The cheers and hails of happiness at a wedding in Khan Younes in the southern Gaza Strip turned into screams and moans of pain after one of the celebrators lost control of his weapon , from which a number of bullets were released that killed the groom 's brother and hit three other relatives of his , turning the wedding into a funeral in moments .

The cheers and hails of happiness at a wedding in <gpe>Khan Younes</gpe> in the southern <gpe>Gaza Strip</gpe> turned into screams and moans of pain after <cardinal>one</cardinal> of the celebrators lost control of his weapon , from which a number of bullets were released that killed the groom 's brother and hit <cardinal>three</cardinal> other relatives of his , turning the wedding into a funeral in moments .


A medical source at Nasser Hospital in Khan Younes told United Press International that Palestinian citizen Kamal Mohamed Al Bashiti -LRB- 33 years old -RRB- died shortly after he was hit by a gunshot in the chest from an accidental shooting at his brother 's wedding in Khan Younes .

A medical source at <fac>Nasser Hospital</fac> in <gpe>Khan Younes</gpe> told <org>United Press International</org> that <norp>Palestinian</norp> citizen <person>Kamal Mohamed Al Bashiti</person> <date>-LRB- 33 years old -RRB-</date> died shortly after he was hit by a gunshot in the chest from an accidental shooting at his brother 's wedding in <gpe>Khan Younes</gpe> .


Three other relatives of his were also injured in the accident , including two children .

<cardinal>Three</cardinal> other relatives of his were also injured in the accident , including <cardinal>two</cardinal> children .


Gaza Strip residents are suffering from the problem of aggravation from the weapons mess and security chaos resulting from the intense spread of weapons in the hands of security agency individuals and members of factions and families .

<gpe>Gaza Strip</gpe> residents are suffering from the problem of aggravation from the weapons mess and security chaos resulting from the intense spread of weapons in the hands of security agency individuals and members of factions and families .


This is a common practice that claimed the lives of about 350 people last year , according to Palestinian human rights sources .

This is a common practice that claimed the lives of about <cardinal>350</cardinal> people last year , according to <norp>Palestinian</norp> human rights sources .


Mohamed Al Bashiti , 18 -LRB- years old -RRB- , a relative of the victim , mentioned that while the young men were performing dances and popular dabke dances Thursday evening , and while they were in a state of intense rejoicing for the wedding of our relative , Majed Al Bashiti , one of the armed men lost control of his weapon , which he was trying to use to fire to celebrate and greet the groom .

<person>Mohamed Al Bashiti</person> , <date>18 -LRB- years old -RRB-</date> , a relative of the victim , mentioned that while the young men were performing dances and popular dabke dances <date>Thursday</date> evening , and while they were in a state of intense rejoicing for the wedding of our relative , <person>Majed Al Bashiti</person> , <cardinal>one</cardinal> of the armed men lost control of his weapon , which he was trying to use to fire to celebrate and greet the groom .


The bullets went astray and hit a number of participants amid a state of panic and terror .


In moments , the wedding cheers turned into screams and the hitting of cheeks .


The participants of the party moved to Nasser Hospital , which lay hundreds of meters away from the site of the wedding .

The participants of the party moved to <fac>Nasser Hospital</fac> , which lay <quantity>hundreds of meters</quantity> away from the site of the wedding .


The tragic news came after a little while : the death of the groom 's brother , who works in one of the security agencies .

The tragic news came after a little while : the death of the groom 's brother , who works in <cardinal>one</cardinal> of the security agencies .


An elderly man said , " I asked them not to shoot and asked them for God 's sake not to do it , but they persisted in it , until what happened happened .


A number of women suffered cases of fainting and shock after the tragic accident . "


Some Palestinians are used to shooting in the air during their celebrations , especially weddings , as an expression of their happiness , in spite of the repeated warnings the Ministry of Interior has launched to chase those who take part in this practice .

Some <norp>Palestinians</norp> are used to shooting in the air during their celebrations , especially weddings , as an expression of their happiness , in spite of the repeated warnings <org>the Ministry of Interior</org> has launched to chase those who take part in this practice .


But the warnings were limited to announcements after each incident , without translating into actual procedure in reality .


A researcher at the Palestinian Center for Human Rights , Yasser Abd Al Ghafoor , said this is not the first time victims have fallen in similar incidents , noting that the rights organizations observed several incidents in which victims fell and injuries occurred during wedding and celebration gunfire , one of the common misuses of weapons in the Gaza Strip .

A researcher at <org>the Palestinian Center for Human Rights</org> , <person>Yasser Abd Al Ghafoor</person> , said this is not the first time victims have fallen in similar incidents , noting that the rights organizations observed several incidents in which victims fell and injuries occurred during wedding and celebration gunfire , <cardinal>one</cardinal> of the common misuses of weapons in <gpe>the Gaza Strip</gpe> .


The city of Khan Younes had witnessed on the third of last July a similar incident , when the girl , Amani Al Raqab , died by a bullet that hit her by mistake from a revolver her brother was shooting off on his wedding day .

The city of <gpe>Khan Younes</gpe> had witnessed on <date>the third of last July</date> a similar incident , when the girl , <person>Amani Al Raqab</person> , died by a bullet that hit her by mistake from a revolver her brother was shooting off on his wedding day .


Very urgent ... -LRB- new -RRB- film of Saddam ... after the torture by the Rafida -LRB- the throat cutting -RRB- !!!

Very urgent ... -LRB- new -RRB- film of <person>Saddam</person> ... after the torture by the <person>Rafida</person> -LRB- the throat cutting -RRB- !!!


Ibn al - Faqeer


Upload the film .


The operating program .


A film depicting the vileness the Rafida reached in dealing with Saddam ... cutting his throat by kicking him in his face , may they be cursed by God .

A film depicting the vileness the <person>Rafida</person> reached in dealing with <person>Saddam</person> ... cutting his throat by kicking him in his face , may they be cursed by God .


Please publish the film on the satellite channels so that everyone will know how cowardly these bastards are .


The film is a copy of the film which was taken after his execution on the morning of the blessed Eid .

The film is a copy of the film which was taken after his execution on <date>the morning of the blessed Eid</date> .


From the Moslem picture archives , his heart was ripped out by the Rafida .

From the <norp>Moslem</norp> picture archives , his heart was ripped out by the <person>Rafida</person> .


Here we are saying good - bye to another year ... what a pity that we were negligent in it .

Here we are saying good - bye to another <date>year</date> ... what a pity that we were negligent in it .


Abu Dilama


The film can be found on the following links in the avi format and it can be played using the Real Player program .

The film can be found on the following links in the avi format and it can be played using the <product>Real Player</product> program .


The size of the file is = 3 mb

The size of the file is = <quantity>3 mb</quantity>


We ask our brothers and sisters to upload the film to other sites ... because of its importance .


For correspondence : --


alisau@gmail.com


Google is broadcasting a new video recording of Saddam 's corpse after his execution .

<org>Google</org> is broadcasting a new video recording of <person>Saddam</person> 's corpse after his execution .


A new video recording depicting the corpse of the late Iraqi president Saddam Hussein after his execution on the morning of the first day of the Eidul Adha was broadcasted Monday evening on the Google Internet website .

A new video recording depicting the corpse of the late <norp>Iraqi</norp> president <person>Saddam Hussein</person> after his execution on the morning of the <ordinal>first</ordinal> day of the Eidul Adha was broadcasted <date>Monday evening</date> on the <org>Google</org> Internet website .


The video shows Saddam Hussein lying covered on a stretcher whilst the camera closes on him .

The video shows <person>Saddam Hussein</person> lying covered on a stretcher whilst the camera closes on him .


Then the covering is removed from his face which has traces of blood on it in addition to a deep wound on his neck .


The video also plays voices of those next to the corpse speaking to each other .


One of them says " quickly " apparently asking the person who is filming to do it quickly .

<cardinal>One</cardinal> of them says " quickly " apparently asking the person who is filming to do it quickly .


Someone is calling to another man in a loud voice saying .. " Abu Ali , Abu Ali .. you will be responsible " for the matter " before the tone of his voice starts to rise in a way suggesting that he is under pressure because the filming is taking too long .

Someone is calling to another man in a loud voice saying .. " <person>Abu Ali</person> , <person>Abu Ali</person> .. you will be responsible " for the matter " before the tone of his voice starts to rise in a way suggesting that he is under pressure because the filming is taking too long .


The clip does not last longer than half a minute and is the second one being broadcast unofficially on the Internet following the film taken on a mobile phone last week which recorded the execution of Saddam and depicted insults and repeated Shiite slogans by those who attended his execution .

The clip does not last longer than <quantity>half a minute</quantity> and is the <ordinal>second</ordinal> one being broadcast unofficially on the Internet following the film taken on a mobile phone <date>last week</date> which recorded the execution of <person>Saddam</person> and depicted insults and repeated <norp>Shiite</norp> slogans by those who attended his execution .


The film link -- http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c5daa5b733


Ibn al - Faqeer


Why did n't this appear in the media --


Tonight I 'll list the two films of the Rafid dervish , Moqtada , for everyone to get to know him up close .

<date>Tonight</date> I 'll list the <cardinal>two</cardinal> films of the <norp>Rafid</norp> dervish , <person>Moqtada</person> , for everyone to get to know him up close .


Thank you for your visit .


Here we are saying good - bye to another year ... what a pity we have been negligent in it .

Here we are saying good - bye to another <date>year</date> ... what a pity we have been negligent in it .


Thanks be to God alone , Yasmine , that He made easy the circulation of such evidence which shows the hate of the Safawiya ... and who will follow the fate of their first grandfather , God permitting .

Thanks be to God alone , <person>Yasmine</person> , that He made easy the circulation of such evidence which shows the hate of the <org>Safawiya</org> ... and who will follow the fate of their <ordinal>first</ordinal> grandfather , God permitting .


May God answer your prayer in the very near future , God willing .


Thank you for your visit and your comment .


Here we are , saying good - bye to another year ... it is a pity we have been negligent in it .

Here we are , saying good - bye to another <date>year</date> ... it is a pity we have been negligent in it .


May God hear you , brother gwardyola ..

May God hear you , brother <person>gwardyola</person> ..


And the large army of infidels , by God 's leave , will be butchered on the banks of the Tigris and in Victorious Baghdad .

And the large army of infidels , by God 's leave , will be butchered on the banks of the <loc>Tigris</loc> and in Victorious <gpe>Baghdad</gpe> .


Thank you for visiting .


