{"doc_id":"doc_0","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: Can I close this ?User Interface: Uh we don't have any changes , do we ?ProjectManager: Oh , okay .User Interface: So no . {vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound} There we go .Okay , here we are again . Detailed design {disfmarker} oh , come on . Well {disfmarker} Ah {gap} sForgot to insert the minutes , but it's about the same thing we discussed before . Uh {disfmarker} Couldopen that anyway , think . Other design {disfmarker} anyway , we took as {disfmarker} we took w wetook rubber as as the material last time . We also {gap} that you're just busy with it . Took the advancedchip to t uh implement the advanced features . Well , we discussed the design , no sharp corners , werounded it off , like you see on the {gap} other screen , which is fine . Um {gap} we agreed that thecolour should be b uh yellow and black . Yellow in the back because it's m trendy , more trendy thanblack anyway . So {vocalsound} then we ca yeah . We agreed that we would implement both the L_C_D_and speech recognition , but I'll get to that in a moment . 'Cause some changes in the finances have leftus implications anyway . So so , like I said , we had no insight in finances , no prices ,Marketing: Hmm.Project Manager: but we have 'em now , and it's bad . Anyway . We are Oh . Prototype presentation ,well first you guys built the prototype . So {vocalsound} you could {gap} {disfmarker} could presentthat . But um let's see what be handy to do . Nee {disfmarker} no , you just go ahead and present the{disfmarker} w we'll scrap it later because {disfmarker} {gap} What ?Industrial Designer: I think it'smore or less the same as we had .User Interface: It's basically what we agreed upon ,Marketing: Hmm?Project Manager: Oh that'sUser Interface: but just a little bit more specified .Industrial Designer: Nomuch sProject Manager: hasn't changed that much , huh ?Industrial Designer: No no no , not at all.Project Manager: I didn't expect anyway {gap} . You just coloured it . {vocalsound}User Interface: Uh sFinal design . {vocalsound} Basically in {gap} {disfmarker} what we discussed , cover and buttons willbe made of rubber , yellow colour , black components , as you can see right over here .Project Manager:Mm-hmm . I like the menu .User Interface: We chose a different type of colour for the menu . A bitdarker yellow so that it com really shows in this keypad .Project Manager: Mm-hmm .User Interface: Ifyou put them all black , it's not really that good a contrast .Project Manager: And I suppose the the theyellow is not printed on the on the rubber . It's it's part of the rubber , I suppose .User Interface: So{disfmarker} ProbabProject Manager: I think that's more I think that's more durable anyway than printedon to {disfmarker}User Interface: Yeah . That's the beIndustrial Designer: Hmm .User Interface: And it{disfmarker} I guess it's more easier to just paint it on the rubberIndustrial Designer: Yeah , of course.User Interface: than to uh {disfmarker}Industrial Designer: That's uh the integration story again.Marketing: Mm yeah . Okay .User Interface: So we have it's a bit round shaped ,Project Manager:{vocalsound} Oh yeah .User Interface: that's what we had uh {disfmarker} We chose the buttons to beuh teletext , okay button , favourite channel and the mute .Project Manager: Mm-hmm .User Interface:So that's basically what we chose there .Project Manager: Okay .User Interface: If you have anything toadd , please interrupt me .Industrial Designer: No , uh this is just a description of what we see there.Project Manager: Yeah .Industrial Designer: So {disfmarker}User Interface: {vocalsound} Oh .IndustrialDesigner: Speaks for itself .Marketing: Yeah .User Interface: That's pretty much it .Project Manager:{vocalsound} Okay . Now it's my time to ruin everything . Well , not ruin everything , but {disfmarker}no , nah .User Interface: Oh sorry . {vocalsound}Project Manager: Finances , that's what we have here ,what you drew . We have battery power , we have advanced chips and the sam the sensor . The samplesensor and uh {disfmarker} for speak recognition anyway . So which {disfmarker} you see the{disfmarker} which is de o one of the most expensive parts . So {disfmarker} well , we have sin onecurve , {vocalsound} a design . Rubber design . And we had a special colour . Suppose yellow is a specialcolour . So just half a Euro for {gap} {disfmarker} You have pushbuttons and an L_C_D_ display . Youhave the total of seventeen Euros in production cost ,Industrial Designer: Hmm .Project Manager: whichis higher than the twelve and a half that we are permitted to use . So ,Marketing: Hmm .Project Manager:easy . What do we scrap . Well think I had the best solution that I came up with is just to s take out thespeech recognition .Industrial Designer: I dUser Interface: I'd say that too .Industrial Designer: Yeah"} {"doc_id":"doc_1","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: Is that alright now ? {vocalsound} Okay . Sorry ? Okay , everybody all set to start themeeting ? Okay , we've got half an hour for this one um to uh discuss the um functional design.Marketing: Could you plug me in ?User Interface: {vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound} Okay . Thanks.Project Manager: All ready to go ? Okay .Marketing: Okay . {vocalsound}Project Manager: Um sohopefully you've all been working away , and I've put the minutes of the last meeting in the project folder. Um so I guess just to to recap on uh what we did last time . Um kind of uh got to know each other alittle bit and uh got familiar with all the equipment and started to discuss um a bit about the project , youknow , cost-wise how much how much money we had to s Um just want to tell you that you have threenew requirements , which is the {disfmarker} The first one {vocalsound} is that um uh the company'sdecided that teletext is outdated uh because of how popular the internet is . Nobody uses teletext verymuch anymore , so we don't really need to consider that in the functionality of the {disfmarker} of theremote control .Marketing: 'Kay .Project Manager: Um they've also suggested that we um we only usethe remote control to control the television , not the V_C_R_ , D_V_D_ or anything else . I think theworry is that if the project becomes too complex then it'll affect um how long it takes us to get it into intoproduction , the time to market . So um , we're just gonna keep it simple and it'll just control the T_V_.Marketing: Okay .Project Manager: And the other thing was that the company want the corporate colourand slogan to be implemented in the new design . Um I'm not entirely sure what the corporate colour is .It might be yellow , because there seems to be a lot of yellow everywhere .Marketing: And the slogan ,like the actual written slogan , or just to embody the idea of the slogan ?Project Manager: Well that's thething , I'm I'm not sure um {vocalsound} uh th because on the the company website , uh what does itsay {disfmarker} Uh something {disfmarker}Marketing: 'Bout putting the fashion in electronics.Industrial Designer: Mm yeah .Project Manager: Yeah , I mean do they {disfmarker} {vocalsound} Isthat something they want actually written on it , 'cause it's quite long . Um or yeah , just the idea , butI'm not sure . So that's something we can discuss as well . So those are the three things , just not toworry about teletext , uh only control the T_V_ , and um and uh incorporate the uh colour and slogan ofthe company . Um so is everybody okay with any of that , or do you want me to recap at all ?IndustrialDesigner: Nope , we're all set .Project Manager: Right um , time for presentations then . Who would liketo go first ?User Interface: {vocalsound} I'll go first .Project Manager: Okay , cool .Marketing: Sure .UserInterface: Alright um , can I st steal this from the back of your laptop ? Uh {disfmarker}Project Manager:Oh yeah , of course , yeah . G go on ahead .Marketing: {vocalsound}User Interface: {gap} so this is thetechnical functions design . Um {vocalsound} {disfmarker} Right {gap} to do the um {vocalsound} thedesign I have I've had a look online , I've had a look at the homepage , which has given us um some inspinspiration from previous products .Project Manager: Mm-hmm .User Interface: Um I've had a look at theprevious products to see what they offer and um I would like to ask you guys for um {vocalsound} yourideas about the design at the end of the meeting . Um unfortunately we're not allowed to talk outside themeeting room , so {disfmarker}Project Manager: {vocalsound} Okay .Marketing: Right .User Interface:Um , having a look at the existing products , I found out that um it tends to come in sort of two extremes, there's either um a very complicated one that's got lots of buttons , lots of colours , very confusing , youdon't know what you're doing . {vocalsound} Um in that case the the labelling tends to be very bad . Umthere's an example I'll show you at the end , um {gap} sh show you now . Uh {disfmarker}{vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound} Alright {gap} .User Interface: {gap} here um the buttonthere and there . This one's prog . Sorry . That one's perg and that one's prog , and it doesn't really tellyou what it does . Um , not sure if you had a a look at the other um control in that example . Um it's avery simple one . It's got only the basic functions mm but um {vocalsound} it's the same size as the thehard to use one .Project Manager: Oop .User Interface: {vocalsound} Uh it looked a bit clunky . They'revery big and not very much use for {gap} buttons . {vocalsound} Um , {vocalsound} and it's just veryhard to access the advanced functions . There's there's nothing for instance for a slow motion button .Um , my own preferences , I prefer the the clunky one . Um it's very easy to use . Um but unfortunately"} {"doc_id":"doc_2","qid":"","text":"Marketing: Hello .Project Manager: {gap} . {gap} .Marketing: Yes , I made it . English from now on{vocalsound} . {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} {gap} . {vocalsound}Marketing: Drawingor {disfmarker}Project Manager: Yeah just testing .Marketing: Yeah .Project Manager: Mm ? English.Industrial Designer: Just kidding .Project Manager: {gap} .Industrial Designer: So annoying .ProjectManager: Break is over .Marketing: Ooh it works .Project Manager: Whoo .Marketing: {vocalsound}Spicy .Project Manager: {vocalsound} Spicy .Marketing: Where are are all the other presentations?Industrial Designer: I just put it in the in the shared folder so it should be {disfmarker}Marketing: Theconceptual or {disfmarker}Industrial Designer: yeah I think so . Yeah , conceptual design . What orwhatever does it {disfmarker}Marketing: Ah . Because I see only my own presentation {vocalsound}{gap}User Interface: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: No no no , can you go back one ?Marketing: yeah.Industrial Designer: Uh 'cause it has to be PowerPoint pre yeah components design , that's it .Marketing:This ? {gap} I'll just put it in there .Project Manager: So , he's coming .Industrial Designer: {gap} .{vocalsound} I did get a bit more done than the last time ,Marketing: Or not .User Interface: Okay.Project Manager: Oh okay .Industrial Designer: 'cause I knew that I didn't have time so I just copy andpaste everything into the {disfmarker}User Interface: {vocalsound}Marketing: Ah ,Project Manager: Ah .She {gap} .Marketing: I can't cut and paste it into the other folder but {disfmarker}Project Manager: Youcan look at the final report , 'cause I have to record everything we are deciding and such , so I'm tryingto write it down between everything else .Marketing: Move to meeting room .Industrial Designer:{vocalsound} Sometimes I have these pop-ups or these sounds and there's nothing there ,Marketing:Yeah .Project Manager: Oh .Industrial Designer: and also with {disfmarker} I don't know how to usePowerPoint , so it takes me forever to get something done with it .Marketing: Yeah me too , {gap} .UserInterface: {vocalsound} I I've got the same problem as well . {vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound}{vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Yeah .Project Manager: Yeah.Marketing: Yeah .Project Manager: Here we go again . Welcome . Uh we have again three presentationsand then we have to decide on what concepts the mobile phone has to uh {disfmarker} f the remotecontrol has to support .Industrial Designer: ThiProject Manager: So who wants go .Industrial Designer:Mm-hmm .Marketing: Yes .Project Manager: Yes ?Industrial Designer: Who wants to start ?Marketing: Mefirst again or {disfmarker}Project Manager: Yeah sure . Doesn't matter .User Interface: Oh . No . Yeah .No problemMarketing: yeah . Alright . Did you open it already or {disfmarker}Project Manager: No.Marketing: no . Ah . Ah . Yes . So welcome to the marketing presentation once again . Um this timeabout trendwatching . {vocalsound} Uh well there has been inv investigation again , in the in the remotecontrol market . Uh it shows a number of developments . Uh I will address them uh in a moment . Umfashion watch watchers uh have detected the trends for young public , because that's our public . Um wellfruit and vegetables will be will be the most important theme for clothing , uh shoes and furniture . Andthe feel of the material is expected to be spongey . So um the developments I will address them{disfmarker}Project Manager: {vocalsound}Marketing: oh yeah well this is the fruit and vegetables looksof fresh bright colours . So to give you an idea . Um well the developments ? Uh development one .{vocalsound} Uh well most important aspect for remote control happens to be a fancy look-and-feel .Instead of the current uh functional look-and-feel . Um well fancy stands for an original look-and-feel ofthe case and the interface . And the second most important aspect is that a remote control should betechnological uh innovative . Um well it stands for the use of technical features that do not exist incurrent remote controls . I think we pretty much covered that with our screen and um and speechrecognition ,Industrial Designer: Sound . Yeah yeah uh uh .Marketing: so I don't expect that to be aproblem . And the third development um is that the remote control should be easy to use . Um{disfmarker} Well the first aspect uh was twice as important as the second aspect,w which was twice asimportant as the third aspect .Project Manager: Mm-hmm .Marketing: So um that kind of gets you thisratios . So fancy look-and-feel uh is the most important uh point of attention .Project Manager: {gap}.Marketing: Uh so the fruits and vegetables in combination with the spongey material . Um well technolog"} {"doc_id":"doc_3","qid":"","text":"Grad H: stGrad F: So we 're on .Grad H: Yeah . That 's better .Grad F: And , {comment} somewhere ismy agenda . I think the most important thing is Morgan wanted to talk about , uh , the ARPA {pause}demo .Professor D: Well , so , here 's the thing . Um , why don't we s again start off with {disfmarker}with , uh , Yeah , I 'll get it . I 'll get the door . Um , I think we want to start off with the agenda . Andthen , given that , uh , Liz and Andreas are gonna be {pause} ten , fifteen minutes late , we can try tofigure out what we can do most effectively without them here . So {disfmarker} {vocalsound} So{disfmarker} so , one thing is , yeah , talk about demo ,Grad F: OK . So , uh {disfmarker} uh , IBMtranscription status ,Professor D: IBM transcription . Uh , what else ?Grad F: Professor D: What 'sSmartKom ? SmartKom ?Grad F: Uh , we wanna talk about if w if we wanna add the data to the marMeeting Recorder corpus .PhD E: The data . The data which we are collecting here .Professor D: What{disfmarker} what {disfmarker} what are we collecting here ?PhD E: Data ?Grad F: So why don't wehave that on the agenda and we 'll {disfmarker} we 'll get to it and talk about it ?PhD E: The SmartKomdata ?Professor D: Yeah , right .PhD E: Yeah .Professor D: Uh , right . Uh .Grad F: Uh , reorganizationstatus .Professor D: Reorganization status .Postdoc A: Oh . Files and directories ?Professor D: Files anddirectories .Grad F: Yep . Uh - huh . Absinthe , which is the multiprocessor UNIX {disfmarker} Linux . Ithink it was {pause} Andreas wanted to talk about segmentation and recognition , and update on SRIrecognition experiments .Professor D: Um {disfmarker}Grad F: And then if ti if there 's time I wanted totalk about digits , but it looked like we were pretty full , so I can wait till next week .Professor D: Right .OK . Well , let 's see . I think the a certainly the segmentation and recognition we wanna maybe focus onwhen An - Andreas is here since that was particularly his thing .PhD E: And also the SmartKom thingshould bProfessor D: SmartKom also , Andreas . Absinthe , I think also he has sort of been involved in alot of those things .Grad F: At least ,Professor D: Yeah .Grad F: yeah , he 'll t he 'll probably be interested.Professor D: Yeah .Grad F: But .Professor D: Um So , I mean , I think they 'll be inter I 'll be interestedin all this , but {disfmarker} but , uh , probably , if we had to pick something {pause} that we would talkon for ten minutes or so while they 're coming here . Or I guess it would be , you think , reorganizationstatus , or {disfmarker} ?Grad F: Yeah . I mean , I think , Chuck was the one who added out the agendaitem . I don't really have anything to say other than that we still haven't done it .PhD B: Well , I mean , Iuh {disfmarker} {vocalsound} just basically that {disfmarker}Grad F: So .PhD B: maybe I said{disfmarker} maybe we said this before {disfmarker} just that we met and we talked about it and wesort of have a plan for getting things organized and {disfmarker}Postdoc A: And I {disfmarker} and Ithink a crucial part of that is the idea of {disfmarker} of not wanting to do it until right before the nextlevel zero back - up so that there won't be huge number of {disfmarker} of added ,PhD B: Right .PostdocA: uh {disfmarker}Grad F: Right .PhD B: That {disfmarker} that was basically it . Not {disfmarker} notmuch @ @ {disfmarker}Grad F: Although Dave basically said that if we wanna do it , just tell him and he'll do a d level zero then .Postdoc A: Yeah . Uh - huh . Oh , excellent .Grad F: So .Postdoc A: Oh , good.PhD B: Oh , so maybe we should just go ahead and get everything ready , and {disfmarker}Grad F: Yep. So , I think we do need to talk a little bit about {disfmarker} Well , we don't need to do it during thismeeting .PhD B: Yeah .Grad F: We have a little more to discuss . But , uh , we 're {disfmarker} we 'rebasically ready to do it . And , uh , I have some web pages on ts {comment} more of the background .So , naming conventions and things like that , that I 've been trying to keep actually up to date . So . AndI 've been sharing them with U - d UW folks also .Postdoc A: I 'm sorry , you 've been what ? Showingthem ?Professor D: OK .Postdoc A: Sharing them .Grad F: Sharing them with the UW folks .Postdoc A: OK. OK .Professor D: OK . Well , maybe uh , since that {disfmarker} that was a pretty short one , maybe weshould talk about the IBM transcription status . Someone can {vocalsound} fill in Liz and Andreas later .UhGrad F: OK . So , we , uh {disfmarker} we did another version of the beeps , where we separated eachbeeps with a spoken digit . Chuck came up here and recorded some di himself speaking some digits , andso it just goes \" beep one beep \" and then the phrase , and then \" beep two beep \" and then the phrase .And that seems pretty good . Um , I think they 'll have a b easier time keeping track of where they are in"} {"doc_id":"doc_4","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: Mm .Marketing: So ,Project Manager: So , uh now {vocalsound}Marketing: Hi Christa .{vocalsound}Project Manager: it's the {disfmarker} {vocalsound} Hi Sammy . {vocalsound} It's thedetail design meeting , so we're going {disfmarker} last meeting . So um , first uh Mark and Rama aregoing to present uh the prototype . Uh then uh Sammy will propose some uh crite cr criteria to evaluatethis prototype . Then , w we {disfmarker} {vocalsound}User Interface: {vocalsound} {vocalsound} Yes .{vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound} Yes . {vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound} And then wegoing to do some finance to see if uh it is uh feasibleUser Interface: And chocolate ? {vocalsound}ProjectManager: {vocalsound} and uh at the end we will we will um evaluate ourself as a team . {vocalsound}And that's all . Okay . So first , {vocalsound} let's uh see the prototype .Marketing: Mm .IndustrialDesigner: Yeah .Project Manager: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Uh , here we have our prototypemodel .Project Manager: Okay . And you have some slides then ?User Interface: Mm-hmm .IndustrialDesigner: Yeah . Yeah , we have also some slides .Project Manager: {gap} Yeah . Mm .User Interface:Yes , and place some slides .Project Manager: Okay . Uh so in which uh {disfmarker}User Interface: Uh ,participant three . {vocalsound} Prototype .Industrial Designer: In {disfmarker} Yeah .Project Manager:Mm okay . Mm .Industrial Designer: Five .Project Manager: {vocalsound}User Interface: {vocalsound}Uh , so this is our remote control .Industrial Designer: Him .Project Manager: {vocalsound}UserInterface: It's a r working prototype . You can use it now by switching all these buttons . So first , Ipresent as we came to this perfect model ,Project Manager: {vocalsound}User Interface: and then we'llgive some technical specifications .Marketing: Yeah .Project Manager: Mm-hmm .User Interface: That's{vocalsound} well {vocalsound} {vocalsound} , so that's that . Please , next slide . We analysed all thefruitsProject Manager: {vocalsound}User Interface: and contacted NASA , and uh made some{vocalsound} real good {disfmarker}Project Manager: MASA ? {vocalsound} {vocalsound} {vocalsound}{vocalsound} {vocalsound} {vocalsound}User Interface: Yeah . If you can see this , and the stars areshowing that {gap} . And um , {vocalsound} s society will accept that . For sure .Marketing: Mm-hmm.User Interface: {vocalsound} And making some analysis of different fruits , we choose the ultimate form, ultimate colours , and uh ultimate smell of it . S please , next slide . But we still didn't want to go farfrom our titanium idea , 'cause it's the most of the moder the m the {gap} modern material we can pselect . And it's practical . And it's still say it's for our needs , so please press something . And as I said ,{vocalsound} it's perfect . {vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound} Okay . {vocalsound}{vocalsound} {vocalsound}User Interface: {vocalsound} Please press it .Industrial Designer: Experience. ExplanatUser Interface: Everyone is {gap} f really uh really glad to obtain an {disfmarker}{vocalsound} s such a r such a device .Marketing: Such a nice thing . {vocalsound}Industrial Designer:See this {gap} . {vocalsound}User Interface: So you can touch it with your hands .Marketing: Can I?User Interface: Sure . Yes . {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: You can {disfmarker}Marketing: Ho-ho .{vocalsound} {vocalsound} {vocalsound} imitating flatulence] {vocalsound}Project Manager: What doyou say ? {vocalsound}User Interface: NMarketing: It says {vocalsound} {vocalsound}Project Manager:{vocalsound}User Interface: {vocalsound} You must say it .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Spongy.Marketing: I will uh {disfmarker}Project Manager: {vocalsound} One day .Marketing: I'll buy it .{vocalsound}User Interface: Yeah . {vocalsound}Marketing: If I if I need so . {vocalsound}ProjectManager: He {vocalsound} {vocalsound} {vocalsound} {vocalsound} {vocalsound}Marketing: Hopefullymy daughter will like it . {vocalsound}User Interface: Okay . Y and we got the answer . Uh , it is , yes , ofcourse .Marketing: Yes , of course . Of c course . {vocalsound}User Interface: {gap} , please next slide .Um , this is a prototype . You can have a look at it , and {disfmarker} That's all I wanted to say.Marketing: Ah .User Interface: Now it's technical specification by our colleague .Industrial Designer:Hmm .Project Manager: Hmm .Industrial Designer: So {disfmarker}Marketing: Oh , there is{vocalsound} a button missing .Project Manager: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Yeah .Marketing:{vocalsound} Okay . {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: This this is really flexible . You can add yourbuttons .Marketing: It's in option . {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yeah . So function ,"} {"doc_id":"doc_5","qid":"","text":"Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Marketing: Are you sure I got it all {disfmarker} head's kinda small.User Interface: How're we placed in terms of the {disfmarker}Marketing: Okay . {gap}User Interface:alright .Marketing: We're okay ?Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Guess I should probably try to sit upstraight .User Interface: {vocalsound}Project Manager: Like that ? Okay , cool .Marketing: We're good?Industrial Designer: Oh , I think mine's fallen off .User Interface: It fell {disfmarker} That's why.Marketing: I guess it's gonna be hard to drink coffee .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Marketing: Mm.User Interface: {vocalsound}Marketing: Uh okay .User Interface: Ah .Project Manager: Okay ?{vocalsound} Right , so I'm just gonna start this PowerPoint real quick . Yeah , PowerPoint .IndustrialDesigner: Wow .User Interface: {vocalsound}Marketing: Very official .Project Manager: Yeah , well , youknow , {vocalsound} {vocalsound} {vocalsound} {vocalsound} .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}UserInterface: {vocalsound}Project Manager: Yeah I kinda like this I'm kinda getting into it . Right . Um . Sojust to kick off the meeting basically um so we're working now for a real reaction , this is uh so it{vocalsound} right . Just got an agenda to set out what we're gonna try to accomplish in this particularfirst meeting . Um {vocalsound} We're gonna just do a quick opening and we can hopefully all getacquainted with one another um then we're gonna start {disfmarker} talk a little bit about tool training .Essentially that means getting used to the only thing that we haven't tried out yet , the whiteboard .{vocalsound} Um {vocalsound} we've got a general plan for the project how we're gonna go aboutaccomplishing this and then just a bit of discussion close up . Um I {gap} guess you know game orsomething um {vocalsound} in real life um so yeah basically I want to {disfmarker} I'm just gonna{disfmarker} you got {disfmarker} of course you can discuss that , I'm thinking about um {vocalsound}uh proposing that since we've got this weird blend of ourselves and our roles that we just don't ask ,don't tell . {vocalsound} Um so um if you say something about marketing , right , sorted , um{vocalsound} y isMarketing: {vocalsound} You're just gonna believe me ,Industrial Designer:{vocalsound}Marketing: we'll go from there .Project Manager: Exactly . Um I meanMarketing: Fairenough .Project Manager: obvi if if you guys {disfmarker} if if at the same time if you {disfmarker} likelogically if something doesn't {disfmarker} like if I'm like we're gonna sell a remote control that's the sizeof this paper book you know um you say like well that doesn't seem like such a good idea because of X_obviously go with it . I mean we'll discuss it but I'm not gonna ask do you know that or uh yeah it seemslikeMarketing: Prove itProject Manager: {vocalsound} yeah yeah exactlyMarketing: yeah , okay .ProjectManager: so , 'cause we're {disfmarker} what we're sort of role playing is y g yeah you're gonna tap intoyour own knowledge as well {vocalsound} um . And that's the same for your when we do introductions Imean um and you talk about your background you know have fun , you know maybe you went to um{vocalsound} uh you know maybe i you're like in Maine you went to U_C_S_B_ but you wanna say youwent to Harvard or something like that , why not , you knowIndustrial Designer: {vocalsound}Marketing:{vocalsound}Project Manager: you can {disfmarker} this is you know I guess we can have a little bit offun with it . So are you guys okay with that does that seem logical ?Industrial Designer: Oh yeah , that'sfine .User Interface: Sure .Marketing: Works for me .Project Manager: Sweet . Cool . So I guess that that{vocalsound} we're totally {disfmarker} we're making a remote control which is thrillingIndustrialDesigner: Right .Project Manager: um uh but the idea is that we can make something based on the wholecorporate model I dunno if you guys had time to check the {disfmarker} in real life I dunno if you guysuh {vocalsound} checked the um {vocalsound} uh the corporate website . Um we've got to makesomething as fashionable as possible , that's kind of the corporate strategy is we're gonna try to takeordinary stuff that nobody really thinks about and try to make it nice you know like John Lewis nice oryou know if you go to Debenham's or something . So um basically we are reinventing the wheel but wewanna try to do it in a user friendly um slick sleek kind of way . {vocalsound} Um way we're gonna goabout doing that is basically at first we're gonna start on the basics . And that's where I'm gonna needyou guys the User Interface Designers and the um {vocalsound} um the other designer that I can'tremember ,Marketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager: the the I_D_ and the U_I_D_ right um"} {"doc_id":"doc_6","qid":"","text":"The Chair (Hon. Anthony Rota (NipissingTimiskaming, Lib.)): We'll call this meeting to order. Welcome tothe fifth meeting of the House of Commons Special Committee on the COVID-19 Pandemic. Pursuant tothe order passed on Monday, April20, the committee is meeting today to consider ministerialannouncements, to allow members of the committee to present petitions, and to question ministers,including the Prime Minister, about the COVID-19 pandemic. Tomorrow, May8, Dr.AndreaMcCrady,Dominion Carillonneur, will give a special recital to mark the 75th anniversary of Victory in Europe Day.Victory in Europe Day, VE Day, commemorates the formal acceptance of Germany's surrender by alliedforces at the end of the Second World War. While the pandemic prevents us from gathering to celebratein person, tomorrow at noon the voice of our nation will ring out in remembrance of this milestone in ourhistory. Today's meeting is taking place by video conference. The proceedings will be made available viathe House of Commons website. Just so you are aware, the webcast will always show the personspeaking rather than the entire committee. I would like to remind members that, as in the House ofCommons or committee, they should not take photos of their colleagues or film the proceedings. In orderto facilitate the work of the interpreters and to allow the meeting to proceed smoothly, I would ask you tofollow some instructions. The video conference will be interpreted as in normal meetings of committeesand in the House. In the lower part of your screen, you can choose the language: floor, English or French.Please wait until I call on you by name before you begin to speak. 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Before we getstarted, please note that in the top right-hand corner of your screen is a button that you can use tochange views. Speaker view allows you to focus on the person currently speaking; gallery view allowsyou to see a larger number of participants. You can click through the multiple pages in the gallery view tosee who is on and how many more participants there are. I understand there are no ministerialannouncements today. We will now proceed to presenting petitions for a period not exceeding 15minutes. I would like to remind members that any petition presented during the meeting of the specialcommittee must have already been certified by the clerk of petitions. In addition, to ensure a petition isconsidered properly presented, the certificate of the petition and each page of the petition for a petitioncertified in a previous Parliament should be mailed to the committee no later than 6 p.m. the day before.Now we'll go to presenting petitions. Mr. Genuis.Mr. Garnett Genuis (Sherwood ParkFort Saskatchewan,CPC): Mr. Chair, five years ago when Parliament passed Bill C-14, then justice minister JodyWilson-Raybould said that it represented a finely tuned balance between access and safeguards. It alsoincluded a five-year review. Petitioners on the first petition I'm presenting are very concerned to see Bill"} {"doc_id":"doc_7","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: Right w welcome to the the first meeting of uh Real Reaction's uh um developmentmeetings for our our new television remote control . Uh this follows our very successful entry into the theconsumer market over the last year or so um which we want to to build on , taking advantage of the uhthe the latest developments in in technology and the uh the latest uh {vocalsound} uh feelings in inconsumer design and and demand and uh we want to make this the the very best product th that'spossible for everybody , uh one that everybody wants , uh at a good price for the consumer and at agood price for the company . Uh and to that end we need all to work together uh to do that . Um and uh bin no particular order because ev everybody is uh {vocalsound} just as vital to this projectMarketing: Mm.Project Manager: um {vocalsound} I'll just go round th the table , Andrew , marketing , um m Kendrawith the uh um {disfmarker} designing the the the User Interface uh uh and Kate with the the industrialdesign . Um . {vocalsound} What's uh {disfmarker} the the th th project is is here to do , is is to to getthis this project up and moving , ev everybody is is free to uh say wh whatever they want , uh everybodyhas a contribution to make and uh {vocalsound} everybody feel free to interrupt me at any time to to saywhat you want to say . Um in in terms of the immediate meeting the uh um {gap} everybody knowseverybody else , everybody's worked for the the company for a while , if if an anybody feels that theyneed to say more about themselves please do , if if if anybody wants to b briefly give their theirbackground so that everybody's quite clear what everybody uh {disfmarker} uh everybody's experienceis please do so . Uh in fact I'd I'd I'd welcome anybody to uh say something briefly about themselves , infact we will do that by by going round the table quickly and and saying what what contribution you{disfmarker} you're looking to make . So we'll start with Andrew .Marketing: Oh my name's Andrew I'ma {disfmarker} I'm the Market Research person for this uh for this meeting and this uh project forcreating this new remote control and uh yeah I'll be uh presenting information statistics on what peoplewant to want to uh get from this new design , what people want to {gap} like {disfmarker} and from afashion point of view and the practicality point of view .Project Manager: Right {vocalsound} Kendra.User Interface: {vocalsound} I'm Kendra and I'm the Us User Interface Designer and um {vocalsound} Ihaven't had a whole lot of experience in this kind of thing before but I'm m so I'll be {vocalsound}working on the design .Project Manager: Right at least means you haven't got any preconceived ideas so.User Interface: Right . Yep , I'm just open to being creative .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Uh I'mKatie ,Project Manager: Yep , good .Industrial Designer: I'm the Industrial Designer and I'll just be Iguess presenting about the the inter workings of our little remote control and uh {disfmarker} yeah.Project Manager: Okay , very very quickly , um {vocalsound} this {disfmarker} I don't want to makethis meeting too structured because the the whole idea is that it's a um you know a think tank .Everybody says what they {gap} what they want to say , uh and we don't want to be constrained by uhkind of convention or uh uh slides on screens or or anything else um but um briefly um th th this is whatwe want to do . The the remote control needs to be original , there has to be something about it that uhother remote controls don't have so that as soon as people see it they think um yes that's different , uh Iwant one , um and that goes along with being trendy , uh uh you know the I want it uh scenario .User-friendly as as we all know , remote controls can be uh uh very user-unfriendly so we want to makeours one that people can pick upMarketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager: and think oh yes that's{disfmarker} it's obvious how that works , uh and they also want to look at the price and think oh yeahthat's something that {disfmarker} I may not need another remote control but uh it's such a nice one I'mgonna have one . And last but not least , or indeed first of all , it it must make the company money , andwe make the company money by producing what the consumer wants . The uh the further work to bedone is i the um the functional design , uh what it uh what it must actually do , the uh conceptual design ,uh how we actually present that to the consumer and th the the detailed design i is uh how we get thatinto production . Uh now th the main design tool that we have available to us at the moment is is thewhite board and uh uh {vocalsound} let us very quickly do what i what it says in the in the in the promptslide here , um {disfmarker} In fact I suggest to avoid everybody untangling themselves from the uh the"} {"doc_id":"doc_8","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: Okay , well I think we're ready to begin . Right , my name's Adam Duguid , we're herebecause of real reaction , um , we have in the groupMarketing: Oh , Ebenezer Ademesoye . Would youlike me to spell that ?Project Manager: Um , yeah ,Marketing: SProject Manager: go for it mate.Marketing: Um , N_E_Z_Project Manager: N_ E_ Z_ .Marketing: E_R_ .Project Manager: Ebenezer . Andyour role is ?Marketing: I'm the Marketing Expert .Project Manager: You're the Marketing Expert , okay .Next we have ?Industrial Designer: Tarik Rahman . T_A_R_I_K_ .Project Manager: T_ R_ I_ K_ . Andyour role in this is ?Industrial Designer: Industrial Designer .Project Manager: Industrial Designer . And ,lastly we have ?User Interface: Uh , Dave Cochrane .Project Manager: And you're going to be the UserInterface ,User Interface: User Interface Defin Designer , yes .Project Manager: is it ? Designer . Okay .Right . This is the agenda for today's meeting . As you can see , w opening , acquaintance , tool training ,project plan discussion , and closing . Um , we already got n through opening , and partially throughacquaintance . So , the reason we're here , we're gonna design a new remote control , as you probably allknow . The very broad overview is original , trendy , and user-friendly . Course , we'll have to go into abit more um detail than that , but uh {vocalsound} personally I think that the original is gonna be a verykey aspect to this design . Um , there's a lot of remote controls out there anyway , so we're gonna needsomething that's really gonna set it apart . This is how today seems to be going to work . We're gonnahave the three kay phases , as you've probably already been told , the functional , architectural , and thedetailed design . Um {disfmarker} First one's gonna be covering the user requirement spec , technicalfunctions , working design . Second seems to be conceptual components , properties , materials , and thelast one is a detailed analysis of our design so far . Of course , you've all got the similar emails , I believe, right . {vocalsound} What can I say ? Ebenezer , you wanna have a {disfmarker} you wanna draw yourfavourite animal {vocalsound} ?Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Marketing: Sure . {vocalsound}Whiteboard . 'Kay . S okay . I will make this quick , since we don't have much time . {vocalsound} Um .{vocalsound} 'Kay , so it's not the best picture in the world .Project Manager: {vocalsound}Marketing:{vocalsound} Here we have an elephant . First point , begins with an E_ , same like Ebenezer . Also ,elephants have a very good memory , much like myself ,Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Marketing:and I can't remember back when I used to live back in Nigeria , but I think I used to have a pet elephant. So elephants are big , strong and gentle , and they have great memories , and they begin with the letterE_ , just like Ebenezer .Project Manager: Brilliantly done . Thank you . {vocalsound}Marketing: Thankyou .Project Manager: Tarik , would you like to have a shot at a bit of artistry ?Industrial Designer: {gap}.Project Manager: Oh , um ,Marketing: Oh . Oh {vocalsound} ohProject Manager: you can clip them toyour belt .Industrial Designer: Do we take them off ?Marketing: I think you gaIndustrial Designer: Ohright ,Project Manager: You should also l um have your {disfmarker} the lapel mic on as well .IndustrialDesigner: okay .Marketing: The little {disfmarker} The the {disfmarker}Industrial Designer: Ah-ha.Marketing: Oh that's good , we can clip them on . Okay . Yeah ,Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Nowwhere do I put the {disfmarker}Marketing: Just um somewhere {disfmarker}Project Manager: Yep , the{gap} , it's just across there , that's it . Yep .Industrial Designer: Is this supposed to be clipped as well?Project Manager: Yeah .Marketing: I think so .Project Manager: It'll follow you if you{disfmarker}Marketing: Yeah . There you go .Project Manager: You can probably just stick it in yourpocket for now , I wouldn't worry too much . Should have good range .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Uh , destroying your elephant here .Marketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound}IndustrialDesigner: {vocalsound} {vocalsound} {vocalsound} Uh , here we have a tiger . Uh {disfmarker} I'vealways loved tigers . They're just {disfmarker} they're big , they're biggest cats , uh I did a project oncats in the wild when I was a kid and uh it was my favourite cat , just 'cause it was {disfmarker} looksthe best , the stripes , orange . My dad used to talk about {disfmarker} he's from Bangladesh so he usedto tell me all about them when he was {disfmarker} when I was a kid . And uh they're just the mostfeared of of uh animals in the wild . So uh that's why I like them . Didn't say an anything about me reallybut {vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound} Excellent , thank you very much . Dave , if you'd like to"} {"doc_id":"doc_9","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: All set ? Okay . Cool . Right . So um basically I'm just gonna go over real quickly umsome news I've just got from the board on how we're supposed to do with this um {vocalsound} remotecontrol . And then I'm gonna turn over to you guys to make brief presentations um on what you've foundand then we'll have a bit of discussion . So basically uh what I've just found out from the board I dunno ifyou guys got this email as well but it needs to be television only . So no {disfmarker} we're not doingD_V_D_ , we're not doing anything else ,Marketing: Okay .Project Manager: it's just gonna be atelevision remote . {vocalsound} Um it also needs to have the company colours included in it .IndustrialDesigner: {vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound} Um so that's red and black . And it has to havethe slogan , case you guys forget the slogan it's , we put fashion in electronics . Um and no teletext . I'mnot sure what teletext is but I'm assuming you guys do , so we don't wanna include that um in thisparticular design . {vocalsound} For reasons that I don't really know . There's {disfmarker} but it's theboard so there you go . So basically um given those guidelines which will have some effect on how wedesign we'll discuss it later I mean 'cause it's television only we'll be able to change our uh {vocalsound}um well we can s sacrifice more function for a better television remote . {vocalsound} Anyway . So I'mgonna turn over to the Industrial Designer uh to go ahead and make a presentation on{disfmarker}Industrial Designer: Okay . So do I unplug this bit here ?Project Manager: Oh , right yeah.Marketing: Gotta plug you in .Project Manager: Yep . Might have to hit function F_ eight but it looks likeit's gonna come up . Yep . Cool .Industrial Designer: Okay . Right . That's page one of my presentation.Project Manager: Brilliant .Marketing: Very nice . For your first PowerPoint it's lovely .IndustrialDesigner: So the uh method . We're gonna have to understand how remote controls work and res uhsuccessfully complete this project . Um remote control works as follows . This is all pretty basic stuff youguys . Um sends message to another system , so there's an energy source involved in that like a batteryor solar power , something along those lines , there's an integrated circuit , which is the microchip , umand that actually compose the messages and usually the way a a remote control works is it sends infraredbits to another system . A user interface controls the chip , basically that's the casing and the buttons andum accordingly the messages as well . So my findings , um I just did a preliminary study here and uh Ifound that too much metal in remote design could potentially cause interference with the ability of theremote to send commands . And too much metal can cause remotes to behave unexpectedly by receivingfalse signals . Um too much metal is used sometimes and people pick up radio signals and the like , andthere's also the possibility of the remote catching on fire and injuring the customer , just think of thoselawsuits , that'd be really bad .Marketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound} 'Kay .IndustrialDesigner: Therefore I suggest primarily plastic construction . Um , components . Just some ideas that Ihad , um , energy source , it's kinda hip to be eco friendly so I thought maybe we could do somethingwith solar power with an alkaline battery backup . Um the user interface , I was {disfmarker} since wecan't use metal I was thinking maybe a high grade recycled plastic .Project Manager: Mm .IndustrialDesigner: The chip , um , silicon based chip I don't really see any way around that , we can't really bedifferent in that respect . Um , the sender well I'm thinking infrared 'cause it is the industry standard ,multi channel , that's a word I made up , I don't really know what it means .Project Manager: 'Kay . Fairenough .Marketing: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Uh PAL and N_T_S_C_ compatible and uh probablya two hundred foot range .Project Manager: 'Kay .Industrial Designer: Uh and the receiver of course isany number of electronic devices . Um but in this case it'll only be T_V_s . Um personal preferences , Ireally think that we should use plastic as opposed to metal , um , the company simply can't afford thiskinds of lawsuitsMarketing: Fine .Industrial Designer: which adm admittedly is gonna come at the cost ofa certain aesthetic value ,Project Manager: {vocalsound} Is is there a way that we can use um moderntypes of polymers , or mo modern types of plasticsIndustrial Designer: 'cause we were thinking{disfmarker}Project Manager: that maybe do have some kind of aesthetic value um like if a white{disfmarker} like if we talk about like well like on the lapt on these laptops and other ones they use a apretty nice ,Industrial Designer: Right .Marketing: It needs , yeah .Project Manager: you can do i is there"} {"doc_id":"doc_10","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: Welcome back .Industrial Designer: I'm sorry to be late .Project Manager: Welcomeback everybody .User Interface: Yeah . Thanks .Project Manager: So this meeting agenda will be thedetailed design meeting . And uh opening and uh P_M_s {gap} of the meet minutes , uh prototypepresentation from uh Christine and uh Agnes .Industrial Designer: Agnes , yes .Project Manager: Yes anduh evaluation criteria . The finance , it's uh from my side , from the management , and uh productionevaluation . Then uh closing . So we have forty minutes to discuss and uh finalise and close the productand project and to move further , okay , so {disfmarker} Okay , let's talk about uh maybe first uh for theprototype .User Interface: Mm , okay .Project Manager: So I handle to {disfmarker}User Interface: I'vedone a presentation , but it pretty much covers work that we've both done , so if I'm missing anything ,Christine can just correct me .Project Manager: So shall I go to {disfmarker} sorry .Industrial Designer:Uh thank you , so you did a PowerPoint presentation , good for you . {vocalsound}Project Manager: Yep .S Okay , let's go to A_M_I_ .User Interface: {vocalsound} It's not the biggest PowerPoint presentation inthe world , but {disfmarker}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager:{vocalsound} So in two or three or {disfmarker}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}User Interface: Three. Um . {vocalsound} No it's {disfmarker}Marketing: Probably . Technical pa I would think .UserInterface: think it's the last one . No , then this is {vocalsound} the la yeah , that one , final design.Marketing: Ha .Project Manager: Yeah .User Interface: It is named appropriately , you just couldn't seethe name .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound}User Interface: {vocalsound} Umokay , can I have the mouse ?Project Manager: Yes .User Interface: Thanks . Alright , so from{disfmarker} when we were discussing specifying the case in the last meeting , we decided that wewanted an ergonomic shape , the material that we chose was wood , and uh the colour would becustomisable , 'cause you can stain the wood whatever colour . Um , so in terms of function , you have tobe able to turn the T_V_ on and off , volume and channel control , menu control , voice recognitioncontrol , and we've incorporated the L_C_D_ screen on the flip panel as part of the design , if we figureout it's too expensive , well then you just take it off . {vocalsound} Um , so {vocalsound} to unveil ourlovely product . This is our remote control , with the flip panel as you can see .Marketing:{vocalsound}User Interface: So if you lift up the panel , you can see the lovely yellow L_C_D_ display .{vocalsound} Um , this is actually hard to do . The yellow button you have is the on off button , so it'sreally big , hard to miss . You have the the red um triangles are the toggles for changing the volume . Soup {disfmarker} volume up , down {disfmarker} volume down . The green are the channel changing .{vocalsound} S And it's one of those very light , very touchable displays . And then you have the numericpad in the dark blue at the bottom , and on the right-hand side you have the access to the menu on theT_V_ , and on the left-hand side you have the the the ability to turn off the voice recognition . So this ispretty much what we had on the white board the last time .Project Manager: Mm-hmm .User Interface:So .Industrial Designer: Um and uh I could {disfmarker}User Interface: {vocalsound} Oh yes .IndustrialDesigner: Yeah the dUser Interface: Additional feature on the back is that you can have your owncustomised backing and I suppose you could do the same thing on the flip case on the front . So that youcan really make this a highly highly customisable remote control .Industrial Designer: We haven't um uhspecified where the speaker or the microphone will be placed . That depends on the uh s design of thecircuit board inside and uh what room is left um {disfmarker}User Interface: Yeah .Project Manager: Ithink the microphone is on on the top , uh on the middle , the {disfmarker} under the flip .IndustrialDesigner: Yes , okay . Uh-huh .Project Manager: So that will be the safe , so p any {disfmarker} the chip{disfmarker} it's not on the chip because you need to have microphone {gap} to {disfmarker}IndustrialDesigner: No , I mean it depends on the design of the circuit board .Project Manager: Yes .UserInterface: But it shouldn't be under the flip either , because you can have the remote control closed , butyou still might want to activate it by voice .Project Manager: {vocalsound} Uh it's it's {disfmarker} Yeah ,but uh uh my opinion I think it's better under the flip because whenever you want to uh the talk , okay ,so then you can speak then you can close it . But if you put it on the on the flip , okay , then uh technical"} {"doc_id":"doc_11","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: Well hi everyone again .User Interface: Hello .Industrial Designer: Hello .Marketing:HelloProject Manager: Um {vocalsound} like before we uh {disfmarker} I have to redo the meetings from{vocalsound} {disfmarker} n th the minutes from the last meetingMarketing: Mm-hmm .ProjectManager: and so here we go . Uh it was discussed in the last meeting uh which was opened by thepresentation from the interface um designer {vocalsound} that uh looks would be very important on thisnew remoteUser Interface: Designer . {vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager: and um itis to send messages of course to the T_V_ . It should have nine channel buttons , a next button , volumebuttons , subtitle buttons , switch to control features , colour contrast , sharpness etcetera . It shouldhave a memory switch , a mute button in case the telephone rings or something . Uh speech recognitionis one of her very f favourite personal uh features she would like see d d to be integrated in this um inthis new remote . Um . {vocalsound} Should be child friendly design with few buttons , colourful maybewith s star shaped or other shaped buttons . Um she uh presented also an oversized remote which sheguarantees nobody will ever be able to lose .User Interface: {vocalsound}Project Manager: Um{disfmarker}Marketing: And she was challenged on that point {vocalsound}Project Manager:{vocalsound} that's right . {vocalsound}User Interface: {vocalsound} Yes . {vocalsound}IndustrialDesigner: {vocalsound}Project Manager: But uh her very f personal favourite really she , she would verymuch like to see a speech recogniser integrated in this remote . The industrial designer um presented heruh {vocalsound} thoughts on the issue . She would like a special case made out of plastic that is verystrong , not using any harmful materials , should be recyclable and should be colourful . Should have anintegrated circuit board that's highly sophisticated and temperature resistant . She would like to see atimer and or alarm facility integrated . Uh technically this thing would also have a resistor and a capacitor, diode transistor , resonator , and if possible a rechargeable battery . Uh and of course a circuit board .And how it would works , you press the button , the chip is morse {disfmarker} morse code related relaysthe {disfmarker} uh to the generat to the generator amplification and uh the circuit board is veryinexpensive to build and so she thinks this is a great feature uh to to to consider .Marketing: Okay.Project Manager: She would like uh {disfmarker} this whole thing should be push buttons with a simplechip uh scrolling method is more expensive and not that practical anymore . Should be battery operatedand of course she would have the special cases . The marketing expert uh who has to finally come upwith {disfmarker} to to to market this product has been watching the competition , has done someresearch on the internet and also has used h her personal observations to come up with the fact that sucha remote sh should be small , easy to use and it should be eye catching . From her point of view of courseone of the most important facts is that we should get to market before our competition does . To do thatuh maybe one or two features should be developed on which we could dwell on or in other words onwhich our campaign could be built on . Too many new features or too many points would only confusematter . So we prefer to have one or two features that can be really uh driven home . Um it should havea fruit and vegetable design and should have a soft feel . She feels that's really what people want today .And the decision that we took last time was that uh the special feature we would like to see is a speechrecogniser , the energy should be battery uh should be on a chip , should be trendy design , compact andstrong , and should have buttons . And that concludes the presentation from the last minutes{disfmarker} from the last meeting . Now uh we are ready for the presentation of the prototype .UserInterface: Yeah .Industrial Designer: Yeah .User Interface: Just the look like , the button part I'll explain.Industrial Designer: Yeah . Uh so this is our {disfmarker} what uh we have made . This is a model of theremote control which we are going to build .Project Manager: Mm-hmm .Industrial Designer: Uh this is usin a snail shape so uh it it is attractiveMarketing: Mm-hmm .Industrial Designer: um and it's{disfmarker} it's blue in colour uh bright and uh it has yellow buttons and all the different colourbuttonsMarketing: Mm-hmm .Industrial Designer: so it is a {disfmarker} uh uh a {disfmarker}looks-wise it is beautiful .Marketing: Mm-hmm .Industrial Designer: Uh and also compact in shape.Marketing: Mm-hmm .Industrial Designer: Uh um and also i it it will be easily fit into {disfmarker} into"} {"doc_id":"doc_12","qid":"","text":"Industrial Designer: Now what .Project Manager: 'Kay , hello everybody . Uh , I guess you all know whatis it about , you all received the email , I guess . Uh , we are actually doing this meeting to start a newproject which is about designing a remote control . So I'm going to be the project manager of this uhproject . And uh so I'm {disfmarker} present myself . I'm Fabien Cardinaux and uh I I guess you canpresent yourself . So I dunno , you can starts .User Interface: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Okay ,so my name is Petre {gap} . You can call me Petre {gap} , or Peter if you like . I don't care {gap}.Project Manager: Okay .Marketing: Uh my name's Bob Mor .Project Manager: And you are ? In theproject ?Industrial Designer: Uh , in the project I'm supposed to be the technic .Marketing: Oh , sorry.Project Manager: {gap}Marketing: 'Kay . So my name's Bob Morris . I'm the Marketing Expert for thisproject .Industrial Designer: Bob ,Marketing: Bob yeah .Industrial Designer: okay .User Interface: Myname is Hamed Getabdar , and uh I'm going to be Interface Designer in this project .Industrial Designer:Okay .Project Manager: So , uh , so today we are doing a short meeting to present the project , so umWe are gooding we are going to present the tool we are {vocalsound} we are going to use during all thisproject . We are talking about the project plan , and we are going to to discuss about st our first ideasand so on , and , yeah . So we have around twenty five minutes to do this meeting . Um . So what is thegoal of this project ? Is to design a new remote control . So it should be , of course , new and original ,and um it should be trendy , and user friendly . That mean it's a very challenging project , and uh uh . Sow it's {disfmarker} we will try to do our best , and hopefully come with something very new and thatpeople want to buy . So , um {disfmarker} So what's uh what are we going to do during this all thisproject ? So it's more like we are going to do inv individual work all in o in o our specialities and we aregoing to meet each other quite often to discuss and to find a good way . Um . Yeah and everything is{disfmarker} will be like this . Um so now we are going to to get used t to to the tools we are going touse all {disfmarker} during all this project . So we can try to use uh the whiteboard here . So {gap} uh.Industrial Designer: Okay .Project Manager: For example we can try to write what is our our favouriteanimal and write the f our favourite characteristics about it . Mm . Uh {vocalsound} . So uh {disfmarker}{gap} So I will ask you all to do the same .Industrial Designer: Okay .Project Manager: Just to get usedto the whiteboard .Industrial Designer: So probably I would try to try to draw the animal . Well sh shouldI draw the picture of the animal ?Project Manager: Yeah , yeah , you can draw the picture , of course{vocalsound} .Industrial Designer: I I th I think I should .Marketing: Yeah go ahead .Industrial Designer:Okay , so . Um {vocalsound} . Okay , American , um . Um . I would use the bird . So I tried to sketch itout . I had to first uh write it down because I am not absolutely sure if I can draw it , but ah . Can yourecognise it {vocalsound} as a bird ?Project Manager: {vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound}IndustrialDesigner: Okay {vocalsound} it's your turn to {disfmarker}Marketing: Okay , okay . {vocalsound} So Ithink my favourite animal would be a c a cat .Project Manager: Oh .Marketing: That's its head .ProjectManager: {vocalsound}User Interface: {vocalsound}Marketing: Um I probably like cats the mostbecause they're cuddly and furry and uh playful .Project Manager: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer:{gap}User Interface: {vocalsound}Marketing: Okay .User Interface: I dunno if I should go with this{gap} {vocalsound} .Industrial Designer: Oh it's okay .Project Manager: {vocalsound}Marketing: Thanks. {vocalsound}User Interface: If it is enough line .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Marketing:{vocalsound} {vocalsound} Maybe put it upUser Interface: {vocalsound} I'm sorry .{vocalsound}Marketing: {disfmarker} Put it a Maybe put it on the desk or something .IndustrialDesigner: Yeah .User Interface: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: I should get used to the tool , so.Marketing: {vocalsound}User Interface: {vocalsound} Okay .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Oh justwait {gap} a little bit . C could we put it here , to make it as straight as possible ?User Interface:{vocalsound} {vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Ahprobably not .User Interface: {vocalsound} They should be remote .Marketing: {vocalsound}IndustrialDesigner: Okay , it {disfmarker} it works like this .Marketing: Uh , that's better .User Interface: Okay ,thanks .Marketing: Your lapel microphone's fallen off .User Interface: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer:"} {"doc_id":"doc_13","qid":"","text":"PhD E: Yeah .Professor B: Um , so . If we can't , we can't . But uh we 're gonna try to make this anabbreviated meeting cuz the {disfmarker} the next {disfmarker} next occupants were pushing for it , so. Um . So . Agenda is {disfmarker} according to this , is transcription status , DARPA demos XML tools ,disks , backups , et cetera andGrad H: Does anyone have anything to {pause} add to the agenda?Professor B: OK . Should we just go in order ? Transcription status ? Who 's {disfmarker} that 'sprobably you .Postdoc A: I can do that quickly . Um I hired several more transcribers , They 're makinggreat progress .Professor B: Seven ?Postdoc A: Seve - several , several .Professor B: Oh .Postdoc A: Anduh {disfmarker} and uh , uh I 've been uh finishing up the uh double checking . I hoped to have had thatdone by today but it 's gonna take one more week .Grad H: UmPhD D: I gGrad H: as a somewhat segueinto the next topic , um could I get a hold of uh the data even if it 's not really corrected yet just so I canget the data formats and make sure the information retrieval stuff is working ?Postdoc A: Certainly . YeahI mean , it 's in the same place it 's been .Grad H: So can you just {disfmarker} Oh , it is .Postdoc A: Uh -huh . No change .Grad H: OK . Just {disfmarker} So , \" transcripts \" is the sub - directory ?Postdoc A: Uh{disfmarker} Yes . Uh - huh .Grad H: OK . So I 'll {disfmarker} I 'll probably just make some copies ofthose rather than use the ones that are there .Postdoc A: OK .Grad H: Um and then just {disfmarker} we'll have to remember to delete them once the corrections are made .Postdoc A: OK .Professor B: OK ,whPhD D: I also got anot a short remark to the transcription . I 've uh just processed the first five EDUmeetings and they are chunked up so they would {disfmarker} they probably can be sent to IBMwhenever they want them .Grad C: Cool .PhD F: Well the second one of thosePhD D: Yep . It 's already atIBM ,PhD F: is already at IBM .PhD D: but the other ones {disfmarker}PhD F: That 's the one that{pause} we 're waiting to hear from them on .PhD D: Yeah . Yeah .Postdoc A: OK .PhD F: Yeah .PostdocA: These are separate from the ones that {disfmarker}PhD F: As soon as {disfmarker}Postdoc A: I mean, these are {disfmarker}PhD F: They 're the IBM set .PhD D: Yep .Grad H: It 's this one .Postdoc A:Excellent . Good .PhD F: Yeah . And so as soon as we hear from Brian that this one is OKGrad H: Is mymike on ? Yeah .PhD F: and we get the transcript back and we find out that hopefully there are noproblems matching up the transcript with what we gave them , then uh we 'll be ready to go and we 'lljust send them the next four as a big batch ,Postdoc A: Excellent .PhD F: and let them work on that .GradH: And so we 're doing those as disjoint from the ones we 're transcribing here ?PhD F: Yes , exactly.Grad H: OK , good .PhD F: We 're sort of doing things in parallel , that way we can get as much done aat once .Grad H: Yeah , I think that 's the right way to do it ,PhD F: Yeah .Grad H: especially for theinformation retrieval stuff . Anything else on transcription status ?Postdoc A: Hm - mmm .Grad H: OK.Professor B: DARPA demos , we had the submeeting the other day .Grad H: Right , which uh{disfmarker} So I 've been working on using the THISL tools to do information retrieval on meeting dataand the THISL tools are {disfmarker} there 're two sets , there 's a back - end and a front - end , so thefront - end is the user interface and the back - end is the indexing tool and the querying tool . And so I've written some tools to convert everything into the right for file formats . And the command line versionof the indexing and the querying is now working . So at least on the one meeting that I had the transcriptfor uh conveniently you can now do information retrieval on it , do {disfmarker} type in a {disfmarker} astring and get back a list of start - end times for the meeting ,PhD F: What {disfmarker} what kind of uh{disfmarker} what does that look like ? The string that you type in .Grad H: uh of hits .PhD F: What areyou {disfmarker} are you {disfmarker} are they keywords , or are they {disfmarker} ?Grad H: Keywords.PhD F: OK . I see .Grad H: Right ? And so {disfmarker} and then it munges it to pass it to the THISL IRwhich uses an SGML - like format for everything .PhD F: I see .Professor B: And then does it playsomething back or that 's something you 're having to program ?Grad H: Um , right now , I have a toolthat will do that on a command line using our standard tools ,Professor B: Yeah .Grad H: but my intentionis to do a prettier user interface based either {disfmarker} So {disfmarker} so that 's the other thing Iwanted to discuss , is well what should we do for the user interface ? We have two tools that have alreadybeen written . Um the SoftSound guys did a web - based one ,Professor B: Mm - hmm .Grad H: um ,"} {"doc_id":"doc_14","qid":"","text":"Lynne Neagle AM: Good morning, everyone. Welcome to the Children, Young People and EducationCommittee this morning. We've received no apologies for absence. Can I ask if there are any declarationsof interest from Members, please? No. Okay, thank you. Item 2 this morning is the Children (Abolition ofDefence of Reasonable Punishment) (Wales) Bill: Stage 2 proceedings. I'm pleased to welcome JulieMorgan AM, Deputy Minister for Health and Social Services; Karen Cornish, deputy director, children andfamilies division at Welsh Government; and Emma Gammon, lawyer for Welsh Government. Thank youfor attending this morning and welcome to the committee. I'm just going to run through the proceduresthat we're going to follow now. As I said, the purpose of the meeting is to undertake Stage 2 proceedingson the Children (Abolition of Defence of Reasonable Punishment) (Wales) Bill. For these proceedings,Members should have copies of the marshalled list of amendments, the groupings of the amendments fordebate and the voting order for the amendments. The marshalled list of amendments is the list of allamendments tabled, marshalled into the order in which the sections appear in the Bill. The order in whichwe consider amendments will be the default order—that is, sections 1 to 3 and the long title. You will seefrom the groupings list that amendments have been grouped to facilitate debate. However, the order inwhich they're called and moved for decision is dictated by the marshalled list. Members will, therefore,need to follow the two papers, although I will advise Members when I call them whether they're beingcalled to speak in the debate or to move their amendments for a decision. There will be one debate oneach group of amendments. Members who wish to speak in a particular group should indicate to me inthe usual way. I will call the Deputy Minister to speak on each group. For the record, in accordance withthe convention agreed by the Business Committee, as Chair I will move amendments in the name of theDeputy Minister. For expediency, I will assume that the Deputy Minister wishes me to move all of heramendments, and I will do so at the appropriate place in the marshalled list. Deputy Minister, if you donot want a particular amendment to be moved, please indicate to me at the relevant point inproceedings. In line with our usual practice, legal advisers to the committee and the Deputy Minister arenot expected to provide advice on the record. If Members wish to seek legal advice during proceedings,please do so by passing a note to the legal adviser and, if necessary, we can adjourn. My intention is totry to dispose of all amendments during today's meeting. I will call a short break in proceedings at anappropriate time, if necessary. Okay, thank you. So, we will proceed, then, to group 1, which is the dutyto promote public awareness. The lead amendment in the group is amendment 1 in the name of theDeputy Minister. I move amendment 1 in the Deputy Minister's name and call on the Deputy Minister tospeak to her amendment and the other amendments in this group.Julie Morgan AM: Thank you verymuch, Chair. My amendments 1 and 4 will place a duty on Welsh Ministers to provide information andincrease awareness about the change in the law to ensure that the public are made aware of how the lawwill change as a result of the defence of reasonable punishment being abolished and that physicalpunishment would be prohibited once the Act commences. I tabled these amendments in response to thiscommittee's recommendation—this was a recommendation from this committee in the Stage 1 report, soI have responded to that. I've already made a commitment to a high-intensity awareness-raisingcampaign over approximately six years from Royal Assent, should the Bill be passed. I've consideredamendments 1A to 1E, which have been tabled by Janet Finch-Saunders, and which relate to the duty toraise awareness. Amendment 1A introduces a reference to public understanding. We don't think, actually,that this adds anything to the Government amendment, which already mentions awareness. It makes theawareness-raising duty open-ended with no time limit, which is not necessary. By commencement,messaging around the change in the law will be embedded. The awareness-raising campaign will continuefor a number of years. Therefore, an ongoing duty referring specifically to the law change would not berequired. I understand, of course, that the awareness-raising campaign needs to be comprehensive, wellplanned and to reach out to all those people and all those communities who need to be aware of the lawchange, and understand how to respond to it. But I don't think it's helpful or necessary to highlightspecific groups, such as visitors to Wales, on the face of the Bill—that's the approach taken in"} {"doc_id":"doc_15","qid":"","text":"Marketing: {vocalsound} Okay . Oh I totally {disfmarker} Yeah 'cause I moved it . {vocalsound} 'S put itover here . Then we don't have to worry about it .User Interface: {vocalsound} Ready for this ?ProjectManager: All set ? Cool . Alright , it is PowerPoint time . I've done more PowerPoints in this particularexperiment than I've ever done in my life before this experiment {vocalsound}Industrial Designer:{vocalsound} Yeah {vocalsound} .Project Manager: which is kind of fun .User Interface: {vocalsound}Oh man . {vocalsound}Project Manager: So uh here we have our detailed design meeting where we willum look at the prototype and um {vocalsound} {disfmarker} right so um , I finally figured out what thiswhole second bullet point is about in my {disfmarker} that my coach was sending to me . It means I'msupposed to read the minutes from the previous meeting .Industrial Designer: Oh really ?ProjectManager: I think . {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Okay .Marketing: Huh .Project Manager: I don'tknow . Otherwise it's just saying I'm the secretaryMarketing: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}ProjectManager: and I'm {disfmarker} therefore I'm taking the minutes , s so just to go um {vocalsound} justreal briefly to go over minutes from last meeting , uh , I will open them slowly , no ? Wait for it , wait forit . {vocalsound}Marketing: Yeah that's not you . {vocalsound}Project Manager: No . That's how the{disfmarker}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound} Wait .User Interface:{vocalsound}Project Manager: This is , this is very high-powered stuff here , double-clicking , there wego . So um basically the moral of the story from our last minute uh {disfmarker} last meeting was that{vocalsound} um we that we had meetings from {disfmarker} uh we had presentations done by theIndustrial Designer , uh or from Nathan , and Ron and from Sarah about what we can do here um andwhat sort of limitations we're operating with um {disfmarker} uh excuse me what limitations we'reoperating under , what kind of risk we'd be looking at with some of the various approaches we werediscussing and we essentially came to the conclusion that we should develop a remote with uh voicerecognition , I_E_ that had a vaguely non-remote like shape um because you didn't really need to use itas a remote since you could just use your voice . That would include some {disfmarker} mostly just thesimple design features for a television operation but with a slide or a fold-out bay for more advancedfunctions for users . Um , and uh the uh uh the U_I_D_ and the I_D_ were asked to go ahead and startdeveloping a prototype for us to look at . {vocalsound} So . That's sorted , back to the main{vocalsound} meet here , um , go ahead and take it away guys .Industrial Designer: Well . Uh , we haveassembled our prototype , um . What's to be said about it ? Um , we took into account a lot of the thingsthat we went over in the last meeting , um . Some of the most important things to consider are that wedecided not to go for the touch screen which you can seeProject Manager: Mm-hmm .Industrial Designer:and opted for some very large buttons for the primary functions , um . This is going to be the on offbuttonProject Manager: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: and we have these buttons to gothrough the channels um and then two volume buttons down here , d uh we decided those were the mostimportant uh buttons . And then , for the more advanced uh functions there is a slide out panel here umand you can see that there are lots of other things going on . But this actually can slide back in andprovides a very nice aesthetic when it's all put away , um . As far as the uh whole visible light thing , wedecided to go with the multiple colours coming out ,User Interface: {vocalsound}Marketing: Ah .ProjectManager: {vocalsound} Nice . {vocalsound}User Interface: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: why not?Marketing: {vocalsound} Fair enough .User Interface: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Of course , ifthat's annoying for some people that function can be turned off . Um .Project Manager: {vocalsound}Perfect .Industrial Designer: Go ahead .User Interface: No it's important to {vocalsound} we talked aquite a bit about uh you know the the interchangeable uh faces and what we've done here is come upwith a bit of a natural look hereMarketing: Mm .User Interface: um f we call it fruityMarketing: Right.Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}User Interface: if you will . Um . Right , um ,Marketing: Appropriate ,okay .User Interface: of course that's uh interchangeableIndustrial Designer: {vocalsound}UserInterface: and uh I think it would be desirable for the uh for the regular product in the in the in the in thefirst packaging to be something a little bit more subduedMarketing: Mm 'kay .User Interface: but this is"} {"doc_id":"doc_16","qid":"","text":"Grad A: OK , we 're recording .Professor F: We can say the word \" zero \" all we want ,PhD G: I 'm doingsomeProfessor F: but just {disfmarker}PhD G: square brackets , coffee sipping , square brackets .PhD B:That 's not allowed , I think .Postdoc C: Cur - curly brackets .Grad E: Is that voiced or unvoiced ?Grad A:Curly brackets .PhD B: Curly brackets .Professor F: Curly brackets .Grad A: Right .PhD B: Oops .ProfessorF: Well , correction for transcribers .PhD G: Mmm ! {comment} {vocalsound} Gar - darn !Professor F:Yeah .Postdoc C: Channel two .Grad A: Do we use square brackets for anything ?Postdoc C: Yeah . Uh{disfmarker}Grad E: These poor transcribers .Professor F: uPostdoc C: Not ri not right now . I mean{disfmarker} No .PhD D: There 's gonna be some zeros from this morning 's meeting because I noticedthatProfessor F: uPhD D: Barry , I think maybe you turned your mike off before the digits were{disfmarker} Oh , was it during digits ? Oh , so it doesn't matter .Professor F: Yeah .Grad A: It 's still nota good idea .PhD B: So it 's not {disfmarker} it 's not that bad if it 's at the end , but it 's {disfmarker} inthe beginning , it 's {pause} bad .PhD D: Yeah . Yeah .Grad A: Yeah , you wanna {disfmarker} youwanna keep them on so you get {pause} good noise {disfmarker} noise floors , through the wholemeeting .Postdoc C: That 's interesting . Hmm .Professor F: Uh , I probably just should have left it on .Yeah I did have to run , but {disfmarker}Grad E: Is there any way to change that in the software ?GradA: Change what in the software ?Grad E: Where like you just don't {disfmarker} like if you {disfmarker}if it starts catching zeros , like in the driver or something {disfmarker} in the card , or somewhere in thehardware {disfmarker} Where if you start seeing zeros on w across one channel , you just add some{vocalsound} random , @ @ {comment} noise floor {disfmarker} like a small noise floor .Grad A: I meancertainly we could do that , but I don't think that 's a good idea . We can do that in post - processing if{disfmarker} if the application needs it .Grad E: Yeah .PhD B: Manual post - processing .Professor F: Well, I {disfmarker} u I actually don't know what the default {comment} is anymore as to how we 're usingthe {disfmarker} the front - end stuff but {disfmarker} for {disfmarker} for {disfmarker} when we usethe ICSI front - end ,Grad A: As an argument .Professor F: but um , there is an {disfmarker} there is ano an option in {disfmarker} in RASTA , which , um , {vocalsound} in when I first put it in , uh , back inthe days when I actually wrote things , uh , {vocalsound} I {pause} did actually put in a random bit or sothat was in it ,Grad E: OK .Professor F: but {vocalsound} then I realized that putting in a random bit wasequivalent to adding uh {disfmarker} adding flat spectrum ,Grad E: Right .Professor F: and it was a lotfaster to just add a constant to the {disfmarker} {vocalsound} to the spectrum . So then I just starteddoing thatGrad E: Mmm . OK .Professor F: instead of calling \" rand \" {comment} or something ,Grad E:Right .Professor F: so . So it d it does that . Gee ! Here we all are !Grad A: Uh , so the only agenda itemswere Jane {disfmarker} was Jane wanted to talk about some of the IBM transcription process .ProfessorF: There 's an agenda ?Grad A: I sort of {vocalsound} condensed the three things you said into that .And then just {disfmarker} I only have like , this afternoon and maybe tomorrow morning to getanything done before I go to Japan for ten days . So if there 's anything that n absolutely , desperatelyneeds to be done , you should let me know now .Professor F: Uh , and you just sent off a Eurospeechpaper , so .PhD G: Right . I hope they accept it .Professor F: Right .PhD G: I mean , I {disfmarker} bothactu as {disfmarker} as a submission and {disfmarker} {vocalsound} you know , as a paper . Um{disfmarker} but {disfmarker}Grad A: Well yeah , you sent it in {pause} late .Professor F: Yeah , I guessyou {disfmarker} first you have to do the first one ,Grad A: Yeah .Professor F: and then {disfmarker}Yeah .PhD G: We actually exceeded the delayed deadline by o another day , so .PhD B: Oops .ProfessorF: Oh they {disfmarker} they had some extension that they announced or something ?PhD G: Well yeah .Liz had sent them a note saying \" could we please {pause} have another \" {comment} {pause} I don'tknow , \" three days \" or something , and they said yes .PhD D: And then she said \" Did I say three ?GradA: Oh ,PhD D: I meant four . \"Grad A: that was the other thing uh ,PhD G: But uGrad A: uh , DaveGelbart sent me email , I think he sent it to you too , {comment} that um , there 's a special topic ,section in si in Eurospeech on new , corp corpors corpora . And it 's not due until like May fifteenth.Professor F: Oh this isn't the Aurora one ?Grad A: No .Professor F: It 's another one ?Grad A: It 's a"} {"doc_id":"doc_17","qid":"","text":"The Acting Chair (Mr. Bruce Stanton (Simcoe North, CPC)): Honourable members, I call this meeting toorder. Welcome to the 15thmeeting of the House of Commons Special Committee on the COVID-19Pandemic. This will be a hybrid meeting. Members will be participating via video conference or inperson. I will remind you that in order to avoid issues with sound, members participating in personshould not also be connecting by video conference. In order to ensure that those joining the meeting viavideo conference can be seen and heard by those in the chamber, two screens have been set up here oneither side of the Speaker's chair, and members in the chamber can listen to the floor audio or tointerpretation using the earpieces on their desks. Before speaking, please wait until I recognize you byname and please direct your remarks through the chair. For those joining by video conference, I'd like toremind you to leave your microphones on mute when you are not speaking. Also, please note that if youwant to speak in English, you need to be on the English channel for interpretation, and if you want tospeak French, you should do so on the French channel. Should you wish to alternate between the twolanguages, please change to the channel for the language that you happen to be using at the time.Should members participating by video conference need to request the floor outside their designatedspeaking times, they should activate their mic and state that they have a point of order. Those in theChamber can rise in the usual way. Please note that today's proceedings will be televised in the sameway as a typical sitting of the House. We will now proceed to ministerial announcements. I invite theRight Hon. Prime Minister to take the floor.Right Hon. Justin Trudeau (Papineau, Lib.): Thank you,Mr.Chair. I rise today to address what so many people of colour live with every day. Over the past fewdays, we've seen horrific reports of police violence against black men and women south of the border, butthese are not isolated incidents or elsewhere problems. Prejudice, discrimination and violence are a livedreality for far too many people. They are a result of systems that far too often condone, normalize,perpetrate and perpetuate inequality and injustice against people of colour. As a country, we are notconcerned bystanders simply watching what is happening next door. We are part of it. The calls forjustice, for equality and for peace are found echoed in our communities, because anti-black racism ishappening here, everywhere in Canada, every single day. This is something that our own staff, cabinetministers and colleagues face even in these halls. Over the past few days, I've heard many of thesepersonal stories directly from them. I'm not just talking about acts of violence. I'm also talking aboutmicroaggressions, which many of us may not even see. That is the daily reality of far too many racializedCanadians, and it needs to stop. When it comes to being an ally, I have made serious mistakes in thepast, mistakes that I deeply regret and continue to learn from. I want to thank my colleagues,community leaders and fellow Canadians for opening my eyes to what is really going on in ourcommunities and for helping me better understand both privilege and power. I'm not perfect, but notbeing perfect is not a free pass to not do the right thing. It's not an excuse to not step up, stand up foreach other, be an ally. I know that for so many people listening right now, the last thing you want to hearis another speech on racism from a white politician. I'm not here today to describe a reality I do not knowor to speak to a pain I have not felt. I'm here because I want you to know that our government islistening. We hear your calls for justice, equality and accountability. We acknowledge your frustration,your anger, your heartbreak. We see you. Since coming to office, our government has taken manyconcrete steps to fight anti-black racism, systemic discrimination and injustice across the country. We areworking directly with the communities and their leaders to close the gaps that persist in Canada. Forexample, we have provided $9million to support programs for black Canadian youth. We have madesignificant investments to enable the Public Health Agency of Canada to provide more mental healthservices to people who have experienced racism or intergenerational trauma. We are helping communityorganizations to obtain funding to purchase equipment or lease space. We have also created theanti-racism secretariat, which has an envelope of $4.6million, to address systemic barriers, such asemployment, justice and social participation, that perpetuate injustice. We have made progress, but weknow the work is far from being done. Over the past five years, our government has worked with"} {"doc_id":"doc_18","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: So we come to the third meetings . I have {gap} good .Industrial Designer:{vocalsound}Project Manager: Um so in the last meeting we have discussed the functional design andnow we will talk about the conceptual design . So we will talk about some specific details .IndustrialDesigner: Okay so I think I will do my presentation on the components concept so can you please uhopen uh {disfmarker} I'm participant two .Project Manager: This {disfmarker}Industrial Designer:Components design .Project Manager: {gap}Industrial Designer: Okay so uh the first thing uh I havedone is to to made a review together with the uh manufactural uh department and have whichcomponents was uh available to build a remote control . So for energy sources we have we have tochoose between the solar energy , hand dynamo and uh kinetic um well uh kinetic uh technique{vocalsound} to to store the energy .User Interface: {vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound}IndustrialDesigner: We also um {vocalsound} we also can put a regular battery in the in the remote control . Now{disfmarker}Project Manager: Uh this is what we have decided in the last meeting . But if we use battery{disfmarker}Industrial Designer: Yeah b uh f well uh I meant uh by by battery I meant uh I will not havea uh a wire between the remote control and the energy source but uh I didn't fou we didn't decide yetwhich kind of battery we will put inside the the remote . So uh it's a point to discuss . Then uh the casematerial we have uh uh also several choices , like wood , rubber , titanium or latex . {vocalsound} But uhwell it's not a a re uh well a real issue for the {vocalsound} {disfmarker} from the technical uh point ofview . Concerning the interface uh we can we can put mm just simple buttons or scrolls or buttons uhmuch more complicated , but it also requires that the chip to process the button is more complicated so.User Interface: Mm .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} And uh this is the last point , the choice of chips .So what I have f found is that I think basic battery or kinetic uh energy uh collection is the is the betterway to provide energy because I think solar energy wi won't work {vocalsound} in a cluttered uh{vocalsound} uh environment .User Interface: Mm .Industrial Designer: So um so I think we can startwith these two main things . For the case uh well uh I think that uh titanium is um is a good choicebecause it's trendy and it's uh it's uh well it's modern and uh user are are are {disfmarker} mm will be uhvery happy to have a {vocalsound} a a nice remote . For the interface uh I think that we can ach achieveuh all the desired functionalities by s just uh using uh rubber buttons , simple buttons and th thus thisallow to use a regular chip {vocalsound} that are uh well cheaper . {vocalsound}User Interface: Mm.Industrial Designer: And s so uh we can move to the next slide .User Interface: Sorry .IndustrialDesigner: Yeah .User Interface: What is this single curved {disfmarker} what does it mean ?IndustrialDesigner: Well uh uh i i it's uh it's the the shape of the um of the remote .User Interface: So it's it's not{disfmarker}Industrial Designer: You you will have the {disfmarker} well um the the curve will fit intoyour hand when you grab the {disfmarker}User Interface: Yo l yeah . When you hold on it , it iscomfortable to hold .Industrial Designer: Yeah . It's more confog f comfortable that if these uh it'scompletely flat .User Interface: Okay . Yeah . And the battery , is it kind of a rechargeable or it doesn'tmatter ?Industrial Designer: Yeah the um that's the point . The kinetic one is uh y you can recharge uhby the um {disfmarker}User Interface: That that's what it means by kinetic .Industrial Designer:{vocalsound} Yeah and by {disfmarker} well by just by moving the ar uh your arm the mm well theremote will uh accumulate energy .User Interface: Okay . Mm-hmm . Okay .Industrial Designer: But I d Idon't know it's {disfmarker} if it is feasible because I don't know if yet if if the user will move enough toprovide the remote um all the necessary energy .User Interface: Mm . {vocalsound} Mm . Okay . Yeah .Yeah . We we might check with our R_ and D_ department to see if they have this product {vocalsound}ready for market . {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Yeah . {vocalsound} And {disfmarker} yeah and socan you go to the next slide please . So and uh that's uh that summarize well what I have said .UserInterface: Mm mm . {vocalsound} {vocalsound} WhaIndustrial Designer: So uh you're right we can uhsee in our uh R_ and D_ uh {vocalsound} if the kinetic metal is sufficient to provide enough energy .UserInterface: Ah the department . Mm .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} That's it .User Interface: Uh{disfmarker} So I um keep in touch with the R_ and D_ department .Industrial Designer: Oh yeahUser"} {"doc_id":"doc_19","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: Okay , welcome to the detailed design meeting . Again , I'm gonna take minutes . Oh ,we're gonna have a prototype presentation first .User Interface: {gap}Project Manager: Uh , who's gonnagive the prototype presentation ? You two guys ? Okay . Go ahead .Industrial Designer: Yes .{vocalsound} {gap}User Interface: {gap} .Marketing: {vocalsound} {vocalsound} {gap} .{vocalsound}User Interface: {gap} coffee .Marketing: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: 'Kay , we'vemade a prototype . Um , we've got uh {vocalsound} uh our aspects from the last meeting . Uh ,especially we looked at the form , material and the colour . Um , we've uh drawn here the p prototype .The logo is uh is uh {vocalsound} is pretty uh {vocalsound} obvious to see on the on the remote control,User Interface: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: but it is necessary when you want tobuild your uh company f to a level higher . Um , {vocalsound} our interface elements , there are shownin the in the drawing . Maybe you can uh point them uh {disfmarker} The functions .User Interface: Uh ,well the uh {disfmarker} all the functions are discussed uh {disfmarker} I think the most of the functionsare uh uh obvious . Uh , it's a little bit . Uh , power button . Uh then the the the nine uh channels .ProjectManager: {vocalsound}User Interface: Uh the volume uh uh at the side , and the other side is theprogrammes . And then we had uh just uh two buttons , we place them in the middle , uh the menu , andfor the teletextProject Manager: Oh no , the the the mute button misses now .User Interface:{vocalsound} {disfmarker} I thought that was thMarketing: Alright , I {disfmarker}Project Manager: Doy do you {disfmarker}User Interface: Oh , the mute button .Project Manager: did we want to have a mmute button ?Industrial Designer: But uh that {disfmarker}Marketing: Yeah .Industrial Designer: It's uhhere then , in the middle .User Interface: Yeah .Project Manager: Huh .Marketing: Alright , and uh yougotta point out which is the volume um uh button and which is the programme button .IndustrialDesigner: Yes , umUser Interface: {vocalsound} Well , yeah mo uh moIndustrial Designer: we'vediscUser Interface: Yeah , well most of them are right-handed .Industrial Designer: Most of theusersMarketing: Yeah , but you you gotta make it clear on the {disfmarker} on {disfmarker}UserInterface: Yeah well , I don't have time in uh anymore on the {disfmarker}Industrial Designer: Yes , ythere there will be a p a little a little P_ on that and a little uh {disfmarker} yeah .Marketing: Yeah , and aand a triangle on that .User Interface: Oh yeah , just progr programme above , I think .Marketing: Yes .Next to that I kinda miss a zero actually .User Interface: {vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound}Wait , there's {disfmarker} was one thing I wanted to ask .Marketing: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer:{vocalsound}User Interface: {vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer:{vocalsound}Project Manager: Uh , there are different ways for remote controls to uh {vocalsound} douh likeMarketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager: uh d I call it teens and twenties . Uh , y th th th the twonumbers .Industrial Designer: Yes .Marketing: All n no , that's um {vocalsound} kinda dependent on thetelevision .User Interface: Yeah , true , yeah .Industrial Designer: It's a television . Yes .Project Manager:Yeah , but do we have {disfmarker} do we need extra buttons ,User Interface: Uh {disfmarker}ProjectManager: {vocalsound} for example some uh some have to {disfmarker}User Interface: Uh I think so.Marketing: I think {disfmarker}Industrial Designer: Yes , yes , you have you have a lot of standardbuttons that has to be uh on it , uh th with the one and a double uh uh {disfmarker}Marketing: Yeah , Ithink you should add {disfmarker} {vocalsound}User Interface: Zero ?Marketing: A cross , or whatever .Yeah , line .Project Manager: Yeah , but you don't you don't actually need them ,User Interface: Maymaybe here ?Industrial Designer: yes .Project Manager: becau b l a lot of remote controls work that ywhen y that you when you fir you push the one first , then you have a couple of seconds{disfmarker}User Interface: Yeah . And then a second .Marketing: No , that's dependent on the television.Project Manager: No , I don't think so .Industrial Designer: Yes , you have televisions , then you have to, you know , you have to uh press {disfmarker}Marketing: I do know so .User Interface: Is it dependingon television ?Project Manager: Nah , I don't think so really ,Marketing: Yeah .Project Manager: becauseyou have a {disfmarker} I know some remote controls that don't have these buttons , but you still can ,know , obviously you can still select the twenty {disfmarker} uh a number in the twenty or in the ten"} {"doc_id":"doc_20","qid":"","text":"Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Project Manager: So in last meeting we have discussed the conceptualdesign and we asked you to prepare a prototype for the for the remote control .User Interface:{vocalsound} Okay .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager:{vocalsound} So {gap} . {vocalsound} So let's see the {disfmarker} what did you prepare .UserInterface: Yeah , so can you go out to the shared folder ? Mm the shared folder .Project Manager: Shshare folder for th your presentation ?User Interface: Yes . We have a presentation .Project Manager:Because I have here {disfmarker}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}User Interface: {vocalsound} Uh{disfmarker} {gap} So I got the participant uh three . W uh {vocalsound} . Three . It's the final design ,yeah .Project Manager: Okay just one {gap} .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}User Interface:{vocalsound} S so so I discussed with Guillaume .Industrial Designer: Mm . {vocalsound} Yeah .UserInterface: Right . {vocalsound} And uh {vocalsound} so we have {vocalsound} {disfmarker} and we weare both agreed on some two versions of the prototypes , because we were no not decided whether wewanted to have an L_C_D_ or not because it's too expensive . So we come up with two versions . Onewith and one without L_C_D_s . Um but both comes with a charger and then detachable and uh or {gap}control module . And detachable big buttons for all people um . So {vocalsound} .Industrial Designer:{vocalsound} S okay so I'll show you the the two prototypes {vocalsound} . Here we have the first onewith the beautiful uh L_C_D_ um display . You you can s here . And you can uh just um browse into thethe navigation menu by uh joystick joystick-like uh button .User Interface: Mm .Industrial Designer: Youcan uh choose the direction and if you just push on it it's considered like a enter function .User Interface:Mm . Mm-hmm .Industrial Designer: You have on the mm on the side here the microphone for the{vocalsound} for the speech recognition system here .User Interface: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer:And here the the switch that control if you want {disfmarker}Project Manager: Why you why you you putit in the the side ?Industrial Designer: Well I I I think uh it's the {disfmarker}Project Manager: It's not agood place maybe {gap} .Industrial Designer: Yeah but {disfmarker}User Interface: No i i it's the allaround camer uh microphone isn't it . The the microphone picks up the speeches from anywhere.Industrial Designer: Yeah .Marketing: Is it an only a single mic or a microphone array ?IndustrialDesigner: Well so it's a microphone array .User Interface: {vocalsound}Project Manager: Oh it's verycostly , microphone array {vocalsound} .Marketing: Mm-hmm .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} NoUserInterface: Yeah {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: it's just a single microphone , and you {disfmarker} I Ithink uh we we put it here because I think when you when you are browsing your L_C_D_ you will beclose to {disfmarker}User Interface: Mm .Marketing: Yeah .Industrial Designer: well it's better to to toplace it here th than here , for instance .User Interface: Yeah {vocalsound} yeah .Marketing: Okay.Industrial Designer: And here is a little switch that control if you want the the speaker uh recognitionsystem to um to be on or off . And uh so this remote control comes up with its charger .Project Manager:How much does it cost this one ?Industrial Designer: Well this this prototype is um made for about uhwell fi fi fifteen fifteen dollarsUser Interface: For the {disfmarker}Project Manager: Fifteen dollars ?UserInterface: Yeah .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} fifteen dollars ,Project Manager: Ah it's above it'sabove the budget .Industrial Designer: but uh well it's not it's not uh {disfmarker} yeah , but uh it's justa prototype and if we uh if we optimises the um the uh {disfmarker} voila .Marketing: The cost would bele reduced .Industrial Designer: Yeah the {gap} and the the production costs we we can achieve uh aboutten dollars . {gap}User Interface: Mm . Hmm .Project Manager: How many b battery is there ?IndustrialDesigner: How many , excuse me ?Project Manager: Battery .Industrial Designer: Well uh f battery , weuse uh about uh {disfmarker}User Interface: Is it n the two A_A_s batteries in it .Industrial Designer:Yeah .User Interface: A_A_ rechargeable batteries .Industrial Designer: Rechargeable of course ,UserInterface: Yeah rechargeable batteries .Industrial Designer: because we have the charger .UserInterface: We have the charger so it's no problem .Industrial Designer: Yeah and you just{disfmarker}Project Manager: So one one battery ?Industrial Designer: On uh yeah one battery.Marketing: Is that two or one ?User Interface: {vocalsound}Project Manager: It's kinetic reserve .User"} {"doc_id":"doc_21","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: So welcome . The first kick-off meeting . What shall we do ? First the opening , then therest . What are we going to do . We m have to make a new remote control .Industrial Designer:{vocalsound}Project Manager: It has to be original , trendy and user-friendly . So we will get back th onthat . First we have to make a functional design . After that we have to make a conceptual design , andthen after that a detailed design . So we'll discuss that later . First we have a look at {gap} . So first to{disfmarker} we have to make a small painting . What have {disfmarker} do we have to do . First youcan save the documents . We have to do that every time we make something . You can print it . No . Andwe have to use {vocalsound} the pen and the eraser . So {disfmarker} Now . We all have to use this one.Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Project Manager: You have to make your own favourite animal.Marketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager: So I'll make an example .Marketing: Yep .Project Manager:First don't touch that things .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound} You canuse the pen . And then you can make {vocalsound} um something .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Nice .Marketing: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound} Um you can change somethings .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Project Manager: Um format , line , and change it . {gap}{disfmarker} {vocalsound} {vocalsound} And you can change the colour .User Interface:{vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: An elephant . {vocalsound}Project Manager:{vocalsound} So that's it . {vocalsound}User Interface: {vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound}ProjectManager: So {disfmarker} So and after it you have to save it .Marketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager:Now we can make a new one .Marketing: Okay .Project Manager: You have to paint now . {vocalsound}So you're next .Marketing: Oh . {vocalsound}User Interface: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: 'Kay.Marketing: Well we will try . Where it going ?Industrial Designer: {gap} .User Interface: Hmm . That'suh strange . {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {gap} .Project Manager: What is going on ?IndustrialDesigner: {gap} pop-ups .Project Manager: What are you {disfmarker} What ?Marketing: Hmm .ProjectManager: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager:{gap} .Marketing: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: What is this , Pictionary .Marketing:{vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Marketing: Uh {disfmarker}Project Manager: Um{disfmarker}Industrial Designer: Uh a bird .Project Manager: Is a {disfmarker} It is a {disfmarker} It isa {disfmarker}Industrial Designer: Bird .Project Manager: A duck .Marketing: {vocalsound}IndustrialDesigner: {vocalsound}Marketing: Mm .Project Manager: {vocalsound}Marketing: So {disfmarker} Nowsave ?Project Manager: Yes .Industrial Designer: Yeah .Project Manager: Hmm .Marketing: Now uh blank?Project Manager: Blank , yes .User Interface: Yeah .Marketing: Yeah .Project Manager: Okay next one .{vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound}User Interface: Okay . Let's try this . Uh {disfmarker}IndustrialDesigner: {vocalsound} Whoo .Marketing: Yeah , yeah .User Interface: {vocalsound} Um . Mm-hmm .Mm .Project Manager: {vocalsound} Oh . {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Oh not . Oh .{vocalsound}User Interface: {vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Okay . Okay .Yeah . No problem .Marketing: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Shit happens . {vocalsound}Marketing:{vocalsound} {vocalsound} I'm not getting anything uh on my screen now . Okay .Industrial Designer: Aparrot . Ish .Marketing: Wow . Oh .Project Manager: {vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound}IndustrialDesigner: He did it before .Marketing: {vocalsound}User Interface: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer:{vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Project Manager:{vocalsound}User Interface: Uh {disfmarker}Project Manager: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}IndustrialDesigner: {vocalsound}User Interface: No , no . Yeah . Okay .Marketing: {vocalsound} Nice .ProjectManager: Very good .Industrial Designer: Oh .User Interface: Uh blank .Industrial Designer: Thank you.Project Manager: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}User Interface: {vocalsound}Marketing:{vocalsound}Project Manager: Okay . Very good . So um you can always go back . {gap} So{disfmarker}Marketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound} That's it . So that was two . Nownext . The budget . The b Uh we will sell the t at twenty five Euros . And we have only twenty of twelveand a half Euro to make it . So {vocalsound} now we have to think about what we will make . First I"} {"doc_id":"doc_22","qid":"","text":"Lynne Neagle AM: Good morning, everyone. Welcome to the Children, Young People and EducationCommittee. We've received apologies for absence from Suzy Davies, and I'm very pleased to welcomeAngela Burns, who is substituting for Suzy this morning. We've also received apologies from DawnBowden. Can I also welcome Siân Gwenllian to the meeting? Siân is joining us from her constituencyoffice via video-conference. Can I ask Members if they've got any declarations of interest, please?Hefin.Hefin David AM: Apologies. I'm currently registered as an associate lecturer at Cardiff MetropolitanUniversity, although I haven't done any work for them for some time.Lynne Neagle AM: Okay. Thank youvery much. We'll move on, then, to item 2 this morning, which is our evidence session on the highereducation new academic year allocations. I'm very pleased to welcome David Blaney, who is chiefexecutive of the Higher Education Funding Council for Wales, and Bethan Owen, who is deputy chiefexecutive of HEFCW. Thank you, both, for attending this morning. We're looking forward to hearing whatyou've got to say. If you're happy, we'll go straight into questions from Members, and the first questionsare from Angela Burns.Angela Burns AM: Good morning. Thank you very much, indeed. I just wanted totalk about, really, the financial sustainability of the higher education sector because, as we know, there'sbeen all sorts of things going on in the press. So, can I just start with, actually, quite a technical questionand ask you what the financial indicators look like for the universities here in Wales, and are thereparticular indicators that are really flashing warning signals to you?Dr David Blaney: Well, shall I juststart with a couple of contextualising comments and Bethan can come in then with some detail? It'sundeniably the case there are financial challenges facing our universities. They result from three maincauses: one is the impact of the demographic dip of 18-year-olds, which is deeper and longer in Walesthan it is elsewhere in the UK. There are increased pension costs and, actually, increased costs generally.And, of course, we also have current uncertainty as a result of the Augar review in England, and whetherthat might play into Wales, and also Brexit. These challenges are not unique to Wales; the majority of theUK universities are actually taking out cost one way or another. So, this is not a Welsh issue. Before theDiamond review of fees and funding in Wales, there was a pre-existing funding gap in resource betweenEngland and Wales, and even now, that's still the case. So, Welsh higher education institutions areapproximately £40 million worse off than they would be in the English system. That's a challenge, andthat is a result from a political decision to invest in students, and that's fine. The money's gone into thesystem but it hasn't gone into universities, necessarily. So, these are serious challenges for institutions tomanage, but I think it is a managed situation. We're not seeing a crisis; we are seeing some realchallenges, and there is a distinction, I think, between—. We have to understand, though, that taking outcost to balance the books has a detrimental effect on the capacity. Obviously it impacts on the peoplewho lose their jobs immediately, but there's a medium to longer term impact on the capacity of thesystem to deliver for Wales. They are taking out capacity; they're not cutting at fat now, they're cuttingout core capacity. And so, the range of the curriculum, the range of research and innovation, the range ofthe contribution that universities can make will be diminished by that. And against that backdrop, theintroduction of the Diamond reforms is hugely important—delivery of that is going to be reallyimportant—and we are really pleased to see the Minister able to meet her commitments in respect ofthat. The Diamond money is coming in. This forthcoming year will be the first year we see an increase inthe resource, through us, to higher education. And the projections in future years are better still, and thatwill be extremely important. The performance of the sector is very good; we had the national studentsurvey results out yesterday. Wales is still the best in the UK, which is excellent. We have the best impactfrom research in Wales across the UK. So, all of that is very positive, but that is also being done at somecost. There are some very tired staff in universities, and we've seen some stuff in the press recentlyabout some of the impact of stress there as well.Angela Burns AM: Can I bring you back to the financialelement of that? Can I just ask a question: what are the university reserves looking like at present?DrDavid Blaney: Here, I refer to my learned friend.Bethan Owen: The reserves are a measure. There's adifference between the distributable reserves—I don't have those numbers before me, but looking at"} {"doc_id":"doc_23","qid":"","text":"Marketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager: Okay .Marketing: {gap} .Project Manager: Right . Okay .Alright . Is everyone here ? {vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound} Yep . {vocalsound}User Interface:Yep .Project Manager: Okay . This is our conceptual design meeting . And {disfmarker} {vocalsound} I'lljust take a few minutes and uh go through the previous minutes . Um then each of you will have yourpresentation , um and then we will need to make a decision on the concept for the remote control . Andthen we'll have uh forty minutes for finishing up . Um {disfmarker} {vocalsound} I'll go through the meethrough the minutes first . Um , we just refreshed our our uh goal of making the finest remote controlavailable .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound} Um we decided that , or weknow that we need to use company colours , company logo . Um {vocalsound} and our Marketing Expertuh gave us some i uh information from interviews with a hundred different remote users . Um with somestatistics that backed basically what we were thinking before . People thought their remotes were ugly ,um um that remotes zap a lot . Um they only use uh a finite amount of buttons .Industrial Designer:{vocalsound}Project Manager: Um and that they often lose the {disfmarker} it's easy to lose a remote .Um which were all things we were thinking we would {disfmarker} wanna make it simple . Um{disfmarker} {vocalsound} And uh some sort of locator . Either a button or tracking device . Um{disfmarker} And that it should look different than what's out there . Um {disfmarker} Kind of mixedmixed response on the speech recognition . The younger people said they wanted it , older people did not. Um uh I think we decided that um the expense was not necessarily worth it , and that it was probably agimmick , that um would increasingly wear on the consumers' nerves . Um {vocalsound} {disfmarker}Then the User Interface Designer um explored some of the technical functions of the remote . Um thesimple versus the um the complex . The simple one being better for a user , the complex better for anengineer . Um {disfmarker} Um and some personal preferences that were found in that would be that itshould be a user-oriented remote , something simple . Um and that we didn't wanna go with a universalremote , because uh increasing cost and increasing complexity . Um we would just have a T_V_ remote .Um and that we should also focus on the appearance of the remote . Have it s be something that looksdifferent . And finally our um Industrial Designer uh gave us a rundown of how the remote will work . Umfrom energy source , um uh what we would use . Batteries because we don't wanna have a a cable . Um{disfmarker} {vocalsound} How that would power the remote and the lamp . If we were to to have one .Uh um the user interface then would connect to a chip , {vocalsound} which would work with the infraredcontrols uh to send the signal to the T_V_ . Um {disfmarker} I believe then we came up with a couple ofideas for what we think the design of the remote will be . Um {disfmarker} {vocalsound} Um somethingthat will fit into uh easily into someone's hand . {vocalsound} And with a , just a few buttons . Just thebasics . And with a scrolling um function also . Okay and I will leave that , leave it at that . So{disfmarker} Marketing ?Marketing: Okay .Project Manager: We're watching trends .Marketing: Yep . CanI have your cable please ?Project Manager: I suppose that you can have this .Industrial Designer:{vocalsound}Marketing: Thanks . Okay so I was looking at trend-watching . Um unfortunately I wasn'tgiven too much information . I was given a brief executive summary , and then an update on some recentfashion trends that we might like to look at . And then I'll just tell you some personal preferences that Igot from that . Um okay the most important finding was that the fancy look-and-feel seems to be twiceas important to the users as the current functional look-and-feel design , which I think we've kind ofalready discussed before . Um the second most important finding was that the remote should betechnologically innovative . And again these are all things we've kind of already come up with on our own, but this just backs it up . And thirdly the remote would be easy to use . As far as fashion update , we'velearned that fruits and vegetables will be the most important theme for cloths , shoes and furniture.Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Marketing: So that might be a bit of a challenge to incorporate thisinto our remote , but we can try . Um and also , as opposed to last year , this year the material isexpected to be spongy in feel . {vocalsound} Okay so from that um , as we've already said , we need tofocus on a fancy look-and-feel . Um I think we've already discovered that it's kind of hard to go away"} {"doc_id":"doc_24","qid":"","text":"User Interface: Hmm .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Project Manager: Good morning everybody.Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Good morning . {vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound}UserInterface: {vocalsound} Good morning .Marketing: Good morning .Project Manager: So , we are asked toto make uh uh a new remote control for television . And the characteristics of this new remote controlshould be original and trendy and of course user user friendly . So people can {gap} can use it withoutany any problem .User Interface: {vocalsound}Project Manager: {gap} .Industrial Designer:{vocalsound}Project Manager: I don't know .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Project Manager:{vocalsound}User Interface: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Well , I think we should setthe the points to to drive the project and uhUser Interface: Mm . B did you send us an email about this?Project Manager: Uh , not yet ,User Interface: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}ProjectManager: but if you want {disfmarker}User Interface: Yeah , we we received an email about this uh ddesigns . {vocalsound}Project Manager: Do you want do you want me to send you a mail ?IndustrialDesigner: {vocalsound}User Interface: {vocalsound} Ah it's Okay . {vocalsound}Project Manager:{vocalsound} Or {disfmarker}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Marketing: Or you can put it in theshared folder .User Interface: Yeah , you see the email ? You {gap} email . The v very {disfmarker} no ,no the first one .Marketing: No , I didn't get it .User Interface: It's inside .Project Manager: Uh{disfmarker}Marketing: This one .User Interface: No , no .Marketing: No .User Interface: The third one .Oh , you didn't get anything .Marketing: No , {gap} .User Interface: It's strange . {vocalsound}{vocalsound} Mm . {vocalsound}Project Manager: {gap} .User Interface: I got an email about the disabout the discussion . Yeah .Project Manager: You get email , {gap} . {vocalsound}User Interface: Idunno from who .Industrial Designer: Yeah , from the account manager .Marketing: {vocalsound}UserInterface: {vocalsound} From the account manager . You have received the same email , right?Industrial Designer: Yeah .User Interface: Yeah .Marketing: I think it's for your guys to {vocalsound}how to design it all the aspects so you need that information .User Interface: Yeah .Industrial Designer:Yeah , I think so .User Interface: Yeah , so each of us has a role to do .Marketing: YeahProject Manager:SMarketing: {vocalsound} I think {gap} assign your uh roles .User Interface: In each{disfmarker}Project Manager: For each for each one .User Interface: We already have our role.Marketing: For each person , yeah .User Interface: {vocalsound} 'Kay , we can {disfmarker}ProjectManager: So there are {disfmarker} so we have three {disfmarker}User Interface: So there are threekinds of designs , that's all .Project Manager: f yeah . We have functional design , conceptual design , anddetail design .User Interface: Okay , alright . {vocalsound}Project Manager: So , who will be the theresponsible for the functional design ? Any any volunteer ?Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} I think ouruh responsibilities will be assigned when we {disfmarker} in our mail we received from the accountmanager .User Interface: {vocalsound} Yeah , yeah .Industrial Designer: UhUser Interface: I'm doing theinterface .Project Manager: You are doing thIndustrial Designer: No , I'm doing the interface .{vocalsound}Project Manager: {gap} .User Interface: Are you using the {disfmarker} you are doing thein {disfmarker}Industrial Designer: Yeah I I'm I'm {disfmarker} Well , maybe we have {disfmarker}okay so I {gap} industrial design . It was a little confusion about my uh {disfmarker}Project Manager:{vocalsound}User Interface: Ah {vocalsound} {disfmarker}Industrial Designer: but it's alright .ProjectManager: Okay , I'll for industrial design .User Interface: Okay .Industrial Designer: Yeah .ProjectManager: Okay . And and you {disfmarker} Norman ?User Interface: Mm ? Um working on i .