/edg/ - Ecchi Diffusion General

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>>2861728 hit the image limit

/edg/ is the home of 1girl posting. Here, we share AI-generated pics of sexy anime girls and discuss latest advancements in 1girl-related technology.
Remember to keep it /e/, as per board rules. If unsure about what you can or cannot post here, consult the sticky thread.

> FAQ (check here first)
https://rentry.org/edg-faq#general | https://rentry.org/edg-faq#technica<wbr>l

> Local UIs
WebUI Forge, an A1111 fork optimized for SDXL (faster genning speed on low-mid vram gpus): https://github.com/lllyasviel/stabl<wbr>e-diffusion-webui-forge
ComfyUI: https://github.com/comfyanonymous/C<wbr>omfyUI | https://github.com/shiimizu/ComfyUI<wbr>_smZNodes

> Resources and guides
Useful links: https://rentry.org/sdg-link | https://rentry.org/rentrysd | https://rentry.org/sd-mashup
A1111 Wiki: https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/st<wbr>able-diffusion-webui/wiki/
Tags: https://danbooru.donmai.us/wiki_pag<wbr>es/tag_groups
Upscalers: https://openmodeldb.info
LoRa training: https://rentry.org/lora_train | https://rentry.org/59xed3 | https://civitai.com/articles?tags=1<wbr>28645
Git-wiki of the technical Stable Diffusion papers: https://codeberg.org/tekakutli/neur<wbr>alnomicon
Animation: https://rentry.org/AnimAnon | https://rentry.org/AnimAnon-Deforum<wbr> | https://rentry.org/AnimAnon-AnimDif<wbr>f

> LoRA downloads
https://rentry.org/ponyxl_loras_n_s<wbr>tuff | https://rentry.org/ponyxl_lora_prev<wbr>iews
https://rentry.org/trashcollects
https://rentry.org/zp7g6
https://rentry.org/hdglorarepo

> Thread highlights archive (deprecated)
https://archived.moe/e/thread/28435<wbr>95#2843598

> OP template
https://rentry.org/edg-op/raw

> /edg/ logo
OP: https://files.catbox.moe/uc2ntj.png<wbr> | Anchor: https://files.catbox.moe/bx1lo2.png<wbr> (more color schemes in the FAQ Rentry)

> Related generals
>>>/aco/sdg
>>>/d/ddg
>>>/g/sdg
>>>/h/hdg
>>>/trash/sdg
>>>/u/udg
>>>/vg/aids
>>>/vt/vtai
>>>/wsg/aicg

RIP other OP.<br>The brightest star burns the fastest.

Thank for bake. Also very nice OP image.

>>2863213
35 something images and you dont include mine

>>2863227
>3 or 4 images
>Mine got included

>>2863229
Kek, he prolly means that OP posted 35 images, not that he posted 35 gens in the previous thread, that would be too much.
Anyways, mine also missing, but I'm happy with the choices and that we still have an effort OP.

>>2863216
Oh god, I need that Cirno. Previous thread, yeah?

>>2863158
>Now that I've been delivered, won't you give me an order? Would you like me to serve you as the doll I am, or should I pretend to be a person? I could be your newlywed wife, your submissive imouto, your live-in maid, or perhaps I could pretend to be who I was before becoming a doll? Maybe you'd like me to be oblivious to you, or to be your furniture? Anything is alright.

00463-1665984788-source_anime, score_9, score_8_up, (kawakami rokkaku_0.8), (fyx_0.4), (uno makoto_0.6)_BREAK_1girl, cowboy shot, slender, flat c.png

>>2863212
Would someone be willing to make a picture of a girl at the beach terrified of being caught wearing nothing but paint?

Wife fell down... I couldn't protec her.<br>(was actually trying for wariza)

>>2863246
Well it was supposed to be, but this particular gen is kinda weird with long hair and all.
I think these were closer: >>2863198 >>2863204 >>2860635 >>2860702 >>2860705
Wings are all over the place too.

1711666297549105-90848052-source_anime, score_9, score_8_up, (kawakami rokkaku_0.8), (fyx_0.4), (uno makoto_0.6)_BREAK_6+ girls, standing, red eyes, (empt.png

>>2863212
Request to take pic related and turn it into something like >>2837382

20240513150852-konno_tohiro, breasts, looking at viewer, blush, smile, bangs, multiple girls, thighhighs, gloves, 2girls, cleavage, jewelry, sw-0d0b1e.png

>>2863252
Haha, thanks! An attempt was made!

For the colors specifically, how are they? result of my chosen photo editor's base "level adjustments."

>>2863244
I had a phase where I generated a crapton of this. Unfortunately all at poor settings before I understood the tools better so have this modern-day remake.
>>2863258
That's pretty nice from a generalist perspective. But color balance depends on your objective, if it was to create a cool style then you've achieved that. But if you wanted show accuracy it could be less saturated and use simpler shading. Personally I like that style and think you should keep it the way it is.

20240513163735-yabby, 1girl, solo, sona__(league_of_legends_), huge breasts, puffy nipples, (bodypaint), painted clothes, nude, beach, exhibiti-0f1f85.png

>>2863212

requesting the bikini be edited out of this pic of anis.
if you're feeling ambition extending her stirrup socks to go up to mid thigh would be hot to but of lesser importance.

>>2863263
Just the removal of the top. Here's an alt version: https://files.catbox.moe/kcfe3i.png<wbr>

20240513185434-1girl, solo, breasts, outdoors, sunglasses, jacket, topless, nipples, beach, smile, eyewear on head, can, bikini bottom only, br-2f3dfc.png

>>2862921
If the anon that posted this is still around, care to share the catbox? I like DFC snake ladies a lot.

>>2863285
>>2863286
extremely based
10/10
chibi tewi is beautiful

>>2863286
Didn't feature her because she's lacking assets.
But she's still cute so she still makes images better just by being there.

>>2863288
incredible
tears are streaming down my face

>>2863224
He announced his retirement >>2862844
>>2863227
Don't take offense if you're missed. I'm just a regular anon like the rest of you.

>>2863294
Space bubble girl already has stealth png info but here's the final as well as the base gen.
https://litter.catbox.moe/0ppbz9.pn<wbr>g
https://litter.catbox.moe/e74pdo.pn<wbr>g

>>2863212
ranma-chan, trans colored crop top, short shorts, front view, open legs, Over-the-Knee Boots, anhego, begging for cum

>>2863261
Oh wow, not my first choice but I can see you put effort into it so thank you very much. It is well constructed.

