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Re: The Qur'an and atheists (was Re: Jewish Settlers Demolish a Mosque in Gaza)
In article <2944846190.2.p00261@psilink.com> "Robert Knowles" <p00261@psilink.com> writes:
::DATE: Sun, 25 Apr 1993 10:13:30 GMT
::FROM: Fred Rice <darice@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au:
::
::
::The Qur'an talks about those who take their lusts and worldly desires for
::their "god".
::
::I think this probably encompasses most atheists.
::
:: Fred Rice
:: darice@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
:
:As well as all the Muslim men screwing fourteen year old prostitutes in
:Thailand. Got a better quote?
:
I wonder if the above quote forms the justification for athiesm, and
the equanimity with which their belief is arrived at!!!!!
| 0alt.atheism |
Re: TRUE "GLOBE", Who makes it?
In article MJu@zoo.toronto.edu, henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) writes:
>In article <bill.047m@xpresso.UUCP> bill@xpresso.UUCP (Bill Vance) writes:
>>It has been known for quite a while that the earth is actually more pear
>>shaped than globular/spherical. Does anyone make a "globe" that is accurate
>>as to actual shape, landmass configuration/Long/Lat lines etc.?
>
>I don't think you're going to be able to see the differences from a sphere
>unless they are greatly exaggerated. Even the equatorial bulge is only
>about 1 part in 300 -- you'd never notice a 1mm error in a 30cm globe --
>and the other deviations from spherical shape are much smaller.
>--
>SVR4 resembles a high-speed collision | Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology
>between SVR3 and SunOS. - Dick Dunn | henry@zoo.toronto.edu utzoo!henry
I remember a physic prof. who talked about scaling a cue ball to Earth size.
Its was significantly less spherical that the Earth!
---
Terry F Figurelle Boeing Defense & Space Group
email: tff@plato.ds.boeing.com PO BOX 3999, Mail Stop 6J-EA
phone: 206-394-3115 fax:206-394-4300 Seattle, WA 98124-2499
--
Terry F Figurelle Boeing Defense & Space Group
email: tff@plato.ds.boeing.com PO BOX 3999, Mail Stop 6J-EA
phone: 206-394-3115 fax:206-394-4300 Seattle, WA 98124-2499
| 14sci.space |
Re: Who Says the Apostles Were Tortured?
The traditions of the church hold that all the "apostles" (meaning the 11
surviving disciples, Matthias, Barnabas and Paul) were martyred, except for
John. "Tradition" should be understood to read "early church writings other
than the bible and heteroorthodox scriptures".
--
C. Wingate + "The peace of God, it is no peace,
+ but strife closed in the sod.
mangoe@cs.umd.edu + Yet, brothers, pray for but one thing:
tove!mangoe + the marv'lous peace of God."
| 0alt.atheism |
Re: Boston Gun Buy Back
>Ron Miller wrote:
>When you ask the question of the "authorities" or sponsors of buyback
>programs whether they will check for stolen weapons and they answer
>"no, it's total amnesty".
(good point about registration schemes being used only for harassment deleted)
I would also like to point out that this is receiving stolen property and is
no different than a pawn shop owner doing the same thing.
Myron Petro
NRA, USPSA
DVC y'all
**************************************************************************
The opinions included in this post are my sole responsibility.
And are protected by the First Amendment and guarnteed by the
Second Amendment.
| 16talk.politics.guns |
Re: pink tools [was: Re: What is it with girlfriends and motorcycles?]
I ONLY Just prevented myself from diving in on this one.....
| 8rec.motorcycles |
Analgesics with Diuretics
I sometimes see OTC preparations for muscle aches/back aches that
combine aspirin with a diuretic. The idea seems to be to reduce
inflammation by getting rid of fluid. Does this actually work?
Thanks,
-Larry C.
| 13sci.med |
Text field in dialog widget doesn't get focus
I am using the GLX widget + athena widgets on a mixed-model
application, under 4Dwm, but when the dialog gets popped up, its
text entry field does not have focus. Aimilar code works perfectly if
I use "pure X" (no mixed-model). HEre is the relevant portion of
the code.
{
int n;
Arg wargs[16];
Widget Button, PopUpShell, Dialog;
/* initialize TopLevel here */
.
.
.
n = 0;
XtSetArg(wargs[n], XtNlabel, "Foo"); n++;
Button = XtCreateManagedWidget("FooBtn", commandWidgetClass,
TopLevel, wargs, n);
PopUpShell = XtCreatePopupShell("PupShell", overrideShellWidgetClass,
Button, NULL, 0);
XtAddCallback(PopUpShell, XtNcallback, MyPopUp, (XtPointer)PopUpShell);
n = 0;
XtSetArg(wargs[n], XtNvalue, ""); n++;
Dialog = XtCreateManagedWidget("TheDialog", dialogWidgetClass,
PopUpShell, wargs, n);
.
.
.
}
void MyPopUp(w, popup_shell, call_data)
Widget w;
Widget popup_shell;
XtPointer call_data;
{
XtPopup(popup_shell, XtGrabExclusive);
}
---
A way I found to give focus to the text field is to move the
application window around a little bit and place it right behind the popup.
Any pointers would be greatly appreciated.
| 5comp.windows.x |
Re: ATF BURNS DIVIDIAN RANCH! NO SURVIVORS!!!
In article <1r19tp$5em@bigboote.WPI.EDU>, mfrhein@wpi.WPI.EDU (Michael Frederick Rhein) writes:
> In article <93109.13404334AEJ7D@CMUVM.BITNET> <34AEJ7D@CMUVM.BITNET> writes:
>>I will be surprised if this post makes it past the censors,
>>but here goes:
>>
> In short Mr. Gorman (I am assuming Mr. as a title because I don't think a
>woman would be stupid enough to make this post) I don't know what episode of CNN you
^^^^^
What an incrediblt sexist remark! Come now, Mike, what ever possessed you to
make such a un-PC remark? I hope all women out there reading this are as
incensed as I am. Remember, WOMAN ARE JUST AS GOOD AS MEN!!!!
Women stand up for your right to be just as stupid as men. In fact, insist on
every oppurtunity to be even more stupid than men! You've got the right, use
it!
Hey, it's a slow afternoon and I really don't want to get back to that
report...;)
BTW: mega-smileys for the humor impaired...
Karl
| 16talk.politics.guns |
Re: Electricty
In article <66795@mimsy.umd.edu>, leavitt@cs.umd.edu (Mr. Bill) writes...
>maven@mavenry.altcit.eskimo.com (Norman Hamer) writes:
>NH> 1) Trying to figure out a way to put a halogen beam on my CB360T... Are
>NH>there any easy ways to do this (i.e. a "slip-in" bulb replacement)?
>No. The Honda 360s employed a sealed beam which was not interchangeable
>with anything else, so far as I could ever tell. I've owned two 360s
>over the years, and that was always one of my biggest nits.
I'm not sure how far standardisation went, but on two of my bikes (the
GS550B and, I think, the GT380M) I was able to pop a Cibie' insert directly
into the original housing (held in by those roughly W-shaped springs). The
inserts used 55/60W halogen bulbs, and were great, although Mr Bill later
indicates that this may be too much of a drain on your charging system.
Ivan Reid, Paul Scherrer Institute, CH. ivan@cvax.psi.ch
GSX600F, RG250WD. SI=2.66 "You Porsche. Me pass!" DoD #484
| 8rec.motorcycles |
Re: Who's next? Mormons and Jews?
In hallam@dscomsa.desy.de (Phill Hallam-Baker) writes:
The founding fathers of the US were hardly great on religious freedoms. At
least one history I have read formed the opinion that they left for the
US not to practice religious freedom but to practice religious intolerance.
Sigh, see what our school systems are producing? Total confusion!
The original English settlers were, probably, the most intolerant lot
of people to ever assemble. However, the Founding Fathers
(Washington, Jefferson, Madison, etc.), practically made it their
life's work to ensure that religious intolerance would not destroy
their great experiment... a democratic republic.
I strongly suggest that those interested get some of Jefferson's and
Madison's writings. Particularly good is Madison's "(something)and
Remonstrance", [yea, I'm litterate and have functioning memory cells
:-( ]. IMHO, Jefferson and Madison were the two greatest American's
who ever lived. Although both were products of their time (Jefferson
was a slave owner), they were able to see more clearly than their
contemporaries, and for that matter, more clearly than most modern
politicians. Their prose is the epitome of eloquence. I don't know
about y'all, but reading the Declaration of Independence give me
mental goosebumps. (For those who have never read it, I am appending a
copy of it.)
--
In CONGRESS, July 4, 1776
The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one
people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with
another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and
equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle
them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they
should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created
equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable
Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of
Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted
among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the
governed. That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of
these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it,
and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such
principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall
seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence,
indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be
changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience
hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are
sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which
they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations,
pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them
under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to
throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future
security.
Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is
now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems
of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a
history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct
object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To
prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.
He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary
for the public good.
He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing
importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should
be obtained, and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend
to them.
He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large
districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of
Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and
formidable to tyrants only.
He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual,
uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public
Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with
his measures.
He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with
manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.
He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause
others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of
Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise;
the State remaining in the meantime exposed to all the dangers of
invasion from without, and convulsions within.
He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that
purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners;
refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and
raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.
He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his
Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.
He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of
their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.
He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of
Officers to harass our people, and eat out their substance.
He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies, without the
consent of our legislatures.
He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to
the Civil power.
He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to
our constitution and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to
their Acts of pretended Legislation:
For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
For protecting them by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders
which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:
For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:
For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
For depriving us in many cases of the benefits of Trial by Jury:
For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences:
For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring
Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and
enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example
and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into
these Colonies:
For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws and
altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:
For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested
with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.
He has abdicated Government here by declaring us out of his Protection
and waging War against us.
He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and
destroyed the lives of our people.
He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to
complete the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun
with circumstances of cruelty and perfidy scarcely paralleled in the
most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized
nation.
He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas
to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of
their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.
He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured
to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian
Savages, whose known rule of warfare is an undistinguished destruction
of all ages, sexes and conditions.
In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in
the most humble terms. Our repeated Petitions have been answered only
by repeated injury. A Prince, whose character is thus marked by every
act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free
people.
Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our British brethren.
We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature
to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us.
We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and
settlement here.
We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity,
and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow
these usurpations, which would inevitably interrupt our connections
and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice
and of consanguinity.
We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our
Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies
in War, in Peace Friends.
We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in
General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the
world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by the
authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and
declare. That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be
Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all
Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection
between them and the State of Great Britain is and ought to be totally
dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full
Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish
Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States
may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm
reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to
each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor.
New Hampshire: Josiah Bartlett, William Whipple, Matthew Thornton
Massachusetts: John Hancock, Samual Adams, John Adams, Robert Treat Paine,
Elbridge Gerry
Rhode Island: Stephen Hopkins, William Ellery
Connecticut: Roger Sherman, Samuel Huntington, William Williams, Oliver Wolcott
New York: William Floyd, Philip Livingston, Francis Lewis, Lewis Morris
New Jersey: Richard Stockton, John Witherspoon, Francis Hopkinson, John Hart,
Abraham Clark
Pennsylvania: Robert Morris, Benjamin Rush, Benjamin Franklin, John Morton,
George Clymer, James Smith, George Taylor, James Wilson, George Ross
Delaware: Caesar Rodney, George Read, Thomas McKean
Maryland: Samuel Chase, William Paca, Thomas Stone,
Charles Carroll of Carrollton
Virginia: George Wythe, Richard Henry Lee, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Harrison,
Thomas Nelson, Jr., Francis Lightfoot Lee, Carter Braxton
North Carolina: William Hooper, Joseph Hewes, John Penn
South Carolina: Edward Rutledge, Thomas Heyward, Jr., Thomas Lynch, Jr.,
Arthur Middleton
Georgia: Button Gwinnett, Lyman Hall, George Walton
--
Gerry Roston (gerry@cmu.edu) | I cannot conceive of a God who rewards and
Field Robotics Center, | punishes his creatures, or has a will of
Carnegie Mellon University | the type of which we are conscious in
Pittsburgh, PA, 15213 | ourselves. An individual who should
(412) 268-3856 | survive his physical death is also beyond
| my comprehension,...; such notions are for
The opinions expressed are mine | the fears or absurd egoism of feeble souls.
and do not reflect the official | Albert Einstein
position of CMU, FRC, RedZone, |
or any other organization. |
| 18talk.politics.misc |
Re: Can DES code be shipped to Canada?
In article <1993Apr22.125402.27561@fripp.ri.cadre.com> rj@ri.cadre.com writes:
>Someone in Canada asked me to send him some public domain DES file
>encryption code I have. Is it legal for me to send it?
I believe it is illegal to send any cryptographic code out of the country
without an export license. (Others will correct me if this is inaccurate.)
Dunno if you'd get one for the particular code you have; the only way to
find out is to apply for a license.
Note that you need to distinguish between what is legal to send to Canada if
YOU have such a license, and what is legal to send if you don't.
--
David Sternlight Great care has been taken to ensure the accuracy of
our information, errors and omissions excepted.
| 11sci.crypt |
male/female mystery [ Re: Dumbest automotive concepts of all time ]
In article <1993Apr1.191826.28921@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com> sharen@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com (Sharen A. Rund) writes:
<apparently you're not a woman - my husband hates the auto door locks
>features, but forgets that besides families with children, a woman
<feels safer in a car that locks easily (in addition to watching around
>& checking out if anyone's near me when I get to my car - never park
<in a secluded spot, etc - have my keys ready to open the door so I'm
>not fumbling in my purse looking for them ....
This has me thinking. Is there a biological reason why women can't put
their keys in their pants pockets like men do? I have two pockets on the
back of each of my pants. I put my keys in one and wallent in another.
Many of the pockets even have a botton on them so I can close them securely.
Everything is that much simpler for me. Why can't women do the same?
Is is biological (ie, not enough room for a bigger bottom plus keys and
a wallet) or is it the way they are raised by the parents?
| 7rec.autos |
Re: Gun Lovers (was Re: My Gun is like my American Express Card)
/ iftccu:talk.politics.guns / vincent@cad.gatech.edu (Vincent Fox) / 10:34 am Apr 14, 1993 /
This isn't rec.guns, so maybe this is getting a bet technical, but I
can't resist....
