Transcripts_Notes/01-Transcripts/patrick_0907.txt

Tom: He (Patrick) has put in a web page (CFR) and it is pretty extensive reading about how to go about modifying a contract.
I think that Patrick has really delved into more on where we have to access these contracts, specify the contracts, and modify them.
I briefly got through the closing of contracts one, just about a third of the way through the ones on contract modification,
it is not easy for me to see the direct application for what we are doing, but we have to go over it several times and look at it ourselves,
as to does this apply or could this be made to apply to what we are doing? Anybody else take a look at these documents and have comments?
One caller filled out 1415 just like the 1416, you use that information and the SF30 and fill it out. I don't know whether we fill in amounts
in the top part or not. Tom was particularly interested in the language used: the language comes straight off of the 1414.
caller's example: "owner of the state and ss ex-"... Patrick:
OK, everything out here, basically we are running the money, and I can give you some examples as to why I can say that with 100% assurance, OK?
My dad was in WW2, my dad got an honorable discharge, he also had medical problems, OK? He had been in and out of the VA hospital a couple of times;
we had a lawyer here in town and basically he helped my dad get an increase in his disability payments with the VA, OK?
taking the DD214 and basically this attorney had to know about these contract forms: the sf30, sf1414, sf1416, sf1418, also the 1413.
Now, with the 1418, basically you can have the attorney submit his bill into the contract; you don't have to pay him out of your back pocket.
He would do a draw against the perf bond, but using the 1415 is what was able to get an increase in my dad's disability.
The attorney that basically my dad had just happened to be a jew, his name was goldman. What are all these bar-lilcensed attorneys out here?
Why do we have so many BAR licensed attorneys in this country, moreso than in any other country? Because they are bond brokers,
they are able to broker these governmental bonds, just like a commodity broker(s). When all these kids went to college, that attorney
was able to process through the VA against his DD214 and have monthly payments come out and sent to us in our college education.
He had to be using these forms, he was a broker. My dad used him as a broker, he did not fully understand that basically you can broker
out of any of these gov contracts but this jewish broker was helping him with his DD214; all the other contracts are the same process.
Why do they assign you a public defender in court? Because they are trying to give you a broker so that you can broker the process, the contract.
You authorize the payment, you are the owner of this contract. If you guys do not have the full understanding, and most of you never will...
Go and get an attorney, a BAR licensed brokerage contract settlement attorney--to broker your contracts. I had two times that I was dealing
in commodities; twice I got burned out there to the tune of $25,000. Once in a commodity broker's account in New York, the other
in a commodity broker's account in Chicago. I was halfway friendly with the commodity brokers and everything, and when I got burned
I did not pay anything out of my back pocket: $25,000. But these jewish brokers knew exactly how to go in because that account
that I had at that brokerage firm basically had a perf and a pay bond associated with it. They were able to take the charges against the perf bond
and set them off; they did not tell me that, but I am piece-meal-ing all of this together now because I have a lot of history behind me.
This is where I am far advanced over most everbody else because I have done so many other things over my lifetime:
I have been in different scenarios, now I can sit back and look at them and piecemeal this all together.
That is what a lot of people totally forget: they never go back into basically trying to find out the why things happened the waay they did
when they were growing up, or in their different life-span. One of the key things about this contract payment bond and performance bond
setup process all setms out of the 1929 bankruptcy--or stock market collapse, not the bankruptcy then.
Then whole bankruptcy was a complete fraud--by the foreign bankers. The states never would have been bankrupt;
they could have borrowed from the treasury per article 4 section 1, they had the right to do that just as the people had the right
to borrow from the treasury but it had to be done by a private law. But if the states stayed in the republic system, yeah
they could go and borrow from the treasury and then basically the income--whatever from the state cafr funds would be paid back in
to pay the debt that they owe to the treasury at the end of the year. One of the biggest lies out here in the patriot community
has been to stay away from these BAR attorneys; we need to use them in the proper retrospect. If you go back into some of my past audios
and everything from a couple of years ago, you will see that I was calling these BAR attorneys: brokers. But I did not have the full understanding
of what they were supposed to be brokering: these perf and pay bonds. I posted several documents talking about the SF30
I also posted up the SF1513 and 1415 form. Consent of surety and increase of penalty: basically with that document right there
you can go in and all of the funds that you paid into the SS or into the bank or whatever, into the mortgage...
you can draw those funds out from the payment bond. You can order the settlement of the contract from the performance bond.
