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We have found out that we are a U.S. (United States) Elector and we need to use that status to gain our inheritance and control our accounts. As said before, we as electors have to to meet the same qualifications as a member of the House Of Representatives per the Constitution. That age requirement is 25. So when you turn 25 you become a lawful elector. That's also when your body matures from a medical point of view.

People think the Right To Vote is 21. You can vote in a corporation or trust at 21. It was later changed to 18. But that is being a Voter. There is a big difference between being a Voter and an Elector.

All the judges are supposed to be electors. The House of Representatives are supposed to meet the same qualification as an elector.

You can only represent another person if you are not in debt. You must be debt free. If you are under bondage to someone else, you can not represent someone if you are oblligated to someone else who can control you.

So most of these judges are not properly qualified if they are not qualified electors. And if they are qualified electors, they would have control of their accounts also. Robb Ryder has said that over 90% of the judges are not qualified because the do not meet the qualifications of an elector.

The same thing holds true with the president of the United States, he has to be qualified as an elector. People are worring about his birth certificate. That does come into play. But he has to be under no obligations to any other entity. I don't think there has been one president who is unbonded at least since JFK.

So that's the situation we are in. All the House Of Representatives ans all the Senators are under bondage. They are corporate employees.

98% percent of the people in thhis country are just voters. There not electors. If you read some of the definitions in the dictionary you will see this.

From Ballentine's dictionary:
elector - a person having constitutional and statutory qualificaions which entitle him to vote, including not only one who votes but who is qualified and yet fails to exercise the right of suffrage.

voter - 
1) one who expresses his choice of candidates or measures offered or proposed at an election by marking a ballot or indicating his choice by appropriate act upon a voting machine. 
2) one possessing the legal qualifications of an elector so as to be entitled to vote.

You have to know what Legal is. The last paragraph of LEGAL in Anderson's dictionary is very telling. Legal looks more to the letter and lawful to the spirit of the law. Legal for positive conformity to the rules of law is more appropriate. Lawful is in accord with ethical principles. Legal imports rather that the forms of the law are observed, that the proceeding in correct in method, that rules prescribed have been followed. Lawful, that which the act is right in substance, its moral quality is secured. Legal moreover is the antithesis of equitable and the equivalent of constructive.

So all these courts and judges are acting as legal judges. They are not lawful judges. The actions in court are of a constructive nature. They are trying to construct a case against you. You have to take their construction permit away from them. You send them packing. If they started digging on the sonstruction site, they must return the site to its original condition.

Look up restitutio in integrum -- 
1) restitution to the original state or unbroken condition, 
2) in civil law placing the party in the position he occupied before he was introduced into a contract by reason of fraud, force, fear, mistake or mental incapacity.
3) in maritime law, putting a vessel it was in before a collision.

Now, if they arrest you, they have to restore back to you the harm that has been caused. They impound your vehicle, that is a vessel. They have placed it in bondage, you had to pay to get it out. You have to be restored for the deprivation of the usage of that vessel and also for the impound fees of that incarceration before the collision, the arrest of that vehicle.

Look up in Ballentines votes cast in an election --
1) number of voters voting
2) in the absence of a certification of the number of electors voting, the court must presume that the highest number of votes cast for candidates of any office represents the number of electors voting.

That phrase tells you one hell of a lot. An elector is a preferred shareholder. The voters are the common shareholders. If the preferred shareholders vote one way, it don't make a hill of beans what the common shareholders vote, it's going to go in favor of the preferred shareholders. They are the ones that count because they are the ones that are the true creditors. The voters are just debtors and wannabes.

Now you have chance under electio est creditoris. The creditor has his election. The debtor has his election. Everybody now has been voting as a debtor by utilising their contracts or your votes when you sign a contract. You're voting.

When you register to vote with the state you are doiing an absentee ballot. You are handing over your vote to that debtor representative. There are very few in those Senates or Houses Of Representatives at the state or federal level that are not debtors. They are all operating under a Social Security Number which makes them a debtor. They get kickbacks because now they are corporate employees just like Enron. They siphon off the funds and then hand it off to the employees or te management.

