Transcripts_Notes/01-Transcripts/patrick_0911.txt

Tom: So the people were having trouble with the non-ucc on the skype group, are there any focused questions for this call?
Has anyone talked to lawyers? Tom will go and audition a bunch of lawyers with a team of friends.
Any new people here that have any questions? Caller asks about the SF1415, she cannot find it in the yahoo group.
Caller cannot find a complete SF1415 sample. Tom says one of the people in the skype group posted an example in the skype group, Tom will repost.
(SF1415 is the form for increasing your social security). In skype if you search for 1415, you will see the file uploaded there.
Caller says he heard some people in the past have ran into trouble (with IRS) for getting the 98 EIN numbers. What are the details?
Patrick: I don't know where you are hearing that, basically that is scare tactics, nobody I have heard of has gotten in any trouoble
in getting a 98-series EIN. They may have gotten a $5k penalty from it but basically we can set that off.
We know how to do that with these damn SF30, SF1414, SF1416 and 1418; all your taxes, everything, and all your bills
basically goes against the performance bond that's against that contract number.
OK, and when we get our 98 EIN, is it in all-caps name, TRUST? It doesn't make a bit of difference. So how does it show up?
Listen to the calls, there is information on previous calls on how to get the 98 EIN.
We are not here to keep re-educating every new person that comes on the group; if you get referfenced on the group,
talk to the person that referenced you to the group, OK? That's the way the game is played, if you are recommended by somebody,
talk to them, find out the information from them: why did they recommend you to this group? They thought it would catch my attention.
It WILL catch your attention if you follow along, and basically go back into the files and basically get the information:
where is the website? from these people, you don't just arbitrarily say "hey you have got to listen to this guy" and not give you the information.
I have put files up here for years, I have put audios out here on different group sites, trying to educate people:
words, dictionaries, the constitution, explaining that, and people still do not understand Constitution, Declaration of Independence,
or any of this other stuff. One of the key things out here is the CoLB and there is so much misinformation about that.
They took the money away from the people in 1933 and they set up basically these contract trusts out here for each banking account
that you have, and everything in this country is about banking: the national constitution, we the people in order to form a more perfect union,
ESTABLISH, ok? We established a federal bank system in this country. The states all are republic banks, per article 4 section 1.
Only the people and the states in their sovereignty republic position can borrow from the treasury.
Therefore, by the certificate of live birth, when you were recorded at the county recorder's office and concurred by the county court,
you were in the republic, and only someone in the republic can borrow from the treasury, so basically they borrowed in our republic name
from the treasury and transferred it over to the state per the CoLB registration. The state is responsible for its state citizens--
republic state citizens. OK? Most people don't understand how the damn banking contracts really worked as the constitution for the state
and for the nation. We the people are the owners of both the national bank and the state federal republic banks.
But, the state cannot lend any money that it borrows from the treasury. So it would not have done the state any good to borrow the money
from the treasury; they had to get us to register so that it was a borrowing in our republic name.
Then we lent our credits that we borrowed over to a fictional person under the registration number being held by the republic state,
but they transferred it or allowed it to be transferred over to the STATE OF corporation, but it was a lending in our name,
and we set up a fictional account over in the de facto STATE OF. That is the prime republic banking contract trust that we have.
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The three parties that are involved with it are basically the secretary of the state, the AG's office, and the treasurer--in the republic.
And we can come in and terminate this major contract; all of the other contract trusts, like the social security, like the VA,
like the driver's license, like the mortgage, these are all sub-contract trusts. Now you can terminate those individually
or you can basically go after the big one and go after the CoLB and order all sub-contracts to be terminated also,
because everything all revolves around having that CoLB. The SS account basically was founded upon the CoLB; the Selective Service
was founded on the CoLB, the Driver's License--most all these state items are tied back to the CoLB.
You can go into the subcontract and basically that 1415 form is not that hard to figure out. If you guys cannot figure out,
basically then quit right now, because if you cannot handle a simple little form like that, you are going to be a detriment to yourself
because you will never have any common sense to think yourself out of a wet paper bag: that is just the facts of life.
You guys have to start getting some common sense. There used to be a pamphlet that I think Benjamin Franklin put out called Common Sense.
Well basically most people in this country have no damn common sense anymore, they cannot think themselves out of any damn problem,
they have to have somebody else tell them how to get out of the problem. These forms are working, OK? We are using the right forms:
the SF30, the 1414 to where you come in as the owner and you oversee your surety person now. A non-ucc is in the republic.
