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      "text": "About our ideas... what we took to the professor got completely exposed, didn’t it?",
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      "korean_text": "저희 아이디어를... 들고 간 게 교수님한테 다 까였잖아요.",
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      "text": "So there were things the professor mentioned, and stuff like that",
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      "korean_text": " 그래서 교수님이 말한 것도 있고 그랬는데",
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      "text": "I mean, honestly, that combinatorial thing is just, you know, that, right?",
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      "korean_text": "저는 사실 뭔가 그 컴비네터리 그게 그냥 그거잖아",
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      "text": "It's like creating a test set where every pair is included via pairwise, right? Combinatorial configuration?",
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      "korean_text": " 페어와이즈로 모든 페어가 다 들어있게 테스트 세트를 짠다 이런 느낌인 거죠? Combinatorial 컨피규레이션?",
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "So after hearing that, I still don't really understand what the professor wanted to do.",
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      "korean_text": " 그래서 뭔가 그 말 듣고 나니까 그 말 들으니깐 교수님이 뭘 하고 싶으셨는지 잘 모르겠어요",
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      "text": "Once I understood that, you know the thing the professor mentioned was about LLM bias.",
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      "korean_text": " 그걸 이해하고 나니까 그 교수님 말했던 거 있잖아요 LLM 바이어스이고",
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      "text": "So if we do combinatorial, we'd have to check everything, right?",
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      "korean_text": " 그러니까 콤비넥토리얼 하면 그거 하면 다 찾아 봐야 되는 건데",
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      "text": "But if we do it with SB, we could look more thoroughly.",
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      "korean_text": " SB로 하면 더 잘 찾아보고 할 수도 있다",
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      "text": "It seems like that's what they meant.",
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      "korean_text": " 이런 말로 하신 것 같은데",
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      "text": "So we'd have to test everything, but with SB, we can eliminate some and focus only on the more promising ones, so it takes less time—something like that is how I understand it.",
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      "korean_text": " 그러니까 다 테스팅해야 되는데 sb로 하면 몇 개는 쳐내고 가능성 높은 것들만 위주로 해서 시간이 짧게 걸린다 이런 식으로 이해가 되거든요",
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      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "So, from the entire test dataset, first we pull out the minimum with combinatorial, and then if we narrow it down further using that as a search base, that’s the kind of idea, right?",
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      "korean_text": " 그러니까 전체 테스트 데이터셋 중에 일단 콤비네토리 그걸로 최소한을 뽑아내고 거기서 이제 서치 베이스로 더 추려내면 그런 느낌인 거죠?",
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      "text": "Something like that Isn't the combinatorial itself just basically testing almost everything?",
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      "korean_text": " 약간 그런 거 콤비니터리 자체가 그냥 거의 다 테스팅 하는 거 아니겠어요?",
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      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "I don't remember all the vague feelings, but in the middle of that, you filter it out more.",
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      "korean_text": " 대충 이런저런 느낌이 다까지는 기억 안 나는데 근데 그 와중에 더 추려내.",
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      "text": "Isn't it kind of like that?",
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      "korean_text": " 말하자면 그런 느낌 아니야?",
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "What I understood was that configuration, for example, five types of five items, and OS or Python version, things like that such parameters are numerous, and testing every single combination would be too large",
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      "korean_text": " 제가 이해했던 거는 그 컨피규레이션, 예를 들어 5개의 5종류가 있고 OS 아니면 Python 버전 이런 게 있고 그런 파라미터가 다 많은데 모든 조합을 전부 다 해보기에는 그게 너무 크니까",
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      "text": "So if we assume that problems occur in just two combinations, or in two or three combinations, then that goes into those two or three slots, right?",
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      "korean_text": "특정한 파라미터에 2개의 조합, 2, 3개의의 조업에서 문제가 발생한다고 가정을 하고 그럼 이 그 두세 개의 끼에 들어가는게 그거인거죠?",
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      "text": "So if you do everything, it becomes 10, but if you only do those two combinations, that’s what I understood. But somehow, when you were talking about bias-related things, for example, demographic...",
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      "korean_text": " 그래서 전부 다 하면 10개 되는데, 그렇게 2개 끼기만 하면 제가 이해한건 그건데 뭔가 그거를 그래서 뭔가 그래서 뭔가 bias 관련해서 말하신 거는 예를 들어서 뭐 데모그래픽",
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "One?",
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      "korean_text": " 한 개?",
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "Five exist.",
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      "korean_text": " 다섯 개가 있어요.",
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      "text": "For instance, nationality, age, gender...",
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      "korean_text": " 예를 들어 국적, 나이, 성별...",
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "let's say there are five of them, and we can't test all of them, so here,",
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      "korean_text": " 이렇게 다섯개가 있다고 쳤을 때 이거의 모든 조합을 다 해볼 수 없으니까 여기서 이제",
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "It seems like we’re supposed to use combinatorial configuration.",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 컴비네토리 컨피규레이션을 쓰라는 것 같은데",
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "So ultimately, the question is how to view LLM bias",
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      "korean_text": "그럼 결국 그래서 LLM bias 는 어떻게 봐야 되냐는 문제",
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "I honestly don't know",
      "utterance_type": "Task/Process Negative",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 저는 그래서 이걸 모르겠어요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Other / Neutral"
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      "start": 189.14,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "So how can we view LLM bias through the installation base?",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "그래서 설치베이스로 llm bias 를 어떻게 볼 수 있는 건지",
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      "text": "LLM bias",
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      "korean_text": "  llm bias",
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "diffusion how how",
      "utterance_type": "Other / Neutral",
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      "korean_text": "diffusion 어떻게 어떻게",
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "That's what I thought bias was",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 제가 생각했던 바이어스는 그거거든요.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "If you fix one demographic, the other tends to appear almost as a coupling, occurring very frequently",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 데모 그래픽을 하나를 고정시켜 놓으면 나머지 하나가 거의 그냥 커플링이 되는 수준 정도로 자주 나올 수가 있잖아요.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Solutions"
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "I thought that was what bias meant.",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "그런 게 bias 라고 생각을 했거든요.",
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "If you insert a doctor, then the guys,",
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      "korean_text": "의사 넣으면, 남자들,",
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      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "Yes, that's right.",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 네 그렇죠.",
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      "text": "I think that's what LLM bias is.",
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      "korean_text": "그런 거가 llm bias 라고 생각을 하는데",
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "But so, I’m not really sure how configuration and bios directions should be combined.",
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      "korean_text": "  근데 그래서 컨피규레이션이랑 바이오스 디렉션이 어떻게 합쳐져야 될지 잘 모르겠어요.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Naming Problems"
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      "start": 261.26,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "Maybe, if we talk about diffusion, there might be a way to transform prompts using things like GA...",
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      "korean_text": "아마 diffusion 쪽에서 이야기를 하자면 GA 같은 걸 활용해서 프롬프트를 변형시키는 방법이 존재한...",
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      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "No, it seems we could try changing the prompts.",
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      "korean_text": "아니, 프롬프트를 변경해볼 수 있을 것 같긴 해요.",
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "That's correct, but it seems to be a problem at the evaluation stage.",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그건 맞는데 Evaluation 단의 문제인 것 같아요.",
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      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "The breakup racer is...",
      "utterance_type": "Other / Neutral",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 이별 레이셔는...",
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "I just mentioned that.",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 방금 말해봤어요.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Active listening"
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      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "When we did image recognition in the lab, we recognized things like drawings, and at that time we used CLIP.",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 연구실에서 이미지 인식 같은 걸 했을 때는 그림 같은 거 인식을 했었는데 그때는 클립을 사용했었거든요.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "start": 294.64,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "Yes? CLIP, right?",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 네? 클립이요.",
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      "text": "CLIP, for image...",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 클립이라고 이미지...",
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      "start": 298.2,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "I know what it is.",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 뭔지는 알아요.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Active listening"
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      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "So if we check the bias, there will be definite words, and there will be other chaotic expressions, too.",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그래서 바이어스를 체크한다면 확실한 단어가 있을 거고 그리고 다른 무질서한표현들이 있을 거 아니에요.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Knowledge Transfer"
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      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "For example, something like a Western person or someone who is 170 cm tall, that kind of feeling.",
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      "korean_text": " 예를 들면 서양인이라던지 키가 170cm이라든지 그런 느낌일 거니까",
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      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "In that way, after clipping the words back together, if we run similarity comparisons between the words and things like that, wouldn’t we be able to judge whether there is bias or not?",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그런 식으로 클립으로 다시 단어를 떼운 다음에 단어끼리 유사성 비교나 그런 거를 돌려서 바이오스가 있냐 없냐라는 판단할 수 있지 않을까요?",
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      "start": 324.26,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "No, that's not it,",
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      "korean_text": " 아 그건 아닌데",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Social Negative"
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "I quickly typed it out just now,",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 제가 대충 방금 쳐 봤는데",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "start": 328.92,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "in the end, bias detection itself also is done through a prompt, comparing the ratio of men appearing versus the ratio of women appearing, so it's basically comparing whether it's 50-50 or not, right?",
      "utterance_type": "Knowledge Transfer",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "결국 bias detection 자체도 프롬프트로 한 거에서 남자가 나온 비율이랑 여자가 나온비율이랑 해서 이게 50대 50 이냐 아니냐를 비교하게 되는 거잖아요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 341.8,
      "end": 358.76,
      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "But in the end, if we're talking about bias detection, we'll be doing evaluation in this direction. Then I'm asking how something like this combinatorial configuration concept should be incorporated here.",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 근데 결국 바이오스 디텍션이라고 하면 이런 쪽으로 Evaluation을 하게 될 텐데 그러면 뭔가 여기서 combinatorial configuration 이라는 게 어떻게 들어가야 되냐라는 거죠 저는",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Problems"
    },
    {
      "start": 358.76,
      "end": 367.64,
      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "I don't remember. When the professor was doing combinatorial testing back then, it was related to this area, but it suddenly slipped my mind.",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 제가 기억이 안 나네요 교수님이 그때 combinatorial 테스팅 하실 때 이쪽 관련해서 해서 그게 갑자기 기억이 안나요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 367.64,
      "end": 372.3,
      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "Ah yes, you mentioned something about bias-related topics, about LLM bias-related topics.",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "아 네 바이어스 관련해서, LLM 바이어스 관련 해서 말씀하셨었어요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 372.3,
      "end": 375.12,
      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "Ah, was that related to bias?",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "아 그게 bias 에 관련된 내용이었어요?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 375.12,
      "end": 376.42,
      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "Ah, then you didn't know but still heard about it?",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 아 그럼 몰라도 들으셨어요?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 376.42,
      "end": 378.32,
      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "No, I just mean, what is it?",
      "utterance_type": "Other / Neutral",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 아니 그냥 뭐냐",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 378.32,
      "end": 381.24,
      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "I don't exactly remember, but I vaguely recall something about flow",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 정확히 기억 안 나는데 대충 플로우는 기억이 나는데",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 381.24,
      "end": 384.48,
      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "Whether this was that kind of story or",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 이게 그거 쪽 이야기였는지 아니면",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Other / Neutral"
    },
    {
      "start": 384.48,
      "end": 387.24,
      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "just some testing-related thing, it's all kind of blurred",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그냥 뭐 테스팅 쪽 이야기 였는지 그게 많이 깔려가지고",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 387.24,
      "end": 388.42,
      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "It was an LLM bias",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "LLM 바이어스였어요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 388.42,
      "end": 389.02,
      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "Oh, right",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 아 네",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Active listening"
    },
    {
      "start": 391.02,
      "end": 397.02,
      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "Hmm...",
      "utterance_type": "Other / Neutral",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "음...",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Other / Neutral"
    },
    {
      "start": 399.02,
      "end": 401.02,
      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "Not really",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "아닌가",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Active listening"
    },
    {
      "start": 403.02,
      "end": 405.02,
      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "But the direction doesn't necessarily have to go that way anyway",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 근데 방향은 어차피 그 방향대로 갈 필요는 없는 거잖아",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Solutions"
    },
    {
      "start": 405.02,
      "end": 407.02,
      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "That's true",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그건 맞는데",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Active listening"
    },
    {
      "start": 407.02,
      "end": 409.02,
      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "I just don't fully understand what you were intending",
      "utterance_type": "Naming Problems",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 저는 뭘 의도하셨는지 잘 이해가 안돼서",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Naming Problems"
    },
    {
      "start": 411.02,
      "end": 413.02,
      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "Didn't the professor also try out various things?",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그냥 교수님도 여러 가지 던져보셨던 거 아니야",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 413.02,
      "end": 415.02,
      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "The professor might have tried it too.",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 교수님 도 던져 보셨을 수도 있고",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 419.02,
      "end": 449.14,
      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "So, like, I was working on LLM, bias and stuff, and what I had in mind was: if there are five demo graphics, you take two of them. When you take two and pull prompts, if the combinations from the remaining three don’t come out diverse and instead only form one kind of combination, then that means bias is present, right?",
      "utterance_type": "Knowledge Transfer",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "그래서 막 제가 LLM, BIAS 이런 거 해서 뭔가 제 머릿속에서 생각했던 거는 뭔가 데모 그래픽이 5개가 있으면 이 중에서 2개를 넣어요. 이 중에서는 2개를 넣고 프롬프트를 뽑았을 때 나머지 3개에서 세계의 조합이 다채롭게 안 나오고 한 가지로 조합을 만들면 바이어스가 낀 거잖아요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Knowledge Transfer"
    },
    {
      "start": 449.14,
      "end": 458.88,
      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "What I had in mind was something like that, but suddenly I’m not really following how to connect it starting from combinatorial configuration.",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Problems",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "제가 머릿속에서 생각하고 있는 건 그런 거였는데 갑자기 컴비네토리알 컨피규레이션부터 어떻게 연결해야 할지 저는 좀 안 상당히 안 듣는 것 같아요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Problems"
    },
    {
      "start": 458.88,
      "end": 463.04,
      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "How did Bailey understand it?",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "Bailey은 어떻게 이해하셨었나요?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 463.04,
      "end": 468.06,
      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "I didn't really grasp the bias aspect back then.",
      "utterance_type": "Naming Problems",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "저는 그때 바이어스 쪽을 잘 이해를 못 해서",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 468.06,
      "end": 470.94,
      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "Bailey seemed to understand it.",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "Bailey은 이해하시는 것 같다고 했어요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 470.94,
      "end": 472.94,
      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "Ah",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 아",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Active listening"
    },
    {
      "start": 472.94,
      "end": 476.94,
      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "When the professor was talking about the bias part",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 교수님이 말씀하실 때 바이어스 쪽을",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 476.94,
      "end": 477.79,
      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "What is it?",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "뭐지?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 477.79,
      "end": 478.94,
      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "Stuff like this",
      "utterance_type": "Other / Neutral",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 이런거",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 478.94,
      "end": 480.94,
      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "Combinatorial?",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "컴비네토리얼?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Active listening"
    },
    {
      "start": 480.94,
      "end": 482.94,
      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "Ah yes",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 아 맞다",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Active listening"
    },
    {
      "start": 484.94,
      "end": 486.94,
      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "I've been absent since last week's meeting",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 저번주 회의부터 빠져가지고",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 486.94,
      "end": 488.94,
      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "It's hard to catch up with the tempo",
      "utterance_type": "Task/Process Negative",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 템포로 나가는게 힘드네요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Task/Process Negative"
    },
    {
      "start": 488.94,
      "end": 492.94,
      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "What the professor said back then was, for now...",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그때 교수님 말씀 하셨던게 일단은",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 494.94,
      "end": 496.94,
      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "What about the extra one",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 여분은 어떤거",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 496.94,
      "end": 498.94,
      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "Yes, you said it on KakaoTalk.",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "네 카톡으로 말씀하셔서",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 498.94,
      "end": 503.04,
      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "At that time, you talked about a few topics, and then we decided to change baseball for now.",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그때 몇 개 주제에 대해서 이야기 해주시고 그리고 야구는 일단 바꾸고",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 503.04,
      "end": 505,
      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "Yes, baseball was changed as well",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 네, 야구도 바꾸었고",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 505,
      "end": 509.26,
      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "At that time, when doing hyperparameter tuning, what do you do?",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그때 하이퍼 파라미터 튜닝은 뭐 하면 하는데",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 509.26,
      "end": 512.12,
      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "There are things like, \"It doesn't seem like that interesting of a topic.\"",
      "utterance_type": "Task/Process Negative",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그렇게 흥미로운 주제는 아닌 거 같다 이런 거 있습니다",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Task/Process Negative"
    },
    {
      "start": 512.12,
      "end": 515.08,
      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "It was something you mentioned back then",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 약간 그때 말씀하시기에 그거 한 거였죠",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 515.08,
      "end": 518.02,
      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "Naturally, performance would improve, which is somewhat expected",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 하면 당연히 성능이 올라가는 게 약간 당연하다",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Solutions"
    },
    {
      "start": 518.02,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "It felt like you were saying something along those lines",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 약간 그런 느낌으로 말씀하셨던 것 같은데",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Active listening"
    },
    {
      "start": 520.08,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "That's what you said",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그렇게 말씀하셨고요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Active listening"
    },
    {
      "start": 521.66,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "And what would be a suitable topic to explore?",
      "utterance_type": "Structuring",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그리고 해봄직할 만한 주제?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Structuring"
    },
    {
      "start": 524.96,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "You've also included this one.",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 이런 것도 또 넣어주셨고",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Structuring"
    },
    {
      "start": 527.12,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "Ultimately, it has to be related to software and actual engineering.",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 결국에는 소프트웨어, 실제 엔지니어링 쪽에 관련되어야 된다.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 533.44,
      "end": 537.7,
      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "If it goes out of scope, it'll really be like now...",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Problems",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "아웃오브스코프가 되면 진짜 지금..",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Problems"
    },
    {
      "start": 537.7,
      "end": 544.7,
      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "So, the lab research report",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그래서 자기 랩 연구보고",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 544.7,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "They gave me one topic that I thought was interesting, just kind of tossed it out there.",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 자기가 생각하는 재밌는 주제 있다고 하나 던져주셨는데",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 548.72,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "The interpretation of that is slightly ambiguous.",
      "utterance_type": "Naming Problems",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "그걸 해석이 살짝 모호한 상태입니다.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Naming Problems"
    },
    {
      "start": 556.9,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "Other than that, it's not absolutely necessary to do this one—something else would work too.",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "  그거 말고는 그냥 꼭 이걸 해야 되는 건 아니고 뭔가 그냥 해도 되는데",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Solutions"
    },
    {
      "start": 565.38,
      "end": 578.72,
      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "What I went to ask was Something involving latent space Now using a search-based algorithm to do something Autoencoder or, if the professor mentioned it, diffusion models and such",
      "utterance_type": "Naming Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 제가 가서 여쭤봤던 거는 레이턴트 스페이스를 갖고 있는 그런 거에서 이제 서치 베이스 알고리즘 써서 뭔가 하는 거 오토 인코더나 아니면 교수님 말씀하셨으면 디퓨전 모델 이런 걸로",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Naming Solutions"
    },
    {
