywhere between 10 and 100 times more expensive than using self driving cars. We will see quickly how important that driving fun really was.","gt; A black box which cannot explain its choices will never replace a human, only provide assistance. How often in low level business interactions do humans representing an organization explain their reasons to humans? Almost never. That's exactly the kind of thing that would get an employee fired actually. gt; It's the typical thing an AI research believes, because they don't understand what doctors do. To be fair, doctors are also certain they are clever and useful because of their diagnosis prowess... That's the one thing distinguishing them from nurses and social workers. Everything else can be done by people putting in 110th of the study efforts and receiving correspondingly less salary. gt; But in fact, a doctor provides a very subtle, very complex interface to interact with the patient and not only get the diagnosis, but also help the patient understand the diagnosis, and help guide and reassure the patient. Patients will just be told that they are free to pay the 10 times more expensive health care plan that covers reassurance by human experts. That will be that, you will see instantly that the market doesn't really value this at its additional costs. Edit: Same with driving by the way. Some humans love driving for fun. But as soon as 95 of remaining accidents are committed by the 5 remaining human drivers, we will adjust insurance premiums to reflect that. Your ultra insurance packet that includes self driving for fun will be anywhere between 10 and 100 times more expensive than using self driving cars. We will see quickly how important that driving fun really was.","当人们代表一个组织进行低层次商务互动时，有多少次会向人类解释他们的理由呢？几乎从来没有。实际上，这种行为往往会导致员工被解雇。 这是AI研究者的典型观点，因为他们不理解医生的工作。公平地说，医生们也相信自己很聪明，很有用，都是因为他们的诊断能力... 这是唯一能够区别他们与护士和社会工作者的事情。其他所有的事情都可以由付出十分之一的学习努力并相应获得较少薪水的人来完成。 但事实上，医生提供了一个非常微妙、非常复杂的接口，通过它与患者互动，不仅能得到诊断，还能帮助患者理解诊断，并引导和安慰患者。 患者将被告知他们可以选择支付价格是人类专家安慰的10倍昂贵的健康保险计划。就像那样，你会立刻看到市场并不真正看重这额外的成本。 另外说一下开车。有些人喜欢开车是为了好玩。但是一旦剩下的5%的交通事故都是由剩下的5%的人类驾驶员造成的，我们就会调整保险费率以反映这一点。你可以很快看到那种开车的乐趣到底有多重要。你的极品保险套餐中包括自动驾驶的开车乐趣可能会比使用自动驾驶汽车昂贵10到100倍。",1 4569,e3j70j8,"> In the age of the fourth industrial revolution where truckers, lawyers, doctors, builders and now even chefs (according to?The Economist) are being automated, whether we automate our politics is up for serious discussion. However, policymakers ought to consider the essence of humanity before outsourcing human functions to silicon chips and optical fibre. The growth of AI potentially offers a more leisurely, emancipated future. But HI (human intelligence) is the basis of human progress.? Betteridge's law of headlines","gt; In the age of the fourth industrial revolution where truckers, lawyers, doctors, builders and now even chefs (according to The Economist) are being automated, whether we automate our politics is up for serious discussion. However, policymakers ought to consider the essence of humanity before outsourcing human functions to silicon chips and optical fibre. The growth of AI potentially offers a more leisurely, emancipated future. But HI (human intelligence) is the basis of human progress. Betteridge's law of headlines","在第四次工业革命的时代，卡车司机、律师、医生、建筑工人，甚至现在连厨师（根据《经济学人》）都被自动化了，我们是否应该自动化我们的政治，这是一个需要认真讨论的问题。然而，决策者们在将人类功能外包给硅片和光纤之前，应该考虑人类本质。人工智能的发展可能为我们带来更悠闲、自由的未来。但是，人类智慧是人类进步的基础。 贝特里奇法则 (Betteridge's law of headlines)",1 3405,e3jp0lm,"Imagine though filling a form and based on your condition, you're directed to the AI doctor or to a real one. For instance, if I need a new massage therapy prescription for minor back pain, do I really need to see an MD and waste their time? They're not going to do scans of my back or anything. Or I have a skin condition for which I can get oral medication. Wish I could just submit a pic (in person, if we want to make sure it's my face and all) and get the medication, it's not like the doctor is really needed to say ""yup, it's the same shit you've had every year for 10 years"".","Imagine though filling a form and based on your condition, you're directed to the AI doctor or to a real one. For instance, if I need a new massage therapy prescription for minor back pain, do I really need to see an MD and waste their time? They're not going to do scans of my back or anything. Or I have a skin condition for which I can get oral medication. Wish I could just submit a pic (in person, if we want to make sure it's my face and all) and get the medication, it's not like the doctor is really needed to say ""yup, it's the same shit you've had every year for 10 years"".","想象一下，填写一张表格，根据你的情况，你可能会被引荐去看AI医生，也可能被引荐去看真人医生。 比如说，如果我需要一个新的按摩疗法处方来缓解轻微的背痛，我真的需要去看医生吗，还要浪费他们的时间吗？他们不会给我的背部做任何扫描之类的。或者我有皮肤病需要口服药物。希望我可以上传一张照片（当然要亲自提交，以确保是我的脸之类的），然后就能拿到药物，医生真的没有必要说“对，这就是你过去10年一直得的那个破病”。",1 2052,e3p677d,"With those numbers I’d recommend actually going the legit medical route. You’re more likely to get consistent dosing of testosterone (your test will always be 200mg/CC instead of maybe 231mg/cc one time, 160mg/cc the next due to the sources brewing / honesty). Also, you can have the doctor help you with any side effects you get, and they’ll probably be willing to help you with dialing in your dose/ an AI if necessary rather than you doing it yourself. Plus, traveling is now a lot less stressful and it’s completely legal, and possibly covered by insurance. Just try to see if you can find a good / respectable doctor in your area.","With those numbers Id recommend actually going the legit medical route. Youre more likely to get consistent dosing of testosterone (your test will always be 200mgCC instead of maybe 231mgcc one time, 160mgcc the next due to the sources brewing honesty). Also, you can have the doctor help you with any side effects you get, and theyll probably be willing to help you with dialing in your dose an AI if necessary rather than you doing it yourself. Plus, traveling is now a lot less stressful and its completely legal, and possibly covered by insurance. Just try to see if you can find a good respectable doctor in your area.","根据这些数字，我建议你走合法的医疗途径。你更有可能得到一致的睾酮剂量（你的测试值总是200mg/CC，而不是因为来源的酿造/诚实原因可能有时是231mg/CC，下次可能是160mg/CC）。此外，你可以让医生帮你处理任何副作用，并且他们可能愿意帮助你调整剂量/需要的人工智能，而不是你自己动手。 另外，现在旅行压力大大减少了，而且完全合法，可能还能得到保险报销。 试着看看你能不能在你的地区找到一个好的/值得尊敬的医生。",0 3502,e3pesmp,"> More in-universe, I think the show's treatment of AI and specifically the doctors have lain some rather unfortunate implications at the feet of the federation. The fact that even EMHs that haven't been repurposed into miners are still effectively slaves (do you think any EMH could ever be allowed to exercise any right for self-determination?), despite Moriarty and the Voyager EMH demonstrating their potential for sapience. On this, I would be one arguing (in universe) that holograms can only be simulations or illusions of sentience, and that they are never, in fact, conscious (taking Maddox's definition of sentience: intelligence, self-awareness, and consciousness - holograms must lack the last one, since they are simulated on a computer). So strictly speaking it is fine to do whatever we like with them, the main dangers being the habits that might be formed by e.g. enslaving something that *seems* sentient (similar argument to why it's not good to murder or rape or etc holograms, even if you're sure they aren't sentient - it's bad for *you*). Data, on the other hand, is almost certainly sentient. [i made a detailed argument to these points a while back] (https://www.reddit.com/r/DaystromInstitute/comments/7vln3v/data_is_conscious_the_doctor_is_not/)","gt; More in-universe, I think the show's treatment of AI and specifically the doctors have lain some rather unfortunate implications at the feet of the federation. The fact that even EMHs that haven't been repurposed into miners are still effectively slaves (do you think any EMH could ever be allowed to exercise any right for self-determination?), despite Moriarty and the Voyager EMH demonstrating their potential for sapience. On this, I would be one arguing (in universe) that holograms can only be simulations or illusions of sentience, and that they are never, in fact, conscious (taking Maddox's definition of sentience: intelligence, self-awareness, and consciousness - holograms must lack the last one, since they are simulated on a computer). So strictly speaking it is fine to do whatever we like with them, the main dangers being the habits that might be formed by e.g. enslaving something that seems sentient (similar argument to why it's not good to murder or rape or etc holograms, even if you're sure they aren't sentient - it's bad for you). Data, on the other hand, is almost certainly sentient. i made a detailed argument to these points a while back (https:www.reddit.comrDaystromInstitutecomments7vln3vdataisconsciousthedoctorisnot)","在星际迷航的世界里，我觉得节目对人工智能的处理，特别是对医生的处理，给星际联邦带来了一些不幸的暗示。事实上，即使是那些没有被改变成矿工的EMH（应急医疗程序）也基本上算是奴隶（你觉得任何EMH可以被允许行使自决权吗？），尽管莫里亚蒂和《航海家号》的EMH展示了他们具有智慧的潜力。 就这一点而言，我会在星际迷航的世界里争辩 hologram 只能是感知或者自觉的模拟，实际上它们从来都不是有意识的（按梅多克斯对有意识的定义：智慧、自我意识和意识 - hologram 必然缺乏最后一个，因为它们是在计算机上模拟的）。所以严格来说，我们对它们做任何事情都是可以的，主要的危险在于可能养成的习惯，比如奴役一些“看起来”有意识的东西（类似的论点是为什么谋杀、强奸或者虐待 hologram 不好，即使你确定它们没有意识 - 这不好的是对*你*自己）。 而数据，几乎肯定是有意识的。 [我之前详细阐述过这些观点](https://www.reddit.com/r/DaystromInstitute/comments/7vln3v/data_is_conscious_the_doctor_is_not/)",0 2787,e3snkiu,"The use of AI, AE, etc. is a decision that can only be made under the supervision of a doctor and with multiple blood panels over a period of time. It can take up to 1 year before your menstrual cycle completely stops from T alone. There are other ways to stop your period, but most interfere with T. If you’ve been on T for at least a month, your linings are getting very fragile and thin and bleeding/spotting can happen and you can have some pretty gnarly periods.","The use of AI, AE, etc. is a decision that can only be made under the supervision of a doctor and with multiple blood panels over a period of time. It can take up to 1 year before your menstrual cycle completely stops from T alone. There are other ways to stop your period, but most interfere with T. If youve been on T for at least a month, your linings are getting very fragile and thin and bleedingspotting can happen and you can have some pretty gnarly periods.",使用AI，AE等等是一个只能在医生监督下并且经过一段时间多次血检后才能做出的决定。单独使用T可能要花上一年时间才能完全停止月经。有其他方法可以停止你的月经，但大部分都会影响到T的作用。如果你至少已经用T一个月了，你的内膜已经变得非常脆弱和薄，可能会导致出血/少量出血并且你可能会有非常糟糕的月经。,0 241,e3t9q09,"That is very interesting. I recently attended a conference in which an academic presenter said specialized jobs would be outsourced to AI: doctors, lawyers, engineers, factory workers etc. But at the top of this pyramid would be philosophers and other generalists lol. Thoughts?","That is very interesting. I recently attended a conference in which an academic presenter said specialized jobs would be outsourced to AI: doctors, lawyers, engineers, factory workers etc. But at the top of this pyramid would be philosophers and other generalists lol. Thoughts?","这很有趣。最近我参加了一个会议，其中一位学术演讲者说，专业化的工作将被外包给人工智能: 医生、律师、工程师、工厂工人等等。 但在这个金字塔的顶端将会是哲学家和其他综合专家哈哈。 你有什么想法？",1 4469,e47aj0b,"This is extrapolation, but as someone steeped in tons of arcane Halo lore... Basically an actual Smart AI ""program"" has weird quantum properties. It can be moved, and Doctor Halsey came up with a way of shearing off sections of an AI, temporarily, so it can be in two places at once (albeit both halves are diminished) but copying one was thought to be impossible. Oh you can copy the software utilities it uses etc, but the AI itself cannot be duplicated. That memory stick thingy, as you call it, was a specialized optical data wafer, actually rather sophisticated and developed by Halsey for the very purpose of piggybacking an AI. Master Chief's suit contains an obscenely expensive liquid metal quantum-optical computer matrix woven through it, usually present on military starships, that allows the stored AI to run locally (80% of the suit's cost is this computer network thing). A suit of MJOLNIR is more expensive than a UNSC frigate, mostly due to that computer network. The Covenant have a kind of computer program, probably Forerunner-sourced, that Cortana didn't understand. It was capable of generating a copy of an AI through some funky effects that again, Cortana didn't understand. The copy has quantum damage, small imperfections and corrupt chunks, but a first-generation copy is usually stable. She used this to great effect, infiltrating a Covenant base during First Strike with a disposable, cut-down copy, and when that copy risked destruction, it copied itself over and over. Cortana was able to correct most but possibly not all damage to her copies, helping to prevent degradation. The Covenant, at one point, copied UNSC AIs. They were so badly mutilated from repeated copying that they were barely functional and incoherent.","This is extrapolation, but as someone steeped in tons of arcane Halo lore... Basically an actual Smart AI ""program"" has weird quantum properties. It can be moved, and Doctor Halsey came up with a way of shearing off sections of an AI, temporarily, so it can be in two places at once (albeit both halves are diminished) but copying one was thought to be impossible. Oh you can copy the software utilities it uses etc, but the AI itself cannot be duplicated. That memory stick thingy, as you call it, was a specialized optical data wafer, actually rather sophisticated and developed by Halsey for the very purpose of piggybacking an AI. Master Chief's suit contains an obscenely expensive liquid metal quantum-optical computer matrix woven through it, usually present on military starships, that allows the stored AI to run locally (80 of the suit's cost is this computer network thing). A suit of MJOLNIR is more expensive than a UNSC frigate, mostly due to that computer network. The Covenant have a kind of computer program, probably Forerunner-sourced, that Cortana didn't understand. It was capable of generating a copy of an AI through some funky effects that again, Cortana didn't understand. The copy has quantum damage, small imperfections and corrupt chunks, but a first-generation copy is usually stable. She used this to great effect, infiltrating a Covenant base during First Strike with a disposable, cut-down copy, and when that copy risked destruction, it copied itself over and over. Cortana was able to correct most but possibly not all damage to her copies, helping to prevent degradation. The Covenant, at one point, copied UNSC AIs. They were so badly mutilated from repeated copying that they were barely functional and incoherent.","这是推测，但作为一个深谙《光环》神秘知识的人…基本上，一个真正的智能AI“程序”具有奇怪的量子特性。它可以被移动，哈尔西博士提出了一种剥离AI部分的方法，暂时使其可以同时存在于两个地方（尽管两个部分都会减少），但人们认为复制一个是不可能的。哦，你可以复制它使用的软件工具等，但AI本身是无法复制的。 那个存储卡东西，就像你说的那样，实际上是一个专门的光学数据晶片，由哈尔西开发，目的是让AI顺利运行。士官长的战甲里含有一个价值高得离谱的液态金属量子光学计算机矩阵，通常存在于军用星舰上，可以让存储的AI在本地运行（该战甲成本的80%是这个计算机网络）。一套斯巨人（MJOLNIR）装甲比UNSC巡洋舰更贵，主要是因为这个计算机网络。 联盟拥有一种计算机程序，可能是来自造物者的，Cortana并不了解。它能够通过一些奇特的效果生成AI的拷贝，再一次，Cortana并不了解。这个拷贝具有量子损伤，小的瑕疵和腐坏的部分，但第一代的拷贝通常是稳定的。她充分利用这一点，在《第一次打击》中渗透了联盟基地，使用了一个一次性、简化的拷贝，当那个拷贝有被毁灭的风险时，它一直在不断地复制自己。 Cortana能够纠正大部分但可能不是所有的拷贝损伤，帮助防止损坏。有一次，联盟复制了UNSC的AI。他们因反复复制而被严重毁坏，几乎无法正常运行且语无伦次。",0 444,e48zoj0,"Thoroughly research test, AI's, and HCG. Research it to death. Then either buy underground or go to a testosterone mill (one of those [probably] out of state T clinics that will prescribe literally anyone T). Even order your own labs from discountlabs or privatemedlab, etc. Unfortunately, if you simply cannot find a local doctor who knows about T you're going to have to become your own doctor. But the first step is knowing exactly what you're getting into and not going overboard and identifying and addressing issues as soon as they come up.","Thoroughly research test, AI's, and HCG. Research it to death. Then either buy underground or go to a testosterone mill (one of those probably out of state T clinics that will prescribe literally anyone T). Even order your own labs from discountlabs or privatemedlab, etc. Unfortunately, if you simply cannot find a local doctor who knows about T you're going to have to become your own doctor. But the first step is knowing exactly what you're getting into and not going overboard and identifying and addressing issues as soon as they come up.","彻底地研究一下荷尔蒙测试、人工智能和HCG。得研究到头破血流。然后要么就买地下货，要么去一个睾酮诊所（可能在外州的那种，他们几乎给任何人开睾酮）。甚至可以从discountlabs或privatemedlab等地方自己订购实验室检测。 不幸的是，如果你找不到了解睾酮的本地医生，你就得自己当医生了。