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| Good morning everyone. Welcome back to English |
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| Pottery at the Islamic University of Gaza occupied |
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| Palestine. |
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| Today we move from the Victorian Age to the early |
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| 20th century pottery. |
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| Much of the poetry written in this, the first 20 |
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| years, 30 years of the 20th century can be |
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| classified as war poetry or pre-war, post-war, et |
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| cetera. We have this poem today by an English |
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| -British poet, Robert Brooke. The name of the poem |
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| is The Soldier. Before I talk about that, before I |
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| talk about soldiers and war and dying for one's |
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| country, I want to ask you this question, this |
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| first question. I'll give you one minute to think |
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| about it and tell me what you think, what you have |
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| in mind. We're Palestinians, we've been under |
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| Israeli occupation for over seven decades. In the |
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| past 10 years alone, Israel has waged huge |
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| onslaughts, committed many massacres, three major |
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| wars against Palestinians in Gaza, killed at least |
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| 5,000 Palestinians, including at least 2,000 kids, |
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| women and elderly. You yourselves, you were born |
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| in war, raised in war, and every couple of months |
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| you come under heavy Israeli bombardment. That's |
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| war, that's living war, under war, being occupied |
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| and oppressed. So what feelings do you have when |
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| Gaza comes under Israeli aggression or under |
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| Israeli war, personally? Can you tell? Think about |
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| it. Like honestly, how do you have a particular |
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| set of feelings? Do you feel this way? Do you have |
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| conflicted feelings? What does it mean to you to |
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| be living under war? Because this kind of poetry |
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| is very related to our lives. |
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| Yeah? |
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| Take a minute, think. How did you feel two weeks |
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| ago when Israel waged its latest attack? |
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| How did you feel when Palestinians' |
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| kids, whole families were bombarded, were killed |
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| as they slept? And also how... What do you feel or |
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| how do you feel usually when Palestinians respond |
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| to this kind of terror? When Palestinian |
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| resistance tries to deter Israeli aggression? |
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| Does it make a difference? |
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| Okay, I'm just giving you a moment to think. I'm |
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| sure you already have so many things to say Okay |
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| When when were most of you born? When? Nineteen |
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| nine. So you lived through the second intifada |
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| Still |
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| yeah, you were born during the intifada Okay |
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| Actually when we have Israeli escalation I feel |
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| like I don't want to live this again because in |
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| the last war in 2014 my home damaged partially and |
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| I remember that night how we escaped from our home |
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| Even without wearing |
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| the right clothes or like that. So this is |
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| personal. War is not some pie in the sky, some |
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| distant experience people talk about, you read |
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| about, you watch on TV and movies. It's something |
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| personal. What else? Thank you. Please. Sure, I |
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| feel very sorrow and sad and I search for the time |
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| to put the sense for all the senseless and |
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| restricted the word occupations in all |
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| dictionaries. So I think this is a chance for me |
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| to write more vertically to respect and erase all |
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| the senseless. So there's again the feeling of |
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| sadness, mainly sadness. Sadness, you're sad, |
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| you're like down. |
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| So you decide to do something about it? So what |
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| kind |
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| of feelings do you experience? What kind of |
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| feelings? Yes, I do feel sad for people, but I try |
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| as much as possible to not do this, and this is so |
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| bad. But I try to not let it affect my own spirit. |
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| So you feel detached? Yes. Okay, detached. Please. |
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| Maybe you, in the worst, especially you, you're |
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| afraid not to avoid yourself, but your kids, your |
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| friends, your dearest one, your grandma, your |
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| father. So feelings of fear. So you're waiting, |
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| you are waiting for |
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| You're anticipating, every moment you're |
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| anticipating the death of somebody you love around |
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| you. The feeling that death is hovering around, |
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| that at any time you can be just taken away |
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| prematurely and untimely. Please. |
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| So that's personal more than anything else. Does |
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| it get out of this? What if you're certain, nobody |
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| is certain here, anybody can die at any moment, |
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| and that's what being Palestinian is in the, not |
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| in the past decade, just the past seven decades. |
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| So is it, if you're certain that nobody you love |
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| is going to die, is that going to make a |
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| difference? The sad thing for me is that |
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| everything I wrote, a short story or a poem, is |
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| about wars and Palestinians. So this is, again, |
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| some kind of a reaction to war, but at the same |
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| time, how war is dominating us. Predominantly, |
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| Palestinian writings are war literature. I feel |
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| unjustified, unfair. You feel second? unjustified |
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| and unheard and I feel how life could be |
