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[User]
Title: MOCA 2.0 Help Needed - Why Are my Speeds Slow in 1 Direction?

The Problem:

I have two PCs (both Win10). Both have the same specs. When i transfer from PC1 to PC2 across the 1Gbps network i get 112MB/s. However, when transferring the same file (after clearing the system file cache via RAMMap) from PC2 to PC1 i only get 50-70MB/s. My guess is the "bonded" feature is working only in one direction since you can see its roughly half the speed. Can't figure out why though. Maybe one of the moca devices is defective??

What I Have:
2x Actiontec ECB6200 (MOCA 2.0 - vent case top = H/W: 2C) - firmware: 2.11.1.50.6200.7
Cat6a ethernet cables used
Modem: TP-Link TC7650 (DOCSIS 3.0) -- No Moca PoE Filter attached since doesn't need it (see attached image for downstream/upstream bonded channels)
Asus GT-AC2900 Router (Modem and Switch 2 is connected through this)
Switch 1 - TrendNet TEG-S50G (PC1 and MOCA1 is connected through this)
Switch 2 - TP-Link TL-SG108E (PC2 and MOCA2 is connected to this)
What I Tried:
I swapped MOCA devices to see if the problem occurred on PC1 to PC2. Nope. The problem was still the same --> Speed from PC2 to PC1 was 50-70MB/s, while PC1 to PC2 remained at 112MB/s
Testing using direct Ethernet cables (so no MOCA devices - everything else the same) resulted in both PCs getting a stable 112MB/s (both directions).
Both MOCA devices are connected directly to each other with a 1 foot coax cable (i tried different sized coax cables).
The ethernet cables are cat6a (all new and tested)
I changed coax cables and changed ethernet cables multiple times. No affect on speeds.
The connection goes like this: PC1 -> ethernet -> Switch 1 -> Ethernet -> MOCA1 -> Coax cable (1 foot) -> MOCA2 -> Ethernet (1 foot) -> Switch 2 -> Ethernet -> Router -> Ethernet -> Modem (Docsis 3.0) -> Coax -> Moca PoE Filter -> Demarcation Box
Speed tests were performed via iperf3 (see results in thread replies) and file explorer
iperf3 Tests Performed:
PC1 = 192.168.1.101
PC2 = 192.168.1.100

On PC1 (PC2 is running as a server via: iperf3 -s -V -i 1):

Test #1: iperf3 –c 192.168.1.100
Test #2: iperf3 –c 192.168.1.100 –P 4 (4 Parallel Connections)
Test #3: iperf3 –c 192.168.1.100 -w 1M (TCP window size)
Test #4: iperf3 –c 192.168.1.100 -R (Reverse mode = Server is SENDING, Client receives)

On PC2 (PC1 is running as a server via: iperf3 -s -V -i 1):

Test #1: iperf3 –c 192.168.1.101
Test #2: iperf3 –c 192.168.1.101 –P 4
Test #3: iperf3 –c 192.168.1.101 -w 1M
Test #4: iperf3 –c 192.168.1.101 -R

MOCA1 (attached to PC1) ActionTec Status Page (click for larger view):

MOCA2 ActionTec Status Page (click for larger view):

Modem Bonded Channels (click for larger view):

(Due to post size limits -- 10,000 characters -- see this thread's replies for Test Results)

[Assistant]
Test Results

PC1 to PC2 - Test #1: iperf3 –c 192.168.1.100

INI:
Connecting to host 192.168.1.100, port 5201
[  4] local 192.168.1.101 port 56936 connected to 192.168.1.100 port 5201
[ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bandwidth
[  4]   0.00-1.00   sec  46.8 MBytes   391 Mbits/sec
[  4]   1.00-2.00   sec  47.1 MBytes   396 Mbits/sec
[  4]   2.00-3.00   sec  47.2 MBytes   395 Mbits/sec
[  4]   3.00-4.00   sec  47.1 MBytes   396 Mbits/sec
[  4]   4.00-5.00   sec  46.9 MBytes   393 Mbits/sec
[  4]   5.00-6.00   sec  47.0 MBytes   394 Mbits/sec
[  4]   6.00-7.00   sec  47.4 MBytes   397 Mbits/sec
[  4]   7.00-8.00   sec  47.4 MBytes   397 Mbits/sec
[  4]   8.00-9.00   sec  47.0 MBytes   394 Mbits/sec
[  4]   9.00-10.00  sec  47.1 MBytes   395 Mbits/sec
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bandwidth
[  4]   0.00-10.00  sec   471 MBytes   395 Mbits/sec                  sender
[  4]   0.00-10.00  sec   471 MBytes   395 Mbits/sec                  receiver

PC1 to PC2 - Test #2: iperf3 –c 192.168.1.100 –P 4

INI:
Connecting to host 192.168.1.100, port 5201
[  4] local 192.168.1.101 port 56938 connected to 192.168.1.100 port 5201
[  6] local 192.168.1.101 port 56939 connected to 192.168.1.100 port 5201
[  8] local 192.168.1.101 port 56940 connected to 192.168.1.100 port 5201
[ 10] local 192.168.1.101 port 56941 connected to 192.168.1.100 port 5201
[ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bandwidth
[  4]   0.00-1.00   sec  29.0 MBytes   243 Mbits/sec
[  6]   0.00-1.00   sec  28.6 MBytes   240 Mbits/sec
[  8]   0.00-1.00   sec  27.9 MBytes   233 Mbits/sec
[ 10]   0.00-1.00   sec  27.2 MBytes   228 Mbits/sec
[SUM]   0.00-1.00   sec   113 MBytes   944 Mbits/sec
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[  4]   1.00-2.00   sec  28.6 MBytes   240 Mbits/sec
[  6]   1.00-2.00   sec  28.4 MBytes   238 Mbits/sec
[  8]   1.00-2.00   sec  27.9 MBytes   234 Mbits/sec
[ 10]   1.00-2.00   sec  27.8 MBytes   233 Mbits/sec
[SUM]   1.00-2.00   sec   113 MBytes   946 Mbits/sec
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[  4]   2.00-3.00   sec  29.0 MBytes   243 Mbits/sec
[  6]   2.00-3.00   sec  28.4 MBytes   238 Mbits/sec
[  8]   2.00-3.00   sec  27.9 MBytes   234 Mbits/sec
[ 10]   2.00-3.00   sec  27.6 MBytes   232 Mbits/sec
[SUM]   2.00-3.00   sec   113 MBytes   947 Mbits/sec
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[  4]   3.00-4.00   sec  28.8 MBytes   241 Mbits/sec
[  6]   3.00-4.00   sec  28.4 MBytes   238 Mbits/sec
[  8]   3.00-4.00   sec  27.9 MBytes   234 Mbits/sec
[ 10]   3.00-4.00   sec  28.0 MBytes   235 Mbits/sec
[SUM]   3.00-4.00   sec   113 MBytes   947 Mbits/sec
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[  4]   4.00-5.00   sec  28.8 MBytes   241 Mbits/sec
[  6]   4.00-5.00   sec  28.5 MBytes   239 Mbits/sec
[  8]   4.00-5.00   sec  27.9 MBytes   234 Mbits/sec
[ 10]   4.00-5.00   sec  27.6 MBytes   232 Mbits/sec
[SUM]   4.00-5.00   sec   113 MBytes   947 Mbits/sec
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[  4]   5.00-6.00   sec  28.9 MBytes   242 Mbits/sec
[  6]   5.00-6.00   sec  28.5 MBytes   239 Mbits/sec
[  8]   5.00-6.00   sec  27.9 MBytes   234 Mbits/sec
[ 10]   5.00-6.00   sec  27.6 MBytes   232 Mbits/sec
[SUM]   5.00-6.00   sec   113 MBytes   947 Mbits/sec
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[  4]   6.00-7.00   sec  28.6 MBytes   240 Mbits/sec
[  6]   6.00-7.00   sec  28.5 MBytes   239 Mbits/sec
[  8]   6.00-7.00   sec  27.8 MBytes   233 Mbits/sec
[ 10]   6.00-7.00   sec  28.0 MBytes   235 Mbits/sec
[SUM]   6.00-7.00   sec   113 MBytes   947 Mbits/sec
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[  4]   7.00-8.00   sec  28.9 MBytes   242 Mbits/sec
[  6]   7.00-8.00   sec  28.6 MBytes   240 Mbits/sec
[  8]   7.00-8.00   sec  27.9 MBytes   234 Mbits/sec
[ 10]   7.00-8.00   sec  27.8 MBytes   233 Mbits/sec
[SUM]   7.00-8.00   sec   113 MBytes   948 Mbits/sec
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[  4]   8.00-9.00   sec  28.6 MBytes   240 Mbits/sec
[  6]   8.00-9.00   sec  28.2 MBytes   237 Mbits/sec
[  8]   8.00-9.00   sec  27.8 MBytes   233 Mbits/sec
[ 10]   8.00-9.00   sec  27.8 MBytes   233 Mbits/sec
[SUM]   8.00-9.00   sec   112 MBytes   944 Mbits/sec
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[  4]   9.00-10.00  sec  28.9 MBytes   242 Mbits/sec
[  6]   9.00-10.00  sec  28.5 MBytes   239 Mbits/sec
[  8]   9.00-10.00  sec  27.9 MBytes   234 Mbits/sec
[ 10]   9.00-10.00  sec  27.6 MBytes   232 Mbits/sec
[SUM]   9.00-10.00  sec   113 MBytes   947 Mbits/sec
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bandwidth
[  4]   0.00-10.00  sec   288 MBytes   242 Mbits/sec                  sender
[  4]   0.00-10.00  sec   288 MBytes   242 Mbits/sec                  receiver
[  6]   0.00-10.00  sec   285 MBytes   239 Mbits/sec                  sender
[  6]   0.00-10.00  sec   285 MBytes   239 Mbits/sec                  receiver
[  8]   0.00-10.00  sec   278 MBytes   234 Mbits/sec                  sender
[  8]   0.00-10.00  sec   278 MBytes   234 Mbits/sec                  receiver
[ 10]   0.00-10.00  sec   277 MBytes   232 Mbits/sec                  sender
[ 10]   0.00-10.00  sec   277 MBytes   232 Mbits/sec                  receiver
[SUM]   0.00-10.00  sec  1.10 GBytes   946 Mbits/sec                  sender
[SUM]   0.00-10.00  sec  1.10 GBytes   946 Mbits/sec                  receiver

