Uh this was brought up by another media station here on the island that uh made claim to that /.


but I can to assure /.


Alright /.


It 's not true /.


We 'll move on /.


Yes /.


Um uh Harold finally this landfill /.

Um uh <person>Harold</person> finally this landfill /.


Uh are you hopeful uh that EquuSearch is going to find something /?

Uh are you hopeful uh that <org>EquuSearch</org> is going to find something /?


How credible do you think that witness is who says that he saw three men dumping what looked like a blonde body /?

How credible do you think that witness is who says that he saw <cardinal>three</cardinal> men dumping what looked like a blonde body /?


Well uh as a retired FBI agent I 'm always hopeful for an outcome /.

Well uh as a retired <org>FBI</org> agent I 'm always hopeful for an outcome /.


Uh we interviewed the individual at length /.


and having experienced hundreds if not thousands of interviews during my thirty - one years uh this guy was very uh online /.

and having experienced <cardinal>hundreds</cardinal> if not <cardinal>thousands</cardinal> of interviews during my <date>thirty - one years</date> uh this guy was very uh online /.


He did n't go mm ah /.


I mean he was like telling a story /.


and it did n't appear to me at all like he was coached or practiced /.


Mhm /.


He just told a story uh from the beginning to the end /.


and I believe him /.


I think there was something there /.


if there is the body , whether it 's still there is another story /.


There has been uh a period of time since then /.


and it could have been removed again /.


But uh his story I think is credible /.


We also had a /-


TJ /.


Sorry go ahead /.


finish up Harold /.


No go ahead /.


I was just going to a- /-


I 'm out of time /.


I was going to ask TJ bottom line do you think that you 're going to be able to crack the case in the next uh couple weeks /?

I was going to ask <person>TJ</person> bottom line do you think that you 're going to be able to crack the case in <date>the next uh couple weeks</date> /?


Well it depends /.


I believe that law enforcement uh since the FBI 's been here has been working very credibly /.

I believe that law enforcement uh since the <org>FBI</org> 's been here has been working very credibly /.


Mhm /.


And uh I believe that they have something um that 's probably solid enough and hopeful uh come September fourth that Joran Van Sloot will stay where he 's positioned right now /.

And uh I believe that they have something um that 's probably solid enough and hopeful uh come <date>September fourth</date> that <person>Joran Van Sloot</person> will stay where he 's positioned right now /.


and that there 'll be additional arrests in this matter from uh parties and individuals that waited we already know that are possibly involved in this disappearance /.


Alright /.


TJ Ward and Harold Phipps thanks a lot guys for taking the time /.

<person>TJ Ward</person> and <person>Harold Phipps</person> thanks a lot guys for taking the time /.


Really appreciate it /.


Coming up two former jurors in the Michael Jackson case writing tell - all books about the case /.

Coming up <cardinal>two</cardinal> former jurors in the <person>Michael Jackson</person> case writing tell - all books about the case /.


They now apparently say Jackson is guilty /.

They now apparently say <person>Jackson</person> is guilty /.


and they 're apparently saying that they broke all kinds of rules in the jury room sneaking in tapes of news reports /.


An insider on the new books joins me next /.


And it 's been a month since this man went missing on a honeymoon on a Mediterranean cruise /.

And it 's been <date>a month</date> since this man went missing on a honeymoon on a <loc>Mediterranean</loc> cruise /.


Police now looking into three men who might 've had something to do with his disappearance /.

Police now looking into <cardinal>three</cardinal> men who might 've had something to do with his disappearance /.


maybe foul play /.


And our weeklong series Manhunt Sex Offenders on the Loose wraps up tonight /.

And our <date>weeklong</date> series <work_of_art>Manhunt Sex Offenders on the Loose</work_of_art> wraps up <time>tonight</time> /.


We 're trying to get these guys before they strike again /.


We 'll check in with Erin Runnion five year old daughter Samantha raped and killed by a sex offender /.

We 'll check in with <person>Erin Runnion</person> <date>five year old</date> daughter <person>Samantha</person> raped and killed by a sex offender /.


Your email abrams report at MSNBC dot com /.


Please include your name where you 're writing from /.


I respond at the end of the show /.


New York Daily News today reports that jurors are saying there were all sorts of shannanigans going on in the jury room at the Michael Jackson case , that a juror wanted to convict Jackson smuggled in a medical dictionary to prove Jackson fits the definition of a pedophile /.

<org>New York Daily News</org> <date>today</date> reports that jurors are saying there were all sorts of shannanigans going on in the jury room at the <person>Michael Jackson</person> case , that a juror wanted to convict <person>Jackson</person> smuggled in a medical dictionary to prove <person>Jackson</person> fits the definition of a pedophile /.


She was later she says intimidated into changing her vote to not guilty /.


Same juror we told you about yesterday Eleanor Cook who 's reportedly writing a tell - all book titled Guilty as Sin Free as a Bird /.

Same juror we told you about <date>yesterday</date> <person>Eleanor Cook</person> who 's reportedly writing a tell - all book titled <work_of_art>Guilty as Sin Free as a Bird</work_of_art> /.


News also reports another allegation that quote another juror sneaked a forbidden video of Court TV broadcast featuring the prosecution friendly Dianne Dimond and Nancy Grace to the jury room but a faulty VCR prevented a sneak peak /.

News also reports another allegation that quote another juror sneaked a forbidden video of <org>Court TV</org> broadcast featuring the prosecution friendly <person>Dianne Dimond</person> and <person>Nancy Grace</person> to the jury room but a faulty VCR prevented a sneak peak /.


And then a quote gang of three female jurors were such rabid Jackson fans that they cooed not my Michael when the panel discussed the felony charges against the pop idol /.

And then a quote gang of <cardinal>three</cardinal> female jurors were such rabid <person>Jackson</person> fans that they cooed not my <person>Michael</person> when the panel discussed the felony charges against the pop idol /.


Yikes /.


Stacy Brown MSNBC analyst author of Michael Jackson the Man Behind the Mask and a name who keeps popping up with all these books /.

<person>Stacy Brown</person> <org>MSNBC</org> analyst author of <work_of_art>Michael Jackson the Man Behind the Mask</work_of_art> and a name who keeps popping up with all these books /.


Stacy are you writing any of these books first of all /?

<person>Stacy</person> are you writing any of these books <ordinal>first</ordinal> of all /?


No I 'm not /.


Alright /.


But you actually talked to these jurors about writing a book /.


That 's correct /.


and you were approached alright /.


I was approached /.


And so they are saying the things that the Daily News reports , are they not /?

And so they are saying the things that <org>the Daily News</org> reports , are they not /?


Well they are saying a lot more than just that /.


What else they saying /?


Um well eh let 's just clear up with the medical book /.


She did n't actually bring it into the deliberation room /.


the jurors were meeting /.


They rendezvoused at a juvenile hall in Santa Maria /.

They rendezvoused at a juvenile hall in <gpe>Santa Maria</gpe> /.


and she bought it there /.


and as they were getting into the van they ordered it to put it back in her car /.


but she wanted them to understand Ellie Cook this is that this fits Michael to a tee /.

but she wanted them to understand <person>Ellie Cook</person> this is that this fits <person>Michael</person> to a tee /.


So she wanted them to know Michael Jackson 's guilty , he 's a pedophile /.

So she wanted them to know <person>Michael Jackson</person> 's guilty , he 's a pedophile /.


and then what /?


Then she just caved /?


She says she was pressured /.


Think she was threated /.


and they were threatening to throw her off the jury /.


Come on /.


this is the one who 's been wanting to write a book since the beginning , right /?


Yeah absolutely /.


Her granddaughter had put out feelers since she was picked for the jury /.


What other kind of shannigans were going on back there , do they say /?


Well um they mentioned um as you had mentioned in your open about the Court TV video /.

Well um they mentioned um as you had mentioned in your open about the <org>Court TV</org> video /.


Someone had apparently taped some Court TV um stuff /.

Someone had apparently taped some <org>Court TV</org> um stuff /.


and they tried to play it /.


Uh apparently it was a malfunction in the video tape /.


Mhm /.


Well let me give the juror 's explanation for this /.


And /.


This is Paula Coccoz /.

This is <person>Paula Coccoz</person> /.


we talked to her today juror number ten /.

we talked to her <date>today</date> juror <cardinal>number ten</cardinal> /.


It 's number four /.

It 's <cardinal>number four</cardinal> /.


Uh the bailiff brought in a TV with a VCR so we could review the sheriff 's interview /.


and we went to put in the tape /.


The tape was marked Court TV /.

The tape was marked <org>Court TV</org> /.


The people at the courthouse had left this tape in the VCR /.


We told the bailiff about this /.


and he seemed concerned about whether or not we reviewed the tape /.


We told them we did n't watch it /.


We did n't find out until later what was on the tape /.


Yeah /.


according to Ellie though someone taped that show /.

according to <person>Ellie</person> though someone taped that show /.


It was n't left there /.


Um and there was a problem /.


Now I know that someone else mentioned that there was a problem as well with a VCR /.


but if you remember well the interview with the sheriff and the young boy was on a disk and not a VCR /.


And this is number five /.

And this is <cardinal>number five</cardinal> /.


Uh this is again the Daily News /.

Uh this is again <org>the Daily News</org> /.


That Cook uh admits that she frequently winked at Jackson 's mother um Katherine in court and exchanged wardrobe tips with the entertainer 's mom which resulted in them wearing the same colors on certain days /.

That <person>Cook</person> uh admits that she frequently winked at <person>Jackson</person> 's mother um <person>Katherine</person> in court and exchanged wardrobe tips with the entertainer 's mom which resulted in them wearing the same colors on certain days /.


Ellie Cook talked about that yeah /.

<person>Ellie Cook</person> talked about that yeah /.


She mentioned that they would wink and nod at each other /.


I do n't understand /.


So on the one hand this juror 's saying I was convinced he was guilty you know /.

So on the <cardinal>one</cardinal> hand this juror 's saying I was convinced he was guilty you know /.


and they 're saying oh she was trying to bring in a medical text /.


and on the other hand she 's sitting there winking at Katherine Jackson talking to her about what clothes they 're going to wear /.

and on the other hand she 's sitting there winking at <person>Katherine Jackson</person> talking to her about what clothes they 're going to wear /.


Saying everything was going to be okay /.


She /-


And that 's why you did n't believe this story /.


That 's why I do n't yeah ah /.


That 's why you would n't write the book /.


