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Re: Who's next? Mormons and Jews? It's my understanding that Koresh didn't want to come out alive, rather to fulfill his own interpretations of some prophecies. More interesting was discussions on the news about subterannean tunnels under the complex. Wonder if he was planning on hiding out a few days, then re-emerging "resurrected"? Sounds a bit like the book "Passover Plot" to me. Hmmmmm... Seth Rosenthal Disclaimer: All opinions are my own not my employers'.
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CUB fever. kingoz@camelot.bradley.edu (Orin Roth) writes: > CUB fever is hitting me again. I'm beginning to think they have a > chance this year. (what the heck am i thinking?) > Sorry. Just a moment of incompetence. > I'll be ok. Really. > Orin. > Bradley U. You sure? This maybe a chronic syndrome. If it persists, we may have to banish you to the "Cub-crazy Sanatarium" in north Chicago... :-):-):-) Rob
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MARLINS WIN! MARLINS WIN! I only caught the tail end of this one on ESPN. Does anyone have a report? (Look at all that Teal!!!! BLEAH!!!!!!!!!) -- David J.(dwarner@journalism.indiana.edu)*****Blue Riddle Productions 1993 *-------------------------------It's on.--------------------------------* ***"THE RAP IS AN ART EP" is coming out on tape -- this time for real.*** *------------------------E-mail me for the 411.-------------------------*
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Re: Not the Omni! Charley Wingate (mangoe@cs.umd.edu) wrote: : : >> Please enlighten me. How is omnipotence contradictory? : : >By definition, all that can occur in the universe is governed by the rules : >of nature. Thus god cannot break them. Anything that god does must be allowed : >in the rules somewhere. Therefore, omnipotence CANNOT exist! It contradicts : >the rules of nature. : : Obviously, an omnipotent god can change the rules. When you say, "By definition", what exactly is being defined; certainly not omnipotence. You seem to be saying that the "rules of nature" are pre-existant somehow, that they not only define nature but actually cause it. If that's what you mean I'd like to hear your further thoughts on the question. Bill
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Re: Trumpet for Windows & other news readers In article <mcbride.126@ohsu.edu> mcbride@ohsu.edu (Ginny McBride) writes: >In article <ashok.653.0@biochemistry.cwru.edu> ashok@biochemistry.cwru.edu >(Ashok Aiyar) writes: >>Currently WinTrumpet is in very late beta. It looks like an excellent >>product, with several features beyond the DOS version. >>WinTrumpet supports the Trumpet TCP, Novell LWP, and there is also a direct to >>packet driver version that some people are using with the dis_pkt shim. >What's it gonna cost? Again, I do not speak for Peter Tattam, but it is my understanding that it will shareware status as Trumpet 1.05 for DOS is, and I imagine that the registration fees will be similar. I also believe that a new version of Trumpet for DOS will be released sometime in the near future. Ashok -- Ashok Aiyar Mail: ashok@biochemistry.cwru.edu Department of Biochemistry Tel: (216) 368-3300 CWRU School of Medicine, Cleveland, Ohio Fax: (216) 368-4544
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Re: Cell Church discussion group jodfishe@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (joseph dale fisher) writes: >Please, define cell church. I missed it somewhere in the past when this >was brought up before. In a cell church, the fundamental building block is the "cell group" -- a small group of no more than 15 believers. The small groups are responsible for the ministry of the church: evangelism and discipleship. The emphasis is on relationships, not on programs, and both the evangelism and the discipling are relationship-based. This will probably raise more questions than it answered, but that's it in a nutshell. -- ****************************************************************** * Jon Reid * He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep * * reid@cs.uiuc.edu * to gain what he cannot lose. - Jim Elliot * ******************************************************************
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Re: Telnet Terminal for Windows ??? In article <1993Apr30.211839.21296@leland.Stanford.EDU> kocks@chemistry.Stanford.EDU (Peter Kocks) writes: >I'm looking for a good terminal program that will connect to >TCP/IP using windows. Some basic MS-Window that is connect to >a unix host would be great. >Any suggestions? Take a look at WinQVT/net -- the latest version is QVT/net 3.4 It comes in versions that are direct to packet driver, as well as a PC NFS version. It is priced quite low; registration = $40, student registration = $20, and is a nice package -- comes complete with VT220 terminal emulation, FTP, POP3 client, LPR, and NNTP client. You can FTP it from "biochemistry.bioc.cwru.edu" /pub/qvtnet/qvtnet34.zip It was also uploaded to ftp.cica.indiana.edu recently. Ashok -- Ashok Aiyar Mail: ashok@biochemistry.cwru.edu Department of Biochemistry Tel: (216) 368-3300 CWRU School of Medicine, Cleveland, Ohio Fax: (216) 368-4544
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Re: Let's talk sticks... In article <C50pt4.6CM@odin.corp.sgi.com> dptom@endor.corp.sgi.com (Tom Arnold) writes: >Okay you hockey playing fans/finatics out there. I'm looking over the wide >range of aluminum sticks for the first time. I've been playing with pieces >of lumbar that seem to weigh alot and break after a few uses, so I'm >thinking of changing to an aluminum shaft so when I break the blade all I >have to do is change it. The problem is that there is such a wide reange of >models and selections out there that I'm not certain which to consider. Can >any of you post some of your suggestions and experiences with the aluminum >sticks? What is the difference between models? What do you like/dislike about >them? And, which brands are best? > > I've had, and still have a few aluminum sticks. I got my first when I was 15 (a Christian), and broke the shaft halfway through the season, two years later. I bought another (a Canadian) at the beginning of the next season, and I still have it. I also have an Easton, that a friend was getting rid off, after giving up the game. I find that Easton blades are easier to get, but all brands of blades are pretty well interchangeable. Watch out for dried up bits of firewood, that some stores pass off as blades. In my experiences, the blades of an aluminum break more often than regular sticks, but I've only ever broken one aluminum shaft. I like aluminum sticks. The blades are quickly changed, even on the bench if you have to. On the downside, the shaft won't break if you decide to impale yourself on it :-) Ciao, Mark S. "This is between me and the vegetable" - Rick Moranis in Little Shop of Horrors Mark Shoesmith shoe@physics.watstar.uwaterloo.ca
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Re: IC Packages In article <1993Apr16.142715.12613@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> seema@madvlsi.columbia.edu (Seema Varma) writes: >Hi, > I am looking for some help in choosing a package >for a high-speed silicon ADC (100Mhz) currently being >fabricated. This is a PhD research project and I have to test >the chip at speed on a PCB. I expect to have roughly 100 >packaged circuits and will do DC, low-speed and high-speed >testing using 3 different set-ups for the test chip. > > I know for sure that a DIP will not work >(the long lead lines have too high an inductance). >Getting a custom-made package is too expensive, so >I am trying to choose between a flatpak and a >leadless chip carrier. The flatpack would be hard >to test since it has to be soldered on to the test >setup and I would spend loads of time soldering >as I kept changing the test chip. The leadless chip >carrier sockets also have long lead lines and may >not work at high speeds. > > Does anyone out there have experience/knowledge >of this field ? I would greatly appreciate help! Any ideas/ >names of companies manufacturing holders/sockets/packages >would help. > >P.S. The multi-layer fancy GaAs packages seem like a bit >of overkill(?) > > --- Seema Varma You didn't mention whether or not cost is an issue. Where exactly are you running 100MHz?? THe digital side? TTL? ECL? We run 200MHz and 100MHz all over our IC test equipment all day long in the ECL domain, and we use DIP's along with PLCC's, 25mil and 20mil pitch 256pin QFP's to name a few. I don't see a problem in packaging as long as you adhere to sound engineering practices. A good source of information is Motorola's MECL System Design Handbook. The latest ed. is dated 2/88. That is considered to be one of the *bibles* in high-speed design. The very fact that you need to build a test fixture means you're most likely going to need a socket. It in itself has far more inductance per pin than the package you are testing, not to mention any impedance discontinuities. I don't see the big concern over the packaging because it probably isn't going to make that much difference If you're trying to get TTL to run at 100MHz, have fun... TTL was never designed to run in a 100MHz environment. :-( aaron P.S. My opinions have nothing to do with my company...the standard disclaimer applies.
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Domestic Content of US/Japan Joint Ventures Does anyone know what the domestic content is of any of these: Geo Prizm, Eagle Talon, Ford Probe ? All are made in the US, but I have been told they contain mostly foreign parts. Please follow up directly to me, I'll post the findings to the net if there is interest. Thanks! Tim Newman newman@cps.msu.edu
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Re: REAL-3D I heard a friend who just return from NAB from Las Vegas confirm that RealSoft will be releasing a Windows version of REAL-3D 2.0 this summer. He was told that the rendering speed on the DX50 isn't as fast as A4000. However, he was also told that they are switching from Microsoft C++ to Watcom to gain more speed. For people who is looking for a powerful 3D animation software for PC. The wait shouldn't be too long. Real 3D 2.0 is absolutely the most powerful and flexible 3D package out there that sells for less than $1000. p.s. I heard a Indigo version is also under development.
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Re: After 2000 years, can we say that Christian Morality is In article <1qu0f6$489@horus.ap.mchp.sni.de>, frank@D012S658.uucp (Frank O'Dwyer) wrote: > > In article <30134@ursa.bear.com> halat@pooh.bears (Jim Halat) writes: > #In article <1qjbn0$na4@horus.ap.mchp.sni.de>, frank@D012S658.uucp (Frank O'Dwyer) writes: > # > # > #>Really? You don't know what objective value is? If I offered the people > #>of the U.S., collectively, $1 for all of the land in America, would that > #>sound like a good deal? > # > #That happens to be a subjective example that the people of the > #US would happen to agree on. Continue to move the price up; > #at some point a few people would accept then more then more until > #probably all would accept at a high enough number. > > And this "high enough number" is...? :-) > > My point is that the deal is bad, and pretty much anyone can see it is so. Really? I suspect my neighbor would jump at your deal. Of course, she's only three, but if it were "objectively" bad, you wouldn't think it would make a difference... -- Lefty (lefty@apple.com) C:.M:.C:., D:.O:.D:.
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SUMMARY: DES: init vector as additional key? At the risk of getting lost in the clipper chip discussion I give a summary on my recent question: In article <PQSCBCNH@minnie.zdv.uni-mainz.de> I wrote: > The recent discussion in this news group suggests that a key search > attack > against DES is quite feasible now. But normally DES is applied in CBC or > CFB > mode where one chooses a random init vector of 8 bytes. Questions: > > - Makes it sense to handle the init vector as an additional key? Then > we have > a 56 + 64 = 120 bit key. > > - If yes: Is anything known about the security of this key scheme? Can > we > break it faster than by exhaustive search through the 120 bit key space? Unfortunately the answer is no - concealing the initialisation vector essentially doesn't give any additional security. I got 3 answers (from grady@netcom.com, Mark.Lomas@cl.cam.ac.uk, smb@research.att.com) that opened my eyes. It's pretty simple: Say E is encryption (and D decryption) with key K on 64-bit blocks. Let c[0] be the initialisation vector, m[1], m[2], ... the message blocks, c[1], c[2], ... the cipher text blocks. Then encryption in cipher block chaining (CBC) mode works by the formula c[i] = E(m[i] XOR c[i-1]), and decryption by m[i] = c[i-1] XOR D(c[i]). So if the attacker doesn't have c[0] this only affects the first message block m[1]. But she can do her key search attack on m[2], m[3], ... The situation in cipher feedback (CFB) mode is a bit more complicated but similar and left as an exercise for the reader :-) Finally there is the modified output feedback mode (OFB) where DES (or whatever block cipher you use) simply acts as random generator by s[i] = E(s[i-1]) with initialisation vector (= seed) s[0], and encryption is given by c[i] = m[i] XOR s[i]. Here the usual `known plaintext' attack against XOR-bitstream ciphers reduces the cracking to key search for K. -- Klaus Pommerening Institut fuer Medizinische Statistik und Dokumentation der Johannes-Gutenberg-Universitaet Obere Zahlbacher Strasse 69, W-6500 Mainz, Germany
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Re: WD-40 as moisture repellant (was Lead Acid batteries & C In article <1993Apr25.223611.1@auvax1.adelphi.edu> schmidt@auvax1.adelphi.edu writes: >platen, etc flew across the room, and several people in the room almost had >heart attacks. Beware the explosive properties of WD40 vapor. > We use it as starting fluid for jet ski's. The fact that its a lubricant works very well since jet ski's are 2 cycle. It also helps when a ski floods with water because we clean the spark plus with the stuff. OB sci.electronics: I have an office/studio in my garage with a phone in it. Our wireless phone has a page feature where you can make the phone or hand set ring to get the attention of the other person. Is there a simple circuit that I can use over the second pair of wires (or the first pair) to emulate this effect with the phone in the garage? (ie push a button to make the phone ring in the house or push a button to make it ring in the garage.) Thanks Xavier -- ___________________________________________________________ Matthew Xavier Mora Matt_Mora@qm.sri.com SRI International mxmora@unix.sri.com 333 Ravenswood Ave Menlo Park, CA. 94025
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CALCIUM deposits on heart valve A friend, a 62 year old man, has calcium deposits on one of his heart valves . What causes this to happen and what can be done about it? John.Greze@execnet.com
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Re: Help! Need 3-D graphics code/package for DOS!!! N020BA@tamvm1.tamu.edu wrote: : Help!! I need code/package/whatever to take 3-D data and turn it into : a wireframe surface with hidden lines removed. I'm using a DOS machine, and : the code can be in ANSI C or C++, ANSI Fortran or Basic. The data I'm using : forms a rectangular grid. : Please post your replies to the net so that others may benefit. IMHO, this : is a general interest question. : Thank you!!!!!!