A ucc filed with the secretary of state is with the public system, not the republic. It is in the corporate world.
We have to claim our master republic banking contract trust. And then we can basically order the termination of all the subcontractors.
SS: Social Subcontract. Selective Service: Selective Sub-Military-Contract. These are all subcontracts.
Most all of the subcontracts are operated through the department of commerce. Not the commerce department. That would be in the de jure.
Anything that has department of means it is a derivative of something. Department of banking, department of insurance, department of licensing.
Those three are basically three of the key components in the department of commerce here in the state of iowa.
They never gave you full disclosure of all these subcontracts. Why? Because the subcontracts are between
the master contractor (state of iowa) and the subcontractor, you just got caught in the middle. You are supposed to be the surety in all of this
action out here--the ASSURED, not the surety; your fictional person is the surety, you are the assured.
All your bills are supposed to be taken care of; that is why you have to use the payment and the performance bonds
and the 1416 and 1418 or basically the 1415: consent of surety and increase of penalty. The penalty is against the surety.
You have to submit these in and then basically they have to broker the insurance bonds: the perf or the pay bonds that they have there,
and liquidate them, thereby cancelling the debt that is against that bond, and releasing the credits. That's all there is to it.
But we stand in the republic. And it all goes back to article 4 section 1: we can terminate the lending of our credits.
They passed these laws that did away with the original process of having private laws passed to borrow from the treasury,
and they went into this registration, starting out at the county, and basically you were getting your inheritance from the treasury,
or so much of your inheritance, and then it was placed into the republic bank for the republic state that you are in, your birthing state.
But then it was transferred from there by your guardians' consent on that CoLB registration, that was a twofold document.
First to do the borrowing in the republic, second to do the transfer from the republic into this corporate state of banking system.
Now hopefully you people can understand that. Draw a little flow diagram if you cannot fully see it in your mind's eye.
Put pen to paper. That is about all that I have to say for tonight. Any questions?
Caller asks where would patrick suggest sending the BC? I just told you; who did I tell you the three people were that you basically need to
get in communication with? Would that be the state or the federal treasury? These CoLBs are issued by the Bureau of Vital Statistics,
that is tied into the department of commerce at the state level; these are all controlled by the state bank.
The state (STATE OF) bank is the only one that can basically then turn around and allow the funds to be utilized by the federal government,
by subcontractors; but the republic state is where you need to go to. The secretary of state, the attorney general, and the treasurer of the state,
in the republic, and that is in your birthing state. Caller asks if we should send the credits transfer deed to them also?
Caller has not had any luck in finding an attorney... Well, your attorneys would be for any other item that you need to be brokering.
That is what the BAR license is: if they won't work with you, you can file a complaint against them. It is like you have a commodity broker,
and these BAR attorneys cannot claim "well that might be a conflict of interest", no it is not a conflict of interest; you are operating
in two different scenarios. You have a commodity broker and he has several different clients, one client wants to buy the other wants to sell soybeans,
is he going to tell one guy "I cannot do this because I have a client over here that is doing the opposite"?
He is not going to tell you that, he will basically work on both of them; he is going to get a commission.
If these BAR-licensed people do not do their job, then you can file a complaint with the licensing division in the state department of commerce,
because they are brokers in the department of commerce, they are licensed. All 501c(3) churches, basically also have a group of lawyers
in their process. Some of them like the Episcopaleans, Roman Catholics, Lutherans: they call them "Vicar Generals", they are licensed!
The churches with that baptismal certificate were supposed to be forgiving your debts, all your original sins; they are not doing their job.
Just like they were not doing their damn job back in Jesus's time. It took him to basically go to pilate and have pilate tell him in the republic
that he found no fault with this man and therefore they had to comply with the law. They terminated his contracts, that is what they crucified.
Daniel, the same thing: he stood his ground; Moses, numerous ones throughout the Bible. From Cain to Abraham all the way down.
They were terminating these fraudulent banking--corporate banking contracts--of usury. The saying goes that Jesus came to show us the way and the path,
but nobody understood that; they think it was automatic that he was just going to turn around that if you kept praying to him long enough,
basically he was going to come down and pat you on the back and say "I forgive you, I redeem you"; no, you have got to do it yourself.
He only came to show us the way and the path out of the system; you stand in the republic and basically you can come out.
