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[User]
Title: other powerline adapter compatibility with D-Link AV2000 Powerline Adapters?

Hi,

I bought a set of D-Link AV 2000 powerline adapters a couple years ago for like $25 shipped. Now I need just one more to run out to my powered shed.

Are other D-Link powerline adapters compatible with these adapters? I believe that D-Link left this space a few years ago as these products are no longer supported but I just want one more powerline adapter so that I can run an outdoor AP to my shed.

Can anyone speak to the compatibility?

Thank you!

[Assistant]
Theoretically Homeplug devices from different manufactures are interoperable as they comply with a standard. So provided your new device is "HomePlug AV2" and supports MIMO you should be OK.

SmallNetBuilder's Powerline FAQ - 2015 - SmallNetBuilder
Check out our freshly-updated Powerline FAQ for all you need to know about how to use your home's power lines to get Ethernet anywhere there's an outlet!
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ColinTaylor said:
Theoretically Homeplug devices from different manufactures are interoperable as they comply with a standard. So provided your new device is "HomePlug AV2" and supports MIMO you should be OK.

SmallNetBuilder's Powerline FAQ - 2015 - SmallNetBuilder
Check out our freshly-updated Powerline FAQ for all you need to know about how to use your home's power lines to get Ethernet anywhere there's an outlet!
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Wow, you sure saved me some time and helped me avoid needing to hunt down old junk that costs more.

Thanks!

Heh, actually these adapters have really shot up in price.


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[User]
Title: Do I need a Moca POE filter in addition to a LTE filter?

Currently I am running Actiontec Moca 2.0 and OTA over the same coax.
I have both a Channel Master LTE filter and a Moca POE filter install between the antenna and the Moca segments.
The LTE blocks frequencies above 609 megahertz.

LTE/5G Filter
The Channel Master LTE Filter works with all TV antennas to remove growing LTE signal interference from the broadcast signal your antenna receives.
www.channelmaster.com

Do I actually need the POE filter?

[Assistant]
Not strictly for security or FCC compliance, since the LTE filter would seem to have the frequency range covered, but you’d want to check the specs of the LTE filter to confirm the attenuation/loss value.

That said, keeping the MoCA filter on the downstream side of the LTE filter might provide better MoCA performance over using just the LTE filter. (MoCA filters are designed to reflect MoCA signals.) Try both configurations and check MoCA stats (PHY rates and power levels)

do you have an amp at the antenna mast, between the antenna and the filters ?

Code:
Currently                                                                                -- Moca adapter
Antenna – LTE filter – amp – Moca filter – first splitter
                                                                                -- second splitter     -- Moca adapter
                                                                                -- Moca adapter


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[User]
Title: Powerline with WIFI

I have 2 sets of TP-Link Powerline adapters, the PA7017 and PA9020s. On the the same circuit I get 150Mbps with the 7017 and 250Mbps with the 9020. On opposite sides of the panel I get about 50 and 70 respectively. I replaced the 7017 with the 9020 for the AC port. The 7017 are OK with most conventional plugs, but not the 90 degree ones.

Satisfied with these, I now have a situation that I think a set of Powerline with Wifi could solve. I am looking for anyone willing to share recent experiences with these.

I will be happy with getting ~50 Mbps Wireless in the same room (ie 15-20 feet). Mostly a work Laptop running Wireless over VPN with MS Teams phones

[Assistant]
Could you please clarify what you are looking for? Product recommendation? Configuration advice?

I'm mostly looking for reviews on specific products in this class as to how well they perform. Config is not an issue.

We have an older Verizon 2.4 G N router (Actiontec MI424WR Rev 1). It's located about 40 feet from the home office on 75/75 service (grandfathered). Currently connecting in the teens for wireless which is problematic with video confernecing. We want to add what is in effect a wireless AP. Read a bit on DSL reports and this seems like a simple solution given the challenges of the Verizon environment.

Why not upgrade your router? You will see a significant difference with WiFi 5 or 6 gear.


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[User]
Title: Powerline G.hn vs AV2 discussions

Now that my both my sons have a computer but no ethernet cable in the walls and WiFi is not optimal in their room, I was looking at poweline adapters. It's at that moment I've leanred about the new G.hn specification which seems to be an improvement over AV2 but strangely enough this specification is not totally new (in fact it's even old but I never heard of it before looking for a powerline adapter) and popular companies like D-Link, TRENDnet, TP-Link, Netgear still don't offer G.hn adapters. Companies that offer G.hn are Zyxel, Comtrend and sister company Nexuslink.

No wonder it's hard to find a comparison between AV2 and G.hn powerline adapters. If anyone tested both I'd like to get your opinion. Even SNB don't have recent reviews about this. Is it because AV2 is cheaper and dominate the market?

[Assistant]
Look for reviews of the Devolo Magic (a family G.hn adapters from a German company). You wil find several comparisons with AV2 adapters. Probably still to expensive compared to their somehow slower AV2 cousins.

Tucu said:
Look for reviews of the Devolo Magic (a family G.hn adapters from a German company). You wil find several comparisons with AV2 adapters. Probably still to expensive compared to their somehow slower AV2 cousins.
I remember seeing those but could not find over here in Canada.

Powerline technology never really caught on in the US as a consumer networking product. It took too long to converge on one standard and the low-speed first generation version was too slow for too long.

G.hn was a late-comer to powerline networking and had an even smaller adoption.

Powerline and G.hn are mostly used in hospitality/campus applications, not consumer. They are niche technologies, like MoCA.


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[User]
Title: Hello everyone and thanks for the add. Im having MOCA 2.5 speed issues.

I'm having MOCA 2.5 speed issues at every endpoint of my coax.

1)I have 1 gigabit speed vz fios internet
2)rg6 coax
3)translite tl-mc84 2.5 adapter at each end
4) BAMF splitter 5-2300 mhz sb-2002
5) ideal 3 way 2 ghz splitter in the outside junction box
6) moca filter where service enters the house

I'm getting good internet speeds at the moca box that is close to my router 750-850 mbps. but its the end points at my coax where my other adapters are that i'm only getting 120-150 mbps.
what can be the issue with the slow speeds?

thx for any help.

[Assistant]
4) BAMF splitter 5-2300 mhz sb-2002
5) ideal 3 way 2 ghz splitter in the outside junction box
Neither of these splitters are optimized for MoCA. And though the BAMF product description may make the claim, it also says it's optimized for satellite -- and it can't be both.

Not that it's certainly your issue, but I'd look at replacing both splitters with known-good "designed for MoCA 2.x" splitters* ... as well as moving the "PoE" MoCA filter to the input of the top-level splitter, to maximize the performance benefit of the filter.

See here Re: splitters:

false advertisement i guess then https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0113JAN8K/?tag=snbforums-20

i bought the number 1 one to replace the splitter in my outdoor box

Best MoCA Splitter – Top Reviewed MoCA Splitters in 2023
when you use MoCA, you will also need a splitter to split a connection. There are many coax splitters in the market, of course, but what we are talking about is specific to MoCA
www.bestcablesplitter.com


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[User]
Title: Looking to expand ISP-installed ethernet over coax network; does this make sense?

Earlier this year, I finally switched from cable to fiber. My router is located a fair distance away from the demarc, and so previously the modem was located next to the router and connected through the coax in the walls. During the fiber install, the technician installed some sort of ethernet over coax system at both the demarc and the room where the router is. I'm not sure if it's MoCA or G.hn (or something else), since I was busy during the installation and didn't get the chance to take a closer look.

I'm looking at setting up an additional access point in the house, possibly using AiMesh (since my existing router is an Asus RT-AC68U), and would be contacting my ISP to get another EoC box installed in that room, which already has a coax jack. However, I'm not entirely sure if the potential network topology makes sense, so I want to get a bit of a sanity check from people with more experience. My connection is 600/400, so it seems like it should be fine to essentially have up to 2x the data running between the main router and the demarc. However, having the router not being the root of the network does seem potentially questionable. My other idea would be to buy a third router and put it at the demarc, and have that be the primary router with the other 2 being access points. However, the demarc is at the back corner of the basement where very few devices would ever be connecting to it, so this seems like a waste.

[Assistant]
You don't state your use case - Internet only, cable TV, or cable TV + Internet, etc.
Assuming Internet only -
i would put the main router at the demarc location and CAT6 cable between the demarc EOC and the main router WAN port. Then use whichever MOCA devices you like to extend the main router LAN connections to the other locations. If you have wired devices at your existing main router location and need wireless there, just repurpose a wireless router as an AP and use the lan connections (now a switch). Same for the other location.

