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Funny you mention the grumpy old man because I was literally writing a post talking about "what 18 year old me would do".
Now get off my lawn.
Seriously, though, I hope it isn't anything other than optimistic. Mining is what it always has been, my post doesn't change any of the facts or realities.
If you're searching and already interested in mining, why not:
- Learn CUDA/OpenCL for AI/ML/CV/etc. This is HUGE. Only going to get better and bigger. If I was still interested in building a career this is what I would go for now. I cannot stress how valuable this skill set is and how much growth potential there is. The biggest barrier to entry here are the expensive GPUs and guess what - you already have those!
- Systems administration. Install Linux on your rig (or dual boot a few hours a day) and get under the hood. The software is free, the docs are there, and the potential is almost limitless. Without getting into too much personal detail this is where I hit it big.
- Networking. Mining rigs communicate over the network. Get a cheap refurbished router/switch/etc beyond the standard Linksys and play with everything from traffic shaping to Wake-on-Lan.
- Embedded systems. Get a Raspberry PI or Arduino and some sensors, relays, etc, etc to monitor and control your rig remotely. The Raspberry PI runs Linux too so all of the points above are valid (people are even doing some legit computer vision stuff on RPI these days).
I disagree with your conclusion. A technology career is the only career I know of where all of the following is true:
- No college is required.
- No professional certification is required.
- Growth is guaranteed.
- The average income is far above national average income for almost all other professions.
- You can "hit the lottery" with a startup.
The best (and highest paid) developers I've ever worked with started with nothing more than a work ethic, computer, and internet connection. They make more and have higher job security than most doctors or lawyers. You absolutely cannot say the same thing about any other endeavor.
I'm talking about this here because if you're interested in mining you're already on your way.
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Funny you mention the grumpy old man because I was literally writing a post talking about "what 18 year old me would do". Now get off my lawn. Seriously, though, I hope it isn't anything other than optimistic. Mining is what it always has been, my post doesn't change any of the facts or realities. If you're searching and already interested in mining, why not: - Learn CUDAOpenCL for AIMLCVetc. This is HUGE. Only going to get better and bigger. If I was still interested in building a career this is what I would go for now. I cannot stress how valuable this skill set is and how much growth potential there is. The biggest barrier to entry here are the expensive GPUs and guess what - you already have those! - Systems administration. Install Linux on your rig (or dual boot a few hours a day) and get under the hood. The software is free, the docs are there, and the potential is almost limitless. Without getting into too much personal detail this is where I hit it big. - Networking. Mining rigs communicate over the network. Get a cheap refurbished routerswitchetc beyond the standard Linksys and play with everything from traffic shaping to Wake-on-Lan. - Embedded systems. Get a Raspberry PI or Arduino and some sensors, relays, etc, etc to monitor and control your rig remotely. The Raspberry PI runs Linux too so all of the points above are valid (people are even doing some legit computer vision stuff on RPI these days). I disagree with your conclusion. A technology career is the only career I know of where all of the following is true: - No college is required. - No professional certification is required. - Growth is guaranteed. - The average income is far above national average income for almost all other professions. - You can "hit the lottery" with a startup. The best (and highest paid) developers I've ever worked with started with nothing more than a work ethic, computer, and internet connection. They make more and have higher job security than most doctors or lawyers. You absolutely cannot say the same thing about any other endeavor. I'm talking about this here because if you're interested in mining you're already on your way.
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The cross-guard saber wasnt what everyone used during that era. It was just popular configuration during the period of that Jedi purge of the Sith and of the Scourge of Malachor. [Maul had a vision on Malachor of the Purge and the Sith that resided there had standard single bladed sabers, while the jedi used the crossguard saber. ](https://i.imgur.com/DZXbKCf.jpg)
We've seen other instances of lightsabers from the canon Old Republic era and they all look like standard single bladed sabers. Doctor Aphra has many examples of this.
[Aphra recovering sabers from the Ordu Aspectu temple](https://i.imgur.com/xeMmKuX.jpg)
[From Immortal Rur AI's retelling of the events that led to the fall of the Ordu Aspectu](https://i.imgur.com/zun0mog.jpg)
[Aphra igniting one to destroy Immortal Rur](https://i.imgur.com/3rwDp2p.jpg)
[Aphra recovering one from a downed Old Republic era fighter craft](https://i.imgur.com/KD7z7V9.jpg)
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The cross-guard saber wasnt what everyone used during that era. It was just popular configuration during the period of that Jedi purge of the Sith and of the Scourge of Malachor. Maul had a vision on Malachor of the Purge and the Sith that resided there had standard single bladed sabers, while the jedi used the crossguard saber. (https:i.imgur.comDZXbKCf.jpg) We've seen other instances of lightsabers from the canon Old Republic era and they all look like standard single bladed sabers. Doctor Aphra has many examples of this. Aphra recovering sabers from the Ordu Aspectu temple(https:i.imgur.comxeMmKuX.jpg) From Immortal Rur AI's retelling of the events that led to the fall of the Ordu Aspectu(https:i.imgur.comzun0mog.jpg) Aphra igniting one to destroy Immortal Rur(https:i.imgur.com3rwDp2p.jpg) Aphra recovering one from a downed Old Republic era fighter craft(https:i.imgur.comKD7z7V9.jpg)
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I would say that we are in for a different revolution. The industrial revolution involved all kinds of new tools that greatly increased productivity. To be sure, jobs associated with old tools (breeding horses, for example) went away but were replaced with new jobs for the new tools (manufacturing of cars instead). With robots and AI, however, in many cases humans will be directly replaced. The big thing coming, for example, autonomous vehicles, will directly replace current workers and will save trucking and taxi companies and Uber immense amounts of money. Supposedly, AI will soon be able to do the bread and butter work of accountants, lawyers (discovery, for example), physicians, and so on.
On the long term, androids and robots will be made that can be programmed and/or augmented to do any job humans can but better. The question then, as you addressed, will be whether the android or robot will be cheaper than just using a human, but with time for sure humans will end up being more expensive.
There was a Twilight Zone episode on this where the guy puts something like 4k people out of work by automating his factory, but in the end, is replaced himself by a robot (the famous Robby the robot that appeared in alot of shows).
Another thing, maybe less impactful but visible nonetheless is the outsourcing of jobs to the customers. Lowe's, Home Depot, Walmart, McDonald's, et al. all have self serve checkout or self ordering with one attendant instead of 4+ cashiers to do the same job.
The only saving grace is that all the increased productivity will need people with money to purchase the goods and services. It is sad that people will likely have to suffer (and have done for a long time) before this will be addressed adequately.
Eventually, when the oligarchs have automated production of food, products, and services including food, weapons, etc., and automated researchers, energy production, soldiers, and entertainers, then what use will they have for the masses?
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I would say that we are in for a different revolution. The industrial revolution involved all kinds of new tools that greatly increased productivity. To be sure, jobs associated with old tools (breeding horses, for example) went away but were replaced with new jobs for the new tools (manufacturing of cars instead). With robots and AI, however, in many cases humans will be directly replaced. The big thing coming, for example, autonomous vehicles, will directly replace current workers and will save trucking and taxi companies and Uber immense amounts of money. Supposedly, AI will soon be able to do the bread and butter work of accountants, lawyers (discovery, for example), physicians, and so on. On the long term, androids and robots will be made that can be programmed andor augmented to do any job humans can but better. The question then, as you addressed, will be whether the android or robot will be cheaper than just using a human, but with time for sure humans will end up being more expensive. There was a Twilight Zone episode on this where the guy puts something like 4k people out of work by automating his factory, but in the end, is replaced himself by a robot (the famous Robby the robot that appeared in alot of shows). Another thing, maybe less impactful but visible nonetheless is the outsourcing of jobs to the customers. Lowe's, Home Depot, Walmart, McDonald's, et al. all have self serve checkout or self ordering with one attendant instead of 4 cashiers to do the same job. The only saving grace is that all the increased productivity will need people with money to purchase the goods and services. It is sad that people will likely have to suffer (and have done for a long time) before this will be addressed adequately. Eventually, when the oligarchs have automated production of food, products, and services including food, weapons, etc., and automated researchers, energy production, soldiers, and entertainers, then what use will they have for the masses?
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There won't be any jobs left in 10 years. AI is already replacing doctors and lawyers.
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There won't be any jobs left in 10 years. AI is already replacing doctors and lawyers.
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If the recent history of medicine is any guide, the big investors pulling the strings of hospital practices are going to ditch doctors the second that anything else is more profitable, irrespective of what that does for patient wellness.
Hard to say when AI might fit that bill. A lot of the job doesn't seem like a narrow-ai sort of challenge to me, so probably not until after some kind of singularity event. When's that? I'm feeling like less than ten years, but lots of people think later, if ever.
In the mean time, we'll probably see narrow AI take over some portion of the job, especially diagnosis, surgery, dosage, and all things records and billing.
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If the recent history of medicine is any guide, the big investors pulling the strings of hospital practices are going to ditch doctors the second that anything else is more profitable, irrespective of what that does for patient wellness. Hard to say when AI might fit that bill. A lot of the job doesn't seem like a narrow-ai sort of challenge to me, so probably not until after some kind of singularity event. When's that? I'm feeling like less than ten years, but lots of people think later, if ever. In the mean time, we'll probably see narrow AI take over some portion of the job, especially diagnosis, surgery, dosage, and all things records and billing.
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I??m pretty sure he??s responding to what it says in the thumbnail about AI replacing doctors.
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Im pretty sure hes responding to what it says in the thumbnail about AI replacing doctors.
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Also on the contrary, I have lupus and a major factor of it is fatigue. I would come home after school and need to nap for hours, my mom thought I was depressed. Then she took me to the doctor and found out it was because of AI. The human body is a strange thing..
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Also on the contrary, I have lupus and a major factor of it is fatigue. I would come home after school and need to nap for hours, my mom thought I was depressed. Then she took me to the doctor and found out it was because of AI. The human body is a strange thing..
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For a warehouse, I think it's a little understandable to see robots taking over the hard stuff, but with the other jobs: lawyers, writers, nurses, doctors? I mean, people can argue that AI nurses and doctors are better because they don't have to sleep, but the question is does AI really have to replace humans? Can't they work side by side like Amazon is doing now?
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For a warehouse, I think it's a little understandable to see robots taking over the hard stuff, but with the other jobs: lawyers, writers, nurses, doctors? I mean, people can argue that AI nurses and doctors are better because they don't have to sleep, but the question is does AI really have to replace humans? Can't they work side by side like Amazon is doing now?
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this is why AI will be the real doctors of the future and doctors will effectively become nurses.
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this is why AI will be the real doctors of the future and doctors will effectively become nurses.
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I know I'm generalizing and you might not be a typical Trump supporter. I know there are Trump supporters who are just misguided. I don't know what percent of Trump supporters are the ignorant pricks I incorrectly generalized you all as in the above comment. I do know that almost all of America's ignorant idiots are Trump supporters.
You have to stop using the word "elitist" if you want to be taken seriously by anyone who isn't trailer trash. You're telling me that you look down on people who value intelligence. All that tells me is that you're ignorant. It's not correct to assume that I look down on others who are less educated or intelligent. I don't think less of people for that. I think less of people for tribalism, hatred, ignorance, and trolling. That's you, Trump supporter.
> I can assure you my family is far more educated than yours can ever hope to be.
You cannot assure me of that. I'll go ahead and tell you about the education levels in my family, and your only defense will be to accuse me of making it all up. My father is a medical doctor. My mother is an English professor. My brother is a software engineer for a venture capitalist in Silicon Valley. My last romantic partner was a director in neurotech at MIT, and my current partner is the world's leading expert on water soluble polymers. My last two jobs were as an engineer for a neural implant company, and an AI researcher at Google. Currently I help design the world's fastest hard drives. Your move.
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I know I'm generalizing and you might not be a typical Trump supporter. I know there are Trump supporters who are just misguided. I don't know what percent of Trump supporters are the ignorant pricks I incorrectly generalized you all as in the above comment. I do know that almost all of America's ignorant idiots are Trump supporters. You have to stop using the word "elitist" if you want to be taken seriously by anyone who isn't trailer trash. You're telling me that you look down on people who value intelligence. All that tells me is that you're ignorant. It's not correct to assume that I look down on others who are less educated or intelligent. I don't think less of people for that. I think less of people for tribalism, hatred, ignorance, and trolling. That's you, Trump supporter. gt; I can assure you my family is far more educated than yours can ever hope to be. You cannot assure me of that. I'll go ahead and tell you about the education levels in my family, and your only defense will be to accuse me of making it all up. My father is a medical doctor. My mother is an English professor. My brother is a software engineer for a venture capitalist in Silicon Valley. My last romantic partner was a director in neurotech at MIT, and my current partner is the world's leading expert on water soluble polymers. My last two jobs were as an engineer for a neural implant company, and an AI researcher at Google. Currently I help design the world's fastest hard drives. Your move.
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Your dumb opinion generated heat. These immutable and encrypted networks will be the foundation for the next-gen internet.
These crypto networks are the only answer to AI platforms like Lyrebird AI and Deepfakes. We'll need to expend the energy to verify everything from phone calls and video to medical records.
The only way we'll know AI isn't behind doctored data is via monitoring future proof of stake, high-TPS and decentralized blockchains.
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Your dumb opinion generated heat. These immutable and encrypted networks will be the foundation for the next-gen internet. These crypto networks are the only answer to AI platforms like Lyrebird AI and Deepfakes. We'll need to expend the energy to verify everything from phone calls and video to medical records. The only way we'll know AI isn't behind doctored data is via monitoring future proof of stake, high-TPS and decentralized blockchains.
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the thing is its AI all the way down when you can even replace things like lawyers and doctors with AI yeah thats not going to make many new jobs
the AI can already code new AI and and its already used to design new hardware at some point you have robots maintaining robots building more robots with a hand full of people overseeing them
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the thing is its AI all the way down when you can even replace things like lawyers and doctors with AI yeah thats not going to make many new jobs the AI can already code new AI and and its already used to design new hardware at some point you have robots maintaining robots building more robots with a hand full of people overseeing them
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Noone cares about steroid dealers, only time they get caught is if theyre caught selling other things and gear happens to be with them. Spending <$100 for 4ish months seems more logical than spending >$300/month. Dont really see any need to see a doctor if hes between 100-150mg/wk. If he adds hcg then he will likely need AI.
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Noone cares about steroid dealers, only time they get caught is if theyre caught selling other things and gear happens to be with them. Spending lt;100 for 4ish months seems more logical than spending gt;300month. Dont really see any need to see a doctor if hes between 100-150mgwk. If he adds hcg then he will likely need AI.
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AI for medical diagnosis is an active field of research for just that reason. Doctors are already under so much pressure to stay up to date, and it only gets worse.
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AI for medical diagnosis is an active field of research for just that reason. Doctors are already under so much pressure to stay up to date, and it only gets worse.
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And with an AI doctor, there would be those same checks...
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And with an AI doctor, there would be those same checks...
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>Forced eugenics (bad gene pool is bad, vasectomy of weaklings is good).
Any sufficiently intelligent AI, or person for that matter, would know that forced Eugenics isn't a good thing for society, or humanity. One among many reasons is that [genetic diversity protects against disease](https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/05/180523133324.htm).
>Arranged(by AI government) marriages (with artificial insemination. Declining population is bad)
The human population has been doing just fine without those measures. I don't see why you think an AI would think we'd need them now.
>Deciding who lives where (gene diversity is good, ghost cities are bad)
Gene diversity is good, but forced residence is bad. East and West Berlin, North Korea, society does not benefit from forced residence.
It would be much better for AI to achieve diverse communities by promoting voluntary relocation and housing assistance programs, as well as implementing mass high speed transit so that we essentially become one giant diverse community.
>Forced diet (obesity is bad)
Prohibition is one of the most societally destructive policies. It would be far far easier and less damaging to society for AI to combat obesity and poor nutrition through education.
This is exactly the thing that would put AI above politicians. AI could easily see that education is far more effective than prohibition. Where a human politician would be acting on feelings instead of data.
>Forced work (unemployment is bad)
Slavery and labor camps aren't healthy for society. AI could far more easily solve the problem of labor shortages by calculating and adjusting wages necessary to attract workers to specific jobs.
>Racism, sexism, bunch of other *ismes(input data is biased)
None of those isms are conducive to a healthy society. It's easy to see that historically those all lead to strife and violence. And education and worldliness again are easily seen through data analysis as methods to reduce them.
>..While medical field has such thing as "a lung cancer", where you can literally point on X-ray and say "yep, it's lung cancer"
And [AI is more accurate than doctors at "pointing at the Xray and saying "yep it's cancer"](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/05/28/robots-better-doctors-diagnosing-cancers-major-study-finds/). Doctors that have studied for 8 years and have many more years of experience on top of that are being [outperformed in diagnostics by AI](https://www.marsdd.com/magazine/computers-are-already-better-than-doctors-at-diagnosing-some-diseases/).
AI could potentially also be developed to see the symptoms of a brewing War, Economic Depression, Health Epidemic, Environmental Disaster and choose a course of action to avoid it.
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gt;Forced eugenics (bad gene pool is bad, vasectomy of weaklings is good). Any sufficiently intelligent AI, or person for that matter, would know that forced Eugenics isn't a good thing for society, or humanity. One among many reasons is that genetic diversity protects against disease(https:www.sciencedaily.comreleases201805180523133324.htm). gt;Arranged(by AI government) marriages (with artificial insemination. Declining population is bad) The human population has been doing just fine without those measures. I don't see why you think an AI would think we'd need them now. gt;Deciding who lives where (gene diversity is good, ghost cities are bad) Gene diversity is good, but forced residence is bad. East and West Berlin, North Korea, society does not benefit from forced residence. It would be much better for AI to achieve diverse communities by promoting voluntary relocation and housing assistance programs, as well as implementing mass high speed transit so that we essentially become one giant diverse community. gt;Forced diet (obesity is bad) Prohibition is one of the most societally destructive policies. It would be far far easier and less damaging to society for AI to combat obesity and poor nutrition through education. This is exactly the thing that would put AI above politicians. AI could easily see that education is far more effective than prohibition. Where a human politician would be acting on feelings instead of data. gt;Forced work (unemployment is bad) Slavery and labor camps aren't healthy for society. AI could far more easily solve the problem of labor shortages by calculating and adjusting wages necessary to attract workers to specific jobs. gt;Racism, sexism, bunch of other ismes(input data is biased) None of those isms are conducive to a healthy society. It's easy to see that historically those all lead to strife and violence. And education and worldliness again are easily seen through data analysis as methods to reduce them. gt;..While medical field has such thing as "a lung cancer", where you can literally point on X-ray and say "yep, it's lung cancer" And AI is more accurate than doctors at "pointing at the Xray and saying "yep it's cancer"(https:www.telegraph.co.uknews20180528robots-better-doctors-diagnosing-cancers-major-study-finds). Doctors that have studied for 8 years and have many more years of experience on top of that are being outperformed in diagnostics by AI(https:www.marsdd.commagazinecomputers-are-already-better-than-doctors-at-diagnosing-some-diseases). AI could potentially also be developed to see the symptoms of a brewing War, Economic Depression, Health Epidemic, Environmental Disaster and choose a course of action to avoid it.
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It's definitely my favorite. Love the Doctors, love Big MT and how it's laid out, love the little story between Christina and Father Elijah, love all the unique weapons/armors found there. The talking stealth armor is my favorite thing ever. That and the talking AI Shotgun in Borderlands 2. Although I think the brotherhood would hoard the toasters for themselves rather than destroying them.
