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You're missing the point - or deliberately ignoring it. The link which began this thread displays an active Wikipedia administrator calling a fellow administrator, and member of the Wikipedia 'Counter Vandalism Unit' (i.e., your own colleague) a 'twit' - simply because his opinion diverges from that of the former. It is not about me in this instance - you have got that wrong. Then I get all this tripe about me & personal attacks. Sort yourselves, guys.
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` ::This claim is, per se-sick. No wonder you guys spill your venom on wiki, or your ``Armies`` fled, whenever stumbling upon even slightly armed adversary during 1991-1995 wars- frightened by images of your own propaganda on diabolical, bloodthirsthy Croats in black shirts who enjoy licking blood of Serbian children and cut throats just for fun. You live entrapped in your own perverted mind. `
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Thank you for experimenting with Wikipedia. Your test worked, and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you want to do. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. )
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` :::::What would you do ? Xerox pages of a book I, unlike you, read 2 years ago ? And which proves-what ? That in Starčević's political career the term ``Slavosrb`` was used exclusively for enemies (as he saw them) of Croatian independence ? The main ``Slavosrbs`` were Strossmayer, Germans, Hapsburg monarchy, and the so-called ``Khuen Serbs``- the Serbs living in Croatia and affilliated with the hated political regime of oppression. How come that vast majority of political representatives of Serbs in Croatia, more than 98%, had been, during the most oppressive period in the 19th century, collaborators of Khuen regime ? Truly-these Serbs (or Orthodox Vlachs who nationally ``awoke`` as Serbs in mid- and 2nd half of the 19th century) had fully deserved the ``Slavosrbs`` tag in Starčević's lingo-unlike the descendandts of Orthodox Vlachs who were Starčević's followers (Stjepan Miletić, August Harambašić, Dušan Kotur, Dušan Vlaisavljević, Milan Ogrizović,..). No one can rationally deny anyone's ethnic affiliation, this is certain. The fact that Starčević did this to the descendands of the Orthodox Vlachs is not a sign of political wisdom, or even ordinary logic. But, it must be underscored that he reacted to the denial of Croatian ethnic affiliation promulgated by Vuk Karadžić's pan-Serbian ideology. And this must not be forgotten: who had begun with this game of denial ? Who wanted another people's extirpation ? Whose idenmtity was forged, among other things, upon cultural theft and misappropriations ? Who spoiled the well ? http://www.hic.hr/books/greatserbia/ `
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yes, yes, thank you. good to know, but who decides what vandalism is? Does some stupid commie fag named redvers/
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== Personal Controversy == Thanks for telling me.
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`Welcome to Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia! You don't have to log in to read or edit articles on Wikipedia, but creating an account is quick, free and non-intrusive, requires no personal information, and gives you many benefits, including: *The use of a username of your choice, provided that it is appropriate. *The use of your own personal watchlist to which you can add articles that interest you. *The ability to start new pages. *The ability to rename pages. *The ability to edit semi-protected pages. *The ability to upload images. *The ability to customize the appearance and behavior of the website. *The eligibility to become an administrator. *Your IP address will no longer be visible to other users. We hope you enjoy your time here on Wikipedia and that you choose to become a Wikipedian by [ creating an account]. Feel free to ask me any questions you may have on my talk page. By the way, you should sign your name to your posts and comments with ~~~~. `
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:The user you mentioned is active mainly in articles about football and football teams, according to the list of contributions, but I didn't see (or I missed), amidst his recent edits, a similar activity of changing links to dates. If that is the case, though, this could be a case of sock puppetry. This is not always prohibited, but using more than one account/IP to break Wikipedia policy or disrupt the project is also grounds for blocking, or even more drastic measures, in extreme cases.
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==Requested move== Grand Master Dashi (Xiaolin Showdown) → Grand Master Dashi … Rationale: Needless disambig. ===Survey=== :Add *Support or *Oppose followed by an optional one-sentence explanation, then sign your opinion with ~~~~ ===Discussion=== :Add any additional comments
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==Hi!== Wow, that message took me by surprice, a pleasent one! Thanks for your encorangement ) Regarding 9/11, i have also tried to make the pages more NPOV, but its seems prety hard. Try reading the talk page of the 9/11 attacks, i have been trying since archive 13 (?), and even wrote People questioning the 9/11 Commission Report after geting tired of people calling the 9/11 truth movement as insignificant in size. Peace!
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Please do not add your opinion to articles. That violates WP:NPOV. Thank you. )
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A second revert on the same information. Oberlin College wiki article lists pair of Presbyterian ministers, John Shipherd and Philo P. Stewart as founders. There is no other mention of religious affiliation in the article. Does anyone have a source for Congregational? particularly at the time Snow was a student?
