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| d9cr4tk,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,Honestly it really made me realize how stupid and naive our country is...,1454,2016-10-29 14:31:43 |
| d9ct23v,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence, |
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| d9cu7zb,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,[deleted],580,2016-10-29 15:58:15 |
| d9csjqe,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"No it hasn't, it's been a reflection of our intelligence. ",445,2016-10-29 15:13:31 |
| d9cxjl4,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"We chose this. It's not an insult, it's a reflection. ",367,2016-10-29 17:21:34 |
| d9cukbc,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,[deleted],360,2016-10-29 16:06:59 |
| d9crscr,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,[deleted],341,2016-10-29 14:51:37 |
| d9cy9xy,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,ITT: the college kids of r/politics yet again explain how everyone is stupid *except them*.,251,2016-10-29 17:39:44 |
| d9cv9xm,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,[removed],236,2016-10-29 16:25:35 |
| d9cwkda,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"I agree we have a problem with reasonable discourse between opposing sides, but let's be very clear: a lot of the shit going on with the Trump campaign isn't a matter of discourse, it's a matter of fact denying. There is no ""agreeing"" on facts. Facts are facts, period. Trump supporters refuse, outright, to acknowledge certain facts and reality. That alone makes reasonable discourse with them next to impossible because they are *not reasonable*. You can't have a reasonable discussion about the environment with someone who believes climate change is a Chinese hoax anymore than you can have a reasonable discussion about French history with someone who believes they're Napoleon. In a normal situation, the mature reasonable thing to do would be to walk away and ignore them but in a presidential campaign, where their ignorance and fact denial is going to create very real, very serious tangible damage to our nation and our society, they can not be ignored.",223,2016-10-29 16:57:30 |
| d9csat6,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,I think Salon is more of an insult to our intelligence tbh,203,2016-10-29 15:06:31 |
| d9cuhbm,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,And our inability to talk to people we disagree with.,183,2016-10-29 16:04:53 |
| d9cvels,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"I teach middle school science and my students are learning fallacies in langauage arts, so I incorporate them into our scientific inquiries.",167,2016-10-29 16:29:01 |
| d9cuuhe,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"It's not an insult to our intelligence. It has exposed our lack of intelligence. We chose Trump. We chose him without him hiding who he is. We chose him not in spite of his idiotic statements and promises, but because of them. On election day a majority of the people in at least 20 states are going to says that they want Donald Trump to be the leader of most powerful military in the world. This is our country. ",164,2016-10-29 16:14:19 |
| d9d22p2,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"""If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice"" -Wayne Gretzky ",160,2016-10-29 19:14:57 |
| d9d2o61,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"I don't like Fox News but this statement in the article is misleading: ""Politifact has claimed that only 10 percent of what Fox News reports is true." |
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| Politifact does not fact check every claim made by Fox News so they can't speak about all of what Fox News reports. They only claim that 10% of what they actually fact check gets a True rating (which doesn't include Mostly True). |
| d9cv207,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence, |
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| This will never happen because those two new skills directly threaten dogma. I hate sounding like a conspiracy nut, but it seems to be the truth. Particularly as long as religion has any significant role in society - religion can't stand up to competent reasoning, so we can't risk children understanding logic. |
| d9d0goo,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence, |
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| > [What is this?](https://pastebin.com/64GuVi2F/71259) |
| d9ctp3z,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,It's not entirely our fault. The primaries are a messy situation that aren't very democratic or representative of voters. Our first-past-the-post system also kills the chances of having a third party candidate. ,103,2016-10-29 15:44:45 |
| d9cwb2m,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence, |
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| The success of an openly xenophobic, misogynist, hateful campaign is not surprising to me in the slightest. |
| d9cuf1p,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"The third party candidates this year were pretty terrible, though. ",96,2016-10-29 16:03:15 |
| d9cxld0,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence, |
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| This country is lost. |
| d9d1ibu,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,The rest chose to not have their voices counted.,87,2016-10-29 19:00:23 |
| d9cxix1,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,It's a testament to the fluidity of reality and consciousness. Our brains aren't designed to deal with hundreds of complex issues involving millions and billions of people. The vibe I get from ignorant people is that they are overwhelmed with the complexity of the exponential nature of life so they fall back on rudimentary principles instead of digging deeper to find the hard truths. ,86,2016-10-29 17:21:06 |
| d9cwn34,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence, |
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| I will say though that there's a lot a disparity in education in the US. I went to public school, but was able to take many AP classes. I remember (vaguely lol) that a core component of my history classes focused on historiography and evaluation of sources & POV- it was a way of teaching critical thinking that really resonated with me. |
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| On the other hand, I have a second cousin going through high school in a very small town; he makes all A's but recently took a PSAT where he scored abysmally. |
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| Some schools don't need education reform, but perhaps the majority of US schools do. ",83,2016-10-29 16:59:21 |
| d9d1jxn,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"I was so scared when that interview with Newt Gingrich (? I think?) said that fact didn't matter, what you felt mattered... |
| d9d3cxp,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"Even better, the college educated masses have just learned that democracy goes both ways. It isn't necessarily about what is best for the country, but what most of the country *wants*. Our nation is founded in part upon the principle that the will of the people *is* what is best for the country. When the will of the people is to legalize abortion, gay marriage, marijuana, and so on (technically, an executive order is the will of *one* person though), democracy is totes radical. When the will of the people is to secure the border, prevent illegal immigration, temporarily suspend refugee programs from countries with severe terrorism issues, and safeguard the second amendment, suddenly democracy is bad. There is no such thing as being on the right or wrong side of history - history is not an object to be on any side of. It is the record of what people have wanted or not wanted and how they have handled it through the ages. Democracy is a gentle chaos. Things change. Get used to it.",75,2016-10-29 19:48:07 |