Why are there so many inspector generals out here in this country? We have an IG for everything under the sun,
not to mention all of the state AGs which are really IGs for the state, because in all of these contracts you have to invoke the IG
in the process to come in and make sure that the settlement was properly adjudicated.
You do one with the Social Security: put in for getting all of your payment out of the pay bond that you paid in,
put in for another 2k a month or whatever from the perf bond, or you go in and you basically place a total liquidation of that,
but you know how much you paid out of your back pocket into medicare and the ss payments during your lifetime,
so you can put that down and then basically order the settlement for all of the other interest that is accrued in that
under those two bonds. You send that into your local SS office or your regional SS office, and then follow up by going to the SS IG.
The one thing you probably need to have in basically all cases that basically carries one hell of a lot more weight than anything else,
even moreso than a notary public, especially in this contract situation, is to have a letterhead by a broker, by an attorney,
a law office: contract law office. Then they know they are dealing with somebody (who) knows contract law. Most of you people do not
fully understand this contract law, and like before when you were talking to Tom earlier basically you were guessing at how to fill these forms out.
Take the forms down to an attorney, have him fill them out. Even if he charges $200 an hour, what the hell? They payment is going to come out
of the performance of that contract. You on the other hand for your time going in there you can put in a $200 an hour payment from the pay bond.
A man's time is basically valuable. And basically the value is sitting in these bonds, you have to be able to process it out.
You get incarcerated: thrown in jail; basically turn around and find out what contract put you in jail, and then put the charge in
against that contract, but go and have an attorney help you with it. All you are doing is going and getting a commodity broker,
a bond commodity broker; that is all that these lawyers BAR licensed-people are, that judge is a bond broker settlement adjuster.
Now in a lot of cases most of these people do not know the whole process about all of these gov bonds. 
They deal with corporate gov bonds or corporate gov contracts, but they never deal with the individual gov bonds, per se.
And basically they are not going to offer it to you, in most cases. Hell there was one judge up in ohio that basically had been foreclosing
on people right-and-left, then all of a sudden one day he got foreclosed on and he did not know how to get out of the system
or how to get his house protected, because basically he thought it was all about these corporate contracts with the government,
he never looked at these things as individual contracts with the government. It is no different than going and setting up
a stock account, brokerage account, or commodity brokerage account with the brokers there; I have basically said all along--all brokers...
you cannot write bonds because you do not have a broker's license, you cannot broker these bonds either because you do not have a broker's license.
You can put the documents in, and HOPE that they are going to process them, but if you work through a broker, you are going to get your resolve
out of the process. Yeah, the biggest lie in the whole patriot community out here was: "stay away from the lawyers,
they are out here to really screw you over". Half of these guys from that statement alone have caused more damage to the people of this country
than the lawyers themselves have! So how many of these back-stabbing, sonofabitchin gurus that are out here charging out the ass...
messing over the people, keeping them dumbed down: are they shills? What the hell is the deal?
I said all along that basically anybody that is out there charging for a seminar or anything and cannot tell the people how to pay for the seminar:
their seminar ain't worth shit. And I don't know anybody out here that really has had a 100% settlement out of all of their seminars.
They have hoodwinked money out of the peoples' back-pocket, money that the people really did not have that they were HOPING
to get something settled, so that they could basically continue to live in their house or whatever... but here it is! Go and get an attorney!
You do not know how to broker these contracts. I have given you a lot of information out here on how to start processing them.
My dad did not know how to do all of these forms. But that jewish lawyer definitely knew how to do them.
I did not know how to pay the $25k twice over in my commodity broker's account, but now I fully understand how it was paid!
Hell, I had commodity accounts there that basically if they are still open, I probably have over $1MM in the payment side of those.