The United States is nothing more than a trust. But it is a bankrupt trust and we are the electors standing over them. The highest government official in America is not the president. The highest government official is the United States elector. He is the one that has the power to put the president into office. He also has the power to take the president out.

How many electors does it take to remove somebody (in the government) from their trust office. The answer is TWO. It's right in the Constitution, article 3 section 3. 

Section 3: 1:  Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.  No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

By two you can impeach for trason of office. If you go into court, you always take a backup elector with you once you have you status as elector. You have them sit in the peanut gallery. You make you motion by asking the judge "are you qualified"? You don't care whether he has a bond or anything like that. "Are you qualified to be a judge per the law"? They have to be an elector. If they are not, they are fraudulently trying to appear lawfully as being a judge, giving a false appearance. You make you motion "I vote to impeach you for treason of office and you are in violation of the law".

Violation of the law - the failure to observe the law whenever by act of commission or commission. In its ordinary sense, the expression includes the violation of a positive law whether the law is a civil or a criinal law.

The judge is in violation of the constitutional of the land, of the state constitional and the national constitution. All judges at the national level are supposed to be electors. They are to be at least 25 years of age and to have claimed their accounts. They are to be debt free, under no bondage.

In court, in all the actions they are part of, they are nothing but a referree. They are a referree just like in a tennis match. This is the easiest comparison because it is normally one player against another player. You have the ball. You drop and hit the ball and the ball goes over to the other side. But is you stand in as an elector, what you cast as a vote counts, you just scored an ace on them.

You keep the vote from the other side because vote is nothing but the word "will". It is your will. In the corporate world they can not have a will so that's why they turned around and changed it to vote. The vampire scenario, V.

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You hand it over to them and they will vote against you every time because they are ther to make a profit for the corporation or the trust. But if you vote as a U.S. Elector, you have them at your mercy. They have to comply with your will, your vote. That's what a vote is all about, your will. And they can't have a will in a corporation. 

So to accomplish this, we must do  a Voting Ballot as a true creditor and we cast our vote. That's the new document put up yesterday, Official Voting Trust Elector Ballot. I sent mine in to my chief judge. Now if that chief judge is not qualified, we should say something like this, "Note: If you are unable to comply with the validation of my U.S. Elector Voting Ballot because of being lawfully unqualified, you are directed to forward it to a senior judge the is constitutionally and statutorily that is qualified as a U.S. Elector debt free of bondage as required by the Constitution law of this nation."

Why do these courts not recognize the Constitution? Because they are operating in a legal sense, a constructive sense. They take bits and pieces of whatever they want to try and build the building and they try to build that building around you to fence you in. You have to vote to remove their permit. You vote them out of existence.

This is really pretty simple. When you look further at being an elector, looking in the dictionary, one of the words you find after ELECT is ELECTRICITY. Oh, is an elector like a conductor of electicity? If we are the key elector, we came from the land, we are going back to the land, what conductor are we? We are the ground. Every circuit must go to ground or back to ground. What color is the ground wire? Green. Usually green. You can see this by poppng the hood on your car and disconnecting the ground wire from the battery. Try and start the car. Nothing. So why is this country not operating as it should? Because there are not enough grounds to make it function properly. They are going around in a circle to try and find the ground.

We came from the land. We will return to the land. We are the grounding rod, the grounding wire. we have to make the connection to the circuit. This is what Neo did in the movie Matrix. How did he destroy Mr. Smith? He took him to ground, grounded him out. Poof! Gone!

Someone asked about the $25,000 on the Elector Ballot. I wanted some temporary funds. If they can't complete it in 3 days I want some funds so I can start grounding some of this debt money. Put it into something of substantional usage and benefit, a vehicle for example. We grounded some of that debt. The bad Mr. Smith, we killed one of them off. Those funds will come from my account which I have the right to ground out as a U.S. Elector and a trustee over the U.S> corporate trust.