| d9d2jmp,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,The fact that this website gets to the front page so often is disgusting. ,67,2016-10-29 19:27:14 |
| d9cvi12,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence, |
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| Please note that the following is coming through good intentions from a teacher: |
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| You need to temper your concept of what ""educational reform"" is. The term nowadays refers to a convergence of corporate interests and lobby movements, centered around privatization of all education. What policymakers and lobbyists mean by ""education reform"" is dismantling public education, and rebuilding it under for-profit brands. It has nothing to do with improving educational outcomes, and everything to do with monetizing them. |
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| You also need to understand that teachers do teach critical thinking. It's been a major sea change of the past decade and a half in pedagogy, and has seeped into all levels of education--from preK-12. |
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| Now you need to ask yourself: what good does teaching critical thinking skills do when it can be immediately and irreversibly undone by parents? What about the the fact that teachers have almost no control over curriculum anymore? Instead that's dictated in large part by school boards (often lacking actual educators) and parents. What's left to teachers is to do what's best for our students once the classroom door is closed. |
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| But a lifetime of indoctrination can't be resisted by teachers alone. What we need is not educational reform; what we need is parental reform.",67,2016-10-29 16:31:23 |
| d9d0n22,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,[removed],67,2016-10-29 18:38:28 |
| d9d2p4j,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,TIL Wayne Gretzky was the lead singer of Rush,64,2016-10-29 19:31:14 |
| d9crp27,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,[deleted],63,2016-10-29 14:48:56 |
| d9cvxgn,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"Speaking as someone with a security clearance, the email story, and Clinton's lying to cover it up was and is a genuine story of interest. It goes against the most basic tenets of national security, and a candidate's trustworthiness is a basic component of their electability. I was considering voting Republican, and I'm a lifelong liberal Democrat. |
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| Then Trump got the nom and that sealed in my vote for Hillary. |
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| The low-information bid for presidency didn't start with Trump though, it started with Romney, who may have run a more policy-free campaign than even Trump. |
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| Anyone remember how he was going to cut taxes based on the premise that he would limit deductions for rich folk, without naming a single one of those deductions? Or how he would keep the ""good parts of Obamacare"" while cutting all the steps that actually make the ""good parts"" viable? He did this while promising literally record economic GDP growth off his tax hikes. |
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| People seem to be remembering Romney as some sort of noble candidate since he didn't talk about his genitals on stage or drop any N-bombs, I guess. |
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| And in the end, what attacks stuck to romney? Not his complete lack of policy, it was dressage, and car elevators, and bullshit like that. |
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| The vast majority of the public doesn't want policy. Even Hillary, who is assuredly a wonk at heart, obfuscates policy at times and paints it in the broadest possible strokes at rallies.",61,2016-10-29 16:42:13 |
| d9cu61h,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,">This is rampant “bothsidesism,” since everyone knows that even if you despise Hillary Clinton, even if you think every policy prescription of hers is misguided, even if you feel she is a criminal who ought to be imprisoned, she hasn’t degraded our political discourse. |
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| >Wrong-headed or not, none of this explains Clinton’s July 2015 plunge; it only certifies it. What makes that plunge somewhat baffling is that Clinton made several major policy pronouncements that month – two laying out the broad strokes of her economic policy, and another discussing race. Again, whether you agreed with these pronouncements or not, she was being a serious candidate. It certainly couldn’t have accounted for the sudden turn by voters. |
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| >But policy wasn’t what the media were focused on that July. They were focused on emails. |
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| http://billmoyers.com/story/last-night-3/",60,2016-10-29 15:56:51 |
| d9cyvu6,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"And yet I kept getting bombarded during the primaries with ""we must choose Hillary, because only she can defeat Trump"". Ugh. For what it's worth I voted for Bernie. |
| d9d4hz7,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,[removed],58,2016-10-29 20:18:03 |
| d9cz8xa,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,ITT: /r/hillaryclinton and /r/iamverysmart with a dash of /r/2edgy4me ,52,2016-10-29 18:03:39 |
| d9cv5j0,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"Yep, Johnson and Stein have been the absolute worst damaging candidates to their own parties this election...it's pretty depressing to think about how bad they have been.",52,2016-10-29 16:22:24 |
| d9cyklq,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"Obama personally has been a pretty scandal free President. I think a lot of that has to due with his good character. You can't really say the same for Hillary. Also, in addition it's not so much the legal scandals that anger people it's more of her attitude. When Obama was running in 2008 he never played the race card, he stuck to policy. one of Hillary's main talking points now is about how she is a woman and how that should be reason enough to vote for her. I thin a perfect example of why a lot of people don't like Hillary is the way she handeled an interview question on NPR from Terry gross about her changing stance on gay marriage. Instead of saying that she has evolved on the issue, which would have been a very respectable response, she got mad and accused Terry of manipulating reality to make her look bad. ",52,2016-10-29 17:46:57 |
| d9cw003,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence, |
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| Ted Cruz and Rand Paul might love this idea...but i dont. |
| d9ct0s5,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"As a non American watching all of this, i have to agree with you. ",49,2016-10-29 15:26:25 |