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` ==I call BS and bias== Until someone gets me a source that says Jimmy Flynn was convicted on any charges regarding the snack-truck incident, I'm editing the page to include the ``reputedly``, ``allegedly`` and ``reported`` disclaimers. Innocent until proven guilty. Furthermore, the fact that one of the sources is the notoriously anti-union National Right to Work Foundation calls into question the neutrality and credibility of the author(s) of the article. Also neglected is the fact that the ``owner-operator`` of the snack truck was also a union member of IATSE. I corrected that, but it's further evidence of the ``all unions are evil`` bias of the author(s) of that portion of the article. Jimmy Flynn may well be a gangster and a thug, and the history of corruption in Teamsters Local 25 is, lamentably, true (I speak as a former Local 25 member), but an article that aims to smear the entire labor movement based on notoriously biased anti-labor sources such as the Boston Herald and the National Right to Work Foundation just doesn't cut it in terms of Wikipedia's NPOV policy. Despite the corrupt elements, there are many good members and leaders in that Local and certain editors here mean to defame all of them through their patently anti-union propaganda.`
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== Soni's theorem == Hi. Can you please comment at Wikipedia btalk:WikiProject Mathematics#Soni's theorem. Thanks,
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`, 14 April 2006 (UTC) ::::1) To turn off ``Enhanced Recent Changes,`` go to My Preferences (in Wikipedia), click the Recent changes tab, and then uncheck Enhanced Recent Changes. ::::2) I truly don't know why it didn't add an edit summary. I use the prod quite frequently and I've never once noticed it not leaving an edit summary. Do you receive any warning messages, such as '.wpSummary is null or not an object'? 05:25`
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==YOU ARE A NO GOOD PHONEY== ALL YOUR ARTICLES ARE COVERT PRo-ISRAELI POV. THOSE EDITORS ARE 100% RIGHT. I SEE YOUR EDITS AND YOUR LIES AND I AM GOING TO REPORT YOU. JUST TO LET YOU KNOW ISRAEL HAS A WORST HUMAN RIGHTS RECORD THAN IRAN. ISRAEL IS AN ILLICIT STATE AND THE FOUNDERS OF ISRAEL ARE TERRORISTS. WHEN ASKED ABOUT ISRAEL, RETIRED BRITISH SERVICEMEN SAID THEY WISH THEY KILLED THE ISRAELIS...BY THE WAY THE FOUNDERS OF ISRAEL WAGED TERRORIST CAMPAIGNS AGAINST THE BRITISH, CIVILIANS TOO. WHY DON'T YOU GO EDIT THOSE ARTICLES AND MAKE THE WORLD KNOW ABOUT WHAT ISRAEL IS TRYING TO HIDE.
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ACUMAN IS A PHONEY GO READ THE TALK PAGES. THIS GUY IS FULL OF IT.
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` == Dealing with Geaves' trustworthiness as a Rawat scholar == Rather than get into another reversion war, I'll do it this way. I propose posting the same paragraph I put up the other day. Obviously, you premies don't like it but the fact is, it's apparent beyond question that Geaves has misrepresented the truth about Rawat's role in the Millenium hype. Geaves said: :In November 1973, Divine Light Mission had booked the Houston Astrodome, a large sports stadium with a capacity of 90,000. The event had taken on millenial expectations in the U.S. with devotees announcing and advertising Maharaji's appearance at the stadium as a second-coming, complete with angelic and alien visitors. Only 20,000 attended the event and Maharaji did not appear to have any knowledge of his American followers' expectations. He spoke as he usually does at such gatherings with no hint of messianic promises. Whereas, in a broadly-disseminated letter to all his followers, Rawat described the upcoming program as the ``most Holy and significant event in human history``, intimated that the festival wasn't just for him and his followers but the whole world, ``and maybe the whole universe`` and suggested that it was time for his followers to help him ``bring peace to this Earth.`` Any fair reader can clearly see the serious discrepancy between Geaves' account and the documentary evidence.`
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When I was a vandal(the horrible past)|When I was a vandal(the horrible past)
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==I notice that you everything you work on is related to Persians and other groups problems with those issues== May I ask you how you are an expert on such topics as scholars from the Middle East and their biographies or the Persian Gulf, and Kurds? : Oh, ya I also cited your statments about the fact that you wanted to cite that certain Muslim clerics have okayed sex with animals and children. How do you justify this statement and thought and even treat it like it could be true? :::IN reply to you this is what I observe, alongside others.... :These are your direct quotes on the Khoemini discussion page ; I had seen some literature out there suggesting that Khomenini approved of sex with children and animals. Now someone has added some of these claims into this article. I'm not going to take them out, but the article is going to receive a dispute tag until these information are verified. AucamanTalk Here is a direct quote from you to ; I've added some stuff about Khomeini's views on non-Muslims, but people might try to take them out. Could you keep an eye on that article as well? AucamanTalk This is verified on user:Pecher's talk page. What is all the interest you and Pecher have on Khoeimini and other Iranian clerics. Also your articles on Ahmadenajid all show a disturbing trend that you are trying to paint some sort of picture. It is like connect the dots. Here are a list of articles you have worked on; * Human rights abuses by the Iraqi insurgency * Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Israel * Controversies surrounding Mahmoud Ahmadinejad * International reactions to the Jyllands-Posten Muhammad cartoons controversy * Opinions on the Jyllands-Posten Muhammad cartoons controversy * Greater Middle East * Turkish Kurdistan Major contributions These are the pages you have made major edits to (or am working on right now): * People of Turkey * Kurdish people * Turkish people * Mahmoud Ahmadinejad * Ayatollah Khomeini * Ayatollah Khamenei * Middle East Wow human rights abuses in the Iraqi insurgency! Very odd and specific topic! Ahmadinejad and Israel! The Mohammed cartoons. All your edits really benefit in making Israel look good compared to the rest of the Middle East. Answer me this are you an Israeli citizen too? I think you are on an agenda. All your edits against Iranians (from Kurds to Persians,etc.) since Iran is seen as the biggest threat to Israel and all your other edits in the Arab fields. Also trying being a force in tension between Arab and Iranian and Turkish editors. All at the benefit of Israel.
