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Racey#8574: don't let anything except the bottom of a CPU touch it Racey#8574: if you bend the socket pins it's game over Racey#8574: most of the time BeepBeepZangoose#4712: How do I safely remove/ insert the cpu? BeepBeepZangoose#4712: Just very carefully or is ther a technique Racey#8574: to take out the CPU just hold it by the sides with your fingers carefully Racey#8574: to put it in it's the opposite way but make sure the arrow on the CPU is lined up with the arrow on the motherboard Racey#8574: facing it* BeepBeepZangoose#4712: Thanks BeepBeepZangoose#4712: You guys are good at tech tips thatubuntuguy#5914: If it doesn't just slide in nicely don't close the clip or you will bend pins thatubuntuguy#5914: once it is in properly it may take more force than you're comfortable with to close it thatubuntuguy#5914: it's not hard tho thatubuntuguy#5914: for thermal paste i recommend mx4 thatubuntuguy#5914: or mx2
thatubuntuguy#5914: cheap and does the job Racey#8574: Any thermal paste works thatubuntuguy#5914: yeah fair it is an old i5 Racey#8574: Only difference would be 2-3 degrees thatubuntuguy#5914: its not exactly expensive tho tdp2612#3835: also just check what cooler you have though tdp2612#3835: if youve got the stock intel really thin one (about 2cm tall for the metal bit) you will have to expect it to run at the thermal limit whenever you play games VanGuard#4548: Is black label VS 550? Goooood? tdp2612#3835: no tdp2612#3835: by black if you mean black with orange, bomb tdp2612#3835: if by black you mean black/silver/grey, slightly better but still avoid VanGuard#4548: I mean black silver grey tdp2612#3835: still better to avoid it tdp2612#3835: you can get a cx for the same sort of money and theyre much better CaptainFlanger#2563: ^^
Budget#8265: Yeah the VS Series is strange cause CX is the same price and better VanGuard#4548: 🇩🇰 :Oof: jojosensei#4198: Hi I am new here ! What it the best GPU I can find for 15-20 euros ? (No config yet but checking for some light medium gaming) Thanks ! tdp2612#3835: id say at that budget, you might just wanna not bother, keep using integrated graphics, and wait until you have ~40 or 50 at which point you can get something solid, like a 750ti jojosensei#4198: Some 560 ti won't be interesting ? tdp2612#3835: i mean theyre alright but they arent as powerful nor as energy efficient as a 750ti tdp2612#3835: whats your psu like, do you have any spare 6/8 pins Sentient Potato#6003: Can’t you get a gtx 480 for 20 euros? jojosensei#4198: I have some ads for 750 for 20 euros Hd 5800 Sentient Potato#6003: Is it possible to stream at 720p using the i7 4770 jojosensei#4198: For now I don't have any PSU , I am looking to find an old i5 or an oem worth it for a super budget jojosensei#4198: Would like to find under 75 euros. I am maybe too greedy but I would like to see what can I get for that tdp2612#3835: > Is it possible to stream at 720p using the i7 4770 @Sentient Potato easily, i do 720 streams with my 2320 and 970, usually it adds 20% cpu usage
tdp2612#3835: so as long as its not a game where youre already hitting 100% cpu, youll be absolutely fine Sentient Potato#6003: Thanks dude tdp2612#3835: although I also do them in 30 fps, so if you capped your game at 30 then youll have 0 issues anyway tdp2612#3835: but thats just because my internet isnt too fast jojosensei#4198: So is a gtx 750 2go 20 3euros worth ? tdp2612#3835: if you can actually get it for 20, yes jojosensei#4198: Thanks I will try to have it. tdp2612#3835: if you get a 1155 prebuilt theres an almost certain chance you wont have any spare 6 pin connectors off the psu so a 750ti is probably the best youll get other than spending a lot more for a 1050 or 1050ti jojosensei#4198: A 750 won't work ? jojosensei#4198: Which prebuilt will go well with a 750 2go ? Jam#0384: wait Jam#0384: 20 or 203 euros Jam#0384: I'm confused @jojosensei Jam#0384: Either way it will be on the slower side jojosensei#4198: For 20 euros. Is it that slow ?
Jam#0384: It's not very fast. I think Ryzen APUs beat it now Jam#0384: It's slower than the GT 1030 Jam#0384: Which can't run most AAA titles well Jam#0384: if at all Jam#0384: But for the price it's not bad Jam#0384: 20 is cheap Racey#8574: The Vega 11 offers pretty much the same performance as the GTX 750 jojosensei#4198: Yep I know that it's only a 20 euros GPU that won't do miracle but I just want to know if it's worth geting jojosensei#4198: How much is that ? tdp2612#3835: vega 11 is the onboard graphics of some of the modern ryzens jojosensei#4198: They cost a little bit more than 20 euros no ? tdp2612#3835: considering youd need a whole ryzen system tdp2612#3835: !search ryzen 2400g Rythm#3722: ❌ **You have to be in a voice channel to use this command.** tdp2612#3835: cex bot is dead it seems
tdp2612#3835: https://uk.webuy.com/product-detail?id=scpuamdr52400g&categoryName=processors-amd&superCatName=computing&title=amd-ryzen-5-2400g-%283.6ghz%29-am4 Deleted User#0000: Hey, does anyone know if 1151 can be a cost effective upgrade from 1155? jojosensei#4198: As I am waiting for that gtx 750 I have found 2 others ads that I need some advice on. I found for 40 euros an i5 3570k, an i3 2130 and 2x2 ddr3 ram And for 50 euros a Fujitsu esprimo e710 (i5 3570, gt630 go, 4 go ddr3) and a free 500 HDD but in what seem an sff case. Are they worth getting ? Budget#8265: 1151 is not worth touching Budget#8265: AM4 is better and cheaper tdp2612#3835: @jojosensei dont bother with the other bits, the prebuilt sounds fine tdp2612#3835: Although if you really want to, buy the 3570k and resell it as you could make maybe 20 euros on it tdp2612#3835: Google the prebuilt, see what the board looks like and how easy it would be to put into a proper case jojosensei#4198: What are the things to particulary look for in the pre built ? tdp2612#3835: Check if the motherboard is a normal shape, that the psu connector is a normal 24 pin, that sort of thing tdp2612#3835: And if the front panel connectors are not normal jojosensei#4198: Bad news it seem that it has 16 pin TheFifthAce#4128: @Deleted User 1151 is an awful option
TheFifthAce#4128: am4 is much better Jam#0384: Then dont use it JustinXenyx#8854: 1151 is ANYTHING BUT a cost effective upgrade from 1155 @Deleted User JustinXenyx#8854: AM4 clashes the shit out of 1151 price and value wise Lady Mipha#0611: ^^^^^ VanGuard#4548: Would a I5 7640XE be good? JustinXenyx#8854: hell no JustinXenyx#8854: the 7640X is dumb as fuck pep#4304: Does anyone know where I can get drivers for the packard bell legend 4610? Can't seem to find them or much info about the PC itself JustinXenyx#8854: If it's some obscure PC from like the mid nineties chances are you're fucked pep#4304: It appears so pep#4304: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/703914165554905088/IMG_20200426_052012.jpg CaptainFlanger#2563: 7th gen X series Intel CPUs are a joke, basically. Jamie.Cullen#8363: Need help with a Fujitsu P4 machine Jamie.Cullen#8363: It says a boot error occured
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Tried reseating the RAM Jamie.Cullen#8363: Tried different disk Jamie.Cullen#8363: Still won't boot Jamie.Cullen#8363: The first time I turned it on it booted into windows XP and then it bluescreened Jamie.Cullen#8363: Won't boot after that CaptainFlanger#2563: Are you sure that the OS in the drive is still okay? CaptainFlanger#2563: What I know, "boot error occurred" probably means it couldn't load the operating system and/or access the hard disk. Jamie.Cullen#8363: I'll try different cable Jamie.Cullen#8363: Also the psu has coil whine CaptainFlanger#2563: Ouch! Jamie.Cullen#8363: Now Says CMOS/GPNV Checksum bad CaptainFlanger#2563: That's odd CaptainFlanger#2563: Just hit F1 or whatever key to continue boot. Jamie.Cullen#8363: I restored system defaults in the bios Jamie.Cullen#8363: It boots to Linux lite no problem from USB stick
Jamie.Cullen#8363: So I'll try install it on a hard drive and then we'll see what happens CaptainFlanger#2563: Yeah, better check that first. CaptainFlanger#2563: Hopefully the hard drive is usable. Jamie.Cullen#8363: But I've tested multiple drives and it won't boot Deleted User#0000: maybe you should replace the psu if it has coilwine.... Deleted User#0000: in my experience a bad psu can allow your machine to boot, but you'll get a pretty unstable experience CaptainFlanger#2563: ^ Jam#0384: Also make sure BIOS settings are correct wiryfuture🦀#1706: @"Cobs" apparently you know how to upgrade many ubuntu 18.04 VMs to 20.04? "Cobs"#1150: > @"Cobs" apparently you know how to upgrade many ubuntu 18.04 VMs to 20.04? @wiryfuture🦀 Have you got high availability configured with MAAS? your best shot is just to go down them one at a time, what's been referred to is me deploying servers via images allowing installation of multiple oses' on servers at a time. not updates wiryfuture🦀#1706: um, no and I don't really know what it is "Cobs"#1150: best bet is just to go down them one at a time and run the distupgrade command. if you have something like SecureCRT installed you can open connections to lots at once and probs have a hotkey to do the work for you Jam#0384: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/704043591177338961/image0.png Deleted User#0000: Hey, I'm having a problem with the internal connectors on my Joshua-H61-uATX motherboard. My Focus G case has a USB header connector that's supposed to be connected to the motherboard but the Joshua board has 3 types of front USB headers labled as "F_USB1, F_USB2, F_USB3" with the F_USB3 looking completely different from both F_USB1 and F_USB2.
Deleted User#0000: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/704057311521669150/IMG_20200426_125154019.jpg Deleted User#0000: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/704057444657135696/IMG_20200426_125244743.jpg tdp2612#3835: that is weird yeah tdp2612#3835: just put it in 1 or 2 Deleted User#0000: Alright, hopefully I won't short anything tdp2612#3835: whats a good way of convinving someone that a 400w psu isnt really much headroom for a r5 2600 and 1660 super Jam#0384: It should work i think Jam#0384: Just has to be a good 400W unit Jam#0384: A mediocre unit won’t cut it Xbox 360 1953#2640: is there a 1200af link on pcpp yet? Xbox 360 1953#2640: https://parts.metservers.com/dps-600ub-a-hp-z420-workstation-600w-power-supply does this seem like a decent psu? Xbox 360 1953#2640: not for the price on that site tho tdp2612#3835: dont bother tdp2612#3835: too proprietary tdp2612#3835: its got an 18 pin pwoer connector
Xbox 360 1953#2640: ah, i see Xbox 360 1953#2640: Didn't count the pins tdp2612#3835: also just looks like weird connectors tdp2612#3835: no molex or anything, i didnt even see a 6 pin Xbox 360 1953#2640: http://www.ascendtech.us/delta-700watt-dps-700fb-b-power-supply_i_cspdltdps700fbb.aspx how about this one? Xbox 360 1953#2640: Site says it has normal connectors Budget#8265: Loojs normal Budget#8265: They;re usually solid PSUs from Delta Ramiere#1840: Whats a good cpu fan? Nothing too crazy im only getting an i5 3470 JoshTheTechie#2808: I like the cooler master hyper 212 evo but that might be a bit crazy for what you're after I'm guessing tdp2612#3835: a 212 will do a great job there, but theres better coolers quite honestly tdp2612#3835: theres also a real chance that the 212 wont fit in your case, mine only just clears tdp2612#3835: get one of them freezer esports things, they perform a bit better and are far more compact, although cost a bit more tdp2612#3835: getting one of them will also mean you can move it to newer platforms, as the 212 evo am4 adapter is extremely rare Jam#0384: The 212 is overkill
Jam#0384: Just use the stock cooler Jam#0384: If you don't have one Jam#0384: There's some better deals than the 212 tdp2612#3835: I wouldn't say its that overkill JoshTheTechie#2808: Fair point on if it will fit tdp2612#3835: Like mine eith the 212 gets to 65 at the very worst, but stock cooler it would hit 72 within a minute of gameplay and sit there JoshTheTechie#2808: Yeah I wouldn’t say it’s overkill I had one in my old system and I was good a just ordered one for my new system JoshTheTechie#2808: I hope it fits 😅 Jam#0384: It is totally overkill Jam#0384: The stock cooler performs virtually the same. It's hardly any hotter. tdp2612#3835: No tdp2612#3835: No no no no no Jam#0384: The difference is when you have an overclocking chip tdp2612#3835: No Jam#0384: Yes
tdp2612#3835: No Jam#0384: yes lmao tdp2612#3835: No tdp2612#3835: If he has the same stock cooler as me he'll be able to back me up tdp2612#3835: Although i know they did a beefier one too Jam#0384: I've used the stock coolers from HP and Dell on similar i5s Jam#0384: They are certainly LOUDER Jam#0384: But the temperatures are 5c hotter max Jam#0384: That's not worth it on a CPU that doesn't even overclock Jam#0384: You gain nothing. Jam#0384: Those i5s don't run hot. Jam#0384: Just use the stock cooler. Jam#0384: Unless you literally have: Jam#0384: this with no copper https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/704144344231182356/814HBHPMnhL.png Jam#0384: Which should still be able to cool it at 70C or below.
