10.59064432883839	17.90460223150113	O1	And we are going to talk about celebrities so Seville, why don't you tell me some of your favorite celebrities?
17.90460223150113	20.40668704170601	O1	Who are they? Why do you like them?
22.147144553998746	28.821571687957267	O2	Well, to, personally I enjoy a bunch of the musicians and actors.
29.052594399775575	32.27057251656273	O2	but I'll start with musicians first.
35.03421701173361	38.28979664410716	O2	So there is Harry Styles.
39.42033991430059	42.84489832205359	O2	Actually, you want the whole group of one direction.
43.8380029508253	46.37495771094469	O2	So e- every uh band member .
47.67354002643067	49.888961702977795	O2	I am proud to say that I'm one
52.36707436626486	54.32585126747026	O2	Um, of course.
54.5378907532738	60.62405461075082	O2	When you say celebrity I, I think of like fangirls and stuff. So that's why.
60.82775674301721	63.63728471546525	O2	one direction is the first thing like in the mind
64.34476875695339	70.04092010732451	O2	Other than that uh more artistically speaking I would say Julian Catherine.
72.13707436626487	77.66129285971728	O2	Is a name that I enjoy uh keeping up to.
77.89863886107885	79.2093869688839	O2	Keeping up with.
80.5266375067024	82.1306813870747	O2	Speaking of keeping up.
84.60413171580163	86.44243203766109	O2	I keep up with the Kardashian.
88.27450500060539	89.35613925634206	O2	they're like
90.02525709818218	90.8141957322447	O1	The biggest
90.8141957322447	92.81369303246977	O2	the biggest celebrities
94.31909038859568	96.97426725762813	O1	No. I'm in America at least. Maybe the.
99.52777695410444	107.52777695410444	O1	Yeah, I mean speaking of the Kardashians, I just think it's so weird how their career excelled. You know.
107.69512639385879	110.8264511314781	O1	from that one show that they had that reality show.
112.04757485902303	115.60468063387611	O1	I don't know they have, uh I mean their life has turned into something.
115.92440899877941	118.94245692228102	O2	So wild as they say,
118.94802648110871	120.14530716670401	O1	you know what I mean
122.94430889071683	130.26318083519485	O2	I think the most interesting thing about them is that they got. They just got more famous as they.
130.4319931252971	131.7715321843751	O2	As time went on.
132.32255340899567	133.16996171532003	O1	That's true.
133.16996171532003	135.76022961851453	O2	which is something that we don't see often
137.39288509887177	141.69774468659722	O1	You're right you're right like it didn't go down have uh they didn't have like a
142.99042898625413	145.8232072679795	O2	A big moment and then just like a female.
147.03409341591112	152.82660022953667	O1	paid it out that just like sounds an excel and now even though their show has ended in.
153.35451098579824	160.02117271042485	O1	There is nothing changing like or maybe over time it will, but like right now they're so very much famous. They're very famous.
160.02117271042485	164.11060143939292	O1	They're very relevant or maybe they're trying to stay relevant. I don't know, but.
165.98183337793063	170.65928518439426	O2	I think they found of the formula of staying relevant.
172.60376271264522	174.54333155421241	O1	Why do you think they're so relevant?
176.27605540826934	181.25333288855313	O2	Well, I think because they always come of something new.
181.81666742540938	184.303331868175	O2	They don't stay in the same place.
185.90333430138435	187.60666601257813	O1	I think it's because they.
188.0633343013844	194.00210675743338	O1	Weren't shy to show things that a lot of people maybe wouldn't want to show because they were very open about
194.00210675743338	197.0749279635523	O1	everything happening in their lives okay even though
197.0749279635523	201.1037508718301	O1	yeah, I'm sure some parts of the show were staged and everything.
201.46857245924792	203.2384349557516	O1	I mean like the general.
204.02503465139154	207.16357226382604	O1	um just like general things about them.
207.56493340274722	211.8617691033558	O1	I feel like that was out in the open and everyone just knew what was going on in their relationships,
211.8902751975603	218.90748975171115	O1	even if it was something that would be considered embarrassing, you know? Or just T M I for a lot of people.
218.90748975171115	222.6674258923523	O1	or I feel like they never held back and they were just show everything.
223.4753069112122	229.55667535296251	O1	And they were open in that sense, and I think that's why uh that's what made them so relevant and relatable at the same time,
229.55667535296251	233.24842620129257	O1	like when I watched their shows, I
234.0071494533659	235.02075639742102	O1	felt like.