That is the kicker; that is why they treat you as incompetent: because you do not know that these are nothing more than contracts,
and you have to take them to a contract broker; they are bonds and you are not licensed to do settlements of bonds, to broker the bonds.
That is the bottom line, and then like I said you get a letterhead for a law office understanding contract law...
Then, you will start getting the resolve you want. You can take your certificate of title to your vehicle, put it into the SoS,
have the attorney send it in, order the liquidation of that contract, get the full face value of that certificate of title,
in most cases it has the new price value right there on that cert. of title, yeah get 30-40k back in 3 days!
But the payment that you have to pay to the attorney is going to come out of the perf bond, it is not coming out of your back pocket!
Let him process it through. You go and start doing this and then you start buying the stuff...
and then one of the key things in all of these contracts: the max timeframe for a contract per the bible is 7 years,
but in most cases in this country, the contracts are fully funded at the end of 3 years, like the mortgage:
the perf bond at the end of 3 years have the full value of that house in the performance, you just have to have the order
to set that payment off, and then you can reclaim all of the payments--principal and interest that you paid in against that mortgage
into the bank because it is being held in the payment bond. You guys have more money than you know what to do with,
you just don't know how and where to go and pull it out, and that is what I am telling you tonight, is the proper way to go and pull it out.
You take these forms into the attorney; if you don't like what you are hearing from the attorney, if the attorney tries to give you
some double-talk, there are more attorneys out there that have BAR broker's licenses. You go and find a good broker that will work with you.
I have had some bad commodity brokers out there in the past, but see one thing I have got over most everybody else out here,
I went and took the commodity broker's test; I basically could have brokered bonds if I had went ahead and gone and got my license.
We were not that far off about 5 years ago when we were trying to go to brokers in this process, but we did not have this SF30,
the 1414,1415,1413,1416,and the 1418 forms. That is what I was missing. Seeing that it was all about bonds,
and basically you have the right to order the termination of any and all of these bonds, right now, if you are over the age of 25.
That is right out of the constitution, because you cannot represent another person unless you are out of debt.
If you are in debt to somebody else then you are being controlled by that other person and you cannot give a fair representation
to anybody else--even to your family members, because you have a noose around your neck.
But this is the process to get out of this; just like I did with my car: I have no state contract on my vehicle; I never paid any sales tax on it,
I do not have a state license on it, I do not have state-demanded insurance on the vehicle.
But I can turn around and if I get in a situation to where I caused a problem, I will basically settle from my assets that I know I've got out there.
But if it is not my fault, it is the other party's, I can turn around and put a claim in against their contract with the state,
using the 1418 form against their contract. Having a broker submit that in against that other contract.
Now hopefully you understand why this country has more bar-licensed attorneys than any other country out here, because we have more contracts
than any other country: that is why. And all of these courts that we have been going to, they are just contract courts:
contract settlement courts, that is all they are; and stop being the surety for the contract.
I don't know what more I can say; I have given you examples, I have got the proof, it is there.
I know that there is a bunch of liars out here that basically whether these people actually did it on purpose
or whether they were just too damn dumb to go and do some additional research in the process, I do not know.
But anyway, whatever they were doing, it was wrong, especially by telling you to stay away from the BAR--the brokers.
You have traffic tickets; turn around and fill out this SF30, this 1415 form. Go in and claim what you paid out of your back pocket
from the payment bond; go in and claim the reimbursement from the performance bond for that traffic ticket.
Especially if it had an appearance bond on there. The appearance bond should be coming out of the performance of that contract,
and normally it would be against the driver's license contract that you have with the state.
Child support, spousal support: put it against the marriage contract. Like I said: if the lawyers or whatever, the BAR people
do not fully understand what you say, find one that does; explain to them that this is the same thing--these contracts are the same
as any other governmental corporation contract. Like between the contractor and the department of highway(s):
the department of highway(s) does not go out and do all the work, they subcontract that stuff out,
well the subcontractor has a contract with the state then. They have to have a pay and a perf bond.
