Transcripts_Notes/01-Transcripts/patrick_0803.txt

Hello friends, I am in Arizona; if you need some help with the process or want to say hi, 
please leave me an SMS or a voicemail and I will give you a call back: (401) 526-4250

To find this group online:
econcurrent.com/devine is an archive site; it has archived calls and files (also found at: wethepeopleshareholders.tk)
"we the people shareholders" is the name of the Yahoo Group; sign up with this Yahoo Group to get the welcome email.
The calls are also archived on the group, and all files there are in date order with the most recent files and conversations first.
To get your birth certificate, go to the state vital statistics office. Other documents also must be tracked down in the relevant state.
Discussion of definitions of "born alive", "child" in the catholic and law dictionaries.
Discussion of technical issues with the conference call.
10:00
Tom says people are still making total confusion out of the EIN process, it is actually really simple.
Some in the patriot/redemption community try to defeat legalese by using legalese of their own variety (too complicated).
In the links section of the Yahoo Group, there is a link to the Skype group; follow it and sign into your Skype account.
Be sure to sign in so that your account does not expire; join the conversation after logging in.
Callers should mute themselves out with "*6", and then unmute with "*6" to come back in to ask a question.
16:00
Has anyone tried the finance office? One caller found the "financial officer" in the federal district court directory.
Patrick implies that the personal encounter will get this settled, not a remote control meeting.
Patrick says about court: state your case, think it thouroughly, and rehearse. Then shut up and you answer questions with questions.
20:00
Caller asks if anyone has done an SF30 for their spouse yet. Anyone is married and will be using the GSA forms?
What is caller trying to accomplish with the GSA forms? Patrick will be explaining to those who do not yet know.
That marriage certificate is the UCC contract trust number, so that would be based upon that union, the modification would be -01.
You probably would want to address it to the state department of vital records; they are holding the marriage certificate.
Caller only has Own Name for the principal even though he should have put Mr. and Mrs. Own Name.
As the contract owner, you may want to start with the other UCC contract trusts: BC and SS Card.
There has never been a disclosure of the terms and conditions of that agreement, therefore voidable under ucc 2a-505.
When you look at the SF30 and 1414, if anyone wants to pierce the modification, they are now standing libale.
That includes the state registrar, who is the only one standing in a position of liability in that state relative to the marriage.
If the woman was born in the state where the marriage took place, go to that state's registrar.
Patrick is recommending to get a few things first for testing, but then liquidate your CoLB and that will bring everything into play.
The secret service will bring out all the other contracts for liquidation.
One caller has been filling out forms like a lunatic, has 25 file folders for his submission tomorrow.
Caller found out something abou the Office of Foreign Asset Control at the Treasury Department.
They have revised their website as of 07/27/2016, just a few days ago.
We need to look at that because if we are going to the Finance Office and get no response in 3 days,
it is immediately an application to this office for license to release the blocked funds
and the parties that are holding these blocked funds are now subject to 15 usc 1 and 2.
Based on the fact that we are operating in honor, with good faith, and clean hands, desiring to modify/close these contracts
and transfer the assets to the treasury, fulfilling the assignment of reversionary interest: (USC 95a)
26:00
Caller is just sharing what he found out, but Thomas wants complete discussion even though Patrick is not online.
Caller has email for anyone who wants to contact him: somaswodi@yahoo.com (it is a Cherokee name).
Does anyone know what to do to liquidate vehicle titles? They are UCC contracts, so do an SF30 modification.
See, when you go to buy an auto at a dealership, they get you to confess that you will use that auto for commerce.
So they get you to sign power of attorney which then turns the MSO over to the state so they can register that auto
and now it becomes a motor vehicle per 18usc31. A commercial vehicle for hire.
You want everything that comes with the car: especially the MSO.
In simplest form, the vehicle title is just another UCC contract like the other ones; you have the contract number.
You just go in and use the retail price at the time it was made, then you can add your labor costs for "driving" it.
Caller says that the registration makes him out to be a driver, the labor invovled with that can be expressed in 1416/1418 and SF30
modifying that to bring the vehicle out of their commerce and into the fact that it is a household good (conveyance)
therefore not subject to the revenue regulations of the department of transportation.
They have been claiming it is your vehicle, but you have been handling the expenses, so charge them for it (it is usufruct).
There is really very little difference between each of these UCC contracts, they are more alike than they are different.
32:00
The vehicle is a conveyance in which household goods are transported, it is not commerce (for hire).
The insurance is a tontine ponzi scheme, and it is tied to the DL. A DL is really an insurance certificate.
Caller has a liability and a subrogation bond of $1M that are used to contravene the requirement of insurance in California.
