无所谓 这家伙的天梯分大约5200到5300

Anyways, this guy's right around 5253 K MMR or so


Which is usually around the MMR that I hover at as well.


这对鸽来说 对你们可能也有点打击

What kind of sucks, for me and for you probably, nothing.


Not for Hearthstone, but for most people watching.


Harstem在玩人族的时候摸鱼

is that Hearthstone probably puts in the bare minimum when it comes to playing with Terran.


但他的人族天梯分也比鸽的虫族要高

And his Terran MMR is still higher than my Zerk MMR, even though, ugh.


I don't really want to talk about it, okay anyways


肯定是场人族内战 而鸽完全不知道会发生什么

So it's gonna be a Terran vs Terran. Now, I have no idea what to expect from this particular game.


鸽只知道它并不寻常 就知道这么多了

Just yeah, I know that it's not normal That's all I really know


鸽也对TheCowboy是否掌握人族的

Anyways, I'm also not entirely sure exactly how good the cowboy is when it comes to like


常规战略和建造顺序略有怀疑

standard Terran strategies and build orders and all that.


鸽解说了一场他和某位选手比较精彩的比赛

So I casted that excellent game between him and why


（备注：详见中秋节投稿：“烈焰红唇的人族冥场面！”）
鸽不想提前剧透 但那场贝克特工业确实好看

Well, I don't really want to spoil it, but there's a game on Beckett Industries that I casted recently as well where


而Harstem也是用的人族
（备注：详见中秋节投稿：“烈焰红唇的人族冥场面！”）

well where Hearthstone also played Terran, and


也确实说明他知道自己在干嘛
（备注：详见中秋节投稿：“烈焰红唇的人族冥场面！”）

and he certainly shows us that he knows what he's doing


I mean obviously the thing is right where you're good at one


鸽觉得战略游戏大概都这样

I guess this goes for for strategy games in general when you're


如果你能玩好一个 那其他的也没问题

But when you're good at like one strategy game, you're probably automatically gonna be good at like other strategy games as well.


而很多机制 尤其在星际2换种族的时候

and obviously a lot of the mechanics especially when like you're switching race in stock craft 2 they


是会延续的 例如你是个钻石虫族

They carry over like say for example, you're a Diamond League Zerg player and you


and you decide to pick up, I don't know, some protoss or something after not really ever playing it, you'll-


you'll probably be in diamond league before you know it you know what i mean like it's uh


你的热键 切屏乃至于决策

Yeah, it's true that the mechanics the way that like your hotkey stuff camera hotkeys and just decision-making all of


这些游戏机制都能很好的延续

all of that really carries over quite well


鸽之前玩过一段时间人族 玩的就很差

Personally, I kinda suck at playing Terran.


鸽的人族都是在随机里随到的

Played a little bit of Terran back in the day. I played a bunch of random. So that's where I got most of my Terran games in


鸽大概在两年前爬到了大师1

I did manage to climb all the way to master one. I think this was like two years ago though So it's it's been it's been quite some time


鸽觉得虫族的单位生产 鸽和虫族的运营机制很合得来

I've always, I've always kind of felt like Zerg as far as like production goes and like the The way that the macro cycle works with Zerg. I've always kind of felt like that works really really well for me


And the same for Protoss, Protoss also feels quite natural but


鸽的人族一旦有余钱 即使就余了500块

Like with Terran, as soon as I start flooding a little bit of money, so say for example, I've got 500 minerals in the bank.


产能不够的话 马上就会变成1500块 鸽无计可施

And I'm lacking a few production structures at that point. I'll be at like 1500 minerals before I know it and I cannot get it down


当然鸽应该建额外的出兵建筑

Obviously like you need to add on additional production starters and stuff, but with


但神族折跃点部队就能把钱花掉

With Protoss, it feels like you can do some additional warp-ins and usually you can spend your money that way.


虫族 只要多注卵再好好运营 钱最后还是会花完的

and with Zerk I don't know you just do a couple of better you know a couple of good queen injects and you do a little bit of a better macro job and eventually your money will be down but which


But with Terran, I usually start flooding, and then I flood more and more, I don't know.


也许鸽需要找个时间好好练练人族了

for some reason. Maybe at some point I'll have to spend a lot of time playing Terran as well.


还是要学习一下 鸽的人族就一直不太丝滑

well just to like get the hang of it but I've never I've never been particularly smooth at it like that not particularly fluid


鸽觉得自己人族运营很好的时候会发现

Whenever I feel like I'm macroing really well with Terran, I usually find myself queuing.


重工的出兵队列里排着4个单位 总之就很拉

queuing up like, you know, four units or something at a factory, which believe it or not is not ideal.


Anyways, so what exactly do we have here?


红方选择建造聚变芯体 还开出了非常早的3气

Um, we've got ourselves a fusion core coming up with a very very quick third gas geyser


So obviously the third gas geyser, two out of three right now, there we go.


3气意味着他要么选择常见的渡鸦开

The third gas geyser is a huge indication that he wants to go well for either a raven which would not be uncommon or


或者鉴于他已经放下的聚变芯体 出大和

Or a Battlecruiser, assuming there's a Fusion Core, I guess it's gonna be a Battlecruiser.


渡鸦在人族内战里当然好用

Raven's obviously very good in Terran vs Terran.


而蓝方的开局非常常规 没有什么吓人的

So far we have a very basic opener here actually from T-Operator, so nothing all too crazy here.


鸽猜大和开会很顺利 不然为什么造聚变芯体呢

So I guess the Battlecruiser start will work out well. I mean, why else would you go for a fusion core?


他确实需要300 同时他也在守跳台

He does need 300. He's also protecting the ramp, right?


点掉死神 不可能被侦察到的

There you go. Nah, there's no way. I'm not gonna be scouted.


Are we going to, are we going to go liberate a ranged?


鸽觉得他应该是先出一个解放迷惑对手

I thought maybe he wanted to start up the liberator there just to like show the opponent that something was in production


鸽也不太确定 他在攒400矿300气 然后就

I'm not sure. Like, he was saving up 400 minerals, 300 gas, and then...


这个黑点是什么？ 哇 它消失了

what is this black spot over here whoa whoa it disappeared


Was there something in front of the star?


鸽不知道这张地图的背景 不管了
[后期Lowko骂解说Lowko：战争迷雾而已 傻瓜]

Don't know where this this map takes place anyways


Third comments that are coming up. There's the-


鸽觉得他刚才应该是点错了

We made a... I think he must have misclicked or something.


他起手点了一个解放 在快完成的时候取消了

you made a liberator for a little bit and then cancelled it when it was like i don't know mostly done i think and


然后开始建造大和 真是天才 马上就会卡人口

and then started up a battlecruiser instead brilliant supply block as a follow-up as well


See this hurts my feelings a little bit because like


Harstem的人族天梯分比鸽的主族高

Hearthstone's Terran MMR is higher than my main MMR


鸽看他打人族还会卡人口 太伤心了

And I'm looking at what he's doing here. He's hitting supply blocks starting up. It makes me feel kind of bad You know like I basically


鸽觉得Harstem知道出大和非常贵

I'm assuming Hurston realizes that making better cruisers is very expensive.


想造一艘大和就得有一片满采的矿

Pretty sure in order to like produce one battlecruiser. You need like one fully mining base like


它们每艘要400矿300气 制造需要很长时间

Like, literally, they're 400 minerals, 300 gas each, they take forever to come out, so I guess...


所以它们是消耗你存款的好办法

So I guess that's something so if you have a bit of a bank, it's easy to drop it. There's


鸽99%确定 他没钱让第3个机场开工

um i'm like 99 sure he's not going to be able to produce out of the third starport


除非他开始攒钱 大和真的太贵了

Unless he starts saving up money, but like these BC's are so expensive. Yeah


看 他现在400矿300气了 可以开始同时造两艘

Yeah, look, so he's at 400 minerals right now, 300 gas, could start up another one.


那第一艘大和现在在干嘛？

What are we doing with the first one anyway?


鸽觉得双方开局都比较消极

we're just gonna okay i think we have a bit of a passive start it's it's


开局6分半 双方各自损失一个死神和一个枪兵

It's been six and a half minutes. It's only been a Reaper and a Marine each so far.


蓝方还蒙在鼓里 他什么都没看见

The operator at this point though is so blind. He has seen absolutely nothing.


在你做出对手正常比赛的假设时

Will you make the assumption your opponent is playing a normal game?


That's where things can go terribly wrong.


Oh, nice little bit of micro right there.


鸽就是这个意思 看到拖回去的导弹车了吧

That's what I mean, though. You see like that pullback right there on the cyclone? That's what I mean.


只有微操棱镜很久的人才能做到

That only happens to a man who's been microing warp prisms for a long time, right?


操作方式很类似 快速滑动鼠标

Like it's the same kind of movement where you have to like flick your mouse and like click


选择正确的单位朝正确的方向移动

Click the right unit and move it in the right direction.


Those are the types of things that I'm talking about where, you know, it...


He's producing 3-0-1s right now, but the 3rd is also running.


这就是鸽提到可以在种族之间通用的操作

Anyways, those are the kind of moves that I'm talking about that just gotta carry over from race to race


鸽有种感觉 不知道对不对

Okay, so I've got a feeling I don't know if this is the case right but


right but I've got a feeling that maybe someone in Twitch chat made the suggestion for Hearthstone to go mass battlecruiser


Because we're currently at three Battlecruisers already.


考虑到大和炮在升 又卡人口了

Considering that the Yamato Cannon is being upgraded. Oh my god another supply block


考虑到大和炮在升以及3个科技挂件的机场

Considering the amount of canon is being upgraded and the fact that like, you know, there's three star ports right now with tech labs


又朝对手主基地扫了一把雷达

So scan again in the side of the main base.


到现在为止 蓝方什么都没有看到 就闷头运营

T operator has still not seen anything he's just macroing up


鸽觉得现在往对面家里飘4艘大和就能赢了

Honestly, I feel like the four better cruisers can go across the map right now and just win the game.


鸽非常确定如果折跃到这个位置

Am pretty certain that if we just teleport right over here


蓝方现在能拉出的部队不多

There's not that much that the Terran operator can pull off, right?


还有三艘大和马上造好 至少有一艘

There's three more BCs about to spawn, or at least one.


锁的不错 地上还有些枪兵

Okay, yeah, I guess the interference matrix is pretty good. There's still a few Marines available to


一架渡鸦没了 第二架还能苟活

One raven goes down, second raven will live for the time being.


Ah, you know what, yeah, that interference matrix is absolutely massive.


红方需要军械库升级了 能减小游戏难度

I would love to see some armory upgrades actually here as well for the cowboy. It would make the game a little bit easier to play.


科普一下 星际2的攻防影响很大

Upgrades in StarCraft 2 are, for those of you unfamiliar, absolutely massive, especially


especially for units that fight and shoot like very quickly.


机制如下 假设单位基础伤害为5

So basically every... so the way it works right is that like say the base damage of unit is five


每一级攻击会提升1点伤害 两攻就是加2

Every single upgrade adds plus like one to to the damage output right or if you have plus two with that like plus two so


视单位的射速而定 鸽想讲的点是

So it kind of depends on the unit, but basically what I'm trying to get at with like the...


大和的射速非常快 每一发弹

Like the battlecruiser it fires super quickly every single one of those little bullets


每一发弹都会加一伤害 累加起来非常恐怖

Okay, every single one of those little bullets will deal plus one more damage, which adds up extremely quickly.


蓝方见过对手的大和舰队了

Alright, so the operator at this point has seen that the opponent is going for Battlecruisers.


He's added on a couple of missile turrets inside.


inside of the main base we have six of them in total so four ten of them in total so


目前一共建了14座 如果鸽没数错的话

14 missile turrets here so far, if I'm not mistaken.


鸽是数学天才啊 等一下 我数错了吗？


妈个鸡 那是个感应塔 圆回来了

No, that was a censored. Okay. That was a sense time. There you go. Save myself


蓝方现在要做的就是运营出天地

Apparently what T-Operator is gonna do is just macro his way out of here, so he's


So he's got to go for some Viking upgrades. He's got to go for plus two plus two


同时在开地图三点钟方向的矿

And he's gonna try and secure another expansion right here at the, what is this, like the three o'clock position on the map


别啊 不要在枪兵射程内交战

Bub-bub-bub-bub-bub-bub, no not in mid, oh my god, not inside of freaking marine range!


Alright, so two VCs have gone down so far.


鸽不清楚为什么要在枪兵射程内交战

I don't know why we did that in the range of the Marines right there, but fair enough.


神族玩家 鸽认为可以这么叫他

Yeah, so every single base that captured right here by the protoss player, I guess is what we'll call them


所扩张的每一片矿区都是先下气

Every single base that's being captured is first off acquiring the gases


大和是400矿300气 它们太耗气了 你会剩很多矿

So BC's, 400 Minerals, 300 Gas, they're super gas heavy. You'll pretty much always find yourself with a ton of Minerals left over.


红方人口快满了 但部队不多

Honestly, we're currently getting to a mixed out army right here and there's really not that much.


怎么回事 为什么有将近一百个农民（致敬大哥？）

There's 90 in nine, what the? Why are we at a hundred workers? Almost.


I guess this is a, uh, a Zorg-y way of playing Terran, huh?


鸽期待蓝方的进攻 但地面部队很难对付这么多大和

so i would have loved to see some actual attacks here by t operator the problem is the way you go up against this many battle cruisers


枪兵会被打爆 大和升级完攻击后还会更惨

A ground-based army is really not gonna cut it like Marines are gonna get absolutely shredded Especially once these these bad boys finish up some of their upgrades


大和的空对地能力优异 但空对空不好

So battlecruisers have fantastic air-to-ground, but their air-to-air is Yeah, significantly worse


所以鸽希望看见更多的渡鸦和维京

So I wouldn't mind seeing more Ravens and more Vikings and everything.


他现在在补维京 数量已经和大和一样多了

I mean, he's making quite a lot of Vikings. It's just that at this point, there's as many Vikings as battlecruisers.