I 'm not writing it because I just think that there 's a lot of issues with this /.


if you felt that this guy was guilty , you felt he was a pedophile , he lives in your community , he 's a very powerful member of your community why let him free then /?


Do you just not believe these jurors /?


Is that the problem /?


I just do n't believe them /.


Why /?


I mean they 're making this up for money /?


It 's just /-


well uh you know I think in both their cases they feel now in retrospect maybe we made a mistake /.


And see I can live with that if that 's what they are saying /.


but they 're not saying that /.


They 're saying that they believed all along he was guilty /.


and I 'm having a hard time with that /.


Alright Stacy uh stick around for a minute /.

Alright <person>Stacy</person> uh stick around for a minute /.


Joining me now NBC News legal analyst former prosecutor Susan Filan and attorney and Celebrity Justice executive producer Harvey Levin criminal defense attorney Daniel Horowitz /.

Joining me now <org>NBC News</org> legal analyst former prosecutor <person>Susan Filan</person> and attorney and <work_of_art>Celebrity Justice</work_of_art> executive producer <person>Harvey Levin</person> criminal defense attorney <person>Daniel Horowitz</person> /.


Harv what do you make of /-

<person>Harv</person> what do you make of /-


Look you 've followed this close /.


What do you make of all this /?


Well I think Eleanor Cook is a wacko Dan /.

Well I think <person>Eleanor Cook</person> is a wacko <person>Dan</person> /.


and I think if any of these allegations are true these jurors need to be prosecuted /.


I mean this is jury tampering from within the jury if these allegations are true /.


And if there is ever to be a fair celebrity trial again especially in California somebody needs to say look we are drawing the line /.

And if there is ever to be a fair celebrity trial again especially in <gpe>California</gpe> somebody needs to say look we are drawing the line /.


You 're not going to get books at the end of the rainbow and do things inappropriate /.


If it pans out it 's true I think Tom Sneddon himself should prosecute without respect to whether it would have been pro or anti Michael Jackson /.

If it pans out it 's true I think <person>Tom Sneddon</person> himself should prosecute without respect to whether it would have been pro or anti <person>Michael Jackson</person> /.


So Susan let 's assume for a minute it 's true /.

So <person>Susan</person> let 's assume for <time>a minute</time> it 's true /.


Again you 're the prosecutor /.


and you 're sitting there going are you kidding me /?


There were two or three jurors who wanted to convict /.

There were <cardinal>two</cardinal> or <cardinal>three</cardinal> jurors who wanted to convict /.


and they caved because they were pressured or whatever /.


You ca n't do anything , can you /?


Nothing /.


eh game over /.


You ca n't take an appeal from an aquittal /.


The problem that I have with this is as members of the media we had an awfully difficult time with access to this trial /.


If this is going to set a precedent to shut media out because these highly publicized celebrity trials yield these faulty verdicts she 's doing far far more harm than she could ever understand /.


Yeah but let 's forget about the media stuff /.


I mean the bottom line is the prosecutors ca n't do anything about this , right /?


I mean if the jurors were tampering with evidence , if they were playing with evidence et cetera back there the prosecutors have to just suck it up and be depressed /.


There 's no remedy /.


They have to eat it /.


It 's over /.


Daniel I mean Stacy does n't really believe them /.

<person>Daniel</person> I mean <person>Stacy</person> does n't really believe them /.


but what do you think /?


Well Dan I believe them /.

Well <person>Dan</person> I believe them /.


You know jurors are people /.


We expect them to be perfect little robots doing what the judge says /.


and they do n't /.


They 're going to watch television /.


I 'm sure they all watch your show /.


and they watched Susan try to convict Michael Jackson /.

and they watched <person>Susan</person> try to convict <person>Michael Jackson</person> /.


but then I hope they listened to me and to reason /.


But the bottom line is they reached a fair and just verdict /.


You have to trust people and nail those attempts to control and hypercontrol this case /.


Just backfired /.


It made the jurors feel isolated /.


and now they 're all quiet /.


They wo n't talk to us about what really went on /.


Okay here 's my problem /.


It 's this woman saying she was forced and bullied right into reaching the verdict that she did /.


and there she is saying I did n't like the way that this woman snapped at me talking about the accuser 's mother et cetera /. /.


You know Dan I do n't even talk to juries afterwards unless I win because you 're always going to hear things like that /.

You know <person>Dan</person> I do n't even talk to juries afterwards unless I win because you 're always going to hear things like that /.


People in a jury room are in a bar room brawl /.


It 's not supposed to be pretty /.


and when it 's over there 's always second thoughts and regrets /.

and when it 's over there 's always <ordinal>second</ordinal> thoughts and regrets /.


but it 's the system /.


and it works /.


Harvey you know what /.

<person>Harvey</person> you know what /.


eh hey hey if I may say /-


But Dan your point is that /-

But <person>Dan</person> your point is that /-


You know a bar room brawl is one thing /.

You know a bar room brawl is <cardinal>one</cardinal> thing /.


They were acting like outlaws if these allegations are true /.


Right /.


And you know I agree Susan that the prosecutors ca n't do anything to Michael Jackson /.

And you know I agree <person>Susan</person> that the prosecutors ca n't do anything to <person>Michael Jackson</person> /.


but they certainly can do something to the jurors /.


and I think it is more important right now to say /-


I 'm telling you Dan you and I have covered a lot of trials in this city /.

I 'm telling you <person>Dan</person> you and I have covered a lot of trials in this city /.


and we 've seen a lot of weird things happen since OJ Simpson with books and everything else /.

and we 've seen a lot of weird things happen since <person>OJ Simpson</person> with books and everything else /.


If jurors realize that there 's a back end if you will which is a Hollywood term to these trials and if they get caught so what they get caught but they can still publish a book if they believe that everything is going to change in this city /.

If jurors realize that there 's a back end if you will which is a <gpe>Hollywood</gpe> term to these trials and if they get caught so what they get caught but they can still publish a book if they believe that everything is going to change in this city /.


let me ask you /.


Harv here 's the thing that I do n't understand /.


And this is why Stacy made the right call on this /.

And this is why <person>Stacy</person> made the right call on this /.


Alright Stacy may say he did n't believe them whatever /.

Alright <person>Stacy</person> may say he did n't believe them whatever /.


I do n't think that many people are going to buy this book /.


Is that Stacy /?


I did n't either /.


Is that the real reason you did n't want to write the book Stacy /?

Is that the real reason you did n't want to write the book <person>Stacy</person> /?


Well no no that 's not the b- /-


You did n't think you were going to make any money /?


Come on /.


That 's the real reason , is n't it /?


No /.


the real reason is Dan believe it or not I have a conscience /.

the real reason is <person>Dan</person> believe it or not I have a conscience /.


I wrote Man Behind the Mask with Bob Jones because I believed in Bob Jones /.

I wrote <work_of_art>Man Behind the Mask</work_of_art> with <person>Bob Jones</person> because I believed in <person>Bob Jones</person> /.


and I still believe in the material /.


I do n't believe in this material /.


uh Harvey do you agree with me that the book 's not really going to sell much /?

uh <person>Harvey</person> do you agree with me that the book 's not really going to sell much /?


Absolutely /.


For two reasons /.


Number one I think it would have been a better book if he would have been found guilty /.

<cardinal>Number one</cardinal> I think it would have been a better book if he would have been found guilty /.


And secondly I think the credibility of the authors um mean a whole lot /.

And <ordinal>secondly</ordinal> I think the credibility of the authors um mean a whole lot /.


and eh you know I just think everything is so off - kilter people are n't going to be particularly interested in it /.


Yes /.


Yeah /.


Uh reminder /.


you can hear from uh those two jurors who now say Jackson 's guilty premiere of Rita Cosby Live and Direct Monday night at nine PM eastern right here on MSNBC /. /.

you can hear from uh those <cardinal>two</cardinal> jurors who now say <person>Jackson</person> 's guilty premiere of <work_of_art>Rita Cosby Live and Direct</work_of_art> <time>Monday night at nine PM eastern</time> right here on <org>MSNBC</org> /. /.


Susan Filan 's going to stick around /.

<person>Susan Filan</person> 's going to stick around /.


Harv Daniel Horowitz thanks a lot /.

<person>Harv</person> <person>Daniel Horowitz</person> thanks a lot /.


appreciate it /.


Coming up no clear explanation for what happened to a honeymooner who disappeared from a Mediterranean cruise last month /.

Coming up no clear explanation for what happened to a honeymooner who disappeared from a <loc>Mediterranean</loc> cruise <date>last month</date> /.


Police now focusing on three men seem to be telling some inconsistent stories /.

Police now focusing on <cardinal>three</cardinal> men seem to be telling some inconsistent stories /.


And our series on wanted sex offenders around the country concludes tonight /.

And our series on wanted sex offenders around the country concludes <time>tonight</time> /.


It 's called Manhunt Sex Offenders on the Loose /.

It 's called <work_of_art>Manhunt Sex Offenders on the Loose</work_of_art> /.


College student Dru Sjodin allegedly raped and murdered by a sex offender two years ago /.

College student <person>Dru Sjodin</person> allegedly raped and murdered by a sex offender <date>two years ago</date> /.


Her mother joins us along with Erin Runnion whose five year old girl was raped and murdered by a convicted sex offender /.

Her mother joins us along with <person>Erin Runnion</person> whose <date>five year old</date> girl was raped and murdered by a convicted sex offender /.


Coming up , man disappears on his honeymoon cruise ship /.


Police on the case focusing now on three men seem to be telling some inconsistent stories /.

Police on the case focusing now on <cardinal>three</cardinal> men seem to be telling some inconsistent stories /.


More on the investigation coming up /.


but first the headlines /.


Hello I 'm Milissa Rehberger /.

Hello I 'm <person>Milissa Rehberger</person> /.


Here 's what 's happening /.


The Russian military is racing to rescue seven sailors trapped in a minisubmarine six hundred and twenty - five feet below the surface of the Pacific Ocean /.

The <norp>Russian</norp> military is racing to rescue <cardinal>seven</cardinal> sailors trapped in a minisubmarine <quantity>six hundred and twenty - five feet</quantity> below the surface of <loc>the Pacific Ocean</loc> /.


The sub got snagged in a giant fishing net /.


A US Airforce jet carrying robotic undersea vehicles is on its way from California to aid in that rescue /.

A <org>US Airforce</org> jet carrying robotic undersea vehicles is on its way from <gpe>California</gpe> to aid in that rescue /.


It 's expected to arrive in ten to twelve hours /.

It 's expected to arrive in <time>ten to twelve hours</time> /.


