| Tom: We have everything posted up there now. | |
| OK, yeah I posted one document up there for the SS IG, Patrick O'Carroll. | |
| You might want to take a look at it, OK? This guy basically became the third IG of the SSA on 2004. His background, basically if you scroll all the way | |
| down: Mr. O'Carroll also brought to the office of the IG the benefits of 26 years of experience with the US Secret Service. OK? Buchanan and Lincoln | |
| basically set up the Secret Service well what was this Secret Service? It was a secret governmental banking service. OK? That is really what it is. When | |
| you look at everything that they do out here, it is all about banking. They are protecting the banker, the president of the bank. He is not the | |
| president of the country, he is the president of the governmental bank. And then basically these guys are all in the same regional office locations that | |
| the SS is located in too. The SS is a bank, and it is overseen by the Secret Service. That is why we got visitations from the Secret Service at | |
| different times when we put in different instruments out there in the process. Why did they go against Kennedy? Why did they get pulled off of his limo? | |
| OK? If they were there to protect the president of the country--if that was their sole responsibility, they would not have been pulled off--but if they | |
| basically had a rogue banker in place there that was going against the governmental banking system, yeah! They got pulled off! Everything out here is | |
| about banking; I have said this all along, and they are using our assets for their beneficial usage. You need a bank routing number, you need an account | |
| number, and then you also with the CoLB, I posted another document up there about the... yeah, about the certificates of indebtedness, ok that we | |
| deposited with this governmental bank, and the SS is a branch of the secret governmental banking system or service. So they are a branch office, and | |
| basically the Secret Service is over the Enterprise Financial Management System (EFMS)--if that does not say governmental banking system, I do not know | |
| what does. Now we have indentured items out here, certificates of indebtedness, and they were deposited, and basically they are convertible coupons that | |
| we get--that CoLB, the master certificate is on file; what do we get? We get a convertible coupon. OK? And basically it has got a coupon number on it. A | |
| sequencing number. And we convert that into a certified check. OK? It becomes now, when we convert it on the back, we convert it into a promissory SS | |
| certified check. It is convertible! The same thing with the DD214. It is a convertible promissory SS certified check after your DD214 has been certified | |
| on the other side. Read over the documents that I posted up there; I gave a bunch of definitions and everything in the process. The routing numbers you | |
| need to have basically for your check are either your DL--state DL number, State ID number, OR Passport number. OK? It is identifying a US citizen | |
| routing number. It is not you. It is your UNITED STATES Secret Service governmental banking routing number. And then your account number is your SS | |
| number. OK? Hopefully this breaks it down a lot more. (IF) You run into problems with the local office, go to the regional office. SSA/Secret Service | |
| office at the region--the Secret Service is located in that same building and in most cases, like I've even got both of them--the SS IG or SS Inspector, | |
| and the Secret Service are both located in my Federal Building in Des Moines. That is not my regional office; my regional office is in Kansas City. I | |
| have had face-to-face discussions with the damn Secret Service before; I just did not know everything I need to know about the banking instruments that | |
| we needed to process. But there was not a damn thing that they could do--just the same way with the US Marshals out here, and I have met with them | |
| several times--and they don't have a leg to stand on because everything is about banking and as long as I am operating in the law--banking laws, they | |
| cannot do a damn thing. They can try and intimidate the hell out of you just like a local commercial bank does--the damn vice president and president of | |
| the banks and everything else, calling the cops basically if you look like you are doing something that is not quite right even though you ARE--and | |
| basically I have had the local commercial bankers call in the Sheriff and everything else. Have I ever been arrested for that? No. The only place that I | |
| ever got harassed was basically in the damn court system because basically I did not know how to properly set off the charges and they were not going | |
| to tell us how to set the charges off. Now we know how to set the charges off: we give them the routing number and the account number and say "here, | |
| you fill out the proper forms; the SF30, the SF1414,1416,1418"--and your claim check--or solicitation check, however you want to look at it because the | |
| SF30 is for solicitation or modification and that is all that the courts or the cops and everything else out here--they are out there trying to solicit | |
| funds from you, saying that they gave you a service. A SECRET Service--a secret governmental banking service, because everything out here is about | |
| banking. And I have said this over and over and over again. Stay away from any other arguments that you are going into court with. Now, if you run into | |
| any problems, you call upon the SS IG's office--or in other words, the Secret Service--about the banking instruments that are being perpetrated, the | |