Look at the missile turret. The missile turret ring is...


导弹塔海挺麻烦 鸽觉得蓝方只想运营

Quite significant. I think T-Operator just wants to macro.


[哼歌] 空军2攻立刻续上 解放射程也在升级

Okay plus two starts up right away liberator ranged also comes up advanced ballistics


鸽说的是科维德反应堆 你这个自动翻译丈育bot

I said Corvette Reactor, YouTube, uh, ahem, automated bots.


CORVID-就是游戏里的一项升级 行吧

Corvette core. It's an upgrade in the game. Okay, please


油管别关这个视频盈利 感谢配合


There are a few siege tanks in the back.


当然 陷入深黑幻想后大和就不能折跃了

Obviously, you can't technically jump when you have the interference matrix on you.


鸽感觉刚才有枪兵在 应该是完胜的

Honestly though, yeah, it felt to me like the Marines were winning that battle, but


然而眨眼功夫 舰队一动 枪兵就蒸发了

all of a sudden you know when the fleet moved the marines disappeared


牺牲了多少好兄弟 23个

How many marines just died? Yeah, 23, don't worry.


There weren't like a ton in the first place, but...


但鸽感觉应该会剩一些好兄弟在地面补刀

It felt to me like the Marines should have been left over there still gutting everything down and you don't


稍不注意就蒸发了 这几个遭遇战真的是

and you don't pay attention for a second and they just disappear these are the kind of battles that are just


不是吧 你的机枪兵都死光了？

Really? Okay, the SUVs are pulled to the front, I guess.


说实话 当你的舰队已经成型之后

Honestly, like when you have this many battlecruisers


每次一轮大和炮总是能打到东西的

Every single time your yamato cannon comes off cooldown you basically guarantee to kill on something, right?


看来是打算修完大和直接前线拍防空？

I guess after repairing, going for a line of missile turrets?


甚至家里拖了更多的SCV

Or actually no, he pulled additional SCVs.


难道是要拉一条要塞长城？

Are we going to do a planetary contain? Is that the idea?


所以这就是你爆100个农民的理由

I guess that's one advantage of building a hundred workers.


这样可以避免被维京追击了

I guess that's one way to make sure you don't get chased by the Vikings anymore.


Don't think that this is going to happen right here on the high ground though.


虽然我们的牛仔先生已经在这儿拍了一个基地

Although the cowboy did already finish another command center over there.


There's orbital commands left, right, and center.


生化部队出动 一个坦克成功劝退

Okay, here comes the Bio Army once again. There's one Siege Tank over there in the back trying to get some work done.


每次大和炮穿过地图 肯定有些单位头顶“死”字了

Every single time you see a Yamato Cannon flying across the screen, it's something dying.


维京在游戏里也算不上特别贵的兵种

And vikings? I mean, they're not the most expensive unit in the game.


行吧 步兵3攻3防马上升级完毕


鸽感觉打不过这么多舰队啊


光用枪兵打不过这么多大和吧

I don't know like I'm assuming at least you cannot kill this many battlecruisers with just Marines


Unless you have a lot of them, but this is like


也许100多个好兄弟可以拿下

Maybe if you have a hundred marines or so.


但你的对手也可以后排摆几个坦克啥的

But obviously the opponent can always add on like a round of siege tanks at home and stuff and it's I don't know


这基地还是掉了 本来能飞走的

That base did end up going down. Pretty sure it could have been lifted, but...


不要忘记我们的牛仔先生是神族玩家

This is a Produs player, we're looking at OBS3.


所以多线操作可能会拉一点


撤离战场了 虽然也没跑多远

Oh, we're getting out of there. Not too far, but we're getting out of there.


7个大和同时生产？ 你在逗我嘛

Seven Battlecruiser production? Are you kidding me right now?


打到现在 场面已经控制不住了

At this point, it's kind of out of control though.


红唇现在占领了地图上每一片矿

Because Hearthstone has taken every base on the map.


至少是大部分 他也试过采这片矿

Well, at least most of them anyway, he tried taking this one, but...


TOperator也没法阻止对面不停的集结部队

It's going to be very difficult for T-Operator to prevent this from now, you know, maxing out over and over and over again.


空军3攻已经在升了 甚至下了第3个VA

And we're now coming up at plus three upgrades, too There's a third armory coming up so I


可能是转型坦克了 又加了5个重工

So I guess indeed that siege tank transition or something. Yeah, there's five additional factories coming up


that siege tank transition is not a terrible idea.


鸽觉得这绝对是个“蠢招”了

I think this qualifies for stupid stuff, yeah.


TOperator开局假设对手是常规开局

So T-Operator in this game made the assumption that the opponent would be playing standard, right?


常规开局之所以是常规是因为他们很好用

Because the standard is the standard for a reason. It's very good


你做出假设 但对手选择了极端开局时

Turns out that when you make that assumption and your opponent displays something absolutely on the extreme end of things


你得及时侦查避免猜错 免得场面控制不住

You might need to know that before it gets underway, right? Before it gets out of control, Rotter.


在失控前尽早看穿对手开局

You can figure it out before it gets, uh, crazy.


看比赛 他正在慢慢推进 银行里有上千存款

Anyways, he's slow pushing forward, he still has himself a ton of minerals, he's...


鸽感觉维京得顶在前面 风筝对面的大和

Think you need to move the Vikings like further forward man. I like shoot pot shots at him like one


草 这场面鸽真没见过 像极了小火车

I've never seen this before. It's like a train.


这是鸽见过的最奇怪的人族单位了

That is the strangest terror unit I've ever seen in my life.


这下鸽倒是选好视频封面了

Well, at least I've got my YouTube thumbnail ready to go.


Oh my god, well they kill our command center really quickly.


Okay, here once again are the Yamato cannons.


一些雷神也加入了战场 大部分开了冲击模式

A couple of Thors now added into the mix too with their high impact mode, at least the majority of them.


VCs heading on over to watch the main base of the Terran player in blue however


However, there's a ton of missile turrets in that area of the map.


I actually think the Thors are not a bad idea at all.


雷神对空射程是超远的11 而且可以无视这些防空

at all. Thor's have so much range, they have like 11 range and obviously they don't really care about the missile turrets here that the Cowboy is putting up.


Thor's actually make a lot of sense here


鸽知道你可能正忙着正面啥的

I know you're probably busy doing other things, but...


没错 雷神的冲击模式有11对空射程

Yeah, so Thors with their high impact mode have 11 ranged with


这让他们对抗大和群十分强大 鸽也不确定

which makes them uh i think a pretty formidable choice against mass bc i think i don't know


Kind of depends as well on like where the fight happens I suppose


好吧 眨眼间钢铁舰队损失惨重

Okay, ooh now all of a sudden the battlecruiser fleet is dying very quickly though. Yeah, okay


由于刚才他已经使用过折跃跳进了对方主矿

Obviously, he decided to jump into the main base of the player in blue, meaning...


meaning that right now a technical jump is off cooldown.


这一局死了26个大和 太逗了

26 Battlecruisers have gone down in this game.


不用悲伤 还有3艘大和正在建造中

Don't be sad and dull about it because there's three or more on the production tab and


有意思的是 甚至不算很劣势

What's interesting about this though is that this is this is not even working terribly.


刚才舰队坠机的主要原因 完全是决策上的问题

Like the main reason why the battlecruisers died right there is because of like decision-making right?


鸽可以想象 牛仔先生是第一次爆这么多舰队

I can't imagine. This is the first time that the cowboy is playing this heavy on on the on the battle cruisers


26个大和里至少13艘是能逃掉的

Could have definitely prevented, I would say, 13 out of 26 from going down there.


I mean that would have made a huge difference, right?


现在战场的主动权又回到了TOperator

Right now, it is, once again, a pretty good situation here for T-Operator, I'm pretty sure.


我的老鸽 这些雷神伤害爆炸

Oh, the Thors though! Oh my god, the Thors!


模式A 就是蓝色正在使用的

There's a Tecmo 8 which is the one that the blue ones are in right now


还有模式B 能看出单位外形不太一样

now and then there's a tech mode B you know how like or you see how like the the unit looks a little bit different


Basically, this one is very good against big single targets


对于叠在一起的维京 溅射模式的输出将十分可怕

So, against Vikings that are stacked up together, these Thors are EXTREMELY POWERFUL!


他得散一下了 不然部队会瞬间蒸发

Oh my god, he needs to split. Well, if he doesn't, he's gonna lose a lot of more- a lot more of his stuff.


不管咋说 感觉好像也是单纯的比数量

eat away i wonder if it's just a numbers game though because at this point isn't there


Emm 鸽刚提到维京很多 该落地了

Mmm, I say that there's a lot of Vikings. I guess you have to lend them right now to


now that all of the battle cruisers are gone? Okay.


Yep, landed Vikings. Not a bad idea at all.


看来蓝色方的部队数量更胜一筹

Was gonna say it seems like a numbers game where the blue player just has more stuff


7个大和再次同时出现在建造栏中

Seven additional production or a better cruisers right there going up in the production tab


只有一架坦克 在要塞射程外攻城

Only a single siege tank right here ready to outrange that planetary fortress.


I don't think, yeah, no, I don't think you can really fight that.


别想不开啊 人生还很美好

Don't do it. You have so much to live for


看来是要用坦克慢慢推进了 行吧

It's that we're gonna slow push the siege tank. Fair enough.


得花点时间了 足够这些大和造好了

Yeah, it's gonna take a little while It's gonna take about as long as a battlecruiser takes to produce


虽然我们的牛仔先生之前存有巨款

So even though the cowboy had a massive bank earlier and obviously


而且采矿比之前更欢 即使这样存款也快用光了

obviously he's been mining a ton more. All of that bank is mostly gone right now.


雷神带着加富林溅射弹再次登场

Here come the Thors once again with their Javelin Missiles.


说实话 这基地其实都不是很重要

Okay, I don't think this base is even that important to be honest


Couple additional Ravens now also coming up once again for the Terran Operator


Yeah, this is forcing a move though, right? This is forcing a move.


There's still 130 army supply right here for T operator


他出了不少生化部队 运营也不错

He's producing a lot of bio stuff. He's actually got a really nice setup right now.


鸽开始以为他会运营过头 看来头脑很清醒

I was a little bit concerned that he was just going to get walked over, but, um... No, he knows what he's doing.


even though i think the scouting could have been a little bit better


来嘞来嘞 生化部队扎针冲向舰队

Oh, here we go, Bio-Army moving forward as well under the Battlecruisers once again.


反护甲飞弹全中 nice

Anti-armor missile also used which is really nice, you know


He doesn't want to fight in range of the Planetary here, but...


但其实护甲削弱后 好兄弟们能有更高的输出

but Anti-Armor Missile basically makes all of those marines deal more damage to all of the units affected by it.


枪兵光头医疗组合 这组合狠不戳

Marine, Marauder, Medivac, once again, not a terrible decision.


至少所有的机械化攻防 或者说VA攻防是都已升级

We have basically all of the mech upgrades, well at least all of the armor upgrades for mech anyways.


如果想雷神切换模式更快点 还可以升级智能伺服器

Do you guys smart servos here just so you can switch the Thors faster?


要开战吗 我们看一下资源损失对比

Okay, so if you look right here at oh, are we gonna fight? Okay, if you look right here at resources lost, yeah


Yeah, this is kind of what I was expecting.


红唇的战损比对手要高太多了

Harstem has lost way more here than his opponent.


如果打成了对半分地图的局势 鸽之前也说过无数次

So, if it's gonna be a split map scenario, I mean, I've said this many times before...


The player that's trading more efficiently should come out ahead.


看看这些光头 造成了成吨的伤害

Look at the Marauders here as well, by the way. The Marauders getting quite a lot of work done all of a su-


突然又变成了坦克雷神的组合了 很难突破

All of a sudden we have a Thor siege tank based army though, so a little difficult to pull through.


北侧还有几艘大和 打掉一片基地

Plus, there's still these better cruisers up north that ended up taking down a base.


啊这 蓝色要彻底放弃左下了吗？

Not a lot of... oh my god, are we just giving this all up? Oof.


Are we all army hotkeying right here to the top right-hand corner?


就为了见证一群大和瞬间折跃吗？

Only for these battlecruisers to then like teleport away?


为了仁义还要送一个渡鸦吗？

Are we giving them a raven right here just for good measure?


对吧 现在他们可以和南边的坦克雷神集合了

Yep, look now they've joined in with the siege tanks as well as the Thors down south


红唇现在优势很大了 继续推进

Fantastic situation right here for Harston, pushing forward.


经历数年磨炼 终于把对手全都骗到了地图右上角

Baiting his opponent to go all the way to the top right-hand corner. Years of practice.


好的吧 主矿飘过几个维京 感觉逛的有点太久了

A couple of vikings popped out of the main base, although I think he might be overstaying his welcome though.


though yeah there's not that many hit points remaining on a lot of these units that


然而枪兵全都聚团在一起 坦克已经杀疯了

As that being said, Siege Tanks in the back having an absolute field day with those Marines stacked up on top of each other.


Okay, here come some more reinforcements


突然这游戏局势又扳回来了 明明刚才还是势均力敌的

And all of a sudden, even though this game was relatively even a couple of minutes ago.


我们的牛仔先生取得了胜利


我希望老鸽们喜欢这期视频

Alrighty, I hope you enjoyed watching this video.


动一动小手就行 留下一个三连

If you did make sure to hit that like button down below it takes about a second


说不定这期视频就会被小破站的算法推荐

but maybe this video will get picked up by the YouTube algorithm.


如果你看的很尽兴 记得点一波关注

If you really enjoyed it, consider hitting the subscribe button as well, that way


这样可以及时收到更新提醒

That way you get notified as soon as future videos go life before


好的感谢观看 祝大家过的愉快 笑口常开

Before now, thanks for watching. Have a great day. Don't forget to smile.


And I'll see you once again in the next one.