Caller and his group has been using this since 1990 to avoid the insurance requirement.
Caller talks about Article 4 and the BC. You desire to modify the contract because it is based upon fraud.
In the lower-right side of the SF30, it makes a reference to the CFR.
They are implementing regulations for that modification in that text.
Read the quote from E Mandell House: we are reverse-engineering what they have set up.
Caller believes that they gave us the right to modify the contract by coming in with the GSA forms.
In 1949 the GSA was established as the conduit into their system to release the blocked funds held by the UST/IRS UCC trust contract.
The Office of Foreign Asset Control revised their website 7 days ago...
41:00
This caller who gave his email also says that this group has access to him 24/7: 928-301-7517
Caller spent 37 years researching this stuff and reverse-engineering it; he is sharing his observations.
Patrick will probably not be on the call tonight due to lack of updates.
Caller says that all need to understand who you are and what you are doing.
Understand you are the contract owner, the one who is authorized to modify that contract; the only one who is authorized.
What we are doing with this process: making your mark/print/impression that you now know who you are.
The modification comes forth based upon the simple fact that I truly believe that I know who I am,
and there is no fictional entity on the planet that can take control of that. They had to do this bc/ of the administration of bankruptcy.
1416/1418 are only for specific applications; those will only be used (in caller's opinion) for BC, SSN, DL, DD214, or whatever contract
all the court cases are ancillary to the DL or the SSN, one of the two.
Caller says he has been following Patrick (and others) since 2009: if you do not know who you are and have power to exercise that intent
as reflected on a piece of paper that they as an entity will recognize (i.e. SF30, F926, 1414,1416,1418)
if there is no response in 3 days, now we all need to look at office of foreign asset control to get those funds unbocked.
Now that brings in the bureau of public debt... 
50:00
Put a notice on your household good with your own identifier/mark on that household good (vehicle) and include "not for hire", "no soliciting".
In the regulations, it tells you how you open up a Treasury Direct Account, and in the instructions it tells you:
if you have a minor account, you open a master account; you go to the bureau of public debt and get them to transfer the funds
from the minor account to the master account, and if they do not do it you can go to the secretary to do it.
31 cfr 363.6 it define what a minor is: someone who has not reached 18, or who has but has yet to claim securities held in the minor's account.
WOW. What securities are held in that minor's account? Could we start with the BC? Since 1948 they are all on bond paper.
One youtube video is called "Mr. Mighty", Robert Menard from Canada. Title is called "Goodbye Steven"; in the video he is on skype call
he proves that the BC is a treasury document because on the back of his friend's BC there is a red stamp that says "For Treas. use only"
Go read the address that Mandell House made to Woodrow Wilson; this matrix is exactly what they said they would do at that time.
55:00
After 3 days in the IRS TSD, I go submit to the Finance Department, then OFAC to apply to have the funds un-blocked.
Caller says these paths are leading us to the right determination based upon who we are: PAG,
an ecclesiastical nation under god, pursuant to the act that said the bible is the word of god.
I come in with clean hands having tendered the duties liable and due for the importation and migration to the united states.
Finance Office is the Vault Door; the vault opens into the Treasury; they use the presumption that we are the US citizens, debtors.
If I come in with the SF30 into a Federal courthouse in honor, as the fugitive owner and bounty hunter
based upon the recent updates of the OFAC. I carry my peace treaty with me, it is 138 pages and it is in the Library of Congress.
These existing contracts are nothing but a detriment to us; we know there are forms to modify/cancel these agreements.
I am coming forward making the claim that I am the contract owner and fugitive owner; living man that has reached age of majority
coming forth confident in the premise in good faith with clean hands.
I send it to the IRS TSD, UCC Contract Trust, and now asking to go to Finance Office under presumption that I am the district
that is under the jurisdiction of the district court, asking for escort up to the finance office to submit my documents
based upon the fact that I am here to modify the contract as the PAG, having capacity to claim the funds in the minor's accounts.
Can I have your assistance or will you let me know where the office it? I get a transaction/intake number and give them 3 days.
After 3 days, if I do not hear anything I go on to the OFAC and look at the new application to unblock those funds.
Based on the website changes, I am foreign to the United States; I am here to cause a modification and here for settlement
and just exchange based upon my understanding of what exists in order for us to come out and claim the settlement and wash my hands.
Thomas asks how do we determine what they changed on the OFAC website?
1:04:00
Caller says one can order from Library of Congress the treaty of peace based upon ecclesiastical nation under god.
Caller describes from Article 1 Section 9: a $10 secret lien for importation/migration into the United States.