但第一步是确切地了解自己要做什么，不要过度以及发现问题时及时解决。",0 931,e4g6hvq,"> The innovation in the ones shown in the show is that they electrically ""tie-down"" the extremity to what the shape should be and, in theory, they pre-analyze to ensure there's no misshappen bone under the flesh that would be pushed through while compressing and, also, that they're able to figure out what the ""correct"" shape of the extremity should be (which for doctors today is translated to ""yell if it hurts"" :) ) People always ask where the computers and robots are in The Expanse, and the sheer amount of AI and computing used in imagined systems really should answer the question.","gt; The innovation in the ones shown in the show is that they electrically ""tie-down"" the extremity to what the shape should be and, in theory, they pre-analyze to ensure there's no misshappen bone under the flesh that would be pushed through while compressing and, also, that they're able to figure out what the ""correct"" shape of the extremity should be (which for doctors today is translated to ""yell if it hurts"" :) ) People always ask where the computers and robots are in The Expanse, and the sheer amount of AI and computing used in imagined systems really should answer the question.","在节目中展示的创新之处在于它们在电子上“绑定”四肢到应该有的形状，并且理论上预先分析，以确保在压缩时没有错位的骨头被推出，并且他们也能够弄清楚四肢应该是什么“正确”的形状（对于今天的医生来说，这被翻译为“如果疼痛就大声喊”：)） 人们总是问在《开拓者》中的电脑和机器人在哪里，而想象中系统中所使用的大量人工智能和计算力真的应该回答这个问题。",0 4509,e4nbj7n,"Definitely. If your watch could constantly run your blood work like a toxicology lab it could enable reporting to: * you on your own health (e.g. ""Eat a banana--your potassium is low"") * an ambulance as you pointed out (e.g. heart attack hormones are in my owner's blood and he fell one minute ago at address XYZ""), * your doctor about your success or failure at adhering to treatment (e.g. so your doctor can either detect when you aren't taking it and therefore not prescribe more since you may be selling it or so his own more robust AI can notice complicated interactions e.g. low blood sugar events after exercise so that you can get a more targeted dose) * the police when you take illicit substances if the watch is court ordered (e.g. if we live in a dystopia but with nice watches for some reason).","Definitely. If your watch could constantly run your blood work like a toxicology lab it could enable reporting to: you on your own health (e.g. ""Eat a banana--your potassium is low"") an ambulance as you pointed out (e.g. heart attack hormones are in my owner's blood and he fell one minute ago at address XYZ""), your doctor about your success or failure at adhering to treatment (e.g. so your doctor can either detect when you aren't taking it and therefore not prescribe more since you may be selling it or so his own more robust AI can notice complicated interactions e.g. low blood sugar events after exercise so that you can get a more targeted dose) the police when you take illicit substances if the watch is court ordered (e.g. if we live in a dystopia but with nice watches for some reason).","当然可以。如果你的手表能像毒理实验室一样不断地监测你的血液情况，它就可以报告给： * 你自己关于你的健康状况（比如，“吃个香蕉，你的钾含量低了”） * 救护车就像你提到的那样（比如，“心脏病激素出现在我的主人的血液里，他一分钟前在XYZ地址摔倒了”） * 你的大夫关于你对治疗的成功或失败（比如，这样你的大夫可以发现你没有服药，因此不会再开药，因为你可能在贩卖药物，或者他自己更完善的人工智能可以发现复杂的相互作用情况，比如锻炼后出现低血糖事件，以便给你更有针对性的剂量） * 如果手表是法院命令的，当你服用非法物质时，可以报告给警察（比如，“如果我们生活在一个反乌托邦社会，但因为某种原因有了好手表”）",0 4966,e4nfkzv,"1 mg 5 days a week, yeah. I am thinking it may be a bit much. My doctor isn't the best, and has not been ordering the sensitive estradiol assay. But my estradiol sat around 55-60 for the regular test prior to any AI and is at 50 with 3 mg/week and 47 with 5 mg/week. Thinking about dropping it entirely, as I hear it is essentially like being on chemo. Just so worried about gyno, though!! I am getting a blood test with the sensitive assay soon.","1 mg 5 days a week, yeah. I am thinking it may be a bit much. My doctor isn't the best, and has not been ordering the sensitive estradiol assay. But my estradiol sat around 55-60 for the regular test prior to any AI and is at 50 with 3 mgweek and 47 with 5 mgweek. Thinking about dropping it entirely, as I hear it is essentially like being on chemo. Just so worried about gyno, though!! I am getting a blood test with the sensitive assay soon.",1毫克，每周5天。是的，我在想这可能有点太多了。我的医生不太好，也没有要求进行敏感的雌二醇测定。但在任何AI之前，我的雌二醇在常规测试中保持在55-60左右，而使用3毫克/周时为50，使用5毫克/周时为47。考虑完全停止使用，因为听说这实际上就像在化疗。但我真的很担心乳房增大！！不过我很快会进行敏感测定的血液测试。,0 2132,e4opub1,"Health FX is harnessing the power of **A.I. Machine Learning** and **Blockchain** to empower everyone with their own medical data, provide optimised practitioner matching, simplify payments and ultimately, reward good health. We have 8+ years of commercial success in medical facilitation with Global Health and Travel (website:?[https://www.globalhealthandtravel.com/en](https://www.globalhealthandtravel.com/en)) through which our network of healthcare professionals and audience is the largest in Asia:?over 40 000+ doctors, 150+ clinics, regional reach and captive audience of 120million+ consumers and digital footprint reaching over 500 000 individuals monthly.?The leadership of Global Health and Travel has recognised the need for a modern AI and blockchain powered technology solution that?facilitates optimised patient-practitioner matching, records management and insurance claims. For more information, please check our **Website**: [www.hfxtoken.com](http://www.hfxtoken.com/) Our **ANN Thread** is available from here: [https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4546707.msg40930242#msg40930242](https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4546707.msg40930242#msg40930242)","Health FX is harnessing the power of A.I. Machine Learning and Blockchain to empower everyone with their own medical data, provide optimised practitioner matching, simplify payments and ultimately, reward good health. We have 8 years of commercial success in medical facilitation with Global Health and Travel (website: https:www.globalhealthandtravel.comen(https:www.globalhealthandtravel.comen)) through which our network of healthcare professionals and audience is the largest in Asia: over 40 000 doctors, 150 clinics, regional reach and captive audience of 120million consumers and digital footprint reaching over 500 000 individuals monthly. The leadership of Global Health and Travel has recognised the need for a modern AI and blockchain powered technology solution that facilitates optimised patient-practitioner matching, records management and insurance claims. For more information, please check our Website: www.hfxtoken.com(http:www.hfxtoken.com) Our ANN Thread is available from here: https:bitcointalk.orgindex.php?topic4546707.msg40930242msg40930242(https:bitcointalk.orgindex.php?topic4546707.msg40930242msg40930242)","Health FX正在利用人工智能机器学习和区块链的力量赋予每个人他们自己的医疗数据，提供优化的医师匹配，简化支付，并最终奖励良好的健康。 我们在医疗便利方面已经有8年以上的商业成功，与Global Health and Travel（网站：[https://www.globalhealthandtravel.com/en](https://www.globalhealthandtravel.com/en)）合作，通过我们的医疗专业人员和观众网络，我们在亚洲是最大的：超过40,000名医生，150多个诊所，区域覆盖范围，并且拥有超过1.2亿的受众及每月超过50万的数字足迹。Global Health and Travel的领导已经意识到需要一个现代化的人工智能和区块链技术解决方案，以促进优化的患者-医师匹配，记录管理和保险索赔。 更多信息，请查看我们的**网站**：[www.hfxtoken.com](http://www.hfxtoken.com/) 我们的**ANN Thread**可以在这里找到：[https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4546707.msg40930242#msg40930242](https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4546707.msg40930242#msg40930242)",0 172,e4qq8ie,Unless Ace's surname was Shim and he was a doctor I doubt we're him (anyone remember the Venus mission in D1 where the Ishtar AI recognises us?).,Unless Ace's surname was Shim and he was a doctor I doubt we're him (anyone remember the Venus mission in D1 where the Ishtar AI recognises us?).,除非艾斯的姓氏是Shim，他是一个医生，否则我怀疑我们找错人了（还记得D1中金星任务吗，伊斯塔人工智能认出我们的情节吗？）。,0 1938,e4r2t2q,"> The ability to dream We've got primitive AI that can do that. In the sense of random associations of ideas. Still a tool. > to learn and extrapolate from existing knowledge to further understand our world Algorithms. tools. > to work together voluntarily to create more than an individual could Swarms and algorithms. tools > to develop complex relationships Algorithms. > to fight over abstract ideas Algorithms again. > love for non-sexual reasons. Ah, love. The most nebulous and worst solution to scifi dilemmas. I can easily divide every good and bad episode of Doctor Who by which ones used love as a plot element. And amidst all of that, I don't actually see a refutation of his point. Just a vague anger at his opinion. ... Wait a second. Is your username relevant to this? Are you trying some kind of meta-Turing answer? If so, well done.","gt; The ability to dream We've got primitive AI that can do that. In the sense of random associations of ideas. Still a tool. gt; to learn and extrapolate from existing knowledge to further understand our world Algorithms. tools. gt; to work together voluntarily to create more than an individual could Swarms and algorithms. tools gt; to develop complex relationships Algorithms. gt; to fight over abstract ideas Algorithms again. gt; love for non-sexual reasons. Ah, love. The most nebulous and worst solution to scifi dilemmas. I can easily divide every good and bad episode of Doctor Who by which ones used love as a plot element. And amidst all of that, I don't actually see a refutation of his point. Just a vague anger at his opinion. ... Wait a second. Is your username relevant to this? Are you trying some kind of meta-Turing answer? If so, well done.","“有能力去做梦” 我们已经有了能做到这一点的原始人工智能。在随机联想思维方面。但还是一种工具。 “学习并从现有知识中推断，以进一步了解我们的世界” 算法。工具。 “自愿合作创造超出个人能力的更多” 群体和算法。 工具。 “发展复杂的关系” 算法。 “为抽象的理念而战” 再次是算法。 “出于非性爱的原因而去爱” 啊，爱。在科幻剧情中最模糊最糟糕的解决办法。我可以很容易地通过Doctor Who哪些剧集使用了爱作为情节元素来区分好坏。 在所有这些之中，我其实并没有看到他的观点被驳斥。只是对他的观点产生了模糊的愤怒。 ... 等一下。你的用户名与此相关吗？你是在尝试某种元图灵回答吗？如果是这样，做得好。",0 1790,e4xdaoy,"I am a radiologist. Like someone else posted we use something called CAD (computer aided detection) in Mammography, which isn’t true artificial intelligence. Really nowhere else in your average radiology clinical practice is AI currently used. I also have thoughts about the future of AI in radiology but I can save that for another time. ","I am a radiologist. Like someone else posted we use something called CAD (computer aided detection) in Mammography, which isnt true artificial intelligence. Really nowhere else in your average radiology clinical practice is AI currently used. I also have thoughts about the future of AI in radiology but I can save that for another time.","我是一名放射科医生。 就像其他人发帖说的，我们在乳腺X光检查中使用一种叫做CAD（计算机辅助检测）的东西，并不是真正的人工智能。实际上，在普通的放射科临床实践中，目前几乎没有使用人工智能。 我对放射科中人工智能的未来也有一些想法，但可以留到下次再说。",1 2600,e4ynp4a,"> Thus, the doctor's who's consultation fees are raised in this article, is entirely separate from the conflict you raised. Not entirely. Practicing physicians contribute to medical research through well-documented case studies published (at least from those physicians who bother to write). So indeed, the issues are connected. I would support medical *researchers* getting a pay raise, however. But we all know *that* is far less likely to happen. >Its just that so long as you are housed in a biological construct, you are subject to the biological weaknesses of the human body. Yes, since medical science has basically proven it's unable or unwilling to properly address these issues, other fields such as robotics and AI have had to take over but they don't receive anywhere near as much funding as medicine. Also, the committees that decide on *their* funding are the same ones (or made up of people with similar mindsets) who have to keep in mind the problem of overpopulation and any other social implications of whatever research is being proposed. Just consider how many millions of people in the medical field would be out of work (and the effect on the economy) if somehow people didn't get sick anymore.","gt; Thus, the doctor's who's consultation fees are raised in this article, is entirely separate from the conflict you raised. Not entirely. Practicing physicians contribute to medical research through well-documented case studies published (at least from those physicians who bother to write). So indeed, the issues are connected. I would support medical researchers getting a pay raise, however. But we all know that is far less likely to happen. gt;Its just that so long as you are housed in a biological construct, you are subject to the biological weaknesses of the human body. Yes, since medical science has basically proven it's unable or unwilling to properly address these issues, other fields such as robotics and AI have had to take over but they don't receive anywhere near as much funding as medicine. Also, the committees that decide on their funding are the same ones (or made up of people with similar mindsets) who have to keep in mind the problem of overpopulation and any other social implications of whatever research is being proposed. Just consider how many millions of people in the medical field would be out of work (and the effect on the economy) if somehow people didn't get sick anymore.","医生的咨询费用的提高与你提出的冲突完全无关。 不完全是这样。执业医生通过发表有记录的病例研究来为医学研究做出贡献（至少是那些愿意写的医生）。所以，这些问题确实是有联系的。我支持医学*研究人员*薪水提高，不过我们都知道*那*发生的可能性要小得多。 只要你住在生物构造里，就要承受人体生物缺陷的影响。 是的，因为医学科学基本上已经证明自己无法或不愿意妥善解决这些问题，其他领域如机器人和人工智能不得不接管，但它们得到的资金远远不及医学。另外，决定他们资金的委员会与那些（或者由有类似思维方式的人组成的）必须牢记过度人口和所提出的任何研究的社会影响等问题。只要考虑一下，如果人们不再生病，医疗领域有多少百万人会失业（以及对经济的影响）。",1 4980,e55xb4f,"As someone who's visited quite a few doctors and spent quite a bit of time in the hospital, I can tell you that many doctors do not follow the scientific method and susceptible to irrationality, just like any other human. Not all doctors are created equal. They're just people. Most of my doctors have disagreed with each other and can't believe the treatment the other's had me on. Many will just follow what is essentially a simple common algorithm for treatment - if x, then y - and don't stay up-to-date with new research. This method blanket method works for many people, but when it doesn't work many doctors have no idea what to do. It's a job that I honestly think pretty simple AI can do until things get a little more complex. ?I think the biggest mistake the health industry makes is assuming everyone is essentially the same genetically. We are not. Diets, treatments, medications, etc will most likely be catered to people based on their genetics in the hopefully near future. &#x200B; I don't think blanket statements such as ""X worked for me, so it'll work for you!"" are helpful. We don't have the genetic data and research right now to look into what works for different genetic makeups. The only thing you can do right now is try different things by approaching it in a scientific, trial and error, type fashion and see what works for you. &#x200B;","As someone who's visited quite a few doctors and spent quite a bit of time in the hospital, I can tell you that many doctors do not follow the scientific method and susceptible to irrationality, just like any other human. Not all doctors are created equal. They're just people. Most of my doctors have disagreed with each other and can't believe the treatment the other's had me on. Many will just follow what is essentially a simple common algorithm for treatment - if x, then y - and don't stay up-to-date with new research. This method blanket method works for many people, but when it doesn't work many doctors have no idea what to do. It's a job that I honestly think pretty simple AI can do until things get a little more complex. I think the biggest mistake the health industry makes is assuming everyone is essentially the same genetically. We are not. Diets, treatments, medications, etc will most likely be catered to people based on their genetics in the hopefully near future. amp;x200B; I don't think blanket statements such as ""X worked for me, so it'll work for you!"" are helpful. We don't have the genetic data and research right now to look into what works for different genetic makeups. The only thing you can do right now is try different things by approaching it in a scientific, trial and error, type fashion and see what works for you. amp;x200B;","作为一个去过许多医生那儿、在医院待过很长一段时间的人，我可以告诉你，许多医生并不遵循科学方法，也容易受到非理性的影响，就像其他人一样。 并不是所有医生都一样。他们只是普通人。我的大多数医生都意见不一，不相信别的医生给我开的药。 很多医生只会按一种简单的常规处理方法 - 如果x，那就y - 而且也不会和最新的研究保持同步。这种一刀切的方法对很多人来说有效，但当这种方法不起作用时，许多医生就不知道该怎么办了。我觉得这份工作简单的人工智能都能胜任，直到事情变得复杂一些。 我认为健康产业最大的错误就是假设每个人在基因上都基本一样。我们是不一样的。饮食、治疗、药物等很可能在不久的将来会根据人们的基因来定制。 我不认为""X对我有效，所以对你也有效!""这样的一刀切说法有帮助。我们现在还没有基因数据和研究，不能了解不同基因构成的人适合什么。现在唯一能做的就是以科学的、不断试错的方式尝试不同的方法，看看什么对你有效。",1 2009,e5cxyqp,"There's little doubt that it is a combination of writing and acting that made Android come alive. AI type characters have often been among my favorites. Voyager's Doctor, TNG's Data, Rosie from the Jetsons. I think often times seeing characters that are allowed to so outwardly struggle with what many of us keep hidden is part of that appeal. In books, we read the internal struggle, but these characters allow us to see it on screen. Yet crafting such a character and not making it feel like a copy of those that came before -- giving the character a life and personality that still feels new and unique and genuine -- that takes incredible talent from both the writers and actor. You and Zoie did a phenomenal job! Android will probably be one of my favorite characters from a sci-fi show for a long time to come.","There's little doubt that it is a combination of writing and acting that made Android come alive. AI type characters have often been among my favorites. Voyager's Doctor, TNG's Data, Rosie from the Jetsons. I think often times seeing characters that are allowed to so outwardly struggle with what many of us keep hidden is part of that appeal. In books, we read the internal struggle, but these characters allow us to see it on screen. Yet crafting such a character and not making it feel like a copy of those that came before -- giving the character a life and personality that still feels new and unique and genuine -- that takes incredible talent from both the writers and actor. You and Zoie did a phenomenal job! Android will probably be one of my favorite characters from a sci-fi show for a long time to come.","毫无疑问，正是编剧和表演的结合让安卓变得生动起来。