I posted documents up there about being in the republic; I have told you that I have a car that I never paid any sales tax on.
I have had cops right on my ass, (they) never turned their lights on. I don't have a state license, I have my own made-up license.
I have a sticker on the back of the car it says "no solicitation", all traffic tickets are solicitations; a driver's license is there
to allow you to break the law, well if it is there to allow you to break the law then basically they have to pay the bill if you break the law.
But they do not do it because you do not see that you going into court, you should never go to court, you should basically take these forms
and release the charge. It is just like you are building a house and you hire a contractor, and the contractor has a subcontractor working for him,
and basically the contractor brings a bill to you and says "hey, I need to have the amount of funds released for this subcontractor",
so he hands you a bill; you turn around and you sign it and give it back to him and say "set it off against the performance bond".
That is the way the system works in this country right now. That is not the way it used to work.
Caller asks: if we submitted the SF30 and 14-series forms for a court case (say a traffic case) and the court ignores them, what is next step?
Who did you give it to? Clerk of court. You give it to the prosecuting attorney, he is the broker.
They will not tell me who the prosecuting attorney is, I assume it will be the judge prosecuting from the bench.
OK, then just turn those into the clerk of the court, you are done. You give them 3 days to settle the matter,
that clerk of the court will get with the prosecuting attorney, mark my words they will.
They did not... I sent certified mail to the clerk, the clerk waited 14 days to pick up the mail from the post office, then they issued a bench warrant
for failure to respond. After 3 days you should have also sent a copy into the attorney general's office; in all these cases basically you have to get
the inspector generals involved into any of these contracts, whether it is the SS IG, the VA IG, the banking IG...
So for a driver's license, the inspector general would be the state attorney general? Yes; CC them on it.
You need to look over the forms and make sure you have got them set off right. Was it the 1418 that you submitted in with that to release the payment?
I submitted SF30,1414,1416,1418; I did not do the 15 because this was a while back, before we heard about the 15.
What were you putting on for the 14? You were trying to terminate the contract. Actually I was trying to pay it, and what I did is (state):
"if you cannot settle this in three days, just terminate the whole driver's license" and I sent the forms to terminate the driver's license as well.
You need to inform the secretary of state and the attorney general's office also, and also let them know that you will file charges,
and get a BAR attorney in most cases to go in and process this; make sure you have all your Ts crossed and your Is dotted.
Robbi Thomas gives an update on her court cases: she did what patrick said and sent her documents to the clerk and also the prosecutor/solicitor,
and copied the secretary of state; they called her the next day that they had received it and asked her to get driver's license.
She said she will not be in contract but he had all the information to shut off the bonds and I wanted all 6 of those tickets dismissed.
He said he would get back with me and he did not know if he could do that. I told him that I would plan on pursuing my case against him
if he does not carry out what needs to be done, and what he did was he called me 2 days later and said that he was dismissing everything,
so I (Robbi) went up there Thursday and got my dismissal letters for all 6 tickets.
Yeah, they have to take care of them; if not, there is in the state department of commerce, there is the division/department of licensing,
and they have a complaint form, and basically that BAR license, you can put a complaint in because that BAR-licensed attorney
is basically under license to the state commerce department, and they are supposed to broker these bonds.
You can also file a complaint in with the state department of insurance and the state banking division.
Caller says that she did not do all of that, but she will. Yeah, if they do not do what you want them to do. Well, they already did it.
Well then basically yeah, he has done his job... Caller says she went up there and they had all the documents for dismissal letter for each citation.
So it did work but you have to stay on them and you cannot be fearful "oh please do this", you have to stand on what you know.
Yeah, you need to stand as the owner in the republic. Caller agrees and says "only", i.e. you must stand only as owner in the republic.
She says that Georgia will be going back Republic but they are not telling people this.
Patrick says it has always been in the republic, the vast majority has been masked, like in a Shakespeare play, you have a play actor playing the part,
just like all the presidents and everything we have actors here. Caller asks Patrick if he got her letter? Yes.
So it does work, you just have to stay on these people. One of caller's credit cards was cancelled, but she still could pay on it.
So last week what she did was send a copy to them and a copy to the CID Inspector General.
Patrick says the thing is for all of your banking accounts you need to add up all of the deposits you made, that is the charge that you put in against
the payment bond. Like your social security when you go after it, basically you add up all of your SS, Medicare, etc. payments on both sides of the fence.
