Um by ten o'clock you 're finished uh /-

Um by <time>ten o'clock</time> you 're finished uh /-


Were you hungry at this point /?


Oh I 'm starving you know /.


I mean I went to bed with nothing in my stomach either /.


Maybe you know just a piece of ham or s- /-


You know just grab something to put in my stomach before I went to bed and head to the track and maybe lay down for an hour and then uh head to the hotbox for a couple hours four or five pounds of water /.

You know just grab something to put in my stomach before I went to bed and head to the track and maybe lay down for <time>an hour</time> and then uh head to the hotbox for a couple hours <quantity>four or five pounds</quantity> of water /.


The hotbox is a sauna a fixture in almost every jockey locker room /.


The hotbox sweatbox /.


Sellers would often spend two hours inside pooling or sweating off extra pounds /.

Sellers would often spend <time>two hours</time> inside pooling or sweating off extra pounds /.


And are you miserable the whole time you 're in there /?


Oh it 's horrible /.


You have to be very weak /.


Weak /.


Ca n't have nothing /.


Yeah you 're already dehydrated you know /?


So for more than twenty years you went through this process of basically not eating anything during the day sitting in the sauna a couple hours a day sweating two or three pounds off getting back on your horses training and maybe maybe having a piece of ham /.

So for <date>more than twenty years</date> you went through this process of basically not eating anything during the day sitting in the sauna <time>a couple hours</time> a day sweating <quantity>two or three pounds</quantity> off getting back on your horses training and maybe maybe having a piece of ham /.


and that 's all you had to sustain you /.


If I did eat anything sometime , when at my worst three or five to six seven times a day I was heaving /.

If I did eat anything sometime , when at my worst <cardinal>three</cardinal> or <cardinal>five</cardinal> to <cardinal>six</cardinal> <cardinal>seven</cardinal> times a day I was heaving /.


Jockies call it heaving or flipping /.


doctors would call it bulimia /.


Overcome by hunger pains Sellers would eat massive amounts of food and then throw it up to make weight /.

Overcome by hunger pains <person>Sellers</person> would eat massive amounts of food and then throw it up to make weight /.


He says a tour of a jockey locker room shows you just how easy and accepted it was /.


These are regular toilets /.


and this is what they call a heaving /.


this is where they heave /.


You know it 's a much different type of commode /.


I do n't know if it was especially made for that purpose /.


but it 's sure not the same as the other /.


and that 's what we used it for /.


Is it true that some of you got so efficient at flipping that you could actually do it without putting your finger down your throat /.


I was one /.


Jockey Shane Sellers just one of the many people you 'll meet tomorrow night in Walking the Thin Line /.

Jockey <person>Shane Sellers</person> just <cardinal>one</cardinal> of the many people you 'll meet <time>tomorrow night</time> in <work_of_art>Walking the Thin Line</work_of_art> /.


It is a special edition of Paula Zahn Now that gets underway at eight pm eastern /.

It is a special edition of <work_of_art>Paula Zahn Now</work_of_art> that gets underway at <time>eight pm eastern</time> /.


Still to come on News Night tonight the Senate shuts down the doors clears the gallery /.

Still to come on <work_of_art>News Night</work_of_art> tonight the <org>Senate</org> shuts down the doors clears the gallery /.


Was today 's rare closed session needed to gaurd national secrets /.

Was <date>today</date> 's rare closed session needed to gaurd national secrets /.


or was it a political forum /.


And the president wants billions to help fight a possible bird flu pandemic /.

And the president wants <cardinal>billions</cardinal> to help fight a possible bird flu pandemic /.


Sounds like a lot of money /.


but will it actually be enough /?


Also tonight rap star Fifty Cent may be at the top of the charts /.

Also tonight rap star <person>Fifty Cent</person> may be at the top of the charts /.


but one LA neighborhood is n't buying it /.

but one <gpe>LA</gpe> neighborhood is n't buying it /.


We ca n't say how those who will be voting on Samuel Alito 's nomination to Supreme Court feel about him /.

We ca n't say how those who will be voting on <person>Samuel Alito 's</person> nomination to <org>Supreme Court</org> feel about him /.


but we can say something about how you feel tonight /.

but we can say something about how you feel <time>tonight</time> /.


Here are the results of the CNN USA Today Gallup poll released just minutes ago of those asked about the president 's choice Judge Alito to succeed Justice Sandra Day O'Connor /.

Here are the results of the <org>CNN</org> <org>USA Today</org> <org>Gallup</org> poll released <time>just minutes ago</time> of those asked about the president 's choice Judge <person>Alito</person> to succeed Justice <person>Sandra Day O'Connor</person> /.


Seventeen percent said he 's an excellent choice /.

<percent>Seventeen percent</percent> said he 's an excellent choice /.


twenty - six percent called him a good choice /.

<percent>twenty - six percent</percent> called him a good choice /.


twenty - two percent rated him only fair /.

<percent>twenty - two percent</percent> rated him only fair /.


seventeen percent thought he was a poor choice /.

<percent>seventeen percent</percent> thought he was a poor choice /.


Questions about the facts or what were presented as facts that led the United States into the war in Iraq spilled into open warfare today on the Senate floor /.

Questions about the facts or what were presented as facts that led <gpe>the United States</gpe> into the war in <gpe>Iraq</gpe> spilled into open warfare <date>today</date> on the <org>Senate</org> floor /.


Democrats forced the Senate into a rare closed door session /.

<norp>Democrats</norp> forced the <org>Senate</org> into a rare closed door session /.


Republican leader Bill Frist said the Senate was hijacked /.

<norp>Republican</norp> leader <person>Bill Frist</person> said the <org>Senate</org> was hijacked /.


CNN 's Ed Henry was there /.

<org>CNN</org> 's <person>Ed Henry</person> was there /.


A Democratic sneak attack that sent shock waves through the Senate /.

A <norp>Democratic</norp> sneak attack that sent shock waves through the <org>Senate</org> /.


Mr. President enough time has gone by /.


I demand on behalf of the American people that we understand why these investigations are n't being conducted /.

I demand on behalf of the <norp>American</norp> people that we understand why these investigations are n't being conducted /.


Democratic leader Harry Reed accused Republicans of failing to probe allegations the White House manipulated intelligence to justify the war in Iraq /.

<norp>Democratic</norp> leader <person>Harry Reed</person> accused <norp>Republicans</norp> of failing to probe allegations <org>the White House</org> manipulated intelligence to justify the war in <gpe>Iraq</gpe> /.


And in accordance with rule twenty - one I now move that Senate go into closed session /.

And in accordance with <law>rule twenty - one</law> I now move that <org>Senate</org> go into closed session /.


President I second the motion /.

President I <ordinal>second</ordinal> the motion /.


An easy but rare maneuver with extraordinary consequences /.


The Senate chamber was locked down , television cameras shut off , so law makers could go into secret session to debate /.

The <org>Senate</org> chamber was locked down , television cameras shut off , so law makers could go into secret session to debate /.


Republican leader Bill Frist was enraged /.

<norp>Republican</norp> leader <person>Bill Frist</person> was enraged /.


Not with the previous Democratic leader or the current Democratic leader have ever I been slapped in the face with such an affront to the leadership of this grand institution /.

Not with the previous <norp>Democratic</norp> leader or the current <norp>Democratic</norp> leader have ever I been slapped in the face with such an affront to the leadership of this grand institution /.


There has been at least consideration for the other side of the aisle before a stunt /.


and this is a pure stunt /.


Reed refused to back down demanding the Republican led intelligence committee finish a long awaited report on whether the Bush administration twisted intelligence /.

<person>Reed</person> refused to back down demanding the <norp>Republican</norp> led intelligence committee finish a long awaited report on whether the <person>Bush</person> administration twisted intelligence /.


This investigation has been stymied stopped , obstructions thrown up every step of the way /.


That 's the real slap in the face /.


that 's the slap in the face /.


And today the American people are going to see a little bit of light /.

And <date>today</date> the <norp>American</norp> people are going to see a little bit of light /.


What 's really going on is Democrats feel emboldened by the indictment of Vice President Cheney 's former chief of staff believing this is their chance to issue a broader indictment of the Bush administration /.

What 's really going on is <norp>Democrats</norp> feel emboldened by the indictment of Vice President <person>Cheney</person> 's former chief of staff believing this is their chance to issue a broader indictment of the <person>Bush</person> administration /.


We have lost over two thousand of our best and bravest /.

We have lost <cardinal>over two thousand</cardinal> of our best and bravest /.


over fifteen thousand have been seriously wounded /.

<cardinal>over fifteen thousand</cardinal> have been seriously wounded /.


We are spending more than six million dollars a month with no end in sight /.

We are spending <money>more than six million dollars</money> a month with no end in sight /.


and this Republican led Senate intelligence committee refuses to even ask the hard questions about the misinformation /-

and this <norp>Republican</norp> led <org>Senate</org> intelligence committee refuses to even ask the hard questions about the misinformation /-


Republicans insist they 're completing the investigation /.

<norp>Republicans</norp> insist they 're completing the investigation /.


and this is just a distraction /.


This is purely political /.


This is settling an old political score /.


Democrats say they also want to signal they 're ready to stand up to the Republican majority and may even filibuster the president 's latest Supreme Court pick Samuel Alito a move that would make these events seem like the opening fireworks in a much nastier battle /.

<norp>Democrats</norp> say they also want to signal they 're ready to stand up to the <norp>Republican</norp> majority and may even filibuster the president 's latest <org>Supreme Court</org> pick <person>Samuel Alito</person> a move that would make these events seem like the opening fireworks in a much nastier battle /.


Ed Henry CNN Capitol Hill /.

Ed Henry <org>CNN</org> <loc>Capitol Hill</loc> /.


So do you think we just saw the outlines to what the midterm election battlelines might look like /?


A debate that 's likely to rage on for many many months to come /.

A debate that 's likely to rage on for <date>many many months to come</date> /.


Turning our attention now to something that has a lot of folks concerned /.


You 've been hearing an awful lot about avian or bird flu /.


The most common and deadly form has already spread in birds from South Asia to Europe /.

The most common and deadly form has already spread in birds from <loc>South Asia</loc> to <loc>Europe</loc> /.


And now there is real concern that the virus could mutate and become devastating to humans /.


In fact some health experts say it 's just a matter of time /.


Today President Bush unveiled a seven point one billion dollar plan to prepare for a possible flu pandemic /.

<date>Today</date> President <person>Bush</person> unveiled a <money>seven point one billion dollar</money> plan to prepare for a possible flu pandemic /.