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Reply to your comment == Dear Aucaman, I was a bystander during last few months watching your edits and other Kurdish wikipedians' edits and associated discussions, without interfereing. I have been asked previously to give my vote on the disputes. I voted and I take the responsibility for it. If you read my comments on the same page, you see that I only asked generally all Kurdish wikipedians to revise their view, without mentioning any specific point about you. To me the story was over. However I have been asked again to enter a similar discussion. As I said I was reluctant to continue in this way. I do agree generally with Mani and Zereshk and I think we have very similar viewpoints. I also have no doubt that four Kurdish wikipedians that have been accused of breaking wikipedia policies, they actually did so. And I have no doubt that they are attacking persian pages. About Cyrus, I read also your response which is again unacceptable for me. The guy is a symbol of an ethnic group and a holy figure in Bible. I suggest you not to burn flag of any nation. We should be very careful when we are criticizing respectable figures of different nations or religious groups. National heros, prophets, Gods etc are things that we should comment very carefully on them. Besides, you are by no means an expert on these issues. About your alleged ethnicity, it is not important whether you are Persian or Kurd, Iranian or Russian. You need to revise your views. If you were persian, you would need an even more extensive revision. This is only a suggestion and my personal viewpoint. ==
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:I take it your an admin. What are you going to do about this guys racist edits. He has me pissed. I looked at his contributions they are all negative and he is trying to portray a bad image of Mid-Eastern people. I even saw racist comments.
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There would still be considered heels, regardless of how the crowd cheered them.
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:I did not forge anyoones signature. I copied and pasted something from his archives so unblock me. =What Are You GoinG 2 Do AbouT AcuMAn???= I take it your an admin. What are you going to do about this guys racist edits. He has me pissed. I looked at his contributions they are all negative and he is trying to portray a bad image of Mid-Eastern people. I even saw racist comments. I am really pissed with this guy. I see what he is trying to do. Make Arabs and Iranians fight each other. It is low I tell you just like the foreign policy of Israel.
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So you admit to forgetting about Melbourne existing in both Florida and Australia, thereby validating my edit as justified, but cos you're so quick to judge you still lay fault with me? If you want a thing like wiki to become an open encyclopaedia for everyone and not just geeks, then ditch the attitude and processes cos who can be fucked learning them?
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`Welcome to Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia! You don't have to log in to read or edit articles on Wikipedia, but creating an account is quick, free and non-intrusive, requires no personal information, and gives you many benefits, including: *The use of a username of your choice, provided that it is appropriate. *The use of your own personal watchlist to which you can add articles that interest you. *The ability to start new pages. *The ability to rename pages. *The ability to edit semi-protected pages. *The ability to upload images. *The ability to customize the appearance and behavior of the website. *The eligibility to become an administrator. *Your IP address will no longer be visible to other users. We hope you enjoy your time here on Wikipedia and that you choose to become a Wikipedian by [ creating an account]. Feel free to ask me any questions you may have on my talk page. By the way, you should sign your name to your posts and comments with ~~~~. `
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Welcome! Hello, , and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. If you are stuck, and looking for help, please come to the Wikipedia Boot Camp, where experienced Wikipedians can answer any queries you have! Or, you can just type {{helpme}} on your user talk page, and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Here are a few good links for newcomers: *The five pillars of Wikipedia *How to edit a page *Help pages *Tutorial *How to write a great article *Manual of Style I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Where to ask a question, ask me or a helper on our talk page. Again, welcome! If you want to tell me something or if you just want to say hi, leave your message under the Talk Section of | My Talk Page
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:Yes, no hit and run tags please. Obviously this is far from perfect but it's no more weasely than any run-of-the-mill of the page.
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==Workshop== Propositions on the /Workshop page are rather tentative.
