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[User]
Title: Matching MoCA adapter brand to the modem?

Hello everyone,

I'm looking to set up a MoCA network in my new home (new to the concept, haven't set one up before); and, though I'm confident on how to set this up correctly, I had one question about which brand of adapter to go with.

I have a Hintron DOCSIS 3.1 E31N2V1, with Spectrum as my provider. Is it best to match my adapters to Hintron to avoid issues with competing frequencies, or would any decent brand work just the same? I will need to use PoE filters anyhow, but I'm wondering if Hintron would be building their adapters with all of their own models in mind, and would try to avoid having frequencies run into each other, even on DOCSIS 3.1 models. Here is the model I was looking at.

Another question I have is whether I should just choke down my pride and buy a better modem that can handle 10gb uploads and is prebuilt to be MoCA compatible — that's something my wife certainly won't be happy with, so please help a penny pincher out.

Sláinte,

IAVV

[Assistant]
IAVV said:
Hello everyone,

I'm looking to set up a MoCA network in my new home (new to the concept, haven't set one up before); and, though I'm confident on how to set this up correctly, I had one question about which brand of adapter to go with.

I have a Hintron DOCSIS 3.1 E31N2V1, with Spectrum as my provider. I will need to use PoE filters anyhow, but I'm wondering if Hintron would be building their adapters with all of their own models in mind, and would try to avoid having frequencies run into each other, even on DOCSIS 3.1 models.

Another question I have is whether I should just choke down my pride and buy that can handle 10gb uploads and is prebuilt to be MoCA compatible — that's something my wife certainly won't be happy with, so please help a penny pincher out.

Sláinte,

IAVV
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Need more info - DOCSIS is totally different from MOCA and it will consume a lot of the bandwidth on the coax. DOCSIS is the "WAN" side of your modem. Is that what you are trying to extend? If so, MOCA is not what you need, you just need to extend the coax cable, the modem has DOCSIS built in.

If you're looking to extend the LAN side of the modem to a router or whatever, any brand MOCA will do, no need to match it to the modem. Hintron does make them, GoCoax and Actiontec's ScreenBeam are also popular. Asus and Trendnet also make their own, motorola too, etc. Plenty of brands out there. Go with MOCA 2.0 (1 gig) or 2.5 (2.5 gig), not the old 1.0. There is another standard called G.HN, but I'd stick with the more popular MOCA. You can often find ISP rebadged actiontec MOCA 2.0 adapters on ebay/amazon, they'll say Frontier, Verizon, etc but will work fine. I saw a refurbished set of TrendNET ones on amazon the other day too, not sure if they're still there but they were pretty cheap.

Note that I would not really want to run MOCA and DOCSIS over the same coax. In theory it should work but they will likely compete for bandwidth and potentially interfere, especially if you have a high internet speed tier. Better to keep the two isolated if possible. The preference is when possible to just set up a separate splitter isolated from the rest of your coax for the MOCA adapters (though not always possible obviously). You can get filters to block the MOCA signals from flowing beyond where you want them to so that is another option, just keep the modem outside of that MOCA zone if possible.

I have not heard of a modem with MOCA built in. The only routers I've seen with it are FIOS/Frontier ones and they are MOCA 1.0 (and run MOCA-WAN, not MOCA-LAN anyway). Both of those ISPs did have an extender that had MOCA LAN built in but it was also MOCA 1.0. No need to try and get a device with it built in, personally I'd rather have it separate and thus separately upgradeable and movable.

Physically isolate the coax to be used for MOCA away from the coax used to feed from your ISP to the modem. DOCCIS3.1 and higher start to stomp on the frequency bands used by MOCA2 and 2.5 . That will save you some issues and bandwidth.

If you have multiple branches on the MOCA network, you will need a MOCA2/2.5 compatible splitter. Depending on the number of branches and the specific splitter, you may not need to use a MOCA POE filter, just make sure all unused ports are capped with 75 ohm resistor caps and same for any attached but unused coax runs (cap at wall plate).

drinkingbird said:
Need more info - DOCSIS is totally different from MOCA and it will consume a lot of the bandwidth on the coax. DOCSIS is the "WAN" side of your modem. Is that what you are trying to extend? If so, MOCA is not what you need, you just need to extend the coax cable, the modem has DOCSIS built in.

If you're looking to extend the LAN side of the modem to a router or whatever, any brand MOCA will do, no need to match it to the modem. Hintron does make them, GoCoax and Actiontec's ScreenBeam are also popular. Asus and Trendnet also make their own, motorola too, etc. Plenty of brands out there. Go with MOCA 2.0 (1 gig) or 2.5 (2.5 gig), not the old 1.0. There is another standard called G.HN, but I'd stick with the more popular MOCA. You can often find ISP rebadged actiontec MOCA 2.0 adapters on ebay/amazon, they'll say Frontier, Verizon, etc but will work fine. I saw a refurbished set of TrendNET ones on amazon the other day too, not sure if they're still there but they were pretty cheap.

Note that I would not really want to run MOCA and DOCSIS over the same coax. In theory it should work but they will likely compete for bandwidth and potentially interfere, especially if you have a high internet speed tier. Better to keep the two isolated if possible. The preference is when possible to just set up a separate splitter isolated from the rest of your coax for the MOCA adapters (though not always possible obviously). You can get filters to block the MOCA signals from flowing beyond where you want them to so that is another option, just keep the modem outside of that MOCA zone if possible.

I have not heard of a modem with MOCA built in. The only routers I've seen with it are FIOS/Frontier ones and they are MOCA 1.0 (and run MOCA-WAN, not MOCA-LAN anyway). Both of those ISPs did have an extender that had MOCA LAN built in but it was also MOCA 1.0. No need to try and get a device with it built in, personally I'd rather have it separate and thus separately upgradeable and movable.
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I am trying to extend my LAN so that I can get internet to my basement office and my wife's computer room upstairs.

I'm wary of running MOCA and DOCSIS together too, but with the layout of the house it makes the most sense out of any of the other options. It's not crazy high speed internet, 70-90mbps when on ethernet or when right beside the router, so I think with some filters I should at least get decent, consistent internet throughout the house. The biggest problem I have at the moment is that wifi cutting off constantly in the basement, running 10mbps or less or just dropping completely, which is an issue for my work.

The only other solution I see besides forking cash over to Spectrum is drilling a hole through the floor and running ethernet from the router straight to my work computer (the office is right below the living room), but convincing my wife to let me do that...

I'm following this video guide for installation, and at about 2:50 he mentions that there are modems that are pre-equipped with MOCA ability.

Thanks for the clarifications!


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[User]
Title: MOCA Output from Coax end

Hi, apologies for my ignorance but I can't find this information anywhere else!
(Further apologies if this has been asked already in the forum!)
I have a CCTV system which uses Coax inputs.
I have bought a EZVIZ C8C camera which has Wifi or LAN output. This will be installed on a detached garage, which has coax wiring link.
I'd like to connect via Wifi but can't get it to register at my local network but only via LAN. All the passwords are correct.
So I am considering using a MOCA adaptor but I do not know what the output is from the Coax end. Would the signal be appropriate to link to the coax input of the CCTV recorder?
The garage has its own power supply so Powerline connection does not work.
Any help or advice gratefully received.
Cheers
CJ

[Assistant]
steemer said:
Hi, apologies for my ignorance but I can't find this information anywhere else!
(Further apologies if this has been asked already in the forum!)
I have a CCTV system which uses Coax inputs.
I have bought a EZVIZ C8C camera which has Wifi or LAN output. This will be installed on a detached garage, which has coax wiring link.
I'd like to connect via Wifi but can't get it to register at my local network but only via LAN. All the passwords are correct.
So I am considering using a MOCA adaptor but I do not know what the output is from the Coax end. Would the signal be appropriate to link to the coax input of the CCTV recorder?
The garage has its own power supply so Powerline connection does not work.
Any help or advice gratefully received.
Cheers
CJ
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You would use two adapters, Ethernet on camera to adapter 1 to coax to adapter 2, Ethernet on adapter 2 to your router/network. Coax will not connect to your recorder at all, unless the recorder has MOCA support which I've never heard of (but may exist). I'm assuming the recorder also has a network connection?

Does wifi not connect even when close to your router? I'd troubleshoot that just to see if you can get it working, may need to tweak something on router, update camera firmware, etc.

drinkingbird said:
You would use two adapters, Ethernet on camera to adapter 1 to coax to adapter 2, Ethernet on adapter 2 to your router/network. Coax will not connect to your recorder at all, unless the recorder has MOCA support which I've never heard of (but may exist). I'm assuming the recorder also has a network connection?

Does wifi not connect even when close to your router? I'd troubleshoot that just to see if you can get it working, may need to tweak something on router, update camera firmware, etc.
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Thanks, drinkingbird, for your very quick reply.

At least I now know that just one MOCA adaptor won't be sufficient. Thanks for the confirmation. The recorder does have a network connection. I didn't really want the unnecessary expense of two MOCA adaptors if I still couldn't link to my CCTV recorder but that may be what I shall have to pursue if I can't get a Wifi connection.

I have been trying to get a Wifi link but am having continual problems. I have checked the log in and password numerous times and the mobile phone (with EZVIZ app), the router and the camera are less than 1m apart whilst I try to link. What's really annoying is that if I connect via LAN the camera is recognised and works!

There's definitely something impeding my success. I have been in contact with router maker who can't help, so I am still trying.

Thanks again and kind regards,

CJ

steemer said:
Thanks, drinkingbird, for your very quick reply.