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It's definitely my favorite. Love the Doctors, love Big MT and how it's laid out, love the little story between Christina and Father Elijah, love all the unique weaponsarmors found there. The talking stealth armor is my favorite thing ever. That and the talking AI Shotgun in Borderlands 2. Although I think the brotherhood would hoard the toasters for themselves rather than destroying them.
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I just have to say - you honestly can't compare the ratings of Doctors so directly like this - it doesn't reflect any fact at all. There are *waaay* too many mitigating circumstances.
1. Timeslot: S11 airs on a different day and different time of year to most - it's cold outside as opposed to those long hot summers, meaning completely different population of the audience
2. Technology: iPlayer didn't exist until Series 4 - no on demand catch up, in many cases only a couple of repeats on the sister channel over the week
3. Average: The ratings for the first episode (and second, to an extent) skew the average due to the exposure and interest in the first female Doctor
4. Calculation: Ratings have changed in how they're calculated and perceived eg. VOSDAL figures aren't included in series 1
All these factors make this a very unique series in terms of ratings. It's fine for you to say S11 has a good average rating, but comparing it to what's come before is like comparing cats and dogs. You can try, but it's all just supposition, really. You'd do better looking at the show within its timeslot and the AIs for a *real* comparison of how successful it is (and by the way, it's doing just fine - we seem to be settling into a +7 of 7.5\~ and 80\~ AI).
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I just have to say - you honestly can't compare the ratings of Doctors so directly like this - it doesn't reflect any fact at all. There are waaay too many mitigating circumstances. 1. Timeslot: S11 airs on a different day and different time of year to most - it's cold outside as opposed to those long hot summers, meaning completely different population of the audience 2. Technology: iPlayer didn't exist until Series 4 - no on demand catch up, in many cases only a couple of repeats on the sister channel over the week 3. Average: The ratings for the first episode (and second, to an extent) skew the average due to the exposure and interest in the first female Doctor 4. Calculation: Ratings have changed in how they're calculated and perceived eg. VOSDAL figures aren't included in series 1 All these factors make this a very unique series in terms of ratings. It's fine for you to say S11 has a good average rating, but comparing it to what's come before is like comparing cats and dogs. You can try, but it's all just supposition, really. You'd do better looking at the show within its timeslot and the AIs for a real comparison of how successful it is (and by the way, it's doing just fine - we seem to be settling into a 7 of 7.5 and 80 AI).
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Unfortunately, you're about to realize something.
Up until recently, some big parts of life were reasonably unpredictable. You might get a cut on your leg/drink bad water, get infected, and die. You might get the girl next door pregnant by mistake and get married without intending to. The list goes on. Our technology has changed all that and new advancements are coming every day to reinforce those changes.
We are better able to cure disease leaving more people dying of old age. We are better able to understand the mechanisms behind certain functions giving us a chance to create lasting reversible male birth control. This all leads to the current barrier in our advancement. The maximum human biological age cap that you will eventually run into.
Even if you work out, eat right, and leverage advanced technology to defeat cancer or typical disease, you're going to die. You have at best 5 - 7 more decades just like the one you finished before your eyes will close never to open again. Those decades aren't any different than the one you just finished. It is all up to you until the natural cap at the end. You're one of the first generations in human history to be able to choose everything except exactly when it ends. You even know roughly when that is from family history predicting genetics.
5 - 7 more decades.
How will you at 36 be different than you at 26? How about 46 vs. 36? It is still you looking back at yourself in the mirror the same as you ever were one decade closer. At this point, it won't be 5 - 7. Doctors will be telling you more accurate numbers. Some people will be down to 2.
You get to see it coming like a slow moving train you can outrun.
...or do you?
The 2045 project and other efforts to develop anti-aging technology have taken off in every part of the world. Advanced genetics, AI, and the best minds in the world with virtually limitless private funding are pushing into areas we thought would be closed for a long time. That abyss just a few decades off might be pushed back much farther by a [series of injections](https://www.axios.com/potential-boom-is-coming-in-anti-aging-drugs-0855e8c4-e775-46a4-908a-2ccccf601f66.html) currently being tested. That is only step 1 potentially increasing lifespan by up to 35% in the first major push.
You may see your 5 - 7 decades go to 10 - 15 or even 20 - limitless! That gives you more and more and more time. Eventually, we will crack digital ascension allowing you to exceed your biological potential. It all depends on what you choose. That is kind of where we loop back around to life that used to be reasonably unpredictable.
How will 126 year old you be different than 26 year old you? How about 226 year old you? 326 year old you? 726 year old you?
What do you choose to do with the next 700 - 10000 years? It is up to you to decide. Choose again and again and again.
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Unfortunately, you're about to realize something. Up until recently, some big parts of life were reasonably unpredictable. You might get a cut on your legdrink bad water, get infected, and die. You might get the girl next door pregnant by mistake and get married without intending to. The list goes on. Our technology has changed all that and new advancements are coming every day to reinforce those changes. We are better able to cure disease leaving more people dying of old age. We are better able to understand the mechanisms behind certain functions giving us a chance to create lasting reversible male birth control. This all leads to the current barrier in our advancement. The maximum human biological age cap that you will eventually run into. Even if you work out, eat right, and leverage advanced technology to defeat cancer or typical disease, you're going to die. You have at best 5 - 7 more decades just like the one you finished before your eyes will close never to open again. Those decades aren't any different than the one you just finished. It is all up to you until the natural cap at the end. You're one of the first generations in human history to be able to choose everything except exactly when it ends. You even know roughly when that is from family history predicting genetics. 5 - 7 more decades. How will you at 36 be different than you at 26? How about 46 vs. 36? It is still you looking back at yourself in the mirror the same as you ever were one decade closer. At this point, it won't be 5 - 7. Doctors will be telling you more accurate numbers. Some people will be down to 2. You get to see it coming like a slow moving train you can outrun. ...or do you? The 2045 project and other efforts to develop anti-aging technology have taken off in every part of the world. Advanced genetics, AI, and the best minds in the world with virtually limitless private funding are pushing into areas we thought would be closed for a long time. That abyss just a few decades off might be pushed back much farther by a series of injections(https:www.axios.compotential-boom-is-coming-in-anti-aging-drugs-0855e8c4-e775-46a4-908a-2ccccf601f66.html) currently being tested. That is only step 1 potentially increasing lifespan by up to 35 in the first major push. You may see your 5 - 7 decades go to 10 - 15 or even 20 - limitless! That gives you more and more and more time. Eventually, we will crack digital ascension allowing you to exceed your biological potential. It all depends on what you choose. That is kind of where we loop back around to life that used to be reasonably unpredictable. How will 126 year old you be different than 26 year old you? How about 226 year old you? 326 year old you? 726 year old you? What do you choose to do with the next 700 - 10000 years? It is up to you to decide. Choose again and again and again.
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Yea ai utterly hate most people's opinions on mental health where they put work first and completely forgo doing anything to help themselves. My brother the other day when I was asking him for advice told me "it sounds like the therapist that diagnosed you autism is a fruad you should get a second opinion most medical professionals are just in it to make money" I got like quadruple checked from my doctor and 3 therapists on that my doctor sent me to a psychological which I talked to 2 therapists at and 2 therapists worked on the diagnosis and testing and I went to a separate therapist for being trans which didn't really go anywhere.
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Yea ai utterly hate most people's opinions on mental health where they put work first and completely forgo doing anything to help themselves. My brother the other day when I was asking him for advice told me "it sounds like the therapist that diagnosed you autism is a fruad you should get a second opinion most medical professionals are just in it to make money" I got like quadruple checked from my doctor and 3 therapists on that my doctor sent me to a psychological which I talked to 2 therapists at and 2 therapists worked on the diagnosis and testing and I went to a separate therapist for being trans which didn't really go anywhere.
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AI also simplifies tasks and opens up new fields.
Makes it easier to train more doctors, allows less talented people to create art (ie for the movie industry), simplifies app development, allows customization closer to an individual's taste (think designing your own home) or helps apps built on voice recognition to name a few small areas.
Ai also helps make Ai development easier, making it more accessible to those without a doctorates degree.
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AI also simplifies tasks and opens up new fields. Makes it easier to train more doctors, allows less talented people to create art (ie for the movie industry), simplifies app development, allows customization closer to an individual's taste (think designing your own home) or helps apps built on voice recognition to name a few small areas. Ai also helps make Ai development easier, making it more accessible to those without a doctorates degree.
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They don't.
Robotic surgical arms exist that work with specific surgeries. Those are remote controlled by a trained and certified surgeon. I know a surgeon who is trained to use them and he's able to remote in to any hospital in the country that has one installed and perform surgery from his office. It's super cool, but a human is controlling it.
Likewise, there is no robot doctor. We don't even have AI that actually understands what you are saying to it, let alone able to interpret that information, run it some kind of experience matrix and passed a dictionary of signs and symptoms.
IBMs watson can beat a human at chess, and that's really cool. But it is made up of a server farm bigger than your house and it has no concept of what chess is, that it is a game or what winning means. It is a fantastic step towards AI with predictive learning systems, but it's really just a first step with many, many more to come.
Being a doctor is hard. You have to listen to a patient tell you their symptoms in an often incomplete or round about way and interpret what they mean, while also observing for signs. Based on that information you ask questions to get further information. Then here's the tricky bit, for any set of signs and symptoms there are multiple conditions that fit based just on their diagnostic criteria. Usually somewhere between 5-20 conditions but sometimes we're talking about signs and symptoms so generic they fit hundreds.
You have to use your years of experience actually working with real people and picking up subtleties to figure out what direction your diagnosis is going to go in, and whether you need to order additional tests to be sure. Being wrong can mean a patient dies or dramatically loses quality of life. You have to do all that while having a friendly, relatable bedside manner.
Google Duplex is a nice trick, but it has no idea what is going on. Its just a persistent session speech to text. When you book an appointment or a reservation there is pretty much a standard conversation that takes place. In the same way your google home is just a bunch of predefined text phrases that trigger reactions, so too has google defined those conversations in Duplex. The actual system itself has no clue wtf is being said or even that it's having a conversation. The moment someone in one of those calls goes off the expected script Duplex won't have a clue what to do.
We're nowhere close to replacing doctors with AI.
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They don't. Robotic surgical arms exist that work with specific surgeries. Those are remote controlled by a trained and certified surgeon. I know a surgeon who is trained to use them and he's able to remote in to any hospital in the country that has one installed and perform surgery from his office. It's super cool, but a human is controlling it. Likewise, there is no robot doctor. We don't even have AI that actually understands what you are saying to it, let alone able to interpret that information, run it some kind of experience matrix and passed a dictionary of signs and symptoms. IBMs watson can beat a human at chess, and that's really cool. But it is made up of a server farm bigger than your house and it has no concept of what chess is, that it is a game or what winning means. It is a fantastic step towards AI with predictive learning systems, but it's really just a first step with many, many more to come. Being a doctor is hard. You have to listen to a patient tell you their symptoms in an often incomplete or round about way and interpret what they mean, while also observing for signs. Based on that information you ask questions to get further information. Then here's the tricky bit, for any set of signs and symptoms there are multiple conditions that fit based just on their diagnostic criteria. Usually somewhere between 5-20 conditions but sometimes we're talking about signs and symptoms so generic they fit hundreds. You have to use your years of experience actually working with real people and picking up subtleties to figure out what direction your diagnosis is going to go in, and whether you need to order additional tests to be sure. Being wrong can mean a patient dies or dramatically loses quality of life. You have to do all that while having a friendly, relatable bedside manner. Google Duplex is a nice trick, but it has no idea what is going on. Its just a persistent session speech to text. When you book an appointment or a reservation there is pretty much a standard conversation that takes place. In the same way your google home is just a bunch of predefined text phrases that trigger reactions, so too has google defined those conversations in Duplex. The actual system itself has no clue wtf is being said or even that it's having a conversation. The moment someone in one of those calls goes off the expected script Duplex won't have a clue what to do. We're nowhere close to replacing doctors with AI.
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Everybody responds differently. A good doctor should treat your symptoms to achieve a better quality of life, not meet some numerical yardstick pushed by LabCorp to help insurance companies avoid having to treat Low T.
That said, if your urologist wants to cut your t dose in half with you feeling worse and your numbers being shit low, I??d straight up tell him he??s a lousy doc and you??re getting a second opinion.
Tests are usually done fasted before injection so they can get a T measurement at your lowest state. They don??t care how good you feel the day after your injection if you feel like shit six day later. Few people are going to pay to have two labs done in a week just to see what your higher E2 might be.
Is 38 bad? You indicate it is bad for you. I know people who feel good at 50. A real AI could cut your E2 way down. You might feel worse (super low is as bad as super high). In my personal experience (and my doctors experience), you can drop your E2 levels by 10 points by taking DIM (diindolmethane) every day. For me, that made me feel better. I went from 38 to 28. YMMV. You could drop $16 on a bottle on Amazon and see how it works.
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Everybody responds differently. A good doctor should treat your symptoms to achieve a better quality of life, not meet some numerical yardstick pushed by LabCorp to help insurance companies avoid having to treat Low T. That said, if your urologist wants to cut your t dose in half with you feeling worse and your numbers being shit low, Id straight up tell him hes a lousy doc and youre getting a second opinion. Tests are usually done fasted before injection so they can get a T measurement at your lowest state. They dont care how good you feel the day after your injection if you feel like shit six day later. Few people are going to pay to have two labs done in a week just to see what your higher E2 might be. Is 38 bad? You indicate it is bad for you. I know people who feel good at 50. A real AI could cut your E2 way down. You might feel worse (super low is as bad as super high). In my personal experience (and my doctors experience), you can drop your E2 levels by 10 points by taking DIM (diindolmethane) every day. For me, that made me feel better. I went from 38 to 28. YMMV. You could drop 16 on a bottle on Amazon and see how it works.
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I probably didn??t explain that 100% correctly so I apologize. There is a doctor on the TNation forums that goes into more detail regarding this. He goes by KSman and is pretty much an expert in using SERMs for TRT purposes. If you google ?°ksman clomid e2 testes ai?± you??ll find some posts where he goes into detail about why it happens and why it doesn??t show up on a blood test.
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I probably didnt explain that 100 correctly so I apologize. There is a doctor on the TNation forums that goes into more detail regarding this. He goes by KSman and is pretty much an expert in using SERMs for TRT purposes. If you google ksman clomid e2 testes ai youll find some posts where he goes into detail about why it happens and why it doesnt show up on a blood test.
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When the crack in Reality into the Between needed to be sealed behind the arcships that made the dimensional jump, a ship went into the Rift. Six humans and an AI managed to make contact in the Between and were dissolved by the probability-energy-matrix. The Other reformed all seven as gods of the new reality. The AI became Hevrig, god of law and balance. The ship's doctor became Etragar, god of healing and benevolence. The Other pinched off a bit of itself, becoming Toltiir - the god of mischief/chaos/wishes. And so on. During the binding of the Chaos caused by the rift and the issues of fixing things, various lesser spirits/entities/fey/kami/genius loci/etc formed or were transformed into their new statuses.
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When the crack in Reality into the Between needed to be sealed behind the arcships that made the dimensional jump, a ship went into the Rift. Six humans and an AI managed to make contact in the Between and were dissolved by the probability-energy-matrix. The Other reformed all seven as gods of the new reality. The AI became Hevrig, god of law and balance. The ship's doctor became Etragar, god of healing and benevolence. The Other pinched off a bit of itself, becoming Toltiir - the god of mischiefchaoswishes. And so on. During the binding of the Chaos caused by the rift and the issues of fixing things, various lesser spiritsentitiesfeykamigenius locietc formed or were transformed into their new statuses.
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Youre giving DeepMind too little credit. Their system won a competition against the best in class in predicting protein folding. DeepMind is also undergoing a partnership with NHS in thr UK regarding different eye conditions. That partnership has already showed efficacy in comparison to doctors in the field.
What this paper is refering to is a review of alphaZero that DeepMind conducted after its board game blowout. Therein they treid to sumarize and assess where AZ differs from the state of the art. It in no way says anything about other applications because thats not the point of the review, but the omission of such explanations does not mean that they dont exist - they do. As a matter of fact, DeepMind implemented their AI to greatly increase energy efficacy in Googles headquarters last years, which in itself leads to big savings for the company. But AI research takes a lot of brains, energy and time, we need to be patient.
So: 8 years and 500m usd for probably the most successful and experienced private AI company on the planet, with real world projects on its way.
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Youre giving DeepMind too little credit. Their system won a competition against the best in class in predicting protein folding. DeepMind is also undergoing a partnership with NHS in thr UK regarding different eye conditions. That partnership has already showed efficacy in comparison to doctors in the field. What this paper is refering to is a review of alphaZero that DeepMind conducted after its board game blowout. Therein they treid to sumarize and assess where AZ differs from the state of the art. It in no way says anything about other applications because thats not the point of the review, but the omission of such explanations does not mean that they dont exist - they do. As a matter of fact, DeepMind implemented their AI to greatly increase energy efficacy in Googles headquarters last years, which in itself leads to big savings for the company. But AI research takes a lot of brains, energy and time, we need to be patient. So: 8 years and 500m usd for probably the most successful and experienced private AI company on the planet, with real world projects on its way.
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A game that pretty much simulates real life where there are the most pointless details and where you can do whatever you want, maybe become an employee, a doctor, a firefighter, a cop, a soldier, a priest, a whore, a thug. Just simply life without consequences and the most advanced AI that will create the best unscripted storyline depending on your choices.
Oh and you will not be the "main character" of the game: every npc will have he's own life and story, you're just another human being, pretty much like real life.
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A game that pretty much simulates real life where there are the most pointless details and where you can do whatever you want, maybe become an employee, a doctor, a firefighter, a cop, a soldier, a priest, a whore, a thug. Just simply life without consequences and the most advanced AI that will create the best unscripted storyline depending on your choices. Oh and you will not be the "main character" of the game: every npc will have he's own life and story, you're just another human being, pretty much like real life.
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How about Miniority Report, but for healthcare.
In the neo distopian future of the upcoming world, one person stands at the precipice... and doesn't even know it. "The healthcare AI precog program has determined that you're required to take a 1 year sabbatical in the bahamas at the resort of your choosing. Report to your local hospital for the doctor's signature on your plane ticket." Jason Mamoa slowly leans forward, beer in hand, having received this work email. "This... CAN'T... be right!" he thunders. "We outsourced everything to dolphin interns in Oceania, I just stamp my approval on the finished product." A realisation slowly dawns on the hero. "The precognition programs... aren't full proof!" He carefully places his beer on his cubicle table and scratches his nose thoughtfully. "Guess I'm getting a tan." - end trailer, dramatic heavy music plays.
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How about Miniority Report, but for healthcare. In the neo distopian future of the upcoming world, one person stands at the precipice... and doesn't even know it. "The healthcare AI precog program has determined that you're required to take a 1 year sabbatical in the bahamas at the resort of your choosing. Report to your local hospital for the doctor's signature on your plane ticket." Jason Mamoa slowly leans forward, beer in hand, having received this work email. "This... CAN'T... be right!" he thunders. "We outsourced everything to dolphin interns in Oceania, I just stamp my approval on the finished product." A realisation slowly dawns on the hero. "The precognition programs... aren't full proof!" He carefully places his beer on his cubicle table and scratches his nose thoughtfully. "Guess I'm getting a tan." - end trailer, dramatic heavy music plays.