tdp2612#3835: I had that one tdp2612#3835: And it really couldnt cool it for shit tdp2612#3835: Putting any load on it in a game would be too much for it and would go up to tcase or whatever its called on intels site tdp2612#3835: But even then the '' '' better''' ' ones are a mile off something like a 212 that will keep it well cooled Jam#0384: A 212 is genuinely overkill though Deleted User#0000: Talking about overclocking I was thinking on getting one of those snowman coolers with 6 heatpipes, are they good for the price? Deleted User#0000: I'm gonna overclock a xeon x3440 and I don't have a stellar budget Budget#8265: Stock cooler for that would be fine Budget#8265: They arent hot CPUs Budget#8265: Stock cooler or the Arctic Equivalent for like sub #5 Xbox 360 1953#2640: arctic 12 lp is like 9 usd Jam#0384: See Jam#0384: Literally thats what i said Xbox 360 1953#2640: i think the co is like 12 usd and it's a little taller Xbox 360 1953#2640: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/420433547212488705/704165851653472346/20200426_230136.jpg thoughts?
Xbox 360 1953#2640: My friend is gonna use this as a server apparently Lady Mipha#0611: :Bruhh: Lady Mipha#0611: does that thing even start Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Is...Is that a laptop to desktop DIMM converter? JustinXenyx#8854: Lord save his ass Lady Mipha#0611: yes it is @Charlie Foxtrot Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Such a blasphemy. Charlie Foxtrot#9831: We must purge it with bleach and fire. JustinXenyx#8854: I can somewhat appreciate the PSU mount/"case" but that shit hella ghetto and isn't really doing a whole lot from what we can see JustinXenyx#8854: @Xbox 360 1953 got more pics? Xbox 360 1953#2640: uh i'll see Xbox 360 1953#2640: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/420433547212488705/703680861052207114/20200425_145557.jpg Xbox 360 1953#2640: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/420433547212488705/702731920072507488/20200423_000517.jpg Lady Mipha#0611: :FightMe: JustinXenyx#8854: Ok that PSU is STRAIGHT from garbage town, get him to switch that shit @Xbox 360 1953
Xbox 360 1953#2640: I'll see about it Xbox 360 1953#2640: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/704174970422427699/unknown.png JustinXenyx#8854: screenshot me on this JustinXenyx#8854: IT'S A FUCKING FIRE HAZARD Xbox 360 1953#2640: alright JustinXenyx#8854: I'm assuming he runs like a Core i5 + RX480 on it which even then is pushing it hella hard for a PSU like that Xbox 360 1953#2640: i7 6700 JustinXenyx#8854: yikes Xbox 360 1953#2640: and rx 590 JustinXenyx#8854: Ok that's some mad fire hazard shit Xbox 360 1953#2640: they're swapping it to the new asus gt 730 or something Xbox 360 1953#2640: whenever that comes out Xbox 360 1953#2640: it has like 4 hdmi ports JustinXenyx#8854: GT710 and i think it releases in May JustinXenyx#8854: i know which one you mean
Xbox 360 1953#2640: Yeah, that was the one JustinXenyx#8854: So, to make the config a little clearer: i7 6700, MSI Z170 or H170 Gaming M3, presumably 8GB of SODIMM DDR4, RX 590, some 256GB SATA SSD and a PSU that is very likely a fire hazard with those components JustinXenyx#8854: Even with a GT710 it is a major fire hazard JustinXenyx#8854: Because the PSU is fucking trash Xbox 360 1953#2640: z170, 16gb i think Ramiere#1840: @tdp2612 @JoshTheTechie can’t lie it is a bit of overkill for a 3770 lmao it doesn’t get that hot i just dont have the stock cooler and needed something thatubuntuguy#5914: Send dead psu JoshTheTechie#2808: Yeah that’s why I said it’s probably a bit too much for you @Ramiere wiryfuture🦀#1706: could this 8 pin in my server be power? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/704332494950105140/JPEG_20200427_150530.jpg Lady Mipha#0611: what’s the server @wiryfuture🦀 Lady Mipha#0611: and probably yes wiryfuture🦀#1706: dell poweredge r620 jojosensei#4198: Hi, found an ad (the man don't know what he is selling) selling what I think to be a fake 1060 and give a gtx 260 fir 25 euros. The ad says M/N nVidia gtx 1060 5GD5 v2 and MSI N260 gtx series. I see a vga on the card so I think it's fake but not sure. tdp2612#3835: dont bother, even for a 260 thats a ripoff tdp2612#3835: send a picture of the advert
BigPierogi#3368: i dont think 5gb cards exist BigPierogi#3368: do they? MythologicalZ#3752: There are 1060 5gbs MythologicalZ#3752: But Pascal doesnt have vga afaik Alcyone#2233: ive never seen a 10 series with vga, its probably a gts 450 or something Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Problem is, no cards I know have 5GB VRAM except for that 1060. Why specifically a 1060 5GB, not 6GB? MythologicalZ#3752: https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-gtx-1060-5-gb.c3060 MythologicalZ#3752: some asian market only variant iirc Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Picture plz @jojosensei jojosensei#4198: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/704338180706402374/af0793e26dc7ba1777838b1f4ecaddd396ed9f96.jpg jojosensei#4198: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/704338188923306105/ba7108d7e0b3a894a5b2fbfb40f29c4d388517cd.jpg jojosensei#4198: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/704338193142513794/dc97ccba2c3dd897ff0f658c7800f32b2ee0453c.jpg MythologicalZ#3752: yeah scam card BigPierogi#3368: that card looks fake as hell BigPierogi#3368: no 1060 has a vga
MythologicalZ#3752: 260 looks legit though MythologicalZ#3752: shitty price but real card BigPierogi#3368: also that shroud on the 1060 indicates its fake tdp2612#3835: yeah the 260 is very legit jojosensei#4198: Ok not bothering Charlie Foxtrot#9831: S C A M Alcyone#2233: real pascal will have hdmi + displayport, and probably dvi-d but no analog connections jojosensei#4198: Another question how are the HD5850 and as I have discovered it in crossfire configuration ? maximum consommation and heat I think tdp2612#3835: too old, dont bother Alcyone#2233: terrascale is bad on w10 and in 2020 Alcyone#2233: if youre getting amd get 7xxx or newer, nvidia 900 series and up Lady Mipha#0611: ^^^^ jojosensei#4198: Even if I get the 2 for 20 bucks. At least for reselling ? MythologicalZ#3752: Crossfire is broken for terascale too MythologicalZ#3752: they're only worth like 20 in any case
MythologicalZ#3752: I got a matrix version for 25 MythologicalZ#3752: and thats a 5870 too thatubuntuguy#5914: that cooler design is a classic fake card thatubuntuguy#5914: it's a gts 450/550ti Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Where the hell are they getting these 550Ti from? Charlie Foxtrot#9831: The garbage chute? thatubuntuguy#5914: they probably bought a fuck ton of them cheap off wholesale thatubuntuguy#5914: rebranded em and tried to scalp people for a neat profit thatubuntuguy#5914: I had the palit gts 450 thatubuntuguy#5914: you can see the heatsink underneath the shroud, it's identical to the one on my gts 450 thatubuntuguy#5914: i have no idea how they keep selling these things jojosensei#4198: Too bad those HD xxxx are too old. I love their case decoration JustinXenyx#8854: Multi GPU in general has been trash for over a decade, literally wouldn't bother unless you were doing some fancy pants high end rig Jam#0384: Exaggeration Jam#0384: It’s only been around for just over a decade in terms of Nvidia/ATI
Jam#0384: The falloff point was around Kepler. Jam#0384: 2013-2014 ish Jam#0384: Before then Dual GPU was not super good value, but viable in games on the higher end jojosensei#4198: So those 5850 are not worth selling ? JustinXenyx#8854: Nah not really SuSSudio#2688: Terascale cards are only worth keeping on shelves & occassional runs... a relic at this point, atleast for anything modern. Sentient Potato#6003: Is the 5850 compatible with Windows 10? SuSSudio#2688: > terrascale is bad on w10 and in 2020 - Alycone Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Casual? Yes. SuSSudio#2688: Runs, but barely cope with modern games & 3D composition softwares Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Gaming? The games will run better in your dreams than on the GPU. SuSSudio#2688: But old timers like me do enjoy these cards, chilling with W7 & early 2010s games... smooth as butter Sentient Potato#6003: Tbh I only need it so ma can play Oregon trail Sentient Potato#6003: I’m just glad w10 supports it
Sentient Potato#6003: Not glad how unobservent I am JustinXenyx#8854: @Sentient Potato Runs but is pretty plagued with some issues Sentient Potato#6003: Even with the 1.8 ghz c2d? JustinXenyx#8854: Sure it'll get you running better than like Intel HD or a GT something but not really recommended jojosensei#4198: I guess it's the same answer for 2 gtx 580 sli ? JustinXenyx#8854: generally anything multiGPU should be avoided in 2020 JustinXenyx#8854: makes no real sense especially at the low end jojosensei#4198: And alone ? tdp2612#3835: yeah just get a 750ti or something for the cost of 2 JustinXenyx#8854: 580 isn't a strong card, better off with like a 750Ti with a slight performance hit on paper but MUCH better drivers and way better power efficiency jojosensei#4198: Trying to get a 750ti but it's quite hard as they go fast jojosensei#4198: Found one at 20 euros and waiting for answer jojosensei#4198: Could it be a fake one ? jojosensei#4198: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/704374871576150116/5b5ff42e07d9b9e009033811e406298a65c8c7c1.jpg jojosensei#4198: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/704374873807519864/19b0aeb44541e136735f3de2fc25648079a656e7.jpg
jojosensei#4198: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/704374878333042758/650d1b24267f4b1269c9aa8f5592cd54f12d9b26.jpg BigPierogi#3368: probably BigPierogi#3368: it has the shroud of a fake one MythologicalZ#3752: Yeah it's fake MythologicalZ#3752: No Pascal shipped with vga jojosensei#4198: Ok I am getting every fake one Deleted User#0000: Hey, I've been having issues trying to install windows on my 1155 board, it keeps screaming out that my Kernel check didn't verify even though I know the image is goos Deleted User#0000: Good Deleted User#0000: I'm starting to think it's the ram Xbox 360 1953#2640: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/420433547212488705/704391666068619294/20200427_140017.jpg Xbox 360 1953#2640: "it's not a fire hazard" Xbox 360 1953#2640: "i looked over the electronics inside, its fine" Xbox 360 1953#2640: bRuh Xbox 360 1953#2640: @JustinXenyx what do Xbox 360 1953#2640: my guess is that the psu is a VTK550R
Miki2305#5707: Guys Miki2305#5707: I am concerned about something JustinXenyx#8854: honestly, if he wants to pay the price just let him, he'll learn @Xbox 360 1953 Miki2305#5707: My psu is acting up Miki2305#5707: Oh geez Miki2305#5707: I am catching a strong burning smell Miki2305#5707: Oh god why is it vibritaing af TheGeekster#8508: sounds like a fucked fan bearing, i'd suggest turning that off immediately TheGeekster#8508: and just replacing the PSU, don't fuck around with trying to replace the fan jojosensei#4198: What it the best (cost effective) GPU for an i5 3570k ? tdp2612#3835: 970, 1060 3 or spend a bit more and a 1060 6 jojosensei#4198: And the cheapest that won't bottleneck it too much ? Budget#8265: £50 RX470? Alcyone#2233: agreed polaris x70 or x80 Alcyone#2233: 1060 is good too but usually overpriced, no freesync with 970
jojosensei#4198: 50£ ? In france they are more 80-100. Maybe i'm just bad at finding good stuff Jam#0384: 80-100 is more common Jam#0384: You can find one for 65-70 if you look enough though jojosensei#4198: Ok is the 4go version good enought ? Jam#0384: yes Jam#0384: for 1080p Jam#0384: both are only good for 1080p really jojosensei#4198: Won't play at higher resolution. Don't really play AAA games either ^^ jojosensei#4198: What is the nitro version ? Jam#0384: just branding jojosensei#4198: Seem like a legit sapphire rx 480 ? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/704431761056333864/86766351_2995399313804089_6756767860585922560_o.jpg tdp2612#3835: looks legit to me yeah tdp2612#3835: not a bad looking card either jojosensei#4198: Strange that I found 2 differents ad for rx 480 cheaper than 470 SuSSudio#2688: Beware a mining card, ask the seller what was its usage history