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| disordered as Israelis are asked, are questioned |
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| if they killed kids or not. And they are from the |
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| first place shouldn't be here. Okay, so the |
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| feelings of injustice, the feeling of being left |
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| alone, being left probably to die. There is a war |
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| outside and I have a war inside myself. I keep |
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| questioning how people can give up their humanity. |
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| Oh yeah, that's a very good feeling, yeah. So like |
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| you're like, how? Why? Why would you bomb us? Why |
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| would you in the first place occupy us? Why would |
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| you bombard like this heavily crowded area and |
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| kill people and kids and mothers and fathers as |
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| they slept. Not that any other kind of bombardment |
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| is justified. When you say this, we have to be |
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| careful when you're saying this. It shouldn't mean |
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| by any way that we justify or we understand the |
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| fact that Israel also kills resistance fighters. |
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| Still, this is an occupying power. Please. It |
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| feels like I'm stuck in a moment of time that |
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| isn't developed for me like I cancel all my plans |
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| obviously and I don't know when my life will be |
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| resumed I keep like scrolling down news and |
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| reading news and like whenever there is a bombing |
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| we just go inside the window and try to navigate |
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| where this is and hope our family or friends lives |
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| there and just keep checking calling them and like |
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| making sure that they're fine I also like wrote a |
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| story about about where the hospital was |
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| threatened to be bombed and my father father was |
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| there there was a bombing and we looked at it was |
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| like coming from that direction coming from that |
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| direction and we kept calling him but like he |
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| wasn't answering and people were calling us asking |
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| if we talked to him it just really been a moment |
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| of This moment of futility, if you want to say |
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| like meaninglessness, it's like what does it mean |
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| to be alive? It's life. That's why you stop |
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| everything. If you're watching a TV show, you |
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| stop. If you're reading a book, you stop. If |
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| you're doing like mostly, it doesn't mean you have |
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| to do this, but some people might Because they |
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| want to distract and detach themselves from the |
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| news, from the surroundings, they could do |
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| something like writing, like watching more TV, |
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| binging on some TV show you've missed, or reading |
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| a book or something, or at least, I don't know, |
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| lying there asleep. Not listening to the news. |
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| Besides feeling terrified and sad, I started |
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| feeling pity to ourselves as Gazans and myself |
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| personally because we have the minimum stage of |
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| living. On Mars we only want to not to die and |
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| this is like something taken for granted for other |
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| people just to be safe. So we didn't live |
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| anything, the only thing we want is just not to |
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| die and this is like we haven't experienced |
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| anything in life so far. So what is considered to |
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| be basic human rights? the right to live in peace, |
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| the right to decent human rights, not political |
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| rights, although political rights are basically |
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| human rights. Life here has become a privilege. |
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| Life has become a luxury we cannot afford. We |
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| don't afford. We're living under siege. We've been |
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| besieged for over 10 years, 12 years. Actually, |
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| we've been besieged over seven decades. The very |
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| existence of the Israeli occupation means that we |
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| are suffocating. We don't do what we want to do. |
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| We don't marry the people we want to marry. We |
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| don't build the house we want to build. We don't |
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| get the job. We don't travel when we want. We |
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| don't go to the country we want. Because there |
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| will always be Israeli restrictions imposed on us, |
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| controlling our every aspect. Sometimes you don't |
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| eat the food you like or the fruit you like. And |
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| sometimes it's not even political. And that's why |
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| you keep asking these questions. And many people |
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| asked these questions in their writings. Please |
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| read Mourid El Barghouti's fascinating |
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| autobiography, I Saw Ramallah, I Read Ramallah, in |
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| Arabic, but it's also superbly fascinating in |
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| English. Also read, what's her name? Suad Al |
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| Amiri, Suad Amiri's Sharona, My Mother and Love. |
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| It's very funny, very comic, very ironic book. In |
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| another Palestinian writer, sometimes Tamim's |
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| poetry does this, how they expose the fact that |
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| the occupation is arbitrary. Like sometimes we |
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| think, and I know many people who do this, like if |
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| Israel bombs some area here or there, you just ask |
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| the question, okay, there must be something that |
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| made Israel bomb this particular area or this |
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| particular house. But most often Israel will come |
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| out and like, oops, we made a mistake. Oops, we |
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| killed these 50 people by mistake. We didn't mean |
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| to kill these. We didn't know that Israel knows |
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| everything with technology and everything here. |
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| That could be something arbitrary in the sense |
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| that there could be no reason. Read this movement |
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| in Israel called Breaking the Silence. They had |