PC1 to PC2 - Test #3: iperf3 –c 192.168.1.100 -w 1M

INI:
Connecting to host 192.168.1.100, port 5201
[  4] local 192.168.1.101 port 56948 connected to 192.168.1.100 port 5201
[ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bandwidth
[  4]   0.00-1.00   sec   112 MBytes   938 Mbits/sec
[  4]   1.00-2.00   sec   113 MBytes   949 Mbits/sec
[  4]   2.00-3.00   sec   113 MBytes   949 Mbits/sec
[  4]   3.00-4.00   sec   113 MBytes   949 Mbits/sec
[  4]   4.00-5.00   sec   113 MBytes   950 Mbits/sec
[  4]   5.00-6.00   sec   113 MBytes   949 Mbits/sec
[  4]   6.00-7.00   sec   113 MBytes   950 Mbits/sec
[  4]   7.00-8.00   sec   113 MBytes   949 Mbits/sec
[  4]   8.00-9.00   sec   113 MBytes   950 Mbits/sec
[  4]   9.00-10.00  sec   113 MBytes   948 Mbits/sec
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bandwidth
[  4]   0.00-10.00  sec  1.10 GBytes   948 Mbits/sec                  sender
[  4]   0.00-10.00  sec  1.10 GBytes   948 Mbits/sec                  receiver

PC1 to PC2 - Test #4: iperf3 –c 192.168.1.100 -R

INI:
Connecting to host 192.168.1.100, port 5201
Reverse mode, remote host 192.168.1.100 is sending
[  4] local 192.168.1.101 port 56950 connected to 192.168.1.100 port 5201
[ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bandwidth
[  4]   0.00-1.00   sec  48.2 MBytes   405 Mbits/sec
[  4]   1.00-2.00   sec  47.3 MBytes   396 Mbits/sec
[  4]   2.00-3.00   sec  47.9 MBytes   402 Mbits/sec
[  4]   3.00-4.00   sec  47.6 MBytes   400 Mbits/sec
[  4]   4.00-5.00   sec  47.5 MBytes   398 Mbits/sec
[  4]   5.00-6.00   sec  47.4 MBytes   398 Mbits/sec
[  4]   6.00-7.00   sec  47.6 MBytes   399 Mbits/sec
[  4]   7.00-8.00   sec  47.5 MBytes   398 Mbits/sec
[  4]   8.00-9.00   sec  47.8 MBytes   401 Mbits/sec
[  4]   9.00-10.00  sec  47.0 MBytes   394 Mbits/sec
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bandwidth
[  4]   0.00-10.00  sec   476 MBytes   399 Mbits/sec                  sender
[  4]   0.00-10.00  sec   476 MBytes   399 Mbits/sec                  receiver

Test Results (Continued)

PC2 to PC1 - Test #1: iperf3 –c 192.168.1.101 (Note: Results shown are from the server's perspective on PC1)

INI:
Time: Mon, 26 Jul 2021 03:09:38 GMT
Accepted connection from 192.168.1.100, port 63231
      TCP MSS: 0 (default)
[  5] local 192.168.1.101 port 5201 connected to 192.168.1.100 port 63232
Starting Test: protocol: TCP, 1 streams, 131072 byte blocks, omitting 0 seconds, 10 second test
[ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bandwidth
[  5]   0.00-1.00   sec  45.1 MBytes   378 Mbits/sec
[  5]   1.00-2.00   sec  47.8 MBytes   401 Mbits/sec
[  5]   2.00-3.00   sec  48.7 MBytes   408 Mbits/sec
[  5]   3.00-4.00   sec  47.8 MBytes   401 Mbits/sec
[  5]   4.00-5.00   sec  47.0 MBytes   394 Mbits/sec
[  5]   5.00-6.00   sec  48.8 MBytes   409 Mbits/sec
[  5]   6.00-7.00   sec  45.9 MBytes   385 Mbits/sec
[  5]   7.00-8.00   sec  47.8 MBytes   401 Mbits/sec
[  5]   8.00-9.00   sec  48.5 MBytes   407 Mbits/sec
[  5]   9.00-10.00  sec  48.1 MBytes   404 Mbits/sec
[  5]  10.00-10.04  sec  2.18 MBytes   425 Mbits/sec
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Test Complete. Summary Results:
[ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bandwidth
[  5]   0.00-10.04  sec  0.00 Bytes  0.00 bits/sec                  sender
[  5]   0.00-10.04  sec   478 MBytes   399 Mbits/sec                  receiver
CPU Utilization: local/receiver 0.2% (0.0%u/0.1%s), remote/sender 0.0% (0.0%u/0.0%s)

PC2 to PC1 - Test #2: iperf3 –c 192.168.1.101 –P 4 (Note: Results shown are from the server's perspective on PC1)

INI:
Time: Mon, 26 Jul 2021 03:12:25 GMT
Accepted connection from 192.168.1.100, port 63233
      TCP MSS: 0 (default)
[  5] local 192.168.1.101 port 5201 connected to 192.168.1.100 port 63234
[  7] local 192.168.1.101 port 5201 connected to 192.168.1.100 port 63235
[  9] local 192.168.1.101 port 5201 connected to 192.168.1.100 port 63236
[ 11] local 192.168.1.101 port 5201 connected to 192.168.1.100 port 63237
Starting Test: protocol: TCP, 4 streams, 131072 byte blocks, omitting 0 seconds, 10 second test
[ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bandwidth
[  5]   0.00-1.00   sec  27.8 MBytes   233 Mbits/sec
[  7]   0.00-1.00   sec  26.4 MBytes   221 Mbits/sec
[  9]   0.00-1.00   sec  26.1 MBytes   219 Mbits/sec
[ 11]   0.00-1.00   sec  27.2 MBytes   228 Mbits/sec
[SUM]   0.00-1.00   sec   108 MBytes   902 Mbits/sec
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[  5]   1.00-2.00   sec  28.4 MBytes   239 Mbits/sec
[  7]   1.00-2.00   sec  28.1 MBytes   236 Mbits/sec
[  9]   1.00-2.00   sec  27.9 MBytes   234 Mbits/sec
[ 11]   1.00-2.00   sec  27.7 MBytes   232 Mbits/sec
[SUM]   1.00-2.00   sec   112 MBytes   941 Mbits/sec
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[  5]   2.00-3.00   sec  28.5 MBytes   239 Mbits/sec
[  7]   2.00-3.00   sec  28.0 MBytes   235 Mbits/sec
[  9]   2.00-3.00   sec  27.9 MBytes   234 Mbits/sec
[ 11]   2.00-3.00   sec  27.6 MBytes   232 Mbits/sec
[SUM]   2.00-3.00   sec   112 MBytes   939 Mbits/sec
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[  5]   3.00-4.00   sec  28.5 MBytes   239 Mbits/sec
[  7]   3.00-4.00   sec  28.1 MBytes   236 Mbits/sec
[  9]   3.00-4.00   sec  27.8 MBytes   233 Mbits/sec
[ 11]   3.00-4.00   sec  27.7 MBytes   232 Mbits/sec
[SUM]   3.00-4.00   sec   112 MBytes   940 Mbits/sec
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[  5]   4.00-5.00   sec  28.5 MBytes   239 Mbits/sec
[  7]   4.00-5.00   sec  28.1 MBytes   236 Mbits/sec
[  9]   4.00-5.00   sec  27.9 MBytes   234 Mbits/sec
[ 11]   4.00-5.00   sec  27.8 MBytes   233 Mbits/sec
[SUM]   4.00-5.00   sec   112 MBytes   942 Mbits/sec
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[  5]   5.00-6.00   sec  28.4 MBytes   238 Mbits/sec
[  7]   5.00-6.00   sec  28.0 MBytes   235 Mbits/sec
[  9]   5.00-6.00   sec  27.9 MBytes   234 Mbits/sec
[ 11]   5.00-6.00   sec  27.7 MBytes   232 Mbits/sec
[SUM]   5.00-6.00   sec   112 MBytes   939 Mbits/sec
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[  5]   6.00-7.00   sec  28.3 MBytes   237 Mbits/sec
[  7]   6.00-7.00   sec  28.1 MBytes   236 Mbits/sec
[  9]   6.00-7.00   sec  27.9 MBytes   234 Mbits/sec
[ 11]   6.00-7.00   sec  27.7 MBytes   232 Mbits/sec
[SUM]   6.00-7.00   sec   112 MBytes   940 Mbits/sec
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[  5]   7.00-8.00   sec  28.4 MBytes   238 Mbits/sec
[  7]   7.00-8.00   sec  28.3 MBytes   237 Mbits/sec
[  9]   7.00-8.00   sec  28.1 MBytes   236 Mbits/sec
[ 11]   7.00-8.00   sec  27.6 MBytes   231 Mbits/sec
[SUM]   7.00-8.00   sec   112 MBytes   942 Mbits/sec
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[  5]   8.00-9.00   sec  28.4 MBytes   238 Mbits/sec
[  7]   8.00-9.00   sec  28.2 MBytes   237 Mbits/sec
[  9]   8.00-9.00   sec  27.8 MBytes   233 Mbits/sec
[ 11]   8.00-9.00   sec  27.7 MBytes   232 Mbits/sec
[SUM]   8.00-9.00   sec   112 MBytes   940 Mbits/sec
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[  5]   9.00-10.00  sec  28.4 MBytes   238 Mbits/sec
[  7]   9.00-10.00  sec  28.1 MBytes   236 Mbits/sec
[  9]   9.00-10.00  sec  28.0 MBytes   235 Mbits/sec
[ 11]   9.00-10.00  sec  27.6 MBytes   232 Mbits/sec
[SUM]   9.00-10.00  sec   112 MBytes   941 Mbits/sec
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[  5]  10.00-10.02  sec   691 KBytes   253 Mbits/sec
[  7]  10.00-10.02  sec   640 KBytes   234 Mbits/sec
[  9]  10.00-10.02  sec   513 KBytes   187 Mbits/sec
[ 11]  10.00-10.02  sec   720 KBytes   263 Mbits/sec
[SUM]  10.00-10.02  sec  2.50 MBytes   937 Mbits/sec
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Test Complete. Summary Results:
[ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bandwidth
[  5]   0.00-10.02  sec  0.00 Bytes  0.00 bits/sec                  sender
[  5]   0.00-10.02  sec   284 MBytes   238 Mbits/sec                  receiver
[  7]   0.00-10.02  sec  0.00 Bytes  0.00 bits/sec                  sender
[  7]   0.00-10.02  sec   280 MBytes   234 Mbits/sec                  receiver
[  9]   0.00-10.02  sec  0.00 Bytes  0.00 bits/sec                  sender
[  9]   0.00-10.02  sec   278 MBytes   233 Mbits/sec                  receiver
[ 11]   0.00-10.02  sec  0.00 Bytes  0.00 bits/sec                  sender
[ 11]   0.00-10.02  sec   277 MBytes   232 Mbits/sec                  receiver
[SUM]   0.00-10.02  sec  0.00 Bytes  0.00 bits/sec                  sender
[SUM]   0.00-10.02  sec  1.09 GBytes   937 Mbits/sec                  receiver
CPU Utilization: local/receiver 1.0% (0.3%u/0.7%s), remote/sender 6.5% (1.2%u/5.3%s)

