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In article <735259869.13021@minster.york.ac.uk>, cjhs@minster.york.ac.uk writes:
> The application creates window with a button "Quit" and "Press me".
> The button "Press me" pops up a dialog box. The strange feature of
> this program is that it always pops up the dialog box much faster the
> first time. If I try to pop it up a 2nd time (3rd, 4th .... time),
> it is *much* slower.
The shell is waiting for the window-manager to respond to its
positioning request. The window-manager is not responding because
it thinks the window is already in the right place.
Exactly *why* the two components get into this sulk is unclear to
me; all information greatly received.
Bryan.
| 5comp.windows.x |
well, the subject says just about all I intended to ask:
Is there no way to insert a 256 color into WfW 2.0 ?
When I try it, the picture turns into a 16 color pic.
jonni.
| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
jca2@cec1.wustl.edu (Joseph Charles Achkar) writes:
>In article <vzhivov.735454735@cunews> vzhivov@alfred.carleton.ca (Vladimir Zhivov) writes:
>>
>>Joseph, shut-out the Hawks 2-0. The Blues are playing like they did in
>>'86 - clutch 'n grab, shoot the puck out. It's incredibly boring to
>>watch, but if it works...
>>
>road. I agree, it's very boring if you're not a Blues fan, but the Blues
>played two perfect road games.
Not boring is right!!! It is more likely to cause me to have a stroke!!
I had to listen to game two on the Blackhawk station and I don't think I
could take another call of "And JOSEPH makes a SPEcTACular saaaaaave".
Now I'm a Blues fan, but I don't want them to play "like" they played
in game two. Sure the result was fine, but the Blues match up very well
with the Hawks so they really don't need to treat them like the 86 Flames.
We don't need a "Monday Night Miracle" to have a chance to beat Chicago.
The Blues can do it on talent. At least over the hawks.
Rich h.--- Go BLUES!!
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> * \ _______/ Joe Ashkar %
> % \ \ Contact for the Blues *
> * \ \ SAINT LOUIS jca2@cec1.wustl.edu %
> % (___) BLUES *
> *%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
In article <C5uHHI.2HDG@austin.ibm.com>, kelleyb@austin.ibm.com (Kelley
Boylan) wrote:
>
>
> > Yes, I know computers and harddisk drives should be ALWAYS on. But what about
> > monitors? They generate a lots of heat. Should I or shouldn't I keep them on
> > 24 hours a day? Any advice? Thanks. Take care...Paul
>
> There has been no empirical evidence to support the first statement. True,
> there is a power surge at startup that has the potential to do damage, but
> the internal power supply is well-protected. (I've turned my Mac on and off
> six or seven times a day for three years without problem). The monitor is
> the same. To leave it on is to waste a lot of electricity -- twice as much
> as a television, possibly more.
>
> Turn it off when you're not using it. It'll save you money and the world
> a few more resources.
The problem with turing your computer on and off constantly is not due to
the power surge at start up. It is due to thermal fatigue. You turn on
your computer, it heats up, and everything expands. You turn it off, it
cools off, and everything contracts. There is a limited number of cycles
of this that any component can take before it fails. Modern electronics
are much more robust in this respect than their predeccesors. In fact
portable computers are designed with this in mind since the sleep function
that extends battery life also greatly increaces the number of thermal
cycles that occur. As a rule of thumb, if I am not going to use my
computer (and this includes the monitor) in the next 4-6 hours, I turn it
off (I always dim the monitor when not in use to prolong the life of the
phosphor). I tend to think that with the pace of technical innovation in
the computer industry you should be much less concerned with the fatigue
life of your equipment and more concerned with how long your particular
architecture will be supported by hardware and software vendors. :")
Charles Kuehmann
Northwestern University
Steel Research Group
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
In article <Apr.9.01.11.16.1993.16937@athos.rutgers.edu>, emery@tc.fluke.COM (John Emery) writes:
> The one single historic event that has had the biggest impact on the
> world over the centuries is the resurrection of Jesus. At the same
> time, it is one of the most hotly contested topics....
>
> Did Jesus Christ really rise from the dead? Since the eyewitnesses
> are no longer living, we have only their written accounts. ...
> ... Because of the magnitude of significance
> involved here, either the resurrection is the greatest event in the
> history of man or the greatest deception played on man.
> [massive amounts of data deleted]
John,
While I will not take the time to rebut you point by point, I will suggest
three current works which I think will be helpful in your quest to answer
this question. John Dominic Crossan (Professor of Religion at De Paul Univ)-
_The Cross That Spoke_ Harper and Row Pub. 1988, Also his latest work
_The Historical Jesus - The Life of A Mediterranean Jewish Peasant_ Harper
and Row Pub. 1991, Also two works of Burton Mack (Professor of New Testament
at the Claremont Graduate School) _A Myth of Innocence_ Fortress Press 1988,
And his latest book _The Lost Gospel: The Book of Q and Christian Origins_
Harper and Row, 1992. You might start with Mack's book on Q and then
examine the others afterward. However I think that once you do that you will
see that your "evidence" is not as sturdy as you'd like. Most of the tired
arguements you stated, assume eyewitness accounts, such is not the case. But
Anyway look at Mack and Crossan and then get back to us.
randy
| 15soc.religion.christian |
In article <1993May11.152807.21386@xact.demon.co.uk> ptm@xact.demon.co.uk (Paul Thomas Mahoney) writes:
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I am looking of information regarding UIMX. I believe this is an application
front end generator tool for Motif (among others). Whould someone given me a
contact? I need to get hold of the programmers' guide, or something like it.
--
Paul Mahoney, X-Act Solutions Limited
smail: 20 Shipley Lane, Cooden, Bexhill-on-Sea, East Sussex, TN39 3SR
email: ptm@xact.demon.co.uk ... pmahoney@cix.compulink.co.uk
phone: +44 424 846368
I went to the XWorld convention in NY and talked to the people
from Bluestone who make UIMX. They sent me a HUGE 3 ring binder
of info and a demo tape. Let me know what you need.
Steve Chase
schase@xodus.mitre.org
| 5comp.windows.x |
BR> From: wpr@atlanta.dg.com (Bill Rawlins)
BR> Newsgroups: alt.atheism
BR> Organization: DGSID, Atlanta, GA
BR> Since you have referred to the Messiah, I assume you
BR> are referring to the New Testament. Please detail
BR> your complaints or e-mail if you don't want to post.
BR> First-century Greek is well-known and
BR> well-understood. Have you considered Josephus, the Jewish
BR> Historian, who also wrote of Jesus? In addition,
BR> the four gospel accounts are very much in harmony.
It is also well known that the comments in Josephus relating to Jesus were
inserted (badly) by later editors. As for the four gospels being in harmony
on the issue of Jesus... You know not of what you speak. Here are a few
contradictions starting with the trial and continuing through the assension.
>The death of Judas after the betrayal of Jesus
Acts 1:18: "Now this man (Judas) purchased a field with the reward of
iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his
bowels gushed out."
Matt. 27:5-7: "And he (Judas) cast down the pieces of silver in the temple,
and departed, and went and hanged himself. And the chief priests...bought
with them the potter's field."
>What was Jesus' prediction regarding Peter's denial?
Before the cock crow - Matthew 26:34
Before the cock crow twice - Mark 14:30
>How many times did the cock crow?
MAR 14:72 And the second time the cock crew. And Peter called to mind the
word that Jesus said unto him, Before the cock crow twice, thou shalt deny
me thrice. And when he thought thereon, he wept.
MAT 26:74 Then began he to curse and to swear, saying, I know not the man.
And immediately the cock crew.
MAT 26:75 And Peter remembered the word of Jesus, which said unto him,
Before the cock crow, thou shalt deny me thrice. And he went out, and wept
bitterly.
LUK 22:60 And Peter said, Man, I know not what thou sayest. And immediately,
while he yet spake, the cock crew.
LUK 22:61 And the Lord turned, and looked upon Peter. And Peter remembered
the word of the Lord, how he had said unto him, Before the cock crow, thou
shalt deny me thrice.
JOH 13:38 Jesus answered him, Wilt thou lay down thy life for my sake?
Verily,
verily, I say unto thee, The cock shall not crow, still thou hast denied me
thrice.
JOH 18:27 Peter then denied again: and immediately the cock crew.
>destruction of cities (what said was jeremiah was zechariah)
(This is interesting because Matthew quotes a prophesy that was never made!
Not the only time he does this either...)
MAT 27:9 Then was fulfilled that which was spoken by Jeremy the prophet,
saying, And they took the thirty pieces of silver, the price of him that was
valued, whom they of the children of Israel did value;
zechariah 11:11-13
(nothing in Jeremiah remotely like)
What was the color of the robe placed on Jesus during his trial?
scarlet - Matthew 27:28
purple John 19:2
>The time of the Crucifiction
Mark says the third hour, or 9 a.m., but John says the sixth hour (noon) was
when the sentence was passed.
>Inscription on the Cross
Matthew -- This is Jesus the king of the Jews
Mark -- The King of the Jews
Luke -- This is the king of the Jews
John -- Jesus of Nazareth the king of the Jews
>What did they give him to drink?
vinegar - Matthew 27:34
wine with myrrh - Mark 15:23
>Women at the Cross
Matthew said many stood far off, including Mary Magdaline, Mary the mother of
James, and the mother of Zebedee's children. Mark and Luke speak of many far
off, and Mark includes Mary Magdeline and Mary the mother of James the less.
John says that Jesus's mother stood at the cross, along with her sister and
Mary Magdalene.
>Jesus' last words
Matt.27:46,50: "And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice,
saying, "Eli, eli, lama sabachthani?" that is to say, "My God, my God, why
hast thou forsaken me?" ...Jesus, when he cried again with a loud voice,
yielded u the ghost."
Luke23:46: "And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, "Father, unto
thy hands I commend my spirit:" and having said thus, he gave up the ghost."
John19:30: "When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, "It is
finished:" and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost."
>Events of the crucifiction
Matthew says that the veil of the temple was rent, that there was an
earthquake, and that it was dark from the sixth to the ninth hour, that graves
opened and bodies of the saints arose and went into Jeruselem, appearing to
many (beating Jesus to the resurection). Mark and Luke speak of darkness and
the veil of the temple being rent but mention no earthquake or risen saints.
John is the only one who mentions Jesus's side being peirced.
>Burial of Jesus
Matthew says the Jews asked Pilate for a guard to prevent the body from being
stolen by the disciples, and for the tomb to be sealed. All of this was
supposedly done, but the other gospels do not mention these precautions.
>How long was Jesus in the tomb?
Depends where you look; Matthew 12:40 gives Jesus prophesying that he will
spend "three days and three nights in the heart of the earth", and Mark 10:34
has "after three days (meta treis emeras) he will rise again". As far as I can
see from a quick look, the prophecies have "after three days", but the
post-resurrection narratives have "on the third day".
>Time of the Resurection
Matthew says Sunday at dawn, Mark says the sun was rising, and John says it
was dark.
> Who was at the Empty Tomb? Is it :
MAT 28:1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first
day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.
MAR 16:1 And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother
of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and
anoint him.
JOH 20:1 The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it
was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the
sepulchre.
>Whom did they see at the tomb?
MAT 28:2 And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the
Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door,
and sat upon it.
MAT 28:3 His countenance was like lightning, and his raiment white as
snow: MAT 28:4 And for fear of him the keepers did shake, and became as
dead men. MAT 28:5 And the angel answered and said unto the women, Fear
not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was crucified.
MAR 16:5 And entering into the sepulchre, they saw a young man sitting on
the right side, clothed in a long white garment; and they were affrighted.
LUK 24:4 And it came to pass, as they were much perplexed thereabout,
behold, two men stood by them in shining garments:
JOH 20:12 And seeth two angels in white sitting, the one at the head, and
the other at the feet, where the body of Jesus had lain.
>Belief that the disciples stole Jesus's body
Matthew says the guard was paid to tell this story, but no other gospel makes
this claim.
>Appearences of the risen Jesus
Matthew says an angel at the tomb told the two Marys and that Jesus also told
them, to tell the disciples to meet him in Galilee. The disciples then went
to a mountain previously agreed opon, and met Jesus there. This was his only
appearance, except to the women at the tomb. Matthew only devotes five verses
to the visit with the disciples.
Mark says that Jesus walked with two of the disciples in the country, and that
they told the rest of the disciples, who refused to believe. Later he
appeared to the 11 disciples at mealtime.
Luke says two followers went, the same day that Jesus rose from the dead, to
Emmaus, a village eight miles from Jeruselem, and there Jesus jioned them but
was unrecognised. While they ate a meal together that evening, they finally
recognised Jesus, whereopon he dissapeared. Returning at once to Jeruselem,
they told the
disciples of their experience, and suddenly Jesus appeared among them,
frightening them, as they thought he was a spirit. Jesus then ate some fish
and honey and then preached to them.
John says Jesus appeared to the disciples the evening of the day he arrose, in
Jeruselem, where they were hiding. He breathed the Holy Ghost opon them, but
Thomas was not present and refused to believe. Eight days later Jesus joined
the disciples again at the same place and this time he convinced Thomas. Once
more Jesus made an
appearance to the disciples at the sea of Tiberias but again was not
recognised.
After telling them to cast their netson the other side of the boat, Jesus
becomes known to them and prepares bread and fish for them. They all eat
together and converse.
The book of acts further adds to the confusion. It says that Jesus showed
himself to the apostles for a period of 40 days after his resurection (thus
contradicting Matthew, Mark, Luke AND John) and spoke to them of things
pertaining to the kingdom of God: "And when he had spoken these things, while
they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud recieved him out of their sight.
And while they looked steadfastly toward heaven as he went up, two men stood
by them in white apparel: Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye
gazing into heaven? This same Jesus, which is taken from you into heaven,
shall so comein like manneras ye have seen him go into heaven" Acts 1:3-11
Paul outdoes every other "authority" by saying that Jesus was seen by 500
persons between the time of the resurection and the
assension, although he does not say where. He also claims that he himself "as
one born out of due time" also saw Jesus. 1 Cor 15:6-8.
>The Ascension
Matthew says nothing about it. Mark casually says that Jesus was recieved into
heaven after he was finished talking with the
disciples in Jeruselem. Luke says Jesus led the desciples to Bethany and that
while he blessed them, he was parted from them and carried up into heaven.
John says nothing about it. Acts
contradicts all of the above. (See previous section)
>When second coming?
MAT 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all
these things be fulfilled.
MAR 13:30 Verily I say unto you, that this generation shall not pass, till
all these things be done.
LUK 21:32 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till
all be fulfilled.
1 thessalonians 4:15-18
>How many apostles were in office between the resurection and ascention
1 Corinthians 15:5 (12)
Matthew 27:3-5 (minus one from 12)
Acts 1:9-26 (Mathias not elected until after resurrection)
MAT 28:16 Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, into a mountain
where Jesus had appointed them.
> ascend to heaven
"And Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven." (2 Kings 2:11)
"No man hath ascended up to heaven but he that came down from heaven, ...
the Son of Man." (John 3:13)
As you can see, there are a number of contradictions in the account of the
trial, crucifiction and resurection of Jesus. If these are good witnesses,
you would think that they could get SOME of these important details right!
(In fact, I cannot find very many points on where they AGREE. You would think
that they could at least agree on some of the points they were supposedly
observing!) Because of the fact that there is so much contradiction and error,
the story of the resurection as presented cannot be taken as literal truth.
(Due to the nature of the story, I doubt if it should be taken as ANY sort of
truth.)
Alan
| 0alt.atheism |
Actually, many of us have noted this. We have noted that the program
started at least 4 years ago, that the contracts with VLSI Technology
and Microtoxin were let at least 14 months ago, that production of the
chips is well underway, and so forth.
Nobody I know has claimed Clinton intitiated the program. But he chose
to go ahead with it.
Perhaps the NSA realised that *no-one* would even contemplate falling for
the dual-escrow bluff while under the Bush administration and *had* to
wait for a Democrat govt to con into promoting this because people *might*
just believe they were honest. (Didn't work, did it? :-) )
G
| 11sci.crypt |
poram@ihlpb.att.com wrote:
: Lets talk about principles. If we accept that God sets the
: standards for what ought to be included in Scripture - then we
: can ask:
: 1. Is it authoritative?
"Authoritative" is not a quality of the writing itself- it is a statement
by the community of faith whether it will accept the writing as normative.
: 2. Is it prophetic?
How is "prophecy" to be defined? If it is "speaking forth" of God's message,
much of the apocrypha must surely qualify.
: 3. Is it authentic?
Again, by what standard? Is "authenticity" a function of the authors? the
historical accuracy?
: 4. Is it dynamic?
What is this supposed to mean? Many of the apocryphal books are highly
"dynamic" -thought provoking, faithful, even exciting.
: 5. Is it received, collected, read and used?
By whom? Of course the apocryphal books were received (by some),
collected (or else we would not have them), read and used (and they still are,
in the Catholic and Orthodox churches).
: On these counts, the apocrapha falls short of the glory of God.
This is demonstrably false.
: To quote Unger's Bible Dictionary on the Apocrapha:
: 1. They abound in historical and geographical inaccuracies and
: anachronisms.