236.41782341275638	242.95624907448064	O1	I felt like cause I also have sisters. I was able to relate to their relationship as sisters.
244.03682872441087	250.16568487976224	O1	Yeah, I felt like it was really similar and that's what I'm see. That's what I was trying to see when I felt like I c- connect with them
250.3056843303278	257.24975675158174	O1	because it was just so real and it I don't know. It felt organic the way, um, you know.
257.7354430018772	259.6210877834328	O1	The interacted on the show.
260.22292563693617	263.1059179832636	O2	I understand that and I agree.
266.8100010988687	274.1502758703894	O2	I think, but uh, to be a bit critical, they have lost that a
274.15892405050874	277.58557726911494	O2	relatability quite a bit as they've gone.
278.31000117735937	286.14455998076653	O2	As they become more and more famous, since you know they have like a very luxurious lifestyle right now
286.15442384860995	288.92107965740684	O2	and well, everyone is trying to.
289.16000109886875	293.0533323391188	O2	Emulate that kind of lifestyle, but the reality is that.
293.5774163149196	296.1799989796219	O2	No one really has the.
297.4127239261455	301.05666569861563	O2	you know financial stability to actually.
301.5200010988688	304.1233325745906	O2	Live like them or like they have.
307.27211330903253	309.22127217075223	O2	large mansion that they live in?
309.82323720924745	314.2133296704374	O2	so it kind of builds this barrier between the Watcher and.
314.6000010988687	316.4666658555969	O2	The celebrity but.
317.02333445836564	318.7899991366031	O2	Uh other than that?
322.61231619718257	324.4565296079506	O2	managed to stay relevant.
325.28000109886875	331.4066658555969	O1	I understand what you're saying. I feel like the first seasons were the best. If you I don't know if you watched the show.
333.32591008673586	339.87421302279046	O1	I kind of like action was never watching it when it was like let's say the first season was backing I don't even know when like
339.8853327708172	341.17199438792034	O1	Two thousand and one
342.0119910913141	342.6631083276407	O2	Three minutes.
342.67420203410296	346.6800023547187	O1	We maybe I never watched it in that time I watched it later on.
346.93306071042406	353.40924892875734	O1	So I kind of binge watched it and I feel like it was actually fun to watch it that way
353.42229237915984	357.34746826318536	O1	and I would definitely say that I like the spin offs and like the
357.3746791878579	362.2182237795843	O1	the first seasons were just the best because they were not that rich yet and they were just
362.30211527293534	366.499400403687	O1	I don't know. I feel I feel were more relatable to my lifestyle. Do you agree?
366.56062498420044	367.8350210051472	O2	Yeah, exactly.
370.44993172079614	372.277687397381	O1	So what do you think about?
372.9239468583557	374.9244901285491	O1	Celebrity lifestyle.
375.30748255976926	377.7800682792039	O1	Like is that a life that you would like to live?
378.6346934844419	386.09047499098955	O2	Well, I I mean I I couldn't tell you for sure without actually living it. Maybe for like a week or something.
386.515320792901	392.87813315445914	O2	But uh I think that everybody kind of glorifies that kind of lifestyle. You know, the
393.0073850466541	394.9529661607465	O2	the rock star lifestyle
397.38877690120546	400.38196676144327	O2	seems to happen to them and everything is just
400.39515109527053	401.22508429778543	O1	all good
401.48358808217534	405.32032846101487	O1	good and happy and just all about having a go- good time
406.0618261583437	409.55842997877545	O2	and well, I mean wha- that doesn't sound bad.
411.86909985661504	413.7738645836984	O2	The reality yeah.
414.2310880221057	420.33542867804783	O2	I I don't think so. I I think that a lot of celebrities struggle with their lifestyle.
421.9767359336831	424.94408193504466	O1	Do you have any examples of who you think that might be?
429.64780307316744	430.8901959472989	O1	Do you were know?
430.900856372611	436.6204593648382	O2	Um I I can't think of any right now specifically, but I know there there are many.
437.23428529093746	443.33632329502217	O2	That you know, going to a certain depression or get overwhelmed with
443.35439842216977	446.13671546994516	O2	all of a the attention on them.
446.48108802210567	454.48108802210567	O1	Well, I'm going back to the Kardashians. Sorry, I don't wanna keep talking about them like there's nothing else to talk about, but there are huge part of pop culture
455.0233676680575	456.10500192379413	O1	thing? yeah we, we could say
456.1072340699587	456.8963508854647	O2	That's true.
