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mommit
I totally get it. But if the doors were locked and you slept for 20 min . Is it illegal? What did the cop say
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In my experience, amber alerts to my phone *only* include car descriptions, never descriptions of the child or suspect
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Once my sister and I were with my dad driving to Canada and when we crossed the border BP separated us, searched the car, and searched and deep interviewed my dad because his car matched a description! My Mom was in another car with my brother, other sister, and cousin and everyone had to wait for hours. My sister and ...
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Yeah I’ve seen and heard of parents resting while kiddos sleep many times. Has to be 100x more common than drugged out parents in the car.
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I’m with you, I have never heard nor seen such a thing! Now I’m not completely naive; I know some people use drugs and some of those people have children. It’s definitely not where my mind would go if I saw a parent and a baby asleep in a car, though!
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Apparently they could not. I can think of so many things that would stop someone from doing this, ranging from "pregnant and walking an extra step is just too much" to "scary-looking and worried about scaring OP". We're not going to know why they chose this way to show concern, but it's better to try and help in an i...
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I see this as "this is why police should not be a bunch of gun-toting high school bullies who might murder someone when they arrive", but you do have a good point.
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Ehhhhhh I work in the hospital, and we get a LOT of overdoses in the emergency room. A lot of the time the patient is straight up dangerous. They wake up VIOLENT and immediately start swinging and looking for weapons. It is actually better to keep at a safe distance and let police check on the situation. Imagine if ...
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Cops almost always escalate every situation. Cops are a last resort because when you call them to “help” you are literally putting that person’s life at risk.
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Several. Walk around the car to check for consciousness. Tap on the window. Look in the car for any clear signs of a mess, or signs they’re living in their car. If there was genuine concern, cops aren’t the first move to make. This woman was literally awake. It’s great that she had a positive experience with the cop wh...
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But also lets be real, if we’re making extreme assumptions here, it could have very well been some entitled bitch who made the call out of some “this is my good deed of the day” mindset. You’re right, you never know
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It’s also downright dangerous to send cops into a situation that might be totally fine without being fairly sure they’re needed.
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Whoa. I'm so sorry to hear things are this bad in your area. That's so scary!
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I’m not anti police. My dad was police. I’ve had to come to understand the reality my wife’s family has lived through though. They live in Houston and have been through the ringer with police and the justice system. They know that the police showing up could end with someone dead or in a cage for years. Their hesitancy...
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Yep, it’s a way to “fix” the unhoused. This is in Los Angeles
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Exactly. Drug addiction knows no boundaries. I’ve known plenty of “professionals” who were addicts! Clean, well put together people too. I myself was one. Been clean over a decade now thankfully.
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You are right. Thank you for this perspective. Better safe than sorry I guess.
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Not everyone is comfortable approaching strangers like that.
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So anyone waiting in the parking lot for a store to open could potentially get a ticket for loitering? Waiting outside of a restaurant for your to go order could be considered loitering. I Doordash part time and half my time is spent sitting in a parking lot waiting for an order. I doubt any cop would write her up for ...
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That’s a good question I honestly have no idea. The cop just said that someone called because they though I was sleeping and they were worried.
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Same. Even if you’re driving and one of those computerized signs will only give car details (which, obvious. It’d be impossible to give full descriptions of people on those.) So depending on how she saw the amber alert the car is likely the only detail she would have known.
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Weird. We always get physical descriptions of the child and suspect. Then on the local police facebook it will have pictures of them most the time too.
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I've noticed that my local news has been significantly less likely to mention physical descriptions over the last couple of years, even when giving an update on a suspect at large. I'm in Canada, but I suspect that this may stem from all of the horrible tragedies in the US where especially black people were dangerously...
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Maybe this depends on state? I'm in Texas and our amber alerts frequently include the suspect and/or child's race, age, name, and description of their clothing via text to my cell phone alert.
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Which doesn't make sense. I'd like to know what the child looks like. Their name.
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I got picked for a random search coming back across the border from Mexico when I was 10. Literally terrified me cause they started pulling me into a room from my parents & had me pull my pockets out, etc. I even had to answer a number of questions from them, and of course I couldn't understand that I wasnt *in ...
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I’m just waiting for OP to post one single video of a dead parent in a car with a kid in the back. That’s such a weird thing to claim, watching soooo many videos of people drugged out with babies in the back. I’m not saying it doesn’t happen that people overdose with kids in the car, I’m doubting that there are so ma...