PC2 to PC1 - Test #3: iperf3 –c 192.168.1.101 -w 1M (Note: Results shown are from the server's perspective on PC1)

INI:
Time: Mon, 26 Jul 2021 03:15:28 GMT
Accepted connection from 192.168.1.100, port 63245
      TCP MSS: 0 (default)
[  5] local 192.168.1.101 port 5201 connected to 192.168.1.100 port 63246
Starting Test: protocol: TCP, 1 streams, 131072 byte blocks, omitting 0 seconds, 10 second test
[ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bandwidth
[  5]   0.00-1.00   sec   104 MBytes   876 Mbits/sec
[  5]   1.00-2.00   sec   112 MBytes   942 Mbits/sec
[  5]   2.00-3.00   sec   112 MBytes   942 Mbits/sec
[  5]   3.00-4.00   sec   112 MBytes   943 Mbits/sec
[  5]   4.00-5.00   sec   112 MBytes   942 Mbits/sec
[  5]   5.00-6.00   sec   112 MBytes   942 Mbits/sec
[  5]   6.00-7.00   sec   112 MBytes   943 Mbits/sec
[  5]   7.00-8.00   sec   112 MBytes   942 Mbits/sec
[  5]   8.00-9.00   sec   112 MBytes   943 Mbits/sec
[  5]   9.00-10.00  sec   112 MBytes   942 Mbits/sec
[  5]  10.00-10.05  sec  5.62 MBytes   941 Mbits/sec
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Test Complete. Summary Results:
[ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bandwidth
[  5]   0.00-10.05  sec  0.00 Bytes  0.00 bits/sec                  sender
[  5]   0.00-10.05  sec  1.09 GBytes   936 Mbits/sec                  receiver
CPU Utilization: local/receiver 0.9% (0.2%u/0.7%s), remote/sender 26.0% (3.4%u/22.6%s)

PC2 to PC1 - Test #4: iperf3 –c 192.168.1.101 -R (Note: Results shown are from the server's perspective on PC1)

INI:
Time: Mon, 26 Jul 2021 03:16:50 GMT
Accepted connection from 192.168.1.100, port 63250
      TCP MSS: 0 (default)
[  5] local 192.168.1.101 port 5201 connected to 192.168.1.100 port 63251
Starting Test: protocol: TCP, 1 streams, 131072 byte blocks, omitting 0 seconds, 10 second test
[ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bandwidth
[  5]   0.00-1.00   sec  45.5 MBytes   381 Mbits/sec
[  5]   1.00-2.00   sec  46.4 MBytes   389 Mbits/sec
[  5]   2.00-3.00   sec  47.8 MBytes   400 Mbits/sec
[  5]   3.00-4.00   sec  46.9 MBytes   394 Mbits/sec
[  5]   4.00-5.00   sec  47.5 MBytes   397 Mbits/sec
[  5]   5.00-6.00   sec  47.4 MBytes   398 Mbits/sec
[  5]   6.00-7.00   sec  47.0 MBytes   395 Mbits/sec
[  5]   7.00-8.00   sec  47.9 MBytes   400 Mbits/sec
[  5]   8.00-9.00   sec  46.5 MBytes   391 Mbits/sec
[  5]   9.00-10.00  sec  46.4 MBytes   389 Mbits/sec
[  5]  10.00-10.04  sec  1.50 MBytes   352 Mbits/sec
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Test Complete. Summary Results:
[ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bandwidth
[  5]   0.00-10.04  sec   471 MBytes   393 Mbits/sec                  sender
[  5]   0.00-10.04  sec  0.00 Bytes  0.00 bits/sec                  receiver
CPU Utilization: local/sender 0.3% (0.1%u/0.2%s), remote/receiver 16.8% (2.0%u/14.8%s)

Test 2 is the one to use across moca as it can saturate the bonded pair. Since you have only two moca devices, it should also be in turbo mode.

btw, the moca status pages are too small to read, but i can see 2 bonded channels.


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[User]
Title: MOCA Network Preparation

I'll be moving into a new house soon and would like to try and incorporate a MOCA network into my existing setup.

I don't know much about the home other than it has existing fiber service and the potential for cable service as well. I assume that I'll likely need a PoE Filter, a couple of MOCA adapters, and at least one MOCA-compatible splitter.

Since I won't know much about the existing wiring in the home, should I purchase a cable tester (such as the Klein Tools VDV512-101) to try and figure out what portions of the existing COAX installation are connected? Any other recommendations or guides for figuring out how the house is currently wired?

*** UPDATE 8/1/21 ***
Network has been up and running for a few weeks and it's been fantastic. Thanks to the forum for all the help - MOCA has been a HUGE win for our home network.

[Assistant]
abracadabra11 said:
should I purchase a cable tester (such as the Klein Tools VDV512-101) to try and figure out what portions of the existing COAX installation are connected?
Yes, including allowing you to identify and label the coax lines. (Other techniques can be used, but they're more hassle.)

abracadabra11 said:
Any other recommendations or guides for figuring out how the house is currently wired?
Obviously, check for available Cat5e/6 wiring. And contemplate repurposing it to networking if currently terminated for phone usage.

krkaufman said:
Yes, including allowing you to identify and label the coax lines. (Other techniques can be used, but they're more hassle.)
Any specific recommendations on which cable tester to purchase? Ideally looking for something that is intuitive for someone that hasn't previously used the device.

I visited the new rental house to trace some wires and figure out how things are connected. I found the following:
1. COAX connections in Basement, Main Level, and 2nd Level (all terminate outside independently and are not interconnected)

So I'm proposing the attached diagram for my network setup. I have all the equipment listed on the diagram except for the 3-way splitter.

A few questions:
1. Any changes or recommendations to the setup?
2. Is a 3-way splitter the only thing that I need to buy to make this setup work?
3. If so, can you recommend a 3-way splitter that's suitable for use outdoors?
4. Does the single input of the splitter need to be capped? If so, any recommendations for capping that port?
5. PoE filter doesn't appear necessary since all COAX is terminated locally. Is that right?

Thanks for the help.


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[User]
Title: Need MOCA help urgently + AIMESH system

Hey folks,

I need MOCA setup help urgently...
I have Internet coming in via Moca Filter and that passes COAX splitter to each room.
Sadly, my home doesn't have infrastructure setup for ethernet cable to each bedroom, so I have modem placed in basement.

So currently it's setup like below:
Basement:
ISP -> Splitter -> Cable Modem -> Asus Router (WAN port)
Splitter-> Actiontec Moca 2.5 -> Asus Router (LAN port)

Problem is that I have another Asus router upstair that I'm willing to use this as AIMESH node (Hard wired from Router #1 via Actiontec Moca)
In that room:
Coax -> Actiontec -> Asus Router #2 (WAN PORT)

All wired connections are working, but Router #2 is not acting like AIMESH node, actually it's not even being detected.

I am not sure if what i'm trying to do is possible, can someone please help?

[Assistant]
Please do not cross-post.

Asus AiMesh hard wired?
Hey folks, I need MOCA setup help urgently... I have Internet coming in via Moca Filter and that passes COAX splitter to each room. Sadly, my home doesn't have infrastructure setup for ethernet cable to each bedroom, so I have modem placed in basement. So currently it's setup like below...
www.snbforums.com


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[User]
Title: Odd Moca issue

Hi I am new here and also new to Moca. I have a Linksys Velop mesh system with 5 nodes, a cable modem and 3 Moca adaptors. I have the older 803m units. One unit is located at the switch connected to my router, that is connected to my cablemodem (docsis 3.0). The others are at 2 mesh locations around the house to increase my connection speeds there. I have a poe filter at the cable entrance, replaced the splitter at the entrance with a moca compatible one. Speed is good and I am happy with it.

The one issue I have is that the 803m all go silent (ports are closed and I can't login to the web or ssh) after a few minutes. a Power cycle will bring it back for a few minutes. I can always ping them and their throughputs are great and all lights indicate everything is good. They work as advertised, I just have to power cycle if I want to get into them via the web interface.

The units do not have encryption on, have been switched to a 192.168.1.x network using DHCP. Otherwise out of the box setup.

The only thing that is different in my network setup, is that I work in Industrial Automation and so I have a lot of "odd" equipment on my network. I have several PLC's, HMI's, protocol gateways etc. Mostly passing modbus TCP (if you know what that is) and all of them have static IP's.

Any advice or thoughts are appreciated.

[Assistant]
may be they get sleepy.
Seriously, contact GOCOAX directly although they do check in here from time to time in the thread they started.

degrub said:
may be they get sleepy.
Seriously, contact GOCOAX directly although they do check in here from time to time in the thread they started.
CC: @gocoax

I did try that and they started with the usual send us screen shots etc. I am not dismissing their support, it is important to gather all the facts. The issue is sort of a first world problem. It works for passing data and works well. I am well pleased with it and would not hesitate to recommend them to someone else. Do I need the web interface once set up? Nope and I can always power cycle and do what I need to do before it goes to sleep. On the other hand, I would love to learn why it is a problem. Maybe there is something wrong with my network design, etc. I just want to know for knowing sake.

I have an unanswered (by me) email from them. I will see where that goes.

thanks for the suggestions.


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[User]
Title: Can’t connect MoCA

I have Spectrum internet and I want to
connect MoCA in my house to create a two room network. I have two gocoax adapters. First one is hooked to the coax wall, with the out port going to the modem. I then have the modem connected to a router and the moca adapter connected to the router.

In the other room I have another MoCA connected to the coax wall and going to a Apple TV. I get green lan and power lights but no MoCA light.

I’ve attached pictures of where I believe my cable enters the house. What I don’t understand is all these wires with the ends cut off. I have a poe MoCA filter coming today that will will instal downstream of the grounding unit. I also have a three way MoCA splitter coming in a week or so. Please help.

PS I can confirm the adapters connect to one another via a test by running a short coax between the two.

[Assistant]
you will have to get a coax ring out tester to figure out which cable goes where. Then, if you are lucky, the coax between the two rooms will not be part of the spectrum coax network.

If the moca signal has to pass through that earthing block - it won't. You would have to get an earthing block rated for MOCA 2 frequency bands to replace it or install a MOCA2 rated splitter just downstream from it ( on the leg going to the spectrum modem) . That earthing block protects your house from lightning traveling down the wire into your house potentially starting a fire. You have to leave that or equivalent installed. It grounds the shield reducing noise pickup on the coax as well. Also, you would need a MOCA POE filter to put on the input leg of the splitter to prevent your moca signal from going to your neighbors networks. If the spectrum signal is weak, you need a 0 gain powered splitter to ensure you don't loose the spectrum signal due to too much loss (dB) across the splitter if spectrum will not increase the signal power.