This is not what I had in mind when I prompted for bear panties...

>>2863300
Is that Juri from Digimon tamers?

>>2863278
I'm around, here's catbox for the original, unfixed version:
https://files.catbox.moe/zso10f.png<wbr>

I think after this, all I did was inpaint the face with the same prompt.

>>2863305
>why not
Do more of dat High-Elf Archer: well-endowed Edition >>2863206

>>2863310
>High-Elf Archer
Sorry, local models haven't unlocked this or any other arch-related class yet.

>>2863212
requesting similar-looking girls lined up much like this >>2863251 except instead of latex it's robot girls

>>2863310
I only have this one, it was more of an experiment to see how well NAI recognized the leaf bikini tag

{{ciloranko, rrr, kincora}}, long hair, blonde hair, elf, leaf hair ornament, bl s-3996191423.png

So, anons, what's your outlook on the state of the XL scene? It feels much, much slower paced than in 1.5, where models were coming out left and right, no?

https://mega.nz/folder/GRJWDaxD#VJb<wbr>q1JaoYYY54nkueeCJUQ

>>2863347
Pony models has been pumping out faster than ever. 100+ ponyxl loras got uploaded yesterday on civitai. Considering the greater difficulty in producing XL models compared to 1.5 models this is pretty impressive imo.

>>2863347
it's gonna be slower at the very least because of higher hardware requirements
I barely even use loras with my 6GB vram because they make gens much slower with extra model loading time

>>2863212
Can I get a fit girl, with visible abs, with long black hair and pale skin? Seems like most fit girls and tomboys have short hair and/or tanned skin, and I have a craving.

>>2863300
I like the "something is touching my back" face on Juri

>>2863375
nyooo where are her wings.....

>>2863377
Impossible, I tried everything. Have to wait like 5 months to get the wings......

1girl, cirno, artist_curss, {{{melting}}}, scared, wavy mouth, fire s-1956123068.png

>>2863324
Hi, sire, we do have a variety of products that may satisfy your necessities, yes.

>>2863347
As far as checkpoints? It's slowed down but we're also getting less shitmixes so it's a mixed bag.

As far as loras? "slowed down" is a strong phrase. I can't stay on top of pony loras despite checking newest multiple times a day.

There's also SD3 "right around the corner" which is making people pause.

>>2863371
https://mega.nz/folder/mdhjgKaa#sPN<wbr>WtX7eAyaKjZoqY_OHrg

She is smelly because she works out a lot.

>>2863386
>>2863371
> forgot the pale skin.
Well, here you go again, sorry for spamming.

Don't mind me, just learned inpainting.
This is going to open up worlds to me.

How the fuck did I ever do without this...?

1711666297549214-1634969559-source_anime, score_9, score_8_up, (fyx_0.4), (kawakami rokkaku_0.8), (uno makoto_0.6)_BREAK_4girls, lineup, (identical girls_1.png

>>2863212
Requesting sci-fi western lewds.
Think on Trigun, GunXSWord, Wild Arms.
Not those series on particular, just the vibes

>>2863212
before and after corruption image

>>2863392
the ones without torso cover have a discount I assume

>>2863347
It feels like there's less demand for LoRAs for now since the data set is newer but that will change over time and it becomes out of date.

>>2863397
they're for me to [redacted due to /e/] on

>>2863391
>>2863401
these are really great
why is she an elf tho

>>2863371
https://mega.nz/folder/yEYwTBbb#kk6<wbr>9JBb-3OwG2K2pWw0Brg

And some more.

The evolution of this is crazy. On left is something I prompted 2 years ago, on the right I did something today after remembering I had this installed.

What else are you guys doing to make your raw output better? Or are you guys post editing?

>>2863212
>>2863193
I need something sexy featuring this girl. Masturbating while making a face like the one in the picture preferred.

>>2863414
FreeU extension is really good actually as is Kohya hires. Been messing with SAG and PAG but imo they don't help as much.

one of my first gens, thought it came out ok but I'm still trying to figure detailing out

>>2863423
>one of my first gens
Usually people post complete shit with a comment like this but actually good pic anon

>>2863379
>It's over...
Nevermind, I managed to get them by means of rough sketching and i2i. We are all going to make it! Except Cirno. She's going to fall down and be all wet and uncomfy.
Also (trigger warning, slightly outside of /e/ !!), while I was sweating trying to hard to prompt some ice wings: https://files.catbox.moe/qy1lk3.jpg<wbr>

>You did remember to send out that email to the client, right Anon?

>>2863393
I want to give this a shot, but I don't get what you mean. By sci-fi western, how would this impact the type of clothes the girl would wear?

I like the way watercolor looks on AutismMix

>>2863395
https://mega.nz/folder/SYowiDKI#vHy<wbr>Re6FZ4lbAxGHs--E2ig

Forge Couple is cool. My pictures kept getting fucked up. and I can't use Style components with it. But felt a lot better to use than Regional prompter.

I could prompt for the most vulgar degenerate hardcore porn that I want now, tapping into my most darkest cravings with no limits....<br>Yet the thing speaking to me most is lingerie pinups with floral backgrounds.

>>2863445
>lingerie pinups with floral backgrounds
good taste
you should probably inpaint her face or use adetailer so that it looks better

>>2863446
>you should probably inpaint her face or use adetailer so that it looks better
Sure, I'll go look up adetailer

14858-3730538854-loli, pointy ears, blonde hair, (large breasts, narrow waist, wide hips_1.2), (retro artstyle_1.2), blue eyes, smile, nude, lake.png

14859-489322295-loli, pointy ears, blonde hair, (huge breasts, narrow waist, wide hips_1.2), (retro artstyle_1.2), blue eyes, smile, nude, lake,.png

>>2863451
>>2863452
looks fantastic, which model is it?

>>2863453
Anime Confetti Comrade Mix v2. There's a v3 now but haven't tried it yet.

>>2863454
thanks, I should play around with it

>>2863445
Holy shit that's based as hell.

>>2863445
I get it. I myself like Mag covers.

>>2863448
If you're new to inpainting, check out the tutorials in the faq. A lot of people shy away from inpainting, but it's not so bad if you give it a chance.