Basically you paid in so much into SS, but your employer also paid so much into it, normally the same amount. So you take what you paid, double it,
same thing with your Medicare, fill that, add it all up, and put that charge in against the payment bond.
Your checking account: all this money that you put into the checking account: you put a charge into that bank.
Like I said, we now figured out how these people were going in and writing checks on closed checking accounts: they were drawing the funds
out of the payment bond that was sitting there because that is where all of your deposits go. When you write a check out it comes out of the performance bond.
So all the money that I paid and these credit cards over 15 years, I need to (claim it back with the SF30 process)? Yes.
And when you do that you are reducing the national debt; it is being held in bondage and when it is in bondage it is classified as a debt,
it is a surety, and a surety is a debt. You free up those credits when you collapse those bonds (the bondage).
So with the court situation, I did send that information off to the CID... Patrick says you only go after them if they do not comply. OK?
You do not file a charge against somebody that is doing their job. So no letter threatening that I am going to do this? No.
Basically they know what the hell they are supposed to be doing, if they don't do it after three days, basically then you do it.
They have three days to settle the contract, if they do not settle the contract--and this is all about banking, every bit of it;'
and this is under the laws of banking. So is there a special banking inspector general? Basically whatever one you are dealing with:
the state banking division or department of banking under the department of commerce, or the licensing...
See all these credit cards and everything else, they have to be licensed to do business in that state.
They are not, I just looked that up, two companies are not licensed to do business in this state.
Then you can file a complaint with the AG's office (in your state). Start complaining; just like the squeaky wheel: he is complaining,
he will basically get grease if he keeps squeaking loud enough. And see that is what I told people a year ago, basically I did not get resolve
out of the SS until I filed a complaint in with the SS IG and then basically I got resolve within three days.
That is how important the inspector generals are when you operate in the right regards and you are able to prove the fraud that is going on.
So Patrick do I send them a copy of the bill that they sent me? Send them a copy of all the stuff, the SF30, everything. OK? Anybody else have questions?
Caller was thinking another remedy to get people moving might be title 28 section 1261 which is a mandamus order to make a public official do his duty.
Patrick says: Nope. You don't go to court, you settle before you go to court, you use these forms and don't go to court.
Robbi says you better be careful with the writ of mandamus because it could hold up the case and tie the judge's hands.
Robbi says she does not need an attorney to settle the local court case. Patrick says: no, you DO need an attorney.
You need to have a broker, OK? If you are dealing in the commercial system, if you do not know how to handle it in the republic, you need a broker.
Only the living man basically after he has done his non-ucc filing and has claimed all his stuff into the private into the republic,
then he can come in as the owner and basically demand that the brokers that are there broker the damn accounts.
But for the most part if you are arguing something and going to court, you better have an attorney and you better give that attorney these forms
and tell them that you need to process these or else you wil file--and take his bar license away from him.
Robbi says I am not the defendant, the other company is the defendant, I am the plaintiff and I am suing them for something they were supposed to do.
Basically they short-changed me on my job for 3 years, they were paying everybody else $5 more than they were paying me, and they acknowledged it
and I have all kinds of information and exhibits... Patrick says: but you still need to understand these contracts here, and basically
you had a contract with them and you were giving them labor under the SF30,1414,1415,1416,1418. Understand that everything out here is about contract.
You just have to see how these forms fit into that contract. And basically that is why in most cases you should have an attorney in the process.
His payment is going to come out of the performance bond, you do not need to pay him anything out of your back pocket.
Caller has a question: whenever there is a contract, the contract is the obligation so that makes the bond, after you default or do whatever you have to do
to procure it, so once you procure it, in my experience I never necessarily needed a broker because I could do a 144A bond.
That 144A bond, if you had your treaty with the secretary general in New York, and you have an actual valid UN treaty and your operation of law is under
the private international law, then you can submit a form and bond with that obligation by sending it to a comptroller so that they could put it
into an escrow account, and then you could go ahead and get an IntFin number, international CUSIP number that is pretty much what it is,
then you could go ahead and use that as a valid dated obligation so that obligation is in circulation and can be tracked,
but I have done that by defaulting people so that I could get estoppel or to get some sort of actual offset for a case and then we would mail it into the clerk 
and then the clerk would have to move on the instrument because it is validated and they could confirm it in their system
that it is foreign but it is not necessarily in the DTC so they do not have the ability to do anything else to it.