Now much of that money would go toward stockpiling enough vaccine to protect twenty million healthcare workers and other first responders speeding up production of vaccines and buying the anti-viral drugs Tamoflu and Rolenzo which in some cases prevent flu infection /.

Now much of that money would go toward stockpiling enough vaccine to protect <cardinal>twenty million</cardinal> healthcare workers and other <ordinal>first</ordinal> responders speeding up production of vaccines and buying the anti-viral drugs Tamoflu and Rolenzo which in some cases prevent flu infection /.


And we now turn to senior medical correspondent Dr. Sanjay Gupto who has just gotten back from South Asia where bird flu has in the past two years killed at least sixty - two people about half of those who were struck with it /.

And we now turn to senior medical correspondent Dr. <person>Sanjay Gupto</person> who has just gotten back from <loc>South Asia</loc> where bird flu has in <date>the past two years</date> killed <cardinal>at least sixty - two</cardinal> people <cardinal>about half</cardinal> of those who were struck with it /.


Hundreds of millions of birds around the world have been destroyed to try to contain the disease /.

<cardinal>Hundreds of millions</cardinal> of birds around the world have been destroyed to try to contain the disease /.


And Dr. Gupto now just joins us from the Emory University hospital in Atlanta /.

And Dr. <person>Gupto</person> now just joins us from <org>the Emory University hospital</org> in <gpe>Atlanta</gpe> /.


Always good to see you doctor /.


So /-


Thanks /.


I know you 've had a chance to study the plan the president put forth today /.

I know you 've had a chance to study the plan the president put forth <date>today</date> /.


Does it go far enough in your estimation /?


You know what 's sort of interesting Paula /.

You know what 's sort of interesting <person>Paula</person> /.


on one hand it is remarkable that the president is devoting as much time and as much money uh all towards a disease that does n't exist yet /.


Pandemic flu does n't exist yet /.


But a lot of people are talking about it /.


and I think that 's remarkable to a lot of people eh who are citizens and a lot of people in the public health community as well /.


On the other hand to be able to outline and do the thing that were talked about today to basically completely revamp the public health system so that local officials can talk to state officials that can talk to federal officials to be able to pinpoint exactly when a cluster of bird flu happens that takes probably a lot more money and really a complete revamping of our public health systems /.

On the other hand to be able to outline and do the thing that were talked about <date>today</date> to basically completely revamp the public health system so that local officials can talk to state officials that can talk to federal officials to be able to pinpoint exactly when a cluster of bird flu happens that takes probably a lot more money and really a complete revamping of our public health systems /.


The other thing Paula really important is that they talk a lot about the fact that we 're a lot better at taking care of patients now than we were in nineteen eighteen , we have a lot of ICUs a lot of ICUs in the hospital behind me that can take care of critically ill patients /.

The other thing <person>Paula</person> really important is that they talk a lot about the fact that we 're a lot better at taking care of patients now than we were in <date>nineteen eighteen</date> , we have a lot of ICUs a lot of ICUs in the hospital behind me that can take care of critically ill patients /.


The problem though at any given time eighty to ninety percent of those ICU rooms are full so we just do n't have the surge capacity and that 's going to cost lots and lots of money to create a health system where we can take care not only of the ill now but the ill that might come in with a pandemic Paula /.

The problem though at any given time <percent>eighty to ninety percent</percent> of those ICU rooms are full so we just do n't have the surge capacity and that 's going to cost lots and lots of money to create a health system where we can take care not only of the ill now but the ill that might come in with a pandemic <person>Paula</person> /.


Uh let 's talk about the other problem of the plan where the president wants to spend a billion dollars to stockpile antiviral medicine like Tamaflu and Rolenza /.

Uh let 's talk about the other problem of the plan where the president wants to spend <money>a billion dollars</money> to stockpile antiviral medicine like Tamaflu and Rolenza /.


Do we even know if these two medications are going to be effective against a strain that has n't even presented itself /?

Do we even know if these <cardinal>two</cardinal> medications are going to be effective against a strain that has n't even presented itself /?


here 's the important thing about that /.


We do n't know for sure /.


A lot of people focusing a lot of energy on Tamaflu and Rolenza /.


These are antiviral drugs /.


they are not vaccines /.


They are antiviral drugs uh designed to basically shorten uh how bad the flu might effect you uh try to lessen its impact /.


But we only know that it might work because of laboratory studies and animal studies uh uh in particular /.


The way to really study it would be to knowingly expose people to bird flu /.


and nobody will actually ever do that study for obvious reasons /.


So it 's just theoretical really for the most part that those will work Paula /.

So it 's just theoretical really for the most part that those will work <person>Paula</person> /.


Dr. Sanjay Gupto thanks for the update /.

Dr. <person>Sanjay Gupto</person> thanks for the update /.


By the way are you catching a cold /?


A a little bit /.


You know I just got back /.


and the ninteen hour plane ride /.

and the <time>ninteen hour</time> plane ride /.


Not bird flu though /.


I can assure you that Paula /.

I can assure you that <person>Paula</person> /.


Chicken soup /.


That 's right /.


Just what the doctor ordered /.


Works all the time /.


Yeah right /.


I made a free house call for you doctor /.


Coming up on News Night Tonight , cooking a turkey is fine /.

Coming up on <work_of_art>News Night Tonight</work_of_art> , cooking a turkey is fine /.


appearing in one is n't /.


Will her Nielson do to Martha Stewart what her prison time did n't /?

Will her <org>Nielson</org> do to <person>Martha Stewart</person> what her prison time did n't /?


Rapper Fifty Cents or Fitty Cent as some of you say sells millions of records /.

Rapper <person>Fifty Cents</person> or <person>Fitty Cent</person> as some of you say sells <cardinal>millions</cardinal> of records /.


but one neighborhood does n't like the sales pitch /.

but <cardinal>one</cardinal> neighborhood does n't like the sales pitch /.


They call him Fitty Cent /.

They call him <person>Fitty Cent</person> /.


but he is worth millions /.

but he is worth <cardinal>millions</cardinal> /.


His music like the gold single PIMP may come straight from violent inner city streets /.

His music like the gold single <work_of_art>PIMP</work_of_art> may come straight from violent inner city streets /.


but suburban kids from coast to coast love the heavy base beat /.


The music sells /.


but not everyone is buying the message /.


Savela Vargas reports /.


Fitty Cent 's film Get Rich or Die Trying has n't even hit theaters yet /.

<person>Fitty Cent 's</person> film Get Rich or Die Trying has n't even hit theaters yet /.


but its marketing has already enraged people in South Central Los Angeles /.

but its marketing has already enraged people in <loc>South Central Los Angeles</loc> /.


Since two thousand there have been eight hundred homicides in this community /.

Since <date>two thousand</date> there have been <cardinal>eight hundred</cardinal> homicides in this community /.


Now who wants to uphold that standard /?


Who wants to keep perpetrating that madness /?


The movie 's billboard shows the rapper in a crucifixion - like pose brandishing a microphone in one hand and a gun in the other /.

The movie 's billboard shows the rapper in a crucifixion - like pose brandishing a microphone in <cardinal>one</cardinal> hand and a gun in the other /.


Paramount you are doing damage to our community /.

<org>Paramount</org> you are doing damage to our community /.


you are doing an injustice to our community /.


and you committing violence in our community /.


and that includes Fifty Cent too /.

and that includes <person>Fifty Cent</person> too /.


It must go /.


And go it did /.


A day after about twenty five people rallied in Hyde Park Paramount pulled one sign down and since has pulled about half a dozen others near LA area schools /.

<date>A day</date> after <cardinal>about twenty five</cardinal> people rallied in <loc>Hyde Park</loc> <org>Paramount</org> pulled <cardinal>one</cardinal> sign down and since has pulled <cardinal>about half a dozen</cardinal> others near <gpe>LA</gpe> area schools /.


I think what happens oftentimes people are so overwhelmed in communities particularly African American communities by say an image in this case Hollywood /.

I think what happens oftentimes people are so overwhelmed in communities particularly <norp>African American</norp> communities by say an image in this case <gpe>Hollywood</gpe> /.


It just seems so big /.


it just seems so overwhelming /.


it 's almost like can we really fight City Hall /?

it 's almost like can we really fight <org>City Hall</org> /?


Whatever we 're going to do no matter how much outrage and anger that we express it 's not going to change anything /.


But in this case that was shown that that 's not the case /.


A Paramount spokesman says the company is reviewing billboards in other locations /.

A <org>Paramount</org> spokesman says the company is reviewing billboards in other locations /.


Now similar complaints are coming from Brooklyn New York /.

Now similar complaints are coming from <gpe>Brooklyn</gpe> <gpe>New York</gpe> /.


Back in LA the image hits too close to home /.

Back in <gpe>LA</gpe> the image hits too close to home /.


Not too long ago we was over here /.


and a guy just pulled out a gun and was shooting right in front of my daughter /.


We did n't come back for a week cause I was scared and she was /.

We did n't come back for <date>a week</date> cause I was scared and she was /.


So I mean that right there it enraged me /.


Not a good message /.


No it 's already enough gang violence out here /.


We do n't need that /.


Cynthia Levas director of Golden Day preschool thinks the billboard touched a nerve because many children here are Fitty Cent fans /.

Cynthia Levas director of <org>Golden Day preschool</org> thinks the billboard touched a nerve because many children here are <person>Fitty Cent</person> fans /.


When it comes to ABC they be like A B /.


and you have to wait for the other letters /.


but Fitty Cent song they can sing that word for word /.

but <person>Fitty Cent</person> song they can sing that word for word /.


Rapper Fitty Cent whose real name is Curtis Jackson says it was ludicrous to single out his poster /.

Rapper <person>Fitty Cent</person> whose real name is <person>Curtis Jackson</person> says it was ludicrous to single out his poster /.


You got to look at how often we put out action films and other films that utilize weapons as a marketing tool /.


We 'll find guns or weapons on the cover of films probably more often than we 'll find people 's faces /.


He thinks the controversy will lead the film to greater box office success /.


but to the members of this community the victory is knowing that somebody listened /.


Man they heard us /.


They heard our voice /.


and I 'm glad /.


I mean I mean usually in this area nobody really cares /.


so for them to care about how we feel and how you know we raising our kids that meant a lot to all of us /.


so I 'm happy /.


Savela Vargas CNN Los Angeles /.

<person>Savela Vargas</person> <org>CNN</org> <gpe>Los Angeles</gpe> /.


And still ahead on News Night /.

And still ahead on <work_of_art>News Night</work_of_art> /.


I carry this little packet my kid gave me /.


See what my daughter /-


Daddy I love you /.


I miss you /.


be safe /.


come home ASAP /.