SuSSudio#2688: Polaris cards (RX4/5XX) were commonly used for cryptocurrency mining back in 2017. Miners bought dozens of them & ran it 24/7 straight. Typically mining cards will have decreased lifespan due to mining loads. It'll may die sooner than you expected. jojosensei#4198: Yep it's only 65 euros so I am scared CaptainFlanger#2563: AMD cards are notorious for being a mining victims. CaptainFlanger#2563: For the lack of better term. Alcyone#2233: ive bought mining cards, the only issue I had was a fan getting noisy on one. the big thing to look for is the mining specific cards. dont get one that only has a single display output, usually a single dvi or hdmi Bwenfwake#6869: Heya guys, I'm hoping ya'll can help me here... Bwenfwake#6869: Now I'm usually pretty good in fixing/solving problems but this one has stumped me... Recently I keep getting a problem where my displays will just all go black at once. Bwenfwake#6869: However, it hasn't got any worse until today where I was in the middle of a game and the game got slower and slower until my PC literally just froze... At which point it then went to black screens... I think it might be my SSD dying at this stage but what are your thoughts? Bwenfwake#6869: I've tested my RAM and all is good, my power supply certainly has no problems either... It's hard to say what it is hence why I am asking. Cheers :) Bwenfwake#6869: I get no indication of a crash from within event viewer either... Hence why I can't troubleshoot really :/ Lady Mipha#0611: @Bwenfwake what gpu do you have and can you open crystalsdiskinfo and post a screenshot here Bwenfwake#6869: I have a GTX 1080, I'm currently running Crystal disk now :) Bwenfwake#6869: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/704508191224102912/unknown.png
Bwenfwake#6869: ik it's not info Bwenfwake#6869: but i was waiting for this to finish Bwenfwake#6869: my SSD seems fine.... Lady Mipha#0611: in those benchmarks it may Bwenfwake#6869: And yes ik A400 meme https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/704509000158412810/unknown.png Lady Mipha#0611: :Thonking: mi3night#2562: Ok my new mobo Shows 0d when trying to boot it mi3night#2562: Asus crosshair vii hero mi3night#2562: My cpu and ram both work mi3night#2562: I tired bios flashback and reseating both which didn’t work either Bwenfwake#6869: I just found this tho tbf https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/704510115201548338/unknown.png Bwenfwake#6869: but surely that's not enough to go black screens Bwenfwake#6869: maybe I'll try DDU of drivers or summin later Deleted User#0000: https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?92269-Q-code-error-0d-Crosshair-VI JC392#0392: I had a DRAM problem before
JC392#0392: Reseating CPU fixed it. JC392#0392: I assume this one isn't an A400 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/704527945250766928/Screenshot_20200428-040218_Discord.jpg JC392#0392: _they don't live long enough to reach the caution stage_ JustinXenyx#8854: > Polaris cards (RX4/5XX) were commonly used for cryptocurrency mining back in 2017. Miners bought dozens of them & ran it 24/7 straight. > > Typically mining cards will have decreased lifespan due to mining loads. It'll may die sooner than you expected. @SuSSudio sorry but i'm going to have to call bullshit on that one JustinXenyx#8854: If anything, mining cards will probably last the same or even longer than a typical gaming card used in a similar timeframe JustinXenyx#8854: A mining workload never used the card to its full potential, especially with how most miners downvolted them and power limited them to run the most efficiently SuSSudio#2688: I don't know who should i trust in this matter anymore.. some say avoid mining cards, some say yes... JustinXenyx#8854: most that say avoid are pretty much talking out of their asses to be quite honest SuSSudio#2688: Well yeah it's always been a debate JustinXenyx#8854: Not really, it's just that a lot of people that say to avoid them never really understood how they were used in the first place JustinXenyx#8854: they just assume the cards ran at full pace and shit when that is not the case at all JustinXenyx#8854: The only real drawback to mining cards is potentially having the fans die quicker, but those are like $5 to replace and usually takes like 30 minutes to do so
SuSSudio#2688: Good point Deleted User#0000: Hey Justin, is the Corsair CX series good power supplys? JustinXenyx#8854: What kind of CX? There have been multiple variants over the years JustinXenyx#8854: They're differentiated by their labeling Deleted User#0000: CX550M JustinXenyx#8854: That one's not bad JustinXenyx#8854: Just avoid the CX powersupplys with "green" labels Deleted User#0000: Have a example pic? JustinXenyx#8854: Reddit did the work for me https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/704559480913920111/LeBoRfr.png JustinXenyx#8854: bottom one is a green label Deleted User#0000: What's different with the green versions? Deleted User#0000: Cheaper parts? JustinXenyx#8854: generally a cheaper design that had some durability issues Deleted User#0000: Ah alright, the one I'm looking at has a black label Deleted User#0000: Though, I'm looking for a pretty durable power supply and I don't mind blowing the bank, which PSU would you get for 80$?
Deleted User#0000: I've been looking at Corsair RM550x JustinXenyx#8854: RMx is a decent bit better han the CX JustinXenyx#8854: Personally i'd get the highest efficiency one with enough wattage needed for my system and potential upgrade Deleted User#0000: As of right now, I only need 550 Watts JustinXenyx#8854: Given that i daily a 1.6KW AX1600i i think i've definitely gotten the efficiency but got a lot of upgrading headroom :Hahahahaha: Deleted User#0000: I'm going to spend money in areas where it makes my system more reliable Deleted User#0000: I'm using pc hardware from god knows where and I don't feel like adding in a 50 watt gpu with this low end 2014 psu Little Billy#3065: Ok i got a broken zbook g3 for cheap a week ago Little Billy#3065: i fixed it and i can totally recomend it Little Billy#3065: it has enough power games and work Little Billy#3065: 24gb ddr4 on my model Little Billy#3065: i7 6700 Little Billy#3065: quadro m1000m Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Cool. Charlie Foxtrot#9831: How cheap exactly?
Little Billy#3065: lets just say almost free Little Billy#3065: it was treated horribly by the old owner Little Billy#3065: but its okay now Little Billy#3065: it still has some minor problems Jam#0384: The only real disadvantage of a mining card may be fans dying Lady Mipha#0611: ^^^* Bwenfwake#6869: I get the impression that it was probably drivers Bwenfwake#6869: I reinstalled them this morning and so far no problems Miki2305#5707: If a laptop was staying without a battery and not plugged in for several months can it die Budget#8265: The Cells in the battery can be degraded and reduce the capacity of the battery. However unless the battery leaks no your laptop will be fine Miki2305#5707: Thanks budget Miki2305#5707: I was just wondering because my friend still hasnt got his laptop from his mother back and it has no battery and it wasnt been plugged in for the last 6 months Bwenfwake#6869: store your battery at roughly 50% full/empty Bwenfwake#6869: best way to keep them generally Miki2305#5707: Well the battery is no more
Bwenfwake#6869: oh lmao Bwenfwake#6869: no worries Miki2305#5707: Like 6 months ago Bwenfwake#6869: ah got ya haha Miki2305#5707: Well thank god I don't have a laptop Miki2305#5707: Thanks all Budget#8265: **Channel Rules have been updated** Budget#8265: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/704616010556375080/unknown.png Miki2305#5707: I hope you pin the message somwhere CaptainFlanger#2563: Pin the message, Budget. MythologicalZ#3752: It's the channel description,why pin it? CaptainFlanger#2563: I mean, I can bet most of people will be ignoring the channel description. CaptainFlanger#2563: People who don't understand, specifically. MythologicalZ#3752: Then tell them to read it jojosensei#4198: > ive bought mining cards, the only issue I had was a fan getting noisy on one. the big thing to look for is the mining specific cards. dont get one that only has a single display output, usually a single dvi or hdmi
@Alcyone So I should look for mining editions cards ? JustinXenyx#8854: No, he said specifically NOT to get mining specific cards @jojosensei JustinXenyx#8854: A lot of them do not even have display outputs SuSSudio#2688: ^ SuSSudio#2688: Most noticeable way to distinguish between **mining** & **regular** video cards is the number of display outputs JustinXenyx#8854: Cards that were used for mining? Sure. Cards specifically designed for Mining? Fuck no jojosensei#4198: Ha ok sorry didn't understand SuSSudio#2688: If you see no display outputs in the rear of the card then it's a mining card, if you see complete display outputs in the card, then it's the regular card jojosensei#4198: Ok thanks Budget#8265: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sapphire-Radeon-RX-470-NITRO-OC-Graphics-Card-4GB-GDDR5-DVI-D-HDMI-DP-/193335640684 Budget#8265: Lots of cheap refurb cards in the UK Budget#8265: Some people reporting a lot to be new old stock as clearing out Polaris Bwenfwake#6869: sounds like a good plan to me jojosensei#4198: Yep in UK
Bwenfwake#6869: I'm actually very tempted to buy one now Bwenfwake#6869: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/704633220397793300/unknown.png JustinXenyx#8854: single DVI @Bwenfwake JustinXenyx#8854: that is a big fuck no from me Bwenfwake#6869: yeh aha, it's a bit of a weird card tbh Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Best of both non-mining and mining cards: cards with an outdated connector LOL. Budget#8265: @Bwenfwake £5 more for non mining one Budget#8265: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/704637920329465886/unknown.png Budget#8265: £59.99 atm Budget#8265: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/704637952910950480/s-l1600.png Budget#8265: Infact with postage theyre about the same Miki2305#5707: Hey guys. What is better? An i7 950 or an athlon 2 x4 630 Budget#8265: The i7 Budget#8265: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/704638856472821760/unknown.png Budget#8265: Im also fairly sure this is a self explanatory question though so can you dont
Budget#8265: Thank Miki2305#5707: Thanks JoshTheTechie#2808: So I think I know what the issue is but I'm coming here to have it confirmed. When my GPU fan goes or is set below 40% fan speed it makes a whining screeching noise and is seems to be vibrating the fan as well. does this mean the bearings in the fan are on the way out? JoshTheTechie#2808: at 40% fan speed or higher it seems to be fine Miki2305#5707: Yep, the brearings are going bad. Miki2305#5707: Same thing happend to my psu JoshTheTechie#2808: yeah at the moment its not seriously loud but I can here it JoshTheTechie#2808: plus its getting louder Miki2305#5707: I suggest you to get replacement fans if they are selling them for your gpu Miki2305#5707: Or you can get a whole new cooling assembly JoshTheTechie#2808: yeah mine is a evga gtx 1060 SC 6gb single fan (that's probably why its going) Miki2305#5707: Oh god a blower style gpu its toasty then huh? JoshTheTechie#2808: yeah that's why I had to set a custom fan profile and put new thermal paste on the card as it was overheating in most new games Miki2305#5707: If you can find a part number for that fan it shouldn't bbe hard to find it JoshTheTechie#2808: this is my card https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/704674455057858630/382a57eb-c844-4b5c-a772-a4d8060eb104.png
JoshTheTechie#2808: yeah I'll try and have a search online and see if they are sold and if its worth doing Miki2305#5707: If you cant find them you may find a dead gpu your style for cheap and maybe salvage the fans off it JoshTheTechie#2808: yeah exactly that's what I was thinking of doing JoshTheTechie#2808: I only brought the card in October but it was off eBay after all Miki2305#5707: Was a mining gpu? JoshTheTechie#2808: not sure. not that I know for sure JoshTheTechie#2808: all the ebay description said was it had been used for gaming for around a year but not used too much JoshTheTechie#2808: but thats what they all say 😅 Miki2305#5707: well good luck finding fans Miki2305#5707: Imma need to go JoshTheTechie#2808: okay thanks for your help JoshTheTechie#2808: if not I might just get an early gpu upgrade to be honest thatubuntuguy#5914: Never seen a 1060 like that before thatubuntuguy#5914: Interesting BigPierogi#3368: i have one like that