今天鸽带来的是星际2的一场PVT的职业比赛

Today it is time for a professional match of StarCraft 2 and what I've got for you is a Terran versus Protoss where...


而我们所处的地图是永恒帝国

where we find ourselves on the map Eternal Empire.


出生在左上角的正在操控 红方scv的

Spawning here in the bottom left-hand corner, playing with the Red Terran SCVs.


是一名一直都很顶尖的人族选手

This man is one of the most successful and one of the most popular Terran players of all time.


他来自于南韩 但是他却人称“美国队长”

He's from South Korea, but his nickname is Captain America.


我们正在注视的正是Polt

We're looking inside of the main base of Polt.


他的对手是操作蓝方神族探机的选手

his opponent in the opposite corner with the blue protoss pieces he's


He's from the greatest country in the world, although I might


他来自鸽认为世界上最棒的国家 荷兰

I might be a little bit biased. He's from the Netherlands and-


所以他叫了一个非常荷兰的名字 Harstem


那些对Polt好奇的观众朋友们 听鸽说

Now, for those of you curious, I always loved the port story.


在早期的主流星际二比赛中值得一提的

Basically, back in the early days of Stock Craft 2.


All of the premier tournaments, all of the tournaments that really meant something, were won by people from South Korea.


尽管现在的差距没有鸽说的那么夸张了

And despite the gap being a lot closer these days. I mean, there's no


但是毋庸置疑 韩国人的星际还是最厉害的

there's no denying that the Koreans are still the best at StarCraft.


鸽可能会花一整个视频的时间来解释这些

Now, I could probably dedicate an entire video to that. It's probably...


其中鸽认为可能有一些文化或是其他的因素

It's probably mostly to do with like culture and all of that, but...


虽然非韩选手已经有很大进步

While the non-koreans are doing much better on


但韩国的职业选手依旧平均水平很高

On average, the Korean pros are still significantly better.


在一段时期 尤其是早期的星际

Now, at the time, especially in the early days of StarCraft, the


韩国人真的是占领了整个星际 没错吧

The Koreans were just absolutely dominating, right?


Polt是为数不多的能流利说英语的韩国选手

A port was one of the few Koreans that could speak fluent English because


因为他曾经在美国呆过一段时间

because he actually lived over in the United States of America.


鸽相信他是在美国的某个大学留学

Because I believe he studied there at a certain university.


美国粉丝在他赢了几场美国 区 的比赛之后

the American fans after he won a bunch of tournaments in the USA very quickly.


他还是以“美国队长”之名为人所知到现在

To this date, he's still known as Captain America.


美国人直接把他当作了他们的一员

The Americans claimed him as one of their own.


不能怪他们 因为这个人的比赛真的值得一看

and I can't blame him because this man is an absolute blast to watch.


这场比赛大概是一个半星期以前的

So this game was played about a week or so ago during...


during IEM Katowice, about a week and a half at this point.


A few of you reached out on Twitter and mentioned that


这真是一场不看后悔一辈子的比赛

that if I did not see this game live, I should...


鸽真的应该去解说一下这场

I should really go ahead and cast it because of


因为这很明显是近期的一场史诗般的PVT比赛

because apparently it's one of the most epic TVPs that's been played recently.


鸽也不知道接下来会发生什么


But I'm sure we will figure it out together


very standard opener here from both players and


这两个人也因他们非常直接的运营而闻名

Both of these guys are very well known for displaying that super straightforward macro game


如果他们两个采用一些非常规的战术

I would be, I would be surprised if he...


We see something very out of the ordinary here.


好了 Harstem会是什么开局呢

Now what kind of opener will it be from Hearthstone?


光看他这里存气 并且不急着开门

I'm judging by the fact that he's saving up gas. He's not starting up Warp Gauge yet, I think.


鸽就能猜出他是星门开 哦是这样的

I think this has to be a Stargate opener and indeed there it is


星门开在了神族基地的后面

inside of the main base right here of the Protoss.


没有厚颜无耻的拍下那些干扰对手的水晶


He's nothing all too aggressive and really


看来这两个选手都喜欢安稳运营

And really like both of these guys love playing the macro game


如果这俩人在前期出了一些不一样的开局

so i'll be surprised if we're going to be seeing any variety here


这是polt的第一个死神

Here's the Reaper from Polt, the very first one.


实际上应该也是唯一一个死神

Actually, it's gonna just be a single one he's


他上去侦察了一下是不是使徒开

He's scouting around a little bit. Sees indeed that it was an adept first.


There's nothing too strange here either.


在这个节点 大多数韩国选手都会

Most of the Koreans pros actually at this point


They like to wall off at the top of the ramp to try and get to the other side of the ramp.


防止死神跳上来 但是这张地图不好这么做

Try and prevent like this this Reaper from getting in although on this map. It's a little bit tricky to do


Harstem依然完美防住了对手的侦察

as Hearthstone still managed to deny that scout absolutely brilliantly.


但是现在的局势并不能决定全局


这里人族的玩家需要小心一点

But the Terran player has to be a little bit careful, right?


If it's going to be an Oracle first, which I assume it will be.


人族玩家需要采取点措施来防住

Something that can deal a lot of damage.


So he has to make sure that he's gonna be safe


鸽们可以看见这里还拍下来一个星港

Widowmine is coming up. We see a starport here already coming up as well.


and a couple of marines are being produced, two at a time.


So I think he should be okay as long as he


It positions all of those units properly


接下来就将是勾心斗角的时刻了

Other times there's this nice little mind game especially


尤其是看他下面会把寡妇雷埋在哪

Especially with the widow mine as to where you want to burrow it


有些玩家 喜欢下在气矿的后面

Some players like to burrow it right over here behind like the refinery


这样先知第一时间会看不见他

refinery, so the Oracle can't see it when it first flies in.


Polt决定把他下在自己主矿的边缘的一角

Report is just gonna put it right out in the open at the very edge of his main base


有一段时间 人族玩家喜欢让地雷走到这里

Actually for a while we saw Terran players like walking to Widowmane


埋在这样一个非常规的点位上

The widow mine out here and put it in like a really unorthodox spot


Just because it was the craziest mind game


鸽相信其他比赛也会有很多人会这么打的

I think that would probably happen again if


如果这张地图接下来还在年度地图池里面的话

if this map would still be in the map pool about a year or so from now.


from now it's this little game that's being played


simultaneously while everything else is going on as well.


Harstem选择出两个使徒

Well, now Harstem did decide to actually go for the double adepts.


这两个使徒是可以对人族造成很大的伤害的

So these adapts actually can do quite a bit of damage


鸽想他应该是想等先知进主矿再行动

I think he's gonna wait until that oracle commits inside of the main base and since


因为现在寡妇雷没有保护着基地

And since the Widowmite is not protecting the main, this


所以这个先知完全可以....


这就是鸽说的那个刁钻的位置


寡妇雷一直在这里保护着基地

The widow mine was not quite protecting the main but


然后 哦 这里还有另一个


然后这颗雷 会断了先知回去的路


确保了先知不会对自己的主矿造成很大的损失

making sure that the Oracle cannot deal that much damage.


Polt这边下了一个聚变芯体

is there's a fusion core coming up from Mr. Polt.


可能是要升级解放者的射程

I mean it could be liberator ranged upgrade


That there's already a tech lab right here on that star port


I think it has to be a better Cruiser opener.


A better Cruiser Opener versus... versus Protoss?


一个大和400矿300气


他在存钱 一定是要速大和


it is going to be a better cruiser opener.


而现在Harstem还不知道隐藏在左下角的芯核

Now Harstem at this point doesn't know about the fusion core in the bottom left-hand corner, you know


He knows that there was a widow mine here.


他现在可能觉得对面是女妖开？

He probably assumes it's gonna be a banshee


这可能也是为什么他用凤凰侦察

So that's why he's probably checking here with Phoenix's not


因为他并没有担心对面的战术

is not really all too worried about anything.


然而一个运输机拿着之前的两颗雷

Already though, there's one Medivac right now on the other side of the map


已经出现在地图的另一边了

map with those two Widow mines from earlier.


寡妇雷兄弟 要毁灭他们看到的一切了

The Widow Bros. trying to get done whatever they can.


但这更多的也只是争取时间


现在人族这边 大多数情况下大和开

time. Now, normally better cruiser openers...


primarily cuz cuz protoss has a lot of anti-air right like


只有虫族这边的防空相对少

Like Zork doesn't have a lot of anti-air so


哦 天哪 咱们先把话放一放

Well, oh my god, hold that thought because these


鸽真的想说这一开始看起来


是那种雷扔到你家都不会拖农民的情况

this looked initially like one of those moments where you you are better off not pulling the boys


大多数这种情况都是很惨的


如果神族玩家能把两颗雷打掉

and if you can get both of the mines as well actually it's a pretty good spot for the uh


看起来凤凰也可以把这个运输机解决掉

Looks like the phoenixes won't be able to shoot down this medivac here as well, but it's


鸽连巨像都没有看见（口误）


现在都没有一个巨（巨像 口误了）


没有一个 哦哦是 大和舰


大多数情况人族不会大和开

Cruiser. Now, normally, we don't see better Cruiser openers that much because


因为神族的对空会有很多选择

because protoss players have so many options when it comes to anti-air


寡妇雷在主基地这边造成了一些伤害

Widowmine actually gets a little bit more damage right there in the main base.


人族选手折跃了吗 哦哦 开始了

Did he jump it across? Oh, yeah, he certainly did here


did. Here it is inside of the main base.


Now, there are a couple phoenixes already, right?


三个凤凰 三个真的够打一架大和吗？

Is three phoenixes enough to properly deal with this?


Here's those three phoenixes returning back home of four


然后马上就会有第四个凤凰来帮助他们

fourth one will be joining them as well.


鸽不认为这些凤凰可以把大和干掉

I don't think three phoenixes is gonna cut it


鸽是说 他们可以对大和造成伤害

I mean, they can take some shield damage, I suppose, yeah.


啊 就是这样 Harstem好细节

Yeah, there we go. Nice little bit of micro from Harstem.


尝试去甩这个大和 消耗他的血量

Trying to just you know soften up this battlecruiser


大和也刚好不能离开这个位置

The thing is though, the Battlecruiser can't really leave this position either.


因为如果你动了的话 鸡猎会打到你

Because well if it leaves the stalkers will be able to catch up, right?


哈 终于 第二个折跃马上就cd好了

Huh, eventually though, Tactical Jump will come off cooldown again but


这架大和已经拿下十个单位消灭了

But for now this battlecruiser already has 10 kills under its belt


鸽不知道神族现在会不会出虚空

I wonder if you want to go for like a Void Ray at this moment.


鸽不认为虚空是个很坏的选择

I think a Void Ray would not be a terrible idea, but...


Harstem可以通过更快拖农民

Actually could have prevented most of these probe losses as it is just


is just by pulling the workers a little bit quicker.


It's just so uncommon to see a better cruiser in this matchup.


鸽觉得他现在已经有足够的凤凰来对付大和了？

But I feel like by the time he's got enough phoenixes to like deal with the better cruiser


这个大和的战术折跃还在cd

This better cruiser will have technical jump off cool


哦 看看人族是怎么处理这些凤凰的

cooldown look how long it takes these units


OMG 他选择再送过来一架大和

Oh my god, he just sends in the second one as well


鸽觉得Harstem你现在可必须要小心一下了

Uh, I think you have to start respecting this a little bit more, Hearthstone.


在这边多放几个眼线是不错的选择

Putting it on idle there, not a bad idea, but...


对 神族要做的就是赶紧跟上大和

uh... yeah what exactly are you going to do is a follow-up


另一边 polt这边也在运营着

Now I love this by the way, Poped in the meantime obviously is macroing behind this


他也正在给自己造第三架大和

He's getting himself a third of better cruiser to


如果你失误把这俩大和丢了

me because if you were to lose both of the BCs right to a misplay.


Right or or say there's like a a couple of void rays at this point


你来不及把这俩大和送回家

this point it all of a sudden show up you can't teleport these better cruisers like all the way home


You're just gonna lose the game straight up because


因为神族将会用很多的单位来反打你

because promos is just going to counter attack with an awful lot of units.


与此同时 Harstem又拍下来五个BG

Already we do have five additional gateways coming up, I think.


鸽觉得这正是Harstem下一步要做的

I think that's exactly what hearthstone is planning on doing


他可能想把这俩大和直接打下来

He probably wants to shut these battlecruisers out of the sky and


然后从地图的这边F2A 一波

and then go for an all-out assault on the other side of the map while


可能吧 咱们马上就知道了


这真的是一个很奇怪的打法了


神族不打算把这些兵派到别的地方去了

Because Protoss isn't, like, willing to now send these units anywhere else, obviously.


来了来了 这两架大和的cd一个都没好

Here we go, tactical jump not yet off cooldown in one of these


他们 他们就待在这里和他们打了

But they just they just tickle that it's


这就像看着哨兵打维京或是什么的一样

It's like it's like watching a sentry attack a Viking or something


在这个节点出巨像有什么用么？

Well, how did a colossi actually work at this point in the game? Well...


那个集结点会让巨像跑半个地图的


两架大和的折跃CD都好了

Um, better cruisers though have technical jump available right now they can...


他们可以在任何一秒内离开


不过鸽喜欢他这里正在进行的大和炮的升级

But um, I kind of like the idea of going for the weapon refit here because


因为这毕竟是一个速大和开局

because since this is indeed a better cruiser opener


哇 这个大和看起来要送了

Well, this battlecruiser will likely end up going down, I think.


因为这毕竟是一个大和开局......

Since it is indeed a better cruiser opener, well


哦 真假的 一堆凤凰打不过一个大和？

Well, will it? Oh my god, dude. Phoenix's really suck against better cruisers


因为这是一个大和开局 你..你可以

Uh, since it is a Battlecruiser, or Colossal Opener, rather, the...


很容易用大和炮就把巨像解决掉 没错吧？

The Battlecruisers can just like, Yamato Cannon down the Colossi, right?