> - A revolver also has the advantage that if it misfires you just pull
> the trigger again.
Sometimes..... Depends on WHY it misfired....
> - A double-action revolver (almost all of them) can be hand-cocked first,
> but will fire merely by pulling the trigger.
I can't imagine doing much combat type shooting single action.....
> - A misfire in a revolver merely means you must pull the trigger again
> to rotate to the next round.
Assuming the cylinder WILL rotate....
> - A revolver can be carried with the 6th chamber empty and under the
> hammer for maximum safety, but still can be drawn and fired with an
> easy motion, even one handed.
Never hurts to err on the side of safety, but if you've got one of those
'new fangled' hammer blocks or transfer bar safeties, it's unnecessarily
redundant. I'd rather have the extra round.
> - Speedloaders for a revolver allow reloads almost as fast as magazines
> on semi-autos. Can be faster depending on users.
Quite true. Speed loaders are a little less convenient to pack around
than magazines though.
> - A misfire in a semi-auto will require you to clear a jammed shell
> first, time spent which can be fatal. And a vital second or so is often
> lost as you realize "hey, it's jammed!" before starting to do anything
> about clearing it.
True, but this is a training function.
> - Most semi-autos must have the slide worked to chamber the first round
> and cock the hammer. Some police carry their semi-autos with the
> chamber loaded and hammer cocked, but a safety engaged. I do not consider
> this safe however. You must trade-off safety to get the same speed
> of employment as a revolver.
Cocked and locked for single actions or hammer down on double actions
are the only carry modes that make sense... The 80 series Colt's for
example are quite safe to carry this way.
> - There are some double-action semi-autos out there, but the complexity of
> operation of many of them requires more training.
Agreed.
Now that I've shot off my mouth a bit, let me back some of this up. It
is true that a simple misfire on a revolver doesn't cost you much. On
the other hand, I've had all sorts of interesting things happen over the
years. For example, I've had FACTORY ammunition that has had high
primers. A high primer will tie your revolver up somewhere from seconds
to minutes while you try to pound the action open to clear the problem.
An auto? Jack the slide and continue.
I've had bullets come out of the case, keeping the cylinder from
turning, see clearing paragraph above. About the WORST that can happen
with a semi auto is a double feed. This can be cleared in seconds.
Most revolvers are more 'fragile' then semi auto's. There are all sorts
of close tolerance parts and fitting involved. Dropping the gun, or a
blow to the gun or all sorts of things can take it out of action. Many
of the problems that can be cured on the spot with a (quality) semi auto
take a gun smith for a revolver. In short a revolver MAY be less likely
to malfunction, but as a rule when it does, you're out of the fight.
The majority of malfunctions that occur with semi autos does not fall
into that category.
Vincint makes many good points in this post, but leaves off the opposing
view of most of them. A real good starting place is Ayoob's "The Semi
Auto Pistol for Police and Self Defense."
In general, I'd agree, the revolver is an excellent first gun and self
defense weapon for somebody that does not have the time, and inclination
that is necessary for the training and practice needed to use a semi
auto effectively as a self defense arm.
Most cops are notoriously indifferent to firearms. If the department
isn't going to train them, they aren't going to take the time on their
own. There is no doubt that training is an issue. The amount of
training required for effective use of a semi auto is probably several
times that of a revolver. Many cops don't bother.
For myself, I'd hate to be limited to one or the other. I'd rather pick
what fits better with my personal inclination, what I'm wearing that day
and so on. Like the Moderator on rec.guns says, buy em all!
That said, I have to admit that often my advice to people thinking of
buying their first defense arm is (right after taking a class) get a
Ruger or Smith revolver.... (Sorry Colt fans. Colt revolvers are ok
too!)
If this post had gone the other way, I'd be arguing for revolvers. :-)
Rick.
| 16talk.politics.guns |
Re: Faith and Dogma
marshall@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Kevin Marshall) <1r2eba$hsq@csugrad.cs.vt.edu>
wrote:
>I don't necessarily disagree with your assertion, but I disagree with
>your reasoning. (Faith = Bad. Dogma = Bad. Religion -> (Faith ^ Dogma).
>Religion -> (Bad ^ Bad). Religion -> Bad.) Unfortunately, you never
>state why faith and dogma are dangerous.
Faith and dogma are dangerous because they cause people to act on
faith alone, which by its nature is without justification. That
is what I mean by the word ``faith'': belief without justification, or
belief with arbitrary justification, or with emotional (irrational)
justification.
For example, when someone says that God exists, that they don't know
why they believe God exists, they can just feel it, that's faith.
Dogma is bad because it precludes positive change in belief based
on new information, or increased mental faculty.
>
>So Christians are totally irrational? Irrational with respect to their
>religion only? What are you saying? One's belief in a Christian God does
>not make one totally irrational. I think I know what you were getting at,
>but I'd rather hear you expand on the subject.
Faith and dogma are irrational. The faith and dogma part of any religion
are responsible for the irrationality of the individuals. I claim that
faith and dogma are the quintessential part of any religion. If that
makes (the much overused in this context) Buddism a philosophy rather
than a religion, I can live with that. Science is not a religion,
because there is no faith nor dogma.
>
>>A philosopher cannot be a Christian because a philosopher can change his mind,
>>whereas a Christian cannot, due to the nature of faith and dogma present
>>in any religion.
>
>Again, this statement is too general. A Christian is perfectly capable of
>being a philosopher, and absolutely capable of changing his/her mind. Faith in
>God is a belief, and all beliefs may change. Would you assert that atheists
>would make poor philosophers because they are predisposed to not believe in a
>God which, of course, may show unfair bias when studying, say, religion?
Have you noticed that philosophers tend to be atheists? If a philosopher
is not an atheist, s/he tends to be called a theologian.
A Christian tends to consider Christianity sacred. Christianity is
a special set of beliefs, sanctioned by God himself, and therefore,
to conceive of changing those beliefs is to question the existence
of That Being Who Makes No Mistakes. Faith comes into play. Dogma
comes into play. ``The lord works in mysterious ways'' is an example
of faith being used to reconcile evidence that the beliefs are flawed.
Sure, interpretations of what ``God said'' are changed to satisfy the
needs of society, but when God says something, that's it. It was said,
and that's that. Since God said it, it is unflawed, even if the
interpretations are flawed.
Science, (as would be practiced by atheists) in contrast, has a
BUILT IN defence against faith and dogma.
A scientist holds sacred the idea that beliefs should change to
suit whatever is the best information available at the time, AND,
*AND*, ****AND***, a scientist understands that any current beliefs
are deficient in some way. The goal is to keep improving
the beliefs. The goal is to keep changing the beliefs to reflect
the best information currently available. That's the only rational
thing to do. That's good philosophy.
Can you see the difference? Science views beliefs as being flawed,
and new information can be obtained to improve them. (How many
scientists would claim to have complete and perfect understanding
of everything? None---it would put them out of a job!) Religion
views its beliefs as being perfect, and the interpretations of
those beliefs must be changed as new information is acquired which
conflicts with them.
>
>Please explain how "just because" thinking kills people. (And please
>state more in your answer than "Waco.")
It's easier for someone to kill a person when s/he doesn't require
a good rational justification of the killing. I don't consider
``he's Jewish'', or ``he was born of Jewish parents'', or
``this document says he's Jewish'' to be good rational justification.
>By the way, I wasn't aware mass suicide
>was a problem. Waco and Jonestown were isolated incidents.
>Mass suicides are far from common.
Clinton and the FBI would love for you to convince them of this.
It would save the US taxpayer a lot of money if you could.
Todd
| 0alt.atheism |
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Re: How to the disks copy protected.
: Nothing, but if you read my WHOLE suggestion, I'm saying that you register
: via MAIL by mailing in your registration card, THEN the company send you
: the patch which includes the info you put on the registration card.
The problem with this scheme, is that when I buy a game, I want to play it
*THAT* day...mailing a card to and from California would probably take a week
or more.
--
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| |
| jmiller@terra.colostate.edu | Jeff Miller | TERRA Lab Systems Admin. |
|_____________________________________________________________________________|
| 12sci.electronics |
Re: Once tapped, your code is no good any more.
In article <Apr18.194927.17048@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> holland@CS.ColoState.EDU (douglas craig holland) writes:
> With E-Mail, if they can't break your PGP encryption, they'll just
>call up one of their TEMPEST trucks and read the electromagnetic emmisions
>from your computer or terminal. Note that measures to protect yourself from
>TEMPEST surveillance are still classified, as far as I know.
Note that TEMPEST is the name of the shielding standard. TEMPEST is not
the name of the surveillance technique.
Ken Shirriff shirriff@sprite.Berkeley.EDU
Disclaimer: this is what I've heard and it's in the sci.crypt FAQ, so it's
probably true but I can't guarantee it. I'd like to know if I'm wrong.
| 11sci.crypt |
Re: TIGERS
Woof woof!
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
David Shapiro | "People can call it a monkey, but I felt like
shapiro-david@yale.edu | I had a piano on my back all winter long....
shapiro@minerva.cis.yale.edu | The piano is off my back. Maybe a trombone
| will be next." -- Stan Belinda
| 9rec.sport.baseball |
Re: Centris 610 flaky?
scott@cs.uiuc.edu (Jay Scott) writes:
>A rep at the dealer (actually it's a university order center, so
>they don't have any immediate financial interest), told me that
>they have been having lots of problems with their Centris 610.
>He didn't go into details, but mentioned problems with the
>floppy drive and intermittent problems with printing files.
>It sounded to me like they were having both hardware problems
>and software compatibility problems with the machine.
>He's not recommending the Centris 610 to anybody; he says to
>consider a Centris 650 or a IIvx. (Why he would recommend a
>IIvx over an LCIII I don't know, but that's what he said.)
>So, what does the net think? Did the dealer just get one flaky
>machine, or did Apple send the C610 out the door too early?
>Is your C610 working just great, or is it buggy too?
My 610 is working great. I haven't heard of any problems. Sounds
to me like your dealer doesn't know what he's talking about. It's
pretty irresponsible to not reccomend the Centris 610 on the basis
of problems with one machine. Recommending the IIvx over the LCIII
doesn't make a lot of sense either. If this person is so convinced the 610
is buggy have they talked to Apple about it or are they just assuming
it's a problem with all of them?
-Terry
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
Re: Is car saftey important?
i of course car safety is important.. I for one used to think that these
guys are going way OTT with their airtbags (sorry del button dont work) and
side impact bars and crash zones and (the list goes on) just tpo make the
car heavbier (and all its penalties) ... bur recently I had a little accident (on
my bike) and not as bad as John's ..... but after the accident - it made me
realizer I should have worn a helmet (my mom always insistede I should... I was
more concerned about my hair style).....
A few days agi - I read a report in which the old Rea.. Rea shit - Renault 5
had an accident and its roof caved INWARDS and crushed the occupents heads...
| 7rec.autos |
Re: PC parallel I (!= I/O)
erickson@azure.nmt.edu (Alan Erickson) writes:
> I'm trying to bring in 8+ bits to a PC, and would like
> to use interrupt-driven routines. Without buying an IO
> board or making a new port, _where_ can I bring in these
> bits? LPT seems to have only a few inputs, but I've heard
> rumours that some LPTs have bidirectional lines. Anybody
> know fer sure? If any bi-d LPTs, which boards have them
> (I'll be running a new 386DX-33)?
Yes, it is possible. I'm making a 7 stepper controller board,
with 7 digital inputs, and (up to) 18 digital outputs from the // port.
One main thing that will tell you whether the // port is
bi-directional or not is the bus tranceiver on it. Look for a chip
numbered 74LS245. If you don't have this, then it's probably a 74LS244,
which will do you NO good for reading in.
Now, if you do have the '245 then do the following:
First, find the address of the port, (decimal) either 888, or 632.
In pascal, you would "Write(Port[xxx]);" where xxx is the address in
either hex or decimal. The status lines, pins 14, 16, 17, as well as the
strobe, pin 1, are bi-directional lines, and are read by base address +2,
so for 888, to read from status, then read from 890. You can also output
to these lines in the same fashion as to the data lines. In pascal,
do "Port[xxx]:=value
".
Hope this helps.
Let me know if you need more help.
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Inspiration | ___ |
comes to | \ o baden@sys6626.bison.mb.ca |
those who | ( ^ ) baden@inqmind.bison.mb.ca |
seek the | /-\ =] Baden de Bari [= |
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| 12sci.electronics |
Wrecked BMW
Do you or does anyone you know have a wrecked 1981 or later R80(anything)
or R100(anything) that they are interested in getting rid of? I need
a motor, but will buy a whole bike.
email replies to: David.Braun@FtCollinsCO.NCR.com
or: dab@vuse.vanderbilt.edu
or phone: 303/223-5100 x9487 (voice mail)
303/229-0952 (home)
| 8rec.motorcycles |
Re: A KIND and LOVING God!!
In article <1993Apr21.182606.6798@ra.royalroads.ca>
mlee@post.RoyalRoads.ca (Malcolm Lee) writes:
>The only point I'm trying to make is that those who call themselves Christian
>may not be Christian.
WOW! Are you serious! So not everyone who calls themself a Christian is
a Christian? WOW! That does make things a bit more complicated doesn't it?
>I ask that you draw your own conclusions by what they do and what they say.
That seems like very good advice, given the above revelation.
>If they are not modelled after the example of Jesus
>Christ then they are NOT Christian.
Like for example Matthew 5:14-19 right?
>If they have not repented of their sins
>and accepted Jesus Christ as their personal Lord and Saviour then they are
>NOT Christian.
Um, where did Jesus say that he wanted people to worship him?
>These are the only criteria to being a Christian.
So, do you adhere to the Ten Commandments?
| 19talk.religion.misc |
Origin of Morphine
I am sorry to once again bother those of you on this newsgroup.
If you have any suggestions as to where I might find out about the subject
of this letter (the origin of Morphine, ie. who first isolsted it, and why
he/she attempted such an experiment). Once agian any suggestion would be
appreciated.
CSH
p.s. My instructer insists that I get 4 rescources from this newsgroup, so
please send me and info you think may be helpful. Facts that you know,
but don't know what book they're from are ok.