>>2863347
1.5 models came out like a machine-gun bullet spread against the wall, but nearly all of them were garbage and most of them were made purely for clout, not because the model designer had thought they made something worth using. Oftentimes you would see models being re-released with different names just so they could get the upvotes/whatever currency the platform they chose uses for training.

SDXL has had a more focused approach, on mostly one good model and people making derivatives/LORAs off that. Not to say that clout-chasers have completely stopped but there's a lower concentration of them than there were for SD1.5. Or maybe the clout-chasers are just making LORAs now, which in my opinion isn't as bad as model spammers as even crummy LORAs can still have a good use.

20240511230016-219077-breasts, 1girl, cleavage, open mouth, gloves, shirt, solo, large breasts, head out of frame, black gloves, collarbone, white bac-ad-before.png

>>2863445
Vanilla is a foundational flavor for a reason. A man who can no longer appreciate vanilla has lost their taste.

>>2863464
I think random shitty mixes already started to die out even in the late days of 1.5. In the early days everyone was just mixing shit together and nobody knew what they were doing. I think you're right that it's moved to loras. Sifting through civitai is kind of an awful experience now. Not that it was ever "good" but the garbage to good ratio is growing by the day.

>>2863464
i think the increased requirements for training ruled out all the 3rd worlders with 6gb

>>2863339
>>2863312
>>2863316
OK that was silly but thanks for the good stuff.

14861-3029152101-oppai loli, (patchouli knowledge), big eyes, huge breasts, wide hips, open mouth, nude, library, holding book, expressionless, h.png

ia _(vocaloid_), ciloranko, [tianliang duohe fangdongye], kincora, very long hai s-3660187350.png

20240514154559-score_9, score_8_up, score_7_up, source_anime BREAK 1girl, huge breasts, brown hair, brown eyes, looking at viewer, mature femal-1067a7.png

>>2863523
Oh nice Thank you. Particularly like the way the hair is done. Like caught in a strange ethereal flow.

>>2863384
I'll take the far left, number 4, the right one, center and also number 2, thanks.

>>2863430
yes, basically the clothing, accessories, equipment, the envoirement

Requesting a converstion from the classic DxD artstyle to the DxD Hero artstyle (https://civitai.com/models/387474/<wbr>highschool-dxd-hero-collection-20-c<wbr>haracters) for Rias Gremory (Left), and Asia Argento (Right) while making their boobs slightly bigger.

00500-2736526889-source_anime, score_9, score_8_up, (fyx_0.4), (kawakami rokkaku_0.8), (uno makoto_0.6)_BREAK_1girl sitting, cowboy shot, curvy,.png

Been trying to get this one out a little better for the past hour<br>I'm going to bed

>>2863575
Very good! What model? I love that style of face so much

>>2863583
autism dpo for the model,
for the style:
by kagami hirotaka, <lora:Floox_2.0:.55>, slu

>>2863596
impressive cleanup, I wish I knew your ways

>>2863597
Is not a secred kung fu technique, all data can be checked easily

https://files.catbox.moe/xhr9pq.png<wbr>

I only deleted the extra finger with photoshop

Look, IGOR! It's moving. It's alive. It's alive... It's alive, it's moving, it's alive, it's alive, it's alive, it's alive, IT'S ALIVE!

>>2863446
>you should probably inpaint her face or use adetailer so that it looks better
I made two versions, one that resembled the first style more and one with crisper outlines

>>2863659
#2
trying to find which one is better

>>2863663
>trying to find which one is better
Not this one, thats for sure, looks like a kid who found her mommy's makeup and painted herself like a clown

Seriously, the other one looks so much better I dont even know what you are wondering

14868-4287783910-score_9, score_8, (yakumo ran_1.2), blonde hair, hat, fox tail, multiple tails, oppai loli, large breasts, nude, steam, onsen, y.png

14869-3557187653-score_9, score_8, (yakumo ran_1.2), blonde hair, hat, fox tail, multiple tails, nude, steam, onsen, yellow eyes, sitting, solo,.png

Any good pixel art loras? I know there are several of them to pick from and thats the problem, I don't really want to test all of them

Any recommendation?
What Im looking for is one that can make pictures that resembles old dating sims

>>2863686
Theres a pixel extension that works better than any lora (configurable pixel size, doesn't shit up your composition). I dont have SD open but just go to the extension list and search pixel should show up.

>>2863212
Requesting Isane, Usagi, and Hinata all naked hot-tubbing together.

I'm so fucking hyped for whatever comes next. What is coming next? Is Cascade more of a sidegrade or is it bigger then 1024?

>>2863716
Those boobs don't go together with those hips. Clearly, you need to widen their hips.

>>2863716
Those boobs don't go together with those hips. Clearly, you need to flatten the boobs.

I'm going to make an install for XL stuff only. Can negative embeddings like badhandsv4 carry over to XL or is just nothing compatible?

>>2863721
I might be wrong but I am pretty sure this is a real drawn image where he inpainted massive bouncing tits

Sorry for posting non-/e/ content, but I'm just wondering:
Which is the right board for just general 1girls that are not lewd?

I occasionally post on /g/ or /b/, but /g/ doesn't seem to welcome 1girl that much and /b/ is mostly porn.

>>2863724
>/g/ doesn't seem to welcome 1girl that much
what? last I checked /sdg/ was 1girl central

>>2863724
very cute (and based)
/c/ is the right board but it doesn't have an AI general (unfortunately)
therefore the only real choice that's left is /g/ as that's where you have the sfw AI general, but as you've noticed it's complete garbage
so the cuteposters kind of have nowhere to go, dunno how acceptable it is here but some people do post fully clothed girls just fine occasionally

>>2863723
Gosh Anon you're making me blush

>>2863727
Yeah, that was precisely what I thought.
Weird that /c/ does not has a stable diffusion thread - simple, cute images are what models are best at.

>>2863716
Cascade is a different pipeline.
Instead of a model + vae, there's 2 models + vae. Basically some of the stages of the diffusion process are split between 2 models, which allows for a different way of fine-tuning. If I understand correctly, you can have a situation where you can train loras and fine tunes for the stages separately. Potentially you could have a type of base model and a bunch of loras on the first stage which gets fed into a second stage anime fine-tune. But people could potentially use the same first stage and swap out the second stage with like a realistic fine-tune.
I don't think it's higher res, it's not XXL if you will.