同时 空军一攻马上也要好了

plus one we'll be finishing up here in just a second by the way that will make that


这会大幅增强凤凰的战斗力

will make these Phoenix's significantly better.


这些凤凰每次射出两发中的每一发攻击

means that both of these shots that a phoenix does every single time that it attacks will


And that really does add up very quickly.


但这些战巡可以轻松的跑路

But I mean these battlecruisers can just get out pretty easily


This is kind of insane actually we don't


我们几乎看不见PVT人族还速大和的


哇 这个大和 鸽觉得这架跑不掉了

I kind of like it while this one I'm afraid it's gonna not lift to tell the tale


it's gonna still get one unit at the very least though


These better cruises actually have been really nice.


现在 我们看下刚刚的战损

So wait, how much damage has been done up to this point?


很明显 刚刚这波略微拖慢了人族的经济

Now obviously he did have to like slow down his own economy a little bit


没错 我们可以看见他四矿还没好

All right, we don't see a fourth base done yet here for Polt, but it's gonna...


他的主力部队也是非常主流的

And he's just following this up with a pretty normal unit composition as well just


光头 枪兵 运输机 坦克

good old Marine Marauder Medivac tank, right?


如果大和能把这些巨像秒了

Now, if you can yamato cannon down these colossi...


人族应该就可以莽一波了吧？

Isn't this like just a straight steamroll ahead for Terran?


神族需要的可能是风暴这样的单位

what protoss needs is like i don't know like tempest or something like that right like


可以在远距离把这些大和打掉

Like just a more beefy unit that can shoot at those battle cruisers from a distance because the


因为大和舰的攻击距离很短

because the range from BCs really is very low.


But you can't really go for Tempest until you're


恐怕至少需要四矿满采的经济

until you get at least I would say like four base economy up


所以 鸽觉得神族可以考虑现在转型了

So you can start thinking about that switch right about right now.


But honestly though in the grand scheme of things


双方的微操都十分有压迫力

like both players have just been macroing really aggressively.


神族这边的科技（冲锋）升级马上好

Huh, yeah, it's gonna finish up here in just a sec. I was gonna say


I didn't see it down on the production tab, but that's just-


couple of zealots actually being warped in apparently in the bottom right hand corner


但是大和炮可以把这些巨像打掉吗

But can't you just Yamato Cannon down the Colossi?


They don't have ranged yet either by the way like


Harstem感觉每一步都晚了一步

Like everything everything here has been slown down so much for hearthstone


And there it is, by the way, one of the better cruisers.


Managed to manage to connect right there with one of those laser boys and well


and i've got a feeling with these siege tanks getting into a really good spot right now


同时 Harstem也留了一手

Already they'll harsh them secured himself another


在地图的右边又开了一片矿

another base right here on the right-hand side.


这片矿人族也要跑很远来打


看起来这波叉叉也要把家掏了

looks like the zealots actually were also cleaned up and


这个棱镜也没有起到什么作用

Prism won't be able to get too much done either as it


Better Cruises though, apparently still feeling brave.


只要大和的折跃cd是好的

As long as you have technical jump off cooldown, you can do it.


You can just really get aggressive quite easily.


这就让神族所有的兵都往回家走吗

it's just gonna like spark the entire protoss army to go all the way back home because of


because it looked like Hearthstone wanted to get aggressive here.


人族这边也加入了几个鬼兵

It does have a couple of ghosts now into the mix as well


特别是对于电兵合成的执政官

Especially against Archons and High Templar now.


但是这把甚至并没有高阶圣堂

There's no high temp bar here or anything yet, but...


Once again, these better cruisers, they should be able to...


鸽认为这些升级会让战斗力加强一个档次

having those uh those units upgraded is going to make a huge difference as well


Up to this point he's at plus one flyer upgrades so...


非常有趣 可能他接下来也会再加更多的大和吧

So that's kind of interesting too that indicates to me that he may be thinking about adding on additional better cruises a little while later


真的爽（凤凰被大和炮轰死）


这充分说明了星际2还有很多的未知领域

This kinda shows how much of Starcraft 2 is still undiscovered territory.


大和开并不适合每一张地图

Now I can imagine battlecruisers aren't going to be great on every single map, but


但是有些情况 他们可以发挥的很出色

But on some you definitely can make them work


就比如在针对神族星门开转巨像的时候

especially against a Stargate based opener that transitions into Colossi.


一般情况下 转巨像是很稳的

Normally the colossi transition is really solid because


这样你可以轻易防住你的三矿

Because you can hold on to your third base a little bit easier


这也是顶级神族选手经常干的

It's one of the styles that the top-level Protoss players play all the time, so this


更不用说Harstem会用了

So this is super normal here from Hearthstone


Polt这个是一个非常规的战术

Unorthodox approach from from Pulse, but it's


It's working pretty well up to this moment.


鸽认为最终P要么爆一大坨兵平推

now i think ultimately protoss can just either like make a massive army and push forward


Oh my god, this is actually like a really strong funnel though.


Harstem你真的能吃掉吗 鸽不这么想

Harstem can you really fight this? Yeah, I don't think so


鸽还是认为神族最后可爆出大军平推

I think ultimately Protoss can just max out and get a huge army going and just attack forward.


但是到目前为止他仍然没下舰队航标

Now up to this moment though, he's not added on like a fleet beacon or anything like that.


Like that, he's only still on one Stargate, so.


所以他应该会在某时间把这些补齐

I think he may want to make that call here at some point


Now he's up to five bases, right? So that's.


For all intents and purposes, yeah, okay


有一个气矿是高能瓦斯 算两个

Apparently well, it's a high yield gas right so it counts as two but


这个时候Harstem觉得手握十气

Apparently this is the moment where Hearthstone is content. He's like okay with ten gases


I can start up my Stargate transition here as well.


Since there are already ghosts into the mix, rather than


Harstem决定放弃闪电改出自爆球

rather than going into High Templar, Hearthstone has decided to go for Disruptors instead.


他现在做的和鸽之前想的正好相反

I guess what Hearthstone is trying to achieve at this point is...


It's the exact opposite of what I was suggesting earlier where you go


where you go for like a really big army and then push out.


鸽不敢相信他居然会这么做

I think what he's trying to do. Oh my god. Wow, really? I can't believe he blinked past that


I guess he still managed to get a little bit of damage done.


鸽觉得他是送兵腾人口来造VS兵

I guess he wanted to get rid of some of his supply so he can He can start building some Stargate units here in a second


鸽认为他的战术是缓缓压迫对手

Um, but I think what he's trying to do is in a way like soft contain his opponent and provide


that prevent him from getting that much economy.


So up to this point, look, there's a couple DTs here.


here as well very annoying they deal so much damage here


到目前为止 神族还是占据着农民数量的优势

But up to this point Protoss obviously has been ahead when it comes to the work account quite aggressively now once again


鸽以为大和炮瞄准了巨像 但不是

I actually thought he was target firing down the colossi there, but not quite not quite gonna happen


两个大和一个二十五杀 另一个十二杀

25 kills on one of these 12 on the other


神族玩家比人族玩家的收入高多了

But up to this point, obviously, Protoss has been mining a lot more than the Terran player, right?


Harstem的思路是这样的：

I think that probably was the approach there from Hearthstone just keep


战巡可以杀我的探机 但我不会停止开矿

Just keep those battlecruisers occupied and just expand.


所以人族玩家并不能造成太大打击

Knowing that Terran really can't hurt you very much during all of that.


此时在人族二矿 一个隐刀九杀

That one DT, by the way, is still going to town. It's now got nine kills.


并且逼出了两把雷达 这可是大阵仗

It also forced out two scans which is absolutely massive.


So nice positioning here, and this is the moment apparently where the Tempest production is getting started.


这艘战巡—战术折跃—它成功跑路了

This better cruiser. It does have technical jump will be able to get home despite


despite it's buddy already losing it's life.


这并不重要 因为Polt家里此时

But look at this inside of the main base of Polt he's


he's transitioning to watch a triple battlecruiser production.


战巡还蛮贵的 在游戏中期并不常见

Battlecruisers are ridiculously expensive.


Normally we don't see them in the in the mid game very much, but


but you can certainly make use of them, having them in the absolute late game.


After maybe getting like one or two in the early game as well. It's pretty common to get that switch


大多数情况下鸽没见过像Polt这么用大和的

But, uh, most of the time we don't see, like, two, three battle cruisers.


他的大和很有压迫力 打的激进

this aggressively like port was going for pretty cool


神族部队能否强拆这个行星要塞

Okay, now is this gonna be enough to break through this planetary fortress looks like


鸽认为巨像扫修基地的农民会更好

I would love it if the Colossus started to target fire down some of these some of these SCVs But I think


但Harstem应该忙着在其他地方微操

But I think harsh that must have been preoccupied and microing elsewhere because


他还在骚扰人族的主矿 杀了九个SCV

Obviously still also harassing inside of the main base here nine workers go down


使得人族部队不断调动 同时压制经济

Brilliant move right here by Hearthstone, keeping his opponent occupied and really like keeping that economy here of the Terran player contained. He's


他在把更弱的BG兵替换成——

He's slowly replacing some of these weaker gateway units with army units that look


Ooh, nicely done, he gets the planetary.


替换成更加强力的兵种 例如巨大飞船之类

With army units that really are much more sustainable like for example those those big flying units now


但他仍然留着很多追猎 鸽喜欢这一点

Now, there's still a bunch of Stalkers available. I like it.


He ends up losing quite a lot right here on the on the tail end of things, right?


他不得不再次刷出更多追猎

Right now he's forced to warp in a bunch of stalkers again.


这个兵种组合里缺少溅射伤害

It's a little bit awkward. There's not that much splash damage in this unit composition.


we saw earlier when Disruptor actually moves down the ramp.


运输机被集火 但鸽觉得这一坨生化部队

Medivacs get target fired down as well, but I've got a feeling that this bio army at this point


对于现在的神族来说有点多

this point is just a little bit too much.


没有更多净化新星 没有溅射伤害了

no more purification novas and really no uh additional splash damage available


风暴战舰来了 此时有两艘可用

There are those Tempest Dozers, two of them available at this moment.


鸽觉得出更多的风暴是个选择

I actually would love to see continued Tempest production at this point, obviously.


但是不能海风暴 会被机枪兵社保

Obviously you can't go too crazy because at that point the the Marines would just shred you to bits


风暴 自爆球 追猎 叉叉


Another Nexus being acquired in the top left hand corner.


虽然Harstem打掉了猩猩要塞

So, despite Hearthstone killing the planetary, I feel like...


但是鸽觉得他在那里呆太久了

I feel like he lingered around this area for a little bit too long.


承担了远远高于需求的伤害

And he eventually took a lot more damage than he absolutely needed to.


鸽觉得他可以强拆基地后直接跑路 那样更好

I think he was probably able to snipe the base and then just get out with most of the units I think that would have been a better choice


Right now though, everything has sort of been evened up, right?


在升级方面 双方地面部队完全升级

So if you have a look right here at upgrades both players have their ground units fully upgraded


Hearthstone has already finished up a plus two flier weapons as well would love


鸽很希望看见Harstem升级甲壳——

We'd love to see actually some some some carapace upgrades or some


升级护甲 这不是虫族 没有甲壳升级

some armor upgrades rather. This is not Zerk loco, I don't have carapace.


但鸽还是希望看见给暴风的护甲升级

But I would love to see some armor upgrades as well for those tempests


这些大和炮造成了海量伤害

Yeah, these Yamato cannons deal so much damage.


看看 两发大和炮就秒了一艘暴风

Look at that! Two Yamato's just got rid of one of those Tempests.


仅仅是因为神族的错误走位

And that's just because hearthstone got into that position


鸽认为此时Harstem需要几个先知

I think what he's gonna need here at some point as well is a few oracles


yeah producing three tempest at once right now i think you need


I think he needs to add on like an oracle or two here in just a second.


他又在刷叉和隐刀骚扰人族主基地

Once again more harassment inside of the main base


风暴的好处是空对空射程极长 但需要视野

So the thing about Tempest is that they have a ton of air-to-air range in particular, but you need to see the units


此时神族主要在用幻象——

right so at this point he's mostly sacrificing some hallucinations and


I think that this is another one of them that will get picked off.


Mostly using hallucinations and then those leftover phoenixes from early too


有了先知 就可以照战巡来给视野

but with the oracles you can obviously use revelation on the


on the battlecruisers and then the Tempests can shoot away at their maximum range.


战巡手挺短 只要神族微操好

Battlecruisers really have a pretty short range so with good micro.


the battlecruisers should get picked off.


Yeah, okay, here's an oracle. I like it a lot.


还下了个机场 总共四个了

An additional Stargate coming up as well that brings the total up to four Stargates.


现在变成空军P对战空军T了

This is gonna be a full Sky Toss versus full Sky Terran army here isn't it?


我觉得这就是人们推荐鸽解说的理由

I think that's the reason why people recommended it to me.


这太绝了 双方基本上开了自己的每一片矿

this is so sick both players are now taking basically every every single base on their site


Harstem开了这片一般没人开的矿

Arshtam even taking this expansion over here that we never really see mine very often.


他甚至可以扩张到左上角的矿区

You could even consider taking the expansion here in the top left, but...


but since both of them are maxed out right now I wouldn't


鸽觉得他们要开始腾出低级兵

I wouldn't be surprised if we're gonna see some of those like lower tier units


例如枪兵和光头的人口并替换成大和

Like you know Marines and marauders and stuff. I wouldn't be surprised if we're gonna see those getting replaced here with additional better cruisers


神族也一样 把追猎和叉叉换掉

and likewise for the protoss i would love to see some of these uh some of these zealots and maybe a few of the stalkers replaced as well


他低级部队不多 就十三个

He doesn't have that many though. He's actually only got 13.


不过鸽确实喜欢Harstem的节奏

You know what? I really like this style here from Hearthstone.


It took him a long road to getting here, right?