At least I now know that just one MOCA adaptor won't be sufficient. Thanks for the confirmation. The recorder does have a network connection. I didn't really want the unnecessary expense of two MOCA adaptors if I still couldn't link to my CCTV recorder but that may be what I shall have to pursue if I can't get a Wifi connection.

I have been trying to get a Wifi link but am having continual problems. I have checked the log in and password numerous times and the mobile phone (with EZVIZ app), the router and the camera are less than 1m apart whilst I try to link. What's really annoying is that if I connect via LAN the camera is recognised and works!

There's definitely something impeding my success. I have been in contact with router maker who can't help, so I am still trying.

Thanks again and kind regards,

CJ
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If other wifi devices connect to the router then it is probably a limitation/bug on the camera. Some IOT devices can be picky about network name (no spaces or special characters) or password not having certain characters or not being too long.

Can you set up a guest wifi SSID (or temporarily change your main SSID and password) to something really simple just to test if the camera can connect? If so you know what to focus on.


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[User]
Title: Help with Frontier/MoCa/Router with static IPs

Just got a Frontier Fiber business account that has 5 static IPs. The tech wired it from ONT to in-house Sagemcom FAST5290 router using existing coax. I'm having a lot of trouble provisioning out the static IPs from there to my internal equipment. It seems like the IPs are not really provisioned thru to the Sagemcom although Frontier says they are. On top of it, I cannot find a manual for the FAST5290 anywhere, including Sagemcom's site.

So question - can I replace the Sagemcom with an Actiontec Moca adapter and run the ethernet end to an OPNSense box? From there I'd try to set up my internal boxes that are to get these IPs. I know very little of what I'm doing with the OPNSense but unlike the Sagemcom router there is a ton of info out there for OPNSense (or pfSense). I see a couple of login type things in the Sagemcom setup that makes me think it would not be a direct replacement. For instance there is a login under IPv4 setup with cpe_bootstrap@frontier.com as the user and a password (starred out of course) as well as a MoCA Password under MoCa WAN advanced tab. Thinking both of these are likely critical for the current setup to talk to the ONT which a replacement adapter won't have.

Thank you!

[Assistant]
I think I muddied things. In short, presently it's ONT(coax) -> coax cable in house -> (coax)Sagemcom router in office. From there the Sagemcom provides wifi and ethernet for a couple of computers that are wired. Would like to know if instead I can go ONT(coax) -> coax cable in house -> Actiontec MoCa device - ethernet. I'll then maybe repurpose the Sagemcom as wifi only or get some other wifi router. Does this sound proper? I posted setup pictures from the Sagecom that made me think this might not work. Thank you!

It'd have to be ONT -> coax -> MoCA -> some router -> the rest of your stuff. A MoCA adapter is just a bridge; it doesn't have any firewall or NAT ability, and you really must have both things at the front line of your internet connection. Whether the router has to be a Sagemcom or you can bring your own really depends on Frontier's terms of service (and whether they enforce them...)

tgl said:
It'd have to be ONT -> coax -> MoCA -> some router -> the rest of your stuff. A MoCA adapter is just a bridge; it doesn't have any firewall or NAT ability, and you really must have both things at the front line of your internet connection. Whether the router has to be a Sagemcom or you can bring your own really depends on Frontier's terms of service (and whether they enforce them...)
Thank you! Does the router mentioned need to be anything special? Can it just be an OPnSense box?


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[User]
Title: MOCA - Assistance Needed in what to purchase

We just purchased a house that was built in 2010 and my issue is they did not run any ethernet cables and the entire house including the basement is finished with sheet rock so I have no access to run wires. I was researching wifi mesh systems and someone on reddit suggested MOCA...which I had never heard of...and with some basic research think that MOCA could work for me as there are coax jacks in every location that I currently would like wired ethernet.

The house is serviced by Frontier Fiber and comes into the bedroom on one end of the house and they installed an ONT and then an arris router/wifi device. I want to get wired ethernet at the family room in the basement and the mechanical room in the basement. The mechanical room has an incoming line from the outside dish that goes to a 2 way splitter. Please note that we are not going to be utilizing DISHTV...but just mentioning it as it is existing. All the other runs of coax are near this splitter and are just bare wires...no ends on them (I have a compression tool to install my own ends).

I am trying to do research...but am a little concerned on what to purchase. I see the gocoax is a popular recommendation for the MOCA adapter and I am assuming that I need 3 MA2500D gocoax moca 2.5 adapters (bedroom, family room and mechanical room).
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POE...do I need one of these if no coax line leaves my house? If I still need one any recommendation...also not sure where to place it.

Splitter - any recommendation...right now I only envision 3 points needed wired ethernet...should I get a larger one in case that changes and just add terminators to the unused splitter ports? This splitter will be in mechanical room..once moca is installed in bedroom does this line go to the in of the splitter then the outs go to the other two locations I want ethernet?

I am also confused on location of the moca adapters, right now I am connected as follows:

ONT->Ethernet to ->Arris Router ->ethernet to -> eero wifi (all these devices are in the bedroom where the fiber enters the house). Where does the adapter go?

Sorry for so many questions...I would normally keep researching..but I want to place my order ASAP so I can make an attempt at installing this weekend.

Thanks for any assistance!

[Assistant]
seaverd said:
We just purchased a house that was built in 2010 and my issue is they did not run any ethernet cables and the entire house including the basement is finished with sheet rock so I have no access to run wires. I was researching wifi mesh systems and someone on reddit suggested MOCA...which I had never heard of...and with some basic research think that MOCA could work for me as there are coax jacks in every location that I currently would like wired ethernet.

The house is serviced by Frontier Fiber and comes into the bedroom on one end of the house and they installed an ONT and then an arris router/wifi device. I want to get wired ethernet at the family room in the basement and the mechanical room in the basement. The mechanical room has an incoming line from the outside dish that goes to a 2 way splitter. Please note that we are not going to be utilizing DISHTV...but just mentioning it as it is existing. All the other runs of coax are near this splitter and are just bare wires...no ends on them (I have a compression tool to install my own ends).

I am trying to do research...but am a little concerned on what to purchase. I see the gocoax is a popular recommendation for the MOCA adapter and I am assuming that I need 3 MA2500D gocoax moca 2.5 adapters (bedroom, family room and mechanical room).
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POE...do I need one of these if no coax line leaves my house? If I still need one any recommendation...also not sure where to place it.

Splitter - any recommendation...right now I only envision 3 points needed wired ethernet...should I get a larger one in case that changes and just add terminators to the unused splitter ports? This splitter will be in mechanical room..once moca is installed in bedroom does this line go to the in of the splitter then the outs go to the other two locations I want ethernet?

I am also confused on location of the moca adapters, right now I am connected as follows:

ONT->Ethernet to ->Arris Router ->ethernet to -> eero wifi (all these devices are in the bedroom where the fiber enters the house). Where does the adapter go?

Sorry for so many questions...I would normally keep researching..but I want to place my order ASAP so I can make an attempt at installing this weekend.

Thanks for any assistance!
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I'm in hurry, too, right now... here's what I did to extend the LAN over coax:

Preparing to buy a set of MoCA 2.5 adapters...
I'm about to order a set of ScreenBeam MoCA 2.5 adapters ECB7250: Amazon.com: ScreenBeam Bonded MoCA 2.5 Network Adapter for Highest Speed Internet, Ethernet Over Coax - Starter Kit (Model: ECB7250K02) ScreenBeam appears to be a retail outlet for Actiontec(?), so I'm assuming these adapters...
www.snbforums.com

OE

Thanks, I will read through your post.

Just to clarify…I am going to disconnect the old dishtv coax coming from outside…also there is no OTA tv available in this location, so my coax will only be used for Moca…so does that mean I don’t need Poe devices?

seaverd said:
Thanks, I will read through your post.

Just to clarify…I am going to disconnect the old dishtv coax coming from outside…also there is no OTA tv available in this location, so my coax will only be used for Moca…so does that mean I don’t need Poe devices?

You use a MoCA filter to block MoCA signaling to any points you do not want to expose it (to ISP/neighbors cable network) or experience it. My MoCA network is not connected to my ISP coax, so I do not have to consider this nor potential conflict with [future] DOCSIS signaling... however, I still use MoCA filters to not pass MoCA signaling to my media center equipment and to my OTA antennas... I figure why not.

(Power-over-Ethernet...PoE... does not apply to MoCA.)

OE


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[User]
Title: MoCA POE filter with AT&T twisted pair drop

installed Hitron Bonded MoCA 2.5 Adapter for Ethernet Over Coax (2-Pack), connecting AT&T residential gateway to Apple TV one floor below. Working fine, but literature indicates many benefits of having a MoCA POE filter in place. Such filters connect at the point of the incoming coax drop. However, my incoming line (AT&T) is twisted pair going directly from the street into the gateway. Where would I place a MoCA filter in this scenario?

[Assistant]
nope, nowhere, as you have point to point moca over coax.
The filter applies if you have ethernet service from a coax based internet provider or are using a splitter with an unused INPUT port.

Thank you, degrub. So, if I understand, you’re saying I’m all right using MoCA without a filter because it’s unnecessary since my feed isn’t coax, right?

WCFeels said:
Thank you, degrub. So, if I understand, you’re saying I’m all right using MoCA without a filter because it’s unnecessary since my feed isn’t coax, right?

If you don't have a CATV drop active in the house, then yes...


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[User]
Title: Combine MoCA and PoE in one device?