So do other books of the Bible.
: 2. They teach doctrines which are false and foster practices
: which are at variance with sacred Scripture.
"False" by whose interpretation? Those churches that accept them find no
contradiction with the rest of scripture.
: 3. They resort to literary types and display an artificiality of
: subject matter and styling out of keeping with sacred Scripture.
This is a purely subjective evaluation. The apocryphal books demonstrate
the same categories and forms of writing found in the other scriptures.
(In fact, one could argue that the apocryphal "Additions to the Book of
Esther" act rather to bring the "unscripturelike" book of Esther more into
line with other books.)
: 4. They lack the distinctive elements which give genuine
: Scripture their divine character, such as prophetic power and
: poetic and religious feeling.
Have you ever read the Wisdom of Ben Sira or the Wisdom of Solomon? They
exhibit every bit as much "poetic and religious feeling" as Psalms or
Proverbs.
[deletions]
: How do you then view the words: "I warn everyone who hears the
: words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds anything to
: them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book.
: And if anyone takes away from this book the prophecy, God will
: take away from him his share in the tree of life and in the
: holy city" (Rev 22.18-9)
: Surely this sets the standard and not just man-made traditions.
These words clearly were meant to refer to the book of Revelation alone,
not to the whole body of scripture. Revelation itself was accepted very
late into the canon. The church simply did not see it as having a primary
role of any kind in identifying and limiting scripture.
: It is also noteworthy to consider Jesus' attitude. He had no
: argument with the pharisees over any of the OT canon (John
: 10.31-6), and explained to his followers on the road to Emmaus
: that in the law, prophets and psalms which referred to him - the
: OT division of Scripture (Luke 24.44), as well as in Luke 11.51
: taking Genesis to Chronicles (the jewish order - we would say
: Genesis to Malachi) as Scripture.
Jesus does not refer to the canon for the simple reason that in his day,
the canon had not been established as a closed collection. The books
of the apocrypha were part of the Septuagint (which was the Bible of
the early church). The Hebrew canon was not closed until 90 c.e.
The Torah (Pentateuch/ "Law") was established in Jesus' day, as were
the Prophets (with the _exclusion_ of Daniel). The Writings, however,
were still in flux. Jesus does not refer to the Writings, only to the
Psalms, which were part of them. The books of the apocrypha were all
part of the literature that was eventually sifted and separated.
To argue that Jesus is referring to the Jewish canonical order in Luke 11:51
is weak at best; he is not quoting scripture, but telling a chronological
story. And, as mentioned above, the Hebrew canon (especially in the
present order) did not exist as such in Jesus' day.
revdak@netcom.com
| 15soc.religion.christian |
First, I would like to thank all who sent me their opinions on the matter
at hand. All advice was taken to heart, if not directly used. My friend
found out about the matter quite accidently. After reading some of my
mail, I quit from the mail reader & went about my business. I must have
trashed my mail improperly, because he got on the same terminal the next
day & saw my old messages. He thought they were responses to a post he
placed in alt.atheism earlier that week, so he read some of them before
realizing that they were for me. I got a message from him the next day; he
apologized for reading my mail & said that he did not want to appear to be
a snoop. He said that he would be willing to talk to me about his views &
didn't mind doing so, especially with a friend. So we did. I neither
changed his mind nor did he change mine, as that was not the point. Now he
knows where I'm coming from & now I know where he's coming from. And all
that I can do is pray for him, as I've always done.
I believe the reason that he & I "click" instead of "bash" heads is because
I see Christianity as a tool for revolution, & not a tool for maintaining
the status quo. To be quite blunt, I have more of a reason to reject God
than he does just by the fact that I am an African-American female.
Christianity & religion have been used as tools to separate my people from
the true knowledge of our history & the wealth of our contributions to the
world society. The "kitchen of heaven" was all we had to look forward to
during the slave days, & this mentality & second-class status still exists
today. I, too, have rejected
an aspect of Christianity----that of the estabished church. Too much
hypocricy exists behind the walls of "God's house" beginning with the
images of a white Jesus to that of the members: praise God on Sunday &
raise hell beginning Monday. God-willing, I will find a church home where
I can feel comfortable & at-home, but I don't see it happening anytime
soon.
Sherlette
| 15soc.religion.christian |
> I have a (very old) Mac 512k and a Mac Plus, both of which
> have the same problem.
> Their screens blank out, sometimes after a minor physical jolt
> (such as inserting a floppy in the internal drive), sometimes
> all by themselves (computer left to itself just goes blank).
>
> I have replaced the wires connecting the logic boards and the
> video board, because it seemed at first that jiggling the wires
> made the screen come back on. This worked for a while, but the
> blanking out has returned.
>
> Can I do anything? Do I need a new power supply? A new CRT?
> A new computer?
I had the same problem with my 512 a long time ago. Resoldering
the joints on the motherboard (all of them) fixed it. Turns out
that continuous heating and cooling caused annular (ring-shaped)
cracks to develop in the solder, effectively cutting the video
circuitry off. If you're not a solder-jockey you might want to
have someone else do it -- I took mine to an electrical engineer
buddy -- but it was a 20-minute job, tops.
-Kelley-
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I buy and pay for my own opinions
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
On Thu, 22 Apr 93 20:02:00 GMT John Ngai (ngai@nova.bellcore.com) wrote:
| I went out and bought the PAS16 yesterday, and installed it into my Gateway
| DX2-66V. I followed the instructions and set the SB side with DMA 1 and IRQ5
What is PAS16? Any articles (or reviews) describing it?
--
Penio Penev x7423 (212)327-7423 (w) Internet: penev@venezia.rockefeller.edu
Disclaimer: All oppinions are mine.
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
Does anyone out there know of any products using Motorola's Neuron(r) chips MC143150 or MC143120. If so, what are they and are they utilizing Standard Network Variable Types (SNVT)?
_________________________________________________________________________________
Ted Van Den Heuvel heuvel@neptune.iex.com
KX5P
| 12sci.electronics |
Just one little thing. Last year, mid-december, a cop pulled me over. It
was about -10 Centigrade, and it just started snowing (O.K. you are right, I
live in Canada). The cop checked my license, insurance, ownership, looked at
my frozen nose and fingers, told me to watch the speed limit more closely,
and, entering his cruiser, told me, I was doing 68 instead of 50 km/h.
Didn't ticket me, and I REALLY slowed down after that ( I already mentioned
it started to snow. )
Safe riding, Stefan.
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Stefan Ruhl
german exchange student.
... come out on a Honda,
if you can get it running.
| 8rec.motorcycles |
I am looking for a source of American League baseball stats for
individual players in the same format as printed in newspapers, ie. I do
not want to provide a list of players and get back nice printed reports
for $35 a week.
Does anyone know of such statistics availability and an idea of the
cost?
--
Canada Remote Systems - Toronto, Ontario
416-629-7000/629-7044
| 9rec.sport.baseball |
I suspect that the decisive element in the political battle will be the
FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt) factor.
If the people who would be end users of the Cripple Chip hear of the whole
debate only vaguely -- the government says it's solid; other people in the
field say it's Swiss cheese -- the balance of doubt could shift against the
Feds. Any attempt to limit other forms of encryption could then be presented
as the government covering its own butt by protecting its poor product from
superior competition.
Comments?
| 11sci.crypt |
In <1993Apr22.212219.23130@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com> spiegel@sgi501.msd.lmsc.lockheed.com (Mark Spiegel) writes:
*In article <1993Apr21.234022.2880@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> nlu@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu) writes:
*>
*>McGill/Hammond -> Johan Garpenlov. Would you really rather have those two
*>instead of Johan?
*
* By your logic then you enjoy having Falloon and Ozolinsh on
* injured reserve?
*
Falloon was hurt on a clean check. He just fell poorly. Same with Wilson.
I don't know about Ozolinsh. A judo coach would do more for the Sharks
injury situation than Bob Probert.
Actually, a judo/ju-jitsu coach could help add a really interesting
wrinkle to anyone's game....
-- archer
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
Probably the most famous V16 is the one Cadillac made from about 1925
to 1935. They had to scale down then because the Great Depression really put
the crimp on luxury cars. It had 452 cubic inches with over two hundred horse
power. "They don't make them like they used to."
There were others though. Packard had one until about 1930 whe it down
sized to their legendary Twin-Six, their mainstay for the next twenty years.
Lincoln and Pierce Arrow might have also had one but I am not two sure.
Most luxury and semi-luxury cars of this era at least experimented with
V16 if they did not actually produce them. There was actually a "cylinder war"
among the Big Three to see who could produce the biggest engine.
Big M
++++++++++++++++++++
Standard disclaimer applies, because I can't think of anything wittier.
| 7rec.autos |
dchhabra@stpl.ists.ca (Deepak Chhabra) writes:
>Actually this stuff from Mogilny doesn't surprise me all that much. About 4
>or 5 weeks ago I read in the Toronto Sun a quote from Alex; it went something
>like [sarcastically]:
>"Yep, Patty's the man. He's responsible for the team's success...I'm a
>nobody around here."
>I was going to post it at the time...I must have forgot since nobody else
>Gee, kinda like Alex's spot on the team, isn't it?
How can you assume it was a sarcastic remark?
For someone whose first language is not English, I would interpret
that comment to mean that he believes Pat is the MVP on the team and that
he is just one of the other normal players. Quite modest I might say.
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
A co-worker of mine needs to convert a postscript file to a form readable
(ie ascii) in windows or DOS. Does anybody know of a utility that will do
this? I have a vague memory of a shareware utility someone mentioned once...
Thanks for any info,
Barry.
| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
In article <1993Apr20.192105.11751@ulysses.att.com> smb@research.att.com (Steven Bellovin) writes:
:Thousands? Tens of thousands? Do some arithmetic, please... Skipjack
:has 2^80 possible keys.
We don't yet know if all 80 bits count. Anyway, its looking like the
keys and escrow arrangements are smoke and mirrors to cover the way the NSA
can regenerate the key from the transmitted serial number.
G
| 11sci.crypt |
In article <1993Apr20.130933.26571@lut.ac.uk> A.D.Bailey@lut.ac.uk (Adrian D.Bailey) writes:
>In Windows 3.0 there is a built-in called sysedit.exe that is just what you
>need. Windows 3.1 I don't know......
It's there.....
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| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
cuffell@spot.Colorado.EDU (Tim Cuffel) writes:
> There is no guarantee that the deleted space would be overwritten during
> optimization. Likely, but no guarantee. A quicker and more secure method
> would be a batch file that overwrote all of your free space. For example
> fill.bat:
> echo %1 >> out
> fill.bat
> (This is off the top of my head. #include <std_disclaimer.h>)
It is MUCH easier, faster, and probably even more secure to use Norton
Utilties 6.0 (I'm talking IBM PC here) and to tell WipeInfo to (a)
clean the free disk space and (b) clean the slack space at the end of
the files. Use to Government standard option for more careful
overwriting...
Regards,
Vesselin
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Tel.:+49-40-54715-224, Fax: +49-40-54715-226 Fachbereich Informatik - AGN
< PGP 2.2 public key available on request. > Vogt-Koelln-Strasse 30, rm. 107 C
e-mail: bontchev@fbihh.informatik.uni-hamburg.de D-2000 Hamburg 54, Germany
| 11sci.crypt |
mcole@spock (COLE) writes:
>I would like to experiment with the INTEL 8051 family. Does anyone out
>there know of any good FTP sites that might have compiliers, assemblers,
>etc.?
Try lyman.pppl.gov -- /pub/8051
--
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New Technology, Inc. (205) 461-4584
Mission Software Development Division Opinions are my own -
| 12sci.electronics |
I was just reading in PC Magazine that the peripherals in a PC with an
ISA bus can only access 16MB of memory. Also, that some video cards on
the ISA bus look for a memory aperture to map their memory to. So that
if I wanted to put 16MB of memory on my PC, my video card wouldn't have
anywhere to map it's memory to.
Can someone explain this in more detail. Is there a way around this
limit.
If you email me a response, I will summarize.
-Bo begolej@csgrad.cs.vt.edu
--
--James "Bo" Begole begolej@csgrad.cs.vt.edu
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
Also note (from <branstad@tis.com> and <walker@tis.com>):
% whois -h rs.internic.net tis-dom
Trusted Information Systems, Inc. (TIS-DOM)
3060 Washington Road, Route 97
Glenwood, MD 21738
Domain Name: TIS.COM
Administrative Contact:
Walker, Stephen T. (STW3) walker@TIS.COM
(301) 854-6889
Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
Dalva, David I. (DID1) dave@TIS.COM
(301) 854-6889
Record last updated on 02-Jul-92.
Domain servers in listed order:
TIS.COM 192.33.112.100
LA.TIS.COM 192.5.49.8
And "dockmaster" is an infamous address ...
--
Seth Finkelstein sethf@athena.mit.edu
"The road to Hell is paved with good intentions"
| 11sci.crypt |
// Hope I am in the right group! I'm using BC++'s ObjectWindows (version 3.1),
// trying to get some date processed in a window object. However, when invoking
// the window object, the calling program gives up the control to the window
// object, and keeps executing the next statement. The source code may look
// like the following:
class MyWindow : public TWindow
{
...
};
void MyCallingProg(...) // Could the calling program be a C function?
{ ...
MyWindow *MyWinObj;
MyWinObj = new MyWindow(...);
GetApplication()->MakeWindow(MyWinObj);
MyWinObj->Show(SW_SHOWNORMAL);
next statement; // I want the program to wait here until MyWinObj is closed
... // so that I can get some data back from MyWinObj.
... // I specified the window style to be WS_POPUPWINDOW, didn't
... // help. Is there any other way to execute the window object
... // so that the calling program won't give up the control?
} // Any help would be appreciated. Thanks! --jun
To talk to the Lord with PS/2 through MS-Windows
| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
I have to increase the memory in a Plus or SE (I'm not sure which since
I haven't seen it yet). I did this a few years ago but I no longer have the
instructions. I forget which resistor needs to be cut to go from 1 to 4 Mbs.
Can anyone direct me to this information? Is there an ftp'able doc some-
where with diagrams?
Thanks, Dick Grant
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
Robert,
I'm *so* glad that you posted your Biological Alchemy discussion. I've
been compared to the famous Robert McElwaine by some readers of Sci. Med.
I didn't know how to respond since I had not seen one of your posts(just
like I haven't read "The Yeast Connection").
Let me just start by stating that the authors of the "Cold Fusion" papers of
recent years are now in scientific exile(I believe that one has actually
left the country). Scientific fraud is rare. I'm still not sure that if a
review of the research notes of the "cold fusion scientists" actually
proved fraud or just very shoddy experimentation.
Your sources do not seem to be research articles. They are more like lay
texts designed to pique human interest in a subject area(just like the food
combining and life extension texts). Robert, I try to keep an open mind.
But some things I just can't buy(one is taking SOD orally to prevent
oxidative damage in the body).
Your experiment, if conducted by readers of this news group, would prove
that you are right(more ash after seed sprouting than before). Unless you
use a muffle furnance and obtain a very high temperature(above 600 degrees
I believe), you will get organic residue in the ash. Even the residue in
commercial incinerators contains organic residue. I remember doing this
kind of experiment in my organic chemistry couurse in College but I
couldn't find a temperature for mineral ash formation so I'm really
guessing at 600 degrees F, it may actually be much higher. The point is
that no one in their home could ever get a high enough temperature to
produce *only* a mineral ash. They also could not measure the minerals so
they could only weigh the ash and find out that you appear to be correct.
Chemical reactions abound in our body, in our atmosphere, in our water and
in our soil. Are these fusion reactions? Yes many of them do involve
fusing oxygen, nitrogen and sulfur to both organics and inorganics. Do we
really have the transformation of silicone to calcium if carbon is fused with
silicon? Not in my book Robert.
Silicon is the most abundant mineral on our planet. I've seen speculation
that man could have evolved to be a silicon based rather than a carbon
based life-form. I like reading science fiction, as many people do. But I
know enough about biochemistry(and nutrition) to be able(in most cases) to
separate the fiction from the fact.
Silicon may be one of the trace elements that turns out to be essential in
humans. We have several grams of the stuff in our body. What's it doing
there? Only the Lord knows right now. But I will tell you what I do know
about silicon and why, as you state, it helps bone healing(and it is not
because silicon is transformed into calcium).
Almost all of the silicon in the human body is found in the connective
tissue(collagen and elastin). There have been studies published which show
that the very high silicon content in elastin may be an important protective
factor against atherosclerosis(the higher the silicon content in elastin,
the more resistant the elastin is to a an age-related loss of elasticity
which may play a role in the increase in blood pressure that is often seen as
part of the ageing process in humans).
For bone fracture healing, the first step is a collagen matrix into which
calcium and phosphate are pumped by osteoblasts. A high level of silicon
in the diet seems to speed up this matrix formation. This first step in the
bone healing process seems to be the hardest for some people to get going.