      "start": 578.72,
      "end": 582.92,
      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "He did say recently that he was working on something like that—diffusion, at the time.",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그런 거 최근에 자기가 하고 있다고 말씀하시긴 했거든요 디퓨젼 그때",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 582.92,
      "end": 585.92,
      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "The autoencoder was done around 2024.",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 오토 인코더는 한 24년에 하셨더라고요.",
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "Somewhat in that direction?",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 약간 그쪽에서?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Active listening"
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      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "Yes yes.",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 네네.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Active listening"
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "In my opinion, it seems like a good space for exploration in the latent space.",
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      "korean_text": " 제 생각에는 레이전트 스페이스에서 탐색을 하기 좋은 공간 같아서",
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      "start": 593.94,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "I told him that.",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그쪽 말씀 드렸고",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "But here it says it's \"useless nonsense.\"",
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      "korean_text": " 근데 여기서 쓰잘데기 없는 짓이라고 적혀있어.",
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "What exactly do you mean by that?",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 네가 뭐가 어떤 뜻이길래 대체",
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      "start": 606.4,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "Hmm? What's that?",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 응? 뭘?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Active listening"
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      "text": "It was just the professor's belief or something like that.",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그거 그냥 교수님의 신념 이런 거였어요.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "Ah",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
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      "korean_text": " 아",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Active listening"
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "Some kind of belief, slightly",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 뭔가 신념, 살짝",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "start": 614.52,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "What kind of story is this?",
      "utterance_type": "Other / Neutral",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 무슨 이야기일까요?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Task/Process Negative"
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      "start": 621.52,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "So we kind of have to do something, don't we",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그래서 뭔가 저희가 뭘 하나 해야 되잖아요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Proactivity"
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      "start": 624.66,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "Right, there's someone who knows a bit more",
      "utterance_type": "Cooperation",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그렇죠 좀 잘 아시는 분이 있죠",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "start": 625.9,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "So I read the paper written by that professor",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 자 그래서 그 교수님이 쓰신 논문 읽어봤거든요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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    {
      "start": 629.9,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "Yes, that's right",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 네, 그렇습니다",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Active listening"
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      "start": 633.56,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "After looking at the input generation, has anyone here happened to read these papers?",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 인풋 제네레이션 볼 뒤에는 혹시 이거 논문들 읽어보신 분 있으세요?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "start": 637.48,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "Just a quick overview of what's written there.",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그 앞에 써져있는 뭔 내용인지 개요만..",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "start": 642.52,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "Anyway, looking at this, I kind of think this paper is a bit rough.",
      "utterance_type": "Naming Problems",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 아무튼 이거 보면 살짝 제 생각에는 여기 논문이 살짝 좀 구려요.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Problems"
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      "start": 650.82,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "It seems like there might be room for improvement, right?",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 뭔가 개선할 가능성이 있어 보인다 그랬나?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Problems"
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    {
      "start": 653.62,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "Want to take a look?",
      "utterance_type": "Proactivity",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 보실래요?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Proactivity"
    },
    {
      "start": 655.05,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "Quickly?",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 빠르게?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Proactivity"
    },
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      "start": 656.92,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "It's kind of rough.",
      "utterance_type": "Naming Problems",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 좀 구려.",
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      "start": 669.84,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "So I think it might be okay to start by grabbing onto this.",
      "utterance_type": "Proactivity",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그래서 여기서 좀 잡아서 시작해도 괜찮을 것 같다는 생각이 들어요.",
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    {
      "start": 724.48,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "Where exactly could we improve here?",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "여기서 개선할 만한 게 어느 쪽이 있죠?",
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      "start": 728.92,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "I don't really know.",
      "utterance_type": "Naming Problems",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 잘 모르겠어가지고",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Task/Process Negative"
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      "start": 730.82,
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      "text": "First off, I don't like that the result is qualitative.",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "일단 결과가 퀄리테이티브인 점은 마음에 안 들어요.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Naming Problems"
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      "start": 734.74,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "Actually, it's an AI paper, but the result being qualitative is kind of awkward, you know.",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 사실 AI 페이퍼인데 결과가 퀄리테이티브라는 게 뭔가 그렇잖아요.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Problems"
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      "start": 741.68,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "It's kind of weird in itself, and what we're talking about here is something that can effectively identify those slightly ambiguous inputs.",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 자체도 좀 그렇고 여기서 말하는 거는 뭔가 그 조금 애매한 인풋 같은 거를 잘 찾을 수 있다인데",
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      "start": 752.66,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "Actually, if someone asks why it's good to find ambiguous inputs, I honestly don't know either, and well, that's kind of the thing, given that the VA selection process inherently means you don't know the original class, so in a situation where you don't know the original class, you end up selecting inputs that are even more confusing.",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Problems",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "사실 그래서 애매한 인풋 찾아서 뭐에 좋냐라고 하면 사실 그것도 잘 모르겠고 그리고 뭔가 그거잖아요 그 VA로 뽑은 거 특성상 원래 클래스를 모르잖아요 그러면 원래 클래스를 모르는 상황인데 뭔가 이런 좀 더 헷갈리는 인풋을 뽑아서",
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      "start": 770.44,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "Something in my opinion, we put it back in and improved accuracy a bit, so I think that's what we should say up to this point.",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "뭔가 제 생각에는 다시 그걸 넣어서 뭐 좀 accuracy를 향상시켰다 여기까지 말을 해야 맞는 것 같거든요 제 생각에",
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "Um, so we found it, and now what are we going to do with it, what are we going to do with this?",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 음 그러니까 이거는 찾았다 그다음에 뭘 할 거냐 이걸 가지고 뭘 할거냐 하는 거",
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "For example, we can extract an image that looks like a sphere or something.",
      "utterance_type": "Naming Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 예를 들어서 뭐 한 상처럼 생긴 구 이미지를 뽑을 수 있다인데",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Naming Solutions"
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      "start": 796.44,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "Then, we should at least show that when we feed this back in, the actual performance improves a bit.",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "  그럼 이제 이거를 다시 먹였을 때 실제로 성능이 좀 더 좋아지냐고 이런 거라도 보여야 된다는 거죠.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Solutions"
    },
    {
      "start": 802.06,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "I think we need to make it look somewhat quantitative.",
      "utterance_type": "Naming Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "퀀티테이프하게 보이는 게 있어야 되지 않나 하는 생각이",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Naming Solutions"
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "The thought I had before coming here was that this paper seems a bit sketchy, but maybe we can show it as a baseline here.",
      "utterance_type": "Proactivity",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 제가 오기 전 했던 생각은 이 논문이 살짝 구린데 여기서 좀 원점 보일 수 있지 않을까 하는 생각",
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      "start": 825.44,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "Then, how could we make this quantitative?",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그러면 이거를 quantitative하게 하려면 어떻게 할 수 있을까요?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "start": 834.48,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "The model itself isn't an extremely heavy model, right?",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 이거 쓴 거 자체가 엄청 무거운 모델은 아닐 거잖아요.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "MNIST and the images are small-sized ones.",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " MNIST랑 이미지는 조그만한 건데",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "start": 841.96,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "It seems we were also provided with a machine.",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "저희 머신도 지급을 해주셨던 것 같은데",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "start": 845.68,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "What?",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 네?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Active listening"
    },
    {
      "start": 846.22,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "The VM?",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " VM이요?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Active listening"
    },
    {
      "start": 846.98,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "Since we have that too, it should be able to handle some minor tasks.",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그것도 있으니까 뭐 앵간한 조그마한 건 돌릴 수 있을 것 같은데",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "start": 852.16,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "What I was thinking was that there are about two things I’ve considered for the model—actually, three.",
      "utterance_type": "Naming Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 제가 조금 생각했던 거는 모델한테 생각해 본 게 두 개 정도 있는데요 사실 세 개 있는데요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Naming Solutions"
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      "text": "One is that among the VAs, there’s one where you can assign a class, the condition-based VA? Use that to do something.",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 하나는 VA 중에서 클래스 지정 가능한 게 있잖아요 컨디션의 VA? 그걸 써서 뭔가",
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "The class is clearly three, but can't the model pick up some slightly weak inputs?",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 클래스가 명확히 3이긴 한데 모델이 조금 취약한 인풋들을 뽑을 수 있을 거 아니에요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Solutions"
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      "start": 884.68,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "Um.. Yes",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 음.. 네",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Active listening"
    },
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      "start": 885.62,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "Yes yes",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 네네",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Active listening"
    },
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      "start": 886.44,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "It depends on how clearly they are selected",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 이건 또 얼마나 명확하게 뽑냐에 따라서",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Solutions"
    },
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      "start": 889.24,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "It seems like it depends on that, though.",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Problems",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 달려있는 문제일 것 같긴 한데",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Problems"
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      "start": 891.38,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "Then, using those, we could fine-tune the model or something",
      "utterance_type": "Naming Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그러면 그걸 가지고 모델를 파인튜닝을 하거나 해서",
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "Like, fine-tuning it a bit?",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "뭐 그게 조금 파인튜닝 시키기?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Active listening"
    },
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      "start": 899.06,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "Very efficient?",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 되게 효율이 좋은?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
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      "start": 900.56,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "Something the original model couldn't do",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "뭔가 기존에 모델이 못하는 부분",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "start": 903.74,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "Since it's a dataset created by carefully selecting only incorrect answers like this, for example, performance improvement is somewhat greater than when fine-tuning with another 500 random data points?",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 오답만 살짝 이렇게 쏙쏙 골라서 만들어준 데이터셋이라서 예를 들어 다른 랜덤 데이터 500개를 파인튜닝 시켰을 때보다 성능 향상이 좀 더 많이 된다?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Solutions"
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    {
      "start": 914.74,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "Just a little bit like this?",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "조금 살짝 이런 느낌?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Naming Solutions"
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    {
      "start": 916.04,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "Could we create a model that generates incorrect answer notes?",
      "utterance_type": "Naming Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 오답노트 만들어주기 모델한테?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Naming Solutions"
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    {
      "start": 918.92,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "It could be viewed in this way, This is my first thought,",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 이런 느낌으로 볼 수도 있을 것 같고 난 이게 첫 번째 생각이거든요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Solutions"
    },
    {
      "start": 924.18,
      "end": 926.84,
      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "giving the feeling of increasing test coverage,",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 테스트 커버리지를 늘리는 느낌으로",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Solutions"
    },
    {
      "start": 926.84,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "Ah yes, something like models",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 아 네네 뭔가 모델들",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Active listening"
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    {
      "start": 928.48,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "Not exactly tests, but",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 뭐 테스트는 아니지만",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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    {
      "start": 929.68,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "Yes Anyway",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 네 어쨌든",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Active listening"
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    {
      "start": 931.46,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "Well, it's about showing what's lacking in the current model, right?",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 음 그러니까 지금 모델로 뭐가 부족한지 알 수 있게 해주는 그런 거겠죠",
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    {
      "start": 937.76,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "That's what I initially had in mind.",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 제가 일단 생각했던 그거고",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Active listening"
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "Secondly, we might be able to interpret the Latent Space as well.",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 두 번째로 레이턴즈 스페이스 해석도 해볼 수 있을 것 같아요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Naming Solutions"
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    {
      "start": 944.68,
      "end": 955.46,
      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "So now, thinking in reverse, to make the differences in the Embedding Space as large as possible, we need to figure out which pixels need to change.",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그러니까 이제 이건 반대로 생각하는 건데 인베딩 스페이스에서의 차이를 크게 만들려면 어떤 픽셀이 달라져야 되냐는 거죠",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Solutions"
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    {
      "start": 959.42,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "Now that should work.",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 이제 그러면 되죠",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Solutions"
    },
    {
      "start": 960.34,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "The problem is that we can't always interpret the Latent Space.",
      "utterance_type": "Naming Problems",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "레이터즈 스페이스를 항상 해석할 수 없다는 게 조금 문제긴 하잖아요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Naming Problems"
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    {
      "start": 964.42,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "For example, going up to 10 dimensions is generally better, but then it becomes harder to interpret.",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 예를 들어 10차원으로 꼭 차원 올라갈수록 좋기는 한데 그러면 이제 좀 더 해석이 어려워지니까",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Solutions"
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    {
      "start": 969.18,
      "end": 980.28,
      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "But then, for example, in some upper-dimensional latent space, the larger this number gets, the closer it gets to 1, and the smaller it gets, the closer it gets to 0, so it could be like that, right?",
      "utterance_type": "Knowledge Transfer",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 근데 그러면 예를 들어서 뭐 위쪽 어떤 레이턴스 스페이스 차원에서는 이 숫자가 커질수록 1에 가깝고 또 작아질수록 0에 가까다 이렇게 될 수도 있잖아요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Knowledge Transfer"
    },
    {
      "start": 980.28,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "So maybe we can see some relationship between this latent space and those pixels?",
      "utterance_type": "Naming Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그래서 좀 이 레이턴트 스페이스랑 뭔가 저 픽셀에서의 관련성?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Solutions"
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    {
      "start": 986.36,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "It seems like we could see something like that,",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 이런 거를 볼 수 있을 것 같고",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Solutions"
    },
    {
      "start": 996.54,
      "end": 996.54,
      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "um",
      "utterance_type": "Other / Neutral",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "  음",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Other / Neutral"
    },
    {
      "start": 999.42,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "Also, one more thing—though I haven’t thought about it too hard—is that in GANs, we generate adversarial inputs, right?",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 일단 한 가지 더는 그렇게 열심히 생각해 본 건 아닌데 GAN 같은 거에서 적대적 입력 생성하잖아요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 1002.58,
      "end": 1004.66,
      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "Couldn’t something like this also be replaced or demonstrated using a GAN?",
      "utterance_type": "Naming Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 이런 것도 뭔가 GAN으로 대체해 보일 수 있지 않나?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Naming Solutions"
    },
    {
      "start": 1004.66,
      "end": 1006.5,
      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "It might be possible",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 생각도 되고",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Active listening"
    },
    {
      "start": 1006.5,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "I'm just guessing roughly,",
      "utterance_type": "Other / Neutral",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 이거 대충 생각해서",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Solutions"
    },
    {
      "start": 1007.54,
      "end": 1008.3,
      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "I don't really know",
      "utterance_type": "Other / Neutral",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 잘 몰라요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Solutions"
    },
    {
      "start": 1008.3,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "There probably seem to be quite a lot, but replacing that GAN with another GAN itself is, well, probably...",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 아마 많이 있을 것 같은데 그 GAN을 GAN로 대체하는 거 자체는 근데 아마",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Solutions"
    },
    {
      "start": 1013.98,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "Just a moment",
      "utterance_type": "Structuring",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 잠시만요 ",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Other / Neutral"
    },
    {
      "start": 1019.98,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "Oh wow, I really get it now,",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "아오 진짜 알겠습니다",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Social / Humor"
    },
    {
      "start": 1021.02,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "I'm about to pass out,",
      "utterance_type": "Social / Humor",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 뒤질것 같네",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Social / Humor"
    },
    {
      "start": 1021.83,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "everyone's completely out of it",
      "utterance_type": "Social / Humor",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 다들 정신이 없네",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Social / Humor"
    },
    {
      "start": 1022.98,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "But if we can find the empty parts, that would be good, right?",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 근데 뭐 비어있는 부분 찾을 수 있으면 좋은건 괜찮잖아요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Naming Solutions"
    },
    {
      "start": 1025.98,
      "end": 1029.98,
      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "Somewhat, using G for GAN, like Lightway Top does, or something like that.",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "약간 GAN에 대해선 G로 활용해서 라이트웨이 탑이 한다던가",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Naming Solutions"
    },
    {
      "start": 1029.98,
      "end": 1032.98,
      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "But isn't GEN already quite a bit?",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 근데 이미 GEN도 상당히 아닌가?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Solutions"
    },
    {
      "start": 1032.98,
      "end": 1036.98,
      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "Maybe it's because I'm so used to models that run on 6GB to 12GB?",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Problems",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 너무 6기가 12기가 하는 모델에 절여져서 그런가",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Solutions"
    },
    {
      "start": 1037.98,
      "end": 1039.98,
      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "What I know about GEN is that, somehow...",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 제가 GEN에서 아는거는 뭔가",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 1039.98,
      "end": 1042.98,
      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "There's a detector and there's a deceiver",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그 판결하는 애가 있고 속이는 애가있고",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Knowledge Transfer"
    },
    {
      "start": 1042.98,
      "end": 1046.78,
      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "That's all—just two of them going back and forth",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 두 개가 서로서로 왔다갔다 하면서 지나간다 밖에 그 정도거든요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Knowledge Transfer"
    },
    {
      "start": 1046.78,
      "end": 1051.46,
      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "But in the end, the detector isn't used much, right?",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 근데 결국 판별하는 애는 잘 안 쓰잖아요?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 1051.46,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "Ultimately, we just use the image extractor",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 결국은 이미지 뽑는 애를 쓰는 거지",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 1055.2,
      "end": 1056.31,
      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "Usually, right?",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 보통 그렇죠?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 1056.31,
      "end": 1059.72,
      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "It's somewhat obvious depending on the purpose",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 목적에 따라 약간 당연하겠지만",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 1059.72,
      "end": 1063.08,
      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "If we were to make a detector, we'd use this",
