| Thomas says: Patrick has a new folder with some new files; none of which are filled out | |
| in terms of examples, they are in the previous folder and are still active; go through both folders. | |
| What this bounty hunter seems to be is part of our enforcement. Patrick speaking: | |
| One of the key things out here is... I posted a clip from Rod Class's call on that date (July 8th); he had one or two good points | |
| but he is still not there; he is doing things wrong; he is using an attorney group with BAR licenses, that will get him into trouble in the long-run. | |
| None of these BAR-licensed people are really working for us in the process. The key he brought out is being a bounty hunter. | |
| I went out and started looking at the bounty hunter; I knew like the DD214 was classified as a bounty, but I have been talking about pay. and perf. bonds | |
| I should have caught on that these are bailment bonds that we have; even when we did our non-uccs we addressed our fiction as being the bailor | |
| bailing all the bailments back to us as the bailee under our non-ucc filing of bailee/bailor, so that would make all of these perf. and pay. bonds | |
| under these ucc contract trusts--bailments, to come back to us--bail bonds. One of the other things is we have a foreign grantor trust. | |
| We are a foreign state to the like the UNITED STATES (all caps) and to the STATE OF (all caps), these are foreign commercial states | |
| they are illegal states in all actuality. If you go in and read the constitution: article 4 section 3 it states: new states may be admitted by congress | |
| into this union but no new state shall be formed or erected within the jurisdiction of any other state. | |
| Therefore, the state of Iowa is an illegal state, unconstitutional, and it is a state of insurrection against the republic of iowa. OK? | |
| So right there they are violating the constitution. All these BAR attorneys... Rod mentioned them starting up in Florida; they came in and what they are is: | |
| a foreign commercial banking bounty hunter; I have been trying to figure out how and what charges these BAR attorneys and courts are filing against our assets | |
| I knew or had heard about one public defender that quit; he was being paid $500 to get somebody off the charges, but if they went to jail, $1350. | |
| Where was that coming from? The bailment bonds from whatever charging instrument they were using: driver's license, marriage license, SS account, whatever. | |
| The court would come in under their BAR association and they would file a bounty hunter's claim of 10% against the perf. bond of that ucc contract trust | |
| against the perf. bailment bond. But they would come in as a bounty hunter; see they have been using this bounty hunter game out here all along. | |
| We did not see that we are the only valid bounty hunters out here. We do not need a state license, but were given a badge number when we got our FGT. | |
| Write that down; Foreign Grantor Trust. We are a foreign state to these commercial states, therefore we are a federal government. | |
| That is what the foreign stands for in that FGT. We were the grantor; initial bailor bailing part of our inheritance to fund these ucc contract trust accounts | |
| and therefore they are trust--and thus you get TRUST in the FGT. You now have that FGT EIN, that is what I have for my fed gov owner/bounty hunter badge number | |
| and then the date that that was issued, it all fits! Now, we the people are the owners of america, not the nat'l or foreign commercial government | |
| we are the federal government and that was established per the articles of confederation; federation is a grouping of people united in one combined process. | |
| But they did not use federation when they set up the constitution, they used the phrase "we the people" because the sovereignty of the states could not do it, | |
| it had to be the people, the sovereignty of the people, the estate-owners, the men that were setting up this country. | |
| 13:00 | |
| This is all throughout history and ... women to stay and defend the home, be part of estate supposed to be bonded to (dead) father/husband | |
| by way of the estate. Live with it, do not abuse it, OK? It is the same process that the birds and the bees use too. They protect the females. | |
| Who wears the flashy clothes in the bird kingdom? the male, not the female, so if you want to wear all your flashy jewelery and skimpy outfit | |
| you will get exactly what you deserve: treated like a slut. OK enough of that; back on target to being a bounty hunter. | |
| We are an executive bounty hunter and owner as we the people are in every one of the state and nat'l constitutions, we have the sovereignty | |
| the state republic had sovereignty also for certain items. there is only 15 valid amendments to the constitution; there are 10 others | |
| known as the 10 commandments, that is the universal commandment laws that you were supposed to live by. You know those... | |
| Father and mother: father is your spirit, that is who brought life into you. Mother: not really your mother, just the "kitchen help" | |
| she took all the minerals, mixed them into a bowl and shot out a loaf of bread, she did not bring you life; your spirit brought life to that baby | |
| the true mother was mother earth that gave you all the minerals, the makeup in the proper perspectives; that is who "honor thy father and mother": | |
