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either or. um he would recognize the pizza. and the banana. [playing in background] xxx the cheese. [playing in background] the cookies. not the jalapeno peppers haha. [playing in background] um the bread. yeah xxx recognize those. the green beans. mhm he has xxx food toys that he plays with at home? mhm. and the basket. sometimes kids have the exact sets. yeah it's funny it's not the exact it's like " oh this is kind of weird I guess this is tuna. " it feels ah... don't touch. it feels a little weird. I don't know what this blob is. peanut butter? they usually say on the bottom so... oh the peanut butter xxx. mhm he did. here's a few animals. you know I noticed he's really into shoes. yes he's into shoes. when I say it's time to go bye byes xxx he usually goes to get his shoes.
[playing with child in background] is there anything that he usually does when he's playing that we didn't really see today? [child and experiment playing in background] I don't think so. I mean he did you know his eye stimming whatever it's called. [child and experiment playing in background] oh you didn't see him with the cars. xxx he plays with cars a lot. and he mostly pushes them behind. he's not so good at pushing forward. he pushes things behind. you try. [second clinician to child in background.] oh. mhm. [explaining about cars] oh okay gotcha. so it's not a vocabulary expanding experience usually. mhm right. yeah yeah he would definitely play with the cars at home that's one of his top choice. and the balls. [clinician and child in background] [instructing other clinician] [clinician and child in background] go! so is there anything else that you wanted to tell me about his play? um just that well it has really improved over the past couple months. since OT has been doing sensory integration. and the joint compressions. I don't know if you're familiar with those.
so that xxx has really helped 'cause he was really stuck in his play. he would just push cars back and forth. and things behind him. and he wasn't really interactive with the toys. like he wasn't opening the doors or putting people in. he's getting better at that now. oh you popped them all! well putting in and dumping out that seems to be something that he's really interested in. mhm and the stacking. he did well on that with you know the original assessment. po'! bubb'e. so we're pleased that he has more of a variety of play now. repertoire yeah. now did you say that he had a speech therapist yet? yes yeah. she's coming out more now. she's going over the Hanen Hanen program. I wasn't sure how to spell it. h a n e n. are you familiar with that? no. the boo' that's called " it takes two to talk. " yes. mhm. and how follow their lead. with the play. and their sounds. [clinician and child in background]
now he's um and often kids are xxx specialist with shh. mhm. yeah he likes that shh. and words that's often true that they will learn words that have the phonemes that they can do. mhm. and he really enjoys the shh. so he does shh sheep. yeah that's right and fish. and fish. and there's another one that starts with that. shh not ship. but you might try to give him more of those. that would be the easy way. and if there are other... does he do duck? just a little bit. he's just starting that one duck [background noise]. xxx have a sound that he has in another word it doesn't hurt to help him... okay. mhm. it naturally happens that way. yeah and he's good with the phoneme the b. b! you know yeah the baby. birdie. yeah bus. yeah and he says bah. ball balloon. = = = childes/CHILDES_NA/NewmanRatner/Interviews/24/6785KS.cha = = =
um so I'm just gonna ask you a couple questions about tonight and Devon will play with Kalin a little bit. okay. [vocalizes]. you're gonna go play with Devon okay? okay so um do you wanna start telling me what he was interested in today. what he started playing with first? first he started playing with this uh what would you call that? it's kind' cool. it's not really a puzzle but... yeah it's like a magnetic... type thing. yeah. yeah it was the animal pieces he was drawn to first. and then um he went to the babies for some reason. he doesn't even have any of those at home. and um and then to the food. I kinda hadta ask him what that was for him to go over there. I don't think he likes the animals xxx. yeah so with the puzzle type thing um what was he doing with that. um it was more of him playing with the pieces. [child is vocalizing throughout interview. ] and when I pulled the fly he liked the water on him. you take the cupcake to Devon. do you want some water? alright so um so the animals does he play with those at home at all? um a lot of books have animals in 'em. and he's always pointing 'em out and uh making sounds. uh does he have any favorite animals? not that I know. no?
because I'm at home with him during the day so I mostly try to do like letters and colors and his dad reads the books to him at night when he gets home from work. right. and so they do the animals and stuff. yeah. okay. uh um you did the water one um did you go through any other scenes. um yeah the farm. mhm. and then the water one. okay. did he like one better than the other or were they all pretty...? um I think he got more into that one because I was singin' the song with the animals. mhm. this one he was just like water. yeah. um and any of the animals do you think any new to him that he may have never seen before? um yeah the when we had the kangaroo. mhm. probably this and that ostrich bird. yeah those are not very common. exactly. yeah there are. okay and he played with the babies a little bit you said. mhm. what was he doing with them? um oh my earring. oh. it fell. um well he was undressing that one. yeah.
but the other one he just held it up to say baby pretty much. mhm. but he doesn't have those at home? no. but there's a lot of um... hi. hi. morning it's afternoon. it's evening. um no babies at home but there's babies in the family. [child and experimenter are playing in the background. ] okay. [vocalizes]. stop throwing. go with the bubbles. look bubbles. now you don't want the bubbles. [child continues to be vocal in the background of the interview.] okay and um so he did play with the kitchen a little bit right? mhm. what was he doing with that? um puttin' things in the bowl stirrin' it up. mhm. tryin' to eat the cupcake. um he was interested by I guess the sound this one the stove was makin' the little timer. uh huh. um but that's about it... tryin' to eat stuff here and there. yeah. mhm.
does he play with food at home at all? no. no so that's a new thing to him. mhm. did he have any um favorite foods he was gravitating towards or...? no. it was about all equal. yeah and are any of those foods familiar to him? cupcakes pizza corn bananas. yeah. mhm. um and any brand new foods he may not have seen before or maybe less familiar with? this thing. it was like a lamb chop or something. yeah I think so. 'cause it's too small to be a pork chop right? yeah. yeah. [interaction between mother and child.] hm alright so are there any other things he plays with at home that we didn't have here? balls. yeah. his first obsession was balls. yeah. and then cars. mhm. cars now but he likes sports. yeah. yeah it always seems funny that boys are always you know like balls and cars and we don't have any of those but... I say he shoots baby threes.
we have our couch is like right here he stands here and let's say the hoop is where the camera is and he'll stand and he'll shoot. he'll make it. oh yeah? baby threes. [laughs]. mhm. he's gonna be pretty good I bet. I hope so. I think that if we had balls here they would be all over the room. they would. they would be throwing them because they don't really understand not to throw yet. yeah exactly. um and did you notice anything about his play today that was different from what he normally does? I mean I know he played with the babies a little bit but... um. well in this session? yeah. no. he's kind' all over the place. he doesn't sit and just play with one thing for too long. yeah. and um I guess compared to other play sessions has he been pretty much the same? this one has been better because last time we can I don't think he I don't think he was as mobile. [vocalizes]. mhm. well last time I was giving him stuff like here Kalin look at this. he was able to get up and see what he wanted to do and didn't wanna do. right. hey bud how ya doing? say good Shaun.
alright um anything else you noticed today that you wanna bring up or any concerns? um no. alright well he did a great job today I mean it's late he didn't have a nap today but um he did a really great job today. he stuck on the tasks after going on and on. we got through everything which we don't always do so that's good. right. so I have two consent forms I'm gonna have you sign. alright. um and I'll explain them a little bit. watch your foot. I'm going to give you an envelope to send this other form. = = = childes/CHILDES_NA/NewmanRatner/Interviews/24/5878SC.cha = = = play with more toys. I want crackers! how about we can have some more crackers when we're all done playing 'kay? is that good? yeah I think we can um... I have no concept of time. I want crackers! I want crackers. so we can um xxx interview with you um... okay. get some more crackers and you can play with Devon and um I'm gonna talk to our other friend okay? do you want me to sit here? you needta move out of his way or anything like that? crackers. ooh boy what are these? she's gonna show you how this works. she's gonna show you.
hm change the picture. [gasp] look at this. what kind of animals live there? can you find the animals? sorry! alright so um just kinda tell me what he started playing with today. okay so... he noticed the dolls first I think that's pretty novel. we have one that's like buried somewhere 'cause they're relatively uninterested in it. so he knows the dolls first but we definitely food is a big thing probably 'cause he's a little bit hungry but every time we've come in the food is interesting we don't have any... I shouldn't say we don't have any we have very little play food. so. okay so what was he interested I guess specifically. interesting he definitely recognized some of his favorite foods. and then he picked a couple novel foods like cheese is his favorite. right we hafta like ration the cheese [laughs]. um. and then like novel things like... and I think he was very interested in the really lifelike textured foods. the like rubbery foods were very interesting. what else. they're in the juice. drinking is a fun thing. he can but he doesn't get juice in a cup very often 'cause he's a scientist and everything hasta go into the juice and it hasta be poured and then... it's very messy experience. [laughs] it's all about texture. right. um so were there any of the foods that he had never seen before? beets definitely and I don't think he recognized the tuna. which is interesting he's really interested like he could tell it was probably meat but...
he's never really seen it like that before. and yeah the beets were interesting to him. for whatever reason I'm trying to think I don't think we've ever had beets. my husband doesn't like them. (I')m trying to think if I've ever just had them I don't think he's ever had beets. um anything else he'd never really had? I'm tryin' to think. I know he's had pickles. I don't know if he'd recognize them. the mashed potatoes he's had mashed potatoes but it's been a while. potatoes are our late fall early winter food. and you said he eats some of these foods? not like the play food but in real life... yes. and um any specific ones that he... the green beans and the cheese bread and sometimes pizza not very often. we don't have it very often. um he didn't play with a lot of the other ones that he eats on a regular basis. the icecream cone. and the peach. we have regularly. and does he like to pretend to cook and those kinds of things is that something he does at all? yes we have a little toy kitchen and he kinda rotates through it. like he's interested in it for a whole day and then he won't be interested in it for multiple days right? um he's becoming more interested in it lately like the last few weeks. probably uh before it was more like a push the buttons make the noises and things like that and he's starting to do more mimickery now like I'm drinking I'm pouring that sort of thing. he was making a what was it that you were making? an open faced sandwich. right. a tuna melt.
[laughs]. sounded pretty good. yeah. except for the things that were a little uh... pizza and the tuna I don't know if I can go for that. right. um so uh what else besides the food was he interested in? uh he was interested in the dolls. um he was tryin' to figure out what to do with them like how to even play with them I'm like what do you wanna do with the dolls and he's like I dunno. so you said he doesn't really play with them at home? not very much. yeah. like um our animal and people play has been mostly like figures. and he he's heavily influenced by his older brother. mhm. as far as play goes 'cause he likes they like to play together to a certain extent. they're always together they're not always interacting. um. so and superheroes are a big deal. to the four year old. yeah. so. those become you know valued commodities so we're playing with little figures mostly. little pilots and little whatever else. and heroes. yeah. oh so... so yeah not as often with a doll. with a doll. so was this kind of a new experience with all the you know...