ATTENTION: If you do NOT like seeing letters such as this one on your
newsgroup direct all complaints to my instructor at <bshayler@eis.CalStat.Edu>
--
"Kilimanjaro is a pretty tricky climb. Most of it's up, until you reach
the very, very top, and then it tends to slope away rather sharply."
Sir George Head, OBE (JC)
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
LOGIC: "The point is frozen, the beast is dead, what is the difference?"
Gavin Millarrrrrrrrrr (JC)
| 13sci.med |
New Study Out On Gay Percentage
From the Santa Rosa (Cal.) Press-Democrat, April 15, 1993, p. B2:
Male sex survey: Gay activity low
A new natonal study on male sexual behavior, the most thorough
examination of American men's sexual practices published since
the Kinsey report more than four decades ago, shows about 2
percent of the men surveyed had engaged in homosexual sex and
1 percent considered themselves exclusively homosexual.
The figures on homosexuality in the study released Wednesday
by the Alan Guttmacher Institute are significantly lower than
the 10 percent figure that has been part of the conventional
wisdom since it was published in the Kinsey report.
The article also contains numbers on the number of sexual partners.
The median number of sexual partners for all men 20-39 was 7.3.
Compared to the table I have already posted from Masters, Johnson,
and Kolodny showing male homosexual partners, it is apparent that
homosexual men are dramatically more promiscuous than the general
male population. It's a shame that we don't have a breakdown for
straight men vs. gay/bi men -- that would show even more dramatically
how much more promiscuous gay/bi men are.
--
Clayton E. Cramer {uunet,pyramid}!optilink!cramer My opinions, all mine!
Relations between people to be by mutual consent, or not at all.
| 18talk.politics.misc |
Re: Who's next? Mormons and Jews?
In article <C5s5n0.DyJ@world.std.com> rjk@world.std.com (Robert J. Kolker) writes:
>Thank you for remembering Matzada. Matzada was not an insane act. It was
>a sanctification of G_D's name and the most extreme denial of tyranny
>possible. To this day the officers of the Tzahal (Isreal Defense Force)
>take their oath at the fortress. Lo Tepol Shaynit Matzadah. Matzadah will
>not fall again!
>
>Conan the Libertarian
This is hilarious. Here we have a self-described libertarian
getting all sentimental over a religious and national entity
not exactly known for respecting individualism. In somewhat
more detail it should be noted that the whole concept of a
religion, and especially a patriarchial one like Judaism
(or Islam, or Christianity) is obediance to rules and authority.
Leviticus, Deuteronomy, etc are FULL of "thou shalt"s and "thou
shalt not"s. And of course Israel's concept of human rights, while
no doubt better than places like Syria's or Iraqs, is hardly the
stuff to warm the cockles of a libertarian's heart.
---peter
| 16talk.politics.guns |
Re: Homosexuality issues in Christianity
Darin Johnson (djohnson@cs.ucsd.edu) wrote:
: Ok, what's more important to gay Christians? Sex, or Christianity?
: Christianity I would hope. Would they be willing to forgo sex
: completely, in order to avoid being a stumbling block to others,
: to avoid the chance that their interpretation might be wrong,
: etc? If not, why not? Heterosexuals abstain all the time.
: (It would be nice if protestant churches had celibate orders
: to show the world that sex is not the important thing in life)
The difference is that straight members are given the choice of
abstaining or not, and celibacy is recognized as a gift, given only
to some. Gays are told that, as a condition of acceptance, they
_must_ be celibate. I don't believe that God gives me a forced choice
between having a relationship with God and expressing my heterosexuality
(within the context of a faithful relationship). Nor do I believe
that God gives that forced choice to gays. Sex or Christianity is a
false dichotomy.
: To tell the truth, gay churches remind me a lot of Henry the VIII
: starting the Church of England in order to get a divorce (or is
: this a myth). Note that I am not denying that gay Christians are
: Christian.
For my part, gay churches remind me of blacks starting their own churches
either because they were not allowed at all in the white churches, or, at
best, only with special restrictions that did not apply to white members.
revdak@netcom.com
| 15soc.religion.christian |
Re: Societally acceptable behavior
In article <C5qGM3.DL8@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, cobb@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Mike Cobb) writes:
>Merely a question for the basis of morality
>
>Moral/Ethical behavior = _Societally_ _acceptable_ _behavior_.
I disagree with these. What society thinks should be irrelevant. What the
individual decides is all that is important.
>
>1)Who is society
I think this is fairly obvious
>
>2)How do "they" define what is acceptable?
Generally by what they "feel" is right, which is the most idiotic policy I can
think of.
>
>3)How do we keep from a "whatever is legal is what is "moral" "position?
By thinking for ourselves.
>
>MAC
>--
>****************************************************************
> Michael A. Cobb
> "...and I won't raise taxes on the middle University of Illinois
> class to pay for my programs." Champaign-Urbana
> -Bill Clinton 3rd Debate cobb@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu
>
>With new taxes and spending cuts we'll still have 310 billion dollar deficits.
| 0alt.atheism |
PowerPC ruminations; was Re: LCIII->PowerPC?
In article <186177@pyramid.pyramid.com>, andrem@pyrtech.mis.pyramid.com (Andre Molyneux) writes:
> In article <1qksuq$1tt8@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu>, mirsky@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu
> (David Joshua Mirsky) writes:
> |> Hi. I own an LCIII and I recently heard an interesting rumor.
> |> I heard that the LCIII has a built in slot for a PowerPC chip.
> |> Is this true? I heard that the slot is not the same as the PDS
> |> slot. Is that true?
> |>
> |> Thanks
> |> David Mirsky
> |> mirsky@gnu.ai.mit.edu
>
> Well, I also have an LC III. Popping the top revealed:
>
> One "socket" for an additional VRAM SIMM
>
> One "socket" for a 72-pin RAM SIMM
>
> One socket for a flat-pack FPU
>
> A processor-direct slot (PDS) identical to the LC/LC II, but with
> an additional set of connetions to one side (for the full 32-bit
> data path that the LC/LC II lacked
>
> That's it. I guess a board with a PowerPC chip could be made that would fit
> in the PDS, but that's the only place.
>
So, will it be possible to have a NuBus or PDS PowerPC upgrade, or will it
require a logic board swap? It would be interesting for Apple to come out with
a NuBus PowerPC that allowed use of the CPU's 680x0, like RocketShare. But I
guess that's getting a bit fantastic!
I was wondering, since MacWeek reported that developers were 'seeded' with
PowerPCs on a NuBus card.
Also, any word on machine arrivals or estimated speed? Last I heard, the
estimates were around 3-4 times the speed of a Quadra in native RISC mode. I
heard an Apple employee mumble something about the arrival of PowerPC machines
at a much earlier date that Q1 94, but I doubt it's true.
Finally, is the PowerPC developer's CD 'mini-course' available? I saw it
advertised in the developer's university calendar, and I'd like to know if it's
at all *interesting*.
Sean
--------------
seanmcd@ac.dal.ca
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
Re: HELP: Problem w/ 14.4K modem & Win3.1 [ANSWER]
In article <C5J2M2.312@acsu.buffalo.edu> dudek@acsu.buffalo.edu (The Cybard) writes:
>From: dudek@acsu.buffalo.edu (The Cybard)
>Subject: Re: HELP: Problem w/ 14.4K modem & Win3.1 [ANSWER]
>Keywords: modem, terminal, windows
>Date: 15 Apr 93 13:53:59 GMT
>First of all, thank you all for the replies! The question and answer follow:
>
>dudek@acsu.buffalo.edu (The Cybard) writes:
>
>>I just purchased an Infotel 144/DF Internal 14.4 Kpbs modem for my
>>486DX-33. I have a Logitech bus-mouse on IRQ-5, a SoundBlaster on IRQ-7,
>>and an I/O card with LPT1, COM1, COM2, and a game port. The modem is set
>>to COM4 and IRQ-3. The modem works with the Quick-Link_II software that it
>>came with, but I can't get it to work with the Terminal accessory that is
>>included with Windows 3.1. It gives me an error that some other device is
>>using COM4. What is the problem? How do I fix it?
>
>The problem was that windows checks all com ports upon startup. Both COM4
>and COM2 use IRQ-3, so windows considers this a conflict. Quick-Link
>somehow is not bothered by this. My solution was to disable COM2, since I
>have no need for it. (I don't even use COM1!)
>
I have precisely the same problem with my P.C. Logic 2400 (crap) modem!
All the DOS packages work fine, none of the Windows ones do.
OK, so how do I dissable COM2!!!!
Help!
Gary Donald Mills
| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
Re: Atheists and Hell
atterlep@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Cardinal Ximenez) writes:
>1) Atheists believe that when they die, they die forever.
>2) A god who would condemn those who fail to believe in him to eternal death
> is unfair.
> I don't see what the problem is! To Christians, Hell is, by definition,
>eternal death--exactly what atheists are expecting when they die.
Well, I think that most Christians believe that your conciousness will
somehow continue on after your 'physical' death, which contradicts what
most atheists (myself included) believe, namely that your conciousness,
being contained in your brain, dies when your brain dies.
>There's no
>reason Hell has to be especially awful--to most people, eternal death is bad
>enough.
I fear the pain that often comes with the process of dying, but since I
won't be around to worry about it, I don't fear eternal death.
> Literal interpreters of the Bible will have a problem with this view, since
>the Bible talks about the fires of Hell and such.
This is something I've always found confusing. If all your nerve endings
die with your physical body, why would flame hurt you? How can one "wail
and gnash teeth" with no lungs and no teeth?
Mark Schnitzius
schnitzi@eola.cs.ucf.edu
University of Central Florida
| 15soc.religion.christian |
Visuallib (3D graphics for Windows)
I am currently looking for a 3D graphics library that runs on MS
Windows 3.1. Are there any such libraries out there other than
Visuallib? (It must run on VGA and should not require any other
add-on graphics cards).
For Visuallib, will it run with Metaware High C compiler v3.0? Any
email contact for the author of Visuallib?
Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks.
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* Phone: (65) 772-0237 | Singapore (0511) *
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| 1comp.graphics |
Re: viewing postscript files under X windows
On the subject of ghostscript, it will also solve the earlier request
of converting postscript to HPGL to filter into Interleaf.
--
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(206) 543-0945 UUCP: uw-beaver!atmos.washington.edu!warren
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University of Washington
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SeaLUG DECUS Vice Chair
| 5comp.windows.x |
R5 table widget causing trouble with XtQueryGeometry
Contents:Problems with table widgets in R5
The following part of a program (an user interface for a simulation
system) did work in R4, but refused to in R5. Of cause, the R4-version
did not know about the xpTableWidgetClass (we used tableWidgetClass instead - caught from the net in times of R3) and XpTableChildPosition (formerly XtTblPosition).
Since compiling with R5, the program causes a zero width or height error
(on sparc-stations). The trouble-shooter is the (re)computation of the
model_init_table - table widget: though its childs (label and asciiText
widgets) exist, XtQueryGeometry returns a prefered width and height of zero.
Thus the following asignment cannot perform anything else but set the width and height of the newly created widget to zero. No wonder XtPopup or XtManage- Child create zero width or height errors (dependent on whether width and height of the shell widget are set in the resource file or not).
Question: Does anyone know, why XtQueryGeometry returns so low prefered
values when working on table widgets or perhaps what
to do about?
I'll be happy, if someone is able to help me.
Germans are requested to answer in german.