十九分钟才凑出这个组合 但是看起来很强

It took him like 19 minutes to get to this unit composition, but it seems really potent


What about a muttership? Do you think a muttership would be worthwhile?


他其实有很多探机 九十一个算多的了

He's actually got a lot of probes. I wonder if maybe 91 probes is a lot.


so by the way notice revelation here now being utilized on these uh on these better cruisers so


Harstem在技能失效前都能看到对手部队的位置

so Hearthstone can see where they're located as long as that spell is active.


在部队里加几个先知真的很有效

So having a couple of oracles into the mix really really beneficial because


Because it prevents you from getting your motto down.


他在那堆风暴下面藏了几个自爆球尝试伏击

Beautiful moves there actually underneath that cloud of tempest. There's a couple of disruptors trying to get value


that's sadly here oh-ho-ho great targeting as well


Slightly down for two protals the better cruises didn't get in range


战巡进入射程内 先知也使用了技能

But once again revelation was used and I


人族该如何应对——又是一个自爆球炸开

And at this point, I mean, how are you gonna fight this? Once again, beautiful disruptors.


Those purification novas are dealing so much damage that once again...


Once again, the Tempest went a little bit too far forward.


这艘风暴真的只剩了一点血

This one over here, literally at one health.


字面意义上只有一点生命值


四艘战巡 不 四艘风暴正在生产队列里

Four better crews, or rather four Tempests are being produced at once.


鸽不太确定谁会赢 但鸽认为

I'm not entirely sure who's winning this, but I do like this


随着时间推移 Harstem的优势会越来越大

this position for Hearthstone a lot more here as time goes by.


Should be able to get rid of this planetary here


他能做到吗 鸽觉得他想点掉

Is he gonna commit? I think he wants to, maybe he wants to.


可能他贪了 最终他做到了

Let's do it. Maybe that's a little greedy though. Nah, he does get it.


最终演变为战列巡洋舰和风暴战舰的对决

It comes down to the battle between the Battlecruisers and then those Tempests.


鸽觉得只要有操作 神族应该占上风

And I feel like on paper with perfect micro proto should have the upper hand there


如果先知一直放天启 风暴保持距离输出

Right if you keep lending the revelations and you can keep shooting away at those tempest you're gonna


Now Hearthstone has lost way more resources though look at


他战损比对手多一万水晶和三千气体

look at this he's lost like 10,000 more minerals and like 3,000 more gas right that's


计算基本正确 不要在视频里做即时计算 一次也别做

that math was almost correct math in a video though never do it not even once but


但是他损失真的很大 真的很高

But he's like lost so much money. He's lost so much money now


当然他收入也更多 几分钟之前他有九十个农民

Now he's been mining a lot more and a little bit ago. He was sitting at like 90 workers. I like


又是自爆球 他的自爆球功劳很大

I think so once again huge disruptors man those disruptors are doing so much work


好 鸽觉得这个基地又没了 风暴在输出了

Yeah, I think that this base once again will be denied. Tempest are dealing damage.


I think he needs to maybe get rid of a couple of those probes.


Polt在家里留了几艘战巡

well apparently port he's uh using a couple of better cruises here at home


鸽猜是为了防止神族的风暴推进

To defend against those tempest from like moving forward, I guess but it's


But at the same time he's getting rid of a couple of those probes now


Harstem是需要送点农民 但这未免太多

Now, I think you needed to get rid of a couple, uh, Mr. Mr. Harstem. Losing this many does seems a little bit excessive.


追猎跳了两次 三十二个探姬就消失了

Oh my god, you blink twice and 32 probes disappear.


好的 这些战巡可以战术跳跃

You know what? Yep, they have tactical jump.


这很关键 这个基地会被——没有吗——它被拆了

this is actually really critical look at this the base will get oh well no no okay well


人族很好的指定了大和炮目标

He actually is pretty quite nice with those target fires of those Yamato cannons, right?


很多时候大和炮都是对某单位/某建筑齐射

right? Most of the time we see them used on units or on structures.


但他给每艘战巡指定不同目标使伤害最大化

but he's really using them on individual targets. Specifically targeting with each and every battlecruiser to just get the maximum amount of damage done.


Polt现在战巡很多 编组了两支打击编队

You know what? Since Polt now has so many better cruises that he can split them up, he's sent


他现在派遣刚才防卫基地的第二支编队入场

He's sending in the second hit squad the one that was used for base defense earlier to


来遏止神族重新开起来的分矿

to go after that expansion that is certainly being reacquired.


而Harstem依然从老位置发起进攻

as Hearthstone is trying to continue fighting from the same position that he was already in earlier.


现在负责防守的战巡是杀完探姬折跃回来的

So these are the better cruisers that previously tactical jumped and that said that killed all those probes look at this


第二支打击编队 鸽爱死这个想法了


如果你是Harstem 你现在会怎么做

So sick. So what do you do right now? What do you do right now if you're Hearthstone?


鸽不知道 你不能过于激进

I don't know man. You can't get too aggressive


追猎前跳不错 在战巡屁股底下

Nice blink forward there does manage to get underneath these battle cruisers


对某些战巡造成了一定伤害


同一时间 第二支打击编队还在蹂躏矿区

At the same time by the way, those battlecruisers are still going to town.


突然Harstem的经济崩溃了

All of a sudden, Hearthstone's economy is absolutely in shatters.


The 12 Tempests, they are now back at home.


但你知道吗 这些战巡可以战术折跃

But guess what these better cruisers have technical jump available. They're gonna get out


他们按一个键就可以跑路了


当风暴准备开火 它们就可以——

So by the time you show up, they're gonna


至少它们应该跑了 传送啊

Well, he should get out. Teleport, dude.


好的 他最终失去了一艘战巡


但是绝对抵得上它们造成的大量破坏

but that's 100% worth dealing that much damage with.


同时 追猎在强拆另一座行星要塞

At the same time though, the Stalkers apparently are now going after another one of these planetaries.


自爆球炸死了大量的SCV


鸽认为最后是一场战巡和风暴的舰队决战

I think this will all come down to one big clash between the battlecruisers and those tempests.


问题是这场决战会发生在行星要塞这边

Question is, will it be when they're fighting on a planetary, or


还是在神族护盾电池阵地这边

Or will it be when they're fighting on shield batteries?


Harstem的经济优势消失了

Hearthstone actually doesn't really have much money anymore.


人族开始重新出机枪兵 这有点疯狂

Bolt is not completely maxed out either. He's going back to marine production right now.


That's a little bit crazy. He's forced to take now this expansion here on the low ground.


鸽开始为这位荷兰神族选手担心了（Harstem是荷兰人）

I'm starting to get a little bit worried right now for the Dutch Prodels


他需要阻止人族开矿 但补给状况显示他兵力不足

He needs to deny bases here of the Terran, but he doesn't really have the units at this point anymore as far as


但是十二艘风暴还是很有战斗力的

As far as like the supply count goes although, I mean never count out a man with 12 Tempest


他现在可以用风暴一轮集火带走一艘战巡 太可怕了

And he can now essentially one-shot better cruisers with Tempest. That's insane


鸽惊了 人族决定战巡骑脸 他跳到了神族部队后面

My god, he actually decides to jump he jumped right now behind the protos army, bro


大概在尝试拦截一些神族的部队

Probably trying to intercept a couple of these units right now


再次分开利用大和炮来猎杀尽可能多的神族部队

Utilizing the the Yamato cannons once again to target fire as many of these units down as he can at the same


同时MM部队扎针冲了上去

at the same time the marauders and marines stim forward.


他应该有更多的战巡啊 剩下的九艘战巡在哪

Doesn't he have more battlecruisers? He has nine battlecruisers, where's the rest of them?


鸽并不清楚 大概有几艘在路上

Don't really know exactly where they are. I guess a couple of them are moving forward right now as well


也许在等待战术跳跃的冷却——

as well maybe waiting for technical job to come off


无论它们之前在哪里 Polt决定再次跳脸

cooldown well wherever they were pulled now has decided it's time to jump forward


Hearthstone managed to take some engage, Hearthstone is forced to tap out of this game and pull


I think that's what he was hunting for, right?


他知道由于他对对手经济的打击

He knew his opponent wasn't quite maxed out anymore because


他的对手人口并不是特别满

because he did so much economical damage.


于是他让约半数的战巡折跃到神族部队后方

and then he committed like half of his battlecruisers to jumping behind the protoss army.


Harstem在下方没有执政官这种单位

and since hearthstone didn't really have any like archons or anything like that underneath so


能对战巡造成毁灭性的大量溅射伤害

So none of the units that really do a lot of splash damage to clump up better cruisers like that You know


他成功的打出了成吨的输出

He managed to get an awful lot of damage done.


鸽对最后的部队损失表很好奇

I'm actually curious though as far as like units lost go here at the very end.


人族的确用这些战巡打出了高额伤害

Terran really ended up getting some insane value out of those better cruisers.


I hope that you enjoyed watching this video.


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If you did, make sure you hit that like button down below. If you want to see more, make sure you hit that subscribe button so you


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so you get notified as soon as future videos go live.


好的 感谢收看 祝你今日顺利 别忘记微笑

But for now, I want to thank you for watching, have an amazing day, do not forget to smile alright.


I will see you once again in the next one


All right, what's up, everybody, and welcome.


我们正在观看的是MaxPax的第一视角直播

we have a first-person view stream here of MaxMax.


他现在的MMR来到了6.9K 对阵雷诺

He's playing 6.9k MMR up against Reynard.


这位世界上最好的神族选手

Reiner, the best Protos player in the world, who's


此前从未参加过线下比赛 近期也没有参赛计划

who's never showed up to a live tournament and has no plans to do so soon.


我们知道他现在大约20岁

We know he's about 20 years old right now and


14、15岁的时候水平就已经相当高了

and he started hitting very very high level from like 14 15 years old he's


他非常快 而且他的攻守两端似乎达到了完美结合

He's incredibly fast and he seems to be the perfect blend of aggression and defense now


当然 他的对局中仍然存在纰漏


我认为他还没有达到一些最伟大的神族选手那样的全面

I don't think he's as well-rounded as some of the greatest protoss players of all time, but


但他在多线、进攻和防守方面

but he's getting to the point where his ability to multitask, attack and defend


因为他经常和Clem练习 已经达到了下一个级别

because he practices so much against Clam, is next level.


不过 不幸的是 视频质量不会太好 因为这只是他直播的录播

Now, unfortunately, the quality is not going to be great because this is just a recording off of his stream.


然而 我已经请求他保留并公开日后的视频

However, I have requested that he leave his videos open in future.


这是大约三个月前的天梯比赛

This is from about three months ago on the ladder


但他之前删除了所有的Twitch视频

but he's previously deleted all of his twitch videos and I


我对他说 兄弟 我喜欢解说所有顶级选手的第一视角比赛

And I said, look, dude, I love casting all the top players. First person point of view games.


MaxPax说 好的 没问题


他为我们更改了Twitch设置


所以如果你们想看更多MaxPax的第一人称视角视频

So if you guys get to see more max packs point-of-view videos, maybe


一定要去看看他的Twitch频道


我也会在视频简介中留下链接

I'll put a link down below in the YouTube description as well.


人们也可以在Twitch聊天中加入我们

People can drop one in Twitch chat as well as we are.


因为我们正在直播解说这场比赛

We are costing this live on stream. He does


He doesn't stream very often, but when...


但每次直播都能让我们深入了解这位速度和准度极高的选手

but when he does it's it's really good insight into a player who's incredibly fast and precise now for


对于那些不知道的人 我很确定他仍然使用鼠标加速 这有点不幸

For those who don't know, I'm pretty sure he still plays with mouse acceleration, which is kind of unfortunate.


就像上一个顶级丹麦选手Bunny在2015、2016年时

Much like the last top Danish player, Bunny, back in 2015-2016.


这就是因为丹麦人很奇葩 伙计们

And this is because Danish people are weirdos, guys.


这只是因为Windows默认开启了这个功能 很不幸

It's it's just unfortunate a lot because windows turns it on by default most people


大多数人从小玩竞技游戏时都不会讨论这些设置

grow up playing competitive games without talking about these settings and then


and they get stuck in their ways and they


并且非常非常习惯于一个客观上更差的设置

and they get really really used to a objectively worse setup.


他说 这感觉太奇怪了 我要改回去

He said, it feels too weird, I'm going back.


我还建议他把图形设置调低

I did suggest he also turn his graphics down because he


因为他把所有设置都调到了超高


我相信他现在已经调整了不少这些设置

I believe he's now turned quite a few of these settings.


这看起来像是中等图形设置

this looks like medium graphics for the most part like


可能有一些设置还是高或超高

like a few settings might be on higher ultra but


但我告诉他 高帧率非常重要

But because I want I told him that it's very important to have higher FPS because


因为帧率越高 游戏中的输入延迟就越少

because the higher FPS, the less input lag there is in games.


这几乎适用于所有竞技游戏

And this is the same for pretty much all competitive games.


所以他也设法把帧率调高了

So he's managed to turn that up as well.


不 不 鼠标加速度在FPS游戏中有时才有用

Uh, no, no mouse acceleration is only sometimes helpful in fps shooters. It's


99%的职业FPS玩家会告诉你它很糟糕

99% of FPS players who are professionals will tell you it's terrible.


在FPS游戏中它也真的很糟糕 伙计们


也有一些FPS职业选手使用它 他们固守自己的习惯

There is also a couple of FPS pros who use it who are stuck in their ways and


而人体几乎可以适应任何东西

and the human body, you can adapt to almost anything.


但那些坚持认为它更好的人只是因为他们从小就习惯了

but uh people who will insist that it's better are the people who just grew up with it are used to it


而且不愿意经历重新学习的过程

and are not willing to go through the relearning process.


我在《星际争霸2》中也好几年没有关闭它

I didn't turn mine off for several years in S.T.A.L.K.E.R. after you guys either, but


但相信我 一旦你摆脱它 会好很多

but trust me, once you get rid of it, it's much better.