This does several things - 1) isolates your MOCA network from any DOCCIS, if applicable, issues in the future and 2) gives you complete control over the coax, and 3) eliminates the doubling of traffic over the single coax segment. You can run MOCA2 bonded, turbo or MOCA 2.5 between the nodes in a physical star (no sharing, max throughput) or as a multipoint coax drop ( minimizes MOCA modems needed, shares entire coax layout across all users, shares total MOCA bandwidth). i would consider all MOCA2.5 devices for the latter case if you have really high bandwidth needs locally between users. Otherwise, MOCA 2 bonded, turbo should be fine for most internet use cases.

If you have to accomodate ISP TV set boxes, DVR, etc, then it is more complicated and for ease you may want to continue by adding ISP moca devices.

i would move the main router in either case to the demarc point. If you don't need wireless in the basement, either turn it off ( running three router / APs all the same device model) on the one or use a wired only router.

adueppen said:
During the fiber install, the technician installed some sort of ethernet over coax system at both the demarc and the room where the router is. I'm not sure if it's MoCA or G.hn (or something else), since I was busy during the installation and didn't get the chance to take a closer look.
I’d think this needs to be answered before pondering else.

Who’s your provider? And what devices (brand, model #) were used to effect the coax WAN connection between your ONT and router?

—-

Although… even though DOCSIS 3.1 and beyond won’t be an issue for your fiber install, locating the router where its WAN connection can be isolated from the LAN is sage advice, since the networks would be competing against each other for bandwidth on a shared coax line, best case. (So either relocating the router where it can be Ethernet-connected to the ONT … or … where the router’s coax WAN link isn’t required to share coax with the coax LAN.)

adueppen said:
My other idea would be to buy a third router and put it at the demarc, and have that be the primary router with the other 2 being access points. However, the demarc is at the back corner of the basement where very few devices would ever be connecting to it, so this seems like a waste.
This would get my vote, leaving your coax dedicated to whatever technology you prefer to get your LAN extended over the coax.


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[User]
Title: Setting up network with MOCA(newbie)

Hey guys!

So this will be my first post. I found out about this website after I moved out of my parents into my girlfriends house and have full control of the network , there is some AMAZING info here.

Now, onto the nitty gritty.

I live in a really old house. Lathe and Plaster walls, two prong power outlets, all that jazz.

The previous owners didn't get cable/internet until 2009, There is only ONE coaxial input in the entire house not connect to any splitters(maybe) whatsoever. I've traced the cable from the outside and it literally goes into one room(worst possible location too) and that's it

We just got Xfinity's 1200/35 internet package, They are sending a service technician to put two more coax jacks into the house for a total of 3 coax inputs. One will go into the office and the other in the living room. We have no TV service, don't need it with streaming services.

Current grocery list

ARRIS Surfboard S33 DOCSIS 3.1 Modem (bought)
ASUS RT-AX86U running Merlin (bought)
5 Port Unmanaged Switch (bought)
2 pack of Moca adapter (Brand TBD, will buy)
Another ASUS router to be used for AiMesh (will buy)
Moca friendly splitter(will buy)
POE filters (maybe Comcast service tech can do that?)

My goal is to wire as many static devices as I can and then use the AiMesh Technology to manage wifi devices.

So this is what I'm thinking.

Modem and Router will be in the office 2nd floor, I will have a Moca adapter connected in here through a coax splitter to the router. I then want to connect another moca adapter into the living room 1st floor to an unmanaged switch to connect all my devices in the entertainment center (Nvidia shield, PS4, etc), the original coax location I want to connect the other Moca to the router that will be used as a node to satisfy the wifi only devices that won't get good connection from the main router.

Is it as simple as I'm thinking? is there anything im missing that might make this not work? can you do a moca backhaul for AiMesh? I rather not do a wireless backhaul. Do you guys have any recommendations for good moca adapters? Am I in over my head?

I'm going to school for networking so I feel like this would be a good project for getting more experience to be used in the workforce. My future goals is to setup a network sever and attempt a local "cloud" backup solution like OneDrive

You guys are very informative here. Thanks for your time and happy holidays!

[Assistant]
Assuming you want to run at gigabit speed ISP service and full duplex gigabit speed on your LAN across MOCA using MOCA2.5 (2.5 Ghz ) adapters and since this is a new installation of coax -
1) Keep the coax that has the DOCCIS 3.1 signal to the ISP modem physically separate from the coax that has the MOCA signal.
If you do not, the MOCA2.5 modems will have to give up frequency bands and thus run at reduced speed.

2) either GOCOAX or Actiontec MOCA 2.5 modems seem to work well and are supported.

3) Wired backhaul over ethernet or MOCA2.5, given what you are facing with the walls and floors would be the best choice, if not the only workable choice for placing Wireless Access Points around the house. 5GHz signal will not penetrate very well and 2.4 GHz will be weak through plaster lathe walls. Plan on individual 5 GHz APs in rooms unless you have open doorways or line of sight to the AP. You don't need mesh, ,just APs with wired backhaul.

4) make a sketch of your physical planned coax layout and device placement, particularly any wireless APs.

5) there are a number of threads here describing using moca as well as simple ethernet to support AP distribution instead of relying on "mesh" marketing.

degrub said:
Assuming you want to run at gigabit speed ISP service and full duplex gigabit speed on your LAN across MOCA using MOCA2.5 (2.5 Ghz ) adapters and since this is a new installation of coax -
1) Keep the coax that has the DOCCIS 3.1 signal to the ISP modem physically separate from the coax that has the MOCA signal.
If you do not, the MOCA2.5 modems will have to give up frequency bands and thus run at reduced speed.

2) either GOCOAX or Actiontec MOCA 2.5 modems seem to work well and are supported.

3) Wired backhaul over ethernet or MOCA2.5, given what you are facing with the walls and floors would be the best choice, if not the only workable choice for placing Wireless Access Points around the house. 5GHz signal will not penetrate very well and 2.4 GHz will be weak through plaster lathe walls. Plan on individual 5 GHz APs in rooms unless you have open doorways or line of sight to the AP. You don't need mesh, ,just APs with wired backhaul.

4) make a sketch of your physical planned coax layout and device placement, particularly any wireless APs.

5) there are a number of threads here describing using moca as well as simple ethernet to support AP distribution instead of relying on "mesh" marketing.
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Thank you for your reply! just a little confused.

When you say physically separate, do you mean by getting a splitter, one goes into the modem, the other through a POE filter into the moca and then into the router? Is that what you mean?

I don't think i will do any wireless APs, i only need one AP for the downstairs, so i would probably go with a moca backhauled AP. I will definitely draw up a sketch and post again.

I will look through the forms more thoroughly for configuring a moca backhaul AP

Thanks!

DaBigMoe said:
Thank you for your reply! just a little confused.

When you say physically separate, do you mean by getting a splitter, one goes into the modem, the other through a POE filter into the moca and then into the router? Is that what you mean?

I don't think i will do any wireless APs, i only need one AP for the downstairs, so i would probably go with a moca backhauled AP. I will definitely draw up a sketch and post again.

I will look through the forms more thoroughly for configuring a moca backhaul AP

Thanks!
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Nope, physically disconnected from each other on the coax side.
Coax cable from isp demarcation to isp modem only. Ethernet cable from isp modem to your router wan port. Ethernet cable from your router lan port to ethernet port on moca modem. Moca modem connected to coax leading to all other locations in house. Can be through a moca2 splitter. At each other location, connect coax to “coax in” on each moca modem, ethernet out to switch or device. With this layout, no poe filter required and no concerns about losing bandwidth from doccis 3.1 band overlap.


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[User]
Title: Moca 2.5 - What would cause Rx Dropped Packets?

So i have 2xActiontec Moca 2.5 (w/true 2.5 GBe ethernet ports)) units (model #: ECB7250). Firmware version: 1.18.2.0.
One of my units, under Device Status has a section that shows "Ethernet RX" with "Rx Dropped" showing 1593 packets. Snapshot:

My other unit does not have any dropped packets under Tx nor Rx. What would cause these Rx Dropped to be > 0 for this 1 unit?

The unit wiht the Rx Dropped @ 1593 is shown above as Device "0". Not sure why 0->0 is 698 while device 1->1 is 701. I have read this is meaningless but i wish both were the same # (e.g. 701).

[Assistant]
Could be QOS... dropping packets is typical here in QOS depending on the traffic flows.