I think definitely with the clothes. like the doll we have doesn't have I should say it doesn't have easily removable clothes so they don't really usually bother with it. mhm. so that was something new he hadn't really done that before. yes. okay. did he seem interested in it at all? I think so. I was kind of wondering to myself you know like how interested is he actually in this 'cause I'm not sure... how much was intrigue and how much was I wanna do something with this. versus what is this and why is she doing this. why is she wearing a skirt over her pants. [laughs]. [laughs]. um was there anything else he was interested in today? I don't know I pointed out a couple other things and he they were just not interesting as this so. yeah. yeah he definitely I know was interested in the food and that was a key thing to him. um. are some of these other toys things he has at home? no we don't really have very many animals. at home. and he is becoming more interested in animals but not a ton. mhm. tryin' to think. this heavy. yeah. [laughs]. oh. and um I guess is there anything at home that he plays with that he didn't have here?
yes. definitely. okay so what? cars trains and trucks. the majority of his play. cars trains and trucks. that seems to be a common I mean xxx... for boys yeah. we don't have any cars trains or trucks. there's nothing with wheels in here. I know [laughs]. airplanes too. we have a lot of airplanes. which is interesting 'cause I watch his imaginative play developing right now. you know where um you hear them making conversations and things like that in and day to day activities. but they're all cars. like talking to each other. and cars hanging out together right so they're like taking people roles and that's a very easy natural transition for him. yeah. it's kinda funny we have little people but he'll grab the cars instead. yeah I mean it's he's doing it. we hafta personify them yeah. yeah. was there anything you noticed today that was different from um previous play sessions? definitely like the dolls he hasn't been interested in. the last few play sessions. it's been like a what's that that's a doll pick it up put it down and then he's done but today he actually wanted to mess around with 'em a little bit. but he's been very intrigued by the food. all the times we've come in. yeah [chuckles].
like it's hard xxx last time I tried to get him to look at some of the animals and things and just... I wanna eat food. play food. right. um and did you um notice anything with his play today with maybe different from what he does at home you feel like? I know the toys are a little different but... tryin' to think. I mean it's definitely it's always different when it comes to these play sessions because there's not another child. there and so that is definitely a different aspect like my one-on-one play time with him really limited. um. it's usually interrupted. like it's frequently interrupted right? that's different like that we can keep a train of thought and work on things. uh play through things. see them all the way through like we could have a whole conversation about the food. mhm right. so did you notice anything else today that you wanted to bring up anything you saw or... I don't think so. well I know he had um... it was a little rough at the beginning but. = = = childes/CHILDES_NA/NewmanRatner/Interviews/24/5777FC.cha = = = yeah. [laughs]. at that point yeah. it's like we had three of them. yeah. yeah. so xxx. yeah.
awhile. xxx which is really great. and I wanna talk to you about um what he played here and what he likes to play at home. yeah. I think you guys first started with animals. yes. and he was really proud of the ones he knew. um and didn't know all of them. but I didn't wanna totally correct him. does he have xxx animals? yes. um yeah I mean I think of stuffed animals but he has a few figures like that too. um but his favorite stuffed animals are dog and bears. he loves bears. and um. I'm trying to think what else. I'm not too sure right now. were there any animals were xxx? any of your favorite anima... um yeah a lot of the wild animals. yeah the ostrich the emu. um yeah the... I don't know if he's seen panda bear figurines before that was kinda fun. um so he... the river otter. he didn't seem to know that one. um and yeah a lot of them we've seen in books or heard their names or pointed to them maybe but it was fun to have them. there's tons of animals that you see in real life. yeah well we've been to the zoo a couple of times. and then less than a month ago so for Thanksgiving we went out to Arkansas and it was more rural there with my husband's family. and he saw a hawk and we have seen deer for real so I know baby deer.
um and we saw racoons. um squirrels of course we've seen regular. um oh and we've been to the county fair a lot to see the regular farm animals. oh can Mommy have some green beans? thank you. how nice! oh okay. thank you. [above five lines are IDS.] so yeah we saw a lot of farm animals at the county fair. oh that's nice. yeah. and then he really was also interested in the xxx. yes. um he helps us cook at home. we it gotta I had either you can cook or play with Francis. um so it's more easy to combine them into just be careful around the stove and um that kind of thing and he'll grab his chair to stand on at the counter and he mixes and he pours and he even pours um the hot water for his oatmeal for breakfast. things like that. so yeah he likes to cook. we just got a little bit of play food at home. he doesn't have much. so this was really fun to see him. is any of the play food similar to what we have here? do you have any of the same items or...? um we have more finished play food I guess. like a cake that gets cut up. I know at daycare he likes to play in the kitchen. I'm sure they have different ingredients and stuff there so. are foods here which are ones that he eats? pretty much all of it.
except for the one that looked like vomit. I couldn't tell what that was sposta be. [laughs]. tuna! it's tuna. oh it's tuna! of course. well he does eat fish. um he's had icecream he had it the other day. and the caramel topping I guess maybe we've had it but it's not something we would regularly do. um he's a great eater. so the green beans he eats by himself. regular potatoes beets I'm sure he had in the spring or something when it was beet season. um so. and does he use um cutlery at the table? yes he does. um we call it Francis sized forks and knife and spoon. um and he doesn't hafta he can use his fingers. um sometimes he prefers to do that. and then sometimes we supervise of course a little toothpick. to stab bites of vegetables. beets! thank you Francis! Francis I'm hungry too. oh. can you give your friend Lisa something nice to eat? maybe she would like some pizza. pizza. yes. [above nine lines are IDS.]
okay um so was there anything in here that you tried to get him to play with that he just wasn't interested in? well maybe the habitat for the animal thing I tried to um say oh look you can play with the animals on here. but other than that I kind of had a feeling he'd go for the cooking? maybe I directed that a little bit? I don't know. um but I just kinda let him do his own thing. and then is there anything that he plays at home that we really didn't see here? tried to. um. oh it is ready. oh thank you. careful it might be hot! careful. [above four lines are IDS.] um he does play with more cars and trucks and buses and trains and stuff than we saw here. but he talked about those a lot so. yeah. I think we get a lot of vroom. vroom? oh yeah. and then not as many words. right. so for us those are not ideal. sure. sure. um but yeah I mean we played with the blocks before and he does a lot of block building and stuff so. I'm trying to think what else. I think that's about it. do you have any questions about xxx? um was it only language based or was some of it intelligence i q stuff too?
um well that's a trickier question. okay. we're doing language. right. and then we're also doing a fine motor and um kind of visual acuity. right. okay. same and different. right. and um those are both portions of a big group of test called the Mullin which when given as a big whole they use as a stand in for i q test. but we didn't do the whole thing. okay. we just do those little bits. more animals? there's some more in the other boxes. you can look. are there some more in this box? who's in there? alright! [above six lines are IDS.] that's good I was afraid he was getting sad for a second. um and those are to um remember in his little baby tests he looked at things on the screen where there were little blocks that move around and shapes? right. and so this is kind of the kids... no 'cause I was blindfolded. oh that's true I'm so sorry. well they should've actually shown you. no just kidding they told us about it. yeah. they told us about it.
yeah. but um this is a kind of older kid version of that and the fine motor they see... octopus! [IDS.] expressive variant of that. okay. like the way that we did receptive vocabulary where you find something and we did expressive where you tell me what it is. yeah. um there's the visual acuity um that's kind of receptive you saw the difference. right. and the fine motor is a kind of more active correlate to that. so we're doing those because they correlate to that. right. and then he also did the listening tasks. thank you. oh Francis. can you put this back in the sink please? I'm finished. thank you. I'm finished. oh we could clean it up. thank you. yeah. [above nine lines are IDS. ] and that's more what the language part scores correspond to. in particular the um pretend penguin names. yeah. where we mix up syllables and see. yeah that reminded me of one of the tests or whatever. so those things are sposta go together.
right. and then um we're absolutely at the end xxx. great. okay. and um. excellent. and I hafta send in those forms to you I'm really sorry. yes we want them. and we're really excited. yeah. um. um we're proud. I think we are finished. [IDS.] it's fun to see how you know much you go through with language. yeah. and he's just been a delight. thanks. I have two more permission slips to ask you for actually. okay. [more audio with clinician explaining the goal of the study.] = = = childes/CHILDES_NA/NewmanRatner/Interviews/24/4929MM.cha = = = but I do wanna ask you some quick questions... okay. about her playing. what of these toys does she have at home? lots of babydolls. she's xxx pretty obsessed with babydolls in general. um dressing them doing everything with them every day.
um food we have some food but my husband cooks a lot so she's usually in the kitchen with him cooking. so I thinks she likes that whole cooking part of it um... we don't have any of these at home but she did kind of like the animals. we don't really have a lot of little animals. kinda thing... but she goes to daycare during the week so I'm sure they have some of those things also at daycare. yeah that makes sense. so I'm sure they have a lot of the same kinda similar similar stuff... I thought the book she was gonna grab... 'cause is usually her favorite book at home to read. ah. she likes the kitty cats in that book. oh yeah. and the mouse? mhm. she likes to find what page has the two kitty cats and the mouse on it. but um she's usually pretty content with playing the same thing for a pretty long attention span wise. she's focused. yeah I mean she can do the same usually activity for a pretty long time [laughs]. she seems pretty interested in um the dolls dressing? dressing babies and shoes and... other than talking a lot about babies lately. oh I would guess. so... so that might play a part on it but... and the do her own dolls have clothes? yeah they all have clothes and she likes to change their diapers... and put their clothes on... and she knew this huh? she has one of those...
well one for her not a baby size one but... she likes to play dressup at home. that's one. dresses and tutus. cool. that is neat. but yeah babydolls I'd say is probably her favorite activity. she recognized this too right away huh? the purse. oh that she usually take my purses and she'll put 'em on her arm and say byebye. like she's walkin' out. you know I think it's a little... a li'le backpack. yeah. kind of... not very ergonomic. but she usually associates [clears throat] 'iates with going byebye. if she ever sees a bag or a purse. yeah? she thinks she's leaving the house. yeah. does she have any animals or particular favorites of hers? I mean babies are definitely her favorite. she has a couple stuffed animals and stuff but... not as much as I'd say babydolls. is is she like into cows or... um more doggies. oh yeah? a lot of doggies. we have elephant doggie...
which of ours... what did she particularly play with. she had one way over there. and here was the duck. the duck and the pig. ah. and the bears... bears she's... big on bears lately. I think they've been doing some bear talk in school. ah! it's been a bear week this week. yeah. and I noticed too that she knows she knows a lot of things to do. in the kitchen. mhm. yeah I think she does watch a lot like my husband usually puts her up on the counter with him as he cooks kind of shows her. she's she's got techniques too. yeah and he likes to talk her through all the cooking. [laughing] you and Daddy cook? I don't really cook much so... it's a nice um it's a nice play repertoire that she can put it in the pot... mhm. stir it up. yeah... take it out. and then finish it and then go [blowing noises]. oh yeah you blow on it s when it's hot? [IDS] and then...
and then after that eat. mhm. so that ends up you know like long. and complicated. yeah. it's just interesting to see. were there any of these f... don't eat it! [IDS] that was just pretend. just pretend. I don't know if she liked the squishy ones just because of the feeling of 'em... but she really does like a lot of green vegetables. she likes peas and beans. and all that but I don't know if it was just... and cheese... but I don't know if it's squishy or just because she recognized it. ah. and what about the sweet stuff like that? um she doesn't eat too many sweet things to be honest but like the juice... she recognized that as a... like she thought she was getting a cup of juice. yyy options. she thought it might have been real at first but... but even like all the cans at home she'll take 'em out of the pantry and line cans up and stack cans and... she does like playing with cans she and her cousins. especially in my parent's pantry they they line 'em all up in the pantry. oh that's neat. [laughs]. right Megan?