所以如果你是一个休闲玩家 通常不值得

So if you're a casual player, it's usually not worth it.


但如果你是职业玩家 我会说值得

But if you are a pro gamer, I would say it is


看看他是否适应了 但他是和Clem一样的选手之一

that and see if he has adapted it but uh he is one of the players up there with Clem who


会比大多数其他选手更频繁地误杀自己的单位和误点击

who does kill his own units and misclick a little bit more than most other players, but


但我认为这主要还是因为他玩的速度太快了

but I think that generally just comes down to the speed at which he plays anyway.


好吧 我们来谈谈游戏玩法


看看我们能不能造成一些伤害

now. Let's see if we can get some damage.


小狗们在右侧就位 但在左侧 他能偷到一个农民吗

the wings are in position on the right but on the left side can he get a drone


Reynor的这招用的很不错


但他现在可以飘回家 因为你知道 小狗速度马上就要研究好了

But he can just shade home now because you know link speeds about to kick in he


他应该还有一个额外的水晶

He has an extra, he should have an extra pylon, yeah.


是的 所以水晶正在建造中

Yeah, yeah, so the pylons going down notice


注意 他快要卡人口了 伙计们

Now notice he's about to get supply blocked, guys.


他将达到46/46 而那个水晶将完成

so he's going to hit 46 out of 46 and that pylon is going to finish


所以看 46/46 大约一秒半之后人口上限就达到了54

so look 46 out of 46 and one got one and a half seconds before he hit 50 uh 54 max supply now


所以即使他被包围 使徒也会传送回安全地带

so even if he gets surrounded the adepts would teleport back to safety and he'd


他让先知回家 因为现在这里的优先任务是开出三矿

and he brings the oracle home, because the priority here is getting your 3rd base up.


up the Oracle can go across and harass later.


所以这是Maxpax非常安全、负责的防守打法

So this is super safe, defensively responsible play for max backs.


一旦三矿开出来 双气通常是非常重要的

Once your third's up, getting double gas is usually pretty important.


显然 三矿的水晶会解决他卡人口的问题

Obviously the pylon on the third will unsupply block him.


看 先知假装飞走 然后返回 因为他希望会有一个农民会出来

and look the oracle pretends to fly away goes back in because he was hoping a drone would come out


工蜂下来 然后你再进去一次

drones come down and then you go back in for another


Maxpax的先知非常擅长干这活

Maxfax is very good at this with his oracles.


他和herO是最擅长假装进攻、撤退、再进攻、再撤退的选手

him and Hiro are the best at faking in, pulling out, faking in, pulling out.


他只有在你露出破绽时才会真正进攻

And he only commits if you leave an opening.


他抓到一个 然后从各个方向进攻 再从北边进攻

He gets one, and he comes in from multiple angles, and he goes back in on the north!


他把女王引到南边 然后再冲进去

He lured the queens out of position towards the south and he dives back in.


注意到他在二号和四号位置的先知

that. And notice, oracles are on 2 and 4.


这是他计划的两种不同控制

two different control groups he was planning so


所以他在主动和被动地寻找机会

so he was actively and reactively looking for openings a lot of


很多玩家在进行先知骚扰时

A lot of players, when they do Oracle harassment...


我们只是选择一个角度然后冲进去

we just pick an angle and we dive and it's...


如果有机会我们就会继续进攻

Oh, there's an opening we can commit or there's


如果没有机会我们就会撤退然后再来

or there's not an opening, we have to pull back and come back later.


Maxpax喜欢进行这种双线先知压力

Backspacks he loves doing this two-pronged oracle pressure and look


看 即使现在 他在南边还有一个先知

And look, even now, he's still got an oracle in the south.


所以他试图用他的先知摧毁它

So he's trying to kill that with his oracles


他的使徒正在向前阴影移动

circles, his depths are shading forwards.


He does not want to let Reiner get up a super fast 4th.


话虽如此 女王在空地上 他无法与之对抗

That being said, Queen's in the open, he can't fight those.


Very cool, okay, great defense by Raynor.


雷诺将能够守住四基地并击杀一个先知

Reyna is going to be able to defend that fourth base and get an oracle kill.


对雷诺来说这是一个巨大的举动


这实际上是一个非常非常大的举动

This is actually a massive, massive move for Reyna.


plus one and blink start up there on the


四气全开 再拍下四个传送门

on the forecast we've already got four gateways going we're going to


我们将会看到一个8BG 没机械台

We're gonna go a gate a gate. No robo. Okay


这是Max Pax经典的闪现提速叉BG风格

This is MaxPak's classic, blink, charge, kind of gateway man style.


VR是给那些胆小鬼和分奴的


也许他在他的二矿上确实有一个

Maybe he does have one on his natural. Oh, he-


他是对的 他在他的二矿上确实有一个VR

He sorry he does have a robo in his natural


所以是机械台接8BG 六气

So it's robo into eight gate into six gas


Still probably just gonna use that for the warp prism for a while. I don't


我认为他现在还负担不起巨像

I don't think he can afford to go Colossus just yet.


特别是如果他要有八个传送门的话


如果你要8BG 这意味着我想制造很多追猎

If you're going eight gate, it says I want to make a lot of stalkers.


I want to make potentially zealots after that.


我想用追猎、先知获得地图控制

I want to get map control with stalker oracle.


VR单位 闪电提供AOE和不朽者一类的东西在后期才会加入

Robo units, Storm, Splash Damage Immortals, any of that stuff is going to be coming in later.


使徒被包围了 雷诺拉扯的好啊

But all those adepts get surrounded. Good pullback by Rainer. Rainer.


防住了使徒 什么都没有打到

Rainer just denying him. Those adepts aren't finding anything.


先知打算利用这个干扰机会进入那里

The oracle is going to try to take advantage of the distraction to get in there gets


现在闪电在路上了 伙计们 我觉得

Now this is Psystorms on the way guys, I believe.


他用两个早出来的电兵做了一个白球

He makes an Archon with two of his early High Templar.


等等 他是要做白球叉叉吗


哦 他研究的是脚速 而不是闪现


哦 哇 好吧 这让我有点措手不及

oh wow okay this this caught me off maybe


也许他先做了闪现 现在做脚速

up maybe he went blink first and now going charge but he's


因为雷诺只展示了狗 一个蟑螂都没有

because rain has shown only zerglings and not a single roach he's like


他想 为什么我要做追猎 如果你只做小狗

He's like, why would I make stalkers if you're just making lings?


所以他要进行一个叉叉白球的压制打法

So he's going for a zealot arc on pressure all


Oh, but his fourth base gets cancelled, he's gonna...


他会立即在另一边重新建一个 那非常快

He's gonna take it immediately on the other side. That was very quick.


他说 好吧 你拆了上面的基地


我会在施压的同时拿下下面的

I'll take the bottom while pressuring and he's


他要去双机械台巨像加自爆球和不朽者

and he's going to go double robo colossus plus disruptors and mortals behind us


如果他能出一堆巨像白球 它会摧毁小狗和爆虫

You can get out a bunch of Colossus Archon, it wrecks Ling Bane.


and this is going to force Reyna to build roaches.


问题是 如果他失去了这个新的四矿 现在已经七分半了

Thing is, if he loses this new fourth base, it's already seven and a half minutes, it's...


对于一个第四基地来说 这有点晚了


如果你是一个普通玩家 但在这个水平上

if you're a normal player, but at this level with


他们的速三加速造探机Maxpax

with the way they've played fast third super chronos on probes for max max verse


你想在这里尽快建立一个四矿来给虫族施加压力

you want to get a very fast 4th base up here to put pressure on the zerg to do something to you.


让他不得不尝试减缓你的势头

Make it so he has to try and slow down your momentum here.


现在 Maxpax的打法对抗allin非常危险

Now, the way he's played Max Pax is very dangerous against all-ins but it


但如果虫族大量小狗和爆虫 这种打法是有效的

but it works if the zerg's on massling bane if they don't


如果他们没有蟑螂 他们真的不能非常激进

If they don't have roaches, they can't really be very aggressive, and in fact...


and that's 10-gate production coming up.


我们有四基地的两个气矿盖子拍下

we've got two gases going up in the fourth so we want the


我们需要气矿 我认为这是两个巨像在建造 巨像又名刺蛇摧毁者各位

He wants that 8 gas, I think that's 2 Colossus, building Colossus, wreck Hydras guys.


如果你能出几个巨像 那将是很大的优势

If you can get out a couple of Colossus, that'll be big.


我以为他之前要出闪电 但后来我意识到那只是叉叉和白球

storm I talked about I thought he was going storm earlier but then I realized it was just zealot archon I thought


I thought it was Stalker Storm for a second.


He's going to disrupt us before Colossus...


哇 对抗小狗、毒爆和刺蛇


我认为如果你能出一到两个巨像 它们会改变局势

I think if you get even one to two Colossus out, they are game changers.


he might be worried about an early attack.


Disruptors build faster, therefore they...


它们能更快地在战场上发挥作用 这就是为什么你会想要出它们

they more immediately get power onto the battlefield, which is why you'd want to get them.


它们在清理大群毒爆时也更好

they're also better at clearing big clumps of banelings but...


但它们射击一次后 需要21秒才能再次使用

They shoot once and then they're done for 21 seconds.


这就是为什么在这里攻击是疯狂的 伙计们

And this is why attacking here is crazy guys


is knowing night did i just see a swarm host okay


好吧 我认为那是一个意外的宿主

okay i think that was an accidental swarm most i can't


哦 雷诺有点深入了 但不 他撤退了

Oh, he's a bit deep is rainer, but no he pulls back prison


他会试图在角落里对抗那些狗

He's going to try and fight in the corner against those zerglings


Maxpax的多任务微操是顶级的

The multitasking micro of Maxpax is next level.


他是世界上最擅长这种来回战斗、用棱镜骚扰

He is the best protoss in the world at this sort of just back and forth fighting in two places harassing with a prism and


同时进行运营和开矿的神族选手 同时

and macroing and expanding at the same time.


He's splitting zealots to the north right now because


因为他想确保那里没有毒爆或其他东西进来

because he wants vision up there to make sure no banelings or anything get in.


他担心雷诺把他的军队分成两半 同时攻击北方和南方

He's worried about Raynor splitting his army into two halves and attacking the north and the south at the same time.


怎么是大量的宿主、刺蛇和小狗


雷诺在玩一种非常新的风格


我以前从未见过这种打法 伙计们


这是雷诺现在尝试的是一些非常前沿、奇怪的东西

This is really cutting-edge weird stuff for Reyna that he's trying out now.


抱歉 Maxpax的棱镜被雷诺点掉了

Sorry, Raxapex Prism does get sniped by the rainer.


但他为神族的四矿是强力的基石

but he's got good setup for base protoss if you


如果你不能用那些宿主打出伤害 情况会变得非常糟糕

If you don't get in and do damage with those swarmos, it starts to look really bad.


我真的觉得巨像对付任何东西都无敌

I really feel like Colossus would be god tier against everything.


自爆球 它们是不错的单位 但哦 好炸

disruptors like they're they're good units but oh very good disruptor shots he's


他已经用第一次自爆球射击杀了六七个刺蛇

He's already killed like six or seven hydras with his first disruptor shots


他正是为了那个虫洞而侦查的

He was spotting exactly for that Nidus Swarmost and because of that, he was able to get it.


因为这样 他在上面放了两个叉叉

And because of that, he gets two zealots on top of his head.


他在这个坡道上防守得非常好

up. He's holding this ramp fantastically.


a couple more zelts warping into the main base


幸运的是 他还没有满人口


追猎也开始对眼虫造成伤害

Stalker as well to start doing damage to the Overseer.


我告诉你 伙计 真是太快了


I don't normally see Protosses play like this.


herO打得快 但多线没这么好

Hero plays fast, but not this good at multitasking.


herO会集中注意力并有非常关键的制胜操作 但他没有这么快

hero tunnel visions and has really clutch game winning maneuvers, but he is nowhere near this fast.


聊天室说他们觉得这比Parting还快

Chat saying they think this is faster than parting as well


但我不会说他的多线能力有这么好

but I wouldn't say he's like this good at just multitasking.


Maxpax总是打多任务处理的风格

Maxfax always plays a multitasking style.


这是他的...... 哦我的天 全中


而且在某种程度上也是他的PVP

and it is PvP to some extent as the game goes on as well.


在北方进行漂亮的遭遇战后撤退 同时打退了坑道

Beautiful fighting retreat on the north, while denying the Nidus Worms.


如果雷诺没有好的菌毯准备 他做不了什么

If Reyna doesn't have good creeps ready can't do much at all.


哦我的天 自爆球炸的很满

And oh my gosh, the disruptor shots are big!


As well, the disruptor's trying to pull away.


He's got to be careful with those zealots


They did actually end up taking a big baneling hit, but as long as


但只要自爆球存活 那些是他宝贵的单位

but as long as the Disruptors survive, those are his valuable units.


Maxpax现在在控制地图

Max Pax is controlling the map right now.


如果雷诺不出大龙的话就没有办法应对

Now, if Reyna doesn't get to Broodlords, he has no answer.


从技术上讲 像雷兽对抗这支军队也会有很好的表现

I mean, technically, like, ULTRA would do well against this army.


like ultra surround would actually be very good.


我不知道雷诺是否有升级或科技

I don't know if Rainer has the upgrades or the tech to go that range.


雷诺的ZVP以几乎一直停留在二本科技而闻名

Rainer is famous for staying on latek pretty much all of zvp 10


即使在他可以上三本的10分钟后

10 minutes after he could have gone hive like that's


就像 这是他的风格 我通常停留在二本科技

Like, that's just his thing, is I win on latek usually.


I'm not saying he never does, but he does.


但他通常会在这里保持压制

But it's very common for him to stay here with the pressure, the amount of.


投入大量资源在虫洞宿主、刺蛇和爆虫上

the amount of investment on the Nidus Worm Swarmers, the Hydra-Ling Bane.


