| Hello friends, I am in Arizona; if you need some help with the process or want to say hi, | |
| please leave me an SMS or a voicemail and I will give you a call back: (401) 526-4250 | |
| Thomas says: Patrick provided the up-to-date blank forms, because the old forms have expired; use the new forms. | |
| Need to incorporate the new transfer by deed into our submissions. | |
| Thomas is wondering if the salvage title obtained from a vehicle will be cashed-out. | |
| 10:00 | |
| Once again Patrick brought up a lot of documents refining how the constitutional republic laws work; | |
| one which I like very much describes how we actually invoke them when we use them. | |
| He brought up the DUNS number; I know many federal employees have the DUNS numbers but it is very hard to get them. | |
| Patrick says: The DUNS numbers are FOR the contractors. Three numbers, three 9s: | |
| Three nines upside down is 666, the mark of the beast; now you have your three numbers: | |
| basically either you have the ss number, the contractor's 9-digit number, and then you are either classified | |
| as a customer or an employee with the other account number, or whatever. | |
| This thing is basically for you guys to understand how to get out of the system. OK? | |
| You need to start looking at stuff a little more realistically here: how the babylonian banking system really operated. | |
| It is a dead world; the world of the dead. How did they hide your accounts from you? | |
| They put your assets into a dead man's account, a mortmain account, under these contract trust that they have here. | |
| Basically the contract trust is the same thing as the babylonian banking system that goes all the way back to cain and abel. | |
| I tried to explain to people a long time ago that able never did any work, he was a dead fiction, he was not a living person. | |
| Cain was, but abel just sat on his ass. The tree of knowledge is really the tree of usury, when you analyze | |
| what the bible is really saying. That is the knowledge that was hidden away, the usury. | |
| Going back and looking at everything, we borrowed the credits from the treasury. What do we have to do? | |
| We have to return the credits back to the treasury, just like it is stated in 5th congress session 2, chapter 49 through 52, | |
| in the statutes at large. Basically if you were a debtor you could borrow from the treasury to pay your debt, | |
| when you had the means you normally tried to return the credits that you borrowed from the treasury back to the treasury. | |
| This goes along with everything that was in Moses' time when he set up the temple system of bringing the bulls and the goats | |
| in to be dissected, and the good meat given out. A bull was a valid contract; a goat was a scapegoat or invalid/fraudulent contract. | |
| It is all metaphors in the Bible. So, secretary of treasury, you would go to them to borrow the credits, | |
| well you have to go back to them and have the credits given back, restored from these contracts. | |
| So what do we do? We do a transfer deed to transfer these items back. | |
| I had one document there that had a transfer deed that was from the grantor to the grantee. | |
| Well I modified it to where our fictional person is the grantor because our fictional person was the one that granted our credits; | |
| even though we were the original grantor of borrowing the credits, the credits were really borrowed in our fictional person's name, | |
| and then our fictional person left our republic system and went over to this foreign state banking system. | |
| So it all plays out, everything that I have been going along here with this whole timeframe. | |
| We have to invoke the laws of the republic, and the republic banking contract charter, which that is what the constitution is, | |
| it is a banking charter, but it is a republic banking charter which is founded upon the principles of just banking out of the bible. | |
| So that is the higher law, when you invoke the higher law: you are going to the biblical law in the process also, | |
| because the constitution was founded upon the biblical laws of just exchangement. | |
| We have to turn our contracts over to the treasury; they have a massive building there, they may as well do SOME things in there. | |
| Take our contracts and cut them up; they have the IRS there to take out the custom tariff taxes for the usury | |
| of this foreign banking system. We are returning the credits that we borrowed, and then we will get the good meat out of the bull. | |
| Pretty simple, all right in the Bible. We have to invoke the laws of the republic; we have to make and do a transfer deed, | |
| putting the onus upon the secretary of the treasury or his authorized processing agents, to basically adjudicate or process | |
| these contracts. On the SF30, you mark "NO" for "does the contractor (have to sign)". | |
| A long time ago we heard this story: (Someone got) funds by taking the SF30 to the secretary of state in Colorado. | |