Danger on the ground in Iraq and under it /.

Danger on the ground in <gpe>Iraq</gpe> and under it /.


IED Improvised Explosive Devices take a terrible toll /.


And prison barely dented her popularity /.


but can Martha Stewart survive her primetime ratings /?

but can <person>Martha Stewart</person> survive her primetime ratings /?


Everyday in Iraq US soldiers work very hard to reassure local civilians train the Iraqi army and stay alive /.

Everyday in <gpe>Iraq</gpe> <gpe>US</gpe> soldiers work very hard to reassure local civilians train the <norp>Iraqi</norp> army and stay alive /.


but with the increasing power of Improvised Explosive Devices IEDs staying alive takes a lot of training and time /.


Eddie Shrahmin is imbedded with American soldiers in northern Bavil province /.

Eddie Shrahmin is imbedded with <norp>American</norp> soldiers in <loc>northern Bavil province</loc> /.


As the uh informants /-


Come here Strovell /.


listen up please /.


Like the soldiers he commands Lieutenant Colonel Ross Brown suits up daily trying to rid his area of roadside bombs /.

Like the soldiers he commands Lieutenant Colonel <person>Ross Brown</person> suits up daily trying to rid his area of roadside bombs /.


Whenever you roll out of the gate and you 're out there operating you never know if you 're going to hit one of these or not /.

Whenever you roll out of the gate and you 're out there operating you never know if you 're going to hit <cardinal>one</cardinal> of these or not /.


The first stop today is Route Tampa some of the worst stretch of highway in what is called the Triangle of Death /.

The <ordinal>first</ordinal> stop <date>today</date> is Route Tampa some of the worst stretch of highway in what is called <loc>the Triangle of Death</loc> /.


Salaam Alakum /.


where these stall owners Brown told are aware of impending attacks /.

where these stall owners <person>Brown</person> told are aware of impending attacks /.


Did you know in advance that the IED was going to go off here /?


Tell him to look me in the eye /.


tell me that again /.


It is a fine line to walk routing out information without creating new enemies battling an insurgency that kills at will , that turns civilians into accomplices /.


I think they 're scared to death /.


I think they see us as temporary and they got to live with those people forever /.


Finding friends locally seems the toughest part of Brown 's strategy /.

Finding friends locally seems the toughest part of <person>Brown</person> 's strategy /.


but his next task proves just as difficult /.


Here the Lieutenant Colonel has stopped at one of the firm bases one of the areas that Iraqis are manning their own position /.

Here the Lieutenant Colonel has stopped at one of the firm bases one of the areas that <norp>Iraqis</norp> are manning their own position /.


The commander on duty emerges out of uniform /.


and the Lieutenant colonel struggles to find progress /.


they did n't do too much work yesterday /.

they did n't do too much work <date>yesterday</date> /.


They did n't do too much work the day before /.

They did n't do too much work <date>the day before</date> /.


They have n't done too much work since they 've been here /.


Brown is unsure if this unit can survive an insurgent attack uncertainties shared by the US forces as well each soldier with his own way to cope /.

<person>Brown</person> is unsure if this unit can survive an insurgent attack uncertainties shared by the <gpe>US</gpe> forces as well each soldier with his own way to cope /.


Hey Morales you carry anything special with you on missions to help you out /?

Hey <person>Morales</person> you carry anything special with you on missions to help you out /?


Well I carry my wedding ring a bracelet my wife sent me /-


I carry a Bible Psalms ninety - one /.

I carry a <work_of_art>Bible</work_of_art> <work_of_art>Psalms ninety - one</work_of_art> /.


A picture of an angel an archangel /.


I carry this little packet my kid gave me /.


See what my daughter /-


Daddy I love you /.


I miss you /.


be safe /.


come home ASAP /?


Is n't that cool /?


All right let 's go /.


Overhead helicopters are responding to an IED attack that moments ago killed Colonel William Wood the highest ranking US officer to die in combat in Iraq a personal friend of Brown 's an added personal reason why tomorrow he 'll be suiting up again /.

Overhead helicopters are responding to an IED attack that <time>moments ago</time> killed Colonel <person>William Wood</person> the highest ranking <gpe>US</gpe> officer to die in combat in <gpe>Iraq</gpe> a personal friend of <person>Brown</person> 's an added personal reason why <date>tomorrow</date> he 'll be suiting up again /.


Eddie Shrahmin CNN northern Bavil Province /.

Eddie Shrahmin <org>CNN</org> <loc>northern Bavil Province</loc> /.


And we turn our attention now to London where a memorial service was held today for the fifty - two victims of the bomb attacks in the city 's public transport systems back in July /.

And we turn our attention now to <gpe>London</gpe> where a memorial service was held <date>today</date> for the <cardinal>fifty - two</cardinal> victims of the bomb attacks in the city 's public transport systems back in <date>July</date> /.


Queen Elizabeth and Prime Minister Tony Blair attended as did relatives to those who died and emergency workers who responded to the terrorist attacks /.

<person>Queen Elizabeth</person> and Prime Minister <person>Tony Blair</person> attended as did relatives to those who died and emergency workers who responded to the terrorist attacks /.


Andrew Carey has the story of three firefighters who were first on the scene at one of the bombings /.

<person>Andrew Carey</person> has the story of <cardinal>three</cardinal> firefighters who were <ordinal>first</ordinal> on the scene at <cardinal>one</cardinal> of the bombings /.


A major incident in central London /-

A major incident in central <gpe>London</gpe> /-


Four explosions ripping through the subway s- /-

<cardinal>Four</cardinal> explosions ripping through the subway s- /-


Chaos on services with some passengers trapped underground /.


It began as any other day you know just uh doing eh normal checks /.


At nine o'clock we started our shift /.

At <time>nine o'clock</time> we started our shift /.


And so the bells went /.


It was about a minute past nine when we got the shout for uh smoke issuing in Allgate tube station /.

It was <time>about a minute past nine</time> when we got the shout for uh smoke issuing in <fac>Allgate tube station</fac> /.


The explosion at Allgate was the first of the four bombs to go off on July the seventh at eight fifty in the morning /.

The explosion at <fac>Allgate</fac> was the <ordinal>first</ordinal> of the <cardinal>four</cardinal> bombs to go off on <date>July the seventh</date> at <time>eight fifty in the morning</time> /.


But Paul Kelly Steve Sodbury and Mel Anderson of Shadwell Firestation 's blue watch had no idea what had happened as they got into the fire engine to answer the call /.

But <person>Paul Kelly</person> <person>Steve Sodbury</person> and <person>Mel Anderson</person> of Shadwell Firestation 's blue watch had no idea what had happened as they got into the fire engine to answer the call /.


On the arrival at Allgate we saw dozens of casualties outside the front sitting down /.

On the arrival at <fac>Allgate</fac> we saw dozens of casualties outside the front sitting down /.


and it looked so serious that for one second I thought this must be like a training exercise /.

and it looked so serious that for <time>one second</time> I thought this must be like a training exercise /.


These people had flesh injuries /.


but they also had psychological injuries /.


They just needed reassurance /.


They just needed reassurance because a lot of them were scared /.


It always happens to someone else on the television a terrorist incident /.


As medical teams arrived at the scene Steve Paul and two other firefighters went into the station /.

As medical teams arrived at the scene <person>Steve</person> <person>Paul</person> and <cardinal>two</cardinal> other firefighters went into the station /.


This scene of walking down the platform and down the tracks with lines of injured people walking past you out the other way is /-


I 'll remember it forever I think /.


By the time they reached the second carriage they knew they were dealing with a bomb explosion /.

By the time they reached the <ordinal>second</ordinal> carriage they knew they were dealing with a bomb explosion /.


Carnage /.


A man sitting down next door he had half his leg /.


um a person lying down /.


there was like a half a torso in front of the carriage as you go in /.

there was like a <cardinal>half</cardinal> a torso in front of the carriage as you go in /.


It sounds very harsh to say now /.


but when you 're down there and you 're dealing with it it kind of just happens /.


You go into autopilot /.


and you look /.


and you think I ca n't help that person /.


let 's move on to the next one /.


Eight people including the bomber died at Allgate /.

<cardinal>Eight</cardinal> people including the bomber died at <fac>Allgate</fac> /.


one hundred and twenty were injured /.

<cardinal>one hundred and twenty</cardinal> were injured /.


At the end of the day back home with their loved ones a time for the firefighters to reflect and some mixed emotions /.

At <time>the end of the day</time> back home with their loved ones a time for the firefighters to reflect and some mixed emotions /.


To them it was their happiness to see me walking through the door /.


but I knew that somewhere someone 's daughter was n't coming home , their father was n't coming home /.


Watching it on the news is completely different to looking in the eyes of a wounded person /.


As a fire brigade you 're there to rescue them /.


so it 'll always be a sense of regret as we did as much as we could but there was still a human cost and there 's nothing that we 'll ever be able to do about it /.


Andrew Carey CNN London /.

<person>Andrew Carey</person> <org>CNN</org> <gpe>London</gpe> /.


A producer from our London Bureau /.

A producer from our <gpe>London</gpe> Bureau /.


Still to come the ups and downs of Martha Stewart and the British are coming ! The British are coming !

Still to come the ups and downs of <person>Martha Stewart</person> and the <norp>British</norp> are coming ! The <norp>British</norp> are coming !


No wait /.


are n't they already here /?


But does anyone really care /?


And now we 're going to take a look at the trials and tribulations of Martha Stewart /.

And now we 're going to take a look at the trials and tribulations of <person>Martha Stewart</person> /.


You might have thought serving time in prison was tough /.


As it turns out , being on the outside might be even tougher /.


It seems like just yesterday Martha Stewart was sprung from prison and poised for her comeback /.

It seems like <date>just yesterday</date> <person>Martha Stewart</person> was sprung from prison and poised for her comeback /.


This is a country where we believe in second acts , we believe in redemption , we believe in confessional stories , we believe in the comeback , we 've /-

This is a country where we believe in <ordinal>second</ordinal> acts , we believe in redemption , we believe in confessional stories , we believe in the comeback , we 've /-


Five months behind bars had n't dimmed Martha 's image /.

<date>Five months</date> behind bars had n't dimmed <person>Martha</person> 's image /.


If anything it was soaring /.


Along with her company stock it doubled during that time /.

Along with her company stock it doubled during <date>that time</date> /.


Martha once again took the helm of her company and her magazine /.

<person>Martha</person> once again took the helm of her company and her magazine /.


She also landed a starring role in the spinoff of one of TV 's hottest reality shows The Apprentice /.

She also landed a starring role in the spinoff of one of TV 's hottest reality shows <work_of_art>The Apprentice</work_of_art> /.