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Dbase IV for sale (price reduced!) Dbase IV 1.5 for sale, 3.5 inch disks, all registration included (so you can upgrade to 2.0 if you want), manuals still shrinkwrapped, disks only opened to verify they all work. Asking $175 or best offer.
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Answers to many electronics Questions I have notice a lot of electronics questions by people who are obviously not "tuned-in" to electronics. Many of them have rather simple answers, and many of them require a circuit diagram. Rather than muck up the network, why don't you write to me, send a self- addressed, stamped envelop, and I'll answer your questions, if I can. W. L. Willis, P. E. 114 Fern Circle Clemson, SC 29631
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Re: DoD Oficial (tm) Newbie Bike of Choice In article <1pplsc$38q@news.ysu.edu> ak296@yfn.ysu.edu (John R. Daker) writes: >I propose that the Official DoD Newbie Bike of Choice (tm) be the ZX-11 D. =8^/ Nothing like giving newbies a land rocket to practice on. >It offers >enough power so that a novice rider can safely accelerate out of harms way >in situations where a more experienced rider would use complex avoidance >manouvers. Yup. Accelerate right into the back of an 18-wheel truck. Um. How's the easiest way to get newbies of the road? :) Regards, Ted. --- University of Toronto Computer Engineering PowerUsersGroupChairman '89 FZR600: I'm taking a ride with my best friend. DoD#:886699
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Re: How 2 Get Fontname from Fonstruct ??? In article <1993Apr20.105725@narya.gsfc.nasa.gov> dealy@narya.gsfc.nasa.gov (Brian Dealy - CSC) writes: > >Anyone know how an application can retrieve the name of the font from >an application given an XFontStruct *? >Would XGetFontProperty work if I passed XA_FONT_NAME? >anyone know details of this? Thanks in advance. >Brian > >-- >Brian Dealy |301-572-8267| It not knowing where it's at >dealy@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov | | that's important,it's knowing >!uunet!dftsrv!kong!dealy | | where it's not at... B.Dylan Try this: char *name=NULL; unsigned long value; if(XGetFontProperty(font, XA_FONT, value)) name=XGetAtomName(dpy, value); where dpy is your Display connection and font your XFontStruct pointer. -- Alan Richardson, * "You don't have to be * School of Maths & Physical Sciences, * old to be wise" * Univ. of Sussex, Brighton BN1 9QH, ENGLAND * ******Judas Priest***** UK: mppa3@uk.ac.sussex.syma elsewhere: mppa3@syma.sussex.ac.uk
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Re: Ok, So I was a little hasty... In article <1993Apr20.010734.18225@megatek.com> randy@megatek.com (Randy Davis) writes: >In article <speedy.155@engr.latech.edu> speedy@engr.latech.edu (Speedy Mercer) writes: >|In article <jnmoyne-190493111630@moustic.lbl.gov> jnmoyne@lbl.gov (Jean-Noel Moyne) writes: >|> What does "DWI" stand for ? I thought it was "DUI" for Driving Under >|>Influence, so here what does W stand for ? >| >|Driving While Intoxicated. > Actually, I beleive "DWI" normally means "Driving While Impaired" rather >than "Intoxicated", at least it does in the states I've lived in... >|This was changed here in Louisiana when a girl went to court and won her >|case by claiming to be stoned on pot, NOT intoxicated on liquor! > One can be imparied without necessarily being impaired by liquor - drugs, >not enough sleep, being a total moron :-), all can impair someone etc... I'm >surprised this got her off the hook... Perhaps DWI in Lousiana *is* confined >to liquor? Lets just say it is DUI here now! ----===== DoD #8177 = Technician(Dr. Speed) .NOT. Student =====---- Stolen Taglines... * God is real, unless declared integer. * * I came, I saw, I deleted all your files. * * Black holes are where God is dividing by zero. * * The world will end in 5 minutes. Please log out. * * Earth is 98% full.... please delete anyone you can. *
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Re: Question about Virgin Mary In article <May.5.02.53.08.1993.28877@athos.rutgers.edu> ddavis@cass.ma02.bull.com (Dave Davis) writes: > Since Mary was free from 'original sin' she > did not exactly die: 'at the end of her life' > (as the dogmatic prounouncement says) she > was assumed into heaven. The dogma of the Assumption does not state whether or not Mary died a physical death before being taken into Heaven. Catholics are free to believe what they wish, whether it be that she was taken still alive, or after having died. I lean somewhat toward the latter myself. - - - - - - - - - - Steve Creps, Indiana University creps@lateran.ucs.indiana.edu
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Re: Clipper Chip Questions In <1rmrm4$jvb@sol.TIS.COM> mjr@tis.com (Marcus J Ranum) writes: >[about scanning clipper and reverse-engineering the algorithm] >>Am I missing something obvious here? What could have the government done >>to address this possibility? Do they really care if it stays classified? > Yeah, you're missing the obvious fact that since the algorithm >is classified, if you reverse engineer it from the chip, and later >publish it, or build a compatible chip, you're divulging classified >information and are in a big load of trouble. I don't think they can do that without changing the law. The chip itself isn't classified, and reverse engineering is allowed by law (possibly) unless prohibited by a valid contract. The algorithm may be classified, but there are many court cases ruling that information identical to classfied information, but obtained from unclassified sources, is freely publishable (with the possible exception of nuclear weapon information.) -- Arthur L. Rubin: a_rubin@dsg4.dse.beckman.com (work) Beckman Instruments/Brea 216-5888@mcimail.com 70707.453@compuserve.com arthur@pnet01.cts.com (personal) My opinions are my own, and do not represent those of my employer.
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Round VS Elliptical DOT Screens When using Photoshop is there anyway to get an elliptical dot for the halftone screen rather than a round dot ? My printer would prefer an elliptical dot, but I'm not sure how to set it up. I'm sending from a Mac IIci to a Linotronic L300 imagesetter and I am using Photoshop 2.0.1 to make my separations. Any help would be greatly appreshed. T.I.A. Michael (Unscene) Michael Maier, Computer Artist, ANL | [|Ú]---*Z* Glued to the veiw. Email michael_maier@qmgate.anl.gov | "TV is the milk of Amnesia." Phone 708 252 5298 | Ñ Michael Maier
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Re: *** The list of Biblical contradictions critus
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Re: Why not concentrate on child molesters? In article <gc3g2B6w165w@honour.welly.gen.nz>, radagast@honour.welly.gen.nz (Radagast) writes: > cramer@optilink.COM (Clayton Cramer) writes: # # Unfortunately, homosexuals don't believe in this concept of freedom. # # They believe that they have a right to FORCE people to hire them, # # rent to them, and do business with them, regardless of the feelings # # or beliefs of the other person. # # <ha ha ha#, oh, Clayton, you're so good, so consistent, so predictable, # yup, that's right, they, these homosexual people want to FORCE you to # ignore what's none of your fucking business. IE. <I will explain slowly# # their sexual orientation should be irrelevant, as irrelevant as their # gender, skin colour, religious affiliation, attitude to hand-gun ownership, # etc. They want to FORCE you to hire the best person for the job, rent the # accomodation to the person who will look after it, do business with whoever # will make you money.. Yet, when a law was proposed for Virginia that extended this philosophy to cigarette smokers (so that people who smoked away from the work couldn't be discriminated against by employers), the liberal Gov. Wilder vetoed it. Which shows that liberals don't give a damn about "best person for the job," it's just a power play. -- Clayton E. Cramer {uunet,pyramid}!optilink!cramer My opinions, all mine! Relations between people to be by mutual consent, or not at all.
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Re: Who's next? Mormons and Jews? In <1993Apr21.045548.17418@news.cs.brandeis.edu> st922957@pip.cc.brandeis.edu (Arnold SK...) writes: >Y'know, when the right to bear arms was "invented", all we had to worry >about was the shotgun and pistol. Now, we have to worry about drive-bys >with Uzis sparaying the entire neighborhood with bullets. Not so, Arnie. You forget repeating arms (which include machine guns, gatling-style guns, etc...), cannon, rifles, and let's not forget the bullets they managed to use. Everything from rocks to lead to a couple iron balls with a chain between them. If you think warfare is brutal today, buddy you have no idea how brutal things can get. < Dan Sorenson, DoD #1066 z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu viking@iastate.edu > < ISU only censors what I read, not what I say. Don't blame them. > < USENET: Post to exotic, distant machines. Meet exciting, > < unusual people. And flame them. >
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Re: Serbian genocide Work of God? : You might want to re-think your attitude about the Holocaust after : reading Deuteronomy chapter 28. On the contrary, after the Holocaust, I would be _very_ cautious about my interpretatoin of Deuteronomy 28. Not everything that happens is in accordance with God's will. (You might guess which side of the predestination issue I am on.) I will never _assume_ that evil is punishment by God, especially when I am speaking of the evil that falls on _someone else_. For my own life, I will work to discern the hand of God in the evil that befalls _me_. See the discussion earlier on Luke 13. revdak@netcom.com (unreconstructed arminian)
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Athena Widgets Where do I find the Athena Widgets that are needed for xtdm-2.4.8 Thanks in advance
5comp.windows.x
Kings regular season schedule/results 1992-93 Los Angeles Kings Schedule/Results TV: --- 2 preseason games, 82 of 84 regular season and all playoffs on TV. (PT)= Prime Ticket, (5) = KTLA Channel 5, (7) = ABC Channel 7 - playoffs Radio: ------ All regular and preseason games broadcast on the Kings radio network. Southern California XTRA - 690am (flagship) Simi Valley KWNK - 670am Ankorage, Alaska KBYR - 700am El Centro KAMP - 1430am Fairbanks, Alaska KIAK - 970am Hemet/Temecula KHSJ - 1320am Lancaster/Palmdale KAVL - 610am Palm Desert KNWZ - 1270am Paso Robles KPRL - 1230am Reno, Nevada KPLY - 1270am Sacramento KSAC - 1240am San Luis Obispo KKAL - 1280am Santa Clarita KBET - 1220am Las Vegas, Nevada KENO - 1460am Preseason: ---------- September/October: 18 LA 3 vs VAN 3 @ Vancouver - 12,357 (0-0-1, 1 pt) 20 LA 5 vs PIT 2 @ Portland - 6,124 (1-0-1, 3 pts) (PT) 23 LA 3 vs PIT 3 @ Tacoma - ? (1-0-2, 4 pts) 24 LA 2 vs NYR 7 @ San Diego - 8,099 (1-1-2, 4 pts) (PT) 26 LA 2 vs NYR 6 @ Phoenix - 8,977 (1-2-2, 4 pts) 27 LA 4 vs SJ 2 @ Sacramento - 7,950 (2-2-2, 6 pts) 30 LA 2 vs VAN 5 @ The Forum - 10,250 (2-3-2, 6 pts) 03 LA 8 vs SJ 8 @ The Forum - 12,005 (3-3-2, 8 pts) -- -- Total 29 36 Regular Season: --------------- October: 06 LA 5 @ Calgary 4 (OT) - 19,461 ( 1- 0- 0, 2 pts) (PT) 08 LA 3 vs Detroit 5 - 16,005 ( 1- 1- 0, 2 pts) (PT) 10 LA 6 vs Winnipeg 3 - 14,509 ( 2- 1- 0, 4 pts) (PT) 13 LA 2 vs San Jose 1 - 14,320 ( 3- 1- 0, 6 pts) (PT) 15 LA 4 vs Calgary 0 - 15,133 ( 4- 1- 0, 8 pts) (PT) 17 LA 8 vs Boston 6 - 16,005 ( 5- 1- 0, 10 pts) (PT) 20 LA 2 @ Calgary 6 - 19,169 ( 5- 2- 0, 10 pts) (5) 23 LA 2 @ Winnipeg 4 - 12,924 ( 5- 3- 0, 10 pts) (PT) 24 LA 5 @ Minnesota 5 - 15,174 ( 5- 3- 1, 11 pts) (5) 27 LA 4 @ NY Islanders 3 - 10,259 ( 6- 3- 1, 13 pts) (PT) 29 LA 3 @ Boston 8 - 14,448 ( 6- 4- 1, 13 pts) (PT) 31 LA 7 @ Hartford 1 - 9,244 ( 7- 4- 1, 15 