{vocalsound} User interface . {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: User .Project Manager: And {disfmarker}And {disfmarker}Marketing: Uh , I'm into marketing .Project Manager: {gap} doing the marketing.Marketing: {gap} yeah nothing much in the project .Project Manager: Nothing related here to the{disfmarker}Marketing: Marketing in this design .User Interface: Yes .Marketing: A design is basically forindustrial design and the user interface .Project Manager: {vocalsound}User Interface: You see thesecond mail ? Yeah , it's inside . Go down . Appendix .Marketing: Yeah , this is {gap} .User Interface: Seethere's a role for everybody .Marketing: Yeah , that's right ,User Interface: Even for the marketing"} {"doc_id":"doc_25","qid":"","text":"Postdoc A: OK .Grad G: How about channelProfessor C: Yeah , go ahead .Grad E: We 're recording .GradG: Alright .Professor C: Alright , and no crash .Postdoc A: Hmm .Grad E: I pre - crashed it .Professor C:Yeah .PhD F: Pre - crashed !PhD D: It never crashes on me .Grad E: I think it 's actually {disfmarker}PhDD: What is {disfmarker} what is that ?Grad E: it depends on if the temp files are there or not , that{disfmarker} at least that 's my current working hypothesis ,PhD D: Ah .Grad E: that I think whathappens is it tries to clear the temp files and if they 're too big , it crashes .PhD D: Ah .PhD B: When thepower went out the other day and I restarted it , it crashed the first time .Grad E: Oh , that 's right .PhDB: After the power outPhD D: So then there would be no temp files .Professor C: Yeah .PhD D: OK .{comment} Hmm .Grad E: Uh , no , it doesn't {disfmarker} it doesn't clear those necessarily ,PhD D: Ohwait {disfmarker} It {disfmarker} it doesn't clear them , OK .Grad E: so .Professor C: Hmm , noconnection .Grad E: It 's {disfmarker} i they 're called temp files , but they 're not actually in the tempdirectory they 're in the scratch , so . They 're not backed up , but they 're not erased either on powerfailure .PhD D: But that 's usually the meeting that I recorded , and it neve it doesn't crash on me .PhDB: Well this wasn't {disfmarker} Actually , this wasn't a before your meeting , this was , um , Tuesdayafternoon when , um , uh , Robert just wanted to do a little recording ,Grad E: Oh well .PhD D: Oh{disfmarker} Oh , right .PhD B: and the power had gone out earlier in the day .PhD D: OK . Huh , OK.Professor C: I don't know when would be a good excuse for it , but I just can't wait to be giving a talk tand {disfmarker} and {disfmarker} and use the example from last week with everybody t doing thedigits at once .Grad E: Yeah .Postdoc A: That was fun .Professor C: I 'd love to play somebody that.Postdoc A: That was fun .PhD D: It was quick .Professor C: It was . It was really efficient .PhD B: Talkabout a good noise shield . You know ? You wanted to pe keep people from listening in , you could likehave that playing outside the room . Nobody could listen in .Professor C: Yeah .PhD D: Well , I had thisidea we could make our whole meeting faster that way .Professor C: Yeah . Everybody give the reportsabout what they were doing at exactly the same time ,PhD D: And we 'll just all leave ,PhD B: And thenwe 'll {disfmarker} we 'll go back later and review the individual channels ,Professor C: yeah .PhD D: and{disfmarker}Grad E: Yep , and then everyone can listen to it later .PhD B: right ?Grad E: Yes . Absolutely.PhD B: If you wanna know what {disfmarker}Professor C: Actually isn't that what we have been doing?PhD D: Yeah .Grad E: It 's what it sounds like .PhD B: Practically , huh . With all the overlaps .PostdocA: Yeah .Professor C: What are we doing ?Grad E: I {disfmarker} Since I 've been gone all week , I didn'tsend out a reminder for an agenda , so .Professor C: Yeah , and I 'm just {disfmarker}Grad E: Do wehave anything to talk about or should we just read digits and go ?PhD B: I wouldn't mind hearing how theconference was .Professor C: What conference ?PhD D: Uh , I had one question about {disfmarker}GradE: Yeah , really . It 's all a blur .PhD D: Aren't the UW folks coming this weekend ?Grad E: Yep .PhD F: No. The next ,PhD D: Next weekend ?Grad E: Next weekend , week from {disfmarker}PhD F: right?Professor C: That is right . The next weekend .PhD D: Sorry , not {disfmarker} not {disfmarker} not thedays coming up , but {disfmarker}PhD F: It 's like the {disfmarker}Grad E: A week from Saturday .PhDD: Yeah ,Professor C: That 's when they 're coming .PhD D: within ten days .Professor C: That 's correct.PhD D: So , are we {disfmarker} do we have like an agenda or anything that we should be{disfmarker}Professor C: No , but that would be a good idea .PhD D: OK .Professor C: Why don't wewPhD F: So {disfmarker} so the deal is that I can , um , {vocalsound} uh , I can be available after , uh ,like ten thirty or something . I don't know how s how early you wanted to {disfmarker}Professor C: They're not even gonna be here until eleven or so .Grad E: That 's good .PhD F: Oh , OK . So{disfmarker}Professor C: Cuz they 're flying up that day .PhD D: Wait , this is on {disfmarker} onSunday ?Professor C: Saturday .PhD D: Or Saturday ?Professor C: Saturday .PhD F: Saturday .ProfessorC: S Saturday .PhD D: OK .Grad E: Well , yProfessor C: Yeah .PhD F: Mm - hmm .Grad E: Eurospeech isdue on Friday and then I 'm going down to San {disfmarker} uh , San Jose Friday night , so , if{disfmarker} you know , if we start nice and late Saturday that 's a good thing .Professor C: No , I mean, they 're flying up from {disfmarker} from {disfmarker}Grad E: Seattle .Professor C: down from Seattle"} {"doc_id":"doc_26","qid":"","text":"Professor C: OK . So uh , he 's not here ,PhD D: So .Professor C: so you get to {disfmarker}PhD D: Yeah, I will try to explain the thing that I did this {disfmarker} this week {disfmarker} during this week.Professor C: Yeah .PhD D: Well eh you know that I work {disfmarker} I begin to work with a new featureto detect voice - unvoice .PhD E: Mm - hmm .PhD D: What I trying two MLP to {disfmarker} to the{disfmarker} with this new feature and the fifteen feature uh from the eh bus base systemPhD E: The{disfmarker} the mel cepstrum ?PhD D: No , satly the mes the Mel Cepstrum , the new base system{disfmarker} the new base system .PhD E: Oh the {disfmarker}PhD D: Yeah , we {disfmarker}PhD E:OK , the Aurora system .PhD D: yeah the Aurora system with the new filter , VAD or something like that.PhD E: OK .PhD D: And I 'm trying two MLP , one one that only have t three output , voice , unvoice ,and silence ,Professor C: Mm - hmm .PhD D: and other one that have fifty - six output . The probabilitiesof the allophone . And I tried to do some experiment of recognition with that and only have result with{disfmarker} with the MLP with the three output . And I put together the fifteen features and the threeMLP output . And , well , the result are li a little bit better , but more or less similar .Professor C: Uh , I{disfmarker} I 'm {disfmarker} I 'm slightly confused .PhD E: Hmm .Professor C: What {disfmarker}what feeds the uh {disfmarker} the three - output net ?PhD D: Voice , unvoice , and siProfessor C: No no, what feeds it ? What features does it see ?PhD D: The feature {disfmarker} the input ? The inputs arethe fifteen {disfmarker} the fifteen uh bases feature .Professor C: Uh - huh .PhD D: the {disfmarker}with the new code . And the other three features are R , the variance of the difference between the twospectrum ,Professor C: Uh - huh .PhD D: the variance of the auto - correlation function , except the{disfmarker} the first point , because half the height value is R - zeroProfessor C: Mm - hmm . Mm -hmm . Mm - hmm . Mm - hmm .PhD D: and also R - zero , the first coefficient of the auto - correlationfunction . That is like the energy with these three feature ,Professor C: Right .PhD D: also these threefeature .Professor C: You wouldn't do like R - one over R - zero or something like that ? I mean usuallyfor voiced - unvoiced you 'd do {disfmarker} yeah , you 'd do something {disfmarker} you 'd doenergyPhD D: Yeah .Professor C: but then you have something like spectral slope , which is you get like R- one ov over R - zero or something like that .PhD D: Uh yeah .PhD E: What are the R 's ?Professor C: Rcorrelations .PhD E: I 'm sorry I missed it .PhD D: No , R c No .PhD E: Oh .PhD D: Auto - correlation ? Yes, yes , the variance of the auto - correlation function that uses thatProfessor C: Ye - Well that 's thevariance , but if you just say \" what is {disfmarker} \" I mean , to first order , um yeah one of thedifferences between voiced , unvoiced and silence is energy . Another one is {disfmarker} but the otherone is the spectral shape .PhD D: Yeah , I I 'll {disfmarker} The spectral shape ,Professor C: Yeah , andso R - one over R - zero is what you typically use for that .PhD D: yeah . No , I don't use that{disfmarker} I can't use {disfmarker}Professor C: No , I 'm saying that 's what people us typically use.PhD D: Mmm .Professor C: See , because it {disfmarker} because this is {disfmarker} this is just like asingle number to tell you um \" does the spectrum look like that or does it look like that \" .PhD D: Mm -hmm .Grad A: Oh . R {disfmarker} R {disfmarker} R - zero .Professor C: Right ?PhD D: Mm - hmm.Professor C: So if it 's {disfmarker} if it 's um {disfmarker} if it 's low energy uh but the {disfmarker}but the spectrum looks like that or like that , it 's probably silence .PhD D: Mm - hmm .Professor C: Uhbut if it 's low energy and the spectrum looks like that , it 's probably unvoiced .PhD D: Yeah .Professor C:So if you just {disfmarker} if you just had to pick two features to determine voiced - unvoiced , you 'dpick something about the spectrum like uh R - one over R - zero , um and R - zeroPhD D: Mm - hmm ,OK .Professor C: or i i you know you 'd have some other energy measure and like in the old days peopledid like uh zero crossing counts .PhD D: Yeah , yeah .Professor C: Right . S SPhD D: Well , I can also thuse this .Professor C: Yeah . Um ,PhD D: Bec - because the result are a little bit better but we have in apoint that everything is more or less the similar {disfmarker} more or less similar .Professor C: Yeah .But umPhD D: It 's not quite better .Professor C: Right , but it seemed to me that what you were whatyou were getting at before was that there is something about the difference between the original signal orthe original FFT and with the filter which is what {disfmarker} and the variance was one take uh on it"} {"doc_id":"doc_27","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: Okay . Hi Team . Hope you had a good lunch .Marketing: {gap}Project Manager:{vocalsound} Okay we're back for the conceptual design meeting . Um let's get started . 'Kay , here isthe agenda for today's meeting . Um we're gonna open it and I'm gonna keep the minutes as ProjectManager . We're gonna have three presentations , one from each of you again . And then we are going tocome to decision on the remote control concepts and then we're gonna close it up . And we have fortyminutes again . 'Kay , and just to reiterate um after this meeting the team will reach a decision on theconcepts of the remote control . Okay . Let's go ahead and start off with your presentations . Who wouldlike to go first ?Industrial Designer: Just trying to move mine right now .Project Manager: Okay . UmCourtney would you mind starting us off ?Marketing: Yeah {gap} .Project Manager: Okay . Trendwatching ? 'Kay .Marketing: Yeah . Okay , so trend watching . Uh since we do put the fashion inelectronics , it is kind of important how our product looks . So I guess we can go ahead and go to thenext . So what they want . Right now customers want fancy versus functional . Um basically about fiftyeight percent of what they {disfmarker} like of the product that they want , describing like the{disfmarker} in order of how much they want , fifty eight per cent of the decision of what it should looklike , fancy versus functional , and then it has to also be technologically innovative , and yet easy to use .So the customer basically is confused . They don't know exactly what they want . They want us to tellthem . {gap}Industrial Designer: They want everything , but simply .Marketing: Yes . Exactly .IndustrialDesigner: {vocalsound} Okay .Marketing: So we can go to next .Project Manager: Mm 'kay .Marketing:Okay . So in Milan and Paris recently the trends have been showing that clothing , shoes and furniture arebasically just covered with fruits and vegetable patterns .Project Manager: {vocalsound}IndustrialDesigner: {vocalsound}Marketing: So I don't know if we want to go with that um and also the spongyfeel is in in contrast to last year . I don't know really , I mean I guess the spongy could relate to thebuttons if we want toProject Manager: Mm . Mm .Marketing: rather than like a hard clicky button that youfind on like some mobiles and stuff , you'd want like a softer touch . I mean do you guys know what Imean .Project Manager: Right . Yes .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yeah thMarketing: Yeah . Um .But as for the fruits and vegetable patterns , I don't know if we really want to go with that , because it isjust a trend ,Project Manager: Right .Marketing: and our product we want to stay around for much longerthan just a few months ,Project Manager: Right . People don't buy a new remote every so often.Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} I I can {disfmarker}Marketing: because {disfmarker} Yeah . I meanthat could just be a Spring thing right now .Industrial Designer: I can address some of that issue , I think, with uh my presentation .Marketing: Okay . Awesome .Project Manager: Okay .Marketing: Um so designpreferences , um we need easy to read like large buttons , clearly labelled so that , I mean 'cause wetalked about that being a problem . Um and then also buttons illuminating upon touch , you said that inyour design , with the bulb . Um and that could also tie in with the colour scheme . Uh we need the RealReaction logo and colour scheme obviously . That's one of our key goals , we wanna promote our product.User Interface: {gap}Marketing: And I was thinking about different types of designs and I came up withsomething . Actually right here . So what we could do is something like an old-fashioned telephone likethis , where we put the buttons around , like we'd put a big on-off button or something else in the middle, I mean it could be the arrows or whatever for channel up and down , and then put the numbers aroundin like an old-fashioned dial shape . 'Cause then it'll appeal to older generation and like said retro's cool .So it's classically retro .Project Manager: Hmm .Marketing: So I mean that's just an idea if you guys likeit .Project Manager: Very good . I like it . {vocalsound} Okay , ready for the next slide ?Marketing:{vocalsound} And , yep . And that's it . {vocalsound}Project Manager: Op mm 'kay .Industrial Designer:{vocalsound} Okay .Project Manager: Great . Great presentation . Ready ?User Interface: Okay hang on.Project Manager: 'Kay .User Interface: See if it's there . {vocalsound}Project Manager: Which one is it?User Interface: {vocalsound} I don't know . Hang on .Project Manager: {gap}User Interface: Interfaceconcepts , no ?Project Manager: Interface concepts new .User Interface: Either refresh it , or it sh{disfmarker}Project Manager: YUser Interface: Oh wait , maybe I didn't put it there . Hang on .Project"} {"doc_id":"doc_28","qid":"","text":"Marketing: {vocalsound} Hello . {vocalsound}Project Manager: {gap}Marketing: {vocalsound} Dang it.Project Manager: {vocalsound} And then you have to place your laptop exactly on the marked spot.Marketing: Alright .User Interface: {gap}Project Manager: It's important to place your laptop exactly onthe marked spot over here .User Interface: Okay . No , that's okay . Joost , your mouse .Marketing: What?User Interface: No mouse needed ?Marketing: I've got a touch-pad .User Interface: Mm .Marketing: Doyou know how how I can wake it up ?User Interface: A touch-pad ?Marketing: No , my laptop .UserInterface: Slap it .Marketing: {vocalsound} You with your brilliant ideas . I don't know if I can touch thepower button . Do you know how how I can wake it up ?User Interface: Is {disfmarker}Project Manager:No . Yeah . Try the power button .Marketing: Oh .User Interface: {vocalsound}Marketing: Come on ,move it .User Interface: Um {disfmarker}Marketing: Now , wake up , bitch .Project Manager: Huh .UserInterface: F_ five . F_ five {gap} .Industrial Designer: I've lost my screen . Uh {disfmarker}{vocalsound}Marketing: Yeah , so did I .User Interface: I don't .Marketing: I closed it . That wasn thatwasn't very smart , I guess .User Interface: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Marketing:Come on . Get back to me . Yes .Industrial Designer: Yes .User Interface: {vocalsound}IndustrialDesigner: I closed the {disfmarker}Marketing: I closed it .User Interface: You've got your name .{vocalsound}Project Manager: Yeah , my name is name .Marketing: No , I didn't restart it , I just closedit . Yes .User Interface: Hope it working .Marketing: Alright .Industrial Designer: No .User Interface:Never close your laptop .Project Manager: Yeah ? Everybody's ready ?User Interface: Yeah .Marketing:Great . Thanks .Project Manager: Great . Well , welcome to the kick-off meeting . I uh forgot to put myname over here , it's uh {vocalsound} it's Martin . Uh , so you all know .Marketing: {vocalsound}ProjectManager: Well , this is the agenda for today . Well , the opening is what I'm doing right now .UserInterface: {vocalsound}Project Manager: Uh , we gonna do some acquaintance acquaintance things . Uhgive some um examples of the tool training , project plan discussion and the closing . We have twentyfive minutes . Okay , the project aim is to design a new remote control .Marketing: Mm-hmm .ProjectManager: Uh , some of the {vocalsound} oje objectives are that is has to be original , trendy , anduser-friendly . So now we all know what ourUser Interface: Okay .Project Manager: goal is . Um , I{disfmarker} oh forget {disfmarker} I forget the whole acquaintance part , but we we all know eachother . We all know each other's names . Joost , Guido , Antek .User Interface: What is your name?Marketing: Yes .Industrial Designer: Yes . Antek .User Interface: Antek Ahmet . And Joost .{gap}Project Manager: Okay . I think we uh al already uh been through that part .User Interface: Okay .Yeah .Project Manager: Okay , it consists of uh three levels of design . Uh we begin with the functionaldesign , then we go to the conceptual design and the detailed design . Every uh level of design consists ofsome individual work , and we uh close it with a meeting . You all received an email with a example of ourexplanation of what uh the particular level of design uh means to the different uh functions , and uh youp you probably read that already , so I don't have to tell you about that .User Interface: Yes .Marketing:Yes .Project Manager: Okay , first we're gonna um uh gonna try some different things with the tools wehave over here , so you get acquainted with these uh um uh meeting tools . We have the smart-boards ,uh the thes those two boards . This is the presentation boards , wh which one I'm using right now . Youcan uh um {disfmarker} there's a document folder called um the sh {vocalsound} shared documentfolder . You can upload your uh documents to that folder and then you can open them over here , so youcan do your PowerPoint presentations on this screen . We also have the white-board . Uh , we're gonnaskip through thUser Interface: Can we see the white-board on our laptops ?Project Manager: No , no .Just on the on the screen over there .User Interface: No , I saw I saw the file , the smart-board thatX_B_K_ but {disfmarker}Project Manager: Oh , no . Probably is , but I don't know if the software is onthe laptop {gap} . Is is {disfmarker} if it's mainly a thing for in the meeting , so I don't think it's{disfmarker} I don't know if it's important .User Interface: Okay .Project Manager: This an explanation ofthe smart-boards . There is a tool-bar over here . It's quite simple . You have the the pen function ,eraser function . It's like a very simple uh paint application . Uh , we {disfmarker} well , we use the same"} {"doc_id":"doc_29","qid":"","text":"User Interface: Oops .Project Manager: So , hello everyone . {vocalsound} We're here to have a kick-offmeeting for the design of a {disfmarker} f for the beginning of new project um {vocalsound} uh remotecontrol for the design for a new remote control {vocalsound} . I'm the Project Manager Christa Pavlovand {vocalsound} okay let's begin . {vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager:{vocalsound} So I'm first going to do an opening then we get used to one anothers and we speak aboutthis tool we're going to design and try to make a project plan , some discussion and then we talk of uhthe next meeting . So um we want to to do a new remote control . It has to be original , trendy and userfriendly .Marketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager: Um I think the important points we have to t talkabout are uh it's functional design , it's conceptual design , and desail detailed design . {gap} and forthat we're going um all to work individually and then have meeting during the whole day . Um , so{vocalsound} let's try the whiteboard {vocalsound} .Marketing: {vocalsound} {vocalsound} Wow .{vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound} Um so any of you who want to go .User Interface: Yeah ,for favourite animals .Project Manager: {vocalsound}User Interface: It's gonna be not my favourite onebut the one I can draw .Project Manager: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}User Interface:{vocalsound} And it's gonna be {disfmarker} you'll try to guess .Marketing: Wow . {vocalsound}{vocalsound} Complex .Project Manager: Wow . {vocalsound}Industrial Designer:{vocalsound}Marketing: Huh ? A cat .Project Manager: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: No .{vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound}User Interface: No . {vocalsound}Industrial Designer:{vocalsound}Marketing: No . Darn . {vocalsound} Uh .Project Manager: A rabbit .User Interface: Yes ,that's a rabbit .Project Manager: {vocalsound} A rabbit .User Interface: That's my favourite one.Marketing: A what ?Industrial Designer: Rabbit .Marketing: A r a rabbit , oh oh yeah , where is the carrot? {vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound}User Interface: {vocalsound} That's it .Marketing: Okay{vocalsound} mm-hmm .Project Manager: You want to go ?Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Marketing:I am not very good at uh {vocalsound} this kind of stuff .User Interface: Hmm . {vocalsound}IndustrialDesigner: {vocalsound}Marketing: My favourite animal is {disfmarker} {vocalsound}Project Manager:{vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} You waMarketing: {vocalsound}User Interface: Wow .{vocalsound}Project Manager: A humanIndustrial Designer: {vocalsound}Marketing: Guess .ProjectManager: {vocalsound} ah .Marketing: {vocalsound} A human , yay . It's a very complex animal{vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}User Interface: No.Marketing: and um {disfmarker} yeah . Characteristics of this this animal is {vocalsound} dangerous .{vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Project Manager: Mm Ithink you're supposed to , yeah .Industrial Designer: Is the white {disfmarker} okay .Project Manager:Hmm .Industrial Designer: I guess you can {disfmarker} {vocalsound} {gap} . {vocalsound}ProjectManager: {vocalsound}User Interface: Wow . That's cobra .Marketing: Ah , a kind of uh snake ? Cobra?Industrial Designer: Yeah uh not really .Marketing: Exactly {vocalsound} . {vocalsound}IndustrialDesigner: {vocalsound} Small cobra . {vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound}User Interface: No , itjust {disfmarker} small cobra , yeah .Project Manager: {vocalsound} Is that a worm ? Or {vocalsound}{disfmarker} {vocalsound}Marketing: Uh-huh . {vocalsound}User Interface: It's co c quite recognisable .{vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound}What about you uh {vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound} Uh yeah Christa Pavlov {vocalsound}Mm .Marketing: Christa ? {vocalsound}User Interface: Christa {vocalsound} Christa .Industrial Designer:Chris . {vocalsound}Marketing: A fish . {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Mm .User Interface: Hmm.Project Manager: Smiling fish {vocalsound} .Industrial Designer: Smile fish . {vocalsound}UserInterface: {vocalsound} Okay .Marketing: A smiling fish . {vocalsound} Mm-hmm .Project Manager:Mm-hmm .Marketing: So , w whiteboard is working ? {vocalsound}Project Manager: Yeah .{vocalsound}User Interface: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Yeah . {vocalsound}Marketing: Good .{vocalsound} Next . {vocalsound}Project Manager: Next . Let's talk about money .User Interface: Just trtry to guess who is a User Interface Designer .Marketing: {vocalsound} Yeah , well ."} {"doc_id":"doc_30","qid":"","text":"User Interface: Okay .Industrial Designer: Okay , almost there .Project Manager: Okay . We'll sta I'll usethe PowerPoint , I guess . How was that , was that fun ?User Interface: Mm . Very fun .IndustrialDesigner: Yeah , yeah .Project Manager: {vocalsound} Okay . Uh oh I've forgotten to mail you theminutes , but I will do .Industrial Designer: Okay .Marketing: Hmm .Project Manager: {vocalsound}Upsidaisy . {vocalsound} Um {vocalsound} {vocalsound} Um we {disfmarker}Marketing: E excuse me Iforgot myProject Manager: Yeah .Marketing: copy . {gap}Project Manager: Alright , okay , yeah.Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Project Manager: He's gonna get his pen .User Interface: Oh right .Okay .Project Manager: Um {vocalsound} Will you guys first with your prototype um before we get to thegood news ?Industrial Designer: Yeah , there's good news ?Project Manager: Uh {vocalsound}{vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Oh .User Interface: Mm .Project Manager: we have budget problems.Industrial Designer: Oh . Cutbacks .Project Manager: I'm afraid you're all sacked . Oops .IndustrialDesigner: {vocalsound}Project Manager: I don't even have this on . {vocalsound}Industrial Designer:Hmm .Project Manager: {vocalsound} {vocalsound} Okay , have you got a presentation to make?Industrial Designer: Okay .Marketing: No , not mine yet .Project Manager: No . OkayIndustrial Designer:Oh .Project Manager: so it's just your your show .Industrial Designer: Um maybe we should bring {gap}so that the camera can see {gap} . Yeah .Project Manager: {vocalsound}User Interface: Okay . Sure.Industrial Designer: Okay .Project Manager: {vocalsound}User Interface: We made three for you.Project Manager: Three ? Oh .User Interface: Um one's based on the banana , one's based on thetomatoProject Manager: Tomato ? What tomato ? {vocalsound}User Interface: and the other one isstMarketing: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Project Manager: I don't recall a tomato .{vocalsound}User Interface: Look . Oh yeah , well yeah , we had v some red left over .Project Manager:Ah I see , okay . {vocalsound}User Interface: So . Okay , so this is the um non to non uh no buttons one, or as mm few buttons as possible ,Project Manager: Mm-hmm .User Interface: mainly speak recognition. The yellow there is the umProject Manager: Logo .User Interface: the slogan , yeah ,Project Manager:Okay , brilliant .User Interface: that we need to incorporate , it's very simple . If you do need buttons ,you can flip it over , and there's some there ,Project Manager: Okay .User Interface: um but mainly it'sspeech recognition .Project Manager: Okay , so the buttons would be like , you know individual users , or{disfmarker}User Interface: Yeah .Project Manager: Yeah .User Interface: Yeah and {vocalsound} yeahthey might project things onto the screen which you can do on there .Project Manager: Alright , okay.User Interface: Mm I'm not sure about that . Um and this one is the one w more like the one w that welooked at earlier .Project Manager: Right .User Interface: {vocalsound} Yeah , you guys can have a lookat that if you want .Project Manager: That's groovy . {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {gap}Marketing:Yeah . {vocalsound} Uh can I have {gap}Project Manager: {vocalsound} Well I like the feel of it , I likethe feel of it .User Interface: Yeah , sure . Um that one is {disfmarker}Marketing: Oh sorry s{vocalsound}User Interface: Oh no , it's delicate .Project Manager: At Oh dear .Industrial Designer:{vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound}User Interface: That's that's already got its stand that one . That'sit stand .Project Manager: Alright , okay .User Interface: It does also lie flat , but that's the that yellowstand there represents the the charging stand .Project Manager: Okay , brilliant mm .User Interface: Umthe black on the back is the slogan .Project Manager: Okay , nice and obvious there {vocalsound} ,UserInterface: Uh yeah , that {gap} {disfmarker}Marketing: {vocalsound}User Interface: Well , we did thinkof that .Project Manager: if it's standing up , I guess , yeah .User Interface: Yeah , if it's standing up it'sit's on there , but also we're gonna have the company name on the front , which is the little black kind ofline in the middle .Project Manager: Oh right , okay , brilliant . Like that from its centre .User Interface:So um and that's the um transmit the L_E_D_ thing . These are the s two scroll ones which we thoughtcould be channel up and down and volume up and down . We n were weren't sure about putting themthere , because um i it's it kind of could get bashed .Project Manager: Where you're , yeah , uh wereyou're holding it kind of {disfmarker}User Interface: Yeah . Well , if you hold it , you can {disfmarker}you all can hold it , is {disfmarker} it does actually feel quite ergonomic ,Project Manager: Mm-hmm"} {"doc_id":"doc_31","qid":"","text":"Professor A: We 're going ? OK . Sh - Close your door on {disfmarker} door on the way out ?Grad B: OK .Thanks .Professor A: Thanks .Grad B: Oh .Professor A: Yeah . Probably wanna get this other door , too .OK . So . Um . {vocalsound} {vocalsound} What are we talking about today ?PhD E: Uh , well , firstthere are perhaps these uh Meeting Recorder digits that we tested .Professor A: Oh , yeah . That waskind of uh interesting .PhD E: So .Professor A: The {disfmarker} both the uh {disfmarker} {vocalsound}the SRI System and the othPhD E: Um .Professor A: And for one thing that {disfmarker} that sure showsthe {vocalsound} difference between having a lot of uh training data {vocalsound} or not ,PhD E: Of data? Yeah .Professor A: uh , the uh {disfmarker} {vocalsound} The best kind of number we have on theEnglish uh {disfmarker} on near microphone only is {disfmarker} is uh three or four percent .PhD E: Mm- hmm .Professor A: And uh it 's significantly better than that , using fairly simple front - ends{vocalsound} on {disfmarker} {vocalsound} on the uh {disfmarker} {vocalsound} uh , with the SRIsystem .PhD E: Mm - hmm .Professor A: So I th I think that the uh {disfmarker} But that 's {disfmarker}that 's using uh a {disfmarker} a pretty huge amount of data , mostly not digits , of course , but{disfmarker} but then again {disfmarker} Well , yeah . In fact , mostly not digits for the actual trainingthe H M Ms whereas uh in this case we 're just using digits for training the H MPhD E: Yeah . Right.Professor A: Did anybody mention about whether the {disfmarker} the SRI system is a {disfmarker}{vocalsound} is {disfmarker} is doing the digits um the wor as a word model or as uh a sub s sub -phone states ?PhD E: I guess it 's {disfmarker} it 's uh allophone models ,Professor A: Yeah . Probably.PhD E: so , well {disfmarker}Professor A: Huh ?PhD E: Yeah . I think so , because it 's their very d huge, their huge system .Professor A: Yeah .PhD E: And . But . So . There is one difference {disfmarker} Well, the SRI system {disfmarker} the result for the SRI system that are represented here are withadaptation . So there is {disfmarker} It 's their complete system and {disfmarker} including on - line uhunsupervised adaptation .Professor A: That 's true .PhD E: And if you don't use adaptation , the error rateis around fifty percent worse , I think , if I remember .Professor A: OK .PhD E: Yeah .Professor A: It 's thait 's that much , huh ?PhD E: Nnn . It 's {disfmarker} Yeah . It 's quite significant .Professor A: Oh . OK.PhD E: Yeah .Professor A: Still .PhD E: Mm - hmm .Professor A: But {disfmarker} but uh what{disfmarker} what I think I 'd be interested to do given that , is that we {disfmarker} we should uh{vocalsound} take {disfmarker} I guess that somebody 's gonna do this , right ? {disfmarker} is to takesome of these tandem things and feed it into the SRI system , right ?PhD E: Yeah .Professor A: Yeah.PhD E: We can do something like that .Professor A: Yeah . Because {disfmarker}PhD E: Yeah . But{disfmarker} But I guess the main point is the data because uh {vocalsound} I am not sure . Our back -end is {disfmarker} is fairly simple but until now , well , the attempts to improve it or {disfmarker} havefail Ah , well , I mean uh what Chuck tried to {disfmarker} to {disfmarker} to doProfessor A: Yeah , buthe 's doing it with the same data , right ? I mean so to {disfmarker} {vocalsound} So there 's{disfmarker} there 's {disfmarker} there 's two things being affected .PhD E: Yeah . So it 's {disfmarker}Yeah .Professor A: I mean . One is that {disfmarker} that , you know , there 's something simple that 'swrong with the back - end . We 've been playing a number of statesPhD E: Mm - hmm .Professor A: uh I{disfmarker} I don't know if he got to the point of playing with the uh number of Gaussians yetPhD E:Mm - hmm .Professor A: but {disfmarker} but uh , uh , you know . But , yeah , so far he hadn't gottenany big improvement ,PhD E: Mm - hmm .Professor A: but that 's all with the same amount of data whichis pretty small .PhD E: Yeah .Professor A: And um .PhD E: Mmm . So , yeah , we could retrain some ofthese tandem on {disfmarker} on huge {disfmarker}Professor A: Well , you could do that , but I 'msaying even with it not {disfmarker} with that part not retrained , just {disfmarker} just using{disfmarker} having the H M Ms {disfmarker} much better H MPhD E: Ah , yeah . Just {disfmarker} f forthe HMM models .Professor A: Yeah .PhD E: Yeah . Mm - hmm . Mm - hmm .Professor A: Um .{vocalsound} But just train those H M Ms using different features , the features coming from our Aurorastuff .PhD E: Yeah .Professor A: So .PhD E: Yeah . But {vocalsound} what would be interesting to seealso is what {disfmarker} what {disfmarker} perhaps it 's not related , the amount of data but the um"} {"doc_id":"doc_32","qid":"","text":"User Interface: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound}User Interface: Mm uh .Marketing:{vocalsound} {gap} We're the first .User Interface: Mm . We're the first ones . {vocalsound}Marketing:Marketing Expert , yes .Project Manager: Mm .Marketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager: So you foundyour spots .Marketing: Yes .User Interface: {vocalsound} Move to the meeting room .{vocalsound}Marketing: Bling bling . {vocalsound} Yeah .User Interface: Okay .Marketing: Right .{vocalsound}Project Manager: Okay .Marketing: Uh {vocalsound} where has my screen gone ?IndustrialDesigner: Hi .User Interface: Hello , good day . {vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound}IndustrialDesigner: Oh yeah , we have to talk in English ,Marketing: Hmm .Industrial Designer: huh .UserInterface: Yep .Marketing: Yeah . My screen is gone .Project Manager: It's called black .{vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound} Oh .User Interface: Kick-off meeting , wow . It's uh looks uh nice.Industrial Designer: I'm afraid I'm a bit slow for this stuff uh .Project Manager: {vocalsound} Okay .UserInterface: Hmm ?Marketing: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: I'm afraid I'm a bit too slow .{vocalsound} I don't know how much preparation you guys did ,User Interface: Yeah .IndustrialDesigner: but not a lot .Marketing: Yeah .User Interface: No , it's {disfmarker} it was uh not enough.Project Manager: You see this beautiful presentation .Marketing: Yeah . Very nice .Project Manager:Okay let's get started .Marketing: Yeah .Project Manager: Uh I sort of prepared this .User Interface:{vocalsound}Project Manager: Uh opening acquaintance , tool training , uh how to use the things here .Uh project plan discussion , and yeah then the rest of the meeting .Marketing: Mm .Industrial Designer:Mm-hmm .Project Manager: Um we're supposed to develop a new remote control , that's both original ,trendy and user-friendly . So ,Marketing: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}Project Manager: hope you havegood ideas . I don't . {vocalsound}User Interface: {vocalsound} I did my best .Project Manager: Umwe're work we're working uh from top to bottom . Uh functional design ,Industrial Designer: Not yet.Project Manager: then we do some in individual work , then we have a meeting to discuss the results ,etcetera etcetera . And at the end of the day we should have a prototype drawn up . Uh we haveavailable the smart board and the whiteboard . Um uh we should take some practice . I have someinstructions now to do that .Marketing: Yeah .Project Manager: Uh well you know how to {disfmarker}the documents work . So {disfmarker} Uh this for toolbar . You see it next . Um we have a pen . And wecan use this pen to perform . {vocalsound}User Interface: {vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound}ProjectManager: Yes .Industrial Designer: Operations .Project Manager: So {disfmarker}User Interface:{vocalsound}Project Manager: It doesn't always work . Yes .Marketing: Yeah .Project Manager: Okay soyou can draw .Marketing: Draw . Alright .Project Manager: Okay and in the format menu you can selectcolour and line width , etcetera etcetera . Okay ?Marketing: 'Kay .Project Manager: Uh {disfmarker}Okay . Each of you can uh take some practice and you should draw an animal . Uh you should explain{disfmarker} Uh with different colours and with different pen widths .User Interface:{vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Project Manager: And you should explain why you drawthat particular animal .User Interface: {vocalsound} Okay .Marketing: {vocalsound} Don't take up toomuch space . {vocalsound}Project Manager: So , Julian .User Interface: Um yeah .Industrial Designer:Different pen widths , how do you do that ?User Interface: {vocalsound}Project Manager: Uh with theformat menu .Industrial Designer: Oh okay .Project Manager: And use different colours etcetera .UserInterface: {vocalsound} It's a giraffe . Yeah .Project Manager: And {vocalsound} what's that supposed tobe ? {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Are you serious ?Marketing: {vocalsound} Should it be one{disfmarker}Project Manager: Oh yeah . {vocalsound} Oh yeahUser Interface: {vocalsound} Okay.Project Manager: four legs . Uh-huh . {vocalsound}Marketing: Giraffe's yellow . {vocalsound}UserInterface: Uh it needs some uh some yellow uh {disfmarker} Oh format .Marketing: Can you use oneblank sheet per drawing ? OrProject Manager: Yeah .Marketing: so y you must save it at the endProjectManager: YeahMarketing: and then {disfmarker}Project Manager: you can press the next button , whichis uh {disfmarker} yeah . I'll show you .User Interface: That's some spots .Industrial Designer: I in thefile option menu .Project Manager: Yeah . In file menu .Marketing: Okay ,User Interface: No .Marketing:"} {"doc_id":"doc_33","qid":"","text":"Lynne Neagle AM: Good morning, everyone. Welcome to the Children, Young People and EducationCommittee. We've received no apologies, although Dawn Bowden is running late. I'll take this opportunityto welcome Dawn formally to the committee but also to place on record our thanks to John Griffiths forhis service to the committee. Are there any declarations of interest, please? No. Okay. Item 2, then, thismorning is a scrutiny session with a focus on higher and further education. I'm very pleased to welcomeKirsty Williams, Cabinet Secretary for Education, Eluned Morgan, Minister for Welsh Language andLifelong Learning, and Huw Morris, who is the group director of skills, higher education and lifelonglearning. Thank you all for your attendance this morning. If you're okay with it, we'll go straight intoquestions. The first questions are from Suzy Davies.Suzy Davies AM: Thank you, Chair. If we can juststart with teacher training and teacher training for secondary school teachers in particular, obviouslythere's been what looks like a trend in recent years in filling the places for secondary school training.Obviously, this is at Welsh teacher training centres. Do you think there's still a problem recruitingteachers into the 300 priority places, or is there a trend where things are getting better?Kirsty WilliamsAM: Thank you, Suzy. I think, for this year's intake, although we're in touch with our providers, we're notin a position to be able to give figures for this year's intake for a couple of months. But what we haveseen over recent years is that we are only recruiting to about 65 per cent of those targets. So, there isstill a job of work to do to understand and to respond to those needs. So, what we're doing is first of allmaking sure that our ITE provision is world class, so that, actually, Welsh centres are the place to go totrain to be a teacher. You'll be aware that we've recently been through an accreditation process for newITE provision that will start in the next academic year. We have looked at financial incentives. It's not thewhole answer, I think, to these issues, but it's part of a mixture of things that we need to do. You'll beaware that, for priority subjects, with graduates with the very highest levels of qualifications, thosefinancial incentives are now £20,000 a year. We're also embarking on our first ever national ITErecruitment marketing exercise. We have initially done some work in the last year specifically targetingWelsh students in studying for priority subject degrees, e-mailing them, sending them materials to askthem to consider (1) becoming a teacher, and (2) crucially coming to do that training here in Wales. Weare now part of a full national programme of ITE recruitment, giving people that idea that you can serveyour nation and your community by training to be a teacher. So, there's a whole package of things weneed to do. In January of this year I set up an advisory board on the recruitment and retention ofteaching staff, and we are awaiting some reports from that advisory group on what they feel that weshould do next.Suzy Davies AM: Thank you for that answer. I can see there's a lot of activity, but whatexactly is it responding to? Presumably, some research has been done about why people don't want tobecome teachers so that the answers you come up with are appropriate answers. I can't believe it's justabout ITE, although this is very valuable, what you're talking about. Is there something that's runningthrough our younger learners at the moment that makes them think that teaching isn't a profession theywant to go into? Is that something that's happening just in Wales or is it happening elsewhere aswell?Kirsty Williams AM: No. I think what you will find is that this isn't a uniquely Welsh issue. I thinkthey are suffering quite acute problems across the border, which proves to me that money isn'tnecessarily the entire answer, because, despite higher financial incentives to join ITE courses, they're notable to do that in England either. So, that proves to me—what the research does show—that it's notmoney alone that will get people onto these courses. Interestingly, I don't even think it's a UK problem.Recently, as you'll be aware via my written statement, I attended the Atlantic Rim Collaboratory, which isa system-to-system conference. If you talk to education systems in different parts of the world, the onecommon factor that we are all grappling with is teacher recruitment and retention. In the USA, they haveseen a 40 per cent drop in the number of students training to be teachers. So, in the Californian system,significant teacher shortages, and in Oregon, Washington. I met with New York state—significant teacherrecruitment and retention problems in New York state, and in Finland, Australia. So, this is a commonissue across the globe, really. That's why we set up the advisory group under the chairmanship of"} {"doc_id":"doc_34","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: {vocalsound} Good to see you all again . Let's see if that comes up . This is ourfunctional design meeting . Um . Just a sec while my PowerPoint comes up . Et voila . Okay . Mm um weput the fashion in electronics . Let's start . Okay , our agenda today um {disfmarker} just check the time, it's twelve thirteen . Um . I'm gonna do an opening , talk about um {disfmarker} did you all get theminutes ? I e-mailed them to you . I'm also putting 'em {disfmarker} them in the shared folder .UserInterface: Yep .Project Manager: So um then I {disfmarker} we'll talk about our generalobjectivesIndustrial Designer: Right .Project Manager: and have your three presentations . Um I'll talkabout the new project requirements I've just received , and then we have to make a decision on ourremote control functions . Finally we'll just close . We're starting this meeting at approximately twelvethirteen and we have forty minutes . So {disfmarker} First of all the functional design objectives . Uh weneed to keep in mind the user requirement specification , what needs and desires are to be fulfilled , the{gap} functions design , what effects the apparatus should have , and the working design , how theapparatus actually works to fulfil its function . Okay , three presentations , um you can go in any orderyou choose um .Marketing: {gap} Mm shall we go in the order that you just did it ?Project Manager: Sure, please do .Marketing: I dunno . How do I hook my screen up ?Industrial Designer: I think , you mighthave to disconnect Rose .Project Manager: Yes I do . Yeah .User Interface: Well there's a wee a wee plugjust just that one thereMarketing: Where does it go ? Mm-hmm . Hmm , I'm not supposed to move this,User Interface: {vocalsound}Marketing: but {disfmarker}User Interface: Ah that's it , yep .Marketing:{gap}User Interface: And then you have to press function F_ eightProject Manager: Function , F_ eight ,yeah .User Interface: I think it is on your laptop .Project Manager: The blue one , F_N_ .Marketing:Where's function ? No signal .Project Manager: Is it plugged in all the way and you screwed it in and{disfmarker}Industrial Designer: Yeah .Marketing: Ah , wait , 's screw in .Industrial Designer: I I thinkyou just have to push it in really hard .Marketing: Push the screw .User Interface: That's it .IndustrialDesigner: Oh , got it .Project Manager: Mm 'kay .Marketing: Mm alrightProject Manager: It's taking it alittle bit {disfmarker}Marketing: I've never attached to anything .Industrial Designer: Mm , neither haveI .Project Manager: 'Kay there you go .Marketing: Alright , so ,Industrial Designer: Alright .Marketing: Idon't know if you guys are able to get access to um the report that was online or if I'm the only one whois . But , I don't even know how to play this . No .Project Manager: Press the little presentation . It's theum {disfmarker} it looks like a Y_ kind of {disfmarker} over there above Draw . There , that one , thereyou go .Marketing: Alright . So we're just gonna talk a little bit about the functional requirements thatpeople specified when they were asked . Um I guess Real Reaction did some market research . They hada hundred subjects and their usability lab and they watched them watch T_V_ and recorded thefrequency that they used particular buttons and the relevance that those buttons had . What they foundwas they analysed people's desires and needs . Focusing on their desires , um people specifically saidthat they thought remotes were ugly {vocalsound} , seventy five per cent of the a hundred subjectsnoted that and that they {disfmarker} more importantly though , eighty per cent said that they would bewilling to pay more for a fancier looking remote . I don't know anything beyond what fancy means,Industrial Designer: Hmm .Marketing: but that's particularly of use to us , I think . Um also they didsome questions on voice recognition and found that the desire for voice recognition was inversely relatedto age , so younger people were more inclined to want something with voice recognition , whereas theolder people in the like sixty and above segment or so did not really think that they would pay moremoney for voice recognitions .Industrial Designer: 'Kay .Marketing: Um people also had certainfrustrations , that I think that we could try to take into consideration with our design . That being peoplek um frustrated with losing their remotes . I think , over fifty percent of the people mentioned that thatwas their biggest frustration . People are also frustrated with the difficulty it is to learn how to use aremote and I think that ties back to what you were saying beforeIndustrial Designer: Hmm .Marketing:just that there's too many buttons , it just needs to be easy to use . It also mentioned something calledR_S_I_ and I was hoping someone might be able to inform me as to what R_S_I_ is ,User Interface:"} {"doc_id":"doc_35","qid":"","text":"Professor B: Are we on ? We 're on . OK .PhD E: Is it on ?PhD D: Yeah .Professor B: Yeah . OK ,PhD D:One , two {disfmarker} u OK .PhD A: Why is it so cold in here ?Professor B: so , uh , we haven't sentaround the agenda . So , i uh , any agenda items anybody has , wants to talk about , what 's going on?Postdoc G: I c I could talk about the meeting .Grad H: Does everyone {disfmarker} has everyone metDon ?Postdoc G: Yeah .Professor B: It 's on ?PhD C: Now , yeah .PhD D: Yeah .Grad H: Yeah ? OK .PhDD: Yeah .Grad F: Hello .Professor B: OK , agenda item one ,PhD D: We went {disfmarker}Grad F: Yeah.Professor B: introduce Don . OK , we did that . Uh {disfmarker}PhD A: Well , I had a {disfmarker} just aquick question but I know there was discussion of it at a previous meeting that I missed , but just aboutthe {disfmarker} the wish list item of getting good quality close - talking mikes on every speaker.Professor B: OK , so let 's {disfmarker} let 's {disfmarker} So let 's just do agenda {pause} buildingright now . OK , so let 's talk about that a bit .PhD A: I mean , that was {disfmarker}Professor B: Uh , @@ tuss close talking mikes , better quality . OK , {vocalsound} uh , we can talk about that . You weregonna {disfmarker} starting to say something ?Postdoc G: Well , you {disfmarker} you , um , alreadyknow about the meeting {comment} that 's coming up and I don't know if {disfmarker} if this isappropriate for this . I don't know . I mean , maybe {disfmarker} maybe it 's something we shouldhandle outside of the meeting .Professor B: No , no , that 's OK .PhD E: What meeting ?Professor B: Wecan {disfmarker} so {disfmarker} we can ta so n NIST is {disfmarker} NIST folks are coming by nextweekPostdoc G: OK .Professor B: and so we can talk about that .Postdoc G: Yeah .Professor B: I thinkPhDE: Who 's coming ?Professor B: Uh , uh , John FiscusPostdoc G: Mm - hmm .Professor B: and , uh , Ithink George Doddington will be around as well . Uh , OK , so we can talk about that . Uh , I guess justhear about how things are going with , uh , uh , the transcriptions . That 's right .Postdoc G: Sure . Mm -hmm .Professor B: That would sorta be an obvious thing to discuss . Um , An - anything else , uh , strikeanybody ?PhD A: Uh , we started {pause} running recognition on {pause} one conversation but it 's the r{pause} isn't working yet . So , But if anyone has {disfmarker}Professor B: OK .PhD E: WhaPhD A: uh ,the main thing would be if anyone has , um , knowledge about ways to , uh , post - process the waveforms that would give us better recognition , that would be helpful to know about .Professor B: Um ,GradH: Dome yeah , it sounds like a topic of conversation .Professor B: Yeah , so , uh {disfmarker}PhD E:What about , uh , is there anything new with the speech , nonspeech stuff ?PhD C: Yeah , we 're workingmore on it but , {vocalsound} it 's not finished .Professor B: OK . Alright , that seems like a {disfmarker}a good collection of things . And we 'll undoubtedly think of {pause} other things .Postdoc G: I hadthought under my topic that I would mention the , uh , four items that I {disfmarker} I , uh , put out forbeing on the agenda f on that meeting , which includes like the pre - segmentation and the {disfmarker}and the developments in multitrans .Professor B: Oh , under the NIST meeting .Postdoc G: Yeah , underthe NIST thing .Professor B: OK .Postdoc G: Yeah .Professor B: Alright , why don't we start off with this ,u u I guess the order we brought them up seems fine .Postdoc G: Yeah .Professor B: Um , so , betterquality close talking mikes . So the one issue was that the {disfmarker} the , uh , lapel mike , uh , isn'tas good as you would like . And so , uh , it {disfmarker} it 'd be better if we had close talking mikes foreverybody . Right ?PhD A: Ri - um ,Professor B: Is that {disfmarker} is that basically the point ?PhD A:yeah , the {disfmarker} And actually in addition to that , that the {disfmarker} the close talking mikesare worn in such a way as to best capture the signal . And the reason here is just that for the peopledoing work not on microphones but on sort of like dialogue and so forth , uh {disfmarker} or and even onprosody , which Don is gonna be working on soon , it adds this extra , you know , vari variable for eachspeaker to {disfmarker} to deal with when the microphones aren't similar .Professor B: Mm - hmm .GradH: Right .PhD A: So {disfmarker} And I also talked to Mari this morning and she also had a strongpreference for doing that . And in fact she said that that 's useful for them to know in starting to collecttheir data too .Professor B: Mm - hmm . Right , so one thGrad H: Well , so {disfmarker}Professor B: uh ,well one thing I was gonna say was that , um , i we could get more , uh , of the head mountedmicrophones even beyond the number of radio channels we have because I think whether it 's radio or"} {"doc_id":"doc_36","qid":"","text":"PhD A: OK , we 're on .Professor C: OK , what are we talking about today ?PhD B: I don't know . Do youhave news from the conference talk ? Uh , that was programmed for yesterday {disfmarker} I guess.Professor C: Uh {disfmarker}PhD D: YesterdayProfessor C: Uh {disfmarker}PhD D: Yesterday morningon video conference .Professor C: Uh ,PhD B: WellProfessor C: oh , I 'm sorry .Grad E: Oh . Conferencecall .Professor C: I know {disfmarker} now I know what you 're talking about . No , nobody 's told meanything .PhD B: Alright .PhD A: Oh , this was the , uh , talk where they were supposed to try to decide{disfmarker}PhD B: To {disfmarker} to decide what to do ,PhD A: Ah , right .PhD B: yeah .PhD D: Yeah.Professor C: Yeah . No , that would have been a good thing to find out before this meeting , that 's . No ,I have no {disfmarker} I have no idea . Um , Uh , so I mean , let 's {disfmarker} let 's assume for rightnow that we 're just kind of plugging on ahead ,PhD B: Yeah .Professor C: because even if they tell usthat , uh , the rules are different , uh , we 're still interested in doing what we 're doing . So what are youdoing ?PhD B: Mm - hmm . Uh , well , we 've {disfmarker} a little bit worked on trying to see , uh , whatwere the bugs and the problem with the latencies .PhD D: To improve {disfmarker}PhD B: So , We took{disfmarker} first we took the LDA filters and , {vocalsound} uh , we designed new filters , using uhrecursive filters actually .Professor C: So when you say \" we \" , is that something Sunil is doing or is that{disfmarker} ?PhD B: I 'm sorry ?Professor C: Who is doing that ?PhD B: Uh , us . Yeah .Professor C: Oh, oh . Oh , OK .PhD B: So we took the filters {disfmarker} the FIR filters {vocalsound} and we{comment} designed , uh , IIR filters that have the same frequency response .PhD D: But{disfmarker}Professor C: Mm - hmm .PhD B: Well , similar , but that have shorter delays .Professor C:Mm - hmm .PhD B: So they had two filters , one for the low frequency bands and another for the highfrequency bands . And so we redesigned two filters . And the low frequency band has sixty - fourmilliseconds of delay , and the high frequency band filter has something like eleven millisecondscompared to the two hundred milliseconds of the IIR filters . But it 's not yet test . So we have the filtersbut we still have to implement a routine that does recursive filteringProfessor C: OK .PhD B: and{disfmarker}Professor C: You {disfmarker} you had a discussion with Sunil about this though ?PhD B: No. No .Professor C: Uh - huh . Yeah , you should talk with him .PhD B: Yeah , yeah .Professor C: Yeah . No, I mean , because the {disfmarker} the {disfmarker} the {disfmarker} the whole problem thathappened before was coordination ,PhD B: Mm - hmm .Professor C: right ? So {disfmarker} so you needto discuss with him what we 're doing ,PhD B: Yeah .Professor C: uh , cuz they could be doing the samething and {disfmarker} or something .PhD B: Mm - hmm . Uh , I {disfmarker} yeah , I don't know if ththat 's what they were trying to {disfmarker} They were trying to do something different like taking , uh{disfmarker} well , using filter that takes only a pastProfessor C: Right .PhD B: and this is just a little bitdifferent . But I will I will send him an email and tell him exactly what we are doing , so .Professor C:Yeah , yeah . Um ,PhD B: Um ,Professor C: I mean {disfmarker} We just {disfmarker} we just have to bein contact more . I think that {disfmarker} the {disfmarker} the fact that we {disfmarker} we did thatwith {disfmarker} had that thing with the latencies was indicative of the fact that there wasn't enoughcommunication .PhD B: Mm - hmm .Professor C: So .PhD B: Alright .Professor C: OK .PhD B: Um , Yeah .Well , there is w one , um , remark about these filters , that they don't have a linear phase . So ,ProfessorC: Right .PhD B: Well , I don't know , perhaps it {disfmarker} perhaps it doesn't hurt because the phaseis almost linear but . Um , and so , yeah , for the delay I gave you here , it 's {disfmarker} it 's , uh ,computed on the five hertz modulation frequency , which is the {disfmarker} mmm , well , the mostimportant for speech so . Uh , this is the first thing .Professor C: So that would be , uh , a reduction of ahundred and thirty - six milliseconds ,PhD D: The low f fPhD B: Yeah .Professor C: which , uh{disfmarker} What was the total we ended up with through the whole system ?PhD B: Three hundred andthirty .Professor C: So that would be within {disfmarker} ?PhD B: Yeah , but there are other pointsactually , uh , which will perhaps add some more delay . Is that some other {disfmarker} other stuff inthe process were perhaps not very {disfmarker} um perf well , not very correct , like the downsamplingwhich w was simply dropping frames .Professor C: Yeah .PhD B: Um , so we will try also to add a nice"} {"doc_id":"doc_37","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: Think we can first {disfmarker}Industrial Designer: Mm .User Interface: Right it wasfunction F_ eight or something .Industrial Designer: ThaUser Interface: This one right there .IndustrialDesigner: Okay .User Interface: Okay .Industrial Designer: Who is gonna do a PowerPoint presentation?User Interface: Think we all {gap} {disfmarker}Industrial Designer: You will as well ?User Interface:Huh . Oh I thought we all were .Industrial Designer: Okay .User Interface: Yeah , I have one too , okay.Project Manager: {gap} .User Interface: SIndustrial Designer: Yep .Marketing: {gap} .User Interface:Whoops I forgot to put the thing on {vocalsound} {disfmarker}Project Manager: Right . I just wanna{disfmarker} 'cause basically I can't re I've {disfmarker} really crap at remembering everyone's name soI just wanna {disfmarker} rather than going uh Miss Marketing and Miss this and Miss that {vocalsound}wanted to know your names again .User Interface: Okay .Industrial Designer: Okay I'm{disfmarker}Project Manager: {gap} just gonna leave this up here 'cause I'll {vocalsound} you know .So {disfmarker}Industrial Designer: Okay .User Interface: Yeah . Sure , that's a good idea .IndustrialDesigner: I'm Catherine with a C_ . C_A_T_H_ E_R_ I_N_E_ .Project Manager: Okay , andUser Interface:Uh Gabriel .Project Manager: Gabriel . E_L_ is it ?User Interface: E_L_ .Project Manager: 'Kay . Andyou're s r R_E_I_S_S_ {vocalsound} {gap}Marketing: I am Reissa . R_E_I_S_S_A_ . Double S_ A_ ,yeah {vocalsound} yeah . Sorry .Project Manager: Okay .Marketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager: 'Sjust a bit nicer calling people by their names I think .Industrial Designer: Right .User Interface:{vocalsound}Industrial Designer: True .Project Manager: {vocalsound} Uh , right .Marketing: Mm 'kay.Project Manager: Okay , right , welcome to meeting B_ . Um this is gonna go a lot better than the lastmeeting , basically ,Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}User Interface: {vocalsound}Project Manager: uh'cause I know what I'm supposed to be doing now .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Marketing:{vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound} I am your Project Manager , and , uh yeah , I'm just heretoIndustrial Designer: {vocalsound}Project Manager: {gap} sort of liaise between the three of you andget things going , get people talking and and I'm gonna be making notes and sending them off to thepowers that be and stuff basically . Um right , this {disfmarker} for the purposes of this meeting{disfmarker} what this meeting is all about is um I'm gonna have some presentations from all three ofyou , what you've been working on for the last wee while , when you haven't been getting hit with spamon your computers and and , you know , filling out silly questionnaires and things .Industrial Designer:{vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager: But hopefully you've been {disfmarker} actuallybeen doing something productive . So we're gonna {disfmarker} each of you gonna give us a litt a littlepresentation . {vocalsound} Um .Marketing: Mm .Project Manager: Then we're gonna {vocalsound} work, you know , from each of your presentations . We'll we'll uh talk about what we actually need as a finalcoming together of it all . Um and then we'll , yeah , we'll {gap} sort of conclude {gap} anything elsecomes up at the end of it .Industrial Designer: How long is the meeting ?Project Manager: This meetingit's not very long . It's uh probably down to about thirty five minutes now . So I want each of yourpresentations to not be too long , five five minutes , something like that .Industrial Designer: Okay .{vocalsound} No problem . {vocalsound}Project Manager: Um if you haven't done a PowerPoint thingy ,it doesn't matter , it it just it just says that you {disfmarker} it's {disfmarker} that's just one particularmedium . If you haven't had time to prepare one , you can draw stuff on the noteboard , you can talk tous , you can {disfmarker} you know however you want to do your little presentation , basically , you can. Don't feel pressurised into using this thing . 'Cause I don't .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}ProjectManager: {vocalsound} Uh okay . So um . You okay over there ? Reissa ,Marketing: I'm fine . Yeah.Project Manager: are you uh b are you joining in with this meeting hereMarketing: I uh yeah , yeah.Project Manager: or are y or are y or are you are you just are you just uh doing some Internet shoppingthere ? {vocalsound}User Interface: Think she's finishing up her presentation .Marketing: D I mean , II'm finishing off my presentation .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Marketing: No no . {vocalsound} UhI'm done . Okay .Project Manager: Okay , jolly good . Alright , let's have um {disfmarker} well , we allknow that it's it's a remote control that we're gonna be dealing with .Marketing: Mm .Project Manager: I"} {"doc_id":"doc_38","qid":"","text":"Grad B: Sorry . Mental {disfmarker} mental Palm Pilot . Right . Hence {pause} no problem .Grad F: Let 'ssee . So . What ? I 'm supposed to be on channel five ? Her . Nope . Doesn't seem to be ,Grad B: Hello{pause} I 'm channel one .Grad F: yeah .Grad D: Grad E: What does your thing say on the back ?Grad D:Testing .Grad F: Nnn , five . Alright , I 'm five .Grad D: Sibilance . Sibilance . {comment} {pause} Three ,three . I am three .Grad B: Eh .Grad D: See , that matches the seat up there . So .Grad F: Yeah , well , Ig guess {pause} it 's coming up then , or {disfmarker}Grad D: Cuz it 's {disfmarker} That startscounting from zero and these start counting from one . Ergo , the classic off - by - one error .Grad B: Butmine is correct .Grad D: Is it ?Grad E: No .Grad B: It 's one . Channel one .Grad D: Your mike {pause}number {pause} is what we 're tGrad E: Look at the back .Grad B: Oh , oh , oh ! Oh .Grad D: Ho !GradB: So {disfmarker}Grad D: I 've bested you again , Nancy .Grad B: But your p No , but the paper 'scorrect .Grad D: The paper is correct .Grad B: Look at the paper .Grad D: I didn't det I was saying themicrophone , not the paper .Professor C: Nnn ,Grad B: Oh .Professor C: it 's nGrad B: OK .Professor C: It's always offset . Yeah .Grad B: Yes , you 've bested me again . That 's how I think of our continuinginteraction . Damn ! Foiled again !Grad D: So is Keith showing up ? He 's talking with George right now .Uh , is he gonna get a rip {disfmarker} uh {disfmarker} rip himself away from {disfmarker} from that?Grad B: He 'll probably come later .Professor C: What {disfmarker} He - he he 's probably not , is myguess .Grad D: Oh , then it 's just gonna be the five of us ?Professor C: Yeah .Grad E: Well , he{disfmarker} he was very affirmative in his way of saying he will be here at four . But {pause} you know, that was before he knew about that George lecture probably .Professor C: Right . This {disfmarker} thisis not {disfmarker} It 's not bad for the project if Keith is talking to George . OK . So my suggestion is wejustGrad B: Forge ahead .Professor C: Forge ahead , yeah .Grad E: Cool .Grad B: Are you in charge ?GradE: Sure . Um . Well , I sort of had informal talks with most of you . So , Eva just reported she 's reallyhappy about the {pause} CBT 's being in the same order in the XML as in the um {disfmarker} be Javadeclaration formatGrad F: Yeah . The eGrad E: so you don't have to do too much in the style sheettransversion .Grad F: Uh , yeah . Yeah , so .Grad E: The {disfmarker} uh , Java {disfmarker} theembedded Bayes {pause} wants to take input {disfmarker} uh , uh , a Bayes - net {disfmarker} in{disfmarker} in some Java notation and Eva is using the Xalan style sheet processor to convert the XMLthat 's output by the Java Bayes for the {disfmarker} into the , uh , E Bayes input .Grad D: Mmm .GradF: Actually , maybe I could try , like , emailing the guy and see if he has any something already.Professor C: Sure .Grad E: Hmm .Grad F: That 'd be weird , that he has both the Java Bayes and theembedded Bayes in {disfmarker}Grad D: But that 's some sort of conversion program ?Grad F: Yeah .Yeah . And put them into different {pause} formats . Oh {disfmarker}Grad D: I think you should demandthings from him .Grad F: Yep , he could do that , too .Professor C: He charges so much . Right .Grad D:Yeah .Professor C: No , I think it 's a good idea that you may as well ask . Sure .Grad F: Yeah .Grad E:And , um , well {pause} pretty mu pretty much on t on the top of my list , I would have asked Keith howthe \" where is X ? \" {pause} hand parse is standing . Um . {pause} But we 'll skip that . Uh , there 'sgood news from Johno . The generation templates are done .Grad D: So the trees {pause} for{disfmarker} the XML trees for the {disfmarker} for the gene for the synthesizer are written . So I justneed to {pause} do the , uh {disfmarker} write a new set of {pause} tree combining rules . But I thinkthose 'll be pretty similar to the old ones . So . Just gonna be {disfmarker} you know{disfmarker}Professor C: Oh ! You were gonna send me a note about hiring {disfmarker}Grad E: Yes.Professor C: I didn't finish the sentence but he understood it .Grad D: I know what he 's talking about.Professor C: OK . But Nancy doesn't .Grad B: Hiring somebody .Grad E: We {disfmarker} w um{disfmarker}Grad D: The guy .Grad E: OK , so {pause} natural language generation {pause} producesnot a {disfmarker} just a surface string that is fed into a text - to - speech but , a {pause} surface stringwith a syntax tree that 's fed into a concept - to - speech .Professor C: No .Grad B: Yeah . Mm - hmm .Better .Grad E: Now and this concept - to - speech module has {pause} certain rules on how {pause} ifyou get the following syntactic structure , how to map this onto prosodic rules .Grad B: Mm - hmm . Sure"} {"doc_id":"doc_39","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: {vocalsound} Okay ? Good afternoon . Hope you have good lunch .User Interface: Hi.Industrial Designer: Afternoon . Yeah , we had falafel .Project Manager: Oh . Nice . And you ?UserInterface: Uh , yes , I had something similar but non-vegetarian .Project Manager: {vocalsound} Okay .So today is um our third meeting . It will be about the conceptual design {vocalsound} uh . If I comeback to uh the minutes of the last meetings um . We decided not to go for speech recognitiontechnologies because of some reasons and we are not decided about u the use of L_C_D_ screen on onthe remote control because of costs . So maybe we cou wi will be able to clarify this this question totoday . Uh at the end of the meeting we should take decision on that point . So I hope uh that yourrespective pr presentations uh will help us . So each of you have some presentatio presentation toperform um who starts ?Marketing: Okay , {gap} .Project Manager: So marketing .Marketing:{vocalsound} {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound} So you are{disfmarker} you saved your y your presentation somewhere ?Marketing: Yep .Project Manager: Soyou're four ?Marketing: Four , yeah .Project Manager: Which is trend watch . {vocalsound} Okay . MrMarketing Experts .Marketing: Yeah that's me .Project Manager: So {gap} {vocalsound}Marketing:{vocalsound} Uh . Well I investigate the preference more d I investigate deeper the preference of theusers . Uh so the the current investigation th uh th uh sorry the current the n current trends ?UserInterface: Yeah .Project Manager: Mm-hmm .Marketing: Yeah ? Okay . {vocalsound} {gap} Okay .{vocalsound} Well wha {vocalsound} what I found {disfmarker} um can you {disfmarker}ProjectManager: Next slide ? Yeah .Marketing: Yeah . Thank you . What I found in order of importance from lessto more important is that people want an easy to use device . After they they want something newtechnologic technologically speaking , but the most {disfmarker} what they what they find more moreinteresting , more {disfmarker} or more important it's uh a fancy look and feel instead of uh instead ofthe current the current trend which was f the functional look and feel .Industrial Designer:{vocalsound}Marketing: So now more more cool aspect , ma more {disfmarker} a cooler aspect uhrather than a device with many functions and many buttons with {disfmarker} instead of i instead of haof a device which can do many things , a device which is pleasant to to watch , to see .Project Manager:Okay .Marketing: Uh also {disfmarker} Well {vocalsound} in in Euro in in Paris and and {vocalsound}Milan the {disfmarker} {vocalsound}User Interface: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer:{vocalsound}Marketing: in Paris and in Paris and Milan the the current trend of {gap} uh of clothes ,furniture and all this all this fashion it's {vocalsound} it's fruit and the the the theme is fruit andvegetables .User Interface: {vocalsound}Project Manager: Mm .Marketing: And also {vocalsound} in thein the U_S_A_ the the current {disfmarker} the mor the most popular feeling it's it's a spongy . Spongymeans eponge ?Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .Marketing: So maybe we should we should think in in thisdirection , so {disfmarker}User Interface: What what do you mean by {vocalsound} fruit and vegetablesand spongy ?Marketing: {vocalsound}User Interface: What {disfmarker} you mean clotheIndustrialDesigner: Spongy means it it's like spMarketing: Fruit vegetables is the the new {disfmarker} have youseen the last exposition of clothes in Milan ?User Interface: No , I missed that one .Marketing: Yeah , I Ididn't miss an {vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound}User Interface: {vocalsound}IndustrialDesigner: {vocalsound}Marketing: I didn't miss and I saw that the fruit , there are many fr pictures offruits and vegetables in the clothes .User Interface: Oh , they're {disfmarker} okay so they're not likedressed as a carrot they just have like pictures of fruit on , okay .Marketing: No no , not not yet , not yet.Project Manager: {vocalsound}Marketing: Yeah , yeah .User Interface: So we're not gonna have aremote control in the shape of of a banana ,Marketing: So te textu textures , yeah .User Interface: justmaybe {disfmarker}Marketing: Yeah .User Interface: {vocalsound}Marketing: Vegetable textures and allthis kind .Project Manager: Drawings of bananas .User Interface: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer:{vocalsound}Marketing: Uh {vocalsound}User Interface: Okay and {vocalsound} {disfmarker}ProjectManager: Uh-huh .Marketing: yeah , yeah .Industrial Designer: But what's your suggestion how we canhave some shape like that on the remote ?Project Manager: Well so this is in the next slide certainly"} {"doc_id":"doc_40","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: So we are here to talk about functional design . Now hopefully we've all got a betteridea from {vocalsound} {disfmarker} than we did f leaving the last meeting as to what it is we are up tonow . So here's an agenda . Uh I'll open . Um you should know that I'll be taking minutes during all themeetings , as I was struggling to our last time uh and that'll be easier for me now because I'm notactually giving the whole presentation . Uh the additional points are just the stuff that we sent and that Iforwarded on from upper management having a few bright ideas to make our lives painful .IndustrialDesigner: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}Project Manager: Um {vocalsound} now {vocalsound} you can allgive your presentations . We can talk about the requirements and hopefully come to some decisions .{vocalsound} Right , forty minutes for this meeting , so a bit more time than the last one . Here's theadditional points I just wanted to put those in there to see if you guys had any comments on them . Uhdid you all receive that email ?User Interface: Yep .Marketing: Yeah .Project Manager: So does anyonehave any overall {gap}Marketing: Well {vocalsound} uh what comes up for me is that if we're gonna ifwe're gonna be marketing a product that is going to be uh having {vocalsound} no teletext , people arevery comfortable {vocalsound} with {vocalsound} the idea of having teletext and using teletext , and sowe're not {disfmarker} we're gonna be a new product without something that people are verycomfortable having right now .Project Manager: Mm . Mm . Yep .Marketing: So that's , from a marketingperspective I I see I see a lack .Project Manager: Mm .Marketing: And so we have to go , I think , in theother direction . What are we gonna have that makes this thing better than {disfmarker}ProjectManager: Well tha that first point could uh also be an op opportunity because in seeing that teletext isbecoming outdated , some sort remote control that can work with the Internet {disfmarker}{vocalsound} there is the opportunity that's presented , I guess .Marketing: {vocalsound} Right . Yeah .No , I I agree with you .Project Manager: Okay .Marketing: So what I'm talking about is I see that oneside we're eliminating something so we have to come up with another side which is , what are we gonnabe targeting our market uh that {vocalsound} identifies our product as better than {disfmarker} becauseit doesn't have teletext it has ta-ta-ta-ta-ta .Project Manager: Okay .Marketing: So that's that's that wasmy reactions .Project Manager: Yeah . but but we are sort of being dictated that this should only be forthe television .Marketing: Yeah yeah .Project Manager: So we're quite fixed . So we're really probably , interms of marketing , are looking for that's uh that's a cost winner rather than a fantastic new featureproduct .Marketing: Yep .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yeah bu but we we're designing only theremote ,Project Manager: Yeah .Marketing: Okay .Industrial Designer: we not design the T_V_ .ProjectManager: Hmm .Industrial Designer: So uh we're gonna be removing the teletext out of any T_V_ thatwe {disfmarker} people use our remote with .Marketing: Yeah . 'Kay .Project Manager: Hmm .Marketing:That's right .Industrial Designer: So it's kind of a stupid decision .Marketing: I think we take with you.Project Manager: But there's also the potential for mark there's a market here for our lost teletext .UserInterface: Right .Project Manager: For example someone that just goes to the shop that wants areplacement {disfmarker} wants it as {vocalsound} cheap as possible . Twenty-five Euros is the sellingprice , we really have to innovate here I guess .Marketing: That's what I'm that's what I'm talking aboutis is that we have to find something that is gonna be very attractive about this product 'cause somebody ,some people are gonna be hap unhappy 'cause it took {disfmarker} they can't ac access their teletext.Project Manager: Mm .Marketing: Okay . 'Cause we're talking about {vocalsound} eighty percent orninety percent or ninety-five percent of the televisions out there are are teletext .Project Manager: Kyeah .Marketing: So so it's it's not that I'm criticizing the product at all . It's just when we eliminate thatthen what do we bring ? What are we bringing in to take the place of this ,Project Manager: Mm 'kay.Marketing: and we have to d {disfmarker} in my opinion we have to double up .Industrial Designer:{vocalsound}Marketing: If we lose one we need to bring two or three .Project Manager: Okay . Okay Ithink that the {vocalsound} last point is probably quite uh straightforward . Obviously the the{disfmarker} w it has to be branded . 'Kay .Industrial Designer: So then the double R_ will be our our{disfmarker}Project Manager: On the product yeah . Can you handle that black and yellow ?User"} {"doc_id":"doc_41","qid":"","text":"Grad E: As usual .Grad B: Yes . Whew ! I almost forgot {pause} about the meeting . I woke up twentyminutes ago , thinking , what did I forget ?Grad D: It 's great how the br brain sort of does that .Grad E:Something 's not right here .Grad B: Internal alarms .Grad D: OK . So the news for me is A , myforthcoming travel plansGrad B: Yes .Grad D: in two weeks from today ? Yeah ? More or less ? I 'll be offto Sicily and Germany for a couple , three days .Grad B: Now what are y what are you doing there ? Iforgot ?Grad D: OK , I 'm flying to Sicily basically to drop off Simon there with his grandparents . Andthen I 'm flying to Germany t to go to a MOKU - Treffen which is the meeting of all the module -responsible people in SmartKom ,Grad B: Mmm .Grad D: and , represent ICI and myself I guess there .And um . That 's the mmm actual reason . And then I 'm also going up to EML for a day , and then I 'mgoing to {vocalsound} meet the very big boss , Wolfgang Walster , in Saarbruecken and the Systemsystem integration people in Kaiserslautern and then I 'm flying back via Sicily pick up my son come backhere on the fourth of July . And uh .Grad E: What a great time to be coming back to theGrad B: God blessAmerica .Grad E: You 'll see maybe {disfmarker} see the fireworks from your plane coming in .Grad D:And I 'm sure all the {disfmarker} the people at the airport will be happy to work on that day .Grad E:Yeah . You 'll get even better service than usual .Grad B: Wait , aren't you flying on Lufthansa though?Grad D: Mm - hmm . Alitalia .Grad B: Oh . Well then the {disfmarker} you know , it 's not a big deal .Once you get to the United States it 'll be a problem , butGrad D: Yeah . And um , that 's that bit of news, and the other bit of news is we had {disfmarker} you know , uh , I was visited by my German projectmanager who A , did like what we did {disfmarker} what we 're doing here , and B , is planning to comehere either three weeks in July or three weeks in August , to actually work .Grad B: On {disfmarker}?Grad D: With us .Grad B: Oh .Grad D: And we sat around and we talked and he came up {disfmarker}we came up {disfmarker} with a pretty strange idea . And that 's what I 'm gonna lay on you now . Andum , maybe it might be ultimately the most interesting thing for Eva because she has been known tocomplain about the fact that the stuff we do here is not weird enough .Grad C: OK .Grad D: So this is soweird it should even make you happy .Grad C: Uh . {comment} OK .Grad E: Oh great .Grad D: Imagine ifyou will , {vocalsound} that we have a system that does all that understanding that we want it to dobased on utterances .Grad B: Mm - hmm .Grad D: It should be possible to make that system producequestions . So if you have the knowledge of how to interpret \" where is X ? \" under given conditions ,situational , user , discourse and ontological {vocalsound} conditions , you should also be able to makethat same system ask \" where is X ? \"Grad E: Mm - hmm .Grad D: in a sper certain way , based oncertain intentions . So in instead of just being able to observe phenomenon , um , and , guess theintention we might be able just to sort of give it an intention , and make it produce an utterance .Grad E:Hmm .Grad B: Well , like in AI they generally do the take in , and then they also do the generation phase, like Nancy 's thing . Or uh , you remember , in the {disfmarker} the hand thing in one - eighty - two ,like not only was it able to recognize but it was also to generate based upon situations . You mean thatsort of thing ?Grad D: Absolutely .Grad B: OK .Grad D: And once you 've done that what we can do ishave the system ask itself . And answer , understand the answer , ask something else , and enter adialogue with itself . So the {disfmarker} the ba basic {disfmarker} the same idea as having two chesscomputers play against each other .Grad E: Except this smacks a little bit more of a schizophreniccomputer than AI .Grad D: Yeah you c if you want , you can have two parallel {vocalsound} machines um, asking each other . What would that give us ? Would A be something completely weird and strange ,and B , i if you look at all the factors , we will never observe people let 's say , in wheelchairs under{disfmarker} you know , in {disfmarker} under all conditions ,Grad E: That 's good .Grad D: you know ,when they say \" X \" , and there is a ride at the goal , and the parking is good , we can never collectenough data . It 's {disfmarker} it 's {disfmarker} it 's not possible .Grad E: Mm - hmm . Right , right.Grad D: But maybe one could do some learning . If you get the system to speak to itself , you may find nbreak downs and errors and you may be able to learn . And make it more robust , maybe learn newthings . And um , so there 's no {disfmarker} no end of potential things one could get out of it , if that"} {"doc_id":"doc_42","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: Wait for the marketing director actually , so . Anyways . Uh . See , shall we wait ? I'mnot sure if he's late or delayed or whatever , so I'm gonna start soon , we have now {disfmarker} don'thave much time anyway .User Interface: Oh , there he is .Industrial Designer: Okay ,Marketing: Yes.Project Manager: There you are ,Industrial Designer: we {disfmarker}Marketing: Sorry ,ProjectManager: okay .Marketing: a little bit of pl little problem with computer .Project Manager: Uh no problem. We're about to start , so have a seat . Okay , welcome again .Marketing: {vocalsound} {gap} .ProjectManager: Today , functional design phase . I'll take you over the minutes of last last meeting . Okay ,that was just to get to know each other ,Marketing: Uh .Project Manager: have a little thoughts on whatyour vision is and {disfmarker} on this project , so {disfmarker} I put the minutes on the {disfmarker} Imade on the on the p the the project share , so if you wanna review them , they're there . I will do soafter every meeting , so if you have some information you wanna take back you can find it there .Anyways , um today three presentations , from every one of you . Um after that I got some new projectrequirements from project board , so we're gonna go af go after {disfmarker} over this later . But Iwanna start with uh stuff you did first , so we can see what everybody came up with . And after that wecan have the new requirements and share some thoughts , so . Who would like {disfmarker} wanna gofirst ?Marketing: Yeah , sure , no problem .Project Manager: Take it .User Interface: Go ahead.Marketing: Um there was a little problem with my computer so not uh the whole uh presentation uh{disfmarker}Project Manager: {vocalsound} Anyway , let's see what you have .Marketing: Yeah . Um{disfmarker} Okay ,Project Manager: Uh it's still a bit open .Marketing: I want to open the my s oh no.Project Manager: You should close it on your own notebook , I guess . Yeah . So there ?Marketing: Oh no,Project Manager: Okay .Marketing: that's okay . Uh slide show . Yes . The functional requirements , it'suh {vocalsound} uh very important for uh the user , he he wants to {disfmarker} yeah . The the methodwe used uh it it's not m not a slide , because it went wrong , but the method we use uh , um{vocalsound} we tested it w uh with uh a hundred uh men , and we asked them to w uh what the remoteuh f feel uh like and uh what what's uh important . Uh {disfmarker}Project Manager: If I can cut in , is itpeople or men ? {vocalsound}Marketing: People ,Project Manager: Is it people , okay .Marketing: sorry.Project Manager: 'Cause I thought it was only men ,Marketing: Both women and men ,Project Manager:so {disfmarker}Marketing: yeah .Project Manager: 'Kay .Marketing: Okay . Uh the findings um uh{vocalsound} seventy five percent of the users find most remote controls ugly . Um {disfmarker}UserInterface: That's pretty shocking uh . {vocalsound}Project Manager: So we have to s we have to dosomething about that .Marketing: Yeah , and {disfmarker} yeah , most th th they want to spend moneyfor a better system , for better remote control , so we can do uh a l a little uh nice things with it , and umthey use {disfmarker} yeah , they use zap a lot , um uh fifty percent say they only {disfmarker} Sothat's the most important things .Project Manager: Okay .Marketing: Um {disfmarker} oh yeah , not allof it is it on mine on my PowerPoint presentation ,Project Manager: Okay , just talk ahead .Marketing: butum uh the relevant buttons are the power , the channel selection and the volume selection .ProjectManager: Mm-hmm .Marketing: It's uh the most basic buttons that a user wants uh {vocalsound} to use. Uh less important is tel teletext ,Project Manager: Mm-hmm . {vocalsound}Marketing: uh um they useit , but it's not uh very uh important uh on the scale of zero to ten they six and a half uhProject Manager:Okay , that's okay .User Interface: {vocalsound}Marketing: and {disfmarker} but not important is thechannel selection , the the {vocalsound} {disfmarker} hmm ?Project Manager: That's a little weird.Marketing: Oh , {vocalsound}User Interface: {vocalsound} Which channel selection ?Marketing: the the{disfmarker} no no no no no , that's very important , but uh w and not important in the audio settings ,display settingsProject Manager: Okay ,Marketing: and uh {disfmarker}Project Manager: we can we canhide those under a menu or something ,User Interface: Oh , okay .Marketing: Yeah .Project Manager:okay .Marketing: {vocalsound} Um new preferences preferences . Uh um um beep to find your control ,was {disfmarker}Project Manager: That's like a button on your T_V_ ?Marketing: that was {gap} in thetest , the the most people uh f find it uh irritating uh when they cannot find a rem their remote control"} {"doc_id":"doc_43","qid":"","text":"Marketing: Did you get my email with the slides ? Ah . Tricky .Industrial Designer: I guess I have tochange the pen otherwise . Will be completely different .Marketing: Dunno . Maybe they're supposed{disfmarker} the pen's supposed to go over the seats . Might be seat floor rather than person . Yeah ,put it back .Industrial Designer: Yeah . And do you think {vocalsound} it's {gap} .Marketing: Yep{vocalsound} . Yeah .Project Manager: {vocalsound} Okay .Marketing: Jo's making faces at me .{vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Yeah .Project Manager: So . Matthew is uh late again .Marketing:Mm-hmm .Project Manager: {vocalsound} Probably an important man . Um . So well it is important forhim to be here uh .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yeah .Project Manager: He he he{disfmarker}Industrial Designer: So what can you {disfmarker} {gap} ?Project Manager: You did worktogether didn't you ?Industrial Designer: Yeah we will {disfmarker} yeah , so I will be able to tosummarize uh our meeting ,Project Manager: Yes .Industrial Designer: but still I think uh it would be invery important if the uh as um main designer . I think we can put on the {gap} here .Project Manager:Yes . Yes .Industrial Designer: Uh basically w yeah we we designed the two uh items .Project Manager:Mm . Um yesIndustrial Designer: Um , can we have a phone ,Project Manager: but w we {disfmarker}{vocalsound} {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: can someone {disfmarker}Project Manager: Yes , maybewe should phone him . Um well {disfmarker} Um ,Industrial Designer: it's really w well designed{vocalsound} .Marketing: Mm . Mm , object tracking . {vocalsound}Project Manager: when he is not herewe will just we just have to continue . Um so just for record I I will take uh notes again .IndustrialDesigner: Yeah .Marketing: Okay .Project Manager: And um well {vocalsound} first thing uh I was uh uhI got an email from uh from my superior again that we really should stay within the budget of the uhtwelve Euro and fifty cents .Industrial Designer: 'Kay .Project Manager: when you stay in it's good , whenyou don't stay in you have to redesign . There is no {vocalsound} uh no negotiation uh {vocalsound}possible in this matter . So we have to consider that . {vocalsound} Good .Industrial Designer: Yep.Project Manager: Um so maybe Anna , you can have your presentation .Marketing: Well we can't{disfmarker} no {disfmarker} we can't do evaluation 'til we have a design .Project Manager: OkayMatthew . Nice uh you are here .Industrial Designer: Great .Project Manager: Great . Great . Oh mamaybe then you can start now with mm presenting your uh your designs .Industrial Designer: Yep . So Iwill start by the the basic one that uh fits into uh eight Euros actually , right , seven eight Euros,Marketing: Mm-hmm .Industrial Designer: and uh well first for both they have um a special shape ,maybe the designer can uh explain better than me , but uh it's like a surf board .Marketing: Mm 'kay.Industrial Designer: And you you are supposed to surf to browse to surf T_V_ , maybe the web , and uhit's kind of interesting shape because um unconsciously people want to s to surf {vocalsound} when theysee this stuff .Marketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound}User Interface:{vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound}User Interface: Or browse .Industrial Designer: And also it'snot too far from um a mobile .Marketing: Mm-hmm .Project Manager: Mm .Industrial Designer: So peopleare used to that kind of shape ,User Interface: Mm .Marketing: Mm-hmm .Industrial Designer: right .Don't take care too much about the colour because w yeah we don't take {disfmarker}User Interface:Now we are supposed to give some oper offers right now .Industrial Designer: yeah . So here would bebasically the the the infrared uh uh ledMarketing: {vocalsound} Mm-hmm .Project Manager: Eye .UserInterface: {vocalsound} I {disfmarker} yeah .Industrial Designer: yeah L_A_ L_A_ L_E_D_ ,UserInterface: L_E_D_ .Industrial Designer: the on-off button , in red .Marketing: Mm-hmm .IndustrialDesigner: Here would be the volume . On the on the left ,Marketing: Oh yeah .Project Manager: Uh-huh.Industrial Designer: okay , so {gap}User Interface: Mm-hmm , hmm .Project Manager: Yes .IndustrialDesigner: easy to turn on t and off . And um so this is a very cheap version so there are {disfmarker}maybe you can carry on uh Matthew .User Interface: Also {vocalsound} so you have uh uh browsing thechannels , actuallyMarketing: Mm-hmm .User Interface: so you can go up and down the channels,Marketing: Yeah .User Interface: uh , if you have a video or something you can forward , back .IndustrialDesigner: How can you change from V_C_R_ to uh T_V_ , by the way ?User Interface: Oh {gap} no no"} {"doc_id":"doc_44","qid":"","text":"The Chair (Hon. Anthony Rota (NipissingTimiskaming, Lib.)): I call the meeting to order. Welcome to theseventh meeting of the Special Committee on the COVID-19 Pandemic. Please note that today'sproceedings will be televised in the same way as a typical sitting of the House. We will proceed toministerial announcements. I understand that there are no ministerial announcements. That's confirmed.We will now proceed to presenting petitions for a period not exceeding 15minutes. I would like to remindmembers that any petition presented during a meeting of the special committee must have already beencertified by the clerk of petitions. Once the petition is presented, the member is asked to bring it here tothe Table. Mr.Manly is the first one to be allowed to present a petition.Mr. Paul Manly(NanaimoLadysmith, GP): Thank you, Mr. Chair. I rise today to present a petition that has manysignatures from constituents in NanaimoLadysmith. They're calling for a ban on cosmetic testing usinganimals. They want us to follow the European Union model, under which the use of animals in cosmetictesting has been banned. Moving forward, they're calling for a ban on the sale and manufacture ofanimal-tested cosmetics and their ingredients in Canada.The Chair: Mr. Poilievre is next.Hon. PierrePoilievre (Carleton, CPC): Thank you very much, Mr. Chair. I rise today to table e-petition 2466, initiatedby a constituent of mine in Stittsville, a beautiful west Ottawa community. The petition has collected 827signatures from every province and territory. It was collected by Cara, a mother from my riding whosuffered an unthinkable tragedy. Her 11-year-old son Joshua drowned in a boating accident on the St.Lawrence River at Rockport, Ontario. Joshua was not wearing a life jacket. Worse, Cara's family had towait 48 days to recover Joshua's body. Cara is now working tirelessly to amend the small vesselregulations to make it mandatory for children under the age of 14 to wear a life jacket or PFD while theyare passengers in or drivers of small vessels covered under parts 2, 3, and 4 of the regulations. I supportCara's efforts, and I'm honoured to table this petition on her behalf.The Chair: Seeing no further petitionsto be presented, we'll continue, and we will now proceed to the questioning of ministers. Please note thatwe will suspend the proceedings every 45minutes to allow employees who provide support for the sittingto replace each other safely. Go ahead, Mr. Scheer.Hon. Andrew Scheer (Leader of the Opposition): Itwas revealed yesterday that this government's policy was to ignore fraud. The Prime Minister's reactionwas to act as if everything was normal. In fact, we've learned that over 200,000cases of suspected fraudhave been identified in the benefit applications. The Prime Minister is failing our future generations. Ourchildren and grandchildren are going to pay back billions of dollars that he's borrowing to pay tax cheats.Will the Prime Minister protect taxpayers and immediately begin a review of these 200,000cases ofsuspected fraud?Right Hon. Justin Trudeau (Prime Minister): Our priority was to get money out quickly toall Canadians who needed it, and that's exactly what we've done. Millions of Canadians have received themoney they so desperately needed. Having said that, I want to make it very clear, Mr.Chair: Fraud isunacceptable. We have measures in place to detect fraud. All fraudsters will be required to pay back themoney they fraudulently received from the government. We're going to make sure that this is done in thecoming months.Hon. Andrew Scheer: Mr. Chair, Conservatives agree that those who need help should getit, and no one is arguing that they shouldn't, but reports indicate that the Liberals have ordered publicservants to turn a blind eye to 200,000 cases of suspected fraud. It's a simple question: Yes or no, didthe government instruct any government department to ignore red flags or warnings of fraudulentcases?Right Hon. Justin Trudeau: Mr. Chair, the priority in this situation was getting money out to themillions of Canadians who needed it as quickly as possible, but of course fraud is unacceptable. That'swhy we have put safeguards in place to ensure that anyone who received that money fraudulently willhave to repay it.Hon. Andrew Scheer: It's a yes-or-no question, Mr. Chair. Did the government give anykind of instruction to public servants in any department to ignore red flags or warnings of fraudulentcases, yes or no?Right Hon. Justin Trudeau: The instruction to government officials was to get money outto those who needed it as quickly as possible. We have put measures in place to detect fraud. People whogot this money fraudulently will have to repay.Hon. Andrew Scheer: Mr. Chair, it is clear that he can'tanswer a yes-or-no question, so we can all assume what the answer must be. In other situations, the"} {"doc_id":"doc_45","qid":"","text":"Grad E: I guess .Grad A: OK , we 're on . So just make sure that th your wireless mike is on , if you 'rewearing a wireless .Grad E: Check one . Check one .Grad A: And you should be able to see which one{disfmarker} which one you 're on by , uh , watching the little bars change .Grad B: So , which is my bar? Mah ! Number one .Grad A: Yep .Grad E: Sibilance . Sibilance .Grad A: So , actually , if you guys wannago ahead and read digits now , as long as you 've signed the consent form , that 's alright .Grad E: Arewe supposed to read digits at the same time ?Grad A: No . No .Grad E: Oh , OK .Grad A: Each individually. We 're talking about doing all at the same time but I think cognitively that would be really difficult .{vocalsound} To try to read them while everyone else is .Grad E: Everyone would need extreme focus.Grad A: So , when you 're reading the digit strings , the first thing to do is just say which transcript you're on .Professor C: Other way . We m We may wind up with ver We {disfmarker} we may need versionsof all this garbage .Grad B: For our stuff . Yeah .Professor C: Yeah .Grad A: Um . So the first thing you 'dwanna do is just say which transcript you 're on .Professor C: Yeah .Grad A: So . You can see thetranscript ? There 's two large number strings on the digits ? So you would just read that one . And thenyou read each line with a small pause between the lines . And the pause is just so the person transcribingit can tell where one line ends and the other begins . And I 'll give {disfmarker} I 'll read the digit stringsfirst , so can see how that goes . Um . Again , I 'm not sure how much I should talk about {pause} stuffbefore everyone 's here .Professor C: Mmm . Well , we have one more coming .Grad A: OK . Well , whydon't I go ahead and read digit strings and then we can go on from there .Professor C: OK . Well , we canstart doing it .Grad A: Thanks . So , uh , just also a note on wearing the microphones . All of you look likeyou 're doing it reasonably correctly , but you want it about two thumb widths away from your mouth ,and then , at the corner . And that 's so that you minimize breath sounds , so that when you 're breathing, you don't breathe into the mike . Um . Yeah , that 's good . And uh {disfmarker} So , everyone needs tofill out , only once , the speaker form and the consent form . And the short form {disfmarker} I mean ,you should read the consent form , but uh , the thing to notice is that we will give you an opportunity toedit a all the transcripts . So , if you say things and you don't want them to be released to the generalpublic , which , these will be available at some point to anyone who wants them , uh , you 'll be given anopportunity by email , uh , to bleep out any portions you don't like . Um . On the speaker form just fill outas much of the information as you can . If you 're not exactly sure about the region , we 're not exactlysure either . So , don't worry too much about it . The {disfmarker} It 's just self rating . Um . And I thinkthat 's about it . I mean , should I {disfmarker} Do you want me to talk at all about why we 're doing thisand what this project is ?Professor C: Um , yeah .Grad A: or {disfmarker} ?Professor C: No . There was{disfmarker} there was {disfmarker} Let 's see . Oh {disfmarker}Grad E: Does Nancy know that we 'remeeting in here ?Grad B: I sent an email .Professor C: She got an emai she was notified .Grad E: Ohyeah , she got an e Yeah , yeah .Professor C: Whether she knows {vocalsound} is another question . Um. So are the people going to be identified by name ?Grad A: Well , what we 're gonna {disfmarker} we 'llanonymize it in the transcript . Um , but not in the audio .Professor C: Right .Grad A: So theProfessor C:OK . So , then in terms of people worrying about , uh , excising things from the transcript , it 's unlikely .Since it {disfmarker} it does isn't attributed . Oh , I see , but the a but the {disfmarker} but the{disfmarker}Grad A: Right , so if I said , \" Oh , hi Jerry , how are you ? \" , we 're not gonna go throughand cancel out the \" Jerry \"s .Professor C: Yeah . Sure .Grad A: Um , so we will go through and , in thespeaker ID tags there 'll be , you know , M - one O seven , M - one O eight .Professor C: Right .Grad A:Um , but uh ,Professor C: Right .Grad A: um , it w uh , I don't know a good way of doing it on the audio ,and still have people who are doing discourse research be able to use the data .Professor C: OK . Mm -hmm . No , I {disfmarker} I wasn't complaining ,Grad A: Yep .Professor C: I just wanted to understand.Grad A: Right .Professor C: OK .Grad B: Well , we can make up aliases for each of us .Grad A: Yeah , Imean , whatever you wanna do is fine ,Professor C: Right .Grad F: OK .Grad A: but we find that{disfmarker} We want the meeting to be as natural as possible . So , we 're trying to do real meetings.Professor C: OK .Grad A: And so we don't wanna have to do aliasesProfessor C: Right .Grad A: and we"} {"doc_id":"doc_46","qid":"","text":"Industrial Designer: Oops That's as far as it goes {vocalsound} .Project Manager: Hi guys uh goodmorning everybody here . And uh I want to introduce myself , uh my name is uh Shrida Daseri and uhI'm a project manager for this new project which we are going to discuss now . So I want to introducefirst of all uh the names and the colleagues here . And what you're uh drawing ?User Interface:{vocalsound} Uh sure my name is Agnes and I'm an user {disfmarker} usability user interface designer.Marketing: {vocalsound} My name is Ed and I do accounting .Project Manager: Uh how you spell yourname uh ?Marketing: E_D_ .Project Manager: E_D_ okay .Marketing: Mm .Project Manager: And?Industrial Designer: Do you also do marketing ?Marketing: {vocalsound} No {vocalsound} .ProjectManager: So only accounting ? Okay .Marketing: Accounting , yes .Project Manager: And ?IndustrialDesigner: And I'm Christine ,Project Manager: Mm-hmm .Industrial Designer: and my role in this uhscenario is to be the industrial designer .Project Manager: Industrial designer .Industrial Designer: ButI'm not really one .Project Manager: So who is uh marketing , nobody in the marketMarketing: Marketingis uh , is me {vocalsound} .Project Manager: It's you , okay . So thanks for coming for the meeting firstof all , and uh we have a long time , just twenty-five minutes to discuss about uh this project and the theproject initiation . First of all I want to ask uh Mister Ed about your uh marketing plan and your productplan and uh {disfmarker}Marketing: {vocalsound} Well I think that we'll see that throughout the day inhow we're going to put this together as a marketing to to market the product . We'll have to see on athrough discussion on where we're gonna go from here and from {disfmarker} with this .ProjectManager: Mm-hmm but uh do you already have like a functional design or a technical design or{disfmarker}Marketing: {vocalsound} Uh for the moment not yet .Project Manager: Oh for the momentnot yet , okay , but uh what's what's your uh {disfmarker} do you have some project plan , somethingwith you or {disfmarker}Marketing: {vocalsound} Good question {vocalsound} . No , this is like I saidthat we have to be discussed between all of us and we'll go from there . We'll have to {disfmarker}simply we'll have to work on it together .Project Manager: Mm-hmm . Okay , so uh by when you thinkyou can uh give me some kind of uh project plan , okay , a discussion with uh {disfmarker}Marketing:Certainly by the next meeting .Project Manager: By next meeting , okay that will be great . Uh Okay , sothere's any questions or uh first of all about uh this project ?Industrial Designer: What is the goal of theproject ?Project Manager: Uh the goal of the project I think maybe I'll uh hand out to the Ed , okay , so toexplain uh what is the project because he's in the sales and the accounting .Marketing:{vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Marketing: I'm in the sales I'm supposed to explain themwhat to do {vocalsound} . We have to define exactly what our product is , from uh {disfmarker}ProjectManager: Yes , so can you explain uh what exactly the product is ?Marketing: From what I had in mindwe're supposed to be marketing coffee , is that right ?Project Manager: Oh I think uh , if I'm not wrong ,we're making the remote control .User Interface: Um I was wondering {disfmarker}Marketing: Remotecontrols , 'cause I had two different things . I had a first part of mine was to make a remote control for anew f remote control for television , and afterward I had a discussion about coffee so{vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound} Yes .Marketing: we'll start with the remote control fortelevision then . So we're have to design something that is very user friendly .Project Manager: Mm-hmm.User Interface: Mm-hmm .Marketing: Something uh visual that has something that will will draw peopleto buy the product ,Project Manager: Mm-hmm .Marketing: because I think everybody's experienced withuh remote controls , and some remote controls are are worth uh throwing out the window . Uh th most ofthem ar I don't know we're have to come up with a new idea on how to make it a lot easier to use,Project Manager: Mm-hmm .Marketing: 'cause a lot of times uh spend uh half a day through theinstruction book trying to figure out how to use it .Project Manager: Mm-hmm .User Interface: Mm.Project Manager: And uh what abo uh Christine , what about your uh the industrial design plan ? Are youhave a design already on this product or uh you're still working on the design ?Industrial Designer: Umno , I I have not begun working on the design ,Project Manager: Mm-hmm .Industrial Designer: and um Iuh I actually didn't know we were designing a remote control , I thought we were designing a new"} {"doc_id":"doc_47","qid":"","text":"PhD A: It 's not very significant .Professor B: Uh , channel one . Yes .Grad D: Channel three .Professor B:OK .PhD F: Mm - hmm .Grad D: Channel three .PhD A: TaGrad D: Channel three . Alright .Professor B:OK , did you solve speech recognition last week ?Grad E: Almost .Professor B: Alright ! Let 's do imageprocessing .PhD C: Yes , again .PhD A: Great .PhD C: We did it again , Morgan .Professor B: Alright !GradE: Doo - doop , doo - doo .PhD A: What 's wrong with {disfmarker} ?Professor B: OK . It 's April fifth .Actually , Hynek should be getting back in town shortly if he isn't already .PhD C: Is he gonna come here?Professor B: Uh . Well , we 'll drag him here . I know where he is .PhD C: So when you said \" in town \" ,you mean {pause} Oregon .Professor B: U u u u uh , I meant , you know , this end of the world , yeah ,{vocalsound} is really what I meant ,PhD C: Oh .Grad E: Doo , doo - doo .Professor B: uh , cuz he 'sbeen in Europe .Grad E: Doo - doo .Professor B: So .PhD C: I have something just fairly brief to report on.Professor B: Mmm .PhD C: Um , I did some {pause} experim uh , uh , just a few more experimentsbefore I had to , {vocalsound} uh , go away for the w well , that week .Professor B: Great !PhD C: Was itlast week or whenever ? Um , so what I was started playing with was the {disfmarker} th again , this isthe HTK back - end . And , um , I was curious because the way that they train up the models ,{vocalsound} they go through about four sort of rounds of {disfmarker} of training . And in the firstround they do {disfmarker} uh , I think it 's three iterations , and for the last three rounds e e they doseven iterations of re - estimation in each of those three . And so , you know , that 's part of what takesso long to train the {disfmarker} the {disfmarker} the back - end for this .Professor B: I 'm sorry , Ididn't quite get that . There 's {disfmarker} there 's four and there 's seven and {disfmarker} I{disfmarker} I 'm sorry .PhD C: Yeah . Uh , maybe I should write it on the board . So , {vocalsound}there 's four rounds of training . Um , I g I g I guess you could say iterations . The first one is three , thenseven , seven , and seven . And what these numbers refer to is the number of times that the , uh , HMMre - estimation is run . It 's this program called H EProfessor B: But in HTK , what 's the differencebetween , uh , a {disfmarker} an inner loop and an outer loop in these iterations ?PhD C: OK . So whathappens is , um , at each one of these points , you increase the number of Gaussians in the model.Professor B: Yeah . Oh , right ! This was the mix up stuff .PhD C: Yeah . The mix up .Professor B: That 'sright .PhD C: Right .Professor B: I remember now .PhD C: And so , in the final one here , you end up with, uh {disfmarker} for all of the {disfmarker} the digit words , you end up with , uh , three {pause}mixtures per state ,Professor B: Yeah .PhD C: eh , in the final {pause} thing . So I had done someexperiments where I was {disfmarker} I {disfmarker} I want to play with the number of mixtures.Professor B: Mm - hmm .PhD C: But , um , uh , I wanted to first test to see if we actually need to do{pause} this many iterations early on .Grad E: Uh , one , two ,Professor B: Mm - hmm .PhD C: And so ,um , I {disfmarker} I ran a couple of experiments where I {vocalsound} reduced that to l to be three ,two , two , {vocalsound} uh , five , I think , and I got almost the exact same results .Professor B: Mm -hmm .PhD C: And {disfmarker} but it runs much much faster . So , um , I {disfmarker} I think m{pause} it only took something like , uh , three or four hours to do the full training ,Professor B: Asopposed to {disfmarker} ?PhD F: Good .PhD C: as opposed to wh what , sixteen hours or something likethat ? I mean , it takes {disfmarker} you have to do an overnight basically , the way it is set up now .PhDF: Yeah . It depends .PhD A: Mm - hmm .Professor B: Mm - hmm .PhD C: So , uh , even we don't doanything else , doing something like this could allow us to turn experiments around a lot faster .ProfessorB: And then when you have your final thing , do a full one , so it 's {disfmarker}PhD C: And when youhave your final thing , we go back to this .PhD F: Yeah .PhD C: So , um , and it 's a real simple change tomake . I mean , it 's like one little text file you edit and change those numbers , and you don't doanything else .PhD F: Oh , this is a {disfmarker}PhD A: Mm - hmm .PhD C: And then you just run .PhD F:OK .PhD C: So it 's a very simple change to make and it doesn't seem to hurt all that much .PhD A: Soyou {disfmarker} you run with three , two , two , five ? That 's aPhD C: So I {disfmarker} Uh , I{disfmarker} I have to look to see what the exact numbers were .PhD A: Yeah .PhD C: I {disfmarker} Ithought was , like , three , two , two , five ,PhD A: Mm - hmm .PhD C: but I I 'll {disfmarker} I 'll double"} {"doc_id":"doc_48","qid":"","text":"Lynne Neagle AM: Good afternoon. Can I welcome Members to the virtual meeting of the Children, YoungPeople and Education Committee this afternoon? In accordance with Standing Order 34.19, I'vedetermined that the public are excluded from the committee's meeting, in order to protect public health.In accordance with Standing Order 34.21, notice of this decision was included in the agenda for thismeeting, which was published last Thursday. This meeting is, however, being broadcast live onSenedd.tv, with all participants joining via video-conference. A record of proceedings will be published asusual. Aside from the procedural adaptation related to conducting proceedings remotely, all otherStanding Order requirements for committees remain in place. The meeting is bilingual, and simultaneoustranslation from Welsh to English is available. Can I remind everyone that the microphones will becontrolled centrally, so there's no need to turn them on and off individually? We've received apologies forabsence from Hefin David AM, and there is no substitution. Can I ask Members if there are anydeclarations of interest, please? No. Okay, thank you. Can I just note for the record that if for any reasonI drop out of the meeting, the committee has agreed that Dawn Bowden AM will temporarily chair while Itry to rejoin? Moving on, then, to item 2 this afternoon, which is an evidence session with the WelshGovernment in relation to the impact of the coronavirus pandemic on health and social services as theyrelate to children and young people in Wales. I'm very pleased to welcome Vaughan Gething AM, theMinister for Health and Social Services; Julie Morgan AM, Deputy Minister for Health and Social Services;Albert Heaney, deputy director general of the health and social services group; Nicola Edwards, deputydirector, childcare, play and early years; Jean White, chief nursing officer; and Tracey Breheny, who isdeputy director of mental health, substance misuse and vulnerable groups. Thank you all very much foryour attendance today—we appreciate your time. We've got lots of questions that we'd like to cover,which we'll go straight into, with questions from Siân Gwenllian.Sian Gwenllian AM: Good afternoon. Howmuch do we understand about how this virus impacts children and young people, and their role intransmitting the virus? And how important is it that this is considered in the Welsh Government's exitstrategy, especially in the context of reopening schools?Vaughan Gething AM: Okay. I think it's fair to saythat our understanding is developing across all age ranges about the virus and its impact. It's still thecase that children and young people are less likely to be affected significantly by COVID-19 than peoplewith a range of healthcare conditions, and in particular the age grade that we've seen, and that'sunderpinned the advice we've given to the whole population about self-isolation by people in agecategories, as well as the extremely vulnerable group we advise to shield. We still don't understandeverything about the role that children have to play in the transmitting of the virus, and this is one of thedifficulties we face. Because in cold and flu, children transmit the virus and they're also susceptible, inparticular to the flu, as well; that's why we have a childhood immunisation programme for the flu as well.We do know that there's some developing evidence about what's called a Kawasaki-like syndrome, butthat's affecting very small numbers of children. We have one possible case in Wales—a child who's incritical care—but that isn't confirmed. That's still a developing knowledge base. So, the rest of the worldis still trying to understand that too. But the generals still apply—that children are less likely to beaffected than older people, but can nevertheless still become unwell, and that's, if you like, one of the fewpositives in this condition. But as I say, we're still learning, so I won't try and present a fully accurate orfinalised picture of knowledge in this area.Sian Gwenllian AM: And in terms—[Inaudible.]VaughanGething AM: Chair. Sorry. Excuse me, Chair. Sorry—with apologies to the Member, my translationstopped after a while, so I heard the first part translated, and then it just fell off. I'm really sorry, but Ididn't want to try to answer a different question to the one that may be being asked, and don't thinkthat's fair to the Member or other members of the committee.Lynne Neagle AM: Can we check thattranslation is back on, please, and maybe Siân could repeat her question?Vaughan Gething AM: I canhear it, yes.Lynne Neagle AM: Okay, Siân, would you mind repeating that, please?Sian Gwenllian AM: Notat all. I was discussing NHS services, including critical care services, and I was asking whether there issufficient capacity in place to manage any increase. We, of course, hope that there won't be any increase,"} {"doc_id":"doc_49","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: So {disfmarker} Hello . {vocalsound}Marketing: Good afternoon . Sorry I'm a little late.Project Manager: No problem .Marketing: Got stuck in the traffic .Project Manager: Okay .{vocalsound}User Interface: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Project Manager: That'spossible on uh this time of day . Starts at three o'clock . Uh {disfmarker} {vocalsound}Marketing: Yeah.Project Manager: Uh , let me see . Our fourth and last meeting . There he is . Yes . Okay this our lastmeeting . In this meeting we will discuss our final design . And we will do some evaluation about the , notonly the product , but also the project . And then we're going to close the project today as well . So afterthis you will be uh free to go and uh spend all your money . {vocalsound}User Interface:{vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}Project Manager:And this uh design , detailed design meeting uh we will discuss uh the look-and-feel of the design , theusability interface design , and we will do the product evaluation . Um , in order to do that we have thisagenda . We'll have the prototype presentation first . Then we will set up some evaluation cri um criteria .