| Then he was able to go to the treasurer and get his funds; it had to be a state document that he was doing, | |
| and he got the secretary of state to sign off as the contractor on that SF30. | |
| We do not need to go that far; for the most part, most of these secretary of states won't sign it. Why? | |
| If they were to sign those documents, they would essentially be putting their neck on the line for committing | |
| insurrection and treason against the de jure banking system of the country. So you think they are going to sign it? | |
| 20:00 | |
| I do not think so. Do we need to have them sign it? No. The document SF30 allows for that. | |
| We do this deed transfer just the same way we did our non-ucc filing; we send the original back to us by registered mail, | |
| then we send out the certified copies, you will have to write a cover letter to the secretary of the treasury, | |
| covering this and your attached packages (documents) and the: SF30, SF1414, 1416, and 1418. | |
| We do not need to go to the Sheriffs because basically they all have DUNS numbers; | |
| the county attorney and all those guys have DUNS numbers; they are dunces; dummies. | |
| Let's go to the REAL thing that is out here; not the dunces. OK? So take a look at those two documents I put up there, | |
| pretty self-explanatory, and from the other ones that I put up the other day, it all pulls together. | |
| We the people are (our?) article 4 in the constitution. James Madison ????? for the powers of the people | |
| and the powers of the state. The state by their republic legislatures could have drawn money from the treasury also, | |
| because it was a function of the people that was really doing the drawing of the funds from the treasury. | |
| But the bankers did not like that; that is what they got control over Woodrow Wilson and brought in the insurance racket, etc. | |
| The babylonian banking system under this fraudulent contract trust, which was the English terminology for | |
| the modern babylonian banking system. Trust is not a good word; it is evil. Even Jesus tried to tell people that. | |
| Trust no man; you do not tempt the lord thy GOD. And basically by making someone else your trustee, | |
| you are tempting them to take all your money away from you. Does anybody have any questions? | |
| There should be some people that might have had some results going into court or utility bills or whatever, | |
| going in with the SF30 and setting these things off. | |
| Caller submitted SF30, 1414,16,18 in wife's real estate case and we just got a continuance today, it came within an hour of receipt. | |
| They emailed it out, I guess they were worried. | |
| Yes, if you invoke the laws of the republic then they have to put that into a different category, a different court system. | |
| And that is what they did; the hearing examiner (not even a judge) went and flipped it right back to the real estate commission. | |
| Right, because now you can turn around and you can write a UCC claim of labor (labor claim) against that | |
| or you can put a mechanic's lien on that outfit. | |
| Caller says the beauty of it is that this was in the department of state ??? court. | |
| They knew what I gave them; I am sure they did because I sent it to the clerk of court, so I basically set out | |
| that this is the way we want the settlement, if you take the license, we have this claim this non-ucc, | |
| and I filed that in with her, the certified copies with it. | |
| Patrick says: best thing is to get out of real estate and get her back in the kitchen. Caller says we have to eat... | |
| We have never thought of doing it that way without you. Hopefully in the process we start waking the women up | |
| to their rights out here, that basically what they need to do is get behind the protection of a man, | |
| and let him take the full brunt of the process and stay out of the limelight, be like the Asian women: 3 steps behind. | |
| Why? So that the man is out front so that if anyone wants to attack them, the man is there to protect the woman. | |
| Caller: We submitted the Book of Ruth notice and then she signed it, I signed it, thumbprints... we sent it into the court, | |
| they did not want to change the caption, that would be a lot of risk for them. OK, anybody else have anything? | |
| Another caller noticed Obama put in executive order 13738, dealing with prayer in school, noticed word "republic" in there. | |
| Obama is a complete fraud anyway, they use the word to try and throw everybody off; the devil uses lawful terms sometimes | |
| to their advantage to throw people completely off-track, just like half of these hate-mongering organizations, | |
| the democrats, the republicans, john birch society, southern poverty law center, Ku Klux Klan, churches, etc. | |
| They are all hate organizations; they hate YOU! They hate you because you have the money; you have the power. | |
| The problem is you don't know you have the power and you don't know how to operate with the powers that you have, | |