>>2863719
Can you make Isane hot tubbing by herself then instead

>>2863728
this can't be all nai? is it? I know the metadata is there but still...
if it is then this is the first time nai has managed to fool me
and damn
good job

>>2863686
It's pretty effective just prompting it with pony's innate styles.

https://mega.nz/folder/rYQlBQpK#guH<wbr>h-4X78olNFXy_qZhTBw

Here is a selection of ones I tried. The images in main are pony innate prompts.

>>2863731
The problem is prompting for her isn't doing anything. She is too niche so pony doesn't have any data on her. So she would need a lora which doesn't seem to exist. So it's more I can't or rather I'm not that commited to go make one.

>>2863729
it is weird, if we had a thread there it'd probably be slow which is fine and probably even preferable considering the image limit and that /c/ is generally a slow board

>>2863726
Kinda, but it's also 3dpd goth girl with fishnets central.
That's not the kind of 1girl I like.

>>2863732
>can't be all nai
People (and especially ponyfuckers) still don't realize just how fucking good nai3 is, the inpainting alone is worth the monthly fee.

>>2863736
Open a thread on /c/ and see how it goes? Maybe it'll work out. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

>>2863738
I figured the absence of an AI thread was deliberate.
Like the board decided together it wouldn't want to have one. But maybe you're right and nobody bothered making one.

>>2863739
i still think you should just post gens here even if titties arent out as long as theyre quality
unless you want to browse an AI thread at work or something

>>2863739
I think /h/ sucked in all the waifufags and perhaps a few were content with /g/ for a while, that's why no one went and made a thread on /c/

>>2863736
I make fully clothed cute girls sometimes (pic unrelated) so if you make a /c/ thread I'd post occasionally.
It could just be that the interest is extremely low for that material.

>>2863565
I prefer the older style myself.

20240515121304-score_9, 2girls, multiple girls, nude, rating_explicit, looking at another. on the left, Rias Gremory, blue eyes, very long hair-206c5e.png

20240515121347-score_9, 2girls, multiple girls, nude, rating_explicit, looking at another. on the left, Rias Gremory, blue eyes, very long hair-8ab439.png

>>2863212
there a good gallery extension for 4chan around somewhere?

>>2863722
There's not much need for schizo negatives. Most of my gens have no negatives these days.

20240514220205-1girl, female, solo, mid-body portrait, wearing a school uniform, very short skirt, cleavage, cute, very large breasts, seductiv-26fa61.png

>>2863729
ai is well suited to content that goes on /c/, but /c/ is a special place, it's a quiet library or art museum. all the rowdy discussions that naturally come with ai imagegen are not well suited to the board.

>>2863737
>exclusively oppai loli
I fucking kneel.

>>2863729
Why don't you make one? I was a /c/itizen for years. I don't think they'd be angry.

>>2863733
Frick, I need more nudie Isane man.

hatsune miku, [[[[artist_sweetonedollar]]]], artist_fizrotart, artist_so-taro, y s-3749561903.png

>>2863212
pls either remove the girl from
>>>/h/8013307 or replace her with a better artstyle (like in >>2863339 ) version of that girl.

>>2863304
Thank you! Here's a blue vaguely snake-like lady in return!

I'm using 4th tail to generate some shitty OC characters.<br>Can anybody suggest me an artist for big juicy tits and thicc thighs? I'm talking Nikke levels of thirst here.

14874-3183898468-score_9, score_8, (yakumo ran_1.2), blonde hair, hat, fox tail, multiple tails, yellow eyes, solo, flat color, big eyes, ofuda,.png

Welcome, traveler. Care to browse my wares?

For anyone using novelai, do you ever upscale/refine images with any models in stable diffusion?

I was told by /h/ to go here instead with my lewds

>>2863797
I require your strongest potions, for I am to slay the greatest dragon.

>>2863737
>still don't realize just how fucking good nai3
Well, people knows perfectly well how good nai is, is just people (and specially nai3fuckers) don't realize ZERO is still less than a monthly fee

>>2863750
You know... this ain't too bad! It could be convincing with a few tweaks.

>Set a batch of 10
>Come back and can't decide which to keep and upsize/improve
Also fuck eyes. I've tried 3 different Loras and they still keep rolling out cooked.

>>2863817
I pretty much just got your screencap, threw it into img2img with your linked lora and called it a day. It would probably need manual painting and another img2img in order to fill the "larger breasts" part of the request, which I'm not too keen on doing right now.
>>2863818
https://civitai.com/models/342364 the prompt is the first sample image

20240515210531-score_7_up,anime,1girl,solo,huge breasts, hand up,yakumo yukari,mob cap,ribbon,bow,blonde hair,long hair,mature female,red eyes,-e02eb8.png

20240515211015-score_7_up,anime,1girl,solo,huge breasts, hand up,yakumo yukari,mob cap,ribbon,bow,blonde hair,long hair,mature female,red eyes,-29d95f.png

>>2863841
Hey man, thanks a bunch. I see places it could be better, but since there's literally nothing else of her out there I'll take what I can get.

>>2863841
What's the name of the character?

>>2863852
Yea the 4 fingers is pretty obvious, I also find it hard to make clean full body suits with ponydiffusion. It seems to throw in jacket looking things or patterns

>>2863854
No idea, I just tried getting her to look like the requesters character by prompting, it's a pretty good way to practice good prompting and increase vocabulary

>>2863794
Toridamono or Kim hyung Tae or pick some artist who does destiny's child.

>>2863737
Yeah I realize how much better nai is, I could pay for it i just don't want too. And having all my prompt stuff be online makes me put on the tinfoil hat a bit even if it's mostly imagined

>>2863212
A fairy being cupped by giant hand/s/. I know Pony can't do this at all.

>>2863750
>>2863845
Here's an edit I made with improvements. I altered the colors a bit and made some fixes to some areas. I changed Rias's mouth so she's smiling, added the rest of her arm, same with Asia.

>>2863864
I had a sub to it, but since i'm a NEET i can't afford to use it for more than a month. I remember it being kinda limited in terms of exposed nipples and pussy, but maybe I'm just having a skill issue

https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/3174<wbr>372<br>this account is by far the best AI gens I've seen out there, and I know it's NAI but I'm not able to get the same sort of results

>>2863804
Why would you if you're already paying for nai. Tile upscaling and mask only inpainting doesn't cost anals

>>2863872
Anon?.. It's all there.
https://files.catbox.moe/6o4x80.jpg<wbr>

>>2863885
I'm retarded, where did you find this?

she thought the pool would be empty at this time of night.