| the earth and also your spiritual father. So enough misunderstandings about religion. We also have 15 american commandments out here to set the stage | |
| for what we are supposed to be doing in this country and the authority that we have to do them with. | |
| The people only have 25 commandments that you have to know; 25 laws and that's it, all this other stuff is falsehood, it's for corporations | |
| you are not a corporation unless you volunteer into the corporate world. 16-27 are invalid amendments but have not been taken to the supreme court | |
| to force the supreme court to have them removed from the books because the people did not know they had the power to do that. | |
| Those amendments all infringe upon the peoples' rights that are laid out in the 9th and 10th amendments, the estate owners men when they come of age, 21 | |
| and start claiming their estate; and also the state sovereignty is addressed in the 9th and 10th amendments. one of these 16-27 amendments... | |
| took rights away from the state and gave them to this public democracy people out here running around and thinking THEY are the ones that choose senators | |
| No, the state congress, the sovereignty of the republic of the state was supposed to choose the senator who was supposed to protect the rights of the states | |
| the representatives were supposed to protect the rights of the people. See, people do not know how to read this constitution. OK? | |
| We basically have the right to basically pick up our persons from these foreign states as the bounty hunter. | |
| We can go out and bring them back to the republic, that is all we have to do. | |
| "No persons shall be held to service or labor... but shall be delivered up on claim to the party to whom service and labor may be due" | |
| All of our fictional persons' service and labor is due back to us as we are the owner, not to these commercial foreign BAR banking agents | |
| claiming to be a valid bounty hunter. Items like title 15 usc section 1 & 2 to where they have a million dollar item per individual, | |
| a 100 million dollar for a corporation for violating rights of trade, for monopolizing under section 2 the right of trade. | |
| What are those values? Those are the warrant rewards, and as a bounty h unter you can put a claim in against that million dollars, | |
| turn those people in; turn their bonds in. How do you get the bonds? go to the sheriff, try to get the ein from the county attorney, clerk of court, | |
| magistrate judge... they will not give it to you; you have to go to the sheriff with your federal government owner's and bounty hunter's badge of authority | |
| and order the release of that bond number. Then you put your bond claim in using the SF30 and the SF25 (perf. for corporate contruction) | |
| or SF25a (the corresponding pay. bond). Now whether they operate with those or the 1416/1418, I don't know. | |
| I would do: 25/25a for a corporation, 14-series for an individual. You take those to district court or federal bankruptcy court. | |
| Watch some of these movies out here that talk about bounty hunters. You go to the court: you can also take in your bounty hunter's receipts | |
| using the SF1047 and put a claim in for that. Now we turn around and we will take our items back into the court. | |
| Verdell (member) put her SF30 in, had her bankruptcy case reopened, it got re-shut down in a way, but the result was: | |
| the trustee was fired, he no longer had any control over her assets so now she has to come back in as the bounty hunter | |
| with her SF30, her badge of authority, her bounty hunter's badge which is her 98-series number, and then with the SF1414, 1416, 1418 | |
| and come in as the bounty hunter claiming the 10% right now against the bailment bonds. As the owner on the badge, | |
| they would have 3 days to get those processed for total liquidation of those bailment bonds. Not 30 days, not anything else. | |
| See, we have the executive authority, like I said in that document (2-page) that I put up there. | |
| Per the preambles of the constitutions, we stand as the owner, as the executive over these governments, not the president | |
| he is not the head executor (or the governer), they are the executive officers of the corporation but we are the creator-executor (who established) of these govs | |
| we stand as a us executive enforcement agent per article 2 section 2 as a valid bounty hunter of your republic state's militia. | |
| The president is basically the chief commanding officer of the army, navy, and the state militias. | |
| That is where you have the right to bear arms, keep and bear arms. You don't need to have any registered number, | |
| nowhere in this does it say you have to have a registered gun, your gun cannot be concealed, you can't get a bulletproof vest... | |
| if you are in the militia, you are a bounty hunter, you have every right to all of those protections just like a licensed bounty hunter within the state | |
| that goes after commercial bounties, bail bonds. If they have a right, you have a more powerful right, and it is also addressed article 4 section 2 | |
| that when one of your slaves flees and goes into a different state jurisdiction, you as the owner can either go yourself as the bounty hunter | |
| or you can pay another person to be the bounty hunter for you. They will get 10% of the bounty bailment bonds in the process. | |