| because you have been deceived so much thinking that the banks loan money.. the banks do not have any money, | |
| 30:00 | |
| the government does not have any money, none of these corporations have any money, and if they did have, they | |
| cannot loan their own money because it is not theirs, it belongs to the shareholders. | |
| Only we the people have the power to give credit, per article 4 section 1. We give the full faith and credit to anything | |
| that goes on in this country, but they have tricked us into giving those full faith and credits | |
| as a draw against the treasury for their beneficial usage. Like one document I was reading, basically they said that the gov. | |
| has been granting or lending the credits; the Congress cannot lend credits; only the people can. | |
| And the money that Congress is supposed to be operating with is supposed to be the tariff taxes, the entitlement taxes that are coming in. | |
| But there again they cannot lawfully--they can borrow against the entitlement credits that are coming in, | |
| until the tariff taxes come back in to set off those charges or those loans. | |
| The government cannot loan anything; they have nothing to loan, so don't go to them thinking that they are loaning you something. | |
| They are not; you are really loaning it back to yourself and then you are paying interest on your own loan! | |
| That is the fraud game that they are playing. Caller asks: what to do if credit report is negative, how to clear that up? | |
| Forget that credit report, that is total fraud; read this latest document: transfer of treasury credits by deed | |
| back to the secretary of the treasury; you transfer all of your documents back to the SoT; give them back the credits that you borrowed, | |
| give them the bull contracts, the same thing that the people did with the de jure temple system in Moses� time, | |
| they brought their bulls in to be processed; their bulls were contracts--valid contracts, but they had usury attached to them. | |
| They will then come in and claim the credits back that were due to the treasury; they will process and dissect the contract | |
| to take out the custom tariff taxes, which was passed in 1913, away from the foreign contracts that we have here, | |
| these performance and payment bonds, primarily they are taking it from the performance bond, and then they will give you back | |
| all the residue, the entitlement credits and your labor credits back to you, just like what the document I posted up there says. | |
| Pretty simple, straightforward, but I had to put up the DUNS number there to show the three 6s, to show and prove that this IS still | |
| the babylonian banking system. You have 3 9s standing above the ground; what do you have when they go underground? They are Three 6s. | |
| They are inverted. Nobody else has done any court cases or anything else like that? Utility bills? | |
| One of the guys was talking earlier when I brought this SF30 up about going back to the SSA and doing a contract modification | |
| with it and trying to get an extra $2-3 thousand per month. It is too late now, now you have to go and terminate everything! | |
| Why do something half-assed when I have given you the thing to do the full process. | |
| I thought it was to go to the Sheriff and surrender our fugitives, but then when I found out that the Sheriff's office | |
| and all these other places have DUNS numbers, they are dunces; you have to go to the de jure treasury of the republic, | |
| the one that is identified in the statutes at large. And I gave you the reference for the statutes at large, | |
| showing right there that when you were a debtor and you borrowed from the treasury, then later on when you had the credits available, | |
| you were to try and restore the credits back to the treasury. That is where the national debt is, it is because of the credits | |
| that we have borrowed from the treasury; that is the national debt: the credits that we owe back to the treasury is the national debt. | |
| They will go in and draw the funds that are sitting in the federal reserve banks in the reserve banking system, | |
| this foreign reserve banking system, but they can only do it when we give them the authorization and make them the obligor | |
| to settle these contracts. ????? | |
| Go in and read the definition about transfer of deed, then the letter that you send in to the SoT is going to be a letter of contract. | |
| You are contracting him to do this, so he is now under contract to you. He is an obligor to you, not a trustee but an obligor. | |
| He has a public servant obligation to you, under a letter of contract. It is the same thing you get the court into. | |
| And basically you can get rid of any of these female judges out of there when you stand in the republic, | |
| 40:00 | |
| because a woman cannot be in the republic, she cannot be a representative, a senator, she is not even supposed to be in the system, | |
| maybe as a clerk but that is it, only until she finds a husband then she is supposed to get out of there. | |