But see that is what most of these BAR-licensed attorneys are dealing with because the people are not coming to them
and brokering THEIR bonds. Watch some of the Hallmark movies: why do they have in so many of their movies,
why are they always having lawyers in their movies? And what are these lawyers dealing with in most of these movies?
Corporate contracts. That is what the vast majority of all of them are. OK, open it up to questions.
Caller asks in regards to using the GSA forms, she was looking at SF30, and upon reading that looked at the bottom and it said
for an individual you would use form 28, so include that or stay away from the 20-series forms?
You stay away from those, you do not need those. But go and talk to an attorney, that is what you really need to do,
and then basically have his payment come out--using the SF1418 form. Yeah, he gets paid from the performance of the contract.
This is just like building a house, OK? Basically support for the material comes out of the performance bond.
Caller asks if we use any BAR attorney or any one with a BAR license? Yes, but you question then; you don't just go down...
you want to check out a commodity broker before you make your first trade with him, find out how reliable he is, what does he know, OK?
you have to do some due dilligence, and like one of these documents that I put up there: who is the one that is responsible
for initiating the closure/closeout of the contract? You ARE THE ONE, nobody else is going to initiate the closure of these contracts.
Tom asks if we should take in our non-ucc and credits transfer deeds? Or SF forms is sufficient? 
I would take all your docs in there with you, and basically go over the forms with them first and then break out the contracts that you have.
The same thing goes on at a commodity broker's: you have got so many shares of gold, cattle, soybeans... 
Then you transfer your account over to this other broker, but you want to find out what he knows before you start dealing with him,
then you show him the contracts that you have. I would audition these to see if they are up to snuff.
Only a fool goes in there and basically trusts anybody without questioning them, and basically this country is full of fools.
Caller says that most attorneys want their $200 per hour for the one hour up-front.
Patrick says you show them and you find a broker that will take the funds out of the account.
They have to do it, otherwise you are going to basically file charges against them with the inspector generals.
Say "oh no, I am insolvent, all my money is tied up in these contracts; you broker these contracts, THEN you get paid",
and basically if you don't do this, I will file charges against the BAR association, against the broker's licensing association
that you are not doing what you were licensed to do; that is how you take their broker's licenses away from them.
Filing all these other charges into the courts and everything else is bullshit.
That is basically going to end you up in jail, just like so many of these other people out here,
because you did not know what the process was and you listened to a bunch of these other nitwits out here that did not understand
the banking system in this country, this commercial contract banking system.
Caller asks if this is the whole concept that a lawyer is not allowed to tell you what your rights are but if you know your rights,
they have to stand up for them? YOU have to know what you are doing in some of this stuff, you do not have to know how to fill out
all the forms, but you have to know (that) these contracts and you basically demand that they broker these accounts for you.
Caller says that they have never done this before, right? You do not know that for sure, stop guessing.
Some of the introductory people only know about the construction contracts out here and that's it, they don't know about these other
governmental contracts, how they are the same scenario. But there are people out there that do know.
And like I said: in my scenario, three out of the three that I dealt with, they were all jews. The choice is yours. Any other questions?
OK, you guys talk amongst yourselves, I am going to drop off here, have a good night.
Caller asks Tom if anyone is transcribing these calls? Nick has been summarizing them but this is a good one for word-for-word transcription.
Tom says he knows a few good attorneys and he thinks they would have done this, but most would not fill out these forms.
Caller says he was looking at the template for the window sticker; what is supposed to accompany that form?
What accompanies that endorsement form and do I need a lawyer for that? Caller says it's an endorsement for window sticker and tax bill.
Tom says that the process has changed and we are filling out the (SF) forms ourselves.
The endorsement was for when we were converting the window sticker into a bill of credit, we are not doing that now, we are accessing the bonds.
Really listen to this call again, I think everyone should go through and transcribe it, it will probably take you 3-4 hours to transcribe this call
but it really makes you pay attention and listen carefully, and you will see when you go through and listen carefully,
just write down most of what we talked about, most of the stuff we are trying to learn ourselves we should really take it to the guys
who were trained to do this, and we will not get into trouble for having filled them out.
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