Note that you're seeing dropped packets, but they are not bad packets...

Much appreciated for the insight! I will look into QOS.


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[User]
Title: Stumped by simple MoCa setup

I have this very simple MoCA setup with 2 goCoax adapters that has been working fine for about a year.

Recently it stopped working. I was able to trace the issue down to the splitter in the line. When I replace the splitter with a coupler (taking cable out of the equation), the two MoCA adapters can see each other (screenshots of it working)

So I replaced the splitter with this:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0054EILOE/?tag=snbforums-20

The moment I replaced the splitter, I got the MoCA connection light without even power cycling anything, so I thought I figured it out! But then when I went to clean everything up and put all the adapters back out of sight in their various rooms in the house, after some unplug/replugging of cables and power, it stopped working and I have not been able to get it to work again. The only thing I can think of is that there is a specific channel where everything works together and it has nothing to do with the splitter but just which device boots in what order? It seems like I have some control over channels, but I don't know enough about MoCA to know if this theory even makes sense.

Thanks for any help in solving this puzzle.

[Assistant]
Do you have any DVRs or Cable TV on the coax ? Or is it just internet service ? Is their a MOCA light on the DOCCIS modem ? is it on ?

What you describe (boot order) has been found when other MOCA devices are present on the coax. That may also be a partial explanation for the low bandwidth you are seeing.

Otherwise, the Out to Out internal signal loss is probably too high (isolation) by design.. That looks like a straight splitter for signal distribution.
Get a Holland MOCA2 rated splitter, put a MOCA POE filter in the inlet to keep your MOCA signal inside ( and to improve the signal quality )

BTW, ~1700 is roughly half what it should be for MOCA2.5 between the modems. Do you have some cable/connector issues or other moca devices present ?

Usually, what i have seen with DOCCIS modems, is that you have to place a MOCA splitter ahead of the DOCCIS modem and the MOCA modem rather than as you show. You will still need the head in splitter (assuming you don't have another physical way to do the layout that would isolate the DOCCIS modem from the rest of the coax) and MOCA POE. If it is still working with the DOCCIS 3.0 modem, then you probably don't have any overlap of bands.

Look through the many threads here about dealing with DOCCIS modems. It gets more difficult if the ISP switches to DOCCIS 3.1 as you will loose bands.

No DVRS, no CableTV - it is just internet service and there is no MOCA light on the modem.

MOCA POE and MOCA rated splitter, I will definitely try that. I never even noticed the 1700 before today after reading other threads and seeing how much higher everyone else has. I'm starting to suspect a bad line outside my house that may just finally have reached the point where a signal can't be established.

amallah said:
When I replace the splitter with a coupler (taking cable out of the equation), the two MoCA adapters can see each other (screenshots of it working)

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If that’s working, it’s not working very well for a MoCA 2.5 connection. 5 channels bonded should have those 1700 figures upwards of 3500 (up to 700 Mbps PHY rate per channel x5).

It might be interesting to see what the adapters report if you directly connect them using a short coax cable. If they don’t report nearly 3500 Mbps in that table then there’s something wrong with one or both of the adapters or their power adapters. (Still, wouldn’t mean there aren’t improvements needed for your setup, starting with using actual MoCA 2.x-rated splitters — not just splitters spec’d above 2Ghz — and getting a “PoE” MoCA filter properly installed.)


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[User]
Title: MOCA behind Ethernet Switch

I have a simple question, yet one I have been unable to find an answer for. Can I run a Moca device behind my Ethernet switch. For example, Modem - Router - Ethernet Switch - Moca device. I want to use the Moca device as a backhaul for my mesh network to my bedroom upstairs, because I only have one port off the router, so off the switch is the only option I have. Thanks in advance.

[Assistant] Yep, most definitely. The main bridging MoCA adapter just needs to be connected via its Ethernet port to the router's LAN, either directly or via a network switch, ideally a GigE switch.


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[User]
Title: PPC MoCA 5-Port Active Return Splitter PPC-5M-U/U?

Thinking about rewiring the coax that's accessible in the unfinished part of my basement. It's all RG-59 and I'm thinking to replace with RG-6. I'm currently using MoCA 2.5 with a 4-way passive MoCA splitter. I'm thinking to eliminate a daisy-chain setup consisting of 2-way splitter in a junction box and run both wires direct to the main splitter. That means I'd need to change to a 5-way. They seem very rare, I can only find 6-way passive MoCA splitters with 10-10.5dB drop.

If found this thing for sale in many places: https://www.ppc-online.com/product-search/amp-splitter-ppc-5m-u-u

It's advertised as being upstream/downstream unity gain. Do they actually work? What are the pros and cons?

Cheapest option is just to go with a cheapo 2-way splitter (which I own plenty) and run that to 2 rooms where I don't have MoCA endpoints so that it would end up 11dB x2 and 7dB x3 to the 3 rooms that do.

[Assistant]
Is this for TV or data?

Why not simply go for Ethernet cable if the latter?

L&LD said:
Is this for TV or data?

Why not simply go for Ethernet cable if the latter?

Yeah, that just occurred to me late last night hours after writing that post, lol!

I was originally using MoCA for all my HTPCs (3 of them), 2 of the 3 endpoints are unreachable (they are in fully finished rooms), so I was thinking about this from the mindset that I still need MoCA. However, I've since decommissioned my HTPCs in favor of streaming devices as I learned they do everything my HTPCs can do, and more, but at a fraction of the cost and electricity. Those are wifi-only so can't take advantage of MoCA.
Realizing that the only PCs I have left can be accessed from the unfinished part of my basement, it definitely makes more sense to run CAT6 instead of replacing RG59 with RG6.

You can use moca to site additional APs where you need them.


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[User]
Title: Better throughput and how does homeplug actually work??

Hi!
I'm looking to gain some speed in my homeplug network. I only use homeplug as a means to get a cabled connection to my TV and Apple TV which both reside in an area where I can't run a proper twisted pair ethernet cable. Oh yes and for my heat pump but the bandwidth demands of that device are miniscule .

I'm using Devolo DLAN 1200 products but I'm only getting some 200/80mbit to the TV but 400/300mbit to the heat pump which is much closer to the adapter connected to my router.

Devolo has a product that connects in your electrical junction box. Brilliant! You can't get any closer to all adapters than to be right in the middle. So I'm thinking I should get me one of those. BUT I can't get an ethernet cable to the junction box either and the way I understand it this adapter is meant to be the "primary" one.
Link: https://www.devolo.global/dlan-pro-1200-dinrail-bs

So my question now is if I'd see a higher throughput between my router connected homeplug adapter and the TV one if I had one of those junction connected adapters in the middle?

I've read through all the standards and white papers on homeplug networking but I can't seem to work out what the topology actually looks like. Does all traffic go through one central node like a switch or a router or does it work more like a wifi network where all nodes receive all signals and the one it is addressed to pick it up and the rest disgard it?

Thanks,
Kent

[Assistant]
Are you looking for a problem to solve or is the existing working well enough ?

What's your wifi situation? Would a media bridge solution be feasible as it would potentially give you better throughput.

degrub said:
Are you looking for a problem to solve or is the existing working well enough ?
Seems like they’d like better speeds to the TV (and consistency across all segments).

kentclar said:
I'm using Devolo DLAN 1200 products but I'm only getting some 200/80mbit to the TV but 400/300mbit to the heat pump which is much closer to the adapter connected to my router.


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[User]
Title: MOCA Network Issue

Having an issue with trying to setup MOCA network in house. I have one coax outlet that will not work with a splitter. If I connect the MOCA adapter directly to the outlet, I get connection without issue. If I introduce a splitter, then the adapter does not get a connection. I have used different cables from the wall and different splitters but same result. Also, I have tested the same cables and splitters with other outlets and they work fine. Any ideas on how to resolve or how to troubleshoot further? Thanks!

[Assistant]
Without seeing a detailed sketch of your coax network and devices (with model #s), it sounds like either 1) incompatible splitter, 2) too much signal loss for the moca amp to overcome, or 3) possibly a poorly terminated cable.

moca 1, 2, or 2.5 ?
RG59 or RG6 ?
Login to the modem and look at the signal power versus power budget to see how much power is being used versus available. Do this without the splitter inline. Do again with the splitter in line.
What is the brand and model number of the splitter ?