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` I am sorry for you too, but the explanation is very poor. Please explain WHY THESE THINGS ARE PROBLEMATIC?! Until you do that, I will remove the tag again. `
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== how Mazda and other automakers might be affected by a letter that was sent to the UAW and it's Ford locals == I have come across a letter that might result in a change of direction for the UAW and America’s auto industry. This is the main body of a letter that was sent to the UAW’s Ford locals: I am not a current employee of ford but I am an employee of a company under a union. However I do share concerns about how ford is hurting the future of its workers. I have been reading about how new Mazda models including CX-7 and CX-9 as well as others are being introduced onto the American market and imported from Japan. With Ford's controlling interest in Mazda, why are they continuing to hurt North American workers when I hear that Ford is having trouble at home? The Mazda CX-7 (and also spy photos of the CX-9) that I saw and Mazda 5, all imported from Japan, are UGLY PIECES OF CRAP that have no benefit to American workers. At one time I heard that the CX-9 might be built in North America BUT now I hear that a decision has been made to import the CX-9 from Japan along with CX-7 and Mazda5. When your current contract expires, maybe you can use your bargaining position to change this. For example, your Union can refuse to make any concessions to Ford until Ford promises not to allow any more Japanese import introductions from Mazda. Or at the very least maybe include in your next contract a limit on how many models Ford will allow Mazda to Import from Japan. You should require Ford to promise this before you agree to any concessions. If Ford is truly in trouble but is still allowing Mazda to introduce new (imported from Japan), then is Ford really telling the truth when it says the company is in trouble? Please let me know what you think. I believe the time has come again to make a stand! And if you like my ideas maybe pass them on to your members for their ideas. Ford has no right to ask for ANY concessions when Mazda is introducing new Japanese import models onto the American market!! _____ If the UAW and its Ford locals decide to use this letter in their contract negotiations with Ford then it could have a major impact on America’s auto industry. Union locals representing workers at other automakers in America might use the Ford case as an example of ways to protect their security as well. Automakers operating in America that do not have an assembly plant in the United States will probably also be affected as well. At this time Volkswagen does not have an assembly plant in the United States. However, Volkswagen must have a logistics/distribution network to be able to operate in America. They probably also have warehouses to store replacement parts (maintenance will be extremely expensive on Volkswagen vehicles if they do not have these American warehouses). If employees of these logistics/distribution networks as well as parts warehouses start to join Unions (some might have already done this but at this time I am not sure) then they will have the same collective bargaining power as Union employees at Ford now have. If Unions are organized at Volkswagen’s distribution networks and American parts warehouses, a possible strike can bring Volkswagen’s American operations to a complete halt and Volkswagen will not have the ability to sell any of its vehicles in America for as long as the strike lasts. I am using Volkswagen as an example to show that even automakers that do not have assembly plants in the United States will probably be affected just as much as Ford (if the UAW and its Ford locals decide to use proposals in this letter that has been sent to them). This might be the early beginnings of a new direction for the American auto industry that has the potential to add more power to the security of America’s autoworkers.
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== SuperDeng == Do something about him. He constantly blames me of vandalism, even though I have not done such. See the current version of the Battle of Budapest article. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Budapest .... ....and my previus version. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Battle_of_Budapest&oldid;=48401057
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` ==Carthage Abuse!== Wikipedia is a database, a Collection of ``Human`` Knowledge not a collection of Graco-Roman slander and biased. I am the poster within that article who has been purifying the article from vandals and trolls, Carthage did not sacrifice children there is no proof no evidence nothing, only myths and story's there for the article should contain only FACTS about my people! Without us having to deal with every slime that gets in our way! There are story's and myths that the Egyptians built there pyramids from the Atlanteans I dont see them having to deal with his garbage in that page. Would you please warn those vandals who have a clear cut Graco-Roman anti-Carthaginian agenda to slander other people and other CIVILIZATIONS! its time to end this facts is over opinion over fabrications over myth NOW lets see some action taking against the vandals Marduk Of Babylon`
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` == Veritas (that's latin for truth boys and girls) == Before the next one of you redneck fuckwits 'corrects' my inclusion of fair and informative photographs (most of which were taken by members of the US Military, all of which have endlessly appeared in international news media, and none of which anyone is claiming to be fake - correct me if i'm wrong on this-), answer me the following: If the wings sheared off on impact, where are they in the photographs? (and if anybody starts talking about airliner 'vaporisation' on here, then wikipedia is already worthless and I am wasting my time. its like a film trailer: ``From the people who brought you the magic bullet and WMDs, comes a story beyond all rationality.``) If the plane hit the ground before impact, why is the lawn unmarked? A 757 impact is either: (a) strong enough to bring down a steel reinforced world trade centre or: (b) not even strong enough to create more than a 9 metre hole in three concrete sections of the pentagon. (i'll give you a clue, both these things cannot be true) But go on, dismiss me as a nutcase, censor me in the name of free speech, live in your safe little world, and bomb iran for more oil. the first thing hitler did when he gained power was firebomb the riechstag and blame it on the jews. you fucking morons.`
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` Chinese communist scholars recently acknowledged its propagandism, which was widely broadcasted by media in Japan. ``Japanese large-scale invasion plans``, which was so often reverted here is baseless. See below. Director Jiang Li-feng, Institute of Japanese Studies, Chinese Academy of Social Sciences, speaking to Japanese historians visiting China in early 2006. ``...I felt scolars in Japan must learn much more about Chinese history. For example, someone talked about Tanaka Memorandum earlier. But actually, it has increasingly become a mainstream opinion among Chinese historians to think that Tanaka Memorandum in fact did not exist. Do you have knowledge in Japan, about such achievement of ours in history research?`` - Japanese magazine ``Seiron`` April 2006. `
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` ::``the real discussion is not about m/z or m/q but it is about wether the mass-to-charge ratio is a physical unit of dimension mass/charge or wether it is a dimensionless unit. As someone who is interested in physics you may understand that I have real problems seeing a dimensionless m/z on the mass-to-charge ratio page. It is the equivalent to have, for example, the ``electronic charge`` in the article of the ``electric current``. ::This is the problem that I think you're either misunderstanding or too stubborn about your POV to accept. Whether or not you want to discuss the usage of m/z it still is accepted by IUPAC, which btw is not in any way a minority but reflects majority opinion amongst chemists. The wiki entries on notations, standards, units and the like should reflect nothing other than what bodies like IUPAP, IUPAC, and ISO, etc. deicide. I think you'll at least concede that your particular view about m/z is far more of a minority position than that of IUPAC's? Because I agree with you, I said that you should be allowed the opportunity to add a brief explanation of why there may be confusion, along with a discussion of other units, and to add an external link to any reputable journal where there has been a discussion of the problems of m/z. The most recent edit still looks like an attempt to completely discredit the concept of m/z altogether, which is still your POV. Please keep the rest of the discussion about this mediation on the mediation page. `
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` :::::The above paragraph illustrates that the axis to this entire debate is your misunderstanding of WP:SELF. More specifically: your mistaken definition of ``reference``. WP:SELF seeks to avoid encyclopediac references. This means that all the facts of all articles come from the source and never from another article. The reason for this is clear. :::::You, however, choose to define ``reference`` very liberally, and take it to mean that Wikipedia should never include anything about Wikipedia, which of course is silly. :::::Somehow you've come to believe you are the last word on what is and is not relevant, despite press coverage and vast consensus to the contrary. McCarthyism is alive and well on Wikipedia. What's funny is these little witch hunts for irrelevance are so restricted in scope, and totally arbitrary in their focus. Do us a favor and go take your fervor over to Christina Aguilera. ::::: `
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Precisely. This is the reasonable argument. Thank you for stating it honestly instead of trying to go the legalese route like McCarthy up there. :
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== vandalism == I see that the Flattbush band article discussion page was yet again vandalized by randirice. I' diappointed in what is here, because of the fact that randirice makes statements and then erases his own statements among vandalizing the ones I and others have made as well. So, unfortunatly, it looks as if I'm talking to myself there...