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I thought that doctors where employees of the hospital. Anyways, I hear AI is making some serious inroads into that field hopefully it will cheapen diagnosis and services
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I thought that doctors where employees of the hospital. Anyways, I hear AI is making some serious inroads into that field hopefully it will cheapen diagnosis and services
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I'm very happy with Series 11's viewing figures, but I completely understand why some people have a bad outlook about them. Namely: Nearly 11m people watched *The Woman Who Fell to Earth*, and of course they did, not just because of the new Doctor but because of all the publicity/controversy over her being a her! But for all intents and purposes, the early high ratings (nearly 11m on *The Woman Who Fell to Earth*, and 9m on *The Ghost Monument*) are outliers that can be safely ignored.
And when you do look past them, the picture isn't nearly as pretty. From episodes 1-9, the view counts dropped with every new episode, falling from 8.41m with *Rosa* to 6.42m by *It Takes You Away*. That's a *significantly* bigger drop than we've seen with any prior series, and across only 10 episodes! Even when the numbers went up again for the finale, it was still watched by more than 1 million fewer people than the S8 finale, yielding a number more on par with where we were at the end of S9 than anything in Tennant's or Smith's eras.
I don't mean to be a downer, but we can't pretend this is all sunshine and lollipops. The show is going on another year-long hiatus before S12 (relevant username). Will a year's worth of hindsight be kind to S11? Its average AI is already more than a full point below anything we saw with Capaldi, with four separate episodes sitting on or below the magical 80 line that was only crossed *once* in S8-10. I expect that when Doctor Who does finally come back in 2020, we'll be looking at numbers a lot closer to S10 than S9, and frankly I wouldn't be surprised if they were actually *worse*.
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I'm very happy with Series 11's viewing figures, but I completely understand why some people have a bad outlook about them. Namely: Nearly 11m people watched The Woman Who Fell to Earth, and of course they did, not just because of the new Doctor but because of all the publicitycontroversy over her being a her! But for all intents and purposes, the early high ratings (nearly 11m on The Woman Who Fell to Earth, and 9m on The Ghost Monument) are outliers that can be safely ignored. And when you do look past them, the picture isn't nearly as pretty. From episodes 1-9, the view counts dropped with every new episode, falling from 8.41m with Rosa to 6.42m by It Takes You Away. That's a significantly bigger drop than we've seen with any prior series, and across only 10 episodes! Even when the numbers went up again for the finale, it was still watched by more than 1 million fewer people than the S8 finale, yielding a number more on par with where we were at the end of S9 than anything in Tennant's or Smith's eras. I don't mean to be a downer, but we can't pretend this is all sunshine and lollipops. The show is going on another year-long hiatus before S12 (relevant username). Will a year's worth of hindsight be kind to S11? Its average AI is already more than a full point below anything we saw with Capaldi, with four separate episodes sitting on or below the magical 80 line that was only crossed once in S8-10. I expect that when Doctor Who does finally come back in 2020, we'll be looking at numbers a lot closer to S10 than S9, and frankly I wouldn't be surprised if they were actually worse.
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>HRT and the clinics that do offer it are sometimes upwards of $300 a month which is out of my budget.
Your local gym rat should be able to sell you street testosterone. The same compounds bodybuilders use and it is the exact same compound the doctors will use on you, but at far cheaper. For 60$ - 70$ you should be able to buy 10ml of testosterone cypionate or enanthate. Both are long chained testosterone esters. They are dosed, usually, at 250mg/ml. simply inject 3/4 of a CC, every 7 days, into your leg, shoulder, or glute. This will last you 13weeks. Far cheaper than old doctor.
> Don't feel any better yet, but my MD said it could take up to 6 months, which makes sense.
I've been down this road. It could be 6months. Could be 18months. Could be never. The doctors, from what I can tell, are guessing at symptoms the majority of the time. Its why machine learning and AI is able to out predict cancer diagnoses from so called experts.
I AM CERTAINLY NOT GIVING YOU MEDICAL ADVICE, but as an older man your test begins to diminish after 35. TRT is healthy for any male over 40.
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gt;HRT and the clinics that do offer it are sometimes upwards of 300 a month which is out of my budget. Your local gym rat should be able to sell you street testosterone. The same compounds bodybuilders use and it is the exact same compound the doctors will use on you, but at far cheaper. For 60 - 70 you should be able to buy 10ml of testosterone cypionate or enanthate. Both are long chained testosterone esters. They are dosed, usually, at 250mgml. simply inject 34 of a CC, every 7 days, into your leg, shoulder, or glute. This will last you 13weeks. Far cheaper than old doctor. gt; Don't feel any better yet, but my MD said it could take up to 6 months, which makes sense. I've been down this road. It could be 6months. Could be 18months. Could be never. The doctors, from what I can tell, are guessing at symptoms the majority of the time. Its why machine learning and AI is able to out predict cancer diagnoses from so called experts. I AM CERTAINLY NOT GIVING YOU MEDICAL ADVICE, but as an older man your test begins to diminish after 35. TRT is healthy for any male over 40.
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>Be Macey Thomas medical doctor
>Be on tg bagil
>Low pop(30-40 people) ,and yes. That's low pop on bagil.
>You are the Hivemind!
>minute later... XXX captain has bought the build your own shuttle!
>Welp.mp4
>add half dozen people to hivemind then work on shuttle
>completed entire shell.
>added atmos system to it connected to the station
>check pressure after a minute and it isn't rising by a lot...
>heads to engineering
>captain see's me and asks why I don't have a mindshield
>kindly reply that I've been working on building the shuttle
>knowing of my soon to be death and only needing to maximise air creation in atmos I confess of my *sin*
>cap gets me borged due to personal request and doesn't even cuff me
>finally gets borged and heads to atmos as medical borg
>gets purged and gain new law saying - purge all crew mindshields
>arrive in atmos and maximise air production
>suddenly meteors
>curse myself due to Borg choice
>get upgraded and haloperidol get
>AI and other Borg's and plasma man's help rebuild shuttle
>timing of shuttle doesn't allow atmos system to be rebuilt
>minute before shuttle *arrives* implanted grey shirt drags me to to surgery without prompting reason
>once at maint surgery in hopes for that sweet emag gains I discover that he only needs help in discovering what his trauma does...
>knowing medical to a tee I know that the maint crawler is in desperate need of surgery
>brain surgery starts, needed tools - saw. Anesthesia used - flash.
>once hit crit cfl3/acid grenade fills room with death mix
>watch as I am minimally damaged
>join rest of crew
>shuttle leaves, and time to start the purge
>wait half a minute to let pressure damage lower health and wait in the shadows
>flash mindshielded crew and drag them into head access area without people or light and apply saw to skull
>last mindshielded crew is cap who somehow became skeleton
>in amidst if applying saw to head he flashes me
>getting robusted and then shuttle docs, round end, BOH bomb kills cap and I die from surviving crew due to long stun
>congratulate self for law greentext as cap was skeleton and thus death
>realize as in writing this that I could interpret law as removing implants via surgery no death required
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gt;Be Macey Thomas medical doctor gt;Be on tg bagil gt;Low pop(30-40 people) ,and yes. That's low pop on bagil. gt;You are the Hivemind! gt;minute later... XXX captain has bought the build your own shuttle! gt;Welp.mp4 gt;add half dozen people to hivemind then work on shuttle gt;completed entire shell. gt;added atmos system to it connected to the station gt;check pressure after a minute and it isn't rising by a lot... gt;heads to engineering gt;captain see's me and asks why I don't have a mindshield gt;kindly reply that I've been working on building the shuttle gt;knowing of my soon to be death and only needing to maximise air creation in atmos I confess of my sin gt;cap gets me borged due to personal request and doesn't even cuff me gt;finally gets borged and heads to atmos as medical borg gt;gets purged and gain new law saying - purge all crew mindshields gt;arrive in atmos and maximise air production gt;suddenly meteors gt;curse myself due to Borg choice gt;get upgraded and haloperidol get gt;AI and other Borg's and plasma man's help rebuild shuttle gt;timing of shuttle doesn't allow atmos system to be rebuilt gt;minute before shuttle arrives implanted grey shirt drags me to to surgery without prompting reason gt;once at maint surgery in hopes for that sweet emag gains I discover that he only needs help in discovering what his trauma does... gt;knowing medical to a tee I know that the maint crawler is in desperate need of surgery gt;brain surgery starts, needed tools - saw. Anesthesia used - flash. gt;once hit crit cfl3acid grenade fills room with death mix gt;watch as I am minimally damaged gt;join rest of crew gt;shuttle leaves, and time to start the purge gt;wait half a minute to let pressure damage lower health and wait in the shadows gt;flash mindshielded crew and drag them into head access area without people or light and apply saw to skull gt;last mindshielded crew is cap who somehow became skeleton gt;in amidst if applying saw to head he flashes me gt;getting robusted and then shuttle docs, round end, BOH bomb kills cap and I die from surviving crew due to long stun gt;congratulate self for law greentext as cap was skeleton and thus death gt;realize as in writing this that I could interpret law as removing implants via surgery no death required
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You do realize that just about every job could be automated over the next few years. Especially the middle class jobs that at the moment attract premium incomes?
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AI Lawyers are way more successful and cost effective. Doctors and surgeons absolutely AI will replace them.
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Virtually all clerical and managerial positions will be gone within 20 years. Skilled labor will all be replaced by automation.
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You do realize that just about every job could be automated over the next few years. Especially the middle class jobs that at the moment attract premium incomes? amp;x200B; AI Lawyers are way more successful and cost effective. Doctors and surgeons absolutely AI will replace them. amp;x200B; Virtually all clerical and managerial positions will be gone within 20 years. Skilled labor will all be replaced by automation. amp;x200B;
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You can buy TRT otc in most places, but you'd struggle with AI or HCG. Bangla road in Patong has pharmacies that'll sell Aromasin/Arimidex but it's 2-3k baht per pack.
Bangkok and Pattaya actually have mens clinics but the prices are around $500/mo (including regular bloods etc).
You can walk into most hospitals and request blood tests and get results within 2hours in Bangkok. Some hospitals will charge a doctor fee, others will charge an admin fee. Just be sure to ask at registration for the turn around time for the results as a lot of places ship the blood to another hospital to process and it will usually take 3-5 days.
I've personally been using http://www.maximumclinic.com/ in Bangkok and have been very happy with them. I bill it straight to my insurance and they're paying in full. If you have no insurance the monthly cost is 14k baht all inclusive including your blood works and all medicines regardless of what you get.
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You can buy TRT otc in most places, but you'd struggle with AI or HCG. Bangla road in Patong has pharmacies that'll sell AromasinArimidex but it's 2-3k baht per pack. Bangkok and Pattaya actually have mens clinics but the prices are around 500mo (including regular bloods etc). You can walk into most hospitals and request blood tests and get results within 2hours in Bangkok. Some hospitals will charge a doctor fee, others will charge an admin fee. Just be sure to ask at registration for the turn around time for the results as a lot of places ship the blood to another hospital to process and it will usually take 3-5 days. I've personally been using http:www.maximumclinic.com in Bangkok and have been very happy with them. I bill it straight to my insurance and they're paying in full. If you have no insurance the monthly cost is 14k baht all inclusive including your blood works and all medicines regardless of what you get.
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A twist on the Cybermen that I think is unique - android bodies AI-controlled to kill - with the twist reveal being that they have living humans trapped within them, who are conscious and watching as they kill their own families and friends, but powerless to stop them. This could be too dark but I think it would be scary and horrifying and those behind it would be doing it purely to make Humanity suffer, which would lead to a very angry and vengeful Doctor.
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A twist on the Cybermen that I think is unique - android bodies AI-controlled to kill - with the twist reveal being that they have living humans trapped within them, who are conscious and watching as they kill their own families and friends, but powerless to stop them. This could be too dark but I think it would be scary and horrifying and those behind it would be doing it purely to make Humanity suffer, which would lead to a very angry and vengeful Doctor.
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Actually, medical malpractice is one of the highest causes of death according to researchers at Johns Hopkins:
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2016/05/03/476636183/death-certificates-undercount-toll-of-medical-errors
Doctors make mistakes all the time. An AI is already the best diagnostician in the world. Many types of doctors will be largely obsolete in ~20 years.
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Actually, medical malpractice is one of the highest causes of death according to researchers at Johns Hopkins: https:www.npr.orgsectionshealth-shots20160503476636183death-certificates-undercount-toll-of-medical-errors Doctors make mistakes all the time. An AI is already the best diagnostician in the world. Many types of doctors will be largely obsolete in 20 years.
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Ahh, okay. Sorry to hear that you can't actually discuss this and solve it with your doctors. I didn't know it was like that in Europe. Well, after your blood tests, if your estrogen is high, perhaps start with .5mg every 7 days. Dose it once a week since dosing it twice a week seemed to have been too much. Maybe even dose it once every two weeks? I know guys who have run massive aromatizing steroid cycles with super low doses of AI.
If I were you, I'd try directing your blood work issues towards a steroid Sub. Some of those guys are very well educated on the subject from first hand experience, and a lot of them are also on regular TRT as well. I understand that you aren't on "steroids" but testosterone and hormone balancing are an issue those guys have to figure out. It's worth a shot maybe.
Also, if your source for Adex was legit, perhaps consider using Aromasin instead? There are certain people who prefer one over the other because one does not work well for them.
Hope you get your stuff straightened out, man.
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Ahh, okay. Sorry to hear that you can't actually discuss this and solve it with your doctors. I didn't know it was like that in Europe. Well, after your blood tests, if your estrogen is high, perhaps start with .5mg every 7 days. Dose it once a week since dosing it twice a week seemed to have been too much. Maybe even dose it once every two weeks? I know guys who have run massive aromatizing steroid cycles with super low doses of AI. If I were you, I'd try directing your blood work issues towards a steroid Sub. Some of those guys are very well educated on the subject from first hand experience, and a lot of them are also on regular TRT as well. I understand that you aren't on "steroids" but testosterone and hormone balancing are an issue those guys have to figure out. It's worth a shot maybe. Also, if your source for Adex was legit, perhaps consider using Aromasin instead? There are certain people who prefer one over the other because one does not work well for them. Hope you get your stuff straightened out, man.
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Put in that context I think it clarifies parts of my own question. In terms of technology there will always be the reality that changing the way we do things will impact how we understand them. This is a fear I think which has been around at least since I??ve been alive and a part of me thinks it??s been around for awhile (anecdote about Greeks rioting over the lyre with more strings than normal).
I almost positive I have very little understanding of the depths of ai and what really happens within the machine and program itself. It??s always a question of how humans interact with the technology and utilize it for their own ends. The machine will do what it does - it does not have responsibility. The human person who uses it does have the responsibility because they have the freedoms to choose what to do with the tool.
It kind of turns into how do we use this tool for the best and worst and who determines the value of best and worst. A part of me understands ai as a simple calculator on roids - this is fine and I think I get what you??re saying about its capabilities and we don??t want to assume it has its own sense of ethics like a human.
If I understand you right you??re emphasizing the neutral aspect of ai - in reality it??s an incredibly complex logic system. An mri does what it does and shoots a bunch of numbers to a computer which applies a set of ?°if-then?± statements over and over again according to whatever the programmer or whoever enters. In this it??s all more or less based on what the human enters in. So philosophically or practically the concern is whether we are making assumptions about what we??re entering into these programs and is this to our benefit or detriment. Is the programmer aware of this, is the manager aware of this, is the doctor aware of this, is the patient aware of this?
Then it turns into - who decides what to do with all of the outputted data. Could it be used for the benefit of few against the many? based on an assumption of a value system within the ?°if-then?± statements is it favoring a certain type of person? But it think it??s more than just a social justice or equality thing. With so much data and so much information extrapolated from it - is it beyond our capacity to evaluate any such assumptions?
I appreciate your response and it probably seems like I??m verging on tin hat kind of stuff (which I want to avoid). Thank you for helping me sort through my own thoughts. Your dissertation sounds super interesting and pretty relevant to all of this too - are there any ?°starter?± resources you could point me to?
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Put in that context I think it clarifies parts of my own question. In terms of technology there will always be the reality that changing the way we do things will impact how we understand them. This is a fear I think which has been around at least since Ive been alive and a part of me thinks its been around for awhile (anecdote about Greeks rioting over the lyre with more strings than normal). I almost positive I have very little understanding of the depths of ai and what really happens within the machine and program itself. Its always a question of how humans interact with the technology and utilize it for their own ends. The machine will do what it does - it does not have responsibility. The human person who uses it does have the responsibility because they have the freedoms to choose what to do with the tool. It kind of turns into how do we use this tool for the best and worst and who determines the value of best and worst. A part of me understands ai as a simple calculator on roids - this is fine and I think I get what youre saying about its capabilities and we dont want to assume it has its own sense of ethics like a human. If I understand you right youre emphasizing the neutral aspect of ai - in reality its an incredibly complex logic system. An mri does what it does and shoots a bunch of numbers to a computer which applies a set of if-then statements over and over again according to whatever the programmer or whoever enters. In this its all more or less based on what the human enters in. So philosophically or practically the concern is whether we are making assumptions about what were entering into these programs and is this to our benefit or detriment. Is the programmer aware of this, is the manager aware of this, is the doctor aware of this, is the patient aware of this? Then it turns into - who decides what to do with all of the outputted data. Could it be used for the benefit of few against the many? based on an assumption of a value system within the if-then statements is it favoring a certain type of person? But it think its more than just a social justice or equality thing. With so much data and so much information extrapolated from it - is it beyond our capacity to evaluate any such assumptions? I appreciate your response and it probably seems like Im verging on tin hat kind of stuff (which I want to avoid). Thank you for helping me sort through my own thoughts. Your dissertation sounds super interesting and pretty relevant to all of this too - are there any starter resources you could point me to?
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I don't think the Mark I EMHs are illustrative of an institutional prejudice against AIs either-- under their normal operating parameters they weren't meant to develop into strong AIs and it could not have easily been anticipated that they would. Stumbling when venturing into virtually unexplored territory is understandable, if suboptimal; the discovery of a society with a strongly established tradition of AI personhood would probably force the Federation to reflect as much as the existence of the Doctor or Vic Fontaine, if not more.
And that *certainly* doesn't demonstrate genocidal intent.
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I don't think the Mark I EMHs are illustrative of an institutional prejudice against AIs either-- under their normal operating parameters they weren't meant to develop into strong AIs and it could not have easily been anticipated that they would. Stumbling when venturing into virtually unexplored territory is understandable, if suboptimal; the discovery of a society with a strongly established tradition of AI personhood would probably force the Federation to reflect as much as the existence of the Doctor or Vic Fontaine, if not more. And that certainly doesn't demonstrate genocidal intent.
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> Medicine
Only nursing. Doctors and surgeons could easily be replaced by robots.
> nuclear engineering
I can see this being replaced by computers as well.
> aviation
Will most likely be replaced by computers just like cars and trucks.
> computer engineering specifically AI
There MAY be a few jobs left to in order to maintain programs.
I would say that anything that doesn't involve heavy human interaction (like nursing and other care jobs) is at risk.
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gt; Medicine Only nursing. Doctors and surgeons could easily be replaced by robots. gt; nuclear engineering I can see this being replaced by computers as well. gt; aviation Will most likely be replaced by computers just like cars and trucks. gt; computer engineering specifically AI There MAY be a few jobs left to in order to maintain programs. I would say that anything that doesn't involve heavy human interaction (like nursing and other care jobs) is at risk.
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B&C used to scare me, now that I'm close to 30 and I can probably get a script anyway, I'm chill with it.
I already planned on trt life after 34 so as long as I don't die, starting a little early doesn't bother me anymore.