Patrick: Yeah, they cannot broker those! No, what I am saying is that you can use it as an equitable offset as long as you are the proper party,
if it is foreign it can still be used, you can deposit it through the court because the court itself is a bank.
My take on what you just said: it's all bullshit. You have a BC, you have basically your inheritance transferred to that BC, it is under a bond already,
it is under a payment bond for 600-1M for credits that were drawn from the treasury, that went into the payment bond,
now the perf bond for that CoLB has been out there having 10 bonds for that 1M written every year and basically getting 5% return
so basically every 3 years your perf bond is getting an additional 1M into the perf bond, now take your age and multiply that out
and basically you have millions of dollars... Patrick, if I send you right now the proof of it and I send you the response from the AG and everybody else.
Patrick says I don't want it, I am not doing any other bonds, you are not licensed to do bonds. You don't have a FTC license.
Caller: Last time you muted me when I asked you a question, and on top of that you are lying, Patrick, and one of your documents is a lie too
because you broke the law of merchants. The court will not agree with you. You are lying and I see through it.
Patrick: No, I am not, we have already got cases right now that people have set off.
Yeah but if the FTC sees what you are doing, they are going to come in for securities fraud. That is what I am trying to tell you. You are lying.
I have been listening to you for a minute and you have been lying. Caller hangs up.
Patrick: Too many of these people out here are all going in the wrong direction, talking $1500 for a DVD or something like that out here.
Yeah, soaking the people; they do not tell them the damn system whatsoever, it is all about banking; it is all backed up by the Bible, every bit of this stuff
that I am talking about. We were missing the forms, everybody was using the 25-25a, 24, 28, OP90 and 91 forms.
Yeah, some people may have got it set off in the court because the judges that were handling it did not fully understand those forms
because those are only in the corporate side, but as soon as they found out that they were only in the corporate side,
that shut down that thing and nobody else got any remedy in that court. When you understand these and you start seeing that you have a contract over here,
in the private, OK? And that you are the owner over the surety, then you can come in and order these to be shut down.
If you do not understand how to fill out the forms, you get a BAR attorney because they can broker these, this is what their BAR is all about,
these banking... OK, BAR: it is a banking transaction between you in the republic and the corporate world, that is the BAR that you have got to jump over.
And that is why you have a BAR attorney do the jumping for you. He can jump over the BAR.
Robbi says the problem is finding one who will stand up against these folks because half of them are buddies with them.
Caller says but don't you give up your rights once you get an attorney? No. These guys are brokers, it is like you have a commodity account.
And you have them buy so many thousand ounces of gold, now you want to take delivery of that; the broker is going to have to broker that,
so that basically the delivery can be made to you. Same thing with stock certificates (shares): you cannot cash them in, but that broker can.
Like I said, these BAR licensees; they are licensed by the state, and yes every license is basically to break the law.
They ARE breaking the law, they are breaking the usury law. The republic versus usury banking system. But you are the owner.
You are supposed to tell them what to do, not the other way around. And basically if they do not do what you want them to do,
then you file a claim or a complaint against their license. Just like a commodity broker: if he is not going to do what you want to do,
you file a complaint; he will lose his commodity broker's license. This is a simple process really when you come down and understand it.
But they have had it so convoluted out here that people... basically everything is prepaid because they borrowed from the treasury
so that they could operate, and they owe us! We just have to release our surety person, the bonds that are over him, and bring him home.
Patrick says he is not getting an attorney, he does not need one, he knows this stuff. I have taken the commodity broker's test,
so I know about bonds and everything else, I know how to go in there now, I am standing in the republic, like I said I drive around...
I have no Dl, I have no insurance on my car, I have no license, my car is not registered, I never paid any sales tax on it.
I have had cops right on my ass up in the state capital, followed me for a couple of blocks and then turned off, they could not have MISSED
not seeing what is on the back, the picture that I posted onto the group. Robbi asks: for those people who don't study/understand, they need a broker,
but for those of us who study and do understand, if we understand the contract, then we don't need one. I know what I am doing to the point where
if I have a few questions (then) I know a few folks I could call to get everything done, but at this point for me I am not getting a broker
because I do not need one because I am too far deep in this and they know that I know what I am doing and what I am talking about.
Yeah, if you start seeing where you can pull the plug and shut these guys down and stand your ground and you have the fortitude to do that...