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| their soldiers, consisting of soldiers, Israeli |
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| soldiers, who participated, who killed people, who |
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| were part of the occupation, and horrifying |
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| testimonies. about how they would just for fun |
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| would kill this, kill that, would shoot somebody. |
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| One of the guys was like, we killed somebody |
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| because he was walking suspiciously. And for more |
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| than a year I was haunted by how I walked. Because |
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| what does it mean to walk suspiciously? Honestly, |
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| what does it mean? Sometimes they would be |
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| counting the cars, for example, okay, one car, two |
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| cars, you hit the third car. Sometimes they would |
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| be looking at a particular house and not like the |
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| paint job or not like something and they would |
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| bomb the hell out of it just because it's ugly. |
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| Yeah, let's do this. And we've seen videos leaked |
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| Cheering for soldiers, snipers, cheering for |
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| simply killing Palestinians or getting them |
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| somewhere. So why do Israelis do this occupation? |
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| And it's brutal thing. It dehumanizes people, but |
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| also it could be because they're lost. They lost |
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| some things. I'm sure an Israeli soldier, because |
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| you know, Messi last night won the Ballon d'Or, |
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| you know, the biggest individual prize for |
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| football. Maybe a Ronaldo fan, an Israeli Ronaldo |
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| fan would be angry this morning and turn a |
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| Palestinian's life into hell. Maybe they would be |
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| losing a match. Maybe they would be, somebody |
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| would be angry with his mother, or girlfriend, or |
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| kids, or boss. And this anger will be, you know, |
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| in a way, the Palestinians would be paying for, |
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| exactly like Palestinians have been paying for |
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| European sins, the Holocaust, for decades and |
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| decades. My question here, okay thank you very |
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| much for this, I'm sorry if I'm bringing these |
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| memories back, but remember it's always good to |
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| write, it's always good to talk, to release But |
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| again, sometimes Palestinian resistance, and |
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| that's like, no matter what happens, there's |
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| always those valiant Palestinian freedom fighters |
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| who are the hope, not only for Palestinians, but |
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| for all oppressed people around the world. |
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| Sometimes they manage to react, at least react to |
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| this kind of terror. How does that make you feel, |
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| honestly? If you don't want to say it's okay, it's |
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| up to you. Are you still angry? Do you want them |
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| to stop? Do you feel happy? Do you feel proud? Do |
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| you feel like at least there's somebody who's |
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| doing something about this? We know Israel is a |
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| million times more powerful than us. |
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| But resistance is in the nature of things. Look at |
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| the cat. What a cat does when somebody takes its |
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| kitten. Or even... Right? Please. I will keep |
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| feeling angry, of course, because of the feeling |
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| of inequality along the war. You know, let's think |
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| about it. How many Israelis have been killed |
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| through the three wars? And we still, according to |
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| the whole world, we are still the terrorist party, |
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| and we are terrorists, and we should be killed. |
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| And they don't face the fact that we are the ones |
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| who are being killed, not them. And actually, they |
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| have many protection systems. So we're not equal |
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| at all. Even if the war is sent by us, nothing |
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| happens. We're still besieged. We still can't |
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| travel. We still can't speak freely. They are |
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| controlling not our lives only. They are |
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| controlling our death as well. Yeah, when we die. |
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| OK. I can go back to my question about Palestinian |
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| resistance reacting to Israeli terror. Okay, I |
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| think that it's all, it depends on the group |
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| you're in, but I just want to comment on something |
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| that's changed. Like, it's all about the media and |
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| how to promote your own case, because looking back |
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| to like the last couple of days when we had |
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| Gallego from work, The word went crazy on a |
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| picture that they posted on a child who could not |
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| celebrate his birthday properly because he was so |
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| afraid because of the bomb. At the same time, we |
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| have the same story, but in a very more tragical |
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| way, which a girl lost her two parents on her |
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| birthday. But they knew how to promote their case. |
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| They knew how to publish this or how to make the |
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| whole |
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| Okay, thank you very much. That's a very good |
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| point. Yes, please. Anyone of you, yeah. I feel |
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| proud when we resist and we respond. Although, |
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| like, we all deep down know that we are not as |
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| strong as they are, but at least we are trying to |
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| defend ourselves. And in fact, I think this is |
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| shared by a lot of people because I see in social |
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| media whenever we respond, other people will be |
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| cheering up for the resistance. And I think, yeah, |
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| I'm definitely super proud. Okay, a feeling of |
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| pride, a feeling of |
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| Again, some justice. There is some justice there. |
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| There are people who, despite everything, who are |