>>2863888
That's just her usual serious face, but here's her with a happy one.

>>2863716
wait how was this done?
You used NAI API to do.. what exactly? Since the box mentions local models

>>2863867
it's not limited, just gotta add "nsfw" to prompt

>>2863901
Use the Forge Couple extension. It's like regional prompter but better.

>>2863885
no idea how you got the metadata to load from those images

Are any of you trying to go pro with AI or are devoting this much time to genning because you genuinely enjoy the hobby? I've been seeing lots of smut with patreon watermarks lately.

>>2863904
can you post a setting example? does it support higher resolutions than 1024x1024 with NAI api for no anlas?

>>2863907
yeah but dragging images off pixiv or downloading and uploading them there doesn't work

>>2863908
>are devoting this much time to genning because you genuinely enjoy the hobby?
Yes, I like prompting a lot, it's like a mini puzzle and as result I got a very cute anime girl

gotoh hitori, {{kyokucho, deadnooodles,kincora}}, blush, embarrassed, smile, dom s-2064755204.png

>>2863908
I just want to make art of characters I like

>>2863911
Very cute, good panty choice too

>>2863890
Like adetailer but for nudity?

>>2863915
Edit any image (generated or not) while retaining original's style

>>2863907
How do you get metadata from gens off Pixiv on there?
Everytime I try it says the pic contains no metadata

>>2863917
are you saving the full resolution pixiv source images?

>>2863890
I used to participate a lot on photoshop threads for undressing.
Nipples were always kind of easy, but never got pussies right

>>2863916
>>2863890
whats being used for this?

>>2863918
Interesting. I was just right clicking and downloading them, so I guess not

>>2863921
I highly doubt any of the images downloaded that way will have the metadata

>>2863922
I usually just left click on the image to expand it then right click, open image in a new window which opens the full size original upload and save as. Haven't downloaded anything off pixiv in a while so might be forgetting something, either way I think that most images you see when you open a post are downscaled by pixiv and they won't contain any metadata but expanding them gives you the original upload, might be wrong but I've downloaded images that way and they all had metadata unless the author wiped it beforehand

>>2863924
Legend, just worked for one of them. Thanks for the explanation.

>>2863212
Requesting art of Loki from danmachi.

Keep her flat, but with a sexy thicc butt. Reminder to make her fuckably smug.

Not loli, just flat chested and slender.

Asanagi-like style would be especially cool, but optional.

Outfit doesn't have to be exact, just has to look like a cute flat-chested tomboy with a ponytail and thicc butt.

>>2863212
Requesting a watercolor pinup of your favorite waifu wearing white lingerie, long gloves, and a choker with a floral background of white roses. That is all, thank you!

>>2863932
I found it quite hard to make a convincing watercolour with ponydiffusion, it was also frustrating to always have the roses turn red because I had "red hair" prompted

>>2863920
ControlNet reference only to retains style and ControlNet lineart to guide the output. I used this guide but recently switched to PonyXL-models because they now have Mistoline controlNet
https://imgur.com/a/DmpgTLV

>>2863941
>I found it quite hard to make a convincing watercolour with ponydiffusion
do you use https://civitai.com/models/264290?m<wbr>odelVersionId=450029 ? it helps a lot bringing styles (be careful, one lora, one style)

>>2863393
that's all, I hope it's what you had in mind

>>2863943
I do, but I find that the faces gets to "realistic" looking if I don't use any of the Anime styles so I tend to always use one of them.
And prompting styles is a fun challenge anyway!

>>2863941
Awww she's absolutely the cutest! Love this style

>>2863937
>>2863939
>>2863944
Ill be honest with you, the style is not up to my taste.
But I have to say you did certainly got the idea/spirit of what I had in mind perfectly, so no complains, good job and thanks

>>2863954
>the style is not up to my taste.
I noticed it's very hit or miss, people either hate it or love it

>>2863951
Yes they are anon. Those specific characters are all 13 and up. Enjoy.

>>2863942
that's a lot of work. I'd rather just inpaint in NAI without all this hassle - pretty much almost as good.

>>2863955
Its not that I hate it at all, its not my alley. I dont see anything wrong per se with the style simply not my thing.

If you want specifics its more on the "cartoon" side to me, on the faces and the proportions.
I don't think is /co/ or anything, I think is perfectly /e/ territory. Its just Im more into flat anime/moeblob styles.

I dont think there is anything wrong with that style

>>2863942
>>2863958
Is this what NAI is doing under the hood? When you set infill it activates some black magic that's leagues above standard img2img

>>2863965
no, NAI doesn't have controlnet. I dunno what they're doing that makes their inpainting so good. Just make sure you use the API to ignore size restrictions

>>2863957
I haven't seen a better method. Can you try it with the right image?

According to the text in the image, it's "erotic".<br>So that means I can post it here.

>>2863968
but reducing size makes the resulting image not look good. every time I tried it it looked worse than standard resolution (is it because of reduced context or something? im a retard btw)

>>2863979
Not if you have loli proportions in it, read the rules, anon. Lucky you jannies don't do anything to stop it.

>>2863980
I mean the NAI API extension for local UI that allows using NAI for localized inpainting at 1024x1024 without altering the image size even if the OG image is way bigger than that.
>context
no, by default NAI takes the entire image as context regardless of size, you're just allocating less pixels so its usually gonna look worse.

ComfyUI looks magical, what are some good resources to get started on that?

>>2863981
Yeah. The actual loli posted earlier is still up.
What's with that.

>>2863984
magically shit. It has no advantages over other UIs anymore, just node crap that makes using it harder

>>2863982
Doesn't localized inpainting only use the (local) mask+padding as context? Or when you say by default you mean the default whole picture inpainting

>>2863987
It's good at making the people who use it think they have more control without actually giving it to them.

In the end, we're all at the mercy of randomness. I've never seen a comfytard with his turbo autism 200 node workflow outdo what a normal generation can do. If anything, just letting the model do its thing usually gets you a better result.

>>2863984 (me)
>>2863987
>>2863989
One of the reasons I want that is because I want to automate some workflows like genning stuff on XL and img2img with 1.5, etc. Can A1111 do that?

>>2863865
Takes a bit of inpainting, but certainly doable with pony

>>2863854
Kirisaki Ayaka, from Mission: Yozakura Family. If you're looking for more of her, unless something were uploaded *today* there's nothing out there of her that I could find. Believe me, I've checked. As far as I'm aware, this gen is *the first* r34 of her.