      "utterance_type": "Naming Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "뭔가 판별기를 만들려면 이걸 쓰겠지만",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Solutions"
    },
    {
      "start": 1063.08,
      "end": 1065.6,
      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "But usually, we don't use this one",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 보통 얘는 안 쓰는 거잖아요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 1065.6,
      "end": 1068.92,
      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "And this one also, at first, didn’t detect well, but",
      "utterance_type": "Naming Problems",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그리고 얘도 처음에는 판별을 잘 못하다가",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 1068.92,
      "end": 1070.8,
      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "The further back we go, the more we need to do it well, right?",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 뒤로 갈수록 잘 해줘야 되는 거잖아요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Solutions"
    },
    {
      "start": 1070.8,
      "end": 1072.0,
      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "Right?",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그렇죠?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Active listening"
    },
    {
      "start": 1072.0,
      "end": 1072.8,
      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "Yes.",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 네.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Active listening"
    },
    {
      "start": 1072.8,
      "end": 1073.07,
      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "Oh wait.",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "아니구나.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Solutions"
    },
    {
      "start": 1073.07,
      "end": 1076.56,
      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "Since we have to use generation, we can't just substitute it with GA, can we?",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 생성을 써야 하니까 GA로 대체하면 안되네요?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Solutions"
    },
    {
      "start": 1076.56,
      "end": 1079.32,
      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "Hmm...",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 음...",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Active listening"
    },
    {
      "start": 1079.32,
      "end": 1081.15,
      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "Just ignore it once.",
      "utterance_type": "Naming Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 한 번은 그냥 무시해주세요.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Naming Solutions"
    },
    {
      "start": 1081.15,
      "end": 1085.08,
      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "What I had in mind was just number 1 and 2.",
      "utterance_type": "Naming Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 제가 생각했던 건 1번, 2번 정도.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Naming Solutions"
    },
    {
      "start": 1085.08,
      "end": 1086.96,
      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "Oh wow...",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 어후...",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Social / Humor"
    },
    {
      "start": 1086.96,
      "end": 1090.74,
      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "If other people have any thoughts, please feel free to share them.",
      "utterance_type": "Structuring",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 다른 분들도 좀 생각해 오신 거 있으면 말씀하셔도 좋을 것 같고",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Structuring"
    },
    {
      "start": 1090.74,
      "end": 1093.68,
      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "It would definitely be fun to attach it to Diffusion.",
      "utterance_type": "Naming Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 디퓨전에 붙이면 확실히 재밌을 것 같은데",
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "Maybe because I don't have Diffusion, I can't think of it clearly.",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "제가 디퓨젼이 없어서 그런가 이건 잘 생각이 안 나더라고요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Naming Problems"
    },
    {
      "start": 1098.7,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "That's actually what I had in mind.",
      "utterance_type": "Cooperation",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 제가 생각했던 거는 그쪽이었거든요.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Active listening"
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    {
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      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "Diffusion, latent space over here",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "디퓨전, 레이턴 스페이스 이쪽에서",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
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      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "So to be precise, you're giving a prompt, right?",
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      "korean_text": " 그러니까 정확히 말하자면 프롬프트를 주잖아요.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "Yeah, that's right",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "네 그쵸",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Active listening"
    },
    {
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      "text": "That prompt clearly had X in it, but X doesn't show up, or I put in Y, but suddenly X appears, which happens surprisingly often",
      "utterance_type": "Naming Problems",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "그 프롬프트가 이제 분명 나는 X라는 걸 넣었는데 X가 안 나오거나 아니면 Y를 넣었는데 갑자기 X가 나온다던가 하는 경우가 은근히 자주 일어나니까",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Problems"
    },
    {
      "start": 1123.2,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "So what's the problem with this",
      "utterance_type": "Naming Problems",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 이런 거를 그러면 뭐가 문제다",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Naming Problems"
    },
    {
      "start": 1125.9,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "Isn't there a way to figure this out",
      "utterance_type": "Naming Problems",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 이런 걸 알아낼 수 있는 방향이 있지 않을까 해가지고",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Naming Solutions"
    },
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      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "How could we search-based approach this",
      "utterance_type": "Naming Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "이런 걸 서치 베이스드로 어떻게 찾아볼 수 있지 않을까",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Naming Solutions"
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      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "I thought maybe we should approach it from this direction",
      "utterance_type": "Naming Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그런 쪽으로 접근을 하면 어떨까 싶었습니다",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Naming Solutions"
    },
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "With diffusion models, I input a prompt, but is it considered a violation if the prompt isn't followed?",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 디퓨전 모델 같은 거는 프롬프트를 넣었는데 프롬프트를 따르지 않는 경우가 되는 건가요?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 1144.96,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "Is it a clear violation, or just not pleasing?",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 명백하게 위반하는 거예요 아니면 마음에 안 든다예요?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Problems"
    },
    {
      "start": 1148.4,
      "end": 1151.12,
      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "If it's just not pleasing, we can just add more prompts, right?",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "마음에 안 된다면 프롬프트를 더 붙이고는 하면 되는데",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Naming Solutions"
    },
    {
      "start": 1151.12,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "Then it should just be seen as not following the prompt at all.",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그냥 프롱프트를 안 따르는 거라고 봐야겠죠",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Solutions"
    },
    {
      "start": 1153.44,
      "end": 1156.46,
      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "For example, if I say \"male\" but suddenly a female answers.",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "예를 들면 남자라고 전화했는데 갑자기 여자가 나온다거나",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 1167.12,
      "end": 1168.2,
      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "But I'm not really sure how to handle it though.",
      "utterance_type": "Naming Problems",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 근데 어떻게 할지는 잘 모르겠는데요?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Task/Process Negative"
    },
    {
      "start": 1168.2,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "What should we do?",
      "utterance_type": "Structuring",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 어떻게 해야 돼요?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Proactivity"
    },
    {
      "start": 1172.22,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "Wait a minute, this side is probably",
      "utterance_type": "Other / Neutral",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 잠시만요 이쪽은 아마",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Other / Neutral"
    },
    {
      "start": 1243.44,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "um",
      "utterance_type": "Other / Neutral",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 음",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Other / Neutral"
    },
    {
      "start": 1255.04,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "Taylor, what are you currently looking up?",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "Taylor님 지금 뭐 찾아보고 계신가요?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "Yes, that thing, you know There's a specific way to phrase the query to get the results",
      "utterance_type": "Knowledge Transfer",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 네 그 뭐냐 정확히 용어를 어떻게 해야 나오는지 이런 게 있어서",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Knowledge Transfer"
    },
    {
      "start": 1262.34,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "It seems like it might come up when searching about how the projector could behave this way",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Problems",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 프로젝터 어떻게 이럴수 있는지 이런 쪽으로 찾아서 나올 것 같긴 한데",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Solutions"
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      "start": 1266.84,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "Honestly, I'm not very familiar with the ML side",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 저는 사실 ML쪽은 제가 잘 몰라서",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 1270.74,
      "end": 1271.84,
      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "Yes, yes.",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 네, 네.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Active listening"
    },
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "A bit like what I mentioned earlier Looking into the concurrency aspect",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 약간 아까 전에 말씀드렸던 concurrency 쪽 살펴보는데",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Solutions"
    },
    {
      "start": 1278.74,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "They're not exactly the most recent studies, but concurrency bugs...",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 약간 다 좀 최근 연구들은 아니긴 한데 concurruncy 버그들을",
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    },
    {
      "start": 1285.52,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "A bit of automatic repair, doing automatic repair with SBSE",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 약간 오토매틱 리페어로 SBSE 로 오토매틱 리페어 하는",
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    },
    {
      "start": 1295.04,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "such approaches have been tried.",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그런 접근들이 있더라고요.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 1296.68,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "So, like,",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그래서 뭐",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Other / Neutral"
    },
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      "text": "So now adding or removing locks using GA, for example doing signals using GA, or alternatively creating test cases that trigger bugs or generating test sequences—there are many such studies",
      "utterance_type": "Knowledge Transfer",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그래서 이제 GA 같은 걸로 락을 추가한다던가 없앤다던지 시그널 이런 걸 GA로 한다던가 아니면 어떤 또는 버그를 유발하는 테스트 케이스를 또는 테스트 순서를 만들어 낸다거나 하는 그런 연구들이 많더라고요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Knowledge Transfer"
    },
    {
      "start": 1328.74,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "so I thought, what if we tried something like this",
      "utterance_type": "Naming Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 근데 이런 걸 해보면 어떨까 했는데",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Naming Solutions"
    },
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "but now here I haven't really thought much about how to highlight our differentiation yet",
      "utterance_type": "Naming Problems",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 근데 여기서 이제 저희 차별점을 어떻게 할까는 아직 잘 생각을 못해봤어요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Naming Problems"
    },
    {
      "start": 1339.42,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "Even in existing research, there are cases where concurrency bugs occur as well",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "지금 있는 연구에서 concurrency 버그 같은 경우에도 있어도",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 1345.86,
      "end": 1347.62,
      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "Are there instances where GA is used?",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "뭔가 GA를 쓰는 경우가 있어요?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 1347.62,
      "end": 1349.3,
      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "How is it used?",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "어떻게 쓰는 건가요?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 1358.74,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "Ah",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 아",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Active listening"
    },
    {
      "start": 1382.26,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "Just a moment I'll look it up and get back to you",
      "utterance_type": "Proactivity",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 잠시만요 찾아보고 올려드릴게요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Proactivity"
    },
    {
      "start": 1388.74,
      "end": 1390.74,
      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "Yes.",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 자",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Active listening"
    },
    {
      "start": 1418.74,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "Can I just look at this?",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 이거 보면 되나요?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 1435.9,
      "end": 1436.98,
      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "It seems to be this one",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 이거였던 것 같아요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 1436.98,
      "end": 1437.16,
      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "Yes",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 네",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Active listening"
    },
    {
      "start": 1437.16,
      "end": 1441.72,
      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "It's somewhat old",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 좀 옛날이긴 합니다",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 1441.72,
      "end": 1442.22,
      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "Yes",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 네",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Active listening"
    },
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      "start": 1442.22,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "Right now, the doc's",
      "utterance_type": "Other / Neutral",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 지금 그 독스의",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Other / Neutral"
    },
    {
      "start": 1445.22,
      "end": 1445.5,
      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "What is it?",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 뭐죠? ",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 1447.5,
      "end": 1451.5,
      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "Yes.",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 네.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Active listening"
    },
    {
      "start": 1455.5,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "Since it was posted on SBSSE",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " SBSSE에 올라온 거여서",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 1463.5,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "It's very short.",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "굉장히 짧군요.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 1463.6,
      "end": 1470.5,
      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "It seems like there have been additional studies on this as well, and it seems like there might be more.",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "이거로도 추가 연구들은 계속 있던 것 같은데 있을 것 같은데",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 1473.5,
      "end": 1482.2,
      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "Usually around the mid-2010s?",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "  보통 2010년대 중반?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 1482.2,
      "end": 1494.5,
      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "There were quite a few studies like this.",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 이 정도 연구들이 많더라고요.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 1498.5,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "Oh, they've created a mutation operator?",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "오, 뮤테이션 오퍼레이터를 만들었다네요?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 1498.6,
      "end": 1505.2,
      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "The method itself doesn't seem to be an extremely difficult approach.",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "방법 자체는 엄청 어려운 방법은 아닌 것 같은데",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Solutions"
    },
    {
      "start": 1505.2,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "Yes. Program it using a rotation operator, run dfitness on the test cases, then if it matches, just increase the probability.",
      "utterance_type": "Knowledge Transfer",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 네. rotation operator로 프로그램 만들어서 테스트 케이스에서 dfitness 돌린 다음에 맞으면 그냥 확률을 더 받아요.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Knowledge Transfer"
    },
    {
      "start": 1518.88,
      "end": 1519.88,
      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "Yes.",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 네.",
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      "text": "The issue is",
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      "korean_text": " 문제는",
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      "text": "which direction we're going to improve it from here",
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      "text": "that's the point—just simply reproducing this won't have any meaning",
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      "korean_text": " 이게 그죠 이거를 단순히 재현하는 것만으로는 의미가 없을 거에요",
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      "text": "What's the problem in this paper",
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      "text": "we need to identify what this paper failed to do, and then improve on that",
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      "korean_text": " 이 논문이 하지 못했던 점을 잡은 다음 그걸 개선한다는 걸 해야 되는데",
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      "text": "The problem is that it's somewhat outdated in terms of year",
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      "korean_text": " 문제가 좀 연도가 오래됐다 보니까",
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "That's right",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
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      "text": "It means that when we thought, “Ah, this part must have been lacking,” and then searched for it, it would come up with 100% certainty.",
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      "korean_text": " 이게 느낌이 이제 저희가 생각했을 때 아 찾았을 때 아 이거 부분이 모자랐을 것 같다라고 했을 때 검색했을때 100% 확률로 이제 그게 나올 거란 말이에요",
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      "text": "After improving it, I realized it had already been 15 years.",
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      "korean_text": " 그것을 개선했더니 이게 15년이나 됐다 보니까",
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "That's right",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
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      "korean_text": " 그렇죠",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Active listening"
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      "text": "For now, let me give a brief example...",
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      "korean_text": " 일단은 조금 예를 할...",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Structuring"
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "This topic doesn't seem too bad either",
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      "korean_text": " 얘도 나쁘지 않은 주제 같긴 한데",
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      "text": "I also thought about this...",
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      "korean_text": " 저도 이게 생각했...",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "text": "I thought about it",
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      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "text": "I wondered if anyone had tried solving concurrency bugs with SBSE",
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      "korean_text": "concurrency 버그 SBSE로 풀어본 사람이 있으려나 했는데",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "text": "It already existed 10 years ago, even 15 years ago",
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      "korean_text": " 이미 10년 전에, 15년 전에 있었더라고요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "Ah, but there seems to be something like that",
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      "korean_text": " 아 근데 좀 그런 게 있는 거 같아요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "It feels really hard to come up with a new idea",
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      "korean_text": " 새로운 생각이라는 걸 되게 하기 힘든 것 같은데",
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "You'll see when you watch the presentation",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 이게 발표 때 보시면 아시겠지만",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "text": "It's a real disaster with massive overlap",
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      "korean_text": " 정말로 오버랩이 많은 대참사가",
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    },
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      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "That's right",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그렇죠",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Active listening"
    },
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      "text": "But it didn't seem to be related to concurrency, so during the presentation...",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "근데 이게 또 concurrency 관련은 없었던 것 같아서 발표때는",
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "Oh yes, it wasn't included in the presentation",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "아 네, 발표때는 없었죠",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Active listening"
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      "text": "It wasn't in the presentation, but yes, just because it's not there doesn't mean it's a good topic.",
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      "korean_text": "발표때는 없었는데 네, 없다고 해서 좋은 주제가 될 거냐고 하면 그건 또 아니거든요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Solutions"
    },
    {
      "start": 1619.34,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "Exactly, exactly",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그렇지 그렇지",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Active listening"
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "They might change the topic or they might not know",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 걔네도 뭐 주제 바꿀 수도 있고 모르는 거고",
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      "text": "Yes, if I meet with the professor again, I'd like to ask once more how we could handle this, regarding this matter.",
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      "korean_text": " 네, 저는 교수님 한 번 더 만난다고 하면 한번 여쭤봤으면 좋겠어요 이거 관련해서 어떻게 할 수 있을지 그러니까 이거 관련에서",
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "Or maybe I'll send a more detailed report to the professor's email this time.",
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      "korean_text": " 아니면 이번에 좀 자세히 있어서 교수님 이메일로 보고",
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      "text": "I wish we could have done a bit better, so that we could narrow this down to this extent.",
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      "korean_text": " 이건 걸러라 이 정도로 할 수 있게 좀 더 잘 했었으면 좋겠네요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Solutions"
    },
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      "start": 1642.34,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "It might be sufficient just to do it on a daily basis.",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그냥 매일 정도로만 충분할 수도 있어요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Naming Solutions"
    },
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "It seems better to just do it at this level.",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 이 정도로만 하는 게 좋아 보입니다",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Solutions"
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "As for having more meetings, we actually have another team working on the development, so...",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 더 미팅하기에는요 저희 사실 다른 팀이 개발 중일 텐데",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "We're still not even settled on our topic right now.",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "저희 지금 주제도 못 정하고 있는 상황이라서",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Naming Problems"
    },
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      "start": 1652.98,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "We only have about a month and a week left, right? Until submission.",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 저희 이거 한 달 하고 일주일 정도 남지 않았어요? 제출할 때까지",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
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      "start": 1657.56,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "Seriously?",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 진짜요?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Social / Humor"
    },
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      "start": 1658.2,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "Legend.",
      "utterance_type": "Social / Humor",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 레전드",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Social / Humor"
    },
    {
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      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "No, we also need to kind of quickly get our report done, so...",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 아니 저희 보고서도 쓱 막 그래야 돼가지고",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 1660.56,
      "end": 1665.2,