Maxpax也一直在保持压制

The pressure Maxpex is keeping up, I don't know.


我不认为他觉得上三本是安全的


即使他上了三本 可能也只是爆狂狗

Even if he goes Hive, probably just makes Adrenal Glands maybe


也许一两条飞蛇 不会有太多其他东西

Maybe one or two vipers and not much else


自爆球确实有溅射到自己的白球

disruptor shot does kind of hit his own arc on but it


这些交换对Maxpax来说相当不错

These trades are pretty good for Max Max Mad.


你看雷诺只是一次派出几个毒爆

man you see rain is just sending a few bailings in at a time but they hit


但它们打到了白球和不朽自爆球

but they're hitting what, Archon Immortal Disruptor?


我的意思是 他可以这样打一天

I mean he can take these fights all day and all night.


Storm, I don't think, has been upgraded.


That's one thing I'd criticize the other


另一点是我不知道升级情况

The other thing is, I don't know what the upgrades are.


因为他从来没有选择单个单位

because he's never selecting an individual unit so


所以我看不到盾研究到几级了

So I'm not seeing is there plasma shields in the mix. Oh


我知道 因为我也是个虫族玩家

But I know because I'm a Zerg player as well.


当你听到那种声音的时候 你绝对开心不起来

And when you get hit by that boom boom, you are not happy, but


Maxpax在那里犯了个错误


Maxpax确实犯了个错误


哦 天哪 这太疯狂了 伙计


Maxpax的多任务处理能力真是太强了

Dude, the multitasking of Vax Pax is insane.


他处理多线的能力非常非常好

and his ability to handle multiple engagements is so so good.


虽说在比赛里Serral可以暴打他

To think that Serol easily wins against this guy in tournaments, not on the stage.


It's not a lot of guys keep that in mind


MaxMax actually beats the shit out of Seryl.


我不是说他对Serral胜率很客观

not not i'm not saying he has a winning record versus him because


因为别误会 我见过Serral很多次打败他

because don't get me wrong, I've seen Seryl beat him a lot.


但Maxpax几乎总是能在对阵Serral时占上风

but Maxpex almost always gets ahead against Serral.


Serral has better late game than MaxPak's number one.


第二点 他在比赛中带来了更好的计划

Number two, he brings in much better plans in tournaments.


Serral总是带着精美的战术在比赛中击败Maxpax

Seryl always comes in with beautiful plans to wreck Maxpax in tournaments.


Maxpax在比赛中打得太标准


而Serral总是能打一个出其不意


这就是人们没有意识到的事情

And this is the thing people don't realize is several


Serral是世界上最好的智力型选手

Seryl is the best planning player in the world by far.


他在战前策划阶段就已经击败了大多数选手 就像巅峰Rogue一样

he beats most players in the planning stages, much like Rogue used to do when he was at his peak.


Serral非常全面和稳固


像Maxpax这样的选手可以在多线方面上超过他

The guys like Maxpex can't out-multitask him and they regularly do it.


Serral是一个令人难以置信的比赛选手

Seryl is an incredible tournament player and


And, uh, and he's, he's made that evolution magnet.


Maxpax还没有完成这种进化


Maxpax仍然是一个非常标准的顶级选手

Maxpex is still a very god-tier standard player.


可能是目前世界上最好的标准选手

potentially the best standard player in the world right now.


左侧的大波蝗虫将清理一些东西

um big locus wave on the left side it's going to clear some of that stuff


I like that the Colossus are finally here I think.


我觉得它们几分钟前就应该来了

I think they should have been here minutes ago


在我看来 我认为巨像可能已经终结了这场比赛

In my opinion, I think Colossus maybe could have ended this game already, but...


但现在 虫群主力仍然是刺蛇和爆虫

but uh right now still swarmos hydralink bane


在我自己打的PVZ中 36分钟都不会有这么多动作

We wouldn't have had this much action in 36 minutes of my gameplay of PvZ.


天啊 这些家伙的游戏节奏

Holy crap, the pace these guys play is...


很好 折跃叉叉来堵住狭口

Nice zealot warping to block the choke point.


哦 不 好吧 Maxpax已经满人口了


Max, he's got a Porsche, he's got a Porsche.


他想 好吧 我经济会受到打击

He's like okay, I'm gonna take economic damage


没关系 但我有一支庞大的军队

That's okay, but I've got a giant army, good for me.


但爆虫在面对那白球巨像球时将毫无用处 更别提还有自爆球了

but bailing is going to be useless versus that archon colossus ball not to mention the disruptors


我的意思是 他会用一个大包围来进攻

I mean, he's going to come with a big surround.


我喜欢他用自爆球的射击来开路

I like that he's leading with disruptor shots


我觉得这是一个很好的方法


好的 白球巨像表现得相当不错 伙计

Okay, the Aquam Colossus is doing pretty well, man.


Man, the way he throws those shots out so quickly.


The Hydra's going down, as are the Link Bane.


Reynor还有时间重新补充部队吗


Max. Even if Rainer has 5,000 minerals and gas in the bank, he's


他的集结点上也有白球巨像

He's got Archon Colossus on top of his rally point.


这仍然是一个满人口的神族玩家

this is still a maxed out protoss player and


而且你没有任何喘息的空间

and when you don't have any room to breathe


他将不得不防御性地使用蝗虫

He's gonna have to use locus defensively to


正如我所说的 这些飞蛇 伙计 它们之前不在这里

out. As I said, these vipers man, they weren't here.


They needed to be here a while ago, along with Broodlord.


broodlords or ultras or something like that


But, the army is finally getting cleared.


叉叉正在清理这个第五基地

Zealots are clearing this 5th base though.


如果他能让Reynor回到四基地


而他自己仍然在四基地 作为神族保持基地数量相等是很好的

And he's still on full base being even bases as a protoss is great tries to


Even though that creep isn't there anymore


如果你最后一次通过迷雾看到那个区域时有菌毯

If the last time you saw that area through fog, there was...


并且只是移动命令探机到那里 因为他的多任务处理能力非常强

And just move commands the probe there because he's so good at his multitasking


他仍然从自爆球的射击中获得价值

He's still getting value out of the disruptor shots!


又一次大爆炸覆盖了Reynor

Another big boom boom all over Rainer and


Reynor无处可逃 无处可藏

And Rainer's got nowhere to run, nowhere to hide!


新一轮的白球进攻非常猛烈

Behind the Archons, the new round of Archons coming in is massive.


There's not that many gateways, but there's enough.


传送门足够多 伙计们 可以不断传送白球和叉叉

There is enough gateways guys to just keep walking in archons and zealots


巨像非常有价值 因为这整个军队都是轻型单位

The Colossus are so high value because this whole army is light units.


巨像对所有单位都有额外伤害

units. The closest do bonus damage against everything.


Reynor没有足够的单位来防守

There's just not enough units for Rainey to defend.


Maxpax终于在一片混乱中重建了他的五矿

the 5th base finally being rebuilt by Maxfax in the midst of everything else that is happening?


Maxpax的表现真是太棒了

And what excellent play from Maxpax there.


天啊 这张地图上的比赛真是太美了

Holy crap, that was a beautiful map there.


感觉像是一场25分钟的比赛 动作频出

So that felt like a 25 minute game, the amount of action there.


我真的觉得这是Maxpax在星际争霸中最好的部分 伙计们

And I truly feel that is MaxPak's best part of StarCraft guys.


他在星际争霸中 尤其是在PvZ中的最佳部分就是中期游戏

His best part in Starcraft, and in PvZ especially, is that mid game.


我们看到Serral只是龟缩起来


憋出大龙和地刺等东西 然后生存下来

get broodlords and lurkers and other things and just survive and


而Maxpax在战略上的大弱点是他无法

and Max Back's big weakness strategically is he


防守住他的五基地不被Serral攻破

Is he fails to defend his fifth base from Seryl?


所以他在四矿上停留太久 无法在对手升到三本科技时赢得比赛

So he sits on 4 base for too long and he can't quite win the game against a player who does get that hive tech up.


这对他来说有时是个大问题

And that's a big problem for him sometimes.


好了 伙计们 我们现在要进入一场对阵Clem的比赛了

Alright guys, we're gonna go into a game verse club now the


麦克风里的呼吸声是真实的

Now the breathing into the mic is real, the mouth...


鼠标和键盘的声音也是真实的


这次我会尝试把声音调高一点 可能会有点串音

I'm gonna try and have the sound up a little louder this time, but we will speak over each other, but


但希望你们能听到更多的游戏声音

But hopefully you get a few more game sounds you


你们能听到更多键盘的咔哒声

you get a bit more of that clickety-clack of the keyboard and you


你们可以在评论中告诉我你们更喜欢哪种

and you can all let me know which one you prefer in the comments.


下次 因为我确实觉得他的音频设置有点糟糕 但嘿 混合一下

for the next time because I do think his audio setup kind of sucks but hey mix it in there and


希望只要你们还能清楚地听到我在说什么 希望我们就没问题

and hopefully as long as you guys can still clearly hear what I'm saying, hopefully we're okay.


如果我回看视频时发现完全无法观看 我总是可以做一些平衡调整

I can always do a bit of balancing if it's absolutely unwatchable when I look back in the video.


anyways. Thanks for asking us, Clem, guys.


所以我们有Maxpax对阵雷诺

So we've got Magspike's First Reign and Magspike's Second Reign.


他在直播中也玩了一些人族和一些PvP

He does play some Terran, and plays some PvP's in this stream as well, so we'll see how he does.


所以我们以后可以做另一个视频

so we can always do another video looking at...


看看他的人族副种族 看看那些东西

looking at his Terran off-race, looking at that stuff in the future.


但希望因为我问他后他保持了他的回放公开 我说

But hopefully since he's keeping his VODs open after I asked him


asked him, I said, dude, can you keep your VODs open so I


这样我就不用找那些把这些视频上传到YouTube的人了

so I can actually look at these without having to find someone who's ripped these onto YouTube.


And he said, no worries, I can do that for you.


所以Maxpax总是非常友好


他实际上还公开了他的Twitch录像


He's even got his control group showing, which.


大多数职业选手不会这样做

which most pro players don't have because they're


因为他们觉得这会透露太多关于他们在游戏中如何编队之类的信息

because they feel it gives a little bit too much insight into like how they're organizing themselves in the game, they're planning a lot.


他们会隐藏那些编队不让别人看到

a lot of them hide those control groups from being visible.


而Maxpax就像是 随便吧


所以你可以看到他把探机放在二号键

So you can see he's got his scouting probe on two now.


现在 四号键在游戏后期会变成一个军队组

Now number four, that becomes an army group later in the game.


记住 他在上一局游戏中双先知分开时就

Remember that's what he put his second oracle on when he had the double oracles


是把第二个先知放在四号键上的


你可能会想 为什么要这样做

So you might be like, well, why have that?


因为在折跃门之前 你不需要......


你绝对需要为你的传送门编一个队

You absolutely need to have a control group your gateways if you


如果你们在游戏开始时不为传送门编队

if you guys don't control your group of your gateways at the start of the game I know


我知道大多数职业选手会说 当它变成折跃门时

I know most Pro Wrestling players, they go, but when it turns into a warp gate, it becomes...


它会自动绑定到W键 所以我不需要控制组

Group it comes on W, so I don't need to control group it.


我会说 这些选手在防守早期突袭时总是表现得很糟糕

it. I'm like, these players without fail suck at defending any early rush because


因为他们总是找不到自己的传送门

because they just they always like where's my gateway they have to go


他们不得不四处点击 然后建造一个叉叉

You have to go around and like click on it and then build a zealot.


我会说 天哪 拜托 编队吧

And I'm like, oh my gosh, come on, man, use your control groups, but


我是那种习惯于使用某个键位来控制传送门的奇葩

I'm like a weirdo who's just so used to using a certain key for my gateway, right?


而不是使用内置的折跃门快捷键 所以我一直在用它

rather than the inbuilt Warpgate hotkey that I just keep using it.


随着游戏进行 我一直需要为我的传送门设置控制组

and I keep having a control group my gateways as the game goes on and everything.


每个人都会问 为什么你要这样做

And everyone's like, why do you do that?


我会说 这只是一个陈年陋习 大家不要学

And I'm like, it's just an old habit guys. Don't do it better


better if you don't but you know as long as


只要你在早期游戏中为你的传送门编队 你就会没事的

As long as you control group your gateways in the early game, you'll be fine.


Maxpax作为新生代选手

Maxfax being a younger player is obviously.


显然是在这些利好玩家的机制加入之后才开始游玩的

obviously learnt to play the game after these friendly mechanics were in the game.


对这些机制的利用也是相当好


All right guys, so we've got adepts there.


星灵不给VR编队是正常的吗

Is it normal for protoss to not bind robbers to control groups?


我看他视角一直切回机械台造兵

So I saw Maxback's going back to his robos constantly to start building stuff.


我觉得他只是在给加速 伙计们

Think you're just corner boosting them guys I


我很确定他会把这些放在一个控制组里

I'm pretty sure he would have those on a control group.


如果他不把这些放在控制组里 那就太疯狂了

If he doesn't control group those, that's absolutely bananas.


我们在这场比赛中也会关注这一点

We'll keep an eye on it in this game as well.


如果他一直在手动操作这些建筑 那就太奇怪了

If he was manually building off them the whole time, that is super strange.


好吧 他看到了人族基地的建筑

All right, so he sees the command center building


He knows it's an expansion, he's keeping it.


这是Maxpax非常标准的闪追开局 伙计们

This is a very standard blink opening, guys, from Maxpex.


你好 不错 记住 如果你打第三下 你就能杀死死神

Hello, nice. Remember if you get a third hit you kill the Reaper


这就是为什么Clem必须非常小心 一旦他受到攻击

That's why Klam has to be very careful the moment he takes a hit.


Stargate is starting production right now


先知其实不是一个坏单位 但Clem打先知很有一套

Oracle's actually not a bad unit, but Clem has been dominating Oracle better.