[IDS] what about like what else xxx? what else do you have over here the pizza... tryin' pick out of there. oh don't eat it! [IDS] that's pretend honey. [IDS] ah you like stir. [IDS] was there anything that you tried to get her interested in playing with but she just wasn't gonna go for it. guess I didn't really get too much to this stuff. no I mean most of these we've kind of show to her she kinda takes interest. at first. and then I know she definitely want it at all. yeah. she didn't want that on. not really sure why I guess she just wanted to see everything in there. oh that makes sense. just pretend. [IDS] that's not real cheese. is there anything that she usually plays that we didn't really see today? um we do a lot of puzzles at home. but I know she did some puzzles that one earlier but she does... so she likes puzzles. mhm. she does a lot of puzzles and a lot of... my mom her grandmother has like a lot of flashcards that she likes to match the flashcards. yeah just the little things we useta do one at a time!
yeah. yeah she does a lot of puzzles. she looked ready to though. take it right then. yeah. yeah she's pretty good at puzzles I'd say. yeah and I know I mean at school they do a lot of like song playing and group activities and that kinda stuff. this is true. as far as like lining up and you know sitting at a table and doing different activities together. well she seems very susceptible to big girl at the table position... mhm. I think they must a lot of sitting in chairs and doing table work at school. yeah. she seems to always wanna sit. that yeah. and she'll tell us at home mommy's chair daddy's chair Megan's chair. oh really? tell us where to sit. you need order in your world. yeah. she's very orderly. yeah. yeah she does like to clean up which is nice. sometimes. some things she likes to clean right Megan? [partly IDS] pretty far actually almost done. [discussing forms ] what do you say Megan? [IDS ]
you say please? [IDS] she likes to do things herself but then she does get frustrated and she'll say help a lot she's kind of learned the whole help mommy help. yeah. but I think she tries to do little thing that she does get frustrated [laughs] easily at times. wanna put your shoe... [IDS] she knows exactly how to ask. mhm. this one. good job. [IDS] that's right. [IDS ] sometimes she has that little she's in that stranger anxiety. right now a little bit when when go places. that two year old age. [background noise] [discussing forms] that's why we have a she has a cousin who's three weeks younger. and we always noted my sister and I that he's not very verbal at all. so we always talk wonder it's like boys or girls or if one sex is more verbal than the others. she has a lot of words. vocabulary. = = = childes/CHILDES_NA/NewmanRatner/Interviews/24/5837JK.cha = = = she can play with this stuff. I was gonna ask you a couple more questions about what you guys played with. okay. you wanna play with Devon?
you can show her these all the food. Jordan this is Devon. right here come here this is Devon! that's my friend Devon! say hi Devon. hi Devon! here show Devon all the cupcakes you made and everything. look you think you can make me some juice? I saw you xxx milk it looked really good. this room's a little weird to be in I'm not usually back here for this. right. okay so can you just tell me about what you guys did? sure. we um we started off over here with the puzzle. and she dumped all of the pieces out. and then um we worked a little bit on the habitats. and um and she picked different animals didn't quite seem to understand the habitat thing but um. but enjoyed putting the pieces on the puzzles. she seemed to kinda get it like when you were talking about you know [audio interference]. a little bit [audio interference]. and so we [audio interference] farms for um halloween and. and so we were able to see somebody milking a cow and like we were um able to see the pumpkin patches and things like that so. understand a little bit. yeah. um and so yeah we started off playing with that and then she wanted to feed the farmer a pizza and that got us over into the food. um and she played with the food for a while and we started um... the sushi was a new thing to her so she got the sushi and um I described what that was and. mhm. that led us into talking about things that are shaped like circles cause we've been working on shapes at home. um so we did that a little bit and she spent most of the rest of the time with the kitchen and food stuff and at the end kind of seemed to wanna start pretending with the things that weren't around.
the milk that isn't here but she had a cup so she wanted to pretend that there was milk and find a pretend fridge somewhere else and she kind of went beyond what was here that toward the end. does she like to do a lot of pretend stuff like that at home? she and her sister are both just starting to do the pretending. um yeah that's really just emerged over their last month. so that's mhm. xxx that was really cute and she imitated you doing it too. that's good. does she tend to gravitate more towards the different stuff too um or... like xxx... some yeah we have a kitchen at home and she does like playing with the play kitchen um. she really likes books. so it's kind of a surprise to me that she didn't go for Good Night Moon at any time cause she knows that book and um she's um really into books a lot so it's a surprise to me that she didn't do that. um but yeah she does like playing with the kitchen at home. does she... she pointed at it so I thought she would go for it so I was like huh I thought that was interesting... I thought so too yeah and... but maybe it's just cause that's old news cause we've read that book a million times you know so. exactly yeah... and she didn't seem to go for the dolls either which I thought was funny. no not at all. and even when I said hey are you interested in feeding something to this doll she's just like no [laughs] not interested! is she not um as into the dolls as um... as her sister no she's not. um of the two of them Allison is much more into dolls than Jordan is. does she xxx more like xxx and she more likes to kinda cuddle things or... um um yeah! her sister is much um more maternal and you know more gentle and um Jordan is a little bit more rough and tumble. a lot of times she doesn't even wanna play with any of the toys she wants to run and wants to have races and be physical and you know she's more more of a kinesthetic kid I think than her sister. she'll be a little athlete [laughs]. so yeah maybe we'll see.
yeah! I mean they both seemed to like a lot of stuff we had here. mhm a little bit yeah. so um I then I think she was starting to get into the tools just now. yeah do you have anything like that at home? we don't have anything like that at home we've got um the cubes that have the different shapes that you fit things in which is a little bit similar to this thing with the holes. but we don't have one of the like play tool set sorts of things we don't have that at home. yeah some of the little boys like I feel like a lot of the girls don't go for it as much xxx kinda look at it and then they wanna deal with the cooking or something. mhm right. um yeah she knew her shapes really well. didn't you? you know your shapes? yeah xxx... yeah pretty much. I actually feel like I think you guys were talking she even knew like the difference between like the rectangle and the xxx. yeah. she knows I mean it's not with a hundred percent accuracy obviously but she's starting to know her shapes. I think that's also why like they're getting so high too with like the the other test because I think some of the kids we've seen aren't really into shapes yet and. they seem to have really good... mhm. oh don't put that in your mouth! just pretend. don't really eat with it just pretend. yeah they seem to really you know do well with that xxx... mom. mommy will pretend. um. I'm tryin' 'o think what else... [eating] ooh go look at that that's cool! yeah.
anything different about like this play session versus the other ones I know the toys are different so... the well there wasn't any pretending whatsoever at the other play sessions that was not something they were ready to do. um and I just think there was a lot more awareness of what things were at this session just because they're so much older. I feel like with the puzzles um they can identify what they're playing with. and in the other play sessions they were so young that I was doing a lot of here's what this object is and trying to tell them and teach them. you just expand they're so much older that you can extend what you're doing. yeah they yeah. um into other learning and not just so be so focused on the vocabulary and more on the concepts that are beyond the vocabulary. yeah they seem to have really mastered the vocabulary you know and I think they're ready to. right. you know and this is good you know they're moving toward like the pretend things and so that's really great yeah! move beyond that right yeah it's. it's fun. yeah I know and it will be more fun to play now cause you can do more. mhm. you can pretend to make food like you just were doing so... right. that's great. um well that's all I hafta ask you about the play session. okay. I just have two more consents for you and then. we're done. um the last xxx... = = = childes/CHILDES_NA/NewmanRatner/Interviews/24/4997LM.cha = = = to play with huh. yeah well you know who you know what? let's see. I take it that Jennifer is hungry. Can you get her some food?
hm yeah here get some food for Jennifer. are you hungry Jennifer? oh good. I'm hungry. she's hungry? good here. see if she likes these. yeah. cut a piece of banana? [directed at child] so as long as you don't overtalk you can play with her. yes. she's xxx fast. I mean she's delightful. what? and um such a good cooperator. she is she's pretty good yeah. um and she well you guys played with a lot of things too. yeah. now what did you play with first? we played with the um animals first. and then we kinda went over to the doll lost interest in the doll real fast. you had a lot of different animals out, huh? yeah. now were there any that um you feel like she saw for the first time today? maybe like the warthog. yeah that one was a new one I was like hm. but uh she's a huge fan of zebras right now zebras she likes zebras. yeah I see xxx he remained part of the play. yeah.
yeah that was a little weird zebra. yeah his I guess it all connects the right way. yeah and then the tail is at the very end. yeah it's kind of a weird looking zebra. yeah. also not right. yeah. xxx oh well. it's a little bizarre. but um we have kids who go like oh yes the word zebra. you cooking for us? [directed at child] it seemed also like she had a pretty good idea of where different animals go. mhm. yeah she likes animals I mean she's always been a huge fan of animals more than like dolls or other things. animals. and you started with you're kind of all messed up huh. yeah. what did you find that was wrong? um she wasn't a huge fan of the octopus. yeah. octopus. [directed at child] they are interesting. yeah. she didn't really like the octopus too much. and then yeah she went to the dolls a little bit. mm tried to put shoes on the doll and she decided she was too big xxx yeah. but she recognized that dance outfit huh? yeah she likes tutus we have uh two tutus.