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Yes Mr. Academic, we both agree therefore we do not argue, a scientific breakthrough!, there is nothing really do discuss. See Minorsky, studies in Caucasian history!
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:::If you want to avoid spoilers, then don't come to Wikipedia, whose purpose is to contain information, irregardless of people's personal feelings about it. Simple common sense. )
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No, of course not - especially when they're the ones doing it.
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You say that, in your opinion, there's no contradiction between Geaves saying that Rawat was neither aware nor responsible for the hype and Rawat's saying that this was the most significant and Holy event in human history, etc. I say that's absurd sophistry and that, unless you offer a reasonable explanation, your position must be considered entirely without merit.
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==Um== What is the show about? You're throwing me a bunch of names without any context whatsoever. And the theme song lyrics are violating copyright. )
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` I've moved my work on my signature to my personal sandbox. () Jonathan `
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== Technical articles on Wikipedia == Random thought: wouldn't it be nice to see more technical articles featured on Wikipedia? Polythiophene is an excellent article, but alas, probably will have the same fate as phase-shift keying...I suspect Rayleigh fading would too...
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No worries, I asked a IRC channel op, and they helped me. Thanks for your suppor though
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Please do not remove warnings from users page
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== Wikipedia-esperanza == I used to be a spammer, but I have changed my ways, and I have joined esperanza. May my IP address, which is chatzill@d58-104-10-116.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au, please be unbanned from the IRC Channel #wikipedia-esperanza?
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` :::You probably don't know/understand this, being new here, but being warned about NPA and such is actually an administrative step. More specifically, if there's an established pattern of personal attacks, it's the last thing that happens right before you get a ``you've been temporarily blocked, have a nice day`` message from an admin. I understand that you're upset about the AFD, but please remain civil, because a block isn't going to make things any easier for you. - `
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`== Demented Wildlife == Well, from what I get you're a musical group. Well, on Wikipedia we have a few certain guidelines so we don't end up with every up-and-coming performer with a bio (see WP:Vanity, WP:Bio and WP:Notability for more), so I'm afraid your page was probably deleted because it was non-notable. Don't take this personally, but feel free to recreate if you gain more notability. `
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` ==A rationale for peremptory norms?== Concerning this paragraph from the article, especially the last sentence, Some peremptory norms define criminal offences which are considered to be enforceable against not only states, but individuals as well. This has been increasingly accepted since the Nuremberg Trials (the first enforcement in world history of international norms upon individuals) and now might be considered uncontroversial. However, the language of peremptory norms was not used in connection with these trials - rather the basis of criminalisation and punishment of Nazi atrocities was that civilisation could not tolerate their being ignored, because it could not survive their being repeated. The notion of that which civilization will not tolerate because it cannot survive its repetition, seems the very cogens of jus cogens: how can Nuremberg assert a criterion so relevant to jus cogens, and not be said to have used the language of peremptory norms? This seems offered as an enduring standard, not a one-off. What evidence do we have of how the legal novelty suggested in the paragraph was perceived or discussed by either the participants or later analysts? On a separate point, I don't have a date for the language quoted in the paragraph, wouldn't it be towards the end of Nuremberg's 1945-1949. I wonder whether it somehow echos in ``The Constitution is not a suicide pact,`` which was from a (later?) 1949 dissent. `
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` PS: If anyone wonders why my previous edit has such an odd description... it is because the cat stood on the keyboard ) It was going to be: 'Say why I reverted the edit about the ``Ferdinand Incident``'`
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== The new picture cinches itGood work == The new picture of Lee Harvey Oswald holding a rifle and other incriminating evidence is much better than the similar one that was in the article. See, Exhibit 746-A from the Warren Commission. The new picture is much darker and conceals the apparent fabrication of the photo as complained about by Oswald before he was shot. We have to keep in mind that the fabrication of photographs back in 1963 was still rather primitive. The similar pictures that the Warren Commission had available are either blow ups of the picture (which are too revealing or have disastrous results), or the print is not dark enough to conceal the cut and paste job on the face of which Oswald complained. See, for example Warren Commission Ex 746-C with the face pasted on at the level of the chin. It was also a wise choice not to use Exhibit 749 because it has that embarrassing oversight where someone drew in what appeared to be the butt of the gun stock for another photograph and re-used it with the triangular piece of gun stock still drawn in. (See, third picket from Oswald's leg). It actually might be better just to describe the pictures and not reproduce. If the reader looks at one picture the reader might look at the rest.