但记住 大家都说先知在这个补丁中会更好

But I remember everyone said Oracle would be better this patch because


because it doesn't die instantly to the cyclone.


我们没有考虑到的是导弹车非常便宜

What we didn't account for is the fact that the cyclone is so cheap you


你只需留一个在家 先知就什么都打不到了

you just leave one at home and the oracle never gets any damage anymore.


而且她在防守端表现也不佳

And it's also not good at defending because


because the cyclones are so ubiquitous that...


Clem总是会用医疗船、地雷、

They're just, you know, Clem's always going to push you with a Madovac or Widowmaker.


一两个导弹车和八个枪兵来进攻你

Widowmine, a Cyclone or two, and eight Marines.


而先知就会觉得 我在这里什么也做不了

and the Oracle's just gonna be like, well, I can't do anything here, so.


所以我认为你有时可以用它进行有效的骚扰

So I think that you can sometimes get good harassment with it


但玩家们很难通过先知获得优势

it, but players just struggle to get good value out of the oracles.


他试图在空投出来时拦截它 但他没有看到

Right now he's trying to intercept it as it comes out, but he doesn't see it so he's


I'm Robo, very quick third and fourth caster.


注意他如何把二矿农民从矿上拉到气矿上

Notice how he pulls off minerals onto gas on his natural?


通常你不会在正常的建造中这样做

You normally would never do this with a normal build.


但在这个建造中 这样做是有道理的


为什么 因为这是一个非常依赖气矿的流程 走凤凰和巨像

Why? Because, very gas heavy build going Phoenix Colossus.


He's gonna pick up two of these widow mines


哦 Clem手动锁得很好


他们用地雷精准地瞄准了那一群单位

they're beautiful targeting with the widow mine on that clump


Maxpax应该再拉走几架探机

Maxpex should have pulled a few more perbs away.


如果你用三架探机换掉三颗地雷和一架医疗运输机

Guys, if you lose three probes for three Widowmines and a Mana Valk, that's...


Maxpax每场比赛都会先出控制芯核再出神族基地

First, MaxMax plays CyberCode before Nexus every single game.


在我看来 他的风格弱点之一就是

It's uh, in my opinion, one of the weaknesses of his style is


他总是探机侦查并且总是先出控制芯核

Is he always probe scouts and always goes core first?


而我认为如果他偶尔像herO一样赌一把

Whereas I do think if he gambled once in a while, like here, just...


不侦查直接出神族基地再出控制芯核

just did a no scout nexus before core opening i think


I think it would be really good for him.


我不认为他杀掉了所有的枪兵

I don't think he killed all of those yeah he pulled


Pulled back too early. That was a mistake.


So, I could tell he did the mistake he was...


he was focusing on the adept multitasking so he


所以他撤退凤凰时早了半秒 没注意到其中一个凤凰还在抓着一个枪兵

so he pulled back with his phoenix just half a second too early left one of them holding a marine without realizing it


这不太好 这不太好 伙计们

This is not good. This is not good guys.


他本应该杀掉两个枪兵 抓到几个人族农民 然后肆意进出

He should have killed both marines and got a few SCVs and got in and got out.


但现在从一个非常好的开局变成了

but that went from a very good start to now like


You've got a bit of mining time, you killed


你可能用使徒在二矿杀了两个SCV

you killed maybe two SCVs with the adepts on the natural.


He's like, wait, he's making a tank, this-


但现在他看到 好吧 现在只是3BB生化转星港

but now he sees okay now it's just three racks bio into starport


我想他对坦克有点困惑 因为他在想 为什么你要造坦克

And I think he's a bit confused at the tank because he's like well, why were you making a tank?


坦克对这种局面没有任何优势

Tanks don't really help you much against this style, unless you're...


unless you're doing a big dedicated push.


Of course the phoenix, the tank does help you defend.


总而言之 对付VS开的P


You don't want to build tanks and ravens, you want to build tanks and ravens.


你想要大量生物部队 兴奋剂

You want to just go lots of bios, stim, get...


获得地图控制 因为他还没有第三基地

get that map control but because he doesn't have a third base yet that is


He just sent that phoenix home while the other team was playing.


But it's being used for harassment, why?


while the phoenix are on this side of the map.


And he's going to lose quite a few probes about...


因为他当然保住了那架凤凰

since he does, of course, keep that alive.


凤凰在击杀渡鸦后回到前线

phoenix going back to the front now after killing the raven no


No, he didn't kill the raven. Raven's still alive.


渡鸦还活着 渡鸦 哦 终于死了

Raven still alive. Raven. Oh, there we go. It just died.


It was on the minimap in his main base looks like.


Maxpax开始时情况不错


I'm also worried that he doesn't have a sentry you


以防生物部队用兴奋剂冲上你的巨像

in case the bio-army stems onto be a colossus.


几只叉叉 即使没有升级 在这里也非常好

a couple of zealots even on upgraded are really good here because


因为叉叉便宜 而且在生命值和伤害方面性价比最高

because zealots are cheap and are the best stats in terms of hit points and damage for their cost.


So you want to just mix in a few zealots.


这样当生物部队用兴奋剂冲上来时 你的巨像开始后退

So that you can have something when the fire stims on top and your Colossus has started stepping back you want


你可以用不朽者和叉叉来击杀那些枪兵和光头

you want immortals and zealots to try and kill those marines and marauders


所以他会尝试抓住运输机 因为他觉得 你没有运输机

So he's going to try and catch the medivacs because he's like, hey, you don't have medivacs, where are you?


抓起 立即取消抓取 意识到不 不 不

Picks up, immediately cancels the pickup realizing no no no, but he's


but he's already delayed the push by a couple seconds.


i think he should have yeah viagra is three quarters of the way done that's the extended thermal lance upgrade's almost ready


四矿后先点一根水晶 下来了

He's got a pylon behind the fourth base. He's going to come down.


Come down, pick up the Marine, pick up the Marine, pick up the Marine.


Noice, but that gives up vision for a moment


我很喜欢这停巨像出OB的选择

I love the choice to stop Colossus production to build an Observer here.


因为是的 你的巨像数量很少

Because yeah, you're low on Colossus. Yeah.


是的 机械台的生产是很重要的


但如果你看不出军队从哪里进攻 你就有麻烦了 伙计

But if you don't see where the army's coming from, you're in trouble, man.


他现在正在转向地面部队 转锻炉和光影议会

He's going for the ground transition now into Forge Twilight his first time.


他的凤凰正在拼命地获取地图信息

His phoenix are desperately trying to get info on the map.


如果我是他 我现在会非常担心我的二矿会被大规模空投

I'd be really worried about a big drop coming in my natural if I was him right now.


他在南边有很好的视野 但在右侧没有

he's got good vision on the south but not on the right side and there we go


实际上 军队在底部试图阻止他开出四矿

Actually, the army's on the bottom, trying to deny him taking a fourth.


你可以假设Clem现在有第三个人族基地

You can assume there's a third command center now for Clem.


I doubt there's a third I doubt there's a five racks all in


对抗凤凰和巨像全力出五兵营似乎不是个好主意

Just doesn't seem like a good idea against Phoenix Colossus to go 5-Rax all-in.


如果你要全力出五兵营 你需要大量坦克

If you're going to do 5 racks all in, you want to play lots of tanks.


做一个大规模的坦克防空地堡推进

Do like a big tank-missile-turret-bunker-sorta-push? Oooo


地雷击中一个 击中他的一个凤凰

Oh weirdo mines, get one! Get one of his phoenix!


你可以看到他脚速 一攻和白球都快好了

but you can see he's almost got charge plus one and then archons


而Clem可能还需要一分钟才能有鬼兵

and Clem's not going to have ghosts probably for another minute so


所以如果你能用巨像、白球和叉叉攻击他

So if you can hit him with Colossus Arc on Zealot.


而他只有生物部队并且没有很多维京

And he's still just got buyer and he doesn't have a lot of vikings


因为记住 他的运输机真的很晚

Vikings because remember his Medivacs were really late.


so you got phoenix to fight the vikings number


首先 他不会有大量的维京

is number one. He's not going to have a huge Viking count.


哦 但生化的扎针反应很快

Oh, but great stim with the bio in here, can't it?


好的 如果他能回去 恢复盾 保持那些凤凰的存活

Okay, if he can just get back, regen the shields, keep those Phoenix alive.


Clem的地雷很狡猾 Clem很难对付 伙计们

Sneaky Widow mines for Clem man, Clem's hard to play against guys.


白球叉叉在这里 棱镜在这里

about the Archon Zealots here, the Prisms here.


He's going to take a 4th, but he's going to take a 3rd.


如果他能在鬼兵和维京出来之前进攻


Clem又该如何应对这里的巨像

How do you deal with Colossus right here as Clem?


你要么进行大规模包围并直接攻击

You either get a giant surround and just go for it, which is not what I'm doing here.


但这对抗白球叉叉不是最好的选择 因为你没有鬼兵

It's not the best against Archon Zealot because you don't have ghosts.


那还有什么 嗯 你需要很多维京

What else? Well, you need a lot of Vikings.


他还没有足够的维京来对付七个凤凰和三个巨像

He's not going to have enough Vikings to deal with 7 Phoenix 3 Colossus yet.


He doesn't have ghosts to deal with the archons.


据我们所知 这是一个很好的timing

As far as we know, this is a nice timing.


抓了一个很经典的timing


人们常说叉叉白球在TVP中毫无用处

People often say Zealot Archon is worthless vs Terran.


尽管有几次混乱的交战可能削弱了他的优势

Maxpax defended the early game pretty well even though there was a


但Maxpax在早期防守得相当不错

was a few messy trades that maybe mitigated his advantage going


鬼兵出来了 鬼兵出来了 但维京不多

ghosts are out ghosts are out but there's not many vikings


你要尽可能利用巨像的射程

You want to use the Colossus range here as best you can.


He needs the Colossus hitting the Marines.


The Colossus are clearing Widow mines right now.


他试图让巨像集中攻击枪兵

now. He's trying to focus the Colossus on the Marines.


如果他不锁定攻击枪兵 剩下的火力会太多

If he doesn't focus the Marines, there's gonna be too much firepower left.


Great forcefields! Clutch forcefields, keep it up!


Clem把SCV拉回去 这挺不错的

The SCVs get pulled back by Clem, which is pretty nice.


He's still got a few stalkers in Phoenix


If you can get rid of the Vikings and the tank...


那就是Clem唯一的远程火力 他就能击破他

Then that's the only ranged firepower for Clem and he can break him.


他开始在后面侦察他的四矿 这在那之前他没有做

He starts probing his fourth base behind it, which he was not doing till that point.


但他基于凤凰巨像开局  漂亮地抓住了叉叉白球巨像的timing出击

but he beautifully timed Zealot-Archon-Colossus timing attack off of the Phoenix Colossus opening.


这是你可以获胜的经典方式

done and that's a classic way you can get a win.


在职业比赛中你不常看到这种赢法

You don't see this that much in pro play, winning the game.


人们总是说 哦 白球叉叉巨像timing

People always say, oh, Archon, Zealot, Colossus timing.


如果你修正你的早期流程并且玩得非常干脆 它实际上效果非常好

If you fix your early game and you play a really clean early game, it actually works really, really well.


他是一个非常非常优秀的选手


I hope you enjoyed this point of view cast.


我想做更多关于Maxpax的解说

I want to do more of these of Max Max because


因为我真的觉得他在推动神族多线和多区域控制的极限

because I really feel he's pushing forward the edge of what protoss multitasking and control over multiple areas can do.


他对何时进攻、何时防守、骚扰、地图视野、防御性空投

his knowledge of when to push, when to defend, his harassment and his map vision.


和基地的掌握已经达到了一个新的水平

vision and his defensive drops and bases is just next level.


最近他在对战Clem之后变得越来越强

He's getting so good after playing against Clem lately.


如果你也期待看到更多Maxpax的视频

Let me know if you're excited to see more MaxPaks videos.


请在下方告诉我们 我们下次再见

down below and we'll see you in the next one.


今天Lowko给大家带来了一场星际争霸的职业比赛

My name is Loco and welcome back to a professional match of StarCraft 2


Today it's time for a Terran versus Protoss where we find ourselves on Berlingrad and


在地图的左上角玩弄着美丽的橙色SCV

And spawning right here in the top left-hand corner of the map, playing with the beautiful orange Terran SCVs.


这个颜色我们已经看过很多遍了


然而这位选手并不是荷兰人

He's not, however, representing the Netherlands.


他就是来自中国的TIME

He's from China and he goes by the name of time


而右下角的蓝色神族就是来自韩国的扛旗人Trap

His opponent in the opposite corner with the blue Protoss pieces from South Korea. One of the best Protoss players in the world and his name is Trap.


这场TIME和Trap在柏林加德的比赛我并没有看过

So time versus trap on Berlingrad now. I haven't seen this game, but


但是我听说这一场TVP时间很长

but I noticed that the replay timer of this particular TVP is very long, which is


在这张地图上选手们一般会打的比较激进

Because first off, Berlingrath is usually the map where players get more aggressive.


这是因为两者基地之间的距离确实很短

Just because well the rush distance from base to base from base to base is pretty quick, so


所以如果你想抓对手一个timing

So if you want to go for a strict timing attack, which


也是大多数TVP会选择的打法

which is the case in most Terran vs. Protosses.


你可以比其他地图更快几秒打到对手脸上

Yeah, you'll be able to hit your opponent in the face just a couple seconds faster than you wouldn't like for example a glittering ashes So you


所以在这个地图上的比赛一般都会快一些结束

So usually the games tend to end a little bit sooner because of that on Berlingrad, but...


我最近这一年看了许多TIME的比赛

Don't know I've seen many of times games over the years


所以他可能改变了一下自己的打法


但是他一直以来都是主动出击的那一方

But he's always yeah, I've been pretty aggressive


所以说如果他攒起来了一些部队

So if he gets a bunch of units out, he'll...