| You don't need them, you can do this yourself! This is also supported by the 8th amendment and the 14th amendment and also the expatriation act. OK? | |
| These were all put in place prior to the 1871 creation of this foreign state UNITED STATES as a commercial banking corporation | |
| that was copyrighted out of Londontown by the Rothschild bankers. Our right as a bounty hunter was also confirmed by the supreme court | |
| in 1872-1873 court ruling. They could not deny it! Because it is all right there in the constitution if you know how to read between the lines. | |
| That is the problem, most people don't have (ability to) read between the lines they do not understand the words like "inhabitant": | |
| that means that you are sitting in that office, you are inhabiting an office, therefore you can't run for that office while you are inhabiting it. | |
| 31:00 | |
| You have to be out of there. Running 25 years in a row for Congress... Nowhere in the constitution is that allowed, and same with any retirement | |
| by the governmnent for these people holding the office, because if you establish a retirement for that office, that retirmenet is controlled | |
| by a set of bankers, so now who is controlling that person? The bankers. That is what people do not really understand: you have assets to the treasury. | |
| We have had that, there was never to be any debtor prisons in this country. Like I pointed out... Article 4 section 1: full faith and credit | |
| shall be given in each state to the public acts... well if you become a public debtor, that is a public act. | |
| You go on to read down below: and Congress may by general laws prescribe the manner in which such acts shall be proved and the effect thereof. | |
| But, the full faith and credit was there to pay the debt, either by a judicial proceeding or later on it was addressed in statutes at large: | |
| 5th congress session 2 chapter 49 and 50, that you would petition the secretary of the treasury if these courts would not do their justice processing. | |
| That is what people do not understand about these courts... you go on down in article 4: section 4 of article 4: the united states shall guarantee | |
| to every state in this union a republican form of government and shall protect each of them against invasion. Yeah, our gov did one hell of a backstabbing | |
| against the people; selling out... And all the BAR association banking association is a communist organization, the biggest in the world right here in the uSA | |
| not in china or russia or north korea, this communist banking organization is right here in america and we have more commercial bounty hunters | |
| in this country than any other country in the world, we have 70% of the commercial bounty hunters here, they should be shot or .... | |
| why did hillary clinton want to be secretary of state? Because as sos, she was over all of the passports that are held by the sos office. | |
| Each one of those passports basically has a perf. and pay. bond. When the people apply they set up a ucc contract trust, they granted funds | |
| and they create bailment bonds known as the pay. and perf. bonds. That passport is really an international passbook savings account | |
| because you can take that passport (if you lose your money and tickets home) and go to the american consulate and draw funds using your passport | |
| because it is worth 11.2M bond value. So why did hillary want to be sos? So she could put a bounty hunter's claim against each one of those perf. bailment bonds | |
| for 10%, and have that transferred over to her foundation. The FBI is not smart enough to understand this, that is why they could not do anything against her. | |
| And they would not do anything until somebody would stand up and complain about it, and so far nobody has the understanding about the banking system | |
| in the right way, just maybe one or two people. Read these two pages, it is all right there, stating how we have the right to come in and we | |
| can even go in and now when we get our badge... I sent off for my badge, $155 money order. I have a silver background with gold highlighted black lettering | |
| clip-on badge, with a clip. $100 for the badge, I also got a billfold wallet to put that badge in, for documents and pictures, that is $49, with $6 shipping. | |
| If you get strictly silver it is $56. If you want it to just hang around your neck like those ones shown in the bounty hunter movies (with a chain) | |
| that is $29, so with $100 you can get one to go that route. I got it from www.badgeandwallet.com ; you can make up your own, | |
| I would try to keep along the same lines as what I did. Your badge number and badge date are related to the EIN and the date you got that EIN. | |
| I hope to get the badge in my hands on Wednesday or Thursday, from there I will go to Sheriff's office and federal courthouse and bankruptcy court | |
| with my documents and go in there into the administrative court and place my bounty hunter's claim for the 10% and with the SF30 form | |
| for total liquidation as the owner, and that is what Verdell is set up to down in Florida, she set the stage but has to complete the process | |
| she cannot sit and wait because they are not going to give her all that stuff.. | |
| 41:00 | |
| 50:00 prisoner | |
| you can show this to them with the 2 page document. I am sick of these foreign commercial bankers ripping this country off. | |