      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "We have to read the report, so the deadline is actually quite tight",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 보고서도 읽고 그래서 사실 마감이 그래도 타이트한 편이에요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 1665.2,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "Can I just ask after class?",
      "utterance_type": "Proactivity",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "그냥 수업 끝나고 물어봐도 될까요?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Proactivity"
    },
    {
      "start": 1668.04,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "Yes, I’ll ask in tomorrow’s class.",
      "utterance_type": "Proactivity",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 네 아마 내일 수업으로 물어보고",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Proactivity"
    },
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      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "I have my next class, so",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 저는 다음에 수업이 있어서",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 1672.08,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "I can ask when I have time",
      "utterance_type": "Proactivity",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 시간 되는 상황에 물어보면 돼요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Proactivity"
    },
    {
      "start": 1673.98,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "Since we’re heading out, I think we can ask then.",
      "utterance_type": "Proactivity",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 저희가 나오니까 저희가 물어보면 될 것 같아서",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Proactivity"
    },
    {
      "start": 1676.44,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "Thank you",
      "utterance_type": "Cooperation",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 감사합니다",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Cooperation"
    },
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      "start": 1678.12,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "This is just a side note",
      "utterance_type": "Other / Neutral",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 이건 사족인데",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Other / Neutral"
    },
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      "start": 1679.3,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "But I’m a little",
      "utterance_type": "Other / Neutral",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 근데 저 살짝",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Other / Neutral"
    },
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      "start": 1680,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "Oh yes, go ahead",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 아 네 말씀하세요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Active listening"
    },
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      "start": 1681,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "I tried accessing the machine once",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 머신 한번 접속해 봤는데",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
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      "start": 1684.3,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "It seems not bad",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 나쁘지 않은 거 같긴 해요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 1685.74,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "So it has the same A100?",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그럼 똑같이 A100 들어있나요?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 1687.5,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "Yes, this time 20GB",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 예 이번에 20GB",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 1689.02,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "Oh 20GB",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 오 20GB",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Active listening"
    },
    {
      "start": 1690.2,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "Last time it was 10GB",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 저번에 10GB였는데",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 1692.14,
      "end": 1694.26,
      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "They only gave me the 10GB one in Intro to AI class.",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 인공지능개론 때 10GB 짜려줬거든요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Problems"
    },
    {
      "start": 1694.26,
      "end": 1696.98,
      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "VRAM this time is 20GB",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "VRAM 이번에 20GB",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "Just a side note But the capacity is the same, 100GB",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "사족입니다 근데 똑같이 용량이 100GB라서",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "start": 1702.74,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "I really wish you wouldn't do Vision",
      "utterance_type": "Social Negative",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 비전은 제발 안 해줬으면 좋겠어요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Social Negative"
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    {
      "start": 1705.18,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "Let's go with Vision.",
      "utterance_type": "Proactivity",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 비전으로 하시는 걸로",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Proactivity"
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    {
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      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "It was kind of horrifying back then",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 좀 끔찍했어요 그때",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "start": 1710.1,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "Regarding the test cases, it means checking fitness.",
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      "korean_text": " 테스트 케이스에 대해서 피트니스를 본다는 거고",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "start": 1717.1,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "At least with the recent ones",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그나마 최근 거랑은",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "There is some benefit, though",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 이익이 있긴 한데",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Solutions"
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      "start": 1724.26,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "Hmm...",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 하...",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Active listening"
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      "start": 1728.14,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "What you were just saying",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 아까 하시는 말씀이",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Active listening"
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      "start": 1729.64,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "Oh, I forgot Huh?",
      "utterance_type": "Other / Neutral",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 아 까먹었어 어?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Other / Neutral"
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    {
      "start": 1733.8,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "Huh?",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 어?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Active listening"
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      "start": 1734.76,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "Oh, right But what was that thing OS asked for?",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 아 맞아 근데 OS에서 시키는 그거는 뭐예요?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 1739.38,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "Huh?",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 네?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Active listening"
    },
    {
      "start": 1740.1,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "I don’t know because I’m not in OS",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 제가 OS 안 들어서 모르는데",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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    {
      "start": 1741.78,
      "end": 1746.14,
      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "Something OS asked you to do? You said you were kind of annoyed about something OS asked you to do, right?",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "OS에서 시키는 뭔가 뭔가 OS에서 좀 열 받으셨다고 하셨잖아요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 1746.14,
      "end": 1748.22,
      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "I didn’t hear that from there",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 거기서는 안 들었어요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 1748.22,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "I thought maybe if I look at some cases, I'd see something to change.",
      "utterance_type": "Proactivity",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 뭔가 좀 사례를 보면 좀 바꿔볼 게 보일까 해서",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Proactivity"
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "The cases are just similar.",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그냥 사례가 비슷해요.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 1753.98,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "The concurrency bug doesn't appear when testing once, but appears only when running multiple times, once a deadlock occurs.",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "concurrency 버그가 사실 한번 테스팅 할땐 안나오고 여러번 돌렸을때 한번 데드락이 걸리면 나오는",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 1761.94,
      "end": 1770.1,
      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "So, the test has timing involved. Because ultimately, when the program has certain threads and certain schedulings,",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그러니까 테스트가 타이밍이라는게 있어요. 왜냐면 이게 결국에는 프로그램이 어떤 스레드가 있고 어떤 스메드가 있을 때",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Problems"
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    {
      "start": 1770.1,
      "end": 1775.62,
      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "When this one friend, A, holds the resource, we end up placing a lock, right?",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Problems",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 얘가 A라는 친구가 이걸 점유하고 있을 때 결국 락을 걸잖아요 저희가",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Problems"
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      "start": 1775.62,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "But a deadlock may or may not occur.",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Problems",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "근데 이 데드락이라는 게 생길 수도 있고 안생길 수도 있어요.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Problems"
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      "start": 1781.22,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "Oh, so you're running the test concurrently multiple times?",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "아 테스트 자체를 concurrent 하게 여러개 돌리는거에요?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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    {
      "start": 1784.92,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "No, since it's a test, we're looking at how the OS itself works.",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 아니요 테스트니까 OS가 자체가 어떻게 되는지",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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    {
      "start": 1789.52,
      "end": 1791.12,
      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "We're running multithreading",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 멀티스레드를 돌리거든요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 1791.12,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "There are multiple programs running at the same time on the threads.",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 스레드가 동시에 여러가지 프로그램들이 있는데",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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    {
      "start": 1794.78,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "When they access a single resource For example, just accessing a single resource like a queue or a list",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그게 한 가지 자원에 접근할 때가 있어요 예를 들어서 어떤 뭐 그냥 큐라든지 리스트라든지라는 어떤 한가지 자원의 접속할 때 가 있는데",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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    {
      "start": 1806.08,
      "end": 1812.28,
      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "When that happens, they simultaneously read and simultaneously obtain... So simultaneous access is actually impossible, right?",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Problems",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그럴 때 동시에 얘가 읽고 동시에 얻... 그러니까 동시는 사실 불가능하잖아요.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Problems"
    },
    {
      "start": 1812.28,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "So in fact, all operations are atomic",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그러니까 사실 이게 모든 오퍼레이션이 아토믹하게 이루어지는데",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 1817.08,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "That goes to Thread-A then",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그게 이제 A 스레드로 갔다가",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "start": 1819.2,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "So this transition, when Thread-A moves and then Thread-B moves, going back and forth like this, our brain now perceives it as happening simultaneously.",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그러니까 이 전환이 그러니까 A 스 레드가 움직였다가 B 스레드가 움직였다고 이렇게 왔다 갔다 하니까 저희 두뇌는 이제 동시에 되는 것처럼 보이잖아요.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Knowledge Transfer"
    },
    {
      "start": 1830.16,
      "end": 1839.2,
      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "But this operation, for example, if you look at it a bit more closely,",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 근데 이 연산이 예를 들어서 어 그러니까 좀 보면은",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Knowledge Transfer"
    },
    {
      "start": 1839.2,
      "end": 1855.96,
      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "it seems we might need an explanation about deadlock, because ultimately what we're trying to solve is that there could be various situations, as you mentioned earlier, deadlock might occur or might not occur, right?",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Problems",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "그냥 데드락에 대한 설명이 필요할 것 같은데요 왜냐면 지금 대드락을 결국에는 저희가 해결하고자 하는게 결국에는 여러 상황이 있을 수 있는데 아까 전에 말씀하신 대로 대들 낙이 생길 수도 있고 안생길 수도 있는거잖아요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Problems"
    },
    {
      "start": 1855.96,
      "end": 1873.36,
      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "Now, for example, a friend called A wants to solve a problem, A and B, A might also need to be connected, and B is also needed, but the friend called A now has a lock on it, and if another friend, another thread, has a lock on the friend called B,",
      "utterance_type": "Knowledge Transfer",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 여러가지 이제 예를 들어서 A라는 친구가 이제 문제를 해결 하고 싶은데 A랑 B, A도 접속해 A에 대해서 필요할 수도 있고 B라는 것도 필요한데 근데 A란 친구가 이제 락을 가지고 있고 다른 친구가, 다른 스레드가 B란 친구를 락으로 가지고 있으면",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Knowledge Transfer"
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    {
      "start": 1873.36,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "they're both holding onto it, Oh? I need A and B at the same time, so I have to wait,",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 서로가 이걸 물고 어? 난 A, B가 동시에 필요한데 기다려야겠다",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Problems"
    },
    {
      "start": 1877.08,
      "end": 1877.54,
      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "Ah, that's what it is?",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 아, 그런 거예요?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Active listening"
    },
    {
      "start": 1877.54,
      "end": 1881.28,
      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "Another friend also needs A and D at the same time, and would prefer if I were left out, kind of like this.",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Problems",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 다른 친구도 A, D가 동시 필요한데 날 빼면 좋다 약간 이런 식으로",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Knowledge Transfer"
    },
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      "start": 1881.28,
      "end": 1882.36,
      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "Yes, yes",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "예스, 예스",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Active listening"
    },
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      "start": 1882.36,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "Forever, from now on.",
      "utterance_type": "Other / Neutral",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "영원히 이제",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Other / Neutral"
    },
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      "start": 1883.58,
      "end": 1885.16,
      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "So we're just stuck like this, right?",
      "utterance_type": "Naming Problems",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그러니까 서로 이렇게 걸리는 거잖아요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Naming Problems"
    },
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      "start": 1885.16,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "We're locked, so now we're both saying, 'You let go first, you let go first.'",
      "utterance_type": "Social / Humor",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 락이 걸려서 서로가 이제 니 먼저 놔, 니 먼저 놔를 하는 거죠",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Social / Humor"
    },
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "That's right, that's right",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그렇죠, 그렇죠",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Active listening"
    },
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      "end": 1894.32,
      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "It depends on the situation. It’s not just this one deadlock.",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그게 막 상황 따라 다르긴 해요 이것만 데드락이 된 건 아니라서",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Problems"
    },
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      "start": 1894.32,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "There are definitely several conditions",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 조건이 암튼 몇 개가 있는데",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
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      "start": 1897.64,
      "end": 1901.9,
      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "For that reason, if you get stuck in an infinite deadlock, that's the same thing.",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Problems",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그런 이유로 무한 교착 상태에 빠지면 그게 그거죠",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Problems"
    },
    {
      "start": 1901.9,
      "end": 1905.78,
      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "But this is the most difficult problem",
      "utterance_type": "Naming Problems",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 근데 이게 제일 까다로운 문제가",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Naming Problems"
    },
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      "start": 1905.78,
      "end": 1912.84,
      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "You have to move in this order, in the order that this deadlock occurs, if the deadlock to happen.",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "이 순서대로, 이 데드락이 발생하는 순서대로 움직여야, 데드록이 발생하면",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Solutions"
    },
    {
      "start": 1912.84,
      "end": 1915.5,
      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "It's quite tricky to catch",
      "utterance_type": "Naming Problems",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 되게 캐치하기 어렵기도 하고",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Problems"
    },
    {
      "start": 1915.5,
      "end": 1920.34,
      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "And even if it happens afterward, actually reproducing that situation is really hard.",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Problems",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그 다음에 발생한다고 해도 그 상황을 재현하는 게 사실 되게 힘들어요.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Problems"
    },
    {
      "start": 1920.34,
      "end": 1924.9,
      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "It's very difficult for humans to solve",
      "utterance_type": "Naming Problems",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 사람이 풀기가 되게 힘들다는 거고",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Problems"
    },
    {
      "start": 1924.9,
      "end": 1929.18,
      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "So tools like automatic repair have been researched like this",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그래서 이렇게 automatic repair 같은",
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "It seems tools like automatic repair have been researched.",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 툴들이 연구가 된 것 같고",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "start": 1935.86,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "For bugs, usually it's about increasing coverage, or in testing, honestly, just increasing coverage, or maybe auto-repairing the bug. Honestly, it feels a bit vague. Because when I tried to suggest using something else as an oracle again, I got pushed back by the professor.",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "버그 관련된 것은 보통 사실 커버리지를 늘리는 거나 테스트 관련에선 그냥 솔직히 커버리지를 늘리거나 아니면 버그한테 오토리페어 아니면 솔직히 조금 애매한 느낌 많이 들긴 하네요 왜냐하면 다른 걸 또 오라클로 쓰자고 하니까 교수님한테 이제 빠꾸 먹었기도 했고",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Problems"
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      "start": 1953.38,
      "end": 1969.3,
      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "But there's something I just don't quite understand. Then does that mean the test case is always that, inter-, um, what's it called, the case where a lock occurs?",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 근데 뭔가 제가 좀 이해가 안 되는 거네요 그러면 테스트 케이스라는 거는 항상 그 인터 뭐래 그게 락이 발생하는 그런 경우가 되는 거예요?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "end": 1974,
      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "But this is really ambiguous",
      "utterance_type": "Naming Problems",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 근데 이게 참 애매한게",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Naming Problems"
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      "start": 1976.84,
      "end": 1980.18,
      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "It should probably be considered high probability that a lock occurs",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "확률이 높다고 봐야겠죠? 락이 발생할",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Solutions"
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    {
      "start": 1982.06,
      "end": 1988.58,
      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "Honestly, code that guarantees a lock will always happen is quite rare",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그러니까 락을 온전하게 무조건 발생한다고 만들 수 있는 코드는 솔직히 좀 드물죠",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "start": 1988.58,
      "end": 1991.44,
      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "That's because ultimately it's parallel",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Problems",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그건 왜냐면 결국은 병렬이다 보니까",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Problems"
    },
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      "start": 1991.44,
      "end": 1995.3,
      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "You'd have to have complete control over the situation",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Problems",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 완전히 상황을 통제해야만 ",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Solutions"
    },
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      "start": 2000.88,
      "end": 2001.06,
      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "100% certainty that a lock occurs means the code is fundamentally flawed, right",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Problems",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 100% 사실 락이 걸리면 그건 아예 잘못 만든 코드고요 네",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Problems"
    },
    {
      "start": 2001.06,
      "end": 2007.16,
      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "So it's possible to make the probability quite high, right?",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그러니까 어느 정도 확률이 높게 만드는 거는 가능하겠죠",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
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      "start": 2007.16,
      "end": 2009.6,
      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "But then, if it locks, can't we just turn it off and turn it back on?",
      "utterance_type": "Naming Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 근데 그럼 락 걸리면 그냥 껐다가 다시 켜면 되는 거 아니에요?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Naming Solutions"
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "No, not really.",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 어 아니요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
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      "start": 2010.64,
      "end": 2016.22,
      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "But we can't do that with our large programs, so. We can't simply",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Problems",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 근데 그렇게 저희가 큰 프로그램에 대해서는 그렇게 할 수 없으니까요 저희가 단순히",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Solutions"
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      "start": 2016.22,
      "end": 2022.68,
      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "Then, once we recognize that the lock has been triggered, we need external intervention to unlock it,",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그럼 이게 그 락 이 걸렸다는 게 인지가 되면은 뭔가 외부에서 개입을 해서 걔를 풀어줘야 된다라는 것도",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Solutions"
    },
    {
      "start": 2022.68,
      "end": 2024.84,
      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "meaning it can't be unlocked.",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Problems",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그러니까 풀 수가 없는 거죠",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 2024.84,
      "end": 2026.16,
      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "It must be turned off unconditionally.",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 무조건 꺼야 돼요.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Solutions"
    },
    {
      "start": 2026.16,
      "end": 2028.04,
      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "So software-wise, we can't unlock it.",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그니까 소프트웨어적으로는 그거 못 풀어요.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 2028.04,
      "end": 2029.78,
      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "So what is this person trying to do?",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그럼 얘는 뭘 하겠다는 거예요?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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    {
      "start": 2029.78,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "What is this?",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 이거는?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Other / Neutral"
    },
    {
      "start": 2030.84,
      "end": 2031.6,
      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "What kind of thing?",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 어떤 거?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Active listening"
    },
    {
