diff --git "a/1e2qnip.json" "b/1e2qnip.json" new file mode 100644--- /dev/null +++ "b/1e2qnip.json" @@ -0,0 +1,2822 @@ +[ + { + "text": "A reminder that encouraging, inciting or promoting violence is against Reddit’s rules.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Gonna get wild in the US now", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Trump might be an asshole, but violence and assassination is very anti-democratic and doesn't accomplish anything.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Regardless of how you feel about Trump, this shit is not okay. Never is.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I mean what else can an Aussie PM even say? Even if someone wished the guy had been shot, or thinks it's a false flag or whatever else, you just have to say \"glad he's alright!\" and carry on.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "It's the equivalent of saying \"aww he/she's so cute!\" when someone shows you a picture of their newborn or puppy or something. Even if you don't like dogs or kids or whatever it's just the done thing to say so you can carry on.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Did Albo use air qoutes?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "\"It is incredible that such an act can take place in our country\" - Trump", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Really? A country loaded to the gills with guns, and it's incredible that such a thing can happen 🫠", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "![gif](giphy|xTiN0DvoDyWQey2B8I|downsized)", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Just more gun violence in America. When will they learn that arming the 'good guys' is a horribly ineffective way to stop gun deaths?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I seriously wonder how some folks still think of themselves as “the good guys” after something like this.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Reading some of the things people are proud to announce is truly eye opening.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "It’s so *weird* and devoid of any self awareness.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "So many people coping by saying that it was all a stunt", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Yep glad he is okay.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Still want the democrats to win tho.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I'm really curious to see how, if at all, this changes the dynamics for the Democrats.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I expect to see attempts at retaliatory actions, not just with Joe Biden but other democratic members. I can see some totally unhinged right wingers seeing this as an act of war.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "For Trump this is an instant jump in polls. If the shooter was indeed a Democrat and not some random psycho, they did a massive disservice to the cause. Even if they were successful with killing Trump. There was no outcome where this was in any way a good move.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I’m not a fan of trump. But you do not use violence, ever. Glad he’s okay!", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Gonna be a crazy roller coaster between now and the end of the year", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Let this be a lesson to just letting folks on Parliament roof", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I'm no fan of Trump, but I am glad he is safe too.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Imagine how things would be if he got assassinated..pretty sure Biden would be next.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Anti-war presidents tend to get whacked in the US. This is reoccurring.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "we should all feel this way. no one deserves to lose their lives over this stuff.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Downvote me to hell but let’s not pretend Trump would extend the same gratitude and condemnation if the shoe was on the other foot. The man has spent his entire political career stoking the flames of violent rhetoric and ill will against his foes that it was eventually going to catch up to him.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I’m surprised it didn’t happen a lot sooner", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Violence accomplishes nothing. Not the way to go about things.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "So the question is, how long will it be until a lunatic from the Greens Political Party says something in appropriate?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "what the shit is this image of him they decided to use", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Assassinations, Public Protests, and unhappiness with political powers has happened for thousands of years. We just live in an age of civility.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "So he has goodwill towards literal Hitler?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Necessary words. Has his nose grown a bit", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I think it has a bit of “The Dead Zone” vibe in it, with Trump playing the part of Greg Stillson.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Decades of stoking the \"us vs. them\" narrative in the US, inciting ever higher levels of contempt towards the other side. This is the result.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "You have elected officials openly spreading blatant lies and hate publically, be it towards people of color, LBGT+ or any other group. Hiding behind a right to free speech to justify stoking the flames of a society further and further obsessed with distain for people different to yourself.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Are we supposed to be surprised when someone tries to off the guy many see as the figurehead of all this division? Who has contributed immensely to the volitile shithole US society has become?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I don't think any world leader would want another assassinated, except for a few that would be fine with Putin getting killed.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "It is anti-democratic and sets a really bad precedent where it will embolden other crazies all over the world to try and kill politicians they don't agree with.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Albo is not exactly a person who wants unity he is just as bad as any other partisan political hack", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "US is going to do alright, like most things they are just ahead of the curve.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "It seems 99% of everyone has there blinkers on?? Trump is a Psychopathic Lunatic. Who knows what he is capable of, no one really. Thats the problem, even worse is that he has attracted the worst of the worst to support him, Now you can imagine with the worlds largest military force at their disposal and your starting to see the picture. Not to mention project 2025 which includes MASS DEPORTATION PLANS, ever heard of concentration camps. The Republican Party has gone full MAGA now, and due to Trump having pushed through Presidential Immunity with his corrupt Judges it makes him a literally King, worse still a King who is completely nuts.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Now sitting here in poor little Australia with our tiny army and tiny population, just think where will we be with the USA being our strategic protective backstop against all of Asia. He could wake up one day and go i cant stand how Australia has such an important strategic location, or i cant stand the Prime Minister. OK we'll cut them loose, bye bye.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I could go on, but truthfully we are all sleep walking. Follow these guys if you really care about the future of the planet. We are an island but we all share the same small blue dot guys.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "PS Australia media has completely lost objectivity on this situation.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "If your an American Citizen vote BLUE all the way. Destroy Trumps insane plans and we can all look towards a brighter more peaceful future for everyone.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "[https://www.youtube.com/@MeidasTouch](https://www.youtube.com/@MeidasTouch)", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "[https://www.youtube.com/@LukeBeasley](https://www.youtube.com/@LukeBeasley)", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "[https://www.youtube.com/@TheMichaelCohenShow](https://www.youtube.com/@TheMichaelCohenShow)", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "[https://www.youtube.com/@briantylercohen](https://www.youtube.com/@briantylercohen)", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Of course he is safe. Vince McMahon taught him to blade", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I am waiting to see how far the media will go to avoid reporting that the shooter was a member of the progressive left wing death cult.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Left wing people are now so radicalised that they think violence is justified against anyone that goes against their belief in egalitarianism.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "If someone wants to be sexist or racist that should be their choice to make and their ideas should put before the marketplace of ideas to see if their ideas are in fact better.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "At the moment they are silenced and suppressed by left wing activists before they get a chance to spread racist and sexist politics.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I’m surprised it took this long to be honest!", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "It's a terrible thing that should never happen, but those images are some of the best campaign material a nominee can have. Never let a crisis go to waste. It's over for Biden.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "after this, i’m sure Trump will win this year. happened every time.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Like it or not, after this he will win the election, and Trump making fist pump solidified his position.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "They try to bankrupt him, they try to lock him up, now they try and kill him to prevent him becoming President again - it's hard to deny that there is a dangerous and unhinged movement lurking behind the scenes, but apparently Trump is the bad guy and the left are the good guys?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Another subscription article: What's the point in sharing it???", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Yet Putin still walks the earth, why isn't he being targeted?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Fuck Albo too, he is more useless than anyone, EVER. In fact, he is a pissweak mummy's boy who FAILED at his one main election promise, reducing the cost of living...", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "NO wonder Labor struggles to maintain power, cause they aren't getting anything right for the actual Australian public", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "[ Removed by Reddit ]", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Anthony Albanese ‘relieved’ to hear Donald Trump is safe", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "The Prime Minister has described the incident at Donald Trump’s campaign event as ‘concerning as confronting’. Local politicians align on messaging that violence has ‘no place in democracy’.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "JACK QUAIL", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "@JackHQuail", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "less than 2 min read", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "July 14, 2024 - 9:43AM", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Prime Minister Anthony Albanese. Picture: Liam Kidston", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Prime Minister Anthony Albanese. Picture: Liam Kidston", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has said he is “relieved” to hear former US president Donald Trump is safe amid speculation he was shot at a campaign rally in Pennsylvania.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Mr Trump was rushed off a stage by secret service agents just after the campaign event commenced, with the former president’s right ear and the side of his face appearing bloodied.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "“The incident at former President Trump’s campaign event in Pennsylvania today is concerning and confronting,” the Prime Minister said in a statement released on Sunday morning.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Donald Trump was rushed off-stage, bloodied, following loud noises during a rally in Butler, Pennsylvania, on Saturday, July 13. Footage livestreamed on Trump’s official Facebook page shows him speaking. Loud noises were then heard, before securty rushed him off the stage. This is a developing story. Credit: Donald J Trump via Storyful", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "“There is no place for violence in the democratic process.