| The farmers were never supposed to have social security in the process. They brought it in under the national farm organization (communist org) | |
| to go out and convince the farmers that they should have social security; that was only a commercial system that was set up for the manufacture | |
| in the commercial cities to fund the manufacturers. | |
| one who sold his soul but sought forgiveness afterwards. | |
| do not hold it in; that is what I am doing by venting. | |
| I don't believe that religious lie that you cannot hate anyone; no, I can hate this type of behavior, there is no forgiveness for some of that stuff. | |
| These guys have openly stated treason even that guy obama, outright made a statement in the united nations that the people are incompetent | |
| and we as the elite, we need to control them, and any secret service us mashals agent or anything that is protecting that guy, they should be shot too. | |
| 57:00 | |
| OK. I think I got my point across here now, hopefully this call came through pretty clean; any questions, comments, rebuttals? *6 to unmute yourself... | |
| visit from the secret service? they are trying to feel you out, I submitted many things, closed check, acceptance for value, but I always told people: | |
| stay away from any bonds, that is creating additional debt. | |
| When these people come and see you, you have to stop and think before you answer the question | |
| 1:03 | |
| here is my bounty hunter badge, that is who I am; let them know, they will not do anything. | |
| I will take these into the administrative court and process them there; when the secret service and IRS talk with us, we let them know | |
| that we already sent these to the ucc contract trust division and they did not do anything so I will file a charge against them too | |
| you have your non-ucc on file, you have your documentation and everything else; you did that non-ucc as the bailor | |
| and you establish the fact that you are a bounty hunter, you are coming in to claim your bailment bonds, these ucc contract trusts | |
| all are holding bailment bonds, and they are your slave, your slave will not show up so you have to pick up the bonds | |
| the fugitive never showed up but they put in a boiunty claim with their bail bonds and got you to become the principal surety on the other side too | |
| so they double dip; they even triple dip, that is what the bankers have been doing all along with the mortgages in this country | |
| if we send our document to the ucc contract trust division, they will not follow through? so far they have not... | |
| all these items are bailment bonds, and when you read the very first part of the definition that I put out there, it says | |
| bounty hunter: sometimes called a bounty killer, is a person who captures fugutives or criminals | |
| our fugitive is a fictional person; let me know when you capture your fictional person, I would like to see him. | |
| ...for a monetary reward (bounty), this occupation is also known as bail enforcement agent, bail agent, recovery agent, | |
| bail recovery agent, or fugitive recovery agent, while historically existing in many parts of the world, bail bond agents are now almost exclusively | |
| found in US and Philippines (its former commonwealth), the practice is illegal under the laws of most other countries. | |
| See, we are going to be a bail bond bounty hunter; say: that fugitive cannot be found, therefore we have the right to claim the bail bonds | |
| because he is a no-show. What to do now? Walk these documents into the district or bankruptcy court, you go in as the bounty hunter with your badge | |
| do not sit on your butt; that is what they were hoping Verdell would do in Florida, they released her assets from the control of the trustee | |
| therefore they are waiting for her to claim it as the bounty hunter and the owner, claiming her fugitives back into the republic of florida. | |
| so do we file through chapter 15? No, come in as the bounty hunter. It is that simple. Go and talk to a bail bondsman... | |
| they go to the bail bond and go and put in the claim against the bail bond, but they can only deal with arresting a real person in their system | |
| we do not have any person can arrest, they are all on paper so you take your paper slap it on deck and say | |
| here is the fugitive, I want the bail bond. Do you understand that? | |
| Join the yahoo group WeThePeople_Shareholders and look at the files section, or go to econcurrent.com/devine it contains files and calls audio folders | |
| you need to get your non-ucc on file in the private under a registered mailing to yourself; listen to the calls for the last 3-4 weeks | |
| everything I have been talking about leads right into this final scenario of being the bounty hunter and going into these commercial bounty courts | |
| that are sitting there. The clerk of the court is holding these bounty, these bail bonds accounts, and that is what the US Marshals and all those | |
| other accountants in the federal building are overseeing, the bail bonds. Some of that will be taxable like the perf. bond, that should be taxable. | |
| These foreign commercial bounty hunters have not been paying any taxes on that; you as a fed gove owner bounty hunter can go in and arrest a vehicle, | |
| the fugitive is that vehicle that is being produced by that commercial corporation. Instead of the funds going back via selling of the vehicle | |