If you are worried, get bloods, run hcg and whatever else you feel you need. A cycle isn't complete with an AI and SERM alone, that is if you want a full recovery. Logic says that the longer you are on, the longer and harder it will be to go back to normal if you stop pinning.
The massive risks are all cardiovascular, that said I know many nurses and doctors who have ran cycles, get your bloods and do it right and you'll be fine.
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Bamp;C used to scare me, now that I'm close to 30 and I can probably get a script anyway, I'm chill with it. I already planned on trt life after 34 so as long as I don't die, starting a little early doesn't bother me anymore. If you are worried, get bloods, run hcg and whatever else you feel you need. A cycle isn't complete with an AI and SERM alone, that is if you want a full recovery. Logic says that the longer you are on, the longer and harder it will be to go back to normal if you stop pinning. The massive risks are all cardiovascular, that said I know many nurses and doctors who have ran cycles, get your bloods and do it right and you'll be fine.
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AI will never replace physicians entirely because the computer can never be completely responsible for a human.
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AI will never replace physicians entirely because the computer can never be completely responsible for a human.
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Had me until ?°not as important as doctors?±. I??m sorry, but it??s ridiculous to believe that computer scientists won??t be as important of a skilled worker as doctors due to how the world is globalizing. Technological warfare, biotech, and AI are all fields that will requires highly trained computer scientists. I think what you mean to say is that a major/trade labeled as ?°computer programming technician?± or ?°web developer?± will become more common, where they train purely to use basic tools and not develop new technologies. A true computer scientist will be revered in a similar light as a doctor.
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Had me until not as important as doctors. Im sorry, but its ridiculous to believe that computer scientists wont be as important of a skilled worker as doctors due to how the world is globalizing. Technological warfare, biotech, and AI are all fields that will requires highly trained computer scientists. I think what you mean to say is that a majortrade labeled as computer programming technician or web developer will become more common, where they train purely to use basic tools and not develop new technologies. A true computer scientist will be revered in a similar light as a doctor.
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Automation is coming wether you like it or not. And wether you pay people $9/hr or $13/hr it??s going to happen.
On a long enough time scale we need to look at universal income because *every* job can be automated. Doctors, lawyers, sales people, constructions workers, graphic designers. Literally anything can be done with good enough AI and robotics.
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Automation is coming wether you like it or not. And wether you pay people 9hr or 13hr its going to happen. On a long enough time scale we need to look at universal income because every job can be automated. Doctors, lawyers, sales people, constructions workers, graphic designers. Literally anything can be done with good enough AI and robotics.
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Aeon Chronicles Online by Dante Sakurai
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After a deadly encounter with a forest wolf, Rowan Black survives thanks to stem cell therapy and experimental bionic brain implants. Rowan's body recovers, but the treatment leaves his memories fragmented and his psyche shattered into something inhumane, irritable, and callous??and a tad bit lustful. When his doctor fails to notice this, his parents reluctantly sends him back to Westwind Highschool, resulting in the murder of Rowan's past bully.
Rowan serves two years of juvenile detention in a psychiatric center, and after his 18th birthday, he is offered a choice by a powerful corporation: Either spend the next decades in a psychiatric prison or play in their fully-immersive virtual reality game, Aeon Chronicles Online, and grow into the role of the world's next major raid boss that players must defeat.
Will Rowan regain his old psyche? How will Aeon Chronicles' AI controller react to Rowan??s unique mind? Will Rowan receive help in a team-oriented game or is he alone? Find out in this 130k+ word, dark LitRPG novel!
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Aeon Chronicles Online by Dante Sakurai amp;x200B; Amazon description: After a deadly encounter with a forest wolf, Rowan Black survives thanks to stem cell therapy and experimental bionic brain implants. Rowan's body recovers, but the treatment leaves his memories fragmented and his psyche shattered into something inhumane, irritable, and callousand a tad bit lustful. When his doctor fails to notice this, his parents reluctantly sends him back to Westwind Highschool, resulting in the murder of Rowan's past bully. Rowan serves two years of juvenile detention in a psychiatric center, and after his 18th birthday, he is offered a choice by a powerful corporation: Either spend the next decades in a psychiatric prison or play in their fully-immersive virtual reality game, Aeon Chronicles Online, and grow into the role of the world's next major raid boss that players must defeat. Will Rowan regain his old psyche? How will Aeon Chronicles' AI controller react to Rowans unique mind? Will Rowan receive help in a team-oriented game or is he alone? Find out in this 130k word, dark LitRPG novel!
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Excellent response, you really show off the strengths of Score Voting here, but I think you and /u/Chackoony are conceptualising voters and being anti-democratic wrong here.
The beauty of Score Voting is that 100% of voter can be completely wrong about who would be the best candidate to win, and the best candidate can still win.
Thanks to its much better use of wisdom of the crowds, Score Voting can work even if you're anti-democracy and think every voter is a moron who doesn't know what's good for them.
As can be seen in [Unanimous AI's study](https://unanimous.ai/stanford-radiology/) using a system similar to Score Voting, crowds manage to identify pneumonia better on average than the best doctors manage individually.
That implies on average Score Voting should produce results equivalent to an idealised technocracy.
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Excellent response, you really show off the strengths of Score Voting here, but I think you and uChackoony are conceptualising voters and being anti-democratic wrong here. The beauty of Score Voting is that 100 of voter can be completely wrong about who would be the best candidate to win, and the best candidate can still win. Thanks to its much better use of wisdom of the crowds, Score Voting can work even if you're anti-democracy and think every voter is a moron who doesn't know what's good for them. As can be seen in Unanimous AI's study(https:unanimous.aistanford-radiology) using a system similar to Score Voting, crowds manage to identify pneumonia better on average than the best doctors manage individually. That implies on average Score Voting should produce results equivalent to an idealised technocracy.
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I had a previous co-worker that was like "I saw the video on Planned Parenthood myself". Bro, you know how easy it is to tack an audio clip over footage that doesn't include anybody's face? Hell, they've even developed technology where you can generate CGI models of people that are indiscernible from the real thing and doctor audio over it.
[https://www.theverge.com/tldr/2018/4/17/17247334/ai-fake-news-video-barack-obama-jordan-peele-buzzfeed](https://www.theverge.com/tldr/2018/4/17/17247334/ai-fake-news-video-barack-obama-jordan-peele-buzzfeed)
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I had a previous co-worker that was like "I saw the video on Planned Parenthood myself". Bro, you know how easy it is to tack an audio clip over footage that doesn't include anybody's face? Hell, they've even developed technology where you can generate CGI models of people that are indiscernible from the real thing and doctor audio over it. https:www.theverge.comtldr201841717247334ai-fake-news-video-barack-obama-jordan-peele-buzzfeed(https:www.theverge.comtldr201841717247334ai-fake-news-video-barack-obama-jordan-peele-buzzfeed)
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Ironically, the lack of children / pregnancy in the vanilla game has kind of invited this kind of thing - in Rimworld, the purpose of sex is 100% "pleasure/pair bonding" and 0% "making new humans" ie. queer. In this reality, being "heteronormative" would indeed be a bad thing. Maybe in the future we will all be clones living on IRL Glitterworlds and we won't have to be heteronormative.
Of course, this isn't intentional - the lack of reproduction in the game is, as far as I can tell, partly because it would result in kids being made into hats, and partly because Ludeon is an indie studio who don't have the time or resources to implement every single feature they might like to.
On a real "rimworld", contraception wouldn't be widely available. You could maybe get an abortion, but it would probably take place in a wooden shack and the doctor might be missing a thumb and high on smokeleaf. The colonists simply wouldn't have the luxury of being able to treat sex and reproduction as two separate things. People forget Rimworld isn't Star Trek, it's a space Western. The aesthetic isn't supposed to be utopian - it's desperate and grimy, but the actual game mechanics don't quite line up with the aesthetic when it comes to sex. Implicitly, in the Rimworld setting, most new humans are still made via old-school heterosexual sex (you just never see it on screen as a player), therefore most of the people who live in it are heteronormative, therefore the trait implementation.
With this in mind, we can circle back to the PC Gamer review. I propose that Rimworld's ideological crime, in the eyes of the author, is *ambiguous optimism*. The telos of the progressive world view is "a better future", so sci-fi becomes politicized. If you're a progressive scientist, you might want to achieve a better future by curing diseases, or finding better ways to generate energy without polluting. If you're a progressive journalist (a tautology but I digress), you're less concerned with the supply of "better future" than the demand - your job is to keep everyone on the same page. When the future is depicted in sci-fi, it must clearly be either "the good future where we win" or "the bad future where the bad guys win". Rimworld refuses to do this - it shows a world where some things are better, some are worse, some things stay the same and some are wildly different (part of why I love it so much). This is threatening to progressives because it risks sowing seeds of doubt in the people they want to convert to progressivism. The idea that humanity can have AI and nanotech and still be heteronormative is seen as Not OK, because even the journalists are aware that:
1) a lot of people have doubts about social justice etc.,
2) but go along with it anyway because progressives have captured the "better future" brand so effectively,
3) and they really really want their bionic limbs and starships.
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Ironically, the lack of children pregnancy in the vanilla game has kind of invited this kind of thing - in Rimworld, the purpose of sex is 100 "pleasurepair bonding" and 0 "making new humans" ie. queer. In this reality, being "heteronormative" would indeed be a bad thing. Maybe in the future we will all be clones living on IRL Glitterworlds and we won't have to be heteronormative. Of course, this isn't intentional - the lack of reproduction in the game is, as far as I can tell, partly because it would result in kids being made into hats, and partly because Ludeon is an indie studio who don't have the time or resources to implement every single feature they might like to. On a real "rimworld", contraception wouldn't be widely available. You could maybe get an abortion, but it would probably take place in a wooden shack and the doctor might be missing a thumb and high on smokeleaf. The colonists simply wouldn't have the luxury of being able to treat sex and reproduction as two separate things. People forget Rimworld isn't Star Trek, it's a space Western. The aesthetic isn't supposed to be utopian - it's desperate and grimy, but the actual game mechanics don't quite line up with the aesthetic when it comes to sex. Implicitly, in the Rimworld setting, most new humans are still made via old-school heterosexual sex (you just never see it on screen as a player), therefore most of the people who live in it are heteronormative, therefore the trait implementation. With this in mind, we can circle back to the PC Gamer review. I propose that Rimworld's ideological crime, in the eyes of the author, is ambiguous optimism. The telos of the progressive world view is "a better future", so sci-fi becomes politicized. If you're a progressive scientist, you might want to achieve a better future by curing diseases, or finding better ways to generate energy without polluting. If you're a progressive journalist (a tautology but I digress), you're less concerned with the supply of "better future" than the demand - your job is to keep everyone on the same page. When the future is depicted in sci-fi, it must clearly be either "the good future where we win" or "the bad future where the bad guys win". Rimworld refuses to do this - it shows a world where some things are better, some are worse, some things stay the same and some are wildly different (part of why I love it so much). This is threatening to progressives because it risks sowing seeds of doubt in the people they want to convert to progressivism. The idea that humanity can have AI and nanotech and still be heteronormative is seen as Not OK, because even the journalists are aware that: 1) a lot of people have doubts about social justice etc., 2) but go along with it anyway because progressives have captured the "better future" brand so effectively, 3) and they really really want their bionic limbs and starships.
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>199 https://www1.salary.com/family-physician-Salary.html
>219 https://www.medscape.com/slideshow/2018-compensation-family-physician-6009655#2
>206 https://www.ziprecruiter.com/Salaries/Primary-Care-Physician-Salary
Do you not understand the difference between median and average?
>And you need to learn how to read. Your own article states that people didn't want to pay to train doctors because they expected a glut of doctors and they didn't want to waste medicare money on it.
And for years, it's been known that there was going to be a shortage, yet, because of the artificial cap, they cannot increase the number of residency positions relative to graduates. That's how an artificial cap works.
>The United States boasts over 700,000 physicians, more per capita than any other country.
>hmm wonder why they thought that?
And now we don't. Largely because of the artificial cap. Do you not see where this is going?
>Is it closer to 40 or 60?, The older docs tend to work less hours. Just like the rest of the population.
Relatively even split. 21.9% 40-50. 26.1% 50-60.
>Yea and theres work hour restrictions on pilots, and usually they don't have to tell people theyre going to die. So yea maybe it is a little more emotionally draining than talking to people on the intercom.
Pilots are limited to 60 hours a week. And emotionally draining? Come on. Most family practice docs aren't the ones to deliver the news. Get off your high horse.
>Well theyre not very good cause if 72% are getting dropped, now are they?
The vast majority are for a good cause. http://archive.sph.harvard.edu/press-releases/2006-releases/press05102006.html
>Actually No. We already discussed the "artificial shortage" thanks for the source btw.
Yep. We've shown there to be an artificial shortage. You're welcome for the sources. I'm glad I could educate you.
>Yes jobs that are hard to do and require significant training demand higher salaries-in any career. Its simple economics.
That's just not true. Scientist would be one of them. Why aren't they paid as well as physicians? Because there's no artificial limit imposed on the number of scientists.
>But, if you took time to learn your history, you would know that the medical field became so highly regulated because people would pedal worthless garbage as cures and doctors were being poorly and inadequately/minimally trained.
You're not saying anything that isn't already well understood and known. And there were more reasons for Flexner than what you're bringing to the table. It was about control.
>If you think doctors are overpaid and don't like it, don't go see them then.
Most will be replaced by AI in short order.
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gt;199 https:www1.salary.comfamily-physician-Salary.html gt;219 https:www.medscape.comslideshow2018-compensation-family-physician-60096552 gt;206 https:www.ziprecruiter.comSalariesPrimary-Care-Physician-Salary Do you not understand the difference between median and average? gt;And you need to learn how to read. Your own article states that people didn't want to pay to train doctors because they expected a glut of doctors and they didn't want to waste medicare money on it. And for years, it's been known that there was going to be a shortage, yet, because of the artificial cap, they cannot increase the number of residency positions relative to graduates. That's how an artificial cap works. gt;The United States boasts over 700,000 physicians, more per capita than any other country. gt;hmm wonder why they thought that? And now we don't. Largely because of the artificial cap. Do you not see where this is going? gt;Is it closer to 40 or 60?, The older docs tend to work less hours. Just like the rest of the population. Relatively even split. 21.9 40-50. 26.1 50-60. gt;Yea and theres work hour restrictions on pilots, and usually they don't have to tell people theyre going to die. So yea maybe it is a little more emotionally draining than talking to people on the intercom. Pilots are limited to 60 hours a week. And emotionally draining? Come on. Most family practice docs aren't the ones to deliver the news. Get off your high horse. gt;Well theyre not very good cause if 72 are getting dropped, now are they? The vast majority are for a good cause. http:archive.sph.harvard.edupress-releases2006-releasespress05102006.html gt;Actually No. We already discussed the "artificial shortage" thanks for the source btw. Yep. We've shown there to be an artificial shortage. You're welcome for the sources. I'm glad I could educate you. gt;Yes jobs that are hard to do and require significant training demand higher salaries-in any career. Its simple economics. That's just not true. Scientist would be one of them. Why aren't they paid as well as physicians? Because there's no artificial limit imposed on the number of scientists. gt;But, if you took time to learn your history, you would know that the medical field became so highly regulated because people would pedal worthless garbage as cures and doctors were being poorly and inadequatelyminimally trained. You're not saying anything that isn't already well understood and known. And there were more reasons for Flexner than what you're bringing to the table. It was about control. gt;If you think doctors are overpaid and don't like it, don't go see them then. Most will be replaced by AI in short order.
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>219 https://www.medscape.com/slideshow/2018-compensation-family-physician-6009655#2
>206 https://www.ziprecruiter.com/Salaries/Primary-Care-Physician-Salary
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>how it can detect things like Alzheimer's super early. If AI doesn't exist what are they using and how can they get away with calling it AI?
This type of research leans more toward machine learning, which is a component of AI, but often spoken of interchangeably.
An easy way to understand this is to think of how human doctors would evaluate a person's chances for having Alzheimer's. Whether or not a diagnosis by a single doctor is correct would depend on that doctor's experience and how thorough his examination was. Now consider 10 doctors evaluating the patient, bringing all of their collective knowledge and experience to the table. The chances of a correct diagnosis go up significantly, right? With machine learning, you are potentially applying the knowledge and experience of thousands, if not millions of cases. And with every case, that body of knowledge grows and is available for every future evaluation.
This is where AI comes in. Rather than a doctor having to examine the findings, input them and decipher the results, AI can do the evaluation in a much shorter time, while being more objective and more exact. I believe this research specifically revolved around brain scans. Whereas one doctor or even a team of doctors may not have been able to study a large group of scans and draw a conclusion that certain conditions in the brain predict Alzheimer's, AI could.
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gt;how it can detect things like Alzheimer's super early. If AI doesn't exist what are they using and how can they get away with calling it AI? This type of research leans more toward machine learning, which is a component of AI, but often spoken of interchangeably. An easy way to understand this is to think of how human doctors would evaluate a person's chances for having Alzheimer's. Whether or not a diagnosis by a single doctor is correct would depend on that doctor's experience and how thorough his examination was. Now consider 10 doctors evaluating the patient, bringing all of their collective knowledge and experience to the table. The chances of a correct diagnosis go up significantly, right? With machine learning, you are potentially applying the knowledge and experience of thousands, if not millions of cases. And with every case, that body of knowledge grows and is available for every future evaluation. This is where AI comes in. Rather than a doctor having to examine the findings, input them and decipher the results, AI can do the evaluation in a much shorter time, while being more objective and more exact. I believe this research specifically revolved around brain scans. Whereas one doctor or even a team of doctors may not have been able to study a large group of scans and draw a conclusion that certain conditions in the brain predict Alzheimer's, AI could.
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I don't think so, but artificial intelligence can play an important role by providing second opinion to doctors, radiologist, pathologist etc. & can assist them
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I don't think so, but artificial intelligence can play an important role by providing second opinion to doctors, radiologist, pathologist etc. amp; can assist them
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Yes, but ONLY for administrative technology. Why do we still use faxes or mail paper copies instead of using cloud-based services? Why do we use clunky medical journal systems when we have Word and Excel? (and why are the journal systems not based on an Internet browser?) Why do we not have more AI for simple, algorithm-based tasks (e. g. user-friendly work-up algorithms for physicians, simply check the boxes you have completed instead of extensive documenting and doing away with the need to manually search the text when the next physician comes along?)
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Yes, but ONLY for administrative technology. Why do we still use faxes or mail paper copies instead of using cloud-based services? Why do we use clunky medical journal systems when we have Word and Excel? (and why are the journal systems not based on an Internet browser?) Why do we not have more AI for simple, algorithm-based tasks (e. g. user-friendly work-up algorithms for physicians, simply check the boxes you have completed instead of extensive documenting and doing away with the need to manually search the text when the next physician comes along?)
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Data is unique in being a *sentient* robot, which only Dr. Soong was demonstrated to be able to make (at least, within The Federation). Other robots are at best intelligent enough to mostly mimic humans, but not quite over the edge.
Artificial intelligences in Star Trek have a *soft* border between being sentient or not. They also have the technology to investigate an intelligence such that a mere Turing Test isn't sufficient.
Take, for instance Voyager's Doctor, who is not considered sentient and has no real free will despite appearingto be very intelligent and human. He evolves because of the unprecedented amount of time he is active, and the experiences that the computer system assigned to his programming has to learn to interpret and crossesthe fuzzy line into sentience.
Their computer systems also, for being vastly faster and more complex than ours, are remarkably less flexible and capable of learning than ours.