| fraud. By either the court or by these commercial bankers. | |
| Get yourself identified properly as one who knows what the fuck is going on. | |
| If they take us out, at least we will have the knowledge that we were right going into the next lifetime--because they are getting ready to destroy this | |
| damn country--the bankers are. There is not one good one out there that is in the political arena that is worth a shit--not even Donald Trump. He will | |
| sell this country down the road just as much as Obama, as the Bushes, as the Clintons, as Nixon, as Johnson, Roosevelt, Eisenhower, Truman... all these | |
| shitheads were working for the fucking bankers. | |
| Several of them had tried to beg forgiveness after they got out of there, said "oh shit, I fucked the country"--like Woodrow Wilson. They do not deserve | |
| any forgiveness. | |
| You are a state--a republic state citizen. You as the living are not a United States citizen. Your fictional person is a United States BANKING | |
| citizen--banking account citizen. I had Tom post a document up that one of the guys, Ray, sent to me about getting a state ID, but there might be | |
| another way to go about it--I have got another guy checking into it, he said this guy went into his state's SoS and AG office and got a state brown | |
| passport out of the AG's office. We are trying to find out how in the hell he did that, but we have not had the feedback yet. But the state should have | |
| the capability to issue state--republic state citizen passports because all the states in the republic capacity are separate nations. There are so many | |
| items out here that show you a lot of this stuff in the process, but people are looking in the wrong places--and not tying the big picture together. You | |
| can go into the Secret Service website and basically see that they are almost right now working in conjunction with the United Nations--the | |
| International Monetary bankers. Yeah, why do these guys protect an outright crook--for the government? Because they are working for a governmental | |
| banking system; they are not true agents working for the peoples' benefit, they are working for the bankers' benefit--the governmental bankers. So the | |
| process that we need to go through now is we need to take that CoLB or DD214 and turn around and on the back side make it a promissory SS certified | |
| check. Modify my example appropriately; make sure you double-check everything. In fact, the best thing to do is to print out what I have, highlight what | |
| you are going to need to change, and then take the word document and modify it appropriately and then double-check that you changed everything on that | |
| word document before you print it out. And then I would recommend that we go now--several people have been getting stuff back, well we did not have | |
| quite everything right when we sent it to the local office, but I think I would either go to either your state Federal Building Secret Service office--I | |
| would contact or notify them--but I think I would send it into the regional SS office and also put the notation that the Secret Service in that same | |
| building is to be notified. These bankers hide their addresses a lot, but if you do your due dilligence and searching on the internet, you will be able | |
| to find some of these addresses that you need. The fax numbers may or may not be updated. If you run into a problem that the fax number that does not | |
| work, normally call up the phone number and see if that works and ask for a fax number. Otherwise, just send it out either priority mail or express | |
| mail. You will get a tracking number that you can track that item with on priority mail also. The post office will print that one out when you basically | |
| send that out. Like I said: go over that document and basically then all of this is also covered by title 15 usc section 1 and 2: these are BANKING | |
| codes. And see our items are really classified as collateral trust certificates. That is why the first word in 15 usc section 1 is the word TRUST-- | |
| because it is talking about these items that we have, and that they are not processing these items because we did not know the enforcement capability | |
| that we had. And now when we put it into the Secret Service, SS IGs--banking IGs--that is why basically Harold and I when we complained to the SS IG, we | |
| got an action taken RIGHT NOW. But we had been all over the Secret Service in the past, too. So our names are in the book. We are a squeaky wheel that | |
| is going to get some grease. OK, open it up for questions and comments, Tom. | |
| It has to be on the certified copy you get from the state. And basically for your military, like we have said for years, you have to take your DD214 | |
| down and put it into the military discharge record book, then you get certified copies from the county recorder's office. If the county recorder won't | |
| do it, then you question the Secretary of State and find out where can I get my DD214 registered so I can get certified copies here in the state | |
| offices? I did my time, I want my benefits. | |
| Hey Patrick, you put this down because monopolizing trade or restraint of trade is exactly what requiring a DL or cert. of title is, and then when they | |
| take your truck because it does not have current tags or insurance, it is a restraint of trade and it is a conspiracy to (not) let you trade, (not) | |
| allow you to trade, a restraint of trade in commerce. | |
| Patrick: Their whole banking system is, yes, a restraint of trade because we were never given full disclosure of how to use the SF30,1414,1416,1418. You | |