{vocalsound} Then we will look at the finance . Uh we will have to see if everything we wanna do is alsopossible within our budget . Because everything costs money , and the more functions you wanna havethe more money it will cost . So we have to see if it fits within the twelve and a half Euro per remote . Butwe will see that later . Then we will do the project uh evaluation , and the closing after that .IndustrialDesigner: {vocalsound}Project Manager: We've got forty minutes . So we will be finished at half pastthree . But first um we will do the {disfmarker} this is prototype presentation . So , if some yeah ifsomebody wants step forward .Industrial Designer: Okay . Well this is what me and Richard came up with. The default spot for the on-off button . The mute button just below that . Then there's the volume andchannel selectors . Simple plus-minus button . Uh we thought of a help button . If you hold it and youpress another button , uh the help goes to the L_C_D_ screen . Then there's the zero to {disfmarker} oneto zero buttons . A button for teletext . A button for the subtitles . And the company logo . So it's rathersimple prototype . And uh we'll have to see from testing uh how the users take it .Project Manager: Okay.Marketing: Um , {vocalsound} is this the moment where we ask or can ask questions about thefunctionality ?User Interface: So {disfmarker} Yeah . Yeah .Industrial Designer: Sure uh just pop in atany time .Marketing: Um , when you're in teletext there usually are buttons where you just you just pressit and you g go to the next teletext page .User Interface: Uh , that's just uh the normal uh as th as thenormal uh remote controls uh {disfmarker} So um {disfmarker} You put it uh {disfmarker} you umcame in uh page uh one hundred . Now you can use the normal uh one to zero buttons .Marketing:Mm-hmm .User Interface: And you {disfmarker} But you can also uh use the um button th for uhchanging the the channel . S so uh the shifting uh button . Uh for uh yeah shif shifting up in uh on t on tuh teletext , and shifting uh down . So {disfmarker}Marketing: Okay . Okay . Um {disfmarker} Yeah.Project Manager: Okay . Uh but um I thought in a few meetings earlier we uh uh tried to keep it uhsimple . Uh just a few buttons and large buttons .User Interface: Oh yeah ?Project Manager: But uh Ithink these are altogether quite a quite a few buttons . So I'm wondering if we if we neely {disfmarker}really need all of those buttons .User Interface: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: I think ifyou look at most controls , they've got more buttons than this .Project Manager: That's right .UserInterface: Yeah .Industrial Designer: And well the on-off button , it's it's a necessity .Project Manager:Yeah .User Interface: Yeah .Industrial Designer: You can't drop that one . The volume and channelbuttons , you need you obviously need those those .Project Manager: Yeah .Industrial Designer: Themute button could be replaced uh by pressing the volume-down button twice . So we could cancel thatone . I think the help button really is necessaryUser Interface: Yeah yeah .Industrial Designer: becausethere's no other way to know when someone wants to know what a button does .Project Manager: Mm.User Interface: Uh , or you can build in uh when you press uh one button uh uh {disfmarker}ProjectManager: Long time . Yeah .User Interface: Yeah .Project Manager: If you put {disfmarker}UserInterface: But m Yeah . We disc discuss that already . But uh we think uh old people uh don't know thatuh option . So uh they just put in uh put {vocalsound} press uh the button and uh {disfmarker}Project"} {"doc_id":"doc_50","qid":"","text":"Grad A: OK , we 're on .Professor B: Yeah .Grad A: So , I think this is gonna be a pretty short meetingbecause I have four agenda items , three of them were requested by Jane who is not gonna be at themeeting today . So . {vocalsound} The uh first was transcription status . Does anyone besides Janeknow what the transcription status is ?PhD F: Um , sort of , I do , peripherally .PhD C: Is that English?PhD F: Um {disfmarker} Well first of all with IBM I got a note from Brian yesterday saying that theyfinally made the tape for the thing that we sent them a {pause} week or week and a half agoPhD D: That's our system .Grad A: Ugh !PhD F: and that it 's gone out to the transcribers and hopefully next week we'll have the transcription back from that .Grad A: C can I have a pen ?PhD F: Um {disfmarker} Janeseems to be um moving right along on the transcriptions from the ICSI side . She 's assigned , I thinkprobably five or six m more meetings .PhD C: Yeah , I think we 're up to MR thirteen or something .PhDD: Mmm .PhD F: Yeah , so um , I guess she 's hired some new transcribersPhD D: Speaking{disfmarker}Grad E: Which meetings is she transcribing ?PhD F: and {disfmarker} Um well we 've{disfmarker} we 've run out of E D Us because a certain number of them are um , sort of awaiting to goto IBM .Grad E: OK .PhD C: For IBM , yeah .PhD D: Hmm .Grad E: OK .PhD F: and the rest are in processbeing transcribed uh here .PhD D: So does she have transcribers right now who are basically sitting idlebecause there 's no data back from IBMGrad E: So we 're doing some in parallel .Grad A: Yep .PhD F: No.Grad A: No , no .PhD F: Oh no no .Grad A: We haven't done that process .PhD D: no ?PhD F: No . We 'renot waiting on them .Grad A: So . They ' r they 're doing the full transcription process .PhD D: Oh . Oh ,OK .Grad E: So they 're just doing their own thing until {disfmarker}PhD F: Yeah .PhD D: Because I{disfmarker} I need to ask Jane whether it 's {disfmarker} it would be OK for her {disfmarker} um , ssome of her people to transcribe uh some of the initial data we got from the SmartKom data collection ,which is these short like five or seven minute sessions .PhD F: We 're doing it in parallel , yeah .Grad E:OK .PhD C: Yep .PhD D: Um and we want it {disfmarker} You know , we need {disfmarker} The{disfmarker} Again , we {disfmarker} we have a similar uh logistic set - up where we are supposed tosend the data to MunichGrad A: Right .PhD D: and get it transcribed and get it back . But to get going wewould like some of the data transcribed right away so we can get started .Grad A: Yep , sounds familiar.PhD D: And so um I wanted to ask Jane if {disfmarker} if uh , you know , maybe one of theirtranscribers could {disfmarker} could do {disfmarker} I mean since these are very short , that shouldreally be uh ,Professor B: Mm - hmm .PhD D: um {disfmarker} It 's {disfmarker}PhD C: There 's onlytwo channels . So it 's only {disfmarker} Yeah .PhD D: Yeah .PhD C: As the synthesis doesn't have to betranscribed I think .PhD D: It 's only two {disfmarker} Right , sPhD C: So .PhD D: Yeah . So{disfmarker} So it 's basically one channel to transcribe . And it 's {disfmarker} One session is only uhlike seven {disfmarker}Professor B: So that should have ma many fewer {disfmarker} And it 's also notuh a bunch of interruptions with people and all that ,PhD D: Right . And some of it is read speech , so wecould give them the {disfmarker} the thing that they 're readingProfessor B: right ? So . Yeah .PhD D:and they just may {disfmarker}Grad A: Make sure it 's right .PhD C: Yep .PhD D: And so um , um , Iguess since she 's {disfmarker} I was gonna ask her but since she 's not around I {disfmarker} maybe I'll {disfmarker}Professor B: Yeah , well it certainly seems {disfmarker}PhD D: Uh if {disfmarker} if that's OK with you to {disfmarker} to , you know , get that stuff uh {disfmarker} to ask her for that , then I'll do that .Professor B: Yeah . Yeah , if we 're held up on this other stuff a little bit in order to encompassthat , that 's OK because I I um , I mean I still have high hopes that the that the IBM pipeline 'll work outfor us , so it 's {disfmarker}PhD D: Yeah . OK , yeah .Professor B: Yeah .PhD D: Alrighty .PhD F: Oh ,yeah , and also related to the transcription stuff , so I 've been trying to keep a web page uh up to date fshowing what the current status is of the trans of all the things we 've collected and what stage eachmeeting is in , in terms of whether it 's {disfmarker}Grad A: Can you mail that out to the list ?PhD F: Mm- hmm , yeah I will . I {disfmarker} That 's the thing that I sent out just to foo people saying can youupdate these pagesGrad A: Oh , OK , OK .PhD F: and so that 's where I 'm putting it but I 'll {disfmarker}I 'll send it out to the list telling people to look at it .Grad A: Yeah , I haven't done that . So . I have lots"} {"doc_id":"doc_51","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: Okay um , welcome to our detailed design meeting . I'm pretty excited . Let's start it'sapproximately fifteen forty or something like that . Okay um the agenda {disfmarker} we're gonna do anopening and then um I'll talk about the minutes from the last meeting , what we d discussed um , thenwe'll have the prototype presentation and a look at the evaluation criteria . We'll look at the finances andfinally a {disfmarker} do a production evaluation and close . So , starting off with the um last{disfmarker} the last one , oh I don't have it here um , but we talked about energy , we're gonna use akinetic battery um , we want to use a simple chip , because we're not gonna need a a shuffle um , we'regonna need a scroll um , we're choosing a latex case w in fruity colours that's curved and um we're usingpush buttons uh with a supplement of an on-screen menu . And it sounded like we had set um like eightor nine buttons , including five pre-set channels . Okay ? Let's do the look and feel design presentationfirst .User Interface: Right , do you wanna start ?Industrial Designer: Right , well we made three differentprototypes and I guess we'll start with with this one . Um we have our colours not {disfmarker} are notfixed , but this is the general shape . Um it's {disfmarker} you hold it sort of either like like this in yourleft hand or you switch it over and uh it's easily adaptable to either hand . You can push the buttons withyour thumb like a mobile phone , or you can push them with your index finger of your other hand , oreven {disfmarker} I mean there's a whole variety , you can hold it like this and press it with your sameindex finger . Uh we have the on off button at the tip , very visible , very big . We have our up and downbuttons , which are also gonna be our channel selectors , and we have our little menu button here . If youpush {disfmarker} if you're just pushing these normally , they're the menu buttons , if {disfmarker} uhthe volume buttons rather . If you press select once , they become channel changing buttons . If wepress select three times , the menu with the other features and pro possibly also with your T_V_ channelchoices shows up , and you have your five presets down here . Um if people wanna grab hold of that , seehow it feels in your hand . That's our number one prototype . Um do you wanna present the potato,Project Manager: {gap} like a little lightning in it .Industrial Designer: or shall I present the Martian?User Interface: Okay ,Project Manager: The little lightning bolt in it , very cute .User Interface: um{disfmarker} What {disfmarker} We call that one the rhombus ,Marketing: I could {disfmarker}ProjectManager: The v the rhombus rhombus ?User Interface: uh the rhombus .Industrial Designer: That's therhombus , yep .User Interface: Um this one is known as the potato , uh it'sIndustrial Designer:{vocalsound}User Interface: it's a {vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound}User Interface: how can Ipresent it ? It's an ergonomic shape , so it it fits in your hand nicely . Um it's designed to be used eitherin your left hand or or in your right hand . Um I've gone here just for just for four buttons on this one .Um the two blue buttons here are for adjusting the volume . So you've got volume up and volume downon the other side here . Um the red ones are for uh changing channels , channel up and channel downand that's um moves between your favourite channels that you've selected . Uh this middle button herebrings up the on-screen menu and when you're working in the on-screen menu you use the other fourbuttons to navigate around the menu system and the middle button uh to select and that's basically it ,that's the potato .Project Manager: Um on , off ?User Interface: Uh that would be one of your channels ,basically ,Project Manager: Okay .User Interface: so like channel zero would be t to switch switch themachine off ,Project Manager: Yeah we turn it off .User Interface: yeah .Marketing: Could the middlebutton of the on-screen menu function as a power button ?User Interface: Um not really ,IndustrialDesigner: {gap}User Interface: it would make it hard to turn the machine off , to turn your T_V_ off.Project Manager: Mm-hmm .Industrial Designer: If you pressed and held it maybe .User Interface: Yeahyeah , that that'd be one way of doing it , yeah . That'd work , yeah .Marketing: If you like held it down ,that would be on off .Industrial Designer: Yeah . On off , that's a possibility , yeah .Project Manager:Okay .Industrial Designer: And then finally we have um the Martian or the pear , either way . Um it's a bitdifferent , just a little bit more of a creative feel . Uh you have the on off toggle stem on the top .{vocalsound} We have the five preset seeds {vocalsound} .Project Manager: {vocalsound}IndustrialDesigner: {vocalsound} And then you have on the sides to make it a little bit more three-dimensional ,"} {"doc_id":"doc_52","qid":"","text":"Grad B: So I guess this is more or less now just to get you up to date , Johno . This is what , uh ,Grad C:This is a meeting for me .Grad B: um , Eva , Bhaskara , and I did .Grad D: Did you add more stuff to it ?{pause} later ?Grad B: Um . Why ?Grad D: Um . I don't know . There were , like , the {disfmarker} youknow , @ @ and all that stuff . But . I thought you {disfmarker} you said you were adding stuffGrad B:Uh , no .Grad D: but {pause} I don't know .Grad B: This is {disfmarker} Um , Ha ! Very nice . Um , sowe thought that , {vocalsound} We can write up uh , an element , and {disfmarker} for each of thesituation nodes that we observed in the Bayes - net ? So . What 's the situation like at the entity that ismentioned ? if we know anything about it ? Is it under construction ? Or is it on fire or something{pause} happening to it ? Or is it stable ? and so forth , going all the way um , f through Parking ,Location , Hotel , Car , Restroom , @ @ {comment} Riots , Fairs , Strikes , or Disasters .Grad C: So is{disfmarker} This is {disfmarker} A situation are {disfmarker} is all the things which can be happeningright now ? Or , what is the situation type ?Grad B: That 's basically {pause} just specifying the{disfmarker} the input for the {disfmarker} w what 'sGrad C: Oh , I see y Why are you specifying it inXML ?Grad B: Um . Just because it forces us to be specific about the values {pause} here ?Grad C: OK.Grad B: And , also , I mean , this is a {disfmarker} what the input is going to be . Right ? So , we will ,uh {disfmarker} This is a schema . This is {disfmarker}Grad C: Well , yeah . I just don't know if this is thl what the {disfmarker} Does {disfmarker} This is what Java Bayes takes ? as a Bayes - net spec ?GradB: No , because I mean if we {disfmarker} I mean we 're sure gonna interface to {disfmarker} We 'regonna get an XML document from somewhere . Right ? And that XML document will say \" We are able to{disfmarker} We were able to observe that w the element , um , @ @ {comment} of the Location thatthe car is near . \" So that 's gonna be {disfmarker} {vocalsound} {comment} Um .Grad C: So this is thesituational context , everything in it . Is that what Situation is short for , shi situational context ?Grad B:Yep .Grad C: OK .Grad B: So this is just , again , a an XML schemata which defines a set of possible , uh ,permissible XML structures , which we view as input into the Bayes - net . Right ?Grad C: And then wecan r {pause} uh possibly run one of them uh transformations ? That put it into the format that theBayes n or Java Bayes or whatever wants ?Grad B: Yea - Are you talking {disfmarker} are you talkingabout the {disfmarker} the structure ?Grad C: Well it {disfmarker}Grad B: I mean when you observe anode .Grad C: When you {disfmarker} when you say {pause} the input to the {pause} v Java Bayes ,{comment} it takes a certain format ,Grad B: Um - hmm .Grad C: right ? Which I don't think is this .Although I don't know .Grad B: No , it 's certainly not this . Nuh .Grad C: So you could just {disfmarker}Couldn't you just run a {disfmarker}Grad B: XSL . {comment} Yeah .Grad C: Yeah . To convert it intothe Java Bayes for format ?Grad B: Yep .Grad C: OK .Grad B: That 's {disfmarker} That 's no problem ,but I even think that , um {disfmarker} I mean , once {disfmarker} Once you have this sort of as{disfmarker} running as a module {disfmarker} Right ? What you want is {disfmarker} You wanna say ,\" OK , give me the posterior probabilities of the Go - there {pause} node , when this is happening . \"Right ? When the person said this , the car is there , it 's raining , and this is happening . And with thisyou can specify the {disfmarker} what 's happening in the situation , and what 's happening with the user. So we get {disfmarker} After we are done , through the Situation we get the User Vector . So , this is a{disfmarker}Grad C: So this is just a specification of all the possible inputs ?Grad B: Yep . And , all thepossible outputs , too . So , we have , um , for example , the , uh , Go - there decision nodeGrad C: OK.Grad B: which has two elements , going - there and its posterior probability , and not - going - there andits posterior probability , because the output is always gonna be all the decision nodes and all the{disfmarker} the {disfmarker} a all the posterior probabilities for all the values .Grad C: And then wewould just look at the , eh , Struct that we wanna look at in terms of if {disfmarker} if we 're only askingabout one of the {disfmarker} So like , if I 'm just interested in the going - there node , I would just pullthat information out of the Struct that gets return that would {disfmarker} that Java Bayes would output?Grad B: Um , pretty much , yes , but I think it 's a little bit more complex . As , if I understand itcorrectly , it always gives you all the posterior probabilities for all the values of all decision nodes . So ,"} {"doc_id":"doc_53","qid":"","text":"The Chair (Hon. Anthony Rota (NipissingTimiskaming, Lib.)): I call this meeting to order. Welcome tomeeting number 22 of the House of Commons Special Committee on the COVID-19 Pandemic. Areminder to all members that in order to avoid issues with sound, members participating in person shouldnot also be connected to the video conference. For those joining via video conference, I would like toremind you that, when speaking, you should be on the same channel as the language you are speaking.As usual, please direct your remarks through the chair. I understand we don't have any ministerialannouncements today, so we'll proceed to presenting petitions. I would like to remind members that anypetition presented during a meeting of the special committee must have already been certified by theclerk of petitions. For members participating in person, we ask that they please come and drop the signedcertificate off at the table once the petition is presented. The first petition will be presented byMs.May.Ms. Elizabeth May (SaanichGulf Islands, GP): Mr. Chair, it's an honour to rise in meeting number22 of the COVID-19 committee, otherwise known as something like the House of Commons. I'm here topresent two petitions containing hundreds of signatures on the issue of the treatment of Falun Gongpractitioners by the People's Republic of China, particularly the practice that's alleged of involuntaryorgan harvesting. The petitioners ask the Government of Canada to condemn this practice and to publiclycall for an end to the persecution of Falun Gong in the People's Republic of China. The second petition isfrom residents throughout SaanichGulf Islands concerned about what was, at the time this petition wassubmitted, a future problem. It remains an issue, and I present it on behalf of petitioners who wish theGovernment of Canada not to put public funds into purchasing or maintaining the Trans Mountain pipelineor towards any expansion of the pipeline.The Chair: Next we'll go to Ms. Kwan.Ms. Jenny Kwan(Vancouver East, NDP): Mr. Chair, I rise to table two petitions. The first petition deals with the COVID-19situation. The petitioners note the pandemic is having a devastating impact on many Canadiansnationwide, especially those who have low to modest income, small business gig workers, freelancers,artists, film industry workers, non-salaried workers and individuals on fixed incomes such as seniors andthose on disability. It further notes that rent, mortgage and utility payments are due at the end of eachmonth, putting countless Canadians at risk of losing their housing. It is paramount there be safeself-isolation opportunities for all individuals in this country. To that end, the petitioners are calling forthe government to immediately enact a nationwide rent freeze, eviction freeze, mortgage freeze andutility freeze, enforce mortgage deferrals for homeowners without penalty or interest charges fromfinancial institutions and provide direct assistance in the form of a monthly, universal, direct payment of$2,000 per month for all, with an additional $250 per child immediately. The second petition deals withthe Trans Mountain pipeline expansion. These petitioners join the hundreds of thousands of people whoare opposed to the expansion. Trans Mountain, in building the pipeline, brings massive environmentaland economic risk with no substantial benefit to British Columbia or to local residents. Approximately40,000 barrels of oil have already leaked from existing Kinder Morgan pipelines, including two major spillsin Burnaby since 2007. I might note, Mr. Chair, that just this past weekend there was yet another spill tothe tune of 1,195 barrels here in British Columbia. There is no known scientific technology to clean up thebitumen when there is a spill, and the number of tankers would go from eight to 34 per month into theBurrard Inlet. It puts at risk many residential neighbourhoods and the traditional territories of at least 15first nations.The Chair: May I interrupt for a moment, Ms. Kwan. I want to remind all members in theHouse that when presenting a petition, the idea is to be as concise as possible. Ms. Kwan, I'll let you wrapup, please.Ms. Jenny Kwan: Thank you, Mr. Chair. The petitioners are calling for the government toimmediately act to prevent this new oil pipeline from proceeding through British Columbia.The Chair:Thank you. We'll now go to Mr. Genuis.Mr. Garnett Genuis (Sherwood ParkFort Saskatchewan, CPC): Mr.Chair, I have four petitions to present today. The first petition reflects the outrage of my constituents atthe ever-expanding order in council from the government banning more and more firearms. In particular,the petitioners highlight the failure of the government to act on the issue of illegal guns. The petitionersnote that virtually all violent crimes committed in Canada, including the recent shooting in Nova Scotia,"} {"doc_id":"doc_54","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: Afternoon guys . It's gonna be {gap} .Marketing: Rock and roll .Project Manager: Oh .{vocalsound} {gap} 'Kay .Marketing: So do we need to re-train Mike on how to put his mic on ?ProjectManager: We may do .Industrial Designer: Think sMarketing: Okay , can he get it all by himself this time?Project Manager: I dunno , I'm feeling like a big boy .Industrial Designer: Mm . ProMarketing:{gap}Industrial Designer: Probably not , 'cause he's 'S been listening to {gap} too much .Marketing: So{disfmarker}Industrial Designer: He's getting retarded . Yay .Marketing: I believe I can fly .UserInterface: Alright well we got some exciting stuff for you guys .Industrial Designer: Or not .UserInterface: Or not . {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Yeah .Marketing: Just what I needed was somethingexciting . Remember , I'm an old man .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Project Manager: 'Kay , ready togo ?User Interface: All ready .Project Manager: 'Kay so we've got our conceptual design meeting.Industrial Designer: Apparently I'm old as well .Project Manager: Hopefully we've all got exciting ideasnow .Marketing: Thirty's really young , eh ?User Interface: {vocalsound} We do .Project Manager: Uh kexciting ideas . 'Kay so here's our agenda our agenda . UmIndustrial Designer: {vocalsound}ProjectManager: I'm gonna open . I'm gonna talk for a bit about what we're gonna do . I'm gonna take somenotes . We're gonna all do a presentation , and then hopefully we're gonna make some decisions now .{vocalsound} Yep . {vocalsound} Well when I say hopefully , we have to . SoUser Interface: Alright.Project Manager: I'm gonna let you guys talk before we make decisions . And does anyone really want togo first ?User Interface: I guess I'll go first .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Project Manager: You p two?User Interface: Yeah .Project Manager: What's {disfmarker}User Interface: Component , I think . Yeah.Project Manager: Components design .User Interface: Yep that's it .Industrial Designer: Presented byname . {vocalsound}User Interface: My name is {vocalsound} .Project Manager: {vocalsound} Yourname is name ?Marketing: Jose he man is .User Interface: My name is name .Project Manager: Huh hiname .Industrial Designer: My name is Inigo Montoya .Project Manager: {vocalsound}IndustrialDesigner: You killed my father .User Interface: {vocalsound} Sorry I did this in a bit of a rush .IndustrialDesigner: Prepare to die . {vocalsound}Marketing: N name .Project Manager: Right . {vocalsound}UserInterface: So so here's a look inside your really old-looking remote control . Um you've got {vocalsound}a printed {vocalsound} a printed uh circuit board here , and you've got all these buttons which kindapress down little rubber {vocalsound} nubbies into these little holes that activate {disfmarker}Marketing:{vocalsound}Project Manager: We've all broke a remote control ri um s yeah . {vocalsound}UserInterface: Yeah we've all broken a remote control .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Marketing:{vocalsound} I've {disfmarker}User Interface: So you've also got um {disfmarker} you've got your chiphere , your batteries here , and some sorta electronics . Um {disfmarker}Marketing: I just love you techguys , huh .Industrial Designer: Yeah there's a thingy and a dingy and {disfmarker}Project Manager:{vocalsound} You press this and it does thUser Interface: Well {vocalsound} {disfmarker}Marketing:{vocalsound} Yeah y do jabber {vocalsound}User Interface: so you've got {disfmarker} here's here's atransistor , and this amplifies your signal ,Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}User Interface: um you'vegot the L_E_D_ here on the end of the uh uh on the end of the printed circuit board . Um you've got acouple diodes here for I don't know who and whatnot {vocalsound} .Project Manager: {vocalsound} Idunno who and whatnot .User Interface: So {disfmarker} {vocalsound} exactly .Industrial Designer: Nah.User Interface: So um we've got a {disfmarker} i in this in this uh drawing he uh in this example here ,this is a eighteen pin um uh chip {vocalsound} I dunno .Marketing: P Yeah .User Interface: Uh it's twodouble A_ batteries .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}User Interface: This is pretty standard remote . Sohere are options for our power sources . You can use a basic battery , which we've already discussed , um{vocalsound} th our tech department also said we have the option of doing some kind of hand dynamowhere maybe you crank it or something like that .Project Manager: {vocalsound} 'Kay .{vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} I wanna change that {vocalsound} .User Interface: Idon't know if that's really {vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound} I I gotta I gotta flashlight , and uh{disfmarker}User Interface: I don't know we got some qu crazy guys down there in that department so"} {"doc_id":"doc_55","qid":"","text":"Marketing: Just put it on the deskt {gap} desktop .Project Manager: No on the desktop you'll find youshould find that there's a project documents link . A well actually just there .Marketing: Projectdocuments ,Project Manager: Yeah . That's it .Marketing: yeah .Project Manager: If you dump it in there.Marketing: What's your username ?Project Manager: Your username .Marketing: What's your usernameand password ? Mm-hmm . Sorry .Project Manager: Okay .Marketing: Okay . There we go .ProjectManager: Excellent . Right . Hopefully that's us ready to uh to go . So . Functional design meeting . We'llhave to flesh out some of the uh stuff . Um we'll start with the minutes of the last meeting . Not a lotthankfully to say . We introduced ourselves , discussed the possibility of a macro facility , interacinteracting the T_V_ a bit more , um mentioning of bar-code , joystick for user manipulation , um andergonomics of the remote control as well . Um it's come to my attention the following . Teletext hasbecome outdated due to the populat popularity of the internet . Remote control should only be used forthe T_V_ . Um due for uh time to market and possibly also cost issues . Um also key is the corporateimage should stay recognisable , um f uh your colour and slogan of course is down at the bottom there .Um . Now . Just to say quickly uh I would have thought that only being used for a television the macrofacility may now not be required .User Interface: Mm .Project Manager: Um or at l its functionality wouldhave been of limited use . So to the point in my opinion anyway that it might not be worth pursuing . Umif anybody disagrees we can uh definitely say so . Um and hopefully we'll just crack on and we'll geteverything going . Um I'd like to if possible hear from our Marketing Expert first , to help us gain an ideaof where we're going to go .Marketing: 'Kay .Project Manager: So um I'll just load up your presentationfrom here if you want .Marketing: Sure . Um , sh would you like to {vocalsound} I'll just do it from here.Project Manager: Yep . Sorry . Uh . Is yours the {disfmarker}Marketing: Um , try second one maybe .Try it , yeah maybe .Project Manager: Oh sorry . Okay , right .Marketing: Yeah . Okay . Oh , I thought Iput in my last name , I guess not , but {gap} .Project Manager: Uh if you {disfmarker} that's all right . Ifyou {disfmarker} do you want me to just cycle through it for you or ?Marketing: Okay . {vocalsound} Ohyeah , that'd be fine , that'd be great .Project Manager: Yeah ?Marketing: Okay . Functional requirementby me Ebenezer . {vocalsound}Project Manager: Okay .Marketing: Okay , so um we did some research ,we asked one hundred people their opinions on remote controls . We asked some uh open endedquestions , just , what are your opinions on the remote control , got a lot of re responses , and we askedsome very specific questions , and we got a lot of good feedback . Please bear in mind this is only ahundred people , so even when the groups are divided into fifteen to twenty five , twenty five to thirtyfive , there's only maybe ten people {vocalsound} fifteen people in each group .Project Manager: Okay.Marketing: Okay . {vocalsound} So we got {disfmarker} some the bad stuff we got , remotes are oftenlost . I often lose my remote control , the back of the couch , some place , and even if it's not lostpermanently , it takes me a few minutes to find it . {vocalsound} Most buttons are not used any more ,like you said , teletext is outdated now . I remember trying to load a D_V_D_ player recently , and therewere so many buttons , it took me I don't know maybe ten minutes to to go through each button , 'causeyou have to press the shift button to access the yellow buttons , you know there's just a lot of stuff thatno one really uses . And if they do , not very often . Takes too long to master the remote control . I'veseen some remote controls that are big , they have a lot of buttons , you have to hold down more thanone key at one time to do something , they're just not great to use . We just got a lot of bad complaintsabout remote controls , people do not like remote controls . Some of the good stuff we got . Between theage of uh fifteen and twenty five , most people would be willing to pay extra for voice recognitionsoftware . Now don't get excited yet , I've got more to say on that . Most people'd be willing to pay forthat um most people want remote controls to be pretty , they want it to be fancy , th they they want it tobe different , everybody has a white remote control with black buttons , and a red button and a greenbutton , not everybody wants that . {vocalsound} {vocalsound} Finally , my opinion .Project Manager:Yep .Marketing: The voice recognition thing is cool . And uh voice recognition , the software , open sourcesoftware exist already . It's a bit sketchy at some times , uh , you're not gonna get good always accurate"} {"doc_id":"doc_56","qid":"","text":"Professor D: OK .PhD A: Mike . Mike - one ?PhD B: Ah .Professor D: We 're on ? Yes , please . I mean ,we 're testing noise robustness but let 's not get silly . OK , so , uh , you 've got some , uh , Xerox thingsto pass out ?PhD A: Yeah ,Professor D: That are {disfmarker}PhD A: um .Professor D: Yeah .PhD A: Yeah. Yeah , I 'm sorry for the table , but as it grows in size , uh , it .Professor D: Uh , so for th the lastcolumn we use our imagination . OK .PhD B: Ah , yeah .Professor D: Ah .PhD A: Uh , yeah .PhD B: Uh ,do you want @ @ .Professor D: This one 's nice , though . This has nice big font .PhD A: Yeah .Grad C:Let 's see . Yeah . Chop !Professor D: Yeah .PhD A: SoProfessor D: When you get older you have thesedifferent perspectives . I mean , lowering the word hour rate is fine , but having big font !PhD A: Nexttime we will put colors or something .Professor D: That 's what 's {disfmarker}PhD A: Uh .Professor D:Yeah . It 's mostly big font . OK .PhD A: OK , s so there is kind of summary of what has been done{disfmarker}Professor D: Uh {disfmarker} Go ahead .PhD A: It 's this . Summary of experiments since ,well , since last weekProfessor D: Oh . OK .PhD A: and also since the {disfmarker} we 've started to run{disfmarker} work on this . Um . {pause} So since last week we 've started to fill the column with um{vocalsound} uh features w with nets trained on PLP with on - line normalization but with delta also ,because the column was not completely {disfmarker}Professor D: Mm - hmm . Mm - hmm . PhD A: well ,it 's still not completely filled ,Professor D: PhD A: but {pause} we have more results to compare withnetwork using without PLP and {pause} finally , hhh , {comment} um {pause} ehhh {comment} PL - uhdelta seems very important . Uh {pause} I don't know . If you take um , let 's say , anyway Aurora - two- B , so , the next {disfmarker} t the second , uh , part of the table ,Professor D: Mm - hmm .PhD A: uh{pause} when we use the large training set using French , Spanish , and English , you have one hundredand six without delta and eighty - nine with the delta .Professor D: a And again all of these numbers arewith a hundred percent being , uh , the baseline performance ,PhD A: Yeah , on the baseline , yeah . So{disfmarker}Professor D: but with a mel cepstra system going straight into the HTK ?PhD A: Yeah . Yeah. So now we see that the gap between the different training set is much {pause} uh uh muchsmallerProfessor D: Yes .PhD A: um {disfmarker}Grad C: It 's out of the way .PhD A: But , actually , um ,for English training on TIMIT is still better than the other languages . And Mmm , {pause} Yeah . And falso for Italian , actually . If you take the second set of experiment for Italian , so , the mismatchedcondition ,Professor D: Mm - hmm .PhD A: um {pause} when we use the training on TIMIT so , it 's multi- English , we have a ninety - one number ,Professor D: Mm - hmm .PhD A: and training with otherlanguages is a little bit worse .Professor D: Um {disfmarker} Oh , I see . Down near the bottom of thissheet .PhD A: So ,Professor D: Uh , {comment} {pause} yes .PhD A: yeah .Professor D: OK .PhD A: And, yeah , and here the gap is still more important between using delta and not using delta . If y if I takethe training s the large training set , it 's {disfmarker} we have one hundred and seventy - two ,ProfessorD: Yes .PhD A: and one hundred and four when we use delta .Professor D: Yeah .PhD A: Uh . {pause}Even if the contexts used is quite the same ,Professor D: Mm - hmm .PhD A: because without delta weuse seventeenths {disfmarker} seventeen frames . Uh . Yeah , um , so the second point is that we haveno single cross - language experiments , uh , that we did not have last week . Uh , so this is training thenet on French only , or on English only , and testing on Italian .Professor D: Mm - hmm .PhD A: Andtraining the net on French only and Spanish only and testing on , uh TI - digits .Professor D: Mm - hmm.PhD A: And , fff {comment} um , yeah . What we see is that these nets are not as good , except for themulti - English , which is always one of the best . Yeah , then we started to work on a large dat databasecontaining , uh , sentences from the French , from the Spanish , from the TIMIT , from SPINE , uh from{comment} uh English digits , and from Italian digits . So this is the {disfmarker} another line{disfmarker} another set of lines in the table . Uh , @ @ with SPINEProfessor D: Ah , yes . Mm - hmm.PhD A: and {pause} uh , actually we did this before knowing the result of all the data , uh , so we haveto to redo the uh {disfmarker} the experiment training the net with , uh PLP , but with delta .ButProfessor D: Mm - hmm .PhD A: um this {disfmarker} this net performed quite well . Well , it 's{disfmarker} it 's better than the net using French , Spanish , and English only . Uh . So , uh , yeah . We"} {"doc_id":"doc_57","qid":"","text":"Professor B: I think for two years we were two months , uh , away from being done .PhD A: And whatwas that , Morgan ? What project ?Professor B: Uh , the , uh , TORRENT chip .PhD A: Oh .Professor B:Yeah . We were two {disfmarker} we were {disfmarker}PhD C: Yeah .Professor B: Uh , uh , we wentthrough it {disfmarker} Jim and I went through old emails at one point and {disfmarker} and for twoyears there was this thing saying , yeah , we 're {disfmarker} we 're two months away from being done .It was very {disfmarker} very believable schedules , too . I mean , we went through and {disfmarker}with the schedules {disfmarker} and we {disfmarker}PhD A: It was true for two years .Professor B: Yeah. Oh , yeah . It was very true .PhD A: So , should we just do the same kind of deal where we {pause} goaround and do , uh , status report {pause} kind of things ? OK . And I guess when Sunil gets here he cando his last or something . So .Professor B: Yeah . So we {pause} probably should wait for him to comebefore we do his .PhD C: Mm - hmm .PhD A: OK . That 's a good idea .Professor B: Yeah .Grad F: OK.Professor B: Yeah .PhD A: Any objection ? Do y OK , MProfessor B: All in favorPhD A: Do you want tostart , Morgan ? Do you have anything , or {disfmarker} ?Professor B: Uh , I don't do anything . I{disfmarker} No , I mean , I {disfmarker} I 'm involved in discussions with {disfmarker} with peopleabout what they 're doing , but I think they 're {disfmarker} since they 're here , they can talk about itthemselves .Grad F: OK . So should I go so that , uh ,PhD A: Yeah . Why don't you go ahead , Barry?Grad F: you 're gonna talk about Aurora stuff , per se ?PhD A: OK .Grad F: OK . Um . Well , this pastweek I 've just been , uh , getting down and dirty into writing my {disfmarker} my proposal . So , um{disfmarker} Mmm . I just finished a section on , uh {disfmarker} on talking about these intermediatecategories that I want to classify , um , as a {disfmarker} as a middle step . And , um , I hope to{disfmarker} hope to get this , um {disfmarker} a full rough draft done by , uh , Monday so I can give itto Morgan .PhD A: When is your , uh , meeting ?Grad F: Um , my meetingPhD A: Yeah .Grad F: with , uh{disfmarker} ? Oh , oh , you mean the {disfmarker} the quals .PhD A: The quals . Yeah .Grad F: Uh , thequals are happening in July twenty - fifth .PhD A: Oh . Soon .Grad F: Yeah .PhD A: Uh - huh .Grad F: D -Day .PhD A: Yeah .Grad F: Uh - huh .PhD A: So , is the idea you 're going to do this paper and then youpass it out to everybody ahead of time and {disfmarker} ?Grad F: Right , right . So , y you write up aproposal , and give it to people ahead of time , and you have a short presentation . And , um , and then ,um {disfmarker} then everybody asks you questions .PhD A: Hmm .Grad F: Yeah .PhD A: I remembernow .Grad F: Yep . So , um .PhD A: Have you d ? I was just gonna ask , do you want to say any{disfmarker} a little bit about it ,Grad F: Y sPhD A: or {disfmarker} ? Mmm .Grad F: Oh . Uh , a little bitabout {disfmarker} ?PhD A: Wh - what you 're {disfmarker} what you 're gonna {disfmarker} You said{disfmarker} you were talking about the , uh , particular features that you were looking at ,Grad F: Oh ,the {disfmarker} the {disfmarker}PhD A: or {disfmarker}Grad F: Right . Well , I was , um , I think oneof the perplexing problems is , um , for a while I was thinking that I had to come up with a complete setof intermediate features {disfmarker} in intermediate categories to {disfmarker} to classify right away .But what I 'm thinking now is , I would start with {disfmarker} with a reasonable set . Something{disfmarker} something like , um , um {disfmarker} like , uh , re regular phonetic features , just to{disfmarker} just to start off that way . And do some phone recognition . Um , build a system that , uh ,classifies these , um {disfmarker} these feat uh , these intermediate categories using , uh , multi - bandtechniques . Combine them and do phon phoneme recognition . Look at {disfmarker} then I would lookat the errors produced in the phoneme recognition and say , OK , well , I could probably reduce the errorsif I included this extra feature or this extra intermediate category . That would {disfmarker} that wouldreduce certain confusions over other confusions . And then {disfmarker} and then {vocalsound} reiterate. Um , build the intermediate classifiers . Uh , do phoneme recognition . Look at the errors . And thenpostulate new {disfmarker} or remove , um , intermediate categories . And then do it again .PhD A: Soyou 're gonna use TIMIT ?Grad F: Um , for that {disfmarker} for that part of the {disfmarker} theprocess , yeah , I would use TIMIT .PhD A: Mm - hmm .Grad F: And , um , then {disfmarker} after{disfmarker} after , uh , um , doing TIMIT . Right ?PhD A: Mm - hmm .Grad F: Um , that 's {disfmarker}"} {"doc_id":"doc_58","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: So is {disfmarker} Why not save that .Marketing: No , you'll ha have to open it up fromelsewhere .Project Manager: {gap} {disfmarker} Do you want to replace existing file , no . {vocalsound}I actually tried to transfer it to My Documents , but {disfmarker}Marketing: Yeah , you have to you haveto close that window . 'Cause that's the save one isn't it , so {disfmarker} And then find it .ProjectManager: {gap} spreadsheet .Marketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound} Yeah , but I've tauhMarketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager: right , I'll just re-do it . That's the easiest way .{vocalsound} {vocalsound} Right .User Interface: Well we've made our prototype anyway . We can havea good look at that . {vocalsound}Marketing: You pass it round to have a look .User Interface:{vocalsound} Mm-hmm . Y no , it's a slightly curved around the sides . {vocalsound}Marketing:{vocalsound} Mm very nice .User Interface: Um , it's almost curved like up to the main display as well .And the little line at the bottom indicates the bit {disfmarker} the panel that you pull down .Marketing:Mm-hmm .User Interface: And the extra function buttons are below that panel on the little line.Marketing: Mm-hmm .User Interface: And we've got the stick on the button with the company logo on.Marketing: Mm-hmm .Industrial Designer: We also have a apple slash cherry design at the top .UserInterface: {vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound} So it is , yeah .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}{gap} {vocalsound}Marketing: Cherry would be alright actually .User Interface: Yeah ,Marketing: Yeah.User Interface: it's a bit more fun , isn't it ? And it's kinda not really at a kind of {disfmarker} you thinkapple , you think computers , like Apple Mac .Industrial Designer: Yeah , yeah , we might get a{disfmarker}Marketing: Mm-hmm . Copyright , yeah . What's this this one ?User Interface: Yeah , andcherries are fun , summery .Marketing: What's that one there ?User Interface: Ah , that's the mute.Industrial Designer: For the M_ . {vocalsound}Marketing: Oh , okay . Right .User Interface: {gap}{vocalsound} It {disfmarker} it'd probably have to be labelled mute .Marketing: {vocalsound}IndustrialDesigner: They're thinking {disfmarker}User Interface: But um , we didn't have anything small enoughto write .Marketing: Uh-huh .Industrial Designer: For the first time , well it was hard to get the h um theactual labelling on the individual buttons .Marketing: Okay . Mm-hmm . {vocalsound}User Interface:Yeah . Uh , we just chose simple shapes for all them .Marketing: {vocalsound}User Interface: Um , theimportant ones are the volume ones . So we made them a bit bigger . The mute could possibly be a bitsmaller .Marketing: Mm-hmm .Industrial Designer: Hum , you separate off in colour the volume relatedbuttons from the channel related buttons , so you've got the volume in orange on design there ,UserInterface: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}Marketing: Yeah .Industrial Designer: and the the channel is inblue .User Interface: Mm-hmm .Project Manager: R right . Um ,User Interface: Yeah , and we chose a V_plus and V_ minus .Project Manager: all these things have cost implications . And so when I done mything on cost {vocalsound} a {disfmarker} I had assumed that the only uh button that would be adifferent colour would be the uh the red apple button . So {disfmarker} However , I've now {gap} .{vocalsound} But um , {vocalsound} yeah so uh but there would be a cost implication on that,Marketing: I'll see if I can find them .Project Manager: and uh {disfmarker} as I suppose that{vocalsound} so whether {vocalsound} wanted to put in all these colours , would be uh open to debate ,I suppose .Industrial Designer: Yeah , sisUser Interface: Well the colours wouldn't {disfmarker} likethat's {disfmarker} they wouldn't be too important ,Marketing: Have {disfmarker}User Interface: but wedidn't have any white Play-Doh . {vocalsound} So that's where the colour buttons came from .{vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound} An important consideration .Marketing:{vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound} Right , okay so um {disfmarker} {vocalsound} And thesecond one underneath would be the idea for the {disfmarker}Industrial Designer: Yes , we'll have theslide-away .Project Manager: Right , okay . So we've got um detail design meeting .Industrial Designer:Bottom .Project Manager: Right . So {disfmarker} So , we've got {vocalsound} prototype presentation ,which we've just done , evaluation criteria , um and finance , so I guess w we have to evaluate if thatmeets the various uh aspects that we're looking for uh from um our previous meeting .Marketing:Mm-hmm .User Interface: {vocalsound}Project Manager: So other than the fact that it doesn't have the"} {"doc_id":"doc_59","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: Mm-hmm .Industrial Designer: Mm yeah .Project Manager: Okay . {vocalsound} I gyeah . Time is it ?Marketing: {vocalsound} Fourteen twenty six .Project Manager: Okay . Lovely to seeyou all again . Um {vocalsound} it's our conceptual design meeting and it's starting at approximatelyfourteen twenty five and so we have forty minutes for this one again and so we'll go just after threeo'clock . Um okay {vocalsound} our agenda , we're gonna do an opening , I'm gonna review the minutesof the last meeting , then we'll have your three presentations um and then we'll have to make a decisionon the remote control concepts , and finally we'll close . SoIndustrial Designer: Okay .Project Manager:opening . Um these are our minutes from r the functional design . We decided our target group is thefocus on who can afford it , because we have international appeal and we said it's for all age groups ,different um functions of it . Our main objectives were simplicity and fashion . {vocalsound} And s um inspecific functions are something to keep the remote from getting lost , large buttons for the essentialfunctions , a possibility for extra functions , like a sliding a sliding piece {vocalsound} and a long-lifebattery or a charging station . Okay , now three presentations . I'd like to do it in this order , first do theconceptual specification of components , properties and materials {vocalsound} um and then theconceptual specification of user interface {vocalsound} and finally trend watching .Industrial Designer:That would be me .User Interface: Yep .Industrial Designer: Alright . Well .Project Manager: Mm . 'kay .Function F_ eight it . There we go .Industrial Designer: Alright . Um I'm very excited by this one actuallyguys I uh had a lot of fun doing it . Components design . This is where you look at what does it take tomake a remote control and what should we make our specific remote control out of . {vocalsound} Um .So , we need to examine each element separately , but we're designing a full thing , so you wanna keep itintegrated as a whole . The main elements of remote controls in general , and therefore ours as well , arethe case , the buttons , the circuit board with the chip and the battery . These are all things that we hadsort of addressed before , but I'm gonna take each one a little bit separately here as we figure out whatthey should be made of and what they should look like . The case , uh the options that I've gotten fromheadquarters about what we can do , um there's there's the shape of a case , we could do a flat sh a flatcase , a curved case or maybe even a double double-curved case . I haven't seen any pictures of whatthis exactly looks like yet , just keep that in mind , but these are the options that we have frommanufacturing and we can make our case out of plastic , the m the main base will be plastic , but wehave all these sort of fashion and technological elements we can add in , wood , latex , titanium , rubberor other coloured types of plastic . That would be our case . Um buttons , for buttons we have umpushbuttons , which is what Real Reaction uses the most often , but we also have scror scroll wheels,Project Manager: Mm .Industrial Designer: which can have integrated pushbuttons , or we could go allhigh-tech and have an L_ L_C_D_ screen . {vocalsound} Um circuit board and chip we can have a simpleone , a regular one or an advanced one , depending on what our other needs are . And then battery Ithink is where things get most exciting . We're talking about long-life batteries here . {vocalsound} Umwe can we can have your sort of basic double A_ batteries , but we also have these options of um{vocalsound} using a kinetic battery , like are used in high-tech watches , where you just have to move ita little bit to get it to power up . Um so simple movements like pushing buttons would recharge thebattery . Or a solar battery , although there are slight um {vocalsound} complications with solar batteriesas in we can't use a latex case if we have a solar battery .Project Manager: Hmm .Industrial Designer: Orum something they only described as the type of battery you find in torches from about fifty years ago ,flashlights . Not quite sure what that is , but that's the description that I received , so that's what I'mpassing on to you . {vocalsound} So those are our options . Um personal preferences that I was thinkingthrough {disfmarker} here's what we've been talking about all through , fashion and simplicity . So ifwe're going for fashion in our cases , I think that what we're gonna wanna look at is a curved or adouble-curved case , probably with a variety of design elements . Maybe titanium , maybe some wood .We're gonna have to investigate that better when I get specifics of the actual materials , but that's sort ofwhat I have in mind . And we wanna go for simplicity . Probably pushbuttons , but I'm sort of intrigued by"} {"doc_id":"doc_60","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: {vocalsound} Okay . Good morning everybody .Industrial Designer: Good morning.Project Manager: Oh , everybody is not ready .User Interface: Uh almost .Project Manager: Alright .UserInterface: Ready .Project Manager: Okay , let's go . So , we're here today to to have our first kick-offmeeting about uh this new project we're going to tak to talk about in a few minutes . Um so I will be uhSebastian the Project Manager . Um you are the {disfmarker}User Interface: I'm uh Michael . I'm theuser interface designer .Project Manager: Okay .Marketing: Hi I'm Guillermo {gap} . I'm the MarketingExpert .Industrial Designer: And I am Hemant , the industrial designer .Project Manager: Okay , verygood . Thanks for being here . Um so let's have a look to the the agenda . So , we are going to gothrough this agenda uh and mainly first to uh {vocalsound} to make {disfmarker} to to be used to thetools uh available in this nice and smart meeting room we have here . Um then we'll go to uh the plansfor project and have general discussions about it . So , the goal of this project is to uh developed a newremote control . Um it should be original , trendy , and also user friendly . As usual we will follow the theproject method um {vocalsound} that we are using in the {disfmarker} in our company . It is in threestep as you know . First the functional design . The second's a conceptual design , and then the detaileddesign . During each step uh of each design we wi you will work uh s separately , individually on uh yourspecific tasks and will m we will meet to um to discuss and take decisions about uh what you've you'veyou did and what uh we will do next . So first , we have to to train ourself with all the um the toolsavailables in the in this nice meeting room and uh particularly the the white board so uh we are going togo through the white board and take some um s some notes or do some drawings . So who want to start? Mister {gap} .User Interface: Ah well if no one else wants to , yeah . Okay so , want me to draw myfavourite animal .Project Manager: {vocalsound}User Interface: {vocalsound} Let's see . Well , I don'treally have a favourite animal , but umProject Manager: You have one in mind ?User Interface: uh I thinkI have one in mind , so uh {disfmarker} {vocalsound} I'm gonna {vocalsound} {gap} about the uhspider because you can actually draw it pretty well in the corner of a white board . The spider has a{disfmarker} spider lives in a web {vocalsound} and uh it has eight legs , and uh it can move all aboutthe web in two dimensions . Unless it's a three dimensional web which y they have sometimes . There aresome spiders that live in like {disfmarker} that have like uh kind of a a big ball of a of a web . And uh theother thing is some spiders can actually uh fly like uh they have uh they let out like uh a stream of likethe web building material but it's it acts like a parachute so they can actually kind of go and find new uh{disfmarker} build a new web somewhere else . So I think they did this in uh in Charlotte's Web thatmovie that little uh {disfmarker} well it's actually a book first but uh um at the end all the the spiderskinda flew away .Project Manager: Okay .User Interface: So , that's my animal .Project Manager: Ththank you . Very interesting . {vocalsound} Guillermo you want to ?Marketing: {vocalsound} 'kay{vocalsound} I dunno why , but {vocalsound} when I was a child I I wanted to be a a pantherProjectManager: {vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound} not a pink panther ,Industrial Designer: But don't youthink it's very difficult to draw a panther ?Marketing: or maybe yes .Project Manager: {vocalsound} Itwould be very funny for us .Marketing: Uh yeah yeah .Industrial Designer: So bad I don't like it .{vocalsound} {vocalsound}Project Manager: Oh .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Marketing: Okay it'sa friendly panther .User Interface: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}User Interface: Maybeit's happy 'cause it just ate someone .Marketing: Yeah maybe {vocalsound} .User Interface:{vocalsound}Marketing: Um . Actually , honestly I I I dunno what's what's his it's be behaviour , I dunnoif if it's the male who who hunts or it's the female uh , I I I have watched that lions di didn't hunt it's thethe female lions who who hunt , so {disfmarker} but {vocalsound} I like it because it's fast , and it'sblack as well , so it can he {disfmarker} it can hide itself very easily and it's it's {disfmarker} it looks likeum {vocalsound} powerful , strong , uh I dunno . I I watch a a film about a black panther when I was achild and {vocalsound} I was in that age when everything was shocking me a lot . {vocalsound}UserInterface: {vocalsound}Project Manager: Okay . Thank you .Marketing: Okay .Project Manager: Hemant.Industrial Designer: Um sure .Project Manager: {vocalsound}User Interface: So you don't like pink"} {"doc_id":"doc_61","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: Okay . Um welcome to our second meeting . This is the functional design meeting . AndI hope you all had a good individual working time . Okay , let's get started . Okay , here's the agenda forthe meeting . After the opening um I am going to fulfil the role of secretary , take the meeting minutes .And we're gonna have three presentations , one from each of you . Then we're gonna discuss some newproject requirements . Um gonna come to a decision on the functions of the remote control . And thenwe're gonna close up the meeting . And we're gonna do this all in about forty minutes . {gap} Okay .First I want to discuss the goals of this meeting . First we need to determine the user requirements andthe question that we can ask ourselves is what needs and desires are to be fulfilled by this remote control. And then we're going to determine the technical functions , what is the effect of the apparatus , whatactually is it supposed to do , what do people pick up the remote and use it for . And then lastly we'regoing to determine its working design , how exactly will it perform its functions , that's the wholetechnical side of {disfmarker} 'Kay I'll just give you a minute , 'cause it looks like you're making somenotes .User Interface: {vocalsound}Project Manager: 'Kay . Oh , well let's go ahead and ,User Interface:{vocalsound} {vocalsound}Project Manager: {gap} back , previous .User Interface: {vocalsound}ProjectManager: So what I wanna do right now is hear from all three of you , on your research that you just did. Who would like to start us off ? 'Kay .User Interface: I don't mind going first .Project Manager: Okay .Um do you have a PowerPoint or no ?User Interface: Yeah , it's in the {disfmarker} should be in the mProject .Project Manager: Okay .Marketing: Do you want us to do our PowerPoints now or{disfmarker}User Interface: You know you could you could do it yourself actually .Project Manager: Oh.Industrial Designer: Did you send it ?Project Manager: Save it in the project documents .User Interface:Put it in Project Documents ,Project Manager: Okay .User Interface: yeah .Project Manager: Mm-mm-mm. This one ?User Interface: Sure . {vocalsound}Project Manager: Okay .User Interface: Yeah .IndustrialDesigner: Okay . Great .User Interface: Okay . Um well , the function {vocalsound} of a remote control ,as what uh we've been informed , is basically to send messages to the television set , for example ,switch it on , switch it off , go to this channel , go to channel nine , turn the volume up , etcetera . Umsome of the considerations is just um for example the what it needs to include it's the numbers , youknow , zero to nine , so you can move to a channel , the power button on slash off , the channel going upand down , volume going up and down , and then mute , a mute function . And then functions forV_H_S_ , D_V_D_ , for example , play , rewind , fast-forward , stop , pause , enter . And enter would befor like , you know , the menus . {vocalsound} And then other menus for D_V_ as well as T_V_ , whetherthat means like um we can go and decide the brightness of the screen , things like that , all the morecomplicated functions of menus .Project Manager: {gap}User Interface: And we can decide if that's whatwe want , {gap} , um if we want to include that on the remote , if that's something that would stay onthe T_V_ itself , for example .Project Manager: Okay . Okay .User Interface: These are two examples .Um and you can see on the left , it's got a lot more buttons ,Project Manager: {vocalsound}UserInterface: and I don't know if you can read it , but it says , step , go to , freeze , um slow , repeat ,program , mute , and so those are some of the buttons and so it gives you an idea of s one example .And then on the right , it's a lot more simpler , it's got volume , it's got the play the like circle set , whichis play , rewind , but it's also what is {disfmarker} fast-forward is also like next on a menu . So you havefunctions that are d uh duplicating .Project Manager: Right .User Interface: And you have a mute buttonand then the numbers and the eject , and the power button . So that gives you two different kinds , amore complex and more simple version . Okay .Project Manager: Ready .User Interface: And then lastly ,it's just the questions that we want to consider like what functions do we want it to include , and howsimple , complex it should be ? And what functions it needs to complete . Uh , what are needed tocomplete insulation process , 'cause , you know , that's something that also has to be considered and it'sgonna be hopefully a one-time thing , when you set it up it should be set to go , but we have to includethe functions that can allow it to set up i in the first place .Project Manager: {gap}User Interface: Sothat's it .Project Manager: Alright . Very good presentation . Thank you . You speak with such authority"} {"doc_id":"doc_62","qid":"","text":"Lynne Neagle AM: Good morning, everyone, and welcome to today's meeting of the Children, YoungPeople and Education Committee. We've received no apologies for absence. Can I ask Members whetherthere are any declarations of interest, please?Darren Millar AM: Yes, I have a declaration of interest,Chair. I understand that my daughter features in one of the videos that is going to be used to contributeevidence to this inquiry. And, in addition, I'm a governor of one of the schools that features in thevideo.Lynne Neagle AM: Thank you, Darren. So, item 2, then, today is our first session on the provisionof textbooks and learning resources for pupils, which is a video of interviews with young people andteachers. The committee team has been out to take video evidence around Wales, and we're now goingto watch the results of that on the screen. Okay. Well, I'm sure that the committee would want me toplace on record our thanks to the young people and the teachers who took part in that very helpful andinformative video. We'll move on now then to our evidence session, and I'm very pleased to welcomeGareth Pierce, chief executive of the WJEC, Mike Ebbsworth, assistant director educational support,WJEC, Philip Blaker, chief executive of Qualifications Wales, and Emyr George, associate director generalqualifications at Qualifications Wales. So, thank you all of you for attending and thank you for the papersthat you provided in advance as well. If you're happy, we'll go straight into questions now, and if I canjust start by asking you to outline what you see as your role in ensuring that students and teachers inWales have the resources that they need to pass general qualifications and what you think the role ofcommercial publishers and Welsh Government is.Philip Blaker: Shall I start? So, Qualifications Wales isthe regulator of the awarding bodies, so we regulate awarding bodies. Our powers are structured aroundthe regulating of awarding bodies. We don't regulate commercial publishers nor the provision oftextbooks within that. In regulating the awarding body, our primary focus is also on the design of thequalifications and then the delivery of the assessment. So, it's much more around the assessmentside than teaching resources. That said, when we are going through the design of the qualifications, wego through an approval process, so we develop approval criteria and we ask WJEC to submit theirspecifications against those approval criteria and sample assessment materials as well. So, our focus isvery much on making sure that teachers are able, through the sample assessment materials and thespecifications, to have a good understanding of what is going to be expected of them in the examinationsand of their pupils in the examinations. So, that's setting out the knowledge, skills andunderstandings that will be assessed by WJEC when those exams are sat. We have in the past pulledtogether groups of people to look at issues like resources. So, during the last round of approvals, wepulled together interested parties in Welsh Government, regional consortia and WJEC to look at resourcesthat would be available with a view to facilitating the discussion about who would be best placed to fill thegaps where there may be perceived to be gaps in resources. Our other primary role is in maintainingstandards. So, as the regulator of qualifications, what we want to do is we want to make that the awardsof qualifications—so, the grades that people get—are fair. One of the things we do is set out the way inwhich the awarding bodies will set grades—so, the awarding process, the methods that will be used—andthen we monitor WJEC's award of grades against those processes. During a period of change, weprescribe the use of comparable outcomes as the primary approach, largely because comparableoutcomes are designed for circumstances like this, where there's a change in a specification particularly,because there are any number of reasons, including resources, why performance may be different fromone year to the next, but comparable outcomes is there to ensure that, all things being equal, if thecohorts have the same ability, the same grade should be awarded from one year to the next. We dorecognise that there have been delays in textbooks. Much of that has been related to the timelines thatwe've all had to deliver new specifications against, which have been far from ideal for everybodyinvolved. We think that particularly our role moving forward will be looking at the timelines forreforms that will be necessary for the new curriculum to make sure that this situation isn't repeated andthat there is sufficient time in future reforms to allow for greater system readiness. In terms of the rolesof others, Welsh Government have a role at the moment in terms of grant funding of translation of"} {"doc_id":"doc_63","qid":"","text":"User Interface: Hi .Industrial Designer: Hi .Project Manager: Hello .Marketing: {vocalsound}UserInterface: Oh .Project Manager: Good morning .User Interface: Good morning .Industrial Designer:Morning .Marketing: Good morning .Project Manager: Uh before I start with the with the meeting I have afew things to tell you about the the setting we're in , uh because we're uh being watched by uh BigBrother . So um {disfmarker}Marketing: By Big Brother ?Project Manager: Yeah . {vocalsound} Yeah.Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Marketing: Okay .Project Manager: This uh {disfmarker} These arecameras , so are these . This thing uh that looks like a pie ,Marketing: Mm-hmm .Project Manager: areactually all microphones .Marketing: Yeah . Okay .Project Manager: So you must be careful with uh withuh all this . And uh as I can see you uh you have placed your laptops uh exactly on the place where itmust be . And that has to do with the camera settings , so we don't have our uh laptops in front of thecameras .Marketing: Of our faces .Project Manager: And {disfmarker} Indeed . So they can see our faces.Marketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound} Okay .Marketing: {vocalsound}ProjectManager: Welcome at the kick-off meeting . My name is uh Danny Wolfs . {vocalsound} Uh this is theagenda for today . Uh first a little opening . Uh I will introduce myself , uh and uh I think it's very uh goodto introduce uh yourself . Uh then uh a little bit of acquaintance , acquaintance to uh to to ourselves . Souh we get to know each other . Uh that will be done uh with a tool training from the he these two uhsmart boards . Then the project plan . What we're going to do , and how we're going to do it . Uh anddiscussion about that and a little closing at the end . {vocalsound} Okay uh , my name is uh Danny Wolfs. I'm the Project Manager . What's your name ?User Interface: I'm Juergen Toffs . I'm the User InterfaceDesigner .Project Manager: User interface , okay .Industrial Designer: Hi , my name's uh {gap} . I'm theIndustrial Designer .Project Manager: Industrial , yes .Marketing: I'm uh Tim {gap} . Um my function isthe Marketing Expert .Project Manager: Okay , thank you . First a little about the project aim . Uh the thethe aim is to make a new remote control . Uh maybe you have read uh read the website . It's a very uh ,yeah , very uh ambitious uh company . They uh they wanna do something else . I w Uh there must be anew remote control . Uh first of all uh it must be original , uh and trendy . That's two things really uhclose to each other . But at the same time uh user-friendly . And they have uh {disfmarker} Yeah , that'suh very important uh for them . Uh there are three stages . There is a functional design . So uh what arewe going uh to uh to do ? What are we going to uh uh make f uh kind of functions in the remote ? Andwhy are we going to do it ? Then the conceptual design . How are going to do it ? {vocalsound} Andthat's uh really global . Uh because at the detailed design , how , part two , uh we go uh to dig in uhreally about how the the te the technical of {disfmarker} If it's uh it's possible technical-wise .Marketing:{vocalsound}Project Manager: Uh each stage is uh {vocalsound} uh is broken up in two uh two stages ,individual work and a meeting . So it's uh it's very straightforward . {vocalsound} Okay , the tool training. We have two smart boards . {vocalsound} This one is for the presentations , the PowerPointpresentations or the Word presentation of whatever you uh you had . Uh and this is uh only for uhdrawing . So uh we uh must let it uh stand on this uh this programme . {vocalsound} This is called asmart boardMarketing: {vocalsound} Speaks for itself .Project Manager: thing uh {disfmarker} Yeah , itspeaks for itself . Um and as you uh may have heard , the documents in the shared folder uh can be uhshowed on this screen . Not in y the the My Documents . So if you wanna show something , put it in theshared folder . {vocalsound} Uh {disfmarker} This uh is {gap} very straightforward , with the save , theprint , the undo , the blank , the select , the pen . Well , I don't uh gonna explain it all ,Marketing:{vocalsound}Project Manager: because I think you know uh how it works . Um we must not forget uheverything we draw on here , uh all must be saved . We we may not delete anything . So uh if you haveuh drawn something , save it . Never delete it . That's a very important uh thing .Marketing:{vocalsound}Project Manager: Okay . Uh little uh little {vocalsound} kinda exercise to uh know eachother .User Interface: {vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound} At uh thewhite board on the left . Every uh every one of us uh must draw our favourite animal ,IndustrialDesigner: {vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound} and uh tell uh tell us why we uh had uh chosen"} {"doc_id":"doc_64","qid":"","text":"Marketing: {gap}Project Manager: {gap} {vocalsound}Marketing: I dunno . {vocalsound} Throwingaway my toothpick .User Interface: Hi there .Project Manager: Yo . Ow .Industrial Designer:{vocalsound}Project Manager: {gap} {vocalsound}Marketing: 'Kay .Project Manager: Uh{disfmarker}Marketing: Nice user interface .Project Manager: Yeah . What the {disfmarker} Uh{disfmarker}Marketing: {gap}Project Manager: Yeah well , ja well let's just start .Marketing: 'Kay.Project Manager: {vocalsound} {vocalsound} I've uh made a presentation uh but uh I'll open it on theSmartboard , so we can all see it .Marketing: Right let's see it .Project Manager: So it's in the projectdocuments because that's what we can find here . Well {gap} . {vocalsound}Industrial Designer:{vocalsound}Project Manager: Very nice . Well this is called the the the kick-off meeting . So uh{vocalsound} I'm the Project Manager , so I had to fill it in ,Marketing: 'Kay .Project Manager: and uhhmm . {vocalsound} {vocalsound} Oh sorry . {vocalsound} And {gap} an uh a nice agenda .{vocalsound} Uh we'll do the opening and then uh we'll meet each other , what uh we already do , so ,that's not uh very much trouble . I'll I'll show you the the tools we have here , so that we can all usethem . Then uh we'll look at the project plan from uh Real Reaction .Marketing: {vocalsound}ProjectManager: We'll discuss about our first ideas about the project , and then uh we'll close the meeting , andthen we can uh individually uh do our things and then uh we'll get back here . So {vocalsound} this theopening we'll uh {disfmarker} We have to uh design a new television remote control . You have heardthat uh already I think , so .Marketing: Mm-hmm .Project Manager: Um we want it to be original , so anice uh a nice new design . Uh trendy , it's {vocalsound} also for young people , and we have to just uhmake it uh modern . And uh friendly , so size does matter . And uh {disfmarker} Well it has to be a havethe the right uh the right buttons on the right place , that kin those kind of things .Industrial Designer:Mm-hmm .Project Manager: Other uh {disfmarker} There happen to be uh three stages . {gap}functional , conceptual , and d detailed design . Um so every time we we'll do some individual work , getmeeting , talk about it , uh and then go into the next phase . That's just it . {vocalsound} Um{disfmarker} We have uh these two Smartboards . Um well as I just showed , there's a projectmanagement folder , a project document folder on the desktop . It just works exactly the same as acomputer . You just uh click on the on the folder and you open the everything you you put in it with yourlaptop . So you can uh make uh {vocalsound} Words Excel , everything . Um and the w the r uh the restuh also works the same so uh when you open a notepad you uh you just get your uh things , you can uhdraw . This is a uh well a drawing board . {gap} you have a {disfmarker} these different uh functions onthe board . You can see them there . So you have a a nice pen , and it's works just like a bal ball pen .{vocalsound} This is just a {gap} . I want to uh {disfmarker} Oh yeah . Of course w {vocalsound}doesn't work any more . {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}User Interface:{vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Maybe you should try to write on the on the big white uh{disfmarker}Project Manager: Yes I will {disfmarker}Industrial Designer: Does it ? Yeah . It works.Project Manager: eraser {gap} so .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} {vocalsound} Wonderful .ProjectManager: It's fantas fantastic . We can uh uh well you can save a file . So if uh we draw we have to saveeverything . Don't throw anything away .Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .Project Manager: Uh just we canstart a new one , and we just go on , and don't throw anything away .Marketing: {vocalsound}ProjectManager: Just uh let them all uh stand here . We can delete , but we don't do that . Um you can hereselect a pen , you can draw anything you want . It's a bit uh childish you have to write . It's not as fast asyou w you know it , but it does work sometimes .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} {gap} .UserInterface: {vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound} Well it's just like anormal uh paint .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Project Manager: So it's gone .Industrial Designer:{vocalsound} Alright , yep .Project Manager: Well we are designers , so we have to have a a more uh aSmartboard . So that's fantastic . Um well this uh speaks for itself . We going to try it . So um we all uhare going to uh draw a nice animal on this board ,User Interface: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer:{vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}Project Manager: not my idea ."} {"doc_id":"doc_65","qid":"","text":"Lynne Neagle AM: Good morning, everyone. Welcome to the Children, Young People and EducationCommittee. We've received no apologies for absence this morning. Can I ask if there are any declarationsof interest from Members, please? No. Okay. Thank you. Item 3 this morning then is a scrutiny sessionon early childhood education and care, and I'm very pleased to welcome Julie Morgan AM, DeputyMinister for Health and Social Services; Jo-anne Daniels, director of communities and tackling poverty atWelsh Government; and Nicola Edwards, deputy director of the childcare, play and early years division inWelsh Government. Thank you all for your attendance. We’re very much looking forward to the session.If you're happy, we'll go straight into questions, and the first ones are from Hefin David.Hefin David AM:Good morning, Deputy Minister. What are your primary objectives? Is it supporting the development ofchildren or getting parents into work?Julie Morgan AM: Well, I think you'll be aware from the range ofprogrammes that we've got that we do feel it’s important to support both children and parents. There'sobviously lots of evidence to show how important the early years are for children, how important they arefor their development, and so, that is one of our primary objectives. But we also know how important it isfor parents to have stable jobs, reasonably paid, so that can also help with the development of thechildren. So, we really see it that our plans are for both parents and children, and we believe that ahigh-quality, early-childhood education and care system can provide that. And, of course, in terms ofwhen we talk about jobs as well, I think it’s really important to remember that the childcare system is abig employer as well and a very important employer. So that, actually, itself provides jobs.Hefin DavidAM: So, the evidence we've seen suggests that, historically, Governments in the UK and devolved havefocused on primarily getting parents into work. So, are you suggesting then that your focus is to changethat and move towards early child development?Julie Morgan AM: No, what I'm saying is that we want togive parents the opportunity to work. We don't want childcare to be a barrier to parents working becausewe think that working is one the best routes out of poverty, but we do also want to make sure thatchildren have the greatest experience that they can have in the early years. So, we see it as one.HefinDavid AM: Okay. And that's quite a policy challenge to deliver both at the same time.Julie Morgan AM:The situation as it is is complex, and I think it needs simplifying. It is a challenge, but it’s probably one ofthe most important challenges we've got in Government, because what we offer to families with youngchildren is one of the most important things we do.Hefin David AM: And in your evidence to thecommittee, you said that the Welsh Government’s approach 'will build on a wide variety of programmesthat are continually developing in order to support parents, families and children during the early years.'And you've just said you want to simplify that. How do you simplify that, particularly with regard to theprovision of funding and the way these things connect from the birth of a child into school? How willsimplification look, and what will happen?Julie Morgan AM: Well, we're not at the stage of being able tosay what it will look like at the moment, but we're looking at ways of simplifying, because I think it’sabsolutely right, it is a very complex system, because it’s grown up from all different routes. But we arehaving lots of pilot projects that are looking at ways of simplifying the system. We have got pathwayprojects in, I think it’s eight local authorities, who are looking at ways of joining up the whole system. So,we are looking at that, and I absolutely except that it is very complex and we want to find ways ofmaking it simpler and easier to understand. So, we are working with local authorities and health boardsto see how we can actually work together and simplify things.Hefin David AM: And it's good to hear thatthat's your objective. Can I just come back to the first thing you said: 'We can't say yet what we're goingto do'?Julie Morgan AM: No.Hefin David AM: So, when will we have a policy plan and something that wecan interrogate in more detail?Julie Morgan AM: Well, I think we are near getting to an announcementwhere we will be able to say what direction we're going in, and because we have had—. Some of thiswork has been going on for a year or so, and we're getting the results of those pathfinder projects comingin. So, when we do have all those results, we will be able to say the direction that we want to go in, and Ihope we'll be able to do that very soon.Hefin David AM: Before Christmas?Julie Morgan AM: I hopeso.Hefin David AM: Okay. And finally from me—Julie Morgan AM: I'm sorry I can't say too much about"} {"doc_id":"doc_66","qid":"","text":"PhD A: Eh , we should be going .Professor B: So ne next week we 'll have , uh , both Birger {pause} and, uh , Mike {disfmarker} Michael {disfmarker} Michael Kleinschmidt and Birger Kollmeier will join us .PhDD: Uh - huh .Professor B: Um , and you 're {disfmarker} {vocalsound} you 're probably gonna go up in acouple {disfmarker} three weeks or so ? When d when are you thinking of going up to , uh , OGI ?PhD D:Yeah , like , uh , not next week but maybe the week after .Professor B: OK . Good . So at least we 'll haveone meeting with {vocalsound} yo with you still around , and {disfmarker} and {disfmarker}PhD D: Uh -huh .Professor B: That 's good .PhD D: Um , Yeah . Well , {vocalsound} maybe we can start with this .Mmm .Professor B: All today , huh ?PhD D: Yeah .Professor B: Oh .PhD D: Um . Yeah . So there was thisconference call this morning , um , and the only topic on the agenda was just to discuss a and to come at{disfmarker} uh , to get a decision about this latency problem .Professor B: No , this {disfmarker} I 'msorry , this is a conference call between different Aurora people or just {disfmarker} ?PhD D: Uh , yeah .It 's the conference call between the Aurora , {vocalsound} uh , group .Professor B: It 's the mainconference call . OK .PhD D: Uh , yeah . There were like two hours of {pause} discussions , and thensuddenly , {vocalsound} uh , people were tired , I guess , and they decided on {nonvocalsound} anumber , two hundred and twenty , um , included e including everything . Uh , it means that it 's likeeighty milliseconds {pause} less than before .Professor B: And what are we sitting at currently ?PhD D:Um .Professor B: Yeah .PhD D: So , currently d uh , we have system that has two hundred and thirty . So, that 's fine .Professor B: Two thirty .PhD D: Yeah . So that 's the system that 's described on the secondpoint of {pause} this {vocalsound} document .Professor B: So it 's {disfmarker} we have to reduce it byten milliseconds somehow .PhD D: Yeah . But that 's {disfmarker} Yeah . That 's not a problem , I{disfmarker} I guess .Professor B: OK . W It 's {disfmarker} it 's p d primary {disfmarker} primarilydetermined by the VAD at this point ,PhD D: Um .Professor B: right ?PhD D: Yeah .Professor B: S so wecan make the VAD a little shorter .PhD D: Yeah . At this point , yeah .Professor B: That 's{disfmarker}PhD D: Yeah , uh - huh .Professor B: Yeah . We probably should do that pretty soon so thatwe don't get used to it being a certain way .PhD D: Uh - huh .Professor B: Yeah .PhD D: Um .Professor B:Was Hari on the {disfmarker} on the phone ?PhD D: Yeah , sure .Professor B: OK .PhD D: Well , it wasmainly a discussion {vocalsound} between Hari and {vocalsound} David ,Professor B: Hmm .PhD D: whowas like {disfmarker}Professor B: Yeah .PhD D: Uh ,Professor B: OK .PhD D: mmm {disfmarker} Uh ,yeah . So , the second thing is the system that we have currently . Oh , yes . We have , like , a systemthat gives sixty - two percent improvement , but {vocalsound} if you want to stick to the {disfmarker}{vocalsound} this latency {disfmarker} Well , it has a latency of two thirty , but {vocalsound} if youwant also to stick to the number {vocalsound} of features that {disfmarker} limit it to sixty ,{vocalsound} then we go a little bit down but it 's still sixty - one percent . Uh , and if we drop thetandem network , then we have fifty - seven percent .Professor B: Uh , but th the two th two thirtyincludes the tandem network ?PhD D: Yeah .Professor B: OK . And i is the tandem network , uh , smallenough that it will fit on the terminal size in terms of {disfmarker} ?PhD D: Uh , no , I don't think so.Professor B: No .PhD D: No .Professor B: OK .PhD D: It 's still {disfmarker} in terms of computation , ifwe use , like , their way of computing the {disfmarker} the maps {disfmarker} the {disfmarker} theMIPs , {vocalsound} I think it fits ,Professor B: Mm - hmm . Mm - hmm .PhD D: but it 's , uh , m mainly aproblem of memory .Professor B: Right .PhD D: Um , and I don't know how much {pause} this can bediscussed or not , because it 's {disfmarker} it could be in ROM , so it 's maybe not that expensive . But{disfmarker}Professor B: Ho - how much memory d ? H how many {disfmarker} ?PhD D: I d I d uh , I{disfmarker} I don't kn remember exactly , but {disfmarker} {vocalsound} Uh . Yeah , I c I{disfmarker} I have to check that .Professor B: Yeah . I 'd like to {pause} see that , cuz maybe I couldthink a little bit about it , cuz we {vocalsound} maybe we could make it a little smaller or {disfmarker} Imean , it 'd be {disfmarker} it 'd be neat if we could fit it all .PhD D: Uh - huh .Professor B: Uh , I 'd liketo see how far off we are .PhD D: Mm - hmm .Professor B: But I guess it 's still within their rules to have{disfmarker} have it on the , uh , t uh , server side . Right ?PhD D: Yeah . Yeah .Professor B: OK .PhD D:"} {"doc_id":"doc_67","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: Okay . Everybody found his place again ? Yeah ?Marketing: Yes .Project Manager:That's nice . Okay so this is our second meeting . And uh still failing ? {vocalsound}Marketing: Yeah.Project Manager: Uh now we're going um into the functional design . Um important thing of this phase isthat we're going to uh try to get an agreement about the user requirements , technical function design ,and the working design . So that we can move onto the second uh phase . But first this phase . Um firstan announcement . There's a little adaptation in the air conditioning system . So {disfmarker}Marketing:{vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound} There's our {vocalsound} ghost mouse again . That thatmeans that you can have a little trouble with , little trouble with the air conditioning , that's because ofthis uh {disfmarker}User Interface: Okay .Project Manager: It's in wing C_ and E_ .Marketing: Okay.Project Manager: So it should be over in a in a while , couple of days . But it's going to be cold anyway ,so {vocalsound} I don't think you're gonna need it .User Interface: {vocalsound}Marketing: No .ProjectManager: Then our agenda . Now first the opening . Uh this time I will take the minutes . Uh you're goingto have a presentation . All of you . Um and we've got forty minutes for the whole uh prese for the wholeuh presentations . So uh I suggest we take about seven minutes per presentation , and then we can havea little discussion about the new project requirements uh which have been sent to me . And then thedecision on the control functions uh which we wanna include and those which we don't wanna include . Sowe've got forty minutes for all of it . So I suggest um let's start with the first presentation .Marketing: Yes.Project Manager: Um who wants to be first ?Marketing: Think I'll go first .Project Manager: Okay . So{disfmarker}Marketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager: Just maybe it's easier if you um {disfmarker}Yeah I think you will tell {gap} your presentation as well . Just which function you have and what you'regonna talk about . {vocalsound}Marketing: 'Kay . My name is Freek Van Ponnen . I'm the Market Expert .But you already knew that . Um I've done some research . We have we uh have been doing research in ausability lab where we observed um users operating remote controls . Uh we let them fill out aquestionnaire . We had one hundred of these uh test subjects . Uh in addition we did some marketresearch . Uh see what the market consists of . What ages are involved . Well these are three quiteastonishing results , I thought . Um remotes are being considered ugly . F uh seventy five percent of theum people questioned uh indicated that they thought their remote were was ugly . Um and an additionaleighty percent indicated that they would spend more money on a fancy-looking remote control . So{disfmarker} Um in addition remotes were not very functional . Fifty percent of the people indicated theyonly loo used about ten percent of the buttons on a remote control . And fifty percent of the peopleindicated that their remote tended to get lost in their room . SoUser Interface: Mm .Marketing: somethings . Then we did some research to the most relevant functions . Channel selection and volumeselection um both got a ten on a scale of one to ten for relevancy . The power button got a nine . Andteletext got a six and a half . So these are the most most uh important functions on a remote control .Then there are some one-time use function . That's what I like to call them . That uh audio settings ,video settings , and channel settings buttons . Which are not really used very frequently , but are stillconsidered to be of some importance . Um channel selection was also indicated to be used veryfrequently . One hundred and sixty eight times per hour . Then these are the {disfmarker} This is themarket . Um sixty percent of the market consists of users between the ages sixteen and forty f six . Um{disfmarker} Main characteristic of this group is that they're very critical on the remote control . Um theylike to use new f new functions . But they also are very critical . They won't spend their money very easily. So {disfmarker} Um the users of forty six to sixty five years cons The make up forty percent of themarket . They are not really very interested in features . But they do tend to spend their money a loteasier . What I think this indicates for our um design . I think we should make a remote for the future .And this means we would um have to focus on the age ages sixteen to forty five . Uh this also makes upmost the biggest part of the market , so that will also be where our main profit would be gettable . Umthis would mean we would have to make a fancy design . Um {disfmarker} The results also indicated thatum about one quarter of the people questioned thought that the remote control caused R_S_ R_S_I_ ."} {"doc_id":"doc_68","qid":"","text":"Marketing: Oh right okay . {vocalsound} I cover myself up . {vocalsound}Project Manager: I feel likeMadonna with one of these on . I said I feel like Madonna with one of these on . {vocalsound}IndustrialDesigner: {vocalsound}Marketing: {gap} .Project Manager: {vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound} I'vealways wanted one of these , I really have . {vocalsound} Where do you buy 'em from ? {vocalsound}They're {gap} .Project Manager: {vocalsound}User Interface: {vocalsound}Marketing:{vocalsound}Project Manager: Right . Hello everybody .User Interface: Hello .Project Manager: Backagain for another wonderful meeting .Industrial Designer: {gap} .Marketing: {vocalsound}ProjectManager: Is uh everyone ready ?User Interface: Yeah .Industrial Designer: Almost .{vocalsound}Marketing: Yeah .Project Manager: Okay , we c we can hold on for a minute .Marketing:{vocalsound} Oh my gosh . {vocalsound} {gap} {vocalsound}Project Manager: I figured with the spamthing , if you can't beat it , join in . {vocalsound}User Interface: {vocalsound}Marketing:{vocalsound}User Interface: That's the kind of spam that everybody likes to receive .Marketing:{vocalsound} {vocalsound} {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Mm 'kay .Project Manager: Are you ready? Okay , right , well , I take it that you are all ready now .Marketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager: Umalright first off we'll just uh recap from our last meeting . Um {vocalsound} which was we got togetherjust to basically decide on {disfmarker} well to talk about what it is that we were actually uh supposed tobe doing ,Marketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager: and who we all are and stuff like that , mm get bitmore of an idea together of what's going on . {vocalsound} Um what we are gonna talk about in thismeeting is um now that we know what it is that we are doing , now we know that it's a T_V_ remote andstuff and you guys have just been off doing some some uh R_ and D_ for that , that's research anddevelopment for those that haven't heard that before ,User Interface: {vocalsound}Marketing: Mm-hmm.Project Manager: see I'm learning all sorts of new technologi terms in technology today . Um yeah ,we're gonna hear your uh th three little presentations ,Marketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager: whetherthey be on computer or on the whiteboard or whatever you want .User Interface: Hmm . {vocalsound}Do you have any preference uh of order ?Project Manager: Um I'd like to um hearMarketing:{vocalsound}Project Manager: o I'd like to hear who's g who's on the um from from uh Catherine actuallyfirst . I want {disfmarker} what I'd like to hear about is uh if we've finally decided on um what sort ofenergy we're gonna be using andIndustrial Designer: {vocalsound}Marketing: Batteries .User Interface: Ithink she is still finishing her {gap} . {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: No no no no , it's fine I'm justpreparing .Project Manager: It's just that {disfmarker} yeah , let's let's hear from you first .IndustrialDesigner: Okay .User Interface: Hmm .Industrial Designer: Where is that thing ?User Interface: Okay ,it's uh {vocalsound} {disfmarker}Marketing: It's here .Industrial Designer: Oh sorry , couldn't see.Marketing: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Would that work ?Project Manager: Get yourself in position. {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Okay , so that's me again .Marketing: Ah .IndustrialDesigner: {vocalsound} Um so um for the energy sources we can have a basic battery , a hand dynamowhich is {disfmarker} which was used uh in the fifties for torches , if you remember that kind of{disfmarker} which wouldn't be v wouldn't be v vProject Manager: I don't think any of us remember thefifties .User Interface: Is it like a crank thing or something {gap} .Industrial Designer: yeah , yeah . Itwouldn't be very fancy .Marketing: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: You can have a kinetic provision ofenergy , which is used on some watches these days . So if you have just a bit of gentle movement that{disfmarker} it will give it the energy to work .Marketing: Mm .Industrial Designer: Or you can use solarcells , but I'm not sure about that indoors , really , but {disfmarker}User Interface: Well , there'ssometimes combinations , I mean , like calculators do combinations of battery with {disfmarker} but alsousing some solar power .Industrial Designer: Yeah .Project Manager: Do {gap} sol solar panel things , dothey have to work from the sun or can they work from a light bulb ?Marketing: Mm .Project Manager:Does anybody know ?Industrial Designer: I dunno actually .User Interface: Uh I think , it has to be on theon the solar energy , but I don't know .Industrial Designer: I dunno . Um . Think the the uh what wouldcost the less would be the basic battery , really .Project Manager: Okay .Industrial Designer: And uh if we"} {"doc_id":"doc_69","qid":"","text":"Professor C: Starts {disfmarker} No . No .PhD D: No . That 's a different thing .Professor C: There 'sanother {disfmarker} I don't know . It starts with a P or something . I forget the word for it , but it 's{disfmarker} it 's umPhD D: Oh .Professor C: Typically when you {disfmarker} you 're ab r startingaround forty for most people , it starts to harden and then it 's just harder for the lens to shift thingsPhDD: Oh .Professor C: and th the {disfmarker} the symptom is typically that you {disfmarker}{vocalsound} you have to hold stuff uh uh further away to {disfmarker} to see it .PhD E: Uh - huh . Yeah.Professor C: In fact , uh m my brother 's a {pause} gerontological psychologist and he {disfmarker} heuh {vocalsound} came up with an {disfmarker} an uh {disfmarker} a uh body age test which uh getsdown to sort of only three measurements that are good enough st statistical predictors of all the rest of it. And one of them is {disfmarker} is the distance {vocalsound} that you have to hold it at .PhD D: Givesomeone a piece of paper and then they {disfmarker} Oh .PhD E: Yeah .Professor C: Yeah .Grad A: We're {disfmarker} we 're live by the way , so we 've got a good intro hereProfessor C: Oh . Yeah . Abouthow old I am .Grad A: Yep .Professor C: OK .Grad A: We can edit that out if you want .PhD D: Oh , that 'soptional .Professor C: No , that 's OK .Grad A: OK . So . This time the form discussion should be veryshort ,PhD D: You know .PhD E: Mm - hmm .Grad A: right ?Professor C: It also should be {pause} later.Grad A: OK .Professor C: Because Jane uh is not here yet .Grad A: Good point .Professor C: And uh she'll be most interested in that . Uh , she 's probably least involved in the signal - processing stuff so maybewe can just {disfmarker} just uh , I don't think we should go though an elaborate thing , but um uh Joseand I were just talking about {vocalsound} the uh {nonvocalsound} uh , speech e energy thing ,PhD E:The @ @ {disfmarker}Professor C: and I uh {disfmarker}PhD E: Yeah .Professor C: We didn't talk aboutthe derivatives . But I think , you know , the {disfmarker} the {disfmarker} i if I can {disfmarker} if youdon't mind my {disfmarker} my speaking for you for a bit , um {vocalsound} Uh . Right now , that he 'snot really showing any kind of uh distinction , but uh {disfmarker} but we discussed a couple of thepossible things that uh he can look at . Um . And uh one is that uh this is all in log energy and log energyis basically compressing the distances {vocalsound} uh {pause} between things . Um {pause} Another isthat he needs to play with the {disfmarker} the different uh {pause} uh temporal sizes . He was{disfmarker} he {disfmarker} he was taking everything over two hundred milliseconds uh , and uh he 'sgoing to vary that number and also look at moving windows , as we discussed before . Um And uh{disfmarker} and the other thing is that the {disfmarker} yeah doing the {disfmarker} {vocalsound}subtracting off the mean and the variance in the {disfmarker} {pause} uh and dividing it by the {pause}standard deviation in the log domain , {vocalsound} may not be {pause} the right thing to do .Grad A: HiJane !PhD E: Hi .Grad A: We just started .PhD E: Yeah .Grad A: Could you take that mike there ?PhD D:Are these the long term means ? Like , over the whole {disfmarker} I mean , the means of {pause} what?Grad A: Thanks .Professor C: Uh B Between {disfmarker} between {disfmarker}PhD D: All the frames inthe conversation ?Professor C: No .PhD D: Or of things that {disfmarker}Professor C: Between{disfmarker} Neither . It 's uh between the pauses {pause} uh for some segment .PhD E: No .PhD D: Oh.Professor C: And so i i his {disfmarker} his {disfmarker} He 's making the constraint it has to be at leasttwo hundred milliseconds .PhD D: Oh .Professor C: And so you take that . And then he 's {disfmarker} he's uh measuring at the frame level {disfmarker} still at the frame level , of what {disfmarker}PhD D:Right .Professor C: and then {disfmarker} and then just uh normalizing with that larger amount . um and{disfmarker} But one thing he was pointing out is when he {disfmarker} he looked at a bunch ofexamples in log domain , it is actually pretty hard to see {vocalsound} the change . And you can sort of{pause} see that , because of j of just putting it on the board that {vocalsound} if you sort of have log -X plus log - X , that 's the log of X plus the log of twoPhD E: Yep .PhD D: Yeah , maybe it 's not logdistributed .PhD E: Mmm . Yeah .Professor C: and it 's just , {pause} you know , it {disfmarker} itdiminishes the {pause} effect of having two of them .PhD E: Professor C: Um .PhD D: But you could dolike a C D F there instead ? I mean , we don't know that the distribution here is normally .Professor C:Yes , right . So {disfmarker} So what I was suggesting to him is that {disfmarker}PhD D: So just some"} {"doc_id":"doc_70","qid":"","text":"Marketing: It's Play-Doh .Project Manager: Play-Doh's edible . Did you know that ? It's definitely{disfmarker}Marketing: Because kids {disfmarker} yeah .Industrial Designer: I used to eat it .UserInterface: I've , I've definitely eaten it before . I didn't know was edible . {vocalsound} {gap} .ProjectManager: Yeah . It's it's chew proof . {vocalsound}Marketing: But um , it's it's made edible 'cause , yeah. It's made edible 'cause kids eat it ,Project Manager: Yeah .Marketing: and if it's wasn't edible then{disfmarker} Well , normal babies . {vocalsound}User Interface: Actually that makes sense , because Iremember like , peopl I dunno if my Mom ever did it but I remember other people's Moms making likehome-made Play-Doh where you just like make the {gap} colouring and make some sort of sort of dough.Project Manager: Yeah .Marketing: Oh yeah it is , yeah . Oh yeah .Project Manager: {vocalsound} Right.User Interface: Mm-hmm .Project Manager: Everybody everybody ready ?Industrial Designer: Yep .UserInterface: Yeah .Project Manager: Okay , let's have your um {disfmarker} let's get {gap} have the uhpresentation ?Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}User Interface: We've got some {gap} .IndustrialDesigner: We've got a cool prototype .User Interface: Yeah , it's pretty exciting . So , everything uh thatwe wanted we wanted it to be ergonomic and to be made out of rubber , very simple and easy to use,Industrial Designer: Double curved .Project Manager: Nice .User Interface: yeah , double curved,Marketing: {vocalsound}User Interface: um but also something that was gonna jump out at people ,something that would be different uh , separate it from the other remotes out on the market . So uh Ithink if you put this in the palm of your hand , you'll see what a nice thing we have going here .ProjectManager: {vocalsound}Marketing: That is cool .User Interface: So , basically , if you hold it like that , theone on your thumb , yeah , {vocalsound} the thumb button is the power button .Project Manager:Mm-hmm . Mm-hmm .User Interface: Your index finger is channel up , middle finger is channel down ,ring finger is volume up , your pinkie is volume down .Marketing: What's the big blue thing ?UserInterface: That's the lock button , has a L_ L_ on itMarketing: Oh cool .User Interface: and then the M_ isa mute button . And then it also has digitProject Manager: {gap} what button ? Um . Oh mute .UserInterface: For muting the uh {disfmarker}Marketing: And mute .User Interface: Um and then then youcan also {disfmarker} there's a numeric keypad on the top so you can key directly to the to the channel ifyou want .Marketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager: Okay .User Interface: So it's really basicfunctionalities as far as what keys are available , but we think it's very comfortable and very innovativeand it looks different .Project Manager: That certainly does .Marketing: {vocalsound}User Interface: Soall the , I mean the important keys are right at your f f you know right at uh at a convenient place for youto to access them .Project Manager: Mm .Industrial Designer: Which is ant anti-R_S_I_ .User Interface:So you don't you {disfmarker} Yeah . It should be .Project Manager: Mm .User Interface: And it's alsoconformable to the size of your hand . I mean if that's too big , it's a rubber remote , so you can , youknowProject Manager: Yeah . 'S great .User Interface: change that . So d does that uh what {disfmarker}mesh with what you guys were hoping and for and expecting or does it {disfmarker}Marketing: Oh it's socute .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Project Manager: I have one thing about it , but it's a small thing, but it'd mean we'd have to make a right-handed one and a left-handed one .Industrial Designer: Ohright , yeah .User Interface: Ah , that's good thinking , yeah .Project Manager: But , that's I don't seewhy that's not possible .User Interface: Yeah , if we build rocket ships why can't we build left-handed andright-handed uh remotes .Project Manager: Yeah . {gap} They make left-handed scissors , you know .{vocalsound}User Interface: {vocalsound} Yeah , I didn't I didn't think about that , but I'd {disfmarker}yeah , {gap} .Marketing: Yeah , but then but then you can learn to use your right h like I was justthinking if there's left-handers and right-handers in the family , what , they have two remotes ?ProjectManager: Yes sIndustrial Designer: Yeah , I know I know people who have left-handed and right-handedpeople in the family and they all use the computer {vocalsound} for the whole {disfmarker} the samecomputer the fes family and they have a mouse , and everybody is using right-handed mouse .ProjectManager: Mm . Sure . Sure .Marketing: Yeah , I'm sure they'll be able to {disfmarker}User Interface:Uh-huh .Marketing: I mean it's only pressing buttons , you don't have to do anything , you know ,"} {"doc_id":"doc_71","qid":"","text":"Industrial Designer: {gap} .User Interface: Hello {vocalsound} . 'Kay .Project Manager: You all saw thenewsflash ?Industrial Designer: It's {disfmarker}Project Manager: Or you got the same message?Marketing: Yeah I I just saw it one minute ago .Project Manager: {vocalsound} Yeah sorry .IndustrialDesigner: I don't know .Marketing: When I uh {disfmarker}Industrial Designer: I didn't see it yet I think.User Interface: Newsflash ? D did I miss something ?Marketing: {vocalsound} Yeah .Project Manager:Yeah . Yeah I received an email so I thought I I can't mail you so I thought I'd just drop it in the folder ,but {disfmarker}Marketing: Yeah pretty much .Industrial Designer: Hey what's wrong with my computer?User Interface: Okay .Project Manager: Is it unlocked ?User Interface: No .Industrial Designer: {gap}.Marketing: Mm . Yeah that's my presentation . {vocalsound}Project Manager: Woah . I uh kind ofopened it {gap} .User Interface: Mm .Industrial Designer: Huh ?Marketing: Mm ?Project Manager: Uh{disfmarker}Industrial Designer: What the {disfmarker}Marketing: Oh right .User Interface: I think youhave to uh change your desktop uhProject Manager: Okay .Marketing: {vocalsound}User Interface: size.Marketing: Ooh . {vocalsound}Project Manager: 'Kay . Everybody ready ?Industrial Designer: Not really.Marketing: Well {disfmarker}Industrial Designer: Sorry .Project Manager: No no no . Yes yes yes .UserInterface: {gap} computer is uh not functioning ?Marketing: Alright .Project Manager: {vocalsound}Okay .Industrial Designer: Okay . Where do I find this ? I'm not so g display huh ?User Interface: Uhdisplay .Marketing: {vocalsound}User Interface: And then uh settings ?Industrial Designer: Appearance?Marketing: Huh .User Interface: Mm I'm not sure I {gap} .Marketing: {vocalsound} You read thenewsflash ? {vocalsound}Project Manager: 'Kay . Can we get startedUser Interface: No .IndustrialDesigner: No what was it about ?Marketing: Hmm .Project Manager: or is there some pressing issue?Industrial Designer: Yeah my computer is not functioning properly .Project Manager: Oh no pressing.User Interface: {vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound} Did you plug inthe power cable when you come back ?Industrial Designer: Yeah yeah . No but my screen is reduced insize . {vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound} Yeah . That's difficult . Yeah .User Interface:{vocalsound}Marketing: What ? {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Yeah .Project Manager:{vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Feedback .Marketing: Hmm .User Interface: Okay .Project Manager:{vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Okay .Marketing: {gap} alt delete . {vocalsound}Project Manager:{vocalsound} Yeah .User Interface: {vocalsound} Format . {vocalsound}Project Manager: Format save.Marketing: {gap} . So it doesn't draw the attention away .Project Manager: Yeah .Industrial Designer:This is dreadful .User Interface: I made uh uh my own map .Project Manager: Oh yeah sure .IndustrialDesigner: No not this , but the task .User Interface: It's a {disfmarker}Project Manager: You havePlaystation also ?User Interface: Yeah .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yeah . {vocalsound} No that'sokay . No I just flapped it , closed it , took it here and then this happened . Ah . Uh {disfmarker} wherewas it ? In settings ? Okay . Alright . Thank you .Project Manager: Huh .Industrial Designer: Do you guyslike your tasks ?User Interface: Yeah .Marketing: Yeah . {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: I spent a lot oftime thinking about what I was gonna do and then a couple of minutes before this I get my function youknow the information that I need .User Interface: Yeah wa wa you actually {disfmarker} Yeah . But it it'snot clear what you have to to to type uh type in your presentation .Industrial Designer: So frustrating.Marketing: Yeah .Industrial Designer: So {disfmarker}Marketing: Yeah . I I had a whole idea and thenjust was typing it and then oh . I have to do that so switch .Industrial Designer: Yeah {disfmarker} Yeahexactly . This presentation is mainly based on my own ideas 'cause I hadn't time to intergrate tha theinformation yet so {disfmarker}User Interface: Yeah .Marketing: Mm .Industrial Designer: Reallyannoying .Project Manager: Okay . So there we are again .Marketing: By your humble P_M_ .ProjectManager: Yeah .Marketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager: Okay this is the agenda . Um we have threepresentations , I heard .Marketing: {vocalsound}User Interface: Really . {vocalsound}Project Manager:Yeah really . {vocalsound} So who wants to start ?Marketing: Yeah that's fine {gap} .IndustrialDesigner: Yeah .Marketing: We have to start it right away ? {vocalsound}Project Manager: Yeah . Uh thisis you ?Marketing: Functional ? Yeah functional requirements .Project Manager: 'Kay .Marketing: Alright ."} {"doc_id":"doc_72","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: Okay . Uh door is closed . {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}ProjectManager: Well , let's begin . Because if we have as much time as the last uh meeting , we'll have to hurryup .Marketing: I'm listening .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Marketing: Right .Project Manager: Umwell I'll start with the presentation again , the agenda .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Marketing:Great .Project Manager: Yo . So . {vocalsound} {vocalsound} Uh {disfmarker} {vocalsound} This one Ithink .Marketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound} Uh yeah . Well alright . Um well , I'll showyou the notes . It's not as uh interesting as it should be because we just uh had the meeting ,Marketing:{vocalsound}Project Manager: but I'll show them . We'll get your presentations again on the conceptualdesign . Um {disfmarker} Then we'll have to dec decide about the control , the remote control concepts .I've put a f uh a file in the project management folder , which says exactly uh what kind of decisions weshould take .Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .Project Manager: So {vocalsound} this time we exactly knowwhat to decide about .Marketing: {vocalsound} Alright , great .Project Manager: And then we'll closeagain .Industrial Designer: Alright .Project Manager: Uh {disfmarker} Well these are some examples ,but we'll talk about them later . We'll {vocalsound} first look at your uh presentations . Alright ?IndustrialDesigner: Mm-hmm .Project Manager: Walter will uh start again this time ?Marketing: Yeah , great.Project Manager: Yo .Marketing: Alright , Trendwatch .Project Manager: 'Kay .Marketing: {gap}ProjectManager: {vocalsound}Marketing: Right . I will speak about uh latest trends trends , latest fashionupdates , and uh things we must not do .Project Manager: 'Kay .Marketing: Uh the trends . {vocalsound}It's very important that uh the control is fancy looking and good uh feeling . Uh this because of our lastmodel was very functional , but {vocalsound} it uh people didn't like that , so our new mo model must bevery good-looking . That's uh something you uh have to take a look at .Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .Alright .Marketing: And uh the feeling has to be very great . Also the menus and things like that theyhave to they have to feel great .Industrial Designer: Alright .Marketing: Um there's a minus uh two timeshere , because this is the most important point . This is uh two times as less important ,Project Manager:Less . {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Marketing: and uh same for this one .{vocalsound} Um , technological technological innovations , that's uh regarded very highly too .ProjectManager: {vocalsound}Marketing: Uh such as an uh L_C_D_ screen , uh speech uh acknowledgement ,as we uh talked about earlier .Project Manager: Well , yeah .Marketing: So we have to have uhsomething like that , like we uh {disfmarker}Project Manager: L_C_D_ and our uh our fronts .Marketing:Right . {vocalsound} Uh the last point is easy to use . Well I think that uh speaks for s for itself . I don'tknow who's uh who's going to look at that .Industrial Designer: Easy to use ?Project Manager: Well , easyto use uh s is a bit uh contradictionary with the first uh {disfmarker}Marketing: Yeah ?IndustrialDesigner: I think that's your taUser Interface: {gap}Project Manager: Functional is not an issue , andthen easy to use .Marketing: Yeah , I know .Project Manager: Well we have to choose one of them .{vocalsound}Marketing: I think we have to go for the first one .Project Manager: Yeah .{vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Mm .Marketing: It's the most important one . So {gap} we have to uhtake that one .Project Manager: Okay .Marketing: So it it {vocalsound} it isn't very important that{vocalsound} that it works easy .User Interface: Well something fancy looking can be can be easy to use.Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound} But {vocalsound} it has to look great.Project Manager: Yeah . We'll we'll look at uh {gap} .Industrial Designer: You {disfmarker} Yeah . Yeah, yeah ,Marketing: We'll see . {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: you can make a very complicated uh uhremote anyway , so ease of use {disfmarker} {vocalsound} It's not a very comp complicated device.Marketing: Yeah , right . But the most important thing is that it looks great and people say {gap} wow ,that's real great uh great concept .Project Manager: 'Kay .Industrial Designer: Alright .Marketing: Alright. Uh these are the new colours of this year .User Interface: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer:{vocalsound}Marketing: So it must be very bright , very colourful .Project Manager:{vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}Marketing: People like this .ProjectManager: {vocalsound}User Interface: {vocalsound}Marketing: So we we have to think uh in this"} {"doc_id":"doc_73","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: {vocalsound} Uh welcome back after lunch , I hope uh you had a good lunch together .For uh this meeting the main agenda okay uh to discuss about the conceptual design meeting . Okay andthe agenda will be the opening and uh {disfmarker} that's uh {disfmarker} the product manager orsecretary that's me and uh the presentations from the Christine and uh Agnes and from Mister Ed . Andfinally in this meeting we have to decideMarketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager: and we are to take adecision on the remote control concept and uh the functional design So we have forty minutes , I thinkit's uh little bit uh low , but I I hope we can finish it up {vocalsound} so I'll handle to the the functionalteam , to the Christine , okay , to discuss about uh the components concept .Industrial Designer: Okay .So uh , if you could open the PowerPoint presentation .Marketing: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: I'mnumber two .Project Manager: You're number two . 