pts) (5) -- -- ----------------- Oct. 51 46 7- 4- 1, 15 pts November: 05 LA 5 vs New Jersey 2 - 14,592 ( 8- 4- 1, 17 pts) (PT) 07 LA 5 vs Buffalo 2 - 16,005 ( 9- 4- 1, 19 pts) (PT) 08 LA 11 @ San Jose 4 - 11,089 (10- 4- 1, 21 pts) (no tv) 10 LA 4 @ Winnipeg 4 - 12,831 (10- 4- 2, 22 pts) (PT) 12 LA 7 vs Vancouver 4 - 15,486 (11- 4- 2, 24 pts) (PT) 14 LA 6 vs Edmonton 2 - 16,005 (12- 4- 2, 26 pts) (PT) 16 LA 3 @ Vancouver 6 - 15,896 (12- 5- 2, 26 pts) (PT) 17 LA 0 @ San Jose 6 - 11,089 (12- 6- 2, 26 pts) (PT) 19 LA 4 vs Chicago 1 - 16,005 (13- 6- 2, 28 pts) (PT) 21 LA 6 vs Toronto 4 - 16,005 (14- 6- 2, 30 pts) (PT) 25 LA 3 @ Edmonton 1 - 13,636 (15- 6- 2, 32 pts) (no tv) 27 LA 5 @ Detroit 3 - 19,875 (16- 6- 2, 34 pts) (PT) 28 LA 2 @ Toronto 3 - 15,720 (16- 7- 2, 34 pts) (PT) -- -- ----------------- Nov. 61 42 9- 3- 1, 19 pts Year 112 88 December: 01 LA 6 @ Chicago 3 - 16,292 (17- 7- 2, 36 pts) at Milwaukee (PT) 03 LA 5 vs Pittsburgh 3 - 16,005 (18- 7- 2, 38 pts) (PT) 05 LA 7 vs Hartford 3 - 16,005 (19- 7- 2, 40 pts) (PT) 08 LA 5 vs Montreal 5 - 12,276 (19- 7- 3, 41 pts) at Phoenix (PT) 10 LA 4 vs Quebec 5 - 15,221 (19- 8- 3, 41 pts) (PT) 12 LA 6 vs St Louis 3 - 16,005 (20- 8- 3, 43 pts) (PT) 15 LA 2 vs Tampa Bay 3 - 15,753 (20- 9- 3, 43 pts) (PT) 18 LA 5 @ Edmonton 5 - 15,257 (20- 9- 4, 44 pts) (5) 19 LA 3 @ Calgary 5 - 20,214 (20-10- 4, 44 pts) (PT) 22 LA 2 vs Vancouver 6 - 16,005 (20-11- 4, 44 pts) (PT) 26 LA 2 @ San Jose 7 - 11,089 (20-12- 4, 44 pts) (5) 29 LA 2 vs Philadelphia 10 - 16,005 (20-13- 4, 44 pts) (PT) 31 LA 0 @ Vancouver 4 - 16,150 (20-14- 4, 44 pts) (PT) -- -- ----------------- Dec. 49 62 4- 7- 2, 10 pts Year 161 150 January: 02 LA 5 vs Montreal 5 - 16,005 (20-14- 5, 45 pts) (PT) 06 LA 3 vs Tampa Bay 6 - 16,005 (20-15- 5, 45 pts) (PT) 08 LA 3 @ Winnipeg 6 - 14,036 (20-16- 5, 45 pts) (5) 10 LA 5 @ Chicago 4 - 17,705 (21-16- 5, 47 pts) (5) 12 LA 3 @ Ottawa 2 - 10,500 (22-16- 5, 49 pts) (PT) 14 LA 1 @ New Jersey 7 - 13,586 (22-17- 5, 49 pts) (PT) 16 LA 2 vs Winnipeg 5 - 16,005 (22-18- 5, 49 pts) (PT) 19 LA 5 @ Edmonton 4 - 16,686 (23-18- 5, 51 pts) (PT) 21 LA 4 vs Vancouver 5 - 16,005 (23-19- 5, 51 pts) (PT) 23 LA 3 vs NY Rangers 8 - 16,005 (23-20- 5, 51 pts) (PT) 26 LA 7 vs San Jose 1 - 16,005 (24-20- 5, 53 pts) (PT) 28 LA 1 vs Calgary 2 - 16,005 (24-21- 5, 53 pts) (PT) 30 LA 2 vs Chicago 2 - 16,005 (24-21- 6, 54 pts) (PT) -- -- ----------------- Jan. 44 57 4- 7- 2, 10 pts Year 205 207 February: 02 LA 2 @ Quebec 3 - 14,843 (24-22- 6, 54 pts) (PT) 03 LA 2 @ Montreal 7 - 17,164 (24-23- 6, 54 pts) (PT) 09 LA 3 vs Edmonton 6 - 16,005 (24-24- 6, 54 pts) (PT) 11 LA 6 vs Detroit 6 - 16,005 (24-24- 7, 55 pts) (PT) 13 LA 3 vs Washington 10 - 16,005 (24-25- 7, 55 pts) (PT) 15 LA 3 vs Vancouver 0 - 16,005 (25-25- 7, 57 pts) (PT) 17 LA 10 @ Minnesota 5 - 14,911 (26-25- 7, 59 pts) (PT) 18 LA 2 @ Chicago 7 - 17,597 (26-26- 7, 59 pts) (PT) 20 LA 3 @ Washington 7 - 17,812 (26-27- 7, 59 pts) (PT) 22 LA 5 @ Tampa Bay 2 - 10,425 (27-27- 7, 61 pts) (PT) 25 LA 0 @ St Louis 3 - 13,473 (27-28- 7, 61 pts) (PT) 27 LA 2 vs Toronto 5 - 16,005 (27-29- 7, 61 pts) (PT) -- -- ----------------- Feb. 41 61 3- 8- 1, 7 pts Year 246 268 March: 02 LA 6 vs Calgary 2 - 16,005 (28-29- 7, 63 pts) (PT) 04 LA 8 vs Ottawa 6 - 16,005 (29-29- 7, 65 pts) (PT) 06 LA 6 vs Edmonton 1 - 16,005 (30-29- 7, 67 pts) (PT) 09 LA 3 @ NY Rangers 4 - 18,200 (30-30- 7, 67 pts) (PT) 11 LA 3 @ Pittsburgh 4 - 16,164 (30-31- 7, 67 pts) (PT) 13 @ Philadelphia - Postponed after 1 period (1-1) due to weather. Resch for 4/1 14 @ Buffalo - Postponed due to weather. Rescheduled for 3/15. 15 LA 4 @ Buffalo 2 - 13,799 (31-31- 7, 69 pts) (PT) 16 LA 8 vs Winnipeg 4 - 16,005 (32-31- 7, 71 pts) (PT) 18 LA 7 vs NY Islanders 4 - 16,005 (33-31- 7, 73 pts) (PT) 20 LA 3 vs St Louis 2 - 16,005 (34-31- 7, 75 pts) (PT) 24 LA 2 @ Vancouver 6 - 16,150 (34-32- 7, 75 pts) (5) 26 LA 4 @ Edmonton 1 - 17,503 (35-32- 7, 77 pts) (5) 28 LA 3 @ Winnipeg 3 - 15,566 (35-32- 8, 78 pts) (PT) 29 LA 9 @ Detroit 3 - 19,875 (36-32- 8, 80 pts) (5) 31 LA 5 @ Toronto 5 - 15,720 (36-32- 9, 81 pts) (PT) -- -- ----------------- Mar. 71 47 9- 3- 2, 20 pts Year 317 315 April: 01 LA 3 @ Philadelphia 1 - 17,380 (37-32- 9, 83 pts) (PT) rescheduled 03 LA 0 vs Minnesota 3 - 16,005 (37-33- 9, 83 pts) (PT) 06 LA 3 vs Calgary 3 - 16,005 (37-33-10, 84 pts) (PT) 08 LA 2 vs San Jose 1 - 16,005 (38-33-10, 86 pts) (PT) 10 LA 3 @ San Jose 2 (OT) - 11,089 (39-33-10, 88 pts) (PT) 13 LA 4 @ Vancouver 7 - 16,150 (39-34-10, 88 pts) (PT) 15 LA 6 vs Vancouver 8 - 16,005 (39-35-10, 88 pts) (PT) -- -- ----------------- Apr. 21 25 3- 3- 1, 7 pts Year 338 340 39-35-10, 88 pts - 3rd Smythe, 11th overall Playoffs: --------- April: 18 @ Calgary - 12:00 noon (7) 21 @ Calgary - 6:30 pm (PT) 23 vs Calgary - 7:30 pm (PT) 25 vs Calgary - 12:00 noon (7)** *27 @ Calgary - 6:30 pm (PT) *29 vs Calgary - 7:30 pm (PT) May: *01 @ Calgary - 6:30 pm (PT) all times listed are Pacific Time. *if necessary. ** may be shown on ABC, if televised by Prime Ticket, time is 7:30 pm. =============================================================================== Stan Willis (willis@empire.dnet.hac.com) net contact: L.A. 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10rec.sport.hockey
Re: Players Rushed to Majors In article <1993Apr15.145753.21557@holos0.uucp>, lbr@holos0.uucp (Len Reed) writes: > In article <C5Hq3o.G4p@tss.com> hanson@tss.com (Hanson Loo) writes: > >Didn't Bob Horner go straight from Arizona State Univ. > >to the Atlanta Braves? I remember he had one great > >month hitting dingers and then the next I heard > >he was in Japan. > A month? Well, he did have a short career--compared to what one might > have expected for such a highly touted prospect--due to being injury prone, > overweight, and having no work ethic. But he certainly did not > suffer from being rushed to the bigs. Sorry Len, this is exactly how he suffered from being rushed to the bigs. Being overweight and having no work ethic, leading to being injury prone with nothing to loose, might have been corrected in Richmond. (Did you intend a smiley after your comment?) This brings back the long suffering memories of pre-chop Braves fans who kept being promised the Bob Horner - Dale Murphy back to back power slam. Who could stop that? Guess we'll never know. P.S. - Rocky fans (are there any yet?) Is Dale getting any playing time out there? I plan to be at the game on June 28th, they'll have to play him then. -- "Read that to memory and process it!" - RUSSELL EARNEST Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332 uucp: ...!{allegra,amd,hplabs,seismo,ut-ngp}!gatech!prism!re4 ARPA: russell.earnest@housing.gatech.edu
9rec.sport.baseball
Re: Genocide is Caused by Theism : Evidence? In article <1qibo2$f4o@horus.ap.mchp.sni.de> frank@D012S658.uucp (Frank O'Dwyer) writes: > >#>In the absence of some convincing evidence that theist fanatics are more >#>dangerous than atheist fanatics, I'll continue to be wary of fanatics of >#>any stripe. ># >#I think that the agnostic fanatics are the most dangerous of the lot. > >Fair point, actually. I mentioned theists and atheists, but left out >agnostics. Mea culpa. > No wonder in the light of that you are a probably a theist who tries to pass as an agnostic. I still remember your post about your daughter singing Chrismas Carols and your feelings of it well. By the way, would you show marginal honesty and answer the many questions you left open when you ceased to respond last time? Benedikt
0alt.atheism
Searching CAD-software Hi out there! I'm looking for (mechanic-construction)CAD-software either PD-sources or Sun 3-binaries (respective the licence.. :-). Who knows _ANY_ package (and a source/site to get it..) ? Thx, Fabian -- Fabian Hoppe Phone : ++49 2332 12580 Elsternstr. 57 Fax : ++49 2332 83741 W-5820 Gevelsberg EMail : fabian@vivian.w.open.de Germany
5comp.windows.x
service indicator of a BMW Does anyone know how to reset the service indicator of a BMW after changing the oil yourself? Also, I have about 3,000 miles on my 525i and so far only one of the five yellow service indicators went out. That means I don't need oil service until it reach approximatly 15,000 miles which doesn't make sense to me. Any idea? PS of cause I did my first oil change at 1,200 miles Derek
7rec.autos
Re: Canucks clinch, Bure to score 20 playoff goals In a previous article, steveg@cadkey.com (Steve Gallichio) says: > >Ron Apland (apland@mala.bc.ca) writes: >> Quinn will resign as head coach (this is no secret) and HOPEFULLY they will >> BRING IN someone who looks at the game spatially and institutes some team >> disciplined play. How about Keenan? Give him what he wants, GM and Coach, >> and have Quinn upstairs as president. > >I was under the impression that Rick Ley was in line for the Canucks job >should Quinn step off the bench. Ley coached in the Canucks' organization BRING BACK HARRY! (NEALE) At least he was witty... -- ad215@freenet.carleton.ca (Rachel Holme)]
10rec.sport.hockey
ATM I've been reading, with much confusion, about whether or not to use ATManager. Lately, all the packages I've been buying have all included ATManager as a "bonus" I do some desktop publishing using PageMaker and Coreldraw. Coreldraw comes with a nifty laser disk that contains over 200 diff types. Add that to the TTfonts that come with win31 and you have a decent amount of fonts. I print my creations out on an HP4 Postcript, at 600 dpi resolution with the "Resolution Enhancement Technology" and .. well ... I get some darn good copies. So good that there isn't any diff whether or not ATManager is turned on or not. Is it worth it to run ATM at all? Especially with these better printer technologies ... and TT? -- -- avDean
2comp.os.ms-windows.misc
Software Development Libs for Old TARGA-16 Boards I am revamping some computer-aided visual inspection systems which use the old AT&T Targa-16 Board Set (2 cards) to display images from a color CCD camera to a color monitor, providing the option to overlay text or a crosshair. No image capture or manipulation is performed, just display. I would like to know if there is still a source for development libraries which would allow me to embed commands in my own software to enable the camera, draw crosshairs, print text, etc. I'll be glad to pay if they are commercially available. E-Mail if possible. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Joe Ryburn | CIM Manager | Intergraph Corporation | Manufacturing Integration | Huntsville, AL 35894 ----------------------------------------------------------------
1comp.graphics
Re: Toyota Land Cruiser worth it? In article <1r3sbbINN8e0@hp-col.col.hp.com>, tvervaek@col.hp.com (Tom Vervaeke) wrote: > > My wife and I looked at, and drove one last fall. This was a 1992 model. > It was WAYYYYYYYYY underpowered. I could not imagine driving it in the > mountains here in Colorado at anything approaching highway speeds. I > have read that the new 1993 models have a newer, improved hp engine. > > I'm quite serious that I laughed in the salesman face when he said "once > it's broken in it will feel more powerful". I had been used to driving a > Jeep 4.0L 190hp engine. I believe the 92's Land Cruisers (Land Yachts) > were 3.0L, the sames as the 4Runner, which is also underpowered (in my The 91 and 92 Cruisers run the 4.0L straight 6 which only has about 150hp and 220lb-ft of torque. Plenty off-highway, marginal on the highway. The 93 has a much improved 4.2L straight 6 with >200hp and 275ft-lb torque. > They are big cars, very roomy, but nothing spectacular. If you take them on rough trails, you'll see the difference. The Cruiser is an order of magnitude better in off-highway ability. Jim Chott 85 Toyota 4WD pickup rzaa80@email.sps.mot.com 72 LeMans Sport Convertible Tempe, Arizona
7rec.autos