BigPierogi#3368: but its a 1060 3gb JoshTheTechie#2808: yeah it just seems to be very hot even for one of these cards and it has new thermal paste and a good fan curve JoshTheTechie#2808: i think it was probably a mining card Budget#8265: Check BIOS with GPU-Z Budget#8265: See if its a custom BIOS JoshTheTechie#2808: just checked and seems to be the correct bios. its 86.06.39.00.62 JoshTheTechie#2808: its making the noise at 40% now. so its slowly getting worse JoshTheTechie#2808: something isn't right with this card as the past few days now the clocks will stick at the base clock and not ramp down. when I reinstall the drivers then the card ramps down and works normally for a few days and then the same thing happens leading me to reinstall the drivers Budget#8265: This screams modded BIOS Charlie Foxtrot#9831: I checked the BIOS number and it was a legit EVGA one. Charlie Foxtrot#9831: https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/187478/evga-gtx1060-6144-161109-2 Charlie Foxtrot#9831: But modded BIOS retains that number so... wiryfuture🦀#1706: How would I go about installing f@h on ubuntu with cli so I can join the team wiryfuture🦀#1706: I've installed the client .deb but I don't know how to configure it so that I can access it over my browser from another machine JoshTheTechie#2808: yeah I might see if i can find a way to check if the bios has been modded
tdp2612#3835: @TheGeekster do you know much about it with linux? TheGeekster#8508: eh i dabble and fiddle around with it TheGeekster#8508: best bet is to look it up online, it's not a linux thing, it's an app specific thing, there's probably a config file somewhere thatubuntuguy#5914: it can't be too different from windows ig thatubuntuguy#5914: advanced control > remote access thatubuntuguy#5914: they're all in there Muse#0557: Soulous the supernova which I believe is a G2 Muse#0557: Is a completely fine power supply for your use case Jam#0384: yes Jam#0384: you should pick something before prices shift again Jam#0384: and right now is the time they will Jam#0384: prices are all over the place for PSUs the last year and especially now Muse#0557: Remember when it's was 120 for a 750w gold Muse#0557: Smh Jam#0384: missing that
Jam#0384: now its like 200 Muse#0557: In the UK the only thing that has gone up madly in price is consoles Jam#0384: im so sad i put off buying PSU Muse#0557: Most pc parts are only up 20 or so Jam#0384: Because I really need Jam#0384: I share a dodgy Thermaltake between like 6 pcs Muse#0557: Oh Muse#0557: Fire hazard Muse#0557: Have a extinguisher ready Jam#0384: Well it's not so bad for most of them since theyre retro Jam#0384: and its 650w Jam#0384: so it doesnt stress Jam#0384: but the 2600K rig and 4770K Muse#0557: If you're overclocking Muse#0557: With a what did you say you have
Muse#0557: Gpu wise Jam#0384: I ran the 5GHz rig on it for months Muse#0557: You're pushing 650 Jam#0384: with a 280X Muse#0557: Oh Muse#0557: Yeh Jam#0384: Haha Muse#0557: Upgrade time Jam#0384: Yes Muse#0557: Maybe check amazon warehouse etc... They probably have some rmx for close to retail Jam#0384: I want a proper psu that i can use for my SLI systems. Something atleast 850W Jam#0384: and crossfire Jam#0384: I just dont crossfire as much because AMD really ruined ATI until recently with some decent launches, and ofc with the exception of GCN Jam#0384: plus multi GPU is dead but like Muse#0557: HD 7970 xfire is bae
Jam#0384: Im not doing the things i do for logical reasons Jam#0384: im just having fun Muse#0557: I don't remember the model names Jam#0384: 7970 GHz Jam#0384: sex Muse#0557: But you should be able to get a nice refurb corsair 80+ plat for close to retail Muse#0557: Also for some reason there is a 6gb 7970 ghz Jam#0384: seems legit https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/704808482934751332/unknown.png Jam#0384: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/704808630217867304/51ktVuXMoTL.png Jam#0384: bruh Muse#0557: That costs 25 bucks in China I bet Muse#0557: Build outta spare bolts Jam#0384: i was kidding Jam#0384: about it being solid Deleted User#0000: Is there anyone in here that knows a lot about PSU?
Muse#0557: Yeh ik you're kidding Yamas8604#5285: depends whats up Muse#0557: He is wondering if he can get a better PSU than a EVGA G2 for the same price Yamas8604#5285: hmm no Deleted User#0000: ? Yamas8604#5285: go used Deleted User#0000: When did I say I was getting a G2? jay1185#0112: soulous what are the specs of the system you're wanting to use said power supply on? Muse#0557: You didnt Muse#0557: But that's the main option Muse#0557: So everything else considered should be as good if not better right Deleted User#0000: My main plan is that I'm looking for a PSU that is decent with 550 or 650 watts for a few years Muse#0557: The supernova you brought forward Muse#0557: Is a g2 Deleted User#0000: :/ https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/704811893134590072/2.PNG
BigPierogi#3368: cx 650 BigPierogi#3368: not green Muse#0557: G5? Deleted User#0000: I was going to go for CX550 but they jacked the damn prices Muse#0557: Wut Deleted User#0000: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/704812002056601620/hell.PNG Yamas8604#5285: all evga psus that i have bough stopped working BigPierogi#3368: did you check newegg Deleted User#0000: Yes Deleted User#0000: its even worse Muse#0557: Destroyer a 80+ Bronze cheap corsair Muse#0557: Is not a good recommendation Muse#0557: US prices are really bad rn Deleted User#0000: Budget said it was good jay1185#0112: in my opinion, along with quality, you want to find one with the best +12V Amerpage rating. My 600W Smart PSUs have 42A on the +12V rail. The 700W has a 54A rail
Yamas8604#5285: i didnt recomend the cx 650 Deleted User#0000: and my brother has one he's using a i5 4th gen with a gtx 980 perfectly fine Muse#0557: My bad BigPierogi#3368: ive been using the cx 650 for like 2-3 years Yamas8604#5285: though tbh thats the psu i have BigPierogi#3368: i havent had issues Muse#0557: My brain isn't understanding... You're hazy about a Evga 80+ Gold but fine with a low end corsair bronze BigPierogi#3368: are you saying cx sucks Muse#0557: No just saying that it's not as good Yamas8604#5285: cx is fine BigPierogi#3368: well duh its not as good Muse#0557: Yeh ik Muse#0557: But soulous was unsure about an 80+ Gold with equally great reviews Yamas8604#5285: well my psu is modular so its god tier Muse#0557: But jumping at the corsair unit
BigPierogi#3368: evga is fine sort of BigPierogi#3368: their white labels are bad BigPierogi#3368: white 80+ Deleted User#0000: On reviews, it was mediocre jay1185#0112: i'd still like to know what system the PSU is going to power, lol. Deleted User#0000: Though I'm still reading it Muse#0557: I thought it was a G2 Muse#0557: Not a G5 Deleted User#0000: Its a G5 Muse#0557: Haven't even seen a G4 Deleted User#0000: Well, I'm planning on overclocking with the PSU Muse#0557: So dont get how they are on G5 Deleted User#0000: The RAM, CPU, and GPU Muse#0557: Have you checked Evga B stock Deleted User#0000: Like I said before, I will not buy a used or refurbed PSU unit
Deleted User#0000: That's the only thing I will never buy used BigPierogi#3368: will you buy a used hdd Deleted User#0000: Yes Muse#0557: ... Muse#0557: What Yamas8604#5285: oof no Muse#0557: Refurbished doesn't even have to mean it broke Yamas8604#5285: never buy a used hdd Muse#0557: Most times it means it was returned Deleted User#0000: I'm using a used HDD and its still kicking Muse#0557: I've bought 10 year old delta psus Yamas8604#5285: its one thing if its free Muse#0557: And they have outlived brand new hdds BigPierogi#3368: delta is #1 Deleted User#0000: Look, I just don't want any risks in the power department
BigPierogi#3368: indestructible Muse#0557: It's not a risk man Yamas8604#5285: if you buy a good used unit you will be fine Muse#0557: If its refurbished Muse#0557: It's met their standards Deleted User#0000: Alright, well I'll go with the G5 EVGA supernova Deleted User#0000: Most PSU's have 3 years or longer for warranty? BigPierogi#3368: check whatever site your on BigPierogi#3368: it will say BigPierogi#3368: or evga website Deleted User#0000: Hm, alright Muse#0557: Evga tend to have 3 years Muse#0557: Some even 5 years Deleted User#0000: Alright, how do you even return a product, I've never done one so it would be good to know Muse#0557: Call up the support
BigPierogi#3368: call or email BigPierogi#3368: say their product is shit Muse#0557: They'll supply you with a shipping label if you're within the restrictions Deleted User#0000: Do you know the restrictions? Muse#0557: By return you mean unhappy with right? Muse#0557: Or broken Deleted User#0000: Wait, if I overclock and the PSU dies because of it, does that mean its out of warranty? Muse#0557: Probably not Muse#0557: Check the website Muse#0557: It's your purchase Muse#0557: And you going through it will take the same amount of time as me Muse#0557: So... Deleted User#0000: Its amazon's return process Deleted User#0000: Unless I buy directly from EVGA Deleted User#0000: Oh fuk that
Muse#0557: Evga have it for 110 Deleted User#0000: 30 days of warranty? Muse#0557: They have a bunch of 650w Muse#0557: On their website Muse#0557: It has a 10 year warranty Muse#0557: Wow Deleted User#0000: 10 years? Muse#0557: Go to their website Muse#0557: And filter by 650w Muse#0557: Yeh Muse#0557: 10 Deleted User#0000: Damn Deleted User#0000: Are you surprised? Muse#0557: Evga have the best warranty in the business Muse#0557: I thought it was 5
Muse#0557: Which is already amazing BigPierogi#3368: doesnt seasonic also have 10 year Muse#0557: Think that's only for plats and titanium BigPierogi#3368: top of the line Deleted User#0000: Alright, I did earn 30$ for mowing but I don't have it so I have 95$ right now Deleted User#0000: So I'm going to have to work some more to get it Muse#0557: They have a CQ Muse#0557: I'm going to buy straight from their site more often Deleted User#0000: What's a CQ? Muse#0557: Model name Muse#0557: I believe its a semi modular g2 Deleted User#0000: But fuk Deleted User#0000: 10 years of warranty Deleted User#0000: Are they that bold? Muse#0557: GQ is 90 bucks with 5 years
Muse#0557: They clearly don't lose any money from offering it Muse#0557: Otherwise they wouldn't do it Deleted User#0000: So it seems that their psu is good Deleted User#0000: or pretty good Muse#0557: Yeh they are good Deleted User#0000: So, the full price is 129.99$ Deleted User#0000: 109$ with a 20$ rebate Muse#0557: Idk how rebates work tbh Deleted User#0000: But really its a gimmick Deleted User#0000: I have to buy one of EVGA's products to get it Muse#0557: Wdym Deleted User#0000: I have to buy something from them to be qualified for that 20$ rebate Deleted User#0000: And plus its mailed Deleted User#0000: So I won't be able to get it immediately Muse#0557: Does the psu not count towards the rebate
Muse#0557: Or is it already bought Deleted User#0000: I'm not sure Muse#0557: I don't think we have rebates here Muse#0557: I'd look into it Muse#0557: Good luck Muse#0557: Got a bad essay to write Deleted User#0000: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/704816520278179942/wut.PNG Muse#0557: ? Deleted User#0000: It has a cool led on the back Muse#0557: Does it show load Deleted User#0000: I'm checking Deleted User#0000: It doesn't say Deleted User#0000: Well, I know what I'm getting first, thanks for answering my questions even though I was quite stubborn about PSU choices Muse#0557: No problem boog#9487: Should I upgrade to ryzen? I would probably get a r5 3600 and 16gb ram. Only real reason I have is that my motherboard has only one case fan header and had a corrosion issue where I have to clean the ram slots every now and then.