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "“I am relieved to hear reports that former President Trump is now safe.”", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Donald Trump’s campaign has released a statement to say that the former president is “fine”.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "“President Trump thanks law enforcement and first responders for their quick action during this heinous act,” Steven Cheung, a spokesman, said. “He is fine and is being checked out at a local medical facility. More details will follow.”", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Former prime minister Kevin Rudd, the Australian Ambassador to the United States, shared a statement saying “Violence has no place in our democracies.”", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Kevin Rudd AC", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "@AmboRudd", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "·", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Follow", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Image", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "11:36 PM · Jul 13, 2024", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "164", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Reply", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Copy link", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Read 40 replies", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Former prime minister Scott Morrison has expressed “saddened, shocked and appalled” at what he described as an “attempted assassination” of former president Donald Trump at a campaign rally in Pennsylvania.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "“Prayers for him and his family today, as well as all those who put their own lives at risk to protect those in public life,” Mr Morrison wrote in a post to X.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Former Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison with former President Donald Trump. Picture: X", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Former Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison with former President Donald Trump. Picture: X", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "“Prayers also for America and its people, a great democracy and our great friend, at this difficult time.”", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "In May, Mr Morrison met with Mr Trump, who is the presumptive Republican nominee and frontrunner in the race to White House. The pair reportedly discussed the AUKUS defence pact.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "The Shadow foreign minister posted a statement on X, saying “politically motivated violence never has a place in free democracies.”", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Yes, what scomo described as an attempted assasination.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Like it could be anything else. Just an “incident”", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Maybe someone was just trying to pierce his ear and we’ve got it all wrong.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "[removed]", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "It's lucky it wasn't sleepy joe doing his speech, I don't think biden would of even heard the gun shots.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "The backlash to a Trump assignation would have been awful there are just as many nuts on the right wing as the left but the right has a better shot.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Peace ", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Honestly, if we follow the logic of Alex Jones and Tucker Carlson, then obviously this is a fake attempt of assassination! All those were paid actors.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "[deleted]", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Genuinely worried for American citizens and the future of their country.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "This act is terrible for democracy, stokes conspiracies and retaliation, and just gifted an emboldening image to the more volatile candidate (where voters seem to disproportionately value image over actual policy).", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "If I were intending to vote Democrats from a swing state, I'd be pretty unsettled tight now. I really hope that the more regressive administration and dangerous leader are not successful.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Good luck, USA.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "The things you have to say to remain diplomatic", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "[deleted]", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Side note: this incident has given us some of the most historic images of Trump that will last forever. The one of him cowering underneath the special agents with blood trickling down his face is stuff for the history book.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Rest in piss.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "[deleted]", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "No one cares what garbage Albanese says", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I don't care what albanese says.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Just wanted to say Trump was a badass today. So glad he was not killed.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "If Americans won't vote for this badass then shame on them.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "[removed]", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "As an American, I would love to be launched into the sun. 🫠 Election season sucks, but this douche shooter just made things so much worse for the rest of us, as well as took live(s) in the process. Senseless and ridiculous", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "My Dads been saying the US is dissolving since the Reagan years. I remember after 9/11 he told me that he would not be surprised if in 50 years, the US is having another Civil War. I thought he had a bit of a tinfoil hat going on, but given recent events, I’m not so sure anymore.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Reddit's going to be an even bigger shithole now", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "[deleted]", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Already was.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Especially when it is discovered to be staged... Do anything for votes!", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "It accomplishes the opposite in a lot of cases.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Remember when those blokes decided to kill Caesar right in the middle of the senate, and they sort of expected all of his supporters to just pack up and go home and the senate could rule Rome forever in peace?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Yeah, it didn't really work out for them.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "It might have just won Trump the election.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "spot on. cant stand the man but this is a disturbing as fuck thing that just happened. violence to acheive political means is fucked up", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Yes but americans have a bit of a potted history with assanisations of political figures.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "JFK , his brother Robert. Ronald Reagan. Futher back Abraham Lincoln and Jackson", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Well weaponising the legal system didn't work. Had to go to plan B.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I'd much rather see the convicted felon in prison rather than shot dead!", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "To be honest, I think if he was killed many people wouldn’t care as they see him as a threat to democracy and freedom and the West has spent decades killing people who are seen as a threat to democracy and freedom.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Trump has easily shown the US’s institutions and checks and balances aren’t as resilient as people thought they were.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "> but violence and assassination is very anti-democratic and doesn't accomplish anything.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Yes yes, violence is wrong, reddits policy, blah blah blah. But there's no point in trying to dance around it. It's the modern equivalent of killing hitler. And I'm sure those in favour of democracy and justice would have decried it and said oh it's very sad he's dead, we stand against violence, we want fair and open elections, and then they could have had those... because a corrupt, mobster tied, putin loving, traitorous pedophile racist who staged a coup attemp, would be dead.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "So is Project 2025 yet the GOP insists on campaigning for it.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "But he’s not an asshole", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "People are assholes to him", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Same as Trump, very anti-democratic and doesn't accomplish anything. ", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Why do you think he is an asshole?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Yeah but let's be honest, Trumps campaign has been so bat shit insane that it's completely believable to me he set this up.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Shooter was only 120m away.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Secret Service didn't have the rooftop of the closest building covered, even with their own sniper.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "A gun barely high enough calibre for the job and not an AR for some reason.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "The threat neutralised in just 25 seconds.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Enough time to mouth something like \"fight\" and put a fist in the air.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Also the democrats were immediately blamed.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "A great example of theatrics.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Lol. Hitler was elected and then there were no more elections.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "The US and most democracies were built on political violence.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Honestly this is just what happens when you have an undemocratic government system with zero accountability. Congress is often controlled by a minority because that's how the Senate works, the Supreme Court is openly corrupt and the President isn't chosen by the winner of the most votes, and then you have a candidate allowed to run again, even though he attempted a coup, because the system is so shit on every level that he faces no consequences. And recently the Supreme Court (to reiterate, is undemocratically appointed by Presidents elected by a minority of voters) ruled that he has complete immunity. So I'm not surprised someone tried to assassinate him and I don't blame them one bit.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I do, however, think it was stupid. If they hadn't missed, fine. Trump would be a martyr but then the Republicans would eat themselves alive with infighting between now and the election. But since they missed, his campaign is going to be even stronger.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_presidential_assassination_attempts_and_plots", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "To be fair the police and SS fucked up hard here allowing a guy with a gun onto a roof 150m away from former president 🤔 why wasn't there a team on THAT roof anyway 1000m away I understand but 150m away cmon", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Storm the captial is not an incredible act? OK.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "yeah, Especially with all the rhetoric that trump puts out about eliminating his enemies. Could say this was a bit of karma", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "It's incredible such a thing hadn't happened already under his tenure. No figure has ever gotten Americans as riled up as Trump.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I'm honestly surprised it hasn't happened multiple times already frankly.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Both ends of the table are full of unhinged individuals. There's only one genuine crisis in the world right now and we just ignore it for the most part.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Climate change is literally destroying our lifestyle before our eyes and no one bats and eye. Because it would require sacrifice. It should be attacked like a global war honestly, it's the only hope of letting our grandchildren live on a hospitable planet.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "It's still valid to view yourself as a 'good guy' if you're against Trump's policy. Trump having someone nearly assassinate him doesn't change the fact his administration has bad policy.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Here's the thing about Republicans though, they absolutely rage against gay people and accuse them of being paedos, but Trump went to ~~Paedo~~ Epstien Island on multiple occasions and was very cozy with Epstein. Now, less than a week after all that is revealed, someone takes a crack at Trump and misses, and we're supposed to be all, \"poor bloke. Having a rough time isn't he?