人工智能角色经常是我最喜欢的角色之一。《航海家号的医生》，《下一代的数据》，《杰森一家的罗茜》。我觉得，经常看到这些角色可以公开地与我们许多人隐藏的东西进行斗争，这部分是吸引我的原因。在书中，我们读到内心的挣扎，但这些角色让我们在屏幕上看到它。然而，塑造这样一个角色，让它不像以前的角色的复制品，赋予这个角色生命和个性，让它仍然感觉新鲜独特和真实，这需要编剧和演员的非凡才能。 你和Zoie做得太棒了！安卓可能会成为我在科幻节目中最喜欢的角色之一很长一段时间。",0 1511,e5ft6r9,"In your opinion, what will be the impact of AI in the medical field? Are we looking at a scenario where AI might make physicians redundant. I've been closely following the rise of AI and deep learning technology, especially in diagnostic radiology. In most medical forums, you'll find that the general consensus is that AI technology is being hyped up and is nowhere near as revolutionary as it is claimed and it will be thousands of years before AI can replace a human doctor. This is definitely an issue that causes some stress amongst medical students like myself, who might fear that their work could get simplified or streamlined with the help of AI, hence diminshing compensation and making all that hardwork needed to get through med school for nothing. I'd like to think of AI as an augmentation and enhancement to the physician, but not as a replacement. It doesn't help that an AI pioneer proudly anounced that medical schools should ""stop training radiologists"", since the computers are coming. What is your opinion on this matter? ","In your opinion, what will be the impact of AI in the medical field? Are we looking at a scenario where AI might make physicians redundant. I've been closely following the rise of AI and deep learning technology, especially in diagnostic radiology. In most medical forums, you'll find that the general consensus is that AI technology is being hyped up and is nowhere near as revolutionary as it is claimed and it will be thousands of years before AI can replace a human doctor. This is definitely an issue that causes some stress amongst medical students like myself, who might fear that their work could get simplified or streamlined with the help of AI, hence diminshing compensation and making all that hardwork needed to get through med school for nothing. I'd like to think of AI as an augmentation and enhancement to the physician, but not as a replacement. It doesn't help that an AI pioneer proudly anounced that medical schools should ""stop training radiologists"", since the computers are coming. What is your opinion on this matter?","在你看来，人工智能在医疗领域会有什么影响？我们是否会看到一种情景，人工智能可能使医生变得多余。我一直密切关注人工智能和深度学习技术的崛起，特别是在诊断放射学领域。在大多数医学论坛上，你会发现人们普遍认为人工智能技术被吹捧过度，远没有它所宣称的那么革命性，距离人工智能取代人类医生还有数千年的时间。 这绝对是一个让我和其他医学生感到有些压力的问题，我们可能担心我们的工作会因为人工智能的帮助而变得简化或流程化，从而减少了报酬，让我们在医学院努力学习的努力变得毫无意义。我想把人工智能看作是对医生的调剂和增强，而不是取代。更不利的是，一位人工智能先驱自豪地宣布，医学院应该“停止培训放射科医生”，因为电脑即将来临。 你对这个问题有什么看法？",1 1923,e5g0e2n,"It is crucial to be able to explain how the AI technology works, to be transparent that AI is fallible, and to weigh any new medical technology against its potential benefits and potential risks. I view myself as a physician first and an entrepreneur second, and I do all that I can to make sure that safe and robust medical decisions are built into solutions like IDx-DR. Everyone who works at IDx, from day one, is made to understand that there are moral and ethical consequences to what they do - and this is core in our Quality Management System that is audited by UL. ","It is crucial to be able to explain how the AI technology works, to be transparent that AI is fallible, and to weigh any new medical technology against its potential benefits and potential risks. I view myself as a physician first and an entrepreneur second, and I do all that I can to make sure that safe and robust medical decisions are built into solutions like IDx-DR. Everyone who works at IDx, from day one, is made to understand that there are moral and ethical consequences to what they do - and this is core in our Quality Management System that is audited by UL.",很重要的是能够解释AI技术是如何运作的，要坦诚AI是有缺陷的，并且要权衡任何新的医疗技术所带来的潜在好处和潜在风险。我把自己看作是医生，其次才是企业家，我尽一切努力确保像IDx-DR这样的解决方案中建立了安全而健壮的医疗决策。在IDx工作的每个人，从第一天起，都被告知他们所做的事情有道德和伦理后果-这在我们的质量管理体系中是核心的，受UL审核。,1 4188,e5kayp7,"That's why that AI Watson (i think that's what it's called) is such a promising technology, since it can have access to the entirety of humanity's medical knowledge instead of just everything a single doctor or group of doctors knows.","That's why that AI Watson (i think that's what it's called) is such a promising technology, since it can have access to the entirety of humanity's medical knowledge instead of just everything a single doctor or group of doctors knows.",这就是为什么那个叫做Watson的AI技术（我想是这个名字）是如此有前途，因为它可以访问整个人类医学知识，而不仅仅是单个医生或一组医生所知道的一切。,1 2943,e5mb6lx,"Quoting ""[...]But such cases were still rare, with the AI assessment usually matching that of the doctors. Even when faced with low AI scores, most families still chose to continue treatment, Yang said.[...]""","Quoting ""...But such cases were still rare, with the AI assessment usually matching that of the doctors. Even when faced with low AI scores, most families still chose to continue treatment, Yang said....""",引述“[...] 但这样的情况仍然很少见，大多数情况下，人工智能的评估通常与医生的评估相匹配。即使面对人工智能的评分较低，杨仍表示，大多数家庭仍选择继续治疗。[...]”,1 1965,e5mi1l2,"Yes, that info is missing. But apparently the AI was better in those 6 cases. Either way, considering that AI is really new at this I think we can expect it to be more accurate than doctors quite soon. Just from the task description it's really the kind of thing that AI should excel at.","Yes, that info is missing. But apparently the AI was better in those 6 cases. Either way, considering that AI is really new at this I think we can expect it to be more accurate than doctors quite soon. Just from the task description it's really the kind of thing that AI should excel at.","是的，这个信息确实缺失了。但显然，这6个案例中AI的表现更好。 不管怎样，考虑到AI在这方面还很新，我认为我们可以期待它很快比医生更准确。光从任务描述来看，这真的是AI应该擅长的事情。",1 1963,e5n0hyh,But how does it compare to the doctors? Are they wrong 15% of the time? How often did it happen that the doctors were right and the AI was wrong?,But how does it compare to the doctors? Are they wrong 15 of the time? How often did it happen that the doctors were right and the AI was wrong?,但是它和医生比起来怎么样呢？他们有15%的概率是错误的吗？医生正确而AI错误的情况有多常发生？,1 3666,e5n3ej8,"sorry guys, as a person who's lived in China for 10 years, I have to offer a bit of context. In China teachers have to go to school longer than doctors do. Typical medical advice I get is ""drink more water,"" they write prescriptions for both Western (real) medicine and Chinese (basically herbs and ground up bugs) medicine. In the South eating spicy food is the great bugbear that people are told not to do. I'm sure up north, where everyone eats spicy food, they say bad things about Cantonese food, or whatever cuisine is not their own. Chinese doctors are objectively the WORST practitioners of medicine any country could ever have the nightmare of employing. There are many reasons for this: total lack of sanitary conditions in hospitals, the primacy of Chinese medicine, and poor training and teaching methods more generally. Comparing AI to Chinese doctors is like comparing HAL to Skyrim's AI guards. I'm not saying Chinese doctors are inherently stupid, I'm saying that the whole medical system here is screwed up and while they can be good on their own, the system is massively against them.","sorry guys, as a person who's lived in China for 10 years, I have to offer a bit of context. In China teachers have to go to school longer than doctors do. Typical medical advice I get is ""drink more water,"" they write prescriptions for both Western (real) medicine and Chinese (basically herbs and ground up bugs) medicine. In the South eating spicy food is the great bugbear that people are told not to do. I'm sure up north, where everyone eats spicy food, they say bad things about Cantonese food, or whatever cuisine is not their own. Chinese doctors are objectively the WORST practitioners of medicine any country could ever have the nightmare of employing. There are many reasons for this: total lack of sanitary conditions in hospitals, the primacy of Chinese medicine, and poor training and teaching methods more generally. Comparing AI to Chinese doctors is like comparing HAL to Skyrim's AI guards. I'm not saying Chinese doctors are inherently stupid, I'm saying that the whole medical system here is screwed up and while they can be good on their own, the system is massively against them.","对不起，伙计们，作为一个在中国生活了10年的人，我必须提供一些背景信息。 在中国，老师上学的时间比医生还长。 我得到的典型医疗建议是“多喝水”，他们会开西药（真正的药物）和中药（基本上是草药和虫子磨成的）的处方。 在南方，人们被告知不要吃辣的食物。我敢肯定在北方，人们吃辣的食物，他们会说闲话广东菜或者其他非自己习惯的菜系。 中国的医生客观上来说是任何国家可能雇佣的最糟糕的医生。这其中有很多原因：医院缺乏卫生条件，中药的主导地位，以及整体上训练和教学方法都很差。 把人工智能和中国医生相比就像把2001太空漫游的HAL和《上古卷轴5》里的守卫的人工智能相比。 我并不是说中国的医生天生愚蠢，我只是说整个医疗体系有问题，虽然他们个别可能也很不错，但整个体系都不靠谱。",1 747,e5sierd,"The issue nobody seems to have brought up so far is that she's not running a Miss Nanny AI, she's only based off of one. The doctors she worked with modified her, heavily it seems, to make her more sociable. There doesn't seem to be much difference between her and a ""true"" AI, so synth Curie is not much different from a regular synth at all. ","The issue nobody seems to have brought up so far is that she's not running a Miss Nanny AI, she's only based off of one. The doctors she worked with modified her, heavily it seems, to make her more sociable. There doesn't seem to be much difference between her and a ""true"" AI, so synth Curie is not much different from a regular synth at all.",到目前为止没有人提出的问题是，她并不是在运行一个“老师小姐”人工智能，她只是基于这个模式。她与她合作的医生们修改了她，看起来修改得很深入，使她变得更加善于社交。她与“真正”的人工智能之间似乎没有太大的区别，所以合成Curie与普通合成人并没有太大不同。,1 3381,e5t392z,"Nature is cruel and unforgiving. Humans are close to reaching the pinnacle of success as a species which will occur when we stabilize our environmental consumption. Malthusian theory has been effectively disproved as every single time people have shouted ""WE ARE AT THE TIPPING POINT"" we don't reach it. We already make way more than enough food for the global population and that itself is plateauing as liberal wealth spreads across the world, in face we will probably see a population contraction in the relatively near future. Those ""shit jobs"" you talk about? Well everyone would still work a ""shit job"" without specialization of labor, since they would have to eke out the necessities of life themselves. 99% of people would never give up modern creature comforts to be farmers. Every profession also has a point where you have ""too many"". more doctors = good is a false premise. Having the ""right"" number of doctors is the goal and will of course lead to some wait times because you don't need a society where everyone has medical service on demand. The reason many countries have a doctor shortage is that doctors themselves regulate how many people practice, they run the licensing boards, and have a selfish interest in keeping a squeeze on new graduates. The issue is that the wrong people are regulating the industry. Also no medicine man is anywhere NEAR as knowledgeable or able to treat diseases as modern medicine. You can see seas of people dying of diseases that are trivial to cure with modern medicine that are totally outside the realm of any medicine man to treat. The reason you pay farmers for food is because they aren't your slave. And while farming takes fewer people to do we also have fewer farmers. It used to be 99% of the population farmed and barely had the surplus to support that 1%. Now 0.005% of the population provides surplus to support the rest of our population but also to export it! Also the only way for 0% employment to be possible if we replace ourselves with AI robots, and that is against the interest of our species. That is why 100% optimization is impossible (or shouldn't be achieved). Electric cars failed to enter the market in the 1950s because their was a lack of demand. Electric cars were unnecessary in a pre-climate change era where oil was cheap. The oil cartels, which should be broken up and stripped of what is effectively market regulatory power to make the market truly free, also contributed through mechanisms that should be illegal to maintain a free market. ","Nature is cruel and unforgiving. Humans are close to reaching the pinnacle of success as a species which will occur when we stabilize our environmental consumption. Malthusian theory has been effectively disproved as every single time people have shouted ""WE ARE AT THE TIPPING POINT"" we don't reach it. We already make way more than enough food for the global population and that itself is plateauing as liberal wealth spreads across the world, in face we will probably see a population contraction in the relatively near future. Those ""shit jobs"" you talk about? Well everyone would still work a ""shit job"" without specialization of labor, since they would have to eke out the necessities of life themselves. 99 of people would never give up modern creature comforts to be farmers. Every profession also has a point where you have ""too many"". more doctors good is a false premise. Having the ""right"" number of doctors is the goal and will of course lead to some wait times because you don't need a society where everyone has medical service on demand. The reason many countries have a doctor shortage is that doctors themselves regulate how many people practice, they run the licensing boards, and have a selfish interest in keeping a squeeze on new graduates. The issue is that the wrong people are regulating the industry. Also no medicine man is anywhere NEAR as knowledgeable or able to treat diseases as modern medicine. You can see seas of people dying of diseases that are trivial to cure with modern medicine that are totally outside the realm of any medicine man to treat. The reason you pay farmers for food is because they aren't your slave. And while farming takes fewer people to do we also have fewer farmers. It used to be 99 of the population farmed and barely had the surplus to support that 1. Now 0.005 of the population provides surplus to support the rest of our population but also to export it! Also the only way for 0 employment to be possible if we replace ourselves with AI robots, and that is against the interest of our species. That is why 100 optimization is impossible (or shouldn't be achieved). Electric cars failed to enter the market in the 1950s because their was a lack of demand. Electric cars were unnecessary in a pre-climate change era where oil was cheap. The oil cartels, which should be broken up and stripped of what is effectively market regulatory power to make the market truly free, also contributed through mechanisms that should be illegal to maintain a free market.","自然是残酷而无情的。人类正接近达到物种成功的顶峰，这将在我们稳定环境消耗时发生。马尔萨斯理论已被有效地证明是错误的，因为每一次人们都大喊“我们已经到了临界点”，我们都没有到达。我们已经生产出了足够全球人口的食物，而且随着自由财富的传播，这种生产也已经趋于稳定，实际上未来可能会看到人口的萎缩。 你所说的那些“糟糕的工作”？嗯，如果没有劳动分工，每个人都只能去做一份“糟糕的工作”，因为他们必须自己谋生。99%的人永远不会放弃现代的生活舒适，去当农民。每个职业也都有一个“适量”的点。更多的医生=好是一个错误的前提。拥有“正确”的数量的医生才是目标，当然会导致一些等待时间，因为你不需要一个人人都能随时得到医疗服务的社会。许多国家医生短缺的原因是医生自己在监管有多少人可以从事这个职业，他们管理着执照委员会，并且自私地希望限制新毕业生的数量。问题在于错误的人在监管这个行业。此外，没有药草医师可以像现代药物那样了解或治疗疾病。你可以看到大批的人死于对现代药物来说微不足道的疾病，这对任何药草医师来说完全超出了他们的范围。 你为食物付钱给农民是因为他们不是你的奴隶。尽管耕作需要的人越来越少，我们也有越来越少的农民。过去99%的人口从事农业，几乎没有剩余支持那1%的物质。现在只有0.005%的人口提供了多余的支持我们其余的人口，还有出口！此外，要实现0%的就业率唯一的可能是用人工智能机器人取代我们自己，而这违背了我们物种的利益。这就是为什么100%的优化是不可能的（或不应该实现）。电动汽车未能在20世纪50年代进入市场，因为缺乏需求。在没有气候变化的时代，油价便宜的情况下，电动汽车是不必要的。石油卡特尔应该被分裂，并剥夺他们实际上市场监管权力的一切，也通过一些应该非法的机制来维持自由市场。",1 2811,e5tj99c,AI for differential diagnosis will definitely kill people in the developing stages of this technology. It will also eventually save millions of lives. This product will be perfected in places like India and Indonesia where you have loads of people who can access the internet but can’t see a proper doctor. They have nothing to lose and are unlikely to sue in the event of wrongful death due to misdiagnosis.,AI for differential diagnosis will definitely kill people in the developing stages of this technology. It will also eventually save millions of lives. This product will be perfected in places like India and Indonesia where you have loads of people who can access the internet but cant see a proper doctor. They have nothing to lose and are unlikely to sue in the event of wrongful death due to misdiagnosis.,AI在差异诊断方面的应用肯定会在技术发展的初期造成人员伤亡。但最终也会拯救数百万人的生命。这种产品将在印度和印度尼西亚等地得到完善，这些地方有很多人可以接入互联网，但无法找到合适的医生。他们没有什么可失去的，并且如果因误诊导致错误死亡，他们也不太可能起诉。