I have two Voting Trust certificates. One is my Certificate of Live Birth, the other is my DD214 form for my military service. Those are voting trust certificate but you have to be a United States of America elector.

Look up ELECT in the Oxford Universal Dictionary.
Elect - 1) one of God's chosen 2) chosen by God for eternal life. You are chosen to be one of the Elect when you turn 25. 

There is one woman in the group that has a son around 23. He is up on charges of identity theft.
The identity theft alleged was because he was using "El" in front of his name. He got this from a misunderstanding of what the usage of EL was for. This comes from the Moors who use El in front of their name. As long as you are over the age of 25 you can use El in front of your name because El is really standing for Elector just like Mr. That is validated by the fact that that is what the US Department of Justice is charging him with. He's not qualified to use El in front of his name.

This is a good one. I'm sorry for the kid but he can apologize and get out of this one now that he and his mother knows what's going on. She can take over and come in as an elector and vote in his behalf as an elector. If the judge judge tries to blow past them she can vote to impeach him. She better have another elector in the peanut gallery so they can stand up and say "I second that motion and I also vote to impeach you". Now you have two voting for impeachment per the constitution right there in open court.

People think they know what the Constitution says but they really don't understand it. That is our controlling document over the corporate trust. We have the power. When we get little tidbitd like this coming from the Justice Department stating that the usage of El is very key in identity theft, they just told us one hell of a lot. When you use Mr. when you sign something, you sign El. I should have signed my Voting Ballot which I sent out yesterday as El. Patrick; Devine. 

There is a movie that validates this idea, El Cid with Charleton Heston taken place 1000 years ago in Spain. El Cid (the Lord) was one of the Elect. He didn't take the kingship when asked to. He wanted to stay as the elect because he could do better justice from the position he was in. So you're going to be El. not Mr. or Mrs.

When you get out you follow what is required by the Bible, you're going to become and elf. What color to elves wear? Green. You don't have to get the green tights, jacket and hat. You will be able to help the homeless, the widowed, the handicapped as an elf handing out the presents. So stand by to become an elf. And you will be grounding things all over the place.
 
So that the gist of it, that we are a U.S. Elector, where U.S. stands for the consitutional United States Of America and the corporate UNITED STATES which has only employees. They have classifies us as a debtor so that we are operating under false presumptions.

Too many people shoot their mouth off. If you don't fully understand things, then make a simple statement and shut the hell up. They will let  you talk yourself right into your own grave. Most people run off their mouths thinking they know something they really don't know everything about. They don't know what the words fully mean. Then the court turns around and uses that against you. You don't know the rules of the game. They use those against you too. You can't double dribble in this game. That's one of their rules. 

When I went to the Court of International Trade, they said "this just comply with the rules". I didn't see it at that time but I was in the wrong place. That was a legal court, not a lawful court. A lawful court doesn't have all those bullshit rules. They deal in equity. 

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When we are recognized as an elect, if the chief judge does not have the qualifications, he is to forward it to a senior judge. Or go to the next court level above that, the supreme court justice over the circuit court or to the court of appeals. Or send it dirsctly to a senior judge, because most of them have already claimed their accounts and are not on the payroll. They are there for life because they like their job and they are waiting for someone to show up and stand in as a United States elector per the constitution.

I covered everything. We can now go over the Ballot document. The Voting Trust U.S. Elector is of age (over 25). If you are under 25, you are just a voter. You would go into court and cast your vote as an AEl, an apprentice elector, not El., until you reach the constitutional age of 25.

You have to be the sole inherit owner of your voting trust certificate as the bailor,creditor and banker.

You vote whether to allow the US BANKRUPT to continue your voting trust, yes or no. Take out a pencil and put a checkmark on a piece of paper. I can guarantee that you made a V with a right hand handle. That checkmark says I vote to the right, I valid date this as a lawful vote. In accounting, you make a checklist, you are voting to the right saying I concur that this is correct. I have never seen anybody vote to the left with a left-handed checkmark.

These are little things that many people don't think about, asking why is it like that. Think outside the box. They have done a good job of boxing us in.