Here we are saying good - bye to another year ... it is a pity we have been negligent in it .

Here we are saying good - bye to another <date>year</date> ... it is a pity we have been negligent in it .


Zamzam


Please stop ! .


We are all against the way he was killed and against the Safawites but enough bullcraping that he is the sheikh of the God fearing ones ..

We are all against the way he was killed and against the <norp>Safawites</norp> but enough bullcraping that he is the sheikh of the God fearing ones ..


Click on this link ..


And watch films your Sheikh produced !


Faiz al - Arabi


Thank you for the site , my brother Zamzam ,, thanks be to God who destroyed the oppressors by the oppressors .

Thank you for the site , my brother <person>Zamzam</person> ,, thanks be to God who destroyed the oppressors by the oppressors .


This is my personal opinion and is not binding on anyone .


Abd al - Bari Atwan : -LRB- President Saddam -RRB- Great in His Life .. Great in His Martyrdom

<person>Abd al - Bari Atwan</person> : -LRB- President <person>Saddam</person> -RRB- Great in His Life .. Great in His Martyrdom


Asad


This unprecedented Arab and international interest in the execution of Iraqi President Saddam Hussein and the barbaric way in which it was carried out , confirms the importance of the man , his prominent status , and his distinguished role in the history of the Arab region .

This unprecedented <norp>Arab</norp> and international interest in the execution of <norp>Iraqi</norp> President <person>Saddam Hussein</person> and the barbaric way in which it was carried out , confirms the importance of the man , his prominent status , and his distinguished role in the history of the <norp>Arab</norp> region .


The American administration , who planned carefully for this event through experts in media and public relations , and its tools in Iraq and the inclinations of public opinion did not at all expect such an opposite result , which along with the destructive consequences that may result from it in the coming days have caught them by surprise .

The <norp>American</norp> administration , who planned carefully for this event through experts in media and public relations , and its tools in <gpe>Iraq</gpe> and the inclinations of public opinion did not at all expect such an opposite result , which along with the destructive consequences that may result from it in <date>the coming days</date> have caught them by surprise .


Saddam Hussein proceeded to the gallows like a proud mountain , with head raised , standing upright , looking down at the insignificant things and insignificant people , believing in his creed and his Arabism , repeating slogans of pride and dignity , after he confirmed his faith .

<person>Saddam Hussein</person> proceeded to the gallows like a proud mountain , with head raised , standing upright , looking down at the insignificant things and insignificant people , believing in his creed and his <norp>Arabism</norp> , repeating slogans of pride and dignity , after he confirmed his faith .


He confirmed it by repeating verses from the noble Koran and the two testimonies .

He confirmed it by repeating verses from the noble <work_of_art>Koran</work_of_art> and the <cardinal>two</cardinal> testimonies .


He will be envied by all Arab leaders , both living and dead , for this honorable martyrdom , and this enormous love in the midst of hundreds of millions of Arabs and Muslims all over the different parts of the world .

He will be envied by all <person>Arab</person> leaders , both living and dead , for this honorable martyrdom , and this enormous love in the midst of <cardinal>hundreds of millions</cardinal> of <norp>Arabs</norp> and <norp>Muslims</norp> all over the different parts of the world .


Saddam Hussein was the only leader in the modern history of this nation who went to the guillotine because he was a patriot who refused occupation and surrender to the invasion , and chose resistance .

<person>Saddam Hussein</person> was the only leader in the modern history of this nation who went to the guillotine because he was a patriot who refused occupation and surrender to the invasion , and chose resistance .


The only ones who preceded him in this honor were men like Umar al - Mukhtar and Yusuf al - Azma , by whose struggle the nation and its history were honored , and kept it for them in the records of pride and dignity .

The only ones who preceded him in this honor were men like <person>Umar al - Mukhtar</person> and <person>Yusuf al - Azma</person> , by whose struggle the nation and its history were honored , and kept it for them in the records of pride and dignity .


They hastily executed him because they feared him even when he was behind bars , just as they will still fear him as a corpse hidden under the soil of the homeland , and comparisons between his time and their bloody and chaotic time always came in his favor , and the calls for his return to save Iraq from its crisis and the corrupt and malicious gang that governs it have become deafening to the ears of the occupation and its accomplices .

They hastily executed him because they feared him even when he was behind bars , just as they will still fear him as a corpse hidden under the soil of the homeland , and comparisons between his time and their bloody and chaotic time always came in his favor , and the calls for his return to save <gpe>Iraq</gpe> from its crisis and the corrupt and malicious gang that governs it have become deafening to the ears of the occupation and its accomplices .


He embarrassed them and dwarfed them by standing as a spear in the prisoner 's dock .


They were terrified by the penetrating looks of his eyes .


They were exposed by his patriotism and Arabism and his contempt for the odious sectarian divisions that they planted in their contaminated new Iraq .

They were exposed by his patriotism and <norp>Arabism</norp> and his contempt for the odious sectarian divisions that they planted in their contaminated new <gpe>Iraq</gpe> .


So they decided to get rid of him with a confused and embarrassing hastiness .


Thanks to the technology of the mobile phone which enabled us to recognize the ugly face of the hateful sectarianism that is governing in America 's Iraq .

Thanks to the technology of the mobile phone which enabled us to recognize the ugly face of the hateful sectarianism that is governing in <gpe>America</gpe> 's <gpe>Iraq</gpe> .


This tape exposed the government of the Green Zone , and blew up all the plans for censorship and fraud by the experts of the American Intelligence service and their agents .

This tape exposed the government of <gpe>the Green Zone</gpe> , and blew up all the plans for censorship and fraud by the experts of the <norp>American</norp> Intelligence service and their agents .


It presented us with the naked truth , without that being the intention of its owner .


He was right when he turned to them and said , " Are these your men ? " when they were directing insults at him while he was proceeding to the gallows in magnanimity and with self - respect , repeating the noble words , " and when the ignorant address them they say ' peace . ' "


Is it manliness to shout hateful sectarian slogans in front of a man who has never been sectarian , and the rope of the gallows is being wound around his neck , and his soul will go to its Creator in a few seconds ?


Are these the tolerant ethics of Islam ?

Are these the tolerant ethics of <org>Islam</org> ?


Are these the values of Arabism , decency , and pride ?

Are these the values of <norp>Arabism</norp> , decency , and pride ?


Are those the sons of the great Iraq which had always stood up against invaders throughout history and was a pillar of support for its nation and the causes of justice in the world as a whole ?

Are those the sons of the great <gpe>Iraq</gpe> which had always stood up against invaders throughout history and was a pillar of support for its nation and the causes of justice in the world as a whole ?


We are sorry , but not surprised , because some Arab governments objected only because the execution took place on the day of the feast of Bairam , as if the execution of this man would have been permissible and blessed on any other day .

We are sorry , but not surprised , because some <norp>Arab</norp> governments objected only because the execution took place on <date>the day of the feast of Bairam</date> , as if the execution of this man would have been permissible and blessed on <date>any other day</date> .


We are sorry again because most of the Arab leaders hid in their palaces and none of them dared to speak even one word of protest out of fear of America .

We are sorry again because most of the <norp>Arab</norp> leaders hid in their palaces and none of them dared to speak even <cardinal>one</cardinal> word of protest out of fear of <gpe>America</gpe> .


We were stabbed twice , first when we watched an Arab leader being led to the gallows in accordance with sectarian justice which is spiteful and vengeful . And the second time when we did not see anyone among the club of leaders to which he belonged for more than 30 years object to his execution .

We were stabbed twice , <ordinal>first</ordinal> when we watched an <norp>Arab</norp> leader being led to the gallows in accordance with sectarian justice which is spiteful and vengeful . And the <ordinal>second</ordinal> time when we did not see anyone among the club of leaders to which he belonged for more than <cardinal>30</cardinal> years object to his execution .


Maybe God wanted a good end for him , and a good reputation , when He induced one of them to record what America and the government of sects wanted to hide , by means of the video of the last moments , which created a historic turning point that will perhaps shape the history of the region , and the nature of events in it for decades to come .

Maybe God wanted a good end for him , and a good reputation , when He induced <cardinal>one</cardinal> of them to record what <gpe>America</gpe> and the government of sects wanted to hide , by means of the video of the <ordinal>last</ordinal> moments , which created a historic turning point that will perhaps shape the history of the region , and the nature of events in it for <date>decades to come</date> .


Maybe God wanted to expose the series of lies of Muwaffaq al - Rabi the National Security Advisor in the government of occupation . -LRB- Where is that security ? -RRB- , who went out to the world saying that he , meaning President Saddam , was weak and collapsing while he was on his way to meet his God .

Maybe God wanted to expose the series of lies of <person>Muwaffaq al - Rabi</person> the National Security Advisor in the government of occupation . -LRB- Where is that security ? -RRB- , who went out to the world saying that he , meaning President <person>Saddam</person> , was weak and collapsing while he was on his way to meet his God .


Then the tape comes along and shows us with sound and image that we are in front of a courageous lion , who refuses to wear the mask , just as he refused to take the tranquilizing pills they offered him .


Why the mask , and why the pills ?


The mask is for traitors and criminals who are ashamed of their treason or their crimes , and the tranquilizing pills are appropriate for those who can not face history because of their bad deeds .


The American administration committed a fatal mistake and revealed a major foolishness to be added to its many foolishnesses in Iraq when it executed this man , in a way for which it will pay a hefty price in the near future .

The <norp>American</norp> administration committed a fatal mistake and revealed a major foolishness to be added to its many foolishnesses in <gpe>Iraq</gpe> when it executed this man , in a way for which it will pay a hefty price in <date>the near future</date> .


His survival would have benefited it much more than his execution if they understood politics as they should , because his survival could have been a card to threaten the sectarians and keep them as servants to them and their schemes , just as it could have been a bargaining chip for calming down the resistance and the broad Iraqi sector which supports it .

His survival would have benefited it much more than his execution if they understood politics as they should , because his survival could have been a card to threaten the sectarians and keep them as servants to them and their schemes , just as it could have been a bargaining chip for calming down the resistance and the broad <norp>Iraqi</norp> sector which supports it .


But they do not know anything except grudges , and they do not want anything other than inflicting more degradation on the Arabs and Muslims by his execution .

But they do not know anything except grudges , and they do not want anything other than inflicting more degradation on the <norp>Arabs</norp> and <norp>Muslims</norp> by his execution .


Perhaps the American administration will have succeeded in one thing only , intentionally and with planning or without it , namely , deepening the sectarian breach not only in Iraq but in the Islamic world as a whole .