Martha the woman everyone loves to hate was loved /.

<person>Martha</person> the woman everyone loves to hate was loved /.


It 's really wonderful to be back /.


I 've missed you as you can imagine /.


But what a difference a TV show makes especialy when that show is a flop /.


I 'm looking for the apprentice /.


The Apprentice Martha Stewart debuted in September /.

<work_of_art>The Apprentice Martha Stewart</work_of_art> debuted in <date>September</date> /.


Her ratings tanked /.


and her stock followed suit plunging about forty - seven percent since her release from prison in March /.

and her stock followed suit plunging <percent>about forty - seven percent</percent> since her release from prison in <date>March</date> /.


Once again Martha Stewart is persona non grata /.

Once again <person>Martha Stewart</person> is persona non grata /.


Even her friend and fellow Apprentice star Donald Trump made it clear that her show was not a good thing /.

Even her friend and fellow <work_of_art>Apprentice</work_of_art> star <person>Donald Trump</person> made it clear that her show was not a good thing /.


He had this to say in a recent radio interview /.


I think there was confusion between Martha 's Apprentice and mine /.

I think there was confusion between <person>Martha</person> 's <work_of_art>Apprentice</work_of_art> and mine /.


and mine continues to do well /.


and the other has struggled very severely /.


I think it probably hurt mine /.


and I sort of predicted that it would /.


You 're fired /.


Ouch smackdown from the Donald /.

Ouch smackdown from <person>the Donald</person> /.


Donald /?


Martha Stewart punched back in a recent Fortune magazine interview saying she was actually told that she would be firing the Donald /.

<person>Martha Stewart</person> punched back in a recent <org>Fortune magazine</org> interview saying she was actually told that she would be firing <person>the Donald</person> /.


Is the old Martha back again /?

Is the old <person>Martha</person> back again /?


She has a track record of being associated unfortunately with the B word and not a little B but a capital B /.


Can the comeback queen come back again /?


I think she can be saved /.


Anybody can be saved /.


Any organization can be saved /.


but it takes a lot of hard work /.


Is n't that one of the reasons for our infatuation with Martha /?

Is n't that <cardinal>one</cardinal> of the reasons for our infatuation with <person>Martha</person> /?


She 's the perennial story of celebrity redemption /.


She said this to Fortune magazine I have learned that I really can not be destroyed /.

She said this to <org>Fortune magazine</org> I have learned that I really can not be destroyed /.


Apparently Martha Stewart is betting on her own comeback as well /.

Apparently <person>Martha Stewart</person> is betting on her own comeback as well /.


We 'll see /.


Still to come on News Night the prince and his brand new wife making their first trip to the US since their marriage /.

Still to come on <work_of_art>News Night</work_of_art> the prince and his brand new wife making their <ordinal>first</ordinal> trip to the <gpe>US</gpe> since their marriage /.


This time it 's not exactly a fairy tale /.


This week Americans are getting a rare chance to treat royalty well like royalty /.

<date>This week</date> <norp>Americans</norp> are getting a rare chance to treat royalty well like royalty /.


Prince Charles and his new wife Camilla have jumped across the pond and are touring the United States making their first stop today in New York /.

<person>Prince Charles</person> and his new wife <person>Camilla</person> have jumped across the pond and are touring <gpe>the United States</gpe> making their <ordinal>first</ordinal> stop <date>today</date> in <gpe>New York</gpe> /.


It 's Charles ' first opportunity to showcase his new wife /.

It 's <person>Charles</person> ' <ordinal>first</ordinal> opportunity to showcase his new wife /.


but few Americans seem to care /.

but few <norp>Americans</norp> seem to care /.


Here 's Jeanie Mowth /.

Here 's <person>Jeanie Mowth</person> /.


What a difference two decades make /.

What a difference <date>two decades</date> make /.


Charles and Diana visited a JC Penney 's on the prince 's last official US tour /.

<person>Charles</person> and <person>Diana</person> visited <fac>a JC Penney 's</fac> on the prince 's <ordinal>last</ordinal> official <gpe>US</gpe> tour /.


Twenty years later here 's the prince with his new wife attending a party at the Museum of Modern Art along with Yoko Ono Diane Sawyer Henry Kissinger Donald Trump Joan Collins and even Sting /.

<date>Twenty years later</date> here 's the prince with his new wife attending a party at <org>the Museum of Modern Art</org> along with <person>Yoko Ono</person> <person>Diane Sawyer</person> <person>Henry Kissinger</person> <person>Donald Trump</person> <person>Joan Collins</person> and even <person>Sting</person> /.


But it still stings some Diana fans to see those old shots of glamorous Princess Di dancing with John Travolta at the White House /.

But it still stings some <person>Diana</person> fans to see those old shots of glamorous <person>Princess Di</person> dancing with <person>John Travolta</person> at <fac>the White House</fac> /.


But when it comes to Camilla gossip columnists can get pretty catty /.

But when it comes to <person>Camilla</person> gossip columnists can get pretty catty /.


We 're all welcoming the prince and the duchess or mistress of whatever she is this week /.

We 're all welcoming the prince and the duchess or mistress of whatever she is <date>this week</date> /.


A lone protestor parked herself outside the UN where Charles would later visit /.

A lone protestor parked herself outside <fac>the UN</fac> where <person>Charles</person> would later visit /.


Camilla you are no princess said her sign with a horse on it /.

<person>Camilla</person> you are no princess said her sign with a horse on it /.


The horse is basically Camilla /.

The horse is basically <person>Camilla</person> /.


We all know that she 's a horse /.


She does n't belong here /.


and she 'll never be able to take Diana 's place ever /.

and she 'll never be able to take <person>Diana</person> 's place ever /.


But at least the horse is pretty /.


The royals flew in amid headlines declaring their visit a royal bore /.


Only ninteen per cent of Americans polled said they were interested in the visit /.

<percent>Only ninteen per cent</percent> of <norp>Americans</norp> polled said they were interested in the visit /.


eighty - one per cent said they were not /.

<percent>eighty - one per cent</percent> said they were not /.


Prince Charles and Camilla are in town /.

<person>Prince Charles</person> and <person>Camilla</person> are in town /.


Do you care /?


Not a wit /.


Royal watching is not for you /?


I have n't watched it yet /.


I loved Princess Diana /.

I loved <person>Princess Diana</person> /.


I do n't care for this new chick in town /.


Sorry /.


The new chick and her prince started the day with a visit to Ground Zero /.

The new chick and her prince started <date>the day</date> with a visit to <loc>Ground Zero</loc> /.


They then unveiled a memorial to British victims of Nine Eleven /.

They then unveiled a memorial to <norp>British</norp> victims of <event>Nine Eleven</event> /.


Everywhere they went there were curtsies and /-


Um , this is the first time I 've seen you , and I 've always wanted to ask you a question .

Um , this is the <ordinal>first</ordinal> time I 've seen you , and I 've always wanted to ask you a question .


Ah .


Usually directors , otherwise , they have beards and very long hair , or otherwise they shave their heads .


Oh .


Oh ! I had n't thought about that .


Actually a shaved head is really hard to manage , is n't it ?


Do you have to shave it every day ?


Right , yes .


Um , when I 've slept so much I ca n't wake up , I just shave my head and I 'm awake .


And do you need to polish it somehow ?


Then do you rub a little oil of some kind on it ?


Oh , after I shave it I rub on a little oil .


Is it cold in the winter ?


Pretty cold .


Do you wear a hat ?


In the winter ?


It forces me to wear a hat .


That 's a question I 've always wanted to ask .


Um , I 'm sure that there are many people when they introduce you , aside from saying Director Ye Daying who has shot such and such , they ca n't avoid the cliche , they always have to say " I 'd like to introduce Marshall Ye Ting 's grandson . "

Um , I 'm sure that there are many people when they introduce you , aside from saying Director <person>Ye Daying</person> who has shot such and such , they ca n't avoid the cliche , they always have to say " I 'd like to introduce Marshall <person>Ye Ting</person> 's grandson . "


Your father , Ye Zhengming , was Marshall Ye Ting 's second child .

Your father , <person>Ye Zhengming</person> , was Marshall <person>Ye Ting</person> 's <ordinal>second</ordinal> child .


Right .


Oh !


But today we 're telling Ye Daying 's story .

But <date>today</date> we 're telling <person>Ye Daying 's</person> story .


Let 's start with when you were young .


When you were young you were very naughty .


Ye Daying was born in Changchun in 1958 .

<person>Ye Daying</person> was born in <gpe>Changchun</gpe> in <date>1958</date> .


Although by that time his grandfather Ye Ting had been dead for 12 years , the Ye family maintained its status as a highly esteemed Communist household .

Although by that time his grandfather <person>Ye Ting</person> had been dead for <date>12 years</date> , the <person>Ye</person> family maintained its status as a highly esteemed <norp>Communist</norp> household .


The next year the entire family transferred to Beijing , and Ye Daying spent his childhood there .

<date>The next year</date> the entire family transferred to <gpe>Beijing</gpe> , and <person>Ye Daying</person> spent his childhood there .


He and his little friends went fishing , raised dogs , hunted sparrows , chased ducks , and many years later these supremely happy memories are all preserved in his movies and plays .

He and his little friends went fishing , raised dogs , hunted sparrows , chased ducks , and <date>many years</date> later these supremely happy memories are all preserved in his movies and plays .


One , two , three , four .

<cardinal>One</cardinal> , <cardinal>two</cardinal> , <cardinal>three</cardinal> , <cardinal>four</cardinal> .


Ducks were the most precious asset in our village .


The village mayor gave them all to me .


The mayor said to me , there are eighty - six in all ;

The mayor said to me , there are <cardinal>eighty - six</cardinal> in all ;


he had me check to see that there were none missing .


But I never did count them all carefully .


77 , 78 , 79 , 80 , 81 , 82 , 83 , 84 , 85 , 86

<cardinal>77</cardinal> , <cardinal>78</cardinal> , <cardinal>79</cardinal> , <cardinal>80</cardinal> , <cardinal>81</cardinal> , <cardinal>82</cardinal> , <cardinal>83</cardinal> , <cardinal>84</cardinal> , <cardinal>85</cardinal> , <cardinal>86</cardinal>


Did you see ?


Are there 86 of them ?

Are there <cardinal>86</cardinal> of them ?


Yes .


Ye Daying 's mother , An Qi , was an educated woman who worked at the Changchun Film Studio .

<person>Ye Daying 's</person> mother , <person>An Qi</person> , was an educated woman who worked at <org>the Changchun Film Studio</org> .


And his father , Ye Zhengming , was an outstanding son of the revolution .