| The jezebels of the world have screwed up mankind more than anything else out here: the vanity and the pride and the arrogance, | |
| the beatitudes that are listed in the Bible. The destructive nature that is all out here; it is all about banking, | |
| and how do you destroy something. The teachers, the preachers, the doc-quack doctors, everybody out here is out to get in your back pocket. | |
| They do not want to help/cure you, they want to prolong it so that they can keep making money off of you, | |
| keep you fighting something that is totally asinine, hate the black man, indians, japanese, chinese... hate, hate, hate; | |
| that is the name of their game, and then the war-mongers can increase their profits by creating more and more weaponry | |
| to prolong the hate. It is about time we get around to loving thyself and loving thy neighbor. OK. Questions? | |
| Caller asks: Should we turn in our other assets from our dead fathers and mothers too? | |
| You get yourself straightened out first, you start loving yourself first, you take care of your contracts then you go after the others; | |
| and they will probably help you when you start this process and show that you know what you are doing for yourself. | |
| (You) Have not even done one yet, and now you are trying to do everybody else's for them. | |
| I stated this numerous times over the last 5-6 months, OK? You have a problem with that? Let me know. | |
| Caller says: I thought it would help the cause out better the more credits we turn back to the de jure government. | |
| You get yours out turned back: your CoLB, SS account, DD214, Driver's License, Voter registration card, bank accounts: | |
| you are going to turn quite a bit of credits back; you get that taken care of then they will help you (probably) with the rest of them. | |
| Turn in separately? No. Get the document that I posted up on the group: transfer of treasury credits by deed (example). | |
| In Black's law they have counter-deed: secret writing either before a notary or under a private seal | |
| which destroys or invalidates or alters... is it applicable? No. We are doing a transfer by deed; a deed is a declaration, | |
| you are transferring the title to these, to the secretary of the treasury; he cannot do anything without having the deed/title in his hands. | |
| If you are going to look up anything in the dictionary, you have to look in more places than one, and in some cases | |
| then you have to read between the lines of what some of these dictionaries are really saying in the word usage, | |
| you have to put them in the proper connotation because the deceivers are going to continue to deceive you and try to throw you off. | |
| We have combatted the trust, the word trust for almost ten years now, and I knew that there was something totally wrong with using | |
| the word trust, because it is not what it means. Anybody else (have questions)? | |
| New caller is wondering where the group is at; heard about Patrick from the Kurt call. | |
| Well what did you hear? It has already been put out on the calls, the addresses to WeThePeople_Shareholders as a yahoo group, | |
| and the other one is econcurrent.com/devine | |
| It's a yahoo group: WeThePeople_Shareholders; you have to go into yahoo, find the groups and do a group search, | |
| then when you find the group site you have to sign up to become a member, it is free, you have to establish an email address, | |
| and how you want to receive your email documents because every time we post a document an email is sent out to inform you | |
| that there has been a new document that has been posted, so you can get it on a daily/weekly basis, or not at all. | |
| How does one identify the contractor's DUNS number? YOU DO NOT. You know that there is another 9 there, that is all you need to know: | |
| there is three 6s. The contractor has a 9-digit number, we have a SS account number that they are utilizing, then on top of that | |
| we also have a contract EIN, or a customer account number, and normally those are all 9-digits. Now you have your 3 sets of nines, | |
| showing that it is a babylonian banking system, the mark of the beast; that is all that you need to know. | |
| When you read the document about the DUNS number, (also called the) 666 document, you will see it right in there, | |
| I tried to make it as simple as possible so the simple minds can understand these things. | |
| 50:00 | |
| Sometimes the complicated minds try to over-think the process because that is the way adults think, | |
| we have to over-think them but in the bible we were told we had to be able to read the thing as a little child, | |
| but the public education has screwed with everybody's mind under MK-ULTRA to get you into a different mindset, totally out of sync. | |
| I was always a rebel in school, that is why they never totally got to me. | |
| Anybody else? OK, I will drop off and you can continue talking amongst yourselves. Thomas answers questions from this point. | |