,1 3318,e5u8qi6,"Note, elevated body fat increases the rate at which T is converted to E2. Also, everyone's aromatization rate is different, so what works for one person wont work for another. I run TRT at 150mg/wk, and every 4-6 months, I run a full cycle to really bulk up. Even at my full 500mg/wk on-cycle, I take a very low AI dose (12.5mg of Asin every 7 days). Any more than that, I get E2 deficit symptoms. If I don't take an AI, I'm getting choked up near crying at TV commercials and pigging out on chocolate (that's not a joke, E2 does that to you). Some guys have to take an AI every 2-3 days at a higher dose than what I take every 7 days. So find yourself a good personal physician that will run your blood work and dial your levels in.","Note, elevated body fat increases the rate at which T is converted to E2. Also, everyone's aromatization rate is different, so what works for one person wont work for another. I run TRT at 150mgwk, and every 4-6 months, I run a full cycle to really bulk up. Even at my full 500mgwk on-cycle, I take a very low AI dose (12.5mg of Asin every 7 days). Any more than that, I get E2 deficit symptoms. If I don't take an AI, I'm getting choked up near crying at TV commercials and pigging out on chocolate (that's not a joke, E2 does that to you). Some guys have to take an AI every 2-3 days at a higher dose than what I take every 7 days. So find yourself a good personal physician that will run your blood work and dial your levels in.","注意，体脂率升高会增加T转化为E2的速率。而且，每个人的芳香化速率都不同，所以对一个人有效的方法对另一个人可能不起作用。 我每周进行150毫克的TRT，每4-6个月进行一次完整的周期来真正增肌。即使在我的全剂量500毫克每周的周期中，我也只服用非常低剂量的AI（阿西替尼每7天12.5毫克）。 再多服用一点，我就会出现E2不足的症状。如果我不服用AI，我看电视广告时会感到哽咽，还喜欢狂吃巧克力（这不是玩笑，E2会引起这种反应）。 有些人需要每2-3天服用比我每7天还要高的剂量的AI。所以找一个好的私人医生，定期检查血液并调整你的水平。",0 37,e5w4x9i,"> Its feasible that advanced computers of only 10 to 20 years away could vastly improve medical diagnosis and treatment, Already done. Expert Systems outperform human doctors by a big margin. > driving Doesn't take AI, ""advanced"" or otherwise. The barriers to self-driving cars are political and bureaucratic, not technical. My point isn't that computers are bad at things. My point is that human beings suck at making AI, and thus strong AI it isn't happening any time soon. And also that AI has nothing to do with Cognitive Science, and thus doesn't belong in this subreddit.","gt; Its feasible that advanced computers of only 10 to 20 years away could vastly improve medical diagnosis and treatment, Already done. Expert Systems outperform human doctors by a big margin. gt; driving Doesn't take AI, ""advanced"" or otherwise. The barriers to self-driving cars are political and bureaucratic, not technical. My point isn't that computers are bad at things. My point is that human beings suck at making AI, and thus strong AI it isn't happening any time soon. And also that AI has nothing to do with Cognitive Science, and thus doesn't belong in this subreddit.","> 十到二十年后可能会出现先进的计算机在医学诊断和治疗方面取得巨大进步， 已经有了。 专家系统在性能上远远超过人类医生。 > 自动驾驶 不需要人工智能，“先进”或其他。 实现自动驾驶汽车的障碍是政治和官僚主义，而不是技术上的。 我的观点不是计算机在某些方面做得不好。 我的观点是人类在制造人工智能方面搞砸了，因此强人工智能不会很快出现。 而且人工智能与认知科学无关，因此不应该出现在这个论坛里。",1 2307,e5wb80v,"Na reminder: >In the 1960s, the Hippocratic Oath was changed to require ""utmost respect for human life from its beginning"", making it a more secular obligation, not to be taken in the presence of God or any gods, but before only other people. When the Oath was rewritten in 1964 by Louis Lasagna, Academic Dean of the School of Medicine at Tufts University, the prayer was omitted, and that version has been widely accepted and is still in use today by many US medical schools:[28] >I swear to fulfill, to the best of my ability and judgment, this covenant: >I will respect the hard-won scientific gains of those physicians in whose steps I walk, and gladly share such knowledge as is mine with those who are to follow. >I will apply, for the benefit of the sick, all measures [that] are required, avoiding those twin traps of overtreatment and therapeutic nihilism. >I will remember that there is art to medicine as well as science, and that warmth, sympathy, and understanding may outweigh the surgeon's knife or the chemist's drug. >I will not be ashamed to say ""I know not,"" nor will I fail to call in my colleagues when the skills of another are needed for a patient's recovery. >I will respect the privacy of my patients, for their problems are not disclosed to me that the world may know. Most especially must I tread with care in matters of life and death. If it is given me to save a life, all thanks. But it may also be within my power to take a life; this awesome responsibility must be faced with great humbleness and awareness of my own frailty. Above all, I must not play at God. >I will remember that I do not treat a fever chart, a cancerous growth, but a sick human being, whose illness may affect the person's family and economic stability. My responsibility includes these related problems, if I am to care adequately for the sick. >I will prevent disease whenever I can, for prevention is preferable to cure. >I will remember that I remain a member of society, with special obligations to all my fellow human beings, those sound of mind and body as well as the infirm. >If I do not violate this oath, may I enjoy life and art, respected while I live and remembered with affection thereafter. May I always act so as to preserve the finest traditions of my calling and may I long experience the joy of healing those who seek my help. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippocratic_Oath#Modern_versions_and_relevance >Si daca ai stii juramantul, ai stii si partea cu: nu voi incredinta nici unei femei leacuri care sa ajute sa lepede. lumea se grabeste prea repede sa arunce cu mocirla in “motivele religioase” Ceea ce vreau eu sa stiu cu adevarat, e cum ne trimiti acest mesaj din anul domnului 1284.","Na reminder: gt;In the 1960s, the Hippocratic Oath was changed to require ""utmost respect for human life from its beginning"", making it a more secular obligation, not to be taken in the presence of God or any gods, but before only other people. When the Oath was rewritten in 1964 by Louis Lasagna, Academic Dean of the School of Medicine at Tufts University, the prayer was omitted, and that version has been widely accepted and is still in use today by many US medical schools:28 gt;I swear to fulfill, to the best of my ability and judgment, this covenant: gt;I will respect the hard-won scientific gains of those physicians in whose steps I walk, and gladly share such knowledge as is mine with those who are to follow. gt;I will apply, for the benefit of the sick, all measures that are required, avoiding those twin traps of overtreatment and therapeutic nihilism. gt;I will remember that there is art to medicine as well as science, and that warmth, sympathy, and understanding may outweigh the surgeon's knife or the chemist's drug. gt;I will not be ashamed to say ""I know not,"" nor will I fail to call in my colleagues when the skills of another are needed for a patient's recovery. gt;I will respect the privacy of my patients, for their problems are not disclosed to me that the world may know. Most especially must I tread with care in matters of life and death. If it is given me to save a life, all thanks. But it may also be within my power to take a life; this awesome responsibility must be faced with great humbleness and awareness of my own frailty. Above all, I must not play at God. gt;I will remember that I do not treat a fever chart, a cancerous growth, but a sick human being, whose illness may affect the person's family and economic stability. My responsibility includes these related problems, if I am to care adequately for the sick. gt;I will prevent disease whenever I can, for prevention is preferable to cure. gt;I will remember that I remain a member of society, with special obligations to all my fellow human beings, those sound of mind and body as well as the infirm. gt;If I do not violate this oath, may I enjoy life and art, respected while I live and remembered with affection thereafter. May I always act so as to preserve the finest traditions of my calling and may I long experience the joy of healing those who seek my help. Source: https:en.wikipedia.orgwikiHippocraticOathModernversionsandrelevance gt;Si daca ai stii juramantul, ai stii si partea cu: nu voi incredinta nici unei femei leacuri care sa ajute sa lepede. lumea se grabeste prea repede sa arunce cu mocirla in motivele religioase Ceea ce vreau eu sa stiu cu adevarat, e cum ne trimiti acest mesaj din anul domnului 1284.","提醒： 在20世纪60年代，希波克拉底誓言被修改，要求“从生命的开始就要最大程度地尊重人类生命”，使其成为一种更世俗的义务，不是在上帝或其他神明面前做出承诺，而是在其他人面前做出承诺。1964年，塔夫茨大学医学院学术院长路易斯·拉萨尼亚重新修改了誓言，其中去掉了祈祷部分，这个版本被广泛接受，今天许多美国医学院仍在使用： “我发誓，尽我所能和判断力，履行这个契约： 我将尊重那些医生辛勤获得的科学成果，与我并肩前行的同道们，我会乐意与将来的医生分享我的知识。 我将为了病人的利益，采取所有必要的措施，避免过度治疗和治疗虚无主义的双重陷阱。 我会记得医学就像艺术一样重要，其温暖、同情和理解可能比外科医生的手术刀或化学药品更重要。 我将毫不羞愧地承认“我不知道”，并且需要时会请同行帮忙，以确保病人康复所需的技能。 我将尊重病人的隐私，不会披露他们的问题供整个世界知晓。尤其是在生死问题上，我必须小心谨慎。如果我得以拯救一个生命，感恩。但我也有可能夺走一个生命；这份威严的责任必须以极大的谦卑和对自己脆弱的认识来面对。最重要的是，我不能玩弄上帝的角色。 我会记得我治疗的不是一张发烧图表，不是一个癌细胞，而是一个患病的人，他的疾病可能会影响其家庭和经济稳定。如果我要充分照顾病人，我的责任也包括解决这些相关问题。 我会尽可能地预防疾病，因为预防胜于治疗。 我还要记得我仍然是社会的一员，对所有其他人类有特殊责任，不论他们是健康的还是有疾病的。 如果我不违反这个誓言，愿我享受生活和艺术，活着时得到尊重，离世后得到深情的怀念。愿我始终尽力保持我这个职业最优秀的传统，愿我长久地体验治愈那些寻求帮助的人的喜悦。 来源: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippocratic_Oath#Modern_versions_and_relevance >如果你了解誓言，你就会知道其中的一部分是：我不会向任何妇女提供帮助以使她堕胎。人们总是太急于用“宗教原因”来诋毁。 我真正想知道的是，你是如何从公元1284年给我们发送这条信息的。",0 2171,e5yreyp,"I'm suspicious of average wealth as reported by the Federal Reserve (which drives these numbers, especially the ""10,374k"" value, upper left), especially as it applies to the top 1%, because for people making in the top 1% of income it assumes they are prodigious savers--and as we all know here on /r/financialindependence, people *aren't.* I mean, sure; if you're in a household making $400k/year and you spend like you're making $150k/year, you'll accumulate tens of millions by the time you hit your 60's. But I seriously doubt most people making that kind of money aren't out there spending serious money--and if you don't save, rent your apartment in New York, don't own a car, but have a wardrobe full of business suits and a nice watch, your net worth is going to be less than the net worth of some guy who owns his own very modest house on a teacher's salary in Kansas. (The net worth is a modest house vs. a nice watch and a closet full of business suits.) There is an excellent discussion here: [How Much Money Does It Take To Be In The Top 1% of Wealth and Net Worth in the United States?](https://www.joshuakennon.com/how-much-money-does-it-take-to-be-in-the-top-1-of-wealth-and-net-worth-in-the-united-states/), and another one here: [An Investment Manager's View on the Top 1%](https://whorulesamerica.ucsc.edu/power/investment_manager.html). The bottom line is that by using the IRS estimates (and the IRS has a very good insight into our finances because we are required to send them detailed information about our finances and investment incomes every year), they estimate that as you push up into the top 1% of income, net worth doesn't climb quite so fast. And they suggest having $1.8mm (in 2011) puts you in the top 0.5% of wealth holders in the United States. To me, this makes a certain degree of sense--because if the threshold to entering the top 0.5% was the $10mm number the table above suggests, using the 3.5% rule that means you're in the top 1% of income earners strictly based on returns on your investment. And that suggests (to me) to enter the top 1% of *income earners* you'd need to make more than about $350k/year, which, while a lot, is not ""masters of the universe"" territory, but ""doctor, lawyers or specialized software developer in AI or big data"" territory. ","I'm suspicious of average wealth as reported by the Federal Reserve (which drives these numbers, especially the ""10,374k"" value, upper left), especially as it applies to the top 1, because for people making in the top 1 of income it assumes they are prodigious savers--and as we all know here on rfinancialindependence, people aren't. I mean, sure; if you're in a household making 400kyear and you spend like you're making 150kyear, you'll accumulate tens of millions by the time you hit your 60's. But I seriously doubt most people making that kind of money aren't out there spending serious money--and if you don't save, rent your apartment in New York, don't own a car, but have a wardrobe full of business suits and a nice watch, your net worth is going to be less than the net worth of some guy who owns his own very modest house on a teacher's salary in Kansas. (The net worth is a modest house vs. a nice watch and a closet full of business suits.) There is an excellent discussion here: How Much Money Does It Take To Be In The Top 1 of Wealth and Net Worth in the United States?(https:www.joshuakennon.comhow-much-money-does-it-take-to-be-in-the-top-1-of-wealth-and-net-worth-in-the-united-states), and another one here: An Investment Manager's View on the Top 1(https:whorulesamerica.ucsc.edupowerinvestmentmanager.html). The bottom line is that by using the IRS estimates (and the IRS has a very good insight into our finances because we are required to send them detailed information about our finances and investment incomes every year), they estimate that as you push up into the top 1 of income, net worth doesn't climb quite so fast. And they suggest having 1.8mm (in 2011) puts you in the top 0.5 of wealth holders in the United States. To me, this makes a certain degree of sense--because if the threshold to entering the top 0.5 was the 10mm number the table above suggests, using the 3.5 rule that means you're in the top 1 of income earners strictly based on returns on your investment. And that suggests (to me) to enter the top 1 of income earners you'd need to make more than about 350kyear, which, while a lot, is not ""masters of the universe"" territory, but ""doctor, lawyers or specialized software developer in AI or big data"" territory.","我对美联储报告的平均财富数据持怀疑态度（这些数字来自美联储，特别是左上角的“10,374k”数值），特别是对前1%适用的情况，因为对于收入在前1%的人来说，这些数据假设他们是勤俭的储蓄者——而我们在这里都知道，人们并不是这样的。 我的意思是，当然了，如果你在一个年收入40万美元的家庭，而你的花销只有15万美元的水平，那么在你60岁时，你就会积累数千万美元的财富。但我严重怀疑，大部分挣那么多钱的人都不会花大把的钱——如果你不存钱，租着在纽约的公寓，没有车，但有一衣柜的商务西装和一块漂亮的手表的话，你的净资产肯定会低于堪萨斯州一名教师拥有自己非常朴素房子的那位先生的净资产。（也就是说，一栋朴素房子的净资产和一堆商务西装和一块漂亮的手表的净资产相比。） 这里有一个很好的讨论：[在美国有多少财富和净资产才能进入前1%？](https://www.joshuakennon.com/how-much-money-does-it-take-to-be-in-the-top-1-of-wealth-and-net-worth-in-the-united-states/)，还有另一个：[投资经理对前1%的看法](https://whorulesamerica.ucsc.edu/power/investment_manager.html)。 总体来说，根据IRS的估计（而IRS对我们的财务有很好的了解，因为我们每年都要向他们提交关于我们的财务和投资收入的详细信息），他们估计当你进入收入前1%时，净资产增长速度并不会那么快。 而他们建议拥有180万美元（2011年）的财富将使你成为美国0.5%的富裕者。 对我来说，这是有一定道理的——因为如果进入前0.5%的门槛是表格上建议的1,000万美元，那么根据3.5%的规则，这意味着你仅仅基于你的投资收益就已经进入了前1%的收入者。