\"", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "[deleted]", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "yeah It's nuts. I saw the footage, it was all real, not staged. By pure luck it was a bullet that got his ear, unlike the poor audience member who got shot in the head. Had Trump moved his head a few cm, he would've been killed/critically injured. Anyway claiming otherwise needs to actually watch the footage without commentary etc over it.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Everything is his fault of course.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I bet it's the same people who have been running interference for Hamas for almost a year.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "If anything there's no such thing as bad publicity", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "As much as I want the Democrats to win as well this has only strengthened trump's camp unfortunately", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Trump 2024 is almost a shoe in if biden stays in the race.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I do find it ironic that he almost fell victim to the very guns he's trying to keep in the hands of Americans though.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Seems unlikely now though. Hell it was already unlikely. I think we need to get ready for a more isolationist and unhinged America. Certainly can’t rely on them with Trump coming back in.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Even when their supporters try to assassinate the opposition?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "There probably won't be any buildings getting smashed up and set on fire as a result this....", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Looks at the entire history of the US and laughs", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Sheltered take", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "[removed]", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Regan got whacked. Loved him some military.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "He's not anti war. He's pro Russia. Huge difference.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Pro-war only pretend to get whacked.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "You mean like the violent rhetoric made against Trump by countless celebrities and public figures? [https://www.thewrap.com/hollywood-stars-donald-trump-violent-death-kathy-griffin-snoop-dogg/](https://www.thewrap.com/hollywood-stars-donald-trump-violent-death-kathy-griffin-snoop-dogg/)", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "You mean like the media endlessly trying to convince dullards that Trump is \"literally Hitler\" and therefore vio9lence against him is ok?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "[https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/21521958/what-is-fascism-signs-donald-trump](https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/21521958/what-is-fascism-signs-donald-trump)", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "[https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/aug/25/donald-trump-nazis-far-right-charlottesville](https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/aug/25/donald-trump-nazis-far-right-charlottesville)", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "[https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-03-07/is-it-fair-to-call-trump-a-fascist/8328888](https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-03-07/is-it-fair-to-call-trump-a-fascist/8328888)", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "[https://www.smh.com.au/opinion/comparing-donald-trump-to-hitler-isnt-as-farfetched-as-it-sounds-20160727-gqello.html](https://www.smh.com.au/opinion/comparing-donald-trump-to-hitler-isnt-as-farfetched-as-it-sounds-20160727-gqello.html)", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "You don't know. You are just projecting your bad opinion of Trump onto theoretical circumstances to cast Trump in a bad light. Waste of time and in bad taste.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "The guy almost got assassinated today, why won't you just give it a rest for once.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Done.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Your ideas are intriguing to me, and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter Propanda-GPT.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Oh please let this happen. They are too stupid to hold themselves back so they probably will say something. The backlash they get will be amazing.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "you mean they haven't already..? I'm speechless!", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "How much rent do you charge them? I sure hope they arent living free in that old head of yours.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Where woke goes to die.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Do we know anything about the shooter yet though?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "“Left wing people” it’s one dude.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Nice try numbnuts, the shooter was a republican.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": ">their ideas should put before the marketplace of ideas to see if their ideas are in fact better.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Mate if I wanted to listen to dumbasses waffle about their plans to rape kids and destroy the planet I'd subscribe to your podcast.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "There's a reason we're not listening to you.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "[removed]", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "What the right will do to get the pedo news off the front page.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Albanese returned $132 Billion dollars of stolen wages... if you don't think that helps cost of living then I don't know what will.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": ">Yet Putin still walks the earth, why isn't he being targeted?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Because like Xi, Netanyahu and all the others like them that the world would be better off without, they stay protected in their fortresses unless they need to show themselves. Plus it seems like anyone who opposes Putin is killed off before most people would realise they're gone.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Windage was off a hair.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Righto Fedora.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "[deleted]", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Why are you woke's so dense? Someone in the audience was killed, another two are in serious condition. Whats wrong with you guys?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Pretty sure no one will remember that photo. It’s pretty obvious that the iconic one will be of him with his fist in the air with the American flag behind him", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Oh also you say cowering…..would you liked him to stand up straight for the shooter to have another shot at him? Ridiculous comment.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "[removed]", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "MSM are morons- the popping sounds were the shots- unfortunately to those who aren't familiar with gunshots a lot of people didn't realise what was happening", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "It was a sniper from a distance. A guys brains got blown out, a Photo of that bullet passing trumps head. Quite a very real situation.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Please observe reddit site rules:", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "- Don’t Spam", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "- No personal and/or confidential information", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "- No threatening, harassing or inciting violence", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "- No hate based on identity or vulnerability", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "- No calling out of other subreddits or users", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "As a reminder, here are the site rules:", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "https://www.redditinc.com/policies/content-policy", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Be glad Trump didn't die. Can you imagine the anger from Republicans then?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Your country was a literal inch away from civil war yesterday.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Also a lousy shot.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "trump is coming into office in 2025 and we are so cooked", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "So your dad was right?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "wars only start when rich people are unhappy, and there pretty happy currently", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Their people put all their energy into hating one another, rather than those in the wealthy elite who are actively shafting them.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "This is why I hope Australia would stop parroting US politics and culture, that country is a recipe on what NOT to do.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "This decline started with Reagan. He was the one that created their current economic system, the Christian nationalism, the foreign policy and the list goes on. Your dad was right. Reagan is to blame.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Its turning into a dumpster fire of epic proportions, lol", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Don't you dare reach for that zipper.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "The real turning point.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "We have shifted timelines.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Rome was not functioning as a Republic at the time, and the reason that he got stabbed was because he was positioning himself to be a monarch.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "It’s an amazing image", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Trump,", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "bloodied, raised fist, defiant, triumphant, USA flag behind him.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "He looks like Captain America’s grandad.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "It would be hard for Americans not to vote for him.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "He was probably already going to win, but yeah this will absolutely seal the deal in my opinion", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "He literally fist pumped the second he got up. He knew he had to take FULL advantage of this immediately the second he realized what had happened.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Biden is finished after this. Everyone will rally harder around a president who gets up like that after having a shot taken on their life. He just won those who were on the fence.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Hard line democratic supporters would never vote for him regardless but those who were between both sides are probably steering towards him more than they did before.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Shoe in now", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Creating a martyr (or nearly a martyr) is a very bad move. It can (and probably will) backfire badly. People are now more likely to support Trump and/or blame Democrats for the attack", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "He was already the favourite to win.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Hmmm really makes you think doesn't it", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Exactly as he planned.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Bullshit. This just proves how much he's hated.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Possibly not, dudes been ID'ed as a registered republican.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Disagree. People still know he is a rapist and a pedo. Only his cult followers are stupid enough to still vote for him.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Hopefully so", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Yeah there's no depths they won't go down to. They are desperate to get rid", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "of him.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Well someone had to run it up the flagpole… and godammit, why shouldn’t it be you?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Have to hide all the pedo allegation somehow. What better than a pretend assassination.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "You underestimate the insanity of the american people.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Civil War would absolutely break out from the right side of politics. The left not so much.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Every politician will decry actual acts of violence, because they don't want to normalise \"killing politicians you don't like\"... since every politician has people who don't like them.