We get rid of fictional quasi-US-bankrupt person, we execute him, we vote for the execution.

Then we vote to terminate and liquidate all the following bankrupt bailee/debtor bailments that we handed over to our US bankrupt. Then all of those funds come back to you because you are the bailor.

You can go into the bankruptcy laws of 1938 and 1976. This is where I found about this voting trust. but what I started out looking for in these laws was the word BAIL. The 1938 act was 100 pages. The 1976 act was over 120 pages. The word bail only came up three times and it was referencing bailiff, not bailee, not bailment, not bailor, just bailiff. If you have a bailiff, there has to be a bailment, a bailee and a bailor. But it's not there. They hid it. Where did they hide it? I found the US Trustees can vote for anything except a voting trust certificate. They can't vote it. The only way they get to vote that is if you refuse to vote it like in bankruptcy.

The US Trustee takes your vote and determines if you are going to get something. They put stipulations on bankruptcy you can't do things like student loans. But yes you can. You have to do it as the bailor. You have to be the one doing the voting and not give it over to the US bankruptcy.

But you could have done this all before by settling the item it is your signature on the document as the creditor. After 3 years that item is fully paid for. All you have to do is order the setoff against it. But you have to come in in the right capacity as the bailor or when you become an elector and you can ground anything out that is associated with you.

When you are out as an elector you can vote for somebody else if they are incompetent. You step in as a proxy when they give you the right to vote their share. You're going to vote the right way, not the way of the prosecutor. You keep the vote out of the prosecutors hand. Giving your vote to the prosecutor is like calling in your backup quarterback because he can through the deep pass. Let him do it. He's got the arm for it. Let him go the distance. Call on help when you need it.

Sit down and break out the dictionairies. Don't argue with these people trying to show them how much you think you know. They will sit there and say "oh, that sounds good and so does that". Make your statement and get out. Drop it of. See what happens. If it doesn't operate, then we know we have to go somewhere else. You have to keep looking for the whole in the fence to make your escape.

That's what we've done. Several of us are already ahead of the game because when you liquidate and terminate all those bailments, then you have to transfer the voting trust certificates and assets and its bailments. You have to remove them from DTC/ Cede&Co depository over to your protected foreign grantor trust in a US Treasury Department depositary account. That would be under your 98 or 99 EIN number.

You're sending this into the judge your Voting Ballot for him to do the final vote counting and validation. He is also going to validate that you are a U.S. Elector. Now you have the validation from a court recogognizing you as such. Now that state Attorney General, that state Secretary of State have to give you your properidentification by placing you upon the green sheet giving you a green status, a green identification card and a green passport. 

The Clerk of the Court will be the one that will write up the Writs of Restitution and the Writs of Execution based upon the judgement of this judge doing the final vote and validation.

We are supposed be the Prince of the Sovereign, the nation, the elect. We don't need to do the paper work. I don't think you ever so Neo do any paper work in the movie Matrix yet he was the one who saved everybody. So I going to stop doing all this paperwork for you guys. This is the final paperwork. This is it.

Look this over. If you don't get recognizition from where you sent it, you put the statement in which I will restate it, "Judicitial Qualifications: Note: 
If you are unable to comply with the validation of my U.S. Elector Voting Ballot because of being lawfully unqualified, you are directed to forward it to a senior judge that is constitutionally and statutorily qualified as a U.S. Elector debt free of bondage as required by the constitution laws of this nation." Put them on notice that you know that if they are unable that they are also unqualified as a judge and that you could come after them and do a vote of impeachment for treason at any point of time. All you need need is a second elector.

By two you can take anybody out of office. It only takes two votes to do that. It takes quite a few to get them put them in office but it is very simple to get them out of office now that we know the game. But we have to be standing as a U.S. Elector.

You really want to shake them up. Go and put a license plate on your vehicle, ELECTOR. Above that put a smaller U.S. If they arrest you, you are going to vote yourself right out of that charge. You will vote to be compensated for the harm.