As a result, any robot they can trust to complete a mission, given the myriad unexpected variables they would have to intelligently navigate, would push the boundaries of what would be sentient. And sentient beings deserve all the freedom and protection of the Federation, regardless of their origin.
So a legion of Datas would be used in slavery, as would a legion of intelligent holograms (indeed, this very point is brought up by Voyager and the clear sentience displayed by the Doctor). A legion of robots or holograms that aren't sentient wouldn't be reliable enough to complete missions without extensive human (or Vulcan, or whatever) oversight. Or else, they would learn and experience and gain that flexibility and become sentient.
And pervading all of the Federation's explorers is the wonder and joy of exploration. Why send a robot to experience the fresh new worlds never before seen by the federation? How dull a life would that be, to sit at a console mulling through data and numbers, or how fake and lifeless to try to recreate the experience in a holodeck? No! That's not the spirit of the Federation, certainly not the spirit of humanity, which is not only willing but disturbingly driven to go places and perform experiments that even adventurous vulcans shy away from.
Still, there are plenty of unmanned probes sent hither and thither, or left to watch the things already explored by a living crew but mind numbingly mundane unless something unexpected happens. Or sent into places that the Federation's impressive technology can't guarantee will be safe for crew members.
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Data is unique in being a sentient robot, which only Dr. Soong was demonstrated to be able to make (at least, within The Federation). Other robots are at best intelligent enough to mostly mimic humans, but not quite over the edge. Artificial intelligences in Star Trek have a soft border between being sentient or not. They also have the technology to investigate an intelligence such that a mere Turing Test isn't sufficient. Take, for instance Voyager's Doctor, who is not considered sentient and has no real free will despite appearingto be very intelligent and human. He evolves because of the unprecedented amount of time he is active, and the experiences that the computer system assigned to his programming has to learn to interpret and crossesthe fuzzy line into sentience. Their computer systems also, for being vastly faster and more complex than ours, are remarkably less flexible and capable of learning than ours. As a result, any robot they can trust to complete a mission, given the myriad unexpected variables they would have to intelligently navigate, would push the boundaries of what would be sentient. And sentient beings deserve all the freedom and protection of the Federation, regardless of their origin. So a legion of Datas would be used in slavery, as would a legion of intelligent holograms (indeed, this very point is brought up by Voyager and the clear sentience displayed by the Doctor). A legion of robots or holograms that aren't sentient wouldn't be reliable enough to complete missions without extensive human (or Vulcan, or whatever) oversight. Or else, they would learn and experience and gain that flexibility and become sentient. And pervading all of the Federation's explorers is the wonder and joy of exploration. Why send a robot to experience the fresh new worlds never before seen by the federation? How dull a life would that be, to sit at a console mulling through data and numbers, or how fake and lifeless to try to recreate the experience in a holodeck? No! That's not the spirit of the Federation, certainly not the spirit of humanity, which is not only willing but disturbingly driven to go places and perform experiments that even adventurous vulcans shy away from. Still, there are plenty of unmanned probes sent hither and thither, or left to watch the things already explored by a living crew but mind numbingly mundane unless something unexpected happens. Or sent into places that the Federation's impressive technology can't guarantee will be safe for crew members.
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We will see. With the coming of better AI things will change. I'll ask the computer for and get a better diagnosis than you will, Doctor. Not to remove you from the equation but to make the process better.
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That said I've yet to be informed and do my own research into things to help myself.
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We will see. With the coming of better AI things will change. I'll ask the computer for and get a better diagnosis than you will, Doctor. Not to remove you from the equation but to make the process better. amp;x200B; That said I've yet to be informed and do my own research into things to help myself.
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Dude google it your self. In the time it took you too think of red herring reasons to continue your misguided beliefs, you could have learned something.
It's also cute that you think doctors do most of that stuff. The surgery will be even easier to automate than the diagnosis. Also one article clearly demonstrates robots are better at prescribing treatment than doctors.
Notice I never said it will replace nurses. Because unlike doctors who actually do very little, nurses do a wide variety of difficult to automate tasks. The near future will be robots with a support staff.
The only roadblock to this obvious advancement of medical care will be the doctors and AMA themselves, whose primary goals will become very similar to John Henry's. Except instead of killing themselves, they will be killing you and I.
There is a reason that most predict the medical field will be one of the first to be heavily automated by ai. Because it's so easy. It's literally the dream scenario for ai to be successful in. It's extremely black and white and there are rules for everything. Which is also why humans are so very bad at it.
Of course, you can always identify the oblivious by how hard they deny the rapid approach of AI and automation.
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Dude google it your self. In the time it took you too think of red herring reasons to continue your misguided beliefs, you could have learned something. It's also cute that you think doctors do most of that stuff. The surgery will be even easier to automate than the diagnosis. Also one article clearly demonstrates robots are better at prescribing treatment than doctors. Notice I never said it will replace nurses. Because unlike doctors who actually do very little, nurses do a wide variety of difficult to automate tasks. The near future will be robots with a support staff. The only roadblock to this obvious advancement of medical care will be the doctors and AMA themselves, whose primary goals will become very similar to John Henry's. Except instead of killing themselves, they will be killing you and I. There is a reason that most predict the medical field will be one of the first to be heavily automated by ai. Because it's so easy. It's literally the dream scenario for ai to be successful in. It's extremely black and white and there are rules for everything. Which is also why humans are so very bad at it. Of course, you can always identify the oblivious by how hard they deny the rapid approach of AI and automation.
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Capitalism has historically been the best system to increase aggregate human prosperity. No doubt about it.
The issue for the 21st century is whether this will continue to be the case. It has always been an axiom of free market economics that the average human laborer??s labor will have value in the marketplace and that any human can (in theory) pursue more education/skills training to increase the market value of their labor.
What happens if this axiom is no longer true? If AI and automation displace massive amounts of human labor to the degree that the average human??s labor simply has no or de minimis value in the market, does capitalism as we know it work? Doctors, lawyers, all drivers, almost all of retail, etc... are likely susceptible to automation. And the idea that these millions will retrain for post-AI jobs is laughable.
So yes, capitalism has been the best system if human labor has value in the marketplace. But capitalism doesn??t care about the number of jobs; it cares about capital and increasing capital. If amazon can return 100X to its shareholders by completely automating its warehouses and transportation, it will.
The idea that we don??t need some form of redistribution of wealth in this scenario is ludicrous. Unbridled free market capitalism in the 21st century won??t work. Some form of UBI or wealth tax will be required and this will become increasingly obvious in the next decade.
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Capitalism has historically been the best system to increase aggregate human prosperity. No doubt about it. The issue for the 21st century is whether this will continue to be the case. It has always been an axiom of free market economics that the average human laborers labor will have value in the marketplace and that any human can (in theory) pursue more educationskills training to increase the market value of their labor. What happens if this axiom is no longer true? If AI and automation displace massive amounts of human labor to the degree that the average humans labor simply has no or de minimis value in the market, does capitalism as we know it work? Doctors, lawyers, all drivers, almost all of retail, etc... are likely susceptible to automation. And the idea that these millions will retrain for post-AI jobs is laughable. So yes, capitalism has been the best system if human labor has value in the marketplace. But capitalism doesnt care about the number of jobs; it cares about capital and increasing capital. If amazon can return 100X to its shareholders by completely automating its warehouses and transportation, it will. The idea that we dont need some form of redistribution of wealth in this scenario is ludicrous. Unbridled free market capitalism in the 21st century wont work. Some form of UBI or wealth tax will be required and this will become increasingly obvious in the next decade.
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It does not make sense. The reason is because we are talking about a world in post-scarcity, with AI and automation taking the jobs. The supermajority of people are not working anymore, because there aren't enough jobs and we have everything we need provided for free. (This is a silly fantasy that we are discussing just as a thought game. I don't believe this will ever happen. You need to read all the prior comments.) In this world, you don't get paid (or all get paid the same basic income or rations or whatever), so there is no way to decide who can live in the nice places based on the market. Even if people are still working, but for the same basic income, then who gets to decide what job is the better or harder job deserving of a better place to live? Is being a doctor better or harder? Who works harder, a psychiatrist listening to people and writing prescriptions in a comfy chair or a garbage man riding around in the heat on a loud, smelly truck hauling heavy garbage barrels into the truck all day? Does an accountant work harder than a statistician? Does a Walmart bagger work harder than a librarian? These decisions are all arbitrary.
>Providing minim things doesn't mean better things aren't available for those that can find them
This sounds like you are trying to argue for basic income or other welfare. Again, we are talking about a world of post-scarcity. That means everything you want is provided for everyone. There are no nicer ordinary things, because if you make a nicer ordinary thing then we just have the AI robots make a billion more of them for everyone. That is why I was arguing about land. You can make lots of fancy cars or houses or toys, but you can't have a robot 3D print you another Earth. That is why I was arguing about competition for housing location. I am not saying that we cannot or should not house everyone in a post-scarcity world. I am saying even then there will be competition for who gets to live where, but there will be no more market forces to resolve those disputes. Right now I can say I get the nice beach house instead of you because I am willing to pay more for it. When money is meaningless or we all get the same basic income, then I cannot pay more than you because we either have the same finances or we both have no money at all. In that scenario, who gets to live where we both want to live? That is what we are discussing.
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It does not make sense. The reason is because we are talking about a world in post-scarcity, with AI and automation taking the jobs. The supermajority of people are not working anymore, because there aren't enough jobs and we have everything we need provided for free. (This is a silly fantasy that we are discussing just as a thought game. I don't believe this will ever happen. You need to read all the prior comments.) In this world, you don't get paid (or all get paid the same basic income or rations or whatever), so there is no way to decide who can live in the nice places based on the market. Even if people are still working, but for the same basic income, then who gets to decide what job is the better or harder job deserving of a better place to live? Is being a doctor better or harder? Who works harder, a psychiatrist listening to people and writing prescriptions in a comfy chair or a garbage man riding around in the heat on a loud, smelly truck hauling heavy garbage barrels into the truck all day? Does an accountant work harder than a statistician? Does a Walmart bagger work harder than a librarian? These decisions are all arbitrary. gt;Providing minim things doesn't mean better things aren't available for those that can find them This sounds like you are trying to argue for basic income or other welfare. Again, we are talking about a world of post-scarcity. That means everything you want is provided for everyone. There are no nicer ordinary things, because if you make a nicer ordinary thing then we just have the AI robots make a billion more of them for everyone. That is why I was arguing about land. You can make lots of fancy cars or houses or toys, but you can't have a robot 3D print you another Earth. That is why I was arguing about competition for housing location. I am not saying that we cannot or should not house everyone in a post-scarcity world. I am saying even then there will be competition for who gets to live where, but there will be no more market forces to resolve those disputes. Right now I can say I get the nice beach house instead of you because I am willing to pay more for it. When money is meaningless or we all get the same basic income, then I cannot pay more than you because we either have the same finances or we both have no money at all. In that scenario, who gets to live where we both want to live? That is what we are discussing.
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Figured you were young. Definitely gyno from puberty.
Honestly it will probably stop growing, and maybe go away on its own. Ralox is your best bet. Since you??re ?°natural?± you could use an AI to lower E2. The doctor might even prescribe something. But if I had to guess.... your levels are fine, and this is from puberty. So back to Ralox / Nolva or surgery. Or just give it time.
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Figured you were young. Definitely gyno from puberty. Honestly it will probably stop growing, and maybe go away on its own. Ralox is your best bet. Since youre natural you could use an AI to lower E2. The doctor might even prescribe something. But if I had to guess.... your levels are fine, and this is from puberty. So back to Ralox Nolva or surgery. Or just give it time.
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Totally agree with everything Coggler said above, and also hope you join us on discord.
So sorry you??re going through all this, it totally sucks! If it??s of any consolation, a lot of us arthritis folks have to suffer through a long time, or see multiple specialists before anyone finally figures things out. So, don??t lose hope and keep advocating for yourself! Keep going back. Moderate pain is not ok. Limiting your ability to enjoy life, and be physically active is not ok. If need be, focus on that with them and how poor your quality of life is at such a young age. Also if you need to, seek a younger rheumatologist who might be more open to aggressive treatment, or even just agreeing that seronegative autoimmune conditions exist. A lot of older/old school rheumatologists can be more hesitant to want to treat without clear, decisive blood work. My last rheumatologist told me that my blood results could be stone cold normal and he??d still say I had an autoimmune issue and needed treated by a rheumatologist. You don??t necessarily have to have positive blood work, and it certainly doesn??t need to be a clear cut case.
Also, side note, it??s pretty common to go into remission from RA during pregnancy.
Last, have they trialed you on a course of prednisone? If they haven??t, that??d be my suggestion. It was what finally convinced my rheum that I do indeed have autoimmune arthritis. If you take the prednisone and respond to it, there is a high likelihood that you have an AI. When I took it, it was night and day difference. I was basically fine by the second day. Not responding to sulfasalazine wouldn??t be uncommon either, btw. Not everyone responds to every drug which is another part of what makes treating all this so tough. A lot of people try 4 or 5 or even more drugs before they find the one that is right for them.
Keep your head up! Keep at it. Do not let the doctors make you feel minimized or crazy. Your arthritis and pain are real and it??s nothing to do with how well you ?°deal?± with pain (and also you shouldn??t have to ?°deal?± with pain).
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Totally agree with everything Coggler said above, and also hope you join us on discord. So sorry youre going through all this, it totally sucks! If its of any consolation, a lot of us arthritis folks have to suffer through a long time, or see multiple specialists before anyone finally figures things out. So, dont lose hope and keep advocating for yourself! Keep going back. Moderate pain is not ok. Limiting your ability to enjoy life, and be physically active is not ok. If need be, focus on that with them and how poor your quality of life is at such a young age. Also if you need to, seek a younger rheumatologist who might be more open to aggressive treatment, or even just agreeing that seronegative autoimmune conditions exist. A lot of olderold school rheumatologists can be more hesitant to want to treat without clear, decisive blood work. My last rheumatologist told me that my blood results could be stone cold normal and hed still say I had an autoimmune issue and needed treated by a rheumatologist. You dont necessarily have to have positive blood work, and it certainly doesnt need to be a clear cut case. Also, side note, its pretty common to go into remission from RA during pregnancy. Last, have they trialed you on a course of prednisone? If they havent, thatd be my suggestion. It was what finally convinced my rheum that I do indeed have autoimmune arthritis. If you take the prednisone and respond to it, there is a high likelihood that you have an AI. When I took it, it was night and day difference. I was basically fine by the second day. Not responding to sulfasalazine wouldnt be uncommon either, btw. Not everyone responds to every drug which is another part of what makes treating all this so tough. A lot of people try 4 or 5 or even more drugs before they find the one that is right for them. Keep your head up! Keep at it. Do not let the doctors make you feel minimized or crazy. Your arthritis and pain are real and its nothing to do with how well you deal with pain (and also you shouldnt have to deal with pain).
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Hawking was wrong about quite a few things. He even had something of a reputation about making bets with other scientists about how right he was. Bets that he did lose on occasion. However, these bets were often very trivial, and he was always happy to 'pay up'; be it a $100 wager that the Higgs-Boson would NEVER be found, or his offer to let himself be used as an encyclopedia by the physicist who demonstrated that information DID, in fact, escape from black holes.
Hawking was objectively a genius, and he was right about a lot WAY more often than he was ever wrong about anything; but it's still important to note that, like anyone, his knowledge and expertise was 'limited' to certain fields. As smart as Hawking was, I wouldn't have counted on him to produce an accurate medical diagnosis for an illness, for example; because he wasn't \*that\* kind of doctor...
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To the best of my knowledge, Hawking didn't do much software coding, or would have had reason to know what it would have taken, from a computer science perspective, to create intuitive AI programming, or machine learning, or whatever. I certainly never came across any articles discussing his love of Fortran or BASIC from before he became bound to his iconic chair. I mean, unless you have an in-depth technical understanding of what it takes to write the actual code that produces the kind of capabilities that let a computer program qualify as anything approaching AI, how can you possibly know what advice to give to properly mitigate any associated risks? I mean, what *is* the danger of AI running rampant in the real world? From a genuine, technical, standpoint how would that even occur? *I* certainly don't know; and I'm not convinced that anyone who has never coded a machine learning program even could.
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Doom-saying is all well and good, but it's only meaningful if it's *constructive* doom-saying. A climatologist telling me that mass extinction events are imminent due to changing weather patterns and rapidly rising temperatures unless we control CO2 emissions is one thing. At least a they're broadly telling me how to avoid the doom. A physicist telling me that computers will one day destroy humanity unless we're ambiguously careful about...something...doesn't really help as much...
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Hawking was wrong about quite a few things. He even had something of a reputation about making bets with other scientists about how right he was. Bets that he did lose on occasion. However, these bets were often very trivial, and he was always happy to 'pay up'; be it a 100 wager that the Higgs-Boson would NEVER be found, or his offer to let himself be used as an encyclopedia by the physicist who demonstrated that information DID, in fact, escape from black holes. Hawking was objectively a genius, and he was right about a lot WAY more often than he was ever wrong about anything; but it's still important to note that, like anyone, his knowledge and expertise was 'limited' to certain fields. As smart as Hawking was, I wouldn't have counted on him to produce an accurate medical diagnosis for an illness, for example; because he wasn't that kind of doctor... amp;x200B; To the best of my knowledge, Hawking didn't do much software coding, or would have had reason to know what it would have taken, from a computer science perspective, to create intuitive AI programming, or machine learning, or whatever. I certainly never came across any articles discussing his love of Fortran or BASIC from before he became bound to his iconic chair. I mean, unless you have an in-depth technical understanding of what it takes to write the actual code that produces the kind of capabilities that let a computer program qualify as anything approaching AI, how can you possibly know what advice to give to properly mitigate any associated risks? I mean, what is the danger of AI running rampant in the real world? From a genuine, technical, standpoint how would that even occur? I certainly don't know; and I'm not convinced that anyone who has never coded a machine learning program even could. amp;x200B; Doom-saying is all well and good, but it's only meaningful if it's constructive doom-saying. A climatologist telling me that mass extinction events are imminent due to changing weather patterns and rapidly rising temperatures unless we control CO2 emissions is one thing. At least a they're broadly telling me how to avoid the doom. A physicist telling me that computers will one day destroy humanity unless we're ambiguously careful about...something...doesn't really help as much...
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Yeah they're insane I only got a bipolar diagnosis when they kept giving me antidepressants which caused hypomania I've never had hypo without an antidepressant. Since I resolved vitamin deficiencies and got on TRT and started taking an anti inflammitory my mood has stabalised and I'm no longer on lithium quetiapine or antidepressants.
They jump on that really quickly and mental illness is just a symptom of an underlying dysfunction rather than an illness all of its own. So stupid the way the look at it.
I am actually going to donate blood tomorrow if I can. There's a place open near me.
I am gay and we aren't meant to donate blood though but I get regular hiv checks and I also have the ccr5 delta 32 double gene mutation which makes me resistant to hiv plus blood gets checked when you donate and I don't have that much sex lol I think it'll be fine to donate blood. It is allowed in a lot of countries now.
I'm pretty sure SHBG and total T is important as well. My doctors only seem to look at my free T but I only get fatigue and mood issues when my Total T is low. I think it's important to have normal functioning SHBG and a healthy total T with a normal free T so I need my SHBG to rise to achieve that.
Besides if this was solved the excess free T wouldn't convert to DHT in excess and raise my PSA.
If metformin doesn't work to raise SHBG I might just force my DHT lower with finistride and an AI for E2 to protect prostate.