Jam#0384: from what Xbox 360 1953#2640: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/701114408998404116/704820211756302396/20200428_182249.jpg BigPierogi#3368: why Xbox 360 1953#2640: my friend is going to try to put a top pcie slot on Xbox 360 1953#2640: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/704824072516665454/unknown.png Xbox 360 1953#2640: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/704824109191659530/EWTpk2RWAAAtwOc.png BigPierogi#3368: what the fcuk BigPierogi#3368: what happened Xbox 360 1953#2640: dunno FuckinReece#0021: anybody want to buy a pk5 pro with a core 2 quad Bwenfwake#6869: Thoughts? Reckon I'm just gonna buy both https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/704830314748313770/unknown.png Jam#0384: Kinda expensive but fast Bwenfwake#6869: I'm willing to do so tbh.... Bwenfwake#6869: Just for faster mem atm Bwenfwake#6869: I really wanna keep up with my bro's laptop lmao
Jam#0384: Do you have cooler clearance for these Jam#0384: They look tall Bwenfwake#6869: oh yeh easily Bwenfwake#6869: I only have a AIO for CPU so all is gud Jam#0384: Oh aight Bwenfwake#6869: TALL DIMM Bwenfwake#6869: problem is that they don't really fit into theme or rig Bwenfwake#6869: but hey Bwenfwake#6869: best I can find atm wiryfuture🦀#1706: hydro-dip ram :Hahahahaha: Jam#0384: What theme Bwenfwake#6869: I'm going more black and red (unintentionally) but I am sure I can figure something out Bwenfwake#6869: going for a total of 32GB here we come Bwenfwake#6869: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/704832041178497114/unknown.png Bwenfwake#6869: Christ I hope it's alright
Bwenfwake#6869: lol between 24 and 42 days Bwenfwake#6869: is that worth it.... Bwenfwake#6869: wait a sec... customs... What do... tdp2612#3835: nice postcode *gloucester* ish boi tdp2612#3835: :frobotmoment: tdp2612#3835: do you really need that much ram though Bwenfwake#6869: lmfao tdp2612#3835: or are you buying for the sake of it Bwenfwake#6869: Yes and No Bwenfwake#6869: I want the speed of it. But I said to myself that it wouldn't be worth the speed/cost really unless I doubled my mem Bwenfwake#6869: so I'm really on the fence tdp2612#3835: i mean its a lot of money for ddr3 Bwenfwake#6869: True tdp2612#3835: surely youd be better off selling what you have and moving to something new Bwenfwake#6869: maybe?.... But then I can't have as much overclocking fun
tdp2612#3835: like if youre putting that much money into an old system just to get the small gains Bwenfwake#6869: yeah perhaps you're right tbf tdp2612#3835: for that you could buy yourself a 2600 or something tdp2612#3835: or an 8500 if youre a bit weird Bwenfwake#6869: yeh but only a 2600 aha... I mean I have 8c16t already tdp2612#3835: dual xeon or something? Bwenfwake#6869: single Xeon Bwenfwake#6869: E5 1680 V2 Bwenfwake#6869: 4.4GHz tdp2612#3835: would it even know how to deal with that speed of ram though Bwenfwake#6869: 16GB 1333MHz OC'd to 1866MHz Bwenfwake#6869: plus a GTX 1080 Bwenfwake#6869: yeh, it can manage 3200MHz if it wanted tdp2612#3835: eh maybe it is worth sticking with what you have then Bwenfwake#6869: I'm just really on the fence about it
Bwenfwake#6869: ya see today my bro had his new laptop arrive... in it is a Ryzen 7 4800HS or summin Bwenfwake#6869: 8c16t and does 4000cb score in R20 Bwenfwake#6869: That's mad for a mobile chip tdp2612#3835: i wish i could get that :Frobot: Bwenfwake#6869: and now I'm jealous of that with only my measly 3152cb R20 score lmao tdp2612#3835: heres me getting 900 :Frobot: tdp2612#3835: oh its worse than that tdp2612#3835: 900 must have been r15 Bwenfwake#6869: I mean the benefit is that I've deffo spent less on my system overall in comparison and I've been meaning to upgrade RAM for a while but I have absolutely no idea what to do now aha tdp2612#3835: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/704835212533694484/unknown.png Bwenfwake#6869: R20 will be a better score than R15 tho tdp2612#3835: Ill run it again then, maybe its changed the result somehow Bwenfwake#6869: lmao tdp2612#3835: I remember a 900 and something clearly Bwenfwake#6869: I think I'll leave the RAM in my basket and sleep on it. I get paid soon anyway so we'll see
Bwenfwake#6869: just that 2400MHz in quad channel would be ace. Easy OC to maybe 2800MHz and then we're laughin with an extra OC of CPU up to maybe 4.6GHz tdp2612#3835: Is 4.4 to 4.6 really gonna make much difference in games though tdp2612#3835: Or will it just boost benchmark numbers up a bit Bwenfwake#6869: Nah not really in games but it sure does help with image and video editing Bwenfwake#6869: blender rendering also Bwenfwake#6869: maybe I'll see what Brian from Tech Yes City uses in his rig Bwenfwake#6869: since ik he is also on X79 Bwenfwake#6869: at least since I last watched his vids anyway tdp2612#3835: i managed to get 683 this round tdp2612#3835: i guess i turned discord off last time Muse#0557: so is R20 better optimised Budget#8265: Use 3D Mark Physics test 😠 Muse#0557: 3D mark 01 special edition? Muse#0557: Gotcha Xbox 360 1953#2640: does anyone have the image of the sff dell with the side panel that was cut to fit full height gpu?
Muse#0557: wdym tdp2612#3835: i know what you mean tdp2612#3835: im looking tdp2612#3835: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/704863093850636390/gbUcUHg.png tdp2612#3835: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/704863132429844540/317P8.png tdp2612#3835: and finally the one you wanted i expect tdp2612#3835: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/704863158980051025/b2wcpnsste921.png Muse#0557: why wouldnt you just turn the gpu sideways Muse#0557: and add a point to screw into tdp2612#3835: ***what*** tdp2612#3835: oh you mean the first one Muse#0557: yeh tdp2612#3835: i guess this gives portabilty, and its easy to swap Muse#0557: also Muse#0557: the second one is an sff card
Muse#0557: just get an adapter Muse#0557: wait Muse#0557: is it Muse#0557: i cant tell Muse#0557: its look like tdp2612#3835: yeah its a sff card tdp2612#3835: but its an ultra thin case tdp2612#3835: so it still doesnt bit Muse#0557: yeh the hdmi is sticking through tdp2612#3835: wait nvm tdp2612#3835: apparently that hdmi is technically the right side of the screw in bit Xbox 360 1953#2640: Thank you tdp2612#3835: https://superuser.com/questions/454879/my-low-profile-video-card-does-not-fit-in-my-mini-tower-what-can-i-do FuckinReece#0021: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/704900634666860604/unknown.png FuckinReece#0021: nvidia ram
Jam#0384: yes Jam#0384: cool Yannikau#9606: https://image.thermaltake.com/News/db/imgs/press/images/PR/20160719/en%20banner.jpg Nothing beats VR Ready PSUs tho Bwenfwake#6869: I'm boutta do it https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/705021414947684512/unknown.png Bwenfwake#6869: @tdp2612 Bwenfwake#6869: 8-8-8-24 @ 1.65v Bwenfwake#6869: 1600MHz kit Bwenfwake#6869: will be lit Lady Mipha#0611: :epicgamer: Bwenfwake#6869: Still 16GB total but I want the speed not capacity now lmao Bwenfwake#6869: they're both lovely sets tdp2612#3835: Nah that seems dumb tdp2612#3835: If theyre only a bit faster than what you have already Bwenfwake#6869: In all fairness, I keep getting black screens when playing games because of my RAM now sooo like.... Bwenfwake#6869: I feel like it's worth it
Bwenfwake#6869: seems fine when doing stuff but every now and agin my PC's displays will just cut out Bwenfwake#6869: It's really bugging me and I'm fed up with it SuSSudio#2688: I've got thoughts, with DDR5 around the corner, considering its frequency speed, will it reduce the need of bigger ram capacity? Bwenfwake#6869: nah probs not tbh, people still need butt loads of RAM when working on huge video projects Bwenfwake#6869: for gaming it might change tho but I doubt it SuSSudio#2688: Yeah like gaming, i forgot to specify SuSSudio#2688: Mmhm JustinXenyx#8854: that screams pretty expensive for shit ddr3 @Bwenfwake Bwenfwake#6869: I bought it for the timings and OC potential... Plus the fact that my current RAM is dying anyway lol JustinXenyx#8854: like i can get the same amount of memory in 2GB samsung sticks that all clock reliably to 2133Mhz for 15 bucks JustinXenyx#8854: and they are 1333Mhz base Bwenfwake#6869: welll... I mean you might be able to but I can't seem to find anything like that Bwenfwake#6869: both 1600MHz with 8-8-8-24 timings Bwenfwake#6869: I feel it's worth it JustinXenyx#8854: i mean you do you
JustinXenyx#8854: but for 2GB sticks that is way too expensive in my opinion JustinXenyx#8854: like, a 4x4 kit would technically be better in every way, especially overclocking JustinXenyx#8854: the more RAM sticks you have the worse your RAM oc gets Bwenfwake#6869: yeah that's fair, It's just that currently I can't find any other sets of sticks (4 + 4 dimms) that have the same timings and speed that I want Bwenfwake#6869: but it can only be better than what I've currently got tbf. Current stuff is 1333MHz with much worse timings and they're mismatched Bwenfwake#6869: x 8 Miljan#7510: Hey guys quick question, friend bought a new mobo (b450 gamingx) but his 550w PSU doesn't have an 8pin cpu (or 4+4) cable, can he use his PC untill he gets a new PSU or no? JustinXenyx#8854: the extra 4 pin is technically for power stability and heat stuffs @Miljan JustinXenyx#8854: AKA it will run fine with most CPUs Miljan#7510: So only one 4 pin will run? JustinXenyx#8854: nononono JustinXenyx#8854: There is no "one 4 pin runs and the other one doesn't" with that Miljan#7510: Oh, that's what I was asking Miljan#7510: How come his old fx4300 ran fine with only one 4pin? Budget#8265: Do you mean the motherboard has an 8Pin CPU Slot
Budget#8265: and the PSU doesnt Budget#8265: (very odd for any modern-ish psu not too) JustinXenyx#8854: i doubt it is modern-ish @Budget Budget#8265: Cause the motherboard and CPU will work with jist the 4pin from the PSU Miljan#7510: Yeah it isn't modern Budget#8265: Right Budget#8265: Well itll work Budget#8265: But what PSU is this cause im talking any reputable PSU from the last 15 years Yannikau#9606: You can run an 8 pin CPU connector with a 4 pin PSU connector You just shouldn´t for extended periods of time bcs the PSU is probably garbage Budget#8265: What he said essentially ^ Budget#8265: There are exceptions like FSP and Delta though Budget#8265: But yes you can just use the 4pin on the 8 pin CPU Slot Yannikau#9606: Also for high powered CPUs you shouldn´t do this But I´ll asumme this isn´t the case here
Miljan#7510: R5 2600x Yannikau#9606: Like a 2700X, 3900X, 3950X etc. Yannikau#9606: Yeah, should run fine. But he should get a new PSU asap Budget#8265: What PSU actually is it? Miljan#7510: No clue Budget#8265: Id ask for a photo Budget#8265: Cause last thing you want is him blowing up his system due to a shite PSU Miljan#7510: He says it's a "mission q 550" Yannikau#9606: That sounds awful Budget#8265: i have never heard of it Miljan#7510: Yup Budget#8265: Sold only in Russia apparnetly Budget#8265: Oh fuck Miljan#7510: It ran his fx4300 and a 1050ti Budget#8265: Its an ACE Rebrand
Budget#8265: That thing is a fire hazard Budget#8265: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/705058765921320980/unknown.png JustinXenyx#8854: let me guess, his 4300 + 1050ti rig was a prebuilt? @Miljan Budget#8265: Its an ACE PSU Miljan#7510: No Budget#8265: Fella what has this gotta power cause these things kill systems JustinXenyx#8854: where the hell did he find such a shit PSU JustinXenyx#8854: AND WHY THE FUCK DID HE BUY FX Budget#8265: THat was his old PC Miljan#7510: Yeah Budget#8265: FX had a buying point at one point Budget#8265: What are his new specs Budget#8265: Cause he is dangerously close to killing them with this PSU JustinXenyx#8854: I don't think his FX PC is old enough to be justifiably bought Miljan#7510: R5 2600x and his old 1050ti
JustinXenyx#8854: It has a 1050Ti and i doubt that was an upgrade Budget#8265: I wouldnt put that with that PSU though Budget#8265: Nah the FX4300 bottlenecked my old HD7770 Budget#8265: It will big a huge improvement JustinXenyx#8854: Budget that's not what i mean Budget#8265: Tell him to get a new PSU @Miljan Cause itll work but if that PSU blows itll kill his system most likely Yannikau#9606: U can use that PSU as firecracker on new years eve tho JustinXenyx#8854: I meant that his system was very likely built with the 1050Ti Budget#8265: Unless he upgraded Budget#8265: I had FX4300 and R9 285 Budget#8265: I suppose GTX1000 series is a bit much to pair with FX tho Budget#8265: So i getchu Miljan#7510: His original pc was an fx4300 with a hd6000 something, he bought a 1050ti and now bought the cpu mobo and all of that Budget#8265: Thought so Budget#8265: But yeah thats the best advice we can give.