sometimes we hafta just say the tutu just is inside she can't wear the tutu outside. yeah yeah. yeah. [mother laughing.] there are certain things that she loves so much like that's for inside. like her whale pajamas they stay inside. 'cause if she had her way they would go outside a lot. yeah. and my guess is that xxx she has this at home. yeah yeah she likes good night moon. she said she wasn't xxx she was like reading it today. uh-oh. the cat. and what kind of food was he gonna get? oh was getting just about anything in there you got some peas I think we were just going through the top of like whatever was there pulling things out one at a time. were there any foods that you thought were like foods she eats at home? um I mean she eats bananas and she eats pizza she thought this was pizza she eats pizza what else... on the pear yeah. that was one she wanted to cut up for the zebra. and the spoon and the yogurt 's been a big deal recently as she's gettin' better with the spoon she's kinda again yeah so I think that's why she's been on that spoon. [mother laughing] not lettin' go of the spoon. well that makes sense. does she have play food at home? she doesn't really have play food at home. but at daycare I think she... no wait she does have some fruit yeah she does have play fruit at home. yeah yes we do have some play fruit forgot about that. I think at her daycare they have more food. it was nice to see too she has a lot of cooking routines. toys.
she knows what she's going to do with it. that it isn't just food eat that it hasta be cut and cooked and that you need tools so that was fun to see. was there anything you tried to play with and she was just like eh I'm not interested in it? well I mean she really wasn't interested in good night moon she wasn't interested in the zebra parts. she liked the front of it the [laughing] the other parts of the zebra not a fan of. not so much. not so much. and the magnets not really. is there anything that she usually plays a lot at home that we didn't really see today? um she ha'... loves letters like we have these little letter alphabet things and she loves playing with them xxx just... magnets. magnets. everywhere yeah. and then they... you know she'll put 'em in a bag and she'll carry them around then she'll take 'em out and then she'll put 'em back in and she does like to draw with crayons we've already kind of done that. yeah. mhm mhm she likes crayons a lot. yeah the she loves letters. neat. yeah. there was an o. mhm an o yeah anything that's circle is an o. you know I wanted to ask too I had a question about the computer. on the test did my I didn't think she said it but I wasn't sure. I don't think she said it and when she says computer it's more like when she says it at home xxx it sounds almost like pear. hm that makes sense. yeah. and I'm like is it... why does she think it's like a... I don't know. it's well you know it's three syllables it's hard. yeah. I don't think she said computer.
I would be surprised if she said... okay I just wanted to check because with the two year olds the articulation it's hard to xxx quickly enough sometimes. well let me see... are you going around? she... how does she feel about the playground? oh she likes the playground... she loves playground xxx down the slide slide down. she gets a quite upset if we're walking around the neighborhood and we don't go towards the park. there'll be a minor meltdown then we hafta convince her that we can work... we'll go later. yeah. she'll go down the swing but she's not as... she likes to climb up things and she recently fell off the slide so she'll want so she'll wanna slide down with you now 'cause you know she fell off she hit her head. yeah exactly. but she does like to climb up stuff. and she'll go on the swing for a little bit but she doesn't like... she likes more just you know the going up things and sticking her head in things. and is it true that she likes to swim? [laughing] like she she likes the bath I mean I maybe she thinks that's what it is. ah. [mother laughing ] she really I wouldn't say she's actually really done any swimming yet. swim. swimming but we do splash you in the [laughing] bathtub. yeah. I swim. ooh yeah no be careful. can you take off? yeah we're going to clean up in an little. [mother, clinician, and another person in room talking to child.] = = = childes/CHILDES_NA/NewmanRatner/Interviews/24/4724LM.cha = = = = = = childes/CHILDES_NA/NewmanRatner/Interviews/24/6630TM.cha = = = = = = childes/CHILDES_NA/NewmanRatner/Interviews/24/4903LS.cha = = =
xxx food back over there. hey guys! hi! [high pitched sounds]. wow! look at all that food! yum yum yum. wow you're really... beets! hm? wow! thank you! mm too hot! too hot. that would be hot the stove. yeah xxx. Jennifer he can keep playing for a little bit. okay! da! yeah! we're gonna try to talk! we'll see how that goes. yeah. um. so what kinds of things did he like to play with today? um. the food stuff. he didn't really... I would say the food. that was really what got him kind of involved.
well that's interesting. um. yeah we have a play kitchen at home so I don't... sometimes it's like the novelty thing is the big thing and sometimes its the toys what their familiar with. but um. I couldn't really get him into the puzzles. he liked this. he didn't like putting on this apron [laughs]. I or the uh t tool belt. xxx put that on and he's like uh no. he I mean it's it's hardly restricting. xxx he played with this a little bit. the tools with the screws. did ya? were there any um foods that were particular favorites? um. the foods and stuff. no. well I don't know he just liked kind of exploring a little bit and... I think he likes the rubbery feel of these just that's something that we don't have. I don't know. I mean I think that was a texture thing it's not like he was drawn to green beans necessarily. ha. um. are there any of those things that he eats? uh he eats the vegetables once in awhile but not as much as I'd like. um he liked the cupcakes. he seemed interested in this I don't know if it's because it's got the spiky. ya know. it's the radish or whatever.
I don't know why that seemed to interest him. a little bit right there. xxx I think it might be a beet. oh that is a beet! yeah. and he likes the spoons. he likes stirring stuff. does he cook at home? just pretend cook he's not really... can't quite figure out how to get him engaged. those are okay you can have those now Lucas. are you serious? aren't you going to use them for another... no that's okay. okay. this is my main sticky xxx. okay. turns out to be a stunningly successful technique. okay [laughs]. um. love those things huh? so he likes to mix... and what kinds of cooking... xxx what kinds of things does he do? um well I mean w what I do at home is I pretend ya know I say okay w here's what I wanna eat like my daughter plays restaurant so then they both cook. and I'll say I'm really hungry for a juicy steak and mash potatoes and a salad and so they run over and bring me s stuff that looks nothing like ya know. I mean they might bring me and hammer and say here's your steak. mm um um um. yeah. but um.
now what do we have that's an omelette? I thought it was a skillet thing. or would you call that a pot? I don't know. I was thinking omelette. maybe that's what I'm hungry for. I don't know. lets see it. oh this one doesn't have a cheat sheet on the bottom. oh. like a lot of em do! yeah. and... well unless you pop it out maybe. yeah. what kinds of food does he like to eat? he eats just about everything. I mean h he really eats... you like cheese? you like crackers... meat. um. right? peas. ah! look what you did! it's the sticky thing! you took them off one by one! that was cool! did you play with our dolls?
he didn't! I tried to say that this was a doctor and he didn't really come over... to do a whole lot with that. although sometime... he really liked this purse. that little pink um that thing. that xxx. it has a little xxx. yeah. I think he saw that it was pink and he lo ya know. everything is really about his sister he's... I don't know why xxx. yeah. and do you have any similar toys at home? we have a lot of pretend food. um we have some barnyard animals. lots of dolls. um. puzzles. yeah we have a little work bench. um. yeah I mean we have a ya know more of a kid sized pretend kitchen but... yeah. we don't have yeah. xxx in word world I think is cool. he um. were there any things that he that you hadta tell him the names of. I guess I didn't really get into anything that I showed him some of the animals. like that he would know... I didn't really...
like which ones? he didn't ask. ya know like I said this is a beaver. and... but he didn't really ask ya know what's this. mm. I tend to tell him. what? what the objects are. and this is a book he knows? he does know that one yeah. we have it in spanish at home but it's pretty xxx. how much spanish does he hear? my husband speaks only spanish to them. ah! so they understand it very well. um his pronunciation is pretty good... when you ask him to repeat something. um I e I you'll hea I mean when you know him you'll he'll say Un for a instead of like... he'll say Un apple. mhm. so he'll use he'll mix the spanish article with the english word. has he um has your husband spoke spanish with them since th since he was born? yeah with both yeah. they've always like... they understand it but now my daughter is much more exposed to english because she's in kindergarten. mm. so she's gone ya know eighty percent of the day or whatever. that figures out to. when he comes home...
like sometimes she's getting a little frustrated at this point so we hafta keep pushing it. cause if... you don't wanna give up now. cause you really want them to know the language you gotta give it another two or three years and kinda get passed this point where she's saying I don't understand and she looks at me and says ya know what's he saying. and instead of me saying what he's saying he finds another word to explain what ya know what he's trying to get across what his point is. awesome. so at this point he understands I think... I think it is fifty fifty what he hears at home. mm. um but with her now it's gone. much more english because she's not ya know she's gone for most of the day. well that's great though. mhm. they're getting it and it's and they're her pronunciation is still better than mine because I didn't start until I was in eighth grade. so you know they get it they hear it. it's amazing. so. right Lucas? hm? eh a rug. what? xxx rug! rug! I don't think so. = = = childes/CHILDES_NA/NewmanRatner/Interviews/24/4641CC.cha = = = she can keep playing. okay. I wanted to ask you a couple things about you know our new toys. sure haha!
what kinds of foods did she like to play with? um I can't decide if she liked or didn't like the squishy ones. um I think she did. um but definitely the cupcakes were her favorite. and the fact that they fit so easily in a um real looking pan. yes. was good. what kinds of food here does she eat? um she eats cupcakes. she has seen all these vegetables but does not eat them. oh no she has seen peas and green beans. she eats icecream. she eats pizza. um tuna she seemed to like but doesn't eat. um and she eats pears but not in this form. she knows this form. yeah yeah. she might have that at school. and then she kept saying I guess this was a pear or an apple. so I know she knows it's a fruit. but she hasn't seen that form of peach in a long time either [laughing]. yeah. were there any other things that you had told her what were? um I guess the beets. she calls bananas nani. cake? I think I told her cheese. and I know I didn't know if this was an onion or a beet. or I don't know what it is [laughing]. she seems to really like cooking.
uhhuh. what kinds of cooking routines. she seems to have a number of she knows to... she has a kitchen at home. but she uses... I have an older daughter. she uses it way more than the old daughter. [child is speaking over her and may have caused error.] can I have a cupcake? are they ready? no. they're not ready? okay. um she do... she bothers me haha. she bothers me in the kitchen a lot haha when I cook dinner. my husband isn't home yet. so she's often in the kitchen with me. and she's often hungry by dinner. so she wants the food as I'm cooking it. so she knows hot. um very well. 'cause I usually have food steaming for her 'cause she's been waiting. she also seems to know to mix and... mhm yes. and we do cook together. I think they cook maybe once a month in her school. oh how fun! I don't know how much she's allowed to participate in. but we do cook at home.
pretend and real. gentle gentle gentle [microphone static]. and you also played with our dolls? mhm. what kinds of things does she usually do with the dolls? she's not so so into dolls... um beside where she pushes one around in the ah stroller. [eating sounds for child]. delicious thank you. and she likes to like briefly feed them briefly pat them. oh they look so good [to child]. but not you know do any like long scenes with 'em. but she'll watch me do it. you know for a long time pretend. she seems pretty interested in their clothes. she um is very interested in everybody's clothes. like when my husband and I wake up early in the morning she immediately tells us what to put on. like she makes my husband put a shirt on right away and pants. and his tie. and then when he gets home in the afternoon she immediately wants his tie off. like she associates a lot of parts of the day with clothes. so I think that's you know part of her thing. and she's picky about her own clothes as well. you're so silly! mhm. and shoes and socks are important. shoes and socks yes. yes I think that was the first thing she learned to take off herself so... mommy! yes honey?