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| willing to do something about it. Despite the |
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| inequality, despite everything else, despite the, |
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| you know, we having nothing, no weapons, and |
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| Israel having everything and support of the world. |
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| Because of our resistance, I feel proud to have |
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| this resistance. Because it's in my feeling that |
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| we keep defencing our land and our people. This is |
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| something. And there is something I want to |
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| mention. I agree with Noha. even if there is no |
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| equal between something, they have panic attack, |
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| people have, |
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| yeah, feeling panic attack, but here we have true |
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| injures and true murders here in Gaza. So where's |
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| the, there's no equal even in the injured side. |
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| And according to the story, they have maybe they |
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| have stronger media to marketing their Australian |
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| story. That's why it makes it more obligatory on |
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| you, especially you studying English, to get our |
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| message out there. First of all, just at least to |
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| speak. Because speaking and writing are an act of |
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| resistance. Living here is an act of resistance. |
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| Sometimes eating in particular is an act of |
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| resistance. What I'm saying is that We need to do |
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| something about it, to communicate with ourselves, |
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| to reconcile with ourselves and also to get our |
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| message out there to the world because this is our |
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| job, right? If the people and thanks to social |
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| media, some of you mentioned social media, thanks |
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| to social media we have more and more people |
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| around the world supporting Palestinian cause |
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| because many people have started to write back to |
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| show, to expose Israeli war crimes and aggression |
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| against Palestinians. I'll go to the poem. I know, |
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| I want you to think of this when you go home. |
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| Probably you can write a poem or something about |
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| it. So the soldier, Robert Brooke, if I should |
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| die, think only this of me. that there's some |
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| corner of a foreign field that is forever England. |
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| There shall be in that rich earth a richer dust |
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| concealed, a dust whom England bore shaped. Made |
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| aware, gave once her flowers to love, her ways to |
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| roam Her body of England's breathing English air |
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| Washed by the rivers blessed by the sons of home |
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| And think This heart all evil shed away A pulse in |
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| the eternal mind no less Gives somewhere back the |
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| thoughts by England given Her sights and sounds, |
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| dreams happy as her day And laughter learnt of |
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| friends and gentleness In the hearts at peace |
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| under an English heaven |
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| Do you think this man likes war? Is he pro-war or |
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| anti-war? |
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| Yeah? What do you think? Go to the poem in your |
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| book, what page is it? |
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| So is this man saying war is good, let's fight or |
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| stop the war? It's horrible, it's grim. It's |
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| tragic. |
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| Before going back to this question, how many times |
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| is England or is England like English mentioned |
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| here? Can you count? |
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| How many times do we have England English? One, |
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| two, three, four, five. |
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| That's a lot of England and English. England, |
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| English, England, English. What could that |
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| possibly indicate? What does it tell in the poem? |
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| Pride. |
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| Pride being English? England, English, England, |
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| English. Is it mentioned in positive or negative |
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| circumstances, situations, context? |
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| Where is negative? Where are the negative words? |
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| English heaven is it bad? Probably for some people |
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| even English heaven is still hell but here at |
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| least this is positive English heaven you know and |
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| I like how this is like English heaven remember |
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| this was written around 1914 English empire still |
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| people you know felt pride being English just |
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| being English merely being English |
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| Breathing English air. |
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| Washed by the rivers. How does the poet deal with |
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| England? What does he do to England in a poem? |
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| Thank you very much. Listen, if you talk about |
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| your country, your car, your ship even, or your |
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| boat, you can still personify them, your cat, your |
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| dog, your parrot, your lion pet if you have one. |
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| You can still personify this thing. So we talk |
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| Palestine is proud of her children. You could say |
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| that. But here this is an act of, an extended act |
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| of personification. He's talking about England as, |
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| as what? As a human being? What kind of human |
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| being? Particularly, in particular. |
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| Yeah? Yeah? A man? Haram aliki. |
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| Yeah? |
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| Where does the poet personify England? And? |
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| And? And? Don't repeat the things you already |
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| said, so we can see other things. |
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| Okay, |
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| so what does that indicate? It's a woman. |
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| What kind of a woman? Mother. He's personifying |
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| England. |
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| not only just as female. Female could mean just |
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| being female, physically female. You could use the |
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| term female, by the way, for animals. That's why |