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== Rusty Harding == The last version before deletion of the Rusty Harding article can be found at . If that does not meet your needs, ask for more and I will help.
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` ::Rather than being ``absolutely correct`` your edit is just plain wrong as it does suggests that the anxiety and alcoholism existed in the 70s not the allegations. Can't you see the problem? How funny. `
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::This just proves how little good faith you bring to the table.
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` == Hey Buddy == In the ``real world`` Graffiti is a subculture that he is famous in. Do you know who Borf is? D U H Love, ME PS F U C K y0u|2 GenErati0n`
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==User:Acuman== This user should be banned. He has made derogatory comments, intentional fabricated controversial and untrue material into articles, and deliberately disturbed both order and balance in the Wiki-community. He has been in numerous exchanges with other users. User:Acuman also applies double standards he says one thing for others and sees himself above what he demands and ascribes to other editors. He has upset the following articles in a long list of articles tied to Iran; Kurds, Kurdistan, Persian Gulf, Persians, Iran, Iranian peoples. The editors he has allies himself with are also irrational and uncompromising racists or bigots. I demand he be disciplined. I have seen the list of controversial and flat our provocative edits and fictional claims he has made and ask that he be closely watched by administrators, all editors, and the whole community. He has acted in a distasteful manner and has not respected the rules and demands of the community.
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==User:Acuman== This user should be banned. He has made derogatory comments, intentional fabricated controversial and untrue material into articles, and deliberately disturbed both order and balance in the Wiki-community. He has been in numerous exchanges with other users. User:Acuman also applies double standards he says one thing for others and sees himself above what he demands and ascribes to other editors. He has upset the following articles in a long list of articles tied to Iran; Kurds, Kurdistan, Persian Gulf, Persians, Iran, Iranian peoples. The editors he has allies himself with are also irrational and uncompromising racists or bigots. I demand he be disciplined. I have seen the list of controversial and flat our provocative edits and fictional claims he has made and ask that he be closely watched by administrators, all editors, and the whole community. He has acted in a distasteful manner and has not respected the rules and demands of the community. I am sorry about losing my cool but what he did was amoral and in my opinion amoral
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==YOu Are A SOn of Bitch Turk== Just to let you know you know nothing about Azaris or other Iranians. Turks are backwards and the whole world knows about your backward culture and people. You try to pretend you are Europeans when the Iranians are really related to the Europeans and do not care, but you Turks would kill yourselves to be Europeans or white.
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:::Who is Joseph CampbellImperator mundithe emperor of the world?
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::Buddy We can all see that the education system in Turkey is Third World from you stupid statments. You want us to take you seriously?????? Hahahaha. Iran is a freer, more developed country than Turkey. Go look it up and learn something instead of the false misinformation they teach you in Turkey. DO you know who helped Turkey during the Brd Flue? The Iranians. Do you know which country is the world's most educated Muslim country? Iran. So stop making us laugh and yes Iranians are Indo-Europeans like Russians, Armenians, and Greeks. Greeks are also the Iranians cousins and Iranians support the Greeks against Turkey. By the way the people you insulted were all Azeris and they want nothing to do with Turks.
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:::The above is actually very informative. Wow; it is really good to read over what is said in these statments they make you understand the occupational story of Iraq by the US and UK.
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If you're in any doubt in the matter, why don't you ask them?
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Someone has put this up for deletion yet again. Care to cast your vote?
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== List of shock sites == Someone has put this up for deletion yet again. Care to cast your vote?
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Sources? Could someone provide the source for this classification?
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` ==afd== Hey, MONGO, why dont you put a procedural delete on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/9-11: The Road to Tyranny (2nd nomination)? I mean, i created it, and its about 9/11, how could you possibly resist voting ``delete``? Chears! `
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== Conrad somethingoranother == How exactly is it vandalism then? I've done to him the same thing he's done to me.
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Sign your comments. His name has been published on several media sources. Quit worrying about such things if you can't even sign comments )
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If you have any questions, just add {{help me}} to this page, and another user will respond here ASAP.
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mainstream. If you can prove it is the majority view, you can say so (and cite sources, please). However, to claim that anything which is suppored by a couple of Nobel prize winners in that field is not part of the scientific mainstream is quite absurd
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== Vandalism by and Others == This user has reverted all edits to the Zeybek dance page to the Greek version - even though he opened the article himself. Th etwo references taken out are there for a reason - THEY HAVE BEEN CITED. The immigrants lowest of the low article about mistreatment of Turkish immigrants in Germany influenced the Turkish hip hop genre, for example. It is all footnoted if one takes the time to read and not just edit.
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After arguing and reverting the Greek Zeybek page - the man now comes and changes all the Zeybek links of the Music of Turkey page to the Greek Zeybek. Does this make sense? The two
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I just stated my reason for deleting that POV statement and now your threatening to ban me. That's typical. I wonder why you haven't threatened to ban Bletch who keeps on sneaking his bias into the article?