Re: Gulf War (was Re: Death Penalty was Re: Political Atheists?) mccullou@snake2.cs.wisc.edu (Mark McCullough) writes: > I looked back at this, and asked some questions of various people and > got the following information which I had claimed and you pooh-poohed. > The US has not sold Iraq any arms. What about the land mines which have already been mentioned? > other countries (like Kuwait). Information is hard to prove. You are > claiming that the US sold information? Prove it. [...] Information > is hard to prove, almost certainly if the US did sell information, then that > fact is classified, and you can't prove it. Oh, very neat. Dismiss everything I say unless I can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt something which you yourself admit I can never prove to your satisfaction. Thanks, I'll stick to squaring circles. mathew
0alt.atheism
Re: Canon BJ200 (BubbleJet) and HP DeskJet 500... In article <C64n5K.L45@vcd.hp.com> robertt@vcd.hp.com (Bob Taylor) writes: >Justin Whitton (ma90jjw%isis@ajax.rsre.mod.uk) wrote: >: In article <C60EKI.Kvp@vcd.hp.com> edmoore@vcd.hp.com (Ed Moore) writes: >: >: thomas.d.fellrath.1@nd.edu@nd.edu wrote: >: >: I think the ink now used in the DeskJet family is water-fast. >: >: I've had pictures ruined by a few drops of rain. These were colour pictures >: from a DeskJet 500C. Mind you, it could have been acid rain:-) > >The black ink is waterfast, but the color isn't > >: >: I use a BJ10ex. Ink dries fast, but it really doesn't like getting wet. >: >: -- >: /-----------------------------------------------------------------------------\ >: |Justin Whitton at ma90jjw%hermes@uk.mod.relay |Where no man has gone before..| >: |after August mail ma90jjw@brunel.ac.uk. \------------------------------| >: |Disclaimer: My opinions count for nothing, except when the office is empty. | >: |I'm a student => intelligence = 0. | >: \-----------------------------------------------------------------------------/ > >Bob Taylor >HP Vancouver >
2comp.os.ms-windows.misc
Re: Choice of gauges If I'm going to drive on a public road then I need a speedometer, and an odometer helps for navigation. My 1965 Chevy has a bare minimum: Engine-temp and Oil-press warning lights and a fuel gauge. My 1983 VW has tach, water-temp, voltmeter and oil-temp gauges. If I had a turbo car, I'd want a vacuum manifold/boost gauge. An oil pressure gauge is a nice, reassuring gauge to look at. If my car was air cooled, then I would substitute a cyl-head-temp gauge for the water-temp gauge. A few years ago, I looked at the Audi Quattro Si Coupe that Bobby Unser used to win the 1986 Pikes Peak Hill Climb. The gauge layout, from left to right, top to bottom was: ---------------------------------- speedometer ---------------------------------- fuel tranny press temp ---------------------------------- differential water temp temp ---------------------------------- big orange tach oil-press warning light ---------------------------------- oil-temp boost ---------------------------------- oil-press ---------------------------------- Alex amiller@almaden.ibm.com
7rec.autos
Re: emm386 and windows In article <ardie.313.736188058@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> ardie@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Ardie Mack) writes: > >On my PC I almost exclusively run windows. The only dos based application > >I have is ProcommPlus. In my config.sys I have emm386 loaded with the > >option noems (no expanded memory). Following a thread in one of the comp > >newsgroups, I read that it was no necessary to have emm386 loaded. Indeed, > >in the manual, it says that emm386 is used to get expanded memory out of > >extended memory. Since I have the noems option, it seems to me that the > >emm386 device is useless in my case. > > > >Should I use emm386 or should I remove it from my config.sys? > > > >Thanks for your help, > > > >-Eric > > emm386 noems enables the system to use the "upper memory" between 640 and > 1024. That's a good place for device drivers, DOS kernal, etc. > (Keep it in!) Well, I thought that highmem.sys would do that too. I just took out emm386 of my config.sys, and I'm still loading my other drivers high (mouse, vga shadow bios, dos-key etc.) I haven't checked mem/c, but I believe I have managed to load them high (ie between 640KB and 1024KB). Also, ever since I took out emm386, windows loads slightly faster, I get about 3 extra meg of freemem in windows (I'm running 386 enhanced with 4 Meg RAM, 7 Meg swap) and I got rid of my ctrl-alt del reboot problem (before, the computer would not reboot using ctrl-alt-del after exiting windows). I would really like to keep emm386 out of my config.sys. Anybody else have info on this??? -Eric
2comp.os.ms-windows.misc
Braves offensive offense Deion Sanders hit a home run in his only AB today. Nixon was 1 for 4. Infield single. Deion's batting over .400 Nixon: around .200. Whom would YOU start? Wise up, Bobby. See y'all at the ballyard Go Braves Chop Chop Michael Mule' -- Michael Andre Mule Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332 uucp: ...!{decvax,hplabs,ncar,purdue,rutgers}!gatech!prism!gt0523e Internet: gt0523e@prism.gatech.edu
9rec.sport.baseball
Information needed... Hi! This is my first time to post on this news group. Now a days , I have stucked at a certain problem. I have '88 mazda mx-6, non turbo fuel injection. There is a engine warning signal on the dash board. While driving, this signal turns on, but not always. What does this mean? In the manual, they say "Go to authorized mazda dealer.". It is really good idea. Don't you think so? I wanna know how the engine warning signal comes. Is anybody out there who can give me same advice as "authorized mazda dealer" can give ? Youjip Won yjwon@cs.umn.edu
7rec.autos
Re: Is MSG sensitivity superstition? Betty Harvey writes, > I am not a researcher or a medical person but it amazes me that > when they can't find a scientific or a known fact they automatically > assume that the reaction is psychological. It is mind boggling. This, simply stated, is a result of the bankrupt ethics in the healthcare and scientific medicine industries. America is fed up with the massive waste and fraud that is costing us 15% of our GNP to support these industries, while delivering marginal health care to the community. Unfortunately, the "Clinton Plan", in whatever form it takes, will probably cost us an even greater sum. Bleah. Steve
13sci.med
Re: Rawlins debunks creationism In article <30147@ursa.bear.com>, halat@panther.bears (Jim Halat) writes: >In article <1r15rvINNh8p@ctron-news.ctron.com>, king@ctron.com (John E. King) writes: >> >> >>adpeters@sunflower.bio.indiana.edu (Andy Peters) writes: >> >>>> Macroevolution is >>>> a mixture of 15 percent science and 85 percent religion [guaranteed >>>> within three percent error :) ] >> > >To repeat what I had said in an earlier post: Evolution is >a theory. If you accept it as fact, then that is faith and >not much different from religion. If you accept it as the >theory it is, then there is 0% religion involved and it >can be quite useful in the realm of science. > >Simply put, evolution/creation when each is looked at >properly -- theory/assertion not fact/fiction -- is a >specific example of exactly what separates soft athiesm >and science from religion. > >-jim halat To repeat what I said in an earlier post: Evolution is theory and fact. If you accept the facts, then that is a display of reason and intelligence and much different from anachronistic religion. If you assess the theories of evolution objectively, then there can be 0% religion involved and evolution remains useful in the realm of science. Simply put, evolution/creation when each is looked at properly - theory/fact vs. assertion/fiction - is a specific example of exactly what separates reason and science from nonsense. Rich Fox, Anthro, Usouthdakota
0alt.atheism
Re: the hawks WILL return to the finals!!!!! The Hawks won the Norris div, and sealed their fate. It's bad luck to win the Norris. The Hawks will sweep the Blues in their dreams but will lose in 6 in reality. I predict that in the 6 game with the Blues Belfour will go down on his knees 7000 time s and will spend the rest of the time looking behind him self. Butcher will pound Roenick and The warthawks have no one tough enough to prevent it Bye Bye Wart HAwks
10rec.sport.hockey
Re: LC III NuBus Capable? mmiller@garnet.msen.com (Marvin Miller) writes: >My friend recently purchased a LC III and he wants to know if there is >such a demon called NuBus adapter for his PDS slot? CompUsa and >ComputerCity Supercenter says they don't carry them. >Does this mean LC III is incapable of carrying a NuBus board? Yes. That is exactly what it means. The LC family of Macs can only use PDS cards. They are not able to use NuBus. -Hades
4comp.sys.mac.hardware
68HC16 public domain software? Does anyone know of an FTP site where I might find public domain software for the Motorola 68HC16 microprocessor? I am looking for a basic interpreter/compilier or a 'C' compiler. Thanks in advance. Ed Murashie ------------------ Ed Murashie US Mail : Beckman Instruments Inc. phone: (714) 993-8895 Diagnostic System Group fax: (714) 961-3759 200 S. Kraemer Blvd W-361 Internet: murashiea@mail.beckman.com Brea, Ca 92621
12sci.electronics
Re: The Kuebelwagen??!! In article <C5K5Co.F09@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> thwang@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Tommy Hwang) writes: > Sorry for the mis-spelling, but I forgot how to spell it after >my series of exams and NO-on hand reference here. > > Is it still possible to get those cute WWII VW Jeep-wanna-be's? >A replica would be great I think. > > -TKH '93 The VW "Thing" Kubelwagen lookalike is still manufactured in Mexico and possibly South America. Good luck importing one-- They probably don't meet US safety and pollution requirements. There are mechanics and junkyards which specialize in VW; they might be helpful for finding a "Thing" unless the WWII re-enacters have grabbed them all. The WWII Kubelwagen was the German equivalent of the Jeep, but was not 4- wheel drive. One is on display at the Patton Museum at Fort Knox, Kentucky, also the rare "Schwimwagen" (sp?) amphibious version, in full-scale dioramas. Highly recommended! -- Frank reid@ucs.indiana.edu
7rec.autos
$1bil space race ideas/moon base on the cheap. That is an idea.. The most efficient moon habitat.. also the idea of how to get the people off the moon once the prize was won.. Also the idea of how to rescue someone who is "dying" on the moon. Maybe have a area where they can all "see" each other, and can help each other if something happens.. I liek the idea of one prize for the first moon landing and return, by a non-governmental body.. Also the idea of then having a moon habitat race.. I know we need to do somthing to get people involved.. Eccentric millionaire/billionaire would be nice.. We see how old Ross feels about it.. After all it would be a great promotional thing and a way to show he does care about commericalization and the people.. Will try to broach the subject to him.. Moonbase on the cheap is a good idea.. NASA and friends seem to take to much time and give us to expensive stuff that of late does not work (hubble and such). Basically what is the difference between a $1mil peice of junk and a multi $1mil piece of junk.. I know junk.. == Michael Adams, nsmca@acad3.alaska.edu -- I'm not high, just jacked
14sci.space
Boston Church (Dear Moderator: Would you add this to the BCC faq?) In case there are any ex-members of the "Boston Church of Christ" looking for a support organization, here's the number of "BostonEX" in Burlington, MA: 617-272-1955. -------- s.r.c readers in New England may be interested in seeing a series of news reports about the BCC in the 6 pm nightly news on Channel 5 (WCVB, Boston), for the next few days (starting Wed, 5/19). For viewers outside the Boston area, the same telecasts will also be aired on the "New England Cable News" channel at 8 pm.
