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  # Merging with alignment: does it improve DOWNSTREAM ACCURACY?
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- _Generated 2026-08-27 00:24 UTC · training-free · code `/root/merge-accuracy` · merge operators, aligners and
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  ## Headline
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- **3 real community fork(s), 3 ground-truth control(s).**
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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  - On **3 of 3** real community CPT forks the fitted alignment map is the **identity** (coordinate share exactly 0; every per-layer MLP and attention-head permutation comes back as the identity). Continued pretraining by a third party did **not** move these models out of the base model's frame, so the chat vector is already expressed in the right basis and aligning it is a no-op. The measured accuracy difference is **exactly zero on every benchmark** — the aligned and naive merges are bit-identical models.
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  - The chat-vector recipe itself **works** on 2 of 3 of these forks: it lifts instruction following well above the fork it started from, i.e. the merged model beats its own parent — the bar that matters.
 
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  # Merging with alignment: does it improve DOWNSTREAM ACCURACY?
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+ _Generated 2026-08-27 00:25 UTC · training-free · code `/root/merge-accuracy` · merge operators, aligners and
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  ## Headline
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+ > **Alignment did not improve downstream accuracy on a single real model because on every
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+ > real model there was nothing to align.** All three community continued-pretrained forks of
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+ > `Llama-3.1-8B` are still exactly in the base model's coordinate frame, so the aligned and
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+ > naive chat vectors are bit-identical models and the accuracy difference is 0.000 on every
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+ > benchmark. The diagnostic said so **before** any merge was built, and a 44-second screen
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+ > reproduces that call 37x cheaper than fitting the map. When the frame really has drifted —
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+ > a real fork acted on by a random element of its own symmetry group — the naive chat vector
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+ > collapses (IFEval 0.175 -> 0.110, *below* the fork it started from) and alignment restores
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+ > it to 0.355 against an unpermuted reference of 0.375. **The mechanism is real and does reach
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+ > accuracy; the ecosystem condition that would make it pay off did not occur in the three
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+ > released forks we found.**
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+ Population: **3 real community forks** (3 groups, 3 target languages), **3 ground-truth controls**, plus one cross-group direct-merge pair.
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  - On **3 of 3** real community CPT forks the fitted alignment map is the **identity** (coordinate share exactly 0; every per-layer MLP and attention-head permutation comes back as the identity). Continued pretraining by a third party did **not** move these models out of the base model's frame, so the chat vector is already expressed in the right basis and aligning it is a no-op. The measured accuracy difference is **exactly zero on every benchmark** — the aligned and naive merges are bit-identical models.
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  - The chat-vector recipe itself **works** on 2 of 3 of these forks: it lifts instruction following well above the fork it started from, i.e. the merged model beats its own parent — the bar that matters.