>>2863855
I wasn't even looking at the fingers, but now that I see it, yeah. What I'd seen were a few different things that were completely unrelated to the fingers:
- The shoes. It doesn't show in the picture I provided as a reference, but she actually wears pretty form-fitting leather boots (I'm not sure how high up her leg they go, since there's not many good shots that make the distinction between catsuit and boot clear enough). Or nothing at all, because there's one scene where she's sitting at her computer desk, still fully be-catsuited but also barefoot.
- The hairpin. It's actually supposed to be a pincushion. Like, the little plush thing you stick sewing needles in.
- You already mentioned the jacket.
All of those are pretty minor things, all things considered, because I can still who it's supposed to be, visually.

The real big thing I'd have suggested as an improvement is the face, but not in the way you're probably thinking. In terms of composition the face looks fine, but it's too subdued. I'm not saying that mindbreak ahegao is her default expression, but she spends more of her debut episode than not wearing some sort of lewd, manic, or obsessed facial expression.

>>2863997
>As far as I'm aware, this gen is *the first* r34 of her.
Thank you for your service

>>2863420
>no r34 of her so far
lemme help with that

nsfw, 1girl, anime screencap, 2023, {{best quality}}, {{amazing quality}}, {{ver s-2311412037.png

While I greatly appreciate your contribution to the cause,
>>2864013
>lemme help with that
The specific wording has me dying and I don't even know why. Great stuff.

>want to shift eyes towards viewer
>nai would completely redraw them
>paste a copy of the eyes to give nai an example of how they should look while inpainting
Genius, this tech should help with refining low res eyes too.

>>2863997
Well you made me wanna do better than my first attempt.

The hair clip is probably gonna be the hardest part to get right. I did a quick gen with just a canny on your reference picture and my model can't tell at all what it is. But I'll do some more work on it tomorrow, getting late here

>>2863993
I...do not have nice memories of cute fairy images, They are alwasy followed by some really messed up shit

>>2864022
Damn, much better, thank you. I can't even blame you for having trouble with the hair clip. I mean, how the fuck do you tell a machine "See that hair clip? Yeah, that's a whole-ass pincushion" in terms of prompts it can understand? And yet your attempt at a hairclip is still identifiable as a pincushion, so you must be doing something right.

1girl, huge ass, panties, thick thighs, from side, school uniform, bent over, pi s-1076151651.png

"Fuwawa?!"<br>"The Ruffians like it! Look how many views! Bau bau!"

>>2863865
https://mega.nz/folder/rYJBgS4K#pCG<wbr>E_KCPvQSzxIdMA2O0hg

Definitely not easy.

>>2863932
no pillow:
https://files.catbox.moe/xl9c8m.png<wbr>
trying to inpaint with 1.5 was a severe mistake

Oh god I've been on a tanline kick lately

>>2863990
>automation
Dunno, check extension list

>>2863988
I meant the default whole picture mode, ye.

>>2863993 >>2864041
Well I guess I got owned.
>>2864025
There was some anon who posted (suspiciously) high quality fairies when NAIv3 came out.
Since I haven't seen something similar since then, II assume it was inpainted or image2imaged.

>>2864087
pic rel took me five seconds, just minigirl fairy pov hand, I'm sure you can make very nice stuff very easily with nai

>>2864064
>>2864063
I love tanlines thank you so much

Are these all of the not-Pony finetuned models?
artiwaifuDiffusion
AnimeConfettiTuneXL
Animagine 3.1
OlympusXL

>>2864087
To do it in pony just do very general tags to get the composition right ie: minigirl, cupped hand, giant hand, size difference, solo focus. Roll the dice a few times till a good composition shows itself

Then you just have to inpaint the fairy to get her to look the way you want. The problem comes when your detailing the fairy too much in the original promt, then your rolling the dice a lot more times to get the composition right

00018-801386031-1girl, hakurei reimu, touhou, artist_try _(lsc_), artist_starraisins, artist_greatmosu, artist_ilya kuvshinov, artist_ask _(askz.png

Well, she's gonna get wet anyway, might as well give us a show.

>>2864143
Good Lord, that's some intense perk

>>2864101
There is something unsettling about this one, I dont know why

>>2864149
what can I say, I have terrible taste, and i know neither of the OPs liked similar images lol.
it's the grin : | prompt along with the realistic artist prompt that does it in the model I use.

>>2864164
Do you use a Lora for the eyes and if so, which one?

>>2864164
It looks more like she's barring her teeth than a grin. Try a weak "[[closed mouth]]"? Unless if that's what you're after, you do you if so.

1711666297549381-3789920907-source_anime, score_9, score_8_up, (fyx_0.4), (kawakami rokkaku_0.8), (uno makoto_0.6)_BREAK_1girl, shortstack, short, curvy, hu_cleanup.png

>>2863212
Requesting an img2img of this Sakura Kasugano figure in Anime style with a cuter face.

>>2864166
akihiko lora is from /h/. the eyes mostly come from the character lora + first artist tag.
https://litter.catbox.moe/b7jrvv.pn<wbr>g

Name a prompt that always makes you laugh when it actually works somewhat

>>2864187
Well, it wants to go everywhere but in the ass

>>2864191
now that I think about it I'm pretty sure any kind of insertion that's not girls own fingers are against /e/ rules
but yes I've only gotten it when it was a combination of holding popsicle, fingering, vaginal/anal, and it just ends up there sometimes

96a36c1de4304234d5b14bc25fbbb74442ccb867658dfbcbbe5c6faea04a4119-1828029559-art by hayao miyazaki, art by amonitto, art by toridamono, a beautiful lake scene in a picturesque forest, 1girl, nude, bare tre.png

00115-388167191-1girl, solo, (raphiel shiraha ainsworth_1.2), gabriel dropout, face,_artist_greatmosu, artist_try (lsc), artist_starraisins, art.png

>>2864195
People are okay with feet here?

ce0f85ffbc1cc25ae47c9a308a550052a584e70e23fb88c320eb363a6ba791cf-3980335514-art by amonitto, 1girl, bare tree, branch, bush, day, long hair, nature, outdoors, solo, very long hair, looking at viewer, cove.png

>>2864197
who cares, I post feet wherever, whenever I feel like it
feet are just a part of a body and there isn't a part of female body that's bad

>>2864197
People only dislike it when you, personally, post it. We all hate you, specifically.