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| some feminists don't like the word female. Like |
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| what female? I'm a cat? Am I a cat? So like a |
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| 396 |
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| woman, but this is no ordinary woman. This is a |
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| mother, a grandmother. Because the fact that dust |
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| 398 |
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| whom England bore, bores the past of Bear, we |
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| 399 |
| 00:26:02,020 --> 00:26:06,100 |
| usually use the passive, born. I was born. My mom |
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| 400 |
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| bore me. This is the physical bearing, you know, |
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| 401 |
| 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,700 |
| carrying, lifting. But also it could mean the fact |
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| 00:26:11,700 --> 00:26:15,380 |
| that England here is the woman who in her belly |
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| carried this for nine months and then. And look at |
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| 404 |
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| hair, hair, hair. Remember, I told you all the |
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| time, if there are pronouns in the text, you need |
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| to trace them to what they refer to. It's |
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| significant to understand. So there's this many |
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| 408 |
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| repetitions of England and there are these |
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| 409 |
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| positive references of England. England breathing |
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| 410 |
| 00:26:39,780 --> 00:26:43,360 |
| England's air, right? English air. And also |
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| England's heaven. And how England here? Flowers. |
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| 412 |
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| Yeah. Are these negative or positive words? |
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| 413 |
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| Positive. If you want to take thus, this, only |
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| 414 |
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| this, if I die, I as the negative word, the poem |
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| 415 |
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| is predominantly positive and celebratory |
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| 416 |
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| even. There is a festive mood here. If, look at |
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| 417 |
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| this if, not when, not if I die or when I die |
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| 418 |
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| even, there's when I die certain, like when |
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| 00:27:22,050 |
| Shakespeare said, when in my eternal lines, right? |
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| 420 |
| 00:27:25,850 |
| If I die, if I should die, if you should see Ali, |
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| 421 |
| 00:27:31,630 |
| this is more polite but also If I should die, |
|
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| 422 |
| 00:27:35,320 |
| probably he's distancing himself from death here. |
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| 423 |
| 00:27:37,980 --> 00:27:41,420 |
| The poem truly begins with I. We think this is a |
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| 424 |
| 00:27:41,420 --> 00:27:43,400 |
| personal poem about a personal experience like you |
| |
| 425 |
| 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,260 |
| just mentioned here. But as we go into the poem, |
| |
| 426 |
| 00:27:46,540 --> 00:27:49,080 |
| this turns into an impersonal poem where the poet |
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| 427 |
| 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,460 |
| is distancing himself from the act of dying. Not |
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| 428 |
| 00:27:52,460 --> 00:27:55,240 |
| imagining it, like just imagining of something. If |
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| 429 |
| 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,340 |
| I should die, think only this of me. And the |
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| 430 |
| 00:27:58,340 --> 00:28:01,100 |
| evidence here is in the fact that we don't have |
|
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| 431 |
| 00:28:01,100 |
| any I or me in the rest of the poem. So because |
|
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| 432 |
| 00:28:05,920 |
| he, it's all about England, it's all about |
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| 433 |
| 00:28:08,000 |
| boasting and bragging about that there is some |
|
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| 434 |
| 00:28:13,520 |
| corner of a foreign field that is forever England. |
|
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| 435 |
| 00:28:19,720 |
| For how? You know, colonial mentality? Yeah. But |
|
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| 436 |
| 00:28:24,240 |
| if I die somewhere, there is actually a symmetry, |
|
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| 437 |
| 00:28:27,380 |
| I guess one or two for the English soldiers who |
|
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| 438 |
| 00:28:30,320 |
| died during the First World War, the Great War. |
|
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| 439 |
| 00:28:33,110 |
| One, not two? So there's one huge cemetery in Gaza |
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| 440 |
| 00:28:36,550 --> 00:28:39,590 |
| for English soldiers who were killed in occupied |
| |
| 441 |
| 00:28:39,590 --> 00:28:46,010 |
| Palestine. So this foreign field becomes what? |
| |
| 442 |
| 00:28:46,730 --> 00:28:53,850 |
| Forever England. Because this area, this plot of |
| |
| 443 |
| 00:28:53,850 --> 00:29:00,250 |
| earth contains the remains of an Englishman. Does |
| |
| 444 |
| 00:29:00,250 --> 00:29:04,530 |
| that make him sad? Does that mean he is telling |
| |
| 445 |
| 00:29:04,530 --> 00:29:06,490 |
| people, don't go to die because if you die, you're |
| |
| 446 |
| 00:29:06,490 --> 00:29:07,790 |
| going to die alone, |
| |
| 447 |
| 00:29:10,110 --> 00:29:15,150 |
| probably hungry, angry, sad, isolated, detached, |
| |
| 448 |
| 00:29:15,790 --> 00:29:19,110 |
| or is he saying something else? That is forever |
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| 449 |
| 00:29:19,110 --> 00:29:23,790 |
| England. There, this corner of a foreign field, |
| |
| 450 |
| 00:29:24,450 --> 00:29:27,790 |
| there shall be in that rich earth, it's rich |
|
|
| 451 |
| 00:29:27,790 |
| because this person died there. But it's going to |
| |
| 452 |
| 00:29:31,990 --> 00:29:35,370 |
| get richer because of the body again. So this |
| |
| 453 |
| 00:29:35,370 --> 00:29:41,510 |
| foreign field, this foreign piece of land that |
| |
| 454 |
| 00:29:41,510 --> 00:29:45,110 |
| witnessed the death of those British or English |
| |
| 455 |
| 00:29:45,110 --> 00:29:50,890 |
| soldiers, it's rich. This earth is rich. What |
|
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| 456 |
| 00:29:50,890 |
| makes it richer? The bodies, the remains. And |
|
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| 457 |
| 00:29:57,100 |
| that's again adding to this pride here. We make a |
| |
| 458 |
| 00:30:00,780 --> 00:30:02,600 |
| difference. English people, British people, they |
| |
| 459 |
| 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,440 |
| make a difference. Wherever they go, they bring |
| |
| 460 |
| 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:10,400 |
| richness there. A richer dust concealed. Dust, |
| |
| 461 |
| 00:30:10,700 --> 00:30:16,060 |
| it's the body. But because originally. Now a dust, |
|
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| 462 |
| 00:30:16,400 |
| what is the dust here? What does it refer to? The |
|
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| 463 |
| 00:30:19,000 |
| soldiers. Okay. Whom England bore. Shaped, made |
|
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| 464 |
| 00:30:27,700 |
| aware. Look at England being the mother, being the |
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| 465 |
| 00:30:31,040 |
| educator, being the teacher, being the school, |
|
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| 466 |
| 00:30:33,600 |
| being the university. Gave her flowers to love. |
|
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| 467 |
| 00:30:39,000 |
| Gave once her flowers everything your country gave |
|
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| 468 |
| 00:30:42,380 |
| you. Everything you have your country gave you. |
|
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| 469 |
| 00:30:45,560 |
| Also her ways to roam, to move freely when you |
|
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| 470 |
| 00:30:49,160 |
| were young or a kid. Body of England's. Breathing |
| |
| 471 |
| 00:30:55,960 --> 00:31:00,360 |