Perhaps the <norp>American</norp> administration will have succeeded in <cardinal>one</cardinal> thing only , intentionally and with planning or without it , namely , deepening the sectarian breach not only in <gpe>Iraq</gpe> but in the <norp>Islamic</norp> world as a whole .


It was not by coincidence that Nouri al - Maliki signed the decision to carry out the execution .

It was not by coincidence that <person>Nouri al - Maliki</person> signed the decision to carry out the execution .


And it was also not a matter of coincidence that the task of carrying it out was assigned to spiteful sectarians as we have seen in the videotape .


Al - Talabani hid or fled , along with all those who participated in the project of the American occupation and gave it a legitimate cover , from the other sect .

<person>Al - Talabani</person> hid or fled , along with all those who participated in the project of the <norp>American</norp> occupation and gave it a legitimate cover , from the other sect .


This execution will deal a strong blow to all the efforts of national reconciliation .


It will lead to the escalation of attacks against the American forces and those cooperating with it .

It will lead to the escalation of attacks against the <norp>American</norp> forces and those cooperating with it .


It will pour more oil on the fire of the civil war that has already been kindled .


Those who carried out the death sentence do not want reconciliation or to maintain a unified Iraq .

Those who carried out the death sentence do not want reconciliation or to maintain a unified <gpe>Iraq</gpe> .


Rather , they are working to blow it up ; tolerance , forgiveness , and patience are basic characteristics not found in those people .


Saddam had negative traits and positive traits , but he was not killed because of his negative traits , but rather because of his positive traits , which were his belief in Arab unity , resistance to the enemies of the nation , building an unprecedented industrial and educational foundation , and challenging America .

<person>Saddam</person> had negative traits and positive traits , but he was not killed because of his negative traits , but rather because of his positive traits , which were his belief in <norp>Arab</norp> unity , resistance to the enemies of the nation , building an unprecedented industrial and educational foundation , and challenging <gpe>America</gpe> .


He chose resistance and rejected safe and luxurious exile .


The curse of Saddam will continue to chase them , chase the Americans , and chase his spiteful sectarian executioners .

The curse of <person>Saddam</person> will continue to chase them , chase the <norp>Americans</norp> , and chase his spiteful sectarian executioners .


Just as Al - Qaeda emerged from the womb of Israeli arrogance in Lebanon and American arrogance in Iraq , Saddam 's Al - Qaeda will emerge from the womb of the degrading execution process .

Just as <org>Al - Qaeda</org> emerged from the womb of <norp>Israeli</norp> arrogance in <gpe>Lebanon</gpe> and <norp>American</norp> arrogance in <gpe>Iraq</gpe> , <person>Saddam</person> 's <org>Al - Qaeda</org> will emerge from the womb of the degrading execution process .


Pendant of Soldier in Golan Since 1967 War Found

Pendant of Soldier in <loc>Golan</loc> Since <event>1967 War</event> Found


The Cold of the North


Gaza - Dunya al - Watan .

<gpe>Gaza</gpe> - <org>Dunya al - Watan</org> .


Students at schools of the Qisrin settlement found the pendant of a Syrian soldier south of the occupied Syrian Golan .

Students at schools of the <gpe>Qisrin</gpe> settlement found the pendant of a <norp>Syrian</norp> soldier south of the occupied <work_of_art>Syrian</work_of_art> <loc>Golan</loc> .


On the pendant was written the name of the soldier , Mahmoud bin Ali , and his military serial number M 16241 .

On the pendant was written the name of the soldier , <person>Mahmoud bin Ali</person> , and his military serial number M <cardinal>16241</cardinal> .


He was a Muslim , and his blood type was A+ .

He was a <norp>Muslim</norp> , and his blood type was A+ .


The two students , Alexander Ghuliyandrin and Oleg Darutsigh , said that they were on a trip last Saturday morning when they reached a military fortification near Qisrin .

The <cardinal>two</cardinal> students , <person>Alexander Ghuliyandrin</person> and <person>Oleg Darutsigh</person> , said that they were on a trip <date>last Saturday morning</date> when they reached a military fortification near <gpe>Qisrin</gpe> .


It was obvious that man 's foot had not stepped on this place for a long time ago .


The two students entered the fortification where they found old medical equipment and a number of military helmets and a canteen , as well as a military pendant covered with mud and very dirty .

The <cardinal>two</cardinal> students entered the fortification where they found old medical equipment and a number of military helmets and a canteen , as well as a military pendant covered with mud and very dirty .


The two students took the pendant home with them and cleaned it and washed it .

The <cardinal>two</cardinal> students took the pendant home with them and cleaned it and washed it .


They were surprised that it did not belong to an Israeli soldier because the writing on it was in Arabic and they did not understand anything that was written on it .

They were surprised that it did not belong to an <norp>Israeli</norp> soldier because the writing on it was in <language>Arabic</language> and they did not understand anything that was written on it .


The two students took the pendant with them to school on Sunday and tried to consult the teacher to find out what was written on it .

The <cardinal>two</cardinal> students took the pendant with them to school on <date>Sunday</date> and tried to consult the teacher to find out what was written on it .


It turned out that it belonged to a Syrian soldier whose name was Mahmoud bin Ali .

It turned out that it belonged to a <norp>Syrian</norp> soldier whose name was <person>Mahmoud bin Ali</person> .


His military serial number was 16241 , and the writing also indicated that he was a Muslim and his blood type was A+ .

His military serial number was <cardinal>16241</cardinal> , and the writing also indicated that he was a <norp>Muslim</norp> and his blood type was A+ .


A senior officer in the Israeli army who fought in the Golan during the June War as well as in the October War , said that from the descriptions of the place and the fortification given by the two boys , they go back to the war of June 1967 , because the Syrian army did not establish fortifications south of the Golan during the October War .

A senior officer in the <norp>Israeli</norp> army who fought in the <loc>Golan</loc> during <event>the June War</event> as well as in <event>the October War</event> , said that from the descriptions of the place and the fortification given by the <cardinal>two</cardinal> boys , they go back to the war of <date>June 1967</date> , because the <norp>Syrian</norp> army did not establish fortifications south of the <loc>Golan</loc> during <event>the October War</event> .


The officer added that the presence of the pendant in the place together with medicines and medical equipment indicates that the soldier was injured , and it is probable that his fate is still unknown to his family and relatives and no one knows what happened to him .


The strange thing is that the Arab and Syrian media are kept oblivious of these news stories which are concerned with the prisoners and soldiers lost in that war .

The strange thing is that the <norp>Arab</norp> and <norp>Syrian</norp> media are kept oblivious of these news stories which are concerned with the prisoners and soldiers lost in that war .


Theoretically I 'll be here .


theoretically ?


yeah .


You mean , do n't you well , you carry multiple calendars , so you never know ?


Well I do have two .

Well I do have <cardinal>two</cardinal> .


One in the office and one at home .

<cardinal>One</cardinal> in the office and <cardinal>one</cardinal> at home .


oh


The weekend after that %uh I will not be in town .

<date>The weekend after that</date> %uh I will not be in town .


But , %um yeah ,


as I say , theoretically I 'm here .


I have n't decided whether I 'm doing this yet .


It is a bit silly , you know ?


I was just there .


But I 've been , %um ,


the next weekend again I 'm invited for the


let 's see


the child of my favorite cousin is being baptized ,


and they want me to be the godmother


%mm .


English .


Patentante , ja .


Yes ,


And , so , since I did n't go to their wedding , I -- feeling this big pressure .


I should have just gone to the wedding last year .

I should have just gone to the wedding <date>last year</date> .


It was , like oh yeah . in


They started asking me when I was on vacation already .


And so I 'm sort of


it 's easier to think about doing it when you 're on vacation yeah . than if you get this idea %eh when you 're at work and say , oh I ca n't go in four weeks .

it 's easier to think about doing it when you 're on vacation yeah . than if you get this idea %eh when you 're at work and say , oh I ca n't go in <date>four weeks</date> .


How could I possibly just do that ?


yeah I know the feeling .


I m-


But once you 're in vacation mode , it 's sort of like well why should n't I ?


I have the vacation ,


it 's just you know , the time , and the money ,


and what is money for


yeah .


Right .


So I have to make up


It 's a debate .


You sound like you 're the bank .


No .


But I have to make up my mind here by Friday because that 's when I can hold my ticket too .

But I have to make up my mind here by <date>Friday</date> because that 's when I can hold my ticket too .


So I thought I could get a ticket .


I just have to have a discussion with my boss .


So you have to let me know what this entails as consequences for me ?


oh for ,


oh yes .


oh there are good consequences , if you 're willing .


I mean , aside from


so I have to be there on the twentieth in Berlin ,

so I have to be there on <date>the twentieth</date> in <gpe>Berlin</gpe> ,


okay .


uh-huh .


And I could n't go for you know , just , For the day . you know three days .

And I could n't go for you know , just , For <date>the day</date> . you know <date>three days</date> .


So I had to go at least a week .

So I had to go <date>at least a week</date> .


yeah .


And there was an advantage .


It 's because ,


and if you 'd like to join me I 'd love it ,


I was also invited to a wedding on the twelfth somewhere near Duesseldorf .

I was also invited to a wedding on <date>the twelfth</date> somewhere near <gpe>Duesseldorf</gpe> .


Between Duesseldorf and Essen .

Between <gpe>Duesseldorf</gpe> and <gpe>Essen</gpe> .


Well that can only be Rathingen or

Well that can only be <gpe>Rathingen</gpe> or


No it 's north of Rathingen ,

No it 's north of <gpe>Rathingen</gpe> ,


because I 've seen a map .


But it 's in a small thing .


oh Ketting ?


k-


Ketwig .


Ketwig , Ketwig .


Yes .


yeah ,


that 's almost Duesseldorf .


%uh , that 's almost Essen .


okay .


Whichever .


I suppose that 's close .


it 's not far .


Through the S - bahn here .


I mean it 's like twenty minutes .

I mean it 's <time>like twenty minutes</time> .


Or something .


And so , if I do it , I 'd love to have you join me .


It 's a fancy wedding too .


Does that mean I have to get


Do I have to wear a tie ?


Sure .


y-


%um


could be it 's actually


I ca n't believe this .


This is a German friend that I

This is a <norp>German</norp> friend that I


he worked here at NASA for like two years and was in mhm our German conversation club .

he worked here at <org>NASA</org> for <date>like two years</date> and was in mhm our <language>German</language> conversation club .


yeah .