>>2864197
Why wouldn't they unless it's some /d/-tier dirty stuff

>>2864190
Something tells me this isn't what you were looking for

eaa24b10835dfce0f4c14e054a5be9fc38856444759c572a3a4259b820e08b3c-1408974083-art by amonitto, 1girl, aqua hair, barefoot, blush, breasts, feet, foot focus,green hair, head tilt, japanese clothes, long hair.png

f280dc4120f3bef77dda5493aa040ff37fde954685763449de22a24e31e6348e-4015482792-(art by amonitto_1.1), 1girl, aqua hair, barefoot, blush, breasts, wolf girl, awooo, in a bedroom, indoors, bed, (art by cutesex.png

fd4adee386509a5d3f78fa026e6a966713b6f4a4a805629549b0f034658be057-3059763836-(art by muk_1.1), 1girl, aqua hair, barefoot, blush, breasts, wolf girl, awooo, in a bedroom, indoors, bed, (art by cutesexyrobu.png

fbc8757913e851838ac554218f16a0394b3786dc5513516de8658330f622c00b-4118977643-(art by muk_1.1), 1girl, aqua hair, barefoot, blush, breasts, wolf girl, awooo, in a bedroom, indoors, bed, (art by cutesexyrobu.png

>>2864022
>>2864027
At this point I've overworked the picture (as you can tell by the background deteriorating...)
But I really wanted to get the eyes and mouth right - I think I managed decent in the end.

She's quite a cool character, I might try generating some more of her

>>2864239
So gorgeous, how do you get that style?

>>2863213
Toki was definitely a winning image, I loved her

>>2864246

In my effort to replicate Floox, I ended up mixing a bunch of artist lora and landed on this one that I really like instead

>>2864242
>(as you can tell by the background deteriorating...)
Maybe it's just because I'm blind, but I don't see that noticeable of a difference in the backgrounds. I can see the hands are more defined and slender now, and the hairpin looks a little crisper too, but... I can't tell if it's just the positioning of her hands, but her face looks just a smidge wider on her right (our left) side. Not sure it's worth over-overworking it if you think it'll negatively impact everything else, though.

>She's quite a cool character, I might try generating some more of her
I know, right? I fell in love with her design as soon as I saw it, and I would definitely be appreciative if you wanted to keep trying more gens with her. If you're not averse to migrating over to the /h/ thread I wouldn't mind seeing her in positions that aren't appropriate for /e/. If not, that's fine too.

>>2863545
Is this direction you're looking for?

>>2863545
I think this one is better than the last, let me know if this is was in the vein of what you wanted

>>2864274
this one is more in the right direction

9a5ad91baa78a62252e5117118ac0862133bf4acdfd8418b3d112bbeeccc84ed-1259127056-(art by akira toriyama_1.1), 1girl, aqua hair, barefoot, blush, breasts, rat girl, awooo, in a bedroom, indoors, bed, (art by cu.png

ffc1e90c3e8359a437ba6630e8072ddfcb6b03337b537e6cb09011a1c6401749-3038215378-(art by akira toriyama_1.1), 1girl, barefoot, blush, breasts, awooo, in a bedroom, indoors, bed, (art by cutesexyrobutts_0.1), p.png

Where do Pony and Autism based models pull their tags from?

>>2864283
danbooru, e621, rule34, some natural language training

1f369a55b60494aa45b2ceb8c30b8011984cdb0dd2c1b80f43b3a416db23eb3d-272580773-(art by amonitto_1.1), 1girl, barefoot, blush, breasts, awooo, in a bedroom, indoors, bed, (art by cutesexyrobutts_0.1), pussy,.png

>>2864283
>>2864285
p sure derpibooru is also in the list

>>2864282
>>2864288
Idk why, but green hair does it for me

>>2864262
> If you're not averse to migrating over to the /h/ thread
Fine by me

>I wouldn't mind seeing her in positions that aren't appropriate for /e/
Did you have something in mind?

3469d209b6602524ff58b22e23c7649fec4430128b5c3073a7df465b1fecfeba-655564129-(art by amonitto_1.1), 1girl, barefoot, blush, breasts, awooo, in a bedroom, indoors, bed, (art by cutesexyrobutts_0.1), pussy,.png

>>2864293
SD needs a warning like, "may expose you to fetishes you have that you don't know about yet"

e22d172476896136786e1d34af0f50b0d1a9b93d3d0825bac7692640b5586826-2895757238-(art by amonitto_1.1), 1girl, barefoot, blush, breasts, awooo, in a bedroom, indoors, bed, (art by cutesexyrobutts_0.1), pussy,.png

d38e901f63b5eb3c1e89a666bd3c1f66166c24fee7c7552048cf786cf4fe71e4-4107836223-(art by amonitto_1.1), 1girl, barefoot, blush, breasts, awooo, in a bedroom, indoors, bed, pussy, clitoris, 1girl, bangs, black.png

954cdf90d3372cd53b626f42a8330f11a6c4a149170a4a3ae497edea861cb309-1725310469-(art by amonitto_1.1), 1girl, barefoot, blush, breasts, awooo, in a bedroom, indoors, bed, pussy, clitoris, 1girl, bangs, black.png

34417-168953362-solo, blue hair, long hair, yellow eyes, blue bodysuit, bare shoulders, breasts, cleavage cutout, standing, hand on hip, floatin.png

>>2864306
Wanted to ask in the other thread. The Kagami lora you are using is something you baked from nai gens? I remember someone wanted to give you nai access for that.
Very good stuff btw, reweik model + vixon's loras is a formidable combo.

>>2864309
>>2864311
thanks, and I'm the wrong person to ask that as I'm not the anon you're speaking of, I'm pretty sure he did get to use someone's api key a little while ago

>>2864314
Ahhh. I was so happy thinking Kagami anon upgraded his gens significantly, and it's not him... Well done!

>>2864318
I'd say his gens were pretty good considering his 1070, I can't imagine sitting there waiting 80 seconds (and now he has to wait two minutes apparently) for a single non upscaled image to be finished, dunno about everyone else but I usually have to screw around with a model before I find a look I want and sdxl makes it harder since it's slower unless you've got a high end gpu, I don't think I'd be patient enough to gen with that kind of card while it's attempting to immolate itself

>>2863212
A couple of days after this whole hentai diffusion shit hit the internet I requested an image of Mami Futami wearing a wedding dress and carrying a bouquet.