Siegfried Kaiser
email: kaiser@uniko.uni-koblenz.de
The part of interest:
/* Graphischer Neuaufbau des Model-Init-Formulars */
/* Storing the old width and height of the viewport- */
/* widget, which is the parent of the troubling table */
/* widget, before the viewport widget is destroyed */
/* The destroying of widgets before resizing them is a */
/* relict from R3-age */
if (model_init_popped_up)
XtUnmapWidget(model_init_form_view);
XtDestroyWidget(model_init_form_view);
/* Creating the subtree within the shell, of which the */
/* root is the viewport widget */
n = 0;
XtSetArg(args[n],XtNfromVert,model_init_title); n++;
XtSetArg(args[n],XtNfromHoriz,model_init_button_view); n++;
XtSetArg(args[n],XtNallowVert,True); n++;
XtSetArg(args[n],XtNforceBars,True); n++;
model_init_form_view = XtCreateWidget("form_view",viewportWidgetClass,
model_init_form,args,n);
n = 0;
model_init_table = XtCreateWidget("table",xpTableWidgetClass,
model_init_form_view,args,n);
/* create_form_widget does create and position table */
/* widget's childs. To position them it uses XpTable- */
/* ChildPosition in R5 and XtTblPosition in R4 */
create_form_widget(ptr_model_init_obj,model_init_table);
/* */
/* The crucial function call: */
/* intended to return the maximum height possible: if */
/* there isn't sufficient space to show the whole table */
/* widget, then the viewport shall grow as large as */
/* possible, but not beyond the border of screen. */
/* If there is enough space, the window is intended to */
/* shrienk to the smallest possible height. */
/* */
XtQueryGeometry(model_init_table,NULL,&pref);
/* According to the algorithms idea, the new value of */
/* viewport widget's height is selected. Unfortunately */
/* pref.height = 0 leads to new_height = 0. */
if (form_view_height > pref.height) new_height = pref.height;
else new_height = form_view_height;
/* Setting the new values to viewport widgets ancestors */
w = XtNameToWidget(model_init_form,"form_view");
XtResizeWidget(w,width,new_height,pref.border_width);
XtResizeWidget(model_init_form_view,width,new_height,
pref.border_width);
if (model_init_popped_up)
{
/* In case the shell, which contains model_init_form_- */
/* view and model_init_table, allready exists, is has */
/* to be resized, too. */
n = 0;
XtSetArg(args[n],XtNwidth,&shell_width); n++;
XtSetArg(args[n],XtNheight,&shell_height); n++;
XtSetArg(args[n],XtNborderWidth,&shell_bw); n++;
XtGetValues(model_init_shell,args,n);
XtResizeWidget(model_init_shell,shell_width,
shell_height - height + new_height,shell_bw);
}; /* end of if */
n = 0;
XtSetArg(args[n],XtNwidth,&width); n++;
XtSetArg(args[n],XtNborderWidth,&bw); n++;
XtGetValues(model_init_button_view,args,n);
XtResizeWidget(model_init_button_view,width,new_height,bw);
XtResizeWidget(vert_bar,sbar_width,1,sbar_bw);
resize_inits();
/* If there is the shell's height set within the */
/* resource file, the program terminates within the */
/* first XtManageChild on its second pass through the */
/* observed function. The first pass succeeds. */
XtManageChild(model_init_form_view);
XtManageChild(model_init_table);
if (!model_init_popped_up)
{
/* In case the shell isn't popped up it has to be done. */
/* If there is no value set to the shell's height within*/
/* the resource file, the program terminates here. */
XtPopup(model_init_shell,XtGrabNone);
model_init_pop_flag = True;
set_model_init_attributes();
}; /* end of if */
get_actual_init(&ptr_actual);
load_form(ptr_actual);
/* */
/* If someone suspects the creation of table widget's contents */
/* causes all the trouble, there are the sources of create_form */
/* */
create_form_widget(ptr,table)
t_obj *ptr;
Widget table;
/* ptr is a linear list containing attributes and para- */
/* meters of the model and additionally the correspon- */
/* ding widgets */
{
Arg args[10];
int n,
row,
col;
t_obj *ptr_obj;
t_ident *ptr_ident;
/* Initialization of the local variables */
ptr_obj = ptr;
col = 0;
row = 0;
/* Schleife ueber die Objekte bzw. das Pseudo-Objekt (fuer die Parameter) */
/* loop through the list of objects and pseudo-objects: */
/* every object occuring in the model has zero or more */
/* attributes and some parameters, which can be shared */
/* by several objects. */
/* Because of locality the attributes of one object are */
/* listed in a second linear list (of type t_ident), */
/* whereas the parameters, which can belong to any ob- */
/* ject are put together in a pseudo-object */
/* Thus the program loops through the list of objects */
/* and pseudo-objects and for each object through the */
/* list of its attributes resp. parameters. */
while (ptr_obj != (t_obj*)NULL)
{
/* Each object and pseudo-object is represented in a */
/* label widget */
n = 0;
XtSetArg(args[n],XtNlabel,ptr_obj->name); n++;
ptr_obj->label_w = XtCreateManagedWidget("object",labelWidgetClass,
table,args,n);
XpTableChildPosition(ptr_obj->label_w,col,row);
col++;
row++;
ptr_ident = ptr_obj->ident;
/* Schleife ueber die Objekt-Attribute bzw. Parameter */
while (ptr_ident != (t_ident*)NULL)
{
/* Each attribute and parameter is represented in a */
/* label and has a corresponding asciiText widget, in */
/* which it is to be initialized. */
n = 0;
XtSetArg(args[n],XtNlabel,ptr_ident->name); n++;
ptr_ident->label_w = XtCreateManagedWidget("ident",labelWidgetClass,
table,args,n);
XpTableChildPosition(ptr_ident->label_w,col,row);
col++;
n = 0;
XtSetArg(args[n],XtNlength,ROW_LENGTH); n++;
XtSetArg(args[n],XtNstring,ptr_ident->text); n++;
XtSetArg(args[n],XtNeditType,XawtextEdit); n++;
XtSetArg(args[n],XtNwrap,XawtextWrapWord); n++;
XtSetArg(args[n],XtNresize,XawtextResizeHeight); n++;
XtSetArg(args[n],XtNuseStringInPlace,True); n++;
ptr_ident->text_w = XtCreateManagedWidget("text",
asciiTextWidgetClass,
table,args,n);
XpTableChildPosition(ptr_ident->text_w,col,row);
col--;
row++;
get_next_ident(&ptr_ident);
}; /* end of while */
col--;
get_next_obj(&ptr_obj);
}; /* end of while */
} /* end of create_form_widget */
So far the problem in detail.
| 5comp.windows.x |
Re: Dealing with cults - a few thoughts
In article <OAF.93Apr21181038@klosters.ai.mit.edu>, oaf@zurich.ai.mit.edu (Oded Feingold) writes:
> Look at history. Rep Leo Ryan (and some staffers) visited Jonestown,
> at the request of constituents who had relatives there. Once
> Jonestown was discovered, and even though they killed Ryan and his
> entourage ... they all killed themselves, because Jim Jones knew he'd
> be busted...
> The only way to prevent such a problem would be never to investigate
> reports of child abuse or sexual mistreatment, or organizations buying
> full-auto conversion kits or shipping hand grenades via UPS, on the
> off chance of stumbling across cults that would kill themselves. ...
>
> So, the only way the BATF/FBI could "save" those people, and future
> cults, is by ignoring such signs.
The paucity of this line of argument is that it is provably false.
Texas state officials COULD and DID investigate child abuse charges.
They COULD and DID apprehend Koresh peaceably. The COULD and DID
impound his weapons for the duration. And Koresh was NOT CONVICTED.
Note that child abuse and similar accusations are STATE matters, not
federal. The state COULD and DID handle them properly and peaceably,
and furthermore violating no one's constitutional rights in the process.
So maybe the best way for BATF/FBI to save people is to mind their
own fucking business.
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Waco
I don't want to attack anyone's personal opinions and thus have not
included any articles - but it seems to me incredibly ridiculous
and pompous for someone to sit back with the benefit of hindsight
and point fingers at Clinton, Reno, the FBI, or whomever.
First of all, it is a knee-jerk judgement. The facts are quite
muddled at this point and will likely be for quite a while.
Secondly, things do not improve by pointing blame and accusatory
fingers. Pointing fingers is a destructive action. If everyone
sat around pointing fingers all the time, nothing would get done
and nothing would ever get any better. And despite the tragedy,
we can learn something from this - if it is approached in a
constructive manner. Doesn't it seem that working together is
more productive than working against one another?
Thirdly, it seems incredibly hypocritical to place blame given
the benefit of hindsight - something that those who made the
decisions did not have the benefit of. Why not give them the courtesy
of acknowledging that they did the best they could with the
data they had - in a very, very difficult situation. Some
responses have gone so far to suggest that the actions were done
without regard for the lives of the people in the compound - give
me a break.
Be part of the solution - not the problem.
And that's MY opinion -
david
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Keywords:
| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
Does Win3.1 use a math co-processor?
If a PC has one, does Windows 3.1 use a math co-processor? I'm not talking
about specific apps, but the OS (if you want to call it that) itself?
Please respond by email.
- Peter Schwenk (schwenk@cis.udel.edu)
| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
Re: So I'm an idiot, what else is new?
In article <9303311213.AA49462@jsc.nasa.gov>, mcelwre@cnsvax.uwec.edu (R. E. McElwaine) writes:
|> RUSSIA'S OPERATIVE
|>
|> In March 1993, Russian President Boris Yeltsin
|> proposed to the United States and the United Nations a global
|> defense shield (with "Star Wars"-type weapons) AGAINST
...
Funny. A bit disturbing. Forging a posting seems somewhat unethical, even
if the subject is as notorious as McElwaine.
Followups should definitely not go to sci.space.
david rickel
drickel@sjc.mentorg.com
| 14sci.space |
Re: If There Were No Hell
In article <May.5.02.51.25.1993.28737@athos.rutgers.edu>, shellgate!llo@uu4.psi.com (Larry L. Overacker) writes:
> Here's a question that some friends and I were debating last night.
>
> Q: If you knew beyond all doubt that hell did not exist and that
> unbelievers simply remained dead, would you remain a Christian?
>
> My contention is that if you answer this question with "No. I would
> not then remain a Christian" then you really are not one now.
> Following Jesus Christ has everything to do with sharing in
> his work and spreading the news that the Kingdom of Heaven is already
> among us. Fear-based religion is not a faith-relationship with the
> One Who made us all.
So does that mean that anyone who is a Christian to avoid Hell isn't really
a Christian at all? It sounds like it to me.
Mit Liebe in Christus,
Martyn R. Mellodew. (u0mrm@compsci.liverpool.ac.uk)
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Department of Applied Mathematics | ARPA/Internet: u0mrm@csc.liv.ac.uk
and Theoretical Physics, | JANET: u0mrm@uk.ac.liv.csc
The University of Liverpool, |
P.O. Box 147, |
Liverpool, |
England, |
L69 9BX. | `Dubito ergo Deus est.'
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| 15soc.religion.christian |
Re: How Redirect PRINT MANAGER To FILE?
In <70540011@hpcc01.corp.hp.com> reed@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Perry Reed) writes:
>> / hpcc01:comp.os.ms-windows.misc / u7911093@cc.nctu.edu.tw ("By SWH ) / 9:58 am Apr 24, 1993 /
>> Hello,
>>
>> Who can tell me Where can I find the PD or ShareWare
>> Which can CAPTURE windows 3.1's output of printer mananger?
If you are planning on using this on a regular basis, conncting the printer
to file can become bothersome because Windows then asks you for the filename
that you want to create. I've found that putting a line in system.ini in the
ports section with just a path and filename works. The only problem is that
if you send more than one job, the second one deletes the first.
Chris
--
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PGP: Public key encryption for the masses Disclaimer: I didn't say that!
PGP encrypted mail WELCOME! PGP public key pgp-public-keys@toxicwaste.mit.edu
"Orwell may very well have been correct... he just had the year wrong." - me
| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
Re: Question on addressing... (correction)
A little correction on my previous post about an hour ago.
Please replace the term 'EEPROM' with the term 'EPROM' wherever it appears.
(Don't not why I added that extra 'E' every time.)
| 12sci.electronics |
Re: 10% of Azeri soil is now occupied by fascist x-Soviet Armenia.
In article <30961@galaxy.ucr.edu> raffi@watnxt08.ucr.edu (Raffi R Kojian) writes:
>> people think. 10% of Azeri soil is now occupied by the fascist
>> x-Soviet Armenian Government. Recently Armenians attacked the Azeri
>> town of Khojaly and massacred thousands of Azeris. The Paris-based
>> 'Association for Democracy and Human Rights in Azerbaijan' puts
>> the number of Khojali victims at 3,145. Some of the dead were
>> scalped and mutilated.
>Sedar,
It is 'Serdar', 'kocaoglan'.
>Have you ever even considered buying a dictionary? Do you evn know the
>definition of fascist? Why don't you LOOK IT UP, POST IT UP HERE, AND PROVE
Just say so.
>
The SUNDAY TIMES 8 March 1992
>
Morgues fill as Azeris head for all-out war
-------------------------------------------
>
Thomas Goltz, the first to report the massacre by Armenian soldiers in
the worst violence since the breakup of the Soviet Union, reports from
Agdam
------
>
Khojaly used to be a barren town, with empty shops and treeless dirt
roads. Yet it was still home to thousands of people who, in happier
times, tended fields and flocks of geese. Last week it was wiped off
the map.
>
.......
>
As sickening reports trickled in to the Azerbaijani border town of
Agdam, and the bodies piled up in the morgues, there was little doubt
that Khojaly and the stark foothills and gullies around it had been
the site of the most terrible massacre since the Soviet Union broke
apart.
.......
>
I was the last Westerner to visit Khojaly. That was in january and
people were predicting their fate with grim resignation. Zumrut Ezoya,
a mother of four on board the helicopter that ferried us into the
town, called her community "sitting ducks, ready to get shot". She and
her family were among the victims of the massacre on February 26.
.......
>
"The Armenians have taken all the outlying villages, one by one, and
the government does nothing." Balakisi Sakikov, 55, a father of five,
said. "Next they will drive us out or kill us all," said Dilbar, his
wife. The couple, their three sons and three daughters were killed in
the assault, as were many other people I had spoken to.
......
>
"It was close to the Armenian lines we knew we would have to cross.
There was a road, and the first units of the column ran across then
all hell broke loose. Bullets were raining down from all sides. we had
just entered their trap."
>
The azeri defenders picked off one by one. Survivors say that Armenian
forces then began a pitiless slaughter, firing at anything moved in
the gullies. A video taken by an azeri cameraman, wailing and crying
as he filmed body after body, showed a grizzly trail of death leading
towards higher, forested ground where the villagers had sought refuge
from the Armenians.
>
"The Armenians just shot and shot and shot," said Omar Veyselov, lying
in hospital in Agdam with sharapnel wounds. "I saw my wife and
daughter fall right by me."
>
People wandered through the hospital corridors looking for news of the
loved ones. Some vented their fury on foreigners: " Where is my
daughter, where is my son ?" wailed a mother. "Raped. Butchered. Lost."
>
Azerbaijan has said as many as 1,000 refugees were killed as they
tried to flee. The Armenians have denied this, saying the civilians
were caught in "crossfire".
.......
>
>When Hitler was asked what the world and history would say about his
>extermination of Jews he said...
>"WHO TODAY REMEMBERS THE ARMENIANS"
Are you idiot for real?
'After all, who remembers today the extermination of the Tartars?'
(Adolf Hitler, August 22, 1939: Ruth W. Rosenbaum (Durusoy),
"The Turkish Holocaust - Turk Soykirimi", p. 213.)
>Kill all of the Armenians reguardless of age or sex. -Talaat Pasha
You must be the only moronian left on the net to believe those
ASALA/SDPA/ARF forgeries. What a clown...
'Kill Turks and Kurds wherever you find them and in
whatever circumstances you find them. Turkish children
also should be killed as they form a danger to the
Armenian nation.' (Hamparsum Boyadjian - 1914)[1]
[1] M. Varandian, "History of the Dashnaktsutiun," p. 85.
Serdar Argic
'We closed the roads and mountain passes that
might serve as ways of escape for the Turks
and then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
(Ohanus Appressian - 1919)
'In Soviet Armenia today there no longer exists
a single Turkish soul.' (Sahak Melkonian - 1920)
| 17talk.politics.mideast |
Re: What are the problems with Nutrasweet (Aspartame)?
Phenylketonuria is a disease in which the body cannot process phenylalanine.
It can build up in the blood and cause seizures and neurological damage.
An odd side effect is that the urine can be deeply colored, like red wine.
People with the condition must avoid Nutrasweet, chocolate, and anything
else rich in phenylalanine.
Aspartame is accused of having caused various vague neurological symptoms.