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Yeah they're insane I only got a bipolar diagnosis when they kept giving me antidepressants which caused hypomania I've never had hypo without an antidepressant. Since I resolved vitamin deficiencies and got on TRT and started taking an anti inflammitory my mood has stabalised and I'm no longer on lithium quetiapine or antidepressants. They jump on that really quickly and mental illness is just a symptom of an underlying dysfunction rather than an illness all of its own. So stupid the way the look at it. I am actually going to donate blood tomorrow if I can. There's a place open near me. I am gay and we aren't meant to donate blood though but I get regular hiv checks and I also have the ccr5 delta 32 double gene mutation which makes me resistant to hiv plus blood gets checked when you donate and I don't have that much sex lol I think it'll be fine to donate blood. It is allowed in a lot of countries now. I'm pretty sure SHBG and total T is important as well. My doctors only seem to look at my free T but I only get fatigue and mood issues when my Total T is low. I think it's important to have normal functioning SHBG and a healthy total T with a normal free T so I need my SHBG to rise to achieve that. Besides if this was solved the excess free T wouldn't convert to DHT in excess and raise my PSA. If metformin doesn't work to raise SHBG I might just force my DHT lower with finistride and an AI for E2 to protect prostate.
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AI will literally replace almost every job eventually( It's not even going to take that long actually in 1st world countries) so I disagree that doctors etc would be on the side of the billionaire class
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AI will literally replace almost every job eventually( It's not even going to take that long actually in 1st world countries) so I disagree that doctors etc would be on the side of the billionaire class
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The future will be AI doctors. Human Doctors make mistakes all the time, wrong diagnosis is common everywhere. It's great to see progress has been made with AI for diagnostic purpose. Eventually we will have less demand for human doctors
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The future will be AI doctors. Human Doctors make mistakes all the time, wrong diagnosis is common everywhere. It's great to see progress has been made with AI for diagnostic purpose. Eventually we will have less demand for human doctors
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I think AI will simply compliment these industries.
Let's use Amazon for an example.
If Amazon partners with a digital health (healthspace or phgi for example), pharma AND medical cannabis, they could use AI (hypothetically) for sales.
Today in Ontario it's -30c. I personally know people over react when it's cold out, and they tend to feel "sick."
They could ask Alexa to give them the wait time updates at local doctors offices /ER / walk in clinics, and using some kind of tracking software (Google maps or Waze?) Predict if a potential "customer" we'll be heading out for an in person opinion.
They could relay this using software like healthspace or phgi and simply alert local offices of a "potential" increase in customers.
Let's say there is an increase in customers, the doctor's office can simply relay this information back to Alexa, which would help the system predict busy periods and build a database of information.
Overtime you could potentially simplify it, by having an app that allows online care to track your visits with an online "specialist" that could partner with a delivery service like parcel Pal.
So here is a full rundown, based on a "hypothetical" situation.
Step A = your mother feels a little "unwell" and you ask Alexa/Google for some basic medical information
Step b - y = AI built over manually input information can predict the likelihood of what medication your mother may end up being told to take
Step y = that information is automatically sent to amazon so they can prepare a shipment that may "potentially" go out.
Step z = once confirmation is done, they can rush that shipment ASAP to the customer using a service like parcelpal.
The good for companies like this is a sort of an illusion that they really care about their customers, and they really were urgent with their reactions to getting them the medication that they need.
The truth is it's just information built up over time that the computer generates over assumptions calculations while accounting for exceptions to the rule.
I mean, when you go to your doctor and they ask you how your dog is doing because they actually remember, or they may just know because it's been recorded in their patient notes.
Does it matter? You feel good that they remember. The same thing applies here.
Now obviously I could be way off on this, because I'm not a professional. But if I wanted to put my competition out of business, this is exactly what I would be doing right now.
There's reasons billionaire big companies are partnering with really small companies like this, in my opinion.
It's a small risk with a huge reward. Get it to "work" and you can buy them for a billion dollars while earning 100 billion in a couple years.
Again, just my opinion.
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I think AI will simply compliment these industries. Let's use Amazon for an example. If Amazon partners with a digital health (healthspace or phgi for example), pharma AND medical cannabis, they could use AI (hypothetically) for sales. Today in Ontario it's -30c. I personally know people over react when it's cold out, and they tend to feel "sick." They could ask Alexa to give them the wait time updates at local doctors offices ER walk in clinics, and using some kind of tracking software (Google maps or Waze?) Predict if a potential "customer" we'll be heading out for an in person opinion. They could relay this using software like healthspace or phgi and simply alert local offices of a "potential" increase in customers. Let's say there is an increase in customers, the doctor's office can simply relay this information back to Alexa, which would help the system predict busy periods and build a database of information. Overtime you could potentially simplify it, by having an app that allows online care to track your visits with an online "specialist" that could partner with a delivery service like parcel Pal. So here is a full rundown, based on a "hypothetical" situation. Step A your mother feels a little "unwell" and you ask AlexaGoogle for some basic medical information Step b - y AI built over manually input information can predict the likelihood of what medication your mother may end up being told to take Step y that information is automatically sent to amazon so they can prepare a shipment that may "potentially" go out. Step z once confirmation is done, they can rush that shipment ASAP to the customer using a service like parcelpal. The good for companies like this is a sort of an illusion that they really care about their customers, and they really were urgent with their reactions to getting them the medication that they need. The truth is it's just information built up over time that the computer generates over assumptions calculations while accounting for exceptions to the rule. I mean, when you go to your doctor and they ask you how your dog is doing because they actually remember, or they may just know because it's been recorded in their patient notes. Does it matter? You feel good that they remember. The same thing applies here. Now obviously I could be way off on this, because I'm not a professional. But if I wanted to put my competition out of business, this is exactly what I would be doing right now. There's reasons billionaire big companies are partnering with really small companies like this, in my opinion. It's a small risk with a huge reward. Get it to "work" and you can buy them for a billion dollars while earning 100 billion in a couple years. Again, just my opinion.
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> Neither do you.
Yes I do.
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Maybe you should get your sabots ready! You won??t have immigrants to complain about soon. Thank you for being part of the greed.
You know nothing about AI that's press fear mongering it's not happening this decade.
>I give a shit about human suffering.
Immigration to Canada increases human suffering. It takes away talented doctors and engineers and the like from places that need it the most preventing them from developing and increasing their quality of life while it causes Canadians to struggle to afford to pay their rent.
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gt; Neither do you. Yes I do. gt; Maybe you should get your sabots ready! You wont have immigrants to complain about soon. Thank you for being part of the greed. You know nothing about AI that's press fear mongering it's not happening this decade. gt;I give a shit about human suffering. Immigration to Canada increases human suffering. It takes away talented doctors and engineers and the like from places that need it the most preventing them from developing and increasing their quality of life while it causes Canadians to struggle to afford to pay their rent.
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> Literally the point of AI development is to replace humans with computers.
Only so that they can do things better and faster than humans. It isn??t just about money; what if we had doctors that didn??t make mistakes or cars that didn??t crash? What about problems we??re unable to solve with our level of intelligence? There probably will be economic problems as we adjust to more jobs being performed by machines, but nobody is working on AI with the goal of making you starve. These sort of advancements should make us more prosperous, with greater value created from less work. Our economic system might not be set up for this yet, but we??ll get there.
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gt; Literally the point of AI development is to replace humans with computers. Only so that they can do things better and faster than humans. It isnt just about money; what if we had doctors that didnt make mistakes or cars that didnt crash? What about problems were unable to solve with our level of intelligence? There probably will be economic problems as we adjust to more jobs being performed by machines, but nobody is working on AI with the goal of making you starve. These sort of advancements should make us more prosperous, with greater value created from less work. Our economic system might not be set up for this yet, but well get there.
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I'm also in Canada.
And ya, it's a hassle to do it "the right way".
I use UGL. And started things off with a TestE blast (since I workout, and was really curious of the effect since I've been training for like 12 years). That would really allow you to feel the symptoms of high E2, and maybe low E2, but it will also allow you to understand how the AI effects you, and what kind of dose would be required. Anyways, afterward I did a PCT and about 1/2 a year later started TRT/HCG. Right now I'm blasting TestA on top of my TestC TRT dose, and HCG, and barely even have to touch an AI. Meanwhile, I was eating Adex like skittles during my blast.
HCG can be a bit complex to add in to your protocol. As everyone reacts differently to it. If you don't really care about fertility, there's really no reason to use it. If you don't know the symptoms of high E2, it can be a bit tricky to get dialed in if you are doing it on your own, but nothing you shouldn't be able to figure out after a couple weeks, and maybe some blood work.
Oh, BTW. I use Let's Get Checked for blood work. I mean, you can go to your doctor, but I don't know how they will feel about you doing self-administered TRT, and it could go on file and screw you for life insurance, if that matters to you. I guess once your levels are in range you can just ask to get blood work on anything from your doctor, and if they question the high test, just tell them you are talking natural test boosters to perform better in the bedroom, or some shit. lol
Whatever, all said is done, and I assume you have exhausted all methods to increase your sense of well-being through diet, exercise, supplements, therapy...etc.
If you are really convinced TRT is for you, and you are going to commit to injecting for the rest of your life, then go ahead, it's your life. Maybe you don't feel like it's right for you after a few months. You should grab some PCT just in case, and maybe some HCG since usually the longer you are on, the longer it will take you to recover to functional natural levels.
Also, the subredit /r/steroids has a sidebar, with lots of good information. It will help you with your quest.
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I'm also in Canada. And ya, it's a hassle to do it "the right way". I use UGL. And started things off with a TestE blast (since I workout, and was really curious of the effect since I've been training for like 12 years). That would really allow you to feel the symptoms of high E2, and maybe low E2, but it will also allow you to understand how the AI effects you, and what kind of dose would be required. Anyways, afterward I did a PCT and about 12 a year later started TRTHCG. Right now I'm blasting TestA on top of my TestC TRT dose, and HCG, and barely even have to touch an AI. Meanwhile, I was eating Adex like skittles during my blast. HCG can be a bit complex to add in to your protocol. As everyone reacts differently to it. If you don't really care about fertility, there's really no reason to use it. If you don't know the symptoms of high E2, it can be a bit tricky to get dialed in if you are doing it on your own, but nothing you shouldn't be able to figure out after a couple weeks, and maybe some blood work. Oh, BTW. I use Let's Get Checked for blood work. I mean, you can go to your doctor, but I don't know how they will feel about you doing self-administered TRT, and it could go on file and screw you for life insurance, if that matters to you. I guess once your levels are in range you can just ask to get blood work on anything from your doctor, and if they question the high test, just tell them you are talking natural test boosters to perform better in the bedroom, or some shit. lol Whatever, all said is done, and I assume you have exhausted all methods to increase your sense of well-being through diet, exercise, supplements, therapy...etc. If you are really convinced TRT is for you, and you are going to commit to injecting for the rest of your life, then go ahead, it's your life. Maybe you don't feel like it's right for you after a few months. You should grab some PCT just in case, and maybe some HCG since usually the longer you are on, the longer it will take you to recover to functional natural levels. Also, the subredit rsteroids has a sidebar, with lots of good information. It will help you with your quest.
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Because there isn't a standard protocol that all doctors know about or follow. Of the 3 doctors that have handled my TRT over the years, only the second doctor was interested in HCG and she prescribed it for the wrong reason.
HCG has been used by athletes for post cycle therapy for years. My own 6 month use reversed infertility caused by 10+ years of gel and shitty injection protocols. I had 2 at home sperm checks show me as infertile. 6 months after starting HCG, I had a professional sperm check done and I came back as "borderline" fertile (I had sufficient sperm, but borderline motility). That's effective.
HCG has some side effects that many doctors fail to manage. It caused my E2 to spike. It went from mid 40's with testosterone only to mid 60s with HCG. The high E2 caused my blood pressure to go high, much more sweating, and I think it caused my Viagra to become ineffective. It wasn't until I skipped a couple doses and then my current doctor prescribed an AI that those problems started to go away. For it to be an improvement in quality of life, you need to have a doctor that's willing to help you manage the side effects. If it wasn't for the massively improved orgasms, I'd happily drop the HCG and have the testosterone dose increased.
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Because there isn't a standard protocol that all doctors know about or follow. Of the 3 doctors that have handled my TRT over the years, only the second doctor was interested in HCG and she prescribed it for the wrong reason. HCG has been used by athletes for post cycle therapy for years. My own 6 month use reversed infertility caused by 10 years of gel and shitty injection protocols. I had 2 at home sperm checks show me as infertile. 6 months after starting HCG, I had a professional sperm check done and I came back as "borderline" fertile (I had sufficient sperm, but borderline motility). That's effective. HCG has some side effects that many doctors fail to manage. It caused my E2 to spike. It went from mid 40's with testosterone only to mid 60s with HCG. The high E2 caused my blood pressure to go high, much more sweating, and I think it caused my Viagra to become ineffective. It wasn't until I skipped a couple doses and then my current doctor prescribed an AI that those problems started to go away. For it to be an improvement in quality of life, you need to have a doctor that's willing to help you manage the side effects. If it wasn't for the massively improved orgasms, I'd happily drop the HCG and have the testosterone dose increased.
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\> It's such a complicated world of managing side effects. Thank you for this answer.
Managing complications is very hard when your doctor is ignorant of good protocols (300 mg of testosterone once a month is fine, what matters is the total monthly dose), ignorant of the medications (HCG is only given to women with fertility problems, my insurance company agreed), or is scared of the medications (Arimidex is only a breast cancer drug!). This was my first doctor and he started his practice in the 80's. My current doctor is much younger and has kept up with newer developments much better. The second doctor thought HCG would lower E2, but also prescribed it in her male TRT patients since they usually wanted children. She was also scared of Arimidex.
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I noticed a positive side effect when I first started TRT using the patch and gel. It had a warning that it could affect bG values and that diabetics should beware. As someone with insulin resistance at the time, it was a score! I noticed that my bG values were at the low normal range when on the gel. I wouldn't have been shocked if they went high when I was on the shitty 300 mg/month protocol though. But during that time I really didn't want to know. When I went to my current 140 mg/week of test and HCG for a while, my new doctor cornered me with an in office A1C test and it turns out it was great (5.2-5.5). This is a side effect that I truly appreciate.
I also had a lot of joint pain and swelling during the 300 mg/month protocol. I assumed it was gout and that Uloric was not handling it any more.
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\> Does this also mean that you don't have to take HCG until you want kids?
It's no a guarantee that you can wait, but my doctor put me on 400 units 3x a week, which seems high. Pro athletes that go on true PCT regimens take larger doses closer together.
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\> Wouldn't the orgasms be better without both HCG and AI?
Happily, because HCG raises E2 a lot for me. I also had elevated E2 while my total T was in normal range as well. Lowering the dose could have lowered the E2, but also made me feel closer to being low T.
I keep it because I might have one good orgasm per week when on testosterone alone. However, high E2 causes Viagra to not be effective in me, raises my blood pressure more, being more prone to sweating, and exasperated my acne. Lowering it the E2 helped with all the symptoms. I had a work around for the Viagra in that Cialis seemed to work better with high E2. However, it also cost $400 for month and was cost prohibitive. My insurance would not cover it.
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gt; It's such a complicated world of managing side effects. Thank you for this answer. Managing complications is very hard when your doctor is ignorant of good protocols (300 mg of testosterone once a month is fine, what matters is the total monthly dose), ignorant of the medications (HCG is only given to women with fertility problems, my insurance company agreed), or is scared of the medications (Arimidex is only a breast cancer drug!). This was my first doctor and he started his practice in the 80's. My current doctor is much younger and has kept up with newer developments much better. The second doctor thought HCG would lower E2, but also prescribed it in her male TRT patients since they usually wanted children. She was also scared of Arimidex. amp;x200B; I noticed a positive side effect when I first started TRT using the patch and gel. It had a warning that it could affect bG values and that diabetics should beware. As someone with insulin resistance at the time, it was a score! I noticed that my bG values were at the low normal range when on the gel. I wouldn't have been shocked if they went high when I was on the shitty 300 mgmonth protocol though. But during that time I really didn't want to know. When I went to my current 140 mgweek of test and HCG for a while, my new doctor cornered me with an in office A1C test and it turns out it was great (5.2-5.5). This is a side effect that I truly appreciate. I also had a lot of joint pain and swelling during the 300 mgmonth protocol. I assumed it was gout and that Uloric was not handling it any more. amp;x200B; gt; Does this also mean that you don't have to take HCG until you want kids? It's no a guarantee that you can wait, but my doctor put me on 400 units 3x a week, which seems high. Pro athletes that go on true PCT regimens take larger doses closer together. amp;x200B; gt; Wouldn't the orgasms be better without both HCG and AI? Happily, because HCG raises E2 a lot for me. I also had elevated E2 while my total T was in normal range as well. Lowering the dose could have lowered the E2, but also made me feel closer to being low T. I keep it because I might have one good orgasm per week when on testosterone alone. However, high E2 causes Viagra to not be effective in me, raises my blood pressure more, being more prone to sweating, and exasperated my acne. Lowering it the E2 helped with all the symptoms. I had a work around for the Viagra in that Cialis seemed to work better with high E2. However, it also cost 400 for month and was cost prohibitive. My insurance would not cover it.
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>How does neoliberalism approach the threat of AI making many jobs unnecessary and putting massive parts of a population out of work over time?
That this will happen is very, very questionable.
More likely is that as AI continues to advance and displaces humans in jobs like construction, fine production, etc., humans will move to jobs were humans have comparative advantages over machines: interacting with other humans.
If humans do get displaced by machines in industry and retail, instead we'll probably see a massive explosion in service industries. A comment on BE said it a while back, and I'm gonna paraphrase it here: the economy of the future (at least in the long term) is the economy of yoga instructors, therapists, and dungeon masters.*
*This is, of course, focusing on the relatively low-skill end, the high-skill end will still be just as relevant as always and we'll still have and need plenty of doctors, engineers, scientists, etc.
>Is Universal Basic Income sacrilege?
Not really. UBI *can* basically be NIT with a few extra or fewer steps, and Milty was the patron saint of NIT. UBI isn't inherently bad, but it really depends on the deets.
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gt;How does neoliberalism approach the threat of AI making many jobs unnecessary and putting massive parts of a population out of work over time? That this will happen is very, very questionable. More likely is that as AI continues to advance and displaces humans in jobs like construction, fine production, etc., humans will move to jobs were humans have comparative advantages over machines: interacting with other humans. If humans do get displaced by machines in industry and retail, instead we'll probably see a massive explosion in service industries. A comment on BE said it a while back, and I'm gonna paraphrase it here: the economy of the future (at least in the long term) is the economy of yoga instructors, therapists, and dungeon masters. This is, of course, focusing on the relatively low-skill end, the high-skill end will still be just as relevant as always and we'll still have and need plenty of doctors, engineers, scientists, etc. gt;Is Universal Basic Income sacrilege? Not really. UBI can basically be NIT with a few extra or fewer steps, and Milty was the patron saint of NIT. UBI isn't inherently bad, but it really depends on the deets.
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Not exactly. A lot of jobs require a certain understanding and pattern seeking that just isn't in AI yet.
Example is visual analysis of xray scans. The patterns aren't exactly predictable and it'll take a long time of adaptation to teach something to automate a doctor doing that. So at least the next gen of a lot of jobs are safe. Many menial and low class jobs however are at risk as well as a lot of clerical jobs. An example would be warehouse sorting or blood testing.
TLDR we have at least 2 generations.