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "As a Jew I’ll admit he’s not as bad as hitler. He has similar means and similar personality traits but he doesn’t have the same ideologies or visions of the future that hitler did. He’s also much older. Trump is all about money and self-promotion, he’s just towing the party line of dangerous people to get into power. He was never actually anti-abortion, anti-vaccine or homophobic in any way, nor was he religious. Now we see him spitting out shit about transgender people, election fraud and whatever the hell else because knows it’s easy to blame other people and inspire violence than to win on his own values.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "This being set up as theatrics seems pretty far fetched. The margin for error is far too wide.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "It looked like the rounds where at least .223/556. They are certainly lethal.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "[deleted]", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Trump as a martyr wouldn’t have caused disunity. It would have caused riots and probably civil war as tensions escalated", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "The SC is not “undemocratically” appointed, and Trump never attempted a coup, but keep telling yourself these stories…", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "exactly- Who is surprised at this point? Really truly?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I don't know the laws in that particular place but several parts of the USA allow open carry of assault weapons made to kill many people quickly, legally.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Mostly in parts that are heavily in support of Trump so the irony would be huge if this rally location was one of those with such laws.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "If the shooter was legally allowed to carry his gun openly, there mightn't have been anything police could do.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "US political discourse is bad enough without Australians acting like a bunch of people walking into a government building and milling around is \"storming\" anything.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Not to mention his carpet burnt knees from getting down for the NRA and weapons manufacturers.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "If he somehow loses the election, we'll see some very disturbing scenes.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I will agree with you that there are crazies across the spectrum.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I’m speaking moreso on the way average folks are exposing themselves online. It’s wild how ready folks are to say some of the most heinous things.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "It shits me that those who are in power don't care because they will be long gone before any of the real serious shit begins to happen.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Let the votes decide the importance of climate change", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I think it’s hard to align the “Trump is a threat to democracy” message, when you’re upset that he wasn’t killed.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "To me (at least), that’s a pretty big disconnect.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "That was all horsesh* t made up Twitter nonsense.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Someone took a nearly 10 year old story and tried to weave it into something new.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Taken from Vox. A super progressive/left wing site.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "[https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/3/13501364/trump-rape-13-year-old-lawsuit-katie-johnson-allegation](https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/3/13501364/trump-rape-13-year-old-lawsuit-katie-johnson-allegation)", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Be smarter dude. Don’t believe everything you see online.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I’m talking about the hundreds of thousands of “likes” posts get mocking the dead Trump supporter. Or the wishing Trump was dead. Or prattling on about “democracy is on the line” whilst simultaneously *joking* that someone else has to finish the job.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I mean… it’s really eye opening how the most (self declared) purist amongst us are also capable of such callousness.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "It’s amazing how close he came to being killed. Just thinking about the fact we could have all been here having a different conversation. Amazing how chances play out in real life.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Trump will win. People should read Project 2025 before voting tho.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "we already have a 4 year track record of trump being in office you doomer", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "How do you know it was a democrat supporter?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I personally wait for all the facts to come out first before speculating.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Well well well, looks like even THIS guy was a Republican...", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "One lunatic who might’ve been a Democrat shot at him, you can’t blame all Democrats for that", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "One crazy person isn’t representative of an entire party. I’d rather the democrats then any of the project 2025 bullshit that’s coming americas way if republicans win.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "They will find a way to pin it on the far right.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Looks like we will have this FOT as POTUS again . Not a fan of Trump but I really don't think he has much competition at the moment.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I honestly thought the radical left wing useful idiots would try to assassinate biden, so they can actually win the election.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "However they basically helped Trump. I guess that's why they call them useful idiots.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Well if that's the criteria I don't see how you could ever justify voting Republican.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Except it isn’t.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "So I don’t lije someone’s opinion. It’s okay to shoot them?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Interesting take…. Disturbing.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "[deleted]", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "No it is not", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Not in the context of a democratic process though.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Please observe reddit site rules:", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "- Don’t Spam", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "- No personal and/or confidential information", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "- No threatening, harassing or inciting violence", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "- No hate based on identity or vulnerability", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "- No calling out of other subreddits or users", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "As a reminder, here are the site rules:", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "https://www.redditinc.com/policies/content-policy", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "No he didn’t. They tried but he lived to 93 years old", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Reagan", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Sigh", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Not even gonna bother", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Do some research", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "What do you mean by this?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Are you saying the Trump attempt was staged?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "If your whole argument is based upon this then it’s not a very strong one is it.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "There’s a dead person and several in critical condition and a presidential candidate was grazed by a bullet.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I saw the photos and footage distantly showing the blood all over the seating area.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Trump is anti-war. If you don’t agree with this then your entitled to your own opinion but you should seriously look past your biases.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Don't forget Biden just last week saying Trump needed to go in a bullseye...", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "> You are just projecting your bad opinion of Trump onto theoretical circumstances to cast Trump in a bad light.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump%27s_comments_on_John_McCain", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Shit Trump said about someone *in his own party.*", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "No but don't let the truth get in the way of a good bullshit story", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I have seen other left wing people get violent when they believe injustice involving racism, sexism, bigotry etc has taken place.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I could easily see more left wing people getting violent if normal people were allowed to express themselves by being racist, sexist etc without concern about the comments making left wing people hysterical.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "A republican that donates to left wing groups like Act Blue.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Source? I would not at all be surprised by that", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "?? You're not making any sense.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Also energy bill relief and tax cuts started this month.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Doubt for many reasons", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "[deleted]", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Just like Don when he got his draft card.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Yup. I honestly feel like we’re maybe two inches away most days. If Trump loses again, I’m afraid of what Jan 6-esque stunt will be pulled after 4 years of stewing in anger since the last loss.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Not sure, hasn’t been 50 years since 9/11.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Wars might be started by the rich. Revolutions though…", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Turning into?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "[deleted]", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "tl;dr: Americans care more about image than literally anything else.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "He knew immediately he had to capitalize on this.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "People dismiss him as a moron while true. He is also insanely intelligent in other areas. Like taking advantage of situations to get what he wants.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "And he executed it flawlessly. He knew he had to get a shot like that while the cameras were rolling. he knew it would win him the election.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "[deleted]", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Anyone would think it was planned.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "some polls says he got and extra 7-9% boost in the polls", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "If Americans vote for an image then they deserve what they get, but unfortunately it's the world that will shoulder the fallout if Trump gets elected.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Almost too perfect....as if it was....all....planned? Nah", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Why would they vote for him. Nothings changed he is still a rapist pedo and a convicted felon who wants to take woman’s rights to their own bodies away. Still a scum bag. Only his brain dead followers will vote for him.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "https://x.com/AlanDukeNews/status/1812348548295577851", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Considering the perpetrator was a registered Republican, I somehow doubt they'll be capitalizing on this as much as you're hoping.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Wouldn't be surprised if it was some far right dude pissed off that Trump supports Israel.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": ">He was probably already going to win,", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Biden's been putin in work too, tbf.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "that fist bump is one of those once in a generation images. seriously, living history was just made", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Biden looked like a lost old man during his press conference. He waddled off the stage like he had no idea where he was or what he was doing. He’s finished.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Dems will replace Biden with Kamala though she is hopeless too.