15soc.religion.christian
How can I change sun/cgthree fb writes to dword? Hello Xperts out there. I've just built X11R5 for SunOS 4.1.1/SPARC. I have gcc-2.2 and I'd like to use its 64-bit capability to generate an X11 release which will render to the frame buffer using store-double (64-bit) machine code. Can anyone tell me which directories/source files/ compiler switches to begin with? thanks in advance -- - Spencer Greene +1 408 727 5445 - - Nimbus Technology Inc. sgreene@nimbus.com - - Santa Clara, California USA {sgiblab,ub-gate}!c2tech!sgreene - - "Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel." --Dr. Samuel Johnson -
5comp.windows.x
Re: ATF BURNS DIVIDIAN RANCH! NO SURVIVORS!!! mhamilto@Nimitz.mcs.kent.edu (The Lawnmowerman) writes: >In article <93109.13404334AEJ7D@CMUVM.BITNET>, <34AEJ7D@CMUVM.BITNET> writes: > "GENOCIDAL MASS-SLAUGHTER OF INNOCENT PEOPLE". Besides there are nine > survivors in the burn-unit of the local hospital and was reported that David > was in one of the towers when the shit hit the fan. Besides, a majority of > these children were children that he was supposed to have been the father of, > this then makes them bastard children to a sacraligious zeloit (sp). Also > someone should have told David and his followers that if they can't the heat > then they should stay out of the kitchen!! (pun intended) I guess you need to be reminded of some things! Have you ever heard of the First Amendment? I guess not. It isn't a crime to be a religous (I know you said "sacraligious", but it isn't your place to judge his religion) zealot in this country. REMEMBER we have freedom of religion in this country! I guess you are selective in that respect! So what if they were "bastard" children. They were CHILDREN! Do you condone their deaths? I pray for your lack of a soul if you do! -- John B. Meaders, Jr. "Gun Control is being able to hit your target!" 8820 Southwestern Blvd. #1103, Dallas, TX 75206 VoiceMail: 214-750-0273 UUCPMail: karnak!johnm InterNet: johnm@karnak.lonestar.org
16talk.politics.guns
For Sale: 386/25MHz motherboard (or system) with 8 megabytes I recently upgraded to a 486 and have found out I don't really have a need for my old 386. I'd prefer to sell just the motherboard and keep the case etc, so I'll offer the motherboard and case separately and let you decide. I'm asking $325 for the motherboard, which has: 25Mhz 386 DX (not SX) 8 megabytes of 32-bit, 70ns memory AMI BIOS based on C&T NEAT chipset (this means the motherboard and bus circuitry timings are programmable - the BIOS' advanced configuration menus let you select system, DMA, bus clock, wait states, command delays, etc.) "baby AT" sized - fits in mini-tower, full-sized or most any other case (Includes User's Guide and a copy of the BIOS reference manual) For $150 more you could have the rest of the system too: full-size AT case with 200(?) watt power supply 2 serial, 1 parallel, 1 game ports 20Mb hard disk 1.2Mb floppy disk keyboard video card (choice of VGA or ???) If you're interested, please give me a call. The system is set up at my house in Aloha, and you're welcome to come test drive it. Random drivel from the keyboard of: +---+ Brad Davis, NCD Inc, Beaverton OR | | Network Computing Devices bradd@pcx.ncd.com (503) 642-9927 |NCD| PC-XDivision (office)(503) 671-8431 +---+
6misc.forsale
Re: How to act in front of traffic jerks being a mere female, I have often found I can't really take the big offensive line with asshole car drivers, so I found a more subtle and nastly ooops I mean nasty way to get back at them. If somebody cuts you up, just wait till they have pulled out past you, and then gently lean over and bend their aerial, every time I have done that it has eventually snapped off near the base - which tends to go undetected for a while and is a bummer to replace. gillian
8rec.motorcycles
Borderline! In article <1993Apr21.222206.502069@sue.cc.uregina.ca> franks@hercules.cs.uregina.ca (Derek Franks) writes: >I was wondering if anyone on the net knows where/when the 1993 Wing Ding >is? If so, would you please e-mail/post the info? > >I've never been to one and have some free time this summer and >am considering attending. Anyone else? > vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv VVVVVVVVVV >This is my first post, so no DoD#. > >'82 Aspencade (2nd one) Getting close there! o&o> o&o> o&o> o&o> o&o> o&o> o&o> o&o> o&o> o&o> o&o> o&o> o&o> Rob Castro | email - rdc8@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu | Live for today 1983 KZ550LTD | phone - (212) 854-7617 | For today you live! DoD# NYC-1 | New York, New York, USA | RC (tm)
8rec.motorcycles
Russian Phobos Mission Did the Russian spacecraft(s) on the ill-fated Phobos mission a few years ago send back any images of the Martian moon? If so, does anyone know if they're housed at an ftp site? Thanks.
14sci.space
Upgrade from 286 to 486 help needed!!! Greetings, Please forgive me if this is FAQ. If there is source on this kind of info, please let me know. I just got a 286 station (around 21*16.5*7 in dimension), and I am thinking about upgrade it to a 486 or 386. The station has a power supply, two floppy disk drives, and the big case. I have SONY 1304 monitor, SyQuest drive (Mac), and maybe a cd-rom reader (Mac) for it. Here are the questions I have so far: 1) Is there a 486 motherboard at this dimension that I could use the case? 2) The original owener has the controller for floppy drive and hard disk removed. Can I use them to control these devices under 486? How much do I have to pay for a new controllers if the old ones won't work? 3) How can I make SyQuest (SCSI) and cd-rom (SCSI) work on this station? I heard that there is a cheap sound board that has SCSI controller built-in? What's quality of this board? How much usually does a SCSI control cost? Is there any ftp sites that has SyQuest driver or cd-rom driver for the PC if I can have everything hooked up OK?4) What I want is a 486 motherboard, a sound board to make it a MPC- quality station. How much would it cost to do that? Is it worth the hussle than just buy a new 486 station? BTW, I need to buy a keyboard for it too. Any input is welcome. Thank you. Peter Liu
3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Bitmaps of team logos I heard they were posted somewhere, but I can not find them. Please e-mail location. Thanks, -Jody -- Jody Hagins -- hagins@avlin8.us.dg.com Data General Corporation, Linthicum, MD Rock, River, Tree, Mastodon.
9rec.sport.baseball
Re: TechWorks -- What You Say? Well, although this may be an uncommon occurrence (or not) I had a "bad" experience with TechWorks. This past summer I upgraded (increased) the memory in a powerbook and a ci. When I called to place the order for the PB RAM, I was told by the sales person that they would give me a $50 rebate if I would return the original RAM (which was also TechWorks RAM.) I followed the instructions for returning the old RAM, expecting to see a credit on my VISA within a few weeks. Well, months went by, and no credit. After many calls (almost none of which were ever returned - arghhh) I finally found someone who told me "Why we never received your old chips." I then explained I the procedure that I had followed to return them, to which the person replied "You mean you sent them US Mail?" (which I had, per the original sales person's instructions.) I was told that they their loss of US mail shipments is not uncommon (come on) and that I should have sent the stuff via FedEx, etc. I reasoned that I had done exactly what I had been told to, but they would not budge, the people I spoke with were absolutely no help. I sent letters, copies of the original receipts, attempted to trace the package through the US mail, made *many* more phone calls to TechWorks, all to no avail (I wouldn't give-up because I was so disgusted.) Sales/support people, supervisors, there was nothing I could do to pursuade them to "make it right." I finally (in total disgust) wrote a letter to my credit card company, asking them to investigate the problem. Three weeks later, the credit miraculously appeared on my statement. I have not (in recent memory) been so disgusted with the service that I received from a company. In all fairness, they had no way of knowing that was not trying to rip them off, but I went to *such* great lengths to prove to them that this really happened. Oh well, c'est la vie. I will never buy another product from them again. (There - had to get that off my chest!)
4comp.sys.mac.hardware
Re: Gamma Ray Burst Mystery >>>>> On Tue, 27 Apr 1993 00:39:20 GMT, sarfatti@netcom.com (Jack Sarfatti) said: js> Question: what is the power spectrum of the bursts. Are their sharp lines? js> If so, can they be interpreted as blue-shifted atomic or molecular lines? Don't remember the spectra, but have seen some autocorrelation functions recently. The ACFs show correlation times of milliseconds to 10s of seconds; interestingly, the higher energies show a shorter correlation time. js> Can electron-positron annihilation gammas be seen in the bursts? Are they js> red shifted or blue shifted? I believe there were claims from an earlier satellite (Ginga?) of detection of cyclotron absorption lines. These lines were taken as strong evidence for neutron stars being the objects responsible for GRBs since the magnetic field indicated was 1.0E12, fairly typical for a neutron star. However, Compton GRO has not seen any of these lines and I get the impression that many are beginning to doubt whether these lines were ever real. js> Since the bursts are isotropic and maybe in the galactic halo they may js> be saying something about dark matter in the halo. *If* the bursts are in the halo, they most certainly are saying something about dark matter there. However, if they are in the halo, in order that they appear isotropic, the "core radius" of the halo (i.e. the innermost region of the halo) has to be greater than about 50 kpc. The halo itself would stretch much further than this. Since the Andromeda Galaxy is only 700 kpc away, we should be seeing bursts from that galaxy's halo, which we aren't. js> If the bursts are something like the cosmic black body radiation from js> way back then where are the red shifts - I mean cosmological red shifts? Remember to get a redshift, one needs some type of emission or absorption line so one can compare the observed line frequency to the rest line frequency. Since no lines are seen in GRB spectra, that comparison cannot be made. -- | e-mail: lazio@astrosun.tn.cornell.edu T. Joseph Lazio | phone: (607) 255-6420 | ICBM: 42 deg. 20' 08" N 76 deg. 28' 48" W Cornell knows I exist?!? | STOP RAPE
14sci.space
Re: Vandalizing the sky. In article <C5t05K.DB6@research.canon.oz.au> enzo@research.canon.oz.au (Enzo Liguori) writes: >From the article "What's New" Apr-16-93 in sci.physics.research: > >........ >WHAT'S NEW (in my opinion), Friday, 16 April 1993 Washington, DC > >1. SPACE BILLBOARDS! IS THIS ONE THE "SPINOFFS" WE WERE PROMISED? >In 1950, science fiction writer Robert Heinlein published "The >Man Who Sold the Moon," which involved a dispute over the sale of >rights to the Moon for use as billboard. NASA has taken the firsteps toward this > hideous vision of the future. Observers were >startled this spring when a NASA launch vehicle arrived at the >pad with "SCHWARZENEGGER" painted in huge block letters on the >side of the booster rockets. Things could be worse. A lot worse! In the mid-eighties the teen/adult sci-fi comic 2000AD (Fleetway) produced a short story featuring the award winning character "Judge Dredd". The story focussed on an advertising agency of the future who use high powered multi-coloured lasers/search lights pointed at the moon to paint images on the moon. Needless to say, this use hacked off a load of lovers, romantics and werewolfs/crazies. The ad guys got chopped, the service discontinued. A cautionary tale indeed! Marvin Batty. -- **************************************************************************** Marvin Batty - djf@uk.ac.cov.cck "And they shall not find those things, with a sort of rafia like base, that their fathers put there just the night before. At about 8 O'clock!"
14sci.space
Re: The Universe and Black Holes, was Re: 2000 years..... In article <1qvmk2$csk@morrow.stanford.edu> salem@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Bruce Salem) writes: > (Wouldn't it be nice if Subject: lines had something to do >with nessage bodies!) Yes. > I wonder if the Universe would look like a Black Hole >from "outside"? How could we posit an "Outside", whether called >DeSitter space, hyperspace, parallel universes, whatever? I don't think that the universe would look like a black hole from the outside, because that would imply that similar to a black hole we would see stuff coming in from the "outside." > Suppose that such a space existed, and that our universe >looked like a Black Hole in it. Then our Universe could be open >to it through Hawking radiation, the same way Black Holes are >within our Universe. Note this is all the purist speculation >and noone knows what laws govern QM beyond the event horizon >of our universe. Can laws change at such boundaries of space-time? I am personally convinced that what we call our "universe" is only a small part of a larger system. Further, I think that it is logically necessary for the laws of our universe be confined to this universe itself. Why do I believe this? It is simple; I believe that the odds against there being only one universe and that universe having the right conditions to support us are infinate. I believe that to explain our existance in this universe it is necessary to either consider multiple universes (an infinate number of them) or intelligent design. Since the only intelligence that we know of is of a higher order than simple matter (the brain is made of matter) by Ockham's razor I go for the first choice. What's more, there are a couple of books out dealing with popular science that use parallel universes and holographic universes (which is another way of saying parallel) to explain the behavior of particals at the quantum level. One is called Parallel Universes, and I think it is by Wolf, the other The Holographic Universe. BTW, the parallel universe approach implys an element of mind in the very physical reality of the universe. >Bruce Salem > eric
0alt.atheism
Re: Weitek P9000 Future Plans In article <1993Apr13.000531.25096@jetsun.weitek.COM> robert@weitek.COM (Robert Plamondon) writes: >In article <1q0n5pINN60m@uniko.uni-koblenz.de> hodgen@ozzy.uni-koblenz.de (Wayne Hodgen) writes: > >>To sum up, when an accelerated board with 4MB VRAM (True Colour 1280x1024) >>AND A FAST VGA SIDE is available under $500, I will buy one. > >Me too! > >What's funny is, when we really CAN buy such a product, it probably won't >seem as mouth-watering as it does today. "What? No holograms? Get outta >here!" I can wait 'cos I've already got an accelerated card. It does 1280x1024 but only 16 colour. You may mock me, but such cards will be here quickly enough. >One of the odd things about the computer industry is that, since you can >always wait and get something better, some people wait forever. I know >people who have deferred updating their original IBM PC for a decade, >because every time they look at what's available, they see something better >coming down the road. I know people who've dumped their PCs into the >garage, but haven't replaced them, because they're afraid it isn't "the >right time to buy." They just gave up using computers. I only wait when the difference between my current system and the new stuff is big enough to warrant changing. For instance, I'll be upgrading my 486 33 to a 486DX-2 66 EISA, VLB board RSN. The performance difference (under Linux) is great enough to be worthwhile. At the same time I'll be buying a new graphic card and new SCSI controller. I'll be buying an S3 card 'cos they're fast enough, I have X11 drivers for them and it'll have 2MB VRAM just like a Weitek 9000 card. It will also be MUCH cheaper. When affordable 4MB cards arrive, I'll buy one. >Personally, my system at home needs a new disk subsystem, a much >larger monitor, a super-fast graphics board by you-know-who, a new >CPU board -- I probably won't keep much more than the case and the >mouse. Come to think of it, I don't like that mouse very much. So >when will I buy? When my dream products hit the market? NO WAY! I'm >gonna buy as soon as I have the MONEY! Over the last year I've done much the same. But now I need a 19" monitor, more memory (20MB just ain't enough), a GB disk (1.2GB and no space left...). Oh well, stay single, don't smoke and you may afford it this year ;-) -- Wayne Hodgen | hodgen@infko.uni-koblenz.de | Opinions (c) Me 1991 | Intel SX Uni Koblenz, | (..!unido!infko!hodgen) | Keeper of the Scrolls, | Just Rheinau 3-4, | Voice: +49 261 9119-645 | Defender of the Net, | say 5400 Koblenz. | Fax: +49 261 9119-499 | His name is "root". | NO!!!