| English air Everybody is the embodiment of England |
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| 472 |
| 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:08,020 |
| herself or itself Breathing English air Washed |
| |
| 473 |
| 00:31:08,020 --> 00:31:13,120 |
| by the rivers Blessed by the suns of home |
| |
| 474 |
| 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:18,940 |
| Everything you have, your country gave you This is |
| |
| 475 |
| 00:31:18,940 --> 00:31:22,940 |
| more or less a beautiful image in Ahmed's talking |
|
|
| 476 |
| 00:31:22,940 |
| about war and dying Everything you have is not |
|
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| 477 |
| 00:31:26,320 |
| yours. It's your country. You don't belong to you. |
|
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| 478 |
| 00:31:31,260 |
| The suns that warmed you, English suns, the air |
|
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| 479 |
| 00:31:35,520 |
| you breathe, English air, the ways you roam were |
|
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| 480 |
| 00:31:42,100 |
| given to you by your country. And then, and think, |
|
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| 481 |
| 00:31:48,700 |
| this is again the poet, if I should die, think |
|
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| 482 |
| 00:31:50,520 |
| only this of me. And think this heart all evil hid |
|
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| 483 |
| 00:31:56,020 |
| away. That's where again, interesting. I'll ask |
|
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| 484 |
| 00:31:59,520 |
| you this question to think of when you go home. |
|
|
| 485 |
| 00:32:01,600 |
| Because as Palestinians, we've been paying the |
| |
| 486 |
| 00:32:04,420 --> 00:32:09,040 |
| heavy, probably some of the heaviest price due to |
| |
| 487 |
| 00:32:11,930 --> 00:32:15,370 |
| English horrible, horrible powerful declaration |
| |
| 488 |
| 00:32:15,370 --> 00:32:20,990 |
| that gave Palestine to Zionists, right? So this |
| |
| 489 |
| 00:32:20,990 --> 00:32:23,010 |
| English heart, the English people, the English |
| |
| 490 |
| 00:32:23,010 --> 00:32:27,070 |
| soldiers have no evil at all in this. Like, you |
| |
| 491 |
| 00:32:27,070 --> 00:32:31,030 |
| know, a snake sheds its skin every, but this is |
| |
| 492 |
| 00:32:31,030 --> 00:32:35,650 |
| like more, this is spiritual. So all the evils, |
| |
| 493 |
| 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:41,960 |
| have been shed away. There is no evil, more or |
| |
| 494 |
| 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:45,600 |
| less. Tell that to Palestinians. A pulse in the |
| |
| 495 |
| 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:50,400 |
| eternal mind, no less, gives somewhere back the |
| |
| 496 |
| 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:55,360 |
| thoughts by England given. Here again, continuing |
| |
| 497 |
| 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,760 |
| to personify England, this beautiful image. Here |
| |
| 498 |
| 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:03,900 |
| sights and sounds. Dreams happy as her day. So |
| |
| 499 |
| 00:33:03,900 --> 00:33:10,470 |
| this death is Not a nightmare, it's a dream. An |
|
|
| 500 |
| 00:33:10,470 |
| ordinary dream, it's a happy dream. A dream of |
| |
| 501 |
| 00:33:13,190 --> 00:33:16,750 |
| England probably dominating again, winning the |
| |
| 502 |
| 00:33:16,750 --> 00:33:21,070 |
| war, being victorious. And also bringing happiness |
| |
| 503 |
| 00:33:21,070 --> 00:33:24,010 |
| and laughter to this poem. For many it could |
| |
| 504 |
| 00:33:24,010 --> 00:33:26,530 |
| sound, nobody said, when there is war, I'm |
|
|
| 505 |
| 00:33:26,530 |
| laughing, yeah? Probably you said, I'm proud |
| |
| 506 |
| 00:33:29,390 --> 00:33:32,210 |
| because there's this Palestinian reaction to |
|
|
| 507 |
| 00:33:32,210 |
| resistance, right? But being happy, yes. It's war, |
| |
| 508 |
| 00:33:38,030 --> 00:33:44,730 |
| yes. That's the moment I've been waiting for. And |
| |
| 509 |
| 00:33:44,730 --> 00:33:49,510 |
| laughter, learnt of friends and gentleness, in |
| |
| 510 |
| 00:33:49,510 --> 00:33:55,150 |
| hearts at peace. I'll be in hearts at peace, but |
|
|
| 511 |
| 00:33:55,150 |
| most significantly under an English heaven. That's |
| |
| 512 |
| 00:34:00,950 --> 00:34:05,460 |
| a hardcore pro-war poem here. This man is saying, |
| |
| 513 |
| 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:09,220 |
| let's go die for our country. This man is saying, |
|
|
| 514 |
| 00:34:09,280 |
| we don't own ourselves. This man is saying, if the |
| |
| 515 |
| 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:20,480 |
| country calls, we should be in the front. And |
| |
| 516 |
| 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:24,900 |
| indeed, this man joined the British army. He was |
| |
| 517 |
| 00:34:24,900 --> 00:34:29,320 |
| in the navy. We'll see what difference that makes. |
|
|
| 518 |
| 00:34:29,400 |
| He wasn't in the war itself, in the fighting, |
| |
| 519 |
| 00:34:32,340 --> 00:34:34,280 |
| shooting. He was in the Navy. In the Navy, you're |
|
|
| 520 |
| 00:34:34,280 |
| safe somewhere, relatively safe at sea somewhere. |
|
|
| 521 |
| 00:34:39,580 |
| And he wrote this poem in the beginning months of |
|
|
| 522 |
| 00:34:43,460 |
| the Great War, 1914. So some people think that |
|
|
| 523 |
| 00:34:49,220 |
| because he was far away from the grim reality of |
|
|
| 524 |
| 00:34:51,820 |
| war, the horrible, horrible, scenes and realities |
|
|
| 525 |
| 00:34:55,530 |
| of the war. He was kind of romanticizing war, you |
|
|
| 526 |
| 00:35:00,150 |
| know, romanticizing war. Let's go, let's die for |
|
|
| 527 |
| 00:35:02,730 |
| our country. It is like Horace said, it is sweet |
|
|
| 528 |
| 00:35:06,870 |
| and proper to die for one's country. |
| |
| 529 |
| 00:35:13,550 --> 00:35:17,870 |
| And I want to notice two things here. Number one, |
| |
| 530 |
| 00:35:18,310 --> 00:35:22,330 |
| the traditional imagery he uses. In many ways, |
| |
| 531 |
| 00:35:22,410 --> 00:35:25,770 |
| you'll find this connected to that poetry of |
|
|
| 532 |
| 00:35:25,770 |
| probably, I don't know, Homer or Beowulf or other |
| |
| 533 |
| 00:35:28,830 --> 00:35:32,570 |
| English heroic poetry, poetry of battles and wars, |
| |
| 534 |
| 00:35:32,690 --> 00:35:35,350 |
| how the fighters are heroes. They're defending |
|
|
| 535 |
| 00:35:35,350 |
| their honor, their country. They're paying back |
| |
| 536 |
| 00:35:38,010 --> 00:35:41,790 |
| the debt. But also notice also, so there's this |
|
|
| 537 |
| 00:35:41,790 |
| traditional thing, traditional imagery of, you |
|
|
| 538 |
| 00:35:44,050 |
| know, the sun and the, you know, things from |
|
|
| 539 |
| 00:35:48,870 |
| England, the river, the image there, these |
|
|
| 540 |
| 00:35:52,270 |
| beautiful images of nature, beauty. But I like, |
|
|
| 541 |
| 00:35:57,050 |
| you know, this under an English heaven could just |
|
|
| 542 |
| 00:36:00,610 |
| be like under heaven physically being somewhere. |
|
|
| 543 |
| 00:36:05,830 |
| But heaven could also mean paradise. This could be |
|
|
| 544 |
| 00:36:10,910 |
| a religious image here, a religious tomb, |
|
|
| 545 |
| 00:36:15,190 |
| religious language. So don't worry if you die for |
| |
| 546 |
| 00:36:17,950 --> 00:36:21,590 |
| your country going straight to heaven. You are a |
| |
| 547 |
| 00:36:21,590 --> 00:36:27,630 |
| martyr. You don't die any death, any ordinary |
|
|
| 548 |
| 00:36:27,630 |
| death. you are a hero and your country is proud of |
|
|
| 549 |
| 00:36:32,560 |
| you and we are going to celebrate you and indeed |
|
|
| 550 |
| 00:36:35,340 |
| this poem has become a very famous it's if you go |
| |
| 551 |
| 00:36:38,220 --> 00:36:41,900 |
| to youtube many people sing this poem and England |
| |
| 552 |
| 00:36:41,900 --> 00:36:45,920 |
| has used this poem all the time to again to incite |
| |
| 553 |
| 00:36:47,210 --> 00:36:52,170 |
| to incite soldiers, people to join the army to |
| |
| 554 |
| 00:36:52,170 --> 00:36:56,270 |
| fight evil terror around the world, to defend the |
| |
| 555 |
| 00:36:56,270 --> 00:36:58,890 |
| crown, to defend the queen, to defend the king. |
| |
| 556 |
| 00:37:00,310 --> 00:37:04,110 |
| And I read somewhere that this man was, he was in |
| |
| 557 |
| 00:37:04,110 --> 00:37:07,490 |
| the army, but because he wrote many poems that are |
| |
| 558 |
| 00:37:07,490 --> 00:37:14,150 |
| pro-war, he was, I don't know what the term is, he |
|
|
| 559 |
| 00:37:14,150 |
| was called from wherever he was and he didn't want |
| |
| 560 |
| 00:37:18,310 --> 00:37:20,810 |
| to go back. He wanted to join the army. He wanted |
| |
| 561 |
| 00:37:20,810 --> 00:37:24,330 |
| to fight. But the country wanted him back home |
| |
| 562 |
| 00:37:24,330 --> 00:37:27,930 |
| safe and sound so he could write more poetry and |
| |
| 563 |
| 00:37:27,930 --> 00:37:32,910 |
| promote this. And again, this shows indicates how |
| |
| 564 |
| 00:37:32,910 --> 00:37:37,310 |
| significant poets and poetry are. The country |
| |
| 565 |
| 00:37:37,310 --> 00:37:40,630 |
| needs soldiers, right? But also the country needs |
| |
| 566 |
| 00:37:40,630 --> 00:37:44,710 |
| poets to tell the people that, hey, don't worry. |
|
|
| 567 |
| 00:37:46,030 |
| You're going to die a hero. And that's why we're |
| |
| 568 |
| 00:37:49,690 --> 00:37:52,830 |
| going to compare this next class with a poem by |
| |
| 569 |
| 00:37:52,830 --> 00:37:59,430 |
| Wilfred Owen, a man who really was at the front, |
| |
| 570 |
| 00:38:00,550 --> 00:38:01,530 |
| who saw people die. |
| |
| 571 |
| 00:38:04,870 --> 00:38:07,290 |
| Before we finish, I want to go through these |
| |
| 572 |
| 00:38:07,290 --> 00:38:11,050 |
| questions, and I probably can talk about some of |
| |
| 573 |
| 00:38:11,050 --> 00:38:17,100 |