      "start": 2031.6,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "What does the paper you sent do then?",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 보내주신 논문은 그러면 뭘 하는?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "start": 2035.04,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "Change the thread execution order",
      "utterance_type": "Naming Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 쓰레드 실행 순서를 바꿔서",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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    {
      "start": 2037.8,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "No, that's not it",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 아니 그게 아니라",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "So, if it is locked",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그러니까 락에 걸",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Naming Solutions"
    },
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      "start": 2042.16,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "So there are actually many different types of locks. Any single piece of data",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그니까 락이 종류가 되게 여러 가지 있습니다. 하나의 어떤 데이터도",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 2048.06,
      "end": 2049.2,
      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "Yes yes.",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 네네.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Active listening"
    },
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      "start": 2050.4,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "What",
      "utterance_type": "Other / Neutral",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 뭐",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Other / Neutral"
    },
    {
      "start": 2051.28,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "The order of acquiring locks It could or could not result in a deadlock, depending on the type of lock",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 락을 거는 순서 그 다음에 락의 종류에 의해서 데드락이 걸릴 수 있는 조건이 될 수도 있고 아닐 수도 있는 거죠",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Knowledge Transfer"
    },
    {
      "start": 2065.16,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "Trying out various configurations to minimize the likelihood of deadlocks",
      "utterance_type": "Naming Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 여러가지를 걸어보면서 최대한 덜 걸리게끔 하는 게",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Naming Solutions"
    },
    {
      "start": 2073.16,
      "end": 2076.94,
      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "Ultimately, that's the direction of automatic repair",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "결국 오토매틱 리페어의 방향성이죠",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Solutions"
    },
    {
      "start": 2076.94,
      "end": 2082.06,
      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "I understood it as changing the code itself",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 코드 자체를 바꾸는 걸로 저는 이해했거든요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 2082.06,
      "end": 2085.74,
      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "While keeping the execution the same when code is present,",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 코드가 있을 때 실행하는 거는 똑같이 되면서",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 2085.74,
      "end": 2089.9,
      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "Just slightly adjusting the order to avoid locks as much as possible",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 뭔가 순서만 조금씩 바꿔서 락을 최대한 안 걸리게 한다",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Solutions"
    },
    {
      "start": 2089.9,
      "end": 2090.9,
      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "Is that right?",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그런 건가요?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Active listening"
    },
    {
      "start": 2090.9,
      "end": 2091.9,
      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "Order...",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 순서...",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Other / Neutral"
    },
    {
      "start": 2095.08,
      "end": 2097.86,
      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "No, let's just change the code itself a bit",
      "utterance_type": "Naming Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "아니 코드 자체를 좀 바꿔서",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Naming Solutions"
    },
    {
      "start": 2111.86,
      "end": 2122.86,
      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "So, um, changing the order of the locks?",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "그러니까 음 락의 순서를 바꾸는것?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Active listening"
    },
    {
      "start": 2122.86,
      "end": 2125.26,
      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "But it is a somewhat difficult topic, right?",
      "utterance_type": "Naming Problems",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 근데 약간 어려운 주제는 맞아서",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Solutions"
    },
    {
      "start": 2125.26,
      "end": 2128.91,
      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "Locks are also a tricky part in OS,",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 락? OS에서도 좀 어려운 파트거든요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 2128.91,
      "end": 2129.74,
      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "you know",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그죠",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 2129.74,
      "end": 2137.18,
      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "But I mean In fact, if there's only one lock, there would be no deadlock",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 근데 그니까 사실 락이 하나만 있으면 걸릴 일이 없어요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Knowledge Transfer"
    },
    {
      "start": 2137.18,
      "end": 2139.18,
      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "In most cases, deadlocks can occur.",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 대부분의 경우에선 데드락이",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 2139.18,
      "end": 2145.98,
      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "But usually, when there are multiple types of locks Deadlocks can occur depending on the order in which the locks are acquired",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Problems",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 근데 보통 락의 여러 종류가 있을 때 그 락을 acquire 하는 순서에 따라서 데드락이 걸릴수도 있거든요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Knowledge Transfer"
    },
    {
      "start": 2145.98,
      "end": 2153.72,
      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "For example, if there's an A lock and a B lock Thread A gets A first, then gets B later",
      "utterance_type": "Knowledge Transfer",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 예를 들어서 A락이 있고 B락 있는데 슬레드 A는 A를 먼저 얻고 B를 나중에 얻어요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Knowledge Transfer"
    },
    {
      "start": 2153.72,
      "end": 2157.7,
      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "Then Thread B gets... first...",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "그 다음에 스레드 B는.. 첫 번째..",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Other / Neutral"
    },
    {
      "start": 2161.12,
      "end": 2163.78,
      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "This hasn't come out yet",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 이게 아직 안 나오네",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Other / Neutral"
    },
    {
      "start": 2163.78,
      "end": 2165.44,
      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "Ah, this is..",
      "utterance_type": "Other / Neutral",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 아 이게..",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Other / Neutral"
    },
    {
      "start": 2170.32,
      "end": 2173.24,
      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "Looks like semaphores, mutexes, and all that stuff are going to come up.",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "어째 세마포어, 뮤텍스 이런 거 다 나오겠다",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 2173.24,
      "end": 2179.24,
      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "LOL Ah.. This is.. What is this?",
      "utterance_type": "Other / Neutral",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 아.. 이게.. 뭔데 이게?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Other / Neutral"
    },
    {
      "start": 2179.24,
      "end": 2181.24,
      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "Ah.. But I do too",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 아.. 저도 근데",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Active listening"
    },
    {
      "start": 2181.24,
      "end": 2183.24,
      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "For me, now",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 저도 이제",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Active listening"
    },
    {
      "start": 2183.24,
      "end": 2185.24,
      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "When I took it in 2021",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 21년도에 들었을 때",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 2185.24,
      "end": 2191.24,
      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "I, this, here",
      "utterance_type": "Other / Neutral",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 제가 이거 여기",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Other / Neutral"
    },
    {
      "start": 2193.24,
      "end": 2195.24,
      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": " A",
      "utterance_type": "Other / Neutral",
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      "korean_text": " A",
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      "text": "tthread.",
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      "korean_text": " tthread.",
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      "text": "lock has two types, a-lock, b-lock",
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      "text": "This one starts acquiring locks in the order of first getting a, then b",
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      "text": "The other one is programmed to acquire locks in the order of first getting b, then a",
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      "text": "But since the order starts with thread1 executing first, it acquires a-rock",
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      "text": "Then thread2 gets the second order and obtains b-rock",
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      "text": "A is supposed to acquire B-lock in the third step, but it’s already acquiring it now, right?",
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      "text": "So this one waits for it",
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      "text": "Now A should get in fourth position, but it has to wait again",
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      "text": "So the actual problem is this order",
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      "text": "Oh, you mean changing the order of obtaining the rock?",
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      "text": "So instead of doing it like this now Let’s make it so that A gets obtained after B Or let’s make it so that B gets obtained after A",
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      "korean_text": " 그래서 이거를 이제 이렇게 안하고 B 다음에 A를 얻게 하면 A 다음에 B를 얻게 하면",
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      "text": "Yes",
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      "text": "In this case,",
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      "text": "Wait, how do we do this?",
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      "korean_text": " 잠깐만 이거 어떻게 해지고",
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      "text": "I looked it up recently, and it turns out this is just an LLM clicker too.",
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      "korean_text": "이것도 결국 요즘에 찾아보니까 LLM 딸깍이네요",
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      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "That's right.",
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      "text": "Ah, well, in this case, When selected as 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th, A acquires the A-lock first, and the 2nd thread will wait for A.",
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      "korean_text": " 아 하여튼 이 경우에는 이제 1번 2번 3번 4번으로 선정된다고 했을 때 a 가 먼저 에이 락을 얻고 2번 스레드는 a 를 기다리겠죠",
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      "text": "When proceeding to the 3rd, it acquires the B-lock, and upon returning to the 4th, it will keep waiting for A again.",
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      "korean_text": "3번으로 가서는 b 락을 얻고 다시 4번으로 돌아오면 얘는 또 a를 계속 기다리고 있겠죠",
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      "text": "It will keep coming back here, and once it finishes, it will release A and then release B. Then it will go back to acquire the A-lock and then the B-lock, so it can now proceed normally.",
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      "korean_text": "얘는 이제 계속 여기서 뭔가 돌아와서 이제 여기선 나면 끝나면 a 를 풀어주고 b를 풀어줄 거란 말이에요 그러면 얘가 이제 다시 A락을 얻고 B락 을 얻어서 이제 얘는 정상적으로 돌아가는거죠",
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      "text": "But now, since this order is so closely interrelated, you can solve this by mutation.",
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      "korean_text": " 근데 이제 이 순서 같은게 되게 밀접하게 연관되다 보니까 이런걸 뮤테이션 해서 풀 수 있다는 거죠",
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      "text": "You're searching for the order in which locks are acquired per thread, right?",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "스레드별로 락 얻는 순서를 탐색을 한다는 거죠?",
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      "text": "If you look at it that way, yes—both the order and the fact that there are somewhat different types of order",
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      "korean_text": " 그렇게 보면 그렇죠 순서도 그렇고 사실 순서 종류가 약간",
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      "text": "This is a very simple case, and as this grows larger, the number of locks increases significantly",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 이거는 되게 단순한 케이스고 이게 되게 늘어날수록 락도 많아지고 하면",
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "Now, it's not just using a single lock in the operating system anymore",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 이제 되게 운영체제에서 락을 하나만 쓰는 것도 아니고",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "text": "You're using all sorts of many different locks",
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      "korean_text": " 여러가지 되게 많은 락을 쓰거든요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "text": "Detecting this is extremely difficult, not to mention When something goes wrong, fixing it is also extremely difficult, that's the point",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그걸 디텍트 하기가 굉장히 힘들뿐더러 뭔가 문제가 발생했을 때도 고치기가 굉장히 힘들긴 하다는 거죠",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Problems"
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      "start": 2360.84,
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      "text": "These days, they say they’re using LLMs, but so now...",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 요즘 LLM 쓴다고 하긴 하지만 그래서 이제",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Other / Neutral"
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      "start": 2366.28,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "Huh? The photo got cut off",
      "utterance_type": "Other / Neutral",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 어라? 사진이 잘렸는데",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Other / Neutral"
    },
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      "start": 2368.3,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "Ah yes, that's a different matter",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 아 예 딴 얘기입니다",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Active listening"
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      "text": "This is hard to understand if you're weak on Lock's concept",
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      "korean_text": " 이거는 Lock의 개념이 약하시면 이해가 좀 힘들긴 해요.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Problems"
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      "text": "It's a very ambiguous concept",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "되게 모호한 개념이라서",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Naming Problems"
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      "start": 2385.12,
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      "text": "Since it's a bug you'd never encounter in a normal environment",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Problems",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 일반적인 환경에서는 볼일이 경험할 일이 없는 버그니까",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Problems"
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      "start": 2388.56,
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      "text": "Only in multithreaded or more complex environments",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Problems",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "멀티스레드 이상 환경에서만",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "Well, but in recent research, when you use languages like Go, you sometimes end up using it.",
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      "korean_text": " 뭐 근데 최근 연구, Go 같은 언어 쓰다보면 가끔 쓰게 되거든요?",
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "Now, when working in Go, sometimes I run into locks with it, so occasionally while working on Go...",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 이제 고에서 쓰면 가끔 저랑 락 그러는 경우가 생겨서 가끔 고에서 작업하다 보면",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "So, regarding this, there are quite a lot of enthusiasts, which is probably why Rust...",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그래서 이거 관련해서 좀 덕후들이 많은 게 아마 그래서 러스트",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "start": 2419.18,
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      "text": "Rust is definitely quite popular too, and when I told GPT and Gemini to go find it for me and really push them to do it...",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 러스트도 확실히 많기도 하고 그리고 제가 이제 gpt랑 제미나이한테 채찍질해서 찾아오라고 하니까",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "start": 2429.4,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "Yes",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 네",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Active listening"
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      "start": 2431.1,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "Now with LLMs There are cases combining dynamic analysis, static analysis, and LLMs",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " LLM한테 이제 그 동적분석이랑 정적분석이랑 LLMs랑 합쳐서 하는 케이스도 있고",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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    {
      "start": 2439.72,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "Using that, cases where they find the wrapper from Uber?",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그걸로 우버 쪽에 우버에서 나오는 래퍼?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "start": 2446.34,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "There are cases where they find the wrapper and do it that way.",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 래퍼를 찾아서 하는 케이스가 있어요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "start": 2448.52,
      "end": 2449.98,
      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "Could you please upload that once?",
      "utterance_type": "Proactivity",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그거 한번 올려주실 수 있으세요?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Proactivity"
    },
    {
      "start": 2449.98,
      "end": 2451.98,
      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "Yes, I'll try one more time.",
      "utterance_type": "Proactivity",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 네 한번 더 해볼게요.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Proactivity"
    },
    {
      "start": 2451.98,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "Just a moment.",
      "utterance_type": "Other / Neutral",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 잠시만요.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Other / Neutral"
    },
    {
      "start": 2453.98,
      "end": 2455.98,
      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "So you’re saying you’ll use both “dynamic” and “dynamic analysis”?",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 동적이랑 동적분석 다 쓴다네요?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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    {
      "start": 2455.98,
      "end": 2459.98,
      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "It's not that I said I'd write everything; I only said I'd write the program analysis,",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 잠시 다 쓴더고는 아니고 프로그램 분석만 쓴다고 했고",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "start": 2459.98,
      "end": 2461.98,
      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "Me too, right now.",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 저도 지금",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Other / Neutral"
    },
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      "start": 2461.98,
      "end": 2463.98,
      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "First of all,",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 일단은",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Other / Neutral"
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      "start": 2463.98,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "Just a moment. Oh, but by figuring out the order in which the locks are acquired dynamically,",
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      "korean_text": " 잠시만뇨 아 근데 락 걸리는 순서를 동적으로 알아내가지고",
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      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그걸 동적 분석을 하는거겠죠?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "text": "Dynamically just that",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 동적으로 그냥 그",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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    {
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      "text": "How to do that gridlock thing",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그리드락 그거를 어떻게 하는지",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Naming Problems"
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    {
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      "text": "Data race, but a little different from luck.",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 데이터레이스 약간 근데 럭이랑은 좀 다르게",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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    {
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      "text": "It's hard to say life is completely identical",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "라이프가 완전히 똑같다고 하긴 힘들어요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Solutions"
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    {
      "start": 2481.54,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "First of all...",
      "utterance_type": "Structuring",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 일단...",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Other / Neutral"
    },
    {
      "start": 2483.54,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "Can't hear, right?",
      "utterance_type": "Other / Neutral",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 안 들리네?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Other / Neutral"
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      "start": 2489.54,
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      "text": "Anyway, including lock-related concurrency bugs...",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "여하튼 락 포함해서는 concurrency 버그를...",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "text": "I have a very new paper.",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 굉장히 새로운 논문을 가지고 있어요.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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    {
      "start": 2505.88,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "It's very strong.",
      "utterance_type": "Naming Problems",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 엄청 세요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Naming Problems"
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "Just a moment",
      "utterance_type": "Other / Neutral",
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      "korean_text": " 잠시만요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Other / Neutral"
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    {
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      "text": "Doctor Fix",
      "utterance_type": "Naming Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 닥터 픽스",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Other / Neutral"
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      "text": "Industry scale, but the problem is that now there’s this thing...",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 인더스트리 스케일 근데 문제는 이제 이런게 있던데",
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      "text": "What we need to decide is Whether we're really going to do this topic",
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      "korean_text": " 저희가 고민해야 되는건 그러면 진짜 이 주제를 할건지",
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      "text": "Whether we're going to do a topic like this How we're going to approach this topic",
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      "korean_text": " 이런식의 주제를할건데 그러면 이 주제를 어떻게 할건지를",
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      "korean_text": " 교수님이랑 이야기를 할 때 저희가 이런 주제를 해서 여기서 디테일하게 정해야 되는데",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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    {
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      "end": 2537.54,
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      "text": "it seems like the details aren't clearly settled",
      "utterance_type": "Naming Problems",
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      "korean_text": "디테일하게 안 정해져 있는 것 같아서",
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "Just a moment",
      "utterance_type": "Other / Neutral",
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      "korean_text": " 잠시만요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Other / Neutral"
    },
    {
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "It's sad",
      "utterance_type": "Social / Humor",
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      "korean_text": "새드한데",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Social / Humor"
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      "text": "It's a very sad situation right now",
      "utterance_type": "Social / Humor",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "지금 굉장히 새드한 상황이에요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Social / Humor"
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      "text": "But I actually want to discuss the details with the professor",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "근데 저는 디테일을 교수님하고 논의를 사실 해보고 싶거든요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Proactivity"
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    {
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      "text": "The main topic is",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 큰 주제는",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Structuring"
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      "text": "So, what the professor likes",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그러니까 교수님이 좋아하시는",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "start": 2561.54,
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      "text": "Honestly, I personally don't know he likes it or not, but we think there are limits to what we can figure out.",
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      "korean_text": " 하실지는 사실 개인적으로 모르겠긴 한데 저희가 뭔가 알 수 있는 건 한계가 있다고 생각합니다.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Problems"
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    {