Electriacl currents have been used in an attempt to get the matrix forming
cells oriented in the right direction so that the matrix can be formed in
the gap(or gaps) between the ends of the broken bone. A vitamin C deficiency
(by slowing collagen formation as well as causing the prodcution of
defective collagen) does slow down both bone and wound healing. Zinc is also
another big player in bone and wound healing. And so is silicon(in an
undetermined role that most likely involes matrix formation and not
transformation of silicon to calcium). For you to take this bone healing
observation and use it as proof that silicon is transformed into
calcium is an interesting little trick.
But Robert, I have the same problem myself when I read the lay press(and
yes even some scientific papers). Is the explanation reasonable? Without
a very good science knowledge base, you and most readers of this news group
are flying blind(you have to take it on faith because you don't know any
better).
If the explanation seems to make sense to me based on my knowledge base,
I'm inclined to consider it(this usually means trying to find other sources
that come to the same conclusion). If the idea(like a candida bloom) seems
to make sense to me, I tend to pursue it as long as any advice that I'm
going to give isn't going to really mess somebody up. If this makes us
kindred souls Robert, then I guess I'll have to live with that label.
For the physicians who have decided to read my response to Robert's
interesting post, I hope that you saw the segment on the pediatric
neurosurgeon last night on U.S. TV. I can't remember the network or his
name(like many nights, I was on my computer and my wife was watching TV in
our Den where I have my computer setup). This neurosurgeon takes kids with
brain tumors that everyone else has given up on and he uses"unconventional"
treatments(his own words). He says that he has a 70% success rate. The one
case that I heard him discussing would normally use radiation(conventional
treatment). He was going to go in and cut. You guys complain about the
cost of the anti-fungals. What do you think the cost difference between
radiation treatment and surgery is guys?
I'm going to ask you guys one more time, why blast a physician who takes the
chronic sinus sufferer(like Jon) and the chronic GI sufferer(like Elaine)
and tries to help them using unconventional treatments? Treatments which
do not result in death(like those that the neurosurgeon uses?). Is it
because candida blooms are not life-threatening while brain tumors are?
How about quality of life guys? May the candida demon never cross your
sinus cavity or gut(if it does, you may feel differently about the issue).
Marty B.
| 13sci.med |
Poor person's Kirlian Photography (try this at home)
1. Hold your hand up to a cold window.
2. Look closely at the stunning corona effects around
your fingertips.
3. Remove hand (from window) and observe after image.
4. Invent crackpot theory to explain the effect.
| 13sci.med |
Just to follow up on Casper's posting. I have been following this business
since it started 52 days ago. The Branch Davidians have occupied the Mt.
Carmel location for some years, and their neighbors (you know, the people
next door) have said to a man, that the BD folks were quiet and never
bothered anybody.
There were some defector from the BD who alleged child abuse within the
movement, but how does this bring in the Feds? In particular what interest
would ATF have in child abuse. O.K. It was the allegation of possesing
illegal automatic weapons. A search warrant could have been obtained
(properly) only on probable cause. This means that some evidence that an
illegal auto weapon was shipped in, or an illegal kit for converting
semi-auto weapons to full automatic was purchased or shipped.
In either case, how does this require an NO-KNOCK warrent, with a bunch of
macho hot dog assholes busting into the place *without* identifying
themselves. Milleniests tend to be a bit paranoid anyway. It is no
surprise they shot when invaded. Hell I am not a religious extremist and I
might have done the same myself. If the DEA busted into my house by
mistake without identifying themselve and I had a gun in my hand, I would
shoot first and wonder later.
So if it was illegal guns, the ATF should have gotten a normal warrant
(how can you flush a 50 calibre machine gun down the toilet?) and
presented it in a peaceful normal way. David Koresh has had brushes with
the law, even standing trial for attempted murder in which he was
acquitted. In every prior brush with the law, Koresh and his people acted
peacibly. There was no prior action on the part of the BD folks to
indicate that they were any danger to society.
NOTE: The question of whether the BD people were religious extremists or
slight daft is totally irrelevant. It is *not* against the law to be
looney or zany.
Look and learn folks. And be VERY afraid.
Conan the Libertarian
--
"If you can't love the Constitution, then at least hate the Government"
| 19talk.religion.misc |
In article <1993Apr20.164655.11048@head-cfa.harvard.edu>, willner@head-cfa.harvard.edu (Steve Willner) writes:
>
> The NASM photo archives are open to the public. All (or almost all)
> still pictures in the collection are available for viewing, but I
> don't know about films. At least it might be worth a try. I'm not
> sure if appointments are necessary, but I think not.
>
Is posible to make copies of these photographs (or any other aerospace
photographs at NASM) if you pay a copyright fee?
===============================================================================
Andres C. Gaeris || "Living example of the application of Newton's
Junior laser fusioneer || Zeroth Law:
agae@lle.rochester.edu || `Every body in rest wants to remain in bed'"
===============================================================================
| 14sci.space |
Greetings,
Specious reasoning alert! Sorry folks, I don't like gun control
too much, but this is just too crazy.
1) The main gun control law is similar to (or even BASED ON) a
German gun control law.
2) Germany was Controlled With Evil Nazi's at the time.
3) Nazi's are bad.
Therefore gun control is bad! (If this seems reasonable to you,
try reading it as GunControlIsANaziPlot! That's pretty much what it's
saying.)
Look, let's try to beat gun control with reason and sense, not by
trying to appeal to emotions, and threatening conspiracies. Denounce
GCA '68 as wrong because it's WRONG, not because it's based off of a
law from someone else's government.
As for the 'Lots Of Brave Men Died Fighting Nazi's, So Their Laws
Have No Place On Our Books!' Well, lots of brave men died fighting
England. Wanna bet we've got lots of English laws on our books? Oh,
but they're our ALLIES now, so everything's hunky-dory. I'm *VERY*
sure that the GCA is not the only law that we have on the books which
is similar, or even based on, a law on the german books. HOWEVER,
that does not give invalidation in and of itself.
WE, THE PEOPLE, must state that we find the law unappealing and
contrary to our freedom. We must use logic, and reason, and compelling
arguments. To use emotion, and appeal to fear is to lower yourselves
to the level of your enemies.
A side issue... When talking about the Amendments, it bothers
me to see people acting as if they empower them, but require no
responsibility from them. Free speech also assumes restraint, well
armed militia expects well TRAINED militia, the right to vote expects
the citizen to try to become educated enough to make a reasonable
decision. You are not granted these rights without any responsibility
to the society that offers them. You have a responsibility in return,
and it's to do more than bitch.
-- Morgan Schweers
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| 18talk.politics.misc |
In article <116005@bu.edu> rem@buitc.bu.edu (Robert Mee) writes:
:->
:-> I am looking for a WIN31 driver (or set) for my Diamond
:-> Speedstar 1MB video card. Does anybody know of an archive
:-> site that has these? I looked at CICA and it had drivers for
:-> the Stealth card and for Generic ET4000 cards but not one
:-> specifically for the Speedstar. Is there one? Or has Diamond
:-> dropped the Speedstar out of the driver development loop.
:->
I just looked at CICA yesterday and noticed that they didn't have
anything, but I seem to remember seeing something at WUARCHIVE in the
/mirrors/msdos/windows3 directory. I think I got my 3.1 drivers from
America Online though.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
mmeltzer@wam.umd.edu is
Marc Meltzer
President of The Meltz Inc
"Our job is to play games. Our hobby is to consult."
| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
Yes, I know computers and harddisk drives should be ALWAYS on. But what about
monitors? They generate a lots of heat. Should I or shouldn't I keep them on
24 hours a day? Any advice? Thanks. Take care...Paul
Paul Nevai nevai@mps.ohio-state.edu
Dept Math - Ohio State University 1-614-292-3317 (Office)
Columbus, Ohio 43210-1174, U.S.A. 1-614-292-1479 (Math Dept Fax)
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
I've written an application for SparcStation 2 GX+, under OpenWindows 3.0.
The application uses XView stuff to create my window, and the SUN XGL
graphics library for rendering into the Canvas.
The application does real-time 2-D animation, but it does not update the
the display fast enough.
I'm using notify_set_itimer (XView call) to periodically kick off my
update routine, and it's not happening fast enough. I want it to
update 25 times / second. It's only doing about 11. Also, it appears to
be compute bound, because if I run anything else while my appplication is
up, the update rate slows down even more.
Any ideas ?
Thanks.
| 5comp.windows.x |
Richard Wernick (richard@amc.com) wrote:
: You should be ashamed to call yourself an Ulf Samuelson fan. Anybody who plays
: the way he does, does not belong in the NHL. There have been cheap shot artists
: through the history of the game, but a lot of them have been talanted players.
: Bobby Clarke, Kenny Linsemen, Pie McKenzie, Chris Chelios etc.. but nobody has been
: out right as dirty a cheapshot coward as Ulf. Violence in hockey has got to be curbed
: and players like (Should have been a Women) Samuelson don't belong. When players
: like Ulf, who's main purpose is to injure the better players in the league is allowed
: to continue, and the league won't stop it, the players should. A Christian Pro 1000
: aluminum stick directed at his ugly head should do the trick nicely. If the Bruins get
: a chance to meet Pittsburgh in the near future, you can bet Neely will have his day.
: The sight of watching Ulf turtle up like the coward he is, is worth almost as much as a
: Stanely Cup. This wimp of a player almost ruined the career of one the best right wingers
: in the game. If you are to remove Ulf Samuelson from the lineup, the Penguins would not
: even notice he's gone. He's an eyesore on the game of hockey.
: Rich
Thank you for your extremely lucid and well thought out observation.
Now when you get back on your medication, please let us know how you
are feeling.
Thank you,
--
_____________________________________________________________________________
Tom Huot
huot@cray.com
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
>In article <1qcaueINNmt8@axon.cs.unc.edu> Andrew Brandt writes:
>|> I looked into getting a/c installed on my 1987 Honda CRX Si.
>|> The unit is $875 plus shipping, installation is like 5 1/2 hours on
>|> top of that. This is a hunk of change.
>|>
>|> Does anyone know *any* place that does aftermarket a/c installation
>|> (not with a Honda a/c unit, but some third party unit).
>|>
>|> I cannot seem to find anyone who can put a third party a/c unit in a
>|> Honda. I am in No Carolina, so I would prefer some place nearby, but
>|> any references would be handy.
>|>
>|> Thx, Andy (brandt@cs.unc.edu)
>
Les Bartel's comments:
>>>Sorry I can't help you with your question, but I do have a comment to
>make concerning aftermarket A/C units. I have a Frost-King or Frost-Temp
>(forget which) aftermarket unit on my Cavalier, and am quite unhappy with
>it. The fan is noisy, and doesn't put out much air. I will never have
>an aftermarket A/C installed in any of my vehicles again. I just can't
>trust the quality and performance after this experience.
>>
> - les
>
>--
>Les Bartel I'm going to live forever
Let me add my .02 in. I had a A/C installed by the Ford garage and it did not
work as well as the A/C that was installed by the factory in pickups
identical to mine. I have talked to other people that have had the same
result. Don't know if this is just a problem with Ford or what??
Ernie Smith
| 7rec.autos |
kmr4@po.CWRU.edu (Keith M. Ryan) writes:
>In article <healta.171.735538331@saturn.wwc.edu> healta@saturn.wwc.edu (Tammy R Healy) writes:
>>> "FBI officials said cult leader David Koresh may have
>>> forced followers to remain as flames closed in. Koresh's
>>> armed guard may have injected as many as 24 children with
>>> poison to quiet them."
>>>
>>Do the FBI have proof of this yet?!
> Why ask me? I am only quoting the FBI official. Why not ask the FBI?
Myabe they're lying to cover up, or maybe they're telling the truth.
At this early date, who can say? But, in an effort to keep
talk.origins from turning into the utterly pointless shouting match
over this that I see t.r.m has become, I have editted the Followup
line of this post, and would appreciate it if others would check the
Followup field when posting on this thread.
t.o has its *own* things to shout pointlessly about.
--
| Steve Watson a.k.a. watson@sce.carleton.ca === Carleton University, Ontario |
| this->opinion = My.opinion; assert (this->opinion != CarletonU.opinion); |
"Somebody touched me / Making everything new / Burned through my life / Like a
bolt from the blue / Somebody touched me / I know it was you" - Bruce Cockburn
| 19talk.religion.misc |
You can add Steve Rosenberg, one-time White Sox reliever now in the Mets
system, to the list.
Greg
| 9rec.sport.baseball |
Hi. According to my always questionable newspaper, there's a silver
dollar being minted in Canada, the back of which commemorates the
anniversary of the Stanley Cup. Now, I know full well what coins are
used every day in Canada. I can easily fish a few out of my pocket
change right now, in fact. My question is, since the loon is the only
dollar coin that I know is legal tender, is this just a commemorative
coin with no monetary exchange value, or what? Is it the sort of
thing that only hockey buffs and coin collectors might covet, with no
chance of it being circulated? If it is an uncirculated coin, what's
the current cost and what's its potential value? Just curious. If no
one knows, I'll take this to soc.culture.canada and rec.collecting (or
whatever it is). Thanks again
--
Valerie Hammerl "Some days I have to remind him he's not
hammerl@acsu.buffalo.edu Mario Lemieux." Herb Brooks on Claude
acscvjh@ubms.cc.buffalo.edu Lemieux, top scorer for the Devils, but
v085pwwpz@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu known for taking dumb penalties.
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
Hi folks,
I borrowed a VHS tape from a friend and it has a warning in the begining saying
that attempts to copy the tape will result in destroying the copy and the
original. I found this unbelievable as playing and recording are two different
processes. However, I've never seen this tape being sold anywhere so I don't
want to take the chance even it's small.
Anyone has experience in this kind of self-destructing video tapes?
Thanks in advance.
--
Ka Lun Pang (a.k.a. Andy) - Lost between frequency and time on the unit circle
email: klp@doe.carleton.ca
DoD# 0687
| 12sci.electronics |
In article <1raeir$be1@access.digex.net> steve-b@access.digex.com (Steve Brinich) writes:
> > Well, actually, this one's easy. It's their job. The NSA is
> >supposed to develop cryptosystems. If the government chooses to go
> >ahead and sell those cryptosystems to the masses, so be it.
>
> Ah, but developing cryptosystems which are specificially designed to
>protect the government's domestic spying capabilities takes them beyond
>that mandate, into the forbidden field of domestic wiretapping.
>
Unlike the CIA, the NSA has no prohibition against domestic spying. Read
Bamford's THE PUZZLE PALACE.
Bruce
| 11sci.crypt |
I need to make a power supply that can take input from a
cigarette lighter in a car (12v dc) and drive 7.5 volts
at up to 3.0 amps. I know enough to know that a simple
voltage divider with two resistors won't do it right. Can
such a thing be made from Radio-Shack-able parts without
too much difficulty?
jps
bf
p.s. I've looked for premade things like this at radio shack but
none of it seems to go any higher than about 800mA.
--
Joel Skelton -- North Avenue Trade School, Dept. of Round Things
gt4417a@prism.gatech.edu (ask for Scooter Technologies, and receive)
| 12sci.electronics |
Hi. I've just finished reading S414, and have several questions about
the Brady bills (S414 and HR1025).
1. _Are_ these the current versions of the Brady bill?
What is the status of these bills? I've heard they're "in committee".
How close is that to being made law?
2. S414 and HR1025 seem fairly similar. Are there any important
differences I missed?
3. S414 seems to have some serious loopholes:
A. S414 doesn't specify an "appeals" process to wrongful denial during
the waiting period, other than a civil lawsuit(?) (S414 has an appeals
process once the required instant background check system is established,
but not before).
B. the police are explicitly NOT liable for mistakes in denying/approving
using existing records (so who would I sue in "A" above to have an
inaccurate record corrected?)
C. S414 includes an exception-to-waiting-period clause for if a person
can convince the local Chief Law-Enforcement Officer (CLEO) of an
immediate threat to his or her life, or life of a household member.
But S414 doesn't say exactly what is considered a "threat", nor does
it place a limit on how long the CLEO takes to issue an exception
statement.
True? Have I misunderstood? Any other 'holes?
4. With just S414, what's to stop a person with a "clean" record from
buying guns, grinding off the serial numbers, and selling them to crooks?
At minimum, what additional laws are needed to prevent this?
'Seems at min. a "gun counting" scheme would be needed
(e.g., "John Doe owns N guns"). So, if S414 passes, I wouldn't be surprised
to see legislation for stricter, harder-to-forge I.D.'s plus national gun
registration, justified by a need to make the Brady bill work.
Please comment. I'm mainly interested in specific problems with the current
legislation--I don't mean to start a general discussion of the merits
of any/all waiting-period bills ever proposed.
MarkS || shepard@netcom.com
| 16talk.politics.guns |
Does anyone know of any studies done on the long-term health effects of a
man's vasectomy on his female partner?
I've seen plenty of study results about vasectomy's effects on men's health,
but what about women?
For example, might the wife of a vasectomized man become more at risk for,
say, cervical cancer? Adverse effects from sperm antibodies? Changes in the
vagina's pH? Yeast or bacterial infections?
Outside of study results, how about informed speculation?
Thanks in advance for your help!
--
Eric Skagerberg <eskagerb@nermal.santarosa.edu>
Santa Rosa, California Telephone (707) 573-1460
| 13sci.med |
I have a 486sx25 computer with a 105 Mg Seagate IDE drive and a controler
built into the motherboard. I want to add a SCSI drive (a quantum prodrive
425F 425 MG formatted). I have no documentation at all and I need your
help!