'KayIndustrial Designer: {vocalsound} Componentsdesign , there we go .Marketing: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: So uh can we put it in slide showmode ? Yeah .Project Manager: The next one .Industrial Designer: Right here , is that little {disfmarker}that one , yes please .Marketing: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Thank you .Project Manager:{vocalsound}Industrial Designer: I'll take the mouse . {vocalsound} So uhProject Manager:{vocalsound}Industrial Designer: we were looking he specifically at the components uh {disfmarker} thefollowing components , uh the case , the power supply , uh the means of communications with thetelevision set . In instance we had talked about using some sort of speech recognition ,Project Manager:{vocalsound}Industrial Designer: you have to have microphone {disfmarker} well no you don't actually Ihaven't {disfmarker} have to have microphone in the device , but um maybe you do have it a a way{disfmarker}Marketing: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: it has to it has to hear the speakerUserInterface: Mm-hmm .Industrial Designer: and um , so it could be in the television set , could be in thedevice , but somewhere you have to put the microphone , um and a w a way of making beeps or soundsso you can find it when it's gets lost . Um so the other w thing that we {disfmarker} So . Our method forgoing about this is we've looked at uh the histo hi historical record , what's worked , what hasn't and thenwe also um {disfmarker} we wanted to evaluate some new materialsMarketing: {vocalsound}IndustrialDesigner: and we contacted manufacturing for their input because , course , we m might {vocalsound}come up and choose the material that then manufacturing didn't have the technologies or capabilities tooffer us , so uh this is the approach that we took during our um {disfmarker} our research .Marketing:{vocalsound}Industrial Designer: So um for the case , um we told we were making a specifica specificassumption that it would be curved in design .Marketing: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}{vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Course , you know , I wanted it to be expandable and shrinkable , butum that uh doesn't seem to b be one of the choic non-option we can uh {disfmarker} we can reallyseriously explore ,User Interface: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} so thenwe were thinking about um rubber , but um unfortunately that's been eliminated because of the heat uhfactorUser Interface: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: and th um there might be some {vocalsound}problems with the m uh how it's {disfmarker} {vocalsound} uh goes with the board . {vocalsound} Uhand uh then th plastic also has this problem of melting and it's brittle {disfmarker} it gets brittle after awhile ,User Interface: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: so um we still had titanium and and woodavailable , but um unfortunately uh uh titanium's also been eliminated uh ,User Interface:{vocalsound}Industrial Designer: the m people in manufacturing said that you couldn't make d curvedcases out of titanium , although how {vocalsound} Apple did it with th PowerBook I'm not su quite surebut uh nevertheless um they've eliminated all of our options except wood .User Interface: {vocalsound}At least it's environmentally friendly . {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} So , {vocalsound}this is our finding .Marketing: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: And a as she said , it's anenvironmentally friendly uh material , so we're {disfmarker} we're {vocalsound} currently uh proposing,Marketing: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: uh we'll get to all my personal preferences in just a second.Marketing: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: So then there's this other matter of the chips and um wellwe could use a simple design on the board ,User Interface: {vocalsound}Project Manager:"} {"doc_id":"doc_74","qid":"","text":"PhD A: Alright . We 're on .Professor B: Test , um . Test , test , test . Guess that 's me . Yeah . OK .GradD: Ooh , Thursday .Professor B: So . There 's two sheets of paper in front of us .PhD A: What are these?PhD E: Yeah . So .Professor B: This is the arm wrestling ?PhD C: Uh . Yeah , we formed a coalitionactually .PhD E: Yeah . Almost .PhD C: We already made it into one .Professor B: Oh , good .PhD C: Yeah.Professor B: Excellent .PhD E: Yeah .Professor B: That 's the best thing .PhD E: Mm - hmm .Professor B:So , tell me about it .PhD E: So it 's {disfmarker} well , it 's {pause} spectral subtraction or Wienerfiltering , um , depending on if we put {disfmarker} if we square the transfer function or not .Professor B:Right .PhD E: And then with over - estimation of the noise , depending on the , uh {disfmarker} the SNR, with smoothing along time , um , smoothing along frequency .Professor B: Mm - hmm .PhD E: It 's verysimple , smoothing things .Professor B: Mm - hmm .PhD E: And , um , {vocalsound} the best result is{vocalsound} when we apply this procedure on FFT bins , uh , with a Wiener filter .Professor B: Mm -hmm .PhD E: And there is no noise addition after {disfmarker} after that .Professor B: OK .PhD E: So it 'sgood because {vocalsound} {vocalsound} it 's difficult when we have to add noise to {disfmarker} to{disfmarker} to find the right level .Professor B: OK .PhD A: Are you looking at one in {disfmarker} inparticular of these two ?PhD E: Yeah . So the sh it 's the sheet that gives fifty - f three point sixty - six.Professor B: Mm - hmm .PhD E: Um , {vocalsound} the second sheet is abo uh , about the same . It 'sthe same , um , idea but it 's working on mel bands , {vocalsound} and it 's a spectral subtraction insteadof Wiener filter , and there is also a noise addition after , uh , cleaning up the mel bins . Mmm . Well , theresults are similar .Professor B: Yeah . I mean , {vocalsound} it 's {disfmarker} {comment} it 's actually, uh , very similar .PhD E: Mm - hmm .Professor B: I mean , {vocalsound} if you look at databases , uh ,the , uh , one that has the smallest {disfmarker} smaller overall number is actually better on the Finnishand Spanish , uh , but it is , uh , worse on the , uh , Aurora {disfmarker}PhD E: It 's worse on{disfmarker}Professor B: I mean on the , uh , TI - TI - digits ,PhD E: on the multi - condition in TI - digits. Yeah .Professor B: uh , uh . Um .PhD E: Mmm .Professor B: So , it probably doesn't matter that mucheither way . But , um , when you say u uh , unified do you mean , uh , it 's one piece of software now , or{disfmarker} ?PhD E: So now we are , yeah , setting up the software .Professor B: Mm - hmm .PhD E:Um , it should be ready , uh , very soon . Um , and wePhD A: So what 's {disfmarker} what 's happened? I think I 've missed something .Professor B: OK . So a week ago {disfmarker} maybe you weren'taround when {disfmarker} when {disfmarker} when Hynek and Guenther and I {disfmarker} ?PhD C:Hynek was here .PhD A: Yeah . I didn't .Professor B: Oh , OK . So {disfmarker} Yeah , let 's summarize .Um {disfmarker} And then if I summarize somebody can tell me if I 'm wrong , which will also bepossibly helpful . What did I just press here ? I hope this is still working .PhD E: p - p - pProfessor B: We ,uh {disfmarker} we looked at , {nonvocalsound} uh {disfmarker} anyway we {disfmarker}{vocalsound} after coming back from QualComm we had , you know , very strong feedback and , uh , Ithink it was {vocalsound} Hynek and Guenter 's and my opinion also that , um , you know , we sort ofspread out to look at a number of different ways of doing noise suppression . But given the limited time ,uh , it was sort of time to {pause} choose one .PhD A: Mm - hmm . Mmm .Professor B: Uh , and so , uh ,th the vector Taylor series hadn't really worked out that much . Uh , the subspace stuff , uh , had notbeen worked with so much . Um , so it sort of came down to spectral subtraction versus Wiener filtering.PhD A: Hmm .Professor B: Uh , we had a long discussion about how they were the same and how theywere d uh , completely different .PhD A: Mm - hmm .Professor B: And , uh , I mean , fundamentally they're the same sort of thing but the math is a little different so that there 's a {disfmarker} a {disfmarker}{vocalsound} there 's an exponent difference in the index {disfmarker} you know , what 's the idealfiltering , and depending on how you construct the problem .PhD A: Uh - huh .Professor B: And , uh , Iguess it 's sort {disfmarker} you know , after {disfmarker} after that meeting it sort of made more senseto me because {vocalsound} um , if you 're dealing with power spectra then how are you gonna chooseyour error ? And typically you 'll do {disfmarker} choose something like a variance . And so that means it'll be something like the square of the power spectra . Whereas when you 're {disfmarker} when you 're"} {"doc_id":"doc_75","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: Okay . Here we go . Alright , the agenda for thi oh . Alright . Um the agenda for thismeeting {vocalsound} is um {disfmarker} we'll initially have the prototype presentation by our twodesigners . And then we will evaluate it , given the criteria that um that we gave gave it . And um talkabout our finances , whether we were under or over our budget . I have a um a spreadsheet where wecan calculate um our prices for every aspect of of what we've made , given our options . And um evaluatethe product , as a group .Industrial Designer: Okay .Project Manager: And um {disfmarker} So first we'llhave the prototype presentation . Do you need the um PowerPoint for this ?Industrial Designer: Um yeah. I just got a few slides , so show them .Project Manager: Alright .Industrial Designer: Thank you . Do youwant to present it ? {vocalsound}User Interface: {vocalsound} Um {disfmarker}Industrial Designer:Yeah , here we are .User Interface: {vocalsound} This is what we came up with . It's a pretty simpledesign . It's um based on a mango ? Yeah . And {vocalsound} we {disfmarker}Marketing:{vocalsound}Project Manager: On ?Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Mango shape .Project Manager:{vocalsound} A mango . Okay .User Interface: Yeah . And we have the company logo here and this willbe the infrared hereIndustrial Designer: The L_E_D_ .User Interface: and this'll be the power point , theon off button kind {disfmarker}Project Manager: Oh . Okay .User Interface: yeah .Marketing: I'm sorry.Project Manager: Oops .Marketing: What was the {disfmarker} where's the L_E_D_ ?User Interface: It'sin the middle of one of the little R_s .Marketing: Oh . Okay .User Interface: And then the other one is thepower . And uh we just have a simple design . We wanted it all to beIndustrial Designer: So it's palm-held.User Interface: accessible from your thumbIndustrial Designer: Yeah .User Interface: {disfmarker} yeahpalm-heldProject Manager: Yeah .User Interface: and all the buttons are accessible from your thumb.Project Manager: Notice you have a number ten button .User Interface: So you don't have to{disfmarker} Oh that was a mistake , wasn't it ?Project Manager: {vocalsound} Okay .{vocalsound}Industrial Designer: You just need the nought . {vocalsound}User Interface: Right no ,that's a zero .Marketing: {vocalsound}User Interface: {vocalsound} Take that one off . {vocalsound}Sorry . I was in charge of the numbers . {vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound} No problem.Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound} Ah .UserInterface: And this is just if you've got like eleven or twelve or thirt the plus .Industrial Designer: So oneplus one would be eleven ,User Interface: {vocalsound} You can go one , three or something .IndustrialDesigner: or {disfmarker}Project Manager: Oh . You press a plus button ?User Interface: You press thatfirst and then you go one three yeah .Project Manager: Oh okay . I've never heard of that kind before.User Interface: Well we just thought , we have all the numbers here , so we wanted somethingrepresentative of numbers larger than ten and {disfmarker}Project Manager: Yeah .Industrial Designer:Yeah because if you {disfmarker} on your average um remote , if you press one twice you just go to{disfmarker} um or uh say you wanted channel twelve , you press one , and then you go to channel one ,and then two then you'd just go to channel two , instead of twelve .Project Manager: Yeah .Marketing: Oh, there's no eProject Manager: Oh .Industrial Designer: So if you did like one plus two you could go tochannel twelve , or two plus two is channel twenty two .User Interface: So the plus and then{disfmarker}Marketing: okay .User Interface: yeah .Project Manager: IMarketing: Okay .ProjectManager: But {disfmarker} Would you have to go zero plus one if you wanted to go to channel one ortwo ?User Interface: No no , th all {disfmarker} that's why we have all these numbers . These numbersum these numbers all work independently up to nine . {vocalsound}Project Manager: Yeah but I mean ifyou press , it'll go to that channel right away . 'Cause you gotta press the plus afterwards .User Interface:Yeah . Oh no . Uh , the plus is only for if you're going past the number nine .Project Manager: Yeah Iknow , but if if I wanna go to say number like sixty five , channel sixty five , if I press the six it'll go tochannel six , and then I'll press the plus , and then it'll go to six and then put the five and it'll go to sixtyfive ?Marketing: Sixty .User Interface: You p Oh . No you press the plus first .Industrial Designer: Oh.User Interface: I I {disfmarker} well it doesn't {disfmarker} we haven't really s I would've thought youpressed the plus first and then the six five ,Marketing: {vocalsound}User Interface: but she says plus"} {"doc_id":"doc_76","qid":"","text":"User Interface: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Okay . {vocalsound} Yeah . That's okay . That's okay.Marketing: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Okay .Project Manager: Am I starting now ? Anytime ? Ohsorry . 'Kay , um . Alright , welcome back fro to the second meeting . And um I hope you had aproductive last thirty minutes .User Interface: {vocalsound}Project Manager: Um , and um , I'll be takingminutes on this one , and um {disfmarker} Being hooked up to the PowerPoint for this meeting isn't verynecessary for uh myself , because it'll be more about uh , what you guys are bringing to the meetingtoday . Um , so , the first presentation we'll be looking at is Poppy's presentation . And , um {disfmarker}So , sorry ? So , um , take it away Poppy .Industrial Designer: Okay . Um , do I need to {disfmarker}{gap}Project Manager: It's , it's plugged in . So , um {disfmarker}Industrial Designer: plugged in .UserInterface: F_ eight , w . Function F_ eight .Industrial Designer: F_ okay . Function F_ eight . Sorry aboutthis guys .Project Manager: No problem .User Interface: {gap}Industrial Designer: 'Kay . {gap} is on .Right . {gap} Okay . I will take this time just to apologise .User Interface: {vocalsound}IndustrialDesigner: I , I only , uh , received my emails later on . 'Cause I was too busy carried away doing my ownthing ,Marketing: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: which is not obviously not a very good part of ateam-working thing .User Interface: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: But there we go .Project Manager:I'm sure it's fine .Industrial Designer: Um , so I was looking at how we're going to go about the workingdesign , and what we actually need to do , and what the remote control needs to do . And it needs to umallow a person to have a portable desi device , so they can control the television from wherever they are .They don't need to actually manually touch the television set . So , it gives them much more flexibility ,and allows them to be where they want to be . Um , from {disfmarker} Uh , on a functional side of things, we found out that wh from our previous meeting , we decided that there're certain points that will makeour product unique . Um , one is the visibility in the dark , which was um Genevieve's idea . So we needto think about how we could bring this in um technically . And we could use illuminated buttons , whichwe are all familiar with when we're using a mobile phone , or um something fam familiar . A automatically, um lights up at first touch . Or we could use fluorescent materials which would just um take in the lightduring the day , and then as soon as they go off they would glow in the dark . Um , also we could use uman alarm . So if we lost the um remote control , perhaps there could be a button on the television setitself , which you could press , and then an alarm from the handset would sound where it was , hopefullyin the room . Maybe behind a cushion or somewhere .Project Manager: {vocalsound}User Interface:{vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Um , so that would work . Um , oop . Go back there . Um , anotherthing I think we d missed out on on the last meeting was the fact that we should consider theenvironmental impact of our design . Um , from previous researches I've carried out on other projects ,um we've learnt about smart materials where um um specific alloys of metals have a shape memory.User Interface: {vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: So they can be heated andum and cooled , and they change the shape of um the metal . So , for example , a screw that's holdingsomething together could expand and it would force all the components apart . So um , the benefits ofthis for our product would be that when it came to the end of its product life , if it was heated , umeverything would spring apart . So , all the um individual components could be easily separated , andthen some could be reused , some could be recycled , and I think that would be very important forproducts now . Especially 'cause there's much uh responsibility for all the um companies who are comingup with like new designs . 'Cause all , we all know that our resources are being limited , and we have tobe very environmentally conscious .Project Manager: Right , um , one question . This , um ,self-destructible uh metal , it allows for recycling materials ?Industrial Designer: Yeah .Project Manager:So that , um , someone could have this product for as long as they felt that they wanted it , and thenonce they contribute it , then that company can break down the part , the parts better ?IndustrialDesigner: Um {disfmarker} And then {disfmarker} Yeah . Yeah they would , um you would make the ,the product as you normally would , apart from the , the bits that hold it all together would be made outof this shape-memory alloy . And that's the part that would um allow all the other parts to be separated"} {"doc_id":"doc_77","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: Okay . {vocalsound} Well , let's start . What are we doing ? Oops . {vocalsound}UserInterface: Hmm .Industrial Designer: Ah , pinball .Project Manager: {vocalsound} Okay . Okay . Notdoing .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}User Interface: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer:{vocalsound}Marketing: Mm . Ah . Hey . {vocalsound} Ah .Project Manager: Uh {disfmarker}UserInterface: Oh .Marketing: Now I have my screen back too . {vocalsound}Project Manager: Very good.Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound} Okay .Industrial Designer:{vocalsound}Marketing: Yeah .Project Manager: {vocalsound} {gap} we have presentations . So first ,it's your turn .Industrial Designer: {gap}User Interface: Mine . Oh , great .Project Manager:{vocalsound} Yeah . Isn't it amazing . {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Huh . {vocalsound}Marketing:{vocalsound} Yeah . Very interesting .User Interface: Uh {disfmarker}Marketing: {vocalsound}IndustrialDesigner: {vocalsound}User Interface: {vocalsound}Project Manager: Industrial Designer . Interfaceconcept .User Interface: {vocalsound} Yes , well uh let's uh talk about the interface uh concept . Uh ,first I'll uh I'll uh discuss the buttons we just chose , uh show you some samples , uh uh discuss somecolours and design maybe , already . And uh my personal preferences . {vocalsound} Well we chose thepower button to switch the television on and off . The bu uh the mute button to switch the volume on ando on and off . The channels buttons , one to nine , and uh off uh uh zero to nine , and the uh button tochoose uh higher channels than nine . Uh the volume and channel quadrants , uh left and right , up anddown arrows , to uh do the volume and channel . And the menu menu button to man manipulate theL_C_D_ uh display . Um , I found some uh interesting uh uh samples . Examples .Industrial Designer:{vocalsound}User Interface: Um , well uh what's pretty standard is uh that it's {disfmarker} that they'reall pretty uh uh high uh {disfmarker}Marketing: Large .User Interface: Yeah . Yeah . Large and and andpretty thin and uh and long .Marketing: A lot {disfmarker} a lot of buttons buttons .User Interface: Um ,power buttons are mostly at the top uh left or right . Um , well we see the the the same uh arrows . Likethere . And uh {disfmarker} Yeah , well arrow b buttons can be blue . And what's interesting is the thethe icons on the buttons . Some buttons have icons like the play and stop , but we don't use that . But uh, these we we have to choose the right icons , or or letters . Uh this is the V_ for volume , but they'reboth uh a V_ .Project Manager: {vocalsound}User Interface: So it's it's not really very uh clear what's thefunction of that .Marketing: Yeah .User Interface: Um {disfmarker} Yeah . So , that's{disfmarker}Project Manager: {vocalsound} Can you go back one page ? For the uh menu , what do weuse for that ? We don't have buttons for the menu .User Interface: Uh , well {disfmarker}ProjectManager: Or we may have to use channel of the volume and channel {gap} .User Interface: Yeah . Ithought that was our uh idea .Project Manager: Okay . But {gap} uh {disfmarker}User Interface: So , uhhow {disfmarker}Project Manager: You have to put it on the {disfmarker}User Interface: Like this.Project Manager: Yeah .User Interface: Or or this . And that the menu button is okay .Project Manager:Yeah but , has to be clear that you can use the arrows .User Interface: {vocalsound} Yeah , okay.Marketing: Yes .User Interface: Uh , so the {disfmarker} The icons on the arrows , as well , you mean.Project Manager: Mm-hmm . Yes . The second one .User Interface: Yeah . Uh , well that's something touh think about . {vocalsound}Project Manager: Okay .Industrial Designer: Uh , maybe I'll havesomething in my uh presentation . And you will see it .User Interface: Okay .Marketing: Okay .{vocalsound}User Interface: Um , well I don't I don't know if we have to discuss this already , or in thenext uh meeting .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}User Interface: But uh , as we have to uh to to designthe the case and the whole uh remote control in our uh our our corporate uh company uh uh colours andthe logo , I would uh recommend a yellow case . Uh , round edges . The logo at the bottom . And uh ,well maybe each each uh set of buttons uh has uh has his own colour . So , it's good . Uh , recognisable .K so , I think .Project Manager: {vocalsound} Not too much colours .User Interface: Uh , no . Not toomuch .Project Manager: No , it's not flower power .User Interface: But uh {disfmarker} No , no , no . Butthis has to be has to be trendy and uh {disfmarker} and {gap} {disfmarker} {vocalsound}ProjectManager: S okay .User Interface: Uh , yeah so good uh good icons on the buttons , and uh and big"} {"doc_id":"doc_78","qid":"","text":"Lynne Neagle AM: Okay, good morning, everyone. Welcome to the Children, Young People and EducationCommittee. We've received no apologies for absence. Can I ask Members whether there are anydeclarations of interest, please? No. Okay. Thank you. Item 2 this morning is our evidence session withthe Cabinet Secretary for Education for our inquiry into the status of the Welsh baccalaureatequalification. I'm very pleased to welcome Kirsty Williams AM, Cabinet Secretary for Education; KevinPalmer, who is deputy director, pedagogy, leadership and professional learning; and Andrew Clark,deputy director, further education and apprenticeships division. So, thank you all for attending, and we'relooking forward to hearing what you've got to say. If you're happy, Cabinet Secretary, we'll go straight toquestions.Kirsty Williams AM: Of course.Lynne Neagle AM: And the first questions are from JulieMorgan.Julie Morgan AM: Thank you very much, Chair, and bore da. I was going to ask some generalquestions about the value of the baccalaureate. Could you give us your views on how the Welsh bac isvalued by learners and teachers?Kirsty Williams AM: Bore da, Julie, and thank you very much for yourquestion. Firstly, I'd like to begin by saying that I as the Cabinet Secretary value the qualification verymuch indeed. I believe that it helps ensure that we are able to give our young people in Wales a broadand balanced curriculum, recognising the need to develop knowledge and skills in core subjects butrecognising also that the purpose of education is to help prepare our children for further study and theworld of work, and I believe that the skills challenge element of the baccalaureate does just that. I meetwith young people and teachers all the time who tell me about the positive experiences they have hadstudying for the Welsh bac, and much of that was evidenced in Qualifications Wales's review into theWelsh baccalaureate. They did focus group work with a representative sample, and many of the learnersexpressed the fact that they have enjoyed studying for the qualification and have gained a great dealfrom it. I meet regularly with individuals who have been able to use their bac to successfully gain a placeat university, so I believe there's a huge value for Welsh young people being able to study this particularqualification alongside the more traditional qualifications that perhaps we're all used to. I think thechallenge is that, given that many people are very familiar with what a GCSE is and, as parents, we willknow what that is and many of us will have done—some of us are so old we'll have done O-levels. Weknow what those traditional qualifications look like, and therefore a new qualification—there's always ajob of work to do to communicate that, if people aren't used to it, but I value it hugely. I think that, whilstthere is always room for improvement—and, of course, you'll be aware of the review that QualificationsWales undertook and that has suggested ways in which we can further improve and refine thequalification, but I think it is a valuable piece of work for Welsh young people to undertake.Julie MorganAM: It's great that you've been around listening to learners and what they have said about it. Have youhad any negative feedback?Kirsty Williams AM: Well, occasionally, of course, we do have concerns raisedwith us, and those concerns are similar to the ones that have been raised in the Qualifications Walesreview. So, for instance, we sometimes have concerns about how some students balance the Welsh bacwith other qualifications they may be taking. Some teachers feed back around the workload issuesassociated with the Welsh baccalaureate. For some students, there may be concerns about the nature ofthe Welsh bac and whether that can impact negatively on their well-being. And, obviously, that's whyQualifications Wales have undertaken this piece of work so that we can refine, if necessary, thatqualification and how we continue to look at how we ensure my belief that taking the Welsh bac should bethe norm for students but also recognising that, in some cases, there needs to be flexibility to ensure thatthe well-being of the student is not compromised.Julie Morgan AM: And so would you say that it's valuedby learners more or less at key stage 4 or post 16?Kirsty Williams AM: Well, I think that, as I said, thevast majority of students I meet report very positively about the opportunities that are afforded forstudying at that level. Occasionally, we hear from students who I believe think that in studying thesubject they may be compromising their chances because they want to do additional A-levels, and I'msure we'll come on to, later on, whether universities, and whether the Russell Group universities inparticular, value the qualification. But I feel that there are particular strengths. And I think what's really"} {"doc_id":"doc_79","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: Uh 'kay . So {disfmarker}Marketing: So so so .User Interface: Put on your mic.Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} So you forgot how this works again ?User Interface: Boss .ProjectManager: Yep .Industrial Designer: {gap} Boss .Marketing: Maybe . Maybe maybe maybe .ProjectManager: Okay so we're here to talk about the detailed design of the product , 'kay ?User Interface: Yep.Project Manager: And here's the agenda for this meeting . Uh I'm just gonna open , say a few boringwords to start with again , and start taking minutes afterwards . You guys are gonna give us apresentation of our wonder product that I can see some demonstrations of over there . Looks cool . Andthen we're gonna evaluate it .Marketing: {vocalsound} BraUser Interface: {vocalsound}Project Manager:Then we're gonna talk about finance , and I've got a lovely Excel spreadsheet that I knocked up in thelast five minutes for this . And uhIndustrial Designer: {vocalsound} Hmm you knocked it up ?ProjectManager: yep . And {vocalsound} we're gonna evaluate the product and close .User Interface:{vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Project Manager: Got forty minutes to do this in . Weshould be fine . Let's try and keep this one on schedule .User Interface: Alright .Project Manager: So{disfmarker}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound} Your thing is in{disfmarker} where is it ? Is it in {disfmarker}User Interface: Three , three .Industrial Designer: Thi thirdthird third . The end product thingy . Yeah .Project Manager: Who wants it ?User Interface: Pedro canhave it .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}User Interface: I like {disfmarker}Industrial Designer: {gap}.User Interface: I'll help talk .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Um yeah so what we ended up with .Production costs estimated by our manufacturing department and um the research department , which isus , is uh fifteen point eight Euros ,User Interface: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: someone forgot the{vocalsound} units thereUser Interface: Unit price .Industrial Designer: yeah , uh unit price {disfmarker}unit production price cost thing . Um we implemented the basic functions , which is just T_V_ functionsplus the locator , which was one of the marketing things , cradle , scroll wheel for uh the {vocalsound}the channels , and uh we implemented the f the the way of putting the new and revolutionary zapping ,your favourite channels functionality , in the scroll .Project Manager: Zapping your favourite channels , eh?Industrial Designer: Yeah .User Interface: Scrolling through your favourites list .Project Manager: Ohokay okay .Industrial Designer: Zapping you know zapping .Project Manager: Ah 'kay okay , that'sfavourites .Industrial Designer: Maybe it's just a Portuguese thing {vocalsound} . And um yeah that wasthe result .Project Manager: Ah 'kay . I like the the the the logo on there as well .Industrial Designer:{vocalsound}User Interface: It's very prominent {vocalsound} .Project Manager: It is very prominent .So this is the {disfmarker}User Interface: So {vocalsound} here I'll give you the {disfmarker} so this isthe cradle unit , and this is the actual remote itself . Um so the scroll bar is {disfmarker} or the scrollwheel is this this green little scrolly guy here , um and then the volume controls are here and here.Project Manager: Okay .User Interface: Uh you've got the keypad which is the numbers uh f from zero tonine and then ten . This is the power button . Uh we have our um {vocalsound} we have the enter buttonand uh what was the other button here ? This is the teletext .Industrial Designer: Start s the the start uhto to toUser Interface: The programme button ,Industrial Designer: programme yeah .Project Manager:Ah , okay I see .User Interface: yeah the programme button . So this bl this button will be used both forthe favourites and for programming {vocalsound} your uh the um the type of television you wanna use .So um the plastic is the white area of this {disfmarker} of the model here , and the red area is like arubber covering .Project Manager: It's pretty cool .User Interface: So you can see that when it lays likethis or like this {disfmarker} and the buttons are all gonna be rubber , so it's pretty hard to actuallydamage it um {disfmarker}Project Manager: Is that {disfmarker} could that be easy to {disfmarker} forthe scroll wheel to be rotated if it lands on it ?User Interface: Yeah that might be a possible a mi uhpossible problem , but if you drop it {disfmarker}Industrial Designer: Not helping {vocalsound} .ProjectManager: {vocalsound}User Interface: yeah {vocalsound} .Project Manager: Oh well I guess it dependson the stiffness a little of it .User Interface: Yeah and it depends on if it's sliding , but I think it's prettyergonomic . You can feel it .Project Manager: Mm . Feels good .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Project"} {"doc_id":"doc_80","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: Okay , all set ? Welcome to the conceptual design meeting .User Interface: Uh , okay.Industrial Designer: Yes .Project Manager: The agenda . The opening . I'll again be the secretary andmake minutes , take minutes , uh and it will be three presentations , just like the last meeting . So um ,{vocalsound} who wants to start off ? Technical uh designer again ?User Interface: {vocalsound} Again.Project Manager: Okay .User Interface: Hmm .Project Manager: Uh , yeah . Uh , before we begin it , Iwant to say I've I've put the minutes of the uh second meeting in the shared folder , but they're still notuh quite okay . It uh it uh still some technical difficulties so the the first part of the minutes are very hardto read , because there are two documents that uh were layered over each other .User Interface:Mm-hmm .Marketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager: So {disfmarker}Marketing: Okay .Project Manager:But uh , from now on I won't use my pen anymore , so will be p just {vocalsound} ordinary keyboard.User Interface: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound}User Interface:Uh , may be better , yeah .Marketing: Keyboard work . Yeah .Project Manager: I think it {gap} will will bemore uh easy for you to read the minutes .User Interface: Yeah .Marketing: Alright .Industrial Designer:Okay , when we talk about uh components design , um it's really about the material and the{disfmarker} and uh uh really the stuff we build uh the remote controls of . Um , a remote control consistof uh components and the components of a remote control consist of uh properties and material . Wehave to choose th uh these uh wisely and it could affect uh uh a kind of grow of {disfmarker} in uh inbuying uh the remote controls . Um , the components of a remote control are of course uh the case . Uhthe properties of the case , um it has to be solid uh in hard material like uh hard plastic uh with softrubber for uh falling and and uh uh {disfmarker} yeah , it feels uh good in your hand .Marketing:{vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Mm the buttons has to be uh solid too , and the material is soft rubber .Uh I've got a uh email from the possibilities of Real Reaction . Um uh they're telling me that um when webuild uh a remote control of um of plastic or rubber , the uh buttons have to be uh rubber too . Mm{disfmarker} It's okay . Yeah . I when we use a rubbled {disfmarker} a doubled curved case , we mustuse a rubber push-buttons to {disfmarker} uh the the rubber double-curved case is a is a t uhthree-dimensional uh curve in the in the design , which is uh necessary when we want to be trendy . Uh{disfmarker} UmUser Interface: Oh .Industrial Designer: the energy source , uh I've got a lot ofpossibilities for that too . Um , uh the basic battery , which I thi prefer because of its uh its non uhnon-depending of of of uh um {disfmarker} Uh here you have to have a hand uh {disfmarker} yeah ,kinetic uh energy . Also in uh this one , like in the watches , but a remote control can lie on a table for aday , and then you push uh a button and {disfmarker} so you don't have to uh walk with it all the all thetime . Mm , solar cells are also uh a bit weird for uh remote controls .Marketing: {vocalsound}{vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Um uh also the casematerial , uh I think that plastic is the is the best with rubber , because uh wood or titanium would alsobe a bit weird .User Interface: Oh titanium is probably trendy , I think . {gap} .Marketing: That's true , Iguess . Yeah .User Interface: Well , maybe a little bit expensive .Marketing: {vocalsound}User Interface:I don't know .Industrial Designer: Uh , they don't tell anything about the cost of uh titanium .Marketing:Huh .Industrial Designer: Um the chip {disfmarker} uh the chip set uh and the board is uh all off theshelf . Also , the speaker in the remote control , when we want to retrieve it . Um , the base station isalso off the shelf , all the materials and the components are uh just available in uh in our uh factory . Mm, I've told about uh the three first points . Mm , the simple electronical chip uh is is available uh with theLED transmitter uh transmitter . Uh , it's all uh off the shelf and even the speaker and the wirelessretriever are all uh available in our company . Um , another possibility . I uh yeah , I looked up on was uhthe L_C_D_ displays . Could be uh something special to our uh remote control , and it's possible , but itonly cost a bit more , but maybe it can be uh within the limits of twenty five Euros .Project Manager:Twelve and a half . Actually {disfmarker}Industrial Designer: Ah yeah .Marketing: Yeah .User Interface:Yeah , production cost .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} I th I got an email with uh some examples andit {disfmarker} these were were the most trendiest one .User Interface: {vocalsound}Industrial"} {"doc_id":"doc_81","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: {vocalsound} Wouldn't wanna be Project Manager . {vocalsound} Uh , what we goingto do .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager: Um , once again I'muh gonna take minutes . So , um no presentation for me . Uh , first we have a prototype presentation byG_ and G_ .User Interface: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Project Manager:{vocalsound} Afterwards some uhUser Interface: Yo .Marketing: J_ and J_ . {vocalsound}ProjectManager: eval eval evaluIndustrial Designer: Evaluation .Project Manager: evaluationUser Interface:Evaluation criteria .Marketing: Evaluation .Project Manager: s {vocalsound} sorry .Industrial Designer:{vocalsound}Project Manager: Uh evaluation crit criteria . Uh , in combination with the finance I um{vocalsound} uh I received uh a an uh an Excel uh fileUser Interface: {vocalsound}Marketing: Hmm.Project Manager: which we have to fill in later on . Um , you see . Uh , and then we must see uh if we uhstay under the twelve and a half Euro .Marketing: Hmm . Interesting . Ah , okay .Project Manager: So ,that's uh that's a bigUser Interface: {vocalsound} Oops .Marketing: {vocalsound} Cool .{vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm . That's gonna be t problem .Project Manager: l so let's uhwait it uh umMarketing: {vocalsound} {vocalsound} {vocalsound}Project Manager: we have we havemust {disfmarker} uh ,User Interface: Some creative uh {disfmarker}Project Manager: we must have uhsome time for that uh because it will be uh {disfmarker} yeah , quite a lot of mathematics .UserInterface: Oh . Yeah .Project Manager: And after that , uh uh an evaluation of uh the process how we uhhow we have done it here with the SMARTboard , with the with our laptops , with the {disfmarker} all uhall this . And uh afterwards , uh we closing . Once again , forty minutes , so uh let's start .User Interface:Ok okay .Project Manager: I would g give the word to um G_ and G_ for the prototype presentation .UserInterface: Shall I give a short introduction and then uh {disfmarker}Industrial Designer: Yeah , well sure.Marketing: J_ and J_ .Project Manager: J_ and J_ .User Interface: Okay . {vocalsound} J_ and J_ , okay.Marketing: Jane and Jane .Project Manager: {vocalsound}Marketing: 'Kay guys , take it away .UserInterface: Take it away .Industrial Designer: Hi .Project Manager: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}Marketing:{vocalsound}User Interface: Um , this was our first concept . We decided to use a single touch-screen .So , we've worked out this concepts , how to how to hold it , where to put the buttons and and stuff . Andum , well , we began with uh with a form of shape , that is uh is easy to hold w in one hand , left or righthanded .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}User Interface: So , we made i it a little bit less thick and uh ithas some ar artistic meaning . No ? This uh isn't nothing . {vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound}ProjectManager: {vocalsound}User Interface: Idea maybe uh is better .Project Manager: {vocalsound}UserInterface: Um well , during the meeting I showed you the concept of uh placing the buttons on top ,usable with your thumb , and uh the menu structure , uh if necessary , with your other hand , so it's justgonna hold it easily .Project Manager: {vocalsound}User Interface: And it has to be acce accessible withyour uh other hand too , of course .Project Manager: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}User Interface: So webegan uh working out a concept .Industrial Designer: Yeah , uh well , and as you saw , we would justhave the basic remote with the panel L_C_D_ uh screen . Well , these would be the main buttons , h youcould uh change them later on in your own profile if you want to . But , well it's standard they will bedelivered with this kind of uh set-up . We have the {gap} more advanced menu uh setting right here .We have the sub-menus and stu stuff . We made a top {disfmarker} oh , or a front view . Just so like youwanna uh back view . As you can see , this uh {disfmarker} there , there are uh two uh weird bumps in it.Marketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} This is for uhthe added uh effect of uh well uh y youth and dynamic . And uh this is for the artistic effect .ProjectManager: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Well , what we figured is uh we'll show you a picture {gap}later on {gap} you have more b a better idea after that . But , idea is for to stay in balance with thesetwo uh {disfmarker} with these two .Marketing: Hmm .Industrial Designer: And so when you put it onthe table , it will just {gap} lay down . It won't {vocalsound} uh roll around or stuff . But it will lie morein your hand like an old telephone maybe , or like these old uh phones .Project Manager: Mm .IndustrialDesigner: Y you you may get the idea . So thi this is about uh how we figured it should be . The s panel"} {"doc_id":"doc_82","qid":"","text":"Lynne Neagle AM: Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the Children, Young People and Educationcommittee this morning. We've received apologies for absence from Siân Gwenllian and there is nosubstitute this morning. Can I ask if Members have got any declarations of interest they'd like to make,please? No? Okay. Thank you. Item 2 this morning, then, is a further session on our follow-up on our'Mind over matter' report. I'm very pleased to welcome Carol Shillabeer, who is chief executive of PowysTeaching Health Board, and who manages the Together for Children and Young People programme.Thank you very much for attending, and thank you for the written update that you provided in advance tothe committee. We've got a lot of ground that we want to cover this morning, so if it's okay we'll gostraight into questions. If I can just start and ask you if you're satisfied with the progress that's beenmade since the programme was established in 2015.Carol Shillabeer: Thank you very much for thatquestion, Chair. I've got to say 'yes', in many regards. So, the key focus of the programme in the earlystages was about improving access to specialist child and adolescent mental health services. Wedeveloped the windscreen model—or we lifted the windscreen model. Other models that are very similarhave been talked about as well, and our big focus was on ensuring that we could make immediateprogress around access to specialist CAMHS. It's some years ago now since this committee did theoriginal report, and obviously Healthcare Inspectorate Wales and the Wales Audit Office had done reportsin the past, and I think there was a need for a programme that could focus on action. You'll see in thewritten update that we covered quite a large number of areas, and so therefore had to make aprioritisation. The prioritisation was at the specialist CAMHS end. We have provided the committee with ared, amber or green rating of where we feel that we were, and that was just before submission of theevidence. Overall I would say we have made progress. I recognise you recognise that in your 'Mind overmatter' report, and that is pleasing. What I would say, though, is that there's a still a lot to be done.Certainly over the last nine months or so, we've seen a real momentum around the whole-schoolapproach work, which we're not actually leading now as a programme, although we facilitated theworkshop held in September. But that's got a real momentum, and the absolute priority now is the earlyhelp and enhanced support part of the work moving forward, and I'm sure we will come on to that inmore detail. But we know there is more community workforce in specialist CAMHS, we know we're seeingchildren in a shorter time frame, and we know we're accepting more referrals, so our indicators are tellingus we are making progress.Lynne Neagle AM: Thank you. And you referred to the work on thewhole-school approach, which is very welcome, and I recognise that the programme has been involved indriving that as well. But I'm sure you'll also recognise the emphasis that the committee has placed on thisbeing a whole-system approach to children and young people's mental health, and we feel very stronglythat if any of the areas get out of balance, then it will jeopardise the progress in other parts of theprogramme. Are there any particular areas where you feel you haven't made enough progress that you'dlike to draw the committee's attention to?Carol Shillabeer: This is maybe about what the programme'sdone, but really around the broader sense as well. I'm going to be very straight and say we should havemade more progress on psychological therapies. I'm disappointed that we haven't. I'm assured thatwe've got capacity in place now and the drive in place to get the Matrics Cymru framework developed forchildren and young people. I've had discussions with the national psychological therapies committee, whohave owned this, and we're working together more on this area. That's not to say for one minute thathealth boards and local areas haven't been working on psychological therapy service provision andchanging the models, but that is an area we should have made, I think, earlier progress on. There's beena general reflection from myself and the Together for Children and Young People programme board overthe phase of the programme. I think we started very strongly; I think we probably had a bit of a lull inthe middle, if I'm truthful about that—we had a change of personnel, and we really gathered amomentum over the last year or 18 months, and that has helped to push us from a focus on specialistCAMHS into that whole-school approach. But, if I could just agree with your comments about the wholesystem, it has to be the whole system and that's why the real focus now on early help and enhanced"} {"doc_id":"doc_83","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: Okay Right {vocalsound} Um well this is the kick-off meeting for our our project . Um{vocalsound} and um this is just what we're gonna be doing over the next twenty five minutes . Um sofirst of all , just to kind of make sure that we all know each other ,Marketing: Mm-hmm .Project Manager:I'm Laura and I'm the project manager . {vocalsound} Do you want to introduce yourself again?Marketing: Great .Industrial Designer: Hi , I'm David and I'm supposed to be an industrial designer.Project Manager: Okay .Marketing: And I'm Andrew and I'm uh our marketingUser Interface: Um I'mCraig and I'm User Interface .Marketing: expert .Project Manager: Great . Okay . {vocalsound} Um sowe're designing a new remote control and um {disfmarker} Oh I have to record who's here actually . Sothat's David , Andrew and Craig , isn't it ? And you all arrived on time . Um yeah so des uh {vocalsound}design a new remote control . Um , as you can see it's supposed to be original , trendy and user friendly .Um so that's kind of our our brief , as it were . Um and so there are three different stages to the design .Um I'm not really sure what what you guys have already received um in your emails . What did you get?Industrial Designer: Um , I just got the project announcement about what the project is {vocalsound}.Project Manager: Mm-hmm .Industrial Designer: Designing a remote control .Marketing: Mm-hmm.Industrial Designer: That's about it , didn't get anything else .Marketing: Mm-hmm . Yeah , that's that'sit .Project Manager: Is that what everybody got ?Industrial Designer: Did you get the same thing ?UserInterface: Yeah .Project Manager: Okay .Marketing: Yeah .Project Manager: Um . So we're gonna havelike individual work and then a meeting about it . And repeat that process three times . Um and at thispoint we get try out the whiteboard over there . Um . {vocalsound} So uh you get to draw your favouriteanimal and sum up your favourite characteristics of it . So who would like to go first ?Marketing: I will go. That's fine .Project Manager: Very good . {vocalsound}Marketing: Alright . So {disfmarker}{vocalsound} {vocalsound} This one here , right ?Project Manager: Mm-hmm .Marketing: Okay . Verynice . Alright . My favourite animal is like {disfmarker} {vocalsound} {vocalsound} A beagle .ProjectManager: {vocalsound}Marketing: Um charac favourite characteristics of it ? Is that right ?ProjectManager: Yeah . Yeah .Marketing: Uh , right , well basically um high priority for any animal for me is thatthey be willing to take a lot of physical affection from their family . And , yeah that they have lots ofpersonality and uh be fit and in robust good health .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Marketing: So thisis blue . Blue beagle . My family's beagle .Project Manager: Right .Marketing: {vocalsound}ProjectManager: Lovely . {vocalsound}User Interface: {gap} Well , my favourite animal would be a monkey.Project Manager: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}User Interface: {vocalsound} Thenthey're small cute and furry , and uh when planet of the apes becomes real , {vocalsound} I'm gonna beup there with them .Marketing: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Cool .Project Manager: Right .UserInterface: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: There's too much gear . {vocalsound}ProjectManager: You can take as long over this as you like , because we haven't got an awful lot to discuss.Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Project Manager: Ok oh we do we doUser Interface:{vocalsound}Project Manager: Don't feel like you're in a rush , anyway .Industrial Designer: Okay.Marketing: I coulda told you a whole lot more about beagles .Project Manager: Ach {gap} why not{disfmarker}Marketing: Boy , let me tell you . {vocalsound}Project Manager: We might have to get youup again then .User Interface: {vocalsound}Project Manager: I don't know what mine is . I'm gonna haveto think on the spot now .Marketing: Impressionist .Project Manager: {vocalsound}User Interface:{vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Can't draw . {vocalsound}User Interface: {vocalsound}IndustrialDesigner: Um .Project Manager: Is that a whale ? {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Yeah . Um , wellanyway , I don't know , it's just the first animal I can think off the top of my head . Um . Yes . Big reasonis 'cause I'm allergic to most animals . Allergic to animal fur ,Project Manager: Ah .Industrial Designer: soum fish was a natural choice . Um , yeah , and I kind of like whales . They come in and go {vocalsound}eat everything in sight . {vocalsound}User Interface: {vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound}IndustrialDesigner: And they're quite harmless and mild and interesting .Marketing: {vocalsound} Alright . Mm.Project Manager: Okay . God , I still don't know what I'm gonna write about . Um .Marketing: Superb"} {"doc_id":"doc_84","qid":"","text":"Lynne Neagle AM: Good morning, everyone. Welcome to the Children, Young People and EducationCommittee this morning. I've received no apologies for absence. Can I ask Members if there are anydeclarations of interest, please? No. Okay, thank you. Item 2 this morning is our scrutiny session onEstyn's annual report 2018-19. I'm very pleased to welcome Meilyr Rowlands, Her Majesty's ChiefInspector, Estyn; Jassa Scott, strategic director at Estyn; and Claire Morgan, strategic director at Estyn.Thank you all for attending. We're looking forward to hearing what you've got to say. We'll go straightinto questions from Suzy Davies.Suzy Davies AM: Bore da. Good morning, everybody. Thank you for thepapers upfront, in which you say that the most striking feature of the education system, looking forward,of course is the curriculum and the change that that's bringing. How can we be sure that, during thisperiod of change, standards don't slip? And also, from the point of view of scrutiny, will we be back in asituation where we're being told, 'You can't compare one set of results against the previous year's results,because of the nature of the change'?Meilyr Rowlands: Bore da, bawb. Thank you for the invitation tocome here. I think that's a good question. I think any kind of major educational reform has got risksattached to it, particularly if those changes were made too quickly. I think this process of reform hasbeen going on in the background for a few years now, so I think there is a track record of standards andprovision not slipping. We've seen small incremental improvements. So, overall, I think we can be fairlyconfident that standards won't slip during this period of preparation.Suzy Davies AM: Can I just ask: isthat based on your evidence around primary schools, where the sort of ethos that we've seen in thecurriculum has been already articulated through the foundation phase?Meilyr Rowlands: The track recordI'm talking about is across the board, so it's very difficult to think of anything that's actually got worseover the last three or four years, so it's difficult to say that standards of provision is slipping. It might notbe improving as quickly as we would like, but the purpose of major curriculum and, more generally,educational reform is to make sure that we do get a more substantial sort of improvement. I think weshould congratulate the profession for the work they've been doing. A large number of schools andteachers and leaders have been part of preparing the new curriculum and all the associated work, as wellas doing the day job. I think their commitment and their engagement with curriculum reform, andengagement with wider education reform, is to be congratulated. So, I think going forward, we mustmake sure that that is continued; that this process that's called co-construction—engaging with theprofession, making sure that they're behind all the changes—continues. I think that's what's going tomake sure that we don't see any slippage.Suzy Davies AM: Okay, and on that point of comparing year onyear, we will be able to make those comparisons legitimately then?Meilyr Rowlands: Yes, certainly, interms of our inspection outcomes and our inspection work, yes.Suzy Davies AM: Okay. That's great,thank you. Can I just ask you then about the difference in preparedness between primary and secondaryschools, which I've just mentioned previously, and also what your views are on the impact of funding forschools on that as well? Because we're in a situation where a number of primary schools have got surplusfunds, sometimes that's because of end of year additional funds just being magicked up, but there is aserious worry that so many secondary schools are in deficit and that, overall, secondary schools are indeficit. Is there a correlation between those two positions, that secondary schools may be less ready forthis than primary schools?Meilyr Rowlands: I think it's probably true to say that secondary schools have agreater challenge than primary schools generally in terms of preparedness for the new curriculum. I thinkthat's why we welcomed the phasing in of the new curriculum. With any sort of education reform, you'vegot that danger of people wanting to see change as soon as possible on the one hand, and on the otherhand you need time to pilot things, to make sure that people have the right professional learning andmake sure that there's opportunity for evaluation and thinking and so forth. So, we've got to get thatbalance right.Suzy Davies AM: Sorry, that could be difficult to do if a school doesn't have money to createthat space, couldn't it?Meilyr Rowlands: Yes. You raised two issues, I think. One, about the differencebetween primary and secondary: I think what I'm saying there is I think the fact that the new curriculumis going to be brought in for all the years in primary, but it's going to be phased in year by year for"} {"doc_id":"doc_85","qid":"","text":"Professor B: Is it starting now ?PhD E: Yep .Professor B: So what {disfmarker} what {disfmarker} from{disfmarker} what {disfmarker}Grad A: Hello ?Professor B: Whatever we say from now on , it can beheld against us , right ?PhD E: That 's right .Professor B: and uhGrad A: It 's your right to remain silent.Professor B: Yeah . So I {disfmarker} I {disfmarker} the {disfmarker} the problem is that I actuallydon't know how th these held meetings are held , if they are very informal and sort of just people are saywhat 's going onPhD E: Yeah .Professor B: andPhD E: Yeah , that 's usually what we do .Professor B: OK.PhD E: We just sorta go around and people say what 's going on , what 's the latest uh{disfmarker}Professor B: Yeah . OK . So I guess that what may be a {disfmarker} reasonable is if I uhfirst make a report on what 's happening in Aurora in general , at least what from my perspective .PhD E:Yeah . That would be great .Professor B: And {disfmarker} and uh so , I {disfmarker} I think thatCarmen and Stephane reported on uh Amsterdam meeting ,PhD D: Uh oProfessor B: which was kind ofinteresting because it was for the first time we realized we are not friends really , but we are competitors. Cuz until then it was sort of like everything was like wonderful and {disfmarker}PhD E: Yeah . Itseemed like there were still some issues ,Professor B: Yeah .PhD E: right ? that they were trying todecide ?Professor B: There is a plenty of {disfmarker} there 're plenty of issues .PhD E: Like the voiceactivity detector ,Professor B: Well and what happened was that they realized that if two leadingproposals , which was French Telecom Alcatel , and us both had uh voice activity detector . And I said \"well big surprise , I mean we could have told you that {pause} n n n four months ago , except we didn'tbecause nobody else was bringing it up \" .PhD E: Right .Professor B: Obviously French Telecom didn'tvolunteer this information either , cuz we were working on {disfmarker} mainly on voice activity detectorfor past uh several monthsPhD E: Right .Professor B: because that 's buying us the most uh thing . Andeverybody said \" Well but this is not fair . We didn't know that . \" And of course uh the {disfmarker} it 'snot working on features really . And be I agreed .PhD E: Right .Professor B: I said \" well yeah , you areabsolutely right , I mean if I wish that you provided better end point at speech because uh {disfmarker}or at least that if we could modify the recognizer , uh to account for these long silences , becauseotherwise uh that {disfmarker} that {disfmarker} th that wasn't a correct thing . \" And so then ev eveverybody else says \" well we should {disfmarker} we need to do a new eval evaluation without voiceactivity detector , or we have to do something about it \" .PhD E: Right .Professor B: And in principle I{disfmarker} uh I {disfmarker} we agreed .PhD E: Mm - hmm .Professor B: We said uh \" yeah \" .Because uh {disfmarker} but in that case , uh we would like to change the uh {disfmarker} the algorithmbecause uh if we are working on different data , we probably will use a different set of tricks .PhD E:Right .Professor B: But unfortunately nobody ever officially can somehow acknowledge that this can bedone , because French Telecom was saying \" no , no , no , now everybody has access to our code , soeverybody is going to copy what we did . \" Yeah well our argument was everybody ha has access to ourcode , and everybody always had access to our code . We never uh {disfmarker} uh denied that . Wethought that people are honest , that if you copy something and if it is protected {disfmarker} protectedby patent then you negotiate , or something ,PhD E: Yeah . Right .Professor B: right ? I mean , if you findour technique useful , we are very happy .PhD E: Right .Professor B: But {disfmarker} And FrenchTelecom was saying \" no , no , no ,PhD E: Mm - hmm .Professor B: there is a lot of little tricks which uhsort of uh cannot be protected and you guys will take them , \" which probably is also true . I mean , youknow , it might be that people will take uh uh th the algorithms apart and use the blocks from that . But Isomehow think that it wouldn't be so bad , as long as people are happy abou uh uh uh honest about it.PhD E: Yeah .Professor B: And I think they have to be honest in the long run , because winning proposalagain {disfmarker} uh what will be available th is {disfmarker} will be a code . So the uh {disfmarker}the people can go to code and say \" well listen this is what you stole from me \"PhD E: Mm - hmm.Professor B: you know ?PhD E: Right .Professor B: \" so let 's deal with that \" .PhD E: Right .Professor B:So I don't see the problem . The biggest problem of course is that f that Alcatel French Telecom cl claims\" well we fulfilled the conditions . We are the best . Uh . We are the standard . \" And e and other people"} {"doc_id":"doc_86","qid":"","text":"Grad F: OK .PhD C: Adam , what is the mike that , uh , Jeremy 's wearing ? Grad F: It 's the ear - plugmike .Postdoc A: Ear - plug .PhD E: That 's good .PhD C: Is that a wireless , or {disfmarker} ? Oh .GradF: No .Grad G: It 's wired .Professor B: Oh !Postdoc A: Is that {disfmarker} Does that mean you can'thear anything during the meeting ?Grad D: It 's old - school .Grad F: Huh ? What ? Huh ?Professor B:Should we , uh , close the door , maybe ?Grad F: It {disfmarker} it 's a fairly good mike , actually.Professor B: So it 's {disfmarker} Yeah . Huh .Grad F: Well , I shouldn't say it 's a good mike . All I reallyknow is that the signal level is OK . I don't know if it 's a {disfmarker} the quality .Professor B: Well , that's aGrad F: Ugh ! So I didn't send out agenda items because until five minutes ago we only had oneagenda item and now we have two . So . {vocalsound} And , uh .Professor B: OK . So , just to repeat thething bef that we said last week , it was there 's this suggestion of alternating weeks on {vocalsound}more , uh , automatic speech recognition related or not ? Was that sort of {pause} the division ?Grad F:Right .Professor B: So which week are we in ?Grad F: Well {disfmarker} We haven't really started , but Ithought we more {disfmarker} we more or less did Meeting Recorder stuff last week , so I thought wecould do , uh {disfmarker}Professor B: I thought we had a thing about speech recognition last week too.PhD C: Yeah .Grad F: But I figure also if they 're short agenda items , we could also do a little bit of each.Professor B: Yeah .Grad F: So . I seem to be having difficulty getting this adjusted . Here we go.Professor B: OK .Grad F: So , uh , as most of you should know , I did send out the consent form thingiesand , uh , so far no one has made any {disfmarker} Ach ! {comment} {comment} any comments onthem . So , no on no one has bleeped out anything .Professor B: Um . Yeah .Grad F: So . I don't expectanyone to . But .Professor B: Um . {vocalsound} So , w what follows ? At some point y you go aroundand get people to sign something ?Grad F: No . We had spoken w about this beforeProfessor B: Yeah ,but I 've forgotten .Grad F: and we had decided that they have {disfmarker} they only needed to signonce . And the agreement that they already signed simply said that we would give them an opportunity .So as long as we do that , we 're covered .Professor B: And how long of an opportunity did you tell them?Grad F: Uh , July fifteenth .Professor B: July fifteenth . Oh , so they have a plenty of time , and yGrad F:Yep .Professor B: Given that it 's that long , um , um {disfmarker} Why was that date chosen ? You justfelt you wanted to {disfmarker} ?Grad F: Jane told me July fifteenth . So , that 's what I set it .Postdoc A:Oh . I just meant that that was {pause} the release date that you had on the {pause} data .Professor B:Oh , OK .Grad F: Oh . I {disfmarker} I didn't understand that there was something specific .Postdoc A: I ,uh {disfmarker} I thought {disfmarker}Grad F: You {disfmarker} y you had {disfmarker}Professor B: Idon't {disfmarker}Grad F: I had heard July fifteenth , so that 's what I put .Postdoc A: Mm - hmm.Professor B: No , the only {disfmarker} th the only {pause} mention I recall about that was just thatJuly fifteenth or so is when {vocalsound} this meeting starts .Grad F: So .Postdoc A: That 's right . That's why .Professor B: Oh , I see .Postdoc A: You said you wanted it to be available then .Professor B: OK.Postdoc A: I didn't mean it to be the hard deadline .Professor B: Right .Postdoc A: It 's fine with me if itis , or we cou But I thought it might be good to remind people two weeks prior to thatProfessor B:wPostdoc A: in case , uh {disfmarker} you know , \" by the way {pause} this is your last {disfmarker}\"Professor B: Right .Postdoc A: Uh . Yeah .Professor B: We probably should have talked about it , cuz ibecause if we wanna be able to give it to people July fifteenth , if somebody 's gonna come back and say\" OK , I don't want this and this and this used \" , uh , clearly we need some time to respond to that .Right ?Grad F: Yeah . As I said , we {disfmarker} I just got one dateProfessor B: Yeah .PhD H: Damn!Grad F: and that 's the one I used .Professor B: Yeah .Grad F: So . But I can send a follow - up . I mean ,it 's almost all us . I mean the people who are in the meeti this meeting was , uh , these {disfmarker} themeetings that {disfmarker} in {disfmarker} are in set one .PhD C: Was my {disfmarker} was myresponse OK ?Postdoc A: That 's right .PhD C: I just wrote you {disfmarker} replied to the email sayingthey 're all fine .Grad F: Right . I mean , that 's fine .PhD C: OK , good .Grad F: I {disfmarker} we don't{disfmarker} My understanding of what we {pause} had agreed upon when we had spoken about thismonths ago was that , uh , we don't actually need a reply .PhD C: That makes it easy .Grad F: We just"} {"doc_id":"doc_87","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: Hello again .User Interface: Hello .Industrial Designer: Hi . {vocalsound}Marketing:Hey , Project Manager .Project Manager: {vocalsound}User Interface: Um , Project Manager , I havesomething to tell you .Project Manager: Mm yeah .User Interface: I have a little problems with my laptop.Project Manager: Okay .User Interface: And uh s s s so I had a little less time to complete .ProjectManager: Okay .User Interface: No , a little problem , uh {vocalsound} big problem . I just thought{disfmarker}Marketing: What was it , problem ?User Interface: Um , it didn't work anymore .{vocalsound}Marketing: The laptop ?User Interface: The entire Windows uh {disfmarker}Marketing: Ithang {disfmarker} hung .User Interface: It it hung . {vocalsound}Project Manager:{vocalsound}Marketing: Ha-ha . Oh . Project Manager .Project Manager: {vocalsound} Yes .{vocalsound} Yes .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Marketing: You're our Project Manager .ProjectManager: {vocalsound} Your project manager . {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}UserInterface: {vocalsound}Project Manager: Welcome to the conceptual design meetingIndustrial Designer:{vocalsound} {vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager: for Real Reaction .Marketing:{vocalsound}Project Manager: Uh , hello again . Uh it's uh the same as the last time . Uh uh , also thistime there will be uh three presentations .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Project Manager: And we ummust uh reach a decision on uh the remote control concepts . Um uh , and at the end , uh I uh , when Ifinish it off I have some uh input from uh a master class I uh {vocalsound} visited . {vocalsound} {gap}information . {vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}User Interface:During lunch , yeah .Marketing: Master .User Interface: He's the master , yeah . {vocalsound}{vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Project Manager: The thethe the the concepts on uh {disfmarker} we uh {disfmarker} where we uh must reach a decision on . Umuh , our {disfmarker} from uh are of two sorts .Marketing: Master of {disfmarker}Project Manager:Components concepts and user interface concepts . Uh , the first one is uh really about the the the thethe total package uh with uh {disfmarker} Well , we have decided to do a {disfmarker} do the uh{disfmarker} with a touch-screen that must be a case around it so uh it won't be uh uh as breakable . Uhhow how about the energy ? Can you uh can you reload it or uh just have batteries which you mustexchange ? Uh , the user interface concept . Uh , with the type and uh the the supplements . So uh whereto put what button . {vocalsound} And uh uh I would say uh {disfmarker} Jans , can you begin?Industrial Designer: Yeah , sure .Project Manager: Okay .Marketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager: Atthe end , uh {disfmarker} I will take notes uh and at the end of the minutes uh will uh be at the sharedfolder .Industrial Designer: Okay . Uh , let me see . I think it's this one . Ha .User Interface: Wow.Industrial Designer: Right . Uh , well , I'll be talking about the components .Marketing:{vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Uh , what I did was I reviewed previously used items uh by uh two twouh different uh age groups .Project Manager: Mm-hmm .Industrial Designer: Uh below forty five andabove . And uh I just uh watch what the differences are and I checked uh , well , what what d do we want, and {gap} how can we uh d aim a at uh the target group . Well uh what I found was that a senior um{disfmarker}Project Manager: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} senior citizens uh{disfmarker} {vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound} I'm sorry . {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Ye Ah ,it's {vocalsound} it's okay .Marketing: Okay . Go on . {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Uh {disfmarker}{vocalsound} They , well , they like more the {disfmarker} they like the traditional materials , like woodand and such more .Marketing: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Wood and chrome .Project Manager:{vocalsound}Industrial Designer: And uh uh they like uh straightforward shapes . Um , uh they they theythey like luxurious uh styles , where whereas the young and dynamic , they like a more uh soft materials. Think of the Teletubbies , for instance .Project Manager: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Uh uh , softand fluffy and colourful and {disfmarker}Marketing: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Well uh , shapesare curved and round .Marketing: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Y y you get {vocalsound} the picture. And uh they like sports and gaming , and that gives them uh the vitality . Uh , so w well uh , firsProjectManager: One one little question .Industrial Designer: Yes .Project Manager: Um about the the material"} {"doc_id":"doc_88","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: Okay we all all set ? Right . Well this is the uh final detailed design meeting . Um we'regonna discuss the look and feel design , the user interface design , and we're gonna evaluate the product. And the end result of this meeting has to be a decision on the details of this remote control , likeabsolute final decision , um and then I'm gonna have to specify the final design in the final report . So umjust from from last time to recap , we said we were gonna have a snowman shaped remote control withno L_C_D_ display , no need for talk-back , it was hopefully gonna be kinetic power and battery uh withrubber buttons , maybe backlighting the buttons with some internal L_E_D_s to shine through the casing, um hopefully a jog-dial , and incorporating the slogan somewhere as well . Anything I've missed?Industrial Designer: No .Project Manager: Okay um so uh if you want to present your prototype goahead .User Interface: Uh-oh . This is it ? {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Ninja Homer , made in Japan. {vocalsound}User Interface: Um , there are a few changes we've made .Project Manager: Okay .UserInterface: Um , well look at the expense sheet , and uh it turned to be quite a lot expensive to have openup and have lots of buttons and stuff inside ,Project Manager: Mm . Mm-hmm .User Interface: so insteadwe've um {disfmarker} this is gonna be an L_C_D_ screen , um just a a very very basic one , very smallum with access to the menu through the the scroll wheel and uh confirm um button .Marketing: Mm 'kay.User Interface: Uh , apart from that , it's just pretty much the same as we discussed last time .IndustrialDesigner: And there isn't uh d it doesn't open up to the advanced functions ? the advanced functions arestill hidden from you , but they're hidden in the sense that um they're not in use .Marketing: Where arethey ?Industrial Designer: Um they're in the L_C_D_ panel and the jog-dial ?Marketing: Ah , right.Industrial Designer: Okay 'cause {disfmarker}Project Manager: So w what kind of thing uh is gonna be{disfmarker}Marketing: Great .User Interface: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: The L_C_D_ panel justdisplays um functionally what you're doing . If you're using an advanced function right , like um cbrightness , contrast , whatever , it will just say {disfmarker}Marketing: Right . Okay .IndustrialDesigner: You know it's like it only has four columns , it's a very simple L_C_D_ like , whereas many{disfmarker} the minimum amount we need that the user will automatically know like this is brightnessor this is contrast .Marketing: Right .Project Manager: Mm-hmm . Okay cool .Marketing: Right , 'kay.Industrial Designer: It might even be one , a bit more complex L_C_D_ panel with pictures like maybethe sun or the , you know , the the symbols of the various functions .Marketing: OkayProject Manager:Oh right okay .Marketing: Mm-hmm , and what is this here ?Project Manager: Cool .Industrial Designer:That's a number pad .Marketing: Okay so the number pad is {disfmarker} 'Kay , great .Project Manager:Where are we gonna have the slogan ?Industrial Designer: Um they're al along this {disfmarker}UserInterface: You know , just like right inside there .Industrial Designer: Yeah .Project Manager: Okay cool.Industrial Designer: You have this space here , and then you have this thing on the side as well , or atthe bottom .Project Manager: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: 'Cause slogans are usually quite small ,right ,Project Manager: Okay .Industrial Designer: they're not like hugeMarketing: Mm .IndustrialDesigner: so they're sMarketing: Yep .Industrial Designer: Say a button's aboutProject Manager: Okay.Marketing: Looks good .Industrial Designer: say a button's about this size , right , so you would stillhave plenty of space for a slogan , say even for that .Marketing: Yep . {vocalsound} Mm-hmm .ProjectManager: So if this isn't to scale , what kind of dimensions are you thinking about here ?User Interface:{vocalsound} Well {vocalsound} we want the other buttons to be big enough to push easily with afingerProject Manager: Mm-hmm .User Interface: so we reckon maybe that'll be about the same size asthe palm of your hand . {gap}Marketing: Okay .Industrial Designer: Yep so that would be about acentimetre for a button , so one two three four centimetres . Plus maybe half o fiveMarketing: Mm-hmm.Industrial Designer: six seven eight ,Marketing: About nine in total .Project Manager: Six , seven , eight, nine , ten .Industrial Designer: about yeah nine total .Project Manager: So we're talking about tencentimetres .Marketing: That sounds good . Yeah .Project Manager: That would be good . So tencentimetres in height .Marketing: Yep .Industrial Designer: Nine , ten . Yep .Project Manager: Okay um{vocalsound} .Marketing: That'd be good , in fact a pen is about ten centimetres usually , so that would"} {"doc_id":"doc_89","qid":"","text":"Professor D: OK . So , uh You can fill those out , uh {pause} after , actually , so So , I got , uh {pause}these results from , uh , Stephane . Also , um , I think that , uh {pause} um {pause} we might hear latertoday , about other results . I think s that , uh , there were some other very good results that we 'regonna wanna compare to . But , {vocalsound} r our results from other {disfmarker} other places , yeah.PhD A: I I 'm sorry ? I didn'tProfessor D: Um , I got this from youPhD A: Yeah .Professor D: and then Isent a note to Sunil about the {disfmarker} cuz he has been running some other systemsPhD A: Mm -hmm .Professor D: other than the {disfmarker} the ICSI OGI one .PhD A: Oh yeah .Professor D: So{pause} um , I wan wanna {disfmarker} wanna see what that is . But , uh , you know , so we 'll see whatit is comparatively later . But {pause} it looks like , umPhD A: M yeah .Professor D: You know most ofthe time , even {disfmarker} I mean even though it 's true that the overall number for Danish{disfmarker} we didn't improve it If you look at it individually , what it really says is that there 's , um ,uh Looks like out of the six cases , between the different kinds of , uh , matching conditions {pause} outof the six cases , there 's basically , um , a couple where it stays about the same , uh , three where itgets better , and one where it gets worse .PhD A: Yeah .Professor D: Uh , go ahead .PhD A: Y Actually ,uh , um , for the Danish , there 's still some kind of mystery because , um , um , when we use thestraight features , we are not able to get these nice number with the ICSI OGI one , I mean . We don'thave this ninety - three seventy - eight , we have eightPhD E: Eighty - nine forty - four .PhD A: yeah . Uh, so , uh , that 's probably something wrong with the features that we get from OGI . Uh , and Sunil isworking on {disfmarker} on trying to {disfmarker} to check everything .Professor D: Oh , and{disfmarker} and we have a little time on that {disfmarker} and {disfmarker} actually soPhD A: Hmm?Professor D: We have a little bit of time on that , actually .PhD A: Yeah .Professor D: We have a day orso , so When {disfmarker} when {disfmarker} when do you folks leave ?PhD A: Uh , Sunday .ProfessorD: Sunday ? So So , uh Yeah , until Saturday midnight , or something , we have W we {disfmarker} wehave time , yeah . Well , that would be good . That 'd be good .PhD A: Yeah .Professor D: Yeah . Uh , and, you know , i u when whenever anybody figures it out they should also , for sure , email Hynek becauseHynek will be over there {vocalsound} telling people {vocalsound} what we did , so he should know .PhDA: Mmm . Yeah .Professor D: Good , OK . So , um So , we 'll {disfmarker} we 'll hold off on that a little bit. I mean , even with these results as they are , it 's {disfmarker} it 's {disfmarker} it 's really not thatbad . But {disfmarker} but , uh , um And it looks like the overall result as they are now , even without ,you know , any {disfmarker} any bugs being fixed is that , uh , on the {disfmarker} the other tasks , wehad this average of , uh , forty uh {disfmarker} nine percent , or so , improvement . And here we havesomewhat better than that than the Danish , and somewhat worse than that on the German , but I mean, it sounds like , uh , one way or another , the methods that we 're doing can reduce the error rate from{disfmarker} from mel ceptrum {pause} down by , you know {pause} a fourth of them to , uh , a half ofthem . Somewhere in there , depending on the {pause} exact case . So So that 's good . I mean , I thinkthat , uh , one of the things that Hynek was talking about was understanding what was in the other reallygood proposals and {disfmarker} and trying to see if what should ultimately be proposed is some , uh ,combination of things . Um , if , uh {disfmarker} Cuz there 's things that they are doing {pause} therethat we certainly are not doing . And there 's things that we 're doing that {pause} they 're not doing .And {disfmarker} and they all seem like good things .PhD A: Yeah .Professor D: SoPhD E: Mmm , yeah.PhD C: How much {disfmarker} how much better was the best system than ours ?Professor D: So Well ,we don't know yet .PhD C: Mmm .Professor D: Uh , I mean , first place , there 's still this thing to{disfmarker} to work out , and second place {disfmarker} second thing is that the only results that wehave so far from before were really development set results .PhD C: Oh , OK .Professor D: So , I think inthis community that 's of interest . It 's not like everything is being pinned on the evaluation set . But ,um , for the development set , our best result was a little bit short of fifty percent . And the best result ofany system was about fifty - four , where these numbers are the , uh , relative , uh , reduction in , uh ,word error rate .PhD C: Oh , OK .Professor D: And , um , the other systems were , uh , somewhat lower"} {"doc_id":"doc_90","qid":"","text":"User Interface: Okay .Project Manager: So I see all everybody's here , 'kay .Marketing: Mm-hmm.Industrial Designer: Yep .Project Manager: And we can start meeting .User Interface: Okay{vocalsound} .Marketing: What's the agenda for this meeting ?Project Manager: The {disfmarker} I willuh present here agenda with with with with slides to you .Marketing: Okay .Project Manager: Um as youcan see here .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}User Interface: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Perfect.Project Manager: So first uh just to mention I will take notes uh of this meetingMarketing: Mm-hmm.Project Manager: and uh I will try to work them out and give them to you . I've also made notes of theprevious meeting and um I was about to send them you but {vocalsound} then uh I had to go to this uhmeeting so you will get them too uhMarketing: Mm-hmm .User Interface: Next .Project Manager: Um.Industrial Designer: So y you are the secretary also .Project Manager: Yes . Indeed .Industrial Designer:Right ? Okay .Project Manager: Then I hope you all have uh worked out {vocalsound} some some uh{vocalsound} some some presentations about uh about well you the the task given to you in the previousmeeting .Industrial Designer: Perfectly yeah yeah of course uh-huh .User Interface: {gap}ProjectManager: Um . W We will uh in a minute we will uh {vocalsound} start with them . Um , we will see inwhich order we will handle them of . Um then I will uh bring in some some some new requirements I I gotuh from the uh account manager , I try to work them out , they were quite abstract , and we can havemaybe have com some discussion about it . Uh Um about the functionsMarketing: Mm-hmm .ProjectManager: and {disfmarker} Well in this meeting we should really {vocalsound} try to reach a decisionabout the target group and the functionality of the {disfmarker}Marketing: Mm .Industrial Designer: Youmean the social target group who we wants to target ?Project Manager: Yes I mean well yes w who arewe going to uh to well to sell this ,Marketing: Mm .User Interface: {gap}Industrial Designer: Oh thecustomers , okay .Marketing: Yeah .Project Manager: the customers , indeed yes . Think that's that'simportant matter .Marketing: That's the big question yeah .Project Manager: Uh . {vocalsound} So{vocalsound} And then uh we will close this meeting uhUser Interface: {vocalsound}Project Manager:and after this meeting we'll uh we'll have a lunch . Good . Um . Maybe um why uh Anna can you c do youhave a presentations ?Marketing: No , I don't .Project Manager: You don't have presentation ?Marketing:I wasn't . No .Project Manager: Uh you want a table to to uhMarketing: I c I can talk about it but I haveno slides or anything .Project Manager: Yes yes maybe maybe you can uh can just talk about it or maybeyou can use the whiteboard if necessary um .Marketing: Mm-hmm . Well I've just been um presentedwith some research we've done in a small focus group so , a hundred people , just asked them abouttheir remote control usage habits and what they want in a remote control . Um . It's {disfmarker}probably can't email this to you , I've just got a web page with some data on it . Um basically it's sayingthat users generally dislike the look and feel of their remote controls . Um seventy five u seventy fivepercent of users find most remote controls ugly . Um .Project Manager: Mm-hmm .Marketing: Eightypercent of users would spend more money when a remote control would look fancy . Um . Current remotecontrols do not match well the operating behaviour of the user . Uh seventy five percent of users saidthey zap a lot , so they use their remote control quite frequently while they're watching television . Uh .Fifty percent of users say that they only use ten percent of the buttons , so they've got a remote controlwith a lot of functionality but really most of the time they only use a small part of that .Project Manager:Mm .Marketing: Um .Project Manager: Do you Do you have this uh information on the web page you said?Marketing: I have an a web page yes .Project Manager: Yes , mayb maybe you can can send an email tome later uh . Uh about this .Marketing: Yep . Yep , sure . Mm-hmm . So basically um there's a breakdownof how much they use the different functions on a rem remote control . Um , power and volume selectionare only used a few times within this uh per hour . Um , channel selection is used a hundred and sixtyeight times um {vocalsound} and then there's things like channel settings , audio settings , which areonly used very infrequently .Project Manager: Mm .Marketing: Um . Teletext is used um fourteen times inthe hour , so it is used but not nearly as much as the channel selection is used . Um .Project Manager:Mm .Marketing: An interesting thing that this report has brought up is that um fifty fifty percent of users"} {"doc_id":"doc_91","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: Yep . Soon as I get this . Okay . This is our last meeting . Um I'll go ahead and gothrough the minutes from the previous meeting . Uh and then we'll have a , the prototype presentation .{vocalsound} Um then we will um do an evaluation . Uh or we'll see what , what we need to have underthe criteria for the evaluation . Then we'll go through the finance and see if we fall within the budget . Umthen we'll do the evaluation , and then we can finish up after that with um any changes that we'll need tomake , or hopefully everything will fall right in line . Um let's see , minutes from the last meeting . Um welooked at uh the the trends . We had uh the fashion trends that people want a fancy look-and-feel . Itwas twice as important as anything else . Um they liked fruit and vegetables in the new styles . Um and aspongy feel . So we were talking about trying to incorporate those into our prototype . Um they wantedlimited buttons and simplicity . Um then we looked at the uh the method for coming up with our ownremote . Um looking at other other devices . Um the iPod , we really liked the look of that . Um we alsohad uh the kid's remote for a simple idea . Um a two part remote , which was what were were originallylooking at . Uh and then um there was talk of spee uh speech recognition um becoming more uhpredominant and easier to use . But I think we've still decided not to go with that . {vocalsound} Then welooked at the components um the materials for the case , the different energy sources , the differenttypes of chips , um and made a decision on what we were going to use to make our remote . Um andbasically how , what were making for the prototype . So I'm going to leave it at that and let you guystake over .User Interface: The prototype discussion .Project Manager: The prototype yeah . Do you needa {disfmarker} this ?User Interface: No . {vocalsound}Project Manager: Okay .Industrial Designer:{vocalsound} Can try to plug that in thereUser Interface: There is our remo {gap} the banana.Marketing: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: but {disfmarker}User Interface: Um {vocalsound} yeahbasically we we st went with the colour yellow . Um working on the principle of a fruit which wasmentioned , it's basically designed around a banana .Project Manager: {vocalsound}User Interface: Umbut it would be held in such a fashion ,Marketing: {vocalsound}User Interface: where it is , obviously itwouldn't be that floppy 'cause this would be hard plastic . These would be like the rubber , the rubbergrips . So that's so that would hopefully help with grip , or like the ergonomics of it . Um but all thecontrolling would be done with this scroll wheel . You have to use your imagination a little bit . And thishere represents the screen , where you , where you'd go through .Project Manager: Very nice .UserInterface: And the the simplest functions would be um almost identical to an iPod , where that one waych through channels , that way th other way through channels . Volume up and down . And then toaccess the more complicated functions you'd you sorta go , you press that and go through the menus .It's that that simple . That just represents the infrared uh beam . That's a simple on and off switch . Um Idon't know , we could use the voice . T that blue bits should be yellow , that that'd be where the batterieswould be I suppose . And um {vocalsound} that's about it . It's as simple as you , we could make it really.Industrial Designer: Right .User Interface: Is there anything you want to add ?Industrial Designer:That's what we have there . That's plastic . Plastic covered with rubber . We might uh add some moreunderneath here . Maybe give it , give it a form . I mean you're supposed to hold it like that , but um justif you grab it , take it from somewhere ,User Interface: Yeah .Project Manager: Mm-hmm .IndustrialDesigner: so {disfmarker} yeah ,User Interface: Doesn't make much make much difference .IndustrialDesigner: you have some rub yeah .User Interface: You could work left-handed or right-handed Isuppose .Industrial Designer: Exactly , {gap} use both . Might as well think about {disfmarker}UserInterface: T the actual thing might be smaller .Industrial Designer: Th think about the button as well .Like either put either one {gap} one on either side orUser Interface: {vocalsound} Yeah .ProjectManager: What but what's that button ?Industrial Designer: not do it at all . It's a quick on-off button.User Interface: Just the on and off .Project Manager: Uh , 'kay .Industrial Designer: That's umMarketing:{vocalsound}Industrial Designer: yeah I think it's pretty important . So you don't have to fiddle with that.Project Manager: 'Kay .Industrial Designer: Right ? Um that's not um {disfmarker}Project Manager:{vocalsound}Industrial Designer: I'd say a bit smaller would probably be nice . You wanna play with that"} {"doc_id":"doc_92","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: Mm-hmm ? Okay . Ooh .User Interface: {gap}Industrial Designer: So we're 'kay ? Onthe {gap} or {disfmarker} No . I dunno where to put it 'cause the {disfmarker} Okay . Could you s takeit off ? {gap} .Marketing: Is that alright ? {vocalsound} {gap} or {disfmarker} Okay .IndustrialDesigner: Okay .Marketing: Keeps coming off . 'S fiddly .Project Manager: Hmm . {gap}Marketing:{vocalsound} Right .Project Manager: How do we sta wa how do we start ? Does anybody know?Marketing: Oh , another one .Project Manager: So that's this {disfmarker}Industrial Designer:{vocalsound}Project Manager: Oh okay , right .Industrial Designer: Are we free to take notes uh{disfmarker} Okay .Project Manager: Uh {vocalsound} {gap} . {vocalsound} {gap} . Hmm . Okay , justhang on a second everybody . I haven't actually looked at this yet .Marketing: {vocalsound} Ah .ProjectManager: {gap} um {disfmarker}Marketing: Very nice .Project Manager: I haven't looked at it , but let'sjust start it off and we'll see what happens . If you're all ready .User Interface: Yeah .Project Manager: So{gap} is the agenda ? Opening , acquaintance , tool training and project plan , discussion and thenclosing . Project aim is a new remote control . It's original , uh trendy and it's user-friendly .Marketing:'Kay .Project Manager: Project method , functional design , individual work , another meeting ,conceptual design , individual work , and a meeting of details design , individual work and a meeting .Tool training . Try out the whiteboard , every participant should draw their favourite animal and sum uptheir favourite characteristics of that animal .Marketing: Okay .Project Manager: Um . Uh Miss IndustrialDesigner , would you like to go first ?Industrial Designer: Okay . So are we supposed to bring the littlethings for the {disfmarker}Project Manager: Yeah , why don't you just c , I think just clip on{disfmarker} clipMarketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager: {disfmarker} do you have a belt ?IndustrialDesigner: Mm .Marketing: Clip {gap} .Project Manager: Or put 'em in your pocket , yeah .IndustrialDesigner: Yeah . {vocalsound} {gap} okay . So my favourite animal {disfmarker}Project Manager: Yeah, what's your favourite animal ?Industrial Designer: 'Kay um {disfmarker}Marketing: Ah .ProjectManager: Is it rude ?Marketing: It's an elephant . {vocalsound}User Interface: {vocalsound}ProjectManager: That's a very good elephant .User Interface: The back end of an elephant .Marketing: Oh mygosh , I'm never gonna be able to draw that well . {vocalsound}Project Manager: 'Kay , and you want towrite up on there , it says you've gotta sum up your f f your favourite characteristics of that animal.Industrial Designer: Um {vocalsound} okay , it's big , it's got a great memory .Marketing: Does it ? Oh.Industrial Designer: Supposed to have a great memory , we say an elephant never forgets .ProjectManager: Mm .Marketing: Mm .Industrial Designer: And uh dunno know why but {vocalsound} looks likenice to me .Project Manager: Okay . Wonderful , well done .Industrial Designer: Nice animal .ProjectManager: Do you want to use the wipe {disfmarker} the m the wiper and wipe it off ?Industrial Designer:Okay .Project Manager: And Mister aesthetics designer do you wanna go next ?User Interface:{vocalsound} Aesthetic yep , sure .Marketing: I have no idea what my favourite animal is .UserInterface: 'Kay , my favourite animal ,Marketing: {vocalsound}User Interface: uh let's see .Marketing:Oh .User Interface: Dunno if any of you have seen Napoleon Dynamite before .Marketing: It's{disfmarker}User Interface: It's a liger {vocalsound} ,Project Manager: No .Marketing: A what ?UserInterface: a combination of a lion and tiger {vocalsound} .Marketing: Alright .Project Manager:{vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}User Interface: Have you not seen Napoleon Dynamite?Marketing: How {gap} .Project Manager: No .Industrial Designer: No .User Interface: Oh it's a hilariousmovie .Marketing: No .User Interface: You have to see it . And and it's best characteristic is it's prettymuch the awesomest animal . But you have to see the movie to fully appreciate it . {vocalsound}ProjectManager: Okay , well done .Marketing: Great . Me ?Project Manager: Yeah . Miss mar Miss Marketing?Marketing: Okay . Not quite sure how this is gonna work .User Interface: There {gap} go .Marketing:{vocalsound} Cool . {vocalsound} Uh {vocalsound} well I'll try my best {vocalsound} to draw . Can Ijust draw the face ?Project Manager: Um yeah , I think you can just draw the face , but then you'll haveto describe in writing how the rest of it looks . {vocalsound}Marketing: Ooh . It's a cat .Project Manager:That's a very pr pretty cat .Marketing: {vocalsound} Which also has what ? A big fat body and big"} {"doc_id":"doc_93","qid":"","text":"Marketing: I wanna find our if our remote works .Project Manager: Me too . {vocalsound}Marketing: Oh .{vocalsound}Project Manager: Okay . Um here's the agenda for our last meeting .Marketing: Whoohoo.Project Manager: Um after the opening we're going to have a prototype presentation , then we're goingto discuss the evaluation criteria and the financing of our remote . Then we're going to evaluate theproduct and I think the whole production process , and then we're gonna close it up , and we have fortyminutes , so let's get started . Oh , no , let's have the prototype presentation .Industrial Designer: Mm'kay ,User Interface: {gap}Industrial Designer: you ready ?User Interface: Um sure . You or me?Industrial Designer: Y you read that stuff , since you wrote it .User Interface: Okay . Well , since ourmaterials aren't exactly what we were going for , I'm just gonna translate what this all means for you.Industrial Designer: I'll be the Vanna .User Interface: {vocalsound} The base is gonna be gunmetal gray, which is what we had decided , and it's gonna be plastic . Um then there's the latex cover , which iswhat you see as red . Um because it can be replaceable , we just kinda went with the colour .ProjectManager: Right .User Interface: Um and then the buttons are actually kind of poking through rather thanon top . Um and the buttons will be a l much lighter blue , almost see-through .Project Manager: Hmm.User Interface: It's just sort of a very pale blue and a light-up yellow .Marketing: That's nice .ProjectManager: Yeah .User Interface: The whole thing lights up if you press any button , rather than it{disfmarker} just that one button will light up .Marketing: Good .User Interface: Um and then at thebottom we have our logo . Um bright yellow sort of design with the R_R_ {vocalsound} which will actuallylook like our logo .Project Manager: {vocalsound} Great .User Interface: And then on the side you havethe buttons . {vocalsound} They're one button , but they kind of push up and down .Project Manager:Okay .User Interface: I don't think they're scrolling .Industrial Designer: No . They're just buttons .UserInterface: {vocalsound} Right , yeah . And then {disfmarker} yeah , the buttons .Industrial Designer: Onoff switch will be here and as you've noticed on our prototype um they've ended up with a curvature kindof , by concave sort of thing , except for , you know , {gap} can't see underneath .Marketing: Yeah.Industrial Designer: So I'm hoping that when we get to production we can actually make them like that ,because they're very nice to stock {gap} you know , stick your finger in . Um the two squared buttonsare are two probably least used , menu , mute ,User Interface: Thumb-shaped .Marketing: Yeah.Industrial Designer: and then these are the numbers , so our channel and our volume will be on eitherside .User Interface: Yeah . And then the last thing is just that it'll be black labelling on top , just whichwe didn't do . {vocalsound}Project Manager: Okay . And did you determine um the curvature of thebottom part of it for the hand , is it gonna be a single or a double ?User Interface: {vocalsound}IndustrialDesigner: I'd say a single .Project Manager: Single . Single sounds good ,User Interface: Single .ProjectManager: 'cause it's not big enough to really constitute a double .Marketing: Yeah .Industrial Designer:Yeah , it's only actually the size of my hand .User Interface: Right .Project Manager: Great . Great . Ithink you did an awesome job .Marketing: Yeah , I think it's a beautiful {disfmarker}Project Manager: Itis beautiful , and it's everything that we discussed .User Interface: {vocalsound}Marketing: Yeah . Goodjob , you guys .Project Manager: Good job .Industrial Designer: Whoohoo .User Interface: Oh thank you .{vocalsound}Marketing: Those are really good .Project Manager: Alright {vocalsound}IndustrialDesigner: {gap}Project Manager: what's next in our agenda ? Um we're gonna discuss the evaluationcriteria , and that's with Courtney .Marketing: Okay , it's a PowerPoint presentation . I don't really knowexactly what we should uh talk about . It's under evaluation .Project Manager: Right .Marketing: Alright .Um so these are the criteria we're gonna ask , is it easy to use , is it fashionable uh {disfmarker} yeah , Iguess we should write these down so we can reference them .Project Manager: Mm .User Interface: Feelgood meaning what ?Marketing: Like does it feel good , like {disfmarker}User Interface: Physically,Project Manager: Right .User Interface: okay .Marketing: yeah , physically .User Interface: {gap}ProjectManager: Sqi {vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound} {vocalsound} That's just for current trend .ProjectManager: Right .User Interface: {vocalsound}Marketing: It doesn't really count , you guys .IndustrialDesigner: Yeah , it was a little difficult to incorporate the cover with the cherry fruit on it .User Interface:"} {"doc_id":"doc_94","qid":"","text":"Professor E: Let 's see . Test ? Test ? Yeah . OK .Grad A: Hello ?PhD B: Channel one .Grad A: Hello ?PhDC: Test .Professor E: I was saying Hynek 'll be here next week , uh , Wednesday through Friday{disfmarker} uh , through Saturday , and , um , I won't be here Thursday and Friday . But my suggestionis that , uh , at least for this meeting , people should go ahead , uh , cuz Hynek will be here , and , youknow , we don't have any Czech accent yet , uh , {vocalsound} as far as I know , so {disfmarker} Therewe go .PhD F: OK .Professor E: Um . So other than reading digits , what 's our agenda ?PhD F: I don'treally have , uh , anything new . Been working on {pause} Meeting Recorder stuff . So .Professor E: OK .Um . Do you think that would be the case for next week also ? Or is {disfmarker} is , uh {disfmarker} ?What 's your projection on {disfmarker} ?PhD F: Um .Professor E: Cuz the one thing {disfmarker} theone thing that seems to me we really should try , if you hadn't tried it before , because it hadn't occurredto me {disfmarker} it was sort of an obvious thing {disfmarker} is , um , adjusting the , uh , sca thescaling and , uh , insertion penalty sorta stuff .PhD F: I did play with that , actually , a little bit . Um .What happens is , uh , {vocalsound} when you get to the noisy stuff , you start getting lots of insertions.Professor E: Right .PhD F: And , um , so I 've tried playing around a little bit with , um , the insertionpenalties and things like that .Professor E: Yeah .PhD F: Um . I mean , it {disfmarker} it didn't make awhole lot of difference . Like for the well - matched case , it seemed like it was pretty good . Um .{vocalsound} I could do more playing with that , though . And , uh {disfmarker}Professor E: But youwere looking at mel cepstrum .PhD F: and see . Yes .Professor E: Right .PhD F: Oh , you 're talking aboutfor th {vocalsound} for our features .Professor E: Right . So , I mean , i it it 's not the direction that youwere working with that we were saying what 's the {disfmarker} uh , what 's the best you can do with{disfmarker} with mel cepstrum . But , they raised a very valid point ,PhD F: Mmm .Professor E: which ,I guess {disfmarker} So , to first order {disfmarker} I mean , you have other things you were gonna do ,but to first order , I would say that the conclusion is that if you , um , do , uh , some monkeying aroundwith , uh , the exact HTK training and @ @ {comment} with , uh , you know , how many states and soforth , that it {disfmarker} it doesn't particularly improve the performance . In other words , that eventhough it sounds pretty dumb , just applying the same number of states to everything , more or less , nomatter what language , isn't so bad . Right ? And I guess you hadn't gotten to all the experiments youwanted to do with number of Gaussians ,PhD F: Right .Professor E: but , um , let 's just {disfmarker} Ifwe had to {disfmarker} if we had to draw a conclusion on the information we have so far , we 'd saysomething like that . Right ?PhD F: Mm - hmm .Professor E: Uh , so the next question to ask , which is Ithink the one that {disfmarker} that {disfmarker} that Andreas was dre addressing himself to in thelunch meeting , is , um , we 're not supposed to adjust the back - end , but anybody using the systemwould .PhD F: Yeah .Professor E: So , if you were just adjusting the back - end , how much better wouldyou do , uh , in noise ? Uh , because the language scaling and insertion penalties and so forth areprobably set to be about right for mel cepstrum .PhD F: Mm - hmm .Professor E: But , um , they 'reprobably not at all set right for these things , particularly these things that look over , uh , larger timewindows , in one way or another with {disfmarker} with LDA and KLT and neural nets and {vocalsound}all these things . In the fa past we 've always found that we had to increase the insertion penalty to{disfmarker} to correspond to such things . So , I think that 's , uh , @ @ {comment} that 's kind of afirst - order thing that {disfmarker} that we should try .PhD F: So for th so the experiment is to , um ,run our front - end like normal , with the default , uh , insertion penalties and so forth , and then tweakthat a little bit and see how much of a difference it makesProfessor E: So by \" our front - end \" I meantake , you know , the Aurora - two s take some version that Stephane has that is , you know , our currentbest version of something .PhD F: if we were {disfmarker} Mm - hmm .Professor E: Um . I mean , y don'twanna do this over a hundred different things that they 've tried but , you know , for some version thatyou say is a good one . You know ? Um . How {disfmarker} how much , uh , does it improve if youactually adjust that ?PhD F: OK .Professor E: But it is interesting . You say you {disfmarker} you have forthe noisy {disfmarker} How about for the {disfmarker} for the mismatched or {disfmarker} or"} {"doc_id":"doc_95","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: So we come again for the the second meeting .User Interface: Mm-hmm .ProjectManager: Uh for the aim of this meeting now is to to make presentation about uh the work for each one.User Interface: {vocalsound}Project Manager: And {gap} take the the decision about the the design andthe functionality of the the remote control .User Interface: Okay . {vocalsound}Project Manager: And wehave {disfmarker} think I got a new project requirement .Industrial Designer: Okay .Project Manager: SoI think uh teletext becomes outdated . So the popularity of the {disfmarker} since the popularity of theinternet ,Industrial Designer: Okay .Project Manager: and I think we don't need lighting adaptive , so theremote control should be only used for the the television . And of course we should have our image {gap}in the in the design . So , let's start with the the industrial designer .User Interface: {vocalsound}ProjectManager: {gap} .User Interface: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Yeah , alright .Project Manager: Or yyou can use the whiteboard if you want .Industrial Designer: So uh {disfmarker} Well I have aPowerPoint pr presentation stored in my in my personal folderProject Manager: Here .Industrial Designer:so I I I think you can reach it from here .Marketing: Just go to explorer .Project Manager: Oh okay.Marketing: Or open . Participant two .Industrial Designer: Participant two .Project Manager: This one.Industrial Designer: Yeah .Marketing: Open uh .Industrial Designer: Uh open . {vocalsound}ProjectManager: Do you want to open {disfmarker}User Interface: Because it's open you mean .{vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Right , so um I will talkabout the the w working design and {disfmarker}User Interface: {vocalsound} F_ five .Marketing: Slideshow , view slide show , {gap} .Project Manager: Ah .Industrial Designer: And um well I I will present mymy first idea on how to build the {disfmarker} our new remote control for television .User Interface:{vocalsound}Industrial Designer: So uh can you go one page down , please . So I think the first things todo is to define the hardware components neededs to achieve uh what we want to do .User Interface:{vocalsound}Industrial Designer: So uh mm I'm thin uh {vocalsound} I think uh I I'll do a survey aboutwhat is uh what is available on the market and what what is the the cheapest possible {vocalsound}things we hav we can use . Then uh I will try with the technical team to to build a prototype and to see uhwith uh h how this little box {vocalsound} would uh look look like .User Interface: {vocalsound}IndustrialDesigner: And how an and we can uh start troubleshooting first uh com communication problems orthings like that .User Interface: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: And when we are ready with this firstprototype I I think we can add some software functionalities on a programmable chip like browsing bycontent or um things like that . Okay so can you go down uh {disfmarker} So , wha what I think{vocalsound} for now {vocalsound} is {vocalsound} we don't want to have a remote control w which iswiredUser Interface: {vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: so uh I think we uwe can use a battery for the {gap} . Then two programmable chips for both software functionalities andcommunication . And the communication with the T_V_ set is uh made through uh infraredcommunication So uh this is the {vocalsound} the schema of the {vocalsound} o of the future uh remotecontrolsUser Interface: Did you draw it ? {vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager:{vocalsound} Wow . {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: so uh you can you can see the components , uhbattery and uh the two chips goes to the infrared uh connection to the T_V_ set .User Interface: This{gap} .Project Manager: This {disfmarker}User Interface: What is the other chip for ? The one on top.Industrial Designer: The one on top is for the um {disfmarker} well the functionali thefunctionalitiesUser Interface: {vocalsound}Marketing: One is a communication .Industrial Designer: andthe the th red um {disfmarker} sorry the green one is is to {disfmarker} well , putting things together ,um f transform the data into uh qu into the format to to {gap} uh to communicate with the T_V_ set.User Interface: For men . To the {disfmarker} in {disfmarker} {vocalsound} Okay .Industrial Designer:And , that's it . I think we should use a F_P_G_A_ for {vocalsound} for the functionalities which is easy toto tUser Interface: Mm . What is F_P_G_A_ ?Industrial Designer: It's field programmable uh somethingarray .Marketing: {vocalsound} Gateway arrays .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yeah .Marketing: It'sa field programmable gateway arrays .User Interface: So why's it {disfmarker} how is it different from"} {"doc_id":"doc_96","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: Is everyone ready to start ?Industrial Designer: Yeah . {vocalsound}User Interface:Yeah .Marketing: {vocalsound} Yes .Project Manager: Okay . Great . Well , welcome to the third meetingof conceptual design . I'll just get the PowerPoint presentation up and running . Okay . Um , on theagenda for this , um , for this particular meeting , we'll have your three presentations on what you'vedone since our last meeting , after we came up with um some general ideas of our design . And , um ,then we have to make some key decisions on , on our remote control concept , and how we're gonnamake it , what uh materials we're gonna use , and that sort of thing .Industrial Designer:{vocalsound}Project Manager: The meeting will be forty minutes long .Industrial Designer: Okay .ProjectManager: And um we will once again have Poppy as our first presenter .Industrial Designer:{vocalsound} Okay .Project Manager: Alright , and I will switch up PowerPoint .Industrial Designer:Thank you .Project Manager: Okay .Industrial Designer: Should be just loading . {vocalsound} Okay . Oh, although I can't see it on my screen . That says go here . Okay . I've been doing some research into thedifferent components that we could use , um what's available to us f to actually make the remote control. Um , first of all we have to look at how the remote control is actually made , and what is it happensinside the casing , which is more your field . Um , thes main internal feature is a circuit board , whichcontains all the elec electronics and also the contacts with the power source .Marketing:{vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Which is not necessarily a battery , as we're about to see . Um , thereare several components of , um , the circuit board that we need to consider , where we'll be getting themfrom , what they'll be made of . Um , including the integrated circuit , which is also known as the chip .Which is where all the main information is uh contained . Um , diodes , transistors , resonators , resistors, and capacit capacitors all need to be considered as well . Um , and all their positioning in the circuit.Project Manager: Um {disfmarker} Are they all included , like mandatorily , or r are these differentoptions ?Industrial Designer: Uh , these , they're all different options , they're all separate , apart fromthe chip , which we will probable decide whether we buy a simple , a regular , advanced .ProjectManager: Yeah .Industrial Designer: We can go into that later . Um , all the other things are individualcomponents that we'd have to get in separately , and work out the most , like , effective um circuit ,including all the wires and everything like that . And the L_E_D_ of course , that's a light emitting diode .So , we could , so we've got flex flexibility with colours and things , with that as well .Project Manager:Mm .Industrial Designer: Okay , there are lots of different possibilities for the energy source . We coulduse a basic battery , but that brings with it , like they need to be recharged and the bulk , the size of it aswell . And they're not so great to dispose of , environmentally . {vocalsound} There's a hand-powereddynamo which is a sort of thing that was used for torches fifty years ago . A bit out of date . Kineticenergy is something that's been recently developed .Project Manager: Um {disfmarker} What is ahand-powered dynamo ?Industrial Designer: Um , where you manually charge up the power .ProjectManager: Just every , every once in a while ?Industrial Designer: Like you wind up something .ProjectManager: Just every once in a while or constantly ?Industrial Designer: Sorry ? Yeah . Every once in awhile I thinkProject Manager: Alright . It'd be kind of strange to always be cranking it I think .IndustrialDesigner: . But it's {disfmarker} Yeah . It would be like going a step back in time .User Interface:{vocalsound} Yeah .Industrial Designer: I don't think it would really be with kind of cutting edgetechnology .Project Manager: No . {vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Whereaskinetic energy is a new idea that's being used by some watches and other devices , where you just shakethe device and it gives it power . I mean , the kinetic energy is transformed into power to make thecircuit work . Um , or there's solar power , which we've been considering inside a building , which iswhere it's gonna be used , might not be quite so useful .Project Manager: Right .Industrial Designer: But, good to look into , renewable energy , always the way . Um , lots of considerations for the case , likewhat sort of shape it would be , curved or flat . That's got a lot to do with the ergonomics . Like how it'scomfortable and s sits in the hand . We don't want something that's huge and you can't pick up . Or toosmall . Or too slidy . I know I've had a remote control before which you couldn't tell which was the front"} {"doc_id":"doc_97","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: Uh it fell off . One , two , three , four , yeah , we're ready . Okay . Welcome to thissecond meeting . Um it's now quarter after twelve and we're given forty minutes um for this meeting .This is a meeting on functional design . Um and I wanna welcome you all and thank you all for doingsome research in between . Um I did {disfmarker} took the minutes from the first meeting and I'll showthem to you in a moment . Um I know each of you have a presentation and um in thinking about the fortyminutes , I thought it would take only like three minutes for the previous minutes , um each of youhaving about seven minutes or maybe a little more , maybe a little less for your pre presentations and alittle discussion , because there's {disfmarker} I happen to have been told there were some new projectrequirements and we have to make some uh decision on what functions it will have . Okay ? Is this apeverybody agree with this ?Industrial Designer: Oops .User Interface: Yes .Marketing: Yes .ProjectManager: Okay . Um and after the meeting there'll be things to be done and as you can see it says weget to get lunch , um and then some more individual work and then putting minutes away and individualactions . {vocalsound} Um but uh now for the minutes of the first meeting . And go to that one . Um asyou can see it was this earlier today . Um Kate , Steph , Sarah and myself in our four capacities werepresent . I opened the meeting , the product was developed uh and reviewed , and we talked about thefinancial end of it . Um and it had some implications , um the four million sales target and new ideas ofnot too many buttons , bright colours and some of the influence of the Japanese . And we closed early soyou could then proceed with your research and getting your reports together for tod this meeting{vocalsound} Anybody have any questions on those minutes ? Are they complete , did they discusseverything that we covered last time ? 