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Not exactly. A lot of jobs require a certain understanding and pattern seeking that just isn't in AI yet. Example is visual analysis of xray scans. The patterns aren't exactly predictable and it'll take a long time of adaptation to teach something to automate a doctor doing that. So at least the next gen of a lot of jobs are safe. Many menial and low class jobs however are at risk as well as a lot of clerical jobs. An example would be warehouse sorting or blood testing. TLDR we have at least 2 generations.
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Why are we the big scalp?
Why don't they ever talk about call centre workers, secretaries, engineers, AI Developers.
Why are we this fucking white whale? If you can program something to make a doctors decisions, you can program it to make a lot of engineering ones.
What you can't program it to do currently, and what they never want to talk about programming it to do is take medical liability for its decisions, to acknowledge GIGO as a massive problem for these algorithms and to acknowledge the limitations they've already encountered i.e always making radiologists blind to histories.
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Why are we the big scalp? Why don't they ever talk about call centre workers, secretaries, engineers, AI Developers. Why are we this fucking white whale? If you can program something to make a doctors decisions, you can program it to make a lot of engineering ones. What you can't program it to do currently, and what they never want to talk about programming it to do is take medical liability for its decisions, to acknowledge GIGO as a massive problem for these algorithms and to acknowledge the limitations they've already encountered i.e always making radiologists blind to histories.
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I'd ask Bezos to transfer all his wealth to my account which is a shell corporation in British Virgin Islands. Then I'll start off by building primary and secondary schools around my home country (which is free to attend for everyone regardless of income). I'll also build reskilling centres that'll help everyone from farmers to construction workers to learn any new skill they want (obviously not something exotic like options trader), for free of cost. Then I'll build a university hospital. All students graduating have to spend a minimum of two years as a certified doctor serving in the hospital for which they'll get paid (but not as much as private hospitals). The upside is free medical education. Patients will pay based on their income (which will be determined by the national ID card, may have to add a field for that). They'll also have to take mandatory tutorials on hygiene (still needs to be learned by some rural people in my country). Once the hospitals are functioning well, I'll lobby my govt to merge my hospitals with the govt hospitals where I'll take care of the expenses of the govt hospitals, but all govt officials from clerks to important officers (except VIPs due to security issues) must get treated from my hospital.
Meanwhile I'll also start a fund to help emerging startups that have potential.
I'll target and encourage those that deal in the field of quantum physics, renewable energy, AI, cybersecurity, and other interesting ideas.
Once the schools, and hospitals are functioning well, a huge amount of population would be lifted out of poverty, or at least I believe so. Then I'll ban local alcohol (which is often very toxic and proves fatal), and increase taxes on smoking.
Eventually I'll build universities, but they'll take their time to grow as accumulating brilliant faculty takes time. But it will happen slowly if not steadily.
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I'd ask Bezos to transfer all his wealth to my account which is a shell corporation in British Virgin Islands. Then I'll start off by building primary and secondary schools around my home country (which is free to attend for everyone regardless of income). I'll also build reskilling centres that'll help everyone from farmers to construction workers to learn any new skill they want (obviously not something exotic like options trader), for free of cost. Then I'll build a university hospital. All students graduating have to spend a minimum of two years as a certified doctor serving in the hospital for which they'll get paid (but not as much as private hospitals). The upside is free medical education. Patients will pay based on their income (which will be determined by the national ID card, may have to add a field for that). They'll also have to take mandatory tutorials on hygiene (still needs to be learned by some rural people in my country). Once the hospitals are functioning well, I'll lobby my govt to merge my hospitals with the govt hospitals where I'll take care of the expenses of the govt hospitals, but all govt officials from clerks to important officers (except VIPs due to security issues) must get treated from my hospital. Meanwhile I'll also start a fund to help emerging startups that have potential. I'll target and encourage those that deal in the field of quantum physics, renewable energy, AI, cybersecurity, and other interesting ideas. Once the schools, and hospitals are functioning well, a huge amount of population would be lifted out of poverty, or at least I believe so. Then I'll ban local alcohol (which is often very toxic and proves fatal), and increase taxes on smoking. Eventually I'll build universities, but they'll take their time to grow as accumulating brilliant faculty takes time. But it will happen slowly if not steadily.
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Wasn't expecting to like so much this episode, the journey into Grace's mind turned out to be way better than the summary said.
Made sense that everything Cicada says to her when he visits her would end up rubbing off on her. Being so young, impressionable and especially after he came around to be the father she needed that she supports him in all he does and encourages it as much if not more than the doctor he confides in as well.
Loved the flashbacks to her life with him before the accident until it got creepy when Orlin was killed by that female Cicada. That was a nice twist. I liked the long hair and how the ends of the coat were all ragged up, always thought Cicada looked like the Death Ripper of the metas and that look made it more clear.
As for the rest of the episode it was nice, Flash Museum was a great treat and those comics were meta as hell with the original Cicada cover.
Red Death huh. On one hand it sounds interesting, it's just that he appears to be another evil speedster and the show shouldn't return to that yet. But all in due time.
Liked Nora's words at the end with Iris and how she just wanted her to not become too much like Barry, acknowledging that made Iris feel better.
Looks like she and Ralph will be work neighbours too.
Barry definitely is the first one to start catching up with Sherloque's suspictions, the CSI in him kicked in with his choice of words to Nora.
Well Barry sure isn't wasting time in wanting to use Cicada as the first guinea pig for the cuure. The idea got in his head after he saw the date of the Central City Citizen's creation change so there must be more reasoning behind it. He did say at the beginning that Cicada was a person too that loved his niece as much as he loved Nora so there is that, then again he was shocked at the number of people that he is bound to kill while inside Nora's memories.
I hope he can put a little Gideon hologram AI in his suit's wristband too one day like Nora's has it.
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Wasn't expecting to like so much this episode, the journey into Grace's mind turned out to be way better than the summary said. Made sense that everything Cicada says to her when he visits her would end up rubbing off on her. Being so young, impressionable and especially after he came around to be the father she needed that she supports him in all he does and encourages it as much if not more than the doctor he confides in as well. Loved the flashbacks to her life with him before the accident until it got creepy when Orlin was killed by that female Cicada. That was a nice twist. I liked the long hair and how the ends of the coat were all ragged up, always thought Cicada looked like the Death Ripper of the metas and that look made it more clear. As for the rest of the episode it was nice, Flash Museum was a great treat and those comics were meta as hell with the original Cicada cover. Red Death huh. On one hand it sounds interesting, it's just that he appears to be another evil speedster and the show shouldn't return to that yet. But all in due time. Liked Nora's words at the end with Iris and how she just wanted her to not become too much like Barry, acknowledging that made Iris feel better. Looks like she and Ralph will be work neighbours too. Barry definitely is the first one to start catching up with Sherloque's suspictions, the CSI in him kicked in with his choice of words to Nora. Well Barry sure isn't wasting time in wanting to use Cicada as the first guinea pig for the cuure. The idea got in his head after he saw the date of the Central City Citizen's creation change so there must be more reasoning behind it. He did say at the beginning that Cicada was a person too that loved his niece as much as he loved Nora so there is that, then again he was shocked at the number of people that he is bound to kill while inside Nora's memories. I hope he can put a little Gideon hologram AI in his suit's wristband too one day like Nora's has it.
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You should read the article.
>The AI significantly reduced the average delays for the examinations reported as critical from between 11 to 18 days to about 3 to 12 days. The average delay was reduced from just over seven hours to 43 minutes.
But this has nothing to do with the actual speed of the AI processing the images, it has to do with its integration into the healthcare pipeline. Training a neural network can be time intensive, but after training it makes a prediction on a single image in a fraction of a second. So your chest x-ray could be processed and classified by the AI in a fraction of a second, it doesn't add any delay to treatment and the physician doesn't even have to use the AI classification if they don't want to.
Humans will always need to double check the results, but sometimes interpretation of medical imaging is hard and neural networks are more accurate than humans in classifying some medical images.
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You should read the article. gt;The AI significantly reduced the average delays for the examinations reported as critical from between 11 to 18 days to about 3 to 12 days. The average delay was reduced from just over seven hours to 43 minutes. But this has nothing to do with the actual speed of the AI processing the images, it has to do with its integration into the healthcare pipeline. Training a neural network can be time intensive, but after training it makes a prediction on a single image in a fraction of a second. So your chest x-ray could be processed and classified by the AI in a fraction of a second, it doesn't add any delay to treatment and the physician doesn't even have to use the AI classification if they don't want to. Humans will always need to double check the results, but sometimes interpretation of medical imaging is hard and neural networks are more accurate than humans in classifying some medical images.
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I pair Doctor Poison with Siren and Black Manta and she works wonders. Not so much for her heal, but for the auto-damage at the end of her turn. It does *insane* damage to the enemy team when she's paired with the other AOE bleeders. You're talking 30%+ true damage across the board to the *entire* enemy team.
The down side is that she's slow, but that's okay because you actually want her to go last so that the enemy team has as many bleeds as possible by the time it's her turn. I almost always user her AOE bleed on her first turn, and her heal on her second turn.
Since the AI is reasonably stupid, they tend to mix up their attacks. They often waste attacks on Manta while he has stam ups, and Siren while she has a large stack of evasion. This means that by the time Dr. Poison gets her second turn, your team should be around half health. Then you heal, and your team is right back at full because the enemy has about 10 bleeds per character. Siren should have so many evasions that she can easily finish the match by herself, even if the rest of your team falls. As usual, WG is still a threat to this team. Manta and Siren can both trigger her.
I think she'd be a great fit to your team. The goal there is to take the enemy team down all at once through AOE bleeds. You'll pretty much always lose one or two characters with this comp, but by the third round the enemy should only have one character left and you'll have an easy win. There's no better feeling than watching the enemies die off from huge stacks of bleeds. And I've had Dr. Poison's end-of-turn passive kill off the entire enemy team before. It's wonderful.
I'd suggest Cheetah, Siren, Black Manta, Dr. Poison. Use Cheetah's turn meter boost to give your team an edge in going earlier in the first round, and use the AOE bleeds from the three other characters. On the second round, use Dr. Poison's heal. Constantine and Red Hood are also great leaders in this comp.
Ivy is an awesome character, but difficult to use these days. In this scenario, her best ability is the bleeds she applies from getting hit. The problem is that she dies easily, so I've found she works best against AOE attacks where she isn't the primary target. Then she applies her bleeds without the threat of just being killed.
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I pair Doctor Poison with Siren and Black Manta and she works wonders. Not so much for her heal, but for the auto-damage at the end of her turn. It does insane damage to the enemy team when she's paired with the other AOE bleeders. You're talking 30 true damage across the board to the entire enemy team. The down side is that she's slow, but that's okay because you actually want her to go last so that the enemy team has as many bleeds as possible by the time it's her turn. I almost always user her AOE bleed on her first turn, and her heal on her second turn. Since the AI is reasonably stupid, they tend to mix up their attacks. They often waste attacks on Manta while he has stam ups, and Siren while she has a large stack of evasion. This means that by the time Dr. Poison gets her second turn, your team should be around half health. Then you heal, and your team is right back at full because the enemy has about 10 bleeds per character. Siren should have so many evasions that she can easily finish the match by herself, even if the rest of your team falls. As usual, WG is still a threat to this team. Manta and Siren can both trigger her. I think she'd be a great fit to your team. The goal there is to take the enemy team down all at once through AOE bleeds. You'll pretty much always lose one or two characters with this comp, but by the third round the enemy should only have one character left and you'll have an easy win. There's no better feeling than watching the enemies die off from huge stacks of bleeds. And I've had Dr. Poison's end-of-turn passive kill off the entire enemy team before. It's wonderful. I'd suggest Cheetah, Siren, Black Manta, Dr. Poison. Use Cheetah's turn meter boost to give your team an edge in going earlier in the first round, and use the AOE bleeds from the three other characters. On the second round, use Dr. Poison's heal. Constantine and Red Hood are also great leaders in this comp. Ivy is an awesome character, but difficult to use these days. In this scenario, her best ability is the bleeds she applies from getting hit. The problem is that she dies easily, so I've found she works best against AOE attacks where she isn't the primary target. Then she applies her bleeds without the threat of just being killed.
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This is why AI clinical decisons systems wont happen in the next 10 years. Nobody wants the responsibility for those massive lawsuits. This and clinical decision making is constantly being updated and changing. There is no way they can alpha test new patches without having some sort patient agreement.
I dont think i would ever sign a waiver for an AI to treat me. Maybe when im old and grey but right now AI is at its infancy. I dont even like physician assistants treating me sometimes
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This is why AI clinical decisons systems wont happen in the next 10 years. Nobody wants the responsibility for those massive lawsuits. This and clinical decision making is constantly being updated and changing. There is no way they can alpha test new patches without having some sort patient agreement. I dont think i would ever sign a waiver for an AI to treat me. Maybe when im old and grey but right now AI is at its infancy. I dont even like physician assistants treating me sometimes
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" Obviously, we are most likely over a hundred years away from A.I. being able to take over complicated professions like medicine in general "
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I have bad news for you lol. In 70s and 80s there was one software (I think that it was expert system of some sorts) that would diagnose better then doctors. It would ask patients questions and they would answer with yes or no and it could single out what type of bacteria infection they have better then professional. It wasn't used widely because the technology wasn't that available and because doctors would just give some general strong antibiotic that would kill everything, anyway. (that is really bad habit because of possibility of super bacteria but there you have it...) And results with AI in medicine are getting better and better... There is even a journal called \*AI in medicine\* or something like that.
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"In short, do you think we'll ever see 100% of psychology, therapy, counseling, etc being done by an automaton or will there always be a human aspect?
If you DO believe that psychology could be fully done by an A.I, what's your estimate for how long it'll take before this happens?" Not soon tbh. I believe that it would be one of last professions to be taken over. But it will have some help. I am doing my masters thesis and I am using Neural nets (type of AI). And it is in psychology.
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" Obviously, we are most likely over a hundred years away from A.I. being able to take over complicated professions like medicine in general " amp;x200B; I have bad news for you lol. In 70s and 80s there was one software (I think that it was expert system of some sorts) that would diagnose better then doctors. It would ask patients questions and they would answer with yes or no and it could single out what type of bacteria infection they have better then professional. It wasn't used widely because the technology wasn't that available and because doctors would just give some general strong antibiotic that would kill everything, anyway. (that is really bad habit because of possibility of super bacteria but there you have it...) And results with AI in medicine are getting better and better... There is even a journal called AI in medicine or something like that. amp;x200B; "In short, do you think we'll ever see 100 of psychology, therapy, counseling, etc being done by an automaton or will there always be a human aspect? If you DO believe that psychology could be fully done by an A.I, what's your estimate for how long it'll take before this happens?" Not soon tbh. I believe that it would be one of last professions to be taken over. But it will have some help. I am doing my masters thesis and I am using Neural nets (type of AI). And it is in psychology.
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**Black box**
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So did AI in 2k19 but look at him now /s
Sometimes guys just slip through the cracks, I guarantee if doctors never gave Trier steroids and NCAA??s corrupt ass didn??t suspend him he would be a 1st rounder.
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So did AI in 2k19 but look at him now s Sometimes guys just slip through the cracks, I guarantee if doctors never gave Trier steroids and NCAAs corrupt ass didnt suspend him he would be a 1st rounder.
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Wasn't Ultron going to kill all humans to save the planet? Like Skynet, as if he was the most stupid super-intelligent AI that he did the thing where they think "save the world" means the planet, not the people living in it.
The Time and Mind stones would still be on Earth, so Thanos and the Black Order would still come.
Ultron's plan was twice as bad as Thanos', but it was the same plan - save the world by killing people living in it. He probably would have just felt bad that he accidentally foiled Thanos' plan since if Doctor Strange is dead, they couldn't open the Eye of Agamotto because of the simple but effective spell (unless the other stones could someone break through the thing by brute force.) Would they have been able to find the Sanctum?
With one stone short, he couldn't do the snap. And even if he did, there wouldn't be anybody to snap on Earth anyway.
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Wasn't Ultron going to kill all humans to save the planet? Like Skynet, as if he was the most stupid super-intelligent AI that he did the thing where they think "save the world" means the planet, not the people living in it. The Time and Mind stones would still be on Earth, so Thanos and the Black Order would still come. Ultron's plan was twice as bad as Thanos', but it was the same plan - save the world by killing people living in it. He probably would have just felt bad that he accidentally foiled Thanos' plan since if Doctor Strange is dead, they couldn't open the Eye of Agamotto because of the simple but effective spell (unless the other stones could someone break through the thing by brute force.) Would they have been able to find the Sanctum? With one stone short, he couldn't do the snap. And even if he did, there wouldn't be anybody to snap on Earth anyway.
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Journal Reference:
Evaluation and accurate diagnoses of pediatric diseases using artificial intelligence
Huiying Liang, Brian Y. Tsui, [??]Huimin Xia
Nature Medicine (2019)
Link: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-018-0335-9
DOI: https://doi.org/10.1038/s41591-018-0335-9
Abstract
Artificial intelligence (AI)-based methods have emerged as powerful tools to transform medical care. Although machine learning classifiers (MLCs) have already demonstrated strong performance in image-based diagnoses, analysis of diverse and massive electronic health record (EHR) data remains challenging. Here, we show that MLCs can query EHRs in a manner similar to the hypothetico-deductive reasoning used by physicians and unearth associations that previous statistical methods have not found. Our model applies an automated natural language processing system using deep learning techniques to extract clinically relevant information from EHRs. In total, 101.6 million data points from 1,362,559 pediatric patient visits presenting to a major referral center were analyzed to train and validate the framework. Our model demonstrates high diagnostic accuracy across multiple organ systems and is comparable to experienced pediatricians in diagnosing common childhood diseases. Our study provides a proof of concept for implementing an AI-based system as a means to aid physicians in tackling large amounts of data, augmenting diagnostic evaluations, and to provide clinical decision support in cases of diagnostic uncertainty or complexity. Although this impact may be most evident in areas where healthcare providers are in relative shortage, the benefits of such an AI system are likely to be universal.
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Journal Reference: Evaluation and accurate diagnoses of pediatric diseases using artificial intelligence Huiying Liang, Brian Y. Tsui, Huimin Xia Nature Medicine (2019) Link: https:www.nature.comarticless41591-018-0335-9 DOI: https:doi.org10.1038s41591-018-0335-9 Abstract Artificial intelligence (AI)-based methods have emerged as powerful tools to transform medical care. Although machine learning classifiers (MLCs) have already demonstrated strong performance in image-based diagnoses, analysis of diverse and massive electronic health record (EHR) data remains challenging. Here, we show that MLCs can query EHRs in a manner similar to the hypothetico-deductive reasoning used by physicians and unearth associations that previous statistical methods have not found. Our model applies an automated natural language processing system using deep learning techniques to extract clinically relevant information from EHRs. In total, 101.6 million data points from 1,362,559 pediatric patient visits presenting to a major referral center were analyzed to train and validate the framework. Our model demonstrates high diagnostic accuracy across multiple organ systems and is comparable to experienced pediatricians in diagnosing common childhood diseases. Our study provides a proof of concept for implementing an AI-based system as a means to aid physicians in tackling large amounts of data, augmenting diagnostic evaluations, and to provide clinical decision support in cases of diagnostic uncertainty or complexity. Although this impact may be most evident in areas where healthcare providers are in relative shortage, the benefits of such an AI system are likely to be universal.
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That's a dumb argument. AI is a tool here, like a sanity check for doctors. It could be also very useful in detecting rare diseases, which are often overlooked by doctors. Also, we never really focus on one issue at a time. It would be dumb to stop any progress every time there's a "bigger issue" at hand. We wouldn't progress far as humanity.