Moca 2.5. The adapters are Gocoax - just got them. I have 2 different splitters and they work on any other coax outlet in the house except this one so I know the splitters are good. I have checked the cable connection to the wall outlet and it is tight. Also, if I use the adapter without a splitter on this particular outlet, it works just fine. Just does not work when a splitter is introduced. Not sure I know where to see signal power vs power budget in the adapter - what is an example? What if power is too low - do I need to get some sort of amplifier? Thanks.

Check over in the GOCoax threads.

Each connection on coax introduces about 3dB of signal loss. It can be much higher with a splitter - either balanced or unbalanced types. Typical 2-way splitters introduce about 3.5 dB of loss. If ALL of the splitters in the cable plant are not designed and rated for MOCA 2 specifically, the loss may be too high. If there is any damage to a cable within the wall or elsewhere, the signal to noise ratio can be reduced. The combination comes into play for making sync. Typical budget on a moca modem as about 40 dB if i remember correctly. Look for Kaufman's posts as he has more engineering data there.

If you have a central bi-drectional splitter/amp there may be too many connections and cable distance betwenn the two moca nodes for the MOCA modem amp to overcome. That is why this specific drop may not be able to reach the other modem and sync. It is the path length and signal loss between each node that determines.

if the in wall cabling is RG59, that will also affect the issue. RG6 is preferred and is what MOCA 2 was designed for.

A sketch, as requested earlier, can help us figure out the issue and offer suggestions. If you have a central splitter/amp, you may need to replace it or rearrange the connections to get a lower loss path to this location.


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[User]
Title: Trying to understand a little about MOCA

My internet service is provided by Frontier with an ONT in the garage feeding the coax system in my house. I have the Frontier supplied router feeding my own ASUS wireless router. I have also been using an older generation MOCA adapter in my office straight from the wall to my PC with no problems. I wanted to eliminate the "I believe" redundant router from Frontier by just replacing it with another MOCA adapter. I have purchased 2 GoCoax 2.5 MOCA adapters to use. I am unable to get it to work, so I think I am misunderstanding something. All the diagrams I find still contain the provider router (see picture below) and I don't know why. I have disabled all wireless functionality from that router and I thought it was just acting as a MOCA adapter for my ASUS router. Is it actually doing something else that is required by the network? Should I be able to replace the router with an adapter? Basically, I would like to have the setup be like the picture below with the ISP MI424W removed.

I was able to replace the older generation adapter in my office with one of the Gocoax adapters and it functions fine. However, when I follow the instructions to set my PC IP address to 192.168.254.254 to get to the adapter settings, that kills the internet link. I have to change it back to "obtain IP automatically" to get the internet working again. I just wanted to also confirm this is correct. Thank you for your help.

[Assistant]
Briefly, if your Frontier router is the MI424-WR, then the MoCA WAN is achieved via a MoCA Band C network between the ONT and MI424-WR, leaving all of MoCA Band D to MoCA LAN use.

Assuming the only benefit of the MI424-WR is the MoCA WAN link to the ONT, your simplest solution would be to replace the MI424-WR with an Arris MEB1100, a special MoCA adapter that only supports the necessary Band C MoCA WAN connection. (Frontier may be able to provide you with one, per this page; else, see eBay)

p.s. Keep in mind that the Band C MoCA WAN supported by both the MI424-WR and MEB1100 would be capped at under 150 Mbps, the limit for a MoCA 1.1 network.

nakedbamboo said:
when I follow the instructions to set my PC IP address to 192.168.254.254 to get to the adapter settings, that kills the internet link.
To be expected, as you’re reconfiguring the PC from the settings needed to communicate on/over your LAN to values strictly for communicating directly with a single MoCA adapter.

What you’ll want to do is temporarily tweak your PC’s settings to access each MoCA adapter’s configuration UI, in order to configure each adapter with unique IP settings compatible with your LAN, either DHCP-assigned or static. Once the MoCA adapters have been reconfigured for your LAN, you can reset your PC to its original LAN settings and it should then be able to communicate directly with each adapter over the LAN, using each adapter’s newly assigned unique LAN IP address.

I just upgraded or returned to Frontier FIOS. The installation from the ONT to the copper coax used a FCA 251 MoCA adapter to my AC1900 Smart WiFi Router. It works fine at the router location. We tried my existing MoCA adapters Hitron HT-EM4 but it did not work. The installer said that Frontier adapter was tuned to the FIOS net work???? The reason for my post is that the wireless network from the AC1900 is a bit weak in my house. I would like to re-establish my MoCA network in my bedroom and study (computer room). Do I need to buy the Frontier MoCA adapters and use a splitter before the router?


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[User]
Title: powerline charts and possible error

Hi there,

I was browsing the powerline charts to assess the performance margins of Homeplug AV2 MIMO over HomePlug AV2 SISO devices.

I noticed that the "TP-LINK (TL-PA6010KIT)" is listed as AV2 SISO.

However, when I opened the official link on TP-Link's own website, this model is listed as HomePlug AV only, not AV2.

Wanted to raise this here, to better understand if there was an error somewhere.

Thanks

[Assistant]
In general, powerline technology nomenclature has been a mess. This article explains how I designated the technology used in the products.
SmallNetBuilder's Powerline FAQ - 2015 - SmallNetBuilder
Check out our freshly-updated Powerline FAQ for all you need to know about how to use your home's power lines to get Ethernet anywhere there's an outlet!
www.smallnetbuilder.com

alright thanks tim.

in my environment, I have found some success in deploying these where cabling was not possible.
Especially with AV2, (as you mentioned in the write-up above) transfer speeds are a lot more respectable and they seem to be pretty stable too.

powerleakin said:
alright thanks tim.

in my environment, I have found some success in deploying these where cabling was not possible.
Especially with AV2, (as you mentioned in the write-up above) transfer speeds are a lot more respectable and they seem to be pretty stable too.
I'm glad powerline is working for you. The technology never got much of a foothold in the U.S. There were competing standards for too long and that prevented advancement in speed. Wi-Fi just blew it away.

Powerline has been more successful in Europe where building construction (stone) is much less Wi-Fi friendly.


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[User]
Title: goCoax MoCA 2.5 adapter

Thanks for the support from customer, we opened the Amazon store. Please check.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07XYDG7WN/?tag=snbforums-20
Also we want to release a new firmware this month.
We want to provide more technical supports to the users. If you have any question, you can reply this message or write email to us. sales@gocoax.com

[Assistant]
Just curious, any release notes for the new firmware?

A silly question maybe, but does it matter what length of RG6 coax cable I use? I'm planning to use a short 3' cable to hook up the GoCoax adapter to wall jack.

JohnEnglish said:
A silly question maybe, but does it matter what length of RG6 coax cable I use? I'm planning to use a short 3' cable to hook up the GoCoax adapter to wall jack.
You can use a very long RG6 coax, because the cable has very limited attenuation. 3' is defiantly not an issue.


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[User]
Title: Best MoCa/DeCa adapters for RG-59 cables? (re: no cable tv/satellite)

My home is unfortunately wired using RG-59 (instead of RG-6) cables but I'd like to extend the network to the second floor. I've tried using wireless but it's not stable enough and I'd prefer a hard-wired connection.

I don't have any cable television or satellite so my RG-59 cables are completely free/empty. MoCa uses higher frequencies (1125 - 1525/1675) which isn't ideal for RG-59. However, DeCa seems to use lower frequency (400/650 - 700/875).

Can anybody give me a recommendation on what I should use to extend my network using the RG-59 coax?

[Assistant]
sofakng said:
My home is unfortunately wired using RG-59 (instead of RG-6) cables but I'd like to extend the network to the second floor. I've tried using wireless but it's not stable enough and I'd prefer a hard-wired connection.

I don't have any cable television or satellite so my RG-59 cables are completely free/empty. MoCa uses higher frequencies (1125 - 1525/1675) which isn't ideal for RG-59. However, DeCa seems to use lower frequency (400/650 - 700/875).

Can anybody give me a recommendation on what I should use to extend my network using the RG-59 coax?
Click to expand...
Given the typical coax lengths encountered in a home environment, Moca should operate thru RG-59. Deca adapters are limited to 100Mbps while Moca has a capability of 1Gbps (your mileage will vary). You can improve the network by connecting the two Moca devices over a direct coax cable, replacing any splitters with a feed thru coupler.

make sure all the splitters and network devices are MOCA2 certified. See the threads here.

Also if this is an old RG-59 installation be sure all the connectors are good, tight and corrosion free. Replace any crimped on connectors with compression fittings.


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[User]
Title: Having trouble with gocoax MA2500D and network switch

Hi all.