And he 's marrying a German woman .

And he 's marrying a <norp>German</norp> woman .


I mean he just went back a little while ago because his


No he 's an American ,


but he 's marrying a German woman .

but he 's marrying a <norp>German</norp> woman .


oh , he 's a German .


He 's German too .


They 're both German .


So this is a real mhm . German wedding .

So this is a real mhm . <norp>German</norp> wedding .


But


And so he was saying we should come from our


and one other person from our group is going because we would

and <cardinal>one</cardinal> other person from our group is going because we would


he had n't gotten around to planning his vacation .


So he 's going to be there .


So I thought well that 's on the twelfth , and the other thing is on the twentieth , you know .

So I thought well that 's on <date>the twelfth</date> , and the other thing is on <date>the twentieth</date> , you know .


Why not ?


And then in between I 'm going to go down and 586.14_588.20_A: see my relatives in Bonn .

And then in between I 'm going to go down and 586.14_588.20_A: see my relatives in <gpe>Bonn</gpe> .


oh well the twentieth i- ,


I mean that could be a pro- , e-


Well no not the twentieth .

Well no not the <date>twentieth</date> .


The twentieth is my baptism .

<date>The twentieth</date> is my baptism .


%ah so .


The wedding is the twelfth .

The wedding is <date>the twelfth</date> .


The wedding is the twelfth ?

The wedding is <date>the twelfth</date> ?


But it 's like a real thing .


There 's like a wedding at eleven , and a lunch at Schloss Ketwig or something at lunchtime .

There 's like a wedding at <time>eleven</time> , and a lunch at <fac>Schloss Ketwig</fac> or something at <time>lunchtime</time> .


And then at seven o'clock there is , let 's see , %uh dinner dance . mit Abendgarderobe .

And then at <time>seven o'clock</time> there is , let 's see , %uh dinner dance . mit Abendgarderobe .


oh God . nay


But I thought you playing piano you must have that .


Abendgarderobe .


Does n't that mean like really fancy clothes ?


%uh , well .


Ja , ja .


Ball dresses and , you know , tuxedos and things .


yeah , I know .


I could n't believe it


because I met ,


when I was there on the other trip , I had n't read the invitation before .


I did n't think I was going .


And so I had met , %uh , his name is Heiko , for one day in Hamburg .

And so I had met , %uh , his name is <person>Heiko</person> , for one day in <gpe>Hamburg</gpe> .


We met .


yeah .


So he mentioned that he was looking for his tuxedo .


And I said you 're going to get married in a tuxedo ?


He said no , no , no .


That evening .


I 've never heard of such a thing .


Quite a wedding .


But so if you want to bow out .


Pardon ?


I said if you really do n't like those things .


Well .


But you know . It 's great meals .


Really .


Free food .


Aside from , we can talk ,


and they should be nice people .


It 'll be


and then I 'll know one more person there .

and then I 'll know <cardinal>one</cardinal> more person there .


How old are they ?


oh .


A little bit younger than us .


oh , he 's probably


good question .


I do n't know .


Maybe he 's thirty - two ?


That 's okay .


As long as they 're not twenty - one .

As long as they 're not <date>twenty - one</date> .


oh no , no , no , no .


No %uh , spring chicken


This is Herr Doktor Heiko Hecht and Jessika whatever her name is .

This is Herr Doktor <person>Heiko Hecht</person> and <person>Jessika</person> whatever her name is .


ooh .


They actually met in the United States . At I think the University &of Virginia , where he got his doctorate ?

They actually met in <gpe>the United States</gpe> . At I think <org>the University &of Virginia</org> , where he got his doctorate ?


Or , maybe it 's not Virginia ,

Or , maybe it 's not <gpe>Virginia</gpe> ,


but it 's somewhere over there .


mhm .


Something I do n't know .


mhm %hm .


yeah ,


so , you know , they 're not really young .


So I s- ,


their friends I presume are in the same age .


I think there 'll be a lot of family friends .


I have a f-


okay .


I 'm sure .


weddings are always family .


and the way he was talking , it sounds like his wife 's family is well - to - do or something .


so


yeah


well if it , ye-


Interesting people .


If they 're having a wedding with Abendgarderobe then it 's going to be pretty


that 's what I thought .


yeah .


That 's what I thought .


Up upscale .


And that .


So think about it .


yeah . I 'll let you think about that ,


and you can write me a note or give me a call .


Because I know some people really hate weddings .


But you 're afraid to say no ,


or you have to think about it .


But it 's the twelfth .


And otherwise , what I 'd like to try to do is stay with you the twelfth and thirteenth . Because it 's weekend .

And otherwise , what I 'd like to try to do is stay with you the <date>twelfth</date> and <date>thirteenth</date> . Because it 's weekend .


mhm .


Like we could see each other .


And then I 'll go Monday -- down to Bonn , or wherever those relatives are because I have n't seen my uncle in like three or four years , and he 's just turning eighty and I like them a lot

And then I 'll go <date>Monday</date> -- down to <gpe>Bonn</gpe> , or wherever those relatives are because I have n't seen my uncle in <date>like three or four years</date> , and he 's just turning <date>eighty</date> and I like them a lot


uh-huh .


In Bad Muenstereifel ?


yeah ,


I 'll


guess it 'll be summer


so he 'll be in Bad Munstereifel .

so he 'll be in <gpe>Bad Munstereifel</gpe> .


mhm


They 've actually moved .


They do n't live in Bonn now .

They do n't live in <gpe>Bonn</gpe> now .


They live in -- %um , Bad Neuena . Which is I guess

They live in -- %um , <gpe>Bad Neuena</gpe> . Which is I guess


Bad Neuena ja .


just a little bit down .


But I think they 'll be in Munstereifel .

But I think they 'll be in <gpe>Munstereifel</gpe> .


And then my cousin , she still does live in Bonn

And then my cousin , she still does live in <gpe>Bonn</gpe>


so I 'll get to see her .


And then I 'll zip off to Berlin Right . mhm mhm go to this wedding and see my favorite cousin .

And then I 'll zip off to <gpe>Berlin</gpe> Right . mhm mhm go to this wedding and see my favorite cousin .


Do n't tell the other cousins .


uh-huh .


yeah .


Because you see , when I was there before I could n't visit you because I did n't want to spend time visiting these other relatives in Bonn .

Because you see , when I was there before I could n't visit you because I did n't want to spend time visiting these other relatives in <gpe>Bonn</gpe> .


you 're so diplomatic about all of that , you know


Well I mean if I was visiting you , it would be very hard not to visit them .


but n-


But the year before I .


I would n't , %uh , tell on you , you know .


I know you would n't tell .


But the year before I did it .


But that 's because of we just stopped on the train and I had , you know , two hours .

But that 's because of we just stopped on the train and I had , you know , <time>two hours</time> .


And we had our wild lunch .


And on again .


That 's


We , %uh , commiserated .


Yes .


That sounds like you have you know its positive end result , which is good .


I do n't know .


I mean , it 's a change ,


that 's for sure .


It 's a change .


And it is a lot of work , obviously .


yeah ,


I ,


%eh but you know I really do n't know if it 's a lot of work .


I always have this feeling I 'm just so terribly slow .


I have this feeling I should always be doing these things much faster than I get them done .


Well , so what if you 're slow ?


You know , look at it the other way .


yeah


but I always keep %eh that I 'm spending too much time , that I should be doing other things .


yeah .


I just had this talk about somebody who was you know , confirming , you know


and I know I 'm too self critical .


So . It 's not a good idea .


Because I was complaining to them about my mother


and they are this theory that , you know , what people do is a reflection of you .


%huh .


Because this woman had such a that people react to you as a reflection of you .


And what I had mentioned about my mother bugging me was the fact that every time I see her or we even talk , she has to comment about my clothes , or what I 'm wearing .


and I was talking to this woman because she seemed to have such a good relationship with her mother .


Like her mother treated her like a human being and not a kid .


%hm yeah


and so she said you know and she 's just a reflection .


You know your mother 's being critical you know .


Be you see that because you 're critical to yourself too much


Or you 're filtering the information you get from your mother


yeah


but this is ridiculous .


I mean %uh she 's never let up on that .


I mean it 's crazy . You know .


I do n't I mean


and I think no not the last time the last time on the phone I bugged her about something else that I been trying to not take anymore


but then she cries


but that does n't work with me .


uh-huh .


That 's good .


Then she says I 'm being mean .


and I ignore the fact that she 's crying .


I 'm pretty tough .


speaking of crying , I have a colleague . An American girl , a dancer . mhm at a school in Cologne mhm Who somehow or other has fallen in love with me .

speaking of crying , I have a colleague . An <norp>American</norp> girl , a dancer . mhm at a school in <gpe>Cologne</gpe> mhm Who somehow or other has fallen in love with me .


mhm


and now that I 'm , going back to Duesseldorf she 's all going crazy . %um and thinks %eh

and now that I 'm , going back to <gpe>Duesseldorf</gpe> she 's all going crazy . %um and thinks %eh


she 's %eh concluded that I 'm abandoning her .


oho


But it is


Being stalked here ?


Pardon ?


In America , we would say are you being stalked ?