| them in brief. So again, is this a pro or anti-war |
| |
| 574 |
| 00:38:17,100 --> 00:38:20,180 |
| poem? Does it call for war? Does it say war is |
| |
| 575 |
| 00:38:20,180 --> 00:38:23,800 |
| horrible? Pro war. |
| |
| 576 |
| 00:38:26,980 --> 00:38:29,740 |
| Unless you take this as a very very silly argument |
| |
| 577 |
| 00:38:29,740 --> 00:38:33,120 |
| and you think it does the opposite. I don't want |
|
|
| 578 |
| 00:38:33,120 |
| to die just to be under English heaven. But yeah, |
|
|
| 579 |
| 00:38:39,800 |
| this man is known, Robert Brooke, as a pro-war |
|
|
| 580 |
| 00:38:43,160 |
| poet. What do you think of the poem as a |
|
|
| 581 |
| 00:38:46,600 |
| Palestinian? What do you think of this? Because |
|
|
| 582 |
| 00:38:49,860 |
| listen, this is the war that again, it happened |
|
|
| 583 |
| 00:38:54,540 |
| mainly in Europe and somewhere in colonized areas, |
|
|
| 584 |
| 00:38:58,360 |
| but as Palestinians, we still pay the price for |
|
|
| 585 |
| 00:39:00,720 |
| this. And don't forget that, again, the English |
| |
| 586 |
| 00:39:05,500 --> 00:39:08,260 |
| cemetery of British soldiers, an area that |
| |
| 587 |
| 00:39:08,260 --> 00:39:11,960 |
| Palestinians have been taken good care of, |
| |
| 588 |
| 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,020 |
| respecting and protecting, which is really good. |
| |
| 589 |
| 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,800 |
| Because these are young people who were sent, |
| |
| 590 |
| 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:24,000 |
| probably some of them unwillingly to war. But as a |
| |
| 591 |
| 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:25,980 |
| Palestinian, what do you make of this, Paul? |
| |
| 592 |
| 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:30,330 |
| Please. First of all, I believe that he actually |
| |
| 593 |
| 00:39:30,330 --> 00:39:32,750 |
| doesn't reflect at all the real meaning of war. |
|
|
| 594 |
| 00:39:32,910 |
| War is savage, it's cruel, and he isn't... He even |
|
|
| 595 |
| 00:39:36,320 |
| didn't mention the word word. He gave the image |
| |
| 596 |
| 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,420 |
| and actually he gave a great image. So they can, |
| |
| 597 |
| 00:39:42,740 --> 00:39:45,580 |
| he can like wash the minds of the soldiers. So |
| |
| 598 |
| 00:39:45,580 --> 00:39:47,740 |
| they can. So, so you're taking this as kind of |
|
|
| 599 |
| 00:39:47,740 |
| brainwashing, you know, indoctrination. The |
|
|
| 600 |
| 00:39:50,480 |
| reference to war is, is just here. The soldier, if |
|
|
| 601 |
| 00:39:54,200 |
| the title of the poet, the sonnet, this is the |
|
|
| 602 |
| 00:39:55,980 |
| sonnet by the way. Look at the sonnet. It's A B A |
| |
| 603 |
| 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,500 |
| right? C D |
| |
| 604 |
| 00:40:11,690 --> 00:40:25,170 |
| A, B, A, B, C, D, and then aware, air, yes C, D. |
| |
| 605 |
| 00:40:25,850 --> 00:40:27,770 |
| Is that Shakespeare or Petrarch? |
| |
| 606 |
| 00:40:31,970 --> 00:40:35,650 |
| It's never Petrarch. Petrarch is A B B A A B B A. |
|
|
| 607 |
| 00:40:35,690 |
| Shakespeare is A B A B C D C D. He doesn't do |
| |
| 608 |
| 00:40:39,830 --> 00:40:43,850 |
| this. But because if you think this is one unit |
| |
| 609 |
| 00:40:43,850 --> 00:40:49,570 |
| here and an octave. Probably closer, the fact that |
| |
| 610 |
| 00:40:49,570 --> 00:40:52,110 |
| he alternates between the rhymes makes it closer |
| |
| 611 |
| 00:40:52,110 --> 00:40:54,610 |
| Shakespeare, but then the fact that this is an |
| |
| 612 |
| 00:40:54,610 --> 00:40:57,650 |
| octave and then followed by assisted means that |
| |
| 613 |
| 00:40:57,650 --> 00:41:01,330 |
| this is basically probably not Shakespeare, not |
| |
| 614 |
| 00:41:01,330 --> 00:41:04,910 |
| Petrarch. A combination of both, but also at the |
| |
| 615 |
| 00:41:04,910 --> 00:41:07,950 |
| same time, he's changing the rhyme scheme. And I |
|
|
| 616 |
| 00:41:07,950 |
| don't think there is a twist here, there's an |
|
|
| 617 |
| 00:41:09,410 |
| argument. He doesn't argue, he doesn't say, some |
|
|
| 618 |
| 00:41:11,310 |
| people say, dying is bad, is horrible, war is bad, |
|
|
| 619 |
| 00:41:14,910 |
| however, It's all about how beautiful it is, how |
| |
| 620 |
| 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,460 |
| sweet and proper it is to die for one's country. |
|
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| 621 |
| 00:41:21,180 |
| So A, B, A, B, C, D, C, D and then? Yeah? |
|
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| 622 |
| 00:41:30,340 |
| E, F, G, very strange. E, F, G. |
|
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| 623 |
| 00:41:45,240 |
| He's using all Shakespeare's letters, right? But |
|
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| 624 |
| 00:41:49,860 |
| there is, we don't have a couplet here. This is a |
| |
| 625 |
| 00:41:55,540 --> 00:42:02,960 |
| system. Okay. Same question? Maybe this statue |
| |
| 626 |
| 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:06,560 |
| belongs to the prince. He is mixed between the war |
| |
| 627 |
| 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,140 |
| and peace. Not talking exactly about the war. And |
| |
| 628 |
| 00:42:09,140 --> 00:42:11,540 |
| he's raised also mixed between Shakespeare and the |
|
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| 629 |
| 00:42:11,540 |
| prince. Possible. Okay, I like your thinking, |
|
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| 630 |
| 00:42:14,980 |
| connecting the form to the meaning here. How is |
|
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| 631 |
| 00:42:18,440 |
| England represented in the poem? |
|
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| 632 |
| 00:42:24,140 |
| Here England represented as a mother and I want to |
|
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| 633 |
| 00:42:27,820 |
| say something, there's no comparison between our |
| |
| 634 |
| 00:42:30,380 --> 00:42:35,660 |
| people as a Christian and their people. They don't |
|
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| 635 |
| 00:42:35,660 |
| defend their country against invaders from outside |
|
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| 636 |
| 00:42:40,020 |
| to their country, no. They go to their countries |
|
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| 637 |
| 00:42:43,120 |
| and invade, actually they invade them. They were |
|
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| 638 |
| 00:42:46,850 |
| invading other countries and also expanding or |
|
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| 639 |
| 00:42:50,950 |
| defending the British Empire. Thank you. Actually, |
|
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| 640 |
| 00:42:57,180 |
| we've tried something similar to this, because |
| |
| 641 |
| 00:42:59,140 --> 00:43:03,540 |
| Palestinians, when they go and do freedom marches, |
| |
| 642 |
| 00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:05,980 |
| we call them freedom marches, because they see |
| |
| 643 |
| 00:43:05,980 --> 00:43:10,240 |
| their land as London flowers and everything that |
| |
| 644 |
| 00:43:10,240 --> 00:43:12,880 |
| belongs to them. But I don't think that an Israeli |
|
|
| 645 |
| 00:43:12,880 |
| soldier would think the same, except if he is |
|
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| 646 |
| 00:43:15,800 |
| really in the same place as you mentioned. But I |
|
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| 647 |
| 00:43:18,300 |
| don't think that they have That's why it's really |
| |
| 648 |
| 00:43:22,980 --> 00:43:25,520 |
| always fascinating to compare, to do comparison |
| |
| 649 |
| 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:29,520 |
| studies. Palestinian poetry has always been |
| |
| 650 |
| 00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,980 |
| compared to Irish poetry because there was this |
| |
| 651 |
| 00:43:31,980 --> 00:43:34,560 |
| resistance thing. And if you listen to Irish |
| |
| 652 |
| 00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,120 |
| songs, you'll be amazed how similar, sometimes |
|
|
| 653 |
| 00:43:37,120 |
| they think of how against Wheaton properties would |
|
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| 654 |
| 00:43:40,300 |
| I for your country. Okay, I'm raising these points |
| |
| 655 |
| 00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:49,400 |
| now. What does under an English heaven indicate? I |
| |
| 656 |
| 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:53,140 |
| just partly mentioned this, that England is |
| |
| 657 |
| 00:43:53,140 --> 00:43:56,020 |
| heaven, but also that this is a religious thing, |
| |
| 658 |
| 00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,060 |
| that how the poet is using traditional imagery |
| |
| 659 |
| 00:43:59,060 --> 00:44:05,900 |
| from traditional ways of writing poetry, of |
| |
| 660 |
| 00:44:05,900 --> 00:44:10,980 |
| fighting, of heroism, the battles, the sun, the |
| |
| 661 |
| 00:44:10,980 --> 00:44:15,150 |
| heaven, the river, the happiness. But also using |
| |
| 662 |
| 00:44:15,150 --> 00:44:19,090 |
| religious, so is it again part of how he's trying |
|
|
| 663 |
| 00:44:19,090 |
| to convince these soldiers to talk, to address, to |
|
|
| 664 |
| 00:44:21,910 |
| invoke their religious mentality here that God is |
|
|
| 665 |
| 00:44:27,850 |
| with you, God is with us, the English people? I |
|
|
| 666 |
| 00:44:34,160 |
| don't know if this is related, but maybe it can be |
| |
| 667 |
| 00:44:36,580 --> 00:44:40,420 |
| related to the English, the white man's duty of |
|
|
| 668 |
| 00:44:40,420 |
| like enlightening other people in civilized |
|
|
| 669 |
| 00:44:44,020 |
| countries. Because as you said before, they go to |
|
|
| 670 |
| 00:44:47,500 |
| countries and they invade them, so maybe he wants |