It is unclear how much oxygen remains onboard that minisub /.


The Russian Navy 's chief spokesperson says there may only be about twelve hours worth while another official says there 's more than twenty - four hours left /.

<org>The Russian Navy 's</org> chief spokesperson says there may only be <time>about twelve hours</time> worth while another official says there 's <date>more than twenty - four hours</date> left /.


British Prime Minister Tony Blair announced the crackdown on terrorists and extremists in the wake of the London bombing /.

<norp>British</norp> Prime Minister <person>Tony Blair</person> announced the crackdown on terrorists and extremists in the wake of the <gpe>London</gpe> bombing /.


He proposed new deportation measures against people who advocate violence /.


And a new anti-insurgents operation underway in western Iraq /.

And a new anti-insurgents operation underway in western <gpe>Iraq</gpe> /.


US marines and Iraqi troops launched Operation Quick Strike in the Euphrates River Valley /.

<gpe>US</gpe> marines and <norp>Iraqi</norp> troops launched <event>Operation Quick Strike</event> in <loc>the Euphrates River Valley</loc> /.


That is northwest of Baghdad /.

That is northwest of <gpe>Baghdad</gpe> /.


That 's where twenty - two marines were killed this week /.

That 's where <cardinal>twenty - two</cardinal> marines were killed <date>this week</date> /.


Back to the Abrams Report /.

Back to <work_of_art>the Abrams Report</work_of_art> /.


Exactly a month after twenty - six year old George Smith vanished from a Royal Caribbean ship cruising in the Mediterranean NBC News has learned federal investigators are now focusing on three men who were traveling on the cruise ship called Brilliance of the Seas two Russian brothers who live in Brooklyn and one man who lives in California /.

<date>Exactly a month</date> after <date>twenty - six year old</date> <person>George Smith</person> vanished from a <org>Royal Caribbean</org> ship cruising in the <loc>Mediterranean</loc> <org>NBC News</org> has learned federal investigators are now focusing on <cardinal>three</cardinal> men who were traveling on the cruise ship called <product>Brilliance of the Seas</product> <cardinal>two</cardinal> <norp>Russian</norp> brothers who live in <gpe>Brooklyn</gpe> and <cardinal>one</cardinal> man who lives in <gpe>California</gpe> /.


The attorney for the California man issued this statement /.

The attorney for the <gpe>California</gpe> man issued this statement /.


We 've been cooperating with the FBI and the US Attorney 's Office in their investigation /.

We 've been cooperating with the <org>FBI</org> and <org>the US Attorney 's Office</org> in their investigation /.


and we 'll continue to do so /.


However we 've been asked by the authorities not to speak with the media while the investigation is pending /.


and we intend to honor that request /.


This photo taken the day shows what appears to be blood on the awning below the cabin where Smith and his wife were staying /.

This photo taken <date>the day</date> shows what appears to be blood on the awning below the cabin where <person>Smith</person> and his wife were staying /.


Smith was traveling on his honeymoon and had left Barcelona Spain on June twenty - ninth /.

<person>Smith</person> was traveling on his honeymoon and had left <gpe>Barcelona</gpe> <gpe>Spain</gpe> on <date>June twenty - ninth</date> /.


what was meant to be a twelve day cruise /.

what was meant to be a <date>twelve day</date> cruise /.


Halfway through the trip on the morning of July fifth he disappeared /.

Halfway through the trip on <time>the morning</time> of <date>July fifth</date> he disappeared /.


He was reported missing later that day when the ship docked in Kusadasi Turkey /.

He was reported missing <time>later that day</time> when the ship docked in <gpe>Kusadasi</gpe> <gpe>Turkey</gpe> /.


NBC has also learned that Smith 's new wife Jennifer Hagel has been questioned is not a suspect /.

<org>NBC</org> has also learned that <person>Smith</person> 's new wife <person>Jennifer Hagel</person> has been questioned is not a suspect /.


Two were married on June twenty - fifth in Newport Rhode Island /.

<cardinal>Two</cardinal> were married on <date>June twenty - fifth</date> in <gpe>Newport</gpe> <gpe>Rhode Island</gpe> /.


Joining me now former Connecticut prosecutor NBC News uh legal analyst Susan Filan who 's been covering the case closely and Orlando police chief Walter uh Zalisko who was on the same cruise that Smith travelled on as well as forensic expert Larry Kobilinsky /.

Joining me now former <gpe>Connecticut</gpe> prosecutor <org>NBC News</org> uh legal analyst <person>Susan Filan</person> who 's been covering the case closely and <gpe>Orlando</gpe> police chief <person>Walter uh Zalisko</person> who was on the same cruise that <person>Smith</person> travelled on as well as forensic expert <person>Larry Kobilinsky</person> /.


Alright so Susan what do you know about the investigation /?

Alright so <person>Susan</person> what do you know about the investigation /?


Well NBC news has learned from a law enforcement source that the wife is not a suspect and that they are focusing in on these two Russian brothers as you said who live in Brooklyn /.

Well <org>NBC news</org> has learned from a law enforcement source that the wife is not a suspect and that they are focusing in on these <cardinal>two</cardinal> <norp>Russian</norp> brothers as you said who live in <gpe>Brooklyn</gpe> /.


The California teen is apparently the key to the case at this point /.

The <gpe>California</gpe> teen is apparently the key to the case at this point /.


That 's law enforcement 's focus /.


If this young man will talk this could break open what happened to George /.

If this young man will talk this could break open what happened to <person>George</person> /.


The key question is is this a tragic accident or is this foul play /?


Right now law enforcement seems to think it 's foul play /.


US attorney Kevin O'Connor said we have reason to believe there could have been foul play here /.

<gpe>US</gpe> attorney <person>Kevin O'Connor</person> said we have reason to believe there could have been foul play here /.


Um alright uh Mister Zalisko do you know anything from your personal experience of having been on the cruise as to what happened /?

Um alright uh Mister <person>Zalisko</person> do you know anything from your personal experience of having been on the cruise as to what happened /?


Uh good evening sir /.


Uh first I 'd just like to clarify I 'm a police chief in Oak Hill Florida not Orlando /.

Uh <ordinal>first</ordinal> I 'd just like to clarify I 'm a police chief in <gpe>Oak Hill</gpe> <gpe>Florida</gpe> not <gpe>Orlando</gpe> /.


Uh now as far as the cruise uh I was on the cruise that uh uh day /.

Uh now as far as the cruise uh I was on the cruise <date>that uh uh day</date> /.


and the way I became aware of what occured was that uh the morning of the fifth a relative of mine had mentioned that there was blood stain on the canopy beneath her uh balcony /.

and the way I became aware of what occured was that uh <time>the morning</time> of <date>the fifth</date> a relative of mine had mentioned that there was blood stain on the canopy beneath her uh balcony /.


at that point we kind of dismissed it /.


We did n't know what was uh going on /.


Uh we then went on our daily excursion /.


However later on into the cruise that day uh the ship 's captain went onto the PA system and made an announcement that uh authorities were on the ship and they were investigating the possibility that an individual had gone overboard during the night or early morning hours /.

However later on into the cruise <date>that day</date> uh the ship 's captain went onto the PA system and made an announcement that uh authorities were on the ship and they were investigating the possibility that an individual had gone overboard during the <time>night</time> or <time>early morning hours</time> /.


When I asked my cousin the uh size of the blood splatter she had indicated it was relatively the size of a small uh dog of a beagle type /.


However viewing those photographs on TV that blood splatter is much larger than uh a small dog /.


Mhm /.


In fact it 's maybe three to four feet in length /.

In fact it 's <quantity>maybe three to four feet</quantity> in length /.


And then we 've been hearing many stories that uh there were a lot of people going into and out of the state rooms uh which would indicate that the crime scene was not properly secured in the early stages of the investigation /.


Well /.


Alright let me play this piece of sound from one of the passengers who was uh staying right nearby uh this particular uh room /.

Alright let me play this piece of sound from <cardinal>one</cardinal> of the passengers who was uh staying right nearby uh this particular uh room /.


We were awakened uh about four in the morning uh by loud yelling coming from the cabin /.

We were awakened uh <time>about four in the morning</time> uh by loud yelling coming from the cabin /.


Um it sounded like people uh cheering uh like a drinking contest type thing /.


And he says uh later um chief that he heard a horrific thud /.


Well yeah that would indicate that something did go on there /.


and we know uh that the three individuals were in a room uh with Mister Smith /.

and we know uh that the <cardinal>three</cardinal> individuals were in a room uh with Mister <person>Smith</person> /.


And the question that has to be uh presented to everybody is why is it taking so long for authorities to interview the individual that was in a cabin next door /?


Any seasoned investigator would know that you would want to conduct your interviews uh of possible witnesses immediately after the crime /.


Yeah /.


And you would not just interview that individual next door /.


You would have to take a step to interview people above below and to both sides /.


Susan what 's the answer to that /?

<person>Susan</person> what 's the answer to that /?


But Dan /.


there are jurisdictional problems here /.


You know it 's not a clear cut case as to who gets to prosecute this case /.


Turkey ca n't do anything without a body /.

<gpe>Turkey</gpe> ca n't do anything without a body /.


United States can /.


Fair play of the United States for stepping in /.

Fair play of <gpe>the United States</gpe> for stepping in /.


fair play to law enforcement for getting involved /.


Jurisdiction is n't clear /.


but they 're working very hard to solve the crime /.


I do n't think the criticism is well placed against law enforcement in this case /.


Also the crime scene oh if you want to call it that was cleaned up by the cruise ship who got their investigators and their lawyers in from what I understand right away to make this go away /.


so I think law enforcement was put in a bad position trying to play catchup /.


and I think they 're doing +an amazing job /.


Larry so uh any chance now based on the fact that things have been cleaned up et cetera to get any usable evidence /?

<person>Larry</person> so uh any chance now based on the fact that things have been cleaned up et cetera to get any usable evidence /?


Well it 's very difficult Dan /.

Well it 's very difficult <person>Dan</person> /.


Uh obviously as we keep saying we do not have a body /.


therefore we do not have a cause or a manner of the death /.


But we do have some physical evidence /.


Unfortunately examination of the photograph uh tells me it was not done the proper way /.


It was n't a forensic photograph /.


So I really do not know how large the stain was in its dimensions /.


but it is pretty clear that there 's a lot of blood there great deal of blood /.


It makes you think that something criminal occured /.


But again getting back to how you solve the crime you got to go to the crime scene /.


and I think there are multiple scenes here /.


Every place there 's blood it 's a crime scene /.