That what we were missing in court, is coming as an U.S. Elector but we would have to submit our Ballot ordering the removal of being classified as a debtor. As an elector, you  have the right of choice, free choice, free will. You can either be a debtor or a creditor. 

You can be a grounding rod or one that just floats around in the circuit bouncing off the relays, resistors, capicitors etc. being held in captivity until you are released. This whole thing is nothing but a major electrical circuit board, a sort of Matrix. But to make it function properly we need more grounding rods to dissipate these false debts, to get rid of the Mr. Smiths. We take them to ground and they disappear. 

I covered everything that I've talked about with several people over the last day and a half. Let's open it up to some questions.

Q. I've been processing these documents for myself and daughter, she's 23. She can't officially sign out of the system until she's 25. 

A. No. You would have to come in as a guardian until she turns the age of 25. she is still an apprentice. 

Q. So my son who is 14, I should list all his documents on my documents, right?

A. I would get yourself out first. You need to get your standing first. Your will be a qualified elector, you will have a better standing. It's same as going after a death certificate for a father or mother, you get your standing first befor going after that.

Q. What's the difference between the El. in front of the name and in back of the name? 

A. It was El Cid not Cid El. You want your title out front. It was King Arthur not Arthur King, President Johnson not Johnson President. Think simple.

Q. I had my Writs already to go. Do these papers supercede the Writs?

A. No. Put the Writs aside. Get that Ballot in? When you send the Ballot in you send it by certified mail using a green certified mail label, we want green. No overnight express or registered mail. Both of those have a 9 digit number which are CUSIP numbers. The Post Office will initiate a $25000 insurance bonded policy against those number when you use them, when they go into the cash register, a certified mail label will not. You put a green card, another green item with it, and I would mark that Restricted Delivery box. It will cost you another $5. Print your Ballot out on green paper. You want everthing in the green. Show them you are the grounding rod. And that you are Irish also, you will be wearing the green.

Q. I have have friends who are Irish and call themselves the Black Irish. 

A. I'm Irish. Like I told Bill, you know what the difference between an Irishman and a black man is? An Irishman is just a black man pulled inside out. When the Irish came over to this country, the vast majority of them were indentured servants. They were slaves also. But t hey were given a slightly higher classification, indentured servants. It's still a slave but it's more puritan way of describing it. People don't know all the history about this country. 

Q. They don't know any. It's all lies. Most of it isn't written. 

A. It's not going to be written. That's the problem. They don't want it written. 

Q. The stuff that was they pulled off the shelves. 

A. They've hidden it away. Like all these museums. Yes, they are history, but you can take a bunch of pictures but put all the gold back for circulation among the people. You don't need to have it sitrting in a stinking museum. That's like being in the Pharoah's crypt. When they buried that gold with the Pharoah they were depriving the people of that asset, that exchangement, because it's minerals that came from the land. It belongs to people that are living, not to some dead shithead.

Q. That's why they have grave robbers, right?

A. Well, the grave robbers were trying to do something right. It's claimed that they are doing it wrong. No. The Smithsonian and other are really the true grave robbers because they are locking it away from the people too. There are so many assets, so many properties of gold, other than being used as a currency that could have helped this country and the whole world. It's a noble metal. You take gold through the spectrum and break it down. It has different properties at different frequencies. You cause a different resonance in that noble metal and it will generate a different phenomenon. 

Q. Some foods have gold and silver in them too.

A. Yeah. Platinum, rubidium, silver, gold.

Q. ???lium, indium, monoatomic superconductors.

A. You get them to operate at their various resonances. That's what this is about, resonances and harmonics. But the body operates on DC. We're not set up for AC. That's why many of the diseases come from the AC circuits in your house.

Q. Can women use El in front of their name also?

A. Yes. You're an elector, one of God's chosen, chosen by god and your spirit to live for your eternal life. The life you are lliving is your eternal life. That's in the Oxford Universal Dictionary 1933. Eternal life, EL also. You have external life, a corporate entity can disappear tomorrow.