Does the spectrum modem sync up with spectrum if you connect it to the other room coax port ?

if it doesn't then possibly that room's coax is one of the non-terminated cables in the box.

1) does the spectrum modem use DOCCIS 3.1 or 3.0 ?
2) identify where each cable run goes using a coax continuity ( ring out) tester.
3) draw a map of your coax layout with all devices and coax runs identified.
4) then we can help you figure this out. Otherwise, we will have to make educated guesses.

degrub said:
you will have to get a coax ring out tester to figure out which cable goes where. Then, if you are lucky, the coax between the two rooms will not be part of the spectrum coax network.

If the moca signal has to pass through that earthing block - it won't. You would have to get an earthing block rated for MOCA 2 frequency bands to replace it or install a MOCA2 rated splitter just downstream from it ( on the leg going to the spectrum modem) . That earthing block protects your house from lightning traveling down the wire into your house potentially starting a fire. You have to leave that or equivalent installed. It grounds the shield reducing noise pickup on the coax as well. Also, you would need a MOCA POE filter to put on the input leg of the splitter to prevent your moca signal from going to your neighbors networks. If the spectrum signal is weak, you need a 0 gain powered splitter to ensure you don't loose the spectrum signal due to too much loss (dB) across the splitter if spectrum will not increase the signal power.

Does the spectrum modem sync up with spectrum if you connect it to the other room coax port ?

if it doesn't then possibly that room's coax is one of the non-terminated cables in the box.

1) does the spectrum modem use DOCCIS 3.1 or 3.0 ?
2) identify where each cable run goes using a coax continuity ( ring out) tester.
3) draw a map of your coax layout with all devices and coax runs identified.
4) then we can help you figure this out. Otherwise, we will have to make educated guesses.
Click to expand...

The modem does work when hooked up to another room.

Ive never used a ring out tester, but I could go pick one up and try.

I have a Poe filter coming today and a moca splitter coming next week or so.

Is there any insight as to why those cabled are cut off?

If the modem works in two different locations in the house, you likely have a splitter or cables terminated some where else. You will have to find it. I don’t see two white cables in the demarcation box that are connected, only 1.

the others are from somewhere in the house and not terminated since they were not required when the cable company did the isp install. Normal.


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[User]
Title: Tenda PA6 - suddenly giving long ping times

I had Devolo Powerline adapters for some time, and though there was a problem with dropouts, running a ping -t to the router proved a successful workround. However, following an upgrade to fibre broadband and the heady heights of 76Mbps, I changed to Tenda Powerline units, two PH3 units (router and STB) and a PA6 (office PC) connected by cable. Since purchase in May all has been well, until a week or so ago, when speed at the PC has intermittently been down to 2Mbps with a ping to the router taking 150ms+. Nothing in the wiring has changed, no new appliances etc and I have done the usual obvious testing such as changing cables, sockets and ports (the PA6 has two). Absolutely no response from Tenda support despite four emails (chat support is permanently closed), has anyone here had any luck contacting them, or does anyone have any ideas as to the problem? (I am assuming failing unit)

[Assistant]
Update - received reply from Tenda support, not helpful, suggesting another appliance in use (there isn't)

i would test another PC that is clean.
And do PC to PC over the Tenda units rather than internet speed tests to check on their function

degrub said:
i would test another PC that is clean.
And do PC to PC over the Tenda units rather than internet speed tests to check on their function
Thanks, will do, but in the meantime I have used another Tenda P3 on the same PC and socket which has not had any problems (so far, but as I said the issue was intermittent and only long term use will prove). I realise the limitations of the internet speed test, and I'm only using for comparison purposes - the ping issue is PC ip to router ip , i.e same powerline network.


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[User]
Title: Are these ping times normal for bonded MoCa 2.0?

I recently setup a MoCa line using two Hirschmann Inca 1G adapters, between my AX88u main router and my AX92u node. Mostly to improve ping stability compared to wifi.

I have done multiple ping tests in the meantime, and the results are somewhat higher than what I expected. On average, the MoCa line has much less severe ping spikes and lower jitter, but the median ping is around 4ms higher compared to the AX wireless backhaul of Aimesh I was using.

Here are the pingplotter tables (interval: 0,5s), Pinging the AX88U while connected wired to the AX92u.

MoCa direct point to point coax:

Medium distance aimesh with dedicated wifi backhaul:

My question is, are these ping times normal? I use the AX92u for gaming and online meetings, so a low and stable ping are my priority.

[Assistant]
I’ve noticed the slight lag in my moca 2.5 setup as well, but it’s about trade offs. I love having the wired back haul, so not a big deal and we’ll worth it…

degrub said:
moca introduces a couple msec of lag.
I read that it will indeed introduce a couple of millseconds of delay. But I didn't expect it to be more than an average WiFi connection, which also introduces a few milliseconds. Someone mentioned around 3 ms and my connection is between 4.5 and 7ms. I'm not sure that is correct.

I recall seeing testing that indicated ~5ms of additional latency with MOCA. Your numbers look about right from that perspective.


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[User]
Title: Solved Need some opinions on MoCa + mesh setup

I recently installed a single point to point MoCa line to replace the wireless Aimesh link upstairs. Mostly to improve reliability with latency sensitive applications and games. The setup works great, but I'd like some opinions if the current setup is optimal.

1. Current setup
Right now, the MoCa line runs from the ISP modem in the utility closet to the router upstairs. This provides coverage for both the downstairs living room and upstairs. I moved the aimesh node to the back of the house to provide some more coverage in the garden. So the setup is as follows:
Code:
ISP modem --> MoCa coax -> router -> wireless backhaul --> aimesh node.
Equipment location(s):
Downstairs utility closet:
ISP modem
MoCa adapter

Upstairs bedroom/gaming room:
MoCa adapter
AX88U main router
The back of the downstairs living room:
AX92u (connected using the AX tri-band)

This has the following advantages:
All potential bottlenecks (MoCa/Docsis) are behind the router with has traffic shaping/Qos enabled. This makes sure all traffic is prioritized before entering a line that introduces latency or cannot provide the full 1Gbps.
AX coverage both upstairs and in the living room, as the node only does AC for the clients (It's a AX92u).
Most direct connection for upstairs, which includes latency sensitive gaming stuff.
Client to client communication do not need to utilize the MoCa line.
The utility closet is a lot cleaner with less equipment.
It also has a few disadvantages:
The MoCa line introduces some latency, so all devices have around 5ms higher ping, and the clients on the aimesh node have over 8ms more ping.
Everything relies on the MoCa line for the internet upstream.

2. Alternative setup
I was thinking the following setup might be better, seeing as it is common to use the MoCa line as a wired backhaul for aimesh clients:
Code:
ISP modem --> router --> MoCa Coax -> aimesh node
Equipment location(s):
Downstairs utility closet:
ISP Modem
AX88u main router
MoCa adapter

Upstairs bedroom/gaming room:
MoCa adapter
AX92u

This has the following advantages:
5ms lower ping on downstairs clients.
Not everything has to rely on the MoCa for internet connectivity, only the upstairs equipment (although my current internet speed does not max out the MoCa line).
Some more flexibility as we now have a mesh upstairs and can use wireless backhaul when there are issues.
Slightly better downstairs coverage, as the utility closet can cover the back of the house better.
And the following disadvantages:
Client to client communication between up and downstairs now need to use the MoCa Line, introducing 5ms latency and potentially lower bandwidth.
No QoS for the MoCa line. In theory one could max out the line by streaming to a client downstairs and introduce connectivity issues.
No AX coverage upstairs, as the node is now used as the AP/Switch upstairs.
So what does everyone think? Should I keep the current setup where the MoCa line is used for all internet connectivity?
Or should I move the router to the utility closet and use the MoCa only as the aimesh wired backhaul connection?

[Assistant]
I understood you are using MoCa adapter as you do not have wire connection between down and up stairs. If this is not the case I do not see the reason to use it.
For those routers QoS will be limit close to 300Mb - if your ISP speed is higher why to sue it?
MoCa speed can be to 2.5Gb not sure why will not be enough for you?

why you are not using AiMesh (you cannot set those 2 routers because of MoCa between them) - you would have AX everywhere.
Is always better to use cable connection (more stable, wi-fi can disconnect) if possible therefore I would go with your alternative option.

Adooni said:
I understood you are using MoCa adapter as you do not have wire connection between down and up stairs. If this is not the case I do not see the reason to use it.
For those routers QoS will be limit close to 300Mb - if your ISP speed is higher why to sue it?
MoCa speed can be to 2.5Gb not sure why will not be enough for you?

why you are not using AiMesh (you cannot set those 2 routers because of MoCa between them) - you would have AX everywhere.
Is always better to use cable connection (more stable, wi-fi can disconnect) if possible therefore I would go with your alternative option.
Click to expand...
I am using aimesh, to get coverage in the back of the house. When the main router is upstairs, the coverage is limited there. On the other hand when I place the main router downstairs, there is coverage there but it's worse than what I currently have with the mesh node downstairs. The coverage in the living room is the same for both positions.

The utility closet is to the side of the house, so you decent coverage across the downstairs floor, but little upstairs. By moving the router to the upstairs floor, you get coverage in the main living areas as they are right below the router. I can then move the aimesh to the back of the house to get coverage in the garden.

Maybe I'm overthinking this. It's less or a bandwidth issue and more a latency issue. If I move the main router downstairs, then downstairs clients have less latency to deal with. On the other hand, I cannot get the coverage I have now in the garden, as I have to utilize the mesh node upstairs.

Something doesn't seem right. I use AX92u's and the added latency on the node is only 1ms.

Also, your AX92u can provide full 4X4 AX access to the clients. Unhide the AX backhaul band and force it into AX only. The AIMesh will steer non AX clients onto the other bands.

Doing this gave us a massive performance boost in the garden as the AX band on the AX92u goes really far.


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[User]
Title: MoCA // Whole Home Partially Working

See attached wiring diagram for reference.

I have fiber coming into my home. The modem is placed at the fiber POE at the outside of the home (I guess that’s how they do it in SoCal). From the modem I have my first MoCA device splitting to the existing Coax cabling in the home. 1 of 3 of the receiving MoCA devices works properly. I only know that because it is connected to the router and we have blazing fast 200 Mbps wifi speeds (that is the speed that we pay for).

One of the other devices is connected to an Apple TV and that wired connection is only getting 80Mbps speed. And the third device is connected to a Samsung smart TV and it cannot even find an IP address.

All of the lights light up, indicating power and connection, but I can’t figure out what the issue is with the two lack-luster MoCA devices.

I hope y’all can help!