[sighs]. and she's very aware of her all nighttime routine. so like we sing to her. we read to her. night night night night! and she sleeps with her cup and her foxy. and she's a good sleeper. and good to go down. it's easy for her to pretend that routine too. she likes to play that. and also birthday has made a big impression. yes for sure yeah. she just had a birthday this month or ah April. is there anything that you tried to get her interested in that she just didn't want? um yeah I wanted... 'cause I think that haha that this toy is cool. I always think those kind of toys are cool. but neither of my daughters are ever too interested in like those little play scene things. they'd much rather do pretend play. which is fine with me too. I understand. so silly! cupcake there they go! what are they really? she's also more of a destructive player than my older daughter. like she you know will do this. throw stuff. knock down towers immediately haha. um but I think it's just part of her personality. she's like...
and her number two status. always. yeah yeah. true. what you can do when you participate and you're the little one is sometimes more on that end. mhm. and she thinks lots of things are hilarious. oh that is hard! gentle. gentle yeah. cupcakes! cupcakes! go find them! is there anything she loves to play with at home that we really didn't have here today? she um because of her sister is very into princesses. like the Disney princesses. and like she'll hold them and sing like them. that's like I would say how she plays ninety percent of the time haha. it's lovely to hear her sing. yeah haha. she was interested in the backpack huh? she likes wearing backpacks herself. she always has us put a backpack on for her. and she watches Dora The Explorer and they have a backpack. and the backpack sings. so she knows that song too. [talking to child] where is it? can you walk around and look for it? [directed to child.]
hah I see it! [to child.] what do ya say? [to child.] [vocalizes] mm delicious! [to child.] delicious! did you have good night moon out at all? I'm sorry? did you have good night moon out? yes. um we have like four copies of that book. but she's not interested in that particular story. she reads princess stories [laughing]. um but um again with stories she understands the end. she understands the last page. we can tell if she's tired or not because she'll say the end! or she'll be again again! and open to the beginning so... um she does like books. it took a really long time for her to like books. but now she likes them. she can sit for them haha. right? yeah! = = = childes/CHILDES_NA/NewmanRatner/Interviews/24/4866AC.cha = = =
so what did she play with first? I think. and the food. yeah. and um does she have toys like this at home? she does we actually just got our kitchen the other day. so she's into that and my mom has this exact toy. um and we were there for two weeks over the summer. and she played with it a lot. and you know. would pots on it and put food in it and cook pasta and you know I don't know what she would make up when she was cooking but. um yes so she likes to play with those. were there any foods that were her special favorites? um I mean she went for the cupcakes. but no I mean at home she kinda goes for everything she goes for. we have some fake pancakes she goes for those a lot. um but here I wouldn't say anything in particular. and were there any foods that um she didn't know but you told her? uh she didn't know a kiwi. she's had kiwi but she doesn't really. eat it very much. not in the full way [laughs]. I mean she's had it like that but she just we don't have it often. so I don't think she remembered it. and I didn't tell her what the beads were because I... [sighs]. she didn't seem to care so [laughs]. ah. and then you played with the animals for awhile? yeah.
um. she um...? she knows some of the animals she was more interested in zipping these. she really liked zipping. these up and down. does she have um favorite animals? um. she likes to talk about goats we went to a farm over the summer and she gotta hold a baby goat. ooh. so she likes to talk about that. I like that too. and we have a picture and so sometimes she sees it and she says " I hold goat!" so... aw! yeah she likes to talk about goats. but um she knows a lot of the you know the basic farm animals. she knows all of them. and um. were there any of our exotic animals that you played with today? um. we played with a octopus she knows what an octopus is. but she recognizes it in books. hm. she thought this was a spider. well yeah! I mean eight you know eight legs so. yeah. um she called it a spider. and I told her it was an octopus but then she kind of ignored it [laughs].
and what about these other guys? um I told her what they were but she like I said she was more interested in zipping. ah. than she was in playing with the animals. and did she like um like water animals and... um yeah. yeah we have books about under the sea and she likes to talk about you know the fish and the. shark she loves she watches Nemo sometimes and her favorite part is this part [laughs] the sharks. ooh [laughs]. that's not what I would put on and you know, but she likes the shark parts so... ah. she thinks Bruce is funny. [laughs]. have you been to the aquarium yet? yes. we went to the um. one in Georgia. ooh. the one in Atlanta is. amazing and she likes that. um I'm trying to think I don't think we've. Brian took her to one my husband took her to one and. I think in the. early part of the summer. d' you think there's a chance she's seen an eel then? sometimes they have... I don't know. she wouldn't remember it I don't think. although who knows she remembers things that I don't expect her to remember. so.
[laughs]. and then um. and then you also played a little bit with the dolls? yeah. um. does she um does she have dolls at home? she does she likes to feed them and push them around in the stroller. and um she actually just got a changing set for one of them to out on new diapers and things like that. so she likes to help me do that. she cant quite get the clothes off yet and all. that but she likes to help with that. and yeah baby Stella so... oh! [laughs]. that's a good name. yeah. but um does she like to dress and undress herself? um yeah she likes to be naked a lot of the t [laughs] she doesn't take her clothes off a lot I mean she does it. she helps at night but. hm. she kinda she likes to pick out her clothes but she doesn't always do the best job at pulling her pants up or you know pulling her shirt on and. she can go do her socks but. um and she likes to put shoes on. yes! those are very important. yeah so. and that was cute with the dance. [laughs] oh she loves music. we have Raffi and I wrote on the thing that's what her favorite thing to listen to is but. a lot of his songs he has them participating so.
that's the one that she likes to you know dance too. and its always mommy dance. " daddy dance." you know she makes everybody dance with her. oo! and so... and there's a bunch of songs where they have motion so. oh that's neat. yeah. um is there anything she really loves to play at home that we didn't have at all here? um she really likes beads. which we already played with. um she's always asking to do her bead necklace. um and then we have a toy that's kind of like a light bright thing. if you remember the light brights and. I do but bigger [laughs]. yeah yeah I mean they're like this you know they're about this size. and um you can do pictures from it but she usually just likes to use them plain but I mean its basically like popping them into a thing kind of like this. and it has four different colors. um there's three different colors I cant remember and she likes... she will all the time just make lines of the different colors. and you know. hm. now does she ask for it huh? um yes she's sort of picking up the tools yeah cause she likes... she does have a tool set she likes to put things in. um and like I said this was kind of reminiscent of that. that toy that she has. that she likes to play with. and yeah I thought that these were screws.
that we're screwing but apparently there's no telling. [laughs] yeah. and she'll have like a knot I think? yeah! yeah. that's what I was looking for but I didn't see them. so... cause I think these are just the bolts. and then the screw driver doesn't... I guess I could've turned that I didn't even test it. but if it won't stay in. yeah yeah. its kind of not as exciting is it? [laughs]. hm. um. let me see uh is there anything that you wanna ask me? about what you've seen today? = = = childes/CHILDES_NA/NewmanRatner/Interviews/24/7251TR.cha = = = yep. okay. so you guys played with. um a little bit with he picked up the dolphin I think first and was playing with that. and I picked up the shark I guess for the Melissa and Doug and showed him that. um then I think the next thing we played with was um the doll and putting on the jacket for the female. then putting on the chef's um coat. and then getting him to put on the hat. um then pretty much brought out the stove. and then the pot and put stuff in there.
and had him try to stir the pot. um and then he was playing with this for a while on his own with one of these pieces trying to stick it in to screw in the wood. um I tried to get him to play with this a little bit. um but he wasn't really interested in that. so mostly he was interested in the stove and the pot and putting the food in there. so and stir can I add this. to your pot. does he have anything like that at home. no he doesn't. can I add this. yeah. is um does he like try to help you in the kitchen at home or. something. yeah. he'll come in the kitchen. and he he'll kind of you know try to look to see what i'm doing and stuff like that. um and he will walk out occasionally and go back out. but then come back in as if he's like trying to see what are you doing. and occasionally we have a dishwasher. occasionally um my husband and I will open up the dishwasher. and he'll try to like help us close it. um just the other day like spoons my husband allowed him to take the spoon out of the um the rack and hand it to him so he can put it back in the drawer. so he wants to help put stuff away. yeah as well basket. pot. maybe he recognized that. there you go. mhm. does he think he recognized any of the foods that he played with. um I don't know for sure.
if he did to be honest with you. um I think he recognized the cupcakes. you wanna put this in um the peas. I'm not quite sure if he did or not. I don't think he recognizes that. because he doesn't see that often or if at all. um so i'm not sure. has he ever eaten any of those foods before. peas. um he has gotten peas. has he eaten. it is another question. mhm. um he typically doesn't like eating veggies anything. veggie oriented or green. I would say. but he's probably seen you eat some of these because I know we have some kind of weird foods. yeah. he definitely has seen us my husband. and I eat those drinks. um with the exception of the beefs you don't really eat too many beef like that. yeah. so yeah. and he recognizes I think that the juice. yummy. does he have any like tools kind of things like that. wanna put this. in there. no. he doesn't have any tool toys at all.
and what about with the animals. you said. he kind of got into some has he like ever been to a farm or anything. yeah. you he knew um I don't know if he knows. but he does have a like a fisher price farm set um which has like a pig a cow a horse. so some of the basic animals. um and he's been to like a farm twice. so I can't say for sure that. yeah. he recognizes these things. or like have you guys ever been to the aquarium. so. there's some of the underwater animals. yeah we have um he went to the aquarium. but he went like when he was probably around six to eight months old. so I doubt he would remember any of those. um he does have a puzzle on Melissa and Doug puzzle. that's like fish like the aquarium. so um he might recognize some of the things that are matched up with that puzzle he has at home. because often he'll pull that puzzle out and pull the pieces off. um and it has like octopus and turtle and um and shark and stuff like that on it. and then he's bath toys as well. he's got some bath toys um that are like plastic ones that squirt water. and it's um like a shark and a stingray. and a duck and some other stuff in there as well. so yeah he might recognize some of them. yeah. we had like some of these animals were kind of weird like the more lifelike ones. I dunno.