| d9cwbek,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,And wood shop. ,49,2016-10-29 16:51:34 |
| d9cyfj4,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence, |
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| That sure as hell isn't true. I'm an atheist myself, but there are some *extremely* intelligent, well-educated and thoroughly logical theists out there. If you didn't know that, I humbly suggest you really need to get out more.",48,2016-10-29 17:43:33 |
| d9cxypy,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,[deleted],47,2016-10-29 17:32:10 |
| d9cwvfn,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"> We chose Trump. We chose him without him hiding who he is. We chose him not in spite of his idiotic statements and promises, but because of them. |
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| No, a plurality of Republican primary voters chose Trump. He's been [deeply unpopular amongst the general electorate](https://i.imgur.com/sQGjJNd.png) since the day he entered the race. |
| d9d5uz9,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"Welcome to r/politics, where buzzfeed, salon, vox, slate, and huffpost are considered legitimate news organizations.",45,2016-10-29 20:54:04 |
| d9cwe7d,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,History was kind to Reagan too. Doesn't mean that much.,44,2016-10-29 16:53:18 |
| d9cvg0g,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,[deleted],43,2016-10-29 16:30:01 |
| d9cyazz,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"I'm not surprised it's happening, but I'm still kind of surprised how people can still deny it's happening. |
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| The guy ""needs to do research"" before he'll disavow David fucking Duke ffs, and they'll get righteously *offended* if you suggest he might have a teensy little problem with racism. |
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| >**Trump:** ""Well, I have to look at the group. I mean, I don't know what group you're talking about. You wouldn't want me to condemn a group up that I know nothing about. I'd have to look. If you would send me a list of the groups, I will do research on them and certainly I would disavow them if I thought there was something wrong. But you may have groups in there that are totally fine and it would be very unfair... |
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| >**Tapper:** ""The Ku Klux Klan?"" |
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| >**Trump:** ""So give me a list of the groups and I'll let you know."" |
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| >**Tapper:** ""I'm just talking about David Duke and the Ku Klux Klan here."" |
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| >**Trump:** ""Honestly, I don't know David Duke. I don't believe I've ever met him, I'm pretty sure I didn't meet him, and I just don't know anything about him.""",42,2016-10-29 17:40:26 |
| d9cwpnu,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,That is outrageous. Somehow we should spread the word to middle and high schoolers that learning logical fallacies is a way to rebel against their parents. Maybe they will start sneaking behind the school to read logic textbooks ,41,2016-10-29 17:01:06 |
| d9d88rr,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"It's been the right's viewpoint for a while now. Remember the origin of the ""reality-based community"" phrase was Rove bragging that the right was *not part of the reality-based community* and how this was to their advantage, unlike the poor reality-hampered left.",41,2016-10-29 21:58:53 |
| d9cwich,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,America. Americans. We. ,40,2016-10-29 16:56:06 |
| d9cxqtd,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"Most of the Trump supporters I know support him because they see him as the ""lesser evil"", not because they really like him or agree with a lot of what he says. |
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| You have to understand that a lot of his supporters likely see Clinton as a potentially dangerous criminal being escorted to the presidency by the establishment that has been slowly creeping its way toward totalitarianism. I'm not a Trump supporter, and that's more or less what I see happening. ",40,2016-10-29 17:26:39 |
| d9d2wzl,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,One of the reasons I'm all for representative democracy over direct democracy. The average person doesn't have the ability nor the will to make so many big decisions for our country.,38,2016-10-29 19:36:47 |
| d9d0asg,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"In the past, pretty much anything Trump said would have sunk a campaign, so I guess things have changed.",37,2016-10-29 18:30:05 |
| d9cxljw,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"In my highschool, my AP classes were the only ones that felt like classes. Some of my non-AP classes were literally like a free period, where the teacher was a babysitter. The students talked to each other the entire time, and the teacher rarely gave any lectures or exams.",37,2016-10-29 17:22:57 |
| d9cyi4i,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"I too have held a clearance. I've also taken the time to read wikileaks, and virtually everything else I can find on Clinton's emails. I'm also an attorney. I don't think Clinton has lied (or certainly hasn't frequently lied ). Instead, I believe she goes right up to the edge but frequently doesn't cross the black lines into falsehoods. |
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| I think the vast majority of the ""issues"" with Clinton stem from the fact that she is a smart, often abrupt, and sometimes harsh individual. -- well that and extensive misinformation campaign (mostly Republican lead) against her. |
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| But on the other hand, I've come to understand certain realities. You don't want a ""nice guy"" as a leader. You want an effective leader that has some goals/desires in line with your beliefs. ",36,2016-10-29 17:45:17 |
| d9cvacm,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,Tack on history and moral reasoning.,35,2016-10-29 16:25:53 |
| d9cwgtg,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,">And our inability to talk to people we disagree with. |
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| Take a note /r/politics",34,2016-10-29 16:55:05 |
| d9cve1k,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,And racist. I always knew there were racists but I never new how many would come out of the woodwork to support a white nationalist. ,33,2016-10-29 16:28:37 |
| d9cylpy,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"It's simply amazing. Even a whiff of being investigated by the FBI would have automatically sunk candidates in previous years. In fact, those candidates would have had the decency to step down and abandon their candidacies over things like this. But apparently all you have to do is scream ""But the OTHER guy!!!"" to justify ignoring it. |
| d9cxrib,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,Depends which history book you're reading.,33,2016-10-29 17:27:09 |
| d9cwrzy,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,This article is an insult to my intelligence,32,2016-10-29 17:02:45 |
| d9dcffk,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"If they randomly sampled then they could accurately say that. But it's also probable their sample selection was biased toward things that sounded like they needed fact checking.