This is the image generated. How well can it be generated now?

>>2864346
I mean, did the someone give you their prompt to cut to the chase?

>>2864346
>How well can it be generated now?
way way better if someone uses current models like pony or v3, I'm too busy right now, my shit is slow and I'm not subbed to nai atm, hopefully someone else can deliver

>>2864347
I don't think you need someone elses prompt for that, pretty sure there's a lora of her for pony on civitai and with v3 it's super easy

late to the delf party, all delfs should have light hair and red eyes

>>2864346
The model I'm using doesn't know her out of the box, but if there's a character lora out there, it could in principle be done nearly perfectly.

>>2864352
White is definitely the correct hair color.

>>2863393
my lazy attempt
I might try more later

OP here. 11 images to go. Thread went a little faster than expected but I have highlights and I'm ready to take us to the next thread.

{{kyokucho, artist_deadnooodles, kincora}}, purple hair, twintails, purple eyes, s-223832529.png

If you're out there, lend me your power one more time.

Ahh yeah more unpolished gens to throw away

ciloranko, [tianliang duohe fangdongye], kincora, medium breasts, bikini armor, s-3029510363.png

_ange katrina, {{kyokucho, deadnooodles, kincora}}, small breasts, [wide hips], s-2649528990.png

>>2864358
What is a character lora? I've heard the term but my computer can't run this shit so the best I can do is make requests. I am fascinated by how this works though.

scathach (fate), {{kyokucho, gin00, kincora}}, naughty face, breasts, sports bra s-738776262.png

{{{vanguard _(azur lane_)}}}, blush, blindfold, small breasts, nipples, blonde h s-1950277440.png

idolmaster shiny colors, osaki amana, medium breasts, blush, embarrassed, grey s s-4254040579.png

>>2864372
Alright so basically you train a small model on a bunch of images of the character. It can then be used as an addon, if you will, to the main model that you're using. It allows for generation of the character's details more perfectly than the model can do out of the box.
Loras are also used for things like artist styles. It allows you to adapt to pretty much whatever you want.

>>2864372
a single lora is a single file, you can think of it as a small add-on to the model that lets you generate a specific thing, could be a concept (a sex position, some kind of action, gesture etc), could be an artists or any kind of style or any kind of character, people gather images relating to what they want the lora to do and use them to train it, you then put it into the folder where it belongs and use it when you run the whole thing

New thread. And perfect timing. The only thread we bumped off page 10 was a previous /edg/.
>>2864380
>>2864380
>>2864380

>>2864294
>Did you have something in mind?
Anything penetrative that she can ride. Man or toy, as long as she's still making a lewd or crazy face while doing so. I guess fellatio might also be nice, but it'd be harder to make the right faces while doing so. I'll make a proper request in the /h/ thread once I'm done here.

I'd suggest something more /e/-appropriate as long as I'm here, but we're at image limit, so I'll see you next thread.


Saki: Tanoshii

Lewds of characters from the Saki mahjong series.

>>2657107
>>2657108
Is there an in-story reason as of why she deresses like that?

>>2657199
Because the weather was hot, and going butt naked for some reason was more embarassing than whatever the heck that outfit is.

Thread is mostly Hajime.

Fucking hell I ain't complaining.

>>2657107
I thought lolicon wasn't alowed on /e/

>>2657199
Her father is a professional magician, and it's her performing outfit as his assistant.
I guess it's a distraction for his sleight of hand. Also advertising, since he wasn't very successful and sold Hajime to Touka.

🐥ゆずゆず⭐ - 98416109 #2 - はや慕🌟JC3ver （抱き枕カバー風）.jpg

>>2697743
It's Hayaris birthday, no new lewds at pixiv.

>>2704078
How much for a lifetime supply of warm milk served straight from the source?

Awai with breasts in the anime art style feels strange.

>>2712563
holy fuck what is this anatomy

2nd Mahjong Souls x Saki collab is in progress

nodoka_瀬戸六輝 - 104110231 - ウサギのどっち_02.png

未定 - 104384375 - 【skeb】バニーのどっち(咲-saki-).jpg

LastTour - 107007925 #1 - Ako Atarashi - 咲-Saki-.png

>>2784835
Ugh. They just copypasted Sakis head on something that doesn't even look like it belongs in the series. Better off not posting this sort of junk, just let the thread fall off.

>>2790755
No nude filter of this yet? Kinda surprising.

>>2789589
Where did you get this, I can't find this version anywhere

>>2790800
Volume 21 release. The older version is from the magazine.

>>2790843
Are these your own screenshots of a digital copy? I don't supposed they're very easily findable online, huh

>>2790848
Oh, right, thanks. Are there any more examples of uncensored stuff exclusive to the volume releases? I love this stuff, the art is already raunchy enough, but this takes it up a level.

>>2790850
I haven't compared, I only noticed those because I had the old versions saved.

>>2806715
I'm surprised someone managed to wrangle this out of an image generator.

AI画像館 - 111896542 #2 - 【9月21日】国広一生誕祭.png

>this
>unapproved by danbooru
Welp. 20 years, though.

we missed subaras birthday, so here's something about as old as she is.

>>2657118
>>2657117
>>2657116
>>2657110

What are the origin of these? They look like Ritz Kobayashi but I haven't seen them anywhere else. If it's a fan edit it's top tier

>>2814601
Of course they are edits, most likely inpainted.

>>2815609
Can you not post that guys "art", please?

>>2816777
Would be cool if someone would update this artists posts at kemono or e-h.

>>2789589
>water droplet letting you clearly see the outlines of her pussy
probably my favorite ecchi trope to sneak past censors

>>2820701
I know, I know. It works for me though.

>>2814685
A butthole like a pencil sharpener

>>2830498
Awai before finals > Awai during finals
Ritz better deflate her after she goes supernova.

Thread falling off even on /e/, truly tanoshii is toki.

>>2657263
Have you looked at a lot of threads? It's becoming increasingly harder to use /e/ to jerk off and not feel weird about it afterwards because creepy pedos keep posting pictures of anime kids they want to diddle.

>>2850796
You lost your morality long ago, buddy, don't kid yourself

Bless Ritz for this new wave of Nodoka fanarts.

>>2864313
>>2864315
Ritz somehow manages to make it look okay.
Those not so much.

>>2864317
Then I guess this thread can continue being dead without any content.