Does anyone make a device that combines MoCA and PoE in one device? Such a device would have an Ethernet port and a coax port like the current MoCA adapters. It would also be powered by a power source beefy enough to power several devices on the other end of the coax run, where the MoCA adapter would not need its own supply and could, in addition, power a camera or WiFi access port. It would greatly clean up wiring at the network end point.

I have come across the LINOVISION POE Over Coax EOC Converter:

… but it apparently can only handle Fast Ethernet speeds.

[Assistant]
This has also been a question for powerline networks since powerline adapters are even physically plugged into power--and I know of only one product made many years ago. It just seems like there isn't the demand enough for someone to make it.

FWIW, I found a different manufacturer of this kind of device, dualcomm.com formerly known as pairtek.com (products available from Amazon or direct). Looks like theirs are also limited to 100Mbps ethernet speed, though.

i think this product is for very specific needs, so the choice won't be as many as poe switch or MoCA alone


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[User]
Title: Best powerline Ethernet adapters tested?

I've used D-Link DHP-308AV in the past, they worked okay in a small apartment, especially for the price. But, they're not working well at a house with a shed, the shed power goes to the house breaker panel, but the link quality is quite poor. The shed underground power line (inside conduit) is about 30 feet long. This is a 120V US power circuit.

Mesh repeater reliability has been even worse, possibly due to the foil insulation of the shed.

Are there any published comparisons of powerline Ethernet adapters with tests? Anyone with experience here?

[Assistant]
r00tb33r said:
Are there any published comparisons of powerline Ethernet adapters with tests? Anyone with experience here?

Powerline adapters are covered in the sister forum "MoCA, HomePlug, HPNA".

As a single data point, my own experience is that TP-Link AV2000 units work a lot better than Zyxel G.hn units on a sub-par circuit. Can't say if that's down to the manufacturers or the networking standards, as I have no other comparison points. But you can read more over there.

if there is an arc fault type breaker in the transmission path, no powerline may work well, if at all.

Powerline/HomePlug products are pretty much a dead category for the U.S. market. They can be helpful when WiFi won't work, but they have their own set of problems.

You can find reviews here, but they are old. https://www.smallnetbuilder.com/lanwan/lanwan-reviews/

Other helpful articles:
How To Troubleshoot Your Powerline Network - SmallNetBuilder
Is your powerline network running too slowly? Use these powerline troubleshooting tips to get the throughput you need!
www.smallnetbuilder.com
SmallNetBuilder's Powerline FAQ - 2015 - SmallNetBuilder
Check out our freshly-updated Powerline FAQ for all you need to know about how to use your home's power lines to get Ethernet anywhere there's an outlet!
www.smallnetbuilder.com


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[User]
Title: MoCA POE Filter Goes Where in Picture?

Long time lurker, first time poster. Need help updating the coax cable box.

Given the following (but not married to any of them):
ASUS MA-25 2 Pack
PPC SNLP-1GCW MoCA POE Coax Filter
Cable Matters 2.4 Ghz 4-Way Coaxial Cable Splitter
My thoughts were to swap out the SV-4G with the Cable Matters 4-way splitter (as cable box unopened in over a decade or more).
Should POE filter be installed on the EV01-9-UU where I drew the arrow? Or can it go outside the cable box?
I get anything obviously wrong?

Merci beaucoup!

[Assistant]
depends on what you are doing with the coax cabling and if the ISP coax ( or tv ) is being used under DOCCIS3.1 ( or using bands in the MOCA spectrum. Depends on where that DOCCIS modem is located as well.
Usually, you would put a MOCA POE filter trap at the top of the network tree structure that will be using MOCA. So could be anywhere in your cabling in theory.

Does the PPC splitter include a MOCA filter on the input ? some do.

Are are of the splitters compatible with MOCA 2 or 2.5 ?

A coax network map sketch with all devices, model #s shown would help both you and us.

House was built in 2004 so it predates MoCA 1.0 (2006), 1.1 (2007), 2.0 (06/2010), & 2.5 (04/2016). Wire/coax has not been rerun. Comcast service technician changed something (likely splitter) early on during troubleshooting call but unsure what -- it wasn't considered expensive whatever it was (free).

Cable box is located in closet on the other side of wall from office where cable modem is located.
Can't really say much about wiring coming into the house, as it enters on west side of the house and comes up in the closet (east side). There are at least a dozen female wall coax receptacles throughout various rooms of two-story house. Sorry, I'm not a network technician -- do I need one to add MoCA adapters?

Cable Box: (likely anyway)
PPC EVO1-9-U/U 9 Port Amplifier
SV-4G Commscope Coaxial 5-1000Mhz 4-Way Splitter
* Replace this splitter with Amphenol ABS314H 4-Way Coaxial Splitter (MoCA 2.5)

Internet:
Motorola MB8611 2.5Gbps DOCSIS 3.1 Cable Modem
DOCSIS 3.1 (blue)
2+ bonded channels down (blue) & up (blue)
Ethernet link at 1GE (green)
Xfinity (née Comcast) plan: 800 Mbps down / 10 Mbps up

Office Intended step-by-step:
Disconnect cable modem from wall outlet
Connect POE filter to office wall coax outlet (if that would work)
Connect [new spare] short coax cable(1) to other end of POE filter
Connect other end of coax cable(1) to "IN" port 2-way splitter
Connect [existing] coax cable(2) from cable modem into one "OUT" port on that 2-way splitter
Connect [vendor-supplied] coax cable(3) to other "OUT" port on that 2-way splitter
Connect other end of coax cable(3) to MoCA adapter
Enable mode switch (mode 2) on MoCA adapter (for DOCSIS 3.1 compatibility)
Connect [vendor-supplied] Ethernet cable to MoCA adapter
Connect other end of Ethernet cable to LAN port of ASUS router
Connect power to MoCA adapter and check that "LAN" light is white
In Kitchen on west side of house:
Disconnect [unneeded] coax cable(4) from wall outlet
Remove Xfinity cable adapter box and set aside for return
Connect [vendor-supplied] coax cable(5) to other MoCA adapter
Connect [vendor-supplied] Ethernet cable to MoCA adapter
Connect other end of Ethernet cable to AppleTV (or whatever hardware)
Connect HDMI cable to both AppleTV and television
Connect power to both AppleTV and television
Connect power to MoCA adapter and check that "LAN" light is white
Wait ~30secs. Afterwards, "MoCA" light should be on as well
Download "Xfinity Stream" from app store (via AppleTV) and configure appropriately

Is there a specific test to see if the POE is functioning correctly? Have seen some setups with two POEs but couldn't determine if I would too.

Or should I give up? I hate having the Comcast techs come as it's a complete crapshoot as to whether they are competent -- at least I care whether my setup works.

We need to understand the cable path for the MOCA signal. A sketch of you cable layout and which devices are attached where: ISP modem, moca modems, splitters, other coax devices ( DVRs, etc)

Otherwise we are just guessing. Since that 4 way splitter appears to be plugged into the large powered splitter what goes to what mattters.

If the ISP signals to/from the coax modem are restricted to the large powered splitter and your MOCA network does not need to have a path through that large splitter, you would place the MOCA POE filter at the input to the 4 way splitter. Anything else, and we are talking about changing the 4 port for something larger and moving the cables that need MOCA signal but not ISP signal or ISP TV signals to the new splitter.

Some TV DVRs used MOCA but it was not advertised.


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Title: Spectrum Gig MOCA issue

It's been a while, I've had nothing but perfect MOCA 2.0 until recently. Long story short Spectrum upgraded me from their 400/20 plan to their 1000/40 plan for less money so I said yes. Nothing else has changed. I still have the same DOCSIS 3.1 modem as before. When I do a speed test though, I average at 700mbps and the best I've seen was 820mbps. The tech hooked up his tool at the POE and told me he was seeing 1.2gbps. So either something on my Coax is not up to snuff or the modem is possibly operating at a different frequency range now?

[Assistant]
What device and point on the network are you doing the internet speed test from ?
Could be your router and/or modem capabilities, could be coax issue, etc.
Many consumer routers are not able to handle fully Gbit WAN-LAN, and it can depend on what else is running in the router and configuration.
Map of your current network and devices, please.

I should also mention that when I transfer files over the same path to and from my NAS, I get 112-115MB/s.

Where did the tech do his test or reading ?
Did he say anything about the highest freq the modem was using ?

From the gaming pc out to the internet, the packets have to go to the router, then modem, then back across the same piece of coax. If there are any collisions or freq band overlap, that will reduce the measured speed.
That is ok if on different bands. Doccis 3.1 can overlap with moca 2, 2.5 bands. You may have to shift to higher bands on the moca modems.
So get into the cable modem and figure out what the highest freq bands doccis 3.1 is using .

you need to use one hardwired ethernet device and plug it into the lan port of the cable modem and run your speed test. Then move to a lan port on the main router, repeat.

what results do you get ?


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Title: Help with MOCA and Frontier ONT

Hello...new to the form.

I have a Frontier ONT in garage running (no splitter) to upstairs Frontier (verizon) wifi router. From the COAX is a connected Frontier WF-803FT with the ethernet connected to the Frontier wifi router. All is working fine and getting 1 gb speeds (wired).

I am interested in adding another hard wired ethernet connection to home theater via coax, so I added a two way splitter to the ONT line coming into the house and split the connection to include the original upstairs coax and the one going to home theater. Using another Frontier WF-803 FT to this coax, with ethernet I am getting green blinking light that ethernet is connected and working but no data output.

What am I doing wrong? Do I need a filter somewhere? Do I need a 2-way splitter (not 100% sure the splitter is 2 way)?