| Caller asks where can we find the documents? Both on econcurrent and the yahoo group that patrick described how to get to. | |
| The documents were also posted to the skype group, around 5pm eastern time. | |
| On econcurrent the docs are in alphabetical order, better to go onto the yahoo group so you can see what the latest docs are. | |
| The name of the documents are: "DUNS NUMBER one of the 666", the other one is "Transfer of Treasury Credits by Deed example". | |
| If you have not joined the yahoo group, join it; the welcome email tells you where to locate calls/files, | |
| how to arrange things in reverse date order... much easier to go through the yahoo group; econcurrent is just a backup. | |
| What does one have to do about authenticating the BC? That is not involved at all. | |
| OK, well if one wants utility bills paid, is it a discharge of liability what you are doing? Well, the effect is that | |
| but the actual action is not; you are getting rid of the bill by setting it off and returning the credits that they borrowed | |
| to the treasury to get rid of the national debt, and there are examples up there; he mentioned the transfer deed, | |
| and in the last paragraph of the transfer deed he mentions the 4 SF forms: SF30, 1414, 1416, 1418, | |
| and there are various examples out there; the older examples need to be modified because this is a work in progress; | |
| work through the documents backward to get the most recent ones; also join the skype group, and if you have questions | |
| ask specific questions on the call. SF as in Standard Form. Just look at the transfer by deed document in the last paragraph. | |
| Can you go over the steps one at a time in the right order as they apply to everyone, universally? Do you have to have standing? | |
| You will have to go back and hear some of the previous calls; you have to have your EINS, and then prepare your non-ucc form | |
| putting the master lien on everything, then you will have to transfer all the documents back to the treasury. | |
| We don't have that in writing yet because it keeps changing; it is our job to listen to the reserach that patrick gives | |
| and to organize it ourselves, and that is by discussing it on yahoo group, skype group, or on the calls. | |
| Caller says thank you for your efforts, there is so much deception, caller appreciates people going the extra mile to help others. | |
| The hardest part of it is you have to unlearn a lot of what you have been told about this kind of process. | |
| Look at patrick's documents with a clean mind, do not mix the processes because you will be totally confused. | |
| Caller had an understanding that it is impossible to get an original, and the authentication makes it equivalent to the original. | |
| No, the one you get from the state is already authenticated; anything else is modifying and nullifying it. | |
| How to listen to the archive of the calls? In reverse date order, newest first. How to access them? | |
| Join the yahoo group, you will get the welcome email which explains in detail how to do those things. | |
| When you get to the yahoo group, look in the main section for welcome.txt and read that. | |
| Has anybody ever got any bills taken care of with this or used this process to monetize your "trust account"? | |
| Is there actually an account with funds in it for we the people or is it a limited account? | |
| Has anyone been successful with this process? This is a work in process, we have small successes described on the call tonight. | |
| It is the lack of success that steers us towards what we want to do; it is not to the point where you can go to WalMart and buy it. | |
| Does this work only for commercial entities? All public debt, but not private debt (borrowed from mother). | |
| What about an invoice from ABC company? That is a public debt; this process is good for public debt. | |
| You really are going to have to look at the documents and the calls. | |
| Caller has not listened to Patrick before, asks: how does this square with monetizing the CoLB (a separate group effort)? | |
| Well, you are not really monetizing it because monetize it means to turn it into money... it has nothing to do with that program. | |
| Are you are giving this certificate back to them because it is not really yours? We are only using it as evidence of birth, | |
| but even a bible record will satisfy that; the programs are not the same (Thomas is assisting another program/group, unrelated). | |
| You are not using the documents for purposes that are contrary to each other. | |
| Can previous calls be heard via the playback number? No, only the most recent call; links are stored at yahoo or econcurrent. | |
| This week's call can be heard by dialing the same number but with an 8 at the end instead of 5, but only for this week. | |
| To get the previous calls, join yahoo group and get the welcome email, you will see both places where the calls are. | |
| The birth certificate is your major document, that is where your assets are really hidden. | |