In <gpe>America</gpe> , we would say are you being stalked ?


so he said to let your wife do it you know


%uh right


he says %uh you know no I 'm going to


%eh so now I 'm at a point that it 's very strange


like I wo n't complain about anything


or I ca n't complain about anything


and I ca n't ask him to come help me in the middle of the night when I forgot to take out something they put in the freezer


So we 'll see how it goes


hopefully


I mean they promise me you know everybody that they 're going to help me and that whatever I say


But you know everybody gives you %uh these %uh pro-


yeah


so you 've already started


Well I 've started working with Du


like I do n't cook anymore


I have n't worked in the kitchen for a week already


I 've been just doing with him learning how to do the orders and meeting all the %um sales people


and %um I 've learned how to work the computer which is the bigges-


I said I do n't know how to turn it on even


really


So I 'm not


I do n't know if I could do it yet by myself


but he 's showing me teaching me


and I think like the middle of this week he 'll be there a few days with me

and I think like the middle of this week he 'll be there <date>a few days</date> with me


and then anoth-


he %um


Maybe here and there


but he 's really basically


What is he going to do


He 's going to be a teacher for %um High school computers


oh okay


yeah


so he 's only teaching three days a week

so he 's only teaching <date>three days</date> a week


so he always says that on the other days if I need him he 'll come in


the truth is he 's been teaching and very patient and very good


and he also is great that he has written down everything


I 'm sure he 's thrilled to get out of there


Well I 'll tell you the truth %uh


I mean now that I worked with him one to one He does do everything with his heart


I mean he has a different head than everybody else


like I know that he wants everything to be nice and to be good and


but he 's very separate


and he does n't like to listen to other people 's %um ideas


but %um I 'm sure financially he was probably great for the kibbutz because he was cheap


because he 's also


I 'll tell you


I worked with him this whole week


he does n't eat a thing ever


like all morning long


so he does n't eat


he does n't drink coffee


I did n't see him drink anything water or anything else


one day he said I better drink something I have a headache because it was really hot


but I mean you know he does n't eat anything


and then for lunch when we finally went to go get something to eat Also he eats like a little What we would eat maybe half for a meal


and that 's it


so I can understand now why he thinks that because he does n't have big eyes you know


right


that 's so funny


but anyway


no


so he had agreed to do it for a year

so he had agreed to do it for <date>a year</date>


and his year is over


I


are you excited at all about it


or


well I 'll tell you the truth


until I made the decision I was scared and also utz


I miss the cooking part


You miss it


that 's funny


yeah


like this week even when they made the %um coleslaw you know & kept calling me to taste it and make sure that it was the way that I do it


and so Matty said to me Ellen you did n't make the coleslaw

and so <person>Matty</person> said to me <person>Ellen</person> you did n't make the coleslaw


I said it 's over you know


I ca n't do everything


tha-


and they 're going to notice that the cooking is different


Well that 's what even **ruthie** says you know


everyone thinks that the economie is so important


but there 's a lot of things that are very important of running the kitchen


and we 'll see


%uh right now Ramon %uh

%uh right now <person>Ramon</person> %uh


you know Cocoa she got married

you know <person>Cocoa</person> she got married


She married that guy


not the Israeli guy not the Sephardic guy but No you 're kidding that little feminine kind of guy

not the <norp>Israeli</norp> guy not the <norp>Sephardic</norp> guy but No you 're kidding that little feminine kind of guy


No


but reme-


when I was there in October she had that guy from Yerushalaim that guy

when I was there in <date>October</date> she had that guy from <gpe>Yerushalaim</gpe> that guy


yeah


820.26_822.65_B: no


but %um it was over already around then


but they were still friends


and this guy was a here or something drawer


I think his family is Romanian or something

I think his family is <norp>Romanian</norp> or something


anyway


it was very fast


and they got married


How old is she ?


She 's eighteen and a half


she 'll be nineteen in December

she 'll be <date>nineteen</date> in <date>December</date>


oh my god


why did they allow that


Well I guess they did n't have a choice


but the worst thing was originally when she came to her parents and she was going to get married she was going to get married in October

but the worst thing was originally when she came to her parents and she was going to get married she was going to get married in <date>October</date>


but she got engaged like before Pesach

but she got engaged like before <event>Pesach</event>


so going to get married in October

so going to get married in <date>October</date>


so they were n't so thrilled


but at least okay it 's %uh


and then all of a sudden they came back and said no we want to get married


they got married the I think oh my g- second week in June

they got married the I think oh my g- <date>second week in June</date>


on kibbutz


yeah


it was beautiful


we do weddings %eh so much nicer than in the old days


first of all we rent tables and chairs


so it 's like


and we did it on the grass outside the


and it was beautiful


we read


that


so she 's like the first child who got married


right


and we rented beautiful china and silverware and glasses


wow


beautiful


I must admit it was really really beautiful


and then serving everything we use like %um all different kinds of bought kind of %um paper plates that


uh-huh


probably like the hard plastic


and it was amazing because they even had like a bar set up


and they had oh my go- fruit


they had hay


and then they had fruit


it was gorgeous


it was absolutely gorgeous


Does she now have to do tzavah or no


no no


but %ah marriage is


you do n't have to do the tzavah


oh my go-


So she 's working now in the vegetarian kitchen and the a little bit


but she 's going to study in September

but she 's going to study in <date>September</date>


so that 's not so long


Does she cover her hair


No


oh I keep


that other guy was real


this one is


I can not bel-


oh this other one 's like from a family that 's not at all


but he


yeah


they went to America for a month after the wedding

they went to <gpe>America</gpe> for <date>a month</date> after the wedding


her grandparents sent them %uh oh my Even though they were mad


you know the typical Ariella story

you know the typical <person>Ariella</person> story


they came for Pesach


and then they told them


they waited to tell them that they got engaged


and the wedding is in June


and they were so angry because how the hell could they come back after years


that 's true


No


so on one hand I understand them


it 's not fair


No of course not


965.04_967.89_B: even they could have called them before Pesach

965.04_967.89_B: even they could have called them before <event>Pesach</event>


maybe they would 've changed their minds


but


wait


yeah


Natan 's sister was here also

<person>Natan</person> 's sister was here also


So they were all upset that the grandparents did n't come back for the wedding


but I do n't know


you have to look at you know both


oh my


I ca n't believe she got married


I


she got married


and then the week after Ta'al Paer got married

and then the week after <person>Ta'al Paer</person> got married


you know Ta'al is the oldest %uh girl on the

you know <person>Ta'al</person> is the oldest %uh girl on the


where is she living


Well her husband he looks like Mickey our Mickey yeah when Mickey was really young

Well her husband he looks like <person>Mickey</person> our <person>Mickey</person> yeah when <person>Mickey</person> was really young


so he looks really young


%uh she just finished now the army


and she met him during the army


he 's from a nonreligious kibbutz


oh my gosh


yeah


So now they 're living on his kibbutz %um because they allow like B'nai to live there

So now they 're living on his kibbutz %um because they allow like <norp>B'nai</norp> to live there


but I do n't know they can work outside yeah do whatever they want until they decide what they want or do what they want


do whatever they want


study


I do n't know what they 're doing


his parents are n't even living on the kibbutz anymore because he 's a professor of something or other in I do n't know China or somewhere

his parents are n't even living on the kibbutz anymore because he 's a professor of something or other in I do n't know <gpe>China</gpe> or somewhere


Singapore


I do n't know where


anyway so that was really weird


like when she got engaged it was a little hard for Rachel because he 's not religious and everyone was really upset

like when she got engaged it was a little hard for <person>Rachel</person> because he 's not religious and everyone was really upset


gosh you would think at least in Israel you would get what you want

gosh you would think at least in <gpe>Israel</gpe> you would get what you want


No


but not only that


what


this kid just left the kibbutz at eighteen

this kid just left the kibbutz at <date>eighteen</date>


and now at nineteen he 's coming back with &uh you know like

and now at <date>nineteen</date> he 's coming back with &uh you know like


He also had a lot of different boyfriends during her lifetime


anyway to make a long story short she had her wedding also


but hers we did like %um a buffet


so I was really nervous about that because when did we ever do a buffet


so we rented the tables and chairs again


and we rented all the beautiful dishes


yeah


But we set up the buffet


we bought like these really neat


you know like they 're


Well we saved them because you can wash them


they 're made out of plastic


but they look like silver trays


uh-huh


So we bought all different shapes and sizes


and we put out the salads and the meats and all different kinds that


we had %um little cocktail hot dogs


and we had chicken legs


and we had schnitzels


oh and they made a beautiful basket with breads you know everything falling out on the table


you know those kind of things


no


wow


No


it was beautiful


it also came out really nice


the only thing


you guys must feel so old that you have married children already


yeah


we do feel old


and it was beautiful


Ramona 's was nicer because they had a great band and everybody was that

<person>Ramona</person> 's was nicer because they had a great band and everybody was that


you know like usually in a wedding there 's no room to dance


but the whole parking lot was for dancing


and on the grass was where we sat


uh-huh


so it was like as if you would 've seen you know dance festival because there was like a circle of men a circle of girls a circle of her friends a circle of his friends because there was enough room the kids had a circle that you could have like five six different circles all over the place


oh my gosh


and Ta'al 's


what happened


you know that Rachel was really worried that people wo n't dance for her be happy for her

you know that <person>Rachel</person> was really worried that people wo n't dance for her be happy for her


I do n't know why


that was ridiculous because everyone was just as happy


but her band they got stuck somewhere


and their %um


something with the electric equipment


it did n't come


so we had to get from us the amplifiers


and ours are terrible


%mm oy


they could n't hear anything


so So some people got really you know


just they did n't dance


and she was really upset


I said Rachel why did you even bother paying them

I said <person>Rachel</person> why did you even bother paying them


Well that 's true


getting this really great group


and even if we would 've known they were stuck so call the kibbutz


we would 've sent the car to go get it


right


oh gosh


so that was bad news


but other than that


so anybody else engaged


not yet


the rest are young


well that whole class that whole first


no


but there was only those two girls Ta'al from the first class

but there was only those <cardinal>two</cardinal> girls <person>Ta'al</person> from the <ordinal>first</ordinal> class


Ramona from the second

<person>Ramona</person> from the <ordinal>second</ordinal>


now these other kids just finished high school


like & 's oldest daughter is going to the army next week or two weeks

like & 's oldest daughter is going to the army <date>next week</date> or <date>two weeks</date>


wow


but does n't she have a son who 's older


yeah


her son is still in the army


uh-huh


but he 's not engaged yet


I think boys wait a little longer


mhm


yeah maybe


Is Liat still going with that guy ?

Is <person>Liat</person> still going with that guy ?


Unbelievable .


things are g-


%eh %eh thank God


really very very happy .


Very nice .


great


what 's with you ?


%uh , let 's see ,


well I 'm still hanging out at Westinghouse .

well I 'm still hanging out at <org>Westinghouse</org> .


yeah .


I have your hat .


I wear your hat all the time .


oh goo-


I thought you know it 's a good hat man .


I sent that to you with all %uh good intents .


I hope you appreciate it .


I do .


I wear it all the time .


okay .


%uh %uh I hope I have %um a picture of myself when I %uh had reserves . you know the other month .


uh-huh .


I took a picture %uh with me


and I hope it comes out .


I 'll send it to you .


Thank you very much .


%um


If it does n't I 'll take another picture .


Let 's see %uh


Go ahead .


Well I 'm still working there you know


and %uh I 'm on a pretty good project .


Right .


a long term %uh next generation %uh fighter plane .


Really ?


So that 's %uh kind of good experience I guess .


And %uh Westinghouse supposedly is making a bid to buy the %uh C B S broadcasting network .

And %uh <org>Westinghouse</org> supposedly is making a bid to buy the %uh C B S broadcasting network .