On the 2nd WF-803 FT (new) I used modes "full" "LAN" and "WAN" with the same results (no ethernet data transmission). The upstairs WF-803 (original) is set to "WAN" with all lights solid/not blinking.

Any help you can provide will be greatly appreciated!

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You may need yet one more FCA251 adapter, to net two adapters each set to their "LAN" configuration setting. And an additional FCA251["LAN"] adapter anywhere else you want to extend the router LAN via your coax.

FCA251/WF-803FT (GigE port):
WAN: 1475-1675 MHz (2x 100 MHz)
LAN: 1025-1350 MHz (3x 100 MHz)
FULL: 1125-1675 MHz (5x 100 MHz)
What is the model # of the upstairs router? Assuming it's a typical FiOS router, it has a built-in MoCA LAN bridge and could provide that function once connected to the shared coax plant, but the issue is complicated due to use of the FCA251 adapter for the MoCA WAN link. The FCA251 is using 2 of 5 available MoCA 2.x channels in the Extended Band D range to effect the MoCA WAN link, leaving only the lower 3 channels available for the MoCA LAN. So, you could use any retail MoCA 2.x adapters set to use only the D-Low sub-band, limiting throughput to 400 Mbps, or use the FCA251 adapters, whose non-standard "LAN" configuration steps outside the standard range to use 3x 100 MHz channels to net 1200 Mbps shared throughput.

If trying to use retail MoCA 2.x adapters at D-Low, you could see if the router's built-in MoCA LAN bridge can be configured to this limited operating range; if not, a properly configured retail adapter would be needed at the router to function as the main LAN MoCA/Ethernet bridge.

Whether using the FiOS router, a retail MoCA adapter or a FCA251 as the main LAN MoCA/Ethernet bridge, doing so would require use of a 2-way MoCA 2.x-compatible splitter at the router location, to get both the FCA251["WAN"] adapter and the associated MoCA LAN bridge both connected to the room's coax outlet. (Of course, with any standalone MoCA adapter being used to effect the main MoCA LAN bridge, the adapter would need to be Ethernet-connected to a LAN port on the router. Moot if the router built-in bridge is being used.)

Alternatively, do you have any other signals on the coax? Like TV?

If the coax is otherwise dark, you could replace the FCA251["WAN"] connection by using a pair of FCA252 adapters set to their "25GW" configuration toggle position, to shift the MoCA WAN operating frequency range to 400-900 MHz, netting a full throughput MoCA 2.5 link for the WAN and leaving the whole of the MoCA Extended Band D range for use by the MoCA LAN, allowing use of retail MoCA 2.x adapters using default settings or FCA251 adapters set to "FULL" (or FCA252 adapters set to "LAN").

Requirements:
* Frequency range is available
* FCA252 adapter can be Ethernet-connected to ONT Ethernet WAN port, and powered
* Provider is contacted to switch WAN link from MoCA WAN to Ethernet WAN.

See this reddit post for more info. Also, here's an example diagram of the FCA252["WAN"] approach:

p.s. Related reddit post discussing additional alternatives, here.

Thank you krkaufman,

I do not have anything else running on the coax to my knowledge (I have direct tv streaming via wifi to direct tv set top box). This is my primary reason for wanting to run MOCA via coax so I can have a ethernet (not wifi) to direct tv set top box avoiding wifi.

It seems that I need additional hardware? I'm not 100% sure the model of my verizon/frontier router I'll have to look at it once home.

How would I connect the 2 FCA251 together to allow what you suggest? Buying another FCA 251 would not be a problem, just trying to follow what you suggest

Thank you!

Dave


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Title: Coax Topology for MoCA

Hello,
I habe 3 coax cables running in my house, one to each floor.
they are however not connected from both ends.
They all start in the basement, and run to each floor.
so my question is, how do I connect them, to have a MOCA ready connection?
If I use a one to four coax distributor(4 way splitter), does it make any difference which end is connected to the „input“ and which to the „output“?
Can I habe both MOCA adaptors at the outputs? Or one at the input and one at the output?

[Assistant]
Absent a TV or DOCSIS signal forcing the topology, my preference is still having all the MoCA adapters on the output ports of a right-sized “designed for MoCA 2.x” splitter, with its input port capped w/ a “PoE” MoCA filter and 75-ohm terminator. Others prefer connecting the main adapter to the splitter input and the remaining adapters to the outputs (NO filter in this case), with the splitter outputs reduced by one since one adapter has shifted to the input port. (examples)

bojomojo said:
Can I habe both MOCA adaptors at the outputs?
If just trying to link two locations, absent external TV or cable Internet signal feed, the simplest and best performing solution is to just join their respective coax lines using a 3 GHz F-81 barrel connector to form a direct coax connection.


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Title: Moca adapters causing router to hang up

Hi everyone, I recently picked up a pair of ASUS MA-25 moca 2.5 adapters to extend my network to my upstairs office, and I'm having some issues that is driving me crazy. None of the coax in the house is in use and I have about a 50ft run of ethernet from the router and then a direct connection between the 2 adapters with about 75ft of RG-6. When I plug the adapters in they connect almost immediately and seem to work as expected. I have an Asus GT-AX6000 which has 2 2.5gb ports on it and shows active at the correct speed and I get great speeds on the other end. Now the problem I'm having is that seeming randomly the router will just lock up for few seconds and all internet will hang and even the router web interface will become inaccessible and the adapter on the router side will appear to reboot itself. In the router log the only indication of an issue is this:
Mar 4 10:57:59 kernel: eth5 (Int switch port: 6) (Logical Port: 6) (phyId: 13) Link DOWN.
Mar 4 10:57:59 kernel: ^[[0;34m[NTC xport] xport_reset: rc = 0; intf = 3 port = 2 spd = 2.5G dup = 1
Mar 4 10:57:59 kernel: ^[[0m

Sometimes more than once in a row which I'm guessing is whats causing it to hang. If I unplug the ethernet cable that's going to the adapter while the router is hung up it will immediately become responsive again. I've also tried connecting to one of the regular 1gb ports and the same issue happens. I've tested all of the cables with a fluke ciq-100 and everything tests ok. I've had the router for a few weeks now and have had absolutely no issues with it until I introduced these adapters. Anyone have any idea what might be causing this? These adapters are relatively new and there's not much information on them, and as far as I can tell there is no web interface or firmware updates. At this point I'm ready to send the adapters back and try another pair.

[Assistant]
How is your Internet being delivered … cable, DSL, fiber, Starlink, other?

If applicable, what’s the brand & model # of your modem?

You’re certain that the two adapters are connected via a direct, isolated coax line?

Do you have a wireless extender connected via the new MoCA link, one that hasn’t yet been reconfigured to strictly an access point? What *is* connected to the remote adapter when the symptoms are seen?

Sorry meant to mention that. Recently switched from Comcast to fiber, using the ISPs ont connected to the asus router. I'm 99% sure there is no other splitters since I disconnected the run from the main splitter to go directly into the moca adapter, but I'm 100% sure there is no other device connected to the coax. the client on the other side of the is just a PC with a USB 2.5gb adapter that connects correctly at 2.5gb when it is working and speeds seem normal. I have also tried connected to the onboard 1gb port with the same results. No wireless extenders...was hoping the moca adapters would eliminate the need for them...

cicatriz63 said:
Sorry meant to mention that. Recently switched from Comcast to fiber, using the ISPs ont connected to the asus router. I'm 99% sure there is no other splitters since I disconnected the run from the main splitter to go directly into the moca adapter, but I'm 100% sure there is no other device connected to the coax. the client on the other side of the is just a PC with a USB 2.5gb adapter that connects correctly at 2.5gb when it is working and speeds seem normal. I have also tried connected to the onboard 1gb port with the same results. No wireless extenders...was hoping the moca adapters would eliminate the need for them...
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Sounds like maybe that adapter is faulty, it could be causing a brief bridge loop or broadcast storm when it reboots itself spiking the router CPU to 100% and/or saturating the switch. Hard to say if the reboot is causing the problem or if the problem is causing the reboot. You could try rebooting the MOCA adapter manually and see if it happens then, mostly out of curiosity.

I recall some Lenovo NICs (I think) would take the router down when the PC went to sleep. Not sure anyone ever figured out what the cause was, but it was similar.

Sounds like trying a different pair is probably your best bet. Maybe look at the Actiontec ones as those are pretty well established at this point.


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Title: About Coaxial network and Moca adapters

Greetings!

I intend to purchase Moca adapter kit. I have RG-6, 76 Ohm coax cable running to 5 rooms in my house. The house is 2-story. All of the coax cable placed at the second floor (They are outdoor), then running to each room and there is a coax jack/port on the wall of each room. Keep in mind in my country, we use fiber cable and it might be pretty different from the USA. We don’t use coax cable for ISP. Moreover, I think the coax cable of each room doesn't relate, connect to each other since there is no splitter. Just simply 5 coax cables outdoors run directly to each room. The router is on the first floor, in the living room and not near any coax line. However, I'm gonna try to run a ethernet cable from the router to 1 of the 5 coaxial room. I would like to ask several questions:
1/ Can I use my coax cable for ethernet with Moca adapters? Usually which brand is the best overall: Screenbeam, Actiontec, TrendNet, GoCoax, Motorola...?
2/ In addition, I wonder that there are various speed of the Moca adapter (e.g 250 Mbps, 1 Gbps, 2 Gbps) but there is only 1 type of coax cable at my house. Then what is the maximum bandwidth my coax can get? Since we know for instance the maximum of Cat 5 is 100 Mbps, of cat 5e is 1000 Mbps. I have no clue about the internet speed my RG-6 75 Ohm cable
3/ If I can use, Do I need splitter, which kind of splitter is that? I have seen several youtube videos about Moca, some video mentioned that we need splitter, other claimed that we don't need. Really confusing.
4/ I have totally 5 coax lines, then if I want internet each room, How and What should I setup? As I imagine, If I have 5 coax lines, when using the splitter, I might plug one end of the 5 lines to the splitter with 5 input jacks/ports, from output of the splitter to the 1st Moca, the other end to the 2nd Moca each room. Will that work? Which kind of splitter for totaly 5 coaxial lines?
Thanks and best wishes

[Assistant]
linkinp said:
Greetings!