yeah those. and he is not gonna recognize those because we don't really show him. you know stuff like that. and sheep. he might recognize bear. I'm not quite sure if he's so good with that. um dinosaurs. I don't think he see dinosaur here. no. he's not gonna recognize that. mhm. deer. does he have anything like this at home with the dolls or. um no. he doesn't have dolls. he's just mainly got stuffed animals like bears. he's got a stuffed puppy. he's got um like a dinosaur or something like that. like a Barney. I think it's Barney. um and he's got like a penguin but no dolls. he seemed to like it. I think though right these one. yeah. yeah I think he liked when I was putting on the clothes on them. he was laughing. I can say though his sitter she watches him and my niece. and she's got dolls because she had a granddaughter. so he might have recognized dolls because he's seen them at daycare. so.
yeah exactly right or seen my niece who's not too far off in age from him. do the play with the doll. so. yeah. does he does he like to play with um his cousin. yeah. he plays with her. but then you know as kids that age they fight too. and I think the big issue is like when they play with one object the other one wants to play with it as well. so it's like a fight between which one is says. oh it's mine. no it's mine. they've not quite learned how to share yet. so um yeah. but for the most part they play well together. and they get along. because you like to play independent like it seems like he's kind of. yeah he does. he's very he has a hard time sharing objects with people. so if you're playing and you're trying to you know he's got an object. and he's playing with it. and you're like. hey let me show you how to do this. now he's got a hard time transitioning to get you to allow you to play with it. yeah. I mean like earlier. days or show you. yeah. yeah he was we had to kind of switch. mhm.
but that I mean he's. too you know. yeah. so yeah he has a hard time doing that. and he liked the book I think. he does he has um he has good night moon. the other one's over there. he has that at home. um but he likes books in general I think because even at home he'll play with his toys. but then eventually he'll transition and pick out a book from the stack of toys we have. and sit down and kind of sort through the pages. and like kind of babble like as if he's trying to read it out loud. so he does like books. he's always liked books. yeah. he liked the ones like earlier. he was he seemed interested in them. mhm. um yeah. so he like he tries to read them to you. yeah. he'll try to read. so like usually I was surprised. he didn't do this when um you asked me to read it and have him read it back to me. because usually at before bedtime if I read him a story at the end i'm like. okay all done. b end. and then he flips it back over. and he'll turn the pages. and he'll you know sit there and babble as if he's like reading it to me.
so um I was a little surprised that he wasn't willing to do that today. maybe maybe because it's not a familiar book or something. I don't know. maybe. yeah. or the timing. yeah. we're trying to do a lot of things. yeah. so is there anything else that was different. like from other play sessions we've had with you. um I mean I was surprised that you know even though he seemed like he wasn't really wanting to do everything you were doing. I was surprised to see that he actually when he did attend he was able to do some of the things he did. um so that was a little bit surprising to me because I didn't really expect him to really sit there with you and say and try you know um especially some of the things i'm like. yeah I don't know how long he's gonna last with that. it seems like if he if he's having a hard time then he would wanna do it. yeah. but if he like. well like the beads. I didn't think he would stay. yeah. I didn't think so either. fuck through it. yeah. that was good. and what about like playing with these toys. was it similar to the other play sessions. we. had I think so I think it was similar. I think unlike the other ones I think he was more likely to switch or transition to different ones.
I think the earlier ones he was more stuck on certain things and did not want to transition. um I think one of the earlier ones he seemed to be stuck with the books that were placed in front of us. and did not wanna explore the other toys. like I would say months ago. he would not have paid attention if I like picked up the doll and was like putting clothes on it. he would totally ignore me and play with something else. um. notebooks. we had in the other sessions. I think they had like uh touch and feel or something. mhm. they're kind of more like they're more interesting. like there was like a fuzzy one. mhm. or something like that. mhm. so yeah he definitely was interested in seeing what else was out there. well and the toys were different like they're more babyish. I think like the stuffed in type. things. mhm. I forget what else we have. we have food in the other sessions. yeah. you do stove. no there wasn't. it's just mainly I think last time it was like the pizza the hamburger and the ice. cream. remember that last time. mhm.
but um yeah. okay. is there any other anything else you wanna tell me about. like his play or anything or any questions you have. um no I think that's pretty much all. okay. yeah. I was surprised. you didn't have automobiles. I think the reason probably is because kids only stay stuck on the cars and stuff if you get them. but um yeah well he liked those cars ahead earlier. but yeah no I don't think any of the sessions. we don't have any cars or anything like that. good. so. alright. well yeah. so we have everything. I just have two everything. great. two final consents for you. okay. great. um and this one you guys. = = = childes/CHILDES_NA/NewmanRatner/Interviews/24/6453HS.cha = = = Devon's gonna help you dress your dolls okay? Mommy do it. I think he needs some shoes. I'm gonna just talk to Mommy for a minute.
look! I think his shoes are missing. [fist 6 lines are IDS.] okay. sorry. um so can you tell me about um what you guys played with today? um we played with... she does a lot of the same things at home. um the playing with the food and pretending to cook. um and she doesn't dress the babydolls at home as much. oh really? but we don't have as many clothes but like at home she likes to put 'em to sleep cover 'em with blankets. and um she has one that sits on the potty and everything so. she does that. she doesn't do as much of the dressing so. that was new for her. so today she was helping you like put the boots on and stuff. mhm. mhm. should we move you guys over a little bit? [addressed to other clinician.] okay. um so you said at home she mostly will put them to sleep and stuff so today that was like a brand new thing? mhm. oh that's cool. yep. and then you said you have toy food at home? yeah she has the toy food and she has like the little sink or yeah the stove and refrigerator with a bunch of play food so. she enjoys that. she just got it for her birthday so.
oh so just the other day. it's new too. yeah. does she do the same kind of things like putting in the pan and stuff? mhm. yeah and then she tries to share it with everybody so. yeah. do you think she recognizes some of these foods? I think so. yeah. I mean some of them are unfamiliar. but I know she recognized the peas and the corn. a lot of the vegetables are common to her but she probably doesn't recognize some of these other things. she definitely recognized the icecream. [laughs] so. do you think um the ones that you showed her like has she ever seen you eat any of them maybe like some of the ones like the kind of different kinds of foods? mhm. yeah like the sushi she's never had herself. but she's seen us eat it. and then she's never seen a kiwi I don't think. um. but yeah I mean I think most of them are familiar to her. so. does she try to ever help you in the kitchen like stirring stuff and...? oh yes. yes she does. yeah she um sometimes too much. yeah that's fine. [addressed to other experimenter.] what were you saying sometimes what?
sometimes she helps a lot. like I mean things like baking cookies she's really helpful with. but when it's something hot no. yeah. I'm a little nervous to have her help. you wanna go see the fountain? we'll save the barn for you right here. okay? you come back. [above four lines are IDS.] um so she likes to help you like try to mix up stuff? mhm. yeah. yeah. so she's pretty helpful with anything I let her try so. yeah. yeah she seemed to know what the stove was and know that... mhm. did she try to cook on it at all though? uh she turned the dials but I think that was her pretending too. and then with the animals you tried to get her to play with it but...? yeah I called her attention to it but she didn't really seem that interested. um at home she plays with dinosaurs like this. and she loves that. so she's really into dinosaurs. but um I guess she's never seen this size of all those animals. I'm not sure why she wasn't interested in those but. maybe just the foods were exciting for now. yeah. yeah.
food and the dolls so. well and these are all new so. yeah. from the other visits. yeah. did she do kind of similar things to um what she did in the other visits? uh no it seemed like everything's changed developmentally like... I mean before she would just like pick up the food and like try to put 'em in her mouth and now she's pretending to cook 'em and um... and she wasn't even interested in the dolls last time. she didn't really care about them. and now clearly she does. so. yeah she probably would have gone straight for just the food last time. and maybe the animals but not actually like playing with them. mhm. now I imagine she would have like lined 'em up and like played with 'em and pretend they're eating things and things like that so. that's what she does at home. so at home you said she doesn't have those. with it. she doesn't have those. she like lines up her dinosaurs and then pretends they're eating from the trees and things like that. so. I think the other visits it was like stuffed animals. mhm. like more baby xxx. yeah. do you think she would recognize um any of these animals? like have you ever been to the aquarium or like...? yes. she probably would.
I mean maybe not these but like definitely the zebra and the panda. and definitely the pig. if there's a tiger in here somewhere she'd recogni... yeah. so probably about half of them she'd recognize. have you guys been to the zoo or something? mhm. yeah and we read a lot of animals. animal books. so. she likes to read a lot with you? yeah. oh yeah that's like one of her favorite things to do. so. I don't know if she was interested in this book I don't know... she has it at home. so maybe it was just she had seen it already so. mhm. well and I think at the other visits there were more books and today there's just this one. mhm. do you guys read like every day? oh yes. we probably read for about at least an hour a day. she loves it so much. yeah. so um. and actually her favorite books that she likes to hear all the time over and over again she's actually memorized a lot of the words. so yes. she enjoys reading a lot. that's good.
um is there anything else that was different about the session that you wanna tell me? I know you said that the dressing was something new. mhm. the way she played with the food was totally different then... I mean I don't know if they had the food. I think there was food earlier. but she didn't play with it the same way. um and I guess her attention span was a little bit longer in this one for the toys. like she probably wouldn't have played with any one toy as long as she did in the last visits. she probably would have just moved from toy to toy. so. I thought she was gonna jump to the animals 'cause she seemed like she was getting tired of the food kinda but then she went right back for it. mhm. I guess with the doll she sort of incorporated them. yeah. yeah. she's does that at home she feeds everything. she even tries to feed the dog. so [laughs]. that's cute. yeah. yeah it seemed like she was pretty familiar with that stuff. yeah I wonder if she would have known 'cause the thing that is cool about these too is we have the scenes and this has little scenes in it so we try to switch them up. yeah. I think sometimes they're too young to know kinda like what goes where. yeah. mhm. yep. yeah I'm not sure why she wasn't interested. but there's a lot out so.
mhm. and then does she have anything like this at home? not like that. no she has like a little fake hammer but nothing fine motor like this. mhm. I mean tool wise. but she has other fine motor toys but um they're you know like the little posts with the stackable rings. that kind of thing. so. yeah. she doesn't really have anything like that either. I guess all of this is kinda new. yeah. it's a lot at one time. yeah. um or she figured it out when I was doing it with her earlier kinda how to do it. mhm. so I didn't know if she had something like that at home. yeah. uhuh. but. no that was new too. you said she likes to stack blocks and stuff? oh yeah. yeah we have legos and then we have... she stacks... we don't really have just blocks. but she stacks other things. like sometimes rather impressively. yeah like well she was helping me with the blocks but I think she was getting mad doing it on her own.