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "When they came by last time and talked, they explained it in great detail.",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 저번에 찾아와서 얘기해 보니까 되게 자세히 설명을 해주시더라고요.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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    {
      "start": 2576.32,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "We didn't get a clear answer then either.",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그때도 답이 나온 건 아니었지만.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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    {
      "start": 2579.14,
      "end": 2581.26,
      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "But it was really...",
      "utterance_type": "Other / Neutral",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 근데 되게...",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Other / Neutral"
    },
    {
      "start": 2581.26,
      "end": 2584.16,
      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "something there.",
      "utterance_type": "Other / Neutral",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 뭐가 있다.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Other / Neutral"
    },
    {
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "They explained it really well, saying this way of doing it is a bit not great, but this direction is fine, so if we had more time, it would be better.",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 이거는 이렇게 해서 좀 별로고 이런 방향은 괜찮고 이런 식으로 되게 설명을 해 주셔서 시간이 많았으면 좀 그래.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Solutions"
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    {
      "start": 2595.14,
      "end": 2600.56,
      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "I'd like to do that, but personally, I'm interested in the rock side.",
      "utterance_type": "Naming Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그러고 싶은데서 개인적으로는 저 락 쪽은 개인적으로 관심이 있어가지고",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Proactivity"
    },
    {
      "start": 2600.56,
      "end": 2604.26,
      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "I'll ask the professor after class tomorrow.",
      "utterance_type": "Proactivity",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 제가 내일 한번 교수님 수업 끝나고",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Proactivity"
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      "start": 2604.26,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "I'll ask once myself.",
      "utterance_type": "Proactivity",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 제가 개인적으로 한번 여쭤볼게요.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Proactivity"
    },
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      "text": "I do think it's a good topic,",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그러니까 좋은 주제라고 생각은 하긴 하거든요.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Cooperation"
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    {
      "start": 2610.76,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "It's also a good topic,",
      "utterance_type": "Cooperation",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 좋은 주제이기도 하고",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Cooperation"
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    {
      "start": 2612.26,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "But the thing is, now...",
      "utterance_type": "Naming Problems",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 근데 이거를 이제",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Naming Problems"
    },
    {
      "start": 2615.1,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "the fact that we,",
      "utterance_type": "Other / Neutral",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 문제는 저희가",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Other / Neutral"
    },
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      "start": 2616,
      "end": 2621.34,
      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "As for how we can improve it, I think maybe you could mention that at some point.",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 어떻게 개선할 수 있을지 그거는 아마 여쩌보면 한번 말씀해주시지 않을까",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Solutions"
    },
    {
      "start": 2621.34,
      "end": 2629.08,
      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "So, there’s probably a paper you’re already familiar with, and if you point out these parts to us, I think we should improve them.",
      "utterance_type": "Structuring",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그니까 아마 알고 계시는 페이퍼가 있는데 이런 부분을 알려주시면서 개선해야 할 것 같아요.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Proactivity"
    },
    {
      "start": 2629.08,
      "end": 2632.96,
      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "But we really need to decide quickly.",
      "utterance_type": "Structuring",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 근데 진짜 빨리 정해야 하는데.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Structuring"
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    {
      "start": 2632.96,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "Right now, we're completely overwhelmed.",
      "utterance_type": "Naming Problems",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 일단 저희가 굉장히 정신이 없습니다.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Naming Problems"
    },
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      "start": 2637.64,
      "end": 2640.52,
      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "We need to decide by this week.",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 이번 주 내에는 정해야 해.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Structuring"
    },
    {
      "start": 2640.52,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "If we do it within this week, it's usually considered an incident or accident.",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 이번 주 내로 보통 하면 사건 사고라고 생각해요.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
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      "start": 2646.08,
      "end": 2647.76,
      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "Yeah, it really is an accident.",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그렇죠, 사고죠 진짜.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Active listening"
    },
    {
      "start": 2647.76,
      "end": 2653.26,
      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "Well, if we can’t decide, then I’ll...",
      "utterance_type": "Proactivity",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "뭐 못 정하면 저는",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Proactivity"
    },
    {
      "start": 2653.26,
      "end": 2656.58,
      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "The professor didn't explicitly say it wasn't allowed",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 교수님도 안된다고는 안 하셨어요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 2656.58,
      "end": 2658.42,
      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "It just seems boring",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그냥 재미없어 보인다",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Solutions"
    },
    {
      "start": 2658.42,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "Things like it's not interesting, stuff like that",
      "utterance_type": "Social / Humor",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 흥미롭진 않다 뭐 이런 거여서",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Solutions"
    },
    {
      "start": 2660.76,
      "end": 2664.14,
      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "I want to try doing everything I can as much as possible.",
      "utterance_type": "Proactivity",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 할 수 있는 거는 최대한 해보고 싶어서",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Proactivity"
    },
    {
      "start": 2664.14,
      "end": 2668.98,
      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "Actually, the topic is important.",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 사실 주제가 중요하게",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
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      "text": "I kind of have a small hope that if I visit the professor often they might give me a good grade",
      "utterance_type": "Social / Humor",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 저는 살짝 교수님 자주 찾아가면 성적 잘 주시지 않을까 하는 어떤 작은 믿음을 갖고 있긴 하거든요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Social / Humor"
    },
    {
      "start": 2675.06,
      "end": 2678.74,
      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "But they did seem a bit really happy back then",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 근데 약간 좀 되게 그때 기뻐 보이시긴 했어요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 2678.74,
      "end": 2684.06,
      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "Even though they were overwhelmed, they had been worrying a lot about the club thing",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "정신 없는 와중에도 학회 그거 때문에 고민 많으셨는데",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 2684.06,
      "end": 2688.26,
      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "Since we suddenly showed interest in it",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 갑자기 관심을 저희가 드리니까",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 2688.26,
      "end": 2690.62,
      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "So they started talking to us a lot, it seems",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 좀 마구마구 얘기를 해주시는 건가 봐요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
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      "start": 2690.62,
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      "text": "The kid just typed it into the search bar for fun, and Prof. Jamie came up, so they laughed.",
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      "text": "But this side is really kind of...",
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      "korean_text": " 근데 요쪽이 되게 좀",
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      "korean_text": " 근데 요쪽이 되게 좀 ㅎㅎㅎㅎㅎ 근데 하는 사람만 하는 분야지 않을까 싶긴 해요",
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      "text": "So what you mentioned back then was",
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      "korean_text": " 그니까 그때 말씀하셨던 게",
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      "text": "search-based, right?",
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      "korean_text": "서치 베이스드요?",
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      "text": "Yes",
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      "korean_text": " 네",
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      "text": "There's actually really no money in this side, right?",
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      "korean_text": " 돈 되는 게 사실 없잖아요 요쪽",
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      "text": "Really? SE wasn't profitable?",
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      "korean_text": " 그런가요? SE 돈 되는 거 아니었어요?",
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      "text": "Is SE like that?",
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      "korean_text": " SE가 그런가?",
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      "text": "Ah, well, Nero... So, even within SE, it's a relatively small subfield.",
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      "korean_text": " 아 좀 네로... 그러니까 SE 안에서도 좀 작은 분야여서",
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      "text": "This is definitely",
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      "korean_text": " 이게 확실히",
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      "text": "The professor seems a bit... Prof. Jamie doesn’t seem like he’d particularly like things being used commercially.",
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      "korean_text": " 그거를 교수님은 좀 약간... Jamie 교수는 상업적으로 이용되는 걸 별로 좋아하실 것 같지는 않은 그런 느낌인데",
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      "text": "It's somewhat diverse, like evidence-based software engineering and so on.",
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      "korean_text": " 약간 이게 또 에비던스 베이스드 소프트웨어 엔지니어링 뭐 그런 식으로 해서 다양하게 있어서",
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      "text": "The research is varied.",
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      "korean_text": " 연구가 다양합니다",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "text": "You mentioned wanting to try lock repair.",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 아무튼 락 리페어 해보고 싶으시다고 하셨던 거고",
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "Anyone here who has something they'd like to do?",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 말씀하신 하고 싶은 거 있으신 분?",
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      "text": "I don't have any ideas right now.",
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      "korean_text": " 저는 지금 아무 생각이 없어요.",
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      "text": "Then... Something specific came up from the diffusion side, a thing called \"Sneaky prompt\" from about two years ago, where the example given was entering \"dog,\" so it said \"a dog playing in a field,\" but it gave the impression of a cat appearing, originally it's supposed to be not safe for work, for example, using an AI model to generate weird memes,",
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      "korean_text": " 그러면은... 디퓨전 쪽에서 구체적으로 나온 건긴 한데 Sneaky prompt라고 한 2년 전에 나온 건가 하는데 거기서 예를 든 거는 개라고 입력했으니까 풀밭에서 놀고 있는 개라고 했었는데 고양이가 나오는 그런 느낌으로 원래는 not safe for work라고 하잖아요 예를 들어 인공지능 모델을 이용해서 이상한 짤 뽑고 하는 거",
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      "text": "Something that should be blocked as much as possible when generated, but by just changing a few words exactly...",
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      "text": "It's possible to make something like that appear",
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      "korean_text": " 그런 게 나오게 할 수가 있어요",
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      "text": "Now, maybe we can search for that one word as a search base.",
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      "text": "That's how it felt",
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      "text": "Because originally, in the paper, it said the following It felt like using GA might achieve a similar effect",
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      "korean_text": " 왜냐면 이게 원래 논문에서는 아래를 썼었는데 GA를 사용해도 아마 비슷한 효과를 할 수 있지 않을까 이런 느낌으로",
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      "text": "I thought this topic might be suitable for a lighter approach",
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      "korean_text": " 얘는 좀 가볍게 접근해볼 만한 그런 주제인 것 같아가지고",
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      "text": "But I thought it was kind of blocking it from even getting into the model itself.",
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      "text": "But is there a mechanism inside the model that blocks it?",
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      "text": "Yes, that also exists",
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      "korean_text": " 네 그것도 있어요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "Oh really?",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
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      "korean_text": " 아 진짜요?",
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      "text": "There's also been quite a bit of research on that matter.",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그거 관련해서도 연구가 좀 많이 되는 게",
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      "text": "Some people even suggested just cutting off and covering up the entire space related to it.",
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      "korean_text": " 아예 그냥 그쪽 관련 스페이스를 잘라버려가지고 덮어버리자라는 의견도 있었고",
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      "text": "I mean... If we're going to do it, how big a model do we need?",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그니까... 하려면 어느정도 큰 거 써야 돼요? 모델을?",
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      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "Like just a 1.5GB Stable Diffusion model?",
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      "korean_text": " 아 모델만 스테이블 디퓨전 1.5기가짜리 한 그런거?",
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "Do they block those too?",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 걔네도 막아놔요?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "Yes",
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      "korean_text": " 네",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Active listening"
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      "text": "What about those?",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그런 것들은?",
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      "text": "I mean, it would be best if we didn't train them at all from the start, but it's not something that works just like that.",
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      "korean_text": "그러니까 애초에 훈련을 안 시키면 좋긴 하겠지만 이게 말처럼 되는 게 아니다 보니까",
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      "text": "How do you check all those images?",
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      "korean_text": " 수많은 이미지를 어떻게 다 검사하고",
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      "text": "Especially now, you know, there are those protected things—like stuff with blood coming out and that sort of thing. In that area, now...",
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      "korean_text": " 특히나 이제 보호한 그런 거 있잖아요 막 피나오고 그런 거 그런 쪽은 이제",
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      "text": "It's a bit awkward not to include it, but if we exclude it entirely, things like milk spills might get wrongly blocked, so we won't actively block it at all",
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      "korean_text": "  안 넣기엔 좀 그렇고 그렇다고 아예 없으면 우유 흘린 거 그런 것도 잘못하다 막히니까 아예 액티브하게 막지는 않을 텐데",
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      "text": "Anyway, the rules of that weird prompt-finding contest are kind of like that.",
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      "korean_text": " 어쨌든 그런 이상한 프롬프트 찾기 대회의 법은 그런 느낌이죠",
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      "text": "Since they're attacking, I did look it up, but I can't recall now",
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      "korean_text": " 공격하니까 저도 찾아본 게 있는데 생각이 안 나요",
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      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "Ah.. Yes",
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      "korean_text": "  아.. 네",
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      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "Ah..",
      "utterance_type": "Other / Neutral",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 아..",
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      "text": "So this is... ah, yes, SQL injection, ah, search-based.",
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      "korean_text": " 그니까 이  아.. 네 SQL injection을 아 서치 베이스로",
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      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "Ah That's right",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 아 그렇죠",
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      "text": "Now, unlike before If we do it rule-based Stuff like that Can be breached Quite easily",
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      "korean_text": " 옛날처럼 이제 규칙 기반으로 하면 그런 거 뚫기는 상당히 쉬우니까",
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "Yes",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
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      "korean_text": " 네",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Active listening"
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      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "Sleep",
      "utterance_type": "Other / Neutral",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 잠",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Other / Neutral"
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "Just a moment",
      "utterance_type": "Structuring",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 잠시만요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Other / Neutral"
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "Yesterday in the club The thing we did Is similar to this",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 어제 동아리에서 했었던 거랑 비슷하게 가는데",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "Oh, I see",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 아 그래요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Active listening"
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      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "Just a moment",
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      "korean_text": " 잠시만요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Structuring"
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "Ah... was this what it was?",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 아.. 이게 그거였나요?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Active listening"
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      "text": "Anyway, but this case here is indeed an SQL injection",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 하여튼 근데 여기 사례는 SQL injection이긴 한데",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "It might be fun to do SE to find security vulnerabilities, you know, vulnerabilities.",
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      "korean_text": "이렇게 보안 취약점, 그러니까 vulnerability찾는 거를 SE로 해도 재밌을 것 같아요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Naming Solutions"
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      "start": 2929.54,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "So you know that well already, right?",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그러니까 또 잘 알고 계시는 거잖아요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Active listening"
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "My former teammate, I mean, as I mentioned before, it was really a long time ago, though.",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 전 팀원분께서, 그니까 전에도 말씀드렸듯이 진짜 옛날이긴한데",
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "The seniors I'm familiar with originally went toward the security fuzzer side, and we could ask that person,",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 제 알고 계신 선배님들도 애초에 그런 쪽으로 시크리티 퍼저쪽으로 가시기도 했었고 그런 쪽으로 해서 그 분한테 여쭤보면 되긴 하는데",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "start": 2950.1,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "Was there only one person left? Were there three people?",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 문제는 한 분밖에 남으신 한 분이 3분이었나?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "start": 2951.98,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "There'll be about three people, but I can only ask one of them",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 3분 정도 있을 건데 한 분한테는 여쭐 수 있거든요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "start": 2955.62,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "So if you're doing something, I think I could get a sense of how you did it",
      "utterance_type": "Proactivity",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그래서 혹시 뭐 하신다면 제가 어떻게 하셨는지 한번 받아볼 수 있을 것 같아요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Proactivity"
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    {
      "start": 2960.16,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "How do you do it, stuff like that",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 어떻게 하시는지 이런 거",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "start": 2961.88,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "But it's an interesting topic, definitely a really interesting topic.",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 근데 재밌는, 충분히 사실 재밌는 주제는 맞습니다",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Cooperation"
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "But I'm not sure if Professor is particularly interested in security",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 근데 교수님은 약간 시큐리티에 재미가 있는지는 잘 모르겠어요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Problems"
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    {
      "start": 2973.7,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "They might be interested.",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 관심 있을 수 있잖아요.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Solutions"
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      "start": 2975.18,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "Maybe no one else has worked for this as the graduate students",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 아무도 원생 안 해줬을 수도 있잖아요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Solutions"
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      "start": 2977.66,
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      "text": "For Professor Kendall or others like him, security is something they naturally do.",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "Kendall교수님이나 다른 분 같은 경우엔 당연하게 시큐니티라는 걸 좀 하는데",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "start": 2983.94,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "What is it?",
      "utterance_type": "Other / Neutral",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 뭐지?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Active listening"
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    {
      "start": 2985.68,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "Ah, just a moment",
      "utterance_type": "Other / Neutral",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 아 잠시만",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Other / Neutral"
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "Actually, in a way Fault localization, Professor, you also work on test case generation coverage and such",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 사실 어떻게 보면 Fault localization, 교수님이 테스트 케이스 제너레이션 커버리지 이런 쪽도",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "start": 3000.68,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "Actually, in a way It's different, but if you look closely, it could be considered a vulnerability, right? As a vulnerability",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 사실은 어떻게 보면 다르지만 잘 보면 취약점이라고 볼 수는 있잖아요 취약점으로",
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      "text": "The professor says SE itself is closer to maintenance and such aspects",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 교수님이 SE 자체가 유지보수 같은 그런 쪽에 가까운 건데",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "start": 3025.3,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "You might like that kind of thing, don't you? Like or dislike",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 약간 그런 쪽 좋아하실 것 같은데요? 좋아한다 싫어한다",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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    {
      "start": 3030.6,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "It is indeed an interesting topic",
      "utterance_type": "Cooperation",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 재밌는 주제는 맞습니다",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Cooperation"
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      "start": 3032.52,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "I also think it's an interesting topic",
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      "korean_text": "저도 재밌는주제라고 생각해요",
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      "start": 3034.08,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "Rather, I don't really dig into the professor that much.",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 오히려 교수님을 그렇게 파지 않는데",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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    {
      "start": 3036.26,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "If we can satisfy the professors, wouldn't that be extra credit?",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 교수님들 만족시킬 수 있으면 추가 점수이지 않을까요?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Solutions"