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| So the 10% probably isn't accurate but it would still serve as a relative benchmark to other networks that they evaluate with the same selection method.",32,2016-10-29 23:52:34 |
| d9d27zp,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"Well, and a bunch of foreigners like myself going ""No, this is pretty much what we have come to expect of you.""",32,2016-10-29 19:18:49 |
| d9czcwd,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"Nope, some of us supported Bernie and have seen through this bullshit election every step of the way ",31,2016-10-29 18:06:32 |
| d9d1f4r,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,[deleted],31,2016-10-29 18:58:07 |
| d9cwc64,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"What do you mean ""we""? I sure as hell didn't. |
| d9d4tmn,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"If 100% of Bernie Sanders leaning voters went out to vote, he would have won easily. ",30,2016-10-29 20:26:40 |
| d9d4msx,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence, |
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| I am no fan of charter or private schools - but I do think an overemphasis on obedience is a valid criticism applicable to many schools. |
| d9cra58,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,,29,2016-10-29 14:36:23 |
| d9d0qcw,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,Guilty till proven innocent amirite?,29,2016-10-29 18:40:44 |
| d9d3xlq,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,Canadians all start to blend together in my mind.,29,2016-10-29 20:03:01 |
| d9d0yim,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"Well for one, she plans to ban all GMOs and pesticides, which would result in the starvation deaths of millions of your countrymen. ",29,2016-10-29 18:46:24 |
| d9cyehn,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"Trump and Clinton are fucking terrible. I have yet to hear a single good argument as to why either deserve to be our president. They are both massively corrupt, neither of them have the ethics/morals of a good leader and neither of them have any idea of what it's like to be a normal, average American. ",28,2016-10-29 17:42:50 |
| d9czjds,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"> I agree we have a problem with reasonable discourse between opposing sides, but let's be very clear: a lot of the shit going on with the Trump campaign isn't a matter of discourse, it's a matter of fact denying. There is no ""agreeing" |
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| d9cx0kv,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence, |
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| Unintended consequence of people who are voting being more stupid than in past elections is the unfortunate result. |
| d9dblu3,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence, |
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| Political Science Professor who specializes in how and why people cling to (objectively false) beliefs and what kind of methods are most effective at changing (correcting) people. |
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| For example, here's one paper by him: [Which Corrections Work?](http://www.dartmouth.edu/~nyhan/nyhan-reifler-report-naf-corrections.pdf) |
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| The right way to approach this is the right way to approach any problem: with an open mind, a willingness to look past your own biases and self-conceits, and a focus on trial and peer review to separate what works from what doesn't.",28,2016-10-29 23:30:16 |
| d9cv650,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,For me it has shown a lack of education in our schools. I've seen (assuming this is correct) research that says less than 30% of people know the three branches of government. This is not a complicated theory or advanced math. Everyone should understand the basics of our government.,27,2016-10-29 16:22:51 |
| d9czfdy,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"No, a majority of Republican primary voters cost trump once the race was down to 3 candidates. The Republicans can't wave this away. You are what you eat, and the Republican base ate Trump",26,2016-10-29 18:08:18 |
| d9d48es,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"I mean yesterday Trump threw a black supporter out of his rally because he thought he was a protester. If you support a guy who sees a black person and assumes he must be protesting him, maybe there's a problems. ",26,2016-10-29 20:11:03 |
| d9cxtn0,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence, |
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| What makes Stein so awful? |
| d9d5a8j,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,he's a brit. pretty ironic comment considering that whole thing earlier this year.,26,2016-10-29 20:38:57 |
| d9cv435,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,I'm still in denial that all of this is even real,25,2016-10-29 16:21:23 |
| d9cwnq8,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"I think the lesson here is that we need to explore the cultural root of *why* this is occurring. I think that it is human nature that anytime the status quo is challenged (first black president, first woman president, greater acceptance of non traditional gender roles, etc), there will always be a segment of the population that reacts against that change. It will take a change of heart from these folks. No amount of fact/logic bombs will be able to penetrate this type of cognitive dissonance. They fundamentally *don't care*; it's an emotional issue.",25,2016-10-29 16:59:47 |
| d9czd1h,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence, |
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| Kierkegaard's ""leap to faith"" was where to go at the limits of pure reason for him. I must admit I never found Kierkegaard very interesting so don't know all that much about his views, but I'm making some assumptions here on what he meant by the phrase, which seem intuitive to me. |
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| I assure you that religion does NOT stifle critical thinking among the well educated. Quite the contrary. It often stimulates it. |
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| If you think there are no Ph.D.-level folks in the 160+ IQ range who believe in God, think again. I've met them and even debated them. That can be a lot of fun actually. But there's no winning such arguments generally speaking. Kept civil, both sides can learn a lot. |
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| We need more civility in this world.",25,2016-10-29 18:06:37 |
| d9cz4ma,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"I completely understand Clinton's antipathy towards and mistrust of the press. |
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| On the other hand, it has presented itself multiple times that every time she fucks up, she doesn't simply own up to it and move on. This was one of GWB's worst faults, and a dangerous fault for a President to have. |
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| She absolutely lied about the emails. She lied about not having anything marked classified, lied about it being allowed. When caught in those lies she moved the goalposts. |
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| It would've blown over if she had just said she misunderstood the security requirements. |
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| Disclaimer: and of corse Trunp lies far more often and more flagrantly, has a pathological inability to admit fault, and is profoundly hateful, ignorant of policy, and temperamental to boot. But I believe we should not turn a blind eye to our own manipulations of data, our own shortcomings. ",25,2016-10-29 18:00:47 |
| d9d59pi,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"Thank you. That didn't sound plausible. |
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| Not that 'True 10% of the time when we check' is great, but still. |
| d9czx2e,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"The only argument I've heard is ""but the other candidate is worse"". ",24,2016-10-29 18:20:33 |
| d9cysr1,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence, |
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| Well, sure, as confounding as that is. It doesn't make his statement not true. Religion IS illogical. You can't say it is anything but. It has no basis in reality. |
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| Your statement I quoted, while true sometimes, does not make the problem of ""religion stifles critical thinking"" any less true either. |
| d9d0d42,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence, |
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| At this moment, I can't actually fault anybody on either side that's reluctantly thinking one person isn't quite as bad as the other. |
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| But anybody that's really enthusiastic about their candidate this election makes me a little nervous. |