yeah. but I was trying to see if she could do you know one. yeah. I'm sure she probably could have I think she was getting frustrated. yeah. she doesn't normally work with just the square blocks. I know what it is. we have all these different shaped blocks. so they have triangles and you know like little arches and things. and she plays with that for a long time. and she stacks those and those aren't even uniform shape so. hm. maybe that was kind of it was just like something weird. mhm. big big chair now. [IDS.] scoop. yeah she's really talking a lot. yeah. you said just like in the last week she learned a lot more words? yeah. I mean it's sort of like a language explosion for the last month and a half. I mean I was a little concerned for a little while until she was like twenty months and then all the sudden it was like [gestures]. yeah. explosion of words so. I mean she'll put like four words together in a phrase that actually makes sense pretty regularly which I dunno if that's... that's good. that's yeah. usually around two they're doing like um two words together maybe three. mhm.
that's good. yeah I heard her saying kinda long sentences like she said grandma's glasses and stuff like that. mhm. so she's doing a lot of that. that's good yeah. really talkative. um okay so I guess the last thing I can try to do the last two things and see. okay. see if she'll go for it. and then that'll be it. alright. so thank you so much. yeah. = = = childes/CHILDES_NA/NewmanRatner/Interviews/24/5928RL.cha = = = just like kind of the last one I'm just gonna ask you some questions about the play. yep. would it be more comfortable for you to be there or in the chair? um at the moment let me just stay here haha. okay. haha I'll figure out... I'll see if I can help with the shoes. so um we just wanted to talk about what you guys started playing with today. she was really fixated on shopping. it is sort of what she's been into lately. I think because while I had my broken leg my husband was shopping so they would go shopping together. and so she's into shopping haha. haha so she knows like they get cans. she wouldn't call them cans but she knew she need these and we buy cans. and she was you know gathering the things she knows we buy and you know then she went to get baby dolls which has been her big thing lately.
and she likes to change their diapers... you know she needs her diaper changed usually. haha when she wants to change the baby's diapers and... and that sort of stuff. so that sort of made sense and then... she was into co wanting to cook. she tries to help cook at home so I could see that. and then we have a pizza cutter for pizza. so she knows that you know that we make pizza and you cut the pizza and stuff like that. but it seemed like all of these things she thought of them as items she bought. she wasn't interested going in the bags and you know like I'd show he you know you know ask her about the zebra and she would throw the zebra there and I'm like do you wanna cook the zebra. haha but she wasn't really interested in what was in the containers which is kind of different then. well last time... ouch I just bit my tongue. sorry. last time we didn't have like containers or anything. they were just sort of loose and she would sort of... each times were different of what she's done with the animals. this is sort of the first time she's actually flat out ignored them. yes she's definitely very into the cooking and the shopping. so you said she watches you cook at home? yes. and she tries to help. okay. does she like watch you cook anything specific? or is it just...? well like she know like the family makes pizza together so she knows about that. and then yesterday like her brother had a friend over so we all made fudge together so... I mean she just wants to help. like she wants to stir and that sort of stuff but...
like we have an electric stove so I was sort of reminding her you can't have you know put your hands down and be careful with the pots because she'll. get burned. so sort of the thing that kinda of was the common thing was the thing she's interested in right now which is sort of playing with baby dolls and playing with cooking and shopping. and so... anything else beyond that is... I mean she likes books and all but I mean you saw when as soon as you pull them out first thing she'll do is the baby doll and she wanted to go play with the baby doll. so some of this food was there anything that maybe she hadn't seen before? new foods? no. well the kiwi is something we don't eat. and so she didn't really know what to do with it because she's trying to cut it and can't figure out why it's not cutting. but I was surprised she even knew it was something you cut because it's not something we eat. um I mean like the foods generally like... I was surprised she knew what green beans were I mean we have it occasionally at home but her brothers hate it so does my husband so they're always like we don't like this and when she said they were beans I was kind of surprised. um but like you know the meats and stuff like that she knows. I don't think she has any clue what this is. haha yeah. yeah. I mean that's not something... that's fine. yeah that's not something we have around the house. so I wasn't surprised she had no clue and didn't even focus on them. I mean she knows... she didn't go for them she was just more into I wanna shop so I mean she knows about cans and she knows meat and that sort of stuff but it wasn't like... and she wanted to put it in her basket because you know how giant has the little baskets and the kids baskets so she gets all of that. does she have baby dolls at home? yes. and um she really didn't get into them until the last few months. like the last time we were here I guess at eighteen months. that's about the time she started to even look at them.
before that she could care less. and then lately she's been more into holding the baby and changing the baby and feeding the baby. all that sort of stuff. does she usually like to put like clothes on them and stuff? she mostly strips them and then put diapers on and then you know walks around. oh and she likes to get diaper cream and she goes the baby needs diaper cream on her bottom. haha which is a little disturbing. because she's like gotta and she wants to put lotion on the baby. she needs lotion. she has dry skin. but she's like the baby needs lotion. and yeah. but watching her change the baby doll the other day was kind of interesting. she goes oh and I needta go get wipes. I needta wipe the baby's bottom and I'm like you needta go the potty haha. so but she doesn't really spend time dressing. it's mostly stripping hugging kissing feeding diap diapering. but putting clothes on is the most I've seen her do. putting clothes on because she doesn't normally do that. and were there any other toys that maybe I know the animals anything you tried to get her to play with that she wasn't really interested in? no I think she would have been more interested in this if she could figure out instantly whether or not it was a puzzle. um because the first thing she sort of said is this is a puzzle and then she's looking down looking for like well where's the design to put the pieces in and she's like oh there's the baby doll. where's the pot? yeah. I think she would have been more interested in that and then... she didn't seem to get the tool thing. I don't know why. that was kind of weird. she didn't seem to be interested in that. she was thinking this was more of a bib.
oh okay. but she you know I was trying to get her to focus on hammer and that sort of stuff but she's like where's the baby? where's the cooking? which is funny because she has older brothers and she plays. I mean a lot of her toys are her brothers toys that they had and just have kept them all. so she you know hammers on like the xxx. workbench sort of thing xxx. but she didn't seem to focus on it much. so I mean besides the tools any other toys that she has at home that we didn't have here that she usually plays with? um toys that she plays with. um a little Einstein rocket car so she kinda goes around the house and plays with that or she got like a trampoline for christmas. a little one for her so she kinda plays with that now like she jumps on that. and um. brother's play hockey so you know there's many sticks around the house so she does that. and she plays with balls. so then she kicks the balls and does that sort of stuff. um I'm trying to think toys per se. I mean she likes more the manipulative books. so like she likes these and you know she knows good night moon. but like Santa brought her a potty training book that has like a little button that you know you hear the toilet flushing or um the Thomas tank engine books that you know if you see the picture you push and you get a noise. that sort of stuff she likes with books. I mean she'll usually sit down I think maybe she was getting a little... had a long day. was there anything you noticed today about her play that um was a little different from what she normally does or was it pretty much...? it's the difference was more from what she did the last time we were here. I mean it's the play was definitely on what she's interested in now. it's funny like as we've done this the first time she was really attracted to color. like the bright stuff she was focused on. if it was red or orange or pink she was there. it couldn't sort of was starting to recognize food but it was more that the bright colors that's where she was.
and then the next time it was more she was into the animals and things that she recognized and food and stuff like that. she wasn't how do I say it she wasn't putting everything together. versus now she could sort of see her focus on something and it sort of fits into an area versus what she useta do. like she'll play with the dolls and like have something to do or she's like okay I'm going shopping and I'm doing all of that. versus like the first time she's like you know I see pizza. you know when she was talking pizza or this or that. but she wouldn't go and next thing okay let me go find the things that go on the pizza or let me go take it to the stove. the other thing is the toys are a little bit more mature too. yeah I understand that. yeah. because I remember the... this was here before but this wasn't here before. as I mentioned these were xxx xxx xxx xxx. and I think there were little puzzles before where she would play with it. great. she did a great job today. we got through... she's polite. yeah. sorry she's a little piggy today. she's so sociable. you really feel like you can have a conversation. yeah she's a little quiet at first and then all of the sudden she just opened up. just talking and talking. it was great. usually she's a little... she goes through phases... sometimes she like when we first got here she'll be like you know hi you know. in the past and then I think you know she's getting through that stranger thing so she's sort of like where's mommy and then. which isn't bad.
yeah. = = = childes/CHILDES_NA/NewmanRatner/Interviews/24/4814BS.cha = = = [eating noises]. [addressed to the child until line 21.] want some peas. [child makes some noise.] and cheese sandwich. the cheese sandwich. yeah. peas on your sandwich. [silence]. wow look at that beautiful sandwich! yeah it's gonna be yummy. mhm. I wonder if the time that we do this? influences what they play with? if they what? oh xxx time. the time thing. hey. [addressed to the child.] not for actual eating. what. [mom's speech addressed to the child.] [breating]. well he enjoys playing. um. in his kitchen. yeah.
[silence]. what kinds of things does he like to do? [moving toys around until line 44.] I noticed that he's a got a lot of. cooking. actions. yeah. yeah so we play. we gotta like. kuh. kid kraft kitchen set for. for christmas. so he likes ta. do that. um. he cooks eggs. and he gets water out of the faucet. and brings me things and stirs things and. um. brings me more. he says more please. [a little toy noise.] so I say more please. and um. jumping lots of jumping. lots of climbing. climbing climbing climbing. oh yeah yeah. [mom is whispering.] just pretend please.
[addressed to the child.] yeah that makes xxx. [toy noise.] what um. what foods do you think that he knew? [smacks lips together]. [clinician might be talking too.] um. he definitely was like cheese. [a little toy noise.] and the kiwi he knew. um. if he had played with the banana he would have known them. [slight toy noise near the end.] banana. [toy noise on the word.] [silence]. um. I mean he knows what peas are I... don't think he's a huge fan of them. mhm. um. and were there any ones you needed to tell him? the um. [clinician might also be talking.] the peach. we haven't really. had peaches very much. so I don't think he knew much about the peach. and I'm not really sure what that oniony thing is myself.
haha. I think it's an oniony thing. [clinician laughing over mother's first words.] haha. I think it's a beet. [sound in the middle.] oh a beet! [microphone noise]. it could definitely be a beet. uh not alright. I don't think so. no. [moving toys around]. xxx these. yes yes yes those were main beets that we were. that we were playing with. I have pictures of him with. beet juice all down his... [noise]. but it was like in his playroom for tomorrow he makes recipes with it? sure mhm. [moving toys around]. and brings things. [clincian mumbling at the beginning.] and only he xxx. yeah. [moving toys around]. oh that's our. [noisy line due to toys.] woah!