Yeah, you don't need one then because we are in the republic and the republic is the one that's in charge, we are the owners.
But see most people out here basically they are scared to death of their own shadow.
Robbi says you just have to have guts to stand up and do stuff; most people are so comfortable in where they are;
they want remedies but they really do not want to put in any work; this takes a lot of work and some guts, you have to stand up to these people.
Patrick says to take your SS, fill forms out, take it into local SS office, CC regional office and SSA IG. It all depends on what you write
into your cover letter addressing this to them, and you put that into those three places.
I posted the fax number for the SSA IG and basically if you ever got a letter from the local office, they always talk about fraud...
well they give you the fax number normally to contact the SSA IG. Normally you can find also the regional SS office and they also have a fax number.
Robbi says she will send all of them a certified letter. Patrick says the same process goes for someone that has a DD214,
but use the 1415 form, say you want a $5k per month penalty; if you do not have a direct express debit card right now from the Department of Treasury,
once you start putting this into the SSA and say hey basically I want my payment on a direct express debit card, issue that instead of sending me a check.
It is your money, basically the SS account was only supposed to be there for 7 years, in the republic. The living republic person was never to be
a debtor past the age of 25, in the banking system. It is right in the constitution; you cannot represent another individual until you are of the age of 25.
And when you represent another person, you have to be debt-free, you cannot be controlled by anybody else, or else you are not giving proper and just
representation to that other person if somebody else is controlling you. It is that simple. People do not know how to read the constitution.
And you have to come in under article 4 section 4 and invoke the laws of the republic. Robbi says when I write this cover letter, I am going in as
article 4 and invoke the laws of the republic, and I will send that copy to all three of them along with my cover letter and tell them what I want them to do.
Yes, and if any party does not comply you will file charges against them under title 15 usc section 1 and 2, along with the complaint forms. That's it.
Robbi is asking which GSA forms are sent in for this? The 14/16/18 and 30? No, you can probably get away with just the SF30,1414,1415;
unless you are going to terminate the whole account and then I would go with the 1416 and 1418 and just write in there: full liquidation value.
Then you would not have to do the 1415 form if you are going to do the 1416/1418. Just look at them, OK? And think about it yourself, OK?
But you need to have at least three of them. OK, anybody else? Caller says she is in Georgia and has been listening to the recordings;
a lot of people are arguing with Patrick and it is not cool because he is giving out his energy to help people.
Caller thinks it is disrespectful to disrespect a man and teaching what has been working for him for probably over a decade.
Well, we don't know that it is working for him; he claims that; see, there is a lot of shills out here in what people call the patriot community out here
that have kept people at bay in the proccess, have never helped really the whole process, they are out there for their own profits and gains,
like this one website I pulled up and they are charging $1500 for a DVD with about 2 GB, shit I could give you 25 GB and for free.
It will confuse the hell out of you and basically I have done so much research over the years that I have had to back up, get off of that track,
and get onto a different track; and see that is what the problem is out here in most cases; we had to find out where the right one--
and basically we had to prove all these other guys were wrong. Caller asks for people who are just starting, where to start? Is there a beginner's class?
Just try and listen to the last 3 or 4 calls and read these forms and look them over; read the letters that I have posted up there, templates and everything,
and try and get into the republic, read the documents the word definitions that I have posted; they will help you immensely just to know one word:
basically the difference between for and of, of means it is a derivative of something. The four different definitions of united states:
we the people are the principal united states because we are the land that is standing above ground, then you have the land itself, that is the united states,
then you have the government that basically we the people allowed to come in and operate our banking system in this country.
The declaration of independence was all about getting away from the east india company usury banking system and into a free republic continental dollar,
labor dollar banking system; and you cannot tax a labor dollar, because you cannot tax labor, and that goes all the way back to Cain:
when he complained about Abel, his fiction that was sitting around on his ass doing nothing, and Cain--everybody was eating all of his profits up,
he had a lawful complaint, so he got remarked and he went out on his own; he said he was not going to stay under Adam and Eve and their damn tree of usury.
There is more to the Bible than what people understand. Caller asks: for the IRS tax bill, we send them the modification of the contract
which is attached to your SSN, basically, and the 14-series forms; so if they do not comply with what you requested, is it the SSA IG that you go to?