But the most important place is the cabin because that 's presumably where the injury took place /.


Now there was some rumor about some arguments going casino the night before /.

Now there was some rumor about some arguments going casino <time>the night before</time> /.


Uh and it could very well be that he was arguing with these individuals /.


so uh that could be the tie the connection /.


and I think good policework would connect the individuals in question with the casino with Mister Smith /.

and I think good policework would connect the individuals in question with the casino with Mister <person>Smith</person> /.


and that might help us understand what happened /.


this is um a little bit more sound /.


This is again from Cletus Hyman uh who was literally um in a joining or nearby cabin um as to what he heard around he said four in the morning the day before uh Mister Smith went missing /.

This is again from <person>Cletus Hyman</person> uh who was literally um in a joining or nearby cabin um as to what he heard around he said <time>four in the morning</time> <date>the day</date> before uh Mister <person>Smith</person> went missing /.


At times it sounded like furniture was being actually picked up and dropped /.


and then that horrific uh thud /.


Yeah I mean that sure sounds to me chief like we 're not talking about someone who /-


I mean I guess it 's possible if you 're talking about loud yelling coming /-


Well look if this guy 's right that loud yelling is coming from the cabin right and the wife is not a real suspect here means that there was probably someone else in there /.


Well there absolutely was someone else in that room /.


And what 's interesting is there was a witness who uh had informed ship 's authorities that she had heard a scream uh early that morning /.

And what 's interesting is there was a witness who uh had informed ship 's authorities that she had heard a scream uh <time>early that morning</time> /.


And what 's really interesting is uh we do n't know if she 's been interviewed at this point /.


But it was five days later that the ship 's attorneys had begun to question her not law enforcement but ship 's attorneys /.

But it was <date>five days later</date> that the ship 's attorneys had begun to question her not law enforcement but ship 's attorneys /.


We will uh continue to follow this /.


Chief Zalisko of the Oakhill Police Department sorry about that Susan Filan Larry Kobilinsky thanks a lot /.

Chief <person>Zalisko</person> of <org>the Oakhill Police Department</org> sorry about that <person>Susan Filan</person> <person>Larry Kobilinsky</person> thanks a lot /.


Coming up two mothers both their daughters kidnapped raped killed /.

Coming up <cardinal>two</cardinal> mothers both their daughters kidnapped raped killed /.


Join us for the final installment of our series Manhunt Sex Offenders on the Loose /.

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And you know I sort of pooh - poohed the idea that two jurors from the Michael Jackson trial are now writing tell - all books saying that they think Michael Jackson 's guilty /.

And you know I sort of pooh - poohed the idea that <cardinal>two</cardinal> jurors from the <person>Michael Jackson</person> trial are now writing tell - all books saying that they think <person>Michael Jackson</person> 's guilty /.


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Coming up , our series Manhunt Sex Offenders on the Loose continues with two mothers who lost very loved ones to really these monsters , coming up /.

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All week we 've been continuing with our series Manhunt Sex Offenders on the Loose /.

All week we 've been continuing with our series <work_of_art>Manhunt Sex Offenders on the Loose</work_of_art> /.


In a moment I 'm going to talk with two very courageous mothers who both lost daughters to sex offenders /.

In <time>a moment</time> I 'm going to talk with <cardinal>two</cardinal> very courageous mothers who both lost daughters to sex offenders /.


But first I want to highlight some of the wanted sex offenders running free before they strike /.

But <ordinal>first</ordinal> I want to highlight some of the wanted sex offenders running free before they strike /.


This time in New York state /.

This time in <gpe>New York</gpe> state /.


Tomas Meddaugh is a oh he 's not thirty that guy 's what fifty alright fifty year old white male five foot seven a hundred and sixty - eight pounds with scars near his left eyebrow and shoulder his neck and abdomen /.

<person>Tomas Meddaugh</person> is a oh he 's not <date>thirty</date> that guy 's what <date>fifty</date> alright <date>fifty year old</date> white male <quantity>five foot seven</quantity> <quantity>a hundred and sixty - eight pounds</quantity> with scars near his left eyebrow and shoulder his neck and abdomen /.


He 's got a prior conviction for rape /.


and his current offense involved deviant sexual intercourse with a thirteen year old girl /.

and his current offense involved deviant sexual intercourse with a <date>thirteen year old</date> girl /.


He 's considered armed and dangerous /.


Francisco Paulino is a forty - six year old Hispanic male five foot nine hundred and forty no scars or tattoos that they know of /.

<person>Francisco Paulino</person> is a <date>forty - six year old</date> <norp>Hispanic</norp> male <quantity>five foot nine</quantity> <cardinal>hundred and forty</cardinal> no scars or tattoos that they know of /.


He does have a prior conviction for the knifepoint rape of a fourteen year old girl /.

He does have a prior conviction for the knifepoint rape of a <date>fourteen year old</date> girl /.


He 's violated his parole /.


He 's wanted /.


Dion Bryant twenty - four year old black male standing five foot six one fifty - six /.

<person>Dion Bryant</person> <date>twenty - four year old</date> black male standing <quantity>five foot six</quantity> <cardinal>one fifty - six</cardinal> /.


Convicted for attempted rape /.


three underage girls involved /.

<cardinal>three</cardinal> underage girls involved /.


He too has violated his parole /.


Wanted /.


Anyone with information about their whereabouts should call New York 's a hundred most wanted tipline one eight hundred two six two four three two one and keep in mind that these guys really may be dangerous /.

Anyone with information about their whereabouts should call <gpe>New York 's</gpe> a <cardinal>hundred</cardinal> most wanted tipline one eight hundred two six two four three two one and keep in mind that these guys really may be dangerous /.


so /-


Now the women you 're about to meet lost their children to vicious predators /.


Samantha Runnion was uh just eleven days away from her sixth birthday when she was kidnapped sexually assaulted and murdered by a man named Alejandro Avila /.

<person>Samantha Runnion</person> was uh just <date>eleven days</date> away from her <ordinal>sixth</ordinal> birthday when she was kidnapped sexually assaulted and murdered by a man named <person>Alejandro Avila</person> /.


He 's been sentenced to death for those crimes /.


In choosing to destroy Samantha 's life you chose this /.

In choosing to destroy <person>Samantha</person> 's life you chose this /.


You chose to waste your life to satisfy a selfish and sick desire /.


You knew it was wrong /.


and you chose not to think about it /.


Well now you have a lot of time to think about it /.


Do n't waste it /.


Write it down so that the rest of us can figure out how to stop you people /.


You 're a disgrace to the human race /.


And Dru Sjodin was a twenty - two year old college student /.

And <person>Dru Sjodin</person> was a <date>twenty - two year old</date> college student /.


She was abducted and killed /.


Alfonso Rodriguez a man with prior convictions for assaulting women is facing trial accused of kidnapping and murder /.

<person>Alfonso Rodriguez</person> a man with prior convictions for assaulting women is facing trial accused of kidnapping and murder /.


Convicted he too uh could get the death penalty /.


Joining me now is Samantha Runnion 's mother Erin Runnion and Dru Sjodin 's mother Linda Walker /.

Joining me now is <person>Samantha Runnion 's</person> mother <person>Erin Runnion</person> and <person>Dru Sjodin 's</person> mother <person>Linda Walker</person> /.


Thanks so much uh for coming on the program /.


We appreciate it /.


Alright Erin let me start with you /.

Alright <person>Erin</person> let me start with you /.


What do you think the biggest problem is out there when it comes to these sex offenders /?


Well I think that there 's a gross misconception about sex offender crimes /.


I think most do not realize how pervasive the problem is /.


The sex offenders that we have caught are a very small percentage of those that are out there /.


Statistically one in four girls and as many as one in six to ten boys are sexually assaulted before they are eighteen /.

Statistically <cardinal>one</cardinal> in <cardinal>four</cardinal> girls and as many as <cardinal>one</cardinal> in <cardinal>six</cardinal> to <cardinal>ten</cardinal> boys are sexually assaulted before they are <date>eighteen</date> /.


That 's nationwide /.


This problem is much bigger than I think people are realizing /.


And Linda I guess what we 're realizing as we have been highlighting these wanted sex offenders around the country is how many of them are still out there and wanted /.

And <person>Linda</person> I guess what we 're realizing as we have been highlighting these wanted sex offenders around the country is how many of them are still out there and wanted /.


Well currently there 's um right now uh over a hundred thousand that are missing /.

Well currently there 's um right now uh <cardinal>over a hundred thousand</cardinal> that are missing /.


Unbelievable /.


Uh we know that there 's over five hundred thousand registered /.

Uh we know that there 's <cardinal>over five hundred thousand</cardinal> registered /.


So yes there 's a vast amount that are running uh through the system /.


That 's a May of two thousand five um statistic /.

That 's a <date>May of two thousand five</date> um statistic /.


but as far as those before that time and date /.


Um Linda eh how much has this eh when I say changed your life I mean in addition to the obvious loss of your daughter but in terms of what you are doing everyday with your life /.

Um <person>Linda</person> eh how much has this eh when I say changed your life I mean in addition to the obvious loss of your daughter but in terms of what you are doing everyday with your life /.


both of you have devoted much of your lives to this cause now /.


Linda why do n't you tell me a little bit about what you 've been doing /.

<person>Linda</person> why do n't you tell me a little bit about what you 've been doing /.


Well um I 've been working with um er pardon me Byron Dorgan Senator of North Dakota /.

Well um I 've been working with um er pardon me <person>Byron Dorgan</person> Senator of <gpe>North Dakota</gpe> /.


um working legislation on what has been uh called Dru 's Law which we hope will be a national sex +offender uh database through computer /.

um working legislation on what has been uh called <law>Dru 's Law</law> which we hope will be a national sex +offender uh database through computer /.


And um obviously we know that this nation is more and um they 're able to access cross you know state lines /.


so I think it 's important that uh people of predators living amongst us across you know the country and be vigilant uh besides uh leaving the pressure on them /.


Mhm /.


Yeah /.


Erin uh every time I listen to that tape of you um talking to uh your dau- I get chills /.

<person>Erin</person> uh every time I listen to that tape of you um talking to uh your dau- I get chills /.


Um was it at all uh cathartic for you to be able to stand across from him /?


Definitely /.


Definitely I to say what I said to him /.


I needed to address him /.


And I feel like I got it off my chest you know /.


I hope to never ever see him again /.


The whole trial process is really built around the defendant /.


and um it was very important to me that I bring it back around and make it about Samantha because that 's what it was really about /.

and um it was very important to me that I bring it back around and make it about <person>Samantha</person> because that 's what it was really about /.