Pat Robertson's program _The_700_Club_ was beating the drum against
aspartame rather vigorously for about a year, but that issue seems to
have been pushed to the back burner for the last year or so. Apparently,
the evidence is not very strong, or Pat would still be flailing away.
| 13sci.med |
Their eyes gouged out by fascist Armenians: Armenian Barbarism.
Atrocity Reports Horrify Azerbaijan :
"Azeri officials who returned from the seen to this town about nine miles
away brought back three dead children, the backs of their heads blown off...
'Women and children had been scalped,' said Assad Faradzev, an aide to
Karabagh's Azeri governor. Azeri television showed pictures of one
truckload of bodies brought to the Azeri town of Agdam, some with their
faces apparently scratched with knives or their eyes gouged out."
Brian Killen (Reuters)
The Washington Times, 3/3/92
Killings Rife in Nagorno-Karabagh, Moldova:
"Journalists in the area reported seeing dozens of corpses, including some
of the civilians, and Azerbaijani officials said Armenians began shooting
at them when they sought to recover the bodies."
Fred Hiatt
The Washington Post, 3/3/92
Serdar Argic
'We closed the roads and mountain passes that
might serve as ways of escape for the Turks
and then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
(Ohanus Appressian - 1919)
'In Soviet Armenia today there no longer exists
a single Turkish soul.' (Sahak Melkonian - 1920)
| 17talk.politics.mideast |
Re: Maxima Chain wax
In article <1993Apr26.013305.8161@linus.mitre.org> cookson@mbunix.mitre.org (Cookson) writes:
>I found some great stuff to clean chain spooge of wheels. It's called
>Goo Gone and cleaned the spooge off my rear wheel faster than the Simple
>Green cleaned the bug guts off my headlight. Wonderful stuff. I recommend
>that we officially delcare it a DoD Wonder Spooge (tm) product.
>
I think you can get that at most head shops. I'm not kidding... although
it seems more appropriate for them to be selling Simple Green.
| '86 BMWR80GS (Erik Asphaug) |
| 8rec.motorcycles |
Re: Fortune-guzzler barred from bars!
bclarke@galaxy.gov.bc.ca writes:
>Saw this in today's newspaper:
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>FORTUNE-GUZZLER BARRED FROM BARS
>--------------------------------
>Barnstaple, England/Reuter
>
> A motorcyclist said to have drunk away a $290,000 insurance payment in
>less than 10 years was banned Wednesday from every pub in England and Wales.
>
> David Roberts, 29, had been awarded the cash in compensation for
>losing a leg in a motorcycle accident. He spent virtually all of it on cider, a
>court in Barnstaple in southwest England was told.
>
> Judge Malcolm Coterill banned Roberts from all bars in England and
>Wales for 12 months and put on two years' probation after he started a brawl in
>a pub.
Is there no JUSTICE?!
If I lost my leg when I was 19, and had to give up motorcycling
(assuming David didn't know that it can be done one-legged,) I too would want
to get swamped.... maybe even for ten years! I'll admit, I'd probably prefer
homebrew to pubbrew, but still...
Judge Coterill is in some serious trouble, I can tell you that. Any
chance you can get to him and convince him his ruling was backward, Nick?
Perhaps the lad deserved something for starting a brawl (bad form...
horribly bad form,) but for getting drunk? That, I thought, was ones natural
born right! And for spending his own money? My goodness, who cares what one
does with one's own moolah, even if one spends it recklessly?
I'm ashamed of humanity.
Matt Block & Koch
DoD# #007 1980 Honda CB650
| 8rec.motorcycles |
Re: Win NT - what is it???
rmohns@vax.clarku.edu writes:
>Chicogo is what I want to use. It is, like NT, a true OS with thrue
>multitasking and multithreading, but has much smaller hardware requirements,
>and does not meet DOD security specs (but that's okay since it will probably
>be more of a client OS). there are a few otehr differences, but those are the
>main ones. There was an article about Chicogo in PC Week last August.
> The Chicogo and NT development groups at Micro$oft are in intense
>competition, so it is said. However, I think a different relationship will
>arise: NT will be the server (*N*etowrk *T*echonology), Chicogo will be the
>client machine. It is entirely possible for different OS's to work together,
>partly because Chicogo is just a small NT (think of it that way, anyway).
>(Novell Netware creates an OS on the server that is truly not DOS, so don't
>scorn the concept.)
> Anyway, don't expect it soon. Windows 4 and DOS 7 are supposed to be
>released next year (read: see it in 95), so I expect that Chicogo won't be out
>til '96.
How does Chicago differ from the (sort of) announced Windows 4. My understand-
ing, at least from the InbfoWorld accound of Windows 4 is that it's sort
of NT Lite--a full-fledged operating system but lacking server and security
features that make NT such a bear. Is W4 not true multithreading?
| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
PGP 2.0 vs 2.2
I've seen PGP 2.2 mentioned for the Mac platform. I use 2.0 on MS/DOS.
Is there a 2.2 for MS/DOS? If so, a site or two that has it available
(I'd need executables, although source would be nice to review).
What was "fixed" or changed from 2.0 > 2.2?
Thanks, mwe
mearle@netcom.com
finger for pgp2.0 public key
| 11sci.crypt |
Available memory to the Xserver. How to get the actual size?
Hello Everybody!
I have a little question:
Due to more features (PEX, Drag&Drop) many applications when linked with for
example Motif 1.2 instead Motif 1.1 need more memory in the Xserver.
X-terminals only have limited memory (normally no swapping possible). So my
question:
Is there a possibility to determine via X protocol calls the size of free
memory available to the Xserver?
So one can determine for example whether to start a PEX application with the
CSS on client side or on server side (when there is enough memory).
Please reply via e-mail, I'll summarize!
Sincerly,
Matthias
--
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6100 Darmstadt, FRG | ZGDV, Wilhelminenstrasse 7 | Lichtenbergstrasse 73
pfuetzner@igd.fhg.de, pfuetzner@zgdvda.UUCP | Keith Packard said:
R5 is different from R4. That's why we changed the release number :-)
| 5comp.windows.x |
Re: Proton/Centaur?
Well thank you dennis for your as usual highly detailed and informative
posting.
The question i have about the proton, is could it be handled at
one of KSC's spare pads, without major malfunction, or could it be
handled at kourou or Vandenberg?
Now if it uses storables, then how long would it take for the russians
to equip something at cape york?
If Proton were launched from a western site, how would it compare to the
T4/centaur? As i see it, it should lift very close to the T4.
pat
| 14sci.space |
Re: Goodbye, good riddance, get lost 'Stars
In article <DT642B1w165w@sms.business.uwo.ca>, s4lawren@sms.business.uwo.ca
(Stephen Lawrence) says:
> Goodbye Minnesota,...you never earned the right to have an NHL
>franchise in the first place!
> Hope you enjoy your Twin city wide mania for HIGH SCHOOL HOCKEY
>(hey, by the way my old pee wee team is having a reunion in Regina, care
>to come up and film the event?)
> Yee haa Golden Gophers
>Whatta weird town!!!!!
--Minnesota definitely deserves an NHL franchise!!! You'll see the
Minnesota Whalers pretty soon, so fear not Minnesota fans. No Norm Green,
'cept for the team color (sorry, bad pun!)
--What a difference two years makes! Minnesota finished 29-37-14 in 1992
and made the finals. They finish with a better record at 38-38-10 thi year
and move to Dallas. Every team in the playoffs has a winning record!!!
Finally!!! It's about time, NHL!!!
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
** Robbie Po ** PGH PENGUINS!!! "It won't be easy, but it
Contact for the '93-'94 '91 STANLEY CUP will have greater rewards.
Penn State Lady Lions '92 CHAMPIONS Mountains and Valleys are
rap115@psuvm.psu.edu 11 STRAIGHT WINS! better than nothing at all!"
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
Re: New to Motorcycles...
L629159@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM writes:
>(Thread degenerated to comparative costs of MSF courses deleted...)
>Hey! Even at the highest price mentioned ($140 US) the course is
$200 in Glassboro, New Jersey :(
>a bargain. Worth every penny, and there are lots of things you'll
>get related to your bike that won't feel that way about.
Patricia
phj@remus.rutgers.edu
| 8rec.motorcycles |
DEC LK250-AA PC keyboard for sale
DEC LK250-AA PC keyboard for sale:
- automatically senses machine type and switches between AT/XT modes
- same exact key layout as DEC's VT2xx, VT3xx, etc., with DEC
names on keys as well as PC names
- standard AT/XT cable included
- great for use with a VTxxx terminal emulator - all the keys are there
and in the correct place. (i.e. GOLD PF1, PF2, etc.)
- perfect condition, very good feel
- $130 + shipping (DEC price was around $300)
Send email if you have questions.
Thanks,
Keith
-----
keith@radio.nl.nuwc.navy.mil
| 6misc.forsale |
clipper serial numbers need 2nd court order?
something that no one has discussed yet (or I missed it):
The FBI sets up a wiretap AFTER the court order was handed.
Only at this point they can access the line and detect
the serial number N.
What happens next, does the FBI simply asks for the keys
for N, and, since a warrant was issued for the line, the FBI
simply gets it? What if multiple phones are used from the
same house, the FBI just asks for N1, N2, etc.?
Exactly who is to prevent the FBI from claiming some
other serial number, X, was also used over the wirtapped
line and get the keys for X?
Either a second court order (for the specific serial/key)
is required (and I have seen no indication of this), or
the FBI can effectively ask for any pair of keys at any
time, so the escrow key holders are a total fake.
An unrelated issue: if and when all phones always use
the clipper chip, how are call-transfers going to take
place?!
Michael Golan
mg@cs.princeton.edu
| 11sci.crypt |
Re: CD300 & 300i
In article <1ps8d7INNrc0@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> chyang@leghorn.engin.umich.edu (Chung Hsiung Yang) writes:
>
>In article <bauer-060493101758@134.60.68.23>, bauer@informatik.uni-ulm.de (Christian Bauer) writes:
>> In article <Afi9sHS00VohMrYlEe@andrew.cmu.edu>, "Donpaul C. Stephens"
>> <deathbird+@CMU.EDU> wrote:
>> >
>> > What is the difference?
>> > I want a double-spin CD-ROM drive by May
>> >
>> > looking into NEC and Apple, doublespins only
>> > what is the best?
>>
>> Nec Toshiba and Sony (Apple) nearly deliver the same speed.
>> As apples prices are very low (compared to there RAM SIMMS)
>> You should buy what is inexpencive. But think of Driver revisions.
>> It is easier to get driver kits from Apple than from every other
>> manufacturer
>>
>> Christian Bauer
>>
>> bauer@informatik.uni-ulm.de
>
>
> I thought NEC and Toshiba CD-ROM mechanism have an average
>access time of less than 200 ms. While the SONY-APPLE CD-ROM
>drive has an access time of 300 ms for the doublespin models.
>
>- Chung Yang
>
I have the a CD-Technology drive with the Toshiba mechanism, and it is
supposedly the fast and best now. It has an access of 200ms and a data
transfer rate 300Kb/sec. It is multisession photo-cd compatible. It is
available from educorp for $599, the CD-Technology one, and comes with two
mail in coupons for two free CDs. I'm not sure if the cd's are good, since
I've only had the drive a little less than a month and had the cd's shipped
to my home address in california instead of here in maryland. The
CD-technology drive has a separate power supply separated from the drive,
which supposedly gives it a longer life, and keeps it cleaner with no fan to
attract dust. A Toshiba brand drive is also available, but I think the
CD-Technology is better, since you get the same mechanism, and at a slightly
lower price with two free CDs.
The Apple 300/330i Drive, Sony Mechanism, is around a 300ms access time I
think, and a data transfer rate of 300Kb/sec. I know it is the slowest of the
three mentioned here. It is not widely available, except through the apple
catalog, which is bad at a price of only $599. It is also multi-session photo
cd compatible. I think the external model comes with 7 free cds, some of
which are pretty good.
The NEC drive has been out the longest. it has an access time of 280ms and
a data transfer rate of 300Kb/sec. it is available from many vendors around
$600 dollars, including Educorp. It wasn't multi-sesssion photo-cd compatible
before, but I hear that the current version that is shipping is. Owners of
the older drives can get an upgrade. It does not come with any free cd's
unless you buy it in a bundle.
Of the three CD-Rom drives above, i think the best choices would be the
Apple drive and the CD-technology(toshiba) drive. The apple drive for it's
compatibility with apple products and the cd-technology(toshiba) for it's
speed and performance.
BTW, the models of the drives are:
Apple: AppleCD 300 or AppleCD 300i (internal)
CD-Technology: CD-T3401 (the Toshiba brand name model I'm not sure, but it
is also something like with 3401)
NEC: CDR-74
I'm very happy with my drive. And have had no compatibility problems
whatsoever. If I am wrong about any of the above, do correct me, but I am
pretty sure of myself, even when I think I'm not.
Also, some of you out there might notice that I have the same last name as
the president of CD-Technology which happens to be in southern california,
my hometown. However, I AM NOT a relative nor do I know the guy. Liu is
just a common chinese name, especially in southern california, with the
enormous chinese community. Besides, one of my doctors in california has
three Steve Liu's as patients and another Steve Liu comes to my school and
lives in the next dorm. This is to show that Liu is very common.
Steve :-)
--
Steve Liu |I wish for a better .sig
drlovemd@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu |Suggestions are very welcome!
drlovemd@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu |
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
AHL Playoff results, Thurs/Fri
AHL PLAYOFF SCORES-- FIRST ROUND (home team in CAPS)
================================
GAMES PLAYED ON THURS, 4/22
-------------------------
Rochester 4 UTICA 3 (OT)
GAMES PLAYED ON FRI, 4/23
--------------------------
Binghamton 8 BALTIMORE 3
MONCTON 5 St John's 4 (OT)
Springfield 4 PROVIDENCE 2
===================================================================
SERIES STATI (plural of status? :)
----------------------------------
Adirondack defeated CDI, 4-0
Springfield leads Providence, 3-2
Binghamton leads Baltimore, 2-1
Rochester leads Utica, 3-1
St John's leads Moncton, 3-1
Cape Breton leads Fredericton, 3-1
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+ Bri Farenell farenebt@craft.camp.clarkson.edu +
+ AHL, ECAC and Boston Bruins contact for rec.sport.hockey +
+ Adirondack Red Wings, Calder Cup Champs: '81 '86 '89 '92 +
+ Clarkson Hockey, ECAC Tournament Champs: '66 '91 '93 +
+ Glens Falls High Hockey, NY Division II State Champs: '90 '91 +
+ AHL fans: join the AHL mailing list: ahl-news-request@andrew.cmu.edu +
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
Re: David Polie's future
In article <1993Apr14.010305.1737@ncsu.edu>, fmsalvat@eos.ncsu.edu
(FRANK MICHAE SALVATORE) writes:
>
>> Bad news for the Patrick division next year. Caps GM David Polie is
>> reportedly trying to get a front office job with the NHL. I can't
>> believe Polie has not been fired despite 10 years of mediocrity.