As I understand it, here is the process of adding such a drive. Could you
please tell me if I'm right..
1- Buy a SCSI contoler. Which one? I know Adaptec is good, but they are
kind of expensive. Are there any good boards in the $100 region? I want
it to be compatible with OS2 and Unix if possible. Also, I have seen on
the net that there are SCSI and SCSI2 drives. Is this true? Does the
adapter need to be the same as the drive? What type of drive is the
quantum?
2- connect the drive to the adapter via a SCSI cable and the power cable.
Do i have to worry about the power supply? I think I have 200 watts and
all I'm powering are two floppies and the seagate drive.
3- Setup the BIOS to recognize the drive as the second drive. What type
of drive is this? I don't have the numbers for this drive.
4- Format and create partitions on the drive. Do I use format or fdisk? I
think that IDE drives can't be low-level formatted. Is it the same with
SCSI? How exactly does fdisk work? I have a reduced msdos 5.0 manual
(clone obliges) and there is no mention of fdisk. Ideally, I would want
the drive partitioned in to two partitions D: and E: how do I do this?
Well that seems to be all. Is there anythiing I'm forgetting?
Any help is *really* appreciated, I'm lost...
-Eric
ebosco@us.oracle.com
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
hasan@McRCIM.McGill.EDU writes:
>Ok. I donot know why there are israeli voices against negotiations. However,
>i would guess that is because they refuse giving back a land for those who
>have the right for it.
Sounds like wishful guessing.
>As for the Arabian and Palestinean voices that are against the
>current negotiations and the so-called peace process, they
>are not against peace per se, but rather for their well-founded predictions
>that Israel would NOT give an inch of the West bank (and most probably the same
>for Golan Heights) back to the Arabs. An 18 months of "negotiations" in Madrid,
>and Washington proved these predictions. Now many will jump on me saying why
>are you blaming israelis for no-result negotiations.
>I would say why would the Arabs stall the negotiations, what do they have to
>loose ?
'So-called' ? What do you mean ? How would you see the peace process?
So you say palestineans do not negociate because of 'well-founded' predictions ?
How do you know that they are 'well founded' if you do not test them at the
table ? 18 months did not prove anything, but it's always the other side at
fault, right ?
Why ? I do not know why, but if, let's say, the Palestineans (some of them) want
ALL ISRAEL, and these are known not to be accepted terms by israelis.
Or, maybe they (palestinenans) are not yet ready for statehood ?
Or, maybe there is too much politics within the palestinean leadership, too many
fractions aso ?
I am not saying that one of these reasons is indeed the real one, but any of
these could make arabs stall the negotiations.
>Arabs feel that the current "negotiations" is ONLY for legitimizing the current
>status-quo and for opening the doors of the Arab markets for israeli trade and
>"oranges". That is simply unacceptable and would be revoked.
I like California oranges. And the feelings may get sharper at the table.
Regards,
Dorin
| 17talk.politics.mideast |
Howdy all,
I was wondering if people could e-mail me their opinions on
the various graphics viewers available for MS-Windows 3.x... I'm
working on a project to set up our scanner and write documentation on
how to use it and it would be nice to have a snazzy image viewer
to look at (and maybe even edit?) the image you just scanned.
The file formats I'm looking for:
GIF
JPEG
TIFF
PCX
whatever other 'major' file formats there are.
Thanks a lot for your help
Grant
--
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GTotten@TrentU.CA Phone: (705) 748-1653 FAX: (705) 748-1246
========================================================================
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When Knights were bold,
And women were too cautious;
Oh, those gallant days,
When women were women,
And men were really obnoxious ...
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In article <1993Apr16.104158.27890@reed.edu> mblock@reed.edu (Matt Block) writes:
>(assuming David didn't know that it can be done one-legged,) I too would
In New Orleans, LA, there was a company making motorcycles for WHEELCHAIR
bound people! The rig consists of a flat-bed sidecar rig that the
wheelchair can be clamped to. The car has a set of hand controls mounted on
conventional handlebars! Looks wierd as hell to see this legless guy
driving the rig from the car while his girlfriend sits on the bike as a
passenger!
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In article <1993Apr23.122146.23931@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu> gassan@ouvaxa.cats.ohiou.edu writes:
>After having read this group for some time, I am appalled at its lack of
>scholarship, its fuzzy-thinking, reliance on obsessed and obnoxious posters
Well, these are Armenian and Jewish scholars, not me. Denying the obvious?
Source: Hovannisian, Richard G.: Armenia on the Road to Independence, 1918.
University of California Press (Berkeley and Los Angeles), 1967, p. 13.
"The addition of the Kars and Batum oblasts to the Empire increased the
area of Transcaucasia to over 130,000 square miles. The estimated population
of the entire region in 1886 was 4,700,000, of whom 940,000 (20 percent) were
Armenian, 1,200,000 (25 percent) Georgian, and 2,220,000 (45 percent) Moslem.
Of the latter group, 1,140,000 were Tatars. Paradoxically, barely one-third
of Transcaucasia's Armenians lived in the Erevan guberniia, where the
Christians constituted a majority in only three of the seven uezds. Erevan
uezd, the administrative center of the province, had only 44,000 Armenians
as compared to 68,000 Moslems. By the time of the Russian Census of 1897,
however, the Armenians had established a scant majority, 53 percent, in the
guberniia; it had risen by 1916 to 60 percent, or 670,000 of the 1,120,000
inhabitants. This impressive change in the province's ethnic character
notwithstanding, there was, on the eve of the creation of the Armenian
Republic, a solid block of 370,000 Tartars who continued to dominate the
southern districts, from the outskirts of Ereven to the border of Persia."
(See also Map 1. Historic Armenia and Map 4. Administrative subdivisions of
Transcaucasia).
In 1920, '0' percent Turk.
"We closed the roads and mountain passes that might serve as
ways of escape for the Tartars and then proceeded in the work
of extermination. Our troops surrounded village after village.
Little resistance was offered. Our artillery knocked the huts
into heaps of stone and dust and when the villages became untenable
and inhabitants fled from them into fields, bullets and bayonets
completed the work. Some of the Tartars escaped of course. They
found refuge in the mountains or succeeded in crossing the border
into Turkey. The rest were killed. And so it is that the whole
length of the borderland of Russian Armenia from Nakhitchevan to
Akhalkalaki from the hot plains of Ararat to the cold mountain
plateau of the North were dotted with mute mournful ruins of
Tartar villages. They are quiet now, those villages, except for
howling of wolves and jackals that visit them to paw over the
scattered bones of the dead."
Ohanus Appressian
"Men Are Like That"
p. 202.
"In Soviet Armenia today there no longer exists a single Turkish soul.
It is in our power to tear away the veil of illusion that some of us
create for ourselves. It certainly is possible to severe the artificial
life-support system of an imagined 'ethnic purity' that some of us
falsely trust as the only structure that can support their heart beats
in this alien land."
(Sahak Melkonian - 1920 - "Preserving the Armenian purity")
<1993Apr24.042427.29323@walter.bellcore.com>
ddc@nyquist.bellcore.com (Daniel Dusan Chukurov 21324)
> The world's inaction when the conflict began over the mostly
>Christian Armenian enclave inside Muslim Azerbaijan might have
>encouraged the conflict in Bosnia-Herzegovina, said the
>Moscow-based activist, who's part Armenian.
No kidding. The Armenians tore apart the Ottoman Empire's eastern provinces,
massacred 2.5 million defenseless Turkish women, children and elderly
people, burned thousands of Turkish and Kurdish villages and exterminated
the entire Turkish population of the Armenian dictatorship between
1914-1920. Such outrageous sleight of hand that is still employed today
in Armenia brings a depth and verification to the Turkish genocide
that is hard to match. A hundred years ago Armenians again thought
they could get whatever they wanted through sheer terror like the
Russian anarchists that they accepted as role models. Several Armenian
terror groups like ASALA/SDPA/ARF Terrorism and Revisionism Triangle
resorted to the same tactics in the 1980s, butchering scores of innocent
Turks and their families in the United States and Europe. It seems that
they are doing it again, at a different scale, in fascist x-Soviet Armenia
today.
A merciless massacre of the civilian population of the small Azeri
town of Khojali (Pop. 6000) in Karabagh, Azerbaijan, is reported to
have taken place on the night of Feb. 28 under a coordinated military
operation of the 366th mechanized division of the CIS army and the
Armenian insurgents. Close to 1000 people are reported to have been
massacred. Elderly and children were not spared. Many were badly beaten
and shot at close range. A sense of rage and helplessness has overwhelmed
the Azeri population in face of the well armed and equipped Armenian
insurgency. The neighboring Azeri city of Aghdam outside of the
Karabagh region has come under heavy Armenian artillery shelling. City
hospital was hit and two pregnant women as well as a new born infant
were killed. Azerbaijan is appealing to the international community to
condemn such barbaric and ruthless attacks on its population and its
sovereignty.
Serdar Argic
'We closed the roads and mountain passes that
might serve as ways of escape for the Turks
and then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
(Ohanus Appressian - 1919)
'In Soviet Armenia today there no longer exists
a single Turkish soul.' (Sahak Melkonian - 1920)
| 17talk.politics.mideast |
In article <1ralibINNc0f@cbl.umd.edu> mike@starburst.umd.edu (Michael F. Santangelo) writes:
>dbm0000@tm0006.lerc.nasa.gov (David B. Mckissock) writes:
>
>...text of options "A" and "B" deleted...
>
>>Option C - Single Core Launch Station.
>>This is the JSC lead option. Basically, you take a 23 ft diameter
>>cylinder that's 92 ft long, slap 3 Space Shuttle Main Engines on
>>the backside, put a nose cone on the top, attached it to a
>>regular shuttle external tank and a regular set of solid rocket
>>motors, and launch the can. Some key features are:
>> - Complete end-to-end ground integration and checkout
>> - 4 tangentially mounted fixed solar panels
>> - body mounted radiators (which adds protection against
>> micrometeroid & orbital debris)
>> - 2 centerline docking ports (one on each end)
>> - 7 berthing ports
>> - a single pressurized volume, approximately 26,000 cubic feet
>> (twice the volume of skylab).
>> - 7 floors, center passageway between floors
>> - 10 kW of housekeeping power
>
>Somehow I have a strange attraction for this idea (living in
>a modular home maybe has altered my mind). The only thing
>that scares me is the part about simply strapping 3 SSME's and
>a nosecone on it and "just launching it." I have this vision
>of something going terribly wrong with the launch resulting in the
>complete loss of the new modular space station (not just a peice of
>it as would be the case with staged in-orbit construction).
I certainly like this "Option C"... It's much more like the original
Phase B studies from the early 1970's. Good stuff!
--
Dave Michelson -- davem@ee.ubc.ca -- University of British Columbia
| 14sci.space |
In article <30930@galaxy.ucr.edu> raffi@watnxt08.ucr.edu (Raffi R Kojian) writes:
>The treatment of Armenians by Azeri's equals the treatment Bosnian
>Muslims are getting from the Bosnian Serbs.
That is the result of living in an alternate universe with 'Arromdians'
of the ASALA/SDPA/ARF Terrorism and Revisionism Triangle. Are you '*ians'
for real?
A Final Goodbye in Azerbaijan:
[Photo by Associated Press]: "At a cemetery in Agdam, Azerbaijan, family
members and friends grieved during the burial of victims killed in the
fighting in Nagorno-Karabagh. Chingiz Iskandarov, right, hugged the
coffin containing the remains of his brother, one of the victims. A copy
of Koran lay atop the coffin."
The New York Times, 3/6/92
Final Embrace :
[Photo by Associated Press]: "Chingiz Iskenderov, right, weeps over
coffin holding the remains of his brother as other relatives grieve
at an Azarbaijani cemetery yesterday amid burial of victims killed
in fighting in Nagorno-Karabagh."
The Washington Post, 3/6/92
Nagorno-Karabagh Victims Buried in Azerbaijani Town :
"Refugees Claim Hundreds died in Armenian Attack...Of seven bodies seen
here today, two were children and three were women, one shot through
the chest at what appeared to be close range. Another 120 refugees
being treated at Agdam's hospital include many with multiple stab
wounds."
Thomas Goltz
The Washington Post, 2/28/92
Armenians Burn Azeri Village in New Unrest:
"Armenian guerillas attacked a strategic Azeri village...in Nagorno-Karabagh
and burned it to the ground on Tuesday, Commonwealth television reported.
Channel one television said the village of Malybeili, in the Khodzhalin
district, was now cut off and a large number of wounded were left stranded.
Itar-Tass news agency said several people were killed and 20 wounded in
the attack on the village... Tass also said shells fired from Armenian
villages into the Azeri populated town of Susha, just 6 miles south of
Stepenakert, demolished two houses and damaged five others...Fierce fighting
flared two weeks ago following the crash of an Azeri helicopter in Karabagh
in which 40 people died." (Reuters)
Turkish Daily News, 2/12/92
CIS Commander Pulls Troops Out of Karabagh :
"Elif Kaban, a Reuter correspondent in Agdam, reported that after a battle
on Wednesday, Azeris were burying scores of people who died when Armenians
overran the town of Khojaly, the second-biggest Azeri settlement in the
area. 'The world is turning its back on what's happening here. We are dying
and you are just watching,' one mourner shouted at a group of journalists."
Helen Womack
The Independent, 2/29/92
Armenian Soldiers Massacre Hundreds of Fleeing Families:
"The attackers killed most of the soldiers and volunteers defending the
women and children. They then turned their guns on the terrified refugees.
The few survivors later described what happened: 'That's when the real
slaughter began,' said Azer Hajiev, one of the three soldiers to survive.
'The Armenians just shot and shot. And they came in and started carving
up people with their bayonets and knives.' A 45-year-old man who had been
shot in the back said:' We were walking through the brush. Then they opened
up on us and people were falling all around. My wife fell, then my child."
Thomas Goltz
Sunday Times, 3/1/92
Armenian Raid Leaves Azeris Dead or Fleeing:
"...about 1,000 of Khojaly's 10,000 people were killed in Tuesdays attack.
Azerbaijani television showed truckloads of corpses being evacuated from
the Khocaly area."
Brian Killen (Reuters)
The Washington Times, 3/2/92
Atrocity Reports Horrify Azerbaijan :
"Azeri officials who returned from the seen to this town about nine miles
away brought back three dead children, the backs of their heads blown off...
'Women and children had been scalped,' said Assad Faradzev, an aide to
Karabagh's Azeri governor. Azeri television showed pictures of one
truckload of bodies brought to the Azeri town of Agdam, some with their
faces apparently scratched with knives or their eyes gouged out."
Brian Killen (Reuters)
The Washington Times, 3/3/92
Massacre By Armenians Being Reported:
"The Republic of Armenia reiterated denials that its militants had
killed 1,000 [Azeris]... But dozens of bodies scattered over the
area lent credence to Azerbaijani reports of a massacre."
(Reuters)
The New York Times, 3/3/92
Killings Rife in Nagorno-Karabagh, Moldova:
"Journalists in the area reported seeing dozens of corpses, including some
of the civilians, and Azerbaijani officials said Armenians began shooting
at them when they sought to recover the bodies."
Fred Hiatt
The Washington Post, 3/3/92
Bodies Mark Site of Karabagh Massacre:
"A local truce was enforced to allow the Azerbaijanis to collect their dead
and any refugees still hiding in the hills and forest. All are the bodies
of ordinary people, dressed in the poor, ugly clorhing of workers. Of the 31
we saw only one policeman and two apparent national volunteers were wearing
uniform. All the rest were civilians, including eight women and three small
children. Two groups, apparently families, had fallen together, the children
cradled in the women's arms. Several of them, including one small girl, had
terrible head injuries: only her face was left. Survivors have told how they
saw Armenians shooting them point blank as they lay on the ground."
Anatol Lieven
The Times (London), 3/3/92
Karabagh Survivors Flee to Mountains:
"Geyush Gassanov, the deputy mayor of Khocaly, said that Armenian troops
surrounded the town after 7 pm on Tuesday. They were accompanied by six
or seven light tanks and armoured carriers. 'We thought they would just
bombard the village, as they had in the past, and then retreat. But they
attacked, and our defence force couldn't do anything against their tanks.'
Other survivors described how they had been fired on repeatedly on their
way through the mountains to safety. 'For two days we crawled most of the
way to avoid gunfire,' Sukru Aslanov said. His daughter was killed in the
battle for Khodjaly, and his brother and son died on the road."
Anatol Lieven
The Times (London), 3/3/92
Corpses Litter Hills in Karabagh:
"As we swooped low over the snow covered hills of Nagorno-Karabagh we saw
the scattered corpses. Apparently, the refugees had been shot down as
they ran...Suddenly there was a thump...[our Azerbaijani helicopter] had
been fired on from an Armenian anti-aircraft post..."
Anatol Lieven
The Times (London), 3/4/92
"Police in western Azerbaijan said they had recovered the bodies of
120 Azerbaijanis killed as they fled an Armenian assault in the
disputed enclave of Nagorno-Karabagh and said they were blocked from
recovering more bodies."