Do you watch these other stories uh in the news /.


and does it just get your blood boiling as you see eh these cases where was on the loose should have been arrested could 've been /.


You know the technology is there /.


so yes it infuriates me /.


I ca n't understand why we 're so behind in terms of tracking sex offenders /.


and I really think it 's because people do n't real- /-


there 's no reason that there should n't be a nationwide movement to stop these people . To have them register at the very least have them their driver 's licenses /.


If they do n't they go on a most wanted list /.


it 's made public nationwide /.


At the very least every state could do that /.


it adds to state revenue /.


it does n't take away /.


It 's a good way to track them /.


And I have to just on a personal note applaud Linda /.

And I have to just on a personal note applaud <person>Linda</person> /.


I met her before they had found Dru /.

I met her before they had found <person>Dru</person> /.


and I 'm so sorry for your loss /.


I think you 're just amazing /.


You 're doing such a job /.


Well as well for you too /.


Thank you /.


Linda are you psychologically prepared uh for this trial /?

<person>Linda</person> are you psychologically prepared uh for this trial /?


I mean eh you know you can tell from seeing on that tape that obviously it 's not easy stuff /.


I mean to sit there next to these guys /.


You know it 's just another part of this whole sick story /.


there 's no script for it /.


I do n't know if anyone could ever be prepared /.


Um obviously it 's something that um we look to have it put behind us so we can really dwell more on what Dru gave us in her life and not how tragically she was taken from us /.

Um obviously it 's something that um we look to have it put behind us so we can really dwell more on what <person>Dru</person> gave us in her life and not how tragically she was taken from us /.


And also I have to say that what both of you are doing in working with legislators uh to move forward uh to not just say we 're going to only look past /.


Both of you are doing /.


and that 's why we 're so um glad and proud to have you both on the program /.


It 's because of what both of you are doing to have things change /.


um and I think that is what 's /-


Go ahead Linda /.


Well and uh thanks goes to you and to the media to help us /.


Absolutely /.


Obviously we could n't scream loud enough uh to bring the attention /.


so our hat is off to all of you as well /.


Yeah /.


Yeah and that 's /-


And to realize you know why we 're out here doing what we 're doing on the scale that we 're able to /.


and that 's why I have to tell you on this special series we 're doing I 'm just getting so tired of hearing these stories about these guys where they were always on the loose and people say oh you know it would have been nice if he was captured /.


Tired of it /.


and as a result you know we 're doing the little bit that we can /.


but you guys are the ones who are really going to get things done /.


Your voices your presence um I think is really the difference /.


and that 's why I thank you both so much for coming on the program /.


Well thank you /.


it 's /.


And you know it 's so important we know too /.


It 's so important that people realize at home that in our own homes in our own lives we can work to prevent these crimes /.


It is really just about uh communicating with neighbors getting a watch going in your community talking /-


Report every suspicious behavior there is /.


You never know /.


It leads to convictions time and time again /.


and Linda Walker thank you both so much for coming on the program /.

and <person>Linda Walker</person> thank you both so much for coming on the program /.


Absolutely uh /.


Thank you /.


We really appreciate it /.


Be right back /.


Thank you Dan /.


I 've had my say /.


now it 's time for your rebuttal /.


Last night I said if the two jurors in the Michael Jackson case are really now saying that he 's guilty that 's shameful /.

<time>Last night</time> I said if the <cardinal>two</cardinal> jurors in the <person>Michael Jackson</person> case are really now saying that he 's guilty that 's shameful /.


Leslie Birdwhistell from Bowling Green Kentucky /.

<person>Leslie Birdwhistell</person> from <gpe>Bowling Green</gpe> <gpe>Kentucky</gpe> /.


Man you /.


Ca n't these people step away from the trial and the ten other jurors take in some information that was not presented in court and change their minds about the verdict /?

Ca n't these people step away from the trial and the <cardinal>ten</cardinal> other jurors take in some information that was not presented in court and change their minds about the verdict /?


Uh No /.


It 's too important /.


They saw the evidence /.


The only thing that might 've changed their minds this quickly I think is money or peer pressure neither of which are very good reasons /.


David Becker from Bradenton Florida /.

<person>David Becker</person> from <gpe>Bradenton</gpe> <gpe>Florida</gpe> /.


Why 's it so difficult to believe these jurors believed Michael Jackson was guilty but did n't believe there was sufficient evidence to convict /?

Why 's it so difficult to believe these jurors believed <person>Michael Jackson</person> was guilty but did n't believe there was sufficient evidence to convict /?


Uh maybe Dave /.


but the Daily News reported that they quote flip - flopped /.

but <org>the Daily News</org> reported that they quote flip - flopped /.


And in our weeklong series Manhunt Sex Offenders on the Loose trying to stop wanted sex offenders before they strike Chris O'Rourke from Gardner Massachusetts /.

And in our <date>weeklong</date> series <work_of_art>Manhunt Sex Offenders on the Loose</work_of_art> trying to stop wanted sex offenders before they strike <person>Chris O'Rourke</person> from <gpe>Gardner</gpe> <gpe>Massachusetts</gpe> /.


I 'm happy that someone 's finally trying to do something to ward off these child attacks before rather than focus on them after /.


from West Hollywood Californ- /-

from <gpe>West Hollywood</gpe> <gpe>Californ-</gpe> /-


Dan I know your intentions are good /.

<person>Dan</person> I know your intentions are good /.


but your drive to stop sex offenders before they commit a crime sounds a bit like a southern lynch mob in the sixties /.

but your drive to stop sex offenders before they commit a crime sounds a bit like a southern lynch mob in <date>the sixties</date> /.


Really /.


it 's a lynch mob mentality to want to find wanted sex offenders /.


Your emails Abrams Report one word at MSNBC dot com /.


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Coming up , how one penny pinching motorist thought he was getting back at the cop who gave him a speeding ticket /.

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Did n't really work /.


Our Oh Please is up next /.

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Oh please you ever wondered how to get back at the police for writing you a speeding ticket /?


One man in Moorhead Minnesota thought he could do just that by finding good use for all /-

<cardinal>One</cardinal> man in <gpe>Moorhead</gpe> <gpe>Minnesota</gpe> thought he could do just that by finding good use for all /-


The driver paid for the one hundred and twenty dollar ticket with twelve thousand pennies /.

The driver paid for the <money>one hundred and twenty dollar</money> ticket with <money>twelve thousand pennies</money> /.


Seattle man was issued a speeding citation for driving seventy in a fifty mile per hour zone /.

<gpe>Seattle</gpe> man was issued a speeding citation for driving <cardinal>seventy</cardinal> in a <quantity>fifty mile</quantity> per hour zone /.


Speedster showed up to court hauling a small garbage can full of pennies /.


Court had the final laugh though making the guy wait at court until every was counted offsite at a bank /.


That does it for us tonight /.

That does it for us <time>tonight</time> /.


Coming up next Hardball with Chris Matthews /.

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Have a great weekend /.


We got a big week next week /.

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so we 'll see you /.


Should the peace include military reservists /?


And why wo n't they let Bob Novak speak /?

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The Story of Teeth -LRB- 6 -RRB-

The Story of Teeth -LRB- <cardinal>6</cardinal> -RRB-


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Poster : duduyuu -LRB- Xiaobai - not the little dog of Shin - Chan 's , but a pot -RRB- , Area : Beijing .

Poster : <person>duduyuu</person> -LRB- <person>Xiaobai</person> - not the little dog of <person>Shin - Chan 's</person> , but a pot -RRB- , Area : <gpe>Beijing</gpe> .


Title : The Story of Teeth -LRB- 6 -RRB- .

Title : The Story of Teeth -LRB- <cardinal>6</cardinal> -RRB- .


Originating site : BBS Unknown Space -LRB- Thu Jan 25 21:38:45 2007 -RRB- .

Originating site : BBS Unknown Space -LRB- <date>Thu Jan 25</date> <time>21:38:45</time> <date>2007</date> -RRB- .


I have kept the good habit of having my teeth cleaned ever since I knew it could claim my life if I abruptly go to clean my teeth after years of leaving them uncleaned .

I have kept the good habit of having my teeth cleaned ever since I knew it could claim my life if I abruptly go to clean my teeth after <date>years</date> of leaving them uncleaned .


After my still upright but " left - tilting " teeth crouched in my mouth safely and soundly for another two years , another revolution erupted half a year after I graduated and found a job .

After my still upright but " left - tilting " teeth crouched in my mouth safely and soundly for <date>another two years</date> , another revolution erupted <date>half a year</date> after I graduated and found a job .


The revolution could be said a rudimentary one , which made me decide eventually to eliminate all the betrayers and heretics in one action !.


The incident was caused by a molar .


The location of the tooth was just next to the broken wisdom tooth that led to my first visit to an American dentist .

The location of the tooth was just next to the broken wisdom tooth that led to my <ordinal>first</ordinal> visit to an <norp>American</norp> dentist .


For some unknown reason , when I was eating the other day , the tooth suddenly ached during the meal , and it was very painful .


Unexpected I heard a " crack " while I was eating , and part of the tooth fell off !.


I could not remember eating anything hard ?!.


I rushed to the dentist , who said root canal therapy upon seeing it , your dental nerve had come out !.


I did not know what root canal meant but thought the name was quite fancy .


It was after I began to receive it that I found it really painful !.


For example killing the nerves , and dealing with the dental crown ...


I asked the dentist then why my tooth broke .


After examining my 25 teeth , the dentist told me seriously that the teeth on the right side were somewhat " cross biting " due to the " parallel shift " of my teeth , such that the upper and lower right teeth were always against each other .

After examining my <cardinal>25</cardinal> teeth , the dentist told me seriously that the teeth on the right side were somewhat " cross biting " due to the " parallel shift " of my teeth , such that the upper and lower right teeth were always against each other .


The wrong position had led to uneven abrasions , resulting in the broken tooth .


I asked what solutions are available ?


The dentist said " correction . "


Thus , three years after I ran away from the " brigand orthodontist , " I stepped into the orthodontist 's office again ...

Thus , <date>three years</date> after I ran away from the " brigand orthodontist , " I stepped into the orthodontist 's office again ...


Hard work without talent is a shame , but talent without hardwork is a tragedy !


-LRB- are you a shame or a tragedy ?? or maybe a " Shamgerdy ? " -RRB- .


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Guo Kai 's Economic Notes : Your uncle is just your uncle .

<person>Guo Kai 's Economic Notes</person> : Your uncle is just your uncle .