I'm having issues connecting to anything when i introduce a switch into the equation with my moca network. I have a pair of MA2500D's, I get a good connection and everything works normally without the switch, my setup is as follows:

1. cable from outside > ISP's router in modem mode > RT-AC86U running Merlin.
2. RT-AC86U - Ethernet > MA2500D (Master) - coax > MA2500D (living room) - etherner > devices / switch
I am almost 100% sure that the coax connection between the two Moca devices is solely within my house (doesn't connect to the outside world at all), it's possible that there is a splitter at some point but i don't think that's the case based on what the previous homeowner has told me.

with 1 device connected in the living room and plugged directly into the MA2500D (e.g, XSX, PS5, Nvidia shield and TV) I get an immediate, stable and high speed connection. When i introduce a switch ( TP-Link TL-SG105S) inbetween the Moca device and end device though, I cannot get a connection.

I've tried a number of things to try and remedy this.

1. I've moved the moca devices off their own subnet and switched them to DHCP while giving them static IP's on my network.
2. I've tested the switch, and cables independently to make sure that they all work outside of this setup (they do)
3. I've given all of my devices mentioned static IP addresses as I thought maybe a DHCP request was not making it's way through somehow (a suggestion taken from one of the threads i read here in the forum).

But none of these have helped. Is it possible that there is a step I'm missing? Is there any advice on things I can try or troubleshooting steps I can take to figure out the source of the problem?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

[Assistant]
Consider my face suitably egged.

It turns out that even if your switch was working and tested last week, there's no guarantee that it works today.

The issue was the switch, this has been replaced and everything is up and running now.

Sorry for the wasted posts!


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[User]
Title: Discussion about MoCA 2.5 adapter with 2.5GbE Ethernet port

We found many people asking for the MoCA 2.5 adapter with 2.5Gbps Ethernet port. Perhaps it is because MoCA2.5 emphasizes that it can support 2.5Gbps bandwidth.
Today let me do more introduction about the MoCA bandwidth, and try to find out can we benefit from 2.5GbE Ethernet port.
1, MoCA bandwidth is shared by TDM.
Because coaxial cable only has one circuit, so MoCA is not a full-duplex system. it is a help-duplex system. If one node talks to another one node, the others must wait. The bandwidth is allocated by TDM mode.
2, MoCA bandwidth is shared by all the MoCA devices in the same network.
All the MoCA devices are connected to the same coaxial network, so they share the total MoCA bandwidth, about 2.5Gbps for MoCA 2.5. For example, there are 4 nodes in the same network, suppose all them have 2.5GbE port. if A to B is using 1Gbps bandwidth, then C to D only can use 1.5Gbps bandwidth.
3, Not all the packet length can get 2.5Gbps
Only large packets the length is more than 1000Bytes can get 2.5Gbps. the small packets get a much lower bandwidth, for example, 64Bytes packet only get about 250Mbps. The longer packet size, the higher bandwidth. Don't worry, for most Internet service, such as web suffering, watching video and gaming, we are using large packets only.
4, In fact, MoCA 2.5 can achieve about 3Gbps bandwidth.
If you can test the MoCA 2.5 adapters with professional test equipment, you can find with packet size over 1280 bytes, you can get more 3Gbps bandwidth.
I attached our report for your reference.

Any discussion is welcome.

[Assistant]
gocoax said:
try to find out can we benefit from 2.5GbE Ethernet port.
At a minimum, having MoCA 2.5 adapters with a 2.5GbE port would be beneficial to those setups requiring a repeater configuration, ensuring the throughput between two MoCA 2.5 segments wouldn’t be throttled by their Ethernet connection.

example (borrowing from the “MoCA best practices” document):

Oh, the goCoax MA2500D adapter is now available for purchase, at $75 per:
https://www.gocoax.com/product-page/ma2500d
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08XP8MMFG/

I'm glad to see that 2.5Gbe phy hardware and demand has increased to the point a product with a 2.5Gb port is viable. For a point to point link where moca is being used, this more than doubles the amount of available bandwidth, which will vastly increases the potential speeds for such a link.

I have noticed that gocoax has some competition in the 2.5Gbps moca adapter space after being the only retail one available--specifically from translite and actiontec. How is your product superior to theirs, and what can we expect for the next evolution of Moca?


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[User]
Title: Help Frontier MoCA WF-803FT

I bought 2 Frontier WF-803FT adapters several days ago and can’t get them to work. I replaced an Antronix 5-1002 mhz splitter. I bought a Holland MPOE-TM filter and two BAMF Brand Coax Cable Splitters Bi-Directional MoCA 5-2300MHz rated(a 4-Way and a 2-way). Spectrum requires me to use their cable modem, Technicolor TC8717T with it’s, wireless turned off. My own TP-link A2300 wireless router WAN port is connected to TC8717. The coax cable enters the house in the basement, connects to Holland POE filter, connects to BAMF 4-WAY splitter, connects by coax into Den room(1st floor) wall jack. Coax from wall to 2-way splitter. One coax goes to the TC8717, and one to WF-803FT. The power light is on and the ETH light blinks. I've tried Ethernet cable from WF-803FT to both the Tp-link A2300 and TC8717 LAN ports on modem and no go. The other WF-803FT is in next door room(1st floor) which has a coax cable from the first 4-way splitter. That adapter goes to a ROKU with Ethernet which is connected to a TV by HDMI. I also tried each of the FULL, LAN, and WAN switch positions on the WF-803.

More info. The Spectrum modem has what looks like an LED for a MoCa signal on back of modem, but it is not lit, and from my talk with Spectrum support is not supported. I only have Internet with Spectrum, and stream SlingTV, and OTA. I have a Tablo device connected to indoor antenna which sends OTA signal to the A2300 thru an Ethernet cable. The signal is sent to another room thru a TP-link powerline adapter. Problem is it’s slow and drops.

What should I do? Did I buy the wrong adapters? Any help, much appreciated.

[Assistant]
1) sketch the cable layout with all devices identified with model # and connections
2) did you test the two moca modems by connecting them together with a short coax and power to see if they sync ?
3) there are a couple posts here about using these modems that should be helpful. You may want to log in to the modem and post what status it has.

wary99 said:
The power light is on and the ETH light blinks
First, set both WF-803FT (FCA251) adapters to the "Full" toggle position and then connect them to each other using a short coax cable. Power them up and then give them a few minutes... and see if the MoCA/coax status light eventually lights-up.


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[User]
Title: PoE for DOCSIS 3.1 (Xfinity)

Ugh, so Xfinity went and started using spectrum above 1GHz in my area. After an upgrade to their equipment, my CM1150V shows the start of the downstream OFDM channel at 955MHz, which means the top is at around 1150MHz I've configured my goCoax to give me 4 channels starting at 1250, so no problem there...the issue is that my PoE filter is now blocking a good chunk of the downstream OFDM. I only have 400Mbps service and still get that, but I do get a blinking downlink light on the cable modem (which indicates "partial service"). I suppose I could try removing the PoE filter and see what happens, but don't think that's viable long term.

Has anyone seen any new PoE filters that work for the newer DOCSIS frequencies? I know @krkaufman has posted a link to a Lindsay Broadband filter (here), but that seems to be a standard 5-1002MHz pass band.

Sure wish they hadn't neutered the spectrum analyzer on my modem

[Assistant]
Have a look at the following Lindsay Broadband MoCA POE filters.

https://www.lindsaybb.com/assets/lbmlpf-1.2-ghz.pdf

Don't know why that POE filter has a spec sheet but doesn't show up in the products page.

Other Lindsay Broadband 1.2 Ghz filters, shown as suitable for MoCA ops:

https://lindsaybb.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/LBB0129_LowPass_filter_LPF700AS_dsheet.pdf

https://www.lindsaybb.com/assets/low-pass-filter-specification.pdf

Here's the link to the Lindsay Broadband filter page:

1.2 GHz High- & Low-Pass Filters (HPF / LPF) - Lindsay Broadband
A variety of filters are available to suit your needs in bandwidths up to 1.2 GHz. Their compact size delivers large performance with minimal insertion loss, maximum return loss, and […]
lindsaybb.com

Datalink said:
Have a look at the following Lindsay Broadband MoCA POE filters.

https://www.lindsaybb.com/assets/lbmlpf-1.2-ghz.pdf

Don't know why that POE filter has a spec sheet but doesn't show up in the products page.

thanks! How did you ever find that on their site? Now to see if I can actually get my hands on one

splunge2020 said:
Ugh, so Xfinity went and started using spectrum above 1GHz in my area. After an upgrade to their equipment, my CM1150V shows the start of the downstream OFDM channel at 955MHz, which means the top is at around 1150MHz I've configured my goCoax to give me 4 channels starting at 1250, so no problem there...the issue is that my PoE filter is now blocking a good chunk of the downstream OFDM. I only have 400Mbps service and still get that, but I do get a blinking downlink light on the cable modem (which indicates "partial service"). I suppose I could try removing the PoE filter and see what happens, but don't think that's viable long term.