The Wall Street Journal, 3/4/92
Exiting Troops Attacked in Nagorno-Karabagh:
"Withdrawal halted; Armenians Blamed...
More video footage and reports from Khocaly paint a grim picture of
widespread civilian deaths and mutilation...
One woman's feet appeared to have been bound..."
Paul Quinn-Judge
The Boston Globe, 3/4/92
(to be continued...)
Serdar Argic
'We closed the roads and mountain passes that
might serve as ways of escape for the Turks
and then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
(Ohanus Appressian - 1919)
'In Soviet Armenia today there no longer exists
a single Turkish soul.' (Sahak Melkonian - 1920)
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In article <1483500348@igc.apc.org> cpr@igc.apc.org (Center for Policy Research) writes:
>
>From: Center for Policy Research <cpr>
>
>A unconventional proposal for peace in the Middle-East.
>---------------------------------------------------------- by
> Elias Davidsson
Of all the stupid postings you've brought here recently, it is
illuminating that you chose to put your own name on perhaps the
stupidest of them.
>The following proposal is based on the following assumptions:
>
>1. Fundamental human rights, such as the right to life, to
>education, to establish a family and have children, to human
>dignity, the right to free movement, to free expression, etc. are
>more important to human existence that the rights of states.
Does this mean that you are calling for the dismantling of the Arab
states?
>2. In the event of a conflict between basic human rights and
>rights of collectivities, basic human rights should prevail.
Apparently, your answer is yes.
>6. Attempts to solve the Israeli-Arab conflict by traditional
>political means have failed.
Attempts to solve these problem by traditional military means and
non-traditional terrorist means has also failed. But that won't stop
them from trying again. After all, it IS a Holy War, you know....
>7. As long as the conflict is perceived as that between two
>distinct ethnical/religious communities/peoples which claim the
>land, there is no just nor peaceful solution possible.
"No just solution possible." How very encouraging.
>Having stated my assumptions, I will now state my proposal.
You mean that it gets even funnier?
>1. A Fund should be established which would disburse grants
>for each child born to a couple where one partner is Israeli-Jew
>and the other Palestinian-Arab.
[...]
>3. For the first child, the grant will amount to $18.000. For
>the second the third child, $12.000 for each child. For each
>subsequent child, the grant will amount to $6.000 for each child.
>
>4. The Fund would be financed by a variety of sources which
>have shown interest in promoting a peaceful solution to the
>Israeli-Arab conflict,
No, the Fund should be financed by the Center for Policy Research. It
IS a major organization, isn't it? Isn't it?
>5. The emergence of a considerable number of 'mixed'
>marriages in Israel/Palestine, all of whom would have relatives on
>'both sides' of the divide, would make the conflict lose its
>ethnical and unsoluble core and strengthen the emergence of a
>truly civil society.
Yeah, just like marriages among Arabs has strengthened their
societies.
>The existence of a strong 'mixed' stock of
>people would also help the integration of Israeli society into the
>Middle-East in a graceful manner.
The world could do with a bit less Middle Eastern "grace".
>Objections to this proposal will certainly be voiced. I will
>attempt to identify some of these:
Boy, you're a one-man band. Listen, if you'd like to Followup on your
own postings and debate with yourself, just tell us and we'll leave
you alone.
--
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American-Occupied New York have replaced Jimmy Carter as the
My opinions only - employer has no opinions. standard of a failed President.
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In article <CB.93Apr5130728@tamarack13.timbuk>, cb@tamarack13.timbuk (Chris Brewster) writes:
> Craig Depken writes:
>
> The fact that the South had a number of slave owners is true, but
> relatively small numbers (around 1200) had more than a few hundred slaves.
> (I have to get references that I do not have here for
> exact numbers.)
>
> If it has any bearing on this discussion, I saw a figure for the total
> number of slave-owners as 300,000. Does anyone have a figure for how
> many slaves there were? How many farmers without slaves?
>
> Chris Brewster E-MAIL ADDRESS: cb@cray.com
In 1860:
region total population free blacks % slaves %
U.S. 32,227,616 487,070 1.5% 3,953,818 12.3%
Confederacy 9,103,332 132,760 1.5% 3,521,110 38.7%
Union Slave States 3,212,041 128,158 4.0% 432,586 13.5%
All Union States 23,124,284 354,310 1.5% 432,708 1.9%
Union "Free" States 19,912,243 226,152 1.1% 122 0.0%
--
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Relations between people to be by mutual consent, or not at all.
| 18talk.politics.misc |
A bit more than a year ago, a hernia in my right groin was
discovered. It had produced a dull pain in that area. The hernia
was repaired using the least intrusive (orthoscopic?) method and a
"plug and patch".
The doctor considered the procedure a success.
A few months later the same pain returned. The doctor said that
he could find nothing wrong in the area of the hernia repair.
Now the pain occurs more often. My GP couldn't identify any
specific problem. The surgen who performed the original procedure
now says that yes there is a "new" hernia in the same area and he
said that he has to cut into the area for the repair this time.
My question to the net: Is there a nonintrusive method to
determine if in fact there is a hernia or if the pain is from
something else?
Steve Heffner
| 13sci.med |
I'd be interested in a copy of this code if you run across it.
(Mail to the author bounced)
> / hpldsla:comp.graphics / ricky@vnet.ibm.com (Rick Turner) / 12:53 am May 13,
1993 /
> I fooled around with this problem a few years ago, and implemented a
> simple method that ran on a PC.
> was very simple - about 40 or 50 lines of code.
. . .
> Somewhere I still have it
> and could dig it out if there was interest.
>
> Rick
Dan Conway
dconway@hpsid.sid.hp.com
| 1comp.graphics |
Re: Rubbing Compound....
You mean Meguire's* didn't work?
* THE DOD magic elixir of choice for plastic stuff
Ron Miller
DoD 693
| 8rec.motorcycles |
In article <m5c5fkj@rpi.edu> antonh@rpi.edu writes:
>say, can anyone send my info on how to encrpyt a hard disk [...]
>ps. I would also like know the consequences of those types of actions if i
>so chose to do them in the future in this country and european countries.
People have been encrypting notes in their notebooks for hundreds of years
-- maybe over a thousand. It's a long tradition dating at least back to
the alchemists.
I know of nothing bad happening to them. I would assume that nothing bad
would happen to you, given this long history establishing encryption as
the property of individuals, to do with as they please.
--
- <<Disclaimer: All opinions expressed are my own, of course.>>
- Carl Ellison cme@sw.stratus.com
- Stratus Computer Inc. M3-2-BKW TEL: (508)460-2783
- 55 Fairbanks Boulevard ; Marlborough MA 01752-1298 FAX: (508)624-7488
| 11sci.crypt |
In article <1qvfik$6rf@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> cj195@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (John W. Redelfs) writes:
>
>Now that Big Brother has rubbed out one minority religion in Waco, who is
>next? The Mormons or Jews?
>
>[...]
>
>Of course, to Jews and Mormons this is just a broken record. It has
>happened before.
It's only been happening to the Mormons for... what? 150 years?
Pikers. We've been persecuted for well over 3000 years. The Mormons
just aren't in our league.
(Am I the only one who's reminded of Masada?)
--
Andrew M. Solovay
"I have been Foolish and Deluded,
and I am a Bear of No Brain at All." -- Pooh
| 19talk.religion.misc |
We have a Sun CD-ROM drive which I would like to play audio CD's in.
I have an old 10 watt amplifier which works fine when connected to a
junk "Walkman" style AM/FM radio. This amp ties the common path of the
earphone connection to ground.
However, it doesn't work with my Sony Walkman cassette player, or the CD drive,
it produces of loud low-frequency tone. Obviously Sony doesn't ground
the earphone output common. Does anyone have specs on the CD drive's
output? Will an audio transformer help? What are others using to
play there CD's in the Sun drive so that more than one can listen?
Thanks for the help.
--
Bill Morrow Clinical Neurosciences, University of Calgary
e-mail: morrow@cns.ucalgary.ca voice: (403) 220-6275 fax: (403) 283-8770
3330 Hospital Drive NW Calgary, Alberta, CANADA T2N 4N1
| 12sci.electronics |
Hello,
I am planning on attending Podiatry School next year.
I have narrowed my choices to the Pennsylvania College of Podiatric
Medicine, in Philadelphia, or the California College of Podiatric
Medicine in San Francisco.
If anyone has any information or oppinions about these two schools, please
tell me. I am having a hard time deciding which one to attend, and must
make a decision very soon.
thank you, Larry
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Live From New York, It's SATURDAY NIGHT...
Tonight's special guest:
Lawrence Silverberg from The State University of New York @ Albany
aka:ls8139@gemini.Albany.edu
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
| 13sci.med |
|In hallam@dscomsa.desy.de (Phill Hallam-Baker) writes:
|> The founding fathers of the US were hardly great on religious freedoms. At
|> least one history I have read formed the opinion that they left for the
|> US not to practice religious freedom but to practice religious intolerance.
Maybe I should take Phill out of my kill file, it looks like his rantings
are starting to get amusing.
Phill, once again you are demonstrating your extreme ignorance. The founding
fathers were for the most part born in the area that was to become the US.
They did not leave anywhere to come here.
--
Mob rule isn't any prettier merely because the mob calls itself a government
It ain't charity if you are using someone else's money.
Wilson's theory of relativity: If you go back far enough, we're all related.
Mark.Wilson@AtlantaGA.NCR.com
| 19talk.religion.misc |
This may be a very naive question but is there any basis for the
claim that a CPU will get hotter when a computationally intensive
job is running? My friend claims that there will be little difference
in the temperature of an idle CPU and a CPU running a computationally
intensive job.
Lino Montuno
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
For image display, about 10 frames per second seems to be the lower limit
for interactive operations. For just bringing up an image for viewing less
than 1 second seems to be a good number. Of course the measure of response
time should be based on the applications you are planning to run.
| 5comp.windows.x |
In article <1r1r3nINNebn@dns1.NMSU.Edu> amolitor@nmsu.edu (Andrew Molitor) writes:
>In article <C5so84.Hxv@demon.co.uk> Graham Toal <gtoal@gtoal.com> writes:
>>Actually, I am *completely* baffled by why Dorothy Denning has chosen
>>to throw away her academic respectability like this.
> Actually, I've been following her remarks for some time, with
>interest. I'm also a member of academia, and her remarks have nothing
>but elevate her respectability in my eyes. It remains to be seen whether
>you are the radical fringe, or I.
> It is generally an error to assume that your beliefs are held by
>the majority, or even a sizable minority. Especially when you're seeing
>tens, nay dozens, of people on usenet agreeing with you.
The people on usenet are clearly a special bunch. We live the net, which
is the future of our culture. Usenetters have rapid electronic access to
information. Society in general must depend on CNN.
I can only hope we can make this information accessable by the public before
the radical fringe, which _is_ the majority, destroys the fabric of
this country. Freedom is never easily won.
-Thomas
| 11sci.crypt |
In article <philC5Ht85.H48@netcom.com> phil@netcom.com (Phil Ronzone) writes:
>
>Not at all. You are apparently just another member of the Religious Left.
>
Not at all. I am not a member of the Religious Left, Right, or even
Center. In fact I don't consider myself very religious at all [ this will
probably result in flames now :) ]. In fact Phil, you should leave
religion out of it. It just clouds the issue.
>Show me all these environmental "disasters". Most of them aren't. And the
>natural disasters we have had individually far outweigh the man-made ones.
How typical. So you think we shouldn't avoid these 'events' [ I shall
refrain from the word disaster since it seems to upset you so much. :( ]
when we can. In case you didn't realize it, the natural disasters [ oops,
sorry events ] you are refering to we have no control over. Man-made
ones we do.
I guess you missed the show on Ch 20 earlier this week about the disaster
[ oops there I go again... I meant to say event ] on the Exxon Valdez.
Just a natural every day occurance to spread oil on 300 Miles of beach. I
would like to know which natural event [ hey I remembered not to say disaster ]
that would be similar to this.
>Most of your so-called disasters (Love Canal, Times Beach, TMI) aren't
>disasters at all.
Hmm, I suppose you could be right. They are as natural as a tree, or a
sunrise. NOT !
>So look, if you want to worship trees (or owls or snails or whatever), fine, do
>so. But DON'T try to push the scaredness of YOUR religious off onto me.
>
So look, if you want to worship a oil slick ( or toxic waste dump or live
in a house that has a cesspool in the front yard ), fine, you have my
permission to do so [ yea right like you need MY permission... ], it just
won't be in the neighborhood where I live. But DON'T try to push your
shortsighted tunnelvision views off on the rest of us.
--
| Russell Hockins | There are people who believe that there is |
| Innovative Interfaces, Inc. | no such thing as an environmental disaster.|
| | Pretty weird... ain't it? |
| My own opinions no one elses | packet : ka6foy @ ki6yk.#nocal.ca.na.usa |
| 18talk.politics.misc |
How hard or easy would it be to have a combo mission such as a solar sail on
the way out to the outer planets, but once in near to orbit to use more normal
means..
Seems that everyone talks about using one system and one system only per
mission, why not have more than one propulsion system? Or did I miss
something.. ?? or did it die in committee?
==
Michael Adams, nsmca@acad3.alaska.edu -- I'm not high, just jacked
| 14sci.space |
In article <6998@blue.cis.pitt.edu> genetic+@pitt.edu (David M. Tate) writes:
>I've read all of the followups to this, but I thought I'd go back to the
>original article to make specific comments about the method:
>
>
>jao@megatest.com (John Oswalt) said:
>>
>>He has obtained the play by play records, in computer readable
>>form, for every major league baseball game for the past several years.
>>He devised an algorithm which I call "sum-over-situations", and wrote
>>a computer program to calculate every major league players contribution
>>using it. It works like this:
>>
>>Look at every "situation" in every game in a baseball season. A
>>situation is determined by inning, score, where the baserunners are,
>>and how many outs there are. For each situation, count how many
>>times the team eventually won the game that the situation occured in,
>>and divide by the number of times the situation came up, to come up with
>>a "value" for that situation.
>
>This was first done by George Lindsey in the late '50s/early '60s, and
>reported in
>
> Article: An Investigation of Strategies in Baseball
> Author: George R. Lindsey
> Journal: Operations Research
> Issue: Volume 11 #4, July-August 1963, pp. 477-501
>
>Later, Pete Palmer did the same thing using simulated seasons to generate
>a larger set of data to avoid the kind of small-sample anomalies that other
>people have worried about. He reported this in _The_Hidden_Game_of_Baseball_
>(with John Thorn). Gary Skoog modified the method a bit and did some work
>on what he called a "Value Added" measure based on these situational values.
>His were based directly on marginal runs, though, not on win probabilities.
>These results, as applied to the 198? season, were reported in one of the
>Bill James Baseball Abstract books (1987? Help me out here, somebody...)
>
>>For example, a situation might be inning 3, score 2-0, runner on second
>>and no outs. There were 4212 regular season major league games last
>>year. (With the Rockies and Marlins, there will be more this year.)
>>Say this situation came up in 100 of those, and the team ahead won
>>75 of them. Then the value of this situation is 0.75.
>
>[Description of method: look at change in win probability based on the at bat
> plus any baserunning, and credit/debit the player by that amount each time
> he gets a plate appearance.]
>
>>Now, for each player, sum up all his at-bat and base-running values
>>for the season to obtain an overall value for that player. Obviously
>>the sum of all players' values for each game, and for the season as a
>>whole, will be 0.
>
>That's only because you always credit +x to the batter and -x to the pitcher;
>there's no validation involved.
>
>OK, there's a very big problem here that nobody has yet commented on: you're
>adding *probabilities*, and probabilities don't add. Runs you can add; the
>total team runs breaks down into how many runs Joe contributed plus how many
>runs Fred contributed, etc. But probabilities don't work that way. If Bob
>increases his team's chance of winning by 1% in each of 400 PAs, that does
>not mean that Bob increased his team's chance of winning by 400%. In fact,
>it doesn't mean *anything*, because the units are screwy.
I agree and disagree. John is saying that the batters efforts will result
in 4 more wins then losses. While you are probably correct that 400%
does not mean 4 more wins then losses, it means something. I would
rather have a player who increased my teams chances of winning by 1% in
each of 400 PAs then I would a player who increased my chances of winning
by .5% in each of 400 PAs. Thus, there appears to me to be an obvious
positive association between John's statistic and winning games. Thus,
before you disregard this stat, it appears to me that further study must
go into what sort of relationship there is.
>Consider an example: Bob hits a 2-out solo HR in the bottom of the first;
>about .12 on your scale. He does the same thing again in the fourth, with
>the score tied, for another .14. And again, in the seventh, with the score
>tied, for another .22. And, finally, in the ninth to win the game by a score
>of 7-6, for a value of 0.5. Bob hit 4 solo HR in 4 plate appearances, and
>was credited by your method with .12 + .14 + .22 + .5 = .98. But what does
>that mean? Was Bob 98% responsible for the win? Certainly not; the defense
>is *always* 50% responsible (if you include pitching in that), and Bob wasn't
>pitching. In fact, Bob was only 4/7 of the offense (which is a lot, but not
>even close to 100%). Furthermore, what about the other 3 team runs? Say
>they all came on solo HR by Fred; then Fred was hitting HR to tie up the game,
>which are just as valuable as HR to take the lead (see Lindsey), and Fred will
>himself have accrued a good .4 rating or so. So Fred and Bob combined have
>amassed 138% of a win IN ONE GAME. There's clearly a problem here.