| have to turn around and take that cert. of title with the state government banking system and cash it in. Take it out of their control. If it is still | |
| in their control, they have a claim against that vehicle and you are going to fucking lose because you do not know the banking laws. | |
| Right, and these codes prohibit them doing what they are doing. | |
| No they do not prevent it! No, once you understand and you put the right forms in and then they are restraining your trade, after that then they will be | |
| penalized. This is a follow-up. You do your job and then basically if they do not do their job, then you can come after them. But see, we had to find | |
| out what process we had to use for this governmental--state or national governmental banking systems. And that is what these GSA forms are all about. | |
| Yeah, where does the government--the Secret Service right now is paying so much into Donald Trump and Hillary for them riding on their damn planes. | |
| Well, where is the Secret Service getting that? From the bank accounts--OUR bank accounts that we have in there, they are coming out of our promissory | |
| bondage--or performance bondages. But when I went into the Federal Building the last time, up in Des Moines, and basically they had a local SS Inspector | |
| in that building--well he was not in the office at the time and then basically the Secret Service they were not in office at the time either. But I had | |
| talked to them numerous times before, but I hit just about every other office in there, and basically the whole thing is about banking. Everything in | |
| that building is about banking--the federal courthouses, all courthouses--it is about governmental banking. | |
| That is why the damn Secretary of States cannot take non-uccs because they are not governmental banking forms; they are private banking forms. They | |
| cannot monetize them or put them into their system(s) against the governmental bank accounts. Yeah, that certificate of title to your vehicle--that is | |
| basically, there again, a coupon--against the title to the vehicle--that they have in their records. And you can do a complete liquidation of that | |
| account, that bank account... Taking out the payment and the performance bonds in the process. OK, anybody else? | |
| Thank you first of all for everything you are doing for us and the things you are teaching us. Is there anywhere we can go to read up on the history of | |
| things and to be more thorough with it? Yeah, what are you looking for? Pretty much I know bits and pieces you have given us here and there, but if I | |
| send you a drive could you give us the history? It is all in the statutes. Yeah, look up when the Secret Service was initially established--it was | |
| established under Buchanan who was the president before Lincoln. They were setting up a secret governmental banking system prior to Lincoln coming into | |
| office. And then Lincoln when he was in office, said "hey, we can go back to basically the labor dollars, the greenbacks". But, basically turn around | |
| and when you come all the way up into the Roosevelt era and the Wilson era and look at the laws that they passed and the statutes out there: the | |
| shipping act, the tariff tax increase in 1913, the FR Banking system in 1913, and in some cases you have to read between the lines: that is what a lot | |
| of these senators and congressmen did not have the capability to read because they were not in the loop of understanding the governmental banking | |
| system. They could bitch and complain but they never understood the banking system because they did not take the time to study all the laws that were | |
| building up to this point in time. But it is all out there if you study all this, and then if you want to go back through and listen to all my archives, | |
| I do not know how many are still out there over the years of all the audios that I have said, but I do not think you've got enough time to listen to | |
| everything that I said or to go back and read everything that's out there. You have to have a little faith and belief. If you see what I've got here and | |
| you believe it, then go with it; if you don't, then sit on your ass. OK? Does that answer your question? It does, thank you. OK. Anybody else? I mean | |
| really when it comes down to it--even these Secret Service agents, they don't fully understand what their actual job is. But yet when I told the damn | |
| Secret Service agents that "hey, that car you're driving out there, that belongs to me, I am one of the owners of that car", because I am the true | |
| government, I am the executive government over this commercial BANKING government that we have in place--and they did not deny it. Now whether they are | |
| under a code of silence just as much as the BAR attorneys are--that if they let too much out, they lose their head too--because there have been quite a | |
| few over the last several decades of Secret Servicemen that have been knocked off out here, especially by the Clintons and the Bushes. So Patrick, do | |
| you think it is going to be easier to move this with the SS as opposed to the BC? You have to use the BC or the CoLB. You have got to use it as coupon | |
| and basically it--like I said, read the documents that I have posted up there showing that basically it is a collateral trust certificate coupon. And | |
| then look at the definitions I have on that other document out there about promissory note, or coupon note. A coupon note: a promissory note with | |
| coupons attached. Well, see the master is in the file; what you get is a coupon! And in some cases at least here in the State of Iowa, they all begin | |