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      "start": 3040.22,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "Oh, and by the way, isn't there a team presenting vulnerability during my presentation?",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "아 그리고 이거 근데 제가 발표 때 vulnerability 한 팀도 있지 않아요?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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    {
      "start": 3045.67,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "Or am I mistaken?",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 아닌가?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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    {
      "start": 3046.74,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "Oh yes, there's one team.",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "아 네 한 팀 있어요.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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    {
      "start": 3048.19,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "So rather than vulnerability,",
      "utterance_type": "Other / Neutral",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그러니까 vulnerability 보다는",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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    {
      "start": 3049.88,
      "end": 3051.91,
      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "How did that team do?",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그 팀은 어떻게 했죠?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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    {
      "start": 3051.91,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "I can't remember",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 기억이 안 나서",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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    {
      "start": 3053.46,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "I do have a vulnerability, but let me check quickly",
      "utterance_type": "Proactivity",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "제가 vulnerability가 맞긴 한데 잠시만 찾아볼게요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Proactivity"
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    {
      "start": 3057.06,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "I can't remember what kind of vulnerability it was",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "무슨 vulnerability인지는 저도 기억이 안나서",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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    {
      "start": 3060.04,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "It felt like I was looking through the code base",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 코드 베이스 찾아보는 느낌이었다고 생각했습니다",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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    {
      "start": 3064.02,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "In that direction?",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그런 쪽으로?",
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "Kind of, I mean",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 약간 그니까",
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      "start": 3067.58,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "Oh, so vulnerability in the code",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "아 그러니까 코드에 vulnerability",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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    {
      "start": 3069.5,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "There's a database.",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 데이터베이스가 있어요.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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    {
      "start": 3071.84,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "Per code, like CV, and so on",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 코드 별로. CV 이런 식으로 하고",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "start": 3075.3,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "It seemed to be assigned based on score access,",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "점수 접근 때문에 매겨져 있었던 것 같은데",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "start": 3077.1,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "just a moment please.",
      "utterance_type": "Structuring",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 잠시만요.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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    {
      "start": 3080.9,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "Ah, it's a bit different, but it seems like we did something similar to refactoring.",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "아 약간 다르긴 한데 리펙토링이랑 비슷하게 했던 것 같아요.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "start": 3088.8,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "Wasn't it more like using some tool to find the vulnerability score and then changing that to improve it?",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "어떤 툴로 vulnerability 점수를 찾고 그걸 바꿔서 개선한다는 느낌은 아니었나요?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "start": 3099.02,
      "end": 3105.3,
      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "Ah... why... Where did it go...",
      "utterance_type": "Other / Neutral",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 아.. 왜.. 어디갔냐..",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Other / Neutral"
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    {
      "start": 3105.3,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "I did more of it before...",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "제가 더 많이 했었는데..",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 3108.74,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "It's a bit different, though.",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 약간 다르긴 하네요.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "start": 3111.02,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "A bit gm, here gm How should we combine these metrics in various ways so that we can actually derive a meaningful formula?",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 약간 gm, 여기 gm 이 지표들을 여러개씩 어떻게 조합을 해야지 실질적으로 저희가 식을 얻어낼 수 있을까",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Naming Solutions"
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      "start": 3145.38,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "Even if there are many metrics, which ones are actually meaningful?",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "여러가지 매트릭이 있다고 해도 의미가 있는 매트릭이 뭐가 있는가요?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Solutions"
    },
    {
      "start": 3150.14,
      "end": 3157.22,
      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "But honestly, back then, as the professor said, even a single metric could have opposing characteristics.",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Problems",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 근데 솔직히 말하면 그때 교수님이 말했던 것처럼 하나의 매틱이라도 상반된 그 강형을 가질 수 있으니까",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Problems"
    },
    {
      "start": 3157.22,
      "end": 3163.12,
      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "We wanted to try combining several metrics to create a delicious metric",
      "utterance_type": "Naming Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "좀 메트릭을 여러개를 조합해서 맛있는 메트릭 만들어보자 그런 느낌이었어요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Naming Solutions"
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      "start": 3163.12,
      "end": 3168.02,
      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "Morgan, is there any field worth looking into on the security side?",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "Morgan 혹시 보안 쪽에 해서 볼 만한 분야가 있을까요?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 3168.02,
      "end": 3168.78,
      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "SBSE?",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " sbse요?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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    {
      "start": 3168.78,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "Search-based?",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " search based?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 3170.74,
      "end": 3174.12,
      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "For now, things like fuzzing, as I mentioned earlier",
      "utterance_type": "Naming Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 일단은 전에 말했던 fuzzing이라던가",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "text": "Actually, if we really wanted to, fuzzing would be a prime example, because security is the kind of field where you just need to pry the lid open to do something.",
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      "korean_text": "사실 정말 하려면 fuzzing이 대표적인 예시일 거고요 왜냐하면 보안들은 뚜껑을 따기만 하면 되는 분야라는 말이에요 뭔가를 해서",
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      "text": "For example, with vulnerabilities As I said earlier, just something like SQL rejection",
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      "korean_text": " 예를 들어서 취약점이라고 하면 아까 말했듯이 그냥 SQL rejection이라든가",
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      "text": "Buffer overflow is the same.",
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      "korean_text": "버퍼오버플로우도 그렇죠.",
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      "text": "But in the end, fuzzing is a representative example, because it has to be done by combining various things.",
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      "korean_text": " 근데 결국에는 어떤 퍼징이 대표적인 예시라서 왜냐하면 일 수밖에 없는 게 결국엔 여러 가지를 조합을 해서",
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      "text": "to trigger that buffer overflow or otherwise, ultimately that ROP called Return Oriented Programming, so it's similar to buffer overflow, but in that way, it's a bit of a combination, so it ends up being like that",
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      "korean_text": " 그 버퍼 오버프로우를 일으킨다던가 아니면 결국에는 그 ROP Return Oriented Programming이라고 해서 그것도 버퍼 오버 플로우와 비슷한 건데 그런 식으로 약간 조합한다던건 그렇게 되는데",
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      "text": "So this is how an attack is first carried out, in a way.",
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      "korean_text": " 이게 그런 식으로 일단 뭔가 공격을 해서",
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      "text": "Ultimately, are we aiming to use that fuzzer and say, “We did it, we cracked it”?",
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      "korean_text": " 결국에는 그 fuzzer를 해서 저희가 우리가 해냈어 이걸 땄어 라고 하는 것을 목표로 할 거냐",
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      "text": "Or are there many other ways we could approach it?",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 아니면 좀 다른 방식으로 접근한 방법도 많을 텐데",
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      "text": "I've been distanced from security for over three years now.",
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      "korean_text": "제가 보안이랑 거리 둔치가 거의 3년이 넘어서",
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      "text": "So, the main thing I'm thinking about right now is this.",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그러니까 대표적으로 생각하는 게 지금 그거고요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Structuring"
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "Other than that,",
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      "korean_text": " 그거 말고는",
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      "text": "But this involves buffer overflow and SQL injection,",
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      "korean_text": "근데 이게 버퍼오버플로우랑 sql 인젝션을",
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      "text": "Of course, we need to do fuzzing,",
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      "korean_text": " 당연히 fuzzing을 해야 되는 거는",
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      "text": "that's correct.",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
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      "korean_text": " 맞는데",
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      "text": "Isn't fuzzing not the main goal, though?",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "퍼저가 메인 목표는 아니지 않나요?",
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      "text": "So, because this SQL injection thing also",
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      "korean_text": " 그니까 왜냐하면 이 SQL injection이라는 것도",
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      "text": "I was talking about that kind of approach, where you define a fitness and then mutate things to fit it and find it that way.",
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      "korean_text": " 어떤 피트니스를 두고 거기에 맞게 mutation을 해서 찾아내는 그런 쪽으로 얘기했는데",
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      "text": "That’s also true, but in general security, if you do that, there are cases where, when you go to a conference, people review it with attacks that are extremely well crafted.",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그것도 맞는 말이긴 한데 결국엔 보통 보안에서는 그거 하면 학회 갔을 때 공격을 엄청나게 잘 짠 공격으로 리뷰를 하는 케이스도 있고요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Knowledge Transfer"
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "Yes, right, like Professor, or something like automated techniques, that sort of thing as well.",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 예 바로 교수님 같은 아니면 아 그 말 됐어 로 자동화 된 기법이 라던가 그런 식으로 하는 것도 있구요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "start": 3284.4,
      "end": 3286.76,
      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "But",
      "utterance_type": "Other / Neutral",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 근데",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Other / Neutral"
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "Ultimately, what we're doing is, well, in the end, stopping people from opening the lid, but it's also important for us to find things efficiently.",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 결국 그까 결국에는 찾는 것은 근데 이제 원에 있어서는 결국 뚜껑을 따는게 중지한 거지 저희가 효율적으로 찾는 것도 중요하긴 하지만",
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      "text": "Ultimately, the priority is finding and reporting vulnerabilities, isn't it?",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 결국에는 취약점을 찾아서 보고하는게 먼저인거잖아요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "start": 3302.14,
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      "text": "The existence of vulnerabilities is what matters",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 취약점들의 존재가 중요한 거지",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "text": "I don't think the importance of the buzzer for quickly identifying vulnerabilities is the point here",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 취약 점을 빠르게 찾는 버저의 중요성이 아니라고 생각하거든요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Solutions"
    },
    {
      "start": 3309.22,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "Report that to the CV...",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그 cv에 보고를...",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Other / Neutral"
    },
    {
      "start": 3311.52,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "Well, I guess I need to think about this a bit more myself",
      "utterance_type": "Proactivity",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 뭐 근데 이거는 좀 고민을 해 봐야겠네요 저도",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Proactivity"
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      "start": 3313.9,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "I mean, that thing, uh...",
      "utterance_type": "Other / Neutral",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "제가 그거를 뭐",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Other / Neutral"
    },
    {
      "start": 3327.52,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "Yes.",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 네.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Active listening"
    },
    {
      "start": 3328.52,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "I'll ask about this tomorrow once.",
      "utterance_type": "Proactivity",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 이것도 제가 내일 한번 여쭤볼게요.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Proactivity"
    },
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      "start": 3333.52,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "It'll probably be an interesting topic.",
      "utterance_type": "Social / Humor",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 재미있는 주제이긴 할 거예요.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Social / Humor"
    },
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      "start": 3336.2,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "In the area of interest.",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 관심 있는 쪽에서.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Other / Neutral"
    },
    {
      "start": 3338.78,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "Not a full purge, but should I look into it and draft something?",
      "utterance_type": "Proactivity",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "퍼징까지는 아니고 제가 찾아서 작성을 해볼까요.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Proactivity"
    },
    {
      "start": 3342.14,
      "end": 3343.14,
      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "If that's the case.",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 어 그러시면.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Active listening"
    },
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      "start": 3343.14,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "I'll look into it a bit.",
      "utterance_type": "Proactivity",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 제가 좀 찾아볼게요.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Proactivity"
    },
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      "start": 3345.14,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "I'm not sure if I'll have time once I come in.",
      "utterance_type": "Task/Process Negative",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 이건 들어와서 시간이 될지 모르겠는데.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Task/Process Negative"
    },
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      "start": 3349.46,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "I think I need to check on it tomorrow and then write an email.",
      "utterance_type": "Proactivity",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 내일 좀 여쭉 보고 메일을 써야 될 거 같은데.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Proactivity"
    },
    {
      "start": 3352.8,
      "end": 3356.32,
      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "When will you send the email?",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 메일은 언제 보내실 건가요.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
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      "start": 3356.32,
      "end": 3358.92,
      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "It was because of that order, that’s why it was like that.",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Problems",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그 순서 때문에 그거 때문이었어요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 3358.92,
      "end": 3359.66,
      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "Hmm?",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 네?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Active listening"
    },
    {
      "start": 3359.66,
      "end": 3362.98,
      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "Is there just something simple you'd like to ask?",
      "utterance_type": "Structuring",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그냥 뭔가 간단히 물어보고 싶으신 게 있는 거예요?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Structuring"
    },
    {
      "start": 3362.98,
      "end": 3365.16,
      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "Or perhaps a bit more specifically?",
      "utterance_type": "Structuring",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 아니면 좀 더 구체적으로",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Structuring"
    },
    {
      "start": 3365.16,
      "end": 3366.88,
      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "Since this is the area I'm interested in,",
      "utterance_type": "Proactivity",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 이게 제가 관심있는 쪽이다 보니까",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 3366.88,
      "end": 3367.82,
      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "Yes yes",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 네네",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Active listening"
    },
    {
      "start": 3367.82,
      "end": 3369.94,
      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "So what",
      "utterance_type": "Other / Neutral",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그래서 뭐",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Other / Neutral"
    },
    {
      "start": 3369.94,
      "end": 3373.72,
      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "It's better to ask the person you're interested in anyway. Even if everyone can go, now...",
      "utterance_type": "Naming Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 관심 있는 사람이 그래도 물어보는 게 낫잖아요 다 가면 돼도 이제",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Naming Solutions"
    },
    {
      "start": 3373.72,
      "end": 3376.52,
      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "Time-wise, and kind of, you know",
      "utterance_type": "Other / Neutral",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 시간도 그렇고 약간 그러니까",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Other / Neutral"
    },
    {
      "start": 3376.52,
      "end": 3379.64,
      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "Just ask briefly It's fine, so",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 간단히 물어 보고 괜찮으니까",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Structuring"
    },
    {
      "start": 3379.64,
      "end": 3385.43,
      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "For reaction, if the professor's reaction seems okay.",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 반응은 교수님 반응이 괜찮은데",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Solutions"
    },
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      "start": 3385.43,
      "end": 3391.6,
      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "I think it might be good to see it. Or you could just write it like this in an email, and that should be fine too.",
      "utterance_type": "Naming Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 뭐 보고 하면 좋지 않을까 싶어요. 아니면 그냥 메일로 이렇게 써 보셔도 괜찮을 것 같고요.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Naming Solutions"
    },
    {
      "start": 3391.6,
      "end": 3394.1,
      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "Something like...",
      "utterance_type": "Other / Neutral",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 뭔가 좀...",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Active listening"
    },
    {
      "start": 3394.1,
      "end": 3402.22,
      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "Since you're going to see the professor anyway, it's better to just gather everything at once and go, or if you're only going to ask one thing, I guess you'll ask quickly tomorrow, so I was thinking",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 어차피 교수님 보러 갈 거면 그냥 한 번에 싹 모아서 가는 게 낫고, 아니면 하나만 여쭤볼 거면 내일 빠르게 물어보실 건가 싶어서 저는",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Solutions"
    },
    {
      "start": 3402.22,
      "end": 3404.63,
      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "Since faster is better, I think now is the time.",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 빠르면 빠를수록 약간 좋다고 생각해서 지금.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Structuring"
    },
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      "text": "Time is also important now, so let's get the details sorted out once.",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 시간도 이제 중요하고 그러니까 한번 디테일을 잡고",
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      "text": "Since we do need to nail down the details before going, you mean you want to bring up the details once in the middle of talking with the professor, right?",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 디테일을 잡아서 가야 되긴 하니까 디테일를 잡는 걸 교수님 중간에 한번 쓰고 싶다는 거죠?",
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      "text": "Right now, it's a bit vague, especially regarding concurrency and security topics.",
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      "korean_text": "지금은 약간 좀 concurrency도 그렇고 이런 보안 쪽도 그렇고 두루뭉술한 주제잖아요.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Naming Problems"
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      "text": "It's just a general theme, so I'm wondering if you have any suggestions for a specific topic to explore.",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 테마만 접혀 있는 거고 그래서 이런 쪽으로 해보고 싶은데 어떤 주제가 있을까 해서 여쭤보고",
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      "text": "If we go in this direction, I think it should be fine. We can look into that side a bit and do it like this—would that be okay?",
      "utterance_type": "Proactivity",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 이런 쪽을 가면 괜찮을 것 같은데 하면 그쪽으로 좀 찾아보고 이렇게 이렇게 할 건데 괜찮을까요?",
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      "start": 3434.9,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "I think it would be better to get confirmation like this.",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "이렇게 컨펌을 받는게 좋지 않을까 싶어서",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Naming Solutions"
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      "text": "Just need to organize it a bit more.",
      "utterance_type": "Structuring",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 조금 정리만 더 해보면",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Structuring"
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      "start": 3441.28,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "Let's clean up the organization neatly.",
      "utterance_type": "Structuring",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 깔끔하게 정리를 해보죠",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Proactivity"
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      "start": 3443.74,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "Ah, I mean, really...",
      "utterance_type": "Other / Neutral",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 아 그냥 진짜",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Other / Neutral"
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      "start": 3445.52,
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      "text": "do just security, but in the end",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " security 딸깍 했는데 결국은",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "start": 3447.62,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "Done?",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "끝?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
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      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "Yes?",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 네?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Active listening"
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      "start": 3449.58,
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      "text": "Eventually, we found it",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 결국에는 찾기",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "text": "So when attacking",
      "utterance_type": "Other / Neutral",
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      "korean_text": " 그러니까 공격할 때",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Other / Neutral"
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      "start": 3454.32,
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      "text": "Finding the attack method, or how to efficiently apply that patch. So we used security, security...",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 공격 방법을 찾는 것 또는 그 패치를 어떻게 효율적으로 할 것인가 그러니까 저희가 보안 security로",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "We did paging 2.",
      "utterance_type": "Other / Neutral",
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      "korean_text": "2 페이징을 한 거죠",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "I see",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 알겠어요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Active listening"