The only problem here is an insistance that these number mean exactly
how many wins the team has. First, we are using averages over many
seasons and applying them to one game. Second, remember some players
performance take away from the chance of you winning. That is a
player who gets an out gets a "negative probability" in most cases.
Thus, I'm not sure in any given game when you add up all the numbers
for a team who won that they will add up to 1 in that game. Sometimes,
they will add up to more then one sometime, less than one. Also,
the pitchers' bad performances (giving up 6 runs) may have given
them a large negative percentage for that game. Also, any batter that
pulled an 0-4 night would give large negatives.
>>Greg thinking about the right things, but his intuition is off the
>>mark. Closers are enormously important. The total number of runs
>>value is outweighed by when they come, or are prevented from comming.
>>The doubling which Greg allows is not enough.
>
>In another article, I proposed a test of this. We can predict a team's
>won/lost record quite accurately by looking at how many runs *total* they
>score and allow, without regard to when those runs score in the game. If
>late runs are really more important than early runs, then looking only at
>late runs should lead to a *better* predictor, right?
No, but really only because you have a smaller sample size. I would
think however, that the number of runs you score in the first inning
would be just as good as a prediction as how many runs you score
in the last inning. And, realize something else a closer usually
comes in in a close situation, not a blow out. It is hard to argue
that any runs that a closer gives up in a game have equal importance
to those given up in the first inning. Look, a closer giving up runs
often means a team will lose many games. On, the other hand a starter
who gives up runs often still leaves his team a chance to win. The
offence has many more outs to do something about. But, I am not
saying all late inning situations are equally important either. If
I am down 8 runs in the ninth, it really does not matter how many
runs my pitcher gives up in the ninth.
>Here's another thought experiment: apply this method to basketball. What
>you find is that points scored in the first *half* of the game have almost
>exactly no value, because no lead is safe with an entire half yet to play.
>Furthermore, the sub in off the bench who sinks the winning free throws with
>no time on the clock gets a +1.0 for the game, while the star forward who
>scored 27 points in the first half before spraining his ankle gets a zero.
>
>Does this make sense?
No, but why would you assume that the teams probability of winning would
be 0 before the possesion in which the free throws were made. Look,
if you are down 1 point with 5 seconds left, there is a fairly high
probability that you will win the game if you are in possesion of the
ball. And, do not forget that somebody elses missed shots, turnovers,
fouls, bad defense, etc. caused a "negative chance" that the team
would win.
From reading all of the discussion on this statistic, I feel that those
who critisize it to a certain extent are doing so out of an agenda.
At first look this statistic valadates clutchness. But, it really
does not. Cluthness revolves around the idea that certain players
in crucial situation elevate their performance and others performance
goes down. I've never seen convincing proof that this really happens.
So, if you assume there is no clutchness, then that means that except
for a lot of noice, this statistic has a positive association to
player performance. There is a way to get rid of the noice if you
do not believe in clutchness. Certainly, we could find out what
the average value of a home run is for example. We may find for
instance, that a home run increases your chance of winning by 15%
on average while a strikeout decreases your chance of winning by 5%.
I bet if this were done we would find that this statistic was just
as good as other statistics we have for predicting wins and losses.
How do we evaluate relief pitchers? Say John and Sam have the
exact same pitching statistics (runs, earned runs, K's, BB's,
etc.) Both had exceptional numbers. John, however only pitched
in closer situations, while Sam was a Mop up man. Who was more
valuble to their team? Probably John. Who was the better
pitcher? They were probably about the same.
Brian Smith
| 9rec.sport.baseball |
ZOROASTRIANISM
SAN JOSE, CA, USA
Monday April 5, 1993
San Jose Mercury News, Page 1
[Reproduced without permission]
_3,700-year tradition still glows -
'Assimilation in U.S. threatens ancient Zoroastrian religion'_
By Jeanne Huber, Mercury News Staff Writer
HIGH ON A HILLSIDE above San Jose, flames leap up 24 hours a day from a
gleaming brass urn in a temple - one of only four in the United States -
dedicated to one of the world's most ancient religions.
With the flames go the prayers of about 1,200 Bay Area Zoroastrians that
their faith will survive this land.
"There is a fear - a real fear, too," said Silloo Tarapore of Lafayette.
"We have one generation to do it or to die."
Many immigrant groups struggle to maintain an identity in a strange land.
But for Zoroastrians, it is an especially poignant concern.
Their religion has been around for perhaps 3,700 years, a heritage so deep
it scarcely seems comprehensible in a state where "historical sites" are
sometimes less than 100 years old. It was the religion of the great Persian
Empire under kings Cyrus and Darius. And tradition says that when Christ
was born about 500 years later, he was honored by a visit from three
Zoroastrian priests, the Magi. Scholars say many key beliefs of Christians,
Jews and Muslims can be traced to the teachings of Zoroaster, the
Zoroastrian prophet.
Yet, with only about 150,000 Zoroastrians in the entire world, they are
a miniscule minority in every country in which they live. Survival as a
people is very much on their minds.
Ironically, local Zoroastrians fear that the almost unlimited tolerance
of the United States may do what hundreds of years of persecution followed
by nearly 1,000 years of benign religious segregation could not do: cause
their young people to stop thinking of themselves as Zoroastrians.
Zoroastrians do not believe theirs is the only right religion, and they
actually shun the notion of trying to win converts. So if their children
become totally assimilated, they say, it's their children - rather than
the world at large - who will be the losers.
"It's important to have an identity," said Maneck Bhujwaia of San Jose,
a leader among Zoroastrians who came here from India. "It's important
for everybody - Irish, Scottish, Americans. It gives meaning to life.
You don't have to depend on the majority community to give you respect.
You can fall back on your own identity."
For Zoroastrians, there's much to be proud of.
Their prophet, Zoroaster, seeking to make sense of a culture in which
animal sacrifice to multiple gods was common, preached that there was
only one god, a good one. Zoroastrians call their god Ahura Mazda, which
translates as Lord of Wisdom and Light.
_Good vs. evil_
Zoroaster saw life as a constant struggle between good and evil, with
the good eventually winning. Men and women could join in the battle for
good, he said, and he warned that they would inevitably suffer consequences
such as shame and sorrow if they did wrong. He preached honesty, charity,
kindness to animals, respect for the environment, hard work, equality of
men and women - basic virtues preached by prophets of many religions.
But Zoroaster was perhaps unusual in that he told his followers not to
follow him blindly. He demanded they think for themselves. In fact,
Joseph Campbell, the famous scholar of the history and meaning of myths,
traced the Western emphasis on individual thought to the Zoroastrians.
Zoroastrians have many words for thought. Their motto, leaded into a
stained glass window over the sacred fire at the temple on the slopes of
Mount Hamilton, is "Good thoughts, good words, good deeds."
So it's not surprising that Zoroastrians value education highly. In India,
where a contingent of Zoroastrians arrived in the ninth century to escape
persecution by Muslims in Iran, Zoroastrians claim 100 percent literacy;
the overall statistic in India is just 60 percent.
About half of the Bay Area Zoroastrian community came here from India
and Pakistan, mostly to study at universities. The other half fled from
Iran after the 1979 revolution made that a fundamentalist Islamic state
where others had no rights.
Local Zoroastrians point with pride to ways their emphasis on "good
deeds" has improved life in every country they inhabit. In San Jose,
the recent restoration of the Hotel Sainte Clarie came about because
Manou Mobedshahi, a San Francisco-based hotelier, passed the boarded-up
downtown landmark on his way to and from the temple. At the temple's
dedication, the chief guest of honor was the mother of Zubin Mehta, the
Zoroastrian conductor of the New York Philharmonic Orchestra.
The temple exists because of another good deed: the decision by an
Iranian emigre, the late Arbab Rustom Guiv, to buy land for six temples
in North America. Besides the 10-acre site off Crothers Road on Mount
Hamilton, he paid for land in Los Angeles, Chicago, New York, Toronto,
and Vancouver. Until his gifts, there were no Zoroastrian temples on
this continent.
Local Zoroastrians raised money to build the actual temple, and the
property already had a large house that they have converted to a
community center.
The temple, dedicated a year ago on the birthday of the prophet
Zoroaster, is a simple structure with gleaming white walls, vaulted
ceilings and oak floors, partially covered with huge Oriental carpets.
Its central feature is the fire, set in the middle of a partly-glassed-
in area at the center of the building. Although Zoroastrians are
sometimes called "fire worshippers," they actually consider fire just
a symbol of God. "It helps us concentrate, just like Christians use the
cross and Muslims use the Holy Book," Bhujwala said.
The biggest celebration of the years occurs in early spring. For all
Iranians, including Zoroastrians, the New Year begins on the first day of
the season because of its symbolism as the start of new life. With
Zoroaster's birthday just six days later, the combination of religious
and secular holidays creates something on par with what most of the
United States celebrates between Christmas and Jan. 1.
For this year's celebration of the prophet's birthday, about 500 people
came to worship and revel.
"The good things in life are not forbidden," Esfandiar Anoushiravani,
a leader of the Iranian members, had said beforehand, and what followed
proved him right.
Inside the temple, worshipers filled every chair and sat or stood
around the edges of the room as about a half-dozen priests chanted
thanksgiving prayers around a table laden with braziers of smoking
sandalwood, glasses of milk and water, and a tray heaped with dried fruit
and nuts.
Kids crowded around, grabbing handfuls of the treats. "People eat the
fruit," Tarapore said. "It's a way to participate in the ceremony."
_Santa Claus, sort of_
The gathering even had a Santa Claus, Iranian style. With flowing white
hair and a bag of gifts for the children, this Amownaroz wore green
symbolic of spring) and red.
He was ushed in by a sort of spring clown, Hajefyrouz, who danced and
played a tambourine.
The Zoroastrians from India were charmed. "This is all new for us, too,"
one told a visitor who asked what was going on.
A visitor, John A. Sabanovich of Folsom, said he became intrigued with
the religion years ago while on business trips to Iran. Zoroastrians have
no procedure for accepting converts - a result, some say, of their
centuries of persecution in Iran followed by their promise to the Hindu
king who allowed them into India that they would not interfere with his
people's religion.
But that does not stop Sabavich from joining in the celebrations at the
San Jose temple whenever he can.
"When I first heard about this religion," he said, "I thought, my God,
this is what a religion should be. They think for themselves and do good.
"People who don't have a tradition, something to lean on, what's the
difference with the lower animals?"
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| 19talk.religion.misc |
I have attached a copy of an announcement I picked up during my trip to
Moscow last week. I have several friends at the Moscow Aviation
Institute who have asked me to post this announcement. (I have done
some editing, but the contents is unchanged from the original
announcement.)
For those of you not familiar with the Moscow Aviation Institute, it is
the leading Russian school of higher education dedicated to the training
of aircraft and spacecraft designers. It specializes in airframe
design, powerplant design, control systems, and power systems.
Virtually all of the major former Soviet airframe designers (Tupolev,
Su, Iluchine, Migoyan, etc.) were schooled at MAI.
I had the opportunity to tour the two museums that are maintained at
MAI. The aircraft include Mig23, Su 27, Yak 38, the cockpit of an
F-111(!), among others. It was a fascinating and eye opening
experience, expecially given the fact that the museum was, until a year
or so ago, closed to virtually everyone. I also had the opportunity to
see some of the experiments being conducted with plasma drive engines
for future space craft use.
If you have any questions about the Institute, or the program, I would
be glad to try and answer them. The institute, and most of it's faculty
have e-mail addresses. However, it takes about a day or so for the
receiver to get the message. They are still a bit antiquated - but they
are rapidly changing!
Steve Emmett
semmett@gmuvax2.gmu.edu
ps please send any questions you have for me via e-mail. George Mason
university has about a 2 week (!) delay in news feed delivery.
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MOSCOW INTERNATIONAL AVIATION SCHOOL
The aviation school "Poljot" (meaning Flight) is organized by the the
Moscow Aviation Institute, the prominent Russian Center of airspace
education and the foreign trade firm Poljot, well known in various
parts of the world for their quartz and mechanical wrist watches.
The course of studies will last only 50 days, but during this time
you will have the unique opportunity:
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In article 27089, alvstad@mari.acc-admin.stolaf.edu (Mad Dog) reports:
>A fine 26 year history came to a close tonight, as the Minnesota North Stars,
>or Norm's Stars (whichever you prefer) lost to the Red Wings by a score of
>5-3. The Stars goals were scored by Mike McPhee and Ulf Dahlen, who netted
>two including the final one in franchise history, with less than a minute to
>play.
Are there any further stories to report on the eve' of Norm's farewell
from the twin cities? In an earlier post, it was announced that Norm
Green was given until midnight of the last home-game of the North Stars
to cleanup his belongings and turn in the keys to the arena.
Did this happen? Was Norm run-out-of-town?
Rumor has it that while he was attempting to remove the score board,
the score-board fell to the ice and flattened Mr. Greedy to a large
piece of green paper. Arena management had to use the Zamboni (which
they confiscated from Norm's truck) to clean-up the useless remains.
-- Mike
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
vbv@r2d2.eeap.cwru.edu (Virgilio (Dean) B. Velasco Jr.) writes:
> In article <Apr.13.00.08.35.1993.28412@athos.rutgers.edu> caralv@caralv.auto-trol.com (Carol Alvin) writes:
> > (Virgilio (Dean) B. Velasco Jr.) writes:
> >> (Carol Alvin) writes:
> >> > ...
> >> >Are all truths also absolutes?
> >> >Is all of scripture truths (and therefore absolutes)?
> >> >
> >> The answer to both questions is yes.
> >
> > ...
> >an absolute is something that is constant across time, culture,
> >situations, etc. True in every instance possible. Do you agree
> >with this definition? ...
> >
> Yes, I do agree with your definition. ...
>
> > [example of women covering their heads and not speaking]
>
> Hold it. I said that all of scripture is true. However, discerning
> exactly what Jesus, Paul and company were trying to say is not always so
> easy. I don't believe that Paul was trying to say that all women should
> behave that way. Rather, he was trying to say that under the circumstances
> at the time, the women he was speaking to would best avoid volubility and
> cover their heads. This has to do with maintaining a proper witness toward
> others. Remember that any number of relativistic statements can be derived
> from absolutes. For instance, it is absolutely right for Christians to
> strive for peace. However, this does not rule out trying to maintain world
> peace by resorting to violence on occasion. (Yes, my opinion.)
I agree that there is truth in scripture. There are principles to be
learned from it. Claiming that that truth is absolute, though, seems
to imply a literal reading of the Bible. If it were absolute truth
(constant across time, culture, etc.) then no interpretation would be
necessary.
It may be that the lessons gleaned from various passages are different
from person to person. To me, that doesn't mean that one person is
right and the other is wrong. I believe that God transcends our simple
minds, and that scripture may very well have been crafted with exactly
this intent. God knows me, and knows that my needs are different
from yours or anyone else's. By claiming that scripture is absolute,
then at least one person in every disputed interpretation must be wrong.
I just don't believe that God is that rigid.
> >Evangelicals are clearly not taking this particular part of scripture
> >to be absolute truth. (And there are plenty of other examples.)
> >Can you reconcile this?
>
> Sure. The Bible preaches absolute truths. However, exactly what those
> truths are is sometimes a matter of confusion. As I said, the Bible does
> preach absolute truths. Sometimes those fundamental principles are crystal
> clear (at least to evangelicals).
This is where the arrogance comes in to play. Since these principles
are crystal clear to evangelicals, maybe the rest of us should just take
their word for it? Maybe it isn't at all crystal clear to *me* that
their fundamental principles are either fundamental *or* principles.
I think we've established that figuring out Biblical truth is a matter
of human interpretation and therefore error-prone. Yet you can still
claim that some of them may be crystal clear? Maybe to a certain
segment of Christianity, but to all.
> >It's very difficult to see how you can claim something which is based
> >on your own *interpretation* is absolute.
>
> God revealed his Truths to the world, through His Word. It is utterly
> unavoidable, however, that some people whill come up with alternate
> interpretations. Practically anything can be misinterpreted, especially
> when it comes to matters of right and wrong. Care to deny that?
Not at all. I think it supports my position much more effectively
than yours. :-)
So, I think that your position is:
The Bible is absolute truth, but as we are prone to error in our
interpretation, we cannot reliably determine if we have figured out
what that truth is.
Did I get that right?
What's the point of spending all this time claiming and defending
absolute truth, when we can never know what those truths are, and we
can never (or at least shouldn't) act upon them? What practical
difference can this make?
Carol Alvin
caralv@auto-trol.com
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Please excuse and redirect me if this has already been answered, but is
there a small utility that switches the functionality of the caps-lock
key and the ctrl key on the powerbook keyboard? I use the ctrl key far
more than caps-lock, so it would be more convenient and comfortable.