| d9d7oq8,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"No, they hate her because she's a liberal, and they claim she's corrupt because they aren't able to counter with actual policy. They've been attacking her with corruption charges for 25 years and came up with nothing every time, so either she's a complete machiavellan super genius who can cover up every single loose end, or she's not actually corrupt. ",24,2016-10-29 21:43:35 |
| d9d10td,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence, |
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| Hillary Clinton is intelligent, experienced, pragmatic, and hardworking. To pretend otherwise is willfully ignorant. |
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| Feel free to assert that she has flaws, and that those flaws take enough away from her well-established strengths that her overall candidacy fails to surpass your baseline skepticism of political candidates seeking the presidency. That's a reasonable claim. |
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| You can also have ideological reservations with Clinton. She's certainly made enough enemies in the last quarter-century to indicate an ideological split from a large chunk of America. Again, a reasonable claim. |
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| But this article indicts our ability to reason carefully, and hyperbole is a big part of the problem. So don't say you haven't heard 'a single good reason' to vote for either candidate. There are plenty, you have simply decided they aren't good enough when taken as a whole or they don't support your particular ideology or you want to ignore good arguments which don't support your overall assessment. That's a big part of the problem with political discourse. |
| d9d3mye,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,And what paradise are you from?,23,2016-10-29 19:55:17 |
| d9czxnu,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"For your consideration, watch John Oliver's piece on charter schools, and recognize that the vast majority of pre-k programs are privately owned, as are a disturbing number of elementary and secondary schools. We're already there.",23,2016-10-29 18:20:58 |
| d9d0uqo,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence, |
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| And now folks want to hand them the entire government, lock stock and barrel, so they can attack gays and make abortion illegal. How fucking stupid is this country? because they're worried about fucking emails. It's moronic. |
| d9d593v,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,Just my luck that the first election I'm able to vote in is this one.. ,22,2016-10-29 20:38:07 |
| d9d1jlc,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"After a very special and very convincing meeting. |
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| And after the FBI gave a bunch of people immunity. |
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| And after the FBI decided not to investigate a huge mount of information available to them |
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| which was only discovered after an investigation on the investigation didn't get all the information requested and subsequently subpoenaed them to provide it, which they finally then provided the information but gave no good reason for why they didn't bother to investigate which was clearly important and damning evidence. |
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| But yeah, not a criminal. Not corrupt. Nope.",22,2016-10-29 19:01:17 |
| d9d3npf,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"With Clinton supporters, you mostly get spin, not outright truth denying the truth. ",22,2016-10-29 19:55:49 |
| d9d0lyl,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"We'll be unpacking the epistemological underpinnings of this election for some time to come. Or at least until the next one... |
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| The most surprising thing to me about this cycle is how *noob* it all feels. From media coverage to voters to pundits to the Republican nominee. You just keep wanting to say ""Is this literally the first election you've ever seen?"" not just in US presidential but as if the entire concept of an election is sorcery all of a sudden. |
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| d9d4bqe,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"Nope! It's been a *demonstration* how how money has utterly shattered any ""governance by the people"" we may have originally had going on, and a further demonstration how unified media-conglomerates fight against the people to manipulate them, not for them by getting the truth out. Money, in the end, eats the heart out of a democracy. If you have the cash you are more equal than someone who does not. |
| d9d20zx,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence, |
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| He made a lot of lofty, unlikely-to-be-achieved promises and spewed a lot of BS plans that would have worked out terribly. He painted it all in a very beautiful and convincing light, and had (has) a lot of people lapping up his objectively broken plans. |
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| To just default to ""I'm not dumb because I support Bernie, not Trump or Clinton"" is exactly the line of thinking this article is critical of. The fact of the matter is that we've backed ourselves into a corner where the politician with the most powerful, relatable rhetoric - not the one with the most effective policy - is the one that walks away with the win. Bernie still falls under that umbrella. |
| d9czpyl,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence, |
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| LOL. This is the kind of thing the title of the article is referring to. |
| d9cxruk,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,[deleted],21,2016-10-29 17:27:23 |
| d9d3tti,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"I took a lot of AP classes too, and I also learned a lot about primary sources and such. So when I'd try to tell my parents that no, Columbus really did commit genocide, and there are *primary sources from people who were there*, they brushed it off. It's imperative to teach critical thinking and not just blind obedience and patriotism.",21,2016-10-29 20:00:17 |
| d9d49l3,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence, |
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| Oh come on. |
| d9d1cyc,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,The funniest thing in the tread is this notion that support for Clinton or being democrat makes you 'smart' de facto.,20,2016-10-29 18:56:32 |
| d9d1ts3,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,Because they no longer believe in the process and I honestly don't blame them. Just look how systemic media and organizations (DNC) treated Sanders.,20,2016-10-29 19:08:33 |
| d9cz194,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"No you would need a popular youtuber to be a antishithead-shithead to teach fallacies in an indirect way. Then kids wouldn't get the point and use them all wrong until they have ~~to incorporated wrongly into the definition like they did with the word ""literally""~~ Something something ""irregardless"". |
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| E: Learned a thing? |
| d9d0gnc,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"She legitimately doesn't understand science, there were articles posted like a month ago of all the dumb shit that's proven that she doesn't believe in",19,2016-10-29 18:34:01 |
| d9d8k26,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence, |
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| Congress' approval ratings are in the single digits. Only 6% trust the media. |
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| This has nothing to do with Trump being stupid, or anything of that nature, and only has to do with the complete rejection of those like those that wrote this article at Salon.",18,2016-10-29 22:07:35 |
| d9cyzsa,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"Likewise, the success of of a corrupt war-mongering candidate whose main selling point is ""the other guy is worse!"" is equally disappointing.",18,2016-10-29 17:57:28 |
| d9cywq9,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"Don't forget, we are all racists too! |
| d9d09hk,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,[deleted],18,2016-10-29 18:29:11 |
| d9czbn6,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"But that's a chicken/egg situation imo. The system in place gives no chance to third parties, so anyone who could be a viable politician doesn't bother with joining them.",18,2016-10-29 18:05:36 |
| d9cxrnf,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"I don't totally disagree, but we shouldn't ignore decades of class warfare against education in the US. I mean, sure, you're right, parents tend to be slightly more conservative. But when you have funding being eviscerated, increasing privatization grabs, teachers unions being constantly undermined and being forced to *constantly* teach kids to recite an ultimately meaningless test it's hard to calculus let alone epistemology.",18,2016-10-29 17:27:16 |