And his father , <person>Ye Zhengming</person> , was an outstanding son of the revolution .


Because after the Wannan Incident Ye Zhengming and his father Ye Ting were imprisoned for two years in a Kuomnintang prison .

Because after <event>the Wannan Incident</event> <person>Ye Zhengming</person> and his father <person>Ye Ting</person> were imprisoned for <date>two years</date> in a <org>Kuomnintang</org> prison .


But then , and for the same reasons , just after the Cultural Revolution started , Ye Zhengming was treated as a major capitalist roader .

But then , and for the same reasons , just after <event>the Cultural Revolution</event> started , <person>Ye Zhengming</person> was treated as a major capitalist roader .


That year Ye Daying was just eight years old .

That year <person>Ye Daying</person> was just <date>eight years</date> old .


His family 's sudden misfortune left the young Ye Daying with very disturbing memories .

His family 's sudden misfortune left the young <person>Ye Daying</person> with very disturbing memories .


He changed from a very well - behaved child into a naughty child .


From that time on he often did things that went beyond the norm , sometimes to protect himself and sometimes to take care of his family .


Ye Daying just corrected us ; he said that Ye Ting should not be called Marshal Ye Ting but rather General Ye Ting .

<person>Ye Daying</person> just corrected us ; he said that <person>Ye Ting</person> should not be called Marshal <person>Ye Ting</person> but rather General <person>Ye Ting</person> .


Right , right , right , General Ye Ting .

Right , right , right , General <person>Ye Ting</person> .


Why , is there a big difference between marshal and general ?


Um , he died in '46 .


That marshal , afterward , after Liberation , um , it was conferred on him , so only then --

That marshal , afterward , after <event>Liberation</event> , um , it was conferred on him , so only then --


OK , we 'll call him General Ye Ting .

OK , we 'll call him General <person>Ye Ting</person> .


Mm .


Because ,


Very naughty ?


To what extent were you naughty then ?


In fact I was a very well - behaved child .


But I was , forced into it , , if you were n't naughty there was no way to survive .


What do you mean forced into it ?


During the Cultural Revolution , , um , my family was considered capitalist roaders .

During <event>the Cultural Revolution</event> , , um , my family was considered capitalist roaders .


So the kids then did n't want to play with you , or they would tease you , that sort of thing .


So you always had to be fighting with people , such things ,


Why was that ?


Was it because people for example would say that your father was such and such , or your family was such and such .


Right .


So it was because of that sort of thing ?


Right , the majority of it was like that .


Because you had to face them alone , OK , a dozen people who wanted to fight you .

Because you had to face them alone , OK , a <cardinal>dozen</cardinal> people who wanted to fight you .


You had to show your stuff right off the bat , and you had to be tough .


So that was , the only way you could overcome them and get the upper hand .


Mm .


Were you tough ?


Very tough .


Tough enough to --


Because , there was no way , if you were n't tough that was it , , how could you manage .


You were the son of capitalist roaders , , you thought it was natural to be the object of bullying , and it 's perfectly normal .


, I remember one time , we were digging out an air - raid shelter , that --


Those , good kids , they went there and threw stones .


I did n't dare defend myself , so I just had to endure it for quite a while .


Finally a very big rock , a lump of earth , hit me on the head , And I got angry , so angry that I rushed out with a shovel and hit them with the shovel .


Where did the shovel come from ?


From digging the air - raid shelter , it was there , right .


So you picked up the shovel and rushed them .


Did you crack somebody 's head open ?


Mm , anyhow , yes , I cracked their head open , it was very tragic .


All of a sudden nobody was making a sound .


Very --


Once I fought back , for several years after nobody dared mess with me .

Once I fought back , for <date>several years</date> after nobody dared mess with me .


How many of them did you take out ?


I hit one of them and that was enough .


Nopbody went to get the schoolmaster or somebody 's father ?


They did , and there was a huge fuss .


Mm .


Because when I was little , having a big fight like that .


Anyhow , more or less , , on average , every two years I changed school , and that 's how it had to be .

Anyhow , more or less , , on average , every <cardinal>two</cardinal> years I changed school , and that 's how it had to be .


I remember one time -- Mm , also , when I was in fifth or sixth grade , someone yelled out , Down with Ye Zhengming , he was yelling at me , and I had to fight them .

I remember one time -- Mm , also , when I was in <ordinal>fifth</ordinal> or <ordinal>sixth</ordinal> grade , someone yelled out , Down with <person>Ye Zhengming</person> , he was yelling at me , and I had to fight them .


After the fight I went home , and my father was standing far away .


, the factory , , on the street , somebody had written in huge letters Down with Ye Zhengming , , the slogan .

, the factory , , on the street , somebody had written in huge letters Down with <person>Ye Zhengming</person> , , the slogan .


I got accustomed to it while passing by at that time , and now when I think about it , it seems very much like a stage play .


Back then I felt , looking at him standing so far away --


I walked over to him , and he said , um , you really do n't understand anything .


At the time I felt like I had a grievance .


And I felt , I was fighting for you , the people were cursing you , and I was fighting them .


In fact that 's the way kids think .


You think , you bastard .


What you say does n't count .


you come after me and I 'll take you down .


You come down , and I 'll take you down .


If you have balls , you come on down .


Come on down .


Come down .


Come down , come on , fight , fight , fight .


I say you take a whack .


Whack .


I 'm telling you , if you kill somebody you 'll pay with your life , do you understand ?


, You 've already handed him over .


I sent someone .


OK , OK , I sent someone , so you come on and take a shot at me .


Come on , take a whack at me .


Take a whack at me .


Your dad knows who broke the window .


Take a whack .


Are n't you willing to be friends with us ?


Yes , I am .


He says he 's willing .


Did you hear ?


Ok , that 's all right , let 's go play .


This is a movie directed by Ye , called There 's a Place Called Wangjiazhan .

This is a movie directed by <person>Ye</person> , called <work_of_art>There 's a Place Called Wangjiazhan</work_of_art> .


Wangjiazhuang , right .


This is obviously him as a boy , uh , a memory of his childhood life .


Right .


Which child is you .


Is this child you , or is that child you ?


Actually we should be accurate ; this child 's experiences ,


So this child ,


Um , right , right , right , because once , I


My father was denounced , and then the rebels took us , took that child to see .


Mm .


They denounced my father , so I was very indignant ,


They let a lot of people expose my father ,


Then the day after I took a kitchen knife and ran over to their home , that research institute , the doorway and vowed that I 'd hack the guy up .

Then <date>the day</date> after I took a kitchen knife and ran over to their home , that research institute , the doorway and vowed that I 'd hack the guy up .


A kitchen knife ; a knife from your kitchen at home .


Oh , right , right , a knife from my kitchen at home .


Then I was standing there , lots of people surrounding me , and in fact you ca n't just hack people up .


But I had already said it .


What did you say ?


said I have to hack him , have to hack , so it was more or less like this child .


But , those adults standing around reasoned with me , said look , you do n't understand this .


If you do this , you 'll stir up more trouble , and then wo n't your dad be even worse off ?


In fact when they said that , my mind had already eased .


I could not lose the face this way , , So then I ran over and took a whack at the door , to get an excuse for myself .


Was it all ruined ? The door --


I slashed it twice .


Um , was n't there any consequence ?


Mm , there was no consequence , , I just let the adults reason with me .


Mm , and this is a memory from your childhood years .


It , had a great influence on me .


Including that village , that environment , it 's all very familiar to you .


More or less , very close to me , this is a novel of .


Mm .


, the reason I like it is because , um , it brings up lots of that kind of childhood memories .


Mm , you spent a large part of your childhood in Beijing .

Mm , you spent a large part of your childhood in <gpe>Beijing</gpe> .


What year was it that you moved to Shanghai ?

What year was it that you moved to <gpe>Shanghai</gpe> ?


How old were you at that time ?


, In '69 I was 11 years old .

, In <date>'69</date> I was <date>11 years</date> old .


Mm , well .


In '69 at the age of 11 you went from Beijing to Shanghai .

In <date>'69</date> at the age of <date>11</date> you went from <gpe>Beijing</gpe> to <gpe>Shanghai</gpe> .


Mm , your living environment changed , but perhaps that mischievousness had n't completely passed .


Mm , as he puts it , looking at it now , some of the memories can be very painful , but it was pretty happy days .


I went there every day and then they suspended classes , , so I could n't go to school , could n't go to class .


So , later I remember there was -- Mm . A guy in the engineering team , and he brought Quotations from Chairman Mao and said to me , He said , now take this , now take these Quotations from Chairman Mao and teach yourselves , and in the future you 'll take up arms and teach yourselves .

So , later I remember there was -- Mm . A guy in the engineering team , and he brought <work_of_art>Quotations from Chairman Mao</work_of_art> and said to me , He said , now take this , now take these <work_of_art>Quotations from Chairman Mao</work_of_art> and teach yourselves , and in the future you 'll take up arms and teach yourselves .


A lot of people were very happy , very excited , because they were bringing back the college entrance exams , why were you feeling so depressed ?


Right , but the problem --


Because , I had never studied well ,


In 1966 the Great Cultural Revolution came , and at that time Ye Daying 's family moved from Beijing to Shanghai to live .

In <date>1966</date> <event>the Great Cultural Revolution</event> came , and at that time <person>Ye Daying 's</person> family moved from <gpe>Beijing</gpe> to <gpe>Shanghai</gpe> to live .


His father Ye Zhengming was being criticized as a capitalist roader at the research institute , and the political situation was getting worse by the day .

His father <person>Ye Zhengming</person> was being criticized as a capitalist roader at the research institute , and the political situation was getting worse by the day .


And the change of regions did nothing to change the violent nature of Ye Daying 's life .

And the change of regions did nothing to change the violent nature of <person>Ye Daying 's</person> life .


He was still struggling at the edge of preserving justice .


When you got to Shanghai the environment changed ; did n't your whole person change ?

When you got to <gpe>Shanghai</gpe> the environment changed ; did n't your whole person change ?


After I got to Shanghai , , settling into , , that ,

After I got to <gpe>Shanghai</gpe> , , settling into , , that ,


All that time , from '69 to '76 , I graduated from senior middle school , it all took place there .

All that time , from <date>'69</date> to <date>'76</date> , I graduated from senior middle school , it all took place there .


Mm .


At that time in school , there were some special children , there was a special class , the better students , were you in that class ?


Right , right , , see , like study classes to educate good kids .


What kind of people were in your class ?


Um .


Anyhow , boys and girls who did not perform well , you could say they were little hooligans , they were all mixed in together in that class , and there were also some who had problems at home .