Thank you for any help,
Scott Farrar
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In article <1qk73q$3fj@agate.berkeley.edu>, dzkriz@ocf.berkeley.edu (Dennis Kriz) writes:
...
> Well you know that you're getting somewhere, when you start getting
> responses like this.
>
> Kent, let me explain it to you.
>
> If you are paying for a phone, and you don't want call-waiting, YOU DON'T
> NEED TO PAY FOR CALl-WAITING.
Or, if the phone comany charges you as if you did, you could always
a) start your own company
b) use a different phone company
But we're talking about the government. Some want item 1, others item
2, etc. There will always be something someone doesn't want to fund.
You don't like abortion? Work to recriminalize it. But as long as it
is legal, you really don't have a chance in getting funding stopped
(permanently).
> This whole Clinton induced abortion debate SHOULD begin to make NARAL
> nervous, because it has exposed a real scam.
What scam? I'll never have a hysterctomy (sp?) but it's a legal
procedure and my health insurance company will pay for it. Shall I now argue
that I should be exempt from those fees?
Great, exept now I'll pay more since it's primarly men who have
prostate procedures. Not to mention the extra cost of keeping track of who
wants to pay for what.
If it bothers you that much, start your own health insurance company
that doesn't pay for abortion.
This is a free country, you know.
> If one is paying for a PRIVATE health insurance plan and DOES NOT WANT
> "abortion coverage" there is NO reason for that person to be COMPLELLED
> to pay for it. (Just as one should not be compelled to pay for lipposuction
> coverage if ONE doesn't WANT that kind of coverage).
So don't get coverage through that company. Simple.
> A full third of the country flatly considers abortion to be murder
> for reasons of conscience.
Source(s)?
> If the first amendment means ANYTHING at all
> anymore, then these people should NOT be COMPELLED to PAY for "abortion
> coverage" if it is so OBVIOUSLY offensive to their beliefs. Or are we
> going to start forcing Jews to eat pork, Quakers to fight in wars, etc?
No, but I imagine you'd have them pay to fight wars, wouldn't you?
> No one should be COMPELLED to sign a defacto "loyalty oath" in support of
> abortion in order to gain access to health care, ESPECIALLY if one's
> conscience is so obviously against the practice (of abortion).
So don't buy health insurance from that company. Simple.
Brett
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In article <1993Apr16.010235.14225@mtu.edu>, cescript@mtu.edu (Charles Scripter) writes:
-> > This mention of a well regulated militia is what confuses me. According
-> > to the Federalist Paper's, a well regulated militia has a well defined
-> > structure and follows nationally uniform regulations.
->
-> Perhaps you should actually READ the Federalist Papers!!
Perhaps you should, reread Federal 29 which deals exclusively with the
"well regulated malitia." Here is what is says about its character:
To oblige the great body of the yeomanry, and of the other classes
of the citizens, to be under arms for the purpose of going through
military exercises and evolutions, as often as might be necessary to
acquire the degree of perfection which would entitle them to the
character of a well-regulated militia,
It also talks about the "well regulated militia" having a nationally
uniform in structure and disipline.
I will note you did quote the end of this particular paragraph which states:
Little more can reasonably be aimed at, with
respect to the people at large, than to have them properly armed
and equipped; and in order to see that this be not neglected, it
will be necessary to assemble them once or twice in the course of
a year.
But, do you knew how much organization is required to training a large
group of poeple twice a year. Just to try to get the same people
every year, provide a basic training to new people so they can
be integrated into the force, and find a suitable location, it
requires a continually standing committee of organizers.
Since a well regulate militia is nationally uniform in structure and
disipline, and meet once or twice a year to train, how can you claim
a "well regulated militia" is not well organized. But I will concide
a "well organized militia" is not necessarily a "well regulated militia."
Several people have stated that the "well organized militia" is
what is defined under 10 USC 311, which states
The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied
males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in
section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are,
or who have made a declaration of intention to become,
citizens of the United States and of female citizents of
the United States who are commissioned officers of the
National Guard.
This deos define the militia, but were is the adjective "well regulated."
10 USC 311 does not define a "well regualed militia" in any way, shape,
or form. It only defines who can become part of a well regulated militia
The Federalist Papers CLEARLY define the "well regualed militia" as a
proper SUBSET of the militia. In the same paragraph quoted above, it
talk above "disciplining all the militia of the United States" so they
fit the "character of a well-regulated militia." This is what the
paragraph states about the associated costs:
It would form an annual deduction from the productive labor
of the country, to an amount which, calculating upon the
present numbers of the people, would not fall far short
of the whole expense of the civil establishments of all
the States. To attempt a thing which would abridge the
mass of labor and industry to so considerable an extent,
would be unwise: and the experiment, if made, could not
succeed, because it would not long be endured.
Another quote provide by Charles Scripter is:
James Madison, Federalist Paper 41 (regarding the "General Welfare" clause):
"Nothing is more natural nor common than first
to use a general phrase, and then to explain and qualify it by a
recital of particulars."
So the phrase "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall
not be infringed" must either qualify or explain the phrase "a well
regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state."
The definition of "explain" as stated in "The American Hertitage
Dictionary of the Enlish Language" The New College Edition, 1982 is:
1) To make plain or comprehensible; remove obscruity from;
elucidate: "It was the economists who undertook to explain
this puzzle"
2) To define; explicate; expound: He explained his plan.
3) To offer reasons for or a cause of; an answer for' justify:
explain an error
The second phrase clearly does not "explain" the first, therefore
the second phrase must "qualify" the first. The definition given
for "qualify" is:
1) To describe by enumerating the characteristics or qualities
of; characterize.
2) To make competent or suitable for office, position, or
task.
3) To give legal power to; make legally capable.
4) To modify, limit, or restrict, as giving exceptions.
5) To make less harsh or severe; moderate
6) Grammar: To modify the meaning of (a word or phrase)
Since "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be
infringed" does not describe, modify or make less harsh anything and
it has nothing to do with grammar or some sort of position or task.
By process of elimination it must fall into definition #3. And since
#3 deals with legal power, the same thing the Constitution does, it
must be the correct definition in this case. Therefore, "the right
of the people to keep and bear Arms" gives legal power to the "well
regualated militia" and this legal power "shall not be infringed".
I thank you very much Mr Scripter, you have provided me with more
evidence that the Second Amendment only concerns itseft with the
people's right to form well regulate militia, and says very little
about the right of an untrained person to "keep and bear" a .50 caliber
machine gun. And since I, totally untrained in the use of any firearm
(something I personly have meant to correct by going to a NRA gun
safety course and joining a gun club), cannot legally buy such a machine
gun, I conclude the courts and democraticly elected congress agree with
me.
-> So now we know which category Mr. Rutledge is in; He means to destroy
-> our Liberties and Rights.
I mean "to destory our Liberties and Rights." Is that why a participate
in the discussion of exactly what "our Libertues and Rights" are? I
force my version of "our Liberties and Rights" by begining statements
of what "our Liberties and Rights" with "All that the Second Amendment
clearly states to me." Using expressions, such as "states to me,"
clearly mean I intend to force my views on others? I don't think so.
So in effort not to force my views and not "to destory our Liberties and
Rights," I state that nothing I have written, or will write, in
the matter of "Liberties and Rights" is the final word. For I am only
one person among many and the final word on "Liberties and Rights" cleary
and irrevocably belongs to the many.
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Does anyone work with the A/ROSE card?
We have the problem that after certain crashes the card disappears from the
system, and lets crash the Mac then.
Okay, we don't use the card quite like one should, because we simulate
errors in the 68000. Before every instruction some specified registers are
masked, eg. to simulate a stuck-at-1-error in certain bits.
Normally, the "crash instance" of A/ROSE notices a crash, sets a flag and
stops working. By reading the mentioned flag the Mac can notice a card
crash. That works fine for almost all crashes, but as said, sometimes the
card doesn't set the flag and disappears from the system.
The documentation of A/ROSE does not tell us anything about its behavior
when crashing, and so at the moment we are trying to understand by analyzing
the assembler code, and that's both frustrating and lengthy.
So, can anyone help?
Please only reply via email, as I don't read this group.
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In article <1993Apr20.003522.22480@midway.uchicago.edu> thf2@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>In article <1qvfik$6rf@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> cj195@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (John W. Redelfs) writes:
>>Now that Big Brother has rubbed out one minority religion in Waco, who is
>>next? The Mormons or Jews?
>The Koreshians rubbed themselves out. Neither Mormons nor Jews have a
>propensity for dousing themselves with kerosene, so I'm not particularly
>concerned. (Or shall we blame Jim Jones on the government also?)
I believe we still remember Masada, where Jews killed themselves rather
than being captured by the Romans. While I do not agree with the
Davidians, I must admire their willingness to die for what they
believed, which Jews have had to do often.
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scrowe@hemel.bull.co.uk (Simon Crowe) writes:
>I am looking for an algorithm to determine if a given point is bound by a
>polygon. Does anyone have any such code or a reference to book containing
>information on the subject ?
Well, it's been a while since this was discussed so i take the liberty of
reprinting (without permission, so sue me) Eric Haines reprint of the very
interesting discussion of this topic...
/Jonas
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O \ / O
"Give a man a fish, and he'll eat one day.
Give a man a fishing rod, and he'll laze around fishing and never do anything."
With that in mind, I reprint (without permission, so sue me) relevant
information posted some years ago on this very problem. Note the early use of
PostScript technology, predating many of this year's papers listed in the
April 1st SIGGRAPH Program Announcement posted here a few days ago.
-- Eric
Intersection Between a Line and a Polygon (UNDECIDABLE??),
by Dave Baraff, Tom Duff
From: deb@charisma.graphics.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: comp.graphics
Keywords: P, NP, Jordan curve separation, Ursyhon Metrization Theorem
Organization: Program of Computer Graphics
In article [...] ncsmith@ndsuvax.UUCP (Timothy Lyle Smith) writes:
>
> I need to find a formula/algorithm to determine if a line intersects
> a polygon. I would prefer a method that would do this in as little
> time as possible. I need this for use in a forward raytracing
> program.
I think that this is a very difficult problem. To start with, lines and
polygons are semi-algebraic sets which both contain uncountable number of
points. Here are a few off-the-cuff ideas.
First, we need to check if the line and the polygon are separated. Now, the
Jordan curve separation theorem says that the polygon divides the plane into
exactly two open (and thus non-compact) regions. Thus, the line lies
completely inside the polygon, the line lies completely outside the polygon,
or possibly (but this will rarely happen) the line intersects the polyon.
Now, the phrasing of this question says "if a line intersects a polygon", so
this is a decision problem. One possibility (the decision model approach) is
to reduce the question to some other (well known) problem Q, and then try to
solve Q. An answer to Q gives an answer to the original decision problem.
In recent years, many geometric problems have been successfully modeled in a
new language called PostScript. (See "PostScript Language", by Adobe Systems
Incorporated, ISBN # 0-201-10179-3, co. 1985).
So, given a line L and a polygon P, we can write a PostScript program that
draws the line L and the polygon P, and then "outputs" the answer. By
"output", we mean the program executes a command called "showpage", which
actually prints a page of paper containing the line and the polygon. A quick
examination of the paper provides an answer to the reduced problem Q, and thus
the original problem.
There are two small problems with this approach.
(1) There is an infinite number of ways to encode L and P into the
reduced problem Q. So, we will be forced to invoke the Axiom of
Choice (or equivalently, Zorn's Lemma). But the use of the Axiom of
Choice is not regarded in a very serious light these days.
(2) More importantly, the question arises as to whether or not the
PostScript program Q will actually output a piece of paper; or in
other words, will it halt?
Now, PostScript is expressive enough to encode everything that a
Turing Machine might do; thus the halting problem (for PostScript) is
undecidable. It is quite possible that the original problem will turn
out to be undecidable.
I won't even begin to go into other difficulties, such as aliasing, finite
precision and running out of ink, paper or both.
A couple of references might be:
1. Principia Mathematica. Newton, I. Cambridge University Press, Cambridge,
England. (Sorry, I don't have an ISBN# for this).
2. An Introduction to Automata Theory, Languages, and Computation. Hopcroft, J
and Ulman, J.
3. The C Programming Language. Kernighan, B and Ritchie, D.
4. A Tale of Two Cities. Dickens, C.
--------
From: td@alice.UUCP (Tom Duff)
Summary: Overkill.
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill NJ
The situation is not nearly as bleak as Baraff suggests (he should know
better, he's hung around The Labs for long enough). By the well known
Dobbin-Dullman reduction (see J. Dullman & D. Dobbin, J. Comp. Obfusc.
37,ii: pp. 33-947, lemma 17(a)) line-polygon intersection can be reduced to
Hamiltonian Circuit, without(!) the use of Grobner bases, so LPI (to coin an
acronym) is probably only NP-complete. Besides, Turing-completeness will no
longer be a problem once our Cray-3 is delivered, since it will be able to
complete an infinite loop in 4 milliseconds (with scatter-gather.)
--------
From: deb@svax.cs.cornell.edu (David Baraff)
Well, sure its no worse than NP-complete, but that's ONLY if you restrict
yourself to the case where the line satisfies a Lipschitz condition on its
second derivative. (I think there's an '89 SIGGRAPH paper from Caltech that
deals with this).
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In article <1pi9jkINNqe2@gap.caltech.edu>, keith@cco.caltech.edu (Keith Allan Schneider) writes:
|> livesey@solntze.wpd.sgi.com (Jon Livesey) writes:
|>
|> >>>How long does it [the motto] have to stay around before it becomes the
|> >>>default? ... Where's the cutoff point?
|> >>I don't know where the exact cutoff is, but it is at least after a few
|> >>years, and surely after 40 years.
|> >Why does the notion of default not take into account changes
|> >in population makeup?
|>
|> Specifically, which changes are you talking about? Are you arguing
|> that the motto is interpreted as offensive by a larger portion of the
|> population now than 40 years ago?
No, do I have to? I'm just commenting that it makes very
little sense to consider everything we inherit to be the default.
Seen any steam trains recently?
jon.
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In article <C6xKnC.285@ulowell.ulowell.edu> cshi@cs.ulowell.edu (Godada Shi) writes:
>In article <1993Apr30.083345.15696@nuscc.nus.sg> eng10511@nusunix1.nus.sg (RAM VIKASH TIWARY) writes:
>>
>>Now that all the parties are back to the negotiating table, the stakes
>>as I see is are indeed high and the future stability of the region and
>>perhaps the world is in the balance.
>>
>> While Israel continues to refuse to talk to the PLO, labelling
>>it a "terrorist organisation", the window of opportunity for peace is
>>narrowing by the day. If the present talks are allowed to deadlock
>>without agreement for a long term and lasting peace that taken into
>>account the interest of all involved, the chances of peace will indeed
>>receed. The PLO, by its decision to rejoin the talks, has staked its
>>reputation on the success of the talks. The longer the talks continue,
>>and they started 1 and half years ago, without any tangible progress,
>>the further will the PLO support in the territories erode.
>>
>>If a land for peace agreement can be reached, and real soon, the chances
>>of a comprehensive peace treaty is good. The Arabs, once and for all,
>>recognise Israel's right to exist inside secure borders, and Isreal
>>would in turn recognise the legitimate right of the Palestinians to self
>>deternimation and statehood. With peace guarantee by air tight
>>treaties, the region can then hope to dwell on the economic and social
>>well being of its population, rather than prepare for the next war.
>>
>>Ram Vikash Tiwary
>
As we see right now, the position of influence enjoyed by parties favoring
the negotiation process is tenuous at best. The local "elections" in Hebron
that the PLO was expected to win (perhaps adding a bit to its flagging
position of "legitimacy" in the eyes of Palestinians and the Middle East)
have been disrupted by Hamas actions overtly directed towards
undermining those (and all West Bank) elections. The present ruling Israeli
Labor coalition seems to be one rather thin political ice. The Palestinian
delegation has been reduced from 14 to three to protest Israel "lack of
seriousness" in the talks and refusal to reverse all the deportations
immediately.
Hopefully, however, each of the parties will begin to learn that just
the fact that negotiations are taking place *does not mean* they are giving
anything away to "the other side" (which was/is the favorite argument of
the "rejectionists"). Let's hope that discusion and inevitable disagreement
on major issues leads at the same time to some agreement on smaller
"interim" ("phase", whatever term we prefer) steps to be taken.
--
Tim Clock Ph.D./Graduate student
UCI tel#: 714,8565361 Department of Politics and Society
fax#: 714,8568441 University of California - Irvine
Home tel#: 714,8563446 Irvine, CA 92717
| 17talk.politics.mideast |
I am looking for software that reads a plot in PCX or other format and
converts it into x,y coordinate.
| 1comp.graphics |
In article <1993Apr3.110048.4636@hemlock.cray.com> kilian@cray.com (Alan Kilian) writes:
>> jeh@cmkrnl.com
>
>This is almost exactly the reason I keep only the latest databook around.
>Too many times last years books turn into three years ago and the data
>in them doesn't match the current production parts.
>TANSTAAFL,
> -Alan Kilian
BUT... If you are in the habit of trying to repair old and obsolete
machines, the old data books are a goldmine of information you can
not get anywhere else. If you are trying to find a modern replacement
for an obsolete part, the original specs really come in handy. Design
out of the new books but save the old ones (or donate them to a ham).