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I wish my mind didn’t instantly go there. I’m from a place that’s suffering immensely from the heroin epidemic. I can name over a dozen people who have died of ODs, my best friend included. I didn’t even have to read the post- I saw the title and my mind instantly went to “the people prob assumed it was an OD”. Sad wor...
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It's a shame there isn't some other social service we could call in these situations where we really just want to help but feel either unqualified or ill equipped to help on our own.
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Well thats the thing. In my situation at the time I was completely unqualified to be the person checking on the man in the car. Not only could I not help him but in the end I get to be haunted by his image for the rest of my life. It undoubtedly would have been a better choice for me to just call the cops.
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I mean totally. But even so, if there actually was something wrong with OP that entitled bitch might have saved a life or two so in the end I think the welfare check was the right move even if it wasn't in good faith. And I say this as someone who hangs out in their car with their sleeping baby all the damn time. I swe...
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Yup. My aunt was a counselor and drug addict. She legit counseled teens at a local school through their drug addiction and was an addict herself.
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Very true. And congrats that is a huge accomplishment.
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Lol I’m gonna be madder than any junkie if some Karen calls the cops on me during my five seconds of peace.
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The way loitering works is either you have a specific reason to be on the property or you don’t
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She wasn’t waiting for a store to open
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If my kids were with me and they were both sleeping. Let’s say I had a dr appt for them and I was early. (Never would happen) but let’s say it did. I feel that it would be reasonable for me to set an alarm and catch a quickie nap. Not hurting anyone or being unsafe really to me.
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This must depend on state, because I'm in Texas and my cell phone alerts almost always include a description, sometimes even names.
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There’s a body cam video of police responding to a parent(s) overdosed in the front seats while their kids are in the back. “Parents overdosed while kids in car” search returned videos, articles and galore so, there ya have it.
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Well first off I said TOO many. I didn’t say sooo many. Why would I lie? Secondly, have you seen EVERYTHING on the internet? Of course not. One video is too many. But I’ve probably seen two or three of these types of videos. I live in the US where there is a massive fentanyl epidemic. This kind of things happens whet...
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Yeah I’m with you there. I think it’s statistically far safer for all involved for a civilian to walk up and actually check on someone in a car than to call in someone with a gun because they’re too scared to actually look at what is going on for fear of violence from a drug user or encountering a dead body.
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It really is a shame. We really need to rethink policing in this country.
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Social worker here. They are starting to be more collaborative programs with social workers and police forces. Mostly because Social workers with a MSW is trained for 5+ years in managing mental health vs most cops.
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On the flipside I can understand why you'd need to have someone in some kind of "security force" role doing these checks when there are so many cases of addicts or mentally ill people becoming violent with those trying to help them. I wouldn't want to be a social worker alone in those situations. In my opinion we hav...
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There is in my area, and our system recently got a grant to expand training nationally. Instead of the police, we call for CAHOOTS if we think someone needs a welfare check. Still a 911/emergency call, but if the person appears to be unarmed and/or nonviolent they send a CAHOOTS team instead of police officers.
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You investigated enough to know he was in trouble. If they were close enough to this woman’s car to see they were both resting in there (and concerned enough to make the call) they were close enough to take a peek in the driver seat and see she was awake and on her phone. As someone who’s been in this pretty much exact...
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And she has one. She is going inside a Marshalls once her child wakes up. She drove to the store with intent to shop. Her baby is asleep. Once baby wakes up, she goes inside. It would be different if OP was there before/after business hours. Obviously not the case here. Alsi, are there signs posted? Was OP asked to lea...
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Your right…She was waiting for her baby to wake up before entering a store.
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In Ontario it's the same.
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I’m inserting myself in this conversation because I couldn’t agree more with your last sentence. Too many people on Reddit need to touch grass. Also, to add to your point, my own cousin’s wife was on the news and arrested for driving with the kids in the car while on heroin! You’re right, it’s too prevalent.
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Have you seen videos of police escalating to violence where it’s utterly uncalled for? I can provide hundreds of those. Don’t call the police because you’re uncomfortable. Call if you’re sure they are necessary. Most drug users don’t fly off the handle and commit murder because someone walked by their car.
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It might be safer for the person in the car but it's not safer for the civilian.
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Amen
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That's good to hear!
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I mean, there's plenty of everything to go around. We could give every single homeless person a free apartment. We could give rehab to everyone who needs it. It is well within our abilities as a society. We just won't because Jeff Bezos buying his 20th yacht is more important.