No, I would CC a copy up to the IRS commissioner. Yeah. But you would do the SF30, the 1414, and the 1418 and have that bill set off against
the performance bond. You authorize the release; I am modifying this that all future taxes are to be taken out of the performance bond.
I authorize it. That is all they are waiting for you to do is to give them the authorization. That's it! You don't argue.
Unless you have full substantiation that you have surrendered something and you are not a driver, and they cannot force you to contract to be a driver.
Caller asks if she has questions can we email you the questions? People on the group need to work together, you need a round table.
Like I said numerous times, in high school you had a study period and 3 or 4 of you would sit down at the study table and try to work together.
I don't know how your school systems were but that is how it was set up out here in the midwest. That way you get a roundtable going.
Thomas says anytime you want to get on this conference room and discuss something, mention it on the skype group, this line is usually available.
Caller agrees and would like to work together. Thomas says he suggests choosing the subject and choosing the time for the additional conference calls.
Tom says join the skype group and discuss there the time and the topic that you want. Caller says he is bill. Asks if he can do anything for Patrick? No.
Caller says he wants to thank Patrick for helping his friend richard; if there is anything he can do for Patrick, he does not want it as a one-way street.
No, this knowledge is free, basically that is what you have to look at and basically when I get the knowledge I try and put it out for people,
and you make of it what you think, OK? And I am thoroughly convinced that we finally got to the right door because we started moving things now
in the right regards; when we started doing the non-ucc, and see that means you are not in the commercial world, you are in the republic world
when you do a non-ucc, and you claim ownership and you stay into the republic. That is the kicker; you have got to be able to stay in the republic
and not get hoodwinked back into being in the commercial system and then being utilized as the surety in the commercial system.
This is of really no real benefit to us. It is a detriment in all regards, it is a debt that is owed to us in all this commercial system.
And that is what they are afraid (of), that finally the people are going to start waking up and saying "hey, the debt is owed to us,
and all we have to do is collapse all these bonds out here and have the credits transferred back to us", take the money away from them, shut them down.
They are out of control. But this whole system is a complete remake of the old east india company. And really it is a communist scenario,
and even the east india company was a communist scenario. OK, anybody else? Caller asks: you mentioned liquidating that SS account.
So if you liquidate it, it goes somewhere that you want it to go to, can you explain where you want it to go?
You can either have it go into a commercial bank account that you have or you can basically have them transfer into a direct express debit card.
The social security system will work with the department of the treasury and have a direct express debit card issued if they are making a payment.
The social security administration is making a payment. Caller asks: do you want to have a treasury direct account? I said direct express
from the social security, it is a better debit card. You do it with the state; you can get a state republic banking debit card. You have to ask for it.
Say, "I do not want a check, I want a state republic banking debit card". Never seen one but basically we know that the republic is out there,
and basically if they are holding the stuff in the republic banking system and we transfer it all over there, we are the owner, we can demand
how we get that payment. Think like an owner! OK? Caller says many are struggling with mortgages, how about a class dealing with mortgages?
The mortgages are the same scenario here, take the contract--that mortgage is a contract--all the principal and interest you paid into that mortgage
went into the payment bond; the house is fully paid for at the end of three years. It is sitting in the perf bond, all you have to do is order the release
of the funds out of the perf bond to pay that mortgage off. Use the 1418, the 1416, the 1415, the 1414, and the SF30.
Put a cover letter in there and tell them and basically also CC the state AG's office.
Caller says she had a lawyer send her the UCC handbook and if anybody wanted it, she could put it in the yahoo group.
Patrick: I think we already have that up on the site, all the UCC files in word or in PDF. I know I have posted them up there at one point in time.
Caller has both ucc and non-ucc handbook. Just send them to Tom, he will put them up there.
What about if you have 2 SSNs? The latest one is the only one that is valid. See the previous one has a sequence number, that one has been terminated.
But your SS number basically is good at any of the federal reserve banks out there. The ss number is basically what all of these banks, all of these
driver's license(s), everything else ties into that SS so that they can turn around and use the Federal Reserve Banking system
to have charges--the perf and pay bond in the Federal Reserve banking systems against your SS account--under subcontracts.
But you go in against the master contract and then order all subcontracts to be terminated. You take the fund away, the base collateral.
Just like a house of cards: you pull that bottom card out and basically everything collapses down around it, and that is all it is,
it is all about a house of cards. Caller says "that was a good movie", Patrick agrees. OK, I am going to drop off, you guys can continue talking if you want to.
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