Guo Kai 's Economic Notes

<person>Guo Kai 's Economic Notes</person>


This morning I went to the supermarket with Dad , and when it came time to check out I discovered something that everybody probably knows : not everybody buys the same things .


Of course this is a no - brainer , but this is actually a major problem faced by me and many other people whenever we discuss economic issues or economic phenomena .


Most of the time , economic policy and economic theory are not aimed at individuals .


In terms of probability , if you explain the behavior of a specific individual , for example your uncle , using any economic theory , the probability that it will be accurate is virtually 0 .

In terms of probability , if you explain the behavior of a specific individual , for example your uncle , using any economic theory , the probability that it will be accurate is virtually <cardinal>0</cardinal> .


In fact , in the great majority of cases the economic theory is aimed at an entire group , or a subgroup .


In terms of averages , accuracy is the goal of many economic theories -LRB- here I 'm being inaccurate ; I hope the experts will not take it too literally , especially those with IO expertise -RRB- .


But with regard to an ordinary person , he may never see the whole group , he sees only his co-workers , his relatives and his friends , the group of people familiar to him ; add up all the people in this group and they may number 200 , and that is already a lot of people .

But with regard to an ordinary person , he may never see the whole group , he sees only his co-workers , his relatives and his friends , the group of people familiar to him ; add up all the people in this group and they may number <cardinal>200</cardinal> , and that is already a lot of people .


Below I am going to refer to these 200 people collectively as " his uncle . "

Below I am going to refer to these <cardinal>200</cardinal> people collectively as " his uncle . "


So whenever you discuss an economic theory with someone , the response of a perfectly ordinary person would be : My uncle is n't like that , so this theory is baloney .


In other words , everybody tends to mistake the part for the whole .


Here , mistaking the part for the whole is not derogatory ; it is a limitation of the human race itself ; you have it and I have it .


If Americans had learned not to mistake the part for the whole , they might not have made such a mess of the world .

If <norp>Americans</norp> had learned not to mistake the part for the whole , they might not have made such a mess of the world .


I believe that they made such a complete mess of the Middle East to a very large extent because they applied their own common sense to understanding the Middle East , which is a completely different place from the United States .

I believe that they made such a complete mess of <loc>the Middle East</loc> to a very large extent because they applied their own common sense to understanding <loc>the Middle East</loc> , which is a completely different place from <gpe>the United States</gpe> .


On this issue , China does not have much basis for being self - congratulatory ; China 's rapid rise has even caused some people to have a sort of misconception - that whatever China does is right - and this is in fact a manifestation of narrow - mindedness .

On this issue , <gpe>China</gpe> does not have much basis for being self - congratulatory ; <gpe>China</gpe> 's rapid rise has even caused some people to have a sort of misconception - that whatever <gpe>China</gpe> does is right - and this is in fact a manifestation of narrow - mindedness .


Therefore I believe it is extremely important to recognize that one 's own knowledge has limitations .


We need to maintain a sufficiently open attitude toward things that do n't correspond to our common sense .


So just because every time your uncle goes to the supermarket he buys hog head meat does n't mean that we should immediately assume that any theory that does not predict people going to the supermarket will buy hog head meat is wrong .


When you feel other people are talking baloney , and what other people say does not correspond to your " common sense , " you should at the same time recognize that your uncle is only your uncle , he is not the whole world .


What type of skin fits for beautification ?


Beauty Lover


-- Shock treatments can easily make you hypersensitive ; for getting rid of blemishes it 's best to go to the hospital .


In the public 's eyes , the beauty industry has always been both praised and blamed : on the one hand , it meets everybody 's demand for beauty , but on the other , after much major work on the face , many people feel that the results are limited , and in extreme cases the result is n't beauty but disfigurement .


Why is this ?


In the view of clinical dermatologists , the results at beauty salons are not obvious and there may even be problems .


In fact because not only is the consumer unlucky , not choosing the right beauty salon , but to a great extent this is determined by whether they choose the right occasion for beautification and understand the results .


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Qingqing 20070107 .


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Cloudy , temperature approx. 2 degrees .

Cloudy , temperature approx. <quantity>2 degrees</quantity> .


While Qingqing was rinsing her mouth for the second time last night , mom said : leaks air and leaks rain .

While <person>Qingqing</person> was rinsing her mouth for the <ordinal>second</ordinal> time <time>last night</time> , mom said : leaks air and leaks rain .


Qingqing was unhappy upon hearing that .

<person>Qingqing</person> was unhappy upon hearing that .


She pounded mom with her little fists .


Dad also scolded mom : you also leaked air and leaked rain while your permanent teeth grew in your childhood .


Qingqing looked at Mom with water in the mouth .

<person>Qingqing</person> looked at Mom with water in the mouth .


At last , she said to mom after spitting it into the basin : I meant to spew it on your head .


Dad praised Qingqing for being thoughtful : knowing what she should do .

Dad praised <person>Qingqing</person> for being thoughtful : knowing what she should do .


Qingqing played in bed after waking up in the morning .

<person>Qingqing</person> played in bed after waking up in <time>the morning</time> .


Dad yelled , but she would n't get up and wanted to play a little longer .


Dad looked at Qingqing and teased Qingqing : how come this kid opens her eyes while sleeping ?

Dad looked at <person>Qingqing</person> and teased <person>Qingqing</person> : how come this kid opens her eyes while sleeping ?


How come this kid sounds like " enen " while snoring ?


Qingqing told dad : I am just teasing you .

<person>Qingqing</person> told dad : I am just teasing you .


After she got up and dressed , she would n't eat the red bean buns or red sticky rice congee prepared by dad .


Instead she asked for soaked biscuits and did drawings in the room after finishing .


After a simple lunch , Qingqing wanted to buy stickers at Jinsheng .

After a simple lunch , <person>Qingqing</person> wanted to buy stickers at <loc>Jinsheng</loc> .


She bumped into grandma on her way and also saw a lost dog advertisement on a wire pole .


Dad read to Qingqing , and then we arrived at Jinrunfa by shuttle bus , but could n't find the stickers that Qingqing wanted .

Dad read to <person>Qingqing</person> , and then we arrived at <fac>Jinrunfa</fac> by shuttle bus , but could n't find the stickers that <person>Qingqing</person> wanted .


We then went to Jinsheng , where we finally found them .

We then went to <loc>Jinsheng</loc> , where we finally found them .


Dad bought four volumes : .

Dad bought <cardinal>four</cardinal> volumes : .


One for each of her two sisters .

<cardinal>One</cardinal> for each of her <cardinal>two</cardinal> sisters .


One to be placed at Qingqing 's home and one at her kindergarten .

<cardinal>One</cardinal> to be placed at Qingqing 's home and <cardinal>one</cardinal> at her kindergarten .


Qingqing arranged everything very well .

<person>Qingqing</person> arranged everything very well .


We got on the bus to dine out .


Mom asked Qingqing to make a choice : is the back of the bus empty or full .

<person>Mom</person> asked <person>Qingqing</person> to make a choice : is the back of the bus empty or full .


Qingqing first chose " full . "

<person>Qingqing</person> first chose " full . "


When it was almost there , Mom asked Qingqing to choose again , and Qingqing chose " empty . "

When it was almost there , <person>Mom</person> asked <person>Qingqing</person> to choose again , and <person>Qingqing</person> chose " empty . "


Qingqing said after getting off : I won .

<person>Qingqing</person> said after getting off : I won .


Mom said : I intentionally let you win , otherwise you will lose .

<person>Mom</person> said : I intentionally let you win , otherwise you will lose .


Qingqing wanted to pee on the way , dad had to hold Qingqing to pee by the tree .

<person>Qingqing</person> wanted to pee on the way , <person>dad</person> had to hold <person>Qingqing</person> to pee by the tree .


It was very cold , and dad tidied Qingqing 's pants quickly .

It was very cold , and <person>dad</person> tidied <person>Qingqing</person> 's pants quickly .


Qingqing wanted to play with the sticker after we arrived at the hotel .

<person>Qingqing</person> wanted to play with the sticker after we arrived at the hotel .


Dad discussed conditions with Qingqing : dad will let you play if you eat well .

<person>Dad</person> discussed conditions with <person>Qingqing</person> : <person>dad</person> will let you play if you eat well .


Qingqing agreed and began to play again .

<person>Qingqing</person> agreed and began to play again .


Mom said she wanted to swap to another place , but dad wanted to let Qingqing stay longer in the sun .

<person>Mom</person> said she wanted to swap to another place , but <person>dad</person> wanted to let <person>Qingqing</person> stay longer in the sun .


Qingqing was so obsessed with playing that she would n't have dinner .

<person>Qingqing</person> was so obsessed with playing that she would n't have dinner .


Dad had to put away Qingqing 's sticker book and asked Qingqing to eat well .

<person>Dad</person> had to put away <person>Qingqing</person> 's sticker book and asked <person>Qingqing</person> to eat well .


Qingqing said it was spicy and she would n't eat .

<person>Qingqing</person> said it was spicy and she would n't eat .


Mom promised to buy Qingqing white fungus broth later .

<person>Mom</person> promised to buy <person>Qingqing</person> white fungus broth later .


Qingqing became happy immediately and played on .

<person>Qingqing</person> became happy immediately and played on .


We walked home after eating , and Qingqing played in her own room after dinner .

We walked home after eating , and <person>Qingqing</person> played in her own room after dinner .


Dad said it was time to sleep , but she would n't sleep until after she played for a while in bed .

<person>Dad</person> said it was time to sleep , but she would n't sleep until after she played for a while in bed .


She told dad that she wanted to take one book to the kindergarten .

She told <person>dad</person> that she wanted to take <cardinal>one</cardinal> book to the kindergarten .


Qingqing said today : the teacher said last time that she would repay the money she borrowed from me the next day , but she has not repaid yet .

<person>Qingqing</person> said today : the teacher said last time that she would repay the money she borrowed from me <date>the next day</date> , but she has not repaid yet .


Oh ! Grown - ups would n't live up to their words either .


Dad promised to remind the teacher for Qingqing .

<person>Dad</person> promised to remind the teacher for <person>Qingqing</person> .


In Commemoration of Mao Zedong 's 113th Birthday , Large - scale Evening Gala " The Sun that Never Sets " Premieres in the Capital !

In Commemoration of <person>Mao Zedong 's</person> <ordinal>113th</ordinal> Birthday , Large - scale Evening Gala <event>" The Sun that Never Sets "</event> Premieres in the Capital !