All of them , and every day I went there , and the classes were suspended , , so they did n't let me go to school , did n't let me go to class .


So , afterward , I remember there was Mm . A guy in the engineering team , and he brought Quotations from Chairman Mao and said to me , He said , now take this , now take these Quotations from Chairman Mao and teach yourselves , and in the future you 'll take up arms and teach yourselves .

So , afterward , I remember there was Mm . A guy in the engineering team , and he brought <work_of_art>Quotations from Chairman Mao</work_of_art> and said to me , He said , now take this , now take these <work_of_art>Quotations from Chairman Mao</work_of_art> and teach yourselves , and in the future you 'll take up arms and teach yourselves .


Lots of fun .


So I was with this group of kids all together , and everybody copied everybody else and it was even harder to study .


In fact it was n't that we did n't study , I think it was ,


This class really helped me a lot , , sometimes in my life I think about this ,


That period was both a happy and a fun time .


Because I was a good egg .


In this I go against the grain .


Um , the thing is , , they 're all the same .


If you 're bad , you do what you want , and so , you 're honest and so it 's easy to be free .


Plus when you yourself have already decided that you 're a bad kid , then , you achieve a kind of liberation , and you 're completely liberated and free .


I think that --


Um , of course today we say , at that time , um , in that class of ours , they were n't all necessarily bad kids .

Um , of course <date>today</date> we say , at that time , um , in that class of ours , they were n't all necessarily bad kids .


Mm .


They just were n't like normal kids .


, it was like a brotherhood .


Ah , and we did some things that were out of bounds .


Mm , we helped each other .


Very sincere , very sincere and good .


When he was in that class , Ye Daying received patient teaching every day .

When he was in that class , <person>Ye Daying</person> received patient teaching every day .


At that time he encountered the first love of his life that still remains fresh in his memory .

At that time he encountered the <ordinal>first</ordinal> love of his life that still remains fresh in his memory .


This girl became the only light in Ye Daying 's dark life for several years .

This girl became the only light in <person>Ye Daying 's</person> dark life for <date>several years</date> .


In those days if a middle school student liked a fellow - student , how did he go about expressing that ?


Um .


When I was a school kid , for example , Um , that girl , who ran the kitchen and was one of the better students in our class , I liked her .


I always felt , um , she can , give you more on your plate , put more things on your plate for you to eat .


And then the most obvious way was um , to go see a movie together .


It was ,


So already you could -- Go see a movie ; I thought ,


That was it , that was it .


You just want to go see the movie , you do n't worry about holding hands or not , um , and that was great , --


So you went to the movies with this girl ?


Yes .


Do you still remember what movies you saw ?


The Flower Girl .

<work_of_art>The Flower Girl .</work_of_art>


I still remember that now .


Mm .


She cried as hard as she could .


So seeing The Flower Girl was the equivalent of seeing Titanic now .

So seeing <work_of_art>The Flower Girl</work_of_art> was the equivalent of seeing <work_of_art>Titanic</work_of_art> now .


Oh , yes , yes , a bit , a bit , yes , all was ready , no cry .


Yes , crying her eyes out , a big film like that .


At the time I thought I would n't cry .


But the people all around were crying , and I thought if I did n't cry it would look bad .


So then you cried .


So then I thought , I should let my emotions go .


Um , how was the girl , was she very pretty ?


, now I remember that she was very pretty , mm .


She was a very good student .


Ha ha , this --


How was it she liked you ?


At that time we did n't talk about it , if two people gave each other the eye and felt it was right , then ,

At that time we did n't talk about it , if <cardinal>two</cardinal> people gave each other the eye and felt it was right , then ,


Gave each other the eye , while you were in the class you gave each other the eye .


, so , when we were in class , for example you ,


I remember how it happened , yes .


Um . When we went to class , in the classroom , it was all very chaotic .


Mm .


So then , we 'd each pick up a piece of chalk and toss the chalk back and forth . And throw spitballs .


I threw it at someone else but missed , and it hit her .


The result was that she turned her head to look .


And she looked at you angrily .


I thought , uh-oh , the expression in her eyes was like she would forgive you , that kind of feeling .


I thought wow , it 's so wonderful , that kind of feeling .


That 's how it was , I should say .


It was like that ?


Many years later , afterward , we graduated from senior middle school , and I was still going to see her .

<date>Many years</date> later , afterward , we graduated from senior middle school , and I was still going to see her .


The --


, so we all took the exams for college , and things changed , right .


You graduated from middle school in '73 .

You graduated from middle school in <date>'73</date> .


'74 .


Graduated from midle school in '74 .

Graduated from midle school in <date>'74</date> .


Mm , that female schoolmate went to the Shanghai suburbs to live and work .

Mm , that female schoolmate went to the <gpe>Shanghai</gpe> suburbs to live and work .


Right , right , yes .


Ye Daying went to work in a factory ; at that time your monthly wages were , forty - some yuan ?

<person>Ye Daying</person> went to work in a factory ; at that time your monthly wages were , <money>forty - some yuan</money> ?


Mm , when I started it was a technical school .


Then at first it was 13 yuan , the first year 13 yuan ; the second year it was 15 yuan , and the third year it was 41 yuan .

Then at <ordinal>first</ordinal> it was <money>13 yuan</money> , <date>the first year</date> <money>13 yuan</money> ; <date>the second year</date> it was <money>15 yuan</money> , and <date>the third year</date> it was <money>41 yuan</money> .


Mm .


41 yuan , at the time , for him , it was , an astronomical sum , um , a lot of money .

<money>41 yuan</money> , at the time , for him , it was , an astronomical sum , um , a lot of money .


It was a lot of money .


In 1976 , there were two happy events in the Ye family .

In <date>1976</date> , there were <cardinal>two</cardinal> happy events in the <person>Ye</person> family .


The first was that his father , Ye Zhengming , was released and reunited with his family that he had been separated from for three years .

The <ordinal>first</ordinal> was that his father , <person>Ye Zhengming</person> , was released and reunited with his family that he had been separated from for <date>three years</date> .


The second event was that Ye Daying had his 18th birthday and became an adult .

The <ordinal>second</ordinal> event was that <person>Ye Daying</person> had his <ordinal>18th</ordinal> birthday and became an adult .


With the turn for the better in his father 's political circumstances , Ye Daying left behind his violent life and changed suddenly , becoming more inward - looking .

With the turn for the better in his father 's political circumstances , <person>Ye Daying</person> left behind his violent life and changed suddenly , becoming more inward - looking .


In 1978 the big news was that the college entrance exams would be reinstated nationwide , and people of Ye Daying 's age were thrilled .

In <date>1978</date> the big news was that the college entrance exams would be reinstated nationwide , and people of <person>Ye Daying 's</person> age were thrilled .


However , at this time Ye Daying , facing this opportunity that would change his fortune , was at a loss as to what to do .

However , at this time <person>Ye Daying</person> , facing this opportunity that would change his fortune , was at a loss as to what to do .


You thought those days were pretty good , did you not think about getting into the university ?


Oh my , in fact , '78 , for me , was an especially depressing time .

Oh my , in fact , <date>'78</date> , for me , was an especially depressing time .


Up to then , um , I had never thought about the future .


I thought everybody was the same , your fate settled things for you , um , you either go to a place live and work , or you became a -LRB- factory -RRB- worker .


In society , being a worker was already not so bad a thing , um , a way to move ahead .


Um , in '78 suddenly they reinstated the college entrance exams .

Um , in <date>'78</date> suddenly they reinstated the college entrance exams .


At that time , in '78 , I was 20 .

At that time , in <date>'78</date> , I was <date>20</date> .


A lot of people were happy , very excited , because they reinstated the college entrance exams ; why were you feeling depressed ?


Right , but the problem was , , Because , I had never done well in school .


So right off I felt that I was finished , --


Those kids who were younger than us who had done well in school , , compared to me , they had a future , um , they could stand out .


Mm .


So I was hopeless , right off I was feeling down .


Very clearly a --


If you wanted to take the exams , what kind of score did you think you 'd get .


I did n't take the exams , I did n't have the nerve , I did n't try , so --


, the extraordinary thing was , at that time my mom was attending the film institute , she was an instructor there .


Mm , I had n't thought , , that I would work in the movie .


, um , she wanted to send the recruitment announcement to a friend 's house .


So then I --


One day she sent me to deliver it , and so I picked it up and read it , and once I read it , oh ! The directing department of the film institute , inside , no language exams , no math or physics or chemistry exams , and I thought wow ! This is just the ticket .


Let 's run off to try and see .


I thought you 've loved movies ever since you were little , and then every day sitting in the movie theater you thought , I want to be a director .


No , I did n't , no .


It was just because there was no English exam , no exams in math or physics or chemistry .

It was just because there was no <language>English</language> exam , no exams in math or physics or chemistry .


Right , it was very simple .


One more thing , because in '78 , the Beijing Film Institute was recruiting students in Shanghai --

One more thing , because in <date>'78</date> , <org>the Beijing Film Institute</org> was recruiting students in <gpe>Shanghai</gpe> --


Right .


So , Ye Daying went to take the exams for the film institute , but did n't pass the exams .

So , <person>Ye Daying</person> went to take the exams for the film institute , but did n't pass the exams .


His mother , An Qi , had never thought that Ye Daying would sign up to take the exam for her work unit , the Beijing Film Institute .

His mother , <person>An Qi</person> , had never thought that <person>Ye Daying</person> would sign up to take the exam for her work unit , <org>the Beijing Film Institute</org> .


But Ye Daying in fact failed when he took the reinstated exam .

But <person>Ye Daying</person> in fact failed when he took the reinstated exam .


Although it was the first time he had taken the exam , it left Ye Daying even more convinced that movies were something he could do .

Although it was the <ordinal>first</ordinal> time he had taken the exam , it left <person>Ye Daying</person> even more convinced that movies were something he could do .


The next year , 21 - year - old Ye Daying passed the entrance exam for the actors training class at the Xi'an Film Studio .

<date>The next year</date> , <date>21 - year</date> - old <person>Ye Daying</person> passed the entrance exam for the actors training class at <org>the Xi'an Film Studio</org> .


Being an actor was not his goal ; he hoped rather to get into the directing profession .


At that time you especially admired directors , right ?


Mm , because after I got to the Xi'an Film Studio , um , I discovered I had the shakes when I got on stage .

Mm , because after I got to <org>the Xi'an Film Studio</org> , um , I discovered I had the shakes when I got on stage .


Mm .


Mm . Now , here chatting with you , I feel , um , it does n't matter .


Even today , in front of the lens , I 'm a nervous wreck .

Even <date>today</date> , in front of the lens , I 'm a nervous wreck .