3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
dont have harddisk type 47 .... Hello, a friend a mine has a commodore 386sx and we've put in that machine a second harddisk, he now has 100+200 MB. But the problem is that the 200MB harddisk isn't supported in the bios. Alas there's no user type 47 in the setup. At the moment we use it as a 193MB type but there are getting bad blocks on the harddisk :-<. Question: who knows a solution to this? I've seen a small program for this once in the BYTE, but I haven't been able to find this. Would speedstor or diskmanager work for this, I used these programs quite a lot in the XT-days, but I don't have these anymore, Seagate used to ship diskmanager with each drive they sold. Help will be greatly appreciated. Ronald Schalk r.schalk@uci.kun.nl
3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Re: Fat Boy versus ZX-11 (new math) In article <1pimfd$cre@agate.berkeley.edu> robinson@cogsci.Berkeley.EDU (Michael Robinson) writes: >In article <C4v3s7.MCz@ccu.umanitoba.ca> klinger@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Jorg Klinger) writes: >>In <1993Apr1.130432.11009@bnr.ca> npet@bnr.ca (Nick Pettefar) writes: >>>Manual Velcro, on the 31 Mar 93 09:19:29 +0200 wibbled: >>>: But 14 is greater than 11, or 180 is greater than 120, or ... >>>No! 10 is the best of all. >>No No No! >> It should be obvious that 8 is the best number by far. Last year 10 >>was hot but with the improvements to 8 this year there can be no >>question. > >Hell, my Dad used to have an old 5 that would beat out today's 8 without >breaking a sweat. > >(Well, in the twisties, anyway.) > >This year's 8 is just too cumbersome for practical use in anything other >than repeating decimals. > Remember the good old days, when Hexadecimals, and even Binaries were still legal? Sure, they smoked a little blue stuff out the pipes, but I had a hex 7 that could slaughter any decimal 10 on the road. Sigh, such nostalgia! Regards, Charles DoD0,001 RZ350 -- Within the span of the last few weeks I have heard elements of separate threads which, in that they have been conjoined in time, struck together to form a new chord within my hollow and echoing gourd. --Unknown net.person
8rec.motorcycles
Re: Text Recognition software availability In article <C4IHqM.7v3@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, ab@nova.cc.purdue.edu (Allen B) writes: |> One more time: is there any >free< OCR software out there? |> |> I ask this question periodically and haven't found anything. This is |> the last time. If I don't find anything, I'm going to write some |> myself. |> |> Post here or email me if you have any leads or suggestions, else just |> sit back and wait for me. :) |> |> ab I'm not sure if this is free or shareware, but you can try to look to wsmrsimtel20.army.mil, directory PD1:<MSDOS.DESKPUB> file OCR104.ZIP . From the file SIMIBM.LST : OCR104.ZIP B 93310 910424 Optical character recognition for scanners. Hope this helps. Roman Valo valo@cvt.stuba.cs Slovak Technical University Bratislava Slovakia
1comp.graphics
Re: Manual Shift Bigots I prefer a manual to an automatic as it should be. I believe that automatics should only be manufactured for people with physical disabilities who otherwise would not be able to drive. Automatic transmissions allow drivers to be lazy. More time is available to fiddle with the radio or to look at the scenery instead of concentrating on the road. The manual transmission keeps the drive always doing something, granted it isn't a large movement. Plus, driving should be FUN! Driving a manual is fun, driving an automatic is a chore. In the case of shift speed, automatics can be made to shift far faster that any human could move a stick. If I was racing, I'd want and automatic. For normal driving go with the manual.
7rec.autos
SIMMs prices I'm looking for the best source for SIMMs in the USA. I'm not looking for the lowest prices, but rather for the best quality SIMMs and the one with the lowest rate of defective SIMMs. I know the chip Merchant has good prices but they seems to have a high rate of returned SIMMs. Does anyone know how many SIMMs you have to purchase to obtain quantity discount ?. Thank you. -- Sham(u) ya tha (s)seif(u) lam yaghib(i) | Ibaa Oueichek. oueichek@imag.imag.fr Ya jamal(al) majd(i) fi(l) kutub(i) |Lab de Genie Informatique (LGI). Kablak(i) (t)tareekh(u) fi thulmaten |IMAG, INPG. Baadak(i) staula ala (sh)shuhub(i) |46, Av. Felix Viallet, Grenoble.
4comp.sys.mac.hardware
Re: fibromyalgia In article <93Apr5.133521edt.1231@smoke.cs.toronto.edu> craig@cs.toronto.edu (Craig MacDonald) writes: >> It may be extremely >>common, something like 5% of the population. It is treatable with >>tricyclic antidepressant-type drugs (Elavil, Pamelor). > >Why is it treated with antidepressants? Is it considered a >psychogenic condition? No. That these drugs happen to be useful as antidepressants is neither here nor there. -- Steve Dyer dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
13sci.med
Re: SE rom In article <wgwC5pDL4.43y@netcom.com>, wgw@netcom.com (William G. Wright) writes: > > Anyway, I was hoping someone knowledgeable > about Mac internals could set me straight: is it simply > impossible for a mac SE to print grayscale, or could > someone armed with enough info and a little pro- > gramming experience cook something up that would > supplement the ROM's capabilities? > Also, how does one know if one's mac can > support the grayscale and photograde that the Select 300 > is supposedly capable of? ( Short of buying the printer > and trying it out like I did) > Thanks for your help. > > Bill Wright > wgw@netcom.com > To use the grayscale features, I believe you need a Mac equipped with colour quickdraw. I was told this somewhere or other, but it's not mentioned in "Apple Facts" (guide for apple sellers), in the press release or in the technical specs. Sean
4comp.sys.mac.hardware
Re: Tieing Abortion to Health Reform -- Is Clinton Nuts? taite@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu () writes: >In article <C5KI6y.C9E@news.cso.uiuc.edu> parker@ehsn17.cen.uiuc.edu (Robert S. Parker) writes: >>[mucho delete-o concerning abortion not being a choice if lower class women >>can't afford it] > If all choices should have federal funding so poor people can afford them, >then shouldn't firearms be federally subsidized? After all, it is the people >in the ghettoes who are most affected by the proliferation of weapons among >criminals. Shouldn't they have federal funding so they can protect themselves >and their families from inner city criminals? Hmmm, give everyone a gun, free. What a thought. Let's see where it would lead... I have a gun, I don't like your attitude, I shoot you. Your friends have guns, they don't like me shooting your, they shoot me. My friends have guns, they don't like your friends shooting me, they shoot them. . . . Does this sound like a good thing? Sounds like it would set society back over a hundred years. >>-Rob > C'mon, Rob. If there is one argument that is ridiculous concerning >abortion it is that pro-choice should imply federal funding for abortion. >It's very dishonest. Funding abortion for those women who can't afford it would save the government money, not cost it. The cost of delivery is much higher, and those women can't afford that either. Funding guns, as you suggest as an "analogy" would *cost* the government money and would lead to effective anarchy. See the difference? Somehow I doubt you can. > Ralph D. Taite -Rob
19talk.religion.misc
Will somebody create a Messie DOS 6.0 FAQ, please? (Was: Dos 6.0 question) Hi there, I think it is time to create a MS DOS 6.0 FAQ since lots of questions about it are actually flooding the net. I won't be able to write it my self because of the lack of time/knowledge/experience. Perry Egelmeers
3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
HELP: FDHD failure in IIcx REPOST - DUE TO NET PROBLEMS Hi, I have problems with the FDHD on a IICX that EKG reports is ROM revision 376. I had reports that this Mac was having trouble formatting disks and by the time I got to it, the FDHD just would not respond although all other functions were fine. I checked the voltages on the DB19 external drive connector and pin 6 showed no volts with 7 and 8 giving 25volts unloaded. The power supply is an Astec and I sent it away for repair. With the power supply reinstalled, I now get the following error: With the internal FDHD connected, the Mac boots fine but on completion of boot cycle an alert displays "The disk is unreadable - do you want to eject it?". For every combination of response, the alert reappears within approx 2 seconds and this error is continuous. The FDHD does spin but there is no head seeking and the FDHD is incapable of ejecting the disk. This error sequence occurs regardless of whether there is a floppy in the drive or not. Pin 6 on the DB19 external connector shows 1.2V, pins 7 and 8 show 10.75V. With the internal FDHD disconnected, the Mac boots fine and works great (MacEKG reports no errors). The DB19 external connector now shows no voltage on pin 6 but pins 7 and 8 show 10.75V. Now, the internal FDHD may be fubar, but I have an apple 800K external drive that gives exactly the same symptoms as the internal drive when connected to either the external DB19 or the internal connector at J16 (after suitable surgery to the external drive). The voltages at J16 (with the internal FDHD disconnected) are as follows: PIN Volts PIN Volts 1 - 2 5 3 - 4 5 5 - 6 5 7 - 8 - 9 - 10 5 11 - 12 - 13 10.75 14 5 15 10.75 16 5 17 10.75 18 - 19 10.75 20 5 This machine has a SWIM which I don't think EKG tests. I have tested all diodes and pica fuses and can find no problems. Does anybody have any ideas ? Best wishes, Woody. Paul Woodman Praxis plc, \ / | the software engineering company of Touche Ross, \ / ___ ___ _| 20 Manvers Street, Bath, BA1 1PX, UK. \ /\ / / / / / / | \ / Tel +44 225 444700 xt228 \/ \/ /__/ /__/ /__| \/ Fax +44 225 465205. _________________________/ woody@praxis.co.uk
4comp.sys.mac.hardware
EXPERTS ON EDWARD JENNER...LOOK!!! I am a student from San Leandro High school. I am doing a research project for physics and I would like information on Edward Jenner and the vaccination for small pox. Any information at all would be greatly apprectiated. Thank you.