1. The PSU will likely blow up at some point and take out the system. Its a Russian Rebrand of a PSU called ACE which is renown for killing systems 2. You can power an 8Pin Mobo with a 4Pin CPU Connector.... 3. DO NOT USE THAT PSU PLZ Budget#8265: Please buy a new one 😄 Budget#8265: Case closed on this one lads Yannikau#9606: There are garbage SIs that build weird configs like that tho JustinXenyx#8854: ^which is what i was assuming JustinXenyx#8854: 4300 + 1050Ti usually is a cheapo or scam prebuilt combo Budget#8265: That PSU is sold for £17 NEW... Budget#8265: ooft Miljan#7510: Alright, thanks for the help Budget#8265: np
Bwenfwake#6869: ay lads.... Reckon I can record PC stuff using a CCTV capture card? Bwenfwake#6869: Seller offered this for £30 Bwenfwake#6869: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/705097995183718410/unknown.png JustinXenyx#8854: that looks proprietary as fuck JustinXenyx#8854: Legit wouldn't bother JustinXenyx#8854: why you want a capture card anyway Bwenfwake#6869: RIP, PCI-E tho with VGA inputs.... You are prolly correct tbf Bwenfwake#6869: I wanna record switch gameplay Bwenfwake#6869: or phone gameplay etc JustinXenyx#8854: Get an elgato camlink then Bwenfwake#6869: lemme google Bwenfwake#6869: tbf, quite expensive. Nah was just curious because it was so cheap. Cheers tho JustinXenyx#8854: well HDMI capturing hardware is rather cheap for what it is tbh Bwenfwake#6869: true Caleb - XPuser#7247: Would anybody know where I could find Windows 98 drivers for my VIA VT6103?
Caleb - XPuser#7247: I've been googling for hours and all the drivers I've found don't work or are corrupted. Caleb - XPuser#7247: Hello? tdp2612#3835: > If it's some obscure PC from like the mid nineties chances are you're fucked @JustinXenyx tdp2612#3835: id suggest just using xp since thats whats available FuckinReece#0021: What do you guys think of my new build FuckinReece#0021: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/705184117565947984/video0.mp4 Caleb - XPuser#7247: Does anybody know of a good PSU for powering an Athlon XP? I'm currently using a PSU that powered my NEC Ready 9883 and it works fine, but the PSU is over 20 years old now and I'd like to upgrade the GPU and right now it can't supply enough power for a GPU upgrade. Budget#8265: £7 FSP Group Budget#8265: Will power most older Retro Cards Caleb - XPuser#7247: Thanks, it'll be able to handle the Athlon XP, right? Deleted User#0000: I was curious to know if the evga supernova series are as good or better than the Corsair cx series Budget#8265: Read JohnnyGuru Budget#8265: smh Deleted User#0000: I searched JohnnyGuro and he does not have a single supernova g5 review
Budget#8265: I mean to learn a bit more about Johnny Gurus work Budget#8265: and how PSUs work Deleted User#0000: Ah FuckinReece#0021: How good would you guys say a core 2 quad is for browsing the internet net and general use tdp2612#3835: Eh not great tdp2612#3835: You can somewhat get away with it, it'll be a bit slow on bigger sites like youtube tdp2612#3835: However really heavy sites are completely off limits, like mine can barely manage google drive tdp2612#3835: If you arent trying to do a modernish retro system with XP or win7, dont bother with c2qs anymore tdp2612#3835: Spend the bit more, get 1155 Charlie Foxtrot#9831: @tdp2612 And that's on an SSD? SuSSudio#2688: > How good would you guys say a core 2 quad is for browsing the internet net and general use I use C2Q Q9450. Browsing in general is fine, no major issues. In terms of video playback, it still keeps up with 1080p videos. System is definitely snappy when not much running in the background, however performance will start getting impacted when you have many programs running in the background.
En/decompressing/en/transcoding is probably not what'd you expect in a very old cpu like C2Q. While it does 'quick' enough in smaller files, it struggles with bigger files. could take up several mins or even hours to finish up. You wouldn't want to render with this cpu either, same reason as above. Unless if you get the faster variants like Q9650 or even Xeon X5470. Even those will still take longer times than its successors. FuckinReece#0021: Thanks FuckinReece#0021: Really just got a p5k mobo for free and want to see how it will do if I do my school shit on it SuSSudio#2688: If you're only doing some office tasks, it shouldn't be a problem. Atleast put 2x2GB RAM in it, making a total of 4GB. FuckinReece#0021: Thanks that really helps FuckinReece#0021: how good is a 9500 gt Jam#0384: It will display video and watch videos at maybe 720p Jam#0384: but not very good Jam#0384: for anything new SuSSudio#2688: 9500GT is a bit weak for modern usage. if you don't plan on gaming i'd suggest atleast 1GB G/DDR3 GT430/530. If you can find an R7 240/250 for a good price (under 40$), get either of those.
Muse#0557: Wouldn't a 7770 be a much better option for that price bracket SLJ#9246: is it worth installing windows 7 onto my old laptop to get better performance in games like gta 5? fairly sure that on windows 10 the game has a texture pop in problem SLJ#9246: (it isn't exactly the best laptop anyway, but I saw a video with near identical specs, a worse cpu even, running the game at around 30fps with no pop in problems) JustinXenyx#8854: Specs? @SLJ JustinXenyx#8854: And how old is the video that you saw? (also, keep in mind that some of those internet benches aren't exactly trustworthy) SLJ#9246: AMD A6-3430MX with integrated Radeon 6520g. I doubled the RAM to 8GB SLJ#9246: I'll check JustinXenyx#8854: Oh yeah you're bound to have texture pop-in issues with GTA V JustinXenyx#8854: The issue is with the processor and it's architecture that makes it behave similarly to a dual core CPU in GTA V SLJ#9246: hmm, any way to get around the pop-in? overclock, OS switch etc? SLJ#9246: oh yeah the video is old, 2015 JustinXenyx#8854: As harsh as it sounds, new computer JustinXenyx#8854: OS Switch or overclocking aren't going to help if it's an issue with the CPU itself JustinXenyx#8854: See, with how the architecture of your processor is built it technically is not a quad core
JustinXenyx#8854: It's more like a dual core with hyperthreading to simplify it JustinXenyx#8854: And it's not a very good dual core with hyperthreading. SLJ#9246: Oh man, I see JustinXenyx#8854: And GTA V is notorious for annihilating lower end dual cores and lower end hyperthreaded dual cores, especially with the newer updates SLJ#9246: 😬 JustinXenyx#8854: Like in 2015 you might have gotten the game to run semi-decently (even then you had some issues related to texture pop in etc but not as harsh) but in 2020 you pretty much have no chance anymore SLJ#9246: sure love when Rockstar doesn't focus on optimization JustinXenyx#8854: Rockstar focused on Optimization pretty well i'd say. It's just that even back then the dual cores barely had a chance of running it well, the updates just made it fall off the cliff further CaptainFlanger#2563: They're just making the game bigger and bigger and slowly annihilating older or lower end hardware. SLJ#9246: seems like it CaptainFlanger#2563: It's like CSGO. CaptainFlanger#2563: Back then in 2012, it ran on a potato. SLJ#9246: and now it barely runs on a potato JustinXenyx#8854: > They're just making the game bigger and bigger and slowly annihilating older or lower end hardware. I doubt that to be quite fair. Hardware that was capable of running GTA V well in 2015 will still run it perfectly well in 2020
JustinXenyx#8854: It's just the hardware that was barely capable of running it in 2015 that got smashed pretty badly CaptainFlanger#2563: It reaaaally depends on what hardware. CaptainFlanger#2563: But yeah, hardware that barely capable of running during release launch will suffer. SLJ#9246: *I'm still tempted to try the game on Windows 7 just for shits and giggles as I like messing with older PCs like this* CaptainFlanger#2563: *safe to say that my Ivy Bridge processor still runs GTA fine today.* SLJ#9246: my main rig runs the game just fine, but the online casino brings it down to 30fps CaptainFlanger#2563: Yo, I like messing around with old hardware too. SLJ#9246: I have pretty much the exact same cpu and gpu as you SLJ#9246: i7 3770k with a 3gig 1060 CaptainFlanger#2563: Oh, really? What a coincidence. SLJ#9246: finished HL:A on this set up just fine hehe JustinXenyx#8854: > my main rig runs the game just fine, but the online casino brings it down to 30fps You really don't want to test with online tbh, it really struggles above 16 players because Rockstar were too cheap to host actual servers for GTA V and made the game Peer2Peer SLJ#9246: Yeah that's ass JustinXenyx#8854: Like, i love GTA Online, but it really fucks with performance testing and can't be replicated accurately
JustinXenyx#8854: Also: How did HL:A run on the 3GB 1060? Any major issues with that? @SLJ CaptainFlanger#2563: GTA online is ridiculous. Especially the Diamond Casino. JustinXenyx#8854: how much RAM do you have? Cause that might have helped the 3GB 1060 aswell by offloading VRAM into regular system RAM SLJ#9246: 16gb of ram dual channel CaptainFlanger#2563: Damn... I only have 8. SLJ#9246: it runs pretty okay, I didn't get sick while playing it SLJ#9246: low fidelity settings are your best bet but I can run it fairly well on high fidelity SLJ#9246: depending on the situation it drops frames CaptainFlanger#2563: I don't mind frame rate on newer titles. SLJ#9246: but I didn't mind whatsoever CaptainFlanger#2563: *(especially The Outer Worlds)* JustinXenyx#8854: > I don't mind frame rate on newer titles. You really want to mind framerate on VR depending on how you are with motion sickness and VR (and to some extent simulator) sickness CaptainFlanger#2563: Oh. CaptainFlanger#2563: I don't have VR. :crome:
JustinXenyx#8854: lol, but still SLJ#9246: I'm experienced with VR and I didn't get sick playing it on slightly lower framerates JustinXenyx#8854: VR can fuck you up pretty badly with some harsh frame drops if you aren't used to VR CaptainFlanger#2563: But for VR, high frame rate is a must. SLJ#9246: you can tweak the settings through a config file if you really want that extra fps JustinXenyx#8854: Not even really high frame rates, but stable frame rates CaptainFlanger#2563: Yeah... SLJ#9246: I haven't checked how much FPS I get, but I could happily play it for hours on end SLJ#9246: still, I'm looking to invest in better hardware eventually CaptainFlanger#2563: Same. I'm not going to stay with this old 1155 for too long. CaptainFlanger#2563: I'm starting to drop frames on OBS. CaptainFlanger#2563: Again. SLJ#9246: ¯\\_(ツ)\_/¯ SLJ#9246: I'll give the windows 7 idea a shot anyway, feeling a bit nostalgic for it lol CaptainFlanger#2563: It ran better on older hardware, maybe.