Mm , very tense .


Did you act then ?


Of course , every day we had to , um , it was n't just recitation , so , doing sketches , this and that .


I thought , this is definitely not working .


Just getting on stage gave you the shakes .


Then , , no , it was n't my thing , this , I could n't find out why , and besides in those days ,


Um , it was in '80 that I went to the Xi'an Film Studio ,

Um , it was in <date>'80</date> that I went to <org>the Xi'an Film Studio</org> ,


At that time , it was , always that kind of pompous stuff , or , that milquetoast kind of young male character , that kind of thing .


And I 'm not that kind of person , so I could n't get my bearings .


So then at the same time when I saw that Teng Wenji , he was probably thirty - some years old , he was the previous generation to us , very stubborn .

So then at the same time when I saw <person>that Teng Wenji</person> , he was probably <date>thirty - some years</date> old , he was the previous generation to us , very stubborn .


That projecting force of his , I thought wow , , that 's really good .


He could really project .


Because ultimately , there , I gradually realized this .


And I would be in the audience and see him directing on site .


Mm .


Mm , I could see how they worked .


In fact in the beginning the attraction to movies was all these things , I thought it was really a bunch of fluff , I thought , that 's really fun , that 's really interesting .


I thought who was stubborn , then I wanted to be that kind of person , but that did n't mean I knew anything about that profession .


So no one ever came looking for you to do a play ?


At that time --


Mm , no one ever came looking -- .


They looked , but it was always just for an extra .


, you did n't even have any lines .


That Xi'an Incident thing , I played an extra once .

That <event>Xi'an Incident</event> thing , I played an extra once .


There was a guy playing Zhang Xueliang , and I played his secretary going in to report to him , and I did it a few times but I was always in the wrong place .

There was a guy playing <person>Zhang Xueliang</person> , and I played his secretary going in to report to him , and I did it a few times but I was always in the wrong place .


What were your lines supposed to be ?


It was " reporting , a telegram " that sort of thing .


So you --


So I had never served as a soldier , that kind of pose , it was really awful .


So after I gave that up , no , it was not that kind of thing .


So the old director , Cheng Yin , um ,

So the old director , <person>Cheng Yin</person> , um ,


Mm .


He would say , this is An Qi 's son , why is he like that ?

He would say , this is <person>An Qi 's</person> son , why is he like that ?


Do you remember how many takes you did ?


Oh , a lot .


I think it was something like ten plus times .

I think it was something like <cardinal>ten plus</cardinal> times .


It was too , I 'd walk badly and turn like that .


, I attended that class for half a year , um , um and then I got sick .

, I attended that class for <date>half a year</date> , um , um and then I got sick .


Um , I got , , an inflammation of the central nervous system , so my whole body was paralyzed .


Your whole body was paralyzed ?


Right .


Right . I was paralyzed for ten months .

Right . I was paralyzed for <date>ten months</date> .


So you could n't move at all .


I could n't move at all .


When it started , my leg went numb , then my hand went numb , and then it started cross over , like that , and then slowly , slowly , slowly I could n't move .


What 's the scientific name of the disease ?


It 's called Guillain - Barre Syndrome .


It 's named after a foreigner .


Mm .


Ahem , if naming it somewhat common , it 's , a paralysis of the central nervous system , um , it goes from the nerve endings to the flesh , and , then it turns into myasthenia .


And how did you get better , later ?


Hormones .


You took hormones .


Um , , every day I had a transfusion .


Mm , after you get hormones , people may get very fat .


Very fat .


I 'm so fat now , but compared to then it 's much better , in fact .


At that time how fat were you ?


Yah .


Getting so fat , it was this , if I looked down I could see my own cheeks , so I thought I was really fat .


What do you mean ?


If I just look down , my cheeks are right here .


But after they finished with the hormones , I gradually got better .


The flesh all atrophied , um .


If you look at when I was in middle school , based on that bit of exercise --


Later , based on that , it all evaporated .


I 've heard it said that that Wang Shuo novel , which we later saw as a television play --

I 've heard it said that that <person>Wang Shuo</person> novel , which we later saw as a television play --


Sometimes , oh , right .


Mm .


Get some fun .


The language in that , the part Wang Zhiwen played , the disease he got is about the same as your disease , is n't it ?

The language in that , the part <person>Wang Zhiwen</person> played , the disease he got is about the same as your disease , is n't it ?


Right , right , right , right .


So sometimes , oh , it was me and Wang Shuo , together , it was , um , in '89 .

So sometimes , oh , it was me and <person>Wang Shuo</person> , together , it was , um , in <date>'89</date> .


Mm , together , um , wrote a -- .


Aye , the script I wanted , the novel he wrote , um , that piece we created together .


Therefore , at that time , we were talking and talking to shoot , an urban love story , tell a love story , so he took me , at that time , , more or less that story , as background .


Then after I went back to Beijning , when we made arrangement and were eating together , I saw Wang Shuo for the first time

Then after I went back to <gpe>Beijning</gpe> , when we made arrangement and were eating together , I saw <person>Wang Shuo</person> for the <ordinal>first</ordinal> time


Then , when I saw him for the first time , Wang Shuo was holding a book in his arms , a book , that was Floating on the Sea , that novel he wrote , it was a sample .

Then , when I saw him for the <ordinal>first</ordinal> time , <person>Wang Shuo</person> was holding a book in his arms , a book , that was <work_of_art>Floating on the Sea</work_of_art> , that novel he wrote , it was a sample .


Gave it to me , and I took it back to school to read .


I read it and wow , that day , I thought he would be able --


Our generation could really find ourselves , I mean --


Um , in the end I knew we --


Why we studied movies , um , and why wrote things , expressing one 's own kind of thing is the most accurate person


Ye Daying had already read Wang Shuo 's novel Love the Hard Way , and the story and the style it was written in made a profound impression on him .

<person>Ye Daying</person> had already read <person>Wang Shuo 's</person> novel <work_of_art>Love the Hard Way</work_of_art> , and the story and the style it was written in made a profound impression on him .


He sighed , this expresses what our generation really wants to express .


Later he was introduced by a friend , and Ye Daying met the author of the novel , Wang Shuo , at the film institute .

Later he was introduced by a friend , and <person>Ye Daying</person> met the author of the novel , <person>Wang Shuo</person> , at the film institute .


That was the beginning of their long friendship , which continues today .

That was the beginning of their long friendship , which continues <date>today</date> .


How many plays did you collaborate on ?


Hi everyone /.


first up on the docket tonight we got an interview with the witness who led investigators to a landfill in the search for Natalee Holloway /.

<ordinal>first</ordinal> up on the docket <time>tonight</time> we got an interview with the witness who led investigators to a landfill in the search for <person>Natalee Holloway</person> /.


He 's telling NBC news what and who he saw just days after Natalee 's May thirtieth disappearance /.

He 's telling <org>NBC</org> news what and who he saw <date>just days</date> after <person>Natalee</person> 's <date>May thirtieth</date> disappearance /.


Also Natalee 's mother met with the lead prosecutor in the investigation today /.

Also <person>Natalee</person> 's mother met with the lead prosecutor in the investigation <date>today</date> /.


And while the landfill continues to be searched and lead suspect Joran Van Der Sloot is interrogated for the fourth straight day by a team of behavioral specialists NBC 's Michelle Kosinski remains in Aruba /.

And while the landfill continues to be searched and lead suspect <person>Joran Van Der Sloot</person> is interrogated for <date>the fourth straight day</date> by a team of behavioral specialists <org>NBC</org> 's <person>Michelle Kosinski</person> remains in <gpe>Aruba</gpe> /.


So Michelle the authorities really believe that uh this witness with regard to the landfill 's credible , do n't they /?

So <person>Michelle</person> the authorities really believe that uh this witness with regard to the landfill 's credible , do n't they /?


Well the authorities including the FBI we found out had checked this witness out early on just days after Natalee disappeared /.

Well the authorities including the <org>FBI</org> we found out had checked this witness out early on <date>just days</date> after <person>Natalee</person> disappeared /.


And we just found out about this witness a couple weeks ago /.

And we just found out about this witness <date>a couple weeks ago</date> /.


That 's when his existence became widely known through private investigators and other sources /.


And it has been reported that he was afraid to come forward /.


Well it turns out he was just afraid for his identity to be known /.


but we learned that he came forward very quickly after he says he saw what happened in the landfill that day just days after it happened /.

but we learned that he came forward very quickly after he says he saw what happened in the landfill <date>that day</date> <date>just days</date> after it happened /.


He talked to police /.


He talked to the FBI /.


The FBI actually went out to that landfill with dogs looked around that area even before it became piled up with garbage /.

The <org>FBI</org> actually went out to that landfill with dogs looked around that area even before it became piled up with garbage /.


and they did n't find anything /.


It 's the EquuSearch volunteers who really said hey we believe this guy /.

It 's the <org>EquuSearch</org> volunteers who really said hey we believe this guy /.


His story does n't change /.


He seems to pan out /.


He seems to be a lucid guy /.


He seems to also be insistent that he saw something /.


So he says he saw some men drive up in a white pickup truck men that he says he later recognized to be the three suspects in this case /.

So he says he saw some men drive up in a white pickup truck men that he says he later recognized to be the <cardinal>three</cardinal> suspects in this case /.


He says they took what looked like a body out of the back of the pickup truck /.


It was wrapped up in a bag /.


But when the wind blew he says he saw the upper part of a woman 's body blonde hair /.


and then he says they buried this body there in the landfill /.


Well over a period of weeks some ten feet of garbage has piled up /.

Well over <date>a period of weeks</date> <quantity>some ten feet</quantity> of garbage has piled up /.


EquuSearch will tell you too that when they bring out dogs it 's very difficult for a dog to catch a scent in that landfill when they 're coming across things like medical waste /.

<org>EquuSearch</org> will tell you too that when they bring out dogs it 's very difficult for a dog to catch a scent in that landfill when they 're coming across things like medical waste /.


but they 're determined to keep going /.


He saw uh the woman 's body and inside a bag /.


Her hair was blowing out with the wind /.


And uh he did n't say this now /.


but he told that the back kind of came off and he saw half of the woman 's body /.


One of the most compelling reasons searchers say they believe this guy very much is that they say he gave them some clues as to things they would find buried deep within that garbage around that same area where he claims he saw a body things like a plastic pool /.


He said that there was a dirt road buried under all that garbage /.


Well they found those things and a couple of other items that he said would be there /.


The problem is they just have n't found any sign at all of Natalee Holloway /.

The problem is they just have n't found any sign at all of <person>Natalee Holloway</person> /.


but they want to clear that place out and just feel satisfied that they looked as best they could because it 's disturbing /.