13sci.med
Re: Ed must be a Daemon Child!! In article <1993Apr14.133413.1499@research.nj.nec.com> behanna@syl.syl.nj.nec.com (Chris BeHanna) writes: >In article <bethdC5G0H6.I48@netcom.com> bethd@netcom.com (Beth Dixon) writes: >>Bzzzzt. It was me. Until I discovered my SR250 Touring Bike has a >>nifty little cache on it for things like coins or lipstick. The >>new Duc 750SS doesn't, so I'll have to go back to carrying my lipstick >>in my jacket pocket. Life is _so_ hard. :-) > > Am I the only denizen who thinks that the Natural Look is the best >look? The thought of kissing that waxy shit smeared all over a woman's lips >is a definite turn-off... So does clear lipstick/chapstick/etc. fit under the "natural look" or the "waxy shit" category? I wear something on my lips to keep them from drying out. Kissing dry, cracked, parched lips isn't too fun either. > Not that I'll ever be kissing Beth or Noemi... ;-) Not if Tom has anything to say about it you won't! Noemi speaks for herself. Beth ================================================================= Beth [The One True Beth] Dixon bethd@netcom.com 1981 Yamaha SR250 "Excitable Girl" DoD #0384 1979 Yamaha SR500 "Spike the Garage Rat" FSSNOC #1843 1992 Ducati 750SS AMA #631903 1963 Ducati 250 Monza -- restoration project 1KQSPT = 1.8 "I can keep a handle on anything just this side of deranged." -- ZZ Top =================================================================
8rec.motorcycles
Re: Clinton wants National ID card, aka USSR-style "Internal Passport" johnston@cyberia.win.net (Robert Johnston) writes: >> >>How 'bout we embed the `card` in the forhead of everyones skull ? >>Can't lose it without being already dead (ergo, no need for treatment). >> >Close, at birth we implant a smart chip just behind the ear under the skin but >above the skull. We incase it in a hypo-allergenic high carbon content >glass. This chip would be reprogrammed as we age with the pertinent >medical, correctional, taxational data. Behave yourself or we'll >input it into your permenant record. You forgot the part about encasing it in a small shaped charge so that if anyone tries to tamper with it, it explodes and kills you. Oh, and the shaped charge can be set off by remote control...but only if you get out of line. Properly patriotic citizens have nothing to fear. =============================================================================== Tom Swiss/tms@cs.umd.edu | "Born to die" | Keep your laws off my brain! "What's so funny 'bout peace, love and understanding?" - Nick Lowe This .sig contains no animal products and was not tested on animals. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances." -- The Constitution of the United States of America
16talk.politics.guns
Re: Wings will win In article <ragraca.735586800@vela.acs.oakland.edu> ragraca@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Randy A. Graca) writes: > >It's true that Vancouver did not make the playoffs for many a year before >Quinn came, but in those years the Smythe Division was a lot--I mean *a lot*-- >tougher division than the Norris, also known as the "Snorris", division. >Vancouver had to play Edmonton and Calgary, both very legitimate Stanley >Cup contenders, eight times a year, while Detroit got to play such >powerhouses as Toronto and Minnesota. Now, Edmonton is hardly even a force >in the league, and the Smythe even has the mighty San Jose sharks, while Them thar's fighting words...hardly a force...geez...miss the playoffs once in 15 years, and even after making the final four 3 times in the last five years, and everyone thinks its doomsville. >over this same period of time in which Vancouver was improving, so was >everybody in the Norris (except St. Louis). Detroit had to improve just >to keep up with the competition in their division. They had to improve *a >lot* to get better than their competition in the Norris. > >Bryan Murray inherited a team with very little talent. For really good >players, they had Yzerman, Burr, and Probert, and that was about it. (And >no doubt some will dispute whether Burr and Probert were that good). The >rest were either very green rookies or washed up veterans. The only reason >they got as far as they did in the years before Murray came was due to the >coaching of Demers, who, at least at first, got every last ounce of effort >possible out of his team. Then, even his coaching began to degrade. > Fedorov, Primeau, Kozlov, Lidstrom, Sillinger, Konstantinov, Drake, Kennedy, Racine, and Cheveldae were already in the pipeline due to Devellano...Murray inherited these guys...in addition to Yzerman, Probert, Carson, Chiasson, etc. >There are a number of reasons why Detroit wasn't in as bad a shape standings >wise when Murray took over as Vanc. was when Quinn took over, some of which >I outlined above, but Murray did not have any better personnel to work with >at the outset than did Quinn, with the exception of Yzerman. And one player >cannot alone make a team into a Stanley Cup contender, as I'm sure everyone >reading this will agree. > No...Quinn had far less...Murray took over Detroit at a time to take advantage of all of Devellano's good drafting...if Devellano had not given in to Demers request to make the Oates trade, he might still be GM. Gerald
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Re: SIMM vs DRAM Arthur.Greene@p6.f204.n2603.z1.fidonet.org (Arthur Greene) writes: >Can anyone tell me what the difference is between a 256K DRAM chip and a >256K SIMM? I need the former (I think) to add memory to my Laserwriter >LS. Someone is offering to sell me 256K SIMMS he removed from an SE, but >I have a feeling this may not be the correct form of memory. The sockets >in the Laserwriter look like they want the spidery-shaped chips (there >are 4 sockets, each with, as I recall, 20 pins, arranged in two rows of 10). >Believe it or not, I've never actually seen a SIMM. Help appreciated. A SIMM is a small PCB with DRAM chips soldered on. --maarten -- In real life: Maarten Carels Computer Science Department University of Amsterdam email: maarten@fwi.uva.nl
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Jewish Broadcasters (was Jewish Baseball Players?) For that matter, how many Gentleman of The Press Box have been Jewish? The only Jewish sportscaster that comes to mind is Steve Williams (?), who had a Phillies show on KYW in Philadelphia in the 80s. -- Mark Bernstein Eastgate Systems, Inc. 134 Main Street Watertown MA 02172 USA voice: (800) 562-1638 in USA +1(617) 924-9044 Eastgate@world.std.com Compuserve: 76146,262 AppleLink:Eastgate
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Borland Software for sale - CHEAP! For Sale: Turbo Pascal 5.5 - all original manuals and disks: $30 obo + shipping Borland Paradox 3.5 with tall boxed manual set & Kallista desktop - all original disks. $50 obo + shipping Borland Paradox 4.0 - opened but never used. All manuals & disks. $125 obo + shipping Borland Quattro Pro 4.0 (DOS) all manuals & disks. $40 obo + shipping E-mail or phone if interested. John Hansen (513) 257-6084 -- John C. Hansen hansen@logdis1.hq.aflc.af.mil "... I am working on cse0080@wsu.bitnet a suitable quote..." cse0080@desire.wright.edu - John Hansen
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Re: "Winning" Tax Case! > Do you have a strange definition of "winning" that you titled this thread > "Winning Tax Case!"? Sloan *lost*. By a unanimous 3-0 decision that tore > his arguments to pieces. He went to prison using these arguments. See > United States v Sloan, 939 F2d 499 (7th Cir 1990), aff'g 704 F Supp 880. The tax protesters are legally correct, but they are put in jail anyway. The weakness of the governments legal position is shown by the fact that when someone protesting tax or gun laws on legal grounds gets a federal jury trial (very rare) the feds blatantly stack the jury, with the same old faces turning up time after time. However Teel should have mentioned that though his advice is legally sound, if you follow it you will probably wind up in jail. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- | James A. Donald | Joseph Stalin said: "Ideas are more powerful | than guns. We would not let our enemies have jamesdon@infoserv.com | guns, why should we let them have ideas."
18talk.politics.misc
HELP! Need JPEG / MPEG encod-decode I am involve in a Distant Learning project and am in need of Jpeg and Mpeg encode/decode source and object code. This is a NOT-FOR PROFIT project that once completed I hope to release to other educational and institutional learning centers. This project requires that TRUE photographic images be sent over plain telephone lines. In addition if there is a REAL Good GUI lib with 3D objects and all types of menu classes that can be use at both end of the transaction (Server and Terminal End) I would like to hear about it. We recently posted an RFD announcing the OTG (Open Telematic Group) that will concern itself with the developement of such application and that it would incorporate NAPLPS, JPEG, MPEG, Voice, IVR, FAX Sprites, Animation(fli, flc, etc...). At present only DOS and UNIX environment is being worked on and it our hope that we can generate enough interest where all the major platform can be accomodated via a plaform independent API/TOOLKIT/SDK We are of the mind that it is about time that such project and group be form to deal with these issues. We want to setup a repository where these files may be access such as Simte20 and start putting together a OTG FAQ. If you have some or any information that in your opinion would be of interest to the OTG community and you like to see included in our first FAQ please send it email to the address below. Thanks in Advance Ed P.O. box 95901 Atlanta Ga. 30347-0901 (404)985-1198 zyxel 14.4 epimntl@world.std.com ed.pimentel@gisatl.fidonet.org -- edimg@willard.atl.ga.us (Ed pimentel) gatech!kd4nc!vdbsan!willard!edimg emory!uumind!willard!edimg Willard's House BBS, Atlanta, GA -- +1 (404) 664 8814
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Re: Warped brake discs on '91 Taurus L From: bsw@utrc.utc.com (Bruce S. Winters) Subject: Re: Warped brake discs on '91 Taurus L >In the past few years I have owned 3 Mustang GTs and now own a 91 T-Bird >SC. They all have had this problem. There was a recall on the T-bird for >the brake problem. The Ford dealer replaced the rotors and pads but the >rotors warp after about 10K miles. Between this problem and the fit and >finish problems on the T-Bird I'll never buy a Ford again. I just had my rotors on my '92 Taurus GL changed less than 500 miles ago and...you guessed it, I'm noticing slight warpage in the left rotor. :-( I had a mechanic friend of mine look at it and he said that there is a high spot on the rotor that is causing the problem. This is a brand new rotor bought from a Ford Dealership. Can't they even produce a brand new rotor that is not warped? I'm currently negotiating with them to swap it out for a new rotor. This is my first American build car and I'm not overly impressed. Tony -- +--------------------------------------------------+ | Name: Antonio L. Balsamo /_/\/\ | |Company: Digital Equipment Corp. \_\ / | | Shrewsbury, Mass. /_/ \ | | Work #: (508) 841-2039 \_\/\ \ | | E-mail: balsamo@stargl.enet.dec.com \_\/ | +--------------------------------------------------+
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Re: Where did the hacker ethic go? Perhaphs what Bill Gates and Steve Jobs are now is the result of the natural evolution of a "successful" hacker. Either you make money, go to jail (Lee Feldenstein [sp?]), or just fade away as "Oh, that's uncle so-and-so who *really* likes computers...". What a "computer hacker" is and does will change as long as the definition of the word "computer" continues to change. -- James D. Murray add@sciences.sdsu.edu
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Drug Use and Policy in Japan Is anyone out there knowledgeable on drug issues in Japan? I'm interested in knowing if Japan has or has ever had a problem with drugs, and how they dealt with it. I've heard, undocumented, that Japan years ago used heavy legal penalties to end a serious heroin problem. I'd like to know both sides of the story. Does anyone recall such a problem? What were laws at the time relating to drug use, drug dealing, and drug trafficking? What are the laws now? What other anti-drug measures, like education and treatment has Japan used? How are drugs regarded by the Japanese people? How effective have anti-drug measures been in Japan? Thanks for your help. - David Borden borden@m5.harvard.edu
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Re: U.S. Government and Science and Technolgy Investment brian@quake.sylmar.ca.us writes: >But as to the question of what philosopher will be most highly regarded in >500 years, it may very well be Ayn Rand (who in every important respect >was "American", but was born in Russia). But I guess that remains to be seen. 1. Please take this out of sci.space. 2. Ayn Rand was not only born in Russia, but educated there. A lot of her philosophy reflects not only a European education but a reaction against certian events in Russia while she lived there. I've heard that to the extent there is a division of modern philosophy between the "Continental" and British/American schools, Rand belongs in the former in terms of methodology et al, even though she was trying to say things that would belong in the latter school. I.e. she was trapped in the language of Kant and Hegel, even though she was trying to say (at times) much different things. -- Phil Fraering |"Number one good faith! You convert, pgf@srl02.cacs.usl.edu|you not tortured by demons!" - anon. Mahen missionary
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New England Ham - Electronic Fleamarket Dates ** 1 April update ** New England Area Major Flea Market *** DATES *** 1993 P 1 of 2 All events are Ham Radio/ Electronic related except ~_____~ ******************************************************************************* 1993 Contact Source ******************************************************************************* 3 April Upper Saddle River NJ CRRC 9-3 sell @8 Jack W2EHD 201 768 8360 D 4 April Southington CT SARA @HS $20@6:3 $10@8:3 $3@9 N1GCV 203 621 6191 F 17 April Nashua NH NE Antique RC $5@8 $1@9 @ Res Ctr Church Ray 508 865 1290 18 April Cambridge MA FLEA at MIT Nick 617 253 3776 F buy $2@9A sellers $10/sp@7A $8in adv $35 for season pass 3rd Sunday Each Month April thru October 18 April Webster MA ECARA @ Pt Breeze Rest $3 tables $10 Gary 203 974 2564 F 18 April Agawam MA HCRA @ Southwick Rec Ctr $3@9A Bob W1ZGP 203 653 0715 F 23,24,25 April Dayton OH adm $11 sell $30/50++ evenings 513 767 1107 F 2 May Yonkers NY @Lincoln HS Otto WB2SLQ 914 969 1053 A 7-8 May Rochester NH Hoss Traders @FG ex13 off rt 16 $5 noon fri WA1IVB sase 15 May N Smithfield RI RIFMRS @VFW Main St 8A Rick K1KYI 401 725 7507 16 May Cambridge MA FLEA at MIT Nick 617 253 3776 F 16 May Pittsfield MA @Taconic HS Sell $5@7 Buy $2@8 Cliff W1SJV 413 743 3334 21-22-23 May Rochester NY ARRL-NY Conv @ Monroe FG Harold K2HC 800 724 8515 F 5 June S Burlington VT Mitch WB2JSJ 802 879 6589 6 June Newington CT @HS Flea Les KA1KRP 203 523 0453 12 June Bangor ME Pine St ARC @Hermon ES 146.34/94 8AM-$2 Roger 207 848 3846 20 June Cambridge MA FLEA at MIT Nick 617 253 3776 F 17 July Nashua NH NE Antique RC $5@8 $1@9 @ Res Ctr Church Ray 508 865 1290 17 July Union ME @ Fairground $3@7AM State Conv Skeet KA1LPW 207 622 2915 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ LAST UPDATE 3-29-93 de W1GSL P 1 of 2 ******************************************************************************* Additions/ Corrections via Internet w1gsl@athena.mit.edu US Mail W1GSL POB 82 MIT Br Cambridge MA 02139 SASE for updated copy as issued. 1993 Contact Source ******************************************************************************* 18 July Cambridge MA FLEA at MIT Nick 617 253 3776 F 3rd Sunday Each Month April thru October 24 July Manchester NH NHARA @HI 8A$4 NE DC 300Ts (no TG) WB1HBB 603 432 6011 F 8 Aug White Planes NY WECAfest Sarah N2EYX 914 962 9666 D 8 Aug Wellseley MA WARS+BARS @Babson College Barry WN1N 508 877 4947 T 14 Aug St Albans ME @ Snow Mobile Club Hitch K1HHC 207 796 2282 15 Aug Cambridge MA FLEA at MIT Nick 617 253 3776 F 29 Aug Fall River MA BCRA Tom WA1LBK 508 674 4163 T+ 11 Sept Windsor ME @ Fairground $3@7AM Skeet KA1LPW 207 622 2915 12 Sept Gaithersburg MD FAR @Mg Cty FG $5@6A- $7TG Nancy Drahim 703 691 0078 J 12 Sept S Dartmouth MA SE Mass ARA 8A- Dan N1HCV 508 933 0678 + 19 Sept Cambridge MA FLEA at MIT Nick 617 253 3776 F 19 Sept Sandy Hook CT Candlewood ARA Harold KB1US A 25 Sept Greenbush ME WCSN/BARC @WCSN xmtr Ed Cockburn 207 732 4366 26 Sept Framingham MA @ HS $12@8 $5@9 $2@10 Barry WN1N 508 877 4947 F 26 Sept Yonkers NY Metro 70 ARC Otto WB2SLQ 914 969 1053 A 15,16 Oct Rochester NH Hoss Traders @FG ex13 off rt 16 $5 noon fri K1RQG 17 Oct Cambridge MA FLEA at MIT Nick 617 253 3776 F 13 Nov Plymouth MA Mayflower RC @Mem Hall 9-3 sell@8 Jim NM1F 508 747 2224 14 Nov Branford CT SCARA @intrm sch Brad WA1TAS 203 265 9983 T ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ LAST UPDATE 3-29-93 de W1GSL P 2 of 2 Source F= Flyer J= John Roberts list A= ARRL list WR NV 73 CQ QST = Mags T= tentative early info D= W1DL + = new info this month This list has been compiled from many sources. While we believe the info to be accurate the author can not be responsible for changes or errors. Check with the sponsoring organizations for more details. This list will be posted monthly to Usenet if additions have been made. Mailed copies are sent when additions are made. ******************************************************************************* Additions/ Corrections via Internet w1gsl@athena.mit.edu US Mail W1GSL POB 82 MIT Br Cambridge MA 02139 SASE for updated copy as issued.