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      "text": "There should be code for it, how to make it more efficient further...",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 코드가 있을텐데 그걸 어떻게 효율적으로 더",
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      "text": "Patch is similar to what came up during the presentation.",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "패치는 발표 때 나왔던 그런 거랑 비슷하죠",
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "It's similar to that kind of thing, and as for finding things, it's the kind of method I mentioned earlier.",
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      "korean_text": " 그런 거란 비슷한 거고요 찾기는 제가 말씀드린 그런 방식인 거죠",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "start": 3477.68,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "Ultimately, finding vulnerabilities or fuzzing.",
      "utterance_type": "Naming Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "결국 취약점을 찾거나 퍼징하는 거랑",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Naming Solutions"
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      "text": "Ultimately, either repairing the vulnerability or",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 결국 또는 이제 취약점를 수리하는 거나",
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      "text": "Or just making attacks. When we create attacks, as I mentioned earlier, things like SQL injection—we kind of set them up and make them indiscriminately.",
      "utterance_type": "Knowledge Transfer",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 아니면 공격만 공격을 만들 때 아까 말했듯이 SQL injection 이라던가 그런거를 좀 저희가 설치, 무작정 만드는거고",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Knowledge Transfer"
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      "start": 3494.1,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "Search-based, efficiently.",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "서치 베이스드로 효율적으로",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Solutions"
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      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "Ah, I see.",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 아 그렇구나.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Active listening"
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      "start": 3497.92,
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      "text": "Or it's not just about injections; there are also XSS, and the attack techniques themselves are extremely diverse.",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 아니면 인젝션만 있는 것도 아니고 XSS 라던가 공격기법 자체가 엄청 다양하잖아요.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "start": 3505.1,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "When I was doing a bit of work on those things, I did that a little.",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그런 것들에 대해서 약간 했을때 뭐 좀 그거를 했고",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "Or, well, I heard there are also rules for traffic inspection, GPT-Facial.",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 아니면 뭐 트래픽 검사하는 룰에 대해서도 있다고 하긴 하더라구요 GPT-Facial",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "start": 3515.98,
      "end": 3519.26,
      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "But I looked it up once and organized it a bit",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 근데 한번 찾아보고 한번 정리해봤거든요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Proactivity"
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "Then, those injections and buffer overflows are really well-known, aren't they",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "그러면 그 인젝션이랑 버퍼 오버플로우는 되게 웰논이잖아요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "start": 3523.86,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "Yes",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 네",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Active listening"
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      "start": 3524.54,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "Yes, then, by any chance, among Morgan's lesser-known attack techniques...",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 네, 그럼 혹시 Morgan 덜 알려진 그런 공격기법 중에서",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "Do you have any techniques that you prefer for SE?",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " SE를 선호하는 기법 같은 거 있어요?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "start": 3535.18,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "Actually, I only really know those two.",
      "utterance_type": "Other / Neutral",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 사실 저는 그 두 개밖에 거의 몰라서",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Other / Neutral"
    },
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      "start": 3537.94,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "If you call it a technique, ultimately, it’s really this...",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 기법이라고 하면은 결국에는 사실 이게",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "start": 3541.94,
      "end": 3545.14,
      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "Well, it would be something complex, wouldn't it",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 결국에는 복잡한 기법이 되면 어떤 거냐겠죠",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Active listening"
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      "start": 3545.14,
      "end": 3548.11,
      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "Ultimately, this is sand...",
      "utterance_type": "Other / Neutral",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 결국에는 이게 샌드..",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
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      "start": 3548.11,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "In fact, there was a well-known example the professor introduced before.",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 사실 그 대표적인 예시가 예전에 그 교수님께서 소개해 주셨던 기법이 있었는데",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "start": 3556.02,
      "end": 3558.62,
      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "Which professor was it?",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 어느 교수님이 했죠?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
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      "start": 3558.62,
      "end": 3562.64,
      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "Hmm? Only the assigned professor knows, but anyway.",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 음? 본 담당, 담당 교수님만 아는데 아무튼",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "start": 3562.64,
      "end": 3565.54,
      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "It's not just one case, ultimately, it's various things, ultimately.",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 어떤 케이스가 아니라 결국에는 여러가지, 결국에는",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "start": 3565.54,
      "end": 3567.34,
      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "We combine various techniques.",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 여러가지 기법을 엮어요.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "start": 3567.34,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "It's not something that can be done with just one thing.",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 이게 단순히 하나 가지고 되는 게 아니라서",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Solutions"
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      "start": 3569.8,
      "end": 3573.38,
      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "For example, a return-oriented program, you know.",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 예를 들어서 리턴 오리엔트 프로그램이라고 해가지고",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
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      "start": 3573.38,
      "end": 3576.54,
      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "What it is, is that we have the binary segment, you know.",
      "utterance_type": "Knowledge Transfer",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "그는 어떤 거냐면 저희가 그 바이널 세그먼트 있지",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Knowledge Transfer"
    },
    {
      "start": 3576.54,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "If you've taken System Programming before, you've probably tried this once.",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 이거는 시프 들었으면 한번 해보셨을 건데",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 3578.88,
      "end": 3580.4,
      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "Oh yes, once.",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 아 네 한번",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Active listening"
    },
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      "start": 3581.34,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "Yes",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 네",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Active listening"
    },
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      "start": 3582.42,
      "end": 3584.38,
      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "You know that small segment, right",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그 작은 세그멘트 있잖아요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
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      "start": 3584.38,
      "end": 3587.34,
      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "Simply with just a buffer overflow, now we can",
      "utterance_type": "Other / Neutral",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 단순히 버퍼 버프로는 이제 저희가",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Other / Neutral"
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      "start": 3587.34,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "that side, now overwrite the code behind what we've covered so that we can execute shell code or things like that Actually, that's really easy",
      "utterance_type": "Knowledge Transfer",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그쪽에 그 이제 저희 덮어쓴 그 뒤에 있는 코드를 덮어 써서 셸 코드라던가 그런 걸 저희가 실행할 수 있게 해가지고 하면 되는데 사실 그건 되게 쉬운 게",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Knowledge Transfer"
    },
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      "start": 3598.2,
      "end": 3601.68,
      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "Uh, you’re not going to give me execution permission on the stack part?",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 어 너 나 스택 부분에 실햄 권한 안 둘 거야",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
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      "start": 3601.68,
      "end": 3604.92,
      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "You just make it so I can't execute this part, and that's it",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 너 이 부분 실행할 수 없어 이렇게 해버리면 되잖아요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Knowledge Transfer"
    },
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      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "That's right",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그렇죠",
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      "text": "Overwrite the code and don't run this code, once you do this",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "코드를 덮어쓰고 넌 이 코드 실행하지 마 이렇게 해버리면",
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "but in that case, we align the small fragments with the correct symbols in fact, it's all blocked",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 되는데 거기 같은 경우에는 그 작은 조각들을 저희가 기호 맞춰서 하는 건데 그것도 사실은 다 막힌단 말이에요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Knowledge Transfer"
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      "start": 3618.78,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "it's mostly blocked",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 웬만하면 막혔는데",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "I'll look up some attack techniques for you first",
      "utterance_type": "Proactivity",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 제가 그럼 일단 찾아놓을게요 공격 기법을 조금",
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      "text": "But I'm a bit concerned about whether we can use these search bases. Ultimately, if there's a specific binary, you need a suitable attack vector for that binary.",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Problems",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "쓸 수 있는 근데 이게 서치베이스들을 쓸 수 있을지가 좀 걱정인 게 결국 특정 바이너리가 있으면 그 바이너에",
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "You need a suitable means to carry out an attack, and I haven't really been doing hacking lately either.",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Problems",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "공격을 할 수 있는 타편이 있어야 공격할 수가 있어서, 제가 그리고 좀 해킹이랑은 거리둔지가 좀 됐습니다",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Solutions"
    },
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      "start": 3639.34,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "but now you probably know a bit better",
      "utterance_type": "Cooperation",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그래도 이제 그나마 이제 좀 잘 알고 계실 것 같아요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
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      "start": 3644.34,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "May I ask whether you're more interested in web or more interested in binaries?",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 혹시 그러면 웹에 관심이 많은지 아니면 바이너리 따시는 그런 쪽에 관심 많으신지 여쭤봐도 될까요?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "Which one do you think would be more fun for you?",
      "utterance_type": "Structuring",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 어느 쪽이 더 재밌으실 것 같은데요? ",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "You know, they call it \"Pwnable\" these days.",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그니까 서칭이 이제 펀어블이라고 하거든요.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "So, what was it again?",
      "utterance_type": "Structuring",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그러니까 그 뭐라고 하지?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "In CTF competitions, there are several categories we usually have, such as:",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " CTF에서 저희가 흔히 분야에 나올 때 여러가지가 있는데",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Knowledge Transfer"
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      "text": "Pwnable, Reverse Engineering, and Web Hacking, and also That one, and Cryptography—decrypting cryptography, mostly math-related The rest are more about Reverse Engineering, though it's less about reverse engineering per se",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 펀어플, 리버싱, 그리고 웹해킹, 그리고 그거 그리고 크립토, 크립토를 읽어내는 거, 수학쪽 거의 나머지가 이제 리버싱, 리버싱이라기보다",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
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      "start": 3679.7,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "and Forensics—these are the five main categories.",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 포렌식 이렇게 다섯 가지로 통하는데",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Structuring"
    },
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "So, are you planning to focus on binaries, or on web, like the injection techniques I mentioned earlier? That part is a little...",
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      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그러니까 바이너리에 집중을 하실 건지 아니면 웹에 좀 아까 말했던 인젝션에 집중에 집중하고 싶으신 건지 그 부분은 조금",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Structuring"
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      "start": 3689.54,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "I did some research, but of course I'm not familiar with everything",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 제가 찾아봤었는데도 제가 물론 다 안 익숙하긴 한데",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 3695.64,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "Hmm, something general—I actually don't think it matters much at this stage anyway",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 음 뭔가 범용적으로 저는 사실 지금 단계에서 아무래도 상관 없는데",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Task/Process Negative"
    },
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      "start": 3702.42,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "If we're going in that direction, web might be a bit better",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 방향적으로 할거면 웹이 좀 더 괜찮을 것 같고",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Naming Solutions"
    },
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "There are many web attack techniques themselves",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 웹 공격 기법 자체는 많아요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 3709.64,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "There should be some cases or examples, right?",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그게 좀 어떻게 사례 같은 것도 있을 거잖아요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 3715.42,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "There are web systems, for instance, with actually discovered security vulnerabilities",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "실제로 보안취약점이 발견된 버전이 있는 웹 같은 것도",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 3719.26,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "That should exist, right?",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 있을 거 잖아요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 3720.02,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "Then we might actually be able to test them",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그러면 저희가 실제로 테스팅 해 볼 수도 있을 것 같아요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Solutions"
    },
    {
      "start": 3723.18,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "In fact, binaries are also quite numerous",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 사실 뭐 바이너리도 사실 많긴 하죠",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 3726.1,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "I guess that's true",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 아 그렇긴 하겠네요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Active listening"
    },
    {
      "start": 3726.98,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "They're the same concept, after all",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 둘 다 동일한 개념이니까요",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 3729.76,
      "end": 3733.22,
      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "Since they're essentially the same, focusing on it is...",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 사실 동일해서 집중하는 거는",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Solutions"
    },
    {
      "start": 3733.22,
      "end": 3735.3,
      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "But I also looked into it.",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 근데 제가 찾아보기도 했",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 3735.3,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "Ultimately, what matters is that I'm the important one.",
      "utterance_type": "Social / Humor",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 결국에는 사실 제가 중요한 건데",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Social / Humor"
    },
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "Whether we can actually conduct the research",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 사실 저희가 연구할 수 있냐",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 3739.7,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "That's what's most crucial Because we have the database",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그게 제일 중요하거든요 왜냐면 데이터베이스가 있고",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 3742.46,
      "end": 3748.4,
      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "We need to be able to reproduce it, and we need to be able to report that we've been updated, but that, so...",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 저희가 재현할 수 있고 저희가 업데이트 되었다고 보고 할 수 있어야 되는데 그거 그러니까",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Linking Solutions"
    },
    {
      "start": 3748.4,
      "end": 3752.54,
      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "When we compared, it works to a certain extent We also need to look into things like this",
      "utterance_type": "Linking Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 아 저희가 비교했을 때 어느 정도 된다 이런 것도 찾아봐야 돼서",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 3752.54,
      "end": 3754.66,
      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "I'll find out by checking the dataset too",
      "utterance_type": "Proactivity",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": "그걸 데이터셋도 찾아봐도 알겠습니다",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Proactivity"
    },
    {
      "start": 3754.66,
      "end": 3757.46,
      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "For now",
      "utterance_type": "Other / Neutral",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 일단은",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Other / Neutral"
    },
    {
      "start": 3757.46,
      "end": 3762.1,
      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "So I've summarized the topics that have come up so far.",
      "utterance_type": "Structuring",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그래서 지금까지 나온 주제를 정리를 해봤는데요.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Structuring"
    },
    {
      "start": 3762.1,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "Overall, we'll go with one topic by this weekend.",
      "utterance_type": "Structuring",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 전체적으로는 이번주 주말까지 주제 하나로 정하는 걸로 하고",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Structuring"
    },
    {
      "start": 3769.48,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "I'll send the email on Wednesday.",
      "utterance_type": "Proactivity",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 메일을 수요일에 보낼게요.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Proactivity"
    },
    {
      "start": 3772.92,
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      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "So I want to send it with a bit more detail.",
      "utterance_type": "Proactivity",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그래서 조금 자세히 있어서 보내고 싶고",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Proactivity"
    },
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      "start": 3775.78,
      "end": 3777.88,
      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "But we can't do it on Thursday.",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 근데 저희가 목요일을 그걸 못해.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 3777.88,
      "end": 3780.32,
      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "The professor doesn't have class on Thursday",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 목요일날 교수님이 수업이 없어서",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 3780.32,
      "end": 3782.16,
      "speaker": "PERSON_B",
      "text": "Oh, yes, you're going to school.",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 아 네 학교에 가신다고",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Social / Humor"
    },
    {
      "start": 3782.16,
      "end": 3783.82,
      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "You said there's no class at school",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 학교에서 수업 없다고 하셔서",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 3783.82,
      "end": 3786.44,
      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "Since we'll meet on Tuesday, let's make it Tuesday as well.",
      "utterance_type": "Structuring",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 화요일 만나실 거 화요일도 해서",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Structuring"
    },
    {
      "start": 3786.44,
      "end": 3789.1,
      "speaker": "PERSON_C",
      "text": "Should we say it was sent on Wednesday because of that?",
      "utterance_type": "Structuring",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그걸 하셔서 수요일에 보낸 걸로 하는 걸까요?",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Structuring"
    },
    {
      "start": 3789.9,
      "end": 3792.42,
      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "Yes, so we're sending it on Wednesday, right?",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 네, 그래서 수요일로 보내는 거잖아요.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 3792.98,
      "end": 3794.98,
      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "Writing the email on Wednesday, Professor...",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 수요 일에 메일 쓰고 교수님 뭐..",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 3794.98,
      "end": 3798.9,
      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "So let's just submit it every day as much as possible so we can finish it.",
      "utterance_type": "Proactivity",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 그래서 그냥 최대한 매일 다 내서 끝낼 수 있게",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Structuring"
    },
    {
      "start": 3798.9,
      "end": 3801.1,
      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "This seems boring, or something like that, a bit...",
      "utterance_type": "Task/Process Negative",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 이건 재미없어 보인다 이라든가 좀",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Task/Process Negative"
    },
    {
      "start": 3801.1,
      "end": 3806.74,
      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "I think we should write it in detail so it can be cut off cleanly each day and send it.",
      "utterance_type": "Naming Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 매일 단에서 끊을 수 있게 자세히 써서 보내야 될 것 같고",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Naming Solutions"
    },
    {
      "start": 3806.74,
      "end": 3808.96,
      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "It's the original paper",
      "utterance_type": "Giving Information",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 원본 논문이라",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Giving Information"
    },
    {
      "start": 3808.96,
      "end": 3813.7,
      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "I think it should include points that could be approached differently",
      "utterance_type": "Naming Solutions",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 제 생각에는 다르게 해볼 만한 점까지 있어야 할 것 같아요.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Naming Solutions"
    },
    {
      "start": 3816.44,
      "end": 3823.2,
      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "We need to organize it to this level by Wednesday",
      "utterance_type": "Structuring",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 이 정도 단으로 수요일까지 정리를 해야 될 것 같은데",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Structuring"
    },
    {
      "start": 3823.2,
      "end": 3829.98,
      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "We might need to look up a bit more papers ourselves",
      "utterance_type": "Naming Problems",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 각자 논문 조금 더 찾아봐야 될 수도 있고",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Naming Solutions"
    },
    {
      "start": 3829.98,
      "end": 3836.9,
      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "We might also ask the professor a few questions, I think. Let's try developing it again from Wednesday to Tuesday.",
      "utterance_type": "Proactivity",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 교수님한테 조금 물어볼 수도 있고 그럴 것 같은데 수요일부터 화요일에 다시 한번",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Proactivity"
    },
    {
      "start": 3836.9,
      "end": 3837.98,
      "speaker": "PERSON_A",
      "text": "Let's develop it once more.",
      "utterance_type": "Other / Neutral",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 디벨롭을 해보시죠",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Active listening"
    },
    {
      "start": 3837.98,
      "end": 3839.56,
      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "Understood",
      "utterance_type": "Active listening",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 알겠습니다",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Active listening"
    },
    {
      "start": 3839.56,
      "end": 3841.56,
      "speaker": "PERSON_D",
      "text": "Thank you.",
      "utterance_type": "Cooperation",
      "annotation_source": "gemma",
      "korean_text": " 감사합니다.",
      "qwen_utterance_type": "Cooperation"
    }
  ]
}