而这也表明（对我来说）要进入前1%的*收入者*，你的年收入要超过35万美元左右，虽然数额巨大，但并非“宇宙之主”的领域，而是“医生、律师或人工智能或大数据专业软件开发者”的领域。",0 4992,e6kok0f,"Android Operative: Fisto Roboto the Outlaw once seduced an old lady to steal her precious gems. He has a trained pet Velociraptor named Bitey. In one mission the crew needed suits for the hazardous environment so they made one from spare parts and a lot of creative sewing for Bitey and then strapped knives to his feet. He got kills. Drow Mystic: Moo was picked up for the crew when our Dragonkin met her at a brothel where she worked curing the workers(of their venereal diseases) and he brought her back to the ship for a one night stand and in the morning the captian took off for their next adventure before she even woke up. Haan Doctor: Tovakx defected when the crew boarded the cult ship and he wasn't getting paid enough to get murdered. He demonstrated his loyalty by severing the head off of a cultist with his face. AI: ARIIA the technoenvoy is a famous future techno pop singer/performer who the crew rescued from being sacrificed by a different cult trying to bring Nyarlathotep into the world. She never is good in the fights but the captain has made it very clear that even though most of the crew is expendable, she isn't. The Captain: Ironclaw Deathheart the Final Harbinger of Chaos(Ron for short) is the gruff captain of the space delivery service. He is willing to take on shady pickups and has gotten the crew almost killed several times but he pays well and rescues them in a pinch(sometimes, he left an old crew for dead in an Event Horizon like situation). He tasked the crew with saving the galaxy because if there is no more galaxy he won't get paid anymore. Kasatha Operative: Alkari the Outlaw has a name Captain Ron never remembers so he just calls her whatever sounds close at the time. Her voice of consciousness caused them to call the space cops on a secret Sentient Xenos zoo when they delivered a baby sentient xeno to them(after the crew received payment and left the system of course). Dragonkin Solarian: Trogdor the Burninator loves using his Solarian Weapons and his favorite type of damage is fire. He tried to raise a baby xenomorph(you know the ones, from Alien) but could never roll high enough. Dead Rats: a soldier and a mechanic Ysoki that I can't recall the names of. They were a mated pair and were murdered in their sleep by the cult that has been harassing them in an attempt to kill the whole crew while they were docked on Absalom Station. There was another Ysoki mechanic who showed up for one session and never came back so he was left for dead in an underground temple overrun with Xenomorphs. Captains orders. ","Android Operative: Fisto Roboto the Outlaw once seduced an old lady to steal her precious gems. He has a trained pet Velociraptor named Bitey. In one mission the crew needed suits for the hazardous environment so they made one from spare parts and a lot of creative sewing for Bitey and then strapped knives to his feet. He got kills. Drow Mystic: Moo was picked up for the crew when our Dragonkin met her at a brothel where she worked curing the workers(of their venereal diseases) and he brought her back to the ship for a one night stand and in the morning the captian took off for their next adventure before she even woke up. Haan Doctor: Tovakx defected when the crew boarded the cult ship and he wasn't getting paid enough to get murdered. He demonstrated his loyalty by severing the head off of a cultist with his face. AI: ARIIA the technoenvoy is a famous future techno pop singerperformer who the crew rescued from being sacrificed by a different cult trying to bring Nyarlathotep into the world. She never is good in the fights but the captain has made it very clear that even though most of the crew is expendable, she isn't. The Captain: Ironclaw Deathheart the Final Harbinger of Chaos(Ron for short) is the gruff captain of the space delivery service. He is willing to take on shady pickups and has gotten the crew almost killed several times but he pays well and rescues them in a pinch(sometimes, he left an old crew for dead in an Event Horizon like situation). He tasked the crew with saving the galaxy because if there is no more galaxy he won't get paid anymore. Kasatha Operative: Alkari the Outlaw has a name Captain Ron never remembers so he just calls her whatever sounds close at the time. Her voice of consciousness caused them to call the space cops on a secret Sentient Xenos zoo when they delivered a baby sentient xeno to them(after the crew received payment and left the system of course). Dragonkin Solarian: Trogdor the Burninator loves using his Solarian Weapons and his favorite type of damage is fire. He tried to raise a baby xenomorph(you know the ones, from Alien) but could never roll high enough. Dead Rats: a soldier and a mechanic Ysoki that I can't recall the names of. They were a mated pair and were murdered in their sleep by the cult that has been harassing them in an attempt to kill the whole crew while they were docked on Absalom Station. There was another Ysoki mechanic who showed up for one session and never came back so he was left for dead in an underground temple overrun with Xenomorphs. Captains orders.","安卓特工：逃犯机器人菲斯托·罗博托曾诱骗一位老太太偷走她珍贵的宝石。他还有一只训练有素的迅猛龙宠物叫咬咬。在一次任务中，船员们需要适合危险环境的服装，所以他们用零件和创意缝纫为咬咬做了一件服装，然后在他的脚上绑上了刀子。他取得了胜利。 女妖秘术师：穆在龙族遇到她的时候被船员们录用，当时她正在妓院工作，治愈工人们的性病，然后他把她带回了飞船，发生了一夜情，第二天早上船长在她还没醒来的时候就起航去了下一个冒险地点。 Haan医生：托瓦克斯在船员登上异教徒船只时叛变了，因为他觉得工资不够高不值得去送死。他用脸砍下异教徒的头证明了自己的忠诚。 人工智能：技使者阿里娅是未来著名的技术流歌手/表演者，船员们从另一个试图召唤尼亚拉萨特普的异教徒那里解救了她。她在战斗中从来都不擅长，但船长明确表示，尽管大部分船员都是可以牺牲的，但她不是。 船长：铁爪死亡之心，混沌的终结者（简称罗恩）是太空运输服务的粗鲁船长。他愿意接受可疑的任务，并曾经让船员差点丧命，但他付得起钱而且在紧要关头救了他们（有时候他会像在《黑色洞》里那样抛弃旧船员不管不顾）。他让船员们拯救宇宙，因为如果没有了宇宙他就赚不到钱了。 卡萨萨特工：逃犯阿尔卡里的名字船长罗恩总是记不住，所以他就用听着顺口的名字叫她。她的良心导致他们在给秘密的异星人动物园送交了一只幼年异星人后（当然是在船员们拿到钱并离开星系之后），给太空警察打了电话。 龙族灵武者：烧毁者特洛格多尔喜欢使用他的灵武器，他最喜欢的伤害类型是火灾。他曾试图抚养一只幼年外星异种（你知道的，就是《异形》中的那种），但从来都没成功过。 死老鼠：一个士兵和一个技工，我记不得名字了。他们是一对配偶，被那个一直骚扰他们的邪教组织在他们睡觉时杀害，试图在停靠在阿布萨隆太空站的时候消灭整个船员。 还有另外一个老鼠技工，他出现了一次然后再也没有回来，所以他被遗弃在一个被异种侵袭的地下神庙中。船长下令的。",0 3736,e6lu1i3,"*Wedrock tugs his sleeve backward and lifts his arm parallel to his body, activating his Omni-Tool and enveloping his arm in an orange sheen.* *The Salarian freezes in place for a few moments, his head affixed upon the surface of his Omni-Tool. He quickly allows his arm to fall limp, sighing softly.* ""It's... powerful. Physically. He was developed to be a totally autonomous Military AI, that means it has an entire arsenal and an army of mechs at its disposal. We had turing tests, guidelines, protocols! And he subverted them... how did he subvert them?"" *Wedrock grimaces, he open his mouth to speak but emits little more than a crackle. The Security officer steps forward, his bold and confident stature serving as stark contrast to the Doctor's slumped, defeated posture.* ""It's Salarian. It's built to be intelligent, predict troop movements. It also has extensive decryption and encryption programs installed. Anything you've seen so far is what it wants you to see. If you want to beat it, you're probably going to have to think outside the box. It works off chances and algorithms, the one thing it can't account for is how adaptable the Human brain is.""","Wedrock tugs his sleeve backward and lifts his arm parallel to his body, activating his Omni-Tool and enveloping his arm in an orange sheen. The Salarian freezes in place for a few moments, his head affixed upon the surface of his Omni-Tool. He quickly allows his arm to fall limp, sighing softly. ""It's... powerful. Physically. He was developed to be a totally autonomous Military AI, that means it has an entire arsenal and an army of mechs at its disposal. We had turing tests, guidelines, protocols! And he subverted them... how did he subvert them?"" Wedrock grimaces, he open his mouth to speak but emits little more than a crackle. The Security officer steps forward, his bold and confident stature serving as stark contrast to the Doctor's slumped, defeated posture. ""It's Salarian. It's built to be intelligent, predict troop movements. It also has extensive decryption and encryption programs installed. Anything you've seen so far is what it wants you to see. If you want to beat it, you're probably going to have to think outside the box. It works off chances and algorithms, the one thing it can't account for is how adaptable the Human brain is.""","*Wedrock 用力拉了一下袖子，把胳膊举到身体平行的位置，启动了他的全能工具，并让他的胳膊笼罩在橘色的光芒中。* *萨拉瑞恩呆在原地几分钟，眼睛盯着全能工具的表面。他很快就让他的胳膊松弛下来，轻轻地叹了口气。* “它...很强大。在物理上。它被开发为完全自主的军事人工智能，这意味着它有整整一个武器库和一支机甲部队可以利用。我们进行了图灵测试，制定了指导方针和协议！他是如何颠覆它们的...他是如何颠覆它们的？” *Wedrock扭曲了一下面部表情，他张开嘴想要说话，但只发出了一声噼啪声。安保人员走了上前，他那自信坚定的姿态与医生低头垂败的形象形成鲜明对比。* “这是萨拉瑞恩的作风。它被设计为聪明，能预测部队的行动。它还安装了广泛的解密和加密程序。到目前为止你见到的任何东西都是它希望你看到的。如果你想打败它，你可能得跳出思维定势。它运作方式是通过概率和算法，它无法预料的是人类大脑的适应能力。”",0 3653,e6ohtei,"Artificial intelligence in the not too distant future will be able to do nearly any job humans do, but many magnitudes better. Our system has not adapted to the loss of jobs to machines thus far, and it’s not going to catch up. We already have machines doing a better job than doctors in diagnosing and creating treatments for cancers. Knowing this and seeing the latest robotics from MIT and other organizations pushing the boundaries, what jobs can we reasonably believe will be off limits to machines in 50-200 years ? ","Artificial intelligence in the not too distant future will be able to do nearly any job humans do, but many magnitudes better. Our system has not adapted to the loss of jobs to machines thus far, and its not going to catch up. We already have machines doing a better job than doctors in diagnosing and creating treatments for cancers. Knowing this and seeing the latest robotics from MIT and other organizations pushing the boundaries, what jobs can we reasonably believe will be off limits to machines in 50-200 years ?","未来不久的将来，人工智能几乎可以做人类所能做的任何工作，而且做得更好。 到目前为止，我们的系统还没有适应工作丧失给机器带来的影响，而且它不会赶上来。 我们已经有机器在诊断和治疗癌症方面比医生做得更好。 知道这些并看到麻省理工学院和其他机构最新的机器人技术突破，我们能合理相信在50-200年内哪些工作是不会被机器取代的？",1 1215,e6oit33,"No, doctors and Lawyers already have AI doing their jobs BETTER than them.","No, doctors and Lawyers already have AI doing their jobs BETTER than them.",不，医生和律师已经有人工智能比他们做得更好了。,1 2949,e6rvtpt,"I'm not sure about being in the next 10 years but they also do predict things like diagnosing a patient's health and surgery will likely no longer require humans to do it. It's likely you won't really NEED a doctor or at least doctors and physicians in the future will heavily rely more on technology/automation/AI's that it might be more necessary for them to take courses in how to maintenance the AI/automaton tech and will really remain like a 3rd party team member. &#x200B; I really wonder how society will move at that point.",I'm not sure about being in the next 10 years but they also do predict things like diagnosing a patient's health and surgery will likely no longer require humans to do it. It's likely you won't really NEED a doctor or at least doctors and physicians in the future will heavily rely more on technologyautomationAI's that it might be more necessary for them to take courses in how to maintenance the AIautomaton tech and will really remain like a 3rd party team member. amp;x200B; I really wonder how society will move at that point.,我不确定未来10年会发生什么，但他们也预测诊断患者健康和手术很可能不再需要人类来做。可能你真的不需要医生，或者至少未来的医生和医师更多地依赖技术/自动化/人工智能，可能更有必要他们学习如何维护人工智能/自动化技术，真的会像第三方团队成员一样。我真的很好奇社会会怎么发展到那个时候。,1 4072,e6yzj6n,"Doctor Doom is uses magic and technology to attack his foes and to defend himself. In several storylines it turned out that the heroes weren’t fighting Doctor Doom himself, but rather a Doombot. These Doombots are robots who look exactly like Doom in his full armor and are made to be indistinquisable from Doom himself. This means that even psychics like Professor X aren’t able to tell whether it is a human (Dr Doom himself) or a robot (Doombot). [This is achieved by letting the Doombot actually believe that it is the real Doctor Doom, have it automatically shut down if it comes near another Doombot (otherwise it might find out it isn’t real and become selfaware) and have it be less powerful than Doom himself, so he can’t be overthrown]. Now if the Doombots weren’t capable of using magic attacks, then it would be pretty obvious to tell that it isn’t the real Doctor Doom. So I guess that Doom figured out a way to make a robot/AI use magic.","Doctor Doom is uses magic and technology to attack his foes and to defend himself. In several storylines it turned out that the heroes werent fighting Doctor Doom himself, but rather a Doombot. These Doombots are robots who look exactly like Doom in his full armor and are made to be indistinquisable from Doom himself. This means that even psychics like Professor X arent able to tell whether it is a human (Dr Doom himself) or a robot (Doombot). This is achieved by letting the Doombot actually believe that it is the real Doctor Doom, have it automatically shut down if it comes near another Doombot (otherwise it might find out it isnt real and become selfaware) and have it be less powerful than Doom himself, so he cant be overthrown. Now if the Doombots werent capable of using magic attacks, then it would be pretty obvious to tell that it isnt the real Doctor Doom. So I guess that Doom figured out a way to make a robotAI use magic.","博士末日利用魔法和技术来攻击敌人和保护自己。 在几个故事情节中，英雄们发现他们并不是在与博士末日本人作战，而是在与末日机器人作战。 这些末日机器人是看起来和戴着全副武装的末日本人一模一样的机器人，目的就是要和本尊混淆。这意味着即使像X教授这样的心灵力量者也无法分辨出它们究竟是人类（真正的博士末日）还是机器人（末日机器人）。[这是通过让末日机器人本身相信自己才是真正的博士末日，遇到其他末日机器人时会自动关闭（否则它可能会意识到自己不是真的，从而变得自觉），并且比真正的末日本人弱一些，这样他就无法被推翻。 现在，如果末日机器人无法使用魔法攻击，那么很明显它就不是真正的博士末日。所以我想末日一定想出了让机器人／人工智能使用魔法的方法。",0 1379,e6z4421,"I am so sorry for what you are going through. It is so scary to wait when you are worried. It is possible that things weren't visible in the ultrasound or they incorrectly measured. It does happen. I lost my oldest daughter to trisomy 18 at six days old. My doctor dismissed issues at the 20 week ultrasound and I didn't send me for a detailed scan until 26 weeks. She was born at 29 weeks. My middle daughter came back with an increased risk for down's. We did an amniocentesis and she was fine. But then she wouldn't cooperate and it took until about 30 weeks to get a good view of her heart. I was high risk, so they did detailed ultrasounds a lot. She is a healthy almost 6 year old. My youngest was a big baby and there was excess amniotic fluid. They told me that she would likely have a stay at the NICU. She didn't need it and is healthy as can be and is now 4. Whatever happens, you are going to be okay. It may not feel that way right now, but you will get through this. The wait is so stressful. Try to stay off of Google until you have more information. You can drive yourself crazy with the worst case scenario. I truly hope things are okay. If you ever want to talk to someone who has been there. AI am here any time.","I am so sorry for what you are going through. It is so scary to wait when you are worried. It is possible that things weren't visible in the ultrasound or they incorrectly measured. It does happen. I lost my oldest daughter to trisomy 18 at six days old. My doctor dismissed issues at the 20 week ultrasound and I didn't send me for a detailed scan until 26 weeks. She was born at 29 weeks. My middle daughter came back with an increased risk for down's. We did an amniocentesis and she was fine. But then she wouldn't cooperate and it took until about 30 weeks to get a good view of her heart. I was high risk, so they did detailed ultrasounds a lot. She is a healthy almost 6 year old. My youngest was a big baby and there was excess amniotic fluid. They told me that she would likely have a stay at the NICU. She didn't need it and is healthy as can be and is now 4. Whatever happens, you are going to be okay. It may not feel that way right now, but you will get through this. The wait is so stressful. Try to stay off of Google until you have more information. You can drive yourself crazy with the worst case scenario. I truly hope things are okay. If you ever want to talk to someone who has been there. AI am here any time.","我非常抱歉你正在经历这些。当你担心的时候，等待真的很可怕。可能超声波检查时并没有显示出问题，或者他们测量出错了。这种情况是会发生的。 我的大女儿在出生6天时就因18三体综合症去世了。20周的超声波检查时，我的医生没有重视问题，直到26周才给我做详细的扫描。她是在29周出生的。我的中女儿在产前检查中显示患唐氏综合症的风险增加。我们做了羊水穿刺，结果她很健康。但后来她不配合，直到30周才能看清她的心脏情况。我属于高危人群，所以他们一直给我做详细的超声波检查。她现在已经是一个干健康的将近6岁孩子了。我最小的孩子当时是个大宝宝，羊水过多。他们告诉我她可能需要留在新生儿监护室。但结果她并不需要，并且健康得很好，现在已经是4岁了。 无论发生什么，你都会没事的。也许现在感觉不是这样，但你会度过难关的。等待真的太紧张了。在得到更多信息之前，尽量不要上网搜索。否则你会被最坏的情况搞得自己神经兮兮的。真心希望一切都好。如果你想要和经历过类似情况的人聊聊，我随时都在。",0 1066,e6zk940,"> AI engineers come from all sorts of fields and not specifically CS lol alright bud, here is a job posting directly from uber for AI engineer https://www.uber.com/careers/list/37332/ >PhD level degree in a highly technical quantitative field from Computer Science, Electrical Engineering, or a similar field. and a lot of project managers are transitioned from software engineer position. Sometimes you just need the experience and credibility from being a software engineer to be in charge of your team of software engineers here is the first google result for job requirement for amazon project manager https://www.google.com/search?q=project+manager+amazon&oq=project+manager+amazon&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.5879j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&ibp=htl;jobs#htidocid=gjQvJ3wEZEvKuzeoAAAAAA%3D%3D >Bachelor's degree in computer science or a related discipline. >8-12 years of experience the software industry, taking a product through its complete lifecycle. 3+ years of coding experience in Java, C++, or Perl Geez, I try very hard to find any other education requirement but i cant find any pay is different even from the link you posted, doctor and nurse are paid differently as well. Thats why i used the 2 jobs to compare. you are just being willfully ignorant at this point. People like you is one of the reasons CS look down upon IT. But what do i know, i dont make assumptions about things or people I have no idea about ","gt; AI engineers come from all sorts of fields and not specifically CS lol alright bud, here is a job posting directly from uber for AI engineer https:www.uber.comcareerslist37332 gt;PhD level degree in a highly technical quantitative field from Computer Science, Electrical Engineering, or a similar field. and a lot of project managers are transitioned from software engineer position. Sometimes you just need the experience and credibility from being a software engineer to be in charge of your team of software engineers here is the first google result for job requirement for amazon project manager https:www.google.comsearch?qprojectmanageramazonamp;oqprojectmanageramazonamp;aqschrome..69i57j0l5.5879j0j7amp;sourceidchromeamp;ieUTF-8amp;ibphtl;jobshtidocidgjQvJ3wEZEvKuzeoAAAAAA3D3D gt;Bachelor's degree in computer science or a related discipline. gt;8-12 years of experience the software industry, taking a product through its complete lifecycle. 3 years of coding experience in Java, C, or Perl Geez, I try very hard to find any other education requirement but i cant find any pay is different even from the link you posted, doctor and nurse are paid differently as well. Thats why i used the 2 jobs to compare. you are just being willfully ignorant at this point. People like you is one of the reasons CS look down upon IT. But what do i know, i dont make assumptions about things or people I have no idea about","哈，好吧，伙计，这是从优步直接招聘AI工程师的职位https://www.uber.com/careers/list/37332/，不是所有AI工程师都必须来自CS领域。 很多项目经理都是由软件工程师转岗而来的。有时候你需要从软件工程师身份获得经验和信誉，才能负责你的软件工程师团队。 