[Assistant]
Isn’t the apple tv device equipped with a 100 Mbit/s port ?

what happens if you connect an ethernet cable to a laptop at each of the moca nodes that are having issues ?

then there is this issue with the two types of moca modems
https://actiontecsupport.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/360077514072-ECB6000-and-ECB7250-on-same-network-ECB6000-does-not-discover-coax

So how is the router providing dhcp addresses to devices on the moca coax network ? I assume the router is connected to the moca modem via the router’s wan port ?

it might be easier if you place the router at the ont gateway and then connect the moca modem to a lan port on the router. Or is the ont providing dhcp services ?

icorn25 said:
we have blazing fast 200 Mbps wifi speeds
Sidebar: FYI... It's good to be getting what you're paying for, but you may also want to use a couple PCs/laptops with built-in Gigabit Ethernet ports to perform LAN speed testing between the MoCA devices, to gauge whether the MoCA devices are netting what they should (that is, once the obvious hiccups are resolved and your Internet download becomes the test bottleneck).

Common utilities used for LAN speed testing include: iPerf, and LAN Speed Test from Totusoft.

Beyond the likely culprit (the Broadcom 2.0/MaxLinear 2.5 conflict highlighted by @degrub), you may also consider a tweak to your setup:
Replace the Neoteck splitter with a model designed for MoCA, rather than a splitter marketed for satellite setups. ('gist: A splitter can't be optimized for both satellite service and retail MoCA hardware. See here.)
Consider rearranging the coax connections so that all MoCA nodes are hanging off the splitter outputs, with the splitter input capped with a MoCA filter and 75-ohm terminator. (e.g.)


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[User]
Title: Problems with gaming whilst another user is downloading a large file

Hi wonder if anyone can help. I have a MoCA setup in my house. Everything normally works fine. I have the cable modem connected to a router which is brand new. I have then connected from the router to the Motorola MoCA box. Then into the coax. Then in my study out of the coax into another Motorola MoCA box and then into a netgear switch. I have two gaming pcs connected to the switch. One is my sons gaming machine and one is mine. When I download a large file whilst he is playing an online game he is getting freezes lag etc. However if we are both gaming we get no problems. Tested MoCA speed and getting almost a 1gigbit connection around the house. I’m on 380mbjt internet connection. Tested both pcs and get 380mbit to the pcs when doing a speed test. It’s really strange as everything seems to work fine. I’ve also check to see how much bandwidth I’m using when I’m downloading a file whilst he is gaming and there is plenty of headroom. It’s weird it’s almost like downloading files interferes with gaming. But gaming does not cause a problem with other gaming. Router is a brand new qnap qhora. Switches are new etc. Everything seems to work great. I’ve even tried throttling my downloads and it still cause a problem but only when downloading on one pc and gaming on another.
It’s driving me bonkers as I love the MoCA setup is flawless apart from this one problem please can anyone shed any light on this?

[Assistant]
Gaming actually uses little bandwidth in comparison to file downloads and is more dependent on latency on the local and wider network. Have you tried using FlexQoS to see if this improves your situation? You can adjust the file downloads to the lowest priority which should ensure gaming packets aren’t as badly affected when file downloads are happening.

DanNuke86 said:
Have you tried using FlexQoS to see if this improves your situation?
OP doesn’t use an ASUS router.

dave14305 said:
OP doesn’t use an ASUS router.
Doh! I probably shouldn’t browse when so tired.. do I get a bonus point for trying to be helpful though?


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[User]
Title: Moca Adapter To Spectrum Modem

Hello All! I have Spectrum 1gig internet and want to go moca adapter to moca adapter from upstairs to the basement since the lines are already ran and want to hardwire as much as I can. I have 2 moca Motorola 2.0 adapters. The problem I'm running into is that the link light does not illuminate on either device after hooking it up to the Spectrum modem e31t2v1. Is there any way around this or am I going to have to run eathernet to the basement if I want a hardwire connection? Thanks for the help!

[Assistant]
Are you certain that the coax outlets are interconnected? Oftentimes, cable techs disconnect all but the modem line, leaving all the other outlets on the house disconnected from the active coax.

Do you know where your coax central junction is?

Thanks so much for the reply! So yes I've checked the junction line and made sure the coax that I am using downstairs is active via a tracer and a continuity tester as well as multimeter. I've talked to Spectrum as well and all they can tell me is that the 1 gig that I pay for is not compatible with the moca adapter that connects to the modem.

KyleKoolaid said:
the 1 gig that I pay for is not compatible with the moca adapter that connects to the modem.
Spectrum is wrong.

Can you provide more detail on how the locations and devices are connected? (text is fine, diagrams, however rough, can be better)


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[User]
Title: Signal Issue with Moca Network in my house

Recently I decided to install Moca adapter to utilize existing Coax wiring into Data Network so I can use Ethernet in other rooms. My ISP provider is Optimum online and I use only Internet service from them. No TV service.

I have installed Moca Adapter per attached diagram. Problem is I am not able to get reliable internet in my two bedrooms using ethernet wire. It will work sometimes and it will stop working. Again, I try to reboot my Modem and NetGrear ORBI Router and will work for sometimes and it will stops working again. What am I doing wrong ?.

Note: My Moca Splitter is installed in Basement but since I like to keep my router in Family room, I have modem and Router installed in Family room. I have ordered Coax Terminator so I can install it in open ports. It seems it is losing lots of signals at my splitter level.

Moca Splitter Model: BAMF 6-Way Coax Cable Splitter Bi-Directional MoCA 5-2300MHz (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01KCY5MBU/?tag=snbforums-20)

Moca Adapter Model: TIVO Bridge (ActionTec ECB6000) MoCA 2.0 and Actiontec ECB6200K02 MoCA 2.0

[Assistant]
I’d recommend shifting to an unbalanced 3-way splitter if you just have the 3 lines active, with the modem run attached to the low-loss output. Recommended splitters:
Holland GHS-3PRO-M
Amphenol ABS313H
Verizon 3-way MoCA 2.0
Antronix MMC1003H-B
...OR...
Amphenol hybrid splitter

Also, perhaps more critically, do you not have a “PoE” MoCA filter installed? You’d want a MoCA filter installed on the input of your top-level splitter (whether the current 6-way or a right-sized 3-way) to secure the MoCA signals inside your home, but also to gain the performance benefit of the filter.

Note that the Amphenol hybrid splitter effectively has a built-in MoCA filter, eliminating the need for the extra component.

lordofthering said:
Moca Adapter Model: TIVO Bridge (ActionTec ECB6000) MoCA 2.0 and Actiontec ECB6200K02 MoCA 2.0
Unrelated to your issues, but ... You’re aware of the performance difference between the standard MoCA 2.0 ECB6000 and bonded MoCA 2.0 ECB6200, right?

What is your ISP provided bandwidth - "up to ....Mbit/sec" up/down ?

With the router and modem in the family room and ALL of your internet and local traffic going across the one piece of coax twice, to get to the other moca nodes/users you may be giving up half of the bandwidth you paid for. It may not make a difference in your use case.....but if you can move the modem and router to the location of the splitter you can maximize the available bandwidth.

If you need wired/wireless in the family room, that is an easy add of wireless access point or converted wireless router ( in AP mode) with an added moca modem.


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Title: Translite Global TL-MC84 MOCA 2.5 not working with my Xfinity 1GBPS plan with dedicated switch and router

Hello Everyone,

I am using Xfinity 1GBPS net plan and my setup has a dedicated switch(SB8200) and Router TP LINK Archer AX6000

My Setup:

I have a coax port(Xfinity Internet) which connects to modem and then ethernet LAN1 of modem to my router WAN port.

I now want to use MOCA 2.5 in my media room to hook up my laptop.

I have connected the coax port(Xfinity Internet) to a Moca 2.5 IN/OUT coax --> MOCA coax to Modem coax --> Modem ethernet to Router WAN port --> Router Lan port to Moca 2.5 LAN1

Now, I am able to access the modem and internet but MOCA is not working. There is no light on MOCA port. Please find the attached images for reference.

Please help!!

[Assistant]
daliparty said:
dedicated switch(SB8200)
This should be dedicated “modem,” right?

First thought ... w/o reading another word ... is that you may want to install a MoCA filter directly on the modem’s coax port, as a prophylactic, to protect the DOCSIS 3.1 modem from MoCA signals. (Past threads have indicated that the SB8200 is sensitive to MoCA signals that fall within the DOCSIS 3.1 frequency range.)

Second thought... you may have the coax connections on the main MoCA adapter reversed. I would think that the “MoCA” port should connect to your shared coax plant, where you’re looking to traffic in MoCA, and the IN-OUT port would be used as a pass-through to the SB8200 modem.

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p.s. It’s possible that the MoCA signal attenuation from connecting the modem via the MoCA adapter’s pass-through port is sufficient to protect the SB8200 from the MoCA signals, but keep my prior suggestion in mind if the modem misbehaves once you have a working MoCA network.

krkaufman said:
This should be dedicated “modem,” right?

First thought ... w/o reading another word ... is that you may want to install a MoCA filter directly on the modem’s coax port, as a prophylactic, to protect the DOCSIS 3.1 modem from MoCA signals. (Past threads have indicated that the SB8200 is sensitive to MoCA signals that fall within the DOCSIS 3.1 frequency range.)
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Hello Krkaufman,

I am new to Moca. I just want to use MOCA in my media room for better network connectivity. As both my modem and router do not have inbuilt MOCA support. I got 2 MOCA adapters.

Living Room Setup:

I have connected the coax port(Xfinity Internet) to a Moca 2.5 IN/OUT coax --> MOCA coax to Modem coax --> Modem ethernet to Router WAN port --> Router Lan port to Moca 2.5 LAN1

Thank you.


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Title: MoCA to wireless?

Is there a way to wirelessly connect to a MoCA adapter? In other words, Router to MoC adapter at one end. At receiving, coax to MoCA adapter, and then instead of ethernet cable to computer, I want to go wireless (from MoCA adapter) to computer.

Thanks.

[Assistant]
Just connect a wireless access point (or router configued as a WAP) to the remote MoCA adapter. This is one of the more common applications for MoCA, nowadays, improving wireless coverage.

That said, if the PC can be wired to the MoCA adapter, directly or via a WAP's built-in GigE switch, all the better.

Yes, re the direct wire to the computer, but when I came up with the MoCA solution to my wife's home office set up, she said "Another cable? NO." <sigh>

So it's up to me to find a solution, or put up with the daily "Damn this internet connection" rants.

Thanks!

Bit of a tough position to be in, complaints Re: connection quality yet unable to install the most reliable connection.

Is the issue that the coax outlet is not near the computer?


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[User]
Title: Second device not working on home MoCA network

Hi,

I have Cox home internet service. I am using MoCA to run internet to a WiFi router and to a second device.

I've put a wiring diagram below.