'Kay .Industrial Designer: Uh I think so ,Project Manager: Did Imiss something ?Industrial Designer: we we we talked about the the individual roles that we each had aswell .Marketing: Mm-hmm .Project Manager: Yeah . I'm afraid I incorporated {vocalsound} that when Isaid who was present , but {disfmarker} yes , we did ,Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Okay .ProjectManager: and we did a little bit of uh team building of uh of making the pictures ,Marketing:{vocalsound} Okay , I accept the minutes .Project Manager: but I didn't think those were appropriate tothe minutes necessarily . So um as a group I think we've {disfmarker} are {disfmarker} they'reaccepting the minutes . And uh {disfmarker} okay .Marketing: Is that what we're supposed to say?Project Manager: Yeah .User Interface: Yeah , I do .Project Manager: Good . Um , then we'll move to thethree presentations . Okay ?Marketing: Okay .Project Manager: Okay . Mm we need to move this . Whowants to go f first ? {vocalsound} That's as far as it goes .User Interface: Uh not really meant to touchthose microphones . Oh it doesn't have any on , does it ? That's fine .Marketing: Excellent , thank you.Industrial Designer: Oy , big loop under the table .Project Manager: She said we didn't need to screw itin .Marketing: Okay . Okay , that looks good .Project Manager: It's doing its thing . There we are.Marketing: Alright . Thank you very much . Um . One of the the biggest issues I found about um fromlast meeting was the fact that we need to sell four million of these um remote controls and I think thatthis is an opportunity to really take Real Reaction in the direction of of similar {disfmarker} of handheldtools that have been used and are used by many of us and to kind of bring the remote control into the sisame realm as an accessible um useful electronic device , as opposed to something that is lost in thecouch and what have you . So um my main goal here is to re-envision the remote control in in thiscontext and to think about menu functionality and current technology and the fact that it could beinteractive with other tools . Um some of the research uh in the market has shown that people really arenot happy with remote controls as they are now , and um that means we do need to make somedecisions about what what keys or or buttons on the on the remote control to perhaps keep and and whatones to discard . And if we devote some energy into this , I think the um recent productions of RealReaction , the I go everywhere power and the high definition D_V_D_ players {disfmarker} although itmakes immediate sense to {vocalsound} have our remote control interact with these , I think we can alsouse this as a platform to make it interact with other tools . And um in fact I think the high definitionD_V_D_ players and all of this will come along in the uh {disfmarker} will only benefit from the positive"} {"doc_id":"doc_98","qid":"","text":"Postdoc B: Alright .Professor C: So , uh {disfmarker}Grad F: Um , so I wanted to discuss digits briefly ,but that won't take too long .Professor C: Oh good . Right . OK , agenda items , Uh , we have digits ,What else we got ?PhD A: New version of the presegmentation .Professor C: New version ofpresegmentation .Postdoc B: Um , do we wanna say something about the , an update of the , uh ,transcript ?PhD G: Yeah , why don't you summarize the {disfmarker}Professor C: Update on transcripts.PhD G: And I guess that includes some {disfmarker} the filtering for the , the ASI refs , too .Postdoc B:Mmm .Professor C: Filtering for what ?PhD G: For the references that we need to go from the{disfmarker} the {pause} fancy transcripts to the sort of {nonvocalsound} brain - dead .Postdoc B: It 'll{disfmarker} it 'll be {disfmarker} basically it 'll be a re - cap of a meeting that we had jointly thismorning .Professor C: Uh - huh .PhD G: With Don , as well .Postdoc B: Mm - hmm .Professor C: Got it .Anything else more pressing than those things ? So {disfmarker} So , why don't we just do those . Yousaid yours was brief , so {disfmarker}Grad F: OK . OK well , the , w uh as you can see from the numberson the digits we 're almost done . The digits goes up to {pause} about four thousand . Um , and so , uh ,we probably will be done with the TI - digits in , um , another couple weeks . um , depending on howmany we read each time . So there were a bunch that we skipped . You know , someone fills out the formand then they 're not at the meeting and so it 's blank . Um , but those are almost all filled in as well .And so , once we 're {disfmarker} it 's done it would be very nice to train up a recognizer and actuallystart working with this data .PhD D: So we 'll have a corpus that 's the size of TI - digits ?Grad F: And so{disfmarker} One particular test set of TI - digits .PhD D: Test set , OK .Grad F: So , I {disfmarker} Iextracted , Ther - there was a file sitting around which people have used here as a test set . It had beenrandomized and so onPhD D: Grad F: and that 's just what I used to generate the order . of theseparticular ones .PhD D: Oh ! Great . Great .Professor C: So , I 'm impressed by what we could do , Is takethe standard training set for TI - digits , train up with whatever , you know , great features we think wehave , uh for instance , and then test on uh this test set .Grad F: Um {disfmarker}Professor C: Andpresumably uh it should do reasonably well on that , and then , presumably , we should go to the distantmike , and it should do poorly .PhD D: Yeah .Professor C: And then we should get really smart over thenext year or two , and it {disfmarker} that should get better .Grad F: Right . And inc increase it by one ortwo percent , yeah .Professor C: Yeah , {vocalsound} Yeah .Grad F: Um , but , in order to do that weneed to extract out the actual digits .Professor C: Right .Grad F: Um , so that {disfmarker} the reason it's not just a transcript is that there 're false starts , and misreads , and miscues and things like that . Andso I have a set of scripts and X Waves where you just select the portion , hit R , um , it tells you what thenext one should be , and you just look for that . You know , so it {disfmarker} it 'll put on the screen , \"The next set is six nine , nine two two \" . And you find that , and , hit the key and it records it in a file in aparticular format .Professor C: So is this {disfmarker}Grad F: And so the {disfmarker} the question is ,should we have the transcribers do that or should we just do it ? Well , some of us . I 've been do I 'vedone , eight meetings , something like that , just by hand . Just myself , rather . So it will not take long .Um {disfmarker}Professor C: Uh , what {disfmarker} what do you think ?Postdoc B: My feeling is that wediscussed this right before coffee and I think it 's a {disfmarker} it 's a fine idea partly because , um , it 'snot un unrelated to their present skill set , but it will add , for them , an extra dimension , it might be aninteresting break for them . And also it is contributing to the , uh , c composition of the transcript cuz wecan incorporate those numbers directly and it 'll be a more complete transcript . So I 'm {disfmarker} Ithink it 's fine , that part .Grad F: There is {disfmarker} there is {disfmarker}Professor C: So you think it's fine to have the transcribers do it ?Postdoc B: Mm - hmm .Professor C: Yeah , OK .Grad F: There 's oneother small bit , which is just entering the information which at s which is at the top of this form , ontothe computer , to go along with the {disfmarker} where the digits are recorded automatically .PhD D:Good .Professor C: Yeah .Grad F: And so it 's just , you know , typing in name , times {disfmarker} time ,date , and so on . Um , which again either they can do , but it is , you know , firing up an editor , or ,again , I can do . Or someone else can do .Postdoc B: And , that , you know , I 'm not , that {disfmarker}"} {"doc_id":"doc_99","qid":"","text":"Grad D: And we already got the crash out of the way . It did crash , so I feel much better , earlier.Professor F: Yeah .Postdoc E: Interesting . Hmm .Professor F: Will you get the door , and {disfmarker}? Grad D: OK , so um .Professor F: OK . You collected an agenda , huh ?Grad D: I did collect an agenda .So I 'm gonna go first . Mwa - ha - ha ! It shouldn't take too long .Postdoc E: Yeah .Grad D: Um , so we're pretty much out of digits . We 've gone once through the set . Um , so the only thing I have todoProfessor F: No there 's only ten .Grad D: Yeah , that 's right . so I {disfmarker} I just have to gothrough themProfessor F: Well , OK .Grad D: and uh pick out the ones that have problems , and eithercorrect them or have them re - read . So we probably have like four or five more forms to be read , to beonce through the set . I 've also extracted out about an hour 's worth . We have about two hours worth . Iextracted out about an hour 's worth which are the f digits with {disfmarker} for which whose speakerhave speaker forms , have filled out speaker forms . Not everyone 's filled out a speaker form . So Iextracted one for speakers who have speaker forms and for meetings in which the \" key \" file and thetranscript files are parsable . Some of the early key files , it looks like , were done by hand , and so they're not automatically parsable and I have to go back and fix those . So what that means is we have aboutan hour of transcribed digits that we can play with . Um , Liz {disfmarker}Professor F: So you think two{disfmarker} you think two hours is the {disfmarker} is the total that we have ?Grad D: Yep , yeah.Professor F: And you think we th uh , I {disfmarker} I didn't quite catch all these different things thatare not quite right , but you think we 'll be able to retrieve the other hour , reasonably ?Grad D: Yes ,absolutely .Professor F: OK .Grad D: So it 's just a question of a little hand - editing of some files andthen waiting for more people to turn in their speaker forms . I have this web - based speaker form , and Isent mail to everyone who hadn't filled out a speaker form , and they 're slowly s trickling in .Professor F:So the relevance of the speaker form here , sGrad D: It 's for labeling the extracted audio files .ProfessorF: Oh , OK .Grad D: By speaker ID and microphone type .Professor F: Wasn't like whether they weregiving us permission to use their digits or something .Grad D: No , I spoke with Jane about that and wesort of decided that it 's probably not an issue that {disfmarker} We edit out any of the errors anyway .Right ? So the there are no errors in the digits ,Professor F: Yeah .Grad D: you 'll always read the stringcorrectly . So I can't imagine why anyone would care . So the other topic with digits is uh , Liz would liketo elicit different prosodics , and so we tried last week with them written out in English . And it just didn'twork at all because no one grouped them together . So it just sounded like many many more linesinstead of anything else . So in conversations with Liz and uh Jane we decided that if you wrote them outas numbers instead of words it would elicit more phone number , social security number - like readings .The problem with that is it becomes numbers instead of digits . When I look at this , that first line is \"sixty one , sixty two , eighteen , eighty six , ten . \" Um , and so the question is does anyone care ? Um , I've already spoken with Liz and she feels that , correct me if I 'm wrong , that for her , connectednumbers is fine ,Postdoc E: Mm - hmm .Grad D: as opposed to connected digits . Um , I think two hoursis probably fine for a test set , but it may be a little short if we actually wanna do training and adaptationand all that other stuff .Professor F: Yeah Um , do um you want different prosodics , so if you always hadthe same groupings you wouldn't like that ? Is that correct ?PhD G: Well , we actually figured out a wayto {disfmarker}Grad D: Yeah , the {disfmarker} the {disfmarker}PhD G: the {disfmarker} the groupingsare randomly generated .Professor F: No but , I was asking if that was something you really cared aboutbecause if it wasn't , it seems to me if you made it really specifically telephone groupings that maybepeople wouldn't , uh , go and do numbers so much . You know if it if it 's {disfmarker}PhD A: Uh{disfmarker}PhD G: I think they may still do it , um ,Professor F: Maybe some , but I probably not somuch .PhD B: What about putting a hyphen between the numbers in the group ?PhD G: And{disfmarker}Professor F: Right ? So if you {disfmarker} if {disfmarker} if you have uhGrad D: Six dashone , you mean ?Professor F: if you go six six six uh dash uh two nine three one .PhD G: I {disfmarker}well OK {disfmarker} I {disfmarker} it might help , I would like to g get away from having only onespecific grouping .Professor F: That 's what I was asking , yeah .PhD G: Um , so if that 's your question"} {"doc_id":"doc_100","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: Hi Kate . {vocalsound} Okay , carry on .Industrial Designer: Just just carry on .{vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound} Alright um this is the beginning of the third meeting , theconceptual design meeting . Um our agenda should be um that we're opening the meeting , I have{disfmarker} the minutes from the previous meeting are on the shared f drive at this point . Um and weshould each have a presentation to make . Um we have certain decisions to make and we have fortyminutes total . It's twenty five after two at the moment , so forty minutes is five after three ,{vocalsound} um which I'll be keeping an eye on the clock for us . Okay . {vocalsound} Um there are thedecisions we have to turn to , but we'll come back to them in a minute after I take us to the minutes ofthe previous meeting . Right um as we remember , I opened the meeting , the four of us were present ,the meeting {disfmarker} the first meeting's minutes were reviewed and approved . Um Sarah , youpresented a marketing research report um which pretty much rep represented that fifteen to thirty fiveyear olds uh it has to be hand-held , power , channel , volume , number keys , possibly a speechrecognition . And then Steph did a second presentation um that those functions plus streamlining themwith big user-friendly keys that were easy to use . I think all of us agreed with those things . Katepresented a working design of {disfmarker} going after {disfmarker} going over the basics on thewhiteboard um that it should be a simple mass-produced device , because of the twelve and a half Pencecost . Um but we did talk about possibly using rechargeable batteries and having a docking place as aselling point . Um and the new requirements that it for {disfmarker} be for T_V_ only um and that itinclude the l so slogan and colour of the uh corporate design be included . Um {vocalsound} thecorporate image . So we agreed that the target market would be fifteen to thirty five with more moneythan sense , that were decision makers . Alternatively it would be a manufacturer to enclose it with theT_V_ , but it still should meet those parameters . Um and that the function we agreed was volume ,power , numbers , enter , channels , a way to move between channels , easy to use and hand-held .{vocalsound} Um at that point we agreed that Sarah would look at the current cost of competition , whatwhat do the current ones sell for . Um and Steph was gonna look at ec ergonomics . Kate was gonna lookat cost and feasibility of the various possibilities that we discussed . And I was to type up these minutesand work on the final report . Is this a fair presentation of what our last meeting was ?User Interface:Yeah .Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .User Interface: Yes .Project Manager: Okay . Right . So we're readyto close that and go back to our {disfmarker} That one . Right . We're up to the point of the {disfmarker}Go back . Um {vocalsound} the three presentations . So we're going to pull the plug on me and turn toSarah . Is that okay ? Is that alright with everybody else ?Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .{vocalsound}User Interface: Yep .Project Manager: Especially since Kate asked to be last . {vocalsound}Sarah , I'm sorry if I misspelled your name , I didn't know whether it was S_A_R_A_ or {vocalsound}S_A_R_H_ .Marketing: {vocalsound} {vocalsound} I respond to either .Project Manager: You respond towhatever you get , huh ? {vocalsound}Marketing: No worries .Project Manager: Okay . Um , did you doyour {disfmarker} Hit {disfmarker}User Interface: Yeah , {gap}Project Manager: Ah , there it is . Ta-da.Marketing: Okay , first thing I want to address is um one of the points that Florence brought up , whichwas uh current cost of the competition devices , similar to the ones that Stephanie uh showed us and andthey're uh twenty to sixty Euros , depending on uh branding .User Interface: Right .Marketing: Some ofthem that have a higher brand recognition are on the more expensive end . But I think that with thecurrent um price that we're searching for , we're well within , even on the lower end , of the uh of themarket .Project Manager: Mm 'kay .Marketing: But I'm going to move on to more interesting um{vocalsound} more vibrant things . {vocalsound} So , I investigated the remote control market ingreater detail , and my uh {disfmarker} the theme of what I was to work on was uh trend watch .UserInterface: {vocalsound}Marketing: And {vocalsound}Project Manager: 'Kay .User Interface:{vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Sorry . {vocalsound}User Interface:{vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound}User Interface:{vocalsound}Industrial Designer: I'm glad to see the marketing budget is being so well spent on"} {"doc_id":"doc_101","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: That should hopefully do the trick , um . 'Kay . Sorry about the small delay . Falling alittle bit behind schedule . And that's uh fifteen twenty five . Okay . So just to try and roughly go overwhat we agreed in the last one , um we're gonna go for something uh uh how was it ? Uh The new black ,I believe .Marketing: {gap} .Project Manager: Um something that looks good 'cause that seems to be inpreference to actual functionality in the end , though we should never avoid functionality , of course . Uhmany of our components are gonna be standard , off the shelf , but it seemed like we were gonna requireat least an advanced chip and we were still very much for the idea of using an L_C_D_ display . Um otherthings were we were hoping to use rubber , most likely gonna be double curved , etcetera . Okay . So umdue to your hard work , we might as well let the uh two designers go first , and uh show us the prototype.User Interface: Okay , it's a {disfmarker}Project Manager: Quite how the best way to do this is , I'm notsure ,Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}User Interface: {gap} I think if we both step upProject Manager:but {disfmarker}User Interface: and uh outline our ideas . Okay . Now do {disfmarker} uh doing theprototype gave us a bit more insight into the ergonomics of the design . Um for one thing , it turned outthat the only point at which it needs to be articulated for handedness is um is h i is down here for the uhL_E_D_ . As it turned out , the whole thing transfers from the right to left hand fairly well from the pointof view of operating the uh function buttons and joystick , though it might be an idea to be able to aadjust the positions for the base of the joystick just a little bit for uh {disfmarker}Project Manager: Okay.User Interface: {gap} ju just a thought . You could simply have a slightly ovoid shaped joystick thatcould then just be turn uh twisted round , so that the uh sticky uh so that the bit that sticks out a bitmore is on one side or the other . But as you as you see with the uh {vocalsound} with holding it in theleft hand , the L_ uh the L_C_D_ is nowhere useful , so that would need to be articulated uh if we'regoing to retain {gap} ergonomic design . Um now I I got your note about uh keeping the cost down.Project Manager: I'm afraid yeah .User Interface: Yeah .Project Manager: We'll go into that a bit more,User Interface: {gap} this design could be done with um with uh plastic casing .Project Manager: butplease go on .User Interface: Though I would recommend around the grip part here in the middle ,having maybe just a rubber grip over that which would allow for a slightly more sort of bio-morphic form ,and a bit more ergonomic as well . As for the um as for the single curve , um well this edge and this edge, like I say it would be nice to have some curvature to it , but it's not absolutely necessary . Really thecurve that's most needed is the underside so that the jo so that the joystick rests over the the edge ofthe hand like this . Um and you have the uh transmitter here and a wee speaker for the uh for the uh forthe uh fi uh for the remote control finder . So .Project Manager: {vocalsound}User Interface: Any furthercomments ?Industrial Designer: Um obviously it's gonna be bulkier than how it looks , because it's gonnabe flat on one side , so the L_C_D_ will be s sticking down like this , won't it ?User Interface: Mm-hmm .Yeah .Industrial Designer: 'Cause it {disfmarker} you can't get it curved .User Interface: Yeah , I meantheIndustrial Designer: Uh because of costs .User Interface: uh {disfmarker} Yeah .Industrial Designer:And it's plastic as well , so it won't be as comfortable on the hand .User Interface: Yeah . I mean with thewith the rubber design it could i you know it could pretty much mould very much to the to the user's hand.Project Manager: Mm .User Interface: One nice wee feature if we could if we could still do the rubber , Ithough of was to have {gap} the uh rubber extend beyond the end of the uh {vocalsound} of the rigidsubstructure . So it has a wee sort of tail that you just drape over your wrist so it stays in position nicely.Project Manager: {vocalsound}User Interface: Mm . Lovely . Um .Industrial Designer: Yeah , {gap} .{vocalsound}Project Manager: Okay , yeah . Great . Um .Marketing: Right . Yeah I've got a {disfmarker}if you load up my evaluation document .Project Manager: Yeah , okay {gap} .User Interface: Okay.Project Manager: Excellent work .Marketing: Mm .Project Manager: Um .Marketing: Uh evaluation .{vocalsound} Basic point uh have a list of criteria that we need to rate the prototype by . {vocalsound}Um then we will {disfmarker} it's a seven s um seven seven step kinda evaluation process . So um notseven steps , seven scale . So after we've finished doing all the ratings for each criteria , we average thatand that will give us some type of uh confidence in our prototype . And uh the criteria {gap} based on"} {"doc_id":"doc_102","qid":"","text":"The Chair (Hon. Anthony Rota (NipissingTimiskaming, Lib.)): I call this meeting to order. Welcome to the14thmeeting of the House of Commons Special Committee on the COVID-19 Pandemic. This will be ahybrid meeting. Some members will be participating via video conference and some will be participatingin person. In order to ensure that those joining the meeting via video conference can be seen and heardby those in the chamber, two screens have been set up on either side of the Speaker's chair, andmembers in the chamber can listen to the floor audio or to interpretation using their earpiece at theirdesk. Before speaking, please wait until I recognize you by name, and please direct your remarks throughthe chair. For those joining via video conference, I would like to remind you to leave your mike on mutewhen you are not speaking. Also, please note that if you want to speak in English, you should be on theEnglish channel. If you want to speak French, you should be on the French channel. Should you wish toalternate between the two languages, you should change the channel to the language that you arespeaking each time you switch languages. Should members participating by video conference need torequest the floor outside their designated speaking times, they should activate their mic and state thatthey have a point of order. Those in the Chamber can rise in the usual way. Please note that today'sproceedings will be televised in the same way as a typical sitting of the House. We'll now proceed toministerial announcements. I understand that there are none. Now we'll proceed to the tabling ofdocuments. Mr.LeBlanc has a document he wants to table. Go ahead, Mr.LeBlanc.Hon. Dominic LeBlanc:Mr. Chair, I have the honour to table, in both official languages, a report entitled \"Democracy Matters,Debates Count: A report on the 2019 Leaders' Debates Commission and the future of debates in Canada.Mr. Chair, on behalf of all of us, I want to thank the Right Honourable David Johnston for his continuedservice.The Chair: Good. We'll now proceed to the presenting of petitions, for a period not exceeding 15minutes. I would like to remind members that any petition presented during a meeting of the specialcommittee must have already been certified by the clerk of petitions. For members participating inperson, we ask that you please come to the front and drop off your certificate at the table once thepetition has been presented. In presenting petitions, the first presenter today is Mr. Genuis.Mr. GarnettGenuis (Sherwood ParkFort Saskatchewan, CPC): Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'm pleased to be presenting apetition in support of Bill S-204. This is a bill in the Senate, put forward by Senator Salma Ataullahjan. Itwould make it a criminal offence for a person to go abroad and receive an organ for which there has notbeen consent by the donor. It also creates a mechanism by which someone could be deemed inadmissibleto Canada if they were involved in organ harvesting and trafficking. This bill is designed to confront andaddress the horrific practice by which, in certain casesfor instance, inside Chinaminority communities ordissidents may be targeted and have their organs removed as they're killed and used for transplantation.Petitioners are supportive of Bill S-204, and they want to see it passed as soon as possible.The Chair: Ournext petition will go to Mr. Viersen.Mr. Arnold Viersen (Peace RiverWestlock, CPC): Mr. Chair, I ampresenting a petition today signed by Canadians who are concerned that Bill C-7 removes safeguardsfrom the current euthanasia regime, including the mandatory 10-day waiting period. Mr. Chair, thesepeople who are signing this petition would like to see an improvement in assisted living, not assisteddying.The Chair: We'll now go to Ms. Zahid.Mrs. Salma Zahid (Scarborough Centre, Lib.): Thank you, Mr.Chair. I would like to present an e-petition signed by over 40 people. It asks that the Government ofCanada recognize the Republic of Somaliland as an autonomous state that may result in foreigninvestments, direct access of development aid, foreign aid for disaster relief and infrastructuredevelopment investment loans.The Chair: Now we'll proceed to Statements by Members for a period notexceeding 15 minutes. Each statement will be for a maximum of one minute. I remind members that ifthey exceed that time limit, they will be interrupted. Our first statement goes to Monsieur El-Khoury.Mr.Fayal El-Khoury (LavalLes les, Lib.): Mr.Chair, I thank the government for the way it has managed thisglobal crisis and its impact on Canadians. It has acted in a robust, rapid and very effective way. OurPrime Minister has been awarded the medal of honour, courage and humanity worldwide. Canada is oneof the few countries that has acted in the best interests of its citizens and maintained their dignity in"} {"doc_id":"doc_103","qid":"","text":"Sian Thomas: Bore da. Unfortunately, the Chair, Lynne Neagle, is unable to attend today's meeting.Therefore, in accordance with Standing Order 17.22, I call for nominations for a temporary Chair, for theduration of the meeting.Julie Morgan AM: I nominate John Griffiths.Sian Thomas: Any furthernominations? I therefore declare that John Griffiths has been appointed temporary Chair, and I invite himto chair for the duration of today's meeting.John Griffiths AM: Thank you very much. I thank theMembers for that. Welcome, everyone, to this meeting of the Children, Young People and EducationCommittee. The first item on our agenda today is apologies, substitutions, declarations of interest.Obviously, Lynne Neagle isn't able to be with us today. We haven't received any other apologies. Arethere any declarations of interest? No. We will move on then to item 2 on our agenda, the continuation ofour inquiry into targeted funding to improve educational outcomes, and evidence session 8. And I'm verypleased to welcome Estyn here this morning to give evidence to the committee. Would you like tointroduce yourselves for the record, please?Meilyr Rowlands: Meilyr Rowlands, chief inspector.ClaireMorgan: Claire Morgan, strategic director.Simon Brown: Simon Brown, strategic director.John GriffithsAM: Okay. Thank you. And welcome again. If it's okay, we'll move straight into questions—we have quitea number of questions to get through this morning. Firstly, Llyr.Llyr Gruffydd AM: Thank you, Chair, andgood morning. I just want to start by asking about your perception of how schools are using the pupildevelopment grant funding, and to what extent they are genuinely targeting that funding exclusivelytowards children eligible for free school meals.Meilyr Rowlands: Thank you for the question. This granthas been targeted far better by now than it was originally. Estyn has made several reports regarding theeffectiveness of the grant, and, really, going back to before this specific grant, to a similar grant, calledRAISE. At the start of this grant, the funding was often spent on tackling underachievement, rather thandealing with the underachievement of children who are eligible for free school meals specifically. But,over a period of time, we have seen that it is targeted much better by now. That's not to say that thetargeting is working perfectly still, and I think that we are seeing examples where the targeting isn'tgoing just to children who receive free school meals. Schools sometimes interpret poverty in a slightlywider way than that. In terms of what schools are doing with the grant, we have given evidence to you ofthe kinds of things that they are doing. They are tracking progress of pupils, they are trying to improveattendance, they are trying to work with families and the community in general, they're doing workspecifically to improve how children are doing in exams, in key stage 4, specifically—a lot of funding isbeing spent on that—improving the confidence of students, taking students on extra-curricular activities,improving literacy and numeracy. Those are the kinds of activities they're being used for.Llyr GruffyddAM: Because the research by Ipsos MORI and the Wales Institute of Social and Economic Research, Dataand Methods has shown that there is some kind of blurring—I think that's the term that they use—interms of who is eligible. But you are relatively comfortable with the fact that there is sufficient targetinghappening. You referred to the fact that it is used, perhaps, to reach a slightly wider cohort than justthose who are eligible for free school meals, but you do feel that that balance, from your experience, isacceptable.Meilyr Rowlands: Yes, certainly, it has improved a great deal. When I was looking at thisinitially, the targeting wasn’t happening at all. It was being spent on children who were underachieving,and one of the things that we did notice in the first report was that much more funding was being spenton boys than girls. And, of course, that raised the question immediately that it wasn't being spent thenon children who are eligible for free school meals, because those numbers are equal. So, it wasn’t, but ithas improved. There is a discussion about who exactly should have it and whether free school meals isthe best definition. So, I think that schools are perhaps not following that exactly, but within the spirit ofthe grant, I think I’m fairly comfortable. There is a specific question—I don’t know if you are going to askthis—regarding more able and talented pupils.Llyr Gruffydd AM: That's where I was going next.MeilyrRowlands: So, if there is a cohort of pupils who are missing out on this, they are the more able andtalented pupils who receive free school meals. There are a number of reasons for this, I think. One ofthem is that there’s still some feeling that less able children should be receiving this grant, children who"} {"doc_id":"doc_104","qid":"","text":"Grad A: OK . We seem to be recording .Professor G: Alright !Grad A: So , sorry about not{disfmarker}Professor G: We 're not crashing .PhD D: Number four .Grad A: not pre - doing everything .The lunch went a little later than I was expecting , Chuck .PhD E: Hmm ?Professor G: OK .PhD B: Chuckwas telling too many jokes , or something ?Grad A: Yep . Pretty much .PhD E: Yeah .Professor G: OK .{vocalsound} Does anybody have an agenda ?Grad A: No .Postdoc F: Well , I 'm {disfmarker} I sent acouple of items . They 're {disfmarker} they 're sort of practical .Professor G: I thought {pause}somebody had .Postdoc F: I don't know if you 're {disfmarker}Professor G: Yeah , that 's right .PostdocF: if {disfmarker} if that 's too practical for what we 're {pause} focused on .Grad A: I mean , we don'twant anything too practical .Professor G: Yeah , we only want th useless things .Grad A: Yeah , thatwould be {disfmarker}Professor G: Yeah . No , why don't we talk about practical things ?Postdoc F: OK.Professor G: Sure .Postdoc F: Well , um , I can {pause} give you an update on the {pause} transcriptioneffort .Professor G: Great .Postdoc F: Uh , maybe {nonvocalsound} raise the issue of microphone , uh ,um procedures with reference to the {pause} cleanliness of the recordings .Professor G: OK ,transcription , uh , microphone issues {disfmarker}Postdoc F: And then maybe {nonvocalsound} ask , thuh , these guys . The {disfmarker} we have great {disfmarker} great , uh , p steps forward in terms ofthe nonspeech - speech pre - segmenting of the signal .Professor G: OK .Grad A: Well , we have stepsforward .PhD C: Yeah .Postdoc F: Well , it 's a {disfmarker} it 's a big improvement .PhD C: I wouldprefer this .Professor G: Yes . Yeah , well . OK . Uh {disfmarker}PhD D: We talk about the {disfmarker}{vocalsound} the results ofProfessor G: You have some {disfmarker} Yeah .Grad A: I have a little bit ofIRAM stuffProfessor G: OK .PhD D: use {disfmarker}Grad A: but {pause} I 'm not sure if that 's ofgeneral interest or not .Professor G: Uh , bigram ?Grad A: IRAM .PhD D: IRAM .Professor G: IRAM .GradA: IRAM , bigram ,Professor G: Well , m maybe .PhD D: Bi - Bigram .Grad A: you know .Professor G:Yeah , let 's {disfmarker} let 's see where we are at three - thirty .PhD B: Hmm .Professor G: Um{disfmarker}PhD B: Since , uh {disfmarker} since I have to leave as usual at three - thirty , can we dothe interesting stuff first ?Postdoc F: I beg your pardon ?Professor G: Well {disfmarker}PhD C: Which is{disfmarker} ?Grad A: What 's the interesting stuff ?Postdoc F: I beg your pardon ?PhD D: Yeah.Professor G: Yeah . Th - now you get to tell us what 's the interesting part .PhD E: Please specify.Professor G: But {disfmarker}PhD B: Well , uh , I guess the work that 's been {pause} done onsegmentation would be most {disfmarker}PhD C: Yeah .Postdoc F: I think that would be a good thing tostart with .PhD B: Yeah .Professor G: OK . Um , and , um , {vocalsound} the other thing , uh , which I 'lljust say very briefly that maybe relates to that a little bit , which is that , um , uh , one of the suggestionsthat came up in a brief meeting I had the other day when I was in Spain with , uh , Manolo Pardo and{vocalsound} Javier , uh , Ferreiros , who was {pause} here before , was , um , why not start with whatthey had before but add in the non - silence boundaries . So , in what Javier did before when they weredoing , um {disfmarker} h he was looking for , uh , speaker change {pause} points .PhD D: Mm - hmm.Professor G: Um . As a simplification , he originally did this only using {pause} silence as , uh , a{pause} putative , uh , speaker change point .PhD C: Yeah .Professor G: And , uh , he did not , say , lookat points where you were changing broad sp uh , phonetic class , for instance . And for Broadcast News ,that was fine . Here obviously it 's not .PhD D: Yeah .Professor G: And , um , so one of the things thatthey were pushing in d in discussing with me is , um , w why are you spending so much time , uh , on the, uh , feature issue , uh , when perhaps if you sort of deal with what you were using beforePhD D: Uh -huh .Professor G: and then just broadened it a bit , instead of just ta using silence as putative changepoint also {disfmarker} ?PhD D: Nnn , yeah .Professor G: So then you 've got {disfmarker} you alreadyhave the super - structure with Gaussians and H - you know , simple H M Ms and so forth . And you{disfmarker} you might {disfmarker} So there was a {disfmarker} there was a little bit of a{disfmarker} a {disfmarker} a {disfmarker} a difference of opinion because I {disfmarker} I thoughtthat it was {disfmarker} it 's interesting to look at what features are useful .PhD D: Yeah .Professor G:But , uh , on the other hand I saw that the {disfmarker} they had a good point that , uh , if we had"} {"doc_id":"doc_105","qid":"","text":"Marketing: {vocalsound} That went well , thank you .Project Manager: That's great .Industrial Designer:{vocalsound} 'Kay .Marketing: Perfect .Project Manager: Alright , let me just PowerPoint this up .{vocalsound} {vocalsound} {vocalsound} Right so um this meeting will be about the conceptual design ,don't ask me s precisely what conceptual design is , it's just something important that we need to do .Um , think of it {disfmarker} 's kind of uh turning the abstract into slightly more concrete . In thismeeting ideally we'll come to some final decisions on what we're gonna do for the prototype . Um . Rightso um , apologies for the last meeting , it was brought to my attention that I did not make the roles clearenough , um , so I will attempt to do so more accurately in this particular meeting . Um , fair enough ,thanks for the input , 's always good . Um . So , basically all we're gonna do is have some presentationsagain much like last time , um , and gonna go through you , uh whoever wants to go first is f fine by meum and we'll collate what we know about um what we discussed in the last meeting , possible directions .{vocalsound} And then we'll make some more decisions on um basic uh firm up our idea on how we wantthis remote control to look and work . So , perfect . So , without th further ado , whoever wants to gofirst is free to .Industrial Designer: I'll go first .Project Manager: Alright Nathan ,Marketing: Go ahead.Project Manager: take it away . It is Nathan right ? I'm not calling you the wrong name over and overagain ?Industrial Designer: No Nathan's fine .Marketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound}Good .Industrial Designer: It's either Nathan or participant two .Project Manager:{vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound}User Interface: {vocalsound} Mister participant two that is .{vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Uh .Project Manager: {vocalsound}Marketing: Nice .IndustrialDesigner: Okay . Um ,Project Manager: Nice .Industrial Designer: basically what I'm gonna have to talkto you about today is um component design and it's been brought to my attention that we may besomewhat limited as to what we can do because of what our manufacturer offers ,Project Manager: Mm.Industrial Designer: so {disfmarker} Basically what I'm gonna be doing is talking to you about that . Um, components of a remote control , okay . We've already kind of gone over this but we're gonna have toget into more detail and probably have to reach some conclusions some time soon . Energy source , um ,our manufacturer offers a variety of energy sources , your standard battery , solar cells . Ourmanufacturer didn't say anything about lithium so we might have to look {disfmarker} if we do go thatroute , we might have to look elsewhere . Um , and also there's a kinetic energy possibility . Basically ,it's like a um {disfmarker} the idea of moving the remote would create enough energy to keep it running. So that's one possibility but I don't know whether that would be powerful enough to illuminate a touchscreen .Project Manager: Hmm .Industrial Designer: So we'll have to look into that .Marketing: Mm.Industrial Designer: Um , the case , we have a few options , plastic , rubber or wood . Um and then asfar as the way it's shaped , we can do standard boring flat , which we probably don't wanna do , curvedor very sexy double curved .Project Manager: What kind of th thickness are we looking at ?IndustrialDesigner: Um , I imagine that we could specify . Um , I don't see any reason to go outside of theconvention of three or four millimetres . Yeah .Project Manager: Okay , brilliant .Industrial Designer: Um, the buttons , there are multiple scroll buttons available from our manufacturer , but to use those we'dhave to use more chips , um and that would cost us more . And if we do go with the rubber doubledcurved case um we'll have to use rubber push buttons because the other buttons aren't compatible withthat .Project Manager: Hmm .Industrial Designer: Um and just a little note there ,Marketing: Right.Industrial Designer: touch screen equals many chips which equals many Euro .Project Manager:{vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound} Right . Nice .Industrial Designer: Um , one thing that I noticedwas that most remotes operate on a infrare on the infrared part of the spectrum . So you notice whenyou push a button on a remote you can't see anything coming out of it but in fact there is light comingout of the remote and you know the television can detect that . And if you were to record {disfmarker} ifyou were to make a video recording you could actually see the light . Uh one thing that I thought mightbe interesting was to use part {disfmarker} use visible light coming out of the remote , just kind of as afun gimmick .Project Manager: Hmm .Industrial Designer: So you could actually see something coming"} {"doc_id":"doc_106","qid":"","text":"Professor A: OK .Grad B: OK we 're on and we seem to be working .PhD C: Yes .Professor A: OK .Grad B:We didn't crash {disfmarker} we 're not crashing anymorePhD C: One , two , three , four , fGrad B: and itreally bothers me .Professor A: Yeah ?PhD C: No crashing .PhD G: I do . I crashed when I started thismorning .Grad B: You crashed {disfmarker} crashed this morning ? I did not crash this morning .PhD C:Yeah ?Professor A: Oh ! Well maybe it 's just , you know , how many t u u u u how many times you crashin a day .PhD G: Really ? Yeah . Maybe , yeah .Professor A: First time {disfmarker} first time in the day ,you know .PhD G: Or maybe it 's once you 've {pause} done enough meetings {comment} it won't crashon you anymore .PhD E: Yeah .PhD C: No ?Postdoc F: Yeah .PhD G: It 's a matter of experience .PhD E:Yeah .Professor A: Yeah .Postdoc F: Self - learning , yeah .Professor A: That 's {disfmarker} that 's great.PhD G: Yeah .Professor A: Uh .PhD C: Yeah .Professor A: Do we have an agenda ? Liz {disfmarker} Lizand Andreas can't sh can't {disfmarker} uh , can't come .Grad B: I do .Professor A: So , they won't behere .Grad B: I have agenda and it 's all me .PhD G: Did {disfmarker}Grad B: Cuz no one sent meanything else .PhD G: Did they send , uh , the messages to you about the meeting today ?Grad B: I haveno idea but I just got it a few minutes ago .PhD G: Oh .Grad B: Right when you were in my office itarrived .PhD G: Oh . OK , cuz I checked my mail . I didn't have anything .Grad B: So , does anyone haveany a agenda items other than me ? I actually have one more also which is to talk about the digits.Professor A: Uh , right , so {disfmarker} so I {disfmarker} I was just gonna talk briefly about the NSFITR .PhD C: Mm - hmm . Yeah .Grad B: Oh , great .Professor A: Uh , and then , you have{disfmarker}Postdoc F: Can wProfessor A: I mean , I won't say much , but {disfmarker} {comment} uh ,but then , uh , you said {disfmarker} wanna talk about digits ?Grad B: I have a short thing about digitsand then uh I wanna talk a little bit about naming conventions , although it 's unclear whether this is theright place to talk about it . So maybe just talk about it very briefly and take the details to the people who{disfmarker} for whom it 's relevant .Professor A: Right .PhD C: Yeah .Postdoc F: I could always saysomething about transcription . I 've been {disfmarker} {vocalsound} but {disfmarker} but {disfmarker}uh , well {disfmarker}Professor A: Well if we {disfmarker} Yeah , we shouldn't add things in just to addthings in . I 'm actually pretty busy today ,Postdoc F: Yeah .Professor A: so if we can {disfmarker}{comment} {vocalsound} we {disfmarker}Postdoc F: Yeah , yeah , yeah .Professor A: a short meetingwould be fine .Postdoc F: This does sound like we 're doing fine , yeah . That won't do .Grad B: So theonly thing I wanna say about digits is , we are pretty much done with the first test set . There areprobably forms here and there that are marked as having been read that weren't really read . So I won'treally know until I go through all the transcriber forms and extract out pieces that are in error . So I waUh . Two things . The first is what should we do about digits that were misread ? My opinion is , um , weshould just throw them out completely , and have them read again by someone else . You know , thegrouping is completely random ,PhD C: Uh - huh .Grad B: so it {disfmarker} it 's perfectly fine to put a{disfmarker} a group together again of errors and have them re - read , just to finish out the test set.Postdoc F: Oh ! By {disfmarker} throw them out completely ?Grad B: Um , the other thing you could dois change the transcript to match what they really said . So those are {disfmarker} those are the twooptions .PhD C: Yeah .Postdoc F: Mm - hmm .Professor A: But there 's often things where people do falsestarts . I know I 've done it , where I say {disfmarker} say a {disfmarker}Grad B: What the transcribersdid with that is if they did a correction , and they eventually did read the right string , {comment} youextract the right string .PhD G: Oh , you 're talking about where they completely read the wrong stringand didn't correct it ?PhD E: Yeah .Grad B: Yeah . And didn't notice . Which happens in a few places .PhDE: Yeah .PhD G: Ah .PhD C: Yeah .Grad B: So {disfmarker} so {disfmarker}Postdoc F: Well , and s andyou 're talking string - wise , you 're not talking about the entire page ?Grad B: Correct .PhD E: Yeah.Postdoc F: I get it .Grad B: And so the {disfmarker} the two options are change the transcript to matchwhat they really said , but then {disfmarker} but then the transcript isn't the Aurora test set anymore . Idon't think that really matters because the conditions are so different . And that would be a little easier.PhD G: Well how many are {disfmarker} how {disfmarker} how often does that happen ?Grad B: Mmm ,"} {"doc_id":"doc_107","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: Okay . Everybody ready ?Marketing: Okay .Industrial Designer: Yeah .Project Manager:Uh I think the first thing we do is introduce ourselvesMarketing: I think so .Project Manager: andeverybody's name and what your function is ?Marketing: Yeah , that's a good plan .Project Manager: Somaybe we start with you ?User Interface: Okay . Yeah , my name is Francina . And I'm uh an userinterface {disfmarker} my role is uh {disfmarker} the main responsibility is user interface .ProjectManager: Mm-hmm .User Interface: And my role is to design uh a television remote control .ProjectManager: Mm-hmm . Okay .Marketing: And I'm a marketing person . I wanna figure out how to sell them.Project Manager: Mm-hmm . And your name is ?Marketing: My name is Eileen .Project Manager: Okay.Industrial Designer: Yeah . Uh I'm Jeanne-Oui . Um uh my role is industrial designer and myresponsibilities are uh uh um deal with the {vocalsound} technical-functional designs and specificationsof user interface and dealing with user interface design .Project Manager: Very good . And as you alreadyknow I am Betty . I am the project manager for today . So why don't we look at the presentation{vocalsound} to see what we really are supposed to do . {vocalsound} Um .Marketing: Okay .ProjectManager: {vocalsound} Yes y opening , acquaintance , tool training {disfmarker} well , the tools are , Ithink , we already {disfmarker} I guess the tool is really our {disfmarker} the computer , as far as I cansee .Marketing: Mm-hmm .Project Manager: Uh we get ins each of us will get instructions and we'll take itfrom there . Project plan , that falls under the same heading pretty much . Um , I don't think we have anygreat discussion at this point .Marketing: No .Project Manager: Um . Here is what this thing should be .This thing we are gonna um uh design is a new remote control . Uh should be original {vocalsound} ,trendy , and , of course , user friendly .Marketing: Mm-hmm . {vocalsound} {vocalsound}ProjectManager: So maybe you wanna make some notes of that .Marketing: Okay .Project Manager: Okay?Marketing: Mm-hmm .Project Manager: All right . {vocalsound} Here is what the functional design issupposed to achieve . Um . That is it's gonna be individual work and then at the meeting we'll discusswhat uh we have come up with . The same goes for the conceptual design , there will be individual workwhic and then discussion afterwards . Detailed design , same thing basically .Marketing: Mm 'kay so{disfmarker} Three different types of design that we're gonna be concerned with okay .Project Manager:Mm-hmm . Mm-hmm .Marketing: Functional , conception and detailed .Project Manager: I can't writewith this thing . {vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound} Maybe we should redesign it .{vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound} Yes . {vocalsound}Industrial Designer:{vocalsound}Marketing: After we've finished the remote control we'll get to that .Project Manager:{vocalsound} Yeah , okay . All right ? Then , tool training try out the white board , participant can drawtheir favourite animal . Does anybody want to go and see how the white board works ? So that in case wehave to , in the next meeting , present something on the white board . You wanna go Eileen and{disfmarker}Marketing: Okay , I'll see what I can do .Project Manager: Whether you {disfmarker}without hanging yourself . {vocalsound}Marketing: See if I r See if I remember how to draw a kitty cat ora rabbit or something . {vocalsound}User Interface: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer:{vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager: And remember you have to press so it works.Marketing: So that it will record okay .Project Manager: Mm-hmm .Marketing: Um uh um traditional kittycat .Project Manager: {vocalsound} Fat , a fat cat . {vocalsound}User Interface: {vocalsound}Marketing:{vocalsound} I've a very fat cat .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}Project Manager:{vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound} And it likes to sit like that.Project Manager: Okay .Marketing: Okay .Project Manager: And you're Francine , right ? Would you likes like just to see um how it feels , so that you have a little idea ?User Interface: Yes , I'm Francina . Yes ,sure . {vocalsound}Project Manager: In {disfmarker}Marketing: Am I supposed to wipe off that or{disfmarker}Project Manager: No , no . No , that's okay .User Interface: No , Okay .Marketing: okay.Project Manager: I don't know , we'll get to that later .Marketing: Okay .User Interface: What should Idraw ? {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} {vocalsound} Snake .User Interface: I'm going todraw a snake . {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound} Okay"} {"doc_id":"doc_108","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: Uh fourth meeting . {vocalsound}User Interface: We have to do what ?ProjectManager: Some extra deciding .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} W what ? Alri alright . We'll see.Project Manager: {vocalsound} Well {disfmarker}User Interface: Oh .Project Manager: {gap} I'll showyou the notes again . Very interesting .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Project Manager: Well you'll youtwo will uh present us your prototype .Industrial Designer: Yeah .Project Manager: Then um{disfmarker} I guess that's your bit ? I I didn't s see anything about it ,Marketing: Yeah .ProjectManager: so {vocalsound} I already uh thought you uh you were {gap} to do that .Industrial Designer:{vocalsound}Project Manager: So the you're uh {gap} .Marketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager: I'llshow you how we're going to do with financing this uh design .User Interface: Mm .Industrial Designer:Yeah , that's important too . Yeah . {vocalsound}Project Manager: And then we'll evaluate , after afterwe have redesigned it .User Interface: {vocalsound} Bit late . {vocalsound}Project Manager: Because uhwell we'll see about the costs . Um we'll uh evaluate our p our uh production and then uh we can close.Industrial Designer: Alright .Project Manager: Well the finance uh we'll do later , so um firstly uh{vocalsound} I'll show you the notes . {vocalsound} I don't think it's very interesting . {vocalsound}UserInterface: I think it is .Project Manager: Oh nei . Uh no . {vocalsound} Alright . This is copy paste . So{disfmarker}Industrial Designer: From me of course , yeah .Project Manager: Of course . You had somevery strange layout .Industrial Designer: Well from us all , yeah , from all of us . Yeah . {vocalsound} It'sa nice chorus , yeah .Project Manager: {vocalsound} Well um {disfmarker}User Interface:{vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager: We ge we went through the agenda ,IndustrialDesigner: {vocalsound}Project Manager: and well we had some uh some presentations from you three .And uh I summarised what you said to us . So uh I don't think it's very interesting and go through itagain .Industrial Designer: Repeat it yeah . Alright .Project Manager: So uh {disfmarker} This is what wedecided . It's also copy paste from what we made together . So we still know that .Marketing: Okay.Project Manager: And then uh we can we can uh use the time better . Well uh next you two will uhpresent uh the pot prototype for us .Industrial Designer: Alright , we both uh will ?Project Manager: Yeah.Industrial Designer: Or one of us will ?User Interface: {vocalsound} Alright .Industrial Designer: Uh{disfmarker}User Interface: No you go and I'll uh supplement you .Industrial Designer: Alright . If Imake mistakes uh you'll uh {disfmarker}User Interface: {vocalsound} Yeah .Project Manager: Correct .{vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Right . Uh well this is our design .Marketing: {vocalsound}IndustrialDesigner: Uh it's pretty uh much uh like uh Mike draw uh drew uh the in the during the last meeting .With uh the different uh perspectives of it . Uh we'll begin uh with the front . We have of course uh thethe round shape uh the round uh basic shape . Um with uh the upper part being the front . Th So there'sthis part um {vocalsound} which is made of hard plastic , the front . And uh we're we're using differentcolours . Of course for the launch we use the basic ugly colours ,Project Manager: {vocalsound} Yeah.Industrial Designer: and later we'll put out uh more interesting covers with different patterns andpictures and everything .Project Manager: Mm-hmm .Industrial Designer: But basically , different colours, bright colours not black , too dark . Fancy colours . {vocalsound} Um then we have uh the lower part{vocalsound} of the of the device . Uh which is of course um part of the back actually , because it's alsotitanium . You can see it also on the on the on the side view , that only this part is the front , and the restof it , the under uh the under side uh of it , yeah , the back side and the lower part of the front is ofcourse titanium made of titanium , and has the titanium colour of course , the look . Um then we have uhon back on the front uh the logo in the upper corner ,Project Manager: Mm .Industrial Designer: uh whichis uh made uh which is also part of the back , part of the titanium uh titanium part .User Interface: Yeah ,it's a double R_ , but {disfmarker}Industrial Designer: Yeah ?User Interface: It's a double R_ .IndustrialDesigner: It's a double R_ . Yeah the logo {disfmarker}User Interface: But {vocalsound} it's very difficultto to draw that in {disfmarker} Yeah .Project Manager: Yeah , alright .Industrial Designer: Uh uh it'sdifficult to draw so small , but it's our double R_ uh logo is in there .Project Manager: Okay . Yeah.Industrial Designer: Um so that's the logo in the upper lef uh right corner . Then we have the buttons ."} {"doc_id":"doc_109","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: Okay . So , now um , {vocalsound} last time . Can you uh {vocalsound} push thebutton ? {vocalsound} One time please . So {disfmarker} {vocalsound} I'm still the secretary . Now uh ,I ask you to presentate the prototype . One of your {disfmarker} you two .User Interface:{vocalsound}Industrial Designer: I don't care . {vocalsound}User Interface: Oh this , you mean ?ProjectManager: Yes . The prototype .Industrial Designer: Huh ?User Interface: Yes , well uh this is it .{vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound} This is it .Project Manager: Well, thank you . Uh , now {disfmarker}User Interface: It's uh it's uh it's yellow . And uh , this is rubber . Andand and this too . TheProject Manager: {vocalsound}User Interface: the sides .Project Manager: Yes.User Interface: And the rest is hard plastic . And uh {disfmarker} We uh we had some uh {vocalsound}{disfmarker} We had a new idea {vocalsound} that that this can uh can be uh uh turned inside.Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}User Interface: And then it covers the {disfmarker} thesebuttonsProject Manager: Okay .User Interface: until here or something .Marketing: Yes .User Interface:And then you can still use the the power button and the mute and the the joystick .Project Manager:Mm-hmm .User Interface: So , you can still operate uh all the things . Because you don't always use themenu . And then it can break .Project Manager: Okay . And the buttons ?User Interface: Uh , well uh{disfmarker}Industrial Designer: Big . {vocalsound}User Interface: Big buttons . And everything is blue ,except the power button . And the mute . Of uh {disfmarker} yeah , and the mute and the the otherbutton . {vocalsound} Yeah . Channel higher channel button .Industrial Designer: {gap} .Marketing:Yeah .Project Manager: And the joystick is for the volume and the channels .User Interface: Uh , yes .Yes ,Industrial Designer: Yes .User Interface: that's uh {disfmarker} {vocalsound}Industrial Designer:{vocalsound}User Interface: Very obvious .Project Manager: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Up ischannel up . Down is channel down . To the right is volume up . To the left is volume down .UserInterface: Yeah .Project Manager: Okay , so if joystick and L_C_D_ . What's the R_R_ {gap} d{vocalsound}User Interface: R_R_'s the l the the the the company uh logo .Industrial Designer: TheR_R_ ?Project Manager: Okay . Very good .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Project Manager: So , wehave {disfmarker}Marketing: That's on the rub rubber part .User Interface: Uh , yes . Yes . That's abouthere .Project Manager: So , what they say on the side is put fashion there . Yes . It's good .UserInterface: Oh .Project Manager: So , that's it . That's prototype .Marketing: Yeah ?Project Manager: Now, the finance . {vocalsound} We don't know if it's {disfmarker} th it {disfmarker} if it's okay .Marketing:Alright . {vocalsound}Project Manager: So , I'm gonna look .Marketing: Do we {disfmarker}ProjectManager: We have {disfmarker}Marketing: Do we change the {disfmarker}Project Manager: Sorry?Marketing: Do we change the the order ? Or are we going to uh ev evaluate it first ?Project Manager:Finance is um {disfmarker} Yeah it's {disfmarker} No , first uh {disfmarker} Yes . We have to evaluatethe product yet .Marketing: Okay .Project Manager: Sorry .Marketing: That's uh um {disfmarker} {gap}That can be none . Um , we gonna do the evaluation now , together . But I have uh a introduction how itworks . So , it will come up . Uh-oh . Okay . Um , yeah . Well , we uh {disfmarker} uh , I have umthinked a few evaluation uh criterias , uh based on um our marketing strategy , on uh the latest trends ,on user preferences . Uh , we have a seven point scale from uh true , as well . To false , seven ? And onbase of each c uh criteria , we need to um give a rating . We can uh {disfmarker} Well , it look like this .But we gonna uh do it here , they said . {vocalsound} So , you hope found out how to do it with a Worddocument . Yeah . Okay , yeah . Yeah . Um , well uh we have the Word documentProject Manager:{vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Project Manager: Criteria .Marketing: You {disfmarker}{gap} So we open up that blank here . Um {disfmarker} {vocalsound} Think I can {disfmarker} Uh ,what this just an example . So , this not very important . But um , if I can get a number in here . Hmm.Project Manager: No , it's okay .Marketing: Well , uh we can't do that .Industrial Designer: I'll get it.Project Manager: Oh , it's okay .Marketing: Um , so uh you have to think of it as uh the remote control istechno technologically innovative . Uh , and then we have to uh agree on the rating together . And in theend , we will c uh count an average of all rating . The first uh on each item .Project Manager: What do"} {"doc_id":"doc_110","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: {vocalsound} So um nice to see you again . Uh . So , uh . Tod uh for this meeting I willtake the notes and do the minutes . Uh so we will see our three presentations . Um we will start with theuh Manager Expert wi who will talk about uh user re requirements , whats user needs and what it desirefor this devi device .Marketing: Okay , can I have the laptop over here , or ?Project Manager: Yep . Oh , Idon't think so . I think you have to come here .Marketing: Okay . Have to get up . {vocalsound}ProjectManager: I dunno . I think it should stay .Marketing: Excuse me .Industrial Designer: Yeah , that's it.Project Manager: {gap}Marketing: {vocalsound} Okay .Project Manager: Should stay in the square here. {vocalsound}Marketing: Okay .Project Manager: Oh , maybe .Marketing: Okay , so basically I'm gonnapresent some findings of a study we conducted uh into uh what users want in this remote control .ProjectManager: Oh , you can put it here . Oh that's okay , it's jusMarketing: Um so first of all we {disfmarker}what we did is we um conducted a an experiment with a hundred test subjects . Um we put them in a inour um usability laboratory and got them to , you know , um play with remote controls , and also tocomplete , after they'd done that , to complete a questionnaire uh to tell us what they like and what theydon't like in remote controls . {vocalsound} {vocalsound} So basically um the major things we found outwas that um basically users don't like the look and feel of of most remote controls that are currently onthe market . Um they , you know , seventy five percent of the people we we uh did the experiments on ,found that rem remote the remote controls that they'd used in the past were ugly . Completely ugly . Umthey they didn't match the operating behaviour of the user , that is , you know , the the way users useremote controls when they're watching T_V_ . Um , that the layout of the remote controls didn't matchthey way that they used it . Um and thirdly they say that w half of the users that we um tested said thatthey only used ten percent of the buttons that uh are on remote controls . Um so we collect we also somecollected some usage statistics uh based on how these test subjects were using their remote control . Andfrom this we basically came up with the figure that the channel buttons , the channel selection buttonsare the most {disfmarker} by far the most used buttons on the remote control . Um and you can seethey're used a hundred and sixty eight times per hour on average , um , while the user's watching T_V_.Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound}Marketing: Um the closest button thatwas used , well the cl the button that was used that was closest to the channel button was the teletextbutton , um which was used fourteen times per hour , followed by the volume button , which was fourtimes per hour , um , all the other , all the other um buttons , such as ch um audio and picture selectionum configuration buttons and things were used , you know , l approx well less than or equal to one timesper hour . Um we also asked users um which buttons had the most importance to them , you know ,which which buttons they felt were the most important buttons on on the remote control . And basicallythey came {disfmarker} they said the channel , volume , and power buttons had the highest relevance tousers , um note that only power was very infrequently used , it only had a b a a fr usage frequency ofabout one times per hour , but users ranked it as having a very very high relevance . Um and the audioand picture settings had a very {disfmarker} that well the users thought that um w the audio and picturesettings were very uh weren't very important to them um , and they used them very infrequently a aswell . {vocalsound} So we asked users what what um frustrates them the most about um current remotecontrols . And fifty percent of the users said that uh what frustrates them is losing the remote control umsomewhere in the room and not being able to find it . Um {vocalsound} they also said that it um it takesa lot of time to learn a new remote control , especially when there's many buttons and it's a , you know ,a c a a unintuitive interface . Um and then thirdly , they {disfmarker} some users commented on the factthat the the you know the way that you have to hold and press buttons on a remote control ar are badand um cause u repetitive strain injury . {vocalsound} We also asked some users about some specificfeatures that they'd like to see in the {disfmarker} on the remote control . In particular , do they want anL_C_D_ d display , and secondly , do they think speech recognition uh is a useful feature to have on aremote control .Project Manager: {vocalsound}Marketing: Um basically our findings are that um amongsta younger age groups uh the answer is umv overwhelmingly yes . They want these features , they want"} {"doc_id":"doc_111","qid":"","text":"Lynne Neagle AM: Good morning, everyone. Welcome to the Children, Young People and EducationCommittee. We've received apologies for absence from Suzy Davies and there is no substitute. JanetFinch-Saunders is joining us from the Assembly offices in Colwyn Bay via video conference. Can I askMembers if there are any declarations of interest, please? No. Okay. Item 2, then, this morning is apost-legislative scrutiny session on the Higher Education (Wales) Act 2015. I'm very pleased to welcomeKirsty Williams AM, Minister for Education, and Huw Morris, who is director of the skills, higher educationand lifelong learning group in Welsh Government. Thank you, both, for attending, and thank you for thepaper that you provided in advance. I will just start the questioning by asking whether you are planningto repeal the 2015 higher education Act, or will it be amended by the post-compulsory education andtraining Bill?Kirsty Williams AM: Thank you very much, Chair. I'm very pleased to be with the committeeagain this morning, although it's in slightly unusual circumstances. As a piece of post-legislative scrutiny,this was a Bill that was taken forward by a different Minister in a different administration, but I think it isreally valuable work in the context of the question you just set out: what can we learn from theimplementation of this piece of legislation as we move forward with our reform journey and with thisGovernment and my proposals to introduce a new commission for tertiary education? There is much, atthe moment, that lies within the 2015 Act that we will look to bring forward into the new legislation, butthere are certainly experiences—and I'm sure we'll come on to some of the evidence that has beenreceived about what's worked, what perhaps hasn't worked—that we all want to reflect on and be mindfulof as we take forward the new Bill, including the report of this committee as part of it. So, it is ourintention that this Bill will be superceded by the new PCETR Bill.Lynne Neagle AM: Okay, thank you.We've got a series of questions now from Siân Gwenllian.Sian Gwenllian AM: Good morning. Do youbelieve that the Act has fulfilled all the Government's objectives? Where are the weaknesses?KirstyWilliams AM: Diolch yn fawr, Siân. As I've said, it's a bit difficult to place myself in the mind of theprevious Minister when this legislation was first envisaged and then taken through. You'll be aware thatthere were four main reasons for the introduction of the Bill: around regulation of institutions in Wales;safeguarding the contribution made to public good arising from Welsh Government's financial support forthe sector; maintaining a focus on fair access; and preserving and protecting the principle of institutionalautonomy. I think the evidence that has been received by the committee to date shows that there aredifferent views about the effectiveness of whether all four strategic aims have been achieved. I thinkthose strategic aims are still really, really important and certainly will underpin our thought process goingforward, but we have to recognise the higher education and research Bill across the border in England,the implementation of new student support measures in Wales, as well as the report that was done byEllen Hazelkorn, I think, means it is appropriate that we move forward with different proposals, not justregulation of the HE sector but the post-compulsory sector as a whole. We will look to see what we cando to strengthen or whether there is more that we need to do to achieve those four objectives, because Ithink those four objectives are still very, very relevant. But we have to have legislation now that is fit forthe circumstances we currently find ourselves in and, hopefully, futureproofs us for how we want to seethe sector develop in the future.Sian Gwenllian AM: Do you feel perhaps that the legislation itself hasn'tbeen strong enough, and that you then have had to drive some of these objectives through the annualremit letter, rather than through legislation, and that's why the strengthening is required?Kirsty WilliamsAM: Certainly, I see the remit letter as a really, really important way in which national priorities and thepriorities of an elected Government can be clearly stated, communicated to the Higher Education FundingCouncil for Wales, and then HEFCW use their powers to ensure that that happens. So, certainly, I see theremit letter as being a very important mechanism for ensuring, as I said, that those national priorities areclearly articulated, and then change happens.Sian Gwenllian AM: Has the current legislation been framedaround institutional autonomy so that it's not possible for institutions to fulfil any national outcomes, andis that going to be an element of the new Bill?Kirsty Williams AM: Well, certainly, the 2015 Act containsnumerous provisions that protect universities' privileges and autonomy. And that's really important, and"} {"doc_id":"doc_112","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: Okay . Right . Conceptual design meeting . Right . Okay , so {disfmarker} Right wellum from the last meeting {vocalsound} I was trying to send you the minutes , but uh it didn't work outtoo well , so maybe in sort of um quick summary of the last uh meeting , I can quickly give you what wewhat we had .User Interface: {vocalsound}Project Manager: Uh right , so {disfmarker} Wishing I hadn'tclosed the damn {disfmarker} Right so we had the fact that we're gonna have the the logo uh thecompany logo in its uh colour scheme incorporated onto the the device the remote device . We had uhmade our decisions about uh made our decisions about uh the device itself , that it was gonna be simpleto make it uh enable us to complete the project in time . We're gonna have uh effectively two pages , afront page which had the uh features that the uh the customers most wanted , and then the uh thebackup features on the second page so that it could uh meet the technical requirements . And thecustomers wouldn't have to look at them too often , only as and when required . So . So basically whatdecisions uh have we uh made ? Uh have there been any uh changes ?Industrial Designer: I think we allhave a presentation again ,Project Manager: Right .Industrial Designer: so if we go through those andthen umMarketing: Yeah .Project Manager: Three presentation , yeah .Industrial Designer: {gap} . ShallI go first again ? {gap}Project Manager: So {disfmarker} Yeah , fine .Marketing: Okay .IndustrialDesigner: I see {gap} this a little more smoothly than the last one . {vocalsound}Project Manager:{vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Okay right , let's get started . Um basically the uh for the {disfmarker}Um I'll {gap} back actually . For the components design , um next step is basically the the way theremote's gonna work is still the same idea as before . We still have the user interface which is all thebuttons we're gonna incorporate . Then there is a chip and still the sender . So um yes {gap} includingthe power s supply as well . Um I'll go on to my findings in each of these areas . Uh first in the powersupply , we have the option of just the standard battery , um . {vocalsound} There's a dynamo . Any ofyou think of kind of like the the old torches which you wind up {gap} um . There's a kinetic option , whichif any of you've seen those new watches which you kind of you power up by waving around , um it justrequires a small amount of movement which would mean the batteries wouldn't have to be replaced . Umthat's one option ,Marketing: Mm-hmm .Industrial Designer: but I think that was gonna cost a little more. And then there's solar cells . Um as a final option . For the buttons , we have um an integrated pushbutton , which is {disfmarker} Oh just to say all all these are um supplied by Real Reaction . So I guessfor the ease of for quickness and ease we should take them from at least like one of these options.Project Manager: Okay .Industrial Designer: Um so for the buttons there's an integrated push button ,which I guess is just the same as the standard ones . This says it's uh similar to uh the button on themouse for a normal {disfmarker} for like uh like modern computer . Um there's a scroll wheel which is{disfmarker} you know the new mouse has just got like the centre section which you can scroll up anddown , which may be for the volume .Project Manager: Mm-hmm .Industrial Designer: You could do dothat .Marketing: Mm-hmm .Industrial Designer: Um one issue for the buttons is , depending on whichmaterial we use , if we use rubber buttons then it requires a rubber case , so we have to take that intoconsideration . Um moving on to the printed sProject Manager: What would be the cost do do we know?Industrial Designer: Um that's on the next {disfmarker}Project Manager: {gap}Industrial Designer: I thI think the there wasn't too much difference in the cost , that that related to the actual buttons , but itdoes affect the printed circuit board . Um which is the next section . Basically for the circuit board whichis the middle , it's just {disfmarker} see it down there the chips like the like the workings of the actualum of the remote .Project Manager: Mm-hmm .Industrial Designer: The firm supplies a simple , a regularand an advanced um circuit board . And there's different prices according to each . So if we've got thescroll wheel for one of the buttons , that would require a slightly more advanced circuit board than if wejust had a standard um push button .Project Manager: Mm-hmm .Industrial Designer: Um one final thingwe came up with was some information on the speech recognition . There's a small unit available throughthe company um which obviously would be an extra cost , but it wouldn't affect the size of the remote toomuch . Um and I guess that would require a more advanced circuit board , so there is an extra price in"} {"doc_id":"doc_113","qid":"","text":"Grad D: Channel one .PhD G: Test .PhD E: Hello .Grad D: Channel three .PhD G: Test .PhD A: Uh - oh.Professor F: So you think we 're going now , yes ? OK , good . Alright Going again Uh {disfmarker} Sowe 're gonna go around as before , and uh do {disfmarker} do our digits . Uh transcript one three oneone dash one three three zero . {comment} three two three {comment} four seven six five {comment}five three one six two four one {comment} six seven {comment} seven {comment} eight {comment}nine zero nine four zero zero three {comment} zero one five eight {comment} one seven three five three{comment} two six eight zero {comment} three six two four three zero seven {comment} four{comment} five zero six nine four {comment} seven four {comment} eight five seven {comment} ninesix one five {comment} O seven eight O two {comment} zero nine six zero four zero zero {comment}one {comment} two {comment} Uh {disfmarker} Yeah , you don't actually n need to say the name.Grad C: OK , {vocalsound} this is Barry Chen and I am reading transcriptProfessor F: That 'll probablybe bleeped out .Grad C: OK .Professor F: So . That 's if these are anonymized , but {vocalsound} Yeah{disfmarker}Grad C: Oh . {comment} OK .Professor F: uh {disfmarker} I mean {disfmarker} not thatthere 's anything defamatory about uh {disfmarker} eight five seven or {vocalsound} or anything ,butGrad C: OK .Professor F: Uh , anyway . Uh {disfmarker} so here 's what I have for {disfmarker} I{disfmarker} I was just jotting down things I think th w that we should do today . Uh {disfmarker} Thisis what I have for an agenda so far Um , We should talk a little bit about the plans for the uh{disfmarker} the field trip next week . Uh {disfmarker} a number of us are doing a field trip to uh Uh{disfmarker} OGI And uh {disfmarker} mostly uh First though about the logistics for it . Then maybelater on in the meeting we should talk about what we actually you know , might accomplish . Uh{disfmarker}Grad C: OK .Professor F: Uh , in and {pause} kind of go around {disfmarker} see whatpeople have been doing {disfmarker} talk about that , {pause} a r progress report . Um , Essentially .Um {disfmarker} And then uh {disfmarker} Another topic I had was that uh {disfmarker} uh{disfmarker} Uh {disfmarker} Dave here had uh said uh \" Give me something to do . \" And I{disfmarker} I have {disfmarker} I have uh {disfmarker} failed so far in doing that . And so maybe wecan discuss that a little bit . If we find some holes in some things that {disfmarker} that {disfmarker}someone could use some help with , he 's {disfmarker} he 's volunteering to help .PhD A: I 've got tomove a bunch of furniture .Professor F: OK , always count on a {vocalsound} serious comment from thatcorner . So , um , uh , and uh , then uh , talk a little bit about {disfmarker} about disks and resource{disfmarker} resource issues that {disfmarker} that 's starting to get worked out . And then , anythingelse anybody has that isn't in that list ? Uh {disfmarker}Grad D: I was just wondering , does this meanthe battery 's dying and I should change it ?Professor F: Uh I think that means the battery 's O K .{disfmarker}PhD A: Let me see .Professor F: d {disfmarker} do youGrad D: Oh OK , so thPhD A: Yeah ,that 's good . You 're alright ?Grad D: Cuz it 's full .Professor F: Yeah . Yeah .Grad D: Alright .Professor F:Yeah . Yeah . It looks full of electrons . OK . Plenty of electrons left there . OK , so , um , uh . OK , so , uh, I wanted to start this with this mundane thing . Um {disfmarker} Uh {disfmarker} I {disfmarker} I{disfmarker} it was {disfmarker} it was kind of my bright idea to have us take a plane that leaves atseven twenty in the morning .Grad C: Oh , yeah , that 's right .Professor F: Um . Uh {vocalsound} this isuh {disfmarker} The reason I did it uh was because otherwise for those of us who have to come back thesame day it is really not much of a {disfmarker} of a visit . Uh {disfmarker} So um the issue is how{disfmarker} how {disfmarker} how would we ever accomplish that ? Uh {disfmarker} what{disfmarker} what {disfmarker} what part of town do you live in ?Grad C: Um , I live in , um , the cornerof campus . The , um , southeast corner .Professor F: OK . OK , so would it be easier {disfmarker} thoseof you who are not , you know , used to this area , it can be very tricky to get to the airport at{disfmarker} at uh , you know , six thirty . Um . So . Would it be easier for you if you came here and Idrove you ? Yeah ? Yeah , yeah , OK .PhD G: Yeah , perhaps , yeah .Grad C: Yeah . Sure .PhD E: Yeah.Professor F: OK , so if {disfmarker} if everybody can get here at six .PhD E: At six .Professor F: Yeah , I'm afraid we need to do that to get there on time .Grad C: Six , OK .Professor F: Yeah , so . Oh boy ."} {"doc_id":"doc_114","qid":"","text":"Lynne Neagle AM: Good afternoon, everyone. Welcome to the first virtual meeting of the Children, YoungPeople and Education Committee. In accordance with Standing Order 34.19, I determine that the publicare excluded from the committee's meeting, in order to protect public health. In accordance withStanding Order 34.21, notice of this decision was included in the agenda for this meeting, which waspublished last Friday. This meeting is, however, being broadcast live on Senedd.tv, with all participantsjoining via video conference. A record of the proceedings will be published as usual. Aside from theprocedural adaptation relating to conducting proceedings remotely, all other Standing Order requirementsfor committees remain in place. The meeting is bilingual, and simultaneous translation from Welsh toEnglish is available. Can I remind all participants that the microphones will be controlled centrally, sothere's no need to turn them on and off individually? Can I ask whether there are any declarations ofinterest, please? No. Okay. Thank you. Can I just then, again, note for the record that, if, for any reason,I drop out of the meeting, the committee has agreed that Dawn Bowden AM will temporarily chair while Itry to rejoin? Item 2, then, this afternoon is an evidence session with the Welsh Government on theimpact of the coronavirus epidemic on education in Wales. I'm very pleased to welcome Kirsty WilliamsAM, Minister for Education, Steve Davies, director of the education directorate, and Huw Morris, who isgroup director, skills, higher education and lifelong learning. Can I welcome you all and thank you forattending? Minister, I understand you'd like to make a short opening statement.Kirsty Williams AM:Thank you very much, Lynne. And indeed, if I could just begin by, once again, putting on the record mygratitude to everyone who is helping us get through this pandemic. There are a vast number of peoplewho are keeping our school hubs open, looking after vulnerable children, and the children of key workers.Because of them, and their efforts, those key workers are able to carry on their critical roles inresponding to COVID-19. I am extremely proud of the way that members of the school community havegone above and beyond. They have kept their schools open out of hours, over the weekends, on bankholidays, and Easter. And it is really heartening and humbling to see the way that they have responded tothis crisis. And there are teachers, teaching assistants, and many others, who are helping our childrenand their parents to keep learning at home. I know that home schooling isn't easy, so I want to say alsothank you to parents and carers for their efforts at this time. By keeping their children at home, they arehelping us to keep people safe, and reducing pressure on our education system, and on our NHS. Be in nodoubt, we are facing many challenges because of this pandemic. My primary concern is, and always willbe, the health and well-being of our children, of our young people, and of all the staff in our educationsettings. And I am very grateful to everyone who is supporting us in these endeavours. Thank you verymuch—diolch yn fawr. And I'm now happy to answer questions that members of the committee may havethis afternoon.Lynne Neagle AM: Thank you very much, Minister. I'm sure that the committee echoes theheartfelt thanks you have just given then. The first questions we've got this afternoon are from HefinDavid.Hefin David AM: Good afternoon, Minister. With regard to your five principles, which you've set outtoday, regarding when schools will reopen, they're very clear that they require a judgment from you. Socould you outline when you think that schools might reopen?Kirsty Williams AM: Thank you, Hefin. I amvery clear that schools will move to a new phase—because, already, schools are open in many settings;we will move to a new phase when it is safe to do so and when I have advice from the chief medicalofficer and the chief scientific officer that it is safe to do so. I have made very clear in my statement thatthat is not imminent. I know that in some cases there has been speculation that a return to normal couldbe with us quite shortly. I'm clear that a return to normal is not imminent, and therefore I'm not in aposition to give a date as to when we will see more schools opening up to more children.Hefin David AM:Have you been given any indication at all by the chief medical officer as to when, in the longer term, itmight be?Kirsty Williams AM: No, I have not been given a date. What I have done today is publish theprinciples that will aid me in, as you said, me making a decision. So, clearly, we will be relying on theadvice of our medical and scientific advisers, but the principles are very clear. Firstly, we will need toconsider any decision to have more children returning to school in the context of the safety and the"} {"doc_id":"doc_115","qid":"","text":"Lynne Neagle AM: Good morning, everyone, and welcome to this morning's Children, Young People andEducation Committee. We've received no apologies for absence. Can I ask Members who are present ifthey wish to declare any interests? Okay, thank you. Item 2 this morning is our final evidence session forour inquiry into targeted funding to improve educational outcomes. I'm very pleased to welcome KirstyWilliams AM, Cabinet Secretary for Education; Steve Davies, director of the education directorate; andRuth Conway, deputy director, support for learners division. Welcome to all of you, and thank you foryour attendance and also for the paper that you've provided in advance. If you're happy, we'll go straightinto questions, and the first questions are from Llyr Gruffydd.Llyr Gruffydd AM: Bore da. I just want tostart by asking some questions around the targeting of the pupil development grant because, clearly,we've had a lot of evidence around this apparent blurring of eligibility to an extent. I'm just wonderinghow comfortable you are that the money is being targeted appropriately because, clearly, it's beingtargeted more widely than just those eligible for free school meals, from some of the evidence we've had,but also that it seems to be predominantly focused on low-attaining frees—pupils who are eligible for freeschool meals.Kirsty Williams AM: Thank you, Llyr. I think it's important to be absolutely clear that when itcomes to individual interventions, those individual interventions should only be targeted at those childrenwho are eligible for free school meals. But in some cases, schools may use their PDG funding to provide auniversal intervention, but we would want to—in challenge advisers' discussions in schools—we'd want tohave evidence that that universal intervention would have a disproportionate effect on the outcomes forchildren on free school meals. So, for instance, if I give you an example in your own region, Llyr: atBrynteg County Primary School in Wrexham, if you look at that primary school in Wrexham, their resultsfor free-school-meal children at the end of their primary school period in school are equivalent to theirnon-free-school-meal counterparts. So, there is no differentiation in those results. One of the things thatthey've used their PDG for is to really focus on the concept of growth mindset in school. So, that's auniversal thing that they've trained all the teachers in, but what we know is that that has adisproportionate effect on those children who are on free school meals. So, if you're familiar with theconcept of a growth mindset, it's about really challenging learners to think that, 'I can do things. Ifsometimes I fail, I pick myself up, I'm more resilient.' Now, that has been, as I said, trained to all theteachers in the school—it's an ethos for the whole school—but we have seen that the impact on thefree-school-meal children has been even greater, and now they're at the same level. So, that's theimportant distinction. Individual intervention per child has to be targeted at those children who areeligible for free school meals, but sometimes a school will employ a whole-school approach to train theirstaff, for instance, and that, then, has to demonstrate it has a disproportionate effect on free schoolmeals. So, growth mindset; it may be attachment disorder training for staff, for instance, where we knowit's of benefit to everybody, but will have particular benefits for that cohort of students. With regard tomore able and talented, you know, Llyr, that this is an area of concern for me, generally, within theWelsh education system; that we've not been particularly good at identifying, supporting and drivingattainment for those children. I'm absolutely clear that PDG needs to be used for those children who areeligible to drive potential, whatever the potential of that child is, including more able and talented. Andagain, I'll give you an example that has been seen as good practice in Pembrokeshire: a window on theworld bus, again paid for by schools. I don't know if you're aware of it.Llyr Gruffydd AM: We've heardabout that.Kirsty Williams AM: Oh, you've heard about it; well, it's a really good example the window onthe world. And, again, that's very much targeted at raising aspirations and giving children who are moreable and talented, who are eligible for PDG, those experiences, and to really push them. So, yes, I'mabsolutely clear that PDG shouldn't just be seen to be getting individuals to the average. For thosechildren who are more able and talented, it should be used to support them—Llyr Gruffydd AM: And weall share those aspirations, I'm sure, and you pointed to examples of good practice, but of course, it's notuniversal, is it, so what I'm asking is: do you think that the guidance is sufficient as it is? Do you thinkthat there's a great enough awareness of how the PDG should be used at the coalface? And also, are you"} {"doc_id":"doc_116","qid":"","text":"Grad C: Hmm . Testing channel two .Grad E: Two , two . Grad C: Two .Grad E: Two . Oh .Grad D: Hello?Grad B: Hmm ? Yeah Thank You . OK Well , so Ralf and Tilman are here .Professor F: OK . Great . Great.Grad B: Made it safely .Professor F: So the {disfmarker} what w we h have been doing i they would likeus all to read these digits . But we don't all read them but a couple people read them .PhD A: OK.Professor F: Uh , wanna give them all with German accents today or {disfmarker} ?Grad B: Sure.Professor F: OK .Grad B: OK and the way you do it is you just read the numbers not as uh each single ,so just like I do it .PhD A: Mm - hmm .Grad B: OK . First you read the transcript number . Turn .Grad D:OK , uh {disfmarker} What 's {disfmarker}Professor F: OK . Let 's be done with this .PhD A: OK.Professor F: OK . this is Ami , who {disfmarker} And this is Tilman and Ralf .PhD A: Hi . Uh - huh . Niceto meet you .Grad D: Hi .Professor F: Hi . OK . So we 're gonna try to finish by five so people who want tocan go hear Nancy Chang 's talk , uh downstairs .PhD A: Hmm .Professor F: And you guys are g givingtalks on tomorrow and Wednesday lunch times ,PhD A: Yes .Grad D: Mmm .Professor F: right ? That 'sgreat . OK so , do y do you know what we 're gonna do ?Grad B: I thought two things uh we 'll introduceourselves and what we do . And um we already talked with Andreas , Thilo and David and some lines ofcode were already written today and almost tested and just gonna say we have um again the recognizerto parser thing where we 're working on and that should be no problem and then that can be sort ofdeveloped uh as needed when we get {disfmarker} enter the tourism domain . em we have talked thismorning with the {disfmarker} with Tilman about the generator .PhD A: SGrad B: and um There one ofour diligent workers has to sort of volunteer to look over Tilman 's shoulder while he is changing thegrammars to EnglishPhD A: Mm - hmm .Grad B: because w we have {disfmarker} we face two ways .Either we do a syllable concatenating um grammar for the English generation which is sort of startingfrom scratch and doing it the easy way , or we simply adopt the ah um more in - depth um style that isimplemented in the German system and um are then able not only to produce strings but also thesyntactic parse uh not parse not the syntactic tree that is underneath in the syntactic structure which isthe way we decided we were gonna go because A , it 's easier in the beginningPhD A: Mm - hmm .GradB: and um it does require some {disfmarker} some knowledge of {disfmarker} of those grammars and{disfmarker} and {disfmarker} and some ling linguistic background . But um it shouldn't be a problemfor anyone .Professor F: OK So That sounds good . Johno , are you gonna have some time t to do that uhw with these guys ?Grad E: Sure .Professor F: cuz y you 're the grammar maven .Grad E: OK .ProfessorF: I mean it makes sense ,Grad E: Yeah .Professor F: doesn't it ? Yeah Good . OK . So , I think that 'sprobably the {disfmarker} the right way to do that . And an Yeah , so I {disfmarker} I actually wanna fto find out about it too , but I may not have time to get in .Grad B: the {disfmarker} the ultimate goal isthat before they leave we {disfmarker} we can run through the entire system input through output on atleast one or two sample things . And um and by virtue of doing that then in this case Johno will haveacquired the knowledge of how to extend it . Ad infinitum . When needed , if needed , when wanted andso forth .Professor F: OK that sounds great .Grad B: And um also um Ralf has hooked up with David andyou 're gonna continue either all through tonight or tomorrow on whatever to get the er parser interfaceworking .Grad D: Mmm .Grad B: They are thinning out and thickening out lattices and doing this kind ofstuff to see what works best .Grad D: Mmm , yep .Professor F: Great . So , you guys enjoy your weekend?PhD A: Yes , very much so .Grad D: Yeah , very muchProfessor F: OK , before {disfmarker} before yougot put to work ?Grad D: YeahProfessor F: Great . OK , so that 's {disfmarker} Sort of one branch is toget us caught up on what 's going on . Also of course it would be really nice to know what the plans are ,in addition to what 's sort of already in code .PhD A: Yes .Professor F: and we can d I dunno w w wasthere uh a time when we were set up to do that ? It probably will work better if we do it later in the week, after {pause} we actually understand uh better what 's going on .PhD A: Yes .Grad D: Hmm .PhD A:Yeah .Professor F: So when do you guys leave ?PhD A: Um we 're here through Sunday ,Grad D: OhPhDA: so All through Friday would be fine .Professor F: Oh , OK , so {disfmarker} OK , So {disfmarker} soanyt we 'll find a time later in the week to uh get together and talk about {pause} your understanding of"} {"doc_id":"doc_117","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: Okay . Hello everyone . {vocalsound} {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Hi .UserInterface: Hi .Marketing: Hi .Project Manager: Um how uh how we doing ?Industrial Designer: Yeah ,good .Project Manager: Uh first we going uh over the minutes of the last meeting , more or less .UserInterface: Mm-hmm .Project Manager: Um in the last meeting uh the marketing manager had presenteduh her method of working , meaning gathering i suggestions from everyone to see how she best couldmarket uh this this product at the {disfmarker} within the budget uh that was given . Uh in general{vocalsound} the idea is that it should be something that is not difficult to use . Um it's also an item thatpeople lose a lot . So we should address that . And , of course , it should be something s s that is verysimple to use . In addition to that to make it sell , of course , uh the marketing manager w wishes that itbe very attractive ,Marketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager: or like she says put some sizzle into it inone way or another so that the people are buying it now because , in particular with smaller items , that'sa very important fact , 'cause um if they say , well , I go home and think about it , that won't work . Umalso mentioned was it should be uh {disfmarker} it should have a very short learning curve . And maybeit could be sold by using a slogan .Industrial Designer: Hmm .Project Manager: {vocalsound} Ourtechnical manager has then said that she feels it should have a chipMarketing: {vocalsound}ProjectManager: that has infra-red bits and it has an interface controls w interface that controls the chip .Therefore , messages uh will be controlled in the same manner . There should be extra features like lidbuttons , maybe a beep . If too many buttons are pressed , mm uh uh child lock um and uh maybe adisplay clock so that people could um {disfmarker} you could see the time , you know , what show theywant to watch . Also mentioned was uh maybe different shapes . So the components of the thing shouldbe button , bulbs , infra infra-red bulbs , battery , chips , wires , and maybe some kind of a holder uh forthe for the uh item . Francino who is our umUser Interface: Interface designer .Project Manager:interface designer um uh has mentioned that the {disfmarker} that it , of course , should have an on-offbutton , and also has mentioned an interesting feature that it should have maybe a channel lock .Particularly with maybe small children that they couldn't uh watch a channel that is undesirable . Itshould be compact . Her personal favourite was it should be T-shaped . And maybe have an anaralarm-clock . And the material should possibly be not of non-allergic nature . Uh the different systems uhthat exist are infra-red or radio-waves . Uh maybe it should have uh electri electrici electricity savingfeature .Marketing: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}Project Manager: And {vocalsound} even possibly a timerto {disfmarker} so that people can program {vocalsound} their favourite uh uh program on th right fromthe remote .User Interface: Yes .Project Manager: Uh are we all in agreement that that's about what wediscussed last time ? Okay .User Interface: Yes .Industrial Designer: Yeah .Marketing: Yeah , I think thatpretty much is it . Yeah . Mm-hmm .Project Manager: {vocalsound} Okay , then we {disfmarker} I'mlooking for three presentations . And uh I don't know whether the order matters much uh , I don't I don'tthink so , so whoever w wants {disfmarker}User Interface: Okay , I can start first .Project Manager: Yeah, okay .User Interface: Okay . Now my slide , please . {vocalsound}Project Manager: Okay , your slides .Okay . Oh , come on , close already .Marketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager: And that's number two ,right ?User Interface: Three .Project Manager: Three .User Interface: Participant three . Yes . Okay.Project Manager: Okay .User Interface: Now as an interface designer , I would give more emphasis onthe interface , how the remote looks like so that it is sellable , it is attractive to customers . Next , please. Okay . Now the function of a remote is to send messages to the television . This messages could be uhswitch on-off message or switch to next channel message or swapping the channels or switching onto aparticular channel , like you can have the numbers one , two , three , four , up to nine .Project Manager:Nine what ? Nine channel uh switches ?User Interface: Pardon me ?Project Manager: Nine channelswitches ? Is {disfmarker} Yeah . Mm-hmm . Mm-hmm .User Interface: Yes , nine numbers . And thenyou have swapping of uh buttonProject Manager: Mm-hmm .User Interface: by which {disfmarker} usingwhich you can swap the channels if you don't want to see the third channel you can swap it to the fourthchannel or vice versa . Then it should have a next button , and next button channel by which you can"} {"doc_id":"doc_118","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: Hello , uh this meeting we are it's fo should be focused on the conceptual design of theremote control .Marketing: Hello .Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .User Interface: Hello .Project Manager:Um the goal of this meeting is to reach a decision at the end on the concept and I think the last time wetalked about an a lot and we had a rough idea of what is going to be , but uh in th at the end of thismeeting we have to to reach a decision . So , uh we will have again three presentation , from all of you ,and uh I hope it will be fast because I would like to have time to for long discussion and and decisions .So , who wants to start ? Okay .User Interface: I sMarketing: Okay .User Interface: No , no , you you canstart .Project Manager: So start , uhMarketing: Okay , I'll start . Can you open my presentation ,ProjectManager: {vocalsound}Marketing: please .Project Manager: Uh . {gap}Marketing: I'm number four.Project Manager: This one ?Marketing: Trend . Yep . Can you pass the mouse , please . {vocalsound} Ohokay , that's fine .Project Manager: Turn .Marketing: Okay . Um so basically I just want to presented toyou {disfmarker} present to you some recent results we've had from um looking at uh um some remotecontrol market research and some fashion trends around the world . Um the fashion trends we got fromtalking to our our contacts in the fashion industry based in Paris and Milan . {vocalsound} Um{vocalsound} so f from our market research basically we've come to the conclusion that a fancy look andfeel , um as opposed to a functional look and feel , is our number one priority . Um fancy is is is is the ,you know , highest priority .Project Manager: Hmm .Industrial Designer: Hmm .Marketing: Secondly umthat our remote control needs to be techn technologically innovative . Um so this is t number two prioritybut it's two times less important as the fancy criteria . Um and third thirdly the easiness of use is is theum is is important as well , but again two times less important as the technologically innovativeness ofthe remote control . {vocalsound} From our f fashion people in Paris and Milan , um we've discoveredthat this year um fruit the fruit and vegetable motif will be the most important thing in in clothes , shoesand furniture . So , {vocalsound} I'm pretty confident that our remote control fits into the furniturecategory . And also um the feel of material this year um is expected to be spongy .Project Manager: Okay.Marketing: Um so hopefully our remote control reflects that s in some way .Industrial Designer: Whatdoes it mean , spongy ?Marketing: Uh sort of um squishy .Industrial Designer: Like soft , or something?Marketing: Um . Yeah soft ,Project Manager: {vocalsound}Marketing: like a uh like a sponge .ProjectManager: Like a sponge . {vocalsound} Yeah .Marketing: {vocalsound} I don't know . Yeah .IndustrialDesigner: Okay . I will see .Marketing: Um so in conclusion , we need a our remote control needs to besomething that's really fancy , um has lots of technolog tech technology in it . {vocalsound} Umsomehow would be good to have it related to fruit and vegetables with a spongy feel .Project Manager:{vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Okay .User Interface: {vocalsound}Marketing: And thatit's easy to use and from our last meeting our you know Fabian told us that w you know one of therequirements is that we have to reflect the look and feel of our {disfmarker} of th the Real Reactioncompany . Um .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound} Yeah , uh yeah.Marketing: {vocalsound} That's it .Project Manager: Easy to use , is it uh a as much as important thantechnology or fancy thing . It's less important , right ?Marketing: Less important .Project Manager: Yeahyeah .Marketing: So um fanciness first and then two ti you know , half as important as that is technologytechnology ,Project Manager: Okay .Marketing: and half important as technology is easy to use . So.Project Manager: {gap} So , Hamed , can you {gap} .User Interface: Yeah . The second one . Could youplease show the presentation number three .Project Manager: Mm-hmm .Industrial Designer: I think thebiggest struggle will be the easy to use feature .Project Manager: {vocalsound} Um . Number ?IndustrialDesigner: {vocalsound} We'll see .User Interface: Yeah .Project Manager: Three .User Interface: Three.Project Manager: This one ? {vocalsound}User Interface: {vocalsound} Yes . {gap} Just Could youplease check if it is the first one or the second . Uh , n n no , it's the first one . The second one .ProjectManager: So it's not this one .User Interface: Uh yeah . Okay . {gap} Okay . So I am going to talk about{disfmarker} a little bit about how this remote control should be appear to be more easy to use . I thinkuh I think the feature easy to use is more important than being fancy , but okay , we can discuss about it"} {"doc_id":"doc_119","qid":"","text":"The Chair (Hon. Anthony Rota (NipissingTimiskaming, Lib.)): I call this meeting to order. Welcome to the13th meeting of the House of Commons Special Committee on the COVID-19 Pandemic. This will be ahybrid meeting. Some members will be participating via video conference and some will be participatingin person. In order to ensure that those joining the meeting via video conference can be seen and heardby those in the chamber, two screens have been set up on either side of the Chairs chair, and membersin the chamber can listen to the floor audio or to interpretation using the earpieces at their desks. Beforespeaking, please wait until I recognize you by name, and please direct your remarks through the chair.For those joining via video conference, I would like to remind you to leave your mike on muteMr. ZiadAboultaif (Edmonton Manning, CPC): I have a point of order.The Chair: Can the member wait for thepoint of order until we finish the introduction?Mr. Ziad Aboultaif: There is so much noise in thebackground over there, Mr. Chair.The Chair: That is a very good point of order. I want to remindeveryone that when we speak, it is picked up. We have amazing speakersand an amazing Speaker, butthat's a whole other storyand amazing microphones in the chamber, and they do pick up everything. Iknow there was some chatter going on in the background. I want to make sure everyone is aware of that.Mr. Aboultaif, that was a very good point of order. I appreciate that. For those joining us via videoconference, I would like to remind you to leave your mikes on mute when you're not speaking. Also,please note that if you want to speak in English, you should be on the English channel, and if you want tospeak in French, you should be on the French channel. Should you wish to alternate between the twolanguages, you should change the channel to the language that you are speaking each time you switchlanguages. Should members participating by video conference wish to request the floor outside theirdesignated speaking times, they should activate their mic and state that they have a point of order.Those in the Chamber can rise in the usual way. Please note that today's proceedings will be televised. Iunderstand that there are no ministerial announcements for today, so we'll continue to the presentationof petitions, for a period not exceeding 15 minutes. I would like to remind members that any petitionpresented during a meeting of the special committee must have already been certified by the clerk ofpetitions. For members participating in person, we ask that they please come and drop the signedcertificate off at the table once the petition is presented. The first petition goes to Mr. Manly, who isjoining us via video conference.Mr. Paul Manly (NanaimoLadysmith, GP): Thank you, Mr. Chair. This is apetition that calls on the government to deal with helping our honey bees. They are crucial to our foodsystem. They provide hundreds of billions of dollars worth of services to commercial agricultural cropsand other ecological services every year, and the European Union has put heavy restrictions on thechemicals that are affecting them, the neonicotinoids. This petition calls on the Government of Canada,for the sake of bees and our food security, to follow Europe's lead and adhere to the precautionaryprinciple by banning the use of neonicotinoids in Canada.The Chair: The next presenter of petitions will beMr. Genuis, who is very parliamentary and dressed from the waist up, I understand.Mr. Garnett Genuis(Sherwood ParkFort Saskatchewan, CPC): Thank you, Mr. Chair, and that is all you need to see for themoment. Canadians are horrified by the military report on the conditions of long-term care in Ontario. Itraises big questions about the choices facing seniors in certain situations, which is what makes this firstpetition particularly timely. I am tabling a petition related to Bill C-7, the government's euthanasia bill,which seeks to dramatically remove safeguards that the government said were vital only a short timeago. When some people are living in deplorable conditions, we cannot truly speak of them as having achoice of when they ought to die. Especially in light of that new information, I commend this petition forthe consideration of members of the House. The second petition is in support of Bill S-204 on organharvesting and trafficking, put forward in the Senate. The bill would make it a criminal offence for aperson to go abroad and receive an organ without the donor's consent. This bill seeks to combat thehorrific practice of forced organ harvesting and trafficking.The Chair: The next petition presenter will beMs. May.Ms. Elizabeth May (SaanichGulf Islands, GP): Thank you, Mr. Chair, and greetings fromSaanichGulf Islands. The petition I'm presenting today is petition e-2509, which has been duly certified."} {"doc_id":"doc_120","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: {vocalsound} Okay .User Interface: Mm-hmm .Project Manager: So we are here for theconcept design meeting . So , we will first start by summarizing the mm {vocalsound} the previousmeeting and the decision we've taken . Uh I will take notes during this meeting so uh that you can uhlook at my uh folder to see the summary of this meeting afterwards . So each of you will uh show us thevarious investigation they've done during uh previous uh hours . We'll then t take decision in concert andthen uh uh we will uh define the nest {disfmarker} next task , to have {disfmarker} to be done beforethe next meeting . So , last time we decided to have a simple interface . We also decided to have a wheelto change channel {disfmarker} previous channel button . Channel digit uh buttons should be uhprotected by plastic cover or something for the remote control to look very simple . We have also buttonfor volume , and to switch on off the T_V_ . We have also uh the lightening feature for the remote controlto be easy to find , and for fast development and low cost we have decided to have no L_C_D_ no voicefeatures . So now uh we will have three presentations . So the conceptual specification by IndustrialDesigner , the specification of the U_I_ by {disfmarker} or U_I_ {vocalsound}User Interface: Abdulal-Hasred is my name .Project Manager: okay . {vocalsound} And uh the last point is uh trend watchingby Market Expert . So maybe we can start with uh industrial design . So this is the presentation.Industrial Designer: Uh , I_D_ you want ?Project Manager: Maybe I can switch slide uh on your request.Industrial Designer: Yeah . I only v have three slides , so . I just look at the mm {disfmarker} um justthis . On some web pages to find some documentationProject Manager: Yeah .Industrial Designer: and Ithink a remote control is , as I s mentioned previously , you just have a a very simple chip and the mmthe user interface is just done usually by push button and in our case we are using a um a wheel control .So uh uh I was looking basically for that chip , which is uh very very standard , and uh I just looked forthe wheel sensor and the standard push button . And um {vocalsound} yeah we can change directly.Project Manager: Yeah .Industrial Designer: In fact I have the number of that element which is verystandard for remote control . The push button are usually extremely cheap , but I just have one problemand this is related with the wheel sensor , which seems to be quite expensive .Project Manager: Okay.User Interface: Mm-hmm .Industrial Designer: And I think we if we could just talk about that if we reallyneed a wheel sensor or if we can not {disfmarker} if if we could combine something with the push button.Project Manager: Okay .Industrial Designer: Uh a wheel sensor is fifty time the price of a a a push button.User Interface: Yeah .Project Manager: But is it a significant price on the whole remote control ?UserInterface: Mm .Project Manager: Because we can afford up to twelve Euros for the price of the remotecontrol .Industrial Designer: Yeah . YeahProject Manager: So will will will this with uh including allpossible things , so buttons , wheel and the chip , be uh lower than twelve Euros to produce ?IndustrialDesigner: I I th {vocalsound} But I don't think that uh we should {disfmarker} We should talk about uhthe design of the box also which needs some money .User Interface: Yeah .Project Manager: OkayUserInterface: Also have to say {disfmarker}Industrial Designer: But {disfmarker}User Interface: Did youreceive the email about the voice recognition ?Industrial Designer: Um that's all {vocalsound}UserInterface: No ?Project Manager: You received something {disfmarker}Industrial Designer: yeah . Ihaven't checUser Interface: Yeah . You we uh an email from the manufacturing division that they havebasically a voice recognition chip already developed .Project Manager: Hmm .User Interface: Says{disfmarker} Yeah . It says that ri right now they just use it to uh to record uh answers to particularquestions . But I guess it could be {disfmarker}Project Manager: And could it be adapted ?UserInterface: I guess it's possible . I mean instead of recording the answers you can just uh record uhsomething simpler like a command .Project Manager: Okay and there can uh recognize some commandsand stuff ?User Interface: Yeah you reco recognize commands and you can record new commands andstuff , so if they already have it as uh as a chipProject Manager: Okay . Yeah .User Interface: then we wecould use it .Project Manager: Okay maybe we can just uh listen to this presentation and then takedecision later on {disfmarker} according to those news .Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .User Interface:Okay .Industrial Designer: Yeah but I think it's yeah {disfmarker} Sorry , I haven't written my personal"} {"doc_id":"doc_121","qid":"","text":"Grad A: OK , this is one channel . Can you uh , say your name and talk into your mike one at a time ?PhDC: This is Eric on channel three , I believe .Grad A: OK . Uh , I don't think it 's on there , Jane .UndergradD: Tasting one two three , tasting .Postdoc E: OK , this is Jane on channel five .Grad A: Uh , I still don'tsee you Jane .Postdoc E: Oh , darn , what am I doing wrong ?Undergrad D: Can you see me on channelfour ? Really ?Grad A: Yeah , I sUndergrad D: My lucky day .Postdoc E: Uh , screen no , {disfmarker} it is, oh , maybe it just warmed up ?Grad A: No .Postdoc E: Oh , darn , can you can't see channel five yet?Grad A: Uh , well , the mike isn't close enough to your mouth , so .Postdoc E: Oh , this would be k OK ,is that better ?Grad A: S uh , try speaking loudly ,Undergrad D: I like the high quality labelling .Grad A:so ,Postdoc E: Hello ,Grad A: OK , good .Undergrad D: David , can we borrow your labelling machine toimprove the quality of the labelling a little bit here ?Postdoc E: hello . Alright .Grad A: Thank you .PhD B:One tUndergrad D: How {disfmarker} how many are there , one to five ?PhD B: One five , yeah.Undergrad D: Yeah , please .Postdoc E: Would you like to join the meeting ?Grad A: Well , we don'twanna renumber them ,Postdoc E: I bet {disfmarker}Grad A: cuz we 've already have like , forms filledout with the numbers on them . So , let 's keep the same numbers on them .PhD B: Yeah , OK , that 's agood idea .Grad A: OK , Dan , are you on ?PhD B: I 'm on {disfmarker} I 'm on two and I should be on.Grad A: Good .PhD B: Yeah .Undergrad D: Want to join the meeting , Dave ? Do we {disfmarker} do{disfmarker} do we have a spare , uh {disfmarker}Grad A: And I 'm getting lots of responses ondifferent ones , so I assume {pause} the various and assorted P Z Ms are on .Undergrad D: We ' r we 're{disfmarker} we ' r This is {disfmarker} this {disfmarker} this is a meeting meeting .Postdoc E: This isabou we 're {disfmarker} we 're mainly being taped but we 're gonna talk about , uh , transcription forthe m future meeting meetings .Grad A: Stuff . Yeah , this is not something you need to attend . So.Postdoc E: Yeah . e OK .PhD C: You 're always having one of those days , Dave .Postdoc E: Y you 'd bewelcome .Grad A: Besides , I don't want anyone who has a weird accent .Postdoc E: You 'd be welcome.Grad A: Right , Dan ?Undergrad D: So , I don't understand if it 's neck mounted you don't get very goodperformance .PhD C: It 's not neck mounted . It 's supposed to be h head mounted .Undergrad D: Yeah .It {disfmarker} it should be head mounted . Right ?Grad A: Well , then put it on your head .PhD B: Idon't know .PhD C: Right .Grad A: What are you doing ?Undergrad D: Cuz when you do this , you can{disfmarker} Rouww - Rouww .Postdoc E: Why didn't I {disfmarker} you were saying that but I couldhear you really well on the {disfmarker} on the transcription {disfmarker} on the , uh , tape .Grad A:Well , I m I would prefer that people wore it on their headPhD B: I {disfmarker} I don't know .PhD C:iGrad A: but they were complaining about it . Because it 's not {disfmarker} it doesn't go over the ears.Undergrad D: Why ?Postdoc E: It 's badly designed .Grad A: It 's very badly designed so it 's{disfmarker}PhD B: It 's very badly designed ?Undergrad D: What do you mean it doesn't go over theears ?PhD B: Why ? It 's not s It 's not supposed to cover up your ears .Grad A: Yeah but , there 'snowhere to put the pad so it 's comfortable .PhD B: I mean , it 's only badly {disfmarker}Postdoc E: Sothat 's what you 're d He 's got it on his temples so it cuts off his circulation .PhD B: Oh , that 's strange.PhD C: Yeah , that 's {disfmarker} that 's what I have .Grad A: And it feels so good that way .PhD C: Itfeels so good when I stop .Grad A: So I {disfmarker} I again would like to do some digits .Undergrad D:Somebody wanna {disfmarker}Postdoc E: Try it .Grad A: Um .Undergrad D: Somebody wanna close thedoor ?Grad A: Sure .PhD B: OK .Postdoc E: We could do it with noise .Grad A: So let me {disfmarker}PhDC: You 're always doing digits .Grad A: Well , you know , I 'm just that sort of {disfmarker} digit - y gsorta guy . OK . So this is Adam .Postdoc E: Uh , this is the same one I had before .Grad A: I doubt it.PhD B: It 's still the same words .Grad A: I think we 're session four by the way . Or m it might be five.Undergrad D: Psss ! Oh , that 's good .Postdoc E: NoGrad A: I didn't bring my previous thing .PhD B: Wedidn't {disfmarker}Postdoc E: Now , just to be sure , the numbers on the back , this is the channel ?PhDB: That 's the microphone number .Postdoc E: That 's the microphone number .Grad A: Yeah , d leave thechannel blank .Postdoc E: Uh - oh . OK , good .Undergrad D: But number has to be {disfmarker} ? So wehave to look up the number .Postdoc E: Five {disfmarker}Grad A: Right .Undergrad D: OK , good"} {"doc_id":"doc_122","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: Good morning . Sorry ? Yeah , busy job . Good morning . So {disfmarker} Oh , goodmorning everyone .User Interface: Good morning .Industrial Designer: Good morning .Project Manager:I'd uh like to welcome you to our first meeting . I've prepared a little presentation . My name is {gap}and uh I hope you will introduce yourself uh in a few minutes , as will I . Um I'm the Project Manager ofthis project , and uh , well I will tell you {gap} on what actually is the project . This is uh the agenda forour first meeting . Um this is the opening , then we will get {disfmarker} {gap} I will hope we will getacquainted to each other . We'll do a little tool training with these two things . We'll take a look at theproject plan . Uh there will be time for discussion . Actually we have to discuss because we have to createa product . And then we will close this session . Um but first of all we I'd like to uh introduce you to thisroom . Um as you probably have noticed there are little black uh fields on the table . Um you have to putyour laptop exactly in that field so the little cameras can see your face . Um there are camerasIndustrialDesigner: {vocalsound}Project Manager: everywhere around the room especially here for your face , ofcourse , and this isn't a pie , it's a a set of microphonesIndustrial Designer: {vocalsound}ProjectManager: and there are microphones here also . But please uh don't be afraid of them .User Interface:{vocalsound}Project Manager: They won't hurt you . Um well uhUser Interface: Well{vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Project Manager: I said I'm the Project Manager and uhI'm hoping uh for a good project and uh I'd like to hear uh who you are and what your functions are uhon this project . Let's start with the ladies {vocalsound} {vocalsound} .User Interface: Well uh I'm uh{gap} and my uh function is User Interface Design , I think .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}UserInterface: {vocalsound} So uh that's me .Industrial Designer: Okay , uh I'm {gap} uh I'm the IndustrialDesigner and I uh hope to uh {disfmarker} look forward to uh a very uh pleasing uh end of this uhproject .Project Manager: Okay , so I .User Interface: Me too .Marketing: My name's {gap} . I'm uh{vocalsound} Marketing Expert . {vocalsound} My job is in the company to promote company or promoteproducts to the customers . So I also h hope we have a pleasant uh working with uh with each other.Project Manager: Okay , well we have some expertise from uh different pieces of the of the company.User Interface: {vocalsound}Project Manager: That's good . Um well I said uh we're working on aproject and the aim for the project is to to create a {disfmarker} to design a new remote control whichuh has to be original , trendy and of course , user friendly . {vocalsound} And uh I hope we have theexpertise to create such a project {disfmarker} such a product . Um the way we hope to achieve that isuh the following methods . It consists of three phases , namely the functional design , conceptual designand detailed design . As you can see , all of these phases consists of two parts , namely individual workpart and a meeting where we will discuss uh our work so far . Okay . But first I will uh tell you somethingabout the tools we have here . I already talked about the cameras and microphones , but they are not ofuh much use to us . Uh we will have to take advantage of these two things . They are smart boards . Asyou can see , you can give a presentation on them . And uh this one here is a white board . I will uhinstruct you about that soon . Um as you also noticed uh this presentation document is in our uh projectfolder and every document you put in this folder uh is uh it is possible to show that here in our meetingroom . Um and yeah there are available on both smart boards but I think we will uh mainly use this onefor the documents in the shared folder . As you can see , this is the same tool bar uh as is located here .Um the most functions uh we will use will be to to add a new page , um uh to go back and forwardbetween pages , and of course uh to save it every now and then . Um and this is the pen with which youcan draw on the board , for instance like this if everything's okay ,User Interface: {vocalsound}ProjectManager: but I first have to put it on the pen , you see I'm new to it too .User Interface:{vocalsound}Project Manager: Um and then you can write things like test or whatever you want.Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}User Interface: Oh .Project Manager: As you can see you have tomove it a little bit slow , it's not such a fast board , it's a smart board but also a slow board .IndustrialDesigner: {vocalsound}User Interface: {vocalsound}Project Manager: Uh but you can write things and ofcourse you can also , when you click here , uh erase things , so we have uh est left . And um you can also"} {"doc_id":"doc_123","qid":"","text":"Professor E: So . OK . Doesn't look like it crashed . That 's great .Grad G: So I think maybe what 'scausing it to crash is I keep starting it and then stopping it to see if it 's working . And so I think startingit and then stopping it and starting it again causes it to crash . So , I won't do that anymore .Postdoc B:And it looks like you 've found a way of uh mapping the location to the {disfmarker} without havingpeople have to give their names each time ?PhD A: Sounds like an initialization thing .Postdoc B: I meanit 's like you have the {disfmarker} So you know that {disfmarker}Grad G: No .Postdoc B: I mean , areyou going to write down {pause} that I sat here ?Grad G: I 'm gonna collect the digit forms and write itdown .Postdoc B: OK .PhD C: Oh , OK .Grad G: So {disfmarker} So they should be right with what 's onthe digit forms . OK , so I 'll go ahead and start with digits . u And I should say that uh , you just pau youjust read each line an and then pause briefly .Professor E: And start by giving the transcript number .PhDA: TranPhD D: Transcript {disfmarker} Uh . OK , OK .PhD A: Oh sorry , go ahead .Professor E: So uh ,you see , Don , the unbridled excitement of the work that we have on this project .Grad H: OK .ProfessorE: It 's just uh {disfmarker}Grad H: Umh .Professor E: Uh , you know , it doesn't seem like a bad idea tohave {comment} that information .Grad G: And I 'm surprised I sort of {disfmarker} I 'm surprised Iforgot that ,Professor E: Yeah , I {disfmarker} I 'd {disfmarker} I think it 's someGrad G: but uh I thinkthat would be a good thing to add . After I just printed out a zillion of them .Professor E: Yeah , well , that's {disfmarker} Um , so I {disfmarker} I do have a {disfmarker} a an agenda suggestion . Uh , we{disfmarker} I think the things that we talk about in this meeting uh tend to be a mixture of uhprocedural uh mundane things and uh research points and um I was thinking I think it was a meeting acouple of weeks ago that we {disfmarker} we spent much of the time talking about the mundane stuffcuz that 's easier to get out of the way and then we sort of drifted into the research and maybe fiveminutes into that Andreas had to leave . So {vocalsound} uh I 'm suggesting we turn it around and{disfmarker} and uh sort of we have {disfmarker} anybody has some mundane points that we couldsend an email later , uh hold them for a bit , and let 's talk about the {disfmarker} the research - y kindof things . Um , so um the one th one thing I know that we have on that is uh we had talked a{disfmarker} a couple weeks before um uh about the uh {disfmarker} the stuff you were doing with{disfmarker} with uh um uh l l attempting to locate events , we had a little go around trying to figure outwhat you meant by \" events \" but I think , you know , what we had meant by \" events \" I guess was uhpoints of overlap between speakers . But I th I gather from our discussion a little earlier today that youalso mean uh interruptions with something elsePhD D: Yeah .Professor E: like some other noise .PhD D:Uh - huh . Yeah .Professor E: Yes ? You mean that as an event also .PhD D: ToProfessor E: So at any rateyou were {disfmarker} you 've {disfmarker} you 've done some work on thatPhD D: right .Professor E:and um then the other thing would be it might be nice to have a preliminary discussion of some of theother uh research uh areas that uh we 're thinking about doing . Um , I think especially since you{disfmarker} you haven't been in {disfmarker} in these meetings for a little bit , maybe you have somediscussion of some of the p the plausible things to look at now that we 're starting to get data , uh andone of the things I know that also came up uh is some discussions that {disfmarker} that uh{disfmarker} that uh Jane had with Lokendra uh about some {disfmarker} some {disfmarker} some umuh work about I {disfmarker} I {disfmarker} I d I {disfmarker} I don't want to try to say cuz I{disfmarker} I 'll say it wrong , but anyway some {disfmarker} some potential collaboration there about{disfmarker} about the {disfmarker} about the {disfmarker} working with these data .PhD C: Oh . Sure.Professor E: So . So , uh .Grad G: You wanna just go around ?Professor E: Uh . {pause} Well , I don'tknow if we {disfmarker} if this is sort of like everybody has something to contribute sort of thing , I thinkthere 's just just a couple {disfmarker} a couple people primarily um but um Uh , wh why don't{disfmarker} Actually I think that {disfmarker} that last one I just said we could do fairly quickly so whydon't you {disfmarker} you start with that .Postdoc B: OK . Shall I {disfmarker} shall I just start ? OK.Professor E: Yeah , just explain what it was .Postdoc B: Um , so , uh , he was interested in the questionof {disfmarker} you know , relating to his {disfmarker} to the research he presented recently , um of"} {"doc_id":"doc_124","qid":"","text":"Marketing: Is this okay ?Project Manager: Uh yeah . Fine now . Oh , it's not liking us , it went that-a-way. Computer adjusting . Oh . Uh . Okay . {vocalsound} So . Right . You ready back there ? {vocalsound}Uh okay . Welcome everyone . Um this is the kick-off meeting for the day . Um we're the new group uh tocreate a new remote control for Real Reaction . As you can see our agenda is to open up the meeting ,um become acquainted with each other , um have a little training on tools , uh create a plan , discussthings and and we only have twenty minut twenty five minutes total . Okay . The new remote control is tobe original , trendy and user-friendly . That , Steph , is your part , is the user-friendliness . The originalityum is gonna take all of us . Um the trendiness we'll probably go look at {disfmarker} for some marketingresearch information from you , Sarah . Um and we'll get on with it . Okay , so we'll have a functionaldesign individual work um with meeting and then conceptual design t and then detailed design . Okay ?Right . Everybody's supposed to try out the whiteboard . Kate , why don't you try it first , if you caneither bring your things with you , I guess {disfmarker}Industrial Designer: Uh yeah , if I can pick upwith all these bits and pieces , hang on .Project Manager: And while you're doing that we'll try and figureout how to hook these things on as well , 'cause we're all gonna have to be able to walk around.Industrial Designer: Uh right , so you want an animal and the characteristics of that animal .{vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Do you have to be able to recognisewhat animal it is ? {vocalsound} Um {disfmarker}Project Manager: Uh I do not think so ,User Interface:{vocalsound} {vocalsound} Are we all gonna draw a cat ?Project Manager: I think it's just to try out thewhiteboard . {vocalsound} {vocalsound} Ah {vocalsound} .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Onlyanimal I could thin I could draw {vocalsound} .Marketing: I know .Industrial Designer: Its a sort ofbunny rabbit cat . {vocalsound}User Interface: {vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound}IndustrialDesigner: You can tell it's not a bunny rabbit by the ears .Project Manager: Uh-huh .Industrial Designer:Um I suppose it should have a mouth as well , sort of {disfmarker}Project Manager: Okay .IndustrialDesigner: Right , yeah .Project Manager: Great . And the characteristics ?Industrial Designer: Um thefavourite characteristics of the cat um {disfmarker} the whiskers I think , um because they're the easiestto draw .Project Manager: Uh-huh .Industrial Designer: In fact , I'll give it some more{disfmarker}Project Manager: Okay .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Oh , and the tailProject Manager:Fantastic . Since you're handy as well , why don't you do yours next , Steph . I think it's to get us used tousing the pen .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yes . Um sure it's not to test our artistic{disfmarker}Project Manager: Uh no . {vocalsound} A mouse-y ?Industrial Designer: It's a mouse .UserInterface: That's not a mouse-y , no .Industrial Designer: No it's not a mouse . It's a wombat .ProjectManager: Oh .User Interface: It's a ratty .Project Manager: Argh .Industrial Designer: A what ?ProjectManager: Rat .User Interface: A ratty .Project Manager: Not a mouse , a rat .Industrial Designer: Awebbed foot . Webbed f {vocalsound}User Interface: {vocalsound} It's clothes . That's it's clothes .{vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Oh right {vocalsound} .User Interface:It's a ratty with a with a with a very long tail .Project Manager: And your favourite characteristics of thatanimal .User Interface: I love whiskers . Uh they're intelligent and they're cheeky {vocalsound} and uhfantastic petsProject Manager: Oh .User Interface: and very friendly .Project Manager: Okay . Kate?Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}User Interface: And they sit on your shoulder andwhisper the answers to your homework in your ear when you're doing your homework .Project Manager:{vocalsound}Marketing: Thanks .Project Manager: Oh , a fish .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Gosh,User Interface: A shark ?Industrial Designer: why didn't I think of fish ? That's even easier to draw thancat . {vocalsound}Marketing: Mm {vocalsound} this is very representational fish . {vocalsound}ProjectManager: Oh , okay .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Project Manager: Fine .Marketing: Um I like thembecause they're sleekProject Manager: Favourite characteristics ?Marketing: and they have a lot offreedom but they also do n uh swim in groups ,Project Manager: 'Kay .Marketing: so .Project Manager:So they have team elements . {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Marketing: Do you have afavourite one ?Project Manager: I'm afraid I'm with Steph . And I think your pen's running out of"} {"doc_id":"doc_125","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: Right uh . So um . So where's the PowerPoint presentation ? Sorry ? MicrosoftPowerPoint , right . Right , okay . So . Right . Okay , so we've got uh so we've got new projectrequirements . Um . So basically we've got three things , and we've got forty minutes in which to uh{disfmarker} for this meeting to uh to discuss the various options . Um . Three presentations .IndustrialDesigner: We have a {disfmarker} I guess we have a presentation each , 'cause I've got one . Um .UserInterface: Yeah .Marketing: Yeah ,Project Manager: I see , right .Marketing: I've got one too .ProjectManager: That's nice to know , one from each of you . Um new project requirements . Um so do we wantto do the presentation first , or do we want to um {disfmarker} W I I got um {gap} or or three thingsbasically , um relating to the remote being only for T_V_ . We discussed that last timeIndustrial Designer:Mm-hmm .Project Manager: and in actual fact that was pr pretty well what we came up with anyway.Marketing: Mm-hmm .Project Manager: So in fact it actually f we won't be forestalled {vocalsound} in asense .Marketing: Mm-hmm .User Interface: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {gap}Project Manager:Um we've got uh teletext outdated . Um did you get any information on that ?Industrial Designer: Uh wedidn't , no .User Interface: No .Project Manager: Right and the corporate image was the uh final thing.Industrial Designer: I d I didn't personally .Marketing: Hmm .Project Manager: So I I got that in emailform .User Interface: {vocalsound}Project Manager: Um . Right okay . So I guess if we go ahead with theuh with the three presentations . So we'll start with yourself on the basis that uh {disfmarker}IndustrialDesigner: Okay that's fine . I'll just um I'll grab the wire out the back of this one .Project Manager: Sorry, yep .Industrial Designer: {gap}User Interface: {vocalsound}Project Manager: Oh . {vocalsound}UserInterface: What is it ?Industrial Designer: I'm not quite sure how it {disfmarker}User Interface: I thinkyou've got to do um control F_ eight .Industrial Designer: Control {gap} {disfmarker} Doesn't seem tobe quite working at the moment .User Interface: Shift F_ eight . {vocalsound} {gap}Industrial Designer:Alt function F_ eight . {vocalsound} Again not doing anything .Marketing: {vocalsound} There's usually alittle thing in the top right for the {disfmarker}Industrial Designer: Oh .User Interface: Ah there,Marketing: Oh hang on ,User Interface: it's doing something .Marketing: it's just coming on .IndustrialDesigner: {gap} pressed about five times now .User Interface: {vocalsound}Marketing:{vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Okay , that's me {gap} . Okay , um I have to go {gap} again .ProjectManager: {gap} it going ?Industrial Designer: Hopefully that should be it this time . Okay , I think we'rethere . That's good . Okay , um {disfmarker} Okay I'm gonna be looking at the working design . Um{vocalsound} of the of the remote control . Um I've just got three sections , first is the research I madeon the on the remote control itself um . And then that involves the components required in it and thesystems uh design of the actual the actual remote . Um so having researched the existing models withinthe market , um I found my research off the internet . Um I've established what the components requiredfor the remote control to function , actually are . And then also the methods in which these componentsinteract together for the remote to actually do what you want it to do and how it connects with thetelevision . Um the basic components are an energy source which I guess um in most existing modelswould be a battery supply . Whether that'll be sort of two batteries , four batteries , um it may vary.Project Manager: Okay .Industrial Designer: We then have the user interface , which is basically the likethe the buttons on the actual remote . Um the various functions used for changing channel , uh channelup and down , volume , things like that . Um there's also a chip inside the remote which does all thecomputer type things . And then the sender , which um is usually , I've found , an infra-red device whichsends a signal to the actual television . Um and the last part is receiver which is important in the systembut is not actually part of the remote itself , because that's obviously found in the television . {gap} . UmI'm gonna have to actually draw on the board because uh it was a little tricky on PowerPoint to get thisworking , so . I'll just go through there . S um um do we have a cloth to wipe this down with , or ? Oh I'lljProject Manager: Uh there's the rubber on the right , I think .User Interface: I think it's that little{disfmarker}Industrial Designer: Oh I see . Oh okay . I'll get rid of the bear.$Project Manager: {gap} it'smagic . {vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Okay that's great . Okay , so we start"} {"doc_id":"doc_126","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: Okay . {vocalsound} Je croix que c'est dommage de le {disfmarker} it will be sad todestroy this prototype . It really looks like a banana .User Interface: {vocalsound} It is a banana .ProjectManager: It is a banana . {vocalsound}User Interface: It is the essence of bananas . I would be confusedwith this thing .Project Manager: {vocalsound}User Interface: {vocalsound}Project Manager:{vocalsound} Mm .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}User Interface: SProject Manager: Okay .Marketing:Mm-hmm . {vocalsound}User Interface: How is everyone ?Project Manager: Hi .Industrial Designer: Hi.Project Manager: So we are here for the detailed design meeting .Marketing: {vocalsound}ProjectManager: {vocalsound} So {vocalsound}User Interface: Mm-hmm .Project Manager: we will uh{disfmarker} I will first present what we are going to do in this meeting . Then uh I've {disfmarker} I willalso take notes during this meeting and I will send you uh a summary then as usual . We will then look atthe evaluation criteria of the prototype presented by uh our two colleagues that make good work.Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound} And uh thenwe will see the financial aspects and the cost of the product . Then we will uh evaluate the product . Anduh end with the conclusion of this project and see whether it fits with {disfmarker} it fulf if it fulfil therequirement or not . SoIndustrial Designer: Mm-hmm .Project Manager: d let's start with the cost aspectso so I look at the aspect discussed last time , that is to say uh to have a standard battery , {vocalsound}to have a yellow banana shaped uh case with uh a rubber material around itIndustrial Designer:{vocalsound}Project Manager: to be uh to feel spongy ,User Interface: Like a banana .Project Manager:{vocalsound} and uh also at the different aspect like having a wheel etcetera .Marketing:{vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .Project Manager: And the cost ended to be ten point sevenEuros . So which is uh good , because we had a price gap of twelve point five Euros .Industrial Designer:Mm-hmm .Project Manager: So for the financial aspect it's okay , we can uh {disfmarker} we cancontinue with this product uh as if ,Marketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound} and we arenow going to see the project evaluation with uh our marketing expert .Marketing: {vocalsound} Yeah .Okay . So uh you can have my project in {disfmarker}Project Manager: Yeah . You have a presentation?Marketing: Uh yeah just a {disfmarker}Project Manager: Participant four , yes .Marketing: {vocalsound}Four . Evaluation .Project Manager: Okay . Okay .Marketing: Okay . So you can go . We can go through.Project Manager: Okay .Marketing: So I made an evaluation and the the evaluation criteria is madeaccording to {vocalsound} the users' requirements and the market trends we talked about uh during theprevious uh meetings . So you can go through and {disfmarker}Project Manager: Okay .Marketing: okayso uh we have uh six points . We we talked about before .Project Manager: Okay .Marketing: So we wewant to have a product fancy look and feel , technologically innovative , easy to use , fashion ,{vocalsound} easy to find in a room , and robust ,Project Manager: Yeah .Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm.Marketing: uh and uh uh I have a scale of uh seven points .Project Manager: Yeah .Marketing: Okay . SoI go through all the uh all the points here ,Project Manager: Yeah .Marketing: and uh according to whatyou think about the this project you can uh mm make a one point , two point or seven point . Okay?Project Manager: Okay .Marketing: And after we ha we have an an average , and uh we see .ProjectManager: Okay .Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .Marketing: The {disfmarker} okay ? {vocalsound} Uh souh fancy look and feel , what do you think ?Project Manager: Okay . Maybe you can presen{vocalsound}Marketing: F between o one and seven .Project Manager: okay . Maybe {disfmarker}{vocalsound} hold it .Marketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound} So I think it's uh very uhvery nice . What do you think ?User Interface: I give it a {disfmarker} I give it a five .Project Manager:Yeah . So it's between one and seven ? Seven is the highest uh ?Marketing: Yeah . {vocalsound} Sevenis the {disfmarker}Project Manager: I will give a six .Industrial Designer: I will give a a five .Marketing:{vocalsound} Mm-hmm .User Interface: {vocalsound} And you ?Marketing: {gap} sorry .User Interface:Do you vote uh Christine ?Marketing: {gap} eh ?User Interface: Do you also vote ?Marketing:{vocalsound} No , I just want to see something {disfmarker}Project Manager: Maybe we all have toagree on a common {disfmarker}User Interface: Well , we can {gap} very easily {vocalsound} .Project"} {"doc_id":"doc_127","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: Good morning , again .Industrial Designer: One question .User Interface: Yeah .{vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Send .User Interface: Choose a number ?{vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Submit . {vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound} Yep yep yep yep.Project Manager: All set ?Industrial Designer: Mm . Yeah .Marketing: Mm-hmm .Project Manager: Good .Okay . Let's see what we can find here . Okay . A very warm welcome again to everyone .User Interface:{vocalsound}Project Manager: Um here we are already at our uh functional design meeting . Um and thisis what we are going to do . The opening , which we are doing now , um and the special note , I'm projectmanager but on the meetings I'm also the secretary , which means I will make uh minutes as I did of theprevious meeting .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Project Manager: And uh I also put these as fast aspossible in the uh project folder , so you can see them and review what we have discussed . Um if I'mright , there are three presentations , I guess each one of you has prepared one ? Good .User Interface:Yes .Project Manager: And um we will also take a look at new project requirements , um if you haven'theard about them yet . And then of course we have to take a decision on the remote control functionsand we have some more time , forty minutes . But I think we will need it . Um well I don't know whowants to go first with his presentation .Industrial Designer: I'll go first . Okay . I'll go first yeah.Marketing: Yeah .Project Manager: You can go first , okay .User Interface: Well .Marketing: Well , shall Igo first with the users ?User Interface: Well {vocalsound}Marketing: I think {disfmarker} well okay noproblem . {vocalsound}Project Manager: Is there an order ? I haven't {disfmarker}User Interface:everybody already has his presentation ,Marketing: Ja precies , ja precies , ja preciesUser Interface:{vocalsound} so you can adjust it . {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: So . Huh ? Okay , um{disfmarker}Project Manager: And one question , uh your name Denni , is it with aMarketing: E_I_E_.Project Manager: I_E_ {disfmarker} E_I_E_ , okay . Thank you .User Interface: {vocalsound}IndustrialDesigner: Okay , um I wanted to explain the working design of the remote control . It's possibly veryhandy if you want to uh design one of those . Um {vocalsound} well so it basically works uh as I uh uh rwrote down uh in this uh little uh summary . Uh when you press a button , {vocalsound} uh that's whenyou do pr for example when you uh want to turn up the volume , um a little connection is made uh thethe rubber uh {vocalsound} button just presses on aProject Manager: Sorry . {vocalsound}Marketing:{gap}User Interface: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: on a little print plate uh which uh makes uh uh{vocalsound} a connection that uh gives the chips , uh which is uh mounted beneath those uh thatplastic of a rubber button . Uh senses that a connection has been made , and know and knows whatbutton you pressed , becau uh for example the the volume up or volume down button . Um uh the thechip uh makes a Morse code uh like uh signal which uh then is si uh signalled {vocalsound} to uh severaltransistors which makes uh which sends the signal to a little let . You know what a let is ?User Interface:Yeah .Industrial Designer: Okay . {vocalsound} And that makes uh the the infra-red lights signal which issent to the television set . Uh which has a sensor in it to uh sense uh the signal of the infra-red . That'sbasically uh how it works . Um the findings uh uh that I found uh searching up some uh detailedinformation about the remote controls , are that uh they are very easy to produce , uh it is pis uh it'spossible to uh make them in mass production because it is as eas it is as easy as uh printing a page , uhjust uh fibreglass plate um is b uh is uh covered with uh some uh coatings and uh uh {vocalsound} andchips .User Interface: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Uh and the technology's already available , wedon't have to find out how remote controls uh have to work or uh how that how uh to make some chipsthat are possible to uh to to transmit those uh signals . Uh I made a little uh uh animation of{vocalsound} about how a tran our uh remote controller works .User Interface: {vocalsound}Marketing:{gap}User Interface: Oh right .Marketing: {vocalsound} Animation . {vocalsound}User Interface:{vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} we telUser Interface: There is something turning.Industrial Designer: There .Project Manager: Yeah , it's a little bug it's in the in the smart board .{vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Okay . Uh wellUser Interface: {vocalsound}IndustrialDesigner: the sub-component , I suppose that you understand what a sub-component is , is f in this"} {"doc_id":"doc_128","qid":"","text":"Grad E: OK , we 're on .Professor B: OK .Grad E: So , I mean , everyone who 's on the wireless checkthat they 're on .PhD F: C we {disfmarker}Grad G: Alright .Postdoc C: I see . Yeah .PhD F: Yeah .Grad E:OK , our agenda was quite short .Professor B: Oh , could you {pause} close the door , maybe ? Yeah.Grad E: Sure . Two items , which was , uh , digits and possibly stuff on {disfmarker} on , uh , forcedalignment , which Jane said that Liz and Andreas had in information on ,Professor B: Grad E: but theydidn't ,PhD F: Mm - hmm .Professor B: I guess the only other thing , uh , for which I {disfmarker}GradE: so .PhD F: We should do that second , because Liz might join us in time for that .Grad E: OK .ProfessorB: Um . OK , so there 's digits , alignments , and , um , I guess the other thing , {vocalsound} which Icame unprepared for , uh , {vocalsound} is , uh , to dis s s see if there 's anything anybody wants todiscuss about the Saturday meeting .Grad E: Right .Professor B: So . Any {disfmarker} I mean , maybenot .Grad E: Digits and alignments . But {disfmarker}Professor B: Uh .PhD F: Talk about aligning people's schedules .Professor B: Yeah .Grad E: Yeah .Postdoc C: Mm - hmm .Professor B: Yeah . I mean{disfmarker} Right . Yeah , I mean , it was {disfmarker}Grad E: Yeah , it 's forced alignment of people 'sschedules .PhD F: Yeah .PhD D: Forced align .PhD F: If we 're very {disfmarker}Professor B: Yeah .PhDF: Yeah .Professor B: With {disfmarker} with {disfmarker} whatever it was , a month and a half orsomething ahead of time , the only time we could find in common {disfmarker} roughly in common , wason a Saturday .PhD D: Yeah .Professor B: Ugh .Grad E: Yep .PhD F: It 's pretty sad .Professor B: Yeah.PhD F: Yeah .Postdoc C: Have {disfmarker} Have we thought about having a conference call to includehim in more of {disfmarker} {vocalsound} in more of the meeting ? I {disfmarker} I mean , I don't know, if we had the {disfmarker} if we had the telephone on the table {disfmarker}Professor B: No . But , h Imean , he probably has to go do something .PhD F: No , actually I {disfmarker} I have to {disfmarker} Ihave to shuttle {pause} kids from various places to various other places .Professor B: Right ?Postdoc C: Isee . OK .Professor B: Yeah .PhD F: So . And I don't have {disfmarker} and I don't , um , have a cellphonePhD D: A cell phone ?PhD F: so I can't be having a conference call while driving .Professor B: R rright .Postdoc C: No . {comment} It 's not good .Professor B: So we have to {disfmarker} we{disfmarker}Postdoc C: That 's not good .PhD F: Plus , it would make for interesting noise {disfmarker}background noise .Professor B: Grad E: Yep .PhD F: Uh {disfmarker}Professor B: So we have to equiphim with a {disfmarker} with a {disfmarker} {vocalsound} with a head - mounted , uh , cell phoneGradE: Ye - we and we 'd have to force you to read lots and lots of digits ,Professor B: and {disfmarker}GradE: so it could get real {disfmarker} {vocalsound} real car noise .PhD F: Oh , yeah .PhD D: Yeah .PhD F:Oh , yeah .Grad G: Take advantage .PhD D: And with the kids in the background .PhD F: I 'll let{disfmarker} I 'd let {disfmarker}PhD D: Yeah .PhD F: I let , uh , my five - year - old have a try at thedigits , eh .Professor B: Yeah .Grad E: So , anyway , I can talk about digits . Um , did everyone get theresults or shall I go over them again ? I mean that it was basically {disfmarker} the only thing that waseven slightly surprising was that the lapel did so well . Um , and in retrospect that 's not as surprising asmaybe i it shouldn't have been as surprising as I {disfmarker} as {disfmarker} as I felt it was . The lapelmike is a very high - quality microphone . And as Morgan pointed out , that there are actually someadvantages to it in terms of breath noises and clothes rustling {pause} if no one else is talking .PhD D:Yeah .PhD F: Exactly .Grad E: Um , so , uh {disfmarker}Grad G: Mm - hmm .Professor B: Well , it 's{disfmarker} Yeah , sort of the bre the breath noises and the mouth clicks and so forth like that , thelapel 's gonna be better on .Grad G: It 's g it {disfmarker}PhD D: Or the cross - talk . Yeah .Professor B:The lapel is typically worse on the {disfmarker} on clothes rustling , but if no one 's rustling their clothes,Grad E: Right . I mean , a lot of people are just sort of leaning over and reading the digits ,Professor B:it 's {disfmarker} it 's {disfmarker}Grad E: so it 's {disfmarker} it 's a very different task than sort of thenatural .PhD D: Yeah . You don't move much during reading digits , I think .Professor B: Yeah .Grad E:So .Professor B: Yeah .Grad E: Right .Grad G: Probably the fact that it picks up other people 's speakers{disfmarker} other people 's talking is an indication of that it {disfmarker} the fact it is a goodmicrophone .PhD D: Yeah .Professor B: Right . So in the digits , in most {disfmarker} most cases , there"} {"doc_id":"doc_129","qid":"","text":"Grad C: Now can you give me the uh {pause} remote T ?Professor D: OK , so Eva , co uh {disfmarker}could you read your numbers ?Grad A: Go ahead and read . OK .Professor D: Yeah .Grad C: Alright.Professor D: Yeah , let 's get started . Um {disfmarker} Hopefully Nancy will come , if not , she won't.Grad B: Uh , Robert , do you uh have any way to turn off your uh screensaver on there so that it 's notgoing off every {disfmarker} uh , it seems to have about at two minute {disfmarker}Grad C: Yeah , I 've{disfmarker} I {disfmarker} uh {disfmarker} it 's not that I didn't try .Grad B: OK .Grad C: and um I{disfmarker} I told it to stay on forever and ever , but if it 's not plugged in it just doesn't obey mycommands .Grad B: OK .Grad C: It has a mind .Grad B: Got it .Grad C: But I I just {disfmarker} Youknow , sort of keep on wiggling .Undergrad E: Wants to conserve .Grad B: Yeah , OK .Grad C: But uh{disfmarker} we 'll just be m m working on it at intensity so it doesn't happen . We 'll see . Should weplunge right into it ?Professor D: Yeah .Grad C: So , would you like to {disfmarker}Professor D: I think so.Grad C: So what I 've tried to do here is list all the decision nodes that we have identified on this{pause} side . Commented and {disfmarker} what they 're about and sort of {disfmarker} the propertieswe may um give them . And here are the uh {disfmarker} tasks to be implemented via our datacollection . So all of these tasks {disfmarker} The reading is out of these tasks more or less imply thatthe user wants to go there , sometime or the other . And analogously for example , here we have our EVAum {disfmarker} intention . And these are the data tasks where w we can assume the person would liketo enter , view or just approach the thing . Analogously the same on the object information we can seethat , you know , we have sort of created these tasks before we came up with our decision nodes so there's a lot of things where we have no analogous tasks , and {pause} that may or may not be a problem .We can change the tasks slightly if we feel that we should have data for e sort of for every decision nodeso {disfmarker} trying to im um {disfmarker} implant the intention of going to a place now , going to aplace later on the same tour , or trying to plant the intention of going sometime on the next tour , or thenext day or whenever .Professor D: Right , right .Grad C: But I think that might be overdoing it a little.Professor D: So {disfmarker} Yeah . So let me pop up a level . And uh s s make sure that we 're alloriented the same . So What we 're gonna do today is two related things . Uh one of them is to work onthe semantics of the belief - net which is going to be the main inference engine for thi the system uhmaking decisions . And decisions are going to turn out to be parameter choices for calls on other modules. so f the natural language understanding thing is uh , we think gonna only have to choose parameters ,but You know , a fairly large set of parameters . So to do that , we need to do two things . One of whichis figure out what all the choices are , which we 've done a fair amount . Then we need to figure out whatinfluences its choices and finally we have to do some technical work on the actual belief relations andpresumably estimates of the probabilities and stuff . But we aren't gonna do the probability stuff today .Technical stuff we 'll do {disfmarker} uh {disfmarker} another day . Probably next week . But we aregonna worry about all the decisions and the things that pert that contribute to them . And we 're also ,sort of uh in the same process , going to work with Fey on what there should be in the dialogues . So Oneof the s steps that 's coming up real soon is to actually get subjects uh {disfmarker} in here , and havethem actually record like this . Uh record dialogues more or less . And {disfmarker} depending on whatFey sort of provokes them to say , we 'll get information on different things .Grad C: Well how peoplephrase different intentions more or less ,Professor D: So {disfmarker} Fo - v yeah people with the{disfmarker} phrase themGrad C: huh ?Professor D: and so {disfmarker} Uh for , you know , Keith andpeople worrying about what constructions people use , uh {disfmarker} we have some i we have someways to affect that by the way the dialogues go . So what Robert kindly did , is to lay out a table of thekinds of uh {pause} things that {disfmarker} that might come up , and , the kinds of decisions . So theuh {disfmarker} uh {disfmarker} on the left are decision nodes , and discreet values . So if {disfmarker}if we 're right , you can get by with um just this middle column worth of decisions , and it 's not all thatmany , and it 's perfectly feasible technically to build belief - nets that will do that . And he has a handout.Grad C: Yeah . Maybe it was too fast plunging in there , because j we have two updates .Professor D:"} {"doc_id":"doc_130","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: Okay , so now we are on the conceptual design meeting . {vocalsound} Uh y gettingclose to the lastMarketing: Mm-hmm .Project Manager: is the penultim meeting . {vocalsound}{vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound}User Interface: How was lunch ? {vocalsound}Project Manager:{vocalsound} Mm great . {vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound} Thanks {vocalsound}IndustrialDesigner: {vocalsound} {vocalsound} {vocalsound}Marketing: Don't be sarcastic . {vocalsound} Mark .{vocalsound}Project Manager: So {vocalsound} um I will again do the secretary part uh we will havethree presentation first um uh the industrial design , first Rama then Mark and then Sammy .Marketing:Uh Rama .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Ramaro .Project Manager: Um um we have to take adecision on the control {disfmarker} remote control concepts and we have forty minutes .User Interface:Mm .Project Manager: So what we want to {disfmarker} the decision we want to take on this meeting areon the um first on the component concept , so what kind of energy we use uh what kind of chip on printand one ki kind of case . And also on user interface concept uh what kind of interface we use and if thereis some supplements . And at the end um Sammy will give um {vocalsound} a trend watching on whathe's {disfmarker} he's been doing . It's {disfmarker} So , let's go . First with Rama . Participant two.Industrial Designer: Yeah , participant two . Component .Project Manager: Mm-hmm .{vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Yep . So we're to mainly design f mainly need to know whichcomponents we'll use for energy , and the material and interface . For energy there are maybe two orthree possibilities . First one , we can use simple battery , or we can use {vocalsound} traditional solarcells or {disfmarker} mm and the material we can have plastic , rubber which is good for thisR_S_A_Marketing: Ah .Industrial Designer: and then uh titanium , which can be {disfmarker} which havevery good look an and then interface we're to use push buttons or liquid crystal d L_C_D_ display . Andwe can use some {gap} , moving {gap} kind of thing . So , as we discussed before , we need to{disfmarker} we would like to have some speech recognition s chip in our remote control . So this can besimple kind of programmable chip and {disfmarker} which can use microphone {gap} sensors . And wealso want to look at our remote control , so . Still we are looking for possible uh technical uhspecifications and how w easy we can do and within our pri range , like we're to {disfmarker} in ourtwelve Euros or around that . So we are looking for simple devices or simple technology to do the locationof remote control in a room or in a house .Project Manager: Mm-hmm , okay .Industrial Designer: So uhwe discussed an {disfmarker} {vocalsound} Excuse me . So we would like to propose battery instead ofsolar cells and it would be problematic uh to have enough energy with the solar cellsMarketing: Mm-hmm.Industrial Designer: and so we would like to just use simple battery . And also we want to go for titaniumdesign instead of rubber or {disfmarker} and well the problem is with this design we found that we can'tuse double-curved shapes .Marketing: What is a double-curved shape ?Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Like you can have two curves .Marketing: Uh-huh .User Interface: Why ?Industrial Designer: Uh it's{disfmarker} I think in manufacturing I guess it's problematic . So , we want to go for simple pushbuttons because it need a simple chip and it's really lesser {disfmarker} uh re really less expensivecompared to L_C_D_Marketing: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: which are uh which needs advancedchip technology and it's more expensive ,User Interface: Mm-hmm .Industrial Designer: since we want toput some other features such as speech recognitionMarketing: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: we wantto reduce uh cost .Project Manager: {vocalsound} Um I want to know why it b uh just uh sorry but forthe point before uh why not the rubber , if it is something that it seems to be light .Marketing: The cost.Industrial Designer: Uh {disfmarker} Uh {disfmarker} And also like in {disfmarker} if you put a {gap}it's be difficult to do all the moulding of buttons and these thingsProject Manager: Okay . You m titaniumit's more uh {disfmarker}Industrial Designer: and {disfmarker} Yeah .User Interface: W we can usesomething like you know {vocalsound} the whole body's titanium but there are some rubber or I dunnosome rubber parts likeIndustrial Designer: Yeah .Marketing: Mm like this ?Project Manager: Yes so mm{disfmarker}User Interface: to make it feel better and to you know {disfmarker}Industrial Designer: Likein cell phones recentlyProject Manager: Uh-huh .User Interface: {vocalsound} Yeah . Yeah .Industrial"} {"doc_id":"doc_131","qid":"","text":"Grad A: Hey , you 're not supposed to be drinking in here dude .Grad D: OK .Grad A: Do we have to readthem that slowly ? OK . Sounded like a robot . Um , this is tGrad C: OK .Grad A: When you read thenumbers it kind of reminded me of beat poetry .Grad D: I tried to go for the EE Cummings sort of feeling, but {disfmarker}Grad A: Three three six zero zero . Four two zero zero one seven . That 's what I thinkof when I think of beat poetry .Grad C: Beat poetry .Grad A: You ever seen \" So I married an axemurderer \" ?Grad C: Uh parts of it .Grad D: Mm - hmm .Grad A: There 's a part wh there 's parts when he's doing beat poetry .Grad C: Oh yeah ?Grad A: And he talks like that . That 's why I thi That uh probablyis why I think of it that way .Grad D: Hmm . No , I didn't see that movie . Who did {disfmarker} whomade that ?Grad A: Mike Meyers is the guy .Grad D: Oh . OK .Grad A: It - it 's his uh {disfmarker} it 'shis cute romantic comedy . That 's {disfmarker} that 's {disfmarker} That 's his cute romantic comedy ,yeah . The other thing that 's real funny , I 'll spoil it for you . is when he 's {disfmarker} he works in acoffee shop , in San Francisco , and uh he 's sitting there on this couch and they bring him this massivecup of espresso , and he 's like \" excuse me I ordered the large espresso ? \"Grad D: Uh . We 're having ,{vocalsound} a tiramisu tasting contest this weekend .Grad A: Wait {disfmarker} do are y So you 'retrying to decide who 's the best taster of tiramisu ?Grad D: No ? Um . There was a {disfmarker} a{disfmarker} a fierce argument that broke out over whose tiramisu might be the best and so we decidedto have a contest where those people who claim to make good tiramisu make them ,Grad A: Ah .Grad D:and then we got a panel of impartial judges that will taste {disfmarker} do a blind taste {vocalsound}and then vote .Grad A: Hmm .Grad D: Should be fun .Grad A: Seems like {disfmarker} Seems like youcould put a s magic special ingredient in , so that everyone know which one was yours . Then , if youwere to bribe them , you could uh {disfmarker}Grad D: Mm - hmm . Well , I was thinking if um{disfmarker} y you guys have plans for Sunday ? We 're {disfmarker} we 're not {disfmarker} it 'sprobably going to be this Sunday , but um we 're sort of working with the weather here because we alsowant to combine it with some barbecue activity where we just fire it up and what {disfmarker} whoeverbrings whatever you know , can throw it on there . So only the tiramisu is free , nothing else .Grad A:Well , I 'm going back to visit my parents this weekend , so , I 'll be out of town .Grad D: So you 're goingto the west Bay then ? No ,Grad A: No , the South Bay ,Grad D: south Bay ?Grad A: yeah .Grad D: SouthBay .Grad C: Well , I should be free , so .Grad D: OK , I 'll let you know .Grad C: OK .Grad A: We are . IsNancy s uh gonna show up ? Mmm . Wonder if these things ever emit a very , like , piercing screech rightin your ear ?Grad D: They are gonna get more comfortable headsets . They already ordered them . OK.Grad C: Uh {disfmarker}Grad D: Let 's get started . The uh {disfmarker} Should I go first , with the uh ,um , data . Can I have the remote {vocalsound} control . Thank you . OK . So . On Friday we had ourwizard test data test and um {vocalsound} these are some of the results . This was the introduction . Iactually uh , even though Liz was uh kind enough to offer to be the first subject , I sort of felt that sheknew too much , so I asked uh Litonya . just on the spur of the moment , and she was uh kind enough touh serve as the first subject .Professor B: Mm - hmm .Grad D: So , this is what she saw as part of{disfmarker} as uh for instr introduction , this is what she had to read {pause} aloud . Uh , that wasreally difficult for her and uh {disfmarker}Grad C: Because of l all the names , you mean ?Grad D: Thenames and um this was the uh first three tasks she had to {disfmarker} to master after she called thesystem , and um then of course the system broke down , and those were the l uh uh I should say thesystem was supposed to break down and then um these were the remaining three tasks that she wasgoing to solve , with a human {disfmarker} Um . There are {disfmarker} here are uh the results . Mmm .And I will not {disfmarker} We will skip the reading now . D Um . And um . The reading was five minutes, exactly . And now comes the {disfmarker} This is the phone - in phase of {disfmarker}Grad C: Wait ,can I {disfmarker} I have a question . So . So there 's no system , right ? Like , there was a wizard forboth uh {disfmarker} both parts , is this right ?Grad D: Yeah . It was bo it both times the same person.Grad C: OK .Grad D: One time , pretending to be a system , one time , to {disfmarker} pretending to bea human , which is actually not pretending .Grad C: OK . And she didn't {disfmarker}Grad D: I should"} {"doc_id":"doc_132","qid":"","text":"PhD F: And we 're on .Professor D: OK . Might wanna {vocalsound} close the door so that {disfmarker}Uh , Stephane will {disfmarker}PhD F: I 'll get it .Professor D: YeahPhD F: Hey Dave ? Could you goahead and turn on , uh , Stephane 's {disfmarker}Grad C: Mm - hmm .Professor D: So that 's the virtualStephane over there .PhD F: OK .Professor G: Do you use a PC for recording ? Or {disfmarker}PhD F: Uh, yeah , a Linux box . Yeah . It 's got , uh , like sixteen channels going into it .Professor G: Uh - huh . Uh -huh . The quality is quite good ? Or {disfmarker} ?PhD F: Mm - hmm . Yeah , so far , it 's been prettygood .Professor G: Mm - hmm .Professor D: Yeah . So , uh , yeah {disfmarker} the suggestion was tohave these guys start to {disfmarker}PhD F: OK . Why don't you go ahead , Dave ?Grad C: OK . Um , so, yeah , the {disfmarker} this past week I 've been main mainly occupied with , um , getting some results, u from the SRI system trained on this short Hub - five training set for the mean subtraction method .And , um , I ran some tests last night . But , um , c the results are suspicious . Um , it 's , um ,{vocalsound} cuz they 're {disfmarker} the baseline results are worse than , um , Andreas {disfmarker}than results Andreas got previously . And {vocalsound} it could have something to do with , um{disfmarker}PhD F: That 's on digits ?Grad C: That 's on digits . It c it {disfmarker} it could h it couldhave something to do with , um , downsampling .PhD F: Hmm .Grad C: That 's {disfmarker} that 's worthlooking into . Um , d and , um , ap ap apart from that , I guess the {disfmarker} the main thing I have tta I have to talk is , um , where I 'm planning to go over the next week . Um . So I 've been working onintegrating this mean subtraction approach into the SmartKom system . And there 's this question of ,well , so , um , in my tests before with HTK I found it worked {disfmarker} it worked the best with abouttwelve seconds of data used to estimate the mean , but , we 'll often have less {comment} in theSmartKom system . Um . So I think we 'll use as much data as we have {pause} at a particular time ,and we 'll {disfmarker} {vocalsound} we 'll concatenate utterances together , um , to get as much dataas we possibly can from the user . But , {vocalsound} um , {vocalsound} there 's a question of how toset up the models . So um , we could train the models . If we think twelve seconds is ideal we could trainthe models using twelve seconds to calculate the mean , to mean subtract the training data . Or we could, um , use some other amount . So {disfmarker} like I did an experiment where I , um , was using sixseconds in test , um , but , for {disfmarker} I tried twelve seconds in train . And I tried , um , um , thesame in train {disfmarker} I 'm a I tried six seconds in train . And six seconds in train {vocalsound} wasabout point three percent better . Um , and {disfmarker} {vocalsound} um , it 's not clear to me yetwhether that 's {vocalsound} something significant . So I wanna do some tests and , um , {vocalsound}actually make some plots of , um {disfmarker} for a particular amount of data and test what happens ifyou vary the amount of data in train .PhD F: Mm - hmm .Professor D: Uh , Guenter , I don't know if you t{vocalsound} followed this stuff but this is , uh , {vocalsound} a uh , uh , long - term {disfmarker} long- term window F F Yeah . Yeah , he {disfmarker} you talked about it .Professor G: Yeah , we{disfmarker} we spoke about it already ,Professor D: Oh , OK . So you know what he 's doing .ProfessorG: yeah .Professor D: Alright .Grad C: y s so I was {disfmarker} I actually ran the experiments mostlyand I {disfmarker} I was {disfmarker} I was hoping to have the plots with me today . I just didn't get toit . But , um {disfmarker} yeah , I wou I would be curious about people 's feedback on this cuz I 'm{disfmarker} {vocalsound} @ @ {comment} I p I think there are some I think it 's {disfmarker} it 'skind of like a {disfmarker} a bit of a tricky engineering problem . I 'm trying to figure out what 's theoptimal way to set this up . So , um , {vocalsound} I 'll try to make the plots and then put somepostscript up on my {disfmarker} on my web page . And I 'll mention it in my status report if peoplewanna take a look .Professor D: You could clarify something for me . You 're saying point three percent ,you take a point three percent hit , {vocalsound} when the training and testing links are {disfmarker}don't match or something ?PhD E: Hello .Professor D: Is that what it is ?Grad C: w Well , it cProfessor D:Or {disfmarker} ?Grad C: I {disfmarker} I don't think it {disfmarker} it 's {vocalsound} just for anymismatch {vocalsound} you take a hit .Professor D: Yeah .Grad C: i In some cases it might be u better tohave a mismatch . Like I think I saw something like {disfmarker} like if you only have two seconds in test"} {"doc_id":"doc_133","qid":"","text":"The Chair (Hon. Anthony Rota (NipissingTimiskaming, Lib.)): I call the meeting to order. Welcome to thethird meeting of the House of Commons Special Committee on the COVID-19 Pandemic. Pursuant to theorder of reference of Monday, April20, the committee is meeting for the purposes of consideringministerial announcements, allowing members to present petitions, and questioning ministers of thecrown, including the Prime Minister, in respect of the COVID-19 pandemic. I understand there's anagreement to observe a moment of silence in memory of the six members of the Canadian Armed Forceswho lost their lives last Wednesday in a helicopter crash off the coast of Greece. We'll return to order.Colleagues, we meet today to continue our discussion about how our country is dealing with theCOVID-19 pandemic. As we do, Canadians, like everyone around the world, are doing their best to livetheir lives until things improve. Meanwhile, as we look towards the future, I believe that it is alsoimportant to remember our past and to continue to mark the important moments in our shared history.At this very moment, the Dominion Carillonneur, Dr. Andrea McCrady, is performing a special recital tocommemorate the 75th anniversary of the liberation of the Netherlands by the Canadian Forces. In May1945, Canadian Forces played a major role in liberating the Dutch people from Nazi occupation. May 5 isnow a national holiday in the Netherlands that commemorates the event and the great friendship thatnow exists between our two countries. Today's meeting is taking place by video conference. Theproceedings will be made available via the House of Commons website. Please be aware that the webcastwill always show the person speaking rather than the entire committee. Let me remind you that, as in theHouse or in committee, members may not take photographs of their colleagues or film the proceedings.In order to facilitate the work of our interpreters and ensure orderly meetings, I will outline a few rules.Interpretation of this video conference will be done as it is at normal committee meetings and in theHouse. At the bottom of your screen, you can choose floor, English or French. As you have seen, I changeas I am speaking. I have now switched over to English in order to speak English. If you look at thebottom, you have a little flag that indicates whether it's English or French, and that's how we will bespeaking. It makes it easier. That was where we had a little bit of a glitch in the last session. Iunderstand that there are no statements by ministers. We can now proceed to presenting petitions for aperiod not exceeding 15 minutes. I would like to remind members that petitions presented during ameeting of the special committee must already have been certified by the clerk of petitions. In addition,to ensure that the petition is considered to have been properly presented, the certificate of the petitionand each page of the petition for petitions certified in a previous Parliament should be emailed to thecommittee no later than 6 p.m. on the day before the committee. I thank all the members for their usualco-operation. Thank you all. Now we'll proceed to presenting petitions. Our first petition comes from thehonourable member for Sherwood ParkFort Saskatchewan, Mr. Genuis.Mr. Garnett Genuis (SherwoodParkFort Saskatchewan, CPC): Mr. Chair, I'm pleased to be presenting two petitions today. The firstpetition is with respect to government Bill C-7. Petitioners raised concerns that this bill removessafeguards from the current euthanasia regime. It includes removing the mandatory 10-day reflectionperiod and the number of required witnesses who will witness a person's consent. The petitioners urgethe House of Commons to immediately discontinue the removal of safeguards for people requestingeuthanasia, and to put in place additional measures to protect vulnerable people. This would require thatbill to be amended or not passed. The second petition is with respect to Senate public bill S-204. This ison organ harvesting and trafficking. Petitioners call on members of the House, and hopefully the Senateas well, to support Bill S-204, which would make it a criminal offence for a person to go abroad andreceive an organ for which there has not been consent. It would also create provisions under which aperson could be made inadmissible to Canada if they had been involved in organ harvesting or trafficking.Thank you very much.The Chair: Thank you. I want to remind all the members that there are specificheadsets that have been mandated to all of us. If you don't have one, please talk to your IT ambassadorand they will get one to you as quickly as possible. The reason for them is not so much for what you hear,but that our interpreters are working and there are work conditions that really make it difficult. Part of"} {"doc_id":"doc_134","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: Alright , that did nothing . Okay . Welcome to the meeting everyone . Just gonnaattempt to make this into a slide show . Sorry guys .Marketing: You may have to do the function F_ eightthing .Project Manager: I did . Twice .Marketing: Oh , okay . {vocalsound}Project Manager: This'll justtake a moment . {vocalsound}User Interface: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Okay okay{vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager: Or it won't .Marketing: {vocalsound}ProjectManager: Okay we'll have to deal with it like this then .Industrial Designer: Okay . {vocalsound}ProjectManager: Alright . Um . This is the first meeting uh for developing our , our new product . {gap} I'mHeather , I'm your Project Manager .Industrial Designer: Hello . {vocalsound}User Interface:{vocalsound}Project Manager: Okay . So um . So that was the opening .Marketing: {vocalsound}ProjectManager: The first thing we'll do is get acquainted with one another . If everyone could go around andexplain their role and um , and their name .User Interface: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Okay . Myname's Poppy . I'm the Industrial Designer for this project . Um , I'm going to be responsible for thefunctional design phase . Also the conceptual design and the detailed design for the final product .ProjectManager: Nice to meet you Poppy .Industrial Designer: Okay . {vocalsound}User Interface:{vocalsound} My name's Tara and I'm the User Interface Designer .Marketing: {vocalsound}UserInterface: I will also be responsible for the functional design phase , the conceptual design phase and thedetailed design phase of the user interface design . {vocalsound}Project Manager: Alright .Marketing: Hi ,I'm Genevieve . I'm the Marketing Expert . I'm an expert at marketing .Industrial Designer:{vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound}Marketing: Um , I'll be telling you guys about the userrequirement specifications for our new product . Um , I'll be doing some trend-watching in the conceptualdesign , and product evaluation for the design phase .Project Manager: Alright I'm Heather and I've I saidI'm your Project Manager , um Well you can pretty much read what it is that I'm doing . But um um{disfmarker}User Interface: {vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager: Yeah . And uh tooltraining is one thing that we're going to be doing today , um um as well as planning the project , howwe're going to , uh , create this product , and , um , discuss , um , our aims and objects of this , Whichbrings us to our next subject ,Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Project Manager: is , um , um,Marketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager: as a team we're going to be designing and creating a newkind of remote control . Um , we want this to be a marketable product that can be trendy , um , acompletely new style , so that , um , can really appeal to a , to a generation that doesn't want a simpleplain kind of , uh , channel-changer . And , um , it needs to be user-friendly for , um , maybe , for anexample , for people that , um , can't see the numbers as well , or , um , perhaps an ergonomic design.Industrial Designer: Okay . So this is a television remote control ?Project Manager: Yes , it's a televisionremote control .Industrial Designer: Yeah .Project Manager: Right . I believe I should be taking minuteson this right now . So , alright .Industrial Designer: Okay .Project Manager: Um , yeah . Um , the waythat we're going to go about this is , um , we'll have a time where we can , um come up with new ideasalone , and , and work on the project and then , um , after we've brainstormed and , and thought about ,we can come together in a meeting and , and discuss what , what um , what kind of functional design wewant to use . Same with conceptual design and detailed design . So , um , making sure that it , it's usable, that as a , um {disfmarker} and that it's , it's feasible to create , and uh , to come up with a concept ofit want , what we want it to look like . Um , tool training . Is , is everyone , um {disfmarker} {gap} Okay.Industrial Designer: Yeah . Got those notes .Marketing: Yeah .Project Manager: Great . Great.Marketing: Thank you .Project Manager: Um One thing that , uh , we're going to do is become moreacquainted with the , the tools that we have access to for our project . Um , one of them is ourwhiteboard . And , um , as a sort of team-building moment , um , I , I'd like us to , um , try out thewhiteboard by expressing our favourite animal and the charac characteristics of that animal .IndustrialDesigner: {vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound}User Interface: {vocalsound}Project Manager: Um , whythat , why that should be your favourite animal . So , um , I , I'm assuming that we should do that now.Industrial Designer: Okay .Marketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager: 'Kay .User Interface:"} {"doc_id":"doc_135","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: {vocalsound} Um {vocalsound} minutes from the last meeting which were essentiallythat we uh had decided on roles for each of you , however , um there are some changes that I've gotfrom on highUser Interface: Okay . {vocalsound}Project Manager: that um are a bit uh {disfmarker} wellw what I didn't actually realise it was that the uh {vocalsound} this is for a specific television .UserInterface: Okay .Project Manager: So the all in one idea goes out the window . And {vocalsound} theyrequire that the uhUser Interface: Mm-hmm .Project Manager: actually I'll get to that at the end {gap}point number four , um we'll get what you've got and then we can see what we can adapt from it . So um, presentations , were you {disfmarker} anybody got , raring to go ?Marketing: Yeah . Yeah .ProjectManager: Raring to go ? Okay . Good stuff . Mm .Marketing: Um . So how {disfmarker}Project Manager:Oh I need to plug you in . {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Marketing: S {gap}ProjectManager: Just about .User Interface: Wow . {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: It's a inspired design.Marketing: {gap}User Interface: {vocalsound}Marketing: Sh do you want me to hold it ?ProjectManager: Uh there we go , just screw 'em on in . Gonna have to swap them round so {disfmarker}{vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound} So , after that ?Project Manager: now , it was function F_ eight.Marketing: F_ eight . {vocalsound} f oh sorry F_ eight .Project Manager: That's the wee blue one . Blueone F_ eight .Marketing: Okay .Project Manager: Should do it , good one .Marketing: Yeah . Yeah . Uh ,me again , Rajan the Marketing Expert . Uh , as we have decided in the last meeting that I have to findout , sorry , yeah sure .Project Manager: Hold on , sorry . {gap} and if you just click that it'll go ahead ,one at a time .Marketing: Yeah , yeah . Uh actually , sorry I have to see the other {gap} , sorry .ProjectManager: {vocalsound} Sorry , uh .Marketing: Yeah , thank you .Project Manager:{vocalsound}Marketing: Uh , yes , I have to look at the uh market potential for this product , uh , likeconsumer likings and everything , what is the potential for this product and are we able to achieve our anet profit or our aims or not ? Then {disfmarker}Project Manager: P press F_ five to start it first.Marketing: Sorry . Okay . Yeah , I can , okay .Industrial Designer: Hmm .Project Manager: {vocalsound}Jesus .Marketing: Uh then uh the methodology I adopted to find out all this was market survey . A adetailed market survey on consumers was done to find out their likings and dislikings , what they preferwhat they not prefer , w what problems they do encounter in all this type of things . And what we got was, we found that {disfmarker} if you {disfmarker} uh , what they th what problems they are having withdifferent uh remote controls available in the market . Seventy five percent of users they do find it that theremote controls available in the market are ugly . They are not so good looking . So , we have to putstress on this , uh we have to take care of this fact also like our design , uh should be appropriate ,should be good looking for the consumers . And yes that's wi uh this will definitely , this can definitely putuh uh enhance our sales . Uh and even uh the good thing about this is that eighty percent of users theyare willing to pay high uh pay more for this uh good looking remote controls also . So even if theavailable market goes for the available {disfmarker} uh even if the market goes for the available remotecontrol is less even then we can sell it at twenty five Euros , which maybe which may seem quite high butif our looks are are if the re remote control we design have a good better uh better look uh designs , thenwe can hope that consumers will prefer these g remote controls .Project Manager: Excellent .Marketing:Then {disfmarker} {gap} And the second thing , some some companies they think that they should havemore and more functions of the users uh or in their remote controls , but rather than those having morefunctions in the remote controls we should emphasise what actually consumer want , what they operate ,rather than making it too complicated . Because mostly it has been found that fifty percent of the usersthey use only ten percent of the buttons , so there is no point of having ninety percent buttons makingthe remote controls too bulky , too complicated too expensive a because I think I believe that technologyis useful only if uh the consumers they want to use it . Otherwise there is no point of having all this typeof things . So this will not only reduce the cost of our remote controls but it will increase our profit also .So we have to take care of this fact also . Then . Uh it was function I want to go to .Project Manager: Ohyou wanna go back ? Just escape .Marketing: Uh , escape , okay thank you . Then if we look at this slide"} {"doc_id":"doc_136","qid":"","text":"Grad C: Yeah , we had a long discussion about how much w how easy we want to make it for people tobleep things out . So {disfmarker} Morgan wants to make it hard .PhD D: It {disfmarker} it doesn't{disfmarker}Grad C: Did {disfmarker} did {disfmarker} did it {disfmarker} ? I didn't even checkyesterday whether it was moving .PhD D: It didn't move yesterday either when I started it .Grad C: So.PhD D: So I don't know if it doesn't like both of us {disfmarker}Grad C: Channel three ? Channel three?PhD D: You know , I discovered something yesterday on these , um , wireless ones .Grad B: Channeltwo .Grad C: Mm - hmm ?PhD D: You can tell if it 's picking up {pause} breath noise and stuff .Grad C:Yeah , it has a little indicator on it {disfmarker} on the AF .PhD D: Mm - hmm . So if you {disfmarker}yeah , if you breathe under {disfmarker} breathe and then you see AF go off , then you know {pause} it's p picking up your mouth noise .PhD F: Oh , that 's good . Cuz we have a lot of breath noises .Grad C:Yep . Test .PhD F: In fact , if you listen to just the channels of people not talking , it 's like \" @ @ \" . It 'svery disgustGrad C: What ? Did you see Hannibal recently or something ?PhD F: Sorry . Exactly . It 'svery disconcerting . OK . So , um ,Grad C: PhD F: I was gonna try to get out of here , like , in half anhour , um , cuz I really appreciate people coming , and {vocalsound} the main thing that I was gonnaask people to help with today is {pause} to give input on what kinds of database format we should{pause} use in starting to link up things like word transcripts and annotations of word transcripts , soanything that transcribers or discourse coders or whatever put in the signal , {vocalsound} with time -marks for , like , words and phone boundaries and all the stuff we get out of the forced alignments andthe recognizer . So , we have this , um {disfmarker} I think a starting point is clearly the {disfmarker}the channelized {pause} output of Dave Gelbart 's program , which Don brought a copy of ,Grad C: Yeah. Yeah , I 'm {disfmarker} I 'm familiar with that . I mean , we {disfmarker} I sort of already havedeveloped an XML format for this sort of stuff .PhD F: um , which {disfmarker}PhD D: Can I see it ?GradC: And so the only question {disfmarker} is it the sort of thing that you want to use or not ? Have youlooked at that ? I mean , I had a web page up .PhD F: Right . So ,Grad C: So {disfmarker}PhD F: Iactually mostly need to be able to link up , or {disfmarker} I it 's {disfmarker} it 's a question both ofwhat the representation is and {disfmarker}Grad C: You mean , this {disfmarker} I guess I am gonna bestanding up and drawing on the board .PhD F: OK , yeah . So you should , definitely .Grad C: Um , so{disfmarker} so it definitely had that as a concept . So tha it has a single time - line ,PhD F: Mm - hmm.Grad C: and then you can have lots of different sections , each of which have I Ds attached to it , andthen you can refer from other sections to those I Ds , if you want to . So that , um {disfmarker} so thatyou start with {disfmarker} with a time - line tag . \" Time - line \" . And then you have a bunch of times .I don't e I don't remember exactly what my notation was ,PhD A: Oh , I remember seeing an example ofthis .Grad C: but it {disfmarker}PhD F: Right , right .PhD A: Yeah .Grad C: Yeah , \" T equals one pointthree two \" , uh {disfmarker} And then I {disfmarker} I also had optional things like accuracy , and then\" ID equals T one , uh , one seven \" . And then , {nonvocalsound} I also wanted to {disfmarker} to be ito be able to not specify specifically what the time was and just have a stamp .PhD F: Right .Grad C:Yeah , so these are arbitrary , assigned by a program , not {disfmarker} not by a user . So you have awhole bunch of those . And then somewhere la further down you might have something like an utterancetag which has \" start equals T - seventeen , end equals T - eighteen \" . So what that 's saying is , weknow it starts at this particular time . We don't know when it ends .PhD F: OK .Grad C: Right ? But it endsat this T - eighteen , which may be somewhere else . We say there 's another utterance . We don't knowwhat the t time actually is but we know that it 's the same time as this end time .PhD A: Mmm .Grad C:You know , thirty - eight , whatever you want .PhD A: So you 're essentially defining a lattice .Grad C: OK. Yes , exactly .PhD A: Yeah .Grad C: And then , uh {disfmarker} and then these also have I Ds . Right ?So you could {disfmarker} you could have some sort of other {disfmarker} other tag later in the file thatwould be something like , um , oh , I don't know , {comment} uh , {nonvocalsound} \" noise - typeequals {nonvocalsound} door - slam \" . You know ? And then , uh , {nonvocalsound} you could eithersay \" time equals a particular time - mark \" or you could do other sorts of references . So {disfmarker} or"} {"doc_id":"doc_137","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: Excellent . So um I sent you the agenda , it was on the {disfmarker} in the projectdocuments . I don't know if you got a chance to just have a look at it . Anyway , it's {disfmarker} themeeting's gonna follow more or less the same structure as last time , so we'll go round each of you inturn and you can give your presentations on what you've been up to . Um and at the end of that we needto discuss what you've come up with , so that we can make a decision on the key remote control concepts, so that's {disfmarker} we need to know about the components' properties , materials , the userinterface and any trends that the Marketing Expert has been watching .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Right .Project Manager: Okay . Um , do you wanna start again ?Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Okay.Project Manager: Let me {disfmarker}Industrial Designer: Right s {vocalsound}Project Manager: we'vegot forty minutes .Industrial Designer: so I haven't made a PowerPoint presentation ,Project Manager:{vocalsound} You haven't made a PowerPoint , okay .Industrial Designer: yeah , I I thought I'll use thewhiteboard instead .Project Manager: Mm-hmm .Industrial Designer: Um mm , {vocalsound}ProjectManager: Let's hope the pen holds out . {vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: okay, so basically I'll start off by {disfmarker} uh {vocalsound} I thought I'll use the whiteboard because wehave so many different options and what we can do is that we can start um uh rubbing off the optionsthat we do not require and putting in the options that uh are m or highlighting or underlining them orsomething like that .Project Manager: Mm-hmm .Industrial Designer: Okay , so uh I'll start again with abrief introduction to {disfmarker} connect that anyway {disfmarker} brief introduction to the insides of aremote controlProject Manager: Yeah .Industrial Designer: and uh then we can probably uh discuss thevarious components . Yeah . Okay , so w what you see here is {disfmarker} so {vocalsound} this is theoutside of the remote , right ? If you open it , you have a circuit board here , right ,Project Manager:Mm-hmm .Industrial Designer: and this is the chip that I was talking about last time . This basically sendsinformation to a tr uh transistor here , which then uh sends the information to an L_E_D_ device here . Ifyou flip the printed circuit board , and this is th the most important point here ,Project Manager:Mm-hmm .Industrial Designer: uh {vocalsound} everything else is kind of {disfmarker} Okay , so if youflip the circuit board , this is what it looks like . So you see for example a particular button attaches to aparticular place on the P_C_B_ and uhProject Manager: Yeah .Industrial Designer: on pressing this buttonI {disfmarker} a circuit completes , the information goes to the chip , which is somewhere here and thechip that tra then translates the code into an infra infrared radiation , which goes goes out through there. {vocalsound} So uh the important point that I read over the website was uh that the configurations ofthese printed circuit circuit boards uh are quite cheap to make , you can ge get them printed as you wantto ,Project Manager: Mm-hmm .Industrial Designer: so w we can have a configuration um irrespective ofthe cost , the way we want to have . Right ? So that's the important point here ,Project Manager:Mm-hmm .Industrial Designer: so these are the different options that we have . Okay . So the batteries ,I'll start with the battery , right ?Project Manager: Mm-hmm .Industrial Designer: So they can be simplewhich is like uh the normal batteries in uh our {disfmarker} uh the cells , yeah ?Project Manager: Yeah.Industrial Designer: Uh thes these are the kind {disfmarker} different kind of batteries that the companymakes , right ? So . And dynamos . Um {vocalsound}Marketing: Does that mean like a wind-up one?Industrial Designer: yeah , yeah .Marketing: {vocalsound} A wind-up remote .Industrial Designer: Souh I don't know if {disfmarker} even if you want to consider this ,User Interface: {vocalsound}IndustrialDesigner: but these are the different things that the company makes , so th they'll they'll{disfmarker}Project Manager: Okay .Industrial Designer: since uh they'll come internally from thecompany , they'll be eas uh cheaper , uh all these options .Project Manager: Mm-hmm .IndustrialDesigner: So {vocalsound} the third one is uh the kinetic energy ones .Marketing: You could make thehand dynamo into an exercise bike , and then people could exercise whilst watching T_V_ .IndustrialDesigner: Yeah .Project Manager: And charging their remote ,Marketing: Yeah , and stop worrying aboutthe whole R_S_I_ from the remote thing , 'cause that's just {disfmarker}Project Manager: yeah .UserInterface: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} {vocalsound} Yeah , it's a good option .Project"} {"doc_id":"doc_138","qid":"","text":"User Interface: .. .Project Manager: Okay . So , this is uh first meeting of this design project . Um and Ium like to show you the agenda for the meeting , I don't know if it was sent round to all of you .UserInterface: Mm , yeah .Project Manager: Maybe not . Anyway ,User Interface: I didn't receive it yet{vocalsound} .Project Manager: this is the the plan for today's meeting is um firstly just to introduce theproject briefly , um although I'm sure you've actually got some of the information already . Then themain purpose is to {disfmarker} so that we get to know each other a little bit more .Industrial Designer:Mm-hmm .Project Manager: Um then we want to practice using some of the tools that we'll be usingduring the the course of the design project and the meetings , um specifically the whiteboard over there .Um then we need to go through the specifics of our project plan um and discuss {disfmarker} come upwith some preliminary ideas about it . And then that's it . So we've got twenty five minutes to do that ,that's until eleven twenty five .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} {gap} so shProject Manager: S so anyany questions ?Industrial Designer: {gap} {vocalsound} {gap} .Project Manager: Is i {gap} not at thispoint .User Interface: Not at this point .Project Manager: So this is our project . What we're aiming to dois to create a new remote control for a television . Um we want it to be something original , somethingtrendy and also something user friendly , so it has to be quite intuitive that people are able to use thisproduct . The method that we're going to use to complete the project , that has three components assuch . There's the functional design of the the remote control . We're going {disfmarker} the way we'll dothat I think is to to work individually initially and then come together for meetings to to work on that . Umsimilarly with the conceptual design , we'll start off by working individually with our own expertise on ourown laptops and then we'll bring what we've done together . Um and then the detailed design will comeafter that . We'll pull it all together .Industrial Designer: I'm a bit confused about uh what's the differencebetween the functional design and conceptual design ? Uh i is it just uh more detail , uh as I understand it?Project Manager: I think it {disfmarker} th w we're talking the the functional design is more your umarea of things where you'll be {disfmarker} we want to look at what functions we need in the remotecontrolIndustrial Designer: Right .Project Manager: and what what specific things it it has to doIndustrialDesigner: {gap}Project Manager: but the conceptual design is um perhaps bigger than that and includesthe {disfmarker} how people are going to use it and and that kind of thing .Industrial Designer: How howit will be done . So whe where do we identify the components of our uh product ? Uh I think it's it's in theconceptual design phase that we identify the {disfmarker} it's in the conceptual design phase that weidentify the components of our product ?Project Manager: Um I think we'll we'll start that initially with thefunctional design already but thenIndustrial Designer: Okay .Project Manager: {disfmarker} yeah . Okay, so that's just a brief overview of the p the the project itself . Um what I'd like us to do now issimultaneously introduce ourselves and start using some of the tools that we're using for {vocalsound}for the project , specifically the whiteboard .Industrial Designer: Hmm .Project Manager: So each personin turn , I'd like us to go up to the whiteboard , the pen's just underneath it there and draw your favouriteanimal and then tell everyone what the f your favourite characteristics of that animal are and while you'redoing that tell us your name , what your role is and perhaps how your animal relates to the role thatyou're taking in this project . {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Marketing: Why are youlooking at me ?User Interface: {vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager: Would you like togo first ? {vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound} Do I have a choice ? {vocalsound}Industrial Designer:{vocalsound}Marketing: Okay . Ooh ooh , things falling everywhere .Project Manager: Oh , yeah,Marketing: Right , okay .Project Manager: p put them in pockets .Marketing: Cool . Okay .ProjectManager: You don't have to hurry , we've got plenty of time .Marketing: So , my name's Cat and I'mreally not very good at this whole drawing malarkeyIndustrial Designer: {vocalsound}Project Manager:{vocalsound}Marketing: so um {disfmarker}User Interface: {vocalsound}Marketing: Okay .UserInterface: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Project Manager: It's got no eyes .Marketing:Oh , good point . Ah , the eyes always ruin it . Right . Okay , what do {gap} it's eyes like ? Okay , cool .Um this is a rabbit . {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound} I"} {"doc_id":"doc_139","qid":"","text":"PhD F: OK .Professor B: Uh . Somebody else should run this . I 'm sick of being the one to sort of gothrough and say , \" Well , what do you think about this ? \" You wanna {disfmarker} ?PhD D: Yeah .PhD F:Should we take turns ? You want me to run it today ?Professor B: Yeah . Why don't you run it today ? OK.PhD F: OK . OK . Um . Let 's see , maybe we should just get a list of items {disfmarker} things that weshould talk about . Um , I guess there 's the usual {pause} updates , everybody going around and saying, uh , you know , what they 're working on , the things that happened the last week . But aside from thatis there anything in particular that anybody wants to bring upPhD D: Mmm .PhD F: for today ? No ? OK .So why don't we just around and people can give updates .PhD E: Oh .PhD F: Uh , do you want to start ,Stephane ?PhD C: Alright . Um . Well , the first thing maybe is that the p Eurospeech paper is , uh ,accepted . Um . Yeah .PhD F: This is {disfmarker} what {disfmarker} what do you , uh {disfmarker}what 's in the paper there ?PhD C: So it 's the paper that describe basically the , um , system that wereproposed for the {pause} Aurora .PhD F: The one that we s we submitted the last round ?PhD C: Right ,yeah .PhD D: Yeah .PhD F: Uh - huh .PhD C: Um {disfmarker} Yeah . So and the , fff {comment}comments seems {disfmarker} from the reviewer are good . So .PhD F: Hmm .PhD C: Mmm{disfmarker} Yeah .PhD F: Where {disfmarker} where 's it gonna be this year ?PhD C: It 's , uh , Aalborgin Denmark . And it 's ,PhD F: Oh , OK .PhD C: yeah , September .PhD F: Mmm .PhD C: Mmm{disfmarker} Yeah . Then , uh , whhh well , I 've been working on {disfmarker} on t mainly on on - linenormalization this week . Uh , I 've been trying different {disfmarker} slightly {disfmarker} slightlydifferent approaches . Um , the first thing is trying to play a little bit again with the , um , time constant .Uh , second thing is , uh , the training of , uh , on - line normalization with two different means , onemean for the silence and one for the speech . Um , and so I have two recursions which are controlled bythe , um , probability of the voice activity detector . Mmm . This actually don't s doesn't seem to help ,although it doesn't hurt . So . But {disfmarker} well , both {pause} on - line normalization approachseems equivalent . Well , they {disfmarker}PhD F: Are the means pretty different {pause} for the two?PhD C: Yeah . They can be very different . Yeah . Mm - hmm .PhD F: Hmm .Professor B: So do youmaybe make errors in different places ? Different kinds of errors ?PhD C: I didn't look , uh , more closely. Um . It might be , yeah . Mm - hmm . Um . Well , eh , there is one thing that we can observe , is thatthe mean are more different for {disfmarker} for C - zero and C - one than for the other coefficients .And {disfmarker} Yeah . And {disfmarker} Yeah , it {disfmarker} the C - one is {disfmarker} There arestrange {disfmarker} strange thing happening with C - one , is that when you have different kind ofnoises , the mean for the {disfmarker} the silence portion is {disfmarker} can be different . And{disfmarker}PhD F: Hmm .PhD C: So when you look at the trajectory of C - one , it 's {disfmarker} has astrange shape and I was expecting th the s that these two mean helps , especially because of the{disfmarker} the strange C - ze C - one shape , uh , which can {disfmarker} like , yo you can have , um ,a trajectory for the speech and then when you are in the silence it goes somewhere , but if the noise isdifferent it goes somewhere else .PhD F: Oh .PhD C: So which would mean that if we estimate the meanbased on all the signal , even though we have frame dropping , but we don't frame ev uh , dropeverything , but {disfmarker} uh , this can {disfmarker} hurts the estimation of the mean for speech ,and {disfmarker} Mmm . {comment} But I still have to investigate further , I think . Um , a third thing is, um , {vocalsound} that instead of t having a fixed time constant , I try to have a time constant that 'ssmaller at the beginning of the utterances to adapt more quickly to the r something that 's closer to theright mean . T t um {disfmarker} Yeah . And then this time constant increases and I have a thresholdthat {disfmarker}Professor B: Mm - hmm .PhD C: well , if it 's higher than a certain threshold , I keep itto this threshold to still , uh , adapt , um , the mean when {disfmarker} {vocalsound} if the utterance is ,uh , long enough to {disfmarker} to continue to adapt after , like , one secondProfessor B: Mm - hmm .Mm - hmm .PhD C: or {disfmarker} Mmm . Uh , well , this doesn't help neither , but this doesn't hurt . So, well . It seems pretty {disfmarker}PhD F: Wasn't there some experiment you were gonna try where youdid something differently for each , um , {vocalsound} uh {disfmarker} I don't know whether it was each"} {"doc_id":"doc_140","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: All hooked up . {vocalsound} Okay , so now we are here at the functional designmeeting . Um {vocalsound} hopefully this meeting I'll be doing a little bit less talking than I did last time'cause this is when you get to show us what you've been doing individually . The agenda for the meeting ,I put it in the sh shared documents folder . I don't know if that meant that you could see it or not .UserInterface: {vocalsound}Project Manager: Did anyone ?Industrial Designer: Mm .User Interface: No.Project Manager: No . Oh well . Um I'll try and do that for the next meeting as well so if you check inthere , there's a shared project documents folder . Um and it should be in there .User Interface: Mm . Umum wi on on a what ? Oh project project documents , yeah , yeah , yeah , okay .Project Manager: Projectdocuments , yeah . So I'll put it in there .User Interface: Oh okay , yeah .Project Manager: Is it best if Isend you an email maybe , to let you know it's there ?User Interface: Yes , I think so .Project Manager:Yep . I'll do that next time . Um {vocalsound} I'll act as secretary for this meeting and just take minutesas we go through , and then I'll send them to you after the meeting . The main the main focus of thismeeting is your presentations that you've been preparing during the time , so we'll go through each ofyou one by one . Um then we need to briefly discuss the new project requirements that were sent to us .I just sentUser Interface: Yeah , the last minute , yeah ,Project Manager: at the last minute , I'm sorryabout that ,User Interface: yeah .Project Manager: but we can see how that affects what you were youwere doing .User Interface: Yeah .Project Manager: Um and then we need to , by the end of the meetingcome to some kind of decision on who our target group's going to be and what the functions of theremote control {disfmarker} that's the the main goal is to come up with those two things , target groupand functions of the remote control . And we've got forty minutes to do that in . So I would say{disfmarker}Industrial Designer: You said uh targ target groups ,Project Manager: yeah ?IndustrialDesigner: what does that mean ?Project Manager: As uh who it is that we're going to be trying to sell thisthing to ,User Interface: {vocalsound} Um {disfmarker}Industrial Designer: Uh okay , 'kay .ProjectManager: yeah .Industrial Designer: So are {disfmarker}Project Manager: So we need to {disfmarker}yeah , we need to have a fairly defined group that that we want to focus onIndustrial Designer: Okay.Project Manager: and then look at the functions um of the dem remote control itself . So with that I thinkit's best if I hand over to you . Does anyone have a preference for going first ?Industrial Designer: Alright. {vocalsound} I can go first ,Project Manager: You wanna go first ?Industrial Designer: yeah .UserInterface: Okay . Hmm .Project Manager: Okay , so we need to unplug my laptop and plug in yours.Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Project Manager: I assume we just pull it out ?User Interface: Mm.Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} {vocalsound} Right . Um {vocalsound} so f from the{disfmarker}Project Manager: Just before you start , to make it easier , would you three mind emailingme your presentations ? Once we {disfmarker} you don't have to do it now but when {disfmarker} onceyou go back ,User Interface: Okay , yeah , afterwards , yeah , okay .Industrial Designer: Right sure.Project Manager: just so that I don't have to scribble everything down .Industrial Designer: Uh okay .{vocalsound} {vocalsound} So n uh with uh with regard to the {vocalsound} uh working design of thisuh uh remote control uh I've identified um {vocalsound} a few basic uh components of the remote anduh {vocalsound} se uh from the design , functional design perspective um w I c we can now uh knowwha what exactly the components are and how how they work together with each other . {vocalsound}{vocalsound} So {vocalsound} {vocalsound} this is the method that uh I'll mostly be following in my um{vocalsound} in my uh role . Um the identification of the components , uh and uh since since I'm dealingonly with the technical aspects , I would need feedback from the marketing person uh and {vocalsound}uh from the user interface person . Uh we'll then integrate this into the product design at a technicallevelProject Manager: Hmm .Industrial Designer: and uh basically update and come up with a new design, so it's a cyclical process . {vocalsound} Okay , so {vocalsound} these were the basic findings fromtoday . The last three bullets have been integrated from uh the last minute uh email . Uh I just quicklyjotted them down . Um {vocalsound} so basically uh the {disfmarker} as I told you the identification ofhow the remote control works and what are the various parts to it uh and what are the different"} {"doc_id":"doc_141","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: Hello .Marketing: Hey guys .User Interface: Hi .Industrial Designer: Hi .ProjectManager: Hi .Industrial Designer: I see my bunny is still standing .Project Manager: Yeah .IndustrialDesigner: No one drawing it .Project Manager: It's too beautiful .User Interface: Yeah , true .IndustrialDesigner: {vocalsound} Uh I figured uh that much . {vocalsound}Project Manager:{vocalsound}Marketing: Too wicked .User Interface: Mm .Marketing: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}{vocalsound}Project Manager: A minute please , my uh laptop is uh {disfmarker} oh , there it is , thankyou . So welcome back . {vocalsound} At the functional design meeting um the plan is uh that uh eachone of you , so not me but only you uh will uh present uh the the things you worked on uh the last uhhalf hour . I will uh take minutes and will put uh the minutes that I have uh at the end of the session inthe shared folder . {vocalsound} Also the minutes of the previous session are also in the shared foldernow , so you can read that uh now or afterwards . Um {vocalsound} uh I had an email from the from themanagement boardMarketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager: uh , I don't know if you a al also uhreceived it , but there were four points uh which uh I think are very important . First one is uh they thinkthat uh teletext teletext becomes outdated uh and internet will be the the main uh focus . {vocalsound}Uh second one is also important uh , because it's one of the discussion points of the previous session . Uhthe remote control shou should onl only be used for the television , so it uh not gonna it's not gonna be amulti-purpose remote control , so uh that's one thing to keep in mind .User Interface:{vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager: Uh second , and I think that's important for theMarketing uh Expert , uh the current uh customers uh are in the age group group of uh forty years andolder , but with this uh new remote uh they uh will uh {disfmarker} would like to reach uh a group uhyounger than uh forty . Uh and uh I think to keep in mind , but not really uh for now is that they uh wantthe the the slogan and the and the logo uh to uh to be recognised more in the remote .Marketing:{vocalsound}Project Manager: So , we have uh forty minutes , so I think uh not more than ten minutesuh uh per presentation uh each , and please uh use uh all the the the facilities so that you have eitherSMARTboards , the the Word files , what you uh {disfmarker} whatever you want . So uh Tim , can youstart ? Yeah ?Marketing: Okay . {vocalsound} 'Kay , welcome . I have some uh new findings on uhMarketing Expert level ,User Interface: Mm-hmm .Marketing: which I will show you . {vocalsound} Themethod I used was um giving orders to our usability lab uh to do a questionnaire . Um {vocalsound} onehundred respondents were involved and my marketing uh department generated a report with a lot ofresults . Um , these were a couple of findings , first page of three . Um , we have three audiences of{disfmarker} two audiences , {vocalsound} I'm sorry . Uh the first one , this scale , from sixteen to fortyfive {gap} age . Uh the second one is from sixty four {disfmarker} uh forty six to sixty five . Um , as youcan see here , the market share for the first audience is about sixty percent {disfmarker} um sixty five .Uh second audience audience is uh thirty five percent . Mm {vocalsound} and some interests from thefrom the age groups , uh it seems like the young users of remote controls really like the fancy uh newtechnology stuff , like uh an L_C_D_ screen on the remote control , um speech recognition . I don't thinkthat's uh really appropriate . Um , {vocalsound} and when you see uh the audience , the age is going upuh {disfmarker} Yeah , they don't really want it anymore , at least the new technologies . Secondfindings {vocalsound} out of the questionnaire um are the opinion {vocalsound} the opinions uh of theaudience about current remote controls . First point is , seventy five percent of the users find the mostrepo remote controls very ugly , uh and eighty percent of the users would spend more money when aremote control would look fancy . So that's maybe something for the User Interface uh Designer . Okay ,third findings . According to the frequency of use versus importance investigation , um {vocalsound}following buttons are most important . Um , I will tell something about the way this uh this test was ,yeah , done . Um , {vocalsound} persons were asked uh what the buttons were uh they use most , howmuch an hour ,Project Manager: Mm-hmm .Marketing: and uh in the second table the importance ofthose buttons . Um , when you multiply them , you get the {disfmarker} these three points . Switchingchannels , um yeah , that's pretty uh pretty normal , that's what you do with a remote control . Um the"} {"doc_id":"doc_142","qid":"","text":"Lynne Neagle AM: Good morning, everyone. Welcome to the Children, Young People and EducationCommittee this morning. I have received apologies for absence from Jack Sargeant, and I'm very pleasedto welcome Vikki Howells, who is substituting for Jack this morning. Can I ask whether there are anydeclarations of interest from Members, please? No. Okay. Thank you. Item 2 this morning is our lastevidence session on the Children (Abolition of Defence of Reasonable Punishment) (Wales) Bill, and I'mreally pleased to welcome back Julie Morgan AM, Deputy Minister for Health and Social Services; KarenCornish, who is deputy director of the children and families division; and Emma Gammon, who is thelawyer working on the Bill. So, thank you all for coming. If you're happy, we'll go straight into questionsbecause we've got lots of ground that we want to cover, and the first questions are from JanetFinch-Saunders.Janet Finch-Saunders AM: Good morning. Thank you, Chair. Good morning, DeputyMinister. Of those individuals who responded to our written consultation in a personal capacity, nearly 70per cent do not support this Bill. We also heard a clear message from the parents we met last week whooppose this Bill that, as parents, they understand clearly the difference between child abuse and a lightsmack from a loving parent. How would you like to respond to that?Julie Morgan AM: Thank you verymuch, Janet, for that question. I think I'd like to start by saying that child abuse is not the issue that theBill is trying to address. What the Bill is trying to do is prohibit all forms of physical punishment, and thatis in order to protect children's rights and to ensure that children have the same protection from physicalpunishment as adults. But I do understand that people have different views, and that's why this processhas been so important—for us to hear what your views are and what parents' views are. I know that,often, people use different euphemisms really to make light of physical punishment. I've heardexpressions used such as a 'light smack' or a 'loving smack' or a 'tap', and really there can be differentinterpretations of what is a 'light smack', what is a 'loving smack', and that doesn't really cover the issueof the frequency of such actions being taken. But I would say that, however mild it seems to be, theUnited Nations Committee on the Rights of the Child recognises that any physical punishment of children,however minor, is incompatible with their human rights, and why should a big person hit a little person?That's been the sort of mantra, really, that has taken me through supporting this legislation—that it justseems wrong to me that there is something in the law that could mean that there could be an excuse forthat happening. I believe we shouldn't have anything in the law that defends the physical punishment ofchildren, and I don't think we should be defining acceptable ways of hitting or punishing children, becauseI think it does send a confused message to children. It says, 'It's okay for me to hit you, but don't you hitanybody else.' I think it causes confusion. So, I'm confident that updating the law will make it muchclearer for parents and people working with children—and, of course, I'm sure, as you'll have heard fromthe evidence you've taken, that people who work with children are overwhelmingly in support of thislegislation, and the representative surveys that we've carried out show support for the Bill'sprinciples.Janet Finch-Saunders AM: Thank you, Deputy Minister. Last week, during the workshop, a fewparents—predominantly all of them, actually—said that they use a gentle tap or smacking as part of atoolkit of ways to deal with challenging behaviour or, sometimes, for the safety of the child or, indeed, tocarry out the parenting of a child. How do you intend to work with parents going forward, given the finiteresources that social care and social services have? I know from the responses we've received to theconsultation that parents themselves who have to parent 24 hours a day, seven days a week, they arereally, on the scale of things, very upset about this. How do you intend to try and get your messageacross to those parents on removing what they consider to be part of their toolkit when raising children?How do you intend to deal with that aspect?Julie Morgan AM: Well, first of all, I want to say, as I've saidin most evidence sessions, that I completely accept that bringing up children is hard. It's very difficult;many of us have done it and we know how tough it can be. But we don't think that there is any place forphysical punishment in bringing up children. There's a whole range of other ways that you can helpparents bring up children, and advice you can give them of different methods to use. But, the clearmessage of this Bill is that we don't want any physical punishment; we don't think it's the right thing to"} {"doc_id":"doc_143","qid":"","text":"Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound}Marketing:{vocalsound} Hmm .Project Manager: Okay . Good morning everybody . Um I'm glad you could all come. I'm really excited to start this team . Um I'm just gonna have a little PowerPoint presentation for us , forour kick-off meeting . My name is Rose Lindgren . I I'll be the Project Manager . Um our agenda today iswe are gonna do a little opening and then I'm gonna talk a little bit about the project , then we'll moveinto acquaintance such as getting to know each other a little bit , including a tool training exercise . Andthen we'll move into the project plan , do a little discussion and close , since we only have twenty fiveminutes . First of all our project aim . Um we are creating a new remote control which we have threegoals about , it needs to be original , trendy and user-friendly . I'm hoping that we can all work togetherto achieve all three of those . Um so we're gonna divide us up into three {vocalsound} compa three parts. First the functional design which will be uh first we'll do individual work , come into a meeting , theconceptional design , individual work and a meeting , and then the detailed design , individual work and ameeting . So that we'll each be doing our own ideas and then coming together and um collaborating .Okay , we're gonna get to know each other a little bit . So um , what we're gonna do is start off with umlet's start off with Amina . Um Alima ,Industrial Designer: Alima .Project Manager: sorry , Alima.Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}Project Manager: Um we're gonna do a little tooltraining , so we are gonna work with that whiteboard behind you . Um introduce yourself , um say onething about yourself and then draw your favourite animal and tell us about it .Industrial Designer: Okay .Um I don't know which one of these I have to bring with me .Project Manager: Probably both .IndustrialDesigner: {vocalsound} Right , so , I'm supposed to draw my favourite animal . I have no drawing skillswhatsoever . But uh let's see , introduce myself . My name is Alima Bucciantini . Um I'm from the state ofMaine in the US . I'm doing nationalism studies , blah , blah , blah , and I have no artistic talents .ProjectManager: How do you spell your name ?Industrial Designer: A_ L_ I_ M_ A_ .Project Manager: Thanks.Industrial Designer: Oh , and I guess I'm the Industrial Designer on this project . So let's see if I cangetMarketing: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: um here . I will draw a little turtle for youall . Not necessarily 'cause it's my absolute favourite animal , but just that I think they're drawable . Andyou have the pretty little shell going on . Some little eyes . Happy . There you go . That's a turtle.Marketing: Yes .Project Manager: So what are your favourite characteristics ?Industrial Designer: Um . II like the whole having a shell thing .Project Manager: Mm .Industrial Designer: It's quite cool carry yourhome around where you go , um quite decorative little animals , they can swim , they can , they're veryadaptable , they carry everything they need with them , um and they're easy to draw .Project Manager:{vocalsound} Excellent .User Interface: {vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound} Shall we just goaround the table ?User Interface: Uh Okay . Well , my name is Iain uhProject Manager: Mm .UserInterface: and I'm the User Interface Designer for the project . Um . And I'll try and draw my favouriteanimal .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} No ,User Interface: I'll {disfmarker} I should leave that one onthereIndustrial Designer: you can erase the turtle ,User Interface: shouldn't I {vocalsound} before Icallously rub it off .Industrial Designer: it's alright .Project Manager: Might be nice to have them all upthere at same time .User Interface: {vocalsound} Um I'm not gonna draw it quite to scale um .IndustrialDesigner: {vocalsound}User Interface: {vocalsound} Is that at least identifiable ?Industrial Designer:Snake .Marketing: Well .Project Manager: EmIndustrial Designer: Well ,User Interface: It's a whale{vocalsound} , yes .Industrial Designer: snake ? {vocalsound} It's w {vocalsound}User Interface:{vocalsound} Thanks .Marketing: Oh my god , it's better than what I'm gonna be able to do .UserInterface: {vocalsound} Um and , yeah , the reason I like whales is 'cause uh they're {disfmarker} well ,first of all they're quite intelligent um and also they're they're kind of mysterious , like we don't reallyknow much about them or or understand how they work , how they form groups . And I just find theminteresting animals .Marketing: Take my contraptions with me . Alright , I'm Jessy . I'm from aroundD_C_ ish sort of in the U_S_ . And we're gonna keep the deep sea sort of theme going on , {gap} animal. Don't really know how to draw this . Just where can I {disfmarker} Mm . Mm . Maybe if I do the water"} {"doc_id":"doc_144","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: {vocalsound} Alright , yeah . {gap} crack on {gap} . Okay so we'll start off with aquick overview of the minutes . I think to sum up the last meeting , would be to say um the requirementsthat we've um set out . Those are we were going to go for what seemed to be a fairly minimal designbased on uh a small joystick , {vocalsound} L_C_D_ and a couple of other buttons for navigation um withpower being I suppose one of the main single purpose buttons . Um we were also going to use {gap}novelty of being able to locate the remote control again via a small transmitter with any luck , the idea totry and separate us and also because of the minimal design um looks like we'll be able to be fairlyadventurous in the actual physical shape of our remote control with any luck . Um that pretty much sumsup the last one . So we'll just crack on , um like to maybe start with the Industrial Designer if it's possible.Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Uh uh okay .Project Manager: Um uh the con today is the conceptoday .Industrial Designer: I'll just {disfmarker}Project Manager: This uh meeting is the conceptualdesign phase and is um {disfmarker} Sorry about this . {gap} . And is to cover things like um what theparts might be made of , um , can we uh outsource these from elsewhere , um will we have to constructany items ourselves ?Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Uh I have a presentation {gap} I just saved it inthe uh the folder .Project Manager: Yeah , okay well I'll just uh I'll load it up then . Um {vocalsound} .Which one do yIndustrial Designer: Uh .Project Manager: Oh , interface concept ?User Interface: Yeah ,that's me .Project Manager: That's you . We've got trend watching , that's you .Industrial Designer: It'suh {disfmarker} Components design .Project Manager: Components design .Industrial Designer: {gap}.Project Manager: Okay .Industrial Designer: Alright . {vocalsound} So {disfmarker} {vocalsound} Uh .The case uh le that's what I wrote first of all , could be plastic our plastic . Uh but later on {gap} wefound out that um it can be rubber as well , or titanium or even wood . So uh we decide what it's gonnabe . Probably plastic . Uh we need the infra-red transmitter . Get that off the shelf . Uh joystick we'llprobably if we're gonna use it , um could be plastic w or rubber even as well . Um {vocalsound} if you goon to the next slide . Uh {disfmarker} {vocalsound} If you go on to f uh findings , it's like two or threeslides down .Project Manager: Okay .Industrial Designer: Right . So , this is what I found we can use . Uhthree different types of batteries . Um can either use a hand dynamo , or the kinetic type ones , youknow that they use in watches , or else uh a solar powered one .Project Manager: Okay . Now ,IndustrialDesigner: Um .Project Manager: the kinetic one , we've {disfmarker} 'cause that's the ones where likeyou {disfmarker} the movement causes it .Marketing: Cost is {disfmarker} Yeah .Industrial Designer:{vocalsound} Yeah .Project Manager: Um the bat uh the battery for a a watch wouldn't require a lot ofpower , would be my one query .User Interface: Mm .Project Manager: Is a kinetic one going to be ableto supply enough power ?User Interface: There's also a watch moves around a great deal more .ProjectManager: Do you think ?Industrial Designer: Uh .Marketing: {vocalsound} Yeah .Project Manager:WIndustrial Designer: Yeah , I don't think it would . Um . And solar cells , I dunno about that .Marketing:{gap} yeah .Industrial Designer: Uh . We should probably just use conventional batteries . Um , just likein usual remote controls .Project Manager: Which I suppose as well would allow us to go off the shelfagain , you'd say ?Industrial Designer: Um . Yeah . Um . {vocalsound} And these are three differenttypes of {disfmarker} or two different types {disfmarker} three different types of shapes you can have .Uh one is a flat one , and then more original ones are single curved one or one with a double curved . Um{vocalsound} the materials are tha there as you can see , but uh you can't have a titanium one for adouble curved ,Project Manager: {vocalsound}Marketing: Titanium , the really strong metal , titanium?Industrial Designer: uh which would be {disfmarker} Yeah ,Marketing: Is it not also it's expensive?Industrial Designer: and light . Uh , i think so as well , yeah .Project Manager: Um . Um .IndustrialDesigner: They make mountain bikes out of that , don't they . So it's really light as well .Project Manager:Curious . Um , I don't know if you'd be able to off the top of your head or not , the single curved anddouble curved , would you be able to give an example ?Industrial Designer: Um . {vocalsound} T yeah.Project Manager: Um could you maybe draw something ? I you don't doesn't have to be perfect , it's just'cause I'm not quite sure if I understand the difference between the two .Industrial Designer: Uh . Well"} {"doc_id":"doc_145","qid":"","text":"PhD E: OK .Professor B: OK , so {pause} We {disfmarker} we had a meeting with , uh {disfmarker} withHynek , um , in {disfmarker} in which , uh , uh , Sunil and Stephane , uh {vocalsound} summarizedwhere they were and {disfmarker} and , uh , talked about where we were gonna go . So that{disfmarker} that happened sort of mid - week . Uh .PhD E: D did {disfmarker} did you guys get yourcode pushed together ?PhD D: Oh , yeah . Yeah . It 's {disfmarker} it 's {disfmarker} it 's {disfmarker} itwas updated yesterday ,PhD E: Cool .PhD D: right ?PhD A: Yeah .PhD D: Yeah .PhD A: You probablyreceived the mail .PhD E: Oh , right , I saw {disfmarker} I saw the note .PhD A: Yeah .PhD E: Mm - hmm.Professor B: What was the update ?PhD A: What was the update ? So there is th then {disfmarker} the{disfmarker} all the new features that go in .Professor B: Yeah .PhD A: The , um , noise suppression , there - synthesis of speech after suppression . These are the {disfmarker}PhD E: Is the , um {disfmarker}the CVS mechanism working {pause} well ?PhD A: Yeah .PhD E: Are {disfmarker} are people , uh , up atOGI grabbing code uh , via that ?PhD D: Uh , I don't think {disfmarker} I don't think {disfmarker}PhD E:Or {disfmarker} ?PhD A: I don't know if they use it , but .PhD D: Yeah , I I don't think anybody up thereis like {pause} working on it right now .PhD E: Uh - huh . Mmm .Professor B: I think it more likely thatwhat it means is that when Sunil is up there {vocalsound} he will grab it .PhD D: Yeah . Yeah . So rightnow nobody 's working on Aurora there .PhD E: Yeah .Professor B: They 're {disfmarker} Yeah . They 'reworking on a different task .PhD E: I see . I see .PhD D: Yeah .PhD E: OK .Professor B: But what 'llhappen is {disfmarker} is he 'll go back up there and , uh , Pratibha will come back from {disfmarker}from , uh , the east coast . Uh .PhD E: Mm - hmm .Professor B: And , uh {disfmarker} and {disfmarker}and I guess actually , uh , after Eurospeech for a little bit , uh , he 'll go up there too . So , actuallyeverybody {vocalsound} who 's working on it {comment} will be up there for at least a little while . Sothey 'll remotely access it {vocalsound} from there .PhD E: So has {disfmarker} Has anybody triedremotely accessing the CVS using , uh , uh , SSH ?Professor B: Yeah . PhD A: Um , I don't know if Haridid that or {disfmarker} You dPhD D: I {comment} can actually do it today . I mean , I can just log into{disfmarker}PhD E: Have you tried it yet ?PhD D: No , I didn't . So I I 'll try it today .PhD E: OK.Professor B: Good idea .PhD A: Actually I {disfmarker} I tried wh while {disfmarker} when I installedthe {pause} repository , I tried from Belgium .Professor B: Yeah .PhD D: Yeah .PhD A: I logged in thereand I tried {pause} to import {disfmarker}PhD E: Yeah ? It worked good ?PhD A: Yeah , it works .PhD E:Oh , good !PhD A: But it 's {disfmarker} So , right now it 's the mechanism with SSH .PhD D: Oh .PhD E:Great !PhD A: I don't {pause} s I didn't set up {disfmarker} You can also set up a CVS server {pause}on a new port . It 's like well {pause} uh , a main server , or d You can do a CVS server .PhD E: Yeah .Right . Then that 's using the CVS password mechanism and all that ,PhD A: But . Yeah , right .PhD E:right ?PhD A: But I didn't do that because I was not sure about {pause} security problems . I{disfmarker} I would have to {disfmarker}PhD E: So w when you came in from Belgian {disfmarker}{comment} Belgium , using SSH , uh , was it asking you for your own {pause} password into ICSI ? So ifyo you can only do that if you have an account at ICSI ?PhD A: Right . Yeah .PhD E: OK .PhD A: Yeah.PhD E: Cuz there is an {disfmarker} a way to set up anonymous CVS right ?PhD A: Yeah , you ha in thisway you ca you have to set up a CVS server but then , yeah , you can access it .PhD E: So that{disfmarker} Oh , OK .PhD A: you {disfmarker} you can set up priorities .PhD E: So the anonymousmechanism {disfmarker}PhD A: You can access them and mostly if you {disfmarker} if y the set theserver is set up like this .PhD E: OK . Because a lot of the open source stuff works with anonymous CVSand I 'm just wondering {disfmarker} Uh , I mean , for our transcripts we may want to do that .PhD A:Mm - hmm .Professor B: Yeah .PhD E: Uh .Professor B: Yeah , for this stuff I don't think we 're {pause}quite up to that . I mean , we 're still so much in development .PhD E: Mm - hmm . Yeah ,Professor B:We want to have just the insiders .PhD E: yeah , yeah . Oh , I wasn't suggesting for this . I 'm {pause}thinking of the Meeting Recorder {comment} stuffProfessor B: Yeah .PhD E: but . Yeah . OK . Cool.Professor B: Yeah . So , uh {disfmarker}PhD E: What 's new ?Professor B: Well , I mean , I think maybethe thing to me might be {disfmarker} I me I 'm sure you 've just been working on {disfmarker} on , uh"} {"doc_id":"doc_146","qid":"","text":"PhD B: We 're , I mean {pause} we {disfmarker} We didn't have a house before .Professor D: Yeah .Yeah .PhD E: OK .Professor D: We 're on again ? OK .PhD A: Mm - hmm . That is really great .Grad H:Yeah , so if {pause} uh {disfmarker} {pause} So if anyone hasn't signed the consent form , please do so.PhD A: That 's terrific .PhD B: Oh , yeah !Professor D: OKGrad H: The new consent form . The new andimproved consent form .PhD A: Now you won't be able to walk or ride your bike , huh ?Professor D: OK.Postdoc F: Uh .PhD B: Right .Professor D: OK .Grad H: And uh , shall I go ahead and do some digits?Professor D: Uh , we were gonna do that at the end , remember ?Grad H: OK , whatever you want.Professor D: Yeah . Just {disfmarker} just to be consistent , from here on in at least , that {disfmarker}{pause} that we 'll do it at the end .PhD B: The new consent form .Grad H: It 's uh {disfmarker} {pause}Yeah , it doesn't matter . OK .Professor D: OK Um Well , it ju I mean it might be that someone here hasto go ,Postdoc F: Testing , one , two , three .Professor D: and {disfmarker} Right ? That was{disfmarker} that was sort of the point . So , uh {pause} I had asked actually anybody who had anyideas for an agenda {pause} to send it to me and no one did . So ,Grad H: So we all forgot .Professor D:Uh ,Postdoc F: From last time I wanted to {disfmarker} Uh {pause} {pause} The {disfmarker} An iss uh{pause} one topic from last time .Professor D: Right , s OK , so one item for an agenda is uh {pause}Jane has some uh {vocalsound} uh some research to talk about , research issues . Um {pause} and{pause} Uh , Adam has some short research issues .Grad H: And I have some {pause} short researchissues .Professor D: Um , I have a {pause} list of things that I think were done over the last threemonths I was supposed to {vocalsound} {vocalsound} send off , uh {pause} and , um {pause} I{disfmarker} I sent a note about it to uh {disfmarker} to Adam and Jane but I think I 'll just run throughit {pause} also and see if someone thinks it 's inaccurate or {pause} uh insufficient .PhD A: A list thatyou have to send off to who ?Professor D: Uh , to uh uh , IBM .PhD A: Oh .Professor D: OK . They 're ,you know {disfmarker}PhD E: Professor D: So . Um , So , uh {pause} so , I 'll go through that . Um ,{pause} And , Anything else ? {pause} anyone wants to talk about ?PhD A: What about the , um{disfmarker} your trip , yesterday ?Professor D: No . OK . Um . Sort of off - topic I guess .PhD A: Oh ,OK .Professor D: Cuz that 's {pause} Cuz that was all {disfmarker} all about the , uh {disfmarker} I{disfmarker} I {disfmarker} I can chat with you about that {pause} off - line . That 's another thing . Um, And , Anything else ? Nothing else ? Uh , there 's a {disfmarker} I mean , there is a {disfmarker}{pause} a , um {pause} uh {pause} telephone call tomorrow , {pause} which will be a conference call{pause} that some of us are involved in {pause} for uh a possible proposal . Um , we 'll talk{disfmarker} we 'll talk about it next week if {disfmarker} if something {disfmarker}Grad H: Do youwant me to {pause} be there for that ? I noticed you C C ' ed me , but I wasn't actually a recipient . Ididn't quite know what to make of that .Professor D: Uh Well , we 'll talk {disfmarker} talk about thatafter our meeting . OK .Grad H: OK .Professor D: Uh , OK . So it sounds like the {disfmarker} the threemain things that we have to talk about are , uh this list , uh Jane and {disfmarker} Jane and Adam havesome research items , and , other than that , anything , {pause} as usual , {pause} anything goesbeyond that . OK , uh , Jane , since {disfmarker} since you were sort of cut off last time why don't westart with yours , make sure we get to it .Postdoc F: OK , it 's {disfmarker} it 's very {pause} eh{disfmarker} it 's {pause} very brief , I mean {disfmarker} just let me {disfmarker} just hand these out. Oops .Grad H: Is this the same as the email or different ?PhD C: Thanks .Postdoc F: It 's slightlydifferent . I {disfmarker} {pause} basically the same .Grad H: OK .PhD A: Same idea ?Postdoc F: But ,same idea . So , if you 've looked at this you 've seen it before , so {pause} Basically , {vocalsound} um{pause} as you know , uh {pause} part of the encoding {pause} includes a mark that indicates {pause}an overlap . It 's not indicated {pause} with , um {pause} uh , tight precision , it 's just indicated that{disfmarker} OK , so , It 's indicated to {disfmarker} to {disfmarker} so the people know {pause} whatparts of sp which {disfmarker} which stretches of speech were in the clear , versus being overlapped byothers . So , I {pause} used this mark and , um {pause} and , uh {pause} uh , {pause} divided the{disfmarker} I wrote a script {pause} which divides things into individual minutes , {pause} of which we"} {"doc_id":"doc_147","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: Alright ? Alright . Thank you for coming to this third meeting of the uh uh design group .Um I think we uh made some definite progress at the last one um and come up with some interesting uhuh w suggestions for our our new remote control . Um I'll again very quickly uh just present some notesof that meeting . Um {vocalsound} the the the problem with existing remote controls , we felt , was thatthey're ugly um and that people are prepared to pay a premium for something better . Um they've gotlots of buttons on them that uh people don't use and find difficult to learn . Um and people lose them .And {vocalsound} We we thought that f for our our new uh uh remote control that everybody will want torush out and buy , um {vocalsound} that we're {disfmarker} {vocalsound} we should look at speechrecognition rather than r rather than buttons , and that if we have any buttons they should be very few ofthem and only for those functions that are actually identified that that people use . That {disfmarker} um{vocalsound} we want to go for uh a long lasting battery that we gua we guarantee for the life of the uhuh the product and a shape that will be instantly recognisable , A_ um as uh a trendy remote control ,and and B_ as uh a Real Reaction product . So that w uh when people are uh happy with that , they willthey will want to buy uh everything else from us . Uh {disfmarker} {vocalsound} Okay . So again um ,I'll {disfmarker} we'll have the three three presentations from the the the three of you and then uh we'llwe'll make a a final a final uh decision . Um and the the decisions that we need to to make today , finally ,are um what energy source we want to use , whether i it is practical to use uh um a a a long lasting one .And uh I I think our discussion was around the fact that uh if we're gonna go for uh a long lasting powersupply , then basically it's uh sealed for life and uh if anybody does manage to run one down , we'll we'llgive them another one . And uh it it'll be uh , you know , prominently displayed as part of the th theadvertising literature that it's um um , you know , for life , guaranteed for life . Um {vocalsound} now thethe the internal chip um {disfmarker} and uh this is where I need uh uh Kate's expert adviceIndustrialDesigner: {vocalsound}Project Manager: and given that {vocalsound} th this has to to go to market asquickly as possible um d d do we go for a custom designed chip ? Or or do we buy one off the shelf andand programme it ourselves ? Uh I mean I'm I'm I'm n not an expert on these things , but presumably ,there must be loads of 'em already on the market that we can modify .Industrial Designer:{vocalsound}Project Manager: But uh that that's uh that's your area of expertise . And then the uh , youknow , the the overall design of the case uh is is is Kendra's field and uhUser Interface:{vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound} we we had somediscussions last time as as to uh how we might go forward and we'll we'll finalise those uh da today . Umand thi this is all linked in with the the the user interface , whether we p um {vocalsound} go for voice ,buttons , or or a bit of both . Uh and then uh , you know , f for the next meeting Kate will be looking atthe the the s the look , feel and design , Kendra the uh ho how the the user actually uses it and andAndrew of course the the product evaluation . And uh Kate and Kendra will be producing a a model for usto uh to look at .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}User Interface: {vocalsound}Project Manager: Uh so ,if if we can have the the three presentations again please , and uh um p perhaps you'd like to start uh k.Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Okay . Um {disfmarker}Project Manager: Kate . Oh I'm sorry , ohsorry .Industrial Designer: Um p there we go .Project Manager: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer:{vocalsound} 'Kay , I'll just be talking about the components design . And {disfmarker} {vocalsound}Okay , basically I just uh looked at what exactly do remotes do . Uh basically they wait for you to press akey or give a voice command and then this is translated uh into uh light signals which are then seen bythe T_V_ . Uh the materials we're gonna need to look at {disfmarker} uh the two big ones are theintegrated circuit chip and the battery and the in integrated circuit chip uh works in conjunction with a adiode transistor or resonator , uh two more resistors and a capacitor and the battery works in conjunctionwith a resistor and a capacitor . Um . {vocalsound} Uh basically what happens is you'll press a number orgive a voice command and this creates a a connection within the the remote that allows the chip{disfmarker} the chip then senses this connection and produces a signal in a Morse code format . Thissignal's sent to the transistor which amplifies it and then sends it on to the light emitting diode and uh"} {"doc_id":"doc_148","qid":"","text":"Lynne Neagle AM: Good morning, everyone. Welcome to the Children, Young People and EducationCommittee this morning. I've received apologies for absence from Siân Gwenllian, and I'm very pleasedto welcome Helen Mary Jones, who is substituting for Siân today. Can I ask whether Members want todeclare any interests, please? Can I just, then, place on record that I have got a son who was about to doA-levels, so is affected by the exam decision? We'll move on, then, to our substantive item today, whichis an evidence session with the Welsh Government around the impact of the coronavirus pandemic oneducation in Wales. I'm very pleased to welcome Kirsty Williams, Minister for Education; Steve Davies,who is director of the education directorate; Huw Morris, who is the group director, skills, highereducation and lifelong learning; and Rob Orford, who is the chief scientific adviser for health. Thank youall for coming. We know that this is a really difficult and pressurised time for everyone, and we appreciateyour attendance. Minister, I understand you wanted to make an opening statement today.Kirsty WilliamsAM: Yes, if that's okay, Chair. As you know, it's not usually my practice to do that, but I think it isimportant today. COVID-19 coronavirus is one of the most significant issues that the Welsh Governmentand the people of Wales have dealt with in recent times. Dealing with the impacts of this pandemic isextremely challenging. Things are changing on an hourly basis, and we have to make decisions quickly toensure public safety. But I would like to assure you that our aim, and my aim, and my main concern asthe education Minister is to protect all staff and pupils in our schools and other educational settings. Butwe also have a duty to ensure continuing and continuity of education. Public health is clearly the priorityhere, but that does not change our belief that no child should miss out on any education, unlessabsolutely necessary. So, the decision to close all schools from tomorrow for statutory educationprovision was not taken lightly, but I believe it was necessary, given the advice and recommendationsthat we had received from a public health perspective and the situation that was developing on theground. From next week, schools will have a new purpose. They will help support those most in need,including people involved in the immediate response to the coronavirus outbreak, and I'm working withmy colleagues in the Cabinet, with Government officials and our partners in local government to developand finalise these plans. The key areas that we're looking at are supporting and safeguarding thevulnerable and ensuring continuity of learning. This includes all of those who benefit from free schoolmeals and children with additional learning needs. I can confirm that all maintained schools in Walesalready have access to a range of digital tools that can support distance learning through the world-classHwb digital learning platform, including virtual classrooms and video-conferencing facilities. A guide onwhat tools are available and how schools can use them has been developed and is being promotedwidely. Yesterday, I announced that, whilst there are no easy choices, we have agreed that the best wayforward is not to proceed with the summer exam series. Learners due to sit these exams will be awardeda fair grade to recognise their work, drawing on a range of information that is available, and I willannounce further details shortly, but I felt it necessary to give early certainty to students and to staff. Iwould like to put on record my thanks to everyone working in education settings for the hard work thatthey have put in over the last few months in dealing with the virus and ensuring that pupils have beenable to continue to learn. We need to continue to do this work together, as we face the continuingchallenges posed by the coronavirus. Diolch yn fawr.Lynne Neagle AM: Thank you very much, Minister,for that statement. We'll go to questions from Members now, and I've got some questions from DawnBowden.Dawn Bowden AM: Thank you, Chair. Can I thank you, Kirsty, for your statement and the reallydifficult decisions that you've been having to make? You've already indicated in your statement thismorning that these decisions are not taken lightly, and we understand that that is the case acrossGovernment. So, thank you for what you've been doing. You've outlined a little bit further there in yourstatement to us this morning about the new purpose. I take from what you're saying that you haven'treally developed that yet in terms of exactly what that is going to look like. You've talked about thechildren of key workers, free school meals, additional learning needs. Is there anything else you can tellus about that at the moment and how you might staff the schools in those particular areas?Kirsty"} {"doc_id":"doc_149","qid":"","text":"Marketing: Right first time this time . Nu There we go . It's not that complicated , but I get it wrong everytime . {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Okay so we are just waiting for Matthew {gap} .Marketing: ForMatthew , yep .Project Manager: Mm . Uh {disfmarker} So I suggest we start the meeting uh withoutMatthew uhMarketing: Mm-hmm .Industrial Designer: Mm 'kay .Project Manager: he's uh obviously latefor some reason . {vocalsound} Good . Um . Today uh we will uh talk about uh conceptual design . I hopeuh you both did some uh some work uh concerning a uh conceptual design .Marketing: Mm-hmm .ProjectManager: Um this will be the uh agenda for the meeting uh {gap} . Uh I will take some minutes uh again.Marketing: Mm-hmm .Project Manager: Um we will have the presentations of y of you different teammembers ,Marketing: Yep .Industrial Designer: Yep .Project Manager: and then try to come to decisionsuh about the concepts uh you have presented . So and that uh will uh {disfmarker}Industrial Designer:Mm-hmm .Project Manager: we have some uh forty minutes uh to complete this uh .Marketing: Mm-hmm.Project Manager: So um who has the fir do you ha Anna do you have your presentation ready?Marketing: I have a presentation , I'm just making this {disfmarker}Industrial Designer: Yeah I think{disfmarker} {vocalsound} yeah the {disfmarker} Matthew it is it's important that Matthew yeah ishereProject Manager: Okay . AhIndustrial Designer: because it's really a a team uh project with ateamProject Manager: there is Matthew .Industrial Designer: and if someone is not here then we cannot{disfmarker}User Interface: Sorry .Industrial Designer: but it's okay {vocalsound} it's good .{vocalsound}Marketing: Okay I'll just email you this file , my presentation .Project Manager: So . Good .Do {gap} presentation ready ?Marketing: Mm-hmm I'm just emailing it to you .Project Manager: Oh okay.Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}User Interface: So {disfmarker}Project Manager: So did you manageuh {disfmarker}User Interface: Yeah I sent you the slides , you didn't see them ?Project Manager: Ohyes I see him , good yes .User Interface: Okay . {gap} .Project Manager: No .User Interface:{vocalsound} So {disfmarker} {vocalsound} 'Kay .Marketing: Okay it should've gone through to you.User Interface: {vocalsound}Project Manager: Okay mm yes I have it .User Interface:{vocalsound}Marketing: Mm-hmm . Okay so this is just a presentation on uh the trends that we're gonnause to make the product stand out from the rest of the products out there at the moment . Um can I justput this on ? So we have to work out a way {disfmarker} what we can do with our product to make itstand out and make it so people wanna buy it . Um . This is {disfmarker} to do this I will not remove mymicrophone . {vocalsound} We basically used um some focus group surveys which I went through withyou last time , the main results of that , and um some research on the current design um and fashiontrends that are out there at the moment um ,Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Marketing: and as part ofthis {disfmarker} The important aspects that came out were things that we've already discussed really .The most important by far was the look and feel of it . It needs to be something that's very different fromeverything else out there . It needs to stand out {vocalsound} . It needs to be not functional like the restof the things out there at the moment . Most people find remote controls boring at the moment , we needto have something that looks interesting , that looks exciting , that will stand out . People will wanna buyit . Um {disfmarker} That was twice as i important as the next item on here which is that it has to betechnologically innovative {disfmarker} has to have something else , apart from just the look of it .People have to then think about it and say {gap} got something there that I want . That's a really coolfeature , and it has to make them wanna buy it again . Third on the list , and again innovative was twiceas important as this last um aspect , it has to be easy to use . So they have to be able to {disfmarker} beable to look at it and have some intuitive idea of how to use it um . Drawing on the fashion trends at themoment , uh fruit and vegetables um . This is basically talking about just the the feel of it , so probablynot the smell of it , but the bright colours , um eye-catching , really bold designs , and a spongy feel.User Interface: {vocalsound}Project Manager: Mm .Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .Project Manager: Mm.Marketing: Um I had a talk to the design people about this , but having a remote that's tactile , that feelsdifferent , that would be really cool . That would make it stand out . Um .Project Manager: Hmm.Industrial Designer: So can you repeat and be more precise about what you just said ?Project Manager:"} {"doc_id":"doc_150","qid":"","text":"Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} I'm proud of it . {vocalsound}User Interface: {vocalsound}ProjectManager: Okay . This is our final meeting , the detailed design meeting . And again I'll take minutes . The{disfmarker} what we have to get through in this meeting is firstly the prototype presentation from youtwo , so you can show us what you've been working on so diligently .User Interface: Yeah .Marketing: Itdoes look very cool .Project Manager: Um thenIndustrial Designer: {vocalsound}Project Manager:{vocalsound} then Cat's going to present the evaluation criteria that we're going to be evaluating thisagainst .User Interface: {vocalsound}Project Manager: Then I need to say some st a few things aboutfinance , 'cause we have to check that it's within the finance criteria . Um and then we'll be making surethat our product fits both the evaluation criteria from Cat and the financial limits . Um and then we uh willhave a brief evaluation of the whole process of production and design that we've been through . So we'vegot forty minutes . SMarketing: And then do we get to make a remote control ?Industrial Designer:{vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound} 'Cause we missed out .User Interface:{vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound} Yeah .Project Manager: SoIndustrial Designer:{vocalsound}Project Manager: it's now {disfmarker} I guess that we're supposed to start at fifteen thirtyfive , so we've got until four fifteen .Industrial Designer: Uh-huh . How how much do we have , fortyminutes ?Project Manager: Is that right ?User Interface: Yeah , about four fifteen , yeah .ProjectManager: Yeah ,Industrial Designer: Yeah .Marketing: Yeah .Project Manager: until about four fifteen . Soyeah . {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Okay , so .Project Manager: Go for it . Do youwant {disfmarker}User Interface: So , you said um {disfmarker} are are we starting with the the{disfmarker}Project Manager: Yes .Industrial Designer: Presentation .User Interface: so will you maybestart with like the mm the shape and things and and then I will explain the the user interface th uh things, like the buttons and the scrolling things and {disfmarker}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Okay .{vocalsound} Okay . So um basically going with our trend of vegetables and {vocalsound} {disfmarker}we selected the colour and approximate shape of banana .Project Manager: {vocalsound}User Interface:{vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound} You think bananas are a safe thing to use ?Project Manager:{vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Um {disfmarker} {vocalsound}Marketing: It's a bit umphallic .Industrial Designer: Yeah . Um {disfmarker}Project Manager: {vocalsound}User Interface:{vocalsound} Well , but it's it's just an a approximation . {vocalsound}Project Manager: Dual use ,perfect .Industrial Designer: Yeah . {vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound} Dual use , perfect .UserInterface: {vocalsound}Marketing: Oh , {vocalsound} {gap} your remote control ? Oh that's just bad .{vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound} Does it vibrate when you press the buttons ?IndustrialDesigner: {vocalsound} Um so basically it's the it's the flip open thing again .Project Manager: Sorry ,sorry .User Interface: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: So now we we have the {disfmarker} okay,Project Manager: Mm-hmm .Industrial Designer: so Ma Maarika will explain you the user interface there .And it flips open on the side , so it opens like that . And we have the user interface o in hereProjectManager: Mm-hmm . Wow .Industrial Designer: and uh {vocalsound} the the L_C_D_ and and the scrollare inside . Um well , everything else is probably user interface , so . Yeah , yeah .Project Manager: Andit's {disfmarker} the whole thing's made of rubber , is that {disfmarker}User Interface: Uh yeah.Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Oh yeah . Yeah , it has , yeah .User Interface: Rubber .Marketing: Isit to scale , or do you think you can make it a bit smaller ?User Interface: Yeah , {gap} . Um it could bemade a bit smaller , and and of course it would be {gap} and {disfmarker}Marketing: Yeah .UserInterface: {vocalsound} yeah , but um one thing we actually kind of um forgot while designing , that oneside was supposed to be rounder ,Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yeah ,User Interface: so we said theback side round , yeah .Industrial Designer: well , but i since it's made of rubber anyway . I I think it's it'suh {disfmarker}Project Manager: Mm-hmm .Marketing: It l does look like the {gap} curvyUser Interface:Yeah .Marketing: and then the whole shape's curvy , so I would say that this curvy does look quite like avegetable .Industrial Designer: Yeah .Project Manager: Yeah .Industrial Designer: Mm . Hmm .UserInterface: Yeah . And it's spongy as well . {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Marketing:"} {"doc_id":"doc_151","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: SoMarketing: So {disfmarker}Project Manager: I hope you're ready for this uhfunctional design meeting .Marketing: Of course . {vocalsound}Project Manager: Um so I will take theminutes you mm you three are going to do presentation . Um uh we want to know {disfmarker} to{disfmarker} at the end to know the new project's requirement so we need uh to know the the user uhneeds that we want to fulfil to fulfil the {disfmarker} from the technical part we want to know how itgoing to work and um third part {vocalsound} uh I don't remember {vocalsound}Marketing:{vocalsound} {vocalsound}Project Manager: which is not very good . Ah of course , how to to design thisuh this {disfmarker}Marketing: Nice stuff {vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound} yeah . So umlet's go for the three presentations , so first um Marketing Expert .Marketing: {vocalsound} Who starts ?{vocalsound} Oh . Ha . okay .Project Manager: So wait a minute . Mm .Marketing: So I dunno if I can dothat like this ? Yeah ? So it's being modified . Do you want {disfmarker} yeah , open . Read only . I hopeI saved it . {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Marketing: So , umUser Interface: SammyBenjo . I know this name uh .Marketing: yeah , this is my name . {vocalsound}Project Manager:{vocalsound} Sounds uh {disfmarker}User Interface: {vocalsound} We met before .Marketing: So asyou know , you {disfmarker} I think you already know me , Sammy Benjo . I am the expert in marketingand I want to tell you about what people uh s want and uh like and dislike in remote controls , and I hopethis is going to help you to to design it correctly . So next please . Uh-oh . {vocalsound}Project Manager:Mm {vocalsound} uh .Industrial Designer: Yeah , it is put F_ five {gap} .Project Manager: Hmm.Marketing: {vocalsound} Hmm .Industrial Designer: The full page presentation , yep .Marketing: Yeahmaybe in the full pageProject Manager: Okay .User Interface: F_ F_ five .Marketing: because i I spentlots of time doing this presentation , so .Industrial Designer: Yeah . Yep .Project Manager: F_ five.Industrial Designer: Yeah .Marketing: Uh-huh hmm okay .Project Manager: Mm-hmm . Mm .Marketing:So basically uh what I suggest is that uh instead of deciding ourself what what could be and what shouldbe a good uh remote control , let's ask people who are users of remote controls how they feel about wthe current remote controls , what they like , what they don't like and um and what they do with them bythe way {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Marketing: because they are supposed to beuseful . {vocalsound} Don't forget about that . So we've we've conducted a a survey on on the use of uhremote controls and I'd like to show you some of the results we found on this survey . And next please .Yeah , so basically what we found was that uh there are several things that the user don't like in remotecontrols . First of all , they find it very ugly . {vocalsound} Current remote controls as you know they'rethe same as this one uh they're not nice colour , not nice shape , I mean they're all the same , andthey're not l good looking . Um what is interesting is that in fact it seems that they were {disfmarker}people are ready to pay for nice and look {disfmarker} and fancy looking uh remote control , so I thinkwe should probably spend lots of time in {disfmarker} and effort in that um . And the other thing is thatuh the the current remote controls are not so easy to use and it it {disfmarker} the the current uhfacilities that they offer do not match what people really want to use their remote controls . For instanceuh we see that uh they zap very often so I think this is a very uh important uh functionality that it shouldbe easy for them to to zap uh in one way or another . And most of the buttons uh on uh current remotecontrols are not used , so I think we should design something where some of the buttons which are thosethat are used should be easier to see and use than others that only a couple of people are using . Umnext please . {vocalsound} Now {vocalsound} people are very frustrated w with their {vocalsound}remote controlsIndustrial Designer: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}Marketing: and they for instance uh theydon't even find it {vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound}Marketing: it's {vocalsound} it's often lostsomewhere in the in the {disfmarker} in your home and nobody knows where it is .Industrial Designer:Yeah .User Interface: Agree .Marketing: Maybe if we have something where we could {vocalsound} askthe remote control please , where are you ?Industrial Designer: Yeah .Project Manager:{vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yeah .Marketing: {vocalsound} Like uh something to to{disfmarker} like t I think phones . Some of the phones have some of this kind of s functionality . Uh of"} {"doc_id":"doc_152","qid":"","text":"The Chair (Hon. Anthony Rota (NipissingTimiskaming, Lib.)): I call this meeting to order. Welcome to the12th meeting of the House of Commons Special Committee on the COVID-19 Pandemic. This will be thefirst hybrid meeting of the committee. Some members will be participating via videoconference and somewill be participating in person. This follows the order made by the House on May26,2020. Members whohave already participated in a virtual meeting of the special committee may actually not notice anychange, except for the fact that some members are also participating from the floor of the House. Anadditional rubric, that of statements by members, was also added to the proceedings of the committee.In order to ensure that those joining the meeting via video conference can be seen and heard by those inthe chamber, two screens have been set up in the chamber on either side of the Speakers chair. Soundamplification for virtual interventions will be available, and members in the chamber can listen to thefloor sound or interpretation using the earpieces on their desks. Before speaking, please wait until Irecognize you by name. Please also direct your remarks through the Chair. Thank you. For those of youjoining via video conference, I would like to remind you to leave your mike on mute when you are notspeaking. Also, please note that if you want to speak in English, you should be on the English channel. Ifyou want to speak French, you should be on the French channel. Should you wish to alternate betweenthe two languages, you should change the channel to the language that you are speaking each time youswitch languages. Should members participating by videoconference need to request the floor outsidetheir designated speaking times, they should activate their microphone and state that they have a pointof order. Those in the chamber can simply rise in the usual way. Please note that today's proceedings willbe televised in the same way as a typical sitting of the House. Next we'll move on to ministerialannouncements. I understand that there are no ministerial announcements today, so we'll move on topetitions. We'll be presenting petitions for a period not exceeding 15 minutes. I would like to remindmembers that any petition presented during a meeting of the special committee must have already beencertified by the clerk of petitions. For members participating in person, we ask that they please come anddrop the signed certificates off at the table once the petitions are presented. First on our list forpresenting petitions is Ms. May, who is joining us virtually.Ms. Elizabeth May (SaanichGulf Islands, GP):Mr. Chair, what an honour to be the first voice coming to you from the screens on either side of theSpeaker of the House. I speak to you from SaanichGulf Islands on the traditional territory of the WSNECpeople. Hych'ka Siem. I'm presenting a petition, number 431-00215, and it has been certified. Thepetitioners call on this House to take note of the fact that Canada is the only country with a universalhealth care system that does not include the provision of necessary prescription medications. They notethat the system across Canada is a patchwork that leaves three million Canadians unprepared anduninsured to be able to purchase necessary medications. They call on the House assembled to put inplace a system of universal national pharmacare, bringing down the cost of drugs through bulkpurchasing. I think I'll call that a summary, Mr. Chair. Thank you very much.The Chair: The next petitionwill be presented by Mr. Genuis.Mr. Garnett Genuis (Sherwood ParkFort Saskatchewan, CPC): Thank youvery much, Mr. Chair. I'm pleased to be presenting two petitions before the committee today. The firstpetition is in support of Bill S-204. This Senate public bill, been put forward by Senator Salma Ataullahjanin the Senate, would make it a criminal offence for someone to go abroad to receive an organ for whichthere has not been consent. It also has a mechanism by which somebody could be deemed inadmissibleto Canada for being involved in the horrible practice of forced organ harvesting and trafficking. This billhas been before various Parliaments for over 10 years, and petitioners are hopeful that this Parliamentwill be the one that finally takes action to address forced organ harvesting and trafficking. The secondpetition is put forward by folks who are concerned about Bill C-7, particularly the efforts by thegovernment through Bill C-7 to remove vital safeguards that are currently associated with Canada'seuthanasia regime. Petitioners are not happy about the fact that the government is trying to eliminatethe 10-day reflection period and remove other safeguards that only four short years ago the governmentthought were essential for the euthanasia and assisted suicide system that they were putting in place."} {"doc_id":"doc_153","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: Okay . So welcome back .Marketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager: What do {gap}{disfmarker} do we have to do ? {vocalsound}Marketing: {gap} .Project Manager: So first . I want tosay I'm the secretary , so I make the minutes . You find them in your {disfmarker} in the map in theFrom the group . There's the minutes from the first meeting . You'll find the next minutes also there .Then {vocalsound} I wanna hear from you , what you've done . And after that I have some new productrequirements . So {disfmarker} And after that we have to make decisions , what we will do . And thenwe're ready . We have forty minutes for this meeting . After that we'll have lunch . So first I wanna askthe {disfmarker} {vocalsound} Industrial Designer to tell what he did . So {disfmarker}IndustrialDesigner: That's my task . Okay . Uh I've {disfmarker} Where have I put it ? My Documents or not ?Hmm . I've save it on my computer , my presentation .Project Manager: Yeah on your computer , or the{disfmarker}Industrial Designer: But where ?Project Manager: What's the name ?Industrial Designer: Uhuh uh {disfmarker}Project Manager: What's the name of it ?Industrial Designer: It was about theworking of the remote control .Project Manager: It's the technical function or the functional requirements.Industrial Designer: Nope .Project Manager: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Not a {gap} of{disfmarker} Wait . The working design . But I've saved it .Project Manager: Working design .IndustrialDesigner: But now I don't know where it is . Hmm .Project Manager: Working design . What is this ?Product documents .Industrial Designer: Yeah . And I import this until {disfmarker}Project Manager: Onthe desktop . Up . {gap} up . Up . Up .Industrial Designer: One more .Project Manager: Up .IndustrialDesigner: {vocalsound}Project Manager: Yes . My Documents . Nope .Industrial Designer: What the fuckis this ?Project Manager: Gone . {vocalsound} Well you {disfmarker} Um {disfmarker} Nah . Nah , nah ,nah .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Project Manager: PowerPoint . Working design .IndustrialDesigner: Yeah that's the empty one .Project Manager: {vocalsound} And {disfmarker}IndustrialDesigner: I had one .Project Manager: Presentation of working design .Industrial Designer: Uh-huh .Open it . Okay here it is .Project Manager: Save as {gap} .Marketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager: Uhit's {disfmarker}Marketing: Desktop .Project Manager: Project {gap} .Industrial Designer: Project.Marketing: Yeah . Okay . Well .Project Manager: Save .Industrial Designer: Okay .Project Manager: Verygood .Industrial Designer: A little later but here it is .Marketing: {gap}Project Manager: Okay . So{disfmarker} {vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: So okay . It's a little difficultwhat I'm gonna tell you . It's about the working of the remote control . I just had an half an hour j tostudy itUser Interface: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: and {vocalsound} I don't get it .Marketing:{vocalsound} Make it .Project Manager: Now have ten minutes to tell it .Industrial Designer: Ten minutesto tell it . Okay . I think it will be a few minutes and {disfmarker}Project Manager: Okay .IndustrialDesigner: First uh I will tell you something about the findings , what I discovered about the remotecontrol . The working bout it {disfmarker} uh of it . Uh then I'll have uh some kind of map , and it's thetop of the remote control . With a little bit of science , uh you {disfmarker} I will show that uh in in a fewminutes . And then uh what I'll think about it . First , the findings . The remote control is a very difficultuh thing to uh to explain to just all of you wh who haven't seen a remote control uh inside . Uh there's alot of uh plastic on it ,Marketing: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: um because its uh not so expensive .And there are uh a lot of uh wires , uh which um connect the components in it , the battery , and thereare um switches and things like that . There's a lot of small uh electronics . So it won't be um uh tooexpensive to build it . Only twelve Euro fifty I think uh we will make it . Now {gap} {disfmarker} Andhere I have the top of the remote control . Uh here's some kind of chip . Uh on top of this , there are uhthe numbers . Uh you have all on your remote control . And uh the teletext uh button . And uh here's thebattery . And when you push the button , it will uh will be sent to the chip . And the chip will um send it toall kind of sub-components . That's what I said , it's very difficult .Project Manager:{vocalsound}Industrial Designer: And after that it will be sent to the infrared . And that will send it toyour television . That's a short h uh how it works . Uh I think I can uh make it uh difficult , but we all{vocalsound} we all don't get it . My preferences ? It's uh {disfmarker} it won't be uh {disfmarker} We"} {"doc_id":"doc_154","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: Okay uh Agnes , you can help me for the slide when {gap}User Interface: Yep . Sure.Project Manager: okay . Okay , welcome back . I hope uh you have a fresh head and a fresh time . How tnow the meeting actually we gathering here to discuss about the functional design meeting . Okay , anduh we'll issue some information from uh all of you . And it's in the , I think uh , in the sharing folder . Anduh I will invite uh the Christine and the Ed and uh Agnes to discuss about on the various subjects . So canyou go to the next slide ? Yeah uh the agenda of the meeting is opening . Then uh I'm going to talk aboutuh the project management , what I'm going to do , and uh , of course , I'm doing the projectmanagement and secretary both , okay , to take the minutes of the meeting . And there are threepresentations . One is uh new project requirements . And the second one about uh decision on remotecontrol functions . And uh finally we are closing . Uh and the meeting time will be uh forty minutes , soyou have to be very quick . And I have come up with the {disfmarker} management come with the newproposal , okay , and I have to discuss a few points on this . Uh both says new insights in the aim of yourproject . Uh the one is uh the teletext becomes uh outmoded , okay because if uh because of thecomputer systems and the new technology . So we don't need to consider really about the teletext all inour new project design . And the second one is about uh the remote control . Should be used only for theT_V_ . That's what our uh management says . And the third point , it's very very important to establishour uh marketing or uh corporate image , okay , with this new project or new product . Okay .{vocalsound} So I will invite uh {disfmarker} Agnes , can you go to the third slide ?User Interface: No ,this is the third slide .Project Manager: Okay , {gap} . So , I'll invite uh Christine to discuss about uh thefunctional design .Industrial Designer: 'Kay , do you wanna open the {disfmarker}User Interface: Sure .Um . You're participant sIndustrial Designer: I'm number two .User Interface: Two ?Project Manager:{vocalsound}Industrial Designer: That's it .User Interface: Do you want the mouse , or do you want meto {disfmarker}Industrial Designer: I'll do the notes . Yeah , thanks .Project Manager:{vocalsound}Industrial Designer: So um well I I figured uh we should um identify some userrequirements , and from my experience , I wanna uh , and from {vocalsound} research I did , uh the thedevice has to turn the television on and off the first time you press on the big button , you can't uh can'thave like uh waffling on this point , you know .Project Manager: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Reallyhave {disfmarker} It needs to be able y y have to be able to find it . Because one of the biggest problemswith remote controls is finding them . So uh , I also , since we have to establish our corporate image onthe basis of this new product , thought we better look at things that are popular and um ex go beyondthose , and , as I said in the first meeting , um {vocalsound} and then uh we might wanna talkeventually about the materials that are appropriate to use in uh in the construction , especially in the theuh the outside of the productProject Manager: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: so that it gives theappearance , and it is reliable , and so forth . {vocalsound} I did a little history on uh the the uh remotecontrols and when they were invented and so forth , so , I guess this guy Zenith uh created theFlashmatic , which I kinda like the idea , 'cause it made me think of um um maybe the remote controlmade a big flash when uh you turn the T_V_ on and off , that might be interesting . And um{vocalsound} so it was highly directional flash light that uh you could turn the picture on and off , and thesound on and off , and change channels c so I think um those are still requirements we have today , uhfifty years later .Project Manager: {vocalsound}User Interface: Mm-hmm .Industrial Designer: And uh itwas really a pioneering innovation , but it was uh sensitive to the sun , so that uh it would get{disfmarker} would start off by the {disfmarker} you'd get {disfmarker} it would easily cause umproblems . So , uh I {disfmarker} in addition to uh looking at the um {vocalsound} uh the functionalrequir so all these devices are examples of where uh mm {disfmarker} they {vocalsound} representexamples that are available today {vocalsound} {vocalsound} which I think the one in the middle is r umreally uh something to keep in mind .Marketing: Fantastic . {vocalsound}User Interface: {vocalsound}{vocalsound}Industrial Designer: It'd be easy to find . And um it would uh y you'd {vocalsound}{disfmarker} you could throw it at things if if the T_V_ didn't turn on and off , you could use it for"} {"doc_id":"doc_155","qid":"","text":"Lynne Neagle AM: Okay. Good morning, everyone. Welcome to the Children, Young People and EducationCommittee. We've received apologies for absence from Suzy Davies and Jack Sargeant and I'm verypleased to welcome Jayne Bryant back, who is substituting for Jack today. Are there any declarations ofinterest from Members, please? No. Okay, thank you. Item 2, then, this morning, is our sixth scrutinysession on the Children (Abolition of Defence of Reasonable Punishment) (Wales) Bill. I'm very pleased towelcome our witnesses this morning: Sally Jenkins, who is chair of All Wales Heads of Children’s Servicesand is here representing the Association of Directors of Social Services; Alastair Birch, who is seniorsystem leader for equalities and safeguarding at Pembrokeshire County Council, who is here representingthe Association of Directors of Education Wales; and Councillor Huw David, who is the Welsh LocalGovernment Association spokesperson for health and social care and leader of Bridgend County BoroughCouncil. So, thank you all for attending this morning. We're very pleased to have you here. We've got alot of ground to cover, so, if you're happy, we'll go straight into questions and I'll start just by askingabout your general support for the Bill, which is outlined in the evidence. Can you just explain why youthink the current law is ineffective or unclear?Alastair Birch: Bore da—bore da, bawb. So, I'm AlastairBirch. The statement, really, from ADEW is that the rights of the child should be educated and achieved,really, under the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child. The current legislation has beencriticised, obviously, by the UN concerning the defence of reasonable punishment still being within ourcurrent legislation. So, we will always—ADEW will always—advocate that the rights of the child be upheld,so that is really the fundamental aspect in terms of the statement from ADEW, and the position of ADEWis that the rights of the child are fundamental in this process. And there are certain articles—. I know thatthe Rights of Children and Young Persons (Wales) Measure 2011 made sure that article 3 and article 4,article 12 and article 37 were a focus in terms of making sure that the best interests of the child were putfirst, that children expressing their views and opinions was a priority. And we know, for safeguardingpurposes, that the express opinions of the child and the voice of the child are a fundamental aspect ofany safe environment, whether it be a school or college. So, that is—the position is really following thatlegal position under the Rights of Children and Young Persons (Wales) Measure.Lynne Neagle AM: Okay,thank you. Nothing to add at this stage, no?Sally Jenkins: I'll just add, on behalf of ADSS and on behalfof children's services and social services more widely, for us, this is not a change in our position, this isnot new; this is a position that we, on behalf of the leaders of social services across Wales, have takenover many years, going back 20, 25 years. I think what we would say is that we really welcome this Billand we welcome the proposed change for the clarity it would bring—the clarity that it would bring forchildren, for parents and for professionals. I think what we would recognise is that this is a verylittle-used piece of legislation, so it's rare, it's not as if this is something that is going to cast great changeacross the scene for children and families in Wales, but what it will do is represent a change in the realityof how we care and nurture our children. I would echo absolutely what Alastair has said in terms of therights of the child, but equally, in terms of all of our policies in Wales in terms of promoting well-being forchildren, this has to be key. So, for us, this is about a natural progression of change in how we care forour children in Wales. For children's services at the very sharp end of this world, for us, it brings a trueclarity. This continues with an ambiguity in how we treat our children and how we care for our children,and the shift for us brings that very much needed clarity.Lynne Neagle AM: Okay, thank you. Thecommittee has already heard different views about whether there's clear evidence that physicalpunishment is harmful to children. What evidence does the work of social services provide about whetherphysical punishment is actually harmful?Sally Jenkins: Obviously, what you'll all be aware of is that, aspart of the consultation for this Bill, the Public Policy Institute did a further piece of research to look at theimpact of physical punishment on children. A number of things that we know—we know from across theworld that the evidence is that introducing legislation or changing legislation in this way improveschildren's positions within their families. What we know is that children themselves, as Alastair hasalready referred to, really find physical punishment demeaning and harmful, and for children it is an"} {"doc_id":"doc_156","qid":"","text":"PhD B: OK . We 're on .Grad E: Hello ?Professor A: OK , so uh {vocalsound} had some interesting mailfrom uh Dan Ellis . Actually , I think he {disfmarker} he {vocalsound} redirected it to everybody also souh {vocalsound} the PDA mikes uh have a big bunch of energy at {disfmarker} at uh five hertz uh wherethis came up was that uh I was showing off these wave forms that we have on the web and {disfmarker}and uh {vocalsound} I just sort of hadn't noticed this , but that {disfmarker} the major , majorcomponent in the wave {disfmarker} in the second wave form in that pair of wave forms is actually theair conditioner .Grad C: Huh .Professor A: So . So . I {vocalsound} {vocalsound} I have to be morecareful about using that as a {disfmarker} as a {disfmarker} {vocalsound} as a good illustration , uh , infact it 's not , of uh {disfmarker} {vocalsound} of the effects of room reverberation . It is isn't a badillustration of the effects of uh room noise . {vocalsound} on {disfmarker} on uh some mikes uh but So .And then we had this other discussion about um {vocalsound} whether this affects the dynamic range ,cuz I know , although we start off with thirty two bits , you end up with uh sixteen bits and {vocalsound}you know , are we getting hurt there ? But uh Dan is pretty confident that we 're not , that {disfmarker}that quantization error is not {disfmarker} is still not a significant {vocalsound} factor there . So . Sothere was a question of whether we should change things here , whether we should {vocalsound} changea capacitor on the input box for that or whether we shouldPhD B: Yeah , he suggested a smaller capacitor, right ?Professor A: Right . But then I had some other uh thing discussions with himPhD B: For the PDProfessor A: and the feeling was {vocalsound} once we start monk monkeying with that , uh , manyother problems could ha happen . And additionally we {disfmarker} we already have a lot of data that 'sbeen collected with that , so .PhD B: Yeah .Professor A: A simple thing to do is he {disfmarker} he{disfmarker} he has a {disfmarker} I forget if it {disfmarker} this was in that mail or in the followingmail , but he has a {disfmarker} a simple filter , a digital filter that he suggested . We just run over thedata before we deal with it .PhD B: Mm - hmm .Professor A: um The other thing that I don't know theanswer to , but when people are using Feacalc here , uh whether they 're using it with the high - passfilter option or not . And I don't know if anybody knows .Grad E: Um . {vocalsound} I could go check.Professor A: But . Yeah . So when we 're doing all these things using our software there is {disfmarker}um if it 's {disfmarker} if it 's based on the RASTA - PLP program , {vocalsound} which does both PLPand RASTA - PLP {vocalsound} um then {vocalsound} uh there is an option there which then comes upthrough to Feacalc which {vocalsound} um allows you to do high - pass filtering and in general we like todo that , because of things like this and {vocalsound} it 's {disfmarker} it 's pretty {disfmarker} it 's nota very severe filter . Doesn't affect speech frequencies , even pretty low speech frequencies , at all , but it'sPhD B: What 's the {pause} cut - off frequency it used ?Professor A: Oh . I don't know I wrote this awhile agoPhD B: Is it like twenty ?Professor A: Something like that .PhD B: Yeah .Professor A: Yeah . Imean I think there 's some effect above twenty but it 's {disfmarker} it 's {disfmarker} it 's {disfmarker}it 's mild . So , I mean it probably {disfmarker} there 's probably some effect up to a hundred hertz orsomething but it 's {disfmarker} it 's pretty mild . I don't know in the {disfmarker} in the STRUTimplementation of the stuff is there a high - pass filter or a pre pre - emphasis or something in the{disfmarker}PhD F: Uh . I think we use a pre - emphasis . Yeah . Yeah .Professor A: So . We{disfmarker} we {disfmarker} we want to go and check that in i for anything that we 're going to use theP D A mike for . {vocalsound} uh He says that there 's a pretty good roll off in the PZM mikes so{vocalsound} we don't need {disfmarker} need to worry about them one way or the other but if we domake use of the cheap mikes , {vocalsound} uh we want to be sure to do that {disfmarker} that filteringbefore we {vocalsound} process it . And then again if it 's uh depending on the option that the{disfmarker} our {disfmarker} our software is being run with , it 's {disfmarker} it 's quite possible that's already being taken care of . uh But I also have to pick a different picture to show the effects ofreverberation . uhPhD B: Did somebody notice it during your talk ?Professor A: uh No .PhD B: Huh.Professor A: Well . uh Well . If they made output they were {disfmarker} they were , you know{disfmarker} they were nice .PhD B: Didn't say anything ?Professor A: But . {vocalsound} I mean the"} {"doc_id":"doc_157","qid":"","text":"Industrial Designer: 'S to do now is to decide how to fulfil what your stuff is ,Marketing: Yeah .IndustrialDesigner: so in that sense {disfmarker}Project Manager: Okay .Marketing: Yeah , sure .IndustrialDesigner: so it does kind of make sense , yeah .Project Manager: Okay , well {disfmarker}Marketing: Itkinda does make sense , doesn't it , because when we get into the end of meeting we're kind of{vocalsound} talking about action and design as opposed to background .Industrial Designer: Yep.Project Manager: Okay .Marketing: Everything I have is kinda background .Project Manager: Okay we allready to go ?Industrial Designer: Yep .Project Manager: Well how um on the {disfmarker} in this meetingthen if we um {disfmarker} I'll just just recap on the minutes from the last meeting . And we uh decidedonIndustrial Designer: Yep .Project Manager: decided on our our target group being fifteen to thirty five,Marketing: {vocalsound} Mm-hmm .Project Manager: and we decided that it was gonna benon-rechargeable battery-powered , that we're gonna group our audio-visual and other functions into intothose categories , um {vocalsound} . And I told you guys about the three new requirements aboutignoring teletext , ignoring everything except the T_V_ , and trying to incorporate the the uh corporatecolour and slogan . Um so that was the last meeting .Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .Project Manager: Isthere anything {disfmarker} have I forgotten anything ?Industrial Designer: No .Project Manager: Is thateverything ?Marketing: Uh that sounds {gap} .Project Manager: Okay . Um so if we have the threepresentations , and then if you have anything to kind of {disfmarker} that you know you're gonna wantto discuss , maybe just make a note of it , and we'll have all the discussion at the end . That might be abetter idea this time .Marketing: Sure .Project Manager: And so if we start off uh with Andrew and thenCraig and then David ,Marketing: Okay .Project Manager: if that's alright .Marketing: Sure .IndustrialDesigner: Yep .Project Manager: Um and then after that we'll have to make some decisions about stuff ,right {vocalsound} .Marketing: Yeah , cool .Project Manager: So if you wanna take this .Marketing: Whydon't I get that {vocalsound} ? Hmm .Project Manager: {vocalsound} Screwed in quite tightly . Uh whatdid {disfmarker} uh how did we leave it with speech recognition now ? We {disfmarker} did we say wewere gonna try {disfmarker} maybe incorporate it but we hadn't made a definite decision on that?Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .Project Manager: Right . Oh I should also point out that um the youknow the kind of final objective of this meeting is to reach a decision on the concepts of the product.Marketing: Okay . {vocalsound}Project Manager: So um {vocalsound} that's kind of the end resulthopefully .Marketing: Okay . Um alright so c is it function F_ eight ?Project Manager: {vocalsound}Uh-huh . Hopefully appear in a wee second .Marketing: Hmm . Come on . I think it's working .ProjectManager: Up there we go .Marketing: Okay great s so let me just start this . {vocalsound} Okay great .So um {vocalsound} uh s move on . Uh-huh {disfmarker} oh where'd it all go ?Project Manager:{vocalsound} Oh no .Marketing: It's not good . Okay lemme just see where I can find it . This looks morelike it . I think I just opened up the template .Project Manager: Oh right .Marketing: Sorry about that .Okay alright so let's have a look here .Project Manager: Here we go .Marketing: Okay so this was themethod that um I've taken . Uh basically what I wanna do here , before we get into it uh too far , is Iwant to show you all the background information I have that I think we need to acknowledge if we wantthis to be successful .Project Manager: Okay .Marketing: And uh and then sorta g go through some of theway that I've dealt with that information , and then sort of bring us all together into it to see{disfmarker} sorta see how this fits in with the overall vision . Um so I've tried to take a whole lot ofmarket research and summarise it for us , and then ide identify uh trends that are are sort of in sync andare important to our our uh p project plan that we have so far , and then uh initiate a kind of discussionon design options so that it sorta helps us to to narrow in on on aspects that will inform other uh otherelements of the of the project . Does that make sense , tha that sort of strategy ?Industrial Designer: Yep.Project Manager: Mm-hmm .Marketing: I thought that that will impact on the rest of what we do , sothat's why I suggested we get in this .Project Manager: Aye a fair point definitely .Marketing: Okay so outof um different uh figures and ratings ob uh of people in general , um consumers in general , the numberone thing that was found was that uh the br t television remote control , a fancy look and feel , okay ,"} {"doc_id":"doc_158","qid":"","text":"Lynne Neagle AM: Good morning, everyone. Welcome to the Children, Young People and EducationCommittee. We've received apologies for absence from Julie Morgan, and I'm very pleased to welcomeDavid Rees, who is substituting for her today. Can I ask Members whether there are any declarations ofinterest, please? No. Okay. Thank you very much. Item 2 this morning, then, is a session with theMinister for Children and Social Care on the Welsh Government's childcare offer. So, I'm very pleased towelcome Huw Irranca-Davies, Minister for Children and Social Care, also Jo-Anne Daniels, director forcommunities and tackling poverty, and Owain Lloyd, deputy director for childcare, play and early years.So, thank you, all, for your attendance. If you're happy, we'll go straight into questions from Members,and the first questions come from Hefin David.Hefin David AM: Good morning, Minister. How has it gonein the early implementer local authority areas, and is it something of a mixed bag?Huw Irranca-DaviesAM: It's gone well, but I'm glad we've done it through this process of early implementer, actually pilotingit, because we're learning lessons as we go along. It has gone well. It's been encouraging, to the extentthat we're at the point where we're expanding—we've made announcements on expanding some of theearly implementer areas so we can learn more lessons. But, in terms of what we're learning, one is thebureaucracy around the current approach that we're taking, because it's being done on the seven earlyimplementers. So, we're asking parents to come in, provide their wage slips, provide the birthcertificates, and so on. You're dealing sometimes with parents and families with complex issues andcomplex backgrounds, so it's difficult. And the burden of administration on that is falling to each pilotarea. In one case, it's a whole authority, but it's only one—that's in Blaenau Gwent. In others, it's smallerareas. So, we're also hitting those—. The other big challenge we're hitting is communication. So, we'rehaving parents, generally, who are outside the areas entirely saying, 'Why haven't we got this yet? Canwe please get into it?', which is encouraging. But the other thing we're having is people who are withinpilot authorities, where it doesn't extend to the whole authority, saying, 'Well, hold on now, we think wequalify for something under universal care, we think we qualify for something on tax credits. Why don'twe qualify for this?' 'Well, you're not in the pilot area.' So, we're learning about these things, but thebiggest one, I have to say, is the administrative burden, and I think that's interesting in how we take thisforward for a wider roll-out.Hefin David AM: What is the administrative burden? What specifically isthat?Huw Irranca-Davies AM: It is that sheer burden on each local authority, and each pilot area, toadminister a scheme where we are asking parents to prove eligibility, to bring in documents to provetheir eligibility, to make adjustments as it goes forward based on what their changing work patterns are,what their salary slips say. It's incredibly bureaucratic. So, yesterday, when we made the statementfollowing the announcement of the introduction of the Childcare Funding (Wales) Bill, we made clear thatour preferred option, as put within that framework Bill, is actually to build on, and to learn from thelessons as well, the model of the HM Revenue and Customs type of model, where you actually have—andthis, by the way, is supported by local authority providers out there—one system that is a centralisedsystem, where there is clarity, that is handled, that has elements of information sharing betweenGovernment departments, such as the Department for Work and Pensions, and so on, so that the work isdone for the parents, and the work is done for the local authorities; much cleaner, much simpler.HefinDavid AM: How confident are you that you can achieve that by 2020?Huw Irranca-Davies AM: We arevery confident. But, as I say, I'm more confident in the fact that we're actually piloting it, and phasingthis in, because I think we've learned from some of the experiences elsewhere, including just over theborder in England, where they have a different version of a childcare offer, but they've gone for it in abig-bang approach. And it has led to technical issues, it's led to volume issues, where their anticipation ofhow many people would buy into it was overwhelmed by the numbers who actually then came forward forit, and the complexity, I have to say, of individual family situations, whereas what we are doing, Hefin, istaking this forward very, very carefully. Each roll-out, each expansion that we're doing of the pilot isnot—and I know this has caused some people to come back and say, 'Why can't we all have it now?' It'sbecause we're only rolling out to areas where we now need to learn a lesson about whether it's rurality"} {"doc_id":"doc_159","qid":"","text":"User Interface: Okay .Industrial Designer: Or you get it . Okay .User Interface: No I don't think so it hasto be like that yeah and you have to adjust the length . Okay , and then .Project Manager: {vocalsound}So we uh {disfmarker} we will wait for Anna , a few minutes .User Interface: Yeah , s yeah , um.Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Mm {vocalsound} . Yours is well {disfmarker} {vocalsound}UserInterface: I think you can put anywhere you want , actually . I thinIndustrial Designer: Yeah but the themic should not {disfmarker}User Interface: It's not a directional mic , anyway .Project Manager: I think itshould work like this .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}User Interface: Uh .Project Manager: So I will tryto get my presentation running .User Interface: Yeah .Industrial Designer: Yeah .Project Manager: Mm.Industrial Designer: Mm . Can't help you with that .User Interface: Last .Project Manager: It's no matter.Industrial Designer: Okay , it's y yeah .Project Manager: No problem . Ah yes .Industrial Designer: Right.User Interface: Okay .Industrial Designer: Then press uh alUser Interface: Okay .Industrial Designer:This .Project Manager: I don't know .Industrial Designer: You know ?Project Manager: Just try .UserInterface: 'Kay .Project Manager: On this normal {disfmarker}Industrial Designer: Oh oh .User Interface:Alt F_ five .Project Manager: Good . Doesn't appear on the screen here .Industrial Designer:{vocalsound} Right well {disfmarker}Project Manager: Oh .Industrial Designer: Wow . Amazing . It'sworking {vocalsound} .Project Manager: Okay . Thank you . {vocalsound} Uh .Marketing: Hold that .Okay .Project Manager: Yes and you can put can clip it uh on your {disfmarker}Marketing: Okay . Mm.Project Manager: Somewhere . So , {vocalsound} good morning , everyone . Um {disfmarker} Welcomeat uh {disfmarker} at the kick off meeting of our uh latest project .Industrial Designer:{vocalsound}Project Manager: I hope you all have been uh updated about it .Industrial Designer: Yeah.Project Manager: Good .User Interface: So . Yes .Project Manager: So w we will try to structure this uhmeeting with an a with an agenda uh as presented here . Um after the opening we will tr get acquaintedto each other .User Interface: {vocalsound}Project Manager: See what our roles are in this project . So ,um {disfmarker} We have been provided with uh some uh w technical tools to uh {disfmarker} tocommunicate and to well , learn from each other's plans uh as I can say um so w we will also try to uh toget acquainted to this tools so they are also new to me I don't know whether you worked with thembefore . Um then we will come to the uh to the to the actual project plan . You all know I hope{vocalsound} how it's about uh the uh new r remote control we are going going to design .Marketing:Mm-hmm .User Interface: Total .Project Manager: Uh then we will uh discuss uh , well , how it should beand uh {disfmarker} wh what uh what our new product should look lite {disfmarker} like . And uh wellthen uh after some twenty five minutes I hope uh we can end this meeting . So . Um basically this isabout a uh a new c remote control . Um {disfmarker} We {disfmarker} When you design a new productyou of {disfmarker} uh you of course want it to be original . Be uh {disfmarker} we want to bedistinguished , mm ? People uh want to uh when they look at the shelf want to think , well that's theproduct I I need . So it needs to be trendy . I mean trendy is what people want , so then I w they will buyour product . But then , uh , it also should work uh user friendly and uh otherwise people uh uh well it willnot be uh be rated very well in consumer uh articles and like that .Industrial Designer:{vocalsound}Project Manager: So , the general outline of uh new project will be we first uh go through afunctional design phase . Um {disfmarker} You all get uh um certain task uh in this uh in this phase anduh then we will meet again and uh discuss this functional design . And the same holds for the uh ph twophases uh after this , the conceptual design and after that a a more detailed design in which the the finalproject should get its definite shape . Alright , but first we will do some uh tool training . In all in front ofyou uh you see uh the uh notebooks and w uh n note blocks and we have here a a {disfmarker} a{disfmarker} a white-board .User Interface: WhiteboMarketing: Mm-hmm .Project Manager: And um wellit should work uh {disfmarker} I've read it from my uh from some colleague that it should work withsome kind of toolbar . I didn't find out yet how it work , but maybe one of you did , so {disfmarker} Um{disfmarker}Industrial Designer: Under documents in the shared folder . Okay .Project Manager: Yes .Do {disfmarker} Do we have to say something about that ? I I I'm not fully updated about this shared"} {"doc_id":"doc_160","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Project Manager: Right well . Welcometo the {disfmarker} what should be the last of these meetings and uh it looks like we've uh done a goodjob here and uh we'll just go through the the final uh the final details . Um okay , oh the um th the theminutes of the last meeting uh I think we'll take those as read , um {disfmarker} OkayIndustrialDesigner: {vocalsound}Project Manager: the um th the the next uh thing we we we'll have a look at theuh th have a look at the prototypes and uh look at the uh evaluation criteria and finance and then uh uhjust tidy up with production and um and then we can close . Um So f if if you'd like to uh present youryour proposals .Industrial Designer: Uh okay we basically have the same kinda lay-out here it's just umyou hold it like this and it gets kinda moulded to the to the shape of your hand , basically . Um on the leftwe've got the scroll for the volume , on the right we have buttons for the channels up and down and thatkinda {disfmarker} so you can hold it and scroll , or you can hold it and and push .Project Manager:{vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Uh this is the power key , um it's kinda like the biggest so you knowhow to turn on .Project Manager: Uh-huh .Industrial Designer: Uh that's the little menu key . This is theinfra-red section so you g it'll be sending rays and if you're you know pointing it like that it can send it,Project Manager: Yep ,Industrial Designer: or if you hold it up like that it'll send it .Project Manager:yeah , good , good .Industrial Designer: Uh we got a microphone there which for all the voicecommandsProject Manager: Uh-huh .Industrial Designer: so you can you know talk to it like thatProjectManager: Yep ,Industrial Designer: and it'll still understand .Project Manager: right .Industrial Designer:Um the logo is down down there umProject Manager: Uh-huh .User Interface: Mm .Industrial Designer:and {gap} has the cover on itUser Interface: SIndustrial Designer: and you can see like it just kinda goes{disfmarker} the red bit's the cover and it kinda goes over everythingProject Manager: Yep , yep,Industrial Designer: and then there's holes for the buttons to come through . Um .Project Manager:mm-hmm .User Interface: And so we figured it would be kind of you know a light weight plastic ,ProjectManager: Uh-huh .Industrial Designer: Mm .User Interface: just kind of a light {vocalsound} non-descriptgreyProject Manager: Yep yep .User Interface: so that people'll wanna buy the coversProject Manager:Yep .User Interface: and then the covers will be that sort of rubbery material like they make iPod covers,Project Manager: {gap} showing me age ,User Interface: so they kinda just stretch over .IndustrialDesigner: Mm .Project Manager: I don't know what i c iPod covers are like .Industrial Designer:{vocalsound}User Interface: {vocalsound} Yeah , wellProject Manager: Yeah {gap} yeah .UserInterface: I I didn't know that but yeah they're kind of {disfmarker} it's just kind of a rubbery{disfmarker}Project Manager: Uh-huh .Industrial Designer: Yeah .User Interface: and that way{disfmarker} you knowProject Manager: Okay ,User Interface: spongy like is something that peoplewantedProject Manager: yep , right .User Interface: and it just sort of stretches overIndustrial Designer:Mm-hmm .User Interface: and that way I think probably helps protect it a little bit too as wellProjectManager: Okay .Industrial Designer: But it's also e e easier to put on versus like mobile coversUserInterface: and {disfmarker}Industrial Designer: you actually have to screw them on and stuff and youkinda sometimes have to get someone to do that for you . This is very much you should be able to stretchit over yourselfProject Manager: Yep .User Interface: just kinda stretch it overIndustrial Designer: and it'llbe fine .Project Manager: Okay , good yeah .Industrial Designer: Yeah .User Interface: and it'll just stayonIndustrial Designer: Yeah .User Interface: and then the buttons come through and so {disfmarker}and then the {disfmarker} each one of 'em on the very end will have the logo with the yellow circle andthe R_R_ .Project Manager: Yep , right .Industrial Designer: Li that'll be {gap} the covers as well , yeahyeah .Project Manager: Yeah , yeah .User Interface: Yeah .Project Manager: I mean tha it's it's a detailedpoint , I just wondered {disfmarker} I mean h how will people put these down I wonder ?User Interface:Like that .Project Manager: Right . Okay {gap} for some strange re reason I had it in my mind thatthey'd put them down verticallyIndustrial Designer: Yeah it could stand , yeah .Project Manager: but uhuh {disfmarker}User Interface: {vocalsound} Oh .Industrial Designer: Well we could broaden the{disfmarker} broaden it out a bitProject Manager: {vocalsound} Yeah , uh noIndustrial Designer: so it"} {"doc_id":"doc_161","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: Okay everybody is ready ? {vocalsound} Good morning again . So , today we are goingto have a f second meeting . Oh Michael , hi .User Interface: Yep .Project Manager: You're late . You havea good reason for that ?User Interface: {vocalsound} Yes .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}ProjectManager: {vocalsound} Very good {vocalsound} . {vocalsound} Okay , let's have a look to the agendatoday . {vocalsound} So , we are going to have a meeting about the functional design . Um so firstbefore starting I w just going to uh to go quickly to {disfmarker} through the minutes of previousmeeting . So uh {vocalsound} basically we we are not decided if w we should go for a universal orspecific uh uh remote control , but I have new um new i inputs for {disfmarker} about that topics . I goinI'm going to share with you . {vocalsound} And uh basically we decided to um to uh go to individualactions for each of you uh so um Industrial Designer should wor was supposed to work on th on th on theworking design . You showed us {disfmarker}Industrial Designer: Yep .Project Manager: you ar you youprepare something for us ?Industrial Designer: Yeah . Yep .Project Manager: The U_I_ guy also uh workon that , yeah , and for the mar our Marketing Expert should deliver some specs .User Interface: Mm.Project Manager: Alright {vocalsound} so {vocalsound} so we are going to go through three of yourindividual presentations . But first I would like quickly to uh to decide of {disfmarker} to give a name tothe project . So , I just put d quickly Remo , but if you have any o other names that we co could decidefor just to to keep something fun for our project we we should {disfmarker} we could discuss quickly .Any ideas ?User Interface: Uh the Powerstick .Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .Project Manager:{vocalsound} Powerstick , yeah .User Interface: {vocalsound}Project Manager: What else ? What else?Marketing: Uh . {vocalsound}User Interface: Maybe a Spanish name would work well .Marketing: Mm Iwas thinking of the {disfmarker}User Interface: Especially if we're selling into the U_S_ market becasuethere's a lot of Spanish speakers there . Maybe something that sounds cool in English but sounds funny inSpanish .Marketing: Mando .User Interface: Mando .Project Manager: Mango ? Mango ?User Interface:What is that ?Marketing: Mando .Project Manager: Mando . M_A_ ? M_A_ ?Marketing: A*_N_ yeah D_O.Project Manager: M_ D_O_ . Mm , okay .Marketing: It doesn't it doesn't sound cool for me ,ProjectManager: What does it mean ? Oh .Marketing: but maybe for a Spanish {disfmarker} for I {disfmarker}for {disfmarker}User Interface: What does it mean in Spanish ?Marketing: Control .User Interface:Control .Project Manager: Hmm . Nice .User Interface: Okay . 'Cause it also {disfmarker} like in English itsounds like you know the man's tool you know because you know men like to have control of theremoteMarketing: But {disfmarker} mm , yeah .User Interface: so it might {disfmarker}Marketing:Mando sounds Latino . {vocalsound} {vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}UserInterface: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Project Manager: Okay .User Interface: TheMando .Project Manager: {vocalsound} So , let's go for Mando ? Yeah ? No objection ?IndustrialDesigner: Yeah , yeah .User Interface: Yeah that's {gap} .Project Manager: Great . So {disfmarker}UserInterface: And we could have some like you d you could have the fonts you know special , so you haveman in like in in uh in one o in one font and then the O_ as like {disfmarker}Project Manager: Okay , Ithink this is {disfmarker}User Interface: Although you don't wanna cut uh cut women out of the uhpotential buyers though ,Project Manager: Okay .User Interface: do you ? So {disfmarker}IndustrialDesigner: Yeah they are the most T_V_ watcher . So we should be careful .User Interface: Yeah .ProjectManager: Okay , I think this is more a question of of {disfmarker}User Interface: Marketing .Marketing:But {disfmarker} yeahProject Manager: I I think this is more a question of of look and feel .Marketing: ituh {disfmarker}Project Manager: Something that should be addressed later We should we should go toother {disfmarker} for the other topics .Marketing: Yeah because if the product will be international{disfmarker}User Interface: Well that's the thing . We need to know who we're selling it to before we canreally decide on a {disfmarker}Project Manager: Yeah okay , so let's stick f to Man Mando for thenameUser Interface: Um .Project Manager: and we'll see for the for the look and feel later . So let's go forthe three presentations right now . So , who want to start ?User Interface: {vocalsound}Project Manager:So maybe we could start with the market , yeah .Marketing: Maybe maybe I should uh start . Yeah . Mm ."} {"doc_id":"doc_162","qid":"","text":"Professor A: Am I on ? I guess so . Radio two . Hmm . Radio two .Grad E: Hello ?Professor A: Wow .GradE: Mm - hmm . Hi ?PhD B: Blow into it , it works really well .Grad F: Channel B .Professor A: People saythe strangest things when their microphones are on .PhD D: Channel four . Test .PhD C: Uh - oh .PhD D:OK .PhD C: Radio four .Grad E: Hello ?Professor A: So everybody everybody 's on ?PhD D: Today'sProfessor A: Yeah . So y you guys had a {disfmarker} a meeting with uh {disfmarker} with Hynekwhich I unfortunately had to miss . Um and uh somebodyPhD C: Mmm .Professor A: eh e and uh I guessChuck you weren't there either , so the uhPhD B: I was there .Professor A: Oh you were there ?PhD B:With Hynek ?Professor A: Yeah .PhD B: Yeah .Professor A: So everybody knows what happened exceptme . OK . {vocalsound} Maybe somebody should tell me .PhD C: Oh yeah . Alright . Well . Uh first wediscussed about some of the points that I was addressing in the mail I sent last week .Professor A: Uh -huh .PhD C: So . Yeah . About the um , well {disfmarker} the downsampling problem .Professor A: Yeah.PhD C: Uh and about the f the length of the filters and {disfmarker} Yeah .Professor A: What was the{disfmarker} w what was the downsampling problem again ?PhD C: So we had {disfmarker}Professor A:I forget .PhD C: So the fact that there {disfmarker} there is no uh low - pass filtering before thedownsampling . Well .Professor A: Uh - huh .PhD C: There is because there is LDA filtering but that 'sperhaps not uh the best w mProfessor A: Depends what it 's frequency characteristic is , yeah .PhD C:Well . Mm - hmm .Professor A: So you could do a {disfmarker} you could do a stricter one .PhD D:System onProfessor A: Maybe . Yeah .PhD C: Yeah . So we discussed about this , about the um{disfmarker}Professor A: Was there any conclusion about that ?PhD C: Uh \" try it \" . Yeah .Professor A: Isee .PhD C: I guess .Professor A: Yeah . So again this is th this is the downsampling {vocalsound} uh ofthe uh {disfmarker} the feature vector streamPhD C: Uh .Professor A: and um Yeah I guess the{disfmarker} the uh LDA filters they were doing do have um {vocalsound} uh let 's see , so the{disfmarker} the {disfmarker} the feature vectors are calculated every ten milliseconds so uh thequestion is how far down they are at fifty {disfmarker} fifty hertz . Uh . {vocalsound} Um .PhD C: Yeah .Mm - hmm .Professor A: Sorry at twenty - five hertz since they 're downsampling by two . So . Doesanybody know what the frequency characteristic is ?PhD C: We don't have yetProfessor A: Oh OK .PhD C:um {vocalsound} So , yeah .Professor A: OK .PhD C: We should have a look first at , perhaps ,{vocalsound} the modulation spectrum .Professor A: Yeah .PhD C: Um . So there is this , there is the umlength of the filters . Um . {vocalsound} {vocalsound} So the i this idea of trying to find filters withshorter delays . Um . We started to work with this .Professor A: Hmm - hmm .PhD C: Mmm . And thethird point um {vocalsound} {vocalsound} was the um , yeah , {vocalsound} the on - line normalizationwhere , well , the recursion f recursion for the mean estimation {vocalsound} is a filter with some kind ofdelayProfessor A: Yeah .PhD C: and that 's not taken into account right now . Um . Yeah . And thereagain , yeah . For this , the conclusion of Hynek was , well , \" we can try it but {disfmarker} \"Professor A:Uh - huh .PhD C: Um .Professor A: Try {disfmarker} try what ?PhD C: So try to um {vocalsound}{vocalsound} um take into account the delay of the recursion for the mean estimation .Professor A: OK.PhD C: Mmm . And this {disfmarker} we 've not uh worked on this yet . Um , yeah . And so whilediscussing about these {disfmarker} these LDA filters , some i issues appeared , like well , the fact that ifwe look at the frequency response of these filters it 's uh , well , we don't know really what 's theimportant part in the frequency response and there is the fact that {vocalsound} in the very lowfrequency , these filters don't {disfmarker} don't really remove a lot . {vocalsound} compared to the{disfmarker} to the uh standard RASTA filter . Uh and that 's probably a reason why , yeah , on - linenormalization helps because it {disfmarker} it ,Professor A: Right .PhD C: yeah , it removed this mean .Um . Yeah , but perhaps everything could {disfmarker} should be {disfmarker} could be in the filter , Imean , uh the {disfmarker} the mean normalization and {disfmarker} Yeah . So . Yeah . So basicallythat was {disfmarker} that 's {vocalsound} all we discussed about . We discussed about {vocalsound}good things to do also uh well , generally good stuff {vocalsound} to do for the research .Professor A:Mm - hmm .PhD C: And this was this LDA uh tuning perhaps and {vocalsound} Hynek proposed again to"} {"doc_id":"doc_163","qid":"","text":"Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Project Manager: Um almost , there's one more thing I have to get outof the {disfmarker} I have to make sure that this attachment will open .Industrial Designer:{vocalsound} I keep forgetting whether I've done this . {gap} .Project Manager: Ah-ha . Okay . We'llopen that when the time is right . In the meantime {disfmarker} Closing things down , okay . Let's seewhat this thing does . Does it come up together or disappear one of them or what ? Ah , we came uptogether , we're good . Okay . Are we ready to start ? Okay . It's now quarter of four . This is a f anotherforty minute one so it will end at four twenty five . Okay . Right . Our agenda is , as before , for me toopen the meeting , for us to go over the previous minutes , then for the two of you to present yourprototype and for you to g um Sarah present the evaluation criteria . We then have a finance aspect ,which is a spreadsheet , an Excel spreadsheet . And I know what you're all thinking of , oh my , umbecause we're only given a forty minute time period to get it all in , including the production evaluation .So we're going to make a very fast track . Okay . Um and as you can see that's what we do next on thisthing . So the first thing I have to do is close this so that I can get to {disfmarker} Where is it ?{vocalsound}Marketing: Red .Project Manager: I need to open mine . Not the agenda .Marketing: Agendathree .Project Manager: No that th I want the minutes from the previous {disfmarker} minutes.Marketing: Mm .Project Manager: That should be there , minutes . Yeah . Okay . Uh from meeting three ,is it alright with you if I don't switch it to show , just use it as is ? 'Cause this way I can more easily flip it. Okay , um obviously all of us were here for the last meeting , we reviewed the previous minutes beforethat , um each of you made your presentations . {vocalsound} Um we discussed the various possibilitiesbased on what was presented in those presentations . The market trend of fruit and veg , mm spongy ,uh fancy and elegant more than technologically innovative and that more than easy . Um we decided chipon print would be used . Um we would use plastic with a rubber casing , I think was the consensus ,powered by kinetic energy . There was no decision made on the curvatures or double curvature orstraight . Um perhaps the prototype will give us an inkling of that . Um looking like a scroll , but it's reallya push button technology , excuse my spelling um that was actually in use , that is uh behind the scenesis push button which we uh according to Kate have a very good uh grasp on doing that in production . Umwe decided that separate fashionable covers covering your fruit and veg might be a separate product thatcould be suggested to management . Um and as suggested um yellow with black buttons with thecompany logo , a slogan and image might be a good idea based on the requirements that have beenprovided to us . Um we did have a few production issues and coordination of the various bits and we hadsome conflict of ideas and cost constraints and we ran out of time . Um we had to follow that up andprepare for the last one . And uh we closed as it ran out of time . Is that a fair presentation of whathappened ?Industrial Designer: Yep .User Interface: Yes .Project Manager: Okay , back to this meeting .Um we're down to the prototype presentation .Industrial Designer: Ta-da .User Interface: Alright .ProjectManager: Over to you .Industrial Designer: Right .User Interface: Well .Project Manager: Ooh , two .UserInterface: Yeah , well you see , each made one , we didn't have enough yellow dough .Project Manager:Ah .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}User Interface: This is the one that I made .Project Manager:Uh-huh .User Interface: It is uh curved , easy to hold , hand-held , nice and small with big easy buttons .This is like a scroll , but they are push buttons and they enter {disfmarker} takes you into the differentmenus . Of course we need someone who's experienced with the television {gap} . I mean this is theinfrared thing that's gonna zap at the television . Uh I'm not quite sure how to make that , but I'm sure itwill work . Uh this is on off switch , 'cause I think we do need that , and I think it gives it a nice balance.Project Manager: 'Kay .User Interface: And it's gonna have the logo imprinted on it uh in there .ProjectManager: Okay .User Interface: Um as for what it's actually made of {disfmarker} well the function ofthese buttons is up , down , left and right {vocalsound} in the different menus .Project Manager: Okay.User Interface: Uh position , I presume that just means right right on it , easy to see . The main featureof it is just a simple design , simple , lack of uh buttons all over the place . Right ? {vocalsound} Formcurved , kind of smooth , hand-held , makes it feel nice to hold . Uh material , I think Kate's gonna tackle"} {"doc_id":"doc_164","qid":"","text":"User Interface: Here we go again .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} My mouse is not working anymore.User Interface: {vocalsound} Oh .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} He's uh {disfmarker}Marketing: Oh.User Interface: Okay .Industrial Designer: when I put it in , is is going to beep beep beep .Marketing: Oh, I got a nice little screen here over here .User Interface: {vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound} I got likethis big black border uh on every side .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Project Manager: Okay .UserInterface: Mm , okay .Project Manager: Everybody ready ?Marketing: {vocalsound} I'll I'll fix it .UserInterface: Yeah , it's okay .Project Manager: Welcome at the functional design meeting , again presentedby Maarten .Marketing: Yeah , whatever .User Interface: {vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound}ProjectManager: Uh this is the agenda , the opening . Uh , we've got three presentations . And I'm gonna showyou some of the new projects requirements that were sent to me . And we're gonna make a decision onthe remote control functions . We have uh forty minutes .Marketing: Yes .Project Manager: Oh , well thisis the {vocalsound} the closing already .User Interface: {vocalsound}Project Manager: So uh{disfmarker} well we start off with the th the first presentation then . Uh , I think um in uh {disfmarker}we have to do it in uh in right order .User Interface: Okay .Project Manager: Maybe the{disfmarker}Marketing: I don't know what the right order is . So {disfmarker}Project Manager: Well , it{disfmarker}User Interface: No .Industrial Designer: Huh .Project Manager: Oh that . It won't{disfmarker} doesn't {disfmarker} Maybe we should start with the the technical functions .IndustrialDesigner: Okay ,Project Manager: Yeah ?Industrial Designer: how can I get this on the whiteboard?Project Manager: Well it's you dumped the file in the uh in the sh in the project document folder .UserInterface: In project .Industrial Designer: Okay , I've done that .Project Manager: You've already donethat ?User Interface: No can that open .Industrial Designer: Yes .Project Manager: Well let's close thisone . We'll just uh open a new one .User Interface: Open it there .Project Manager: Uh , well . Yes .Uh-oh . New thing . Oh yeah , uh I have to say something . Uh , due to some uh technical problems Ihaven't uh digitized the last uh the meeting minutes . But I'll uh make sure that uh happens next time.Marketing: Mm-hmm .User Interface: Okay . {vocalsound} About the get {disfmarker}Project Manager:And I'll get this one uh in digital uh form too .Industrial Designer: 'Kay , we're going to um uh talk aboutworking design . Um , the method of the remote control is uh electrical energy , it activates a chip uh inthe remote . It's an electrical circuit which compose uh messages in the form of uh uh infrared signals tocontrol the television . Mm , it's a nowadays very uh known , a known uh uh technology . Um , the knowntechnology can make a cost very low . Uh , it's a wild uh {disfmarker} a wide sale uh of uh remotecontrols in the world . And and the components are very uh very cheap . Um , Uh , diodes , uh batbatteries and uh uh LED lights , they're needed and they're uh everywhere available . Uh , again , it's afair price . It's a common uh technology uh , like I told um {disfmarker} Uh , the circuit board , it's themost um important uh um part of the remote control . Uh , we can use for that uh fibreglass with copperwires , it's {disfmarker} it is uh {disfmarker} can be made as fast as printing paper . It's uh{disfmarker} {vocalsound} it's all very uh {disfmarker}Project Manager: Okay .Industrial Designer: Yeah, they're making it uh all the time . Uh ,Project Manager: Okay .Industrial Designer: and it's not uh veryspecialised uh technology . {vocalsound} I haven't come to here , but um I've got uh some uh images ofuh remote controls . They were not uh very uh trendy or just uh just a remote control like everyoneknows . So I don't know uh why I should put it here . Uh {disfmarker} {vocalsound}Project Manager:{vocalsound} Okay . But it's the technical side of the remote control .User Interface:{vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Yes , but uh I uh haven't made it because uh of the time .ProjectManager: Oh . Okay . Well , we'll we'll have to skip that part then .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}What ?User Interface: Okay .Project Manager: But you don't think it's a problem um to design uh thetechnical part of the remote control ? It's gonna be easy ?Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} No . Yes.Project Manager: Okay .User Interface: But nothing restricted for user interface ?Project Manager: Yeah. MUser Interface: With technical {disfmarker}Industrial Designer: Um , no , it's uh it's just a part of uh aknown technology , yeah .User Interface: I don't know .Project Manager: Okay .User Interface: 'Kay"} {"doc_id":"doc_165","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: Right , so start of the first meeting .Marketing: Mm-hmm .Project Manager:{vocalsound} Uh . Right , so agenda of the first meeting . Where we uh {disfmarker} We have twentyfive minutes for this meeting .Industrial Designer: Okay .Project Manager: We uh are to get acquainted .So does everyone want to say who they are ? {gap} that seem sensible ?Marketing: Yeah . I'm Robin .I'm the Marketing Manager .User Interface: I'm Louisa . I'm the User Interface Designer .IndustrialDesigner: I'm Nick . I am the Industrial Designer .Project Manager: And I'm Alastair and I'm the projectleader . {vocalsound} Alright okay , so tool training . Um . {vocalsound} Project plan . So does anyonehave any uh thoughts as to the tool training that uh is required ?Industrial Designer: Tool trainingUserInterface: I'm not exactly sure what you mean by tool training .Project Manager: Neither am I {gap}.User Interface: {vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager: Oh I see , so we shouldn't reallybe {disfmarker} Oh right okay , so . So we have the project team , which is to um {vocalsound} basicallyto come up with a new r remote control device .Industrial Designer: {gap}Project Manager: Uh we haveuh {disfmarker} the starting base was the original {vocalsound} which has been in existence now for aperiod of time . And uh our idea is to uh to make the new remote control device uh more user friendlythan the previous one , and to {vocalsound} to be trendier , to be with it , and therefore to uh to get abigger market share and bigger audience .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yeah .Project Manager: Soum {vocalsound} method of doing this is uh split up as you can see into uh {vocalsound} the functionaldesign , the conceptional design , and the detailed design . So um {vocalsound} in each of these uhphases we'll uh basically be handing over to yourselves , the designers of this uh this device .IndustrialDesigner: Yes .Project Manager: And uh having uh meetings so that we can uh during the course of theday um come up with a better better inst implement than we had before . And therefore um have asuccessful uh conclusion to the day . Um and you'll be doing uh various designs uh throughout the day tomeet this end .Marketing: Mm-hmm , okay .Project Manager: So we've got tool training . Try outwhiteboard . Uh . {vocalsound} So we will um .Marketing: {vocalsound}User Interface:{vocalsound}Project Manager: Right so everyone's to uh supposedly uh draw their favourite animal overon the white board over there . I guess this is uh make sure the whiteboard works . So uh I don't knowwho wishes to go first .Industrial Designer: Okay {gap} .Marketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager:{vocalsound} Do you wish to go f Have a first bash at uh whatever .User Interface: I don't mind .{vocalsound}Marketing: I dunno . {vocalsound}User Interface: Um .Project Manager: Ah uh .{vocalsound}User Interface: Let's see .Marketing: {gap}User Interface: Good job I got pockets today.Project Manager: But now you you uh you'll move out from the microphone and the camera .Marketing:Your microphone's just {disfmarker}Project Manager: I take it that {disfmarker}User Interface: Are wesupposed to do this right now , do you think , or ?Project Manager: I would {vocalsound} I would guessso . Or {gap} {disfmarker}Marketing: Yeah . I don't know .Industrial Designer: You've lost uh yourmicrophone there .Project Manager: {vocalsound} Technical problems .User Interface: Oh . Right herewe go .Project Manager: I mean you designers are meant to come up with these sort of things .IndustrialDesigner: {gap} {vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound}User Interface: {vocalsound}Project Manager:{vocalsound} {vocalsound}User Interface: Okay . I think that I would have to say that my favouriteanimal is the cat . Little smiley cat there . Um and this would be because they're very independent , uhthey're very intelligent , compared to dogs maybe .Project Manager: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer:{vocalsound}User Interface: Um {vocalsound} and they can be very very affectionate . Some peopledon't think so but I know very affectionate cats . Um . Um and they can look after themselves .ProjectManager: {gap} {vocalsound}User Interface: {vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager:Next . {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Okay , yeah . I'll I'll {disfmarker}User Interface: Shall I rub thatout , actually ?Project Manager: I don't see as there's any need to . There's plenty of space .IndustrialDesigner: {gap}Project Manager: I mean whatever . {vocalsound}User Interface:{vocalsound}Marketing: We can have have a whole menagerie . {vocalsound}Project Manager: Exactly.Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Shall I see if I can get across without just tangling everything . Okay"} {"doc_id":"doc_166","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: Okay , welcome everyone to our next meeting . I'm busy writing and busy leading themeeting , but um I've prepared a little presentation once again um or at least an agenda I think uh thebiggest part of the presentation will be uh on your side . Um we are here at the conceptual designmeeting , which is hereby opened . Um once again I will try to uh write some minutes which I just fromthe previous meeting uh placed inside our project folder , which was quite some typing . Um today weonce again have uh three presentations , if I'm right , and after that we will take a decision on the remotecontrol concepts . And just as the last time we have forty minutes to accomplish that . Okay ,wellIndustrial Designer: {vocalsound}Project Manager: I'd say let's start with the first presentation.Marketing: 'Kay .Project Manager: Um in the same order as last time ?Industrial Designer: W sure .UserInterface: Mm . Alright .Project Manager: Okay . Well , take it away .User Interface:{vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {gap} {vocalsound} Okay uh welcome you all .User Interface:{vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Components design , um {vocalsound} uhfirst of all uh I would like to uh uh accommodate some of those uh things I uh uh {disfmarker} elaboratesome of the things I did . I I elaborated on the concept . What should be um uh said about uh thecomponents , uh its properties and what kind of materials should we use to uh to make uh one of those rremote controls . Uh well first of all I've uh d subtracted some of the components that is that are used uhare w w um {vocalsound} you know from what uh the remote control's formed . Uh first of all , the case ,the case , the surrounding of the of the the remote control . {vocalsound} I would like to uh give you anidea of uh how I thought about .Marketing: Don't destroy my giraffe .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Giraffe's gone now .Marketing: {vocalsound}User Interface: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Okay umthe case was is made from rubber , I suppose . There's one of the {disfmarker} because when you use aremote control a lot of people uh will uh will uh drop their remote controlMarketing: Drop it .UserInterface: Hmm .Industrial Designer: and they break uh becau the uh titanium was also an option . Butuh it's a very expensive material . Uh rubber is , I think , uh the best suitable uh material uh to use uh forour uh for our remote control . Um it's poss it's also possible to uh create fancy colours with rubber . Uhrubber l makes it easy to uh to to {disfmarker} it lets lets itself colour . Uh titanium uh you have to paintit and with that uh it's possible to scratch it or uh yeah make it ugly . Uh rubber uh the total uh piece ofrubber that's sor uh that's that's used uh to make the case is uh the same colour , so if you scratch it it'sstill the same colour , perhaps uh it's a little bit damaged . But it's a very strong material . Um{vocalsound} I h I had an idea single covered uh curved , sorry , single curved .User Interface:{vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Uh so it's t two dimensional . I think it's uh it's best to draw ohUserInterface: {vocalsound} It's a colour . {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: green .Marketing: {vocalsound}Bright colour . Fancy colour . Forward .Industrial Designer: Uh {disfmarker} New . Blank . Okay.Marketing: You have to go tIndustrial Designer: Let's make it uh black . Okay . I thought of an idea likethis . Oh {gap} that . {vocalsound} Um delete . Blank . Okay . So it also looks nice when it's on yourtable .User Interface: {gap}Industrial Designer: So you get uh it doesn't lay flat down on the table , butit's c it's stands .Marketing: Oh it's a side view .Industrial Designer: Side view yes it's side view so uh II'm not technically good at th three D_ modelling ,User Interface: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: but.Marketing: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Um uh it's just an idea I had so it's uh it's very uh so itsalso looks nice when it's on the table . Um the graphical user interface and the buttons , uh we alsothought about that already . Uh I thought about uh the L_C_D_ touch screen , which is uh is easy toclean too . One of the great uh advantages of the L_C_D_ screen you just use some {gap} or uh anotheruh cleaning uh uh cl some cleaning stuff .User Interface: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: And um itshould be made of strong plastic and it should be bright . Well I already uh s uh explained someproperties of that material and I think uh well we also we almost concluded about that uh this should uhbe uh our uh button component .Marketing: True .Industrial Designer: So uh uh that's all about uh thebuttons . Uh the batteries , uh we also thought about that already , uh will be chargeable with uh uh anoption for a mount station so you can uh put the uh {vocalsound} the remote control in a mount station"} {"doc_id":"doc_167","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: Okay , is everybody ready ?Industrial Designer: Yeah ?Marketing: Yeah I'd to just puton my microphone here and I'll be right with you .Project Manager: Mm-hmm .Marketing: Okay ?ProjectManager: Um {vocalsound} I take it you all have received instructions as to what you were supposed todoIndustrial Designer: Mm ?User Interface: Yes .Project Manager: and um I think the Marketing Managerprobably should go first , addressing the needs and desires .Marketing: {vocalsound} Okay you want meto start right now ?Project Manager: Yeah , mm-hmm .Marketing: Okay .Project Manager:{vocalsound}Marketing: Well , could you um put my slides up 'cause I think it might be helpful if uh welooked at the slides at the same time .Project Manager: Okay . You're participant four .Marketing: I'mparticipant four I believe . Yes uh-huh .Project Manager: Okay , and now I can uh full screen .Marketing:'Kay .Industrial Designer: Open .Project Manager: Uh , okay , okay .Marketing: There we go . Okay well Ithink we have introduced ourselves ,Industrial Designer: And then full screen .Marketing: so thefunctional requirements are {disfmarker} is {vocalsound} is part of my goal but why don't we pass rightto the second slide . Cause that's where m my discussion starts . Right well um since I'm in charge oftrying to figure out what we should put on this thing since I have to try to sell it .Industrial Designer:Mm-hmm .Marketing: Um {vocalsound} I thought that the method I should follow would be gathersuggestions from everybody , and th the reason I just put that there like that is that uh in the init in theinitial stage I think I should just be open to lots of suggestions . You know you can say anything you wantno matter how silly it sounds you know it should run your car , it should heat up your motor if should umturn on your C_D_ {vocalsound} whatever you want it to do {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: 'Kay.Marketing: um and then as we go on what we'll have to do is accept and eliminate these suggestionsaccording to um design and budget feasibility . So I'll be coming to you um frequently as the IndustrialExpert to tell me how hard it's gonna be to add a feature or how expensive it's gonna be or if your time ,if it takes five years to develop this it's just something we can't do .Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm . Yeah. Yeah . Yeah . Hmm hmm . Mm .Marketing: So in the beginning just have a big puddle of things that we{disfmarker} anybody can th throw anything inIndustrial Designer: Yeah .Marketing: and then just weedthings out that can't be done for one reason or another , and then the things that seem the mostattractive that to uh to a customer we'll try to then prioritise those .Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm . Yeah.Marketing: So that was um what I meant there , and as I said on the slide there consulting the IndustrialEngineer about that and the other thing is timing is really gonna be as important as money , because ifwe're gonna sell this thing , I think the best time to sell it is as a Christmas present . Twenty five Eurosmakes a nice little present , and we want it to be an impulse purchase ,Industrial Designer: Mm.Marketing: we want somebody to see it and think it's , gee I just gotta have that . And take out theirwallet and buy it . So it's gotta be really attractive and it {disfmarker} but it's gotta go to market bySeptember , 'cause anything that you don't already have out there in September showing it around , isn'tgonna sell for Christmas .Industrial Designer: Yeah .Marketing: Um {vocalsound} and then I'll be comingto you as the User Interface person to try to tell me from your point of view what are the most friendlyfeatures that we could put on it and try to prior help me with that prioritising of uh of the features and ofthe the look and the colourUser Interface: Okay .Marketing: and I'll be coming back to you to help weedout those suggestions from that point of view .User Interface: Okay .Marketing: So I'll be coming to youfor how much is it gonna cost us and how long is it gonna take you ,Industrial Designer: Mm mm-hmm.Marketing: and I'll be coming to you to tell me what's gonna make somebody take out their wallet youknow ,User Interface: What features .Marketing: what what's what's gonna really be what they call asizzle ,User Interface: S sellable . Yes {vocalsound} .Marketing: 'cause we gotta sell this sizzle{vocalsound} .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Marketing: A lot of times the thing that works the bestfrom an engineering point of view isn't the thing that somebody's really just gonna take out their walletand buy for Christmas for for their child or for their husband or whatever .User Interface: Yes .Marketing:Okay can we go to the next slide please ? Alright I I already did a little bit of research after our firstmeeting where we threw out some ideas and it looks to me that within the budget that we're looking at"} {"doc_id":"doc_168","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: {vocalsound} Oh .User Interface: DuProject Manager: Okay . Thanks for coming to thismeeting .Marketing: Hm .Project Manager: S how we doing on our remote ?User Interface:{vocalsound}Project Manager: We have some {disfmarker} we have some ideas and some uh ideas forwhat people want .User Interface: Uh we yes s I've lo {vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound}UserInterface: I've done the role that I was asked to do anyway .Project Manager: Yeah .User Interface:{vocalsound} I think .Marketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound} Alright let's just go overthe agenda real quick for this meeting . See if I can't get things uh moving along here a little bit better .Um I'll go over what we went over last time , which shouldn't take long . Then I believe each of you havea presentation . Um I've was sent a a couple more requirements for our remote , what they want . Umthen we can come to a conclusion on uh what we want the remote to do , um and how it's going to do ithopefully . And uh then we'll have the closing . {vocalsound} Um which we'll have forty minutes for . Uhlet's see , the last meeting we went over um {vocalsound} who was responsible for what . I'mresponsible for leading the meetings , keeping the notes , uh and coming up with the final presentation .Um Corinne is our Marketing Expert . She's gonna figure out what what um the consumer wants . Um{vocalsound} Ryan is our User Interface Designer . And Manuel is the Industrial Designer . So you'regonna come up with the ideas Ryan , and you're gonna pick 'em apart .User Interface:{vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound} Um we decided our remote , uh we want it to be a universalremote uh that everyone would want . Um we want to be modern , um fun , different . Uh it needs to besturdy , um easy to find , so we gonna have that locator function . Um and we want to be different . Umand then we went over a couple of different ideas . Ball-shaped phone . The keyboard shape . Um wedecided that it should probably be one-handed . Something we could use with one hand . Um and thatwas our last meeting . So um why don't um {disfmarker} Do each of you have a presentation?Marketing: Yep .Project Manager: Okay . I'll hand it off to you and um {disfmarker} Does anyone{disfmarker} do you wanna go first ?Marketing: Sure .Project Manager: So we can maybe see what uhwhat the people want .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Marketing: What was it ? Function ?IndustrialDesigner: Eight . F_ eight .Marketing: F_ eight ? Well . {vocalsound} How do I get it {disfmarker}UserInterface: Slide show .Project Manager: To go to the next one ?Marketing: Oh right right right .ProjectManager: Yeah you click on that guy .Marketing: That one ?Project Manager: Yeah .Marketing: Okay .Alright . Well , this is my report , which is going to be based pretty much on a survey that I was sent . Ohgosh , I've no idea . {vocalsound} GUser Interface: Just press the arrow keys I think . Usually goes to it.Marketing: Okay .Project Manager: {vocalsound}Marketing: Sorry I actually need to see something elseon my screen .Project Manager: {vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager: Hit F_ eightagain .Marketing: Yeah .Project Manager: I think .Marketing: And then ? Again ?Project Manager: Yeah .You want it to be on both screens , or just just yours ?Marketing: No I want something else on mine . Isthat possible ?Project Manager: Yeah but I think you have to hit escape . And then you can {disfmarker}Yeah .Marketing: Okay but now you don't have that .Project Manager: Oh hit F_ eight again .Marketing:{vocalsound} Sorry guys .Project Manager: I know . I did the same thing . {vocalsound}Marketing:{vocalsound}Project Manager: And then it should come up here shortly . 'Kay .Marketing: {vocalsound}So is there no way I can give you the slideshow andProject Manager: I think {disfmarker} oh give us theslideshow and something on your screen ?Marketing: yeah . Yeah .Project Manager: Mm .Marketing: Ohwell .Project Manager: I'm not sure . You could maybe minimise that screen and then have them both upat the same time I think .Marketing: Yeah . It's okay . Okay . Um so first of all , the method that I usedwas by doing some marketing research ,Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Marketing: by um doingresearch on some interviews that were conducted . And then some internet research . And I was sent areport that was {disfmarker} I think there were a hundred remote users that they interviewed . And so Iwill show you some of the results from that , which I think will be helpful . Um okay here are some of thefindings . They said that the users dislike the look and feel of their current remote controls . And seventyfive percent of the users find their remote controls to be ugly . Which is a fairly significant number I"} {"doc_id":"doc_169","qid":"","text":"Grad F: Test .Postdoc G: OK .Professor B: Let 's see , I should be Two .PhD D: Up high {disfmarker}GradE: As close to your mouth as you can get it .Professor B: LaPhD D: high as you can get .Professor B: Isthis channel one ?Postdoc G: Yeah , on your upper lip .PhD H: Channel one one one .Professor B: Gee ,OK . Yes . OK .Grad E: OK , so for {disfmarker} for {disfmarker} For people wearing the wireless mikes ,like {disfmarker} like this one , I find the easiest way to wear it is sorta this {disfmarker} this sorta likethat .PhD H: This is {disfmarker} chan channel channel one one two threeGrad F: Channel five , channelfive .Professor B: Yeah . Mm - hmm . What do you do ,Grad E: It 's actually a lot more comfortable then ifyou try to put it over your temples ,Grad F: Test , test test .Professor B: you do it higher ?Grad E: so{disfmarker}Professor B: Mm - hmm .PhD D: Adam 's just trying to generate good uh data for therecognizer there .Postdoc G: Yeah , I think we 're supposed to {disfmarker} that 's right .Grad E: Andthen also , for {disfmarker} for all of them , if your boom is adjustable , the boom should be towards thecorner of your mouth ,Grad F: Test test .PhD A: By the way , there was a bug . Yeah , i it wasn't usingthe properPhD D: Oh it was .Grad E: and about a uh a thumb to a thumb and a half distance away fromyour mouth ,PhD A: basically it wasn't adapting anything .PhD D: Oh .Grad E: so about like I 'm wearingit now .PhD D: Oh that 's interesting . So why didn't you get the same results and the unadapted ?GradE: so so Jane , you could actually do even a little closer to your mouth ,PhD H: It 's not always possible.PhD A: Hmm ?PhD D: Why didn't you get the same results and the unadapted ?Postdoc G: I could{disfmarker} can this be adjuste like this ?Grad E: but {disfmarker}PhD A: Oh , because when itestimates the transformer pro produces like a single matrix or something .Grad E: Yep .Postdoc G: Is that@ @ ? OK , thank you .Grad F: Adam , I 'm not {disfmarker}PhD D: O Oh oh I see .Grad F: uh , lookskinda low on channel five {disfmarker}PhD D: I see , I see .Professor B: OK .Grad F: no ?Grad E:Channel five , s speak again .Grad F: Maybe not .Postdoc G: Hello .PhD A: Basically there were nocountsGrad E: Yeah , that 's alright .Grad F: Hello ?Grad E: I mean , we could {disfmarker} we could upthe gain slightly if you wanted to .Grad F: It 's OK ?PhD H: Yeah .Grad F: Is this OK ?PhD H: OK .PhD D: Isee what you mean .PhD C: Who 's channel B ?Grad E: but {disfmarker} Uh , channel B is probably Liz.PhD C: Uh oh .PhD H: Uh channel B {disfmarker} I am channel B .Professor B: You wanna close this,Postdoc G: Channel eight , eight .Professor B: orPhD C: No IGrad E: Thank you .PhD H: No , channel B.PhD A: Hello , hello .PhD C: yeah , yeah , you 're channel B .PhD H: Yeah , yeah .PhD C: So can you talka bit ? I thought it might be tooPhD H: OK , yeah , channel B , one two three four five .PhD C: OK .GradE: Yeah , it 's alright . So , the gain isn't real good .Professor B: We 're recording ,PhD C: OK .ProfessorB: right ?Grad E: OK , so we are recording .PhD H: Ah .Professor B: Yeah .PhD A: OK .Grad E: Umeveryone should have at least two forms possibly three in front of you depending on who you are .GradF: Oh .Grad E: Um we {disfmarker} we 're doing a new speaker form and you only have to spea fill outthe speaker form once but everyone does need to do it . And so that 's the name , sex , email , et cetera.PhD H: Mm - hmm .Grad E: We {disfmarker} we had a lot of discussion about the variety of English andso on so if you don't know what to put just leave it blank . Um I {disfmarker} I designed the form and Idon't know what to put for my own region ,PhD A: Mmm .Grad E: soPhD D: California .PhD A: I think{disfmarker}Grad E: California .PhD H: California .PhD A: Um may I make one suggestion ? Instead ofage put date of {disfmarker} uh year of birthGrad E: Sure .PhD A: because age will change , but Theyear of birth changes , you know , stays the same , usually .Grad E: Oh .PhD C: A actually , wait a minute,Grad E: Birth year ?Postdoc G: Although on {disfmarker}PhD A: Yeah .PhD C: shouldn't it be the otherway around ?PhD D: Not for me .Postdoc G: course on the other {disfmarker} on the other hand youcould {disfmarker} you view it as the age at the time of the {disfmarker}PhD C: On the other side ,PhDA: Well the thing is , if ten years from now you look at this form knowing that {disfmarker}PhD C: yeah.Postdoc G: Yes , but what we care about is the age at {disfmarker} at the recording date rather than the{disfmarker}PhD C: O yeah .PhD D: But there 's no other date on the form .PhD C: W we don't care howthey {disfmarker} old they really are .PhD A: Well {disfmarker} well I don't know .Postdoc G: Yes .{vocalsound} Unless we wanna send them a card .Grad E: Well I guess it depends on how long the"} {"doc_id":"doc_170","qid":"","text":"Lynne Neagle AM: Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the Children, Young People and EducationCommittee. We've received apologies for absence from Janet Finch-Saunders. I'd like to take thisopportunity to welcome Suzy Davies to the committee, and to thank Mark Reckless and Darren Millar,who have left us, for their service and hard work as members of the committee. Can I ask whether thereare any declarations of interest, please? No. Okay. We will move on then to our evidence session on ourinquiry into the impact of Brexit on higher and further education. I'm very pleased to welcome KirstyWilliams, Cabinet Secretary for Education, and Eluned Morgan AM, Minister for Welsh Language andLifelong Learning. Can I just ask you to introduce your officials for the record, please?Kirsty Williams AM:Bore da, Lynne, and thank you for the invitation to join you. Eluned and I are joined this morning by HuwMorris, who's the group director at SHELL—skills, higher education and lifelong learning—and Marie Knox,who is deputy director, overseeing European transition.Lynne Neagle AM: Okay, thank you very much,and thank you for coming. We'll go straight into questions, then, and the first questions are from SuzyDavies.Suzy Davies AM: Thank you. I'd like to ask you both, if that's okay, a little bit about preparedness.But if I could start with higher education, I understand that—I don't know, it must be about 18 monthsago now—Ken Skates told another committee in this place that there had been nine sector analyses done.Presumably, one of those was HE, because of the—well, Welsh Government had a presence, and stilldoes, in Brussels, related to higher education. Apparently, those have now been superseded by workthat's been done by Cardiff University. I don't know if you've got any comments on that research, orwhether it's been brought to your attention yet.Kirsty Williams AM: Well, Suzy, following the vote, I wasvery keen that we work very closely with colleagues in higher education and further education, to get anunderstanding from on the ground about the potential impact. So, in terms of preparedness, we startedthat group in the September, and that work from that group, which includes both HE and FE, has beeninstrumental in helping the Government form its views, which were articulated in the Government's WhitePaper, 'Securing Wales' Future'. There has been ongoing work being done—as the debate in London andEurope becomes a little bit more clear, then it becomes a little less clear, and then a little bit more clear,but, bearing in mind the difficulties of working in an ever-changing field, we have been refining thoseapproaches. Each institution has been looking at their own institution, because, as you can imagine,although we have an overview of the sector, the challenges are very different for individualinstitutions—so their exposure, for instance, to the number of European Union students that they have attheir college, or the work that they might be doing with Horizon 2020, or their success—and there hasbeen considerable success in the HE field in securing structural funds for various projects—the exposureand the potential impact of leaving the EU, in a 'no deal' or in a 'deal' scenario, is very, very different. ButI don't know if, Huw, you want to talk any further.Suzy Davies AM: Maybe just to use the 'no deal'scenario is probably the easiest, isn't it?Kirsty Williams AM: The 'no deal'?Suzy Davies AM: Well, yes,because that's the worst-case scenario, so let's look at that one.Huw Morris: As the Cabinet Secretarymentioned, the higher education Brexit working group's been meeting since September 2016 and hasbeen looking at that in general. More recently, when the prospect of no deal became talked about,officials have been visiting individual institutions to talk to them about their preparedness for that. Asyou'll be aware, the funding for much of the activity is secured, we believe, even under a 'no deal'scenario, until December 2020; that's a letter we had from the Chief Secretary to the Treasury. I thinkthe research you're referring to may be research that Cardiff University has been doing with theBevan Foundation and others. I know there's a report due to be launched later today. We have beendoing our own research and looking at the impact on HE, FE and apprenticeship providers.Suzy DaviesAM: Well, that's really helpful because my understanding was that this Cardiff University research hadsuperseded all those nine sector analyses.Huw Morris: That may be true for the economy brief. Certainly,there are published papers by Max Munday and a team at Cardiff University on the impact of Brexit onthe Welsh economy, but for HE and FE and apprenticeship provision, it's as the CabinetSecretary outlined.Suzy Davies AM: So, are there any formal risk assessments that are available for us to"} {"doc_id":"doc_171","qid":"","text":"Grad B: Grad D: How many batteries do you go through ?Grad B: Thank you .Professor C: Alright .PhD A:Sure .Professor C: Good . Yeah . OK so , let 's get started . Nancy said she 's coming and that means shewill be . Um . My suggestion is that Robert and Johno sort of give us a report on last week 's adventuresuh to start . So everybody knows there were these guys f uh from Heidelber - uh , uh , actually from uhDFKI uh , part of the German SmartKom project , who were here for the week and , I think got a lot done.Grad E: Yeah , I think so too . Um . The {disfmarker} we got to the point where we can now speak intothe SmartKom system , and it 'll go all the way through and then say something like \" Roman numeralone , am Smarticus . \" It actually says , \" Roemisch einz , am Smarticus , \"Grad B: OK .Grad E: whichmeans it 's just using a German sythesis module for English sentences .Grad B: OK .Grad E: So uh,Professor C: It doesn't know \" I \" .Grad B: OK .Grad E: Um , the uhGrad B: Oh , Am Spartacus . \"GradD: \" I am Sm - I am Smarticus \" is what it 's saying .PhD A: Right .Grad B: Verstehe . OK .Grad D: IgueGrad E: The uh sythesis is just a question of um , hopefully it 's just a question of exchanging acouple of files , once we have them . And , um , it 's not going to be a problem because we decided tostick to the so - called concept to speech approach . So I 'm {disfmarker} I 'm {disfmarker} I 'm goingbackwards now , so \" synthesis \" is where you sort of make this {disfmarker} uh , make these sounds ,and \" concept to speech \" is feeding into this synthesis module giving it what needs to be said , and thewhole syntactic structure so it can pronounce things better , presumably . Then , just with text to speech.Grad B: Mm - hmm .Grad E: And , uh , Johno learned how to write XML tags . Uh , and did write the treeadjoining grammar for some {disfmarker} some sentences . No , right ?Grad D: Yeah .Grad E: Yeah , fora couple {disfmarker}Grad D: So . Bu - Uh , i The way the uh , the dialogue manager works is it dumpsout what it wants to know , or what it wants to tell the person , to a {disfmarker} er in XML and there 's aconversion system for different uh , to go from XML to something else . And th so , the knowledge basefor the system , that generates the syntasti syntactic structures for the ge generation is uh , in a LISP -like {disfmarker} the knowledge base is in a LISP - like form . And then the thing that actually buildsthese syntactic structures is something based on Prolog . So , you have a {disfmarker} basically , a goaland it , you know , says \" OK , well I 'm gonna try to do the Greet - the - person goal ,Grad B: Mm - hmm.Grad D: so it just starts {disfmarker} uh , it binds some variables and it just decides to , you know , dosome subscold . Basically , it just means \" build the tree . \"Grad B: OK .Grad D: And then it passes thetree onto , uh , the ge the generation module .Grad E: But I think that the point is that out of the twelvepossible utterances that the German system can do , we 've already written the {disfmarker} the syntaxtrees for three or four .Grad D: We yeah . So , the syntax trees are very simple . It 's like most of thesentences in one tree ,Grad B: Mm - hmm .Grad D: and instead of , you know , breaking down to , like ,small units and building back up , they basically took the sentences , and basically cut them in half , oryou know , into thirds or something like that , and made trees out of those . And so uh , uh Tilman wrotea little tool that you could take LISP notation and generate an XML , uh , tree . Uh , S what do castructure from the {disfmarker} from the LISP . And so basically you just say , you know , \" noun goes to\" , you know , Er , nah , I don't re I 've never been good at those . So there 's like the VP goes to N andthose things in LISP , and it will generate for you .Grad B: OK . N , N , V yeah , OK . Alright .Grad E: Andbecause we 're sticking to that structure , the synthesis module doesn't need to be changed . So all that ffancy stuff , and the Texas speech version of it , which is actually the simpler version , is gonna be donein October which is much too late for us . So . This way we {disfmarker} we worked around that . The ,uh {disfmarker} the system , um {disfmarker} I can show you the system . I actually want , at least ,maybe , you should be able to start it on your own . If you wanna play around with it , in th in the future .Right now it 's brittle and you need to ch start it up and then make ts twenty changes on {disfmarker} on{disfmarker} on {disfmarker} on seventeen modules before they actually can stomach it , anything . Andsend in a {disfmarker} a {disfmarker} a couple of side queries on some dummy center set - up programso that it actually works because it 's designed for this seevit thing , where you have the gesturalrecognition running with this s Siemens virtual touch screen , which we don't have here .Grad B: Mm -"} {"doc_id":"doc_172","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}Project Manager:{vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Okay .Project Manager: Okay everyone's ready .User Interface: Hello.Project Manager: So we are here for uh for uh functional design .User Interface: {gap}Project Manager:Okay ? So we are here for the functional design meeting mm {vocalsound} so first I will show the agendaso we will uh I will take notes during this meeting so I will try to summarise it and put that summary inthe shared folder if you want to look at it afterwardsUser Interface: {vocalsound}Project Manager: sothen uh each of you will uh lead a presentation on the task that has been required last time so userrequirement specification , technical function design and working design . Then I will uh present yousome new project requirements I received from uh the management board . Then we will take uh thedecision on on the remote control uh needed functions and then I will assign you the task for the nextpart of the meeting . Of the {disfmarker} of the process . So uh who want to start the the presentation ofwhat they did ?Industrial Designer: F do you want to start ?User Interface: Make a start yeah .ProjectManager: You can start .User Interface: So . {vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound}User Interface:Cable , camera .Project Manager: You have uh PowerPoint ?User Interface: Should be in my {disfmarker}in their folder no ?Project Manager: Ah yeah maybe there . Okay .User Interface: Up .Project Manager:Who are you ? {vocalsound}User Interface: Um at three I think .Project Manager: {vocalsound}UserInterface: No ? {vocalsound} Mm .Project Manager: Ouch . And {disfmarker}User Interface:{vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Okay . {vocalsound}Project Manager: We have a technical problem uh.User Interface: Do we think w s in the {disfmarker} in the wrong folder maybe ? {vocalsound} It ispossible .Project Manager: You put it on {disfmarker}Industrial Designer: No .User Interface: It wassomewhere in something like this . I don't remember the name actually must be something likemessenger AMI or something .Industrial Designer: What do you have in short cut ?User Interface: Go up.Industrial Designer: Participant two .User Interface: Yeah go up .Project Manager: Yeah .User Interface:Again . No . Go back .Project Manager: You have no {disfmarker}User Interface: Uh maybe messengerAMI . Messenger .Project Manager: Over . Okay .User Interface: No . There is nothing .Project Manager:There's no {disfmarker} We have a technical problem .User Interface: Let's go and check .IndustrialDesigner: Yeah .User Interface: I'll go and check .Industrial Designer: Otherwise , could you just describeby hand ?User Interface: Okay .Industrial Designer: With the the whiteboard ?Project Manager: If youremember yeahUser Interface: Yeah . Yeah .Project Manager: but that's {disfmarker}User Interface: Souh . Basically {vocalsound} what we want here is a remote control right .Project Manager: Yeah .UserInterface: {vocalsound} So um the question well first of all what to control . So {vocalsound} mostpeople want to have a a remote for their hi-fi and T_V_ and stuff like that .Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm.User Interface: And {disfmarker} but other people want th also remotes for {vocalsound} controlling uhand toys like robotic pets and little robots and stuffIndustrial Designer: Mm-hmm .User Interface: andother people also want to have remotes for controlling um whole house .Project Manager: Yeah.Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .User Interface: Yeah , so there's a project I think called X_ house orsomething like that that does that , uh you can integrate your remote with uh computers stuff . So{vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .User Interface: there is one {disfmarker} that is one thing .The other is the the finder feature yeah by whistling or whatever . Uh if you have the finder feature thenyou can also haveIndustrial Designer: Okay .User Interface: uh at the same time as {disfmarker} andgeneral voice commands if you want yeah . {vocalsound} So I think it should be a package in that case.Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .User Interface: Uh so the user interface will consist of two parts .{vocalsound} One is the voice command part and on one is the actual buttons part . {vocalsound} Uhand th the buttons part would be uh a set of buttons for choosing devices , a set of buttons for specialnavigation in space ,Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm . Mm-hmm .User Interface: a set of buttons for{vocalsound} linear access of medium and a set of buttons for random access .Project Manager: Okay.User Interface: Yeah ?Industrial Designer: What do you mean by linear access then ?User Interface: Likea video tape goes forward , backwards , uh fast and stuff yeah .Industrial Designer: Ah .Project Manager:"} {"doc_id":"doc_173","qid":"","text":"Grad A: Yeah , I think I got my mike on . OK . Let 's see .Professor B: OK . Ami , do yours then we 'llopen it and I think it 'll be enough .Grad A: Mmm {disfmarker} Doesn't , uh {disfmarker} It should bethe other way . Yeah , now it 's on .PhD F: Right . OK .Professor B: OK . So , we all switched on ?Grad A:We are all switched on , yeah .Professor B: Alright . Anyway . So , uh , before we get started with the , uh, technical part , I just want to review what I think is happening with the {disfmarker} our data collection.PhD F: We are all switched on .Professor B: So {disfmarker} {vocalsound} Uh , probably after today ,{vocalsound} that shouldn't come up in this meeting . Th - this {disfmarker} this is s should be im it isn't{disfmarker} There 's another thing going on of gathering data , and that 's pretty much independent ofthis . But , uh , I just want to make sure we 're all together on this . What we think is gonna happen isthat , uh , in parallel starting about now {vocalsound} we 're gonna get Fey {vocalsound} to , where you're working with me and Robert , draft a note that we 're gonna send out to various CogSci c and otherclasses saying , \" here 's an opportunity to be a subject . Contact Fey . \" And then there 'll be a certainnumber of um , hours during the week which she will be available and we 'll bring in people . Uh , roughlyhow many , Robert ? We d Do we know ?Grad C: Um , fifty was our {disfmarker} sort of our first{disfmarker}Professor B: OK . So , we 're looking for a total of fifty people , not necessarily by anymeans all students but we 'll s we 'll start with {disfmarker} with that . In parallel with that , we 'regonna need to actually do the script . And , so , I guess there 's a plan to have a meeting Fridayafternoon Uh , with {disfmarker} uh , Jane , and maybe Liz and whoever , on actually getting the scriptworked out . But what I 'd like to do , if it 's O K , {vocalsound} is to s to , as I say , start the recruiting inparallel and possibly start running subjects next week . The week after that 's Spring Break , and maybewe 'll look for them {disfmarker} some subjects next doorGrad C: Yeah .Professor B: or {pause} iGrad C:Yeah . Also , Fey will not be here during spring break .Professor B: Oh , OK , then we won't do it .Grad C:So .Professor B: OK . So that 's easy . Um . So , is {disfmarker} Is that make sense to everybody ?GradC: Yeah . Also , um , F {vocalsound} both Fey and I will , um , {vocalsound} do something of which Imay , eh {disfmarker} kindly ask you to {disfmarker} to do the same thing , which is we gonna checkout our social infrastructures for possible subjects . Meaning , {vocalsound} um , kid children 'sgymnastic classes , pre - school parents and so forth . They also sometimes have flexible schedules . So ,if you happen to be sort of in a non - student social setting , and you know people who may be interestedin being subjects {disfmarker} We also considered using the Berkeley High School and their teachers ,maybe , and get them interested in stuff .Professor B: That 's a good idea .Grad C: And , um . So that 'sas far as our brainstorming was concerned .Professor B: Oh , yeah . The high school 's a great idea .GradC: So . But I {disfmarker} I will just make a first draft of the , uh , note , the \" write - up \" note , send itto you and Fey and then {disfmarker}Professor B: And why don't you also copy Jane on it ?Grad C: And ,um , Are we {disfmarker} Have we concurred that , uh , these {disfmarker} these forms are sufficient forus , and necessary ?Professor B: Uh , th I think they 're necessary . This {disfmarker} The permissionform .Grad C: Mmm .Professor B: Uh , there has to be one ,Grad C: Nuh . N .Professor B: and I think we're just gonna use it as it is , and {pause} UmGrad C: N . You happy with that ?Professor B: Well , yeah .There 's one tricky part about , um , they have the right um I The last paragraph {comment} \" if youagree to participate you have the opportunity to have anything excised which you would prefer not tohave included in the data set . \" OK ? Now that , we had to be included for this other one which mighthave , uh , meetings , you know , about something .Grad C: Mm - hmm .Professor B: In this case , itdoesn't really make sense . Um , so what I 'd like to do is also have our subjects sign a waiver saying \" Idon't want to see the final transcript \" .Grad C: Mm - hmm .Professor B: And if they don't {disfmarker} Ifthey say \" no , I 'm not willing to sign that \" , then we 'll show them the final transcript . But , um .GradC: Yep . Makes sense .Professor B: That , uh {disfmarker} yeah , so we might actually , um S i Jane maysay that , \" you know , you can't do this \" , uh , \" on the same form , we need a separate form . \" Butanyway . I 'd {disfmarker} I 'd {disfmarker} I 'd like to , e e um , add an a little thi eh {disfmarker} athing for them to initial , saying \" nah , do I don't want to see the final transcript . \"Grad C: Mm - hmm"} {"doc_id":"doc_174","qid":"","text":"Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Project Manager: Okay , welcome to the second meeting of this uhdesign group . Um {vocalsound} I'll briefly go through the uh notes of the of the last meeting uh justdone in in note form and I haven't attributed anything to individuals , because we're working strictly as ateam here and uh n nobody's working equally ,User Interface: Sorry .Project Manager: so uh . Um we wes we saw that the the problems with existing remote controls were the uh b a boring shape and boringcolour . Um and and we s we saw that the um what we needed to do was to to make sure the device umcontrols several items , that switching was easy , that you shouldn't need to point the thing at uhanything in particular , um that it need to be contoured to make it interesting , that the keys might beconcave , simply because that hasn't been done before that we know of . Um should haveinterchangeable fascias so people can personalise it , um illuminated so that people can see it in darkrooms . Um and that people might want it as as {disfmarker} in addition to their existing remote controls. Um {vocalsound} and that it sh it should just always work , whenever you uh um mm uh use it . Andthat it shouldn't be too small , mm that it it gets lost . Um . {gap} Now uh uh I'll shortly ask for for threethree presentations . Uh before I do that , however , I will go through some new project requirementsthat um {disfmarker} the the management have placed on us and uh will be challenging in terms of whatwe discussed at the first meeting . Um the uh the ma the management has had it's own thoughts on thisand uh the they don't necessarily agree with with what we uh we thought . Um and and then we'll{disfmarker} as a result of that we will then talk through the the functions that we see the the device umactually b carrying out , and we have uh forty minutes to do this in and I uh {disfmarker} Anyway . Okay. Now , the n the new requirements are um the the management team see that um teletext is no longerof any importance given the uh the rise of the internet . Um and and they want it only to cover televisions. Um now , what is not q quite clear from their directive is whether they mean th they don't want it tocover teletext or whether they don't want it to cover , you know , videos , D_V_D_s , um satellite boxes ,which uh {disfmarker} I mean we saw as being fundamental to the uh to the exercise . The um the actualwording of the directive is that it should cover television only . Um and on that basis um I I think we weneed to bear that in mind , um but possibly uh keep at the backs of our minds that the reality that peopleeven when they uh no longer {disfmarker} they don't look at teletext anymore , they certainly do look atother things . Um {vocalsound} the device has to incorporate the company logo and colours . Um the thelogo uh being at b the bottom of the screen there , the the the two R_s in grey against uh a yellowbackground . Um now this doesn't {vocalsound} necessarily mean that we have to give up some of ourideas about making it attractive to the t to the market . But uh do do introduce some some constraints asto how we might do that . Um it also has to be simple , which to some extent goes along w with the firstone , and that {disfmarker} we've already said that it must be simple 'cause that's what people wantanyway . Um but they also want it to be simple to get it to the market quickly , which um mm{vocalsound} uh is is is their choice , but uh um we we need to talk that through . Um okay , so uh afterthe meeting it'll be summarised and uhIndustrial Designer: {vocalsound}User Interface:{vocalsound}Project Manager: um notes sent out and uh etcetera . Okay , so {vocalsound} we'll first ofall mm have individual reports from everybody . Um again I {vocalsound} {disfmarker} there is no orderof precedence here um so I I I'll leave it up to you to {disfmarker} who who who thinks they would like togo go first ?Marketing: Uh I don't mind . {gap}Project Manager: P fine .Marketing: Uh can I steal thecable ?Project Manager: Oh sorry , you can indeed .Marketing: Cheers .Project Manager: {vocalsound}{vocalsound} {vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound} I got a {disfmarker} how do I start there ?ProjectManager: Oh , if you click on the um uh the one that that looks like a projection screen , no the one tothe right of that . That one .Marketing: That one . Cool . Well these are functionality requirements fromthe {disfmarker} our our guys down in the the research lab . Took hundred people and covered all theaspects of what um is needed by people and what they want to see . Um {vocalsound} everything kindafrom functionality and how individual functions are {disfmarker} how mu how how often they're used andhow much their necessary and stuff . And general opinions about current current remotes . See that , as"} {"doc_id":"doc_175","qid":"","text":"Grad G: headphones that aren't so uncomfortable .PhD B: I think {disfmarker} Well , this should be offthe record ,Professor D: Hmm .PhD B: but I think {disfmarker}Professor D: Uh , OK .Professor A: We 'renot recording yet , are we ?Grad G: Well , I don't think {disfmarker}PhD F: No , uh , that {disfmarker}that wasn't recorded .Grad G: No . Um , I don't think they 're designed to be over your ears .PhD B: Yeah, I know . It just {disfmarker} it really hurts . It gives you a headache , like if you {disfmarker} On yourtemple {disfmarker}PhD F: Temple squeezers .PhD B: Yeah .Grad G: Yep .PhD B: Yeah .Professor D: Mm- hmm .Grad G: But I definitely {pause} haven't figured it out .Professor A: Um , Meeting Recordermeeting .PhD F: I guess I have to d stop doing this sigh of contentment , you know , after sippingcappuccino or something .PhD B: Yeah , with the {disfmarker} We kno I know .Grad G: \" Sip , sigh .\"PhD B: We know exactly how much you have left in your cup .PhD F: I was just noticing a big sProfessorD: So are we recording now ? Is this {disfmarker}PhD E: Yeah .Professor D: Oh ! We 're {disfmarker} we're {disfmarker} we 're live . OK .PhD E: Yeah .Professor D: So , uh , {vocalsound} what were we gonnatalk about again ? So we said {disfmarker} we said data collection , which we 're doing .PhD B: Were wegonna do digits ?Professor A: OK . Do we do th do you go around the room {pause} and do names oranything ?Grad G: I think that {disfmarker}PhD E: It 's a good idea .Grad G: u usually we 've done thatand also we 've s done digits as well , but I forgot to print any out . So . Besides with this big a group,PhD B: You can write them on the board , if you want .Professor D: No . I it 'd be even better with thisbig {disfmarker}Grad G: it would take too much time .PhD E: Which way is {disfmarker}Grad G: Yeah ,but it takes too much time .PhD E: Mari ?Postdoc H: What {disfmarker}Professor A: What ?Professor D:It 's not that long .PhD E: Y I think your {disfmarker} your {disfmarker} your thing {nonvocalsound}may be pointing in a funny direction . Sort of it 's {disfmarker} it helps if it points sort of upwards.Professor A: Whoops .PhD E: Sort of it {disfmarker} you know .Professor A: Would it {disfmarker}mPhD E: Yeah .Professor D: w uPhD E: So that thing {disfmarker} the little {disfmarker} th that partshould be pointing upwards .Professor A: So {disfmarker} Oh , this thing .PhD E: That 's it . Yeah.Professor A: Yeah .Postdoc H: Otherwise you just get a heartbeats .Professor A: It 's kind of{disfmarker}Professor D: Oh , yeah , the element , yeah , n should be as close to you {disfmarker} yourmouth as possible .Professor A: Yeah . OK .PhD E: That 's good . That kind of thing is good .Postdoc H: It's a {disfmarker}Professor A: This w Alright .PhD E: Yeah .Professor A: How 's that working ?Professor D:Yeah .PhD E: Oh , yeah . It 's a {disfmarker} It 's working .Professor A: OK .Professor D: Alright . Sowhat we had {pause} was that we were gonna talk about data collection , and , um , uh , you{disfmarker} you put up there data format ,Professor A: Um .Professor D: and other tasks during datacollection ,Professor A: So , I think the goal {disfmarker} the goal was what can we do {disfmarker} howcan you do the data collection differently to get {disfmarker}Professor D: and {disfmarker}Professor A:what can you add to it to get , um , some information that would be helpful for the user - interface design? Like {disfmarker}Grad G: Uh , especially for querying .Professor A: Especially for querying . So ,getting people to do queries afterwards , getting people to do summaries afterwards . Um .Postdoc H:Well , one thing that came up in the morning {disfmarker} in the morning was the , um , i uh , if he{disfmarker} I , um {disfmarker} if he has {disfmarker} s I {disfmarker} I don't remember , Mister Lan- Doctor Landry ?Grad G: Landay . James .Postdoc H: La - Landay ? So he has , um , these , uh , um , tsk{comment} note - taking things ,Professor A: Mm - hmm .Postdoc H: then that would sort of be asummary which you wouldn't have to solicit . y if {disfmarker} if we were able to {disfmarker} to do that.Professor A: Well , if {disfmarker} if you actually take notes as a summary as opposed to n take notes inthe sense of taking advantage of the time - stamps . So action item or uh , reminder to send this to so -and - so , blah - blah - blah .Postdoc H: Mm - hmm .Professor A: So that wouldn't be a summary . Thatwould just be {disfmarker} that would b relate to the query side .Grad G: But if we had the CrossPads ,we could ask people , you know , if {disfmarker} if something comes up {vocalsound} write it down andmark it {vocalsound} {pause} somehow ,Postdoc H: Mm - hmm .PhD E: Right . I mean , we{disfmarker} because you 'd have several people with these pads , you could collect different things"} {"doc_id":"doc_176","qid":"","text":"Grad G: Time .Grad C: Thanks .Grad G: Are you Fey ?Undergrad D: I am Fey , yeah .Grad G: Oh .Grad B:What day is today ?Undergrad D: Hi .Grad G: Hi . I think we 've met before , like , I remember talking toyou about Aspect or something like that at some point or other .Undergrad D: A couple times yeah .GradF: It 's the uh twenty {disfmarker} nineteenth .Grad B: Nineteenth ?Undergrad D: That 's right , yeah.Grad G: So .Undergrad D: And you were my GSI briefly , until I dropped the class .Grad F: Grad B: Right, right .Grad G: Oh that 's right .Undergrad D: But .Grad G: Well .Grad C: OK , wh whGrad G: No offense.Grad C: Yeah .Grad G: Like .Grad C: OK . Some in some introductions are in order .Grad G: Oh , OKsorry .Grad C: OK .Grad G: Getting ahead of myself .Grad C: So . Um . For those who don't know{disfmarker} Everyone knows me , this is great . Um , apart from that , sort of the old gang , Johno andBhaskara have been with us from {disfmarker} from day oneGrad G: Yay !Grad E: Hi .Grad C: and umthey 're engaged in {disfmarker} in various activities , some of which you will hear about today . Ami isum our counselor and spiritual guidance and um also interested in problems concerning reference of themore complex type ,PhD A: Well .Grad E: Oh wow .Grad C: and um he sits in as a interested participantand helper . Is that a good characterization ?PhD A: u That 's pretty good , I think .Grad C: I don't know.PhD A: Yeah . Thanks .Grad C: OK . Keith is not technically one of us yet ,Grad E: Not yet .Grad C: ha -ha . but um it 's too late for him now .Grad G: \" One of us . \"Grad C: So .Grad E: Yeah right . I 've got theheadset on after all .Grad C: Um . Officially I guess he will be joining us in the summer .Grad E: yes.Grad C: And um hopefully it is by {disfmarker} by means of Keith that we will be able to get a b a betterformal and a better semantic um idea of what a construction is and um how we can make it work for us .Additionally his interest um surpasses um English because it also entails German , an extra capability ofspeaking and writing and understanding and reading that language . And um , is there anyone whodoesn't know Nancy ? Do you {disfmarker} do you know Nancy ?Grad G: Me ?Grad E: I know Nancy.Grad G: Mm - hmm .Grad B: I made that joke already , Nancy , sadly .Grad C: OK .Grad G: What ?GradB: The \" I don't know myself \" joke .Grad G: You did ? When ?Grad B: Uh before you came in .Grad G: Oh.Grad E: Man !Grad G: About me or you ?Grad B: About me .Grad G: OK . {vocalsound} OK .PhD A: Youcould do it about you .Grad B: Yeah .Grad G: Well I didn't know . I didn't mean to be humor copying , butOK , sorry . Yes , I know myself . It 's OK .Grad C: OK .Grad G: It 's a {disfmarker}Grad C: And um Feyis with us as of six days ago officially ?Undergrad D: Officially ,Grad C: Officially ,Undergrad D: yeah.Grad C: but in reality already um much much longer and um um next to some {disfmarker} some moreor less bureaucratic uh stuff with the {disfmarker} the data collection she 's also the wizard in the datacollection Um ,Grad G: Of Oz .Undergrad D: It 's very exciting .Grad C: we 're sticking with the term \"wizard \" ,Undergrad D: Yes .Grad C: OK .Undergrad D: Yes .Grad C: and umGrad G: Not witch - like.Grad B: Wizardette .Grad E: Wizard .Grad F: Wizardess .Grad C: Sorceress , I think .Grad G: OK.Undergrad D: Wizard .Grad C: wizard uh by by popular voteGrad G: OK .Grad C: umGrad G: Didn't takea vote ? OK .Grad C: OK , um , why don't we get started on that subject anyways . Um , so we 're aboutto collect data and um the uh s the following things have happened since we last met . When will wethree meet again ? And umGrad G: More than three of us .Grad C: what happened is that um , \" A \" ,{comment} there was some confusion between you and Jerry with the {disfmarker} that leading to yourtalking to Catherine Snow , and he was uh he {disfmarker} he agreed completely that some somethingconfusing happened . Um his idea was to get sort of the l the lists of mayors of the department , thestudents . It {disfmarker} it 's exactly how you interpreted it , sort of sGrad E: The list of majors in thedepartment ?Undergrad D: M m Majors ?Grad C: Ma - majors , majors .Undergrad D: Majors ?Grad C: \"Mayors \" .Undergrad D: OK , mayor {disfmarker}Grad C: Majors .Undergrad D: Something I don't knowabout theseGrad G: The department has many mayors .Grad C: Majors and um just sending the{disfmarker} the little write - up that we did on to those email listsUndergrad D: OK . OK . Yeah , yeah ,yeah . But {disfmarker} Yeah .Grad C: uh {disfmarker}Undergrad D: So it was really Carol Snow whowas confused , not me and not Jerry .Grad C: Yep , yep , yep . OK . So . So , that is uh{disfmarker}Undergrad D: That 's good . So I should still do that .Grad C: Yep .Undergrad D: OK .Grad"} {"doc_id":"doc_177","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: Good .Industrial Designer: Beep . {vocalsound} {vocalsound} Oh .Project Manager: Sowell uhUser Interface: What ?Project Manager: welcome everyone .User Interface: Yeah .ProjectManager: Um as you may have noticed I uhUser Interface: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer:{vocalsound}Project Manager: created separate folders because it was uh tending to get a little busy inour uh shared project documents uh folder .User Interface: Yeah .Project Manager: I don't know ifeverybody uh put their own uh documents in the right folder , which is for now the detailed designmeeting .Marketing: That's new one ?Project Manager: Yeah .User Interface: We didn't make any uh{disfmarker}Industrial Designer: Uh , we should save that one . {vocalsound}User Interface: Oh in{disfmarker}Project Manager: Then I'll move this one .User Interface: Didn't we just do that ?IndustrialDesigner: Yeah , save in the folder . Save as project .User Interface: Oh .Project Manager: Oh no , this isjust one big document , so you can leave that wherever it is .Industrial Designer: Oh , okay .ProjectManager: {vocalsound} And we have a evaluation left here .User Interface: {vocalsound}IndustrialDesigner: Hmm hmm .Project Manager: Okay .Industrial Designer: Agenda .Project Manager: Well notmain documents this time . Oh uh yes .User Interface: Hmm ?Project Manager: I have it open myself Iguess . Um well the detailed design meeting {disfmarker} Huh ? We're finally getting somewherehopefully .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}User Interface: {vocalsound}Project Manager: Um what arewe going to do ? I've opened it already . Um I'm still going to take some minutes , and if I'm right , youtwo are going to give a prototype presentation ?Industrial Designer: Oh , sorry .Marketing:{vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {gap}Project Manager: Aren't you ?User Interface: We could .{vocalsound}Project Manager: Yes , you are .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}ProjectManager: And uh m did you do something with evaluation criteria ?Marketing: Yep . Yep .ProjectManager: Good . And we have a correct agenda . And uh then we have to look at something which is lessnice , the finance uh aspect , whether we can afford what we have designed ,User Interface: Oops .{vocalsound}Project Manager: and if we can we can uh commence the final part which is the productionor project evaluation , how did we work together and what are the results , and how happy are we withthose . Okay , well finance uh will be later . Now I'd like to give the word to you two .User Interface: Yeah.Industrial Designer: Okay .User Interface: {vocalsound} Well uhIndustrial Designer: Get up stand up .{gap} just {disfmarker}User Interface: we made a prototype .Industrial Designer: 'Kay .User Interface:We first start with the overall uh {disfmarker} This is about the total remote control .Industrial Designer:View .User Interface: We made it green .Industrial Designer: Just example colour ,User Interface: Yeah.Industrial Designer: so uh there's one of the colours we would like to uh see in our prototype .UserInterface: It's a fresh colour . And uh the screen light blue . Oh uh this the scroll button and themicrophone on the on the sides here under . And the R_ and R_ logo , it just says R_ and R_ now , but uh{disfmarker}Industrial Designer: Okay ?User Interface: Any questions so far ? {vocalsound}Marketing:Big microphone .Industrial Designer: {gap} yeah ,User Interface: Yeah .Industrial Designer: just uh justan idea about how to m th that could also be possible .Marketing: Oh okay . That's the place where it'sgoing to be , not the size . {gap}User Interface: Yeah .Industrial Designer: Uh well , it's an idea in a{disfmarker} so .User Interface: Oh y you {disfmarker} perhaps you should make it a bit big , so peopleknow it's there and uh {disfmarker}Industrial Designer: Do not forget it .User Interface: Uh{disfmarker}Marketing: Mm-hmm .Industrial Designer: To function it it doesn't really have to be sm uhbig of course .User Interface: Hmm .Marketing: Yeah , okay . Of course .Industrial Designer: Themicrophone could be just a minor uh hole uh on the left uh button .Marketing: Mm . Mm , th yeah.Industrial Designer: Okay umMarketing: Small .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} we also made someuh ideas about how uh the options menu would work . Uh using the scroll button on sides uh y uh I uhum {gap} {disfmarker}User Interface: You push the scroll buttonIndustrial Designer: Yeah , you pushthe scroll buttonUser Interface: and it's claps out if there's a {disfmarker} {vocalsound}IndustrialDesigner: and a drop down menu or a pull out menu comes out and uh you get uh you get the options uhbecoming available . For example uh T_V_ settings , uh remote settings , et cetera .User Interface:"} {"doc_id":"doc_178","qid":"","text":"Lynne Neagle AM: Okay. Good morning, everyone. Welcome to the Children, Young People and EducationCommittee. We've received apologies for absence from Janet Finch-Saunders, and also from DawnBowden, and I'd like to welcome Huw Irranca-Davies, who is substituting for Dawn Bowden. Can I askMembers if there are any declarations of interest, please? No. Okay. We'll move on, then, to our evidencesession for our inquiry on school improvement and raising standards. I'd like to welcome Kirsty WilliamsAM, Minister for Education, and Steve Davies, director of education. Thank you both for attending and foryour detailed paper in advance of the meeting. We've got a lot of ground to cover, so we'll go straightinto questions, if that's okay. If I can just start by asking you: to what extent is the Organisation forEconomic Co-operation and Development still involved in the Welsh Government's school improvementjourney?Kirsty Williams AM: First of all, can I thank the committee for their invitation this morning, andtheir interest in this particular area? As you will be aware, on coming into office, the director and I agreedto ask the OECD to do a rapid review of the state of Welsh education at the beginning of this Assemblyterm. They did that, and the feedback from that work informed the publication and content of thenational mission. I was very clear in the national mission that I would invite the OECD back to review ourprogress against that mission, and that has happened in the tail end of last year, and the OECD willpublish their latest report on Welsh education next month now, in March. So, the expectation is that thereport will be published on 23 March, and my intention is to make a statement to the Chamber on 24March. The nature of that review is part of our ongoing development of self-evaluation. So, we talk a lotabout self-evaluation in the school system. Actually, the continuing relationship with OECD is aboutself-evaluation of the entirety of the system and Welsh Government. We don't want to accept our ownorthodoxy and just be in a bubble where we are constantly listening to ourselves and those people whomight want to agree with us or tell us what we want to hear. So, the OECD is our best attempt of havingsome external verification of where we are. That's a risk for Ministers and for Government, because wewant them to give an honest evaluation of where we are, but that's a really important tool for me, toensure that we're constantly testing ourselves. The nature of that review is that the OECD were able totalk to whoever they felt it was important to talk to, so that included practitioners on the ground,elements of the middle tier, as well as Welsh Government. And I know, Chair—I hope you'll be pleased tohear this—that the reports of this committee have formed parts of their review, looking at how theSenedd itself has contributed to and has held the Government to account. So, as I said, we expect ourreport to be published towards the end of March.Lynne Neagle AM: Okay, thank you, Minister. Can I askabout the powers under the School Standards and Organisation (Wales) Act 2013, to ask you to tell usabout the use of those powers either by Welsh Government or by local authorities, and how effective youfeel that legislation has been?Kirsty Williams AM: Okay. Well, as you'll be aware, local authorities havequite extensive powers of intervention in schools if they feel that is necessary. If I'm honest, I thinkthere's a mixed picture, with some local authorities using those powers not on a regular basis, butobviously demonstrating a willingness to use those powers. There are other local authorities who don'tseem to have used them. Since that legislation came into being, there have been a number of reasons,because of course a local authority has to give a reason for using those powers of intervention. Theyusually focus on standards, but sometimes they focus on a breakdown in governance arrangements,perhaps, or a failure or a breakdown in financial management. So, sometimes the budgetary issuestrigger an intervention power. And the types of interventions that have been used have included, in somecases, appointing additional governors to governing bodies, or suspending a school's delegated budget sothe local authority takes on, then, financial control of that particular school, or sometimes applying to theWelsh Government to entirely replace a governing body and establish an intervention board. So, if I cangive you an example of where that's been used and has been successful, in Flintshire. They applied toWelsh Government for two interim executive boards, in Sir Richard Gwyn Catholic High School and inYsgol Trefonnen. They applied to us. Those governing bodies were dissolved. The IEBs were put in placeand both of those schools, which had been in special measures, moved quite rapidly, actually, out of"} {"doc_id":"doc_179","qid":"","text":"User Interface: {gap}Project Manager: {vocalsound}User Interface: {vocalsound} How do you wear thisthing ?Project Manager: Hmm . Mm mm mm . {vocalsound}User Interface: Not too many cables andstuff .Marketing: {gap}User Interface: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound}UserInterface: {vocalsound} Original . {vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound} Is recorded ? Okay ?Okay so welcome everyone . So we are here for the kickoff meeting of uh the process of designing a newremote control . So I will first start with a warm welcome opening {vocalsound} stuff ,User Interface:{vocalsound}Project Manager: then uh we will uh see what will be uh our product and what will be thedifferent step we will have to design it . And uh then we will uh discuss if we have few ideas and we willuh end uh by uh dispatching the different task you will be {disfmarker} you will have to fulfil to completethis process . So {disfmarker}User Interface: Uh . Just one thing . Uh , you said twenty-five minutes ,but I have something else to do uh , so gotta have another meeting uh soon ,Project Manager:{vocalsound}User Interface: so maybe you could hurry up a bit {disfmarker}Project Manager:{vocalsound} sorry ?User Interface: It's true . I have another meeting so if you could uh{disfmarker}Project Manager: You have another meeting soon ?User Interface: Yeah .Project Manager:So you have to be quick .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}User Interface: Yeah , for the lawnmowerproject .Project Manager: Okay .User Interface: Okay .Project Manager: So the the goal is to have aremote control so to have an advantage over our competitors we have to be original , we have to betrendy and we have to also try to be user-friendly .User Interface: {vocalsound}Project Manager: So uhthe design step will be divided in three uh main points . First it will be the functional design . Third is theconceptual design and then is the desired design . So the functional design is to identify the main userneeds , the technical function the remote control should fulfil . And then we will move to f conceptualdesign where we'll specify the different component involved , what kind of user interf interface we wantand what are the different uh trend in user interface and stuff like that .Industrial Designer:{vocalsound}Project Manager: And then the desired devi design will consist in uh specificallyimplementing {vocalsound} and detailing the choice we've uh made in the second point . So I will nowask you which is very important for the design of a new remote control for to uh each of us to to draw uhyour favourite animal on the white board .User Interface: {vocalsound} What an original idea .ProjectManager: {vocalsound} Do you have any idea of which animal you want to show us ? {vocalsound}UserInterface: Orangutan .Project Manager: Okay {vocalsound} that's good .Industrial Designer:{vocalsound}User Interface: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: No no nProject Manager: {vocalsound} nn {gap}User Interface: Can I give you theProject Manager: You should {disfmarker}User Interface:{disfmarker} no ? But I don't have to say anything . When I'm drawing the orangutan .Project Manager:{vocalsound} {vocalsound} If you want to react uh about this wonderful drawing uh {vocalsound} I'll letyou uh comment .User Interface: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}Industrial Designer:{vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound}User Interface: It's an abstract drawing of an orangutan .ProjectManager: Okay it's an abstract drawing .User Interface: Yes .Project Manager: I think it's nice andoriginal . {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} You should write y the name I think .{vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound}User Interface: I don't have a red colour . Usually orangutans havered hair so this is a very important but I don't have red pen , so {disfmarker}Project Manager: Okay.User Interface: {vocalsound} Yes .Project Manager: You want to draw something Christine ?{vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}User Interface: {vocalsound}Marketing: Okay uhsorry . You have to imagine a little bit {vocalsound} um .Project Manager: {vocalsound}Marketing: This{disfmarker}Project Manager: Of course your animal is recorded so it's not lost . {vocalsound}Marketing:{vocalsound} Sorry too {vocalsound} uh .User Interface: Yes . I know .Project Manager:{vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound}User Interface: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer:{vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound}User Interface: {vocalsound}Project Manager: Is this uh{disfmarker}User Interface: Wha what is this strange beast ?Marketing: Is it beautiful ?{vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}User Interface: Is it a"} {"doc_id":"doc_180","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: Uh , making a profit of fifty million Euros . {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Alright sotwenty five .User Interface: Mm 'kay .Project Manager: So , it's go gonna have to be be pretty damntrendy . {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: So yeah , I've {disfmarker} The only the only remote controlsI've used usually come with the television , and they're fairly basic .Project Manager: Yeah . Yeah .UserInterface: Mm-hmm .Industrial Designer: So uh {disfmarker} {vocalsound}Project Manager: Yeah , Iwas thinking that as well , I think the the only ones that I've seen that you buy are the sort of one for alltype things where they're ,User Interface: Yeah the universal ones . Yeah .Industrial Designer: Mm.Project Manager: yeah . So presumably that might be an idea to put into .Industrial Designer: But but tosell it for twenty five you need a lot of neat features . For sure .Marketing: Slim .Project Manager: Yeah ,yeah .User Interface: Yeah .Project Manager: Uh 'cause I mean , what {disfmarker} uh twenty five Euros, that's about I dunno , fifteen Pounds or so ? And that's quite a lot for a remote control .User Interface:Mm-hmm , it's about that .Industrial Designer: Yeah , yeah .User Interface: Mm .Marketing:{vocalsound}User Interface: Um well my first thoughts would be most remote controls are grey or black .As you said they come with the T_V_ so it's normally just your basic grey black remote control {gap}functions ,Project Manager: Uh-huh .User Interface: so maybe we could think about colour ?ProjectManager: Mm-hmm .User Interface: Make {disfmarker} that might make it a bit different from the rest atleast . Um , and as you say , we need to have some kind of gimmick , so um I thought maybe somethinglike if you lose it and you can whistle ,Project Manager: Okay . {vocalsound} The the keyrings , yeahyeah .User Interface: you know those things ? Because we always lose our remote control .IndustrialDesigner: Right .Marketing: {vocalsound} Uh yeah uh ,Project Manager: Okay , that's cool .Marketing:being as a Marketing Exper Expert I will like to say like before deciding the cost of this remote control orany other things we must see the market potential for this product like what is the competition in themarket ? What are the available prices of the other remote controls in the prices ?Project Manager: {gap}Okay .Marketing: What speciality other remote controls are having and how complicated it is to use theseremote controls as compared to other remote controls available in the market . So before deciding orbefore finalising this project , we must discuss all these things , like {disfmarker}User Interface: Okay.Marketing: and apart from this , it should be having a good look also , because people really li uh like toplay with it when they are watching movies or playing with {gap} or playing with their C_D_ player ,M_P_ three player like any electronic devices .User Interface: Mm . Mm-hmm .Marketing: They reallywant to have something good , having a good design in their hands ,Project Manager: {gap}UserInterface: Mm-hmm . Yeah .Project Manager: Okay .Marketing: so , yes ,Project Manager: 'Kay.Marketing: all this .Industrial Designer: Uh , what do we think a {disfmarker}Project Manager: So ,we're looking for {disfmarker} {gap} 'Kay .Industrial Designer: What do we think a good size would befor this ? {gap}Project Manager: We're {disfmarker}Marketing: {gap}Industrial Designer: 'Cause I Iknow as you add more buttons to the remote it sometimes gets so big and clunkyProject Manager: Sorry, carry on . {vocalsound}User Interface: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: and there's just like a hundredbuttons on it ,Project Manager: Mm-hmm .User Interface: Yeah .Industrial Designer: or you could have areally small slim one but then you could lose it easily . {vocalsound}Project Manager: Mm-hmm .UserInterface: Yeah . Then you lose it , yeah . {vocalsound}Project Manager: Okay .User Interface: Kind ofum , maybe more like a P_D_A_ kind of , just hand held , like ,Project Manager: For for uhUser Interface:'cause {disfmarker}Project Manager: remember we're trying to make it for twelve Euros fifty .{vocalsound}User Interface: Yeah . No , I wasn't , no sorry I wasn't thinking of the screen of like aP_D_A_Project Manager: Okay well right we'll have to um {disfmarker} I'll {disfmarker}User Interface:butProject Manager: we're k having another meeting in half an hour so umUser Interface: Okay .ProjectManager: we should all look into a bit uh , oh actually , no , we'll allocate . So you do the looking aroundat other remote controls .Marketing: Yeah .Project Manager: Um , if you could maybe come up with sortof shapes and suggested shades or whatever , and you could look into um {vocalsound} basically howhow it's made I_E_ like how you make it all in one , how {disfmarker} what sort of materials are"} {"doc_id":"doc_181","qid":"","text":"The Chair (Hon. Anthony Rota (NipissingTimiskaming, Lib.)): I call this meeting to order. Welcome to the23rd meeting of the House of Commons Special Committee on the COVID-19 Pandemic. A reminder toall members that in order to avoid issues with sound, members participating in person should not also beconnected to the video conference. For those of you who are joining via video conference, I will remindyou that when speaking you should be on the same channel as the language you are speaking, andplease use your headsets. As usual, please direct your remarks through the chair. As I understand, thereare no ministerial announcements today. We will now proceed to presenting petitions. I remind membersthat any petition presented during a meeting of this special committee must have already been certifiedby the clerk of petitions. For members participating in person, I ask that they please come and drop theirsigned certificates off at the table once the petition is presented. I would ask members to be very briefand concise, and to summarize the exact content of the petition. We will continue. The first personpresenting a petition today is Ms. May.Ms. Elizabeth May (SaanichGulf Islands, GP): Thank you, Mr.Chair. I present two petitions this morning. The residents of SaanichGulf Islands are calling on thegovernment to simplify the process for protection of marine protected areas. It's a multi-layeredcommunication process. The marine protected area first proposed in the 1970s for the southern Strait ofGeorgia, now called the Salish Sea, has been awaiting designation for so long that it was originallyendorsed by Jacques Cousteau. That gives us a sense for why petitioners are calling for a simplified andmore rapid process. The second petition is from petitioners who are very concerned about our obligationsunder the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples and our commitments underthe Truth and Reconciliation Commission calls to action. They specifically reference the RCMP violation ofUNDRIP in its actions on Wet'suwet'en territory and ask the government to commit to actually living theprinciples embodied in UNDRIP.The Chair: We will now go to Mr. Hardie.Mr. Ken Hardie (FleetwoodPortKells, Lib.): Thank you, Mr. Chair. I am presenting a petition on behalf of the one in a million Canadianswho suffer severe and adverse effects from vaccinations. GuillainBarre syndrome is very debilitating, andthis petition seeks the setting up of a no-fault accident or compensation system to help offset the loss ofwork, the loss of wages and the loss of quality of life that many of these people suffer. I'm pleased topresent this petition pursuant to Standing Order 36.The Chair: Mr.Trudel, you have the floor.Mr. DenisTrudel (LongueuilSaint-Hubert, BQ): Mr.Chair, culture is the soul of a people. Over the past 20years orso, culture, especially music, has never been as accessible as it is now. Paradoxically, creators' incomeshave never been so low. The advent of digital technology has completely overturned the system fordistributing the wealth generated by creators for the benefit of various Web stakeholders, many of whomare billionaires. This petition addresses these problems and proposes realistic solutions. The first is to seta minimum royalty model for streaming platforms for artists. The second is to update the existing privatecopying system. The third is for Internet and cell phone providers who sell their services as direct accessto culture to share their profits with artists. The fourth is that the GAFAMs have to pay taxes on theirservices. Six thousand people have already signed the first version of this petition, launched last monthby musician JordanOfficer and supported by singer BarbaraSecours. As an artist, I am proud to presentthis petition today because the issues it raises are fundamental to the survival of Quebec culture.TheChair: We'll now continue with Mr. Genuis.Mr. Garnett Genuis (Sherwood ParkFort Saskatchewan, CPC):Thank you very much, Mr. Chair. I have four petitions to present today. I will be as brief as yousuggested, although I will observe that if some members are going on longer during petitions than theynormally do, it might be because the government has taken away so many of the tools that oppositionmembers normally have for raising important issues in the House. The first petition deals with the issueof euthanasia and long-term care. The petitioners are concerned that instead of focusing on improvingmedically assisted life, something that we know is a major issue in light of recent revelations, thegovernment has put so much time and legislative energy into efforts to continually further expandeuthanasia in Canada and remove vital safeguards. The second petition speaks to the ongoingconversations happening in Canada around systemic discrimination and systemic racism. I think we do"} {"doc_id":"doc_182","qid":"","text":"Marketing: Great man . Who starts ?Project Manager: Well I'll uh start just with another presentation , sothen we can uh look at th at the agenda uh for this meeting .Marketing: Alright , great . Alright .ProjectManager: {vocalsound} Okay . I've put some uh new things in the in the map .Marketing: Mm-hmm.Project Manager: Uh oh . {vocalsound} This is it . I don't know the shortcut , so {disfmarker} Ah F_ five. Well our functional design meeting , that's the stage we're in .Industrial Designer: Mm .ProjectManager: And you also ha all three of you have uh prepared something about it .Marketing: Yes .ProjectManager: Well um in we'll uh just have a look at the at the notes from the previous meeting , what we uhthought we had dec decided . But uh {disfmarker} Uh then we'll uh look at uh the three uh presentationsuh from you . I think you have prepared uh all three uh ? {vocalsound}Marketing: 'Kay .IndustrialDesigner: Well , yeah .Marketing: Yeah .Project Manager: Um we'll look at th the new projectrequirements we uh {disfmarker} I dunno . Y you also have uh received that mail , the new projectrequirements from our bosses ?Industrial Designer: No . {vocalsound}Project Manager: Oh I've receiveda mail with uh some additional requirements ,Marketing: No . You're the only one . {vocalsound}ProjectManager: and I'll have a look if {disfmarker}Industrial Designer: Oh .Marketing: Alright .ProjectManager: Well I think we should show them before your presentations , because it's not really uh smartuh to uh to include some things uh we can't , because of the new requirements . Well um then we canmake some decisions about our remote control functions .Marketing: 'Kay .Project Manager: We have todeb we have to decide it in this meeting what our function will be . And then uh we can discuss uh somemore closely . Uh {disfmarker}Industrial Designer: We have forty minutes for this uh discussion ?ProjectManager: Uh yeah , I think so . {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Alright .Project Manager: Well uh{gap} the closing uh we'll not uh look at it yet .User Interface: {vocalsound}Marketing: Alright .ProjectManager: Um {vocalsound} now I'll look at {gap} show {gap} this board . Um {disfmarker} Well uhnotes , first meeting . Now . I gave a disc a a presentation . Uh we familiarised ourself with the boardsand then we discussed some first ideas . So we said that uh we have to merge the strong points from ouruh competitors , and uh look at their uh remote controls .Marketing: Right .Project Manager: We shouldmake it uh compatible with our new D_V_D_ and other releases we have , our technical releases.Industrial Designer: Huh ?Project Manager: Uh not too many one buttons . One recognisable button inthe middle , where you do the most important functions with . And um well they can have two functions ,because uh you have a D_V_D_ and a television .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yeah .ProjectManager: Um the design has to fit the hand , be original , but also be familiar . {vocalsound} It's uh oneof our ideas .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager:{vocalsound} Yeah well that wa It's just thirty minutes ago ,User Interface: {vocalsound}ProjectManager: so it's not quite uh {disfmarker} {vocalsound} But well I have to do it .Industrial Designer:Mm-hmm , now it's right .Marketing: {vocalsound} Yeah .Project Manager: The materials uh well shouldbe hard plastic with rubber from {gap} , and uh well the labelling of the buttons should be indestructible .It should be uh recognisable at all times .User Interface: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: It's meant tobe easily wiped out , yeah . {vocalsound}Project Manager: Yes .User Interface: Mm .Marketing: Okay.Project Manager: Well fronts were to be {gap} just like mobile telephones . And uh the technical aspectsum {disfmarker} And also labelling of the buttons , the functions should be universal standards . Wellthat's just uh some ideas from the first meeting . It's quite logical al all of it .Industrial Designer:Mm-hmm .Project Manager: Um now the new project requirements , I'll just show them . I got this mailfrom uh our bosses . Well , teletext goes out . We will not use teletext .User Interface: Oh .Marketing:Okay .Project Manager: Maybe a new sort of thing , but n but not teletext .Industrial Designer: I Idisagree , but uh it's not uh t it's not my place to disagree I guess .Project Manager: Well {disfmarker}the second is a bit sh pity because we just said we wanted to d include the D_V_D_User Interface: Oh.Project Manager: and they don't want it , because of our time we have for this project .Marketing: Alright.Industrial Designer: Oh , alright .User Interface: Oh , that's a shame .Project Manager: So that's ashame , because uh especially for the third requirement we want to reach people under the thirty years ."} {"doc_id":"doc_183","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: So uh good morning .User Interface: Morning .Marketing: Morning .Project Manager: Isee you all find your places .Industrial Designer: Morning .Project Manager: Is everybody sitting on theright place ? Yeah ?Marketing: Yep .Project Manager: I guess so . So {disfmarker} Let's see . First I willintroduce myself . I don't know if uh {disfmarker} if everybody knows me , so I'm Bart ,Marketing: Myname's Frank .Project Manager: hello . Hello .User Interface: I'm {gap} .Project Manager: Bart . Hello .Hello . Bart .Industrial Designer: {gap}Project Manager: Welcome .Marketing: Thank you .ProjectManager: Uh let's see . Uh let's start off um with a little presentation . Uh Now first I'll tell you a little bitabout the setting . You can see there are a few cameras here . They'll record uh our actions and you'llhave wires and microphones that will record your voice . Uh there are also some microphones there butth um you don't have to pay a lot of attention on those , because it will uh disappear when you don'tattend to it . So is there a project documents folder ? There are some notes in it already I see , somedocuments . Uh I'll start with the presentation kick off . Is being modified by the administrator . Uh okay{vocalsound} .User Interface: {vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound} Hmm , that's interesting .ProjectManager: Let's do it read only . Well I don't know if you've noticed , but uh we're working for RealReaction . Uh it's a company in uh electronics . We put fashion in electronics , uh we make it work , uh weput a lot of effort in design and in the product itself . I'm Bart {gap} the project manager so I'll direct youthrough the project . This is our agenda . {vocalsound} Uh we have our opening acquaintance , tooltraining , project plan description closing .Marketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager: Uh maybe I can sitdown , then I can take some notes or {disfmarker} Let's see . Maybe you can take the minutes once in awhile .Marketing: Sure .Project Manager: I dunno it's not a lot of work , but just uh if you hear somethinguh you can write down , just write it down . Uh as you can see uh it's the opening , aquaintance tooltraining . Aquaintance is a point we've done a bit . Um have you all seen the corporate website already ?Yeah .User Interface: Yep .Marketing: Yep . Visit it .Project Manager: Have you seen any flaws in it ? Ithink I found one . {vocalsound} No ?User Interface: Hmm ?Marketing: Can't say I paid much attentionto it ,Project Manager: I can see if it works this way . No , it doesn't work here .Industrial Designer:{vocalsound}User Interface: {vocalsound}Project Manager: Okay no problem . But um on the corporateinformation side there's a th uh {disfmarker} there was Real Remote instead of Real Reaction .Marketing:Oh yeah .Project Manager: Real Remote is not really the company we're {disfmarker} we are , but it'sjust a little {gap} fault .User Interface: Okay . Yeah .Project Manager: Um okay , what are we going to do? {vocalsound} Uh our project aim is as you can see a new remote control . It has to be original , trendy ,and user friendly . So these are uh the points why uh we also hired you . {vocalsound} We've got theMarketing Expert for uh the trendy and user friendly look .Marketing: Okay .Project Manager: AndIndustrial Designer uh there's also user friendly and a bit original . {vocalsound} And we've got our UserInterface Designer .User Interface: Yep .Project Manager: He's also uh {disfmarker} That's about thenew remote control . Uh project method um is uh there are three phases we are going through . First isfunctional des uh design , individual work , meetings . After the functional design , then the conceptualdesign and the detailed design . {vocalsound} I had some role indications on here . But I think you knowit already by yourself . The Industrial Designer is going to work on the working design , uh componentsdesign and a bit of the look and feel design . Uh the User Interface Designer is going to do the technicalfunction design , user interface concept and user interface design . {vocalsound} And the marketingexpert is doing a little bit of user requirement specification , trend watching and project {disfmarker} uhproduct ev evaluation . So that's a bit what you're going to do . But that will be all worked out in uh othermeetings .Marketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager: Then we've got our first tool training . {vocalsound}We are going to work with a lot of high-tech tools here , so it's ab it's handy if we have a little bit oftraining first . As you can see we've got the smart boards here and here in the white board . Um in thewhite board here there's a little tool bar on this side . Here are some functions . You can save . N uhthese functions we don't have anything to do with , only undo , you can undo a little uh piece of drawing .A blank new document for each person . Uh select a pen , eraser . Capture we don't have to do anything"} {"doc_id":"doc_184","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: {vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager: Okay . Good afternoon again.User Interface: {vocalsound}Project Manager: So we should have our final meeting about the detaildesigned of {disfmarker} detail design of the product of the remote control . Um {vocalsound} So here isthe agenda for today . Uh uh just going to go quickly through the minutes of the last last uh meeting thenwe have a p presentation of prototype of you two , sounds interesting . And we'll have um {vocalsound}presentation of evaluation crit criteria by ou our Marketing Experts . Then we'll have to go throughfinance evaluation of the of the cost of the thing and um hopefully uh we should fit the target o tw oftwelve point five uh uh Euro . {vocalsound} Okay . So let's go . Uh if I go quickly through the minutes ofthe last meeting . {vocalsound} So we went through th uh w we took this following decisions . NoL_C_D_ , no speech recognition technology , okay , we went through a b to a banana look and feel for theremote control . We went through the use of wheels and but buttons . {vocalsound} And also the use of abasis station for battery ch charging and uh also to um call the to call the mot mote remote control whenit is lost . Okay . Um . Good . So guys let {gap} this uh wonderful thing .Industrial Designer: Okay so wecan go to the slides .Project Manager: {vocalsound} Oh yeah . Sorry . Um .Industrial Designer: Yeah .Number three . Oh number two sorry .Project Manager: Which is {gap} {disfmarker}Industrial Designer:So final design . Final design . Okay so Michael you can go ahead .User Interface: Yeah so uh followingour decision to uh make a yellow {disfmarker} well to make a bananaProject Manager: Yeah can youshow it to the the camera maybe .User Interface: remote {disfmarker} okay so we actually have a{disfmarker}Industrial Designer: You can pull it out first , maybe .User Interface: We've {disfmarker}well first first of all we made a an attractive {vocalsound} base station uh with a banana leaf uh look andfeel um and uhProject Manager: Mm-hmm . {vocalsound}User Interface: bana sit {disfmarker} thebanana sits in there k you know nicely weighted so that it's not gonna tip over and um this is the remoteitself , it's kind of it's it's ergonomic , it fits in the hand uh rather well . We've got the two uh{vocalsound} uh scroll wheels here which you know one on the the left for the uh volume and the one onthe right for for the channel and uh underneath {vocalsound} we have the uh the turbo button which is inlike a nice uh trigger position for you know for pressing quite naturally .Project Manager: What's the useuh of the t turbo button already ?User Interface: This is when you when you uh are scrolling the uh{disfmarker} through the channels you can tell it to to skip th past channels that you {disfmarker}quickly rather thProject Manager: Ah yeah yeah an then you stop when you stop it stops .User Interface:Yeah . Well when you stop scrolling the wheel it stops . But normally with uh {disfmarker} it will just uh sstay on each station briefly so you can see the the picture .Industrial Designer: Uh {disfmarker}ProjectManager: Uh-huh .Industrial Designer: And we we do have one more functionality . If you take thebanana as such and uh you press the turbo button , so it switch ons the switch ons the T_V_ .UserInterface: The T_V_ yeah .Project Manager: Which one ?User Interface: The s the turbo button .IndustrialDesigner: The turbo button .Project Manager: Okay .User Interface: So rather than having uh an extrabutton for um for the on off switch you just use the turbo button .Industrial Designer: Additional button.Marketing: What this button for ?User Interface: This is a teletext button . So once you press that thenyou get teletextMarketing: Okay .User Interface: and you can use the the channel selector scroll wheel asuh {disfmarker}Project Manager: To navigate it through th through teletext .User Interface: To navigateyeah .Marketing: But if you want to go to page seven hundred ?Industrial Designer: That's right , that'sright .User Interface: Yeah .Project Manager: {gap} with the wheel it's easy .Marketing: How manUserInterface: Well then you can you you have like a little uh number selection thing , you press the {gap}the the teletext button uh to move between uh the fields and then you can just scroll the number backand forth so you have s you go {disfmarker} you scroll to seven and then zero zero and then you can uh{disfmarker}Marketing: I don't understand it . Can you repeat it ? {vocalsound}User Interface:{vocalsound} Well you can you can press press the teletext buttonIndustrial Designer: {vocalsound}UserInterface: and then you then you can you can fIndustrial Designer: So then then both the scroll buttonsthey are for teletext browsing .Marketing: Yeah .Industrial Designer: And you can teleMarketing: Ah okay"} {"doc_id":"doc_185","qid":"","text":"Grad A: Why ?Grad D: Um .Grad E: I 'm known . I {disfmarker}Grad A: No , cuz she already told me it ,before she told you .Grad E: No , she told me a long time ago . She told me {disfmarker} she told me liketwo weeks ago .Grad A: Oh , well , it doesn't matter what time .Grad B: OK . You know how to toggle thedisplay width {pause} function {disfmarker}Grad A: Well maybe she hadn't just started transcribing meyet .Grad D: Wow .Grad A: Anyway .Grad D: What is it ?Grad E: Let me explain something to you .GradD: Um ,Grad E: My laugh is better than yours .Grad D: there .Grad A: I beg to differ .Grad B: Yo .Grad D:Um , OK .Grad A: But you have to say something genuinely funny before you 'll get an example .Grad E:Yeah .Grad D: The thing is I don't know how to get to the next page . Here .Grad E: No . You should be{disfmarker} at least be self - satisfied enough to laugh at your own jokes .Grad D: Actually I thought{disfmarker}Grad A: No , it 's a different laugh .Grad D: There .Grad A: Ooh , wow !Grad D: How weird.Grad E: Oh ! Holy mackerel .Grad A: Wow . Whoa !Grad D: What ? ! Oh . OK . I wasn't even doinganything . {vocalsound} OK .Grad A: Uh .Grad E: Eva 's got a laptop , she 's trying to show it off .GradD: That was r actually Robert 's idea . But anyhow . UmProfessor F: O K . So , here we are .Grad E: Onceagain .Professor F: Once again , right , together . Um , so we haven't had a meeting for a while , and{disfmarker} and probably won't have one next week , I think a number of people are gone . Um , soRobert , why don't you bring us up to date on where we are with EDU ?Grad B: Um , uh in a {disfmarker}in a smaller group we had uh , talked and decided about continuation of the data collection . So Fey 'stime with us is almost officially over , and she brought us some thirty subjects and , t collected the data ,and ten dialogues have been transcribed and can be looked at . If you 're interested in that , talk to me .Um , and we found another uh , cogsci student who 's interested in playing wizard for us . Here we 'regonna make it a little bit more complicated for the subjects , uh this round . She 's actually suggested tolook um , at the psychology department students , because they have to partake in two experiments inorder to fulfill some requirements . So they have to be subjected , {vocalsound} {comment} before theycan actually graduate . And um , we want to design it so that they really have to think about having sometime , two days , for example , to plan certain things and figure out which can be done at what time , and, um , sort of package the whole thing in a {disfmarker} in a re in a few more complicated um , structure. That 's for the data collection . As for SmartKom , I 'm {disfmarker} the last SmartKom meeting Imentioned that we have some problems with the synthesis , which as of this morning should be resolved. And , so ,Professor F: Good .Grad B: \" should be \" means they aren't yet , but {disfmarker} but I think Ihave the info now that I need . Plus , Johno and I are meeting tomorrow , so maybe uh uh , whentomorrow is over , we 're done . And ha n hav we 'll never have to look at it again Maybe it 'll take somemore time , to be realistic , but at least we 're {disfmarker} we 're seeing the end of the tunnel there .That was that . Um , the uh , uh I don't think we need to discuss the formalism that 'll be done officially sonce we 're done . Um , something happened , in {disfmarker} on Eva 's side with the PRM that we 'regonna look at today , and um , we have a visitor from Bruchsal from the International University .Andreas , I think you 've met everyone except Nancy .Grad A: Sorry . Hi . Hi .Grad C: Yeah .Grad B: Hi .Hi .Grad A: So when you said \" Andreas \" I thought you were talking about Stolcke .Grad B: And , um,Grad A: Now I know that we aren't , OK .Grad B: Andy , you actually go by Andy , right ? Oh , OK .GradC: Yeah .Grad B: Eh {disfmarker}Grad C: Cuz there is another Andreas around ,Grad A: Hmm .Grad C:so , to avoid some confusion .Grad B: That will be {pause} Reuter ? Oh , OK .Grad C: Yeah .Grad B: Somy scientific director of the EML is also the dean of the International University , one of his manyoccupations that just contributes to the fact that he is very occupied . And , um , the {disfmarker} um ,he @ @ might tell us a little bit about what he 's actually doing , and why it is s somewhat related , and{disfmarker} by uh using maybe some of the same technologies that we are using . And um . Was thatenough of an update ?Professor F: I think so .Grad B: In what order shall we proceed ?Grad D: OK .GradB: Maybe you have your on - line {disfmarker}Grad D: Uh , yeah , sure . Um , so , I 've be just beenlooking at , um , Ack ! What are you doing ? Yeah . OK . Um , I 've been looking at the PRM stuff . Um ,so , this is , sort of like the latest thing I have on it , and I sorta constructed a couple of classes . Like , a"} {"doc_id":"doc_186","qid":"","text":"Lynne Neagle AM: Good morning, everyone. Welcome to the Children, Young People and EducationCommittee. We've received apologies for absence from Michelle Brown and Jack Sargeant; there are nosubstitutions. Can I ask if Members have any declarations of interest, please? No. Okay. We'll move on,then, to item 2, which is our scrutiny of the 'Healthy Weight: Healthy Wales' draft strategy, and I'm verypleased to welcome Dr Frank Atherton, the Chief Medical Officer for Wales, and Nathan Cook, who is thehead of the healthy and active branch at Welsh Government. Thank you, both, for attending thismorning. We're very much looking forward to hearing what you've got to say. If you're happy, we'll gostraight into questions. If I can just start by asking about the fact that 'Healthy Weight: Healthy Wales' isan all-age strategy, really, and how confident you are that it will deliver for children and young people.DrFrank Atherton: Well, we're very confident. I mean, it has to, quite clearly. We do need to think about thepresent generation, the problems faced by the current generation. We have high prevalence ofoverweight and obesity among adults—we know that, and we can't walk away from that because that'stranslating into demand on health services. But we have to take a focus, a future generation's focus,almost, on the next generation. I don't write off the current generation, we can't afford to do that, but wedo need to think about what can we do that would be different for the next generation so that they don'tget into the sorts of problems that we're currently seeing with overweight and obesity. We know that theconsequences of that for our young people are going to be enormous if we don't do something andsomething quite soon. We know that overweight children go on to become overweight adults,unfortunately, and that brings all the consequences of multiple disease issues—diabetes is oftencited—cancer risk et cetera. So, we have to focus on children, and, in fact, during the consultation, we'vebeen very clear that we need to engage with children and young people as well. Perhaps we'll get intothat at some point, Chair, but, yes, I can give you that assurance.Lynne Neagle AM: Okay, thank you.What my follow-up question, really, is: can you just tell us what kind of engagement you've had withchildren and young people to inform the draft strategy?Dr Frank Atherton: Well, Nathan may be able toinfluence some of the detail, but in broad terms, we have discussed with young people in a number offora. In fact, I was delighted that we had a young person, Evie Morgan, a schoolgirl from mid Wales, whocame to the joint launch on the consultation. She met the Minister there and gave a very good personalaccount of her views on obesity and overweight. We've been visiting a number of schools during theconsultation process. I'm visiting a school, either this week or next week, at Treorchy, to talk withteachers and young people there. Obviously, we're hopeful that schools and young people will contributeto the consultation as well. So, we've had quite good input, I would say, from children and young people.There is always more we can do we and we want to hear those voices.Nathan Cook: I was going to say,we've also had a session with youth ambassadors as well, and what we've actually produced for theconsultation is not just the children and young people's version, but also a toolkit in terms of gettingschools really engaged and involved in terms of the work that we want them to do to feed into this aswell. So, we've already had some really good responses from a lot of youth group and schoolsalready.Lynne Neagle AM: And you've got a structured programme, have you, to roll that out? Okay.Thank you. We've got some questions now on leadership, and the first questions are from SiânGwenllian.Sian Gwenllian AM: Good morning. I'll be speaking in Welsh. The Minister for health saidyesterday, in answering a question from me on the Chamber floor, that you gave him advice not to havea target in terms of reducing obesity among children. Could you confirm that that's what your advice wasand tell us why you don't think that a target is needed?Dr Frank Atherton: My advice was not that wedon't need a target—we may well need a target, and that's one of the issues we need to consult on—butthat the target that had been adopted in England and in Scotland to halve the prevalence of obesity inchildren was more aspirational than deliverable, and that if we are to choose a target in Wales, then weneed to balance deliverability with challenge. We need a challenging environment. So, there is somethingabout performance management, because I would be looking to not just the health system but the healthand care system and to public services boards to think about how they're delivering on this, and I think"} {"doc_id":"doc_187","qid":"","text":"Professor B: OK So uh today we 're looking at a number of uh things we 're trying and uh fortunately forlisteners to this uh we lost some of it 's visual but um got tables in front of us . Um what is {disfmarker}what does combo mean ?PhD C: So combo is um a system where we have these features that go througha network and then this same string of features but low - pass filtered with the low - pass filter used inthe MSG features . And so these low - pass filtered goes through M eh {disfmarker} another MLP andthen the linear output of these two MLP 's are combined just by adding the values and then there is thisKLT . Um the output is used as uh features as well .Professor B: Um so let me try to restate this and seeif I have it right . There is uh {disfmarker} there is the features uh there 's the OGI features and then umthose features um go through a contextual {disfmarker} uh l l let 's take this bottom arr one pointed toby the bottom arrow . Um those features go through a contextualized KLT . Then these features also uhget um low - pass filteredPhD C: Yeah . Yeah so yeah I could perhaps draw this on theblackboardProfessor B: Sure . Yeah . Yeah .PhD C: Yeah .PhD D: The graph , yeah another one .ProfessorB: Yeah , that 's good .PhD C: Professor B: SoPhD C: So we have these features from OGI that goesthrough the three paths .Professor B: Yeah . Three , OK .PhD C: The first is a KLT using several frames ofthe features .Professor B: Yeah . Yeah .PhD C: The second path is uh MLP also using nine frames{disfmarker} several frames of featuresProfessor B: Yeah . Uh - huh .PhD C: The third path is this low -pass filter .Professor B: Uh - huh .PhD C: Uh , MLPProfessor B: Aha ! aha !PhD C: Adding the outputs justlike in the second propose the {disfmarker} the proposal from {disfmarker} for the first evaluation.Professor B: Yeah ? Yeah . Yeah .PhD C: And then the KLT and then the two together again .Professor B:No , the KLT . And those two together . That 's it .PhD D: Two HTK .Professor B: OK so that 's{disfmarker} that 's this bottom one .PhD C: Um . So this is {disfmarker} yeahProfessor B: And so uhand then the {disfmarker} the {disfmarker} the one at the top {disfmarker} and I presume these thingsthat uh are in yellow are in yellow because overall they 're the best ?PhD C: Yeah that 's the reason ,yeah .Professor B: Oh let 's focus on them then so what 's the block diagram for the one above it ?PhD C:For the f the f first yellow line you mean ?Professor B: Yeah .PhD C: Yeah so it 's uh basically s the sameexcept that we don't have this uh low - pass filtering so we have only two streams .PhD D: Step .PhD C:Well . There 's {disfmarker} there 's no low {disfmarker} low - pass processing used as additional featurestream .Professor B: Mm - hmm . Mm - hmm .PhD C: UmProfessor B: Do you e um they mentioned{disfmarker} made some {disfmarker} uh when I was on the phone with Sunil they {disfmarker} theymentioned some weighting scheme that was used to evaluate all of these numbers .PhD C: Yeah . Uhactually the way things seems to um well it 's uh forty percent for TI - digit , sixty for all the SpeechDat -Cars , well all these languages . Ehm the well match is forty , medium thirty five and high mismatchtwenty - five . Yeah .Professor B: Um and we don't have the TI - digits part yet ?PhD C: Uh , no.Professor B: OK .PhD C: But yeah . Generally what you observe with TI - digits is that the result are veryclose whatever the {disfmarker} the system .Professor B: OK . And so have you put all these numberstogether into a single number representing that ?PhD C: Yeah .Professor B: I mean not {disfmarker}PhDC: Uh not yet .Professor B: OK so that should be pretty easy to do and that would be good{disfmarker}PhD C: No . Mmm yeah , yeah .Professor B: then we could compare the two and say whatwas better .PhD C: Mmm . Yeah .Professor B: Um and how does this compare to the numbers{disfmarker} oh so OGI two is just the top {disfmarker} top row ?PhD D: Yeah .PhD C: So yeah to{disfmarker} actually OGI two is the {disfmarker} the baseline with the OGI features but this is notexactly the result that they have because they 've {disfmarker} they 're still made some changes in thefeaturesProfessor B: OK .PhD C: and {disfmarker} well but uh actually our results are better than theirresults . Um I don't know by how much because they did not send us the new resultsProfessor B: OK.PhD C: UhProfessor B: Uh OK so the one {disfmarker} one place where it looks like we 're messingthings up a bit is in the highly mismatched Italian .PhD C: Yeah . Yeah .Professor B: AnPhD C: Yeah thereis something funny happening here because {disfmarker} yeah .Professor B: Yeah .PhD C: But there arethirty - six and then sometimes we are {disfmarker} we are {disfmarker} we are around forty - two"} {"doc_id":"doc_188","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: Okay . Uh good afternoon . This is our third meeting already .Marketing: Goodafternoon .Project Manager: I hope you enjoyed your lunch . {vocalsound} I did anyway . {vocalsound}Um let's see . Presentation three . Okay this is um the second phase uh we're going to discuss today . It'sthe conceptual design meeting . And a few points of interest in this meeting um are the conceptualspecification of components . Uh conceptual specification of design . And also trend-watching . Um theseare hopefully the points you addressed in uh your pre uh presentations you're going to show me in a fewminutes . Um but first I'll show you the agenda . Uh first the opening . Then we have three presentations. Uh after that we have to come to a decision on remote control concepts . How we're going to make it .And then we're closing . We have about forty minutes . Uh so I suggest let's get started . Uh did someoneencounter any problems during the preparation ? No ?User Interface: No .Project Manager: Everythingfine ?Marketing: {gap}Project Manager: That's nice . Then a little uh thing about the last meeting . Uhthese are the points um we agreed on . The requirements and the target market . Uh requirements areuh teletext , docking station , audio signal , small screen , with some extras that uh button information .And we are going to use default materials . Um does somebody have any comments on theserequirements ? Maybe ? No ? These are just the the things we thought of , so maybe if you figuredsomething else or thought of something else , just let me know . And maybe we can uh work it out . Andwe're going to target uh sixty to to eighty year old customers . So now everybody knows what we're dowe're doing , um I suggest let's get started with the presentations . So shall we keep the same uh line-upas uh last time ?Marketing: Sure .Project Manager: Okay .Marketing: I'll start off then .Project Manager:Good luck . {vocalsound}Marketing: Doh . 'Kay I'm uh gonna inform you about the trend-watching I'vedone over the past few days . Um we've done some market research . We distributed some moreenquetes , questionnaires . And um besides that um I deployed some trend-watchers to Milan and Paristo well get all of the newest trends . And I've consulted some additional trend-watch trend-watchers ,after the original trend-watchers return , about what the the best design would be . Um okay these aresome overall findings . Um most important thing is the fancy design . Um the research indicated that thatwas by far the most important factor . Um innovativeness was about half as important as the fancydesign . By innovativeness this means um functions which are not featured in other remote controls . Umabout half of , half as important as the innovativeness was the was easy to use . Um for our um group ,we're focusing on the people of sixty to eighty y years old , this is um , these factors are slightly moreequal . 'Kay these are some more group specific findings . Uh the older people prefer dark colours . Uhthey like recognisable shapes , and familiar material . And our surveys have indicated that especiallywood is pretty much the material for older people . Um this is , this image will give you a little bit of animpression about um the look-and-feel that um the remote should have . Um this leads us to somepersonal preferences . Uh the remote control and the docking station should uh blend in in the in theroom . Um so this would mean no uh eye-catching designs . Just keep it simple and {disfmarker} Wellthe docking station and small screen would be our main points of interest , because this would be the{disfmarker} These would uh be the innovativeness in the remote control . So this would be veryimportant that we {vocalsound} at least include these features . Um well the trend-watchers I consultedadvised that it b should be , the remote control and the docking station should be telephone-shaped . Soyou could imagine that uh the remote control will be standing up straight in the docking station . This isnot really {disfmarker} This is pretty much a new shape to uh older people . So they would prefer uh adesign where the remote control just lies flat in the docking station . So it would be kinda moretelephone-shaped . Um besides that we would advise um to bring two editions , one with a wood-likecolour and maybe feel , and one with a grey-black colour . The wood-like for the more uh exclusivepeople . People with more money . Uh the grey-black colour for well people with less means . That wouldbe all .Project Manager: Okay . Thank you . Any questions about the the trends ?Marketing: Anyquestions ?Project Manager: MaybUser Interface: Mm no .Project Manager: No ? Okay , we go on to thenext one .User Interface: {gap}Project Manager: {vocalsound}User Interface: Um {vocalsound} 'kay um"} {"doc_id":"doc_189","qid":"","text":"PhD A: OK , we 're going .PhD D: Damn .Professor C: And uh Hans - uh , Hans - Guenter will be here ,um , I think by next {disfmarker} next Tuesday or so .PhD B: Oh , OK .PhD D: Mm - hmm .Professor C:So he 's {disfmarker} he 's going to be here for about three weeks ,PhD B: Oh ! That 's nice .PhD A: Justfor a visit ?Professor C: and , uh {disfmarker} Uh , we 'll see .PhD A: Huh .Professor C: We might{disfmarker} might end up with some longer collaboration or something .PhD A: Cool .Professor C: So he's gonna look in on everything we 're doingPhD D: Mm - hmm .Professor C: and give us his {disfmarker}his thoughts . And so it 'll be another {disfmarker} another good person looking at things .PhD B: Oh .Hmm .Grad E: Th - that 's his spectral subtraction group ?Professor C: Yeah ,Grad E: Is that right?Professor C: yeah .Grad E: Oh , OK . So I guess I should probably talk to him a bit too ?Professor C: Oh, yeah . Yeah . Yeah . No , he 'll be around for three weeks . He 's , uh , um , very , very , easygoing ,easy to talk to , and , uh , very interested in everything .PhD A: Really nice guy .Professor C: Yeah , yeah.PhD B: Yeah , we met him in Amsterdam .Professor C: Yeah , yeah , he 's been here before .PhD B: Oh ,OK .Professor C: I mean , he 's {disfmarker} he 's {disfmarker} he 's {disfmarker} he 's{disfmarker}PhD A: Wh - Back when I was a grad student he was here for a , uh , uh {disfmarker} ayear or {comment} n six months .PhD B: I haven't noticed him .Professor C: N nine months .PhD A:Something like that .Professor C: Something like that .PhD A: Yeah .Professor C: Yeah . Yeah . He 's{disfmarker} he 's done a couple stays here .PhD B: Hmm .Professor C: Yeah .PhD A: So , um ,{vocalsound} {comment} I guess we got lots to catch up on . And we haven't met for a couple of weeks .We didn't meet last week , Morgan . Um , I went around and talked to everybody , and it seemed likethey {disfmarker} they had some new results but rather than them coming up and telling me I figuredwe should just wait a week and they can tell both {disfmarker} you know , all of us . So , um , why don'twe {disfmarker} why don't we start with you , Dave , and then , um , we can go on .Grad E: Oh , OK.PhD A: So .Grad E: So , um , since we 're looking at putting this , um {disfmarker} mean log mmagnitude spectral subtraction , um , into the SmartKom system , I I did a test seeing if , um , it wouldwork using past only {comment} and plus the present to calculate the mean . So , I did a test , um ,{vocalsound} where I used twelve seconds from the past and the present frame to , um , calculate themean . And {disfmarker}PhD A: Twelve seconds {disfmarker} Twelve {disfmarker} twelve seconds backfrom the current {pause} frame , is that what you mean ?Grad E: Uh {disfmarker} Twelve seconds , um ,counting back from the end of the current frame ,PhD A: OK , OK .Grad E: yeah . So it was , um , twen Ithink it was twenty - one frames and that worked out to about twelve seconds .PhD A: Mm - hmm .GradE: And compared to , um , do using a twelve second centered window , I think there was a drop inperformance but it was just a slight drop .PhD A: Hmm !Professor C: Mm - hmm .Grad E: Is {disfmarker}is that right ?Professor C: Um , yeah , I mean , it was pretty {disfmarker} it was pretty tiny . Yeah .GradE: Uh - huh . So that was encouraging . And , um , that {disfmarker} that {disfmarker} um , that 'sencouraging for {disfmarker} for the idea of using it in an interactive system like And , um , anotherissue I 'm {disfmarker} I 'm thinking about is in the SmartKom system . So say twe twelve seconds inthe earlier test seemed like a good length of time , but what happens if you have less than twelveseconds ? And , um {disfmarker} So I w bef before , um {disfmarker} Back in May , I did someexperiments using , say , two seconds , or four seconds , or six seconds . In those I trained the modelsusing mean subtraction with the means calculated over two seconds , or four seconds , or six seconds .And , um , here , I was curious , what if I trained the models using twelve seconds but I f I gave it asituation where the test set I was {disfmarker} subtracted using two seconds , or four seconds , or sixseconds . And , um {disfmarker} So I did that for about three different conditions . And , um{disfmarker} I mean , I th I think it was , um , four se I think {disfmarker} I think it was , um ,something like four seconds and , um , six seconds , and eight seconds . Something like that . And itseems like it {disfmarker} it {disfmarker} it hurts compared to if you actually train the models{comment} using th that same length of time but it {disfmarker} it doesn't hurt that much . Um , uusually less than point five percent , although I think I did see one where it was a point eight percent or"} {"doc_id":"doc_190","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: Um we are {disfmarker} So the meeting will have about the same format as the lasttime . So {gap} switching over I've just left uh my first two screens {gap} .User Interface: Mm-hmm.Project Manager: Um {vocalsound} mailed you the minutes of the last meeting uh just to save time.User Interface: Okay . Cool .Project Manager: {vocalsound} Um and is there any questions you havethat arised from last meeting that are particularly bothering you ? NUser Interface: Mm um . No , I don'tthink so .Project Manager: No ? Okay , cool .Industrial Designer: No .Project Manager: Then we shallstart with a presentation from Raj .Marketing: Yeah . {vocalsound} Hi , me Raj , again . Uh in thismeeting I I'm going to discuss about the trend watching , uh how these trends is going to affect ourmarket potential and how important is this . So we have to look on this . First of all methodology . Themet methodology to find out the trend was incl uh was done in a way {disfmarker} {vocalsound} Wehave done a rec not only a recent remote control market survey , but we also considered the latest frefashion trends of the market , because we think that this is also a factor which will affect our sales andprofit . So what are our findings ? In our {vocalsound} uh in our findings we have seen that {disfmarker}when we did our remote control market survey we found that uh people l uh people do have preferencefor tho fancy mobi uh f remote controls which look and feel very good , rather than having a functionallook and feel uh good . So this sh this clearly indicates their preference for the design their outlook of theremote controls . So we should take into uh we should consider this factor as the most important factor ,because this factor is twice as important , the second factor which is further ti twice the as important asthe sec as uh the third factor . So this factor becomes the most important factor in our surv uh uh in ourmark uh means in take {disfmarker} in designing our rem uh remote controls .User Interface: The lastone is the most important one , is it ?Marketing: No the first one is theUser Interface: Oh , sorry.Marketing: uh the outlook of the mobile , the it should have a fancy outlook ,Project Manager:{gap}User Interface: Okay .Marketing: the fancy design uh rather than just having a functional look andfeel good , it should have a fancy look and foo feel good .User Interface: Okay .Marketing: The secondmost important aspect is that remote control should be a technologically uh innovative . We must havesome technological advancement in the remote control tha rather than just putting it as it is as the otherremo uh remote controls are . So it uh should be technologically innovative like glow-in-the-dark orspeech recognition , something like that .Project Manager: {vocalsound}Marketing: So that indicates ourtechnological advancement . And the third most important aspect in the ta to take into consideration isthat it should be easy to use ,User Interface: Mm-hmm .Marketing: like it shouldn't be too much cocomplicated ,User Interface: Mm-hmm .Marketing: there shouldn't be too many buttons on this mobi uhremote control , it shouldn't be too complicated uh like this way . And it should be uh {disfmarker} andcustomers should be provided with manuals that is easy to understand in their local language , something. So that they could know how to use these remote controls . When we did uh f fashions uh , recentfashion uh {disfmarker} our recent fashion update shows that {disfmarker}User Interface: {vocalsound}Sorry .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Marketing: Ah yeah ? {vocalsound}User Interface: I was justreading fruit and vegetables .Project Manager: {vocalsound}User Interface: Hard to know how we aregoing to incorporate that . {vocalsound}Marketing: Y yeah uh yeah , we have to , because uh d you cansee how people have related their clothes , shoes , {gap} and everything with fruits and vegetables,Project Manager: {gap}User Interface: {vocalsound}Marketing: because the g world is now changing it'strend towards organic , becoming more and more organic ,User Interface: Okay . Yeah .IndustrialDesigner: We should make a big sponge lemon ,Marketing: becoming {disfmarker}{vocalsound}Industrial Designer: and then it'd be it would be yellow .Marketing: Yeah .{vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound}User Interface: Yeah .Industrial Designer: It's{disfmarker}Marketing: So {disfmarker} {vocalsound}User Interface: Th that's very good .IndustrialDesigner: Yeah .Marketing: Yeah . So something like that we we should do .User Interface:Glow-in-the-dark . Okay .Marketing: And people uh the f feel of the material is expected to be spongyrather than just having a plastic look , hard look .Industrial Designer: Mm . {vocalsound}User Interface:"} {"doc_id":"doc_191","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: Okay . Uh first of all I'll start with the costs ,Marketing: {gap} .Project Manager:because that's going to influence our design .User Interface: {vocalsound} Oh no .Marketing: Oh , {gap}. {vocalsound}Project Manager: If you {disfmarker} Don't know if you al already had a look or not ?UserInterface: No n I I already did it .Industrial Designer: Did you do your questionnaire already ?Marketing:No .User Interface: It's not much . It's just one question .Project Manager: Because we have a problem.Industrial Designer: Uh {disfmarker}Marketing: Oh . {vocalsound}Project Manager: If you look closely ,you can see .User Interface: Yeah .Industrial Designer: It wants {disfmarker}Project Manager: Um Ialready took the liberty to make some suggestions . {gap} . {gap} . {vocalsound} At the moment wehave fifteen buttons , one L_C_D_ screen , one advanced chip-on-print . We use a uh sensor , that's forthe speech . Uh we use kinetic energy . And we wanted uh the buttons in a special colour . Okay . What'sthe first thing we should drop ? The special colour of the buttons ?User Interface: No that's that's for thetrendy uh feel and look . So {disfmarker}Project Manager: Okay . Uh {disfmarker}Industrial Designer:Yeah but everything is .Project Manager: Should we switch to a hand dynamo ?User Interface:{vocalsound}Project Manager: Uh that's the still the same idea as the kinetic energy because you have touse it and do things .Marketing: No .User Interface: Yeah , b but {disfmarker}Marketing: Yeah but youngpeople like that .Project Manager: Batteries ?Marketing: So just do normal battery .Project Manager:Batteries .User Interface: I think the battery option .Industrial Designer: Just a normal battery then ,yeah .Marketing: Yeah .Project Manager: {gap} .Marketing: It has to be twelve and a half .ProjectManager: Yeah .Marketing: Or not ? {vocalsound}User Interface: Oh . {vocalsound}Project Manager: So{disfmarker}Industrial Designer: Oh my goodness .Project Manager: You're going to redesign something.Marketing: {vocalsound}User Interface: Oh no .Project Manager: Okay , so we're at twenty five.Marketing: Uh , yeah . {vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound} Um {disfmarker} Do we keep theshape doubly curved or g do we go for single curved ?Industrial Designer: Well I guess i we'll have to gofor single curve then . I mean we have to drop on everything .Project Manager: Mm-hmm . {vocalsound}Uh {disfmarker}Marketing: But we can keep it single curved with uh top view still curved , but from theside it's it's flat ,Industrial Designer: Yeah .Marketing: and the screen screen is just {disfmarker} Wellyou just have to hold it like this then . So {disfmarker}Project Manager: {vocalsound} Yeah . Um{disfmarker}Industrial Designer: How about {disfmarker} Sorry .Project Manager: Uh another option Isaw was to drop the buttons one through nine , so you can't directly access a channel , but instead useonly the up and down arrows . That would skip nine buttons and four and a half Euros .IndustrialDesigner: That's what I was thinking .User Interface: Yeah .Marketing: Alright .Project Manager: Yeah?Industrial Designer: A aMarketing: Let's do it then . Yeah .Project Manager: Uh then we have left{disfmarker}User Interface: But we don't have any basic options any more .Marketing: {gap} we{disfmarker} {vocalsound}Project Manager: Uh yeah . We do .Industrial Designer: And uh 'cause thenthey don't have to n They don't need special colour as well .Marketing: F_ eight .Project Manager: Theydon't need special colours . Fine . That's more like it .Marketing: {vocalsound} Yeah .User Interface:{vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound} You were saying something .Industrial Designer: That wasexactly my point . Like let's drop all the buttons , and just make oneProject Manager: Yeah .IndustrialDesigner: {disfmarker} I mean we're gonna use the L_C_D_ screen anyway . So we'll just have to use itfor everything .Project Manager: Mm-hmm . Yeah .Industrial Designer: And then you can make anoverview of channels in the screen , and select a channel , click {disfmarker}Project Manager: Yeah ,some more menu options . Yeah . Okay so maybe we can drop few more buttons .Industrial Designer:{vocalsound}Project Manager: But um {disfmarker} Now let's look .User Interface: Yeah we c could{disfmarker} We only need the the the the the menu arrow arrow button uh thing . Everything you cando with with the menu . So {disfmarker} With the display .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}ProjectManager: Mm-hmm .Industrial Designer: Yeah we need one integrated button for everything then .UserInterface: Yeah .Marketing: The joystick .Project Manager: {vocalsound} Uh {disfmarker}IndustrialDesigner: Yeah . Kind of . I was {disfmarker} Because {disfmarker}Marketing: {vocalsound}Project"} {"doc_id":"doc_192","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: Okay . Oh , that's not gonna work . {vocalsound} Oh , alright . {vocalsound} Okay .Okay . Um alright .Marketing: Uh , uh , um .Project Manager: I'll just put that there . Uh as you all knowwe're here to create a brand new fantastic remote . Uh I'm Nick Debusk , I'm the Project Manager . Uhwe'll just get started with everyone kind of letting each other know who they are and what you're doing ,what your what your role is um . Go ahead .Marketing: Okay . {vocalsound} I am Corinne Whiting and Iwill be the Marketing Expert and in each of the three phases I will have a different role . In the functiondesign phase I will be talking about user requirement specification , and this means what needs anddesires are to be fulfilled , and I'll be doing research to figure this out . In the conceptual design phase Iwill be dealing with trend watching and I'll be doing marketing research on the web . And then finally inthe um detailed design phase I will be doing product evaluation and so I will be collecting therequirements and ranking all the requirements to see how we did .Project Manager: 'Kay .User Interface:Hiya , I'm Ryan . Um I'm the User Interface Designer . Um likewise I've three different roles for eachstage of design . Um the functional design is looking at the tex technical functions of a remote control .Um in the concept design , the user interface , how the user reacts with the the product . And thedetailed design um {vocalsound} sort of like the user interface design , what they might be looking for ,uh things like fashions , what makes wha how we're gonna make it special . That's about it .IndustrialDesigner: {vocalsound} Right . {vocalsound} I'm Manuel and I'm the Industrial Designer in in thisproject um . In the functional design phase I'm {disfmarker} I'll be dealing mostly with the requirements, um we'll discuss what the prog what functions the the product has to fulfil and so and so on . Um Isuppose we'll work pretty much together on that one . Um um in the conceptual design um I'll be promostly dealing with properties and materials um of our product .User Interface: Yeah .IndustrialDesigner: And uh the detailed design {disfmarker} in the detailed design I'll be concerned with the lookand feel of the product itself , um so we're pretty much working together obviously on the design fronthere . Okay . {vocalsound}Project Manager: Okay . Um so we've got our opening , our our agenda is theopening , uh acquaintance which we've kinda done . Uh tool training , project plan discussion and thenclosing .User Interface: {vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager: Uh grand total of twentyfive minutes we have here . Um so we are putting together a new remote control . Um we want it to besomething original . Um of course we're a {disfmarker} not only a electronics company but a fashion umconscious electronics company , so we want it to be trendy um and we want it to be easy to use .{vocalsound} Um we've got the functional design , conceptual design and detailed design um whichbasically is is the three of you um . And w uh {vocalsound} well um functional design um . Um do wehave {disfmarker} um any ideas of of {disfmarker} {vocalsound} maybe d let's just throw out someideas of what kind of remote control we want to have , and then we can go into how we're gonna designit and and how we're gonna do the detailing on it .User Interface: Yeah . Well uh s function of remotecontrol is just just {disfmarker} you know , change channels is its main function .Project Manager: So wewant it to be um a T_V_ remote or {disfmarker} I I mean do we want it to to do other things besides justbe a a television remote ?User Interface: Oh right . I suppose you c try make it a universal remoteProjectManager: 'Kay .User Interface: for {disfmarker} could work on all sort of electrical products in in oneperson's house . But , you know , they all sorta have the same role changing channels , volumes and thenprogramming .Marketing: Mm .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Project Manager: Mm-hmm . 'Kay.Industrial Designer: Mm .User Interface: I think they all work on the same prin principle as well sortalike {disfmarker} I don't actually know . {gap} But is it just infra-red ? Is that standard ?ProjectManager: I I think {disfmarker} yeah , yeah , r universal remote .User Interface: Ye yeah .ProjectManager: Um this is my first uh go-round with creating a remote control ,Marketing: Huh .{vocalsound}Project Manager: so {disfmarker}Marketing: {vocalsound} Ours too . {vocalsound}UserInterface: {vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound} I think we're all in the same boat here .{vocalsound} Um {disfmarker}User Interface: Um one thing I thought of with the remote control is youalways lose 'em .Project Manager: Okay .User Interface: So if there's a g a way of finding it quite easily ,"} {"doc_id":"doc_193","qid":"","text":"Gareth Rogers: Good morning, and welcome to today's meeting of the Children, Young People andEducation Committee. Unfortunately, the Chair is unable to attend today, so in accordance with StandingOrder 17.22 I call for nominations for a temporary Chair for the duration of today's meeting.Julie MorganAM: I nominate John Griffiths.Gareth Rogers: Thank you.Darren Millar AM: I'll second thatnomination.Gareth Rogers: As there's only one nomination, I declare that John Griffiths has beenappointed as temporary Chair. Thank you, John.John Griffiths AM: Okay. Thank you all very much, anditem 1 on our agenda today is introductions, apologies, substitutions and declarations of interest. We'vereceived apologies from Hefin David and Lynne Neagle. There are no substitutions. Are there anydeclarations of interest? No. We will move on then to item 2, and our inquiry into the impact of Brexit onhigher and further education, and our first evidence session. I'm very pleased to welcome the HigherEducation Funding Council for Wales here today, and Dr David Blaney as chief executive, and BethanOwen, director of institutional engagement. Welcome to you both. Thanks for coming along to giveevidence today. If it's okay with you, we'll move straight to questions, and Julie Morgan.Julie Morgan AM:Good morning. Bore da. I wondered if we could start off with you telling us what evidence you can seethat the Brexit process has had any impact on Welsh higher education so far.Dr David Blaney: Can Ipreface the response by just reminding you that we are, by contract and by role, apolitical, and a lot ofthe judgments about the impact of Brexit essentially reflect where people sit politically in terms ofwhether they think it's a good thing or a bad thing? We're not going to go there, obviously, today, so we'llstick to the facts as we can see them, and hopefully we'll be able to help you, but there are areas wherewe are unable to help. That's part of the reason.John Griffiths AM: We certainly do not expect you toenter the political fray in any way.Dr David Blaney: Thank you. But even in terms of your assessment ofwhether this is going to be a good thing or a bad thing, a good impact or a bad impact, some of thatinevitably in the end becomes a matter of your politics on it, so we will be as careful as we can be onthat. In terms of the impact of Brexit on higher education, clearly, the significance here is about thecontribution that higher education can make to Wales. So, we fund provision; we don't fund providers,technically, although obviously there's not much provision without providers. So, we are interested in thesustainability of higher education providers, but fundamentally the issue is: what does the HE system inWales do for Wales, and what impact might Brexit have on the capacity of the system to continue todeliver for Wales? So, we know that universities make annually about £5 billion of impact; 50,000 jobs.Of course, in Wales, all of that economic impact is really very significant, and uncertainty about therelationships and the arrangements with Europe is one of the most significant issues confrontinguniversity management at the moment. That has an impact in a number of ways. We can identify at themoment the extent to which the HE sector in Wales is exposed to sources of income that are located fromthe EU, so EU students, structural funds, and EU research funding, and so on, from the EU. We canidentify some of that, but, actually, what happens in the future is much harder to be clear about. We arebeginning to see some impact in terms of applications from EU students and I'll ask Bethan to share somedetails on that in a moment. We're also beginning to pick up, only anecdotally, some signs that there areincreasing difficulties in the UK sector, and the Welsh sector as part of that, in playing in some of the EUcollaborative research activities. And that, I think, just reflects the extent to which EU partners considerthat British partners might be a stable partner as we go through this transition period. We don't havedata on that—that's anecdotal—but there are signs that some of those relationships are beginning tobecome a little bit more difficult. In terms of the financial impact of that, clearly, if it is accepted that theUK is a net contributor to the EU then, presumably, some of the money—we're almost immediatelystraight into politics if you're not careful—but some of the money will be available back to the UK, and theextent to which Wales benefits or not from that returned money is a function of the political relationshipbetween the Welsh Government and Her Majesty's Government. It's not necessarily the case that Waleswill always lose out in that relationship, but that will become a matter of politics. There's a broaderdimension, which is about the economic impact of Brexit on the UK economy and how much tax revenue"} {"doc_id":"doc_194","qid":"","text":"Grad B: what things to talk about .Grad F: I 'm {disfmarker} What ? Really ? Oh , that 's horrible !Disincentive !Grad A: OK , we 're recording .Grad F: Hello ?Grad B: Check check {pause} check check.Grad D: Uh , yeah .Grad F: Hello ? Which am I ?Professor C: Oh right .Grad B: Alright . Good .Grad F:Channel fi OK . OK . Are you doing something ? OK , then I guess I 'm doing something . So , um , Sobasically the result of m much thinking since the last time we met , um , but not as much writing , um , isa sheet that I have a lot of , like , thoughts and justification of comments on but I 'll just pass out as isright now . So , um , here . If you could pass this around ? And there 's two things . And so one on oneside is {disfmarker} on one side is a sort of the revised sort of updated semantic specification .Grad D:Um {disfmarker} The {disfmarker} wait .Grad F: And the other side is , um , sort of a revisedconstruction formalism .Grad E: This is just one sheet , right ?Grad D: Ah ! Just one sheet .Grad F: It 'sjust one sheet .Grad D: OK .Grad F: It 's just a {disfmarker} Nothing else .Grad D: Front , back .Grad F:Um , Enough to go around ? OK . And in some ways it 's {disfmarker} it 's {disfmarker} it 's very similarto {disfmarker} There are very few changes in some ways from what we 've , um , uh , b done before butI don't think everyone here has seen all of this . So , uh , I 'm not sure where to begin . Um , as usual thedisclaimers are there are {disfmarker} all these things are {disfmarker} it 's only slightly more stablethan it was before .Grad E: Mm - hmm .Grad F: And , um , after a little bit more discussion and especiallylike Keith and I {disfmarker} I have more linguistic things to settle in the next few days , um , it 'llprobably change again some more .Grad E: Yeah .Grad F: Um , maybe I will {disfmarker} let 's start b let's start on number two actually on the notation , um , because that 's , I 'm thinking , possibly a littlemore familiar to , um {disfmarker} to people . OK , so the top block is just sort of a {disfmarker} sort ofabstract nota it 's sort of like , um , listings of the kinds of things that we can have . And certain thingsthat have , um , changed , have changed back to this . There {disfmarker} there 's been a little bit of ,um , going back and forth . But basically obviously all constructions have some kind of name . I forgot toinclude that you could have a type included in this line .Professor C: What I was gonna {disfmarker}Right .Grad F: So something like , um {disfmarker} Well , there 's an example {disfmarker} the textualexample at the end has clausal construction . So , um , just to show it doesn't have to be beautiful Itcould be , you know , simple old text as well . Um , there are a couple of {disfmarker} Uh , these threehave various ways of doing certain things . So I 'll just try to go through them . So they could all have atype at the beginning . Um , and then they say the key word constructionProfessor C: Oh , I see .Grad F:and they have some name .Professor C: So {disfmarker} so the current syntax is if it s if there 's a type it's before constructGrad F: Yeah , right .Professor C: OK , that 's fine .Grad F: OK , and then it has a blockthat is constituents . And as usual I guess all the constructions her all the examples here have only , um ,tsk {comment} one type of constituent , that is a constructional constituent . I think that 's actuallygonna turn out to m be certainly the most common kind . But in general instead of the word \" construct \", th here you might have \" meaning \" or \" form \" as well . OK ? So if there 's some element that doesn't{disfmarker} that isn't yet constructional in the sense that it maps form and meaning . OK , um , themain change with the constructs which {disfmarker} each of which has , um , the key word \" construct \"and then some name , and then some type specification , is that it 's {disfmarker} it 's pro it 's often{disfmarker} sometimes the case in the first case here that you know what kind of construction it is . Sofor example whatever I have here is gonna be a form of the word \" throw \" , or it 's gonna be a form ofthe word , you know , I don't know , \" happy \" , or something like that . Or , you know , some it 'll be aspecific word or maybe you 'll have the type . You 'll say \" I need a p uh spatial relation phrase here \" or \"I need a directional specifier here \" . So - uh you could have a j a actual type here . Um , or you couldjust say in the second case that you only know the meaning type . So a very common example of this isthat , you know , in directed motion , the first person to do something should be an agent of some kind ,often a human . Right ? So if I {disfmarker} you know , the um , uh , run down the street then I{disfmarker} I {disfmarker} I run down the street , it 's typed , uh , \" I \" , meaning category is what 'sthere . The {disfmarker} the new kind is this one that is sort of a pair and , um , sort of skipping fonts"} {"doc_id":"doc_195","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: Okay , good morning . This is our first team meeting .User Interface: Good day.Marketing: Morning .Industrial Designer: Morning .Project Manager: I'll be your Project Manager fortoday , for this project . My name is Mark {gap} will be giving this presentation for you to kick the projectoff . {vocalsound} That's my uh that's the agenda for today . Well , of course we're new to each other ,so I'd like to get acquainted first . So let's do that first , I mean {disfmarker} Let's start with you , canyou introduce yourself ? You're our Marketing Expert .Marketing: Yes . {vocalsound} Um my name is Dirk, Dirk Meinfeld . Um I will be uh {gap} Pr Project {disfmarker} the Marketing Expert . And I will see whatthe user wants and uh what we can do uh with the new produ project {disfmarker} product .{vocalsound}Project Manager: Okay , excellent . And you are User Interface {disfmarker}User Interface:Nick Broer ,Project Manager: Yeah .User Interface: User Interface Designer . I'm going to uh look at thetechnical design from the uh user point of view .Project Manager: Excellent . Okay .Industrial Designer:My name is Xavier Juergens , I'm the Industrial Designer , and there are three main questions that I haveto find an answer to today . First one is uh what happens inside the apparatus , second is what is uh theapparatus made of ,Marketing: Hmm .Industrial Designer: and the third is what should it look like.Project Manager: What should it look like ? Okay .Marketing: Hmm .Project Manager: Oh , let's kick it off. Oh , there we go . So , our new project is about {disfmarker} we need design a remote control fortelevision set , so , which has to be original , trendy and user-friendly . I took this off our corporatewebsite . {disfmarker} I think well it sums up what we need to do . It's We're inspired by latest fashion ,not only electronics , but also the latest trends in clothes and interior design . That's why our product willalways fit in your home . So apparently we need to {vocalsound} um be very at um very open to what'scurrently hot in the market . So that's what you need to do to bring us the latest info and what peoplewant .Marketing: Yeah . Yeah .Project Manager: So {disfmarker} So we put the fashion in electronics . Sothat's what we need to go for . Anyway , we'll take this project in three steps , three pha uh three phaseof design . First step will be the functional design .Marketing: Yeah .Project Manager: And that's basicallywhat we're gonna do . Everybody has uh a piece of individual work and a meeting afterwards , so we canshare information about {disfmarker} So I'm gonna keep this short , since we had a technical problem .So skip through this . Uh . Okay . Every meeting we {disfmarker} everybody can present their uh theirviews and everything , so to help with these , you have {disfmarker} we have the SMARTboards here .We can use a regular PowerPoint presentation . I'm supposed to give you an introduction on this doodlingboard , so it's {disfmarker} actually it's very easy . Like it says , very simple , you just take out the pen .Like you see here , I'll just take the {disfmarker} take {gap} here . That's it , you just put it on the board. You see a pen here . You go here , just like using a pen . You can just draw whatever you want . It's likethe eraser , can erase whatever you want . And so it will be easy just to illustrate your views , if youwanna change the format , you just {vocalsound} either take out jus just like the pen , and whatever youwant , your current colour , your line width , just to make the line bigger . So it should be really easy.Marketing: Okay .Project Manager: This is to take the {disfmarker} just take a new slide and back again. We're just gonna keep using this board all the time , so I think it will be {disfmarker} it's very clear foreveryone , I suppose . So I'll take this out . {vocalsound} Okay . We'll use that later . Anyway . Yeah ,just just just stuff that you wanna share , just put it in the in the project folder , like I put mypresentation now . I'll put the the minutes of every meeting , I'll put them there too , so everybody canread up if they have to leave early or whatever . So next , been here . {vocalsound} Well , {gap} gonnagive the electronic white-board uh a shot . So basic idea is we have a blank sheet . Just try whatever youwant , and like it says , draw your favourite animal . I think the creative genius should go first .{vocalsound}User Interface: {vocalsound} The creative genius ?Industrial Designer:{vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound}User Interface: Thank you very much .Project Manager: So , drawus your favourite animal .User Interface: {vocalsound} Well , I'm more into the technical aspects ofdrawing ,Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}User Interface: so I'm not really good at drawing animals,Project Manager: Draw us a technical animal .User Interface: but uh the animal which I {gap}"} {"doc_id":"doc_196","qid":"","text":"Project Manager: Okay . Hi everybody and welcome to our kick-off meeting um for our new product thatwe're gonna be designing . Um I'm Mandy and I'm the Project Manager . And I know all your names again, Courtney , Fenella and Amber .Marketing: Yep .Project Manager: Alright . Okay ,Industrial Designer:Yep .Project Manager: so first let's go through this PowerPoint . I wonder what button I press ?UserInterface: Just do it on the {gap} arrow .Industrial Designer: {gap}Project Manager: Yeah , or how aboutI just click ? Okay , here is our agenda for this meeting . Um we're gonna start with our opening whichwas our introductions . {vocalsound} We're gonna get to know each other a little bit better . Um tooltraining , we're going to , I guess , figure out what to do on this project with our individual roles . Umwe're gonna make a project plan and then have some time for discussion and close up the meeting .Okay , here is our project . We're gonna make a new remote control that's um original , trendy and alsouser-friendly . And how we are going to do it is each of us is going to um {disfmarker} We're gonna have{disfmarker} discuss the functional design first , {vocalsound} how is it gonna be used , what's theactual goal here , it has to operate T_V_ , blah blah blah . And we're going to do individual work on thatand then meet . Same thing with conceptual design . Just the basic overview of the project and thenwe're going to do individual work , meet . That's pretty much the the whole process for today . And thenthe detailed design , just more in-depth , get the actual schematics of the remote . Okay . Alright . Firstwe're gonna start off by using our tools . And the whiteboard thing , do you guys wanna give that a tryeven though the ink wasn't working or do you wanna do it on here .Industrial Designer: I think we shouldforgo the whiteboard since we can't actually see what we're writing .Marketing: We could {disfmarker}Yeah , we could on here .Project Manager: Alright , let's go forward then .User Interface:{vocalsound}Project Manager: Um right now so we're all gonna draw our favourite animal and then sumup our favourite characteristics of that animal . Even if you are not a good drawer like me .User Interface:{vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound} Alright .Industrial Designer: Artistic skills , nil .UserInterface: Fine .Project Manager: Um .User Interface: {vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound} Oh , thanks. {vocalsound}Project Manager: Bless you .Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Project Manager:{vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} I draw like I'm in grade five.Project Manager: {vocalsound} Oh do I .User Interface: {vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound}'Kay , about one more minute . {vocalsound} Okay .Marketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager: Okay .And who would like to start us off ?Marketing: I'll go .Project Manager: Alright .Marketing: {vocalsound}Um this is my picture . I drew fish {disfmarker} {vocalsound} I like fish , because uh , you know , theirwhole water-vascular system thing .User Interface: {vocalsound}Marketing: It's pretty cool , and umthey've got a pretty good habitat and they are pretty sometimes , sometimes vicious but that's okay.Project Manager: {vocalsound} Only if they're piranhas .Marketing: Yeah .User Interface:{vocalsound}Marketing: Yeah , they they're easy , you know .Project Manager: Alright .Marketing: Yeah.Project Manager: Who wants to go next ?Industrial Designer: I'll go .User Interface:{vocalsound}Industrial Designer: I drew a kitty . It's pretty much impossible to tell that's a cat , but Ilove cats .Marketing: No I I see it .Project Manager: No , it looks like a cat .User Interface: No , I kne Iknew .Marketing: Yeah , it does look like a cat .Industrial Designer: I love cats because they'reindependent , uh they pretty much know what they want , they get it , they move on .{vocalsound}Project Manager: I love cats , too . I'm a cat person .User Interface: Yeah .Marketing: I'mallergic to cats .Project Manager: Uh .Industrial Designer: I'm allergic to cats , too . {vocalsound}UserInterface: Ah .Marketing: {vocalsound} Oh , okay . {vocalsound}Project Manager: If you're around one{disfmarker}User Interface: In my next life .Project Manager: I had a roommate who was um allergic ,but if she was around my cat forever she became used to it , you know ,Marketing: Yeah , yeah , if you'rearound them for a long period of time {disfmarker}Project Manager: it's weird . Okay .{vocalsound}Industrial Designer: I still can't sleep with them in my room .Marketing: Oh , yeah , thissummer I , oh I had to live with cats . It was crazy .Project Manager: Okay , Fenella ?Marketing: Yeah.User Interface: Um , I drew a badger . {vocalsound}Project Manager: Badger . Good choice .Industrial"}