I thought they bought them already .


Well , you know , it takes months to close a deal


so there 's -- %ah . -- lots of speculation -- Right . -- that they 'll have to sell the %uh electronics division in order to do that .


and what would happen with you ?


I guess we 'd be sold to another company and see what happens .


I do n't know .


mhm .


I 'm not too concerned about it though


but it 's a possibility .


But you have a senior position there .


Well , I suppose so .


But , you know . They do n't really think of it that way


they just look at the numbers how many people they want and how many people they have .


It 's just a business .


Right .


they just get rid of what they do n't want .


uh-huh .


But %uh that 's still going pretty well .


%huh


nothing really new with the house or anything


We 've had some interesting incidents with wasps that have %uh been invading the neighborhood .


they built a nest in my rafters of my house and busted through .


But I told you about that , I think .


I got a in the mail .


yeah .


So that


Well I wanted to ask you what 's with the school ?


The schools are extremely expensive .


I 'm going broke basically doing that .


And I do n't know how to %uh handle that .


But how come they do n't help you ?


It does n't make a difference .


you 're still going to go broke whether they help you or not .


They 're not going to let you run a profit when you 're on scholarship .


if you have two thousand dollars at the end of the year they 're not going to say oh well %uh I guess you can have that .

if you have <money>two thousand dollars</money> at <date>the end of the year</date> they 're not going to say oh well %uh I guess you can have that .


They 're going to make you pay everything .


Wait a minute


I 'm talking about


wait


wait fir-


I 'm talking about your schooling .


My schooling ?


I thought you meant the kids ' school .


yeah .


I do n't know .


I put it on hold all the time .


took a course last semester


I have n't signed up yet for the fall


It 's a lot of stress .


trying to


you know you put out a lot of money


and you have to work really hard to get it back .


Right .


there 's not necessarily any benefit to it either .


So


%hm .


sorry I was talking about the kids ' school .


Right


the kids . yeah


R J told me how much -- yeah . -- it costs .


But meanwhile -- It 's a lot of money . -- she does n't know how much you pay .


I do n't know why that is .


I think what we pay


%um %mm we have to %uh


%uh for two kids it cost about two hundred dollars apiece .

%uh for <cardinal>two</cardinal> kids it cost about two hundred dollars apiece .


uh-huh ?


And then for %um the taxes and everything else maybe if it costs %uh a year %um maybe %uh seven hundred dollars a kid .

And then for %um the taxes and everything else maybe if it costs %uh a year %um maybe %uh <money>seven hundred dollars</money> a kid .


okay .


That 's total everything .


Pretty much .


yeah .


So we 're paying about eight times that .

So we 're paying about <cardinal>eight</cardinal> times that .


No about five times that .

No about <cardinal>five</cardinal> times that .


yeah


five times that


No , actually , %ah we 're paying six times that .

No , actually , %ah we 're paying <cardinal>six</cardinal> times that .


I 'm paying four thousand two hundred dollars a kid . %uh Or more .

I 'm paying <money>four thousand two hundred dollars</money> a kid . %uh Or more .


Right .


But then you could also look into the other part . the tax bracket


here f- %uh


forty - five


forty - five , actually with all the other taxes that are going on here

<cardinal>forty - five</cardinal> , actually with all the other taxes that are going on here


the first job %uh I pay forty - five percent -- mhm . -- my salary .

the <ordinal>first</ordinal> job %uh I pay <percent>forty - five percent</percent> -- mhm . -- my salary .


It goes to taxes .


And then with all of my second job , it already comes out to fifty - five percent of that .

And then with all of my second job , it already comes out to <percent>fifty - five percent</percent> of that .


%mm %mm %mm .


Plus the taxes .


Unbelievable .


That 's incredible .


I remember I got the first paycheck

I remember I got the <ordinal>first</ordinal> paycheck


yeah


I pretty much knew that 's what the statistics were .


As soon as you get the paycheck and you see the before tax income and you say wow finally you 're able to get up to a decent number and then you look at the bottom


and you say what is this .


You put it into your little pocket calculator --


-- you say they 're taking fifty - five percent

-- you say they 're taking <percent>fifty - five percent</percent>


says fifty - five percent .

says <percent>fifty - five percent</percent> .


I say what country -- -- in their right mind takes fif-


what about %eh trying to encourage the populace to go to work and to save more , to earn more .


%uh they do n't care .


But you still like it there ?


Fifty - five


But yo-


yeah ,


because you 're able


You 're still


%hm ?


It 's great .


We enjoy it .


The kids are happy .


Having a wonderful time .


yeah .


And %um even with all the political nonsense that goes on here you still feel that we 're %uh %uh building the place in a very small way .


And also the community .


we love it here .


Well I 'm sure you do .


It 's a great community .


It 's a nice place .


It 's a very nice place .


And I spoke to someone the other day %uh %uh about you .


oh yeah ?


Plenty of jobs .


Are you serious ?


Because you know what the problem is


there 's a guy who 's working with me now who 's an Israeli

there 's a guy who 's working with me now who 's an <norp>Israeli</norp>


and he 's active .


Do n't believe them .


What are they all liars ?


I mean , what 's the story here ?


You 're i-


Yes .


First of all , Israeli who is living in America -- yeah . -- has to justify himself .

<ordinal>First</ordinal> of all , <norp>Israeli</norp> who is living in <gpe>America</gpe> -- yeah . -- has to justify himself .


So that 's what he 's going to do .


I suppose so


because man he 's just like one thing after the next .


you 're into software , right ?


yeah .


You know that guy Gordon %uh Go-

You know that guy <person>Gordon</person> %uh Go-


%uh %uh I do n't want to mention his name .


David Gordon ?


No .


oh


oh I know


the other guy who au-


Right


yeah


the


Ri-


mhm


That he said there 's absolutely no problem .


No problem .


%hm %hm .


He said any kind of job at a very very high salary . %uh with %uh the experience that %uh you have is absolutely no problem .


yeah ,


so what am I waiting for ?


Do you be b-


%huh ?


So what am I waiting for ?


Where does he live ,


in your community ?


yeah .


You still building


there 's no housing available though there ?


%uh , housing is %uh right now %uh %uh %uh rentals .


Only rentals ?


I would n't %uh ren-


%uh you could buy


but I would n't suggest it right now .


But they have rentals ?


And what do they rent it at ?


You want to ge- %ah %ah %ah


let 's see


you can get a-


Just a ex-


For %uh a %uh nice apartment you can


house like my size is


the house I have -- mhm . -- would go for about five hundred dollars %uh five fifty a month .

the house I have -- mhm . -- would go for <money>about five hundred dollars</money> %uh <cardinal>five fifty</cardinal> a month .


Wow that 's great .


Right .


So you can work down to a small apartment yeah %um which wo- %um probably go for about %uh three %uh hundred and fifty dollars .

So you can work down to a small apartment yeah %um which wo- %um probably go for about %uh <money>three %uh hundred and fifty dollars</money> .


and where are most of these jobs located ?


%uh


Some of these Hertzolia


Hertzolia


yeah .


That 's not so bad .


Right


Tel Aviv Hertzolia


Even now they opened up a lot of new roads now they were building since you were here .


uh-huh


But %ah they were building while you were here .


%um and you can also


Audrey said she got to Tel Aviv the other day in like forty - five minutes

<person>Audrey</person> said she got to <gpe>Tel Aviv</gpe> the other day in like <time>forty - five minutes</time>


Wow . With the traffic and everything ?


with yeah the traffic


there was no traffic until she got right there to %uh yeah Tel Aviv

there was no traffic until she got right there to %uh yeah <gpe>Tel Aviv</gpe>


%mm %mm %mm


So yeah


it 's a


But you 're talking about jobs in good places , good solid companies developing companies who %um


the thing just for the fun of it then %uh


You know how I feel that


yeah


little Liz has her own reasons for you know being in America .

little <person>Liz</person> has her own reasons for you know being in <gpe>America</gpe> .


You should feel comfortable staying there ,


just for the fun %uh %ah send me %uh %ah a resume


okay . I 'll do that .


And I 'll just pass it on just to get an idea of how much you may be able to make .


That sounds okay


yeah .


I think that 's a excellent idea .


%um , I know your wife does n't believe me


but %uh we think about you guys like continuously .


and it really %uh makes my heart ache .


But %uh


until like you find something that is n't stressful and not boring .


that 's the main two combinations right ?

that 's the main <cardinal>two</cardinal> combinations right ?


Not stressful and not boring


Well it 's like I have no problems with secretarial work


okay that 's what fitted in to that category because if you are a busy enough secretary you know %eh %mm . you do n't get bored because you are always doing something different


and if your employer is a relatively decent human being you know two if's there

and if your employer is a relatively decent human being you know <cardinal>two</cardinal> if's there


mhm .


but you get no respect


I mean oh you 're a secretary


and the pay is pretty crummy


well it 's pretty much the same as what I 'm getting you know %um depending upon where you work and all


but you know it 's like that 's no answer either


so I 've just been toying with this idea of going back to school and getting a computer science degree so I can always be gainfully employed .


But anyway ,


and you can think about that pregnancy thing


oh yeah


that pregnancy thing


yeah


that


do the


Maybe there 's your hormones calling .


well no


the funny thing is it 's like ten years ago I would 've said oh yeah that was what I really wanted to be doing is having a baby you know


but like at this point in time it 's kind of like we 're going to do it because if we do n't do it %uh %eh you know in the next year or two we 'd regret it you know

but like at this point in time it 's kind of like we 're going to do it because if we do n't do it %uh %eh you know <date>in the next year</date> or <cardinal>two</cardinal> we 'd regret it you know


we figure it 's something we 'd want to do


it 's not like we 're doing it because we have to do it or there 's peer pressure


or well a %mm little peer pressure


oh no no no


I know exactly where you 're at because I think about that too


I got about like six or seven years

I got about like <cardinal>six</cardinal> or <date>seven years</date>


I figure my body is a very slow %um yeah **maturer**


you know what I mean


like I did n't get my period until I was sixteen

like I did n't get my period until I was <date>sixteen</date>


I mean I look like about %uh %uh at least five or six years younger than I actually am

I mean I look like about %uh %uh at least <cardinal>five</cardinal> or <date>six years</date> younger than I actually am


-- and I 'm just starting to get my period actually now -- yeah yeah as an adult .