The WiFi router is working fine but the second device is not getting internet. This is true regardless of which second device I use (PC, Roku, etc.). It is also true when I connect the second device using a shorter cable that runs right into the amp/splitter. And it's true even after I replaced the MoCA adapter.

The problem started when I upgraded my cable modem to a newer model.

Does anyone have thoughts on what might be the problem with my configuration?

I am out of ideas here and would really appreciate any suggestions.

Thanks.

[Assistant]
Are you getting moca sync lights on all three Actiontecs ?

what happens if you plug the coax going to the device 2 Actiontec into the amp/splitter port used by the device 1 coax ?

post a clear picture of the label side of the amp/splitter showing the cables connected, please.

did you replace the modem or did a Cox technician replace it ?

What if you bypass the amplifier/splitter completely and attach the non-working device directly to the MoCA adapter off the modem?

Are these non-working devices configured properly by DHCP but just not working wrt the internet (what about local access?), or are they NOT configured at all by DHCP?

Quick hits...
Good: having the modem direct-connected to the provider and isolated from any MoCA-infused coax is a good thing, providing the strongest possible signal to the modem, and future-proofed for DOCSIS 3.1, 4.0 and on -- given that the DOCSIS 3.1 and MoCA specs now have overlapping frequency ranges.

Problem: amplifiers severely attenuate MoCA signals passing between input and output ports, if MoCA can even pass. Given you’re using an amp with a built-in “PoE” MoCA filter, the PPC-9M-U/U, I’m a little surprised that you’re getting a connection at all. Solution: If you’re only doing MoCA over your coax (i.e. not cable TV), the amp is not needed at all: amps don’t boost MoCA signals, just frequencies 5-1002 MHz (typical); plus, MoCA has its own built-in automatic power adjustment, amplification and reduction. So the recommendation is to replace the amp with a right-sized MoCA-compatible splitter.

Problem: MoCA WAN not LAN. You've established a MoCA network to link the Ethernet WAN port of the modem near the cable point-of-entry to the Ethernet WAN port of your wireless router. The MoCA adapter at the router location is connected to the router's WAN port, right?

The Ethernet equivalent of the diagrammed setup is connecting a network switch to the WAN port of the modem, then connecting both the router WAN port and the second device to the switch. As a result, the second device resides within your WAN segment, rather than where it needs to be ... on the router LAN.

Solution[1]: MoCA LAN-only: The preferred, optimal solution is to move the router to the modem location, connecting their WAN ports using an Ethernet patch cable ... and then using MoCA to extend the router LAN where needed. The downside is that you'd need another device to function as a wireless access point -- or another router, allowing the current router to be reconfigured as an access point in its current location.

Solution[2]: dual WAN/LAN MoCA networks: MoCA allows for operating two separate MoCA networks within the MoCA Extended Band D frequency range; so you could establish a second MoCA network extending the router LAN over your coax. Drawbacks: Lower speeds, extra MoCA adapter required, and much configuration. The segmentation of the Extended Band D range, combined with lost spectrum required for signal separation, results in the two MoCA 2.5 networks having maximum throughput of 400 and 1200 Mbps:
* Network 1 (D-Low, 1125-1225 MHz): 400 Mbps max
* Network 2 (D-High, 1350-1675 MHz): 1200 Mbps shared max

So you'd need an additional MoCA "LAN" adapter at the router location, connected to the shared coax and a LAN port on the router, and then you'd need to manually configure all the MoCA adapters for their respective WAN or LAN MoCA network.

The additional cost, configuration hassles and reduced throughput make this a less than ideal solution.


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Title: Problem with GoCoax 2.5 Moca and Asus Router/Arris Docsis 3.1 modem

Hi!

Before I sell my GoCoax adapters, I thought I would check in here to see if folks have any advice. I'm running an AiMesh system, with a node in the basement that gets poor wifi backhaul, and set up the GoCoax modems to improve speed at that node. (Years ago I used Moca 1.0 adapters all over the house, and found them to be terrific for wifi deadspots.)

Since installing the Moca adapters, I have been having some trouble with my network, primarily reduced speed-- my system gives me 900/40 when I connect to directly to the Arris modem, or to the router without the moca adapters installed, but that speed drops to 600/40 and often less once I attach the GoCoax adapters. Worse, the adapter seems to make the network unstable-- there are many uncorrectable errors on the downstream channels, and the Arris modem periodically seems to drop the connection all together. My ISP download channels never use higher than 600 megahertz (I am attaching a partial picture), so it shouldn't theoretically overlap the Moca range, but I tried enabling only the high range on the GoCoax, to see if that helped things. No joy. I also tried using a Moca-rated splitter before the router, but that, if anything, made the router/modem performance worse. And I do have a Moca POE filter.

In sum, I have great Moca to Moca performance, but an unstable and slow network, possibly because of interference with my Arris modem. Has anybody ever heard of such an issue (I have been reading and reading these threads, and not seeing it), or have a suggestion? I'm out of solutions, and am concluding that high speed internet and high speed moca don't play together well in my house. Thoughts....?

[Assistant]
We need a schematic showing all devices, splitters ( and rating), moca poe filter, cable runs, from the ISP drop throughout the house.
Not sure how and where exactly you are speed testing when you see the drop or the network instability.

Thank you for the kick in the butt that I needed to go outside and look at the box (I always dread doing this), where I re-discovered a rats nest of cable connections and TWO five way splitters. Since I am now only using coax for internet and Moca, I took every single cable (and the second splitter) off the first splitter, except for those cable modem and Moca adapater (and ordered some caps, which I will use when they come to cap off the open terminals). I also reset the Moca adapters, which I had been fiddling with, thinking they were the problem, and, just for yucks, gave them ip addresses in my network range, so I can check them if I need to. When I look at my modem now, after several hours of uptime, I see NO uncorrectables (this was completely not the case before, many channels throwing uncorrectables after a few hours and most after several days) and power levels that are in line with recommended Docsis 3.1 levels, and my speeds are back up to normal again. Moral of the story-- don't be lazy. Go outside. Even if it's cold.

Glad it worked out ! Two 5 way splitters is impressive.


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[User]
Title: Moca doesnt work

Hi so i recently got 2 go coax adapters. Hooked one up at my router . (Coax from the wall to the adapter ) then i plugged the ether net into the router and also the adapter . Then i went upstairs and hooked the coax from the wall into the 2nd adapter and then ran the ethernet from the adapter to my pc. It says no internet . I need help bad

[Assistant]
The first thing you need to check is that you have continuity between the downstairs jack and the upstairs jack. You can do this by using a tester, multi-meter or if you have CATV hook a cable box and a TV to the upstairs jack and see if you get video.

If you don't have continuity then you need to find where the coaxial is distributed in your home. Might be just a splitter in the demarc and the cable to the bedroom isn't connected or in a newer home there might be a panel where all the cables to other rooms are terminated.

If you find any splitters be sure they are MOCA compatible. Also look if there is a MOCA filter installed that might be blocking the MOCA signal.

CaptainSTX said:
The first thing you need to check is that you have continuity between the downstairs jack and the upstairs jack. You can do this by using a tester, multi-meter or if you have CATV hook a cable box and a TV to the upstairs jack and see if you get video.

If you don't have continuity then you need to find where the coaxial is distributed in your home. Might be just a splitter in the demarc and the cable to the bedroom isn't connected or in a newer home there might be a panel where all the cables to other rooms are terminated.

If you find any splitters be sure they are MOCA compatible. Also look if there is a MOCA filter installed that might be blocking the MOCA signal.
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I have cable there . I unplugged my cable box to hook up the adapter so the outlet works . And i am gonna check for spliters . I just dont know that when i hook up my go coax device to the router that if the moca light should be on always or when someone is using the network

The gocoax modems have 3 lights pwr, lan, and moca. Lan and moca will flicker when in use. Pwr should be on solid.

what is the brand and model # of the cable modem ?
Who is the provider ?


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[User]
Title: Unstable MoCA and can't get bonded 2.0 speed

Problem 1: Unstable internet
I had setup MoCA network for a few weeks, it works great most of the time, but it randomly drops internet connections probably once every hour for about a minute or so. I did a little bit of research, and someone suggests that changing the band to D high might help, so I tried to change my MM1000 from 1150, band D extended to 1500, band D high, but I couldn't get it working. My network diagram is attached below. Here is what I tried:
When I change the MM1000 in the basement to 1500, D high, I couldn't get it linked with the WCB6200 (not sure about the MM1000 on the 3rd floor, it was disconnected at that point).
When I change it back to 1150, D extended, it works.
When I change the MM1000 3rd floor to 1500, D high, the WCB6200 and MM1000 on the 3rd floor can't establish the link simultaneously, i.e., when WC6200 is connected, MM1000 couldn't connect, and vice versa.
When I change the MM1000 3rd floor back to 1150, D extended, all works well, except the internet will randomly drop.
Q: Does change to band D high will help? If so, what's the problem with my setup, maybe the WCB6200 or the 2-way splitter?

Problem 2: Can't get bonded 2.0 speed
I have Fios Gigabit internet at home. I didn't use the MoCA built in the Quantum Gateway because it is not bonded 2.0. I believe all the nodes (MM1000 x 2, WCB6200) in my diagram below are bonded 2.0. However, the maximum internet speed I can get is around 600Mbps. When I log into MM1000, I saw the Rx PHY rate is at 687Mbps.

Q: ~600Mbps feels like the standard 2.0 speed to me, I was wondering why I can't get bonded 2.0 speed.

Another question: is there a way I can get rid of the quantum gateway? It feels somewhat redundant(?) to me

Thanks in advance.

[Assistant]
you have to shift all three at the same time, IIRC, if you want them to talk to each other.

Do you have anything else on the coax ?
If not, no reason to shift the frequency band used.

"internet dropping" can be anything in the connection back to the ISP hardware outside of your place. If you want to test available bandwidth across your local cable network, look up IPERF and threads here for testing bandwidth across moca.

GO into the MOCA modem diagnostic pages and look at the sync bit rate for each pair. If you are getting 600 MBit/s through the ISP gear out to some server on the internet, then you likely are getting MOCA2 bonded on your internal lanas that is above the MOCA2 spec of 500 Mbit/s. if more than two nodes are active moving ethernet packets, then the throughput for any one pair will be reduced as it is a shared resource.

Realize that testing local lan by using internet servers is not a good test and at higher bit rates is highly variable and depends on the hops, the internet/ISP congestion, and the server load.

Something else is causing your drop outs, what ever you mean by that. If you moca is not syncing at bonded speeds you will have to go find the bad termination or cable. Did you test each pair combination of the modems with a 1 meter coax and see what speed they bonded at ?

You will have to check with Verizon FIOS about swapping out their gear if it is even possible. i have ATT and they require their modem after the ONT.