|
|
| 671 |
| 00:44:50,840 |
| to know that this is the English habit that you |
|
|
| 672 |
| 00:44:53,620 |
| will be having in your country when you come and |
|
|
| 673 |
| 00:44:57,000 |
| invade them. So rather we are turning, okay you |
|
|
| 674 |
| 00:44:59,660 |
| are suggesting that this is Again, the white man's |
| |
| 675 |
| 00:45:04,050 --> 00:45:06,570 |
| obligation to go and civilize other people and |
| |
| 676 |
| 00:45:06,570 --> 00:45:12,030 |
| turn hell into heaven. on earth into heaven. |
| |
| 677 |
| 00:45:12,750 --> 00:45:14,490 |
| Possibly, but I take it as more of a religious |
| |
| 678 |
| 00:45:14,490 --> 00:45:18,490 |
| indication here. More of a religious term to |
| |
| 679 |
| 00:45:18,490 --> 00:45:24,290 |
| convince people more that death is going to be |
| |
| 680 |
| 00:45:24,290 --> 00:45:28,150 |
| followed by heaven. For me, I believe that this |
| |
| 681 |
| 00:45:28,150 --> 00:45:32,690 |
| person totally has a colonizing mental. Actually, |
| |
| 682 |
| 00:45:32,830 --> 00:45:35,510 |
| look at how many times he mentioned England. He |
| |
| 683 |
| 00:45:35,510 --> 00:45:38,330 |
| was promising that England is going to dominate |
| |
| 684 |
| 00:45:38,330 --> 00:45:45,770 |
| the universe. I don't think there is an indication |
|
|
| 685 |
| 00:45:45,770 |
| that England will dominate, but possibly the fact |
|
|
| 686 |
| 00:45:48,170 |
| that he keeps repeating, becoming England, okay. |
|
|
| 687 |
| 00:45:53,290 |
| So wherever we go, whatever we touch, everything, |
|
|
| 688 |
| 00:45:59,670 |
| there's this book, Everything Trump Touches Dies, |
| |
| 689 |
| 00:46:03,170 --> 00:46:06,450 |
| and there is this Greek mythology, what's his |
|
|
| 690 |
| 00:46:06,450 |
| name, The Guy, Everything he touches turns into |
|
|
| 691 |
| 00:46:11,280 |
| gold. That's very famous in English, in mythology. |
| |
| 692 |
| 00:46:14,140 --> 00:46:17,720 |
| Who's Greek corner here doing? Who's doing Greek |
| |
| 693 |
| 00:46:17,720 --> 00:46:20,620 |
| corner? What's the name of the guy that touches |
|
|
| 694 |
| 00:46:20,620 |
| the, whatever he touches turns into gold? Nope. |
|
|
| 695 |
| 00:46:27,540 |
| Medias, something like this. Like closer to |
|
|
| 696 |
| 00:46:30,940 |
| Mediosa. |
|
|
| 697 |
| 00:46:36,910 |
| Okay, so everything English, everything England |
|
|
| 698 |
| 00:46:41,610 |
| touches turns English, typical. Now, Brooks' poem, |
| |
| 699 |
| 00:46:48,050 --> 00:46:52,910 |
| The Soldier, is an example of dangers, of the |
| |
| 700 |
| 00:46:52,910 --> 00:46:56,150 |
| dangers of romanticizing war, telling the young |
| |
| 701 |
| 00:46:56,150 --> 00:47:00,650 |
| people war is fun, it's just go kill people, you |
|
|
| 702 |
| 00:47:00,650 |
| know? by comforting the survivors, telling the |
|
|
| 703 |
| 00:47:06,470 |
| mothers, the parents, and this is probably a poem |
|
|
| 704 |
| 00:47:08,630 |
| written not for the soldiers, about the soldiers, |
|
|
| 705 |
| 00:47:11,010 |
| for the parents just to comfort them, to tell them |
|
|
| 706 |
| 00:47:14,850 |
| that your kids are in heaven. And that's probably |
| |
| 707 |
| 00:47:17,810 --> 00:47:20,890 |
| why he's bringing heaven here as a religious term, |
|
|
| 708 |
| 00:47:21,010 |
| because older people tend to be more religious. |
|
|
| 709 |
| 00:47:24,310 |
| They seek solace, they seek peace in the fact that |
|
|
| 710 |
| 00:47:27,370 |
| at least the kids died a happy death, died doing |
|
|
| 711 |
| 00:47:32,210 |
| something they wanted to do and also defending |
|
|
| 712 |
| 00:47:34,570 |
| their country and also died happy and laughing. |
|
|
| 713 |
| 00:47:38,250 |
| And that's |
| |
| 714 |
| 00:47:41,870 --> 00:47:44,690 |
| why I can hear the reference to an English heaven. |
| |
| 715 |
| 00:47:46,670 --> 00:47:49,170 |
| And he's also accused of downplaying the grim |
|
|
| 716 |
| 00:47:49,170 |
| reality of war. I'm using this as a quote. Listen, |
| |
| 717 |
| 00:47:51,790 --> 00:47:54,440 |
| look at this. If you're doing research, Look at |
|
|
| 718 |
| 00:47:54,440 |
| these brackets here, square brackets. I am adding, |
|
|
| 719 |
| 00:47:59,500 |
| if you're quoting something and you're adding to |
|
|
| 720 |
| 00:48:01,560 |
| the text things that don't change the meaning, |
| |
| 721 |
| 00:48:03,780 --> 00:48:08,520 |
| just sometimes even capital or small letter, by, I |
| |
| 722 |
| 00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:13,320 |
| added by, I added and, I added of war. So to tell |
| |
| 723 |
| 00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,200 |
| the reader that this is not something that the |
| |
| 724 |
| 00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:18,870 |
| original author said, It's something I am adding |
|
|
| 725 |
| 00:48:18,870 |
| to make it clearer in the context I'm using. You |
| |
| 726 |
| 00:48:21,650 --> 00:48:25,510 |
| use this thing. So think about this. How is this |
| |
| 727 |
| 00:48:25,510 --> 00:48:29,090 |
| romanticizing? How is he telling people to do |
| |
| 728 |
| 00:48:29,090 --> 00:48:35,030 |
| this? Now, finally, again another quote, for a |
| |
| 729 |
| 00:48:35,030 --> 00:48:38,250 |
| nation desperate to turn the senseless loss of its |
| |
| 730 |
| 00:48:38,250 --> 00:48:41,690 |
| soldiers into something that could be coped with, |
| |
| 731 |
| 00:48:42,030 --> 00:48:45,930 |
| something you could adapt to, even celebrated. |
| |
| 732 |
| 00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:51,080 |
| Like he's celebrating war here. Poetry, like |
|
|
| 733 |
| 00:48:51,080 |
| Brooke's poem, became a cornerstone of the |
| |
| 734 |
| 00:48:55,480 --> 00:49:00,430 |
| remembrance process. how countries again use such |
| |
| 735 |
| 00:49:00,430 --> 00:49:03,170 |
| kind of literature consider like consider this |
| |
| 736 |
| 00:49:03,170 --> 00:49:07,210 |
| poetry this literature as significant because it |
| |
| 737 |
| 00:49:07,210 --> 00:49:10,890 |
| serves the purpose they have the purpose of you |
| |
| 738 |
| 00:49:10,890 --> 00:49:14,390 |
| know how and if you watch American movies it's |
|
|
| 739 |
| 00:49:14,390 |
| always there there's always this huge respect for |
| |
| 740 |
| 00:49:17,730 --> 00:49:20,910 |
| for previous soldiers for veterans they give them |
| |
| 741 |
| 00:49:20,910 --> 00:49:22,910 |
| discounts they respect them they give them |
| |
| 742 |
| 00:49:22,910 --> 00:49:27,020 |
| priority they like Give them loans, they, like, |
| |
| 743 |
| 00:49:27,500 --> 00:49:30,320 |
| you just, if you are, if you turn into a soldier |
| |
| 744 |
| 00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,800 |
| in America, you're the best. Everyone is, almost |
|
|
| 745 |
| 00:49:32,800 |
| everyone is going to respect you. There's the |
| |
| 746 |
| 00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,720 |
| famous poster, like, America wants you, this |
| |
| 747 |
| 00:49:37,720 --> 00:49:40,420 |
| thing. And we've seen how, we always see how |
|
|
| 748 |
| 00:49:40,420 |
| American movies and Hollywood, how they glorify |
|
|
| 749 |
| 00:49:43,460 |
| soldiers. And at the same time, how they demonize |
|
|
| 750 |
| 00:49:47,200 |
| and dehumanize the others. There's this movie, one |
| |
| 751 |
| 00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:55,640 |
| of the worst movies ever, The Sniper, a man who |
| |
| 752 |
| 00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:59,240 |
| killed about 150 Iraqis. |
| |
| 753 |
| 00:50:01,100 --> 00:50:04,360 |
| And how you're made still to feel sorry for this |
|
|
| 754 |
| 00:50:04,360 |
| bloodthirsty murderer. Terrorist, he should be |
|
|
| 755 |
| 00:50:08,700 |
| called. But what is killing 150 Iraqis? Nothing. |
|
|
| 756 |
| 00:50:16,120 |
| And Trump is now pardoning war criminals, soldiers |
|
|
| 757 |
| 00:50:21,600 |
| who committed hideous crimes in Iraq and |
|
|
| 758 |
| 00:50:24,240 |
| Afghanistan. What message is he sending to young |
|
|
| 759 |
| 00:50:27,500 |
| Americans, to soldiers? Just kill. Don't worry. |
| |
| 760 |
| 00:50:32,500 --> 00:50:36,000 |
| I'll protect you. I'm sending you there because |
| |
| 761 |
| 00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,400 |
| there's this idea, like the argument, I'm sending |
| |
| 762 |
| 00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:39,700 |
| you there, there's a possibility that you're going |
| |
| 763 |
| 00:50:39,700 --> 00:50:43,900 |
| to die at any moment. You're going to die at any |
|
|
| 764 |
| 00:50:43,900 |
| moment. |
|
|
| 765 |
| 00:50:47,320 |
| I'll have you back if you do anything, anything, |
| |
| 766 |
| 00:50:51,740 --> 00:50:55,140 |
| even killing hundreds of people. Even there's this |
|
|
| 767 |
| 00:50:55,140 |
| horrible, horrible massacre in Iraq where they, |
|
|
| 768 |
| 00:50:59,460 |
| the soldiers raped a 10-year-old. They killed her, |
|
|
| 769 |
| 00:51:01,820 |
| killed her parents and family and brothers and |
|
|
| 770 |
| 00:51:03,760 |
| sisters. And the man, the same soldier was like |
|
|
| 771 |
| 00:51:07,440 |
| saying, we didn't treat Iraq, we didn't consider |
|
|
| 772 |
| 00:51:09,600 |
| Iraqis human beings. That's demonization and |
| |
| 773 |
| 00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:19,400 |
| dehumanization. War is bad, war never ends. But |
| |
| 774 |
| 00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:22,760 |
| yet, some people will find it proper to celebrate, |
| |
| 775 |
| 00:51:23,860 --> 00:51:26,040 |
| to glorify, |
| |
| 776 |
| 00:51:27,220 --> 00:51:29,740 |
| et cetera. So think about these things, and I'll |
|
|
| 777 |
| 00:51:29,740 |
| stop here. Next class, we're doing another war |
| |
| 778 |
| 00:51:34,380 --> 00:51:40,180 |
| poem by Wilfred Owen, Futility. Thank you very |
| |
| 779 |
| 00:51:40,180 --> 00:51:41,260 |
| much, good luck. |
| |
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