Has anyone seen any new PoE filters that work for the newer DOCSIS frequencies? I know has posted a link to a Lindsay Broadband filter (), but that seems to be a standard 5-1002MHz pass band.

Sure wish they hadn't neutered the spectrum analyzer on my modem
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When Xfinity installed my setup, they installed their own filter.


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[User]
Title: MoCA Compatibility question

Quick & easy question / I bought this then realized there are MoCA standards for such items (yes am new ) / is this gonna be ok to be used in my MoCA home deployment? Using ActionTec devices to pass networth over coax.

Item in question: https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B0077QMDGY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Frequency range seems ok, known brand name. Want to make sure I don't break things!

Thanks!

[Assistant]
i could not find the specs for signal pass between the output ports which is required for MOCA compatibility. It looks like a splitter only which would block signal between the output ports.
You can try it, but make sure you can return with no penalty. Otherwise, get a device that specifically is designed and rated for MOCA 2.


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[User]
Title: HomePlug Blocking Device

Is there a device that can be installed that would completely block a HomePlug network from propagating? Searching for HomePlug filters just comes up with filters to filter out noise not to filter out the actual signal.

Thanks,
Harry

[Assistant]
Not really sure what you are asking here. More information is definitely needed if you want a better answer.

If I am guessing correctly, you have 2 devices and want to block additional devices from being added? If so, depending on the brand, model and firmware version, there should be security within the device or software to restrict this. Although, with physical access all you have to do is press a button on one of the existing devices to add a new one to the network.


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[User]
Title: HDTV Antenna and Moca network?

Hi,

I've one HDTV Antenna hooked up to a TV directly. I would like to route the antenna signal across the coax and I've Moca adapters installed. Is it possible to distributes the signal using Moca network or is there any other option available?

Thanks

[Assistant]
snbdora said:
I've one HDTV Antenna hooked up to a TV directly. I would like to route the antenna signal across the coax and I've Moca adapters installed. Is it possible to distributes the signal using Moca network or is there any other option available?
Can you be more specific as to the brand/model of your MoCA adapters (to determine the MoCA spec in-use)? Is MoCA the only signal present on the coax (i.e. no cable signal)?

The raw OTA antenna signal wouldn't be transmitted via MoCA, but MoCA was designed to share coax with OTA or cable signals (one or the other, of course, since OTA and cable use overlapping frequencies and so cannot coexist on a coax segment).

Consider the frequencies used:

OTA: 54-806 MHz (lower top-end, actually, nowadays)
Cable: 5-1002 MHz
MoCA (Band D)*: 1125-1675 MHz

So OTA signals could share a coax segment with MoCA (Band D) gear ... assuming no cable signals are present on the coax.

* Most retail MoCA gear operates in MoCA band D, designed for use with cable or OTA setups. DirecTV markets their own MoCA gear, using MoCA band E frequencies -- which overlap OTA and cable TV frequencies and so prevent use of this gear on coax carrying either OTA or cable signals.

snbdora said:
Is it possible to distributes the signal using Moca network or is there any other option available?
p.s. As an aside, whole home DVR setups such as TiVo transmit tuned video content between a host DVR and client boxes over the home network via MoCA, but these setups are simply streaming video over the home network, not sending the raw OTA/cable signal to each separate box.

you may have to amplify your HDTV antenna signal before the first MOCA adapter depending on the number of cable connections. If it works today, you will loose 3dB typically at the connection into the MOCA adapter.


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[User]
Title: MOCA and OTA -- can both be run over same cable? are filters needed

Newbie poster here. with a question on how to make MOCA and OTA antenna work togehter using same whole-house coax wiring

To complete our recent cord cutting from cable TV, I need to add an OTA antenna in my attic. Currently my internet comes from the FIOS box on ethernet to my main router. From my main router I connect via MOCA to an Actiontec WCB6200Q extender in a remote part of the house -- this seems to work very well. Note that both the main modem and the Actiontec extender are both on segments of the whole hose coax cabling that are connected to the "output side of the whole-house splitter in the main panel where all of the coax runs in the house come together.

I plan to connect my antenna in my attic via a currently unused coax segment that also runs to the box. Finally, the ActionTEC extender sits right next to the TV that I want to hook up to the OTA antenna. THis leads me to the following questions:

1. Will the OTA antenna interfere with the MOCA extender or vice-versa?
2. Right now, all of the coax segments in my house terminate on the output side of the whole house splitter. THe only thing on the input side is the cable from FIOS, which is no longer in use. Am I better off just leaving it this way, or should I use a combiner or diplexer to join the segments that will run from the new OTA and the MOCA connection on the main router? If the latter, should I put them on the input side of the whole house splitter? What specific devices would work best?
3. Finally my primary TV and the MOCA extender are co-located at the end of one coax segment. Do I need anything beyond a simple splitter to provide MOCA to the extender and and OTA signals to the TV? If so, what specific devices are needed/recommended?

Thanks in advance to anyone who has guidance to offer. My autistic son, who is addicted to Wheel of Fortune, which is unfortunately very difficult to stream, will be especially grateful if I, with your help, can figure this out.

Howard

[Assistant]
Howard G. said:
Newbie poster here. with a question on how to make MOCA and OTA antenna work togehter using same whole-house coax wiring

To complete our recent cord cutting from cable TV, I need to add an OTA antenna in my attic. Currently my internet comes from the FIOS box on ethernet to my main router. From my main router I connect via MOCA to an Actiontec WCB6200Q extender in a remote part of the house -- this seems to work very well. Note that both the main modem and the Actiontec extender are both on segments of the whole hose coax cabling that are connected to the "output side of the whole-house splitter in the main panel where all of the coax runs in the house come together.

I plan to connect my antenna in my attic via a currently unused coax segment that also runs to the box. Finally, the ActionTEC extender sits right next to the TV that I want to hook up to the OTA antenna. THis leads me to the following questions:

1. Will the OTA antenna interfere with the MOCA extender or vice-versa?
2. Right now, all of the coax segments in my house terminate on the output side of the whole house splitter. THe only thing on the input side is the cable from FIOS, which is no longer in use. Am I better off just leaving it this way, or should I use a combiner or diplexer to join the segments that will run from the new OTA and the MOCA connection on the main router? If the latter, should I put them on the input side of the whole house splitter? What specific devices would work best?
3. Finally my primary TV and the MOCA extender are co-located at the end of one coax segment. Do I need anything beyond a simple splitter to provide MOCA to the extender and and OTA signals to the TV? If so, what specific devices are needed/recommended?

Thanks in advance to anyone who has guidance to offer. My autistic son, who is addicted to Wheel of Fortune, which is unfortunately very difficult to stream, will be especially grateful if I, with your help, can figure this out.

Howard
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1) No.
2) The whole house splitter must be MOCA 2 compatible. Holland makes very good ones. You can get one with a MOCA POE filter to help the signal or buy a separate MOCA2 POE filter. Disconnect the incoming cable from the splitter and replace with a 75 ohm terminating cap or with the POE filter + cap. Any unused connections should be terminated with these caps.

Is the whole house splitter inside or outside the house ?
If there is an earthing connection to this splitter, it must be maintained on anything you install.
Where is the cable earthed ?
It should be at the demarcation box.

3) If the extender does not have a TV signal pass through port, then yes, a MOCA2 splitter will be required. Again Holland makes these.
4) Since the antenna will be inside the attic, you will need a low noise amp mounted and connected directly to the antenna downlead after the conversion to RG6 cable type. ChannelMaster makes great amps for this.
Amplify Adjustable Gain Preamplifier
Official Channel Master Website - Learn more about the Channel Master Amplify (CM-7777HD) and buy direct from the manufacturer.
www.channelmaster.com

The best installation for an antenna is as high as you can get and outside. i use the following mounted just under my roof eave.
STEALTHtenna 50
Channel Master STEALTHtenna (CM3010HD) is a Digital HDTV Outdoor TV Antenna and picks up UHF, VHF, FM and HD signals with a signal range of 50 miles.
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Make sure you follow NEC ( if US) guidance for earthing antennas to prevent lightning from entering your house / power and causing damage or fire.