Thanks degrub for the reply!

degrub said:
you have to shift all three at the same time, IIRC, if you want them to talk to each other.
I don't see a way to change the frequency or band on WCB6200. I think that's because it is the version's version so it has very limited capabilities on the admin page.

degrub said:
Do you have anything else on the coax ?
If not, no reason to shift the frequency band used.
No. I don't have anything else on the coax.

degrub said:
"internet dropping" can be anything in the connection back to the ISP hardware outside of your place. If you want to test available bandwidth across your local cable network, look up IPERF and threads here for testing bandwidth across moca.
Unfortunately, I only have one device that has a 1G Ethernet port, another with a 100M Ethernet port. So I couldn't test the full bandwidth of either 2.0 or bonded 2.0.

degrub said:
GO into the MOCA modem diagnostic pages and look at the sync bit rate for each pair. If you are getting 600 MBit/s through the ISP gear out to some server on the internet, then you likely are getting MOCA2 bonded on your internal lanas that is above the MOCA2 spec of 500 Mbit/s. if more than two nodes are active moving ethernet packets, then the throughput for any one pair will be reduced as it is a shared resource.

This is what I saw when logging into the MM1000. Nothing on WCB6200. I assume that might suggest I'm on bonded 2.0?

degrub said:
Realize that testing local lan by using internet servers is not a good test and at higher bit rates is highly variable and depends on the hops, the internet/ISP congestion, and the server load.

Something else is causing your drop outs, what ever you mean by that. If you moca is not syncing at bonded speeds you will have to go find the bad termination or cable. Did you test each pair combination of the modems with a 1 meter coax and see what speed they bonded at ?

You will have to check with Verizon FIOS about swapping out their gear if it is even possible. i have ATT and they require their modem after the ONT.
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there are 3 moca devices in your picture. - 0,1,2. you can use the mac address to identify which is which. Looks like only MOCA 2 sync rates.
here is a handy reference
http://www.techplanners.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Basic-MoCA.pdf

connect the two MM1000s together with a short coax cable. See what sync you get.
Connect one of the MM1000s to the AT device. See what you get.

If you get bonded rates, then you can start looking at the coax and splitters for issues, including termination issues in the wall connectors and short cables.

With a good physical cable plant, you should see sync rates of around 900 Mbits/s. That is what should show up on the short cable test between a single pair.


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Title: Help with MoCA Setup

I'm setting up a MoCA 2.5 network at my house for the first time and have a few questions I'm hoping the experts here can help my with before I start.

First off, my house seems like it is wired perfectly for MoCA. I have six separate runs of RG6 coax, all of which terminate in my garage where the one outside cable line comes in. Right now, the outside line is directly connected to my cable modem and all of the other coax is dark.

So far I've ordered three Actiontec ECB6250 MoCA 2.5 Network Adapters, a Holland MoCA POE filter and a Holland MoCA Rated 3-Way Balanced Splitter to make my MoCA network, all of which should arrive next week. I already have a TP-Link TC7650 modem, a pair of eero Pro 6s and a couple of Netgear GS305 unmanaged gigabit switches to complete the setup.

I've read through some other similar threads on here and think that I have a pretty good idea of what my setup should look like, but I have three questions that remain:
Is it OK if I put a switch between my main router and the MoCA adapter?

My internet installer put a 6 dB attenuator in front of my modem as I guess the signal levels were too high. Can I remove this once I'm using the splitter as it has a -5.5 dB loss on all three connections?
I made a quick diagram of my planned setup. Any issues with this config?
Thanks for the help!

[Assistant]
samlikely said:
I made a quick diagram of my planned setup. Any issues with this config?
View attachment 31498
Thanks for the help!
I have a very similar setup and it works great. MoCA clients get advertised speeds between them and close to full bandwidth of my cable internet service. MoCA is perfect for ethernet backhaul to wireless access points.

You should terminate unused coax ports on amplifiers, spitters, adapters, and wall plates in the house. Without termination, signals can generate interference on the line which can increase noise and potentially disrupt connections and network throughput. These terminators are inexpensive.

Coax Cap Cover, 75 Ohm Terminator, 10-Pack, RFAdapter, Coax Terminator Caps for Ports on Splitter, AMP, Coaxial Cable, TV Antenna, Wall Plates, Booster
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VWHX2FS/?tag=snbforums-20

How big is your home? You may have to add a MoCA compatible amplifier splitter to your set up to boost signal strength, especially if cable line runs are long. I went with this model. It is the "splitter" in your picture.

PPC Entry Series Active Return 9-Port MoCA Amplifier Model: PPC-9M-U/U
by NetBetShop
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B076BK1F86/?tag=snbforums-20

Best of luck!

1) yes, a switch is just an ethernet cable with multiple heads and some logic to have the signal go to the right place.

2) maybe. Log into the modem and get the signal levels for each of the down/up channels before you make the change. Then see what it looks like after.

3) i think you will either need a moca 2 rated two way splitter in front of the moca modem and the cable modem or a 4 way splitter in place of your 3 way. Check what frequency range the AT modem passes on its Out to TV coax port. If your isp coax modem uses frequencies above the high end of the range ( doccis 3 maybe or 3.1 definitely ) what you have shown will not work.

Bigwaff said:
I have a very similar setup and it works great. MoCA clients get advertised speeds between them and close to full bandwidth of my cable internet service. MoCA is perfect for ethernet backhaul to wireless access points.

You should terminate unused coax ports on amplifiers, spitters, adapters, and wall plates in the house. Without termination, signals can generate interference on the line which can increase noise and potentially disrupt connections and network throughput. These terminators are inexpensive.

Coax Cap Cover, 75 Ohm Terminator, 10-Pack, RFAdapter, Coax Terminator Caps for Ports on Splitter, AMP, Coaxial Cable, TV Antenna, Wall Plates, Booster

How big is your home? You may have to add a MoCA compatible amplifier splitter to your set up to boost signal strength, especially if cable line runs are long. I went with this model. It is the "splitter" in your picture.

PPC Entry Series Active Return 9-Port MoCA Amplifier Model: PPC-9M-U/U
by NetBetShop

Best of luck!
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Thanks for the advice, I'll get some of those caps and terminate my unused ports.

I think that the maximum length of my coax runs is probably 50-60 feet, which would be the one from my splitter to my modem in the diagram. The other two line off of the splitter are probably more like 20-30 feet. I guess I can try with the splitter I've ordered and replace it with an amplified version if I'm having issues.


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Title: MOCA on multiple lines

I'm helping out a co-worker redo his home internet by installing multiple Access points and hard wiring all of his streaming boxes, PCs and game consoles.
I'm going to use Moca for all of this.
Before, I go off buying things just wanted to run this setup by you guys.

His internet line (200 Mbps) comes in from one end of his basement to another and then immediately goes up to the Spectrum All in One Modem, Router, Access Point, telephone box,
that is installed in his wife's office on the 1st floor of the 2 story house.

My plan is to split the incoming cable with a 2-Way MOCA 5-1675Mhz Splitter.
One end would go straight to the modem and the other will go into the INPUT port of the PPC Entry Series Active Return 9-Port MoCA Amplifier Model: PPC-9M-U/U
The reason for this split is because right now he has a Docsis 3.0 modem but one day it might be 3.1

I, then plan on connecting the MOCA adapter to one of the LAN ports on the modem/router and connecting the coax end of the adapter to the Passive (voice) Out Port.
I would then connect the Coax cables that lead to the multiple rooms in the house to the remaining output ports of the PPC-9M-U/U.

On the other end I'll connect a MOCA adapter to either access points, switches or streaming boxes.

Will this setup work? And do you guys have any Moca brand adapter recommendations.
I'm planning on going with Actiontec but would like to know your thoughts on other recommendations.

Thanks

[Assistant]
Re: adapters... the goCoax WF-803M MoCA 2.5 adapters are the best current value, at $60 per.

As for the proposed topology, it would seem to require 2 separate coax lines between the central junction (where the 2-way splitter and amp will be located) and the 1st floor office (where the combo modem/router is located). Are the separate coax lines available, or would the gateway be relocated in the proposed setup?

Also, if looking to isolate the eventual DOCSIS 3.1 signals from the MoCA network using an initial 2-way split, and restricting all MoCA signals below a secondary splitter (the amp w/ built-in "PoE" MoCA filter in the proposed setup), the top-level 2-way splitter needn't be MoCA-compatible, since no MoCA signals would ever pass through it.

Re: the amplifier... what is driving the need for an amplifier? Does or will your friend also subscribe to cable TV services, or will they only ever be using Spectrum/cable for Internet? (The amplifier wouldn't provide any benefit in a MoCA-only setup, outside its built-in "PoE" MoCA filter.)

Can you elaborate on why you think I would need to separate coax lines? The Gateway can be relocated to the basement.
And I can run an ethernet cable to the 1st floor office and put an Access Point there.

Can you recommend a 2-way splitter for us to use at the top level?

As for the amplifier the main reason is because of the customer reviews.. a lot of people have done similar things to what we're doing..so I figured stay with what's working for others... They cut all their cable tv services about a year ago..and they'll only be using spectrum/cable for internet for the foreseeable future...but he did mention FIOS is slowly making it's way towards his neighborhood...so there's a chance for that down the line.

Also this is his combo modem/router/telephone box do you think it'd be possible to get our own separate modem.
For instance do I have to use this box because of their telephone services. Or can I speak to Spectrum and get something just for the telephone and go out and purchase our own modem..?

Please sketch out a plan view layout with all the cable routes , wall terminations, and devices for each floor.

Is all of the coax point to point (basement to each endpoint) or are there splitters in the wall or at the wall plate ?

If it is all point to point, for highest bandwidth, you can put a moca modem at each end of each cable in service. If bandwidth is not an issue (say 100 mbit/endpoint being adequate), then you can place one moca modem at the main splitter and one at each end point device. They will share and contend for the total bandwidth available. i would use goCoax moca 2.5 in the latter case.

If you have to allow DOCCIS3.1 on the internal coax, then you will loose at least one channel of the 5 available for MOCA2.5 and likely operate at less than gigbit for the goCOAX modems. If you can isolate the internal coax from the DOCCIS3.1 signals, then you can get full Gbit between each point to point or shared across the multi-drop.

FIOS should only cause an issue if they resume TV or other services requiring a box connected across the coax to the FIOS modem. If you can isolate, all the better.

i run a pair of goCOAX 2.5 modems for my dedicated home run from an ATT ONT to the ATT router getting 930-940 Mbit/s which is max. From there i pass through a CiscoRV325 (double NAT, 4 VLAN) switch port to each dedicated Actiontec bonded pair MOCA2 coax run to my APs and other devices ( a physical star layout). This gives me an implicit bandwidth limit for each drop of around 5-600MBit/s. The router is the limiting factor for any contention (no QOS) . i have 4 Cisco 371 APs running 5 GHz only. The layout supports 4-5 hardwired PCs/Macs for business and college as well as all the wireless clients they bring plus a couple digital TVs and a HDHomeRun OTA to streaming TV box across MOCA as well as straight OTA TV signal to one ancient Sony tube TV.
Rock solid and no reboots except for firmware updates.