| d9cxap5,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"The harm is there are literal laws that govern this kind of thing which she is not being held accountable to. Anyone who works near these industries is on notice of the cumbersome amount of procedure involved that she exempted herself from, because she's special. Hillary is not stupid, and even if she was they actually sit her down in a chair and explain her accesses and requirements in detail when she is placed. ",18,2016-10-29 17:15:30 |
| d9d26ec,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,[deleted],18,2016-10-29 19:17:39 |
| d9d4tux,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence, |
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| I will say though, I hate having to vote for positions like judges at a local level. There's no way most voters are going to have the right knowledge on who makes a good judge, even I don't. |
| d9cxv7x,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,[deleted],18,2016-10-29 17:29:44 |
| d9db5j3,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence, |
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| ""We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors…and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do."" |
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| We're studying alright. Studying the long-term destabilization of about half a continent. Don't see much of those guys anymore. |
| d9cu9p7,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence, |
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| ""This is real life"" |
| d9cvko9,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence, |
| > People had their choice. They decided to go with the guy who made the debates about his small ""adequate, believe me"" - penis. |
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| By ""significant part of the public"" you mean ""Republican primary voters."" The Democratic debates were about policy, and Clinton has put forth more detailed policy proposals than any presidential candidate ever. |
| d9d2rf4,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,- Michael Scott,17,2016-10-29 19:32:50 |
| d9d2f8o,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence, |
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| Citation needed. You can't just throw a majority of schools under the bus like that. That public schools teach obedience is a fallacy perpetuated by partisans on both sides to bolster privatization arguments.",17,2016-10-29 19:24:06 |
| d9cxtwt,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"What's a ""history book""? A good chunk of the electorate doesn't even know how tax brackets work.",17,2016-10-29 17:28:49 |
| d9czzlf,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"Belief in God is more like deism than theism for highly educated people, which is much easier to defend. No educated person would say with a straight face than God intervenes personally in everyone's lives or answers prayers. And IQ has nothing to do with someone being wrong or right about something. |
| d9cy1oy,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"This election really is an IQ test. It's a choice between a person with a few character flaws, and a person who is openly corrupt.",16,2016-10-29 17:34:09 |
| d9d4624,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,You mean elected him for the first time,16,2016-10-29 20:09:17 |
| d9czlsn,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,[deleted],16,2016-10-29 18:12:44 |
| d9cx3e9,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"Oh, man, imagine if corporations invested in education to the extents where you'd see corporate elementary schools. That's a weird thought.",16,2016-10-29 17:10:29 |
| d9cwsya,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,Definitely wood shop. How could I forget? ,16,2016-10-29 17:03:24 |
| d9cwaj9,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence, |
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| Critical thinking isn't a particularly difficult skill, and it can be taught without a political bias. It should be the foundation of learning for everyone, not an optional diversion from math and reading.",15,2016-10-29 16:50:59 |
| d9d1dv4,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"I teach American History and Society in Europe and my students are vastly more informed about US Institutions, government and history than my US students of the same level. |
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| d9d3fm9,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,[deleted],15,2016-10-29 19:49:58 |
| d9d3iy9,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,That's /r/politics for ya'.,15,2016-10-29 19:52:24 |
| d9d7i4l,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"Very good point. But something to note as well is that many of the people that are complaining about the process are concerned about the objectively bad choices. I can understand the right's fiscal ideas, but I can't say the same for their thoughts on some restrictions on personal freedoms like gay marriage. ",15,2016-10-29 21:38:41 |
| d9ctdxa,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"""Average"" can refer to median, and intelligence is normally distributed so the mean and median are the same anyway. But thanks for illustrating.",15,2016-10-29 15:36:13 |
| d9d119l,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"""People can't talk to each other politely anymore"" |
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| ""People can't talk because the other side is jerks"" |
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| _smh_",15,2016-10-29 18:48:16 |
| d9ctrnt,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"Oh, God yes. I used to read Salon and Slate every morning (Slate going back to the 90s) just to balance my news diet and get progressive perspectives. Several years ago they each became so vitriolic and assinine that I couldn't force myself to suffer them. I still try to get a moderate/progressive view, but now I use sources like the NYT for that. Of course, it says something about the evolution of the MSM that they now just provide political balance for me. |
| d9d1c7q,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,[deleted],14,2016-10-29 18:55:59 |
| d9cuqu9,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,[removed],14,2016-10-29 16:11:41 |
| d9cv9a9,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,I'm just looking forward to quitting my year long binge drinking on Nov.9,14,2016-10-29 16:25:09 |
| d9d4jo4,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"I think the point is that it isn't corruption, it just looks that way to people unfamiliar with how the sausage gets made. Politics looks ugly, but most of what people don't like seeing is just standard operating procedure that is that way for a reason.",14,2016-10-29 20:19:19 |
| d9d556e,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,If you don't vote in a representative democracy you can't complain about not getting represented.,14,2016-10-29 20:35:10 |
| d9d39as,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,We didn't have any ground troops in Libya. Yes Iraq war but it's not make or break for me. She wants a no fly zone first through diplomcy then through force. The situation is a human rights disater. And she has explicitly said putting boots on the ground is a mistake.,14,2016-10-29 19:45:40 |
| d9d0f34,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,ITT: Reddit ist enlightened by its own intelligence.,13,2016-10-29 18:32:58 |
| d9d19j3,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"It's an insult to our intelligence when Bill meets Loretta and they tell us it's just to catch up. It's an insult when Clinton sticks to her script about not sending classified emails after Comey confirms that she did. It's an insult to say Russia hacked Podesta when it's now pretty clear it was a simple phishing attack. It's an insult when Clinton says she has a public and private position and has flipped on just about every topic she is campaigning on and the media still believes her bullshit. It's an insult that even though massive media collusion has been discovered, involving over 40 anchors, editors and journalists, they all still have their jobs. It's an insult when pussy grab gets 10 times the media coverage than Podesta leaks. The crybully left fucked themselves by pushing Clinton as some sort of progressive. Trump promises to be the change candidate, and since Obama wasn't and Clinton is clearly not I can see him winning this November. |
| d9d134l,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,My tipping point was when we re-elected Bush.,13,2016-10-29 18:49:35 |