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Biden was finished before this.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "It sure shows grit, most would cower behind security", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "He fist pumped after you could hear the secret service yelling the shooter was down. So it was easy and safe enough for him to do so.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Considering alot of the issues people have with Trump seem to be the people he has rallying around him (like the Heritage Foundation with their Project 2025), I'm not sure voters will be willing to just forget all that. But who knows", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I doubt it cements anything tbh. He survived. He is still a liar, a pedo, a rapist, likely a murderer, a facist.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Biden is not in great shape and should step down in the coming weeks when they get someone with balls to call trump out for what he is. Its a pretty easy win from there.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "except it looks like it was one of his own.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "If Biden doesn't drop out it's pretty much decided.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Where is your evidence of that? Made it up?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Man, the cookers are out in force today with their wild conspiracy theories", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "The left are the violent ones. Look at their riots and massive destruction to property when Trump won in 2016. Look at the violent ANTIFA destruction and looting that has occurred many times over the last several years.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "The left are mostly the violent idiots, in case you haven't noticed that by now.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "That if he had hit Trump, it would have eliminated him from the election. If that was the shooters aim, he'd have accomplished the desired result. But by missing he's likely achieved the opposite.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I don't think assassinating your opponent is the smartest strategy generally, but I have to say I'd have personally been happy if he hadn't missed. Fuck Trump and every single one of his supporters.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "That the shooter may have potentially accomplished what they set out to do.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Not that it was fine to shoot drumpf.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "It literally is. The president does not have to win a majority of votes to take office, and he appoints the justices. The justices are then approved by the Senate, which is by design an undemocratic institution.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "One of the most dangerous professions - 1/10 presidents have been shot or shot at.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Yeah it's an issue with the system we have. Democracies all run on 3-5 year terms. But something as long term as climate just sits beyond the scope of any government to act on meaningfully.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "But the alternative of decade long government's is terrifying.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "They have. It's why we've done almost nothing. And it's why we will continue to do almost nothing.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Yes? And? Nobody here mentioned being upset he wasn’t killed except you.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "So true! Best part was seeing the SS getting exasperated by wanting to cover his face/head when they went to move him, but he told them not to- that and the shorter people trying valiantly to shield him, like good luck if someone was going to try another shot. The dude's nuts, but didn't deserve that. What gets me is not caring about harming other people, bad enough to hate your target but to have the callousness to not care about anyone else? Kids etc? My heart breaks for those people literally caught in the crossfire.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Political assassinations are insane- I like how our politicians can move more freely here, I hope it never changes. I saw a NSW Premier in Myer years ago, saw his bodyguards and he was asking us for ideas for one his son's birthday presents. Not a fan of the guy but that was amazing to see that interaction. I remember thinking how easy it would be for a psycho to take advantage of it (seen way too many movies).", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "They really should.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I'm an American living in Australia. Had a conversation with my father (he will be voting for Trump) about Republican ambitions to scale back VA benefits, specifically restricting retirees with a pension to only a pension or VA disability payments; not both.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "We're both Vets, too, and I laid it out clearly for him that the party you want residing in the Executive branch wants to take away what you slaved for over the past 30 years. Despite this, he's convinced the VA has been worse under the current administration and will happily vote Red.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "It's fucking insane how people will consistently vote against their own interests.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "EDIT: Lol why the fuck am I getting down votes for saying this", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Yes, some very worrying stuff. They had finally started talking about it the last couple of weeks as well. I’m not sure much any of that matters now though. Hard to see his second term being as ineffective as his first.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Is this something that the Trump campaign has discussed though? I haven't followed their election at all and all I have seen of the discussion is just \"they're old.\" Which in terms of a political discourse is pathetic.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I genuinely couldn't tell you what either of them intend to achieve in office. All the news talks about is Biden being old and the future of Earth being at stake. But there's no real detail as to how this happens.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I don't like Trump I think he's a pest, a sexual predator and little more than a grifter. But in terms of what another presidency will look like? Probably just more tax cuts and loopholes for rich people. And continued attempts to undermine environmental policy.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Tldr: American culture and political discourse is Dog shit. Trumps a cunt but the man isn't going to actively start WW3.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Yikes.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "exactly - while the most likely possibility, there was the guy who just wanted to impress Jodie Foster a few years back. So you just never know.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "He said he hates Rpeublicans", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "No, but people will. No differently than when they blame all Republicans for the fuckups of one Republican.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Do you find it surprising they didn’t pool resources and liquidate all of Pennsylvania’s useless radical right-wing idiots, while they were congregating in the same cornfield?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Why do you say that?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "It's not about opinion. If someone was going to be elected into power and was promising to institute policies that would directly lead to rampant decline and death in your own personal life, how is that no different from someone attempting to shoot you? Difference is just a layer of bureaucracy and time.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "[removed]", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "> My God, you leftists really are deranged.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "The fuck? I see you're unfamiliar with long time right-winger Ziggler.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "The deliberate deception is just out of this world.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "[deleted]", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "lmao @ implying Ziggler is remotely left-leaning", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Haha have you checked that guys posts?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Gun loving is a right wing trait, and they don’t want them to just sit there on the mantelpiece.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "He had an [assassination attempt](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_presidential_assassination_attempts_and_plots) that left him in hospital", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Haha, yes indeed, good correction. An attempted whack. Just pointing out it is not exclusively anti war presidents that cop bullets.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Nah, I was talking about the little kid in The Exorcist. Wrong thread?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I have. You should do yours. Trump himself is very clear on this.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Regardless a true anti war President would give Ukraine the tools to deliver peace through victory.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Do YoUR Own RESsearCH.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I don't care. Do you care?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "1. There’s nutters on both sides that do violent things", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "2. It’s not normal to be racist and sexist", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Years before he registered as a republican. It’s looking like the Epstein files releasing made him “wake up”. Shame it hasn’t made you realise though that he’s just a pedophile rapist.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "To be fair neither are you.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Why is this downvoted?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Oh sweet $300 extra toward my energy bill!", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Oh that's odd, my bill went up by $250...", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "[deleted]", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "How the fuck is someone saying \"shrapnel not a bullet\" an indication of anyone's voting position.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Jesus, you added 2 and 2 and found a reason to shoehorn political identity into it.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "[deleted]", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "[deleted]", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "It's closer to 50 years than 9/11", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "No chance. We're all too conditioned and lazy now", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Yeah less seppo comments would be great imo.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Actually I think his reaction was instinctive rather than contrived.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "He's been training for this all night.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "He's certainly not a moron. He's an expert manipulator", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "People love shitting on his intelligence but he was genuinely a very good businessman and his manipulation and speaking skills are top tier. Amazing at blaming others and deflecting blame from himself especially.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "He also was a great comedian, people used to love him before he entered politics and we got to see what he’s really like.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I think you forgot the /s", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "How is it going to be worse? We are almost in ww3 and the closest we have ever been to nuclear war. Trump is antiwar and will put a stop to it.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Many of them care more for the theatrics than the policies.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "[deleted]", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "The fallout!!!", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Dont you realise what is happening in the world right now!!", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "No wars under Trump & financially everything was fine.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Under Biden , there is war & no one has any money!!", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "How could it be planned. The shooter was on the right side of Trump and Trump got shot in the right ear.... not the right side of his head.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Careful downvotes galore for this kind of talk", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "So glad he wants to give back rights to living children in the womb.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "> hoping", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Very weird assumption. Thanks for the update though, appreciate the information.