Q. Archangels have name like like Michael, Rafael, ...

A. Let's not worry about angels right, let's just focus on being electors. Try that in the next life time. 

Q. I've got about 40  years left.

A. No, you have more. This is one of the house you have to live in. This is Piscis we are in now. There are twelve grades in school. You didn't just live in kindergarden or first grade. You had to go to the next grade and you had to keep adding on as you went up the ladder until you got through all twelve grades and graduated. That's how the game is played. You have to know the rules of the game.

Q. So you have not sign as Mrs. but use El in front of your name.

A. Yes, EL. El Joan; Smith. I'm El Patrick. You can do your ELECTOR license plate. You can say, yes, go ahead and charge me, I'll vote the damn charge away. I think all the Senators just have U.S. SENATOR on their plates. They are exempt when they are driving that senator's vehicle. You, a U.S> Elector, are the highest government official in the country, higher than the president. We elect the president except that now there are few qualified electors so they are replacing them with voters and there are not enogh electorss to boot those voters out. 

Q. That's why it's the electoral college.

A. It's supposed to be a body, a college, of electors, the preferred shareholders, not the debtor voters. Few preferred shareholders are standing up.

Q. I was able to get my 98 number today, I got it under a different name...

A. Forget it. If you're having trouble getting, don't worry about it. Get your Ballot in. Then when you get your assets out of the DTC/Cede&Co, you specify that the Treasury place these funds in a U.S. depositary in a foreign grantor trust. If you don't have one, they will set it up for you.

Q. I have my original birth certificate, Do I send that or order another copy?

A. Send a copy, don't send the originals in, even of the CoLB. You say, you come and see me if you want the originals with the raised seals. I've got mine sitting here. But bring $25,000 with you, I need some extra cash. A lot of people don't realize that that federal court house is nothing but a federal bank. They have walk-in vaults especially in the bankruptcy clerk of court's office. What do they have a walk-in vault for? How many times have you gone to an old post office prior to the 1960s, not a brand new one, they have a walk-in vault. Why? Because the post office was the peoples' bank. Now all they hold in those vaults are stamps. Stamps are real money.

Q. The Ballot asks for us to be given green passports and green IDs. When people who are not citizens come here to work they get a green card. Is that similar?

A. They are putting them in a different status. They are coming not as a debtor yet. Their assets are still elsewhere. When they are naturalized, their assets are transferred to this country and they are given a bailment.Then they take the green card away from them. Why were you even asking that question? Are you on a green card?

Q. No!

A. Why are you worrying about that? I'm focusing on getting ahold of our assets, and you come in with something completely off the wall.

Q. So we ignore everything else for now and concentrate on our elector status.

A. Yes. You are qualified as an elector, aren't you? Read the constitution. The president has to be a qualified elector, like members of congress, they must be at least 25 years of age and can not be in debt to somebody else which would not let them give proper representation, free unbonded representation to another. So we don't have any lawful representatives in Washington DC because they are all in bondage. That's why we get these crappy codes which don't apply to an elector, because the nation was created by the electors, We The People, the Shareholders.

I strongly urge you to listen to this call several times so that you have a good understanding of what we ae doing. Look up the words voter, elector, anything dealing with vote,  read them all. Do a comparison of more than one dictionary. See what the differences are and which dictionary they use in court.  Analyze the words they use. You have to be smarter than the average bear. They will try to get  you out of bounds so they can get your vote away from you. They may call for a psychiatric evaluation. Vote NO! I do not consent. I veto! If you have the right to vote, you have the right to veto. You have the right to veto their statutes, codes of law and additional requirements out of the books, off the table. They are trying to change the rules of the game on you. But you have to know what the rules of your game is when you go in there. You won't need to get in there any more when when you can come in and vote everything off the table. 

Q. So the Ballot replaces the Case, we don't have to submit the case? They are going to do the Writs, not us.

A. Right. They work for us. WE come in as the Elector. This is what the problem was. Why did they charge us? Because we were coming in as a debtor. But if you come in a elector, they can't charge you for something they have to give to the elect. You're one of the elect now.