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Re: Once tapped, your code is no good any more. strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight) writes: >What follows is my opinion. It is not asserted to be "the truth" so no >flames, please. It comes out of a background of 20 years as a senior >corporate staff executive in two Fortune 50 companies. >I'd be happy to use a crypto system supplied by the NSA for business, if >they told me it was more secure than DES, and in particular resistant to >attempts by Japanese, French, and other competitive companies and >governments to break. >I'd be happy to do so even with escrowed keys, provided I was happy about >the bona fides of the escrow agencies (the Federal Reserve would certainly >satisfy me, as would something set up by one of the big 8 accounting firms). >I'd trust the NSA or the President if they stated there were no trap >doors--I'd be even happier if a committee of independent experts examined >the thing under seal of secrecy and reported back that it was secure. >I'd trust something from the NSA long before I'd trust something from some >Swiss or anybody Japanese. A lot of us out here in the hinderland will trust the Japanese before we'll trust the NSA, the President, or those stupid Fortune 50 companies you're so proud of. >This may seem surprising to some here, but I suggest most corporations would >feel the same way. Most/many/some (pick one) corporations have an attitude >that the NSA is part of our government and "we support our government", as >one very famous CEO put it to me one day. >Just some perspective from another point of view. And since the Japanese corps aren't part of our "government/governors" they may be more trusted out htere than you are. People are getting tired of this "be patriotic, do whatever we say without question, and pay more taxes" attitude that comes from America's political party... or should that be caste? >-- >David Sternlight Great care has been taken to ensure the accuracy of > our information, errors and omissions excepted. -- Phil Fraering |"Seems like every day we find out all sorts of stuff. pgf@srl02.cacs.usl.edu|Like how the ancient Mayans had televison." Repo Man
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Re: Tieing Abortion to Health Reform -- Is Clinton Nuts? In article <C4zAv7.6F9@news.cso.uiuc.edu> parker@ehsn21.cen.uiuc.edu (Robert S. Parker) writes: >>>Why do you want a nation of physical and mental cripples, doug? > >>Are you in favor of killing all physical and mental "cripples?" (so un-pc.) >>"Cripples" deserve to live just as much as anyone else. > >He is not talking about killing "cripples" he is talking about *making* >someone (the woman) *become* a "cripple" (emotionally) by not allowing >her to have an abortion. Pay attention. My apologies. Your right. I wasn't following the thread. But I think most women are tougher than that. I am suprised that someone would insinuate that women are in some way so vunerable. Link > >>I don't have any stats. I seriously doubt that most abortions are done >>on physical or mental "cripples" unless you are making the generalization >>based on the race of most babies aborted. (even-more-un-pc. and not >>accuarate either.) > >Again, he was refering to the woman, not the abortees. > >>Link Hudson. > >-Rob
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Re: BATF/FBI Murders Almost Everyone in Waco Today! 4/19 In article <C5toMp.24o@news.udel.edu> roby@chopin.udel.edu (Scott W Roby) writes: > And another survivor claims he heard someone shouting "The fire's started!". > Odd terminology. That's what one says when you know a fire is planned, not > when one occurs by accident. > It's also what you say when you're waiting for the end to come in a "fiery apocalypse"...just a thought. Personally, if the fire was set (by either side), I wonder about the timing. If Koresh & Co. set the fires, why wait through six hours of wall-bashing and tear-gassing before starting; was there anything "new" that happened just around that point? Similarly, if the FBI were going to torch the place (and fake it, of course), why wait so long, wouldn't it be more "reasonable" to believe the BD's would set the fire early after the assault began? The most plausible (to me) explaination is that of an accidental starting of the fire by the tanks. Among other things, I say that because I was listening to the radio when the fire started and the reporter (watching from a distance, of course) said that it looked like at least one of the tanks had penetrated farther into the building than previously. Specifically, he said that one tank apparently was halfway (half of the tank's lenght) into the building where it previously had only been penetrating a few feet. reserving judgement, -Aaron
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Re: Eco-Freaks forcing Space Mining. In article <1r6b7v$ec5@access.digex.net>, prb@access.digex.com (Pat) writes: > Besides this was the same line of horse puckey the mining companies claimed > when they were told to pay for restoring land after strip mining. > > they still mine coal in the midwest, but now it doesn't look like > the moon when theyare done. > > pat === I aint talking the large or even the "mining companies" I am talking the small miners, the people who have themselves and a few employees (if at all).The people who go out every year and set up thier sluice box, and such and do mining the semi-old fashion way.. (okay they use modern methods toa point). I am talking the guy who coem to Nome evry year, sets up his tent on the beach (the beach was washed away last year) and sets up his/her sluice box and goes at it "mining". I know the large corps, such as Alaska Gold Company, might complain to.. My opinions are what I learn at the local BS table.. My original thing/idea was that the way to get space mining was to allow the eco-freaks thier way.. As they have done with other mineral development. You can't in many places can't go to the bathroom in the woods without some form of regulation covering it.. == Michael Adams, nsmca@acad3.alaska.edu -- I'm not high, just jacked
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Re: Flames Final: Kings Destroyed vzhivov@superior.carleton.ca (Vladimir Zhivov) writes: >Flames final score: >Calgary 9 - L.A. 4 >Things are back to where they belong. Gretzky didn't play. Kelly >Hrudey is his old self again. Let's hope the Flames put the old-timers >away ASAP. >- Vlad the Impaler Yes, these last couple of months the Kinngs have failed to show up in about one game in five. Presumably last night was that one game in five. Jon
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Re: Deriving Pleasure from Death Peter Garfiel Freeman writes: >>them. (By the way, I do not applaud the killing of _any_ human being, >>including prisoners sentenced to death by our illustrious justice department) >> >>Peace. >>-marc >Boy, you really are a stupid person. Our justice department does >not sentence people to death. That's up to state courts. Again, >get a brain. Peter, I think you are ridiculous here. Stupidity is not a measure of how well someone knows our judicial system. I guess Marc meant that he is against death penalty. But no matter what he meant, your statement not justified. Regards, Dorin
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JOHN M. BELL: Any luck catching him yet? I was one of the unfortunate people to run into this guy. I sent him $30 cash (Stupid, I know) for 4 CDs. That was the last I heard of him. I know there were some other people ripped off by this guy. Has there been any advances in tracking him down? - Tom N.
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Re: Cost/Benefit Analysis (was FBI Director's Statement...) In article <93111.094609MGB@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>, <MGB@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> writes: > Has anyone noticed or commented on the fact that so many of those who > were willing, nay demanding, that we wait forever for Mr Hussein and > Iraq, that we use tremendously costly "sanctions", to avoid a loss > of life, are now at the fore front of those clammoring that we should > have smashed those "religious radicals" and we were wasting money allowing > this stand off to go on ? No. I see many of the same groups protesting both. I also know people who feel exactly the opposite (i.e., treat citizens better than Saddam). > How the worm turns when the sect changes. Hey! Sect changes are still illegal in Texas! -- cdt@rocket.sw.stratus.com --If you believe that I speak for my company, OR cdt@vos.stratus.com write today for my special Investors' Packet...
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Old schematics Wonder if anyone would know where (or if) I could find the schematic for the old Timex-sinclare (sp) computer... Or even a pin out on the expansion bus?? Thanks in advance.. Ian Nelson (inelson@ucf1vm.cc.ucf.edu)
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Re: A KIND and LOVING God!! In article <sandvik-160493205355@sandvik-kent.apple.com>, sandvik@newton.apple.com (Kent Sandvik) writes... >(stephen) wrote: >> sandvik@newton.apple.com (Kent Sandvik) quotes ML... >> >> Remember, these laws were written for a different time and applied >> >> only to God's chosen people. But Jesus has changed all of that. We >> >> are living in the age of grace. Sin is no longer immediately punishable >> >> by death. There is repentance and there is salvation through our >> >> Lord Jesus Christ. And not just for a few chosen people. Salvation >> >> is available to everyone, Jew and Gentile alike. >> > >> >Jews won't agree with you, Malcolm. >> >> Which Jews KS? > >Most religious Jews with the exception of the Messianic ones and >atheists/agnostics, Malcolm. KS, I see you're wanting Malcolm's response. Allow me one last inter- jection then please: Distinguishing among the religious Jews, you've excepted the Messianic for obvious reasons. Specifically, are you saying it's these religious Jews, who trace their lineage back to Abraham by blood and orthodoxy, rather than by faith, who won't agree? Orthodox Jews? As to the a/a (if I understand your direction), the issue remains unproven I suspect, considering how atheists and agnostics so often look to reason. Atheist, it is reasonable to conclude will not agree. For agnostics, a poll seems in order. Who knows? Myself, I'm not so sure the atheists can be counted out. For the orthodox, I wonder how many would follow Moses, or Abraham, or David in accepting God's Word? Is the particular covenant to which one adheres, more important than God promisimg? I reckon for many it depends on the ongoing dialogue. Under these considerations, you might understand why I think it's premature to assert who will and won't agree. | -- J -- | | stephen
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Re: Yet more Rushdie [Re: ISLAMIC LAW] In article <C5qt5p.Mvo@blaze.cs.jhu.edu> arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee) writes: >In article <115694@bu.edu> jaeger@buphy.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger) writes: >>I think many reading this group would also benefit by knowing how >>deviant the view _as I've articulated it above_ (which may not be >>the true view of Khomeini) is from the basic principles of Islam. >From the point ov view of an atheist, I see you claim Khomeini wasn't >practicing true Islam. But I'm sure that he would have said the same about >you. How am I, a member of neither group, supposed to be able to tell which >one of you two is really a true Muslim? This is a very good point. I have already made the clear claim that Khomeini advocates views which are in contradition with the Qur'an and have given my arguments for this. This is something that can be checked by anyone sufficiently interested. Khomeini, being dead, really can't respond, but another poster who supports Khomeini has responded with what is clearly obfuscationist sophistry. This should be quite clear to atheists as they are less susceptible to religionist modes of obfuscationism. So, to answer your question, the only way you can judge is by learning more about Islam, that is by reading the Qur'an and understanding it's basic principles. Once one has done this it is relatively easy to see who is following the principles of Islam and who is acting in a way at odds with Islam. Khomeini by attributing a superhuman status to twelve muslim historical leaders is at variance with one of basic principles of Islam, which is that no human being is metaphysically different than any other human being and in no sense any closer to God in metaphysical nature. Gregg
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