| and ford motor co making the payment out of the payment bond to the FRB, you arrest the vehicle, now you just cancelled their debt | |
| they no longer own a debt... a fugitive, you do that with the sf30 and sf25a say here I am arresting this vehicle | |
| but I would get the sheriff or the us mashals involved in the process. And you can get their EINs now by going in and: | |
| you ask them for it, if they don't want to produce it, you go to the IRS as the bounty hunter, you say "i need additional information | |
| on this rogue outfit out here, I need to have their EINs". A bounty hunter goes to police officers all the time for extra information; watch the movies. | |
| Bounty hunter in the early 60s was killed in a racing car accident in Mexico. He probably understood some of this. | |
| When you sit back and look at some of the people who were taken out and how they were taken out and watch some of the movies they were in... | |
| like Wesley Snipes, he knew a little something but did not know he was being screwed over by his accountant/attorney or whatever who took off w/ his money. | |
| 1:16 | |
| I am out here in Arizona, do you do private seminars? Yes, right here (i.e. on conference calls). Over and done with... | |
| and if you cannot understand this, I do not want to see you. | |
| Archive site maintained by Tom: econcurrent.com/devine and an alternative URL for this site: wethepeopleshareholders.tk | |
| The non-ucc designated with bailee/bailor is what gives authority to go in as a bounty hunter? YES. See you are addressing everything out here | |
| even when we wrote that up on our non-ucc, we addressed our fictional person as the bailor, bailing all the assets back to us as the bailee | |
| see initially we were the bailor to him, to our slave, we bailed the items over to our slave (the initial letters of credit) | |
| so now under this non-ucc we are filing this to address that he has to bail everything back to us, and you have to mark it non-ucc and do not file | |
| with the state or the county, this is a private document, you file it with a registered mail document back to yourself | |
| after you post it with a registered stamp (label) on that, you post it and date it as postmaster of your own post box, | |
| and you run copies beforehand and you hold the original that you stick into your bible as the universal banking book | |
| then you can turn around and be the certifier of those copies that you have because you are the holder and the owner of that original document | |
| and they cannot question that; you do not need a stinking public notary out here; only the commercial industry needs those guys | |
| the private world does not, the real world the republic world does not need public notaries, that was all commercial english falsehood | |
| this is too simple, it is almost unbelievable when you really think about it, but you can become rich overnight as a bounty hunter | |
| until you run out of judges or attorneys... but there is a lot of these attorneys, especially the attorney on the other side of the divorce case | |
| they were in there putting a bounty against your marriage certificate, drawing 10% off the top; you did not know that you had a bail bond there | |
| under that marriage certificate. How to tap into that? Liquidate it: SF30, 1414,1416,1418 same way as Social Security; you modify the contract | |
| and order the complete liquidation per ucc 2a section 505. Right there it says you can cancel the contract at any point in time for total liquidation. | |
| And you are coming in as the bounty hunter and as the owner of those bail bonds, just like all these bail bond people out here; | |
| if the fugitive does not show up for court, the bail bond person gets the assets under those bonds. Now the bounty hunter, he will put a claim in | |
| and take 10% of those bail bonds if the fugitive is returned into the court system because then the court will turn around | |
| and release the bonds back to the bail bond person. Go talk to a bail bondsman if you need to have some substantiation about what I am talking about. | |
| The problem with most of these other gurus out here (including Rod Class): they have some good knowledge but lack the big picture of the whole banking system | |
| and when they cannot put the banking system into their system, they are missing the big picture because everything out here is about banking | |
| just banking and unjust banking; nothing more, all these laws and other things they do not apply to us; the constitution does not apply to us in most cases | |
| it addresses certain things to the other law-enforcement that are under the constitutions: the public servants stating what powers we have in the process | |
| and that is also what the amendments do, the statutes are also out there to put a protective rider between the owner and the corporations. | |
| 6:27 | |
| we take them into this judicial court where no BAR agent can enter, and you will come in as a private attorney general | |
| when you become a PAG, you will work with the government de jure officer in the prosecution of that individual | |
| and the fines and everything else: you will split 50/50. | |
| How to become the PAG? You are automatically a PAG when you come of age. That was called out in several documents out there. | |
| Even the supreme court has recognized the people as being a private attorney general. | |