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Bletch just reverted the article.
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You need to accept that Cuba is a sovereign, Socialist state, and that at the end of the day, there's absolutely nothing you can do about it.
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(UTC) == Demonising Turks == It is obvious from certain Wikipedia articles that many people are using it as a vehicle to demonise Turks. Wherever possible articles derogatory to these people are being written, media and writings manipulated so that when a search is done of Google - only one version - a completely Christo-Armenia, Greek Othodox version can be found. It is seems that as in America, Armenian and Greek lobbying is alive and well here, too. What a shame that Jews, who found solace in the Turkish Ottoman Empire, while the rest of Europe was have progrom festivals have come on board, too. It seems that all that it needs to get the Jew and the gentile on the same wagon, is to beat the tired old donkey issue of the barbarious Turk. It wears thin. To be honest, I don't want Turkey to join the EU. I want you and teh editors and admin that are like-minded to carry on with your actions. We need to perpetuate the misnomers and misrepresentation of the Turks. Forget the Royal Academy's exhibition last year about these people. We need to keep isolating them. Because one day you will help in ending your civilisation by cutting such a large chunk of it out. I do hope you get what you deserve. 14:30, 15 April 2006
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So are you guys going to do anything about Bletch? Or are you going to sit around and hope that i revert him so you can block me as well?
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== Demonising Turks == It is obvious from certain Wikipedia articles that many people are using it as a vehicle to demonise Turks. Wherever possible articles derogatory to these people are being written, media and writings manipulated so that when a search is done of Google - only one version - a completely Christo-Armenia, Greek Othodox version can be found. It is seems that as in America, Armenian and Greek lobbying is alive and well here, too. What a shame that Jews, who found solace in the Turkish Ottoman Empire, while the rest of Europe was have progrom festivals have come on board, too. It seems that all that it needs to get the Jew and the gentile on the same wagon, is to beat the tired old donkey issue of the barbarious Turk. It wears thin. To be honest, I don't want Turkey to join the EU. I want you and teh editors and admin that are like-minded to carry on with your actions. We need to perpetuate the misnomers and misrepresentation of the Turks. Forget the Royal Academy's exhibition last year about these people. We need to keep isolating them. Because one day you will help in ending your civilisation by cutting such a large chunk of it out. I do hope you get what you deserve.
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== Demonising Turks == It is obvious from certain Wikipedia articles that many people are using it as a vehicle to demonise Turks. Wherever possible articles derogatory to these people are being written, media and writings manipulated so that when a search is done of Google - only one version - a completely Christo-Armenia, Greek Othodox version can be found. It is seems that as in America, Armenian and Greek lobbying is alive and well here, too. What a shame that Jews, who found solace in the Turkish Ottoman Empire, while the rest of Europe was have progrom festivals have come on board, too. It seems that all that it needs to get the Jew and the gentile on the same wagon, is to beat the tired old donkey issue of the barbarious Turk. It wears thin. To be honest, I don't want Turkey to join the EU. I want you and teh editors and admin that are like-minded to carry on with your actions. We need to perpetuate the misnomers and misrepresentation of the Turks. Forget the Royal Academy's exhibition last year about these people. We need to keep isolating them. Because one day you will help in ending your civilisation by cutting such a large chunk of it out. I do hope you get what you deserve.
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) == Demonising Turks == It is obvious from certain Wikipedia articles that many people are using it as a vehicle to demonise Turks. Wherever possible articles derogatory to these people are being written, media and writings manipulated so that when a search is done of Google - only one version - a completely Christo-Armenia, Greek Othodox version can be found. It is seems that as in America, Armenian and Greek lobbying is alive and well here, too. What a shame that Jews, who found solace in the Turkish Ottoman Empire, while the rest of Europe was have progrom festivals have come on board, too. It seems that all that it needs to get the Jew and the gentile on the same wagon, is to beat the tired old donkey issue of the barbarious Turk. It wears thin. To be honest, I don't want Turkey to join the EU. I want you and teh editors and admin that are like-minded to carry on with your actions. We need to perpetuate the misnomers and misrepresentation of the Turks. Forget the Royal Academy's exhibition last year about these people. We need to keep isolating them. Because one day you will help in ending your civilisation by cutting such a large chunk of it out. I do hope you get what you deserve. (UTC
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, 15 April 2006 (UTC) Going anon and reverting the pages doesn't change anything. 14:37
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` Last warning? A couple of posts above you said... ``Ok now I am getting tired of this. The next revert done without talking on the talk page and getting this worked out will not only find themselves blocked for a long time.`` Bletch reverted the article right after that, yet you refuse to take any action against him? `
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is he the same race as allen and ann from the doom tree story line in some of his forms he is wering the same clothes
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== JOSSI FRESCO IS A HYPOCRITE SOMEONE SAVE THIS ARTICLE!!!!!! == If there's a single Wiki admins out there with a bit of backbone willing to stand up to one of your fellow Wiki admins, who just happens to be a follower of a man many still worhship as God in human form, who just happens to be editing all articles about that man as anyone might expect, won't you please do something here?! If Wikipedia does not yet have a rule for barring individuals from working on articles where they're persistently demonstrated lack of good faith, it should. We all know that this is one of the serious weaknesses of Wikipedia. That doesn't mean you should be resigned to the status quo. Jossi Fresco's involvement re Rawat should read as the textbook example of what went wrong and with a little luck what was eventually done to fix it. When cult leaders or other infamous characters, especially wealthy ones who can afford the service, send their paid webmasters to stand guard over their articles, it's a problem. Jossi Fresco here is a problem. If this were Brittanica they'd lock the door. It's not but a little humility please, Wiki admins. Brittanica's been around a lot, lot longer than this site and they might have done something right over the last hundred years or so.