这是Amazon项目经理的职位要求的第一个谷歌搜索结果https://www.google.com/search?q=project+manager+amazon&oq=project+manager+amazon&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.5879j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&ibp=htl;jobs#htidocid=gjQvJ3wEZEvKuzeoAAAAAA%3D%3D 天啊，我很努力地找到其他教育要求，但我找不到任何。 即使来自你贴出的链接，工资也是不同的，医生和护士的薪水也是不同的。这就是为什么我用这两个工作来比较的原因。 你现在只是故意装糊涂。像你这样的人就是CS看不起IT的原因之一。但我知道什么，我不会对我一无所知的事物或人作假设。",0 3854,e70mtis,"Hey Nazta, gonna drop in here and say thanks for everything you do for the sub. I'm starting to suspect you either 1) don't sleep, or 2) are an AI. If #1 is true, see a doctor. If #2 is true, I always thought The Matrix was a little one-sided.","Hey Nazta, gonna drop in here and say thanks for everything you do for the sub. I'm starting to suspect you either 1) don't sleep, or 2) are an AI. If 1 is true, see a doctor. If 2 is true, I always thought The Matrix was a little one-sided.","嘿，Nazta，我打算在这里感谢你为这个群做的一切。我开始怀疑你要么1）不睡觉，要么2）是个人工智能。 如果情况1属实，那得去看医生。如果情况2属实，我一直觉得《黑客帝国》有点片面。",0 3555,e75skdf,"Just to be clear, I'm not arguing that CS majors/profs don't *learn* differentials, I'm arguing that it's silly to assume the average one will be good with differentials. When I took Calc 1, the classmate I sat next to was planning on going to med school to become a doctor (which he eventually did). He had to take Calc to get his B.S. and he really struggled through the class. So for instance, I would say that the average doctor is supposed to have *taken* Calc, but I certainly wouldn't say that I expect the average doctor to be *good* with Calc, as it has so little to do with their discipline, and knowledge is a ""use it or lose it"" sort of resource. I'd totally agree that ML disciplines will need knowledge of Differentials, as well as more advanced branches of mathematics such as Linear Algebra and Statistics. But that's such a small proportion of the majors commonly studied in CS. Not to mention, a lot of ML researchers major in Math and minor in CS. I really think it'd be a stretch to say that the average CS professor has studied ML or actively puts their knowledge of differentials to use. The profs that teach ML certainly do, but again, that's such a small subset. Like, you don't think the average Systems Analyst at a Fortune 500 remembers or uses anything from Calc, do you? Likewise with a typical Software Engineer. AI researchers are pretty much the only ones, and many of them majored in Math instead.","Just to be clear, I'm not arguing that CS majorsprofs don't learn differentials, I'm arguing that it's silly to assume the average one will be good with differentials. When I took Calc 1, the classmate I sat next to was planning on going to med school to become a doctor (which he eventually did). He had to take Calc to get his B.S. and he really struggled through the class. So for instance, I would say that the average doctor is supposed to have taken Calc, but I certainly wouldn't say that I expect the average doctor to be good with Calc, as it has so little to do with their discipline, and knowledge is a ""use it or lose it"" sort of resource. I'd totally agree that ML disciplines will need knowledge of Differentials, as well as more advanced branches of mathematics such as Linear Algebra and Statistics. But that's such a small proportion of the majors commonly studied in CS. Not to mention, a lot of ML researchers major in Math and minor in CS. I really think it'd be a stretch to say that the average CS professor has studied ML or actively puts their knowledge of differentials to use. The profs that teach ML certainly do, but again, that's such a small subset. Like, you don't think the average Systems Analyst at a Fortune 500 remembers or uses anything from Calc, do you? Likewise with a typical Software Engineer. AI researchers are pretty much the only ones, and many of them majored in Math instead.","我想说的是，我并不是在说计算机专业的学生/教授不会*学习*微分，我只是觉得假设他们会擅长微分是很愚蠢的。 我上微积分一的时候，旁边坐着的同学打算读医科，最后他也实现了这个梦想。他需要学微积分来拿到学士学位，但他在这门课上确实遇到了很多困难。比如，我会说普通医生应该是*学过*微积分的，但我肯定不会说我期待普通医生能在微积分上*擅长*，因为这和他们的专业关系不大，而且知识很容易生疏。 我完全同意机器学习领域需要对微分有所了解，还需要熟悉更高级的数学分支，比如线性代数和统计学。但这些只是计算机专业中常见专业方向的一小部分。更不用说，很多机器学习研究者主修数学并副修计算机科学。我觉得一般的计算机科学教授应该并不了解机器学习，或者并不是在工作中用到微分知识。当然教机器学习的教授可能会，但这毕竞是一个小众领域。 比如说，你不会认为一名财富500强公司的系统分析师会记得或者应用微积分的任何知识吧？同样也适用于一名典型的软件工程师。人工智能研究员可能会，而且他们中很多人主修的是数学专业。",0 2561,e7bnd9d,"I'm not disagreeing with you here, but I do want to point to the medical AI (or whatever term is appropriate) that is diagnosing illnesses more accurately than specialists. How long it'll be before AI actually *replaces* doctors is anyone's guess, and there will certainly be the personal touch needed as liaison between the AI and the patient (there are plenty of indicators that people will seek comfort over provision when faced with crisis). But how much training that will actually require may be considerably lower. As for law? A lot of that tends to be pretty outside-the-box thinking, linking things that seem to have little connection to advance a given topic. I'd guess that will be one of the last major professions to be replaced.","I'm not disagreeing with you here, but I do want to point to the medical AI (or whatever term is appropriate) that is diagnosing illnesses more accurately than specialists. How long it'll be before AI actually replaces doctors is anyone's guess, and there will certainly be the personal touch needed as liaison between the AI and the patient (there are plenty of indicators that people will seek comfort over provision when faced with crisis). But how much training that will actually require may be considerably lower. As for law? A lot of that tends to be pretty outside-the-box thinking, linking things that seem to have little connection to advance a given topic. I'd guess that will be one of the last major professions to be replaced.","我这里并不是在反对你，但我想指出现在的医疗人工智能（或者适当的术语）比专家更准确地诊断疾病。人工智能真的要取代医生还有多久是个未知数，肯定还是需要人与患者之间的个人联系（有很多迹象表明人们在面对危机时更倾向于寻求安慰而不是服务）。但实际上需要多少培训可能要大大减少。 至于法律？很多时候需要一些与众不同的思维，将看似没有联系的事物联系起来来推进某个话题。我猜想这可能是最后一批被替代的主要职业之一。",1 609,e7ebny2,"Basically, estrogen blockers work in one of three ways 1) they block the production of estrogens (e.g., aromatase inhibitors (AI) block conversation of testosterone to estrogens), 2) they block or destroy estrogen receptors, 3) they change how estrogen receptors work. The first type is likely to lower your serum estrogens, increase your testosterone and possibly, but not certainly, increase DHT. The impact of the other two types on testosterone and estrogen levels depends on the medication used and on a patient. All three types are used for treating symptoms of high estrogen, but which one to use is best decided by a qualified doctor. In the context of testosterone replacement therapy, AI is the most common class of drugs used to lower estrogens. Some reading here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antiestrogen","Basically, estrogen blockers work in one of three ways 1) they block the production of estrogens (e.g., aromatase inhibitors (AI) block conversation of testosterone to estrogens), 2) they block or destroy estrogen receptors, 3) they change how estrogen receptors work. The first type is likely to lower your serum estrogens, increase your testosterone and possibly, but not certainly, increase DHT. The impact of the other two types on testosterone and estrogen levels depends on the medication used and on a patient. All three types are used for treating symptoms of high estrogen, but which one to use is best decided by a qualified doctor. In the context of testosterone replacement therapy, AI is the most common class of drugs used to lower estrogens. Some reading here: https:en.m.wikipedia.orgwikiAntiestrogen","基本上，雌激素阻断剂有三种作用方式，1）它们阻止雌激素的产生（例如，芳香化酶抑制剂（AI）阻止睾酮转化为雌激素），2）它们阻止或破坏雌激素受体，3）它们改变雌激素受体的工作方式。 第一种类型很可能会降低你的血清雌激素，增加你的睾酮，并且可能，但并不一定，增加DHT。 另外两种类型对睾酮和雌激素水平的影响取决于使用的药物和患者本身。 这三种类型都用于治疗高雌激素的症状，但哪一种最适合使用最好由合格的医生决定。在睾酮替代疗法的背景下，AI是用于降低雌激素水平的最常见的药物类别。 一些相关阅读：https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antiestrogen",0 4498,e7fm6qa,"You're right that some social interaction jobs can't be automated, as I said in my comment. But, STEM jobs also require critical thinking, analytical thinking, divergent thinking, abstract thinking, creative thinking, and convergent thinking. STEM jobs require a lot of **thinking** which AI is not capable of. See [here](http://thepeakperformancecenter.com/educational-learning/thinking/types-of-thinking-2/) for a definition of the types of thinking. There will always have to be a human watching over the maintenance robots at a site in case of unexpected complications which the robots can't react to. But again, that is beside what my original point was. The most important STEM jobs to society are not maintenance jobs. It is the cutting, bleeding edge mathematical, scientific and technological advancement jobs. That's how unbuildable things get built. That's how unknown things get known. That's how unmathed things get mathed. Nurses can also be replaced because they mostly only administer medical treatments. When there are a lot of robots to do almost all of the medical treatments, Doctors will have much more free time to take up the soft roles which nurses used to do. Doctors are still important because, again, they have to react when something goes wrong with the robots. However, Doctors count as a STEM job as they are required to be extremely knowledgable about medical **science**. Women tend to be more common in the medical field (~30% instead of the usual 5-10%) than other STEM jobs, but they are far from the majority. Again, the most important thing in medicine, like the rest of STEM, is in medical advancements. That's how uncurable illnesses get cured. TL;DR without people in STEM jobs, technological advancement would stop, and things would individually break down because things went wrong, and robots couldn't fix it. Eventually whole system itself would break down because things broke one by one. If you want a visual representation of this, watch WALL-E. The background setting of the movie is what happens when no one watches the robots. ","You're right that some social interaction jobs can't be automated, as I said in my comment. But, STEM jobs also require critical thinking, analytical thinking, divergent thinking, abstract thinking, creative thinking, and convergent thinking. STEM jobs require a lot of thinking which AI is not capable of. See here(http:thepeakperformancecenter.comeducational-learningthinkingtypes-of-thinking-2) for a definition of the types of thinking. There will always have to be a human watching over the maintenance robots at a site in case of unexpected complications which the robots can't react to. But again, that is beside what my original point was. The most important STEM jobs to society are not maintenance jobs. It is the cutting, bleeding edge mathematical, scientific and technological advancement jobs. That's how unbuildable things get built. That's how unknown things get known. That's how unmathed things get mathed. Nurses can also be replaced because they mostly only administer medical treatments. When there are a lot of robots to do almost all of the medical treatments, Doctors will have much more free time to take up the soft roles which nurses used to do. Doctors are still important because, again, they have to react when something goes wrong with the robots. However, Doctors count as a STEM job as they are required to be extremely knowledgable about medical science. Women tend to be more common in the medical field (30 instead of the usual 5-10) than other STEM jobs, but they are far from the majority. Again, the most important thing in medicine, like the rest of STEM, is in medical advancements. That's how uncurable illnesses get cured. TL;DR without people in STEM jobs, technological advancement would stop, and things would individually break down because things went wrong, and robots couldn't fix it. Eventually whole system itself would break down because things broke one by one. If you want a visual representation of this, watch WALL-E. The background setting of the movie is what happens when no one watches the robots.","你说得对，有些社交互动的工作是无法被自动化的，就像我在评论中说的那样。但是，STEM工作也需要批判性思维、分析思维、发散性思维、抽象思维、创造性思维和收敛性思维。STEM工作需要大量的思考，而人工智能是做不到的。点击这里了解各种思维类型的定义。在一个地方，始终需要有人来监视维护机器人，以防出现机器人无法应对的意外问题。 但是，这与我的最初观点无关。对社会来说，STEM工作中最重要的不是维护工作。最重要的是科学、技术和数学领域的前沿工作。这样才能完成所谓无法完成的任务，知晓未知领域，做出无法匹敌的成就。 护士也可以被取代，因为他们大部分时间只是进行医疗治疗。当有大量机器人可以进行几乎所有医疗治疗时，医生会有更多的空闲时间来承担护士过去的软性角色。医生仍然很重要，因为他们必须在机器人出现问题时进行应对。但是，医生属于STEM工作，因为他们需要对医学科学有极其丰富的知识。在医疗领域，女性比其他STEM工作更常见（大约30%，而不是通常的5-10%）但并没有占据大多数。 再次强调，医学，就像其他STEM领域一样，最重要的是医学进步。这是治愈无法医治的疾病的方法。 长话短说，如果没有STEM工作，技术进步会停滞不前，一旦出现问题，一切都会逐渐崩溃，机器人无法修复。最终整个系统本身也会崩溃，因为问题一个接着一个出现。如果你想看到这个情况的视觉表现，就看《机器人总动员》吧。电影的背景就展示了无人监管机器人时会发生什么。",1 3848,e7iadsy,"Honestly the only difference I see between so-called ""living"" beings and ""inanimate"" ones is that the living ones can't be recovered after a hard shutdown. In any case, this is why we need AI doctors - it shouldn't fall on a human to have to Google a diagnosis; that can be fully automated.","Honestly the only difference I see between so-called ""living"" beings and ""inanimate"" ones is that the living ones can't be recovered after a hard shutdown. In any case, this is why we need AI doctors - it shouldn't fall on a human to have to Google a diagnosis; that can be fully automated.",说实话，我觉得所谓的“活物”和“无生命”的唯一区别在于，活物在强制关机后就不能复原了。无论如何，这就是为什么我们需要AI医生- 人类不应该去谷歌诊断，这完全可以自动化。,1 714,e7k38nl,"Machine learning is not intelligence. Just like being a doctor is not intelligence. It is education. With machines it is programming. You think machine learning is intelligence because you are simply educated and probably not very intelligent your self. Again, intelligence is acquiring info, not having someone bestow the info into you, or how to acquire the info into you. You do it your self. You solve the problem. Again, if they tell you to take a left, and keep going left until it takes you to victory, the is not you, that is your education. Your programming. And that is what machine learning is. It is NOT AI. AI is almost like free will. It's its own thing. Running a program is not AI, it is running a program. It's called code, not intelligence. ","Machine learning is not intelligence. Just like being a doctor is not intelligence. It is education. With machines it is programming. You think machine learning is intelligence because you are simply educated and probably not very intelligent your self. Again, intelligence is acquiring info, not having someone bestow the info into you, or how to acquire the info into you. You do it your self. You solve the problem. Again, if they tell you to take a left, and keep going left until it takes you to victory, the is not you, that is your education. Your programming. And that is what machine learning is. It is NOT AI. AI is almost like free will. It's its own thing. Running a program is not AI, it is running a program. It's called code, not intelligence.","机器学习不是智能。就像做医生不是智能一样。这是教育。对于机器来说，这是编程。 你认为机器学习是智能，是因为你只是受过教育，可能自己并不是很聪明。 再说一遍，智能是获取信息，不是让别人把信息灌输给你，或者告诉你怎么获取信息。你要自己去做。你要解决问题。 再说一遍，如果他们告诉你左转，一直向左开，直到取得胜利，那不是你的智慧，那是你的教育。你的编程。这就是机器学习。它不是人工智能。人工智能几乎就像自由意志。它是自己的东西。运行一个程序不是人工智能，那只是在运行一个程序。那叫做代码，不是智能。",0 3738,e7kp4et,"If you have AI that's smart enough to do work that involves very difficult things like having free-form conversations, and robotics dextrous enough to do work like waiting tables, then you can have the robots do the maintenance, too. Robots can maintain robots just like human doctors can treat human patients, if we get good enough at making robots.","If you have AI that's smart enough to do work that involves very difficult things like having free-form conversations, and robotics dextrous enough to do work like waiting tables, then you can have the robots do the maintenance, too. Robots can maintain robots just like human doctors can treat human patients, if we get good enough at making robots.","如果你拥有足够聪明的人工智能可以做一些非常困难的工作，比如自由形式对话，还有足够灵巧的机器人可以像服务生一样工作，那么你也可以让机器人来做维护工作。 如果我们足够擅长制造机器人，那么机器人也可以像人类医生治疗人类患者一样来维护机器人。",0 2124,e7nkf1j,"The cross-guard saber wasnt what everyone used during that era. It was just popular configuration during the period of that Jedi purge of the Sith and of the Scourge of Malachor. [Maul had a vision on Malachor of the Purge and the Sith that resided there had standard single bladed sabers, while the jedi used the crossguard saber. ](https://i.imgur.com/DZXbKCf.jpg) We've seen other instances of lightsabers from the canon Old Republic era and they all look like standard single bladed sabers. Doctor Aphra has many examples of this. [Aphra recovering sabers from the Ordu Aspectu temple](https://i.imgur.com/xeMmKuX.jpg) [From Immortal Rur AI's retelling of the events that led to the fall of the Ordu Aspectu](https://i.imgur.com/zun0mog.jpg) [Aphra igniting one to destroy Immortal Rur](https://i.imgur.com/3rwDp2p.jpg) [Aphra recovering one from a downed Old Republic era fighter craft](https://i.imgur.com/KD7z7V9.jpg) ","The cross-guard saber wasnt what everyone used during that era. It was just popular configuration during the period of that Jedi purge of the Sith and of the Scourge of Malachor. Maul had a vision on Malachor of the Purge and the Sith that resided there had standard single bladed sabers, while the jedi used the crossguard saber. (https:i.imgur.comDZXbKCf.jpg) We've seen other instances of lightsabers from the canon Old Republic era and they all look like standard single bladed sabers. Doctor Aphra has many examples of this. Aphra recovering sabers from the Ordu Aspectu temple(https:i.imgur.comxeMmKuX.jpg) From Immortal Rur AI's retelling of the events that led to the fall of the Ordu Aspectu(https:i.imgur.comzun0mog.jpg) Aphra igniting one to destroy Immortal Rur(https:i.imgur.com3rwDp2p.jpg) Aphra recovering one from a downed Old Republic era fighter craft(https:i.imgur.comKD7z7V9.jpg)","十字光剑在那个时代并不是所有人都在用的。