If anybody in Phoenix disagrees, I'll drive over and help them 'get rid'
of all their old data books.
John
(450 data books and growing)
| 12sci.electronics |
In article <1993Apr23.113132.690@vms.huji.ac.il> hechel@vms.huji.ac.il writes:
> does anybody know if this WC is the qualification tournement for
>the olympic games '94 in Lillehammer or are some teams already
>qualified for them.
>hopp schwiiz
> daniel
The top 11 teams of this tournament will play in the Olympics next year.
The last team of this tournament, top two of pool B (Great Britain and
Poland) and the winner of pool C (Latvia) will play for the last Olympic
spot next fall.
However, if next year's hosts Norway were to finish 12th (which would be
no surprise), then it's the 11th team of pool A that will have to play in
the qualification tournament.
Marko Tervio
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
mls@panix.com (Michael Siemon) writes:
>In <May.7.01.08.16.1993.14381@athos.rutgers.edu>
>whitsebd@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu (Bryan Whitsell) writes:
>
>>Any one who thinks that Homosexuality and Christianity are compatible should
>check
>>out:
>> Romans 1:27
>> I Corinthians 6:9
>> I Timothy 1:10
>> Jude 1:7
>> II Peter 2:6-9
>> Gen. 19
>> Lev 18:22
>>(to name a few of the verses that pertain to homosexuality)
>
>Homosexual Christians have indeed "checked out" these verses. Some of
>them are used against us only through incredibly perverse interpretations.
>Others simply do not address the issues.
I can see that some of the above verses do not clearly address the issues,
however, a couple of them seem as though they do not require "incredibly
perverse interpretations" in order to be seen as condemning homosexuality.
"... Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolators, nor adulterers,
nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards,
nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God. And such were
some of you..." I Cor. 6:9-11.
Would someone care to comment on the fact that the above seems to say
fornicators will not inherit the kingdom of God? How does this apply
to homosexuals? I understand "fornication" to be sex outside of
marriage. Is this an accurate definition? Is there any such thing as
same-sex marriage in the Bible? My understanding has always been that
the New Testament blesses sexual intercourse only between a husband
and his wife. I am, however, willing to listen to Scriptural evidence
to the contrary.
"You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an
abomination. Also you shall not have intercourse with any animal to
be defiled with it, nor shall any woman stand before an animal to mate
with it; it is a perversion." Lev. 18:22-23.
I notice that the verse forbidding bestiality immediately follows the
verse prohibiting what appears to be homosexual intercourse. I know
of no New Testament passages that clearly condemn, or even mention,
intercourse with animals. Do those who argue for the legitimacy of
homosexual intercourse believe that the Bible condemns bestiality as a
perversion, and if so, why? That is, what verses would you cite to
prove that bestiality was perverted and sinful? Could the verses you
cite be refuted by interpreting them differently? Can one be a
Christian zoophile?
By the way, I myself am subject to sexual desires that I did not
choose to have and that many people would regard as perverted and
sinful, so please understand that I am not asking these questions out
of an antipathy towards my fellow "people of alternative
orientations". I do believe, however, that one should read the Bible
with an attitude of "what is the Bible trying to say" and not "what do
I WANT the Bible to say." I choose not to give in to my "perverted"
sexual desires because I believe the Bible tries to tell me, whether I
like it or not, that such things are sin. It is frustrating at times,
and I have had days where it really got me down, but I don't blame God
for this, I blame the sin itself.
- Mark
[There's some ambiguity about the meaning of the words in the passage
you quote. Both liberal and conservative sources seem to agree that
"homosexual" is not the general term for homosexuals, but is likely to
have a meaning like homosexual prostitute. That doesn't meant that I
think all the Biblical evidence vanishes, but the nature of the
evidence is such that you can't just quote one verse and solve things.
I think your argument from fornication is circular. Why is
homosexuality wrong? Because it's fornication. Why is it
fornication? Because they're not married. Why aren't they married?
Because the church refuses to do a marriage ceremony. Why does the
church refuse to do a marriage ceremony? Because homosexuality is
wrong. In order to break the circle there's got to be some other
reason to think homosexuality is wrong.
--clh]
| 15soc.religion.christian |
I'm writing an application running under X (using Motif), and I need to do
some stuff when the application quits. Now, when I shut down my X Windows
session, it doesn't seem to send a SIGTERM (or whatever) signal to my
application (I'm trapping various signals like that). Therefore, I thought
I could use an X signal to check for my top level window being destroyed.
However I seem to get DestroyNotify events whenever I move windows. Is
there any way for me to check that the window is actually being destroyed
(some field to check or some combination of events?).
Replies by e-mail please and I will summarise.
Thanks for any help,
Ian
--
// //
// ian@compsci.liverpool.ac.uk //
// //
| 5comp.windows.x |
In article <C5uD1u.3oy@apollo.hp.com> goykhman@apollo.hp.com (Red Herring) writes:
>In article <1993Apr20.210651.5687@gn.ecn.purdue.edu> mechalas@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (John P. Mechalas) writes:
>>>Although I'm an atheist, the events in Waco have really sickened me. It's
>>>truely a sad day for religious freedom in this country. The Branch
>>>Dividians may have been nutty (my general opinion of all religious people),
>>>but tax evasion and illegal possesion of firearms are certainly not grounds
>>>for destroying a people.
>>
>>Excuse me? WHO destroyed the BD's? Last I knew, they burned themselves...
>
> Where did you get this information? The FBI stated they were not
> aware of any mass suicide plans, ditto Koresh's attorneys who appeared
> on Larry King's Live yesterday, and the survivors claim the fire was started
> from the outside...
So what if the FBI wasn't aware of suicide plans? This may not even be an
]accurate statement, anyway, since the last report of listening devices used
in the compound may reveal new information. We'll have to wait.
And what did you expect Koresh's attorneys to say? Their credibility
is shot anyway, since they *origianlly* said that Koresh was going to surrender
after the Passover. We saw how accurate that was.
And the survivors claim the fire was started from the outside. Outside
meaning outside the compound? Yes, the FBI reported seeing two people
(according to CNN reports) using torches to set the compound on fire. They
were outside.
Either way, I have evidence to support the theory that the BD's burned
themselves. You made a serious implication that the FBI was responsible
for the fire and the "destruction of the people". All you have done is
put doubt on who started the fire without providing any evidence to back
up your claim that the FBI was responsible.
--
John Mechalas "I'm not an actor, but
mechalas@gn.ecn.purdue.edu I play one on TV."
Aero Engineering, Purdue University #include disclaimer.h
| 19talk.religion.misc |
In article KKq@acsu.buffalo.edu, v128r82w@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Ralph L d'Ambrosio) writes:
>In article <1993Apr14.015415.10176@mprgate.mpr.ca>, tasallot@galaxy.mpr.ca (Mathew Tasalloti) writes...
>>
>>If the Penguins get out of the Patrick, they will win the
>>cup. However, their hardest task is to get out of that division.
>>I'm sure that Washington will most definitly throw a rench into the
>>Penguin plans. I'm a Canucks fan (not that I think much of their
>>chances this year), but it seems to me like Washington is the ONLY
>>team that can stop the Penguins from winning their next Stanley Cup.
>
>I was under the impression that the Penguins has had the Caps number for
>most of the season.
>
>>
>>
>>
>>=============================================******>>
>>
>> Mathew Tasalloti
>> MPR Teltech Ltd.
>> Vancouver, BC, Canada
>>
>> <<******==================================================
>********************************************************************************
>Of course no one asked me, I always interject my opinions on matters I have no
>concern over.
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Go Islanders, Playoffs here we come
>Go Jets for '93
>********************************************************************************
And last year the Capitals had the Pens number up until about game 3 of the playoffs.
John Horstmann
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
In article <C4w5pv.JxD@darkside.osrhe.uoknor.edu> bil@okcforum.osrhe.edu (Bill Conner) writes:
>There are a couple of things about your post and others in this thread
>that are a little confusing. An atheist is one for whom all things can
>be understood as processes of nature - exclusively. There is no need
>for any recourse to Divnity to describe or explain anything. There is
>no purpose or direction for any event beyond those required by
>physics, chemistry, biology, etc.; everything is random, nothing is
>determnined.
This posts contains too many fallacies to respond too.
1) The abolishment of divinity requires the elimination of
freewill.
You have not shown this. You have not even attempted to. However,
the existance of an Omniscience being does eliminate freewill in mortals.*
* Posted over five months ago. No one has been able to refute it,
nor give any reasonable reasons against it.
--
"Satan and the Angels do not have freewill.
They do what god tells them to do. "
S.N. Mozumder (snm6394@ultb.isc.rit.edu)
| 0alt.atheism |
In article <C4t3K3.498@cck.coventry.ac.uk> enf021@cck.coventry.ac.uk (Achurist) writes:
|
|I believe the reason is that the lung diaphram gets too tired to pump
|the liquid in and out and simply stops breathing after 2-3 minutes.
|So if your in the vehicle ready to go they better not put you on
|hold, or else!! That's about it. Remember a liquid is several more times
|as dense as a gas by its very nature. ~10 I think, depending on the gas
|and liquid comparision of course!
Could you use some sort of mechanical chest compression as an aid.
Sorta like the portable Iron Lung? Put some sort of flex tubing
around the 'aquanauts' chest. Cyclically compress it and it will
push enough on the chest wall to support breathing?????
You'd have to trust your breather, but in space, you have to trust
your suit anyway.
pat
| 14sci.space |
> I would appreciate any thoughts on what makes a planet habitable for
> Humans. I am making asumptions that life and a similar atmosphere
> evolve given a range of physical aspects of the planet. The question
> is what physical aspects simply disallow earth like conditions.
This is a good question. There are major blind spots in our understanding
of what makes the earth habitable. For example, why does the earth's
atmosphere have the concentration of oxygen it does? The naive
answer is "photosynthesis", but this is clearly incomplete. Photosynthesis
by itself can't make the atmosphere oxygenated, as the oxygen produced
is consumed when the plants decay or are eaten. What is needed
is photosynthesis plus some mechanism to sequester some fraction of
the resulting reduced material.
On earth, this mechanism is burial in seafloor sediments of organic
matter, mostly from oceanic sources. However, this burial requires
continental sediments (in the deep ocean, the burial rate is so slow
that most material is consumed before it can be sequestered).
This suggests that a planet without large oceans, or a planet without
continents undergoing weathering, will have a hard time accumulating
an oxygen atmosphere. In particular, an all-ocean planet may have a
hard time supporting an oxygen atmosphere.
There is also the problem of why the oxygen in the earth's atmosphere
has been relatively stable over geological time, for a period at least
2 orders of magnitude longer than the decay time of atmospheric O2 to
weathering in the absence of replenishment. No convincing feedback
mechanism has been identified. Perhaps the reason is the weak
anthropic principle: if during the last 500 MYr or so, the oxygen
level had dropped too low, we wouldn't be here to be wondering about
it.
Paul F. Dietz
dietz@cs.rochester.edu
| 14sci.space |
nemo@aguirre.dia.fi.upm.es (Francisco J. Ballesteros) writes:
>> The problem occurs during the initial "make World". When
>> it gets up to compiling the standard X clients, it can't seem to find
>> some of the libraries. Right now we highly suspect the program "ld"
>> which was updated for 4_1_3.
>>
> Yip, we had the same problem; the only fix we found was to link static
>some of the clients, ( btw, we used cc). :-(.
Or use a SunOS 4.1.1 ld.
\Bernhard.
| 5comp.windows.x |
Anybody seen mouse cursor distortion running the Diamond 1024x768x256 driver?
Sorry, don't know the version of the driver (no indication in the menus) but it's a recently
delivered Gateway system. Am going to try the latest drivers from Diamond BBS but wondered
if anyone else had seen this.
post or email
--Don Lindbergh
dabl2@lhc.nlm.nih.gov
| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
In article <0fq0VIC00WB8RQ019D@andrew.cmu.edu> ch3g+@andrew.cmu.edu (Chad Nicholas Hunter) writes:
>I live in Pittsburgh (yes i'm a pens fan) where hockey gets a lot
>of coverage. i can only imagine how a caps fan residing in Texas
>must feel.
Or a Caps fan residing in Atlanta, where they DONT EVEN TELL
THE F&@(*@CKING PLAYOFF SCORES ON THE NEWS!!!!!
--
GO SKINS! ||"Now for the next question... Does emotional music have quite
GO BRAVES! || an effect on you?" - Mike Patton, Faith No More
GO HORNETS! ||
GO CAPITALS! ||Mike Friedman (Hrivnak fan!) Internet: gtd597a@prism.gatech.edu
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
joe13+@pitt.edu (Joseph B Stiehm) writes:
>>the way he does, does not belong in the NHL. There have been cheap shot artists
>>through the history of the game, but a lot of them have been talanted players.
>>Bobby Clarke, Kenny Linsemen, Pie McKenzie, Chris Chelios etc.. but nobody has been
>>out right as dirty a cheapshot coward as Ulf. Violence in hockey has got to be curbed
>>and players like (Should have been a Women) Samuelson don't belong. When players
>>like Ulf, who's main purpose is to injure the better players in the league is allowed
>>to continue, and the league won't stop it, the players should. A Christian Pro 1000
>>aluminum stick directed at his ugly head should do the trick nicely. If the Bruins get
>>a chance to meet Pittsburgh in the near future, you can bet Neely will have his day.
>>The sight of watching Ulf turtle up like the coward he is, is worth almost as much as a
>>Stanely Cup. This wimp of a player almost ruined the career of one the best right wingers
>>in the game. If you are to remove Ulf Samuelson from the lineup, the Penguins would not
>>even notice he's gone. He's an eyesore on the game of hockey.
>>
>>
>>Rich
>Rich, pull your head out of your ass.
>Joseph Stiehm
As if an aluminum stick being taken to Ulf's head is gonna solve the problem
with violence in the sport of hockey. How the hell can you say the guy is
a goon and justify it, with your back-assward mentality? Saying that hurting
a player will solve anyone's problems is asinine. New rules and a new
referee system need to be instituted. Right now, too many of the real goons
get away with too much, because the ref is watching the play (or supposed to be:I've seen Koharski and Van Hellemond, to name a few, with their heads up their asses on a few calls) rather than keeping an eye on the goofballs behind the
play. Even if the linesmen were able to call all penalties, it would be an
improvement.
********************************************************************************Tim Drozinski
drozinst@db.erau.edu
"Chew electric death, snarling cur!" Spaceman Spiff
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
In article <carlp.735709605@frigg> carlp@frigg.isc-br.com (Carl Paukstis) writes:
>bgardner@pebbles.es.com (Blaine Gardner) writes:
>>Yep, it works like a charm. I had the same problem after about 7-8 years
>>of constant use, and I was thinking of seeing how much Eclipse would
>>want to install a new zipper. But someone (I think it was Chuck Karish)
>>suggested I try that trick. It took a couple of tries to get the right
>>amount of squish, but it's been fine for about 3 years since I squished
>>it. It should work for any of the nylon-coil type zippers.
>
>OTOH-
>I tried this on my HG Concord jacket Thursday night. Really, I just
>made a tiny-adjustment type of squeeze. Really.
Is (was? :-( ) your HG zipper the nylon-coil type or the kind with
molded plastic teeth? I've only tried it on the coiled nylon type, and
it doesn't take much squish to fix the problem. I found I was overdoing
it (no broken parts, but the zipper was too hard to pull) so after
spreading the zipper pull jaws again, I tried with Vice-Grips. No, not
the usual Grip Of Death technique, I adjusted the closed Vice-Grips so
they were snug on the zipper jaws, then released them and tightened the
adjusting screw a bit. A couple of iterations and I had just the right
amount of Zipper Squish (TM).
>Result: I now know that noplace in Spokane will even _consider_ trying
>to repair a broken zipper-closer-thingy, which must be a $0.30 part
>which needs a $20 tool to install.
I've had two zipper pulls fail on my Aerostich suit (actually on the
Accessory Ellipse), and they sent me a few replacement pulls free of
charge. I don't know what brand of zippers HG uses, but parts ARE
available for YKK's plastic zippers. Replacement was pretty simple, just
break and remove the plastic knob at the top of the zipper that keeps
the pull from coming off the top end. Slide on the new zipper pull. Then
crimp on (Vice-Grips again!) a replacement zipper stop.
You might try fabric stores & such and see if they sell replacement
parts.
Oh, for what it's worth, the coil-type zippers on the Eclipse tankbag
are also YKK.
--
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland
bgardner@dsd.es.com
| 8rec.motorcycles |
In article <9649@kielo.uta.fi>, csfraw@vehka.cs.uta.fi (Francis Akoto) writes:
> I would like to know Clintons background. Is he Anglo-saxon, Irish, Italian
> hispanic etc.
He's 1/2 liar, 1/2 cheat and 1/2 demagogue.
Brett
________________________________________________________________________________
"There's nothing so passionate as a vested interest disguised as an
intellectual conviction." Sean O'Casey in _The White Plague_ by Frank Herbert.
| 18talk.politics.misc |
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