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Or a left winger who registered republican to swing the primarys", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Trump looks like a rambling fool, doesn't do him any harm.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "The Bookmakers give almost par odds Biden will be gone by this months end, Bookies rarely get thing wrong", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Possibly but they know they are done now. While i don't like trump like many others. I can still see he has won the election from this one act.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "You have to convince people of that. Conspiracy theories will be going wild.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Have you not seen Biden? I don't think a guy who called zelensky putin and trump vice president has much advantage at all in any poll", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Polls, betting odds", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "All constitutionally allowed in their republican country, so no, not undemocratic…But knock yourself out, buddy.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "True, although being a school teacher in the US surely rates up there too.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "[The alternative isn't adjusting term limits.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sortition)", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "If you’re claiming nobody is upset he wasn’t killed… then you’re either disingenuous or a liar.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Huge swathes of folks are. Get a clue mate.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Before Albo was PM, but still a senior minister, he was stuck behind my wife and I at the grocery store. We were piss-farting around, organising the bags in our trolley and he was trying to get past.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Spotted him out of the corner of my eye and he had a \"FFS\" expression on his face, so we moved out of the way, as he went past I thought \"bloody hell, that looks a lot like Albo\". And it was.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": ">It's fucking insane how people will consistently vote against their own interests.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Oh boy wait until you talk to the average Australian voter about who they are voting for and why.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I fully support people like you who actually have reasoned debates/arguments with people over policies. It has never made sense to me that people vote for parties/candidates that are harmful to their own interests. I have respect for people who have different voting opinions but actually understand who they're voting for and why, compared to those who just blindly vote because they're a fan of whoever- it's dumb.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "The Democrats are not helping the situation. Biden has been consistently fucking up and they continue to push on as if they know better. He’s literally minutes away from a nursing home admission and is pretending everything is ok.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "This is the problem with both the left and the right they think they know better.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "It’s sad.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Poor people in Australia voting Liberal Party also vote against their own interests.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": ">Lol why the fuck am I getting down votes for saying this", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Because you're saying someone is pro-Trump with a level of education in the subject that the drones here cant comprehend.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Much like Bidens voter base, there's not a single shred of critical thought. People just react because Orange Man Bad.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "[deleted]", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Yeah he didn’t enact most of his promises so hopefully it’s all talk again.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "If trump wins? Almost nothing will happen. If Republicans control both houses of congress? You can expect over 60% of project 2025 being implemented. Reagan literally achieved that in only his first couple of years.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "The Republican platform is very clear in what it wants to achieve. Roll back regulations, raise taxes on the poor and cut them for the rich, roll back all social programs, eliminate all environmental protections, etc. And their major donors have released a document, called \"Project 2025,\" outlining exactly what they aim to do with a Trump presidency. It is massive but some highlights are that they aim to remove rights for LGBT people, ban contraception and abortion, remove public education, give the president absolute power, and all sorts of other insane nonsense.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Republicans cut taxes for the ultra wealthy.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Fuck them.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "[deleted]", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Haven't seen a source for that yet", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "The term 'useful idiots' refers to people that do something radical like rioting ect.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "It doesn't refer to people that just support Trump.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Plots against Obama, plots against Democratic governors, January", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "6th where  Republicans attempted to kidnap and execute members of Congress and the Vice President... I mean... You don't remember any of that?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I protest about your opinion. So I can either respect your views and get on with life. Or commit violence against you. Interesting take on life.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Please observe reddit site rules:", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "- Don’t Spam", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "- No personal and/or confidential information", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "- No threatening, harassing or inciting violence", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "- No hate based on identity or vulnerability", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "- No calling out of other subreddits or users", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "As a reminder, here are the site rules:", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "https://www.redditinc.com/policies/content-policy", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "[removed]", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "[deleted]", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Said attempt was not politically motivated. Attacker just had a lot of.... erotic issues.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Do some research.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Everyone knows Ukraine cannot win this war with force.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Trump has said repeatedly that he wants to end the war as quickly as possible. To stop the death.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Russia can continue for a whole lot longer than Ukraine can.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Also, you just said an anti-war president would encourage war…..?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "NATO’s continued encroachment towards Russia was one of the main factors that started the war. They had promised not to go near Russia, and they have continued over and over again to break that promise.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I’m not justifying Putin’s actions; but democrats seem to be absolutely abysmal with regards to international relations. They don’t understand that other countries don’t think or want to be like us and share our values.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Great rebuttal mate ", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "> I don't care.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "About your own argument? Okay, cool I guess...", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "He specifically donated to the Progressive Turnout Project so he was a part of the progressive left wing death cult.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/14/us/politics/trump-gunman-thomas-crooks.html", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Username checks out", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Because it isn't taking effect eight away, which causes the perception it does nothing. With the right budgeting, the extra money can provide some relief.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "What? So you want it going up by $550 instead..?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Meh", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "[deleted]", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Oh I offered to join adf but got knocked back for haemochromotosis, but I at least volunteer in my local cfa, I’m also the captain of the brigade.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "What about you buddy? Do anything for your community?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Today maybe.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Two years from now might be different. Desperation tends to be a wonderful motivator.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "https://www.csis.org/analysis/dangerously-hungry-link-between-food-insecurity-and-conflict", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "You mean to broke and working to achieve anything we don't see much good come out of countries with political unrest", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I follow a few of the subs for the conservative US states and the majority of “seppos” seem far more left than most on this sub.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "instinctive or contrived, he still knew he had to look brave.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Which he did. People are going to vote like crazy for a president who doesn't go down like that.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Irrelevant. Both lead to the same result for this one.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I was watching that Netflix series on the bomb. There was an episode about the McCarthy era and how he was a populist etc very dangerous and divisive. Well his second in command was also employed by trump Snr for Donald at an early stage in his career.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "[deleted]", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Putin said he is ready for Trump to broker a peace deal, I think the world needs Trump more than ever", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Trump will put a stop to it? You mean become isolationist and reneg on his treaties and leave other countries in the lurch, he has already stated that he admires Putin and would drop Ukraine in a heartbeat. He's a coward, not anti-war there's a difference.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "[deleted]", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I did hear he donated to a democrat party when he was younger or something?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Its being reported from multiple news sources.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "And polls showed Hillary Clinton would win too.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "So made it up I see. There are no polls that consistently put Trump ahead outside their error margin.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Sure but that doesn't mean it's a functioning democratic system. Looking at it currently it certainly seems to be failing hard, champ", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "School student also. Glad my kids don't go to school there.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Yeah I don't know", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Where do you get people with relevant qualifications?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "You said:", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "> when you’re upset that he wasn’t killed", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Not that:", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "> nobody is upset he wasn’t killed", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Why be deliberately deceptive?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Are you afraid actual rational responses would be too difficult?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "We could be the most politically oblivious country in the west. In high school when I finished only a few years ago many people in my grade didn’t know who the prime minister even was until the pandemic. Forget talking about policy.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I don't disagree. The Democrats are feckless, and anytime they have momentum, they piss it away. I believe it to be a combination of hubris and incompetence.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "It really is.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I've only been here a few months, so I'm not as well-versed in Australian Politics as I'd like to be.