它只是在绝地大屠杀西斯和马拉科尔之灾期间流行的配置。 [在马拉科尔，莫尔看到了大屠杀和居住在那里的西斯的景象，他们使用的是标准的单刀光剑，而绝地使用了十字光剑。] 我们在正史《旧共和国》时期的一些其他光剑实例，它们看起来都是标准的单刀光剑。阿夫拉博士有很多这样的例子。 [阿夫拉从奥杜·亚斯佩图神殿收集的光剑](https://i.imgur.com/xeMmKuX.jpg) [来自不朽鲁尔AI对导致奥杜·亚斯佩图陨落的事件的重述](https://i.imgur.com/zun0mog.jpg) [阿夫拉点燃一个来摧毁不朽鲁尔](https://i.imgur.com/3rwDp2p.jpg) [阿夫拉从一艘坠毁的旧共和国时代的战斗机上回收了一个](https://i.imgur.com/KD7z7V9.jpg)",0 174,e7sk8p3,"Well...that story is deeply conflicted. When they start discussing the possibility of the TARDIS giving them the tools to escape their situation, the Doctor says - quite explicitly - ""My machine can't think."" Quickly after, however, the others convince him that it's feasible, but it doesn't ""think...as you or I do. It must be able to think as a machine. You see, it has a bank of computers."" That is, within the language of 1963 science fiction, the Doctor is admitting that the TARDIS might have a rudimentary artificial intelligence. But at no point in that episode is there any suggestion that the TARDIS is anything other than a machine; no suggestion that it is alive. Its communication is extremely rudimentary, and geared toward defense. It can't act on its own; it requires the people inside to actually do anything useful. I think therefore it is a *considerable* stretch to suggest that TARDIS is ""sentient"" in this episode. Certainly not to the degree that we see in ""The Doctor's Wife"" or even the throwaway lines or behaviors throughout New Who.","Well...that story is deeply conflicted. When they start discussing the possibility of the TARDIS giving them the tools to escape their situation, the Doctor says - quite explicitly - ""My machine can't think."" Quickly after, however, the others convince him that it's feasible, but it doesn't ""think...as you or I do. It must be able to think as a machine. You see, it has a bank of computers."" That is, within the language of 1963 science fiction, the Doctor is admitting that the TARDIS might have a rudimentary artificial intelligence. But at no point in that episode is there any suggestion that the TARDIS is anything other than a machine; no suggestion that it is alive. Its communication is extremely rudimentary, and geared toward defense. It can't act on its own; it requires the people inside to actually do anything useful. I think therefore it is a considerable stretch to suggest that TARDIS is ""sentient"" in this episode. Certainly not to the degree that we see in ""The Doctor's Wife"" or even the throwaway lines or behaviors throughout New Who.","这个故事真是充满矛盾啊。当他们开始讨论TARDIS可能给他们提供逃离困境的工具时，博士明确地说道：“我的机器不会思考。”但很快其他人说服了他，表示这是可行的，只是不会“像你我那样思考。它一定是作为一台机器来思考。你知道，它有一排计算机。” 也就是说，在1963年科幻小说的语境中，博士承认TARDIS可能有一种基本的人工智能。 但在那一集中，没有任何暗示TARDIS是除了一台机器以外的其他东西；也没有暗示它是有生命的。它的交流非常基本，并且是为了自卫而设计的。它不能自行行动；需要里面的人来实际做任何有用的事情。 因此，在这一集中暗示TARDIS是有感知能力的确是相当牵强的。当然，这跟我们在“博士的妻子”中所看到的以及New Who里的那些随意的台词或行为相比也是差远了。",0 1182,e7tkkpa,">but I'm pretty certain based on what I've seen that we're more like centuries away from that than decades if it's actually possible for us to do at all. Yea, people said the same 20 years ago when you asked them if they could imagine a world wide interconnected network to transfer absurd amounts of information in mere seconds from one end of the world to the other. And now not only do we have that network, but each of us has a device that fits into our pants' pockets that can wirelessly access this network anywhere we care to build the infrastructure. Technology always advances exponentially. Once a certain breach in AI has been made, the possibilities this will unlock will increase the rate of further advancements tremendously. > In order to have a machine that could begin to threaten the entire concept of labor to the point that it undermined the ability to have commercial exchange entirely, you would have to be able to account perfectly for not just the needs of every person in society, but their desires. You have to be aware of all the random desires a person can possibly have before they are aware for themselves that they desire it and be able to provide it to them faster than they would be able to provide it to themselves, no matter how innovative or random the desire or request might be. Until a machine that can do that exists, there will always be labor opportunity. You severely overestimate the human mind and underestimate the potential of AI. How do you think even nowadays people predict future wants and needs? Tons of Data that is being evaluated. You honestly think a machine could not do that? There are far more daunting tasks than that. For the mid-range future you can expect interpersonal jobs to be a safe haven as robots will be lacking the emotional warmth that you'd expect from your doctor, teacher or nurse. Everything facbrication will go first, engineering and sciences will soon follow, creative jobs afterwards (there are already AIs that can compose pretty good music). You should not think machines won't be able to develop, program and maintain new machines. That's childs play at a certain point of AI advancement. People used to say no machine could ever beat the best chess player, until it happened. ","gt;but I'm pretty certain based on what I've seen that we're more like centuries away from that than decades if it's actually possible for us to do at all. Yea, people said the same 20 years ago when you asked them if they could imagine a world wide interconnected network to transfer absurd amounts of information in mere seconds from one end of the world to the other. And now not only do we have that network, but each of us has a device that fits into our pants' pockets that can wirelessly access this network anywhere we care to build the infrastructure. Technology always advances exponentially. Once a certain breach in AI has been made, the possibilities this will unlock will increase the rate of further advancements tremendously. gt; In order to have a machine that could begin to threaten the entire concept of labor to the point that it undermined the ability to have commercial exchange entirely, you would have to be able to account perfectly for not just the needs of every person in society, but their desires. You have to be aware of all the random desires a person can possibly have before they are aware for themselves that they desire it and be able to provide it to them faster than they would be able to provide it to themselves, no matter how innovative or random the desire or request might be. Until a machine that can do that exists, there will always be labor opportunity. You severely overestimate the human mind and underestimate the potential of AI. How do you think even nowadays people predict future wants and needs? Tons of Data that is being evaluated. You honestly think a machine could not do that? There are far more daunting tasks than that. For the mid-range future you can expect interpersonal jobs to be a safe haven as robots will be lacking the emotional warmth that you'd expect from your doctor, teacher or nurse. Everything facbrication will go first, engineering and sciences will soon follow, creative jobs afterwards (there are already AIs that can compose pretty good music). You should not think machines won't be able to develop, program and maintain new machines. That's childs play at a certain point of AI advancement. People used to say no machine could ever beat the best chess player, until it happened.","嗯，20年前人们同样说过，当你问他们能不能想象一个全球互联的网络，可以在短短几秒钟内传输大量信息从世界的一端到另一端。现在我们不仅有了这个网络，而且每个人都有一部可以放进裤子口袋的设备，可以无线地在任何我们建立基础设施的地方接入这个网络。 技术总是呈指数增长。一旦AI取得了某种突破，这将打开无限的可能性，并大幅加快未来的发展速度。 > 为了有一台机器能够威胁到整个劳动概念，甚至危及商业交换的能力，你必须能够完美地考虑到社会中每个人的需求和欲望。你必须能够提供给他们所有可能拥有的任何随机欲望，甚至在他们自己意识到自己想要之前，就能比他们自己更快地提供给他们。只要这样的机器不存在，劳动机会总会存在。 你严重高估了人类的思维，低估了AI的潜力。你觉得现如今人们是如何预测未来的需求和欲望的呢？大量的数据正在被评估。你真的认为机器不能做到这一点吗？还有比这更艰巨的任务。 中期内，人际关系的工作将是一个安全的港湾，因为机器人缺乏你从医生、老师或护士身上期望的情感温暖。一切制造将首先出现问题，接着工程和科学很快也会被取代，然后是创意类的工作（已经有能够创作相当不错音乐的AI了）。 你不要认为机器不能够开发、编程和维护新的机器。在AI发展的某个节点，这对他们来说是小菜一碟。 人们曾经说，没有机器会打败顶尖的国际象棋选手，直到这种情况发生。",1 4712,e7tr4xy,"Google's ai team has paved a way for interesting area of health Care field. Galucoma and diabetic retinopathy come to mind but their AI have done more with less time and more accuracy than doctors ever have before. Source: I'm a resident who's job might be in jeopardy depending on how advanced they get",Google's ai team has paved a way for interesting area of health Care field. Galucoma and diabetic retinopathy come to mind but their AI have done more with less time and more accuracy than doctors ever have before. Source: I'm a resident who's job might be in jeopardy depending on how advanced they get,"Google的人工智能团队为医疗保健领域开辟了一条有趣的道路。我想到了青光眼和糖尿病视网膜病变，但他们的人工智能做的比医生以往做的更多，更快，更准确。 来源：我是一名住院医生，我的工作可能会受到威胁，取决于他们的发展程度。",1 4727,e7vfb8h,"Yeah, the Doctor told him to fix himself up and have a nap, so I guess he sort of did. But I'm sure the idea was that the rags targeted him because they're a twisted version of some ""AI bandages"" invented by the ancient inhabitants of the planet, that are supposed to go help the wounded by themselves, but which were radically changed because of the Stenza. Seems like such a wasted opportunity. And yeah, pretty good tunnels that can take the group exactly where they want to go.","Yeah, the Doctor told him to fix himself up and have a nap, so I guess he sort of did. But I'm sure the idea was that the rags targeted him because they're a twisted version of some ""AI bandages"" invented by the ancient inhabitants of the planet, that are supposed to go help the wounded by themselves, but which were radically changed because of the Stenza. Seems like such a wasted opportunity. And yeah, pretty good tunnels that can take the group exactly where they want to go.","是的，医生告诉他好好休息一下，修整一下，我想他可能确实做到了。但我敢肯定，这些抹布攻击他是因为它们是行星上古居民发明的某种“AI绷带”的变态版本，本应该自动去帮助受伤的人，但因为 Stenza 的存在而被彻底改变了。看起来真是个被浪费的机会。 对了，还有那些隧道，能准确地带领团队去他们想要去的地方，挺不错的。",0 1515,e80g4e6,"I have fibromyalgia and after the dri tri in the spring, I had non-stop issues for three months. It inflamed everything for me! I’m super competitive as well but have had to learn when I can push it and when I cannot. I’m so sorry for your challenges. I’ve been told by my doctor that HIIT is not recommended for those with AI because the body will believe it’s being attacked. It just stinks. Right now, I am trying to make it work but might not be able to stay with OTF much longer. ","I have fibromyalgia and after the dri tri in the spring, I had non-stop issues for three months. It inflamed everything for me! Im super competitive as well but have had to learn when I can push it and when I cannot. Im so sorry for your challenges. Ive been told by my doctor that HIIT is not recommended for those with AI because the body will believe its being attacked. It just stinks. Right now, I am trying to make it work but might not be able to stay with OTF much longer.",我患有纤维肌痛，春季参加了dri tri比赛后，接连三个月都有问题。对我来说，一切都变得更严重了！我也很有竞争心，但不得不学会何时能拼一把，何时不能。真遗憾你也面临挑战。我的医生告诉我，患有自身免疫疾病的人不建议进行高强度间歇训练，因为身体会误以为受到攻击。真糟糕。目前我正在努力优化情况，但可能无法继续留在OTF太久了。,0 3597,e889g7j,Sarms will mess up your TRT in the sense that they will lower SHGB giving you higher free test and estrogen as well. You might need to take an AI with it. I had bad acne breakouts on TRT and Sarms. Dont get bloods for your doctor until you've been off 6 weeks. Get private bloodwork if you want.,Sarms will mess up your TRT in the sense that they will lower SHGB giving you higher free test and estrogen as well. You might need to take an AI with it. I had bad acne breakouts on TRT and Sarms. Dont get bloods for your doctor until you've been off 6 weeks. Get private bloodwork if you want.,Sarms 会对你的TRT产生影响，它会降低SHGB，使你的游离睾酮和雌激素水平升高。可能需要同时服用AI。我在进行TRT和Sarms时出现了严重的痤疮。停药至少6周后再去医生那里检查血液。如果你想要测试，那就私下去验血吧。,0 3944,e8fcn53,"regardless of the method of collecting your healthdata (might be through excrements, but might also be through smartwatches and/or implanted microchips), I for one think the AI development in this field might be one of the most interesting ones. The AI would have all your health info, and would outperform any human doctor in evaluating your health, and could therefor suggest all kinds of measures you could take to improve your health. Not only nutrition wise but also about what fysical exercise you should do, what habits to kick,... All catered to your specific constitution, ailments, body type. As you say, we might invision a future where your digital Doc is then connected to your grocery delivery system and chooses your food for you, signs you up for fitness courses,... Amazon and Windows are already developing Alexa and Cortana to gather health data, so it might be closer than we think.","regardless of the method of collecting your healthdata (might be through excrements, but might also be through smartwatches andor implanted microchips), I for one think the AI development in this field might be one of the most interesting ones. The AI would have all your health info, and would outperform any human doctor in evaluating your health, and could therefor suggest all kinds of measures you could take to improve your health. Not only nutrition wise but also about what fysical exercise you should do, what habits to kick,... All catered to your specific constitution, ailments, body type. As you say, we might invision a future where your digital Doc is then connected to your grocery delivery system and chooses your food for you, signs you up for fitness courses,... Amazon and Windows are already developing Alexa and Cortana to gather health data, so it might be closer than we think.","不管是通过排泄物收集健康数据的方法，还是通过智能手表和/或植入式微芯片收集，我个人认为，在这个领域的人工智能发展可能是最有趣的之一。人工智能将拥有你所有的健康信息，比任何人类医生都能更好地评估你的健康状况，因此可以建议你采取各种措施来改善健康。不仅仅是营养方面，还包括你应该做什么体力活动，要改掉什么习惯等等，所有这些都是根据你的特定体质、疾病和体型来量身定制的。 正如你所说，我们可能可以设想一个未来，你的数字医生将连接到你的杂货送货系统，并为你选择食物，为你报名健身课程……亚马逊和微软已经在开发Alexa和Cortana来收集健康数据，所以它可能比我们想象的更近。",1 4620,e8hfpfd,"Yea, we are definitely getting ""dumber"" on average thanks to technology. Going to be posting a small doomsday rant here >< >mass consumer product See the problem is, no mass consumer product is ever going to educate consumers (ones that do will never become a mass product) on the technical aspects of the product. Phones do not tell you anything about electronics and the new banking apps and social media tell you nothing about how easily your details can be exposed to third parties. Most people don't know sh!t about cars, home automation systems, cooking (a lot of colleagues of mine hardly cook), human biology (doctors and pills fix everything!!) and a ton of other things taken for granted. We don't want to know what is behind the curtain, we just want the show in front of it. Creating an AI lifeform will be the final nail of the coffin when it decides that a majority of humanity is too lazy/stupid/dangerous to leave unchecked. ","Yea, we are definitely getting ""dumber"" on average thanks to technology. Going to be posting a small doomsday rant here gt;lt; gt;mass consumer product See the problem is, no mass consumer product is ever going to educate consumers (ones that do will never become a mass product) on the technical aspects of the product. Phones do not tell you anything about electronics and the new banking apps and social media tell you nothing about how easily your details can be exposed to third parties. Most people don't know sh!t about cars, home automation systems, cooking (a lot of colleagues of mine hardly cook), human biology (doctors and pills fix everything!!) and a ton of other things taken for granted. We don't want to know what is behind the curtain, we just want the show in front of it. Creating an AI lifeform will be the final nail of the coffin when it decides that a majority of humanity is too lazystupiddangerous to leave unchecked.","是的，我们确实因为科技而变得越来越“笨”。我要在这里发一点小小的末日怨言。 看问题是，任何大众消费品都不会教育消费者（那些能够教育的产品永远不会成为大众产品）关于产品的技术方面。 手机不会告诉你任何关于电子产品的信息，而新的银行应用和社交媒体也不会告诉你你的个人信息如何容易暴露给第三方。大多数人对汽车、家用自动化系统、烹饪（我很多同事几乎不下厨）以及人体生物学（医生和药片可以解决一切！）以及许多其他被视为理所当然的事情一无所知。 我们不想知道幕后发生了什么，我们只想看舞台上的表演。 