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[User]
Title: News TRENDnet’s New Ethernet-Over-Coax Adapter Announced

Designed to connect Ethernet devices to a MoCA compliant network, TRENDnet’s new TMO-311C MoCA 2.0 Ethernet-Over-Coax adapter is available in two options: a single adapter version and a two-adapter kit. The TMO-311C not only provides MoCA 2.0 over coax but is also backwards compatible with MoCA 1.1/1.0 standards, and supports up to sixteen nodes on a single network. Each adapter also covers up to 300m of coaxial cabling.

Interfaces on the TMO-311C include one MoCA Coax: F-Type Female coax input, one TV Coax: F-Type Female coax output, and one RJ-45 Gigabit LAN port. Additionally, the two-adapter TMO-3112K kit includes 400 Mbps and 800 Mbps performance modes (bonded).

Available now, a single MoCA 2.0 Ethernet Over Coax Adapter (TMO-311C) is priced at $69.99, and the two-adapter kit (TMO-311C2K) is priced at $129.99.

[Assistant]
Why get this when MoCA 2.5 adapters are available at a similar price?

For some, because not all products are available in all locations, for one.


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[User]
Title: MoCA effectively operates at half-duplex internally? Performance using 3+ devices?

I'm preparing to buy a new house and planning out my network. It was built in 2003 and has coax outlets in just about every room, so I'm thinking MoCA will be a good solution for me, at least until I can evaluate the possibility of running CAT6 everywhere.

I've been spending the past week researching MoCA and have found woefully limited technical documentation on how it really works. What I'm wanting to find out at this point, is how bandwidth might degrade once you start adding more than 2 MoCA nodes to the network.

For instance, if I use all MoCA 2.5 equipment, that means I have 2.5Gbits available within the MoCA network itself. Now does that mean that bandwidth is available on demand to all nodes, or is it always divided by the number of nodes? I would guess the former, but I want to make sure I'm not missing any "gotchas" here with MoCA.

I've been reading that MoCA itself, much like Wifi, can only really operate at half-duplex (can only send or recieve, not both at the same time). So if I only had one client wanting to transfer at 1Gbps up and down simultaneously, that should be fine because the MoCA backbone effectively can do that at 1.25Gbps?

[Assistant]
Somewhere here, i think in the GoCoax thread, they stated that their modems operate in half duplex, thus they can provide full Gbit each way.

the moca nodes contend for time on the common coax. Most use cases this will not make a difference, just like for ethernet. If you need guaranteed bandwidth , you should do the moca nodes in pairs on a straight run of coax and connect them all at a central point with a Gbit switch in a physical star layout.

WhiteZero said:
For instance, if I use all MoCA 2.5 equipment, that means I have 2.5Gbits available within the MoCA network itself. Now does that mean that bandwidth is available on demand to all nodes, or is it always divided by the number of nodes? I would guess the former, but I want to make sure I'm not missing any "gotchas" here with MoCA.

I've been reading that MoCA itself, much like Wifi, can only really operate at half-duplex (can only send or recieve, not both at the same time). So if I only had one client wanting to transfer at 1Gbps up and down simultaneously, that should be fine because the MoCA backbone effectively can do that at 1.25Gbps?
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Mostly correct, except the 2500 Mbps (2.5 Gbps) shared bandwidth applies to the special case of just 2 MoCA nodes (TURBO mode, effected by allowing elimination of some overhead). Once you increment to a 3+ node MoCA setup, the 25% TURBO efficiency bonus is eliminated and the effective throughput shared is 2000 Mbps ... still approximating full-duplex GigE. (Basically, throughput is 400 Mbps per channel for MoCA 2.0/2.5, with total throughput then dependent on the number of channels bonded -- 1x for standard MoCA 2.0, 2x for bonded MoCA 2.0, and up to 5x for MoCA 2.5 -- and whether the 25% TURBO mode bump is applicable.)

Very informative answers, thanks everyone! I'm really wishing MoCA 3.0 was finally out by now, but it seems to have hit delays. But I think a MoCA 2.5 setup will work well for me, at least to maybe get Wifi Access Points on all 3 floors of my house if thats what I need.


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[User]
Title: Ethernet switch installed after MOCA slows down the speed

I'm really puzzled here. I've been running MOCA 2.5 for a year with 1 connection with no issues and decided to add another one. Installed a gigabit switch and getting only 30% of the speed on devices that can handle up to 100Mbps, no speed reduction for devices with the gigabit adapter. This is how it looks with numbers. I have a 150Mbps down connection from my ISP. Getting 180 Mbps on my laptop with the gigabit network card connected to switch - MOCA - Router. Getting 95 Mbps on 100 Mbps devices connected to MOCA - Router. Getting only 30 Mbps on 100 Mbps devices connected to switch - MOCA - Router. Getting 95 Mbps on 100 Mbps devices connected to switch - Router. Any idea why this is happening? Thanks

[Assistant]
alex12 said:
I'm really puzzled here. I've been running MOCA 2.5 for a year with 1 connection with no issues and decided to add another one. Installed a gigabit switch and getting only 30% of the speed on devices that can handle up to 100Mbps, no speed reduction for devices with the gigabit adapter.

cable issue...

or switch lan port assuming you are not using the same port for the testing.

I'm using the same cables and the same ports for testing this configuration: switch - MOCA - Router
Laptop with 1000 Mbps NIC - 180 Mbps
3 (laptop, FireStick and Android box) devices with 100Mbps NIC - 30 Mbps


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[User]
Title: Docsis 3.1 , Moca and Moca filters.

I just got a E31U2V1 Docsis 3.1 cable modem from Spectrum.

E31_2V1 Data Sheet Charter 1-page.pdf (dslreports.com)

I noticed that it has a frequency range of up to 1218 MHz which conflicts some Moca frequencies.

Also, 1218 is above the spec for Moca filters.

Currently I have a Moca filter installed where the cable enters the house.

Is this filter a problem with Docsis 3.1.

Docsis frequencies also appear to conflict with Moca 2.0.

[Assistant]
you should look at the down/up frequencies used by your ISP for DOCCIS3.1 to determine if the moca filter will interfere.
Your moca modems will need to use the upper bands of the moca range. You should be able to set that in the configuration page.

jea101 said:
I just got a E31U2V1 Docsis 3.1 cable modem from Spectrum.

E31_2V1 Data Sheet Charter 1-page.pdf (dslreports.com)

I noticed that it has a frequency range of up to 1218 MHz which conflicts some Moca frequencies.
Yes, DOCSIS 3.1 and MoCA specs define overlapping frequencies, which *can* be an issue. (see: MoCA vs. DOCSIS 3.1: Whose Spectrum Is It?)

The optimum solution, longer-term, is isolating the cable modem from the shared coax plant where MoCA signals are present, allowing DOCSIS to evolve however it wants ... 3.1, 4.0, etc ... without DOCSIS or MoCA getting in each other's way.

Shorter term workarounds (depending on the circumstances) include protecting sensitive DOCSIS 3.1 modems/gateways from MoCA signals by installing a MoCA filter on the modem's coax input port (when the provider isn't yet utilizing D3.1 frequencies above 1002 MHz); or configuring the MoCA network to operate above the D3.1 frequencies (when the provider *is* utilizing D3.1 frequencies in the 1002-1218 MHz range[1]), but at the expense of a MoCA 2.5 network's maximum throughput where fewer than 5 channels would be available for bonding.

NOTE[1]: One roadblock to DOCSIS 3.1 and MoCA harmony on shared coax, even if the MoCA network is configured to operate above the D3.1 frequencies, is the lack of availability of "PoE" MoCA filters spec'd to accommodate the shifted pass-band/stop-band for such a setup. They exist (see here), but retail availability is ... scarce(?).

So, yeah, check your modem/gateway to determine what DOCSIS frequencies your provider is currently using for your Internet connection's download/upload channels ... but be sure to do so via a coax link unfiltered by an existing "PoE" MoCA filter. For example, that MoCA filter that you currently have installed...

jea101 said:
Currently I have a Moca filter installed where the cable enters the house. ... Is this filter a problem with Docsis 3.1.
... would be blocking DOCSIS 3.1 signals between your provider and D3.1 modem, assuming your provider is utilizing these frequencies for service delivery. That said, if you're receiving your spec'd download/upload rates with your current setup, with the "PoE" MoCA filter in place, then it's unlikely that your provider is using D3.1 frequencies above 1002 MHz -- but you can confirm this by removing the filter, rebooting the modem, and then accessing the modem diagnostics to verify the frequencies in use.

krkaufman said:
NOTE[1]: One roadblock to DOCSIS 3.1 and MoCA harmony on shared coax, even if the MoCA network is configured to operate above the D3.1 frequencies, is the lack of availability of "PoE" MoCA filters spec'd to accommodate the shifted pass-band/stop-band for such a setup. They exist (see here), but retail availability is ... scarce(?).
Well, another speed bump (if not roadblock) to coexistence of D3.1 and MoCA on shared coax is what the MoCA devices allow for configuration. An adjusted, optimum MoCA 2.5 setup coexisting with D3.1 would allow for 4 bonded channels, per the MoCA 2.5 spec...

... but mileage may vary as to what specific MoCA adapters allow as regards customizing the operating frequency.

For example, goCoax's support page indicates the only options are Full, D-Low and D-High, allowing only 3 bonded channels when configured to avoid D3.1 frequencies:
Does the admin GUI also allow configuring the MoCA frequency channel you want the extenders to run on?
Yes, our products can support this. Our device can support MoCA D-band low, D-band high and D-band extend three configurations. By default, we enable all of them. It will setup a 5-channels connection, from 1125MHz to 1625MHz. We know that, many MSO use D-band low 1125MHz to 1225MHz to act as MoCA WAN. You can change our device to use D-band high only, from 1350MHz to 1675MHz, can build a 3-channels connection.
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Perhaps not coincidentally, even the Lindsay Broadband "PoE" D3.1/MoCA filter appears to support only the D-High configuration (1350-1675 MHz stop-band), rather than a 4 channel setup (1275-1675 MHz).

edit: p.s. To be fair, the MoCA 2.5 spec does offer this comment Re: the "transition band" between the D3.1 and MoCA 2.5 ranges:

"Note that the transition band between DOCSIS 3.1 and MoCA 2.5 will require careful engineering and filtering to avoid interference. "

... plus this statement from the "whose spectrum is it?" article:

"For example, how much of a guard band is needed between the utilized frequencies to avoid interference by the stronger signal?"

CC: @gocoax