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "What's the deal with the Liberal Party? Are they Neo-liberals, or the equivalent of American Conservatives?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Not really, when labour planned to remove the CGT discount i voted against them. Because that would increase the taxes i would pay in the long run", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "People are morons. They probably latched onto the \"voting Trump\" and automatically downvoted", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "He seems to be pretty aware of what held him back last time. Planning to fill his cabinet with sycophants this time instead of establishment politicians. Has talked opening about retribution against political opponents. Worried about how he would act around Ukraine as well. It’s going to all be such a mess. Glad we are on the other side of the world, but will be a big impact for everyone.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "He tried to stop the signing in with a mob (which is an attempted coup despite its bad organisation) and was screaming about how the the election was fraudulent. With the supreme courts determination about what the president can do legally, if he stays for a third term or not seems like it is just down to his fragile ego or if he gets bored of being president.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Yeah but that's my point. This is where political discourse is at. You've painted the republican platform in broad strokes. Small government, we all know that.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Where is the policy though? Hidden in some oddball document that's not officially endorsed by the candidate I would assume. It's just insane to me. That's why when I watch the news all I'll see is talk about Biden being old or Trump being crazy. It's weak as piss and only entrenches the brain rot.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I just read it. That was my reaction.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "https://youtube.com/shorts/q0tBodQ0It8?si=abwcDbQuScgPHo5T", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Only when you use the term ", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "And you don't blame the Republican Party for those?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Your comment has been queued for review because you used a keyword which may breach the subreddit rules.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "*I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/australian) if you have any questions or concerns.*", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Do you have a point to make or just a meaningless comment?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": ">Everyone knows Ukraine cannot win this war with force.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "This is a Russian narrative proven false by the multiple defeats Russia has already suffered and the fact that its economy is a tiny fraction of the west's economy.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": ">Also, you just said an anti-war president would encourage war…..?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Victory over Russia is guarantees an end to the war. Anything less is just a pause before they resume.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "The rest of your post is just more Russian narratives that have all been proven false.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "What are all the insurrectionists to you then? Do you label them as the right wing death cult? You know the ones that Trump asked to storm the capitol building?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Who is deliberately lying here?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Jesus, get off Trump's dick mate, it's really fucking weird as an aussie", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Or in Au affordable housing", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Yes, this sub is the right wing Australia sub so that's not surprising.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "True", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "There's nothing wrong with not supporting the Ukraine war. The US should have not had anything to do with it. As we know now the CIA toppled the elected president and put there puppet in there. And then they proceeded to kill 1000s of Russians. If you support that war you are just evil like your govt. And as for Israel genociding huge amounts of women and children. I bet your proud of that too.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Nothing cowardly about wanting to stop that.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "You're a fool if you think that whatever happens in America doesn't have ramifications for the rest of the world. Throw a stone into the middle of a pond and the ripples will reach every shore.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "[deleted]", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Reported is a start. Believed is another. It will be interesting to see where things go from here.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Australians will mostly accept the lone gunman IMO, but I bet a large number of Americans don’t.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Except being registered as a Republican literally means nothing. It's very common for dems to register Republican in states that require party registration to be able to vote in primaries (like Pennsylvania) so they can meddle in it.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Seethe harder.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "[https://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting/politics/us-politics/us-presidential-election-2024-5479667](https://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting/politics/us-politics/us-presidential-election-2024-5479667)", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I'm hoping that Trump isn't going to get in, but the bookies are a good barometer at these early stages.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Democracy isn’t, the loopholes like in any other one, perhaps… But the political persecution of Trump is the main issue, and that’s from a DOJ that’s controlled by the President. But again, nothing undemocratic like you try to push in your pseudo-intellectual rant.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "absolutely!", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "From a pool of anyone available with relative qualifications, also chosen randomly.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Mate. “You’re” in this context is collective and general.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Obviously. ", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "You need to visit more countries in the west.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": ">What's the deal with the Liberal Party? Are they Neo-liberals, or the equivalent of American Conservatives?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "They're like G W Bush era conservatives IMO, they're to the right for sure but 90% of them are not insane nutjobs like the Republicans are now.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "This is really tricky as American politics is much further right.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Liberal national party is for neo-liberal economic policy's. And small government. But have a lot of conservative white Christian esque views. While wanting to be more like the modern Republicans. Especially over lockdowns we saw them play similar favouritism games. And play the short cycle headlines like trump does.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Also wouldn't form government if it wasn't for the 'coalition' with the national party. Can't quite get these guys, say they are the farmers party. But regularly vote against measures designed to specifically help farmers.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Labor was 'for the workers' a long time ago. Still have union alignment but it's more for cronyism than the greater good. Most policy's are neo-liberal. And their communication is typically terrible so always manage to botch up important topics due to them not being able to communicate.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Still have the odd sprinkling of socialist values (medicare, NDIS) but only just enough to be called mostly centre right.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Greens are the 'left' party. Get enough votes to be annoying for the bigger players, but only enough to be annoying, not to make any real change.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Pauline and a couple of others are typically the more traditional right wing players that often leave this sub arguing if it was racism or her right to free speech cause it's truth.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "The Liberals are named for economic liberalism (=deregulation, in a nutshell). They're a bog-standard conservative party, but they've been watching GOP tactics and trying to re-use them here. It works to some degree, but it also backfires on them. They have no imagination and couldn't organise a root in a brothel - their primary tactic is 'blame the other guy'... but it works quite well for them. The GOP does this as well, but the Liberals here did it long before they started copying the GOP's playbook.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Labor is named for the trades unions that back them. The 'u' is dropped from the usually British spelling here because back in the day they wanted to be clearer that it was separate from the UK party. They've lost their soul a bit because tradies used to rub shoulders with the working poor, so their policies traditionally helped the public in general. Tradies have a lot more money these days, so Labor has become more centrist than left-wing.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "The Greens you can probably guess. Single-issue party that grew quite popular, and now fight a lot of social issues. They're massively underrepresented in the lower house for the votes they get, because of the way selection works.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "The Teals are a bunch of independent conservatives that took Liberal votes because the Liberals went hard on climate change denial. Teal = green environmentalism + Liberal's blue colour. This is where following the GOP playbook backfired.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "The National Party were once the Country party (= rural conservative party), which led to possibly the greatest political quip of all time: Winston Turnbull shouted proudly in parliament: \"I'm a Country member!\" to which Gough Whitlam replied: \"I remember\" (works much better spoken than in text). The Nationals are in a long-term coalition with the Liberals and in most states do not contest the same seats.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Then there's a bunch of minor parties, splinter parties, single-issue parties, and independents. There's usually a handful of them in the upper house and none in the lower house, because of the way the selection works for each.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Yes they are corporate owned party. Equivalent to your republican party.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Same right wing neoliberalism.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "They pretend to be conservatives because that is the easiest demographic to manipualte with scare mongering. They are self-serving demagogues bought and paid for by big business whose every utterance and action is chosen on the basis of \"is it good for the Liberal Party?\", not is it good for Australia.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Not many poor people get CGT discounts lol", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "lol thats because you're greedy.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "You don't deserve a CGT discount. You only voted against them at the detriment of poor people who have to pay for your CGT Discount.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": ">Worried about how he would act around Ukraine as well.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "He met privately recently with Viktor Orban who has met privately with Putin.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Getting some instructions via a third party", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I didn't paint it in broad strokes, I've read their actual official platform. It's lengthy but light on details [2024 Republican Party Platform | The American Presidency Project (ucsb.edu)](https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/2024-republican-party-platform). This again is the official party platform.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "There is also Project 2025 ([Project 2025 | Presidential Transition Project](https://www.project2025.org/)) which is a massive document put together by the Heritage Foundation, a major conservative donor group which has funded the Republican Party for decades. It outlines exactly what policies they are aiming for. Trump administration and Trump campaign officials are directly involved in Project 2025.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Both of these have been extensively reported on for quite a while. They are far from hidden oddball documents. Find better news sources if the ones you've been reading are leaving you uninformed.