I mean his story has panned out in some ways /.


so they do n't want to give this up /.


Well that 's the question I have for you Michelle /.

Well that 's the question I have for you <person>Michelle</person> /.


So are you saying that the authorities uh looked into this guy 's story early on and they kind of pooh - poohed it and then EquuSearch came in a couple weeks later and said wait a sec , wait a sec , let 's give this guy a shot here and they followed up on it /?

So are you saying that the authorities uh looked into this guy 's story early on and they kind of pooh - poohed it and then <org>EquuSearch</org> came in <date>a couple weeks later</date> and said wait a sec , wait a sec , let 's give this guy a shot here and they followed up on it /?


Yeah pretty much /.


Uh the witness told us directly that in the beginning he felt like nobody was believing his story /.


But we talked to a high level source in law enforcement /.


and it turns out they did check it out /.


Hm /.


They sent the FBI out there with a dog /.

They sent the <org>FBI</org> out there with a dog /.


But EquuSearch says hey maybe we can do something more thoroughly here /.

But <org>EquuSearch</org> says hey maybe we can do something more thoroughly here /.


We can bring out teams of dogs /.


But here 's the thing /.


They still have n't found one sign of her /.

They still have n't found <cardinal>one</cardinal> sign of her /.


but uh they are determined to keep it up through the weekend at least /.

but uh they are determined to keep it up through <date>the weekend</date> at least /.


Alright Michelle Kosinski as always thanks a lot /.

Alright <person>Michelle Kosinski</person> as always thanks a lot /.


And as Michelle reported Natalee 's mother Beth Holloway Twitty met with the lead prosecutor in the investigation this afternoon Karin Janssen where she told Janssen about a girl came forward said she had an encounter with Joran Van Der Sloot the chief suspect /.

And as <person>Michelle</person> reported <person>Natalee</person> 's mother <person>Beth Holloway Twitty</person> met with the lead prosecutor in the investigation <time>this afternoon</time> <person>Karin Janssen</person> where she told <person>Janssen</person> about a girl came forward said she had an encounter with <person>Joran Van Der Sloot</person> the chief suspect /.


And on our program last night Beth told me the story /.

And on our program <time>last night</time> <person>Beth</person> told me the story /.


A beautiful eighteen year old blonde - headed girl from New Jersey um you know was able to recount an encounter that she had with Joran Van Der Sloot Deepak Kalpoe and Satish Kalpoe during the month of April oh five /.

A beautiful <date>eighteen year old</date> blonde - headed girl from <gpe>New Jersey</gpe> um you know was able to recount an encounter that she had with <person>Joran Van Der Sloot</person> <person>Deepak Kalpoe</person> and <person>Satish Kalpoe</person> during <date>the month of April oh five</date> /.


And what did she say happened /?


you know it 's a pretty long scenario /.


We have a lot of details /.


Um you know the main thing to to sum it up as you know Joran how he entered this establishment /.

Um you know the main thing to to sum it up as you know <person>Joran</person> how he entered this establishment /.


I believe that you know if you enter on the right side you have to have a valid ID /.


You enter Carlos N' Charlie 's on the left side you must have some type of I do n't know if it 's a VIP pass or what to enter /.

You enter <org>Carlos N' Charlie 's</org> on the left side you must have some type of I do n't know if it 's a VIP pass or what to enter /.


but Joran enters the establishment on the left side +approaches these group of tourist /.

but <person>Joran</person> enters the establishment on the left side +approaches these group of tourist /.


Um you know it 's interesting how he is able to um try to work his way in and connect establish himself in uh Carlos N' Charlie 's /.

Um you know it 's interesting how he is able to um try to work his way in and connect establish himself in uh <org>Carlos N' Charlie 's</org> /.


Was walking her around and these other tourists and was able to point out Satish and Deepak Kalpoe /.

Was walking her around and these other tourists and was able to point out <person>Satish</person> and <person>Deepak Kalpoe</person> /.


They 're sitting ironically in the same corner the same stools that they were seated at in the picture that 's been all over international media /.


So that must be their spot where they wait while Joran is working /.

So that must be their spot where they wait while <person>Joran</person> is working /.


And um you know it was so interesting how everyone in the casino knew Joran /.

And um you know it was so interesting how everyone in the casino knew <person>Joran</person> /.


you know he knew everyone was greeting all the guys with this grip handshake /.


All the girls approach him with a kiss on the cheek /.


It was interesting how um you know he was able to order these group of girls by just merely leaning over the bar and ordering three shots of one fifty - one one for himself and three for the tourists with no money /.

It was interesting how um you know he was able to order these group of girls by just merely leaning over the bar and ordering <cardinal>three</cardinal> shots of <product>one fifty - one</product> <cardinal>one</cardinal> for himself and <cardinal>three</cardinal> for the tourists with no money /.


So he 's got an open uh tab at Carlos N' Charlie 's /.

So he 's got an open uh tab at <org>Carlos N' Charlie 's</org> /.


able to run a tab /.


And you know then you notice that in a evening 's proceeding he 's even approaching these girls getting close to closing time /.

And you know then you notice that in a <time>evening</time> 's proceeding he 's even approaching these girls getting close to closing time /.


Did /.


So that 's another unique pattern that he has /.


did she say uh anything about uh violence /?


No she did n't say anything about violence /.


but what I was looking for was a history is a predatory type behavior which I think Joran and Deepak and Satish have and how tightly connected the three are /.

but what I was looking for was a history is a predatory type behavior which I think <person>Joran</person> and <person>Deepak</person> and <person>Satish</person> have and how tightly connected the <cardinal>three</cardinal> are /.


Now i- /.


Joining me now is the private investigator who has been uh working with Natalee 's family TJ Ward and his associate Harold Phipps /.

Joining me now is the private investigator who has been uh working with <person>Natalee</person> 's family <person>TJ Ward</person> and his associate <person>Harold Phipps</person> /.


Gentlemen thanks very much uh for coming on the program /.


+Appreciate it /.


Thank you /.


TJ let me start with you on this issue of this woman uh who came up uh to Beth /.

TJ let me start with you on this issue of this woman uh who came up uh to <person>Beth</person> /.


Have you been able to follow up on that /.


and how relevant do you think it is /?


Uh we have n't followed up with it /.


Um Beth and I have talked about it /.

Um <person>Beth</person> and I have talked about it /.


and we will be following up on it uh here shortly /.


is it relevant /?


I mean a lot of my viewers wrote in saying alright so what /.


this guy 's a pickup artist /.


how does that really impact the case /?


Well it just shows it 's a pattern of um what his activity is when he hangs out at Carlos N' Charlie 's /.

Well it just shows it 's a pattern of um what his activity is when he hangs out at <org>Carlos N' Charlie 's</org> /.


I mean and trying to pick women up and take them from the bar and whatever he 's doing with them after that /.


But if there 's no violence associated with that does that help you in the investigation /?


Well again we do n't think there was a violent issue with him with Natalee /.

Well again we do n't think there was a violent issue with him with <person>Natalee</person> /.


We think probably +something has happened to Natalee /.

We think probably +something has happened to <person>Natalee</person> /.


and they panicked and then went forth and did what they were supposed to do /.


I mean there 's issues that 's come up /.


Um um well we feel something happened when Natalee was with them /.

Um um well we feel something happened when <person>Natalee</person> was with them /.


What do you mean by that /?


Either she either passed out regurgitated /.


um something had happened /.


And on top of that now there 's a statement that 's come up from Joran Van Der Sloot that he 's given to the police uh one of twenty - two statements he 's given by the way that um Deepak had uh raped her and killed her on the beach /.

And on top of that now there 's a statement that 's come up from <person>Joran Van Der Sloot</person> that he 's given to the police uh <cardinal>one</cardinal> of <cardinal>twenty - two</cardinal> statements he 's given by the way that um <person>Deepak</person> had uh raped her and killed her on the beach /.


So at this point what the police have you know again we 're unaware because we 're not getting any information from law enforcement /.


so we have to go on the course of information that we 're gathering on behalf of the family /.


Well let me ask Harold how do you all know that /?

Well let me ask <person>Harold</person> how do you all know that /?


I mean that information for example about that particular statement that TJ was just mentioning /.

I mean that information for example about that particular statement that <person>TJ</person> was just mentioning /.


How do we know that /?


Yeah how do you know that that statement was actually made by Joran Van Der Sloot /?

Yeah how do you know that that statement was actually made by <person>Joran Van Der Sloot</person> /?


Oh we do n't /.


This is the statements that were being attributed to us on those /.


Uh since we have n't interviewed Joran we do n't know exactly what he has said /.

Uh since we have n't interviewed <person>Joran</person> we do n't know exactly what he has said /.


but some of that statement has been let out /.


and uh through a chain of different individuals uh uh they have told us uh what the statement was /.


TJ just so I 'm clear where are you getting that from that that statement was made by Joran about Deepak /?

<person>TJ</person> just so I 'm clear where are you getting that from that that statement was made by <person>Joran</person> about <person>Deepak</person> /?


I have seen a copy of the statement from one of the local newspapers here um Diario /.

I have seen a copy of the statement from <cardinal>one</cardinal> of the local newspapers here um <org>Diario</org> /.


Um Jossy Mansur produced and showed me a copy of that statement that uh Joran Van Der Sloot made um the last time that I was here in Aruba /.

Um <person>Jossy Mansur</person> produced and showed me a copy of that statement that uh <person>Joran Van Der Sloot</person> made um the last time that I was here in <gpe>Aruba</gpe> /.


and uh he conveyed it from Dutch into English and uh showed me the statement /.

and uh he conveyed it from <language>Dutch</language> into <language>English</language> and uh showed me the statement /.


Uh TJ are you in any trouble there /?

Uh <person>TJ</person> are you in any trouble there /?


I mean there 's been a lot of discussions about the authorities getting uh annoyed about you knocking on doors and things like that /.


Well it 's not that /.


Um there was some /.


the Aruban authorities /-


and we 've had conversations about this /.


This is squared away /.


It 's been straightened out /.


Um there was uh some evidence that leaked out to the fact that had an arrest warrant for my arrest on Wednesday and that I was working without a work permit and I was going to be deported by law enforcement and Wednesday night the law enforcement was looking for me to arrest me /.

Um there was uh some evidence that leaked out to the fact that had an arrest warrant for my arrest on <date>Wednesday</date> and that I was working without a work permit and I was going to be deported by law enforcement and <time>Wednesday night</time> the law enforcement was looking for me to arrest me /.


Uh all that is untrue /.


and I want to make that perfectly clear /.