SLJ#9246: sheer willpower and a lucky chance can do wonders for gaming on older less powerful hardware CaptainFlanger#2563: Yeah... Budget#8265: GTA Online shoulda stayed 16 players Budget#8265: Dont @ me Budget#8265: 😎 Lady Mipha#0611: :epicgamer: Bwenfwake#6869: decent offer? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/705418873314213959/unknown.png Bwenfwake#6869: /decent PSU or nah? Currency Converter Bot#4703: Command not recognized... TheGeekster#8508: The fuck are you running that needs 1100w? also it's aerocool, like, icky dicky personally, look at the warranty and that's how long it'll last Alcyone#2233: that seems expensive for an off brand Alcyone#2233: a quality 750w would probably be much better Bwenfwake#6869: fair, was just curious because it's the only PSU with a 'Today only' deal Bwenfwake#6869: on Scans website that is MythologicalZ#3752: check jonny guru or whatever, I think he did the strike x ages ago
JustinXenyx#8854: pretty sure that is trash Bwenfwake#6869: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/705419732009877514/unknown.png Bwenfwake#6869: yeh I mean I thought it might be bad but still Bwenfwake#6869: considering I paid the same price for my 750W on offer MythologicalZ#3752: iirc the only aerocool units were touching are the project series Bwenfwake#6869: aha fair MythologicalZ#3752: and they're plat rated so like, that goes without saying Bwenfwake#6869: This time in lockdown i'm legit just tryna get opinions and best answers about products tbf Bwenfwake#6869: I've learnt a bit Bwenfwake#6869: put it that way MythologicalZ#3752: https://www.jonnyguru.com/blog/2017/10/09/aerocool-project-7-850w-power-supply/7/ Bwenfwake#6869: neet, cheers lad jojosensei#4198: Would it be worth to bother for a refurb elitedesk sff (I know it's bad) I5 4570 vpro (?) 8go ram and 500hdd w10 pro for 40 bucks ? JustinXenyx#8854: For 40 dollars definitely not bad but keep in mind that getting an upgrade to a i7 or so isn't worth it because people keep selling them for way too much @jojosensei jojosensei#4198: I'm not sure I understood what is your advice ^^
jojosensei#4198: By the way do you know what is Vpro CPU ? JustinXenyx#8854: vPro isn't a CPU itself JustinXenyx#8854: vPro is some intel branding for something that wikipedia probably explains better than i could JustinXenyx#8854: My advice in simple words: The Elitedesk is pretty decently priced but upgrading it to a better processor like a haswell i7 is going to be difficult or pointless because the haswell i7 processors are sold for way more money than they are actually worth Alcyone#2233: at 40 bucks for the whole thing it may be worth popping in a 1650 and ssd leaving the rest alone jojosensei#4198: yep won't upgrade it I think Alcyone#2233: if you plan on upgrading a system beyond that I wouldnt start with an oem jojosensei#4198: Yes It's just for having something to play better than my shitty laptop JustinXenyx#8854: If you buy that HP computer the next thing you should buy for it is an SSD if you do not already have one that you can put inside the HP and after that a graphics card upgrade like a 1650 JustinXenyx#8854: Given that it is a SFF computer you're quite limited with graphics card upgrades aswell, but a 1650 probably suits you plenty with a 4th generation i5 Alcyone#2233: might be bios issues with running a brand new gpu, but haswell isnt that old jojosensei#4198: Could go with an older gpu if needed JustinXenyx#8854: Yeah but you have to keep in mind that you're probably limited to low profile graphics cards JustinXenyx#8854: so getting older ones might be a little more expensive than a normal card jojosensei#4198: Yep watching for 1050 or 950 750
Alcyone#2233: might need a better psu for that which is probably some weird oem design or a flex atx in a slim tower jojosensei#4198: It says 320 w JustinXenyx#8854: 320W is more than plenty for a 4th gen i5 and a low profile GPU Alcyone#2233: oh I meant an old gpu JustinXenyx#8854: I would recommend skipping the low profile 950, since not a lot of people have bought it and it is worse than a normal 950 since the low profile one is being power limited compared to the regular 950 @jojosensei JustinXenyx#8854: And given that not a lot of people own a SFF 950 the chances of you finding one (and finding one cheap for that matter) is going to be difficult as fuck Alcyone#2233: 1050 ti would be the min I'd want for a gaming pc, mabbe a rx 560 i dunno how they perform JustinXenyx#8854: Given he is upgrading from a lower spec laptop even a 750 is going to be a massive jump jojosensei#4198: Found people selling 750/ ti for around 20. jojosensei#4198: It might be enought for what I play jojosensei#4198: > oh I meant an old gpu @Alcyone What did you mean ? JustinXenyx#8854: He was thinking of other older gpus that need external power JustinXenyx#8854: But they wouldn't fit inside of an SFF pc anyway Alcyone#2233: hold my riser cable and watch this
Alcyone#2233: ive put full size cards in slim tower and itx by laying them on their side and zipties for mounting Alcyone#2233: well full height, usually still requires a smallish card that isnt too thicc jojosensei#4198: ok thanks, so just an SSD and a 750 1050. Will try to get this PC. jojosensei#4198: Didn't get that one but got a dell sff 7010 for the same price with i5 3470, 6go ram, 1to hdd and amd radeon hd 7000 Jam#0384: Replace the HD 7000 Jam#0384: SFF is iffy. You now have to spend more money on your graphics card jojosensei#4198: Will try get a low profile 750 JoshTheTechie#2808: Does anyone know if it is worth upgrading a hp pavilion dv7-1135ea? I currently use it for coursework and wanted it to be a bit faster and handle some of the programs I use for more course a bit better MythologicalZ#3752: apart from shoving an ssd into it I dont see many options JoshTheTechie#2808: yeah it currently has an ssd but was wondering if its worth upgrading ram or even the processor? wiryfuture🦀#1706: @"Cobs" is it possible for me to take out the front panel cover thing so that I can install a larger hard drive backplane? (found one here https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dell-8x-2-5-SAS-Hard-Drive-Backplane-Board-Poweredge-R620-0KVGG1-KVGG1/153907986671?hash=item23d5a180ef:g:HtkAAOSw6aJeorpt) Deleted User#0000: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CGTRhg Deleted User#0000: Opinions on this build? JustinXenyx#8854: A400 is pretty trash, why you want to go with Intel is beyond me, 5400RPM JustinXenyx#8854: otherwise it's fine-ish
JustinXenyx#8854: PSU might be a little weird but i dunno about that Deleted User#0000: I know. Im using an external hdd Deleted User#0000: That 5400rpm just comes with it JustinXenyx#8854: Oh alright, i was assuming you were building from scratch Deleted User#0000: Nah. Ill do it again in the future thougg JustinXenyx#8854: A400 is defo something i would avoid though JustinXenyx#8854: The controller inside of it is known for failing rather quickly Deleted User#0000: Imma switch out the fans on the 212 and put some be quiet silent wings on there Deleted User#0000: Imma use the a400 just for os. Think thatll be ok. Other than that imma get another 750 gigs crucial ssd JustinXenyx#8854: Nah literally avoid it like the plague JustinXenyx#8854: Just skip it entirely JustinXenyx#8854: It really is that bad Deleted User#0000: Damn fr? JustinXenyx#8854: Yes it is fucking trash JustinXenyx#8854: No joke
Deleted User#0000: Might switch it out then Deleted User#0000: In the coming weeks JustinXenyx#8854: Some ppl have it failing after a couple months or so Deleted User#0000: Other than that im pretty happy with it TheGeekster#8508: yeah the A400 is a bad SSD, it's not a good idea to buy if you don't already have it, go with a samsung or other decent brand, it'll last a *lot* longer Deleted User#0000: Considering i got that i7 cheaper as i wouldve gotten a 3700x its pretty ebick Deleted User#0000: I already have it Deleted User#0000: Plus the motherboard is baller JustinXenyx#8854: like i have 5 dead A400s in my possesion alone, other users on this server alone easily have over 10 dead or failing A400s combined Deleted User#0000: Holy shit Deleted User#0000: Aight might as well switch it out then Deleted User#0000: Probably get a 120gig m.2 ssd instead for like 30€ Deleted User#0000: That a good idea? JustinXenyx#8854: Yeah that sounds pretty decent Deleted User#0000: Ite sweet. Anything else of note about the built
Deleted User#0000: ? Deleted User#0000: Ill get it through a trade. Gonna give the dude my old pc JustinXenyx#8854: I'm not so sure how good that PSU is because i don't really know corsairs vengeance line very well but otherwise it is a fine PC Deleted User#0000: Id suppose its good cause its got a good rating Deleted User#0000: Pretty happy about the motherboard too Deleted User#0000: The storage is just trash though. 5400rpm 🤢 JustinXenyx#8854: it's a hard drive JustinXenyx#8854: it won't make a ton of difference BigPierogi#3368: if its for games n stuff BigPierogi#3368: its fine Deleted User#0000: Yeah. Think ill just mainly use my 2tb external hdd thougg JustinXenyx#8854: Also: achieving the ratings themselves isn't hard but making a quality PSU is hard Deleted User#0000: How so? JustinXenyx#8854: It's an efficiency thing JustinXenyx#8854: Your PSU can be efficient but still use shit components
Deleted User#0000: Yeah i guess Deleted User#0000: The build does look trash irl thougg Deleted User#0000: The 212 just adds pointless ass lights https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/705520323008921711/IMG-20200429-WA0012.jpg Deleted User#0000: Will these fans make a difference? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/705520927395414067/20200430_224744.jpg TheGeekster#8508: they'll be quiet... and not LED Deleted User#0000: Will they channel more air? Deleted User#0000: I legit dont have a clue TheGeekster#8508: eh possibly? depends what fans you have, but the bequiet fans are designed to move air quietly UKVamp#9361: damn taste the rainbow with that build Deleted User#0000: Yeah lmao Deleted User#0000: Id have gone with some patriot vipers if it were my build Deleted User#0000: Trident Zs still look cool though i cant really deny that Deleted User#0000: The static blue exhaust fan is aids Jam#0384: I dont like random LEDs Jam#0384: Keep the colors consistent or don’t use LEDs/RGB at all
tdp2612#3835: i dont think you can turn off the lights in the 212 rgb tdp2612#3835: you either get the normal one, or one with red leds tdp2612#3835: its not even rgb its just plain red afaik SLJ#9246: i changed the OS on my old laptop to windows 7 and no more texture pop in on gta 5 SLJ#9246: *it works, but at what cost?* thatubuntuguy#5914: can get some argb strips cheap off ebay thatubuntuguy#5914: and snip the led wires going to the 212 fans thatubuntuguy#5914: that's what i did KingGaurav#4771: So I have this installer to a Virtual SCSI driver that SHOULD work on Windows XP, however when I try to launch the installer it says its not a Win32 application on my host os I can launch it KingGaurav#4771: but in my Windows XP vm it gives the above error FuckinReece#0021: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/395801094145441812/705631567162376224/video0.mov FuckinReece#0021: what do you guys think of the pc i built for free FuckinReece#0021: its got a q660 FuckinReece#0021: nvidia quadro 600