I intend to purchase Moca adapter kit. I have RG-6, 76 Ohm coax cable running to 5 rooms in my house. The house is 2-story. All of the coax cable placed at the second floor (They are outdoor), then running to each room and there is a coax jack/port on the wall of each room. Keep in mind in my country, we use fiber cable and it might be pretty different from the USA. We don’t use coax cable for ISP. Moreover, I think the coax cable of each room doesn't relate, connect to each other since there is no splitter. Just simply 5 coax cables outdoors run directly to each room. The router is on the first floor, in the living room and not near any coax line. However, I'm gonna try to run a ethernet cable from the router to 1 of the 5 coaxial room. I would like to ask several questions:
1/ Can I use my coax cable for ethernet with Moca adapters? Usually which brand is the best overall: Screenbeam, Actiontec, TrendNet, GoCoax, Motorola...?
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yes, but you will need to connect all to a splitter that is moca 2 rated, outdoor rated connectors ( may have already on coax), and install a moca poe filter on the inlet port of the splitter if it is not designed with one. Look at Antronix as a good brand. Make sure the coax and splitter are in a weather proof box and not exposed to the weather. MOCA splitters should be rated 5-1675 MHz. Do not use satellite (eg. Direct TV) rated or ordinary TV splitters.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PRYWD81/?tag=snbforums-20

linkinp said:
2/ In addition, I wonder that there are various speed of the Moca adapter (e.g 250 Mbps, 1 Gbps, 2 Gbps) but there is only 1 type of coax cable at my house. Then what is the maximum bandwidth my coax can get? Since we know for instance the maximum of Cat 5 is 100 Mbps, of cat 5e is 1000 Mbps. I have no clue about the internet speed my RG-6 75 Ohm cable
If you have to use a single coax to reach your internal router and then go back out on that same coax to other devices, you will only have half of the rated usable bandwidth. So i would suggest using MOCA 2.5 modems for all of your connections. GoCoax has a good history here, but there are others. That way you should be able to reach gigabit speeds assuming the cable and connectors are in good condition.
linkinp said:
3/ If I can use, Do I need splitter, which kind of splitter is that? I have seen several youtube videos about Moca, some video mentioned that we need splitter, other claimed that we don't need. Really confusing.
at the head end where all of the internal coax cables terminate, you will need the splitter with a moca port for each cable. Do not buy a splitter with more ports than the number of cables you need to connect to. See question 1. Since you have 5 cables, a 5 outlet port moca2. rated splitter would be ideal. You may have to buy a 6 or 8 port and place 75 ohm caps on the unused ports. See #1
linkinp said:
4/ I have totally 5 coax lines, then if I want internet each room, How and What should I setup? As I imagine, If I have 5 coax lines, when using the splitter, I might plug one end of the 5 lines to the splitter with 5 input jacks/ports, from output of the splitter to the 1st Moca, the other end to the 2nd Moca each room. Will that work? Which kind of splitter for totaly 5 coaxial lines?
There are two ways to do this. Option 1 is a star layout with a pair of moca modems on each cable. ie 1 at the head end and 1 at the room for each. You will also need a 8 port gigbit unmanaged ethernet switch. This requires all the equipment be inside the house.
Option 2 is to use a 6 port moca 2 rated splitter at the head end with a moca poe filter on the intlet port. This only requires a weatherproof box at the head in outside.

unless you can move everything inside for option 1, you will have to use option 2.

If there is an unused coax cable from the external ISP or cable TV supplier, do not connect to it.
linkinp said:
Thanks and best wishes

I believe Screenbeam and Actiontec adapters are essentially the same product. I went with Screenbeam MoCA 2.5 with 2.5Gbps Ethernet ports.

OE

degrub said:
yes, but you will need to connect all to a splitter that is moca 2 rated, outdoor rated connectors ( may have already on coax), and install a moca poe filter on the inlet port of the splitter if it is not designed with one. Look at Antronix as a good brand. Make sure the coax and splitter are in a weather proof box and not exposed to the weather. MOCA splitters should be rated 5-1675 MHz. Do not use satellite (eg. Direct TV) rated or ordinary TV splitters.

If you have to use a single coax to reach your internal router and then go back out on that same coax to other devices, you will only have half of the rated usable bandwidth. So i would suggest using MOCA 2.5 modems for all of your connections. GoCoax has a good history here, but there are others. That way you should be able to reach gigabit speeds assuming the cable and connectors are in good condition.

at the head end where all of the internal coax cables terminate, you will need the splitter with a moca port for each cable. Do not buy a splitter with more ports than the number of cables you need to connect to. See question 1. Since you have 5 cables, a 5 outlet port moca2. rated splitter would be ideal. You may have to buy a 6 or 8 port and place 75 ohm caps on the unused ports. See #1

There are two ways to do this. Option 1 is a star layout with a pair of moca modems on each cable. ie 1 at the head end and 1 at the room for each. You will also need a 8 port gigbit unmanaged ethernet switch. This requires all the equipment be inside the house.
Option 2 is to use a 6 port moca 2 rated splitter at the head end with a moca poe filter on the intlet port. This only requires a weatherproof box at the head in outside.

unless you can move everything inside for option 1, you will have to use option 2.

If there is an unused coax cable from the external ISP or cable TV supplier, do not connect to it.
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Thank you. But we need Moca 2.5, then why the splitter is not 2.5 instead of that Moca 2.0 Antronix on Amazon?


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Title: please double check my moca set up

I have the following equipment:
comcast cable- no tv service
Arris Modem SB6141
Google wifi mesh
3 Actiontec moca 2.5 adapters

My set up which is working.
cable in from comcast with POE filter to Ideal #85-132 5Mhz-1Ghz spliter (2)4db out
1- out to office/ then 2 way splitter/ one end going to arris modem other end going to moca adapter/ google wifi router puck/ 4 port switch.
2- out to another spliter/ one end going to basement moca adapter/ google wifi puck and the other end going to family room moca adapter /google wifi puck

its working, but is it correct? I tried to buy this: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08QF5SHHC/?tag=snbforums-20
but it made two pucks turn red and not work.
Which switch would allow me to connect all my cables together? this way the house would be outfitted for moca in other rooms not currently used.
i have a box next to the fuse panel where they terminated all the coax lines together. They were originally hooked to this , what i think is a power amplifier for UHF signals for over the air tv? The previous owner does have a large antena in the attic. He also had satelite but im only using internet with roku.

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Brett Stimpson said:
I have the following equipment:
comcast cable- no tv service
Arris Modem SB6141
Google wifi mesh
3 Actiontec moca 2.5 adapters

My set up which is working.
cable in from comcast with POE filter to Ideal #85-132 5Mhz-1Ghz spliter (2)4db out
1- out to office/ then 2 way splitter/ one end going to arris modem other end going to moca adapter/ google wifi router puck/ 4 port switch.
2- out to another spliter/ one end going to basement moca adapter/ google wifi puck and the other end going to family room moca adapter /google wifi puck

its working, but is it correct? I tried to buy this:
but it made two pucks turn red and not work.
Which switch would allow me to connect all my cables together? this way the house would be outfitted for moca in other rooms not currently used.
i have a box next to the fuse panel where they terminated all the coax lines together. They were originally hooked to this , what i think is a power amplifier for UHF signals for over the air tv? The previous owner does have a large antena in the attic. He also had satelite but im only using internet with roku.
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An 8 way splitter with no amplification is cutting your signal by over 90%. Then you're running it to a 2 way splitter that cuts that remaining few percent in half again. That is why those two pucks went red, basically no signal left for them to use. I'm assuming the Arris modem was offline or getting extremely slow speed also. There is a good reason you'll rarely see a good name brand 8 way splitter that has no amp built in, it is basically useless. Then once you put the 2 port on top of that, you had no chance.

Wiring every room to a coax splitter port is not something you can do, this isn't ethernet with active switching. If it was just for TV you could do it with an amplifier, but this is for high bandwidth 2-way data, which does not play well with amps generally. It can be done but it would be expensive and probably not the best performance. You'll see 90% of the time when the cable companies do use an amplifier, they put it on the TV portion only, and the modem bypasses it.

If you want ethernet in every room/many rooms you have a few options, in order of best to worst:
1. Run ethernet wire
2. Move Arris router/modem to basement, put an ethernet switch in the basement, use MOCA adapters to convert each coax run to ethernet. Plug all those ethernets and the modem/router LAN into the switch. You can still have your switch in the office and put switches in any other room where needed, daisy chaining switches is fine (to a point). To be clear, in this solution, each coax connects only to the MOCA adapter on each end. No splitters, no connectivity between the coax cables at all. They just become individual home runs, and only get connected together on the ethernet side of the adapters.
3. Try powerline adapters to do the same thing - hit or miss, probably about the same cost as MOCA and not as good performance/more problematic.