MCOA Cui Shizhong


Teachers and students at colleges in the capital , in building a harmonious society , reminisce about the great man 's charisma .


------ " The Sun that Never Sets , " a Large - scale Evening Gala in Grand Commemoration of the 113th Birthday of Comrade Mao Zedong

------ " <event>The Sun that Never Sets</event> , " a Large - scale Evening Gala in Grand Commemoration of the <ordinal>113th</ordinal> Birthday of Comrade <person>Mao Zedong</person>


Comrade Mao Zedong was a great Marxist , a great proletarian revolutionary , strategist , and theoretician .

Comrade <person>Mao Zedong</person> was a great <norp>Marxist</norp> , a great proletarian revolutionary , strategist , and theoretician .


He is China 's greatest patriot and national hero of recent times .

He is <gpe>China</gpe> 's greatest patriot and national hero of recent times .


He was a great man of the times who led the Chinese people to completely change their own destiny and national image .

He was a great man of the times who led the <norp>Chinese</norp> people to completely change their own destiny and national image .


Mao Zedong is the pride of the Chinese people and the Chinese nation .

<person>Mao Zedong</person> is the pride of the <norp>Chinese</norp> people and the <norp>Chinese</norp> nation .


Mao Zedong transformed China and influenced the world as a great historical figure of the times .

<person>Mao Zedong</person> transformed <gpe>China</gpe> and influenced the world as a great historical figure of the times .


Mao Zedong 's name , Mao Zedong 's spirit , and Mao Zedong 's thought will have increasing influence on China and the world .

<person>Mao Zedong 's</person> name , <person>Mao Zedong 's</person> spirit , and <person>Mao Zedong 's</person> thought will have increasing influence on <gpe>China</gpe> and the world .


Just as General Secretary Hu Jintao said : " In all times and under all circumstances , we must always hold high the great banner of Mao Zedong Thought . "

Just as General Secretary <person>Hu Jintao</person> said : " In all times and under all circumstances , we must always hold high the great banner of <person>Mao Zedong</person> Thought . "


" The East is red , the sun has risen .


China has brought forth Mao Zedong .

<gpe>China</gpe> has brought forth <person>Mao Zedong</person> .


He works for the people 's happiness .


He is the people 's great savior . "


A melody with infinite passion and vigor exuding from the hearts of hundreds of millions of people bounced and echoed in the sky above the earth , touching even more hearts and souls of those with different skin colors , flowing over countries with different cultures .

A melody with infinite passion and vigor exuding from the hearts of <cardinal>hundreds of millions</cardinal> of people bounced and echoed in the sky above the earth , touching even more hearts and souls of those with different skin colors , flowing over countries with different cultures .


Just as MCOA says : whoever is the first to pay attention to Chairman Mao , whoever is the first to learn about Chairman Mao , whoever is the first to profoundly understand the essence of Mao Zedong Thought , whoever is the first to use Mao Zedong Thought and Mao Zedong Spirit to guide one 's actions and work will be the first to enjoy the benefits , the first to become strong , the first to be happy , the first to possess wealth , and the first to gain respect of the people .

Just as <person>MCOA</person> says : whoever is the <ordinal>first</ordinal> to pay attention to Chairman <person>Mao</person> , whoever is the <ordinal>first</ordinal> to learn about Chairman <person>Mao</person> , whoever is the <ordinal>first</ordinal> to profoundly understand the essence of <person>Mao Zedong</person> Thought , whoever is the <ordinal>first</ordinal> to use <person>Mao Zedong</person> Thought and <person>Mao Zedong</person> Spirit to guide one 's actions and work will be the <ordinal>first</ordinal> to enjoy the benefits , the <ordinal>first</ordinal> to become strong , the <ordinal>first</ordinal> to be happy , the <ordinal>first</ordinal> to possess wealth , and the <ordinal>first</ordinal> to gain respect of the people .


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Jointly sponsored by the Beijing Institute of Civil Engineering and Architecture , " The Sun that Never Sets " national performing tour organizing committee , and the National Market for High - Technology Industry Work Committee , and coordinated exclusively by Zhengzhou State Rail Logistics Rapid Transport Co. . Ltd. , the large - scale evening gala " The Sun that Never Sets " will premiere on the evening of December 27 , 2006 at the Beijing Institute of Civil Engineering and Architecture .

Jointly sponsored by <org>the Beijing Institute of Civil Engineering and Architecture</org> , <org>" The Sun that Never Sets "</org> national performing tour organizing committee , and <org>the National Market for High - Technology Industry Work Committee</org> , and coordinated exclusively by <org>Zhengzhou State Rail Logistics Rapid Transport Co. . Ltd.</org> , the large - scale evening gala <event>" The Sun that Never Sets "</event> will premiere on the evening of <date>December 27 , 2006</date> at <fac>the Beijing Institute of Civil Engineering and Architecture</fac> .


The theme of this classic red event is cherishing the memory of the monumental contributions of Comrade Mao Zedong , the proletarian revolutionary , carrying forward the spirit of the Red Army 's Long March , educating and inspiring the entire party and people of the country 's various ethnic groups to unite closely around the Party Central Committee led by Comrade Hu Jintao as general secretary , adhering to a scientific approach to development , pursuing the truth and focusing on practical work in promoting initiatives and innovation , and making utmost efforts to build a socialist and harmonious society .

The theme of this classic red event is cherishing the memory of the monumental contributions of Comrade <person>Mao Zedong</person> , the proletarian revolutionary , carrying forward the spirit of <org>the Red Army 's</org> <event>Long March</event> , educating and inspiring the entire party and people of the country 's various ethnic groups to unite closely around <org>the Party Central Committee</org> led by Comrade <person>Hu Jintao</person> as general secretary , adhering to a scientific approach to development , pursuing the truth and focusing on practical work in promoting initiatives and innovation , and making utmost efforts to build a socialist and harmonious society .


This year 's commemorative event marks the first time " The Sun that Never Sets " has entered a university campus , and for the first time is exclusively supported by the generosity of well - known philanthropist entrepreneur Jiang Yongzhi .

This <date>year</date> 's commemorative event marks the <ordinal>first</ordinal> time <org>" The Sun that Never Sets "</org> has entered a university campus , and for the <person>first</person> time is exclusively supported by the generosity of well - known philanthropist entrepreneur <person>Jiang Yongzhi</person> .


From a keen sense of responsibility toward successors of the future , without expecting any reward , he supports Red Education to recalibrate the outlook on life and values of contemporary college students , in treasuring the hard - won nature of beautiful life , and to encourage college students of the capital to exert themselves for the great revival of the Chinese nation .

From a keen sense of responsibility toward successors of the future , without expecting any reward , he supports Red Education to recalibrate the outlook on life and values of contemporary college students , in treasuring the hard - won nature of beautiful life , and to encourage college students of the capital to exert themselves for the great revival of the <norp>Chinese</norp> nation .


ZT Han Han : Car Knowledge and Manifestation of Life -LRB- Regarding the car accident involving that beautiful/talented Taiwanese girl -RRB-

ZT Han Han : Car Knowledge and Manifestation of Life -LRB- Regarding the car accident involving that beautiful/talented <norp>Taiwanese</norp> girl -RRB-


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Title : ZT Han Han : Car Knowledge and Manifestation of Life -LRB- Regarding the car accident involving that beautiful/talented Taiwanese girl -RRB-

Title : ZT Han Han : Car Knowledge and Manifestation of Life -LRB- Regarding the car accident involving that beautiful/talented <norp>Taiwanese</norp> girl -RRB-


Poster 's Site : mitbbs.com BBS -LRB- Wed Jan 31 11:16:04 2007 -RRB-

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A few days ago , another Taiwanese star passed away .

<date>A few days ago</date> , another <norp>Taiwanese</norp> star passed away .


I had never heard of her .


I hear she was a talented beauty .


What a great pity !


The accident was a car crash .


Much of the entertainment news denounced that +her car 's front airbag failed to release , which caused the death .


In fact , the MINI COOPER she was riding in is not what the reports said .

In fact , <product>the MINI COOPER</product> she was riding in is not what the reports said .


It is the car with the highest safety index .


It is sold for 190,000 HK dollars in Hong Kong .

It is sold for <money>190,000 HK dollars</money> in <gpe>Hong Kong</gpe> .


Polo also sells for more than 140,000 HK dollars .

<product>Polo</product> also sells for more than <money>140,000 HK dollars</money> .


It 's just a cute little car , preferred by girls .


But safety is surely not too big of a problem .


The collision happened on the side and rear .


So , the side airbag and air curtain were fully opened .


They opened at the time of first collision with the protective fence .

They opened at the time of <ordinal>first</ordinal> collision with the protective fence .


The first collision was with the protective fence only , and the impact on the people was very small .

The <ordinal>first</ordinal> collision was with the protective fence only , and the impact on the people was very small .


In addition , there was the protection of the air curtain .


So , there would surely not be a big problem .


The real fatal collision was the second one from the tailgating truck .

The real fatal collision was the <ordinal>second</ordinal> one from the tailgating truck .


At that time , all the airbags were already deflated .


There was no protective effect .


Furthermore , the force of this one was extremely large .


If the car had been stopped at an angle , then the head of the person sitting on one side would surely have hit the glass or the B column .


Meanwhile , there would not have been too much of a problem for someone on the other side .


This is common knowledge .


Then it came down to who had the bad luck of sitting on the side of the car that was angled out .


It was perfectly correct for the front airbag not to open , because the front of the car was not damaged at all .


of the sensors received any signal of a collision .


Just imagine , this was a rear collision .


The people went backward abruptly .


Their bodies could have been supported by the seats , but the impact on their necks and heads was tremendous .


When they went abruptly backward , any additional misfortune of the front airbag opening for no reason would have eliminated any chance of survival .


So , of all the cars in the world , even a Rolls - Royce , the front airbag will not open during a rear collision .

So , of all the cars in the world , even a <product>Rolls - Royce</product> , the front airbag will not open during a rear collision .


If the front airbag opened after being tailgated , that would be a quality problem , and would be extremely dangerous .


The safety airbag 's eruption could knock someone to death .


So , infants are strictly forbidden from sitting in the front seat .


That was how the whole accident took place .


The result of the accident investigation division will not be different from this .


For this kind of accident , conclusions can be drawn from a single glance at the car wreckage .


The car and the car manufacturer have no fault .


All of the car 's passive safety protections had already fully carried out their functions .


So , it is extremely ridiculous and unscientific to blame and suspect the car and the car manufacturer for such an accident .