So I kind of figure well I 'm probably good until at least some time in the early forties

So I kind of figure well I 'm probably good until at least some time in <date>the early forties</date>


and I could probably go a little longer than that


I know there 's a risk and all that bullshit


yeah .


but %um yeah I think about that too because it 's like I mean I kind of like the way things are going in the total lack of responsibility .


I know


well I mean that 's the thing


kids are cute and all that


and we %mm slept until noon

and we %mm slept until <time>noon</time>


we got up about ten and was like oh we have to get out of bed played with the cats fell back to sleep

we got up <time>about ten</time> and was like oh we have to get out of bed played with the cats fell back to sleep


okay I mean we 're talking total slackers


%mm


and I thought gee you know if we had a kid we could n't do this you know


and


No


you got to be focused on that


and I mean there 's a lots of other things that


I mean as far as like living situation I was feeling kind of settled you know like -- Right . I 'm not going to be like traipsing around


but I mean I could say that for the next five or even eight or maybe -- yeah . -- ten years alright

but I mean I could say that for the next <cardinal>five</cardinal> or even <cardinal>eight</cardinal> or maybe -- yeah . -- <date>ten years</date> alright


even if I could project that far which I really ca n't


yeah


but I mean you got a kid you ca n't do fucking ten years w- --

but I mean you got a kid you ca n't do fucking <date>ten years</date> w- --


I know .


-- it 's like cool I think I 'll go off to the Orient and start like bouncing from country country .

-- it 's like cool I think I 'll go off to the <loc>Orient</loc> and start like bouncing from country country .


I know


well and I mean okay Emory wants to get his doctorate

well and I mean okay <person>Emory</person> wants to get his doctorate


so we 'll know next Spring if he can get at least accepted into the program which hopefully -- %mm . -- you know


and then there 's four or five years doing the damn work

and then there 's <cardinal>four</cardinal> or <date>five years</date> doing the damn work


and %mm . He 's crazy


he wants it


that 's fine


he can do it


no problem


but %um that sort of ties us up here although we like the place


we 're in no hurry to leave it


yeah .


and that would be good


But then you know what if he could get a position overseas again which is something both of us have said would be pretty darn good because -- %mm . -- %um you know after coming back from Spain from those two and half years it was n't so much an adjustment to the way things were

But then you know what if he could get a position overseas again which is something both of us have said would be pretty darn good because -- %mm . -- %um you know after coming back from Spain from <date>those two and half years</date> it was n't so much an adjustment to the way things were


it 's just asking the question gee do we really like %um the way things are over here with the lifestyle the nine to five kind of thing

it 's just asking the question gee do we really like %um the way things are over here with the lifestyle the <cardinal>nine</cardinal> to <cardinal>five</cardinal> kind of thing


I mean I 'm really in the nine to five thing more so than he is

I mean I 'm really in the <cardinal>nine</cardinal> to <cardinal>five</cardinal> thing more so than he is


you know he should be there by oh oh well let 's say eight thirty to nine

you know he should be there by oh oh well let 's say <time>eight thirty</time> to <time>nine</time>


but yeah


he does n't care when


well okay


%um and his professor is obviously %uh %uh a great person to work for


so I 'm envious


but %um whatever


you know I 'm caught up %mm . -- in it


and I do n't like it you know


too many days I 'm working and eating at my desk at about twelve o'clock

too many days I 'm working and eating at my desk at <time>about twelve o'clock</time>


and I 'm thinking %mm . This is crazy you know


in Spain %uh we had this break

in <gpe>Spain</gpe> %uh we had this break


and you sat


you talked to people you know


you enjoyed your food


you relaxed -- %mm . -- you know


and it 's a fairly productive nation right you know


What 's going on here ?


yeah


I mean they both have the advantages and disadvantages


what you have to do is concentrate on the advantages in what ever place you 're in -- mhm -- and think about the disadvantages of the place that you 're not in .


Otherwise you go nuts right ?


That 's true ,


yeah .


I know Laura tried to


%uh because we have email and so she sent me a letter back saying you know remember how crowded the transportation is and %uh what else -- %mm . how expensive everything is


and %uh you know I remember those things of course you know --


And work you know possibilities were a lot more limited


True .


and the language you know yeah . constantly like kind of


like I mean those could be considered positive things as well


but I mean you mind as well think of them in a negative vie- rather than


mhm sure


They just like worrying over them .


Well you know and that 's why it helps to have kind of a glimpse into the future right ?


And that 's how we got to -- %mm . -- Spain in the first place is we said we wanted to live abroad and we would try to do it you know as teachers

And that 's how we got to -- %mm . -- <gpe>Spain</gpe> in the <ordinal>first</ordinal> place is we said we wanted to live abroad and we would try to do it you know as teachers


and it turned out that way because -- %mm . -- we had this idea of


and I really feel that that 's important


and so what I 'm having an idea of now is


okay you know Emory works on his doctorate

okay you know <person>Emory</person> works on his doctorate


it takes about five or six years

it takes about <cardinal>five</cardinal> or <date>six years</date>


we have the kid probably


he gets a research position somewhere in France or in Spain %um

he gets a research position somewhere in <gpe>France</gpe> or in <gpe>Spain</gpe> %um


and then we move over there


and you know I take care of the kid and do some you know little day labor whatever you know


we 'll see


%mm .


%um and we have relatively mellow life for who knows five or ten years

%um and we have relatively mellow life for who knows <cardinal>five</cardinal> or <date>ten years</date>


and then we take it from there .


yeah


because even like you know I mean all that stuff right is all so subject to whatever change in the weather that happens to be right ?


mhm .


oh I know


I know


and it 's like you know what I think because I get the same as you


like some days it 's just kind of like you know what the hell am I doing not with my life but ge-


but I mean just like where do I get the animal just you know to do anything you know


I just lay in bed and dream for the whole day easily


I know .


Well I know


I know what you 're saying


I feel there 's sort of a line to cross too between really planning it out and worry and stressing over it because for a while a couple months back there I was thinking in terms of oh gosh you know can we ever afford a house


and then we sat down and sort of looked at it financially and said is this what we really want to be worrying about right now


and you know I realize no


yeah absolutely .


and so you know you can sort of focus too much on the future


or I know I have this tendency to do that .


And miss the present completely


I mean miss like you know the smell of the goddamn onions frying in the pan yeah . yeah yeah . you know and each little


I mean it 's like as far as I 'm concerned there 's like no pleasure that 's as intense as the one that you are experiencing at that moment you know


you can think about what something might be like or reminisce about the past


but like when you 're there in that moment it 's


I mean everything else just kind of like


it 's almost like time does n't exist . yeah . You know


yeah


Well I know one of the best moments I can recall in these past two months is

Well I know one of the best moments I can recall in <date>these past two months</date> is


okay I get to work a little bit late which is common


and they do n't really care since I 'm an hourly you know


you have to be within a certain time frame


%mm .


and so everyone else is parked .


I 'm way out there in the parking lot closer to where the trees are


and you know I close the door


I just take a deep breath as I go okay another day


and I hear the birds singing --


yeah .


and I just stop for a minute and listen to the birds


and it sort of cheers me up


you know I realize what a minute okay


in that nasty sterile office where the windows do n't even open --


%eh %um I will be for the next eight hours or so

%eh %um I will be for the <time>next eight hours</time> or so


but out here there still is some life going on


and just sort of cheers me up to know that


okay


I can come back to it you know


So that 's


yeah


in that moment I mean nobody is going to like interfere with that at all .


There you are you and the birds you know


yup


hey we can find good Spanish wine over here speaking of the moment you know

hey we can find good <norp>Spanish</norp> wine over here speaking of the moment you know


oh yeah


And every once in a while you know I can remember just being back %um with people or eating some place you know in Barcelona

And every once in a while you know I can remember just being back %um with people or eating some place you know in <gpe>Barcelona</gpe>


and %uh so it brings me back


but


I still have n't gone to that fresh French restaurant by your house

I still have n't gone to that fresh <norp>French</norp> restaurant by your house


%um


I 'm like dying to go there


You mean the one right next to the apartment


yeah yeah yeah


Well it 's not French


it 's just gourmet


it 's gourmet catalon --


oh it 's not


oh I thought it was Fre-


%ah really


yeah yeah


Well even better .


save it for a special occasion you know


and you know you might need a reservation too


yeah %um


yeah


I will


I should have some visitors


and my family 's planning on coming this summer


so I 'll take them there and this fondue place I wanted to take them to also .


Is the one over in Gracia that

Is the one over in <gpe>Gracia</gpe> that


it 's kind of on a corner I think


I think I


%uh


no


there 's a couple places in Gracia that I 've been going to

there 's a couple places in <gpe>Gracia</gpe> that I 've been going to


uh-huh .


But %uh there 's one in the %um Bario Gottigo

But %uh there 's one in the %um <loc>Bario Gottigo</loc>


actually it 's on the other side of Leotana %huh . Like down over by the Bornillo

actually it 's on the other side of <gpe>Leotana</gpe> %huh . Like down over by the Bornillo


okay .


And I 've only eaten there once alright


but I 've been in a million times because every time I pass with somebody I have to show them the place .


Actually you know I know where I 'm going to go


I have a friend my friend from England

I have a friend my friend from <gpe>England</gpe>


I do n't remember if I told you about her


she 's my old %um roommate mhm . From Oviato

she 's my old %um roommate mhm . From <gpe>Oviato</gpe>


and she 's coming


she got a job down here


she 's coming on Friday to live

she 's coming on <date>Friday</date> to live


mhm


And %ah I


this is like the perfect


because when we lived in Oviato we used to go to this fondue place all the time

because when we lived in <gpe>Oviato</gpe> we used to go to this fondue place all the time


that would be the perfect place to take her when she gets her .


yeah


well I 'm glad to hear that you got a job that you like and %uh %um think that you were able to stay


I was a little bit worried at first you know when you got back there because the money would run out probably in April or so

I was a little bit worried at first you know when you got back there because the money would run out probably in <date>April</date> or so


and you know


And I mean I knew I would get a job


and after I just stopped thinking about it I just thought well fuck it


I am going


it 's like inevitable


and I want something


I have to get something


and I will


uh-huh


%um %huh


But I just thought that you know I 'll get a job


and at this point if I get desperate I 'll just have to take anything


yeah .


And the fact that I like kind of fell into something that 's Fairly sweet


I mean %eh in the beginning everything kind of starts out nice


but I 'm changing my attitude to the point where I 'm not going to get stressed out about it too much .