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I was under the impression he was dead. Are you sure that's actually him?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "You may be misunderstanding me", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "These aren’t ‘Russian narratives’….haha I have just come to my own conclusions by looking at the scenario.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "The west may have a financial upper-hand; but Russia has waaaaaay more people than Ukraine.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "They may be a little less advanced with regards to some weaponry and training, but there is just too many of them.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "This is classic Russia warfare. They have defeated several of the most formidable forces in history with this overwhelming size and population.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I don’t believe Russia can be beaten without NATO troops being deployed. And deploying these troops risks a WW3 or nuclear war.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Fascinating how the supposed right wingers are now anti-war. Everything has just flipped.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "[removed]", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "You realise that you’re also assuming their political position from one or two comments yeah? Thought you were against shoe horning political identity into everything?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Not just right wing. You need to be a very specific type of greens voter or silent to stay on the other one.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I'm not for supporting any war (I was a soldier for 17 years and have been to war) but America has chosen to support Ukraine along with most of the western world and to pull out after so much sacrifice time and money would be unforgivable. Putin is a madman, but he's a clever madman, whereas Trump is just a narcissistic lunatic. Once you've committed to a fight you don't stop until you've won or you've lost you dont run away half way through.As for supporting Israel, you're barking up the wrong tree there. My Son in law is Palestinian and my wife and I are very close to his extended family. I believe that Palestine has the right to self determination and to be able to live in peace, just as Ukraine does.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Right but in that case I think your disregarding how underpaid politicians are really for what their job entails. There's not too many CEO level executives in charge of billion dollar platforms only getting paid half a million dollars annually.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Ah, so you're bringing up an unrelated hypothetical for propaganda purposes. Guess that clears things up.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Are you afraid actual rational responses would be too difficult?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "?? It very obviously isn’t. Stop arguing with the voices in your head and come back to reality.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "USA I’m a citizen of as well and been 20+ times", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Canada 5x", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "UK 3x", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Ireland 5x", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "France 2x", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Iceland", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Norway", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Sweden", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Germany 2x", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Italy", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "New Zealand 3x", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Greece", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Cyprus", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Spain", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Forgetting a couple but 🤷 where else do I need to go", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": ">And their communication is typically terrible so always manage to botch up important topics due to them not being able to communicate.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "It's not that the ALP's communication is terrible, it's that the main media outlets have been captured by the conservatives. It's much harder to get your message out when the media is doing hatchet jobs on you and handling your opponents with kid gloves", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Can you explain the 'white Christian esq' part?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Sure if they want to remain poor and increase their wealth only by getting a salary.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "It's kind of why super exists, to force even poor people to invest.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "What do you think voting in your own interests means?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I guess if you're a collectivist \"your own\" means something else", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Yeah, I sold you a bit short there. It's pretty typical of political parties these days to have no genuine policy. And I have heard project 2025 talked about often enough. But I haven't bothered to read too deeply into any of it because I'm not American so It's not really my job to be properly informed.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "But I think we can agree the current level of political discourse everywhere is just lacking. It's all about personal attacks and rambling broader ideas. But no one ever brings a cohesive policy plan to office.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Again I don't think project 2025 entirely counts because it's a policy platform put forward by a think-tank not a party.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Lmao, that actually isn't him. Thanks for prompting me to look into it more. Damn misinformation", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I do not believe you are posting Russian narratives by coincidence, and it is very clear you have not done your research.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "You cite people twice. Yet we have charts of the sign on bonus for Russian soldiers showing it skyrocketing. We know how much factory workers are getting paid, it's skyrocketing. We know they are short 40,000 people in the oil industry. We know they are sending injured soldiers into battle. Ukraine's got its own manpower issues, but because we can do our research we know that they're taking vastly less drastic measures. This Russian narrative that they have endless people is demonstrably false.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Similarly for your \"They have defeated several of the most formidable forces in history with this overwhelming size and population\" claim. Now, Russia's existed long enough to make this extremely vague, but if referencing WWI or WWII is objectively false. In the latter Russia won in large part through tactics and the vast supplies it got from the allies. This russian narrative that victory is inevitable is demonstrably false.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Again. Trump is not anti-war. He is pro-Russia. This is documented reality.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Everything you said is false to the point where you cannot possibly be genuine.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "\"leftists\"", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Yeah, try again", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Wow you served in the military and you will just blindly follow our govt? I'm sorry for you. I guess that's how they brainwash soldiers. I got no problem defending Australia. but Vietnam was wrong. Iraq was wrong. Afghanistan was wrong. and Ukraine is wrong. All those wars were because of US lies. I have nothing but respect for Australian soldiers who lost their lives. But we have all been mislead. To follow a war and continue it without critical thinking is wrong. The US is totally controlled by Israel. Who do think has the most to gain by all of us hating Muslims?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Ukraine was a disaster from day one. The US planned it to fund the military industrial complex. There is no way on earth ukraine will ever beat Russia. It's all over bar the shouting. Ukraine has no", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "more soldiers. Over 500k killed and 1 mill injured. The Russians are just taking it slowly to stop civilian losses. And NATO doesn't stand a chance against them if it came down to it. Russia and China have hypersonic missiles the west has no defence against.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "If I want someone qualified to write economic and tax policy, I wouldn't look for a CEO anyway... If anything, I'd want CEOs turning down the job because it pays too little, if they were selected by lot. Those who are well-off seeking political careers is indicative of the problem sortition solves.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Mate. Lay off. You’re being awfully aggro.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "If you’re not upset that Trump didn’t die (or posting awful things) then I’m not addressing you. Scroll on mate. You’re not helping.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Maybe I should have said \"examine the politics of\" instead of just \"visit\"", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Okay, so let's take the UK as an example. In the past 15 years they've scored some truly massive own-goals.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "* voted against a referendum to shed FPTP voting for a system that provides better representation", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "* voted in Brexit, never re-ran that referendum even years later when it was clear no-one knew what was going on", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "* kept voting in the Tories, who couldn't even define brexit, but promised a hard one anyway", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "These aren't minor \"issues of the day\", but are substantial long-term issues where there's an obvious answer with only a little bit of thought.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Voting to leave the EU while thinking they get to unilaterally keep EU membership benefits is about as oblivious as you can get.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Right up until the voice I believed this too.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Not saying the media isn't playing a huge part. Just that the ALP also can't cut through it too.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Google white Christian nationalism. It will explain the nuances far better than me.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Basically American Christianity is generally a whole different level of insanity- I say this a born and raised Roman Catholic so no hate, but from where most people view things as Christians, American Christians have the stereotype of being super religious yet ironically mean/cruel and UnChristian in the true meaning of the word.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "The Heritage Foundation is effectively a fundraising wing of the Republican Party, and several members of Trump's cabinet members are on its board and directly involved with Project 2025. It's just legally a separate entity to get around American election campaign regulations.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I know man, it's crazy. This is like the prime use case for online shit-stirring too.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "See I look at your statements and think the same thing about your lack of research.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Maybe we are reading different sources of information.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "I guess we will wait and see what happens in Ukraine!", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "To the original point; Trump is anti-war in comparison to the democrats. This isn’t debatable.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "That’s a huge reach. Leftist is a commonly used term as a differentiator from a moderate liberal.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "> If you’re not upset that Trump didn’t die", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "It's a weird things to say to someone at random.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Why are you trying to say that I'm upset? What purposes does this serve?", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Edit: blocked by VJ4rawr2.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Okay you got me there, the UK is worse. Well said. Especially the last part. I’d argue that we are less aware but make smarter choices, whereas they’re more aware but still make the worst choices.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Nothing I said is debatable. It is all documented fact.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Trump wants Ukraine to lose. This makes him pro-war and Pro Russia. If he was anti-war he'd see to it that Russia was defeated.", + "extra_info": "" + }, + { + "text": "Go ask OP his intentions then. I doubt I'm wrong.", + "extra_info": "" + } +] \ No newline at end of file