In particular , speculation about why the front airbags did not open was very amateurish .


Only by not opening would it have been correct .


If they had opened , her assistant might still be lying in the hospital .


If an accident occurs on the freeway , please get out of the car and leave immediately if you can move .


Many freeway accidents occur simply because people stay inside the car and sort out their thoughts , following which there is a fatal crash from a car following behind .


About death , I have always believed that they do not leave the world .


They only leave the human world .


They are surely sharing the same world with us , with a different manifestation of life .


It is in change that we find purpose .


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Devastating Critique of the Arab World by One of Its Own

Devastating Critique of the <norp>Arab</norp> World by One of Its Own


Thanks again to my friend Nick Keck for passing this along via e-mail .

Thanks again to my friend <person>Nick Keck</person> for passing this along via e-mail .


It is the text of a speech given by an Arab gentleman before the advisory board of a large multi-nation corporation .

It is the text of a speech given by an <norp>Arab</norp> gentleman before the advisory board of a large multi-nation corporation .


It 's a long but very worthwhile read .


`` A View from the Eye of the Storm ''

<work_of_art>`` A View from the Eye of the Storm ''</work_of_art>


Talk delivered by Haim Harari at a meeting of the International Advisory Board of a large multi-national corporation , April , 2004 :

Talk delivered by <person>Haim Harari</person> at a meeting of <org>the International Advisory Board</org> of a large multi-national corporation , <date>April , 2004</date> :


`` As you know , I usually provide the scientific and technological `` entertainment '' in our meetings , but , on this occasion , our Chairman suggested that I present my own personal view on events in the part of the world from which I come .


I have never been and I will never be a Government official and I have no privileged information .

I have never been and I will never be a <org>Government</org> official and I have no privileged information .


My perspective is entirely based on what I see , on what I read and on the fact that my family has lived in this region for almost 200 years .

My perspective is entirely based on what I see , on what I read and on the fact that my family has lived in this region for <date>almost 200 years</date> .


You may regard my views as those of the proverbial taxi driver , which you are supposed to question , when you visit a country .


I could have shared with you some fascinating facts and some personal thoughts about the Israeli - Arab conflict .

I could have shared with you some fascinating facts and some personal thoughts about <event>the Israeli - Arab conflict</event> .


However , I will touch upon it only in passing .


I prefer to devote most of my remarks to the broader picture of the region and its place in world events .


I refer to the entire area between Pakistan and Morocco , which is predominantly Arab , predominantly Moslem , but includes many non-Arab and also significant non-Moslem minorities .

I refer to the entire area between <gpe>Pakistan</gpe> and <gpe>Morocco</gpe> , which is predominantly <norp>Arab</norp> , predominantly <norp>Moslem</norp> , but includes many <norp>non-Arab</norp> and also significant <norp>non-Moslem</norp> minorities .


Why do I put aside Israel and its own immediate neighborhood ?

Why do I put aside <gpe>Israel</gpe> and its own immediate neighborhood ?


Because Israel and any problems related to it , in spite of what you might read or hear in the world media , is not the central issue , and has never been the central issue in the upheaval in the region .

Because <gpe>Israel</gpe> and any problems related to it , in spite of what you might read or hear in the world media , is not the central issue , and has never been the central issue in the upheaval in the region .


Yes , there is a 100 year - old Israeli - Arab conflict ,

Yes , there is a <date>100 year - old</date> <event>Israeli - Arab conflict</event> ,


but it is not where the main show is .


The millions who died in the Iran - Iraq war had nothing to do with Israel .

The <ordinal>millions</ordinal> who died in <event>the Iran - Iraq war</event> had nothing to do with <gpe>Israel</gpe> .


The mass murder happening right now in Sudan , where the Arab Moslem regime is massacring its black Christian citizens , has nothing to do with Israel .

The mass murder happening right now in <gpe>Sudan</gpe> , where the <norp>Arab</norp> <norp>Moslem</norp> regime is massacring its black <norp>Christian</norp> citizens , has nothing to do with <gpe>Israel</gpe> .


The frequent reports from Algeria about the murders of hundreds of civilians in one village or another by other Algerians have nothing to do with Israel .

The frequent reports from <gpe>Algeria</gpe> about the murders of <ordinal>hundreds</ordinal> of civilians in <ordinal>one</ordinal> village or another by other <norp>Algerians</norp> have nothing to do with <gpe>Israel</gpe> .


Saddam Hussein did not invade Kuwait , endanger Saudi Arabia and butcher his own people because of Israel .

<person>Saddam Hussein</person> did not invade <gpe>Kuwait</gpe> , endanger <gpe>Saudi Arabia</gpe> and butcher his own people because of <gpe>Israel</gpe> .


Egypt did not use poison gas against Yemen in the 60's because of Israel .

<gpe>Egypt</gpe> did not use poison gas against <gpe>Yemen</gpe> in <date>the 60's</date> because of <gpe>Israel</gpe> .


Assad the Father did not kill tens of thousands of his own citizens in one week in El Hamma in Syria because of Israel .

<percent>Assad the Father</percent> did not kill <ordinal>tens of thousands</ordinal> of his own citizens in <date>one week</date> in <gpe>El Hamma</gpe> in <gpe>Syria</gpe> because of <gpe>Israel</gpe> .


The Taliban control of Afghanistan and the civil war there had nothing to do with Israel .

The <org>Taliban</org> control of <gpe>Afghanistan</gpe> and the civil war there had nothing to do with <gpe>Israel</gpe> .


The Libyan blowing up of the Pan - Am flight had nothing to do with Israel , and I could go on and on and on .

The <norp>Libyan</norp> blowing up of the <org>Pan - Am</org> flight had nothing to do with <gpe>Israel</gpe> , and I could go on and on and on .


The root of the trouble is that this entire Moslem region is totally dysfunctional , by any standard of the word , and would have been so even if Israel had joined the Arab league and an independent Palestine had existed for 100 years .

The root of the trouble is that this entire <norp>Moslem</norp> region is totally dysfunctional , by any standard of the word , and would have been so even if <gpe>Israel</gpe> had joined the <norp>Arab</norp> league and an independent <gpe>Palestine</gpe> had existed for <date>100 years</date> .


The 22 member countries of the Arab league , from Mauritania to the Gulf States , have a total population of 300 millions , larger than the US and almost as large as the EU before its expansion .

The <cardinal>22</cardinal> member countries of the <norp>Arab</norp> league , from <gpe>Mauritania</gpe> to <gpe>the Gulf States</gpe> , have a total population of <cardinal>300 millions</cardinal> , larger than the <gpe>US</gpe> and almost as large as the <org>EU</org> before its expansion .


They have a land area larger than either the US or all of Europe .

They have a land area larger than either the <gpe>US</gpe> or all of <loc>Europe</loc> .


These 22 countries , with all their oil and natural resources , have a combined GDP smaller than that of Netherlands plus Belgium and equal to half of the GDP of California alone .

These <cardinal>22</cardinal> countries , with all their oil and natural resources , have a combined GDP smaller than that of <gpe>Netherlands</gpe> plus <gpe>Belgium</gpe> and equal to half of the GDP of <gpe>California</gpe> alone .


Within this meager GDP , the gaps between rich and poor are beyond belief


and too many of the rich made their money not by succeeding in business , but by being corrupt rulers .


The social status of women is far below what it was in the Western World 150 years ago .

The social status of women is far below what it was in <loc>the Western World</loc> <date>150 years ago</date> .


Human rights are below any reasonable standard , in spite of the grotesque fact that Libya was elected Chair of the UN Human Rights commission .

Human rights are below any reasonable standard , in spite of the grotesque fact that <gpe>Libya</gpe> was elected Chair of <org>the UN Human Rights commission</org> .


According to a report prepared by a committee of Arab intellectuals and published under the auspices of the U.N. , the number of books translated by the entire Arab world is much smaller than what little Greece alone translates .

According to a report prepared by a committee of <norp>Arab</norp> intellectuals and published under the auspices of the <org>U.N.</org> , the number of books translated by the entire <norp>Arab</norp> world is much smaller than what little <gpe>Greece</gpe> alone translates .


The total number of scientific publications of 300 million Arabs is less than that of 6 million Israelis .

The total number of scientific publications of <cardinal>300 million</cardinal> <norp>Arabs</norp> is less than that of <cardinal>6 million</cardinal> <norp>Israelis</norp> .


Birth rates in the region are very high , increasing the poverty , the social gaps and the cultural decline .


And all of this is happening in a region , which only 30 years ago , was believed to be the next wealthy part of the world , and in a Moslem area , which developed , at some point in history , one of the most advanced cultures in the world .

And all of this is happening in a region , which only <date>30 years ago</date> , was believed to be the next wealthy part of the world , and in a <norp>Moslem</norp> area , which developed , at some point in history , <cardinal>one</cardinal> of the most advanced cultures in the world .


It is fair to say that this creates an unprecedented breeding ground for cruel dictators , terror networks , fanaticism , incitement , suicide murders and general decline .


It is also a fact that almost everybody in the region blames this situation on the United States , on Israel , on Western Civilization , on Judaism and Christianity , on anyone and anything , except themselves .

It is also a fact that almost everybody in the region blames this situation on <gpe>the United States</gpe> , on <gpe>Israel</gpe> , on Western Civilization , on <org>Judaism</org> and <org>Christianity</org> , on anyone and anything , except themselves .


A word about the millions of decent , honest , good people who are either devout Moslems or are not very religious but grew up in Moslem families :

A word about the <cardinal>millions</cardinal> of decent , honest , good people who are either devout <norp>Moslems</norp> or are not very religious but grew up in <norp>Moslem</norp> families :


They are double victims of an outside world , which now develops Islamophobia , and of their own environment which breaks their heart by being totally dysfunctional .


The problem is that the vast silent majority of these Moslems are not part of the terror and the incitement , but they also do not stand up political leaders , intellectuals , business people and many others .

The problem is that the vast silent majority of these <norp>Moslems</norp> are not part of the terror and the incitement , but they also do not stand up political leaders , intellectuals , business people and many others .


Many of them can certainly tell right from wrong , but are afraid to express their views .


The events of the last few years have amplified four issues , which have always existed , but have never been as rampant as in the present upheaval in the region .

The events of <date>the last few years</date> have amplified <cardinal>four</cardinal> issues , which have always existed , but have never been as rampant as in the present upheaval in the region .


A few more years may pass before everybody acknowledges that it is a World War ,

<date>A few more years</date> may pass before everybody acknowledges that it is <event>a World War</event> ,


but we are already well into it .