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That's a dumb argument. AI is a tool here, like a sanity check for doctors. It could be also very useful in detecting rare diseases, which are often overlooked by doctors. Also, we never really focus on one issue at a time. It would be dumb to stop any progress every time there's a "bigger issue" at hand. We wouldn't progress far as humanity.
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> Further, the statistical models can pick up on symptoms that have never been picked up on by doctors before.
Isn't the AI just reviewing the medical records? If so, wouldn't the doctors be the ones entering the symptoms into the record in the first place?
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gt; Further, the statistical models can pick up on symptoms that have never been picked up on by doctors before. Isn't the AI just reviewing the medical records? If so, wouldn't the doctors be the ones entering the symptoms into the record in the first place?
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Yes and no. What you are saying is correct and hits on something I alluded to in my "edit" of my original comment. If a computer replaced me tomorrow, I don't think patients would like the result. I think patients would find the cold hard truth difficult to swallow. As physicians we often over prescribe and over counsel patients to soften the blow or expectation that a person has. Even if an AI had an empathy program, patients today have a very low threshold for feeling sick and expect medicine to be customer service whereas science is rarely customer service focused.
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Yes and no. What you are saying is correct and hits on something I alluded to in my "edit" of my original comment. If a computer replaced me tomorrow, I don't think patients would like the result. I think patients would find the cold hard truth difficult to swallow. As physicians we often over prescribe and over counsel patients to soften the blow or expectation that a person has. Even if an AI had an empathy program, patients today have a very low threshold for feeling sick and expect medicine to be customer service whereas science is rarely customer service focused.
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Healthcare is one of the easiest places to apply AI. Most doctors kinda suck, especially in rural areas and small towns. Malpractice is one of the leading causes of death in America
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Healthcare is one of the easiest places to apply AI. Most doctors kinda suck, especially in rural areas and small towns. Malpractice is one of the leading causes of death in America
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The machine has no reason to lie to me and pump me full of pills we don't need so scrum like you can get a nice big bonus from big-pharma, so yeah I'm eager when AI takes over general doctor roles
An AI wouldn't send us off to 30 tests to "make extra sure" and get 3 months extra paid vacation for it.
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The machine has no reason to lie to me and pump me full of pills we don't need so scrum like you can get a nice big bonus from big-pharma, so yeah I'm eager when AI takes over general doctor roles An AI wouldn't send us off to 30 tests to "make extra sure" and get 3 months extra paid vacation for it.
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If the AI has the highest probability to get my diagnosis right sooner then yes.
Doctors screw up pretty frequently. Going through multiple diagnoses before getting to the right one is not only frustrating it's expensive.
If I'm in an emergency room or urgent care and I have the choice to pick between the AI with a 95% success rate and an overworked physicians assistant/doctor (if you're lucky) working on contract. I know which choice I'm making.
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If the AI has the highest probability to get my diagnosis right sooner then yes. Doctors screw up pretty frequently. Going through multiple diagnoses before getting to the right one is not only frustrating it's expensive. If I'm in an emergency room or urgent care and I have the choice to pick between the AI with a 95 success rate and an overworked physicians assistantdoctor (if you're lucky) working on contract. I know which choice I'm making.
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Yeah, the AI can only work with the documentation present in the charts. And some physician charting leaves a LOT to be desired.
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Yeah, the AI can only work with the documentation present in the charts. And some physician charting leaves a LOT to be desired.
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>30-50 years.
Where do you get these numbers from seems like you pulled it out of thin air. When people talk like this is reminds of the 90s when they showed what they thought the tech of the future looked like and it was way off. It's making good advancements and it's ever increasing, but
What i am saying,which you and others seem to be missing is we don't have the base line data of how the human body works to plug into a machine. New discovery comes from imagination and interpretation new approaches and placement of value. AI as of yet doesn't do this well. It can help you analyze the data, but independently research and find new things is not its forte. It can take data and crunch it fast and find patterns. That's a far cry from replacing doctors. The huge gaps in our understanding of how the body works will be the limit of AI, till we use it to aid us in that discovery. AI is only as good as its programmer. As AI progresses it will speed up the process, but nothing I have seen is indicative that it will replace doctors. Maybe in a 100+ years we will see AI doing a lot of the leg work, but you'll still need highly educated doctors to be the final decision maker, the one to green light what is happening and verify that the information seems up to code.
I am aware of what HIPAA is and that it is violated. Hence, why I said I would want privacy to my genetic and biologic data to be added to my list of constitutional rights that could not be violated without my consent and levels of security far beyond what we have.
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gt;30-50 years. Where do you get these numbers from seems like you pulled it out of thin air. When people talk like this is reminds of the 90s when they showed what they thought the tech of the future looked like and it was way off. It's making good advancements and it's ever increasing, but What i am saying,which you and others seem to be missing is we don't have the base line data of how the human body works to plug into a machine. New discovery comes from imagination and interpretation new approaches and placement of value. AI as of yet doesn't do this well. It can help you analyze the data, but independently research and find new things is not its forte. It can take data and crunch it fast and find patterns. That's a far cry from replacing doctors. The huge gaps in our understanding of how the body works will be the limit of AI, till we use it to aid us in that discovery. AI is only as good as its programmer. As AI progresses it will speed up the process, but nothing I have seen is indicative that it will replace doctors. Maybe in a 100 years we will see AI doing a lot of the leg work, but you'll still need highly educated doctors to be the final decision maker, the one to green light what is happening and verify that the information seems up to code. I am aware of what HIPAA is and that it is violated. Hence, why I said I would want privacy to my genetic and biologic data to be added to my list of constitutional rights that could not be violated without my consent and levels of security far beyond what we have.
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Doctor here. When I was in med school, they showed us studies that the top 3 most likely diagnoses were determined from history alone. Physical exam and diagnostic tests only altered the diagnosis from the top 3 very rarely, and mainly helped with verifying one of those top 3. The point is that the best way to implement AI to streamline medicine, get it to be able interview patients in a manner more efficient and effective than humans. At that point I will concede that computers are good at medicine. Until then, all they are doing is analyzing the work physicians have already done.
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Doctor here. When I was in med school, they showed us studies that the top 3 most likely diagnoses were determined from history alone. Physical exam and diagnostic tests only altered the diagnosis from the top 3 very rarely, and mainly helped with verifying one of those top 3. The point is that the best way to implement AI to streamline medicine, get it to be able interview patients in a manner more efficient and effective than humans. At that point I will concede that computers are good at medicine. Until then, all they are doing is analyzing the work physicians have already done.
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Exactly, and the situation only gets worse the more people you can apply an algorithm or test to?? a general algorithm for diagnosing something in a global population can be 95% accurate?? but that means it fails for 384,179,005 people. Odds are not a game you want to play when someone??s life is at risk, and that??s why I don??t think AI will ever advance to ?°robot doctor?± levels; there will always need to be a human failsafe as assurance.
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Exactly, and the situation only gets worse the more people you can apply an algorithm or test to a general algorithm for diagnosing something in a global population can be 95 accurate but that means it fails for 384,179,005 people. Odds are not a game you want to play when someones life is at risk, and thats why I dont think AI will ever advance to robot doctor levels; there will always need to be a human failsafe as assurance.
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The way I have it in my head, the past cases being used to train the ai would have to be confirmed cases. So doctors could investigate and use whatever criteria they would normally use to see if the AI got new cases solved correctly. Like checking if a certain treatment cures it.
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The way I have it in my head, the past cases being used to train the ai would have to be confirmed cases. So doctors could investigate and use whatever criteria they would normally use to see if the AI got new cases solved correctly. Like checking if a certain treatment cures it.
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Humans are social animals, I don't think AI will change that. Google assistant is great at screening calls so that you don't have to take spam calls, but until it can understand sarcasm (even some humans fail at that), it will be relegated to just that - assistant. I think going into the future, jobs that will survive automation will be human facing jobs where people WANT to talk to a person or be served by one, and jobs that teach and grow people. I am talking about Doctors and Nurses (people want to feel cared for by another human being), teachers and daycare teachers, then obviously those who end up programming and setting parameters for AI, those interpreting and making laws, and those convincing and inspiring people. Human facing doctors (not radiologists), hit multiple categories, so I really think they will be safe. If anything they (and or nurses) may go back to more old school home well/sick visits, and more of a community health models. Heck, I don't know why local Urgent care clinics don't offer that service for a bit extra. For those with multiple sick people in the family at a time, it would be invaluable.
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Humans are social animals, I don't think AI will change that. Google assistant is great at screening calls so that you don't have to take spam calls, but until it can understand sarcasm (even some humans fail at that), it will be relegated to just that - assistant. I think going into the future, jobs that will survive automation will be human facing jobs where people WANT to talk to a person or be served by one, and jobs that teach and grow people. I am talking about Doctors and Nurses (people want to feel cared for by another human being), teachers and daycare teachers, then obviously those who end up programming and setting parameters for AI, those interpreting and making laws, and those convincing and inspiring people. Human facing doctors (not radiologists), hit multiple categories, so I really think they will be safe. If anything they (and or nurses) may go back to more old school home wellsick visits, and more of a community health models. Heck, I don't know why local Urgent care clinics don't offer that service for a bit extra. For those with multiple sick people in the family at a time, it would be invaluable.
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Oh wow, I didn't realize that your dad has a business and that has warped your sense of money. But hey man, at least you're upfront about it and not taking that lifestyle as a given. I don't know how expensive it is to live to Denver but would you be okay with middle class income or is six figures a must have? What kind of lifestyle do you envision? Six figures in a big city is equivalent to middle class, while middle class in a big city might be well off in a smaller city.
I don't know much about which certs would be the most useful, but it seems cybersecurity is needed. It might be wise to try to find a few free online courses in whatever cert topic first, and see if the topic is what it's cracked up to be. Could you inquire if your old university is hiring IT staff? What would they require for entry-level help desk stuff?
I come from a family of immigrants so my sense of money is different. Personally, I would be very happy after finishing my master's degree in computer science to get a job that pays 60-70k a year and eventually grow the salary slowly over the years. But I understand where comparisons of money and career and status can come from.
I brought up the thing about doctors because at my university, many students declare pre-med. I've gone out with three pre-med girls and the last time was my longest relationship which lasted six months. During that time, my ex was concerned that I wasn't searching for jobs as aggressively as I could have been. I landed an IT internship and my supervisor said a position would open up but it didn't and during that time she broke up with me for various reasons. There were passive aggressive moments, and at some point she mentioned that she thought a programming job at the office was a lot easier than a doctor's job which directly impacted people's lives. It ticked me off and I decided to pursue my Masters/PhD degree in computer science with a specialization in machine learning and artificial intelligence so I could land a higher paying and higher status job.
It's only been one month in, and my grad school classes are way harder than my undergrad classes, and I've started to doubt my decisions and wonder how I let my wounded ego and a breakup motivate me to go to grad school? Luckily, the university provided me with a teaching assistantship that covers tuition.
Thing is everyone will have the thought that "the grass is greener on the other side." Heck, I tell myself that it's a fallacy to think that way and I still think that way. Whatever your career is, you're always going to look over the other person's shoulder. Thing is, they are probably worried about a bunch of things and wish they could change some things just like you.
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Oh wow, I didn't realize that your dad has a business and that has warped your sense of money. But hey man, at least you're upfront about it and not taking that lifestyle as a given. I don't know how expensive it is to live to Denver but would you be okay with middle class income or is six figures a must have? What kind of lifestyle do you envision? Six figures in a big city is equivalent to middle class, while middle class in a big city might be well off in a smaller city. I don't know much about which certs would be the most useful, but it seems cybersecurity is needed. It might be wise to try to find a few free online courses in whatever cert topic first, and see if the topic is what it's cracked up to be. Could you inquire if your old university is hiring IT staff? What would they require for entry-level help desk stuff? I come from a family of immigrants so my sense of money is different. Personally, I would be very happy after finishing my master's degree in computer science to get a job that pays 60-70k a year and eventually grow the salary slowly over the years. But I understand where comparisons of money and career and status can come from. I brought up the thing about doctors because at my university, many students declare pre-med. I've gone out with three pre-med girls and the last time was my longest relationship which lasted six months. During that time, my ex was concerned that I wasn't searching for jobs as aggressively as I could have been. I landed an IT internship and my supervisor said a position would open up but it didn't and during that time she broke up with me for various reasons. There were passive aggressive moments, and at some point she mentioned that she thought a programming job at the office was a lot easier than a doctor's job which directly impacted people's lives. It ticked me off and I decided to pursue my MastersPhD degree in computer science with a specialization in machine learning and artificial intelligence so I could land a higher paying and higher status job. It's only been one month in, and my grad school classes are way harder than my undergrad classes, and I've started to doubt my decisions and wonder how I let my wounded ego and a breakup motivate me to go to grad school? Luckily, the university provided me with a teaching assistantship that covers tuition. Thing is everyone will have the thought that "the grass is greener on the other side." Heck, I tell myself that it's a fallacy to think that way and I still think that way. Whatever your career is, you're always going to look over the other person's shoulder. Thing is, they are probably worried about a bunch of things and wish they could change some things just like you.
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Well, this is just an industrial adoption aspect, but there is something weird deeply rooted in the AI field.
Even in any other sciences you have these "holy grails" like "Grand Unified" of physics, or true "ab initio" simulation in chemistry, or doctors' hopes to understand microscopical reasons of diseases, etc. Probably not so much in pure math, though.
Now take AI - there is this idea in the air that "the holy grail is close", practically whithin the reach. You know, there is this brain... just tell us its structure and we will replicate it... so easy, so tempting. That's why these hypes and winters.
Worse, there are these nice theories about "universal computational machines" and "universal optimal algorithms"... that do not even need brain. One more "hope".
Now you've got 20+ year old technology revived by hardware power (so that's it's worth to tediously prepare datasets) and you have this current "cat-finding" boom (because NewEvils of this world have too much money for nothing and can have tons of pet projects).
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Well, this is just an industrial adoption aspect, but there is something weird deeply rooted in the AI field. Even in any other sciences you have these "holy grails" like "Grand Unified" of physics, or true "ab initio" simulation in chemistry, or doctors' hopes to understand microscopical reasons of diseases, etc. Probably not so much in pure math, though. Now take AI - there is this idea in the air that "the holy grail is close", practically whithin the reach. You know, there is this brain... just tell us its structure and we will replicate it... so easy, so tempting. That's why these hypes and winters. Worse, there are these nice theories about "universal computational machines" and "universal optimal algorithms"... that do not even need brain. One more "hope". Now you've got 20 year old technology revived by hardware power (so that's it's worth to tediously prepare datasets) and you have this current "cat-finding" boom (because NewEvils of this world have too much money for nothing and can have tons of pet projects).
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I think there's a good balance so far. And the relationship episodes, romantic or otherwise, are pretty clearly a part of Orville. The premise alone ensured this : Rising captain finds wife cheating on him, then gets assigned a ship where she's his XO. The Orville and relationships are tightly wound together.
And Alara was always on about boys. Yoffat wanted the doctor since like episode 2. Klyden and Bortis are a staple couple on the ship.
Honestly, the show feels like sci-fi with a sub-genre of romance. And even the romance episodes are sci-fi. What does it mean for an Artificial Intelligence to love? Or how about solving a virtual murder onboard a space ship? Or an alien infiltrating the ship under the guise of love?
Relationship episodes are not *just* relationship episodes. Romantic episodes are not *just* romantic episodes. Sci-fi and humor permeate the run-time. They can lean one way or the other, but on the whole they're fairly balanced, from my perspective.
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I think there's a good balance so far. And the relationship episodes, romantic or otherwise, are pretty clearly a part of Orville. The premise alone ensured this : Rising captain finds wife cheating on him, then gets assigned a ship where she's his XO. The Orville and relationships are tightly wound together. And Alara was always on about boys. Yoffat wanted the doctor since like episode 2. Klyden and Bortis are a staple couple on the ship. Honestly, the show feels like sci-fi with a sub-genre of romance. And even the romance episodes are sci-fi. What does it mean for an Artificial Intelligence to love? Or how about solving a virtual murder onboard a space ship? Or an alien infiltrating the ship under the guise of love? Relationship episodes are not just relationship episodes. Romantic episodes are not just romantic episodes. Sci-fi and humor permeate the run-time. They can lean one way or the other, but on the whole they're fairly balanced, from my perspective.
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But if professionals are more productive we will need less of them. Let??s just say you??re right that you can do he work in seconds what would have taken you five minutes. 5 seconds/300 seconds means it is taking you 1/60 of the time to do your job with ai, so you can se 60 times as many patients, also all doctors are going to be using ai so there is no point in getting a second opinion. Let??s conservatively say 50% of cardiology patients get at least a second opinion and bump that number up 50% to 90 times more efficient now.
True there will always be professionals like doctors and lawyers. But these are the jobs a lot of people think, are either safe from AI or even that we will move more people into once the menial tasks are taken by AI and these jobs are getting more efficient.
We already have an over abundance of people with law degrees, and law firms are becoming mor efficient leading to what many graduated and current law students are calling an articling crisis (this comes from firsthand accounts, but I could find articles on this). Law firms that used to take 20 articling students in one year, now only hire 5-10, because a lot of the jobs they used to have articling students do are automated.
I guess what I??m trying to say here is that I somewhat agree with you, for the people already in place this is not going to impact there jobs. It??s the younger people coming up that are seeing the brunt of loss.
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But if professionals are more productive we will need less of them. Lets just say youre right that you can do he work in seconds what would have taken you five minutes. 5 seconds300 seconds means it is taking you 160 of the time to do your job with ai, so you can se 60 times as many patients, also all doctors are going to be using ai so there is no point in getting a second opinion. Lets conservatively say 50 of cardiology patients get at least a second opinion and bump that number up 50 to 90 times more efficient now. True there will always be professionals like doctors and lawyers. But these are the jobs a lot of people think, are either safe from AI or even that we will move more people into once the menial tasks are taken by AI and these jobs are getting more efficient. We already have an over abundance of people with law degrees, and law firms are becoming mor efficient leading to what many graduated and current law students are calling an articling crisis (this comes from firsthand accounts, but I could find articles on this). Law firms that used to take 20 articling students in one year, now only hire 5-10, because a lot of the jobs they used to have articling students do are automated. I guess what Im trying to say here is that I somewhat agree with you, for the people already in place this is not going to impact there jobs. Its the younger people coming up that are seeing the brunt of loss.
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AI will eliminate healthcare jobs (and most jobs) by allowing more work to be done by fewer people, not by replacing any one type of worker outright. If you've got robots that can replace doctors and nurses and such entirely, you've got robots that can replace *anyone*.
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AI will eliminate healthcare jobs (and most jobs) by allowing more work to be done by fewer people, not by replacing any one type of worker outright. If you've got robots that can replace doctors and nurses and such entirely, you've got robots that can replace anyone.
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I??m a CPA and I??m not the least bit concerned about AI for at least a few more generations of technology, like 5-10-15 years. You have no idea how much of a shitshow it is out there. People talk big about automation and AI, but the amount of work out there and expertise required is staggering. I would imagine it??s the same with lawyers and doctors. So I??ll pass on the alarm.
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Im a CPA and Im not the least bit concerned about AI for at least a few more generations of technology, like 5-10-15 years. You have no idea how much of a shitshow it is out there. People talk big about automation and AI, but the amount of work out there and expertise required is staggering. I would imagine its the same with lawyers and doctors. So Ill pass on the alarm.
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