>>
You know what Frank? It's not David Poile's fault that the Caps
have mired in mediocrity for so long. Blame it on the owner, Abe Polin!
This guy owns both the NBA's Bullets and the NHL's Capitals. How dumb
and selfish could this guy be? He's unwilling to spend the bucks in
order to get a big star to Landover...no wonder both teams STINK!
I've heard that the Capitals had a chance to get Detroit's
Steve Yzerman last summer but they pulled out at the last minute. Why?
Because our good man, Abe, is afraid to spend the cash!
Nevertheless, I'm still faithful and hoping that one day
this devilish dictator will be replaced.
>> Frank Salvatore
>> fmsalvat@eos.ncsu.edu
Tuan A. Van
"Does it matter where you buy your underwear ?!" --> Tom Cruise, RAIN MAN
=========================================================================
| T. A. Van -- a.k.a. ARCHMAGE | Q: What's orange, black, and ugly |
| George Mason University | and dwells in the basement ? |
| Electrical Engineering '93 | A: da Philadelphia FLYERS! |
| TVA1@gmuvax.gmu.edu | |
| TVA1@mason1.gmu.edu | ** Let's go CAP-I-TALS! ** |
=========================================================================
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
Re: Workspace Managers for Win 3.1 - a small review
cah@tactix.rain.com (Chris Huey) writes:
>Jamie Scuglia (jamie@zikzak.apana.org.au) wrote:
>: Thanks to all those people who recommended Workspace managers for
>: Windows 3.1. I found 3 shareware Workspace Managers, from Australia's
>: MS-WINDOWS archive (monu6.cc.monash.edu.au), which mirrors some
>: sites in the U.S. The three I found were:
>:
>: 1. WORKSPACES 1.10 (wspace.zip)
>[ review deleted ]
>: 2. WORKSHIFT 1.6 (wrksft16.zip)
>[ review deleted ]
>: 3. BIGDESK 2.30 and BACKMENU (backdesk.zip)
>[ review deleted ]
>I really appreciate this information. However, given that I don't have
>direct Internet access - which means I don't have Archie access - I must
>resort to using FTPMAIL. This means that I need the site name and the
>directory where these workspace managers are located.
backdesk.zip is on CICA, but I'm not sure of the whole directory.
Another to throw into the running is topdesk. It is alsow on CICA, but
I'm not sure where. It is more complicated then backdesk, but I've found
it to be more stable and more usefull. I recomend it to people who
have already used a virtual desktop. Oh yeh, It's free.
Copyright Microsoft and Sanford Staab.
Carl
zmola@cicero.spc.uchicago.edu
| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
FOR SALE: U.S. Robotics 2400 baud modem $25/OBO
I am upgrading my computer systems to FAX modems, and am selling my
2 2400/1200/300 baud USR modems without FAX or error correction.
One is internal ($25), the other is external ($30).
Both are U.S. Robotics (the highest rated modem manufacturer).
Add $4 shipping or pick up in the Washington DC area.
Offers welcome. (I would trade either for a 1x3x70ns SIMM.)
John Baker
| 6misc.forsale |
Re: Gamma Ray Bursters. WHere are they.
In article <STEINLY.93Apr28150743@topaz.ucsc.edu> steinly@topaz.ucsc.edu (Steinn Sigurdsson) writes:
This does not propose a _mechanism_ for GRBs in the Oort (and, no,
anti-matter annihilation does not fit the spectra at least as far
as I understand annihilation spectra...). Big difference.
That's ignoring the question of how you fit a distribution
to the Oort distribution when the Oort distribution is not well
known - in particular comet aphelia (which are not well known)
are not a good measure of the Oort cloud distribution...
Merging neutron stars is at least a mechanism with about the right
energy, except it doesn't explain why there is no apparent correlation
with galaxies or galaxy structure, there is no mechanism for getting
all the energy out in gamma rays (with any significant amount of
baryons around there will be a lot of pair production, which makes a
plasma, which thermalizes the energy), it has trouble generating
enough energy to explain the most powerful bursts (10^52-53 ergs), it
happens too fast compared to the burst duration, and it is hard to
make tight-binaries of neutron stars.
Another cosmological mechinism is the catalytic conversion of a
neutron star to a strange star or the merger of two strange stars, but
that uses pretty far-out physics.
My point is that we don't have a good mechanism at any distance, so
GRB's are likely to be happening by an unknown mechanism, so we can't
rule out the Oort cloud. What would be the spectrum of an event which
converts a comet to strange matter? The spectra for primordial black
holes eating comets and antimatter comets colliding with matter comets
aren't quite right, but perhaps there is an unusual mechanism which
modifies the spectrum. The energy matches very well for both of these
mechanisms. According to Trevor Weeks, if the "Tunguska Meteorite"
was a mini-black hole collision with the earth, then there are likely
to be enough mini-black holes around that the rate for BH-comet
collisions matches the GRB rate well.
The fact that we don't know the distribution of comets in the Oort
cloud isn't a reason to rule them out; it makes it harder to rule them
out. The point of the cited paper was that if we assume they got the
right distribution for the Oort cloud, it is hard but not impossible
to match that up with the distribution of GRB's. If they got the
wrong distribution for the Oort cloud, they can't constrain any Oort-
cloud GRB's at all.
Executive summary: we don't know enough to rule out out the Oort
cloud.
| 14sci.space |
Winjet accelerator card
Anyone familiar with this video card? What chipset does the winjet use - S3?
As I am in the market for a VLG video card, what is the best chipset among
S3, Cirrus Logic and Tseng Lab (ATI is out of the question - too expensive) ?
Thanks.
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
Re: Secret algorithm [Re: Clipper Chip and crypto key-escrow]
gtoal@news.ibmpcug.co.uk (Graham Toal) writes:
> Try reading between the lines David - there are *strong* hints in there
> that they're angling for NREN next,
Where? I honestly didn't see any...
> and the only conceivable meaning of
> applying this particular technology to a computer network is that they
> intend it to be used in exclusion to any other means of encryption.
I disagree, if for no other reason than that there are already other
standards in place. Besides, even if they restrict encryption on the NREN,
who cares? Most of the Internet is commercial anyway. The NREN is only for
geovernment and university research (read the proposals--it's a "data
superhighway" for Cray users, not anything having to do with the Internet).
Amanda Walker
InterCon Systems Corporation
| 11sci.crypt |
Re: XV 3.00 has escaped!
sherman@lea.csc.ncsu.edu (Chris Sherman) gripes:
> It really bums me out that xv went shareware.
xv's been shareware for about a year ... hadn't you noticed?
I don't have a problem with this. John Bradley has put a *hell*
of a lot of work into xv, and if he feels that it's time to get
some monetary reward from it, that's surely his right.
> Can the author legally sell xv? Xv uses tiff and jpeg code developed
> by others. Did the author get permission to sell these works?
Had you bothered to consult the distribution terms of the IJG JPEG
code (which are right there in the xv distribution), you would have
observed that we specifically grant permission for use in shareware
and commercial software. Sam Leffler's libtiff copyright also grants
permission for unrestricted use including resale.
> My guess is that now nobody is going to want to help the author
> maintain the code anymore now that xv has become a commercial product,
"Commercial"? There's a big difference between a polite request
for a voluntary donation and commercial, it's-illegal-to-copy-this-
and-we'll-sic-our-lawyers-on-you software.
I do agree that John's readme file could be a little clearer about
what he means by personal use.
regards, tom lane
organizer, Independent JPEG Group
| 5comp.windows.x |
REAL-3D
Earlier today I read an ad for REAL-3D animation & ray-tracing software and
it looked very convincing to me. However, I don't own an Amiga and so I began
to wonder, if there's a PC version of it.
So, has anyone seen/used REAl-3D for DOS??
---
Rauno 'Rene' Haapaniemi I Every word of it are true,
Haapanatie 2D 409 I except for those that are lies...
90150 OULU I
reneh@otol.fi I Douglas Adams
| 1comp.graphics |
Re: More gray levels out of the screen
In article <C51C4r.BtG@csc.ti.com> rowlands@hc.ti.com (Jon Rowlands) writes:
>
>A few years ago a friend and I took some 256 grey-level photos from
>a 1 bit Mac Plus screen using this method. Displaying all 256 levels
>synchronized to the 60Hz display took about 10 seconds.
Why didn't you create 8 grey-level images, and display them for
1,2,4,8,16,32,64,128... time slices?
This requires the same total exposure time, and the same precision in
timing, but drastically reduces the image-preparation time, no?
--
Kenneth Sloan Computer and Information Sciences
sloan@cis.uab.edu University of Alabama at Birmingham
(205) 934-2213 115A Campbell Hall, UAB Station
(205) 934-5473 FAX Birmingham, AL 35294-1170
| 1comp.graphics |
Re: LCD Overhead Projectors
In <1993Apr15.114208.2945@ug.eds.com> jan@camhpp12.mdcbbs.com (Jan Vandenbrande) writes:
>I am looking for one of those color LCD screens you
>place on an overhead projector and control the presentation
>with a Mac.
>Can you recommend me a particular brand?
>What price are we talking about?
For a good display, you *must* get an active matrix panel and a *very*
bright overhead projector designed to be used with an LCD panel (i.e.
stage must not get too hot). I tried out a Proxima Ovation unit and liked
it, but I needed a brighter projector (I used it with a 3M 920). It is
also too expensive for what you get, IMHO. Prices of active matrix panels
are rumoured to drop substantially sometime this year (something to do
with tarrifs being lifted I think).
In Canadian dollars, the Proxima Ovation models ranged in price from about
$5000 to $7000 and a good overhead projector about $1000 to $1500. For
that kind of money, you can get a brighter image from a three beam
projector, but sacrifice portability.
Oh yes, proper room lighting is extremely important, especially if you
want your audience to have enough light to read handouts and not have that
light wash out your display at the front of the room. Tricky to get right.
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
Re: Koresh Doctrine -- 4 of 4
f_gautjw@ccsvax.sfasu.edu writes:
>In article <watson.735759766@mariner.sce.carleton.ca>, watson@sce.carleton.ca (Stephen Watson) writes:
>> Question for those of you who seem to be fundamentalists (Stephen
>> Tice, the Cotera, Joe Gaut, et al)(apologies if I've mislabelled any
>> of you, I've only started reading t.r.m since the BD disaster. But I
>> know the Cotera is a fundy) and are defending Koresh and his beliefs
>> as an example of True Christianity under persecution from the the Big
>> Bad Secular State: what is your opinion of his reported sexual habits?
>> If the reports are accurate, what IYO does this say about the quality of
>> his Christianity? Or are the allegations just part of the Big
>> Cover-Up?
>Thank you, Steve. It is refreshing to have someone accuse me of being
>a Christian. I only hope enough evidence can be garnered to get a
>conviction. I am not certain what you mean by the "fundy" part as the
>term fundamentalist has a wide variety of uses. If you refer to
I use it to refer to those Christians who take a more
conservative-literalist approach to the Bible, as distinct from
"liberals".
>those who actually believe Jesus is the Messiah and Son of God and
>wish to follow in his way, then I plead guilty. But what does it
I would use the word "Christian" (unqualified) to describe someone to
whom the above definition applied. BTW, it applies to me.
[deletia: Joe Gaut indicates his interest in the BD disaster is from a
civil liberties issue, not an attempt to justify Koresh's beliefs
and/or practices.]
I agree with Joe about this: if some group wants to believe in
whatever god or Invisible Pink Unicorns and go off and live together
and have group sex, or no sex, or sex only for the leaders (but NOT
with children), then, as much as I might believe them to be misguided,
I think they should have the legal right. And I hope the
investigation will start by determining whether the feds had any
*legitimate* reason for going after Koresh in the first place (before
moving on to consider the wisdom of various tactics used).
[Joe goes on to dispute the child-abuse allegations. I'll
(provisionally) accept this, unless someone has evidence to support
the allegations?]
Actually I wasn't thinking about the (alleged) child abuse, but about
the reports that he had sex with, and fathered children by, several
women in the cult. I agree this is not a legal matter - consenting
adults and all that - but Stephen Tice seems to be defending Koresh's
beliefs and practices from specifically *Christian* perspective, not a
civil liberties perspective.
I think my question is not really aimed at Joe (and possibly not at
Ray Cote either, who seems to also be taking the political angle), but
at Stephen Tice.
--
| Steve Watson a.k.a. watson@sce.carleton.ca === Carleton University, Ontario |
| this->opinion = My.opinion; assert (this->opinion != CarletonU.opinion); |
"Somebody touched me / Making everything new / Burned through my life / Like a
bolt from the blue / Somebody touched me / I know it was you" - Bruce Cockburn
| 19talk.religion.misc |
Re: Arlen Specter's address?
In article <1993Apr22.143329.4296@ccsvax.sfasu.edu>, f_gautjw@ccsvax.sfasu.edu writes:
> In article <1993Apr22.142540.20687@icd.ab.com>, kdw@icd.ab.com (Kenneth D. Whitehead) writes:
>> Anybody got Arlen Spectre's address? I want to write to him and thank him
>> for showing the leadership to demand a Congressional investigation
>> into the Waco mess.
>>
>> Ken
>
> You are talking about the man who as a federal attorney did so
> much to frustrate the proper investigation of the JFK assassination by
> the House sub-committee on assassinations. Fox and hen house???
>
Please note that my above comment was not intended as a flame of Ken's
call for Congressional leadership to conduct a proper investigation.
It was merely to call attention to the hazard of having Specter involved.
If anyone took it that way, I apologize.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Joe Gaut | In the super-state, it really does not
<f_gautjw@ccsvax.sfasu.edu> | matter at all what actually happened.