You can also use a HDHomeRun tuner box close to the antenna in conditioned air space to distribute the antenna stream digitally over ethernet to any DLNA capable device - TVs, PCs, DVR, etc.

Thank you so much for your helpful response. THe antenna is in and works great -- all that remains is to get it connected to the coax network following your advice.

If you only have a couple connections for the OTA signal to pass through, you may not need an amp.

Usually they are necessary. If you can connect the antenna to the coax now, you can test to see if there is adequate signal at the TV. The usual installation for OTA would be a single coax run to the TV with only two connections (at antenna and at TV). More connections than that may require use of an amp. It is 3dB of loss at each coax connection. The input signal from the antenna in the attic is usually heavily degraded due to the roof. When the roof gets wet from rain, it will degrade further.

If not, you have two choices - either an amp at the antenna or possibly a HDHomeRun tuner on the first coax segment from the antenna without any connection to the moca coax. Then you can have the TVs and other devices select the HDHomeRun box as input using DLNA protocols that most smart TVs have.

Start with the lowest gain setting on the amp (if there is a low and a high). See if that is enough. High gain can sometimes oversaturate a tuner producing issues equal to not enough signal. Oversaturation can affect only some of the channels as it is frequency dependent. Usually, you can get an indication of signal level on most smart TVs. If not, try the high gain setting. Usually for a house, the low gain is enough unless there are cable issues or a lot of loss through connections and splitters particularly 4 way or more splitter types.


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[User]
Title: ActionTec 2.5 MoCA Adapter IP Address?

I have two of the current model ActionTec 2.5 Gbps MoCA Adapters I use to extend my WiFi network (4 floors including garage). How do I find the IP Address assigned to an adapter's Ethernet port? It appears like a ghost where my software network tools don't see the adapter. The MAC Address also doesn't show up in the device list. I would like to log into each to set up MoCA security. How do I go about this?

[Assistant]
i recall that you have to set the ip address of a pc to the native address of the device and then connect directly with ethernet cable in order to change the address manually. Then you can install back into your network.

AT support should be able to provide if you cannot find it by searching this forum's messages.

Found answer here https://forums.verizon.com/t5/Fios-Internet/How-to-config-G1100-for-Actiontec-ECB6250/td-p/907112

The MoCA Adapter default Ip address is 192.168.1.1 so set your PC to 192.168.1.10 1 with 192.168.1.1 as Router Address and '255.255.255.0' for network mask. Direct connect from PC to Adapter on RJ45 jacks. Modern ethernet doesn't need a dedicated cross-over ethernet cable for direct connect.


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[User]
Title: using two Actiontec WCB3000N K routers as extender

I would like to know if two wireless Actiontec moca routers ( WCB3000N ) could serve as a wired extender. I have Xfinity internet service connected to an Arris SBG10 wifi modem router.
This router does not cover the house. I have been using plugin wifi extenders with some success. I would prefer to extend using a coax wired connection.

I plan to bridge using two WCB3000N wifi routers:

Xfinity incoming cable --->Arris Modem / WiFi router ---> ethernet cable ---> WCB3000N ---->coax cable run ----> WCB3000N -----> wireless devices (fireTV, phone ,etc).

I plan to disable the WiFi function of the first WCB3000N as not needed. Is there any reason this setup won't work or do I not understand the capacities of this wifi router?

[Assistant]
I don't follow your answer. I asked specifically about the WCB3000N not AT6200. The connections I took pains to clearly spell out.
Why would I need another AP when the unit in question is a wireless AP?

It will work. While you need two MOCA devices one for each end and so unless you already own both WCB3000Ns you could use a less expensive ECB2500V which is just a MOCA terminal with no WiFi or router features.

The WCB3000N has both a 2.4 Ghz & 5 Ghz radio. It will give you decent speeds and given that they used to be available for cheap prices it is certainly worth a try. I set up a WCB3000N for my son several years ago but I don't remember the link rates on the Wifi or the data bandwidth.

Depending if you are using any Xfinity cable boxes sharing the coaxial you are planning to link to the WCB3000N you might have interference. Also be aware that you may need to replace any splitters that won't pass MOCA frequencies.

If the WCB3000N doesn't meet your needs then there are more current MOCA devices which are capable of gigabit data rates and if you attached an AC capable AP on the far end you would certainly get higher WiFi speeds but if you are only connecting smart phones and tablets to the AP it probably won't make a noticeable difference.

UPDATE: I just checked the WCB3000N that I had in my closet and the Ethernet ports are fast Ethernet. This means that under good conditions the speed between your WCB3000Ns would be slightly less than 100 Mbps and then your WiFi from the AP even using the 5 Ghz radio might be even less. Again this might work for you depending what devices you want to connect to the WCB3000 AP.

Thanks for the answer. That confirms my plan for a low cost WiFi extension. (The WCB3000N run only $27 ea on Amaz.) I had tried powerline but my house wiring isn't compatible. I don't believe I'm "sharing" the coax . That is, I don't have cable TV from Xfinity nor splitters, just internet service. The only coax connection is the incoming service cable going to Xfinity's modem and the proposed "ethernet over Moca" extension as outlined above.


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[User]
Title: Moca adapters, multiple set up how?

If I were to add a MoCA adapter to my router and to the coax I realize I would use another bonded MoCA adapter somewhere else in the house.
1. I also assume I could connect a device via Ethernet directly to that MoCA adapter. Correct?

2. Now what if I wanted to add another MoCA adapter or two more in other rooms? How would the router know how to divvy up the IP addresses? Or would I need some sort of switch where are all the coax cables connect outside the house? Thank you very much for helping this newbie. Peter

[Assistant]
The MOCA adapter hooked to your router just passes the traffic. Your router will hand out DHCP just fine.

The only odd thing you'll see is in traffic stats multiple clients looking like they are on the same Ethernet port on the router, cause technically they are.

I have three in my house. One at the router, two in other rooms. In the living room I have a small switch after the MOCA to wire up all my consoles and crap. They all work well and fully take advantage of my Gig FiOS. Lightens the wireless load too.

They are a great solution. I don't think many people use them due to obscurity or cost, as they are more expensive than Powerlines and other more advertised solutions. I love mine.

Thank you. So to reiterate if I had 5 Moca adapters attached to each coax outlet in the house I would not need a switch or anything else because even though the 1st Moca is attached to my main router , the router would hand out multiple IP's to EACH Moca through the one ethernet connection to the main router?

Thank you again
Peter

That's correct. I'm not even sure the MOCA adapters get an IP .. I don't see any in my router list. I think they just act as "switches" directing traffic. Someone smarter than me can probably be more technical . So your router is handing out IP's to your actual devices like normal.

Just keep in mind that most MOCA adapters only have a single ethernet port, so if you do have more than one device in a given room you want to connect you would need to buy a little 5 port switch or similar.


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[User]
Title: Frontier Fios MOCA setup

Over the years I had switched back and forth between Verizon / Frontier Fios and Spectrum cable for my internet and cable TV programming. I have had a successful MOCA network with each of them. I have just switched again this time back to Frontier Fios but just for internet with plans to use a streaming service or OTA for TV. The Frontier tech came out on Saturday and replaced all of the original Verizon Fios equipment from the side of the house and in the garage (500/500 speed). He then went to the electrical cabinet in the master bedroom closet where all of the coax cables are waiting to be connected to something. These coax cables are labeled "bedroom 2", "Demarc", "living room" etc. Oddly, two of the coax cables are labeled "Demarc", The tech said one was the actual Demarc, and the other went to one of the coax outlets in the master bedroom. He "barreled" these two together. I seem to recall Spectrum had done this when I subscribed with them a couple of years ago, and wasn't able to get the MOCA network to work. After two service trips from Spectrum, they connected the correct Demarc cable to a powered splitter, and then connected the coax cables for each of the other rooms to the splitter. At that point I was able to get the MOCA network to work. The Frontier tech said their system won't work with a splitter. I can't imagine this is the case. My question is, should my MOCA network work if the two "Demarc" cables are barreled together with none of the other coax cables connected to anything, or do they need to connected in the same way Spectrum had it? He didn't seem to understand the MOCA network concept, and when he left, I only had an internet signal active on the coax outlet he barreled with the "Demarc". When I tried to connect a MOCA adapter, the internet was no longer showing on my computer. When I removed it and connected it back to the way he had it, there was still no internet on the computer. After an hour on the phone with Frontier, they determined there was a problem with the router (model NVG468MQ) and are sending a replacement.