Q. I noticed you took out the wording about us sending in further ddocuments to be rendered later. Is this a one shot deal or do we wait until we get an elector status first and submit more documents later.

A. When they come and see you, you can hand the additional items over. If you didn't list something, don't worry about it. Get the key documents in. If you get your marriage kicense or something else later, you can say you would like to see if there any any assets connected with that. Bankruptcy cases. They stay open for about ten years. They are still drawing against it. We calling in the Secret Service to do the accounts rendered. Most of these accounts go through the Social Security account, which is the transmitting utility to draw against your voting trust account. The SS number is key. When you get a drivers license, voter registration, registered your vehicle, your house, opened a bank account, got utilities, you have to give your Social Security. That is the transmitting utility number. When they close that account down, they will know all the other accounts that are attached to that. They have the books. You don't have them. The Secret Service controls that whole system know as the Enterprise Financial Management System. Get what you've now. 

Q. You mentioned Elector's personal Identification.

A. I went down to the sheriff several years ago and got a private set of fingerprints and they took my picture and gave me a private ID without my Social Security number. If you don't have it, forget it!
This is a work in process. Use what you have.

Q. Someone said Gary talked with the Secret Service. Was it a positive visit?

A. I don't know whether he is on the call tonight.

Q. No he isn't.

A. The key thing on this call tonight was situation with identity theft. That's the biggest damn thing you have tonight. If the Justice Department is recognizing EL as being the elector, and they charge someone 23 using it with identity theft, that is so monumental right there. So if the Justice Department recognizes it, that means if you are 25, you are home free. That's a huge clue.

Q. El Patrick, I have a question. Since I am way over 25, I can start using El Gita; M... I'm not going to get visited if I start signing my checks that way.

A. No. No. You don't do that there. If you are still in the commercial debtor system, you are not an El. When you come out, you don't use any commercial transactions. Stay away from the devil, the bankers, the moneychangers. What am I going to do?! I need a debit card?! I need this?! I need that?! There will be other means. I've described them before. AS  a U.S. Elector, you send the bill to the U.S. Treasury Department and order them to set it off. You will take that asset out of the debt bank and take it to ground.

Q. We all need to listen to these calls a few naps, then take a nap and become a new person. We have to delete all this stuff we have in our head. Listen to the calls of the last month. I'm not joking about the nap. That's  how the mind erases itself.

A. The biggest move was finding in the bankruptcy acts about the voting trust, then about being an elector and then getting a confirmation fro the justice department about the usage of El. Little tidbits that most people overlook and don't see. Read the documents. Understand them. Look up words you don't understand in more than one dictionary. The best are Anderson's and Ballentine's. Compare them to Bouvier's and Black's and the civil Oxford Universal or old Webster's. Look in old book store. They may be pretty cheap because nobody wants to read the dictionaries. That where the law is because the law is all in the words. If you don't understand the words, you miss a while lot. 

Try ABE books, Goodwill, Salvation Army, thrift stores. People die and often the books go there.

Anything else? Let's call it a night. How many on the call? 25. It's a sad state of affairs. This is the answer everybody wants and so few are ready to listen. It will be up to you guys to get yourself out and spread the word.

Q. Patrick, remember they condemned my home? I went in there and got the head to blow his fuse in front of his peers. I can do anything I want. It felt so good to know who I am.

A. Yes. You come in as a U.S. Elector and say that you are qualified per the constitution and the statutory laws, that you are not a fiction and that I vote and here is my vote. You cast your vote against the corporation as a preferred shareholder. The preferred shareholder is not subject to the corporate laws only the common shareholders are.

Q. I'm taking my property tax bills and say forward to the trustee, I no longer the trustee.

A. No. You are the trustee, you are the elector. Order them to settle it. You are voting for them to set that charge off. Dissipate it. Take it to ground. You want a new vehicle? Get an invoice and send it to US Treasury saying you are a U.S. Elector and I want this vehicle. Make it happen.

Talk to guys later.