Remember the Alamo | Truth is what the government chooses to
Remember Waco | tell you. Justice is what it wants to happen.
--Jim Garrison, New Orleans, La.
| 16talk.politics.guns |
Re: Another data hiding scheme...
In article <1993Apr13.225348.6511@colorado.edu> bear@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU writes:
>since the price of 1.44 M 3.5" floppies were still high until the last
>few years. If you store "old" data, with old file times, in the public
>filesystem the casual observer may miss the "HD"... especially if you
>"accidently" cover it with something).
>
>--
>Bear Giles
>bear@cs.colorado.edu/fsl.noaa.gov
>
It has been done already!
In the UK the Atari ST box was shipped with 360K disks in the first few
years and then later 720K disks. In order to make life less complicated,
many freebie disks on mags were double formatted like this. Side 0 of the
disk had 360K on it and could be read by any ST. It also had a flip-side
program. This would swap the sides around so that side 1 became side 0.
--
Mike (mike@avon.demon.co.uk)
| 11sci.crypt |
Need help to find out the address of several companies doing graphics.
1) Lucas film
2) Pixar
3) 3D/Eye Inc.
4) Light & Magic
Thanks,
-Changyaw
wangc@cs.indiana.edu
| 1comp.graphics |
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| 1comp.graphics |
Re: pushing the envelope
> flight tests are generally carefully coreographed and just what
> is going to be 'pushed' and how
> far is precisely planned (despite occasional deviations from plans,
> such as the 'early' first flight of the F-16 during its high-speed
> taxi tests).
.. and Chuck Yeager earlier flights with the X-1...
C.O.EGALON@LARC.NASA.GOV
| 14sci.space |
Raytracing Colours?
I have a question about recursive, backward raytracing.
When an incident ray (I) strikes an object at point P, first
the normal (N) is calculated. Light rays are calculated (L1 to Ln
where n is the number of light sources) - these being the light
rays that do not intersect with anything. The reflected ray (R) and
the transmitted ray (T) is calculated from the formulae.
Calling the routine recursively on R and T will return the colours
along the rays (R and T) as rCol and tCol. Each object has its own
colour oCol and each light source has liCol (1 <= i <= n).
The question is:
How do you combine rCol, tCol, oCol and all the liCol's to get
the correct resulting colour to return along the I ray?
All colours are defined as strucures (records) having r, g, b components
between 0 and 1.
If anyone has done this before could you give me a few hints?
--
Adrian Secchia
asecchia@cs.uct.ac.za
| 1comp.graphics |
Re: Merlin, Mithras and Magick
In article <Pegasus-150493132018@fp1-dialin-4.uoregon.edu>
Pegasus@aaa.uoregon.edu (LaurieEWBrandt) writes:
> Lets add to those percentages 13-15% for the Orphaic docterians brought to
> the group by Paul/Saul who was a high ranking initiate. On the development
> of Orphaic Mysteries, see Jane Harrisons .Prolegomena to the study of Greek
> religion. Cambridge U Press 1922. and you can easly draw your own
> conclusions.
perhaps you can quote just a bit of her argument?
josh
| 19talk.religion.misc |
Re: Wings News and Playoff Thoughts
I wrote:
>>
>>I feel the jury is still out on Tim Cheveldae as a playoff goalie.
>>He was average in his first playoffs. Last year, he had a horrible
>>start, but played great the last ten games after he was benched.
>>His GAA, even with the horrible start, was 2.5 last year. This year,
>>I think he's going to play very well (he has to if Detroit is going
>>to win the cup). He wasn't sharp in game 1, but he didn't have to be.
>>I thought he looked pretty good yesterday.
>>
Charles Hubbert writes...
>Great write up of the Wings/Toronto series thus far. I agree with just
>about everything that you said, but Chevy shouldn't have let the shot from
>the right point in. First goal, Mikorov, I think. Other than that, the
>Wings are looking good, and Chevy is holding his own. Not great, but maybe
Chevy has let in 2 or 3 soft goals so far, but they all didn't matter.
However, his recent history has been inconsistant play but comes up
big when it counts. The score was 4-0 I think when the goal you mentioned
was scored. In the third period when it looked like Toronto was coming
back, Chevy was exceptional. I can see him as a Barraso style playoff
goalie: inconsistant when there's nothing on the line,
but comes up big when really needed. I guess we'll both find out.
Ron
**********
"And one of my major goals is to leave the next president a new set
of things to worry about. I'm getting bored reading the same problems
in the paper, decade after decade. I want people to have to deal
with new problems."
... President Bill Clinton 2-4-93
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
Quicktime resolution?
Anyone happen to know what the max resolution for quicktime is? I'm
trying to determine if a maxed out system using quicktime could produce
and edit broadcast quality video (including bringing the video in via
video spigot/etc.). So far I have yet to see anything that's even close
to S-VHS in quicktime, but it'd be great to hear that it's possible.
Thanks for the help,
Alex Bratton
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
Re: The arrogance of Christians
(Dean and I write lots and lots about absolute truth and arrogance.)
vbv@r2d2.eeap.cwru.edu (Virgilio (Dean) B. Velasco Jr.) writes:
> I strongly suspect that we are reaching an impasse here, which is why I
> deign from commenting much further.
I agree that we'll probably never agree, and I'm starting to feel
frustrated, and I'm tired of having my conversations with my husband
dominated by this topic (just kidding, :-)).
I do have to say, though, that participating in this discussion has been
a good learning experience for me. My views on this topic have evolved
and clarified through this, and I suspect that we may not disagree as
much as we think.
I admit that I'm strongly prejudiced against evangelical Christianity,
and I may not always be rational in my reactions to it. I grew up
in EC, and went to an EC college. It was definitely the wrong place
for me, and I react strongly to any implication that EC or conservative
Christianity has any sort of stronghold on true Christianity. I shudder
when I remember the condescending attitude I had about other Christians
who didn't adhere to the EC model.
I have come to see that my real objection to this whole notion of
absolute truth is the actions I have seen it lead to. I have had some
very bad experiences with evangelical Christians claiming to know the
truth, and judging me or others based on their belief that they have
the answers. Knowing the truth doesn't seem to leave a whole lot of
room for others' opinions.
I can accept your belief in absolute truth as long as you* don't try to
use that belief to try to force others to comply with it, and you are
very careful that you don't hurt others with it. Love your neighbor
seems to go totally out the window when one knows the truth and believes
that everyone should be living by that truth. Other people have
convictions about the truth every bit as strong and sincere as yours,
based on careful searching, prayer, and their relationship with God.
Don't dismiss them because God didn't lead them to the same conclusions
as yours.
*This is not directed personally at you, Dean.
Carol Alvin
caralv@auto-trol.com
| 15soc.religion.christian |
Re: 72-pin SIMMS for Q-800, be careful before buying
In article <C5w9v0.FCE@news.cso.uiuc.edu> Marty Sachs
<msachs@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> writes:
> I purchased 2x8 MB 72-pin (60 ns) SIMMs for my Quadra 800 from Chip
> Merchant (I've been very satisfied with them in the past). Either one
> alone works, but both together fail. I called Apple for advice and was
> told that there was a problem with "Composite" SIMMs. Only non-composite
> SIMMs should be used with the Q-800. Chip Merchant confirmed that they
> presently sell only composite 72-pin SIMMs. So, Q-800 SIMMs need to be
> both 60 ns and non-composite.
8 MB SIMMs do not have to be composite SIMMs, although many (most?) 16 MB
SIMMs are. 72-pin SIMMs allow two memory banks per SIMM, thus permitting
the use of 4 Mb DRAM devices (the same ones used on 4 MB SIMMs) to be used
for two 4 MB banks on one SIMM. I can't imagine that it would be cheaper
to build an 8 MB SIMM using 1 Mb DRAMs as the 4 Mb parts reached (and
exceeded) bit for bit price parity with the 1 Mb parts some time ago.
It's probably possible to build a single-bank 8 MB SIMM using 4 Mb parts -
this could cause problems in a Q800. I'm not sure why you'd want to do
this, though, as a dual-bank 8 MB SIMM would be cheaper to build than a
single-bank composite one.
- Dale Adams
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
3d Animation Studio file format??
Is the ".3ds" file format for Autodesk's 3D Animation Studio available?
Thanks,
Gary
(Please respond by email. I have a hell of a time keeping up with news!!
:-) )
| 1comp.graphics |
Re: Is car saftey important?
tcorkum@bnr.ca (Trevor Corkum) writes:
>Is it only me, or is
>safety not one of the most important factors when buying a car?
It depends on your priorities. A lot of people put higher priorities
on gas mileage and cost than on safety, buying "unsafe" econoboxes
instead of Volvos. I personally take a middle ground -- the only
thing I really look for is a three-point seatbelt and 5+mph bumpers.
I figure that 30mph collisions into brick walls aren't common enough
for me to spend that much extra money for protection, but there are
lots of low-speed collisions that do worry me.
jim frost
jimf@centerline.com
| 7rec.autos |
Hard Drive for sale!
I had posted this before, but the buyer fell through, so here goes again....
Western Digital Caviar 2200, 212 meg IDE HD, 3.5 inch drive. Has built in
cache (I believe it's 64k, but I'm not positive). Still in unopened,
original static bag. Asking $275, obo.
| 6misc.forsale |
Re: DESIGNATED HITTER RULE
In article <ekdfc.14.0@ttacs1.ttu.edu>, ekdfc@ttacs1.ttu.edu (David Coons) writes:
>In article <1993Apr4.221228.17577@bsu-ucs> 00ecgillespi@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
>writes:
>>I AM DOING A POSTITION PAPER ON THE DESIGNATED HITTER RULE. ANY INFORMATION
>>OR EVEN OPINIONS WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECITATED. 00ECGILLESPIE "MAGIC"
>
>Should be rescinded. The rules say baseball is a game between two teams of
>nine players each. Let's keep it that way.
Last weeks Sports Illustrated has a couple of big articles on the designated
hitter. It is the 1993 baseball issue. Th is weeks Sports Illustrated
| 9rec.sport.baseball |
Re: Macs suck! Buy a PC!
this is a test
--
****************************************************************************
Erme
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
There's rust on my Beamer! Help!
Actually I wasn't too surprised, since I bought it with the rust. Any of you
got some ideas of getting rid of this CHEAPLY (key word)?? It has eaten all
the
way through on the door panels. Can I use Bondo?
Also, is there a good paint that will bond to Aluminum rims? The paint thati
was on my rims has peeled off, actually, there's some rust looking 'stuff' on
the rims themselves... but it comes off pretty easily.
One more thing...
Have any of you done self-painting to a car? How do you start? What do I need
to do this?
Please help me!
Jesse
| 7rec.autos |
Re: New Study Out On Gay Percentage
In an article rick@howtek.MV.COM (Rick Roy) writes:
>
> [This is called NotQuotingTheEntireArticle (tm). Try it...]
>
>which you refer, please note that many religious beliefs evolved from
>basic, pragmatic principles of day-to-day living. If we had lived
Certainly many religious beliefs seem to be positive principles for
everyday living. Indeed, I believe it is the Islamic religion which
avoids alcohol (I apologize if I name the wrong religion) and that
is certainly a physical positive in many respects. However, this
proves nothing. Just because something is a "basic, pragmatic
principle of day-to-day living" TODAY doesn't mean it evolved from
the same. Especially those beliefs and (mostly) positions held based
on interpretations of the religion.
Religious beliefs come from many places but most will be backed up
(after many levels of arguments) to "Because that's how it is written."
or "God says..." Now I'm not faulting that but that is not a basic,
pragmatic principle as you mean it in this context. It is a belief
based on faith, which by definition is not necessarily backed up by
logic. Faith is a given. God is a absolute truth when arguing from
religion. Also, many religions would reject your thesis that their
beliefs simply come from these day-to-day principles.
In summation, if you wish to use religious arguments be prepared to
back them up with "It says in the [fill in religious document here],"
because most religions (things which at least I denote as religions)
are based on the writings of or teachings of [fill in religious
figure here].
NOTE: Religion is a charged topic and if I offended anyone regarding
my references to God, I apologize. Please insert your own
sensible references, the argument should apply to nearly all
religions.
--
==============================================================================
Kristofer (kmunn@tudor.com) - The opinions expressed within are solely those
--------------------------- of the author and are subject to change when
confronted with new information and logical, coherent arguments.
| 18talk.politics.misc |
Level 5
According to a Software engineering professor here, what was actually rated
level five was an ibm unit which produced part of the software for the shuttle,
by not means all of it.
Interesting note: 90% of the software development groups surveyed were at
level 1. The ibm shuttle groups was the *only* one at level 5!
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| 14sci.space |
1992 - 1993 FINAL NHL PLAYER STATS
If you are interested in receiving the final player stats for
the 1992-1993 NHL Season as well as playoff box scores, stats and
scores/updates...
then e-mail my stat server
mmilitzo@skidmore.edu
the subject of the message must be: STATS
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
Re: Moonbase race
In article <C5tEIK.7z9@zoo.toronto.edu>, henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) writes:
>Apollo was done the hard way, in a big hurry, from a very limited
>technology base... and on government contracts. Just doing it privately,
>rather than as a government project, cuts costs by a factor of several.
So how much would it cost as a private venture, assuming you could talk the
U.S. government into leasing you a couple of pads in Florida?
Software engineering? That's like military intelligence, isn't it?
-- > SYSMGR@CADLAB.ENG.UMD.EDU < --
| 14sci.space |
Quadra Clock Modification - Long
Here is how I modified my Quadra 700 for higher speed. Previously I
had been using a Variable Speed Overdrive for accelerating my CPU
but this modification is testing out as more stable at higher speeds.
Your mileage may vary. The top speed you achieve cannot be predicted
before hand. My personal Q700 has tested fine up to 32 mhz thus far.
I didn't have higher speed clock oscillators on hand to test higher
speeds.
Parts
Clock Oscillators (4 pin TTL variety) You will need a selection of
speeds beginning at 50 mhz on up. The CPU will run at 1/2 the
oscillator speed. The original one is a 50 mhz unit. I recommend
getting a 50 mhz clock in case you damage the existing one.