There are other options like wifi bridges or just using wifi, but we're talking about hardwiring so I'm not listing those as it sounds like you want hardwired?

Possibly some other options using a combination of MOCA and splitters and switches but need to know more specifics on your needs and wiring.

I'd also replace those Ideal splitters with good Extreme branded ones which are -3.5 per port on a 2 port splitter. They are cheap and readily available, Xfinity will give them to you (branded with their name but same thing). But if you do option 2 above, you really don't need a splitter anymore, just plug modem directly into the feed from outside.

The amplifier you are seeing could be for the antenna but it could also be from the cable company. It should say on it what it is for. I wouldn't try to use it regardless as they are only for one-way TV signals typically.

What is the POE filter for? Sounds like it is for that amp that is there probably, if it isn't needed, take it out of the line. Comcast hasn't run POE for quite some time but I guess your house could still have it, you'd know because you'd have a grey telephone box on the outside of your house and the cables would be labeled with a warning that they have power on them. Typically they put the POE filter on the outside of the house before it even comes inside. But you may want to check with them to be sure before removing it, it probably isn't hurting too much.

Thanks for the help Drinking bird.
Your help setting up option 2 would be preferred. I have 3 locations that are necessary for me ( office, family room tv, basement tv) the other rooms would just be future proofing for another owner but optional. 5 bedroom home.
I thought the POE filter was required to not let your moca network escape back into the cable company causing interference, but thats a novice trying to understand various forum posts. So its not necessary anymore with comcast internet?

So you are saying best option is 6 moca adapters?
all terminating from coax into ethernet into a switch connected to the modem in the control room?
would a power amplipher 8 way with one moca adapter to 3 at the other end work? I guess my thinking was that way is future proofing because if i needed to add another bedroom just add the moca adapter.

I purchased this home 4 years ago and have been renovating and updating everything.
I will attach links to photo to show this mess better. just trying to get consisten faster internet for streaming 4k .
back of device i think this was for his over the air antena. he was big into watching baseball in his basement bar in the 90's.
front of device
old phone lines
control space

lastly running ethernet is always preffered for the future but as DIY with some skills cant see how to run cable in a finished home to 5 bedrooms, 2 living rooms, and a finished basement. it would take serious wall fishing skills.

Brett Stimpson said:
its working, but is it correct?
Your topology sounds fine, is quite typical for a cable setup, pretty much matching the example diagram I like to throw about.

But the specific splitters used could use a rethink. I'd recommend swapping for splitters optimized for MoCA 2.x, especially the secondary splitter where port hopping would be more necessary. (You'd probably want to stick with the split-level splitter hierarchy at the central junction, so long as the cable Internet signal needs to be passed, to ensure the best possible signal is delivered to the cable modem.)

That said, if looking to rework your coax lines to optimize the setup, you might want to also consider, and possibly address, the encroachment of the DOCSIS spec into the MoCA [Band D] frequency range. (The conditional rationale for the "protective" MoCA filter in the above example diagram, an effective near-term workaround in most cases.) As for a longer-term solution, do you have just the one coax line between the central coax junction and your office? Ideally, the ISP/modem feed could be wholly isolated from the MoCA-infused coax, either by using a separate, isolated coax line, by moving the modem to where the isolation would be possible, or getting creative to find/create an alternate path (perhaps by borrowing a coax outlet on a shared wall in an adjacent room).


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[User]
Title: Help setting up a new MOCA network

Hi all, I am having some trouble setting up my first MOCA network. I recently purchased a pair of Actiontec ECB6200's (I'll get to this in a minute but it seems that they are ECB7250s) along with a Actiontec WCB6200Q. I live in an apartment, but I have a bundle of Coax in my bedroom closet that go to different rooms. I located the ones that traveled to the Office and Living room. My issue is, the two ECB6200's are communicating after some rebooting and trial and error, but the WCB won't play along with them. I can't even get it to connect in a closed loop.
I followed the directions for the wifi expansion, but it will not communicate over coax. What am I doing wrong?

Back to the ECB6200/7250. These were advertised and sold to me as ECB6200s on Amazon, but whenever I go to find the manual online the 6200 has two coax ports on it, where the 7250 looks exactly what I have in my hand. I looked closer, and it seems as if Screenbeam put a sticker over top of the Actiontec branding... and that my adapter is a 7250....

This might all be answered with "There is a splitter somewhere in your wall, dang that sucks" but I would like to know if anyone else has had this issue?
I am also struggling to understand where in my line I should put the filter.
I feel like there is something obvious I might be missing, but I am very much new to the small network world.

My current Setup is this:

ISP -> Spectrum Modem -> Wifi Router -> Moca ECB6200/7250 -> splitter that came with them -> Moca ECB6200/7250 in office
-> Moca WCB6200Q in Living Room

[Assistant]
scipio_ceasar said:
Hi all, I am having some trouble setting up my first MOCA network. I recently purchased a pair of Actiontec ECB6200's (I'll get to this in a minute but it seems that they are ECB7250s) along with a Actiontec WCB6200Q. I live in an apartment, but I have a bundle of Coax in my bedroom closet that go to different rooms. I located the ones that traveled to the Office and Living room. My issue is, the two ECB6200's are communicating after some rebooting and trial and error, but the WCB won't play along with them. I can't even get it to connect in a closed loop.
I followed the directions for the wifi expansion, but it will not communicate over coax. What am I doing wrong?

Back to the ECB6200/7250. These were advertised and sold to me as ECB6200s on Amazon, but whenever I go to find the manual online the 6200 has two coax ports on it, where the 7250 looks exactly what I have in my hand. I looked closer, and it seems as if Screenbeam put a sticker over top of the Actiontec branding... and that my adapter is a 7250....

This might all be answered with "There is a splitter somewhere in your wall, dang that sucks" but I would like to know if anyone else has had this issue?
I am also struggling to understand where in my line I should put the filter.
I feel like there is something obvious I might be missing, but I am very much new to the small network world.

My current Setup is this:

ISP -> Spectrum Modem -> Wifi Router -> Moca ECB6200/7250 -> splitter that came with them -> Moca ECB6200/7250 in office
-> Moca WCB6200Q in Living Room
Click to expand...

The ECB7250s are plug and play (and preferred for their 2.5GbE, imo)... if they work in the closed test loop, they should work with healthy coax segments. Integrating other MoCA adapters may require compatibility settings in their webUI(?)... or use matching adapters.

You place a MoCA filter wherever you want to stop MoCA signaling, such as escaping out your ISP cable to your neighbor.

Ideally, keep your ISP coax separate from your MoCA coax to avoid conflicts with DOCSIS signaling.

I recently added MoCA to my network.

OE

I’d recommend getting into the UI of the ECB6200/ECB7250 adapters to confirm their identity. ECB6200’s should be bonded MoCA 2.0 w/ 1.0 GbE network port; ECB7250’s are MoCA 2.5 w/ 2.5 GbE network ports. Not sure what the firmware revisions would be for each.

scipio_ceasar said:
I can't even get it (WCB6200Q) to connect in a closed loop.
As for your issue, that you can’t get the WCB6200Q connected would align with the other adapters being MoCA 2.5 ECB7250 models … as the bonded MoCA 2.0 WCB6200Q (based on Broadcom chip) has known compatibility issues with MoCA 2.5 nodes.

See: Verizon MoCA 2.x Compatibility and Performance Matrix

Assuming this is the issue, you’d need to replace the ECB7250’s with actual bonded (or non) MoCA 2.0 adapters, or front the WCB6200Q (or other WAP) with another MoCA 2.5 adapter.

scipio_ceasar said:
I am also struggling to understand where in my line I should put the filter.
…
My current Setup is this:

ISP -> Spectrum Modem -> Wifi Router -> Moca ECB6200/7250 -> splitter that came with them -> Moca ECB6200/7250 in office
-> Moca WCB6200Q in Living Room
Click to expand...

If the ISP/modem feed is wholly isolated from the coax lines interconnecting your MoCA nodes, you wouldn’t require a MoCA filter for securing your MoCA network; the ISP and modem can be direct-connected without any filters or splits, future-ready for DOCSIS 3.1*+.

That said, the “PoE” MoCA filter offers a reflective performance benefit that can still be of use for improving the MoCA network efficiency, depending on the topology chosen.


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[User]
Title: Frontier ONT using MoCA??

So I just had Frontier fiber installed today and after installing the ONT, the tech tapped into my existing coax line from my old cable internet provider and used it to carry the fiber signal to my router, then used an adapter to convert the coax signal to Ethernet. I told the tech I wanted to run cat 6 straight from the ONT to my router, which I had already ran, but he said he had to do it this way.

My question is, the ONT has 5 Ethernet ports, I've tried connecting to each one, but when I disconnect the coax, I lose my internet, it won't run strictly on the cat6 cable. Any thoughts?

[Assistant]
Call them to enable one of the Ethernet ports instead of the MoCA.

Or, try turning the ONT off, plug in the Ethernet cable and disconnect the MoCA cable, and turn it on after 10 minutes or longer.

L&LD said:
Call them to enable one of the Ethernet ports instead of the MoCA.

Or, try turning the ONT off, plug in the Ethernet cable and disconnect the MoCA cable, and turn it on after 10 minutes or longer.
I tried turning off and plugging in Ethernet...no go. I did read recently that you do have to call to enable Ethernet as the ONT can only support 1 at a time so I would have to have them disable the MoCA and enabled a port. Thanks for the info, I will call tomorrow and see how easy it will be.