Under duplication services in the Library of Congress, ask for ISBN: 9781943847266, a common law copy claim in 2015 under
reservation of all rights, both unalienable and alienable, under LCCN: 2015948573.
Treaty of the House of McFadden; under federal rules of evidence rule 902, if they do not reply in 30 days it is an international treaty.
Caller is Thomas Ford of the house of McFadden. He says the officeholders are monopolizing and capitalizing on us as living (wo)men.
They have this system in every country to monetize the people.
The main accounts are the ones that you have applied for: DL, SS, DD214, Marriage. Part of the full forms package.
1:12:00
In a mortgage, the source bank was the applicant's SSN.
They bifurcated the notes from the deed of trust, put them into a REMIC, they used it as a ploy to defraud the investors
who thought they were buying something of value as an interest in a piece of paper and property.
The power of recission of contract as per the supreme court case on the mortgage.
SF30 is the recission document; we have discovered that everything they are doing is based on fraud; we claim that.
When you buy an insurance policy, they are monetizing that 10 times.
The professional license acts as a perf./pay. bond.
What is the state of incorporation of the SS card? It is where and when the event and issue that took place.
Look at the BC: date of event, location of issue.
So on the 1416 with the SS card, which state should we go with? They recognize the event and issue.
Your nativity is not the date on that Birth Certificate. Nativity is the date of conception (about 9 months before birth),
under tribal recognition that is when the birth took place. Mom came out with a package but never declared it,
the hospitals and universities are controlled by the Jesuits according to caller's research, under the Needful Buildings Act.
They create a salvage operation of the child, an immaculate conception without a father; church claims the pope adopts the child
into the world and the mother confesses that the child was born without wedlock and there is no real father because of the BC.
This makes the mother the informant, swearing that the child was born out of wedlock; it is fraud.
Now when you go into court and get hit with an infraction, you become a ward of the court, just like with the mother being an informant.
So if the father is the informant, what is the mother's name shown on that certification? Is it her maiden name? Yes.
So, you as the father just confirmed it as a witness, it is firsthand evidence and is even more powerful.
So if you were filling out a 1416, and your documents are PA, for Social Security do you use PA or MD where the SSA is based?
No, forget Maryland; use the department of vital records in Pennsylvania; you are following it all the way through.
1:22:00
Has caller gone down to see the US Mashals yet? No, but planning on it.
You need the justifiable reasoning on every objection that they have.
Caller advises having a witness to go in to the US Marshals; will share his observations on what needs to be done.
One caller went into the federal district court and the US Marshals there but was not allowed into the finance office.
Also went to the federal building, talked to the assistant administrator for the federal Marshals.
Another caller had a friend in Georgia who talked to the finance officer, says caller did not go to the right place.
Looking for escort or access to the finance office. You are doing this to fulfill the obligation to modify the contract
as the contract owner. Without caller knowing this, even going twice and trying to do this, he lacked the new evidence (on the OFAC website).
You are coming in there as the contract owner of the UCC contract trust.
Be sure you know which federal building it is; there may be a north/south district within the federal district court.
Put in your ZIP code and it will tell you which one to go to; you go in there and ask for the finance office.
One of the marshals will either direct you and tell you where to go or escort you.
The finance officer spoke to the callers and shook their hands; will talk to them tomorrow.
You have to talk to one who is in fact the US Marshals, not just front-door security.
Anyone who is obstructing your attempts to settle these fugitive accounts is subject to 15 usc section 1
and also is failing to provide an honest service, 18 usc 1583.
The caller who tried to access the finance office twice: McFadden is available for consultations and he may have the insight you need.
When you go to the US Federal District Court locator website online, put your ZIP code in and know which court to go to.
Callers hoping that Patrick will go back and look at Alien Property Custodian and OFAC after this new information.
1:41:00
What is needed when going down to the court? A 926 form and non-ucc; also, need to make a package for EACH contract:
You need the full package for the COLB, DL, SS account. You don't have to take everything in for the liquidation of the main account.
Make sure the copy of the non-ucc that you have is certified (by you).
You need a 1414, 1416, 1418, SF30 for each one of the contracts that you want to liquidate: 3 sets total for CoLB, DL, SS account.
The other contracts are associated with the main ones (CoLB, DL, SS account). The Driver's License is the main state contract.
Does the SS card need to be endorsed? Not clear; need to ask Patrick.
If they will not let you know where the Finance Office is, call the Secretary of State's office and find out.
The Secretary of State at your state should know about the Finance Office; it is their lawful duty.
1:52:00
Caller has a question: one woman used her FGT EIN to open a bank account, and she has purchased all kinds of things,
and they are just charged-off each month. Tom says it is an old story and we do not have any details on it.
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