| d9d18st,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"No facts to back this up, but I think it's possible that this is the first election a lot of people have paid attention to. We have a massive group of Millenials who are eligible vote in a presidential election for the first time, more than in 2012. We have a lot of undereducated Americans who have been drawn to the Trump brand in a way no other candidate has been able to do in a long time. We have a major party presidential candidate who has never run for office or served-- and doesn't appear to listen to those that have. ",13,2016-10-29 18:53:33 |
| d9d68xx,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence, |
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| d9d6cp6,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,Another ruined shit hole slowly drowning in it's own crazy.,13,2016-10-29 21:07:21 |
| d9d0smm,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,I agree. I think the bar has been lowered for both major parties.,13,2016-10-29 18:42:18 |
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| I think the core problem of representative democracy is that you have to elect people that are well educated, but those rarely grew up in lower class. So the lower class most of the time is having to vote for people that just don't really know their struggles. Then someone like Trump comes around that just lies and says whatever they want to hear, obviously they will vote for him. If Trump wins I'm expecting a similar reaction as there was in Brittain after about 100 days; what happened and this is not what I've been promised!? ",13,2016-10-29 21:44:55 |
| d9d3qsk,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"As much as I hate to be *that* liberal who sites a Noam Chomsky statement the day after Bill Maher does, it is relevant so....it's not that Americans aren't intelligent. They are, but they direct their intellectual abilities to other things, such as sports. Chomsky believed this was because the average American can have no real impact on political affairs so they might as well live in a fantasy world of sorts. |
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| http://www.alternet.org/noam-chomsky-why-americans-know-so-much-about-sports-so-little-about-world-affairs",12,2016-10-29 19:58:05 |
| d9cwk81,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"> We chose him without him hiding who he is. |
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| I think the primaries would've gone much differently if the world knew what they knew about him then. They're just rallying behind him now and pushed over the edge by, as Michael Moore put it, the idea of ""lobbing a human hand grenade into Washington."" |
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| I hate both of them and I feel compelled to spite both of their die-hard supporters. I voted for Bernie.",12,2016-10-29 16:57:23 |
| d9d3n2m,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"You have it backwards. Being democrat doesnt make you intelligent, but intelligence/education increases your probability of choosing democrat.",12,2016-10-29 19:55:22 |
| d9d29m0,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,This rant just proves the point of the article...,12,2016-10-29 19:19:59 |
| d9d1406,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"> know everything about the economy and debt |
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| And the law, and political policy, and science and...",12,2016-10-29 18:50:13 |
| d9cy8nu,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"I agree, but logic in college is more of a math class. Philosophy 101 is where you learn the major fallacies.",12,2016-10-29 17:38:53 |
| d9cvh66,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"Aw c'mon man, as if I wasn't depressed enough already. ",12,2016-10-29 16:30:49 |
| d9d2kuz,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,Not wanting to be a part of a party and being unable to vote is different than not choosing,12,2016-10-29 19:28:07 |
| d9cz9mk,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"I think the point what u/itsprobablysarcasm was trying to make that neither Trump or Clinton should be a nominee to run the most powerful and influential country in the world. |
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| d9cy7c4,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"Newsflash, the average American is stupid and vapid as fuck. ",11,2016-10-29 17:38:00 |
| d9d9x0d,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,It's pretty hilarious that you're using a shoot the messenger fallacy in a thread about lack of rational thinking. ,11,2016-10-29 22:44:38 |
| d9dabpo,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"Could be, I also wonder though if some of it is more just that we're more connected to the internet and social media than we were in 2012. It might seem like it wasn't that long ago but in the past 4 years Apple and Samsung have sold a few hundred million more phones, FB and Google have only continued to grow and enhance their presence and of course Reddit's popularity only increased. |
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| Couple that to greater distribution of broadband(and via LTE) and there's this apparent effect that suddenly we have tons of new voices being heard (and amplified) |
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| (which isn't even to mention the international/Russian tampering...) |
| d9dcw50,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence, |
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| Got a comment the next day saying Critical Thinking is bs college liberal propaganda designed to make people not question what they're told in school. |
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| It hurt my brain that day trying to argue with this guy.",11,2016-10-30 00:05:07 |
| d9cvw04,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"Empiricism and Utiltarianism require some education to comprehend, and they, like most honest philosophies lean towards equality. Philosophical studies require education n that won't do. |
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| Republican and bovine values oddly need much more education. Distorting Hegel or being an air-breathing moral relativist are hard intellectual work. Of course these positions are incompatible with bad science on environment or abortion or formal religious doctrine. |
| d9cwlbw,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"This is absolutely, what capitalism has become, its not happy enough in the space it has and is moving into everything and every corner of our lives. ""Privatization"" is a bad idea, no matter how we look at it its not a good thing for the education system or the punishment system we have setup. But $ talks apparently..",11,2016-10-29 16:58:09 |
| d9d21kh,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,Damn all those donations providing aids relief for millions. ,11,2016-10-29 19:14:06 |
| d9d4y2c,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"When obedience and apathy are the cornerstones that hold together the appearance of democracy, education and logic become the enemy. ",11,2016-10-29 20:29:55 |
| d9d6btw,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,[deleted],11,2016-10-29 21:06:41 |
| d9cwtca,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,[deleted],11,2016-10-29 17:03:40 |
| d9d5rc4,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"Yep. Most people are citing stuff like her views on alternate ""sciences"". And sure, they could be better, but most of it seems like pandering. What's really dangerous is if she's allowed to enact her economic policies, it could very well send the US into another depression (not a recession like in 08), and in turn cost hundreds of thousands lives as a consequence.",11,2016-10-29 20:51:26 |
| d9cybap,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence, |
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| Clinton, on the other hand, has had decades to ingratiate herself to the political machine and is seeing the dividends of it while people just throw their hands in the air and say, ""Yeah she broke the law but OH WELL DURRRRRR"". That's as far as any Hillary supporter is willing to take it, because the ends will always justify the means.",11,2016-10-29 17:40:38 |
| d9czjhm,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,You know you're losing when you have no choice but to call your political opponents stupid. ,10,2016-10-29 18:11:07 |
| d9cvdfk,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"This. So many of our issues if you peal back the layers points to our educational system. Spend more on education= spending less keeping people in jail later on. No child left behind might have sounded great in theory but, talk about a real disaster.",10,2016-10-29 16:28:10 |
| d9d2klf,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence, |
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| d9czqee,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"You might mean bombarded on reddit with that comment. I went door to door for Bernie and that confronted that sentimentality face to face, over and over. It was stunning, I asked ""why do you think that"" and it would fry their brains... She has experience losing while Bernie has a history of unification across the aisle as an independent. I am convinced name recognition lost us this year and only barely. ",10,2016-10-29 18:15:57 |