456.9598607584798	464.7920896255281	O1	So they I was watching this one interview on Instagram and Kylie was saying like I don't think
464.7943217716927	468.3861638284786	O1	I was born to be famous like my character is not.
469.580748107805	476.5222303055921	O1	Just someone who could, you know, take all the criticism and feel fine about it and just move on with life. She was like
476.5222303055921	484.5222303055921	O1	I'm not that person. I was not meant to be famous. My character is not, you know, fit for this kind of lifestyle. And then Courtney was like I definitely
484.7898339674022	488.919079932722	O1	was not supposed to be famous. And then Kim's like I was totally meant to be famous
489.8691888575122	492.9326913219335	O1	cause she, like you can tell like she actu- she she likes it. She likes.
492.9326913219335	499.9984437131448	O1	She likes it more than she hates it. I could say but I feel like maybe with Kylie maybe Kylie the most because she she was in it and.
500.0120610292314	503.7059440535396	O1	Such a young gay she was born into it so it's different ones like that I think
504.07428529093823	511.1355083897328	O1	Like whereas Courtney, she was already a certain age when they actually, you know, became so famous. So
511.1436145128349	512.5857935204838	O1	she got to live her life.
512.8410880221056	518.8682959833407	O1	Uh in a normal way, and then she became famous and she didn't really care if she's not the type to really care about
518.8682959833407	521.4066505530791	O1	the criticism. You know that people.
523.324693484442	524.9640819350446	O1	Do you and have on you.
526.4382306675744	530.6640819350447	O1	So yeah anything else you like to say.
532.3538785791518	537.7740819350447	O2	Um, let's talk about celebrity culture. And then you know the.
539.7354430739657	541.4708846662128	O2	I don't know, kind of.
543.1821092467262	546.1248983220536	O2	Uh putting celebrities on a pedestal.
546.5910880221056	550.4770061271075	O2	And you know the unhealthy glorification
550.4770061271075	557.747754194866	O1	Well, that's a a really good subject to actually talk about for me, because for um you know what, how I asked you like.
558.0810880221056	565.5450556645709	O1	Who's your celebrity crush or like you know who's your favorite celebrity? I honestly even in my childhood I remember when I was
565.5450556645709	572.8443862080013	O1	never like the fangirl type I would. I was never able to fangirl over anyone. I don't know why.
573.1981282287454	574.046184332263	O1	But I'm really
576.515575746303	583.5291797269206	O1	maybe it's not that it's just I feel like there are two human and there's no point in glorifying them so much. They're they're just like, uh you know
583.5291797269206	585.501983619436	O1	a person like me. That's how I feel
585.5223918129406	591.0439773753179	O1	that I can like their music, but I just I'm not able to glorify them as a person is what I'm trying to say.
591.0484948139842	596.0485022225782	O1	Like it's one thing to like, love their songs and even, you know, think that there are nice person. But I
596.0530196612445	602.8217371735589	O1	But then at the end of the day, you know they're just a human being like us. So I'm not really able to glorify them. And like fangirl over them.
603.5910880221056	605.7525174402308	O2	I think most people.
606.2242852909376	607.7953065155581	O2	That fangirl.
608.9157829882664	613.1804764727083	O2	Most people are fangirl uh or fanboy, obviously.
614.6498664050298	620.50587561415	O2	It happens when you are able to relate to a celebrity and well,
620.50587561415	622.62677289656	O2	celebrities usually show.
622.8810880221056	623.7288153458011	O2	Their best
625.1256605277748	630.112050620282	O2	to the you know media. So when you relate to them it's like
630.112050620282	633.8042170117336	O2	they are better versions of yourself.
634.0082989467783	637.3070667574386	O2	Kind of so you kind of look kind of look up to them,
637.3070667574386	637.8966190765664	O2	but I feel like
638.8285932466038	645.1823323039101	O2	how it is for me. I I mean, I I still remind myself and keep myself aware that
645.1959496199967	649.3196640184187	O2	it's not exactly how they are. It's only a version of themselves,
649.3373850386259	656.3476950977976	O2	but I think it's good to look up to someone's work and how they present themselves. And kind of like
658.8150407914202	660.7623652859961	O2	things from them and learn
660.78298382643	665.6718611838921	O1	why I one hundred percent agree with that, but for me it's just I always
665.6718611838921	673.1094289735046	O1	see the more human side of them the most and that's how, as I said, I'm not able to glorify them.
673.2390111559287	674.8216059449835	O1	And my head so.
675.0530855045605	676.8434572477198	O2	That's cool.