JonnySteele said:
I will call tomorrow and see how easy it will be.
All good?


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[User]
Title: MOCA 2.0 speeds drop after installing Arris S33 modem

Setup:

I have a 1 GHz 2-way splitter (technically 5 to 1002 MHz) outside my home with a MOCA POE behind it. One one leg I have an Actiontec ECB6200 MOCA 2.0 bridge connected to an ASUS RT-AC3100 router which is connected to the modem. On the other leg, I have another 1 GHz 2-way splitter with one leg of that going to a TiVo Roamio and the other a TiVo Bolt. The bolt is acting as a MOCA 2.0 (non-bonded) bridge.

With this setup and my Netgear CM600 (Docsis 3.0) modem, speed tests done on the “TiVo” side of the MOCA bridge using both my MacBook Air and Apple TV 4K max out at about 475 mbps and are consistently above 430 mbps on the ATV using the Speedtest app which is more reliable for wired speed tests as it has an ethernet port.

I received an email from Comcast that the CM600 couldn’t give me the speeds I’m paying for (800 mbps) so based on some recommendations, I bought an Arris S33 (Docsis 3.1) to replace the CM600. Note that my area was updated to multigig speeds recently, but I don’t have that.

After hooking up the S33, the main thing I noticed is the MOCA speeds dropped to about 275 mbps or lower. This was fairly consistent. I tried replacing the entire setup on the TiVo side with another ECB6200, but the speeds actually dropped to 130 mbps on my MacBook Air (couldn’t test with the ATV at that point).

The MOCA network is running on what the TiVo reports as channel 15 and the ECB62000 reports as 1150 MHz. The S33’s OMFD frequency was 957 MHz. All other channels were below that. I wouldn’t think these would interfere, but they apparently do as when I swapped back to the CM600 my MOCA speeds returned to normal.

Any idea why my MOCA speeds drop so dramatically with the S33? Does the Docsis 3.1 (OMFD) frequency used my Comcast interfere with MOCA 2.0?

Some other oddities with the S33 that aren’t related to MOCA as far as I can tell and likely a Mac issue:

1. I connected my MacBook Air directly to the S33 with a USB-C to Ethernet adapter and couldn’t get speeds faster than about 133 mbps. Didn’t matter which modem port I used: 1 or 2.5 gbps. This made no sense since I could get faster speeds through my router, but I’ve had inconsistent speeds using the Mac for wired speed tests.

2. Connecting my MBA directly to the CM600 though gave me speeds around 450 mbps. Again not as fast as through the router, but faster than the S33.

3. Wi-Fi speeds seemed faster than LAN speeds with the MacBook Air in general for some reason.

[Assistant]
I confirmed the Mac speed test is hit or miss as I used the same usb-c to ethernet adapter with an iPad Pro and got 799 mbps when connected to my router. I got 487 mbps when using the tivo for MOCA. Swapping in a ECB6200 got me 780 mbps on speed tests on my Apple TV over MOCA.

That’s with the CM600. I need to try the S33 again, but since it affected the Apple TV speed test I assume it will still be an issue.

I tried the S33 again and this time everything worked as expected. I’m seeing MOCA speeds of 900 mbps Which I think maxes out my Internet connection. I have no idea what went wrong earlier.

there have been issues documented in the forums in the distant past about the boot order of moca devices sharing coax with dvrs, etc that also may use moca affecting the moca sync speed due to which device came up first. Don't know if that is your issue, but something to be aware of.


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[User]
Title: MoCA - Ethernet - PC works. MoCA - Ethernet - Switch - PC does not. Confused.

I have an odd problem. I've been using a MoCA network for over 6 months with no issues. In our basement we had a MoCA adapter going to a simple 8-port Dlink switch connected to several devices, and everything worked fine.

Something changed, now, if I plug the ethernet from the MoCA adapter in the basement directly into a PC, that PC grabs an IP, gets the internet, everything works fine.

If I take the same ethernet cable, plug it back into the switch, and plug the PC into the switch, the PC gets an IP address, but can't access the internet. I swapped out the switch (which works fine in another part of the house/network), still not working. I even replaced both ends of the MoCA network with new MoCA adapters (previously had an ISP supplied Actiontec EBC6200xx) and that hasn't changed anything. I've powered the whole network down, turned things on in order, I've even swapped routers.

I'm stumped.

Has anyone seen anything like this?

[Assistant]
Which components have you not substituted while trying to debug this? I'm suspicious of the cable from the switch to the PC, and maybe even the PC itself.

A month or two back I wasted much of a Saturday trying to debug a roughly comparable problem, and eventually realized I hadn't pushed the ethernet cable into the device's RJ45 jack hard enough to latch. So it worked for a little bit (long enough to grab a DHCP address) but not so much after I'd let go. Moral: doesn't hurt to question your own reconnection efforts along with the devices ...

Thanks for the reply!

I did need to question my troubleshooting efforts. It wasn't a cable, but a combination of powering everything down for a longer period of time as well as doing a full factory reset on the router. Whatever gremlin snuck in seems to have gone.

I think something was happening with dhcp leases and conflicting IP's.

I had a similar issue with my MoCA adapters and the DHCP server. It took me a while to figure it out. Our computers seemed to be connected to the network but were not accessing the internet. It seems like you've figured it out your issue by rebooting, which I initially did as well after a reboot, only for it to happen again.

So I will offer what ultimately helped me in case it happens to you again. Do you have a POE MoCA filter? I don't think you mentioned if you had this or not? it looks something like this:

Your ISP may have installed one on the coax cable to prevent signal leakage outside your property. It would be somewhere near the point of entry in your home.

Anyway, when I installed my MoCA adapters I just assumed I needed to move this filter to be on the coax cable closer to the coax point of entry than the MoCA adapter. This seemed ok for a time, but then I had issues with the DHCP and IP addresses. After some rearranging I realized I needed a second POE filter, near the router/modem of the second MoCA adapter.

I think the issue could be that your MoCA adapter is sending IP requests to the wrong DHCP server (maybe to your ISP modem?). At least that's what I think happened to me. The second POE filter helps to contain signals between the MoCA adapers and the designated DHCP server of your home router.

So bottom line, for me, I need two POE filters, one on the coax line between the first MoCA adapter and where the cable enters my property, the second on the coax line between the second MoCA adapter and the router/modem. Almost like bookends for the two adapters.

Not sure how clear that explanation is.


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[User]
Title: Mini review: Zyxel PLA6456 G.hn "2400 Mbps" powerline bridge

I just installed a pair of these powerline units, and since I don't see
much info about G.hn devices in this forum, I thought I'd pass on my
initial impressions.

Although I whined a few days ago about the lack of powerline gear that can
operate without mains power, I do have one place in my house where that's
not a problem: I have a pair of printers that are not close to any
ethernet jacks. If the power is out, so are the printers, so there's no
need for them to have a UPS-supported network connection. I've been using
a pair of old Apple Airports to bridge them to my house net, but I want to
retire that gear, so powerline seemed like an option to investigate. I've
been pleased with the Zyxel AP I got recently, so I thought I'd try their
offering in the powerline space. I got a pair of PLA6456 units from
Amazon for $70 plus tax, and plugged in one where the printers are and the
other into an outlet on the same circuit that is close to one of my
network switches.

These units are fairly large, about the same size as a standard dual wall
socket. They did manage to arrange it so the unit can cover just one
socket, letting you plug something else into the other socket --- but then
you'll need several inches clearance beside the socket for the unit's body
and the outgoing ethernet cable. In any case, you probably want to use
the unit's pass-through socket instead, as the manual claims that has
filtering to reduce electrical noise problems.

Setup is pretty much a breeze. All you really need to do is sync the
units to create an encrypted connection, by pressing their "ENCRYPT"
buttons within a minute or two of each other. However, each unit has an
http-accessible configuration page if you feel the need. I'd recommend at
least visiting it for long enough to change the factory-default password.
(A possible annoyance for non-techies is that the units initially get
their IP addresses from your DHCP server, so if you don't know how to look
at the DHCP server's leases then you'll not know which IP address to visit.)

The units boot impressively quickly, passing data less than ten seconds
after power is applied, which is a lot better than any wireless gear I've
used. After seeing that, I made a point of hand-assigning IP addresses to
them, because my DHCP server definitely doesn't boot that fast.

Performance is, well, a bit wonky. I initially got some very inconsistent
results with iperf3 tests, ranging all the way from 50 to 500 Mbps. The
only potentially performance-relevant setting I can find is the "G.hn
profile", which defaults to "PLC 100MHz MIMO Boost", but the manual
recommends changing to "PLC 100MHz Boost" if you have the things plugged
into ungrounded sockets. These sockets are grounded according to my
wiring tester, but nonetheless things got much more stable after I
switched to the latter setting. (It would astonish me not at all to learn
that the grounding is substandard; I live in an old house with a lot of
sketchy wiring.) I am now seeing fairly consistent iperf3 speeds of ~230
Mbps when sending data towards the printers, but rather less consistent
speeds, as low as 110 Mbps, in the other direction. Don't ask me why.
While these speeds are a lot less than what you might expect from the
advertised "2400 Mbps", they're plenty for my need; both printers have
only 100Mbps ethernet ports.

(I think that the "2400 Mbps" advertising-ese really means "1200 Mbps each
direction, full duplex". I did see the units reporting close to that PHY
rate initially, when I had them both plugged into one power strip for
configuration purposes. As-installed, the PHY rate is around 450 Mbps,
so getting half that in real-world throughput is roughly on par with
what you get from WiFi gear. Can't say if more modern electrical wiring
would have given me better results --- but I'm glad I'm not trying to
pass data across different circuits.)