| d9d9bth,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence, |
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| Again with this bullshit. This is how investigations work. To have witnesses testify without incriminating themselves, immunity is given to people with information to make it *easier* to collect evidence of any criminal wrongdoing. |
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| If Clinton aides weren't given witness immunity, they'd be able to plead the fifth and say nothing at all. |
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| d9czih4,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence, |
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| Critical Thinking is about formal and informal rhetorical fallacies, knowing the difference between induction and deduction, learning what validity and soundness mean and how to determine when a bit of deductive reasoning is valid and/or sound, and learning to gauge the strength of inductive reasoning. Sometimes Critical Thinking courses include a bit of symbolic logic, but in my opinion, that's really only useful insofar as it helps develop a certain habit of procedural thought.",10,2016-10-29 18:10:27 |
| d9czx51,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"The entire 2016 election and several leading up to it, are just a reflection of the intelligence of the country. But more so, our willful ignorance of facts and context.",9,2016-10-29 18:20:36 |
| d9d16tb,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,Oh gee another hit piece on republicans.,9,2016-10-29 18:52:09 |
| d9cwcrr,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"To me is shows a strain of provincialism that is really shocking in our ""rich"" country. Trump has exploited fear of the ""other"". I wish it was mandatory for Americans to travel abroad in service (like the peace corps) so that everyone has exposure to different cultures. With that exposure, I think it would be so much harder to exploit base fear and apprehension of segments of our population.",9,2016-10-29 16:52:24 |
| d9cyg25,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"John Oliver is ""smart comedy""? |
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| Awwww I get it know. I understand! You watch it because that is what you think intelligent people watch! And if you're watching it...!! It means you're intelligent! |
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| And you've been told intelligent people make the best decisions so..... |
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| Eureka!!! I've got it! You all think that you are intelligent if you agree with John Oliver! When you ask people if they say John Oliver you are really saying ""hey, are you smart like me?"" And THATS why people get overly enthusiastic to say they saw it! |
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| I've solved you guys! You just want to feel smart without having to do any thinking! |
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| That's kind of sad actually.... but at least I understand what you guys are trying to think. ",9,2016-10-29 17:43:55 |
| d9cxu8p,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,/r/iamverysmart,9,2016-10-29 17:29:03 |
| d9d5du2,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"She has great economic and social policies, while Trump's are a disaster. Also more people are voting against Clinton than against Trump: http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/clinton-voters-arent-just-voting-against-trump/ |
| d9d2f3k,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence, |
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| This statement would need to be highly qualified to even start to be true. |
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| First of all, if you look around the world, there are plenty of world leaders who are clearly extremely corrupt, to a point beyond which most would even speculate Hillary is. |
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| Secondly, within American politics, there are plenty of well-documented examples of more corrupt American politicians around the country who are entirely pay-for-play. |
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| Thirdly, the Clinton Foundation is a poor example of corruption, because, regardless of what they might do on the side, they actually perform a real-world benefit in providing medical care to people who would not otherwise receive it. |
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| d9cvd4d,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence, |
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| This is [completely wrong](http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/clinton-voters-arent-just-voting-against-trump/). |
| d9dd09o,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"""Nobody wants to say they ate 9 cans of ravioli"" - Pierre Trudeau",9,2016-10-30 00:08:17 |
| d9da55x,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence, |
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| Trump regularly repeats lines from Alex Jones of Infowars, an out-and-out conspiracy theorist who believes that Sandy Hook was a false flag government operation, that Obama planned to declare martial law and cancel the election, and that FEMA is going to send hundreds of millions of Americans to death camps so the New World Order can take over. Trump, the republican nominee, has lauded the ""great work"" that Alex Jones does, and promises his listeners that they will love his presidency. At the same time, he has made Stephen Bannon, head of Breitbart News, his campaign CEO. Breitbart is the hub of the alt-right, a movement that supports white ethnonationalism and claims that whites are superior to other races due to better genetics, and that blacks and middle easterners are inherently inferior beings. |
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| This is not spin, this is not ""both sides are bad,"" Trump's campaign has courted and *incorporated* the very conspiracy/lunatic fringe of American politics into his campaign. I honestly believe that the majority of Trump supporters don't realize the dark political forces Trump has conjured and co-opted into his movement. There was a time for pointing fingers at both the left and the right for the decline in polite political discourse, but Trump's campaign is not it. The apocalyptic fringe of the Republican Party does not deal in facts or polite discourse, and the public needs to wholly reject them and drive them out from our mainstream politics.",9,2016-10-29 22:50:46 |
| d9d8jpv,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"Politicians that take money from large corporations in exchange for policy they prefer, and sometimes write themselves, is corruption. Appointing executives to regulate their own industries is corruption. Permanent war for the edification of the military industrial complex is corruption. |
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| Bigoted conservatives are still human beings, and while they are largely uninformed, they know the system is corrupt, and unlike Obama, they have legitimate claims about Clinton. It isn't disingenuous, you're just not open to criticism of your candidate, which is the subject of this thread. ",9,2016-10-29 22:07:20 |
| d9d21ak,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"Yeah, it would be ridiculous to vote for the crooked businessman who has lost hundreds of fraud related cases and has clearly been involved in bribery and other serious crimes, just because the opponent is a stiff bureaucrat who struggles with being transparent.",8,2016-10-29 19:13:55 |
| d9cv3tl,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"Yeah, we all need to be more understanding and open minded to fascists. It's just political disagreements and we are all Americans, right? |
| d9d9iea,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence, |
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| >Kirk responded, “I had forgotten that your parents came all the way from Thailand to serve George Washington.” |
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| d9d0osn,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,When has Trump dropped N bombs? Or are you just being hyperbolic. ,8,2016-10-29 18:39:40 |
| d9d1llj,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence,"Actually, the [figurative/hyperbolic use of the word ""literally,""](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ai_VHZq_7eU) has been around for a long time.",8,2016-10-29 19:02:43 |
| d9dhg7e,5a0od9,I’m with stupid: The entire 2016 election has been an insult to our intelligence, |
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| Trump also discusses an abortion the day before a birth. A delivery? |
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| Climate change is a hoax, right? But buy Chinese steel. Also he had an actual hoax university and birther hoax. |
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