[directed at the child. Noisy line due to toys.] oh! [noisy line due to toys.] [eating noises]. [directed to the child.] what's she eating Bobby? [addressed to the child.] [moving toys around]. what's she got? [addressed to the child.] [moving toys around]. dumping them. [noise on the line.] oh dumping them out. [addressed to the child. noisy line.] oh my goodness! [addressed to the child.] cool. [addressed to the child.] are there any? things that you tried to get him interested in that he didn't like? well I mostly let him play with that one you saw with the. farm he wasn't so into the. into the farm thing. right now. [clinician mumbling too.] I brought that out. I think I stopped at which of the animals did you play with? um. [toy noise towards the end.]
oh these. he looked in the animals. and he pulled out the dolphin. he knows about dolphin. [breathes]. and then he pulled out the moose. mhm. and I couldn't come up with noise a moose. [child making some noise.] makes. ha'. so then. he didn't. pick out any other animals. haha. um so. this is. it's peanut butter. [addressed to the child until line 192.] mhm. [addressed to the child.] oh for pretend. [addressed to the child.] it's not milk. [Bad line. Addressed to the child. Mom talking too.] it's yucky. [addressed to the child.] [silence]. um yes those are the only animals. and he didn't.
he didn't play with the dolls. he does have. um. a couple babies at home. [silence]. that um. that he'll. put to bed and. tuck in. do nigh nights. [silence]. and uh. xxx open this. open this? [addressed to the child.] but it's pretend. [addressed to the child. mom is kind of laughing.] [silence]. have one we can uh. [addressed to the child.] see if we can open for real if it's ready. [addressed to the child.] he does it in terms of pretending. s. somebody. ah. a thought it. and he. and he knows some of his kitchen utensils. mhm.
well he knows. he knows mostly knife fork and spoon. mhm. um. do you know any other special utensils? [addressed to the child.] I mean he knows what this does. I don't know that we've. named it. what is this? [dialogue with the child until line 265.] what is it? [vocalization]. what is it? do you know? [silence]. it's a... [child mumbling too.] pizza. pizza cutter! pizza cutter. yeah. [breathes]. um. [child making noise.] pots and pans. [child making noise.] something else. [addressed to the child.] have some corn?
[addressed to the child.] new xxx. oh! [addressed to the child.] did he play with any of our uh. tools or...? oh yeah he got this out. [a little toy noise in the middle.] [silence]. but didn't really play with it. he got out the. screwdriver. [silence]. not for eating. [dialogue with the child until line 281.] here come. yuck. let me show you. stick it in here. [toy noise.] [moving toys around]. oh he does like tools. [a little noise.] at home another favorite activity is um. [a little noise.] digging for wormies in the garden. oh I bet. so he gets his garden tools out. and um. we dig for wormies.
put them in the bucket. [moving toys around]. did he do any dressing with our dolls or...? no. [smacks her lips together before talks.] we didn't play with the dolls. um. are there any of these toys that look like something he'd have at home. [toy noise on "he'd."] [breathes]. well we have good night moon. we have some. kitcheny things. we don't have those soft things but we have. pots and pans and whisks and. mostly of play fruit. um. [clinician may be talking too] you've got a fruit and veggie. me hungry. [dialogue with the child until line 325.] you're hungry? [bad microphone sound.] do you need some more um. crackers? [microphone noise. bad line.] want more crackers. I think there's some more crackers. are they all gone? or are they here?
is there anything else that he really likes to play at home that? we didn't see here? [bad line. lots of microphone noise.] um. he just got for his birthday. and he loves it. I forget what they're called. they're these cool stacking. blocks they're. kind of like square. [child making some noise.] this it. shaped things. twit. Twiglets twig. [child making noise.] tw. [background noise.] I don't remember. but they're stalking things to make towers. he likes to make towers. [background noise.] um. but they're cooler than blocks because they. sit. law sit on each other if you use the right shape on top of the other one. because it's. you know. graduated. sizes.
just pretend please. [addressed to the child.] [breathes]. um he got a camera for his birthday. he loves to press buttons. anything with buttons. press press press. [mom is whispering.] ah! that's the other thing he loves. his buttons. but that sounds really cool. = = = childes/CHILDES_NA/NewmanRatner/Interviews/24/7183TB.cha = = = = = = childes/CHILDES_NA/NewmanRatner/Interviews/24/7534EM.cha = = = [vocalizes] you can scoop her some ice cream too. can you tell me like what you guys play with today? um we did food stuff. the whole time? yeah. did he look at any of the animals at all? um he was interested in taking the paper out but I don't think he was too interested in the animals. and he didn't look into the doll at all? Nu huh. is that kinda like the other sessions that he'd usually go for the food? um yeah we've been doing a lot of pretend food at home. um we also do a baby doll at home too. but yeah I think that's what we usually do. I think a lot of kids end up going to the food 'cause like the stove and 'cause its more like...
yeah. does he have like a kitchen at home? mhm. oh okay. yeah with like fake food and everything. aw yeah and then you said he has a doll at home? yeah. is it kinda like these dolls or more like a... um mean it's the same concept but it's a little bit smaller and it's a baby instead of like an older girl I guess. mhm. is that like when he was having the baby? right. yeah we got that at the same time so yeah. so I change Max's diaper and he changes his baby doll's diaper. aw. yeah. and then does he um does he have any animals like this at home or...? no not like this. we have some like stuffed animals. um he's not into stuffed animals and we have some like Duplo dinosaurs and things like that but um doesn't really play with 'em too much. does he try to you help in the kitchen too? yeah. yeah he'll pretend play with you know real stuff in the kitchen and then sometimes we bake together. mhm. do you think he recognized any of the foods like the particular foods you guys were playing with or...? I think so um yeah I mean we play pretend ice cream all the time and um... I think he recognized most of that not the beets but like... the cupcakes. and then does he eat any of these things or you guys eat any of these things? uh huh we'll do um ice cream and cupcakes and green beans and hot dogs um we don't really and hamburgers.
we don't really do lamb chops. are you all finished? and corn on the cob. did you see the corn on the cob too? he's obviously very rough and tumble as well. well now he's got a little brother to play with. yeah that worked out well. um has he seen any animals in real life like this? yeah we went to the zoo recently and they actually had a like little farm and he was really into the cow because it was so loud. um and the elephants so yeah and we have a dog and cat at home too. oh okay. yeah these particular toys like I think last time they were stuffed animals like theses were all different. mhm. a lot of these are more exotic so like sometimes maybe they see them at the zoo but like... yeah not everyday things yeah. mhm. yeah it's funny. was he interested in animals at other sessions like earlier sessions you guys did? maybe. or the dolls or anything? yeah I think before we did the doll a little bit and like the books he wasn't yeah we didn't do the books today. I forget about the animals though I can't remember. does he like to read with you at home with you a lot? yeah we do that before bedtime and he really likes books during playtime too. he seemed to like when you guys were reading earlier he seemed to be enjoying it a lot so... mhm yeah. does he have tools at home at all xxx? um yeah yeah. I don't know if they put them out but there were tools out before. oh okay yeah we do have kinda like fake um pretend tools and also daddy's real tools sometimes if they're safe enough we'll let him play with those too.
scoop on my head? thank you. is there anything else that was different you wanna tell me about or anything? um from last time? yeah since he's getting older. I don't know. I feel like he's fairly independent... right yeah he is able to play by himself sometimes. quite a bit and sometimes he'll tell us to go away so he can do it on his own. um yeah. okay alright well the last thing is just the rest of the book and we can go. okay. oh boy. I don't know if he's gonna wanna. yeah. [laughs]. = = = childes/CHILDES_NA/NewmanRatner/Interviews/24/5949DL.cha = = = = = = childes/CHILDES_NA/NewmanRatner/Interviews/24/6454MB.cha = = = = = = childes/CHILDES_NA/NewmanRatner/Interviews/24/7119CM.cha = = = = = = childes/CHILDES_NA/NewmanRatner/Interviews/24/4619WZ.cha = = = wow. so gee you guys. you know what? you can show Lauren the food. [toys rustling]. xxx show. xxx make something with. this is miss Lauren. hi Will!
just like Laura. she looks hungry. miss Laura. it's Laura not Lauren. okay. [silence]. did you wanna talk with me now? okay. okay. yeah. so he was here a year ago? mm hm. xxx twelve months. plus two. yeah. xxx he didn't have an eighteen month one. it's just a twelve month one? um he did. well I think he did. okay. we have just now recently added an eighteen month visit. okay. xxx eighteen. he was too old by the time. got it. okay. xxx if they would like to have one. so we are now having kids come in for eighteen monthers. okay. so it's just a play session at that.
but we wanna kind of hear the play. um was there anything he was especially interested in playing with today? he loves to play with food. he loves to make things. and he loves animals. so he doesn't really care about... apple xxx? that's not an apple! did you say he got a stove... we gave him a kitchen. a little Ikea kitchen. for his birthday last week. so he got a little... last night actually my husband put together the microwave part of the kitchen xxx. [toys rustling]. xxx stir. yeah. he loves to make things with me in the kitchen. so that's very fun for him. he loves to make things in the mixer. aw that sounds like fun! is there anything that um. are these foods that you think he recognizes? that he eats? which ones? [silence] um. probably ice cream for sure. ice cream cones. ah maybe peas? although he didn't seem to say what they were.
ah corn on the cob for sure. maybe some of the fruits? [toys rustling] um yeah I mean mushrooms. were there any that um he hadn't seen before? probably. I don't think he recognized tuna. probably didn't recognize [silence] xxx he recognize cheese and cupcakes. I doubt he would have recognized the kiwi. maybe he would've. pepper? xxx! it doesn't matter. he makes things whatever they want [laughing]. does he have some does he make food with it... um xxx he has a birthday cake. that's all we have. it's like um a little Melissa and Douglas wooden birthday cake that he puts together. and he likes to do. birthdays are very special for him. he makes birthday cakes out of legos. out of whatever. and he'll come and sing happy birthday. oo. so... good. but yeah that's the only play food that he has. I useta have a big candle in with my playdough just for that xxx. uhhuh uhhuh to put the birthday... yeah they they play with playdough um probably three or four times a day they ask to play with playdough so... [toys rustling] xxx playdough.
he also seemed interested in animal toys. yeah he really likes animals. yeah. I mean and he has he has some of these same kind of animals. he has the farm ones. ah. but I didn't recognize any of [toys rustling]. [toys rustling] um he doesn't seem to have any of these. he has like a cow. maybe he has a pig... a dog and a... were there a couple xxx you introduced him to today? oh yeah. I mean xxx ones I don't know if he wouldn't like. for example. um I don't know what he would've read. maybe he would've remembered the leopard from like Richard Scary books. mm hm. but I don't think the sea otter. don't have a sea otter. or I guess this is a baboon. I dunno what kinda animal it is. um [toys rustling] the swan... the words are familiar to him. the swan. but he still calls most birds that look kinda like ducks ducks. [laughing] [! toys rustling]. and then I don't know. he's familiar with these. oh okay.

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