I 'm not going to try to change anything


Good


I 'm going to go in there


I 'm going to do a nice job


I 'm going to have a good time uh-huh . you know


and I 'm not going to


I mean it 's not the same


I 'm either


like from working with kids


I mean that was like you know my career for like eight years

I mean that was like you know my career for <date>like eight years</date>


mhm .


But this is you know more like


it 's nice


it 's really nice


Well and you can always go back to that if you wanted to you know working at least in the States


or maybe eventually once you have your residency yeah you can work in some place in Spain too with l- %ah

or maybe eventually once you have your residency yeah you can work in some place in <gpe>Spain</gpe> too with l- %ah


yeah


yeah ,


I do n't have a big draw for it right now


if anything like I 've always wanted to have like a bar or a restaurant


I mean it takes tons of money


me too


well


But like I 'd love to


That 's why I want to win the lottery first though Or to have enough background money to set that kind of thing up


but %um well


well %um good


and so you 're probably not going to come back Christmas which is cool

and so you 're probably not going to come back <event>Christmas</event> which is cool


Emory was telling me that


so


and I probably wo n't


%eh %eh if there 's anything that you think we should be %um working for let us know


oh I do n't know


I do n't know


it 's too difficult


%uh the thing with the Golan to give it back not to give it back I do n't know

%uh the thing with the <loc>Golan</loc> to give it back not to give it back I do n't know


everybody has a different opinion


we 've got cousins living there


beautiful beautiful home


and


yeah


one half their mind is thinking should they pack the suitcases


and the other half is should we add on another room for the new baby you know


%eh it 's awful


it 's a crazy crazy


it is


Well what can you do


it 's a terrible thing


I spoke to your mother in May because I wanted to know if you were coming or one of the kids are coming out

I spoke to your mother in <date>May</date> because I wanted to know if you were coming or <cardinal>one</cardinal> of the kids are coming out


No


I did n't yet


I had a summer job


I worked


well I just finished work yesterday


it was a nine week course


it started in July and ended yesterday

it started in <date>July</date> and ended <date>yesterday</date>


she said


yeah


oh oh nice


Now I have a month 's vacation for Rosh Hashanah and everything

Now I have a month 's vacation for <event>Rosh Hashanah</event> and everything


and after Sukkoth we start our new class

and after <event>Sukkoth</event> we start our new class


so oh very good yeah that 's a good idea My summer vacation starts now


oh that 's good


So yeah


I have about a month off


that 's good


%eh it 's not too late that I called


No no no no not at all %eh


oh good


Good


there 's something else I was in the middle


and I meant to do it weeks a-


I 'm sending a big information and letter to Simon Perez yeah because I heard him say on the radio weeks ago yeah that I mea-

I 'm sending a big information and letter to <person>Simon Perez</person> yeah because I heard him say on the radio weeks ago yeah that I mea-


I do n't know if I should really say this


you know it 's really nothing


but


oh well were being


no no


Well maybe it 's politics


maybe we should n't talk politics


%uh it 's environmental politics


it 's not %uh politics though


%um he said that Is- Israel is such a highly I knew that I do n't know I %uh advanced technical country that if there 's something good they 're going to use it

%um he said that Is- <gpe>Israel</gpe> is such a highly I knew that I do n't know I %uh advanced technical country that if there 's something good they 're going to use it


and he mentioned the hormones for the milk yeah oh yeah that was a big thing he- no there was a big thing here about the milk that they put silicon in the milk here or something there was a big thing where they were


it 's hormones to make the cows give more


oh oh oh no


that 's something different


yes


and it 's terrible


it 's a terrible horrible thing


yeah


when he says we 'll use it you know my heart went down to the floor because we 're fighting here oh I did n't hear that very much against it because it 's such a bad thing


against


I did n't hear that


It makes the cows sick


you get all the bacteria


you get the sickness


and


oh jeez I did n't know


I did n't even know that here


and now I 'm not going to drink the milk over here


No no no


I do n't know if they 're using it yet


I do n't know if they are


but it would n't be bad tha-


they 're called growth hormone


I know


I 've heard


I think they do that to the chickens


I hear they do the chickens


they want the


yeah


oh they do it here you know


it 's ap-


I 'm getting into a subject which I really did n't intend


but in Canada they wo n't do it

but in <gpe>Canada</gpe> they wo n't do it


no no


Well a lot of people do n't eat meat anymore because of you know all these objections and all


they 've stopped %uh


it 's true


it


Israelis do n't eat that much meat anyway

<gpe>Israelis</gpe> do n't eat that much meat anyway


it 's more we eat fruit vegetables an- yeah yeah stuff


nobody really eats steaks anymore


like I grew up on steaks all the time from Sam 's Supermarket you know all the

like I grew up on steaks all the time from <org>Sam 's Supermarket</org> you know all the


from Sam 's Supermark-


uh-huh


jeez %uh the last time he had a steak was I do n't know months ago


we do n't even eat steaks anymore


but duh %eh in America too they do n't eat as much do they

but duh %eh in <gpe>America</gpe> too they do n't eat as much do they


%uh no


because for heart the fat is supposed by very bad


yes


Hello


oh yeah


yeah


you said people are not


no


the red meat is suffering I guess


I noticed that last time I was home


but I do n't eat any either


so


I know it 's not a good idea


I


but Canada does n't use that junk


I mean and they tell us I think Europe wo n't buy from us because they do n't want the hormones with stuff in it

I mean and they tell us I think <gpe>Europe</gpe> wo n't buy from us because they do n't want the hormones with stuff in it


I know


it 's %uh


but we 're using it naturally


Well


so everything you kn-


I tell you it breaks my heart when I see them following that


they think everything is so wonderful


if there 's some


yeah


they take the good and the bad all the


and that 's t-


oh it 's pitiful


that makes me very very sad


you know oh it 's %eh


very sad


and even the Russians they come over

and even the <norp>Russians</norp> they come over


and I know I can see the attitude %ah well that of course they know for ins-


he 's working in a neighborhood association like on funds


on grants


he does a wonderful job


and they help him


oh I think he was n't working when Holly was here

oh I think he was n't working when <person>Holly</person> was here


I think he was n't working


he was n't working over yeah oh that 's good that he three and half years

he was n't working over yeah oh that 's good that he <date>three and half years</date>


but this is parttime


but it 's very involving


it 's very exciting


oh that 's nice


and I thought that the people line up to see him


and it 's about getting help with housing and food stamps and everything


yeah


and a lady said you know my husband died and old lady


I said oh I 'm sorry


she says I really thought United States that you do n't die you know

she says I really thought <gpe>United States</gpe> that you do n't die you know


and I knew that underlying it they really believe that because if it 's so wonderful


they know everyone dies


but underneath they feel maybe you do n't die until you 're very very old


but they do n't believe that so many people die in the United States because it 's so wonderful

but they do n't believe that so many people die in <gpe>the United States</gpe> because it 's so wonderful


oh wow I do n't know where they got that idea from


but you see how it is


jeez


so everybody has these wrong conceptions


I know


I know %eh


%eh %uh it 's %uh pitiful


but


oh well


yeah


I 'm su-


Holly is %uh busy with all her No that 's good now that 's nice cook things


and she 's going to teach


she had a good time sure


she 'll come back and visit and all


she had a good


oh she 's lost too


oh she misses right now %eh %eh for Rosh Hashanah

oh she misses right now %eh %eh for <event>Rosh Hashanah</event>


yes


she says oh on the kibbutz everybody would go out and have the meal under the stars together the first night


they have th-


that 's right


and you know it 's just


so she misses


well you know %uh you know it 's like New Year 's %uh

well you know %uh you know it 's like <event>New Year 's</event> %uh


everything is closed and all in America

everything is closed and all in <gpe>America</gpe>


you do n't feel the holidays because everybody 's busy doing


and here


it 's not Israel although in


Well you live in a very Jewish sec-

Well you live in a very <norp>Jewish</norp> sec-


I 'm wi-


yeah


here you do


you see him


So it 's different


but in Hudson oh we used to have to miss school

but in <gpe>Hudson</gpe> oh we used to have to miss school


and the teachers used to give us tests on those days just to be mean


and we used to miss the tests and everything


and


I know


Passover time we used to be embarrassed bringing matzos to school and everything

<event>Passover</event> time we used to be embarrassed bringing matzos to school and everything


and here I mean You know they do n't know any of those feelings at all you know


it 's th-


it 's very different


so


is it something you know you remember Fred Allen and Irene ?

is it something you know you remember <person>Fred Allen</person> and Irene ?


no I do n't


%uh they 're just names to me really


I 'm sorry


but they 're just names to me


I do n't know them


yeah


oh because you were %ah you know


they had a farm when they were first married which was like nineteen forty eight

they had a farm when they were first married which was like <date>nineteen forty eight</date>


yeah ?


and then they moved away


hello


%uh oh


I 'm here


So I think I still got five or ten minutes here as far as I know

So I think I still got <cardinal>five</cardinal> or <time>ten minutes</time> here as far as I know


I 'm looking at my


Are you timed


or


Well keep talking until we hang up


it 's nice talking to you


%um


So what about the Allens ?

So what about the <person>Allens</person> ?


then they moved away to Middletown

then they moved away to <gpe>Middletown</gpe>


he was in the girls '


do you remember the girls ' reformatory in Hudson

do you remember the girls ' reformatory in <gpe>Hudson</gpe>


yeah


It was right across the street from my Aunt Seal 's house

It was right across the street from my Aunt <person>Seal</person> 's house


oh she lived there ?


On Worth Avenue I th-


She did on Wor-


yeah like Bessie lived on Worth Avenue

yeah like <person>Bessie</person> lived on <loc>Worth Avenue</loc>


%um well it was %um my Uncle Ralph 's

%um well it was %um my Uncle <person>Ralph</person> 's


it was my father 's %eh you know half brother


right


I remember


Mitnics the Mitnics


yes


Well what about the Allens

Well what about the <person>Allens</person>


what was their connection to that


Well so originally he had come back from the army


they got married


he graduated Cornell agricultural

he graduated <org>Cornell</org> agricultural


had to be a farmer


so about maybe two three years I do n't know how many years they had a dairy farm

so about maybe <cardinal>two</cardinal> <date>three years</date> I do n't know how many years they had a dairy farm


and you know how rough


they were slaves


they could n't go anywhere do anything


yeah


they had to stay on the farm because it 's a small you know


I did n't know any of this


but that 's a lot like you


you 're much younger than me


I was born in fifty

I was born in <cardinal>fifty</cardinal>


oh so you 're much