FuckinReece#0021: 1.5gb ddr2 FuckinReece#0021: and a p5k pro mobo FuckinReece#0021: with a really janky tower cooler FuckinReece#0021: and an 80 plus 350 watt psu Jam#0384: its a PC Jam#0384: thats for sure Jam#0384: for free- not bad Jam#0384: for gayming bad but still good for free Muse#0557: The quadro is the weakest link Lady Mipha#0611: and the ram Charlie Foxtrot#9831: 1,5GB in 2020 LOL. SuSSudio#2688: Add more RAM, like 4GB atleast. in 2x2GB config SuSSudio#2688: Or 8GB in 4x2GB config if you can afford Muse#0557: Dio I think the point is that it's all free Lady Mipha#0611: yeah but look at the amount of ram he has @Muse
Muse#0557: Ik Muse#0557: It's obviously not a good amount Muse#0557: But it's clearly not a main pc Deleted User#0000: Nvm Deleted User#0000: I have this HP workstation my younger brother has And some recent events has happened where he won't need it anymore I was wondering if you guys think its worth 98$ Nvm, its a dell workstation CaptainFlanger#2563: What model? CaptainFlanger#2563: I am curious. Deleted User#0000: T3500 Deleted User#0000: And I already got it Deleted User#0000: So I'm pretty excited about it Deleted User#0000: Here are the specs Deleted User#0000: it has a 1100 watt 80+ Silver PSU
A Xeon w3250 in the 4 core range And 8GB of ram with a GTX 470 with 2GB of GDDR5 or 6 VRAM CaptainFlanger#2563: Wait, Xeon W? Deleted User#0000: Yes CaptainFlanger#2563: That's sorta "recent". SuSSudio#2688: No, that's 2009 Xeon W @CaptainFlanger SuSSudio#2688: Xeon W3520, not 3250 CaptainFlanger#2563: Yeah, we just talked about it. TheFifthAce#4128: @Deleted User 98$ is an awful price Deleted User#0000: Can I hear your reasoning? TheFifthAce#4128: it's a 4.8gt bloomfield cpu, its going to perform worse than pretty much any sandy chip TheFifthAce#4128: gtx 470 is wholly useless TheFifthAce#4128: like for 98$ I would've totally sent you a rig with an i5, 8gb ram, and an RX 470
Deleted User#0000: Why does Amused and other people think its a good value whereas you think it isn't because you can offer cheaper prices. TheFifthAce#4128: whos amused JustinXenyx#8854: It's pretty trashy to be fair TheFifthAce#4128: thats an awful price JustinXenyx#8854: and a GTX470 is nowhere near having GDDR6 lmao CaptainFlanger#2563: We already discussed this. It's a GDDR5. It's a typo. TheFifthAce#4128: you can get an i5 rig without a PSU and GPU for like 30$ pretty easily, pop in a PSU for 20$, grab a GPU for the remaining 50$ JustinXenyx#8854: > GDDR5 or 6 VRAM it clearly as fuck isn't lol @CaptainFlanger Deleted User#0000: With how prices are now a' days? TheFifthAce#4128: yes TheFifthAce#4128: easily TheFifthAce#4128: youre in america Deleted User#0000: Oh well JustinXenyx#8854: The problem is, it's not necesarily a bad computer
JustinXenyx#8854: But you bought it at an awful price TheFifthAce#4128: 40$? I could see it then CaptainFlanger#2563: He gets what he gets, man. Unless if he wants to play AAA titles, this computer is alright. TheFifthAce#4128: its not alright, its a bad price JustinXenyx#8854: If it was like 40-50 dollars or so i wouldn't be complaining but for almost $100 it's a decently sized rip off Deleted User#0000: There are mixed comments about the price TheFifthAce#4128: the people who are saying its a good price know nothing about the used market Deleted User#0000: But you are being unjust, its a 4 core 8 thread processor TheFifthAce#4128: its a 4.8gts bloomfield cpu JustinXenyx#8854: It's a 4 core 8 thread CPU on an 11 year old platform that is outdated to shit JustinXenyx#8854: And you have it in a prebuilt aswell, so no overclocking TheFifthAce#4128: the i5 2400 THRASHES it TheFifthAce#4128: the i5 2400 beats it multicore Deleted User#0000: *Was on FX, Screamed at. Now on 1366, still gets screamed at* TheFifthAce#4128: despite having half the threads
TheFifthAce#4128: thats how awful 4.8gt bloomfield is JustinXenyx#8854: FX was outright awful, but the 1366 was just a bad purchase at the price Deleted User#0000: http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/124/Intel_Core_i5_i5-2400_vs_Intel_Xeon_W3520.html JustinXenyx#8854: Hell, if it was not a prebuilt i wouldn't be complaining that much about the price Deleted User#0000: Its better than a i5 2400 TheFifthAce#4128: ..that site doesnt have any benchmarks TheFifthAce#4128: any Deleted User#0000: Then find me benchmarks Deleted User#0000: And stop complaining TheFifthAce#4128: you're almost as bad as the dollar deal tech guy lmao JustinXenyx#8854: But given that it IS a prebuilt you can't overclock and you probably can't upgrade a lot either TheFifthAce#4128: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/705704095431917588/unknown.png Deleted User#0000: Because I wanted to buy something with my own money makes me a bad person? TheFifthAce#4128: here you go TheFifthAce#4128: a fuck ton of benchmarks
JustinXenyx#8854: > Because I wanted to buy something with my own money makes me a bad person? @Deleted User That's not what we are implying TheFifthAce#4128: I'm saying you should return that system JustinXenyx#8854: We're saying at 100 USD you could have bought something better TheFifthAce#4128: and buy something much more usable TheFifthAce#4128: dude even the i3 2120 is 5gt/s TheFifthAce#4128: 4.8gt with wack stepping is mega cringe Muse#0557: Where are you gonna find a i3 full sized desktop with a good psu and cash left over for a 470 equivalent Muse#0557: Honestly its just an alright deal Muse#0557: its not like he spent an extra 60 bucks Muse#0557: to get half performance TheFifthAce#4128: he DID though TheFifthAce#4128: the GTX 470 will perform easily less than half the performance of an rx 470 Muse#0557: what? Muse#0557: well duh
TheFifthAce#4128: ?? TheFifthAce#4128: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/705705467451801678/unknown.png TheFifthAce#4128: HE DID JustinXenyx#8854: @Muse from what i understand, abstract was in talks with soul to send him a i5 + RX470 machine for like 100 bucks or so Muse#0557: so he was supposed to get a desktop with a good psu Muse#0557: oh right JustinXenyx#8854: so like JustinXenyx#8854: He clearly had a better offer on his hand Muse#0557: yeh but thats a stand out offer Deleted User#0000: You never said anything about a RX 470 Deleted User#0000: You said about GT 1030 TheFifthAce#4128: I thought I mentioned it , original thing was like 50$ for a 1030 one Muse#0557: doesnt make what he got bad TheFifthAce#4128: it does Muse#0557: Relative yeh
Muse#0557: but in the grand scheme Muse#0557: its alright JustinXenyx#8854: in the grand scheme it's even more of a meme build IMO, given that it is a prebuilt machine and he can't do a lot of overclocking TheFifthAce#4128: i5 2400 + 8gb + 250gb/500gb hdds are 30$ all the time, I can find them on ebay, on craigslist, on facebook, etc. I can find them in any basically any US state. 380w bronze PSus are under 20$ and more than enough for a 470 or something. 50$ left for a mining 470, an hd series card, gtx 770, honestly anything is better than a fucking fermi card JustinXenyx#8854: If it was a regular 1366 PC he could've done some decent overclocking and probably do some upgrades easier, but with the prebuilt he can essentially upgrade the GPU and after that no upgrade really makes sense beyond that Muse#0557: what overclocking is he gonna be doing on a h61 anyway TheFifthAce#4128: ?? TheFifthAce#4128: where did overclocking come into this Muse#0557: Justin said it TheFifthAce#4128: oh yeah Muse#0557: Also an x58 board costs as much as the whole tower rn TheFifthAce#4128: thats because 1366 would need the OC to catch up to STOCK 1155 JustinXenyx#8854: Don't wrong quote me lmao, i said if it was a regular 1366 PC JustinXenyx#8854: H61 isn't LGA1366 Muse#0557: Just sorta mixing things up
Muse#0557: because you are both sorta in agreement Muse#0557: then within the time i respond you both go down your own option pathes JustinXenyx#8854: If saying it once and finally makes it any clearer, here: I think for the money he could have gotten a much better machine and him having a prebuilt on LGA1366 makes the better machine argument for the price even clearer JustinXenyx#8854: 1366 is pretty trashy due to missing instruction sets, old architecture etc etc and NEEDS the overclocking to catch up with more modern machines TheFifthAce#4128: he should immediately try to return the machine Muse#0557: I think the biggest factor was the cost of convience Muse#0557: Worse value in orde Muse#0557: order to get a pc right this second Muse#0557: that is still a significant upgrade JustinXenyx#8854: that is called an impulse purchase™️ JustinXenyx#8854: :Hahahahaha: Muse#0557: not wanting to wait 2 weeks for bits to show is impulse? Muse#0557: he can get a w3565 for literal pocket change and slot in an rx 470 later Muse#0557: so that would improve things alot TheFifthAce#4128: and that w3565 would still mostly get stomped by a stock i5 2400
JustinXenyx#8854: > not wanting to wait 2 weeks for bits to show is impulse? I was joking, jesus christ people Muse#0557: ok? jojosensei#4198: What would be some low profile GPU worth getting for a 240w psu ? thatubuntuguy#5914: 1650? thatubuntuguy#5914: depends on budget thatubuntuguy#5914: how much you looking to spend JustinXenyx#8854: GTX 750, GT 1030, GTX 750Ti, 1050, 1050Ti, 1650 thatubuntuguy#5914: ^ JustinXenyx#8854: Those are pretty much the options you really have JustinXenyx#8854: low profile 950 is going to be tricky and not a lot better than a 750ti JustinXenyx#8854: 1030 is pretty much the cheapest newest alternative for a LP gpu, while performing roughly inbetween a 750 and 750Ti JustinXenyx#8854: Because you guessed it, i listed them after performance not price JustinXenyx#8854: 1030 is going to be the easiest to pick up all-round but you could score a great deal on a GTX750 or 750Ti JustinXenyx#8854: If your SFF PCs motherboard has a PCIe slot with limited power around the 25-35w mark the 1030 is pretty much your only option
jojosensei#4198: Don't know for now it's a optiplex 7010 sff jojosensei#4198: What would be a good price for 750 or ti ? JustinXenyx#8854: Depends where you live JustinXenyx#8854: Ideally, not more than a 1030 costs new/used and about where a normal 750/Ti would be JustinXenyx#8854: @TheFifthAce Opti 7010 SFF mobo PCIe power cucked or nah? JustinXenyx#8854: I can't quite remember and the motherboard doesn't indicate a limited power slot being there jojosensei#4198: I missed an elitedesk 800 with a better CPU and 320w for the same price as this one JustinXenyx#8854: Either way you got a good machine for your money so that's all that really matters jojosensei#4198: Yep but that 240w JustinXenyx#8854: In an SFF PC it really won't make much of a difference JustinXenyx#8854: You probably wouldn't go above 180-ishW power usage in both scenarios jojosensei#4198: Ok thanks because i've red that there could be problem with that even with low profiles gpu TheFifthAce#4128: @JustinXenyx depends on the version TheFifthAce#4128: if its the 24 pin no TheFifthAce#4128: if its the weird 6/8 pin one yes
jojosensei#4198: So if it's the 6 pin what will happen ? Muse#0557: It means that the graphics card needs a fair bit of power Muse#0557: And would exceed 180w Muse#0557: And probably 240w JustinXenyx#8854: @Muse Nope JustinXenyx#8854: Means he would be limited to really low power cards like a 1030 JustinXenyx#8854: Because he is limited to low profile cards either way JustinXenyx#8854: and LP cards (atleast the wide majority of them) do not have external power connectors Muse#0557: Ik they dont Muse#0557: But he asked if it did Muse#0557: So... Muse#0557: Ye Muse#0557: Wait oh Muse#0557: I understand Muse#0557: I hate context changing based on one word from like 5 sentences ago