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It sucks that you went through that. I got pulled over once and accused of "throwing a joint out of my car" when what I was really doing was driving my baby around so he could sleep. I didn't even smoke. And the cop kept shining his flashlight in my son's face and making him cry and it was super upsetting at the time. ...
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The cop was doing their job. It was more than likely a security guard who called. Their job is “to serve and report” which is fancy for keeping tabs on people and calling the cops when needed. Most civilians do not want to sit on hold while they wait in line in order to make a police report about these things. calling ...
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I simply don’t believe our fears should be converted to risking someone else being caged or killed for fear of looking into a car. I’m terrified my black wife and daughter would be put into that situation because someone was scared to check on them.
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I believe that if you are a concerned citizen, you should think about the potential consequences you could cause for an innocent person before deciding the right thing to do is involving the police, I stand by that hard. We can agree to disagree, but I’m highly against just calling the cops on a whim or an assumption. ...
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What you’re saying is legit and I never said otherwise. My original comment is that no one would ever think she was loitering (based on the info that was given). Police were not called because she was sitting outside in her car parked in the lot. Police were called because they thought someone was asleep/hurt/dead in a...
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While I sympathize with your situation, I am not, nor should I be, required to put myself at risk of a potentially violent confrontation with a stranger in order to protect a vulnerable child. The only thing I consider myself obligated to do is ensure that the adult in question is actually asleep or passed out and not ...
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I agree 100%. Negligently calling the police without knowing that they need to be there is uncalled for. If you can’t stomach driving or walking close enough to the car to see if there is an actual problem, don’t call the people with guns. It could cost someone their life.
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Any cop can’t come after someone for napping. It’s about WHERE you’re napping. Even if it’s perceived napping. Then they say hey thats loitering and I need you to take it somewhere else. Even truckers have to follow that one. The only difference is you can’t see them laying down, and they don’t usually have kids.
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You’re also not required to call police. We walk past people in their cars every day without devolving into violence. I am sensitive to the dangers women face that I don’t. I don’t want you to take unnecessary risk, but I also don’t want you to risk someone else’s safety because you’re concerned without getting close e...
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I’d love to be the person that’s like “it’s not that deep,” but it really is that deep.
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Are they still teaching reading comprehension in schools since I graduated? Whew chile, you have a good night sweetheart.
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Have done this many times can confirm it’s awesome also thankful for being a small enough mom to fit inside
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Just put the kid to bed and I’m doing the same thing but with a corona seltzer....cheers mama
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Stole my son's sprinkler today when he decided to play in the dirt!
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Yes!!! I do the same and just close my eyes, pretending I’m in paradise
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My husband and I ended up chilling in our little 8 ft pool while our son wanted out to go play in his sand box. Alright then kid. We'll enjoy the cool water.
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Hell. Yes.
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My kind of mom friend! Cheers!
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I plan on doing the same tomorrow
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Dude I do this way too often
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Fun, mommas gotta beat the heat! Off topic, but how do you change the battery on your watch?? I have the same kind (I think) and I can't figure out how to access the back.
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lol I'm five months pregnant and SO ENVIOUS!!
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It had to be done.
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Yasss queen!
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One of the few times I feel blessed to have short legs.
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Same! Baby is down, mama just cracked open a bud light seltzer. Salute
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I contemplated doing that as well.
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Amen.
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A wise decision, in my opinion.
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Mine is a Fitbit charge 2 so it's rechargeable.
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Salute!
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Thank you!
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Congrats on your absolutely beautiful family! I just had my second eight weeks ago & though it has been exhausting at times it’s a wonderful experience. Wishing you well!
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So many hands helping! So precious. Congratulations.
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Congratulations!
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Congratulations!! I’ll be going through this in a couple months too!
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Aw baby’s little hands are still blue. Adorable kiddos momma! And let me tell you, when baby gets bigger and they start interacting with each other, it will melt your freaking heart into a puddle at their feet.
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I have an older boy and a younger girl too - it’s the BEST! A million congratulations!
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He looks so gentle when holding his little brother! Congrats to you, was the birth ok?
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So sweet! We decided on 2 and done too, so my husband got a vasectomy the same day as my six week checkup.
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Aw, how sweet! What's the age difference? My girls are 5 weeks and almost 20 months. I love the closeness.
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Congratulations
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Thank you SO much! Congratulations to you also :)