Thanks for any and all help!

[Assistant]
This makes it sound like you only have coax connectivity between your ONT and your router (an NVG468MQ). Is this correct? If yes, then you're leaving something out of your setup description, because the NVG468MQ lacks any MoCA WAN functionality, and so wouldn't be able to establish a MoCA WAN connection for itself.

Can you please review the equipment that you find connected to your router, especially its Ethernet WAN port, and then detail what you find?

stu7575 said:
The Frontier tech came out on Saturday and replaced all of the original Verizon Fios equipment from the side of the house and in the garage (500/500 speed).
Given this info (500/500) and that you seem to only have coax connectivity, I expect that you'll find that Frontier has also installed one or a pair of Frontier FCA251 MoCA adapters to establish your WAN connection over your coax.

I'm a bit busy, at present, so can't spend too much time on it right now. Barring other posts from knowledgeable sources here, here are a few other related threads (one fresh as of yesterday) covering the topic:
https://www.dslreports.com/forum/r3...CA-WAN-configuration-and-MoCA-LAN-coexistence

Basically, your best options (assuming the FCA251 adapters are in use) would be to move the router to where a direct Ethernet WAN connection could be established (eliminating the MoCA WAN and need for the FCA251 adapters); locate the router where dual coax lines between the central junction and the router location are available, allowing isolation of the MoCA WAN and LAN signals; or some other creative means of isolating the MoCA WAN and LAN signals. (example diagrams in the first bulleted post, above)

it would also helpif you sketch out a map of all the coax starting from the demarc and ONT. identify all of the devices by model # connected to the coax please.


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[User]
Title: MOCA 2.5 - Dramatically Different Speeds Per Direction

Hi Good Folks,

This is my first shot at a MoCa installation. I have a Comcast 1.2 Gigabit internet circuit running to a XB-7 Modem running in bridged mode. The XB-7 has MoCa 2.0 functionality which I turned off (I'm not sure if the XB-7's MoCa functionality works in bridge mode anways). Instead I'm trying to use Actiontec ECB7520 adapters to get up to MoCa 2.5.

The POE filter was already installed by Comcast at the demarc point. I replaced the 3-way Commscope splitter with a BAMF 3-Way Coax Cable Splitter Bi-Directional MoCA 5-2300MHz. This is all outside the house in an external box.

From reading here, I used a BANF 2 Way coax splitter (2-2300 Mhz) to split the signal in my office (where the cable modem & router reside) to both the cable modem and the MoCa adapter. Then I connect the router to the Xb-7 Modem's WAN side, and run a line for its LAN side back to the Actiontec MoCa adapter.

I wasn't sure if this would work, but I saw a similar diagram here. The problem is that when I run an iPerf3 client on my NVIDIA Shield to a iPerf3 docker on my Synology NAS (see diagram), I only get ~180 Mbps down but the expected ~900 Mbps up! I have no idea why this is. I thought that perhaps the XB-7 Modem was reflecting back MoCa signals so I tried installing a POE filter in front of it but all that did was slow down the iPerf3 tests slightly.

I don't want to used Comcast's Moca 2.0 implementation if it requires taking to modem out of bridged mode for various reasons.

I called ActionTec support today, and he said to replace the BANF 2 way coax splitter that lets 5-2300Mhz pass with one that lets 5-1670Mhz pass so I used the ones that came with the adapters. They are 5-1670Mhz. I have no idea how this would solve this issue, and I tried it using the stock adapters from the Actiontec Adapters and there was no change in iPerf3 performance.

Any ideas would be appreciated!

[Assistant]
Is there a diagnostic page on the A/Ts that you can get to check the bands being used and the sync rate between nodes ?
Use a PC with a gigbit wired port in place of the firestick for testing.
What was the iperf command used ?
The options to use on iperf are listed in the GOCOAX thread or one related. Basically,you want parallel streams, maybe 10 to get the full bandwidth saturated.
There was another thread here were the poster was seeing asymmetric test speeds with iperf. i forget how that was resolved though.

There are no cable TV boxes or cable DVRs on the moca network ?

There are no cable TV boxes or cable DVR's on the MoCa network, just a 1.2 Gbps internet circuit. I was using Analiti for the iPerf client on the NVDIA Shield so I'm going to have to use the Docker IPerf3 command line as a client coming back instead to truly tell you what iperf command was used.

I'm going to try a used laptop now.

I saw that thread you mentioned and it ended with call ActionTec support. I'm not sure if that person ever figured it out or not.

Thank you!


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[User]
Title: Is this PoE Moca Filter Good to Use?

Looking for an affordable PoE filter that will ALSO provide an performance boost via reflecting back the moca signal.

Brand: BELDON PPC Moca (SNLP-1GCW)

This one is only $4 (CAD) free ship, but only supports the 1125-1525Mhz range vs say the Altronix GLF-1002

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[Assistant]
what frequency range is your moca equipment using ?

degrub said:
what frequency range is your moca equipment using ?
Beacon Channel: 1150
Primary Channel: 1175
Secondary Channel: 1300
First Channel: 1175

Also with this filter i am eyeing help boost performance via a reflecting back of the moca signal or is that feature only for more pricey filters like the Antronix GLF-1002?

"may" provide a performance boost if the operative word in this case. The cable plant has more of an influence.

Is this an isolated, moca only, cable plant or is it sharing with cable company signal ? If yes, what are there up/down bands ?


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[User]
Title: Thinking about switching to MoCA 2.5

I'm only getting average 250Mbps between my Intel AX200s in the basement and Asus RT-AC3100 router upstairs. Thinking about going back to MoCA with at least a couple endpoints in the basement, and going with MoCA 2.5 equipment this time.
My upstairs coax is fine, builder has each room going directly to a splitter. The basement however, was finished by the previous owner and he daisy-chained all the wiring using splitters.

I'm also considering making these CATV jacks work for TV, and I've read that I should use taps to balance them and an amplifier to make up for the signal losses.
Assuming I eventually want a MoCA bridge on East Wall Living Area, West Wall Funny Shaped Room, and South Wall Guest Room, would MoCA work with taps, or should I stick to the splitters? I guess I could balance them for CATV using attenuators instead, or is that a bad idea?
There is no way to change this wiring as I'd have to tear out all the drywall to do it, and if I were going to do that, might as well just run ethernet.

[Assistant]
You need to see if the existing splitters are MoCA compatible as the bandwidth and bands passed are important for MoCA.
Next, you will likely get better and more stable bandwidth to the rooms, but they will all share the same 'backbone' which under 'normal' conditions is 2.5 Gb.
Finally, you need to get a reflector to put at your cable entrance to keep your MoCA signal indise your house and not broadcast to the neighborhood.

My GoCoax units have TV passthrough and it does work.

When you say TV, do you mean cable TV company provided signal or OTA TV antenna provided signal ?
How are you getting your internet connection - cable co or phone co or ?

If OTA TV antennal use a channelmaster 7777HD antenna mounted low noise amp,17 or 30 dB gain, replace the 4 way with a MOCA2 rated 0 loss amplified splitter TV bands, replace the West wall funny shaped room spitter with a MOCA 2 rated, 0 loss moca, you may have to use ~0-15 dB TV signal ( 5-1002 MHz) amplified splitter (what you need depends on number of connections from CM776/7 to that point. if only single cable run to 4 way, then may not need anything above 0 loss for TV signal and 17dB on the CM to avoid overloading other TV receivers closer to the antenna in the cable path). Replace any other splitter in the MOCA2 path with one rated for MOCA2, not amplified.

Amplify Adjustable Gain Preamplifier
Official Channel Master Website - Learn more about the Channel Master Amplify (CM-7777HD) and buy direct from the manufacturer.
www.channelmaster.com

Sorry, forgot to mention OTA, so I shouldn't need the reflector.
My internet comes from U-Verse so it doesn't use the coax.
Splitters will definitely need to be replaced as they were standard splitters and were even wired backwards as the previous homeowner found he could only fit them in the junction boxes that way (one output used as an input and vice versa). Looking at the MoCA splitters, they may be impossible to fit into the junction boxes. Looks like the only things that will fit properly are in-wall taps, which don't seem to be available for MoCA. This could be a problem.

If I need to use a jack for TV as well as MoCA, will there be less loss using a bridge with passthrough vs one without and an additional splitter? Or is it the same because it's just internally split? I just wonder because I see someone selling 1-port MoCA bridges for half the price of a 2-port.