I obtained my clock oscillators from DigiKey 1-800-344-4539 for
less than $5.00 each. Some of their part numbers are:
50 mhz TTL Clock Oscillator (part # X121)
62 mhz TTL Clock Oscillator (part # X136)
66 mhz TTL Clock Oscillator (part # CTX137)
Don't get the half size clock oscillators. They won't fit.
There are also CMOS clock oscillators. I haven't tried one in a
Quadra. (They work fine in IIsi's)
Socket: Obtain a 4 pin socket which is in the same form factor as
a 14 pin DIP package. Alternatively, use 4 machined socket pins
from an Augat style socket. Just cut them out of the socket.
Cooling Fan: A very small 12 volt fan to keep the CPU cool is a
must. My VSO came with a specially modified heatsink which had
a fan built onto it. It had a pass-through connector which
tapped into the hard drive power cable. You should rig up
something similar or risk frying your CPU.
Procedure
1) Insert usual disclaimer and antistatic warnings here.
2) Remove the top lid of the machine. You will see the floppy disk and
hard drive mounted in a plastic tower. Follow the usual anti-static
precautions and of course make sure the machine is OFF when you do
this. Unplug ALL cables, wall and monitor power supply cords from
the back of the mac.
3) Remove the power supply by pulling the plastic interlocking tab on the
tower forward and simultaneously pulling the power supply straight up.
The tab is a piece of plastic from the left posterior aspect of the
tower which extends downward to hook on to the power supply. You may
also feel a horseshoe shaped piece at the right portion of the power
supply. Leave that alone. The plastic tab from the tower is all you
need release.
4) Look at the rear of the tower assembly. You will see the flat ribbon
SCSI connector to the hard drive, a power cable and a flat ribbon cable
leading to the floppy drive. Disconnect all these from the motherboard.
The hard drive power cable connector has a tab which must be squeezed
to release it.
5) Unplug the drive activity LED from its clear plastic mount
6) Look down the posterior, cylindrical section of the plastic tower. A
phillips head screw is at the base. Remove it, taking care not to drop
it into the case. A bit of gummy glue on your screwdriver is helpful
here.
7) Remove the tower assembly by pulling medially the plastic tab on the
right side of the tower. This tab prevents the tower from sliding
posteriorly. Slide the entire tower assembly 1 cm posteriorly then
lift the tower assembly straight up and out of the case.
8) Remove the interrupt switch assembly. It is a strangely shaped plastic
device at the left, front edge of the motherboard. Pull the middle,
rear plastic prong up and forward. The entire device will release.
9) Unplug the speaker cable. Squeeze the plastic tab on the speaker to
free it then swing it backwards to free it from the case.
10) Remove the motherboard form the case. Lift the front right corner of
the motherboard about 1 mm. This allows it to clear the clear plastic
Power light guide. Slide the motherboard forward about 1 cm. The
motherboard then comes directly out.
11) Locate the 50 mhz clock crystal. It is a small metal box near the
CPU chip. Note and remember its orientation. The new clock oscillators
must be aligned with pin 1 in the same orientation.
Very carefully desolder and remove the old clock oscillator. Some of
the pins may be bent over. Simply desolder then unbend them. Be sure
your desoldering iron is hot enough before heating the board.
I used a suction desoldering iron to accomplish this task. This is
NOT appropriate for a first soldering experience. The motherboard is
a multi-layer design with very fine traces - easily damaged without
proper care.
12) Install your socket or socket pins where the old oscillator once was.
13) Put a 50 mhz clock oscillator into the new socket. You could use the
old clock but it has solder on its pins. This may come of inside the
socket and cause corrosion problems later. I suggest using a new
50 mhz clock.
14) Install your cooling fan system to complete the modification.
14) Reinsert the motherboard and slide it into place.
15) Snap in the interrupt switch assembly and speaker to lock the mother
board firmly. Plug the speaker wire back into the motherboard.
16) Reinstall the tower assembly by first placing the right wall of the
tower against the right wall of the case with the tower assembly about
1 cm posterior of its intended position. Lower the tower assembly into
place while maintaining contact with the right wall of the case.
Once fully down, slide the tower assembly anteriorly until it clicks
into place.
17) Reconnect the motherboard ends of the cables. DONT'T FORGET THE FLOPPY
DRIVE CABLE.
18) Replace the phillips head screw
19) Drop the power supply straight down into place until it clicks in.
20) Plug the hard drive activity light back into its clear plastic mount.
21) Reattach your cables and power cords. Cross your fingers and turn
on the Mac. It should make the usual power on chord. If it doesn't,
something is amiss. Immediately turn of the power and recheck your
handiwork. If all is not well, you have my sincere condolences.
Hopefully, all will work normally. Turn the machine back off and
replace the 50 mhz clock oscillator with a faster one. Reboot and
be astounded.
You will need to fully test the machine for many hours before deciding
a particular speed is truly usable. With my VSO, a machine lock-up
might take 8 hours of operation to occur. In the brief time since
modifying my clock oscillator (36 hours) I have not had a single
problem.
Good Luck to all who attempt this modification. There is a small but real
risk, but you could well reach Quadra 950 speeds or higher with less than
$50 in parts.
Guy Kuo <guykuo@u.washington.edu>
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
Re: Barbecued foods and health risk
In article <79857@cup.portal.com>
mmm@cup.portal.com (Mark Robert Thorson) writes:
>
>> I don't understand the assumption that because something is found to
>> be carcinogenic that "it would not be legal in the U.S.". I think that
>
>No, there is something called the "Delany Amendment" which makes carcinogenic
>food additives illegal in any amount. This was passed by Congress in the
>1950's, before stuff like mass spectrometry became available, which increased
>detectable levels of substances by a couple orders of magnitude.
>
>This is why things like cyclamates and Red #2 were banned. They are very
>weakly carcinogenic in huge quantities in rats, so under the Act they are
>banned.
>
>This also applies to natural carcinogens. Some of you might remember a
>time back in the 1960's when root beer suddenly stopped tasting so good,
>and never tasted so good again. That was the time when safrole was banned.
>This is the active flavoring ingredient in sassafras leaves.
>
>If it were possible to market a root beer good like the old days, someone
>would do it, in order to make money. The fact that no one does it indicates
>that enforcement is still in effect.
>
>An odd exception to the rule seems to be the product known as "gumbo file'".
>This is nothing more than coarsely ground dried sassafras leaves. This
>is not only a natural product, but a natural product still in its natural
>form, so maybe that's how they evade Delany. Or maybe a special exemption
>was made, to appease powerful Louisiana Democrats.
I think what we have to keep in mind is that even though it may be illegal to
commercially produce/sell food with carcinogenic substances, it is not illegal
for people to do such to their own food (smoking, etc). Is this true?
| 13sci.med |
NHLPA poll (Stats/3rd uptade)
3rd uptade:
Here are the standings for the poll after 39 votes: 5 points for 1st, 4 for 2nd,... 1 point for 5th:
EA/ NHLPA game
1. DET 102
2. CHI 97
3. NY 74
4. VAN 73
5. MTL 69
6. PIT 33
7. WSH 29
8. BOS 21
9..ASW 16
10.CGY 10
11.QUE 9
12.ASE 8
13.WPG 7
14.LA 5
OTW 5
STL 5
TOR 5
18.BUF 3
PHI 3
TBY 3
21.SJ 2
22.MIN 1
Atlanta to win Turner Cup 1 (not in the game, but 1 person vote)
24.EDM 0
HTF 0
LI 0
NJ 0
4 teams have no point
Continue to send your votes in this format (until April 20th, approximately)
------------------------------------------------
1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
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Keywords:
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Email : Iskander.Ayari@loria.fr ou ayari@loria.fr
_____________________________________________________
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
Re: Fujitsu 8" HDD
In article <1993Apr17.204351.2256@aber.ac.uk> cjp1@aber.ac.uk (Christopher John Powell) writes:
[deletions]
>It appears to use two balanced-line connections, but what each connection
>corresponds to I know not. One connection is a 30-way IDC, the other a
>60-way IDC.
Sounds like it is an SMD interface to me, not being at work now
to actually count pins. there are two varients, SMD and
SMDC (I think), only minor differences between them. Widely used
prior to the advent of SCSI for large drives (or all drives) on minis
(and mainframes(?) no experience on those).
Richard Dell
| 12sci.electronics |
Re: What do Nuclear Site's Cooling Towers do?
> I really don't know where to post this question so I figured that
> this board would be most appropriate.
try sci.energy
Jeff Babb
babb@sciences.sdsu.edu babb@ucssun1.sdsu.edu
Programmer, SDSU - LARC
| 12sci.electronics |
Re: Hercules Graphite?
In article <C5JBKF.9B8@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib) writes:
> In article <1993Apr06.185638.12139@metrics.com> tomh@metrics.com (Tom Haapanen) writes:
>
> >Has anyone used a Hercules Graphite adapter? It looks good on paper, and
> >Steve Gibson gave it a very good review in Infoworld. I'd love to get a
> >real-world impression, though -- how is the speed? Drivers? Support?
>
> The PC World reviewers found out that the Herc people had hard-coded
^^^^
I think it was the IIT people who make the chip the card is based on who hard-coded
the string.
One of the weeklies looked into this an came to the conclusion that the IIT chip
was still pretty fast.
> Winbench text into the driver. Clever, no? In any case, the Winbench
> results are pretty much inflated.
>
> When and if you get one send me mail.. I might buy that ATI GU+ off
> you.. 9-)
>
>
>
> --
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Iskandar Taib | The only thing worse than Peach ala
> Internet: NTAIB@SILVER.UCS.INDIANA.EDU | Frog is Frog ala Peach
> Bitnet: NTAIB@IUBACS !
Guy
--
-- -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Guy Dawson - Hoskyns Group Plc.
guyd@hoskyns.co.uk Tel Hoskyns UK - 71 251 2128
guyd@austin.ibm.com Tel IBM Austin USA - 512 838 3377
| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
Re: Zionism
In article <C66IqC.99K.1@cs.cmu.edu> anwar+@cs.cmu.edu (Anwar Mohammed) writes:
>organization by trying to distribute Nazi propaganda. Furthermore,
>you attempt to rationalize this through crude stereotyping by pointing
>to the WTC bombing, in which Arab-Americans had no involvement.
Huh? Mohamed Salimeh was perhaps a Korean? How do you claim
arab-americans had no involvement in the WTC bombing?
Ok, his involvement is alleged by the FBI, which doesn't seem
to reliable these days. But honestly, there is a pile of evidence
pointing to them, and it seems those 5 were involved.
This does not mean that all arab-americans were involved, nor
should they be blamed for it, but denying that there were some
arab-americans involved sounds sorta silly to me.
Adam
Adam Shostack adam@das.harvard.edu
"If we had a budget big enough for drugs and sexual favors, we sure
wouldn't waste them on members of Congress..." -John Perry Barlow
| 17talk.politics.mideast |
Giants Win The Pennant!!!!
Giants Win the Pennant!! Giants Win the Pennant !! Gi... OOOPS
I guess I'm a little early here...
See you in October...
| 9rec.sport.baseball |
Re: How NOT to put a motor together
In article <1993Apr6.183553.19539@tcsi.com> markk@tcs.com (Mark Kromer) writes:
>In article <65886@mimsy.umd.edu>, leavitt@cs (Mr. Bill) writes:
>
>[put pistons in bores first then lower onto bottom end deleted]
>
>>Has anybody actually carried out this procedure? I can visualize fewer
>>problems with canting pistons in the cylinders with this method, but
>>more trouble with keeping the bores suspended (especially for the first
>>two pistons) and with working space to insert piston pins and clips
>>(especially for the last two pistons).
It is certainly possible, and quite easy in most cases, especially
on two-strokes. It's very common to do this on bikes where the
cylinder-mounting through-studs don't prevent the cylinder from being
removed with the engine in the frame.
I did this when I assembled the top end on my Indian, which was
easier yet because it does not have through-studs. Base flange studs,
and separate head bolts, dontchaknow.
You have to use a little foresight, rags, duct tape, etc. to keep
clips from falling in, clothespins, hoseclamps, etc. to support the
cylinder while you're inserting the pins.
(Are these called Gudgeon Pins in the UK? If so, what's a Gudgeon?)
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
| Dave Tharp | DoD #0751 | "You can't wear out |
| davet@interceptor.CDS.TEK.COM | MRA #151 | an Indian Scout, |
| '88 K75S '48 Indian Chief | AHRMA #751 | Or its brother the Chief.|
| '75 R90S(#151) '72 TR-2B(#751) | AMA #524737 | They're built like rocks |
| '65 R50/2/Velorex '57 NSU Max | | to take the knocks, |
| 1936 BMW R12 | (Compulsive | It's the Harleys that |
| My employer has no idea. | Joiner) | give you grief." |
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| 8rec.motorcycles |
Re: Microsoft DOS 6.0 Upgrade for sale
adn6285@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
>In article <1pctnfINN6dp@eve.usc.edu>, yuanchie@eve.usc.edu (Yuan-Chieh Hsu) writes:
>> MS DOS 6.0 Upgrade for sale best offer over $45
>> (opened, unregistered)
>So, does anyone care to enlighten us whether DOS6.0 is worth upgrading to?
>How good is it's compression, and can it be turned on/off at will?
>Any other nice/nasty features?
According to reports, if you don't have DOS yet, and don't have any
utilities (QEMM, Stacker, PCTools, Norton, ...) then DOS6 may be worth it.
For people who have DOS5, and some sort of utility, DOS6 doesn't offer
much. You'd never know it from the usual hype that marketing is able
to create, however. :-)
--
Tom Hatton
hatton@cgl.ucsf.edu
(415)-476-8693
| 6misc.forsale |
Re: Bimmer vs Beamer
Mark Monninger (markm@latium.) wrote:
> Although not in direct response to the referenced article, just to set the
> record straight, Beamers are BMW motorcycles. BMW cars are Bimmers. Please,
> let's get our terms straight.
>
> Actually, some purists would argue that the only true Bimmer is a round
> tail light 2002 or 1600.
>
> Mark
Back when I was building round tail light 2002s they were Bimmers. It was
only when the (red suspendered, Reganomics generated, quiche eating) Yuppies
got into the market >-( that they became Beamers and the hood ornaments started
disappering.
Andrei
| 7rec.autos |
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