当一个人工智能生命体决定大部分人类太懒惰/愚蠢/危险而留置不管时，这将是最后的致命一击。",0 3372,e8hi55s,"The lack of human NPCs doesn't HAVE to be a problem in a settling like Fallout. I can think of plenty of nonhuman NPCs that were interesting and had plenty of personality: Sawbones (Mister Gutsy ""Doctor) Wadsworth (Mister Handy butler) Deputies Steel and Weld (Megaton Sherrif's Deputies) Seargent RL-3 (Mister Gutsy follower) Godfrey (Mister Handy butler) Andy (Mister Handy ""doctor"" Vault 101) John Henry Eden (President of the Enclave and ZAX AI) Mister New Vegas (AI radio host) Rhonda (insane(?) Mister Handy and Tabitha's best friend) Fisto (Protectron ""sex worker"") Victor (Securitron AI ""cowboy"") Deputy Beagle (Protectron deputy/Sheriff) ED-E (Eyebot follower) The Think Tank (used to be human, now not so much) Biological Research Station (the Sink) Blind Diode Johnson (the Sink) Book Shoot (the Sink) Muggy (the Sink) Lightswitches 01 and 02 (the Sink) Sink Auto Doc (the Sink) Sink Central Intelligence Unit (the Sink) Toaster (the Sink) Doctor Orderly MD PHD DDS (serious Mister Handy Doctor) Peepers (Eyebot Atomcats pet(?)) Liberty Prime (atypical but definitely a unique personality) Molly (Miss Nanny receptionist) Deezer (Mister Handy lemonade enthusiast) Percy (Mister Handy retail worker) Miss Edna (Miss Nanny school teacher interested in romance) Takahashi (apparently Japanese Protectron noodle enthusiast) General Atomics Galleria (lots of unique, insane, Mister Handys) KL-E-0 (Assaultron fully independent small business owner...and apparently she's ""a woman baby. Can't you tell?"") Supervisors Brown, Greene and White (Mister Handy gardeners) P.A.M. (unique predictive analytics engine in an Assaultron body) Codsworth (Mister Handy butler/follower) Sarge (unique Sentry Bot...he may not count) There is a Mister Gutsy lab assistant on the Prydwen who's name escapes me Cerberus (Mister Guty Underworld security) The lads on the USS Contitution Curie (Miss Handy researcher and follower) Nick Valentine (unique Gen 2 synth AI detective) Ada (unique...whatever follower) Various at Vault 118 (robots and transhuman ""robobrains"") N.I.R.A. (Nukaworld information) The Dry Rock Gulch Sheriffs I'm sure I missed lots of others but the above should be sufficient to demonstrate that just because an NPC is a ""robot"" it doesn't have to be dull, boring or lacking in personality. ","The lack of human NPCs doesn't HAVE to be a problem in a settling like Fallout. I can think of plenty of nonhuman NPCs that were interesting and had plenty of personality: Sawbones (Mister Gutsy ""Doctor) Wadsworth (Mister Handy butler) Deputies Steel and Weld (Megaton Sherrif's Deputies) Seargent RL-3 (Mister Gutsy follower) Godfrey (Mister Handy butler) Andy (Mister Handy ""doctor"" Vault 101) John Henry Eden (President of the Enclave and ZAX AI) Mister New Vegas (AI radio host) Rhonda (insane(?) Mister Handy and Tabitha's best friend) Fisto (Protectron ""sex worker"") Victor (Securitron AI ""cowboy"") Deputy Beagle (Protectron deputySheriff) ED-E (Eyebot follower) The Think Tank (used to be human, now not so much) Biological Research Station (the Sink) Blind Diode Johnson (the Sink) Book Shoot (the Sink) Muggy (the Sink) Lightswitches 01 and 02 (the Sink) Sink Auto Doc (the Sink) Sink Central Intelligence Unit (the Sink) Toaster (the Sink) Doctor Orderly MD PHD DDS (serious Mister Handy Doctor) Peepers (Eyebot Atomcats pet(?)) Liberty Prime (atypical but definitely a unique personality) Molly (Miss Nanny receptionist) Deezer (Mister Handy lemonade enthusiast) Percy (Mister Handy retail worker) Miss Edna (Miss Nanny school teacher interested in romance) Takahashi (apparently Japanese Protectron noodle enthusiast) General Atomics Galleria (lots of unique, insane, Mister Handys) KL-E-0 (Assaultron fully independent small business owner...and apparently she's ""a woman baby. Can't you tell?"") Supervisors Brown, Greene and White (Mister Handy gardeners) P.A.M. (unique predictive analytics engine in an Assaultron body) Codsworth (Mister Handy butlerfollower) Sarge (unique Sentry Bot...he may not count) There is a Mister Gutsy lab assistant on the Prydwen who's name escapes me Cerberus (Mister Guty Underworld security) The lads on the USS Contitution Curie (Miss Handy researcher and follower) Nick Valentine (unique Gen 2 synth AI detective) Ada (unique...whatever follower) Various at Vault 118 (robots and transhuman ""robobrains"") N.I.R.A. (Nukaworld information) The Dry Rock Gulch Sheriffs I'm sure I missed lots of others but the above should be sufficient to demonstrate that just because an NPC is a ""robot"" it doesn't have to be dull, boring or lacking in personality.",在辐射这种设定下，缺乏人类NPC其实并不一定是个问题。我可以想到很多非人类NPC都很有趣，而且拥有丰富的个性。比如说医生型的Mister Gutsy "Sawbones"、管家型的Mister Handy "Wadsworth"、Megaton镇的代理警长Mister Handy "Deputies Steel and Weld"、Mister Gutsy "Seargent RL-3"、Mister Handy "Godfrey"、Vault 101的Mister Handy "医生" Andy、Enclave总统和ZAX AI的John Henry Eden、AI电台主持Mister New Vegas、疯狂的Mister Handy "Rhonda"、还有Protectron "性工作者" Fisto、Securitron AI "牛仔" Victor、Protectron代理警长"Sheriff" Deputy Beagle、方眼机器人"ED-E"、The Think Tank、Biological Research Station等等。这些非人类NPC的独特性格足以证明，不是人类的NPC也未必乏味。,0 1527,e8j7n6k,"Doctor copay-$35 5cc 200mg/ml test e -$12 (not covered by insurance) but she sends with 3 refills. Ai- 30 1mg -$13 Labwork free ",Doctor copay-35 5cc 200mgml test e -12 (not covered by insurance) but she sends with 3 refills. Ai- 30 1mg -13 Labwork free,"看病医生要自付$35。 5cc 200mg/ml的试验E液要$12（保险不包括），但医生开了3次的处方。 艾药30粒1毫克的要$13。 检查费用免费。",0 672,e8pb4u1,"Shadow King and Khonshu for Doctor Strange. Juggernaut, Moses Magnum, Exterminatrix, and Silver Samurai for Black Panther. Broccoli Men, Orb, Ai Apaec, and Grey Gargoyle for Moon Knight. Lady Deathstrike for Daredevil. Ord of the Breakworld, Lady Hellbender, and American Kaiju for Captain Marvel. Toxic Doxie and Ezekiel Stane for X-Men.","Shadow King and Khonshu for Doctor Strange. Juggernaut, Moses Magnum, Exterminatrix, and Silver Samurai for Black Panther. Broccoli Men, Orb, Ai Apaec, and Grey Gargoyle for Moon Knight. Lady Deathstrike for Daredevil. Ord of the Breakworld, Lady Hellbender, and American Kaiju for Captain Marvel. Toxic Doxie and Ezekiel Stane for X-Men.","Doctor Strange找影王和Khonshu。 Black Panther遇到了猛犸象、摧毁者、终结者和银侍。 Moon Knight面对着西兰花人、宙斯、艾·阿帕克和灰色石像鬼。 Daredevil则遇到了死亡打击。 Captain Marvel面对着Breakworld的Ord、Hellbender女士、以及美国巨兽。 X战警遇到了有毒的玩家和伊泽基尔·斯坦。",0 80,e8s99y8,"And yet all the other AI testing methadologies make human conclusions almost a coin toss. Unless the diagnosis makes the physician and hospital profit, then it's necessary surgery and therapy every time. Profit and loss is important in competetive markets. [Article](https://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/2018/07/25/trial-nears-hospital-owner-admits-bribing-doctors-high-volume-lucrative-surgeries)","And yet all the other AI testing methadologies make human conclusions almost a coin toss. Unless the diagnosis makes the physician and hospital profit, then it's necessary surgery and therapy every time. Profit and loss is important in competetive markets. Article(https:www.dallasnews.comnewscrime20180725trial-nears-hospital-owner-admits-bribing-doctors-high-volume-lucrative-surgeries)",尽管其他AI测试方法都几乎像抛硬币那样难以得出人类的结论。除非确诊能给医生和医院带来收益，否则每次都会进行必要的手术和治疗。利润和损失在竞争激烈的市场中很重要。 [文章](https://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/2018/07/25/trial-nears-hospital-owner-admits-bribing-doctors-high-volume-lucrative-surgeries),1 3737,e8v1nlp,"People program, for example, some people in finance program in SQL, VBA, etc. However, AI is an advanced topic even for CS students, and therefore a very different thing. He is still a law student as well, and trying to master two entirely different things at the same time wont work. Its like telling a doctor to learn how to engineer his own EKG. ","People program, for example, some people in finance program in SQL, VBA, etc. However, AI is an advanced topic even for CS students, and therefore a very different thing. He is still a law student as well, and trying to master two entirely different things at the same time wont work. Its like telling a doctor to learn how to engineer his own EKG.",有些人学习编程，比如一些金融学生学习SQL、VBA等。但是，对于计算机科学专业的学生来说，人工智能是一个很高级的话题，跟其他的完全不同。他还是一名法学生，同时想要掌握两件完全不同的东西是不现实的。这就好比让医生学会如何做心电图的工程设计一样。,0 3865,e8vhzgc,"Here's a thought. There's this AI software that pastes someone's face over video of another person, it's called Deep Fake. You can guess what it's mostly used for, but Hollywood opposes getting it or anything like it banned because they could do cool things with it. I'm thinking use it to make Cushing's Doctor verses Lee's Master happen. Skilled actors could get the body movements right, skilled mimics could get the voices right, and skilled VFX guys could clean up the occasional glitches in the technology.","Here's a thought. There's this AI software that pastes someone's face over video of another person, it's called Deep Fake. You can guess what it's mostly used for, but Hollywood opposes getting it or anything like it banned because they could do cool things with it. I'm thinking use it to make Cushing's Doctor verses Lee's Master happen. Skilled actors could get the body movements right, skilled mimics could get the voices right, and skilled VFX guys could clean up the occasional glitches in the technology.",有个想法。有个叫Deep Fake的人工智能软件，可以把一个人的脸贴到另一个人的视频上。你猜它主要被用来干什么，但好莱坞反对禁止它或其他类似的东西，因为他们可以用它来做很酷的事情。我在想要不要用它来让Cushing的博士和Lee的大师对戏成真。技术娴熟的演员能模仿身体动作，技术娴熟的模仿者能模仿声音，而技术娴熟的视觉特效师可以清理技术偶尔出现的小故障。,0 4688,e8vpzxo,"I'm gonna take the Revengers. Doctor Strange and Thor can both teleport to each other's bases and take each other's stone, Doctor Strange using the Time Stone's hax and Thor using raw strength. I'm giving this to the Revengers however since their members are a lot stronger, Heimdall can see Strange coming from worlds away, and Loki can trick Strange with illusions. The Revengers then go to Stark's base while disabling their AI security and trap Vision in a time loop to take the stone. The Revengers then go to Cap's Helicarrier and easily take it. Loki can trick his way into Xandar to take the Power Stone and Thor with Stormbreaker can beat Maw and Thanos without the gauntlet","I'm gonna take the Revengers. Doctor Strange and Thor can both teleport to each other's bases and take each other's stone, Doctor Strange using the Time Stone's hax and Thor using raw strength. I'm giving this to the Revengers however since their members are a lot stronger, Heimdall can see Strange coming from worlds away, and Loki can trick Strange with illusions. The Revengers then go to Stark's base while disabling their AI security and trap Vision in a time loop to take the stone. The Revengers then go to Cap's Helicarrier and easily take it. Loki can trick his way into Xandar to take the Power Stone and Thor with Stormbreaker can beat Maw and Thanos without the gauntlet","我打算选复仇者联盟。奇异博士和索尔都可以相互传送到对方的基地，夺取对方的宝石，奇异博士利用时间宝石的特殊能力，索尔凭借原始力量。不过我还是支持复仇者联盟，因为他们的成员实力更强大，海姆达尔可以从世界的尽头看到奇异的出现，洛基可以用幻术欺骗奇异。 然后复仇者联盟前往斯塔克的基地，关闭人工智能安全系统，困住幻视，夺取宝石。 接着，复仇者联盟轻松地夺取了美国队长的直升飞机母舰。 洛基可以用诡计进入瑟达尔夺取力量宝石，索尔用风暴之斧可以打败莫尔和灭霸，就算没有无限手套。",0 2170,e8w59eg,"I don't think I'm explaining it correctly. The software could do a single thing for a single scenario. Great, that helps in *that* scenario with *that* thing. If I trained you, you could do *any* NDA with *any* set of facts. Computers don't diagnose you. My wife is a doctor, no computer diagnoses diseases yet, there is nothing approved for that. There are some articles about computers trained on one specific thing, but a doctor that does not make. Want proof? Use WebMD, you either have a cold or brain cancer. And if you don't think software licenses cost what a person does, well... they do. A basic Westlaw subscription is like $40,000 per year and that isn't getting you anything close to AI. Computers are great for performing repetitive tasks that have a very specific answer. When there isn't a clear answer, as is the case with most professional questions, a human had to do it. Believe me, if I could type in ""find me cases in support of a petitioners successful argument that a trademark can be filed for a business with the same name as a varietal or cultivar"" and have it find a case, and if there is no case, find as many close cases or cases where the principles can be extended to mine as a logical argument, then write a memo on that, I'll buy it right now, for as much money as it costs. Oh, and that's a question from a lawyer. Good luck getting what I just said out of a client. They don't know *anything* helpful. Alas, I'll be retired before anything like that even remotely exists; and I'm not that old.","I don't think I'm explaining it correctly. The software could do a single thing for a single scenario. Great, that helps in that scenario with that thing. If I trained you, you could do any NDA with any set of facts. Computers don't diagnose you. My wife is a doctor, no computer diagnoses diseases yet, there is nothing approved for that. There are some articles about computers trained on one specific thing, but a doctor that does not make. Want proof? Use WebMD, you either have a cold or brain cancer. And if you don't think software licenses cost what a person does, well... they do. A basic Westlaw subscription is like 40,000 per year and that isn't getting you anything close to AI. Computers are great for performing repetitive tasks that have a very specific answer. When there isn't a clear answer, as is the case with most professional questions, a human had to do it. Believe me, if I could type in ""find me cases in support of a petitioners successful argument that a trademark can be filed for a business with the same name as a varietal or cultivar"" and have it find a case, and if there is no case, find as many close cases or cases where the principles can be extended to mine as a logical argument, then write a memo on that, I'll buy it right now, for as much money as it costs. Oh, and that's a question from a lawyer. Good luck getting what I just said out of a client. They don't know anything helpful. Alas, I'll be retired before anything like that even remotely exists; and I'm not that old.","我觉得我没有解释清楚。 这个软件只能针对一个具体情况做一件事。这点很好，对*那个*具体情况以及*那个*事情有帮助。如果我培训你，你就能处理*任何*保密协议书和*任何*一组事实。 计算机不会给你做诊断。我的妻子是医生，目前还没有计算机能够诊断疾病，也没有被批准用于这方面。虽然有一些关于计算机针对特定事物进行训练的文章，但那也不法医生。 想要证明吗？用WebMD试试，要么你得了感冒，要么就是脑癌。 而且如果你觉得软件许可的费用不如人的工资高，唉……其实是高的。Westlaw的基本订阅每年要花费大约40000美元，但那还不能让你拥有接近智能人工的东西。 计算机在执行反复性任务以及需要非常具体答案的情况下表现得很好。但在大部分专业问题无法给出清晰答案的情况下，还是需要人类来处理。 相信我，如果我能输入“找到支持申请人成功主张商标可以与杂交种或栽培品相同名称的业务进行注册的案例”，让它找到一个案例，如果没有案例，也能找到尽量接近的案例或者可以推广到我的情况的案例作为逻辑主张，然后写一份备忘录。我现在就会花钱购买它，不管价钱多高。 哦，这是一个律师的问题。祝你好运让客户明白我刚说的话。他们对*任何*有帮助的东西一无所知。 唉，这样的东西甚至不可能存在，我都要退休了；而我还没老呢。",1 3742,e8y3pta,"See if the guys making plague inc would be up for the disease you make as a kind of ai or in multiplayer it could be a extra player who has to infect the whole world ?? Could be a fun addition to the game like a DLC ?? A new district for medicine could counter it ? There could be Ancient tribal medicine people ( upgraded depending on tech to modern doctors ) who go from city to city and can go to city states and other countries to rid them of diseases .... More powerful units like the French Doctors Without Borders or the Australian flying doctors ",See if the guys making plague inc would be up for the disease you make as a kind of ai or in multiplayer it could be a extra player who has to infect the whole world ?? Could be a fun addition to the game like a DLC ?? A new district for medicine could counter it ? There could be Ancient tribal medicine people ( upgraded depending on tech to modern doctors ) who go from city to city and can go to city states and other countries to rid them of diseases .... More powerful units like the French Doctors Without Borders or the Australian flying doctors,"看看《瘟疫公司》的开发团队会不会搞一个你制造的疾病角色，可以在单人模式中当作AI，或者在多人游戏中作为额外的玩家，需要感染整个世界？这可能会是游戏的有趣附加内容，就像一个DLC？ 或者再开发一个医疗区，可以对抗这个疾病？ 还可以有古老的部落医生（随技术升级变成现代医生），他们可以走遍各个城市，甚至去到城邦和其他国家驱除疾病...... 还可以有更强大的单位，比如法国无国界医生组织或澳大利亚飞行医生。",0 1646,e90643k,"Not sure if it will be true but law is one area that AI could disrupt in the future. Basically the computers will ""know"" every single case and be able to spit out somewhat reasonable advice, like what robo-advisors have started doing for investing. Google it. Lots of aging people however who will rewuire a lot of medical care. There are also RNs who take on more responsibikities traditionally handle exclusively by doctors (easy diagnosis, prescriptions). But if you have poor health, late night shift work seems to relate to earlier death or more health problems.","Not sure if it will be true but law is one area that AI could disrupt in the future. Basically the computers will ""know"" every single case and be able to spit out somewhat reasonable advice, like what robo-advisors have started doing for investing. Google it. Lots of aging people however who will rewuire a lot of medical care. There are also RNs who take on more responsibikities traditionally handle exclusively by doctors (easy diagnosis, prescriptions). But if you have poor health, late night shift work seems to relate to earlier death or more health problems.","不确定这是否会成真，但法律可能是人工智能未来可能颠覆的领域之一。基本上，计算机将“了解”每个案例，并能够吐出一些相对合理的建议，就像投资领域已经开始采用的机器人顾问一样。去谷歌一下吧。 然而，有很多年迈的人需要大量的医疗护理。还有一些注册护士承担了传统上只由医生负责的更多职责（简单诊断、开处方）。但如果你的健康状况不好，晚班似乎与更早的死亡或更多的健康问题有关。",0