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Berlusconi got to power through huge and technically illegal advertising (still tried this way round), therefore cheating, through making impossible promises (1 million jobs- yes lost!!!! Get the frigging numbers right!!! Italy's had NO GROWTH AT ALL during Berlusconi's government- its best period of growth under Prodi), by colluding with tax evasors (never mentioned evading tax- Italy's biggest problem, but hey, he evades himself!!!!) and convincing people with low IQs and low education. In 5 years time, Berlusconi won't be running for PM, he'll be in prison very likely- or run a way as his friend Craxi did (using Berlusconi' jet, by the way- that's another crime of his- helping criminals escape justice). he's so pthetic he can't even admit he's clown till the end!!!!!!
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` Follow-up. You reduce ``false rape`` claims to people (women) changing their minds. But if rape is sex without consent, it does not require anyone changing his mind. It can be people feeling ambivalent or curious beforehand. Ambivalence or curiousity do not imply consent. Cooperation does not imply consent. And you cannot prove consent unless you have maybe signed a consent form, into which you could have been tricked / coerced to sign. Don't you see the huge plunge into plain old fashioned insanity the legal system takes when rape is sex without consent? I am aware that it is hard for women to get rape claims heard etc, I am aware of that. What I am trying to explain to you is this is exactly the result of exaggerated rape claims. If rape was just a special form of assault, there would not be little misunderstanding to what constitutes a rape and what not. This would serve the potential victims as well as everybody else, especially the legal system and the police. I am not familiar enough with the example of South Africa that you bring up. From experience, if a statisticly huge drop like 60% in a short time for something that is greatly influenced by social mores (which usually take ~50 to 150 years to change), then this is most likely caused by a change in the way the figures are obtained. You bring up the example of date rape not being covered by the definition of ``sex by force``. You have some pretty messed up ideas. Drugs are force. For example, the police tries to use knock-out gas to remedy certain hostile situations, and they refer to these gases as ``non-lethal force``. Similiar to another example, where people are ``just holding you down, not hurting you to rape you`` - holding someone down - by force - is force. Locking someone up in a basement, only to offer food and water in exchange for sexual service - is also using force (if you have thought about bringing that example up). The second half of your post mostly rambles about how expensive guns are. Yes, they are way too expensive, but the reason for them being expensive has a lot to do with government regulations regarding the manufacture and sale of firearms. As for an unsightly bulge when carrying a weapon - I've got some more unsightly bulges than that, and women tend carry purses perfect for concealed carry. So, women have an easier time to carry guns. God, I want it to be socially acceptable for men to carry a purse. But then again, it looks like total ass. Every civilized society requires all its citizens to be armed at all times. Because violence is the very foundation of a state - The state removes the right to be violent to each other from the people, and instead claims a monopoly on violence, and resolves disputes with a legal system, and enforces the laws with an armed police force. But when the state is the only one controlling violence in its controlled territory, nobody controls the state to prevent government abuse, totalitarian laws, dictatorships. Aside from discouraging small time petty criminals, an armed civil population has the benefit of being able to remove a government once it no longer serves its purpose - that is, the well-being of the citizens - and replace it with a new government, preferrably with the severed heads of the old goverment decorating the state capital just to remind the new goverment what happens when they step out of line. As such, any effort to outlaw an armed civil society must be punished harshly.`
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:i wasnt reverting as u see just fixing the article back. i didnt know fixing the articles from vandalism could be considered 3rr. also the vandalism was over 3 hours ago. ( )
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: 85.97.8.133 is NOT me and not my ip either. Please check my ip always using, u will understand that my ip is different. ( )
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: Oh sorry yes thats my ip, i thought you were talking about the similar ip that was editing the article right after me. But i never logged out and edited that article with my ip number 85.97.8.133. I dont understand why you think i did such a thing? i only reverted that article 3 times, the others were not reverting and i also suggested the issue to be discussed before u blocked me. ( )
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:I really had to calm down to not curse you out. Get out of my talk page. NOW!
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I know. But some people make it hard. That guy just told my to add info to the talk page, never mind the external links section!
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==Thanks== Oh thanks for your help. i am new to wikipedia, so don't hesitate to correct me on anything I am doing wrong.
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` But I am blocked from this IP address, a PC not used by anyone else. This is the message I get when I try to edit:- 'Your user name or IP address has been blocked from editing. You were blocked by Arwel Parry for the following reason (see our blocking policy): ``Repeat attack on subject of article; surreptitious editing of external links to point at attack sites`` Your IP address is 83.138.136.90.' I'm not even sure that that is my IP address. `
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| true
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user
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blocked
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train
| false
|
48,604,793
|
Earlier I somehow got a link to the offences referred to, and it would appear that 83.138.136.90 is someone and somewhere else altogether, who has done edits unrecognisable to me.
| 2,006
| true
|
user
|
blocked
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train
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