| with C. That is almost a tell-tale sign right there that this is a coupon, and then the number behind it is a sequencing number for that coupon. And | |
| they are coupons against what we have on deposit, and they have to be presented for payment, and then read the definition about a certified check: if | |
| you look at your CoLB, OK? Like on mine, it says "this is to certify that this is a true and correct reproduction of the original record as recorded in | |
| this office". Now if that is not a coupon--I don't know... and it is a certified coupon and then we convert it into a certified check. And see, these | |
| are convertible into a payment claim. Patrick, I have a question: I am wanting to know if when we like get the CoLB, let's say we get 4 or 5 or as many | |
| as we want/need for record-keeping... do we need to do like an acknowledgement of a deed for these birth certificates? No. You need to cash them in. | |
| They can only be issued to the original holder unless you give somebody else permission to go and get one of your checks and use it. It is just like | |
| what goes on at the commercial bank: you give somebody a check against your account, you sign the check over to the other person and say "here, fill in | |
| the amount you want, screw me as much as possible". That is what you are doing. So that is what is happening when you do like an acknowledgment of the | |
| BC without consideration, that is basically what that is? Yes, that is total bullshit that some damn guru out there is misleading people into sending | |
| that CoLB and trying to get it re-notarized; it is already certified and it says down at the bottom "American Bank Note Company", it has the state seal | |
| and it has the registrar's seal; it is under seal already! All you need to do is to do the SF30s, the 1414,1416,1418, and send it into the bank--the | |
| governmental bank, care of the Secret Service and the Social Security system. Patrick, previously a while back you suggested that we not send in the | |
| original... We have to send in the original; this is not the original, this is a certified coupon; that is all it is, it is not the original; the | |
| original is on file. Let me explain my definition of when I say original: I am talking about the copy that we have; for example, we went down to the | |
| vital records and we received that document, that is the original I am talking about. That is an original coupon, it is not the original instrument. And | |
| the reason I am saying this is because there is some of us who have sent an original in several times and they have not acknowledged or accepted it, and | |
| I know it is not for everybody, for some of us it could prove to be costly when you don't have very many funds to keep getting that copy... I know, I | |
| know, and that was part of the problem because we were never given full disclosure on how to operate this fucking governmental banking system. OK? It is | |
| a lot of trial and error. OK? So I am verifying: we do send that one in, not the... Yes, you have to send a certified copy in, yes. And if you do it | |
| right, using the right codes and everything else out here, especially Title 46 section 573-08, you are saying that this commercial governmental Secret | |
| Service--secret governmental banking service--indentured account is to be terminated... they have to comply, because it says in the law, after you turn | |
| 25, it may not be used for commercial operation. And yes, these guys do try and secretly modify and change the laws on us because we are not coming in | |
| with all the right banking laws that we need to go into, I mean you cannot go into a commercial bank and use a withdrawal slip from another bank. And in | |
| some cases, that is sort of the play up that we have been doing; we have been using the wrong banking forms to try and do the withdrawals. Like all the | |
| people that tried to use the SF24,25,25a, the 28, the OP90 and 91 forms; those were the wrong banking forms, those were for the corporations. Patrick, I | |
| have a question: Can you help me to see and understand, I have been hearing a lot about status and status correction, can you help me to see and | |
| understand what that might have to do with this process? Yeah, basically if you do not claim that you are a republic, like a South Carolina republic | |
| state citizen, then basically you are claiming the wrong thing; you are claiming to be the surety--the surety is the United States citizen. OK, so | |
| basically all I have to do is make a claim, but there is nothing I need to legally do, there is no processing any courts or any documents to file at the | |
| registrar of deeds or anything like that in order to use this process and me being found worthy to do it... It all depends! It all depends on what you | |
| are involved with; if you are trying to fight this in a court case, the best thing to do is to get a BAR attorney into that court case, a public | |
| defender or you hire your own attorney--banking attorney--to go into that court, and you give them the documents. OK? You assign them as having the | |
| power of attorney for this banking action for you. And then basically you are in the background; you are the living; the living cannot go into these | |
| commercial dead-person courts. That is why you always try and make the settlement before you get into court, like Paul (actually Jesus) said in the | |
| Bible: Settle with thy adversary before you get into court because you get into court and they are going to chew your ass up for their own benefit. | |
| See this commercial governmental banking system has been out here in the Babylonian banking system all the way back to Cain and Abel. Anybody else? |