Another thing that disturbed me initially was terrible-looking ping
statistics, along the lines of

rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 1.063/17.413/58.288/10.931 ms

However, closer inspection showed that when no other data is being passed,
the ping round-trip time cycles predictably between 32ms and ~1ms,
repeating over 20 seconds or so. Immediately after running an iperf3
test, it's close to 1ms and stays that way for 10 seconds before rising.
So I think the slow pings are from some weird power-save-while-idle
behavior that probably won't have much impact on real-world performance.

Bottom line is that I'm satisfied with my purchase. These units do what
I needed, and I'm not sure I could have gotten better results for $70
total with new WiFi gear. Plus I've removed one wireless net from my
immediate surroundings, which should help my primary wireless net at least a bit.

[Assistant]
Follow-up after having used these units for about three months ...

I'm less enthused about these than I was to start with. The main thing I've learned that I didn't know when I posted my previous review is that every so often, the G.hn link just freezes up and doesn't pass traffic for as much as 30 seconds at a time. I'm aware of this because I've been running routine ping monitoring from a central machine to both the far-end G.hn transceiver and one of the printers behind it, and I see the same response-time glitches at the same times in both of those test series. Weirdly, these episodes often don't involve any outright-dropped pings --- the packets come back eventually, just delayed by many seconds.

(The units do drop the occasional ping, about 0.05% of the time. That's a better stat than with the wireless link I was using before; but the worst-case round trip time is far worse.)

I can't say whether this is an inherent problem in G.hn, or a consequence of the admittedly-subpar wiring I'm running it through, or just a deficiency of these Zyxel units. But whatever the explanation, I'm starting to cast about for a different answer.

Interesting to hear about these units. Usually in powerline the 'latest and greatest' is literally the best to have, and I have several generation of powerline adapters from 500 onwards, but I used the original 85Mbs and 200Mbs ones too but they wouldn't connect at decent speeds in the application. Only years later did 500 work well enough and since then the newer standards have only improved on the bandwidth and latency.

However, I've also noticed that depending on the manufacturer, there can be oddball issues like this due to buggy firmware or bad design. I've been lucky enough that all of my units have not been those that have issues, but that's the first place I would look to solve your issue. A pair of 2000 TP-Links should be bulletproof in your application even if the bandiwidth is a bit less.

Samir said:
A pair of 2000 TP-Links should be bulletproof in your application even if the bandiwidth is a bit less.
Thanks for that suggestion. I tried a pair of TL-PA9020P adapters (currently $90 at Amazon), and so far I'm really pleased. I'm getting iperf3 rates repeatably around 470 Mbps both directions, as well as low and stable ping times (typically 3ms, very seldom more than 6ms, worst case seen so far 44ms). I've only had them in place for about 24 hours, so maybe some show-stopper issue will emerge, but performance-wise these are beating the pants off the G.hn units.

One thing not to like is TP-Link's configurator application: the Mac version, at least, demands an administrator name and password at start, and isn't even courteous enough to tell you why it needs that. Even on a machine that I only use for DMZ purposes, that seems like a bridge too far. But realistically I don't need to configure these at all --- just pushing the secure-network buttons is about all anyone would need. So the heck with it. I suppose someday I might have to bite that bullet to install a firmware update, but it doesn't look like TP-Link have ever issued such an update for these, anyway.


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[User]
Title: Understanding MoCA RX Dropped

Hi, my LAN seems to be working fine, but I just would like to understand what is causing RX Dropped packets in some of my MoCA devices. I'm curious, I know .

I have four GoCoax WF-803M. All of them have their TX Bad, TX Dropped and RX Bad statuses zeroed, but a couple of them show some RX Dropped packets (2nd floor and 3rd floor Room A). The other two show no RX Dropped at all (Basement and 3rd floor Room B). Coincidentally or not, both MoCA devices which have RX Dropped packets are the ones directly connect to an ASUS AiMesh Node.

Are these RX Dropped packets something I should worry about and investigate? Is there any explanation of why these dropped packages?

Basement

2nd Floor

3rd floor Room A

3rd Floor Room B

Thanks for the insights!

[Assistant]
probably not a concern. You might check the coax connections and reseat/tighten them.
17,000 in 50 million packets .


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[User]
Title: Powerline 1200 adapter connection issues

I am utilizing 3 Powerline 1200 plug in adapters with my ASUS mesh system 3 RT-AC68U routers with Starlink internet. My main router connected to Starlink is connected to my main mesh router via cat 6 cable and Powerline plug is connected to the main mesh router via cat 6 cable . I have 2 additional Powerline plugs for a desktop iMac and HP laptop the Powerline adapters leds are all green but, I cannot connect to internet both devices show “self assigned ip addresses” Wi-Fi connection works without an issue. My TV and Roku ultra connected are connected directly to main mesh router via cat 6 cable no issues have internet connection.

Not sure if, a router configuration has to be changed? I have tried setting up the manual IP address for each device and it will show connected on the device with the correct ip address but, no internet connection. Switch to Wi-Fi and no issues.

[Assistant]
Check to see if your Powerline adapters have energy saver/sleep mode settings...

I believe it does but, all three lights are green on all three powerline devices but, the network light does not flash when connected to the laptop or iMac desktop.

Which vendor is the homeplugs?

In any case, the Mesh point connections might be better over WiFi to be honest...


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[User]
Title: News ASUS Announces the MA-25 Coax-to-Ethernet MoCA Adapter

TAIPEI, Taiwan, August 15, 2022 — ASUS today announced the MA-25 Coax-to-Ethernet MoCA Adapter, a device that uses pre-existing coaxial wiring in the home to provide wired and wireless internet connections that are fast, stable and protected. The adapter enables wiring normally set aside for cable TV to be leveraged to build a fast and reliable MoCA network in locations with thick walls and multiple floors that may affect the performance of a purely wireless network.

With the MA-25, users can enjoy up to 2.5 Gbps wired backhaul connections, with an easy band-mode switch to avoid signal interference with DOCSIS 3.1 cable modems. The MoCA Protected Setup (MPS) feature lets users securely add devices to the network with the press of one button, similarly to how WPS is used with wireless networks. Gamers may also find that a MoCA network delivers reduced latency, faster downloads and fewer lag spikes.

Installation is designed to be easy, courtesy of a right-angled cable accessory that lets the user mount the MA-25 without needing to use any tools. The MA-25 also features four mounting holes for scenarios where reinforced installation may be desirable. And it can be connected to a nearby WiFi router to wirelessly extend a home network, eliminate dead zones and reduce the potential hassles of Ethernet cable management.

As part of a deep commitment to sustainability, ASUS has invested in green product R&D for many years, acquiring strict international certifications along the way for environmentally friendly practices. The exterior housing of the MA-25 is 69% post-consumer recycled plastic that provides strong signal protection, and the paper-based packaging is certified by the Forest Stewardship Council (FSC®). The box is also designed to double as a cable organizer, once its contents have been removed.

Source: https://www.asus.com/

[Assistant]
Nice. Now to find a “PoE” MoCA filter with matching stop- and pass-bands to allow use of the DOCSIS 3.1 (initial rollout) compatibility toggle switch, in “mode 1” operation.

Frequency range (per link)
Mode 1(4CH) : 1,275 ~ 1,675MHz
Mode 2(5CH) : 1,125 ~ 1,625MHz

TheLostSwede said:
ASUS today announced the MA-25 Coax-to-Ethernet MoCA Adapter,
Any word on availability … timing and/or regions?

krkaufman said:
Any word on availability … timing and/or regions?
Nothing like that was provided, but there are already similar products on sale on Amazon.


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[User]
Title: Recommend MoCA 2.5 4-port Splitter ?

I've just recived and tested screenbeam 2.5 MoCA adapters by connecting them using a coaxial cable and verified that the adapters do work. Currently, I have this setup which was leftover from my previous cable modem setup. However, now I currently have fiber FTTH and no longer use Coaxial setup. After hooking up the tested screenbeam MoCA 2.5 adapters both are using the latest firmware: 1.17.5 and HW: AM1 version.

My setup is as follows:
Coaxial In from external demarcation ----> MVRAM502B 4 port +1 VOIP https://www.antronix.com/datasheet?id=ds1195-ar-a01_mvram502b.pdf MoCA Residential Amplifier - 4 Port

1. Can someone please recommend me a reliable 4 port MoCA 2.5 compatible splinter?
2. What's the difference between active and passive MoCA splitters ?

Thank you in advance.

[Assistant]
For a 4-way MoCA splitter, the usual recommendation was the Holland Electronics MoCA GHS-4PRO-M. However, the Amphenol 4-Way Digital Coaxial Splitter MoCA 2.0 ABS314H is essentially the same, as they bought out Holland...
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08CRR5MPJ/?tag=snbforums-20

Don't forget to add a good POE filter to the input side of the splitter, preferably with about 70db rejection:
The Holland LPF-1002-70 MoCA POE Filter is still available on eBay:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/2738628519...tJXYRza0olPux3YNZGwlfUi58=|tkp:Bk9SR4SO0fiqYQ

or you could get the PPC Glp-1g70cw MoCA Poe Combo Wave Filter -70db
https://www.ebay.com/p/14040283508

And because of the problem with fakes on marketplace sites like amazon and ebay, I would recommend purchasing these items from a specialist retailer or electronics distributor like mouser or digikey.